And Now, a Horror Story Told in Hand-Drawn Animation: “DARK MIXER”

Simple yet unsettling
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DARK MIXER Film
2014 / Animated Film / B&W / 16:9 / stereo / 4min 55sec
Direction, Drawing, Sound : Hirotoshi Iwasaki

This work has a “motion’s dépaysement” in the concept that extracts the motion from existing video and transposes and transformation to animation. When I remix reality that our own way of thinking, objects come out. It evokes the contents of unconscious mixer and also I can say it is “DARK MIXER”.

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Grand Prix non-narrative short at Holland Animation Film Festival 2015

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393 comments

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:34:54pm

It evokes the contents of unconscious mixer.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:35:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:38:41pm
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JordanRules  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:40:26pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:40:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:41:44pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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Yep. Must be fucking nice.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:41:50pm

Plastic Surgeon: New York Women Dropping $50k to Look Like Ivanka Trump (goes to Raw Story)

Dr. Norman Rowe told the paper [the New York Post] that since last summer, up to 50 clients have come into his office with dreams of transforming their faces into President Donald Trump’s little girl — asking for widened cheekbones, a slender nose and large eyes.

According to the report, patients are willing to fork over $30K-$40K for Botox — and even up to $50K for what he calls the “Permanent Ivanka,” which includes cheek implants and rhinoplasty.

“I never saw [anyone drawing inspiration from Ivanka’s face] before the primary,” said Rowe.

Rowe says that Donald Trump’s oldest daughter now rivals Kylie Jenner as the most sought-after celebrity face.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:42:46pm

By normalizing Spicer, it makes a lot of our criticisms of this administration look like a joke. I mean yeah we do need to laugh but at the same time, Spicer had no problem lying for this administration and demonizing people who opposed it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:43:19pm

re: #7 Anymouse 🌹

Plastic Surgeon: New York Women Dropping $50k to Look Like Ivanka Trump (goes to Raw Story)

If she wants to waste her money on that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:44:25pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

By normalizing Spicer, it makes a lot of our criticisms of this administration look like a joke. I mean yeah we do need to laugh but at the same time, Spicer had no problem lying for this administration and demonizing people who opposed it.

No, it makes them look complicit.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:49:32pm

Remember, it’s heritage not hate

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:50:42pm

re: #7 Anymouse 🌹

Plastic Surgeon: New York Women Dropping $50k to Look Like Ivanka Trump (goes to Raw Story)

There are women who pay to look like Barbie or other uncanny-valley dolls. I’m not really surprised.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:51:28pm

re: #7 Anymouse 🌹

It amazes me the things people would rather have than money.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:53:23pm

Ivanka herself had plastic surgery to look like Ivanka.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:55:02pm

Some cultures “save face” some sell them.
Ugh.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:56:12pm

Man, it’s been a tough week for RWNJs in the Virginia’s, and now this

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:56:13pm

Also, is it my imagination or are media sites getting fucking awful about using videos that follow you all over the page?

I like LGFs feature of this nature because 1) it’s NOT intrusive and 2) It can be easily closed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:56:39pm

re: #16 FormerDirtDart

Man, it’s been a tough week for RWNJs in the Virginia’s, and now this

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I blame Bad Hombres.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:57:06pm

Jut got a call from a survey company asking about my television watching habits.

Apparently she was confused with “We don’t own a television set and cable service is not available here.” She kept trying to get me to clarify that response to try to get it to fit to the answers she did have.

There are an awful lot of corporations and people who are not aware that every First World whizbang thing is not available in all parts of the nation.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:58:18pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

Jut got a call from a survey company asking about my television watching habits.

Apparently she was confused with “We don’t own a television set and cable service is not available here.” She kept trying to get me to clarify that response to try to get it to fit to the answers she did have.

There are an awful lot of corporations and people who are not aware that every First World whizbang thing is not available in all parts of the nation.

There are places in the US where one cannot get competent broadband. Ask my folks, who are literally just a couple of blocks away from a fiber network, but because of the county boundary, they are denied access to truly modern Internet. Instead, they’re stuck on a DSL line that is effectively the 56k dial-up of the current decade.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 6:59:58pm

re: #20 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

There are places in the US where one cannot get competent broadband. Ask my folks, who are literally just a couple of blocks away from a fiber network, but because of the county boundary, they are denied access to truly modern Internet. Instead, they’re stuck on a DSL line that is effectively the 56k dial-up of the current decade.

Same here. There is a Google fibre optic line that runs two blocks from my house.

It runs right past our town. I have DSL that ofttimes is as slow as dial-up (when it is working at all).

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:01:52pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:04:34pm

Well, since I’m not watching the PBS special, I’m listening to the Broadway soundtrack (not the movie soundtrack) to “Hair.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:04:58pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹

Well, since I’m not watching the PBS special, I’m listening to the Broadway soundtrack (not the movie soundtrack) to “Hair.”

Continuing the binge-watching of Supergirl with my lovely Mrs. Fish.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:06:30pm

Hurricane Warnings went up in the Lesser Antilles from Hurricane Maria, with watches in the Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico.

nhc.noaa.gov

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:07:38pm

re: #24 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Continuing the binge-watching of Supergirl with my lovely Mrs. Fish.

It has been a productive day at casa klys and I am ready for dinner. Unfortunately there are still things on the to do list.

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calochortus  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:10:44pm

re: #26 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It has been a productive day at casa klys and I am ready for dinner. Unfortunately there are still things on the to do list.

It has been a productive weekend here as well. However, the list goes on and on. It is the nature of lists to do so.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:11:36pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

Jut got a call from a survey company asking about my television watching habits.

Apparently she was confused with “We don’t own a television set and cable service is not available here.” She kept trying to get me to clarify that response to try to get it to fit to the answers she did have.

There are an awful lot of corporations and people who are not aware that every First World whizbang thing is not available in all parts of the nation.

Heh. Here is a TV star who doesn’t own a TV. Way to promote the industry, Shailene!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:12:04pm

re: #26 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It has been a productive day at casa klys and I am ready for dinner. Unfortunately there are still things on the to do list.

I did hamburgers in one pan whilst frying the rest of the tube of beef into taco meat for freezing (for Mrs. Fish to use) in another pan, simultaneously. And I mowed our 2.5’ tall back yard before coming in to cook. I actually adulted today. What the hell happened to me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:12:48pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:14:56pm

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

I kind of get where she’s coming from. If you take phone calls all day at work, the LAST thing you want to do when you get home is be on the damn phone.

HOWEVER, at an industry gala one should still be smart enough to make some bullshit to look good when it counts.

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calochortus  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:16:20pm

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

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KingKenrod  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:19:17pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:20:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:26:55pm

Not going to bother arguing with people who think it’s great that the Emmys put Sean Spicer on. Just no point. If they haven’t seen what’s going on by now, I’m not going to convince them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:30:29pm

Had I been quicker on that phone survey about television, I might have answered “I don’t watch anything on TV, I read.”

I am sad to report though, after having a subscription for years to the print edition of Foreign Affairs, I’ve not read about a single illicit overseas romance in that magazine.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:30:31pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Not going to bother arguing with people who think it’s great that the Emmys put Sean Spicer on. Just no point. If they haven’t seen what’s going on by now, I’m not going to convince them.

Why would giving that clown any kind of air time whatsoever be a good thing? I don’t get it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:33:53pm

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

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HappyWarrior  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:38:15pm

re: #37 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Why would giving that clown any kind of air time whatsoever be a good thing? I don’t get it.

I don’t either.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:38:51pm

SPLC is publishing a 5-part field guide to the religious extremist groups. Part I is out:

Hate In God’s Name: Part I
splcenter.org

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:49:12pm

It actually may be worse than you suspect.
After watching please resist the urge to bang your forehead against a solid object
It will likely not rattle the video induced stupidity free and may damage your furniture/load bearing structures.

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2017 • 7:56:25pm

Spicer’s treatment tonight proves one thing: No matter how despicable a human being you prove yourself to be, you’ll be forgiven if you’re a conservative. If they tried to bring Hillary on tonight, they’d have been burned in effigy for giving her the time of day.

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2017 • 8:07:45pm

We live in a country where men who worked for Nixon are today treated as honored members of politics, but those who worked for Clinton are treated as unindicted co-conspirator.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2017 • 8:11:41pm

re: #43 Targetpractice

We live in a country where men who worked for Nixon are today treated as honored members of politics, but those who worked for Clinton are treated as unindicted co-conspirator.

The media was complicit in Trump’s election. There is nothing to indicate that they have learned anything from this experience. Trump entertainment is good for their business and that’s all they care about. Spicer became famous because of SNL and SNL appreciates how the Trump administration is helping them regain relevance.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 8:20:59pm

Chuck Grassley weighing in on important things. Good thing we pay senators so much money.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 17, 2017 • 8:21:10pm

I’m not completely clear on this, having just woken up from a nap, but what’s the latest reason Trump won? Something about us being upset at his retweeting antisemite’s videos of him assaulting his election opponent 10 months after the election?

It seems to me that they always boil down to “You thinking we’re stupid is why Trump won!”

The reality is that them BEING stupid is why Trump won.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 8:27:52pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 17, 2017 • 8:29:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 8:35:37pm

re: #48 GlutenFreeJesus

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We might want people deciding elections, but that map is how they are decided. I did make the argument here at LGF several months ago that “square miles matter” but it didn’t go over so well.

Considering the number of special elections in safe state seats that are flipping from GOP to Dems, perhaps some of the folk out here in the great empty part of the country are taking notice.

We have heavy thunderstorms in the area with frequent lightning (cue loss of Internet service), so I need to get away from the window where my computer is. G’night y’all.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 17, 2017 • 8:40:14pm

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹

I remember that. Of course, rural votes matter. But… 100 people in a rural town = 100 people in an urban city.

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2017 • 8:41:39pm

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹

We might want people deciding elections, but that map is how they are decided. I did make the argument here at LGF several months ago that “square miles matter” but it didn’t go over so well.

Considering the number of special elections in safe state seats that are flipping from GOP to Dems, perhaps some of the folk out here in the great empty part of the country are taking notice.

We have heavy thunderstorms in the area with frequent lightning (cue loss of Internet service), so I need to get away from the window where my computer is. G’night y’all.

Early in Hillary’s book, she tells the story of a woman forcing her granddaughter to apologize for not voting for Hillary. As Hillary states, it’s not her job to make them feel better. Maybe a lot of people are finally going “I should have fucking voted.”

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Interesting Times  Sep 17, 2017 • 8:42:41pm

Well played:

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JordanRules  Sep 17, 2017 • 8:43:52pm

re: #50 GlutenFreeJesus

We’re a pretty reality based community here. I’d be surprised to see someone make the argument denying this electoral actuality rather than arguing your point. Was that the case?

It is what it is, but not as it should be.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 17, 2017 • 8:48:32pm

re: #53 JordanRules

Not at all denying the reality of the EC. Just wanted to address the point of that tweet from “Christian” above. People vote. Not land mass.

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JordanRules  Sep 17, 2017 • 8:51:18pm

re: #54 GlutenFreeJesus

Not suggesting you were, just looking for some background on the argument here that AM referenced. My bad if I misread your reply.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:00:35pm

re: #20 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

There are places in the US where one cannot get competent broadband. Ask my folks, who are literally just a couple of blocks away from a fiber network, but because of the county boundary, they are denied access to truly modern Internet. Instead, they’re stuck on a DSL line that is effectively the 56k dial-up of the current decade.

Hey, that’s what mine is! Windstream calls it “DSL-lite”.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:04:43pm

re: #55 JordanRules

Oh I know you weren’t. I may have misread you. S’all good!

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JordanRules  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:09:01pm

re: #57 GlutenFreeJesus

Oh good! Cheers GFJ!

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JordanRules  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:14:07pm

#spicer
I’ve used this point a lot in trying to explain some of the ways unconscious bias, institutional and systemic racism work.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:15:45pm

re: #54 GlutenFreeJesus

Not at all denying the reality of the EC. Just wanted to address the point of that tweet from “Christian” above. People vote. Not land mass.

It is unfortunate that too many people focus on land mass rather number of votes to frame how they see the country. But it is not truly land mass that makes the determination but rather how Electoral Votes are apportioned by state, which assigns too heavy a weight to less populated states. And that is a problem even without the restrictions on voting access and voting rights in states run by Republicans.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:18:30pm

re: #46 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m not completely clear on this, having just woken up from a nap, but what’s the latest reason Trump won? Something about us being upset at his retweeting antisemite’s videos of him assaulting his election opponent 10 months after the election?

It seems to me that they always boil down to “You thinking we’re stupid is why Trump won!”

The reality is that them BEING stupid is why Trump won.

And them being racist.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:23:47pm

I sometimes wonder if top anti-vaxxers are something like “suicide predators,” in it for the “thrill of the chase.” Do they draw little kill-marks on their computers every some dupe’s child dies of a preventable disease?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:24:19pm

Really fast credits to Ken Burns’s Vietnam

Trent Reznor is involved.

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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:28:16pm
Tension between the two comes as life in the White House is shadowed by the investigation. Not only do Mr. Trump, Mr. Kushner and Mr. McGahn all have lawyers, but so do other senior officials. The uncertainty has grown to the point that White House officials privately express fear that colleagues may be wearing a wire to surreptitiously record conversations for Mr. Mueller.

Trump Lawyers Clash Over How Much to Cooperate With Russia Inquiry | The New York Times

h/t @joshtpm

Bob Mueller, please hurry!

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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:31:17pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:34:24pm

Juanita Jean reports on a bunch of anti-government gun-nut extremists taking over a town in Fort Bend County, Texas. It is comprised primarily of Cambodian refugees and descendants of the Vietnam War …

The gun nuts saw an opportunity to pass themselves off as “good guys” (like Hezbollah) by allegedly providing hurricane relief aid to the community.

They then ran off FEMA workers and are claiming the residents are saying they don’t need Federal government workers or aid in the town. The sheriff is trying to figure out what to do with these assholes (shades of Meal Team Six in Oregon, outnumbering and outgunning the local authorities).

Shape Shifting Extremists

Here’s where things get weird - in Fort Bend County is a small agricultural community outside of Rosharon called Little Cambodia. It’s populated by Cambodian refuges, has its own Buddhist temple and has been pretty self sufficient. The area suffered serious flooding, and being outside of larger communities, was left on its own as the effort to respond to the disaster was organized. American Freedom Keepers, a lose affiliation of gun-toting anti-government screwballs based in Portland, Oregon, saw an opportunity, joined forces with a motorcycle club called Confederate Riders of America and swept in proclaiming that they are in charge of recovery. FEMA representatives were threatened by this crowd when they arrived trying to assess the situation and promptly left, feeling the area unsafe for their workers. AFK has now essentially taken over the community. The Confederate Riders say the community “is not ready for federal help”, whatever that means. The Fort Bend County sheriff is apparently trying to get handle on the situation.

(more at the link)

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Kragar  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:34:57pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:35:10pm

re: #63 Stanley Sea

Just the opening minutes, the familiar clips played backwards… … was just astonishing by way of impact.

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freetoken  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:42:38pm

Looks like hurricanes Jose and Maria are giving the various models by which forecasters like to employ in making future tracks a bit of trouble.

Either both hurricanes stay out to sea, or they do weird things interacting with each other.

So the coming week ought to be another week in which the weatherfolk dominate TV viewing.

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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:47:51pm

“Skiing here is just like skiing in a big refrigerator,” ten-year-old Kane Li grinned beneath his neon goggles, who has his hopes pinned on competing at the [2022 Winter Olympic] games [in Beijing].

[…]

The country is currently home to roughly six million skiers, but President Xi Jinping hopes that number will rise to 300 million in the coming years.

[…]

There are currently about 200 ski resorts in China. Chinese officials are aiming to increase that number fivefold by 2030.

There are 463 ski resorts in the United States.

Oh, I found this interesting.

For average visitors, the cost to ski for an entire day, including all rental equipment, is 488 yuan ($74). The most popular package is a three-hour visit at 300 yuan ($45).

That’s about what you’d pay at a small mom & pop ski area in most of the Rockies for a lift ticket, not including equipment.

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freetoken  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:49:59pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

I’m guessing the north side of the HImalayas may provide the most dramatic skiing on the planet?

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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:50:54pm

re: #71 freetoken

I’m guessing the north side of the HImalayas may provide the most dramatic skiing on the planet?

Fuckin’ aye. It’s a last frontier for the ski world.

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freetoken  Sep 17, 2017 • 9:55:37pm

Watched the first two episodes of The Orville.

Kind of a let down, frankly.

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JordanRules  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:01:36pm

Daww! Love The Stranger Things kids’ little suits.

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scottslemmons  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:04:36pm

re: #74 JordanRules

Daww! Love The Stranger Things kids’ little suits.

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Man, I hope those kids don’t end up going the child-actor-disaster route. They all seem so cool and appealing — I’d love them to escape the curse…

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freetoken  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:15:19pm

Amazing amount of whining online about the new ST: Discovery.

Especially by keyboard-alpha-males.

Case in point, in the comments on this video:

The State of the Galaxy in Star Trek Discovery | Incoming

There is this recent comment:

MrGrownman455
3 hours ago
The Klingon make over was a deal breaker for me.
The show Star Trek Enterprise answered the Klingon questiion how the Klingons from TSO becamse the TNG Klingons. It was some experimental drug they took that caused the change. The Klingons were always meant to be a Science Fiction version of the Russians. The TNG Klingons were perfect and should not have been changed. I think it’s just more of the same old SJWs lets make everything political correct bs. because the Klingons were very aggressive Alpha males with very sexual and violent females. I know to the SJWs that makes them uncomfortable. Oh well. I have a feeling STD will be ok for some people but to the original Star Terk fans won’t be interested in it.

Just imagine, being uncomfortable with violence towards women.

The gall of “SJWs”.

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Kragar  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:19:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:29:58pm

I looked up where that Cambodian refugee community in Texas is that’s overrun by gun nuts.

Just down the road a few minutes from my brother-in-law. I fired him a warning in E-mail to pay attention.

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Kragar  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:33:41pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:34:10pm

re: #76 freetoken

Amazing amount of whining online about the new ST: Discovery.

Especially by keyboard-alpha-males.

Case in point, in the comments on this video:

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There is this recent comment:

Just imagine, being uncomfortable with violence towards women.

The gall of “SJWs”.

See, this is the sort of shit that made it impossible for criticism to be lodged against the new Ghostbusters without getting lumped in with the MRA crowd. ST:D is looking like an absolute trainwreck and it has nothing to do with “SJWs,” but instead with the classic executive meddling that has defined Star Trek since the 90s. CBS and Paramount carved up the baby King Solomon-style and it’s led to a situation where neither can really give us an authentic Trek series without the other suing their ass into the ground for copyright infringement.

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JordanRules  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:35:59pm
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Kragar  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:37:00pm

I’m just going to come out and say it.

The Star Trek universe is lame. The “Prime Directive” is utter and complete horseshit.

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JordanRules  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:37:39pm

re: #79 Kragar

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:37:55pm

re: #67 Kragar

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Bernie did jackshit to get her elected. He held out until just before the convention in the hopes that he could work the refs to give him the nomination, then gave her a lackluster “endorsement” on Day One that seemed more about him and his “revolution” than the candidate of the party he supposedly had joined, and then he did nothing to get his supporters onboard with her. A couple speeches was not enough to undo the damage that his cancerous support base was inflicting IRL and on the net.

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Kragar  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:44:17pm

re: #82 Kragar

Related:

“We arrived at a previously unexplored planet. The initial exploration team will consist of the CO, XO, Chief Medical Officer, Chief Engineer, and one other security guy.”

Who the hell does that?

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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:44:35pm

The lighter side of things…

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:45:13pm

re: #82 Kragar

I’m just going to come out and say it.

The Star Trek universe is lame. The “Prime Directive” is utter and complete horseshit.

The Prime Directive was one of those writer tools that made sense when originally created, but became a crutch upon which writers leaned when they had to create false tension. “It’s a planet with millions of people, but they don’t have warp drive, so we can do nothing but sit and watch them die.” Whenever an episode invoked the PD, it inevitably became a question of just how they’d find a way to paper over their violation of it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:46:50pm

re: #85 Kragar

Related:

“We arrived at a previously unexplored planet. The initial exploration team will consist of the CO, XO, Chief Medical Officer, Chief Engineer, and one other security guy.”

Who the hell does that?

Leslie Fish’s “Banned from Argo”

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:47:14pm

re: #85 Kragar

Related:

“We arrived at a previously unexplored planet. The initial exploration team will consist of the CO, XO, Chief Medical Officer, Chief Engineer, and one other security guy.”

Who the hell does that?

Writers who are dealing with an egomaniac of a leading man who insists that the captain be the guy who does basically everything.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:50:38pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

The Prime Directive was one of those writer tools that made sense when originally created, but became a crutch upon which writers leaned when they had to create false tension. “It’s a planet with millions of people, but they don’t have warp drive, so we can do nothing but sit and watch them die.” Whenever an episode invoked the PD, it inevitably became a question of just how they’d find a way to paper over their violation of it.

Same goes for the transporter. In theory, every time there was a real problem for the away team, all they should have had to do was “beam them up.”

In practice of the show, the transporter seemed to break down every other episode, based on the ground situation.

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:51:52pm

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹

Same goes for the transporter. In theory, every time there was a real problem for the away team, all they should have had to do was “beam them up.”

In practice of the show, the transporter seemed to break down every other episode, based on the ground situation.

Let’s not forget the holodeck, which was guaranteed to break in some way that either meant it couldn’t be shut down, the people inside couldn’t escape, or that the “safety protocols” would go offline to put the occupants in mortal danger.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:52:55pm

Just don’t ever be the guy with the red shirt.

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Kragar  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:53:17pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

Makes Imperium Tech seem downright trustworthy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:54:46pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

Let’s not forget the holodeck, which was guaranteed to break in some way that either meant it couldn’t be shut down, the people inside couldn’t escape, or that the “safety protocols” would go offline to put the occupants in mortal danger.

All iterations of the Enterprise seemed to be an amusement park ride from Hell.

LOL, my wife just sent a message to me from across the room (a thousand-mile E-mail trip when she is right behind me at her computer):

s+LtU0eX/pkeBsdiyf30kwHMiw6eT6JwUSmx+CC0Wti3F825xZsaOxno6ylAJ0GNiNFQLCIalEQLwxZ8TFcIjkzxFGyYDroFIDO9DtuxEihpwSnPbFreKE18nYFgGeJKlcfMxtzLsBGvh25Mey7gdgsryvdKN1lhIRnKFbg14VOOG+h5Os64FOWvWVvdbYZ4L2/TXe7oRkEiBGyDSmlt2s9kdOxz/8o1Uzsmq1SUvsaahi+je40USpvCbZzH0LhazoI/X/j3MoZrOJdGOcl0t97uOI0Ocb3M7Q+988AJKtooIYE3iNm7F3A8D2d3gJpG

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:55:01pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

At least Captain Sisko would bend that directive from time to time.

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Kragar  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:56:00pm

re: #92 alloutofcrazyhere

Just make sure you’re wearing the right red shirt

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:56:45pm

re: #93 Kragar

Makes Imperium Tech seem downright trustworthy.

Let’s also not forget that Starfleet was the organization which invented a weapon that could fire a metallic slug that could not be effected by fields/interference that would disable energy weapons, could be modified with a microtransporter so that it could be fired through walls, and could bypass the known ability of their greatest enemy up to that point (the Borg) to adapt to energy weapons…and then promptly shelved it to develop “regenerative phasers.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 10:57:08pm

re: #92 alloutofcrazyhere

Just don’t ever be the guy with the red shirt.

Unless you were Montgomery Scott. One wonders how he survived the Star Trek universe’s propensity to kill red-shirted officers long enough to become chief engineer.

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Kragar  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:00:44pm

re: #97 Targetpractice

Chainsword beats phaser

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:01:48pm

Clearly you’re all overlooking the most egregious Star Trek Universe problem - that almost every race they encounter seems to have the same two genders, and compatible genitals in the same place as ours.

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:02:58pm

re: #99 Kragar

Chainsword beats phaser

An Imperial Stormtrooper with Parkinson’s could beat a phaser. He doesn’t even have to try to aim, he just fires in the general direction of a Starfleet security officer and the guy will drop dead from fright.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:04:14pm

re: #100 Blind Frog Belly White

Clearly you’re all overlooking the most egregious Star Trek Universe problem - that almost every race they encounter seems to have the same two genders, and compatible genitals in the same place as ours.

Well, that could also be a motivation to explore the galaxy I guess: Sex tourism.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:04:56pm

re: #100 Blind Frog Belly White

Except the goon Kirk kicked in what he thought were his knees in the movie The Undiscovered Country.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:05:00pm

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹

Well, that could also be a motivation to explore the galaxy I guess: Sex tourism.

Kirk’s secret motivation for the 5-year mission….

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freetoken  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:07:44pm

re: #100 Blind Frog Belly White

There have been two attempts by ST series to explain this:

Preceding the Federation by hundreds of thousands of years there was a large empire that spread over much of the galaxy in which the Federation now occupies.

Secondly, long ago in the early period of the galaxy an extra-galactic civilization seeded our galaxy with amino acids that would form the basis of the evolution of life into similar forms.

A third explanation is the god-in-the-box solution, which was never formally presented but lays there like an open sore: The Q.

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freetoken  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:11:05pm

re: #80 Targetpractice

CBS and Paramount carved up the baby King Solomon-style and it’s led to a situation where neither can really give us an authentic Trek series without the other suing their ass into the ground for copyright infringement.

That’s exactly the problem. This came about because instead of artistic interests the only decision was how to maximize immediate quarter profits for each corporation.

But in the long run it is killing the franchise.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:13:24pm

re: #105 freetoken

There have been two attempts by ST series to explain this:

Preceding the Federation by hundreds of thousands of years there was a large empire that spread over much of the galaxy in which the Federation now occupies.

Secondly, long ago in the early period of the galaxy an extra-galactic civilization seeded our galaxy with amino acids that would form the basis of the evolution of life into similar forms.

A third explanation is the god-in-the-box solution, which was never formally presented but lays there like an open sore: The Q.

All because they can’t just say, “Look, the only actors we have available are human, plus we sold this as an Action/Adventure series because the networks were iffy on Science Fiction, and that means a manly man Captain.”

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Kragar  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:13:32pm

re: #106 freetoken

That’s exactly the problem. This came about because instead of artistic interests the only decision was how to maximize immediate quarter profits for each corporation.

But in the long run it is killing the franchise.

The spinoff I want to see:

The adventures of Harcourt Fenton Mudd

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:14:35pm

re: #108 Kragar

The spinoff I want to see:

The adventures of Harcourt Fenton Mudd

You mean 500 Stellas can’t keep him in line?

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:15:33pm

I want a new/somewhat altered version of Quantum Leap.

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Kragar  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:15:46pm

re: #109 Blind Frog Belly White

You mean 500 Stellas can’t keep him in line?

New timeline

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:16:08pm

re: #106 freetoken

That’s exactly the problem. This came about because instead of artistic interests the only decision was how to maximize immediate quarter profits for each corporation.

But in the long run it is killing the franchise.

The big problem is that both sides got the distribution rights to part of the franchise, but the parts they didn’t are owned by the other guy, and both are lawsuit-crazy. CBS can release the TV series but can’t use certain elements to make new ones, while Paramount can release the movies but can’t use any existing material to make new ones. Viacom’s figured out this isn’t working, but nobody really wants to merge back together.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:17:51pm

re: #111 Kragar

New timeline

New timelines are just a cheap trick to work outside the Canon.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:18:44pm

re: #110 alloutofcrazyhere

I want a new/somewhat altered version of Quantum Leap.

Well, you know, Sam never did go home….

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Kragar  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:19:07pm

re: #113 Blind Frog Belly White

New timelines are just a cheap trick to work outside the Canon.

What if we reroute the timeline thru the deflector array?

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JordanRules  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:19:55pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:20:07pm

re: #115 Kragar

What if we reroute the timeline thru the deflector array?

But we need to remember to cross-circuit to B.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:20:07pm

re: #114 Blind Frog Belly White

Somehow he ended up on the bridge of the Enterprise….

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:20:41pm

There was once a proposal to make a new Quantum Leap TV movie as a backdoor pilot for a new series back in the early-2000s. But like a lot of such ideas, it fell through because “reality TV” was the buzzword for all the major networks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:21:49pm

re: #118 alloutofcrazyhere

Somehow he ended up on the bridge of the Enterprise….

Must have a descendant. (shared DNA, the way they got around the ‘during Sam’s lifetime’ limitation to do a Civil War episode)

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freetoken  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:22:37pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:26:15pm

re: #110 alloutofcrazyhere

I want a new/somewhat altered version of Quantum Leap.

That would be most kewl.

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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:34:36pm
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freetoken  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:37:45pm

Not sure what the real market is for more SciFi shows on the small screen.

Most that exist are just juvenile coming-of-age-angst shows (e.g., Dark Matter). Certainly that is true of the many vampire/zombie shows (e.g., Midnight, Texas.)

Attempts like The Orville strike me as kind of lost between comedy and drama. It has good ratings for the premier, but I wonder how quickly the ratings will tank.

The new Star Trek was created to drive people to the new CBS on-demand subscription service, but I feel that market is now so overloaded with options that I fear CBS will learn a very hard lesson.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:37:56pm

re: #123 teleskiguy

Make it so….

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sagehen  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:44:21pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

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There are 463 ski resorts in the United States.

Oh, I found this interesting.

That’s about what you’d pay at a small mom & pop ski area in most of the Rockies for a lift ticket, not including equipment.

The places my family used to go, that would pay for parking and lunch.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:46:05pm

Now you’ve done it: My wife queued up “Star Trek V” … gotta go …

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sagehen  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:46:57pm

re: #82 Kragar

I’m just going to come out and say it.

The Star Trek universe is lame. The “Prime Directive” is utter and complete horseshit.

Except when it delivers an awesome episode like “A Piece of the Action”.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:47:42pm

re: #128 sagehen

Sounds like a porno starring Captain Kirk.

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JordanRules  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:54:43pm
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sagehen  Sep 17, 2017 • 11:59:54pm

re: #129 alloutofcrazyhere

Sounds like a porno starring Captain Kirk.

Kirk plays Fizbin.

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freetoken  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:02:51am

re: #130 JordanRules

Good grief.

What happened?

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JordanRules  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:04:45am

re: #132 freetoken

Had a knife and was shot dead in the heart.

I don’t really understand how we do law enforcement in this country. :(

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freetoken  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:05:23am

So I read the short report.

How does wielding a reportedly-small knife require being shot in the heart?

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:11:13am

Georgia Tech cops must not have beanbag rounds.

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Cheechako  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:16:52am

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Georgia Tech cops must not have beanbag rounds.

or tasers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:18:21am

re: #136 Cheechako

or tasers.

Or any training in keeping distance.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:19:26am

re: #137 Blind Frog Belly White

Or any training in keeping distance.

Or, you know, fucking batons.

But, you know, I’m sure they’ll say they feared for their lives.

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teleskiguy  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:33:57am

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Georgia Tech cops must not have beanbag rounds.

Why do campus security officers have weapons to begin with?

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JordanRules  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:36:21am

The PR assault of the STL PD has been insane. I’m flabbergasted at what they’re posting. Last night they posted a photo of an officer with what was obviously red dye on his uni as if it was blood.

This has been posted already and I hope will be posted again. It’s chilling.

They are operating so recklessly and without regard to the responsibility they hold.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:38:29am

re: #140 JordanRules

I trust lawyers far more than the police.

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Kragar  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:42:11am

re: #140 JordanRules

Apple cider written on the bottle could be a clue

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JordanRules  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:48:59am

re: #141 alloutofcrazyhere

Lawyers have resistance super powers at this point. How long that will last with this regime is a good question. If they get neutered, authoritarian impulses will become more codified.

re: #142 Kragar

I don’t know Kragar, I mean, look at him all vulnerable in his battle uni. ///
Go home and make a great vinaigrette with that confiscated ACV assholes!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:52:05am

re: #139 teleskiguy

Why do campus security officers have weapons to begin with?

The female security guard who was attacked by a Liberty honor student might well have been killed if she hadn’t been armed. The student hit her twice with a hammer, doing enough damage to put her in the hospital. She shot him before he got in another blow. This was a big story in Lubbock because the student was from there and had been salutatorian of a Baptist high school. This school is associated with a church that gave away guns as door prizes at a “Harvest Festival” event.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:59:26am

Lubbock police use bean bag rounds to subdue a bat-wielding suspect outside a local Walmart.

Non-Lethal Bean Bag Rounds Subdue Suspect


OUCH! But he’s notably still alive.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 18, 2017 • 1:11:25am

“Taser Deployed” happens about 200 times more often than “Start Protocol” (Officer involved shooting) around here. Beanbag gun is one of the rarest calls out here. Personally I’d use the taser shotgun. ;)

Shotgun TASER

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Kragar  Sep 18, 2017 • 1:23:58am

Comedy ensues

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JordanRules  Sep 18, 2017 • 1:33:41am

re: #147 Kragar

Good Lord!!! The replies did not disappoint.

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teleskiguy  Sep 18, 2017 • 1:37:22am
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Timothy Watson  Sep 18, 2017 • 2:03:14am

If you needed a good early morning laugh:
How Trump could save Palestinian statehood

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teleskiguy  Sep 18, 2017 • 2:26:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2017 • 2:45:10am

re: #100 Blind Frog Belly White

Clearly you’re all overlooking the most egregious Star Trek Universe problem - that almost every race they encounter seems to have the same two genders, and compatible genitals in the same place as ours.

and that every planet they visit has a breathable atmosphere and is free of toxins, germs or viruses that could kill humans within minutes…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2017 • 3:55:20am

toxic atmosphere here has obviously killed the thread

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(Bert the Turtle)  Sep 18, 2017 • 4:04:06am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

toxic atmosphere here has obviously killed the thread

Krager pulled the grandaddy of Vulcan mind melds.

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(Bert the Turtle)  Sep 18, 2017 • 4:09:05am

…there’s a whole ‘nother thread in my head. It’s really kind of nice - the images load faster, I don’t have to worry about grammar, and you don’t need a Twitter account.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 18, 2017 • 4:32:45am

I didn’t know box cake mix was waning in popularity, it doesn’t last two days in my house. But in Alaska, there is nothing more popular than box mix cake, with some substitutions, of course.

Elsewhere, the American appetite for packaged baking mixes is waning, according to the market research firm Mintel, as consumers move away from packaged foods with artificial ingredients and buy more from in-store bakeries and specialty pastry shops. Yet in the small, mostly indigenous communities that dot rural Alaska, box cake is a stalwart staple, the star of every community dessert table and a potent fund-raising tool.

“Cake mixes are the center of our little universe,” said Cynthia Erickson, who owns the only grocery store in Tanana, an Athabascan village of 300 along the Yukon River in central Alaska. “I have four damn shelves full.”

I have an Aunt that makes the best mayonnaise chocolate cake, you would never know the mayo was in there.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 5:00:57am

re: #50 GlutenFreeJesus

I remember that. Of course, rural votes matter. But… 100 people in a rural town = 100 people in an urban city.

Exactly and the suggestion is somehow the urban votes mean less since they’re in a more densely populated area. Of course, rural votes and voters matter, the point is so do urban ones and by dismissing CA and NY as Democratic anyhow, we’re ignoring that those citizens are well citizens.

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jeffreyw  Sep 18, 2017 • 5:15:02am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2017 • 5:49:53am

re: #100 Blind Frog Belly White

Clearly you’re all overlooking the most egregious Star Trek Universe problem - that almost every race they encounter seems to have the same two genders, and compatible genitals in the same place as ours.

They explained that in ST:TNG.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2017 • 5:59:31am

re: #48 GlutenFreeJesus

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Birth Control Works  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:14:58am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:15:26am

re: #160 lawhawk

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Clinton’s coalition also resembles the country more as a whole too. I’m a resident of the burbs practically exburbs in fact but damnit I’m sick of people whining about urban centers and implying their votes mean less since they live in a more densely and more heavily populated area.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:16:07am

It ain’t just electorally either LH. It’s in Congress as well.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:17:47am

It is… awake:

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Birth Control Works  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:19:43am

re: #123 teleskiguy

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and, where is this?

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:21:18am

There was a nasty bus crash this morning, and the details are still kinda hazy. Two buses collided in Queens - a NYC MTA bus and a private bus operator. Dozens were sent to the hospital, and 3 were killed. The private bus appears to have run a red light. The private bus ended up in a storefront as well. Major EMS presence:

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:26:21am

re: #166 lawhawk

nypost.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:27:18am

re: #160 lawhawk

The problem for the Presidency (not the other offices) is the winner take all nature of the Electoral College. Let us suppose a country has 3 states each with 30 million people and each state gets 1 vote. In State A 30 million all go to Candidate A, state B 30 million are split 14 million Candidate A, 16 million Candidate B, state C also has 14 million Candidate A and 16 million Candidate B. So Candidate A wins 58 million votes or 64+ percentage of the vote but loses. The only real way to represent the voters is to do away with the Electoral College and have a proportional vote.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:29:44am

re: #160 lawhawk

Did I wake up grumpy?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:30:45am

re: #169 Unshaken Defiance

Did I wake up grumpy?

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No, you woke up tired of people shitting on you because you have the audacity to live in a large state.

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Weaselone  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:36:42am

re: #160 lawhawk

Do it by GDP. Then the heads really explode.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:44:11am

re: #172 Weaselone

Do it by GDP. Then the heads really explode.

Specially because it goes directly against their beliefs that they’re “productive” and liberals and democratic voters are “moochers.”

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Birth Control Works  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:44:25am

A deadly herpes virus is threatening oysters around the world

Today a deadly herpes virus, Ostreid herpesvirus 1 (OsHV-1), is threatening Pacific oysters (Crassostrea gigas), the world’s most popular and valuable oyster species. It is almost certain to spread more widely in our globally connected world.

I know what you’re thinking: “Oysters get herpes??” Yes, and they can also can get sick from other types of pathogens and stresses. But you won’t contract this virus from eating an oyster, whether you enjoy them on the half-shell or cooked. OsHV-1 can infect other bivalve species, like some animal herpes viruses that can cross species barriers, but it is genetically distinct from other animal herpes viruses and does not infect humans.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:47:06am

re: #82 Kragar

I’m just going to come out and say it.

The Star Trek universe is lame. The “Prime Directive” is utter and complete horseshit.

The Prime Directive is why Cassini was crashed into Saturn.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:47:25am

We are so fucked

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:50:30am

re: #176 Birth Control Works

We are so fucked

McConnell’s been trying to argue that Democrats shouldn’t be using that power that Republicans abused during Obama’s presidency.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:52:08am

Despite Epidemic, Insurers Restrict Non-Opioid Drugs

It all comes back to money. America’s opioid crisis, which has seen deaths from prescription drug overdoses quadruple since 2015, may be exacerbated by health plans that don’t cover alternatives that are less addictive but cost insurers more money. Almost every Medicare plan analyzed covered cheap, addictive opioids, which have become the leading cause of accidental death in the U.S., while far fewer covered alternatives or addiction treatment. Pharmaceutical companies pushing OxyContin and opioids have been fined hundreds of millions — but this new data raises questions about where responsibility lies.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:52:09am

re: #172 Weaselone

Do it by GDP. Then the heads really explode.

“The business of America is business, so the more productive areas should have more of a vote.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:52:42am

re: #177 Belafon

McConnell’s been trying to argue that Democrats shouldn’t be using that power that Republicans abused during Obama’s presidency.

McConnell may be worse than Trump in many ways.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:53:04am
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Belafon  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:53:44am

re: #180 HappyWarrior

McConnell may be worse than Trump in many ways.

In more ways than one, Trump is the logical consequence of McConnell’s actions over the past 20+ years.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:54:07am

re: #181 Birth Control Works

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Damn. My dad’s been a subscriber for as long as I can remember.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:54:22am

re: #182 Belafon

In more ways than one, Trump is the logical consequence of McConnell’s actions over the past 20+ years.

Indeed, well said.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:55:40am

Florida allows any resident to challenge textbooks — and it has some science supporters concerned

HB 989 allows any Florida resident to “challenge the use or adoption of instructional materials,” and its supporters say the law gives Floridians a greater say in what students are taught. But some in the scientific community worry the new law will be used to target evolution and climate change in classrooms.

“My group, Florida Citizens for Science, has been tracking this for quite some time now,” says Brandon Haught, a co-founder of the organization and a high school environmental science teacher.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:56:09am

re: #181 Birth Control Works

I wonder if that is the un-intended consequence in how we consume music now.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 18, 2017 • 6:56:51am

Why I Gave $1 Billion to Support the UN
By Ted Turner, United Nations Foundation Founder and Chairman

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:02:39am
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Birth Control Works  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:04:24am

re: #186 Shropshire Slasher

I wonder if that is the un-intended consequence in how we consume music now.

I think it is a consequence of time.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:04:56am

re: #179 Belafon

“The business of America is business, so the more productive areas should have more of a vote.”

The pathetic thing is they really do think they’re the only productive ones in society and the left are just welfare moochers especially minorities.

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ObserverArt  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:11:39am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Not going to bother arguing with people who think it’s great that the Emmys put Sean Spicer on. Just no point. If they haven’t seen what’s going on by now, I’m not going to convince them.

Morning!

So, that Spicer thing is all over TV this morning. I didn’t even think it was that funny. The whole thing seemed forced.

Like Charles is saying, the whole thing is a sad situation.

It sure devalues Spicer and shows he knows he was slinging Trump shit. I guess I don’t see that as funny. I sure hope he realizes he will never be taken seriously again.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:14:39am

re: #192 ObserverArt

Morning!

So, that Spicer thing is all over TV this morning. I didn’t even think it was that funny. The whole thing seemed forced.

Like Charles is saying, the whole thing is a sad situation.

It sure devalues Spicer and shows he knows he was slinging Trump shit. I guess I don’t see that as funny. I sure hope he realizes he will never be taken seriously again.

I expect we’ll see Spicer on Dancing with the Stars in no time.

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JordanRules  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:14:46am

re: #192 ObserverArt

Except by Harvard?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:15:12am

I don’t want Spicer to be ruined forever because of this but at the same time, I don’t like the idea of giving him celebrity either.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:15:56am

re: #195 HappyWarrior

I don’t want Spicer to be ruined forever because of this but at the same time, I don’t like the idea of giving him celebrity either.

He was ruined long before. He was hired by Trump precisely because of the ease with which he lies. That’s all he does. It’s all he’ll do.

That’s his jam.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:21:49am

re: #196 lawhawk

He was ruined long before. He was hired by Trump precisely because of the ease with which he lies. That’s all he does. It’s all he’ll do.

That’s his jam.

Yep, he was a professional bullshit artist for the RNC and then he got a job doing it for Trump.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:22:08am

re: #192 ObserverArt

Morning!

So, that Spicer thing is all over TV this morning. I didn’t even think it was that funny. The whole thing seemed forced.

Like Charles is saying, the whole thing is a sad situation.

It sure devalues Spicer and shows he knows he was slinging Trump shit. I guess I don’t see that as funny. I sure hope he realizes he will never be taken seriously again.

I figured the entire point of Spicer was so that Colbert could say “Here’s Melissa McCarthy.” I couldn’t really see any other point in it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:22:42am

Spicer makes a mockery out of being press secretary. Gets invited to the Emmys. Hillary beats Sanders and Trump in the popular vote and should “shut up.”

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:22:50am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:23:41am

re: #200 lawhawk

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That sound was Teddy Roosevelt rolling in his grave.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:28:10am
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Birth Control Works  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:28:13am

ON THIS DAY

On Sept. 18, 1947, the National Security Act, which unified the Army, Navy and newly formed Air Force, went into effect.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:28:47am

Here is your Nazi Punching Video of the day
We shouldn’t punch innocent Nazis. It’s so mean. We should engage in mutually respectful dialogue.
NAZI: I think minorities and untermenschen should be humanely removed from civilization.
MINORITY: Fuck you.

Nazi gets knocked out in Seattle

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:28:56am

re: #202 lawhawk

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Yep.

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ObserverArt  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:29:00am

re: #194 JordanRules

Except by Harvard?

Well, truth be told, I am having a hard time taking anything serious these days.

I don’t know if it is an age thing, but damn so much seems to be cheap. So many institutions seem to be less than what they were.

I guess it is all the Trump coloring.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:29:28am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

Here is your Nazi Punching Video of the day
We shouldn’t punch innocent Nazis. It’s so mean. We should engage in mutually respectful dialogue.
NAZI: I think minorities and untermenschen should be humanely removed from civilization.
MINORITY: Fuck you.

[Embedded content]

Video

Nice punch.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:29:42am

Morning y’all.

And fuck the St. Lou police.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:30:04am

re: #206 ObserverArt

Well, truth be told, I am having a hard time taking anything serious these days.

I don’t know if it is an age thing, but damn so much seems to be cheap. So many institutions seem to be less than what they were.

I guess it is all the Trump coloring.

Yeah, I’ve pretty much lost my faith in everything.

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JordanRules  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:33:42am

re: #206 ObserverArt

I’m definitely dealing with some of that too. Some of it is bound to be our perspective but I think a lot of institutes have indeed been cheapened in many ways.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:33:56am

gaaaahhhhhhhh

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:34:45am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaahhhhhhhh

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OFFS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:35:39am

I think I’ll just go back to sleep…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:36:51am

it’s always got to be about HIM…

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:37:53am

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

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it’s always got to be about HIM…

He saw Russian money for his laundry mat is what he saw.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:37:59am

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

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it’s always got to be about HIM…

But somehow Obama was arrogant and narcissistic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:39:59am

LOLOLOLOL…I’m sure…

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:40:53am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

I learned it from watching you, dad. (One of my favorite anti-drug ad quotes)

Donald Trump Says He’d Like to Punch a Protester in the Face

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Le Coquí Résistance  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:40:59am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL…I’m sure…

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That means he’s been talking incessantly about it.

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sagehen  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:41:24am

re: #168 Hecuba’s daughter

The problem for the Presidency (not the other offices) is the winner take all nature of the Electoral College. Let us suppose a country has 3 states each with 30 million people and each state gets 1 vote. In State A 30 million all go to Candidate A, state B 30 million are split 14 million Candidate A, 16 million Candidate B, state C also has 14 million Candidate A and 16 million Candidate B. So Candidate A wins 58 million votes or 64+ percentage of the vote but loses. The only real way to represent the voters is to do away with the Electoral College and have a proportional vote.

Instead of eliminating the EC entirely, I’d prefer we just expand Congress. (which has been statutorily frozen at the same size it was in 1928, when the nation’s population was about 1/3 what it is now). Smaller districts would mean the EC would give smaller/sparser states a slightly disproportionate weight, instead of a massively disproportionate weight.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:41:58am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL…I’m sure…

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Hahaha whatever you say Kellyanne.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:42:35am

re: #220 sagehen

I like the idea posted up thread. Representation by GDP. ;)

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Le Coquí Résistance  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:44:21am

re: #222 GlutenFreeJesus

I like the idea posted up thread. Representation by GDP. ;)

Or representation by taxes paid. :P

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:47:29am
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jeffreyw  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:47:42am

“Washday” beans with a nice smoked hock and some andouille simmering for supper tonight.

Imgur

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:48:41am

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka

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Yeah I’m sure you’d have the same exact reaction if Obama RTed a gif of him hitting Romney or McCain with a golf ball.

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danarchy  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:48:58am

re: #139 teleskiguy

Why do campus security officers have weapons to begin with?

At my school the campus police were actual State police. Georgia Tech has a student population of almost 30000, they are bigger than a lot of towns, why would they not have an actual police force?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:49:02am

Oh, it’s Collins. Trump’s first Congressional endorsement and general toady.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:49:14am

bbl

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:49:50am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:50:43am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:50:45am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

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The Portrait of Douchebag Gray.

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JordanRules  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:50:51am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:52:52am

re: #233 JordanRules

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Well it makes sense that those would be targeted. They’ve been among the biggest thorns in Trump’s side and hoepfully they will continue to be.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:56:46am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

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It’s all show to him, not functionality or effectiveness.

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Interesting Times  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:57:04am

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Well it makes sense that those would be targeted. They’ve been among the biggest thorns in Trump’s side and hoepfully they will continue to be.

True enough, but the Dems damn well know every dirty trick the GOP’s going to play. Where’s their strategy to deal with it and fight back? How about some preemptive strikes for a change, e.g. their own ads calling out the superpac and microtargeted to the type of people who voted for Obama but then when for trump?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 7:58:50am

re: #236 Interesting Times

True enough, but the Dems damn well know every dirty trick the GOP’s going to play. Where’s their strategy to deal with it and fight back? How about some preemptive strikes for a change, e.g. their own ads calling out the superpac and microtargeted to the type of people who voted for Obama but then when for trump?

Oh good point.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:01:02am

Saw the trailer for the Thurgood Marshall bioepic. Looks good.

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Weaselone  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:04:18am

re: #236 Interesting Times

True enough, but the Dems damn well know every dirty trick the GOP’s going to play. Where’s their strategy to deal with it and fight back? How about some preemptive strikes for a change, e.g. their own ads calling out the superpac and microtargeted to the type of people who voted for Obama but then when for trump?

Sounds good. Only problem is there are no Democratic Mercers to fund this crap. It’s a heavy lift to get wealthy people who would be aligned with Democrats to fund things that essentially undermine democracy, but from the other direction.

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Birth Control Works  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:05:13am

bbl

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:05:56am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Saw the trailer for the Thurgood Marshall bioepic. Looks good.

I really like him with the Delaware Destroyers. Thought he used a Fender amp and not a Marshall…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:06:32am

Clearly, Milo is trolling. He’s published a list of speakers intended to inflame, but never even contacted some of them.

Charles Murray, of ‘Bell Curve’ infamy, said he’d never appear at any event with Milo, “Because he is a despicable asshole.”

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Interesting Times  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:07:24am

And on a “resistance” note, everyone drop what you’re doing right now and read this:

I mean it. Read it. MEMORIZE and INTERNALIZE it. There will be a test (like, every single day the craptastic GOPers remain in power -_- )

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:11:20am

re: #242 Blind Frog Belly White

Clearly, Milo is trolling. He’s published a list of speakers intended to inflame, but never even contacted some of them.

Charles Murray, of ‘Bell Curve’ infamy, said he’d never appear at any event with Milo, “Because he is a despicable asshole.”

He really is a pathetic child. And if a douchebag like Murray thinks of you that way, you’ve got prolbems.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:12:18am

re: #239 Weaselone

Sounds good. Only problem is there are no Democratic Mercers to fund this crap. It’s a heavy lift to get wealthy people who would be aligned with Democrats to fund things that essentially undermine democracy, but from the other direction.

Other than Soros I don’t know any. Warren Buffet seems sympathetic to a lot of our world view but I don’t know how much money he gives to candidates. We’re in a post Citizens United world, we need to make the most of it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:13:11am

re: #242 Blind Frog Belly White

Clearly, Milo is trolling. He’s published a list of speakers intended to inflame, but never even contacted some of them.

Charles Murray, of ‘Bell Curve’ infamy, said he’d never appear at any event with Milo, “Because he is a despicable asshole.”

Homophobia, misogyny, white supremacism, anti-Semitism? No problem.

Pedophilia? No go.

That simple.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:14:47am

re: #246 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Homophobia, misogyny, anti-Semitism? No problem.

Pedophilia? No go.

That simple.

I think there’s probably also some good old fashioned snobbery there too. But yeah that was the real breaking point with Milo for CPAC. You’re forgetting though: these guys are homophobes, misogynists, and antisemites themselves, so why would they care about Milo having it?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:16:11am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pres. Trump at #UNGA: “In recent years the United Nations has not reached its full potential, because of bureaucracy and mismanagement.”
— ABC News Politics

(flip to page 2 of speech)

“Ovaltine. Why do they call it Ovaltine? The jar is round. They should call it ‘Roundtine’.”

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:16:20am

Korean “crisis” is really a Korean standoff, and that a puppet show full of bluster is a rather pathetic substitute for professional diplomacy.

Trump and Jong Un are both blustering buffoons, but Jong Un knows that there are limits to what he can do.

Trump doesn’t.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:17:56am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pres. Trump at #UNGA: “In recent years the United Nations has not reached its full potential, because of bureaucracy and mismanagement.”
— ABC News Politics

“Here are 37 detailed steps I am recommending this UN group do to be better and Win again”:

(flips to page 2 of speech)

…..

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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:19:53am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

LIVE: Pres. Trump participates in Reforming the United Nations: Management, Security, and Development meeting
— ABC News

Trump “participates”? Trump golfs, tweets, holds hate rallies, he doesn’t really ‘participate’ in anything.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:22:01am

Ummmm……

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:22:48am

re: #251 Sir John Barron

Trump “participates”? Trump golfs, tweets, holds hate rallies, he doesn’t really ‘participate’ in anything.

Hey, does he get a participation trophy?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:26:18am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think I’ll just go back to sleep…

This UN needs to win again like I win again. You know how many electorals I won? Reform it. North Korea. They are very bad nation, doing bad things with nuclear. Last time I was here I got a unanimous vote against NK. Unaminosu. Osama Obama never got that. Never.

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:28:22am

re: #252 Blind Frog Belly White

Ummmm……

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That’s a shitload of avocado toast, right there.
/

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:28:51am

re: #252 Blind Frog Belly White

Assuming a 72 year lifespan, that works out to, $3.66 MILLION per day.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:28:58am

We’re about to witness another first in the hurricane season:

3 category 4 storms to make landfall somewhere in the Caribbean and potentially US landfall. Puerto Rico is in the bullseye, and it hasn’t been by a storm this strong since 1928.

After crossing Puerto Rico the storm is likely to curl to the NW and then NE, sparing Florida and the East Coast (for now).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:29:47am

hahahahahahahahaaaaaa

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:30:58am

re: #256 Belafon

Assuming a 72 year lifespan, that works out to, $3.66 MILLION per day.

Eat $3.66 Million in food a day, you won’t make 72.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:32:28am

re: #252 Blind Frog Belly White

Ummmm……

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Nonsense I hate sardines.

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Weaselone  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:32:41am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Eh. It may be as simple as Milo being an insufferable asshat. Even Trump prefers interacting with Pelosi and Schumer to talking with the Zombie Eyed Granny Starver and the Koopa Troopa who feeds on human misery.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:33:20am

re: #261 Weaselone

Eh. It may be as simple as Milo being an insufferable asshat. Even Trump prefers interacting with Pelosi and Schumer to talking with the Zombie Eyed Granny Starver and the Koopa Troopa who feeds on human misery.

True true.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:34:24am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

The cheap 12 inch sq. marble tiles behind speaker at UN always bothered me. I will replace with beautiful large marble slabs if they ask me.

If that’s not fake, he’s certifiable.

(Brings up a question: Isn’t it against Twitter policy to hand a Blue-ertified account over to a surrogate? That was Cruz’ excuse on the porn ‘like’.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:36:03am
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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:37:41am

This is a great baseball-themed commercial from Japan. I’ve watched it twice already.

Toyota G’s Japanese Baseball Commercial

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:37:48am
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danarchy  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:38:17am

re: #256 Belafon

Assuming a 72 year lifespan, that works out to, $3.66 MILLION per day.

and then they wonder why they can’t afford to buy a house!

//

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:40:04am

re: #266 goddamnedfrank

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It’s easy for him to say that because no one would hide behind religion to deny him a cake or anything else.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:41:06am

re: #267 danarchy

and then they wonder why they can’t afford to buy a house!

//

I’ll have you know my house is made of avocado toast, craft beer, and sirracha.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:43:48am

re: #269 HappyWarrior

I’ll have you know my house is made of avocado toast, craft beer, and sirrwcha.

Do you know how much a kilo of hummingbird tongues can set you back?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:46:37am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:50:35am

It’s not about “cake”, it’s about discrimination. We would never accept it as a society if someone denied people a good or product because of being Christian. So why should we accept it if someone is gay? Plus it’s setting up dangerous precedents where people think they can deny someone vital services because of their sexuality. It’s easy to go “Well just shop somewhere else.”

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:54:08am

Lol this thread.

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:56:35am

This is…somewhat odd. Sign language interpreter used gibberish, warned of bears, monsters during Hurricane Irma update

Officials in Manatee County, Florida are under fire after an interpreter for the deaf warned about pizza and monsters during an emergency briefing related to Hurricane Irma.

The interpreter, Marshall Greene, a lifeguard for the county, has a brother who is deaf, according to the DailyMoth, a video news site that provides information via American Sign Language. Greene was used as the interpreter for a Sept. 8 press conference regarding the incoming storm and possible evacuations.

Members of the deaf community said Greene mostly signed gibberish, referencing “pizza,” “monsters,” and using the phrase “help you at that time to use bear big,” during the event. Other information signed to viewers was incomplete, experts said.

The county typically uses interpreters from VisCom, a professional sign language interpreting service. VisCom owner Charlene McCarthy told local media she was not contacted about providing services for the press conference and that Greene was apparently not fluent in American Sign Language.

The press conference in question, with subtitles for the ‘signing:’

Hurricane Irma Emergency Fake Interpreter

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:57:16am

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

Heh. Here is a TV star who doesn’t own a TV. Way to promote the industry, Shailene!

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Shailene is obviously in the pockets of Big Literacy.

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William Lewis  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:57:21am

re: #93 Kragar

Makes Imperium Tech seem downright trustworthy.

Ah but Federation is super duper cutting edge! So that’s a Feature, not a Bug!

tor.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 8:58:07am

re: #275 BlueSpotinAL

Shailene is obviously in the pockets of Big Literacy.

Big Book!

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William Lewis  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:00:47am

re: #265 makeitstop

This is a great baseball-themed commercial from Japan. I’ve watched it twice already.

[Embedded content]

Video

Not a baseball fan but that. Is. Cute.

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:03:19am

re: #278 William Lewis

Not a baseball fan but that. Is. Cute.

Certain parts of it made me laugh out loud, like the look on the black guy’s face when the cop ‘throws him out.’

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Stanley Sea  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:03:44am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:11:30am

re: #273 goddamnedfrank

Lol this thread.

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So what is Ramirez’s solution for getting rid of the National Debt? If you asked him he’d probably say TAX CUTS!!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:12:55am
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ObserverArt  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:13:11am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL…I’m sure…

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There are three things we can all be sure of.

Death.

Taxes.

Kellyanne Conway is lying again.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:14:04am

Casualty reports coming in:
College football player dies after complaining he felt sick during game

WOOSTER, Ohio — Officials say a football player at the College of Wooster has died after being hospitalized after a game Saturday when he complained he didn’t feel well.

A college spokesman says 21-year-old Clayton Gelb died Sunday afternoon at a hospital in Wooster. He was a senior offensive lineman on the team and a chemistry major at the school.

Spokesman Hugh Howard said he couldn’t provide any details about what caused Gelb’s death. Gelb started at right guard in Saturday’s 38-20 home win over Ohio Wesleyan University.

Okay, this guy was 21, he exercised constantly, and his health and physical condition were professionally monitored. Yet this is not a particularly unusual occurrence. It’s the game.

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BeachDem  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:14:23am

re: #243 Interesting Times

And on a “resistance” note, everyone drop what you’re doing right now and read this:

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I mean it. Read it. MEMORIZE and INTERNALIZE it. There will be a test (like, every single day the craptastic GOPers remain in power -_- )

Don’t think of an elephant—writ large.

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ObserverArt  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:20:33am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

Other than Soros I don’t know any. Warren Buffet seems sympathetic to a lot of our world view but I don’t know how much money he gives to candidates. We’re in a post Citizens United world, we need to make the most of it.

Hillary seemed to do okay with the money last election.

Maybe she and Bill can help out by being Democratic piggy bank helpers. They have some connections.

Oh sure…it is going to take some Wall Street and Hollywood bucks, but screw it, we gotta do what we gotta do. It is critical time.

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danarchy  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:20:56am

re: #284 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Casualty reports coming in:
College football player dies after complaining he felt sick during game

Okay, this guy was 21, he exercised constantly, and his health and physical condition were professionally monitored. Yet this is not a particularly unusual occurrence. It’s the game.

Basketball player dies after collapsing during game.

Soccer player dies after collapsing in training.

Your right, it must be the game…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:24:08am

re: #287 danarchy

Basketball player dies after collapsing during game.

Soccer player dies after collapsing in training.

Your right, it must be the game…

would be interesting to see the stats on players who collapse and die listed per sport.

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BeachDem  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:24:38am

Well, as long as Mr. Maverick is reluctant about going along with a giant shit sandwich, all is well.

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:29:40am

Hey all of you…I need some help.

I have never used GoFundMe and if anyone has, could you please help me understand how it works.

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:30:39am

re: #290 MsJ

This is the other photo.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:31:35am

re: #284 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Dogs are at risk too

tee retrieving dog at Boise State

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ObserverArt  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:31:45am

re: #281 The Vicious Babushka

So what is Ramirez’s solution for getting rid of the National Debt? If you asked him he’d probably say TAX CUTS!!!!!!

Ramirez is a very talented cartoonist/illustrator. Too bad he is drunk on Republican thinking. I really wonder what damaged him so?

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scottslemmons  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:32:24am

Ugh, someone remind me why a military coup would be a bad thing? I’m not entirely sure they could fuck things up as bad as the Republicans are going to do. >:(

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JordanRules  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:32:34am

Just about everybody I’ve seen that says this, has come back. He does have his book to focus on right now.

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:32:41am

re: #291 MsJ

Damn, I keep posting these in error before I could finish!!

This is what I would like some help with.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:34:14am

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:34:59am

re: #290 MsJ

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:35:04am

re: #294 scottslemmons

Ugh, someone remind me why a military coup would be a bad thing? I’m not entirely sure they could fuck things up as bad as the Republicans are going to do. >:(

Here’s my reason: It won’t fix the problem. We go through a coup, what next? A constitutional rewrite? By whom? The military? And you’re still left with the populace not learning a lesson.

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BeachDem  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:36:28am

re: #290 MsJ

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ObserverArt  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:37:21am

re: #284 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Casualty reports coming in:
College football player dies after complaining he felt sick during game

Okay, this guy was 21, he exercised constantly, and his health and physical condition were professionally monitored. Yet this is not a particularly unusual occurrence. It’s the game.

Can you be sure of that? I’m thinking it could be something like a heart problem.

I know people do not like football as much anymore, but what sports will be acceptable?

Do you know a lot of people die playing baseball too. How many cases of a kid getting hit in the chest with a pitch and it stops the heart are on record?

Basketball players have died from heart problems while playing or after a game sort of like what happened to the young man from Wooster College.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:39:32am

re: #287 danarchy

Basketball player dies after collapsing during game.

Soccer player dies after collapsing in training.

Your right, it must be the game…

Two cases don’t prove anything, except that risk is not absolutely exclusive to football, a claim nobody has made.

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:42:39am

re: #298 Shropshire Slasher

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:44:32am

re: #301 ObserverArt

Can you be sure of that? I’m thinking it could be something like a heart problem.

I know people do not like football as much anymore, but what sports will be acceptable?

Do you know a lot of people die playing baseball too. How many cases of a kid getting hit in the chest with a pitch and it stops the heart are on record?

Basketball players have died from heart problems while playing or after a game sort of like what happened to the young man from Wooster College.

It could be the same condition I have. It’s sad. A lot of people don’t know they have this condition until it’s too late. FWIW, my condition is Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. I just can’t over exert myself. So I can and do exercise but I don’t do anything like competitive sports or marathon running.

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dangerman  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:44:36am

danger here, just for a moment

we made it through irma just fine. got a fair amount of cleanup to do still
we got power, got the inside cleaned up and restocked some of the fridge.

no internet at home which for us also means no workable phones and so no email or surfing through them either. we do get some texts. dangermom has power, internet, tv, food, etc. like nothing happened 8 miles away.

mrs dm is working from starbucks

i’m auditing a client in st. lucie county so im hooked up today as well. but this is real work on a tight schedule so i cant stick around

thanks to one and all who responded or upvoted the status posts i was able to make. when one is cut off and sort of isolated even in a city, even with family, it feels good to know the roots are still connected. and i trust the rest of you in the path did ok too.

one day i may tell you the story of my all time favorite dive student from the days of 1994. last week, while im worrying about the hurricane, sending her updates where we are and what were going through, she had her colon and other parts surgically removed. a devastating and debilitating major surgery. didnt say a word about it until we were home safe.

be thankful for everything you have
do justice to the opportunity of your existence today.

dm

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:44:57am

re: #303 MsJ

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Dave In Austin  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:45:32am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:46:25am

re: #300 BeachDem

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:47:39am

re: #301 ObserverArt

Can you be sure of that? I’m thinking it could be something like a heart problem.

I know people do not like football as much anymore, but what sports will acceptable?

Do you know a lot of people die playing baseball too. How many cases of a kid getting hit in the chest with a pitch and it stops the heart are on record?

Basketball players have died from heart problems while playing or after a game sort of like what happened to the young man from Wooster College.

Average 12 high school and college football players die each year, study says

The 243 deaths in total over 20 years work out to one for every 100,000 high school and college football players during that period.

High school athletes accounted for 203 of those deaths; but because there are so many more high school players, a college player was statistically almost three times more likely to die playing football than a high school player during the study period.

List of association footballers who died while playingThis is a complete list of soccer players who have died while playing since 1889. This sport has 250 million participants.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:48:19am

re: #303 MsJ

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danarchy  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:50:25am

re: #302 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Two cases don’t prove anything, except that risk is not absolutely exclusive to football, a claim nobody has made.

Deadliest highschool sports

Researchers collected data from 1982 to 2011 for all high school sports and millions of high school athletes. Total fatality rates were then calculated per 100,000 participants.

The deadliest sport during this time had a fatality rate of 2.89 deaths per 100,000, which was more than double the second deadliest sport. Football was the fourth deadliest sport with a fatality rate of .81 per 100,000 participants.

Cheerleading, which has been shown to be the most dangerous activity based on injury data, was not included in the study because it was not classified as a sport.

Edit: For comparison, the rate in basketball which is the closest for number of participants is .76 per 100000. Soccer was .45.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:50:57am

re: #309 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

If they have what #304 HappyWarrior has, I could see students being in really good shape and playing through their condition when they are young, and then getting to college and being hit by both how long they’ve overexerted themselves and how much the intensity of the game goes up in college.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:52:59am

re: #312 Belafon

If they have what #304 HappyWarrior has, I could see students being in really good shape and playing through their condition when they are young, and then getting to college and being hit by both how long they’ve overexerted themselves and how much the intensity of the game goes up in college.

Right and the thing about this condition is you don’t know if you’re tested. I was actually seriously considering going out for the high school freshman football team but my mom wanted me tested as her father had a murmur and sure enough, they found my condition which is worse than a murmur. You can be in top notch shape and have it. I’d recommend that any prospective athlete get themselves looked at before playing. especially in college and beyond.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:55:14am

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahahahahaaaaaa

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Time to appoint horses to the cabinet just to be sure.

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JordanRules  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:55:39am

LOL

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Stanley Sea  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:56:51am

Hopefully the spawn’s businesses are circling the drain.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:57:14am

re: #315 JordanRules

LOL

‘Projection’ would also explain the Republican party.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:57:26am

re: #315 JordanRules

LOL

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That didn’t help me in physics class.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:57:48am

re: #317 Belafon

‘Projection’ would also explain the Republican party.

and entire conservative movement.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:58:48am

It gets really old when I feel like I have to wrap my computer or someone else’s and all of its programs in a full-body condom for its own protection.

Sigh

Link

I think I installed this on a friend’s computer two weeks ago after I did a reinstall for him. It’s a decent app if you just want to clear your multiple browser histories and whatnot, especially for those that don’t know a whole lot about computers.

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Weaselone  Sep 18, 2017 • 9:59:46am

re: #309 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Average 12 high school and college football players die each year, study says

List of association footballers who died while playingThis is a complete list of soccer players who have died while playing since 1889. This sport has 250 million participants.

A quick Google search indicates that this soccer list is not comprehensive. For example the below don’t show up on the list

Link

nbcchicago.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:00:09am

re: #293 ObserverArt

Ramirez is a very talented cartoonist/illustrator. Too bad he is drunk on Republican thinking. I really wonder what damaged him so?

He’s a screaming wingnut just like Ben Garrison, Andy Branco and the Brothers McCoy, except that he does have some talent.

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BeachDem  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:02:30am

re: #308 MsJ

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:06:26am

re: #310 Colère Tueur de Lapin

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And this is why I love this LGF community.

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alloutofcrazyhere  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:07:20am

Screw it, I am going to just go buy another SSD and load anything suspect through a VM on the new drive at this point.

#*&$^#$!!

There’s always backups. Glad I didn’t install that though.

Time to go yell at the clouds.

Maybe I’ll run into John McCain.

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:08:26am

re: #323 BeachDem

Thank you very much!

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:10:19am

re: #324 MsJ

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:13:43am

“Boys are better at physics because they learn about ‘projection’ while going to the toilet, researchers say”

Anybody who has been in a men’s bathroom knows that they can’t “project” worth a damn.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:15:43am

re: #284 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Casualty reports coming in:
College football player dies after complaining he felt sick during game

Okay, this guy was 21, he exercised constantly, and his health and physical condition were professionally monitored. Yet this is not a particularly unusual occurrence. It’s the game.

Or Sickle-cell/Rhabdo. Killed a lot of healthy soldiers who had not been run abnormally ragged.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:18:17am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:19:24am

Rhabdomyolysis

en.wikipedia.org

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:22:06am

re: #328 BlueSpotinAL

“Boys are better at physics because they learn about ‘projection’ while going to the toilet, researchers say”

Anybody who has been in a men’s bathroom knows that they can’t “project” worth a damn.

Honest to god, that is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen. And we live in a time of really dumb things. Who would even write an article like that? Couple what you wrote with this drivel…

“Playful urination practices - from seeing how high you can pee to games such as Peeball (where men compete using their urine to destroy a ball placed in a urinal) - may give boys an advantage over girls when it comes to physics,” the academics wrote.

Shoot me now.

And this is their #1 article.

Is this a Murdoch rag?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:23:47am

re: #328 BlueSpotinAL

“Boys are better at physics because they learn about ‘projection’ while going to the toilet, researchers say”

Anybody who has been in a men’s bathroom knows that they can’t “project” worth a damn.

Style and Accuracy are scored separately.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:26:11am

I was really good at “projection” on my old Apple II+, but real life was a whole different story.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:26:14am

re: #311 danarchy

Deadliest highschool sports

Actual data referenced in that article
National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Data tables.
Note the admonition “Rates with number of incidents less than 5 should be interpreted with caution.”

The rates for the 2 sports that rank as deadlier than football, water polo and boys gymnastics, were based on such small sample sizes that a single death would seriously skew the rate. Specifically, there were 4 fatalities in water polo and 1 in gymnastics. There is no listing for “boys softball,” claimed as “deadlier than football” in your article, but there was a single death in girls softball.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:28:18am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

As well as Berniecare, right?

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:34:44am

re: #335 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The separate table for indirect injuries:

I wish you could replace an image in correction mode.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:42:17am

Footage of the bad bus crash killing has been released. It shows a private bus running a red light and crashing into a MTA bus that was turning.

That private bus was flying when it crashed into the MTA bus.

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BeachDem  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:46:48am

re: #326 MsJ

Thank you very much!

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:52:42am

As the resident High School Football coach:

Our team, and many others in our area, push extra cardiac testing if that student has had family members with any type of heart problem, or murmur. Anecdotally, this seems to be an issue more with African American males than white males. I have no data to back that up. Of the previous four or five deaths in my state that I can recall, all were due to some pre-existing, but undiscovered heart condition.

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2017 • 10:54:27am

re: #339 BeachDem

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JordanRules  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:02:50am

Shit.

Trying to get thru to McCain’s office.

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sagehen  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:06:23am

re: #340 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

As the resident High School Football coach:

Our team, and many others in our area, push extra cardiac testing if that student has had family members with any type of heart problem, or murmur. Anecdotally, this seems to be an issue more with African American males than white males. I have no data to back that up. Of the previous four or five deaths in my state that I can recall, all were due to some pre-existing, but undiscovered heart condition.

Is that because African Americans are more likely to have those conditions, or because their pre-existing conditions are more likely to be undiscovered? Pretty sure any parent who knew their kid had heart trouble would have urged them to play violin, or chess, instead of football.

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BeachDem  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:06:51am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But hey, it’s a-OK with Lindsey’s BFF John “Maverick” McCain.

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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:08:47am

re: #342 JordanRules

Shit.

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Trying to get thru to McCain’s office.

Amazing what happens when you get your pockets stuffed with money.

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meteor  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:09:59am

re: #315 JordanRules

Everyone knows boys have cooties.

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Weaselone  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:10:17am

re: #342 JordanRules

It’s the block grant funding. Sure Arizona loses a ton in Medicaid funding, but it gets the freedom to spend what it doesn’t on things only loosely related to medical care. That means more tax cuts.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:14:45am

re: #343 sagehen

Is that because African Americans are more likely to have those conditions, or because their pre-existing conditions are more likely to be undiscovered? Pretty sure any parent who knew their kid had heart trouble would have urged them to play violin, or chess, instead of football.

That is the million dollar question. I don’t really know the answer. I could see both being equally correct. The standard sports physical that all potential student athletes must complete(yearly) before playing does not reveal most of these conditions. The testing is pretty expensive.

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BeachDem  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:15:19am

This seems counter-productive.

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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:15:55am

re: #347 Weaselone

It’s the block grant funding. Sure Arizona loses a ton in Medicaid funding, but it gets the freedom to spend what it doesn’t on things only loosely related to medical care. That means more tax cuts.

Exactly, which means this is the GOP using the framework of the ACA to give their buddies bad home a shit-ton of money to use to spackle over huge gaps in their tax-starved budgets.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:16:42am
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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:17:33am

re: #349 BeachDem

This seems counter-productive.

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It is counter-productive, as you’re alienating your greatest allies and giving your opponents an example of how you’re “rabble-rousers.”

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:17:43am

Graham Cassidy is the same warmed over Trumpcare tax scheme to gut health coverage for tens of millions of people. Trumpcare was a tax scheme because that was the goal - shift the tax burden from rich to everyone else.

Graham Cassidy is the same, but it goes after a different aspect of Medicaid to do it. It’s going to take massive amounts of funding from states that have been good at protecting their citizens and giving a portion of it to states that screwed their citizens over the years since Obamacare was enacted.

The balance gets pocketed by the rich.

It’s still a massive tax grab for the rich, and the burdens fall to everyone else - disporportionately those states that followed the law and did right by their residents.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:19:15am

re: #347 Weaselone

It’s the block grant funding. Sure Arizona loses a ton in Medicaid funding, but it gets the freedom to spend what it doesn’t on things only loosely related to medical care. That means more tax cuts.

And more money for “crisis pregnancy centers”

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:25:00am
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BeachDem  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:25:15am

re: #350 Targetpractice

Exactly, which means this is the GOP using the framework of the ACA to give their buddies bad home a shit-ton of money to use to spackle over huge gaps in their tax-starved budgets.

And of course, it’s Lindsey Graham leading the pack from a state that turned down Medicaid expansion.

Like the earlier version of the Cassidy-Graham plan, the revised plan would disproportionately harm certain states. The block grant would not only cut overall funding for the Medicaid expansion and marketplace subsidies but also, starting in 2021, redistribute the reduced federal funding across states, based on their share of low-income residents rather than their actual spending needs. In general, over time, the plan would punish states that have adopted the Medicaid expansion or been more successful at enrolling low- and moderate-income people in marketplace coverage under the ACA. It would impose less damaging cuts, or even raise funding initially, for states that have rejected the Medicaid expansion or enrolled few low-income residents in marketplace coverage.

cbpp.org

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Jay C  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:27:30am

re: #349 BeachDem

This seems counter-productive.

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Could be worse: they could have disrupted a Republican Congresscritter’s presser and gotten swept up by ICE or the cops…..

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JordanRules  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:37:39am

re: #349 BeachDem

Hmmmm…

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Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:38:51am
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BeachDem  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:38:52am

re: #358 JordanRules

Hmmmm…

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Hmmmm is right—now I’m really suspicious, because the whole thing makes no sense otherwise.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:39:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:42:41am

*barf*

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Kragar  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:44:05am
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wrenchwench  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:45:43am

re: #353 lawhawk

[an intellectual and moral garbage truck fire]

I actually had a former garbage man tell me how they deal with a load on fire: dump it ASAP. The delicate, expensive hydraulics on that truck are at stake. This man now sells the stickers they put on those trucks. He makes money after one catches fire.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:45:45am

Amazing video

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:46:08am

re: #363 Kragar

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The fuck.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:52:07am
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BeachDem  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:52:18am

So Glenn has moved on from normalizing those IN the WH to further normalizing those OUT of the WH. Spit. (I’m sure Maggie will be along soon to “magsplain” why this is such an important story.)

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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:53:07am

re: #363 Kragar

The only racist thing is you saying that we’re racists! Youre the racists!!!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:54:16am

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

*barf*

My son in law is best negotiator (besides me!). Will make happen.

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Interesting Times  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:54:20am

re: #368 BeachDem

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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:56:06am

re: #338 lawhawk

Footage of the bad bus crash killing has been released. It shows a private bus running a red light and crashing into a MTA bus that was turning.

That private bus was flying when it crashed into the MTA bus.

Oh man…

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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:58:26am

re: #332 MsJ

“Playful urination practices - from seeing how high you can pee to games such as Peeball (where men compete using their urine to destroy a ball placed in a urinal) - may give boys an advantage over girls when it comes to physics,” the academics wrote.

Sweet fancy Moses

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:59:15am

re: #359 Dr. Matt

What happens when Steve Vai runs into 2Cellos on a Highway to Hell…

2CELLOS - Highway To Hell feat. Steve Vai [OFFICIAL VIDEO]

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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2017 • 11:59:43am

re: #367 jaunte

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The GOP has gone from trying to work the refs to telling us the refs are crooked to now just bypassing the refs altogether.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:00:25pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:03:49pm

OMG this gif!

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scottslemmons  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:06:14pm

re: #377 goddamnedfrank

OMG this gif!

[Embedded content]

The commercial the gif came from:

This Unicorn Changed the Way I Poop - #SquattyPotty

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plansbandc  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:07:52pm

re: #363 Kragar

What in the blithering fuck?

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:12:30pm

re: #378 scottslemmons

The commercial the gif came from:

[Embedded content]

Video

Am now scarred for life thanks!

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:12:44pm

One more day of embarrassment for America.

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sagehen  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:13:54pm

re: #350 Targetpractice

Exactly, which means this is the GOP using the framework of the ACA to give their buddies bad home a shit-ton of money to use to spackle over huge gaps in their tax-starved budgets.

Screwing over the blue states is just icing on the cake.

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plansbandc  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:16:08pm

re: #381 jaunte

All damn day every damn day.

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scottslemmons  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:19:49pm

re: #380 goddamnedfrank

Am now scarred for life thanks!

I live to serve!

Of course, during the Trump regime, it’s officially the least offensive thing you’ll see all year! :)

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:20:05pm
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jaunte  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:20:30pm
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petesh  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:21:12pm

re: #359 Dr. Matt

When Someone Requests A Steve Vai Song

[Embedded content]

Video

I say, that chap is quite proficient

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:30:52pm

re: #382 sagehen

Screwing over the blue states is just icing on the cake.

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BeachDem  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:36:45pm

re: #378 scottslemmons

The commercial the gif came from:

[Embedded content]

Why am I not surprised that my wingnut brother actually owns one of these. (Will not watch commercial.)

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IngisKahn  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:42:49pm

re: #389 BeachDem

Hey! I do too. They work!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:43:10pm

re: #348 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

That is the million dollar question. I don’t really know the answer. I could see both being equally correct. The standard sports physical that all potential student athletes must complete(yearly) before playing does not reveal most of these conditions. The testing is pretty expensive.

Check into Rhabdo, above. The article in Wiki doesn’t push it, but the Army Surgeon General was working on the link to Sickle Cell and thence to deaths among young soldiers.

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:47:22pm

re: #378 scottslemmons

The commercial the gif came from:

[Embedded content]

That’s as bad as those spots for ‘VIPoo.’ It took seeing it a few times to realize it was for a real product.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2017 • 12:55:04pm

re: #389 BeachDem

Why am I not surprised that my wingnut brother actually owns one of these. (Will not watch commercial.)

You have to! It’s hilarious!


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