Wow, talk about a prized endorsement! Mitt Romney and Meat Loaf!
Here we see the great Mr. Loaf “interpreting” America the Beautiful, all up in Mitt Romney’s face. I’ll bet the Governor truly enjoyed that and wasn’t faking it at all!
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:16:42am |
Not as good as Jimi Hendrix, I'm afraid:
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Destro Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:19:04am |
Meat Loaf endorses Mitt Romney with the logic of a crazy homeless personOct 26, 2012 at 7:03 am PDT
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Randall Gross Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:21:04am |
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makeitstop Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:21:57am |
I have to believe he was completely smashed.
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SteveMcG Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:22:08am |
I mentioned it on the last thread, but it seems Mitt's foreign policy stiffened Meat's leg.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:22:10am |
Ground game: Florida Division of Elections has reported out their closed voter registration season. New Dems 4,781,978. Repubs 4,245,991.
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Big Joe Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:22:33am |
Don't worry, we can clean it up in the studio later.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:23:41am |
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:24:19am |
OMG, my ears, am I bleeding?
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EmmaAnne Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:25:04am |
Oh . . . dear. That is not a reassuring spectacle.
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SteveMcG Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:25:35am |
There's gotta be something we can sell to all these Romney supporters. They're obviously ready to buy anything.
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makeitstop Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:25:39am |
Not for nothing, but someone did a Howard Dean on that clip - isolating Meat from the sound board. The other clips I've seen didn't have his voice that far in front of the mix.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:25:39am |
I know very few people will agree with me on this one. I would rather see and hear Itzhak Pearlman playing The Star Spangled Banner.
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:26:16am |
Yet another cut from Meat's newest album, Batshit Out of Hell
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Amory Blaine Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:27:06am |
Meatloaf embarrasses Mitt Romney with bad singing.
Mostly false.
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Shiplord Kirel Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:28:26am |
re: #13 SteveMcG
There's gotta be something we can sell to all these Romney supporters. They're obviously ready to buy anything.
Ammunition. They're still buying it by the carload, including large consignments from foreign countries like Egypt and China.
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R.M, Ramallo Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:29:30am |
How should I put this...
BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!
{{Snort. Snort}}
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!
Everyone looks mortified.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:29:44am |
re: #17 Amory Blaine
Meatloaf embarrasses Mitt Romney with bad singing.
Mostly false.
"Meat Loaf's singing truly was awful and embarrassing. But Mitt Romney appeared quite comfortable and happy, and gave no sign of being embarrassed. Therefore, we rate this claim Mostly False."
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Amory Blaine Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:30:28am |
re: #18 Shiplord Kirel
Ammunition. They're still buying it by the carload, including large consignments from foreign countries like Egypt and China.
If they make ammo like they make drywall there should be plenty of fireworks.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:32:02am |
re: #21 Amory Blaine
If they make ammo like they make drywall there should be plenty of fireworks.
No, because the PLA buys ammo from the same plants. Chinese rifle ammo, unlike some other things made there, has so far always been manufactured with proper quality control.
BBL
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:32:08am |
re: #13 SteveMcG
There's gotta be something we can sell to all these Romney supporters. They're obviously ready to buy anything.
How about the details of 1 million facebook users for $50.00...(gotta make a profit after all)
Details of 1 million Facebook users sold for $5
"I just bought more than 1 million ... Facebook data entries. OMG!" wrote Bogomil Shopov, a blogger and digital-rights activist, on his blog Tuesday.
Shopov said the data contained names, user IDs and email addresses which were not all publicly available — and that Facebook later asked him to delete his post detailing the purchase.
"We would like you to send us this file, delete it, tell us if you have given a copy of it to someone, give us the website from which you bought it including all transactions with it and the payment system and remove a couple of things from your blog," a Facebook employee from the "policy" department allegedly told Shopov. "Oh and by the way, you are not allowed to disclose any part of this conversation; it is a secret that we are even having this conversation."
Well obviously that didn't work...
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Randall Gross Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:35:11am |
Mother Jones has a celebrity donor comparison article up as well :
[Link: www.motherjones.com...]
Tarantino - Obama, Bilbo - Romney
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efuseakay Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:35:25am |
What a ringing endorsement. My ears will be ringing for a week after hearing that.
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Amory Blaine Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:36:08am |
re: #22 Dark_Falcon
No, because the PLA buys ammo from the same plants. Chinese rifle ammo, unlike some other things made there, has so far always been manufactured with proper quality control.
BBL
My comment was meant to be tongue in cheek. Sorry about that. I have no doubt the authorities in China maintain quality controls on their bullets.
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sauceruney Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:40:18am |
Meat Loaf throws Dr. Frank N. Furter & Rocky under the wheels of Mitt Romney's campaign bus huff.to/WO1qO9 #equality #LGBT #RHPS— chris joseph (@sauceruney) October 26, 2012
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Charles Johnson Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:41:13am |
Excellent -- since installing the caching system for comments older than 7 days, my log tells me that the system has now served more than 250 megabytes out of the cache, instead of pulling it out of the database. And that's for less than one day. At this rate, the cache will save more than 2 gigabytes of data transfer per week. That will have a major positive effect on database performance.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:42:21am |
re: #18 Shiplord Kirel
Ammunition. They're still buying it by the carload, including large consignments from foreign countries like Egypt and China.
And Israel
[Link: svr79.ehostpros.com...]
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:43:03am |
A beautiful rainbow
Look at all the enthusiasm gap for Obama today in NH twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/…”
— BWD (@theonlyadult) October 27, 2012
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SteveMcG Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:43:09am |
re: 30 Charles Johnson
I so wish I knew what you are talking about. Well, I guess I know sort of what you mean, but I wish I understood it. I'm glad coding isn't like making sausage.
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R.M, Ramallo Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:43:22am |
re: #20 Charles Johnson
"Meat Loaf's singing truly was awful and embarrassing. But Mitt Romney appeared quite comfortable and happy, and gave no sign of being embarrassed. Therefore, we rate this claim Mostly False."
Mitt was just relieved that someone actually sings worse than him.
//
Frankly, based on the size and frequency of the BS Mitt keeps flinging at us, I doubt anything embarrasses him.
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efuseakay Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:44:41am |
re: #1 Dark_Falcon
Not as good as Jimi Hendrix, I'm afraid:
[Embedded content]
But Meatloaf has legit fame!
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Amory Blaine Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:46:54am |
Sununu backs off remark on Powell endorsement of Obama
I like how the sycophants in the "liberal" media gives assholes a platform for damage control after they spew vile shit. Jeepers H Crackers, it's like an everyday thing now.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:48:07am |
re: #30 Charles Johnson
Not sure if this is new to the Pages rewrite-but this morning I notice nice round corners on the images I uploaded into a Page I just put up. Nice. I said it before, still I'm loving 400k
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Skip Intro Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:52:18am |
What is a "Meat Loaf", and why is it "singing"? Was Turd Pudding too busy to show?
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makeitstop Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:52:56am |
re: #36 Amory Blaine
Sununu backs off remark on Powell endorsement of Obama
I like how the sycophants in the "liberal" media gives assholes a platform for damage control after they spew vile shit. Jeepers H Crackers, it's like an everyday thing now.
I have an opinion on Sununu, but I value my membership here at LGF so I'll refrain from posting it.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:54:46am |
I doubt that anyone is suing the Obama campaign for using their music. With Romney however, well this article says it all.
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blueraven Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:55:49am |
Ok that voice reminded me a bit of the Cowardly Lion in The Wizard of Oz, but meatloaf was out of tune and off key.
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Amory Blaine Sat, Oct 27, 2012 11:58:26am |
The republican platform goes against almost every creed of rock and roll. I doubt Neil Young approves of vouchers for the elderly.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:03:33pm |
re: #22 Dark_Falcon
No, because the PLA buys ammo from the same plants. Chinese rifle ammo, unlike some other things made there, has so far always been manufactured with proper quality control.
BBL
Good to know how China sets it's priorities. Ammunition-Good to excellent.
Products for use and consumption in the United States? Not So Much. Leaded or cadmium toys anyone?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:06:18pm |
re: #43 Daniel Ballard
Leaded or cadmium toys anyone?
Can I have mine with a dash of mercury, please?
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nines09 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:06:30pm |
Meat has apparently let it Loaf. Next up; "Snake Handlers For Romney."
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sauceruney Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:06:45pm |
This scene will never be the same again...
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:09:14pm |
re: #44 sattv4u2
Leaded or cadmium toys anyone?
Can I have mine with a dash of mercury, please?
Yes sir and thank you for investing in Foxconn PRC.
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wrenchwench Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:12:32pm |
Some of the spectators are going to catch flies.
Girls kiss in front of anti-gay protest. Joyous twitter.com/jordfrance/sta... (from @jordfrance)— Tim Minchin (@timminchin) October 27, 2012
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:14:42pm |
re: #48 wrenchwench
Some of the spectators are going to catch flies.
[Embedded content]
Is it just me, or is there something missing from the crowd?
(cough {men} cough)
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:14:49pm |
Chuck Grassley tweeted about hitting a deer in his Prius (another tweet episode coming on that I'm sure)
Someone asked him about the deer, he said he didn't have a flashlight so assumed it died.
And now this:
Flashlight the least of your concerns. RT @chuckgrassley Followers concerned about condition of dear.I didn't hv a flashlight to check.
— Grassley'sZombieDeer (@ChuckZombieDeer) October 27, 2012
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sagehen Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:15:22pm |
Honey Boo-Boo also endorses Obama; that has to diminish him at least as much as Oprah and Will.I.Am.'s support enhances him.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:15:45pm |
re: #48 wrenchwench
Some of the spectators are going to catch flies.
[Embedded content]
Damn product placement.
Boycott Coca Cola!!1!
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:16:46pm |
re: #50 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
Chuck Grassley tweeted about hitting a deer in his Prius (another tweet episode coming on that I'm sure)
Someone asked him about the deer, he said he didn't have a flashlight so assumed it died.
And now this:
[Embedded content]
I want photo evidence
no, not of the deer
of the condition of the Prius!!
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R.M, Ramallo Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:18:21pm |
re: #48 wrenchwench
Some of the spectators are going to catch flies.
[Embedded content]
BOOO!!!
We hate love!!!
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:19:50pm |
re: #53 sattv4u2
I remember when my dad hit a doe with his old Grand Marquis. He had to get his right headlight replaced. He could not brag about the "points."
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Charles Johnson Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:19:52pm |
Mitt Romney is endorsed by singers who can't sing, guitarists who can't play, and comedians who aren't funny.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 27, 2012
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wrenchwench Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:20:11pm |
re: #49 sattv4u2
Is it just me, or is there something missing from the crowd?
(cough {men} cough)
OMG!!! Women gathering to protest homosexuality without their men!! That can't be right!!
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A Mom Anon Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:20:34pm |
re: #10 Dark_Falcon
After I saw Katy Perry do what she did for a little autistic girl on Night of Too Many Stars(a fundraiser for autism education programs) I can forgive her the Russell Brand glitch in her life.
I don't have a link at this moment,go find it on Comedy Central or maybe YouTube. There wasn't a dry eye in the house.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:22:42pm |
re: #55 PhillyPretzel
I remember when my dad hit a doe with his old Grand Marquis. He had to get his right headlight replaced. He could not brag about the "points."
I was driving through Acadia National Park about dusk one night decades ago
Thank god I was going slow,, 15-20 mph or so because around a blind curve, standing smack in the middle of the narrow road was a moose. I came to a stop about 25 yards from him. He lifted his head, looked at me an I swear i heard him say "hhmmfff", let looked away from me and continued just standing there
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b_sharp Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:27:13pm |
re: #50 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
Chuck Grassley tweeted about hitting a deer in his Prius (another tweet episode coming on that I'm sure)
Someone asked him about the deer, he said he didn't have a flashlight so assumed it died.
And now this:
[Embedded content]
I ran over a deer once. I was on ice so I was unable to apply the brakes without getting into an uncontrollable slide, but I tried to drive around it. It moved in front of me anyway and fell under the car. When I managed to stop, I took a few seconds to find a knife so I could put it out of its misery if it were badly injured.
When I went back to find the animal, it was gone. There was no evidence it was bleeding, and I had no idea which direction it took off so I couldn't even follow it to check on it.
They're tougher than they look.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:28:05pm |
re: #57 wrenchwench
OMG!!! Women gathering to protest homosexuality without their men!! That can't be right!!
It's France. A soccer game was on.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:28:18pm |
Wow. I just checked my karma and it went from over seven thousand and it went down to 404. I guess someone really does not like my ideas.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:28:46pm |
All I think of when I hear Meatloaf (after Paradise by the Dashboard Lights) is the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
I just can't see him being political.
Strange world.
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b_sharp Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:29:27pm |
re: #60 sattv4u2
I was driving through Acadia National Park about dusk one night decades ago
Thank god I was going slow,, 15-20 mph or so because around a blind curve, standing smack in the middle of the narrow road was a moose. I came to a stop about 25 yards from him. He lifted his head, looked at me an I swear i heard him say "hhmmfff", let looked away from me and continued just standing there
He was probably thinking 'puny human'.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:29:49pm |
re: #63 PhillyPretzel
Wow. I just checked my karma and it went from over seven thousand and it went down to 404. I guess someone really does not like my ideas.
Yeah, mine seems to have gond down dramatically as well. was up over 30K if I remember correctly --haven't check it in a while.
Oh well, I was here pre-karma ratings anyway, so it was never really accurate.
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:29:50pm |
okay it seems to be back where it was earlier.
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efuseakay Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:30:09pm |
re: #51 sagehen
Honey Boo-Boo also endorses Obama; that has to diminish him at least as much as Oprah and Will.I.Am.'s support enhances him.
The thing is, she can't vote. Meatloaf can.
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b_sharp Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:30:43pm |
re: #63 PhillyPretzel
Wow. I just checked my karma and it went from over seven thousand and it went down to 404. I guess someone really does not like my ideas.
Karma not found error.
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nines09 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:30:53pm |
re: #60 sattv4u2
I was driving through Acadia National Park about dusk one night decades ago
Thank god I was going slow,, 15-20 mph or so because around a blind curve, standing smack in the middle of the narrow road was a moose. I came to a stop about 25 yards from him. He lifted his head, looked at me an I swear i heard him say "hhmmfff", let looked away from me and continued just standing there
You're lucky he wasn't in rut, if it was a bull. You may have had a joust on your hands.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:31:00pm |
re: #63 PhillyPretzel
Wow. I just checked my karma and it went from over seven thousand and it went down to 404. I guess someone really does not like my ideas.
Nope, you're at 7k
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:31:12pm |
re: #48 wrenchwench
Some of the spectators are going to catch flies.
[Embedded content]
Its from a French anti-gay protest, so they added a little frenching to it. ;)
/
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:31:27pm |
re: #68 efuseakay
The thing is, she can't vote. Meatloaf can.
No he can't, you missed the story. Dude isn't registered!!!
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MittDoesNotCompute Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:32:07pm |
re: #63 PhillyPretzel
Wow. I just checked my karma and it went from over seven thousand and it went down to 404. I guess someone really does not like my ideas.
Possible DB glitch?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:32:16pm |
re: #61 b_sharp
They're tougher than they look.
Not if you par boil them then cook them on low heat for a long time!
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PhillyPretzel Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:32:35pm |
re: #71 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
It seems to be okay now. Wow that was something.
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b_sharp Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:32:49pm |
re: #66 Gretchen G.Tiger
Yeah, mine seems to have gond down dramatically as well. was up over 30K if I remember correctly --haven't check it in a while.
Oh well, I was here pre-karma ratings anyway, so it was never really accurate.
You're at 41,489 Karma, silly woman.
More than 1000 pages. Man, are you prolific.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:33:36pm |
re: #76 PhillyPretzel
It seems to be okay now. Wow that was something.
Yeah, mine too --41K
Still trying to figure out how to cash them in. Might need a new toaster some day.
LOL
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nines09 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:34:00pm |
re: #75 sattv4u2
They're tougher than they look.
Not if you par boil them then cook them on low heat for a long time!
Lots of onions!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:34:21pm |
re: #77 b_sharp
You're at 41,489 Karma, silly woman.
More than 1000 pages. Man, are you prolific.
more like time accrued. And a big mouth.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:35:15pm |
re: #80 Gretchen G.Tiger
more like time accrued. And a big mouth.
you type with your mouth?!?!
my, oh my!!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:35:36pm |
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:37:12pm |
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R.M, Ramallo Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:38:03pm |
Deer are always a danger around here.
My brother hit one on the expressway about a year ago, and the story goes, that the thing bounced off the front of the car, hit the windshield, and exploded on the highway.
No one human was hurt, but according to the Highway Patrol guy, it was a good thing that my brother didn't slow down or swerve. It could have been much worse.
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JamesWI Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:38:53pm |
re: #36 Amory Blaine
Sununu backs off remark on Powell endorsement of Obama
I like how the sycophants in the "liberal" media gives assholes a platform for damage control after they spew vile shit. Jeepers H Crackers, it's like an everyday thing now.
And I like how they didn't report on his comments until the next day, giving him the time to "apologize" so they could include that in their story.
Great "liberal" media we have.
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Romantic Heretic Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:39:11pm |
Not watching that. I've already got a somewhat upset stomach. Besides bazooka barfing on my computer isn't likely to do it a lot of good.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:39:52pm |
re: #86 Reverend Mother Ramallo
Deer are always a danger around here.
My brother hit one on the expressway about a year ago, and the story goes, that the thing bounced off the front of the car, hit the windshield, and exploded on the highway.
No one human was hurt, but according to the Highway Patrol guy, it was a good thing that my brother didn't slow down or swerve. It could have been much worse.
Happens every time the deer don't cross where they're supposed too!!
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b_sharp Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:41:02pm |
re: #88 Romantic Heretic
Not watching that. I've already got a somewhat upset stomach. Besides bazooka barfing on my computer isn't likely to do it a lot of good.
I hear ya.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:43:07pm |
People are playing twister to pass time in early voting line. instagr.am/p/RTASsowOka/
— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) October 27, 2012
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R.M, Ramallo Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:43:18pm |
re: #89 sattv4u2
Happens every time the deer don't cross where they're supposed too!!
If only the deer would read the signs.
We nearly hit some illiterate doe last night, and all her friends were giving us the dirty looks!
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DisturbedEma Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:46:58pm |
Ewwww- Flop sweater + sweaty flop= epic fail Meatloaf is like Kid Rock in that both could emerge from the shower/bath and still look unclean. . .
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DisturbedEma Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:49:41pm |
re: #73 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
I saw that, umm ok so I endorse you but I'm not a registered voter? Seems legit. . .:)
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JamesWI Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:50:32pm |
re: #93 DisturbedEma
Ewwww- Flop sweater + sweaty flop= epic fail Meatloaf is like Kid Rock in that both could emerge from the shower/bath and still look unclean. . .
The thing is, if it weren't for Meat Loaf, we'd all be talking about how awful that guy on the left was. But then, good ol' Mr. Loaf comes in and makes us forget all about that guy.
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JamesWI Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:51:27pm |
re: #95 JamesWI
The thing is, if it weren't for Meat Loaf, we'd all be talking about how awful that guy on the left was. But then, good ol' Mr. Loaf comes in and makes us forget all about that guy.
Ah, this video doesn't include the part that I saw, just before Meat Loaf started singing. That other guy was really awful too.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:55:54pm |
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makeitstop Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:59:23pm |
Powell's former Chief of Staff: 'My party is full of Racists'
My party, unfortunately, is the bastion of those people -- not all of them, but most of them -- who are still basing their positions on race. Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists, and the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin, and that's despicable.
I'm betting the Colonel is in for a rough ride the next couple of days.
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JamesWI Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:59:37pm |
And to put the perfect cap on this story:
RT @jkarsh: Ah, the somewhat perfect circle of it all, Meatloaf isn't actually registered to vote. tmz.me/SoM9Qb #p2
— Barracks O'Bama (@P0TUS) October 27, 2012
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 12:59:56pm |
re: #98 Killgore Trout
the radar systems of Khartoum airport were neutralized shortly ahead of the airstrike,"
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wrenchwench Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:07:24pm |
re: #99 makeitstop
Powell's former Chief of Staff: 'My party is full of Racists'
I'm betting the Colonel is in for a rough ride the next couple of days.
I was looking into him earlier. I think he's ridden that rough ride before.
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BongCrodny Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:08:14pm |
The highly coveted Meat Loaf endorsement.
That's gonna sway at least six, maybe seven votes.
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Daniel Ballard Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:11:23pm |
re: #103 BongCrodny
The highly coveted Meat Loaf endorsement.
That's gonna sway at least six, maybe seven votes.
They keep sayin' it's close.
///
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:11:28pm |
re: #103 BongCrodny
The highly coveted Meat Loaf endorsement.
That's gonna sway at least six, maybe seven votes.
And ironically, they're all vegetarians!!
//
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BongCrodny Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:12:44pm |
Mitt Romney and Meat Loaf!
In other words, a Loaf of white bread.
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The Ghost of a Flea Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:14:07pm |
I think I'll wait to see what the tastier varieties of forcemeat have to say about politics. I vote how shawarma and gyros tell me to.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:17:37pm |
Crank up the outrageous outrage machine! Mr. Loaf's not registered to vote in his home state and may even be committing voter fraud!
I Love Mitt
But Can't Vote for Him
The singer -- who moved to Austin earlier this year -- never registered in Texas, according to The Smoking Gun. And the deadline to sign up, October 9, is over and out.
So Meat Loaf -- who stood side-by-side with Romney Thursday (above) and either butchered or honored "America the Beautiful" depending on your ear -- recently requested an absentee ballot from California, the state he abandoned last year.
According to the CA DMV you must be a resident to vote in CA. We don't know if Mr. Loaf got a ballot, but if he did he shouldn't use it.
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Mich-again Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:17:48pm |
re: #108 The Ghost of a Flea
I think I'll wait to see what the tastier varieties of forcemeat have to say about politics. I vote how shawarma and gyros tell me to.
Shawarma already endorsed Obama. Gyros haven't committed yet.
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bratwurst Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:18:37pm |
W/ all this talk of bipartisanship, someone shld ask Romney what he would do if, upon taking WH, Reid said his goal was to ensure 1 term.— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) October 27, 2012
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:19:17pm |
re: #108 The Ghost of a Flea
I think I'll wait to see what the tastier varieties of forcemeat have to say about politics. I vote how shawarma and gyros tell me to.
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Mich-again Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:19:35pm |
re: #109 Killgore Trout
The singer -- who moved to Austin earlier this year -- never registered in Texas, according to The Smoking Gun. And the deadline to sign up, October 9, is over and out.
Disenfranchised Meatloaf.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:19:44pm |
Just read that wingnut blogger Dan Riehl is in a hospital ICU with "respiratory failure," whatever that means.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:20:58pm |
re: #114 Charles Johnson
Just read that wingnut blogger Dan Riehl is in a hospital ICU with "respiratory failure," whatever that means.
It's a very serious condition
freind of mine had it
[Link: www.nhlbi.nih.gov...]
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b_sharp Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:21:15pm |
I just noticed Sununu's supposed retraction of the race card played against Powell.
Sununu backed off his remarks shortly after his CNN appearance, issuing a statement that said Powell is a friend and, “I respect the endorsement decision he made, and I do not doubt that it was based on anything but his support of the President’s policies."
Let's unpack that a bit.
"and I do not doubt"
Is equivalent to "I believe"
"it was based on anything but"
Is equivalent to:
"It was not based on"
So what this apology actually said was:
“I respect the endorsement decision he made, and [I believe] that [it was not based on] his support of the President’s policies."
He didn't walk back his statement at all, he just reworded it.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:21:20pm |
OK. JOKES OVER. WHOEVER THE FUCK PUT KENTUCKY IN GATOR UNIFORMS NEEDS TO QUIT!!!!
— Michael (@g8erlaw68) October 27, 2012
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:21:51pm |
re: #100 JamesWI
Meatloaf isn't actually registered to vote
that's because of the recent ohio voting law requiring entrees to list ingredients
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The Ghost of a Flea Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:22:26pm |
re: #114 Charles Johnson
Just read that wingnut blogger Dan Riehl is in a hospital ICU with "respiratory failure," whatever that means.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:22:35pm |
OK, I take that back. For a second. (Interception)
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:24:20pm |
re: #119 The Ghost of a Flea
Friend of mine had (has) COPD (see #115)
To watch him gasp for breath even on a respirator was maddening
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:25:44pm |
Portman told the crowd that internal Romney polling shows the state [ohio] is a dead heat with with 11 days to go until Election Day
translating from republican-speak, he's admitting that they're behind
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Mich-again Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:26:53pm |
Riehl usually tweeted all day every day but his last tweet was 4 days ago.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:27:14pm |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:28:37pm |
re: #122 engineer cat
Portman told the crowd that internal Romney polling shows the state [ohio] is a dead heat with with 11 days to go until Election Day
translating from republican-speak, he's admitting that they're behind
Many polls have Ohio either tied or well within a margin of error
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:28:52pm |
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:29:20pm |
Mitt Romney Meatloaf Campaign Song
what did the art of music do to deserve so much abuse from the romney campaign?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:29:26pm |
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Mich-again Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:29:29pm |
Mitt should host a Rocky Horror party the night of the election.
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efuseakay Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:30:16pm |
re: #73 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
No he can't, you missed the story. Dude isn't registered!!!
Oh ya. Duh on me. lol
I just figured as adult, he'd be at least that responsible. But then again, he supports Romney.
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JamesWI Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:31:28pm |
re: #125 sattv4u2
Many polls have Ohio either tied or well within a margin of error
One poll has it tied. Rasmussen. Most polls aren't "well within" the MOE. They're typically right at the MOE (3-4%).
And contrary to what CNN tells us, a 4% lead with a 4% margin of error is not "tied."
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blueraven Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:32:21pm |
re: #124 Killgore Trout
It's Loaf-gate!
No gate, just stupid.
This has already been discussed, so your attempt at preemptively labeling it a freak out are duly noted but ultimately unsuccessful.
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:35:53pm |
re: #125 sattv4u2
Many polls have Ohio either tied or well within a margin of error
if we were to count states as "tied" or "well within the margin of error" for all states, including where this is true for romney as well as for obama, obama is even farther ahead in the electoral college
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:36:11pm |
re: #131 JamesWI
One poll has it tied. Rasmussen. Most polls aren't "well within" the MOE. They're typically right at the MOE (3-4%).
And contrary to what CNN tells us, a 4% lead with a 4% margin of error is not "tied."
Ohio ARG Obama 49, Romney 47 Obama +2
Ohio Purple Strategies Obama 46, Romney 44 Obama +2
Ohio SurveyUSA Obama 47, Romney 44 Obama +3
2 within, one "right at" , and as you stated, Rasmussen at a tie
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:37:37pm |
re: #132 blueraven
No gate, just stupid.
This has already been discussed, so your attempt at preemptively labeling it a freak out are duly noted but ultimately unsuccessful.
Seriously, you work helping a politician and you are not registered to vote?
Beyond hilarious.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:37:51pm |
re: #134 sattv4u2
Ohio ARG Obama 49, Romney 47 Obama +2
Ohio Purple Strategies Obama 46, Romney 44 Obama +2
Ohio SurveyUSA Obama 47, Romney 44 Obama +32 within, one "right at" , and as you stated, Rasmussen at a tie
That stated, MOE could also go the other way,, ADDING to the leaders margin instead of subtracting from it
SO ,,, bottom line,, I don't do polls
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Charles Johnson Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:38:47pm |
re: #119 The Ghost of a Flea
Oh yeah, I know it's very serious. Just saying it's not the actual cause, it's a symptom of something else.
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JamesWI Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:38:54pm |
re: #134 sattv4u2
Ohio ARG Obama 49, Romney 47 Obama +2
Ohio Purple Strategies Obama 46, Romney 44 Obama +2
Ohio SurveyUSA Obama 47, Romney 44 Obama +32 within, one "right at" , and as you stated, Rasmussen at a tie
CNN +4, Time +5, Quinnipiac +5.
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Randall Gross Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:39:19pm |
re: #114 Charles Johnson
Just read that wingnut blogger Dan Riehl is in a hospital ICU with "respiratory failure," whatever that means.
Here's hoping that he pulls through ok.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:40:33pm |
re: #140 Randall Gross
Here's hoping that he pulls through ok.
I agree. Although I suspect he wouldn't do the same for me.
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JamesWI Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:40:35pm |
re: #136 sattv4u2
That stated, MOE could also go the other way,, ADDING to the leaders margin instead of subtracting from it
SO ,,, bottom line,, I don't do polls
If they're all 95% confidence intervals, that means 95% of the time, it will be between the margin of error in both directions.
Which means, Obama is winning the vast majority of the time in the polls, even if he's inside the margin of error.
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:40:42pm |
Many polls have Ohio either tied or well within a margin of error
Purple Strategies 10/23 - 10/25 Obama +2
CNN/Opinion Research 10/23 - 10/25 Obama +4
ARG 10/23 - 10/25 Obama +2
Rasmussen Reports 10/23 - 10/23 Tie
Time 10/22 - 10/23 Obama +5
SurveyUSA 10/20 - 10/22 Obama +3
Lake Research Partners 10/23 Obama +4
did you have some other poll results not listed here?
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Killgore Trout Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:41:01pm |
re: #140 Randall Gross
Here's hoping that he pulls through ok.
According to instapundit he's doing ok for now but roughly a 50-50 chance of making it.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:41:36pm |
re: #125 sattv4u2
Many polls have Ohio either tied or well within a margin of error
Uh, no. In fact, Obama's ahead in almost every Ohio poll, and has stayed consistently ahead all season.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:41:52pm |
re: #125 sattv4u2
Many polls have Ohio either tied or well within a margin of error
re: #136 sattv4u2
That stated, MOE could also go the other way,, ADDING to the leaders margin instead of subtracting from it
SO ,,, bottom line,, I don't do polls
Professional oddsmakers with actual money on the line are placing the election at approximately 2 to 1 against for a Romney win.
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aagcobb Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:42:12pm |
re: #125 sattv4u2
Many polls have Ohio either tied or well within a margin of error
Since no poll has had Romney ahead since October 10, and even then by only 1 point, odds are the error is on the upside for Obama.
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wrenchwench Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:42:48pm |
re: #140 Randall Gross
Here's hoping that he pulls through ok.
I hope he recovers fully.
I also hope that some of his nurses are very capable young black men. Maybe his soul can be healed as well.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:44:33pm |
re: #146 goddamnedfrank
BTW that's the same average odds for Romney winning Ohio, 2 to 1 against.
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blueraven Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:44:42pm |
re: #134 sattv4u2
Ohio ARG Obama 49, Romney 47 Obama +2
Ohio Purple Strategies Obama 46, Romney 44 Obama +2
Ohio SurveyUSA Obama 47, Romney 44 Obama +32 within, one "right at" , and as you stated, Rasmussen at a tie
Quinnipiac + 5
Time +5
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JamesWI Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:44:44pm |
Take the CNN poll as an example. O +4 with a MOE of 4%. CNN calls this "tied."
In reality, that means if you repeat the poll, 95% of the time, the result will be somewhere between a tie and an 8% lead for Obama.
In other words, it's definitely not a "tie."
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:44:56pm |
well within a margin of error
real clear politics has the national poll average today with romney ahead 1% - well within the margin of error - and the no-toss-ups electoral map with obama getting 290 electoral votes - ahead and with colorado to spare if he loses that
if we are to believe the polls as they report it on this particular day, romney will be slightly ahead in the popular vote, which of course doesn't count, and obama will win with a state or two to spare
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:47:14pm |
re: #152 engineer cat
well within a margin of error
real clear politics has the national poll average today with romney ahead 1% - well within the margin of error - and the no-toss-ups electoral map with obama getting 290 electoral votes - ahead and with colorado to spare if he loses that
if we are to believe the polls as they report it on this particular day, romney will be slightly ahead in the popular vote, which of course doesn't count, and obama will win with a state or two to spare
RCP also leaves out a bunch of polls and surveys that they don't like, such as the RAND Corporation.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:49:28pm |
Unless something changes radically it's going to be an electoral landslide for Obama.
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freetoken Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:49:49pm |
Juan Cole is at it again:
Candidates flee East Coast as Frankenstorm takes Revenge for their Ignoring Climate Change
No activist or special interest should ever want to have Cole on "their side".
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JamesWI Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:49:56pm |
re: #154 goddamnedfrank
RCP also leaves out a bunch of polls and surveys that they don't like, such as the RAND Corporation.
Their reason for leaving out the RAND poll is legit. They don't include polls conducted on the internet. TPM's PollTracker posts the results of internet polls, but they don't include them in the average.
That's not to ignore the fact that RCP sometimes cherry picks. Just that this one isn't nefarious.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:50:51pm |
re: #155 Charles Johnson
Unless something changes radically it's going to be an electoral landslide for Obama.
If so, I will give credit where credit is due. DECATUR DEB (& his Wifey)
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blueraven Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:52:08pm |
re: #154 goddamnedfrank
RCP also leaves out a bunch of polls and surveys that they don't like, such as the RAND Corporation.
Plus they leave out PPP polls if they poll for a private entity, but they dont do the same for other pollsters.
They also dont include them on their daily tracker even though it is not for a private entity. They dont inlcude Ipsos/Reuters either. They cherry pick.
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gwangung Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:52:10pm |
re: #134 sattv4u2
Ohio ARG Obama 49, Romney 47 Obama +2
Ohio Purple Strategies Obama 46, Romney 44 Obama +2
Ohio SurveyUSA Obama 47, Romney 44 Obama +32 within, one "right at" , and as you stated, Rasmussen at a tie
Um, multiple samples. Central Limit Theorem.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:53:00pm |
I recommend the HuffPo poll tracker:
[Link: elections.huffingtonpost.com...]
I don't really trust RealClearPolitics.
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Digital Display Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:53:42pm |
3 1/2 hours till Game time here in Oklahoma. It's already completely insane here. This morning I dressed Winston in his pirate outfit and walked him over to campus to watch College Game day from ESPN. LOL. He has never been around 10's of thousands of students drinking since the sun came up.
He had so much fun.. His head was on a swivel having cheerleaders and thousands of girls petting him.. Ahh What's his name? He is so cute!
Yes Winston.. You owe me..Who else would bring you to the middle of crazy?
I sold my ticket for 700 bucks..It cost me 97 dollars last spring.
We missed the Notre Dame Marching band in Noble this afternoon. It's just to crazy today to drive anywhere.
Go Oklahoma!
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Cap'n Magic Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:55:17pm |
re: #56 Charles Johnson
And add programmers who can't code (Allen)....
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JamesWI Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:55:47pm |
re: #159 blueraven
Plus they leave out PPP polls if they poll for a private entity, but they dont do the same for other pollsters.
They also dont include them on their daily tracker even though it is not for a private entity. They dont inlcude Ipsos/Reuters either. They cherry pick.
Reuters/Ipsos is another one that's conducted over the internet, so leaving that one out is legit.
But I've definitely noticed the sponsored poll double-standard.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:57:36pm |
re: #157 JamesWI
Their reason for leaving out the RAND poll is legit. They don't include polls conducted on the internet. TPM's PollTracker posts the results of internet polls, but they don't include them in the average.
That's not to ignore the fact that RCP sometimes cherry picks. Just that this one isn't nefarious.
That's not really a legit reason. If you download their heavily detailed .pdf RAND Corps methodology is just as sound as Gallup. More so I'd argue since Gallup flat out refuses to tell people how they make their sausage.
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Cap'n Magic Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:59:04pm |
re: #162 Charles Johnson
You can also use [Link: www.electoral-vote.com...] maintained by Prof. Andrew Tanenbaum of Vridje University of Amsterdam and creater of Minix-which was the OS initially used by Linus Torvalds. (shades of Multics and Unix...)
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JamesWI Sat, Oct 27, 2012 1:59:31pm |
re: #166 goddamnedfrank
That's not really a legit reason. If you download their heavily detailed .pdf RAND Corps methodology is just as sound as Gallup. More so I'd argue since Gallup flat out refuses to tell people how they make their sausage.
Well, like I said, TPM's PollTracker doesn't include them either. And Nate Silver throws some of them out (especially Zogby) and weights most of the others lower.
Not saying that it is cool that they all don't count internet polls, just that RCP isn't simply doing it because of their (well-known) bias. It's just common practice.
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aagcobb Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:00:04pm |
re: #155 Charles Johnson
Unless something changes radically it's going to be an electoral landslide for Obama.
Really? Because I only count 277 solid electoral votes for Obama; Colorado, NH and Virginia could go either way.
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Cap'n Magic Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:03:28pm |
re: #169 aagcobb
As of this post, electoral-vote.com has Obama 284, 34 ties and Romeny at 220.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:04:29pm |
re: #143 engineer cat
Many polls have Ohio either tied or well within a margin of error
Purple Strategies 10/23 - 10/25 Obama +2
CNN/Opinion Research 10/23 - 10/25 Obama +4
ARG 10/23 - 10/25 Obama +2
Rasmussen Reports 10/23 - 10/23 Tie
Time 10/22 - 10/23 Obama +5
SurveyUSA 10/20 - 10/22 Obama +3
Lake Research Partners 10/23 Obama +4did you have some other poll results not listed here?
which is exactly what I said
"many" (not all) have Ohio either tied or well within a margin of error"
Of the 7 you listed, 1 is tied and 3 more are within MOE
4 out of 7 is many (and thats not including CNN who states the 4 is a "tie",)
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:06:23pm |
re: #163 Digital Display
I dressed Winston in his pirate outfit
help me out here
Sooners vs Fighting Irish,,, where does a pirate fit in???
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:09:24pm |
re: #153 engineer cat
2 within
"within" is not "ahead"
I never once mentioned "ahead' I also DID mention that the margin of error could go the other way, meaning a +2 for Obama could in fact be a +4 or 5 for him,. depending on that polls MOE!!
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:10:18pm |
re: #163 Digital Display
3 1/2 hours till Game time here in Oklahoma. It's already completely insane here. This morning I dressed Winston in his pirate outfit and walked him over to campus to watch College Game day from ESPN. LOL. He has never been around 10's of thousands of students drinking since the sun came up.
He had so much fun.. His head was on a swivel having cheerleaders and thousands of girls petting him.. Ahh What's his name? He is so cute!
Yes Winston.. You owe me..Who else would bring you to the middle of crazy?
I sold my ticket for 700 bucks..It cost me 97 dollars last spring.
We missed the Notre Dame Marching band in Noble this afternoon. It's just to crazy today to drive anywhere.
Go Oklahoma!
LOL, Hoops, you lead a blessed life. Well deserved.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:11:09pm |
re: #173 sattv4u2
I never once mentioned "ahead' I also DID mention that the margin of error could go the other way, meaning a +2 for Obama could in fact be a +4 or 5 for him,. depending on that polls MOE!!
Newsies are using the term "statistical tie" when the difference is less than an MoE. (That's journalism, not math.)
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:11:10pm |
re: #171 sattv4u2
which is exactly what I said
"many" (not all) have Ohio either tied or well within a margin of error"
Of the 7 you listed, 1 is tied and 3 more are within MOE
4 out of 7 is many (and thats not including CNN who states the 4 is a "tie",)
as i said before, "within" is not "ahead", and obama is ahead in ohio if you go by an average of all polls
real clear politics has obama ahead by average in ohio by 2.3%, but romney only 1% "ahead" in the national poll average.
what's your thought on that?
and, as i also said before, if you throw out all states that are "within", by your standard, obama still leads in the electoral college among the states that are left
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:12:17pm |
re: #173 sattv4u2
I never once mentioned "ahead' I also DID mention that the margin of error could go the other way, meaning a +2 for Obama could in fact be a +4 or 5 for him,. depending on that polls MOE!!
so you are saying that despite the preponderance of evidence, you are still holding out hope for a romney victory?
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Decatur Deb Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:13:15pm |
re: #158 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
And thousands like us, but not as pretty.
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gwangung Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:14:33pm |
re: #176 engineer cat
as i said before, "within" is not "ahead", and obama is ahead in ohio if you go by an average of all polls
real clear politics has obama ahead by average in ohio by 2.3%, but romney only 1% "ahead" in the national poll average.
what's your thought on that?
and, as i also said before, if you throw out all states that are "within", by your standard, obama still leads in the electoral college among the states that are left
Margin of error is most meaningful for a single poll. If you're taking multiple samplings, and the results are pretty much the same, then your confidence grows that the result actually reflects the population.
Now, the methodology is different from different polling outfits, but if you're getting 5-7 outfits all getting the same results, you would be on solid ground to say that Obama has a narrow lead. You'd be on much less solid ground to say that this is tied.
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Randall Gross Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:15:04pm |
We are close enough to Halloween to upload a new Icon photo (remember the rules if you do too : under 32K and must be .gif, .jpg, or .png format)
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:15:11pm |
If you want to really understand the state of the race look at the bookmakers. The only thing people in that business get really emotional about is their money, they aren't about to let their own political biases jeopardize it. If they're offering the public a 2 to 1 against opportunity then that means they think the odds are worse than that. Bookies who want to stay in business only offer lower odds than they can afford.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:15:23pm |
re: #177 engineer cat
so you are saying that despite the preponderance of evidence, you are still holding out hope for a romney victory?
Sure,,, (except where I never said that!!)
{sigh]
What part of "I also DID mention that the margin of error could go the other way, meaning a +2 for Obama could in fact be a +4 or 5 for him"
didn't come across?
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Decatur Deb Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:15:25pm |
re: #177 engineer cat
so you are saying that despite the preponderance of evidence, you are still holding out hope for a romney victory?
At best our chances are 50-50. It's not over until there are stakes through hearts. (Metaphorically, of course)
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:18:24pm |
re: #179 gwangung
Margin of error is most meaningful for a single poll. If you're taking multiple samplings, and the results are pretty much the same, then your confidence grows that the result actually reflects the population.
Now, the methodology is different from different polling outfits, but if you're getting 5-7 outfits all getting the same results, you would be on solid ground to say that Obama has a narrow lead. You'd be on much less solid ground to say that this is tied.
i agree - for each poll that you add in to the average, the margin of error has to go down
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:18:54pm |
My dad, a lifelong Republican, just told me he donated $40 to Obama. He said: "I've never, ever, ever donated to a candidate before."
— Russell Schaffer (@RussOnPolitics) October 25, 2012
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Digital Display Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:19:03pm |
re: #172 sattv4u2
I dressed Winston in his pirate outfit
help me out hereSooners vs Fighting Irish,,, where does a pirate fit in???
Halloween costume for next week. I figured the red silk Rocky robe was a tad too much for 9am
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:19:04pm |
RCP uses grade school level math for their website. Nate Silver is using college level advanced statistical analysis. It really is that simple.
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:20:33pm |
re: #182 sattv4u2
What part of "I also DID mention that the margin of error could go the other way, meaning a +2 for Obama could in fact be a +4 or 5 for him"
didn't come across?
the part where you don't recognize the preponderance of evidence
listen, i believe the poll averages when they say romney is ahead in national polling by 1%. unfortunately for him, the constitution does not recognize the popular vote
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funky chicken Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:20:39pm |
re: #109 Killgore Trout
Crank up the outrageous outrage machine! Mr. Loaf's not registered to vote in his home state and may even be committing voter fraud!
I Love Mitt
But Can't Vote for Him
Romney campaign office in NV offered to help me get an absentee ballot there since I never bothered to register here in OK. I haven't lived there for over 3 years.
VOTER FRAUD!
I politely declined and said I would vote straight dem ticket this year anyway. LOL.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:22:09pm |
re: #188 engineer cat
the part where you don't recognize the preponderance of evidence
listen, i believe the poll averages when they say romney is ahead in national polling by 1%. unfortunately for him, the constitution does not recognize the popular vote
Nor does it recognize poll results
So again, where did I say that I am "still holding out hope for a romney victory?"
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:24:10pm |
(this was meant to be its own post)
i guess i'm gonna have to see 'cloud atlas' this weekend. the trailers didn't particularly excite me, but i go to see all movies labelled 'science fiction' on general principles, and besides you have to give it credit for having a really great name
anybody have any recommendations on it?
also, at our local berkeley one remaining art house, the pacific film archive, we saw last night two films made in france during WWII by a great director i had never heard of before, jean grémillion. the films were Remorques, 1941, with the redoubtable jean gabin, and Lumière d'été, 1943
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:26:23pm |
re: #180 Randall Gross
We are close enough to Halloween to upload a new Icon photo (remember the rules if you do too : under 32K and must be .gif, .jpg, or .png format)
What the hell is yours? Oh and your karma is 81K even. whoop.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:26:28pm |
re: #191 engineer cat
(this was meant to be its own post)
i guess i'm gonna have to see 'cloud atlas' this weekend. the trailers didn't particularly excite me, but i go to see all movies labelled 'science fiction' on general principles, and besides you have to give it credit for having a really great name
anybody have any recommendations on it?
also, at our local berkeley one remaining art house, the pacific film archive, we saw last night two films made in france during WWII by a great director i had never heard of before, jean grémillion. the films were Remorques, 1941, with the redoubtable jean gabin, and Lumière d'été, 1943
My neighbors, a retired couple in their late 60's, loved it. They average 2 movies a week and so far, anything they recommended to us we also enjoyed
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:27:17pm |
re: #183 Decatur Deb
At best our chances are 50-50. It's not over until there are stakes through hearts. (Metaphorically, of course)
GOTV rules in the end
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gwangung Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:27:46pm |
re: #193 sattv4u2
My neighbors, a retired couple in their late 60's, loved it. They average 2 movies a week and so far, anything they recommended to us we also enjoyed
Heh. Going by people whose recomendations you enjoy seems like a pretty good system to me.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:27:56pm |
re: #184 engineer cat
i guess i'm gonna have to see 'cloud atlas' this weekend. the trailers didn't particularly excite me, but i go to see all movies labelled 'science fiction' on general principles, and besides you have to give it credit for having a really great name
anybody have any recommendations on it?
also, at our local berkeley one remaining art house, the pacific film archive, we saw last night two films made in france during WWII by a great director i had never heard of before, jean gremillion
i agree - for each poll that you add in to the average, the margin of error has to go down
Ebert reviewed, check it out (I didn't, but noticed it in a tweet)
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:33:10pm |
re: #197 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
Ebert reviewed, check it out (I didn't, but noticed it in a tweet)
Siskel could not be reached for comment
//
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:34:01pm |
Oh my.
Oh hiii MT @ofa_co: "Hi, this is Jon Hamm calling from President Obama's team in Colorado. How are you today?" instagr.am/p/RTFmrwknsy/
— Sarah Boxer (@Sarah_Boxer) October 27, 2012
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freetoken Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:38:02pm |
Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world:
Italy ex-PM Berlusconi threatens to topple Monti government
[...]
Earlier on Saturday, Mr Berlusconi said that despite his conviction he felt "obliged" to stay in politics.
He said he wanted to "reform the justice system so that what happened to me doesn't happen to other citizens".
"Ours is not a democracy but a dictatorship of the judges," he told TG5, one of the TV channels owned by Mediaset.
TYRANTS IN BLACK ROBES!!
Maybe Berlusconi could get together with Perry and form an intl. alliance of "conservatives"?
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dragonfire1981 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:38:36pm |
Apparently they did bypass surgery on Riehl.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:42:08pm |
re: #200 freetoken
Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world:
Italy ex-PM Berlusconi threatens to topple Monti government
TYRANTS IN BLACK ROBES!!
Maybe Berlusconi could get together with Perry and form an intl. alliance of "conservatives"?
Well,, he'll have a year to plot how to do it!!!
Silvio Berlusconi four-year sentence quickly cut to one year
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
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freetoken Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:42:22pm |
On a more serious international note:
Russian opposition leaders detained in Moscow
Moscow police on Saturday briefly detained several opposition leaders as well as a dozen other activists while they were protesting against the intensifying crackdown on Russian opposition.
[...]
Despite all his ham-fisted blustering on this issue, Romney did raise an important issue - that liberty for many around the world may be going backwards at the hands of powerful oligarchs.
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wrenchwench Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:42:35pm |
What's the best Halloween tradition? In my family, we get together, roast a huge pumpkin, and then talk about what scared us this year.— Andrew Ti (@ANDREWTI) October 27, 2012
Sorry, that was insensitive. Happy belated Canadian Halloween, to all my friends up north.— Andrew Ti (@ANDREWTI) October 27, 2012
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RadicalModerate Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:46:08pm |
Latest "outrageous outrage" courtesy of Human Events, via an op-ed piece with a scary headline that hits ALL of the xenophobic notes:
(sorry about the direct link, no cache available yet)
Is voter fraud being committed in Ohio?
A source, who wishes to remain anonymous, is a volunteer outside the Morse Road polling center. She has witnessed Somalis who cannot speak English come to the polling center. They are brought in groups, by van or bus. The Democrats hand them a slate card and say, “vote Brown all the way down.” Given that Sherrod Brown is the incumbent Democrat Senator in Ohio, one can assume that this is the reference.
Yeah. An un-named source who claims that non English-speaking scary African non-citizens are being bused en masse to a single polling station, and are being coached to vote for a single candidate.
And of course, that dogwhistle is being repeated by people like the AFA's Bryan Fischer.
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wrenchwench Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:51:25pm |
re: #205 RadicalModerate
There was some discussion of that in the previous thread, following this comment.
I suspect the author of that piece of being a big fat liar and a bigot to boot.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:51:41pm |
This is pretty awesome. Per unskwedpolls.com, I am "a thin and effeminate man" & therefore not to be trusted. examiner.com/article/the-fa...— Nate Silver (@fivethirtyeight) October 27, 2012
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freetoken Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:52:18pm |
My final offering in today's It's A Perverse World review:
Riot arrests blamed for 'anarchy'
The arrest of leaders of criminal gangs in the wake of last year's riots has led to an increase in "chaos, violence and anarchy" in neighbourhoods across the country, a report has claimed.
Prime Minister David Cameron promised an "all-out war on gangs and gang culture" following the riots which brought mayhem to many English cities in the summer of 2011, and police have responded by arresting many of those associated with criminal groups.
But the report by the Centre for Social Justice (CSJ), obtained by The Observer ahead of its publication on Monday, found the removal of established gang leaders has led to the breakdown of criminal codes of behaviour and a "marked increase" in violence.
[...]
Sometimes I wonder if we're just one bomb short of a Mad Max world.
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freetoken Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:53:56pm |
re: #207 goddamnedfrank
Nate Silver is a man of very small stature, a thin and effeminate man with a soft-sounding voice that sounds almost exactly like the “Mr. New Castrati” voice used by Rush Limbaugh on his program. In fact, Silver could easily be the poster child for the New Castrati in both image and sound. Nate Silver, like most liberal and leftist celebrities and favorites, might be of average intelligence but is surely not the genius he's made out to be. His political analyses are average at best and his projections, at least this year, are extremely biased in favor of the Democrats.
Well, that all sounds very authoritative!
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wrenchwench Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:55:28pm |
re: #209 freetoken
Well, that all sounds very authoritative!
Not only that, but
He claims to have been highly accurate in predicting the 2008 election results, and perhaps he was. But it's highly unlikely his current methods and projections will have the level of accuracy unless he changes then quite a lot between now and election day. The race has shifted profoundly in favor of Mitt Romney while Nate Sillver is still projecting an Obama win. Unless he changes that, the credibility he earned in 2008 will be greatly diminished after this years election.
Because this guy says so!
Dean Chambers, an Internet journalist and commentator, launched his writing career by creating an alternative conservative student newspaper while in college. Dean grew up in what James A. Baker called "the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts" and has experienced first-hand the fruits of progressive public policy. Look to Dean's writings to find a uniquely individualist point of view focusing on limited government, individual liberty, and conservative values.
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Targetpractice Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:57:29pm |
re: #207 goddamnedfrank
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Who really takes Dean "Unskewed Polls" Chambers seriously? Man's living in his own little fantasy world.
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wrenchwench Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:59:55pm |
re: #210 wrenchwench
And if you look at the guy's photo, you can see that, by his standards at least, he's VERY trustworthy.
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:02:32pm |
re: #205 RadicalModerate
“vote Brown all the way down.”
but as he says they can't speak english so they look at him quizzically and decide to go get lunch instead
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RadicalModerate Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:04:07pm |
re: #209 freetoken
Well, that all sounds very authoritative!
Apparently, according to the author of the anti-Nate Silver piece thinks that the only authoritative pollsters are Dick Morris and the laughably bad "unskewedpolls" website (who helpfully toss out all non-whites and Democrats from their polling numbers).
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nemus Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:05:21pm |
re: #214 RadicalModerate
Apparently, according to the author of the anti-Nate Silver piece thinks that the only authoritative pollsters are Dick Morris and the laughably bad "unskewedpolls" website (who helpfully toss out all non-whites and Democrats from their polling numbers).
Actually the guy who wrote that article *IS* the guy who runs the unskewedpolls.com website. Just FYI.
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Aye Pod Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:06:00pm |
Russia public enemy no 1, Meatloaf cool? Assuming the American public completely forgets what decade (not to say century) they're in, Romney will be a shoe-in.
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Targetpractice Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:07:30pm |
re: #215 nemus
Actually the guy who wrote that article *IS* the guy who runs the unskewedpolls.com website. Just FYI.
Yeah, pimped his site within the first two paragraphs, before projecting all his BS onto Silver.
Reading the comments is rather illuminating. So far, I've not see one stand up and try to defend Chambers.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:08:23pm |
re: #207 goddamnedfrank
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RWNJ's attack Nate. I am not surprised. Surprised they finally read enough to discover who he was, but not surprised they attack his person - whatever assholes.
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ProGunLiberal Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:08:27pm |
re: #215 nemus
I think he is projecting. I've noticed this alot, where the Republicans project what they do, and what they want to do, onto the Democrats.
Meanwhile, if CL is here, I have a offer she can't refuse.
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Randall Gross Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:09:07pm |
re: #192 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
What the hell is yours? Oh and your karma is 81K even. whoop.
That's Zombunny, a stuffed Easter rabbit that my dog Kasey killed. He rises again on Halloween and Easter.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:10:16pm |
re: #212 wrenchwench
And if you look at the guy's photo, you can see that, by his standards at least, he's VERY trustworthy.
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Targetpractice Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:11:05pm |
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wrenchwench Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:11:30pm |
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:11:44pm |
déjuner froid a la refrigerator:
can of salmon
mayonnaise
assorted olives
two dolmas
cucumber salad
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Obdicut Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:12:00pm |
re: #221 goddamnedfrank
Wait, that guy is making fun of effeminacy in others? He looks about as tough as a marshmallow rabbit.
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funky chicken Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:12:50pm |
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Aye Pod Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:13:11pm |
Yay first full pay day since starting new job. Booze! Soft drugs! Fun!
Have some Squarepusher on the house:
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Targetpractice Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:13:17pm |
Heh, finally found a "defense" of Chambers, by which I mean a commentator declares the Chambers was being satirical.
Geez.
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RadicalModerate Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:13:32pm |
re: #215 nemus
Actually the guy who wrote that article *IS* the guy who runs the unskewedpolls.com website. Just FYI.
Not at all surprised by that. Problem with Chambers is that there are post-election checks on pollsters (and associated number-crunchers) accuracy. Last presidential election, Silver had less than a 1% deviation from the actual election results, and accurately predicted results from 49 of 50 states, and all Senatorial races.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:13:48pm |
Combine Halloween with a hurricane and you get... Pumpkinhead in a live shot: instagr.am/p/RTVFBbMd-S/
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) October 27, 2012
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Charles Johnson Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:14:23pm |
re: #170 Cap'n Magic
As of this post, electoral-vote.com has Obama 284, 34 ties and Romeny at 220.
Yep, all the trackers agree that Obama's got a huge electoral advantage.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:15:18pm |
re: #224 engineer cat
déjuner froid a la refrigerator:
can of salmon
mayonnaise
assorted olives
two dolmas
cucumber salad
Step 1, pick up phone
Step 2,, dial phone
Step 3 order take out
Step 4, enjoy
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:16:29pm |
re: #228 Aye Pod
Yay first full pay day since starting new job. Booze! Soft drugs! Fun!
Have some Squarepusher on the house:
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Good on ya!
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Targetpractice Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:16:43pm |
re: #232 Charles Johnson
Yep, all the trackers agree that Obama's got a huge electoral advantage.
And yet, we got Dean Chambers declaring them all inaccurate because Dick Morris thinks Romney's gonna win by landslide, taking Minnesota, Michigan, and Nevada as part of the clean sweep.
If current projections hold true, the wingnuts are in for one hell of a shock on Election Night. They're gonna spend at least a day going "How did he win? Nobody I know voted for him!"
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funky chicken Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:19:42pm |
re: #205 RadicalModerate
LOL. How many Browns are running there in Ohio, anyway?
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Aye Pod Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:20:53pm |
re: #234 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
Good on ya!
Cheers to youy too! Been a hard year financially here at chez Jimmah-Ice to be honest, but things are going well now! Can't wait to visit NYC again. Ice really misses it (me too!)
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Cap'n Magic Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:22:35pm |
re: #235 Targetpractice
Dick Morris's prediction records led Sully to rename his von Hoffman Award to the Morris Award-for stunningly incorrect prognostications.
Funny thing that Morris is playing his trade at Fox News-guess they have a prediliction for hiring heedless political hacks.
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Aye Pod Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:30:56pm |
Meanwhile in Britain:
Artist (who being an artist understands the power of symbolism (and presumably the universality of, you know, univerally recognised symbols) pretends that he didn't mean anything religious by his GIANT FUCKING CRUCIFIX:
[Link: richarddawkins.net...]
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:31:52pm |
Nate Silver is a man of very small stature, a thin and effeminate man with a soft-sounding voice that sounds almost exactly like the “Mr. New Castrati” voice used by Rush Limbaugh on his program
at this rate nate will never get elected class president of the 7th grade
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:36:24pm |
re: #235 Targetpractice
And yet, we got Dean Chambers declaring them all inaccurate because Dick Morris thinks Romney's gonna win by landslide, taking Minnesota, Michigan, and Nevada as part of the clean sweep.
If current projections hold true, the wingnuts are in for one hell of a shock on Election Night. They're gonna spend at least a day going "How did he win? Nobody I know voted for him!"
My boss (asshole who loves to come in, talking trash about Potus loudly on his cell phone, oh and the GHEYS) will be a joy. A huge joy.
I used to like him, but he poisoned our office by bringing in loudly his preference, and intimidating the rest of us.
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Targetpractice Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:36:37pm |
re: #238 Cap'n Magic
Dick Morris's prediction records led Sully to rename his von Hoffman Award to the Morris Award-for stunningly incorrect prognostications.
Funny thing that Morris is playing his trade at Fox News-guess they have a prediliction for hiring heedless political hacks.
May have to strip that honor from Morris after the election, because Chambers' "unskewed" predictions are such that I'm dying with laughter over here:
The UNSKEWED Projection of the 2012 Presidential Race
The QStarNews projection of the 2012 presidential race sees Mitt Romney being elected the next president of the United States with 53.63 percent of the popular vote and 359 electoral votes to President Obama's 45.92 percent and 179 electoral votes.
QStarNews predicts the turnout nationally will includes 34.8 percent Republicans, 35.2 percent Democrats, and 30.0 percent independents. QStarNews predicts turnout will rise by about four percent, or a total of about 130,955,000 voters including about 600,000 for third party candidates and the rest going to Romney and Obama.
He's actually got Romney picking up PA, OR, and NV.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:36:51pm |
re: #239 Aye Pod
Meanwhile in Britain:
Artist (who being an artist understands the power of symbolism (and presumably the universality of, you know, univerally recognised symbols) pretends that he didn't mean anything religious by his GIANT FUCKING CRUCIFIX:
[Link: richarddawkins.net...]
"Should I be restricted from using it when it has come from my own investigation, imagination, conclusion
A symbol thats universally recognized for eons
throughout the entire world came from his 'own imagination"??
Wow
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JamesWI Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:38:29pm |
re: #212 wrenchwench
And if you look at the guy's photo, you can see that, by his standards at least, he's VERY trustworthy.
He's that special kind of morbidly obese, where you can't tell if he's in his late 20s or his early 60s.
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JamesWI Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:40:23pm |
re: #243 Targetpractice
May have to strip that honor from Morris after the election, because Chambers' "unskewed" predictions are such that I'm dying with laughter over here:
The UNSKEWED Projection of the 2012 Presidential Race
He's actually got Romney picking up PA, OR, and NV.
If you look at his Twitter account, he's claiming that he has his own "daily tracking poll." In reality, it's an online poll that he links to in his Tweets. Yep, I'm sure that sample won't be skewed at all!
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MittDoesNotCompute Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:41:24pm |
re: #243 Targetpractice
May have to strip that honor from Morris after the election, because Chambers' "unskewed" predictions are such that I'm dying with laughter over here:
The UNSKEWED Projection of the 2012 Presidential Race
He's actually got Romney picking up PA, OR, and NV.
Using a poll nobody ever heard of or takes seriously...
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MittDoesNotCompute Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:42:00pm |
re: #246 JamesWI
If you look at his Twitter account, he's claiming that he has his own "daily tracking poll." In reality, it's an online poll that he links to in his Tweets. Yep, I'm sure that sample won't be skewed at all!
I say that we Paul-bomb it...
///
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Targetpractice Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:42:30pm |
One of the comments to Chambers' article noted that Karl Rove was on Faux the other day, arguing how there's 11 ways Romney could still win without Ohio. The commenter noted (correctly) that when you're trying to make up scenarios where you could still squeak by with a win, you're in deep shit.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:43:59pm |
Charles, if you are around, when someone posted a page link, or a link to an old comment, didn't it open in a new window? Now we go to the link/page & have to navigate back to where we were.
Or is it just moi?
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:44:09pm |
re: #250 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
whiner
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Aye Pod Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:45:47pm |
re: #244 sattv4u2
"Should I be restricted from using it when it has come from my own investigation, imagination, conclusion
A symbol thats universally recognized for eons
throughout the entire world came from his 'own imagination"??
Wow
Exactly. Nobody even has the option to make such a claim. Transparent bullshit.
Having said that, I just drew the Mona Lisa from first principles, without any reference whatever to the similarly named work by Leonardo Da Vinci!/
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funky chicken Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:46:18pm |
re: #249 Targetpractice
Especially when they involve Romney's winning Oregon. Honestly, the only way I see a Romney win is if the hurricane wipes out power to costal areas of NY and PA so both of those states' electoral college votes are assigned based on inland redneck voters. Sadly there are probably some GOP operatives hoping for that kind of catastrophic storm story.
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goddamnedfrank Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:46:51pm |
re: #250 Page 3 in the Binder of Women
Charles, if you are around, when someone posted a page link, or a link to an old comment, didn't it open in a new window? Now we go to the link/page & have to navigate back to where we were.
Or is it just moi?
I think it's only supposed to work for comments in the same thread or something.
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aagcobb Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:47:12pm |
re: #235 Targetpractice
And yet, we got Dean Chambers declaring them all inaccurate because Dick Morris thinks Romney's gonna win by landslide, taking Minnesota, Michigan, and Nevada as part of the clean sweep.
If current projections hold true, the wingnuts are in for one hell of a shock on Election Night. They're gonna spend at least a day going "How did he win? Nobody I know voted for him!"
Fraud!
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engineer cat Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:47:38pm |
11 ways Romney could still win without Ohio
1. giant asteroid
2. plague of frogs
3. transporter from star trek
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Targetpractice Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:48:38pm |
re: #253 funky chicken
Especially when they involve Romney's winning Oregon. Honestly, the only way I see a Romney win is if the hurricane wipes out power to costal areas of NY and PA so both of those states' electoral college votes are assigned based on inland redneck voters. Sadly there are probably some GOP operatives hoping for that kind of catastrophic storm story.
Basically, by this point in the game, almost every scenario where Romney could win without Ohio involves him taking every remaining swing state. And historical precedent is that candidates who can't win Ohio don't generally win the presidency.
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nemus Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:49:03pm |
re: #243 Targetpractice
May have to strip that honor from Morris after the election, because Chambers' "unskewed" predictions are such that I'm dying with laughter over here:
The UNSKEWED Projection of the 2012 Presidential Race
He's actually got Romney picking up PA, OR, and NV.
Here's a question I continually ask myself when I read stuff like this. Do these guys TRULY BELIEVE what they are writing? Like, in his mind, does he really see that all the polls are wrong, improperly weighted, etc - and he just knows that he's correct? Is it true belief or is it just done as a desperate 'please rile up the base' type of maneuver?
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Mich-again Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:49:11pm |
re: #163 Digital Display
3 1/2 hours till Game time here in Oklahoma. It's already completely insane here. This morning I dressed Winston in his pirate outfit and walked him over to campus to watch College Game day from ESPN. LOL. He has never been around 10's of thousands of students drinking since the sun came up.
He had so much fun.. His head was on a swivel having cheerleaders and thousands of girls petting him.. Ahh What's his name? He is so cute!
Yes Winston.. You owe me..Who else would bring you to the middle of crazy?
I sold my ticket for 700 bucks..It cost me 97 dollars last spring.
We missed the Notre Dame Marching band in Noble this afternoon. It's just to crazy today to drive anywhere.
Go Oklahoma!
God Country Notre Dame..
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funky chicken Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:49:38pm |
re: #256 engineer cat
or the scenario I described above where the hurricane makes it too difficult for costal residents to vote so inland PA and NY decide the election.
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aagcobb Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:51:26pm |
re: #249 Targetpractice
One of the comments to Chambers' article noted that Karl Rove was on Faux the other day, arguing how there's 11 ways Romney could still win without Ohio. The commenter noted (correctly) that when you're trying to make up scenarios where you could still squeak by with a win, you're in deep shit.
There is no way Romney wins without Ohio, because if he can't win Ohio, he sure as shit isn't winning Wisconsin, Michigan or Pennsylvania.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:52:13pm |
re: #252 Aye Pod
Exactly. Nobody even has the option to make such a claim. Transparent bullshit.
Having said that, I just drew the Mona Lisa from first principles, without any reference whatever to the similarly named work by Leonardo Da Vinci!/
Funny you should mention that
I'm inspired to draw an eight sided symbol and my imagination tells me to place in it a simple four letter word
My mind comes up with something that looks like this
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:52:37pm |
re: #258 nemus
Here's a question I continually ask myself when I read stuff like this. Do these guys TRULY BELIEVE what they are writing? Like, in his mind, does he really see that all the polls are wrong, improperly weighted, etc - and he just knows that he's correct? Is it true belief or is it just done as a desperate 'please rile up the base' type of maneuver?
rile up the base, a maneuver, a page click winning $ making scheme.
We are really fucked trying to find truth.
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funky chicken Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:52:47pm |
re: #258 nemus
Here's a question I continually ask myself when I read stuff like this. Do these guys TRULY BELIEVE what they are writing? Like, in his mind, does he really see that all the polls are wrong, improperly weighted, etc - and he just knows that he's correct? Is it true belief or is it just done as a desperate 'please rile up the base' type of maneuver?
I'd guess his hope is to find some rich right-wingers to donate money to support his unique methodology. Hey, best of luck to him on that one.
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Targetpractice Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:53:28pm |
re: #258 nemus
Here's a question I continually ask myself when I read stuff like this. Do these guys TRULY BELIEVE what they are writing? Like, in his mind, does he really see that all the polls are wrong, improperly weighted, etc - and he just knows that he's correct? Is it true belief or is it just done as a desperate 'please rile up the base' type of maneuver?
I'm leaning towards a little of column A, little of column B. I think there's a split between those who say Obama can't win purely out of partisan politics, but just as many who say it because they refuse to acknowledge the reality that Romney's getting his ass kicked.
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Mich-again Sat, Oct 27, 2012 3:58:20pm |
Dang, I just saw on the local news about a guy driving to the Tigers game who got shot by the I-96 sniper near Webberville, out near Lansing. After he get shot he stopped at a gas station and went in to ask for help. The bullet went through his door, through his wallet and into the buttocks. An eyewitness said he was worried that it was going to cause him to miss the game tonight.
There have been dozens of cars shot at on a corridor of I96 around Howell in the last couple weeks. Hope they catch the sniper before he kills. I can't wait to hear their sob story.
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redtickbeer Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:13:31pm |
re: #260 funky chicken
Those inland voters are going to have their own problems to deal with when Sandy turns into the Nor'easter. Lots of rain and predicted blizzard conditions in the upper elevations.
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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:42:13pm |
re: #48 wrenchwench
Many Lizards like flies. Tasty treats!
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DobermanBoston Sat, Oct 27, 2012 4:45:05pm |
With the days of James Brown playing Nixon's inaugural and the Neil Young/Ronald Reagan bromance long behind us it is safe to say that Republicans and quality music don't mix.
| 270 |
sagehen Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:18:56pm |
re: #155 Charles Johnson
Unless something changes radically it's going to be an electoral landslide for Obama.
I'll take that bet... I see a squeaker, results won't be official until mid-afternoon the next day.
| 271 |
R.M, Ramallo Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:19:26pm |
re: #222 Targetpractice
GAH! Who opened the Ark of the Covenant?!
/
LOL!!!
Same guy who let out James Carville ! (whom I love but find butt-ass ugly)
| 272 |
Cap'n Magic Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:21:55pm |
re: #243 Targetpractice
If by no small miracle that happens, then the US will be truly fsck'ed.
| 273 |
Cap'n Magic Sat, Oct 27, 2012 7:27:58pm |
re: #258 nemus
Like Alex Jones, there's a sliver of truth that they wrap around total effin' bovine scat that thye have to fill their time with. I actually listened to an Alex Jones show in a fit of pique-his show is more commercials than him actually bloviating on the air.
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