1 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:22:17pm |
Prediction: Obama gets accused of rubbing it in even if he is gracious.
2 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:23:41pm |
re: #1 HappyWarrior
Prediction: Obama gets accused of rubbing it in even if he is gracious.
Quick, count the pronouns!
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3 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:23:59pm |
4 | Mattand Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:24:02pm |
We need a Jimmy Fallon show mic drop after he leaves the podium.
5 | makeitstop Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:24:11pm |
re: #1 HappyWarrior
Prediction: Obama gets accused of rubbing it in even if he is gracious.
Yeah, 'Spiking The Football' in 3...2...1...
6 | freetoken Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:25:01pm |
Hoyer is upset that the House looks like it is going to close business without voting on the "Sandy" bill.
7 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:25:15pm |
re: #5 makeitstop
Yeah, 'Spiking The Football' in 3...2...1...
Yep. You know it's coming. They did it when he announced Bin Laden even though they were also mad that OBL's body wasn't paraded through the streets to be desecrated.
8 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:26:04pm |
re: #1 HappyWarrior
Prediction: Obama gets accused of rubbing it in even if he is gracious.
Dictator Obama now speaking. Good thing the stock market is closed or it would be taking a dive now! #tcot #teaparty
— Barackolypse Now (@CzarZellem) January 2, 2013
Insanity.
9 | Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:26:25pm |
Let him rub it in--but he won't. He'll just get ready to roll them on the debt ceiling.
11 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:27:38pm |
re: #8 jaunte
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Insanity.
The first president to get 50% plus of the vote two times since Reagan is a dictator? To steal from a movie, you keep on using that word, I do not think you know what it means.
12 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:27:49pm |
Not sure if serious:
Sharia Law is Finally Here. #tcot #FiscalCliff— sixlocal (@sixlocal) January 2, 2013
13 | dragonath Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:28:02pm |
re: #10 Mich-again
JOE BIDEN CRACKED A SMILE!!! argghhhhhhh.
Biden always looks like he's on the verge on cracking a smile.
14 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:28:24pm |
re: #12 Lidane
Not sure if serious:
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Isn't that the damndest thing? That's how nuts the right has gotten.
15 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:28:47pm |
re: #14 HappyWarrior
Isn't that the damndest thing? That's how nuts the right has gotten.
King George III has just claimed victory! #tcot— ~Trea Irvine~ (@treairvine322) January 2, 2013
16 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:28:51pm |
re: #13 dragonath
Biden always looks like he's on the verge on cracking a smile.
I don't care what people said. I loved when he said HCR was a big fucking deal because it was a big fucking deal.
17 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:29:27pm |
Next ticket....Rubio and Rand Paul#tcot— Dawn (@noprezzie2012) January 2, 2013
19 | Mattand Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:30:09pm |
20 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:30:40pm |
re: #15 Lidane
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That's hilarious on two levels because it assumes that George III was an absolute monarch and it acts like Obama is a dictator. No idiots a majority of Congress voted for this bill. A majority. You may not like what they did but this is how representative democracy works. You may not like the end result but comparing it to dictatorship is insulting to people who actually suffer from dictatorships.
21 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:31:04pm |
All these tcot people bitching about federal government spending would really be surprised if their states suddenly had to get by on 1-to-1 federal tax dollars flowing back to their states.
22 | Interesting Times Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:31:05pm |
I just realized why I could not stay a conservative: the constant Chicken Little act is exhausting. The 50th falling sky was my limit.— Lynn Beisner (@LynnBeisner) January 2, 2013
24 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:31:26pm |
re: #17 Lidane
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Yeah two first term Senators who are only really popular with right wing nuts. There's a way to make the past two elections look competitive for the GOP.
25 | The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:33:13pm |
re: #23 dragonath
3:-]
That's supposed to be Biden, dammit.
Looks more like someone is trying to teabag a happy robot.
27 | b_sharp Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:34:31pm |
re: #25 The Ghost of a Flea
Looks more like someone is trying to teabag a smiling robot.
Hey, where was the NSFD warning?
I just snorted eggnog.
28 | Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:34:32pm |
re: #25 The Ghost of a Flea
Looks more like someone is trying to teabag a happy robot.
That would violate 1 commandment and 3 OSHA standards.
29 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:34:33pm |
Obama ALREADY talking about raising taxes even further on job creators and corporations. Sheesh.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) January 2, 2013
30 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:35:26pm |
re: #25 The Ghost of a Flea
Looks more like someone is trying to teabag a smiling robot.
You made me spill the champagne.
31 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:35:32pm |
re: #29 Kragar
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Because multimillion dollar corporations are the only job creators, Bryan. Fuck this idiot. He makes Pat Robertson look somewhat intellectual.
32 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:36:05pm |
*sigh*
@rainbird352 You also! Freedom isn't free at all, that it comes with the highest of costs. The cost of blood. #TCOT #2ndAmendment— MinuteMan1776 (@MinuteMan1776) January 2, 2013
There are fewer drama queens on RuPaul's Drag Race than on #tcot. WTF.
33 | Mattand Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:36:22pm |
re: #29 Kragar
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I'm gonna channel my inner Rachel Maddow and declare that at this point, Bryan Fischer is actually a performance artist portraying a delusional born-again preacher.
34 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:37:12pm |
35 | Varek Raith Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:37:22pm |
36 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:37:30pm |
Yeah we're fucked if have tax rates on the very wealthy like we did in one of the most prosperous times in memory. Seriously conservatives? This isn't Obama proposing we return to Eisenhower or even Nixon era level tax rates. This is Obama proposing we return to Clinton era levels. And if you think that is so tyrannical, maybe you should move to a country that doesn't tax at all and live in anarchy like the morons you are. Because hey if government sucks so bad. Let's get rid of the police, military, roads, schools, etc. Let's just have no taxes because no taxes works in right wing la la la land.
37 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:38:30pm |
38 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:38:30pm |
.@airwolf1967 Tea Party better find another party to deal with because I REFUSE to vote #GOP ever again. #tcot— Mike Behrens (@Mike_Behrens) January 2, 2013
39 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:39:15pm |
And this is why we should all laugh when we liberals are told that we're the ones prone to hysteria and hyperbole.
40 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:39:39pm |
re: #32 Lidane
MinuteMan 1776: 30+ yr. US Army Vet (MAJ), #CONSERVATIVE, #NRA, #TU, #Catholic; #Oathkeeper.
Heart-attack risk: high.
41 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:40:06pm |
42 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:40:07pm |
Another reasonable right winger:
#TreasonousActs: @barackobama needs to be impeached, convicted and then hanged for treason!!#TCOT— Tom O'Halloran (@TPO_Hisself) January 2, 2013
44 | makeitstop Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:40:49pm |
45 | Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:40:49pm |
46 | dragonath Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:40:50pm |
re: #25 The Ghost of a Flea
Looks more like someone is trying to teabag a smiling robot.
Teabagging robots... hey, I thought Romney lost.
48 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:41:34pm |
re: #42 Lidane
Another reasonable right winger:
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Impeached? For a bunch of people who claim they understand and read the Constitution. They clearly missed the part where the president is to be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors. Nowhere does it say, we impeach him because he implements a policy we dislike because it hurts a bunch of greedy asshole's feelings.
49 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:41:42pm |
re: #42 Lidane
Another reasonable right winger:
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The lack of evidence IS THE EVIDENCE!
50 | Mattand Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:41:48pm |
re: #42 Lidane
Another reasonable right winger:
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I so want to forward this to the Secret Service.
51 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:42:22pm |
re: #44 makeitstop
Hahaha. Where they gonna go?
The Libertarians of course. Duh. Or the Constitution Party.
You know, because those parties have been so successful in the past.
52 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:43:07pm |
Time for a MASSIVE voter purge from the GOP. Register as Independent ASAP. #tcot #ccot #war #lnyhbt #teaparty @drudge_report @theblaze— ABOwarrior (@ABOwarrior) January 2, 2013
53 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:43:30pm |
re: #42 Lidane
Another reasonable right winger:
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He forgot the drawing and quartering, and the comfy chair.
54 | Varek Raith Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:43:50pm |
re: #42 Lidane
Another reasonable right winger:
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Sedition.
I can play to, nutters!
55 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:44:00pm |
Boehner: "Now the focus turns to spending." That's exactly what Obama said.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) January 2, 2013
Obviously this means Obama has hollowed out Boehner, laid his eggs in his skull, and created another thrall. Its the only logical answer given the evidence at hand.
56 | Mattand Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:44:36pm |
re: #52 Lidane
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Yeah, you guys quitting the party isn't a purge. It's taking your ball and going home.
57 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:45:30pm |
ELEVENTY!
You can kiss your guns and high capacity magazines goodbye now. If the GOP ca Ed on the #FiscalCliff they'll do the same with the guns #tcot— David Bozick (@DBozick) January 2, 2013
58 | Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:46:23pm |
re: #55 Kragar
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Obviously this means Obama has hollowed out Boehner, laid his eggs in his skull, and created another thrall. Its the only logical answer given the evidence at hand.
Nah--simple case of demoncratic possession.
59 | Varek Raith Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:46:23pm |
WTF.
Weren't liberals supposed to be the ones ruled by emotion?!?!
;)
62 | Mich-again Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:46:45pm |
In this video, Obama is Foghorn Leghorn and the Tea Party House is George P. Dog..
64 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:47:29pm |
re: #59 Varek Raith
WTF.
Weren't liberals supposed to be the ones ruled by emotion?!?!
;)
I know. Why aren't we being hysterical! Oh wait we're not attending this year's CPAC.
65 | makeitstop Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:47:34pm |
So... Where does everyone think we stand re Boehner vs. Cantor?
Is Orange Man safe in his Speaker gig, or is Cantor gonna take it?
66 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:47:38pm |
re: #59 Varek Raith
WTF.
Weren't liberals supposed to be the ones ruled by emotion?!?!
;)
And the GOP is good with people...
67 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:47:40pm |
re: #52 Lidane
@abowarrior Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!I'll be glad to see the back of you. #tcot
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) January 2, 2013
68 | b_sharp Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:47:49pm |
re: #59 Varek Raith
WTF.
Weren't liberals supposed to be the ones ruled by emotion?!?!
;)
Yup.
I guess having empathy is being emotional but jumping up and down screaming like a mad chimp is being cool and collected.
69 | Mattand Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:48:32pm |
re: #53 jaunte
He forgot the drawing and quartering, and the comfy chair.
Anger, pettiness, and delusion are two.. THREE! Three of our chief weapons!
71 | dragonath Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:48:48pm |
re: #65 makeitstop
So... Where does everyone think we stand re Boehner vs. Cantor?
Is Orange Man safe in his Speaker gig, or is Cantor gonna take it?
I think the only major spending legislation that passed this congress was with Democratic votes.
lol
72 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:49:32pm |
Maybe this is the year Virginia bucks its trend and elects a governor from the same party as the president. *Fingers crossed* Cuccinnelli may be even more off his nut than Cantor.
73 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:49:48pm |
74 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:50:29pm |
The Texas Republicans in Congress who voted for the #fiscalcliff legislation: bit.ly/UkOJqD— Texas Tribune (@TexasTribune) January 2, 2013
The fiscal cliff bill has passed the U.S. House with the support of four Texas Republicans: U.S. Reps. Pete Sessions of Dallas, Kevin Brady of Conroe, Mac Thornberry of Wichita Falls and Lamar Smith of San Antonio. Rep. Ron Paul of Lake Jackson was the lone member of the Texas delegation who did not vote; all Texas Democrats in Congress voted for the measure.
75 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:50:56pm |
re: #62 Mich-again
In this video, Obama is Foghorn Leghorn and the Tea Party House is George P. Dog..
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And in this video, Obama is Bugs and the entire RWNJ noise machine is Sam:
77 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:52:30pm |
Thus ends the Paul Ryan 2016 Presidential Exploratory Committee.— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) January 2, 2013
78 | Alexzander Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:53:42pm |
re: #77 Kragar
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Wow. Erick Erickson has really made the lives of Republican presidential candidates difficult. Love it.
79 | Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:54:24pm |
Nate Silver would never say that the Dems have a chance at the House in 2014, but there is a little trace of blood in the water.
80 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:54:52pm |
re: #77 Kragar
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Who will be next to break Erick's achy breaky heart? They want so badly for some perfect conservative to come in on a white horse and save them. That shit ain't happening.
81 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:55:20pm |
Somewhere in Iowa during a 2016 debate: Marco Rubio "I've never voted to raise taxes," he said looking at Paul Ryan.— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) January 2, 2013
82 | wilburs Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:55:53pm |
re: #80 HappyWarrior
Who will be next to break Erick's achy breaky heart? They want so badly for some perfect conservative to come in on a white horse and save them. That shit ain't happening them.
and he doesn't have the stones to do it himself
he'd rather take potshots
83 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:56:15pm |
re: #82 wilburs
and he doesn't have the stones to do it himself
he'd rather take potshots
He asked God, God said no.
84 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:56:32pm |
re: #79 Decatur Deb
Nate Silver would never say that the Dems have a chance at the House in 2014, but there is a little trace of blood in the water.
It would be something. I don't think a party in power has ever taken the House back during a midterm election. I know it's happened during a presidential election. Who knows though. And I see now that my Congressman voted against it. Somewhat shocked since while Wolf is right wing, he's capable sometimes of being reasonable.
85 | wilburs Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:56:57pm |
86 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:57:20pm |
re: #82 wilburs
and he doesn't have the stones to do it himself
he'd rather take potshots
Yeah he chickened out of his proposed run against Saxby Chambliss probably because it would mean actually being held accountable for once instead of just being a a chicken shit who runs a circle jerk.
87 | Interesting Times Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:57:42pm |
By the way, the stupid, evil, worse-than-useless GOP house also did this:
And now that John Boehner has stopped any chance of Sandy aid for the north east I say fuck you to this shitty GOP led disaster of a House— Jesse LaGreca (@JesseLaGreca) January 2, 2013
88 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:58:02pm |
Breitbart: Enough Republicans Willing To Unseat Speaker Boehner: From Breitbart:American Majority Action ... bit.ly/Z9KYsN #tcot— Steve Foley (@stevenfoley) January 2, 2013
89 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:58:28pm |
re: #86 HappyWarrior
Yeah he chickened out of his proposed run against Saxby Chambliss probably because it would mean actually being held accountable for once instead of just being a a chicken shit who runs a circle jerk.
Not sure, but I think PETA might get involved with that.
90 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:58:31pm |
re: #87 Interesting Times
By the way, the stupid, evil, worse-than-useless GOP house also did this:
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Hey you wanted a GOP majority in the House in 2010 and this is what you got. Classic be careful what ya wish for.
91 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:59:26pm |
re: #88 Lidane
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Speaker Cantor. Yeah that will be fun. Cantor's going to be exposed as an empty suit who knows only how to second guess.
92 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:59:30pm |
re: #87 Interesting Times
Speaker John Boehner’s office referred a question on #Sandy vote to Majority Leader Eric Cantor (@jonathantamari)
— Weed Dude (@weeddude) January 2, 2013
94 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:59:42pm |
A lot of anger out there. Put it to good use and Primary out the @gop unprincipled Congressmen in 2014. Slam dunk. #tcot— Sullivan's Projects (@Sullivans_Projs) January 2, 2013
95 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:59:50pm |
From 7hrs ago: "@dougheye: Majority Leader Cantor stands with @speakerboehner. Speculation otherwise is silly, non-productive and untrue."— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) January 2, 2013
96 | Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Jan 1, 2013 8:59:54pm |
Well Obama's re-election did have the expected effect of finally pushing people to call for murdering him outright... Or maybe that's been going on all along, and I just haven't noticed.
These people would be a laugh if they weren't so damned serious. Every week it's ZOMG THE WORST THING EVER, STARRING THE N-WORD PRESIDENT!!11. We should be at the apocalypse any minute now, if the right-wing predictions of doom and horror hold.
97 | freetoken Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:00:05pm |
re: #87 Interesting Times
Many are still talking in the house.
The acting speaker just adjourned the House even though the "No" vote was in majority, because the Sandy legislation is still held up.
That's because the GOP House leadership are in serious butthurt tonight, and they want to punish the Blue States, is all I've got.
98 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:01:03pm |
re: #97 freetoken
Many are still talking in the house.
The acting speaker just adjourned the House even though the "No" vote was in majority, because the Sandy legislation is still held up.
That's because the GOP House leadership are in serious butthurt tonight, and they want to punish the Blue States, is all I've got.
Pretty pathetic because both Cantor and Boehner come from could be called blue states.
99 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:01:06pm |
re: #97 freetoken
That's because the GOP House leadership are in serious butthurt tonight, and they want to punish the Blue States, is all I've got.
I eagerly await the reaction from that liberal Chris Christie to his state's federal relief being held up by the GOP.
100 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:01:34pm |
[Link: xkcd.com...]
101 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:01:42pm |
Then they turn into werewolves. RT @thematthewkeys: House officially adjourns for the day with one minute left to go before midnight.— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) January 2, 2013
102 | SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:01:50pm |
Freep is pretty freep right now
To: SeekAndFind
FU John Boner!
3 posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2013 10:10:03 PM by Clint N. Suhks
104 | Interesting Times Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:02:26pm |
We cannot leave here doing nothing. That would be a disgrace. #Sandy— Nancy Pelosi (@NancyPelosi) January 2, 2013
105 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:03:05pm |
There's got to be a way House GOP could look worse tonight. Could they maybe cancel hurricane relief for Hispanics only?
— Molly Ball (@mollyesque) January 2, 2013
106 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:03:08pm |
If this is how the base is reaction without a clear "next in line." Maybe 2016 is the year that they finally get their true conservative and get their asses truly kicked at the polls. I'm not talking about McCain 2008 because that clearly wasn't enough and nor was Romney 2012. No, they need a beat down in the mold of Goldwater 64 or McGovern 72. Something that finally convinces them that they're not losing because they're insufficiently conservative. I don't think that will happen because enough people blindly vote Republican to give Republican candidates at least 45% of the vote in presidential elections.
107 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:03:42pm |
re: #104 Interesting Times
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I agree. The people of NY and NJ deserve better than that.
108 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:04:07pm |
109 | SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:04:18pm |
muwahaha
To: SeekAndFind
Paul Ryan voted for it—he is dead to me now.All the “ayes” are to be PURGED in the primaries!
15 posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2013 10:15:41 PM by Happy Rain ("Outlawing guns because of Adam Lanza would be like outlawing free speech because of Bill Maher.")
110 | freetoken Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:04:58pm |
re: #105 jaunte
The last person to speak was Republican Bilbray from here in San Diego, who lost in the last election by a very close margin but it was still a small upset.
Anyway, he ranted about illegal aliens, even though everyone else (including the other Republicans) were lamenting on not voting on the Sandy bill.
111 | Alexzander Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:05:06pm |
re: #106 HappyWarrior
If this is how the base is reaction without a clear "next in line." Maybe 2016 is the year that they finally get their true conservative and get their asses truly kicked at the polls. I'm not talking about McCain 2008 because that clearly wasn't enough and nor was Romney 2012. No, they need a beat down in the mold of Goldwater 64 or McGovern 72. Something that finally convinces them that they're not losing because they're insufficiently conservative. I don't think that will happen because enough people blindly vote Republican to give Republican candidates at least 45% of the vote in presidential elections.
I think Rand Paul is the man to really test and sink their 'true conservative' dream. Now that Paul Ryan is out of the running for 2016 (according to EE), things are looking goo for RP.
113 | freetoken Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:05:32pm |
114 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:06:04pm |
We're going to see some of the same madness we've seen with Senate candidates in the past two terms but with the House. And the thing is, they may get their wish. Congressional primaries are low turnout. So, I totally expect to see some high profile YES's to get primaried.
115 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:06:39pm |
re: #113 freetoken
Gay Hispanic Muslim Athiests on Welfare.
Female Gay Hispanic Muslim Atheist on Welfare with a long term disability.
116 | freetoken Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:06:45pm |
Gay Illegal Alien Hispanic Muslim Atheists on Food Stamps.
That's what's ailing America.
117 | SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:07:00pm |
re: #112 jaunte
the tears are delicious. 2013 is looking good so far.
118 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:07:04pm |
re: #111 Alexzander
I think Rand Paul is the man to really test and sink their 'true conservative' dream. Now that Paul Ryan is out of the running for 2016 (according to EE), things are looking goo for RP.
Yeah I think Rand would do it. Though some of the hawks would bitch that he wasn't "conservative" enough on defense. I know a lot of right wing nuts who think the Paul father and son duo are liberals because they're not hawks on war.
119 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:07:33pm |
re: #115 Kragar
Female Gay Hispanic Muslim Atheist on Welfare with a long term disability.
You forgot "non gun owning".
121 | Mich-again Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:08:40pm |
And for their next trick the GOP/Tea Party conjoined twins will be surgically separated even though they share a single brain.
122 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:09:13pm |
123 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:10:20pm |
The dereliction of duty by House failing to take up Sandy aid just did more damage to GOP brand than any fallout from fiscal cliff. Ugly.
— Robert A George (@RobGeorge) January 2, 2013
Party of social irresponsibility.
124 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:10:34pm |
re: #121 Mich-again
And for their next trick the GOP/Tea Party conjoined twins will be surgically separated even though they share a single brain.
Yea, the TP can split off -- and then get their funding cut as they wither up and blow away. Astroturf and have no real roots to live on.
125 | Mich-again Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:11:18pm |
re: #120 jaunte
Palin/Paul 2016
I like it.. A political marriage with vows, the hokey pokey, a buffet, and a bouquet toss..
126 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:11:18pm |
Hahahaha:
Michelle Bachmann WILL SOCK IT TO Obama! She'll be a No-Nonsense SPEAKER! #GOP Willing to Unseat Speaker Boehner shar.es/hL28b #tcot— Marble (@Marble300) January 2, 2013
127 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:12:01pm |
re: #124 Feline Fearless Leader
Yea, the TP can split off -- and then get their funding cut as they wither up and blow away. Astroturf and have no real roots to live on.
Dick Armey will go door to door with an armed guard to collect.
128 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:12:18pm |
.@grovernorquist That spin was dizzying. Also, who gave you control of Congress? Were you elected? Appointed? You have NO power! #p2 #tcot— Steve (@shortcomment) January 2, 2013
129 | wilburs Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:12:31pm |
Classic
Vermont police cited a Massachusetts man for DUI after he allegedly drove onto the front lawn of the birthplace of the co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous in Vermont on Christmas Eve.
[Link: www.chillicothegazette.com...]
130 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:12:57pm |
131 | Mich-again Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:13:55pm |
re: #126 Lidane
Oh geeze, Michelle Bachmann makes Rick Perry look like an intellectual.
132 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:13:57pm |
re: #126 Lidane
Hahahaha:
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I think I'd pay to see Bachmann be Speaker since I think she would easily be the worst Speaker in history because she knows nothing about leadership. Cantor's a hack but at least he understands leadership. Don't use it but he knows what it is. Bachmann is just a right wing hack. Plus, you know if she did take a more prominent role in the leadership, the Dems Congressional Commtitee would probably be able to raise enough money to recruit a very viable candidate to run against her.
134 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:14:55pm |
@darrellissa ...thanks for your stand...you should be Speaker of the House!! #FireBoehner #tcot #weneedprinciples— Jane (@jusjane6060) January 2, 2013
135 | Decatur Deb Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:15:17pm |
136 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:15:35pm |
re: #131 Mich-again
Oh geeze, Michelle Bachmann makes Rick Perry look like an intellectual.
"The GOP will act like the Maginot Line, defending America from Obama's tyranny!"
137 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:15:44pm |
re: #128 Lidane
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Now they hate him. Totally expect the crazies who believe he's a Muslim Brotherhood member to come out of the woodworks now that he's on record of supporting the deal. And then I'll have the strange feeling of feeling some sympathy for Grover Norquist.
138 | wilburs Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:16:07pm |
Republicans should just make Pelosi leader, then they can sit back and vote no on everything, since that seems to make them happy
139 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:18:58pm |
re: #138 wilburs
Republicans should just make Pelosi leader, then they can sit back and vote no on everything, since that seems to make them happy
Or have enough them resign their seats and the Dems be the majority party again. So they can accuse Obama and the Democratic Congress of "shoving legislation down our throats." Because working for a health care reform law is the same as nonsensical attempts to repeal Obamacare while the signer of said legislation is still president and had recently successfully defended said legislation's constitutionality before the USSC.
140 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:21:36pm |
Just because this never gets old:
Once Romney gains a lead from the convention, I don't think he's going to relinquish it. #RomneyRyan2012— Dick Morris (@DickMorrisTweet) August 27, 2012
141 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:22:12pm |
Greatest hits of 2012. Paulians need to tune in to CNN right now to watch Ron Paul being delusional about his chances to win the GOP nomination.
142 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:22:30pm |
re: #140 Kragar
Just because this never gets old:
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I wonder what bits of wisdom Dick has for us tonight? Probably little. Poor guy's probably having a nasty footover.
143 | wilburs Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:22:55pm |
re: #140 Kragar
Just because this never gets old:
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Nor does this:
It’s very hard not to look at the recent polls and think that the odds are very high I’m going to be the nominee. Newt
144 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:23:23pm |
Hahaha:
#GOP @speakerboehner Why you Bent Over For Obama is Beyond Me. Speaker of the House should Bending over for us. #tcot— James Czerwonky (@jamescistheman) January 2, 2013
145 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:23:44pm |
re: #142 HappyWarrior
Nothing on his timeline for the last 14 hours.
147 | Interesting Times Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:23:59pm |
That's one rancid, toxic orange:
A leadership aide tells @seungminkim that "Speaker Boehner made the decision not to proceed this Congress" on #Sandy aid.— Weed Dude (@weeddude) January 2, 2013
148 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:24:00pm |
re: #140 Kragar
Just because this never gets old:
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A+ prediction skillz. Gotta love it.
149 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:24:27pm |
I'm sure you could find some tweets of right wing hacks predicting a landslide Romney victory too. Those were fun. Especially unskewed polls guy who made his prediction closer as it became more and more apparent that Romney not only wasn't going to win in a landslide but wasn't going to win period.
150 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:25:04pm |
Bet a lot of Republicans would've preferred a deal that was $10 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax increases.
— Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) January 2, 2013
151 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:25:14pm |
152 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:25:53pm |
I told you all a long time ago it was #Rubio for 2016. #PaulRyan will be the Speaker, not President. Tonight proved it. #tcot #FiscalCliff— Mitchell Carter (@theycallMEFogel) January 2, 2013
153 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:26:01pm |
re: #150 jaunte
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Idiots should have taken that when they had the chance. Obama's a skilled politician but man his opponents are such idiots.
154 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:27:15pm |
re: #152 Lidane
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Yeah until Rubio votes liberally on something involving immigration and he becomes a traitor too in the casual comedy.
155 | Mich-again Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:27:32pm |
I think it would be really funny if Twitter pulled the plug on #tcot just because..
156 | wilburs Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:27:49pm |
The senate better change the filibuster rules, and Obama better start getting some judges nominated and confirmed, or much of his impact will be for naught
157 | wilburs Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:29:31pm |
158 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:29:36pm |
re: #136 Kragar
"The GOP will act like the Maginot Line, defending America from Obama's tyranny!"
Which Democrat gets to be Gen. von Manstein in that analogy?
159 | The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:29:41pm |
re: #144 Lidane
Hahaha:
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NB: Do Not Bend Over Anywhere Near This Person.
His entire understanding of politics is just a prison movie shower scene on repeat. And not the "good" Cinemax ladies' prison movie, either.
160 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:30:28pm |
Rep. Peter King tells CNN that Sandy no vote is "indefensible" for Congress. "It is disgraceful. It even makes it worse being a Republican."— Dan Merica (@danmericaCNN) January 2, 2013
161 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:31:40pm |
re: #160 Lidane
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Heh what does he mean even Has he not paid attention at all to what his party does in the wake of disasters? I won't be too hard on him though since he's got every right to be pissed as fuck at the leadership.
162 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:32:16pm |
re: #144 Lidane
James Czerwonky
@jamescisthemanGod, Family, Football, prison shower fantasies & fighting in that order. I support #Israel. If you don't then don't follow me #Revolution2013 #tcot #p2 #RedNationRIsing WE FIGHT!!!
163 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:33:17pm |
164 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:34:09pm |
re: #155 Mich-again
I think it would be really funny if Twitter pulled the plug on #tcot just because..
But then we would be deprived of derp like this:
These two leftist fuckers have got to go #tcot twitter.com/sixonesixband/...For 2016, I'm flexible. Palin/West or West/Palin. I could go either way. #tcot— KJack (@DrKC4) January 2, 2013
— Six (@sixonesixband) January 2, 2013
165 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:34:54pm |
Rep. Peter King tells CNN that Sandy no vote is "indefensible" for Congress. "It is disgraceful. It even makes it worse being a Republican."
— Dan Merica (@danmericaCNN) January 2, 2013
When Peter King is your voice of reason, its gotten weird.
166 | makeitstop Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:35:11pm |
Do Republicans realize what they've done here? They've totally alienated the TPNJs and made themselves look like idiots with zero compassion by bailing on the Sandy aid vote.
In the optics war, they just shot themselves in the face with a howitzer. Well played, morans.
167 | SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:35:29pm |
re: #164 Lidane
i think i may have found my new least favorite person
168 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:35:54pm |
re: #166 makeitstop
Do Republicans realize what they've done here? They've totally alienated the TPNJs and made themselves look like idiots with zero compassion by bailing on the Sandy aid vote.
In the optics war, they just shot themselves in the face with a howitzer. Well played, morans.
Picked their nose with a fucking knife.
169 | Mich-again Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:36:06pm |
That cracking sound is the GOP splitting in two. Which is not necessarily a reason for the Dems to celebrate. The left half of the old GOP, now unshackled from the RWNJ contingency, can now compete for centrist voters. The eventual losers will be the far left and the far right.
170 | The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:36:35pm |
re: #165 jaunte
When Peter King is your voice of reason, its gotten weird.
As weird as waking up in a Phuket flophouse handcuffed to a suitcase full of panda meat.
171 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:37:35pm |
Hahaha. Oh man. The next GOP primaries will be hilarious:
For 2016, I'm flexible. Palin/West or West/Palin. I could go either way. #tcot— KJack (@DrKC4) January 2, 2013
174 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:39:02pm |
re: #171 Lidane
Hahaha. Oh man. The next GOP primaries will be hilarious:
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It's going to be great because for the first time in a while, there's really no one who is really next in line. The establishment will have a favorite, sure, but someone like Santorum, Palin, Paul, or whoever could actually make a serious run.
175 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:39:19pm |
re: #171 Lidane
Hahaha. Oh man. The next GOP primaries will be hilarious:
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Limbaugh/Hannity '16
176 | The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:39:26pm |
177 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:39:44pm |
178 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:39:47pm |
re: #171 Lidane
Either is sure to be landslide victory for ... the Democrats. There's some sharp thinking there, Kojack.
179 | The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:41:19pm |
re: #175 Kragar
Limbaugh/Hannity '16
...and the third part of the wingnut Human Centipede will be...all of America!
180 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:41:27pm |
Eventually we will have another Republican president but it will be someone who the nuts hate. So even when they win, they'll lose. In that way, they kind of remind me of the lefties I know who are never happy with Obama even though he's an improvement over Bush.
181 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:46:13pm |
#schadenfreude RT @michellemalkin: Paul Ryan says the 41-to-1 tax hikes to spending cuts crapwich "reflects conservative values." Stop it.— Imani ABL (@AngryBlackLady) January 2, 2013
182 | jaunte Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:46:31pm |
If we paid more taxes and all the JOBS the infra structure demands, the economy would grow, as in Clinton's higher tax days= economy soared.
— Holland Taylor (@HollandTaylor) January 2, 2013
@ruthico @hollandtaylor And in fact, relative to most other developed world countries, you folks in the US pay a lot lower taxes.
— GK Schick (@hughjarse5) January 2, 2013
183 | TedStriker Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:47:30pm |
re: #86 HappyWarrior
Yeah he chickened out of his proposed run against Saxby Chambliss probably because it would mean actually being held accountable for once instead of just being a a chicken shit who runs a circle jerk.
And he'd take a huge pay cut.
184 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:48:13pm |
Did anyone explain to the asswads in congress that "Sandy relief" is *not* a euphemism for tax payer funded abortion.— Lizz Winstead (@lizzwinstead) January 2, 2013
185 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:48:58pm |
re: #182 jaunte
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186 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:50:20pm |
re: #182 jaunte
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The latter tweeter gets it. Really, Obama's proposing that the wealthiest 1 percent pay the same amount as they did in the Clinton years which was 39.6%. Idiotic wingnuts acting like this is the end of the country as we know it are so ignorant of how relatively little taxes we pay. Of course, they'll also bitch at the state of our schools, roads, and health care but then when it's pointed out that taxes may have to go up, they flip their shit.
187 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:50:59pm |
We've been electing the people who slept through civics class rather than the kid who actually paid attention.
188 | Mich-again Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:53:34pm |
re: #173 SpaceJesus
number of missing chromosomes?
I don't find a lynyrd skynyrd type rock band named six one six anywhere, but there is a McMansion near Nashville with the address 616 Band. I bet that loser is a rich kid living in the basement.
189 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:54:00pm |
“There will always be dissident voices heard in the land, expressing opposition without alternatives, finding faults but never favor, perceiving gloom on every side and seeking influence without responsibility."
JFK was supposed to say this in the speech he would have given in Dallas the day he was assassinated. It's as true nearly 50 years later as it was in 1963.
190 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:55:13pm |
Brain image study: Fructose may spur overeating
For the study, scientists used magnetic resonance imaging, or MRI, scans to track blood flow in the brain in 20 young, normal-weight people before and after they had drinks containing glucose or fructose in two sessions several weeks apart.
Scans showed that drinking glucose "turns off or suppresses the activity of areas of the brain that are critical for reward and desire for food," said one study leader, Yale University endocrinologist Dr. Robert Sherwin. With fructose, "we don't see those changes," he said. "As a result, the desire to eat continues — it isn't turned off."
What's convincing, said Dr. Jonathan Purnell, an endocrinologist at Oregon Health & Science University, is that the imaging results mirrored how hungry the people said they felt, as well as what earlier studies found in animals.
"It implies that fructose, at least with regards to promoting food intake and weight gain, is a bad actor compared to glucose," said Purnell. He wrote a commentary that appears with the federally funded study in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association.
191 | Mich-again Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:55:51pm |
re: #189 HappyWarrior
“There will always be dissident voices heard in the land, expressing opposition without alternatives, finding faults but never favor, perceiving gloom on every side and seeking influence without responsibility."
JFK was supposed to say this in the speech he would have given in Dallas the day he was assassinated. It's as true nearly 50 years later as it was in 1963.
If so, he was borrowing from the Penalty of Leadership ad from 1915..
192 | freetoken Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:56:05pm |
CJR interview Tyson:
[...]
Q: But you’ve criticized Fox’s Bill O’Reilly for using the motion of the tides to prove the existence of God, and debated former GM vice chairman Bob Lutz, a climate skeptic, on national television.
I was called to those tasks. It was Stephen Colbert’s initiative to push back on O’Reilly, and since I’m an easy date for him—my office is not far from his studios—he called me in to do a kind of half-rehearsed skit, which was very funny, about who’s in charge of the tides. If astrophysicists can fully explain the tides, are they in charge? Or is God in charge? The same is true with climate change. I was invited to appear on Real Time with Bill Maher.
It doesn’t mean I don’t have opinions on these matters, it’s just that I’m not going to initiate it. But we need others to do it, so if I fail in getting people to think straight in the first place, then I hand them over to others. The mantle that had previously been occupied by Carl now has several people, including Michael Schermer, the editor of Skeptic magazine, and Phil Plait, colloquially known as the “Bad Astronomer” because he writes a blog [which moved from Discover to Slate in November] on correcting bad astronomy in movies, on websites, and in the rumor mill.
Q: Do you think the anti-intellectualism exhibited by O’Reilly is a problem in the media?
The media are not as egregious as the general public. It’s true, however, that guys like Larry King, who’s now retired, have given quite a bit of passage for people who have made careers pedaling pseudoscience. Especially, perhaps, with those who claim that they can speak to the dead, King took this sort of dispassionate view: ‘I’m just the interviewer here and people are coming in and making these claims, and you evaluate.’ Well, okay, but somebody decided to give these people a seat on your show. You can’t claim an absence of responsibility. If you’re a journalist, then you’ve got find out: Is this person speaking truth? What’s the evidence in support of it? Your neutrality is not “everything is equal.” Your neutrality is: I’m going to ask hard questions, no matter who it is, and if they crumble under the line of questioning, that’s because they had a house of cards to begin with. If journalism doesn’t bring that out, it’s bad for society, because you only have a strong democracy if those who vote people into office are informed and have the capacity to think intelligently about topics and issues—especially in the 21st century, with so many science issues in front of us that require informed judgment and informed leadership. The news media are a fundamental player in this. You can’t say you’re not in the position of power to shape that dialogue, because you are.
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Noticed how smoothly he changes the topic from Bill O. to Larry King and the general populace.
193 | freetoken Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:56:59pm |
re: #190 Kragar
Probably relates to evolutionary developments in reaction to the existence of seasons and the dominant fruit production later in the year.
194 | TedStriker Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:58:05pm |
re: #142 HappyWarrior
I wonder what bits of wisdom Dick has for us tonight? Probably little. Poor guy's probably having a nasty footover.
Paying for foot fetish action is all Morris has, because he's apparently hung like a gnat.
/that's what I heard
195 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 9:58:37pm |
re: #194 TedStriker
Paying for foot fetish action is all Morris has, because he's apparently hung like a gnat.
/that's what I heard
Grin. No comment.
196 | The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:00:23pm |
re: #194 TedStriker
Paying for foot fetish action is all Morris has, because he's apparently hung like a gnat.
/that's what I heard
Great.
I'm going to need an icepick lobotomy to get that image out of my brain.
197 | TedStriker Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:01:08pm |
re: #144 Lidane
Hahaha:
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The RWNJs want Boehner and the GOP leadership to be like Andy Dufresne in the beginning of Shawshank Redemption, just so they can play the Sisters.
199 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:03:38pm |
@reppaulryan Your betrayal is hurting millions that trusted you. Very sorry to discover that you're a Rino. Enjoy your last 2 years. #TCOT— Rafael Kafka (@RFKA) January 2, 2013
200 | Lidane Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:05:55pm |
Ok. Back to reality. I've got to hit the hay. Big meeting tomorrow to talk about a massive potential opportunity at work. Later, lizards!
201 | SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:06:46pm |
To: SeekAndFind
Secession starting to look very, very appealing now. Seriously, f&ck Barry, f*ck the spineless scumbags who dare call themselves conservative, and f%ck everyone who votes people like Obama into power. They can all go to hell.
177 posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2013 11:04:58 PM by Viennacon
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202 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:06:55pm |
re: #199 Lidane
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Heh. As I said. I don't know who's more pathetic. The GOP House caucus or the idiots who swear that this is their last time ever voting Republican but who will do so this year and beyond anyhow because they hate the Democrats and liberals that much.
203 | Kid A Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:07:16pm |
Comment over at the King of Derp's website about the 150th anniversary of the Emancipation Proclamation:
And now they’re instrumental in destroying America from within. Not sure if this is the outcome Lincoln foresaw? Expect things to get worse going forward. They have smelled victory and together with the liberals, Muslims, bitter Hispanics and other third-world immigrants with no skin in the game, America will become a shell of it’s former self.
204 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:07:36pm |
re: #201 SpaceJesus
To: SeekAndFind
Secession starting to look very, very appealing now. Seriously, f&ck Barry, f*ck the spineless scumbags who dare call themselves conservative, and f%ck everyone who votes people like Obama into power. They can all go to hell.
177 posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2013 11:04:58 PM by Viennacon
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Better get busy Viennacon because you're going to up late fucking :).
205 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:08:15pm |
re: #203 Kid A
Comment over at the King of Derp's website about the 150th anniversary of the Emancipation Proclamation:
Well here's someone who clearly doesn't understand Lincoln's legacy at all.
206 | SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:08:47pm |
re: #204 HappyWarrior
i'm having a pretty hard time imagining a freeper living in vienna
207 | freetoken Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:09:58pm |
re: #206 SpaceJesus
i'm having a pretty hard time imagining a freeper living in vienna
Imagine 1940.
208 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:10:10pm |
209 | freetoken Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:10:30pm |
210 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:10:32pm |
re: #206 SpaceJesus
i'm having a pretty hard time imagining a freeper living in vienna
There's a Vienna, Virginia not too far from here. Could be that. And yeah I can't either after having been there a few years back.
211 | Targetpractice Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:10:34pm |
So I duck out for a few hours to get sucked into Minecraft, come back to find that Boehner just fell on his sword. Guess we'll see if it means anything come Thursday.
212 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:11:03pm |
re: #208 Kragar
Vienna, VA.
Damn, beat me to it and I'm probably the only one on here who's actually been there and the more famous Vienna.
213 | BongCrodny Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:11:03pm |
re: #199 Lidane
@RepPaulRyan Your betrayal is hurting millions that trusted you. Very sorry to discover that you're a Rino. Enjoy your last 2 years.
They're gonna run out of people to hate.
214 | Kid A Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:11:36pm |
re: #205 HappyWarrior
Well here's someone who clearly doesn't understand Lincoln's legacy at all.
Lincoln shredded the constitution and expanded government. Sounds like someone we might know.
215 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:12:15pm |
re: #213 BongCrodny
They're gonna run out of people to hate.
Yep, Rubio or Rand Paul's going to betray them. There's always Bachmann I guess. But I don't see her being a serious candidate for president at all in 2016.*
* Then again who foresaw Rick Santorum, thorn in Mitt Romney's side.
217 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:12:49pm |
re: #209 freetoken
Vienna, Sausage.
Saw a great saying earlier;
To those who ask why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free, remember you don't need to buy the whole pig if you just want a little sausage.
218 | Kid A Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:12:57pm |
More derp:
“150 Years Ago Today… Republicans Freed the Slaves..”
That,
Turned out
Really Great!
219 | BongCrodny Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:13:29pm |
220 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:14:25pm |
re: #218 Kid A
More derp:
Yep that's some fine derp there. Bemoaning the Emancipation Proclamation because you don't like the fact that blacks vote Democratic and that played a role in getting first African American in the WH? Yeah but liberals and progressives are the real racist. How do I know this, Unkie Rush told me so!
221 | Kid A Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:15:52pm |
From Erick Son of Erick:
The Republican Establishment in Washington, DC should be burned to the ground and salt spread on the remains. Republicans who saw Mitch McConnell and John Boehner destroy the last plank of the Republican Party are going to need to look elsewhere for a savior for their party. Boehner and McConnell have declared they will survive. Their party? They don’t really care.
222 | Targetpractice Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:17:25pm |
re: #221 Kid A
From Erick Son of Erick:
Oh quit your bitching, Erick, you're no more in danger of abandoning the GOP today than you were yesterday. Drop the drama bullshit and move on.
223 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:18:32pm |
re: #222 Targetpractice
Oh quit your bitching, Erick, you're no more in danger of abandoning the GOP today than you were yesterday. Drop the drama bullshit and move on.
Seriously. Most of these people aren't going to abandon the GOP. They'll bitch about the GOP but they'll keep on voting for them because they hate the Democrats more. Barnum was right about suckers.
224 | Four More Tears Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:18:43pm |
re: #222 Targetpractice
Oh quit your bitching, Erick, you're no more in danger of abandoning the GOP today than you were yesterday. Drop the drama bullshit and move on.
At least he didn't call them goat-fuckers...
225 | freetoken Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:19:39pm |
re: #222 Targetpractice
Erick is comparatively sane, though, compared to the likes of WND. The droolies lead stories are about permanent dystopia from an EMP destroying electrical generation, about forced confiscation of guns, and so forth.
226 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:20:58pm |
re: #225 freetoken
Erick is comparatively sane, though, compared to the likes of WND. The droolies lead stories are about permanent dystopia from an EMP destroying electrical generation, about forced confiscation of guns, and so forth.
Yeah, that's what sad. A man who once called the Supreme Court Justice of the United States a goat fucking child molester because he didn't like the way the guy ruled on health care is considered a grown up within the right wing blogosphere. Strange times we live in.
227 | freetoken Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:25:55pm |
BTW, a week from today at the annual AAS meeting the Kepler team will present an update on "Planets and Planetary Systems Identified by Kepler". Will be interested in seeing the current count, which will be updated with the last data from the regular mission. Kepler is now in its extended mission, which will go on for a year, and perhaps longer.
228 | Targetpractice Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:26:41pm |
Gotta say, Thursday shall be interesting. Even if they vote to bounce Boehner, they need to have somebody to get behind. Cantor would seem the obvious choice, but he did support Plan B. So it's questionable at this time if he's close enough to the boss man to be a victim of the coup.
229 | wilburs Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:29:48pm |
Maybe we can get the Louie Gohmert groundswell going
230 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:30:00pm |
re: #228 Targetpractice
Gotta say, Thursday shall be interesting. Even if they vote to bounce Boehner, they need to have somebody to get behind. Cantor would seem the obvious choice, but he did support Plan B. So it's questionable at this time if he's close enough to the boss man to be a victim of the coup.
With tempers flaring, I expect them to back their craziest horses on Thursday.
231 | freetoken Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:32:18pm |
re: #228 Targetpractice
I wonder if those Republicans who acted all angry tonight over the abandoning of the Sandy vote are really that angry with John the Orange. Would they, the ones coming back, dare to skip voting for him?
232 | Targetpractice Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:35:56pm |
re: #231 freetoken
I wonder if those Republicans who acted all angry tonight over the abandoning of the Sandy vote are really that angry with John the Orange. Would they, the ones coming back, dare to skip voting for him?
Would not surprise me that Boehner did more to piss off enough votes today than he's done up til now to seal the deal on his speakership. Which explains why he's been working so hard to avoid a vote before Thursday.
233 | wilburs Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:36:14pm |
who else really wants the job?
i can't imagine too many are really interested in being a wingnut punching bag
234 | HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:36:40pm |
re: #233 wilburs
who else really wants the job?
i can't imagine too many are really interested in being a wingnut punching bag
Cantor seems to want it.
235 | austin_blue Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:41:12pm |
Golly! The #TCOT feed on twitter seems to contain a lot of negative responses to how Democracy actually works! Traitors! Media! Fifth columnists! Liars, Pansies, and Cowards, oh my!
This is making sausage, you numbnuts. This is politics, blood and bone. Wait until you see what happens in the next five months when you have a pragmatic President cut loose on a fractured majority in the House.
236 | BongCrodny Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:46:03pm |
re: #234 HappyWarrior
Cantor seems to want it.
Three of the last four Speakers of the House have been Newt Gingrich, Dennis Hastert and John Boehner.
So, sure, Cantor, why not? Just another case of the next lunatic in succession.
237 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:47:28pm |
re: #234 HappyWarrior
Cantor seems to want it.
It would explain his earlier pledge to stand by Boehner, then voting no tonight.
238 | freetoken Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:54:14pm |
This one goes out to all the House Republicans:
239 | makeitstop Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:55:29pm |
re: #235 austin_blue
Wait until you see what happens in the next five months when you have a pragmatic President cut loose on a fractured majority in the House.
Word. Obama's going to take these chumps to the cleaners.
240 | freetoken Tue, Jan 1, 2013 10:59:15pm |
Hmmm... Patsy also sang one John the Orange could identify with:
241 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 11:01:14pm |
re: #240 freetoken
Hmmm... Patsy also sang one John the Orange could identify with:
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242 | Kragar Tue, Jan 1, 2013 11:03:50pm |
And this is for all the sad, sad, teabaggers out there.
243 | wilburs Tue, Jan 1, 2013 11:11:07pm |
not to worry
there will be a new OUTRAGE!!!!!!! tomorrow, and this will be forgotten
244 | Tigger2 Wed, Jan 2, 2013 12:38:54am |
re: #114 HappyWarrior
We're going to see some of the same madness we've seen with Senate candidates in the past two terms but with the House. And the thing is, they may get their wish. Congressional primaries are low turnout. So, I totally expect to see some high profile YES's to get primaried.
There is a push by Dems to get out the kind of ground game like Obama had in '12' for "14' gonna try and treat it like a Presidential election.
245 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Jan 2, 2013 1:02:58am |
re: #244 Tigger2
There is a push by Dems to get out the kind of ground game like Obama had in '12' for "14' gonna try and treat it like a Presidential election.
They need to run faster to keep from falling behind, yes...
246 | efuseakay Wed, Jan 2, 2013 1:19:19am |
re: #203 Kid A
Comment over at the King of Derp's website about the 150th anniversary of the Emancipation Proclamation:
These idiots don't even remember that it was "the founders" who invaded this sovereign land, practically wiped out the natives, and imposed their will on non-Brits. "Shell of its former self"? Sigh.
247 | stabby Wed, Jan 2, 2013 2:08:12am |
re: #246 efuseakay
One thing we all missed in the gun control debates of last week was the real purpose of the 2nd amendment.
Ask yourself what was going on back then, why did people need guns?
...
To fight the Indians.
To oppress the slaves.
Those are the meaning of the 2nd amendment, they were just too diplomatic to write that down.
Notice that the attitudes in gun culture haven't changed even if the targets are gone. It's still a culture based on considering whole populations of others to be the enemy!
It's still largely blacks, but because of crime or because of fantasies of a coming race war. In fact that's one reason that the tea party wants rid of ALL entitlements, because they have a fantasy that this will start a race war!
All that stuff about how guns protect liberty FROM THE GOVERNMENT is a modern, after the fact substitute for the original reasons, kill Indians, enslave blacks!
248 | freetoken Wed, Jan 2, 2013 3:11:03am |
"January, Fireside", by Tchaikovsky:
249 | Vicious Babushka Wed, Jan 2, 2013 4:15:21am |
Good morning Lizardia!
Will this week's paycheck be smaller than last week's? Will I be able to feed my family and keep a roof over our heads?
250 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Jan 2, 2013 4:25:59am |
re: #249 Vicious Babushka
Not a spurious question to ask when so many Americans are living from paycheck to paycheck...
251 | Vicious Babushka Wed, Jan 2, 2013 4:26:30am |
Oh look: Eric Cantor is heavily invested in a fund that would profit handsomely from default of Federal government. huff.to/mSx4oo— N. William Metke (@metkelaw) January 2, 2013
252 | wheat-dogghazi Wed, Jan 2, 2013 4:37:28am |
re: #251 Vicious Babushka
Follow the money.
254 | Shiplord Kirel Wed, Jan 2, 2013 4:50:22am |
Our official national jackass, Howard Stern, has come out against an assault weapons ban.
255 | simoom Wed, Jan 2, 2013 5:20:29am |
Correction: John Boehner told Harry Reid to "go fuck yourself" *twice*. politico.com/story/2013/01/...— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) January 2, 2013
@robertcostanro if thats true, then it was a show. It was intended to be leaked to lessen damage from this.— Joshua Saunders (@steamboat2302) January 2, 2013
Starbucks to write "Go Fuck Yourself" on drinks beginning tomorrow.— Elle(@ElleSophiaD) January 2, 2013
256 | Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jan 2, 2013 5:24:19am |
re: #203 Kid A
Comment over at the King of Derp's website about the 150th anniversary of the Emancipation Proclamation:
These are the same people who are still pissed at Snake Plisskin for turning on Cliff Robertson's POTUS at the end of "Escape from LA". ;P
257 | simoom Wed, Jan 2, 2013 5:30:05am |
re: #256 Feline Fearless Leader
These are the same people who are still pissed at Snake Plisskin for turning on Cliff Robertson's POTUS at the end of "Escape from LA". ;P
258 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Jan 2, 2013 5:46:02am |
re: #255 simoom
A few days ago, I got a latte from Starbucks and didn't start on it until I got home, at which point I discovered that they had completely neglected to put the espresso in it.
Handing someone a cup of vanilla-flavored hot milk is essentially the same as saying "Go Fuck Yourself", in my estimation.
260 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 5:47:05am |
Morning, Lizards!
Looks like #tcot is still a bastion of reasoned, rational conversation:
Marxists @speakerboehner @mcconnellpress @leonardlancenj7 Need to Be Removed #tcot— Gary Christensen (@garyc3) January 2, 2013
DC has de facto made Americans outside the beltway slaves by their tax system for the betterment of DC. Time for change. #tcot— LibertyCallsYouOut (@dwightrobertsjr) January 2, 2013
FLOTUS, eat this: Overweight people have LOWER death risk ind.pn/VtoVI3 #tcot #LUR #p2— LaborUnionReport (@laborunionrpt) January 2, 2013
#ObamaTheVacationing once again returns to the Islands where he wishes he had been born... #tcot— John Liberty (@JohnLibertyUSA) January 2, 2013
The atheists are extra especially vile today. Al Qaeda officials must've cracked the whip on them hard this morning! #tcot— Rev. Norman Price (@STOPATHEISTS) January 2, 2013
261 | Vicious Babushka Wed, Jan 2, 2013 5:48:13am |
re: #260 Lidane
Morning, Lizards!
Looks like #tcot is still a bastion of reasoned, rational conversation:
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I see that #tcot is a good source for The DERP List!.
262 | wheat-dogghazi Wed, Jan 2, 2013 5:51:19am |
So, let me get this straight. Taxes will go up on the wealthy, and the tax cuts for the middle classes will remain in effect. And this is bad for most Americans how? The way the RWNJs are ranting, you'd think Congress had just passed a 90% tax rate on everyone.
263 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Jan 2, 2013 5:52:39am |
re: #262 wheat-dogghazi
So, let me get this straight. Taxes will go up on the wealthy, and the tax cuts for the middle classes will remain in effect. And this is bad for most Americans how? The way the RWNJs are ranting, you'd think Congress had just passed a 90% tax rate on everyone.
Job creators. Job creators. Job creators. Job creators.
264 | wheat-dogghazi Wed, Jan 2, 2013 5:54:18am |
re: #263 Sol Berdinowitz
Job creators. Job creators. Job creators. Job creators.
My last job in the US was with a private high school. Not many multi-millionaires among its administrators, AFAIK.
265 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 2, 2013 5:54:57am |
re: #262 wheat-dogghazi
So, let me get this straight. Taxes will go up on the wealthy, and the tax cuts for the middle classes will remain in effect. And this is bad for most Americans how? The way the RWNJs are ranting, you'd think Congress had just passed a 90% tax rate on everyone.
or maybe not
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
From the Tax Policy Center in Washington. An arm of the Brookings Institute. Not exactly a RWNJ organization
266 | Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jan 2, 2013 5:55:19am |
re: #262 wheat-dogghazi
So, let me get this straight. Taxes will go up on the wealthy, and the tax cuts for the middle classes will remain in effect. And this is bad for most Americans how? The way the RWNJs are ranting, you'd think Congress had just passed a 90% tax rate on everyone.
The temporary cut in payroll tax ended however I think. So there will be a tax effect on everyone.
Things are still a mess since I think the "compromise" skipped a number of items that still need to be addressed. Not to mention the need for a longer term fix since our current tax system is becoming more of a mess and we have a dysfunctional legislative system currently that is not interested in the necessary cooperative governance.
Sort of like turning over your household budget and financing control to a couple of 10-year-old children with emotional control issues and a competitive dislike for each other.
267 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 5:57:50am |
re: #262 wheat-dogghazi
The way the RWNJs are ranting, you'd think Congress had just passed a 90% tax rate on everyone.
Oh, it gets better. Just look at the Freepers:
FR: A 2013 Conservative Call to Arms bit.ly/W1khj2 #tcot— CafeNetAmerica (@cafenetamerica) January 2, 2013
268 | wheat-dogghazi Wed, Jan 2, 2013 5:59:34am |
re: #266 Feline Fearless Leader
OK. I got the details muddled in my head. Still, it's not that big a deal, a 2% rise, back to the levels before the temporary cuts, right? Yet these guys are calling for revolution, impeachment and a gutting of the GOP leadership.
Personally, I would not trust my budget to any 10-year-olds, thanks very much. I suspect the food and entertainment categories would rise precipitously.
269 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:01:49am |
North Korean leader, in rare address, seeks end to confrontation with South
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Kim Jong-un called for an end to confrontation between the two Koreas, technically still at war in the absence of a peace treaty to end their 1950-53 conflict, in a surprise New Year's broadcast on state media.
So here's what you do if you're serious, Kimmy
Step 1
Write up a peace treaty, sign it and send it to the South.
Step 2
Hope they accept
270 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:02:12am |
Well the socialist POTUS got his way, and we are on the fast track to being Greece. Unbelievable! #tcot #disgusted #disappointed— Michele Whitley (@michele_whitley) January 2, 2013
271 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:03:43am |
re: #262 wheat-dogghazi
This is what I've been saying. The tax plan that was adopted would have been cheered by the GOP if anyone other than President Obama was signing it into law.
It makes permanent the 2001/2003/2009 tax rate changes for those making under $400/450k and only those above face a resumption of the 39.6% tax rate in effect for the top tax bracket before the 2001 tax rate changes.
Capital gains rates remain at 15% for those making under $400/450k, those above that level see the rate rise to 20% or 23.8% (the higher rate is due to the tax imposed on high income earners to cover the PPACA changes).
However, the payroll tax rises back to 6.2% from 4.2%, affecting most taxpayers because that rate reduction was hoped to boost the economy during the recession.
BTW, the biggest item in the tax plan is making permanent the AMT patch. Instead of having an annual patch extended, they've made the patch permanent and it counts against the scoring to the tune of $1.8 trillion (as opposed to the total cost of $3.9 trillion over 10 years).
The cost is calculated comparing the law as in effect on January 1, 2013, which is where rates revert to their pre-2001 levels, plus no AMT patch.
Comparing the tax plan to what was in effect on 12/31/2012, and the new plan generates far more revenue and begins to close the spending gap.
272 | wheat-dogghazi Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:03:44am |
re: #270 Lidane
Another stellar economic expert weighs in. Like comparing apples and oranges.
273 | Vicious Babushka Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:04:06am |
re: #263 Sol Berdinowitz
Job creators. Job creators. Job creators. Job creators.
Do you know what created some of the best, high-paying jobs in the past few years? THE AUTO INDUSTRY BAILOUT! Not the Waltons.
274 | Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:05:08am |
re: #269 sattv4u2
North Korean leader, in rare address, seeks end to confrontation with South
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Kim Jong-un called for an end to confrontation between the two Koreas, technically still at war in the absence of a peace treaty to end their 1950-53 conflict, in a surprise New Year's broadcast on state media.So here's what you do if you're serious, Kimmy
Step 1
Write up a peace treaty, sign it and send it to the South.
Step 2
Hope they accept
Aren't we about due for their periodic offer to make some sort of deal in exchange for a sweetheart contract regarding getting food and tech? IIRC, they alternate between that and sabre-rattling exercises such as tossing missiles into the Pacific past Japan, artillery fire into islands disputed with South Korea, and the odd torpedoing of ships.
275 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:07:35am |
re: #274 Feline Fearless Leader
Aren't we about due for their periodic offer to make some sort of deal in exchange for a sweetheart contract regarding getting food and tech? IIRC, they alternate between that and sabre-rattling exercises such as tossing missiles into the Pacific past Japan, artillery fire into islands disputed with South Korea, and the odd torpedoing of ships.
Exactically!
They have been playing Lucy to the worlds Charlie Brown, holding then pulling the football away at the last second for decades now
276 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:09:21am |
One more for the Derp List:
Nazi Hitler Jugen Pope Denounces 'Unregulated Capitalism' in New Year's Message theblaze.com/stories/pope-d... #tcot— John Galt (@mzagorski) January 2, 2013
277 | Decatur Deb Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:09:26am |
re: #244 Tigger2
There is a push by Dems to get out the kind of ground game like Obama had in '12' for "14' gonna try and treat it like a Presidential election.
Yup. Was hoping to lay back for a bit, but just got a slight whiff of napalm.
The OFA 4.0 is to be fielded in 60 days or so.
278 | wheat-dogghazi Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:11:13am |
re: #276 Lidane
The Pope is atheistic socialist Muslim Nazi!
279 | Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:14:21am |
re: #275 sattv4u2
Exactically!
They have been playing Lucy to the worlds Charlie Brown, holding then pulling the football away at the last second for decades now
Also generally cheaper and less casualty-causing to pay the extortion than to buckle down and actually attempt to overturn the regime. It was obvious even to George that taking out that part of the so-called "axis of evil" was going to cost more political capital, money, and American warm bodies becoming cold ones than he and his advisers were willing to risk.
(Added "American" since I have doubts that some of the advisers considered non-American warm bodies in their calculations beyond the implied political costs in getting Japan, South Korea, and China involved in the process.)
280 | William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:15:51am |
re: #270 Lidane
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Silly Teabagger, Austerity caused Greece's collapse. This avoids austerity in the US. In case you ever bothered to learn to read, you can learn all about this in "The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money" by JM Keynes.
281 | wheat-dogghazi Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:18:44am |
re: #280 William Barnett-Lewis
Silly Teabagger, Austerity caused Greece's collapse. This avoids austerity in the US. In case you ever bothered to learn to read, you can learn all about this in "The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money" by JM Keynes.
But reedin iz hard!
282 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:20:18am |
FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 659
(Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined)
H R 8 RECORDED VOTE 1-Jan-2013 10:57 PM
QUESTION: On Motion to Concur in the Senate Amendments
BILL TITLE: To extend certain tax relief provisions enacted in 2001 and 2003, and to provide for expedited consideration of a bill providing for comprehensive tax reform, and for other purposes
Ayes Noes PRES NV
Republican 85 151 5
Democratic 172 16 3
Independent
TOTALS 257 167 8
285 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:31:28am |
Dow 13,104.14 (+1.28 %) +166.03
Nasdaq 3,019.51 (+2.00 %) +59.2
S&P 1,426.19 (+1.69 %)
Guess the markets liked what they got from the deal.
287 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:33:04am |
re: #282 Gus
8 "NV"s
How can one Not Vote on a bill of this magnitude?
They should have their parking space relegated to an outer lot till the next important vote
/
288 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:33:36am |
re: #287 sattv4u2
8 "NV"s
How can one Not Vote on a bill of this magnitude?
They should have their parking space relegated to an outer lot till the next important vote
/
Absent maybe?
289 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:34:01am |
re: #285 lawhawk
Dow 13,104.14 (+1.28 %) +166.03
Nasdaq 3,019.51 (+2.00 %) +59.2
S&P 1,426.19 (+1.69 %)Guess the markets liked
whatTHAT they gotfrom theA deal.
It was the uncertainty that was holding it back. That there IS a deal breaks the logjam
290 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:34:43am |
re: #288 Gus
Absent maybe?
Perhaps, so let me amend my 287
How can one BE ABSENT on a bill of this magnitude?
They should have their parking space relegated to an outer lot till the next important vote
291 | dragonath Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:36:21am |
Via the New York Times, check out how almost every representative voted for the bill on the West Coast and the Northeast- and the almost total absence of yeas from the South.
[Link: politics.nytimes.com...]
292 | Mattand Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:36:29am |
293 | wheat-dogghazi Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:38:47am |
re: #291 dragonath
the Neo Confederate voting bloc
294 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:38:54am |
re: #290 sattv4u2
Perhaps, so let me amend my 287
How can one BE ABSENT on a bill of this magnitude?
They should have their parking space relegated to an outer lot till the next important vote
Dan Burton did not win reelection. John Lewis's wife died recently. Ron Paul... you would think he'd vote no. Maybe they're just honey badgers.
295 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:38:55am |
re: #288 Gus
These are the Present but did not votes:
Marie Buerkle R NY-25
Dan Burton R IN-5
Sam Graves R MO-6
Jerry Lewis R CA-41
John Lewis D GA-5
Ron Paul R TX-14
Pete Stark D CA-13
Lynn Woolsey D CA-6
296 | Obdicut Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:41:08am |
re: #265 sattv4u2
or maybe not
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
From the Tax Policy Center in Washington. An arm of the Brookings Institute. Not exactly a RWNJ organization
mostly because of the expiration of a payroll tax cut,
Upholding that tax cut was a Democratic position; defeating it was the GOP one. So this makes the GOP look slightly worse.
297 | Mattand Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:41:14am |
From the Moving the Goalposts Department:
Grover Norquist: I'm OK with cliff deal
Right, Grover. Whatever you say.
298 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:41:32am |
299 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:41:40am |
re: #291 dragonath
Via the New York Times, check out how almost every representative voted for the bill on the West Coast and the Northeast- and the almost total absence of yeas from the South.
[Link: politics.nytimes.com...]
South Dakota and Oklahoma are rather interesting. Looks like in Colorado we have the usual with the Denver Metro area and into the ski areas.
301 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:43:06am |
re: #285 lawhawk
Dow 13,104.14 (+1.28 %) +166.03
Nasdaq 3,019.51 (+2.00 %) +59.2
S&P 1,426.19 (+1.69 %)Guess the markets liked what they got from the deal.
Now...
13334.53 +230.39 (1.76%)
303 | Obdicut Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:50:37am |
Over the holidays, another friend of mine died over the holidays-- a forty-three year old New London police officer who died of complications from cancer. The cancers were very aggressive, and the time from diagnoisis to death was short. However, even though he had excellent insurance through the police, the medical bills during his short illness skyrocketed and his recent widow is spending half of every day trying to sort through the mess and figure out what she actually owes, what his insurance is really supposed to cover, etc. A member of the police benevolent association is helping her, but it is still horrifically depressing for her.
This is another reason to switch to a single-payer system. The stress and pain of dealing with the arbitrary bureaucracies of the insurance companies, the lack of clarity, and the antagonistic relationship between the companies and their clients makes for sad, sad scenes like this one.
It is immensely frustrating that we're having to move heaven and earth just to pass a simple goddamn budget and prevent the country from going over the fiscal cliff, much less able to move forward on many issues that the country desperately needs. I hope the GOP does split over this issue, because goddamn we need to take action on so many fronts and the Party of No is dooming this country.
304 | wheat-dogghazi Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:50:54am |
re: #302 Gus
I guess he figures he doesn't need to vote. I looked into his background a little. Interestingly enough, his second wife is Arab-American and was his first wife's internist during her cancer treatment.
Burton is from the Fort Wayne area. I used to live in the New Albany area. Todd Young (R-9th IN) voted nay. Yarmuth (D-3rd KY) across the river voted aye.
305 | Obdicut Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:53:10am |
re: #291 dragonath
Via the New York Times, check out how almost every representative voted for the bill on the West Coast and the Northeast- and the almost total absence of yeas from the South.
[Link: politics.nytimes.com...]
And interestingly, the west coast and the northeast have a much higher percentage of millionaires than the South.
[Link: www.netstate.com...]
306 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 6:56:57am |
The level of austerity planned for US in 2013, baked into the cake, nears the highest level from countries in Europe over the last few years— David Dayen (@ddayen) January 2, 2013
Firebagger.
307 | aagcobb Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:03:59am |
re: #221 Kid A
From Erick Son of Erick:
It amazes me. They just won a permanent tax cut for everyone, even the richest, except for income in excess of $400k, which effects less thasn 1% of Americans, in return all they gave up was a 2 month delay in massive spending cuts via sequestration, and you'd think Obama just nationalized the economy. Perhaps whining is their negotiation strategy; it seems to be working.
308 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:06:49am |
re: #254 Shiplord Kirel
Our official national jackass, Howard Stern, has come out against an assault weapons ban.
Finally, Howard Stern says something I agree with.
309 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:07:01am |
Fox co-host: Could we "see riots in the streets" as a result of the tax deal? mm4a.org/VAldMd— Media Matters (@mmfa) January 2, 2013
Derp. Brian Kilmeade.
310 | Targetpractice Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:07:11am |
re: #307 aagcobb
It amazes me. They just won a permanent tax cut for everyone, even the richest, except for income in excess of $400k, which effects less thasn 1% of Americans, in return all they gave up was a 2 month delay in massive spending cuts via sequestration, and you'd think Obama just nationalized the economy. Perhaps whining is their negotiation strategy; it seems to be working.
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
311 | aagcobb Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:07:26am |
re: #249 Vicious Babushka
Good morning Lizardia!
Will this week's paycheck be smaller than last week's? Will I be able to feed my family and keep a roof over our heads?
A regressive tax, the payroll tax, is going up.
312 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:08:22am |
re: #310 Targetpractice
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
Upding for The Dark Knight quote.
313 | Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:08:36am |
re: #311 aagcobb
A regressive tax, the payroll tax, is going up.
But that shouldn't affect the 47% since they're unemployed freeloaders who don't have to pay it.
314 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:10:08am |
re: #300 wheat-dogghazi
Burton is retiring,I believe.
As is Ron Paul. That's probably why they didn't vote on the deal.
315 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:11:28am |
Contraceptives kill thousands of women and young girls every year, and more widely help force women into unwanted sex. So much for freedom.— FreeRepublic.txt (@FreeRepublicTXT) January 2, 2013
Jeez, Jindal. What a fool! The reason they want OTC is to let men buy them for underage gals, including teen “white slave” prostitutes.
Contraceptives kill thousands of women and young girls every year, and more widely help force women into unwanted sex. So much for freedom.
6 posted on Friday, December 14, 2012 7:44:11 AM by Missouri gal
316 | Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:12:32am |
re: #314 Dark_Falcon
As is Ron Paul. That's probably why they didn't vote on the deal.
He's headed for the Grid.
/
317 | Obdicut Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:20:52am |
re: #314 Dark_Falcon
As is Ron Paul. That's probably why they didn't vote on the deal.
Woah, not even the heroic warrior of freedum Ron Paul voted against the deal?
I am grateful for this collapse of the GOP, but I can't say I expected it. I also find it deeply fucking weird that they'd compromise on this and then still not vote on the Sandy stuff, so that they still look like obstructionist shitheads.
318 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:21:12am |
Peter King on CNN: "Anyone from New York or New Jersey who contributes one penny to the [GOP] should have their head examined."— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) January 2, 2013
Boom!
319 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:22:40am |
re: #254 Shiplord Kirel
Our official national jackass, Howard Stern, has come out against an assault weapons ban.
?
Long time gun owner @howardstern reiterates his opposition to assault weapons in the wake of the Newtown tragedy. #H100— Stern Show (@sternshow) January 2, 2013
320 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:23:07am |
Boy progressive purists sure taught Obama a lesson in 2010.You morons also made it impossible to get the House back. bit.ly/VAnJSL— Zandar (@ZandarVTS) January 2, 2013
321 | Joanne Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:28:42am |
re: #171 Lidane
Hahaha. Oh man. The next GOP primaries will be hilarious:
[For 2016, I'm flexible. Palin/West or West/Palin. I could go either way. #tcot
]
I'd laugh, but almost all of the GOP falls into the Palin, West, Bachmann, Rubio, Paul mold. None of them understand governing or policy. Some talk a good game (other's just speak from under tin foil hats), but none of them understand policy or how government functions one whit.
We're Greece! (Really? What's our productivity compared to Greece? Debt to GDP v. Greece?)
If We Ran Our Household Budget Like The Government.... (I have news for you. The government cannot and must not run its house like you and I run ours.)
The lack of understanding about public policy, government in general, and economics are so stunning it should terrify every American with two functioning brain cells.
322 | Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:28:44am |
You'd think the governor of PA would possibly have more important things to do and causes to support, wouldn't you?
[Link: usnews.nbcnews.com...]
323 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:30:28am |
LA celebrity photographer hit by a car and killed while trying to take photo of Justin Bieber's Ferrari. on.cnn.com/TvTjDz— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) January 2, 2013
Guess he'll never get that 100,000 dollar photo.
324 | Targetpractice Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:32:06am |
re: #322 Feline Fearless Leader
You'd think the governor of PA would possibly have more important things to do and causes to support, wouldn't you?
[Link: usnews.nbcnews.com...]
Why does it not surprise me that their bitching point is not that the money is being paid, but that it's being spent outside Pennsylvania?
325 | Joanne Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:32:11am |
re: #311 aagcobb
A regressive tax, the payroll tax, is going up.
Would you prefer Social Security continue to be starved of funding? Because that is the dream of the GOP so they can say it is unsustainable and thus to be permanently removed as the cancerous growth that they view it as?
326 | stabby Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:32:37am |
re: #297 Mattand
From the Moving the Goalposts Department:
Grover Norquist: I'm OK with cliff deal
Right, Grover. Whatever you say.
I disagree! As usual, the Republicans won, but whine about winning as if it was losing.
327 | stabby Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:35:01am |
re: #325 Joanne
Would you prefer Social Security continue to be starved of funding? Because that is the dream of the GOP so they can say it is unsustainable and thus to be permanently removed as the cancerous growth that they view it as?
The right thing to do would be to stop it from being regressive. That would raise a lot more money, and not hurt the economy or the poor.
328 | aagcobb Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:36:06am |
re: #325 Joanne
Would you prefer Social Security continue to be starved of funding? Because that is the dream of the GOP so they can say it is unsustainable and thus to be permanently removed as the cancerous growth that they view it as?
Social security isn't exactly "starved". There is a massive trust fund to keep paying benefits in full after payroll taxes start falling short in 20 years. Raising taxes on working people right now is bad economics because that reduces demand for goods and services at a time when millions of Americans are out of work. I wouldn't oppose raising it again once we get back to full employment.
329 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:39:53am |
GOP complaining that there aren't spending cuts to go along with the tax cuts. That's hilarious considering that no cuts offset any of the 2001/2003/2009 tax plans. Now, they're suddenly demanding a dismantling of the safety net and programs that are funded separately (via the payroll tax).
Mind you that the bulk of the cost for the enacted 2012 tax act is due to making permanent the AMT patch. That's $1.8 trillion over 10 years.
Here's how the math really works out.
Without the patch, income is subjected to the AMT at a far lower amount. The CBO and JCT both look at law as it exists when making projections. So, when they forecast looking out, the AMT captured more and more income tax revenues due to hitting at a lower income tax level. Temporary patches just pushed the number forward, but eventually the AMT would hit at the lower level.
A permanent fix, as here, means that the income is now permanently off the books but is treated as a cost based on the law as in effect on 12/31.
We would never see that income in any event because of the annual patch dance done by Congress, but the CBO and JCT have to treat it in any event because that's how the law is written.
The AMT portion simply makes permanent what Congress has been doing for decades.
Bump that off the final CBO/JCT and there's still a sizable cost ($2.1t over 10 years), but that's again compared to the pre-2001 tax rates that just took effect for a day (the law as written - where tax rates rose to the pre-2001 levels). This act makes permanent the 2001 tax rates for everyone except those making over $400k/$450k.
For all of their whining, the GOP got much of what they've been calling for all along (permanently reducing the tax rates and making permanent the tax cuts so as to leverage future spending cuts - the back door approach to reducing government spending). They got the tax side done for the most part, but they're bitching that the tax act didn't include the spending cuts.
That'll be the battleground going into the new fiscal cliff talks that will conclude in the hours leading up to the next due date - 2 months from now.
330 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:41:07am |
re: #323 Gus
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Guess he'll never get that 100,000 dollar photo.
The death of someone who is not evil is never a good thing, but in this case I hope some good can come of this death, and that the paparazzi learn that some things aren't worth profiting from to be more careful.
Had to edit that post, since saying something's not worth profiting from will cause your local Republican organization to take away your GOP Card.
/kidding
331 | Mattand Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:42:41am |
332 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:43:56am |
re: #330 Dark_Falcon
The death of someone who is not evil is never a good thing, but in this case I hope some good can come of this death, and that the paparazzi learn
that some things aren't worth profiting fromto be more careful.Had to edit that post, since saying something's not worth profiting from will cause your local Republican organization to take away your GOP Card.
/kidding
You have to be careful out there with your head on a swivel. Look around 360 degrees. Listen for cars. Watch for cars that might be parked and about to pull out. Never assume someone sees you. Never assume people will stop at a traffic signal. All it takes is one simple mistake and before you know it you're dead. Gone.
333 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:47:18am |
And yes. Jaywalking is another way to get yourself killed. The most dangerous place being just short of the intersection and not in the middle of the block.
334 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:47:50am |
re: #328 aagcobb
The payroll tax reduction was always meant to be limited in time but it was extended in the depths of the recession. That was a fair resolution, but the recession is over, and while unemployment rates aren't near where they should be, there's been significant improvement in many parts of the country and sectors of the economy.
Perhaps it's time to subject income over the first $110k to the payroll tax. Current law exempts all income over that level from the payroll tax. Raising that level would further resolve the pending trust fund gap going forward. In many respects, the payroll tax is more regressive since it affects low-income earners much more than high income earners - both in real dollars and in percentage of income.
Someone making $100k would have $6,200 taken out in payroll tax - 6.2% of their total income.
Someone making $1 million would have $6,826.20 taken out of payroll taxes (6.2% of the income up to $110,100). That works out to .68% of total income.
335 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:47:52am |
re: #332 Gus
You have to be careful out there with your head on a swivel. Look around 360 degrees. Listen for cars. Watch for cars that might be parked and about to pull out. Never assume someone sees you. Never assume people will stop at a traffic signal. All it takes is one simple mistake and before you know it you're dead. Gone.
I sometimes will tap on the hood of cars I need to go in front of if the driver hasn't clearly seen me. I got honked at loudly once, but its worth that risk to ensure that the driver sees me before I cross.
336 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:50:35am |
re: #335 Dark_Falcon
In NJ, drivers are required to stop when someone is in the crosswalk, but drivers repeatedly and continually ignore the law. Coming home from work, I have to cross a street where one of these signs are posted - and even crossing in the crosswalk with that rule puts your life in your own hands. I've had experiences with cars that blew through - accelerating even - to avoid having to stop for pedestrians. Nearly got run over a couple of times - and I had one driver get out of the car and got irate with me because I yelled at him because he wasn't stopping. Should have called the cops on his sorry excuse for an ass.
337 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:51:06am |
HOw is it this morning.
I woke to an article about my town. For the first time in 6 decades there have been ZERO murders. We are the 2nd largest city in Illinois and have, in the past, been known as a bad, bad city as far as crime and gangs go.
Yes, people have guns in Aurora, but I don't recall any major change in gun laws that would would coincide with the reduction in crime. I think it is a a result of a concerted effort on law enforcement.
338 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:52:03am |
re: #335 Dark_Falcon
I sometimes will tap on the hood of cars I need to go in front of if the driver hasn't clearly seen me. I got honked at loudly once, but its worth that risk to ensure that the driver sees me before I cross.
I almost got hit twice in SF. Once a van cam to a halt right in front of me. I was screaming blood murder and whacked the driver with my umbrella. He bolted. Another time a Honda came to a halt right at me. Stopped just in time but I had to bend at the knees to avoid the bumper. I had the green light in both cases.
339 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:52:30am |
re: #336 lawhawk
In NJ, drivers are required to stop when someone is in the crosswalk, but drivers repeatedly and continually ignore the law. Coming home from work, I have to cross a street where one of these signs are posted - and even crossing in the crosswalk with that rule puts your life in your own hands. I've had experiences with cars that blew through - accelerating even - to avoid having to stop for pedestrians. Nearly got run over a couple of times - and I had one driver get out of the car and got irate with me because I yelled at him because he wasn't stopping. Should have called the cops on his sorry excuse for an ass.
the phrase "pedestrians have the right-of-way" comes to mind. I don't know if it's law or just something that has been rattling around in my brain.
340 | Renaissance_Man Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:52:41am |
re: #308 Dark_Falcon
Finally, Howard Stern says something I agree with.
Oh please. You aren't any more pro-gun than you are pro-'traditional marriage'.
You don't own guns. You aren't a longtime shooter, hunter, or ex-military. You don't have any sort of concealed carry status. You don't have any reason to be 'pro-gun' except that you think it's something you should be because your 'team' is.
You are, like most Americans, wilfully underinformed about the real-life effects of civilian firearm ownership. The negative statistics undermining guns for self-defence are sobering and undeniable, much like the facts underpinning climate change. They are not matters of opinion. Insisting otherwise is like denying climate change or being a creationist. Yet you hope to stay as ignorant as possible so you can continue to support your 'team' line, despite their woeful track record of ignoring facts, and despite the fact that even you can't support it on other factual issues such as climate change and evolution.
341 | aagcobb Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:53:31am |
re: #329 lawhawk
For all of their whining, the GOP got much of what they've been calling for all along (permanently reducing the tax rates and making permanent the tax cuts so as to leverage future spending cuts - the back door approach to reducing government spending). They got the tax side done for the most part, but they're bitching that the tax act didn't include the spending cuts.
That'll be the battleground going into the new fiscal cliff talks that will conclude in the hours leading up to the next due date - 2 months from now.
Exactly, and now that the tax issue has been resolved, I don't see where the Democrats get leverage to prevent massive spending cuts from happening automatically, except that many conservatives don't want defense spending decreased (except Rand Paul).
342 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:54:01am |
re: #336 lawhawk
In NJ, drivers are required to stop when someone is in the crosswalk, but drivers repeatedly and continually ignore the law. Coming home from work, I have to cross a street where one of these signs are posted - and even crossing in the crosswalk with that rule puts your life in your own hands. I've had experiences with cars that blew through - accelerating even - to avoid having to stop for pedestrians. Nearly got run over a couple of times - and I had one driver get out of the car and got irate with me because I yelled at him because he wasn't stopping. Should have called the cops on his sorry excuse for an ass.
California too. I have a theory about that law and it's simple. You wait at the crosswalk behind the curb and wait for all cars to stop. You also have to look for cars behind the other cars which might not stop in time. You don't just walk from the curb and into oncoming traffic expecting them to stop.
343 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:54:40am |
344 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:54:40am |
re: #328 aagcobb
Social security isn't exactly "starved". There is a massive trust fund to keep paying benefits in full after payroll taxes start falling short in 20 years. Raising taxes on working people right now is bad economics because that reduces demand for goods and services at a time when millions of Americans are out of work. I wouldn't oppose raising it again once we get back to full employment.
Is there really an actual Trust Fund?
345 | dragonath Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:55:09am |
re: #337 Holidays are Family Fun Time
Yes, people have guns in Aurora, but I don't recall any major change in gun laws that would would coincide with the reduction in crime. I think it is a a result of a concerted effort on law enforcement.
Wayne's World! Party Time! Excellent!!
346 | Political Atheist Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:56:28am |
re: #340 Renaissance_Man
I disagree somewhat with Dark on the assault weapon ban, but it seem obvious to me that anyone can speak for using the individual right written in the Second Amendment and now confirmed by SCOTUS.
347 | Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:56:31am |
re: #336 lawhawk
In NJ, drivers are required to stop when someone is in the crosswalk, but drivers repeatedly and continually ignore the law. Coming home from work, I have to cross a street where one of these signs are posted - and even crossing in the crosswalk with that rule puts your life in your own hands. I've had experiences with cars that blew through - accelerating even - to avoid having to stop for pedestrians. Nearly got run over a couple of times - and I had one driver get out of the car and got irate with me because I yelled at him because he wasn't stopping. Should have called the cops on his sorry excuse for an ass.
I am very leery in crosswalks - get across the street fast and avoid interacting with the cars since you generally only get to lose once as a pedestrian regardless of your being right or wrong about precedence. Gets remarked on by my coworkers.
And pedestrians in Philly are odd ducks. Lots of jaywalking, but that is not surprising in a city. But I notice the odd habit here of pedestrians waiting for a light to change often standing 3-4' out into the street already.
Closest I came to getting hit in the past six years here was crossing a two-land street (Pine) right after the light changed in my favor. Something (probably peripheral vision) made me delay my first step into the street right as a Philadelphia police car blew through the intersection against the light at about 35mph - no siren, no lights, just ran the traffic light.
348 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:56:34am |
re: #343 Four More Tears
Video:
[Link: www.buzzfeed.com...]
Haven't watched yet. On a stupid 5G card here. But seriously, he might abandon the GOP? That would be something. I'll assume he'd go (I).
349 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:56:39am |
re: #315 Gus
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!
350 | Vicious Babushka Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:57:03am |
DERP
@nwcustomfirearm Everyone pays taxes. Some pay no INCOME taxes b/c they have no or little INCOME. #FAIL— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) January 2, 2013
351 | aagcobb Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:57:41am |
re: #344 Holidays are Family Fun Time
Is there really an actual Trust Fund?
There are a whole bunch of Treasury bonds; and absolutely no reason to think they won't be honored. Social Security is not driving federal spending up in decades ahead. Medical expenditures are, and there are lots of ways to curb them in the decades to come.
352 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 7:58:44am |
re: #347 Feline Fearless Leader
Same in NYC. People will stand 3-4 feet out in to the street because that's the only way to see around parked cars in many instances. Increases the chances of getting clipped by cars that turn.
Some cities, including NYC are changing this behavior by building bumpouts for pedestrians at corners. This way, pedestrians remain on the curb and cars remain separated from pedestrians.
354 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:01:08am |
re: #340 Renaissance_Man
With weapons its different. I have a serious love of firepower, and I've never liked the idea of disarmament. To me, there will always be assholes wanting to take what isn't theirs. Proper citizens should be able to own the means to deal with said assholes themselves if the assholes try to rob or rape them.
355 | Joanne Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:01:29am |
re: #327 stabby
The right thing to do would be to stop it from being regressive. That would raise a lot more money, and not hurt the economy or the poor.
And this would get past the Congress how?
356 | dragonath Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:03:16am |
Adjourning the house last night meant that the House GOP didn't want to set the precedent of having two bills passed in lieu of the Hastert Rule.
A nice reminder that parliamentary tactics are more important than people- not exactly how the framers intended, I think.
357 | romans828 Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:03:44am |
re: #65 makeitstop
Ron Paul did not vote? That is surprising.
358 | Joanne Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:04:10am |
re: #328 aagcobb
Social security isn't exactly "starved". There is a massive trust fund to keep paying benefits in full after payroll taxes start falling short in 20 years. Raising taxes on working people right now is bad economics because that reduces demand for goods and services at a time when millions of Americans are out of work. I wouldn't oppose raising it again once we get back to full employment.
I am not disagreeing with what you're saying. I don't think now is the time to raise the payroll tax. It would have to be removed at some point, though.
If this was the only way to get the asshole GOP to approve the bill yesterday (my biggest concern was the sequester, because the government reducing spending now would be incredibly insane), and that was, at least - and I mean very least, has been pushed back a couple of months. That alone would have crashed the economy. And not just the US economy...it would have caused at global recession - recession at a minimum.
360 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:04:56am |
re: #352 lawhawk
Same in NYC. People will stand 3-4 feet out in to the street because that's the only way to see around parked cars in many instances. Increases the chances of getting clipped by cars that turn.
Some cities, including NYC are changing this behavior by building bumpouts for pedestrians at corners. This way, pedestrians remain on the curb and cars remain separated from pedestrians.
1st grade class at St. Finbar's in Brooklyn. One our fellow students was killed after coming out between two parked cars - baseball. They made us go to his funeral. Open casket, his family was there, mother crying loudly. It was a lesson for us. My mom never allowed us out on the streets alone.
361 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:05:38am |
Thus ends the Paul Ryan 2016 Presidential Exploratory Committee.— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) January 2, 2013
362 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:06:04am |
re: #356 dragonath
Adjourning the house last night meant that the House GOP didn't want to set the precedent of having two bills passed in lieu of the Hastert Rule.
A nice reminder that parliamentary tactics are more important than people- not exactly how the framers intended, I think.
I think they knew it would sometimes work out that way. The Constitution was set up with the knowledge that sometimes assholes obtain significant political power, and one of the aims of the Constitution was to ensure that said assholes would be obstructed from using that power to take away the negative rights of others.
363 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:07:13am |
re: #360 Gus
1st grade class at St. Finbar's in Brooklyn. One our fellow students was killed after coming out between two parked cars - baseball. They made us go to his funeral. Open casket, his family was there, mother crying loudly. It was a lesson for us. My mom never allowed us out on the streets alone.
I virtually crawl thru neighborhoods with kids. I'm terrified of the kid runnning after a ball into the street.
364 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:08:20am |
Is there any other country in the world in which a leader voluntarily (sometimes very happily) gives-up power routinely every 4-8 years?
365 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:08:48am |
re: #361 Gus
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To start one would be a mistake anyway. The voters aren't going to elect a congressman without executive experience to the White House. They sometimes will vote in a Senator, but not a congressman.
366 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:09:03am |
For those keeping count, this is the second time in as many years that the GOP has completely screwed over the NYC metro area.
First, they dithered and dickered over the Zadroga compensation act for Ground Zero workers affected by ailments caused by 9/11.
Now, they've delayed and deferred the Sandy reconstruction bill.
Some in the GOP are claiming that this was because Democrats larded up the bill with pork and they produced a bill that was less than half what NY, NJ, and CT requested - including the requests made by Gov. Christie (a GOPer) and the Republican delegations in both NY and NJ.
Yet, none of the GOP leaders could actually summon up the courage to put this to a floor vote because it would most surely pass in the same kind of fashion that the 2012 tax act just did (basically eviscerating the Hastert rule). It was about preserving the power for the House GOP leaders, not doing what was best for the country.
Don't think that this will be forgotten anytime soon. Not by a long shot.
367 | dragonath Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:09:31am |
How fitting that the modus operandi of the GOP was named after a bloated, corpulent, corrupt party hack.
368 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:09:44am |
re: #364 Holidays are Family Fun Time
Is there any other country in the world in which a leader voluntarily (sometimes very happily) gives-up power routinely every 4-8 years?
Brazil and Mexico are two such nations nowadays.
369 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:09:47am |
re: #366 lawhawk
For those keeping count, this is the second time in as many years that the GOP has completely screwed over the NYC metro area.
First, they dithered and dickered over the Zadroga compensation act for Ground Zero workers affected by ailments caused by 9/11.
Now, they've delayed and deferred the Sandy reconstruction bill.
Some in the GOP are claiming that this was because Democrats larded up the bill with pork and they produced a bill that was less than half what NY, NJ, and CT requested - including the requests made by Gov. Christie (a GOPer) and the Republican delegations in both NY and NJ.
Yet, none of the GOP leaders could actually summon up the courage to put this to a floor vote because it would most surely pass in the same kind of fashion that the 2012 tax act just did (basically eviscerating the Hastert rule). It was about preserving the power for the House GOP leaders, not doing what was best for the country.
Don't think that this will be forgotten anytime soon. Not by a long shot.
New York serves as a prop for the GOP when it suits them.
370 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:10:25am |
re: #368 Dark_Falcon
Brazil and Mexico are two such nations nowadays.
It's a rather rare thing in history, I know. Sad to think it's rather rare nowadays. Probably George Washington's greatest legacy.
371 | dragonath Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:11:54am |
re: #370 Holidays are Family Fun Time
It's a rather rare thing in history, I know. Sad to think it's rather rare nowadays.
But Putin... is so "virile"...
Alpha Male! Alpha Male!
372 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:14:50am |
re: #365 Dark_Falcon
To start one would be a mistake anyway. The voters aren't going to elect a congressman without executive experience to the White House. They sometimes will vote in a Senator, but not a congressman.
Erickson is such a reactionary. JUMP!
373 | Political Atheist Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:16:01am |
(CNN) - For all the stalemate in the fiscal cliff negotiations, there were some heated moments, too.
A Democratic source familiar with one particular exchange told CNN that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell were sitting on a sofa in the White House.
House Speaker John Boehner breezed in and his first words to Reid were "Go f*** yourself."
Boehner's comment came after Reid took to the Senate floor on Thursday and characterized the House speaker's handling of his chamber as a "dictatorship."
Reid responded to Boehner's confrontational tone by laughing, the Democratic source said, though a GOP source who was there said he didn't think Reid was all that happy.
"The exchange continued, and it didn't get any better for Reid," the GOP source said.
374 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:17:11am |
375 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:17:14am |
Renditions continue under Obama, despite due-process concerns
The secret arrests and detentions came to light Dec. 21 when the suspects made a brief appearance in a Brooklyn courtroom.
The men are the latest example of how the Obama administration has embraced rendition — the practice of holding and interrogating terrorism suspects in other countries without due process — despite widespread condemnation of the tactic in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
376 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:17:15am |
Boehner set to meet with NY and NJ delegation today; promises to make Sandy aide top priority of new Congress.— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) January 2, 2013
377 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:17:59am |
re: #373 Political Atheist
(CNN) - For all the stalemate in the fiscal cliff negotiations, there were some heated moments, too.
A Democratic source familiar with one particular exchange told CNN that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell were sitting on a sofa in the White House.
House Speaker John Boehner breezed in and his first words to Reid were "Go f*** yourself."
Boehner's comment came after Reid took to the Senate floor on Thursday and characterized the House speaker's handling of his chamber as a "dictatorship."
Reid responded to Boehner's confrontational tone by laughing, the Democratic source said, though a GOP source who was there said he didn't think Reid was all that happy.
"The exchange continued, and it didn't get any better for Reid," the GOP source said.
Congress is a good bit nastier than it used to be.
379 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:19:58am |
Schumer on #Sandy aid: "Cantor has been helpful ... but Boehner pulled the rug out from under us ... it's a Boehner betrayal"— Brian Fallon (@brianefallon) January 2, 2013
380 | dragonath Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:20:01am |
BTW, here's a page on Wikipedia that has a list of all the legislation that passed the 112th congress.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Hot stuff.
381 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:20:25am |
re: #374 FemNaziBitch
More people have been killed in the Syrian civil war (upwards of 60,000), than all those killed in the Arab Israeli conflict from 1948-2013.
382 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:21:42am |
According to a recent report in the Annals of Internal Medicine, the two perpetrators were in cahoots with the restaurant down the street, and they wanted to give it a "competitive advantage" by sickening their rivals' diners.Such competitive poisoning is not unheard of in China. Just last year, The AP reported on a local dairy farmer who intentionally tainted his competitor's milk supply with nitrite.
In the eggplant incident, the miscreants hid the drug clonidine – a white, odorless powder – in the restaurant's starch. When the chefs thickened up the braised eggplant with the starch, they inadvertently served up a few nearly toxic stir-fries.
All diners that ate eggplant for lunch on April 23, 2010, fell sick almost immediately, the report says. They got dizzy and tired, suffered from nausea and blurred vision, and even started vomiting.
At a local hospital, doctors discovered potentially toxic levels of clonidine in their blood. They treated the patients for low blood pressure and within 48 hours, all their symptoms resolved.
Police eventually discovered the drug in the restaurant's starch and traced it to the neighboring restaurant. The two perpetrators were convicted and sentenced to one year in prison, the report says.
383 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:21:52am |
re: #318 Gus
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Related:
watching Twitter cons arrogantly dismiss NY/NJ Sandy victims struggling to restart their lives marks a sad way to start new year; #tcot— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) January 2, 2013
384 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:22:25am |
re: #381 lawhawk
More people have been killed in the Syrian civil war (upwards of 60,000), than all those killed in the Arab Israeli conflict from 1948-2013.
so sad.
385 | Joanne Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:22:33am |
re: #377 Dark_Falcon
Congress is a good bit nastier than it used to be.
The only saving grace is that they're not punching each other out as they have done in other countries.
386 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:23:09am |
re: #380 dragonath
BTW, here's a page on Wikipedia that has a list of all the legislation that passed the 112th congress.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Hot stuff.
Word Frequency
act 149
title 96
short 90
service 50
nam 41
federal 35
unit 33
postal 32
387 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:23:16am |
re: #381 lawhawk
More people have been killed in the Syrian civil war (upwards of 60,000), than all those killed in the Arab Israeli conflict from 1948-2013.
But those killed in Syria will be ignored, since their deaths cannot be pinned on Israel.
388 | dragonath Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:23:38am |
re: #379 Gus
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You know, that's what I was suspecting last night. Boehner was probably pissed that his whips ended up voting against his bill so he exercised what authority he had to make sure Cantor, et al. wouldn't have anything to undermine him with.
389 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:24:41am |
re: #381 lawhawk
More people have been killed in the Syrian civil war (upwards of 60,000), than all those killed in the Arab Israeli conflict from 1948-2013.
Vietnam War: 58,220 US dead.
390 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:25:40am |
re: #385 Joanne
The only saving grace is that they're not punching each other out as they have done in other countries.
Honestly? I'd rather see them punching each other out. At least then they'd get their bullshit settled out in the open rather than sticking it into their respective bills.
391 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:26:35am |
I will be holding a press conference in Trenton at 2pm today regarding #SandyBill. To watch it live, click here tinyurl.com/3vbwbkr— Governor Christie (@GovChristie) January 2, 2013
393 | Mattand Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:29:06am |
re: #347 Feline Fearless Leader
I am very leery in crosswalks - get across the street fast and avoid interacting with the cars since you generally only get to lose once as a pedestrian regardless of your being right or wrong about precedence. Gets remarked on by my coworkers.
And pedestrians in Philly are odd ducks. Lots of jaywalking, but that is not surprising in a city. But I notice the odd habit here of pedestrians waiting for a light to change often standing 3-4' out into the street already.
Closest I came to getting hit in the past six years here was crossing a two-land street (Pine) right after the light changed in my favor. Something (probably peripheral vision) made me delay my first step into the street right as a Philadelphia police car blew through the intersection against the light at about 35mph - no siren, no lights, just ran the traffic light.
I nearly got plastered by the Septa 42 bus at an intersection on Walnut years ago. He was gonna make that light, vehicular manslaughter be damned.
I'm pretty sure I nearly got hit by a car with Bill Cosby in the passenger seat at 7th and Chestnut. Can't say for certain.
394 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:29:08am |
re: #391 Gus
Dear Gov. Christie,
Plz to give this press conference in your fleece jacket. You know, just to reinforce the point that you were on the ground working during the storm.
Also, please feel free to insult everyone who passed on this bill. Kthx.
Waiting gleefully,
Me
395 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:30:04am |
re: #394 Lidane
Dear Gov. Christie,
Plz to give this press conference in your fleece jacket. You know, just to reinforce the point that you were on the ground working during the storm.
Also, please feel free to insult everyone who passed on this bill. Kthx.
Waiting gleefully,
Me
Might have to be on a 2 second delay. //
396 | Mattand Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:30:33am |
re: #391 Gus
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I think this is going to be one of the rare times I actually agree with my esteemed (es-steamed?) governor.
398 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:31:53am |
399 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:32:02am |
As Gus and I were discussing yesterday, turns out that a straight vote on the 2012 Act would pass. It was the GOP leaders who were holding this up on the optics, not the substance of the bill:
@gus_802 If it came to a straight floor vote, I'd wager it would pass, because there are some who know how bad it would look otherwise— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 1, 2013
400 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:32:03am |
re: #387 Dark_Falcon
But those killed in Syria will be ignored, since their deaths cannot be pinned on Israel.
It's not getting the same attention because it is a civil war. The UN and it's members pointedly stay out of internal conflicts. But this isn't just a conflict.
401 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:32:26am |
402 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:32:38am |
re: #390 Lidane
Honestly? I'd rather see them punching each other out. At least then they'd get their bullshit settled out in the open rather than sticking it into their respective bills.
If that had happened, you'd have been watching the Ryan Plan sail through Congress. Paul Ryan ain't the sort of guy you'd want to get in a fight with, since he's quite strong and he's not the sort to show mercy once he has the advantage.
403 | Vicious Babushka Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:33:37am |
You knew this was going to happen: Wingnuts blaming payroll tax increase on OBAMA even though it was GOP which refused to vote for the extension.
404 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:33:50am |
Wonder if Chris Christie still proud of being a Republican after his party mates break promise to pass Sandy relief bill, go back home.— Gerard Mulligan (@GerardMulligan1) January 2, 2013
405 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:34:02am |
406 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:34:54am |
.@nygovcuomo and I believe this continued inaction and indifference by the House of Representatives is inexcusable. #SandyBill
— Governor Christie (@GovChristie) January 2, 2013
407 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:35:14am |
re: #406 Four More Tears
Oh yeah. This is gonna be fun.
408 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:36:15am |
NJ Congressional delegation is pissed at #Sandy aid package getting killed by Boehner and GOP leaders.
“It’s a disaster dealing with a disaster,” said Rep. Frank LoBiondo (R-2), who represents the southern coast of New Jersey, which was devastated by the October storm. “To say I’m angry and disappointed would be an understatement.”
“It was a total shock — a commitment had been made,” added Frank Pallone, (D-6), who represents the northern part of the shore. “The issue wasn’t whether it would come up – it was when it would come up. There was no explanation.”
While House representatives try to piece together why the vote was called off today, several sources have confirmed that House members have a meeting scheduled with Rep. Eric Cantor, (R-Va.) the House’s Majority leader, in an effort to convene members for the Sandy aid vote before Congress adjourns Thursday. If Congress adjourns without voting on the bill, the process in both the House and Senate would have to start again, said LoBiondo – causing delays that could seriously impact recovery efforts.
“Every tick of the clock works against us now,” LoBiondo said.
House Republicans proposed their $27 billion Sandy disaster aid proposal Wedneday – a scaled-back version of the $60 billion package which passed the Senate last Friday. But LoBiondo and Pallone and others are pushing for the full $60 billion to rebuild their communities, they both said.
Mind you that both NY and NJ governors, plus CT had estimated the damage from Sandy at $87 billion. The Obama request was for $60 billion. So, the House GOP plan would be a third of what the damage tally really is, and they're claiming that it's the prudent plan?
They claim that the $60b plan was larded up with pork, and that the $27b was more targeted and focused, but they ignore that one can't simply build back as things were - it leaves everyone exposed to the same damage for the next inevitable storm. It's got to be built back better and stronger - more durable. That's more costly.
If anything, the Katrina experience was lost on the GOP. Again.
409 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:36:30am |
re: #402 Dark_Falcon
Would this have been before or after he tethered his career to Mitt Romney?
Also, the Ryan Plan was a joke. Fists or not, he couldn't have gotten that pile of shit through the Senate.
410 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:38:43am |
re: #408 lawhawk
If anything, the Katrina experience was lost on the GOP. Again.
That's because empathy is impossible for a party that exists in a permanent state of Fuck You I Got Mine.
411 | Mattand Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:38:58am |
re: #408 lawhawk
NJ Congressional delegation is pissed at #Sandy aid package getting killed by Boehner and GOP leaders.
Mind you that both NY and NJ governors, plus CT had estimated the damage from Sandy at $87 billion. The Obama request was for $60 billion. So, the House GOP plan would be a third of what the damage tally really is, and they're claiming that it's the prudent plan?
They claim that the $60b plan was larded up with pork, and that the $27b was more targeted and focused, but they ignore that one can't simply build back as things were - it leaves everyone exposed to the same damage for the next inevitable storm. It's got to be built back better and stronger - more durable. That's more costly.
If anything, the Katrina experience was lost on the GOP. Again.
Christ, I almost wonder if part of it is the dislike the rest of the country has for NJ coming through. Can't tell you how many mouthbreathers I've had to deal with that think The Sopranos is a documentary.
412 | dragonath Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:39:16am |
413 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:39:18am |
He's fucking pissed.
When American citizens are in need we come to their aid. That tradition was abandoned in the House last night. #SandyBill
— Governor Christie (@GovChristie) January 2, 2013
415 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:41:18am |
Syria's population is something like 20M?
That is somewhere between the population of New York and Texas.
60K is a small city --
damn.
416 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:41:44am |
re: #408 lawhawk
NJ Congressional delegation is pissed at #Sandy aid package getting killed by Boehner and GOP leaders.
Mind you that both NY and NJ governors, plus CT had estimated the damage from Sandy at $87 billion. The Obama request was for $60 billion. So, the House GOP plan would be a third of what the damage tally really is, and they're claiming that it's the prudent plan?
They claim that the $60b plan was larded up with pork, and that the $27b was more targeted and focused, but they ignore that one can't simply build back as things were - it leaves everyone exposed to the same damage for the next inevitable storm. It's got to be built back better and stronger - more durable. That's more costly.
If anything, the Katrina experience was lost on the GOP. Again.
Not lost, many Republican Reps simply don't care. They are frustrated an angry because they were sent to DC in 2010 to cut the size and cost of government and they have not been allowed to do so. It makes them feel betrayed by their leadership.
417 | William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:42:08am |
re: #402 Dark_Falcon
If that had happened, you'd have been watching the Ryan Plan sail through Congress. Paul Ryan ain't the sort of guy you'd want to get in a fight with, since he's quite strong and he's not the sort to show mercy once he has the advantage.
Ryan needs to find a think tank job because he's done in the House. He barely won in his gerrymandered district and he'll be primaried by Teabaggers in 2014. That's one more Dem seat towards breaking the stalemate ;)
418 | ReamWorks SKG Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:42:16am |
It seems to me a lot of this mess is over semantic games wrt "Temporary Tax Cuts."
Americans expect temporary cuts to be permanent. It's a shame that all the Bush tax cuts didn't expire. That's the only way we can hope to make a dent in the deficit.
419 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:42:17am |
The House plan would bifurcate the Sandy aid into two bills. If both sections pass, they'd be reincorporated as a single bill to match up with the Senate plan.
It's an asinine approach and only serves a political cover purpose. Never been done on other disaster spending plans.
Republican leaders of the House decided Monday to cut out about $400 million, split the bill into two sections of $27 billion and $33 billion. The plan calls for separate votes on each part and approval of a parliamentary procedure to rejoin them as a single bill if both passed.
The $27 billion piece, sponsored by House Appropriations Committee Chairman Hal Rogers, R-Ky., would bail out the nearly depleted federal flood insurance program, give the Federal Emergency Management Agency enough funding to cover disaster response needs through late March, and fund some of the transportation, flood control and community reconstruction grants that President Obama asked for Dec. 7.
The $33 billion piece, sponsored by Frelinghuysen, would fund the rest of Obama’s request, minus what he called “Senate earmarks” totaling about $400 million for disaster programs not directly related to Sandy.
For all the talk of pork, the House GOP plan essentially differs from the Senate version by $400 million. The House GOP will scuttle the Sandy aid over $400 million (when that $400 million is going to other areas hit by natural disasters and got piggybacked btw). You'd have to pull the text from the two bills, plus the Senate version to see what's really going on.
421 | dragonath Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:43:08am |
re: #416 Dark_Falcon
Not lost, many Republican Reps simply don't care. They are frustrated an angry because they were sent to DC in 2010 to cut the size and cost of government and they have not been allowed to do so. It makes them feel betrayed by their leadership.
Oh, those poor, poor tea partiers!
422 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:43:12am |
re: #418 ReamWorks SKG
It seems to me a lot of this mess is over semantic games wrt "Temporary Tax Cuts."
Americans expect temporary cuts to be permanent. My only regret is that _all_ the Bush tax cuts didn't expire. That's the only way we can hope to make a dent in the deficit.
Yes, the semantics game is much fun.
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423 | Mattand Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:43:37am |
re: #416 Dark_Falcon
Not lost, many Republican Reps simply don't care. They are frustrated an angry because they were sent to DC in 2010 to cut the size and cost of government and they have not been allowed to do so. It makes them feel betrayed by their leadership.
Yeah, fuck NJ, NY, and CT for getting hit with a 100 year storm on their watch. We deserved it.
424 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:44:17am |
re: #416 Dark_Falcon
Not lost, many Republican Reps simply don't care. They are frustrated an angry because they were sent to DC in 2010 to cut the size and cost of government and they have not been allowed to do so. It makes them feel betrayed by their leadership.
What the Republicans have always failed to understand is that you can't cut the size and cost of government then bitch about roads and infrastructure failing or slow responses during a disaster.
425 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:44:22am |
re: #415 FemNaziBitch
Assad's carrying out the Hama rules dictated by his dad. Deal with opposition with an iron fist. Armed uprisings must be crushed.
That's what Assad's attempting to do, but he's finding that the opposition isn't so easily beaten, not when they've got the ability to fire back.
426 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:44:29am |
re: #416 Dark_Falcon
Not lost, many Republican Reps simply don't care. They are frustrated an angry because they were sent to DC in 2010 to cut the size and cost of government and they have not been allowed to do so. It makes them feel betrayed by their leadership.
So they take it out on people that are not their constituents.
Those poor, poor Republican reps.
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427 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:46:39am |
re: #403 Vicious Babushka
More than that - the payroll tax was always meant to be a temporary tax rate reduction. An extension would have long term negative consequences for the stability of the SSDI program. A permanent cut would have required cutting benefits down the line.
428 | William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:46:58am |
re: #416 Dark_Falcon
Not lost, many Republican Reps simply don't care. They are frustrated an angry because they were sent to DC in 2010 to cut the size and cost of government and they have not been allowed to do so. It makes them feel betrayed by their leadership.
So sorry, but the Teabaggers need to learn that they will not be allow to destroy the nation because they're too greedy to pay their fair share.
429 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:47:01am |
The fact that days continue to go by while people suffer, families are out of their homes...— Governor Christie (@GovChristie) January 2, 2013
...and men and women remain jobless and struggling during these harsh winter months is a dereliction of duty. #SandyBill— Governor Christie (@GovChristie) January 2, 2013
Dis gun b good. Christie is going to take a flamethrower to the GOP today.
Can't wait.
430 | FemNaziBitch Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:47:15am |
re: #424 Lidane
What the Republicans have always failed to understand is that you can't cut the size and cost of government then bitch about roads and infrastructure failing or slow responses during a disaster.
What the GOP refuses to see is that the game changes with increases in population. A country that has doubled it's size since 1950 cannot be run in the same manner as it was in 1950 and remain peaceful and productive.
431 | Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:47:37am |
re: #426 makeitstop
So they take it out on people that are not their constituents.
Those poor, poor Republican reps.
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Bunch of northeastern freeloaders. Should take personal responsibility for being hit by a hurricane and fund their own recovery.
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432 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:47:43am |
House GOP has no problem finding NY to raise $. After Sandy snub, anyone from NY who donates now is out of their mind: youtu.be/9aNwMbKdCDE— Rep. Pete King (@RepPeteKing) January 2, 2013
433 | sagehen Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:48:23am |
re: #408 lawhawk
NJ Congressional delegation is pissed at #Sandy aid package getting killed by Boehner and GOP leaders.
Mind you that both NY and NJ governors, plus CT had estimated the damage from Sandy at $87 billion. The Obama request was for $60 billion. So, the House GOP plan would be a third of what the damage tally really is, and they're claiming that it's the prudent plan?
They claim that the $60b plan was larded up with pork, and that the $27b was more targeted and focused, but they ignore that one can't simply build back as things were - it leaves everyone exposed to the same damage for the next inevitable storm. It's got to be built back better and stronger - more durable. That's more costly.
If anything, the Katrina experience was lost on the GOP. Again.
Peter King was just on with MSNBC, in all his righteous fury... I laugh at him when he goes on his anti-Muslim rants, but today he made me proud to say he's from my state. Yelling about how quick the New York, New Jersey and Connecticut delegations were to support Katrina relief, he feels shit upon that the southerners and mid-westerners are being assholes just because they hate our region and want us to suffer, he resents the regionalism he's hearing in the Congressional cloakroom, and fuck party discipline if this is what they're going to do to him on Sandy the whip can just go fuck himself next time they need his vote for something and... okay, I may be paraphrasing a bit, but that was really the gist of it.
434 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:50:45am |
Because homeless have all the time in the world to wait MT @mattcover Christie/Cuomo should calm down. Not like Sandy relief won't get done.— Danielle Blake (@DCPlod) January 2, 2013
435 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:52:05am |
Urgent Memo to House #GOP: Stop being so damn stupid -- I can't type that fast. #p2— David Badash (@davidbadash) January 2, 2013
436 | Mattand Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:52:55am |
What's amazing is that the House GOP, supposedly the only true believers in American capitalism, is willing to fuck over NYC, the financial center of the entire country.
It's shit like this that makes it so hard for me to not question people's judgement when they vote GOP.
437 | Political Atheist Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:54:53am |
re: #436 Mattand
Spasms of a party on the way down and out.
438 | wilburs Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:54:57am |
re: #431 Feline Fearless Leader
Bunch of northeastern freeloaders. Should take personal responsibility for being hit by a hurricane and fund their own recovery.
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Maybe they are pissed because NJ only gets 60 cents back on every dollar they send to the feds, and NY only gets back 80 cents
439 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:55:17am |
re: #433 sagehen
Peter King was just on with MSNBC, in all his righteous fury... I laugh at him when he goes on his anti-Muslim rants, but today he made me proud to say he's from my state. Yelling about how quick the New York, New Jersey and Connecticut delegations were to support Katrina relief, he feels shit upon that the southerners and mid-westerners are being assholes just because they hate our region and want us to suffer, he resents the regionalism he's hearing in the Congressional cloakroom, and fuck party discipline if this is what they're going to do to him on Sandy the whip can just go fuck himself next time they need his vote for something and... okay, I may be paraphrasing a bit, but that was really the gist of it.
That is part of the issue, truth to tell. It's seen in Illinois all the time: Chicago doesn't understand downstate and looks at too many of the people there as hicks or yahoos, while downstate doesn't understand Chicago and often despises it as a city of crime, temptation and 'socialism'.
440 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:56:48am |
Flashback: Right-wing media label disaster relief bill a "scam" in wake of Hurricane Sandy mm4a.org/VLLCWt— Media Matters (@mmfa) January 2, 2013
441 | wrenchwench Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:57:14am |
John Hiatt "Cry Love" ~ youtu.be/el3IygVnIqM— Don Millard (@OTOOLEFAN) January 2, 2013
He's tweetin' up some good music!
442 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:58:20am |
Another time all Americans are Keynesians:When a hurricane hits their state.— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) January 2, 2013
443 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:59:21am |
FLASHBACK: Fox host mocks NYC 9/11 first responder aid bill, calls it "sentimental," not "a big deal,"; bit.ly/VvEQbx #SandyBill— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) January 2, 2013
444 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:01:38am |
re: #443 Lidane
@ericboehlert The GOP also dickered around with the #Zadroga Act. That's three times in as many years that GOP has screwed NYC metro area— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 2, 2013
445 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:02:00am |
Grimm: Boehner Betrayed Us By Failing To Take Up Sandy Relief
Rep. Michael Grimm (R-NY) said Wednesday he feels betrayed by House Speaker John Boehner for failing to take up Hurricane Sandy relief legislation the night before.
"We were all set to go, and I feel that this was a betrayal, I just half to say it," Grimm told WNYC's Brian Lehrer. "I feel it's a betrayal and an indefensible, an indefensible error in judgment on the Speaker's behalf."
Asked whether it makes him question his support for Boehner when he is up for re-election as House Speaker, Grimm said: "Unfortunately, it absolutely does."
As I said last night - in the optics war, the GOP shot themselves in the face with a howitzer. They haven't begun to taste the outrage they're in for.
446 | Interesting Times Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:03:38am |
re: #416 Dark_Falcon
Not lost, many Republican Reps simply don't care. They are frustrated an angry because they were sent to DC in 2010 to cut the size and cost of government and they have not been allowed to do so. It makes them feel betrayed by their leadership.
So they go and betray vulnerable, suffering storm victims. Getting back to the subject of "punching", what I wouldn't give to allow every one of those victims the chance to do that to the members of the house GOP!
447 | Mattand Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:03:54am |
re: #445 makeitstop
As I said last night - in the optics war, the GOP shot themselves in the face with a howitzer. They haven't begun to taste the outrage they're in for.
This is one time I'm actually for looser gun control.
448 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:03:57am |
re: #445 makeitstop
As I said last night - in the optics war, the GOP shot themselves in the face with a howitzer. They haven't begun to taste the outrage they're in for.
Good. Let them figure out that being obstructionist assholes might win you points with the knuckle-dragging teabagger morans, but that it pisses everyone else off.
449 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:05:00am |
re: #445 makeitstop
To the true believer TCOT and rwnjs, the GOPers like King or Grimm, or even Christie are RINOs (due primarily because they're in the NYC metro area. Therefore, their outrage doesn't count.
Yet, by their actions, the GOP leaders are likely to push folks like King, Grimm, and other GOPers from purple states and districts out of the party - the worst thing the GOP could do.
450 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:05:43am |
Republicans refused request from Hoyer to extend time on the floor for Hurricane Sandy protest speeches by lawmakers— john r stanton (@dcbigjohn) January 2, 2013
451 | Interesting Times Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:07:04am |
When it comes to overall effectiveness and usefulness to humanity, Nancy Pelosi is cool, clear, refreshing spring water, while John Boehner is untreated, orange-tinted sewage sludge.
452 | Joanne Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:07:25am |
re: #390 Lidane
Honestly? I'd rather see them punching each other out. At least then they'd get their bullshit settled out in the open rather than sticking it into their respective bills.
Do you honestly believe that punching each other out would settle any of their bullshit? That would be nothing more than My Penis Is Bigger Than Yours and it would settle nothing. Not one single thing.
453 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:07:52am |
re: #449 lawhawk
To the true believer TCOT and rwnjs, the GOPers like King or Grimm, or even Christie are RINOs (due primarily because they're in the NYC metro area. Therefore, their outrage doesn't count.
Yet, by their actions, the GOP leaders are likely to push folks like King, Grimm, and other GOPers from purple states and districts out of the party - the worst thing the GOP could do.
The end result of short-term thinking and spur-of-the-moment pettiness.
Any politician should know better, but the RWNJs read - and believed - their own hype. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind, y'all.
454 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:09:37am |
re: #451 Interesting Times
When it comes to overall effectiveness and usefulness to humanity, Nancy Pelosi is cool, clear, refreshing spring water, while John Boehner is untreated, orange-tinted sewage sludge.
Anyone actually see Boehner yesterday? I know I didn't. Saw Pelosi at least twice.
455 | Interesting Times Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:10:31am |
Kanye West was wrong. Republicans don't give a shit about *anyone* in a natural disaster zone.— Danielle Blake (@DCPlod) January 2, 2013
456 | Killgore Trout Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:11:07am |
457 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:11:44am |
re: #452 Joanne
Do you honestly believe that punching each other out would settle any of their bullshit? That would be nothing more than My Penis Is Bigger Than Yours and it would settle nothing. Not one single thing.
They're not solving anything now. What would be the difference?
At least if they punch each other it's all out in the open.
458 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:12:21am |
re: #446 Interesting Times
So they go and betray vulnerable, suffering storm victims. Getting back to the subject of "punching", what I wouldn't give to allow every one of those victims the chance to do that to the members of the house GOP!
Hey, don't downding me over it. I'm not defending that sort of thinking, but i know it exists and I'm not immune to it. In fact, I regard an over-focus on one problem or part of a problem to be my great weakness. So I know how that sort of thinking arises in people, and I'm familiar with the rural/urban dichotomy that's also in play here.
Now you're mad at those guys for thinking that way, and that's OK. but please don't be mad at me for trying to be dispassionate in my analysis. This is a problem that touches on issues with how I see the world, and that means I need to be dispassionate about it in order to get past my own problems.
459 | Joanne Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:13:24am |
re: #427 lawhawk
More than that - the payroll tax was always meant to be a temporary tax rate reduction. An extension would have long term negative consequences for the stability of the SSDI program. A permanent cut would have required cutting benefits down the line.
Which is the GOP desired result. I am surprised they didn't demand extending it. But their desire to give on nothing to Obama even outweighed their own desired outcomes.
460 | Joanne Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:16:06am |
re: #439 Dark_Falcon
That is part of the issue, truth to tell. It's seen in Illinois all the time: Chicago doesn't understand downstate and looks at too many of the people there as hicks or yahoos, while downstate doesn't understand Chicago and often despises it as a city of crime, temptation and 'socialism'.
While Chicago pays for almost everything that happens in the state.
461 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:16:41am |
Outcry over House failure to OK #Sandy aid jolts GOP. Boehner sets emergency meeting w/NY-NJ Rs. He's got BIG trouble. @thenation @wegoted— John Nichols (@NicholsUprising) January 2, 2013
462 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:18:22am |
Haters hammered for mocking Hillary Clinton's illness as "Benghazi flu" thebea.st/Rt49KF— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) January 2, 2013
Conservatives and Republicans are in shambles. What a disgrace. All of it.
463 | Interesting Times Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:21:47am |
re: #458 Dark_Falcon
Hey, don't downding me over it. I'm not defending that sort of thinking, but i know it exists and I'm not immune to it.
Then I'd suggest, in the future, you preface such analysis with a disclaimer that you're not defending it - otherwise, it can too easily be interpreted that you are in fact making excuses for what should be inexcusable behavior.
Though I have to be honest and say that, sometimes your attempts to explain horrendous GOP behavior creep very close to "Well, he beat his wife that time because he didn't like the way she made dinner" - even if it may be technically and narrowly correct in one instance, it sounds an awful lot like minimizing, trivializing, and ignoring the elephant in the room - which is that some actions are so hideous the only appropriate reaction is outright condemnation - no excuses or "explanations."
464 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:26:18am |
Derp!
Anti-gay leader cites Chicago's murder rate as reason Illinois lawmakers should oppose gay marriage bit.ly/134gvM5— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) January 2, 2013
465 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:26:24am |
re: #463 Interesting Times
It's not trivializing it, but I find it hypocritical to condemn someone else for the sort of over-focus I myself am vulnerable to. It also leaves me open to criticism the next time I make that sort of mistake. So I find it better to avoid the topic if possible and be unemotional about it if it needs to be dealt with.
466 | Interesting Times Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:27:33am |
Supporting Bush tax cuts & bitching about deficit is like bitching about calories while shoveling down Big Macs. #p2 #p21— Casey (@pari_passu) January 2, 2013
467 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:28:06am |
re: #464 Lidane
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Extreme DERP, given how rare murder is among gay people in Chicago. the vast majority of murders here are on the South Side or West Side (Boystown is North Side) and are gang related.
468 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:32:03am |
@buzzfeedandrew This is beyond dumb.— Gus (@Gus_802) January 2, 2013
469 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:37:03am |
Toomey: Government shutdown 'a hell of a lot better' than giving Obama more debt or taxes(beltway) bit.ly/XiP8OL #tcot— Foundersweb (@foundersweb) January 2, 2013
Because shutting down the government worked so well for the GOP the last time.
470 | erik_t Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:37:57am |
re: #469 Lidane
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Because shutting down the government worked so well for the GOP the last time.
GOP in one word: malicious.
471 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:39:42am |
Heh:
It is Time for Some Honesty. bit.ly/10OAvDP #TCOT #RS— RedState (@RedState) January 2, 2013
472 | lawhawk Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:39:50am |
RT @dnewhauser: The House just adjourned until 11 a.m. tomorrow— Roll Call (@rollcall) January 2, 2013
474 | Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:43:20am |
re: #473 Gus
LOL They're such a bunch of lazy bums.
Depends. You can get work done sometimes more efficiently out of session since a bunch of parliamentary rules governing discussion can be ignored.
However, given the delay and obstruction that got the House to this point I suspect that it is not the most likely explanation.
475 | jaunte Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:43:53am |
re: #468 Gus
@buzzfeedandrew yeah, because he can pass a bill in the house, right? us government 101.
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) January 2, 2013
476 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:48:31am |
ROFL:
The House needs to defund the IRS agents hired to enforce Obamacare and push for a Flat Tax @michelebachmann #tcot #teaparty— J D (@armourer) January 2, 2013
477 | Joanne Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:48:35am |
re: #473 Gus
LOL They're such a bunch of lazy bums.
No Shit. Say NO almost all year and then leave as often as possible. And f0r all that non-productivity, we pay them at least $175,000 annually. What. The. Fuck.
478 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:48:36am |
aaaaaand Scott Brown is out of the gate, accusing Markey of not being a MA resident. Go! bo.st/UFPxaF
— Allison F. (@ablington) January 2, 2013
479 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:50:13am |
re: #475 jaunte
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I know, right. It wouldn't make any difference where Obama made that call. This is obviously the speaker's job and Obama wouldn't visit the House for such a demand. Plus we have things like iPhones and intertoobs.
480 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:52:17am |
Obama's going on holiday to Hawaii, he's not taking a ship from the fucking Grey Havens to Valinor.— Danielle Blake (@DCPlod) January 2, 2013
481 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:53:00am |
Man, 2:00 cannot come quickly enough. Anyone who has to this point missed the outrage over shitcanning the Sandy Relief Bill will get the news first-hand from a Republican who minces no words.
Boehner better send an aide to the liquor store. As bad as his week has been so far, it's about to get a lot worse.
482 | jaunte Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:53:02am |
re: #479 Gus
If he actually visited the House and made a strong suggestion that they do their jobs, we'd be hearing cries of "Dictator."
Oh wait.
483 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:53:14am |
Derp!
So NY & NJ are unable to do anything or provide any relief without the Feds? #tcot— Nate T (@ntw853) January 2, 2013
484 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:53:30am |
re: #480 Lidane
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Earlier...
Apparently BuzzFeedAndrew thinks PBO is on his way to Hawaii on a steamship now located easterly of the Panama Canal.— Gus (@Gus_802) January 2, 2013
485 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:54:46am |
re: #483 Lidane
So NY & NJ are unable to do anything or provide any relief without the Feds?
Sure, we can do that. But the next time a tornado hits some Red State, don't come knocking on our door for a handout. Fair enough?
486 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:55:40am |
It's a Twitter fest morning!
George W. Bush's legacy grows brighter with fiscal cliff deal.. and Jeb's "Bush" problem diminishes wapo.st/12YtYWC— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) January 2, 2013
487 | Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:56:59am |
re: #485 makeitstop
Sure, we can do that. But the next time a tornado hits some Red State, don't come knocking on our door for a handout. Fair enough?
Maybe time to move some military bases out of said Red States along with the associated Federal jobs back into the northeast.
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488 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:57:21am |
re: #486 Gus
It's a Twitter fest morning!
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Man, they're grasping for any silver lining they can find at this point. Even imaginary ones.
489 | Kragar Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:58:49am |
Barton: 'Hate is a Virtue' and 'We're Going to be Intolerant of Liberalism'
On yesterday's broadcast of "WallBuilders Live," David Barton and Rick Green were discussing a column by right-wing blogger John Hawkins titled "5 Ways Liberalism Destroys Virtue" and it prompted Barton to lay out a rambling and rather incoherent theory about how hate is a virtue while tolerance is a sin, eventually culminating in the declaration that Christians have got to be "intolerant of liberalism":
490 | jaunte Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:59:11am |
re: #486 Gus
Wow, she made it through that whole piece without writing "deficit" once.
491 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:59:11am |
re: #486 Gus
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Whatever she gets paid is wasted money. Total hack.
492 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:59:25am |
Clear your schedules so you can watch @govchristie's presser at 2pm re: lack of #Sandy relief vote by House GOP. Prediction? Hulk Smash. #p2— April(@ReignOfApril) January 2, 2013
493 | sattv4u2 Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:00:39am |
re: #487 Feline Fearless Leader
Maybe time to move some military bases out of said Red States along with the associated Federal jobs back into the northeast.
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It's been done (in reverse)
See Nixon,, Massachusetts,,, 1972 election (revenge)
494 | Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:01:02am |
re: #489 Kragar
Barton: 'Hate is a Virtue' and 'We're Going to be Intolerant of Liberalism'
Does "Jesus wept" apply heavily to this?
495 | Kragar Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:02:31am |
Peter King near tears, threatens to quit Republican Party for blocking Sandy relief
“Boehner is the one,” the New York Republican explained. “He walked off the floor. He refused to tell us why. He refused to give us any indication or warning whatsoever… I’m just saying, these people have no problem finding New York — these Republicans — when they’re trying to raise money. They raise millions of dollars in New York City and New Jersey, they sent Gov. [Chris] Christie around the country raising millions of dollars for them. I’m saying, anyone from New York and New Jersey who contributes one penny to the Republican Congressional Campaign Committee should have their head examined. I would not give one penny to these people based on what they did to us last night.”
CNN host Victor Blackwell wondered if King’s disgust over scuttling the hurricane relief was enough to make him leave the Republican Party.
“I’m going to do what I have to do,” King insisted. “I’m going to be independent minded. Sometimes, as John Kennedy said, party loyalty demands too much. And I would — as all of us do — often, you give the benefit of the doubt to your party. We are a two-party system. But I’m over that because as the very least, you’re expected to be treated fairly… When your people are literally freezing in the winter and their without food and their without shelter and they’re without clothing and my own party refuses to help them, then why should I help the Republican Party?”
496 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:02:37am |
497 | The Mountain That Blogs Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:03:53am |
re: #485 makeitstop
Sure, we can do that. But the next time a tornado hits some Red State, don't come knocking on our door for a handout. Fair enough?
498 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:04:26am |
re: #495 Kragar
Peter King near tears, threatens to quit Republican Party for blocking Sandy relief
I would love to see entire GOP delegations in NY & NJ turn in their Republican memberships. It might just shock the leadership into action.
Of course, it will also galvanize the mouth breathing base, so it's a huge risk.
499 | Kragar Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:05:15am |
re: #494 Feline Fearless Leader
Does "Jesus wept" apply heavily to this?
Jesus the Destroyer will convert the heathen with blade and fire.
500 | erik_t Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:09:24am |
re: #495 Kragar
Peter King near tears, threatens to quit Republican Party for blocking Sandy relief
Reminder: this is PETER FUCKING KING we're talking about. I'm pretty sure all of the Kings in the GOP house delegation are utter nutbags.
501 | Renaissance_Man Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:09:50am |
re: #416 Dark_Falcon
Not lost, many Republican Reps simply don't care. They are frustrated an angry because they were sent to DC in 2010 to cut the size and cost of government and they have not been allowed to do so. It makes them feel betrayed by their leadership.
They were sent to DC in 2010 to express the hate of the Conservative media cult towards Democrats and especially the black Usurper in the White House. That is the only reason they were sent there. The size and cost of government matters not a jot to American Conservatives, unless there is a Democrat in the White House.
502 | Joanne Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:10:45am |
re: #488 makeitstop
Man, they're grasping for any silver lining they can find at this point. Even imaginary ones.
Hardly a new tactic. It's all they have now.
503 | Kragar Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:10:47am |
Report: Boehner Told Harry Reid ‘Go F**k Yourself’
During tense fiscal cliff negotiations, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) last Friday told Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) "go fuck yourself," according to a Politico report published early Wednesday. Boehner confronted Reid in the White House lobby and later bragged about it to his colleagues, according to the report.
505 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:19:09am |
@otoolefan @newsagg @brians_neck @davidcorndc This is incorrect. That was Steve King (R-IA) who voted against H R 3673: clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll4...— Gus (@Gus_802) January 2, 2013
506 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:24:44am |
re: #505 Gus
In his defense it can be easy to confuse two old white guys named King... #diversity!
507 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:24:50am |
A delicious roundup of conservative-on-conservative violence bit.ly/Zc90n7— Daily Kos (@dailykos) January 2, 2013
508 | Kragar Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:25:00am |
509 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:26:15am |
re: #507 Lidane
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510 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:26:18am |
re: #506 Four More Tears
In his defense it can be easy to confuse two old white guys named King... #diversity!
This is pretty is funny too:
The amazing shameless agililty of Congressman Peter King
HuffPo — The congressman, who is running for his sixth term, was outspoken about — among other things — the need to pay for any spending on disaster relief, an issue he has dealt with before. In 2005, he voted against a bill to help Hurricane Katrina victims because he said it cost too much at $51.8 billion. King was one of only 11 members of Congress to oppose the bill. King said last week that his vote against Hurricane Katrina relief was “a good vote” and “a principled vote.”
Go ahead and click on the HuffPo link.
511 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:27:01am |
Experts: Efforts to rebuild NY and NJ following Hurricane Sandy may be hampered by the fact Eric Cantor is a total motherfucking bastard— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) January 2, 2013
512 | Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:27:21am |
re: #497 The Mountain That Blogs
I actually hope that doesn't happen. Stooping to that level starts the race to the bottom regarding barbaric behavior based on regional affiliations.
Castigate them for acting like that, but do not be tempted to start acting in the same manner yourself. Yes, it gets taken advantage of (ref. GOP negotiation techniques), but a moral higher ground does exist in these cases and it is worthwhile holding onto it.
513 | Varek Raith Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:29:55am |
514 | bratwurst Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:30:24am |
re: #507 Lidane
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515 | Joanne Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:31:49am |
re: #509 Four More Tears
I should change my name to schadenfreude because this year is starting off with it in spades.
Does it make me a total asshole to be completely relishing in the GOP eating itself? Don't answer that...I don't care if it does. What a glorious way to start a new year.
Perhaps we will see sanity return to the GOP.
Nah...that's not going to happen.
516 | Gus Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:32:21am |
These are the no votes for the 51.8 billion dollar Katrina funding bill in the House:
Barton (TX)
Flake
Foxx
Garrett (NJ)
Hostettler
King (IA)
Otter
Paul
King (IA)
Otter
Paul
Sensenbrenner
Tancredo
Westmoreland
517 | erik_t Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:32:23am |
re: #513 Varek Raith
Fox News Complains That "Mainstream Media" Is "Mocking" NRA's Guns In Schools Plan
They should be complaining that a major policy organization in this country put forth a plan worthy only of mockery.
518 | Renaissance_Man Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:33:04am |
re: #354 Dark_Falcon
With weapons its different. I have a serious love of firepower, and I've never liked the idea of disarmament. To me, there will always be assholes wanting to take what isn't theirs. Proper citizens should be able to own the means to deal with said assholes themselves if the assholes try to rob or rape them.
Neither a 'love of firepower', nor a misguided worship of the Constitution, nor even the bizarre delusion that civilian guns are useful for self-defence trumps the rights of ordinary Americans and their children to not be sacrificed on the altar of gun worship.
519 | Four More Tears Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:33:14am |
re: #513 Varek Raith
Fox News Complains That "Mainstream Media" Is "Mocking" NRA's Guns In Schools Plan
Yeah, really dumb fucking ideas tend to get ridiculed. Get over it, Fox.
520 | Lidane Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:36:33am |
re: #513 Varek Raith
Fox News Complains That "Mainstream Media" Is "Mocking" NRA's Guns In Schools Plan
That's because it's not a plan. It's a dodge of the real issues.
521 | makeitstop Wed, Jan 2, 2013 10:36:59am |
re: #512 Feline Fearless Leader
I actually hope that doesn't happen. Stooping to that level starts the race to the bottom regarding barbaric behavior based on regional affiliations.
Castigate them for acting like that, but do not be tempted to start acting in the same manner yourself. Yes, it gets taken advantage of (ref. GOP negotiation techniques), but a moral higher ground does exist in these cases and it is worthwhile holding onto it.
I forgot my sarc tag on my initial response to the tweet.
I wouldn't deny aid to any American, anywhere. If I felt that way, I'd have to turn in my liberal card, and I'm not about to do that.
But it does infuriate me how the NYC Metro area gets treated by people in parts of the country who would be close to eating dirt if it weren't for the tax revenue that we generate and they benefit from.
Like King said - the GOP is only too happy to come here and raise money. Maybe that is the aid that should be cut off - let them go raise money in parts of the country that they like.
The only problem with that is that most of the parts of the country that they like don't really have that much money.