Herman Cain Accuser Holds a News Conference

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Gloria Allred’s press conference with the latest woman to accuse Herman Cain of sexual harassment is scheduled for 1:30 pm ET; expect the media to go into full circus mode on every news channel. They just showed the room where Allred’s presser is happening — totally crammed with reporters and cameras.

If Herman Cain thought this scandal was going to blow over, he was mistaken.

Here’s a thread to discuss…

UPDATE at 11/7/11 11:11:47 am

The accuser, Sharon Bialek, said that when she was alone in a car with Herman Cain, he suddenly shoved his hand under her skirt, reaching for her “genitals,” then grabbed her head and pulled it down to his crotch.

Ms. Bialek is actually describing a sexual assault, not just harassment. And she has sworn statements from two people she talked to about the incident, shortly after it happened.

UPDATE at 11/7/11 11:20:35 am

A rapid response from the Cain campaign:

Just as the country finally begins to refocus on our crippling $15 trillion national debt and the unacceptably high unemployment rate, now activist celebrity lawyer Gloria Allred is bringing forth more false accusations against the character of Republican front-runner Herman Cain.

All allegations of harassment against Mr. Cain are completely false. Mr. Cain has never harassed anyone. Fortunately the American people will not allow Mr. Cain’s bold “9-9-9 Plan”, clear foreign policy vision and plans for energy independence to be overshadowed by these bogus attacks.

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413 comments
1 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:30:32am

Well that was an amazingly stupid entrance.

2 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:30:53am

re: #1 Obdicut

Well that was an amazingly stupid entrance.

What happened?

3 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:31:22am

Who is this guy?

4 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:31:31am

re: #2 Simply Sarah

What happened?

A guy entered and started scolding the press for yammering by saying "What if I'm the woman? What if I have unrevelead genitalia?" it was fucking weird.

5 RadicalModerate  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:31:39am

CNN is broadcasting live on this story now too.

6 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:31:39am

The Yankee fan at the mic is having some press control issues.

7 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:31:51am

Oh, he's the introducer person.

8 Kragarghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:32:01am
If Herman Cain thought this scandal was going to blow over, he was mistaken.

But he issued instructions. Why aren't they following the instructions?

9 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:32:10am

What the fuck is this shit.

10 RadicalModerate  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:32:11am

Who the hell is this Brietbart wanna-be?

11 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:32:17am

re: #4 Obdicut

A guy entered and started scolding the press for yammering by saying "What if I'm the woman? What if I have unrevelead genitalia?" it was fucking weird.

What the hell?

12 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:32:19am

Who the frak is this jackass?

13 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:32:31am

Um. Not ready for prime time.

I would have thought Allred could be more professional.

14 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:32:44am

re: #10 RadicalModerate

I was sick of him two seconds after he started talking.

15 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:32:52am

Who is this guy?

16 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:33:12am

Is this actually the beginning to the next Borat movie?

17 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:33:51am

So far, this guy has made two sexually inappropriate comments and one religious one.

18 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:34:11am

re: #3 EmmmieG

Who is this guy?

Placeholder to prevent Breitbart from taking the stage.

19 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:34:16am

This seems to be standard now for high profile press conferences -- loons show up, grab the mic before anyone can stop them, and irritate the hell out of everybody until someone acts like an adult and gives them the hook.

20 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:34:26am

re: #17 darthstar

If he actually works for Allred, Allred needs to open this shit by firing him.

Wow.

21 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:34:39am

re: #19 Charles

This seems to be standard now for high profile press conferences -- loons show up, grab the mic before andyone can stop them, and irritate the hell out of everybody until someone acts like an adult and gives him the hook.

Can I get my gong? Will somebody get my friggin' gong?!

/

22 Winny Spencer  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:35:10am

Wow, this is supremely annoying.

23 mikec6666  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:35:15am

As a man, if you hear Gloria Allred say your name, grab your nuts and run for cover. That woman is so mean, honey badgers start giving a f@#k.

24 RadicalModerate  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:35:19am

And for the life of me I cannot see Allred approving of this guy acting like an idiot in front of a large press contigent.

25 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:35:21am

You-all enjoy it.

I'm off to accomplish something.

Have a great one!

26 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:36:14am

re: #23 mikec6666

As a man, if you hear Gloria Allred say your name, grab your nuts and run for cover. That woman is so mean, honey badgers start giving a f@#k.

Honey badger don't ca-- oh, shit...did you say GLORIA Allred? Never mind.

27 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:36:23am

re: #24 RadicalModerate

I've got him muted now. I couldn't stand his voice anymore.

28 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:37:04am

Perhaps this whole thing was just a setup for some very bizarre performance art.

29 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:37:04am

What is this, open mic night? Get him away from the microphones!

30 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:37:11am

re: #24 RadicalModerate

And for the life of me I cannot see Allred approving of this guy acting like an idiot in front of a large press contigent.

idiocy has been cool for a long time now...just another MSM dog and pony show...alot of words, no substance

31 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:37:30am

What channel are you watching that's carrying this idiot's ranting? CNN has the audio off while their talking heads yammer.

32 Winny Spencer  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:37:59am

TMZ.

33 Sionainn  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:38:09am

re: #31 Charles

What channel are you watching that's carrying this idiot's ranting? CNN has the audio off while their talking heads yammer.

TMZ.

34 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:38:13am

re: #31 Charles

What channel are you watching that's carrying this idiot's ranting? CNN has the audio off while their talking heads yammer.

TMZ.com

35 Alouenghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:38:18am

Who are these freaking morons?

36 RadicalModerate  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:38:19am

Reading comments on the TMZ site, they're saying that this idiot is Benjy Bronk from the Howard Stern show.

37 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:38:26am

re: #31 Charles

The TMZ links above.

Did anyone check with Allred on whether she actually called this conference?

38 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:38:44am

re: #36 RadicalModerate

Reading comments on the TMZ site, they're saying that this idiot is Benjy Bronk from the Howard Stern show.

Yegods, as if this wasn't enough of a circus already.

39 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:38:56am

re: #36 RadicalModerate

Reading comments on the TMZ site, they're saying that this idiot is Benjy Bronk from the Howard Stern show.

Oh. In other words, this person is not related to the conference, he's just a jerk.

40 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:39:01am

re: #4 Obdicut

A guy entered and started scolding the press for yammering by saying "What if I'm the woman? What if I have unrevelead genitalia?" it was fucking weird.

If you're in public, it's almost always best to have unrevealed genitalia.

41 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:39:09am

re: #37 Obdicut

The TMZ links above.

Did anyone check with Allred on whether she actually called this conference?

I could see Howard Stern actually pull a stunt like this.

42 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:39:42am

re: #40 SanFranciscoZionist

If you're in public, it's almost always best to have unrevealed genitalia.

For some of us, it establishes presence.

/

43 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:39:54am

So, to discuss something intelligent while we are waiting--would you describe Marie Curie as Polish, or French?

44 Winny Spencer  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:40:07am

Benjy Bronk, Anthony Weiner's Persistent Heckler, Takes The Spotlight

45 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:41:01am

re: #44 Winny Spencer

Why isn't he recognized and taken away? Shit. He's been up there for like ten minutes now.

46 Kung Fughazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:41:19am

re: #43 EmmmieG

I would go with French, but I know appallingly little about Mademoiselle Curie. To Wikipedia!!!

47 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:41:31am

If Allred's first action when coming out isn't to rip this man's heart out and eat it before the cameras, I'll have lost all respect for her.

//

48 Amory Blaine  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:41:48am

I just had some plantars warts removed with a co2 lazer. One was the size of a garbanzo bean.

Sounds like it was better than this press conference. :)

49 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:42:28am

re: #40 SanFranciscoZionist

If you're in public, it's almost always best to have unrevealed genitalia.

Depends on the beach--you can't spell 'genitalia' without "Italia'.

50 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:42:34am

In other important news, The Princess has her driving test today.

It's about 6 months later than I would have liked, but so it is.

51 RadicalModerate  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:42:52am

TMZ just confirmed on their video link that this is indeed Bronk at the microphone.

52 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:42:57am

Daddy, what do you do for work?

I'm a professional jerk, sweetheart.

53 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:43:40am

re: #52 EmmmieG

Daddy, what do you do for work?

I'm a professional jerk, sweetheart.

Well, at least he's getting paid...though I can certainly think of far more respectable job titles.

54 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:43:53am

He's spewing shit to fuck with the media.

55 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:44:13am

re: #39 EmmmieG

Oh. In other words, this person is not related to the conference, he's just a jerk.

Can't they get him away from the mike?

56 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:44:38am

re: #54 darthstar

He's not even using his time up there effectively. He's silent most of the time. Can't think of anything funny to say, I assume.

Andy Kaufmann weeps.

57 Sionainn  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:44:46am

Why, oh why do these press conferences never start on time?

58 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:44:46am

I'd love to see a news channel go up and pull their mic right now, saying, they'll "read about it in the papers"...

59 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:45:03am

re: #56 Obdicut

He's not even using his time up there effectively. He's silent most of the time. Can't think of anything funny to say, I assume.

Andy Kaufmann weeps.

Now THAT would be worth watching.

60 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:45:13am

Just added live video to this post...

61 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:45:25am

re: #43 EmmmieG

So, to discuss something intelligent while we are waiting--would you describe Marie Curie as Polish, or French?

Couldn't she be both? How did she describe herself?

62 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:45:37am

re: #55 SanFranciscoZionist

Can't they get him away from the mike?

Friar's Club should have some enormous dude in a robe and belt with a tonsure for security. He could belly-ram this guy out of the frame.

63 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:46:04am

re: #58 darthstar

I'd love to see a news channel go up and pull their mic right now, saying, they'll "read about it in the papers"...

He's relying on news conference precedent: Breitbart v Weiner.

64 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:46:56am

Get out, you moron!

65 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:46:59am

stand up comedy before the presser....the new pink...I kinda like it

66 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:47:22am

This has to be a hoax.

67 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:47:34am

re: #65 albusteve

stand up comedy before the presser...the new pink...I kinda like it

Yeah, but there's the little problem that it's not FUNNY.

68 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:47:51am

Okay, this is pretty weird.

69 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:48:33am

Since were all looking at the TMZ page--Justin Bieber ought to take the DNA test, then offer to pay for some psychiatric care for this woman.

She won't take it, he'll look generous, and it will make the point he thinks she's nuts, which is what I also think right now.

70 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:49:32am

re: #68 makeitstop

Okay, this is pretty weird.

I'm watching it more for the entertainment value of the press getting punked (again) by some asshole...Gloria Allred doesn't fuck with people like this...she would have come out by herself by now just to get the media to calm down.

71 RadicalModerate  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:50:01am

re: #66 darthstar

This has to be a hoax.

Don't think so- major media like CNN would have direct contact with Allred to verify the legitimacy, and possible details of the press conference.

72 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:50:23am

Is this something that always happens before press conferences and we just weren't aware of it before? I'm just trying to fathom how the press can just sit there and twiddle their fingers while this kind of thing goes on. It doesn't make any sense.

73 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:50:55am

Here we go...

74 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:50:55am

re: #71 RadicalModerate

Don't think so- major media like CNN would have direct contact with Allred to verify the legitimacy, and possible details of the press conference.

To be fair, just because they could doesn't mean they would.

75 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:51:05am

Finally, reality sets in.

76 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:51:18am

It's got to be getting warm in there...with all those cameras, laptop fans and people...be a good time to pass some wind.

77 Firstinla  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:51:22am

Once again: I am so glad I don't have television.

78 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:51:45am

I knew it...Elisa Jordana was a bullshit name the guy threw out.

79 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:51:59am

re: #69 EmmmieG

Since were all looking at the TMZ page--Justin Bieber ought to take the DNA test, then offer to pay for some psychiatric care for this woman.

She won't take it, he'll look generous, and it will make the point he thinks she's nuts, which is what I also think right now.

I'm just a little horrified that any woman would admit to having sex with Justin Bieber. He may be rich, but he's also seventeen, and looks like he's twelve years old.

80 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:52:14am

Sharon Bialek. Registered Republican.

81 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:52:24am

Registered Republican...Keep it in the party, Herman!

82 Kung Fughazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:52:34am

I wasn't watching; how did they get Benjy off the podium? Anything involving pepper spray or tasers?

83 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:52:34am

re: #80 Charles

Sharon Bialek. Registered Republican.

Not like that'll stop the wingnuts.

84 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:52:34am

White Republican woman. Wingnut heads exploding in 3...2...1...

85 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:53:13am

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm just a little horrified that any woman would admit to having sex with Justin Bieber. He may be rich, but he's also seventeen, and looks like he's twelve years old.

If you actually were out to get money for having a kid, he would be a target.

86 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:53:14am

re: #82 mattand

I wasn't watching; how did they get Benjy off the podium? Anything involving pepper spray or tasers?

He'll start shouting questions about cock size soon enough.

87 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:53:25am

Makes sense that she's a Republican - the National Restaurant Association is a right wing lobbying group.

88 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:53:38am

re: #84 makeitstop

White Republican woman. Wingnut heads exploding in 3...2...1...

Liberal plot - high tech lynching!

89 Lidanghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:54:01am

re: #84 makeitstop

White Republican woman. Wingnut heads exploding in 3...2...1...

RINO FEMINAZI! Eleventy!

90 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:54:35am

so Cain digs blondes...that's a start

91 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:54:49am

re: #85 EmmmieG

If you actually were out to get money for having a kid, he would be a target.

I'm not sure it would be worth it. Of course, she's almost twenty years younger than I am, which undoubtedly makes a big difference.

92 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:55:12am

"Mr. Cain decided to provide her with his idea of a stimulus package, which we will describe."

Ouch.

93 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:55:23am

Mr. Cain provided her with his idea of a stimulus package - which she will describe...salacious!

94 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:55:31am

re: #91 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm not sure it would be worth it. Of course, she's almost twenty years younger than I am, which undoubtedly makes a big difference.

Neither you or I would have a baby just for the child support, though.

95 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:55:48am

re: #87 Charles

Makes sense that she's a Republican - the National Restaurant Association is a right wing lobbying group.

Criminals usually operate in a community where they fit in. Sexual harassers, I guess, likewise.

96 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:55:53am

"stimulus package"

Is this really an occasion for levity? I guess it is if you're Gloria Allred.

97 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:56:01am

Whatever he did, he did it on three occasions.

98 Lidanghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:56:13am

re: #92 Charles

"Mr. Cain decided to provide her with his idea of a stimulus package, which we will describe.".

Ha! The pithy quote that will follow Herman Cain from now until the end of his campaign.

99 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:56:13am

Was she talking to him after she was already let go? I'm not getting the chronology here.

100 Kung Fughazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:56:20am

re: #84 makeitstop

Nah, they'll just go for the No True Republican Woman logical fallacy.

Given the GOP's spotty race relations record, though, I can't imagine the current rank-and-file would be happy about a black man talking to a white woman, let alone the stuff Cain is being accused of.

101 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:56:36am

re: #99 Obdicut

Was she talking to him after she was already let go? I'm not getting the chronology here.

She was let go and asked for help finding a new job.

102 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:56:41am

quite an effective bombing run here

103 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:56:44am

re: #94 EmmmieG

Neither you or I would have a baby just for the child support, though.

True, that.

104 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:57:11am

Gloria Allred doesn't do righteous indignation very well...

105 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:57:18am

re: #101 EmmmieG

She was let go and asked for help finding a new job.

Is that sexual harassment, then, if there's no professional relationship? I just mean legally.

I don't know the law that well.

106 Jerk  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:57:20am

Creepy stuff coming up!

107 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:57:56am

re: #105 Obdicut

Is that sexual harassment, then, if there's no professional relationship? I just mean legally.

I don't know the law that well.

I don't know, but he's running for President of the United States.

108 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:57:58am

"abuse the opportunities the office of the President provides..."

Clinton dog-whistle for the base?

109 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:58:03am

re: #97 makeitstop

Whatever he did, he did it on three occasions.

Totally inappropriate, but my mind goes to a day when the boyfriend of one of the brokers in my office had ten dozen roses delivered to her.

One of the middle-aged Filipina ladies from the office walked by the long line of vases, and commented, "Well! I don't know what Susan did to get these, but she did it ten times!"

110 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:58:44am

Hey Herb!

Blame yourself!

111 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:59:10am

threesome?
wow

112 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 10:59:55am

She's not camera shy.

113 Jerk  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:00:27am

re: #112 darthstar

She's not camera shy.

They said she hosted some kind of show before.

114 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:00:32am

re: #111 albusteve

You should get a job on the Howard Stern show.

115 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:00:48am

This is totally rehearsed, it's gotta be staged! No victim would be so calm! She's a fraud!

116 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:00:57am

She hosted a cooking show.

117 Alouenghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:01:10am

"Kinda smirked"

118 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:02:26am

Wow.

119 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:02:26am

Whoa now. He grabbed her head and pushed it toward his crotch.

120 RadicalModerate  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:02:37am

And that would be sexual assault, if true.

121 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:02:43am

Whoa. Genital-grabbing.

122 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:03:20am

And reached his hand up under her skirt.

This is really bad for Cain. She sounds very believable.

123 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:03:37am

It's short shrift, but he does seem to take 'no' for an answer.

124 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:03:37am

Heh. She last saw him at a Tea Party conference.

125 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:03:39am

She's not just talking harassment. She's claiming a full-on sexual assault.

Wow.

126 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:05:10am

This is going to destroy his campaign.

127 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:05:31am

Cain must be shitting himself

128 Felineghazi, Caliph of the Conservative Jihad  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:05:40am

Is Mrs Cain equipped with eye lasers?

129 Alouenghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:05:40am

The wingnut spin is going to be "she totally asked for it, and she's just pissed she didn't get a job out of it"

and also:

"She owes him for the hotel suite."

130 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:05:46am

Makes complete sense that she didn't file a complaint when there wasn't really a professional relationship, and there were no witnesses. The statements to her boyfriend and old friend, which they've sworn to, I think count for a lot.

131 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:05:52am

re: #126 Charles

This is going to destroy his campaign.

Not if he admits it and then becomes a moral leader who can take this country forward. //

132 ghazidor  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:06:02am

re: #119 Charles

He grabbed her head and pushed it toward his crotch.

Hey now, I have that phrase copyrighted for use in my emcsa archive stories, it is not allowed to be used without my consent...

///

133 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:06:15am

Good for her for coming forward.

134 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:06:17am

This is great news for John McCain's campaign.

135 Lidanghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:06:17am

re: #126 Charles

This is going to destroy his campaign.

Not with the base it's not. They're not buying it:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

136 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:06:28am

re: #126 Charles

This is going to destroy his campaign.

Unfortunately, that remains to be seen.

137 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:06:30am

re: #129 Alouette

The wingnut spin is going to be "she totally asked for it, and she's just pissed she didn't get a job"

she should offer to take a lie detector test

138 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:06:49am

Cain making a statement -- "false accusations."

"All allegations of harassment against Mr. Cain are completely false."

139 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:07:16am

She says the country needs a leader who embodies the traits of a good person.

We have one now. His name is Barack Obama.

140 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:07:24am

re: #138 Charles

Cain making a statement -- "false accusations."

"All allegations of harassment against Mr. Cain are completely false."

Yes, because we know Cain would never lie, right? *rolls eyes*

141 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:07:31am

re: #126 Charles

This is going to destroy his campaign.

His campaign was already pretty dead. This is going to destroy Herman Cain, in a lot of ways.

I wonder what the effect will be on the rest of the Republican nomination field.

142 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:07:43am

re: #138 Charles

Cain making a statement -- "false accusations."

"All allegations of harassment against Mr. Cain are completely false."

Cain's statements, like a yeasty bread dough, take a few hours to rise into their final form.

143 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:07:55am

re: #126 Charles

This is going to destroy his campaign.

There was no campaign. Sooner or later the TPGOP will drop the charade, and this might be the excuse.

144 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:08:04am

re: #135 Lidane

Not with the base it's not. They're not buying it:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

Yeah, they will be dumping him in the coming weeks. They would have to, anyway.

145 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:08:16am

re: #123 Decatur Deb

It's short shrift, but he does seem to take 'no' for an answer.

He's not a rapist, he's an abuser who takes advantage of his position. I wonder how many times it worked.

146 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:09:22am

re: #145 wrenchwench

He's not a rapist, he's an abuser who takes advantage of his position. I wonder how many times it worked.

There are women watching this and weeping right now. Guaranteed.

147 RadicalModerate  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:09:23am

re: #138 Charles

Cain making a statement -- "false accusations."

"All allegations of harassment against Mr. Cain are completely false."

Is it standard procedure for someone denying sexual conduct allegations to pad more than half the press release with campaign sound-bites?

148 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:09:42am

re: #138 Charles

Cain making a statement -- "false accusations."

"All allegations of harassment against Mr. Cain are completely false."

Not going to be enough here. Charges are way too serious and specific for a general denial. She's going to be targeted for destruction, since that's the only remotely possible way to try and save his campaign.

149 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:10:01am

As compared with the Friday night news dump - where the 1st woman didn't want to be part of any further scrutiny, this woman's story will have legs because she's putting herself out for scrutiny and she's got Allred.

Cain's chances are declining significantly.

And here's a rebuttal for anyone who wants to play the politics game:

1) Would you want your wife, daughter, mother, subjected to someone like Cain who engaged in these alleged activities? I think most people would say no - those who demur or say yes are in denial and are putting politics ahead of logic, reasoning, or the facts.

2) the sworn statements to others would likely fall into hearsay (Cain's people would try to treat it as such); they weren't there and are only basing their position on the statements of the woman. Still, if they're contemporaneous with the events, it's better than no such evidence at all.

3) What else is Cain going to say? He's painted himself into a corner when he said that there would be others and that he denied any such behavior/actions. Now, he's putting himself further into a corner, because each successive woman sounds more and more believable.

150 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:10:30am

re: #146 EmmmieG

There are women watching this and weeping right now. Guaranteed.

Perhaps more will be inspired by this woman's bravery and also come forward.

151 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:10:45am

re: #147 RadicalModerate

Is it standard procedure for someone denying sexual conduct allegations to pad more than half the press release with campaign sound-bites?

waterboard the fucker

152 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:10:54am

re: #138 Charles

Cain making a statement -- "false accusations."

"All allegations of harassment against Mr. Cain are completely false."

Is that position four or five?

153 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:10:57am

re: #148 Simply Sarah

Not going to be enough here. Charges are way too serious and specific for a general denial. She's going to be targeted for destruction, since that's the only remotely possible way to try and save his campaign.

I hope both of them have security to the hilt. They will need it.

154 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:11:07am

re: #150 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

That's how the Tiger Woods story exploded - one woman came forward, and pretty soon a whole bunch more did.

155 Felineghazi, Caliph of the Conservative Jihad  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:11:17am

re: #148 Simply Sarah

Not going to be enough here. Charges are way too serious and specific for a general denial. She's going to be targeted for destruction, since that's the only remotely possible way to try and save his campaign.

Campaign heck, what about his lucrative TV gig afterwards!
O_O

156 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:11:29am

re: #149 lawhawk

The fact that she's a Republican, and was last at a Tea Party event, makes this different, as well. Anyone who thinks its contrived has to deal with it in terms of GOP infighting. She's not filing a suit.

157 celticdragon  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:11:31am

re: #122 Charles

And reached his hand up under her skirt.

This is really bad for Cain. She sounds very believable.

This looks like an actual sexual assault. Holy shit. She has sworn statments form two other people that she talked to at the time as well. This one will not go away.

158 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:11:59am

re: #147 RadicalModerate

Is it standard procedure for someone denying sexual conduct allegations to pad more than half the press release with campaign sound-bites?

At least he's not trying to sell people pepperoni slices. He's at least that classy.

159 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:12:59am

High-profile publicity hound though she is, Allred has always been very careful about vetting her clients. She would never risk supporting an outright fabrication (a very elaborate one at that). It is either that or it is the truth, there is just no wiggle room in the allegations as presented.

160 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:13:20am

So now the questions are how many more women out there were victims of Cain and how many will want to come forward. I'm wagering the answer to the first is "A lot", but I'm less sure about the latter.

161 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:13:29am

re: #149 lawhawk

As compared with the Friday night news dump - where the 1st woman didn't want to be part of any further scrutiny, this woman's story will have legs because she's putting herself out for scrutiny and she's got Allred.

Cain's chances are declining significantly.

And here's a rebuttal for anyone who wants to play the politics game:

1) Would you want your wife, daughter, mother, subjected to someone like Cain who engaged in these alleged activities? I think most people would say no - those who demur or say yes are in denial and are putting politics ahead of logic, reasoning, or the facts.

I don't think so. A lot of people really do blame their wives, mothers, daughters, etc for any unwanted sexual attention or assualt that happens to them, and will tell them they wanted it in a hot second.

162 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:13:53am

re: #156 Obdicut

The fact that she's a Republican, and was last at a Tea Party event, makes this different, as well. Anyone who thinks its contrived has to deal with it in terms of GOP infighting. She's not filing a suit.

And that's going to be the hardest bit to get past, that there's no suit being filed, no charges being filed, nothing done other than coming forward to tell her story. If she had wanted to profit off this, she could have sold her story to the press, so if the Right wants to accuse her of seeking financial gain of any sort, they're gonna have a hard time proving it.

163 webevintage  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:14:08am

re: #157 celticdragon

This looks like an actual sexual assault. Holy shit.

If it had happened to me it would have felt like an assault.

164 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:14:25am

"not on public assistance..."

That'll help her cred with the base (harrassing welfare recipients is apparently below their radar screen).

165 jvic  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:14:34am

re: #157 celticdragon

This looks like an actual sexual assault. Holy shit. She has sworn statments form two other people that she talked to at the time as well. This one will not go away.

re: #137 albusteve

she should offer to take a lie detector test

People will be asking why he doesn't offer to.

166 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:15:19am

re: #163 webevintage

If it had happened to me it would have felt like an assault.

I would have whipped out my taser and plugged him right between his legs

167 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:15:28am

re: #162 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

She can still sell her story at some point, so they can still yap about how that's her plan.

There is one part that is factually checkable: her boyfriend booking the room and Cain upgrading it. I assume someone will investigate that, but if that's true, it definitely is weird as shit-- if Cain only met the woman a couple times before, splashing out like that is kind of odd.

168 Lidanghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:15:42am

re: #164 Shiplord Kirel

"not on public assistance..."

That'll help her cred with the base (harrassing welfare recipients is apparently below their radar screen).

Not really. The Freepers are already talking about another money bomb for Cain and are treating this woman like a librul plant. They're playing the No True Republican Woman card.

169 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:15:44am

re: #165 jvic

re: #137 albusteve

People will be asking why he doesn't offer to.

He would, but he doesn't have the facts to back it up. /

170 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:16:01am

re: #166 albusteve

I would have whipped out my taser and plugged him right between his legs

You taser tongued devil, you...

171 laZardo  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:16:02am

Morning folks. Had some serious "new guy jitters" yesterday at work, and ironically it wasn't with the customer that one of my co-workers literally pulled me aside to give me a pep talk about. @_@

172 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:16:15am

Any man who acts this way has been doing it for a long, long time, and has gotten away with it many times.

173 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:16:17am

re: #165 jvic

re: #137 albusteve

People will be asking why he doesn't offer to.

Actually, he has a reasonable excuse for not offering, which is that "lie detectors" are bullshit quackery with basically no real value in finding the truth.

174 celticdragon  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:16:30am

re: #167 Obdicut

She can still sell her story at some point, so they can still yap about how that's her plan.

There is one part that is factually checkable: her boyfriend booking the room and Cain upgrading it. I assume someone will investigate that, but if that's true, it definitely is weird as shit-- if Cain only met the woman a couple times before, splashing out like that is kind of odd.

The hotel will not have kept records from 1997 in all probability.

175 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:16:47am

re: #168 Lidane

Free Republic is a place where the idea that women shouldn't be allowed to vote because they tend to vote for Democrats is frequently floated and endorsed by at least a significant number of people there. It is Frightened Man Land.

176 jaunte  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:16:53am

Cain campaign:

Just as the country finally begins to refocus on our crippling $15 trillion national debt and the unacceptably high unemployment rate, now activist celebrity lawyer Gloria Allred is bringing forth more false accusations against the character of Republican front-runner Herman Cain.
All allegations of harassment against Mr. Cain are completely false. Mr. Cain has never harassed anyone. Fortunately the American people will not allow Mr. Cain's bold "9-9-9 Plan", clear foreign policy vision and plans for energy independence to be overshadowed by these bogus attacks.
[Link: content.usatoday.com...]

177 laZardo  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:16:59am

re: #170 darthstar

You taser tongued devil, you...

"IMMA TAZE YOU BRO"

178 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:17:23am

corgi at law thinks you're hosed, Cain

179 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:17:29am

re: #167 Obdicut

She can still sell her story at some point, so they can still yap about how that's her plan.

There is one part that is factually checkable: her boyfriend booking the room and Cain upgrading it. I assume someone will investigate that, but if that's true, it definitely is weird as shit-- if Cain only met the woman a couple times before, splashing out like that is kind of odd.

Considering his position, it may not have cost him a dime. He took a chance, it probably paid off in the past, and this time it took 14 years to turn around and bite him.

180 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:17:32am

Well obviously it's all her fault for not wearing a burqa and staying home to cook for her menfolk.

181 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:17:48am

re: #174 celticdragon

The hotel will not have kept records from 1997 in all probability.

That's true. It was a very long time ago, I was forgetting that. There may or may not be a trail there.

182 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:18:13am

OT:
Conrad Murray verdict to be released at 1PM PST.

A jury has reached a verdict in the involuntary manslaughter case against Michael Jackson's doctor. Court officials say it will be read about 1 p.m. PST.

The verdict came Monday in the trial of Dr. Conrad Murray.

Prosecutors depicted Murray as a reckless physician who abandoned Jackson while he was under the effects of the powerful anesthetic propofol on June 25, 2009.

183 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:18:24am

re: #166 albusteve

I would have whipped out my taser and plugged him right between his legs

I don't think so, unless you have a purse big enough to fit it.

184 Amory Blaine  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:18:25am

POLITICO!!!!!ITS ALL YOUR FAULTS!!!!!111!!!TY

185 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:18:35am

re: #176 jaunte

His clear foreign policy vision.

Okay, that's the funniest bit right there.

186 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:19:06am

Money quote:

I said, ‘I have a boyfriend.’

He said, ‘You want a job, right?’”

If the wingnuts circle the wagons on this, moderate Republicans are going to really have problems with it.

As bad as the Republicans were doing before this press conference, it's about to get a lot worse for them, especially if they continue to support Cain.

187 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:19:48am

re: #180 EmmmieG

Well obviously it's all her fault for not wearing a burqa and staying home to cook for her menfolk.

Or, wearing a bustle and agitating to have a vote of her own.

188 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:20:23am

re: #187 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Or, wearing a bustle and agitating to have a vote of her own.

Bustles!

189 webevintage  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:20:32am

Earlier David Corn asked on Twitter if this was really "harassment" since she was not working for the NRA or just "crude behavior".
Crude behavior?

We need to call things what they are.
If he did what she alleges then he assaulted her.

190 celticdragon  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:20:40am

re: #172 Charles

Any man who acts this way has been doing it for a long, long time, and has gotten away with it many times.

Exactly. This is a prime example of old school male power/privilege at work. He feels entitled to whatever he wants. He reaches out and takes it...even if it is somebody elses' wife or girlfriend.

191 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:20:49am

re: #168 Lidane

Not really. The Freepers are already talking about another money bomb for Cain and are treating this woman like a librul plant. They're playing the No True Republican Woman card.

The Freepers are psychotic.

192 Lidanghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:20:49am

re: #185 Obdicut

His clear foreign policy vision.

Okay, that's the funniest bit right there.

Ubeki-beki-beki-bekistan!

193 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:21:12am

re: #186 makeitstop

As this is an unproveable allegation, I'm betting they'll circle the wagons. Nothing really has changed-- their stance was always that the women making the accusations were lying, so what is one more woman for them to call a liar?

194 Kragarghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:21:24am

Irony: Herman Cain passing out ethics lessons to reporters

Herman Cain, unwilling to defend himself on the merits against the sexual harassment allegations against him, has taken to having his campaign pass out copies of the “journalistic code of ethics” to reporters who dare ask him questions about the matter.

Reporter-bashing is always a handy tactic, especially when you don’t have the facts on your side. Especially among Republican primary voters. So it’s no surprise that the GOP presidential candidate resorted to that cudgel during his debate with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. “There are too many people in the media who are downright dishonest,” Cain said. “They do a disservice to the American people.”

Spare me the lectures about honesty from a man who denied that he was aware of a financial payment to settle the sexual harassment claims, then acknowledged it, then said he was distinguishing between a “settlement” and an “agreement.”

The “disservice to the American people” is being done by a man whose campaign first said he could only “vaguely recall” something about a harassment complaint, then proferred an obviously incomplete account about commenting on a woman’s height. He has since tried — without much success — to shut down debate on a serious question about his fitness for the presidency

If Cain wants to engage in a debate about journalistic ethics, maybe he should read the code before he starts handing it out.

195 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:21:34am

re: #190 celticdragon

Exactly. This is a prime example of old school male power/privilege at work. He feels entitled to whatever he wants. He reaches out and takes it...even if it is somebody elses' wife or girlfriend.

traditional
family
values

196 Felineghazi, Caliph of the Conservative Jihad  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:21:48am

re: #192 Lidane

Send him a herring and the location of a sequoia in California.

197 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:22:46am

re: #193 Obdicut

As this is an unproveable allegation, I'm betting they'll circle the wagons. Nothing really has changed-- their stance was always that the women making the accusations were lying, so what is one more woman for them to call a liar?

I fully expect them to do so, too.

But there have to be a lot of non-TP Republicans out there looking at this and wondering how the Teahadis can stick up for this type of conduct.

198 Lidanghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:23:01am

re: #189 webevintage

We need to call things what they are.
If he did what she alleges then he assaulted her.

Exactly! If this turns out to be legit, he sexually assaulted this woman.

Of course, for the wingnuts, she's just a librul plant who's just making things up to lynch a conservative black man. And besides, everyone knows that sexual harassment doesn't exist. =P

199 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:23:25am

I mean, I suppose in a way, the release is right in the immediate case. As people have said repeatedly, it sounds less like sexual harassment and more like sexual assault. Sort of out of the frying pan and into the fire, though.

200 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:23:30am

meanwhile, Mrs. Cain has fled the country

201 jaunte  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:23:54am

re: #192 Lidane

Ubeki-beki-beki-bekistan!

Herman Cain is too important to remember the names of small countries.

202 RadicalModerate  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:24:14am

Good grief. Michelle Malkin is going absolutely apoplectic over on her site regarding this news conference.

203 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:24:36am

Here's what just changed. Details.

Sexual Harassment Suit is actually a fairly bloodless phrase, one of the many euphemisms we employ to be polite.

"Grabbed my head and shoved it towards his crotch" is a phrase with power. It disgusts us and repels the average woman. It describes a crude, nasty, unpleasant sort of man.

This is, of course, just my opinion.

204 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:24:44am

re: #192 Lidane

The fact that he completely flubbed the right-of-return question, had no awareness of it, kind of shows how thin the support for Israel really is in a lot of the GOP. Nobody bothered to really brief him on Israel. It's not important, because just by being in the GOP he gets his I Support Israel gold card. No need to actually demonstrate competence in the area.

205 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:24:44am

re: #200 albusteve

meanwhile, Mrs. Cain has fled the country begun leafing through the 'divorce lawyers' section of the Yellow Pages

FTFY

206 celticdragon  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:24:44am

re: #197 makeitstop

I fully expect them to do so, too.

But there have to be a lot of non-TP Republicans out there looking at this and wondering how the Teahadis can stick up for this type of conduct.

Remember that she is a Tea Party speaker and member herself.

207 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:24:51am

re: #172 Charles

Any man who acts this way has been doing it for a long, long time, and has gotten away with it many times.

I don't doubt that Cain was capable of doing what she said. His shifting story last week, and his ability to remember details when he felt they were helpful to his story shows just how arrogant he is about the whole thing.

I think his wife isn't going to give any interviews now because she won't be able to keep a straight face when asked about the accusations against her husband. His behavior with other women isn't going to be a surprise to her, and probably will be somewhat familiar...guys have their habits, and they don't change them that often.

208 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:25:46am

re: #201 jaunte

Herman Cain is too important to remember the names of small countries.

Or care whether his victim "has a boyfriend". Her reaction sound completely real to me. That it was irrelevant to him does too.

209 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:26:18am

re: #204 Obdicut

The fact that he completely flubbed the right-of-return question, had no awareness of it, kind of shows how thin the support for Israel really is in a lot of the GOP. Nobody bothered to really brief him on Israel. It's not important, because just be being in the GOP he gets is I Support Israel gold card. No need to actually demonstrate competence in the area.

and quoting the Pokemon song verbatim as his closing statement in a debate.

[Link: www.mediaite.com...]

210 Lidanghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:26:54am

re: #206 celticdragon

Remember that she is a Tea Party speaker and member herself.

That doesn't matter. No True Tea Party/Republican Woman would say such things. She's clearly a plant from the feminazis and RINOs to hurt Herman Cain.

///

211 justaminute  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:27:00am

I think the days of voters wishful thinking about putting a CEO without much political experience and catapult him into the highest office in the land is about over.

212 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:27:12am

re: #208 wrenchwench

Or care whether his victim "has a boyfriend". Her reaction sound completely real to me. That it was irrelevant to him does too.

Well, I don't care if she had a boyfriend, either. I honestly don't see it being any worse because of that. It's plenty horrific already.

213 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:27:28am

It's not just the sexual assault angle I'm looking at, it's also the "strong taking advantage of the weak" angle as well. At a time when folks are pissed at the "1%" for using their power to push around weak folks, you have allegations that Cain, a powerful businessman, was extorting sex for favors.

The Right will circle the wagons, but as noted earlier, it's going to turn into a circular firing squad. The more they try to defend Cain, the more distasteful they become to everybody else.

214 Donna Ballard  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:27:31am

I just finished watching the press conference with Ms. Allred and her client and these allegations are very, very specific and credible! I, for one, believe he really did this and I sincerely hope it flushes him down the nearest toilet and into the gutter he crawled out of! To grab her head and try to force her into such a vulnerable position is unconscionable and undoubtedly assault! He's truly is a sick S.O.B. and I one do not want him in the White House!

215 Kragarghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:28:07am

re: #206 celticdragon

Remember that she is a Tea Party speaker and member herself.

The Commies were able to get a Kenyan Muslim into the White House, you think they couldn't get someone into the Tea Party?!
/

216 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:28:45am

re: #203 EmmmieG

Here's what just changed. Details.

Sexual Harassment Suit is actually a fairly bloodless phrase, one of the many euphemisms we employ to be polite.

"Grabbed my head and shoved it towards his crotch" is a phrase with power. It disgusts us and repels the average woman. It describes a crude, nasty, unpleasant sort of man.

This is, of course, just my opinion.

This whole "campaign" is revealing to a lot of people, and revealing of a lot of people. The sides people defend tell all.

217 blueraven  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:29:11am

re: #135 Lidane

Not with the base it's not. They're not buying it:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

Good Gawd!

To: refermech

So, she was not an employee of Cain’s? Perhaps Cain acted inappropriately, but this is NOT sexual harassment!

62 posted on Monday, November 07, 2011 1:10:09 PM by reegs
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To: tcrlaf

EVERYONE IS MISSING AN IMPORTANT POINT...

She was NOT ACTUALLY EMPLOYED BY CAIN during this alleged “Incident”!!!

So he made a pass. That is between him and his wife.

64 posted on Monday, November 07, 2011 1:10:09 PM by Yaelle (Donate to Cain's Iowa Fund! [Link: supporthermancain.com...] Needs 300k in 3 days!)
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These people are sick!

218 Kragarghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:29:18am

I'm waiting on Glenn Beck to release his own weepy "LEAVE HERMAN CAIN ALONE!" video.

219 zora  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:29:32am

didn't watch the press conference. my husband and I were saying the other day that if one of the accuser's is white, blond, and a republican, cain is fucked. he hit the trifecta on this one.

220 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:30:07am

re: #213 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The more they try to defend Cain, the more distasteful they become to everybody else.

Exactly the point I was trying to make earlier. Moderates will look at the TP defending this guy and think WTF?

221 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:30:24am

re: #212 Simply Sarah

Well, I don't care if she had a boyfriend, either. I honestly don't see it being any worse because of that. It's plenty horrific already.

It is totally irrelevant, but it was her reaction. Very credible, IMHO. I mean, I completely understand her state of mind at the time, and that she says now exactly what she said then makes her very credible to me.

222 Kragarghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:30:28am

re: #217 blueraven

Good Gawd!

That's their excuse, she wasn't employed by him at the time?

WTF?

223 Alouenghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:30:40am

re: #208 wrenchwench

Or care whether his victim "has a boyfriend". Her reaction sound completely real to me. That it was irrelevant to him does too.

She "had a boyfriend"! They were probably living together in sin! Why wasn't she married?

224 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:30:41am

re: #198 Lidane

Exactly! If this turns out to be legit, he sexually assaulted this woman.

Of course, for the wingnuts, she's just a librul plant who's just making things up to lynch a conservative black man. And besides, everyone knows that sexual harassment doesn't exist. =P

HC really has them at a disadvantage right now, seeing as it's their forebears who burned down entire parts of town when a Black man was said to even look crosseyed at a white woman. Now they're going to have to defend him from far worse allegations to have any present-day consistency.

A part of me thinks their dilemma is funny. Nice going, Herb!

225 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:30:51am

54% of GOPers unconcerned about the Cain allegations. 15% say they are "just a little" concerned, but only 13% say that they're either great deal or quite concerned about voting for Cain.

Welcome to the current state of the GOP.

The same party that completely eviscerated Gary Hart, is turning a blind eye to Cain's far more serious acts.

226 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:31:07am

re: #217 blueraven

Good Gawd!

Bwahahahaha! Since when is forcing a women's face into your crotch a "pass"?

227 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:31:15am

re: #219 zora

didn't watch the press conference. my husband and I were saying the other day that if one of the accuser's is white, blond, and a republican, cain is fucked. he hit on the trifecta on this one.

228 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:31:35am

re: #221 wrenchwench

It is totally irrelevant, but it was her reaction. Very credible, IMHO. I mean, I completely understand her state of mind at the time, and that she says now exactly what she said then makes her very credible to me.

I think it's relevant that she was committed to a relationship at the time

229 OhNoBenghazi!  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:31:35am

re: #219 zora

I missed it too.
Whoa !!! I may have to start following the drama again.
Whoa...

230 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:31:52am

re: #217 blueraven

Good Gawd!

These people are sick!

Well, as I said before, that may even be technically correct! But it's a bit like saying there was no kidnapping because you shot them dead before stealing the body.

231 celticdragon  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:32:12am

They are frothing at the mouth over "Dim" Jim Deholts place. Ms Bialek is being called "bimbo #4".

smh

232 RadicalModerate  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:32:13am

And here's why the idiot from the Howard Stern show was acting like a fool at the news conference:

Howard Stern To The Rescue! Herman Cain Sexual Harassment Scandal Is ‘A Smear Job’

233 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:32:27am

re: #213 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It's not just the sexual assault angle I'm looking at, it's also the "strong taking advantage of the weak" angle as well.

That's what sexual assault is all about, almost all the time.

234 zora  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:32:36am

re: #222 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

saw a lot of that at hot air, too. so now we only care about sexual assault if it's an employee / employer relationship.

235 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:32:40am

re: #228 albusteve

I think it's relevant that she was committed to a relationship at the time

Because well, why not force a single women's face into your crotch, right? She might like it!/

236 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:33:00am

re: #228 albusteve

I think it's relevant that she was committed to a relationship at the time

You are incorrect.

237 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:33:25am

re: #217 blueraven

Good Gawd!

These people are sick!

You gotta be shitting me. They're actually trying to argue that it's something "between him and his wife"?

That's irony so thick, you could use it as a desert topping.

238 Jerk  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:33:27am

Being sexually assaulted probably takes all the fun out of an upgraded hotel room.

239 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:33:36am

re: #230 Simply Sarah

It's not correct, since he used physical force. If he'd just suggested something, then it is. But actually putting his hands on her raises it to a criminal level.

I wonder if he'll actually have the guts to sue her for slander and libel? If he doesn't, and he says this didn't happen, why isn't he doing so?

240 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:33:45am

re: #233 wrenchwench

That's what sexual assault is all about, almost all the time.

Can I upding this a few more times for being dead-on correct?

241 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:34:08am

She said no. Wouldn't that make her NOT a bimbo?

242 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:34:47am

re: #241 EmmmieG

She said no. Wouldn't that make her NOT a bimbo?

No means maybe, unless she means yes./

243 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:35:26am

re: #239 Obdicut

It's not correct, since he used physical force. If he'd just suggested something, then it is. But actually putting his hands on her raises it to a criminal level.

I wonder if he'll actually have the guts to sue her for slander and libel? If he doesn't, and he says this didn't happen, why isn't he doing so?

Well, what I meant is that even if is doesn't qualify as harassment, it's certainly sexual assault, which is no better than the former.

244 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:35:29am

Obviously she's a Republican establishment agent. The establishment has bet on Romney so they must destroy Cain!

245 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:35:39am

re: #232 RadicalModerate

And here's why the idiot from the Howard Stern show was acting like a fool at the news conference:

Howard Stern To The Rescue! Herman Cain Sexual Harassment Scandal Is ‘A Smear Job’

Story's three days old. Stern may re-evaluate.

246 Alouenghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:36:07am

She never paid him for the hotel room!

247 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:36:14am

re: #233 wrenchwench

That's what sexual assault is all about, almost all the time.

Harassment, sexual assualt, rape - these things are rarely about sex.

248 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:36:25am

re: #236 wrenchwench

You are incorrect.

no, you are...it's relevant to the questions that may come up regarding her status at the time, not whether a crime was committed....implying she was not a single person in the loose, maybe looking for a relationship....that stuff comes up in court...it helps shape her character

249 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:36:53am

Hopefully Cain is toast after this - and that his wife gets the Koch brothers fortune....

250 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:37:41am

re: #248 albusteve

no, you are...it's relevant to the questions that may come up regarding her status at the time, not whether a crime was committed...implying she was not a single person in the loose, maybe looking for a relationship...that stuff comes up in court...it helps shape her character

The only part of her being in a relationship that was relevant to Cain, I'm guessing, is that she wasn't a virgin, so she's fair game for any man to try his "charms" on.

251 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:38:17am

Cain's new campaign bumper sticker:

Image: hermancain-bumper.jpg

252 Felineghazi, Caliph of the Conservative Jihad  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:38:23am

When the tide reverses and the wingnuts turn on Cain it is going to get very very vicious.

253 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:38:47am

re: #248 albusteve

no, you are...it's relevant to the questions that may come up regarding her status at the time, not whether a crime was committed...implying she was not a single person in the loose, maybe looking for a relationship...that stuff comes up in court...it helps shape her character

And she's not going to court. She retained an attorney in case Cain wanted to take her to court for speaking out, IMHO.

254 iossarian  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:38:53am

I think redstate has crashed.

255 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:39:08am

re: #247 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Harassment, sexual assualt, rape - these things are rarely about sex.

Sex may just be a "bonus" tagged on at the end to go along with the asshole's power trip. Doesn't keep them from trying to use "I couldn't control myself! That's just how guys are!" as an excuse. And succeeding with it more than I like to think about.

256 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:39:27am

re: #250 wrenchwench

The only part of her being in a relationship that was relevant to Cain, I'm guessing, is that she wasn't a virgin, so she's fair game for any man to try his "charms" on.

true

257 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:39:55am

(The "Tonight, you" memepic would now fit Cain as a person. I won't do it however, since it still would tap into a racist stereotype.)

258 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:40:03am

re: #254 iossarian

I think redstate has crashed.

Maybe they're just resting.

259 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:40:24am

re: #251 Charles

Cain's new campaign bumper sticker:

Image: hermancain-bumper.jpg

OMG.

Great, and awful, at once.

260 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:40:48am

re: #252 oaktree

When the tide reverses and the wingnuts turn on Cain it is going to get very very vicious.

Oh yes, it's bound to. And at that point, I will defend him from those dumb bigots.

Sad, though, he could have avoided all of this.

261 Donna Ballard  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:40:57am

re: #217 blueraven

Good Gawd!

Cover up, bury, deny, deny, deny. These people know no other way. Mr Cain is a piece of garbage that needs to crawl back into the gutter where he came from. I am really sick of hearing about our politicians with power taking advantage of the weaker among us. Her being out of work and asking for help to find a job made her weak in his eyes and someone to be taken advantage of. That kind of mentality just makes me sick to my stomach. Ten years ago I was out of work and I asked a friend (I thought he was a friend, I know better now!) if he knew anyone who was hiring and he said he could possibly help me of I "scratched" his itch for him from time to time in the future. I told him to stick it where the sun won't shine and to get lost, I wasn't that desperate to find a job!

262 justaminute  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:41:09am

Well there is probably a really good chance that there is a couple of women out there that Cain was successful with? Herman might as well withdraw now. Republicans and Cain will always be looking over their shoulder.

263 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:41:19am

re: #257 Sergey Romanov

Yep. This is the first accusation that meets the stereotype. And it's coming from a Republican who attends Tea Party events.

264 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:41:52am

re: #253 wrenchwench

And she's not going to court. She retained an attorney in case Cain wanted to take her to court for speaking out, IMHO.

I realize that, but it's the same vein as having the boyfriend at the presser, complete with the documents involved

265 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:42:36am

If Cain's "vote" deserts him - where does it possibly go?. Straight back to "Merry" Perry?

266 Alouenghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:42:42am

Wow. I just got a seething, frothing spam email from "Americans For Prosperity" shrieking about the FCC Net Neutrality law that is a Threat To Life As We Know It.

They claim Net Neutrality "destroys Internet freedom" which is like saying that "hydraulic fracturing is good for the environment" (yes Conoco Phillips actually says that in their ads)

Turnspeak at its finest.

267 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:42:53am

re: #237 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

You gotta be shitting me. They're actually trying to argue that it's something "between him and his wife"?

That's irony so thick, you could use it as a desert topping.

No. Consensual adultery would be something between him and his wife (and whoever else).

This is not private business.

268 Someone Please Benghazi Me Up!  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:43:08am

1) Are they still talking about liberal smear jobs? Are they effin' kidding? If Cain becomes the Republican nominee, it will be as if Christmas came twice that year for Democrats (or Purim, or Flying Spaghetti Monster day, or whatever your preferred rejoicing holiday is).

2) When I arrived at the site, the ad informed me that Herman Cain was the ideal choice for America. Must be a liberal plant.

269 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:43:08am

re: #263 Obdicut

I mean something else tho. A pic of a leering black male (even tho it's from the official ads) with these words and without context would still not be appropriate - even though we all do know the context.

270 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:43:13am

re: #264 albusteve

I realize that, but it's the same vein as having the boyfriend at the presser, complete with the documents involved

That was Allred's partner, not "the boyfriend".

271 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:43:29am

re: #265 wozzablog

If Cain's "vote" deserts him - where does it possibly go?. Straight back to "Merry" Perry?

Gingrich is hoping its his turn to make a run at Romney.

272 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:43:40am

re: #265 wozzablog

If Cain's "vote" deserts him - where does it possibly go?. Straight back to "Merry" Perry?

Yep, straight back to n***** head ranch.

273 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:43:53am

re: #265 wozzablog

If Cain's "vote" deserts him - where does it possibly go?. Straight back to "Merry" Perry?

The speculation is that it'll flock to Newt, but I'm having a hard time seeing that in light of the new accusations. Newt's a serial philanderer, so dumping Cain to support him doesn't seem like much of a step up.

274 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:44:23am

re: #270 wrenchwench

That was Allred's partner, not "the boyfriend".

well, he's irrelevant

275 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:44:26am

re: #258 Killgore Trout

Maybe they're just resting.

They're probably pining for the fjords.

Or they got so agitated they knocked themselves out on the bars of the cage.

276 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:44:26am

A first for Occupy Atlanta: felony charges

Brandon Wojcik-Tremblay was charged with aggravated assault and obstruction. Police said he assaulted a motorcycle officer.

Members of Occupy Atlanta posted video of the confrontation on YouTube. They claim the officer tried to run over several protestors.

Here's a pretty good mugshot from an arrest for assault last summer: [Link: www.bustedmugshots.com...]

277 Lidanghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:44:27am

re: #265 wozzablog

If Cain's "vote" deserts him - where does it possibly go?. Straight back to "Merry" Perry?

Perry just had Bill Clinton defend him on immigration. He's toast.

I think the wingnuts are looking at Newt as the alternative to Cain, which is hilarious because Newt has his own set of problems.

278 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:45:26am

re: #276 Killgore Trout

A first for Occupy Atlanta: felony charges

Here's a pretty good mugshot from an arrest for assault last summer: [Link: www.bustedmugshots.com...]

Sorry, "Disorderly conduct"

279 Felineghazi, Caliph of the Conservative Jihad  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:45:31am

re: #260 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Oh yes, it's bound to. And at that point, I will defend him from those dumb bigots.

Sad, though, he could have avoided all of this.

I presume by that you mean defend him from the attacks based on prejudice and race, not from anything justly deserved based upon actual actions?

280 Alouenghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:46:25am

Here's the spam from AFP. The utter mendacity is jaw dropping.

This week, the United States Senate is expected to finally vote on overturning the most brazen of all of the Obama administration’s regulatory power grabs. The FCC’s outrageous net neutrality order is set to take effect on November 20.

Fortunately, the Senate is poised to vote on blocking it.

Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, the lead sponsor of S.J.Res.6, the vehicle for stopping this power grab, and Republican Leader Mitch McConnell have brilliantly used the procedural tools available to them to force a Senate floor vote that cannot be filibustered. All 47 Republicans are likely to vote yes, with Senator Olympia Snowe of Maine – who supports network neutrality – signing on as a cosponsor because she objects to the FCC attempting an end-run around Congress.

The question now is whether just four Democrats will vote to stop this power grab, and force Obama to use the veto pen and take personal responsibility if he insists on regulating the Internet.

This is crunch time. If the FCC can get away with this, then federal bureaucrats can disregard the Congress and the courts and do almost anything they want. Our representative form of government is at stake.

281 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:46:34am

re: #222 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That's their excuse, she wasn't employed by him at the time?

WTF?

It's a labor lawyer call, but this behavior in relation to a request for employment/assistance makes it questionable.

282 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:46:34am

Cop arrested for assault:

[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

A Philadelphia police officer has been arrested for allegedly assaulting another person while off duty.

Authorities say Alexander was with his girlfriend when he and his girlfriend got involved in a verbal and physical altercation with three females.

After an investigation by the Department's Internal Affairs Bureau and the Philadelphia District Attorney's Office, Alexander was charged with Criminal Conspiracy, Simple Assault and Recklessly Endangering Another Person.

He assaulted women. Way to go, cop. Obviously, police stations are breeding grounds for assault and cities should shut them down. They can't allow the lawlessness to continue.

/

283 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:46:35am

re: #277 Lidane

Perry just had Bill Clinton defend him on immigration. He's toast.

I think the wingnuts are looking at Newt as the alternative to Cain, which is hilarious because Newt has his own set of problems.

True, but as far as I know, he never assaulted or harassed anyone, and his current marriage to the woman who broke up his last marriage is already out in the open. The question is whether or not he'll have a "bimbo eruption."

284 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:47:14am

Allred has a lot of detractors, but Sharon Bialek made a very good decision to hire her as counsel before going public. The Cain campaign can't risk a legal battle with someone like Allred now - they know she's a formidable opponent.

285 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:47:18am

Hippies protest fancy food, get free cookies...
Yes, It's Time to Occupy The French Laundry

Apparently the occupiers thought there were a bunch of Chase bank executives eating inside, but that hasn't been confirmed.

What has been confirmed: the protesters were served cookies at one point, for which they were "grateful." Handing out cookies, by the way, is a patented Thomas Keller move for handling protesters.

286 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:47:44am

re: #282 Obdicut

Cop arrested for assault:

[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

He assaulted women. Way to go, cop. Obviously, police stations are breeding grounds for assault and cities should shut them down. They can't allow the lawlessness to continue.

/

Why has the police not been disbanded? This cannot be allowed to continue indeed.

/

287 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:48:06am

Of course, all this will probably be drowned out by the verdict for Jackson's doctor, since that's how this all tends to go.

288 RadicalModerate  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:48:12am

re: #251 Charles

Cain's new campaign bumper sticker:

Image: hermancain-bumper.jpg

Add this picture to the right border of the bumper sticker and I see a winner.

Image: herman-cain-ad.jpg

289 engineer cat  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:48:20am

freepers reacting to the news conference by smearing gloria allred

290 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:48:51am

re: #284 Charles

Allred has a lot of detractors, but Sharon Bialek made a very good decision to hire her as counsel before going public. The Cain campaign can't risk a legal battle with someone like Allred now - they know she's a formidable opponent.

Considering the mistakes Cain's made so far, going toe to toe with Allred doesn't seem like that much of a stretch.

291 jaunte  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:49:02am

re: #288 RadicalModerate

Creepy slow smile is much creepier now.

292 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:49:04am

re: #289 engineer dog

freepers reacting to the news conference by smearing gloria allred

They are an utterly predictable little herd.

293 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:49:07am

re: #279 oaktree

I presume by that you mean defend him from the attacks based on prejudice and race, not from anything justly deserved based upon actual actions?

Obviously, yes.

He can "blame himself" for whatever is justly deserved -- he's on his own with that. Lynchmob mentality, though, is NEVER justifiable.

294 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:49:22am

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

Criminals usually operate in a community where they fit in. Sexual harassers, I guess, likewise.

Or liars.

;-)

295 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:49:27am

re: #289 engineer dog

freepers reacting to the news conference by smearing gloria allred

I think someone above already speculated that she would provide that kind of deflector shield for her client.

296 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:49:30am

re: #289 engineer dog

freepers reacting to the news conference by smearing gloria allred

Allred is a professional. She makes bucketloads by doing stuff like this. She can handle the smears.

297 Kragarghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:50:15am

re: #288 RadicalModerate

Add this picture to the right border of the bumper sticker and I see a winner.

Image: herman-cain-ad.jpg

Image: HC2.jpg

298 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:51:01am

re: #251 Charles

Cain's new campaign bumper sticker:

Image: hermancain-bumper.jpg

You tell me Nein, Nein, Nein? But I got jobs, jobs, jobs right here in my lap for you, America!

299 Alouenghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:51:03am

re: #297 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Image: HC2.jpg

In "a women" or "a woman"?

300 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:51:49am

re: #297 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Image: HC2.jpg

Complete with bad grammar.

301 recusancy  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:52:03am

re: #282 Obdicut

Cop arrested for assault:

[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

He assaulted women. Way to go, cop. Obviously, police stations are breeding grounds for assault and cities should shut them down. They can't allow the lawlessness to continue.

/

Thank you for your diligent detective work in bringing this to light. I was on the fence in supporting my local police station. But after seeing this I'm sure it is rampant in stations across the country and the world.

Please post every link you can find that relates to this. Bonus points if it's from a Breitbart site.

//

302 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:52:09am

re: #289 engineer dog

freepers reacting to the news conference by smearing gloria allred

This coming out now is a favor to the GOP. If Cain had been nominated, and then it came out, the President's reelection would have been a cinch. Since it came out now, the Romney haters have time to move back to Perry or Gingrich.

303 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:52:13am

Imagine the frantic digging around in Bialek's past now going on at right wing think tanks.

304 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:52:17am

re: #299 Alouette

In "a women" or "a woman"?

Well, it clearly says "a women". Not quite sure what one of those is though, to tell you the truth.

305 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:52:34am

"Ja, ja, JA!!!" plan.

306 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:52:34am

re: #289 engineer dog

freepers reacting to the news conference by smearing gloria allred

Are they saying anything interesting about Bialek?

307 Kragarghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:52:34am

re: #300 darthstar

Complete with bad grammar.

That makes it authentic!

308 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:52:50am

re: #284 Charles

What legal battle. Cain could simply ignore it - "it's been asked, and answered". He and his flacks could simply claim that this was something he previously addressed; he predicted that these kinds of baseless claims would be spouted; and that she's not a credible witness; etc.

If we go by Cain's record in this campaign season, it's that he'll try to ignore the problem, and then deny deny deny. I doubt they'll take a direct shot at or through Allred. She's very good at managing media expectations and maximizing media exposure.

But you know where this is going to hurt most? Not with the TP types who still think that there's nothing wrong, but with the guys who really make the big name donations/bundlers who have to think that Cain's bad jobu and will look for a safer candidate choice than Cain (likely Romney, though it might give Perry a jolt).

Addendum:
And it's not like Cain can't have others smear her on his behalf (Koch protecting their interests, the TP, etc.) He can stand back seemingly above the fray while others sling mud at her.

309 Alexzander  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:53:21am

re: #303 Charles

Imagine the frantic digging around in Bialek's past now going on at right wing think tanks.

Hence why the other accusers wished to stay anonymous.

310 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:53:29am

re: #303 Charles

Imagine the frantic digging around in Bialek's past now going on at right wing think tanks.

The dumpster diving no doubt started the moment Allred spelled out her name for the press. If she so much as got a D on a report card, we're likely to have it rubbed in our faces as "proof" of her dishonesty by week's end.

311 jaunte  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:54:06am

I wonder if Cain will still appear on Jimmy Kimmel's show today.

312 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:54:12am

re: #301 recusancy

The sad part is I could. We do actually have a serious problem with lack of restraint, training, and abuse of power by cops in this country, especially in the area of not understanding the circumstances where it is legal to photograph or record them.

In addition, we have a huge problem of prosecutors and police departments actively being corrupt, being shown to have cooked evidence and investigations, but prosecutors are immune from lawsuits for doing so and normally face no significant penalties even when they're shown to have perverted justice.

313 Donna Ballard  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:54:34am

re: #287 Simply Sarah

Of course, all this will probably be drowned out by the verdict for Jackson's doctor, since that's how this all tends to go.

Nah, CNN's still promising to go live to the court house when the verdict's read, oooh here we go! It coming down real soon! They're just doing a quick run down getting ready for the reading of the verdict. Any time now...

314 iossarian  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:54:36am

Brilliance from RedState (which is bending but not breaking it seems):

When you compare Romney and Cain side-by-side, there is a clear winner. Cain owes a lot of his success to the same kinds of programs that got an unqualified Barack Obama into Columbia University and later Harvard Law School.

It's not enough to sensibly propose that you abandon a political candidate because multiple women are accusing him of sexual harassment and assault when you can also wheel out a handy Affirmative Action whine!

But wait, there's the coup de grace yet to come:

Dear God in heaven, please convince Allen West to run. Please!!

315 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:55:39am

re: #312 Obdicut

The sad part is I could. We do actually have a serious problem with lack of restraint, training, and abuse of power by cops in this country, especially in the area of not understanding the circumstances where it is legal to photograph or record them.

In addition, we have a huge problem of prosecutors and police departments actively being corrupt, being shown to have cooked evidence and investigations, but prosecutors are immune from lawsuits for doing so and normally face no significant penalties even when they're shown to have perverted justice.

But, but, but....hippies!
/

316 Kragarghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:55:52am

re: #311 jaunte

I wonder if Cain will still appear on Jimmy Kimmel's show today.

I would pay good money to have Sarah Silverman show up as the second guest for that.

317 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:56:08am

re: #309 Alexzander

Hence why the other accusers wished to stay anonymous.

If she's telling the truth, and I have no reason to doubt it, it was very brave of her to come forward. If she's a Tea Partier, she's probably going to see her name smeared on all her favorite Fox New Shows, talk radio shows and conservative websites.

318 Donna Ballard  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:56:15am

re: #309 Alexzander

Hence why the other accusers wished to stay anonymous.

No, the others were holding to a out of court settlement that made them sign a document of nondisclosure.

319 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:56:28am

re: #308 lawhawk

But you know where this is going to hurt most? Not with the TP types who still think that there's nothing wrong, but with the guys who really make the big name donations/bundlers who have to think that Cain's bad jobu and will look for a safer candidate choice than Cain (likely Romney, though it might give Perry a jolt).

I suspect New Hampshire will be the new Iowa. If John Huntsman can win there - and he has a big ground game in NH apparently - everyone will drop Romney like a rock and flood him with money...yes, he's still Mormon, but he believes in science, isn't a total nutter, and would be the biggest challenge to Obama from the field - as he used to work for President Obama, so he could run a "positive" campaign while the big money could go negative on Obama.

Additionally, Obama couldn't really go negative on someone he once hired.

320 wrenchwench  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:57:05am

re: #318 Dragon_Lady

No, the others were holding to a out of court settlement that made them sign a document of nondisclosure.

The ones we know about...

321 engineer cat  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:57:33am

re: #306 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Are they saying anything interesting about Bialek?

not really. they seem to be flailing around trying to find the flaw in her statement, e.g. "She didn't call a cab? She felt "harrassed" by this guy but not so much that she was willing to trust being alone in a car with him? "

322 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:57:49am

well now we see where Cain gets the idea that it's their own fault if people are unemployed and aren't rich. Obviously it is this woman's fault because she wouldn't do what was required.

//

323 Alexzander  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:58:05am

re: #318 Dragon_Lady

No, the others were holding to a out of court settlement that made them sign a document of nondisclosure.

Apparently one of them nearly came forward then changed their mind at the last minute.

324 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:58:15am

re: #319 darthstar

I suspect New Hampshire will be the new Iowa. If John Huntsman can win there - and he has a big ground game in NH apparently - everyone will drop Romney like a rock and flood him with money...yes, he's still Mormon, but he believes in science, isn't a total nutter, and would be the biggest challenge to Obama from the field - as he used to work for President Obama, so he could run a "positive" campaign while the big money could go negative on Obama.

Additionally, Obama couldn't really go negative on someone he once hired.

Have you seen the polls? Huntsman's level of support with the base is below the margin of error.

325 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:59:12am

re: #324 aagcobb

Have you seen the polls? Huntsman level of support with the base is below the margin of error.

Thank God.

326 Donna Ballard  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:59:25am

re: #323 Alexzander

Apparently one of them nearly came forward then changed their mind at the last minute.

And I'll bet she's made to pay for it! He'll go after her for breaking the agreement if he's as stupid and slimy as I think he is.

327 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:59:26am

re: #319 darthstar

The money can support Huntsman all they want, but the GOP voters won't.

328 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:59:34am

re: #319 darthstar

Speaking of ground game, Cain's is sorely lacking in most of the early states, and I think Huntsman is betting it on NH (forget the IA caucus, which I think is a mess of a system generally). Huntsman and Romney blend together far too much - he'd have to separate himself more distinctly, and he's well behind in polls and in money. Would be nice but I just don't see it happening.

329 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:59:45am

re: #323 Alexzander

Apparently one of them nearly came forward then changed their mind at the last minute.

which is not surprising given the fact that by coming forward they would most likely face death threats etc.

330 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 11:59:54am

Laura Ingraham levels racism charge against Allred via Twitter:

"Gloria Allred "stimulus pkg" ref 2 Cain is rife w/ racial overtone."

I fail to see how that makes even a tiny bit of sense.

331 zora  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:00:03pm

re: #319 darthstar

Huntsman Quietly Relieved To Be Polling Poorly Among GOP Voters
'These People Scare The Bejeezus Out Of Me,' Says Candidate

"They're terrifying. We're talking about people who blame the unemployed for their own predicament and literally applaud the idea of letting those who don't have health insurance die. What would it say about me if they gravitated toward me personally or approved of my political principles?" Huntsman added that it was a huge weight off his shoulders when Herman Cain surged ahead of him in the polls, noting that it could easily have been him

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

332 darthstar  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:00:21pm

re: #324 aagcobb

Have you seen the polls? Huntsman's level of support with the base is below the margin of error.

It's not the base he's relying on...it's the moderate Republicans who will vote in NH...I suppose his hope is that they still outnumber the nutjobs in the GOP.

333 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:00:33pm

re: #323 Alexzander

Apparently one of them nearly came forward then changed their mind at the last minute.

Oh, come on. Who doesn't want everything they've ever done hauled up and put on public display?

I, for one, have absolutely nothing that I regret in my past, nothing I would change, no people who might not like me so much.

(Let's be blunt: I would have to be a stinking embryo for this to be true.)

334 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:00:34pm

re: #327 Obdicut

The money can support Huntsman all they want, but the GOP voters won't.

The GOP voters apparently have no clue who they want to support. The smart, reasonable ones may support Romney, but they're being drowned out by the "Anybody-But-Romney" contingent that is flitting from candidate to candidate with each passing month.

335 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:01:25pm

re: #331 zora

Huntsman Quietly Relieved To Be Polling Poorly Among GOP Voters
'These People Scare The Bejeezus Out Of Me,' Says Candidate

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

heh

336 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:01:43pm

re: #332 darthstar

It's not the base he's relying on...it's the moderate Republicans who will vote in NH...I suppose his hope is that they still outnumber the nutjobs in the GOP.

Those people will vote for Romney.

337 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:01:54pm

re: #330 makeitstop

Laura Ingraham levels racism charge against Allred via Twitter:


I fail to see how that makes even a tiny bit of sense.

well obviously it was using a stereotype because in wingnut land the stimulus package was too big and we all know that black men are well endowed...

//

338 zora  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:02:21pm

re: #330 makeitstop

so white men don't have packages. laura ingraham must explain this to us.

339 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:02:28pm

re: #330 makeitstop

Laura Ingraham levels racism charge against Allred via Twitter:

I fail to see how that makes even a tiny bit of sense.

Racial?

Decidedly sexual, and it seems slightly tacky, but I don't see the race aspect. Might be missing it.

340 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:02:44pm

re: #331 zora

Huntsman Quietly Relieved To Be Polling Poorly Among GOP Voters
'These People Scare The Bejeezus Out Of Me,' Says Candidate

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

These are not the droids I've been looking for.

341 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:02:57pm

re: #330 makeitstop

Laura Ingraham levels racism charge against Allred via Twitter:

I fail to see how that makes even a tiny bit of sense.

After hearing more than one wingnut make jokes about Obama's "stimulus package," seeing them get upset about Allred using the phrase lacks sincerity.

342 celticdragon  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:03:23pm

re: #317 aagcobb

If she's telling the truth, and I have no reason to doubt it, it was very brave of her to come forward. If she's a Tea Partier, she's probably going to see her name smeared on all her favorite Fox New Shows, talk radio shows and conservative websites.

I'm pretty sure that Ms Alred already advised her client that her speaking engagments with the Tea Party are done forever, not to mention that her "allies" will attack her for years to come.

Given that, it only underscores her credibility in my view. The seriousness of what he did validates her decision to come out and sacrifice her standing with the right wing GOP.

343 Felineghazi, Caliph of the Conservative Jihad  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:03:29pm

And I sit here and just wish that a bunch of people crouched over keyboards typing comments critical of this woman suddenly stop and wonder about what they are actually defending.

And I wonder if there are now more conservatives wondering whether the loyalty litmus test is actually becoming something more than shared political goals.

344 Charles Johnson  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:03:45pm

Just had someone email me a claim that Bialek was lying about being registered Republican.

345 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:03:47pm

re: #339 SanFranciscoZionist

Racial?

Decidedly sexual, and it seems slightly tacky, but I don't see the race aspect. Might be missing it.

Well, you knew that one or another conservative had to charge racism.

Maybe it was Ingraham's turn. Kinda flubbed it, though.

346 albusteve  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:04:03pm

re: #330 makeitstop

Laura Ingraham levels racism charge against Allred via Twitter:

I fail to see how that makes even a tiny bit of sense.

it doesn't ave to make sense...where have you been bro?

347 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:04:20pm

re: #344 Charles

Just had someone email me a claim that Bialek was lying about being registered Republican.

Did you ask them if it hurt when they pulled that one out of their ass?

348 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:04:33pm

re: #344 Charles

Just had someone email me a claim that Bialek was lying about being registered Republican.

that didn't take long. how much longer before we know what her counter-tops look like?

349 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:04:44pm

re: #330 makeitstop

Laura Ingraham levels racism charge against Allred via Twitter:

I fail to see how that makes even a tiny bit of sense.

Lol white conservative bigots, racism chasing.

Film at 11.

350 jaunte  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:04:58pm

Michael Barone:

Can Cain Keep Flouting the Cardinal Rules of Politics?
"Cain’s stance as a non-politician who refuses to obey the rules of the great game of politics is at least momentarily a political asset in a year when opinion about conventional politicians of both parties is near an all-time low.
...snip...
I’m still inclined to think Cain’s support will evaporate sooner or later. But for a moment Friday, the thought occurred to me that I was sitting next to a future president of the United States."

Oops.

351 Simply Sarah  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:05:49pm

re: #344 Charles

Just had someone email me a claim that Bialek was lying about being registered Republican.

Yeah. It's not like there's any way we can confirm that!
/

352 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:06:13pm

re: #339 SanFranciscoZionist

Racial?

Decidedly sexual, and it seems slightly tacky, but I don't see the race aspect. Might be missing it.

I found it tacky. It's not at all racist. Unless only black men have a package.

353 Kragarghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:06:31pm

re: #338 zora

so white men don't have packages. laura ingraham must explain this to us.

It must be from her own personal experience.

354 Donna Ballard  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:06:38pm

re: #344 Charles

Just had someone email me a claim that Bialek was lying about being registered Republican.

Surprise, surprise. And so it begins, the smear job is going to be thick and furious. Shame on them, but it doesn't surprise me one iota!

355 webevintage  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:06:59pm

re: #303 Charles

Imagine the frantic digging around in Bialek's past now going on at right wing think tanks.

I'm sure Malkin is, at this very moment, skulking around her house and checking out her counter tops.

356 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:07:08pm

re: #345 makeitstop

Well, you knew that one or another conservative had to charge racism.

Maybe it was Ingraham's turn. Kinda flubbed it, though.

Ingrahm's turn, again.

Shes' the genius that started the bigots parroting "he's the only black man in the race", bullshyt they don't even believe themselves.

357 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:07:31pm

re: #354 Dragon_Lady

Surprise, surprise. And so it begins, the smear job is going to be thick and furious. Shame on them, but it doesn't surprise me one iota!

They have no shame.

358 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:07:32pm

What does Breitbart have to say about his favorite candidate?

359 Donna Ballard  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:08:03pm

re: #357 aagcobb

They have no shame.

Yeah, that I can believe!

360 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:08:22pm

re: #352 Obdicut

I found it tacky. It's not at all racist. Unless only black men have a package.

It's well known that black men have BIGGER stimulus packages.

///

361 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:08:30pm

re: #352 Obdicut

I found it tacky. It's not at all racist. Unless only black men have a package.

It was a lot funnier when Wanda Sykes said it about what Obama must tell Michelle.

362 Firstinla  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:09:51pm

re: #360 SanFranciscoZionist

It's well known that black men have BIGGER stimulus packages.

///

So are we now going to hear about 9-9-9-NINE?

363 jaunte  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:10:15pm

re: #358 Sergey Romanov

'Big Journalism' is blank on today's developments.

364 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:10:20pm

Heh. Read in reverse order, bottom-up.

Tammy Bruce
HeyTammyBruce Tammy Bruce
Implores Cain to "make this right." He really must admit and apologize and then perhaps he can move forward
1 hour ago
»
Tammy Bruce
HeyTammyBruce Tammy Bruce
Did not file a complaint as she wasn't employed by NRA education foundation when this occurred, wants Cain to come clean
1 hour ago
»
Tammy Bruce
HeyTammyBruce Tammy Bruce
She saw him at a Tea Party event last month, she asked if he remembered her, he looked embarrassed and admitted he remembered.
1 hour ago
»
Tammy Bruce
HeyTammyBruce Tammy Bruce
This during a time when she's trying to get a job. Horrible.
1 hour ago
»
Tammy Bruce
HeyTammyBruce Tammy Bruce
She just relayed how Cain grabbed at her 'genitals' then tried to push her head toward his crotch
1 hour ago
»
Tammy Bruce
HeyTammyBruce Tammy Bruce
As a friend just noted to me, this woman does not sound like a liar, she's very credible. This is very bad news for Cain
1 hour ago

[Link: twitter.com...]

365 celticdragon  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:10:26pm

re: #358 Sergey Romanov

What does Breitbart have to say about his favorite candidate?

He is waiting to send James O'Keefe over to Ms Bialeks place to lure her to a boat loaded with handcuffs and sex toys...

It worked so well last time, after all.

366 erik_t  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:10:35pm

re: #319 darthstar

I suspect New Hampshire will be the new Iowa. If John Huntsman can win there - and he has a big ground game in NH apparently - everyone will drop Romney like a rock and flood him with money...yes, he's still Mormon, but he believes in science, isn't a total nutter, and would be the biggest challenge to Obama from the field - as he used to work for President Obama, so he could run a "positive" campaign while the big money could go negative on Obama.

Additionally, Obama couldn't really go negative on someone he once hired.

I would like to emigrate to your dreamworld.

367 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:10:50pm

Here's a lovely comment at Fox Nation:

"It just goes to show how low Sharon Bialek will stoop to get a spread in Playboy."

368 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:11:25pm

re: #360 SanFranciscoZionist

It's well known that black men have BIGGER stimulus packages.

///

When the words "black man" is uttered, bigot autocorrect translates to "dick".

I'm actually surprised there haven't been that many HC dick jokes, at least not that I've seen. I bet we'll be hearing a lot more after today.

369 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:11:38pm

re: #367 aagcobb

Here's a lovely comment at Fox Nation:

"It just goes to show how low Sharon Bialek will stoop to get a spread in Playboy."

Stay Classy, Fox Nation.

/Ugh.

370 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:11:42pm

re: #360 SanFranciscoZionist

It's well known that black men have BIGGER stimulus packages.

///

And Jewish men, and Arabs, and whoever the hell whitey was afraid of that season.

/

371 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:12:19pm

Waiting anxiously for Buck to explain all this to me.

372 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:12:29pm

re: #367 aagcobb

Here's a lovely comment at Fox Nation:

"It just goes to show how low Sharon Bialek will stoop to get a spread in Playboy."

She's an antivaxxer too?

373 RadicalModerate  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:13:13pm

The creeps commenting are coming out in force in response to this story:

From Hot Air:

Someone needs to kneecap Gloria Allred

From FoxNation:

GLORIA ALLRED NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME ! IT IS PEOPLE LIKE HER THAT ARE BRINGING THIS COUNTRY DOWN, THIS --S K A N K-- AND THOSES LIKE HER WILL GET THEIR JUST REWARDS

Allred is just mad because no one will grope her...

374 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:13:40pm

Can we stop corrupting the language? A package is something that arrives on your doorstep, courtesy of UPS. In a brown box. A very non-sexual brown box.

375 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:14:15pm

re: #374 EmmmieG

A very non-sexual brown box.

Depends on what's in the box.

376 Felineghazi, Caliph of the Conservative Jihad  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:14:20pm

re: #351 Simply Sarah

Yeah. It's not like there's any way we can confirm that!
/

She's a sleeper agent. Planted in 1995 just to handle this situation!

377 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:14:53pm

The racists are commenting on Fox Nation as well:

"Well, this not unusal for african men. Their goal since the 60s and special rights came to them is to harass, intimidate, and attack caucasian women and thumb their noses up at the caucasian men who are suppose to be protecting these women. If she is caucasian, Cain loses in a landslide. If she is african or african mix, Cain still has a shot. I would suggest this woman sue and get all the money she can from him so we can start to send a message to these special rights folks."

378 Kragarghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:14:58pm

OT, I found a reason for me to buy a modded iPhone finally.

Image: fanart-cosplay-iphone-pip-boy.jpg

379 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:15:01pm

re: #376 oaktree

Makes one wonder who is being planted right now for 2027.

380 webevintage  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:15:06pm

re: #375 Obdicut

Depends on what's in the box.

Or who is delivering it....

381 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:15:30pm

re: #374 EmmmieG

Can we stop corrupting the language? A package is something that arrives on your doorstep, courtesy of UPS. In a brown box. A very non-sexual brown box.

marked "sporting goods"

382 iossarian  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:15:39pm

re: #374 EmmmieG

corrupting ... A package ... on your [deleted] ... brown box ...

I think I need to go for a lie down now.

383 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:15:53pm

re: #376 oaktree

Hey, if they could plant a fake notice in the Honolulu paper back in 1961, they could do anything!

384 Donna Ballard  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:15:56pm

You know, this whole mentality of blaming the victim and turning them into the bad guy is just ridiculous and a real symptom of the illness that society is suffering today, especially the leaders of our government. It seems to me that as soon as they get elected their brains and common sense just turn to mush and their egos take over. Its a very sad situation that needs to be addressed, but I'm afraid it never will. There's just no such thing as an honest politician, CEO, CFO or anyone else in a position of power anymore.

385 makeitstopghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:15:59pm

re: #381 wozzablog

marked "sporting goods"

Or 'reading material.'

386 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:16:10pm

re: #374 EmmmieG

Can we stop corrupting the language? A package is something that arrives on your doorstep, courtesy of UPS. In a brown box. A very non-sexual brown box.

I'd downding you for the racial assumption, but UPS is employee-managed, so you can skate.

387 Felineghazi, Caliph of the Conservative Jihad  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:16:30pm

re: #381 wozzablog

marked "sporting goods"

Batteries not included.

388 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:16:43pm

re: #377 aagcobb

The racists are commenting on Fox Nation as well:

"Well, this not unusal for african men. Their goal since the 60s and special rights came to them is to harass, intimidate, and attack caucasian women and thumb their noses up at the caucasian men who are suppose to be protecting these women. If she is caucasian, Cain loses in a landslide. If she is african or african mix, Cain still has a shot. I would suggest this woman sue and get all the money she can from him so we can start to send a message to these special rights folks."

Well. Nice to see that someone is supporting the victim over there.

///Wish it wasn't racist freaks...

389 webevintage  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:17:54pm

re: #384 Dragon_Lady

You know, this whole mentality of blaming the victim and turning them into the bad guy is just ridiculous and a real symptom of the illness that society is suffering today, especially the leaders of our government.

and people wonder why a woman would rather just take a settlement then publicly accuse someone of harassment or assault or even rape (still in 2011) or for that matter not come forward at all.

390 Donna Ballard  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:18:02pm

re: #367 aagcobb

Here's a lovely comment at Fox Nation:

"It just goes to show how low Sharon Bialek will stoop to get a spread in Playboy."

Oh. My. God. I think I'll go get sick now. Shame on you FOX Nation. Shame on all of you for allowing that to be aired. Shame, shame, shame!

391 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:19:08pm

re: #378 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OT, I found a reason for me to buy a modded iPhone finally.

Image: fanart-cosplay-iphone-pip-boy.jpg

Going to travel the wastes, eh?

392 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:19:10pm

re: #377 aagcobb

The racists are commenting on Fox Nation as well:

"Well, this not unusal for african men. Their goal since the 60s and special rights came to them is to harass, intimidate, and attack caucasian women and thumb their noses up at the caucasian men who are suppose to be protecting these women. If she is caucasian, Cain loses in a landslide. If she is african or african mix, Cain still has a shot. I would suggest this woman sue and get all the money she can from him so we can start to send a message to these special rights folks."

Oh but that must be a liberal plant, or from Foxnation.com at the Wayback Machine of 1912, back when it was a democrat margaret sanger kkk site.

No conservative thinks that way, today!

393 aagcobb  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:19:55pm

Watch out for the whiplash you get from this Fox Nation comment:

"The liberals and the Liberal media don't EVER prove anything with backup or evidence. They just spew out the lie's and make pointed accusations and destroy people's character. That’s what they do best,. They can not win on facts or their history, they have to win in a mud fight. This w h o r e was probably paid handsomely to come out with these lies, she obviously doesn't have a moral bone in he body, JUST GIVE ME SOME MONEY AND I WILL DESTROY ANYBODY YOU WANT ME TO, but the real point is, THE DAMAGE IS DONE."

394 RadicalModerate  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:21:22pm

re: #377 aagcobb

The racists are commenting on Fox Nation as well:

"Well, this not unusal for african men. Their goal since the 60s and special rights came to them is to harass, intimidate, and attack caucasian women and thumb their noses up at the caucasian men who are suppose to be protecting these women. If she is caucasian, Cain loses in a landslide. If she is african or african mix, Cain still has a shot. I would suggest this woman sue and get all the money she can from him so we can start to send a message to these special rights folks."

Coming from just about anywhere other than Brietbart or FoxNation, I'd swear up and down that was a deliberate troll post. However, seeing the level of dogwhistles I see there on a regular basis, I honestly can't make that claim here.

395 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:23:13pm

re: #388 SanFranciscoZionist

Well. Nice to see that someone is supporting the victim over there.

///Wish it wasn't racist freaks...

Lynchmob mentality is never about supporting the victim.

396 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:24:07pm

re: #393 aagcobb

Watch out for the whiplash you get from this Fox Nation comment:

"The liberals and the Liberal media don't EVER prove anything with backup or evidence. They just spew out the lie's and make pointed accusations and destroy people's character. That’s what they do best,. They can not win on facts or their history, they have to win in a mud fight. This w h o r e was probably paid handsomely to come out with these lies, she obviously doesn't have a moral bone in he body, JUST GIVE ME SOME MONEY AND I WILL DESTROY ANYBODY YOU WANT ME TO, but the real point is, THE DAMAGE IS DONE."

I am imagining that person actually crying as they wrote that - Herman has a *lot* of people invested emotionally in him, for reasons that defy all logic.

397 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:24:44pm

re: #396 wozzablog

I am imagining that person actually crying as they wrote that - Herman has a *lot* of people invested emotionally in him, for reasons that defy all logic.

they really don't want romney! :D

398 Kragarghazi  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:26:39pm

re: #391 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Going to travel the wastes, eh?

It looks like we're heading that way.

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

399 justaminute  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:27:32pm

There is some reporting that Ms. Bialek stated that the last time she encountered Cain was at a Tea Party event. Interesting. From all the NRA females I have encountered at Food Shows and other events over the years they pretty much were white and blond too. She is pretty typical. And the NRA is very very Republican. No surprise there.

400 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:28:08pm

re: #167 Obdicut

There is one part that is factually checkable: her boyfriend booking the room and Cain upgrading it. I assume someone will investigate that, but if that's true, it definitely is weird as shit-- if Cain only met the woman a couple times before, splashing out like that is kind of odd.

What was this part? I missed it.

401 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:29:37pm

re: #400 000G

She said that her boyfriend booked the room for her, and when she got there it was a fancy suite. She assumed her boyfriend had booked her a very fancy room to be nice, without telling her. When she met with Cain, he asked her how she liked the room, and told her he upgraded her.

402 sagehen  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:29:58pm

re: #339 SanFranciscoZionist

Racial?

Decidedly sexual, and it seems slightly tacky, but I don't see the race aspect. Might be missing it.

Because "stimulus" is clearly meant to reference Obama, who is also black. See?

// (ashamed of myself that I could parse her logic)

403 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:34:01pm

re: #273 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The speculation is that it'll flock to Newt, but I'm having a hard time seeing that in light of the new accusations. Newt's a serial philanderer, so dumping Cain to support him doesn't seem like much of a step up.

The John Edwards candidacy worked so well last time out.

404 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:35:05pm

re: #202 RadicalModerate

Good grief. Michelle Malkin is going absolutely apoplectic over on her site regarding this news conference.

Watching the female wingnuts react to this is certainly a bizarre mix of entertainment and enlightenment.

405 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:38:21pm

Wow:

@CainStaff Cain Staff
Welcome to the campaign, Gloria Allred. What took you so long? #Iowa fund ==> tinyurl.com/656hun8 #iacaucus

[Link: twitter.com...]

406 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:45:54pm

re: #213 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The Right will circle the wagons, but as noted earlier, it's going to turn into a circular firing squad. The more they try to defend Cain, the more distasteful they become to everybody else.

The MSM will not dictate who our candidate is going to be ! Reagan Revolution 2.0!

407 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 12:58:00pm

re: #232 RadicalModerate

And here's why the idiot from the Howard Stern show was acting like a fool at the news conference:

Howard Stern To The Rescue! Herman Cain Sexual Harassment Scandal Is ‘A Smear Job’

Saw Stern's takedowns of OWS the other day, too. He's a wingnut?

408 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 1:19:43pm

re: #305 Sergey Romanov

"Ja, ja, JA!!!" plan.

"Oh doch, oh doch, OH DOCH!" plan.

409 Obdicut  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 1:21:35pm

re: #407 000G

Stern is just a jackass. Probably more 'libertarian' than anything else.

410 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 1:27:09pm

re: #322 Dreggas

well now we see where Cain gets the idea that it's their own fault if people are unemployed and aren't rich. Obviously it is this woman's fault because she wouldn't do what was required.

//

Waiting for a video montage of that.

411 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 1:39:08pm

re: #375 Obdicut

Depends on what's in the box.

Or what's not. The emptier it is, the more I can stick into it.

412 Buck  Mon, Nov 7, 2011 5:19:40pm

re: #371 000G

Waiting anxiously for Buck to explain all this to me.

Which part are you unclear about?

413 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Nov 8, 2011 7:26:40am

re: #412 Buck

Which part are you unclear about?

The part about how none of this means anything except that liberals are racists.


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