David Duke Is Ecstatic About Trump’s “Star of David” Tweet: “We Welcome the Hidden Hand”

Trump’s Ku Klux Klan base couldn’t be happier
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Like many white supremacists, former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke noticed Donald Trump’s antisemitic tweet this weekend and reacted with great glee.

He wasn’t upset that Trump’s people replaced the Star of David with a circle, because he knows the Republican Party’s nominee for president is still getting their message out.

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gocart mozart  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:32:43pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:38:14pm
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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:40:31pm

But somehow, there are people who still say “both parties are the same… .”

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gocart mozart  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:40:36pm

Dr. Duke & Dr. MacDonald Expose the War on White People and Address Why We Support Trump Even Though He is Too Moderate!
JULY 1, 2016 AT 10:29 AM
Dr. Duke & Dr. MacDonald Expose the War on White People and Address Why We Support Trump Even Though He is Too Moderate!
Today Dr. Duke had Professor Kevin MacDonald as his guest for the hour. They talked about the literal war on white people in the United States. They talked about the hope offered by the Donald Trump campaign, but also about how he does not go far enough in many ways. Professor MacDonald explained that in the current climate, it is understandable that Trump would not raise certain issues, as it would just make his task more difficult. At the same time, he said that Trump has made some tactical mistakes, like making a big issue out of the Mexican judge, even though his position was correct.

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:42:22pm

Real American hero, Mr. Duke.

What’s that rag behind you in the photo? The Dixie Swastika? Symbol of a traitorous and failed rebellion?

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mmmirele  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:43:58pm
Sunday! Sunday! Sunday!

So for the last few months—since Easter, in fact, I’ve been spending some part of my Sunday mornings out in front of “The Trinity Church” in Scottsdale. This is the new home of manly man preacher Mark Driscoll, who managed to crater a multi-campus, multi-state church organization based out of Seattle less than two years ago by refusing to go under discipline from his elders. The House of Driscoll has not officially opened yet (that doesn’t happen until August 7), but he’s somehow managed to scrape together the money/cosigners/who knows what to buy the property in the picture behind me. That property has a Full Cash Value of $21 million dollars, per Maricopa County.

I said years ago before his Seattle gig crashed and burned that if the guy ended up in my neck of the woods, I’d be out on the sidewalk, and there I am. I try to keep my criticisms as secular as possible. Basically, it’s about the plagiarism and using church money to game the NYTimes bestseller list and the way he treated women in his old church, and where the heck did all the money go for the Global Fund and the Jesus Fest, etc., etc.

Yesterday I had a web acquaintance from Dubai via Tucson join me in picketing the House of Driscoll. He took a couple of pictures, and above is one of them. He went inside for the “Bible study” and later reported that there were only about 100 adults there and he could not record anything. I’m such an evil person, it warms the cockles of my cold, cold heart that Driscoll is not packing them in. I have to wonder how he expects to pay the mortgage.

Lots more info on Driscoll:
en.wikipedia.org

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gocart mozart  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:44:58pm

Wading through Duke’s twitter feed and I feel dirty. This is the last one.

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Jenner7  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:46:28pm
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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:46:49pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

He’s missing the part where we’re supposed to give a shit.

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:49:45pm

re: #9 thedopefishlives

He’s missing the part where we’re supposed to give a shit.

“Ethnic Armageddon?” I haven’t seen any roving bands of non-whites going around shooting or lynching people, but the reverse is certainly true of our nation.

I am a lot more afraid of a gun-nut than someone with more melanin than me.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:49:53pm

re: #6 mmmirele

You GO!

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NoSoapForYou  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:50:45pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

Wtf! Is he intending to replace the white drinking fountains with white semen fountains? Dafaq is wrong with this knucklehead?

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Kragar  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:54:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:57:48pm

As a non Hispanic white American but one with a Hispanic niece, David Duke can fuck off with his his bigoted bullshit. You are from the same school of people who tells white people they should “unite” while in Britain, you tell Poles to get out. It was people like YOU that justified the murders of millions of Slavs in Hitler’s Europe because they were “inferior.” So no Dave, fuck you and if what you see as “white genocide” means we’ll have fewer pathetic bigoted losers like you then I say good riddance to you.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 4, 2016 • 7:58:51pm

In which Donald Trump flat out refuses to condemn David Duke & the KKK

Donald Trump Tells Jake Tapper He Won’t Denounce David Duke or The KKK

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bratwurst  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:00:04pm

Among my very favorite Twitter follows:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:01:36pm

re: #15 The Vicious Babushka

In which Donald Trump flat out refuses to condemn David Duke & the KKK

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Video

He’s so full of shit.

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:01:38pm

re: #14 HappyWarrior

As a non Hispanic white American but one with a Hispanic niece, David Duke can fuck off with his his bigoted bullshit. You are from the same school of people who tells white people they should “unite” while in Britain, you tell Poles to get out. It was people like YOU that justified the murders of millions of Slavs in Hitler’s Europe because they were “inferior.” So no Dave, fuck you and if what you see as “white genocide” means we’ll have fewer pathetic bigoted losers like you then I say good riddance to you.

For a long time in the USA, we Poles were not treated as “white.” That said, we were still treated far better than African-Americans, Natives, or Latinos.

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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:02:03pm

I hate fucking fireworks. They’re blasting them off on three sides of me, and the fourth side is a warehouse building that bounces it all back at me. I hope they mostly quit after 11:00. There’s always at least one asshole who has to go out and blast something big every 15 minutes or so until 1:00 in the morning.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:02:10pm

re: #16 bratwurst

Among my very favorite Twitter follows:

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I really thought he would end up as the nominee.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:02:25pm

re: #18 Anymouse

For a long time in the USA, we Poles were not treated as “white.” That said, we were still treated far better than African-Americans, Natives, or Latinos.

Hell, for that matter, even the Irish - who are about as white as white can get! - had a rough go of it. For being a melting pot of cultures, we sure don’t seem to have a good history with integrating new ones.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:02:36pm

Beach Dem - I’m at Maple Street!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:03:17pm

re: #13 Kragar

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I think you would get a parallel service: Cold pies to kōhais.

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:03:33pm

re: #21 thedopefishlives

Hell, for that matter, even the Irish - who are about as white as white can get! - had a rough go of it. For being a melting pot of cultures, we sure don’t seem to have a good history with integrating new ones.

And Rep. Steve King of Iowa would still like me deported as the grandchild of “illegal Polish immigrants.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:03:47pm

re: #21 thedopefishlives

Hell, for that matter, even the Irish - who are about as white as white can get! - had a rough go of it. For being a melting pot of cultures, we sure don’t seem to have a good history with integrating new ones.

The sad thing is those groups eventually do integrate and then theri descendants who didn’t ive the racism engage in racism against the new comers.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:04:37pm

re: #24 Anymouse

And Rep. Steve King of Iowa would still like me deported as the grandchild of “illegal Polish immigrants.”

What a fuckface.

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mmmirele  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:05:38pm

re: #8 Jenner7

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Thanks for sharing that. I loved seeing Janelle Monae there. She is amazing. And Obama does a great job embarrassing the heck out of his 18 YO daughter.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:07:12pm

re: #24 Anymouse

And Rep. Steve King of Iowa would still like me deported as the grandchild of “illegal Polish immigrants.”

That just shows you how stupid King really is. The idiotic thing about DEPORT THEM ALL types just never think about is that many illegal aliens let alone children and grandchildren such as yourself are very well integrated into America. In fact, if you hadnt’ said so, I’d never know you had illegal alien grandparents. And hell I don’t even know if my mom’s paternal grandparents were legal or not. What King has is that usual right wing aura of entitlement. His family has been here long enough that he doesn’t have to worry about it but lots of others would.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:08:32pm

Just so it’s clear, I don’t think immigrants integrating is sad but when I see third or fourth generation Irish-Americans engage in the same bigotry towards Hispanics that our forefathers faced or Eastern European ones like one of my own cousins who had all immigrant grandparents embrace someone like Trump, it just makes me sick.

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:08:47pm

re: #26 thedopefishlives

What a fuckface.

I am not much of a fan of Representative King.

Rep. King on Mr. Trump: He is the GOP leader on immigration.

cnn.com

King is also trying to block putting Harriet Tubman on the $20:

cnn.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:09:47pm

re: #30 Anymouse

I am not much of a fan of Representative King.

Rep. King on Mr. Trump: He is the GOP leader on immigration.

cnn.com

King is also trying to block putting Harriet Tubman on the $20:

cnn.com

King is up there with Gohmert. Maybe even worse. Gohmert is bigoted too but more stupid.

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:11:30pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

That just shows you how stupid King really is. The idiotic thing about DEPORT THEM ALL types just never think about is that many illegal aliens let alone children and grandchildren such as yourself are very well integrated into America. In fact, if you hadnt’ said so, I’d never know you had illegal alien grandparents. And hell I don’t even know if my mom’s paternal grandparents were legal or not. What King has is that usual right wing aura of entitlement. His family has been here long enough that he doesn’t have to worry about it but lots of others would.

My grandparents fled the Nazis just before Germany invaded Poland. At the time, Slavs were prohibited from entering the USA. My grandfather then joined the US Army and went back to Europe to fight the Nazis as part of the American forces, where he was killed.

My grandmother meanwhile joined the WAC working stateside.

My father and mother both served in the US Navy; my father was killed in Vietnam when I was seven.

My sister and I were also in the military (she in the Army and me in the Navy).

But for Rep. King, we are just “anchor babies.”

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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:11:40pm

re: #13 Kragar

When I was at the U of MN in 1974, there was a student operated company called ‘Pie Kill Ltd’ for a very short but memorable time. You could hire them to hit people with a whipped cream pie. It was rumored that one of my architecture lecturers was on the kill list and, sure enough, one day while we were being lectured in Bell Auditorium, someone came around from behind the curtain, said ‘excuse me’, and blasted the guy in the face with a pie. The whole auditorium went silent except for two or three loud guffaws and the professor finally muttered through clenched teeth ‘Class dismissed’. A half dozen students went up to help him as the rest of us filed out in amazed silence. We laughed about it later because nobody liked the professor at all.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:11:44pm

Juno’s braking maneuver coming up soon. No sound on NASA’s UStream channel, but the YouTube feed is OK:

NASA JUNO: Mission To Jupiter Real Time Simulation :

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:12:11pm

I bet if you go back far enough in King’s family past, he’s a descendant of illegals too.

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bratwurst  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:13:26pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

I really thought he would end up as the nominee.

I thought he would be a STRONG contender…but in hindsight it is easy to see there was no “lane” for Walker. He was not enough of a lunatic to tempt anyone drawn to Trump or Carson, nor evangelical enough pull votes away from Cruz, nor mainstream enough for Bush or Kasich fans. It turns out that being famous for loving the Koch brothers and hating unions wasn’t anywhere close to sexy enough for 2016.

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TedStriker  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:14:29pm

re: #36 bratwurst

I thought he would be a STRONG contender…but in hindsight it is easy to see there was no “lane” for him. He was not enough of a lunatic to tempt anyone drawn to Trump or Carson, nor evangelical enough pull votes away from Cruz, nor mainstream enough for Bush or Kasich fans. It turns out that being famous for loving the Koch brothers and hating unions wasn’t anywhere close to sexy enough for 2016.

Ain’t that fucking scary?

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:14:38pm

re: #35 GlutenFreeJesus

I bet if you go back far enough in King’s family past, he’s a descendant of illegals too.

Perhaps a challenge from Elizabeth Warren for a DNA test? /s

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:14:41pm

re: #32 Anymouse

My grandparents fled the Nazis just before Germany invaded Poland. At the time, Slavs were prohibited from entering the USA. My grandfather then joined the US Army and went back to Europe to fight the Nazis as part of the American forces, where he was killed.

My grandmother meanwhile joined the WAC working stateside.

My father and mother both served in the US Navy; my father was killed in Vietnam when I was seven.

My sister and I were also in the military (she in the Army and me in the Navy).

But for Rep. King, we are just “anchor babies.”

My mom’s grandparents were all immigrants. Pretty much all my great uncles on that side served in WWII or in Korea in my grandfather’s case. King is such a right wing asshole. Just so fucking typical.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:15:33pm

Main engine burn in 4 min.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:16:39pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:17:13pm

So it turns out that if your options are a) hike with a full pack for 4 miles while wearing flip flops or b) put your hiking boots back on over some really impressive blisters, option a is totally reasonable.

(Miles hiked in boots: 4. Miles hiked in flip flops: 13. Only had to haul the full pack for the trip out though, thanks to some fortunate circumstances.)

We did hike into Kings Canyon National Park, which is where this perhaps overly-sharpened phone camera photo is from. Maybe I will find the energy to dig out the good photos tomorrow, but there’s not a ton.

So anyway, you’re all still stuck with me. (Most common wildlife observed on the trail, besides the most obnoxious mosquitoes ever? Lizards.)

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:18:23pm

re: #41 The Vicious Babushka

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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:20:13pm

re: #36 bratwurst

I thought he would be a STRONG contender…but in hindsight it is easy to see there was no “lane” for Walker. He was not enough of a lunatic to tempt anyone drawn to Trump or Carson, nor evangelical enough pull votes away from Cruz, nor mainstream enough for Bush or Kasich fans. It turns out that being famous for loving the Koch brothers and hating unions wasn’t anywhere close to sexy enough for 2016.

He was also dumb as a box of rocks. A DJ called him up and pretended to be one of the Koch brothers and Walker believed it. The tape the DJ made is mindblowing.

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jaunte  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:20:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:20:55pm

re: #36 bratwurst

I thought he would be a STRONG contender…but in hindsight it is easy to see there was no “lane” for him. He was not enough of a lunatic to tempt anyone drawn to Trump or Carson, nor evangelical enough pull votes away from Cruz, nor mainstream enough for Bush or Kasich fans. It turns out that being famous for loving the Koch brothers and hating unions wasn’t anywhere close to sexy enough for 2016.

Good points.

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:21:06pm

I don’t know… this “thermal engineer” has a strange accent…. are we sure he’s not ISIS?????

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:21:15pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

Just so it’s clear, I don’t think immigrants integrating is sad but when I see third or fourth generation Irish-Americans engage in the same bigotry towards Hispanics that our forefathers faced or Eastern European ones like one of my own cousins who had all immigrant grandparents embrace someone like Trump, it just makes me sick.

In the meantime, this ninth-generation Irish-American descendant is doing his damnedest to stop the cycle of bigotry and hatred. I refuse to pass on to my children the evils my generation inherited.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:21:39pm

re: #45 jaunte

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35-minute burn? Is that an ion thruster, then?

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Viscous Obama  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:21:45pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

Wading through Duke’s twitter feed and I feel dirty. This is the last one.

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Uh, so what’s he gonna do about it?

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:22:40pm

Why doesn’t NASA hire Americans???!!!!!

MAKE NASA GREAT AGAIN!

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jaunte  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:23:45pm

re: #49 thedopefishlives

<blockquote”..NASA doesn’t actually need the engine to burn for the entire 35 minutes to enter Jupiter’s orbit, though. In fact, only 20 minutes will do the trick. Burning for 35 minutes would put Juno into its intended 53-day orbit, but the spacecraft can still get into Jupiter’s orbit after just 20 to 30 minutes. “After it’s been firing for somewhere around 20 minutes to a half hour, we will know it’s been on long enough to put the spacecraft into orbit,” Steve Levin, a Juno project scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, told The Verge. “So even if something went wrong at that point, we wouldn’t be in the right orbit, but we’d still be orbiting Jupiter, and that’s a very recoverable thing.”

theverge.com

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Shimshon  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:24:24pm

I like fireworks but only professionally done. And accompanied by classical music. Never got the appeal of buying little ones and doing it in your backyard or front of the house and annoying neighbours also risking your limbs.

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:25:29pm

re: #53 Shimshon

Oh for the days of Fiedler and the Boston Pops.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:25:52pm

re: #52 jaunte

Yeah, but a chemical thruster burning for 20 minutes would be a hell of a delta-v. A Saturn V launch to orbit was only 11.5 minutes of burn time.

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:25:53pm

Bill Nye on the NASA channel now.

Well, that was quick, about three seconds.

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BeachDem  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:25:53pm

re: #22 Stanley Sea

Beach Dem - I’m at Maple Street!

Be vewwy caweful.

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:26:15pm

re: #56 Anymouse

It was a Lucy-moment.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:26:55pm

re: #55 thedopefishlives

Yeah, but a chemical thruster burning for 20 minutes would be a hell of a delta-v. A Saturn V launch to orbit was only 11.5 minutes of burn time.

I would think engine size matters a little here.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:27:07pm

re: #53 Shimshon

I like fireworks but only professionally done. And accompanied by classical music. Never got the appeal of buying little ones and doing it in your backyard or front of the house and annoying neighbours also risking your limbs.

I used to be a fireworks operator. It takes surprisingly little training to be allowed to shoot those things. Hella fun, though; I absolutely miss it. And you’re right; I never really got the full appeal of the little blow-your-fingers-off fireworks. Once I started operating professionally, it kinda sucked the fun out of all of the little stuff.

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jaunte  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:27:50pm

Juno is traveling 165,000 mph.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:27:56pm

re: #54 freetoken

Oh for the days of Fiedler and the Boston Pops.

Handel for Fireworks

Handel: Music for the Royal Fireworks, Overture.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:29:05pm

Juno on the right.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:29:10pm

re: #61 jaunte

signals take 48 minutes to travel.

At the speed of light.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:29:16pm

re: #59 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I would think engine size matters a little here.

I’m thinking more in terms of fuel. Burning a rocket engine, even a relatively small one, takes a lot of fuel.

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:29:33pm

re: #61 jaunte

Juno is traveling 165,000 mph.

Relative to…. Jupiter?

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:29:43pm

re: #61 jaunte

Juno is traveling 165,000 mph.

In a 155,000 mph zone. NASA has no respect for the laws of the universe.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:30:06pm

re: #55 thedopefishlives

Yeah, but a chemical thruster burning for 20 minutes would be a hell of a delta-v. A Saturn V launch to orbit was only 11.5 minutes of burn time.

It’s a standard hydrazine/nitrogen tetroxide engine—145 lbs of thrust, so it’s decelerating at ~.025 g.

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jaunte  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:30:15pm

If a Juno left Chicago, traveling at 165k…

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Stanley Sea  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:30:53pm

re: #57 BeachDem

Be vewwy caweful.

trump’s America.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:31:33pm

re: #65 thedopefishlives

I’m thinking more in terms of fuel. Burning a rocket engine, even a relatively small one, takes a lot of fuel.

I’m gonna assume someone with more brain cells than I currently have to rub together did the maths right somewhere.

Or they didn’t, because conversions are hard, and we’ll find out in 35 minutes.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:31:35pm

re: #68 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s a standard hydrazine/nitrogen tetroxide engine—145 lbs of thrust, so it’s decelerating at ~.025 g.

Interesting. I didn’t realize they were that fuel efficient. Guess I know too much about the big heavies and not enough about deep space maneuvering rockets.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:32:02pm

re: #71 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m gonna assume someone with more brain cells than I currently have to rub together did the maths right somewhere.

Or they didn’t, because conversions are hard, and we’ll find out in 35 minutes.

Hey, it’s not like we’ve ever had a failure when converting between standard and metric units that crashed a space probe before.

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:32:35pm

BTW, this drive to have a non-nuclear powered spacecraft is from a long-running issue in NASA about being able to get the plutonium-thermal supply chain guaranteed.

There are two issues here: 1) people wanting to get away from “nuclear”, and 2) the long term reliability of the plutonium power project for NASA given changes in the larger US nuclear program.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:32:51pm

re: #69 jaunte

If a Juno left Chicago, traveling at 165k…

It would mean it interfered with a right fielder making a play for a [foul] ball in a game that would break the hearts of thousands of assholes who had none to begin with.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:34:08pm

re: #72 thedopefishlives

Interesting. I didn’t realize they were that fuel efficient. Guess I know too much about the big heavies and not enough about deep space maneuvering rockets.

Their specific impulse is about 320 seconds as I remember. Hydrogen/oxygen can be up to 470 in a vacuum, but storability is the one and only consideration here.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:34:19pm

Oh wow I just got a bugfuck crazy shitgoblin in my mentions: @no_apostates

BLOCK IMMEDIATELY & DO NOT LOOK AT ITS TIMELINE.

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:34:56pm

NASA talking head said “Evolution” - clearly a godless plant.

Why does NASA hate America?

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:35:26pm

re: #75 Barefoot Grin

It would mean it interfered with a right fielder making a play for a [foul] ball in a game that would break the hearts of thousands of assholes who had none to begin with.

what-if.xkcd.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:36:14pm

I’m kind of surprised Juno doesn’t have two engines just in case—Cassini did.

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:36:27pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Oh wow I just got a bugfuck crazy shitgoblin in my mentions: @no_apostates

BLOCK IMMEDIATELY & DO NOT LOOK AT ITS TIMELINE.

Aaak.

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:36:55pm

“relative to Jupiter” - he said…

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:37:14pm

re: #80 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m kind of surprised Juno doesn’t have two engines just in case—Cassini did.

Must have pretty high confidence in the restartability of that particular engine.

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jaunte  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:37:29pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:37:51pm

re: #49 thedopefishlives

35-minute burn? Is that an ion thruster, then?

Ion engines only provide a gentle thrust over long periods of time. For this maneuver, you need something a bit more powerful.

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:37:51pm

NASA - naming craft after heathen gods.

Why does NASA hate baby Jesus??

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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:37:51pm

I’m watching the YouTube feed and the audio is delayed. I watched the video comparing the size of ships about 15 minutes ago but I just heard the audio for it about 5 minutes ago. I’m listening but not watching.

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:38:45pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Looks like a wingnut needs to be reported to Twitter, so the libertarian dudebros that run the company can say they don’t see a violation of terms of service, what with the death threats on his stream and all.

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:39:06pm

re: #87 stpaulbear

nasa.gov

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:40:21pm

re: #79 thedopefishlives

what-if.xkcd.com

That is f’ing great. Thank you—“hit by pitch” Hahahahaha.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:40:26pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Nightmares.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:41:55pm

re: #81 Anymouse

Aaak.

re: #91 Stanley Sea

Nightmares.

I told you NOT TO LOOK! Why did you look?

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:42:11pm

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

I told you NOT TO LOOK! Why did you look?

Because you said not to!

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sagehen  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:42:15pm

re: #45 jaunte

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Um… who’s holding the camera? Are there twin spacecraft taking pictures of each other?

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Jay C  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:42:21pm

re: #86 freetoken

NASA - naming craft after heathen gods.

Why does NASA hate baby Jesus??

Probably because they don’t want to have to anticipate negative headlines like “NASA says Baby Jesus crashes on Mars” or “Virgin Mary burns up in Venus’ atmosphere” and the like….

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Stanley Sea  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:42:37pm

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

I told you NOT TO LOOK! Why did you look?

Weakness. Stupidity. Trainwreck. ugh.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:42:44pm

re: #94 sagehen

Um… who’s holding the camera? Are there twin spacecraft taking pictures of each other?

There’s a guy off to the side of the sound stage holding an iPhone.

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(((˗ˏˋChankobun ˎˊ˗)))  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:43:03pm

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

To report his sub-amphibian ass.

Twice.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:43:24pm

re: #94 sagehen

Um… who’s holding the camera? Are there twin spacecraft taking pictures of each other?

That’s a graphic rendering, not a live feed.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:44:09pm

re: #98 (((˗ˏˋChankobun ˎˊ˗)))

To report his sub-amphibian ass.

Twice.

I did too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:44:14pm

It’s almost midnight and I’m still hearing fireworks going off. Fuck these guys.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:45:10pm

re: #94 sagehen

Um… who’s holding the camera? Are there twin spacecraft taking pictures of each other?

That’s Daedalus. He’s saying “no, no!”

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:46:00pm

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

It’s almost midnight and I’m still hearing fireworks going off. Fuck these guys.

Last year, some douchecanoe with a quadcopter flew the damn thing right in the middle of everyone’s view, filming the display from the air. Great idea, terrible execution.

104
jaunte  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:46:18pm
105
Sherlock Hound  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:46:42pm

re: #96 Stanley Sea

I wanted to see if someone could surpass Most Obnoxious Nym. I’m always saddened to find that this is indeed the case for Mr. K-cubed.

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MsJ  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:49:34pm

The big question is…how much will it cost to rescue Matt Damon from Jupiter? :-)

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SteelPH  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:50:00pm

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

I told you NOT TO LOOK! Why did you look?

Because it’s worse not knowing!
/

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MsJ  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:50:46pm

re: #107 SteelPH

Because it’s worse not knowing!

Maybe not so much. Not this time.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:51:08pm

re: #106 MsJ

The big question is…how much will it cost to rescue Matt Damon from Jupiter? :-)

Is he there mining helium so that we can continue making hilarious “chipmunk” voices?

Priceless!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:51:58pm

re: #49 thedopefishlives

35-minute burn? Is that an ion thruster, then?

It uses the 1b version of this engine.
en.wikipedia.org

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jaunte  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:54:33pm
112
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:55:16pm

Burn complete.

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:55:20pm

re: #90 Barefoot Grin

That is f’ing great. Thank you—“hit by pitch” Hahahahaha.

And that’s why I like hanging out here. I learn new stuff every day.

But the question is would the Cubs still have a chance at the World Series?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:55:53pm

Scariest part done.
Juno is a large spacecraft.

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:56:07pm

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

I told you NOT TO LOOK! Why did you look?

Mom, you said no! What was I supposed to do?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:58:00pm

Juno is officially in orbit around Jupiter! A stunning achievement.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:58:21pm

re: #110 Not a Sparkly Vampire

It uses the 1b version of this engine.
en.wikipedia.org

Isp 318 seconds. I was off by 2.//

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 8:58:29pm

re: #98 (((˗ˏˋChankobun ˎˊ˗)))

To report his sub-amphibian ass.

Twice.

re: #100 Stanley Sea

I did too.

$5 says Twitter reviews it and finds nothing wrong.

119
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:01:26pm

#Juno #AmericaIsAlreadyGreat

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Lidane  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:01:56pm

re: #106 MsJ

The big question is…how much will it cost to rescue Matt Damon from Jupiter? :-)

Eleventy kabillion dollars. We’ll miss him. ;)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:02:32pm

re: #117 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So 145 lbs of thrust for 2108 seconds, divided by 318, I get about 961.2 lbs of propellant burned.

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thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:02:37pm

Google has already updated their front page doodle to reflect the achievement.

123
Big Beautiful Door  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:02:40pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Oh wow I just got a bugfuck crazy shitgoblin in my mentions: @no_apostates

BLOCK IMMEDIATELY & DO NOT LOOK AT ITS TIMELINE.

I LOOKED!!

124
thedopefishlives  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:02:56pm

re: #123 Big Beautiful Door

I LOOKED!!

DON’T LOOK, ETHEL!!!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:03:37pm

re: #120 Lidane

Eleventy kabillion dollars. We’ll miss him. ;)

The radiation in Juno’s science orbit would kill him in about 20 minutes, anyway…so no rush.

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jaunte  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:03:56pm
127
Big Beautiful Door  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:05:00pm

re: #109 Barefoot Grin

Is he there mining helium so that we can continue making hilarious “chipmunk” voices?

Priceless!

Never fear; they just found a big deposit of helium in the Rift Valley in Africa!

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:05:33pm

re: #124 thedopefishlives

DON’T LOOK, ETHEL!!!

Too late. Grandstanding. Right there in front of the home team.

129
FormerDirtDart  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:07:18pm

re: #119 GlutenFreeJesus

#Juno #AmericaIsAlreadyGreat

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BeachDem  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:10:32pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

trump’s America.

I always quote the ending, but there are a few lines from within that stood out tonight—very Trumpublican (even a character named Don):

Let’s pick out every idiosyncrasy of every single man, woman, and child on the street. And then we might as well set up some kind of citizens’court. How about a firing squad at dawn, Charlie, so we can get rid of all the suspects. Narrow them down. Make it easier for you. Don.


You’re standing here all set to crucify—all set to find a scapegoat—all
desperate to point some kind of a finger at a neighbor! Well now, look, friends, the only thing that’s gonna happen is that we’ll eat each other up alive—


They pick the most dangerous enemy they can find and it’s themselves. And all we need do is sit back … and watch.

131
Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:11:03pm

Wow that wingnut on Twitter is going all-in; a tweet every couple minutes. Really vile stuff too.

I’ll raise that bet to $10 that the libertarian douchecanoes that run Twitter won’t eject him.

He also only just created the account this month according to his Twitter page.

132
Lidane  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:15:06pm
133
FormerDirtDart  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:15:57pm

All I see are heavily armed grifters

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:16:44pm

re: #125 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Earth is like 1/3 RADS. Jupiter is like 20,000 I think. They mentioned this during the broadcast.

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jaunte  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:17:48pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart

50k? Are they buying a quarter acre?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:18:11pm

re: #125 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The radiation in Juno’s science orbit would kill him in about 20 minutes, anyway…so no rush.

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:18:54pm
138
FormerDirtDart  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:19:55pm
139
SoundGuy 2016  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:23:26pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Oh, the liberals are using the star of David to smear Trump.. not Trump.

There is no bottom to the delusion.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:25:56pm

was this star of david thing like some kind of a signal for white supremacist scum to come out of their holes?

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TedStriker  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:26:52pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Oh wow I just got a bugfuck crazy shitgoblin in my mentions: @no_apostates

BLOCK IMMEDIATELY & DO NOT LOOK AT ITS TIMELINE.

re: #123 Big Beautiful Door

I LOOKED!!

re: #124 thedopefishlives

DON’T LOOK, ETHEL!!!

142
Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:27:04pm

I went in and reported numerous tweets from that fellow’s account as death threats.

I also noted that Twitter’s stunning lack of concern for harassment and death threats is why I will not join Twitter.

Let’s see if they respond to me (as they offer E-mail as one method of response).

143
freetoken  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:28:21pm

re: #138 FormerDirtDart

Why is NASA promoting heathen idols?

Isn’t this more proof that Christianity is under attack from the US Gov’t???

“Separation of Church and State” is for Christians only, eh?

MAKE NASA GREAT AGAIN!

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:28:33pm

re: #140 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

was this star of david thing like some kind of a signal for white supremacist scum to come out of their holes?

“John has a long mustache”

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Kragar  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:33:42pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart

146
Romantic Heretic  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:34:47pm

re: #79 thedopefishlives

That’s given me a severe fit of the giggles.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:35:02pm

re: #145 Kragar

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Do you accept dildos?

As contributions or as contributors?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:37:41pm

re: #143 freetoken

Why is NASA promoting heathen idols?

Isn’t this more proof that Christianity is under attack from the US Gov’t???

“Separation of Church and State” is for Christians only, eh?

MAKE NASA GREAT AGAIN!

Well, since the entire mission is premised by math and science that accepts that the entire universe is older, by several orders of magnitude, than 6,000-to-10,000 years, NASA might as well go all in…

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:40:26pm

re: #148 FormerDirtDart

Greek gods being promoted - is that science ????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TAKE NASA BACK!

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Skip Intro  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:41:34pm

re: #86 freetoken

NASA - naming craft after heathen gods.

Why does NASA hate baby Jesus??

When Trump is president all spacecraft will be named Donald Trump and the ridicously slow speed of light will be tripled.

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:41:43pm

re: #149 freetoken

Greek gods being promoted - is that science ????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TAKE NASA BACK!

Galileo - famous Greek God, now available as an aluminium Lego.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:42:39pm

Now trending in the US: #TrumpFilms

153
SoundGuy 2016  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:44:40pm

I did ‘Big Debt Trouble in Little China’ but there’s a bunch of great ones.

154
TedStriker  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:45:35pm

re: #152 FormerDirtDart

Now trending in the US: #TrumpFilms

re: #153 SoundGuy 2016

I did ‘Big Debt Trouble in Little China’ but there’s a bunch of great ones.

Citizen Trump

Oh, wait…

155
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:46:27pm

re: #154 TedStriker

Citizen Trump

His final word: Ivanka

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:47:24pm
157
TedStriker  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:47:54pm

re: #155 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

His final word: Ivanka

No, it’d be “Chyyynaaaa…”

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Shiplord Kirel  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:48:10pm

re: #152 FormerDirtDart

Now trending in the US: #TrumpFilms

A Trumpwork Orange

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TedStriker  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:48:16pm

…

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:49:11pm
161
jaunte  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:50:45pm
162
Ed E. Lishus  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:53:51pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Yeah, leave poor little hands Donny alone! How was he to know he was re-tweeting a white supremacist meme? Could have happened to any of us! Maybe he just likes the shape of six-pointed stars—ever though of that you loony libs?

163
teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:54:56pm
164
Skip Intro  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:55:32pm

maria lia calvo ‏@MariaLiaCalvo
3 Wives and a Funeral: The Newt Gingrich Story. #TrumpFilms

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:56:54pm

re: #164 Skip Intro

maria lia calvo ‏@MariaLiaCalvo
3 Wives and a Funeral: The Newt Gingrich Story. #TrumpFilms

Second Birth of a Nation: The Rise of Trump

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2016 • 9:59:26pm

Yuck.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:06:17pm

re: #42 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So it turns out that if your options are a) hike with a full pack for 4 miles while wearing flip flops or b) put your hiking boots back on over some really impressive blisters, option a is totally reasonable.

(Miles hiked in boots: 4. Miles hiked in flip flops: 13. Only had to haul the full pack for the trip out though, thanks to some fortunate circumstances.)

We did hike into Kings Canyon National Park, which is where this perhaps overly-sharpened phone camera photo is from. Maybe I will find the energy to dig out the good photos tomorrow, but there’s not a ton.

[Embedded content]

So anyway, you’re all still stuck with me. (Most common wildlife observed on the trail, besides the most obnoxious mosquitoes ever? Lizards.)

Had a friend who served in the peace corps in Nepal.

He said the footwear of choice walking up and down hills & valleys (apparently there are a more than a few of them in Nepal) was flip flops.

More specifically flip flops that were trimmed at the heel so it didn’t protrude out from underneath your heel.

That was to prevent the flip flop from flipping mud up the back of your calf.

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BeachDem  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:07:23pm

re: #154 TedStriker

Citizen Trump

Oh, wait…

I particularly liked “Full Metal Jackoff’ ,”Million Dollar Crybaby” and “The Color Orange.”

My suggestions:

Gone with the Windbag
Freddie Got (a short) Fingered (Son)
To Mock a Killingbird
The Lying, the Kvetch and the (made in CHYNA) Wardrobe

169
Belafon  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:08:04pm

re: #160 teleskiguy

They should have posed the Trump hands in horn formation as well.

170
Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:10:57pm

re: #157 TedStriker

No, it’d be “Chyyynaaaa…”

“Loserrrrrrrrs….”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:12:54pm

re: #167 BeenHereAwhile

Had a friend who served in the peace corps in Nepal.

He said the footwear of choice walking up and down hills & valleys (apparently there are a more than a few of them in Nepal) was flip flops.

More specifically flip flops that were trimmed at the heel so it didn’t protrude out from underneath your heel.

That was to prevent the flip flop from flipping mud up the back of your calf.

When we have really slippery snow, I’ll try every pair of shoes I have, and slip and slide around, and always wind up with zoris. (I’m not Jimmy Buffet, so that’s what I’ve always called them).

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Jenner7  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:21:13pm

A fire a block away from my house. Not sure if a house or what, but it’s out. Hope no one as hurt. I couldn’t get close enough. It was wild seeing all this smoke and looking up to someone lighting fireworks.

This was the loudest July 4th yet. I wish it was over, but we have Pioneer Day here in two weeks and that means more fireworks. Ugh.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:23:47pm

re: #172 Jenner7

A fire a block away from my house. Not sure if a house or what, but it’s out. Hope no one as hurt. I couldn’t get close enough. It was wild seeing all this smoke and looking up to someone lighting fireworks.

This was the loudest July 4th yet. I wish it was over, but we have Pioneer Day here in two weeks and that means more fireworks. Ugh.

I have not heard a single pop. I’m really surprised. Sure, fireworks are illegal here in town, but that’s never stopped them before.

175
teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:25:37pm

All fireworks that are blowing up and flying in the air right now in Denver were purchased out of state, Colorado law forbids such fireworks.

I’m curious how Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona and Utah are dealing with the cannabis scofflaws in their jurisdictions, all that illicit interstate traffic. Hmm…

qN7WnWl6g7Rxc27/unOQ+kfvpewZ2jbBhpY9k4JcxUJ7w8IGriGM1VWJwjXZ1c4mD7GgY93T2vBbikXN1zv7l9W/qG67jFz99Sj7CwzWLKHljgooQPEZGONuw2Dzq+ufK/sUS/Y9uS8=

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:27:57pm

You knew this was coming:

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:32:17pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

All fireworks that are blowing up and flying in the air right now in Denver were purchased out of state, Colorado law forbids such fireworks.

I’m curious how Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona and Utah are dealing with the cannabis scofflaws in their jurisdictions, all that illicit interstate traffic. Hmm…

[Embedded content]

Well, Nebraska teamed up with Oklahoma to take a court case to Federal court (conservatives are vowing to go all the way to the USSC if necessary, because they are fiscal conservatives) to overturn Colorado’s law as a violation of Federal law.

As it turns out, conservative states are all about “states’ rights” right up until they are not.

The Attorney General of Oklahoma told the state governor there (Mary Fallin) he was not happy with her directing him to take Oklahoma into the case. His argument was that if Oklahoma and Nebraska were successful, that would set a precedent for Colorado to go after Oklahoma gun laws.

Here in Nebraska, there was talk about cutting off all the farm roads that go into Colorado from the north and east, and only leave open the nine paved roads so the police could better search cars without warrants or probable cause. Ranchers and farmers shut down that idea as a burden on their farms.

Currently, Nebraska still whines about Colorado, and anecdotes appear that people driving out of Colorado into my state with out-of-state license plates (especially Colorado plates) are harassed. The counties that border Colorado all claim that drug smuggling is way up (despite the heavy restrictions in Colorado on out-of-staters buying maryjane and no actual reporting of this in the local papers).

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:36:51pm

re: #176 SoundGuy 2016

And if it is untrue, said Mexican Restaurant ought to sue for defamation.

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Kragar  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:51:30pm
180
Belafon  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:53:35pm

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:57:23pm

re: #180 Belafon

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Jenner7  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:57:27pm

re: #180 Belafon

1fEhIQhNIFhLlLsOUA+cp6cgeuxCvTEQCsabLxVz0JM=

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2016 • 10:59:35pm

re: #174 freetoken

You’ll never find the video played at Ark Encounter, I propose.

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:00:13pm

Trump’s anti-Semitic meme is now international news:

bbc.com

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Nyet  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:01:13pm

re: #179 Kragar

Meh. Here is a song named “We will all die” and it sounds pretty uplifting.

KNORKATOR - Wir werden (OFFICIAL VIDEO)

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Snarknado!  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:02:58pm

re: #180 Belafon

qO0gRERAbKXrhFLsNj7r2Vl4bwS7OAvZKsmrfBa4jgCoXFF9m7ixIGi5HGHoCdc8

187
Shimshon  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:03:16pm

r/the_donald is in full on crisis mode. Every time their savior looks bad they try and play a “NO U”

This time they are upvoting to reddits first /all page some image that says”Hillary hates black people and Jews, tell your friends!”

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:03:16pm

re: #6 mmmirele

LOL I remember Mark Driscoll. He’s that Mars Hill Church asshole who called women “penis homes.”

The first thing to know about your penis is, that despite the way it may see, it is not your penis. Ultimately, God created you and it is his penis. You are simply borrowing it for a while.

While His penis is on loan you must admit that it is sort of just hanging out there very lonely as if it needed a home, sort of like a man wondering the streets looking for a house to live in. Knowing that His penis would need a home, God created a woman to be your wife and when you marry her and look down you will notice that your wife is shaped differently than you and makes a very nice home.

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Kragar  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:05:39pm

re: #185 Nyet

Needs more “planet of the apes”

Peter Fox - Alles neu (offizielles Video)

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Kragar  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:07:06pm
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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:09:55pm

US Navy funding research to use locusts to detect explosives.

bbc.com

But locusts have a similar sense of smell to humans in that they can identify a particular smell even when it is mixed in with other odours.

Prof Raman said they had “robotic noses” that could be trained to pinpoint and recall a smell such as dangerous chemicals.

He told the BBC: “It took only a few hundred milliseconds for the locust’s brain to begin tracking a novel odour introduced in its surroundings. The locusts are processing chemical cues in an extremely rapid fashion.

“Even the state-of-the-art miniaturised chemical-sensing devices have a handful of sensors. On the other hand, if you look at the insect antennae, where their chemical sensors are located, there are several hundreds of thousands of sensors and of a variety of types,” he said.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:15:25pm

re: #168 BeachDem

I particularly liked “Full Metal Jackoff’ ,”Million Dollar Crybaby” and “The Color Orange.”

My suggestions:

Gone with the Windbag
Freddie Got (a short) Fingered (Son)
To Mock a Killingbird
The Lying, the Kvetch and the (made in CHYNA) Wardrobe

Little Pig Man?

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Kragar  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:17:11pm

re: #192 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:17:14pm

re: #176 SoundGuy 2016

You knew this was coming:

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She should be happy they did. I’m guessing any food served to her would have come with “special sauce”.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:17:32pm

re: #191 Anymouse

Almost like using Gambian giant rats to sniff out landmines, but in this case the creature they’re using is relatively simple and can de deployed in swarms.

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:21:07pm

re: #195 Eric The Fruit Bat

Almost like using Gambian giant rats to sniff out landmines, but in this case the creature they’re using is relatively simple and can de deployed in swarms.

That is an interesting article. It also has a link on the same rat being used to sniff out tuberculosis. (I had the misfortune of developing TB in 1987, presumed to have come from a port visit in Tunisia. Fortunately for me, the Navy didn’t have to use a giant rat to detect it.)

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:23:26pm

re: #180 Belafon

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:27:21pm

re: #195 Eric The Fruit Bat

…but in this case the creature they’re using is relatively simple and can de deployed in swarms.

Just like Trump supporters!

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:31:13pm

re: #197 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:32:33pm

re: #193 Kragar

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:36:02pm

Think Progress reports on how FOX News Channel covered for Donald Trump by eliminating mention of his anti-Semitic meme originating from a white supremacist, and instead choosing to go on about media bias.

They also waited two days before they mentioned it at all.

thinkprogress.org

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:38:09pm

re: #199 Anymouse

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Anymouse  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:43:24pm

re: #202 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

I think every dog gets a first place position with the people the household cat owns. ::)

(Our cat regularly harassed our dog to the point of enslavement.)

I am sorry to hear what happened with your family pet. We didn’t find out what happened with our dog (the paralysation was sudden, and his death may not have been related to it since he continued to eat and drink normally).

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:50:53pm

re: #203 Anymouse

I think every dog gets a first place position with the people the household cat owns. ::)

(Our cat regularly harassed our dog to the point of enslavement.)

I am sorry to hear what happened with your family pet. We didn’t find out what happened with our dog (the paralysation was sudden, and his death may not have been related to it since he continued to eat and drink normally).

All things considered, it could have been much worse. He was himself pretty much up until the day before, and it was quick. You take your comforts where you can, I guess.

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2016 • 11:58:59pm

Assuming three presentations per video, there should be two more videos posted soon, from the April 29th symposium:

carta.anthropogeny.org

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2016 • 12:30:25am
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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 12:33:30am

re: #206 Kragar

Uh, Okay, Alex, if you say so.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 12:43:25am

re: #206 Kragar

Imagine listening to that for a few hours straight.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 5, 2016 • 12:46:03am

I’ve clicked on an Alex Jones clip before, once. Never again.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 12:46:44am

re: #208 Nyet

Imagine listening to that for a few hours straight.

There is no ear bleach strong enough, and I would rather use rum to kill my brain cells.

On the other hand, one might witness Mr. Jones having an on-air heart attack.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 12:47:24am

re: #209 Single-handed sailor

This one is hilarious.

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freetoken  Jul 5, 2016 • 12:47:27am

Sunday night I wrote a comment about what I consider to be poor research wrt determining the hesitancy to embrace evolution because of religiosity:

littlegreenfootballs.com

In which I asserted that issues in taxonomy are so large that making a claim that Chimpanzees ought to be in the genus Homo is a poorly framed question.

To add to that, here is a presentation from earlier this year, in which the issue of what exactly can be placed into Homo and why, is discussed:

HOMO - WHAT, WHO, WHEN, WHERE?

Interesting stuff (if you’re into evolution).

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 12:50:16am

re: #209 Single-handed sailor

I’ve clicked on an Alex Jones clip before, once. Never again.

The day before yesterday I listened to Alex Jones interviewing David Duke. Do I get a medal for that? /

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freetoken  Jul 5, 2016 • 12:50:55am

I think I watched part of the symposium live online when it occurred, but forget to go back and view and vids of the missed parts.

CARTA takes about a month or two to post videos.

Looking at the coming symposia for the next year it seems sort of not-very-engaging, compared to the ones in Feb and Apr this year.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 12:52:35am

re: #212 freetoken

RE: your comment at the link: unfortunately, too often “social science” is a misnomer.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 12:54:45am

Never thought I would post Kristol’s tweet approvingly.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 12:55:49am

re: #213 Nyet

The day before yesterday I listened to Alex Jones interviewing David Duke. Do I get a medal for that? /

Perhaps combat pay.

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TK-421  Jul 5, 2016 • 12:59:02am

We watched Idiocracy for the 4th. Felt appropriate.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:00:43am
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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:05:40am

Trump campaign probes Lewandowski’s ‘friendly’ spending

I hope Corey enjoys the … probing.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:08:53am

The first time in my memory that Bill Kristol is right.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:09:08am

re: #219 Nyet

Conservatives repudiated the John Birch Society? When?

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:11:38am

re: #222 Anymouse

Conservatives repudiated the John Birch Society? When?

Buckley.

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TK-421  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:12:47am

re: #222 Anymouse

Forget it, he’s rolling.

Kristol (stock photo)
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:13:21am

re: #176 SoundGuy 2016

You knew this was coming:

Trump supporter says Mexican restaurant refused to serve her

This has nothing to do with race, gender or religious affiliation, this has to do with a personal choice to publicly support a political candidate. That is not covered by our concepts of equal service. What is happening to America? Wait, this is in Cancun…

THE WALL JUST GOT ANOTHER TEN FEET HIGHER!!!

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:14:49am

Though I should correct Kristol here as he is engaging in a No True Scotsman fallacy: it’s one group of conservatives denouncing another group of conservatives. Birchers never stopped being conservatives, just as Protestant fundies and the KKK never stopped being Christians, ISIS never stopped being Muslims, Kahanists never stopped being Jews and so on.

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:16:08am

re: #223 Nyet

Buckley.

I was reading up on the JBS. It seems they have an on-again, off-again relationship with conservatives and libertarians. William F. Buckley and Ayn Rand both repudiated them, but for different reasons. Even today the JBS holds on to some libertarian ideas (dismantle the Federal Reserve and go on a gold standard), and in 2010 became co-sponsors of CPAC. They have always supported withdrawing from the UN, and point to a recent failed initiative in Utah that urged our withdrawal.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:18:48am

re: #227 Anymouse

Trump is the ultimate Bircher for the year 2016.

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freetoken  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:20:55am

re: #215 Nyet

RE: your comment at the link: unfortunately, too often “social science” is a misnomer.

Well, ok, but writing “those who attempt to measure human reactions by quantifying responses” seems a little long to write…

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:22:33am

Has Trump stated his position on fluoridation yet?

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:44:52am

The brogressives’ new tactic: claim that a landslide against Trump is imminent, so you can vote for whomever you want.

truthdig.com

BTW this is an admission that their vote doesn’t matter and that they’re just a small segment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:47:19am

re: #231 Nyet

The brogressives’ new tactic: claim that a landslide against Trump is imminent, so you can vote for whomever you want.

truthdig.com

BTW this is an admission that their vote doesn’t matter and that they’re just a small segment.

These people see politics as a form of public temper tantrum, which puts them in the same league with Brexit supporters and Trump voters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:51:41am

newsmax neadline:

USA Today Poll: Clinton Lead Over Trump Plunges to Single Digits

This is the only horse race left in town: to make it a big deal whenever Trump edges up by a few tenths of a percentage point…

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 1:52:43am

The Bill O’Reilly line still nearly spoils the song for me, but less so after seeing the brogressive madness in the US and the UK.

The Indelicates - America

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Anymouse  Jul 5, 2016 • 2:09:45am

re: #231 Nyet

The brogressives’ new tactic: claim that a landslide against Trump is imminent, so you can vote for whomever you want.

truthdig.com

BTW this is an admission that their vote doesn’t matter and that they’re just a small segment.

Nope. Trump needs to go down in the biggest landslide since Alf Landon.

None of this “vote for whomever you want” nonsense. That’s partly how we got Geo. W. Bush.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 5, 2016 • 2:55:39am

Trump is a cliche inverted: If you’re not actively against him, you’re for him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 2:59:14am

re: #236 Decatur Deb

Trump is a cliche inverted: If you’re not actively against him, you’re for him.

He is twisting it further: if you are not for him, you are anti-God, pro-terror and anti-America.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 5, 2016 • 3:04:15am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is twisting it further: if you are not for him, you are anti-God, pro-terror and anti-America.

Every generation has to fight this reactionary bullshit. Most don’t get the luxury of such a clear-cut choice.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 3:24:33am

For you otter lovers, a report about Singapore’s celebrity otters.

bbc.com

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Decatur Deb  Jul 5, 2016 • 3:24:46am

CNN web’s explanation of Sheriff Trump’s badge is essentially a summary of the last few days of LGF. At least they finally got the story.

cnn.com

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Dave In Austin  Jul 5, 2016 • 3:26:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 3:41:00am

A St Andrews-based independent comic book publisher is challenging the USA’s domination of the superhero genre.

Diamondsteel Comics held a launch for the latest comic in its Saltire series at Glasgow Comic Con at the weekend.

Set in a mythological Scotland but inspired by historical events and real places, the stories centre on “Scotland’s first superhero” - Saltire.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 5, 2016 • 3:42:12am

re: #241 Dave In Austin

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If there actually was a probable cause finding in the FBI’s report, and I have no reason to think there will be, then this incident has made it impossible for Lynch to do anything other than prosecute, and Lynch has been very professional about the whole thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 3:55:44am

I’m certain Donald will have something to say about that…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:00:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:01:54am

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ll say this for Twitter: it’s not a bad training ground for the art of not giving a fuck about the thinly gleaned opinions of bollockwads.

Twitter is for letting us know what you are having for lunch, along with where and with whom. It totally lacks the nuance to discuss the complex issues that make up political discourse.

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GrFace  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:04:47am

re: #235 Anymouse

None of this “vote for whomever you want” nonsense. That’s partly how we got Geo. W. Bush.

And of course they live in bluish states so those of us in red states will be screwed yet again while they have some local and state cover.

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DarknSilentNight  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:12:31am

Apologies for the “post and run”, but I have to get to work soon. Let me add my two cents to this discussion.
Yes, David Duke and everyone of his ilk are ecstatic about this. To them, “All exposure is good. Good exposure is better.” With everyone who saw and heard about the original tweet, they’re getting one or the other. To us, we’re “exposure is good” because we’re not bugshit crazy. To everyone else (read “Drumpf’s followers”), it’s “good exposure”.
As someone mentioned upthread, we have to deal with this shit every generation. It’s now this generation’s turn. (I consider mine to have been the one that dealt with the crazie’s such as The Order (read “the guys who killed radio host Alan Berg”), The Covenenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord (CSA), and ended with Tim McVeigh.)
But I think many people are missing the point of the original tweet. Drumpf doesn’t give a rat’s ass if he’s upsetting people. As long as he’s getting exposure (Who needs money for advertising when you can just say something vile and have everyone blast it out themselves?), he’s good. The point of the original tweet was that he wanted everyone thinking “Hillary is corrupt.” What are they seeing time and time again? This image with Hillary and money (root of all evil and all that) and that she is corrupt. I’m no psychologist, but something tells me that this is playing wonderfully to Trump’s demo. Those people want easy answers and quick solutions. They figure Trump understands their basic desire that if we get rid of the darkies and… whatever other bullshit some wingnut sputters… everything will be gumdrops and rainbows. Remember: As someone mentioned upthread, Duke’s demo is the same people who HAVE created their own “patriot communes” in the past. Look up CSA (Covenant, Sword, Arm of the Lord) and learn how they group came to a rather whimpering end. Long story short: FBI and a large group of local police talked them out of their compound where they were heavily fortified and preparing for the End Times. All of this, ALL OF IT, for us in the US is “Been there, done that.”
Let me end with this: Every time someone mentions Trump, mention McVeigh. Mention the worst act of domestic terrorism on US soil. This guy wasn’t a Mooooooselem. He was hard-core, Aryan Nations Christian to the bone. THEN mention that Trump has allied himself with his people.
To a Trump follower who may be reading this, some may have forgotten, but not me.
Again, apologies for posting and running, but I’m going to be late to work.
Later, lizards.

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Scout  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:14:44am

re: #246 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Twitter is for letting us know what you are having for lunch, along with where and with whom. It totally lacks the nuance to discuss the complex issues that make up political discourse.

I agree with you 100 percent, but good luck getting that genie back in the bottle. :)

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darthstar  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:24:28am
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Archangelus  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:40:57am

Morning folks, hope you had a good 4th!
This TrumpFilms hashtag is proving quite amusing, adding some of my own contributions to the merriment…

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Archangelus  Jul 5, 2016 • 4:43:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:14:20am

these people…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:15:31am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

these people…

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Christian loving-kindness //

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Timothy Watson  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:15:53am

Freshman do nothing Congressman already tapping into the wingnut grifting circuit:

Brat by the book — Freshman Rep. pens book on victory, Congress, political philosophy

It’s too nausating to pull quotes from, I could only read a couple paragraphs before my brain shut down to protect myself.

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dharmamark  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:24:49am

re: #255 Timothy Watson

Freshman do nothing Congressman already tapping into the wingnut grifting circuit:

It’s too nausating to pull quotes from, I could only read a couple paragraphs before my brain shut down to protect myself.

I’m not sure he’s an upgrade from Cantor. Matter of fact, it was kind of a “lose-lose” proposition for Virginians.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:27:52am

re: #255 Timothy Watson

Freshman do nothing Congressman already tapping into the wingnut grifting circuit:

It’s too nausating to pull quotes from, I could only read a couple paragraphs before my brain shut down to protect myself.

Brat and Rod Dreher are cut from the same cloth.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:42:08am

So, found a large unexploded fireworks at the dog run in my apartment complex while walking my dogs this morning.
Since it didn’t appear to have ever been lit I picked it up and threw it out of the fenced-in dog run. Then used four discarded fireworks mortar tubes to mark it’s position.
Called and left a message on the complexes emergency maintenance line to inform them of it’s location. And, remind them it’s probably illegal for them to simply throw the unexploded device in the trash.
Feel a little bad for the complexes maintenance crew today. Place is trashed. July 4th residue everywhere, dumpster all over flowing (yesterday was the normally scheduled trash pickup)

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jeffreyw  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:42:50am

Imgur
Good morning!

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:43:06am

1. Hock anti Semitic graphic from racist forum
2. Tweet it
3. When blowback, blame media
4. When that doesn’t work, blame PC
5. I have Jewish friends
6. PROFIT!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:44:44am

re: #260 SoundGuy 2016

1. Hock anti Semitic graphic from racist forum
2. Tweet it
3. When blowback, blame media
4. When that doesn’t work, blame PC
5. I have Jewish friends
6. PROFIT!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 5, 2016 • 5:48:01am

re: #256 dharmamark

I’m not sure he’s an upgrade from Cantor. Matter of fact, it was kind of a “lose-lose” proposition for Virginians.

There were more than a few at RMC glad to be shut of him, though.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:12:07am

re: #255 Timothy Watson

Freshman do nothing Congressman already tapping into the wingnut grifting circuit:

It’s too nausating to pull quotes from, I could only read a couple paragraphs before my brain shut down to protect myself.

This ding-dong has published written a “book” already?

Good dog it’s gonna be a rough week in derp.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:13:05am

re: #257 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Brat and Rod Dreher are cut from the same cloth.

This quote from Brat sounds like he’s just a couple steps from screaming “ZOG ZOG ZOG” in the streets:

Washington, he said, is run by “powerful elites” who want to “ensure control of business and government contracts, and the surest way to do that is to get their own yes-men into the inner circles of government.”

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Nojay UK  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:13:06am

The rocket motor on the Cassini probe orbiting Saturn burned for about 90 minutes during insertion. The spacecraft engineers use the smallest engine that will provide the required delta-v at the destination, planning to run it for the full time window the trajectory offers. A bigger engine is extra mass that is better assigned to instruments, batteries, redundant transmitters and manoeuvering fuel on the spacecraft.

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:13:53am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s surprising how much stuff happened this weekend with Trump and his white supremacist tweet, and yet media outlets are still leery of calling it for what it is.

They’re still far too circumspect of what was done. They ignore that it was pulled from white supremacist twitter, which means Trump’s trawling those waters for inspiration. That’s damaging enough.

Then there’s the campaign claiming that he can’t be anti-Semitic for reasons. Except those reasons make no sense, especially in light of where the image originated.

But as Charles and others here have been saying, Trump isn’t the cause. He’s the symptom of the rot of the GOP. That Trump hasn’t been drummed out of the campaign despite prior white supremacist tweets also falls on the media and other GOP leaders, who needed the horse race and didn’t want to alienate core GOP voters who were flocking to Trump on his nativist/isolationist/xenophobic agenda.

Clinton has no such restraints. She doesn’t need the bigot brigade to win in November, so she doesn’t need to hold back in any way shape or form. Nor does Obama or anyone else operating as Hillary’s surrogate in going after Trump’s bigotry.

Oh, and because Jared Kushner and Ivanka are Jewish doesn’t mean Trump can’t be anti-Semitic or pandering to the bigot brigade. If anything, it’s even worse, since Trump’s bigotry isn’t getting pushback from within his family that is supposedly taking a greater role in his campaign. He’s still going to his base instinct to be a bigot.

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:17:24am

So, Trump supposedly met with Sen. Joni Ernest? What’s her qualifications to be VP? What has she actually accomplished?

She’s even lower on the totem than Christie or Portman or Rubio.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:18:04am

re: #260 SoundGuy 2016

1. Hock anti Semitic graphic from racist forum
2. Tweet it
3. When blowback, blame media
4. When that doesn’t work, blame PC
5. I have Jewish friends
6. PROFIT!

and again, this whole back-and-forth debate keeps us from asking Trump to explain to us how and why his experience and personal qualifications are appropriate for the highest elective office in the country…

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:18:11am

re: #267 lawhawk

So, Trump supposedly met with Sen. Joni Ernest? What’s her qualifications to be VP? What has she actually accomplished?

She’s even lower on the totem than Christie or Portman or Rubio.

1. She’s a woman.
2. No Republican has become president without winning Iowa.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:21:41am

re: #267 lawhawk

So, Trump supposedly met with Sen. Joni Ernest? What’s her qualifications to be VP? What has she actually accomplished?

She’s even lower on the totem than Christie or Portman or Rubio.

She wore bread bags on her shoes to school.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:23:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:23:43am

re: #270 Timothy Watson

She wore bread bags on her shoes to school.

And never mentioned how much money her family collected in farm subsidies…

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:24:57am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:25:28am

re: #264 Timothy Watson

This quote from Brat sounds like he’s just a couple steps from screaming “ZOG ZOG ZOG” in the streets:

Brat is a Calvinist AND a libertarian, so he’s already halfway there.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:26:36am

re: #271 FormerDirtDart

Something tells me the fainting couches and the clutching pearls are gonna sell out fast today.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:28:16am

re: #264 Timothy Watson

Washington, he said, is run by “powerful elites” who want to “ensure control of business and government contracts, and the surest way to do that is to get their own yes-men into the inner circles of government.”

Deep thoughts.

////

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:33:00am

re: #275 Sir John Barron

Something tells me the fainting couches and the clutching pearls are gonna sell out fast today.

Thing is, he could be making a statement on any of a dozen subjects.
So, simply watching the internet work it’s way to a roiling boil as we approach 11AM will require more popcorn

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:42:24am

re: #267 lawhawk

So, Trump supposedly met with Sen. Joni Ernest? What’s her qualifications to be VP? What has she actually accomplished?

She’s even lower on the totem than Christie or Portman or Rubio.

She’s a master pig castration-er. That’s something.

Squeal

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:47:17am

re: #267 lawhawk

So, Trump supposedly met with Sen. Joni Ernest? What’s her qualifications to be VP? What has she actually accomplished?

She’s even lower on the totem than Christie or Portman or Rubio.

She’s more qualified than the person who will be her boss.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:53:28am

re: #267 lawhawk

So, Trump supposedly met with Sen. Joni Ernest? What’s her qualifications to be VP? What has she actually accomplished?

She’s even lower on the totem than Christie or Portman or Rubio.

Drudge VP poll:

NEWT GINGRICH 39.32% (31,017 votes)

JONI ERNST 30.98% (24,437 votes)

JEFF SESSIONS 15.35% (12,109 votes)

MIKE PENCE 7.41% (5,846 votes)

CHRIS CHRISTIE 5.42% (4,278 votes)

BOB CORKER 1.51% (1,194 votes)

I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump followed the “advice” of this poll.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:54:10am

re: #279 Belafon

She’s more qualified than the person who will be her boss.

anyone with a record of public service is more qualified

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Joe Bacon  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:56:39am

Fireworks didn’t stop until 2AM. So much fun getting 3 hours of sleep before I got up to go to work..,

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Dr. Matt  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:57:48am

re: #282 Joe Bacon

Fireworks didn’t stop until 2AM. So much fun getting 3 hours of sleep before I got up to go to work..,

M’rerica!

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CuriousLurker  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:59:45am

*SIGH*

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 6:59:57am

“Lois Lane” has died, age 95.
latimes.com

The actress who was the first to play Superman’s love interest, Lois Lane, on screen has died. Noel Neill was 95.

Neill’s biographer Larry Ward tells the Associated Press that she died Sunday at her home in Tucson following a long illness.

Neill first took on the role as the Daily Planet reporter in the 1948 Columbia movie serial “Superman.” She would reprise the part alongside George Reeves as the Man of Steel in the 1950s TV series “The Adventures of Superman.”

Neill’s involvement with the series continued through the years. She played Lois Lane’s mother in 1978’s “Superman” and had a bit part in “Superman Returns” in 2006.

In 2010, the city of Metropolis, Ill., unveiled a statue of Lois Lane modeled after Neill.

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Skip Intro  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:01:24am

re: #282 Joe Bacon

I’m always surprised not to find bomb craters all over the neighborhood after another night of “safe and sane” fireworks. At least the ones by me ended by midnight.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:01:54am

My fellow Americans, you’re a bunch of pigs…

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Timothy Watson  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:03:59am

re: #287 FormerDirtDart

My fellow Americans, you’re a bunch of pigs…

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Imagine what the RWNJs would be saying if that had been a hip hop/rap concert.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:04:44am

re: #288 Timothy Watson

Imagine what the RWNJs would be saying if that had been a hip hop/rap concert.

regardless. thanks, Obama!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:07:28am

Jupiter Moons’ Orbital Dance Captured By Juno | Time-Lapse Video

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jeffreyw  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:14:48am

Twins!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:20:26am
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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:21:54am

Trump seems to go from finding batcrap insane stuff on the white supremacist twitter (or Infowars/Alex Jones) to direct posting/quote Tweeting. There’s no filter. There’s no checking to see if this is something that should even be posted.

It just goes up.

He just doesn’t care.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:22:12am

re: #271 FormerDirtDart

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Uh oh. The tension builds.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:29:56am

re: #293 lawhawk

He just doesn’t care.

You hit the nail on the head. To that Trump person this is another conquest. Another notch on his belt.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:33:41am

re: #267 lawhawk

So, Trump supposedly met with Sen. Joni Ernest? What’s her qualifications to be VP? What has she actually accomplished?

Breathing.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:36:44am

re: #280 Dr. Matt

Drudge VP poll:

I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump followed the “advice” of this poll.

Kind of surprised wingnut Texas governor Abbott (TCOT!!!!!) isn’t on this list.

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Jay C  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:39:26am

re: #279 Belafon

She’s more qualified than the person who will be her boss.

Pretty low bar to hurdle, there….

I’m guessing the Trump campaign is tossing Sen Ernst’s name out there for the same reasons it does most things: for the optics, based on the most simpleminded calculations of how they think the electorate will react (not the “base” for once, though, otherwise he’d be picking Ivanka, or Alex Jones). I think they imagine Ernst ticks enough boxes to be a viable candidate:

- A woman ( deflects charges of misogyny)
- A strident conservative (reassures the wingnuts)
- A sitting Senator. (respectable position -a nod to the “Establishment”)
- from Iowa ( appeals to the “heartland”)

IOW, a smarter model Sarah Palin: this time one who might be able to actually deliver a coherent speech. Still says nothing about her qualifications per se, but then again, this IS the Trump campaign …

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:39:49am

re: #293 lawhawk

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Trump seems to go from finding batcrap insane stuff on the white supremacist twitter (or Infowars/Alex Jones) to direct posting/quote Tweeting. There’s no filter. There’s no checking to see if this is something that should even be posted.

It just goes up.

He just doesn’t care.

After listening to some of the lame excuses offered by Trump’s staff, who are instructed to NEVER EVER EVER ADMIT ANY CULPABILITY OR APOLOGIZE FOR ANYTHING, EVER they insisted that no one went searching for graphics on 4chan or Stormfront, but left open the possibility that 4channers/Stormfronters sent the graphics directly to Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:39:49am

re: #267 lawhawk

So, Trump supposedly met with Sen. Joni Ernest? What’s her qualifications to be VP? What has she actually accomplished?

Then Trump can claim that he is not sexist or misogynist…

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Archangelus  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:42:54am

re: #297 Sir John Barron

Kind of surprised wingnut Texas governor Abbott (TCOT!!!!!) isn’t on this list.

Could be wrong but don’t think Abbott gets much love from Drudge, at least not that I’ve ever noticed on that piss-poor “hasn’t-been-web-designed-since-the-90s” excuse of a website…

As for Joni Ernest, I recall someone describing her once as, and I quote, “making Sarah Palin seem like Albert Einstein by comparison”… is this actually true?

Inquiring minds in dire need of popcorn supply estimates want to know!!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:46:44am

re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Then Trump can claim that he is not sexist or misogynist…

It would be interesting if he picked her and Hillary picked Sen. Warren—3 out of the 4 top spots filled by women. Hell, of the top 4 parties, half the top spots filled by women.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:48:49am

re: #302 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It would be interesting if he picked her and Hillary picked Sen. Warren—3 out of the 4 top spots filled by women. Hell, of the top 4 parties, half the top spots filled by women.

Most importantly, the presence of a woman on the ticket would do a lot to distract the discussion from Trump’s lack of experience and qualification: the whole discussion would be centered on “Hillary is X while our [token female placeholder] is not-X!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:51:11am

Trump is not going to pick Bread Bags for VP. He has already declared that VP has to be a White Man because “anything else is just pandering.” It will be John Miller or John Barron.

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:52:34am

re: #304 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Most importantly, the presence of a woman on the ticket would do a lot to distract the discussion from Trump’s lack of experience and qualification: the whole discussion would be centered on “Hillary is X while our [token female placeholder] is not-X!”

That’s even as Trump claimed he wouldn’t pick a woman. Now, picking one may be his best hope of retaining his nominee status.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:53:04am

re: #305 The Vicious Babushka

Trump is not going to pick Bread Bags for VP. He has already declared that VP has to be a White Man because “anything else is just pandering.” It will be John Miller or John Barron.

I am not good a picking candidates/winners, I was going to go with Bread Bag Lady until I read your post and realized that Trump does in fact have to consider that there will be a lot of blowback from his base supporters if he picks anything but a white male…

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 7:57:49am

FBI director Comey to give presser at 11am. No word on subject, but you can bet it’s going to have something to do with Clinton.

The Bernie/Trump dead-enders are with bated breath hoping beyond all hope that this is the date indictments come down against Clinton for something. Anything really. Or even that there’ll be room for more investigations to go into November.

Because they need anything to divert attention from the Trump shitshow.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:05:47am

re: #305 The Vicious Babushka

Trump is not going to pick Bread Bags for VP. He has already declared that VP has to be a White Man because “anything else is just pandering.” It will be John Miller or John Barron.

Whoever he picks, Mark Halperin (R-Liberal Media) will hail him or her as visionary, excellent, better than Hillary, etc.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:10:05am

re: #298 Jay C

Pretty low bar to hurdle, there….

I’m guessing the Trump campaign is tossing Sen Ernst’s name out there for the same reasons it does most things: for the optics, based on the most simpleminded calculations of how they think the electorate will react (not the “base” for once, though, otherwise he’d be picking Ivanka, or Alex Jones). I think they imagine Ernst ticks enough boxes to be a viable candidate:

- A woman ( deflects charges of misogyny)
- A strident conservative (reassures the wingnuts)
- A sitting Senator. (respectable position -a nod to the “Establishment”)
- from Iowa ( appeals to the “heartland”)

IOW, a smarter model Sarah Palin: this time one who might be able to actually deliver a coherent speech. Still says nothing about her qualifications per se, but then again, this IS the Trump campaign …

Don’t forget, she is also a Veteran. I think she was a LTC. Army

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:11:05am

No intentional wrongdoing on Secretary Clinton’s behalf. On to the next outrage.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:12:22am
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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:12:30am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:13:30am

re: #313 Jenner7

HAHA Goodman will spin this as a sure win for Bernie

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:13:56am
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Timothy Watson  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:14:04am

re: #311 GlutenFreeJesus

No intentional wrongdoing on Secretary Clinton’s behalf. On to the next outrage.

TREASON!!!! SEDITION!!1! FORM A CITIZENS GRAND JURY TO INPEACH!1!!

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Jay C  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:14:09am

re: #311 GlutenFreeJesus

No intentional wrongdoing on Secretary Clinton’s behalf. On to the next outrage.

Beg to differ: this finding WILL be considered “the next outrage” by the wingnut media…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:14:31am
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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:14:50am

From the horse’s mouth.
But hey, I thought Hitler was a leftist!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:15:20am

re: #314 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

HAHA Goodman will spin this as a sure win for Bernie

Isn’t it about time that HAHA Goodman got on the TrumpTrain? I know he wants to.

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:16:21am

re: #314 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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blueraven  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:16:37am

FBI statement:

Do not recommend prosecution.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:17:16am

BOOM!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:17:27am

re: #322 blueraven

FBI statement:

Do not recommend prosecution.

Nothing to see here. Move along, now.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:17:50am

Phew.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:18:09am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:18:17am

re: #319 Nyet

From the horse’s mouth.
But hey, I thought Hitler was a leftist!

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I know who everybody is except the guy on the left—the Soup Nazi?

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:18:33am

re: #325 Jenner7

Phew.

Despite the fact that this was to be expected, I share your phew.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:19:00am

No HA HA Goodone tweets yet :((

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:19:34am

re: #327 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Gavin McInnes.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:19:56am

re: #330 Nyet

Gavin McInnes.

Thx.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:20:23am

Well, now we get to see how there will be three sides to this story. And the truth will get the least coverage.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:20:28am

re: #329 Nyet

No HA HA Goodone tweets yet :((

INDICTMENTS COMING SOON!!!!

INDICTMENTS COMING SOON!!!!

INDICTMENTS COMING SOON!!!!

FBI SOURCES CONFIRM! INDICTMENTS SOON!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:20:36am

Wingnut meltdowns commence

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Tigger2  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:20:44am

Did you hear that? The whole world just gave a big sigh of relief that no charges will be filed against Hillary. NO TRUMP.

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blueraven  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:20:54am
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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:21:07am

re: #326 Jenner7

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Archangelus  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:21:13am

Hello darkness my old friend…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:21:19am

Li’l Whiplash has teh sads==>

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:21:27am

Gavin McInnes is every bit as bad as Roosh and the rest of the MRA crowd. Level 5 media troll.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:21:29am

Only good thing to come of this is, hopefully, the State Department fixed the email issues with SOS and it’s security. Because their previous system sucked. That much was obvious. From Powell, to Rice, and ending with Clinton. It’s sad that she had to be made a scapegoat in their inadequacies.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:22:28am

re: #334 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnut meltdowns commence

Wow, allahpundit sure has a potty mouth.

Lots of Troubled Hearts today are Troubled.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:23:44am

re: #331 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Thx.

Ben Garrison, the name just above Hitler’s mug, is the RWNJ cartoonist who’s a Trump fanboy.

He also charged Rage Furby and Pax Dickinson $500 for a lame cartoon.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:23:58am

Can’t get enough of those HA Goodone gifs. Keep’em coming, folks! :D

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blueraven  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:24:15am

Fox News in meltdown mode.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:24:15am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:24:36am

re: #180 Belafon

If dogs/cats could talk
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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:24:49am

re: #343 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Ben Garrison, the name just above Hitler’s mug, is the RWNJ cartoonist who’s a Trump fanboy.

He also charged Rage Furby and Pax Dickinson $500 for a lame cartoon.

Putting him to the right of Hitler is an internal altright joke - they always change his wacky cartoons into horribly antisemitic versions.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:25:14am

re: #340 SoundGuy 2016

Gavin McInnes is every bit as bad as Roosh and the rest of the MRA crowd. Level 5 media troll.

Can’t stand the “racist hipster cynic” persona.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:25:20am

re: #342 Sir John Barron

Lots of Troubled Hearts Heads today are Troubled.

FTFY

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:26:09am
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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:26:23am

That one word…careless…will be heard over and over and over again.

Careless Clinton…etc. Ugh.

Overall though, I would say about 50% of what goes on in our government is careless.

And then you have careless like a war in Iraq which will never be as careless as Benghazi. Or you could say not having national health insurances is careless as is 60 attempts to overturn what we have gained in healthcare coverage.

And all of this adds up to why so many people care less about government.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:26:27am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:26:39am

re: #339 The Vicious Babushka

1. Hillary lied, sent classified info on server;
2. Those emails were likely hacked by our enemies;
3. No prosecution, because ehhhhhh

— Ben Shapiro

1. Hillary lied, sent classified info on server;

Sent classified info to who?

2. Those emails were likely hacked by our enemies;

“likely”

3. No prosecution, because ehhhhhh

Actually, Ben, no prosecution because your first two points are pretty meh.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:26:50am

re: #340 SoundGuy 2016

Gavin McInnes is every bit as bad as Roosh and the rest of the MRA crowd. Level 5 media troll.

McInnes gave Rage Furby some “airtime” on his podcast radio show a couple of weeks ago. It’s about the only airtime Chuck can get nowadays.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:27:14am

re: #348 Nyet

Putting him to the right of Hitler is an internal altright joke - they always change his wacky cartoons into horribly antisemitic versions.

Presumably he doesn’t mind.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:27:14am

re: #353 The Vicious Babushka

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You can already the splashes of… wrath.

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dharmamark  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:27:23am

re: #352 ObserverArt

That one word…careless…will be heard over and over and over again.

Careless Clinton…etc. Ugh.

Overall though, I would say about 50% of what goes on in our government is careless.

And then you have careless like a war in Iraq which will never be as careless as Benghazi. Or you could say not having national health insurances is careless as is 60 attempts to overturn what we have gained in healthcare coverage.

And all of this adds up to why so many people care less about government.

You can add business to that list - careless handling of emails and data… It’s why we have auditors.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:27:44am

I missed the part where Comey said she lied.

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ChuckJager95  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:27:47am
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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:27:50am

re: #356 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Presumably he doesn’t mind.

I think he complained about that in the past.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:27:58am

re: #180 Belafon

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blueraven  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:28:11am

re: #344 Nyet

Can’t get enough of those HA Goodone gifs. Keep’em coming, folks! :D

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:28:14am

re: #347 Eric The Fruit Bat

crying

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:30:06am

re: #347 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Oh man, that got my emotions. I don’t even have a pet, but I take care of some for my friends and I loves them like they are my own and one passed a few months ago, and the other is nearing that day. Sniff.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:30:10am

I hope HAHAGOODONEAUTHOR has no guns and/or nobody is around at the moment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:30:31am

I think all the wingnuts missed the part in all the relevant laws where it said, “Intentional”.

But then, their whole thing was that HRC MUST BE GUILTY!!! so the fact that she didn’t actually violate the actual law is irrelevant.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:30:54am

re: #335 Tigger2

Did you hear that? The whole world just gave a big sigh of relief that no charges will be filed against Hillary. NO TRUMP.

The American media heaved a sign of disappointment, a Hillary indictment/looming conviction would give new like to what is shaping up to be a beating-a-dead-horserace

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:31:25am

re: #347 Eric The Fruit Bat

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If I could cry, I’d be a puddle of tears.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:32:03am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:32:16am

It’s about time for Reince Peibus to tweet out something about HRC being under FBI investigation, etc.

//

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:33:43am

People have carelessly handled classified info since they started classifying info. Whether they were folders left on restaurant tables, car seats, unlocked briefcases, whatever. So there’s ample precedent for not prosecuting. You simply can’t go from careless breach of handling to willful violation of the law. So Clinton got the wrist slap she deserved, and the Republicans can probably still keep milking this anyway and fold it neatly into their perpetual persecution pipeline.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:33:49am

re: #333 Sir John Barron

INDICTMENTS COMING SOON!!!!

INDICTMENTS COMING SOON!!!!

INDICTMENTS COMING SOON!!!!

FBI SOURCES CONFIRM! INDICTMENTS SOON!!!!

Mentioning HA HA reminds me of the very apropos quote from Mr. Pierce the other day from The 18th Brumaire of Louis Napoleon:

On the other hand, proletarian revolutions, like those of the nineteenth century, constantly criticize themselves, constantly interrupt themselves in their own course, return to the apparently accomplished, in order to begin anew; they deride with cruel thoroughness the half-measures, weaknesses, and paltriness of their first attempts, seem to throw down their opponents only so the latter may draw new strength from the earth and rise before them again more gigantic than ever, recoil constantly from the indefinite colossalness of their own goals - until a situation is created which makes all turning back impossible…

Plus ça change….

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:33:51am

And Andrea Mitchell is unloading now saying this is a big political hit because Hillary didn’t come out of this clean and she was wrong on her main stance that no secure emails came through the system. She says it is a harsh criticism of Clinton.

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Jay C  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:34:37am

re: #342 Sir John Barron

Lots of Troubled Hearts today are Troubled.

More like Troubled Anuses, but who’s counting???

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:35:03am

re: #374 ObserverArt

And Andrea Mitchell is unloading now saying this is a big political hit because Hillary didn’t come out of this clean and she was wrong on her main stance that no secure emails came through the system. She says it is a harsh criticism of Clinton.

Oh, OK, Andrea.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:35:14am

re: #374 ObserverArt

And Andrea Mitchell is unloading now saying this is a big political hit because Hillary didn’t come out of this clean and she was wrong on her main stance that no secure emails came through the system. She says it is a harsh criticism of Clinton.

It is a harsh criticism of her methods. If you think it disqualifies her from serving as Chief Executive, I can only beg you to consider the experience, credentials and qualifications of her opponent…

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Archangelus  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:35:32am

re: #371 Sir John Barron

It’s about time for Reince Peibus to tweet out something about HRC being under FBI investigation, etc.

//

Rinse can’t be reached for comments - he’s too busy clearing what’s left of his hard liquor cabinet and making Sterling Archer seem like a teetotaler by comparison….

I’d use sarc tags, but it’s funny because it’s most likely true.

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:35:40am

This is what happens when media outlets don’t provide sufficient background on what was going on with these emails in the first place. Right wing outlets simply ginned up outrageous outrage stoking the wishful thinking that indictments would be forthcoming.

Reality is that while the email handling was poor, there was no crime committed. This wasn’t Petraeus handing off classified data to his mistress. This was email that was later classified being maintained on a private server that was itself not a crime. The NARA problems were that the emails weren’t being preserved for posterity, not that there was a crime involved here.

Handling emails that are not classified at the time of creation, but which later become classified isn’t criminal. The classification process makes that much clear.

Kurt Eichenwald had the lowdown on how this all works a while back. It was never a crime here. It was a nothingburger from the outset, but the GOP and Bernie bros were determined to treat it as high crimes and treasonous.

The FBI did their thing - and no crimes. No indictments. Nothing but a rebuke of poor State Department policies that must be strengthened to conform with NARA and proper practices in other agencies.

And while this is going on, Gov. Christie’s emails have gone missing re: Bridgegate, potentially hindering active investigations. Trump’s currently under investigation for fraud and his taxes remain subject to audits in multiple years (claiming so he can’t/wont release his returns), and there’s even a sex assault suit filed against him.

But these emails are the only thing that matters.

GOP priorities - destroying Clinton and Democrats generally. Everything else doesn’t matter. Not providing for the general welfare. Not properly funding government operations (General Welfare clause anyone?!). Nothing. Just corrosive and destructive politics of personal destruction.

It’s the only thing the GOP knows how to do. And it’s now Trump’s turn to turn that both outwards towards Clinton and inwards on the GOP itself.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:35:40am

DudeBro-ette Never Hiller having sadz:

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:36:13am

I’m gonna stay off Twitter for a couple of days, until the dust settles somewhat from the FBI announcement. I didn’t see any HAHA Goodman tweets, but Shaun King is holding up his end of the never-Hillary platform.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:36:20am
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Dave In Austin  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:36:49am

re: #180 Belafon

{{{{Belafon}}} …<<Tears>>

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:37:13am
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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:38:02am

It’s all over but the piss and vinegar.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:38:14am

I’m waiting for Trump to start using the following:
“This country is getting taken advantage of by China and Iran. You wouldn’t believe the things they’re telling me during my intelligence briefings. I’d like to tell you more but I’m not careless with the information they tell me.”
Of course whoever is briefing him isn’t going to be able to deny any of it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:38:36am

BUTTHURTZ INCOMING

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plansbandc  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:39:16am

(((((Belafon)))))

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:39:54am
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danarchy  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:42:03am

re: #372 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

People have carelessly handled classified info since they started classifying info. Whether they were folders left on restaurant tables, car seats, unlocked briefcases, whatever. So there’s ample precedent for not prosecuting. You simply can’t go from careless breach of handling to willful violation of the law. So Clinton got the wrist slap she deserved, and the Republicans can probably still keep milking this anyway and fold it neatly into their perpetual persecution pipeline.

The way it is going to be spun is that he said individuals in similar situations would face administrative or security sanctions, meaning they would likely be fired or lose security clearance and do you really want to elect someone who couldn’t even be hired as a bureaucrat because they couldn’t pass the security checks!!!!11!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:42:13am

Hillary using official State Department servers wouldn’t have been a good idea either.

Sources: State Dept. hack the ‘worst ever’

When she was no longer SoS. But are we hearing anything about this? Nope.

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ChuckJager95  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:42:24am
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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:44:01am

But hey, I thought progressives voting for Trump were copulating rodents!//

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Timothy Watson  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:44:11am

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

BUTTHURTZ INCOMING

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How did Shapiro manage to pass law school? I really need to see some transcripts.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:45:44am

re: #393 Nyet

They only like the law when it does what they want.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:46:20am

re: #394 Timothy Watson

How did Shapiro manage to pass law school? I really need to see some transcripts.

You noticed what I noticed, too. He picks two words out of a statute and claims HRC is a criminal.

I’m not sure Ben practices law for a living, which would be a good thing for any potential clients.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:46:37am

re: #393 Nyet

And gee, just as I said, her main reason is non-interventionism (AKA giveupism).

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:46:47am

re: #394 Timothy Watson

He did it the old fashioned way. Mummy and Daddy bought it for him. /half

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:47:11am

I loved Cassandra after following in the early days of BLM. She’s dead to me now.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:47:26am

re: #390 danarchy

The way it is going to be spun is that he said individuals in similar situations would face administrative or security sanctions, meaning they would likely be fired or lose security clearance and do you really want to elect someone who couldn’t even be hired as a bureaucrat because they couldn’t pass the security checks!!!!11!!

Like Powell or Rice.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:49:43am

re: #393 Nyet

But hey, I thought progressives voting for Trump were copulating rodents!//

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How poop-eating stupid do you have to be to give money to a billionaire who is so very, very, very rich?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:50:11am

re: #401 The Vicious Babushka

How poop-eating stupid do you have to be to give money to a billionaire who is so very, very, very rich?

Answer: Very Poop-eating Stupid.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:50:52am

Totes Poop Eating Stupid.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:51:10am
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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:51:33am

Shithead is as shithead does.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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ChuckJager95  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:51:56am
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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:52:05am

re: #401 The Vicious Babushka

How poop-eating stupid do you have to be to give money to a billionaire who is so very, very, very rich?

Cassandra-Fairbanks-stupid.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:52:27am

re: #393 Nyet

All the hillbitches in my mentions right now will make donating to trump a million times more satisfying.
— Cassandra Fairbanks

Have fun setting your money on fire.

Who is this Troubled Heart?

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:52:36am

CassandraPoopRules

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Timothy Watson  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:52:38am

re: #404 The Vicious Babushka

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REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT NOW CONSPIRING WITH HILLIBEAST AND OBUMMER TO STOP TRUMP1!1!!

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:54:20am
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stpaulbear  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:54:36am

re: #393 Nyet

Let’s see the screen shot saying “Thank you for your contribution”. An incomplete donation form is bullshit proof that she actually contributed.

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Tigger2  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:55:37am

re: #405 Nyet

Shithead is as shithead does.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:55:41am

re: #404 The Vicious Babushka

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:55:54am

re: #412 stpaulbear

Let’s see the screen shot saying “Thank you for your contribution”. An incomplete donation form is bullshit proof.

None of us would be able to recognize if it’s fake though. (Hopefully ;).

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:56:08am

This will hurt her, slightly. So it’s good the results came out already. She has the chops to come out of this just fine. And she’s got the back of Obama, Biden, Michelle, and Warren.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:56:30am

This elections cycle has been very illuminating.

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ChuckJager95  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:56:32am
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:56:42am

re: #390 danarchy

I agree with you, and I hate to say it, but that spin has merit. If she weren’t a political appointee, she would probably lose her job. There really isn’t a total vindication here, but all it does is end the FBI’s involvement. I argued yesterday that what she did was a stupid thing to do for somebody who wanted to run for President because it creates a needless distraction that will run the length of the campaign, and it will run all through the summer. Every day when Trump does something stupid, this will come up and dilute the attention Trump should be getting.

I’ll make this comparison with Chris Christie’s Bridgegate. Shutting down the GW Bridge was a stupid thing to do. Everybody assumes he was behind it, including me. Christie’s defense is that rogue staffers must have done it. The best outcome for him is that he was a careless boss who didn’t manage his staff. (The worst for him of course is a smoking gun directly linking him to the closure). That thing has dogged him (rightfully), and has been a distraction since the story broke. Will Christie go to jail over this? No. Has he paid a tremendous political price, of course.
What I would call the common link between the two is the sense of entitlement the two eshibited in that they felt they could do things the way the wanted rather than the way they should have been done.
** Naturally somebody’s going to leap to the conclusion that this is a MBF argument or that I am equating Clinton and Christie. If you actually read the comparison I am not comparing the people but I am comparing the situations.

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:56:44am

re: #405 Nyet

Who?!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:57:16am

re: #420 lawhawk

Who?!

RON PAUL

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:57:22am

re: #391 GlutenFreeJesus

That isn’t a justification for using a private server.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:57:38am

re: #416 Jenner7

No time to cry over yesteryear’s snow, and good that it happens now, before the convention. In a month or two all will be like “meh”.

Trumps’s scandals though…

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:58:04am

Kurt Eichenwald’s still not impressed. Still not an email kerfuffle:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:58:56am

re: #422 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Wah!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:58:58am

re: #393 Nyet

But hey, I thought progressives voting for Trump were copulating rodents!//

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She hates Hillary so much it’s mental.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:59:18am

Li’l Whiplash’s Twitter feed is full of delicious wingnut tears.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:59:33am

re: #426 Stanley Sea

She hates Hillary so much it’s mental.

Many of them do.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:59:49am

re: #422 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

That isn’t a justification for using a private server.

It’s over. Move on.

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Archangelus  Jul 5, 2016 • 8:59:51am

re: #422 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

That isn’t a justification for using a private server.

Private servers can and are MORE secure than government ones.

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:00:11am

re: #422 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

That isn’t a justification for using a private server.

Still not a crime. Not even a kerfuffle. But go ahead and try and find wrongdoing or criminality where none exists.

Policies may have changed after she was in office, but that doesn’t change that what she did while in office didn’t rise to being a crime.

Not adhering to NARA isn’t a crime.

Again, read Eichenwald’s reporting.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:00:27am

re: #427 The Vicious Babushka

He is cherry picking to prove his point.

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Lidane  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:01:13am

Today’s #NeverTrump fantasy:

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Tigger2  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:01:18am
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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:01:24am

re: #422 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

That isn’t a justification for using a private server.

Yawn.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:02:24am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:03:08am

re: #436 Nyet

That’ll show us all.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:03:08am

Sociopathic bros like Cassandra (yes, she’s a bro) are in tears? Good day.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:03:22am

re: #436 Nyet

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Someone’s mad she didn’t get her pony unicorn.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:03:39am

re: #436 Nyet

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:03:43am

re: #436 Nyet

I would like to know what brand of airplane glue she is sniffing. I will be sure to avoid it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:03:47am

re: #436 Nyet

Maybe she’ll hold her breath till she turns blue, too.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:04:16am

re: #430 Archangelus

First of all, she never used that a a justification in the first place. It’s silly to use it now. Second of all, how do you know it was never hacked? If this line of discussion ever gets steam, it will be yet another distraction that the Republicans so desperately need.
I’ve never argued that she broke the law. My argument is that she made a yuuge mistake and as a lifelong politician, she should have known better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:04:29am

re: #439 Timothy Watson

Someone’s mad she didn’t get her pony unicorn brown uniform.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:04:30am

re: #442 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

We should be that lucky.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:04:31am

re: #436 Nyet

Bye now!

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:05:50am

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ah yes. The BernieOrBust symbol should be a brown unicorn.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:06:07am

i hate this election

the cockroaches are having a field day and the polls are too close

i dont want to live in cockroach america

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:06:30am

Remember all the wingnuts whining about garbage left behind by Occupy protesters? Wonder what they’ll say about a Kenny Chesney concert.

cbsnews.com

“Them just being good ole ‘Mericans!!!”

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:07:52am

It’s not like his boss lied about going into Iraq or outed a CIA agent. Oh wait…

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:07:58am

gop will “correct” anything they dont like about the email announcement by lying about it

of course theyve already started

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:08:06am

re: #438 Nyet

Sociopathic bros like Cassandra (yes, she’s a bro) are in tears? Good day.

KEEP HER OFF MY SCREEN

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:08:17am

OK, but I’m still waiting for the Überbro to wake up (if he’s still alive).

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:08:41am

re: #431 lawhawk

I’ll refer to NPR’s reporting. The way Clinton handled her records is a violation. The guidelines on preserving records were in effect at the time she took office. It isn’t a crime, but you can’t say she did nothing wrong.
And for the millionth time, I’ll say this was never a law and order issue. It’s a political issue, and anybody who thinks it isn’t fair is childish. Politics isn’t fair. The media isn’t fair. They never were. Clinton is a lifelong pro and should have known better. She brought this one on herself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:09:21am

dead horse is still dead…

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:09:46am

For your viewing pleasure, if you like that kind of thing.

caucus99percent.com

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:09:56am

re: #450 Jenner7

If Powell wants to run for President, you can bet your ass that will come back to life.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:10:07am

re: #436 Nyet

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Ahh Twitter…where you can display a temper tantrum again and again.

And again and again.

Like everyone wants to see and hear it.

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plansbandc  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:10:33am

re: #455 Backwoods_Sleuth

And still it gets beaten again and again.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:10:44am

re: #457 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

If Powell wants to run for President, you can bet your ass that will come back to life.

Pretty sure Colin Powell has no desire to run for office.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:10:50am

re: #454 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Family Guy - OMG, WHO THE HELL CARES! (HD)

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:10:59am

re: #458 ObserverArt

Ahh Twitter…where you can display a temper tantrum again and again.

And again and again.

Like everyone wants to see and hear it.

I get more than enough Twitter here. I ain’t joining.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:11:15am

re: #457 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Riiiiight.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:11:50am

re: #460 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And that’s why nobody’s bothering to make a fuss over the way he handled his records.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:13:05am

re: #455 Backwoods_Sleuth

dead horse is still dead…

But there are people still around to smell it.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:13:12am
Disgusting
The smugness of the Hilbots will now become completely unbearable.

Yes, it will. To the heel, busters! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:13:33am

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

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Whack-A-Mole  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:13:53am

re: #152 FormerDirtDart

Pumpkinhead

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:14:01am

re: #457 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

So you admit this BS with Hillary is only a thing because she’s running for President… not that she’s actually done anything illegal. Yeah. Got it.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:14:11am

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:14:41am

Bernie who???

Seriously, no one cares. His endorsement or non endorsement will not matter anymore.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:15:07am

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

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As I said yesterday, there’s something funny about a man who got a million dollar loan from his Dad in the mid 70’s complaining about a rigged system. As for Bernie. If he wants to continuing embarrassing himself and taking other people’s money, that’s his choice but it only makes him look like more of an ass.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:15:15am

Paul Ryan responded

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:15:43am

re: #471 Jenner7

Bernie who???

Seriously, no one cares. His endorsement or non endorsement will not matter anymore.

Everybody reasonable is already with her.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:15:44am

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

For that Trump person it is sour grapes. For Sen Sanders it is denial.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:16:32am

re: #473 Stanley Sea

Paul Ryan responded

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Gee it only took him so long.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:16:34am

re: #461 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Somebody obviously cares or we wouldn’t be hearing about it all the time. Somebody cares because everytime Trump screws up, he brings up the FBI and Hillary. You can scream all you want about this nothingburger, but that doesn’t make it one. Like I said it’s going to dog her all through the summer, and she only has herself to blame. And like I said above in my #386, Trump can still play it to his advantage.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:17:04am

re: #464 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

And that’s why nobody’s bothering to make a fuss over the way he handled his records.

He’s not a Clinton. And not a Democrat.

Meanwhile, the other front-runner candidate is involved in a class-action lawsuit and is accused of statutory rape. Somehow, there is a noticeable lack of outrage, or even concern, about those legal issues.

Refer to my first statement.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:17:51am

re: #469 GlutenFreeJesus

So you admit this BS with Hillary is only a thing because she’s running for President… not that she’s actually done anything illegal. Yeah. Got it.

I’ve been saying that all along! This is a political screw-up and she only has herself to blame.

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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:17:59am

OK, that’s underwhelming. Cassandra’s been more entertaining.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:18:03am
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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:18:26am

Hey everybody…I am sure you don’t want to miss this.

Andrea Mitchell will be having comments from Ben Carson right after this message.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:18:58am

re: #478 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh but those are just witch hunts against him!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:19:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:19:27am
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Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:19:41am

Everybody, write “Delete your account” to Goodman.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:19:44am

re: #479 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I’ve been saying that all along! This is a political screw-up and she only has herself to blame.

She may have been acting on the advice of IT professionals and Department of State staff. It’s not like Cabinet-level officials are all up to speed on tech issues.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:21:05am

re: #480 Nyet

OK, that’s underwhelming. Cassandra’s been more entertaining.

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You’re not vindicated at all dumbass. You were saying she was going to be indictated but I guess I should give him some grudging credit for accepting the decision rather than claiming he knows better than the FBI like many a wingnut on Twitter is doing.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:21:24am

re: #478 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I see plenty of coverage about Trump’s fraud every day. As far as the rape, I have seen some but I haven’t read it. I have also seen some crap linking Bill Clinton to some child trafficking stuff. I don’t know if both stories are in the same league. If either of them get rolling, then I would expect to hear more.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:21:46am

re: #485 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Now he’s going to become a staunch liberal Democrat.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:21:53am

Yes, omg, please put up a banner that says “extremely careless”. lol

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withak  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:22:01am

re: #180 Belafon

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:22:10am
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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:22:22am

Chiggy killer knows:

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:22:51am

re: #180 Belafon

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stpaulbear  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:23:07am

re: #471 Jenner7

Bernie who???

Seriously, no one cares. His endorsement or non endorsement will not matter anymore.

Just as a reminder, the ‘Bernie Or Bust 2016’ Feel The Bern 2016 posters that were on sale for 50% off as an Amazon Lightning Deal yesterday had exactly 0% claimed.

(corrected)

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:23:30am

re: #473 Stanley Sea

Nothing like standing up a couple of days afterwards to say, yeah, it doesn’t have a place in campaign.

Still backing Trump though.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:23:38am

re: #497 stpaulbear

Just as a reminder, the ‘Bernie Or Bust 2016’ posters that were on sale for 50% off as an Amazon Lightning Deal yesterday had exactly 0% claimed.

I should get one of those for ironic reasons.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:23:49am

Carson: In business you don’t promote someone that is careless, you provide remedial training.

Let’s send Hillary to IT school to learn about email security.

And then she can run for President…or something.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:23:57am

re: #498 lawhawk

Nothing like standing up a couple of days afterwards to say, yeah, it doesn’t have a place in campaign.

Still backing Trump though.

Exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:24:53am

re: #500 ObserverArt

Carson: In business you don’t promote someone that is careless, you provide remedial training.

Let’s send Hillary to IT school to learn about email security.

And then she can run for President…or something.

Says the man backing the most unqualified presidential candidate ever.

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dharmamark  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:24:56am

re: #500 ObserverArt

Carson: In business you don’t promote someone that is careless, you provide remedial training.

Let’s send Hillary to IT school to learn about email security.

And then she can run for President…or something.

He’s obviously never worked in a corporation…

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Timothy Watson  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:25:50am

re: #494 lawhawk

Chiggy killer knows:

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As a 24 fan, love me some James Morrison.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:25:53am

re: #503 dharmamark

He’s obviously never worked in a corporation…

No kidding. No shock that Carson is as clueless about the business world as he is the political one.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:26:31am

A SERIES OF TUBES

507
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:28:01am

re: #497 stpaulbear

I did see this though… for $6.66. lol

amazon.com

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b_sharp  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:29:30am

Here’s the FBI statement.

fbi.gov

It looks like there was classified (at the time of being sent/received) information on her servers.

“From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent.”

That knowledge has to be tempered by the recognition that much of those were not marked as classified when sent.

Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.

Emphasis mine.

It also looks like Bennie changed ‘possible’ to ‘likely’ when talking about intrusion.
Typical wingnut method of lying.

“With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain, in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked. But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence. We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial e-mail accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal e-mail extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related e-mails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail account.”

Emphasis mine.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:29:57am

re: #487 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh come on, stop making excuses. She says she used it for convenience. Any IT pro at the time would have shown her what she could have done. Or she could have used two devices to avoid mingling personal and professional stuff.

510
Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:31:04am

re: #509 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Oh come on, stop making excuses. She says she used it for convenience. Any IT pro at the time would have shown her what she could have done. Or she could have used two devices to avoid mingling personal and professional stuff.

Dude. Let it go.

511
Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:31:22am
512
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:32:20am

re: #511 Nyet

Oh, I am definitely vindicated after today. TODAY PROVES GROSS NEGLIGENCE. Trust me, I don’t need indictments to know HRC deserved them

and we don’t need proof to maintain that you enjoy sex with goats

513
Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:32:32am
514
HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:32:53am

re: #511 Nyet

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He needs help. No amount of whining is going to get him a Bernie pony.

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stpaulbear  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:33:02am

re: #499 HappyWarrior

I should get one of those for ironic reasons.

The customer reviews were pretty funny.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:34:31am

re: #489 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I see plenty of coverage about Trump’s fraud every day. As far as the rape, I have seen some but I haven’t read it. I have also seen some crap linking Bill Clinton to some child trafficking stuff. I don’t know if both stories are in the same league. If either of them get rolling, then I would expect to hear more.

Coverage, sure, but none of the foaming-at-the-mouth outrage and *concern* over HRC’s email server. You might take the time to read up on the Trump rape accusation. As for the Bill Clinton stuff, that’s a new one on me.

Here’s my point, which I’m not sure you’re getting. The right wing is adamantly opposed to any Clinton — or Democrat — being in the White House again. For some reason — I dunno, maybe because she’s a woman (just thinking out loud here) — they really really hate Hillary. There is an entire RWNJ media machine that manufactures and amplifies stories intended to discredit the Clintons. Radio hosts, bloggers, pundits, politicians, Tea Partiers — they all repeat the same fake outrages over and over again, making mountains out of molehills. THAT’S why we’ve heard about Benghazi and email-gate virtually non-stop for fucking YEARS now.

There is no comparable left wing media machine, despite what the right wing says. So, you don’t have the same daily volcano of outrage about Trump’s bankruptcies, his cheating of business partners, investors, clients and workers, his alleged sexual escapades, etc.

You really need to understand these basic facts before you go off on HRC making “political blunders.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:35:11am

Rio’s Newest Problem: ‘Super Bacteria’ in the Water
And a nasty oil slick in Guanabara Bay, right where sailors are set to compete

In this June 1, 2015, file photo, a discarded sofa litters the shore of Guanabara Bay in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. (AP Photo/Silvia Izquierdo, File)
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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:35:15am

re: #515 stpaulbear

The customer reviews were pretty funny.

Heh yeah I do see that. I cannot believe he still hasn’t dropped out. Tomorrow’s going to be a month since California. I think he may genuinely have some mental issues going on. I really do.

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stpaulbear  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:36:51am

re: #507 GlutenFreeJesus

I did see this though… for $6.66. lol

amazon.com

Plus $7.99 for shipping! Grift!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:36:59am

MrBWS just called from downtown Covington, KY.
There were two gunshots while we were talking.
He’s bailing out of the neighborhood right now.

O_o

521
HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:37:50am

re: #519 stpaulbear

Plus $7.99 for shipping! Grift!!

The shipping costs more than the actual product. WTH.

522
PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:38:42am

re: #520 Backwoods_Sleuth

I do not blame him. I hope he is safe.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:39:16am

re: #510 Nyet

You’re talking to the wrong guy. The Republicans are going to keep this going all summer. Do you even understand the point I’m making? It isn’t that hard. I’ll type slower.
1. Clinton was foolish to use a private email server to conduct official business. There was no compelling reason for her to use it. In her own words, she did it for convenience. She even acknowledges it was a mistake.
2. Because of that, Clinton is paying a political price: this is a distraction everytime Trump does something stupid. She is a veteran of at least 25 years of hardball politics. She should have known this would be the result.
Lots of people act like I’m calling her a criminal. I’m not. I’m saying she did something stupid. Also, lots of people can’t bring themselves to accept that all the email shit you’re hearing is Clinton’s own fault.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:39:28am

re: #509 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Oh come on, stop making excuses. She says she used it for convenience. Any IT pro at the time would have shown her what she could have done. Or she could have used two devices to avoid mingling personal and professional stuff.

I’m not making excuses. I’m pointing out she was likely working under the guidance of tech people around her. And, as the FBI has pointed out, she did nothing criminal. Careless is not the same as deliberate.

And to echo Sergey, you need to drop this topic. I am.

525
b_sharp  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:39:29am

re: #517 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Rio’s Newest Problem: ‘Super Bacteria’ in the Water
And a nasty oil slick in Guanabara Bay, right where sailors are set to compete

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Why are they showing a picture from a year ago?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:39:35am

re: #489 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Let’s see how Trump handles 11 hours of straight questioning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:39:43am

re: #522 PhillyPretzel

I do not blame him. I hope he is safe.

He thought the first one could have been a firecracker.
Second one definitely was a gunshot, and a lot closer.

528
Tigger2  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:40:02am

I have been blocking berniebros left and right on twitter.

529
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:40:10am

re: #525 Double Dumbass

Because it’s probably a lot worse now and cameras would melt if in the vicinity.

530
b_sharp  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:41:32am

How many hangovers at LGF?

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:41:37am

I know what they’re saying as they take off….



Hail Hydra.

///// (as if you needed the sarc tags to know)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:41:40am

re: #529 GlutenFreeJesus

Because it’s probably a lot worse now and cameras would melt if in the vicinity.

Newer photos would probably include those body parts that are showing up now…

533
Barefoot Grin  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:41:42am

re: #517 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Rio’s Newest Problem: ‘Super Bacteria’ in the Water
And a nasty oil slick in Guanabara Bay, right where sailors are set to compete

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Russian track and field athletes might be the luckiest of all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:41:46am

re: #525 Double Dumbass

Why are they showing a picture from a year ago?

Keep in mind that because of the emphasis on new Olympic construction, the already ailing infrastructure is going to be in an even more dilapidated state…mostly for the natives, but also for those who are still brave enough to risk attending the games from abroad.

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Jenner7  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:42:22am

re: #523 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

They’ve been harping about Benghazi for years and the emails for a year now. The point is, it hasn’t worked then (she is the presumptive nominee) and it won’t work now (FBI says she didn’t break law).

536
Eventual Carrion  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:43:11am

re: #422 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

That isn’t a justification for using a private server.

So what would she have been accused of doing if she had come in and totally changed the SOP of the SoS office? What specifically was she doing differently than the previous SoS’s?

537
blueraven  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:43:32am

re: #479 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I’ve been saying that all along! This is a political screw-up and she only has herself to blame.

Obviously this was a political fuck up. We all know that. Witness over a year of controversy. But that is not what today is all about. Today is about the fact that the FBI determined there was nothing criminal, and no gross negligence even as careless mistakes were made.

So all this talk of “Crooked Hillary” and “she needs to be in jail” by RWNJ is just dumb. They will keep doing it, but it will have less power and if they keep it up, could backfire. Comey is considered a very fair player by almost everyone.

538
lawhawk  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:44:44am

re: #517 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Rio Games may rival Sochi in terms of bad outcomes, not that it will change how the host cities are selected and venues are prepared in a timely fashion.

Still think the Games should have permanent homes, instead of rotating among cities that have to build infrastructure and venues that can quickly fall into disuse and disrepair - money that could go to other and better uses.

Greece should be permanent home to Summer Games. Winter Games should be in Switzerland permanently.

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fern01  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:45:35am

re: #523 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Lots of people act like I’m calling her a criminal. I’m not. I’m saying she did something stupid. Also, lots of people can’t bring themselves to accept that all the email shit you’re hearing is Clinton’s own fault.

In hindsight she may have done something stupid. At the time it was convenient, useful, private and had been done by her 2 GOP predecessors. It wasn’t stupid seen as stupid in 2009.

540
Jebediah, RBG  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:47:53am

re: #94 sagehen

Naw, they’re just getting them from Google Jupiter.

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Jay C  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:47:59am

re: #454 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

And for the millionth time, I’ll say this was never a law and order issue. It’s a political issue, and anybody who thinks it isn’t fair is childish. Politics isn’t fair. The media isn’t fair. They never were.

Which (correct) point you make also shows why “emailgate” (or whatever imbecilic nickname gets attached to this non-scandal) is probably NOT going to be a significant factor in the 2016 election.

Yeah, you’re right that this is a political issue: but for at least a year, a wide assortment of anti-Hillary-Clinton forces (Congressional Republicans, GOP candidates, wingnuts in general, diehard Berniebots, etc.) have attempted to turn it into a legal issue; operating on the assumption - which has been implicit in a documented shit-ton of “Hillary for Prison” BS since her campaign started - that there was something -anything!! - actually criminal about then-Sec. Clinton’s handling of DoS emails, and thus, the breathless anticipation of INDICTMENTS!!1!!1 which has polluted our political discourse for months.

Director Comey’s final word today on the FBI investigation at least puts a stake in that particular avenue of attack, and returns “emailgate” to where it belongs: the category of bullshit political scandal-mongering, on a par with Vincent Foster CTs, or the rest of the deranged Clinton-bashing nonsense we’ve had to listen to for 20+ years. No, Hillary did not come out looking good (though given the rabid nature of today’s political media, it’s hard to see exactly WHAT could): but it’s the kind of “not good” that can be spun and/or dismissed. Unlike criminal charges.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:48:11am

re: #538 lawhawk

The Rio Games may rival Sochi in terms of bad outcomes, not that it will change how the host cities are selected and venues are prepared in a timely fashion.

Still think the Games should have permanent homes, instead of rotating among cities that have to build infrastructure and venues that can quickly fall into disuse and disrepair - money that could go to other and better uses.

Greece should be permanent home to Summer Games. Winter Games should be in Switzerland permanently.

Innsbrück stepped up when Denver backed out—I think they should be rewarded for that. I agree about Greece. The Olympics could become their major industry.

543
ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:48:18am

Clinton’s email server and subsequent issues have been studied and looked into more than the whole pile of lies that led a president to justify a needless war.

I guess the Iraq war was not careless. Good to know. Also good to know the American media and public that follows it keeps things in realistic perspective.

544
lizardofid  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:48:18am

re: #538 lawhawk

The Rio Games may rival Sochi in terms of bad outcomes, not that it will change how the host cities are selected and venues are prepared in a timely fashion.

Still think the Games should have permanent homes, instead of rotating among cities that have to build infrastructure and venues that can quickly fall into disuse and disrepair - money that could go to other and better uses.

Greece should be permanent home to Summer Games. Winter Games should be in Switzerland permanently.

Worth exploring, I would think lots of folks holding Greek debt could be persuaded to get behind that plan.

545
Eventual Carrion  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:49:03am

re: #464 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

And that’s why nobody’s bothering to make a fuss over the way he handled his records.

So you don’t get prosecuted for “crimes” unless you run for office?

546
SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:50:14am

re: #516 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Coverage, sure, but none of the foaming-at-the-mouth outrage and *concern* over HRC’s email server. You might take the time to read up on the Trump rape accusation. As for the Bill Clinton stuff, that’s a new one on me.

Here’s my point, which I’m not sure you’re getting. The right wing is adamantly opposed to any Clinton — or Democrat — being in the White House again. For some reason — I dunno, maybe because she’s a woman (just thinking out loud here) — they really really hate Hillary. There is an entire RWNJ media machine that manufactures and amplifies stories intended to discredit the Clintons. Radio hosts, bloggers, pundits, politicians, Tea Partiers — they all repeat the same fake outrages over and over again, making mountains out of molehills. THAT’S why we’ve heard about Benghazi and email-gate virtually non-stop for fucking YEARS now.

There is no comparable left wing media machine, despite what the right wing says. So, you don’t have the same daily volcano of outrage about Trump’s bankruptcies, his cheating of business partners, investors, clients and workers, his alleged sexual escapades, etc.

You really need to understand these basic facts before you go off on HRC making “political blunders.”

I agree with your point. I think the RWNJs would be doing this no matter what Democrat was the front runner. It isn’t about misogyny or racism (although they are handy devices), it’s all about power.
I would say that you’re mixing right wing media with mainstream media. Granted there is no comparable left wing media because left doesn’t need gas poured on their fire like the right does. Left wing media is not a good business model (remember Air America and Current?) So when these right wing bloggers and radio hosts go full wingnut, I don’t think they’re reaching as much of an audience as you think. When I have my tv on I don’t hear as much Clinton bashing as the people who are monitoring the right wing. I also hear much more about Trump U and the bankruptcies and the racism than you think.
I understand the realities of the media and politics quite well, and that’s why Clinton’s email problem is her own fault. People on the left want to keep making excuses for her or blame it all on the right wing, but this is a basic grade A beginner’s politics level fuckup.

547
SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:51:08am

re: #526 GlutenFreeJesus

Let’s see how Trump handles 11 hours of straight questioning.

OMG that would be awesome! I didn’t bother watching Clinton because I knew she would be fine, but I would watch Trump!

548
SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:52:19am

re: #545 Eventual Carrion

So you don’t get prosecuted for “crimes” unless you run for office?

Nobody’s getting prosecuted. “Persecuted” is the word you’re looking for, and yes, it’s fair game.

549
Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:56:30am

re: #523 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

You’re talking to the wrong guy. The Republicans are going to keep this going all summer. Do you even understand the point I’m making?

No, because I scroll.

550
SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jul 5, 2016 • 9:59:59am

re: #549 Nyet

No, because I scroll.

Maybe it’s because even when you quote, you don’t even quote the whole thing. It isn’t a complicated line of argument. I gave people the courtesy of discussing their points but you can’t return the favor?

551
GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:00:36am

re: #543 ObserverArt

Clinton’s email server and subsequent issues have been studied and looked into more than the whole pile of lies that led a president to justify a needless war.

I guess the Iraq war was not careless. Good to know. Also good to know the American media and public that follows it keeps things in realistic perspective.

552
Nyet  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:00:49am

re: #550 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Maybe it’s because even when you quote, you don’t even quote the whole thing. It isn’t a complicated line of argument. I gave people the courtesy of discussing their points but you can’t return the favor?

tl;dr

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TedStriker  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:04:02am

re: #481 The Vicious Babushka

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:06:37am

re: #550 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Maybe it’s because even when you quote, you don’t even quote the whole thing. It isn’t a complicated line of argument. I gave people the courtesy of discussing their points but you can’t return the favor?

You’re a victim of Clinton Derangement Syndrome. We get it. Discussion complete.

555
sagehen  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:09:36am

re: #518 HappyWarrior

Heh yeah I do see that. I cannot believe he still hasn’t dropped out. Tomorrow’s going to be a month since California. I think he may genuinely have some mental issues going on. I really do.

I think there’s some campaign finance minutia about when he drops out and precisely what language he does it with means something something about donations…

556
sagehen  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:13:40am

re: #545 Eventual Carrion

So you don’t get prosecuted for “crimes” unless you run for office?

Don’t be silly, that’s not the reason.

IOKIYAR, that’s the reason.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:15:12am

re: #548 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Nobody’s getting prosecuted. “Persecuted” is the word you’re looking for, and yes, it’s fair game.

I know what words I am looking for, don’t need correction by you. Prosecuted pertains to crimes, persecution is used by insecure pinheads.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 5, 2016 • 10:43:43am

re: #180 Belafon

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 5, 2016 • 12:08:35pm

re: #433 Lidane

Today’s #NeverTrump fantasy:

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Not that he’s right, but the GOP did decide to nominate the one candidate least able to effectively attack Clinton’s judgment and trustworthiness. Way to go GOP!


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