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1 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 4, 2013 4:30:50pm

These are very creepy and horrible people.

2 sauceruney  Sat, May 4, 2013 4:33:04pm

I can’t listen to the smarmy shrillness. I tried. It hurts my head.

3 stabby  Sat, May 4, 2013 4:45:34pm

Amazing.

4 stabby  Sat, May 4, 2013 4:50:31pm

You know I started thinking about what the dynamic is that makes people like this so full of hate…

And it occurred to me that projection is usually a side effect of the internal effort it takes to impose unnatural control on oneself.

If you’re gay and you’re suppressing it, then you hate hate hate gays.

I think what’s being suppressed here is the ability to have any opinion that’s off the list of accepted dogma. You tell a religious nut what opinions God requires them to hold, and at great effort, on pain of absolute self loathing they force themselves to forgo logic and empathy and hold to those opinions.

And the hate hate hate that they have for those who disagree is their internal self loathing for their own ability to reason and feel contrary to dogma.

5 stabby  Sat, May 4, 2013 4:53:23pm

To put it pithily, Andrea Tantaros hates President Obama because he displays the compassion toward girls that she doesn’t allow herself to feel.

6 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Sat, May 4, 2013 5:25:06pm

I’ve noticed the right will sometimes say that even “middle of the road” or “moderate” Democrats are against something or the President. Of course they seem to not back that assertion up with anything. It is like they throw it out there to cast doubt on the left and make it seem as if the policy or idea is so far left that even “moderate” or most Dems are against it.
No wonder so many Conservatives were convinced they would win this last election by a land slide.
Such lousy people these right wing talking heads are. I’m trying not to put down conservatives as a group by calling the people lousy because I believe they are good people being used by people like Tantaros who appeal to their anger and fear as well as their naivete’ and religion.

7 stabby  Sat, May 4, 2013 5:43:19pm

re: #6 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!

They just can’t believe that there are people out there who don’t feel the moral panic about sex that they absorbed from their abusive upbringing. They believe that their own neurosis is the very definition of goodness. Therefore there MUST be “moderate” liberals who are as neurotic as they.

They’re kind of right, lots of people think the way they do - though perhaps most of the atheists who think like Baptists call themselves conservatives.

8 Gus  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:25:52pm

Low life.

9 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:25:54pm

There are of course entirely medical reasons for prescribing pills that also serve as birth control, reasons that have nothing to do with preventing pregnancy. But this sort of ‘question’ ignores that fact and proceeds without evidence to slut shaming.

Shameful.

10 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:27:12pm

And this type of reporting is going to attract more female voters to the conservative side how?

11 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:34:40pm
Tantaros: “They consider 15-year olds to be women.”

So, in Andrea’s world they’re children whose innocent ignorance has to be protected until their 16th birthday, when boom, they suddenly become eligible and presumably responsible adults.
en.wikipedia.org

12 A Mom Anon  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:34:55pm

What a nasty little velociraptor she is. Jesus, what the actual fuck?

13 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:35:52pm

CL, if you are too tired, or unable to make a comment, blink your eyes once for yes, twice for no.

14 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:36:12pm

Sorry to go OT, but it seems there is a really weird development in Syria:

Assad did something, or was planning to do something, that pissed Israel off.

15 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:36:40pm

Remember, though, Media Matters is the devil.

16 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:37:11pm

re: #11 jaunte

I’m genuinely shocked.

I thought the Age of Consent in Arkansas would be 12.

17 Belafon  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:37:50pm

I do get tired of them mocking “it takes a village.” Not only did was I taught in public schools, but I knew that everyone on the block I lived on could call my parents to let them know what I was doing.

18 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:38:55pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

There are of course entirely medical reasons for prescribing pills that also serve as birth control, reasons that have nothing to do with preventing pregnancy. But this sort of ‘question’ ignores that fact and proceeds without evidence to slut shaming.

Shameful.

Just ask my wife about being sick and in bed for several days once a month, every month without them. One of the few good things about getting older is that it’s no longer an issue for her; that said, it makes me very aware of it for others.

19 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:39:07pm

re: #12 A Mom Anon

What a nasty little velociraptor she is. Jesus, what the actual fuck?

Please do not insult velociraptors in that fashion.

20 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:40:14pm

re: #13 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

CL, if you are too tired, or unable to make a comment, blink your eyes once for yes, twice for no.

Or if you’re too tired to blink, downding then upding a comment.

21 bratwurst  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:41:10pm

Israel’s many haters online are already engaging in a form of fauxtography tonight:

22 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:41:36pm

re: #16 ProBosniaLiberal

I’m genuinely shocked.

I thought the Age of Consent in Arkansas would be 12.

Except that there are a number of states, Nebraska forex, that only very recently changed their AoC laws. I believe Iowa, Delaware, and Arkansas were among the last to increase them. There are a number of quite low AoC laws in Europe as well (Spain, forex, remains 13).

23 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:42:51pm

re: #21 bratwurst

Israel’s many haters online are already engaging in a form of fauxtography tonight:

Lying haters come in all colors and creeds, but they are united by the fact that they are assholes.

24 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:42:55pm

re: #21 bratwurst

Assad did something to cause this response.

Question is, what?

25 bratwurst  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:47:02pm

Now Hezbollah’s Manar TV (a news source of dubious reliability…but probably not any worse the The Daily Mail!) is reporting an Israeli jet has been shot down over Damascus.

26 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:48:38pm

re: #25 bratwurst

For some reason, I have trouble believing them.

Shocking development anyway.

27 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:49:52pm

re: #25 bratwurst

Now Hezbollah’s Manar TV (a news source of dubious reliability…but probably not any worse the The Daily Mail!) is reporting an Israeli jet has been shot down over Damascus.

Unlikely. We’d have seen tracer fire or SAMs in the video.

28 bratwurst  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:51:16pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

Unlikely. We’d have seen tracer fire or SAMs in the video.

I also think this is unlikely, but to be fair nobody is claiming to have video of this AFAIK.

29 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:51:53pm

re: #28 bratwurst

Namely, because it’s night. Hard to see shit.

30 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:52:39pm

Oh, this might not be good.

31 KiTA  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:54:18pm
“Yeah! The same scientific evidence they point to on climate change! Yeah, that’s very reliable.”

Why yes it is, thank you for noticing.

32 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:55:13pm

re: #30 ProBosniaLiberal

Oh, this might not be good.

Some nerve gases aren’t destroyed by high explosives. You have to use incendiaries.

33 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:56:25pm

Israeli officials report their target was a shipment of advanced long-range missiles headed to the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah.
washingtonpost.com

34 jamesfirecat  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:56:30pm

re: #30 ProBosniaLiberal

Oh, this might not be good.

I believe a certain Mr. Sam’s words cover this situation quite well…

“I’m a-stepping….”

35 Kaessa  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:56:44pm

Could it have been an internal explosion rather than an external source? My husband is wondering if it could have been something like Stuxnet screwing things up and causing it.

Just throwing that out there for something to chew on… not invested in this idea in any way.

36 bratwurst  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:57:11pm
37 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:58:06pm

re: #36 bratwurst

It seems as though he forgot his sarc tags. //

38 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:58:06pm

re: #33 jaunte

Israeli officials report their target was a shipment of advanced long-range missiles headed to the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah.
washingtonpost.com

Iskanders? (SS-22s)

39 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 6:58:42pm

“…Lebanese authorities and residents had reported unusually intense Israeli overflights during the previous 48 hours, suggesting the warplanes may have struck their target from Lebanese airspace.

A U.S. official in Washington confirmed that the strike had taken place but refused to provide details. Spokesmen for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israel Defense Forces declined to comment on the reports.”
washingtonpost.com

40 PT Barnum  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:00:09pm

re: #31 KiTA

Why yes it is, thank you for noticing.

I do not understand for a minute why these people delight so much in being ignorant dumbfucks.

41 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:01:05pm

re: #33 jaunte

Israeli officials report their target was a shipment of advanced long-range missiles headed to the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah.
washingtonpost.com

That could also be the sources of the ‘strange odors’: Burning rocket propellent.

42 Ming  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:04:52pm

re: #4 stabby

I agree with everything you say. There may be something to add: money. Hatred of the President is now an industry onto itself.

43 BLUE POINT 09  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:06:16pm

Andrea Tantaros. One more name to ignore. They sleep well at night clutching that paycheck too, I bet. Small petty world they live in.

44 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:07:56pm

Haaretz:
“…American officials say the alleged Israeli strike on Syria targeted Iranian missiles that Israel thought were headed for Hezbollah, the New York Times reported on Saturday.

A batch of surface-to-surface Fateh-110 missiles were being stored at a Damascus airport when they were struck in the attack, a U.S. official told the newspaper.

The Fateh-110 is a medium-range missile capable of hitting targets at a range of up to 300 kilometers. ”
haaretz.com

45 Kaessa  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:10:30pm

Oh, disregard my last statement, I didn’t realize this was the same Israeli attack from earlier. :p

46 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:12:12pm

re: #44 jaunte

Haaretz:
“…American officials say the alleged Israeli strike on Syria targeted Iranian missiles that Israel thought were headed for Hezbollah, the New York Times reported on Saturday.

A batch of surface-to-surface Fateh-110 missiles were being stored at a Damascus airport when they were struck in the attack, a U.S. official told the newspaper.

The Fateh-110 is a medium-range missile capable of hitting targets at a range of up to 300 kilometers. ”
haaretz.com

Here’s the Wikipedia write-up for the missile. Compared to anything Hamas or Hezbollah has fielded to date, the Fatah-110 is longer ranged, more accurate, and has a heavier payload.

47 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:16:29pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

I wonder if those were the ones in the famous Iranian missile test photoshop of 2008?

48 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:18:09pm

re: #47 jaunte

I wonder if those were the ones in the famous Iranian missile test photoshop of 2008?

Possibly. This type of missile really does exist, though. The good news is that Syria doesn’t have the latest version, which Iran only rolled out last August.

49 Bubblehead II  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:18:35pm

Night Lizards. As usual, May The Dieaty Smile Doen Upon You.

50 Ming  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:18:43pm

re: #44 jaunte

Omigod. 300 kilometers! I wonder how much of Israel would have been targetable.

51 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:19:03pm

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

Ah, this says those were Shahab-3s. 1,300 kilometre range.
afp.google.com

52 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:20:11pm

re: #50 Ming

Most of the inhabited area, seems like.

53 Cap'n Magic  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:26:49pm

Earth to Andrea: when girls start to menstruate, they are no longer girls, they are women, regardless of the legal constrictions.

54 Romantic Heretic  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:27:41pm

re: #16 ProBosniaLiberal

I’m genuinely shocked.

I thought the Age of Consent in Arkansas would be 12.

No age of consent. Rather speed of consent. If a woman gets caught she’s consented. ///

55 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:40:29pm

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

That’s joke. I’ve heard that with Missouri, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia.

56 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:42:38pm

re: #55 ProBosniaLiberal

That’s joke. I’ve heard that with Missouri, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia.

I don’t get it.

57 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:56:10pm

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

No age of consent. Rather speed of consent. If a woman gets caught she’s consented. ///

When I was younger it went: “What do you call a 12 year old Georgia virgin? An Olympics champion runner.”

58 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:56:54pm

re: #57 William Barnett-Lewis

When I was younger it went: “What do you call a 12 year old Georgia virgin? An Olympics champion runner.”

That really is distorted and unfair, you know.

59 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 4, 2013 7:59:33pm

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

That really is distorted and unfair, you know.

Of course it is. Teen-aged boys dissing the south? Would it be anything else? And that’s the clean version…

60 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:04:12pm

re: #59 William Barnett-Lewis

Of course it is. Teen-aged boys dissing the south? Would it be anything else? And that’s the clean version…

The dirty one presumably uses the word ‘fuck’ and contains some reference to being impregnated. Am I right?

61 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:13:56pm

Oops.

62 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:18:36pm

Well crap.. NRA’s Lapierre declares we will never surrender our guns.
usnews.nbcnews.com

Nobody is asking you to surrender your precious firearms you dumb fuck,,
We are asking for tighter regulations to prevent those that shouldn’t own a gun because of mental issues or legal problems..
Wayne you dumb fuck are you that terrified of a Gov’t database? Your home, your car, Financial status, legal standing and records, Marriage status, Children, tax status are all on record and rightly so..
But God forbid a deadly weapon is exempt from records and regulation.
Fuck you Wayne..You make me sick..The Black helicopters aren’t coming for your weapons.

63 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:29:33pm

re: #62 HoosierHoops


I just think this is what some of these people are coming to…
64 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:31:26pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

The dirty one presumably uses the word ‘fuck’ and contains some reference to being impregnated. Am I right?

The dirty versions usually, with us anyway, had the implication that to remain a virgin she’d have to be an orphan.

65 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:32:17pm

re: #64 William Barnett-Lewis

The dirty versions usually, with us anyway, had the implication that to remain a virgin she’d have to be an orphan.

Ah, the famous ‘southern inbreeding’ gambit.

66 wrenchwench  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:35:01pm
67 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:36:52pm

re: #62 HoosierHoops

Alas, the world is full of dumb-fucks.

Humans tend to not be rational much of the time. Most of life is led instinctually, and for great apes that means territory and mating opportunities.

68 sagehen  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:37:45pm

re: #50 Ming

Omigod. 300 kilometers! I wonder how much of Israel would have been targetable.

All of it.

69 PT Barnum  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:41:19pm

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

Ah, the famous ‘southern inbreeding’ gambit.

Pillow talk in Arkansas: “Sis, you awake?”

70 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:44:49pm

re: #69 PT Barnum

Pillow talk in Arkansas: “Sis, you awake?”

Mother to son who’s just gotten engaged: “What do you mean she’s a virgin? Son, if she ain’t good enough for her own kin, she certainly ain’t good enough for our’n.”

71 PT Barnum  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:46:19pm

“Son, why did you kill yer wife on yer weddin’ night?”
“She was a virgin an’ I figgered if she weren’ good enuf fer her own family, she weren’t good enuf for our’n”

72 PT Barnum  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:46:36pm

re: #70 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Mother to son who’s just gotten engaged: “What do you mean she’s a virgin? Son, if she ain’t good enough for her own kin, she certainly ain’t good enough for our’n.”

Beat me to it.

73 PT Barnum  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:48:54pm

To any that knew about it..Father in law is recovered and I got a new gig Friday.

74 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:50:26pm

re: #73 PT Barnum

To any that knew about it..Father in law is recovered and I got a new gig Friday.

Praise the Lord. Finally some good news.

75 PT Barnum  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:52:14pm

re: #74 Dark_Falcon

Praise the Lord. Finally some good news.

He’s been moved to a nursing home temporarily to rebuild his strength and we’re hoping to move him back to the assisted living place in another month or so

76 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:56:00pm

re: #73 PT Barnum

To any that knew about it..Father in law is recovered and I got a new gig Friday.

WOOOT! And congratulations!

77 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 8:57:08pm

This chick is disgusting and screw her.

But just remember, the wingnuts also hate the Obama’s for bring a perfect, in-tact nuclear family. They are living the traditional values that so many of them claim to uphold and they will never forgive the Obamas for this. Especially, because of the contrast that was created between the white trash Palins back in 2008.

Barack Obama would not have been asked to be anyone’s VP with a pregnant 17 year old daughter.

78 Lidane  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:00:36pm

re: #77 moderatelyradicalliberal

Barack Obama would not have been asked to be anyone’s VP with a pregnant 17 year old daughter.

And Palin wouldn’t have been asked to be VP if McCain had had a spine. I will never forgive him for foisting Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods on the rest of us.

79 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:04:55pm

re: #78 Lidane

And Palin wouldn’t have been asked to be VP if McCain had had a spine. I will never forgive him for foisting Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods on the rest of us.

I won’t either and not just for her alone. What Palin whipped up at the 2008 campaign rallies was the precursor for the Tea Party. I thought GWB and his administration were the worst that the GOP had to offer, but I was wrong. The had much, much worse to unleash on America and John McCain made it OK but giving Snowbilly Snookie a platform.

80 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:05:16pm

re: #50 Ming

Omigod. 300 kilometers! I wonder how much of Israel would have been targetable.

Well, the country is less than 500 km long, north to south, so quite a bit.

81 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:06:04pm

re: #80 SanFranciscoZionist

So HAPPY so see you!
{{{SFV}}}

82 Lidane  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:06:50pm

re: #80 SanFranciscoZionist

SFZ! Great to see you again! :)

83 AlexRogan  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:09:43pm

re: #80 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, the country is less than 500 km long, north to south, so quite a bit.

Holy shitballs!!!

Damn, we’ve missed you, SFZ; I hope all is well.

84 bratwurst  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:16:50pm

Anyone want to see Glenn Beck show off an image of the Jewish mayor of New York portrayed as a Nazi for the NRA rally?

85 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:17:39pm

re: #80 SanFranciscoZionist

Ah, good to have you back. Glad I stayed up tonight :)

86 jaunte  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:19:42pm

re: #84 bratwurst

Maybe Beck will eat a Big Gulp of salt in protest.

87 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:22:26pm

re: #77 moderatelyradicalliberal

This chick is disgusting and screw her.

But just remember, the wingnuts also hate the Obama’s for bring a perfect, in-tact nuclear family. They are living the traditional values that so many of them claim to uphold and they will never forgive the Obamas for this. Especially, because of the contrast that was created between the white trash Palins back in 2008.

Barack Obama would not have been asked to be anyone’s VP with a pregnant 17 year old daughter.

You’d have been fine, if not for the ‘white trash’ line, which was ugly unneeded, and smug.

88 Stanghazi  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:24:23pm

Hey-o SFZ!

89 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:25:59pm

re: #84 bratwurst

The NRA and Glenn Beck - a marriage made in heaven Tartarus.

90 Vicious Babushka  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:38:16pm

Just watched Argo. I remember that caper, but did not know any of the details (which, according to the end scroll, were not declassified until 1997)

91 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:39:15pm

One of the plentitude of dumb-fucks that inhabit our world:

Letter: Obama is worse than Nixon

President Richard Nixon covered up Watergate. Yet no one died. Nixon resigned. President Barack Obama is covering up Benghazi. Four people died. Shouldn’t Obama resign?

Christine Kohlrus
Springfield

And another:

Letter: Obama is a coward; all talk and no action

I can’t tell you how proud America should be to see President Obama back down from his red line statement. North Korea and Iran now know that Obama is a coward who is all talk and no action. So Americans at home and abroad should take whatever measures necessary to protect themselves, knowing that Obama will do nothing to protect them on our soil or foreign soil.

North Korea and Iran now know that if they want to develop nuclear weapons, they are free to do so, because Obama will do nothing to stop them.

Just imagine how emboldened terrorists all around the world will be knowing that the president of the United States of America is all talk and no action. Doesn’t that make you feel safe at night?

Joe Weaver

Cheektowaga

All this chairborne bravado - it must make them feel good.

92 Vicious Babushka  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:41:12pm

For G-D sake these people are fucking demented

93 freetoken  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:44:45pm

Goodhair practicing to be an action hero.


Earlier today I linked to a story about the Texas legislature approving allowing concealed carry of guns onto campuses. However, that is just the tip of the iceberg of the gun-gasm today:

Saturday special: Texas House votes for easier, wider access to guns

Aptly starting at high noon Saturday, the House passed 13 bills to make guns easier and cheaper to carry in the state, opening the way for concealed handguns on college campuses and in the hands of marshals at elementary schools.

In a sweeping push, the Republican-dominated House also approved a proposal to nullify new federal gun control laws. The law would prompt the Texas attorney general to sue and pursue hefty fines against a police chief, district attorney or any other public official who tried to enforce such laws.

In that Firearms Protection Act, lawmakers ignored constitutional questions to push back against national ruminations on expanded background checks and assault-rifle bans.

[…]

94 Gus  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:53:15pm
95 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, May 4, 2013 9:57:27pm

I am SO offended, I made a VERY local page. Yeah, the local Presbyterian hospital joined a Catholic hospital group, but banning elective abortions has NOTHING to do with that.
*SPIT*

96 darthstar  Sat, May 4, 2013 10:24:02pm

Giants won…again.

97 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Sat, May 4, 2013 10:24:04pm

Sorry to go OT. I Just got back from the Grocery (late night craving) but according to the ‘women’s’ magazines-and I have yet to verify this-Khloe Kardashian is FINALLY BACK IN A BIKINI!11!!
I have seen nothing about this on the news. Stupid lame-stream media.

98 LWNJ  Sat, May 4, 2013 10:25:44pm

re: #90 Vicious Babushka

Just watched Argo. I remember that caper, but did not know any of the details (which, according to the end scroll, were not declassified until 1997)

I enjoyed the movie too, but it has very little relation to what really happened. (Read the book, if you’re interested.)

99 darthstar  Sat, May 4, 2013 10:26:09pm

re: #94 Gus

The Trashmen - Surfin’ Bird

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I went surfing today…yeah, my eyes are closed in this pic, but I’m feeling pretty good…and yes, the wetsuit adds 40 lbs.

Image: 525290_10151598837848024_472310811_n.jpg

100 darthstar  Sat, May 4, 2013 10:27:20pm

re: #99 darthstar

And no, the Z is not a good car for racking a 9’4” surfboard..but I make do.

101 Gus  Sat, May 4, 2013 10:28:16pm

re: #99 darthstar

I went surfing today…yeah, my eyes are closed in this pic, but I’m feeling pretty good…and yes, the wetsuit adds 40 lbs.

Image: 525290_10151598837848024_472310811_n.jpg

Nissan?

102 Gus  Sat, May 4, 2013 10:29:17pm

As soon as I’m good to go I’m getting in my GTI and flooring the SOB to 127 MPH. Heck yeah!

103 darthstar  Sat, May 4, 2013 10:31:38pm

re: #101 Gus

Nissan?

Yeah…I call it my mid-life crisis car…my wife made me buy it. I wanted a Civic. But I do like Zed (that’s what we call it). The downside is we have two two seaters (the 350Z and a Smart car) along with our AWD BMW. I want a full-size SUV or a truck…so either the Smart or the Z have to go…tough choice. Wife likes the wagon. I also want a boat. I have lots of wants, but now that it’s salmon season, the boat is back at the top of the list.

104 Gus  Sat, May 4, 2013 10:35:02pm

re: #103 darthstar

Yeah…I call it my mid-life crisis car…my wife made me buy it. I wanted a Civic. But I do like Zed (that’s what we call it). The downside is we have two two seaters (the 350Z and a Smart car) along with our AWD BMW. I want a full-size SUV or a truck…so either the Smart or the Z have to go…tough choice. Wife likes the wagon. I also want a boat. I have lots of wants, but now that it’s salmon season, the boat is back at the top of the list.

They have Z clubs around here. Saw a bunch of them on my last trip to Rocky Mountain National Park. Not sure if that’s current. I rented a Sentra once and that thing had a lot of power. The GTI only needs a new battery every two years. Damn thing has been good to me.

105 Gus  Sat, May 4, 2013 10:36:17pm

Might be reaching a hump here. Knock on wood.

106 Single-handed sailor  Sat, May 4, 2013 10:51:23pm

re: #103 darthstar

You know what a boat is, don’t you? A hole in the water you throw money into.

107 Flavia  Sat, May 4, 2013 10:57:27pm

re: #77 moderatelyradicalliberal

This chick is disgusting and screw her.

But just remember, the wingnuts also hate the Obama’s for bring a perfect, in-tact nuclear family. They are living the traditional values that so many of them claim to uphold and they will never forgive the Obamas for this. Especially, because of the contrast that was created between the white trash Palins back in 2008.

Barack Obama would not have been asked to be anyone’s VP with a pregnant 17 year old daughter.

And remember how they all righteously insisted that Palin’s failure of parenting not be mentioned - or, as they out it, “respecting the privacy of the Palin family”? Everyone who’s shocked at the hypocrisy, stand on your heads!

(& was she 17? I thought she was 16…? Well, either way!)

108 Gus  Sat, May 4, 2013 10:57:32pm
109 Amory Blaine  Sat, May 4, 2013 10:58:30pm

The happiest day in a mans life is the day he buys his boat.

The second happiest is the day he sells it.

110 Gus  Sat, May 4, 2013 11:01:37pm
111 prairiefire  Sat, May 4, 2013 11:10:36pm

re: #80 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, the country is less than 500 km long, north to south, so quite a bit.

~~smooooooch~~

112 Gus  Sat, May 4, 2013 11:16:59pm
113 Gus  Sat, May 4, 2013 11:20:34pm
115 Gus  Sat, May 4, 2013 11:53:15pm
116 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sun, May 5, 2013 12:25:55am

Bury the Bottle With Me

117 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sun, May 5, 2013 12:27:28am

God Isn’t Real

118 Bubblehead II  Sun, May 5, 2013 4:14:58am

Morning Lizards.

119 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 5, 2013 4:18:00am

Good morning lizards!

120 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 5, 2013 4:24:29am

Israel deploys Iron Dome in North amid Syria tensions

The IDF has deployed two Iron Dome batteries to northern cities due to regional tensions following air strikes in Damascus which foreign sources have attributed to the Israel Air Force.

In recent days, one battery has been stationed in Haifa, while another has been placed in Safed, a senior defense source said. The source stressed that “this is not the first time that the systems have been deployed to the North.”

121 Bubblehead II  Sun, May 5, 2013 4:24:36am

Starting to looks like that clip of an explosion is Syria last night was another Israeli air Strike.

Syrian military site hit by fresh Israeli strike early Sunday

The Syrian report claimed Israeli rockets hit a military research site on the outskirts of the capital at about 2 a.m., and smoke could be seen rising from the area. An unnamed Israeli official told AFP the target was a shipment of Iranian made Fatah-110 missiles that were on their way from Syria to Hezbollah terrorists.

122 BongCrodny  Sun, May 5, 2013 4:37:52am

re: #117 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

God Isn’t Real

[Embedded content]

My admiration knows no bounds for Robbie Fulks — musically.

Anyone trying to make it in Nashville who can write a song like “God Isn’t Real” has to either have the world’s biggest pair of cojones or be a complete idiot.

Politically, I read that Fulks is a big-time libertarian, so if you choose option (b), I completely understand.

123 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 4:38:07am

re: #107 Flavia

And remember how they all righteously insisted that Palin’s failure of parenting not be mentioned - or, as they out it, “respecting the privacy of the Palin family”? Everyone who’s shocked at the hypocrisy, stand on your heads!

(& was she 17? I thought she was 16…? Well, either way!)

Yes, Bristol Palin was 17 at the time of the 2008 Republican Nation Convention.

124 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 5, 2013 4:48:52am

re: #121 Bubblehead II

Starting to looks like that clip of an explosion is Syria last night was another Israeli air Strike.

Syrian military site hit by fresh Israeli strike early Sunday

The Syrian report claimed Israeli rockets hit a military research site on the outskirts of the capital at about 2 a.m., and smoke could be seen rising from the area. An unnamed Israeli official told AFP the target was a shipment of Iranian made Fatah-110 missiles that were on their way from Syria to Hezbollah terrorists.

Syria has already called israel’s attack a declaration of war and said they will respond. I don’t know what they think they can do. Assad’s military seems to have their hands full right now.

125 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Sun, May 5, 2013 4:52:19am

re: #124 NJDhockeyfan

They’re trying to get sympathy from the other Arab states and turn this not into a Syria vs. rebels but Muslims vs. Israel thing. This is the danger of Israel’s strikes, of making the rebels seem aligned with Israel, and making other Muslim states lower their opposition to Assad. I don’t think it’ll work— just as the Muslim states by and large didn’t fall for Saddam’s attack on Israel as broadening the conflict— but it’s a risk.

126 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 4:57:05am

re: #125 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

They’re trying to get sympathy from the other Arab states and turn this not into a Syria vs. rebels but Muslims vs. Israel thing. This is the danger of Israel’s strikes, of making the rebels seem aligned with Israel, and making other Muslim states lower their opposition to Assad. I don’t think it’ll work— just as the Muslim states by and large didn’t fall for Saddam’s attack on Israel as broadening the conflict— but it’s a risk.

Agreed, but I must also point out that sometimes risks simply have to be run. Israel determined that Hezbollah having a ready supply of Fatah-110s was an intolerable security threat. Given that level of threat, Israel often needs to undertake unilateral action.

127 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Sun, May 5, 2013 5:00:17am

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

I’m unclear on the motive Assad would have in giving Hezbollah the missiles, though. If you’re involved in a civil war, why would you give away weapons?

128 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Sun, May 5, 2013 5:02:09am

More NYC racial profiling alleged.

“From 2003 through 2011, 87.0 percent of people arrested and charged under § 221.10 for possessing marijuana ‘burning or open to public view’ in New York City were either black or Latino,” the complaint states. “Conversely, only 10.2 percent were white. The disparity is even more acute in the Bronx, where the DCJS records show that 95.4 percent of all persons arrested and charged under §221.10 were either black or Latino. Meanwhile, studies show that between 2002 and 2009, among persons between the ages of 18 and 25, a greater percentage of whites used marijuana than either blacks or Latinos.”
As in the Floyd case, all of the plaintiffs are black and Latino men who claim police racially profiled them because of pressure to meet quotas.
“As a result of this quota system, and the perverse incentives it imposes, some NYPD officers have developed a policy, practice and custom of lying on criminal complaints - including plaintiffs’ - so as to ‘justify’ charging a misdemeanor rather than a violation,” the complaint states.

One stupid side effect of the quota system is that these cases often wind up getting dismissed, because the cops don’t have a quota for convictions, just for arrests.

So it’s an enormous, racist waste of money.

129 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 5:05:34am

re: #127 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

I’m unclear on the motive Assad would have in giving Hezbollah the missiles, though. If you’re involved in a civil war, why would you give away weapons?

Hezbollah is supplying Assad with troops and some of those troops are trainers for his Alawite militias. Most likely these weapons are intended as a form of payment. They are also likely intended to help members of the Assad regime secure a bolthole, should they need one.

130 Bubblehead II  Sun, May 5, 2013 5:06:01am

re: #127 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

I’m unclear on the motive Assad would have in giving Hezbollah the missiles, though. If you’re involved in a civil war, why would you give away weapons?

Perhaps it isn’t Assad who is giving them to Hezbollah but Iran. Syria has long been a willing conduit for Iran to arm Hezbolla.

131 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 5:12:46am

re: #128 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

More NYC racial profiling alleged.

In reply, I’d point out that the offense in question is “possessing marijuana ‘burning or open to public view’”, not just simple possession. I can entirely believe that such an offense is committed for frequently by blacks or Latinos: They are more likely to be poor and less likely to have an indoor area in which to smoke the weed. Moreover, police foot patrols are the heaviest in high-crime areas, which are often areas inhibited by blacks or Latinos.

132 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 5, 2013 5:25:23am

re: #61 jaunte

Concealed carry ninja scares the shit out of everyone at the movies, but says he forgot he had the gun. And knife.

What kind of world are we living in when you cannot carry concealed weapons to a public place without freaking people out?

If everyone else had been armed, they would have had no reason to be afraid.

/

133 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 5:29:44am

re: #132 Sol Berdinowitz

What kind of world are we living in when you cannot carry concealed weapons to a public place without freaking people out?

If everyone else had been armed, they would have had no reason to be afraind.

/

The real point of concealing them is actually to avoid freaking people out.

134 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, May 5, 2013 5:31:10am

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

In reply, I’d point out that the offense in question is “possessing marijuana ‘burning or open to public view’”, not just simple possession. I can entirely believe that such an offense is committed for frequently by blacks or Latinos: They are more likely to be poor and less likely to have an indoor area in which to smoke the weed. Moreover, police foot patrols are the heaviest in high-crime areas, which are often areas inhibited by blacks or Latinos.

Painting with a rather broad brush, there.

135 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 5, 2013 5:41:33am

re: #98 LWNJ

I enjoyed the movie too, but it has very little relation to what really happened. (Read the book, if you’re interested.)

Yeah, I kind of figured that

they did not drive on to the tarmac to outrun a 747 taking off.

136 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 5:42:05am

re: #134 wheat-dogghazi

Painting with a rather broad brush, there.

So does the quote Obdi used. I also posted that at 7:12am CDT, and I had not been up for a full hour at that point.

137 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, May 5, 2013 6:08:42am

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

So does the quote Obdi used. I also posted that at 7:12am CDT, and I had not been up for a full hour at that point.

Needz moar coffee?

138 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, May 5, 2013 6:24:06am

re: #21 bratwurst

Israel’s many haters online are already engaging in a form of fauxtography tonight:

JEW LASERS!!! PEW PEW RENDERING ARAB MEN STERILE! Or something.

139 Flounder  Sun, May 5, 2013 6:35:14am

Sticky buns are up, get them while they’re hot, oh , and the food is hot too.
Good morning lizards!

140 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, May 5, 2013 6:42:21am

The Syrian Civil War has turned into a mess. Wikipedia gives a real simple summary of this in the info box.

See all the guys in the Red Box? They are all against Assad, but not necessarily with each other.Some of them have even fought against each other.

141 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 6:43:54am

re: #137 wheat-dogghazi

Needz moar coffee?

No, just time. I don’t drink coffee, and I haven’t got any caffeine in my unit. So I had to do without a kickstart today and just wait while my brain booted up.

142 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 5, 2013 6:50:33am

re: #140 ProBosniaLiberal

The Syrian Civil War has turned into a mess. Wikipedia gives a real simple summary of this in the info box.

See all the guys in the Red Box? They are all against Assad, but not necessarily with each other.Some of them have even fought against each other.

It’s the nature of wars to turn into messes. That’s why you get jumped when you recommend interventions.

143 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Sun, May 5, 2013 6:59:52am

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

In reply, I’d point out that the offense in question is “possessing marijuana ‘burning or open to public view’”, not just simple possession. I can entirely believe that such an offense is committed for frequently by blacks or Latinos: They are more likely to be poor and less likely to have an indoor area in which to smoke the weed. Moreover, police foot patrols are the heaviest in high-crime areas, which are often areas inhibited by blacks or Latinos.

Did you bother to read the link at all?

144 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:08:19am

re: #143 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

Did you bother to read the link at all?

No. I just wanted to get a quick reply in.

145 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:13:20am

Mornin’ everyone.

146 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:14:29am

re: #145 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone.

Hello.

147 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:17:39am

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

In reply, I’d point out that the offense in question is “possessing marijuana ‘burning or open to public view’”, not just simple possession. I can entirely believe that such an offense is committed for frequently by blacks or Latinos: They are more likely to be poor and less likely to have an indoor area in which to smoke the weed. Moreover, police foot patrols are the heaviest in high-crime areas, which are often areas inhibited by blacks or Latinos.

Well, seeing as how they live in grass huts and cook over an open fire and let their kids play in the dirt naked all day…yeah, I looked at the pictures in my parents’ National Geographic when I was a kid.

Seriously…you’re using racial profiling to defend racial profiling?

148 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:18:47am

re: #146 Dark_Falcon

Hello.

Dude…that quick reply upthread in 131…I don’t even know where to begin. Holy fuck.

149 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:19:43am

The New York Times has a report today on the Chicago-style corruption in Spain that helped put that nation in such dire fiscal straits:

In the good times, the former mayor of this small, wind-swept village of 5,000 in northern Spain was busy building: the olive oil museum, the wind museum, the museum of life. If that were not enough, there was the new bullring, the sports center with 25,000 seats and the zoo with the exotic-bird park.

The former mayor, María Victoria Pinilla, seemed to be prospering personally, as well. Three stately houses took shape on her family plot. There was an apartment in Madrid, a beach house and a vacation home in the Dominican Republic next to Julio Iglesias’.

Now, however, the fence outside the former mayor’s family compound is in disrepair and half-built housing developments lie abandoned on the outskirts of the village. And last month, Ms. Pinilla, 57, became just one more in a growing throng of political officials in Spain to face corruption charges.

Investigators calculate that she and other family members accumulated about $24 million, mostly from shady land deals during Spain’s boom years. Searching her property, the police had to borrow a bill-counting machine from a local bank to help total up all the cash: $485,000.

For decades, corruption was accepted in Southern Europe as a fact of life, a way to distribute the spoils, and few people — including, in many cases, prosecutors — gave it a second thought. But the grinding economic crisis, which stalled projects and ended the flow of cash, has helped lift the veil on corrupt officials, exposing graft, bribery, payoffs, secret favors and other misdeeds on a scale that few imagined.

Standard Disclaimer: “Chicago-style corruption” is a reference by this author (a life-long Cook County resident who was born and grew up in Chicago) to Chicago’s corrupt political culture. It does not refer to Barack Obama in any way, shape, or form.

150 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:20:50am

re: #147 darthstar

Darthstar, you’re seeing things that aren’t there.

151 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:23:57am

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

Darthstar, you’re seeing things that aren’t there.

I see stereotyping.

152 Varek Raith  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:24:05am
153 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:26:49am

re: #152 Varek Raith

infoplease.com

You and your facts just pissed on my joint. Damn I wish I had an indoor area.

154 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:28:23am

re: #152 Varek Raith

infoplease.com

I wasn’t arguing overall usage. I was arguing about circumstances that might make it more likely for a black or latino person to get caught smoking weed out in the open. Or at least I was trying to.

155 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:32:11am

re: #147 darthstar

Well, seeing as how they live in grass huts and cook over an open fire and let their kids play in the dirt naked all day…yeah, I looked at the pictures in my parents’ National Geographic when I was a kid.

Seriously…you’re using racial profiling to defend racial profiling?

That’s not necessarily racial profiling: that is just statistics. Look at employment rates, incarceration rates and general housing for blacks and Latinos.

156 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:33:13am

re: #124 NJDhockeyfan

Syria has already called israel’s attack a declaration of war and said they will respond. I don’t know what they think they can do. Assad’s military seems to have their hands full right now.

I think an outright military conflict is unlikely but Iran’s terrorist proxy groups will act if ordered. Assad’s declaration of war could just mean missile launches from Lebanon, Gaza and now possibly from Sinai. Also bombings and terrorist attacks against Israeli diplomats, tourists and soft targets internationally.

157 A Mom Anon  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:45:34am

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

Chicago doesn’t have a lock on big cities full of cronyism and political corruption. These days invoking “Chicago-style politics” is a dogwhistle to imply the President is corrupt.

I’ve lived in a few big cities in my life, ALL of them suffered from some the same sort of crap that Chicago gets labelled with. Atlanta is a mess, Columbus, Ohio wasn’t a hell of a lot better. Miami and Tampa are both horrid in their own ways too. Part of the problem is that people don’t pay attention to who they are really voting for and what interests those people are beholden to.

158 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:50:23am

re: #157 A Mom Anon

Chicago doesn’t have a lock on big cities full of cronyism and political corruption. These days invoking “Chicago-style politics” is a dogwhistle to imply the President is corrupt.

Sshhh…we’re all pretending DF doesn’t already know that and is sincerely not making passive-aggressive digs at the President.

159 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:50:42am

re: #157 A Mom Anon

Chicago doesn’t have a lock on big cities full of cronyism and political corruption. These days invoking “Chicago-style politics” is a dogwhistle to imply the President is corrupt.

I’ve lived in a few big cities in my life, ALL of them suffered from some the same sort of crap that Chicago gets labelled with. Atlanta is a mess, Columbus, Ohio wasn’t a hell of a lot better. Miami and Tampa are both horrid in their own ways too. Part of the problem is that people don’t pay attention to who they are really voting for and what interests those people are beholden to.

I know other cities have problems, but Chicago’s are legendary, and that was true long before Barack Obama won the Democratic nomination for the Senate in Illinois in 2004.

Further, those other cites are not my city, and Chicago is. I have lived in and around Chicago my whole life, and I do not criticize her corruption because I hate her, as some ruralists do; I criticize because I love her and wish to see her made better.

160 Varek Raith  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:57:22am

re: #158 darthstar

Sshhh…we’re all pretending DF doesn’t already know that and is sincerely not making passive-aggressive digs at the President.

Could you all pretend that I’m awesome?
That would be great.
Thanks.
/

161 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 7:58:28am

re: #158 darthstar

Sshhh…we’re all pretending DF doesn’t already know that and is sincerely not making passive-aggressive digs at the President.

Here’s the difference between me and those ruralist wingnuts: I have to live with the damage Chicago’s corruption causes. What for them is a excuse to get their hate on is for me a very real problem. So no, Darth, I’m not like them. My use of the term “Chicago-style Corruption” preceded Barack Obama’s running for the presidency, and it will continue after he leaves office.

162 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:05:40am

re: #161 Dark_Falcon

Here’s the difference between me and those ruralist wingnuts: I have to live with the damage Chicago’s corruption causes. What for them is a excuse to get their hate on is for me a very real problem. So no, Darth, I’m not like them. My use of the term “Chicago-style Corruption” preceded Barack Obama’s running for the presidency, and it will continue after he leaves office.

Okay…how have you been personally impacted by Chicago-style pizzaCorruption? It’s such a big term and you often rant about it, so what have the Chicago-style corrupters done to make your life miserable recently?

163 dragonath  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:07:33am

re: #162 darthstar

Okay…how have you been personally impacted by Chicago-style pizzaCorruption? It’s such a big term and you often rant about it, so what have the Chicago-style corrupters done to make your life miserable recently?

Didn’t Dark say he voted Democrat for the water board? Those sneaky liberals, caring about water quality and all.

164 KiTA  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:07:42am

re: #40 PT Barnum

I do not understand for a minute why these people delight so much in being ignorant dumbfucks.

It’s the “lets disagree with Liberals” thing. Like how if you mention a light bulb is environmentally friendly, statistically speaking Republicans refuse to buy it out of spite.

That’s how their mindset has devolved to after 20 years of talking points and faux outrage.

And after all, “Science” is what those godless heathen commie liberals use to point out flaws in their arguments, disprove their talking points, and generally deny their worldview — so har har har, science iz dumb, AM I RITE?!

165 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:09:08am

re: #161 Dark_Falcon

Here’s the difference between me and those ruralist wingnuts:

I do find it refreshing that you no longer deny completely that you’re a wingnut…just that you’re a civilized, educated, khaki-wearing urban one and not some uneducated, denim-wearing hillbilly.

166 Bubblehead II  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:09:17am

re: #164 KiTA

Morning.

167 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:10:02am

re: #162 darthstar

Okay…how have you been personally impacted by Chicago-style pizzaCorruption? It’s such a big term and you often rant about it, so what have the Chicago-style corrupters done to make your life miserable recently?

For starters, it inflates the city’s expenses so much that the city hasn’t been able to hire the number of police it needs. That helps contribute to crime, which is a factor for everyone, even downtown.

Chicago’s corruption hasn’t “made my life miserable”, but it has at times made it worse.

168 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:12:27am

re: #167 Dark_Falcon

For starters, it inflates the city’s expense so much that the city hasn’t been able to hire the number of police it needs. That helps contribute to crime, which is a factor for everyone, even downtown.

Chicago’s corruption hasn’t “made my life miserable”, but it has at times made it worse.

I have to agree with Dark on this one. Corruption hurts everyone (except the ones collecting the bribes).

169 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:13:04am

re: #167 Dark_Falcon

For starters, it inflates the city’s expense so much that the city hasn’t been able to hire the number of police it needs. That helps contribute to crime, which is a factor for everyone, even downtown.

You’re not talking about corruption, you’re talking about unions. Unions aren’t the problem. Just pay more in taxes and you’ll be able to afford them.

170 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:14:53am

re: #163 dragonath

Didn’t Dark say he voted Democrat for the water board? Those sneaky liberals, caring about water quality and all.

I have at times voted for Democrats for the Chicago Metropolitan Water Reclamation District (2012 was one of those times). I do this because I feel that the organization is competently and honestly led, and I am willing to vote for a Democrat who has already delivered that. Also because the people in charge of the water aren’t political beyond water and zoning issues.

171 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:15:56am

re: #169 darthstar

You’re not talking about corruption, you’re talking about unions. Unions aren’t the problem. Just pay more in taxes and you’ll be able to afford them.

No, I’m not. Do you understand how corruption can inflate a government’s cost of functioning?

172 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:16:44am
173 Gus  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:19:11am

re: #172 darthstar

Howard Kurtz is on Reliable Sources. We must destroy him! What with freedom of speech and all. //

174 dragonath  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:19:12am

re: #161 Dark_Falcon

Chicago style corruption, eh? All that does is remind me when Larry King was criticizing the presidents submission of Chicago for the Olympics while ignoring the galactic murder rate in Rio.

No one ever uses the term “Texas Sized Corruption” in association with foreign or domestic national issues.

175 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:19:46am

re: #171 Dark_Falcon

No, I’m not. Do you understand how corruption can inflate a government’s cost of functioning?

Hey, at least you’re getting a new casino…those things are great for the local economy and reduce crime.

176 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:22:51am

re: #157 A Mom Anon

Chicago doesn’t have a lock on big cities full of cronyism and political corruption. These days invoking “Chicago-style politics” is a dogwhistle to imply the President is corrupt.

This is not going after you, AMA, but I also want to say that I am angry as well with the damn ruralist wingnuts who took Chicago’s real problems and turned them into a buzzword to stoke their hatred of Barack Obama. Nothing I have ever read has ever suggested to me that Barack Obama has ever engaged in any corrupt activity. But that doesn’t stop the haters, who again ignore real issues in order to wave their guns* in the air and shout slogans. Fuck them.

*: “Fists” or “penises” may be substituted for “guns” if desired

177 Varek Raith  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:23:01am

Internets thread sniping FTW!
:P

178 A Mom Anon  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:23:03am

re: #168 Iwouldprefernotto

Yep. Atlanta Public Schools are going through a huge scandal right now, but the news is also treating this as though Atlanta is the only place in the state that’s dealing with that level of corruption. Umm, no, that is rampant in the suburbs too, but no one will lift a finger to investigate outside of Fulton county. The kids suffer, their education is made effectively useless by such crap and it ends up costing everyone in the long term, not just the kids. We’ve had two counties nearly or completely lose accreditation for a host of reasons, and the blame hilariously gets placed on unions. In GA 5% of teachers are in a union that actually has any bargaining power. The rest belong to an “association of educators” that is really nothing more than a professional club of sorts. Now the whole charter school thing is gaining traction as a solution, and those are proving to be even less effective than the public schools. All because a few people used standardized testing and attached money and perks to good test scores instead of allowing teacher to actually teach and prep kids for life outside of K-12.

179 Gus  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:24:44am

re: #177 Varek Raith

Internets thread sniping FTW!
:P

I demand protection from offensive content! // :D

180 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:25:27am

re: #175 darthstar

Hey, at least you’re getting a new casino…those things are great for the local economy and reduce crime.

Don’t try to joke your way out of it. Just admit that I understood what I was talking about with comment #167.

181 Varek Raith  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:26:39am

Spaceship pr0n.
Image: gnosis1.png

182 A Mom Anon  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:27:06am

I have to run for now, this rain has caused the pool to overflow and I need to flip on the pump and get rid of some of this water before it runs down into the garage area.

183 Gus  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:27:28am

“Program has stopped responding…”

Screams with rage.

184 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:30:47am

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

Don’t try to joke your way out of it. Just admit that I understood what I was talking about with comment #167.

#167 is a general statement about corruption, but with no specific example to support the corruption you see. I did a five second pan of Google and saw a headline talking about a new casino and how ‘corruption and lack of oversight’ are a concern. If anything, I gave you cover as you now have an answer to my question in #162.

So, you’re welcome. A little ‘thank you’ would be nice. Even ruralists say thank you.

185 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:31:36am

re: #181 Varek Raith

Spaceship pr0n.
Image: gnosis1.png

Looks like it’d be a pain in the ass to parallel park.

186 Varek Raith  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:32:24am

re: #185 darthstar

Looks like it’d be a pain in the ass to parallel park.

That’s where its’ stats come in.

25% bonus to Medium Energy, Hybrid and Projectile Turret damage
25% bonus to Heavy Missiles and Heavy Assault Missiles damage
50% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage dealt by drones
37.5% increase to scan strength of probes

Role Bonus: Can fit Warfare Link modules

187 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:33:47am

re: #186 Varek Raith

That’s where its’ stats come in.

Okay…but can I get it in candy-apple red with some gold spinner-rims?

188 Gus  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:34:16am

I’m beat.

189 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:34:32am

re: #186 Varek Raith

That’s where its’ stats come in.

Sounds like you plan to clear parking space planetside with orbital bombardment.

190 Varek Raith  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:36:14am
191 thedopefishlives  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:36:42am

Morning Lizardim.

192 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:39:06am

re: #190 Varek Raith

eve.wikia.com

Damn…it doesn’t come in red.

193 Joanne  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:39:28am

re: #90 Vicious Babushka

Just watched Argo. I remember that caper, but did not know any of the details (which, according to the end scroll, were not declassified until 1997)

Argo was a great flick, but according to the participants, much was pure fiction. When it happened in real life, they apparently waltzed right through security easy-peasy.

Hit Google. Fascinating info there on the real thing.

194 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:41:00am

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

No. I just wanted to get a quick reply in.

Yeah, read the link.

195 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:41:00am

re: #191 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim.

Good morning. We’re having a bit of a dust up, but I’m afraid you can’t join it. The Army Corps of Engineers and the Chicago Metropolitan Water Reclamation District would have my head if you did. They consider it absolutely essential that the Dopefish be kept far away from Chicago waterways. They’d be worse than zebra mussels if they got into Lake Michigan.

///

196 Varek Raith  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:42:21am

re: #192 darthstar

Damn…it doesn’t come in red.

wiki.eveuniversity.org

197 thedopefishlives  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:42:42am

re: #195 Dark_Falcon

Good morning. We’re having a bit of a dust up, but I’m afraid you can’t join it. The Army Corps of Engineers and the Chicago Metropolitan Water Reclamation District would have my head if you did. They consider it absolutely essential that the Dopefish be kept far away from Chicago waterways. They’d be worse than zebra mussels if they got into Lake Michigan.

///

However, unlike the aforementioned invasive species, there is only one Dopefish.

198 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:44:38am

re: #195 Dark_Falcon

That Asian carp thing is a real threat. If they get settled into Lake Michigan, they’ll decimate other species in a few decades. Fucking invasive species…they’re a pain in the ass.

199 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:46:53am

re: #198 darthstar

That Asian carp thing is a real threat. If they get settled into Lake Michigan, they’ll decimate other species in a few decades. Fucking invasive species…they’re a pain in the ass.

QFT On that, you and I are in perfect accord.

200 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:47:56am

re: #196 Varek Raith

wiki.eveuniversity.org

Why don’t we fly one of these things over and let it hover above the Middle East? That’ll straighten their shit out.

201 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:49:34am

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

QFT On that, you and I are in perfect accord.

Thank you.
see how easy that is?
//

202 Varek Raith  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:49:53am

re: #200 darthstar

Why don’t we fly one of these things over and let it hover above the Middle East? That’ll straighten their shit out.

Let’s go a tad bigger than a cruiser.
Say…
The biggest ships in Eve?
Yeah.
eve-wiki.net

203 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:51:31am
204 Gus  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:53:02am

Twitter is a valuable resource. //

205 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:54:34am

re: #202 Varek Raith

A Titan is currently the largest ship in the game. It requires billions of ISK in materials to build, and can only be constructed in 0.0 Security at a POS Capital Construction Array. A Titan requires the combined efforts of hundreds of people to reasonably build. It also requires considerable amounts of dedicated Skill training time just to be able to pilot it, and much more to competently do so.

Translation: In order to build a Titan you’ll have to spend so much time playing this game that the palm of your hand will think you don’t love it anymore.

206 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:55:46am

re: #204 Gus

Twitter is a valuable resource. //

I look at it as a sustainable resource…always someone new to fuck with. BTW, Dan Kennedy actually RT’d that. Heh.

207 Varek Raith  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:56:26am

Total training time for my character to fly a Caldari Titan;
183 days, 17 hours, 8 minutes, 41 seconds.

208 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:57:36am

re: #207 Varek Raith

Total training time for my character to fly a Caldari Titan;
183 days, 17 hours, 8 minutes, 41 seconds.

Nissan Titan just requires going to the dealership and asking for a test drive.

209 Varek Raith  Sun, May 5, 2013 8:59:32am

re: #208 darthstar

Nissan Titan just requires going to the dealership and asking for a test drive.

Heh.
I could log in to the eve test server and test drive a titan.
:)

210 Lidane  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:02:46am

This is helpful:

211 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:03:29am

re: #193 Joanne

Argo was a great flick, but according to the participants, much was pure fiction. When it happened in real life, they apparently waltzed right through security easy-peasy.

Hit Google. Fascinating info there on the real thing.

That made it much easier on the actual participants blood pressure, but makes for lame movie. The scene where

Revolutionary Guard tries to outrun a 747 on takeoff

was just silly,

in real life the jet wash would have just knocked them right over.

212 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:04:47am

re: #210 Lidane

This is helpful:

It’s Glenn Beck, what are you going to do? He’s an nutcase with no real contact with reality.

213 Gus  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:05:50am

Happy Fifth of Mayonnaise!

214 Lidane  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:07:00am

re: #212 Dark_Falcon

It’s Glenn Beck, what are you going to do? He’s an nutcase with no real contact with reality.

Except that he’s a nutcase speaking in front of a bunch of other nutcases that DO have an influence on a major political party in this country.

Beck is one of the reasons why the GOP can’t have nice things. This kind of bad crazy is destroying any pretense of there being a rational argument on the right side of the aisle.

215 Varek Raith  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:08:21am

re: #211 Vicious Babushka

That made it much easier on the actual participants blood pressure, but makes for lame movie. The scene where

[Embedded content]

More than knocked down.
Here’s what happened when the mythbusters tested it;
Image: t1586308-54-thumb-mythbusters-jetwash2.jpg

216 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:09:34am

re: #214 Lidane

Except that he’s a nutcase speaking in front of a bunch of other nutcases that DO have an influence on a major political party in this country.

Beck is one of the reasons why the GOP can’t have nice things. This kind of bad crazy is destroying any pretense of there being a rational argument on the right side of the aisle.

Officeholders can’t make Beck go away, though. Hell, Fox News let him go and still he’s got a following. You should blame a political party for someone it can’t control who does not serve it in any relevant capacity.

217 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:11:06am

re: #215 Varek Raith

More than knocked down.
Here’s what happened when the mythbusters tested it;
Image: t1586308-54-thumb-mythbusters-jetwash2.jpg

Yes but that would have much more costly without really upping the drama. It would also have shifted the focus from the escape to the special effects. That’s more Michael Bay than Ben Affleck.

218 BongCrodny  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:13:58am

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

Officeholders can’t make Beck go away, though. Hell, Fox News let him go and still he’s got a following. You should blame a political party for someone it can’t control who does not serve it in any relevant capacity.

I can sure blame the Republicans for Louie Gohmert.

219 Lidane  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:13:59am

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

Officeholders can’t make Beck go away, though. Hell, Fox News let him go and still he’s got a following. You should blame a political party for someone it can’t control who does not serve it in any relevant capacity.

The point is, his unhinged ranting and raving has an effect on the GOP’s troglodyte base. Same goes for other nutcases like Alex Jones and El Rushbo. Their idiocy and their Bad Crazy influences the party even if they’re not elected officials. Why do you think the teahadist House is going to try tilting at the Obamacare windmill again when they KNOW it’s going to die in the Senate?

Yes, Beck is relevant. So are Jones, Limbaugh, Coultergeist, and the rest. They’re the ones setting the tone for what passes for conservative in this country and for what kinds of candidates get elected by the GOP. This shit matters.

220 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:14:33am

re: #210 Lidane

This is helpful:

Could Glenn Beck pass a psychological background check for a firearm?

221 Lidane  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:15:03am

re: #220 darthstar

Could Glenn Beck pass a psychological background check for a firearm?

Most likely, yes.

222 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:16:04am

re: #221 Lidane

Most likely, yes.

But not definitely yes. That’s something.

223 Lidane  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:17:00am

re: #222 darthstar

But not definitely yes. That’s something.

He’d pass in Texas. Beck sounds like the rest of the GOP around here.

224 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:20:30am

re: #215 Varek Raith

More than knocked down.
Here’s what happened when the mythbusters tested it;
Image: t1586308-54-thumb-mythbusters-jetwash2.jpg

It would have made a pretty neat scene, actually.

225 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:21:41am

re: #219 Lidane

The point is, his unhinged ranting and raving has an effect on the GOP’s troglodyte base. Same goes for other nutcases like Alex Jones and El Rushbo. Their idiocy and their Bad Crazy influences the party even if they’re not elected officials. Why do you think the teahadist House is going to try tilting at the Obamacare windmill again when they KNOW it’s going to die in the Senate?

Yes, Beck is relevant. So are Jones, Limbaugh, Coultergeist, and the rest. They’re the ones setting the tone for what passes for conservative in this country and for what kinds of candidates get elected by the GOP. This shit matters.

To use an environmental metaphor, the Tea Party isn’t just a threat to the GOP. They’re like Asian carp in the waters of US policy.

226 Gus  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:28:21am

Mmm, heating pad.

227 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:28:49am

re: #220 darthstar

Could Glenn Beck pass a psychological background check for a firearm?

He was never involuntarily committed, so yes.

228 Joanne  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:34:35am

re: #211 Vicious Babushka

Yeah…but Hollywood! :-)

Argo was good…Zero Dark Thirty was outstanding! Even knowing the outcome, I was on pins and needles.

229 Lidane  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:41:18am

Rubin’s salary = wasted money. The Washington Post would be better served using that money to hire interns:

230 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:42:53am

re: #228 Joanne

Yeah…but Hollywood! :-)

Argo was good…Zero Dark Thirty was outstanding! Even knowing the outcome, I was on pins and needles.

and one last note on Argo: It really was the kind of movie that that should be made seeking a Oscar: A mid-budget, character and plot driven movie.

BBL

231 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:43:20am

re: #229 Lidane

Rubin’s salary = wasted money. The Washington Post would be better served using that money to hire interns:

It’s easier to pay her and give her her online corner than it is to actually have to face her in person and fire her.

232 BigPapa  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:44:11am

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

Officeholders can’t make Beck go away, though. Hell, Fox News let him go and still he’s got a following. You should blame a political party for someone it can’t control who does not serve it in any relevant capacity.

I absolutely can. We need to define ‘relevant’ here, as I fail to see how the daily radio and blog rantings of Beck, Limbaugh, and the whole cadre of other faux ‘news’ blogs that are nothing more than propaganda outlets have no influence on the GOP.

Unless the GOP is not driving the discussion, but the Bloglodytes are. Who’s in charge here? I’m honestly not sure if the GOP is merely the lobbyist wing for the Koch funded Infotainment Network.

233 Lidane  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:45:38am
234 Renaissance_Man  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:48:40am

re: #232 BigPapa

Unless the GOP is not driving the discussion, but the Bloglodytes are. Who’s in charge here? I’m honestly not sure if the GOP is merely the lobbyist wing for the Koch funded Infotainment Network.

That’s exactly what they are and what they have become. The GOP is no longer a political party, merely the political arm of the Cult Media. And the purposes of that media are simply to keep rubes angry and sow enough talking points among those who vote GOP out of team loyalty to ensure that there is no meaningful opposition to the wholesale transfer of public wealth into the hands of a very few rich people.

235 Political Atheist  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:50:49am

You guys are more convinced than I am that even Glen Beck belives his own crap. My take? 100% shyster show boater. No history all histrionics.

236 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:53:53am

re: #235 Political Atheist

You guys are more convinced than I am that even Glen Beck relives his own crap. My take? 100% shyster show boater. No history all histrionics.

If supporting Obama and progressive ideas paid more than catering to conspiracy theorists and wingnuts, there wouldn’t be any conservative pundits. I don’t think any of them believe half the shit they sell.

237 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, May 5, 2013 9:57:30am

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

You’d have been fine, if not for the ‘white trash’ line, which was ugly unneeded, and smug.

Sorry I meant to put it in quotes. I don’t use the term because I know the implication is actually racist. It means white people who are as low as people of color.

238 A Mom Anon  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:04:54am

re: #235 Political Atheist

If I had to pin him down, Beck acts like a person who got sober but never got any help with his addiction problem. The “dry drunk” syndrome, which also happens to drug addicts who never really had a drinking problem. In other words, he may not be using, but since he never dealt with why he was using in the first place, the issues are still there with nothing to mask them. I’ve known people like this, the zealotry replaces the substance of choice. My crazy ass wingnut neighbor is like this, he’s an alcoholic who is using religion and politics and an anti-abortion crusade as his drink, to fill the void left over since he got sober. Dave Mustaine is another example, so is Rush Limbaugh.

I’m no expert, but I do know that once you get sober and deal with why you were using, there’s not a lot of room in your life to be ugly and hateful to other people. Of course not everyone who does the work to get sober ends up being a delightful human. But if you work through all your stuff, you will most likely find your journey out of that mess isn’t helped by being a jerk, either for a paycheck or not.

239 BigPapa  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:07:36am

re: #235 Political Atheist

You guys are more convinced than I am that even Glen Beck belives his own crap. My take? 100% shyster show boater. No history all histrionics.

It’s hard to say but at some point it doesn’t matter. Either he really is that nutty or he’s totally corrupt as a person.

240 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:08:07am

re: #238 A Mom Anon

He also never recovered from his job as a morning shock jock, which involved getting people’s attention by all available means and keeping it while they got ready and drove to work.

241 Political Atheist  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:08:33am

re: #238 A Mom Anon

Maybe, I have never known a person like that. I just happen to think the TV/media/celebrity factor (especially in the talk/pseudo political genre) draws the fakes and frustrated actor types. Flies gather at the cow pie.

242 bratwurst  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:10:54am

re: #238 A Mom Anon

If I had to pin him down, Beck acts like a person who got sober but never got any help with his addiction problem. The “dry drunk” syndrome, which also happens to drug addicts who never really had a drinking problem. In other words, he may not be using, but since he never dealt with why he was using in the first place, the issues are still there with nothing to mask them. I’ve known people like this, the zealotry replaces the substance of choice. My crazy ass wingnut neighbor is like this, he’s an alcoholic who is using religion and politics and an anti-abortion crusade as his drink, to fill the void left over since he got sober. Dave Mustaine is another example, so is Rush Limbaugh.

Anyone who has ever attended a 12 step meeting of any type will probably be able to see the truth in this.

243 Lidane  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:12:01am

re: #235 Political Atheist

You guys are more convinced than I am that even Glen Beck belives his own crap. My take? 100% shyster show boater. No history all histrionics.

It doesn’t matter if he believes his own bullshit or not. Fact is, there are people out there who DO believe his bullshit, and that has a direct impact on what passes for conservatism in this country and on the types of candidates that the GOP elects.

244 A Mom Anon  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:12:26am

re: #241 Political Atheist

I don’t think they’re mutually exclusive. Addicts are manipulative, it kinda goes with the territory. So it’s not surprising that someone like Beck would become a carnival barker/conman/propagandist/evangelist type of person.

245 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:15:20am

re: #244 A Mom Anon

I don’t think they’re mutually exclusive. Addicts are manipulative, it kinda goes with the territory. So it’s not surprising that someone like Beck would become a carnival barker/conman/propagandist/evangelist type of person.

True…they also substitute one addiction for another. Beck gave up alcohol, but attention is far more intoxicating.

246 Political Atheist  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:16:31am

re: #243 Lidane

It goes to his motivation. If you don’t care what drives him and only consider the effects sure you are right on the money. I happen to think granting him sincerity is misplaced is all. I can’t stand the man, he deliberately exploits and frightens people close to me like older family including my father and FIL.

247 Lidane  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:19:07am

re: #246 Political Atheist

It goes to his motivation. If you don’t care what drives him and only consider the effects sure you are right on the money. I happen to think granting sincerity is misplaced is all. I can’t stand the man, he deliberately exploits and frightens people close to me like older family including my father and FIL.

His motives are simple. He gets paid an obscene amount of money to do what he does, and he has influence on the GOP and on what passes for conservativism in this country. The rest is details.

The fact that he has a measurable impact on the kinds of candidates the GOP elects and on how people define the right are bonuses for Beck.

248 Political Atheist  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:20:13am

re: #246 Political Atheist

And I should add he damages the reputation of gold and gold investments with his Goldline. There is a huge legit side of that, Glen ain’t it. That hurts me professionally, in the overall big picture sense.

249 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:21:30am
250 darthstar  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:22:44am

Okay…lazy Sunday morning time is over. Time to put on some clothes and enjoy the day. Later, everyone.

251 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:23:30am

Here we go again with the Benghazi boogaloo.

252 A Mom Anon  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:23:35am

re: #242 bratwurst

Yep. I never could deal with a 12 step approach, I found a lot of people there were really not focused on recovery so much as finding a substitute for their substance. I’m wording this awkwardly, but some of the people there sort of became addicted to the meetings, if that makes sense. Of course that’s a better choice than the drinking or drugs for them, but I could never get comfortable in those meetings. I needed therapy and was lucky enough to find someone who helped me draw on my strengths so I could get out of the pit I was in.

253 Amory Blaine  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:27:58am

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

QFT On that, you and I are in perfect accord.

The only thing keeping them out is a broken down electrified screen door. Many are lobbying to have that canal permanently severed from the lake. Something I wish happened years ago.

254 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:36:53am

Zionist Monsters attack chicken farm!
Israeli Strike Aftermath Footage - Al Manar TV [ENGLISH]

255 stabby  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:38:03am

re: #236 darthstar

If supporting Obama and progressive ideas paid more than catering to conspiracy theorists and wingnuts, there wouldn’t be any conservative pundits. I don’t think any of them believe half the shit they sell.

They’re not faking being ignorant, bigoted and stupid though, you should hear what happens when Bill Maher give Ann Coulter the doe eyes and she lets her guard down. She’s the biggest know nothing on the planet!

256 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:40:56am

re: #255 stabby

They’re not faking being ignorant, bigoted and stupid though, you should hear what happens when Bill Maher give Ann Coulter the doe eyes and she lets her guard down. She’s the biggest know nothing on the planet!

I can’t for the life of me understand what he sees in that woman.

257 Targetpractice  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:43:48am

re: #251 Charles Johnson

Here we go again with the Benghazi boogaloo.

“This time we’ll get Obama for sure!!”

258 Political Atheist  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:43:57am

Did any of you read American Sniper?

259 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:52:22am

re: #258 Political Atheist

Did any of you read American Sniper?

No. I’ve known a US Army Ranger sniper though; did you have a question about that or is it specific to the book?

260 Political Atheist  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:55:25am

re: #259 William Barnett-Lewis

Just curious as to peoples take on it. Guy was extremely dedicated and caring about the troops around him.

261 Targetpractice  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:55:33am

The Benghazi “scandal,” at least according to what the GOP’s made of it, seems to amount to “Obama ‘lied’ to the public and so denied us a scandal!”

262 Romantic Heretic  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:55:54am

re: #181 Varek Raith

Spaceship pr0n.
Image: gnosis1.png

This was my favourite in in X3: Terran Conflict.

263 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:56:58am

re: #260 Political Atheist

Just curious as to peoples take on it. Guy was extremely dedicated and caring about the troops around him.

I read it after I hear an interview with him on the radio. Fascinating book.
The story of his first kill really stuck with me.

264 Varek Raith  Sun, May 5, 2013 10:59:42am

re: #262 Romantic Heretic

This was my favourite in in X3: Terran Conflict.

My favorite in Eve;
Image: New%20Destroyer%20Corax.png

Missile destroyer.

265 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:02:08am

re: #260 Political Atheist

Just curious as to peoples take on it. Guy was extremely dedicated and caring about the troops around him.

It’s a long hard course before you get out in the field. There is a certain personality type that is needed as well. The saying is, anyone can use a scope to kill someone once; only snipers can do it again. That’s not literally true, of course, but those who are able to be successful snipers have to separate themselves from the result of their actions in a way that is different from most troops. If the book takes time to discuss the training and the hows and whys it might be interesting. If it’s just a collection of, as it were, “war stories” then not so much.

The concept of caring for your troops is ingrained early and often in the US military’s training of NCO’s & Officers. It’s considered an important aspect of leadership and if you aren’t able to do that, you probably are going to get passed over for promotions and be out of the military quickly.

266 Political Atheist  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:09:03am

re: #265 William Barnett-Lewis

The tough ROE’s and the give and take between his assigned tactics from the Army and his trained (far more forward) tactics was all interesting.

268 Varek Raith  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:11:33am

re: #267 stabby

Image: 322c9d29-db56-4f12-8e81-30505459d9c4.jpg

Image: hkrifterw.jpg

Image: hellokittyapoc.jpg

google thinks it’s related…: Image: hello-kitty-superman-thumb.jpg

Hello Kitty Kestrel
Hello Kitty Rifter
Hello Kitty Apocalypse.
Some dude.
:)

269 CuriousLurker  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:13:20am

re: #13 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

CL, if you are too tired, or unable to make a comment, blink your eyes once for yes, twice for no.

*blink*

270 Varek Raith  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:14:13am

re: #269 CuriousLurker

*blink*

Yo!
How goes things?

271 122 Year Old Obama  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:14:15am

re: #269 CuriousLurker

{{CL}}

Heeey! How’s it going?

272 Political Atheist  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:14:31am

re: #269 CuriousLurker

*blink*

Hi how are you doing?

274 Bubblehead II  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:20:35am

re: #269 CuriousLurker

*blink*

How are you doing?

275 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:20:52am

Looks like Israel isn’t finished yet.

276 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:20:54am

re: #269 CuriousLurker

Hi CL. Please take care of yourself and get better soon.

277 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:24:13am

re: #269 CuriousLurker

*blink*

{{{{CL}}}}

What’s your mother’s name? I will say tehillim (psalms) for you.

278 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:26:08am

¡Feliz Cinco de Mayo!

279 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:26:49am

This must be why the IDF closed that airspace…

280 Bubblehead II  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:35:04am

re: #279 NJDhockeyfan

This must be why the IDF closed that airspace…

And moved those Iron Dome batteries. They were expecting something like this.

281 Kragar  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:36:04am

NRA speaker’s advice: Keep a gun in your child’s room

A home-defense seminar at this weekend’s National Rifle Association convention urged parents to overcome their initial misgivings and store firearms in their childrens’ bedrooms, Think Progress reported on Saturday.

“If you’re worried that your kid is going to try to break into the safe that is in their bedroom with a gun in it, you have bigger problems than home defense,” said speaker Rob Pincus, a former police officer who know heads up his own firearms instruction company, I.C.E. Training. “If you think that the kid who’s going to try to break into the safe because it’s in their room isn’t sneaking into your room to try to break into stuff, you’re naive and you have bigger problems than this.”

If a parent is “in the middle of the house” when their home alarm goes off overnight, Pincus said, and they are going to head for their childrens’ room to defend against an intruder, it made sense to stash a gun in their closet.

282 Political Atheist  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:41:10am

re: #281 Kragar


Okay he said gun safe not just gun. Whew. But still a bad, bad idea.

283 A Mom Anon  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:42:24am

re: #281 Kragar

One might wonder how the hell these people manage to ever leave their houses if they’re that fucking scared. Seriously, I just can’t relate to this mindset at all and I have been assaulted and had a gun pulled on me before.

Sometimes I wonder how much of this is just posturing, how many of these nutbars actually DO carry guns into the freaking toilet with them because heaven knows what might reach up and bite them on the ass. I’m tired of these morons. I swear, if one more wingnut tells me that the 2nd Amendment protects all the other ones I may end up throwing a chair at someone.

284 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:43:47am

re: #283 A Mom Anon

I swear, if one more wingnut tells me that the 2nd Amendment protects all the other ones I may end up throwing a chair at someone.

I would empty an entire 30-chair magazine…

285 Political Atheist  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:44:56am

re: #283 A Mom Anon

An obsession with the second certainly causes excessive use & abuse of the first.

286 jaunte  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:45:14am

re: #281 Kragar

“If you’re worried that your kid is going to try to break into the safe that is in their bedroom with a gun in it, you have bigger problems than home defense,” said speaker Rob Pincus…

Rob should specify the type of safe he recommends before he gets all smart-alecky.

Tobias began studying the security of gun safes after he was called in to help investigate the death of Ryan Owens, a 3-year-old in Vancouver, Washington, who was shot in 2010 with the service weapon of his father, an undercover police officer.

That weapon had been locked up in an inexpensive safe issued to the officer by the country sheriff’s office. Tobias believes that Ryan or one of his siblings opened the safe and removed the weapon, due to a serious design flaw.

Following that investigation Tobias decided to look into the safety of a wide range of inexpensive gun safes.

The lock experts showed videos in which they opened gun safes costing between $75 to $200, all of which are made in China and sold through retailers including Wal-Mart Stores Inc and Dick’s Sporting Goods Inc.

They were able to open one safe after they gently bounced it on a table by pushing up one corner with a finger. They opened up other safes after sticking paper clips, wires and straws into holes on top of them.
reuters.com

287 Targetpractice  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:47:18am

Yegods, playing Bioshock Infinite on a console reminds me yet again why I prefer FPS games on a PC. Mouse and keyboard for the win!

288 A Mom Anon  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:47:47am

re: #286 jaunte

That’s fucked up as hell.

289 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 5, 2013 11:50:21am

re: #283 A Mom Anon

One might wonder how the hell these people manage to ever leave their houses if they’re that fucking scared. Seriously, I just can’t relate to this mindset at all and I have been assaulted and had a gun pulled on me before.

Sometimes I wonder how much of this is just posturing, how many of these nutbars actually DO carry guns into the freaking toilet with them because heaven knows what might reach up and bite them on the ass. I’m tired of these morons. I swear, if one more wingnut tells me that the 2nd Amendment protects all the other ones I may end up throwing a chair at someone.

FIL did not carry a gun to the toilet. He kept one there, and in several other rooms of the house. We had to shake the place down when we brought the kids. It was media-induced fear, and he was a combat soldier who saw serious action in 2 wars.

290 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, May 5, 2013 12:08:09pm

re: #283 A Mom Anon

One might wonder how the hell these people manage to ever leave their houses if they’re that fucking scared. Seriously, I just can’t relate to this mindset at all and I have been assaulted and had a gun pulled on me before.

Sometimes I wonder how much of this is just posturing, how many of these nutbars actually DO carry guns into the freaking toilet with them because heaven knows what might reach up and bite them on the ass. I’m tired of these morons. I swear, if one more wingnut tells me that the 2nd Amendment protects all the other ones I may end up throwing a chair at someone.

I don’t even understand how they get out of bed in the morning…
I mean, there are commies under the bed and in the closets, just for starters…

291 A Mom Anon  Sun, May 5, 2013 12:10:35pm

re: #289 Decatur Deb

In your FIL’s case, I can understand it somewhat. He’s dealt with the trauma of combat, and while it’s not cool to stash guns all over the place where the grandkids can get at them, at least his fears are somewhat based on actual experiences. The rest of these yahoos though, the most combat they’ve seen is battling for the next place in line at the Golden Corral buffet line. I wonder how many of the nimrods at the NRA convention this week have ever had so much as a neighbor being a target of burglary. If my experiences in Outer Wingnuttia are any indication, the answer to that is a resounding no.

292 stabby  Sun, May 5, 2013 12:24:14pm

re: #281 Kragar

NRA speaker’s advice: Keep a gun in your child’s room

Those assholes are 110% about selling. Now they’ve figured out how to sell guns to babies. Fuckers!

293 Bulworth  Mon, May 6, 2013 6:48:02am

What war on science?1!!!


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