Overnight Bad Lip Reading Remix: "Sing-Song Contest of America"

Overnight Bad Lip Reading Remix: “Sing-Song Contest of America”

What is he even playing? Is that jazz?

Charles Johnson

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce May 23, 2014 8:03:47pm

Nerf Rock

klys May 23, 2014 8:05:19pm

I may finally give in and get a third monitor. God help my desk space.

Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 8:11:51pm

Can’t watch that show, but LOVE Harry Connick Jr.

Old old old cd, but still so lovely to listen to: amazon.com

Dark_Falcon May 23, 2014 8:14:38pm

re: #3 Stanley Sea

Can’t watch that show, but LOVE Harry Connick Jr.

Old old old cd, but still so lovely to listen to: amazon.com

Agreed. That one is a true jazz classic. Lots of great stuff on it and even the songs that aren’t great are good.

FemNaziBitch May 23, 2014 8:15:43pm

Once seen, the cat in this picture cannot be unseen.

Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 8:17:24pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. That one is a true jazz classic. Lots of great stuff on it and even the songs that aren’t great are good.

So cool you know it too!

btw, I’m making Chicago Dogs tomorrow. Find my previous post describing. Thought of you.

Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 8:19:10pm

re: #5 FemNaziBitch

Once seen, the cat in this picture cannot be unseen. [Embedded image]

took me forever, then HAHAHAHHAHAHA

Dark_Falcon May 23, 2014 8:19:27pm

re: #5 FemNaziBitch

Once seen, the cat in this picture cannot be unseen. [Embedded image]

It looks like its underwater. I do hope its not dead.

Gus May 23, 2014 8:19:31pm

re: #5 FemNaziBitch

Once seen, the cat in this picture cannot be unseen. [Embedded image]

Gus May 23, 2014 8:20:00pm

Wait. Just noticed the cat. Derp.

Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 8:20:18pm

re: #10 Gus

Wait. Just noticed the cat. Derp.

LOL

William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 8:20:19pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. That one is a true jazz classic. Lots of great stuff on it and even the songs that aren’t great are good.

Never cared for him, but that’s mostly a style issue. Ellington, Armstrong, Goodman’s small group work, or going further back, Bix Biderbeck are more my taste.

Not trying to say he’s bad, because he’s very talented. But I’d listen to many other things first :)

FemNaziBitch May 23, 2014 8:22:10pm

Exactly how old are you?

Gus May 23, 2014 8:23:11pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

LOL

b_sharp May 23, 2014 8:23:12pm

re: #5 FemNaziBitch

Once seen, the cat in this picture cannot be unseen. [Embedded image]

Why isn’t the hot water ear red?

wheat-dogghazi May 23, 2014 8:23:33pm

re: #13 FemNaziBitch

My music teacher in HS had that tool!

FemNaziBitch May 23, 2014 8:25:13pm

Going to the Governor’s desk for signature! WOOT! Illinois.

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Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 8:25:22pm

re: #13 FemNaziBitch

Exactly how old are you?

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eh?

Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 8:25:47pm

re: #14 Gus

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killing me

FemNaziBitch May 23, 2014 8:25:57pm

re: #16 wheat-dogghazi

My music teacher in HS had that tool!

Nuns had them in every room.

Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 8:26:57pm

re: #20 FemNaziBitch

Nuns had them in every room.

what are they?

wheat-dogghazi May 23, 2014 8:27:57pm

re: #21 Stanley Sea

what are they?

Makes a musical staff in no time.

Gus May 23, 2014 8:28:47pm

re: #19 Stanley Sea

killing me

jaunte May 23, 2014 8:29:26pm

re: #23 Gus

FemNaziBitch May 23, 2014 8:30:45pm

klys May 23, 2014 8:30:49pm

re: #24 jaunte

Delivering one Internet, for you sir.

Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 8:31:03pm

re: #23 Gus

[Embedded image]

hahahahha (not uncle yet, cause you are on a good roll!)

FemNaziBitch May 23, 2014 8:31:11pm

re: #21 Stanley Sea

what are they?

also used when teaching cursive handwriting on the blackboard —by the nuns at least.

Dark_Falcon May 23, 2014 8:31:42pm

re: #23 Gus

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Greenwald is already down in the sewer, his credibility have drained away long ago.

FemNaziBitch May 23, 2014 8:32:17pm

re: #15 b_sharp

Why isn’t the hot water ear red?

same reason the cold water ear isn’t blue.

you know how you make a blue elephant.

Gus May 23, 2014 8:32:31pm

re: #27 Stanley Sea

hahahahha (not unce yet, cause you are on a good roll!)

No place to hide! //

Stanley Sea May 23, 2014 8:33:31pm

re: #28 FemNaziBitch

also used when teaching cursive handwriting on the blackboard —by the nuns at least.

Chalk board liners! did not compute from the photo at all. Looked like some sort of pier one candle holders. I’m like… nuns?

wheat-dogghazi May 23, 2014 8:34:16pm

re: #28 FemNaziBitch

also used when teaching cursive handwriting on the blackboard —by the nuns at least.

One curiosity of teaching English in China are the notebooks the college students use for English notetaking. Many of them have the parallel lines i remember from my 3rd grade cursive lessons.

Gus May 23, 2014 8:34:36pm

There’s a pernicious organism in the sink!

b_sharp May 23, 2014 8:37:17pm

re: #13 FemNaziBitch

Exactly how old are you?

[Embedded image]

Why does that look familiar?

FemNaziBitch May 23, 2014 8:38:07pm

re: #35 b_sharp

Why does that look familiar?

does it have something to do with your moniker?

b_sharp May 23, 2014 8:38:41pm

re: #36 FemNaziBitch

does it have something to do with your moniker?

Hmmm, I wonder….

wheat-dogghazi May 23, 2014 8:41:07pm

re: #37 b_sharp

Image: B_major_(G_sharp_minor).png

What’s a quick way to draw the staff?

FemNaziBitch May 23, 2014 8:42:24pm

Film’s Most Bonkers Time-Travel Plots, Mapped in Handy Infographics

Back to the future has an erratic heart rate.

b_sharp May 23, 2014 8:42:27pm

re: #38 wheat-dogghazi

Image: 1200px-C-sharp-major_a-sharp-minor.svg.png

Don’t don’t don’t don’t.

Gus May 23, 2014 8:42:43pm

Hat toss! pic.twitter.com/evIfFL84YA
— Naval Academy (@NavalAcademy) May 23, 2014

FemNaziBitch May 23, 2014 8:43:29pm

Still trying to sort why Speaker John Boehner didn't know that Rep Darrell Issa would go nuts if he took Benghazi away. IT'S ALL HE HAS.
— Sarah Reese Jones (@srjones66) May 24, 2014

wheat-dogghazi May 23, 2014 8:46:25pm

re: #40 b_sharp

Don’t don’t don’t don’t.

Sorry. Clicked wrong image in Google. Reload page to see the correct B# staff.

FemNaziBitch May 23, 2014 8:55:56pm

Expanding opportunities and amplifying the voices of women and girls isn’t a zero-sum equation, because gender equality conveys broad development dividends for men and boys, families, and communities. Conversely, constraining women’s agency by limiting what jobs they can do or condoning gender-based violence can cause huge economic losses and hinder development efforts.

Yes, of course, it’s Paged. Women Who Read are Dangerous

FemNaziBitch May 23, 2014 9:05:10pm

What is long and slim, works in light; has but one eye, and an awful bite?

Amory Blaine May 23, 2014 9:06:13pm

HALF-LIFE 3 ‘BEING WORKED ON,’ SAYS COUNTER-STRIKE CREATOR

“I don’t think I can talk about that, to be honest, but I think it’s kind of public knowledge, that people know that it is being worked on,” Le said of the long-fabled Half-Life 3, speaking on podcast goRGNtv. “I guess I could say that I did see something that looked kinda like in the Half-Life universe. And I mean it wouldn’t surprise anyone if I said they’re doing it, they’re working on it, yeah. So to go on a limb I’d say I did see some concept art for Half-Life 3.”

Le also confessed to being “really excited” about a new, unannounced entry in the Left 4 Dead series. “I saw it, it looks great. I was really excited when I saw that, I was like ‘wow, this looks great’.”

bratwurst May 23, 2014 9:06:39pm

Dog and Cat in Paris, unknown date, by Annick Gérardin pic.twitter.com/tnVML5JSFe
— Historical Pics (@HistoricalPics) May 24, 2014

Dark_Falcon May 23, 2014 9:06:42pm

re: #42 FemNaziBitch

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Meanwhile, in my series this week on stories using the name ‘Benghazi’ that are actually about Benghazi:
Support grows for renegade Libyan general

The renegade former army officer Khalifa Haftar is gathering support from various military units and militias after he launched an offensive against the Islamist militias in Benghazi.

The offensive began with attacks on the militias’ bases in the southwest of Benghazi on 16 May. Haftar then held a press conference to announce that his Libyan National Army had launched Operation ‘Al-Kharamah’ (dignity) to “purge the city of terrorists”.

The weak central government said it did not order the offensive and accused Haftar, who holds no official position in the military, of launching a coup, but conceded that he was supported by military units, including the nearby Binina Airbase, which flew sorties in support of the initial offensive.

The airbase’s Facebook page suggests its serviceable aircraft include two MiG-23s, as many as five MiG-21s, and some Mi-24/35 attack helicopters.

SNIP

The commander of Libya’s air defences, Colonel Juma al-Abani, announced on 20 May that he supported Haftar. His force’s Facebook page suggests it is equipped with at least three vehicle-mounted Igla-S short-range surface-to-air missile systems, at least two M53/59 Praga self-propelled anti-aircraft guns, and various light anti-aircraft guns mounted on Toyota Land Cruisers.

While Haftar is known for his confident pronouncements, he alluded to the difficulties facing his forces after they failed to decisively defeat the Benghazi Islamists in the initial assaults on their bases. “Now they have gone into residential areas so we have to be very careful and the movement is slow because we have to be … very careful not to hit civilians. It’s going to take some time,” he told The Washington Post .

I hope Gen. Haftar is given the support he needs to succeed. The Islamist militias in Benghazi need to be suppressed as armed forces and those aligned with Al Qaeda must be destroyed.

FemNaziBitch May 23, 2014 9:10:13pm

nytol

NJDhockeyfan May 23, 2014 9:13:51pm

Evening lizards!

We just had a scare. My wife was in bed and heard a car coming down the driveway and turning into our neighbor’s driveway. She then heard gunshots and looked out the window in time to see the car speeding around the house spinning gravel all the way down to the road. She came and got me and asked if I would check on our neighbor so I went over. I knocked on the front door and nobody answered. I can see the TV on in the other room. I came back and looked up her number and called. No answer. I went back and knocked on the front door again then both back doors. Nobody answered. I walked back to our house and my wife called 911.

The cops came and went over there. Good news nothing bad happened. She was on the phone the whole time with her brother and didn’t even hear the car or the gunshots. Weird.

Gus May 23, 2014 9:15:48pm

OMG! I went to a restaurant and they asked me to remove my Google Glass! Tyranny! Pathetic really. http://t.co/6GL1MYXMAa
— Gus (@Gus_802) May 24, 2014

wheat-dogghazi May 23, 2014 9:16:05pm

re: #50 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards!

We just had a scare. My wife was in bed and heard a car coming down the driveway and turning into our neighbor’s driveway. She then heard gunshots and looked out the window in time to see the car speeding around the house spinning gravel all the way down to the road. She came and got me and asked if I would check on our neighbor so I went over. I knocked on the front door and nobody answered. I can see the TV on in the other room. I came back and looked up her number and called. No answer. I went back and knocked on the front door again then both back doors. Nobody answered. I walked back to our house and my wife called 911.

The cops came and went over there. Good news nothing bad happened. She was on the phone the whole time with her brother and didn’t even hear the car or the gunshots. Weird.

Another day in paradise …
/

Lidane May 23, 2014 9:16:59pm

re: #16 wheat-dogghazi

My music teacher in HS had that tool!

And my music teacher in HS was a tool.

Oh, and he probably had that thing laying around somewhere too. Haha.

William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 9:17:26pm

re: #42 FemNaziBitch

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No real surprise. It’s the only way Boner has to discipline his troops.

Lidane May 23, 2014 9:18:37pm

re: #46 Amory Blaine

HALF-LIFE 3 ‘BEING WORKED ON,’ SAYS COUNTER-STRIKE CREATOR

I call bullshit until there’s a playable demo. Half-Life 3 is vaporware until then.

wheat-dogghazi May 23, 2014 9:19:14pm

re: #53 Lidane

And my music teacher in HS was a tool.

Oh, and he probably had that thing laying around somewhere too. Haha.

I was fortunate. I had music teachers who were very good. My choral teacher sang tenor in a barbershop quartet, and our band director was the drummer Clem DeRosa, who knew a lot of big names in jazz.

Gus May 23, 2014 9:21:12pm

pic.twitter.com/nBEDDmrvLr
— Gus (@Gus_802) May 24, 2014

William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 9:22:10pm

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

Don’t really know enough about that general - KT”s whining keeps me not wanting to bother - but this caught my eye:

The airbase’s Facebook page suggests its serviceable aircraft include two MiG-23s, as many as five MiG-21s, and some Mi-24/35 attack helicopters..

Good for a Counter Insurgency but dead meat against any real enemy. For mud moving the 23’s are actually not too bad. Hang some rocket pods on those hard points and most will be cowering & looking for cover. But the 21’s & helios are not worth much in the real world.

First As Tragedy, Then As Farce May 23, 2014 9:32:05pm

re: #58 William Barnett-Lewis

But the 21’s & helios are not worth much in the real world.

Huh.

William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 9:42:21pm

re: #59 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Huh.

The word you’re looking for is “Stinger”. As in MANPADS. As in FIM-92. Too many of them in the wild for the Hind to ever create as much fear as it did in 1978.

NJDhockeyfan May 23, 2014 9:48:02pm

Digital Kitty

William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 9:55:00pm

Good night all. I’ll chat in the morning as my shift tomorrow is 11:45 to 8:00… There are a number of ways I am _not_ looking forward to that…

PS. If you have a medical issue with salt? Don’t go to McDonald’s. We salt the fuck out of everything and to make a burger without salt is a real PITA. Go someplace else that isn’t dependent upon hyper sodium & HFCS to get you to come back…

Ah well, at least it’s better than Walfart. Fuck the Walton’s with a rusty pitchfork!

wheat-dogghazi May 23, 2014 10:00:15pm

re: #62 William Barnett-Lewis

Good night all. I’ll chat in the morning as my shift tomorrow is 11:45 to 8:00… There are a number of ways I am _not_ looking forward to that…

PS. If you have a medical issue with salt? Don’t go to McDonald’s. We salt the fuck out of everything and to make a burger without salt is a real PITA. Go someplace else that isn’t dependent upon hyper sodium & HFCS to get you to come back…

Ah well, at least it’s better than Walfart. Fuck the Walton’s with a rusty pitchfork!

Most fast food is heavy on salt. And some people even salt their fries!

William Barnett-Lewis May 23, 2014 10:10:52pm

re: #63 wheat-dogghazi

Most fast food is heavy on salt. And some people even salt their fries!

What galls me is when someone orders a burger with no salt and then takes a packet and salts it even more than _we_ would…

:BANG HEAD:

Gus May 23, 2014 10:16:10pm

Straight, No Chaser

Youtube Video

Gus May 23, 2014 10:16:59pm

Helmet became compulsory for motorbike riders in #Kandahar, Say local police.
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Gus May 23, 2014 10:23:19pm

Tennessee pic.twitter.com/T8AgqNeY6B
— Gus (@Gus_802) May 24, 2014

Gus May 23, 2014 10:24:07pm

Gun groups getting members to take long guns into restaurant chains decide it was a really dumb idea http://t.co/qqv98iVV7h
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) May 24, 2014

Gus May 23, 2014 10:27:12pm

It's a bank holiday weekend, it's raining. Why not take 6 mins to watch this film about the #thames + the work we do http://t.co/HpHBJo07l3
— LondonPortAuthority (@LondonPortAuth) May 24, 2014

The War TARDIS May 23, 2014 10:33:53pm

re: #39 FemNaziBitch

Doctor Who isn’t included!

Gus May 23, 2014 10:34:00pm

The London Port Authority vid was pretty cool.

Gus May 23, 2014 10:37:50pm

pic.twitter.com/krBbJ4g7GO
— Gus (@Gus_802) May 24, 2014

Gus May 23, 2014 10:41:17pm

freetoken May 23, 2014 10:56:39pm

“Race realists” are really coming out of the closet to defend the recently published Troublesome Inheritance.

On the Slate review that came out a couple of weeks ago commenters continue to drift in, and this was posted 17 hours ago:

Ortega Gasset 17 hours ago
How come it’s always anglosaxons like E.O. Wilson, Watson, Nicholas Wade and Jarod Taylor who come up with common sensical, apolitical racial realism and jews like Diamond, Gould, Lewontin, Rose and the author of this piece, Gelman, with this hysterical ultrarelativism? It makes you wonder, who benefits from these cheap tales of universality…

I think we can safely file this one under What Anti-Semitism?

freetoken May 23, 2014 11:03:07pm

A better, more to the point, refutation of Nicholas Wade is found in the review in the 5 June version of The New York Review of Books:

Stretch Genes

wheat-dogghazi May 23, 2014 11:16:26pm

re: #76 freetoken

Race, which is the whole premise upon which Wade bases his argument, has been discredited for decades. Yet, the “race realists” hang onto the notion because it suits their purposes.

From Wikipedia’s entry for False Premise:

A false premise can also be a premise that is poorly or incompletely defined so as to make the conclusion questionable. The following joke from Plato and a Platypus Walk Into a Bar illustrates the point:

“An old cowboy goes into a bar and orders a drink. As he sits there sipping his whiskey, a young lady sits down next to him. … She says, ‘I’m a lesbian. I spend my whole day thinking about women. …’ A little while later, a couple sits down next to the old cowboy and asks him, ‘Are you a real cowboy?’ He replies, ‘I always thought I was, but I just found out I’m a lesbian’”.

freetoken May 23, 2014 11:34:30pm

re: #77 wheat-dogghazi

Well, the paleo/hate right is latching onto Wade Nicholas, and if not him then Mark Cuban.

Our old friends at National Racists Online have yet to tackle Nicholas Wade’s book, but they’re all in on defending Mark Cuban”:

Eric Holder Was Right

Where we find plenty of I’m-not-a-racist-really comments such as:

AttilasDaughter Kurt NY • 2 hours ago
What would happen if every non-black person would refuse to have this conversation.

Because, as You say, it is not wanted and just taken advantage of.

If You sit at a table with black friends and the discussion comes up, just say: “Sorry, but I don’t want to discuss this.”

Starve them of their fodder for a year.

—

Jakareh • 4 hours ago
How could a man as intelligent as Mark Cuban not understand what liberals—especially black liberals—mean when they talk about a dialogue concerning racial relations? Their idea of a dialogue is denunciations and demands on their part, answered by apologies and groveling accession on our part. Cuban fails to understand that as a white man he is irredeemably evil and that he has no right to be afraid of any black individual whatsoever. Even if the hooded black teenager on a dark street has felonious, indeed murderous intentions, Cuban would only be getting what he deserves.

—

NAHALKIDES • 5 hours ago
I disagree with Cooke: it’s unfair to call Americans “cowards” for being reluctant to engage in discussions of race when the radical Left is just waiting, fangs dripping with venom, to strike. Its weapons are dishonest but potent: reckless accusations of racism on the one hand, the argument from intimidation on the other. Cooke also seems to agree (at least by default) that white racism is a subject that needs a lot of discussion - why? Very few white people are prejudiced against blacks any more; the reverse is sadly perhaps less true (talk about a conversation Holder doesn’t want to have!).

It will, however, take real bravery to talk about the evils of “affirmative action” which systematically discriminates against whites (especially white males) and Asians, and which has never been justifiable. Can you imagine a Republican talking about the need to end affirmative action? Neither can I - but think of the screams on the Left!

—

vegemighty • 8 hours ago
They tell us to check our privilege. They tell us that to be white in America is to be inherently racist. They tell us that it is a lie (and in fact a form of bigotry in itself) to claim to be colorblind, and that we must acknowledge our own bigotry.

So then a man does that. He checks his privilege, owns up to his own bigotry, and castigates himself for his sins. And for that, he is vilified by the same progressives who demanded just that.

And so forth. All signals of pent up resentment. If only they could speak their mind and not be censored - I did notice that NRO deleted a couple of comments.

freetoken May 23, 2014 11:37:27pm

And NRO just posted their rebuttal of TNC, done of course by Kevin Williamson:

The Case against Reparations

Currently zero comments.

That won’t last long.

freetoken May 23, 2014 11:42:27pm

What I find interesting is that Williamson sounds almost apologetic for having to take on this task. He doesn’t really try to discredit what Coates wrote, regarding the past, and even acknowledges that what Coates writes about the present is partially correct.

Instead, Williamson does his best to try and pivot the argument to indict liberals and their New Deal policies, etc.

We’ll see if the NRO commenters have any part of this approach.

wheat-dogghazi May 23, 2014 11:47:35pm

re: #78 freetoken

It’s convenient for them to assume there is such a quantity as race, because all the quasi-scientific handwaving enables them to justify their own prejudices. As a journalist, Wade did a piss-poor job of addressing the scientific basis of race, or rather, the lack of such a basis. Race is a cultural construct, not a scientific one.

Meanwhile, the supposedly superior whites are curiously mum about Asians’ generally superior performance on math and science exams.

I’ve followed this kind of pseudo-scientific garbage since the 1970s, when the pop expert du jour was William Shockley, of transistor fame. The quality of the “research” and arguments have not improved one iota.

freetoken May 23, 2014 11:51:28pm

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi

Meanwhile, the supposedly superior whites are curiously mum about Asians’ generally superior performance on math and science exams.

On the contrary, race realists constantly refer to the (supposed) intellectual prowess of East Asians.

In Nicholas Wade’s latest book he too gets into that.

wheat-dogghazi May 23, 2014 11:57:20pm

re: #82 freetoken

On the contrary, race realists constantly refer to the (supposed) intellectual prowess of East Asians.

In Nicholas Wade’s latest book he too gets into that.

Ah, but they don’t bother to reflect on what those results mean for their assumption that whites sit at the top of the “race ladder.”

Amory Blaine May 23, 2014 11:59:02pm

Youtube Video

piratedan May 24, 2014 12:03:13am

here’s a link…

politico.com

and my apologies, it’s Politico….

just wanted to have you folks take a cruise through the comments in order to make a point about what we’re up against here in 2014. This is a man who was shot while working for his employer, Gabrielle Giffords, and when she couldn’t continue to serve, he stepped up and took her place. Feel free to savor the respect that they give both Representative Barber and former Representative Giffords in the comments. While I will be working for Mr. Barber again in 2014 (doing phone banking most likely), I urge you all to devote what you can spare, be it time or money or talent to continue to make a difference, all elections for public office matter.

Amory Blaine May 24, 2014 12:11:56am

30 years ago you used to be able to throw a rock around here in any direction and there would be a house party going on there.

Lidane May 24, 2014 12:21:11am

re: #80 freetoken

We’ll see if the NRO commenters have any part of this approach.

They posted a rebuttal over Memorial Day weekend when the interns are out of the office and won’t be around to delete the openly racist comments?

That should be fun.

Dr Lizardo May 24, 2014 12:31:46am

The city of Portland, OR has issued a ‘boil water’ notice after E. coli was detected in the city’s water supply. Not good.

The water bureau said in three separate incidents from May 20 to May 23, repeat water samples confirmed total coliform and E. coli in drinking water samples.

The water samples that tested positive for bacteria were collected at Mt. Tabor Reservoirs 1 and 5, and at the SE 2nd Avenue and Salmon Street water sampling station.

The bureau says both reservoirs have been taken offline.

katu.com

Amory Blaine May 24, 2014 12:35:09am

Youtube Video

freetoken May 24, 2014 12:43:36am

re: #87 Lidane

They posted a rebuttal over Memorial Day weekend when the interns are out of the office and won’t be around to delete the openly racist comments?

That should be fun.

The first comment is from one of those spam-bots. You know, the ones that proclaim they discovered a way to make zillions of dollars if you just click the link.

One thing that the LGF hamsters do real well is keeping the bots at bay.

Amory Blaine May 24, 2014 12:54:21am

It was custom to drink at work at the breweries here.

Varek Raith May 24, 2014 12:59:00am

Where’s mah meteors?!?!

Amory Blaine May 24, 2014 12:59:03am

re: #73 Gus

What memorial day is all about man.

Amory Blaine May 24, 2014 1:00:09am

re: #92 Varek Raith

No shit. I have terrible light pollution here but I haven’t seen anything under clear skies.

Alyosha May 24, 2014 1:35:10am

re: #78 freetoken

My feeling, of late has been that the kind of individual whose reaction to offensive comments made by characters like Bundy, Sterling, and thoughtful articles and observations, like Coates’, is to throw a massive hissyfit and point at the ‘Left’ and rational people and declare that they are the ‘true racists’ do ,in fact, understand the finer parts of the debate. Not all of them, nor even most of them obviously. But their reaction comes from feeling a strong guilt at one’s race and the abusive role it has played in a lot of recent history.

And instead of embracing this impulse to feeling the collective guilt and learning to apply this new perspective to how a just society ought to be structured with the object of somehow elevating the communities still subjected to racism to a level where they are offered the same opportunities and privileges that whites enjoy, their intellect avoids accepting any responsibility for how the status quo is perpetuated, and instead blames those raising the issue in the first place.

I heard this a lot when our PM and Parliament made an apology to the aboriginal peoples for past abuses. The apology wasn’t for the original colonisation of the continent, nor was it an apology for the genocides that occurred thereafter. Rather it was an apology to those aboriginal children stolen from their mothers to be raised in white society. Much of this happened within living memory.

I heard many complaints to the effect of, ‘I’m not personally responsible, therefore there is no crime.’
If these people, reluctant to take ownership of a society stacked against other races, do indeed feel a spark of guilt at the mention of inequality and privilege, they bury it beneath a mountain of denial and umbrage at an imagined persecution.

There are human beings beneath that armour of enforced ignorance, and I guess that’s the problem.
All too human.

freetoken May 24, 2014 2:39:07am

MP3 Audio

Ding-an-sich Wannabe May 24, 2014 3:14:07am

From earlier here:

valleywag.gawker.com

Kasmai is both the founder of Glass NYC (a local community of ExplorersTM) and the CEO of Xocracy, a startup designed to facilitate “direct democracy” by voting on social and political issues “in real time.” After being asked to remove her device, she put all that activist juju towards decimating the score of a seasonal American restaurant.

The word is ochlocracy.

Ding-an-sich Wannabe May 24, 2014 3:20:52am

re: #97 Sergey Romanov

From earlier here:

valleywag.gawker.com

The word is ochlocracy.

Which sorta rhymes with assholocracy.

freetoken May 24, 2014 3:36:00am

re: #97 Sergey Romanov

I expect there will be much more backlash against the Glass-a-holes as we go forward. Even the comments on that article illustrate quite well the asininity of technoholics when they are fixed on their latest fix.

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freetoken May 24, 2014 4:06:00am

If I ran a public meeting space, such as a restaurant or bar or coffee shop, I too would have a “No Cameras” sign up, and that would include Glass.

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Ding-an-sich Wannabe May 24, 2014 4:13:02am

Youtube Video

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 4:16:28am

re: #13 FemNaziBitch

Exactly how old are you?

[Embedded image]

Old enough to remember that’s what teachers drew lines on the blackboard with. : )

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 4:19:55am

re: #97 Sergey Romanov

From earlier here:

valleywag.gawker.com

The word is ochlocracy.

Spoiled princess gets revenge? I hope more places ban those.

Once “connected” can some people never be not connected?

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Ding-an-sich Wannabe May 24, 2014 4:25:56am

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

Spoiled princess gets revenge? I hope more places ban those.

Once “connected” can some people never be not connected?

Imagine a hive-mind of those in the future. Could be worse than a bunch of Mantrid drones ;)

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freetoken May 24, 2014 4:30:38am

Sure enough the comments are starting to roll in over at NRO on the Williamson piece. Most are following the pathologies laid out by Isaac Chotiner this morning:

I Went on a Conservative Radio Show to Talk About Slavery Reparations. This Absurd, Hilarious Debate Ensued.

And finally the more upfront has entered the room:

JayWye • 5 minutes ago
If I were black, I would be THANKFUL that my ancestors were captured and brought to America,even to become slaves,because otherwise,I’ve have been born in the hellhole of Africa,never to be an American citizen,and would be FAR worse off,assuming my ancestors even managed to survive to keep my family’s line going.
“Reparations”? what a joke. They’re LUCKY they are US citizens.

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 4:35:38am

re: #104 Sergey Romanov

Imagine a hive-mind of those. Could be worse than a bunch of Mantrid drones ;)

Technophiles like her are becoming cult-like in their zealotry, and everything is permissible.

My 4 yr old great-grandson is allowed to take his latest toy in the car, but not into stores, etc. when we go out. He’s learning what behaviors allow consideration for others and what his own personal boundaries are when he’s in public.

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Ding-an-sich Wannabe May 24, 2014 4:42:50am

onoz

START YOUR EROTIC FRIEND FICTION ENGINES, BOB’S BURGERS IS GETTING A COMIC BOOK SERIES!

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freetoken May 24, 2014 4:59:44am

Oh, it’s going to be a wild day over there for the moderators… or not.

Dripping in like a leaky valve:

robinbuscato • 11 minutes ago
Look, blacks have been receiving reparations since 1963, and their awards only keep getting bigger with every year that passes, so whatever argument Mr. Williamson has against reparations is a moot point.
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silencedogoodreturns • 12 minutes ago
Honestly, where do they come up with their names these days? Do they think those are “African” names? They are not.

I wonder how Williamson ignores the actual clientele of NRO?

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A Mom Anon May 24, 2014 5:12:46am

re: #108 freetoken

Some people can ignore a lot if their paycheck depends on it. And if that’s kinda pretty much how they feel deep down. Or not so deep, depending. Money and name recognition. With just a bit of greed thrown in to make things sporty.

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 5:14:10am

Why is it that people who don’t want the govt to be able to “spy” on them (their words—I never really feel “spied” upon except for those CCTV cams which are put up for security purposes, I assume), yet they want to take the latest I-phone or other method of recording others wherever they go? In fact, they think it’s their right to do whatever they wish in public with no repercussions and with no considerations for others or their privacy. I’m more afraid of those types than I am of what they complain about.

I’m so sick of this kind of crap and people who think they’re not bound by any rules, regulations or laws.

Just as I wouldn’t want to dine in a place that allowed guns, neither would I want people using devices that might be filming me, either. Too many people mixing up their perceived “rights” in private places (the property of another) with behaviors that violate the rights of others who might also be there. The law says you can’t refuse to serve someone because you don’t like who they are, not what they do when you do serve them.

The law is not keeping up with technology very well, and I think only the self-absorbed wearing their own Google glasses would want to eat in the same place as others doing the same. They could record each other as much as they wanted, by implied consent, since they’d all be doing it to each other. After all, who would be the first hypocrite to complain?

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Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut May 24, 2014 5:29:14am

re: #107 Sergey Romanov

Have you checked out “Archer” yet?

And on a more literary front, I just read “The Goldfinch”, and it’s excellent.

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A Mom Anon May 24, 2014 5:29:42am

re: #110 Justanotherhuman

Our wisdom and common sense regarding all this technology isn’t caught up either (which is maybe connected to the legal stuff).

I have friends who have to selfie every freaking thing. It’s embarrassing, All those pictures look the same, people. Everyone, lean in, smile and let’s pretend it’s the BEST DAY EVAR!!! Gag. Especially when you know the people involved and know it’s crap, lol. I don’t get the need to photograph and record every blessed thing. Sure, some stuff is great, lovely, awesome, or should be in the old Archives for The Record, but please oh please, it’s not your drinks with girlfriends( that you see every day) at the restaurant or your trip to Kroger’s or WalMart. Enough already.

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Ding-an-sich Wannabe May 24, 2014 5:30:20am

re: #111 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Yeah, the first ep was a bit underwhelming, though I intend to keep watching :)

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freetoken May 24, 2014 5:30:23am

Why most of your science fiction stories are wrong:

Time Machines Would Run Afoul of the Second Law of Thermodynamics

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Targetpractice May 24, 2014 5:34:25am

re: #114 freetoken

Why most of your science fiction stories are wrong:

Time Machines Would Run Afoul of the Second Law of Thermodynamics

Let me dream, damnit!

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Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut May 24, 2014 5:38:37am

re: #113 Sergey Romanov

Yeah, the first ep was a bit underwhelming, though I intend to keep watching :)

It builds, the whole series does callbacks and there’s long plot arcs and stuff.

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Ding-an-sich Wannabe May 24, 2014 5:39:18am

re: #114 freetoken

Why most of your science fiction stories are wrong:

Time Machines Would Run Afoul of the Second Law of Thermodynamics

Either that, or it could be that our knowledge of fundamental laws is limited, and in the future this assertion will sound akin to “But won’t our ship fall off the edge of the Earth?”.

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freetoken May 24, 2014 5:41:51am

Australias PM, known to be cozy with climate change deniers, is finally getting his policies in place:

Australian science base eroded by budget cuts

Australia’s research community is reeling from what have been described as short sighted and politically motivated cuts, outlined in the new conservative government’s first budget.

[…]

CSIRO - the largest government research laboratory - faces cuts of A$111.4 million. It will lose 420-500 staff in the next year. Coming on top of 300 previously announced redundancies, this means the organisation will shrink by around 20% in just two years.

[…]

Environment, climate change and renewable energy are all big casualties of the budget - most notably the intended abolition of the Renewable Energy Agency that will save A$1.3 billion, and the A$10 billion Clean Energy Finance Corporation. A$162.9 million will be cut from the Carbon Capture and Storage flagship, and a commitment to 1 million solar roofs has been withdrawn.

Abandoning carbon pricing will cost the Australian treasury A$20 billion, while the mining corporations will get A$13 billion in subsidies through diesel fuel rebates, asset depreciation rules and offsetting the costs of exploration says Victoria McKenzie-McHarg, climate campaign manager at the Australian Conservation Foundation.

From 2016, the university funding model is changing so that universities will be able to decide their own course fees. Universities will have to cover an 8.5% drop in funding compared with what was promised in last year’s budget - and one which already included stringent cutbacks. Changes to the higher education loan programme mean interest rates payable by students taking out the loans will be set at the higher 10 year bond rate, rather than inflation.

[…]

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Feline Fearless Leader May 24, 2014 5:43:57am

Weekend software upgrade at work fizzled - so I have a free morning after getting up before 7am.

So, time to post some pictures. ;)

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wheat-dogghazi May 24, 2014 5:46:15am

re: #118 freetoken

Australia is America’s petri dish of conservative governance. They are doing there what our TPGOP would do here, if it weren’t for those pesky Democrats and the Usurper-in-Chief standing in their way.

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Feline Fearless Leader May 24, 2014 5:46:42am

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 5:47:56am

re: #112 A Mom Anon

Our wisdom and common sense regarding all this technology isn’t caught up either (which is maybe connected to the legal stuff).

I have friends who have to selfie every freaking thing. It’s embarrassing, All those pictures look the same, people. Everyone, lean in, smile and let’s pretend it’s the BEST DAY EVAR!!! Gag. Especially when you know the people involved and know it’s crap, lol. I don’t get the need to photograph and record every blessed thing. Sure, some stuff is great, lovely, awesome, or should be in the old Archives for The Record, but please oh please, it’s not your drinks with girlfriends( that you see every day) at the restaurant or your trip to Kroger’s or WalMart. Enough already.

Modesty: the quality or state of being unassuming or moderate in the estimation of one’s abilities.

Pretty much going out the window these days when everyone is “the greatest”. People’s ethical underpinnings are what impress me most, not their looks, their money, or anything else which seems to count these days. Maybe it’s a judgment on my part, and we’re not supposed to “judge” and trust any standards, according to those coming up, it seems, but it’s one I’m willing to make. We have enough pathologies going on without all this excessive vanity and narcissism which I think is a real sign of insecurity in a scary world.

Even friendships seem to have entered a kind of “What’s in it for me” phase. I mean, when you’re strapped for cash, experiencing ill health, or some other hardship, you find out who your real friends are, and vice versa.

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Feline Fearless Leader May 24, 2014 5:51:12am

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 5:52:49am

Gmail is down? I get a “temporarily unavailable” notice.

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Feline Fearless Leader May 24, 2014 5:53:45am

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freetoken May 24, 2014 5:54:48am

Meanwhile, over on the I’m-really-not-a-racist NRO:

Credit Man • a minute ago
Reparations? From what I’ve seen, they would be a joke. Al and Jessie would make off with all the dough just like the Black dictators do in the African countries.
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carltonwest • a minute ago
The descendants of slaves are the most fortunate black people in world history. If anyone should pay “reparations”, it is them.
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mcd1948 • a minute ago
Let see if I have this right; its racist for me to stereotype blacks as criminals or in any other manner but its NOT racist for them to force me to pay THEM for offenses I DIDN’T commit nor were THEY the victims of.

Thats not reparations. Thats simply extortion.

I won’t bore you with any more of the comments from there, but I still find amazing not just the cognitive dissonance but also how easy it is to get the stream flowing by the simplest of prodings.

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wheat-dogghazi May 24, 2014 5:57:58am

re: #126 freetoken

I notice these yokels are talking about paying money for reparations, which is not what TNC’s essay was about at all.

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freetoken May 24, 2014 5:59:26am

re: #127 wheat-dogghazi

I notice these yokels are talking about paying money for reparations, which is not what TNC’s essay was about at all.

What TNC actually wrote is hardly at issue here. Over at NRO they just need another excuse to prove they are not racists.

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Decatur Deb May 24, 2014 6:00:11am

‘Morning, all. Has this been posted overnight? Still waiting for Open Carry to run into Stand Your Ground:

Gunman kills six in drive-by shooting in California college town

reuters.com

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wheat-dogghazi May 24, 2014 6:00:12am

re: #128 freetoken

What TNC actually wrote is hardly at issue here. Over at NRO they just need another excuse to prove they are not racists.

… and completely failing at it.

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The Awkward Guy May 24, 2014 6:09:32am

re: #126 freetoken

The mere existence of non-whites is all that’s needed.

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Ding-an-sich Wannabe May 24, 2014 6:10:48am

re: #131 The Awkward Guy

The mere existence of non-whites is all that’s needed.

Finally you said something!!

;)

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 6:11:04am

Holy crap.

French mayor ‘castrated and killed by jealous husband’

bbc.com

“Mr Leboucher, a former insurance salesman, was only elected mayor of Bretteville-le-Rabet in Normandy in March, local media say.

(snip)

“Bretteville-le-Rabet is a small village in Normandy with fewer that 250 residents.

“Yannick Guesnon, one of the Mr Leboucher’s deputies, told AFP he did not believe the theory about the married mayor’s infidelity, adding that the attack appeared to be “an act of madness”. More

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The Awkward Guy May 24, 2014 6:12:24am

re: #132 Sergey Romanov

You know me. Always a dull moment.

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freetoken May 24, 2014 6:15:56am

Ok, I lied. I am going to post more comments before I saunter off.

They’ve finally pushing into Stormfront territory over there, as the news gets around that the NRO lead is on reparations:

bobby poon • 5 minutes ago
I would gladly pay their way back to their country of origin with a very nice check to go with it.
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WhatMightBe bobby poon • 3 minutes ago
Now that’s the best idea here.
I nominate the above post as the “Post of the day”.
Sadly nobody in Washington is that smart………..
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WhatMightBe • 8 minutes ago
I’m not Black so I really don’t get this idea of paying a person for being Black.

Help me out here.

Blacks want a check for being Black or they will what?
riot?
burn down their neighborhoods?
rob local stores?
kill folks?

Sounds like organized crime to me - the “Protection Racket business”………….

Now I’ll slither off.

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ObserverArt May 24, 2014 6:22:00am

re: #129 Decatur Deb

‘Morning, all. Has this been posted overnight? Still waiting for Open Carry to run into Stand Your Ground:

Gunman kills six in drive-by shooting in California college town

reuters.com

I was just going to post that when I saw you do it. This is just getting all too common anymore. Even on the local news here in Columbus when it was reported it was just like reporting a fire or traffic accident. 20 seconds with a dash of video showing a scene full of flashing-lights cop cars and on to the next story.

Sigh.

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Dark_Falcon May 24, 2014 6:25:48am

re: #58 William Barnett-Lewis

Don’t really know enough about that general - KT”s whining keeps me not wanting to bother - but this caught my eye:

Good for a Counter Insurgency but dead meat against any real enemy. For mud moving the 23’s are actually not too bad. Hang some rocket pods on those hard points and most will be cowering & looking for cover. But the 21’s & helos are not worth much in the real world.

Italics where edited.

The Hinds are good enough for the kind of role they are being used in. Ansar-al-Sharia in Benghazi isn’t nearly as good as the pro-Russian forces in Donetsk and provided the helicopters operate with an effective ground force any missileers can be spotted and engaged. It’s a risk, but the sort of firepower the Mi-24 carries gives the balance of advantage to the LNA.

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Ding-an-sich Wannabe May 24, 2014 6:27:26am

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Dark_Falcon May 24, 2014 6:31:00am

re: #136 ObserverArt

I was just going to post that when I saw you do it. This is just getting all too common anymore. Even on the local news here in Columbus when it was reported it was just like reporting a fire or traffic accident. 20 seconds with a dash of video showing a scene full of flashing-lights cop cars and on to the next story.

Sigh.

That having been said, it’s worth repeating that California’s gun laws did not stop this attack. But then again, even had the people who were shot been armed most them would have been hit anyways; There was simply no time to react.

There’s more analysis to be done of course, but I don’t have enough info to do it at this point.

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Killgore Trout May 24, 2014 6:35:05am

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

The city of Portland, OR has issued a ‘boil water’ notice after E. coli was detected in the city’s water supply. Not good.

katu.com

Portland has a cool new emergency alert system. My phone rang yesterday afternoon with an automated message about boiling my water. Pretty neat.

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Killgore Trout May 24, 2014 6:39:12am

Looks like Egypt is going to support the renegade general in Libya
Sisi says Egypt will not allow threats to security from Libya
I wouldn’t be surprised if we someday learn Egypt helped him get started.

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Killgore Trout May 24, 2014 6:40:48am

Al Shabaab attacks Somali parliament, four dead

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NJDhockeyfan May 24, 2014 6:48:54am

Good morning lizards.

Does this not fit in here or what?

Via @GoogleFacts pic.twitter.com/Kqk7Lh7w9U
— Weird Things to Know (@Know) May 20, 2014

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 6:49:02am

Is Not Knowing Something A Sign of Weakness? Creationists Think So

WEll, that explains a lot.

I guess I never quite understood that before.

Only the Patriarchal minded fear weakness.

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Dark_Falcon May 24, 2014 6:50:06am

re: #141 Killgore Trout

Looks like Egypt is going to support the renegade general in Libya
Sisi says Egypt will not allow threats to security from Libya
I wouldn’t be surprised if we someday learn Egypt helped him get started.

It’s a good thing, Killgore. Benghazi needs to be secured, and if Egypt is willing to support that effort then so much the better. Likely Gen. Sisi would also like another mentally stable military man in power next door and is being supportive on those grounds as well.

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 6:51:18am

It promises to be a lovely holiday weekend.

I have to clean

you?

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PhillyPretzel May 24, 2014 6:51:56am

re: #144 FemNaziBitch

Not knowing something means you got to hit the books and try to learn it. Oh. We are talking about Creationists. Hmm. Okay let them have that and I will read the books to try to learn it.

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 6:52:55am

Listen up, Republicans. This is a no-brainer.

Obama: US must do more to care for veterans

bigstory.ap.org

“In his weekly radio and Internet address, Obama is drawing a connection between Memorial Day and the scandal over allegations of misconduct at Veterans Affairs hospitals.

“Obama says recent weeks have shown how much more the U.S. must do to ensure veterans get the care they deserve. He says it’s a sacred obligation and one of the causes of his presidency.

(snip)

“In the Republican address, congressman Bill Shuster of Pennsylvania is promoting a Republican water projects bill that Congress passed this week. He says it demonstrates Republicans’ focus on jobs and government accountability.” More

On that last, yeah, right. It took you almost six years to cooperate with Dems, now they’re crowing that it was all their own idea, even though Pres Obama has been pushing infrastructure funding since he was elected.

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 6:54:20am

re: #146 FemNaziBitch

It promises to be a lovely holiday weekend.

I have to clean

you?

Shopping for 2 birthday presents and a kindergarten graduation present, among other shopping chores.

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Dark_Falcon May 24, 2014 7:01:33am

re: #148 Justanotherhuman

Listen up, Republicans. This is a no-brainer.

Obama: US must do more to care for veterans

bigstory.ap.org

“In his weekly radio and Internet address, Obama is drawing a connection between Memorial Day and the scandal over allegations of misconduct at Veterans Affairs hospitals.

“Obama says recent weeks have shown how much more the U.S. must do to ensure veterans get the care they deserve. He says it’s a sacred obligation and one of the causes of his presidency.

(snip)

“In the Republican address, congressman Bill Shuster of Pennsylvania is promoting a Republican water projects bill that Congress passed this week. He says it demonstrates Republicans’ focus on jobs and government accountability.” More

On that last, yeah, right. It took you almost six years to cooperate with Dems, now they’re crowing that it was all their own idea, even though Pres Obama has been pushing infrastructure funding since he was elected.

Reform is surely needed, but the disaster in Phoenix was not caused by lack of funds, it was caused by dishonest management first and foremost. A great deal of money that could have been used for care of veterans was misappropriated for things like interior decoration.

Structural reform of the DoVA is needed above all, and that Republicans can and should take the lead on. I’ll be back later to discuss how.

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NJDhockeyfan May 24, 2014 7:02:21am

MAD Magazine makes fun of Arianna & Co. with The Puffington Host. http://t.co/0p3XmqNrz3 http://t.co/FGlGK0qQB3
— Romenesko (@romenesko) May 23, 2014

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William Barnett-Lewis May 24, 2014 7:03:06am

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

Italics where edited.

The Hinds are good enough for the kind of role they are being used in. Ansar-al-Sharia in Benghazi isn’t nearly as good as the pro-Russian forces in Donetsk and provided the helicopters operate with an effective ground force any missileers can be spotted and engaged. It’s a risk, but the sort of firepower the Mi-24 carries gives the balance of advantage to the LNA.

To an extent but the anti-air is far more effective than it used to be (the change from Redeye to Stinger was what turned the tide in Afghanistan.) plus I thing they have 12.7’s & 14.5’s which are very effective for old fashioned AAA on the low & slow movers.

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Ding-an-sich Wannabe May 24, 2014 7:04:52am

re: #144 FemNaziBitch

Is Not Knowing Something A Sign of Weakness? Creationists Think So

WEll, that explains a lot.

I guess I never quite understood that before.

Only the Patriarchal minded fear weakness.

Exactly. I don’t know why the Universe exists or how life on Earth originated and I’m fine with that. Besides, ultimately creationists don’t know the answer to the ultimate question - why God exists. So we’re even and their worldview is not preferable to mine in what concerns the completeness of knowledge..

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 7:05:19am

re: #149 Justanotherhuman

Shopping for 2 birthday presents and a kindergarten graduation present, among other shopping chores.

oooh, fun!!!

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ObserverArt May 24, 2014 7:08:24am

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

Reform is surely needed, but the disaster in Phoenix was not caused by lack of funds, it was caused by dishonest management first and foremost. A great deal of money that could have been used for care of veterans was misappropriated for things like interior decoration.

Structural reform of the DoVA is needed above all, and that Republicans can and should take the lead on. I’ll be back later to discuss how.

How about this. BOTH parties should work together instead of any one party taking the lead. Screw partisan politics on something like the VA.

Stop seeing every damn thing as a scoreboard between Republican and Democrat. That is the bullshit that gets things to the point they are.

Grrrrr.

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William Barnett-Lewis May 24, 2014 7:08:26am

re: #148 Justanotherhuman

I called my teabagger senator the other day and cussed him out for voting against the VA bill and made sure he knew I was a vet & a democrat :)

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 7:08:26am

Following her retirement from the Army, athletics became a way of life for Ms. Stockwell. She completed multiple triathlons and marathons on an arm crank bike, learned to ski, and became a competitive swimmer and - most recently - a paratriathlete. In April 2008, Ms. Stockwell became the first OIF veteran to qualify for the Paralympics when she earned her spot on the US swim team. In the 2008 Beijing Paralympics, she represented the US in the 100 freestyle, 400 freestyle, and 100 butterfly. She was also selected to carry the American flag in the Beijing closing ceremonies. After Beijing Ms. Stockwell turned to the sport of triathlon. She became part of the 2010 and 2011 paratriathlon national team and won both paratriathlon world championships becoming a two-time world champion. Ms. Stockwell was also named the 2010, 2011, and 2012 paratriathlete of the year.

As I have said many times, we old people need to just get out of the way. Young People are already in charge, let them have it.

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Killgore Trout May 24, 2014 7:09:39am

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

It’s a good thing, Killgore. Benghazi needs to be secured, and if Egypt is willing to support that effort then so much the better. Likely Gen. Sisi would also like another mentally stable military man in power next door and is being supportive on those grounds as well.

Possibly but of course it depends on what happens after the Islamist militias are disarmed. It remains to be seen if Egypt is going to become/remain a secular democracy and how much freedom Sisi is going to allow. Same goes for Lybia.

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 7:09:50am

re: #157 FemNaziBitch

Images of this outstanding young person.

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NJDhockeyfan May 24, 2014 7:10:48am

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 7:21:29am

re: #154 FemNaziBitch

oooh, fun!!!

Well, they’re presents for a 6 and an 11 yr old, so there’s that. And even though I have to travel a bit to get to this party, I can leave my g-grandson there after I’ve had enough and he’ll spend the night w/them (they’re friends).

Thought I’d go see a movie while I’m on my own, but there’s not a damn one I’m interested in, all action figure or fantasy tripe. Thought “Million Dollar Arm” might be interesting (a drama) but, no—it’s about an American who goes to India to find a cricket player he might be able to train to be a top pitcher in baseball.

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 7:27:01am

re: #157 FemNaziBitch

As an old person, I refuse to “get out of the way”. Many of the technologies that are allowing young people to do these kinds of things weren’t invented by them, but by those who came before. We are all in this together, aren’t we?

I have respect for those who do what’s valuable for us as a species and moves us ahead in every aspect of our lives—not simply because of the group they belong to.

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ObserverArt May 24, 2014 7:29:05am

re: #156 William Barnett-Lewis

I called my teabagger senator the other day and cussed him out for voting against the VA bill and made sure he knew I was a vet & a democrat :)

Good for you William. As I said above to Dark_Falcon. Vets should be a concern of all and no party politics should be involved. Sad thing is it seems to be really difficult for some to not turn everything to “us” and “them.”

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 7:32:01am

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Ding-an-sich Wannabe May 24, 2014 7:34:19am

re: #164 FemNaziBitch

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And a sammich.

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 7:35:07am

My Life as A Dad
Youtube Video

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 7:36:59am

re: #163 ObserverArt

Good for you William. As I said above to Dark_Falcon. Vets should be a concern of all and no party politics should be involved. Sad thing is it seems to be really difficult for some to not turn everything to “us” and “them.”

Us and Them…

Youtube Video

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darthstar May 24, 2014 7:37:03am

re: #139 Dark_Falcon

That having been said, it’s worth repeating that California’s gun laws did not stop this attack. But then again, even had the people who were shot been armed most them would have been hit anyways; There was simply no time to react.

There’s more analysis to be done of course, but I don’t have enough info to do it at this point.

Drunk driving laws don’t stop people from driving drunk, so we should just get rid of those laws.

No, it’s not ‘worth repeating’…it’s a stupid thing to say and is completely irrelevant. Gun laws will reduce the chances of gun violence by reducing the number of guns available, but they will never stop some asshole from taking a weapon and opening fire on a crowd of people.

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 7:41:31am

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 7:42:33am

re: #168 darthstar

Drunk driving laws don’t stop people from driving drunk, so we should just get rid of those laws.

No, it’s not ‘worth repeating’…it’s a stupid thing to say and is completely irrelevant. Gun laws will reduce the chances of gun violence by reducing the number of guns available, but they will never stop some asshole from taking a weapon and opening fire on a crowd of people.

Insurance Premium’s keep people from driving drunk. Hit them in the pocket book.

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NJDhockeyfan May 24, 2014 7:42:38am

Getty Image

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 7:45:12am

re: #147 PhillyPretzel

Not knowing something means you got to hit the books and try to learn it. Oh. We are talking about Creationists. Hmm. Okay let them have that and I will read the books to try to learn it.

Yet, accepting that there such a thing as the ‘unknowable” is a sign of maturity. At some point, I had to accept that I don’t have the time, resources or inclination to master all the subjects I’d like to. In a sense, astrophysics is unknowable to me.

And, really, who can know G-d? By the very definition, a concept so immense, it is beyond the human brain to conceive.

“That than which nothing greater can be conceived”

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Ding-an-sich Wannabe May 24, 2014 7:46:42am

Given the Inflationary cosmological model with infinite universes, the origin of life can be explained through pure chance - what is nearly impossible in a single universe, is inevitable in the infinity of them. That model seems to have been confirmed recently, btw. And if the model with the eternal past is accepted (speculative but logically possible), then the question of the origin of the universe is also answered (namely, there was no ultimate origin as such). Now, these may look like deus ex machina explanations, and at least for the unconfirmed parts (eternal past) they are, but they are at least no worse than the god-explanation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth May 24, 2014 7:46:47am

Not funny, @realDonaldTrump. “Black people just don't have the smarts for business?” Glad you deleted it but still: offensive and racist.
— God (@TheTweetOfGod) May 24, 2014

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 7:47:43am

re: #169 FemNaziBitch

THE MOST POPULAR TOURIST ATTRACTION IN YOUR STATE IS DEFINITELY NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS — MAP

For Illinois, they say it’s the Bean.

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darthstar May 24, 2014 7:48:25am

re: #175 FemNaziBitch

For Illinois, they say it’s the Bean.
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That is a very nice bean.

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PhillyPretzel May 24, 2014 7:49:17am

re: #175 FemNaziBitch

In PA it is Gettysburg. My penny was on Valley Forge.

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 7:50:38am

For Wisconsin it’s the Basilica of St. Josaphat. Which, I actually wouldn’t mind seeing, now that I know it exists.

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darthstar May 24, 2014 7:50:39am

re: #177 PhillyPretzel

In PA it is Gettysburg. My penny was on Valley Forge.

Ours is the PCH…living on Highway 1 in the northern half of the state, I have to say I can understand why.

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 7:50:56am

re: #176 darthstar

That is a very nice bean.

as beans go … .

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 7:52:00am

Really, the Gateway Arch for Missouri is a no-brainer.

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Dr Lizardo May 24, 2014 7:52:07am

re: #140 Killgore Trout

Portland has a cool new emergency alert system. My phone rang yesterday afternoon with an automated message about boiling my water. Pretty neat.

That’s cool. I like that. We have nothing quite like that here. Well……we have air raid sirens.

But that’s about it.

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darthstar May 24, 2014 7:52:30am

re: #180 FemNaziBitch

as beans go … .

It could be worse…they could have installed a 30 foot chickpea.

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 7:52:57am

re: #182 Dr Lizardo

That’s cool. I like that. We have nothing quite like that here. Well……we have air raid sirens.

But that’s about it.

we have a txt and email system.

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FemNaziBitch May 24, 2014 7:53:17am

re: #183 darthstar

It could be worse…they could have installed a 30 foot chickpea.

legumes are important!

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aagcobb May 24, 2014 7:54:12am

re: #175 FemNaziBitch

For Illinois, they say it’s the Bean.
[Embedded image]

For Kentucky it says floodwall murals; I guessed Mammoth Cave. A recent new tourist attraction is the sinkhole in the Corvette Museum, which is drawing better than the Corvettes did.

p.s. I’m just glad it wasn’t the Creation Museum.

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darthstar May 24, 2014 7:54:41am

re: #181 FemNaziBitch

Really, the Gateway Arch for Missouri is a no-brainer.

A no-brainer in Missouri?

Thats where this guy is from.

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PhillyPretzel May 24, 2014 7:54:43am

re: #185 FemNaziBitch

30 foot chickpea.
That would make a boatload of hummus. lol

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 7:55:21am

Damn. This is sick.

Elliott Rodger’s retribution YouTube video linked to college shootings

Read more: businessinsider.com

fucked up people.

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Gus May 24, 2014 9:52:22am

Here's a transcript of chilling video that may hold clue to Isla Vista mass shooting near UCSB http://t.co/osUDMCILcu
— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) May 24, 2014

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Gus May 24, 2014 9:53:20am

Transcript

Hi, Elliot Rodger here.

Well… this is my last video. It all has to come to this.

Tomorrow is the day of retribution. The day in which I will have my revenge against humanity. Against all of you.

For the last 8 years of my life, ever since I’ve hit puberty, I’ve been forced to endure an existence of loneliness, rejection, and unfulfilled desires. All because girls have never been attracted to me.

Girls gave their affection, and sex, and love, to other men but never to me.

I’m 22 years old and I’m still a virgin. I’ve never even kissed a girl.

I’ve been through college for two and a half years, more than that actually, and I’m still a virgin.

It has been very torturous.

College is the time when everyone experiences those things such as sex, and fun, and pleasure. But in those years I’ve had to rot in loneliness.

It’s not fair. You girls have never been attracted to me.

I don’t know why you girls aren’t attracted to me, but I will punish you all for it.

It’s an injustice, a crime, because I don’t know what you don’t see in me. I’m the perfect guy, and yet you throw yourselves at all these obnoxious men, instead of me, the supreme gentlemen.

I will punish all of you for it. (laughs)

On the day of retribution I am going to enter the hottest sorority house of UCSB… and I will slaughter every single spoiled, stuck-up, blonde slut I see inside there.

All those girls that I’ve desired so much, they would’ve all rejected me and looked down upon me as an inferior man if I ever made a sexual advance towards them while they throw themselves at these obnoxious brutes.

I will take great pleasure in slaughtering all of you.

You will finally see that I am in truth the superior one. The true alpha male. (laughs)

Yes, after I’ve annihilated every single girl in the sorority house, I’ll take to the streets of Isla Vista, and slay every single person I see there.

All those popular kids who live such lives of hedonistic pleasure while I’ve had to rot in loneliness for all these years, they’ve all looked down upon me every time I try to go out and join them. They’ve all treated me like a mouse.

Well now, I will be a God compared to you. You will all be animals. You are animals, and I will slaughter you like animals. I will be a God, exacting my retribution, on all those who deserve it.

And you do deserve it, just for the crime of living a better life than me.

All you popular kids. You’ve never accepted me, and now you’ll all pay for it.

And girls, all I’ve ever wanted was to love you, and to be loved by you. I’ve wanted a girlfriend, I’ve wanted sex, I’ve wanted love, affection, adoration, but you think I’m unworthy of it.

That’s a crime that can never be forgiven.

If I can’t have you, girls, I will destroy you. (laughs)

You denied me a happy life, and in turn, I will deny all of you life. (laughs) It’s only fair.

I hate all of you, humanity is a disgusting, wretched, depraved species. If I had it in my power, I would stop at nothing, to reduce every single one of you to mountains of skulls and rivers of blood, and rightfully so.

You deserve to be annihilated. And I’ll give that to you.

You never showed me any mercy, and so I will show you none. (laughs)

You force me to suffer all my life, and now I’ll make you all suffer.

I’ve waited a long time for this.

I’ll give you exactly what you deserve.

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 9:53:31am

re: #247 prairiefire

The lilacs here in the mid west used to be very beautiful. Global warming has reduced them to twiggy shrubs with few flowers. Sad. Remember when you could walk down the street and the bushes would make the whole block smell like lilacs?

Yes, I loved spring up north, even if we did have to wear light wool “spring” coats. : ) We had navy blue ones with white linen collars bought specifically for Easter and patent leather shoes to wear to mass; it could be chilly almost until June.

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 9:55:14am

re: #249 Gus

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What is an MRA? A misogynistic rage addict?

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wrenchwench May 24, 2014 9:57:29am

I like that this was tweeted by Mr. Skellett.

One obviously for @bellebissett and @ChirurgeonsAppr: street-art on drain in Paris, via BoredPanda: pic.twitter.com/FIJlH8FgHF
— Tim Skellett (@Gurdur) May 24, 2014

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Stanley Sea May 24, 2014 10:00:28am

re: #251 Stanley Sea

Read more: businessinsider.com

fucked up people.

They fed each other with their self pity.

Involuntary celibates.

damn.

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Skip Intro May 24, 2014 10:00:50am

re: #255 Justanotherhuman

What is an MRA? A misogynistic rage addict?

Looks like it.

An MRA is a troglodyte that writes “women’s rights —- ROFLOL!” and “a woman is the useless skin around the vagina” on Urban Dictionary.

urbandictionary.com

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darthstar May 24, 2014 10:02:35am

Gun revenge fantasies abt sorority girls is mental illness, but gun revenge fantasies abt Bureau of Land Management cowhands is patriotism.
— David Waldman (@KagroX) May 24, 2014

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Gus May 24, 2014 10:03:37am

Some good death news.

9 Afghan insurgents die after the bomb they were planting explodes prematurely - Pajhwok
— PzFeed Top News (@PzFeed) May 24, 2014

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thedopefishlives May 24, 2014 10:04:34am

re: #257 Stanley Sea

They fed each other with their self pity.

Involuntary celibates.

damn.

I wouldn’t give them the dignity of saying their celibacy is “involuntary”. It’s solely because they are so arrogant that they feel they deserve the hottest woman in the room. If they set realistic standards for themselves instead of wallowing in the indignity of getting rejected by someone who is clearly out of their league, maybe they wouldn’t be going home alone every night.

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darthstar May 24, 2014 10:10:29am

I'll show all you stuck-up blonde bureaucrats! pic.twitter.com/pBbtGQlkqA
— David Waldman (@KagroX) May 24, 2014

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Killgore Trout May 24, 2014 10:13:26am

re: #260 Gus

Some good death news.

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Work accident

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thedopefishlives May 24, 2014 10:14:02am

re: #260 Gus

Some good death news.

[Embedded content]

Splodeydope, now with more splodey. Still the same amount of dope, though.

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Gus May 24, 2014 10:14:18am

re: #263 Killgore Trout

Work accident

“Red wire.”

“No! Black wi…”

BOOM!

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Stanley Sea May 24, 2014 10:14:45am

#ElliotRodger google plus page https://t.co/n72EK6iiiV Very sad. #mentalillnessandginsdonotgotogether

— liberalease (@liberalease) May 24, 2014

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Stanley Sea May 24, 2014 10:15:29am

The banality of the Isla Vista killer's videos cannot be underestimated. “$300 sunglasses - Georgio Armani!” http://t.co/JfwJLcXUNl

— Steve Silberman (@stevesilberman) May 24, 2014

Check the vids on the google plus page.

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Gus May 24, 2014 10:17:11am

re: #266 Stanley Sea

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Gin?

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Stanley Sea May 24, 2014 10:18:36am

re: #268 Gus

Gin?

Adequate. I don’t necessarily endorse the failed hashtag.

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 10:20:30am

re: #267 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Check the vids on the google plus page.

And a new BMW—not the low priced ones, either. Did he think his own status and wealthy background was enough for women? He had a very shallow understanding of human beings.

Everything was all about him, not others.

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Gus May 24, 2014 10:21:59am

re: #269 Stanley Sea

Adequate. I don’t necessarily endorse the failed hashtag.

Yeah, the “i” is right next to the “u.”

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Stanley Sea May 24, 2014 10:22:06am

Officially unsettled now after watching the videos.

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Stanley Sea May 24, 2014 10:24:38am

Sis-in-law is basically a genius. pic.twitter.com/U6K09EiHPn

— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) May 24, 2014

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Ding-an-sich Wannabe May 24, 2014 10:26:06am

re: #255 Justanotherhuman

What is an MRA? A misogynistic rage addict?

MRA is something like NAAWP.

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blueraven May 24, 2014 10:26:37am

.re: #268 Gus

Gin?

think she meant guns

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Gus May 24, 2014 10:27:09am

re: #275 blueraven

.

think she meant guns

Yes.

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thedopefishlives May 24, 2014 10:27:12am

re: #270 Justanotherhuman

And a new BMW—not the low priced ones, either. Did he think his own status and wealthy background was enough for women? He had a very shallow understanding of human beings.

Everything was all about him, not others.

And this is what they don’t understand. Unlike in movies and TV, women do not automatically swoon over a man with enormous wealth or godlike physical features. Some women might, but as an aggregate, women are complicated. It’s just not that simple to get A. Specific Woman to like you.

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Killgore Trout May 24, 2014 10:29:50am

Seth Rogen & Snoop Recap Game of Thrones

Youtube Video
NSFW language

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 10:31:05am

re: #274 Sergey Romanov

MRA is something like NAAWP.

Soooo, what’s NAAWP? I’m not into all those—the first one was a guess. : )

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blueraven May 24, 2014 10:31:06am

re: #273 Stanley Sea

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OMG Ninja Turtles are still a thing?

Remember having a NT theme party for my son, maybe 15 years ago.
My layout wasn’t quite that creative!

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 10:32:51am

re: #273 Stanley Sea

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Sis in law could do that for a living. : ) Very clever. Must be for a 4 yr old—yes, they still like the Ninja Turtles if my g-grandson is any barometer.

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Gus May 24, 2014 10:37:55am

Fire up the Jim Hoft spin machine!

CA gunman officially identified as 22-year-old Elliot Rodger, son of 'Hunger Games' assistant director Peter Rodger - ABC7
— PzFeed Top News (@PzFeed) May 24, 2014

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Ryan King May 24, 2014 10:38:09am

33 public mass shootings in America in the last 9 years alone: http://t.co/X7ITSpVk64 #SantaBarbara pic.twitter.com/5nT59E2fe5

— Mark Follman (@markfollman) May 24, 2014

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wrenchwench May 24, 2014 10:38:40am

re: #267 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Check the vids on the google plus page.

It’s too late to tell that asshole now, but girls are repulsed by self-absorbed douches. Don’t be a self-absorbed douche.

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Gus May 24, 2014 10:41:09am

I blame bike helmet laws.
— The Atlantic

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Ding-an-sich Wannabe May 24, 2014 10:41:37am

re: #279 Justanotherhuman

Men’s rights advocate.
National Association for the Advancement of White People.

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Ryan King May 24, 2014 10:45:24am

re: #286 Sergey Romanov

Men’s rights advocate.
National Association for the Advancement of White People.

joined together = White Mens Rights Advocates

The stupid burns really bad along with a dull throbbing pain.

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 10:46:07am

Dad has lawyered up.

Update: Gunman in shootings near UC Santa Barbara identified as Elliot Rodger by attorney representing his father - @abc7newsBayArea
see original on twitter.com

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Gus May 24, 2014 10:46:52am

@omgmovie

One Filmaker, 23 Countries, One Question, What is God? A Film by Peter Rodger

omgmovie.com

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Gus May 24, 2014 10:48:43am

Californian gunman's family say he was receiving psychiatric treatment and confirm his name as Elliot Rodger http://t.co/yLrRnykgIg
— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) May 24, 2014

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A Mom Anon May 24, 2014 10:50:13am

re: #248 Stanley Sea

And once again autism and Asperger’s is brought into it. I. Just. Can’t. (runs away screaming expletives….)

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blueraven May 24, 2014 10:51:15am

re: #288 Justanotherhuman

Dad has lawyered up.

Update: Gunman in shootings near UC Santa Barbara identified as Elliot Rodger by attorney representing his father - @abc7newsBayArea
see original on twitter.com

He probably already had an attorney and is using him for spokesperson.
Sad, for parents when something like this happens. He may, or may not have contributed to his son’s illness.

We just don’t know. Not yet anyway.

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 10:52:24am

re: #289 Gus

@omgmovie

One Filmaker, 23 Countries, One Question, What is God? A Film by Peter Rodger

omgmovie.com

According to his FB page, Rodger is into New Age BS.

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prairiefire May 24, 2014 10:52:46am

re: #261 thedopefishlives

I wouldn’t give them the dignity of saying their celibacy is “involuntary”. It’s solely because they are so arrogant that they feel they deserve the hottest woman in the room. If they set realistic standards for themselves instead of wallowing in the indignity of getting rejected by someone who is clearly out of their league, maybe they wouldn’t be going home alone every night.

It is all about realistic standards! : )

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Skip Intro May 24, 2014 10:56:11am

re: #294 prairiefire

It is all about realistic standards! : )

Rich kids don’t need realistic standards; all they need is money and be willing to spend it.

If Donald Sterling can get laid, this kid could have gotten laid. He’d just have to use a pro. I’m sure his dad could have helped him out there.

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 10:58:16am

re: #291 A Mom Anon

And once again autism and Asperger’s is brought into it. I. Just. Can’t. (runs away screaming expletives….)

There’s no evidence yet he suffered from either of those and at any rate, young, ignorant and spiteful adults can be extremely hateful. They never get out of middle school mode.

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sattv4u2 May 24, 2014 10:58:24am

re: #295 Skip Intro

Rich kids don’t need realistic standards; all they need is money and be willing to spend it.

If Donald Sterling can get laid, this kid could have gotten laid. He’d just have to use a pro. I’m sure his dad could have helped him out there.

Not necessarily

Even pros have standards!!!

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prairiefire May 24, 2014 10:59:06am

re: #295 Skip Intro
I wish there was a companion service for introverted men with no money. There would be a lot more happier dudebros.

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Gus May 24, 2014 10:59:19am

Twitter is almost reaching sandwich board and bullhorn levels of conflicting paradoxes.

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Stanley Sea May 24, 2014 10:59:30am

re: #294 prairiefire

It is all about realistic standards! : )

Just what my BF said. I was a little hurt!

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sattv4u2 May 24, 2014 11:00:00am

re: #298 prairiefire

I wish there was a companion service for introverted men with no money. There would be a lot more happier dudebros.

There is

It’s called Self Help !!!

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prairiefire May 24, 2014 11:02:37am

re: #300 Stanley Sea

Just what my BF said. I was a little hurt!

Ha! At least being flat chested weeded out all the body sensitive types for me!

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 11:02:51am

re: #296 Justanotherhuman

There’s no evidence yet he suffered from either of those and at any rate, young, ignorant and spiteful adults can be extremely hateful. They never get out of middle school mode.

Never mind. Asperger’s was diagnosed when Rodger was a child? And yet, he was “highly functional”? It’s a condition I don’t quite understand, but it doesn’t seem that it should be an impediment to a successful life.

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Killgore Trout May 24, 2014 11:03:19am

re: #299 Gus

Twitter is almost reaching sandwich board and bullhorn levels of conflicting paradoxes.

Yeah, the signal to noise ratio on twitter is miserable.

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Stanley Sea May 24, 2014 11:05:19am

RT @sellitman: @LuvKittensDaily @hardknoxfirst pic.twitter.com/v9eZ0MIm4d

— hardknoxfirst (@hardknoxfirst) May 24, 2014

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De Kolta Chair May 24, 2014 11:05:21am

Happy 73rd birthday Bob Dylan!

I want be with you in paradise
And it seems so unfair
I can’t go to paradise no more
I killed a man back there

You think I’m over the hill
You think I’m past my prime
Let me see what you got
We can have a whoppin’ good time

— Spirit on The Water

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Gus May 24, 2014 11:05:26am

re: #304 Killgore Trout

Yeah, the signal to noise ratio on twitter is miserable.

Mental illness. Not mental illness. Like duck season vs. rabbit season. That’s just one aspect.

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klys May 24, 2014 11:06:21am

re: #261 thedopefishlives

I wouldn’t give them the dignity of saying their celibacy is “involuntary”. It’s solely because they are so arrogant that they feel they deserve the hottest woman in the room. If they set realistic standards for themselves instead of wallowing in the indignity of getting rejected by someone who is clearly out of their league, maybe they wouldn’t be going home alone every night.

It’s not just realistic standards for themselves, it’s about treating women as people and not sex machines placed on the planet for their own gratification.

We do notice things like that, and it’s a giant turn-off.

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Killgore Trout May 24, 2014 11:06:54am

Today’s twitter outrage: MSNBC’s Touré Chalks Up Holocaust Survival to ‘The Power of Whiteness’

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Gus May 24, 2014 11:07:07am

What was the weapon?

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Gus May 24, 2014 11:08:31am

Look out Charles!

This fucking guy. https://t.co/qxCR9QIQmX https://t.co/gW8TsRO3rH
— Elizabeth Catherine (@leftleaningec) May 24, 2014

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Killgore Trout May 24, 2014 11:08:49am

re: #307 Gus

Mental illness. Not mental illness. Like duck season vs. rabbit season. That’s just one aspect.

It would be an interesting discussion to earn what happened, why and how best to deal with the problem. But everybody is too eager to exploit the tragedy to advance an agenda regardless of how relevant to solution is to the problem.

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simoom May 24, 2014 11:10:13am

PDF mirror of the gunman’s posts to a bodybuilding forum:
docdroid.net

I’ve only had time to skim the first couple pages. He claims that his parents discovered his videos and he briefly took them down, perhaps about a week ago.

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De Kolta Chair May 24, 2014 11:12:40am

re: #310 Gus

What was the weapon?

My cruel weapons have been put on the shelf
Come sit down on my knee
You are dearer to me than myself
As you yourself can see
I’m listenin’ to the steel rails hum
Got both eyes tight shut
Just sitting here trying to keep the hunger from
Creeping it’s way into my gut

Meet me at the bottom, don’t lag behind
Bring me my boots and shoes
You can hang back or fight your best on the front line
Sing a little bit of these workingman’s blues

— Workingman’s Blues #2

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wrenchwench May 24, 2014 11:12:59am

re: #312 Killgore Trout

It would be an interesting discussion to earn what happened, why and how best to deal with the problem. But everybody is too eager to exploit the tragedy to advance an agenda regardless of how relevant to solution is to the problem.

When part of the problem is patriarchy, expect patriarchy to be discussed.

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Justanotherhuman May 24, 2014 11:14:36am

I googled Asperger’s Syndrome…

“a developmental disorder related to autism and characterized by higher than average intellectual ability coupled with impaired social skills and restrictive, repetitive patterns of interest and activities.”

That sounds like me when I was younger, but I did do well in school, always made As. I was painfully shy as a child (my mother’s death didn’t help) and not well adjusted socially until I reached my 30s. One therapist called me “sociopathic” and I never quite understood why, unless it was my politics, but it was my politics which opened my eyes to a greater understanding of my position as a woman. I didn’t have much use for therapists after that.

I think people are all different and often wonder why we can’t accept those differences in personalities and eccentricities when they are not threatening or harmful to oneself or others. But who determines that?

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Shiplord Kirel May 24, 2014 11:14:41am

Damn damn damn!
Cal Santa Barbara was one of my very favorite places when I was in SoCal as a young person, now I see it shot up like a back street in Baghdad.

Don’t know what else to say. We’ll hear more about the shooter especially if his old man is a celebrity. I really don’t much care about him or his motives. God, if any, can have mercy on him. I wouldn’t though.

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NJDhockeyfan May 24, 2014 11:15:19am

re: #309 Killgore Trout

Today’s twitter outrage: MSNBC’s Touré Chalks Up Holocaust Survival to ‘The Power of Whiteness’

Lots of outrage in response. Here is the tweet.

The power of whiteness: RT @hope_and_chains: My family survived a concentration camp, came to the US w/ nothing, LEGALLY, and made it work.
— Touré (@Toure) May 23, 2014

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Killgore Trout May 24, 2014 11:18:20am

re: #318 NJDhockeyfan

Lots of outrage in response. Here is the tweet.

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If the outrage continues he’ll apologize and we’ll all forget by next week when there’s another outrage.

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wrenchwench May 24, 2014 11:22:35am

re: #318 NJDhockeyfan

Lots of outrage in response. Here is the tweet.

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It’s not outrageous to note that white people have privilege in the US, even when they are survivors of a concentration camp.

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NJDhockeyfan May 24, 2014 11:24:45am

re: #320 wrenchwench

It’s not outrageous to note that white people have privilege in the US, even when they are survivors of a concentration camp.

That’s not how most people are reading it. Here is a mild tweet. There are many more that are very upset and I don’t blame them.

.@Toure You are by far one of the most privileged people on the planet, but please tell us more about how easy holocaust survivors had it.
— AG (@AG_Conservative) May 24, 2014

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wrenchwench May 24, 2014 11:27:07am

re: #321 NJDhockeyfan

That’s not how most people are reading it. Here is a mild tweet. There are many more that are very upset and I don’t blame them.

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Obviously people like you and Killgore enjoy a good outrage over this shit. I don’t care. I am pushing back because my opinion is that it’s bullshit.

You want to take the side of a guy posting as ‘Dat’s Racis’ ’ as being more valid than a guy born in Nigeria, it says lots about you and nothing about them.

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wrenchwench May 24, 2014 11:30:10am

re: #322 wrenchwench

Obviously people like you and Killgore enjoy a good outrage over this shit. I don’t care. I am pushing back because my opinion is that it’s bullshit.

You want to take the side of a guy posting as ‘Dat’s Racis’ ’ as being more valid than a guy born in Nigeria, it says lots about you and nothing about them.

Oops, born in Boston, not Nigeria.

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sattv4u2 May 24, 2014 11:32:29am

re: #323 wrenchwench

Oops, born in Boston, not Nigeria.

Outrageous!

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De Kolta Chair May 24, 2014 11:39:40am

Another internet outrage that’s done gone over my head. Perhaps someone could explain it to me.

A friend of mine survived Dachau. After the war she married a gentleman who escaped a train heading there on which he had met her parents, who asked him to look her up and look out for her after the shit was over (and he did; he was as tough a bird as she was). They worked the black market in eastern Europe for a few years before immigrating to Peekskill, NY, where they actively supported the civil rights movement. The reason I bring it up is they never bragged about it. It was just a given to them to demand fair play for all.

My Irish Catholic grandparents all came from Montreal sans papers and in due course became US citizens. As far as I know, there were no torch wielding mobs demanding they be thrown out of Worcester, Massachusetts for being here illegally.

Like I said, perhaps someone could explain it to me.

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CuriousLurker May 24, 2014 1:27:24pm

re: #320 wrenchwench

It’s not outrageous to note that white people have privilege in the US, even when they are survivors of a concentration camp.

Indeed. Touré—who I’d never heard of before this thread—was clearly not attributing Holocaust survival to the “power of whiteness” as the Mediaite article disingenuously states, he was referring to their ability to “pass” once in the U.S.

But, hey, click bait outrage is what it’s all about these days. Funny that those who so vociferously bemoan the tactic are also guilty of promoting it, huh?

Anyone who claims that immigrants who could “pass” didn’t benefit from doing so is either lying or stupid. This would’ve been especially true for Jews, who have dealt with antisemitism for thousands of years. Who has never met anyone whose family’s Jewish/Italian/Polish/whatever surname wasn’t changed at some point to make it sound more WASP-ish? Precious few I would think, at least from the baby boomer generation.

Oh, and the U.S. governement backs me up on the name change thing:

Despite these facts, the Ellis-Island-name-change-story (or Castle Garden, or earlier versions of the same story) is as American as apple pie (and probably as common in Canada too, eh?). Why?

The explanation lies in ideas as simple as language and cultural differences, and as complex as the root of American culture. We all know names have been Anglicized in America (even the word “Anglicized” has been Americanized!). As any kindergartener learns, we live in a world where people ask our name then write it down without asking us how to spell or pronounce that name. Once in America, immigrants were typically asked their name and entered into official records by those who had “made it” in America and thus were already English-speaking (i.e., teachers, landlords, employers, judges etc.). The fact that those with the power to create official records were English-speaking explains much about small changes, over time, in the spelling of certain names.

Many immigrants welcomed this change. Anyone from Eastern Europe, with a name long on consonants and short on vowels, learned that his name often got in the way of a job interview or became the subject of ridicule at his child’s school. Any change that might smooth their way to the American dream was seen as a step in the right direction. Perhaps this was the case with Mr. Smiley. It was the case of another family from Russia, named Smiloff or Smilikoff, who emigrated to Canada at the turn of the century. By the time their son immigrated from Canada to the US in 1911, his name had become Smiley. […]

uscis.gov

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CuriousLurker May 24, 2014 1:44:16pm

re: #326 CuriousLurker

P.S. Also see the 1947 film Gentleman’s Agreement, which was considered quite controversial for its time because it dealt with antisemitism. The main character, a gentile journalist (Gregory Peck), goes “undercover” as a Jew to gather info for an article on antisemitism.

Oh, and:

Production

Zanuck decided to make a film version of Hobson’s novel after being refused membership in the Los Angeles Country Club, because it was assumed incorrectly that he was Jewish. Before filming commenced, Samuel Goldwyn and other Jewish film executives approached Darryl Zanuck and asked him not to make the film, fearing it would “stir up trouble”. They also warned that Hays Code enforcer, Joseph Breen, might not allow the film to pass the censors, as he had been known to make disparaging remarks about Jews. There was also concern that Dorothy McGuire’s character’s being divorced would offend the National Legion of Decency.

en.wikipedia.org

So, yeah, in post-WWII America there were distinct benefits for Jews who could “pass”, and disadvantages for any gentile mistakenly assumed to be Jewish.

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wrenchwench May 24, 2014 3:06:07pm

re: #327 CuriousLurker

There was also concern that Dorothy McGuire’s character’s being divorced would offend the National Legion of Decency.

Can you imagine having something called the National Legion of Decency, to which film makers deferred?

Seems like those times are trying to coming back.

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CuriousLurker May 24, 2014 4:14:07pm

re: #328 wrenchwench

Can you imagine having something called the National Legion of Decency, to which film makers deferred?

Seems like those times are trying to coming back.

Yep, they sure are. If you’d asked me if I could imagine it six years ago I’d have said “no”, but nowadays it doesn’t seem so farfetched.

BTW, the very next paragraph on the Wiki page:

The political nature of the film, however, upset the House Un-American Activities Committee, with Elia Kazan, Darryl Zanuck, John Garfield, and Anne Revere all being called to testify before the committee.

Eerie similarities, huh? Especially since the House is where most of the TPers are. I guess on the Senate side Ted Cruz would be McCarthy—creepy how much they look alike, innit? McCarthy looked way more like he could’ve been Cruz’s dad than the actual real one.

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