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Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:23:50pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:26:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:26:32pm

Speaker Louie Gohmert? Damn it Sam, need sleep tonight. All jokes aside, you could tell it was fun for both Bee and POTUS.

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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:33:46pm

wonkette.com

Christian group in Chicago crying Christian oppression because they couldn’t set up their Pulse nightclub shooting themed “hell house” in an elementary school.

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whitebeach  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:33:57pm

All those RWNJ conspiracy theories dating back to at least 2012, where Obama is going to launch some diabolical scheme to prevent elections and make himself president for life? I used to just shake my head and laugh at this stuff, but lately I’m more like, Shit, that’s a long way from being the worst idea I’ve ever heard.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:34:52pm

re: #4 Anymouse

wonkette.com

Christian group in Chicago crying Christian oppression because they couldn’t set up their Pulse nightclub shooting themed “hell house” in an elementary school.

Sick assholes.

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TedStriker  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:34:55pm

re: #4 Anymouse

wonkette.com

Christian group in Chicago crying Christian oppression because they couldn’t set up their Pulse nightclub shooting themed “hell house” in an elementary school.

Not only that hot mess, but also this:

Can’t imagine why anyone would have a problem with that, considering that other parts of the “Hell House”-style attraction — an exercise in bringing a Chick Tract to life — would depict a botched abortion (presumably sending the woman and the doctor to Hell) and another re-creation of a mass shooting, the 2015 massacre at Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, where we presume all the victims went straight to heaven, so that would be the happiest massacre of all.

Dylann Roof would be so proud.

*retches*

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:36:50pm

UpChuck says that him and his hedge fund buddies are going to execute a hostile takeover of Twitter. Dude is fuckin’ hammered.

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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:38:43pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

UpChuck says that him and his hedge fund buddies are going to execute a hostile takeover of Twitter. Dude is fuckin’ hammered.

Since Twitter is up for sale, how could anyone make a hostile takeover?

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:38:54pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

UpChuck says that him and his hedge fund buddies are going to execute a hostile takeover of Twitter. Dude is fuckin’ hammered.

The two guys he shared a bottle of Mad Dog with in the bushes at the park are his hedge fund buddies.

RBS

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Reality Based Steve  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:40:01pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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what in holy tarnation is “Gab”?

RBS

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Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:42:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:42:29pm
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whitebeach  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:42:41pm

re: #4 Anymouse

wonkette.com

Christian group in Chicago crying Christian oppression because they couldn’t set up their Pulse nightclub shooting themed “hell house” in an elementary school.

You misspelled “hate-filled asshole nazi hypocrites.”

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BigPapa  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:44:27pm

re: #4 Anymouse

It’s more like Asshole Oppression. I’m all for oppressing assholes.

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:48:05pm

How bored is Nate Silver? He’s positing a replay of 2000, where Hillary could win the popular vote but Trump take the electoral college.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:48:27pm

I expect Chuck to be suspended again by the morning.

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freetoken  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:50:49pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

ESPN site to leverage the gambling addiction so common in sports.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:52:01pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Ginger Snapped’s version of a hedge fund is when he mortgages Boardwalk and Park Place…

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:53:37pm

re: #18 freetoken

ESPN site to leverage the gambling addiction so common in sports.

And when the worst-case scenarios don’t play out, he shrugs his shoulders and says that he only went by what his model showed, he didn’t say it was a definite possibility.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:55:01pm

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 31, 2016 • 9:57:28pm
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freetoken  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:03:33pm

re: #21 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:03:46pm
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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:07:25pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Mr. Johnson: At least you have a Twitter blue check. The other guy with your name doesn’t. Should he demand the President give him a checkmark? /s

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Joe Bacon  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:07:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:08:19pm
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austin_blue  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:08:27pm

Good Dog I’m going to miss Obama. What a brilliant, regular guy.

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Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:09:16pm

Gab, the Alt-Right’s Very Own Twitter, Is The Ultimate Filter Bubble

THE INTERNET HAS a speech regulation problem. To a lot of people (including WIRED), harassment and hate speech are corruptions of the democratization promised by the Web, and websites like Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram take constant flack for not dealing with the problem adequately enough. To the group calling itself the alt-right, which is really another word for white supremacists, any moderation looks like censorship. Their anger at being supposedly sidelined and silenced has spawned hashtag campaigns, think pieces, and now, a brand-new social media platform, Gab. Its primary schtick is promising an end to censorship. But by sequestering itself, Gab has managed to sideline it members further into an echo chamber so far removed from the rest of the conversation that its message has no chance of reaching unfamiliar ears.

Gab is less than a month old, so it may well flame out like Peach or Ello. But for now, the platform looks like an artifact from a dystopian universe where the alt-right completely took over Twitter. Gab has over 42,000 people on its waitlist, more than 11,000 active members, and among them are nearly all the alt-right’s online kingpins, including the Internet’s self-styled super-villain, Breitbart writer Milo Yiannopoulos himself, who was recently banned for life from Twitter. And Gab’s appeal for that crowd is obvious. The only posting guidelines are no illegal porn, no threats of violence, no terrorism, and no doxing. Oh, and a fifth commandment that literally says “try to be nice.” Everything else is fair game. Notably absent? Any explicit stipulations against hate speech.

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:11:58pm

I’ve blocked about a dozen of UpChuck’s fans. Lovely people.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:13:39pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

I’ve blocked about a dozen of UpChuck’s fans. Lovely people.

Yes, they are such lovely people showing their incredibly deep ¢hri$tian faith…

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whitebeach  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:14:11pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

I’ve blocked about a dozen of UpChuck’s fans. Lovely people.

You’re sayin you zapped em all, then? Nice work.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:15:25pm

re: #23 freetoken

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Joe Bacon  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:18:55pm

Hot Damn! It’s the New Three Stooges!

Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk!
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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:19:56pm
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retired cynic  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:20:44pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

OMG. He is the absolute pit.

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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:21:41pm

Gab sounds like a grift to me - I can’t see it being financed with significant advertising.

See also SarahTV, Mr. Trump’s scampaign, ReaganBook, Conservapedia, &c.

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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:22:15pm

re: #36 retired cynic

OMG. He is the absolute pit.

Keeps me off Twitter… .

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freetoken  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:22:32pm

re: #33 Eric The Fruit Bat

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:23:46pm

The hits keep on coming.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:28:29pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

Oh, I think it’s more like the misses keep coming…and hitting the floor…

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Trumpkins, Vote Nov. 28th!!  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:28:43pm

Trump = Larry
Jones = Moe
Putin = Curly

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freetoken  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:30:52pm

Time travel. It’s a well worn sci-fi gimmick and this season there are several TV shows that use it. All of them fall into the usual plot traps.

I’ve been trying to follow Travelers and even though the acting is good there is a huge plot hole. Name…

By coming back in time and taking over the bodies of people about to die, they are ensuring that person appears to keep on living. Thus they’ve already changed history. Any one of the travelers could accidentally set off a chain of events that lead to the non-existence of the supposed future from which they came.

Now one can say that by their presence that possibility is ruled out, but in the episodes so far it shows that their plans can change, and receive messages from the future that certain travelers’ plans have changed. Their “director” in the future is changing plans for travelers. This means there must be a fluidity to the path of events. If there is this fluidity, then how does one avoid the paradox?

Also, like so much fiction, including science-fiction, there is a remnant of creationism in the story. The premise (and this doesn’t need a spoiler as it’s the advertised gimmick to draw in viewers) is that consciousness from the future can be forced into bodies in the past.

This means our self-dialogue, our thinking, exists outside the cells of our nervous system.

This is contra to what we know about reality. Instead, it is a retelling of the meme of the “soul”, a convenient way to imagine life after death.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:30:55pm

Do you notice what Nate is doing here? He’s comparing Clinton’s 2016 polls to Obama’s 2012 actual election day performance in order to create the narrative that she’s doing worse in swing states at this point in the race. If he had compared her swing state polls to his swing state polls the horserace narrative he’s selling would’ve fallen completely apart.

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austin_blue  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:31:46pm

I’m off for the rack.

So, today we learned, as far as I can determine, that Drumpf is up to his eyebrows in Russian debt through the Alfa Bank and that the Russian government has taken over his oppo, which explains his not paying his actual oppo organization in San Antonio $750,000. Oh, and he has a dedicated call and response server from Trump Tower to the bank.

Ruh-roh.

In addition, that Russian oppo is dumping the D’s hacked e-mails into the US through Wikileaks to queer (original use of the word) the election.

Unconfirmed reports indicate that Trump’s 2014 trip may have resulted in him being filmed with a Tatiana plant (Me love you long time! Sucky fucky electric tongue number one!).

So. A traditional Presidential election continues apace.

Fuck my life.

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:31:53pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

Gotta get those clicks for ESPN.

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EPR-radar  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:34:04pm

re: #19 Joe Bacon

Ginger Snapped’s version of a hedge fund is when he mortgages Boardwalk and Park Place…

That’s too upscale for CCJ. More like mortgaging Mediterranean Ave and Baltic Ave.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:34:07pm

re: #39 freetoken

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freetoken  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:35:40pm

re: #48 Eric The Fruit Bat

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:36:21pm
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TedStriker  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:39:07pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:39:45pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

CCJ is boasting about being a ‘leader’ in the 101st Chairborne.

Most impressive. ///

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:40:13pm

re: #49 freetoken

I see what you did there.

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:41:29pm

UpChuck is sending all his tweets via iPhone. Is that a way to get around an identifying IP address?

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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:43:10pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

UpChuck is sending all his tweets via iPhone. Is that a way to get around an identifying IP address?

I am not a software engineer though my wife is so I’ll ask her:

Me: Honey, if someone used a cell phone, would it report a different IP address than a home computer?

Wife: If the cell phone went through a wireless tower or someone else’s router, yes.

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:43:14pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

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Do you notice what Nate is doing here? He’s comparing Clinton’s 2016 polls to Obama’s 2012 actual election day performance in order to create the narrative that she’s doing worse in swing states at this point in the race. If he had compared her swing state polls to his swing state polls the horserace narrative he’s selling would’ve fallen completely apart.

The other problem with the narrative? Obama actually overperformed on election day compared to his poll numbers in the final days of the race.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:44:28pm

re: #50 teleskiguy

When Ginger Snapped’s kid is born, we ought to put a bounty on Wesearchr demanding a paternity test to be done on the baby to prove if the kid is actually his-after all, with all the travelling he’s been doing, who knows if the child is really his? As a journalist, he should submit in an independent paternity test.

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retired cynic  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:44:48pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

UpChuck is sending all his tweets via iPhone. Is that a way to get around an identifying IP address?

Bumming off of someone else’s wifi?

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:45:46pm

re: #58 retired cynic

Bumming off of someone else’s wifi?

Or just using the local 4G network. Anymouse’s better half kind of explained it.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:45:51pm

re: #56 Targetpractice

The other problem with the narrative? Obama actually overperformed on election day compared to his poll numbers in the final days of the race.

That’s kind of my point, he’s avoiding making an apples to apples comparison because doing so would totally undermine his narrative that Clinton is underperforming. She’s not.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:46:19pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

UpChuck is sending all his tweets via iPhone. Is that a way to get around an identifying IP address?

At one point he claimed Twitter had banned his home IP address, though most consider that unlikely. My guess is HAW is using the computer and Chuck’s out in the living room sulking and tweeting.

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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:46:51pm

re: #59 teleskiguy

Or just using the local 4G network. Anymouse’s better half kind of explained it.

She has to keep her computer-related responses simple for me.

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thecommodore  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:49:29pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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I think Chuck C. Johnson is a Democrat Party plant. James O’Keefe’s amazing expose of how George Soros trucks in people to stir shit up at Teump rallies was very eye opening, and very relieving. I was actually worried that these alt right types were a teal threat. Now I realize that Chuck and his ilk are all doing Soros’s bidding. Very clever, I must say.

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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:51:29pm

My elbow surgery was over a month ago …

Aside from the pain in the joint because it is still recovering, the skin has been very sore too.

I just pulled out a stitch from one of the really sore spots. Could that be it?

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:51:35pm

re: #60 goddamnedfrank

That’s kind of my point, he’s avoiding making an apples to apples comparison because doing so would totally undermine his narrative that Clinton is underperforming. She’s not.

I recognized my mistake about a split second after I hit “Post.” Of course, it wasn’t just that Obama overperformed, it was also that Romney underperformed.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:55:27pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:57:04pm

Hahahahaha! He is so predictable!

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retired cynic  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:57:20pm

re: #66 Eric The Fruit Bat

There’s that funny looking guy again. Haven’t seen him for years, and pop, here he comes.

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whitebeach  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:58:46pm

re: #66 Eric The Fruit Bat

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What is it with these people and the things they put on their heads?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 31, 2016 • 10:59:53pm

re: #69 whitebeach

What is it with these people and the things they put on their heads?

Beats the shit otta me….

Night nite folks…

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:02:09pm

The reality of the polls right now? If Hillary were down 5%+ in the polls and looking to get her ass kicked in the EC to the tune of 50 votes or better, there would be no question about whether or not she could pull it out and win. The stories would be about how she’s worse than Nixon because Nixon actually won twice, while Trump would be hailed as carrying a mandate that would set off a new Republican renaissance.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:05:26pm

This should be fun to watch.

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Robert O.  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:05:55pm

***BREAKING***

Who’s still awake, and who’s aware that the trending topic now in the past few hours on Google News is Trump using legally dubious (now completely illegal) methods to avoid paying tax?

We need to help spread this story! Start Googleing and posting to your social media. Here’s the NY Times article: nytimes.com

Remember that for this whole election cycle, the candidate who’s in the spotlight gets falling support. Let’s switch the topic from emails to Trump’s taxes.

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retired cynic  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:06:45pm

re: #72 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This should be fun to watch.

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Sure he is.

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:07:34pm

re: #74 retired cynic

Sure he is.

I think he meant /r/The_Donald

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:08:46pm

Get a load of the “billboard” funded by Wesearchr marks.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:10:34pm

re: #64 Anymouse

My elbow surgery was over a month ago …

Aside from the pain in the joint because it is still recovering, the skin has been very sore too.

I just pulled out a stitch from one of the really sore spots. Could that be it?

After a month? Fuck yes. Is it red and inflamed?

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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:11:03pm
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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:12:11pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

After a month? Fuck yes. Is it red and inflamed?

Some. I have another spot on the opposite end of the healing incision like that … perhaps that also has a thread in it as well.

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retired cynic  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:13:02pm

re: #79 Anymouse

Some. I have another spot on the opposite end of the healing incision like that … perhaps that also has a thread in it as well.

Sure could be. Is it warmer than the tissue around it?

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TedStriker  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:13:49pm

re: #76 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Get a load of the “billboard” funded by Wesearchr marks.

[Embedded content]

How much did Chuck supposedly raise for this, 8-10 grand?

Shit, that banner (which is all it is) couldn’t have cost more than a few hundred bucks, maybe a grand or so is being generous, and you know when he’s saying that “the billboard is on the interstate” in Ryan’s turf, he really means someone probably stuck it on the side of the interstate in the right-of-way and not on private property (if so, it’ll likely be down in a few days).

He’s definitely got his marks pegged, doesn’t he?

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austin_blue  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:16:29pm

re: #73 Robert O.

***BREAKING***

Who’s still awake, and who’s aware that the trending topic now in the past few hours on Google News is Trump using legally dubious (now completely illegal) methods to avoid paying tax?

We need to help spread this story! Start Googleing and posting to your social media. Here’s the NY Times article: nytimes.com

Remember that for this whole election cycle, the candidate who’s in the spotlight gets falling support. Let’s switch the topic from emails to Trump’s taxes.

That’s a nothingburger. The fact that he used a tax dodge, legal at the time, means he could.

That means that it should be addressed by addressed by the reform of the tax code.

The bigger problem is that he appears to be a puppet of the Russian Government.

You have been registered here for twelve years and have posted 950 comments. That’s ***BREAKING***

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:17:52pm
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Kragar  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:18:16pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:20:37pm

re: #79 Anymouse

Some. I have another spot on the opposite end of the healing incision like that … perhaps that also has a thread in it as well.

You gotta keep those clean and periodically apply triple antibiotic. If they’re infected now though they absolutely gotta go. I’ve never seen surface stitches stay in longer than two weeks max, usually less, and they should be completely visible from the outside. I mean, there’s a chance the inflammation could be caused by an absorbable suture deeper inside, sometimes that can happen. I’d call the VA and see if you can get an NP to advise you on what to do.

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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:20:53pm

re: #80 retired cynic

Sure could be. Is it warmer than the tissue around it?

Hard to say … maybe a bit.

A comment over at Wonkette on James Comey explains a bit:

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:21:05pm

re: #81 TedStriker

How much did Chuck supposedly raise for this, 8-10 grand?

Shit, that banner (which is all it is) couldn’t have cost more than a few hundred bucks and you know when he’s saying that “the billboard is on the interstate” in Ryan’s turf, he really means someone probably stuck it on the side of the interstate in the right-of-way and not on private property (if so, it’ll likely be down in a few days).

He’s definitely got his marks pegged, doesn’t he?

Billboard advertisers need to get a permit in most localities. And a good stiff wind could blow that sad excuse for a billboard into traffic, so it’s a safety hazard as well.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:21:43pm

re: #76 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Get a load of the “billboard” funded by Wesearchr marks.

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That looks like complete dogshit.

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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:22:21pm

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

You gotta keep those clean and periodically apply triple antibiotic. If they’re infected now though they absolutely gotta go. I’ve never seen surface stitches stay in longer than two weeks max, usually less, and they should be completely visible from the outside. I mean, there’s a chance the inflammation could be caused by an absorbable suture deeper inside, sometimes that can happen. I’d call the VA and see if you can get an NP to advise you on what to do.

I have to call the VA nurse at the Sidney VA Clinic tomorrow anyway.

The stitches were removed some two weeks after the surgery; apparently a couple threads were left behind.

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retired cynic  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:23:21pm

re: #86 Anymouse

Hard to say … maybe a bit.

Hot pack it some tonight, and see if that works something up and out. In the morning, I would call about it.

Edit for confusing formatting. May have made it worse!

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:24:29pm

re: #83 Targetpractice

Lizardized:

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retired cynic  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:25:59pm

re: #90 retired cynic

Hot pack it some tonight, and see if that works something up and out. In the morning, I would call about it.

Edit for confusing formatting. May have made it worse!

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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:26:30pm

re: #90 retired cynic

Thanks, I’ll do that. (I have to call anyway, since I need to renew my epilepsy medications. I can ask the nurse about the stitches as well and her suggestions for treatment. If I can avoid a sixty mile drive to the clinic so much the better.)

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TedStriker  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:26:42pm

re: #88 goddamnedfrank

That looks like complete dogshit.

That’s being charitable.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:27:51pm

re: #89 Anymouse

I have to call the VA nurse at the Sidney VA Clinic tomorrow anyway.

The stitches were removed some two weeks after the surgery; apparently a couple threads were left behind.

That can definitely happen.

Off topic, the Cabelas flagship store in Sidney is fucking amazeballs.

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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:28:56pm

re: #94 TedStriker

That’s being charitable.

Chuck separating wingnuts from their money.

Anything going to Chuck is not going to Republican candidates so there is that.

I don’t see how such a sign hurts Rep. Ryan though; it neither attacks Mr. Ryan nor promotes someone else over him.

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retired cynic  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:30:34pm

re: #96 Anymouse

It’s an inside joke. You have to know the password.

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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:31:24pm

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

That can definitely happen.

Off topic, the Cabelas flagship store in Sidney is fucking amazeballs.

Been there a couple times. It really is. My understanding is that Bass Pro Shops bought Cabelas, so the corporate downtown offices in Sidney will be closed, but the Cabela’s store will remain open.

Cabela’s is adding another building next to the store (to be more store). The City of Sidney is doing a large number of infrastructure improvements between downtown and the state link highway between US-385 and I-80 (in the middle of which is Cabela’s).

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:39:44pm

re: #96 Anymouse

Chuck separating wingnuts from their money.

Anything going to Chuck is not going to Republican candidates so there is that.

I don’t see how such a sign hurts Rep. Ryan though; it neither attacks Mr. Ryan nor promotes someone else over him.

And the nearest border is with Canada.

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:47:37pm
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Anymouse  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:49:02pm

Well, perhaps an astringent for my elbow would be good …

Maybe rum taken internally? /s

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FormerDirtDart  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:50:07pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:55:10pm

Here’s an interesting map of the United States.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Oct 31, 2016 • 11:56:12pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

UpChuck says that him and his hedge fund buddies are going to execute a hostile takeover of Twitter. Dude is fuckin’ hammered.

“Twitter is a dying, worthless service. Hey guys, let’s spend all our money purchasing it!”

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:00:53am

re: #103 teleskiguy

I’ve seen the map before, which shows my county as predominantly Roman Catholic.

The former Roman Catholic Church in my village is now the gun shop (we call it the Church of the NRA).

As far as I am aware, there is only one Catholic Church in my county. There is also one Greek Orthodox Church in my county. A couple Lutheran Churches, a couple Mennonite Churches. A United Methodist Church.

Do they get the numbers based on numbers of churches, or reported members of those churches? (I have no idea for example if there are more people in the Catholic Church than the Greek Orthodox Church for example.)

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:07:37am

Time for Senator Burr to hit the trail:

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piratedan  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:09:07am

re: #106 Anymouse

its as if the Sarah Palin surveyor symbols had no fucking effect on anyone over on the right.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:10:38am

re: #103 teleskiguy

Here’s an interesting map of the United States.

The Largest Religious Group in Each County

Washington Post article where that map came from.

Additional images:
img.washingtonpost.com Second Largest Religious Tradition in Each State, 2010
img.washingtonpost.com Largest Non-Christian Tradition by County

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:11:39am

re: #107 piratedan

its as if the Sarah Palin surveyor symbols had no fucking effect on anyone over on the right.

Oh, they had an effect. Hence Trump’s “Second Amendment people,” Sharron Angle’s “Second Amendment solutions,” &c.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:17:28am

2.7km (1.7-mile) flight between Westray and Papa Westray in the Orkney islands, officially takes two minutes but with favourable winds it can be done in 47 seconds

Westray to Papa Westray flight

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:21:57am

This is why UpChuck is such a degenerate menace on Twitter. Veiled threats against mainstream journalists, and so far this is a-okay with Twitter.

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:23:29am

Unhinged.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:24:04am

re: #112 teleskiguy

Neads moar reports to Twitter.

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:25:32am

If you have a Twitter account and are willing to report UpChuck, the best way to do it is to check “Abusive or Harmful” followed by “Targeted Harassment.”

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:27:08am

He wants to repeal the 19th Amendment.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:27:55am

Libertarian VP candidate Bill Weld lights into James Comey:

Libertarian vice presidential nominee William Weld lit into James Comey, saying Monday that his decision to announce a review of new emails was “disgraceful” and that the FBI director and the agency were “off the reservation.”
“They’re totally off the reservation,” Weld told CNN’s Alisyn Camerota Monday on “New Day,” adding that the US Attorney General may need to get involved to rein in Comey.

cnn.com

More at CNN

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:30:14am

So USA Today’s front-page, above-the-fold story is…that Comey is getting a bipartisan ass-chewing. And nowhere in the paragraphs on Page 1 do they waste time trying to defend him by saying that he was “just doing his job.”

We might, might just be seeing a break in the storm.

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:32:13am
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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:32:55am

Miami Herald takes Senator Marco Rubio to task in an op-ed:

Senator No-Show is campaigning hard to return to the Senate after telling Florida voters he wouldn’t run for re-election.

No one who has followed Marco Rubio’s political acrobatics was surprised by this 180-degree pirouette, which occurred soon after Donald Trump humiliated him in the state’s presidential primary. Nor is there any mystery to Rubio’s motive. Being in the Senate is the only way he can stay sufficiently visible to run for the White House again in four years.

When pressed, Rubio says he intends to serve the full term as a senator. Who believes that? There’s only one job he cares about, and he’s going to try again in 2020. Everybody’s aware of his awful attendance record, and that he dislikes the job. “I don’t know that ‘hate’ is the right word,” he told the Washington Post last year. “I’m frustrated.”

miamiherald.com

It gets better as it goes on… .

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:35:24am

re: #115 teleskiguy

He wants to repeal the 19th Amendment.

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I have a feeling he had a fight with the wife, and is sleeping on the sofa tonight.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:37:09am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:39:45am

Jeez, he’s still going!

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:40:26am

I think the worst nightmare for the GOP right now is the revelation that Comey fought against making info about Trump’s Russian connections available to the public. That turns this story on its head, as now it takes the bite out of the original “HILLARY’S EMAILS ARGLEBARGLE!!!” and turns it into a public question over whether or not the FBI has a political interest in seeing Trump become president.

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:42:21am

Hey, UpChuck finally blocked me!

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:43:18am

re: #123 Targetpractice

Yup, all this E-mail nonsense has done zero to regret me casting my mail ballot for Hillary Clinton (and mostly blank downballot lines because I had a choice of only Republicans fascists).

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:43:19am

re: #124 teleskiguy

Hey, UpChuck finally blocked me!

Congratulations!

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:47:29am

Well shit, once one is blocked you can’t report offensive tweets. Oh well … Hopefully his asinine charade on Twitter ends soon.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:50:03am

Get a load of this one

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:52:24am

And this one. He’s on a roll!

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thecommodore  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:53:46am

re: #117 Targetpractice

So USA Today’s front-page, above-the-fold story is…that Comey is getting a bipartisan ass-chewing. And nowhere in the paragraphs on Page 1 do they waste time trying to defend him by saying that he was “just doing his job.”

We might, might just be seeing a break in the storm.

We better be.

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:57:40am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 12:58:46am

I’m convinced that Rage Furby’s latest tweetstorm is a result of the embarrassing story in Daily Beast about his tussle with Roger Stone. And maybe things are not cool at home, either, because he’s been misogynistic more than usual.

He’s unhinged. Just reading over his tweets is a peek into a troubled mind.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:07:28am

theatlantic.com

An author at The Atlantic, after the DDos attack that locked up much of the East and West coasts, set up a server to see how long hackers would take to find it and try to hack into it.

Less than one hour.

This graphic is a simulation—a bot’s-eye view, if you will—but it’s the actual sequence of commands the hacking script used. It tried a common default username and password (root/root) and executed the “sh” command, giving it the ability to run programs and install its own code. My fake toaster doesn’t allow that, of course—it just cuts the connection.

The next hacking attempt, from a different IP address and using different login credentials, came at 2:07 p.m. Another came at 2:10. And then 2:40. And 2:48. In all, more than 300 different IP addresses attempted to hack my honeypot by 11:59 p.m. Many of them used the password “xc3511,” which was the factory default for many of the old webcams hijacked in last week’s attack.

The last attempted hack came 5 minutes ago, using the username root and the password root. (Yes, those are live figures; they were updated when you loaded this page.)

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:07:58am

re: #131 teleskiguy

This is my parting shot to UpChuck, seeing as how I can only see his tweets if I’m not logged in. Hopefully Twitter does the right thing in the next half day.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:08:23am

re: #132 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m convinced that Rage Furby’s latest tweetstorm is a result of the embarrassing story in Daily Beast about his tussle with Roger Stone. And maybe things are not cool at home, either, because he’s been misogynistic more than usual.

He’s unhinged. Just reading over his tweets is a peek into a troubled mind.

I think you can also throw in financial issues. In-laws have probably made it clear that they were willing to put up with his shit when it was just him and HAW. But now that a kid’s on the way, they’re laying down the law and telling his lazy ass to get a job and start pulling his weight.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:13:05am

Y’all, seriously, Chuck thrives on attention. Just report him and block. When you try to engage him with clever retorts in his mind you’re just validating his existence and giving him a palpable feeling of accomplishment.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:26:28am
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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:29:59am
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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:30:41am

re: #137 goddamnedfrank

Saw the headlines of stories that covered that Nature paper.

Anecdotally, it has been illustrated many times with salesmen - they do better when they believe what they sell. This gets manifested in religion too.

In regards to the wingnut stream of outrages on social media - I don’t know how much any single one believes, but I do suspect there are many people who once they close off their bubble and only listen to hate-talk radio and Fox News, are no longer open to doing research that will be able to convince them otherwise.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:37:39am

re: #140 Anymouse

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GAH! Wish it into the cornfield, Anthony!

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:38:15am

October is over, and this year the Arctic sea ice extent is at a record low, and there isn’t much thick ice up against the Canadian archipelago.

None of which makes headlines anymore, especially this week.

They are though signs that the world surface is getting warmer.

This also was a story yesterday:

Study blames warm winter for low snowpack levels

The western United States set records for low winter snowpack levels in 2015, and a new report blames high temperatures rather than low precipitation levels, according to a new study.

Greenhouse gases appear to be a major contributor to the high temperatures, according to the study published Monday in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.

Scientists looked at snow-measurement sites in California, Oregon, Washington, western Nevada and western Idaho. They found that in 2015, more than 80 percent of those sites experienced record low snowpack levels as a result of much warmer-than-average temperatures.

[…]

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:41:03am
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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:42:36am

re: #143 Ace-o-aces

We’ll see what dominates the news cycle on Tuesday.

Probably the World Series game.

Besides that, looking at headlines now on aggregators, all the surprises dropped Monday about Drumpfskind appear to not have made a dent.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:42:48am

re: #139 freetoken

Saw the headlines of stories that covered that Nature paper.

Anecdotally, it has been illustrated many times with salesmen - they do better when they believe what they sell. This gets manifested in religion too.

In regards to the wingnut stream of outrages on social media - I don’t know how much any single one believes, but I do suspect there are many people who once they close off their bubble and only listen to hate-talk radio and Fox News, are no longer open to doing research that will be able to convince them otherwise.

I discovered the phenomenon as a young child trying to scam my parents about some bullshit thing during a long road trip. I can’t remember what I was trying to get away with but I clearly remember there was a moment when I realized my reactions to having my lie challenged evoked an initial genuine feeling that the lie was true and they were wrong. At that point without even being scolded I pulled back, realizing the danger at play in attempting to continue the ruse.

When I grew up I just kind of considered that a basic phase of development that everyone must go through.

Clearly not everyone goes through it.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:45:44am

re: #143 Ace-o-aces

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Just thought you should know.

ABANDON INTERNET!

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Alyosha  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:51:55am

Hey y’all, there was a silly horse race on today so I got the day off and went on a field trip with the family.

The beach where our PM, Harold Holt went missing in rough weather in 1967. *spooky voice* some say it was a Chinese sub what took ‘im.


Is a nice contrast with:

It was pretty cool. The point has a complex of fortifications and gun positions dating back to 1889. The coolest part was standing in the gun emplacement where a six inch cannon fired the first shot in WWI from any Commonwealth country. It was an attempt to get a German ship, which was trying to escape the port, to surrender.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 1:52:30am

re: #146 Targetpractice

ABANDON INTERNET!

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Women and children first.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:05:22am

Maybe that’s Vlad’s plan: Drop the sex tape the day before the election and watch America fall into anarchy from millions being hospitalized due to projectile vomiting.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:27:32am

re: #16 Targetpractice

How bored is Nate Silver? He’s positing a replay of 2000, where Hillary could win the popular vote but Trump take the electoral college.

re: #20 Targetpractice

And when the worst-case scenarios don’t play out, he shrugs his shoulders and says that he only went by what his model showed, he didn’t say it was a definite possibility.

Saying this has a chance of roughly 10% is not positing it as a probable scenario.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:31:08am

re: #76 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:35:27am

re: #151 Nyet

heh. I didn’t notice the moonman missing from the banner. What happened, i wonder?

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:35:50am

re: #152 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

heh. I didn’t notice the moonman missing from the banner. What happened, i wonder?

It’s there.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:40:55am

re: #141 Targetpractice

GAH! Wish it into the cornfield, Anthony!

I should have put that painting behind a HIDE tag. /s

Mr. Jim Wright of Stonekettle Station hits another out of the park, on why he is supporting Hillary Clinton even though he personally dislikes her.

stonekettle.com

Of note, he says he is going to personally attend the polls November 8, both to vote and as a check on those who might try to intimidate voters - people he does not know because he only recently moved to Florida.

He is standing up for the Constitution he so long affirmed he would uphold and defend, even now. Bravo.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:42:52am
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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:50:03am

Snowden could earn himself a pardon by stealing the Trump sex tape and sending it west. How he might get out of Russia to collect is up to him.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:53:21am

dw.com

Germany has its own sovereign citizen movement problem, exposed after a police officer was shot.

Who are the Reichsbürger? They do not actually exist as an organization as such. They are instead a very fragmented and somewhat contradictory scene without a leader or hierarchy. The only things that unite the movement are the belief that the German Empire still exists and the refusal to acknowledge the Federal Republic of Germany as a state. In the opinion of the Reichsbürger, the German Reich still exists, as do the country’s 1937 borders. They consider the Federal Republic of Germany to instead be a limited liability company.

Some of the Reichsbürger have their own “substitute documents” like the Reichs-ID, which they carry with them as though it were an official identity card. They have even founded states like the “Exile Government of the German Reich” or the “Free State of Prussia”. The “imperial citizens” deny the legitimacy of state institutions such as courts or police and do not accept state decisions. They often do not pay taxes or fines and frequently annoy authorities with their formal complaints or long, written statements.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 2:59:32am

re: #155 Nyet

Now I see it.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:00:54am

Fireball seen over Japan this morning. Video from a car dashcam and a security camera.

dw.com

Scientists say it is likely a piece of an asteroid or perhaps a piece of space junk. (Video lasts about ten seconds)

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:01:33am

re: #145 goddamnedfrank

Think of method actors. Good acting is based on real life, and that includes real emotions.

Even though the purpose is to present a fictional tale.

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freetoken  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:03:22am

TBS is offering up an offbeat comedy, the pilot of which is on Youtube:

People of Earth: Premiere Full Episode | TBS

I found it whimsically humorous.

But some appear to be offended:

imdb.com

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:04:26am

Spending all day and most of the evening at Starbucks consuming sugar laden coffee beverages is an exceptionally bad choice when it comes to trying to sleep.

RBS

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:08:40am

re: #158 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Now I see it.

It’s actually the McDonald’s Mac Tonight moon from the 80’s.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:11:15am

re: #163 goddamnedfrank

Not anymore.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:12:44am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:18:48am

re: #163 goddamnedfrank

It’s actually the McDonald’s Mac Tonight moon from the 80’s.

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The symbol has been co-opted by the alt right.
knowyourmeme.com

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:20:31am
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:23:30am

re: #164 Nyet

Not anymore.

I like how most of the grommets aren’t doing shit, because they couldn’t even find a decent frame with a top bar to mount the vinyl banner to and didn’t bother to rig a guide wire. The few grommets that are being used are obviously way overloaded and are going to quickly tear out. Even if they had hung it correctly that kind of application also calls for semicircular cut flaps / vent holes to mitigate wind shear. Amateur hour.

/Spent a year working at a sign shop.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:28:41am

re: #168 goddamnedfrank

I like how most of the grommets aren’t doing shit, because they couldn’t even find a decent frame with a top bar to mount the vinyl banner to and didn’t bother to rig a guide wire. The few grommets that are being used are obviously way overloaded and are going to quickly tear out. Even if they had hung it correctly that kind of application also calls for vent holes to mitigate wind shear. Amateur hour.

/Spent a year working at a sign shop.

It’s a safety hazard, if it blows across the highway into traffic.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:39:17am

Blast from the past:

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:49:18am

re: #169 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s a safety hazard, if it blows across the highway into traffic.

It also, as previously established, looks worse than hammered shit. It’s like someone put on a design clinic and this was the example of everything you should never do. It’s a clusterfuck of epic proportions. Whoever modified the original graphic file for production was a fucking moron, it’s no joke the worst thing I’ve ever seen actually get produced. Take the stupid frogman with the rifle, notice how the top of his hair and body below the sign is missing? The original design had him on top of the wall with the top of his head cut off by the top edge of the image but the dimensions were all wrong for a billboard / banner application so they quickly just had someone move the rifleman frog and drag him down from where he originally was above the wall to his current position popping above the “US Border” sign. Same thing with the top of the moonman, all of which happened because the idiots didn’t save their last work in progress with layers.

And all of that ignores the horrid color palate, the basic layout and cancer at the heart of its conception.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:49:57am

Democrats use 1870 Anti Ku Klux Klan Act to sue Donald Trump and Roger Stone:

rawstory.com

Democrats claim that Trump, Stone and the state Republican parties are in violation of the 1870s-era Ku Klux Klan Act, which outlaws private conspiracies from threatening voters.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:51:34am

re: #171 goddamnedfrank

cancer at the heart of its conception.

Chuck as cancer is a good metaphor. /

174
Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:53:18am

I did not need to wake up to this news:

It looks like African Americans are not turning out to vote.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:56:50am
176
goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:57:54am

re: #174 Ziggy_TARDIS

I did not need to wake up to this news:

[Embedded content]

It looks like African Americans are not turning out to vote. We may actually lose this.

Calm down.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 3:59:09am

re: #176 goddamnedfrank

Is there something I am missing?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:01:19am

re: #177 Ziggy_TARDIS

Is there something I am missing?

Common sense.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:01:43am

re: #177 Ziggy_TARDIS

Is there something I am missing?

Yes. For example, saying “We may actually lose this” does not add anything useful or informational to the discussion.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:03:00am

re: #179 Nyet

Ok, the last part is me panicking. It seems AA participation is WAY down though compared to 2012, and 2008, which could really hurt us.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:03:53am

re: #174 Ziggy_TARDIS

Electionsmith’s research, according to their “About Us” page, are all based on the alleged expertise of one guy:

electionsmith.files.wordpress.com (dot) pdf
(CV of Daniel Smith, professor at the University of Florida)

His CV according to the University of Florida is considerably less fleshed out:
africa.ufl.edu

What is claimed at Electionsmith (Professor in Political Science Department since 2010) is different than his page at UF (associate professor, expertise in Ghana)

In other words, who the heck is this guy? Never heard of him. His personal Webpage (linked at the UF page) only goes to another UF page with no more information.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:04:30am

re: #180 Ziggy_TARDIS

Ok, the last part is me panicking. It seems AA participation is WAY down though compared to 2012, and 2008, which could really hurt us.

It is not Nov. 8 yet. Calm down. Seriously.

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John Carter  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:08:32am

re: #180 Ziggy_TARDIS

Ok, the last part is me panicking. It seems AA participation is WAY down though compared to 2012, and 2008, which could really hurt us.

Concern troll. Does this blog have a block feature?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:09:51am

re: #177 Ziggy_TARDIS

Is there something I am missing?

Lots. Southern African Americans traditionally turn out for early voting en masse after Church on Sunday. It’s a tradition. In 2012 there were only two early voting days at this point, both on a weekend. He’s comparing that to a much longer period this year, with most EV days so far falling during the week. Lastly, you’re looking at percentages of the total, not total numbers of voters in each category.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:10:07am

re: #183 John Carter

I’m not a concern troll. I have, among other things, an Anxiety Disorder that causes me to get panicky in a huge hurry.

Especially now, since I am under stress other than the election.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:10:54am

re: #184 goddamnedfrank

Ok. That makes me feel a little better.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:14:11am

re: #183 John Carter

Concern troll. Does this blog have a block feature?

Don’t really want to bash on Ziggy here, but the information about the site and its expertise literally took me less than ten seconds to find. It took me longer to type my response than finding the information on this Professor Smith.

All information on the Internet is not equal, Ziggy. This guy literally has no track record, and neither does ElectionSmith (considering Professor Smith is their only source, a name like ElectionSmith sounds like it is his own site).

And what do you know, it is his own Website.

Really, before going off the handle, you really need to use the tools in front of you (a computer) to find information rather than simply accept any ridiculous notion that comes across your desk.

whois.icann.org

Contact Information
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Name: Daniel A. Smith
Organization: Daniel Smith
Mailing Address: 234 Anderson Hall, Office 003, Gainesville FL 32611 US
Phone: +1.3522836482
Ext:
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Email:electionsmith@gmail.com
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Name: Daniel A. Smith
Organization: Daniel Smith
Mailing Address: 234 Anderson Hall, Office 003, Gainesville FL 32611 US
Phone: +1.3522836482
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Email:electionsmith@gmail.com
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Name: MyDiscountDomains Email us before you call.
Organization: mydiscountdomains.com
Mailing Address: 316 Cozumel CT NA NA, Laguna Beach FL 92651 US
Phone: +1.9494978372
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:17:36am

re: #16 Targetpractice

How bored is Nate Silver? He’s positing a replay of 2000, where Hillary could win the popular vote but Trump take the electoral college.

Its slightly possible, since Trump’s rebound has put him back in the lead in Az, Ia, Oh and Maine’s 2nd congressional district, and made Nv, Fl and NC into tossups. If he can flip NH as well, which is small and elastic, Trump can get to 270. While it sounds like low probability to win a bunch of states that are tossups, since support across states is correlated and not completely independent of each other a Trump surge this last week could flip them all.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:19:05am

Looks like that NYTimes story hasn’t stopped the spread of the Trump as Manchurian Candidate story.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:20:58am

re: #157 Anymouse

dw.com

Germany has its own sovereign citizen movement problem, exposed after a police officer was shot.

They consider the Federal Republic of Germany to instead be a limited liability company.

In that respect, I have to agree with them.

They also consider Germany an “occupied nation” and refuse to accept the authority of the “occupying powers”.

But yes, they are are a bunch of whacked-our f*cks, but I suspect that if they try to occupy federal property, they will not be allowed to get off without so much a slap on the wrist…

191
Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:21:34am

re: #181 Anymouse

Smith seems to be legit. At least I don’t see a reason to seriously distrust his data.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:22:09am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They consider the Federal Republic of Germany to instead be a limited liability company.

In that respect, I have to agree with them.

wut?

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:24:13am

re: #191 Nyet

Smith seems to be legit. At least I don’t see a reason to seriously distrust his data.

Where’d he get it?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:25:54am
195
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:26:30am

re: #192 Nyet

wut?

Owned and run by the banks and insurance companies…but in that sense, no different to any other nation-state, which simply serves to collect taxes from its residents (but not its corporations)

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:27:10am

re: #193 Anymouse

Where’d he get it?

Your question can be answered by simply following the original link.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:27:51am

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Owned and run by the banks and insurance companies…but in that sense, no different to any other nation-state, which simply serves to collect taxes from its residents (but not its corporations)

Um. You understand that they’re not being figurative and actually think BRD is a GmbH?

198
Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:29:20am

This article by Smith seems interesting.

prq.sagepub.com

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:30:10am

Lastly remember that Trump still hasn’t got jack shit in the way of ground game infrastructure or experience.

Clinton can lose Florida, North Carolina, Iowa, Ohio, and Nevada and still win. To me that seems like the worst case scenario that’s even possible.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:32:48am

re: #198 Nyet

Abstract
In mid-2011, the Florida legislature reduced the state’s early voting period from fourteen days to eight and eliminated
the final Sunday of early voting. We compare observed voting patterns in 2012 with those in the 2008 General
Election and find that racial/ethnic minorities, registered Democrats, and those without party affiliation had significant
early voting participation drops and that voters who cast ballots on the final Sunday in 2008 were disproportionately
unlikely to cast a valid ballot in 2012. Florida’s decision to truncate early voting may have diminished participation rates
of those already least likely to vote.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:33:32am

re: #196 Nyet

Your question can be answered by simply following the original link.

Okay I went back and read the entire blog post again.

So my question stands: Where’d he get his information. It does not say other than this:

Here are the latest figures I’ve calculated by linking the statewide September 30, 2016 voter file with daily Early In-Person and Vote-by-Mail returns, and comparing these figures with data from 2012 at the same point in time (that is, through Sunday, October 30, 2016, and Sunday, October 28, 2012).

Let’s break that down.

a) Statewide September 30 (over a month old) voter file, compared to votes in 2012 and 2016. No links to these voter files, no information about where he got his Early In-Person and Vote-by-Mail returns, or how he would determine those votes are African-American votes (I don’t recall a “race” block on my ballot but maybe Florida is different).

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:33:50am

re: #200 Nyet

Our analysis provides considerable evidence that
Sawyer and other critics of Florida’s plan to reduce its
early voting period were substantially correct.
Notwithstanding the fact that the aggregate number of
early voting hours remained at ninety-six in many of
Florida’s sixty-seven counties including its five Section
5 counties (Bousquet 2012a), the voting rights of racial
and ethnic minorities appear to have been disproportionately
hampered by the reduction in the number of early
voting days and particularly the elimination of the final
Sunday of early voting. Our comparison of early voting
patterns in 2008 with 2012 reveals that racial and ethnic
minorities as well as Democrats and unaffiliated voters
were far disproportionately less likely to vote early in
2012 than in 2008. The cause of this drop is likely a combination
of campaign effects and the reduction by
approximately one-third in the number of early voting
days in Florida in conjunction with the elimination of the
final Sunday of voting. These changes by the Florida
legislature clearly made early voting less convenient and
less accessible for Florida voters with inflexible schedules,
and this is consistent with our analysis that reveals
that early voters who cast their ballots on the final
Sunday of early voting in 2008 were considerably less
likely to turn out to vote in 2012.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:34:17am

re: #201 Anymouse

He doesn’t have to provide you with links.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:34:41am

re: #198 Nyet

This article by Smith seems interesting.

prq.sagepub.com

Requires a sign-in or a payment. Got a summary?

205
Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:37:24am

re: #203 Nyet

He doesn’t have to provide you with links.

That’s true he doesn’t. He can simply tell me to accept what he writes without evidence.

That is not how assertions work. You make an assertion, you provide the evidence.

How many times have we seen people here “drill down into the crosstabs” on polls to find information, or the source of it?

I put no stock in anyone’s analysis who won’t provide where they got the data for their assertions (compare Sam Wang and Nate Silver, who provide links to everything they analyse.)

206
Timothy Watson  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:39:38am

re: #174 Ziggy_TARDIS

I did not need to wake up to this news:

[Embedded content]

It looks like African Americans are not turning out to vote. We may actually lose this.

I don’t see what the total number of voters was each year. Is it possible that the same net number of African-Americans are voting but a larger net of Hispanics and Whites are taking advantage of early voting?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:39:40am

re: #194 Ziggy_TARDIS

ABC: this race changed 13 points in a week

This, by the way, is where Silver’s model freaks out via the trendline adjustment. The more a poll produces insane wild swings like this completely out of touch with the rest of the average the more his model treats it like mana from heaven. Makes no sense.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:39:55am

re: #205 Anymouse

That’s true he doesn’t. He can simply tell me to accept what he writes without evidence.

That is not how assertions work. You make an assertion, you provide the evidence.

How many times have we seen people here “drill down into the crosstabs” on polls to find information, or the source of it?

I put no stock in anyone’s analysis who won’t provide where they got the data for their assertions (compare Sam Wang and Nate Silver, who provide links to everything they analyse.)

There’s a random internet person’s opinion, and a research of a professor of political science with a PhD who’s published a shitload of peer-reviewed papers on exactly this topic. Wow, I can’t decide which to trust more.

209
goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:41:03am
210
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:41:14am

re: #197 Nyet

Um. You understand that they’re not being figurative and actually think BRD is a GmbH?

Yes, I understand that these idiots have no sense of irony.

But there is one thing that stuck in my craw about German reunification: According to the West German Constitution, the country was supposed to reunify by dissolving both the German Federal Republic (West) and the German Democratic Republic (East) and creating an entirely new Republic.

Instead, the West just “annexed” the East. And Allianz, Germany’s largest insurance company, acquired a 51% share of the East German state insurance company in one fell swoop.

The government offered an exchange rate for East German Marks that was beneficial for small private savings up to around $25,000, but basically guaranteed that nearly every company in the East went bankrupt, whereupon they were taken over by Western investors.

So there is some degree of substance to their claim that Germany is a corporate state.

211
Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:43:36am

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are not claiming that it’s a corporate state.
They’re claiming that it’s a literal LLC.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:44:03am

re: #208 Nyet

There’s a random internet person’s opinion, and a research of a professor of political science with a PhD who’s published a shitload of peer-reviewed papers on exactly this topic. Wow, I can’t decide which to trust more.

Random person (me): yes.

(Research) Professor of political science specialising in Ghana studies, who has a different CV on the Electionsmith Website from his CV at the University of Florida, still doesn’t mean jack.

He still provided no evidence of his assertions. That is an argument from authority (a logical fallacy).

Dr. Mercola and Dr. Wakefield make all sorts of assertions too, based on the Dr. part of their assertions. That doesn’t make their assertions true, just because they have PhD’s.

I only have a high school diploma, but I understand that providing the evidence of your assertions is what makes real evidence, not simply bleating “I have a doctorate.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:44:43am

re: #211 Nyet

They are not claiming that it’s a corporate state.
They’re claiming that it’s a literal LLC.

I understand that fine distinction.

If West Germany were a corporation, I would have invested in shares long ago…

214
Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:44:55am

There needs to be a push to get Millenials and African Americans to vote in Florida.

215
Timothy Watson  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:45:41am

re: #214 Ziggy_TARDIS

There needs to be a push to get Millenials and African Americans to vote in Florida.

Dude, what do you think the campaign is doing? Sitting on its hands?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:46:58am

re: #214 Ziggy_TARDIS

There needs to be a push to get Millenials and African Americans to vote in Florida.

How about we push to get middle age and older white people to stop being assholes instead of hoping young folks and minorities save us from ourselves?

217
Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:47:35am
219
Timothy Watson  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:48:17am

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

How about we push to get middle age and older white people to stop being assholes instead of hoping young folks and minorities save us from ourselves?

Not much you can do about them with 7 days left until election day. :)

But you can try to knock on every likely Dem out there for GOTV.

220
goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:49:30am

Seriously instead of freaking out you should go find a phone bank in your area and do some GOTV work. It’s not only more productive but it feels better than sitting around kvetching.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:51:06am

re: #212 Anymouse

re: #212 Anymouse

Random person (me): yes.

(Research) Professor of political science specialising in Ghana studies, who has a different CV on the Electionsmith Website from his CV at the University of Florida, still doesn’t mean jack.

Yes, a random person on the internet who can’t even google properly.

“What is claimed at Electionsmith (Professor in Political Science Department since 2010) is different than his page at UF (associate professor, expertise in Ghana)”

people.clas.ufl.edu

Background
Daniel A. Smith, Ph.D.
Professor & UF Research Foundation Professor
Graduate Coordinator
Political Science Internship Coordinator

Areas of Interest/Research
State Politics, Direct Democracy, Voting Rights & Elections

polisci.ufl.edu

Daniel A. Smith - Professor

people.clas.ufl.edu

PEER REVIEWED ARTICLES & BOOK CHAPTERS

Joseph T. Eagleton and Daniel A. Smith, “Drawing the Line: Public Support for Amendments 5 and 6,” in Seth C. Mckee, Jigsaw Puzzle Politics in the Sunshine State (Gainesville: University Press of Florida), pp. 109-125.
Michael C. Herron and Daniel A. Smith, “Precinct Closing Times in Florida during the 2012 General Election,” Election Law Journal (forthcoming, 2015).
Michael C. Herron and Daniel A. Smith, “Race, Shelby County, and the Voter Information Verification Act in North Carolina,” Florida State University Law Review (forthcoming, 2015).
William D. Hicks, Seth C. McKee, Mitchell Sellers, and Daniel A. Smith. 2015. “A Principle or a Strategy? Voter Identification Laws and Partisan Competition in the American States,” Political Research Quarterly 68: 18-33.
Michael C. Herron and Daniel A. Smith. 2014. “Race, Party, and the Consequences of Restricting Early Voting in Florida in the 2012 General Election,” Political Research Quarterly 67: 646-665.
Diana Forster and Daniel Smith. 2014. “Environmental Policies on the Ballot,” in Yael Wolinsky-Nahmias, ed., Changing Climate Politics: US Policies and Civic Action. Washington, DC: CQ Press.
Michael C. Herron and Daniel A. Smith. 2013. “The Effects of House Bill 1355 on Voter Registration in Florida,” State Politics & Policy Quarterly 13: 279-305.
Josh Brodbeck, Matthew T. Harrigan, and Daniel A. Smith, “Citizen and lobbyist access to Members of Congress: Who gets and who gives?” Interest Groups and Advocacy 2: 323-42.
Michael C. Herron and Daniel A. Smith. 2012. “Souls to the Polls: Early Voting in Florida in the Shadow of House Bill 1355,” Election Law Journal 11: 331-47.

From the CV pdf at UoF site:

Ph.D., Political Science, 1994
Major Fields: American Politics, Political Theory, and Public Policy

[…]

ACADEMIC EMPLOYMENT
University of Florida, Gainesville
Professor, Department of Political Science, 2010-
University of Florida Research Foundation Professor, 2010-2012
Graduate Coordinator, 2014-
Associate Chair, 2013-2014
Director, Graduate Program in Political Campaigning, 2007-2011
Affiliate Professor, Center for African Studies, 2010-
Internship Coordinator, Department of Political Science, 2005-
Associate Professor (with tenure), Department of Political Science, 2003-2010
Affiliate Associate Professor, Center for African Studies, 2008-09
University of Denver
Associate Professor (with tenure), Department of Political Science, 2000-2003
Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science, 1994-2000
Director, University of Denver/University of Ghana Study Abroad Program, 1995-2002
University of Ghana
Senior Fulbright Scholar, Department of Political Science, 2000-01
West Virginia University
Visiting Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science, 1993-1994
Beloit College
Visiting Lecturer, Warner Mills Teaching Fellow, Department of Government, 1992-1993
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Teaching Assistant, Department of Political Science, 1988; 1990-1991
Research Assistant, Center on Wisconsin Strategy, 1989-1991
Project Assistant, Department of Political Science, 1989-1990

—————————————————

He still provided no evidence of his assertions. That is an argument from authority (a logical fallacy).

Nice try. But we’re not writing a paper for a peer-reviewed journal here, we’re discussing things on a blog, and an expert’s calculations are more probably true than not (how to interpret them is another matter). The data is authoritative enough for the purposes of present discussion, and that’s all that matters.

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Anymouse  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:51:07am

Well, I am off to bed.

As always, the discussion here is worthwhile and informative. Thanks, y’all.

223
darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:52:34am
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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:53:20am

re: #119 Anymouse

Miami Herald takes Senator Marco Rubio to task in an op-ed:

miamiherald.com

It gets better as it goes on… .

Written by Carl Hiaasen, no less. Wow.

225
goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:55:53am

Also, FYI, Clinton is doing better with white voters this year than Obama did against Romney. So chill out and get shit done.

226
Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:57:26am

re: #225 goddamnedfrank

Also, FYI, Clinton is doing better with white voters this year than Obama did against Romney. So chill out and get shit done.

Good point.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:57:33am

re: #223 darthstar

[Embedded content]

@TheOneTrueChuck has been suspended.
BAM!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:58:23am

re: #217 Ziggy_TARDIS

I just realized, holy shit is the ABC poll historically inaccurate.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 4:59:29am
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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:01:11am

re: #227 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

@TheOneTrueChuck has been suspended.
BAM!

I liked it better when Pamela Geller was Charles’ nemesis. She was all kinds of crazy…but entertaining. This guy’s just a few twitter bans away from getting caught masturbating by an elementary school. There’s nothing endearing about him.

231
darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:03:32am

re: #228 Ziggy_TARDIS

I just realized, holy shit is the ABC poll historically inaccurate.

232
MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:04:35am

re: #119 Anymouse

Miami Herald takes Senator Marco Rubio to task in an op-ed:

miamiherald.com

It gets better as it goes on… .

Blistering article on Rubio.

Hiaasen is amazing. He is one of my “buy it in hardcover” authors.

233
darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:05:15am

re: #228 Ziggy_TARDIS

I just realized, holy shit is the ABC poll historically inaccurate.

Better yet.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:06:47am

re: #230 darthstar

I liked it better when Pamela Geller was Charles’ nemesis. She was all kinds of crazy…but entertaining. This guy’s just a few twitter bans away from getting caught masturbating by an elementary school. There’s nothing endearing about him.

His most recent account was truly vile. I preserved most of them at gotnwes.com. He posted a few more I didn’t include before he apparently called it a night. Or he passed out.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:14:34am
236
Joe Bacon  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:18:06am

Nice to wake up, check LGF and see Ginger Snapped shut down by Twitter yet again. Now how long is is going to take for Twitter to shut down WeSerchr?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:22:09am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:27:27am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

I expect Chuck to be suspended again by the morning.

Bingo!

239
Joe Bacon  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:31:38am

Oh I wonder how Ginger Snapped is gonna make an even bigger fool of himself on his Reddit AMA…

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:35:12am

Is “selective sealioning” a thing?

1. If you don’t like the results provided by an expert, try to find some reason to dismiss the expert. It doesn’t matter if the expert doesn’t seem biased against you on the first look. There’s always something.
For example, google for his university page, find an old, out-of-date one, which lists his old title.
Do not bother to search further, run with the very first result you’ve gotten.
Voila, an expert becomes a fraud who lies about his affiliation!

2. Ask for each step of the calculation leading to the result you don’t like. Question each step. A word of an expert doesn’t mean anything if you don’t like the result, it’s worth as much as that of a random person. So get down to brass tacks. It doesn’t matter that the expert appears to know what they’re doing (like having many peer-reviewed papers on the topic) and they’re not making an extraordinary claim but performing a mundane calculation. You might not be able to evaluate the raw data, but demand it anyway. If it’s not provided, declare victory.

3. Do not repeat the procedure if you like the results.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:37:21am

re: #72 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I am doing an AMA tomorrow on Reddit with the donald
— Chuck Johnson (@theonetruechuck) November 1, 2016

I’m guessing this is bullshit.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:38:01am

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:42:01am

re: #232 MsJ

Blistering article on Rubio.

Hiaasen is amazing. He is one of my “buy it in hardcover” authors.

It’s a good one for sure.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:43:00am

re: #241 Dr. Matt

I’m guessing this is bullshit.

Sadly, no. He says he’ll be there at 7 pm.

reddit.com

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:46:41am

re: #244 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sadly, no. He says he’ll be there at 7 pm.

reddit.com

Shit plastered I have to think.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:49:06am

re: #244 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sadly, no. He says he’ll be there at 7 pm.

reddit.com

When he says “…AMA tomorrow on Reddit with the donald”, does that mean with Donald Trump?

note: I have no idea how Reddit works, so my questions may be ignorant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:51:21am
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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:51:56am

re: #244 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He can’t help but lie even in the smallest details:

I’m also responsible for giving you the Malik Obama show. I brought both Malik Obama and Bill Clinton rape victim, Kathy Shelton, to the Presidential debates.

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Jayleia  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:52:58am

re: #246 Dr. Matt

Not with The Donald J. Trump, but on a forum on reedit called The_Donald. Reedit is like a forum run by two different Charles Johnsons. You find some REALLY COOL stuff there…

…and you also find turds on the floor.

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BadgerB  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:53:53am

re: #246 Dr. Matt

When he says “…AMA tomorrow on Reddit with the donald”, does that mean with Donald Trump?

No, there is a group (or ‘sub-reddit’ as the kids call it) called The_Donald that will be hosting the AMA. The_Donald is all right wing red meat all the time, my advice, don’t go in there, they have cooties.

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jeffreyw  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:53:58am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:55:08am

re: #249 Jayleia

re: #250 BadgerB

Ah. Thanks

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:57:31am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

I expect Chuck to be suspended again by the morning.

Done. And Done.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 5:57:52am

re: #251 jeffreyw

Oh, man, that looks good!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:02:51am

he is awake:

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:06:19am

re: #251 jeffreyw

I’d eat that!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:11:06am

I am feeling incredibly queasy. Not sure how I am going to eat today.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:12:13am

So, everyone remembers that nearly $1 billion loss Trump took on his tax return, which could have wiped out his need to pay federal income tax for nearly 20 years?

Well, folks have been digging around Trump’s bankruptcy filings and other court papers, and they have found a few more curious things that may help inform Trump’s tax mess. Tax Notes reports a bunch of curiosities with Trump’s tax loss and its relationship to various bankruptcy filings and debt offerings. Tax Notes refers to the Tax Policy Center’s analysis.

In fact, it suggests that Trump was stretching the tax law beyond all reasonable measures (and could explain why he’s constantly under audit). For one thing, Trump didn’t just engage in a partnership equity for debt swap. He inserted a funding corporation into that structure, which means that the debt that was exchanged wasn’t even the debt of the partnership. This could have helped Trump avoid nearly half a billion dollars right there, but it also raises questions as to why the losses weren’t zeroed out when the debt connected to them was discharged.

We’re talking about creative financing and tax practice that was intended to shield Trump from all kinds of tax liability, and in the process appears to have stretched the bounds of what is considered acceptable tax practice (go figure).

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:12:30am
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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:13:42am

re: #257 Ziggy_TARDIS

This too shall pass.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:13:44am

Ah, conservatives afraid of voters and voting - and October surprises that might not have their intended effect.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:15:11am

re: #261 lawhawk

Ah, conservatives afraid of voters and voting - and October surprises that might not have their intended effect.

What this election is demonstrating is that white men are allowed to get away with a lot.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:16:01am

re: #261 lawhawk

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Ah, conservatives afraid of voters and voting - and October surprises that might not have their intended effect.

He really is a whiny little asshole isn’t he? He would not care about early voting if the numbers looked bad for Clinton.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:17:38am

re: #257 Ziggy_TARDIS

I am feeling incredibly queasy. Not sure how I am going to eat today.

Don’t get angry. Don’t get mad. Don’t boo. Don’t get too stressed. Vote. Do what you can to help others get to the polls. Make sure people know the issues, especially on down ballot races.

There’s way too much poll volatility to draw any meaningful conclusion other than pollsters are up to their usual end-of-election season efforts to try and get to where they think the outcome will be.

The odds of Clinton winning are still quite high, and that means making sure getting out to vote, and voting GOPers out of office, especially in the Senate, where they’re already pushing for 4 more years of obstructionism, particularly on judicial nominees. This cannot be tolerated or allowed, when the GOP has spent years obstructing everything the sitting president has done, and obstructed the confirmation of a presidential supreme court nominee simply because he’s the president’s choice- not because he’s unqualified or anything of the sort.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:21:18am
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Belafon  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:24:28am

re: #265 Nyet

Ben just knows - knows - that when all of “those” people are lined up against the wall, he’ll get to stand with the true patriots (tm).

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:25:49am

I will be going down to the Clinton office in Dallas shortly.

I will see what I can do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:26:35am
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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:28:27am

re: #267 Ziggy_TARDIS

One of the reasons for turnout among African Americans being down, particularly in NC, is that the NC GOP has managed to reduce the number of polling places, making it more difficult to go vote. That has consequences.

The GOP is sustained by lousy voting turnout. They need to suppress voter turnout to ensure continued control in Congress, and even at the state level.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:30:15am

What does D+10 mean?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:30:25am

heh…

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Jayleia  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:31:34am

re: #257 Ziggy_TARDIS

One thing I’ve found that helps in cases of knowing you have to get food, but not wanting to eat……don’t eat, drink. Not alcohol though.

Something that’s easy to make (or pre-made), nutritious, at least somewhat filling and tastes relatively good. Try something like supplement drink like Ensure or Boost, I used a few of those when I had my front teeth removed for my partial. Another thing I use now is Muscle Milk or a similar high-protein drink.

Besides, they have the electrolytes plants crave!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:31:44am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

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heh…

That’d be like calling me a lawyer.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:31:48am

re: #270 MsJ

What does D+10 mean?

Without being able to look, it sounds like someone complaining about there being more Democrats sampled than Republicans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:32:41am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:34:18am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bad for Toomey too. Not worried about PA. She’s had a healthy lead there through out.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:36:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:42:13am

one more oh-too-cute Halloween costume pic:

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:44:04am
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jeffreyw  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:45:15am

re: #254 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

re: #256 Emptor scriptor Remorse

Thanks! Just your basic spaghetti sammich.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:45:54am

re: #261 lawhawk

This election conclusively demonstrates why early voting should be limited dramatically
— Ben Shapiro

Conclusively! Dramatically!

Wingnuts just hate voting.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:46:27am

re: #279 MsJ

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Yeah not buying it especially given Trump’s Pro Putin stance.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:46:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:46:51am
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Belafon  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:46:56am

re: #281 Sir John Barron

Conclusively! Dramatically!

Wingnuts just hate voting.

He just knows that everyone would have changed their minds if they knew about Clinton’s emails.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:47:02am

re: #281 Sir John Barron

Conclusively! Dramatically!

Wingnuts just hate voting.

Wish they wouldn’t vote themselves if they hate it so much.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:47:06am

re: #21 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:48:09am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ew, turning on my local TV to get more info.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:50:25am

re: #285 Belafon

He just knows that everyone would have changed their minds if they knew about Clinton’s emails.

Because the emails have not been talked about at all in this election.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:50:25am

re: #266 Belafon

Ben just knows - knows - that when all of “those” people are lined up against the wall, he’ll get to stand with the true patriots (tm).

Baby Whiplash claims that young Black men get shot by police because they are “thugs” but guess what he dressed up as for Halloween?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:50:52am

file this one under “no shit, Dick Tracy”:

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:51:12am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:52:01am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

file this one under “no shit, Dick Tracy”:

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Yeah no kidding.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:53:12am

re: #257 Ziggy_TARDIS

I am feeling incredibly queasy. Not sure how I am going to eat today.

How long has it been since your last period?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:54:47am

re: #199 goddamnedfrank

Lastly remember that Trump still hasn’t got jack shit in the way of ground game infrastructure or experience.

Clinton can lose Florida, North Carolina, Iowa, Ohio, and Nevada and still win. To me that seems like the worst case scenario that’s even possible.

Yeah, needs to hold NH and PA, especially. But I think she’ll win NC and she’s been looking good in Nevada.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:55:19am

The Stark girls on Halloween.

Instagram

👑everyone loves a hash brownie👑

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:56:09am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash claims that young Black men get shot by police because they are “thugs” but guess what he dressed up as for Halloween?

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Looks like Justin Bieber…

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 6:58:57am
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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:01:13am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:01:22am

Automatic Blocking Function Triggered

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:01:24am

re: #295 Sir John Barron

Yeah, needs to hold NH and PA, especially. But I think she’ll win NC and she’s been looking good in Nevada.

I feel good about VA too. As I’ve been saying, she has a lot going right for her. He needs everything to go right for him and wrong for her. It’s not impossible but very unlikely.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:03:21am

But let’s obsess over Weiner’s emails.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:05:47am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:05:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:06:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:07:12am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:07:38am

re: #303 darthstar

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Scott does know that the majority of voters approve of Obama. Oh wait, this is the dolt that couldn’t outlast Ben Carson in the GOP primary.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:08:05am

re: #287 The Vicious Babushka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:08:49am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:09:49am

re: #308 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:10:07am

re: #301 HappyWarrior

I feel good about VA too. As I’ve been saying, she has a lot going right for her. He needs everything to go right for him and wrong for her. It’s not impossible but very unlikely.

Oh yeah, I’m assuming VA is a lock.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:12:00am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:12:36am

re: #311 Sir John Barron

Oh yeah, I’m assuming VA is a lock.

Yeah I don’t think Trump has led here once since Labor Day.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:12:58am

re: #311 Sir John Barron

Oh yeah, I’m assuming VA is a lock.

At the end of the day she’ll carry OH, PA, FL, VA, CO, NV and maybe even AZ and fucking UT.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:15:58am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:16:13am

heh

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:17:23am

Even if Donnie got all the debate questions in advance he wouldn’t be able to answer them coherently.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:18:36am

re: #316 darthstar

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Heh.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:19:57am

re: #318 The Vicious Babushka

Even if Donnie got all the debate questions in advance he wouldn’t be able to answer them coherently.

I haven’t figured out which debate questions Brazile would have given Clinton in advance. She wasn’t one of the moderators.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:20:31am

re: #318 The Vicious Babushka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:20:55am

LOL!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:21:32am

re: #320 Belafon

I haven’t figured out which debate questions Brazile would have given Clinton in advance. She wasn’t one of the moderators.

It was supposedly one of the debates with Bernie, IIRC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:22:34am
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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:23:09am

re: #322 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:24:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:25:21am

re: #325 lawhawk

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hahahahaaaaa

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:25:59am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:28:20am

re: #326 lawhawk

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I checked 538 circa 2012. The rate Obama was favored to win is very close to what Hillary is now. That’s why I’m not panicking as well as that I know that Clinton leads in enough states. It’s just not going to be the landslide it should be which disappoints me but fah.

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b.d.  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:28:23am

Donna Brazile can get CNN debate questions and forward them to Clinton but Donald’s CNN paid inside man, Corey Lewandowski, can’t get squat for him?

Another bad business failure?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:29:23am

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Typical.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:29:33am

A message to VOTE, in spoiler because it may not be SFW (but the people really aren’t naked)

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:31:56am

So I did a thing and lined up all of Hillary’s “safe” states and I have her at 264 EV.* For the moment I’m not giving her Nevada, NC or FL. She will need to win one of those states.

*I’m assuming she carries PA, Michigan, Wisconsin, New Mexico, Colorado, NH, VA, gets 2 of Maine’s “at-large” EVs (Maine awards 2 others by CD). I’m not giving her the one Nebraska EV which is by CD but neither that or Maine’s 2 CD votes will matter much. She will need to win Nevada, or NC or FL anyway.

So I think that’s where we are.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:34:04am

re: #333 Sir John Barron

So I did a thing and lined up all of Hillary’s “safe” states and I have her at 264 EV.* For the moment I’m not giving her Nevada, NC or FL. She will need to win one of those states.

*I’m assuming she carries PA, Michigan, Wisconsin, New Mexico, Colorado, NH, VA, gets 2 of Maine’s “at-large” EVs (Maine awards 2 others by CD). I’m not giving her the one Nebraska EV which is by CD but neither that or Maine’s 2 CD votes will matter much. She will need to win Nevada, or NC or FL anyway.

So I think that’s where we are.

Sounds right to me and I honestly feel good about those three states you have up in the air. I understand why people feel anxious. A lot is at sake here but I feel pretty good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:34:24am
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Slap  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:35:03am

Hiya, everybody! Just doing a drive-by to say hello, to thank all of you for your raging against the machine and keeping the faith. I read and observe — LGF and Stonekettle are my islands of sanity on the net.

Oh, and a belated Happy Halloween. Here’s a photo of the 2016 Slappyfamily tableau for ya….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:37:23am
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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:39:48am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was supposedly one of the debates with Bernie, IIRC.

That would have been my guess. She had to prepare against Bernie because the debates were about policy. Trump was just a Jerry Springer Show stage prop.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:41:48am
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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:42:41am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:43:39am

re: #334 HappyWarrior

Sounds right to me and I honestly feel good about those three states you have up in the air. I understand why people feel anxious. A lot is at sake here but I feel pretty good.

For the moment, I feel best about Nevada, of those three.

It’s a shame it’s come to this, counting EV’s, hoping for 270, but that’s where we are. If D’s take the Senate, they can nuke the filibuster and appoint Scalia’s replacement, and I won’t bat an eye—the GOP is disqualifying itself from any claim to political norms. Anything less than 300 EV’s for HRC and Trump will stomp his feet and claim it’s all rigged and not concede but he will be irrelevant.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:45:02am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ll be appearing on The Alex Jones Show this afternoon around 3:30 pm.
— Bill Mitchell

Well, that’s where all the top, credible election analysts and political observers go, sure.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:46:22am

re: #341 Sir John Barron

I feel a bit better about Florida, as someone pointed out that most Hispanics in the state are not registered with either party, and they are breaking by at least +20 for Clinton.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:47:29am

re: #341 Sir John Barron

For the moment, I feel best about Nevada, of those three.

It’s a shame it’s come to this, counting EV’s, hoping for 270, but that’s where we are. If D’s take the Senate, they can nuke the filibuster and appoint Scalia’s replacement, and I won’t bat an eye—the GOP is disqualifying itself from any claim to political norms. Anything less than 300 EV’s for HRC and Trump will stomp his feet and claim it’s all rigged and not concede but he will be irrelevant.

I’d rank them: Nevada, Florida, and North Carolina if I had to think about it. I’m definitely down with that though too. The GOP has vowed to block anyone Clinton picks for the court. They play hardball, we’ll play it back.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:47:54am

re: #344 HappyWarrior

I’d do Nevada, NC, Florida.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:49:06am

re: #343 Ziggy_TARDIS

I feel a bit better about Florida, as someone pointed out that most Hispanics in the state are not registered with either party, and they are breaking by at least +20 for Clinton.

I feel good about Florida as well. It’s worth pointing this out regarding Florida but Obama won it by less than a point against Romney and just under 3 against McCain. You have to ask me. I think she wins it maybe by four. I really think the Hispanic vote is going to play a big role in a Clinton win.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:50:42am

re: #345 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’d do Nevada, NC, Florida.

I actually feel good about NC as well honestly but it’s the least reliably Democratic of the three. However, Burr may have really stepped in shit with his gun owner comment and McCrory isn’t too popular either. The two I honestly once felt confident about that I no longer do are Iowa and Ohio and they may surprise me yet.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:54:23am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:54:50am

And I guess this means nothing but I feel pretty good too since my Dad put a bet on the election with a wingnut friend of his. Never known my Dad to be a betting man. I’m honestly just not seeing how Trump can win. I don’t feel he has enough of a ceiling electorally to beat Clinton. His floor is higher than it should be of course but his ceiling isn’t going to propel him to victory IMO.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:55:52am

re: #348 The Vicious Babushka

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We’re talking about a guy whose idea of African-American outreach is to tell them they live in hellholes. Not surprised that he doesn’t know shit about the reality of Detroit and Michigan.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:57:02am

I also wouldn’t fret much about the “She might win the popular vote and lose the electoral vote” talk. That’s just pretty rare, even though it happened just 16 short years ago. The larger her popular vote lead the more likely the EV will follow. The polling average still has her in the +4-5 point range, meaning the race could still narrow some without changing the main trend.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:58:55am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash claims that young Black men get shot by police because they are “thugs” but guess what he dressed up as for Halloween?

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Nothing worse than a tight-ass white boy like Benny doing all the cliches that he thinks makes him look like a thug.

This “look” is about as real as James O’Keefe trying to look like a pimp.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:59:27am

re: #351 Sir John Barron

I also wouldn’t fret much about the “She might win the popular vote and lose the electoral vote” talk. That’s just pretty rare, even though it happened just 16 short years ago. The larger her popular vote lead the more likely the EV will follow. The polling average still has her in the +4-5 point range, meaning the race could still narrow some without changing the main trend.

I took that as Nate just noting it as a possibility. It’s a very rare event. Honestly, I think Nate understandably wants to cover all the possibilities that he feels can happen a week from now. I don’t hold it against him but not all possibilities are created equal IMO.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:59:47am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

I actually feel good about NC as well honestly but it’s the least reliably Democratic of the three. However, Burr may have really stepped in shit with his gun owner comment and McCrory isn’t too popular either. The two I honestly once felt confident about that I no longer do are Iowa and Ohio and they may surprise me yet.

I was hopeful about Ohio until recently. The Comey letter probably put the nail in the coffin for those two states, if there was any chance at all there. About Iowa, Mike freaking Dukakis won Iowa in 1988. So, the demographic changes that are helping Dems in some places (mostly the upper South and Hispanic West) are being balanced out by shifts elsewhere (White Mid-West).

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John Carter  Nov 1, 2016 • 7:59:55am

re: #185 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’m not a concern troll. I have, among other things, an Anxiety Disorder that causes me to get panicky in a huge hurry.

Especially now, since I am under stress other than the election.

Then let me offer some friendly advice, walk away for a week. You are too close and it is not your health.

Decide you live in a universe that HRC wins and move on. That is what will happen anyway.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:01:08am

re: #340 lawhawk

A deer with natty dreads. So Southern California.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:02:44am

re: #355 John Carter

Decide you live in a universe that HRC wins and move on. That is what will happen anyway.

Great…now I’m depressed.
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Belafon  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:03:52am

re: #357 darthstar

Great…now I’m depressed.
//

You can just decide to live in a universe where Bernie wants Clinton to win the election.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:05:10am

re: #354 Sir John Barron

I was hopeful about Ohio until recently. The Comey letter probably put the nail in the coffin for those two states, if there was any chance at all there. About Iowa, Mike freaking Dukakis won Iowa in 1988. So, the demographic changes that are helping Dems in some places (mostly the upper South and Hispanic West) are being balanced out by shifts elsewhere (White Mid-West).

Hell Dukakis won West Virginia and while HW Bush won PA, Dukakis won in Western Pa whereas Obama and likely Clinton will likely only win in Allegheny County and struggle in the Pittsburgh burbs and beyond. It’s unfortunate since this is actually my family’s ancestral hometurf but the white midwest has become fertile Republican ground as Republicans take advantage of resentments about trade and immigration. Now the good news is the Dems are making big gains in areas like the upper South and West that are gaining population while these areas are losing population. I also don’t see any Republican candidate in the near future having Trump’s appeal to the white working class like he has either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:06:34am

RNC shenanigans in Nevada

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:07:08am

Guys having the same condition that Ziggy does. Be easy on him. I know it can be frustrating but anxiety is a big part of it. I do think you (Zig) need to be more optimistic though for the reasons why I’ve been arguing. Don’t despair.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:07:36am

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

RNC shenanigans in Nevada

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:07:44am

re: #348 The Vicious Babushka

Forbes, of all publications, tosses fact-check shade at Trump’s Michigan rhetoric. forbes.com pic.twitter.com
— Daniel Dale

I wonder why HRC is doing better in Wisconsin and Michigan than in Ohio?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:09:49am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Yeah, it’s pretty weird. Dems have become more environmental in past decades, which has probably hurt them in places like WV.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:10:05am

re: #363 Sir John Barron

I wonder why HRC is doing better in Wisconsin and Michigan than in Ohio?

Less Evangelicals and more college educated people there would be my guess. Nate’s made the point that PA really isn’t as close to OH as people want to think since PA’s got more college educated voters, less evangelicals, etc. The two big things I’d look for in a state would be its education level among white voters and the prevalence of Evangelicals.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:12:07am

re: #361 HappyWarrior

There is more personal drama on top the election that is also causing stress, which is making me gloomier.

It’s not just the election.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:12:20am

re: #333 Sir John Barron

So I did a thing and lined up all of Hillary’s “safe” states and I have her at 264 EV.* For the moment I’m not giving her Nevada, NC or FL. She will need to win one of those states.

*I’m assuming she carries PA, Michigan, Wisconsin, New Mexico, Colorado, NH, VA, gets 2 of Maine’s “at-large” EVs (Maine awards 2 others by CD). I’m not giving her the one Nebraska EV which is by CD but neither that or Maine’s 2 CD votes will matter much. She will need to win Nevada, or NC or FL anyway.

So I think that’s where we are.

My take is—no Democrat is going to lose the Kerry map, especially against Trump. Adding VA and NM, which have become pretty solid Democratic, at least on the Presidential level, that’s 264. NV, CO, IA, OH, NC, or FL would put Clinton over the top. She only has to win one of them, Trump has to win all of them.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:12:47am

re: #322 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOL!

Shoot. I thought Billy Mitchell was faking it because no one can be that freaking dense.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:13:05am

re: #361 HappyWarrior

Guys having the same condition that Ziggy does. Be easy on him. I know it can be frustrating but anxiety is a big part of it. I do think you (Zig) need to be more optimistic though for the reasons why I’ve been arguing. Don’t despair.

I wonder if I was this anxious in 2012? I was here then and could go back over my posts, but I’d prefer not to.

I’m also trying to take the long-view. The Democrats are going to lose some day, again. It might be next week. More likely, four or eight years from now. And many of the same issues that cause concern now will be there then, too. I just hope the GOP gives us a better candidate after this.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:13:13am

re: #364 Sir John Barron

Yeah, it’s pretty weird. Dems have become more environmental in past decades, which has probably hurt them in places like WV.

That and I think the rise in cultural issues being a big decider in votes. I believe Gore’s loss in WV which looks tiny compared to Kerry and Obama’s was attributed to guns. Abortion I believe pushed one of my own great aunts to vote for W over Kerry which stumped my grandmother since her sister had voted for pro-choice Dems before and she’s actually voting for HRC this year.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:14:03am

re: #366 Ziggy_TARDIS

There is more personal drama on top the election that is also causing stress, which is making me gloomier.

It’s not just the election.

Sorry to hear that. Treat yourself to a nice meal or a fun night on the town soon. That may do you some good.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:14:25am

re: #367 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My take is—no Democrat is going to lose the Kerry map, especially against Trump. Adding VA and NM, which have become pretty solid Democratic, at least on the Presidential level, that’s 264. NV, CO, IA, OH, NC, or FL would put Clinton over the top. She only has to win one of them, Trump has to win all of them.

That’s been my thought as well.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:14:50am

re: #267 Ziggy_TARDIS

Not sure how much to read into this, but if the Clinton ground game is dropping the ball on AA voters that would be reason for Dem concern

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:14:50am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:15:15am

re: #369 Sir John Barron

I wonder if I was this anxious in 2012? I was here then and could go back over my posts, but I’d prefer not to.

I’m also trying to take the long-view. The Democrats are going to lose some day, again. It might be next week. More likely, four or eight years from now. And many of the same issues that cause concern now will be there then, too. I just hope the GOP gives us a better candidate after this.

I think I was anxious in 2012 but I think I understand elections better than I did then. Certainly more so than in 2004 when I thought there was no way Kerry would lose to Bush.

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:16:32am

re: #366 Ziggy_TARDIS

There is more personal drama on top the election that is also causing stress, which is making me gloomier.

It’s not just the election.

Then you’d do well to tune out the election and take care of your IRL business.

If you can remove one thing to worry about, do that.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:16:34am

re: #358 Belafon

You can just decide to live in a universe where Bernie wants Clinton to win the election.

I live in a universe where he wants her to not dismiss the Democratic platform from the convention as a gimmick after she’s elected.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:16:46am

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah, I know, the crocodile tears for Bernie from the fucking assholes who liken him to Hugo Chavez is fucking rich.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:19:09am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:20:43am

re: #377 darthstar

I live in a universe where he wants her to not dismiss the Democratic platform from the convention as a gimmick after she’s elected.

I don’t see why she would. There were plenty of people with equally progressive records as Bernie like John Lewis and others that strongly supported her. What I’ve been trying to get across to my brother who like yourself supported Bernie is if Hillary is elected, that means very likely a majority for the Dems in the Senate and Bernie chairing a very important committee, Paul Ryan fretted about this very fact.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:20:46am

re: #370 HappyWarrior

That and I think the rise in cultural issues being a big decider in votes. I believe Gore’s loss in WV which looks tiny compared to Kerry and Obama’s was attributed to guns. Abortion I believe pushed one of my own great aunts to vote for W over Kerry which stumped my grandmother since her sister had voted for pro-choice Dems before and she’s actually voting for HRC this year.

I think cultural issues have been important for a while, that is, things like abortion, patriotism, etc.

But the election of a Black president, the rapid and dramatic shift towards gay rights and gay marriage, coupled with the continuing economic decline in some pockets of the heartland, has magnified the racial and cultural resentment on the part of some. Put it another way, while cultural issues have always mattered, the stakes have gotten higher.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:22:07am

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

Republican bleeding hearts. They are so precious.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:22:47am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Women voters are going to save the country from the stupid voting patterns of males especially white males yet again. God it’s embarassing that my demographic is Republican. Feel even worse for guys like my Dad, 65+, Southern, and HS diploma who don’t fall into the Republican bowl but because he fits that demo, a lot of his peers think he wants to hear their whiny right wing bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:24:52am

re: #381 Sir John Barron

I think cultural issues have been important for a while, that is, things like abortion, patriotism, etc.

But the election of a Black president, the rapid and dramatic shift towards gay rights and gay marriage, coupled with the continuing economic decline in some pockets of the heartland, has magnified the racial and cultural resentment on the part of some. Put it another way, while cultural issues have always mattered, the stakes have gotten higher.

Yes, I think you’re right about that. It’s sad. honestly. Honestly, as much as the bigotry and there certainly is some bigotry in the rust belt and heartland towards gays, racial and religious minorities bothers me, I do feel bad for the people there because I think while they were becoming Reagan Democrats, the Reagan Administration screwed them royally and they blame the wrong people for their communities’ economic declines.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:28:16am

I just wish voters upset about things like NAFTA and trade deals that are Trump curious would look at what he’s actually done. I won’t claim that Clinton’s record matches what they may want on trade but Clinton supported trade deals she thought would be good for everyone, Trump used those same trade deals to personally enrich himself and now that he sees some of the country has been hurt by those deals, he uses it as a cynical political tool to cultivate resentment and votes. Where was Donald when Ross Perot railed against NAFTA?

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:28:35am

re: #363 Sir John Barron

I wonder why HRC is doing better in Wisconsin and Michigan than in Ohio?

As an Ohioan I wish I could give you a reason. My thinking is the polling does not reflect the overall dissatisfaction with the mess this election has been. The people I know don’t even want to talk about it. Many can’t believe Trump is even a candidate.

So, with that I am guessing people are holding their noses and are going to go vote and be done with it. That also means they probably are not taking part in polling or any kind of activity that would give a real indication of their true feelings.

Now Trump supporters are a bit different. They seem to be loud and proud of it all.

Summation: I’m thinking the state is going to go for Hillary in a stealth type of vote that will be close.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:29:48am

re: #386 ObserverArt

As an Ohioan I wish I could give you a reason. My thinking is the polling does not reflect the overall dissatisfaction with the mess this election has been. The people I know don’t even want to talk about it. Many can’t believe Trump is even a candidate.

So, with that I am guessing people are holding their noses and are going to go vote and be done with it. That also means they probably are not taking part in polling or any kind of activity that would give a real indication of their true feelings.

Now Trump supporters are a bit different. They seem to be loud and proud of it all.

Summation: I’m thinking the state is going to go for Hillary in a stealth type of vote that will be close.

Hope you’re right. Ohio going Clinton’s way would be a nice boost.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:33:44am

re: #386 ObserverArt

I would think Wisconsin’s demographics are nearly identical to Ohio’s but WI seems comfortably HRC and Ohio is not. I’ll check out some of the population numbers to confirm.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:34:34am

re: #381 Sir John Barron

I think cultural issues have been important for a while, that is, things like abortion, patriotism, etc.

But the election of a Black president, the rapid and dramatic shift towards gay rights and gay marriage, coupled with the continuing economic decline in some pockets of the heartland, has magnified the racial and cultural resentment on the part of some. Put it another way, while cultural issues have always mattered, the stakes have gotten higher.

Cultural issues have been important since Reagan, but declining. The only time they tilted the election was when GOP ratfuckers put all those anti-SSM initiatives on state ballots in 2004. My personal “average of the polls +2 points D” metric broke. I thought I had to discard it, but in 2012 “average of the polls +3.2 D” is how it turned out.

2004 was a one-time thing. That fresh cohort of troglodytes is baked-in now. Plus, Right-wing disinformation pollsters like Rasmussen are screwing up the average worse every election. Hillary’s ahead 5 or 6 in the polls—I suspect that means 9 or 10 in reality.

Of course I could be fooled again…but by Trump?

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:35:09am

re: #377 darthstar

I live in a universe where he wants her to not dismiss the Democratic platform from the convention as a gimmick after she’s elected.

Remember when the worry was that she was going to pivot to the center for the general election?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:35:56am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:36:27am

re: #389 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Cultural issues have been important since Reagan, but declining. The only time they tilted the election was when GOP ratfuckers put all those anti-SSM initiatives on state ballots in 2004. My personal “average of the polls +2 points D” metric broke. I thought I had to discard it, but in 2012 “average of the polls +3.2 D” is how it turned out.

2004 was i one-time thing. That fresh cohort of troglodytes is baked-in now. Plus, Right-wing disinformation pollsters like Rasmussen are screwing up the average worse every election. Hillary’s ahead 5 or 6 in the polls—I suspect that means 9 or 10 in reality.

Of course I could be fooled again…but by Trump?

We’re thinking the same thing. I’m actually of the belief that the polls may be understating what Clinton may end up finishing.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:37:28am

re: #391 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:37:54am

re: #388 Sir John Barron

I would think Wisconsin’s demographics are nearly identical to Ohio’s but WI seems comfortably HRC and Ohio is not. I’ll check out some of the population numbers to confirm.

Interestingly, a quick check of Wikipedia has the following:

Ohio: 82% White, 12% Black
Wisconsin: 86% White, 6% Black

From those numbers alone, I expect Ohio to be a better HRC state than Wisconsin. But obviously those demographics don’t tell the whole story.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:38:17am

re: #388 Sir John Barron

I would think Wisconsin’s demographics are nearly identical to Ohio’s but WI seems comfortably HRC and Ohio is not. I’ll check out some of the population numbers to confirm.

I wonder if some of the differences between the two states could be about their two Republican governors?

Ohio sadly is somewhat happy with Kasich. Wisconsin may be dumping on Republicans due to Walker.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:40:03am

re: #394 Sir John Barron

Interestingly, a quick check of Wikipedia has the following:

Ohio: 82% White, 12% Black
Wisconsin: 86% White, 6% Black

From those numbers alone, I expect Ohio to be a better HRC state than Wisconsin. But obviously those demographics don’t tell the whole story.

Well, you would need to see what the voters self identify as too. Wisconsin always has had a more progressive tradition than Ohio has. As I said too, I think Ohio has more white Evangelicals than Wisconsin does.

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Interesting Times  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:40:56am

re: #396 HappyWarrior

Well, you would need to see what the voters self identify as too. Wisconsin always has had a more progressive tradition than Ohio has. As I said too, I think Ohio has more white Evangelicals than Wisconsin does.

That’s a good point. Education levels would be something to look at as well, i.e. percentage of college-educated whites.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:40:59am

re: #395 ObserverArt

I wonder if some of the differences between the two states could be about their two Republican governors?

Ohio sadly is somewhat happy with Kasich. Wisconsin may be dumping on Republicans due to Walker.

That could be it too. The Senate races as well. Portman is going to win re-election (Sorry man) while Feingold is very likely to beat Johnson.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:42:16am

re: #396 HappyWarrior

Well, you would need to see what the voters self identify as too. Wisconsin always has had a more progressive tradition than Ohio has. As I said too, I think Ohio has more white Evangelicals than Wisconsin does.

Ohio is home to a pretty progressive tradition as well, particularly with abolitionists. But obviously that’s a much older progressive tradition than the Progressive La Follete represented.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:43:13am

re: #397 Interesting Times

That’s a good point. Education levels would be something to look at as well, i.e. percentage of college-educated whites.

Yes, I’d look at that as well. Now honestly what’s interesting about here in Virginia is the percentage of people that are white and black that vote Democratic and Republican really hasn’t changed that much as the state has become more competitive but the state has grown more diverse. This is a considerably more diverse state in 2016 than it was in my parents childhood or even my own. North Carolina is experiencing a similar thing IMO but on a smaller scale.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:44:08am

re: #396 HappyWarrior

Well, you would need to see what the voters self identify as too. Wisconsin always has had a more progressive tradition than Ohio has. As I said too, I think Ohio has more white Evangelicals than Wisconsin does.

Wisconsin’s across the river from Minnesota. Ohio’s across the river from Kentucky.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:45:16am

re: #399 Sir John Barron

Ohio is home to a pretty progressive tradition as well, particularly with abolitionists. But obviously that’s a much older progressive tradition than the Progressive La Follete represented.

Oh true. And they also have the currently very popular Sherrod Brown who would have made an interesting running mate for HRC. Anyhow, thinking about that, it just speaks to everything has its strengths and weaknesses. I think Brown would have helped Clinton among blue collar white voters whereas I don’t see how he’d make the same impact that Kaine has with Latinos especially. Not that I think Brown is hostile to Latinos nor Kaine to blue collar workers but each man has his strengths.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:45:52am

re: #395 ObserverArt

I wonder if some of the differences between the two states could be about their two Republican governors?

Ohio sadly is somewhat happy with Kasich. Wisconsin may be dumping on Republicans due to Walker.

What about any backlash from the Deplorables to Kasich not backing “his party’s nominee”?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:45:57am

re: #401 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Wisconsin’s across the river from Minnesota. Ohio’s across the river from Kentucky.

Yep that’s true as well.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:46:50am

re: #401 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Wisconsin’s across the river from Minnesota. Ohio’s across the river from Kentucky.

Ah, yes, good point. Southern Ohio more like Kentucky and West Virginia.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:48:35am

What’s crazy to think about though is how in some of what are now some of the most ultra-conservative parts of the country are also some of the areas that Eugene Debs did some of his best in. So, just think some guy now in 2016 rails against socialist Obummer while his great great grandaddy may have pulled the lever for Debs.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:49:30am

Another “barometer” for election results:

Hillsborough County likely to predict winner of presidential election

Hillsborough County’s majority vote has predicted the winner of the presidential election 19 out of the last 20 elections, according to political analysts.

[…]

More than 232,000 votes have been cast in mail-in ballots and early voting in Hillsborough.

So far, democrats lead republicans in voter turnout by 17 percent. Just over 86,000 republicans have voted, compared to about 100,000 democrats.

Perhaps this is why HIllary, Bill, Joe, and Michelle have been spending so much time in the area over the last 2 weeks.

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electrotek  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:49:53am

Goddammit, Hillary critics are grasping for straws here. These asshats, which includes douchebro Gary Johnson supporters, whine about Trump signs being taken out of their yard and making it out to be the worst crime of all.

These people believe that Trump supporters are a peaceful lot and never resort to violence. They keep crying over the freedom of speech argument, but forget this one important part: freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. Plus, free speech only applies to the government, as the government can not infringe upon your speech or expression.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:52:09am

re: #407 Dr. Matt

Another “barometer” for election results:

Perhaps this is why HIllary, Bill, Joe, and Michelle have been spending so much time in the area over the last 2 weeks.

That’s Tampa isn’t it?

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:52:59am

re: #401 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Wisconsin’s across the river from Minnesota. Ohio’s across the river from Kentucky.

And West Virginia. Also next to Indiana and Western Pennsylvania.

You bring up a good point. I don’t know the current populations of the two states, but how many people from surrounding states move into Wisconsin looking for jobs, better life, etc.

Ohio has always gotten a lot of people from Kentucky and West Virginia. Lots of ex-western Pennsylvanians too. Columbus has a large amount of ex PA folks.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:53:56am

re: #409 HappyWarrior

That’s Tampa isn’t it?

Yup.

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John Carter  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:55:14am

re: #407 Dr. Matt

Another “barometer” for election results:

Perhaps this is why HIllary, Bill, Joe, and Michelle have been spending so much time in the area over the last 2 weeks.

I live in Hillsborough County. I voted on Saturday. I already told you all what universe I live in.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:55:55am

re: #411 Dr. Matt

Yup.

I just checked. Obama beat Romney by just over 6% there which no doubt factored big in his overall win in the state since Obama won Florida against Mitt by .87%. I honestly feel pretty good about HRC’s chances in Florida. In fact, I think she could do better than Obama did in margin of victory.

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Jayleia  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:57:12am

Speaking as an Indianapolis resident in very-low middle-class burbs, most of the Republican signs I see, and I see LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of them are for Sandlin, Ping, Speedy, like hundreds of them for those three in the 2 block area I spend the most time…I’ve seen less than a dozen for Hair Furor in that same area.

Only seen one or two Hillary signs though.

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 8:58:59am

re: #403 Sir John Barron

What about any backlash from the Deplorables to Kasich not backing “his party’s nominee”?

I have no feel for that being a city dweller from Columbus. I don’t run into many deplorables.

What really has me perplexed is the northeast sections of the state, the former rust belt of smaller cities that were part of the original industrial revolution. That would be Youngstown, Warren, Mansfield, Akron, Stubenville and the like.

Trump works that area a whole lot and that tells me there are some deeply seated disappointment in the men in that area regarding jobs. They may think a woman is going to do nothing for them as far as jobs, They seem to buy into the “trade” issues and back Trump hoping his promises work out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:00:19am

no thanks, don’t think I want to know a single thing about “baby eating”:

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electrotek  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:01:26am

re: #415 ObserverArt

I have no feel for that being a city dweller from Columbus. I don’t run into many deplorables.

What really has me perplexed is the northeast sections of the state, the former rust belt of smaller cities that were part of the original industrial revolution. That would be Youngstown, Warren, Mansfield, Akron, Stubenville and the like.

Trump works that area a whole lot and that tells me there are some deeply seated disappointment in the men in that area regarding jobs. They may think a woman is going to do nothing for them as far as jobs, They seem to buy into the “trade” issues and back Trump hoping his promises work out.

Honestly, I can’t help but to feel very bad for them. Wish there was more investments in education to help those that were laid off from industries that are no longer viable in that part of the country.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:01:29am

re: #412 John Carter

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John Carter  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:01:47am

re: #414 Jayleia

Speaking as an Indianapolis resident in very-low middle-class burbs, most of the Republican signs I see, and I see LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of them are for Sandlin, Ping, Speedy, like hundreds of them for those three in the 2 block area I spend the most time…I’ve seen less than a dozen for Hair Furor in that same area.

Only seen one or two Hillary signs though.

I have seen 1 Trump sign in my development when there were dozens of Romney signs last cycle. /anecdotal

Again, I live in Hillsborough County FL. She’s got this.

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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:01:52am
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John Carter  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:02:40am

re: #418 Dr. Matt

My experience was similar up in New Tampa.

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:04:04am

re: #423 John Carter

My experience was similar up in New Tampa.

Hold on now, there’s a Neeeeeew Tampa?

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Jay C  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:04:14am

re: #403 Sir John Barron

What about any backlash from the Deplorables to Kasich not backing “his party’s nominee”?

Kasich isn’t running this year (elected 2014): is seems unlikely that any negative attitudes towards him are going to much affect the GE vote. Dedicated Trump voters are going to vote for him in any case, fence-sitters may hold their noses and vote, or ignore the top line, or stay home: but it’s more likely they’ll simply do what they would do anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:04:17am

re: #420 gocart mozart

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I’m going to miss both of them come January.

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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:04:52am
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Mike Lamb  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:06:32am

re: #270 MsJ

What does D+10 mean?

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That doesn’t pass the smell test.

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gocart mozart  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:10:06am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:10:45am

re: #424 KGxvi

Hold on now, there’s a Neeeeeew Tampa?

It’s the area north of the University of South Florida. There’s also a West Tampa, but not a New West Tampa. There’s a South Tampa, but not a New South Tampa.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:11:53am
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Jay C  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:12:09am

re: #428 Mike Lamb

That doesn’t pass the smell test.

No, it doesn’t. What is that comment supposed to mean? That the ABC poll over-sampled Democrats*, so Hillary is toast because so many more of those Dems are now going going to vote for Trump?? Makes little sense.

*assuming that’s what “D+10 biased sample” means (?)

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:12:49am

re: #425 Jay C

Kasich isn’t running this year (elected 2014): is seems unlikely that any negative attitudes towards him are going to much affect the GE vote. Dedicated Trump voters are going to vote for him in any case, fence-sitters may hold their noses and vote, or ignore the top line, or stay home: but it’s more likely they’ll simply do what they would do anyway.

The thing I’m going to be watching for next Tuesday is how many of the Deplorables undervote down ballot races (or vote for third party nominees) because the Republican nominee had the audacity to not fully support Trump. There are six or seven very close Senate races and if a significant number of Deplorables go that route (and let’s face it, they seem to be driven by spite as much as anything), that could result in the Dems sweeping those close races.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:14:06am

re: #433 KGxvi

The thing I’m going to be watching for next Tuesday is how many of the Deplorables undervote down ballot races (or vote for third party nominees) because the Republican nominee had the audacity to not fully support Trump. There are six or seven very close Senate races and if a significant number of Deplorables go that route (and let’s face it, they seem to be driven by spite as much as anything), that could result in the Dems sweeping those close races.

You do see a lot of interviews with them when they say they’re pissed at the establishment R’s. And hey if that weakens the R’s prospects for future midterms, sign me up.

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Jay C  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:14:12am

re: #433 KGxvi

There are six or seven very close Senate races and if a significant number of Deplorables go that route (and let’s face it, they seem to be driven by spite as much as anything), that could result in the Dems sweeping those close races.

Hey, a win’s a win! We can only hope….

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John Carter  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:15:31am

re: #430 Dr. Matt

It’s the area north of the University of South Tampa Florida. There’s also a West Tampa, but not a New West Tampa. There’s a South Tampa, but not a New South Tampa.

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:15:41am

re: #430 Dr. Matt

It’s the area north of the University of South Florida. There’s also a West Tampa, but not a New West Tampa. There’s a South Tampa, but not a New South Tampa.

Reference point:

There’s a New Mexico?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:15:43am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:16:24am

re: #436 John Carter

Thanks. I corrected my typo.

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Weaselone  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:18:59am

Tell me which one of the states Hillary loses to put Trump over 270

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:20:39am

re: #440 Weaselone

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Agreed. When you look at it that way, it’s just very hard for her to lose. As said, there’s so much that has go right for him and wrong for her. And I just don’t see it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:22:40am

re: #441 HappyWarrior

Agreed. When you look at it that way, it’s just very hard for her to lose. As said, there’s so much that has go right for him and wrong for her. And I just don’t see it.

Lotsa folks are happy. The new media have a horse race. And if Hillary wins by anything less than 5 points, it will be painted by the GOP as the result of “meddling” and “voter fraud”.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:23:17am

re: #440 Weaselone

I’ve stopped checking 538 and stopped watching cable news since last week. My blood pressure and state of mind are in much better condition.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:23:58am

re: #441 HappyWarrior

Agreed. When you look at it that way, it’s just very hard for her to lose. As said, there’s so much that has go right for him and wrong for her. And I just don’t see it.

Do I have to come here and do this again?😀

Trump has never led the electoral vote. Not even for one day.

To win He would have to pull off something *no one* has ever done.

Back to our regular programming ( as it were)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:24:24am

re: #444 dangerman

Do I have to come here and do this again?😀

Trump has never led the electoral vote. Not even for one day.

To win He would have to pull off something *no one* has ever done.

Back to our regular programming ( as it were)

Preaching to the choir.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:25:37am

re: #445 HappyWarrior

Preaching to the choir.

It’s either that or stand on a street corner and rave to myself

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:27:57am

re: #446 dangerman

It’s either that or stand on a street corner and rave to myself

Your signs have the best words!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:28:13am

There is a huge wolf spider in my kitchen sink.
My usual spider trapping/relocating equipment is inadequate.
Trying to resist the flamethrower option…

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:28:56am

re: #440 Weaselone

Colorado and New Hampshire have had polls within the margin of error lately. As has Wisconsin. Of course, even if he wins one of those three states, he’d still have to sweep the toss up states.

Also, something that’s not getting a lot of attention but they’ve mentioned a few times on Keepin’ It 1600, is that during the primaries, Trump never out performed his polling numbers. That suggests a less than good ground game/GOTV effort for his campaign. Something tells me that’s going to probably bite him in the ass next Tuesday (not that I’m crying about that)

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:32:02am

re: #448 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is a huge wolf spider in my kitchen sink.
My usual spider trapping/relocating equipment is inadequate.
Trying to resist the flamethrower option…

Flamethrower option seems completely rational to me.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:32:47am

re: #449 KGxvi

Colorado and New Hampshire have had polls within the margin of error lately. As has Wisconsin. Of course, even if he wins one of those three states, he’d still have to sweep the toss up states.

Also, something that’s not getting a lot of attention but they’ve mentioned a few times on Keepin’ It 1600, is that during the primaries, Trump never out performed his polling numbers. That suggests a less than good ground game/GOTV effort for his campaign. Something tells me that’s going to probably bite him in the ass next Tuesday (not that I’m crying about that)

That’s a good point. He never outperformed his polling numbers. As I said earlier, he definitely has a floor and one that is higher than it ought to be but his ceiling is hampered by his weaknesses both as a candidate and how he campaigns, the poor ground game/GOTV is one of those.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:33:09am

re: #448 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is a huge wolf spider in my kitchen sink.
My usual spider trapping/relocating equipment is inadequate.
Trying to resist the flamethrower option…

Nuke it from orbit, only way to be sure

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:33:30am

Trump & Pence in Philly today:

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Le Lapin Tueur  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:34:01am

re: #448 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is a huge wolf spider in my kitchen sink.
My usual spider trapping/relocating equipment is inadequate.
Trying to resist the flamethrower option…

Where are the cats? Or, are those the missing equipment?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:34:12am
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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:34:44am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why would he need a special session?

BECAUSE HE DOESN’T KNOW HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:35:17am

At Clinton office in Dallas.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:36:15am

re: #448 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is a huge wolf spider in my kitchen sink.
My usual spider trapping/relocating equipment is inadequate.
Trying to resist the flamethrower option…

Is that haiku?

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:36:22am

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hello, paging Chief Justice Roberts, hello….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:36:45am

re: #455 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hey Philly, how about the Steelers!

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:39:47am
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dangerman  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:39:53am

Just listened to that last Keith olberman re worse than Watergate

Whether he writes everything himself or has help he/they are on fire. Scathing

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:40:01am
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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:41:12am

re: #458 dangerman

Is that haiku?

Little too wordy for haiku.

Wolf spider crouched
Deep within, untrappable
Resist the flamethrower?

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Mike Lamb  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:41:13am

re: #432 Jay C

No, it doesn’t. What is that comment supposed to mean? That the ABC poll over-sampled Democrats*, so Hillary is toast because so many more of those Dems are now going going to vote for Trump?? Makes little sense.

*assuming that’s what “D+10 biased sample” means (?)

There is no universe where an oversampling of Dems would result in a 13 point swing for Trump. Either the HRC +12 was bunk or Drumpf +1 is.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:41:17am

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:41:58am

re: #461 darthstar

My wanderlust is kicking in something fierce, and Central Coast sounds as good a place to go as any. That’s one part of CA I haven’t spent any significant time in. Driving the PCH would be sweet.

Then again, if I wait til Spring, I could head north to Redwoods and Crater Lake..

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ObserverArt  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:42:07am

Some fun with numbers…Cleveland in the world series of baseball style.

Today is 11-1-2016.

1+11+20+16=48.

The last time the Cleveland Indians won the World Series was 1948.

Heard this on local ESPN radio while making lunch.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:42:21am

re: #458 dangerman

Is that haiku?

NEW Haiku.

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gwangung  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:43:57am

re: #467 lawhawk

My wanderlust is kicking in something fierce, and Central Coast sounds as good a place to go as any. That’s one part of CA I haven’t spent any significant time in. Driving the PCH would be sweet.

Then again, if I wait til Spring, I could head north to Redwoods and Crater Lake..

Pacific Coast Highway is ALWAYS a good stretch to drive.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:44:19am

re: #461 darthstar

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Yup

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:46:37am

re: #470 gwangung

Pacific Coast Highway is ALWAYS a good stretch to drive.

I did that drive from San Francisco to Santa Cruz. Quite honestly, the most beautiful drive I’ve ever done.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:48:09am

J. Edgar Comey…has a certain ring.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:48:32am
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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:48:41am

re: #462 dangerman

Just listened to that last Keith olberman re worse than Watergate

Whether he writes everything himself or has help he/they are on fire. Scathing

The latest is up, and his streak of righteousness is intact.

Is Donald Trump a Russian Agent? | The Closer with Keith Olbermann | GQ

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:50:22am
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blueraven  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:50:39am
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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:51:23am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:51:51am

re: #476 The Vicious Babushka

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Fuck that.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:55:08am

re: #478 darthstar

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Except that’s not what he did.

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darthstar  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:56:16am

re: #480 Mike Lamb

Except that’s not what he did.

So was he being sarcastic? He’s been ranting about the unfairness of it all for days.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:57:42am

LOLOLOLOL!!!

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:59:32am

RIGGED!!!

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:59:40am

re: #481 darthstar

So was he being sarcastic? He’s been ranting about the unfairness of it all for days.

Think the point is that Comey isn’t explicitly helping Putin or being on his payroll, but rather being a useful idiot that’s inadvertently doing Putin’s work in dogging on the Hillary email hunt to the point his FBI is giving ‘real time updates’ on the case.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:59:43am
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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 9:59:48am

Profiles in courage. Ryan votes for Trump, refuses to say his name. The GOP needs to be beaten badly enough to lose control in Congress.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:01:01am

re: #486 lawhawk

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Profiles in courage. Ryan votes for Trump, refuses to say his name. The GOP needs to be beaten badly enough to lose control in Congress.

Ryan’s such a coward.

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Interesting Times  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:01:57am

re: #477 blueraven

You’re from Austin, TX, right? I’ve got a TX anecdote of my own, FWIW:

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:02:17am

re: #473 MsJ

J. Edgar Comey…has a certain ring.

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This is exactly what I was thinking. Shouldn’t he have said to anyone threatening to leak “we don’t interfere in elections, and if anything is leaked you will face federal charges and lengthy prison sentences*”

*I don’t actually know the law and can’t be bothered to find out.

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Bear  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:02:34am

Microsoft hits again. One of their so called upgrades hit one of my computers so now the computer goes to the shop for repair.

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:06:15am
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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:08:07am
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Weaselone  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:08:30am

re: #449 KGxvi

Colorado and New Hampshire have had polls within the margin of error lately. As has Wisconsin. Of course, even if he wins one of those three states, he’d still have to sweep the toss up states.

So:

1. I have to assume the polls that show the most favorable numbers for Trump are the most accurate of all the polls taken for those states.
2. Then I have to look at the 95% confidence interval of those polls, and assume that those polls themselves greatly overstate Clinton’s actual lead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:09:26am

Gov Bevin’s grand idea to replace Kynect is working out soooo much better.
*spit*

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:10:00am

re: #490 Bear

Microsoft hits again. One of their so called upgrades hit one of my computers so now the computer goes to the shop for repair.

Thankfully mine didn’t blow up. Microsoft made it so you cannot disable them doing updates. I find that so dangerous that my computer is under Microsoft’s power. One fucktard at MS who decides to screw the world…that’s all it takes to shut down life…business, personal, everything.

I cannot believe this shit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:10:06am

re: #492 Kragar

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Typical.

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blueraven  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:10:23am

re: #488 Interesting Times

You’re from Austin, TX, right? I’ve got a TX anecdote of my own, FWIW:

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Yep, proud to be from blue Travis county!

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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:10:29am

re: #491 MsJ

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This is really good…be sure to watch it.

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Kryptik: Just Done With It.  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:12:33am

re: #492 Kragar

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If Trump accused anyone of being a werewolf, I’d immediately toss him a Milk-Bone. That’s how far into the projection he is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:18:12am
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MsJ  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:18:13am

SMFH

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:22:01am

Um hey ABC News, that is not what the graph shows.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:22:18am

Donald Trump is due in court after Election Day on child rape. WHERE IS THE MEDIA COVERAGE? rawstory.com

@realDonaldTrump is due in court after Election Day on child rape. WHERE IS THE MEDIA COVERAGE? rawstory.com
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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:22:21am

re: #440 Weaselone

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Those are the same states I’m giving her but I didn’t get 272. Maybe I missed a state or undercounted somewhere.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:22:27am
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Le Lapin Tueur  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:23:30am

re: #491 MsJ

The fire tells me secrets ….

The was a fairly apt description of congress.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:23:41am

re: #502 The Vicious Babushka

Um hey ABC News, that is not what the graph shows.

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math is hard…

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Mike Lamb  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:23:54am

re: #481 darthstar

So was he being sarcastic? He’s been ranting about the unfairness of it all for days.

Saying that Clinton Derangement Syndrome is leading certain factions in the FBI to attack HRC rather than thoroughly investigating Putin/Trump is not linking/connecting anyone to Putin.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:25:11am

re: #504 Sir John Barron

Those are the same states I’m giving her but I didn’t get 272. Maybe I missed a state or undercounted somewhere.

Ah. I missed DC and Hawaii.

Yeah, so I don’t see which of those Hillary states Drumpf wins.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:25:42am

re: #507 Backwoods_Sleuth

They’re doing Trump Math™. It’s the same math that enables him to pay nothing on his taxes, bankrupt casinos, and claim that he can cut taxes for the rich and balance the budget without slashing govt services to the bone AND expand the military and grow the Navy.

IOW, it’s the typical GOP math.

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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:28:23am

re: #448 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is a huge wolf spider in my kitchen sink.
My usual spider trapping/relocating equipment is inadequate.
Trying to resist the flamethrower option…

I understand spiders are living creatures, too, and when they are small, I try live and let live. But last night I found a huge wolf spider in my shower. Used a shoe. Shudder.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:28:23am

re: #505 Charles Johnson

Rage Furby now “rescued someone’s life”? Is this a new story or something I missed?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:28:51am

I’m confident Hillary is going to win both the EC and PV. But the fact it appears to be this close is very disappointing.

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:31:50am

re: #512 Dr. Matt

Someone looked at Chuck and said “I don’t want to end up like that asshole” and turned their whole life around

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Jayleia  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:32:02am

re: #512 Dr. Matt

Can’t make me click on it to find out.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:32:18am

re: #514 Kragar

Someone looked at Chuck and said “I don’t want to end up like that asshole” and turned their whole life around

You win the internet for the day.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:32:22am

re: #511 retired cynic

I understand spiders are living creatures, too, and when they are small, I try live and let live. But last night I found a huge wolf spider in my shower. Used a shoe. Shudder.

The only thing worse than finding a wolf spider, is finding a wolf spider while you’re naked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:32:31am

re: #511 retired cynic

I understand spiders are living creatures, too, and when they are small, I try live and let live. But last night I found a huge wolf spider in my shower. Used a shoe. Shudder.

It’s still in my sink.
I keep thinking maybe it will just go back to wherever it came from…

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:33:10am

re: #518 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s still in my sink.
I keep thinking maybe it will just go back to wherever it came from…

Can’t you like, turn on the hot water full blast or something?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:33:41am

re: #509 Sir John Barron

Ah. I missed DC and Hawaii.

Yeah, so I don’t see which of those Hillary states Drumpf wins.

I could see, perhaps, Trumpf sneaking away with CO or NH. But that’s not giving her either NC or NV. And I don’t think he’s winning NH. Nate Silver has HRC at 70%+ in CO and NH, fwiw—basically the same % as national.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:34:53am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:35:41am

re: #514 Kragar

Someone looked at Chuck and said “I don’t want to end up like that asshole” and turned their whole life around

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Timothy Watson  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:37:09am

re: #511 retired cynic

I understand spiders are living creatures, too, and when they are small, I try live and let live. But last night I found a huge wolf spider in my shower. Used a shoe. Shudder.

Black widows get a death sentence automatically, anything else I try to put outside, but if it surprises me or is freakin huge, screw it, it’s dead. I will pick up harvestmen by a leg and put them outside.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:38:14am

re: #519 The Vicious Babushka

Can’t you like, turn on the hot water full blast or something?

another option…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:38:59am

Public service announcement. For those fellow lizards on mobile devices that have issues with the site crashing when a topic is 500+ comments, Brave browser is your answer. No need to thank me. Cookies will suffice.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:40:06am
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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:40:14am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:40:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:40:38am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:42:00am

re: #512 Dr. Matt

Rage Furby now “rescued someone’s life”? Is this a new story or something I missed?

That’s his story about the floor-pooping incident. He wasn’t the one who pooped, it was someone else, and Chuck somehow saved his life by being there when it happened.

It’s freaking hilarious that he thinks anyone is buying it.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:42:14am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:43:44am
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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:44:04am

Is this for real? TODAY this comes out? My added bold. Edit-Da Fuq???

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This initial release consists of material from the FBI’s files related to the William J. Clinton Foundation, a non-profit 501(c)(3) organization. The bulk of these records come from a 2001 FBI investigation into the pardon of Marc Rich (1934-2013), aka Marcell David Reich, by President Clinton in 2001; it was closed in 2005. The material is heavily redacted due to personal privacy protections and grand jury secrecy rules.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:44:13am

re: #527 Kragar

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Pretty rich considering Dowd worked for the Bush administration that lost a bunch of emails too but please tell us more about how the emails are just awful, Matthew.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:45:08am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:45:25am

re: #535 Charles Johnson

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Both sides, both sides.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:47:11am

re: #533 Rightwingconspirator

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:48:10am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:49:18am

re: #537 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Looks to me like the FBI is trying to influence the outcome of the election.

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lawhawk  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:50:19am

FBI is drowning in a torrent of leaks and data designed to try and influence outcome of election.

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gwangung  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:50:31am

re: #537 Backwoods_Sleuth

What the hell????

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:50:40am
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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:51:21am

re: #539 Dr Lizardo

Looks to me like the FBI is trying to influence the outcome of the election.

Someone sems to think the 60 day rule is 60 seconds before the election. Geez now I gotta re do a Page I have an hour into all about the FBI

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:52:49am

re: #540 lawhawk

FBI is drowning in a torrent of leaks and data designed to try and influence outcome of election.

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Which begs the question, why are they so scared of Hillary Clinton?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:53:50am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:54:43am

The FBI is now a political entity. Great.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:55:42am

re: #546 Dr. Matt

The FBI is now a political entity. Great.

President Clinton is gonna have some serious housecleaning to do over at the FBI come next January.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:55:51am

re: #546 Dr. Matt

The FBI is now a political entity. Great.

Drain The Swamp, indeed.

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Interesting Times  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:55:53am

re: #546 Dr. Matt

The FBI is now a political entity. Great.

At first, I read that as “enemy.” Considering what trump represents, same thing.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:56:58am

re: #547 Dr Lizardo

President Clinton is gonna have some serious housecleaning to do over at the FBI come next January.

Maybe Lynch at DOJ can shutdown the FBI social media accounts. Until we figure what’s going on, of course.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:57:14am

re: #547 Dr Lizardo

President Clinton is gonna have some serious housecleaning to do over at the FBI come next January.

It would be easier, and perhaps better, to reorganize its critical tasks to other agencies and reprogram its funds.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:57:50am

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:57:58am

re: #551 Decatur Deb

It would be easier, and perhaps better, to reorganize its critical tasks to other agencies and reprogram its funds.

Yep.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:58:34am

re: #547 Dr Lizardo

President Clinton is gonna have some serious housecleaning to do over at the FBI come next January.

The ratf0ckery is coming from inside the house.

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wrenchwench  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:59:12am

re: #546 Dr. Matt

The FBI is now a political entity. Great.

There’s a local, governmental bureaucracy with ‘Entity’ in their name.

Says to me, ‘We have no idea what we’re doing. Everything is fine.’

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:59:43am

An FBI Account Just Tweeted Out a Link to Old Clinton Investigation File

Already on Mediaite. Just a matter of time before every network is faux raging.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 1, 2016 • 10:59:54am

re: #547 Dr Lizardo

President Clinton is gonna have some serious housecleaning to do over at the FBI come next January.

Does Comey still head the FBI? Maybe he can check out what his agency is doing on social media?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:00:15am

I just can’t even

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:01:50am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:02:02am

re: #552 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY

THEY ARE CHARACTERS FROM A KID’S BOOK

You did not do a proper Complimentary Close, e.g.

THEY ARE CHARACTERS FROM A KID’S BOOK , ASSHOLE.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:02:08am

re: #552 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY

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But we knew that was coming as soon as we saw the head wrap… LOL. I think Trudeau is trollin’. ;)

Hey wingnuts, DO YOU EVEN READ BRO?

(no, no they don’t)

I mean, Saint Ex is just some faggy French guy who was probably Mewzlim anyway, or whatever… Gods help us all

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:02:10am

@FBIRecordsVault account has 131 tweets since joining twitter in November 2011.
In addition to today’s tweet, 20 of those 131 tweets were made on Sunday.
Last tweet before that was October 8, 2015.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:03:14am

re: #561 Pawn of the Oppressor

But we knew that was coming as soon as we saw the head wrap… LOL. I think Trudeau is trollin’. ;)

Hey wingnuts, DO YOU EVEN READ BRO?

(no, no they don’t)

I mean, Saint Ex is just some faggy French guy who was probably Mewzlim anyway, or whatever… Gods help us all

It’s been many, many years since I read Le Petit Prince but does it take place in North Africa?

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:05:36am

And it’s probably a sure bet that the public won’t know who is tweeting from @FBIRecordsVault until after the election. Where the hell is Loretta Lynch?

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:07:14am

re: #558 The Vicious Babushka

I just can’t even

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:08:08am

Weirdly eclectic tweet dump on Sunday.
All sorts of policy guidelines (including ethics and integrity policy guide) and then files about 2015 protests in Baltimore, Petraeus investigation, Hillary R. Clinton as SoS, Nikola Tesla (!), and Fred C. Trump.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:08:11am

re: #564 Dr. Matt

And it’s probably a sure bet that the public won’t know who is tweeting from @FBIRecordsVault until after the election. Where the hell is Loretta Lynch?

Still in hiding after talking to Bill at the airport.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:08:48am

re: #563 The Vicious Babushka

I think so. I found an online summary that says the pilot crashes in the Sahara. Saint-Ex did a lot of flying over North Africa, if I remember right, so he was writing about what he knew.

Since it’s a French-language book, of course it has double relevance to Canadians. And it’s a literary reference, so good job Trudeau & son. :) I always have trouble coming up with costume ideas, so I doubly admire good costumes.

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:10:39am

Is Comey working out some fucked-up take on score-settling here?

He seems to hold a grudge just like Trump.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:10:43am

Yes, the “Green” Party has Endorsed Trump Over Clinton

…A Clinton presidency is D A N G E R O U S … If a Trump presidency would mean that we have to fight ignorants in the streets—I’m ready for that. “

Assholes.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 1, 2016 • 11:10:59am

re: #552 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY

THEY ARE CHARACTERS FROM A KID’S BOOK

Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

If you’re an aviator, you have to remove your hat when you mention his name. I think it’s a condition of the licence or something.


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