Suddenly Breitbart "News" Loves the Pope

Suddenly Breitbart “News” Loves the Pope

All it took was a meeting with their latest anti-gay heroine

PoliticsSeptember 2015 • Views: 53,734

The dim-witted propagandists of Breitbart “News” have been viciously attacking Pope Francis for the past two weeks, accusing the Pope of “slapping conservatives,” “dissing” their hero Donald Trump, “failing social conservatives,” pandering to “LGBT activists” and the “big gay hate machine,” coddling undocumented immigrants, bashing free markets, falling for the “hoax” of climate change, and even “condemning millions to unspeakable misery.”

There are literally dozens of posts at Breitbart “News” bashing Pope Francis for everything he did on his trip to the US, and most of them repeat the refrain that above all, Pope Francis should stick to religious issues and keep his nose out of American politics.

But suddenly today, they’re singing the Pope’s praises and congratulating him for sticking his nose into American politics — and you can probably guess why: Huckabee: Pope Congratulated Kim Davis for Stand Against ‘Tyranny’.

However, the slobbering hordes of knuckle-dragging right wing commenters that complete the Breitbart business model are not so easily mollified.

Huckabee is a jacka$$ and the Pope is a socialist who should stay in the Vatican and keep his mouth shut!!!

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What a coward the Pope is. Met in secret. Kim Davis had more courage.

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you sick fcks got homosexuality accepted and celebrated, and next on your list is pedophilia

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I’m thinking the Pope has a boatload of hypocrisy to dole out to the world.

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Why is Huckleberry even still around?? He’s in the bottom 3 among the GOP Prez Candidate Clowns still hanging around, and waiting for what?? ….. for “GAWD” to anoint him the GOP Candidate?? He’s like a little annoying rat-dog that won’t go away, yaps constantly, and peees on people’s shoes.. Go away Huckleberry!! Shoo!! Shoo!!

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Great the socialist Pope meets in private to show support. Hey Pope, you want to show some real leadership then this should have been your topic to our senate and congress and president versus a PRIVATE meeting. Show some real backbone and show the world that you believe in what you are preaching too.

Thousands of comments in this vein, with very few positive toward Pope Francis.

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353 comments

b.d. Sep 30, 2015 • 1:09:49pm

They’re your crowd now Frank, hope you like them.

Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Sep 30, 2015 • 1:10:33pm

Huckabee is a jacka$$ and the Pope is a socialist who should stay in the Vatican and keep his mouth shut!!!
…..

Why is Huckleberry even still around?? He’s in the bottom 3 among the GOP Prez Candidate Clowns still hanging around, and waiting for what?? ….. for “GAWD” to anoint him the GOP Candidate?? He’s like a little annoying rat-dog that won’t go away, yaps constantly, and peees on people’s shoes.. Go away Huckleberry!! Shoo!! Shoo!!

Bwwaaahahahha

Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 1:13:01pm

Many liberals liked the Pope, until they suddenly didn’t, even though all the signs had been there.

Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Sep 30, 2015 • 1:13:55pm

you sick fcks got homosexuality accepted and celebrated, and next on your list is pedophilia

These sure sound like some swell people. Nice job, Dead Breitbarts, bringing these malcontents together.

BlueGrl21 Sep 30, 2015 • 1:14:11pm

You know….I am not a supporter of any church that would have me for a member these days, but the term “Judicial Tyranny” is not a term that rings right with this pope. This whole story doesn’t seem right.

But then, it’s Breitbart and a day ending in Y, so there’s that.

Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 1:15:12pm

re: #5 BlueGrl21

You know….I am not a supporter of any church that would have me for a member these days, but the term “Judicial Tyranny” is not a term that rings right with this pope. This whole story doesn’t seem right.

But then, it’s Breitbart and a day ending in Y, so there’s that.

Those are Huck’s words, not the Pope’s.

wrenchwench Sep 30, 2015 • 1:16:33pm

I saw the pope kiss a little girl in public, and her only agenda was acceptance of her parents by the country she was born in. IN PUBLIC!

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:17:04pm

re: #3 Nyet

Many liberals liked the Pope, until they suddenly didn’t, even though all the signs had been there.

You were calling out this Pope as early as the Irish SSM referendum maybe even earlier. Anyhow, my honest thoughts are that I still appreciate that this Pope is more willing to talk about climate change and poverty and to a large degree seems to live his message fairly consistently but at the same time, I do feel disappointment in this. Can’t really explain it. I think even though I’m only baptized Catholic, I still have some cultural attachments with Catholicism that come with my mom’s parents having been quite devout.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 1:18:07pm

america’s worst human titleholder ted cruz sending out desperate, apocalyptic appeals for campaign funds

Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Sep 30, 2015 • 1:18:47pm

re: #9 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

america’s worst human titleholder ted cruz sending out desperate, apocalyptic appeals for campaign funds

I MIGHT HAVE TO DROP OUT AND THEN WHERE WILL AMERICA BE??????!??!??!

Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 1:18:49pm

Tim Minchin - Pope Song

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:18:51pm

re: #9 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

america’s worst human titleholder ted cruz sending out desperate, apocalyptic appeals for campaign funds

He’s done. He’s never going to be the Republican Obama. He won’t even be the Republican Mike Gravel at this rate.

nines09 Sep 30, 2015 • 1:19:07pm

Even though the (this) Pope said some encouraging things, the Roman Catholic Church is still not a thing that I would impose upon my family.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 1:19:26pm

I don’t get why people expected the Pope to do anything other than object to SSM.

BlueGrl21 Sep 30, 2015 • 1:19:49pm

re: #6 Nyet

Those are Huck’s words, not the Pope’s.

Yep, caught that. Looks like the usual suspects decided to run screaming through the right-wing universe with a new toy in their hands.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 1:20:53pm

re: #9 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

america’s worst human titleholder ted cruz sending out desperate, apocalyptic appeals for campaign funds

“Since TWO of my fellow conservative candidates have been forced to drop out due to lack of funds, it is more urgent now than ever that I have your support before the hard cutoff of my fundraising deadline on Sept. 30,” Cruz wrote his email list.

cnn.com

Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Sep 30, 2015 • 1:21:46pm

re: #14 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t get why people expected the Pope to do anything other than object to SSM.

Yes, this is not surprising. I am surprised he hasn’t been wall to wall OMG Political correctness, moral relativism, BUT THE FAMILY, abortionabortionabortion!!!!11 like his predecessors.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 1:21:55pm

re: #13 nines09

Even though the (this) Pope said some encouraging things, the Roman Catholic Church is still not a thing that I would impose upon my family.

Even my very liberal Christian relatives - some more liberal than I - wouldn’t get me to impose any form of Christianity on my family. It isn’t the liberal/conservative balance, it’s the sense/nonsense balance.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 1:22:15pm

CRVZ ITE AD DOMUM

KGxvi Sep 30, 2015 • 1:22:20pm

re: #10 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I MIGHT HAVE TO DROP OUT AND THEN WHERE WILL AMERICA BE??????!??!??!

In a better place, Ted. In a better place.

Charles Johnson Sep 30, 2015 • 1:22:26pm

re: #14 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t get why people expected the Pope to do anything other than object to SSM.

It’s almost as if the Pope is Catholic.

EPR-radar Sep 30, 2015 • 1:22:51pm

re: #14 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t get why people expected the Pope to do anything other than object to SSM.

I don’t expect the pope to support marriage equality. However, it is disappointing that he gave more visibility to Kim Davis. There was no need for that bit of stupidity.

SteveMcGaziBolaGate Sep 30, 2015 • 1:22:55pm

The Pope isn’t gonna dig homosexuality, I don’t think anybody really expects him to. I don’t know who said what to whom in this meeting. All I can say is that when the Pope was in Philadelphia talking up the family, he didn’t go anywhere near homosexuality or divorce. His tone was basically that the family is the cornerstone of society. I think it’s inevitable that Frank’s gonna have to speak up about this, kind of like that time he said all dogs sort of go to heaven.

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:23:08pm

re: #14 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t get why people expected the Pope to do anything other than object to SSM.

I think sometimes people get their hopes up. I think a lot of people really thought when Francis talked about “Who am I to judge” that it meant that the RCC wouldn’t object to SSM anymore. I really had no such allusions myself but I do confess disappointment because I thought that Francis could at least be nuanced to understand law. See my number 8 I guess. I’ve never been a devout Catholic but as a child of two people who were raised Catholic, it’s a part of who I am in a weird way.

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:24:36pm

re: #23 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

The Pope isn’t gonna dig homosexuality, I don’t think anybody really expects him to. I don’t know who said what to whom in this meeting. All I can say is that when the Pope was in Philadelphia talking up the family, he didn’t go anywhere near homosexuality or divorce. His tone was basically that the family is the cornerstone of society. I think it’s inevitable that Frank’s gonna have to speak up about this, kind of like that time he said all dogs sort of go to heaven.

I think what ultimately disappoints people is he gave Kim his blessings. I hate to give some of the GOP presidential candidates any sort of credit but Graham and Trump and Pataki (who is Catholic) have said that she needs to do her job.

Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Sep 30, 2015 • 1:24:44pm

re: #16 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“Since TWO of my fellow conservative candidates have been forced to drop out due to lack of funds, it is more urgent now than ever that I have your support before the hard cutoff of my fundraising deadline on Sept. 30,” Cruz wrote his email list.

cnn.com

September 30. That’s today. Get to it, you Cruzbots.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 1:25:04pm

re: #22 EPR-radar

I don’t expect the pope to support marriage equality. However, it is disappointing that he gave more visibility to Kim Davis. There was no need for that bit of stupidity.

Well, he met privately, and didn’t even say anythign about it till her lawyeres were bragging about it.

Honestly, it’s pretty much what I expect him to do. The Church is STILL The Church, after all. What surprises ME is that she’d want to meet with him, since she doesn’t consider him Christian.

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:25:18pm

re: #22 EPR-radar

I don’t expect the pope to support marriage equality. However, it is disappointing that he gave more visibility to Kim Davis. There was no need for that bit of stupidity.

I think this is how I feel. I don’t expect the Pope to embrace SSM but I am disappointed that he gave Kim Davis viability that she doesn’t deserve.

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:25:52pm

re: #27 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, he met privately, and didn’t even say anythign about it till her lawyeres were bragging about it.

Honestly, it’s pretty much what I expect him to do. The Church is STILL The Church, after all. What surprises ME is that she’d want to meet with him, since she doesn’t consider him Christian.

BWS explained it. Her parents are apparently Catholic and I presume she was brought up so.

nines09 Sep 30, 2015 • 1:26:08pm

re: #18 Blind Frog Belly White

Even my very liberal Christian relatives - some more liberal than I - wouldn’t get me to impose any form of Christianity on my family. It isn’t the liberal/conservative balance, it’s the sense/nonsense balance.

I try and live and let live as much as possible. Tend thy own garden, and hold others to that premise. Whenever anyone asked if I was Catholic, I always replied, “No. I have enough guilt.”

Sophist C. Johnson Sep 30, 2015 • 1:26:09pm

Breitbart has always been allied with ~~Eastasia~~ Pope Francis.

Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 1:26:32pm

re: #27 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, he met privately, and didn’t even say anythign about it till her lawyeres were bragging about it.

Honestly, it’s pretty much what I expect him to do. The Church is STILL The Church, after all. What surprises ME is that she’d want to meet with him, since she doesn’t consider him Christian.

I don’t see why you would expect him to meet her. There was no reason whatsoever for them to meet, regardless of the Pope’s views on SSM.

KGxvi Sep 30, 2015 • 1:26:40pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Francis may be more open minded than his predecessors, but the Catholic Church is a massive institution, changing its direction is like trying to steer an aircraft carrier in the middle of an iceberg flow, at night during a storm. Expecting the rules to change over night and there be no issues is a fool’s dream. Or perhaps the Church will remain out of step with the modern world on this (and other issues).

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 1:26:41pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

BWS explained it. Her parents are apparently Catholic and I presume she was brought up so.

Haw many Hail Mary’s for the divorces and adultery?
//

nines09 Sep 30, 2015 • 1:27:52pm

re: #34 Blind Frog Belly White

Haw many Hail Mary’s for the divorces and adultery?
//

Work the bingo tables for 3 weeks. /

Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 1:28:05pm

This Pope is better than his predecessors.

Or: maybe his PR is better?

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:28:14pm

I can’t really explain it but I’ve always felt “culturally Catholic.” I guess that comes from having done some of the motions and being baptized. Plus I grew up hearing my Dad’s stories about parochial school, I’d do the cross when shooting free throws, had a great uncle who was a priest, and am aware that Catholicism had some part in why some of my family emigrated to the US in the first place. I’ve never been what one could call devout- never a regular mass goer and I have not received my first communion ever nor do I expect ever to.

SteveMcGaziBolaGate Sep 30, 2015 • 1:28:29pm

I think that the Pope so far has been sort of like “let God worry about what gay people do.” I had a priest in high school who explained the whole doctrine of sex as the Church sees it. Long story short, gay sex is equivalent to extramarital sex (It is sex outside of marriage). Some people take it way over the edge, but as Father Handjob said, what you do behind closed doors is between you and God.

Dr. Matt Sep 30, 2015 • 1:28:57pm

It’s quite telling that the Pope was too embarrassed to meet with #KimDavis in public. Enough said.

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) September 30, 2015

Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 1:29:40pm

re: #38 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

It is sex outside of marriage

Not anymore.

And before you say “Catholic marriage”, the Church recognizes non-Catholic marriages as such.

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:29:48pm

re: #33 KGxvi

Francis may be more open minded than his predecessors, but the Catholic Church is a massive institution, changing its direction is like trying to steer an aircraft carrier in the middle of an iceberg flow, at night during a storm. Expecting the rules to change over night and there be no issues is a fool’s dream. Or perhaps the Church will remain out of step with the modern world on this (and other issues).

Oh I know. As I said I have no allusions. I’d be shocked if we ever see a RCC that accepts legalized abortion and if they come around on SSM it will be wen I am either very old or dead.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 1:29:51pm

re: #32 Nyet

I don’t see why you would expect him to meet her. There was no reason whatsoever for them to meet, regardless of the Pope’s views on SSM.

He sees her as standing up for her faith. He agrees with her position. She’s in the news, and thus is a visible example of someone taking what he sees as a faith-based stand for something he also believes in.

I’m more surprised that she asked.

gocart mozart Sep 30, 2015 • 1:31:41pm

On Hitlers Christian faith:

The Government, being resolved to undertake the political and moral purification of our public life, are creating and securing the conditions necessary for a really profound revival of religious life…. The National Government regard the two Christian Confessions as the weightiest factors for the maintenance of our nationality. They will respect the agreements concluded between them and the federal States. Their rights are not to be infringed…. It will be the Government’s care to maintain honest co-operation between Church and State; the struggle against materialistic views and for a real national community is just as much in the interest of the German nation as in that of the welfare of our Christian faith. The Government of the Reich, who regard Christianity as the unshakable foundation of the morals and moral code of the nation, attach the greatest value to friendly relations with the Holy See and are endeavouring to develop them.

-Adolf Hitler, in his speech to the Reichstag on 23 March 1933

More Christian Hitler quotes here: nobeliefs.com

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:31:51pm

re: #34 Blind Frog Belly White

Haw many Hail Mary’s for the divorces and adultery?
//

Ha wish I knew.

Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 1:33:14pm

re: #42 Blind Frog Belly White

That would only make sense if it happened publicly.

Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Sep 30, 2015 • 1:34:05pm

re: #16 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“Since TWO of my fellow conservative candidates have been forced to drop out due to lack of funds, it is more urgent now than ever that I have your support before the hard cutoff of my fundraising deadline on Sept. 30,” Cruz wrote his email list.

cnn.com

Not enough money has been set on fire in this prez race. Let us set moar money on fire.

allegro Sep 30, 2015 • 1:34:14pm

So Francis asks “Who am I to judge” WRT who anyone chooses to love and simultaneously says “Stay strong” while applauding KD’s conscientious objection, telling her that she DOES have the right to judge and use her authority as county clerk to actively deny others’ legal rights. So in public he’s righteous, loving, and forgiving while in private… I’ll just stop there.

Dr. Matt Sep 30, 2015 • 1:34:18pm

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 1:34:33pm

The Pope was never going to accept abortion and contraception, or women in the priesthood, or SSM, or even homosexuality. However, his open advocacy against income inequality and the death penalty, and in favor of addressing AGW revealed that all those Conservatives who railed against ‘Cafeteria Catholics’ pick and choose which teachings they follow, just like everyone else.

Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 1:35:06pm

re: #43 gocart mozart

One should be very careful to distinguish between what Hitler talked about privately and publicly. From his private talks it is clear that he despised the historical religion of Christianity, although without rejecting Christ or God.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 1:35:31pm

re: #45 Nyet

That would only make sense if it happened publicly.

Disagree.

KGxvi Sep 30, 2015 • 1:35:48pm

re: #35 nines09

completely unrelated but the mention of working bingo tables reminded me of something. In high school (mid-90s), they used to do bingo in our high school gym once a week. Somehow, it came about that the various athletic teams (or rather their booster clubs) would get extra money if the teams helped set up and/or take down the bingo floor - parents would also be stuck working it occasionally. These little blue haired women, some with oxygen tanks, would usually be proceeded by a cloud of cigarette smoke upon exiting. It was always a surreal experience. But then they banned smoking on high school campuses and they had to find somewhere else to play bingo.

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:36:20pm

re: #47 allegro

So Francis asks “Who am I to judge” WRT who anyone chooses to love and simultaneously says “Stay strong” while applauding KD’s conscientious objection, telling her that she DOES have the right to judge and use her authority as county clerk to actively deny others’ legal rights. So in public he’s righteous, loving, and forgiving while in private… I’ll just stop there.

Right. I mean if Kim wants to keep believing SSM is immoral, fine, I can’t stop her but if as a public official in our nation that does in fact allow SSM, hell yeah I object. She’s not above the law. If I were a public official, I wouldn’t be able to use my prejudices to dictate what laws are and are not enforced. I could never be a cop or prosecutor for that very reason, I have a big problem with our drug laws but if I were to become either, I would be obligated by law to enforce those laws just as Kim is.

Charles Johnson Sep 30, 2015 • 1:38:48pm

Uh oh.

constitution1st

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 1:39:25pm

re: #50 Nyet

One should be very careful to distinguish between what Hitler talked about privately and publicly. From his private talks it is clear that he despised the historical religion of Christianity, although not rejecting Christ or God.

there is a very interesting description of the failed drive for nazification of the church in the 30s in ‘The Third Reich In Power’

i think this episode is covered much less than most events in the extremely extensively covered third reich, which in other aspects is probably the most written about subject in history

Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 1:40:01pm

re: #51 Blind Frog Belly White

Disagree.

There are millions like her in the US. There was no reason for him to speak to her for the sake of speaking to her. Had that been done publicly, that would have been a message. As such, it doesn’t make sense.

Dr. Matt Sep 30, 2015 • 1:40:06pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Uh oh.

constitution1st

SteveMcGaziBolaGate Sep 30, 2015 • 1:42:09pm

re: #40 Nyet

Not anymore.

And before you say “Catholic marriage”, the Church recognizes non-Catholic marriages as such.

The lecture was in 1982, and I don’t think many people considered SSM at the time. The Church may accept non-Catholic marriages, but it probably won’t accept anybody’s SSM. That’s the Church’s problem. Also, by abridging the long story I left out a couple of other tidbits about the lecture, the relevant one being that procreation had a big role in sex and naturally, gay sex has a low risk of procreation. (and masturbation, while we’re at it - even condoms!). I gotta tell you, by the time this guy was done my face was beet red, but he did seem to cover all the bases. (also went on about why priests are celibate and other stuff).

Last little bit, at that time an infertile man could marry, (miracles can happen!) but an impotent man couldn’t because he couldn’t get the little swimmers in, I guess.

Lidane Sep 30, 2015 • 1:42:19pm

What the actual fuck:

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— Omar Azimi (@OmarAzimi) September 29, 2015

Backwoods_Sleuth Sep 30, 2015 • 1:42:20pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

dragging out the grill…

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 1:43:33pm

re: #56 Nyet

There are millions like her in the US. There was no reason for him to speak to her for the sake of speaking to her. Had that been done publicly, that would have been a message. As such, it doesn’t make sense.

To you.

Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Sep 30, 2015 • 1:43:41pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

dragging out the grill…

And just as I’m about to sign off for the day. Always happens.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 1:44:09pm

re: #57 Dr. Matt

Embedded Image

Shouldn’t that be Mr. Bates, then?
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gocart mozart Sep 30, 2015 • 1:44:32pm

re: #50 Nyet

How would one know what Hitler’s private views on religion were? Can you give me a link to something?

Sure, for all anyone knows he could have been an atheist who only used religious rhetoric for political reasons. For all I know, this may be true for Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee also. You can only judge public figures by their public record. Have any of Hitler’s private thoughts on religion been documented?

Ian G. Sep 30, 2015 • 1:44:35pm

Let’s look at the big picture here. I’ll take him meeting with a pathetic kamikaze pilot opponent of SSM (this war is over in the US, all that’s left is the mop-up actions) so long as he’s on the right side of the far more concerning issue of climate change.

Nobody is going to remember Kim Davis in 50 years. But the Colorado River may well be dried up and Miami Beach under water.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 1:46:02pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

dragging out the grill…

What am I missing? The link goes to the Front Page, for me.

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:46:11pm

re: #65 Ian G.

Let’s look at the big picture here. I’ll take him meeting with a pathetic kamikaze pilot opponent of SSM (this war is over in the US, all that’s left is the mop-up actions) so long as he’s on the right side of the far more concerning issue of climate change.

Nobody is going to remember Kim Davis in 50 years. But the Colorado River may well be dried up and Miami Beach under water.

Also a good point.

Higgs Boson's Mate Sep 30, 2015 • 1:46:37pm

re: #16 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“Since TWO of my fellow conservative candidates have been forced to drop out due to lack of funds, it is more urgent now than ever that I have your support before the hard cutoff of my fundraising deadline on Sept. 30,” Cruz wrote his email list.

cnn.com

Looks like Cruz didn’t pick up any of those funds. How must it feel to be so repulsive that not even the Koch brothers want to support you.

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:46:44pm

re: #66 Blind Frog Belly White

What am I missing? The link goes to the Front Page, for me.

It was for a new hatching whose username had troll written all over it.

Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 1:48:08pm

re: #61 Blind Frog Belly White

To you.

Given that there doesn’t seem to be anyone who can actually explain how that makes sense, for all practical purposes it just doesn’t make sense, at all.

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:48:34pm

re: #68 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Looks like Cruz didn’t pick up any of those funds. How must it feel to be so repulsive that not even the Koch brothers want to support you.

I imagine when he’s not blaming the unions for the death of his father, (Prepare to die!), Walker is capable of being personable. Cruz meanwhile just seems to be about as fun as a kick in the nads, something that even those who agree with him a lot seem to think. I can’t think of a Democratic equivalent over the years but there’s always someone like Cruz who is just so insufferable even to those who agree with him more than not.

Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 1:48:38pm

re: #64 gocart mozart

How would one know what Hitler’s private views on religion were?

From his private talks.

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:49:10pm

re: #72 Nyet

From his private talks.

Right and remembered by witnesses who survived the long war long enough to either be interviewed or jot it down.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 1:50:39pm

re: #70 Nyet

Given that there doesn’t seem to be anyone who can actually explain how that makes sense, for all practical purposes it just doesn’t make sense, at all.

Perhaps he wanted to meet with someone who was doing something he admired, to express his support, without stepping on the big message he was pushing on this trip. That makes sense to me. If it doesn’t to you, I can’t help you.

Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 1:50:56pm

re: #65 Ian G.

In the big picture, Francis will be lucky if an average person remembers him in 100 years. I mean, do you remember, without looking up, who the Pope was 100 years ago? ;)

Belafon Sep 30, 2015 • 1:51:49pm

#68 Higgs Boson’s Mate:

President Cruz would destroy the presidency, the Republic, and the Republican party, and most of the Republicans know that.

goddamnedfrank Sep 30, 2015 • 1:52:00pm

re: #70 Nyet

Given that there doesn’t seem to be anyone who can actually explain how that makes sense, for all practical purposes it just doesn’t make sense, at all.

Crank magnetism. Not in the normal definition of the term but in a more literal sense, the magnetic attraction between two religious cranks. The Pope just couldn’t help himself, he was inexorably drawn to Kim like north to south pole.

Stuff Happens Sep 30, 2015 • 1:52:47pm

re: #75 Nyet

In the big picture, Francis will be lucky if an average person remembers him in 100 years. I mean, do you remember, without looking up, who the Pope was 100 years ago? ;)

The only pope I remember is Guido Sarducci. He wasn’t really pope or a priest.

Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 1:53:08pm

re: #64 gocart mozart

All of it boils down to there being no support for the assertion that Hitler was an atheist, and considerable evidence to the contrary

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:53:25pm

re: #78 Iwouldprefernotto

The only pope I remember is Guido Sarducci.

I am still waiting for George Ringo’s name to be announced through the chimney of smoke.

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:54:49pm

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

All of it boils down to there being no support for the assertion that Hitler was an atheist, and considerable evidence to the contrary

I’ll tell you guys if the Kershaw biography touches heavily on it. I’m only at the early years following WWI. It’s a very useful biography because he analyzes past sources. For example, he thinks that a lot of stuff that Hitler himself said about the origin of his antisemitism was exaggerated or even false.

Nojay UK Sep 30, 2015 • 1:56:07pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

It was for a new hatching whose username had troll written all over it.

It might be someone who admires President Obama’s distinguished record as a Constitutional scholar at Harvard and chose that particular username for that reason.

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:56:19pm

I don’t know what non-political thing I’d compare Cruz to. It’s not quite your favorite team’s star player being a dick since Cruz really isn’t good at what he does.

BeachDem Sep 30, 2015 • 1:56:42pm

re: #47 allegro

So Francis asks “Who am I to judge” WRT who anyone chooses to love and simultaneously says “Stay strong” while applauding KD’s conscientious objection, telling her that she DOES have the right to judge and use her authority as county clerk to actively deny others’ legal rights. So in public he’s righteous, loving, and forgiving while in private… I’ll just stop there.

Since the topic is religion—conversation I had yesterday with very devout Christian friend. Subject was a mutual acquaintance’s new baby grandson who was born with a rare, usually fatal disease.

Friend: We all prayed and our prayers worked—the baby is going to survive against all odds.

Me: I would never deny your belief in the power of prayer, but perhaps some credit should go to the amazing medical team who treated the baby, and, you know, science.

Friend: Oh, they were wonderful, but it was God who made sure they were in position to provide that treatment.

Me—not wanting to lose friend—silent, shaking head and thinking—if God is so powerful, why wouldn’t he have kept the baby from being born with the disease in the first place?

Sigh.

Bubblehead II Sep 30, 2015 • 1:57:04pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Uh oh.

constitution1st

With a NIC like that we may have a new chew toy for a bit.

Dr. Matt Sep 30, 2015 • 1:57:08pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

dragging out the grill…

I have a 12 pack.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 1:57:10pm

re: #78 Iwouldprefernotto

The only pope I remember is Guido Sarducci. He wasn’t really pope or a priest.

if i recall correctly he billed himself as the hollywood correspondent for L’Osservatore Romano

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:57:47pm

re: #82 Nojay UK

It was for a new hatching whose username had troll written all over it.

It might be someone who admires President Obama’s distinguished record as a Constitutional scholar at Harvard and chose that particular username for that reason.

May well be but I think that is what got our host’s attention. A lot of American cons seem to fancy themselves as having an unique understanding of our Constitution Look at conservative witter profiles someday, a lot of self professed “constitutionalists.” .

Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 1:57:50pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

That’s the problem - for all his failings he’s not a crank…

goddamnedfrank Sep 30, 2015 • 1:58:01pm

Kim Davis was like one of those little tiny bottles of booze in the Pope’s mini-bar. His better instincts lost out because he thought he could get his secret drinky on without anybody noticing.

dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 1:58:09pm

constitution1st

“whatever it is, im against it”

Belafon Sep 30, 2015 • 1:58:10pm

#81 HappyWarrior:

Did Hitler believe it, though?

nines09 Sep 30, 2015 • 1:58:16pm

re: #52 KGxvi

I called Bingo one night at a fair. Outdoors. Under a tent. With a PA. Just as one little old lady called out BINGO, another white haired gal screamed “FUCK”! I nearly fell over. I had tears in my eyes.

allegro Sep 30, 2015 • 1:59:19pm

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

Kim Davis was like one of those little tiny bottles of booze in the Pope’s mini-bar. His better instincts lost out because he thought he could get his secret drinky on without anybody noticing.

He should avoid drinking from wide mouth jars then.

HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 1:59:30pm

re: #84 BeachDem

Since the topic is religion—conversation I had yesterday with very devout Christian friend. Subject was a mutual acquaintance’s new baby grandson who was born with a rare, usually fatal disease.

Friend: We all prayed and our prayers worked—the baby is going to survive against all odds.

Me: I would never deny your belief in the power of prayer, but perhaps some credit should go to the amazing medical team who treated the baby, and, you know, science.

Friend: Oh, they were wonderful, but it was God who made sure they were in position to provide that treatment.

Me—not wanting to lose friend—silent, shaking head and thinking—if God is so powerful, why wouldn’t he have kept the baby from being born with the disease in the first place?

Sigh.

I can’t get over that too. Now that said I am glad your acquaintance’s grandson is okay. I just can’t get over how God is apparently love but would put a child in that position.

Bubblehead II Sep 30, 2015 • 1:59:31pm

re: #66 Blind Frog Belly White

What am I missing? The link goes to the Front Page, for me.

Hatchling with the NIC of Constitution 1ST.

Higgs Boson's Mate Sep 30, 2015 • 2:00:26pm

Pope Leo the Great (Reigned 441-461). After him I got nothin’.

scottslemmons Sep 30, 2015 • 2:01:04pm

As always, Cleek’s Law reigns supreme.

nines09 Sep 30, 2015 • 2:01:22pm

re: #96 Bubblehead II

Tick, tick, tick, tick…

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jaunte Sep 30, 2015 • 2:02:40pm

REPORT: Pope Francis unable to convince Kim Davis not to become a Republican
— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) September 30, 2015

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Nojay UK Sep 30, 2015 • 2:03:03pm

re: #93 nines09

I called Bingo one night at a fair. Outdoors. Under a tent. With a PA. Just as one little old lady called out BINGO, another white haired gal screamed “FUCK”! I nearly fell over. I had tears in my eyes.

Sicilian blood vendetta has NOTHING on Bingo players who think they’ve been gypped out of a win. Source: my mother, a three-times-a-week gifted amateur player up against the local pros, the ones with a marker in each fist and the tabletop covered in cards clipped together at the edges.

When she lost she was all about playing “for the company” and “getting out of the house”, when she won it was Victory Dance time complete with “woo hoo”s.

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HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 2:03:08pm

re: #92 Belafon

#81 HappyWarrior:

Did Hitler believe it, though?

That the origins of his Antisemitism were in Vienna? Yeah he did and wrote as much in Mein Kempf but we all exaggerate stuff about ourselves. I’ll give you an example. Take the politician who talks about his “humble, working class upbringing” who ends up having been fairly well off. But Kershaw uses memories of people who knew him and saw him m interact with Jews to theorize that the makings of the Htler we know and loathe were more in the later years of WWI.

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allegro Sep 30, 2015 • 2:03:19pm

re: #84 BeachDem

Since the topic is religion—conversation I had yesterday with very devout Christian friend. Subject was a mutual acquaintance’s new baby grandson who was born with a rare, usually fatal disease.

Friend: We all prayed and our prayers worked—the baby is going to survive against all odds.

Me: I would never deny your belief in the power of prayer, but perhaps some credit should go to the amazing medical team who treated the baby, and, you know, science.

Friend: Oh, they were wonderful, but it was God who made sure they were in position to provide that treatment.

Me—not wanting to lose friend—silent, shaking head and thinking—if God is so powerful, why wouldn’t he have kept the baby from being born with the disease in the first place?

Sigh.

I see that on the news all the time. Someone is in a horrible accent, gets shot, or conjoined twins are separated - all due to heroic efforts from medical teams and support - and familes thank god. No mention of who was really responsible or thanks there. Makes me crazy enough to shout at the teevee.

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goddamnedfrank Sep 30, 2015 • 2:03:50pm

re: #89 Nyet

That’s the problem - for all his failings he’s not a crank…

In the broadest sense of the term he kind of is. I mean, sure, he looks fantastic by comparison, but he’s still head of the largest international criminal child molester ring the world has ever known. And his entire organization is still fundamentally built on primitive superstition, inflexible dogma and exploiting people’s natural fear of death.

I’m just saying, all things considered strict rationality might not be the most realistic expectation to have of the guy.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Sep 30, 2015 • 2:03:57pm

Whoa… https://t.co/sv7jmjySed

— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) September 30, 2015

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Stanley Sea Toujours Sep 30, 2015 • 2:04:15pm

Why doesn’t the parent tweet show up?

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 2:05:43pm

re: #103 allegro

I see that on the news all the time. Someone is in a horrible accent, gets shot, or conjoined twins are separated - all due to heroic efforts from medical teams and support - and familes thank god. No mention of who was really responsible or thanks there. Makes me crazy enough to shout at the teevee.

Like Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins?

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Higgs Boson's Mate Sep 30, 2015 • 2:06:13pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea Toujours

Why doesn’t the parent tweet show up?

Because it’s picking up the children at school?

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nines09 Sep 30, 2015 • 2:06:20pm

re: #101 Nojay UK

The evil eye and all that entails. Pop playing the numbers and mom at the sanctuary holding out for “On the B………………………………………………………..4…….BLAM.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:06:28pm

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

He should have met with the Duggars then. //

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allegro Sep 30, 2015 • 2:06:32pm

re: #107 Blind Frog Belly White

Like Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins?

Haha oops. Thanks auto spell.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Sep 30, 2015 • 2:07:13pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea Toujours

Why doesn’t the parent tweet show up?

That one is a quoted tweet, not a parent tweet. If you referring to your most recent embed.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:07:46pm

re: #107 Blind Frog Belly White

Like Dick Van Dyke

I read that so wrong.

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Charles Johnson Sep 30, 2015 • 2:07:58pm

re: #82 Nojay UK

It was for a new hatching whose username had troll written all over it.

It might be someone who admires President Obama’s distinguished record as a Constitutional scholar at Harvard and chose that particular username for that reason.

Oh, an optimist, eh?

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Targetpractice Sep 30, 2015 • 2:08:04pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea Toujours

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Sadly, it’s not because of any concern about executing an innocent man, but rather over whether the right drug is being used.

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wrenchwench Sep 30, 2015 • 2:08:29pm

re: #112 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That one is a quoted tweet, not a parent tweet. If you referring to your most recent embed.

And Twitter is not as smart as LGF.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 2:08:58pm

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

In the broadest sense of the term he kind of is. I mean, sure, he looks fantastic by comparison, but he’s still head of the largest international criminal child molester ring the world has ever known. And his entire organization is still fundamentally built on primitive superstition, inflexible dogma and exploiting people’s natural fear of death.

I’m just saying, all things considered strict rationality might not be the most realistic expectation to have of the guy.

The guy believes, or claims to, that wine literally becomes blood, so I’d say you make a good point.

Unless Jesus was made out of bread with wine for blood, of course.

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Jenner7 Sep 30, 2015 • 2:08:59pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

Yep.

A stay of execution has been issued for #RichardGlossip by the Governor of Oklahoma http://t.co/CZWs5qKLt7 pic.twitter.com/RYfWLnDokn

— Shaun King (@ShaunKing) September 30, 2015

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HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 2:10:32pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

Sadly, it’s not because of any concern about executing an innocent man, but rather over whether the right drug is being used.

Had a feeling. I wally would love to see more American politicians denounce the DP in the highest terms.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:10:38pm

re: #117 Blind Frog Belly White

The guy believes, or claims to, that wine literally becomes blood, so I’d say you make a good point.

Unless Jesus was made out of bread with wine for blood, of course.

I love it when Catholics* mock Scientology.

—-

* Insert the name of any other faith here.

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Nojay UK Sep 30, 2015 • 2:10:43pm

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

In the broadest sense of the term he kind of is. I mean, sure, he looks fantastic by comparison, but he’s still head of the largest international criminal child molester ring the world has ever known. And his entire organization is still fundamentally built on primitive superstition, inflexible dogma and exploiting people’s natural fear of death.

The core tenet of Roman Catholicism, held and maintained above all else is the continued existence of the Universal Church as the only mediator between God and people. All else falls before that necessity, every Pope has that as his Prime Directive. Survive.

The Church may prosper or not, its influence in the world wax and wane but it has to exist if it is to do God’s will on Earth. It will bend if it must, dogma will change, the catechisms brought up to date as needed in order to simply be there as it has been for nearly two thousand years.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:11:20pm

I don’t care what you did, there should be no death penalty.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 2:12:17pm

re: #120 Nyet

I love it when Catholics* mock Scientology**.

—-

* Insert the name of any other faith here.

**Insert the name of any other nonoverlapping faith here

FTFY, at least from my POV as an atheist.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:12:47pm

BTW, death penalty is literally an unusual punishment. So it should be unconstitutional.

half-/

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Sep 30, 2015 • 2:13:05pm

For everybody wondering what the hell DC was up to after the Planned Parenthood kabuki of yesterday, the House of People’s Deputies just passed a continuing resolution meaning our government can continue on and stuff.

washingtonpost.com

I wonder if some of the Troubled Hearts of TCOT had visions of a gov shutdown. They’ll have to wait I guess.

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allegro Sep 30, 2015 • 2:14:19pm

re: #118 Jenner7

Yep.

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I am so creeped out by that letter, so dispassionately describing what drug is appropriate for murdering this guy. I honestly don’t get how anyone could attach their name to such a thing. The death penalty is our national shame.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:14:55pm

re: #123 Blind Frog Belly White

True, although many people have a thing for mocking Xenu for some reason, as if a sci-fi opera were any more absurd than walking corpses, flying horses and talking burning bushes.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 2:15:02pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

Sadly, it’s not because of any concern about executing an innocent man, but rather over whether the right drug is being used.

That’s kinda fucked up. “We don’t really care whether or not you did anything to deserve this, but we’re concerned it might be uncomfortable.”

I gotta say, arguing about the best method to kill a potentially innocent man is really, really weird.

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Dr. Matt Sep 30, 2015 • 2:15:35pm

Hurricane Joaquin Update

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KGxvi Sep 30, 2015 • 2:16:06pm

re: #93 nines09

my mom was one of the parents conned into working bingo, she had some stories of the “crazy old people” playing bingo. apparently there were some that would run down the people working to get their seat. among other craziness.

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HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 2:16:07pm

re: #122 Nyet

I don’t care what you did, there should be no death penalty.

That actually gets me at another thought I had with my Dad the other day. The vast majority of prisoners are going to get out of prison at some point so I think that furthers the notion that prison should be able rehabilitation and giving these people a chance to succeed and not become repeat felons once they get out. Prison educational and job programs are not only in the prisoner’s best interest, they are in society’s as well. Too often I think there is this desire that we need to punish criminals and man to some degree I understand the emotional side of it especially if it was your loved one that was the victim of their crime but we have to be aware that most prisoners will leave prison.

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BeachDem Sep 30, 2015 • 2:16:10pm

Hadn’t seen this before:

BREAKING: @TCSO Sheriff Stanley Glanz indicted for willful violation of the law & violating law for not releasing internal report. @NewsOn6

— Allison Harris (@allisonlharris) September 30, 2015

In case you’ve lost track of which corrupt sheriff is which:

It was Sheriff Stanley Glanz who appointed his booster and friend, senior citizen Bob Bates, as a Deputy Sheriff. Bob Bates then shot and killed an unarmed father, Eric Harris, during a rather routine arrest.

dailykos.com

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Sep 30, 2015 • 2:17:12pm

re: #132 BeachDem

In case you’ve lost track of which corrupt sheriff is which:

I had actually. Thanks for the reminder about this case.

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HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 2:17:40pm

The bipartisan support of the DP is perhaps the worst bipartisan consensus issue in the country. Too many sheriffs, prosecutors, judges, and politicians want to appear “tough on crime” so they don’t lose re-election.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Sep 30, 2015 • 2:17:59pm

re: #132 BeachDem

Hadn’t seen this before:

[Embedded content]

In case you’ve lost track of which corrupt sheriff is which:

It was Sheriff Stanley Glanz who appointed his booster and friend, senior citizen Bob Bates, as a Deputy Sheriff. Bob Bates then shot and killed an unarmed father, Eric Harris, during a rather routine arrest.

dailykos.com

Top down, our po po system is corrupt. And they can kill at will.

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Dr. Matt Sep 30, 2015 • 2:18:04pm

No shutdown: House approves short-term spending bill to keep federal government open

WASHINGTON (AP) — Congress is sending legislation to President Barack Obama that would head off the threat of a government shutdown at midnight Wednesday.

Democrats helped embattled House GOP leaders pass the measure by a sweeping 277-151 vote with just hours to spare. The Senate passed the legislation by a 78-20 tally earlier in the day.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Sep 30, 2015 • 2:18:50pm

There are many philosophical approaches to the “All-good” nature of God. The one I go with is that “good” has a definition beyond our ability to articulate. The theory of evolution and natural selection can account for our development, and the development of all species, but it is an ugly, painful process to those who don’t pass on their genes (and those who do). I don’t have an answer, that is just my approximation, I guess the best bad argument until I come up with something less bad.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 2:18:52pm

re: #127 Nyet

True, although many people have a thing for mocking Xenu for some reason, as if a sci-fi opera were any more absurd than walking corpses, flying horses and talking burning bushes.

Yeah. That’s a road I have to be careful not to start down when speaking with believers. Don’t want to be accused of mocking their faith. That would be bad manners on my part, even after they accuse me of denying God so I can continue my sinful life.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:19:00pm

And I fully expect the false equivalence of “but abortion!!!!”.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 2:19:24pm

re: #129 Dr. Matt

Hurricane Joaquin Update

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so the Caribbean will have a bad case of heartworm?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Sep 30, 2015 • 2:20:14pm

re: #136 Dr. Matt

Democrats helped embattled House GOP leaders pass the measure by a sweeping 277-151 vote

Republicans in charge of Congress can now go back home and talk about how they stood up to the Democrats who run the House and voted against the terrible CR that didn’t defund Planned Parenthood, kill the Iran deal, or repeal Obamacare because the House is run by Democrats.

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 30, 2015 • 2:20:47pm

re: #136 Dr. Matt

No shutdown: House approves short-term spending bill to keep federal government open

So they just postponed it for 10 weeks.

Then they’ll go on Christmas break.

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Dr. Matt Sep 30, 2015 • 2:21:31pm

re: #140 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

so the Caribbean will have a bad case of heartworm?

hahaha. Well played.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 2:21:57pm

re: #141 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Republicans in charge of Congress can now go back home and talk about how they stood up to the Democrats who run the House and voted against the terrible CR that didn’t defund Planned Parenthood, kill the Iran deal, or repeal Obamacare because the House is run by Democrats.

it’s those evil democrats subverting the constitution by exercising their vote

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Sep 30, 2015 • 2:21:59pm

re: #13 nines09

Even though the (this) Pope said some encouraging things, the Roman Catholic Church is still not a thing that I would impose upon my family.

I will start to take that organization seriously the day that the College of Cardinals and Cardinelles elects the first Popess

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HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 2:22:07pm

re: #138 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. That’s a road I have to be careful not to start down when speaking with believers. Don’t want to be accused of mocking their faith. That would be bad manners on my part, even after they accuse me of denying God so I can continue my sinful life.

What I have to say frustrates me is how non-belivers are expected to be “polite” to those with faith but those with Faith thinking other people are damned to hell is just fine. That always bothered me even when I was a theist. There’s a lot of cultural double standards and I agree with Sergey about how it is indeed silly for people who follow a religion who certainly have a lot of zany beliefs in their own system mocking another. I hpoe I don’t offend Christians here but I really don’t see how what Christianity believes about the virgin birth, Resurrection, etc is any more nonsensical than what Scientologists do. The difference is that belief system has been around for generations longer and thus we accept it. If things were the other way around, Christianity would be scorned in the mainstream the same way.

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allegro Sep 30, 2015 • 2:22:51pm

re: #140 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

so the Caribbean will have a bad case of heartworm?

Heh, I was thinking that with a good marinara and freshly grated Parmesan that would be delicious.

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Dr. Matt Sep 30, 2015 • 2:23:21pm

re: #142 The Vicious Babushka

So they just postponed it for 10 weeks.

Just in time for Christmas.

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Bubblehead II Sep 30, 2015 • 2:24:09pm

re: #142 The Vicious Babushka

So they just postponed it for 10 weeks.

And in 4 Boehner will be gone and either McCarthy or a TPGOPer will be running the House. I’m laying odds on a December shutdown if the repubs elect someone who can’t or will not work with the Dems.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Sep 30, 2015 • 2:24:13pm

re: #148 Dr. Matt

Just in time for Christmas.

Fun for the whole family.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Sep 30, 2015 • 2:24:37pm

re: #142 The Vicious Babushka

So they just postponed it for 10 weeks.

They’ll be passing CRs for the foreseeable future just because each one is another opportunity for grandstanding.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:24:46pm

re: #137 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

The problem with defining a good God is the good old Euthyphro dilemma: is “good” independent from God or not? If good = merely what God says is good, then God can tell you to [insert the most abominable thing you can imagine here], and that will be good by def. If good is independent from God, then, basically, God is not absolute.

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wrenchwench Sep 30, 2015 • 2:25:07pm

Murals Turn Immigration Controversy Into Latino Pride @GriseldaNevarez @barriourbanophx http://t.co/v6UjBkOD1P pic.twitter.com/5mwK05I44W

— NBC Latino (@NBCLatino) September 30, 2015

Thank you @GriseldaNevarez & @NBCLatino for featuring my #SanCarlosApache mural on #Calle16 #RazaUnida https://t.co/sHFvOYBcRF

— Douglas Miles (@douglasmilesart) September 30, 2015

A mural painted on the side of a sporting goods store on 16th street in Phoenix is what started Calle 16, a mural project meant to build community pride in a Latino neighborhood.

It was created five years ago in response to Arizona’s controversial immigration law known as Senate Bill 1070, which instructed police officers to question the immigration status of people they suspected were in the country illegally.

[…]

Ironic that the featured mural mentioned is by an Apache artist. Kind of like saying, ‘Don’t listen to those newbies. We welcome you!

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KGxvi Sep 30, 2015 • 2:25:20pm

re: #141 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

not that it’ll happen (even as crazy as American politics has been since, um 1789 or so), but I wonder if there is a large enough block of relatively rational/moderate/old school Republicans left that if the Tea Party gets their way with a nomination for Speaker, that they could throw the election to Pelosi (with a little horse trading on committee assignments and what not).

I mean, something similar has happened occasionally in state legislatures, but not with big numbers. Still, the tantrums would be epic.

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jaunte Sep 30, 2015 • 2:27:30pm

the Boehner legacy: 9/11 First Responders bill has expired; Congress refuses to act. http://t.co/wV3k3We4aU

— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) September 30, 2015

“…Passing a permanent reauthorization of the Zadroga Act would put to rest the question of whether “never forget 9/11” is just a slogan on a bumper sticker or a sacred commitment by public servants to those who risked so much and lost so much that day. If Congress fails to act, that question will answer itself.”

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Stanley Sea Toujours Sep 30, 2015 • 2:28:18pm

re: #143 Dr. Matt

hahaha. Well played.

He is a dog. Knows about those things.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 2:28:22pm

re: #152 Nyet

The problem with defining a good God is the good old Euthyphro dilemma: is “good” independent from God or not? If good = merely what God says is good, then God can tell you to [insert the most abominable thing you can imagine here], and that will be good by def. If good is independent from God, then, basically, God is not absolute.

You get two different answert so that, depending on which believer you ask:

1. Yes.

2. Yes, but He wouldn’t ask you to do anything Bad!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 2:30:11pm

i would love to buy onna them new tesla model Xs but i lost my wallet with the $150k in it

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Sep 30, 2015 • 2:30:22pm

When I said upstairs that we struggle to define “good”, I remembered what a pain in the ass it was reading about Socrates. I don’t think he was executed for impiety, I think he got it for being the ultimate pain in the ass.

But seriously, it can really be tricky to define good. But I can say that the same processes that led to our development (which we generally think of as a good thing) also lead to diseases and accidents and other horrible outcomes.

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Dr. Matt Sep 30, 2015 • 2:30:48pm

re: #158 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i would love to buy onna them new tesla model Xs but i lost my wallet with the $150k in it

gofundme.com

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:31:02pm

re: #157 Blind Frog Belly White

There are some semi-sophisticated attempts out there, having to do with defining the nature of God as goodness, so that “the good” is not separate from God but is not “defined” by his acts. This only leads to further problems though.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 2:33:05pm

re: #154 KGxvi

not that it’ll happen (even as crazy as American politics has been since, um 1789 or so), but I wonder if there is a large enough block of relatively rational/moderate/old school Republicans left that if the Tea Party gets their way with a nomination for Speaker, that they could throw the election to Pelosi (with a little horse trading on committee assignments and what not).

I mean, something similar has happened occasionally in state legislatures, but not with big numbers. Still, the tantrums would be epic.

I did once hear a proposal to keep Boehner as Speaker by Pelosi allowing enough Dems to vote for him. Of course, that would have depended on him abolishing the ‘Hastert Rule’, and simply allowing legislation to come to the floor that would pass. You know, like the Senate’s Comprehensive Immigration Bill, for example, or Debt Ceiling stuff. I think a good case could be made for a Speaker elected by a bipartisan majority, when faced with an insane subgroup within the majority caucus.

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Lidane Sep 30, 2015 • 2:34:16pm

re: #136 Dr. Matt

Obama and the two most powerful Republicans in Congress are preparing to launch negotiations on a 2-year budget deal http://t.co/tEjP9bt7zL

— POLITICO (@politico) September 30, 2015

Senator Turtle and Sir John of Orange are clearly trying to take the potential of a government shutdown in 2016 off the table before Boehner leaves. Too bad it won’t work because the rest of the lunatics in Congress won’t go for it.

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nines09 Sep 30, 2015 • 2:34:48pm

re: #130 KGxvi

Father Joe would scold the men for gambling and then welcome the women to Bingo Night.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:36:27pm

re: #163 Lidane

He looks like an oompa loompa.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 2:37:18pm

re: #163 Lidane

It might work if Boehner gives up trying to get a majority of his caucus to agree, and simply goes for a majority of the House.

And at this point, why wouldn’t he?

Hell, pass Immigration Reform, while he’s at it!

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gocart mozart Sep 30, 2015 • 2:38:05pm

re: #154 KGxvi

More likely, Pelosi might throw her and Democrats support to a “moderate” Republican who will effectively be her bitch because she could pull her support if he got out of line. She has suggested this recently.

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Targetpractice Sep 30, 2015 • 2:38:59pm

re: #163 Lidane

Related:

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Senator Turtle and Sir John of Orange are clearly trying to take the potential of a government shutdown in 2016 off the table before Boehner leaves. Too bad it won’t work because the rest of the lunatics in Congress won’t go for it.

Haven’t we seen this movie before?

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KGxvi Sep 30, 2015 • 2:39:50pm

re: #167 gocart mozart

That would have the same affect. The Dems would need at least 30 Republicans to go along with this. Now I really want to see this be possible, just for the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 2:39:54pm

re: #156 Stanley Sea Toujours

He is a dog. Knows about those things.

roof!

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Higgs Boson's Mate Sep 30, 2015 • 2:41:26pm

re: #170 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

roof!

Roog

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Sep 30, 2015 • 2:42:23pm

re: #152 Nyet

The problem with defining a good God is the good old Euthyphro dilemma: is “good” independent from God or not? If good = merely what God says is good, then God can tell you to [insert the most abominable thing you can imagine here], and that will be good by def. If good is independent from God, then, basically, God is not absolute.

That is certainly an argument I’ve seen, but I have never seen a perfectly conclusive philosophical argument. In your case, most theologians won’t go with your working definition (good=what God says is good). We don’t know everything that God has tried to tell us (as evidenced by contradictory passages in the Bible - as an aside, I always felt that Jesus came to deliver the Beatitudes to us, not to die for our sins). Only Biblical literalists would agree with your definition, and they won’t ever try to think it through any deeper. If something bad happened it must be your fault, according to them.

In short, however, it ‘snot what you think, it’s how you treat other people. We mere humans are least capable of that much.

This could go on all night, but unfortunately I have to go pick up my little angel from crew practice.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 2:42:34pm

re: #159 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

When I said upstairs that we struggle to define “good”, I remembered what a pain in the ass it was reading about Socrates. I don’t think he was executed for impiety, I think he got it for being the ultimate pain in the ass.

But seriously, it can really be tricky to define good. But I can say that the same processes that led to our development (which we generally think of as a good thing) also lead to diseases and accidents and other horrible outcomes.

Might I gently suggest that if continuing to believe in God requires you making it all make sense to you, you’re likely to be disappointed.

One big reason I’m atheist is that everything only makes sense to me in the absence of a higher power. I’m not equipped for the mental gymnastics required to generate a cohesive worldview with an omnipotent omnibenevolent god at the center. I know others who avoid the gymnastics by glossing over them, but I’m not so inclined.

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Bubblehead II Sep 30, 2015 • 2:43:37pm

Ben has another case of butt hurt.

.@benshapiro Want me to call you a whaaahbulance.so you can get that butthurt taken care of?
— Bubblehead II (@BubbleheadII) September 30, 2015

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allegro Sep 30, 2015 • 2:43:56pm

re: #159 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

When I said upstairs that we struggle to define “good”, I remembered what a pain in the ass it was reading about Socrates. I don’t think he was executed for impiety, I think he got it for being the ultimate pain in the ass.

But seriously, it can really be tricky to define good. But I can say that the same processes that led to our development (which we generally think of as a good thing) also lead to diseases and accidents and other horrible outcomes.

Good and bad are ultimately situational. A hurricane is bad if you are in its path and it blows your house down. It’s good for the land that is hydrated and nourished for next year’s crops. Diseases are bad when they kill you or loved ones, but are good for the spaces opened up for those who can now follow.

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Charles Johnson Sep 30, 2015 • 2:45:07pm

Now upgrading to OS X El Capitan. Man, I really hate when system updates give you an estimated time remaining, like 30 minutes - then sit there with no apparent progress for 20 minutes.

Then it suddenly jumps from 30 minutes to 7 minutes and sits there again for 20 more minutes. I’d almost rather have no estimated time displayed than this disquieting behavior.

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jaunte Sep 30, 2015 • 2:46:30pm

re: #174 Bubblehead II

First he gets slapped by the Pope, next it’s Boehner.
True Backpfeifengesicht.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:46:55pm

re: #172 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I did not proffer any definition of my own. Also, this issue has nothing to do with the Bible (or even specifically Christianity as such). It’s a question about any God.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Sep 30, 2015 • 2:47:49pm

re: #173 Blind Frog Belly White

If a being was omniscient and unconstrained by either space or time then it’s difficult to see how we could understand that being’s wishes any more than a butterfly could understand why we watch television.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Sep 30, 2015 • 2:49:26pm

re: #173 Blind Frog Belly White

The thing about my belief in God is not in believing he is some sort of magician, but realizing that there are things that will remain beyond my knowledge. Faith requires doubt. Those fundies don’t realize that. If you take the Bible literally, and think that it has the answers to everything, than it follows that everything is knowable, and there is nothing left to believe in. I think we would agree at least that everything is not knowable, that we have limits to what we can know (Insert digression on Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, quantum mechanics, and Schrodinger’s cat here - they prove that we absolutely CAN’T know everything). Therefore, for me to have faith, I have to live with doubt.

Now I really gotta go!!!

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Sep 30, 2015 • 2:50:30pm

re: #178 Nyet

I just use the Bible as an example.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:50:32pm

re: #179 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If a being was omniscient and unconstrained by either space or time then it’s difficult to see how we could understand that being’s wishes any more than a butterfly could understand why we watch television.

Or why such a being’s concepts of “good” and “evil” would make any sense to us.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Sep 30, 2015 • 2:50:50pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

Scientology is more cult than religion-the fact that the IRS granted them a religious exemption is probably the biggest mistake the IRS has ever done in the last 50 years - you would have though that with Operation Snow White any chance of Scientology getting tax exemption should have got thrown by the wayside.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:52:20pm

re: #183 Eric The Fruit Bat

Scientology is more cult than religion

You say it as if there was any contradiction.

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allegro Sep 30, 2015 • 2:53:20pm

re: #183 Eric The Fruit Bat

Scientology is more cult than religion-the fact that the IRS granted them a religious exemption is probably the biggest mistake the IRS has ever done in the last 50 years - you would have though that with Operation Snow White any chance of Scientology getting tax exemption should have got thrown by the wayside.

To an atheist, they all look the same so one is no more deserving than another. I see them as private clubs for their members and all should be taxed just like country clubs.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:53:23pm

*Drudge siren*

Any cult is a religion.

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Charles Johnson Sep 30, 2015 • 2:55:43pm

Sorry, right wing kamikaze warriors - you’re not going to defund Planned Parenthood. I suggest you get used to the taste of failure.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 30, 2015

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ObserverArt Sep 30, 2015 • 2:56:13pm

I’m late to most of the thread, but has anyone wondered if this meeting between Davis and the Pope was not pushed by an American Cardinal or Bishop?

Maybe the Pope didn’t give a shit, but he seems like the kind of person that doesn’t like to disappoint. So, a politically active Cardinal or Bishop gets the word out that he would like the Pope to hold a meeting.

Boom. Meeting held. No real purpose from the Vatican and the Pope, and that is why they refuse to play much.

Can you say Cardinal Timothy Dolan? I know you can. Remember all those pictures of the Pope in the US? Who was right there by his side?

I have heard this man several times smile and hate at the same time. He is glib and lovable…but he is very conservative.

From his Wiki page:

Advocacy

In November 2009, Dolan signed an ecumenical statement known as the Manhattan Declaration calling on evangelicals, Roman Catholics and Orthodox not to comply with rules and laws permitting abortion, same-sex marriage and other matters that go against their religious consciences. It calls for civil disobedience from Christian officials and laymen on these issues

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 30, 2015 • 2:57:04pm

re: #118 Jenner7

Yep.

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Is potassium chloride that hard to get ahold of? I’ve got sodium chloride in the cupboard, used to buy calcium chloride all the time to suck the moisture out of the air and precipitate it into a little bucket…It seems like there used to be “salt substitutes” that were potassium chloride. What am I missing here?

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 2:57:26pm

re: #188 ObserverArt

Now that could make sense.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Sep 30, 2015 • 2:59:24pm

re: #189 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I am not speaking from a position of knowledge on exactly this particular chemical, but I know that previously used drugs have had to be replaced because the manufacturers have refused to sell them to states for the purposes of use in execution.

It is possible that this is another one of those cases, but I don’t know.

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allegro Sep 30, 2015 • 3:00:21pm

re: #188 ObserverArt

Their statement made a point to say that this was the doing of the vatican staff and not the local bishops. Thought that was a bit weird actually. Think that was just a pre-emptive diversion from the reality?

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ObserverArt Sep 30, 2015 • 3:01:07pm

re: #84 BeachDem

Since the topic is religion—conversation I had yesterday with very devout Christian friend. Subject was a mutual acquaintance’s new baby grandson who was born with a rare, usually fatal disease.

Friend: We all prayed and our prayers worked—the baby is going to survive against all odds.

Me: I would never deny your belief in the power of prayer, but perhaps some credit should go to the amazing medical team who treated the baby, and, you know, science.

Friend: Oh, they were wonderful, but it was God who made sure they were in position to provide that treatment.

Me—not wanting to lose friend—silent, shaking head and thinking—if God is so powerful, why wouldn’t he have kept the baby from being born with the disease in the first place?

Sigh.

Because He is testing us!

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Sep 30, 2015 • 3:01:14pm

12:45 pm Radar image #Rain moving from SF Bay area towards Sierra. #cawx pic.twitter.com/BkS0gjBH9D

— NWS Sacramento (@NWSSacramento) September 30, 2015

There’s this …stuff… coming from the sky. It seems very strange. I’ll try and take a photo and report back, but if you don’t hear from me ever again plz send help.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 3:02:12pm

re: #194 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Does it rain cats and goats?

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 3:02:40pm

re: #182 Nyet

Or why such a being’s concepts of “good” and “evil” would make any sense to us.

This is why every god I’ve ever heard of anyone believing in always seems an obvious human invention. You either end up trying to explain “Why Bad Things Happen To Good People” with “It’s a Mystery!”, or you end up with a god who is omnipotent but appears capricious by our standards, which is even scarier than no god at all - you never know what he’ll do, or why, or what the effect will be on you.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Sep 30, 2015 • 3:02:42pm

re: #195 Nyet

Does it rain cats and goats?

Dude, I got spattered yesterday.

Fucking pigeons.

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Lidane Sep 30, 2015 • 3:02:52pm

re: #188 ObserverArt

That’s my theory as well.

The Vatican has no direct interest in some hillbilly clerk from Kentucky or her refusal to do her fucking job. A politically motivated American cardinal or bishop, OTOH, would be determined to set up a meeting to somehow bolster the bigot dead-ender cause against gay marriage.

Yes, the Pope opposes gay marriage. Yes, he doesn’t particularly like gays. He’s the Pope. That’s expected of him. He wouldn’t be the head of the RCC if he was actually a liberal. But I don’t see making a point of meeting Kim Davis an important part of the Vatican’s agenda while the Pope was in the US.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Sep 30, 2015 • 3:03:48pm

re: #192 allegro

Their statement made a point to say that this was the doing of the vatican staff and not the local bishops. Thought that was a bit weird actually. Think that was just a pre-emptive diversion from the reality?

The Pope is infallible, you other guys: not so much.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 3:03:55pm

re: #197 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Dude, I got spattered yesterday.

Fucking pigeons.

You were fucking pigeons? No wonder you got spattered!
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Higgs Boson's Mate Sep 30, 2015 • 3:04:39pm

re: #200 Blind Frog Belly White

You were fucking pigeons? No wonder you got spattered!
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Probably forgot the duct tape.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 3:05:13pm

re: #201 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Probably forgot the duct tape.

I thought that particular tape only worked on aquatic birds.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 3:05:25pm

re: #199 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The Pope is infallible

He can’t fall, the Amazing Flying Francis!

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Sep 30, 2015 • 3:05:57pm

The ground is shiny and appears to be wet. This is very strange. pic.twitter.com/ngOKfLs9lU

— sylk (@sylk) September 30, 2015

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 3:06:27pm

re: #194 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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There’s this …stuff… coming from the sky. It seems very strange. I’ll try and take a photo and report back, but if you don’t hear from me ever again plz send help.

Don’t get used to it.

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 3:06:50pm

re: #204 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Any flying elephants in the vicinity?

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Sep 30, 2015 • 3:07:10pm

re: #206 Nyet

Any flying elephants in the vicinity?

I don’t think any GOP candidates are scheduled to speak locally, no.

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Higgs Boson's Mate Sep 30, 2015 • 3:07:29pm

re: #203 Nyet

In the Good Old Days those staffers would have spent the rest of their careers as bandage boys in a leprosarium.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Sep 30, 2015 • 3:07:55pm

On a completely OT note, why is it so complicated to buy a new toilet? Like seriously, how many measurements do I need?

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Nyet Sep 30, 2015 • 3:11:24pm

infallible

Nevalyashka

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ObserverArt Sep 30, 2015 • 3:12:18pm

Watching Hardball (Steve Kornacki) and EJ Dione is saying there is an Italian Bishop at the Vatican Embassy who is very very conservative in social issues and he got the meeting set up. So, it has an Italian/American connection.

This does make some sense.

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ObserverArt Sep 30, 2015 • 3:13:05pm

re: #194 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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There’s this …stuff… coming from the sky. It seems very strange. I’ll try and take a photo and report back, but if you don’t hear from me ever again plz send help.

Yea!!! Good for NorCal!

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Single-handed sailor Sep 30, 2015 • 3:13:45pm

re: #194 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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There’s this …stuff… coming from the sky. It seems very strange. I’ll try and take a photo and report back, but if you don’t hear from me ever again plz send help.

Yep, I measured 0.05” so far today. Roads are greasy, cars are sliding all over the place.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 3:14:50pm

re: #209 klys (maker of Silmarils)

On a completely OT note, why is it so complicated to buy a new toilet? Like seriously, how many measurements do I need?

I think they’re pretty much standard. There’s a hole with a flange and a couple of threaded studs in the floor. If they weren’t always the same, it would make plumbers’ lives hellish.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Sep 30, 2015 • 3:14:57pm

re: #213 Single-handed sailor

Yep, I measured 0.05” so far today. Roads are greasy, cars are sliding all over the place.

I am playing it safe and going nowhere. Bad enough that we had none last year and all the natives have forgotten what little they knew about how to drive in the rain.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 3:15:09pm

re: #213 Single-handed sailor

Yep, I measured 0.05” so far today. Roads are greasy, cars are sliding all over the place.

And me with an overpowered RWD car….

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Sep 30, 2015 • 3:16:08pm

re: #214 Blind Frog Belly White

I think they’re pretty much standard. There’s a hole with a flange and a couple of threaded studs in the floor. If they weren’t always the same, it would make plumbers’ lives hellish.

Ahh, but then you need to consider the bowl height, and how far out it sticks, and )_#(%)#)_%(#.

This may be a bigger issue since my father-in-law is in a wheelchair and our bathrooms are very, very small anyway.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 30, 2015 • 3:17:08pm

re: #204 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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That’s gonna be a mess. Around here, in the Rain Capital of the World™ (we say to keep the tourists away), if it doesn’t rain for a couple of days, the first time a drop hits peoples’ windshields they yell “What the Hell was that?” and slam on their brakes. I can only imagine after a drought like you’ve had. Gonna be slippery as Hell too—stay off the road if you can.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 3:18:43pm

re: #217 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Ahh, but then you need to consider the bowl height, and how far out it sticks, and )_#(%)#)_%(#.

This may be a bigger issue since my father-in-law is in a wheelchair and our bathrooms are very, very small anyway.

Ah. A handicapped-accessible toilet may not be optimal for its primary purpose. Too high.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Sep 30, 2015 • 3:20:51pm

re: #219 Blind Frog Belly White

Ah. A handicapped-accessible toilet may not be optimal for its primary purpose. Too high.

We can make do without handicapped-accessible (has been that way for years and years) but I can’t afford to shave off any more space in the room, so I need to make sure the depth isn’t going to cause problems.

I’d leave it be except that’s the one that needs to be replaced.

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freetoken Sep 30, 2015 • 3:21:25pm

So, the big science news today was the 1000 Genomes project finishing their efforts.

As found in Nature:

[…]

Modelling the distribution of variation within and between genomes can provide insights about the history and demography of our ancestor populations14. We used the pairwise sequentially Markovian coalescent (PSMC)14 method to characterize the effective population size (Ne) of the ancestral populations (Fig. 2b and Extended Data Fig. 7). Our results show a shared demographic history for all humans beyond ~150,000 to 200,000 years ago. Further, they show that European, Asian and American populations shared strong and sustained bottlenecks, all with Ne < 1,500, between 15,000 to 20,000 years ago. In contrast, the bottleneck experienced by African populations during the same time period appears less severe, with Ne > 4,250. These bottlenecks were followed by extremely rapid inferred population growth in non-African populations, with notable exceptions including the PEL, MXL and FIN.

[…]

Crazy scientists, that’s much more than 6000 years.

These results are not so radical anymore, but the further data analysis from 1KGP gives more confidence in the results.

Furthermore:

To characterize more recent patterns of shared ancestry, we first focused on variants observed on just two chromosomes (sample frequency of 0.04%), the rarest shared variants within our sample, and known as f2 variants2. As expected, these variants are typically geographically restricted and much more likely to be shared between individuals in the same population or continental group, or between populations with known recent admixture (Extended Data Fig. 6a, b). Analysis of shared haplotype lengths around f2 variants suggests a median common ancestor ~296 generations ago (7,410 to 8,892 years ago; Extended Data Fig. 6c, d), although those confined within a population tend to be younger, with a shared common ancestor ~143 generations ago (3,570 to 4,284 years ago)13.

What I find interesting about this is that the very rare genotypes, which may be useful as ancestrally informative markers, tend to coalesce around the time of the beginning of agriculture. This suggests to me that the what led to the groups of people today which we define as populations is the result of the adoption of agriculture.

Sorry, no Adam, no Eve.

And definitely no Noah-type bottleneck of 4 couples.

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ObserverArt Sep 30, 2015 • 3:22:03pm

re: #129 Dr. Matt

Hurricane Joaquin Update

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Hey…one of those paths brings the rest of the storm right over Columbus. I remember when that happened with Ike in 2008. Damn, I thought it was still a hurricane. Tore roofs up real bad, kocked over or blew away anything not tied down. I had never seen anything like it in Ohio before.

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BeachDem Sep 30, 2015 • 3:22:30pm

re: #141 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Republicans in charge of Congress can now go back home and talk about how they stood up to the Democrats who run the House and voted against the terrible CR that didn’t defund Planned Parenthood, kill the Iran deal, or repeal Obamacare because the House is run by Democrats.

And the media will shout, “Both sides do it” and move on to the pressing issue of what Donald Trump had for lunch, and how will that impact the next polling period.

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BlueSpotinAL Sep 30, 2015 • 3:23:04pm

re: #189 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Is potassium chloride that hard to get ahold of? I’ve got sodium chloride in the cupboard, used to buy calcium chloride all the time to suck the moisture out of the air and precipitate it into a little bucket…It seems like there used to be “salt substitutes” that were potassium chloride. What am I missing here?

Morton Salt Balance is 25% KCl, 75% NaCl.

Pure KCl will require ebay, amazon, etc.

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Mattand Sep 30, 2015 • 3:24:11pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

Now upgrading to OS X El Capitan. Man, I really hate when system updates give you an estimated time remaining, like 30 minutes - then sit there with no apparent progress for 20 minutes.

Then it suddenly jumps from 30 minutes to 7 minutes and sits there again for 20 more minutes. I’d almost rather have no estimated time displayed than this disquieting behavior.

You’re a braver man than I am. I held off on upgrading to Yoesemite until I got SSDs in my gear, seeing as what a shit show Mavericks turned out to be with platter HDDs.

Matt’s rule of upgrading: always wait for at least the .01 update.

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freetoken Sep 30, 2015 • 3:26:50pm

I only moved to 10.6.8 a bit over a year ago IIRC.

Slow, I am.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 3:27:59pm

re: #224 BlueSpotinAL

Morton Salt Balance is 25% KCl, 75% NaCl.

Pure KCl will require ebay, amazon, etc.

Or Sigma/Aldrich, Baker, etc.

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ObserverArt Sep 30, 2015 • 3:29:27pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

Now upgrading to OS X El Capitan. Man, I really hate when system updates give you an estimated time remaining, like 30 minutes - then sit there with no apparent progress for 20 minutes.

Then it suddenly jumps from 30 minutes to 7 minutes and sits there again for 20 more minutes. I’d almost rather have no estimated time displayed than this disquieting behavior.

It is the old “watched pot never boils”.

I never knew how long a second could be until I got into graphic art production with a computer. Especially in the early days.

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Charles Johnson Sep 30, 2015 • 3:29:39pm

Finished the upgrade, restarted, everything looks good. No problems so far - everything I’ve checked is working fine.

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KGxvi Sep 30, 2015 • 3:29:57pm

re: #225 Mattand

I still occasionally regret upgrading to Windows 98

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 3:30:52pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

Finished the upgrade, restarted, everything looks good. No problems so far - everything I’ve checked is working fine.

very suspicious!

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William Lewis Sep 30, 2015 • 3:31:08pm

re: #36 Nyet

This Pope is better than his predecessors.

Or: maybe his PR is better?

Late reply, but I’d say a bit of both. He is better than the past several. He’s still not going to get me to swim the Tiber but he is better. Plus he does have better PR than certainly Ratzinger/Benedict did. Combined you get what we saw over the past week.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 3:32:00pm

re: #221 freetoken

I may have mentioned a discussion I had on Creationism with a friend, who tried to tell me that if I believed in Evolution, then I must think black people were less evolved. His reasoning was that they stayed behind in Africa while everyone else adapted to their new environment. So many things wrong with that argument.

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wrenchwench Sep 30, 2015 • 3:32:08pm

Figures WSJ is all over this:

Dartmouth’s Native American director accused of misrepresenting her heritage. Good story by @djfroschWSJ http://t.co/QYQsoUvjni

— Ivan Moreno (@IvanJourno) September 30, 2015

[…]

Ms. Reed, who earned her doctorate at Cornell University in American Indian Studies and musicology, has written extensively on Native American culture. But at issue is her background with the Eastern Delaware Nations, which describes itself as a heritage group of sorts for Native Americans in Pennsylvania and notes on its website that some of its members aren’t of Indian descent.

[…]

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Charles Johnson Sep 30, 2015 • 3:32:57pm

It’s been a long time since I’ve had any problems at all with a MAC OS upgrade. I have a pretty high degree of confidence in them at this point.

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KGxvi Sep 30, 2015 • 3:33:24pm

re: #233 Blind Frog Belly White

which is more evolved, a chihuahua or a husky?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 3:33:58pm

re: #233 Blind Frog Belly White

I may have mentioned a discussion I had on Creationism with a friend, who tried to tell me that if I believed in Evolution, then I must think black people were less evolved. His reasoning was that they stayed behind in Africa while everyone else adapted to their new environment. So many things wrong with that argument.

by this reasoning city dwellers will soon outstrip suburbanites in intelligence

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wrenchwench Sep 30, 2015 • 3:35:03pm

Horrible.

Muralist killed while painting “messages of hope and love” in Oakland http://t.co/zThs8z936X

— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) September 30, 2015

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freetoken Sep 30, 2015 • 3:35:58pm

re: #234 wrenchwench

Some large number of otherwise self-identifying European Americans believe they have Native American ancestry. It’s one of the enduring myths of Americana.

Regarding the WSJ - yeah, it’s becoming more transparent in their (Murdoch’s) agenda. Recently a senior editor was a guest on a Newsmax talk show and I thought to myself that if WSJ editors are doing Newsmax then the WSJ will end up like the Daily Mail sooner than I thought.

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Charles Johnson Sep 30, 2015 • 3:36:06pm

Chuck Johnson just published what he says is Ahmed Mohamed’s phone number.

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Skip Intro Sep 30, 2015 • 3:36:33pm

re: #204 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You live in a weird place. Come around 100 miles south and you’ll be back in normal, bone dry 80+ degree days, even at the beach.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 3:37:06pm

re: #236 KGxvi

Neither, but HE would say the Chihuahua.

And of course “more evolved” doesn’t make sense, biologically. It’s not like there’s a goal we’re all evolving towards. It’s not The Island of Dr. Moreau.

Last month, some Creationist clown thought he had a good point when he asked why Chimpanzees haven’t evolved to drive cars and use cell phones.

My answer is, “You did.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat Sep 30, 2015 • 3:37:10pm

re: #184 Nyet

Cults tend to be more recent in their creation rather than existing for millenia.

Yes, that means I’d label any belief system founded in the 1800’s forward as cults.

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HappyWarrior Sep 30, 2015 • 3:37:24pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

Chuck Johnson just published what he says is Ahmed Mohamed’s phone number.

OFFS. It never ends with that freak.

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Skip Intro Sep 30, 2015 • 3:38:07pm

re: #209 klys (maker of Silmarils)

On a completely OT note, why is it so complicated to buy a new toilet? Like seriously, how many measurements do I need?

One, the distance from the wall to the hole. Should be 12 inches. If not, oh-oh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Sep 30, 2015 • 3:38:44pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

Chuck Johnson just published what he says is Ahmed Mohamed’s phone number.

So people can call up and ask him what time it is?

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ObserverArt Sep 30, 2015 • 3:38:52pm

re: #235 Charles Johnson

It’s been a long time since I’ve had any problems at all with a MAC OS upgrade. I have a pretty high degree of confidence in them at this point.

Uh oh! You may have broken the chain.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 3:39:41pm

re: #242 Blind Frog Belly White

Neither, but HE would say the Chihuahua.

And of course “more evolved” doesn’t make sense, biologically. It’s not like there’s a goal we’re all evolving towards. It’s not The Island of Dr. Moreau.

Last month, some Creationist clown thought he had a good point when he asked why Chimpanzees haven’t evolved to drive cars and use cell phones.

My answer is, “You did.”

why havent humans evolved to the point where they can easily swing from tree to tree and scratch their heads with their feet?

we are such a primitive species…

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Poligeek Sep 30, 2015 • 3:39:42pm

re: #235 Charles Johnson

Yeah, its one of the reasons I love the ‘Hackintosh’ side of my PC (Basically a custom built PC fooled into running Mac OSX) - its kind of creepy how everything on a Mac just ‘works’… even though I’ll never be able to give up Windows.. I do way too much PC gaming and the like for it to ever be a total non-part of my life.

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Big Beautiful Door Sep 30, 2015 • 3:40:28pm

re: #243 Eric The Fruit Bat

Cults tend to be more recent in their creation rather than existing for millenia.

Yes, that means I’d label any belief system founded in the 1800’s forward as cults.

So the LDS doesn’t graduate to religion status for another eight or nine centuries?

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ObserverArt Sep 30, 2015 • 3:40:59pm

re: #238 wrenchwench

Horrible.

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Damn. RIP artist.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 30, 2015 • 3:41:03pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

Finished the upgrade, restarted, everything looks good. No problems so far - everything I’ve checked is working fine.

So you just upgraded without cloning your system to an external drive first? It just dropped in in place of Yosemite? Would you recommend that?

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Charles Johnson Sep 30, 2015 • 3:42:04pm

Fuck you. Get lost, asshole. @marcol22

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 30, 2015

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Poligeek Sep 30, 2015 • 3:42:12pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

Chuck Johnson just published what he says is Ahmed Mohamed’s phone number.

As if the real world needed another reason to think the guy is a total dillweed with no redeeming social skills. (I’m referring to the ginger, obviously)

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Bubblehead II Sep 30, 2015 • 3:42:19pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

Chuck Johnson just published what he says is Ahmed Mohamed’s phone number.

And it probably belongs to someone who has no connection to the family.

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 30, 2015 • 3:42:24pm

Nope.
Just. Nope.
Raw: Tourists Brave Glass-Bottom Bridge

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Sep 30, 2015 • 3:42:36pm

re: #233 Blind Frog Belly White

I may have mentioned a discussion I had on Creationism with a friend, who tried to tell me that if I believed in Evolution, then I must think black people were less evolved. His reasoning was that they stayed behind in Africa while everyone else adapted to their new environment. So many things wrong with that argument.

Maybe he would have us believe that White People are more evolved because they adopted a work ethic to cope with a cold, harsh, hostile environment while black people in Africa remained lazy and underdeveloped because nature was bountiful and gave them free stuff.

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Charles Johnson Sep 30, 2015 • 3:42:50pm

re: #252 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So you just upgraded without cloning your system to an external drive first? It just dropped in in place of Yosemite? Would you recommend that?

I have an automatic full backup every night, plus an hourly Time Machine backup. I never do anything without a backup.

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Decatur Deb Sep 30, 2015 • 3:42:54pm

re: #243 Eric The Fruit Bat

Cults tend to be more recent in their creation rather than existing for millenia.

Yes, that means I’d label any belief system founded in the 1800’s forward as cults.

It’s only fairly recently that the term “cult” took on a severely negative tone. (It dates from the rise of coercive, exploitive groups which is a late XX Cent thing.) Before that, it was used less critically for any small religious sect or even a sub-set of a major religion. In the 1950’s a Catholic writer could refer to “the cult of Mary” with no negative overtones. Anthros pretty much use it as a descriptor for any distinguishable religious group.

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freetoken Sep 30, 2015 • 3:43:19pm

re: #233 Blind Frog Belly White

Racism runs deep.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 3:43:58pm

re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

But he has black friends…well, employees, really…who tell him he’s not racist at all!

No, I’m not ////

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BeachDem Sep 30, 2015 • 3:44:37pm

re: #207 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t think any GOP candidates are scheduled to speak locally, no.

They’re all congregated in my fair state for the next 5 months. It’s like an invasion of locusts. They’re EVERYWHERE!!!

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Charles Johnson Sep 30, 2015 • 3:45:48pm

Immediately noticing a nice speed increase with El Capitan. Switching between apps is almost instantaneous now.

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KGxvi Sep 30, 2015 • 3:46:14pm

re: #256 The Vicious Babushka

that actually looks amazing, I’d be the guy tap dancing across.

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 3:46:59pm

re: #260 freetoken

But, you know, because I believe in Evolution, so I must think blacks are less evolved, plus Eugenics, so I’m the REAL racist.
//

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Eric The Fruit Bat Sep 30, 2015 • 3:47:06pm

re: #224 BlueSpotinAL

Usually CaCl is good enough to suck moisture out of the air - if you really need to suck moisture out of the air you can buy the silicon gel packs from Amazon in various sizes.

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blueraven Sep 30, 2015 • 3:47:56pm

Unreal

With all the news today Russia/Syria, government funding…CNN and MSNBC (Breaking News!!) is running Trump’s speech in NH. What is this hell we call cable news?

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 3:48:24pm

re: #256 The Vicious Babushka

Nope.
Just. Nope.
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“A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me. I’m afraid of widths.” - Steven Wright.

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ObserverArt Sep 30, 2015 • 3:49:33pm

Just got back to MSNBC and TRUMP® is repeating his shtick in Keene, Hew Hampshire at a town hall meeting they are apparently showing.

Please…how the hell long can this show go on????

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 3:53:00pm

re: #267 blueraven

I’m reminded of the ‘Taxi’ episode where Jim Ignatowski wins a lot of money, and spends it all getting a bunch of TVs installed in his apartment. Everyone thinks he’s crazy, but they all end up hanging out at his place, watching TV.

The best line of that episode:

“And you know, Alex, the best thing is that if something important happens anywhere in the world, any time day or night - you can always change the channel.”

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BeachDem Sep 30, 2015 • 3:54:38pm

re: #267 blueraven

Unreal

With all the news today Russia/ Syria, government funding…CNN and MSNBC (Breaking News!!) is running Trump’s speech in NH. What is this hell we call cable news?

So, I wasn’t very far off with this
littlegreenfootballs.com

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freetoken Sep 30, 2015 • 3:55:34pm

re: #269 ObserverArt

Please…how the hell long can this show go on????

There is no end.

This is the never-ending campaign.

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Lidane Sep 30, 2015 • 3:56:51pm

re: #256 The Vicious Babushka

Glass bottom suspension bridge?

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blueraven Sep 30, 2015 • 3:58:30pm

re: #271 BeachDem

So, I wasn’t very far off with this
littlegreenfootballs.com

Seriously, everything on cable news boils down to “What does Donald Trump have to say about it”. It is totally insane and sick as fuck.

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BeachDem Sep 30, 2015 • 3:59:24pm

As if Friend-o-Palin dentist Gosar didn’t make enough of a fool of himself at yesterday’s PP “hearing,” now he’s trying to raise money for being a dickwhistle about the pope.

Arizona Repub tries to raise $25,000 by attacking ‘leftist’ Pope Francis ‘for America!’

rawstory.com

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Stanley Sea Toujours Sep 30, 2015 • 3:59:29pm

re: #210 Nyet

Waited for cat. Forever.

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Decatur Deb Sep 30, 2015 • 4:01:12pm

re: #272 freetoken

There is no end.

This is the never-ending campaign.

Yes, but we’re entering the Game of Thrones phase of the TPGOP race. Soon there will be a shocking obliteration every week.

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Jenner7 Sep 30, 2015 • 4:02:21pm

Did Trump just say reducing it “bigly”?

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Nojay UK Sep 30, 2015 • 4:03:03pm

re: #273 Lidane

Glass bottom suspension bridge?

Points down, says “Is that a crack?” in a concerned voice.

There’s a glass-panel floor in the Tokyo Skytree viewing gallery on the lower 350 metre level. See it here (fifth picture down the page). I tried jumping up and down on it when I was there last year but I had to take my shoes off (this is Japan after all).

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Stanley Sea Toujours Sep 30, 2015 • 4:03:07pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

Chuck Johnson just published what he says is Ahmed Mohamed’s phone number.

I thought he was Ashley Madison trolling? gah that fuck.

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Brian J. Sep 30, 2015 • 4:04:00pm

re: #275 BeachDem

Obviously Gosar missed today’s memo. We are allies with the Pope from Eurasia, we have always been allies with the Pope from Eurasia.

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Jenner7 Sep 30, 2015 • 4:04:16pm

Speaking about Bergdahl, Donald Trump asks “what did we do in the old days when we were strong.” Audience replies “shoot them”

— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) September 30, 2015

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Stanley Sea Toujours Sep 30, 2015 • 4:04:19pm

re: #250 Big Beautiful Door

Like the new nic much.

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KGxvi Sep 30, 2015 • 4:04:20pm

re: #277 Decatur Deb

Sadly there is no one smart enough in the TPGOP to pull off either the Red Wedding or the Purple Wedding. They’re more like Cersi stacking the small council with sycophants and wondering why it all went awry.

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Lidane Sep 30, 2015 • 4:05:30pm

*headdesk*

Rick Santorum defends Kim Davis by invoking the Nuremberg trial and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://t.co/MDxBIFhwjO

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 30, 2015

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 4:06:48pm

re: #285 Lidane

*headdesk*

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She ‘vass chust follovink orderss’ from a higher power?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 4:07:02pm

re: #277 Decatur Deb

Yes, but we’re entering the Game of Thrones phase of the TPGOP race. Soon there will be a shocking obliteration every week.

i think trump will stay in for a while…

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Eric The Fruit Bat Sep 30, 2015 • 4:09:13pm

Poor CCJ: It appears his Hot Asian Wife can’t get the right cocktail of atypicals to make him sane-or maybe this was just a ruse all along for her and/or her family to get green cards. Then again I noted that Derbyshire has an Asian wife as well as several other noted Republicans. Statistically that’s outrageous.

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lawhawk Sep 30, 2015 • 4:10:26pm

So, after my earlier encounter with the Crowder chowderheads, one of them is still at it with nonsensical ravings about how birth control includes abortifacients. Therefore, leftists have expanded birth control to include abortion = murder.

Identifying this for what it was simple enough. Claiming plan B and ella are abortifacients, even though they have nothing to do with the same biological processes, and that those two drugs actually prevent abortion. They prevent ovulation from happening, but the anti-choice extremists are pulling this crap out of a hat too.

So, when confronted with that, this guy goes on the Gish gallop about how the science isnt settled with climate change.

Oy.

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TedStriker Sep 30, 2015 • 4:11:32pm

re: #279 Nojay UK

Points down, says “Is that a crack?” in a concerned voice.

There’s a glass-panel floor in the Tokyo Skytree viewing gallery on the lower 350 metre level. See it here (fifth picture down the page). I tried jumping up and down on it when I was there last year but I had to take my shoes off (this is Japan after all).

Also, there’s a cantilevered all-glass box at the observation deck of the Willis (formerly Sears) Tower in Chicago:

Cool as hell and a wonder of engineering, but I’m all like:

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 4:17:34pm

re: #289 lawhawk

So, when confronted with that, this guy goes on the Gish gallop about how the science isnt settled with climate change.

Oy.

Well, you know, if they can’t tell us EXACTLY how bad it will be, then clearly they don’t know anything at all.

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wrenchwench Sep 30, 2015 • 4:18:19pm

Great Barrier Reef: High-tech Fertilizers And Other #Science To The Rescue — http://t.co/wNdKNOKeeM via @science2_0 pic.twitter.com/8rtePa4lAH

— Francis Unson (@DJFrankieee) September 30, 2015

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Big Beautiful Door Sep 30, 2015 • 4:18:51pm

re: #287 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

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For example, Paul, Christie and Huck are in danger of missing the cut for the main CNBC debate.

vox.com

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Lidane Sep 30, 2015 • 4:19:22pm

re: #288 Eric The Fruit Bat

Possible evidence that CCJ’s been in Florida recently?

Florida Man Breaks Into Bar, Defecates on Floor For Some Reason http://t.co/aTTDlGGCcV

— Florida Man (@_FloridaMan) September 19, 2015

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Charles Johnson Sep 30, 2015 • 4:23:06pm

I was sorry to hear Kevin McCarthy became a Republican. He was so good in “Invasion of the Body Snatchers.”

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 30, 2015

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ObserverArt Sep 30, 2015 • 4:23:41pm

re: #272 freetoken

There is no end.

This is the never-ending campaign.

Well yes, that.

But I mean how he can repeat this same stupid crap over and over. I know they all have stump speeches they stick too, but it is all Trump bluster with more Trump bluster added based on the latest news stories, etc.

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Jenner7 Sep 30, 2015 • 4:24:55pm

Trump says that if he wins Presidency, he’s going to send the Syrian refugees back.

Nice.

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darthstar Sep 30, 2015 • 4:29:04pm

@SenSanders on punk. pic.twitter.com/jvn3jGsz0U

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) September 30, 2015

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Eric The Fruit Bat Sep 30, 2015 • 4:30:24pm

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Isn’t that a violation of the Book of Faces TOS?

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darthstar Sep 30, 2015 • 4:30:26pm

@SenSanders One more. pic.twitter.com/phsXB81EyF

— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) September 30, 2015

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darthstar Sep 30, 2015 • 4:30:52pm

THe rest here:
dangerousminds.net

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TedStriker Sep 30, 2015 • 4:31:39pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

I liked the real Kevin McCarthy a lot in Innerspace and UHF myself…he did “smarmy, smug bad guy” very well:

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William Lewis Sep 30, 2015 • 4:31:52pm

re: #298 darthstar

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Cute snark. I’ll still stick to the Who & the Clash, thanks.

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 30, 2015 • 4:32:11pm

Oh this idiot.

@viciousbabushka @vintagegoddess @lawhawk it matters to me if my nation is killing & chop shopping baby humans or not. I’ve been to Dachau.

— Uneasy Civilian (@HercFamily5) September 30, 2015

@viciousbabushka @vintagegoddess @lawhawk Watch it & in context even most casual observer sees she meant “make big bucks” no jest at all.

— Uneasy Civilian (@HercFamily5) September 30, 2015

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 4:33:36pm

re: #302 TedStriker

I liked the real Kevin McCarthy a lot in Innerspace and UHF myself…he did smarmy bad guy very well:

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He had that distinctive voice going for him.

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The Vicious Babushka Sep 30, 2015 • 4:34:22pm

Gah. Blocked that fucking idiot.

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lawhawk Sep 30, 2015 • 4:36:04pm

re: #304 The Vicious Babushka

Blocked that nitwit this afternoon. Got another nitwit who’s slightly more coherent, but just as disingenuous about PP and paying for BC.

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lawhawk Sep 30, 2015 • 4:38:09pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Sep 30, 2015 • 4:40:05pm

here is my submission for atheist grace:

“out of the randomness of a meaningless universe we have received a bounty which we can not possibly deserve. let us rededicate ourselves to living a moral and caring life, throwing it in the face of a reality that doesnt know, doesnt care, and rewards evil as often as good”

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Blind Frog Belly White Sep 30, 2015 • 4:40:44pm

re: #307 lawhawk

Blocked that nitwit this afternoon. Got another nitwit who’s slightly more coherent, but just as disingenuous about PP and paying for BC.

Scratch a prolifer and you’ll uncover a slutshamer.

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ObserverArt Sep 30, 2015 • 4:49:58pm

re: #303 William Lewis

Cute snark. I’ll still stick to the Who & the Clash, thanks.

…and just by extension…The Jam!

Which I actually like more now than then. But that is colored by the ongoing career of one Paul Weller who is still one of my favorites. Played Heavy Soul just the other night. Going for Stanley Road as the interlude in the Friday night guitar jams with my buddy.

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Shiplord Kirel Sep 30, 2015 • 4:53:19pm

re: #256 The Vicious Babushka

Nope.
Just. Nope.
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OH HELL NO!

I’m notably afraid of heights. Balconies, rooftops, tall structures of any kind, terrify me. Strangely, I have been a pilot for 50 years but have never had this fear of heights in an aircraft, even in open cockpits miles above the Earth. I once asked an aviation psychologist about this anomaly. She told me it was not uncommon at all. Her explanation is that when you’re in an aircraft, it becomes the ground to your subconscious mind, while on a tall structure or a natural height of some kind, your subconscious still recognizes the ground far below and is duly alarmed.
My wife teased me about this when we visited the CN Tower in Toronto. The restaurant on top had a big section of glass floor that you (not I) could walk out on. There were children playing on it while I was a cringing mass of jelly six feet from the edge.
“Ha, little kids do what the shit-hot chopper ace is afraid to try!” she mocked.
I countered that I was also afraid to eat bugs or play in sewage while many little kids had no compunction about doing so. I also claimed that people who were afraid of heights were obviously more highly evolved, since those of our ancestors who lacked this useful precautionary instinct were likely to fall out of a tree or walk off a cliff before they could reproduce.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Sep 30, 2015 • 4:56:42pm

re: #301 darthstar

hahahaha could be true.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Sep 30, 2015 • 4:58:15pm

re: #312 Shiplord Kirel

OH HELL NO!

I’m notably afraid of heights. Balconies, rooftops, tall structures of any kind, terrify me. Strangely, I have been a pilot for 50 years but have never had this fear of heights in an aircraft, even in open cockpits miles above the Earth. I once asked an aviation psychologist about this anomaly. She told me it was not uncommon at all. Her explanation is that when you’re in an aircraft, it becomes the ground to your subconscious mind, while on a tall structure or a natural height of some kind, your subconscious still recognizes the ground far below and is duly alarmed.
My wife teased me about this when we visited the CN Tower in Toronto. The restaurant on top had a big section of glass floor that you (not I) could walk out on. There were children playing on it while I was a cringing mass of jelly six feet from the edge.
“Ha, little kids do what the shit-hot chopper ace is afraid to try!” she mocked.
I countered that I was also afraid to eat bugs or play in sewage while many little kids had no compunction about doing so. I also claimed that people who were afraid of heights were obviously more highly evolved, since those of our ancestors who lacked this useful precautionary instinct were likely to fall out of a tree or walk off a cliff before they could reproduce.

I’m pretty much the opposite. As long as I have something solid to stand on, I enjoy the view. There’s an overlook in Okanogan county, off the North Cascades highway, where the cliff actually goes in quite a bit below the guardrail. I used to love hanging forward way out past the rail, looking at the road winding by thousands of feet below.

OTOH, I’m terrified on the second step of a rickety stepladder….

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Bubblehead II Sep 30, 2015 • 4:59:41pm

Test. And yes, you failed it. :-)

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Sep 30, 2015 • 5:03:12pm

re: #256 The Vicious Babushka

Nope.
Just. Nope.
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In July, on my last day of school we had to kill a few state mandated hours at the Sewage Treatment Center near the Phila Intl Airport. It was interesting (to me, anyway), but the funnest part was wen we got to the stage where microbes eat the sludge out of the sludge. It’s covered by a concrete roof/floor, which I realized was kind of springy, so I started jumping up and down. I never saw people run so fast, even the tour guide was hauling ass, and she was the only one who knew which way to run.

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Archangelus Sep 30, 2015 • 5:05:15pm

re: #256 The Vicious Babushka

Nope.
Just. Nope.
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lawhawk Sep 30, 2015 • 5:05:25pm

.@oreillyfactor: “Many Americans are simply dumb…they don’t pay attention, they don’t care.” #OReillyFactor pic.twitter.com/8sY7paYFKS

— Fox News (@FoxNews) October 1, 2015

Most of them are FoxNews viewers.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Sep 30, 2015 • 5:11:10pm

Don’t forget the Grand Canyon Sky Deck

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nines09 Sep 30, 2015 • 5:12:00pm

re: #318 lawhawk

Fox News depends on dumb to survive. Hell, they teach dumb. You too can be dumb. Tune in and dumb on down.

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lawhawk Sep 30, 2015 • 5:12:12pm

re: #319 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

The Eiffel Tower and CN Tower also have similar features - see-through floors.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Sep 30, 2015 • 5:14:37pm

re: #318 lawhawk

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Most of them are FoxNews viewers.

That’s real? They just insulted their viewers.

Oh nah, all their viewers think they are the better ones. The smarter ones.

geez

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Varek Raith Sep 30, 2015 • 5:18:43pm

Spider.

Click to Reveal

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Amory Blaine Sep 30, 2015 • 5:20:10pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

Beats the new Windows with their “I’m just polishing shit up, it will be a couple of moment” bullshit. Like I have a condescending IT guy in my room.

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Targetpractice Sep 30, 2015 • 5:21:01pm

re: #323 Varek Raith

Spider.

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Amory Blaine Sep 30, 2015 • 5:21:12pm

re: #152 Nyet

The problem with defining a good God is the good old Euthyphro dilemma: is “good” independent from God or not? If good = merely what God says is good, then God can tell you to [insert the most abominable thing you can imagine here], and that will be good by def. If good is independent from God, then, basically, God is not absolute.

The gun is good.

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freetoken Sep 30, 2015 • 5:21:18pm

Why Jeb Bush Sees Himself as the John McCain of 2016

I guess that includes losing, too.

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Varek Raith Sep 30, 2015 • 5:21:53pm

re: #324 Amory Blaine

Beats the new Windows with their “I’m just polishing shit up, it will be a couple of moment” bullshit. Like I have a condescending IT guy in my room.

Lucky Star - File Transfer

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Sep 30, 2015 • 5:23:08pm

re: #326 Amory Blaine

The gun is good.

On which day did God create Gun? I guess He saw that it was good and one night He took some metal from the breech and made bullets, and he saw that they were good.

330

Amory Blaine Sep 30, 2015 • 5:24:05pm

Zardoz says it’s good and I am one of the chosen ones so…

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ObserverArt Sep 30, 2015 • 5:25:14pm

re: #296 ObserverArt

Well yes, that.

But I mean how he can repeat this same stupid crap over and over. I know they all have stump speeches they stick too, but it is all Trump bluster with more Trump bluster added based on the latest news stories, etc.

The only reason I am quoting myself is I’ve had MSNBC going in the background as I work on my house. I’ve now heard two people mention my very comment in a different way but the same theme…repeat with added new crap from popular media.

I should start a cable news network.

OAN! (ObserverArt News - Pronounced own)

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William Lewis Sep 30, 2015 • 5:26:10pm

re: #312 Shiplord Kirel

Yep. Oh, yep. Love to fly. Can not stand tall buildings and other heights.

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Stanley Sea Toujours Sep 30, 2015 • 5:27:03pm

“Don’t romanticize knowing the difference between pepper spray & pepper balls. Why do we have to know the difference?”- @deray #ChapmanPR

— Sara Sajer (@sarasajer) October 1, 2015

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freetoken Sep 30, 2015 • 5:28:09pm

Ann Coulter is complaining about brown people, again.

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Varek Raith Sep 30, 2015 • 5:29:29pm

Well, this is going to be a problem.
nhc.noaa.gov

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Higgs Boson's Mate Sep 30, 2015 • 5:29:54pm

re: #331 ObserverArt

The only reason I am quoting myself is I’ve had MSNBC going in the background as I work on my house. I’ve now heard two people mention my very comment in a different way but the same theme…repeat with added new crap from popular media.

I should start a cable news network.

OAN! (ObserverArt News - Pronounced own)

After a while, Pavlov’s dogs salivated when the bell was rung whether they received anything of substance or not. Trump knows how to ring this bell.

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freetoken Sep 30, 2015 • 5:31:11pm

re: #335 Varek Raith

“Joaquin”.

See, even the brown weather is invading us.

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TedStriker Sep 30, 2015 • 5:31:33pm

re: #323 Varek Raith

Spider.

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Timothy Watson Sep 30, 2015 • 5:33:14pm

re: #335 Varek Raith

Well, this is going to be a problem.
nhc.noaa.gov

Ah, shit.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Sep 30, 2015 • 5:35:34pm

re: #335 Varek Raith

Well, this is going to be a problem.
nhc.noaa.gov

Always read the forecast discussion before freaking out.

2. A significant adjustment to the forecast has been made this
afternoon, and this shows an increased threat to the mid-Atlantic
states and the Carolinas. However, confidence in the details of the
forecast after 72 hours remains low, since we have one normally
excellent model that keeps Joaquin far away from the United States
east coast. The range of possible outcomes is still large, and
includes the possibility of a major hurricane landfall in the
Carolinas.

Prepare, sure. I am always in favor of being prepared.

341

jaunte Sep 30, 2015 • 5:35:49pm

Disenfranchisement continues:

I smell a lawsuit. | Voter ID and driver’s license office closures black-out Alabama’s Black Belt http://t.co/2IULUosxfS #twibdocket

— Imani Gandy (@AngryBlackLady) October 1, 2015

342

The Vicious Babushka Sep 30, 2015 • 5:36:10pm

LOL

Trump’s military prep school alma mater sold to Chinese investors for $15 million http://t.co/XBCKGEoWNi

— Raw Story (@RawStory) October 1, 2015

343

Stanley Sea Toujours Sep 30, 2015 • 5:37:44pm

re: #339 Timothy Watson

Ah, shit.

It’s the last day of National Preparedness month so get it going.

ready.gov

344

Varek Raith Sep 30, 2015 • 5:39:42pm

re: #340 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Always read the forecast discussion before freaking out.

Prepare, sure. I am always in favor of being prepared.

True.
The problem is that on Friday we will be hit by a Nor’easter with 3-6 inches of rain.
Whee!

345

Varek Raith Sep 30, 2015 • 5:40:41pm

patch.com

Funtimes!
I blame the Pope.

346

klys (maker of Silmarils) Sep 30, 2015 • 5:41:26pm

re: #344 Varek Raith

True.
The problem is that on Friday we will be hit by a Nor’easter with 3-6 inches of rain.
Whee!

I keep hearing about how the northeast is in a moderate drought though, and needs the rain. Stop your whining!

347

Varek Raith Sep 30, 2015 • 5:42:27pm

re: #346 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I keep hearing about how the northeast is in a moderate drought though, and needs the rain. Stop your whining!

NO!
:P

348

Decatur Deb Sep 30, 2015 • 5:45:55pm

re: #341 jaunte

Disenfranchisement continues:

Twenty-nine counties now have no place where you can get a driver’s license.

How coincidental—our picture ID voter requirement has been largely upheld. (So far.)

349

Varek Raith Sep 30, 2015 • 5:45:58pm

re: #338 TedStriker

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What’s the big deal?
Spiders are neat.
Wimps.
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350

William Lewis Sep 30, 2015 • 5:49:31pm

So today is my 52nd birthday. Worked last night and work tonight so nothing terribly exciting :D One beer after work then off to bed I went.

After I got up this afternoon, I did make it out to the range and got a bit of WWII action going - M1 carbine and my 1911A1. I got the carbine not too long ago for about half the going rate for shooter grade ones. And it is a lot of fun. Still there’s a local gun show coming up 3 weekends from now and I’m tempted to see if I can get that going rate. With careful ammo choice and shot placement it’s acceptable for deer hunting (about the same as a 357 magnum) so it has practical use but the budget is always tight and $800+ would be a big help.

The quality time by myself hunting the wily paper-plate today didn’t help matters though, LOL.

Decisions decisions…

351

ObserverArt Sep 30, 2015 • 5:52:52pm

re: #350 William Lewis

So today is my 52nd birthday. Worked last night and work tonight so nothing terribly exciting :D One beer after work then off to bed I went.

After I got up this afternoon, I did make it out to the range and got a bit of WWII action going - M1 carbine and my 1911A1. I got the carbine not too long ago for about half the going rate for shooter grade ones. And it is a lot of fun. Still there’s a local gun show coming up 3 weekends from now and I’m tempted to see if I can get that going rate. With careful ammo choice and shot placement it’s acceptable for deer hunting (about the same as a 357 magnum) so it has practical use but the budget is always tight and $800+ would be a big help.

The quality time by myself hunting the wily paper-plate today didn’t help matters though, LOL.

Decisions decisions…

Happy B-Day William. Good guitar playing in the future!

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Bubblehead II Sep 30, 2015 • 5:53:53pm

Night Lizards. May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and yours.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut Oct 2, 2015 • 7:49:34am

FYI, Vatican now stating that Ms. Davis was one of “several people” the Pope was giving audience to at the time and the Vatican does not necessarily support Ms. Davis’ position. He was just “being kind.”

Looks like her scumbag lawyers duped the Pope and his entourage. These people have no shame, and it’s too bad the Pope had to learn the hard way how America’s Evangelical right wing operates. His naiveté greatly damaged a ton of goodwill he was looking for during this trip. The weird thing is these Evangelicals generally despise the Pope from the outset.

Seeking out an audience with him should have sent up red flags, but I guess his handlers have no experience with the 2% of the world’s population that has manufactured their own bubble universe here in America.

Spy Auto

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