Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer’s SIOA Listed As Hate Group

Anti-Muslim bloggers make the annual hate group roundup
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Congratulations to Pamela “Shrieking Harpy” Geller and Robert “Poison Dwarf” Spencer; their “Stop the Islamization of America” is listed in the Southern Poverty Law Center’s annual survey of extremist organizations, under the heading of anti-Muslim hate groups.

Anti-Muslim hate groups are a relatively new phenomenon in the United States, most of them appearing in the aftermath of the World Trade Center terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001. Earlier anti-Muslim groups tended to be religious in orientation and disputed Islam’s status as a respectable religion.

All anti-Muslim hate groups exhibit extreme hostility toward Muslims. The organizations portray those who worship Islam as fundamentally alien and attribute to its followers an inherent set of negative traits. Muslims are depicted as irrational, intolerant and violent, and their faith is frequently depicted as sanctioning pedophilia, marital rape and child marriage.

These groups also typically hold conspiratorial views regarding the inherent danger to America posed by its Muslim-American community. Muslims are depicted as a fifth column intent on undermining and eventually replacing American democracy and Western civilization with Islamic despotism. Anti-Muslim hate groups allege that Muslims are trying to subvert the rule of law by imposing on Americans their own Islamic legal system, Shariah law.

Anti-Muslim hate groups also broadly defame Islam, which they tend to treat as a monolithic and evil religion. These groups generally hold that Islam has no values in common with other cultures, is inferior to the West and is a violent political ideology rather than a religion.

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531 comments
1 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 1:45:45pm

And the title of hate group fits like a well worn glove.

2 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 1:46:48pm

It takes them this long to notice?

She's been writing her hate in all caps with seventeen exclamation points.

3 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 1:46:55pm

I'm pretty sure she'll just take this as a badge of honor.

4 Ericus58  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 1:47:49pm

Well, let's get this done with.
About time that the bright light was shown on them by more than just LGF.

5 Merryweather  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 1:48:38pm

Snap. I literally just made a Page about this too.

What took them so long? Geller and her fellow hatemongers have been at this for a good while now.

6 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 1:49:02pm

Oh i am so happy for them. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving group. This is thrilling.

7 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 1:49:11pm

I am sure the harpy is proud.

8 Gus  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 1:51:42pm

Hate groups become enraged when they're listed as hate groups by the SPLC. Expect some major mental genuflecting by Geller, Spencer, and their fanboys. And as is typical with these moves by the SPLC the wingnuts will respond with the usual cliched bashing of the SPLC. Beck will connect the dots to Soros as he usually does.

9 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 1:56:06pm

re: #3 Simply Sarah

I'm pretty sure she'll just take this as a badge of honor.

Oh, wait. I have an even better idea. Can we give her a honey badger of honor?
/kinda

10 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 1:57:05pm

re: #8 Gus 802

Hate groups become enraged when they're listed as hate groups by the SPLC. Expect some major mental genuflecting by Geller, Spencer, and their fanboys. And as is typical with these moves by the SPLC the wingnuts will respond with the usual cliched bashing of the SPLC. Beck will connect the dots to Soros as he usually does.

The first thing you'll notice is the way they spell it: $PLC.

As though raising funds to accomplish the organizations mission is a compromise to the mission. To the contrary, they go well together when the KKK is forced to pay.

11 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 1:58:33pm

The SPLC has clearly been infiltrated by radical Muslims. //

12 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 1:59:51pm

There were lots of efforts to turn them away from the path of hate and craziness, but in the end they became more tribal, closed, and hate filled than the caricatures they paint of Muslims.

13 Gus  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:00:00pm

re: #11 CuriousLurker

The SPLC has clearly been infiltrated by radical Muslims. //

Another step forward in the establishment of a global caliphate as promoted by Communists, uber-Liberals and the Moozlim Brotherhood!

14 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:01:13pm

re: #9 Simply Sarah

Oh, wait. I have an even better idea. Can we give her a honey badger of honor?
/kinda

The Honey Badger of Honor does not need to be pinned to the recipient's lapel. It is self-pinning.

:O

15 Gus  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:01:14pm

Checkmate!

16 albusteve  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:01:30pm

Geller sells...it's a nice income
tits and ass
influence by association
spokesnut for a loyal client willing to spend
just another media whore

17 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:02:33pm

re: #3 Simply Sarah

I'm pretty sure she'll just take this as a badge of honor.

With her neo nazi and white supremacist bedfellows she definitely will. This makes her a full bore member of the VDARE/Stormfront/CoCC/Buchananite crowd. She'll be speaking at the Taft club meetings before you know it...

18 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:02:34pm

re: #3 Simply Sarah

Exactly.

19 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:04:34pm

re: #17 Thanos

With her neo nazi and white supremacist bedfellows she definitely will. This makes her a full bore member of the VDARE/Stormfront/CoCC/Buchananite crowd. She'll be speaking at the Taft club meetings before you know it...

Wherever the money and the eyeballs to ogle her are!

20 Usually refered to as anyways  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:05:11pm

re: #16 albusteve

Geller sells...it's a nice income
tits and ass

Well I wouldn't be paying.

21 Gus  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:08:06pm

re: #18 Sergey Romanov

Exactly.

They may claim that on the outside but inside it eats at them.

22 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:09:41pm
23 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:10:22pm

This is what happens when you try to form a coalition of extremists....
EDL dismisses Jewish arm as too extreme


The leadership of the English Defence League has distanced itself from the group's Jewish Division, because of its partnership with the far-right American group Jewish Task Force.

The head of the EDL's Jewish division, Roberta Moore, previously announced that the group was working with the JTF, whose leader Victor Vancier has been imprisoned for terrorism offences.

This week the EDL's leadership issued a statement saying that if the Jewish Division continued relations with the JTF, they would sever ties with her.

24 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:10:51pm

re: #13 Gus 802

Another step forward in the establishment of a global caliphate as promoted by Communists, uber-Liberals and the Moozlim Brotherhood!

There are 0 degrees of separation between the founders of SPLC and Habitat for Humanity, another well-known commie community-organizing conspiracy. Morris Dees and Millard Fuller were law/business partners until they fell under the sway of radical Christian subversives at Koininia Farm.

25 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:12:53pm

re: #5 Merryweather

Snap. I literally just made a Page about this too.

What took them so long? Geller and her fellow hatemongers have been at this for a good while now.

There are a lot of haters out there, and SPLC denounces only the very best.

26 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:15:05pm

re: #24 Decatur Deb

PIMF 'Koinonia'.

27 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:16:48pm

Yikes! Since the Geller-Spencer consortium reacts to everyday events with hysteria and predictions of imminent doom, what is their response to this likely to be?

It will be Armageddon, the Apocalypse, the commies taking over McCarthy's senate, the final showdown between goodness and truth (them) and those benighted types who think a terrorist gang can't possibly have 1.2 billion co-conspirators (the rest of us).

28 Gus  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:18:02pm

re: #25 SanFranciscoZionist

There are a lot of haters out there, and SPLC denounces only the very best.

"S" is for Stormfront as it is for "Stop Islamization of America".

29 Four More Tears  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:18:04pm

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! Since the Geller-Spencer consortium reacts to everyday events with hysteria and predictions of imminent doom, what is their response to this likely to be?

It will be Armageddon, the Apocalypse, the commies taking over McCarthy's senate, the final showdown between goodness and truth (them) and those benighted types who think a terrorist gang can't possibly have 1.2 billion co-conspirators (the rest of us).

but but but where are all of the moderate muslims?!?

/

30 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:19:41pm

re: #29 JasonA

but but but where are all of the moderate muslims?!?

/

Gone the way of moderate Republicans, I guess...

31 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:20:57pm

The haters need to start their own religion. It should be easy enough since their ideologies & rhetoric are so similar. Nah, that won't work as it won't leave anyone for them to hate.

32 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:21:05pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

This is what happens when you try to form a coalition of extremists...
EDL dismisses Jewish arm as too extreme

JTF, of course, a proud Kahanists.

33 Gus  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:21:23pm

Does anyone know where I can get some boxed vodka?

//Just like boxed wine only with vodka.

/

34 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:23:02pm

re: #32 Sergey Romanov

are
(happens to me all the time, "phonetic" misspellings)

35 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:23:21pm

re: #29 JasonA

but but but where are all of the moderate muslims?!?

/

If they're anything like Baptists, there must be millions of apathetic ones at the very least.

36 Gus  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:24:49pm
37 Renaissance_Man  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:25:14pm

re: #31 CuriousLurker

The haters need to start their own religion. It should be easy enough since their ideologies & rhetoric are so similar. Nah, that won't work as it won't leave anyone for them to hate.

Au contraire. They already have started their own religion. They call it 'Conservatism', which is an unfortunate bastardisation of a movement that used to mean something better.

38 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:25:28pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

And Vancier apparently has been banned from entering Israel.

39 Lidane  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:26:03pm

re: #6 Cankles McCellulite

Oh i am so happy for them. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving group. This is thrilling.

+1

40 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:28:13pm

re: #32 Sergey Romanov

JTF, of course, a proud Kahanists.

Yup. Pretty much the only Jews who would want to be part of an extremist European ethnic nationalist movement against Muslims are the Kahanists.

41 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:31:47pm

re: #29 JasonA

but but but where are all of the moderate muslims?!?

/

C'mon you know their existence is a myth. Those of us who seem moderate are just practicing taqiyya in order to lull you into a false sense of security while we carry out our plan to Islamize America. /

42 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:33:58pm

re: #41 CuriousLurker

C'mon you know their existence is a myth. Those of us who seem moderate are just practicing taqiyya in order to lull you into a false sense of security while we carry out our plan to Islamize America. /

Do you get Worlwide Caliphate checks?

43 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:34:04pm

re: #32 Sergey Romanov

JTF, of course, a proud Kahanists.

Yeah, I had to look them up just now. I'm pretty sure I've seen Vancier before on one of those public access cable channels in NYC.

44 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:35:47pm

Quotes from JTF forum (uncensored, for which I apologize):

habiru
Senior JTFer
Offline
Posts: 316
Just another indication of whata sick kike nation Israel has become
« on: October 17, 2006, 02:53:27 PM »

---

Mishmaat
Global Moderator
Master JTFer

Offline

Gender:
Posts: 1852

Ask JTF for Sunday, November 14, 2010
« on: November 06, 2010, 03:56:44 PM »

Shalom Chaim,

1. Do you think it's possible that the Head n***** In Charge, Barack Hussein Osama yimach shmo, may be a closet homosexual? I'm sure you recall that Larry Sinclair accused the long legged mack daddy of being involved with him in homosexual activity and illicit drug use. It's entirely plausible that Osama may be a "down low brother" when you also consider the fact that black men have a propensity to be discreetly involved in homosexual activity while also having relations with females. What do you think?

2. What is your opinion of Spike Lee? I recently watched his "critically acclaimed" film Do the Right Thing and for me to say that it was utter nonsense would be the understatement of the year. Is this individual a "brilliant" director or is he just another worthless racist black?

3. May you share with us a recent close encounter with the Turd World?

You're a gentleman and a scholar.

Kol tuv.

45 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:37:58pm
46 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:38:09pm

re: #42 Decatur Deb

Do you get Worlwide Caliphate checks?

Yep, every month like clockwork. We also have secret decoder rings that we use for communication.

47 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:38:28pm

re: #44 Sergey Romanov

Quotes from JTF forum (uncensored, for which I apologize):

---

I may vomit.

48 zora  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:39:50pm

re: #16 albusteve

she would fit in perfectly on one of those "real" housewives reality shows.

49 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:40:21pm

re: #44 Sergey Romanov

Those are some very, very sick puppies.

50 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:42:37pm

re: #44 Sergey Romanov

Quotes from JTF forum (uncensored, for which I apologize):

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Wow.

51 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:43:25pm

And here's something relevant to history of LGF from the same forum:

muman613
Moderator
Gold Star JTF Member

Online

Gender:
Posts: 10735

ENEMIES : Nazis & Islamists
Re: Charles Johnson is an idiot!!!
I am so happy to see that Charles Johnson, of LGF fame, has finally gone off the rocker... Once the poster-boy of the Right wing and anti-Islam message he now has swapped his morality for the religion of the left, progressive liberalism.

I was banned from his LGF forum almost 4 years ago... After I was banned I took up against Charles, the self-righteous fool, and started the LGFSUCKS blog... I knew that this individual was not stable, he is a G-d in his own mind, a self-made legend. He railed against me because he thought I supported the concept he labeled as 'Creationism' because I said that Hashem was the creator of the heaven and the earth. Charles is a dim bulb who is only able to get followers who propagate the echo-chamber of dull progressive ideas.

I hope that Charles is quickly forgotten and when he is sick and dying he will possibly do repentence, but I doubt it...

Charles, I apologize for reposting, but I think this is a badge of honor.

52 Gus  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:46:07pm

I've watched a few videos from a couple of JTF members on Liveleak. Not only are they a hate group but they're certifiable.

Warning: that's a link to their videos on Liveleak so proceed with caution.

53 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:46:18pm

re: #51 Sergey Romanov

And here's something relevant to history of LGF from the same forum:

Charles, I apologize for reposting, but I think this is a badge of honor.

Hmmm...I don't recognize his nic but he seems like the kind of person that would get banned from lgf.

54 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:48:41pm

I will never in a million years understand how a person can be so hateful towards so many people, how their hearts & minds can be so utterly dark & twisted without the poison seeping into the rest of their system and killing them.

Surely they must have family they love and who love them back, so it's not as if they're incapable of... never mind... it impossible to wrap my mind around it, so I'm going to stop trying.

55 albusteve  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:48:53pm

re: #53 Killgore Trout

Hmmm...I don't recognize his nic but he seems like the kind of person that would get banned from lgf.

not familiar to me either

56 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:48:54pm

re: #53 Killgore Trout

You do figure prominently at the mentioned blog :P

57 Gus  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:49:08pm

Cue the Slobodan Milošević hero worship from the usual suspects.

58 albusteve  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:50:42pm

re: #54 CuriousLurker

I will never in a million years understand how a person can be so hateful towards so many people, how their hearts & minds can be so utterly dark & twisted without the poison seeping into the rest of their system and killing them.

Surely they must have family they love and who love them back, so it's not as if they're incapable of... never mind... it impossible to wrap my mind around it, so I'm going to stop trying.

the answer...

59 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:51:25pm

re: #54 CuriousLurker

I will never in a million years understand how a person can be so hateful towards so many people, how their hearts & minds can be so utterly dark & twisted without the poison seeping into the rest of their system and killing them.

Surely they must have family they love and who love them back, so it's not as if they're incapable of... never mind... it impossible to wrap my mind around it, so I'm going to stop trying.

Klansmen love their children too.

Image: ku-klux-klan-family-group-georgia-1930.jpg

60 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:51:41pm

re: #51 Sergey Romanov

That these people utter the name of God with the same mouths they use to to spew their venom makes me ill.

61 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:51:52pm

re: #53 Killgore Trout

Hmmm...I don't recognize his nic but he seems like the kind of person that would get banned from lgf.

Apparently, and I may be wrong, the owner of "lgfsucks" is a certain "savagenation".

62 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:52:29pm

re: #52 Gus 802

I've watched a few videos from a couple of JTF members on Liveleak. Not only are they a hate group but they're certifiable.

Warning: that's a link to their videos on Liveleak so proceed with caution.

I'll take your word for it. I'm not EVEN gonna look this time. Uh-uh.

63 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:52:33pm

re: #56 Sergey Romanov

You do figure prominently at the mentioned blog :P

I'm also Big in Japan....

64 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:55:07pm

re: #58 albusteve

the answer...

[Video]

QFT

65 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:55:36pm

re: #59 Decatur Deb

Klansmen love their children too.

Image: ku-klux-klan-family-group-georgia-1930.jpg

Round and round we go...

Image: 369225968_1e63a4fb82_o.jpg

66 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:55:49pm

Is Donald Rumsfeld a Flesh Eating Lizard from Outer Space?
Is getting more clicks than I anticipated. Unfortunately some of the funniest parts are edited out but it is a pretty long clip.

67 Gus  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:56:03pm

re: #62 CuriousLurker

I'll take your word for it. I'm not EVEN gonna look this time. Uh-uh.

Here's a safe version from Wiki: Victor Vancier. He's the racist, homophobe, all around hater that posts at Liveleak.

68 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:57:01pm

re: #59 Decatur Deb

Klansmen love their children too.

Image: ku-klux-klan-family-group-georgia-1930.jpg

Image: irony.jpg

69 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:58:08pm

re: #51 Sergey Romanov

And here's something relevant to history of LGF from the same forum:

Charles, I apologize for reposting, but I think this is a badge of honor.

I recall "muman" from the LGF Lounge. He's a pretty screwed up guy. Had somebody living with him that he called "homeless". Re-found his religion after 9/11, and had a "holier than thou" attitude.

70 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:58:19pm

re: #68 Varek Raith

Image: irony.jpg

What am I missing. We can't post links to images anymore?

71 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:59:19pm

re: #70 Walter L. Newton

What am I missing. We can't post links to images anymore?

What are you missing?
What am I missing???

72 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:59:47pm

re: #68 Varek Raith

Image: irony.jpg

Lost me. What is "sublink"?

73 Gus  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:00:33pm

re: #67 Gus 802

Here's a safe version from Wiki: Victor Vancier. He's the racist, homophobe, all around hater that posts at Liveleak.

Excerpt:

Victor Vancier (born December 25, 1956), commonly referred to by his Hebrew name, Chaim Ben Pesach (Hebrew: חיים בן פסח‎) is an American political activist and the founder and director[citation needed] of the United States-based Kahanist organization, Jewish Task Force (JTF) and the former National Chairman of the Jewish Defense League (JDL) in the United States. In 1987, he was convicted of doing a series of bombings in order to free Soviet Jews during his time with the JDL. He served over five years in federal prison for his involvement in 18 bombings in New York and Washington.

[...]

Jewish Task Force aired on public access television in the mid-1990s, in Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Queens. Vancier, who had by that time been convicted on three separate occasions for his involvement in terrorist bombings, became notorious for his criticisms of black culture and views on homosexuality and was heavily criticized in local magazines and newspapers for his controversial opinions. In the context of state comptroller elections, in one instance, after lauding one candidate, Herbert London, as "a real Jewish man", he derided London's opponent, an African American, as "a low, Jew-hating, Jew-killing cockroach". He further described attorney general candidate Karen Burstein as a "disgusting, ugly lesbian". He continued,

The God of Israel will not tolerate homosexuality or lesbianism. It is an abomination onto the Lord... I have a cure for AIDS that doesn't cost one penny. Stop being fags!

After the election of Obama, the members of the JTF , including Mr. Vancier, have become more extreme in their views of Black and other cultures. There are continued requests on the "Ask JTF" webcast for "African Action Stories" and a general negative outlook toward Black, Arab and mainstream Jewish culture.

Vancier has referred to Nelson Mandela as a "Black Nazi", Yasser Arafat as the "Arab Hitler" and a "Muslim terrorist pedophile who died of AIDS". He has also targeted former First Lady and senator Hillary Clinton and former U.S. President George W. Bush on his website, calling Clinton "Hillary Sodom Arafat" and Bush "Jorge Wahabi Bush" whom he calls a "low, disgusting traitor" and "excrement". He also uses language such as "schvartze" when referring to African-Americans and "kike" for Jews he considers to be traitors. JTF's messages have been condemned for alleged racism by the Anti-Defamation League and the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

74 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:00:42pm

re: #71 Varek Raith

What are you missing?
What am I missing???

When I click on that link of your's, there is a graphic that says "do not sublink images" I thought you were trying to make a point, a statement?

75 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:01:18pm

re: #74 Walter L. Newton

When I click on that link of your's, there is a graphic that says "do not sublink images" I thought you were trying to make a point, a statement?

Huh, works fine for me...
Odd.

76 Petero1818  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:01:56pm

Mazel Tov!

77 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:02:20pm

re: #59 Decatur Deb

Klansmen love their children too.

Image: ku-klux-klan-family-group-georgia-1930.jpg

re: #65 Walter L. Newton

Round and round we go...

Image: 369225968_1e63a4fb82_o.jpg

Human beings are just... impossible. We are collectively more horrifying and wonderful and incomprehensible than the most bizarre, fantastical creatures our minds could ever dream up.

78 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:02:44pm

re: #75 Varek Raith

See re: #72 Decatur Deb

79 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:03:19pm

re: #69 wrenchwench

I recall "muman" from the LGF Lounge. He's a pretty screwed up guy. Had somebody living with him that he called "homeless". Re-found his religion after 9/11, and had a "holier than thou" attitude.

Dang, woman, is there anyone you don't have a file on? I'm impressed. ;o)

80 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:03:57pm

re: #69 wrenchwench

I recall "muman" from the LGF Lounge. He's a pretty screwed up guy. Had somebody living with him that he called "homeless". Re-found his religion after 9/11, and had a "holier than thou" attitude.

[Link: defenseman.wordpress.com...]

LGF 2.0 got its start from a commentor who was banned from Little Green Footballs named muman. The blog was originally, from what I can gather, named LGF Sucks. This changed in August 2008 after two other commentors were banned for their behavior, Rodan and Savage_Nation. The blog started as a rant against Charles Johnson of LGF by muman for preceived slights after Johnson exposed the idiotarianism of Intelligent Design, the Wedge Strategy, and its links to some very unsavory anti-science young-earth creationists. They have a habit of “nic-jacking” commentors from LGF, Johnson, Killgore Trout, and Sharmuta in particular. They also wrongly believe that Johnson is on an anti-Christian crusade. He is not, and has denied their claims several times.

81 albusteve  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:04:12pm

White House Pushes Libya Sanctions, Says Qaddafi Legitimacy 'Reduced to Zero'

all embassy personel are now out of Libya

Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

82 Varek Raith  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:04:14pm

Well, poop.
I broke something.
I blame Bush.

83 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:04:38pm

re: #82 Varek Raith

Well, poop.
I broke something.
I blame Bush.

You would.

84 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:05:25pm

re: #44 Sergey Romanov

Internet tough guys, gotta love 'em

85 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:06:01pm

re: #69 wrenchwench

I recall "muman" from the LGF Lounge. He's a pretty screwed up guy. Had somebody living with him that he called "homeless". Re-found his religion after 9/11, and had a "holier than thou" attitude.

if he's living with him, he's not homeless! :D

86 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:08:03pm

re: #73 Gus 802

What is the realistic potential for violence in the current JTF? Not bad enough I drive by a Klan picnic area and a militia training ground.

87 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:12:23pm

re: #69 wrenchwench

I recall "muman" from the LGF Lounge. He's a pretty screwed up guy. Had somebody living with him that he called "homeless". Re-found his religion after 9/11, and had a "holier than thou" attitude.

Oh yeah - that guy. Want to know why he was banned from LGF?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I just restored this comment - it was deleted shortly after he posted it and he was blocked.

88 Gus  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:13:54pm

re: #86 Decatur Deb

What is the realistic potential for violence in the current JTF? Not bad enough I drive by a Klan picnic area and a militia training ground.

Got me. For the time being it seems as though Vancier has settled on being a crazed internet phenom at Liveleak. Here's a little more on Vancier from an ADL document:

In November 1986, Victor Vancier,* the self-proclaimed leader of the JDL in New York, was arrested outside the Penta Hotel with a tear gas grenade after a fire broke out in the tunnels under the hotel where the Soviet Moiseyev Dance Company was performing. Vancier was charged with a Federal weapons violation. Vancier was later sentenced to a ten-year prison term for bombing attacks at the Soviet diplomatic residence in New York, as well as for attacks against Soviet cultural performances.

And a page from ADL: Backgrounder:The Jewish Defense League

89 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:15:08pm

Alex Jones sounds like Bubby The Love Sponge


I'm listening to Charlie Sheen sounding all zany and coked out on Alex Jones' show, wow they are really something

90 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:15:17pm

re: #87 Charles

Oh yeah - that guy. Want to know why he was banned from LGF?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I just restored this comment - it was deleted shortly after he posted it and he was blocked.

Aaand another racist liar who whines about being banned for creationism is exposed.

91 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:15:23pm

re: #89 WindUpBird

BUBBA the love sponge

92 bratwurst  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:15:23pm

re: #87 Charles

Oh yeah - that guy. Want to know why he was banned from LGF?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I just restored this comment - it was deleted shortly after he posted it and he was blocked.

Classy.

93 researchok  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:16:24pm

re: #88 Gus 802

Got me. For the time being it seems as though Vancier has settled on being a crazed internet phenom at Liveleak. Here's a little more on Vancier from an ADL document:

And a page from ADL: Backgrounder:The Jewish Defense League

These morons definitively put away the stereotype that all Jews are smart.

94 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:16:46pm

re: #87 Charles

Oh yeah - that guy. Want to know why he was banned from LGF?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I just restored this comment - it was deleted shortly after he posted it and he was blocked.

OMG. I vaguely recall that. Really glad to see my nic in the list of downdingers on that one. Ugh.

95 albusteve  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:17:16pm

re: #87 Charles

Oh yeah - that guy. Want to know why he was banned from LGF?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I just restored this comment - it was deleted shortly after he posted it and he was blocked.

definitely Hall of Fame

96 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:17:19pm

re: #87 Charles

he has that weird overuse of punctuation that often tips me off to crazy internet behavior

97 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:18:45pm

so basically I'm listening to cut-up Charlie Sheen Alex Jones quotes on the Rick Emerson Show, it's the funniest thing I've ever heard, they're sorta MST3King their conversation, dissecting it like surgeons

98 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:19:20pm

re: #95 albusteve

definitely Hall of Fame Shame

99 researchok  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:21:23pm

re: #93 researchok

I know, I gotta be more PC

100 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:22:22pm

re: #88 Gus 802

Got me. For the time being it seems as though Vancier has settled on being a crazed internet phenom at Liveleak. Here's a little more on Vancier from an ADL document:

And a page from ADL: Backgrounder:The Jewish Defense League

Thanks--looks like they're fairly suppressed.

101 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:23:43pm

If this isn't the greatest fucking song Portland has created in the last few years, I have no idea what is

102 CuriousLurker  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:23:44pm

It's time for me to go make some dinner. I hope I still have some of that brain bleach left under the sink, 'cause I'm sure gonna need it.

Later, lizards.

103 Gus  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:24:40pm

re: #102 CuriousLurker

It's time for me to go make some dinner. I hope I still have some of that brain bleach left under the sink, 'cause I'm sure gonna need it.

Later, lizards.

Brain Draino™

Helps clear the mind...

Later.

104 albusteve  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:27:24pm

re: #101 WindUpBird

If this isn't the greatest fucking song Portland has created in the last few years, I have no idea what is


[Video]

I like the roots feel....almost Irish

105 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:28:01pm

Hatred, Bigotry and ignorance
Pamela just hit the Trifecta!

106 Four More Tears  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:29:29pm

re: #94 reine.de.tout

OMG. I vaguely recall that. Really glad to see my nic in the list of downdingers on that one. Ugh.

Hey, Racer X downed it too. Made me realize I haven't seen his name here in a while. Hope he's alright.

107 researchok  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:31:56pm

re: #101 WindUpBird

If this isn't the greatest fucking song Portland has created in the last few years, I have no idea what is


[Video]

Move over, Seattle.

108 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:32:19pm

re: #104 albusteve

I like the roots feel...almost Irish

Their records go all over the place, this is the one that they settled down and just wrote really great songs. They do a crazy rock-opera record full of bizarre arrangements, then they turn around and do something like this

109 albusteve  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:32:27pm

re: #106 JasonA

Hey, Racer X downed it too. Made me realize I haven't seen his name here in a while. Hope he's alright.

I liked him, but everytime I say that someone posts a bad thing about them...I never know what happened to all the older posters...just gone, like my last paycheck

110 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:32:45pm

re: #107 researchok

Move over, Seattle.

Why do you think I'm here and not in Seattle anymore :D

111 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:33:19pm

re: #110 WindUpBird

Why do you think I'm here and not in Seattle anymore :D

Arrest warrants?

112 researchok  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:34:41pm

re: #110 WindUpBird

Why do you think I'm here and not in Seattle anymore :D

Well, Seattle has the music rep.

That may change.

113 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:35:02pm

re: #107 researchok

Move over, Seattle.

I visited the neighborhood in Seattle where my art school is, a few months back, the area was UNRECOGNIZABLE, it had gone from being the quirky gay district full of punks, mindblowing record shops, dingy cool coffee shops, to just being swank restaurants for and BMW M3s and oof ya can't go back home

114 albusteve  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:35:49pm

re: #112 researchok

Well, Seattle has the music rep.

That may change.

I hope so....grunge could sure morph into something better, gag me

115 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:36:41pm

re: #112 researchok

Well, Seattle has the music rep.

That may change.

Seattle's rock music scene is currently not doing much compared to Portland's scene, Seattle has sorta gone dormant since record companies got a hold of the scene in the 90's

Austin has a LOT more going on than Seattle these days, as far as I can tell

116 albusteve  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:38:28pm

American farmers making money...

Rising grain prices may put the fear of inflation into many American consumers, but in states where wheat and corn are grown, the high prices have been a godsend.

[Link: www.wbez.org...]

117 researchok  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:38:39pm

re: #115 WindUpBird

Seattle's rock music scene is currently not doing much compared to Portland's scene, Seattle has sorta gone dormant since record companies got a hold of the scene in the 90's

Austin has a LOT more going on than Seattle these days, as far as I can tell

I don't know much about west coast music.

Austin is pretty cool= has been for a while.

118 Gus  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:40:42pm

Time to play with a work project. Back later.

119 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:41:09pm

re: #114 albusteve

I hope so...grunge could sure morph into something better, gag me

The problem with grunge is that word covers so much distance that it means nothing :P

I mean, mudhoney is a shouty punk band, they were considered "grunge"

Alice in Chains was a former glam/hair band that detuned to drop D and pounded on a way pedal, they're way more sabbath than anything, but they're considered "grunge"

Soundgarden was practically prog-metal in places with a drummer who seems to think in four dimensions, they're somehow grunge along with Nirvana, who play three chords in 4/4 for entire albums

And then there's the Melvins, which is what *I* would consider grunge, or what the word should mean, the experimental, crushingly heavy band that influenced everyone around them and sold no records, and is still around, still hailed as one of the most important bands in heavy music

120 albusteve  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:41:40pm

re: #115 WindUpBird

Seattle's rock music scene is currently not doing much compared to Portland's scene, Seattle has sorta gone dormant since record companies got a hold of the scene in the 90's

Austin has a LOT more going on than Seattle these days, as far as I can tell

Austin cranks out more music in a year than most states...there is no comparison, not even Nashville....and indigenous Texas genders are alive and thriving there....the place just rocks

121 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:43:03pm

re: #120 albusteve

Austin cranks out more music in a year than most states...there is no comparison, not even Nashville...and indigenous Texas genders are alive and thriving there...the place just rocks

Austin gave me these guys

So I'm pretty much in debt to them forever :D

122 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:45:08pm

And the "Jewish Division" of EDL responds on their blog:

However, we have recently - a couple of weeks ago - discovered that the EDL had already made an alliance with the JTF in 2010, resulting in them both attending a rally in Amsterdam in support of Geert Wilders. The following photos provide concrete proof that both attended the rally, that the EDL knew of the existence of the JTF at the rally, and that they were happy to pose in a group together. I would not insult the EDL by accusing them of doing this without proper research.

We in the Jewish Division would like to reiterate our whole-hearted, continuing support for Chaim ben Pesach and the JTF, and for the comment he made, reported by Jessica Elgot, at the close of her article:"There are elements in the EDL who desperately want to be accepted by the leftwing establishment and the media. These elements have no principles or courage. Roberta Moore and the Jewish Division represent courageous and noble elements. If the EDL is not willing to work with JTF, then they are rejecting all rightwing Jews, evangelical Christians and others who believe in the right of the Jewish people to the entire land of Israel."

123 Decatur Deb  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:48:59pm

Party time. BBL.

124 albusteve  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:49:50pm

re: #121 WindUpBird

Austin gave me these guys


[Video]So I'm pretty much in debt to them forever :D

re: #121 WindUpBird

Austin gave me these guys


[Video]So I'm pretty much in debt to them forever :D

Austin has something for everyone...clubs are packed no matter the style of music over there, altho certain sounds are more famous for the stars that came out of those clubs...and the fans around town are so knowledgable, they know the players, the stars before they were stars, memorable gigs, who does what with who and where, history, styles etc....just very deep in

125 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:53:10pm

re: #122 Sergey Romanov

And the "Jewish Division" of EDL responds on their blog:

It'll be interesting to see how Crazy Pam responds.

127 engineer cat  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:57:01pm

msnbc: Dogpile on Romney as 2012 battle begins

pious badger and screechy mooselini chew on smiley poodle to help ensure that gop has no viable candidate in 2012

128 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:58:11pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

It'll be interesting to see how Crazy Pam responds.

I think I could probably write it for her at this point.

129 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 3:59:44pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

It'll be interesting to see how Crazy Pam responds.

Here response is up.

It's a badge of honor...blah blah.

SPLC loves Islamists blah blah...

130 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:00:37pm

In the original EDL statement distancing themselves from JTF they nevertheless write:

The English Defence League has worked closely with the Jewish Defence League since its formation, as it has with a number of other faiths and religions. The EDL is open for all to join but its purpose still stands to defend England from Islamism and Islamists, while forging links with similar groups around the globe.
131 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:00:57pm

re: #129 Jadespring

Here response is up.

It's a badge of honor...blah blah.

SPLC loves Islamists blah blah...


And

They refuse to cover, evaluate, or report on the single greatest threat to free men here and across the world. The jihad is exempt from the prying, dishonest leadership of the SLPC, but those who are standing up against these tremendous odds are being smeared, defamed and destroyed.

blah blah blah....

132 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:04:55pm

re: #3 Simply Sarah

I'm pretty sure she'll just take this as a badge of honor.

re: #129 Jadespring

Here response is up.

It's a badge of honor...blah blah.

SPLC loves Islamists blah blah...

Sarah wins a prize!

133 albusteve  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:10:01pm
134 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:10:04pm

re: #132 Sergey Romanov

re: #129 Jadespring

Sarah wins a prize!

Woo go Sarah!

135 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:10:27pm

If you get a chance please help out by flagging this video as a hate video at youtube. **** WARNING THIS IS HATE GROUP YOUTUBE CHANNEL. ****


IT's from the white Supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens and furthers the "White women are being raped in Malmo" agitprop of the SIOE crowd.

136 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:11:16pm

I see Pam sheds tears for Trifkovic being banned from Canada.

Here's Kejda Gjermani's expose of Trifkovic and of his ties to Spencer:

[Link: www.kejda.net...]

137 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:13:44pm

re: #135 Thanos

If you get a chance please help out by flagging this video as a hate video at youtube. *** WARNING THIS IS HATE GROUP YOUTUBE CHANNEL. ***
[Video]

IT's from the white Supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens and furthers the "White women are being raped in Malmo" agitprop of the SIOE crowd.

Done. They've got some nasty crap over there.

138 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:14:25pm

re: #131 Jadespring

And

blah blah blah...

Pammy, you're a bigot plain and simple. You're plain ugly on the inside and simply evil everywhere else.

139 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:16:37pm

re: #136 Sergey Romanov

I see Pam sheds tears for Trifkovic being banned from Canada.

Here's Kejda Gjermani's expose of Trifkovic and of his ties to Spencer:

[Link: www.kejda.net...]

Kejda is such an superb writer.

140 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:19:40pm

re: #132 Sergey Romanov

re: #129 Jadespring

Sarah wins a prize!

Yay me! Although, it feels kinda like winning for saying water is wet and that the sun will rise...

141 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:20:08pm

re: #136 Sergey Romanov

I see Pam sheds tears for Trifkovic being banned from Canada.

Here's Kejda Gjermani's expose of Trifkovic and of his ties to Spencer:

[Link: www.kejda.net...]

Being from Canada I tried to read that. I know nothing about it or the issue. Then I thought what am I doing. I not going to get any real good info about it there. So then I googled.

I still am mostly clueless.

142 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:20:08pm

re: #137 SanFranciscoZionist

thx!

143 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:21:56pm

re: #135 Thanos

If you get a chance please help out by flagging this video as a hate video at youtube. *** WARNING THIS IS HATE GROUP YOUTUBE CHANNEL. ***

[Video]
IT's from the white Supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens and furthers the "White women are being raped in Malmo" agitprop of the SIOE crowd.

I've flagged it as well. The less of that garbage out there, the better.

144 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:24:49pm

re: #141 Jadespring

Being from Canada I tried to read that. I know nothing about it or the issue. Then I thought what am I doing. I not going to get any real good info about it there. So then I googled.

I still am mostly clueless.

Okay I meant I tried to read what Pam wrote about it not the link you posted.

I just read the link. I should have read it before commenting. I get it more now.

Gah....my brain is too dead to think about this right now. I'm confusing myself. LOL

145 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:25:20pm

re: #140 Simply Sarah

Yay me! Although, it feels kinda like winning for saying water is wet and that the sun will rise...

You win the new best selling book: "The Thoughts and Ideas of Sarah Palin".

It's a real short read. Really, really short.

146 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:26:01pm

re: #145 b_sharp

You win the new best selling book: "The Thoughts and Ideas of Sarah Palin".

It's a real short read. Really, really short.

It...it's just a cover and book jacket.

147 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:27:25pm

re: #146 Simply Sarah

It...it's just a cover and book jacket.

I told you is was a short read. As short as it is, it does keep her supporters enthralled.

148 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:27:57pm

re: #133 albusteve

now that's worth pondering

It's becoming a problem that Republicans are going to find increasingly common. Locally, the union busting is not very popular and it's a serious issue for the state and people want a serious discussion. Beck creating a conspiracy theory that the Wisconsin is the epicenter of the New World Order uprising is not helpful.

149 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:28:03pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

Wisconsin Radio Station Explains Why It Dropped Beck's "Unacceptable" Show

Sorta like O'Reilly's show was a plug for his TV show and Levin's show is a vehicle to plug his books

150 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:28:09pm

Maddow rips the hacks at "Politifact" a new one:

151 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:28:10pm

re: #145 b_sharp

You win the new best selling book: "The Thoughts and Ideas of Sarah Palin".

It's a real short read. Really, really short.

Is that the one that one page in it and says. " Hi, I'm Sarah Palin. I love me. I love America. Did I say I love me yet? Some people don't like me. They don't love America. I forgot, did I say I love me yet?

The end."

152 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:31:19pm

re: #144 Jadespring

Okay I meant I tried to read what Pam wrote about it not the link you posted.

I just read the link. I should have read it before commenting. I get it more now.

Gah...my brain is too dead to think about this right now. I'm confusing myself. LOL

You are suffering from what is called a 'Web Concussion'. You get it from repeatedly introducing your palm to your face and your head to a brick wall.

153 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:32:24pm

re: #151 Jadespring

Is that the one that one page in it and says. " Hi, I'm Sarah Palin. I love me. I love America. Did I say I love me yet? Some people don't like me. They don't love America. I forgot, did I say I love me yet?

The end."

You've read it I see.

154 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:33:23pm

Caution: Alex Jones Is Using Sheen-Related Media Blitz To Promote His Conspiracy Theories

. I've already been on MSNBC today, and I'm on a whole bunch of stuff coming up tonight. And obviously, we'll be able to inject InfoWars.com into the discussion when I'm on those broadcasts, and the people will come here and find the larger picture. It's kind of the red pill. Thanks to Charlie Sheen. [Genesis Communications, The Alex Jones Show, 2/25/11]

155 albusteve  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:34:30pm
156 Jadespring  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:35:12pm

re: #153 b_sharp

You've read it I see.

Yes. I'm not sure I understood it on all on the first read through though. I think I may have to read it again to make sure I got it all. It's a deep read.

157 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:35:17pm

It's 6:30 in Norman, and now seems to be a good to do a summary about Libya. As of the current Wikipedia, there are 811 dead in what could be described as a Civil War. Today was Day 10 of the Uprising. As of right now, there is a major battle at a base in Misurata. Also, it seems that preparations are underway for a battle in Tripoli.

158 Four More Tears  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:36:25pm

re: #157 ProLifeLiberal

It's 6:30 in Norman, and now seems to be a good to do a summary about Libya. As of the current Wikipedia, there are 811 dead in what could be described as a Civil War. Today was Day 10 of the Uprising. As of right now, there is a major battle at a base in Misurata. Also, it seems that preparations are underway for a battle in Tripoli.

Anyone else struck by how fast this seems to be moving?

159 avanti  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:37:08pm

In case it has not been mentioned, Pam is trying to stuff the ballot box here:


Vote.

160 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:40:05pm

re: #136 Sergey Romanov

I see Pam sheds tears for Trifkovic being banned from Canada.

Here's Kejda Gjermani's expose of Trifkovic and of his ties to Spencer:

[Link: www.kejda.net...]

Just finished, that's extensive, well done, devastating, and a tour de force as far as investigative journalism goes.

161 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:40:50pm

re: #158 JasonA

Yeah. This gotten intense in a hurry. This a much more intense conflict than the one it Mexico (it seems). However, aside from continued fighting Misurata, Gaddafi is in trouble. He only controls Tripoli, Surt, Sabha, and the town of Ghadames, at the border of Tunisia and Algeria.

Wikipedia is treating this as a Civil War. There are currently 4 "battles" being listed:

Battle of Benghazi
Battle of Misurata
Battle of Az Zawiyah
Battle of Tripoli

162 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:41:34pm

LOL. Alex Jones linked to the Donald Rumsfeld-lizard video today under the title " Rumsfeld doesn’t have the answers (video)"

163 albusteve  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:42:39pm

re: #161 ProLifeLiberal

Yeah. This gotten intense in a hurry. This a much more intense conflict than the one it Mexico (it seems). However, aside from continued fighting Misurata, Gaddafi is in trouble. He only controls Tripoli, Surt, Sabha, and the town of Ghadames, at the border of Tunisia and Algeria.

Wikipedia is treating this as a Civil War. There are currently 4 "battles" being listed:

Battle of Benghazi
Battle of Misurata
Battle of Az Zawiyah
Battle of Tripoli

and now the international community looks to step in
[Link: www.wbez.org...]

164 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:43:36pm

re: #154 Killgore Trout

That interview is what cocaine sounds like! it's honestly so unbelievably difficult to follow, the only thing a curious listener is going to come away with is a headache. Alex Jones' voice is really hard to listen to, and then Sheen is just all coked out and being his crazyass self and ranting about HBO show deals that don't exist

165 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:45:25pm

Befriending my local fish monger is paying dividends. I went in to pick up some Rock Fish filets and he saw me checking out the smelt. He threw in a pound of free smelt. Yum!

166 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:45:46pm

re: #163 albusteve

Yesterday, I said that Australia, Botswana, Peru, and Switzerland have cut ties relations with the Libyan government. Today, so have Uruguay, France, and the United Kingdom. Round of applause to all these nations for stepping up to bat.

167 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:46:14pm

re: #156 Jadespring

Yes. I'm not sure I understood it on all on the first read through though. I think I may have to read it again to make sure I got it all. It's a deep read.

Maybe take a break from it and let your subunconscious will have a go.

168 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:48:01pm

re: #159 avanti

In case it has not been mentioned, Pam is trying to stuff the ballot box here:

Vote.

That poll needs to be Pharyngulated.

169 jadespring  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:48:07pm

re: #166 ProLifeLiberal

Yesterday, I said that Australia, Botswana, Peru, and Switzerland have cut ties relations with the Libyan government. Today, so have Uruguay, France, and the United Kingdom. Round of applause to all these nations for stepping up to bat.

It's great and everything but unfortunately does sweet f all for the people being slaughtered right now.

170 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:48:17pm

re: #157 ProLifeLiberal

It's 6:30 in Norman, and now seems to be a good to do a summary about Libya. As of the current Wikipedia, there are 811 dead in what could be described as a Civil War. Today was Day 10 of the Uprising. As of right now, there is a major battle at a base in Misurata. Also, it seems that preparations are underway for a battle in Tripoli.

Personally, I wouldn't call this a civil war. The way I see it, it is now a conflict between the people of Libya and a murderous madman with his goons.

I'm really worried about what is going to happen in Tripoli. As I've said before, a full-scale battle between loyalists and free Libyans would likely be a catastrophe and the possible loss of life could be staggering. Really, I'm holding out hope someone just puts a bullet into the back of the Colonel's head (Which is very weird for me to say, since I'm normally against any sort of killing or violence, but there doesn't seem to be any other good option here) and that his followers are more loyal to him than anything.

171 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:50:26pm

re: #165 Killgore Trout

Give a man a fish he'll eat for a day...teach a man to fish he'll eat for a life time!
Befriend and a Fish Shop owner ...eeh!

172 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:51:29pm

re: #166 ProLifeLiberal

Yesterday, I said that Australia, Botswana, Peru, and Switzerland have cut ties relations with the Libyan government. Today, so have Uruguay, France, and the United Kingdom. Round of applause to all these nations for stepping up to bat.

We did as well

173 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:51:46pm

re: #169 jadespring

I know, but at least they are taking action.

re: #170 Simply Sarah

I see your point, but what's going on there now seems to be more than just a normal toppling of Government. To me, this seems to be a very rapid civil war between two factions in a nation. Certainly lower scale than some, but this is far more intense than what is going on in Mexico with their Drug War.

174 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:52:08pm

re: #171 reloadingisnotahobby

Give a man a fish he'll eat for a day...teach a man to fish he'll eat for a life time!
Befriend and a Fish Shop owner ...eeh!

Befriend a Fish Shop owner and you can do the fish slap dance.

175 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:53:45pm

re: #172 Thanos

Just found that. I'll have to wait for the Wikipedia map to update. We are still seen as making only a statement. I do think the Libyan people will be successful without intervention now.

176 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:54:12pm

Tonight's my heart healthy diet cheat night, home smoked baby back ribs.. yummmm

177 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:55:50pm

re: #171 reloadingisnotahobby

Give a man a fish he'll eat for a day...teach a man to fish he'll eat for a life time!
Befriend and a Fish Shop owner ...eeh!

that reminds me... I got some lox in the fridge. Well that takes care of dinner.

178 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:56:08pm

re: #176 Thanos

smoked baby...??? Your rotten to the ..bone!
Bon Apetiet...No..I DON'T KNOW FRENCH!!!

179 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:56:19pm

re: #158 JasonA

Anyone else struck by how fast this seems to be moving?

Once he started ordering the slaughter of his own people, he sealed his fate. In other times and places, I think those tactics might have worked to cow the populace into submission. However, with the spreading democracy movements in the Arab world and his own history of violent reprisals against groups he feels have wronged him, I think the people decided early on that there was no turning back. All the violence ended up doing was shocking people that may have previously supported (Or, at least, not opposed) him into turning again him.

I think this is part of the reason we seem to have seen other regimes in the region very quickly moving to give concessions. They want people off the street as soon as possible and they don't want to risk galvanizing them through violent actions. You can see in Bahrain where they backed off the suppression after that only resulted in larger, angrier crowds.

180 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 4:59:38pm

re: #177 brookly red

Can't get lox in Central Utah ...go figure.../

181 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:00:15pm

re: #180 reloadingisnotahobby

Can't get lox in Central Utah ...go figure.../

I think....What are lox...?

182 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:01:25pm

re: #176 Thanos

Tonight's my heart healthy diet cheat night, home smoked baby back ribs.. yummm

Nice!

183 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:01:37pm

lox? smoked salmon.

184 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:02:01pm

re: #180 reloadingisnotahobby

Can't get lox in Central Utah ...go figure.../

I must be nice to live in a place where you don't have to lock your doors...

185 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:02:12pm

re: #173 ProLifeLiberal

I know, but at least they are taking action.

re: #170 Simply Sarah

I see your point, but what's going on there now seems to be more than just a normal toppling of Government. To me, this seems to be a very rapid civil war between two factions in a nation. Certainly lower scale than some, but this is far more intense than what is going on in Mexico with their Drug War.

Oh, I'm not questioning the intensity. I think it is, if anything, closer to an armed rebellion or revolt or revolution (3Rs?), since, at least from what reporting we've been getting, the vast majority of the population, along with most of the regular military, is supporting the rebellion against a largely isolated leader and his personal forces (Which are apparently made up of, at least in part, irregular forces).

It's a bit of a nitpick of terminology, but I also think that a widespread popular uprising functions differently than a civil war, in that most civilians and military are on the same side, rather than a country truly divided against itself. Of course, what happens after the common enemy is gone is another worrisome question.

186 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:03:13pm

re: #183 PhillyPretzel

I've got that bottled!!
...So lox is easier than saying smoked Salmon???
Oy!!!

187 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:04:30pm

re: #186 reloadingisnotahobby

One word instead of two. Yes it is easier.

188 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:05:22pm

re: #184 brookly red

Well I've been AWOL for a few day because I DIDN'T lock a door!!!!
I loved living here..still do ....Got Burglarized last Wed night!

189 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:05:43pm

re: #186 reloadingisnotahobby

I've got that bottled!!
...So lox is easier than saying smoked Salmon???
Oy!!!

actually smoked salmon only becomes lox once you put it on a bagel... if you put it on a crosant it remains smoked salmon.

190 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:06:21pm

re: #188 reloadingisnotahobby

Well I've been AWOL for a few day because I DIDN'T lock a door!!!
I loved living here..still do ...Got Burglarized last Wed night!

no shit? that sucks...

191 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:06:49pm

re: #187 PhillyPretzel

One word instead of two. Yes it is easier.

One syllable as opposed to four. Much easier.

192 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:07:01pm

re: #189 brookly red
Definition of Lox [Link: www.thefreedictionary.com...]

193 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:07:10pm

re: #189 brookly red

What do you call it on a Cracker..?...crox?/

194 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:07:26pm

re: #188 reloadingisnotahobby

Well I've been AWOL for a few day because I DIDN'T lock a door!!!
I loved living here..still do ...Got Burglarized last Wed night!

Ouch, man. I'm sorry to hear that. That sort of thing can be a real shock to the system, even ignoring material losses.

195 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:07:43pm

re: #193 reloadingisnotahobby

What do you call it on a Cracker..?...crox?/

Gone.

196 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:08:11pm

re: #193 reloadingisnotahobby
Ritz

197 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:08:26pm

re: #193 reloadingisnotahobby

What do you call it on a Cracker..?...crox?/

good question...

198 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:09:02pm

re: #185 Simply Sarah

I think I see your point. It's just that it seems a lot bigger than what has happened before. But I'm only going of things that have gone on in my lifetime, so that might be an issue.

Also, I hadn't welcomed you here since you joined recently. So, Hello!

199 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:12:09pm

re: #190 brookly red

re: #194 Simply Sarah
I nailed him the next day wearing my Cabella's Sweater...walking down the road...they couldn't hold him!!
He did get the only firearm that wasn't in the safe!!

200 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:13:11pm

re: #198 ProLifeLiberal

I think I see your point. It's just that it seems a lot bigger than what has happened before. But I'm only going of things that have gone on in my lifetime, so that might be an issue.

Also, I hadn't welcomed you here since you joined recently. So, Hello!

Oh, I agree with you there.

And thanks and hello!

201 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:13:13pm

re: #181 reloadingisnotahobby

I think...What are lox...?

Lox is cold-smoked salmon.

202 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:14:10pm

re: #201 eclectic infidel

Lox is cold-smoked salmon.

This article describes the different kinds of smoked salmon.

203 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:14:24pm

re: #199 reloadingisnotahobby

re: #194 Simply Sarah
I nailed him the next day wearing my Cabella's Sweater...walking down the road...they couldn't hold him!!
He did get the only firearm that wasn't in the safe!!

Not enough evidence, I assume?

204 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:14:28pm

re: #199 reloadingisnotahobby

re: #194 Simply Sarah
I nailed him the next day wearing my Cabella's Sweater...walking down the road...they couldn't hold him!!
He did get the only firearm that wasn't in the safe!!

they couldn't hold him?

205 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:15:33pm

re: #202 eclectic infidel

This article describes the different kinds of smoked salmon.

food, wonderful food!

206 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:19:09pm

re: #203 Simply Sarah

We'll see...

Talk about patience... I can see the thief from the
window...from this computer....less that 100 yard shot....

207 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:20:19pm

re: #206 reloadingisnotahobby

We'll see...

Talk about patience... I can see the thief from the
window...from this computer...less that 100 yard shot...

/great post... it provides motive & opportunity.

208 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:24:01pm

re: #204 brookly red

re: #203 Simply Sarah

I have a very high security level w/ the State...I will not jeopardize that for a gun...
But.....we have a lot more evidence since I did an inventory...
State lab will run my DNA on the sweater wow! they want this dirt bag bad!
That's a 1700.00 dollar lab cost!!?

209 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:25:20pm

re: #207 brookly red

LOL!!!
I may be 54 but I still got it...No weapon needed!!

210 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:26:31pm

re: #208 reloadingisnotahobby

re: #203 Simply Sarah

I have a very high security level w/ the State...I will not jeopardize that for a gun...
But...we have a lot more evidence since I did an inventory...
State lab will run my DNA on the sweater wow! they want this dirt bag bad!
That's a 1700.00 dollar lab cost!!?

excellent... and judges frown upon people who posses stolen firearms.

211 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:28:17pm

re: #204 brookly red

The Zippo Lighter and one off pocket knife (Anza) were on him..But I didn't know they were missing till yesterday am...a week later.

212 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:29:07pm

re: #208 reloadingisnotahobby

re: #203 Simply Sarah

I have a very high security level w/ the State...I will not jeopardize that for a gun...
But...we have a lot more evidence since I did an inventory...
State lab will run my DNA on the sweater wow! they want this dirt bag bad!
That's a 1700.00 dollar lab cost!!?

Well, good luck! I wonder if the fact that a firearm was stolen makes this a higher priority than most break-ins?

213 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:29:34pm

Congrats to Geller and Spenser for being listed in the SPLC annals of hate groups. They join the esteemed company of Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, anarchists, radical Christian theologists, black supremacists, racist skinheads, general haters, and anti Muslim groups nationwide.

Great company to keep - and totally deserving.

*shaking my head*

214 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:29:38pm

re: #211 reloadingisnotahobby

The Zippo Lighter and one off pocket knife (Anza) were on him..But I didn't know they were missing till yesterday am...a week later.

/they hang Zippo thieves don't they?

215 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:29:54pm

re: #207 brookly red

/great post... it provides motive & opportunity.


Nah!!

...Steady hand and trigger discipline...

216 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:30:18pm

re: #214 brookly red

/they hang Zippo thieves don't they?

Burned at the stake.

218 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:31:23pm

re: #216 b_sharp

Burned at the stake.

no thats witches...

219 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:31:34pm

re: #214 brookly red

That's funny you should say...I noticed something was wrong...my fresh pack of Camels was missing when I went into the shop at at 5 am....Doh!!

220 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:33:13pm

re: #219 reloadingisnotahobby

That's funny you should say...I noticed something was wrong...my fresh pack of Camels was missing when I went into the shop at at 5 am...Doh!!

well if you want to be a real prick you should send him some smokes in prison...

221 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:33:19pm

re: #188 reloadingisnotahobby

Well I've been AWOL for a few day because I DIDN'T lock a door!!!
I loved living here..still do ...Got Burglarized last Wed night!

That sucks.

222 Bear  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:34:42pm

Look at the bright side. By taking your Zippo he was just trying to help you quit smoking. //

223 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:35:56pm

re: #222 Bear

Look at the bright side. By taking your Zippo he was just trying to help you quit smoking. //

/now that is a liberal point of view...

224 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:36:04pm

this is what DIRTBAG STOLE!!
With LER scope....(Long Eye Relief)

[Link: www.taurususa.com...]

225 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:36:29pm

re: #218 brookly red

no thats witches...

And newts.

226 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:36:56pm
crewdog

(Logged in)
Registered since: Feb 28, 2005 at 8:19 am
No. of comments posted: 0
No. of Pages posted: 0

I am so impressed. Every time. Do they use the "Forgot your password?" link? Or has Firefox been saving it for six years?

227 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:37:25pm

re: #213 lawhawk

Congrats to Geller and Spenser for being listed in the SPLC annals of hate groups. They join the esteemed company of Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, anarchists, radical Christian theologists, black supremacists, racist skinheads, general haters, and anti Muslim groups nationwide.

Great company to keep - and totally deserving.

*shaking my head*

It takes a real concerted effort to break in. Many lesser hate groups go their whole careers without making it up into the big leagues. It's quite an accomplishment.

228 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:37:42pm

re: #225 b_sharp

I got better!!!

229 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:38:27pm

re: #226 wrenchwench

I am so impressed. Every time. Do they use the "Forgot your password?" link? Or has Firefox been saving it for six years?

Every login uses 1234.

230 Bear  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:38:52pm

And by taking the firearm he prevented it, from on its on, starting to shoot up the place. //

231 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:40:22pm

re: #222 Bear

Look at the bright side. By taking your Zippo he was just trying to help you quit smoking. //

re: #230 Bear

And by taking the firearm he prevented it, from on its on, starting to shoot up the place. //

*sigh* in NY a jury would probably go for that...

232 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:40:58pm

re: #220 brookly red

well if you want to be a real prick you should send him some smokes in prison...

SUPER SIZE CONDOMS.....That should make him feel better....

233 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:41:11pm

re: #229 Simply Sarah

Every login uses 1234.

Now I'm going to have to change mine...

//

234 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:41:52pm

re: #232 reloadingisnotahobby

SUPER SIZE CONDOMS...That should make him feel better...

no, you send those to his cell mate...

235 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:42:13pm

re: #233 wrenchwench

Now I'm going to have to change mine...

//

Try 4, 3, 2, 1. It works for me.

236 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:44:17pm

re: #226 wrenchwench

I am so impressed. Every time. Do they use the "Forgot your password?" link? Or has Firefox been saving it for six years?

You're on a roll today!

237 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:47:05pm

re: #226 wrenchwench

I am so impressed. Every time. Do they use the "Forgot your password?" link? Or has Firefox been saving it for six years?

now what is the secret word that activates the sleeper? I am going to guess, evolution?

238 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:48:12pm

re: #236 Floral Giraffe

You're on a roll today!

I feel like I should be on a roll...with some lettuce, tomato, and secret sauce. My brain is fried. I just spent an hour working up an estimate for a roof rack for a guy, called him with it, and he says, "Whoa, that much? I'm going to have to think about it..." I should have pulled a number out of the air instead of being diligent.

239 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:49:52pm

re: #238 wrenchwench

And that was AFTER spending an hour filling out state gross receipts tax forms.

240 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:51:21pm

re: #239 wrenchwench
...state...gross...tax...'nuf said..........

241 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:52:42pm

re: #239 wrenchwench

And that was AFTER spending an hour filling out state gross receipts tax forms.

YOU!! need a hug!!...or a twelve pack.... oops!

242 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:53:13pm

re: #238 wrenchwench

I feel like I should be on a roll...with some lettuce, tomato, and secret sauce.

Stop it. You are making me hungry.

I love secret sauce.

243 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:53:20pm

re: #239 wrenchwench

And that was AFTER spending an hour filling out state gross receipts tax forms.

they have a roof rack tax? damn.

244 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:53:49pm

New Irish Rubberbandits song:

245 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:54:09pm

re: #239 wrenchwench

And that was AFTER spending an hour filling out state gross receipts tax forms.

Tax receipt forms ARE gross!

246 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:54:14pm

re: #241 reloadingisnotahobby

YOU!! need a hug!!...or a twelve pack... oops!

hug & a 6 pack, split the difference...

247 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:56:03pm

re: #246 brookly red

You reminded me....I need to go grab a beer
and LOCK THE FUCKING SHOP!!!!

248 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:57:31pm

re: #247 reloadingisnotahobby

You reminded me...I need to go grab a beer
and LOCK THE FUCKING SHOP!!!

and consider get a shop dog... I am partial to pit bulls my self.

249 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:59:24pm

Libya's deputy UN Ambassador says that Khadafi's a madman.

Well, what took you so damned long to find your voice?

250 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 5:59:34pm

re: #213 lawhawk

Congrats to Geller and Spenser for being listed in the SPLC annals of hate groups. They join the esteemed company of Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, anarchists, radical Christian theologists, black supremacists, racist skinheads, general haters, and anti Muslim groups nationwide.

Great company to keep - and totally deserving.

*shaking my head*

And I'm proud to say that all of the above hate me to the point of obsession. Wouldn't have it any other way.

251 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:00:21pm

re: #249 lawhawk

Libya's deputy UN Ambassador says that Khadafi's a madman.


[Video]

Well, what took you so damned long to find your voice?

perhaps he needed to get his family out of country first?

252 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:00:50pm

re: #249 lawhawk

Libya's deputy UN Ambassador says that Khadafi's a madman.


[Video]Well, what took you so damned long to find your voice?

Khadafi's many guns pointed at his head.

I suspect that would steal many voices.

253 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:01:22pm

re: #251 brookly red
That is an excellent possibility

254 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:01:41pm

re: #251 brookly red

perhaps he needed to get his family out of country first?

Actually, the deputy ambassador defected quite early and has been calling for stronger outside involvement for several days, at least.

255 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:02:37pm

I think the Al Qaeda piglet lost one of his boots.

Image: 262bab21-2016-43b8-abf0-46cc37384069.jpg

OK, I'm going to take my hugs and go home.

Later, lizards.

256 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:03:18pm

re: #255 wrenchwench
LOL

257 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:03:44pm

re: #248 brookly red

Two Boxers...slept through the last wind storm,earth quake and the second coming of christ!
Bless their hearts...shit!//

258 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:03:46pm

re: #255 wrenchwench

I think the Al Qaeda piglet lost one of his boots.

Image: 262bab21-2016-43b8-abf0-46cc37384069.jpg

OK, I'm going to take my hugs and go home.

Later, lizards.

OMGcute

259 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:04:17pm

re: #250 Charles

And I'm proud to say that all of the above hate me to the point of obsession. Wouldn't have it any other way.

btw I bought an at&t phone today and interestingly enough the product shot on the package shows the name Charlie Johnson in the display window...

what is up with that?

260 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:04:52pm

re: #255 wrenchwench

Hug Hoe!! LOL///

261 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:04:54pm

Executive Order from President Obama for sanctions v. Gov't of Libya:

[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]

262 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:05:53pm

re: #257 reloadingisnotahobby

Two Boxers...slept through the last wind storm,earth quake and the second coming of christ!
Bless their hearts...shit!//

damn shame dogs don't get performance reviews...

263 zora  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:07:28pm

re: #257 reloadingisnotahobby

Two Boxers...slept through the last wind storm,earth quake and the second coming of christ!
Bless their hearts...shit!//

got a beagle. he barks and bays at everything.

264 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:07:38pm

re: #262 brookly red

Lower your voice...they are right here......LOL

265 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:08:47pm

re: #263 zora

Beagles are the boy that cried wolf!!
Smart as hell too!

266 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:09:43pm

re: #264 reloadingisnotahobby

Lower your voice...they are right here...LOL

Bad guy is lucky they didn't lick him to death.

Those 10" x 12" tongues are deadly.

267 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:10:58pm

re: #257 reloadingisnotahobby

LOL! Love boxers!

268 Bear  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:11:18pm

re: #257 reloadingisnotahobby

Years ago after getting a phone call telling me that I was going to be killed I gave some thought to getting a dog. I thought a Siberian Husky would be a good one but the breeder said to forget it. The Husky would not even bark at the garbage collectors!

269 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:11:53pm

re: #267 Floral Giraffe

LOL! Love boxers!

Me too.

270 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:13:48pm

re: #268 Bear

Years ago after getting a phone call telling me that I was going to be killed I gave some thought to getting a dog. I thought a Siberian Husky would be a good one but the breeder said to forget it. The Husky would not even bark at the garbage collectors!

Yeah, if you want a dog that will make a lot of noise, you want a lap dog. I mean, sure, that can't do anything to anyone older than the age of 2, probably, but boy will they make a racket.

271 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:13:51pm

re: #268 Bear
One of my neighbors had one many years ago. She barked at everything.

272 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:15:23pm

re: #268 Bear

Years ago after getting a phone call telling me that I was going to be killed I gave some thought to getting a dog. I thought a Siberian Husky would be a good one but the breeder said to forget it. The Husky would not even bark at the garbage collectors!

as I said I am partial to pit bulls... even if the dog is a complete wuss the reputation goes a long way.

273 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:16:49pm

Shepherds are good guard dogs, as are dobs. Any dog bred to protect livestock will make a decent guard.

274 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:17:56pm

re: #251 brookly red

Good point...

275 Querent  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:18:51pm

re: #61 Sergey Romanov

oh yeah... him...

276 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:19:36pm

re: #273 b_sharp

Shepherds are good guard dogs, as are dobs. Any dog bred to protect livestock will make a decent guard.

Great Danes make great baby sitters...

277 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:21:41pm

re: #276 brookly red

Great Danes make great baby sitters...

As long as they don't sit on the baby.

278 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:22:18pm

re: #273 b_sharp

Shepherds are good guard dogs, as are dobs. Any dog bred to protect livestock will make a decent guard.

My friends have two shepherds who are noise-makers whenever someone rings the doorbell or otherwise stirs them up. And one of the other usually sleeps just inside the front door of their house (the other sleeps in the main bed room.)

And then one day when I was visiting I just came right in since I was expected and didn't want to cause a stir. Opened the front door and walked in carrying a few packages. Dog just inside the front door looked up at me, wagged his tail, and then got up and followed me the rest of the way in.

I probably got away with that since the dogs knew me as friendly and had picked up my scent cleanly coming in. But I still put a little seed of doubt in his head.

279 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:22:23pm

re: #277 b_sharp

As long as they don't sit on the baby.

that could be an issue...

280 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:22:55pm

re: #276 brookly red

Great Danes make great baby sitters...

But using them as horses is frowned upon in this establishment...

;)

281 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:24:53pm

re: #278 oaktree

My friends have two shepherds who are noise-makers whenever someone rings the doorbell or otherwise stirs them up. And one of the other usually sleeps just inside the front door of their house (the other sleeps in the main bed room.)

And then one day when I was visiting I just came right in since I was expected and didn't want to cause a stir. Opened the front door and walked in carrying a few packages. Dog just inside the front door looked up at me, wagged his tail, and then got up and followed me the rest of the way in.

I probably got away with that since the dogs knew me as friendly and had picked up my scent cleanly coming in. But I still put a little seed of doubt in his head.

One of our shepherds got out of his pen and into the back yard. He let the meter reader into the yard but wouldn't let him back out.

My uncle, who was also a meter reader came to his rescue several hours later.

282 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:25:38pm

real estate secret: you can judge the safety of a neighborhood by they type of dogs the locals own.

283 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:26:57pm

re: #282 brookly red
hmm. My neighbor has a pit bull and a cat. What does that mean?

284 webevintage  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:27:33pm

My lab barks, licks the door and does this thing with the front of her mouth where she bares her teeth while sniffing and growling...it freaks people out.
The other dogs bark...a lot.

285 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:27:53pm

re: #283 PhillyPretzel

hmm. My neighbor has a pit bull and a cat. What does that mean?

I had a pitbull and a persian cat... they got along quite well.

286 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:28:27pm

re: #267 Floral Giraffe

LOL! Love boxers!

Buddy 3 years old and Emmett...4 months!
They are Hoot!!

287 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:28:38pm

re: #285 brookly red
Yes. I can see that. It is the same with my neighbors.

288 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:29:41pm

re: #213 lawhawk

Congrats to Geller and Spenser for being listed in the SPLC annals of hate groups. They join the esteemed company of Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, anarchists, radical Christian theologists, black supremacists, racist skinheads, general haters, and anti Muslim groups nationwide.

Great company to keep - and totally deserving.

*shaking my head*

And thank YOU for spelling "annals" correctly, and for not making a typo on that particular word . . .

289 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:30:49pm

I had a "trick" I taught my pit bull... she would roar & show her teeth if I used the command "scary puppy" ... It came in handy.

290 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:31:01pm

re: #287 PhillyPretzel

Yes. I can see that. It is the same with my neighbors.

That doesn't surprise me. Both are rather friendly and social breeds (Well, OK, most dog breeds are pretty friendly to some degree).

291 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:31:08pm

re: #283 PhillyPretzel

hmm. My neighbor has a pit bull and a cat. What does that mean?

The pit bull is saving the cat for a late night snack.

292 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:31:43pm

re: #288 reine.de.tout

And thank YOU for spelling "annals" correctly, and for not making a typo on that particular word . . .

Afraid he'd say "annas", huh?

293 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:32:13pm

re: #268 Bear

Years ago after getting a phone call telling me that I was going to be killed I gave some thought to getting a dog. I thought a Siberian Husky would be a good one but the breeder said to forget it. The Husky would not even bark at the garbage collectors!

Chihuahua/terrier mix.
Will bark at all strangers, even the ones going into the driveway across the street.
Will allow kids to pull ears and tail, pet him too hard, grab him, etc. (all the things kids do to dogs) with a smile.

294 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:32:13pm

re: #268 Bear

Years ago after getting a phone call telling me that I was going to be killed I gave some thought to getting a dog. I thought a Siberian Husky would be a good one but the breeder said to forget it. The Husky would not even bark at the garbage collectors!

You know my X ?? Small World!!/
The call ,not the Husky....

295 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:32:15pm

re: #291 b_sharp
I do not think so. The cat is a stalker.

296 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:32:39pm

re: #288 reine.de.tout

And thank YOU for spelling "annals" correctly, and for not making a typo on that particular word . . .

butt, what do you mean?

297 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:32:46pm

re: #292 Simply Sarah

Afraid he'd say "annas", huh?

heh.
um, yeah, sure, that's what I thought, yeah.

298 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:35:48pm

WHAT, did I kill the thread?
sheesh.

299 Boyo  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:35:49pm

re: #87 Charles

Oh yeah - that guy. Want to know why he was banned from LGF?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I just restored this comment - it was deleted shortly after he posted it and he was blocked.

its always creepy to see what comments got updings on this site not too long ago...

300 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:36:27pm

Raising a puppy with a kitten or adult cat is the only way
to keep the two from HATING dogs or cats ...?
It made sense when I typed it!!

301 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:36:51pm

re: #299 Boyo

its always creepy to see what comments got updings on this site not too long ago...

THAT particular one was only downdinged.

302 Boyo  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:37:37pm

re: #301 reine.de.tout

THAT particular one was only downdinged.

yes it did

303 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:38:04pm

re: #298 reine.de.tout

WHAT, did I kill the thread?
sheesh.

Yawn....What?
I'm waiting for the final episode of Gold Rush Alaska....
I know...I need a life!

304 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:39:03pm

re: #303 reloadingisnotahobby

Yawn...What?
I'm waiting for the final episode of Gold Rush Alaska...
I know...I need a life!

Me, I'm always on the lookout for a new episode of Dog the Bounty Hunter.

305 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:39:15pm

That same Shepherd, his name was Sinjin of Everly, killed several cats. We had neighbours who hated us and our dogs and would do their worst to trigger complaints against the barking. They would through cats into the pen and then phone the cops when Sin started barking. He grew to hate cats.

I grew to hate our neighbours.

306 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:39:44pm

re: #288 reine.de.tout

And thank YOU for spelling "annals" correctly, and for not making a typo on that particular word . . .

and by the power conferred upon be by our divine leader Gluteus Maximus, I declare this a pun thread!

307 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:40:23pm

re: #306 brookly red

and by the power conferred upon be by our divine leader Gluteus Maximus, I declare this a pun thread!

Wish I could join in, but damn, I'm just so slooooowwwwww. Tomorrow I'll think of the perfect thing. Always happens.

308 Querent  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:40:25pm

re: #306 brookly red

and by the power conferred upon be by our divine leader Gluteus Maximus, I declare this a pun thread!

That's awfully cheeky...

309 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:40:26pm

re: #306 brookly red

and by the power conferred upon be by our divine leader Gluteus Maximus, I declare this a pun thread!

NOOOooo!!!

310 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:40:36pm

re: #305 b_sharp

...I hate your neighbors...just sayin......

311 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:41:11pm

re: #278 oaktree

My friends have two shepherds who are noise-makers whenever someone rings the doorbell or otherwise stirs them up. And one of the other usually sleeps just inside the front door of their house (the other sleeps in the main bed room.)

And then one day when I was visiting I just came right in since I was expected and didn't want to cause a stir. Opened the front door and walked in carrying a few packages. Dog just inside the front door looked up at me, wagged his tail, and then got up and followed me the rest of the way in.

I probably got away with that since the dogs knew me as friendly and had picked up my scent cleanly coming in. But I still put a little seed of doubt in his head.

Shepherds are good at threat assessment. If they knew you, they probably realized you were allowed to come in.

If you'd tried to hurt anyone inside, you would have met a whole new shepherd.

312 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:41:14pm

What a difference a week makes.

Seven days ago I was just starting a 3-day vacation and was setting into a hotel in Venice, FL to spend a few days with family in a somewhat warmer clime. My office was a seat at a table in a workroom shared with 6-8 other people, and my equivalent to drawers was an old copier paper box.

Tonight I'm back in "sunny" Philadelphia watching it rain and be 40-something while my week-old sunburn itches. My office is now a low-wall cubicle in a very nicely laid-out office floor with a good lunchroom and a number of other amenities. Main downside is that anyone half a floor away can see what you're doing and I got a very straightforward warning from my boss to not blog comment during working hours.

:(

However, I also realize and recognize that I have things a hell of a lot better than all the lizards out there with employment issues.

313 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:41:16pm

re: #308 Querent

That's awfully cheeky...

get thee behind me!

314 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:41:53pm

re: #307 reine.de.tout

Wish I could join in, but damn, I'm just so slooowww. Tomorrow I'll think of the perfect thing. Always happens.

Just put your past behind you.

315 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:42:04pm

re: #305 b_sharp

That same Shepherd, his name was Sinjin of Everly, killed several cats. We had neighbours who hated us and our dogs and would do their worst to trigger complaints against the barking. They would through cats into the pen and then phone the cops when Sin started barking. He grew to hate cats.

I grew to hate our neighbours.

Your neighbors would throw cats in with the dog? Knowing the dog was going to go nuts over it and possibly kill the cats?

I really cannot stand cruel mean people.
Unbelievable.

316 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:44:09pm

re: #315 reine.de.tout

Your neighbors would throw cats in with the dog? Knowing the dog was going to go nuts over it and possibly kill the cats?

I really cannot stand cruel mean people.
Unbelievable.

Where the hell would they even get the cats? Would they, like, buy them from a pet store to toss in? Catch strays? Steal other people's pets? I don't know which of those options is worst, but they're all pretty sick.

317 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:44:24pm

re: #315 reine.de.tout

Your neighbors would throw cats in with the dog? Knowing the dog was going to go nuts over it and possibly kill the cats?

I really cannot stand cruel mean people.
Unbelievable.

Dog fights, Cock fights, Bull fights... people can suck some times.

318 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:44:30pm

re: #312 oaktree

:(
employment issues.

No shit!!!
I hate my job!!/// Kidding really!

319 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:44:56pm

Double rhapsody:
#1
A friend of mine form high school has started sending me cassette tapes he mostly recorded of the radio in Northern NJ in the mid to late 70's. We grew up in a suburb of NYC, perfectly located to grab the radio signals form Long Island, Northern NJ and NYC. WLIR, WNEW, WNYU, WFMU, Fordham's radio station, Rutger's etc etc. Steve spend many a night with his cassette deck capturing David Bromberg, Bruce Springsteen, Jimmy Cliff, Gil Scott-Heron, Ricky Ford and other NY young lions of hard bop and a shit load of soon to be legendary as well as soon to be forgotten players who spilled through the NYC area in the 70's. When I left Jersey in 1977, he had at least 2 dresser drawers full of cassette tapes. He just started sending me tapes to dump to digital and master using my high end A/D convertors.

Tonight I had the pleasure of a six pack of Mt. Carmel Amber Ale and listening to Sea Level live from My Fathers Place, a somewhat legendary club on Long Island. Sounds like a radio tape due to the compression, so it was probably broadcast over WLIR. If you've never heard of Sea Level, they were a band formed after the first break up of the Allman Brothers about 1976. Featuring Chuck Leavelle, Jaimoe and Lamar Williams of the Allman's and guitarist Jimmy Nalls, this version also had the incredible Randall Bramblett on sax and Davis Causey on guitar. Sea Level fused southern soul, rock and jazz with incomparable musicianship. This tape is un-fucking-real.

#2
I just scored center balcony tickets for the upcoming Elvis Costello tour. SCHWING@!

320 Querent  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:45:05pm

re: #313 brookly red

get thee behind me!

looks like your pun thread has bottomed out already...

321 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:45:28pm

re: #315 reine.de.tout

Your neighbors would throw cats in with the dog? Knowing the dog was going to go nuts over it and possibly kill the cats?

I really cannot stand cruel mean people.
Unbelievable.

Like most cheap expendable objects idiots come in a large variety of sizes and colors.

322 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:47:25pm

re: #316 Simply Sarah

Where the hell would they even get the cats? Would they, like, buy them from a pet store to toss in? Catch strays? Steal other people's pets? I don't know which of those options is worst, but they're all pretty sick.

I would guess strays - there are always a couple of feral cats about, it seems. We have 4 cats of our own and a couple that hang around and we feed them. And fix up a space in the carport attic with a a couple of boxes & old comforters so they can find a warm place in the winter. One of our four started out as one of those strays - skinny, all cut up - now she's fat and somehow, living inside. I don't know exactly when that happened.

323 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:47:32pm

re: #321 oaktree

Like most cheap expendable objects idiots come in a large variety of sizes and colors.

Kind of a wordy response...I'll FTFY BASTARDS!!

324 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:47:49pm

re: #298 reine.de.tout

WHAT, did I kill the thread?
sheesh.

No, we're just lurking!
*waves*

325 Querent  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:47:51pm

re: #316 Simply Sarah

Where the hell would they even get the cats? Would they, like, buy them from a pet store to toss in? Catch strays? Steal other people's pets? I don't know which of those options is worst, but they're all pretty sick.

Testing to see if cats really do have 9 lives...

(Derp x 10^9...)

326 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:48:04pm

re: #324 Floral Giraffe

No, we're just lurking!
*waves*

Hey {{FLO}}
*waves back*

327 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:48:05pm

re: #320 Querent

looks like your pun thread has bottomed out already...

never underestimate the power of an asshole.

328 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:48:14pm

re: #315 reine.de.tout

Your neighbors would throw cats in with the dog? Knowing the dog was going to go nuts over it and possibly kill the cats?

I really cannot stand cruel mean people.
Unbelievable.

Yes.
The mother lived 2 houses down north of us and the son, 3 or 4 houses south of us. I can't remember exactly, it was in the '70s.

My younger brother and I were drug using teenagers that played loud music. Once, just to piss them off, my drummer brother and I took our equipment outside on the front lawn, turned the amps up as loud as possible and played our version of 'Whole Lotta Love'.

Mom moved the kennel to an acreage 250kms away the next year.

329 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:48:27pm

re: #318 reloadingisnotahobby

No shit!!!
I hate my job!!/// Kidding really!

"I'm no good at being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy mixed up world. Someday you'll understand that."

;)

330 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:48:42pm

re: #319 Jeff In Ohio

I've got a Sea Level LP. Have fun seeing Elvis.

331 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:48:47pm

re: #306 brookly red

and by the power conferred upon be by our divine leader Gluteus Maximus, I declare this a pun thread!

It's ABSOLUTELY fabulous, in a gluteus maximus kind of way!

332 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:49:08pm

re: #327 brookly red

never underestimate the power of an asshole.

Um . . . really, Brookly, you don't need to be so hard on yourself . . .
/ / /

333 Querent  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:49:18pm

re: #327 brookly red

never underestimate the power of an asshole.

to make shit happen?

334 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:49:49pm

re: #333 Querent

to make shit happen?

butt I digress...

335 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:50:29pm

re: #330 prairiefire

I've got a Sea Level LP. Have fun seeing Elvis.

People with Sea Level LP's are a very small club.

336 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:51:06pm

re: #331 Floral Giraffe

It's ABSOLUTELY fabulous, in a gluteus maximus kind of way!

swim suit season is just around the corner :)

337 webevintage  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:51:49pm

re: #322 reine.de.tout

One of our four started out as one of those strays - skinny, all cut up - now she's fat and somehow, living inside. I don't know exactly when that happened.

Ninja cats...
One minute they are outside cats and the next thing you know they spend all day sleeping on your bed.

338 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:51:49pm

re: #335 Jeff In Ohio

People with Sea Level LP's are a very small club.

..That need elevating......

..Ok..I'm sorry!

339 darthstar  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:51:50pm

All this butt-talk...Did Rick Santorum become a lizard today?

340 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:51:52pm

re: #316 Simply Sarah

Where the hell would they even get the cats? Would they, like, buy them from a pet store to toss in? Catch strays? Steal other people's pets? I don't know which of those options is worst, but they're all pretty sick.

Who knows, cats ran around free at the time. We only know this because my younger brother's best friend watched them do it, and we found a dead cat in the pen several months later. I suspect all but one of the cats got away, the pen walls were only 6' tall and made of plywood.

341 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:52:07pm

So I"m out at Itunes looking for some new sounding new music that's you know... new...

seven out of the last ten songs I've sampled sound like mellowed down early '80's punk B sides and are so derivative I know what's going to play two bars before it does...

342 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:52:12pm

re: #328 b_sharp

Yes.
The mother lived 2 houses down north of us and the son, 3 or 4 houses south of us. I can't remember exactly, it was in the '70s.

My younger brother and I were drug using teenagers that played loud music. Once, just to piss them off, my drummer brother and I took our equipment outside on the front lawn, turned the amps up as loud as possible and played our version of 'Whole Lotta Love'.

Mom moved the kennel to an acreage 250kms away the next year.

I think this sub-thread explains why my brother wants 80+ acres of land to build his house on. Not only the seclusion of not being that close to neighbors (which he sort of has now), but the ability to sets things up so that he doesn't even see them in the distance.

343 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:52:41pm

re: #328 b_sharp

Yes.
The mother lived 2 houses down north of us and the son, 3 or 4 houses south of us. I can't remember exactly, it was in the '70s.

My younger brother and I were drug using teenagers that played loud music. Once, just to piss them off, my drummer brother and I took our equipment outside on the front lawn, turned the amps up as loud as possible and played our version of 'Whole Lotta Love'.

Mom moved the kennel to an acreage 250kms away the next year.

So, you were an aggravation.
It doesn't warrant somebody frightening/harming animals.

My mom would have killed me if I had aggravated the neighbors like that.

LITTLE DID I KNOW - My mom and the lady across the street decided once to deal with some particularly asshole-ish neighbors one Halloween, by getting a few dozen eggs and tossing them at the neighbors' house.

I was 55 YEARS OLD before I ever knew she did such a thing.

344 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:52:58pm

re: #336 brookly red

swim suit season is just around the corner :)

Holy CRAP!! Your right!!

..wait..I'm in Utah...//

345 darthstar  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:54:22pm

re: #342 oaktree

I think this sub-thread explains why my brother wants 80+ acres of land to build his house on. Not only the seclusion of not being that close to neighbors (which he sort of has now), but the ability to sets things up so that he doesn't even see them in the distance.

I grew up on 80 acres. Never had the sheriff show up at any of my older brothers' parties or mine until about 1983, when someone built a house on the hill across the gully and the sound carried...it also didn't help that people were out doing target practice with guns...that tends to make flatlanders who move to the country nervous.

346 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:54:23pm

re: #341 Thanos

Betteye Levette - Interpretations: The British Rock Songbook

If your a fan of soul, this CD will tear you inside out.

347 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:54:34pm

re: #336 brookly red

swim suit season is just around the corner :)

Oh, gawd, don't remind me!

348 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:54:42pm

re: #335 Jeff In Ohio

People with Sea Level LP's are a very small club.

That's the story of my life right there, dude.

349 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:54:45pm

re: #344 reloadingisnotahobby

Holy CRAP!! Your right!!

..wait..I'm in Utah...//

You have the Great Salt Lake, don't you?

350 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:55:33pm

re: #343 reine.de.tout

So, you were an aggravation.
It doesn't warrant somebody frightening/harming animals.

My mom would have killed me if I had aggravated the neighbors like that.

LITTLE DID I KNOW - My mom and the lady across the street decided once to deal with some particularly asshole-ish neighbors one Halloween, by getting a few dozen eggs and tossing them at the neighbors' house.

I was 55 YEARS OLD before I ever knew she did such a thing.

We were an aggravation after the fact.

351 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:55:51pm

re: #346 Jeff In Ohio

Thanks I'll give it a listen

352 webevintage  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:56:05pm

Pie.
Chocolate cookie crust, silky smooth chocolate mousse filling, strawberry glaze and strawberries topped with real whip cream.
nom nom nom

If you are ever in Little Rock, stop by Hunk-a-Pie and pick one up.

353 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:56:24pm

re: #317 brookly red

Dog fights, Cock fights, Bull fights... people can suck some times.

but then again, everyone loves a cat fight...

354 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:56:26pm

re: #350 b_sharp

We were an aggravation after the fact.

Ah, that does change things a bit.

355 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:57:17pm

re: #347 reine.de.tout

Do these Bermuda shorts make my twelve pack look bigger??

356 darthstar  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:57:21pm

re: #349 SanFranciscoZionist

You have the Great Salt Lake, don't you?

I think he's more worried about the revealing swimsuits
Image: me%20and%20juby.jpg

357 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:57:32pm

re: #337 webevintage
One of my neighbors cats attacked a standard poodle every time he went under a tree next to the house. Owner of poodle told us we should have the tree cut down so his dog would not be attacked.

358 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:58:09pm

re: #345 darthstar

I grew up on 80 acres. Never had the sheriff show up at any of my older brothers' parties or mine until about 1983, when someone built a house on the hill across the gully and the sound carried...it also didn't help that people were out doing target practice with guns...that tends to make flatlanders who move to the country nervous.

The acreage my mom moved to was 80 acres just outside of Saskatoon. That must be a common size.

359 webevintage  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:58:47pm

re: #357 PhillyPretzel

One of my neighbors cats attacked a standard poodle every time he went under a tree next to the house. Owner of poodle told us we should have the tree cut down so his dog would not be attacked.

hahahahahaha

360 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 6:59:15pm

re: #357 PhillyPretzel

One of my neighbors cats attacked a standard poodle every time he went under a tree next to the house. Owner of poodle told us we should have the tree cut down so his dog would not be attacked.

I...guess that's one way to deal with it?

361 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:00:11pm

re: #359 webevintage
Yes it is funny but true. Rusty the cat always attacked that poodle.

362 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:00:44pm

re: #356 darthstar

I think he's more worried about the revealing swimsuits
Image: me%20and%20juby.jpg

Those look comfy. I must get one.

BTW, can I put out a vote of thanks to the Mormon community, for manufacturing wedding dresses with sleeves? My search for a wedding dress was deeply complicated by the fact that strapless is apparently the name of the game for the decade, and there just wasn't no way.

There ALSO wasn't no way I was going to wear one of the high-necked retro-80s styles popular in the Chassidic communities.

Apparently, Mormons and I have similar ideas about modesty. Well, not the dresses for the Temple weddings. Those were a bit too much. But the other ones.

Eventually, I ended up with something from a local Jewish designer, but the Mormons were a much-needed break when I was losing my mind looking at one strapless dress after another.

363 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:00:53pm

re: #349 SanFranciscoZionist

You have the Great Salt Lake, don't you?

STINKING MUD HOLE OF HELL!!
We spend our summer weekends on a couple close lake w/ the boat....
By end of May I'm a tanned god ........Excuse me...it's time for my medication.....

364 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:00:57pm

re: #348 prairiefire

That's the story of my life right there, dude.

Ah, that sounds like a lament when it should be an exultation.

365 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:01:20pm

re: #357 PhillyPretzel

One of my neighbors cats attacked a standard poodle every time he went under a tree next to the house. Owner of poodle told us we should have the tree cut down so his dog would not be attacked.

A cat isn't going to do much to a standard poodle unless the hair was kept really short in a pet clip.

366 webevintage  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:01:31pm

re: #361 PhillyPretzel

Yes it is funny but true. Rusty the cat always attacked that poodle.

I wonder what the poodle did to the cat?
"Show me on the doll where the poodle touched you kitty..."

367 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:02:51pm

re: #366 webevintage

I wonder what the poodle did to the cat?
"Show me on the doll where the poodle touched you kitty..."

Your a twisted and sick person!!
I like that!!

368 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:03:10pm

re: #352 webevintage

Mmmm, will do.

369 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:04:11pm

re: #364 Jeff In Ohio

Ah, that sounds like a lament when it should be an exultation.

Heh, you are right. Letting my freak flag fly!!!!!!! : )

370 Querent  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:04:56pm

re: #362 SanFranciscoZionist

Congratulations -- both on getting married, and on finding a decent dress!

371 Simply Sarah  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:05:14pm

re: #362 SanFranciscoZionist

Wow, are things really that limited (I'm not quite ready to worry about one for myself yet, so I'm not exactly up on styles)? I'll admit to being a bit surprised at that. Maybe I'm just not trendy enough.

372 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:05:29pm

re: #366 webevintage

I wonder what the poodle did to the cat?
"Show me on the doll where the poodle touched you kitty..."

How is the "teenager who lives in your house?" My 13 year old read that post of yours and laughed and laughed.

373 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:05:41pm

re: #365 b_sharp
The poodle had very short hair.

374 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:06:47pm

re: #372 prairiefire

How is the "teenager who lives in your house?" My 13 year old read that post of yours and laughed and laughed.

children read this? oh #^@* ...

375 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:06:49pm

re: #366 webevintage
Rusty the cat feared nothing. He would climb down trees. He attacked other dogs too.

376 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:07:14pm

re: #374 brookly red

children read this? oh #^@* ...

Over my shoulder.

377 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:07:27pm

I am at the age where it would be a good idea
to start working out...
My will...
My meals so I can regulate rest room stops...
My weekly schedule so I don't forget my ...ah....

378 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:08:00pm

re: #375 PhillyPretzel

Rusty the cat feared nothing. He would climb down trees. He attacked other dogs too.

what happened to Rusty?

379 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:08:23pm

re: #369 prairiefire

Heh, you are right. Letting my freak flag fly!!! : )

:).
Believe me, I understand how hard it gets as we get older. I'll be 52 next month and I'm having a real hard time reconciling middle age with the overwhelming desire to get in the car and go go go and then eat mass quantities of mushrooms with a bunch of strangers.

Then again, I'll be hitting Merle Fest in April to help my sis at her booth, so opportunities do present.

380 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:08:26pm

re: #377 reloadingisnotahobby

I am at the age where it would be a good idea
to start working out...
My will...
My meals so I can regulate rest room stops...
My weekly schedule so I don't forget my ...ah...

LOL.

381 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:09:41pm

re: #376 prairiefire

Over my shoulder.

That should include a shoulder and/or neck rub.

382 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:09:43pm

Got "The Stare" from my "I'm not weird, I'm gifted" teenage niece this past weekend.

We were knee deep in the Peace River in Florida near Arcadia. Shoveling gravel from the river bottom and screening it to look for fossilized shark teeth and other interesting objects; (ray teeth, elephant teeth, horse teeth, pieces of bone, etc.) Part of a field trip by the Tampa Bay Fossil Club that my brother stumbled upon via the internet.

At some point during the work I commented to her -- "It's odd how all this stuff got here when it's less than 6000 years old!"

My niece was onto sarcasm by the time she was eight. Necessary as a survival mechanism with my brother and I about.

383 Interesting Times  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:09:56pm

O...M...G. I've driven on this highway so many times:

...though luckily not when the above incident took place. *shudder*

384 webevintage  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:10:29pm

re: #372 prairiefire

How is the "teenager who lives in your house?"

He is gone for another LARPing weekend.

385 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:11:39pm

re: #379 Jeff In Ohio

:).
Believe me, I understand how hard it gets as we get older. I'll be 52 next month and I'm having a real hard time reconciling middle age with the overwhelming desire to get in the car and go go go and then eat mass quantities of mushrooms with a bunch of strangers.

Then again, I'll be hitting Merle Fest in April to help my sis at her booth, so opportunities do present.

Image: tommy-chong-and-cheech-marin-2008-alma-awards-press-room-1D5mRw.jpg

386 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:11:46pm

re: #378 brookly red
He and his owners moved out and a person who owned a dog moved in. The dog feared going into the house. I told the new neighbor about the previous owner having a cat. She did not believe it until some other neighbors confirmed the story.

387 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:11:54pm

re: #357 PhillyPretzel

One of my neighbors cats attacked a standard poodle every time he went under a tree next to the house. Owner of poodle told us we should have the tree cut down so his dog would not be attacked.

In Utah the Deer ALWAYS get hit by cars right where the "DEER CROSSING"
sign is!
They should move that sign!!/

388 Jeff In Ohio  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:12:15pm

Shit...Black Crowes on the pBs. It's spilling Georgia all over this evening. I think I need an Otis Redding night cap.

389 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:14:00pm
390 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:15:05pm

re: #362 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sorry SFZ... I missed your wedding!!
I promise to go to the Post Office more than twice a month from now on!!
..LOL..Congratulations!!

391 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:17:14pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

392 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:20:12pm

re: #383 publicityStunted

Who the hell would name a place or person Milton??


...Beside Mom and Dad and my Grandparents of course...

393 Four More Beers  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:20:37pm

Here's a funny Beck defense piece from Red State. Actually, the comments are even better.

[Link: www.redstate.com...]

394 Four More Beers  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:21:47pm

One howler...

Good Piece!
annas Friday, February 25th at 2:25PM EST (link)
I have actually never found Beck to be wrong on anything–unless he apologized and said so. That is 100% more than I can say for any liberal, anywhere, anytime!

395 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:22:38pm

re: #387 reloadingisnotahobby

In Utah the Deer ALWAYS get hit by cars right where the "DEER CROSSING"
sign is!
They should move that sign!!/

In NY people alway get hit by cars right where the school crossing sign is... they should lock some M@^#&! 's up.

396 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:22:59pm

ok. Grinding up nuts for a desert you are trying to make with a coffee grinder? no. Just no.

397 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:23:04pm

re: #394 Kid A

One howler...

Good Piece!
annas Friday, February 25th at 2:25PM EST (link)
I have actually never found Beck to be wrong on anything–unless he apologized and said so. That is 100% more than I can say for any liberal, anywhere, anytime!

Talking about Jeff Beck right??

398 Querent  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:23:23pm

re: #393 Kid A

i know it's a waste of time to scan it with my Stupidioscope™... but it's just fun to watch the fuse banks explode.

yep, we're getting a pretty consistent MerrrgaDerp range off these comments...

399 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:24:44pm

This Beck??

400 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:24:49pm

re: #397 reloadingisnotahobby

Talking about Jeff Beck right??

what does Jeff Beck have to apologize for?

401 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:25:26pm
402 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:26:56pm

re: #399 reloadingisnotahobby

He's got a new album out on Itunes, new live version of Peter Gunn etc.

403 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:27:00pm

re: #394 Kid A

One howler...

Good Piece!
annas Friday, February 25th at 2:25PM EST (link)
I have actually never found Beck to be wrong on anything–unless he apologized and said so. That is 100% more than I can say for any liberal, anywhere, anytime!

don't worry Kid, like many great artists Beck won't be appreciated till he has been gone a long time... the world can be cruel to artists.

404 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:27:48pm

re: #400 brookly red

Absolutely nothing..........

405 b_Snark  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:28:41pm

G'night scaly Metazoans.

406 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:30:21pm

re: #402 Thanos

He's got a new album out on Itunes, new live version of Peter Gunn etc.

Saw him live with Johnny and Edgar Winters at the Swing Auditorium San Berdo..
Calif... 1977.....Wow

407 palomino  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:31:26pm

re: #394 Kid A

One howler...

Good Piece!
annas Friday, February 25th at 2:25PM EST (link)
I have actually never found Beck to be wrong on anything–unless he apologized and said so. That is 100% more than I can say for any liberal, anywhere, anytime!

Has Beck apologized for calling Obama a "racist with a deep seated hatred of white people?" Not that I'm aware of.

Then again the tea party commenter probably doesn't think Beck was wrong on that one.

408 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:32:58pm

Good night kids!!
...Clean up before you leave....

409 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:38:10pm

re: #403 brookly red

don't worry Kid, like many great artists Beck won't be appreciated till he has been gone a long time... the world can be cruel to artists.

Beck is only an artist in the same way Soviet propagandist Vladimir Posner was: He is an artist of lies and distortion.

410 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:41:18pm

re: #371 Simply Sarah

Wow, are things really that limited (I'm not quite ready to worry about one for myself yet, so I'm not exactly up on styles)? I'll admit to being a bit surprised at that. Maybe I'm just not trendy enough.

You just have to look around--there's all sorts of stuff out there.

411 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:47:18pm

some one just e-mailed me this...A "skit" from one of Red Skelton's 1969 T.V. shows...

[Link: media.causes.com...]

pretty cool, no?

412 jadespring  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 7:47:53pm

Gah, sometimes I really dislike people that I should like.


Just my random general vent of the evening.

413 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:05:04pm

Silence, of the lambs.
No one, anywhere.
Talking.

414 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:06:35pm

re: #413 Floral Giraffe

Silence, of the lambs.
No one, anywhere.
Talking.

Hi You! Winston is sleeping on my lap and I'm watching a really dumb movie...Forgive me Lawd

415 freetoken  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:06:40pm

If I'm reading this correctly, it looks like the snow will be all the way down to Santa Barbara by tomorrow morning:

[Link: www.weather.gov...]

Yikes!

416 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:08:39pm

I am so sick of snow and ice I could scream.

417 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:09:08pm

re: #415 freetoken

If I'm reading this correctly, it looks like the snow will be all the way down to Santa Barbara by tomorrow morning:

[Link: www.weather.gov...]

Yikes!

/it builds character

418 jaunte  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:10:36pm

re: #416 prairiefire

Just think of how nice and cool you'll still be when it's 100 degrees/95% humidity down here in a couple of months.

419 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:10:51pm

re: #390 reloadingisnotahobby

I'm sorry SFZ... I missed your wedding!!
I promise to go to the Post Office more than twice a month from now on!!
..LOL..Congratulations!!

It was three and a half years ago--I think you may be forgiven.

420 jadespring  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:11:28pm

Everyone gets updings....

Just cause I can. This offer will last for the next 5-10 mins.

421 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:11:41pm

re: #419 SanFranciscoZionist

It was three and a half years ago--I think you may be forgiven.

Oh, practically still a newlywed! Did you save any of the cake to eat?

422 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:11:48pm

re: #419 SanFranciscoZionist

It was three and a half years ago--I think you may be forgiven.

don't be so easy, guilt him into a nice gift ;)

423 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:12:18pm

re: #421 prairiefire

Oh, practically still a newlywed! Did you save any of the cake to eat?

FVB in 3...2...1...

424 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:12:32pm

re: #422 brookly red

don't be so easy, guilt him into a nice gift ;)

How long does the Target register stay open, anyway?

425 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:13:11pm

re: #424 prairiefire

How long does the Target register stay open, anyway?

till your last dime...

426 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:13:15pm

In retaliation, the SIOA has listed the SPLC as a hate group.

Take that, you liberal Islam loving queer commie traitors! Booya! We win!!

427 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:13:21pm

re: #420 jadespring

Everyone gets updings...

Just cause I can. This offer will last for the next 5-10 mins.

Yes, please.

428 freetoken  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:14:01pm

San Francisco is just too damn cold for me - otherwise the bay area would be a nice place to live.

429 prairiefire  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:14:35pm

re: #425 brookly red

till your last dime...

I have a small monthly allotment for Target and then I can't go in the store until the next month.

430 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:15:42pm

re: #428 freetoken

San Francisco is just too damn cold for me - otherwise the bay area would be a nice place to live.

"You will never spend a winter as cold as a summer in San Francisco."

Name that quote.

431 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:16:26pm

re: #429 prairiefire

I have a small monthly allotment for Target and then I can't go in the store until the next month.

I wish you could explain that to my congressman...

432 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:17:25pm

re: #430 austin_blue

"You will never spend a winter as cold as a summer in San Francisco."

Name that quote.


East bay
There is no there there..

Name that one

433 Firstinla  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:17:25pm

Our rain here is now turning to snow...big, big flakes. Supposed to get between six and twelve inches over night. Gonna be shut in tomorrow. I love sunny California./

434 freetoken  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:17:30pm

re: #430 austin_blue

Samuel Clemens?

435 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:17:31pm

re: #414 HoosierHoops

Hi You! Winston is sleeping on my lap and I'm watching a really dumb movie...Forgive me Lawd

*Nice place for Winston to be*
Lucky dawg....

436 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:17:47pm

re: #421 prairiefire

Oh, practically still a newlywed! Did you save any of the cake to eat?

Yes, although we didn't eat it in any particularly ritualistic way. More like--HEY! There's CAKE from the wedding in the freezer!

437 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:18:35pm

re: #426 austin_blue

In retaliation, the SIOA has listed the SPLC as a hate group.

Take that, you liberal Islam loving queer commie traitors! Booya! We win!!

Certain people on my local activist lists are reacting poorly to the whole thing.

438 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:18:37pm

re: #427 Dark_Falcon

Yes, please.

Film at 11!
Lucky upding recipients, adopt dogs, or something!

439 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:18:40pm

re: #428 freetoken

San Francisco is just too damn cold for me - otherwise the bay area would be a nice place to live.

It's tropical compared to Chicago in winter.

440 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:19:46pm

re: #430 austin_blue

"You will never spend a winter as cold as a summer in San Francisco."

Name that quote.

Supposedly Mark Twain's.

441 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:19:51pm

re: #437 SanFranciscoZionist

Certain people on my local activist lists are reacting poorly to the whole thing.

What are they doing spewing?

442 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:19:59pm

re: #432 HoosierHoops

East bay
There is no there there..

Name that one

Gertrude Stein!!

443 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:20:16pm

re: #437 SanFranciscoZionist

Certain people on my local activist lists are reacting poorly to the whole thing.

It is kinda like an awards show in reverse to me...

444 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:20:59pm

re: #432 HoosierHoops

East bay
There is no there there..

Name that one

No idea. I'll guess Herb Caen.

445 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:21:09pm

re: #427 Dark_Falcon

I'd rather go to the beach in the cold, than not have access to a beach.
Going to SF next week.
Hoops, Going to Sonoma!
WOOT!

446 Firstinla  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:21:10pm

re: #442 SanFranciscoZionist

Gertrude Stein!!

after eatng one of Alice's brownies?

447 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:21:17pm

re: #440 SanFranciscoZionist

Supposedly Mark Twain's.

/I don't think quoting him is legal anymore...

448 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:21:42pm

re: #439 Dark_Falcon

It's tropical compared to Chicago in winter.

I once interviewed a very elderly man--fought in the Austro-Hungarian army during WWI--who actually came out to San Francisco twice. The first time he got an apartment without heat, and at some point said, "What kind of tropical climate is this, my feet are falling off," and went back to New York.

Tried again a few years later, and that time it took.

449 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:22:06pm

re: #428 freetoken

San Francisco is just too damn cold for me - otherwise the bay area would be a nice place to live.

Fricking expensive. 30 % more than LA. And COLD. No Thanks!

450 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:22:14pm

re: #420 jadespring

Everyone gets updings...

Just cause I can. This offer will last for the next 5-10 mins.

Oh!
Me! Me! Please? Me!
I think I'm still within the 10 minutes.

451 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:22:30pm

re: #441 Dark_Falcon

What are they doing spewing?

They're basically nice people, so the worst thing that's been said is that SPLC should put itself on a list of hate groups.

That's the part I can't get. These are basically nice, sane people. What are they seeing in Geller?

452 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:23:03pm

re: #445 Floral Giraffe

I'd rather go to the beach in the cold, than not have access to a beach.
Going to SF next week.
Hoops, Going to Sonoma!
WOOT!

No way! The valley of the moon! I am so happy for you

453 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:23:32pm

re: #434 freetoken

Samuel Clemens?

Purportedly. I have found that October is a lovely month to visit the area. Maybe I've just been lucky.

454 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:24:58pm

re: #451 SanFranciscoZionist

They're basically nice people, so the worst thing that's been said is that SPLC should put itself on a list of hate groups.

That's the part I can't get. These are basically nice, sane people. What are they seeing in Geller?

well not to start a shit storm, but a lot of people are really concerned by the Muslim thing. Agree or not the numbers are there.

455 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:25:25pm

re: #450 reine.de.tout

Oh!
Me! Me! Please? Me!
I think I'm still within the 10 minutes.

You, I will upding, every post I see.

456 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:26:07pm
457 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:26:35pm

re: #452 HoosierHoops

Wish you were going too!
It'll be tons of fun!
Friends plotting in advance, already!

458 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:26:53pm

re: #451 SanFranciscoZionist

They're basically nice people, so the worst thing that's been said is that SPLC should put itself on a list of hate groups.

That's the part I can't get. These are basically nice, sane people. What are they seeing in Geller?

They see her fiercely fighting Islam, and they see Islam in general as a threat.

459 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:28:43pm

re: #450 reine.de.tout

Oh!
Me! Me! Please? Me!
I think I'm still within the 10 minutes.

Hey Reine! Is winter over? Waiting for the Bluebonnets, just as you are waiting for the Azaleas.

460 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:30:04pm

Mr. Katz, the WWI veteran, told an astonishing story about how he and a group of other POWs left Soviet custody. They'd been taken prisoner, and put to work on farms. Of course, all hell breaking loose in Russia at that point. At some point, a high-ranking Red officer came to town, and Mr. Katz decided to check in with him, so he introduced himself, explained that he was a POW from Hungary, and asked if there was any information on when he and his friends might be exchanged or released.

The man looked at him, and said, 'There are no prisoners of war.'

Mr. Katz said that, yes, obviously there were, and he was one, so...

The guy gave him a long, hard look and said, "Comrade Stalin has said, there are no prisoners of war."

That night, the prisoners were pulled together in a group by the men from the town, who gave them some food, and told them that they thought their army was thataway. They suggested that now would be a real good time to start walking.

They met up with the Austo-Hungarian forces a week later, just in time to come down with the flu--luckily, they were quarantined from the rest of the troops, because of fears that they might have been infected with Communism.

461 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:32:26pm

re: #457 Floral Giraffe

Wish you were going too!
It'll be tons of fun!
Friends plotting in advance, already!

20 minutes away from my home court in Napa Valley..
You will have a blast

462 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:33:02pm

re: #454 brookly red

well not to start a shit storm, but a lot of people are really concerned by the Muslim thing. Agree or not the numbers are there.

Not to start a shit storm back, but what's 'the Muslim thing'? If we're talking about international terrorism, I'm concerned. Mosques in Temecula, I'm more concerned about the shameless bigotry being displayed by shameless self-promoters.

463 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:33:16pm

re: #460 SanFranciscoZionist

Mr. Katz, the WWI veteran, told an astonishing story about how he and a group of other POWs left Soviet custody. They'd been taken prisoner, and put to work on farms. Of course, all hell breaking loose in Russia at that point. At some point, a high-ranking Red officer came to town, and Mr. Katz decided to check in with him, so he introduced himself, explained that he was a POW from Hungary, and asked if there was any information on when he and his friends might be exchanged or released.

The man looked at him, and said, 'There are no prisoners of war.'

Mr. Katz said that, yes, obviously there were, and he was one, so...

The guy gave him a long, hard look and said, "Comrade Stalin has said, there are no prisoners of war."

That night, the prisoners were pulled together in a group by the men from the town, who gave them some food, and told them that they thought their army was thataway. They suggested that now would be a real good time to start walking.

They met up with the Austo-Hungarian forces a week later, just in time to come down with the flu--luckily, they were quarantined from the rest of the troops, because of fears that they might have been infected with Communism.

Anheuser Busch makes an anti commie vaccine... hic!

464 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:34:16pm

re: #462 SanFranciscoZionist

Not to start a shit storm back, but what's 'the Muslim thing'? If we're talking about international terrorism, I'm concerned. Mosques in Temecula, I'm more concerned about the shameless bigotry being displayed by shameless self-promoters.

it is all the same to many... you asked I told.

465 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:34:54pm

re: #464 brookly red

it is all the same to many... you asked I told.

It is. I just find that disturbing as hell.

466 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:35:11pm

re: #456 MikeySDCA

While Berlin Burns: The Diary of Hans-Georg von Studnitz, 1939-1945 London: Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1964. p. 230 (Berlin, December 20, 1944)

Who the hell are you? Do you contribute to the conversation here or are you just a wingnut who drops conservative tropes into the site? I mean, just look at your recent posts! This is a community. If you aren't part of the conversation, you don't need to post here. You might as well be posting EXTEND YOUR PENIS BY FOUR INCHES!!!

467 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:35:56pm

re: #461 HoosierHoops

20 minutes away from my home court in Napa Valley..
You will have a blast

It's going to SNOW!
YIKES!
And thats cold white wet stuff!
LOL!
It'll be fun.
Linky for you!
Orchid Nerding!
[Link: www.orchidsanfrancisco.org...]

468 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:36:42pm

The humble smelt is a damn fine fish. Very delicious.
Served with Quinoa and collard greens.

469 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:36:46pm

re: #456 MikeySDCA

While Berlin Burns: The Diary of Hans-Georg von Studnitz, 1939-1945 London: Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1964. p. 230 (Berlin, December 20, 1944)

Huh?

470 jaunte  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:36:59pm

re: #466 austin_blue

It was fairly random, quoting from the Witty diary of a Nazi spin-doctor, as the (sole) Amazon review had it.

471 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:37:27pm

re: #468 Killgore Trout

The humble smelt is a damn fine fish. Very delicious.
Served with Quinoa and collard greens.

and smelt roe rocks...

472 Kragar  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:38:35pm

A moral victory, I finally got my buddy to accept that the movie "Event Horizon" is set in the 40k universe.

473 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:38:52pm

re: #468 Killgore Trout

The humble smelt is a damn fine fish. Very delicious.
Served with Quinoa and collard greens.

I like a man who cooks!
Even if it's smelt!
///

474 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:40:00pm

re: #473 Floral Giraffe

I like a man who cooks!
Even if it's smelt!
///

never met a fish I didn't like...

475 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:40:54pm

re: #472 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

A moral victory, I finally got my buddy to accept that the movie "Event Horizon" is set in the 40k universe.

Given the shape of the ship and how its jump drive is supposed to work, I always thought it worked on Battletech universe principals.

476 freetoken  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:41:44pm

The NYT states it simply:

The War on Women

477 brookly red  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:41:51pm

gonna polish off the lox now... night y'all

478 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:42:34pm

re: #468 Killgore Trout

The humble smelt is a damn fine fish. Very delicious.
Served with Quinoa and collard greens.

Actually, in the Upper Peninsula (UP) of Michigan, the smelt run is a right of passage. You get out in the streams (cooooold!!) when they swim upstream to spawn, and the first fish one nets must have its head bitten off by the catcher before it is finger-gutted and thrown in to the fat fryer.

Damn good eatin'!

479 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:42:54pm

re: #468 Killgore Trout

The humble smelt is a damn fine fish. Very delicious.
Served with Quinoa and collard greens.

Ah, smelt. I could do with a good fish boil.

480 Kragar  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:45:22pm

re: #475 Dark_Falcon

Given the shape of the ship and how its jump drive is supposed to work, I always thought it worked on Battletech universe principals.

Nope. It fits the classic definition of a space hulk entering the warp without a properly shielded drive system and without a navigator. The original crew were directly exposed to the warp, a daemon used it to re-enter realspace, and proceeded to corrupt or kill the rescue party.

481 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:47:59pm

re: #476 freetoken

The NYT states it simply:

The War on Women

Of course, I am shocked (Shocked!!) by this. If I didn't didn't know better, I could imagine a situation where the Rs would go after black people, brown people, and the poor.
/eleventy/

482 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:49:36pm

Seriously, is there a minority in this nation that the GOP has not declared war upon?

483 Kragar  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:50:29pm

re: #482 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Seriously, is there a minority in this nation that the GOP has not declared war upon?

Conservative White male billionaires

484 jaunte  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:50:34pm

re: #482 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Millionaires.

485 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:50:56pm

re: #476 freetoken

The NYT states it simply:

The War on Women

Simple, but wrong. But this round of budget fights is bringing everyone back to type. Conservatives band together to fight for fiscal discipline, while the New York Times goes back to smearing them. Call it Welcome Back To Normal Times.

486 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:51:14pm

re: #483 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Conservative White male billionaires

re: #484 jaunte

Millionaires.

Touche.

487 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:51:31pm

re: #482 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Seriously, is there a minority in this nation that the GOP has not declared war upon?

Those earning hundreds of thousands and higher. Duh.

488 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:52:09pm

re: #480 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Nope. It fits the classic definition of a space hulk entering the warp without a properly shielded drive system and without a navigator. The original crew were directly exposed to the warp, a daemon used it to re-enter realspace, and proceeded to corrupt or kill the rescue party.

LOL!
Space hulk!

489 Kragar  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:54:49pm

re: #488 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
Space hulk!

Space Hulk

A Space Hulk is a massive conglomeration of lost ships and wrecks fused together. They drift in and out of the warp through space and during the millennia the lost ships join together into one enormous body. Many times they are so huge that they have their own atmosphere and gravity. Since the hulks often exit and re-enter the warp seemingly at random, searching or traveling in them is dangerous in the extreme.

The Imperial Navy, and all Imperial forces and authorities as a whole, have standard orders to survey such objects and to report their location. The hulks consist of ships and items of technology millennia old, and the recoverable technology can be of immense value to the Imperium, and especially to the Adeptus Mechanicus. Thus elite Imperial forces are sent aboard to clear out infestations. Depending on the strategic situation (availability of troops, proximity to vital Imperial star systems, safety margins, etc) Space Marines are sent to purge the hulk of any alien infestations.

490 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 8:57:46pm

re: #489 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Space Hulk

Sounds like an interesting setting for a Battlefleet Gothic engagement, or an infantry battle, with the Space marines boarding the hulk, only to find their Chaos Marine opposite numbers already there.

491 Kragar  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:00:19pm

re: #490 Dark_Falcon

Sounds like an interesting setting for a Battlefleet Gothic engagement, or an infantry battle, with the Space marines boarding the hulk, only to find their Chaos Marine opposite numbers already there.

They got a whole offshoot game based on them, plus they've published optional rules in the regular game.

492 freetoken  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:00:26pm

re: #485 Dark_Falcon

Simple, but wrong. But this round of budget fights is bringing everyone back to type. Conservatives band together to fight for fiscal discipline, while the New York Times goes back to smearing them. Call it Welcome Back To Normal Times.

Sorry, but no.

I was watching many hours of the House hearings.

Of the thousands and thousands of possible areas of gov't expenditures, and of the billions and billions (even trillions) of dollars spent, what did the GOP reps, amendment after amendment, offer and discuss?

Exactly what the NYT piece opined: an ideological war, and one targeted mostly at women.

A handful of programs whose costs measure in the mere millions and whose effects concentrated on women - that is what the GOP offered as your "fiscal discipline."

493 Targetpractice  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:01:20pm

re: #492 freetoken

Sorry, but no.

I was watching many hours of the House hearings.

Of the thousands and thousands of possible areas of gov't expenditures, and of the billions and billions (even trillions) of dollars spent, what did the GOP reps, amendment after amendment, offer and discuss?

Exactly what the NYT piece opined: an ideological war, and one targeted mostly at women.

A handful of programs whose costs measure in the mere millions and whose effects concentrated on women - that is what the GOP offered as your "fiscal discipline."

Hey, they kept funding going to NASCAR! What are you so unhappy about?!

///

494 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:02:50pm

re: #485 Dark_Falcon

Simple, but wrong. But this round of budget fights is bringing everyone back to type. Conservatives band together to fight for fiscal discipline, while the New York Times goes back to smearing them. Call it Welcome Back To Normal Times.

Fiscal discipline? The last president who balanced a budget was Bill Fucking Clinton. Don't even *think* of mentioning "Conservatives" and "fiscal discipline" since 2000.

You don't fight wars without raising taxes to pay for it. Ever. It's just rock dumb.

You don't give profit driven financial institutions free control over "financial instruments". Ever. It's rock dumb.

You will notice that the Canadian dollar is now worth more than the American dollar. Historically, it's been worth about 80 cents. Know why?

The Canadian banking regs prevented their banks from speculating or investing in the crap that American banks created and sold, causing the present financial crisis. The Canucks are sitting pretty. Oh, and they aren't being bankrupted by their health care and entitlement systems.

Fancy that.

495 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:03:10pm

I see the Stalkers are busy hating on Gus and Alouette tonight. Dorkus just used Twitter to sent out some more hatemail. "Mommy, Daddy, I Hate You! Pay attention to me!"

[waves to the Stalkers]

496 Girth  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:04:54pm

Good evening everyone.

I know that I lurk more than I post and when I do it is quite frequently a smart-ass remark of some kind, but tonight I need to be serious for a moment.

My grandmother is rapidly reaching the end of her 87 year long journey. She was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer three weeks ago, and this morning we put her into hospice care and signed her Do Not Resuscitate orders. She has been in severe pain for the last couple of days, but now that hospice is involved they have put her on stronger pain management medication and she has been sleeping comfortably since late this afternoon. She is able to relax now and I no longer see the look of pain that has until now refused to leave her face, even while she slept. I believe that she will be gone within 3-4 days, although it could be even sooner.

Right up until the time she entered the hospital three weeks ago she was a lovely, active and vibrant woman. I can relate her strength with one sentence: She was a World War II widow who raised two daughters as a single mother through the Fifties and Sixties. Let that sink in and think about how difficult that must have been.

There is nothing more important to her than her two daughters, four grandchildren, and two great-granddaughters. She is surrounded by the ones she loves and who love her. Yesterday I was able to have some heart-wrenching but wonderful private time with her and I will try to repay a small part of my debt to her for everything she has done for me over the years by being with her until the end.

If you're so inclined, pray that her pain has finally ended and that she finds her way swiftly to her Lord.

Apologies for long-windedness and for being a buzzkill, but it was cathartic to write.

497 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:05:28pm

re: #491 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

They got a whole offshoot game based on them, plus they've published optional rules in the regular game.

I know Battlefleet Gothic is an offshoot game. I was think more about a 40K fought at close quarters where tanks a vehicles have little place. Just not-evil Space Marines versus very-evil Space Marines.

498 Kragar  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:07:13pm

re: #497 Dark_Falcon

I know Battlefleet Gothic is an offshoot game. I was think more about a 40K fought at close quarters where tanks a vehicles have little place. Just not-evil Space Marines versus very-evil Space Marines.

Space Hulk (Board Game)

Space Hulk is a two player board game by Games Workshop which has been released in three editions, the most recent being the 3rd Edition released in 2009. Set in the Warhammer 40,000 universe, the game takes place on a Space Hulk and pits a boarding force of Space Marine Terminators against a brood of Genestealers.

499 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:08:55pm

re: #496 Girth

Good evening everyone.

I know that I lurk more than I post and when I do it is quite frequently a smart-ass remark of some kind, but tonight I need to be serious for a moment.

My grandmother is rapidly reaching the end of her 87 year long journey. She was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer three weeks ago, and this morning we put her into hospice care and signed her Do Not Resuscitate orders. She has been in severe pain for the last couple of days, but now that hospice is involved they have put her on stronger pain management medication and she has been sleeping comfortably since late this afternoon. She is able to relax now and I no longer see the look of pain that has until now refused to leave her face, even while she slept. I believe that she will be gone within 3-4 days, although it could be even sooner.

Right up until the time she entered the hospital three weeks ago she was a lovely, active and vibrant woman. I can relate her strength with one sentence: She was a World War II widow who raised two daughters as a single mother through the Fifties and Sixties. Let that sink in and think about how difficult that must have been.

There is nothing more important to her than her two daughters, four grandchildren, and two great-granddaughters. She is surrounded by the ones she loves and who love her. Yesterday I was able to have some heart-wrenching but wonderful private time with her and I will try to repay a small part of my debt to her for everything she has done for me over the years by being with her until the end.

If you're so inclined, pray that her pain has finally ended and that she finds her way swiftly to her Lord.

Apologies for long-windedness and for being a buzzkill, but it was cathartic to write.

I will pray for her and for your family.

Much love.

500 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:09:00pm

re: #496 Girth

Good evening everyone.

I know that I lurk more than I post and when I do it is quite frequently a smart-ass remark of some kind, but tonight I need to be serious for a moment.

My grandmother is rapidly reaching the end of her 87 year long journey. She was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer three weeks ago, and this morning we put her into hospice care and signed her Do Not Resuscitate orders. She has been in severe pain for the last couple of days, but now that hospice is involved they have put her on stronger pain management medication and she has been sleeping comfortably since late this afternoon. She is able to relax now and I no longer see the look of pain that has until now refused to leave her face, even while she slept. I believe that she will be gone within 3-4 days, although it could be even sooner.

Right up until the time she entered the hospital three weeks ago she was a lovely, active and vibrant woman. I can relate her strength with one sentence: She was a World War II widow who raised two daughters as a single mother through the Fifties and Sixties. Let that sink in and think about how difficult that must have been.

There is nothing more important to her than her two daughters, four grandchildren, and two great-granddaughters. She is surrounded by the ones she loves and who love her. Yesterday I was able to have some heart-wrenching but wonderful private time with her and I will try to repay a small part of my debt to her for everything she has done for me over the years by being with her until the end.

If you're so inclined, pray that her pain has finally ended and that she finds her way swiftly to her Lord.

Apologies for long-windedness and for being a buzzkill, but it was cathartic to write.

Do not ever apologize for something like like this.

{{Girth}}

Those are hugs for you. For your grandmother, peace, release, and a hearty farewell wherever her journey takes her.

501 blueraven  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:12:46pm

re: #135 Thanos

If you get a chance please help out by flagging this video as a hate video at youtube. *** WARNING THIS IS HATE GROUP YOUTUBE CHANNEL. ***

[Video]
IT's from the white Supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens and furthers the "White women are being raped in Malmo" agitprop of the SIOE crowd.

re: #485 Dark_Falcon

Simple, but wrong. But this round of budget fights is bringing everyone back to type. Conservatives band together to fight for fiscal discipline, while the New York Times goes back to smearing them. Call it Welcome Back To Normal Times.

Where have yo been the last few weeks? Please.

502 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:13:52pm

re: #452 HoosierHoops

May you dream of Sonoma.
And, She is waiting for you.
Goodnight, sleep tight,

503 blueraven  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:14:34pm

re: #501 blueraven

oops forgot I was going to reply to Thanos earlier. Good job getting that video pulled!

504 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:16:09pm

re: #496 Girth

Bless you and her extended family for the love that you share. Share it well, while you can, and be loving. All is well.

505 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:17:58pm

How to post to a reader that is not, now a poster?
I wish you well.
Can you PLEASE turn up the thermostat?
*smooch*
Hope you are feeling well.

506 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:21:42pm

re: #473 Floral Giraffe
Hi Floral,
Just thinking about your little beauties...
I'm starting to wonder if they over sold the snow. I was just up Little Tujunga canyon, 1700 feet. The temperature was about 48-50. That will take a big drop to get snow, which last occurred there in 1949. I think we might get a big dry cold, rather than snow.

507 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:23:29pm

re: #496 Girth

She's an awesome lady, and you're an awesome lady for supporting her wishes.
Be well. Have peace, both of you.
Life was and is good.
Bless you both.

508 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:24:45pm

T-O-A-S-T!
Goodnight all.

509 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:24:58pm

Epic on so many levels....
George Mason Green Machine plays Rage

510 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:25:02pm

re: #498 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Space Hulk (Board Game)

Cool, I hadn't known about that.

511 What, me worry?  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:29:41pm

re: #496 Girth

These are the most difficult times, but the greatest thing you and your family can do is be there with your grandmother as much as you can. There is no greater gift than to give comfort to those who are sick. None of the rest of the stuff means as much.

{{{girth}}}

512 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:30:29pm

Bulls On Parade

513 austin_blue  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:36:29pm

Okay, folks, I am out of here. Craig Ferguson is up and I need some some silly humor. The Texas budget is a black hole and the cuts to State funding could be disastrous to my organization (which does emergency response work).

Go figure. We keep shit from blowing up. Apparently, the attitude is "nothing to see here"...

Dumb, dumb, and even more dumb. Hope ya'll like Rick Perry as a Presidential candidate in 2012.

Sweet dreams, my dear lizards. Be well.

514 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:37:44pm

Crackdowns overnight in Egypt… by the Army! Apparently conspiring with Police, counter-revolution momentum.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
[Link: twitter.com...]
[Link: twitter.com...]
[Link: www.arabawy.org...]
[Link: www.arabawy.org...]

515 Big Joe Ghazi  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:37:44pm

re: #513 austin_blue

Okay, folks, I am out of here. Craig Ferguson is up and I need some some silly humor. The Texas budget is a black hole and the cuts to State funding could be disastrous to my organization (which does emergency response work).

Go figure. We keep shit from blowing up. Apparently, the attitude is "nothing to see here"...

Dumb, dumb, and even more dumb. Hope ya'll like Rick Perry as a Presidential candidate in 2012.

Sweet dreams, my dear lizards. Be well.

I understand. I work for local government in CA.

516 What, me worry?  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:42:20pm

re: #514 000G

Crackdowns overnight in Egypt… by the Army! Apparently conspiring with Police, counter-revolution momentum.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
[Link: twitter.com...]
[Link: twitter.com...]
[Link: www.arabawy.org...]
[Link: www.arabawy.org...]

I wonder if the Qaddafi incident had any influence. Who is running the show in Egypt now?

517 freetoken  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:45:39pm
518 What, me worry?  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:47:18pm

re: #517 freetoken

Not unlike herpes:

Angle: Tea Party movement is here to stay

lol At least you can control the outbreak of herpes.

519 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:47:21pm

Time for me to hit the sack. Goodnight, all.

520 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 9:48:20pm

re: #516 marjoriemoon

I wonder if the Qaddafi incident had any influence. Who is running the show in Egypt now?

Supreme Council of the Armed Forces

521 freetoken  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 10:08:22pm

Time for the Creationism update:

Some days ago I posted about the Chicago area school district whose board president and one other candidate came out in support of teaching creationism in their district.

Well, we're back in Chicago-land, and to another district:

All four Dist. 95 candidates back teaching creationism in science classes

All four candidates for the Lake Zurich Unit District 95 school board believe creationism should be taught alongside evolution in science classes.

One, Chris Wallace, went so far as to say creationism is fact and evolution is just a theory.

[...]

Three of the candidates — Jim Burke, Doug Goldberg and Tony Pietro — are incumbents seeking additional four-year terms on the board. Wallace is a political newcomer.

[...]

Opponents of the public-school teaching of creationism point to a 1987 U.S. Supreme Court ruling barring creationism from science classes because it would serve as an endorsement of religion or a particular religious belief.

Other groups, including the Carol Stream-based Illinois Family Institute, support creationism’s introduction in school as a way to present both sides of an argument.
Pietro believes creationism should be taught in science class to give students “as much information as possible” about the origins of life. [TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!!]

“I think we can say this is a theory,” he said Thursday. “None of us were here when man was created.”
When the court rulings on the issue were mentioned, Pietro didn’t waver.

“When we teach (it), we need to say this is a theory,” he said.

Wallace took an even stronger stance on the issue.
“Creationism to me is factual,” he said. “Darwinism is a theory.”

As for court rulings against teaching creationism in science classes, Wallace said people must work within the law or change it.

Goldberg also emphatically supported adding creationism to the science curriculum.
“I’m a good, God-fearing American and the answer is ‘Yes,’” he said. “Clearly, religion in general is a big part of our daily lives as Americans. I believe that allowing a student to be exposed to the theory of creationism is a relevant and reasonable thing to do.”

Goldberg said he “hadn’t studied the legal ramifications” of the issue.

Burke also said “yes,” but not as enthusiastically as the other candidates. He acknowledged scientific evidence supports evolution.

“It’s not a belief, it’s proven fact,” Burke said. “I would hate to see the line between those two things blurred.”
If teaching creationism in science classes is unconstitutional, officials shouldn’t try to get around the law, he added.

[...]

Creationism is alive and well in the hinterlands. That's why Angle is following around that latest creationist movie, to all the first 4 primary/caucus states.

522 What, me worry?  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 10:08:33pm

re: #520 000G

Supreme Council of the Armed Forces

I know the army is in temporary control, but that's kinda frightening isn't it? What of the top brass? This guy, Field Marshal Mohamed Hussein Tantawi.

Tantawi, who is of Nubian origin[4][5], received his commission as a military officer on 1 April 1956 serving in the infantry. He took part in the Sinai War of 1956, the Six-Day War of 1967 and the Yom Kippur War of 1973, all against Israel. He held various commands and was assigned as military attaché to Pakistan. Tantawi has served as Commander of the Presidential Guard and Chief of the Operations Authority of the Armed Forces. In 1990/1991 he also took part in the Gulf War against Iraq.

On 20 May 1991, following the dismissal of Lt. General Youssef Sabri Abu Taleb[6], Tantawi was appointed as Minister of Defense and Military Production and commander-in-chief of the Egyptian Armed Forces. He was also appointed as Field Marshal. It is believed that Tantawi would have succeeded Mubarak as president of Egypt, had the assassination attempt in June 1995 been successful.[7] Early in 2011, Tantawi was seen as a possible contender for the Egyptian presidency.[8] Amidst the 2011 Egyptian protests, Tantawi was promoted to the ministerial rank of Deputy Prime Minister, while retaining the defense portfolio, on 31 January 2011.

On 11 February 2011 when President Hosni Mubarak resigned, after 18 days of protests from the Egyptian people, he transferred authority to the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, headed by Tantawi. The council will rule with the Chairman of the Supreme Constitutional Court, Farouk Sultan, and dissolve the Egyptian parliament.[9]

523 What, me worry?  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 10:16:02pm

re: #521 freetoken

I guess the most obvious question is how can someone be a school board member and not be familiar with constitutional laws surrounding what can and cannot be taught in school?

524 Kragar  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 10:17:48pm

re: #521 freetoken

What a bunch of fucking idiots.

525 freetoken  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 10:19:08pm

re: #523 marjoriemoon

... how can someone be a school board member and not be familiar with constitutional laws surrounding what can and cannot be taught in school?

Knowledge of the law, the Constitution, or science is not a prerequisite for getting elected to a school board.

526 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 10:19:36pm

Couldn't have happened to a more charming person.

527 What, me worry?  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 10:25:38pm

re: #525 freetoken

Knowledge of the law, the Constitution, or science is not a prerequisite for getting elected to a school board.

Not even when it relates to education? I guess I just assumed.

528 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 10:30:59pm

re: #522 marjoriemoon

It was to be expected. Of course the powerful and wealthy Army elite that was part of the Mubarak regime in many ways is not going down without a fight. The question seems to be how much they are willing and able to run the country now, especially considering the massive ongoing labor strikes, and also considering that the protestors can still throw a lot of monkey wrenches into their machine until the scheduled election in September…

529 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Feb 25, 2011 10:32:59pm

Maybe I shouldn't share this but I want to for the heck of it. I am on a pro-Israel mailing list and I posted about this article and here's what one Zionist had to say:

I do not agree at all. Pamela Geller makes mistakes in judgment but she does excellent work also. SPLC should put itself on its hate list

Yeah. Really. Mind you, this is a person who is on the far left of things, but when it comes to Islam...

530 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 26, 2011 2:24:34pm

re: #496 Girth

Good evening everyone.

I know that I lurk more than I post and when I do it is quite frequently a smart-ass remark of some kind, but tonight I need to be serious for a moment.

My grandmother is rapidly reaching the end of her 87 year long journey. She was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer three weeks ago, and this morning we put her into hospice care and signed her Do Not Resuscitate orders. She has been in severe pain for the last couple of days, but now that hospice is involved they have put her on stronger pain management medication and she has been sleeping comfortably since late this afternoon. She is able to relax now and I no longer see the look of pain that has until now refused to leave her face, even while she slept. I believe that she will be gone within 3-4 days, although it could be even sooner.

Right up until the time she entered the hospital three weeks ago she was a lovely, active and vibrant woman. I can relate her strength with one sentence: She was a World War II widow who raised two daughters as a single mother through the Fifties and Sixties. Let that sink in and think about how difficult that must have been.

There is nothing more important to her than her two daughters, four grandchildren, and two great-granddaughters. She is surrounded by the ones she loves and who love her. Yesterday I was able to have some heart-wrenching but wonderful private time with her and I will try to repay a small part of my debt to her for everything she has done for me over the years by being with her until the end.

If you're so inclined, pray that her pain has finally ended and that she finds her way swiftly to her Lord.

Apologies for long-windedness and for being a buzzkill, but it was cathartic to write.

Your grandmother sounds like a remarkably kind, loving, and tenacious woman who has been an inspiration to her family (and undoubtedly others) over the years.

Kudos to her for a life lived well.

The requested prayers on on their way. {{{Girth}}}

531 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, Feb 26, 2011 10:42:35pm

The Sandmonkey thread at Atlas Shrugs is delicious, with the Sandmonkey himself, Pamela Geller, Barry Rubin, Ramy Yaacoub, and others weighing in.

Also:


So, I am now also being accused of being an Islamist apologist: That would make me a gay zionist islamist apologist. All at the same time.:)

Apropos:


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