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Breaking: Hillary Clinton Hospitalized After Blood Clot Discovered

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has been hospitalized tonight after doctors discovered a blood clot in a follow-up exam after her concussion earlier this month. It’s not clear from early reports whether the blood clot is in her brain, but if so, that would be a very serious concern.

She is expected to remain at New York Presbyterian Hospital for the next 48 hours so doctors can monitor her condition and treat her with anti-coagulants, said Philippe Reines, deputy assistant secretary of state.

“Her doctors will continue to assess her condition, including other issues associated with her concussion,” Reines said. “They will determine if any further action is required.”

Clinton, 65, was suffering from a stomach virus earlier this month when she fainted due to dehydration, causing the concussion.

UPDATE at 12/30/12 6:21:07 pm

“Jim Treacher” (real name: Sean Medlock) at the Daily Caller a few days ago: Where’s Hillary Clinton’s Medical Report? | the Daily Caller.

If she has a concussion, let’s see the medical report. Let’s see some proof that she’s not just stonewalling. If it’s true, then we can all wish her a speedy recovery. But it’s ridiculous to expect us to take her word for it.

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455 comments

1 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:48:48pm

And predictably, the inmates at FR and Hotair are already engaging in conspiracy theories, the most popular being "She's faking it to avoid testifying about Benghazi!" and "Obama's trying to have her knocked off to keep her from testifying about Benghazi!"

2 jaunte  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:48:49pm

Here's hoping for her rapid recovery.

3 DisturbedEma  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:50:19pm

The comments on the yahoo story are sickening. From Vince Foster forward

4 Awea  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:50:37pm

Do you think Bolton will send her a get well/forgiveness card?

5 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:51:38pm

I hope she has a full and speedy recovery.

6 Hal_10000  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:52:08pm

I've had my disagreements with Mrs. Clinton, but wish her a full recovery. Blood clots are scary.

7 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:53:48pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

And predictably, the inmates at FR and Hotair are already engaging in conspiracy theories, the most popular being "She's faking it to avoid testifying about Benghazi!" and "Obama's trying to have her knocked off to keep her from testifying about Benghazi!"

Sure enough, the freep response is as predictable as the stench from an overflowing cesspool. Many freepers take it for granted that this is some kind of hoax having something or other to do with Benghazi.

16. We already knew that Bengazi is bad, but this means that it’s really, really bad, and there’s probably lots more that we do not yet know.
Maybe 90% of the dark, crazy stuff we’ve been theorizing here about it might be true:
Hillary does not launch into this type of exotic political calesthenics for nothing —there are some very heavy-duty skeletons in Bengazi that our shovels have been striking very near.
We’ve gotta keep the pressure up.

This one is more direct:

#18 I’m sure the clot is in the part of the brain labeled “Benghazi Memories”.

Some, of course, think Hillary is not in on the fix but is being slowly assassinated by You Know Who:

10. She may be getting the Vince Foster treatment from the current regime. Karma.

15. Early onset Arkancide?

21. Either this is a total lie, or she was whacked over the head in her home by someone not wanting her to testify on Benghazi.

8 bratwurst  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:54:20pm
9 spiderx  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:55:48pm

This stuff from FOX news is just sick. When will people tune out this garbage?

[Link: mediamatters.org...]

10 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 5:56:41pm

re: #8 bratwurst

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We're being told not to lay into cynics who speculated as to the seriousness of her condition, meanwhile those cynics are preparing declarations that she's still faking illness to avoid testifying.

Yeah, sorry, I'm not gonna cut them any slack.

11 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:01:08pm

A 65 year old woman faints, hits her head, and develops a blood clot? Impossible! Who ever heard of such a thing? Must be a conspiracy! Benghazi-Foster!

12 thatthatisis  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:08:22pm

Some of the FR's are doubting the story based on how ludicrous it is that she got her doctor to see her on a Sunday.

Srsly? They think the Secretary of State of the United States of America, 4th in line for the presidency, should call her physician when his office opens on Wednesday? Or perhaps she should go sit in an ER somewhere for a few hours?

13 S.D.  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:08:56pm

Wingnuts will be Wingnuts...

In any case, I hope she recovers. A Blood Clot is serious...

14 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:09:30pm

re: #12 thatthatisis

Some of the FR's are doubting the story based on how ludicrous it is that she got her doctor to see her on a Sunday.

Srsly? They think the Secretary of State of the United States of America, 4th in line for the presidency, should call her physician when his office opens on Wednesday? Or perhaps she should go sit in an ER somewhere for a few hours?

These are deeply stupid people.

15 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:10:33pm

re: #14 moderatelyradicalliberal

These are deeply stupid people.

Refreshingly unsophisticated.

16 Awea  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:10:53pm

re: #12 thatthatisis

Some of the FR's are doubting the story based on how ludicrous it is that she got her doctor to see her on a Sunday.

Srsly? They think the Secretary of State of the United States of America, 4th in line for the presidency, should call her physician when his office opens on Wednesday? Or perhaps she should go sit in an ER somewhere for a few hours?

Not to mention former first lady, and senator.

17 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:11:17pm

re: #12 thatthatisis

Some of the FR's are doubting the story based on how ludicrous it is that she got her doctor to see her on a Sunday.

Srsly? They think the Secretary of State of the United States of America, 4th in line for the presidency, should call her physician when his office opens on Wednesday? Or perhaps she should go sit in an ER somewhere for a few hours?

Anybody can go to the emergency room and get free care!

18 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:12:12pm

*face palm*

19 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:21:56pm

"Jim Treacher" (real name: Sean Medlock) at the Daily Caller: Where's Hillary Clinton's Medical Report? | the Daily Caller.

If she has a concussion, let's see the medical report. Let's see some proof that she's not just stonewalling. If it's true, then we can all wish her a speedy recovery. But it's ridiculous to expect us to take her word for it.

20 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:22:32pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

"Jim Treacher" (real name: Sean Medlock ) at the Daily Caller: Where's Hillary Clinton's Medical Report? | the Daily Caller.

They would hold a public lynching if anyone dared say that about a Republican official who fell ill.

21 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:23:07pm
22 jaunte  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:24:06pm
What’s that you say? You don’t think that’s fair? All the paranoid wingnuts should shut up? Oh, I’m sure you’d say the same thing if this had happened between 2001-2009, and Colin Powell or Condoleeza Rice kept putting off testifying about it. You wouldn’t demand a doctor’s note then, right?
[Link: dailycaller.com...]

It's a small step from birthers to clotters.

23 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:24:20pm

re: #12 thatthatisis

Some of the FR's are doubting the story based on how ludicrous it is that she got her doctor to see her on a Sunday.

Srsly? They think the Secretary of State of the United States of America, 4th in line for the presidency, should call her physician when his office opens on Wednesday? Or perhaps she should go sit in an ER somewhere for a few hours?

you can tell from the close care she was receiving because of the seriousness of her fall. It wasn't fake.. Lucky they caught the blood clout so soon.

24 jaunte  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:25:22pm
25 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:26:25pm

re: #21 Vicious Babushka

I'm downloading the Big Beethoven Box from Amazon for $0.99.

These Amazon classical music box set packages are incredible. Thanks for the tip - just started the download.

26 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:28:00pm

re: #24 jaunte

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A little concussion? No such thing.
Non-serious blood clot? No such thing.

27 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:29:26pm

re: #20 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

They would hold a public lynching if anyone dared say that about a Republican official who fell ill.

Reagan's not really dead. He faked that and his Alzheimer's to keep from testifying about Iran-Contra. He's as fit as ever at age 101 and secretly calling the shots from his bunker at Area 51.

28 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:32:13pm

re: #14 moderatelyradicalliberal

These are deeply stupid people.

Indeed. May the ghost of Teddy Roosevelt piss on them from the highest point of Mount Rushmore.

29 elizajane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:32:54pm

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel

Reagan's not really dead. He faked that and his Alzheimer's to keep from testifying about Iran-Contra. He's as fit as ever at age 101 and secretly calling the shots from his bunker at Area 51.

Of course he is. And if Hilary dies, which heaven forfend, they'll spend the next four years clamoring to see a long-form death certificate.

Really, those comments over at Hot Air take me back to the 2008 primaries, in ways I would prefer to forget.

30 Bubblehead II  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:34:50pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

"Jim Treacher" (real name: Sean Medlock) at the Daily Caller: Where's Hillary Clinton's Medical Report? | the Daily Caller.

Wonder if SFB would feel the same way if it was HIS medical records being demanded?

31 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:36:49pm

re: #21 Vicious Babushka

I'm downloading the Big Beethoven Box from Amazon for $0.99.

This isn't as much of a bargain but I think it's really cool
Beethoven: The Symphonies
All nine symphonies performed on original period instruments. Not what most people are used to hearing. The strings are mushier and the brass is crunchier. Tempos and dynamics are a lot different than most modern interpretations.

32 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:37:26pm

Yet another example of demonizing the "enemy." Hillary Clinton, aside from all her public accomplishments, is also a middle-aged wife and mother. If she were anyone else, most of these creeps would be worrying about her condition and sending her flowers.

33 Cinnabar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:38:02pm

re: #21 Vicious Babushka

I'm downloading the Big Beethoven Box from Amazon for $0.99.

And now so am I. Thanks!

34 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:39:35pm

re: #33 Cinnabar

I guess I need to wait in line. My dl timed out.

35 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:39:49pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

This is as much of a bargain but I think it's really cool
Beethoven: The Symphonies
All nine symphonies performed on original period instruments. Not what most people are used to hearing. The strings are mushier and the brass is crunchier. Tempos and dynamics are a lot different than most modern interpretations.

I really can't tell the difference between Beethoven on period instruments and modern instruments. Bach, Handel, Telemann, Mozart all sound different when played on the original instruments. Anything from 1820 forward I can't really tell, but, I am not a musician.

36 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:42:11pm

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

You are getting all of those pieces of music for $.99. That is a very good deal.

37 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:42:25pm

commented on another blog that i think jazz has failed to innovate since 1980 or so, and the same for rock 'n' roll since the early 90s

apparently i'm lucky that it is not possible to actually burn heretics on the intertubes

38 Cinnabar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:43:03pm

The also have a Schubert collection that looks intriguing (and includes some of my favorite work), but it costs twice as much as the Beethoven. Can I afford to spend that much?

:P

39 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:43:06pm

The reviews mention that there are some glitches:

Well, there are a few glitches:

(1) As noted by another poster, the third movement of the String Quartet No. 15 in A minor, Op. 132, isn't there. The third movement of the Quartet No. 12, Op. 127, has been inadvertently duplicated in its place. (Quartet No. 12 also has two extra movements: the last two movements of Quartet No. 13 have been duplicated and added to it.)

(2) The piano sonata listed as No. 26 is actually Sonata No. 12 in A-flat, Op. 26 ("Funeral March"). The Sonata No. 26 ("Les Adieux") is not included.

(3) The two tracks of the Piano Sonata No. 21 ("Waldstein") are reversed.

Hopefully Amazon will make the third movement of Quartet No. 15 available at some future time. For my own part, I can replace it out of my CD collection. I would have paid 99 cents just for Bruce Hungerford's wonderful performance of the little Op. 79 piano sonata, which hasn't been available since its original LP release. So unless that particular quartet is crucial, I'd jump on this release.

Yeah well, whatever.

40 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:43:21pm

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

I really can't tell the difference between Beethoven on period instruments and modern instruments. Bach, Handel, Telemann, Mozart all sound different when played on the original instruments. Anything from 1820 forward I can't really tell, but, I am not a musician.

Yeah, maybe it's a musician geek thing.

41 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:44:33pm

re: #38 Cinnabar

The also have a Schubert collection that looks intriguing (and includes some of my favorite work), but it costs twice as much as the Beethoven. Can I afford to spend that much?

:P

I downloaded the complete set of Schubert symphonies definitely worth the price. :)

42 Cinnabar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:44:35pm

re: #37 engineer cat

commented on another blog that i think jazz has failed to innovate since 1980 or so, and the same for rock 'n' roll since the early 90s

apparently i'm lucky that it is not possible to actually burn heretics on the intertubes

So are we all, my brother. That's part of what it means to be a lizard.

43 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:46:02pm

OK now when is the Big Wagner Box coming out?

44 Cinnabar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:46:18pm

re: #41 Vicious Babushka

I downloaded the complete set of Schubert symphonies definitely worth the price. :)

Of course, I could get off my butt and put my CDs into the player... probably too much effort when I can just click a mouse.

45 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:46:22pm

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

I really can't tell the difference between Beethoven on period instruments and modern instruments. Bach, Handel, Telemann, Mozart all sound different when played on the original instruments. Anything from 1820 forward I can't really tell, but, I am not a musician.

i'm only an amateur musician but the difference is too subtle for me as well

also i can't tell when groups singing renaissance and ars nova era vocal music are singing in natural temperament

46 allegro  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:46:49pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

This isn't as much of a bargain but I think it's really cool
Beethoven: The Symphonies
All nine symphonies performed on original period instruments. Not what most people are used to hearing. The strings are mushier and the brass is crunchier. Tempos and dynamics are a lot different than most modern interpretations.

If you haven't seen it, check out the BBC movie "Eroica." It's Beethoven's 3rd done on period instruments with a dramatization of its first performance. I loved it so much I've bought 5 or 6 copies of the DVD as gifts.

47 Cinnabar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:46:52pm

re: #43 Vicious Babushka

OK now when is the Big Wagner Box coming out?

Need a bigger box.

48 jaunte  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:48:56pm
49 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:49:32pm

re: #47 Cinnabar

Need a bigger box.

Visions of little radio-controlled helicopters flying NOE over office cubicles, playing Ride of the Valkyries.

50 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:51:08pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

The Ugly Right is busy earning their title.

51 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:51:58pm

re: #48 jaunte

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They haters make it easier for Independents to vote for Democrats.

52 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:52:24pm

re: #48 jaunte

"I’m not a doctor, but. Fixed and it better stay that way.

53 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:52:28pm
54 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:52:53pm

re: #21 Vicious Babushka

I'm downloading the Big Beethoven Box from Amazon for $0.99.

Music has become so inexpensive these days. I wonder how musicians make a living if they're not in the business of MTV videos.

55 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:53:10pm

re: #53 Lidane

"Ugly" is probably now inadequate.

56 Interesting Times  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:53:10pm
57 jaunte  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:53:18pm

re: #53 Lidane

If she drowns, she wasn't a witch!

58 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:53:31pm

re: #37 engineer cat

commented on another blog that i think jazz has failed to innovate since 1980 or so, and the same for rock 'n' roll since the early 90s

apparently i'm lucky that it is not possible to actually burn heretics on the intertubes

I think there has been a lot innovative rock music since the 90s.

59 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:53:37pm

re: #46 allegro

If you haven't seen it, check out the BBC movie "Eroica." It's Beethoven's 3rd done on period instruments with a dramatization of its first performance. I loved it so much I've bought 5 or 6 copies of the DVD as gifts.

Ah, thanks for the tip. I watch more BBC than American TV these days. I'll keep an eye out for that one.

60 Kdizzle  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:53:42pm

Doesn't feel good to realize that Hillary Clinton is ten times(hell lets take that up to one hundred) the patriot that these little syphilitics that indulge in the most obscene fantasies of secession and all the crimes against humanity that that would let them indulge in towards the civilian populations that happen to disagree with there particular point of view they would come across that a civil war would entail?

Makes me very happy to realize that in one hundred years, Hillary Clinton will probably be take up several chapters in the history of Barack Obama's presidency, while these fools will be at most a footnote.

61 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:53:55pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

Visions of little radio-controlled helicopters flying NOE over office cubicles, playing Ride of the Valkyries.

You know you're cultured when:

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

62 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:53:55pm

i'm a bit of a classical music nerd, but i'm rather less well briefed on the heart of the repertoire, that is, mozart and on through the 19th century symphonic music than i am in regard to baroque and before e.g. english consort music, like viol consorts and suchlike...

63 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:54:24pm

re: #53 Lidane

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That pretty much sheds light on the extreme RW movement

64 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:54:53pm

re: #58 Mich-again

I think there has been a lot innovative rock music since the 90s.

i'm all ears, but: examples?

also, what would you call the new genres since grunge?

65 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:55:09pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

You know you're cultured when:

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

Number one makes me think of Bugs Bunny
Number three is impossible.

66 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:55:10pm

re: #48 jaunte

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And tomorrow, it'll be "It's awful 'convenient' that she needs to be hospitalized the same week she was scheduled to testify..."

67 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:56:08pm

re: #62 engineer cat

i'm a bit of a classical music nerd, but i'm rather less well briefed on the heart of the repertoire, that is, mozart and on through the 19th century symphonic music than i am in regard to baroque and before e.g. english consort music, like viol consorts and suchlike...

I love the stuff. I wish I could make a living restoring gambas and lutes but it's a really tight market. I'll have to stick with the cellos.

68 b_sharp  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:56:13pm

re: #56 Interesting Times

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More like assholephilia.

69 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:57:04pm

william tell overture: one of the best known pieces of music in the world

william tell, the opera that follows: hardly ever performed

70 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:57:56pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

You know you're cultured when:

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

Extra ding for Allan Sherman.

71 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:59:30pm

re: #69 engineer cat

william tell overture: one of the best known pieces of music in the world

william tell, the opera that follows: hardly ever performed

Musicians' union hates it since the hideous apple accident.

72 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:00:27pm

Download complete!

Syncing to my MP3 now.

73 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:01:09pm

Since we're recommending music tonight, here's mine:

Mischief and Mayhem by Jenny Scheinman. Exquisite jazz by a violinist, wonderful rhythms. Easily the most delightful thing I've listened to this year and I only discovered it earlier today due to a "best of" list at a photography blog I read :)

Get it.

74 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:01:35pm

re: #55 freetoken

"Ugly" is probably now inadequate.

re: #63 A Man for all Seasons

That pretty much sheds light on the extreme RW movement

And she probably considers herself a patriot and a good Christian, too.

You know, because Jesus would have said the same thing.

75 Stanghazi  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:01:44pm

Get well Hillary.

looks like i get to keep my nic awhile longer :(

76 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:01:53pm

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

Download complete!

Syncing to my MP3 now.

Might have fumbled the purchase--seems to have stored it instantaneously in the cloud.

77 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:02:39pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

I love the stuff. I wish I could make a living restoring gambas and lutes but it's a really tight market. I'll have to stick with the cellos.

i saw a bunch of viols in a museum of historical musical instruments in copenhagen, had never seen them up close before

their surfaces seemed much less finished than instruments in the violin family, rather rough actually with the curves hardly planed

78 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:03:19pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

Might have fumbled the purchase--seems to have stored it instantaneously in the cloud.

Don't have a cloud account, everything dl's to Windows Media Player which then puts it in the queue to burn to the MP3 player.

79 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:04:26pm
80 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:04:28pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

You know you're cultured when:

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

I can think of various things for all three, but the last is because I played it once upon a time (the viola line) and I love it during the parts no one remembers. That's a really great piece of music and it's a shame that the one chunk is all anyone knows of it.

81 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:05:55pm
82 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:07:24pm

re: #81 Lidane

I'd almost be willing to tweet to tweet back "Pardon me for thinking that if a Republican is breathing, he's lying."

83 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:08:38pm
84 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:09:33pm

re: #83 Lidane

The sad thing is, the last tweet is an obvious parody, but there are real ones just like it.

There are some deeply twisted, stupid people in this country.

85 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:09:54pm

If you expect me to apologize for thinking

yes i guess you're correct if i expect a wingnut to apologize for being a rancid asshole i guess i would indeed be a moron

86 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:10:02pm

re: #81 Lidane

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I will never expect a Republican to apologize for anything. I think it's against their religion.

87 Cinnabar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:10:45pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

You know you're cultured when:

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

I had to look up #1, but not because I'm cultured, I just forgot about the sound track to Apocalypse Now.

88 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:10:50pm

Damn. Conservatives have reached a new low tonight.

89 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:12:40pm

re: #83 Lidane

Even if they did release the medical records (which they absolutely, 100000% should not), they would just accuse them of being fake. Heat maps or something.

90 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:14:05pm

re: #88 Gus

Damn. Conservatives have reached a new low tonight.

Hold tight--they've got 25 hrs to break their 2012 'personal worst'.

91 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:14:29pm

re: #89 The Mountain That Blogs

Photoshopped no doubt. The pixels will not lie!!

92 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:15:16pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Hold tight--they've got 25 hrs to break their 2012 'personal worst'.

They just added one to "the list."

93 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:16:46pm
94 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:16:54pm

re: #81 Lidane

Or perhaps a better tweet would be "Why would anyone expect you to apologize for being evil?"

95 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:17:54pm
96 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:18:27pm

re: #93 Lidane

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Lunatics.

97 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:18:47pm

re: #93 Lidane

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I was totally pwn3d by Right Hand Jab's avatar.

98 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:20:04pm

re: #97 Vicious Babushka

I was totally pwn3d by Right Hand Jab's avatar.

Oh hell--I actually read him as "Right Hand Job".

99 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:20:47pm

re: #64 engineer cat

i'm all ears, but: examples?

also, what would you call the new genres since grunge?

I like how Rock evolved from overproduced hair metal anthems to the garage sound and basic stage setups. Back in the mid 80's, rock singers were required to have a very high range, but nowadays singers can have normal human range. There has been a resurgence in acoustic music on the pop charts as well. That all but disappeared for a few decades. And rock changed some when rap lyrics started to creep into hard rock tracks. That would have been unheard of in the early days of rap and hip-hop.

I enjoy listening to the merging sound of pop/rock/hip hop/dance music that has taken over the top 40 format. That is where pop music is now. Not sure where rock music can go without being part of that.

100 Cinnabar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:21:24pm

How do you fake a blood clot? (The skill might be useful sometime.)

Does this mean she's a potential ally with the right wing on Benghazi, possessing SEKRIT INFORMATION she must be stopped from revealing?

Really?

101 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:23:02pm

Low lifes. Hoodlums. Miscreants. Trouble makers. Bad neighbors. Noisy. Rude. Loud. Obnoxious.

102 Decatur Deb  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:23:49pm

re: #101 Gus

Low lifes. Hoodlums. Miscreants. Trouble makers. Bad neighbors. Noisy. Rude. Loud. Obnoxious.

New Year's invitation list?

103 Bubblehead II  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:25:16pm

re: #102 Decatur Deb

New Year's invitation list?

Nah, Todays Republican Party.

104 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:25:53pm

re: #103 Bubblehead II

Nah, Todays Republican Party.

Armed with binders full of talking points.

105 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:27:03pm

re: #101 Gus

Low lifes. Hoodlums. Miscreants. Trouble makers. Bad neighbors. Noisy. Rude. Loud. Obnoxious.

I will turn off my web cam.

106 simoom  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:27:09pm

I can't find any video of it, but I caught Fox's "The Five" yesterday and the entire Panel, minus Juan Williams, were on the conspiracy theory crazy train with respect to SoS Clinton's concussion.

Looks like they were hitting that angle hard a while back too:
[Link: mediamatters.org...]

[edit: actually, it was the show on the 28th, so two days ago.]

107 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:27:55pm
108 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:28:34pm

re: #101 Gus

Low lifes. Hoodlums. Miscreants. Trouble makers. Bad neighbors. Noisy. Rude. Loud. Obnoxious.

i found this word when researching some language software for spanish:

buscaruidos

literally, "those who go looking for noise" but apparently a word for hoodlums in some dialects

109 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:29:27pm

re: #93 Lidane

110 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:29:35pm
111 jaunte  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:30:26pm

re: #110 Lidane

And here I was thinking he was off the grid.

112 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:30:34pm

re: #101 Gus

Low lifes. Hoodlums. Miscreants. Trouble makers. Bad neighbors. Noisy. Rude. Loud. Obnoxious.

You forgot assclowns and dirtbags, Gus.

113 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:30:35pm

re: #21 Vicious Babushka

I'm downloading the Big Beethoven Box from Amazon for $0.99.

Tried. Won't ship to Canada. Crap.

114 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:30:49pm

re: #108 engineer cat

Did you mean "buscarruidos"?

115 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:31:16pm
116 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:31:46pm

re: #113 Romantic Heretic

You could always buy it as a "gift" for someone in the US and they could email it to you, no?

117 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:32:29pm
118 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:33:22pm

re: #117 Lidane

Well, GHWB was in the hospital too... I guess he was a commie?

119 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:34:39pm

Whackos.

120 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:36:14pm

re: #118 freetoken

Well, GHWB was in the hospital too... I guess he was a commie?

It's just so stupid. This isn't even 12 year old shit.

121 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:36:35pm

Birchers.

122 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:37:02pm

Infowars. Prison Planet. The conservative movement has been taken over by a bunch of whacked out fringers.

123 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:37:13pm

re: #114 freetoken

Did you mean "buscarruidos"?

ah

124 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:37:58pm
125 Kdizzle  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:38:31pm

re: #117 Lidane

So is that Burkean or Oakshottian conservatism on display there?

126 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:39:03pm

BTW, I'm not even trying all that hard to find these tweets. I'm just looking at the #tcot feed.

127 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:39:32pm

re: #124 Lidane

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Sorry, but I'm gonna need to back away. This is just too much filth for me.

I wish a full recovery and a long life for Hillary Clinton.

128 Interesting Times  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:42:01pm
129 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:42:05pm

re: #122 Gus

Infowars. Prison Planet.

Which were preceded by the JBS, who followed upon the heels of Fr. Coughlin.

This is a long living movement of anti-modernism, the rejection of the results of the industrial and then information revolution, both of which have undercut the deep tribalism upon which Western Civilization has struggled in its "tension" (ah, what a useful word...) between being "Christianized" and inter-tribal European warfare.

Modernity has progressively erased the differences between tribes, and this unsettles those who want the old order of things.

130 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:42:52pm
131 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:43:22pm
132 Cinnabar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:44:08pm

re: #126 Lidane

BTW, I'm not even trying all that hard to find these tweets. I'm just looking at the #tcot feed.

Masochist?

133 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:44:50pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

You're one of the few I actually believe when I read that, DF. I salute you, brother.

134 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:44:57pm
135 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:45:39pm

re: #132 Cinnabar

Masochist?

Bored, mostly. Amused that these same people consider themselves patriotic and upstanding, moral citizens.

136 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:45:44pm

re: #134 Lidane

I'm surprised they haven't revisited the claim that she had Vince Foster killed.

137 Stanghazi  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:46:17pm

re: #122 Gus

Infowars. Prison Planet. The conservative movement has been taken over by a bunch of whacked out fringers.

remember the Dixie Chicks. fucking hypocrites!

138 Kdizzle  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:46:56pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

Speaking in civil tones, and using grammatically/structurally correct sentences usually doesn't work with people like that Dark.

Give them a little kick in the pants next time. Less vanilla and more Honey Badger.

139 William of Orange  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:47:35pm

For the record, and to be correct; that article in the update by Jim Treacher was posted Dec. 18. I think it's important to say that cause it now looks as if it was posted after the recent events.

140 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:48:07pm

re: #134 Lidane

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Should make a page.

141 Minor_L  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:48:15pm

Remember when we weren't even allowed to question W's policies, because "RESPECT TEH OFFIS OF TEH PRESIDENZY!"? Had we accused him of murder, the wingnuts' heads would have exploded. Of course, I never did any such thing. These people are disgusting.

142 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:54:09pm

re: #140 Gus

Should make a page.

I should, but that would involve spending more time in the RWNJ cesspool.

I think I'm going to listen to music and try to find something more positive to focus on. :)

143 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:54:59pm

re: #142 Lidane

I should, but that would involve spending more time in the RWNJ cesspool.

I think I'm going to listen to music and try to find something more positive to focus on. :)

I recommended my comment as a hint to Charles. ;)

144 Bubblehead II  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:55:06pm

Night Lizards. 0400 is just around the corner and tomorrow is going to be a bitch. Just damn glad I no longer have to put up with the graveyard NYE crowd anymore.

Sleep well and may the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.

145 Renaissance_Man  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:55:08pm

This is apparently a DVT, not a brain clot, which would be way less likely anyway. DVT in a 65 year old following a concussion is not unusual in the least and not anywhere near as serious as an intracranial one.

146 drool  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:55:24pm

That asshole Krauthammer owes her an apology. He of all people shouldn't be slagging on somebody with a neurological issue.

147 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:55:38pm

How dare you ridicule "Rs" for questioning the timing?

148 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:56:26pm
149 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:57:06pm
150 Cinnabar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:57:59pm

re: #142 Lidane

I should, but that would involve spending more time in the RWNJ cesspool.

I think I'm going to listen to music and try to find something more positive to focus on. :)

Amazon has a really good deal going on Beethoven.

151 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:58:21pm

You know who the real victim is here? The people questioning the timing and those ridiculing Hillary and spreading conspiracy theories. We're the real victims here!

//Wingnut

152 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:59:05pm

re: #133 William Barnett-Lewis

You're one of the few I actually believe when I read that, DF. I salute you, brother.

Thanks, that matters to me.

153 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:00:50pm

re: #126 Lidane

BTW, I'm not even trying all that hard to find these tweets. I'm just looking at the #tcot feed.

Nothing blood-pressure raising on the Derp list, but Bryan isn't active right now.

154 Stanghazi  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:02:24pm

ok im noticing these tweets having 12/31 dates. its only 11 on the east coast correct? are we in some sort of twitter zone?

155 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:04:19pm

timing of HC injury

huhwhut - 'timing' of injuries now fercrissakes?

156 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:05:10pm

re: #154 Stanghazi

ok im noticing these tweets having 12/31 dates. its only 11 on the east coast correct? are we in some sort of twitter zone?

It's 12/31 in Europe, Mideast and Asia.

157 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:05:32pm

re: #156 Vicious Babushka

It's 12/31 in Europe, Mideast and Asia.

South America too.

158 Interesting Times  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:05:36pm

re: #154 Stanghazi

ok im noticing these tweets having 12/31 dates. its only 11 on the east coast correct? are we in some sort of twitter zone?

UTC (you know, one of those Asian time zones...)

159 jaunte  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:06:15pm

re: #155 engineer cat

Sure, it's a classic political move: in a tough place? Faint, fall over, hit your head and get concussed: meeting delayed, problem solved. Roosevelt and Churchill were famous for it.

160 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:07:20pm

re: #157 Vicious Babushka

South America too.

Nova Scotia.

161 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:07:34pm

re: #155 engineer cat

timing of HC injury

huhwhut - 'timing' of injuries now fercrissakes?

Its simple: Benghazi is "Obama's Watergate" and anything that can be used by Fox News to 'prove' a conspiracy is objectively good. Why? Because shut up, that's why!

///

162 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:11:12pm

Ouch!

163 jaunte  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:11:58pm

re: #162 Gus

Hah! I had him at #22.

164 Interesting Times  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:13:29pm
165 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:13:52pm

All one has to do is read the comments over on the WND story about Mrs. Clinton to know where the ugly Christian Right is going.

166 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:15:15pm

I put this thing @dhrxsol1234 on the Derp list but then I had to remove it because it was too insane for the Derp list.

167 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:16:19pm

From the WND Comments:

not arsenic, the gov't has a gun that van shoot a person that will leave no ivisable holes, it shoots a frozen type bullet that melts once in the body and causes a heart attack,, they knew Andrew Breitbart had heart trouble and he was out walking when this might have occured, try to Google "Gun that the gov't has that does this" I do not remember the site but will try to find it, a woman who worked for the gov't said that this type of weapon does exist. he did not die of natural causes, he knew to much


classic

168 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:16:43pm

re: #163 jaunte

Hah! I had him at #22.

Let me check date and time stamps and contact the authority.

169 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:17:56pm

re: #163 jaunte

Hah! I had him at #22.

54 minutes ago. You definitely beat him. I'll contact legal.

170 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:18:06pm

re: #163 jaunte

Hah! I had him at #22.

And they're demanding clot certificates now too.

171 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:19:32pm

re: #170 Mich-again

And they're demanding clot certificates now too.

I'm not a doctor but I question the timing.

172 celticdragon  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:19:39pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

You know you're cultured when:

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

How about actually choreographing a ballet to Sibelius's Swan of Tuonela.

Does that count?

(yes, I did choreograph a ballet to this and it was rehearsed, although it was never performed)

173 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:19:39pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

You know you're cultured when:

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

For "Dance of the Hours", you have to think of dancing ostriches in tutus.

174 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:20:55pm

re: #173 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

175 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:22:04pm

I need Japanese cats.

176 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:23:49pm

re: #167 Iwouldprefernotto

Ice bullets? They have been reading too many Dan Brown books.

Mythbusters' very first episode actually busted that one. And they revisited it (and busted it again) later.

177 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:24:55pm

Compassionate conservatism in action:

Those took less than a minute to find once the page loaded.

Gotta love these upstanding, moral patriots.

178 jaunte  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:26:46pm

re: #177 Lidane

They really aren't taking the Romney loss well.

179 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:27:25pm

re: #177 Lidane

Compassionate conservatism in action:

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Those took less than a minute to find once the page loaded.

Gotta love these upstanding, moral patriots.

Well, at least Dana Loesch isn't talking about anything but the sequined outfit that she is wearing for New Year's Eve.

180 Interesting Times  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:27:48pm

re: #178 jaunte

They really aren't taking the Romney loss objective reality well.

Fixed.

181 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:28:47pm

re: #177 Lidane

Wingnut science at work

no

I agree. It doesn't.

182 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:28:49pm

re: #178 jaunte

They really aren't taking the Romney loss well.

All they do anymore is clang on pots and pans.

183 celticdragon  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:29:08pm

re: #177 Lidane

Sick. Utterly, irretrievably sick.

I wonder how hate can warp a person in such a way.

184 jaunte  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:30:06pm

re: #182 Mich-again

All they do anymore is clang on pots and pans.

"It's a living."
– Charles Panhammer

185 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:31:11pm

re: #177 Lidane

Compassionate conservatism in action:

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Those took less than a minute to find once the page loaded.

Gotta love these upstanding, moral patriots.

@Pudingtane added to the Derp list.

186 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:31:37pm

re: #181 The Mountain That Blogs

I agree. It doesn't.

She got a concussion when she fainted and fell.

Clinton, 65, was suffering from a stomach virus earlier this month when she fainted due to dehydration, causing the concussion.

She could have injured her leg and got a concussion at the same time.

187 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:32:57pm

re: #125 Kdizzle

So is that Burkean or Oakshottian conservatism on display there?

Edmund Burke wasn't a conservative.

188 JAFO  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:33:45pm

re: #165 freetoken

All one has to do is read the comments over on the WND story about Mrs. Clinton to know where the ugly Christian Right is going.

To Hell?

189 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:35:00pm

Conservative humor:

190 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:35:01pm

My Twitter feed is alight with the Redskins win.

191 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:35:59pm

re: #181 The Mountain That Blogs

Wingnut science at work

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I agree. It doesn't.

14,466 followers.

192 JAFO  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:36:58pm

re: #189 Lidane

Conservative humor:

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That actually is kinda funny.

193 Targetpractice  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:37:05pm

Wise fellow over at TPM seems to have answered the "concussion/clot" question:

There isn't much more information other than the above. I am a physician; here is my speculation, which should be taken with a grain of salt. (I also posted this on DailyKos)

The doctors said that her "blood clots" were related to her concussion. The blood clots were being treated with anticoagulants.

It is possible, but unlikely, that she has a subdural hematoma- a blood clot that forms between the dura mater (the outer lining attached to the skull) and the arachnoid mater (the inner lining adhering to the brain).

A subdural hematoma is usually caused by relatively minor head trauma which causes a tearing of small veins. The gradual accumulation of blood causes headaches and neurological symptoms.

I doubt that she has a subdural hematoma because this is NOT treated with anticoagulants. Usual treatment is observation for small clots -or- surgical removal of the clot if the patient has significant neurological symptoms or rapid growth of the clot.

More likely is a deep venous thrombosis (DVT) in the veins of the leg.

Secretary Clinton has several risk factors for a "hypercoaguable state;" a situation where her blood is more likely to clot in low-flow blood vessels like the veins her legs.

Her risks factors include:

- a recent viral gastroenteritis
- dehydration
- bed rest due to the concussion
- and most importantly, prolonged air travel.

The treatment for a DVT is anticoagulants.

If she does indeed have a DVT, the prognosis is good. The biggest danger is that a large part of the clot would break off and travel to the lungs, where it would block blood flow through the lungs.

Another danger is the risk of anticoagulation- either not enough, leading to growth of the clot -or- too much causing dangerous bleeding. With proper monitoring (which I am sure she will get!) the risk is low.

After several days of an injectable anticoagulant, she would be sent home on an oral anticoagulant.

We wish her well!!

An interesting note is that a very similar thing happened to Richard Nixon during his 1960 campaign for the presidency.

194 simoom  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:37:13pm

re: #48 jaunte

Well there goes any sympathy I had for Grenell after Romney's shoddy treatment of him:

195 BongCrodny  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:37:46pm

re: #162 Gus

Ouch!

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re: #163 jaunte

Hah! I had him at #22.

I like "clotters," but I think "strokers" might be more appropriate given the mindset.

196 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:38:19pm

re: #190 Gus

My Twitter feed is alight with the Redskins win.

Go Potatoes!

197 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:39:21pm

re: #186 Mich-again

That's possible. More likely she got the clot from immobilization after the fall, as we hadn't heard anything about an injured leg.

198 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:42:41pm
199 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:42:56pm

re: #194 simoom

Wow, there goes any sympathy I had for Grenell after Romney's shoddy treatment of him:

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Hmmm... Maybe Romney knew what kind of person Grenell really is?

200 jaunte  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:45:30pm
201 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:46:45pm

re: #197 The Mountain That Blogs

Targetpractice answered it in 193..

202 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:47:49pm

re: #200 jaunte

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For me this tells me that Hillary won't be running in 2016. She's done enough already and deserves her retirement.

203 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:47:50pm

re: #201 Mich-again

I know, but wrote that before I saw it. Certainly have nothing to add to it.

204 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:49:35pm

You've heard of "Montezuma's Revenge"?

Well, I think there is also a "Romney's Revenge": What happens to wingnuts after they drink the fluid from their own election-time hyper-hatred after grudgingly supporting a nominal candidate pushed upon them; pathology of which includes uncontrollable tweeting of random stupidity and vitriol at any well known person who is not one of their own.

205 Kdizzle  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:50:14pm

re: #187 Romantic Heretic

They way that he wrote of representative democracy makes me believe he very much was.

Maybe less populist nimrodism of the Tea Party, and more Aristocratic Elitism, but definitely conservative.

206 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:50:27pm

re: #33 Cinnabar

And now so am I. Thanks!

Me too. You can't buy that much culture for a dollar these days.

Well, actually you can.Freedom Beethoven costs a buck o five seven, yeah...

My small "classical" collection is mainly Baroque... Boccherini and Corelli, plus the Bach Cello Suites and some bits from Dvorak and Ravel. I never really gave Beethoven a listen. The word that comes to mind is "explosive" judging by the first few tracks.

207 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:50:30pm

Oh, of course. It all makes sense now! We're living in 19th Century France and Obama is marching his critics off to the guillotine. Who knew?

208 Kragar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:51:05pm

Nice to see the wingnuts staying classy.

209 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:51:30pm

re: #167 Iwouldprefernotto

From the WND Comments:

not arsenic, the gov't has a gun that van shoot a person that will leave no ivisable holes, it shoots a frozen type bullet that melts once in the body and causes a heart attack,, they knew Andrew Breitbart had heart trouble and he was out walking when this might have occured, try to Google "Gun that the gov't has that does this" I do not remember the site but will try to find it, a woman who worked for the gov't said that this type of weapon does exist. he did not die of natural causes, he knew to much

classic

Your search - "Gun that the gov't has that does this" - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
Try different keywords.
Try more general keywords.

210 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:51:53pm

re: #207 Lidane

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Oh, of course. It all makes sense now! We're living in 19th Century France and Obama is marching his critics off to the guillotine. Who knew?

Ha ha but we'll be waiting with our AR-15s!

211 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:52:07pm

re: #172 celticdragon

How about actually choreographing a ballet to Sibelius's Swan of Tuonela.

Does that count?

(yes, I did choreograph a ballet to this and it was rehearsed, although it was never performed)

That is too bad. I'd love to see that.

It's funny. I really dislike opera but you can't keep me away from the dance... ;)

212 Kdizzle  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:55:41pm

re: #207 Lidane

I don't understand it.

Is Obama representing the Aristocracies refusal to share power with the poor and bourgeoisie classes, or the rise of those classes against a cruel and recalcitrant Aristocracy?

Or are these people to stupid to understand the historical references, and simply using a generic struggle against a great power trope that imagines they themselves being a repressed minority and Obama being the all powerful tyrant that they are rising up against?

I'll just settle on stupid in general.

213 Kragar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:55:43pm

Well, got all caught up on Dr. Who and managed to watch John Dies at the End.

215 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:58:09pm

re: #212 Kdizzle

You're asking for too much.

216 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:58:33pm
217 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 8:59:57pm

re: #207 Lidane

Oh, of course. It all makes sense now! We're living in 19th Century France and Obama is marching his critics off to the guillotine. Who knew?

I have read more than one place where the lesson of Les Mis' is that real freedom only comes if the population is armed.

Well, in 1800, that could be true. In 2012? With out high explosives, artillery and air support? Yeah, fucking, right.

218 celticdragon  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:00:05pm

re: #211 William Barnett-Lewis

That is too bad. I'd love to see that.

It's funny. I really dislike opera but you can't keep me away from the dance... ;)

I had a vhs tape of the rehearsal, but that is long gone. It was meant to look a bit like La Bayadere, although I borrowed freely from several choreographers(the music is a lovely tone poem about the Swan of Tuonela swimming on the river separating the living from the realm of the dead. The English horn is the voice of the Swan). My dance days were twenty years, seventy pounds, one broken foot (from a bad tours jete') and two back surgeries ago, ahem. :)

I stick with Warhammer 40k, playing the harp and collecting porcelain china when my spouse isn't looking...

219 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:00:47pm

IBD is a dirty rag.

220 Kragar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:00:52pm

re: #212 Kdizzle

You're talking about people who cheered when Michelle Bachmann said they were going to charge forward like the Light Brigade.

Historical comparisons are not exactly their forte.

221 Kronocide  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:01:11pm

Wingnuts keeping it classy fo realz.

222 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:02:11pm
223 celticdragon  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:03:51pm

re: #220 Kragar

You're talking about people who cheered when Michelle Bachmann said they were going to charge forward like the Light Brigade.

Historical comparisons are not exactly their forte.

So they intend to charge at Russian artillery in the Crimea?

Pass the popcorn! This should be good...

224 Kragar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:04:37pm

re: #209 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Suggestions:

Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
Try different keywords.
Try more general keywords.

Try not being a fucking idiot.

225 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:05:07pm

re: #161 Dark_Falcon

Its simple: Benghazi is "Obama's Watergate" and anything that can be used by Fox News to 'prove' a conspiracy is objectively good. Why? Because shut up, that's why!

///

If Hunter S. Thompson was still with us he would absolutely savage that comparison...

226 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:05:24pm

The way facebook comments are set up is fucked. Now you have to log into facebook to see comments on websites? Fuck that. Not now not ever.

227 celticdragon  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:05:50pm

re: #224 Kragar

Try not being a fucking idiot.

Baby steps...baby steps. You mustn't expect too much at once, you know.

/

228 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:06:53pm

re: #226 Amory Blaine

The way facebook comments are set up is fucked. Now you have to log into facebook to see comments on websites? Fuck that. Not now not ever.

It's great. We are all far better off for never having to see comments on websites.

229 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:08:09pm

re: #226 Amory Blaine

The way facebook comments are set up is fucked. Now you have to log into facebook to see comments on websites? Fuck that. Not now not ever.

re: #226 Amory Blaine

The way facebook comments are set up is fucked. Now you have to log into facebook to see comments on websites? Fuck that. Not now not ever.

I never bit on my space or facebook. I have a google+ page but google knows everything about us anyway so it didn't make much difference. But giving my info to facebook for free when at least google offered as service? F-U Facebook .... :LOL:

230 celticdragon  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:08:30pm

Gonna hit the sack, lizards. Happy New Year if I don't get to say so before tomorrow night!

Have a safe and happy evening!

231 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:08:48pm

re: #226 Amory Blaine

Facebook, to me, is a waste of time. I don't use my account over there, and don't plan to.

232 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:08:52pm

I see little hope for this country.

233 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:09:50pm

If i'm reading comment on IBD, why should I have to log in to facebook to see comments? Fucking stupid and greedy.

234 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:11:04pm

re: #232 Gus

235 Kronocide  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:12:36pm

re: #232 Gus

I see little hope for this country.

Days like today with the Hillary thing... yep. Fucking sick assholes.

236 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:12:46pm

re: #233 Amory Blaine

If i'm reading comment on IBD, why should I have to log in to facebook to see comments? Fucking stupid and greedy.

If it requires people who want to post comments to reveal their FB account, then I'm all for it. But if you just want to read comments, I don't see why you should have to be logged into anything. Might be a way for FB to make money.

237 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:14:03pm

re: #234 freetoken

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Collection agencies. Marketing. Lawsuits. Judge Judy. Jude Law. Quentin Tarantino as genius.

238 Four More Tears  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:15:09pm

re: #232 Gus

I see little hope for this country.

And now, one the final day of 2012, you and the far-right agree on something...

239 ninja cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:17:25pm

re: #21 Vicious Babushka

Thanks, great deal I would have missed. Still downloading.

240 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:17:50pm

re: #238 Four More Tears

And now, one the final day of 2012, you and the far-right agree on something...

No one wants to take the bulls by the horn. These politicians keep "playing it safe." I really don't give a shit in the end.

241 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:18:13pm

watching 'apocalypse: the second world war', narrated by martin sheen

so far, i have learned this: martin sheen cannot speak french

242 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:18:46pm

re: #232 Gus

I see little hope for this country.

Ridicule is the probably the best way to oppose right wing extremism. Kooks hate it when you make fun of them way worse than when you argue with them.

243 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:19:07pm

re: #240 Gus

I'm still waiting for one of our "leaders" to openly discuss the changes in society and social upheavals in a way that isn't purely pandering to their own voting blocks.

We're definitely short on statesmen, but long on politicians.

244 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:19:45pm

I'm trying to grok the theology in this one:

245 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:20:29pm

α & ω

246 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:21:11pm

re: #245 Amory Blaine

Rootbeer?

247 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:22:46pm

The GOP hates the entire concept of unions, but in the fiscal cliff negotiations they are forcing 98% of the people to "walk the picket line" for the benefit of the other 2%. Solidarity Forever..

248 Gus  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:23:04pm

re: #243 freetoken

I'm still waiting for one of our "leaders" to openly discuss the changes in society and social upheavals in a way that isn't purely pandering to their own voting blocks.

We're definitely short on statesmen, but long on politicians.

In the end they're still answering to Billy Graham.

249 Kronocide  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:23:30pm

I might have fixed my sister in law's WiFi, the bane of my existence on family trips. Drops all the time, drives me nuts. I had a potential spare router ready and packed on the last trip by my wife didn't want me to crack at it because 'they've never complained.' Argh.

Alone in the house while everybody else busy. Took a crack at getting into setup to check firmware. Found Channel Width at 20MHz/40MHz. That seems like bad juju. Switched to 20MHz.

WiFi not dropped in 30 minutes. This could be the highlight of my year.

250 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:24:00pm

re: #246 freetoken

Mmmm that sounds good. A nice frothy root beer.

251 Kragar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:24:38pm

re: #250 Amory Blaine

Mmmm that sounds good. A nice frothy root beer.

Santorum Ale?

252 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:24:48pm

HOw is the evening?

253 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:25:55pm

re: #251 Kragar

Oh yeah. Chunky style.

254 Destro  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:26:00pm

Is this a legitimate blood clot?


Seriously, I hope she gets better since I have every intention of voting for her for president 4 years from now and having her win in a historic 50 state landslide.

255 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:26:27pm

re: #248 Gus

In the end they're still answering to Billy Graham.

Amazing, isn't it? Given the implications of the limited public announcements from the elderly Graham this past election, and the full on ODS from his son Franklin, one would think that some senior elected official would rightfully trash them, no?

But no, don't cross that line, not in America.

256 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:30:20pm

re: #254 Destro

Is this a legitimate blood clot?

..from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape blood clot, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.

257 Kragar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:33:00pm

It is well known that blood clots are just manifestation of God's will.
/

258 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:33:09pm

re: #250 Amory Blaine

Mmmm that sounds good. A nice frothy root beer.

I was thinking about a shot of vodka from the freezer.

259 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:33:46pm

re: #245 Amory Blaine

α & ω

re: #246 freetoken

Rootbeer?

this is absolute proof that the founding fathers were teetotalling 1st century christian martyrs

260 Four More Tears  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:34:31pm

re: #256 Mich-again

..from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape blood clot, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.

My own family went through something quite similar.

Well, no, it wasn't a blood clot, more of a cramp, really, but to a father they're almost exactly the same.

261 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:40:39pm

re: #246 freetoken

Maybe we got it wrong. Jesus was just saying he really likes root beer.

262 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:44:12pm

Why does G-d need a beverage?

263 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:54:12pm

re: #262 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Why does G-d need a beverage?

I thought BBQ's often were attended by drinking?

264 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 9:57:15pm

re: #262 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Why does G-d need a beverage?

He gets thirsty?

265 Kronocide  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:22:24pm

re: #262 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Why does G-d need a beverage?

He doesn't need it, he wants it. That's why he made absinthe.

266 Kragar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:29:38pm

re: #265 Kronocide

He doesn't need it, he wants it. That's why he made absinthe.

Well, you know what they say.

Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder.

267 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:30:46pm
268 Lidane  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:42:56pm

The Mayans got the date wrong:

Kim Kardashian pregnant with Kanye West's baby

269 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:47:29pm

re: #268 Lidane

Doesn't that make it the Harsesis?

270 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:48:00pm
271 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:48:03pm

Kanye West says Auto-Tune makes him a better singer

Kanye West has reacted to criticism of his heavy use of Auto-Tune on new album 808s & Heartbreaks, claiming that the software has actually made him a better singer.

"I get a lot of backlash for using [Auto-Tune] because it's a tool people use when they can't sing," says West. "What it does for me, if I sing off-key, it really points that out. It points out the bad notes. So what I have to do is sing more perfect".

272 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:48:43pm

re: #262 Holidays are Family Fun Time

god made beer but the devil made wine
i drink plenty of beer in the summertime
god made beer to help us feel good
and make the girls to love us like we knew they would

273 Kragar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:50:45pm

My friends are doomed next weekend. Reading up on one of my Christmas presents. "D3 Infantry units may infiltrate."

Chaos Terminators are infantry.

274 freetoken  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:54:40pm

I pondering using the world "Peeing" in the title of a new Page... pondering this ...

275 engineer cat  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:55:43pm

re: #271 Amory Blaine

Kanye West says Auto-Tune makes him a better singer

i wonder how well the auto tune can bend them blues notes? i guess somewun hev programmed them in but that wouldn't allow much for expression muchlike or nothin

276 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 10:56:31pm

re: #268 Lidane

I aint saying she's a gold digger...

277 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 11:05:23pm

re: #275 engineer cat

i wonder how well the auto tune can bend them blues notes? i guess somewun hev programmed them in but that wouldn't allow much for expression muchlike or nothin

I could see a singer using autotune like a hack golfer uses one of those TV offer golf clubs with a hinged shaft that is supposed to teach you how to swing correctly.

278 Kragar  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 11:08:14pm

The moral of the story; make sure you've got an agent lined up when your home porno video gets "leaked".

279 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 11:09:40pm

re: #277 Mich-again

If some singers from the past, say Astrud Gilberto, had used autotune, they might never have become famous. Gilberto's casual (and untrained) singing style was a lot of her appeal.

280 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 11:15:22pm

re: #279 wheat-dogghazi

If some singers from the past, say Astrud Gilberto, had used autotune, they might never have become famous. Gilberto's casual (and untrained) singing style was a lot of her appeal.

Autotune might be helpful for training, but I don't think it would make a great singer sound better, unless they wanted to sound like a robot. I can't imagine Frank Sinatra or Bette Midler through an autotune.

281 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 11:27:30pm

Sinatra and Midler don't need autotuning. I can't recall either of them singing off-key. It's pop stars who need it more, so they sound appropriately packaged.

282 Amory Blaine  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 11:53:01pm

Tag knows tone.

283 Kronocide  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 11:59:02pm

Bolton? Bolton?

284 Kragar  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 12:10:44am
285 freetoken  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:30:42am

Ok, I think I've decided - I'm going with "peeing"...

286 freetoken  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 1:31:46am
287 RadicalModerate  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 2:40:07am

If last week's media statement wasn't reason enough to think that the NRA has gone totally around the bend, we get his story.

Silencers: The NRA’s latest big lie

It should surprise no one that the NRA has recently thrown its weight behind an industry campaign to deregulate and promote the use of silencers. Under the trade banner of the American Silencer Association, manufacturers have come together with the support of the NRA to rebrand the silencer as a safety device belonging in every all-American gun closet. To nurture this potentially large and untapped market, the ASA last April sponsored the first annual all-silencer gun shoot and trade show in Dallas. America’s silencer makers are each doing their part. SWR Suppressors is asking survivalists to send a picture of their “bugout bag” for a chance to win an assault rifle silencer. The firm Silencero — “We Dig Suppressors and What They Do” — has put together a helpful “Silencers Are Legal” website and produced a series of would-be viral videos featuring this asshole.

This Silencer Awareness Campaign is today’s gun lobby in a bottle. The coordinated effort brings together the whole family: manufacturers, dealers, the gun press, rightwing lawmakers at every level of government, and the NRA. Each are doing their part to chip away at federal gun regulation in the name of profits and ideology. Together, they plan to strip the longstanding regulatory regime around silencers, and reintroduce them to the gun-buying public as wholesome, children-friendly accessories, as harmless as car mufflers.

In case you’re wondering, the answer is yes, the gun lobby’s grand strategy rests grotesquely on fake concern for child hearing health. Among the opening shots in the campaign was a feature in the February 2011 issue of Gun World, “Silence is Golden,” penned by the veteran gun writer Jim Dickson. “One only has to look at children in the rest of the world learning to shoot with silencers, protecting their tender young ears, to see what an innocent safety device we are talking about here,” writes Dickson. “To use an overworked propaganda phrase, legalize silencers ‘for the sake of the children.’”

288 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 3:06:20am

re: #287 RadicalModerate

If last week's media statement wasn't reason enough to think that the NRA has gone totally around the bend, we get his story.

Silencers: The NRA’s latest big lie

People are starting to realize that the NRA does not represent all gun owners, it represents the gun manufacturers' lobby and a small minority of gun fetishists.

I hope that politicians will start to learn that they not need fear the wrath of the NRA anymore.

289 TedStriker  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 3:43:59am

re: #287 RadicalModerate

If last week's media statement wasn't reason enough to think that the NRA has gone totally around the bend, we get his story.

Silencers: The NRA’s latest big lie

What.The.Fuck?!?

Seriously, "silencers"/suppressors "for the children"?

The only people that I ever saw that had a need for a suppressed weapon are the military, spies, and the Mafia...and these bozos want everyone to have unregulated, unfettered access to them?

There are valid reasons why suppressors are restricted under the NFA.

290 Stentor  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 3:48:52am

Anyone who has a Discus account, go over there like I did, and vote all those assholes' comments down, & all the others goring the wingnuts comments up, so the numbers look a little more even. The only reason those jackholes engage in that kind of behavior is because the other morons over there egg them on by voting their mean-spirited bullshit up, so it just encourages them to do it over and over again.

291 freetoken  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 4:01:51am
292 Randall Gross  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 5:07:42am

re: #115 Gus

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This is the kind of road warrior injury that Kills many, and I'm not surprised that it's now affected Hillary with all of her junketing and diplomatic travels and troubleshooting. Remember that her four years of non stop service kicked off at the end of a long campaign too. Long hours flying, long hours sitting in meetings, too little opportunity to exercise, it all adds up to circulation complications in the legs sometimes. Dehydration and flu certainly doesn't help. I had a friend who died this way - deep vein clot, it got thrown and went to his heart. He was the tech we always sent flying, and all those long hours sitting got to him.

293 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 5:12:28am

It's here, dollar a shot AR ammo at Cheaper than Dirt, bulk no less. You would think there was a ravening zombie horde about to descend on us from Canada, the way people are snapping this stuff up. Retailers are not hesitant to seize the opportunity either.

294 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 5:27:37am

Good morning lizards!

295 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 5:28:11am

Off to Frankfurt...Happy New Year, everyone!!!

296 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 5:32:15am

re: #176 The Mountain That Blogs

Ice bullets? They have been reading too many Dan Brown books.

Mythbusters' very first episode actually busted that one. And they revisited it (and busted it again) later.

But to hard-core conspiracists, that just means Mythbusters is 'a puppet of the conspirators'. Such conspiracists cannot be made to accept the truth, because their illusions mean too much to them.

297 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 5:33:27am

More hi-fi idiocy:

[Link: www.amazon.co.uk...]

£59 for an 'audiophile' usb cable lol. Your ones and zeros will somehow be all shiny now.

299 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 5:44:04am

Hmm. Browsing through the forums over at StrategyPage.com. Here's one called United States Discussion Board. Interesting topics there.

300 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 5:54:38am

re: #299 Gus

Hmm. Browsing through the forums over at StrategyPage.com. Here's one called United States Discussion Board. Interesting topics there.

They let people start their own topics there, some of it is fruitcake stuff. The sites articles, however, are always sane.

301 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 6:02:46am

Oh shit...damn fucking terrorists. Thank God he was smart enough to check under the car before his kids were blown up.

Belfast police officer's two children were about to get into booby-trap bomb car

A foiled attempt to murder a police officer in Northern Ireland was carried out by dissident republicans who could also have killed his family, police said.

The Belfast-based Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) constable was about to take his wife and two young children out for Sunday lunch yesterday when he checked under his car outside his house in the city and discovered a viable device.

Assistant Chief Constable George Hamilton said: "If that officer had not checked under his car we would have been looking at a murder or multiple murders."

302 Randall Gross  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 6:02:51am

[Link: www.npr.org...]

303 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 6:06:14am

re: #301 NJDhockeyfan

Oh shit...damn fucking terrorists. Thank God he was smart enough to check under the car before his kids were blown up.

Belfast police officer's two children were about to get into booby-trap bomb car

Belfast officers had to get in the habit of checking for bombs during 'The Troubles'. Thankfully, this officer kept that habit and so foiled the 'Real IRA' bomber.

304 Randall Gross  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 6:10:45am

Turns out this is not Hillary Clinton's first clot behind that knee, she was also treated in 1998.

305 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 6:55:01am

Hillary clot was an inside job man! //

306 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 6:57:28am
307 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 7:02:20am
308 Mr.Boots  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 7:03:20am

Serious stuff. I've had DVTs in both legs, one behind my left knee. Extremely painful. I ended up having necrotic flesh, due to the permanent impairment of my circulation, on my shin removed several years later.The one in my right thigh broke off numerous times and the particles went to my lungs and thankfully didn't make it to my heart.

Normal treatment these days is several days of Lovenox treatment in the hospital, and most probably Coumadin for the rest of her life, along with a compression stocking. This could have serious impact on her future ability to fly and on her possible presidential bid.

Good luck Madame Secretary.

309 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 7:16:05am
310 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 7:28:08am

The NRA reveals the next phase of its pro-gun policy to be implemented after introducing untrained volunteers armed with assault weapons to the nations schools. Wayne LaPierre states that with this new initiative the NRA will gain the wholehearted support and financial backing of the Christian Right...

An armed fetus is a safe fetus...


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311 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 7:35:30am

re: #307 NJDhockeyfan

I posted a page for KT...

OWS Activist Arrested in NYC With Explosives/Weapons

Modified from my comment on NJDHF's Page:

Bear in mind that the shotgun found in that woman's apartment is a Mossberg 500, a pump action shotgun that no one is talking about banning. So we come to the point yet again that those bent on killing will find a way to kill. Far better than gun control is early detection.

312 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 7:51:35am

re: #311 Dark_Falcon

Modified from my comment on NJDHF's Page:

Bear in mind that the shotgun found in that woman's apartment is a Mossberg 500, a pump action shotgun that no one is talking about banning. So we come to the point yet again that those bent on killing will find a way to kill. Far better than gun control is early detection.

Kudos to the NYPD for catching these bastards before they were able to do any damage or worse.

313 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 7:56:56am

re: #312 NJDhockeyfan

Kudos to the NYPD for catching these bastards before they were able to do any damage or worse.

Quite Concur. The NYPD has proven to be effective in a counter-terrorist capacity, as these and other dirtbags have found.

314 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:07:42am

re: #287 RadicalModerate

If last week's media statement wasn't reason enough to think that the NRA has gone totally around the bend, we get his story.

Silencers: The NRA’s latest big lie

Great. So they want someone to be able to blast up a classroom without all the noise to warn the next classroom across the hall of what is coming. Sounds like a reasonable plan if you are a complete moron.

315 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:24:26am

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

You know you're cultured when:

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

Thanks to my father a work by Strauss goes "The Blue Danube is not blue, it's brown, ha ha, ha ha."* Not even 2001 broke me from that.

* - thank you, Spike Jones.

316 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:25:59am

re: #314 Eventual Carrion

Great. So they want someone to be able to blast up a classroom without all the noise to warn the next classroom across the hall of what is coming. Sounds like a reasonable plan if you are a complete moron.

Sound suppressors don't really make the firing of a gun silent and if you were in the next room you'd know you were hearing gunfire. But what they actually do is reduce noise levels enough to prevent hearing damage as well as reduce sound enough that if you were further away than 50 meters you wouldn't know a gun was fired unless the user fired a burst, which only full-auto weapons can do. Sound suppressors get a bad rap, but their main purpose is to reduce noice levels to prevent hearing damage.

317 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:35:22am

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

Sound suppressors don't really make the firing of a gun silent and if you were in the next room you'd know you were hearing gunfire. But what they actually do is reduce noise levels enough to prevent hearing damage as well as reduce sound enough that if you were further away than 50 meters you wouldn't know a gun was fired unless the user fired a burst, which only full-auto weapons can do. Sound suppressors get a bad rap, but their main purpose is to reduce noice levels to prevent hearing damage.

Use ear plugs. And the classrooms I was taught in had thick walls that dampened all but the very noisiest room full of kids from interfering with other classrooms.

318 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:40:20am

re: #307 NJDhockeyfan

I posted a page for KT...

OWS Activist Arrested in NYC With Explosives/Weapons

Wow.

Greene is an activist with Occupy Wall Street and friends told police his political views are 'extreme,' a source told the newspaper.

The NYPD told MailOnline they are investigating whether Gleidman has ties to the protest group, as well.

Yet moonbats are still shocked as to why the police and feds were interested in monitoring OWS.

319 Kronocide  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:42:45am

re: #297 Jimmah

More hi-fi idiocy:

[Link: www.amazon.co.uk...]

£59 for an 'audiophile' usb cable lol. Your ones and zeros will somehow be all shiny now.

I loves me some good electronics snake oil writing. That's good stuff.

320 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:43:39am

Morning, Lizards! Apparently, the RWNJs have decided to end the year on a derpy note:

This last one gets me:

Yes, because the RWNJs never, ever demonize LGBT people. Ever.

321 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:44:40am

re: #318 Killgore Trout

Wow.

Yet moonbats are still shocked as to why the police and feds were interested in monitoring OWS.

Because they are being suppressed by The Man!
/

322 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:48:00am

re: #321 NJDhockeyfan

Because they are being suppressed by The Man!
/

- From any NRA speech.
:P

323 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:48:26am

re: #321 NJDhockeyfan

Because they are being suppressed by The Man!
/

As if the bomb materials aren't bad enough....

Officers also found a flare gun that could be used as a grenade launcher, a modified Mossberg 500 12-gauge shotgun, nine high-capacity rifle magazines and ammunition, according to the Post.

NYC has some very serious gun control laws. These idiots are in a lot of trouble.

324 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:49:23am

re: #307 NJDhockeyfan

I posted a page for KT..
re: #318 Killgore Trout

I was just reading about that and thinking of doing the same thing!!

Of course, with KT's "obsession" for OWS I figured he's already seen it!!

Meeting At The Bottom 10 in 20 minutes guys
///

325 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:51:05am

Posted without comment:

The Times of Israel: Gentiles of the Year 2012

Newt Gingrich failed in his bid for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012, but not before burning through millions of dollars donated by Jewish casino mogul Sheldon Adelson and sparking considerable outrage by referring to the Palestinians as an “invented people.” Gingrich stood his ground, saying he supported a negotiated peace but that the onus was on the Palestinians.

326 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:51:27am

re: #320 Lidane

Morning, Lizards! Apparently, the RWNJs have decided to end the year on a derpy note:

[Embedded content]

Yes, because the RWNJs never, ever demonize LGBT people. Ever.

It's. //

327 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:52:17am

re: #325 Lidane

Posted without comment:

The Times of Israel: Gentiles of the Year 2012

Times of Israel is owned by Sheldon Adelson.

328 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:54:15am

re: #321 NJDhockeyfan

re: #323 Killgore Trout

Gleidman’s father is Dr Paul Gleidman, the Columbia University-educated director of radiation oncology at Beth Israel Hospital’s Brooklyn division.

Her mother is Susyn Schops Gliedman, a top New York real estate agent.

Morgan Gliedman grew up in an upscale apartment on Park Avenue.

I wonder if she protested her 1%er living conditions growing up?
//

329 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:54:24am

Except for that "Separation of Church and State" thing, Bryan.

330 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:54:36am

re: #327 Vicious Babushka

Times of Israel is owned by Sheldon Adelson.

You'd think Sheldon would want to forget how much money he wasted on Newt. Guess not.

331 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:56:09am

re: #320 Lidane

Morning, Lizards! Apparently, the RWNJs have decided to end the year on a derpy note:

[Embedded content]

Yes, because the RWNJs never, ever demonize LGBT people. Ever.

That doesn't sound like George Washington. Here's some more BS quotes I found related to that quote:

George Washington

Perhaps the most ‘infamous’ bogus saying attributed to a Founding Father is the ‘liberty teeth’ quote alleged to have been said by George Washington. One version of this tale reads:

Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie wagon, and citizen's firearms are indelibly related.

From the moment the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to ensure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable.

Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 99/100 percent of them by their silence indicate they are in safe and sane hands.

The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference; they deserve a place of honor with all that's good.

When firearms, go all goes; we need them every hour.

[Link: saf.org...]

332 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:56:40am

re: #320 Lidane

Morning, Lizards! Apparently, the RWNJs have decided to end the year on a derpy note:

[Embedded content]

Yes, because the RWNJs never, ever demonize LGBT people. Ever.

The last 3 are indeed DERPy. The first has a ring of truth for me and I retweeted it.

333 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:58:00am

Made my bread dough! Now it's rising.

334 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:58:28am

re: #333 Vicious Babushka

Made my bread dough! Now it's rising.

IT'S A MIRACLE!!
//

335 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:58:35am

re: #332 Dark_Falcon

The last 3 are indeed DERPy. The first has a ring of truth for me and I retweeted it.

The first sounds like complete utter bullshit. Find me a citation for that quote.

336 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 8:59:57am

re: #335 Gus

The first sounds like complete utter bullshit. Find me a citation for that quote.

and bring me goblet of wine and the head of a wild boar!!!
/

337 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:01:28am

re: #336 sattv4u2

and bring me goblet of wine and the head of a wild boar!!!
/

Evil plans! Washington never used speech like that.

338 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:02:08am

re: #337 Gus

Evil plans! Washington never used speech like that.

I know. He was too busy whittling his teeth!
/

339 Kronocide  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:03:21am

re: #324 sattv4u2

Meeting At The Bottom 10 in 20 minutes guys
///

Fucking stupid.

340 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:03:21am

re: #324 sattv4u2

I posted a page for KT..
re: #318 Killgore Trout

I was just reading about that and thinking of doing the same thing!!

Of course, with KT's "obsession" for OWS I figured he's already seen it!!

Meeting At The Bottom 10 in 20 minutes guys
///

Behead those who insult OWS!

341 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:03:36am

re: #338 sattv4u2

I know. He was too busy whittling his teeth!
/

Found it here: [Link: americanwisdomseries.com...]

Might need sunglasses for reading the front page.

342 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:04:52am

re: #339 Kronocide

Fucking stupid.

But that's where the jar of martyr cookies is stored.
//

343 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:05:12am

re: #328 sattv4u2

re: #323 Killgore Trout

Gleidman’s father is Dr Paul Gleidman, the Columbia University-educated director of radiation oncology at Beth Israel Hospital’s Brooklyn division.

Her mother is Susyn Schops Gliedman, a top New York real estate agent.

Morgan Gliedman grew up in an upscale apartment on Park Avenue.

I wonder if she protested her 1%er living conditions growing up?
//

"Occupy my trust fund!"
"No dividends, no peace!"

344 Kronocide  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:05:43am

re: #342 Feline Fearless Leader

But that's where the jar of martyr cookies is stored.
//

More like a Costco 55 gallon bin of martyr cookies.

345 Kronocide  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:06:23am

Occupy Hardon

346 makeitstop  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:06:51am

The last Morning Wingnut Wave of the year is in full swing, I see.

Which RWNJ site gets heavily quoted today?

347 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:07:04am

re: #339 Kronocide

Fucking stupid.

Nahh

I always preferred sexual companions with intelligence!!

348 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:07:20am

re: #333 Vicious Babushka

Made my bread dough! Now it's rising.

I've been busy this winter so not much baking for me. I have recently rediscovered corn bread (Redneck pollenta). Quick and easy to make, stores in the fridge well and comes back to life within 5 minutes in a hot pan.

349 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:07:42am

re: #346 makeitstop

The last Morning Wingnut Wave of the year is in full swing, I see.

Which RWNJ site gets heavily quoted today?

Press TV!

351 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:11:42am

Let's talk about ACORN.
Just as relevant as OWS.
;)

352 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:11:56am

re: #343 Killgore Trout

"Occupy my trust fund!"
"No dividends, no peace!"

She went from a nice house to an apartment in NYC. Her next permanent home will be a jail cell. She's come a long way baby!

353 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:13:26am

But, it's ok.
I totally see the need for some to deflect from the GOP/NRA/The right in general.
Totally.
XD

354 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:14:37am

Heh:

355 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:14:56am

re: #352 NJDhockeyfan

She went from a nice house to an apartment in NYC. Her next permanent home will be a jail cell. She's come a long way baby!

I almost think that since she's rich and white and can afford a high dollar legal team she might get some special treatment but this looks like a pretty serious situation. NY prosecutors don't mess around with terrorism charges.

356 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:15:18am

re: #351 Varek Raith

Let's talk about ACORN.
Just as relevant as OWS.
;)

re: #351 Varek Raith

Let's talk about ACORN.
Just as relevant as OWS.
;)

The NYPD busting potential terrorist attacks it pretty relevant IMO.

357 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:17:06am
And yet another bogus Washington quote:

A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government

The actual quote:

A free people ought not only to be armed but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well digested plan is requisite: And their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories, as tend to render them independent on others, for essential, particularly for military supplies.
---George Washington's First Annual Message to Congress (January 8, 1790)

358 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:17:34am

re: #356 NJDhockeyfan

The NYPD busting potential terrorist attacks it pretty relevant IMO.

As proof that law enforcement is doing its job, yes.

It still doesn't elevate OWS to anything other than a movement that has passed which still has a few holdouts.

359 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:18:16am

More bogus quotes:

The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
-- Falsely attributed to Thomas Jefferson.

360 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:19:03am

re: #359 Gus

More bogus quotes:

The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.
-- More bogus Thomas Jefferson.

The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the state shall not be questioned.
-- Falsely attributed to James Madison.

361 makeitstop  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:19:15am

re: #358 Lidane

As proof that law enforcement is doing its job, yes.

It still doesn't elevate OWS to anything other than a movement that has passed which still has a few holdouts.

It's either OWS or those fucking conspiracy ghoul clotters. Like Varek said, I can understand the desire to deflect.

362 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:21:13am

re: #356 NJDhockeyfan

re: #351 Varek Raith

The NYPD busting potential terrorist attacks it pretty relevant IMO.

There was an actual terrorist attack in Newtown.
But all I hear from the right is more guns!

363 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:21:40am

Because taxpayers are a minority. Really.

364 kirkspencer  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:22:15am

re: #340 Killgore Trout

Behead those who insult OWS!

Yeah, ummm, you did know that in addition to the people like this, there were people caught plotting to assassinate OWSers?

See the FIOA release from the FBI here, page 61.

[redacted] [p]lanned to gather intelligence against the leaders of the protest groups and obtain photographs, then formulate a plan to kill the leadership via suppressed sniper rifles

365 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:22:23am
Jumbling John Adams

Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion...in private self-defense.

The quote above was even mistakenly cited by the NRA-ILA in 1996, and was on the NRA's Web site until at least early 1998 (and has spread to many personal Web pages). (Original NRA page preserved here. The erroneous Adams quote appears near the bottom of the page.)

Less common, and worse:

Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self defense.

The correct quote:

To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, countries or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws.
---John Adams, A Defence of the Constitutions of the United States 475 (1787-1788)

As David Hardy explains, "Adams was thus mindful of the uses of arms (i.e., legitimate self-defense and militia duty) and concerned about misuse for mob action or anarchy." (The Second Amendment and the Historiography of the Bill of Rights, 1987)

366 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:23:01am

re: #356 NJDhockeyfan

re: #351 Varek Raith

The NYPD busting potential terrorist attacks it pretty relevant IMO.

Leaving the legality of NYC gun laws, maybe they were just militia members not terrorists? That would make them patriots would it not?

367 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:25:08am

re: #346 makeitstop

The last Morning Wingnut Wave of the year is in full swing, I see.

Which RWNJ site gets heavily quoted today?

Want an outrage? Here's a couple of LWNJs DERPing on a Page of mine. If you would be so kind as to go there and whack them with a cluebat I'd appreciate it.

368 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:26:28am

re: #364 kirkspencer

Yeah, ummm, you did know that in addition to the people like this, there were people caught plotting to assassinate OWSers?

See the FIOA release from the FBI here, page 61.

[redacted] [p]lanned to gather intelligence against the leaders of the protest groups and obtain photographs, then formulate a plan to kill the leadership via suppressed sniper rifles

Ahhh, there were the patriots I was looking for.

369 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:26:37am

More end-of-year RWNJ derp:

370 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:27:18am

STFU OWSGHAZI!

371 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:31:14am

re: #318 Killgore Trout

Wow.

Yet moonbats are still shocked as to why the police and feds were interested in monitoring OWS.

So they're both guilty already? Interesting. The weapons could have been owned by either of the two or both. Had this been a right winger you would have typically called for due process.

372 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:32:55am

re: #371 Gus

So they're both guilty already? Interesting. The weapons could have been owned by either of the two or both. Had this been a right winger you would have typically called for due process.

He's pissed that they haven't been sent to Gitmo yet.

373 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:34:27am

Before I crash for the night, here in China it is 1.5 hours into 2013. So, Happy New Year, one and all! Don't let the idiots get you down.

374 makeitstop  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:34:56am

re: #318 Killgore Trout

Wow.

Yet moonbats are still shocked as to why the police and feds were interested in monitoring OWS.

Yes, look at all these 'moonbats,' being 'shocked.' LGF comments are just crawling with shocked moonbats.

375 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:39:09am

re: #372 Lidane

He's pissed that they haven't been sent to Gitmo yet.

I'm pretty sure that Stormfront and VNN will jump on this. Here's one already.

376 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:39:38am

re: #374 makeitstop

Yes, look at all these 'moonbats,' being 'shocked.' LGF comments are just crawling with shocked moonbats.

He said LGF moonbats ,,, ,where!?!?!?

377 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:40:46am

re: #375 Gus

I'm pretty sure that Stormfront and VNN will jump on this. Here's one already.

that doesn't implicate Killgore in the slightest. He's not a bigot and cannot be blamed if bigots fixate on a criminal's being Jewish.

378 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:41:46am

re: #377 Dark_Falcon

that doesn't implicate Killgore in the slightest. He's not a bigot and cannot be blamed if bigots fixate on a criminal's being Jewish.

So you're assuming that everything I am subsequently commenting on is about "Killgore Trout"?

379 makeitstop  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:42:21am

re: #376 sattv4u2

He said LGF moonbats ,,, ,where!?!?!?

Oh, here we go... nah, not taking the bait today. Happy New Year, Satt.

380 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:42:48am

WTF RWNJ Derp!

381 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:44:53am

I've got a job interview, BBL.

382 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:46:33am

re: #379 makeitstop

Oh, here we go... nah, not taking the bait today. Happy New Year, Satt.

"bait"
Chum the waters assigning something to someone that he didn't say, and I'm the one "bait"ing

heh

Happy New Year to you and yours also!!

383 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:49:30am

re: #381 Dark_Falcon

I've got a job interview, BBL.

Good luck!

384 Kronocide  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:49:48am

re: #382 sattv4u2

"bait"
Chum the waters assigning something to someone that he didn't say, and I'm the one "bait"ing

Why don't you ask KT what he meant instead of parsing around the periphery. I would but don't expect a response. You're Bottom Comment Buddies and all.

385 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:50:17am
386 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:52:12am

Gothamist doesn't mention the OWS activist connection. They call the them something else.

"Hippie" Couple Busted For Explosive Powder, "Terrorist Encyclopedia" In W. Village Apartment

387 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:54:34am
388 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:55:09am

Crime of the decade. //

389 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:58:26am

re: #381 Dark_Falcon

I've got a job interview, BBL.

GOOD LUCK!

390 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:58:53am

The GOP is going to crash and burn the economy, again, and the story of the morning is...
OWS.

391 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 9:59:38am

re: #390 Varek Raith

The GOP is going to crash and burn the economy, again, and the story of the morning is...
OWS.

Original Waffle Saloon? I jest but yeah.

392 Kronocide  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:00:32am

re: #386 NJDhockeyfan

Gothamist doesn't mention the OWS activist connection. They call the them something else.

"Hippie" Couple Busted For Explosive Powder, "Terrorist Encyclopedia" In W. Village Apartment

What OWS activist connection? Hm.... LGF comes up on a page of hits with RWNJ sites. Nice work Occupy LGF.

393 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:00:48am

re: #390 Varek Raith

The GOP is going to crash and burn the economy, again, and the story of the morning is...
OWS.

Well, duh. We have to focus on the important things, don'tcha know.

Who cares if the economy is on the verge of collapse? OWS is in the news again!

394 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:01:00am

I think I am going to make my Chocolate Duplex Oreo Cookie Trifle.

395 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:01:43am

Surprising the number of movies you can find on YouTube even with all the copyright claims knocking them down constantly. Here are a few good ones you don't see on TV all the time...

James and the Giant Peach

Bridge to Terabithia

Holes (2003)

396 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:01:50am
397 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:01:55am

re: #394 Vicious Babushka

I think I am going to make my Chocolate Duplex Oreo Cookie Trifle.

Oh man that looks good.

398 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:02:43am

re: #395 watching you tiny alien kittens are

James and the Giant Peach

Loved this movie. I've always been a Roald Dahl fan.

399 erik_t  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:03:15am

re: #390 Varek Raith

The GOP is going to crash and burn the economy, again, and the story of the morning is...
OWS.

It's the regularly-scheduled Distracting Morning Derp. Has it not always been so?

Meaningful adult conversations seem to happen exclusively after about 11am Pacific.

400 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:04:10am

re: #392 Kronocide

What OWS activist connection? Hm.... LGF comes up on a page of hits with RWNJ sites. Nice work Occupy LGF.

The very first link is to HuffPo. When did they become a RWNJ site?

401 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:04:20am

re: #395 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Surprising the number of movies you can find on YouTube even with all the copyright claims knocking them down constantly. Here are a few good ones you don't see on TV all the time...

James and the Giant Peach

Bridge to Terabithia

Holes (2003)

Holes was a good one. I remember really liking that book when I was in sixth grade.

402 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:04:47am

re: #393 Lidane

Well, duh. We have to focus on the important things, don'tcha know.

Who cares if the economy is on the verge of collapse? OWS is in the news again!

Over the years, I've learned to multi-task

(comes in handy in,,well,,, life!!!)

403 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:05:46am

re: #399 erik_t

It's the regularly-scheduled Distracting Morning Derp. Has it not always been so?

Meaningful adult conversations seem to happen exclusively after about 11am Pacific.

How DARE someone go OT after only 360 posts!!

haarruummpphh I say!!!

404 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:06:06am

I'll just say this regarding OWS. I went to an Occupy rally once last fall to see what all the fuss was about and it really was nothing more than your usual left wing stuff. It was also rainy and cold as hell that day.

405 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:06:10am

re: #402 sattv4u2

Over the years, I've learned to multi-task

(comes in handy in,,well,,, life!!!)

Except for the fact that none of the OWS outrage posters are, you know, multi tasking. All else is ignored.
But, you already knew that.
;)

406 Political Atheist  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:06:10am

Speaking of movies...

Going this afternoon to my favorite theater. Arclight. Decisions decisions. Skyfall, Life of Pi, or about 3 hours of Hobbits?

Really curious about the high frame rate and new Atmos 64 channel sound, so The Hobbit may be the choice. Tough call though.

407 Kid A  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:06:14am

Take a wild guess where this derp came from...

1.

Why do I feel this is just another stall tacit? I have become a real pessimist.

2.

Anybody want to take bets on her miraculous recovery once Benghazi is past?

3.

No doubt channeling Vince Foster ….

4.

Check the medical licenses of the docs attending to her. . .they are complicit in a coverup!!!

5.

It’s amazing how easily some here are captured by the devil that is liberalism. They see what has taken place in the last 5 years, and see nothing. The Arab spring did nothing but take down quasi allies, and replaced them with islamist that want our deaths. We see our embassies attacked and ambassador killed without raising a finger, no instead they ordered those that could help to STAND DOWN. Those two brave special forces men were killed by mortar fire when the over head drones were ordered to STAND DOWN even though the two were marking the targets with lasers. The lasers allowed the mortars to find them and they died. Treason? Stupidity? or politics? You liberals are all alike deaths mean nothing to you, no only your agenda.

Oh, for fuck's sake...

408 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:06:43am

re: #407 Kid A

Take a wild guess where this derp came from...

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

Oh, for fuck's sake...

OWS.

409 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:06:43am

re: #393 Lidane

Well, duh. We have to focus on the important things, don'tcha know.

Who cares if the economy is on the verge of collapse? OWS is in the news again!

He was an OWS organizer which means this really isn't an organized OWS incident. She's unaffiliated from what I read. According to a neighbor he wasn't friendly at all while she was pretty outgoing.

410 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:07:36am

re: #408 Varek Raith

OWS.

OWS is keeping the man down.

411 Kronocide  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:07:43am

re: #400 NJDhockeyfan

The very first link is to HuffPo. When did they become a RWNJ site?

Every other link is to a RWNJ site, and Huffpost cited a NY Post article that is unsourced. When did you ever have any intellectual honesty?

So again, where is the link between Aaron Greene and OWS, him being an 'organizer?' The only source I've seen is a bunch of echo chamber chatter.

412 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:07:45am
413 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:07:46am

re: #386 NJDhockeyfan

Gothamist doesn't mention the OWS activist connection. They call the them something else.

"Hippie" Couple Busted For Explosive Powder, "Terrorist Encyclopedia" In W. Village Apartment

A few new details...

Residents were roused by the police at around 7:30 a.m. on Saturday and relocated while police executed a search warrant. Gliedman, who is pregnant, is also charged with four counts of felony grand larceny for credit card theft that police say occurred in February of this year, and a warrant squad was making the arrest when they noticed "a white powdery substance" in a plastic container in the living room.

Looks like police just got lucky and stumbled across the explosives and weapons.

414 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:07:49am

re: #386 NJDhockeyfan

This so-called "OWS activist connection" comes from one place, the New York Post, and their source for it is anonymous.

But hey, that's enough to start ranting about OWS again, right?

No need to go read Breitbart.com or Dana Loesch's Twitter feed - you can get your OWS-bashing right here at LGF.

415 erik_t  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:08:05am

re: #403 sattv4u2

How DARE someone go OT after only 360 posts!!

haarruummpphh I say!!!

I'm totally in favor of an off-topic discussion on a topic that actually matters.

416 Kid A  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:08:46am

re: #408 Varek Raith

OWS.

Nah, The Dumbest Man on the Internet's site. I never get tired of reading what those idiots post.

417 sagehen  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:09:08am

re: #395 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Surprising the number of movies you can find on YouTube even with all the copyright claims knocking them down constantly. Here are a few good ones you don't see on TV all the time...

James and the Giant Peach

Bridge to Terabithia

Holes (2003)

Hulu has a lot of great movies... especially older stuff (the entire Criterion collection). Plus British and Israeli TV shows.

Last week I watched "Ultraviolet," this week I've been mainlining season 1 of Arrested Development (I want to finish before it expires later tonight, and season 2 goes online).

418 Achilles Tang  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:09:52am

All medical records of bloggers should also be made public, so we can determine if they are insane or on drugs.

419 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:09:57am

If only OWS had more guns!
Wait...
Wrong talking point.
/

420 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:11:00am

re: #413 Killgore Trout

Gothamist didn't mention the OWS connection because it's not confirmed. But don't let that stop you.

421 Kronocide  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:11:17am

re: #419 Varek Raith

If only OWS had more guns!
Wait...
Wrong talking point.
/

They are doing their part to resist the oppressive government. The 2nd Amendment allows homemade explosives powder.

422 makeitstop  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:11:48am

re: #414 Charles Johnson

This so-called "OWS activist connection" comes from one place, the New York Post, and their source for it is anonymous.

But hey, that's enough to start ranting about OWS again, right?

No need to go read Breitbart.com or Dana Loesch's Twitter feed - you can get your OWS-bashing right here at LGF.

OWS is an irrelevant movement, fully discredited - yet worthy of obsessive levels of scrutiny any time a new story pops up.

Isn't that kinda the same as how LGF is 'irrelevant,' yet RWNJs seem to hang on your every word?

423 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:13:01am
424 Kronocide  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:13:07am

re: #420 Charles Johnson

Gothamist didn't mention the OWS connection because it's not confirmed. But don't let that stop you.

But that's enough to imply mainstream media bias covering up the truth. LGF's own little Breitbart brigade, how quaint.

425 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:13:14am

re: #406 Political Atheist

Really curious about the high frame rate and new Atmos 64 channel sound, so The Hobbit may be the choice. Tough call though.

A lot of folks are saying that the high frame rate makes the movie "too sharp" and reveals things to be "plasticy and fake looking." I guess the complaint is that you lose the softer textures from 24 frames that helped to hide make-up and prop trickery. Don't know myself as I have yet to see it, just repeating what I have read elsewhere.

426 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:14:13am

Off to food shop. Quinoa pilaf is planned for dinner tonight, so I need a few ingredients and also to decide what the main entree' will be with it. Favoring salmon at this point.

House seems to be currently mainly stocked with chocolate and cookies at this point. My brother off-loaded a ton on me so that he wouldn't be tempted to eat them himself. ;P

427 Lidane  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:16:11am

Oh, I don't know. 2012 had its awful moments, but on the whole it was a good year.

428 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:16:25am

Greene had an extensive criminal record, by the way.

According to Gliedman's Facebook page, she attended The Dalton School, NYU's Gallatin School, and received an MFA in creative writing at the Art Institute of Chicago. The Post reports that Greene "attended Harvard as an undergraduate and did his graduate work at the university’s Kennedy School of Government" and has "five prior run-ins with the police, with the charges including, assault, and weapons possession."

429 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:16:54am

re: #428 Charles Johnson

Greene had an extensive criminal record, by the way.

Reminds me of this.

430 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:17:46am

re: #421 Kronocide

They are doing their part to resist the oppressive government. The 2nd Amendment allows homemade explosives powder.

Only if it is used to make ammo cartridges, duhh!

///

431 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:19:28am

re: #428 Charles Johnson

Greene had an extensive criminal record, by the way.

All those opportunities. What a waste.

432 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:19:40am

Tax compromise supposedly reached--Income above 450K reverts to Clinton rates.

[Link: bigstory.ap.org...]

433 Mattand  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:20:59am

re: #431 HappyWarrior

All those opportunities. What a waste.

Obviously he was corrupted by the evil criminal empire/terrorist organization known as OWS.

434 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:21:06am

re: #432 Decatur Deb

Tax compromise supposedly reached--Income above 450M reverts to Clinton rates.

[Link: bigstory.ap.org...]

450K not 450M. That's something though.

435 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:21:46am

re: #433 Mattand

Obviously he was corrupted by the evil criminal empire/terrorist organization known as OWS.

Just like I was. Oh wait a minute, I went to an OWS rally, still have no criminal record or desire to bomb shit.

436 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:21:49am

re: #434 HappyWarrior

450K not 450M. That's something though.

Thnx--fixing

437 Mattand  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:22:12am

re: #435 HappyWarrior

Just like I was. Oh wait a minute, I went to an OWS rally, still have no criminal record or desire to bomb shit.

SO FAR.

438 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:22:32am

re: #432 Decatur Deb

Tax compromise supposedly reached--Income above 450M reverts to Clinton rates.

[Link: bigstory.ap.org...]

450M?
So they are only going after the top 1/10th of the 1%?

/

439 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:23:03am

re: #437 Mattand

SO FAR.

Well do jagerbombs or Irish car bombs count? I kid- not really my drink of choice.

440 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:23:07am

re: #438 watching you tiny alien kittens are

450M?
So they are only going after the top 1/10th of the 1%?

/

.450M

441 Varek Raith  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:24:47am

Now that the facts have been pointed out, I expect NJ and KT to ignore them and just slink away from the discussion they started.
Typical.
XD

442 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:28:57am

re: #420 Charles Johnson

Gothamist didn't mention the OWS connection because it's not confirmed. But don't let that stop you.

The infuriating trait of OWS is that they lacked the cohesion and discipline to protect themselves from any nutcase or criminal shopping for a cause.

443 Mattand  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:29:01am

re: #441 Varek Raith

Now that the facts have been pointed out, I expect NJ and KT to ignore them and just slink away from the discussion they started.
Typical.
XD

All we need now are stories that Rachel Maddow doesn't write her own stuff and that Trayvon Martin had it coming, and we'll have a New Year's Eve trifecta.

444 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:29:30am

Every single right wing blog and news site is full of paranoid ranting about OWS today. The world's largest echo chamber.

I just searched quite a bit and I could find nothing online tying Aaron Greene to OWS except that anonymously sourced New York Post article.

445 Gus  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:31:29am

Shortly...

Now Streaming...
December 31, 2012 1:30 PM EST
President Obama Speaks on the Fiscal Cliff

[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]

446 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:31:30am

re: #444 Charles Johnson

Every single right wing blog and news site is full of paranoid ranting about OWS today. The world's largest echo chamber.

I just searched quite a bit and I could find nothing online tying Aaron Greene to OWS except that anonymously sourced New York Post article.

You might as well go ahead and add it to all the other "Outrageous Outrages of 2012"

447 bratwurst  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:33:10am

re: #444 Charles Johnson

I just searched quite a bit and I could find nothing online tying Aaron Greene to OWS except that anonymously sourced New York Post article.

Except for on LGF of course!

448 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:34:24am

re: #444 Charles Johnson

too bad they aren't talking about this:

FBI had info on plot to kill OWS protesters.

449 Charles Johnson  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:34:57am

I set Google's search dates back 3 years, up to two days ago, and found absolutely nothing referring to Aaron Greene in connection with OWS, as an organizer or anything else.

450 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:42:23am

We knew Pamela would eventually get around to blaming Teh Muzlimz!

451 stabby  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:51:18am

sorry for being so late to this party.

I noticed last week that the few commenters who said anything about Hillary over at PJ Media all said that she was faking because of Bangazi...

The stupidity was thicker than ever before as another opined that the Demoncrats are trying to take away our guns so that we will all be beaten up by union thugs like Crowder. We're all so doomed!

“Jim Treacher” (real name: Sean Medlock) at the Daily Caller a few days ago: Where’s Hillary Clinton’s Medical Report? | the Daily Caller.

Angry enough to post his name? I can see that.
I think this style they're promoting these days has anger as it's goal not honesty. They've convinced themselves that anger is an advantage, if they can keep people angry enough they'll win an election.

Deliberately lying to create anger in a political context is an odd echo of what the Islamists do - though I always thought their goal wasn't just power but keeping people angry enough for war, sectarian violence or even genocide, because Jihad.

Have our religious fanatics learned from their religious fanatics?

452 EmmaAnne  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 11:02:22am

re: #320 Lidane

Re: alleged George Washington quote about guns:
I'm pretty sure the term "guns" referred to cannons in George Washington's era, so I am extra-sceptical.

453 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 11:09:10am

re: #444 Charles Johnson

Every single right wing blog and news site is full of paranoid ranting about OWS today. The world's largest echo chamber.

I just searched quite a bit and I could find nothing online tying Aaron Greene to OWS except that anonymously sourced New York Post article.

So the Post just OWS-boated him and let the echo chamber take it from there. Volume implies that it is meaningful -- until you realize that *all* of them are sourcing from a single unconfirmed article. American journalism at its best!
//

454 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 11:12:06am

re: #451 stabby

sorry for being so late to this party.

I noticed last week that the few commenters who said anything about Hillary over at PJ Media all said that she was faking because of Bangazi...

The stupidity was thicker than ever before as another opined that the Demoncrats are trying to take away our guns so that we will all be beaten up by union thugs like Crowder. We're all so doomed!

Angry enough to post his name? I can see that.
I think this style they're promoting these days has anger as it's goal not honesty. They've convinced themselves that anger is an advantage, if they can keep people angry enough they'll win an election.

Deliberately lying to create anger in a political context is an odd echo of what the Islamists do - though I always thought their goal wasn't just power but keeping people angry enough for war, sectarian violence or even genocide, because Jihad.

Have our religious fanatics learned from their religious fanatics?

Nope. Politics of Fear go way back in history. Probably first page in the playbook of retaining power. Make the followers *fear* something else and keep that fear whipped up. That makes them more easy to control and point at desired targets while distracting from what you are doing on the side for enrichment of your person or sub-set of the tribe.

455 krypto  Mon, Dec 31, 2012 11:42:04am

Meanwhile, the annual Gallup poll on this topic has named Barack Obama as The Most Admired Man of 2012, and Hillary Clinton as The Most Admired Woman of 2012.

Obama was listed by 30% of those polled. Hillary Clinton was listed by 21% of those polled.

Barack Obama's closest competitor was Nelson Mandela at 3%. The Pope had only 2%.

The rightwing haters apparently aren't being very effective at spreading their hate.


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