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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2016 • 10:01:51pm

I’m waiting for the SNL skit where Bernie and Hillary sing “Mockingbird”…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 23, 2016 • 10:07:54pm

re: #1 Joe Bacon

or “Margaritaville”.

Can’t you just imagine “Bernie” singing:

Some people claim that there’s a woman to blame,
But I know it’s nobody’s fault.

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makeitstop  Apr 23, 2016 • 10:13:24pm

The end of SNL was disappointing - should have bailed when they started running the ‘Prince Show’ skits.

The music clips were outstanding, though.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 23, 2016 • 10:15:57pm

re: #3 makeitstop

The end of SNL was disappointing - should have bailed when they started running the ‘Prince Show’ skits.

The music clips were outstanding, though.

Thanks, I’m too tired to stay up. So decision made = sweet bed.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 23, 2016 • 11:19:07pm

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freetoken  Apr 24, 2016 • 12:02:01am
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freetoken  Apr 24, 2016 • 12:58:04am
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Ming5000  Apr 24, 2016 • 2:10:18am

re: #7 freetoken

1:42 in and my scalp got goose bumps…. like my hair was standing on end.
I’ll have to save this for later.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 2:27:22am

My project today was to clean out the fungus growth inside my Nikkor 200mm AI lens. I never knew such a thing could happen, but it seems to be a common enough problem for many YouTube videos.

Anyway, I had to order a new set of screwdrivers to get the size (1.0 mm) for the tiny screw holding the forward barrel secure, so I could get to the back side of the front lens. That cleaned up easily. No etching of the glass or coating.

But, there is also a small amount of fungus growing in the inside of the rear elements. As I don’t have any tool available to loosen the ring holding the rear lens in place, I just left it alone. The fungus doesn’t seem to interfere with image quality as much as the front contamination did.

So, I call it 85% successful for a couple of hours work.

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Ming5000  Apr 24, 2016 • 2:44:50am

re: #9 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Congratulations for not losing a screw. I find that keeping those things corralled is difficult to do.

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freetoken  Apr 24, 2016 • 2:51:00am

re: #8 Ming5000

It’s a bit of a cult film. An “art” film, it will not appeal to the typical American palate.

imdb.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 2:51:16am

re: #10 Ming5000

Congratulations for not losing a screw. I find that keeping those things corralled is difficult to do.

I put them in a lens cap, and my screwdriver is magnetic, so I managed not to lose any — this time.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 3:03:55am

So, I’ve signed up on freelancer.com, looking for writing and editing gigs, and getting disgusted (as a teacher) by the number of “academic writing” jobs that are basically lazy-ass students not willing to do their own homework.

Then I came across this one, with a budget of $170.

Poor baby!
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Archangelus  Apr 24, 2016 • 4:05:11am

re: #13 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So, I’ve signed up on freelancer.com, looking for writing and editing gigs, and getting disgusted (as a teacher) by the number of “academic writing” jobs that are basically lazy-ass students not willing to do their own homework.

Then I came across this one, with a budget of $170.

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On the one hand, it’s good to see that I’m not the only one to come across the sea of “academic” writing “jobs” to be found there. On the other hand, knowing with certainty that it isn’t just me makes the reality of it all the more depressing…

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 24, 2016 • 4:25:16am

The Ted Cruz bad lip reading you can click on after this one is hilarious.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 24, 2016 • 4:37:17am

re: #9 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My project today was to clean out the fungus growth inside my Nikkor 200mm AI lens. I never knew such a thing could happen, but it seems to be a common enough problem for many YouTube videos.

Anyway, I had to order a new set of screwdrivers to get the size (1.0 mm) for the tiny screw holding the forward barrel secure, so I could get to the back side of the front lens. That cleaned up easily. No etching of the glass or coating.

But, there is also a small amount of fungus growing in the inside of the rear elements. As I don’t have any tool available to loosen the ring holding the rear lens in place, I just left it alone. The fungus doesn’t seem to interfere with image quality as much as the front contamination did.

So, I call it 85% successful for a couple of hours work.

Might try storing the lens (not the camera) in a sealed container with a good bit of silica gel when not in use. It won’t remove the fungus, but might slow growth/acid production. Disregard if there are any adhesive-dependent parts—it will dessicate and loosen the glues.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 4:43:45am

re: #16 Decatur Deb

Might try storing the lens (not the camera) in a sealed container with a good bit of silica gel when not in use. It won’t remove the fungus, but might slow growth/acid production. Disregard if there are any adhesive-dependent parts—it will dessicate and loosen the glues.

Will do, though the climate here is damp all year round. I made the mistake of putting the lens away for over a year without using it. It needs “airing out,” I guess.

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sagehen  Apr 24, 2016 • 4:54:23am

re: #1 Joe Bacon

I’m waiting for the SNL skit where Bernie and Hillary sing “Mockingbird”…

How about this number, from “Annie Get Your Gun”

Anything you can do I can do better.avi

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Decatur Deb  Apr 24, 2016 • 4:55:10am

re: #17 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Will do, though the climate here is damp all year round. I made the mistake of putting the lens away for over a year without using it. It needs “airing out,” I guess.

A Nikkor might be worth shipping off for a good clean/lubricate/adjust. Another thing about silica gel—it can be ‘recharged’ indefinitely by leaving it in an oven at temps just above pilot light for a few hours. Even a jury-rigged solar warmer might work.

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Alyosha  Apr 24, 2016 • 5:08:46am

Just returned from another BBQ hosted by an avid Berner expat with leftover brisket and Texas-style macaroni and cheese.

His words: ‘you could’ve told me you were a Trump supporter and I’d have said “you are a moron… let’s party.”’

Reminds me of this from last night.

And some are fucking awesome.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 5:41:05am

re: #19 Decatur Deb

A Nikkor might be worth shipping off for a good clean/lubricate/adjust. Another thing about silica gel—it can be ‘recharged’ indefinitely by leaving it in an oven at temps just above pilot light for a few hours. Even a jury-rigged solar warmer might work.

I would if I were in the States. I was not impressed by the last clean/lube/adjust I had done on another lens here. The cleaning was OK, but the iris sticks sometimes, messing up exposures. Anyway, those two lenses are spare parts now. Instead of the 200mm Nikkor I use a Tamron zoom with VR, and the new kit lens with my D3300 replaces the other Nikkor 28-85mm* non-VR lens I tried to salvage. I think I’ll try to sell these extra lenses on eBay, because now I don’t really need them.

The Nikkor 200mm is a nice lens, though.

* I’ve forgotten the specs on it. I should probably pull that out and inspect it too for fungal growth.

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William Lewis  Apr 24, 2016 • 5:49:18am

This discussion makes me think I should look for some Pre-AI lenses again, especially a 24/2.8, for my micro 4/3 adapter. Cheap way get really nice glass at a 2:1 crop ratio. My nikkor 50/1.4 makes an excellent portrait/short Tele for example.

Canon FD glass is nice that way too.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 5:57:20am

re: #22 William Lewis

I like the new AF zoom lenses for their convenience, but the old AI prime lenses seem much sharper.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 24, 2016 • 6:13:31am

I just looked up silica gel on amazon. Here are the results: amazon.com

It may help keep your camera lenses fungus free. And yes I too would clean up a Nikkor lens.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 6:21:11am

re: #24 PhillyPretzel

I just looked up silica gel on amazon. Here are the results: amazon.com

It may help keep your camera lenses fungus free. And yes I too would clean up a Nikkor lens.

The older ones are worth the effort.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2016 • 6:27:30am

Wow.

The “Batdance” remix with Big Daddy Kane that Warner Brothers wouldn’t release…

Prince - “Batdance” (Remix) (Feat. Big Daddy Kane)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 24, 2016 • 6:28:35am

re: #26 Joe Bacon

Wow.

The “Batdance” remix with Big Daddy Kane that Warner Brothers wouldn’t release…

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“Batman soundtrack?”

“Fling it!!!”

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Alyosha  Apr 24, 2016 • 6:42:37am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 6:43:40am

re: #28 Alyosha

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needs to be updated with Kim Jong-un

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Alyosha  Apr 24, 2016 • 6:47:21am

re: #29 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I see you’ve been taken in by decadent Western propaganda, too.

/

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b.d.  Apr 24, 2016 • 6:49:45am

Let the people decide! A debate in Austin about renaming Robert E. Lee Elementary School and what they should change it to.

Good morning Lizards.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 24, 2016 • 6:53:33am

re: #31 b.d.

Let the people decide! A debate in Austin about renaming Robert E. Lee Elementary School and what they should change it to.

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Good morning Lizards.

Good that they’re having that debate. There’s a highway in northern Virginia with Lee’s name on it and I would love for that to be changed since that’s a more liberal part of the state.

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Nyet  Apr 24, 2016 • 6:55:23am

re: #28 Alyosha

There’s dark humor… and then there’s this.

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b.d.  Apr 24, 2016 • 6:56:20am

re: #32 Patricia Kayden

Good that they’re having that debate. There’s a highway in northern Virginia with Lee’s name on it and I would love for that to be changed since that’s a more liberal part of the state.

I’ll never understand how things got named after the losers in the first place?

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Alyosha  Apr 24, 2016 • 6:59:09am

re: #33 Nyet

Fark!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:04:22am

re: #31 b.d.

This has got to be fake. But then again, it looks like it came from a local Fox outfit….

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ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:09:11am

Morning!

Heard some interesting Democratic election news this morning on local Columbus NBC. They were talking about Tuesday’s primaries and that Hillary was ahead in all the polls. Then they mentioned Hillary is already preparing for the general election and thinking of VP running mates.

They mentioned two we’ve all heard discussed; Tim Kaine and Julian Castro.

And then I realized why Columbus media was spending time talking about Clinton running mates. The third name is Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown. That’d be cool. I’ve known and followed him from his first political run as an Ohio state representative in 1974. And he is a home town boy.

And Brown has deep liberal cred and he too is a big bank fighter…so Hillary could use him as her own Glass-Steagall Act rebuilder type. Take that!

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Decatur Deb  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:09:44am

re: #24 PhillyPretzel

I just looked up silica gel on amazon. Here are the results: amazon.com

It may help keep your camera lenses fungus free. And yes I too would clean up a Nikkor lens.

The 2 lb bottles of gel with blue indicator look like the cheapest/best bet—that way you know your dessicant is working.

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b.d.  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:10:34am

re: #36 Eric The Fruit Bat

This has got to be fake. But then again, it looks like it came from a local Fox outfit….

It’s real and there are obviously other nominees but Austin has a history of voting on the same issue over and over and over again until they get the results they want.

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Alyosha  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:16:27am

Australian bank ad addressing the pay gap.
Kids of varying sexes are tasked with same job and paid differently. Reactions follow.

This just showed up as the pre-clip ad on Youtube. Some of it seems scripted but it’s pretty funny.
I burst out laughing in the scene where the two-presumptive sisters look at their brother.

ANZ #EqualFuture - Pocket Money

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Alyosha  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:20:31am

I ‘liked’ a Youtube ad and I don’t feel nearly as dirty as I thought I would. Nice.

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Jay C  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:22:49am

re: #37 ObserverArt

Morning!

Heard some interesting Democratic election news this morning on local Columbus NBC. They were talking about Tuesday’s primaries and that Hillary was ahead in all the polls. Then they mentioned Hillary is already preparing for the general election and thinking of VP running mates.

They mentioned two we’ve all heard discussed; Tim Kaine and Julian Castro.

And then I realized why Columbus media was spending time talking about Clinton running mates. The third name is Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown. That’d be cool. I’ve known and followed him from his first political run as an Ohio state representative in 1974. And he is a home town boy.

And Brown has deep liberal cred and he too is a big bank fighter…so Hillary could use him as her own Glass-Steagall Act rebuilder type. Take that!

Wouldn’t a major downside to Sherrod Brown (PS: IMO, an excellent candidate!) running on a national ticket be that the Democrats might/would lose his Senate seat, given that Ohio’s gov is the odious Kasich? Does Ohio have a special-election rule for Senate vacancies, or does the replacement serve out the full term?

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ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:24:24am

Heh. Doing a bit of digging on Sherrod Brown and came across an article dishing the dirt on him from when he was running for the Senate against Josh Mandel.

Found this interesting, as it goes to what I just posted about him being a good liberal for Hillary to add to the ticket as her running mate.

The National Journal ranks Brown as the most liberal Senator, which puts him to the left of self-described socialist Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. (On this ideological spectrum, he replaced then-Senator Barack Obama, who was ranked the most liberal in 2007.) amazon.com is still selling copies of his 2004 book, The Myths of Free Trade: Why American Trade Policy Has Failed, which is a 240-page assault on economic liberalism and trade agreements.

And this is a fun bit…from his first run as a State Rep.

The year was 1974. Ohio House Speaker Verne Riffe, a self-described country boy and a master of pragmatic politics in southern Ohio, met with a 21-year old Sherrod Brown about becoming the Democratic candidate for the Mansfield-area. Brown was selected by Richland County Party chairman Donald Kindt, who noticed his talents as a volunteer for George McGovern’s presidential campaign in the summer of 1972.

At the time, Brown was not quite finished with his senior year in the Russian studies program at Yale. With his messy hair, a scratchy voice (It sounds as if he is continuously gargling saltwater) and hard-left views, Riffe was less than impressed.

According to the Cleveland Scene, after their meeting, Riffe angrily called Kindt and screamed, “Where the hell did you get that goddamn hippie sonuvabitch? Is that the best we’ve got?”

However, since Brown went onto became the youngest member of the Ohio legislature, defeated Dennis Kucinich in a 4-way primary to become Ohio Secretary of State, was elected to 6 terms to the U.S. House, and now serves as the state’s senior Senator—It is clear the answer to Riffe’s question for Ohio Democrats is an unequivocal “Yes.”

Here is a link for the rest of the article if anyone is interested. It also covers his first wife and their divorce which was a hot campaign issue of course.

I’m unfamiliar with this site…it appears to be quite conservative.

United Liberty - Buckeye Senate Battleground: The Radical vs. The Marine

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:25:06am

re: #37 ObserverArt

Morning!

Heard some interesting Democratic election news this morning on local Columbus NBC. They were talking about Tuesday’s primaries and that Hillary was ahead in all the polls. Then they mentioned Hillary is already preparing for the general election and thinking of VP running mates.

They mentioned two we’ve all heard discussed; Tim Kaine and Julian Castro.

And then I realized why Columbus media was spending time talking about Clinton running mates. The third name is Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown. That’d be cool. I’ve known and followed him from his first political run as an Ohio state representative in 1974. And he is a home town boy.

And Brown has deep liberal cred and he too is a big bank fighter…so Hillary could use him as her own Glass-Steagall Act rebuilder type. Take that!

Brown would be a good choice. In fact, as much as I like Kaine, Brown may be even better. I’m still partial to Castro though.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:25:18am

re: #31 b.d.

Let the people decide! A debate in Austin about renaming Robert E. Lee Elementary School and what they should change it to.

[Embedded content]

Good morning Lizards.

Don’t forget “Donald J. Trump Elementary”…

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ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:27:34am

re: #42 Jay C

Wouldn’t a major downside to Sherrod Brown (PS: IMO, an excellent candidate!) running on a national ticket be that the Democrats might/would lose his Senate seat, given that Ohio’s gov is the odious Kasich? Does Ohio have a special-election rule for Senate vacancies, or does the replacement serve out the full term?

Good question. I really don’t know the answer. I sure would hope Ohioans would elect another Democrat Senator should Brown become VP. We do seem to keep a balance going between Northern Ohio wanting A Dem and southern Ohio going with a Repub.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:32:56am

I think Clinton will find someone good though. Her ambition is constantly used against her but I think she’s ready for this in a way that Sanders, Trump, Cruz, and Kasich aren’t even close to being ready.

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ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:33:03am

re: #42 Jay C

Wouldn’t a major downside to Sherrod Brown (PS: IMO, an excellent candidate!) running on a national ticket be that the Democrats might/would lose his Senate seat, given that Ohio’s gov is the odious Kasich? Does Ohio have a special-election rule for Senate vacancies, or does the replacement serve out the full term?

From what I can find, it looks like the Senate vacancy is a gubernatorial appointment until the next election cycle.

Yuck. That would mean Johnny Kasich would have the replacement job. Not good.

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Jay C  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:33:37am

re: #46 ObserverArt

OK, a brief wiki-trek showed me that Ohio has had special elections in the past for Senators, but none recently enough to be relevant (1929). I also see that the state’s other Senate seat is up this year, Strickland v. Portman. Hopefully that might turn and mitigate a possible loss of Brown….

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:34:18am

Person with rifle fires on students leaving a high school prom in Antigo, WI, injuring three. A police officer “ended the threat.” Few details in this report from AP.

yahoo.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:35:39am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

I think Clinton will find someone good though. Her ambition is constantly used against her but I think she’s ready for this in a way that Sanders, Trump, Cruz, and Kasich aren’t even close to being ready.

She also has the advantage of having run for president before. Surely, she gave some thought to this question back in 2008.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:37:51am

re: #51 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

She also has the advantage of having run for president before. Surely, she gave some thought to this question back in 2008.

Yep. I think even without that though, she’s more prepared than any of the others.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:40:26am

re: #52 HappyWarrior

Yep. I think even without that though, she’s more prepared than any of the others.

She knows stuff. And people.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:40:36am

re: #37 ObserverArt

Morning!

Heard some interesting Democratic election news this morning on local Columbus NBC. They were talking about Tuesday’s primaries and that Hillary was ahead in all the polls. Then they mentioned Hillary is already preparing for the general election and thinking of VP running mates.

They mentioned two we’ve all heard discussed; Tim Kaine and Julian Castro.

And then I realized why Columbus media was spending time talking about Clinton running mates. The third name is Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown. That’d be cool. I’ve known and followed him from his first political run as an Ohio state representative in 1974. And he is a home town boy.

And Brown has deep liberal cred and he too is a big bank fighter…so Hillary could use him as her own Glass-Steagall Act rebuilder type. Take that!

The problem with Brown from a party perspective is that if he were to run with Hillary and they won, then John Kaisch would choose his replacement. That would make it significantly harder for the Democrats to retake the Senate.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:42:07am

I am on record of liking Castro and here’s why. I think he provides some executive experience as mayor of a large city, some Washington experience as an administrator of a cabinet department, and he’s also young and I think can appeal to Hispanic voters. I am really glad that he’s being vetted.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:43:26am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

I am on record of liking Castro and here’s why. I think he provides some executive experience as mayor of a large city, some Washington experience as an administrator of a cabinet department, and he’s also young and I think can appeal to Hispanic voters. I am really glad that he’s being vetted.

I’d be very happy with Castro as a VP. It could set the stage for his running as president later on.

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Alyosha  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:43:32am

If the GOP were smart, Trump would nominate an establishment VP and then the RNC would leak a terrible medical report of a serious Trump heart condition to the press just before the election.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:44:40am

re: #50 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Person with rifle fires on students leaving a high school prom in Antigo, WI, injuring three. A police officer “ended the threat.” Few details in this report from AP.

yahoo.com

There won’t be many details. The only person dead is the shooter, and so I don’t think the incident will get much press.

And honestly, its best if it didn’t. It should minor reports outside of the local area and in those reports the shooter should not be named. No details of his life should be discussed other than a simple stating of likely motive, and then his corpse should either be cremated or anonymously buried. It’s best the dirtbag be forgotten.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:44:54am

re: #57 Alyosha

If the GOP were smart, Trump would nominate an establishment VP and then the RNC would leak a terrible medical report of a serious Trump heart condition to the press just before the election.

Impossible! His doctor says only kryptonite can affect The Donald!
//

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:46:08am

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

It’s not clear the shooter is dead. He may be the third person wounded. Two were students.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:47:41am

re: #57 Alyosha

If the GOP were smart, Trump would nominate an establishment VP and then the RNC would leak a terrible medical report of a serious Trump heart condition to the press just before the election.

Trump would never allow that last. Not even in comedy world.

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ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:48:21am

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

The problem with Brown from a party perspective is that if he were to run with Hillary and they won, then John Kaisch would choose his replacement. That would make it significantly harder for the Democrats to retake the Senate.

Not really. Ohio has a pretty good history of Democratic Senators at the same time as a Republican in the other seat. Remember John Glenn and Howard Metzenbaum.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:48:26am

re: #60 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s not clear the shooter is dead. He may be the third person wounded. Two were students.

Other reports said police had shot the shooter dead.

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:48:34am

re: #37 ObserverArt

Morning!

Heard some interesting Democratic election news this morning on local Columbus NBC. They were talking about Tuesday’s primaries and that Hillary was ahead in all the polls. Then they mentioned Hillary is already preparing for the general election and thinking of VP running mates.

They mentioned two we’ve all heard discussed; Tim Kaine and Julian Castro.

And then I realized why Columbus media was spending time talking about Clinton running mates. The third name is Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown. That’d be cool. I’ve known and followed him from his first political run as an Ohio state representative in 1974. And he is a home town boy.

And Brown has deep liberal cred and he too is a big bank fighter…so Hillary could use him as her own Glass-Steagall Act rebuilder type. Take that!

I dearly love Sherrod Brown (and how cool would Connie be as the Second Lady—is that what they call the Veep’s spouse?) but that would mean that Rotten Johnny gets to pick a senator to take his seat and that would be awful.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:49:02am

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

There won’t be many details. The only person dead is the shooter, and so I don’t think the incident will get much press.

And honestly, its best if it didn’t. It should minor reports outside of the local area and in those reports the shooter should not be named. No details of his life should be discussed other than a simple stating of likely motive, and then his corpse should either be cremated or anonymously buried. It’s best the dirtbag be forgotten.

Admire the motives, but there are plenty of people who want to keep shooting news under wraps for other reasons…

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:50:31am

re: #62 ObserverArt

Not really. Ohio has a pretty good history of Democratic Senators at the same time as a Republican in the other seat. Remember John Glenn and Howard Metzenbaum.

Yes, really. Irrespective of the electoral fate of Sen. Portman, if Gov. Kaisch gets to appoint a replacement for Sherrod Brown, that replacement would be a Republican. It’s a pure numbers game in terms of who controls the Senate.

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Archangelus  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:51:06am

re: #57 Alyosha

If the GOP were smart

I think I just discovered the unrealistic part of that scenario…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:51:44am

re: #67 Archangelus

I think I just discovered the unrealistic part of that scenario…

Facts not in evidence.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:55:53am

re: #68 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Facts not in evidence.

GOP has made its bed as the Party of Stupid and its only choice is which side of the bed it can lie on

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Decatur Deb  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:57:08am

Daughter2 (mother of the 5 yr old Civ4 fanatic) pointed to this very cool device:

3D printed sundial displays the time digitally

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:57:21am

re: #64 BeachDem

I dearly love Sherrod Brown (and how cool would Connie be as the Second Lady—is that what they call the Veep’s spouse?) but that would mean that Rotten Johnny gets to pick a senator to take his seat and that would be awful.

No, it wouldn’t be awful. Kaisch wouldn’t pick some crazy teabagger, he’d pick someone within the political mainstream.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:58:51am

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

No, it wouldn’t be awful. Kaisch wouldn’t pick some crazy teabagger, he’d pick someone within the political mainstream.

The choice would still be a Republican…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 7:59:53am

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The choice would still be a Republican…

And BeachDem is still a Dem as are most people here so of course we’d prefer that Kasich not get the pick.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:00:42am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

And BeachDem is still a Dem as are most people here so of course we’d prefer that Kasich not get the pick.

Shouldn’t Kasich hold off on the nomination as it is an election year or something?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:01:03am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Shouldn’t Kasich hold off on the nomination as it is an election year or something?

Snap :).

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:02:51am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

And BeachDem is still a Dem as are most people here so of course we’d prefer that Kasich not get the pick.

There’s a difference between what we’d prefer and what would be ‘awful’. Ultimately, both parties need to recover a sense of what they can be OK with from members of the other party. Simply shouting “Democrats mean DOOM!!1” is counterproductive and paranoia inducing.

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gwangung  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:03:15am

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

No, it wouldn’t be awful. Kaisch wouldn’t pick some crazy teabagger, he’d pick someone within the political mainstream.

I.e., political teabagger.

You REALLY ought to pay attention to your party.

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ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:03:54am

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

Yes, really. Irrespective of the electoral fate of Sen. Portman, if Gov. Kaisch gets to appoint a replacement for Sherrod Brown, that replacement would be a Republican. It’s a pure numbers game in terms of who controls the Senate.

I know that, and I already acknowledged it. It would only be to fill out the remaining term. That is not a guarantee that Republican would win the seat in the next election cycle. That is what I am talking about.

You should know that Ohio is far from a red state. We do a good job of keeping a balance. If we had a stronger Democratic State organization we would probably be a bit more Blue than Red.

And, the state is changing. The parts of Ohio that always lean Republican are being changed by the fact that a lot of small town, farm communities and poor Appalachia areas are disappearing as the larger metro areas growing bigger and bigger.

I can speak for Columbus. This city is booming and taking in a lot of rural Ohio youth. Once in the big city their thinking changes. The GOP will face tougher and tougher times in this state.

And of course you know Ohio had a lot to do with electing Obama. And Kasich knows it.

Kasich would be smart to put a centrist Dem in an empty seat politically. And he is John Kasich…you just never know. A move like that would actually help him and his party in my opinion. He always claims he can work with this state’s Democrats. Piss off Columbus, Cleveland, Akron and Toledo any further than he has and it could cost the GOP in the future.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:04:00am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Shouldn’t Kasich hold off on the nomination as it is an election year or something?

His office not up for election this year, so no. :P

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stpaulbear  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:04:27am

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

The problem with Brown from a party perspective is that if he were to run with Hillary and they won, then John Kaisch would choose his replacement. That would make it significantly harder for the Democrats to retake the Senate.

Kasich could do like Governor Wendell Anderson did when Hubert Humphrey passed away in 1978 - resign as governor and then have the new governor (crazy Rudy Perpich) appoint him as senator. That boneheaded move cost both of them the next election later that year.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:06:15am

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

There’s a difference between what we’d prefer and what would be ‘awful’. Ultimately, both parties need to recover a sense of what they can be OK with from members of the other party. Simply shouting “Democrats mean DOOM!!1” is counterproductive and paranoia inducing.

Saying that Kasich would make an awful choice is perfectly legit. I mean come on man I know you’re literal but I think it’s pretty clear that she meant awful politically(Kind of like how your party views even the moderate Merrick Garland to replace the very right wing Scalia as awful) and BD/Art know Kasich a lot better than you or I do.

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stpaulbear  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:08:54am

re: #57 Alyosha

If the GOP were smart, Trump would nominate an establishment VP and then the RNC would leak a terrible medical report of a serious Trump heart condition to the press just before the election.

Trump has to choose someone even more toxic that himself so that the legislative branch has to think twice before starting impeachment proceedings.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:08:56am

re: #78 ObserverArt

I know that, and I already acknowledged it. It would only be to fill out the remaining term. That is not a guarantee that Republican would win the seat in the next election cycle. That is what I am talking about.

You should know that Ohio is far from a red state. We do a good job of keeping a balance. If we had a stronger Democratic State organization we would probably be a bit more Blue than Red.

And, the state is changing. The parts of Ohio that always lean Republican are being changed by the fact that a lot of small town, farm communities and poor Appalachia areas are disappearing as the larger metro areas growing bigger and bigger.

I can speak for Columbus. This city is booming and taking in a lot of rural Ohio youth. Once in the big city their thinking changes. The GOP will face tougher and tougher times in this state.

And of course you know Ohio had a lot to do with electing Obama. And Kasich knows it.

Kasich would be smart to put a centrist Dem in an empty seat politically. And he is John Kasich…you just never know. A move like that would actually help him and his party in my opinion. He always claims he can work with this state’s Democrats. Piss off Columbus, Cleveland, Akron and Toledo any further than he has and it could cost the GOP in the future.

No, that wouldn’t be smart. He’d be branded a RINO and effectively read out of the party. A Republican centrist could work, but not a Democrat.

I do agree that Ohio Republicans and Republicans more generally need to be better at creating conservative policies that can work in a city, which will mean not being phobic about commuter rail among other things.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:09:55am

re: #34 b.d.

I’ll never understand how things got named after the losers in the first place?

Heritage

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:10:35am

re: #82 stpaulbear

Trump has to choose someone even more toxic that himself so that the legislative branch has to think twice before starting impeachment proceedings.

Vice President Paladino. And yes I’m aware that they’re both New Yorkers.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:11:38am

re: #83 Dark_Falcon

No, that wouldn’t be smart. He’d be branded a RINO and effectively read out of the party. A Republican centrist could work, but not a Democrat.

I do agree that Ohio Republicans and Republicans more generally need to be better at creating conservative policies that can work in a city, which will mean not being phobic about commuter rail among other things.

I really don’t understand the reflexive disgust the GOP has for commuter rail, or mass transit in general. Walker killed a high speed rail proposal, IIRC. Moving people around cheaply and efficiently is good for business. It’s not just for poor people, after all.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:12:48am

re: #86 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I really don’t understand the reflexive disgust the GOP has for commuter rail, or mass transit in general. Walker killed a high speed rail proposal, IIRC. Moving people around cheaply and efficiently is good for business. It’s not just for poor people, after all.

Yeah I just don’t get that. Mass transit cuts down on traffic. It’s so much easier to get around D.C by Metro than it is with a car. The parking fees alone.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:13:00am

With that thought, I’m turning in semi-early (for me) tonight. See everyone later on!

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ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:14:57am

re: #83 Dark_Falcon

No, that wouldn’t be smart. He’d be branded a RINO and effectively read out of the party. A Republican centrist could work, but not a Democrat.

I do agree that Ohio Republicans and Republicans more generally need to be better at creating conservative policies that can work in a city, which will mean not being phobic about commuter rail among other things.

You really have a Republican blind spot in your thinking.

And you have not learned enough about one John Kasich. He is the last guy that would worry about being a RINO. I guess you don’t remember his allowing expanded medicaid. That pissed off a lot of the state and national GOP. There have been other lesser examples. Once he took heat over killing public unions he changed course to keep his butt in his seat.

John Kasich is John Kasich . He is his own asshole.

Try to keep up! : )

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:19:31am

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Vice President Paladino. And yes I’m aware that they’re both New Yorkers.

That wouldn’t work, since Paladino wouldn’t last till election day. The man actually is a combat veteran, and listening to Trump expound on his prep school as being like combat and his misunderstanding of the military generally would make Paladino’s head explode.

//sorta I don’t see Donald Trump being able to campaign with a combat veteran unless Trump was able to defer to him in at least small ways.

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:19:38am

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

No, it wouldn’t be awful. Kaisch wouldn’t pick some crazy teabagger, he’d pick someone within the political mainstream.

And you know this how? Look at some of the people Kasich has appointed to various positions in Ohio (and some of them he appointed to boards, then made the boards private and non-accountable) and get back to me. Look up the “Jobs Ohio” history.

Mark Kvamme was Kasich’s first pick to lead to Ohio Department of Development. But it was soon revealed that Kvamme was constitutionally ineligible to serve in that role, so Assistant Director Kristi Tanner ended up signing all the documents to prevent any problems when Kvamme eventually left.

Kvamme was replaced by James Leftwich, who lasted a whole 106 days before being replaced by Christiane Schmenk.

Kvamme took over at head of JobsOhio and Leftwich was hired back as a consultant for Kasich. Both quit their jobs the same week we reported that Leftwich was effectively selling access to Third Frontier and JobsOhio through his new consulting company.

plunderbund.com

His freaking chief of staff is married to the guy (who he also appointed) who fabricated data on charter schools.

plunderbund.com

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:21:28am

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

That wouldn’t work, since Paladino wouldn’t last till election day. The man actually is a combat veteran, and listening to Trump expound on his prep school as being like combat and his misunderstanding of the military generally would make Paladino’s head explode.

//sorta I don’t see Donald Trump being able to campaign with a combat veteran unless Trump was able to defer to him in at least small ways.

Paladino has associated himself with Trump and I think it was pretty obvious I was joking.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:22:24am

re: #91 BeachDem

And you know this how? Look at some of the people Kasich has appointed to various positions in Ohio (and some of them he appointed to boards, then made the boards private and non-accountable) and get back to me. Look up the “Jobs Ohio” history.

Mark Kvamme was Kasich’s first pick to lead to Ohio Department of Development. But it was soon revealed that Kvamme was constitutionally ineligible to serve in that role, so Assistant Director Kristi Tanner ended up signing all the documents to prevent any problems when Kvamme eventually left.

Kvamme was replaced by James Leftwich, who lasted a whole 106 days before being replaced by Christiane Schmenk.

Kvamme took over at head of JobsOhio and Leftwich was hired back as a consultant for Kasich. Both quit their jobs the same week we reported that Leftwich was effectively selling access to Third Frontier and JobsOhio through his new consulting company.

plunderbund.com

His freaking chief of staff is married to the guy (who he also appointed) who fabricated data on charter schools.

plunderbund.com

As I said, he should be listening to you and Art since you guys know him best. You know about things like this.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:24:38am

wgrz.com
So yeah DF, I think Paladino doesn’t mind being associated with Trump and doesn’t find his likening his prep school antics to military service to be bullshit. Paladino may be a veteran but assholes of a certain feather fly together.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:28:12am

re: #57 Alyosha

If the GOP were smart, Trump would nominate an establishment VP and then the RNC would leak a terrible medical report of a serious Trump heart condition to the press just before the election.

But he has the best blood pressure!

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sagehen  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:28:33am

re: #70 Decatur Deb

Daughter2 (mother of the 5 yr old Civ4 fanatic) pointed to this very cool device:

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my favorite sundial:

apod.nasa.gov

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:29:41am

re: #95 Stanley Sea

But he has the best blood pressure!

More healthy than any president ever and certified in good health by Dr. Nick Rivera.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:35:25am

no words for how awful this is:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:37:27am

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

no words for how awful this is:

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That’s supposed to sell people? Listen, Wall Street needs to be regulated and if the people there break the law, they need to be treated like criminals. That’s definitely a legitimate issue but this photoshop makes a fucking mockery of the issue and Hartmann should know that.

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weave  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:41:19am

Bookmark this one folks — for when Kasich is picked to be the nominee in a contested convention… It’ll be sweet to watch them cry salty tears… For some reason they are convinced Cruz will win this.

Redstate: Here’s Why John Kasich is the Dumbest Man in America

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:49:27am

re: #100 weave

Bookmark this one folks — for when Kasich is picked to be the nominee in a contested convention… It’ll be sweet to watch them cry salty tears… For some reason they are convinced Cruz will win this.

Redstate: Here’s Why John Kasich is the Dumbest Man in America

They think it because Cruz’s organization is making sure the convention is packed with pro-Cruz delegates and there is almost no support for Kasich. Beltway Republicans may loathe Cruz, but he’s a hero in the hinterlands.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:54:55am

re: #101 Big Beautiful Door

They think it because Cruz’s organization is making sure the convention is packed with pro-Cruz delegates and there is almost no support for Kasich. Beltway Republicans may loathe Cruz, but he’s a hero in the hinterlands.

Whereas beltway Republican are reviled nearly everywhere…

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Dave In Austin  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:55:25am
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Great White Snark  Apr 24, 2016 • 8:59:11am

re: #70 Decatur Deb

That’s pretty cool. Love to get that 3dm file. Jealous of those who can print the item and call it done. I’m in 3d printing (that gets burned out and cast) up to my ears these days. A good friend and colleague just did a white paper on what exactly it is in certain printed models that wreaks such havoc on the plaster when it’s burned out for lost “wax” (resin?) casting. Apparently the stuff puts off a powerful acid as it heats.

Roughly half of all bridal rings now are custom designed by or with the customer.

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ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:05:00am

re: #100 weave

Bookmark this one folks — for when Kasich is picked to be the nominee in a contested convention… It’ll be sweet to watch them cry salty tears… For some reason they are convinced Cruz will win this.

Redstate: Here’s Why John Kasich is the Dumbest Man in America

Another fine example of Kasich being Kasich. He will do what is best for John Kasich. And he will do what John Kasich thinks is best for the Republican party.

He is one arrogant SOB and he probably looks at Trump, Cruz and Priebus as complete lightweights who do not have the political experience and savvy he has and they all should be listening to him.

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Jenner7  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:05:40am

Um, what now?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:06:12am

re: #106 Jenner7

Sanders: Democratic Party hasn’t been fair to me

then you should have run as an Independent…

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ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:10:29am

re: #106 Jenner7

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Um, what now?

I think he said on MTP today that he was fine with his treatment by the party.

Who knows any more. I think Bernie is all confused these days and listens to too many of his handlers and supporters.

One thing I noticed on MTP when Chucky Todd interviewed him…his eyes shifted right to left the whole time and hardly ever went to straight on to his interviewer.

I don’t know if that is a tell…but it sure looked shifty at the very least.

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stpaulbear  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:12:20am

re: #108 ObserverArt

I think he said on MTP today that he was fine with his treatment by the party.

Who knows any more. I think Bernie is all confused these days and listens to too many of his handlers and supporters.

One thing I noticed on MTP when Chucky Todd interview him…his eyes shifted right to left the whole time and hardly ever went to straight on to his interviewer.

I don’t know if that is a tell…but it sure looked shifty at the very least.

Was that the interview where he said that poor people don’t vote?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:14:21am
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ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:16:29am

re: #109 stpaulbear

Was that the interview where he said that poor people don’t vote?

Yes. And Todd’s panel ripped on that by saying it is another of Bernie’s excuses.

Joy Reid was pretty sharp with her response basically saying if your whole message is about economics and how it has affected middle class on down and those people are not coming out to vote for you then you have issues and maybe do not speak for them like you thought you do. Ouch.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:22:01am

re: #34 b.d.

I’ll never understand how things got named after the losers in the first place?

It’s the South’s Participation Trophy for the Civil War. Don’t want to crush their self esteem, you know.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:27:22am

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m curious what the point of attacking Hillary for Bill’s philandering is. Hillary’s insufficiently supportive of women who blow her husband? Hillary’s insufficiently outraged that her husband let other women blow him?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:30:04am

re: #113 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m curious what the point of attacking Hillary for Bill’s philandering is. Hillary’s insufficiently supportive of women who blow her husband? Hillary’s insufficiently outraged that her husband let other women blow him?

anything that can be seen as negative relating to Hillary is seen as fair game

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Jay C  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:35:55am

re: #113 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m curious what the point of attacking Hillary for Bill’s philandering is. Hillary’s insufficiently supportive of women who blow her husband? Hillary’s insufficiently outraged that her husband let other women blow him?

The point? Clinton-bashing. Any Clinton, any excuse. However popular Bill might have been at the end of his term, It would be political malpractice to let any residual negatives - even decades-old ones - go unexploited just in case there are any waverers out there needing some “rationale” to vote against Hillary.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:37:30am

re: #111 ObserverArt

Yes. And Todd’s panel ripped on that by saying it is another of Bernie’s excuses.

Joy Reid was pretty sharp with her response basically saying if your whole message is about economics and how it has affected middle class on down and those people are not coming out to vote for you then you have issues and maybe do not speak for them like you thought you do. Ouch.

It’s a very true point. Honestly, I don’t think he’s as inspirational as he and his supporters think he is. To be frank, he’s a bit of a downer and people don’t like that in presidential candidates.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:39:29am

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

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To be honest, I was always bothered by the idea of Lewinsky as a victim of Clinton. I get that she was young but she chose to have an adulterous affair with him and if I recall, she had an affair with one of her professors in college too so Bill wasn’t the first married man she had slept with. This is more of the Sanders campaign crap that I don’t like. I really dislike their acting like they’re above the fray when they’re just as willing to play negative as they say the Clintons are.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:43:07am

re: #117 HappyWarrior

To be honest, I was always bothered by the idea of Lewinsky as a victim of Clinton. I get that she was young but she chose to have an adulterous affair with him and if I recall, she had an affair with one of her professors in college too so Bill wasn’t the first married man she had slept with. This is more of the Sanders campaign crap that I don’t like. I really dislike their acting like they’re above the fray when they’re just as willing to play negative as they say the Clintons are.

There was a story about her telling friends, when she went to Washington to take the intern job, that she was off to earn her Presidential kneepads. She went into it with open…eyes. She was no innocent to be seduced. Doesn’t make his infidelity right, but it’s important to put it in context.

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:44:01am

re: #111 ObserverArt

Yes. And Todd’s panel ripped on that by saying it is another of Bernie’s excuses.

Joy Reid was pretty sharp with her response basically saying if your whole message is about economics and how it has affected middle class on down and those people are not coming out to vote for you then you have issues and maybe do not speak for them like you thought you do. Ouch.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:47:01am

re: #111 ObserverArt

Yes. And Todd’s panel ripped on that by saying it is another of Bernie’s excuses.

Joy Reid was pretty sharp with her response basically saying if your whole message is about economics and how it has affected middle class on down and those people are not coming out to vote for you then you have issues and maybe do not speak for them like you thought you do. Ouch.

Well, clearly, the Blacks Latinos Poors are stuck on the Democratic Establishment’s plantation barrio slum.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:48:09am

re: #119 BeachDem

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Yeah but I keep on getting told that Bernie is the people’s choice. Really because usually people’s choices actually win diverse groups of people. Bernie doesn’t know coalition from the word compromise. They can blame the DNC all they want but the fact of the matter is Bernie’s failings lay squarely on Bernie for not doing a better job building up a coalition and being unable to speak about issues in a way that shows he understands their nuance. Doesn’t help that he’s shown that he doesn’t understand FP that well either outside of just using his Iraq War Resolution vote as somehow proof he understands FP better.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:49:12am

re: #118 Blind Frog Belly White

There was a story about her telling friends, when she went to Washington to take the intern job, that she was off to earn her Presidential kneepads. She went into it with open…eyes. She was no innocent to be seduced. Doesn’t make his infidelity right, but it’s important to put it in context.

Never heard about that. I mean obviously President Clinton acted improperly but in the end, it was a consensual affair between two adults and the only three people that should have been involved with it were Bill, Hillary, and Monica.

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Great White Snark  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:52:24am

re: #121 HappyWarrior

Yeah but I keep on getting told that Bernie is the people’s choice.

“The people”. LOL. The people other than those that stayed home, or voted for any of the other candidates. Or the people that can’t vote yet as independents. But yeah, the people.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:56:53am

Hmm…
I wonder who might focus on this between now and Tuesday?

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 24, 2016 • 9:58:15am

It’s been a banner weekend for the NRA…

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:00:00am

re: #125 FormerDirtDart

It’s been a banner weekend for the NRA…

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Probably a gun free zone.//

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ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:09:48am

re: #124 FormerDirtDart

Hmm…
I wonder who might focus on this between now and Tuesday?

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I think your answer already lies with the person that tweeted it. He is very pro Bernie.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:13:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:14:04am

re: #127 ObserverArt

I think your answer already lies with the person that tweeted it. He is very pro Bernie.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:17:42am

trumpf’s expensive new handler blows it on the first outing by making the story all about how his candidate’s fucked up behavior is just bullshit for the masses and he promises a smoother line of palaver soon

and then his candidate says “nah”

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:21:44am
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ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:22:01am

re: #130 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

trumpf’s expensive new handler blows it on the first outing by making the story all about how his candidate’s fucked up behavior is just bullshit for the masses and he promises a smoother line of palaver soon

and then his candidate says “nah”

I wonder if “handler” is the correct description for anyone trying to work with Trump???

Nobody handles The Trump!

Maybe mitigator.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:23:05am

re: #131 FormerDirtDart

Man is under arrest after he allegedly threatened to bomb Donald Trump’s campaign rally in Waterbury, Conn

blame it on all that negative coverage DT has been getting from the liberally biased media…

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:23:28am

re: #127 ObserverArt

I think your answer already lies with the person that tweeted it. He is very pro Bernie.

Howard Dean brought up a good point today. The Koch brothers are libertarians and believe business should be able to do what they want. By contrast, Trump and Cruz are both authoritarians. Hence, those two would more likely screw with their bottom line rather than the Dems.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:25:58am

re: #134 Dr. Matt

Howard Dean brought up a good point today. The Koch brothers are libertarians and believe business should be able to do what they want. By contrast, Trump and Cruz are both authoritarians. Hence, those two would more likely screw with their bottom line rather than the Dems.

The Koch brothers are aware that they cannot continue to profit from their businesses if America is in a total tailspin, both in its domestic economy and with its foreign trade and policies.

And they have no illusions about what the outcome of a Trump or Cruz Presidency would look like.

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CleverToad  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:29:26am

re: #124 FormerDirtDart

Hmm…
I wonder who might focus on this between now and Tuesday?

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re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Rodent pornography at its most blatant, and Reich bloody well knows it. Will be depressing to watch how many other rabid Berners will swallow this hook.

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:31:51am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

It’s a very true point. Honestly, I don’t think he’s as inspirational as he and his supporters think he is. To be frank, he’s a bit of a downer and people don’t like that in presidential candidates.

I’ve been saying that for more than a year. I’ve seen him speak twice, in smaller venues than the rallies from after he caught fire, and I thought that while what he said was true, it was depressing and not inspiring. He points out problems, re: #121 HappyWarrior

Yeah but I keep on getting told that Bernie is the people’s choice. Really because usually people’s choices actually win diverse groups of people. Bernie doesn’t know coalition from the word compromise. They can blame the DNC all they want but the fact of the matter is Bernie’s failings lay squarely on Bernie for not doing a better job building up a coalition and being unable to speak about issues in a way that shows he understands their nuance. Doesn’t help that he’s shown that he doesn’t understand FP that well either outside of just using his Iraq War Resolution vote as somehow proof he understands FP better.

I finally unsubscribed to Bernie emails today—they were just getting ridiculous and coming fast and furiously. Even on the unsubscribe acknowledgement page there is a DONATE request.

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Jenner7  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:32:20am

Ugh and sigh……

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:33:16am

re: #137 BeachDem

I’ve been saying that for more than a year. I’ve seen him speak twice, in smaller venues than the rallies from after he caught fire, and I thought that while what he said was true, it was depressing and not inspiring. He points out problems,

I finally unsubscribed to Bernie emails today—they were just getting ridiculous and coming fast and furiously. Even on the unsubscribe acknowledgement page there is a DONATE request.

Yes, you have and you were right.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:34:44am

re: #138 Jenner7

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Ugh and sigh……

Very shortsighted. McConnell’s an asshole but if Bernie actually read his history, he’d see that the New Deal and Great Society got passed not due to millions mobilizing but because of legislative kung fu that Bernie has no idea about.

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BeachDem  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:35:38am

re: #139 HappyWarrior

Yes, you have and you were right.

I had more to say (of course) but my power went out in between comments and when it came back, they piled together—but they were kind of on the same subject so…

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Dr. Matt  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:37:15am

re: #138 Jenner7

Ugh and sigh……

Well, if “principled” democratic voters didn’t sit home during the midterm elections, Democratic Politicians wouldn’t have to sit down with Mitch McConnell. Until Democrats stop acting pissed off for not getting a pony and start voting more, unfortunately Mitch McConnell et al. is what we have to face.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:38:22am

It’s not that mobilization and protests don’t work. I am fine with them but I’ve got a bone with Bernie thinking that you can just ignore the other party in Congress. Frankly, Bernie’s insulting the voters intelligence by acting like it’s that simple.

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ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:38:22am

Bernie is doing a fine job proving why he would never make a good president.

I know he has convinced me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:38:33am

re: #142 Dr. Matt

Well, if “principled” democratic voters didn’t sit home during the midterm elections, Democratic Politicians wouldn’t have to sit down with Mitch McConnell. Until Democrats stop acting pissed off for not getting a pony and start voting more, unfortunately Mitch McConnell et al. is what we have to face.

And with so many of our electoral districts gerrymandered to guarantee a GOP house majority no matter how the votes are cast per party, we are gonna have to deal with Mitch or his successor for some time to come…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:39:12am

re: #144 ObserverArt

Bernie is doing a fine job proving why he would never make a good president.

I know he has convinced me.

It amazes me that someone who has been in Congress so long is so clueless to its importance.

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jaunte  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:42:36am

re: #132 ObserverArt

Maybe mitigator.

Enabler/clean-up crew/Mr. Wolf.

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Lidane  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:44:05am

ICYMI:

Facebook Post

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ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:44:26am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

It amazes me that someone who has been in Congress so long is so clueless to its importance.

I followed Jenner7’s Bernie tweet to his tweet homepage. His little statement…

Sen. Bernie Sanders is the longest serving independent in congressional history. Tweets ending in -B are from Bernie, and all others are from a staffer.

Uh huh. So independent as to be out of touch with the reality of politics.

Time to get something accomplished today. Later!

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Belafon  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:47:54am

re: #138 Jenner7

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Ugh and sigh……

We all remember how millions of people got gun legislation passed after Sandy Hook.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:48:00am

re: #138 Jenner7

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HappyWarrior  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:52:20am

re: #149 ObserverArt

I followed Jenner7’s Bernie tweet to his tweet homepage. His little statement…

Uh huh. So independent as to be out of touch with the reality of politics.

Time to get something accomplished today. Later!

It’s in large part I think because he represents a state with such an undiverse population but another part of is on him himself since I think he’s very set in stone with his views. Some consider that a virtue but I think it’s a terrible mindset if you’ve got the presidency on your mind.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 24, 2016 • 10:59:54am

re: #138 Jenner7

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Ugh and sigh……

“Politics is the art of the possible.” -Otto von Bismarck

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sagehen  Apr 24, 2016 • 11:05:13am

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

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When some activists at that meeting said they felt that their voices were not being heard, Mr. Obama replied, “You are sitting in the Oval Office, talking to the president of the United States.”

He’s got a point.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 24, 2016 • 11:29:48am

re: #138 Jenner7

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Ugh and sigh……

We’ve seen how a GOP Senate treated Obama and they will double down on the obstruction with Sanders. He won’t be able to fill any court vacancies. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a GOP Senate reject every nomination he makes.


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