Oops! Rudy Giuliani Screwed Up, and Now He’s Being Sent Out to “Clarify” His “Views”

What a gang of malevolent yet incompetent clowns
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In today’s episode of the Comedy of Villains, Rudy Giuliani has been sent on the media rounds today, to try to walk back the insanely damaging statements he made yesterday about Trump’s hush money payoff to porn star Stormy Daniels.

The story they agreed on is that Trump just found out about the payoff.

The excuse seems to be that Trump is a busy man, and wealthy, and he has little people who scurry around with satchels of cash to hand out to any porn stars he needs silenced. Kind of like remora attached to sharks.

But this is the part that elicited an audible guffaw from yours truly.

In a telephone interview with NBC News, Giuliani insisted he only shared details of the payment with Trump about a week ago.

“I don’t think the president realized he paid him (Cohen) back for that specific thing until we (his legal team) made him aware of the paperwork,” he said.

Giuliani said the president responded, “Oh my goodness, I guess that’s what it was for.”

I just keep imagining Trump saying, “Oh my goodness!” and cracking up.

And here’s another new statement from Repentant Rudy. Trump must have read him the riot act. Oh my goodness!

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459 comments

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 11:14:11am

These guys can’t be trusted. There’s no reason to believe anything they say about anything.

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BigPapa  May 4, 2018 • 11:17:48am

So Giuliani, who just got ‘hired,’ just informed Trump that another lawyer/un-lawyer/coffee lawyer paid off a porn star to the tune of $130k to keep her from telling about a tryst they didn’t actually have.

This is like the thinnest of wet tissue papers of plausibility. And it’s very windy.

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b.d. (Be Best)  May 4, 2018 • 11:20:24am

So tired of winning

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goddamnedfrank  May 4, 2018 • 11:21:05am

“It would have been done in any event, whether he was a candidate or not.”

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stpaulbear  May 4, 2018 • 11:21:55am

Rudy (or whoever wrote that and gave it to him): “…former Director Comey - an inferior executive officer…”

Comey: “Hold my book…”

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b.d. (Be Best)  May 4, 2018 • 11:21:56am

lol:

Oh my goodness, I guess that’s what it was for.”

Yep that sounds just like Trump…

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 4, 2018 • 11:21:59am

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

“It would have been done in any event, whether he was a candidate or not.”

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Why do I get the feeling that Avenatti is having a lot of fun with this?

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S'latch  May 4, 2018 • 11:22:19am

Today, the Right-wing nut-job-o-sphere is going crazy about U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III.

This article explains what it really means.

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 11:23:31am

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

“It would have been done in any event, whether he was a candidate or not.”

The difference, though, is we have different rules for candidates for office for a reason. For one, things like this open candidates up to blackmail.

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 11:24:23am

re: #8 S’latch

Today, the Right-wing nut-job-o-sphere is going crazy about U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III.

This article explains what it really means.

They weren’t the only ones (see the previous thread).

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stpaulbear  May 4, 2018 • 11:26:23am

re: #7 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Why do I get the feeling that Avenatti is having a lot of fun with this?

It sounds more to me like Avenatti is genuinely VERY pissed off. He’s been really serious and angry during his news show appearances since Rudy’s meltdown on Hannity. He’s sick of this shit.

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Amory Blaine  May 4, 2018 • 11:26:27am

Ah, all cleared up then. Nothing to see here.

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goddamnedfrank  May 4, 2018 • 11:27:51am

re: #9 Belafon

The difference, though, is we have different rules for candidates for office for a reason. For one, things like this open candidates up to blackmail.

Also, it’s a patently ridiculous lie. He and Melania hate each other and if Trump wasn’t a candidate he wouldn’t have given a fractional shit about sparing her the embarrassment.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 11:29:10am

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

Also, it’s a patently ridiculous lie. He and Melania hate each other and if Trump wasn’t a candidate he wouldn’t have given a fractional shit about sparing her the embarrassment.

Indeed. After all Ivanna found about his fucking around through his big fat mouth in the tabloids.

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ObserverArt  May 4, 2018 • 11:31:39am

re: #5 stpaulbear

Rudy (or whoever wrote that and gave it to him): “…former Director Comey - an inferior executive officer…”

Comey: “Hold my book…”

That for sure was a Trump entry. He always has to pile on the little negatives when he is being negative about someone, just as he also over adds the superlatives when he is being positive, especially when talking about himself.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 11:31:45am

re: #1 HappyWarrior

These guys can’t be trusted. There’s no reason to believe anything they say about anything.

that is not the point, they just have to come up with a new lie to replace the old one

I still recall Nixon’s Press Sec Ron “That statement is no longer operative” Ziegler.

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makeitstop  May 4, 2018 • 11:32:28am

It’s clear why Trump brought Yuck Mouth on as a lawyer - they both have palmetto-sized bugs up their asses for Clinton and Comey.

I can imagine these two bitter old sons of bitches, sitting around and taking turns jacking up each other’s hatred.

It’s not the optimum environment for devising a level-headed legal strategy, to say the least.

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ObserverArt  May 4, 2018 • 11:34:36am

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

Also, it’s a patently ridiculous lie. He and Melania hate each other and if Trump wasn’t a candidate he wouldn’t have given a fractional shit about sparing her the embarrassment.

I think that is called ‘keeping up the appearances for the neighbors.’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 11:35:55am

Rudy’s teeth really annoy me.
Either get veneers for the bottom teeth or get the upper denture to match the shade of the lower teeth.

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gocart mozart  May 4, 2018 • 11:37:13am
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 11:38:30am

re: #16 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is not the point, they just have to come up with a new lie to replace the old one

I still recall Nixon’s Press Sec Ron “That statement is no longer operative” Ziegler.

And we saw how Nixon ended right?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 11:40:09am

re: #21 HappyWarrior

And we saw how Nixon ended right?

You do not hire an attorney to make public statements that he needs to backpedal on.

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BigPapa  May 4, 2018 • 11:41:02am

Has it occurred to Trump or any of his lawyers to… I don’t know, STFU about stuff?

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 11:42:03am

re: #22 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You do not hire an attorney to make public statements that he needs to backpedal on.

Yeah you don’t. Whole thing just makes my head hurt.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 11:42:35am

re: #23 BigPapa

Has it occurred to Trump or any of his lawyers to… I don’t know, STFU about stuff?

I don’t think it has. You have so many guys in that team that love hearing themselves talk.

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ObserverArt  May 4, 2018 • 11:45:01am

re: #23 BigPapa

Has it occurred to Trump or any of his lawyers to… I don’t know, STFU about stuff?

Unpossible.

Trump’s whole essence is his big mouth.

That has been his identity since forever.

You can’t stop that.

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 11:46:56am

re: #26 ObserverArt

Unpossible.

Trump’s whole essence is his big mouth.

That has been his identity since forever.

You can’t stop that.

“I hear, Mr. President, that if you just confess to everything, you can get out of trouble.”
“Are you sure?”
“It can’t hurt, can it?”

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BigPapa  May 4, 2018 • 11:47:00am

It’s clearly ego. Trump sees himself as skilled at trying any case in the court of public opinion but his Dunning Krueger ratio is off the charts.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 11:49:16am

Guys, Danny DeVito for Rudy on SNL, this week. Please!

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makeitstop  May 4, 2018 • 11:50:45am

Nunes just wanted to say he saw these documents and then be able to make up what he wanted to be in them.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 11:53:42am

re: #30 makeitstop

Nunes just wanted to say he saw these documents and then be able to make up what he wanted to be in them.

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Nunes is a swamp monster.

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Barefoot Grin  May 4, 2018 • 11:54:11am

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rudy’s teeth really annoy me.
Either get veneers for the bottom teeth or get the upper denture to match the shade of the lower teeth.

For me it’s also the way his crooked face makes it impossible to wear glasses so that they don’t slant.

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makeitstop  May 4, 2018 • 11:54:24am

re: #31 HappyWarrior

Nunes is a swamp monster.

You apologize to swamp monsters this very minute, young man.

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ObserverArt  May 4, 2018 • 11:54:38am

re: #30 makeitstop

Nunes just wanted to say he saw these documents and then be able to make up what he wanted to be in them.

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Nunes and Carter page still remain the biggest mystery men in this whole affair.

They are like the secondary characters in a good novel who turn out to be story changers when all is revealed near the end of the book.

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Sir John Barron  May 4, 2018 • 11:56:31am

re: #23 BigPapa

Has it occurred to Trump or any of his lawyers to… I don’t know, STFU about stuff?

Sure, that’s why he keeps having to replace lawyers.

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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 11:57:11am

My power, she is no more. Battery on phone is 78%. No ETA for when the power might return.

Shit’s blowing everywhere outside. It’s windy with a capital Holy Shit.

Weeeeeeeeee.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 11:57:21am

re: #33 makeitstop

You apologize to swamp monsters this very minute, young man.

I’m sorry swamp monsters. That was mean.

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goddamnedfrank  May 4, 2018 • 11:57:31am

I finally caved and joined the Cult of Instant Pot.

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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 11:58:36am

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

I finally caved and joined the Cult of Instant Pot.

And… What cha think?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 11:58:57am

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

I finally caved and joined the Cult of Instant Pot.

About time. People were starting to gossip about your lack of an Instant Pot.

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makeitstop  May 4, 2018 • 11:59:12am

LOL

‘Drunken barn owl.’ Nailed it, Hoarse.

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wrenchwench  May 4, 2018 • 11:59:17am

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

I finally caved and joined the Cult of Instant Pot.

You must relinquish all your cast iron.

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goddamnedfrank  May 4, 2018 • 12:00:52pm

re: #39 MsJ

And… What cha think?

Just ordered it on Amazon. Thinking of breaking eight years of abstinence and getting some actual pot now, baking pot goodies in my Instant Pot and opening a rift in spacetime.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:01:22pm

Rudy who once wanted the Feds to profile all Muslims complaining about the Feds and likening the FBI yo stormtroopers was pretty rich.

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Interesting Times  May 4, 2018 • 12:02:23pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

Speaking of things you decided to do recently, how is the CatZ laser eye surgery working out?

Asking because I’m afraid of being dependent on glasses/contacts in the event of an apocalypse.

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goddamnedfrank  May 4, 2018 • 12:02:30pm

P.S. I got the ULTRA because that’s how I roll, either not at all or balls out, never in between.

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ObserverArt  May 4, 2018 • 12:03:07pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

I finally caved and joined the Cult of Instant Pot.

Bending to the social pressure Frank, doesn’t seem to be your style.

Heh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:03:08pm

re: #36 MsJ

My power, she is no more. Battery on phone is 78%. No ETA for when the power might return.

Shit’s blowing everywhere outside. It’s windy with a capital Holy Shit.

Weeeeeeeeee.

Two outages at the moment. One has a crew on site, crew has been dispatched to the larger site.

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BigPapa  May 4, 2018 • 12:03:56pm

Would the be the ULTRA Instant Pot or the Instant ULTRA Pot or Instant Pot ULTRA?

I like iPU

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 12:03:58pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

Just ordered it on Amazon. Thinking of breaking eight years of abstinence and getting some actual pot now, baking pot goodies in my Instant Pot and opening a rift in spacetime.

Eight years? I took 4 months off, and that was bad enough!

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makeitstop  May 4, 2018 • 12:05:43pm

OT: Never saw this before today, but they stunned me with how well they did it.

Green Day covers the Rolling Stones.

Green Day - Rip This Joint (The Rolling Stones Cover) [LIVE]

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Dave In Austin  May 4, 2018 • 12:05:46pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 12:06:36pm

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

P.S. I got the ULTRA because that’s how I roll, either not at all or balls out, never in between.

I only got the 7 in 1 version, but I did go with the 8qt version, so I can make 5 meals to freeze at once.

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goddamnedfrank  May 4, 2018 • 12:06:36pm

re: #45 Interesting Times

Speaking of things you decided to do recently, how is the CatZ laser eye surgery working out?

Asking because I’m afraid of being dependent on glasses/contacts in the event of an apocalypse.

I’m still 20/20 at distance, almost 20/15. Need readers now for up close but that was inevitable anyway. It was expensive but worth it. Dr Dougherty in Thousand Oaks is the guy who did mine, he wrote the clinical study that got CATz approved in the US.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 12:07:27pm

re: #50 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Eight years? I took 4 months off, and that was bad enough!

I am taking a break for past couple of months, mostly for financial reasons and last times I tried it I just did not enjoy the effects, went all existentially catatonic…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 12:10:07pm

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am taking a break for past couple of months, mostly for financial reasons and last times I tried it I just did not enjoy the effects, went all existentially catatonic…

I bought a 3D printer with the money saved from my tolerance break.

I use it to get semi-catatonic. It helps me settle down and enjoy TV and movies instead of multitasking, and improves my sleep.

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goddamnedfrank  May 4, 2018 • 12:10:16pm

re: #49 BigPapa

Would the be the ULTRA Instant Pot or the Instant ULTRA Pot or Instant Pot ULTRA?

I like iPU

Instant Pot Ultra 6 qt. On sale right now for $109.99

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Semper Fi  May 4, 2018 • 12:10:51pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

I finally caved and joined the Cult of Instant Pot.

I’ve been toying with that idea…what size did you get?

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sizzzzlerz  May 4, 2018 • 12:11:33pm

Riiiiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhttt

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gocart mozart  May 4, 2018 • 12:11:42pm

re: #51 makeitstop

I didn’t know that TED CRUZ plays drums for GREEN DAY.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:12:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:13:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:13:24pm
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:13:39pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good grief.

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BigPapa  May 4, 2018 • 12:13:40pm

What if you cooked edibles in an Instant Pot?

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:14:28pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s going to go after the Parkland kids isn’t he?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:14:30pm
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:14:42pm

re: #65 BigPapa

What if you cooked edibles in an Instant Pot?

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Dude…..

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makeitstop  May 4, 2018 • 12:14:57pm

re: #60 gocart mozart

I didn’t know that TED CRUZ plays drums for GREEN DAY.

Easy, Killer. That’s Tré Cool you’re talking about there…

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gocart mozart  May 4, 2018 • 12:15:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:15:18pm
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:15:31pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s so pathetic. I hope his constant litigation bankrupts him and his estate.

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Sir John Barron  May 4, 2018 • 12:15:40pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought he hardly knew Manafort.

/

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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 12:15:59pm

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

P.S. I got the ULTRA because that’s how I roll, either not at all or balls out, never in between.

Can I see? (Sweet, innocent smile)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 12:16:20pm

re: #57 goddamnedfrank

Instant Pot Ultra 6 qt. On sale right now for $109.99

You can get additional inner-pots for $30, and a glass lid to cover them in the fridge for $15.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:16:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:17:20pm
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:17:24pm

re: #70 gocart mozart

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And Hannity mocked Obama for mustard on a burger? At least Obama can talk about eating without sounding like a cyborg.

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Mike Lamb  May 4, 2018 • 12:17:36pm

The part Rudy left out was that before discussing the payment, Trump nudged Rudy and said, “Let’s start this meeting with a prayer”.

Rudy is also clearly lying—we all know Trump is a “Gee willikers” kind of guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:17:48pm
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:17:59pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuck you. And also what’s that have to with the NRA?

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:18:18pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Talk to your predecessor.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 12:18:25pm
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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 12:18:37pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Two outages at the moment. One has a crew on site, crew has been dispatched to the larger site.

SR+uFOVNPvMB8d5fHnd91YGqLmkExgZeRs3HRq8csaw4CBsdpHTCcF3whs5/pAPjYIxmSEWk0J1Q84G2EImJvCOYukE4Z1uiwsSenhb8cKAUm/jbeouAZS2jSSk/wTpYGf4o3qefQ+mqG0Ykcieqqb8rLQbVpTxkGVhY2hxjz8TKT7UREiH7BbMfpdaBaUUp1zkQpngoIqKjIS/Fy1uvRA==

And like that… Power had returned!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:18:54pm
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makeitstop  May 4, 2018 • 12:18:57pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump claims that he is the most obstructed president in history.

Barack Obama says hi, while muttering ‘fuck you asshole’ under his breath.

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Sir John Barron  May 4, 2018 • 12:19:36pm

re: #86 makeitstop

Barack Obama says hi, while muttering ‘fuck you asshole’ under his breath.

His party controls Congress and he still can’t catch a break.

//

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Dave In Austin  May 4, 2018 • 12:20:08pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

Talk to your predecessor.

Obama was better at being obstructed…. So…… Therefore………. I must…….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 12:20:43pm

re: #56 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I bought a 3D printer with the money saved from my tolerance break.

I use it to get semi-catatonic. It helps me settle down and enjoy TV and movies instead of multitasking, and improves my sleep.

I used to enjoy semi-catatonic, but not wracked with existential crises

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:20:52pm

yikes

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Eventual Carrion  May 4, 2018 • 12:21:06pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

I finally caved and joined the Cult of Instant Pot.

Wife got one for Christmas from her sisters and mother. She hasn’t tried anything in it yet. She just goes to her old standard crock pots still.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 12:21:09pm
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:21:44pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yikes

Goddamn just shut the fuck up.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 12:22:38pm

re: #91 Eventual Carrion

Wife got one for Christmas from her sisters and mother. She hasn’t tried anything in it yet. She just goes to her old standard crock pots still.

My crock pots collect dust now. Why cook for 8 hours, when you can get the same results in 45 minutes?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:22:38pm
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Mike Lamb  May 4, 2018 • 12:23:06pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yikes

Doubled his poll numbers—he’s up to 6.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:23:14pm

uh…

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Mike Lamb  May 4, 2018 • 12:23:41pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yikes

So let me understand…you’re the president. Are the Second Amendment rights under siege or not?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:24:02pm
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Sir John Barron  May 4, 2018 • 12:25:02pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh…

Damn appeaser weak America-hating Obama meeting with our enemies…oh wait. WOW, such leadership!!!! MAGA!!!!

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 12:25:19pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder if he’s every hear of Marjory Stoneman-Douglas High School. I think some young adults are about to remind him of that.

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Mike Lamb  May 4, 2018 • 12:25:23pm

re: #94 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

My crock pots collect dust now. Why cook for 8 hours, when you can get the same results in 45 minutes?

+1. I can’t think of any reason to ever use a crock pot again. I also love sauteeing in the Instant Pot. With the high walls, it reduces splatter.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:25:35pm

He talks out of his ass so much. Your rights are under siege blah blah but they won’t be with me. This guy is such a disgrace.

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Sir John Barron  May 4, 2018 • 12:25:52pm

re: #98 Mike Lamb

So let me understand…you’re the president. Are the Second Amendment rights under siege or not?

“Under siege, not under siege. No siege. You’re the siege.”

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 12:26:01pm

Also, someone should ask where the guns are at the convention.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:26:10pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 4, 2018 • 12:26:14pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yikes

“doubled my African-American poll numbers”—so now there are two?

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:27:07pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fucking idiot.

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Dave In Austin  May 4, 2018 • 12:27:37pm

At first I thought I could get away with turning the sound off. Na….. Can’t stand the sight of the bastard.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:27:38pm

re: #107 Barefoot Grin

“doubled my African-American poll numbers”—so now there are two?

Yeah Diamond, Silk, Carson, now Kanye and his crew.

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Mike Lamb  May 4, 2018 • 12:27:42pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You reported wrong when you quoted my tweets verbatim!

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:28:02pm

re: #109 Dave In Austin

At first I thought I could get away with turning the sound off. Na….. Can’t stand the sight of the bastard.

I can’t look at him for long.

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Sir John Barron  May 4, 2018 • 12:28:27pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump says he would “love” to speak to Mueller, “but I have to find that we are going to be treated fairly. Right now it’s a pure witch hunt. Why aren’t we having Republicans looking also? Why aren’t we having Republican people doing what these Democrats are doing? It’s unfair.” pic.twitter.com

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 4, 2018

“I would love to fight the top MMA guy, but I have to find out if I’ll be treated fairly.”

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bratwurst  May 4, 2018 • 12:29:01pm

If there were such a huge problem with illegal aliens murdering people, it seems like we could hear about more than one victim over and over, no?

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Barefoot Grin  May 4, 2018 • 12:29:04pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

I can’t look at him for long.

sphincter mouth

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Sir John Barron  May 4, 2018 • 12:29:08pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why aren’t we having Republicans looking also?

Looking for what? What was the Nunes Commission or whatever committee that was?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 12:29:32pm
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Eventual Carrion  May 4, 2018 • 12:29:32pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Nobody knows as much about construction as I do.”

I bet he would start a roof shingle job from the top and work his way down the slope.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:29:49pm

meanwhile in Kentucky:

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petesh  May 4, 2018 • 12:30:38pm

re: #51 makeitstop

OT: Never saw this before today, but they stunned me with how well they did it.

Green Day covers the Rolling Stones.

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Very nice. But they look like they’re trying. Compare this version. See especially Mick Taylor who looks bored and Keith Richards who looks like he’s trying to stay awake, all while … it rocketh in the manner of an Oedipus:

The Rolling Stones - Rip This Joint (Live) - OFFICIAL

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Sir John Barron  May 4, 2018 • 12:31:26pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Yeah Diamond, Silk, Carson, now Kanye and his crew.

I wonder why those are the AA’s he always mentions and not other, more upstanding AA’s.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:32:29pm
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:32:30pm

re: #114 bratwurst

If there were such a huge problem with illegal aliens murdering people, it seems like we could hear about more than one victim over and over, no?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2018 • 12:33:27pm

re: #121 Sir John Barron

I wonder why those are the AA’s he always mentions and not other, more upstanding AA’s.

/

Yeah he never mentions Larry Elder, Armstrong Williams, Star Parker and especially Michael Steele. Gosh, I wonder why…

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:34:13pm

Is this a NRA rally or a GOP rally? Oh wait.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:34:31pm

heh

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Sir John Barron  May 4, 2018 • 12:34:55pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

“NRA Member: What is the ‘sanctity of life’? Sounds hideous.”

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Scottish Dragon  May 4, 2018 • 12:35:19pm

re: #33 makeitstop

You apologize to swamp monsters this very minute, young man.

Devin “Swampy” Nunes attacking one of the prosecutors from Mueller’s office…

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Sir John Barron  May 4, 2018 • 12:35:38pm

re: #124 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yeah he never mentions Larry Elder, Armstrong Williams, Star Parker and especially Michael Steele. Gosh, I wonder why…

Is Larry Elder not on Team MAGA? Assumed he would be.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:35:39pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 12:36:09pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2018 • 12:36:47pm

12:35 here in Los Angeles and it’s 86. Yesterday it didn’t get over 65…

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Unshaken Defiance  May 4, 2018 • 12:36:48pm

re: #49 BigPapa

Would the be the ULTRA Instant Pot or the Instant ULTRA Pot or Instant Pot ULTRA?

Hm, not at all confusing in with the convo on smoking pot again. 🤣

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Sir John Barron  May 4, 2018 • 12:37:01pm

re: #131 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

NRA Member: ‘Sanctity of Life’? Does that mean I can’t kill half the people here?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:37:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:37:49pm
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:38:31pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Says the man speaking from a gun free zone.

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Sir John Barron  May 4, 2018 • 12:38:33pm

re: #132 Joe Bacon 🌹

12:35 here in Los Angeles and it’s 86. Yesterday it didn’t get over 65…

Hotter than blue blazes here in Baltimore. I was wearing my Winter coat just last week it seems.

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Sir John Barron  May 4, 2018 • 12:39:17pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

The NRA members need a Safe Space.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:39:36pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Waaaah. Glad Walsh still reminds us he’s a douchebag. Anyhow that’s his right as it is Ellen’s.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 4, 2018 • 12:40:32pm

Well fuck.

The power went out here due to the high winds we are experiencing in this area. I am so glad that I made the pie because it would just suck if the power cut while it was in the oven.

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 12:40:32pm

re: #65 BigPapa

What if you cooked edibles in an Instant Pot?

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isnt that, like, its job?

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 12:43:33pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

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see that chyron?

remember when trump was gonna do something about guns ‘n bump stocks ‘n background checks ‘n ammo ‘n…….

less than a year ago

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BeachDem  May 4, 2018 • 12:43:52pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

Guys, Danny DeVito for Rudy on SNL, this week. Please!

Jeffrey Tambor.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 12:44:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:44:22pm

re: #141 The Vicious Babushka

Well fuck.

The power went out here due to the high winds we are experiencing in this area. I am so glad that I made the pie because it would just suck if the power cut while it was in the oven.

160,000 DTE Energy customers without power as of 2:30 p.m. and more outages expected.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:44:46pm

re: #144 BeachDem

Jeffrey Tambor.

Yeah I can see that.

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makeitstop  May 4, 2018 • 12:44:58pm

re: #120 petesh

Very nice. But they look like they’re trying. Compare this version. See especially Mick Taylor who looks bored and Keith Richards who looks like he’s trying to stay awake, all while … it rocketh in the manner of an Oedipus:

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Oh, no doubt. No one can touch the original.

I was just pretty surprised that GD even got into the same neighborhood.

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 12:45:40pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump claims that he is the most obstructed president in history.

can we just keep “merrick garland” on speed dial

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:45:40pm

re: #145 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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That’s their right of course but these are the same folks that belittled people over Chik a Fila.

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Mike Lamb  May 4, 2018 • 12:45:54pm

re: #132 Joe Bacon 🌹

12:35 here in Los Angeles and it’s 86. Yesterday it didn’t get over 65…

Feh…high 30’s/low 40’s most of yesterday in Denver with snow in the morning—68ish today.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 12:46:42pm

re: #144 BeachDem

Jeffrey Tambor.

I think he’s persona non grata.

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 12:47:22pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump, after @NRA contributed $30M to his campaign: “You came through for me, and I’m going to come through for you.”

Trump’s presence at this year’s #NRAConvention, and his near instantaneous abandonment of his call for gun control, is further proof he’s beholden to NRA money the NRA bribed him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:47:58pm
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freetoken  May 4, 2018 • 12:47:59pm

re: #132 Joe Bacon 🌹

12:35 here in Los Angeles and it’s 86. Yesterday it didn’t get over 65…

Warm here too and it’s going to go on.

And we got almost no rain in the last “storm”.

Alas, the rest of the loquats may die this year if nobody waters them.

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BeachDem  May 4, 2018 • 12:48:11pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

I finally caved and joined the Cult of Instant Pot.

Mine has progressed from sitting in a box in my office for 4 months to sitting on my counter, but thus far, no food has passed into its depths.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 4, 2018 • 12:48:12pm

My totally irresponsible speculation for the day:
McConnell is a racist dick, but is it possible that one reason for his reluctance to stand up against Trump is that the GOP emails in Putin’s possession show that Cocaine Mitch’s in-laws actually were involved in the cocaine trafficking?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2018 • 12:48:51pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

Guys, Danny DeVito for Rudy on SNL, this week. Please!

C’mon SNL! Go all the way just like Rudy did!

Get RuPaul with the same dress and wig Rudy wore!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 12:49:11pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why does Joe Walsh say stupid shit on Twitter, only to be told he’s a blockhead by hundreds of people?

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nines09  May 4, 2018 • 12:50:11pm

Peeking down the alleys and backyards of ‘Merca. Yeah. I’ll reach out. You bet. Uh huh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:52:11pm

sounds like a plan…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:53:00pm
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gwangung  May 4, 2018 • 12:53:18pm

re: #159 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Why does Joe Walsh say stupid shit on Twitter, only to be told he’s a blockhead by hundreds of people?

Persecution points?

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TedStriker  May 4, 2018 • 12:53:25pm

re: #144 BeachDem

Jeffrey Tambor.

Probably not a good idea, though he’d be really good; Tambor got MeToo’ed himself, of sorts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 12:54:06pm
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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 12:55:10pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

That’s their right of course but these are the same folks that belittled people over Chik a Fila.

bingo

im assuming no one has said they cant eat there because of their gun lifestyle choices

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petesh  May 4, 2018 • 12:55:14pm

re: #148 makeitstop

Oh, no doubt. No one can touch the original.

I was just pretty surprised that GD even got into the same neighborhood.

Yeah, they did. That the Stones can look bored and intense at the same time is part of why they are uniquely brilliant. And they can still put on a show. Fingers crossed for the much-trailed album they’ve been intermittently trying to work on for years. I’m guessing it’ll be out for Christmas … but I’m not sure which Christmas.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2018 • 12:55:29pm

re: #159 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Why does Joe Walsh say stupid shit on Twitter, only to be told he’s a blockhead by hundreds of people?

That little snowflake blocks everyone who hurts him.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 4, 2018 • 12:56:00pm

re: #159 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

At this point, isn’t it his job to perform reactionary dickheadness?

I mean literally his job.

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 12:57:07pm

re: #151 Mike Lamb

Feh…high 30’s/low 40’s most of yesterday in Denver with snow in the morning—68ish today.

wait WHAT?
we’re going back to denver next week for mrs dm’s surgery
its still in the effing 40’s?????!?!?!?!?

It is Springtime. This is May

I am NOT pulling out winter running clothes again
(ok I will. im a cold pansy)

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 12:57:17pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

sounds like a plan…

The ending of Wolf Mother pulled some heart strings.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 12:57:49pm

re: #169 The Ghost of a Flea

At this point, isn’t it his job to perform reactionary dickheadness?

I mean literally his job.

He sometimes slips up and acts like a reasonable adult.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 12:58:15pm

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Mike Lamb  May 4, 2018 • 12:58:27pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Happy ending?

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gocart mozart  May 4, 2018 • 1:00:12pm
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BeachDem  May 4, 2018 • 1:00:27pm

re: #124 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yeah he never mentions Larry Elder, Armstrong Williams, Star Parker and especially Michael Steele. Gosh, I wonder why…

And then there’s Sheriff Bling—can’t forget him.

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Mike Lamb  May 4, 2018 • 1:01:29pm

re: #170 dangerman

wait WHAT?
we’re going back to denver next week for mrs dm’s surgery
its still in the effing 40’s?????!?!?!?!?

It is Springtime. This is May

I am NOT pulling out winter running clothes again
(ok I will. im a cold pansy)

Spring in CO is a wild thing man. You’ll be relieved to know that according to the 10 day, the lowest temp to expect is 66.

And suck it up buttercup…anything above 40 is a t-shirt and shorts, the running gloves. That’s coming from someone with Raynaud’s Syndrome.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 4, 2018 • 1:01:55pm

If you want an actual measure of the imbalance of bias and bad faith on the right versus the left, look at the money flow.

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gocart mozart  May 4, 2018 • 1:02:04pm
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gocart mozart  May 4, 2018 • 1:03:17pm

Retweet this chart to anyone touting Trump’s economy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 1:05:24pm

“You said my 2nd Amendment rights are under siege, but you said that they’d never be under siege when you’re President and you’re President so my rights should never be under siege but you said my 2nd Amendment rights are under siege, but you said that they’d never be under siege when you’re President and you’re President so my rights should never be under siege but you said…. Illogical! Illogical! Please explain! Only Trump can explain Trump’s speaking….”

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Stanley Sea  May 4, 2018 • 1:07:05pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just another free trip for the wives.

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freetoken  May 4, 2018 • 1:07:56pm

Will I seriously jump Godwin’s shark if I suggest that Trump wants to turn the NRA into his SA?

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Hecuba's daughter  May 4, 2018 • 1:08:59pm

re: #181 Blind Frog Belly White

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“You said my 2nd Amendment rights are under siege, but you said that they’d never be under siege when you’re President and you’re President so my rights should never be under siege but you said my 2nd Amendment rights are under siege, but you said that they’d never be under siege when you’re President and you’re President so my rights should never be under siege but you said…. Illogical! Illogical! Please explain! Only Trump can explain Trump’s speaking….”

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That’s how Herr Trump could become President-for-Life. I wouldn’t count on the 22nd Amendment when his team manufactures a crisis to take over the government “temporarily”.

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BeachDem  May 4, 2018 • 1:09:03pm

re: #152 JordanRules

I think he’s persona non grata.

Ah, I forgot about that.

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freetoken  May 4, 2018 • 1:09:10pm

Had to edit the grammar on that one. Often I mixe perfect tense with everything else.

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 1:11:14pm

re: #181 Blind Frog Belly White

“You said my 2nd Amendment rights are under siege, but you said that they’d never be under siege when you’re President and you’re President so my rights should never be under siege but you said my 2nd Amendment rights are under siege, but you said that they’d never be under siege when you’re President and you’re President so my rights should never be under siege but you said…. Illogical! Illogical! Please explain! Only Trump can explain Trump’s speaking….”

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That’s why is followers don’t question him. They can’t afford to lose their one brain cell.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 1:12:36pm

re: #173 Blind Frog Belly White

Apropos of which….

Here’s a postwalk pic from the other day. Tired but happy.

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freetoken  May 4, 2018 • 1:13:17pm

re: #188 Blind Frog Belly White

That rug is pretty good camouflage for that dog.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:13:52pm

re: #183 freetoken

Will I seriously jump Godwin’s shark if I suggest that Trump wants to turn the NRA into his SA?

Or the NRA wants to be his SA.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:14:19pm

re: #185 BeachDem

Ah, I forgot about that.

I had too. I love the RuPaul suggestion.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 1:15:03pm

re: #189 freetoken

That rug is pretty good camouflage for that dog.

ANYTHING is good camouflage for him. He is harder to see in low light outside than a black dog would be!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 1:17:11pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

That’s their right of course but these are the same folks that belittled people over Chik a Fila.

I boycott Chick fil A because of their food. I could have bland chicken from awful people, or I could go next door to Popeye’s.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:23:31pm

re: #193 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I boycott Chick fil A because of their food. I could have bland chicken from awful people, or I could go next door to Popeye’s.

I always thought they were overrated tbh.

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Single-handed sailor  May 4, 2018 • 1:23:45pm
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Jack Burton  May 4, 2018 • 1:25:51pm

re: #195 Single-handed sailor

“Today is Friday. That means we all need to ask again: Why is Jared Kushner still a Senior White House Advisor not in prison?”

Fixed that for Ted.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:26:18pm

re: #195 Single-handed sailor

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We all know the answer why. But we won’t ever get the WH to admit it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 1:26:19pm

re: #194 HappyWarrior

I always thought they were overrated tbh.

That’s how it goes with regional items. They get talked up, then when they come to your region, it’s just a disappointment. It was the same with Coors beer.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 1:27:17pm
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Jack Burton  May 4, 2018 • 1:27:51pm

re: #198 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s how it goes with regional items. They get talked up, then when they come to your region, it’s just a disappointment. It was the same with Coors beer.

Anyone who talked up Coors to places that didn’t have it is either the king of trolling or belongs in a “home”.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 1:30:17pm

re: #200 Jack Burton

Anyone who talked up Coors to places that didn’t have it is either the king of trolling or belongs in a “home”.

It worked though. Unfortunately once people got to try it, they realized they could water down any beer to make something like Coors.

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KGxvi  May 4, 2018 • 1:31:00pm

re: #198 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s how it goes with regional items. They get talked up, then when they come to your region, it’s just a disappointment. It was the same with Coors beer.

The only time I can think of when it wasn’t a disappointment was Krispy Kreme. Dunkin Donuts is just meh.

And don’t get me started on In-n-Out

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 1:31:04pm
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:31:13pm

re: #198 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s how it goes with regional items. They get talked up, then when they come to your region, it’s just a disappointment. It was the same with Coors beer.

I’m going to get hell from the West coasters but I felt that way about In and Out. Don’t get me wrong. It’s not bad but it’s okay not great.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 1:31:47pm

re: #201 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It worked though. Unfortunately once people got to try it, they realized they could water down any beer to make something like Coors.

Coors wasn’t joking when it said the secret was the water…

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:31:59pm

re: #202 KGxvi

The only time I can think of when it wasn’t a disappointment was Krispy Kreme. Dunkin Donuts is just meh.

And don’t get me started on In-n-Out

Haha great minds.

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KGxvi  May 4, 2018 • 1:32:04pm

re: #204 HappyWarrior

I’m going to get hell from the West coasters but I felt that way about In and Out. Don’t get me wrong. It’s not bad but it’s okay not great.

Nope, In-n-Out is weak AF.

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The Major  May 4, 2018 • 1:32:42pm

re: #40 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

About time. People were starting to gossip about your lack of an Instant Pot.

I don’t have an Instant Pot.

OTOH, I have this most excellent piece of kitchen kit even to come out from Panasonic - NU-HX100S Counter-top Induction Oven

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 1:32:53pm

re: #194 HappyWarrior

I always thought they were overrated tbh.

I like their nuggets, wraps, chicken soup, and Polynesian sauce. They’re not any worse than McDonalds, Jack in the Box, Popeye’s Chicken Express, or any one of the other 20+ fast food places in my town. They’re just something I want occasionally.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 1:33:01pm

re: #202 KGxvi

The only time I can think of when it wasn’t a disappointment was Krispy Kreme. Dunkin Donuts is just meh.

And don’t get me started on In-n-Out

Krispy Kreme turned out to be made of air, and went out of business in my area once the novelty wore off.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 4, 2018 • 1:34:11pm

And through all of this, fully 35% fully support Trump with another 30% or so swinging on the fence on a monthly basis. This includes about 55% of white women and over 75% of white men.

As a country, we have a long term mental health crises based on tribal fears and perceived loss of control. Trump and his grimy, corrupt cohorts are the symptoms. The disease goes much further down deep.

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 1:34:14pm

re: #202 KGxvi

The only time I can think of when it wasn’t a disappointment was Krispy Kreme. Dunkin Donuts is just meh.

And don’t get me started on In-n-Out

In-n-Out is good when I want salad on a bun, which is occasionally. Five Guys is what I want when I want the burger to slide apart if I don’t hold onto it just right.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:34:17pm

re: #207 KGxvi

Nope, In-n-Out is weak AF.

Best burger I ever had was near a Laguna reservation in NM. Unfortunately my buddy no longer lives that way.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 1:34:26pm

re: #208 The Major

I don’t have an Instant Pot.

OTOH, I have this most excellent piece of kitchen kit even to come out from Panasonic - NU-HX100S Counter-top Induction Oven

I almost picked one up the last time you mentioned it. I also have my eye on an IR toaster oven that was recommended when I went to the Amazon page for the oven you got.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:34:52pm

re: #209 Belafon

I like their nuggets, wraps, chicken soup, and Polynesian sauce. Their not any worse than McDonalds, Jack in the Box, Popeye’s Chicken Express, or any one of the other 20+ fast food places in my town. They’re just something I want occasionally.

Right. It’s adequate but not worth the lines.

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freetoken  May 4, 2018 • 1:34:55pm

re: #207 KGxvi

All this fast-food burger joint talk… I used to visit various “Alberto’s”, “Adelberto’s” and “Roberto’s” - for those who don’t know San Diego, those are common name for Mexican fast-food take out places - to see if they were all alike.

Anyway, there used to be some very good places to get decent burritos on the cheap. Alas, those days are gone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 1:35:38pm

re: #216 freetoken

All this fast-food burger joint talk… I used to visit various “Alberto’s”, “Adelberto’s” and “Roberto’s” - for those who don’t know San Diego, those are common name for Mexican fast-food take out places - to see if they were all alike.

Anyway, there used to be some very good places to get decent burritos on the cheap. Alas, those days are gone.

As are the days of Pedro Wong’s Mexican and Chinese food in Payson, Arizona…

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 1:35:39pm

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Right. It’s adequate but not worth the lines.

The one in our town is so crowded that no one goes there any more.

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freetoken  May 4, 2018 • 1:35:48pm

It’s been about 20 years since I last went to TJ. Used to buy tacos off the street vendors. Mostly ok.

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 1:36:20pm

And I love Whataburger, but I can’t eat it all the time.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:36:26pm

re: #218 Belafon

The one in our town is so crowded that no one goes there any more.

Haha a Yogism but yes same. We went there more when they first opened.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 1:36:28pm

re: #216 freetoken

All this fast-food burger joint talk… I used to visit various “Alberto’s”, “Adelberto’s” and “Roberto’s” - for those who don’t know San Diego, those are common name for Mexican fast-food take out places - to see if they were all alike.

Anyway, there used to be some very good places to get decent burritos on the cheap. Alas, those days are gone.

we coulda had burrito trucks on every freaking corner…

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:37:24pm

I stopped going to Taco Bell at work once a mom and pop place opened up. Closer, better food, & the staff are such nice people.

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freetoken  May 4, 2018 • 1:37:25pm

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are still many “…berto’s” around the metropolitan area, but it seems to me the prices have doubled over 20 years and the quality has gone down.

Maybe I’m just getting old.

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Jack Burton  May 4, 2018 • 1:37:43pm

re: #216 freetoken

All this fast-food burger joint talk… I used to visit various “Alberto’s”, “Adelberto’s” and “Roberto’s” - for those who don’t know San Diego, those are common name for Mexican fast-food take out places - to see if they were all alike.

Anyway, there used to be some very good places to get decent burritos on the cheap. Alas, those days are gone.

I started referring to all the *-bertoses as “Todobertos”. There are still cheap/decent places around, you just have to look harder than you did in the 80s and 90s.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 4, 2018 • 1:38:08pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 1:38:40pm

re: #223 HappyWarrior

I stopped going to Taco Bell at work once a mom and pop place opened up. Closer, better food, & the staff are such nice people.

Taco Bueno is my fast food Mexican restaurant.

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freetoken  May 4, 2018 • 1:39:42pm

re: #226 Unshaken Defiance

Yes, reasonable is out of question.

The NRA is now taken over by extremists.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:41:51pm

re: #226 Unshaken Defiance

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Thanks dude.

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KGxvi  May 4, 2018 • 1:42:06pm

re: #216 freetoken

All this fast-food burger joint talk… I used to visit various “Alberto’s”, “Adelberto’s” and “Roberto’s” - for those who don’t know San Diego, those are common name for Mexican fast-food take out places - to see if they were all alike.

Anyway, there used to be some very good places to get decent burritos on the cheap. Alas, those days are gone.

We still have Alberto’s and related places up here. But I haven’t been to one in a while. There’s also a chain up here called King Taco that’s got street style tacos among other things that’s pretty good.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:42:18pm

re: #227 Belafon

Taco Bueno is my fast food Mexican restaurant.

They must be local.

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KGxvi  May 4, 2018 • 1:43:50pm

re: #210 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Krispy Kreme turned out to be made of air, and went out of business in my area once the novelty wore off.

They expanded like crazy out here, too fast for sure, but there are still two left, one in Orange and one in Long Beach. I still prefer the multiple independent donut shops we have in the greater LA area, but every once in a while…

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Jack Burton  May 4, 2018 • 1:43:54pm

re: #207 KGxvi

Nope, In-n-Out is weak AF.

I think the hype over In-n-Out was misinterpreted by everywhere not-California. They don’t have “good” burgers. You can’t get “good” burgers at a fast food restaurant. Ever. No matter what anyone says.

But for fast food they are considered by many to be on the better side of the spectrum. As far as I know, nothing there is ever frozen. I’d take them over McDonalds, Jack in the Box, Burger King, Wendys, Carl’s Jr, etc. any day of the week, but I’m not going to pretend like it’s a good burger or drive out of my way to get it.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 1:44:26pm

re: #225 Jack Burton

I started referring to all the *-bertoses as “Todobertos”. There are still cheap/decent places around, you just have to look harder than you did in the 80s and 90s.

Yup. Here in Phoenix we’ll refer to them as the Bertoses too. And most of them were great any time of day or night in the 90’s. Now, it’s very dicey and I usually only partake after midnight if I know it’s a good one.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 4, 2018 • 1:44:27pm

Remember Jade Helm and this trash?


Hang your heads in shame, traitors.
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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 1:44:41pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

They must be local.

One of the good things to come out of Abilene. They’re slowly spreading - There’s a few in the Kansas City area now. They’re better tasting than Taco Bell.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:45:35pm

re: #236 Belafon

One of the good things to come out of Abilene. They’re slowly spreading - There’s a few in the Kansas City area now. They’re better tasting than Taco Bell.

Long way to go.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 1:45:49pm

re: #220 Belafon

And I love Whataburger, but I can’t eat it all the time.

My favorite fast food burger.

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Bubblehead II  May 4, 2018 • 1:46:12pm

re: #212 Belafon

In-n-Out is good when I want salad on a bun, which is occasionally. Five Guys is what I want when I want the burger to slide apart if I don’t hold onto it just right.

Love Five Guys. They serve the sloppiest burgers in town. Their fries are also pretty damn good as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 1:46:20pm

re: #235 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Remember Jade Helm and this trash?

Hang your heads in shame, traitors.

I could not get over the jade Helm mania, but the fact that Russia was laughing up its sleeve as it watched these conspiracy theories grow and snowball until the governor himself sent out National Guard to “observe” really showed how easily manipulated we were.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 1:46:34pm

re: #233 Jack Burton

I think the hype over In-n-Out was misinterpreted by everywhere not-California. They don’t have “good” burgers. You can’t get “good” burgers at a fast food restaurant. Ever. No matter what anyone says.

But for fast food they are considered by many to be on the better side of the spectrum. As far as I know, nothing there is ever frozen. I’d take them over McDonalds, Jack in the Box, Burger King, Wendys, Carl’s Jr, etc. any day of the week, but I’m not going to pretend like it’s a good burger or drive out of my way to get it.

You can’t get good burgers at a California fast-food restaurant. I can get good burgers locally at 5-guys, Meatheads, Portillos, and Buona Beef.

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 1:46:54pm

re: #238 JordanRules

My favorite fast food burger.

I have tiers for fast food. If you put Taco Bell and McDonald’s on the same level, then Whataburger and Taco Bueno are the next tier up.

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KGxvi  May 4, 2018 • 1:47:28pm

re: #233 Jack Burton

I think the hype over In-n-Out was misinterpreted by everywhere not-California. They don’t have “good” burgers. You can’t get “good” burgers at a fast food restaurant. Ever. No matter what anyone says.

But for fast food they are considered by many to be on the better side of the spectrum. As far as I know, nothing there is ever frozen. I’d take them over McDonalds, Jack in the Box, Burger King, Wendys, Carl’s Jr, etc. any day of the week, but I’m not going to pretend like it’s a good burger or drive out of my way to get it.

If I’m going to do a fast food burger (I typically don’t anymore), I’d go with Tommy’s, for a chili burger. But that’s a whole other conversation.

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Cheechako  May 4, 2018 • 1:48:10pm

I just feel left out. In my city of 30,000+ we have one, that’s ONE, drive thru burger joint. McDonalds. Mornings, noon, and night the drive thru line is packed. I’ve been told that our McDonalds is one of the highest grossing franchises in the country.

We also have a Papa Johns, Papa Murphy, 2 Domino’s, and a Subway. Other choices include a couple of Chinese and Filipino restaurants. Now that the cruise ships have stared arriving there’s a couple of seasonal taco trucks located near the cruise ship docks.

Not many choices for fast food take-out.

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KGxvi  May 4, 2018 • 1:48:16pm

re: #241 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You can’t get good burgers at a California fast-food restaurant. I can get good burgers locally at 5-guys, Meatheads, Portillos, and Buona Beef.

We’ve got a couple of Five Guys out here, and the Habit isn’t terrible, either

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The Major  May 4, 2018 • 1:48:46pm

re: #214 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

This beast cooks frozen burger patties to perfection - after a pre-heat, 7:30 (flip after 2 minutes) and you got burgers with nice char-lines to ‘em.

This also does frozen pizza nice, too. Hell, my brother was cooking full steaks in this thing and they were excellent.

Amazon used to sell them directly, but now your best bet is to buy it directly from Panasonic.

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 1:49:00pm

And just so all of you know, every restaurant I have described is located in Rockwall, including both In-n-Out and Five Guys. And we haven’t even finished the fast food places. We also have Culvers, and up until about 5 years ago, we had the only on in the Metroplex.

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Jack Burton  May 4, 2018 • 1:49:33pm

re: #241 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You can’t get good burgers at a California fast-food restaurant. I can get good burgers locally at 5-guys, Meatheads, Portillos, and Buona Beef.

They have Five Guys here, and it’s neither fast food nor good. None of those trendy *way* overpriced burger for hipster places like Five Guys or Smash burger are. Outside of California experience may vary , I can’t say, but that’s what it is here.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 1:49:54pm

re: #241 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You can’t get good burgers at a California fast-food restaurant. I can get good burgers locally at 5-guys, Meatheads, Portillos, and Buona Beef.

In the hood in Cali you definitely can. Had one of the best burgers ever at this little fast food shack. But maybe you meant only the big chains.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 1:50:20pm

re: #239 Bubblehead II

Love Five Guys. They serve the sloppiest burgers in town. Their fries are also pretty damn good as well.

This is the correct opinion.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 4, 2018 • 1:52:17pm

Here’s some amazing news. No, not about Bernie, everyone knows his 15 minutes were up a long time ago, but that AOL still exists! It’s like finding a live dodo bird on my farm.

A new 2020 primary poll has some really bad news for Bernie Sanders

A fresh 2020 Democratic presidential primary poll released Wednesday shows Sen. Bernie Sanders in a distant third place among a large pack of potential Democratic nominees — a troubling sign for the Vermont independent, who is mulling whether to make another run for the White House.

A Suffolk University poll of New Hampshire Democratic primary voters found Sanders trailing Sen. Elizabeth Warren and former Vice President Joe Biden in the New Hampshire Democratic primary. In the poll, Warren leads the pack with 26 percent, followed by Biden with 20 percent and Sanders a distant third with just 13 percent.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 1:52:23pm

re: #248 Jack Burton

They have Five Guys here, and it’s neither fast food nor good. None of those trendy *way* overpriced burger for hipster places like Five Guys or Smash burger are. Outside of California experience may vary , I can’t say, but that’s what it is here.

Five Guys and Smash don’t cater to hipsters at all in Arizona (we have them on the south side and we dont even have a Jimmy Johns LOL) and they are fast casuals. The amount of time is the same as all the traditional fast food joints in all my experiences.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 4, 2018 • 1:52:35pm

The thing that bugs me about Five Guys is that the testimonials on the walls are getting further into the past (2009, 2010 2012)

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 1:53:58pm

re: #251 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Here’s some amazing news. No, not about Bernie, everyone knows his 15 minutes were up a long time ago, but that AOL still exists! It’s like finding a live dodo bird on my farm.

A new 2020 primary poll has some really bad news for Bernie Sanders

I hope no one has posted that at Daily Kos by the time I get home, unless someone here does. There are a few people that need to see this.

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Jack Burton  May 4, 2018 • 1:53:59pm

re: #252 JordanRules

Five Guys and Smash don’t cater to hipsters at all in Arizona (we have them on the south side and we dont even have a Jimmy Johns LOL) and they are fast casuals. The amount of time is the same as all the traditional fast food joints in all my experiences.

OK, but does it cost $12 for a burger there? It does here.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:54:09pm

re: #248 Jack Burton

They have Five Guys here, and it’s neither fast food nor good. None of those trendy *way* overpriced burger for hipster places like Five Guys or Smash burger are. Outside of California experience may vary , I can’t say, but that’s what it is here.

Heh Five Guys isn’t hipster.

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KGxvi  May 4, 2018 • 1:55:10pm

re: #251 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Here’s some amazing news. No, not about Bernie, everyone knows his 15 minutes were up a long time ago, but that AOL still exists! It’s like finding a live dodo bird on my farm.

A new 2020 primary poll has some really bad news for Bernie Sanders

I’m with the 39% that are with someone else.

Also, I still have an AOL email that I use for anything I think is going to send me a bunch of shitty email. I check it maybe once or twice a year.

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makeitstop  May 4, 2018 • 1:55:50pm

Smashburger rules.

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Skip Intro  May 4, 2018 • 1:56:32pm

Did Dennis Miller ever come up with any jokes last Wednesday? I seem to have missed them.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 1:56:38pm

re: #251 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Here’s some amazing news. No, not about Bernie, everyone knows his 15 minutes were up a long time ago, but that AOL still exists! It’s like finding a live dodo bird on my farm.

A new 2020 primary poll has some really bad news for Bernie Sanders

He’s going to falter in 2020 because what gave him so much appeal in 2016 isn’t going to be there. And more opponents means more exposing of his bs.

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makeitstop  May 4, 2018 • 1:56:51pm

In other news, the Mets have designated Matt Harvey for reassignment.

Probably the last New York will see of him in a Mets uniform.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 1:56:56pm

re: #255 Jack Burton

OK, but does it cost $12 for a burger there? It does here.

Nope, just a bit more than a Wendy’s premium burger I’d say.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 1:57:44pm

Local burger joints > Five Guys > In-N-Out >Jack in the Box > Wendy’s > McDonalds.

Krispy Kreme > Dunkin’ Donuts.

Local taquerias >>> any chain Mexican

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 1:59:06pm

re: #177 Mike Lamb

Spring in CO is a wild thing man. You’ll be relieved to know that according to the 10 day, the lowest temp to expect is 66.

And suck it up buttercup…anything above 40 is a t-shirt and shorts, the running gloves. That’s coming from someone with Raynaud’s Syndrome.

(it’s 86 here)

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 1:59:58pm

re: #180 gocart mozart

Retweet this chart to anyone touting Trump’s economy.

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im assuming “inherited” was deliberate

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 2:00:03pm

re: #246 The Major

This beast cooks frozen burger patties to perfection - after a pre-heat, 7:30 (flip after 2 minutes) and you got burgers with nice char-lines to ‘em.

This also does frozen pizza nice, too. Hell, my brother was cooking full steaks in this thing and they were excellent.

Amazon used to sell them directly, but now your best bet is to buy it directly from Panasonic.

I have a T-Fal electric grill for burgers. Preheat, put frozen burgers on the grill, and wait for the beeps. No flipping needed.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 2:00:18pm

Forecast says 107 here in Phoenix on Sunday.

Not ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Halp!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:00:21pm

As we say in my family, “There’s no accounting for taste, but there is Accounting For Dummies.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 2:02:07pm

re: #267 JordanRules

Forecast says 107 here in Phoenix on Sunday.

Not ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Halp!!

egad, they usually don’t break 100 until Memorial Day

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Bubblehead II  May 4, 2018 • 2:02:53pm

re: #255 Jack Burton

OK, but does it cost $12 for a burger there? It does here.

1x Bacon Cheeseburger $7.79
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Bacon, Mayo, Regular, Ketchup, Regular, Onion, Regular, Pickles, Regular, Grilled Mushrooms, Regular

SUB TOTAL
$7.79

TAX
$0.47

TOTAL
$8.26

Twin Falls, Id. store

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 2:03:06pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

They must be local.

I find it interesting that both Whataburger, and Taco Bueno, which are well loved here in Texas, aren’t trying to grow super fast. They have places throughout the country (they’ve both spread across the south and up toward the north east) but they haven’t pushed to get everywhere as fast as they can.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 2:03:37pm

re: #266 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I have a T-Fal electric grill for burgers. Preheat, put frozen burgers on the grill, and wait for the beeps. No flipping needed.

I have a psychological block that wont let me cook burgers from frozen. I’ve had them when others made them and they were just fine, but it’s just a weird thing I have. Must defrost, shape a bit and add seasonings if they are pre-formed.

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 2:03:48pm

re: #270 Bubblehead II

1x Bacon Cheeseburger $7.79
[ edit | remove ]
Bacon, Mayo, Regular, Ketchup, Regular, Onion, Regular, Pickles, Regular, Grilled Mushrooms, Regular

SUB TOTAL
$7.79

TAX
$0.47

TOTAL
$8.26

Twin Falls, Id. store

That’s the Rockwall price.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 2:04:18pm

re: #272 JordanRules

I have a psychological block that wont let me cook burgers from frozen. I’ve had them when others made them and they were just fine, but it’s just a weird thing I have. Must defrost, shape a bit and add seasonings if they are pre-formed.

I have never tried and cannot imagine that I ever will except out of necessity.

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 2:05:34pm

re: #226 Unshaken Defiance

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you know that for them “reasonable” is the first step on the slippery slope to confiscation

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BigPapa  May 4, 2018 • 2:05:37pm

I had a $22 burger in Honolulu a few years ago. It was pretty good. At the bar at Trump Tower Honolulu.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:06:19pm

re: #276 BigPapa

I had a $22 burger in Honolulu a few years ago. It was pretty good. At the bar at Trump Tower Honolulu.

“Isn’t that that Hay-waiian burger joint?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 2:06:20pm

re: #276 BigPapa

I had a $22 burger in Honolulu a few years ago. It was pretty good. At the bar at Trump Tower Honolulu.

and a five-dollar milkshake?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 2:06:23pm

since there is food talk:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 2:07:18pm

re: #274 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have never tried and cannot imagine that I ever will except out of necessity.

not even out of necessity, unless it was prepared from fresh ingredients and frozen here at home.

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 2:07:32pm

re: #220 Belafon

And I love Whataburger, but I can’t eat it all the time.

second best name after “smashburger”

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KGxvi  May 4, 2018 • 2:07:39pm

re: #260 HappyWarrior

He’s going to falter in 2020 because what gave him so much appeal in 2016 isn’t going to be there. And more opponents means more exposing of his bs.

The combination of Hillary Clinton* and a historically small field of candidates are probably the only reasons Sanders had any support.

*Say what you will but she lost the nomination in 2008 in mostly the same circumstances, mostly unknown/unproven candidates (and the swarmy John Edwards).

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 4, 2018 • 2:08:03pm

Perhaps I should say something positive about Lubbock.
They have a fantastic traditional, 100% authentic greasy burger joint called Pete’s Drive-in. In fact, there are several of them. They use the giant extra large buns, they cook on a solid grill, and they have a full menu of other old time favorites, like chicken fried steak and Frito pie. They do nothing to cater to yuppies or hipsters and the college crowd does not even know they exist. Having had cardiac issues, I could eat there only occasionally when I lived in Lubbock, but I go there every time I visit now.

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Belafon  May 4, 2018 • 2:08:09pm

If you want to open a burger place, find the neighborhood in your town that has the most Texans, and open a Whataburger. We were at the one in Rockwall the other day, and were talking to a couple while waiting for our food. Her husband was from Nashville, and she’d been there for the last 8 years. When they came into Texas for some softball thing for their daughter, she had to stop at a Whataburger.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 2:08:54pm

re: #282 KGxvi

The combination of Hillary Clinton* and a historically small field of candidates are probably the only reasons Sanders had any support.

*Say what you will but she lost the nomination in 2008 in mostly the same circumstances, mostly unknown/unproven candidates (and the swarmy John Edwards).

he lost the nomination because he did not have a mass of Russian bots and RNC ratfuckers shilling for him

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:09:21pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

since there is food talk:

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The Older Boy has been buying premarinaded “Carne Asada’ flap meat from work. He’s been slicing it then cooking it. The other day, I convinced him to cook it THEN slice it. SO much better!

BTW, what the everloving blue-eyed fuck is ‘flap meat’? It’s pretty good for something with such an appalling name! Still.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 2:10:09pm

Yep re: #282 KGxvi

The combination of Hillary Clinton* and a historically small field of candidates are probably the only reasons Sanders had any support.

*Say what you will but she lost the nomination in 2008 in mostly the same circumstances, mostly unknown/unproven candidates (and the swarmy John Edwards).

He and his supporters will never admit it but he got a lot of support from conservative Dems who hate HRC. I think 2020 will be when his mystique wears off. Other candidates will point out things that HRC didn’t or got ignored because Bernie was the scrappy underdog story. He’s not that anymore.

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Bubblehead II  May 4, 2018 • 2:10:12pm

WTF!!!!

Idaho school can’t find small bit of weapons-grade plutonium

The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission said in a statement Friday that the university can’t account for about a 30th of an ounce (1 gram) of the material that’s used in nuclear reactors and to make nuclear bombs.

kmvt.com

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 2:10:15pm

re: #258 makeitstop

Smashburger rules.

white castle on sunrise highway in lynbrook?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 2:10:21pm

In the Southwest they had Bun Huggers, where they do fresh meat on a mesquite grill to your order and then send you to the salad bar to dress it to your personal taste.,

That pretty much spoiled me for burgers anywhere else except at home from the BBQ grill.

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BigPapa  May 4, 2018 • 2:11:16pm

re: #278 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and a five-dollar milkshake?

Aw hell naw…. $18 glass of chardonnay.

My wife paid for it. She was trying to liquor me up for adult play time later.

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jeffreyw  May 4, 2018 • 2:11:25pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2018 • 2:11:27pm

re: #259 Skip Intro

Did Dennis Miller ever come up with any jokes last Wednesday? I seem to have missed them.

Frank Luntz’s focus groups are still testing them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:12:11pm

re: #282 KGxvi

The combination of Hillary Clinton* and a historically small field of candidates are probably the only reasons Sanders had any support.

*Say what you will but she lost the nomination in 2008 in mostly the same circumstances, mostly unknown/unproven candidates (and the swarmy John Edwards).

The thing people miss about Sanders is that he had fewer supporters, but they had white-hot intensity. That’s why he won caucuses and lost primaries. It’s why he’d have lost the General.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 2:12:17pm

re: #293 Joe Bacon 🌹

Frank Luntz’s focus groups are still testing them.

He chickened out heh. He had some lame excuse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 2:12:58pm

re: #292 jeffreyw

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yeppers…the real deal right there.

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The Major  May 4, 2018 • 2:13:03pm

re: #288 Bubblehead II

30th of an ounce (1 gram) of the material that’s used in nuclear reactors and to make nuclear bombs.

1 gram of fissile plutonium air deposited will cause quite a bit of damage.

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Patricia Kayden  May 4, 2018 • 2:13:10pm

Police stop Native American brothers during US college tour
bbc.com

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makeitstop  May 4, 2018 • 2:13:18pm

re: #289 dangerman

white castle on sunrise highway in lynbrook?

Mine was on Jericho Turnpike in Commack. :)

White Castle was definitely the best drunk food. After club gigs we’d either grab a bag of sliders or a bag of greasy tacos from Jack in the Box.

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BigPapa  May 4, 2018 • 2:13:34pm

What’s in the Pudding?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 2:14:02pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

since there is food talk:

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pretty sure there’s at least one lizard who proudly possesses one of those big green egg things.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 2:14:05pm

re: #294 Blind Frog Belly White

The thing people miss about Sanders is that he had fewer supporters, but they had white-hot intensity. That’s why he won caucuses and lost primaries. It’s why he’d have lost the General.

Correct. Anyhow I think 2020 will be interesting. I for one don’t want it to be one of Bernie, Biden, or Warren. Of them, I do like Biden best but I’d rather not have a nominee over 70 as we approach a new decade.

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The Major  May 4, 2018 • 2:14:29pm

re: #293 Joe Bacon 🌹

Frank Luntz’s focus groups are still testing them.

Speaking of Luntz, turns out he’s showing up in the Twin Cities for one of his focus groups…

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freetoken  May 4, 2018 • 2:16:49pm

I have written this here before and will repeat it again: we here are a self-selected (except when Charles has to do banning) group of mostly older people who, even if we don’t have a lot of formal education, have learned through our lives quite a bit.

And we’re fairly literate.

But this is not true of the population in general.

Which is why our opinions here are often the minority compared to the greater population.

This is why I am very cautious about extrapolating my own conclusions, about this or that issue or person, to the population at large.

If Facebook has any value at all, it has shown me just how many of my relatives are latent (or out) bigots. Also, the plethora of Facebook groups dedicated to the most idiotic items is astounding.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 4, 2018 • 2:16:56pm

re: #271 Belafon

I find it interesting that both Whataburger, and Taco Bueno, which are well loved here in Texas, aren’t trying to grow super fast. They have places throughout the country (they’ve both spread across the south and up toward the north east) but they haven’t pushed to get everywhere as fast as they can.

Overexpansion is the kiss of death. We had a fish ‘n’ chips chain here in WA (mostly) that was just head and shoulders above all their competitors. (Never-frozen, Puget Sound fish, etc.) Then they decided to expand all over the U.S. west of the Mississippi. Of course, the quality went to hell, they immediately tanked, and they slowly went out of business even here. (A couple of owner-operated stores held on for a while.)

You can still get their tartar sauce and clam chowder in stores, and now I see on Yelp that they’re trying a comeback as takeout kiosks in a few AM/PM Mini-Marts, but I haven’t tried them for fear of being disappointed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 2:17:38pm

Detroit power outages up to more than 300,000 now.
Wondering if MrBWS is going to actually make it home tonight; it’s his first week back to work since his heart attack in January.

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KGxvi  May 4, 2018 • 2:18:03pm

re: #287 HappyWarrior

Yep

He and his supporters will never admit it but he got a lot of support from conservative Dems who hate HRC. I think 2020 will be when his mystique wears off. Other candidates will point out things that HRC didn’t or got ignored because Bernie was the scrappy underdog story. He’s not that anymore.

re: #294 Blind Frog Belly White

The thing people miss about Sanders is that he had fewer supporters, but they had white-hot intensity. That’s why he won caucuses and lost primaries. It’s why he’d have lost the General.

I think it’s a combination of these two things. I think there was much less organic support for Hillary Clinton within the Democratic voters than the narrative makers would have us believe. I also think the BernieBros/moonbats are akin to the Trumper/wingnuts in the GOP, they’ll go to war for their guy against even perceived general election allies. Those who didn’t like Clinton, for whatever reason, went to Sanders because he appeared to be the only viable alternative. But there were enough voters willing to vote for Clinton that those opposed couldn’t overcome it.

2020 is going to be a very different beast for Sanders (assuming he runs) because the field will be bigger and because when you run a second time, you face a lot more scrutiny - both from the media and from voters. I don’t think Sanders has the discipline to handle that.

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 2:18:07pm

re: #299 makeitstop

Mine was on Jericho Turnpike in Commack. :)

White Castle was definitely the best drunk food. After club gigs we’d either grab a bag of sliders or a bag of greasy tacos from Jack in the Box.

yes i was hoping i wouldnt have to explain why

also jack in the box route 25A in port jeff, 3am all the food’s closed on campus at stony brook

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:18:08pm

re: #304 freetoken

I have written this here before and will repeat it again: we here are a self-selected (except when Charles has to do banning) group of mostly older people who, even if we don’t have a lot of formal education, have learned through our lives quite a bit.

And we’re fairly literate.

But this is not true of the population in general.

Which is why our opinions here are often the minority compared to the greater population.

This is why I am very cautious about extrapolating my own conclusions, about this or that issue or person, to the population at large.

If Facebook has any value at all, it has shown me just how many of my relatives are latent (or out) bigots. Also, the plethora of Facebook groups dedicated to the most idiotic items is astounding.

Is this about hamburger joints?
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freetoken  May 4, 2018 • 2:18:29pm

re: #309 Blind Frog Belly White

Is this about hamburger joints?
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Pineapple.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 2:18:33pm

re: #272 JordanRules

I have a psychological block that wont let me cook burgers from frozen. I’ve had them when others made them and they were just fine, but it’s just a weird thing I have. Must defrost, shape a bit and add seasonings if they are pre-formed.

I’m fundamentally lazy, so being able to go straight from the freezer to the grill makes it much easier for me.

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Single-handed sailor  May 4, 2018 • 2:18:39pm

I find the best burgers

come from hole-in-the-wall joints.

This place is nearby and their burgers are cheaper than a Wendy’s Dave’s Single, larger, and oh so tasty.

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BigPapa  May 4, 2018 • 2:18:39pm

re: #259 Skip Intro

Did Dennis Miller ever come up with any jokes last Wednesday? I seem to have missed them.

We are Day +2 of Dennis Miller Sick Burn Watch. Maybe his joke writers were busy.

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Stanley Sea  May 4, 2018 • 2:18:41pm

re: #216 freetoken

All this fast-food burger joint talk… I used to visit various “Alberto’s”, “Adelberto’s” and “Roberto’s” - for those who don’t know San Diego, those are common name for Mexican fast-food take out places - to see if they were all alike.

Anyway, there used to be some very good places to get decent burritos on the cheap. Alas, those days are gone.

Make the trip to Rudy’s in Solana beach. The BEST Carne asada burritos. I’ve had them cater an event as well, they are that good.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 2:19:29pm

re: #313 BigPapa

We are Day +2 of Dennis Miller Sick Burn Watch. Maybe his joke writers were busy.

He already threw in the towel.

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 2:19:52pm

re: #304 freetoken

I have written this here before and will repeat it again: we here are a self-selected (except when Charles has to do banning) group of mostly older people who, even if we don’t have a lot of formal education, have learned through our lives quite a bit.

And we’re fairly literate.

But this is not true of the population in general.

Which is why our opinions here are often the minority compared to the greater population.

This is why I am very cautious about extrapolating my own conclusions, about this or that issue or person, to the population at large.

If Facebook has any value at all, it has shown me just how many of my relatives are latent (or out) bigots. Also, the plethora of Facebook groups dedicated to the most idiotic items is astounding.

now im all depressed
im going out for a burger

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KGxvi  May 4, 2018 • 2:19:57pm

re: #309 Blind Frog Belly White

Is this about hamburger joints?
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dammit you beat me to the joke.

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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 2:20:15pm

re: #207 KGxvi

Nope, In-n-Out is weak AF.

I think In-n-Out sucks. I have no idea why this is a thing. At all. Their burgers are not good in any way. And their fries are as good as their burgers (not at all).

Personally, when I am out west, the first thing I do is get a low-carb Carl’s Jr. burger. I love those. (And they are not the same as Hardees, even as they are owned by the same company.)

I haven’t tried 5 Guys. I think that’s on my list since they supposedly have good burgers and they do low-carb. And they are somewhat local. Win-Win.

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Bubblehead II  May 4, 2018 • 2:20:20pm

re: #297 The Major

1 gram of fissile plutonium air deposited will cause quite a bit of damage.

Last documented being on campus in 2004. Sloppy. Very sloppy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 2:21:06pm

re: #304 freetoken

I like it here because of the general civil tone that rarely gets ad hominem.

I delete political posts on FB regardless of what direction they are, and have block or unfriended people who get too carried away with it.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 2:21:09pm

Potentials I like:
Booker- CJ reform voice, some stuff does rub me the wrong way.

Harris- She’s tough, smart, & leading the way on dream.

Patrick- I need to see more of him but he has an exec record.

Gillibrand- Franken I know but she’s been s great voice against the admin

Brown- seems to be able to do the populist thing without ignoring PoC

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BigPapa  May 4, 2018 • 2:21:40pm

All this burger talk makes me remember Eddie Murphy’s Green Pepper Burger bit.

Eddie Murphy On McDonalds

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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 2:22:00pm

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Best burger I ever had was near a Laguna reservation in NM. Unfortunately my buddy no longer lives that way.

While not fast food, Ruby Tuesday and Red Robin have really good burgers.

Why, yes, I am hungry? Why do you ask?

(We’re going to a French restaurant tonight. OHBOYOHBOYOHBOY!)

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The Major  May 4, 2018 • 2:22:00pm

re: #319 Bubblehead II

Last documented being on campus in 2004. Sloppy. Very sloppy.

Yeesh….

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 2:22:03pm

re: #307 KGxvi

I think it’s a combination of these two things. I think there was much less organic support for Hillary Clinton within the Democratic voters than the narrative makers would have us believe. I also think the BernieBros/moonbats are akin to the Trumper/wingnuts in the GOP, they’ll go to war for their guy against even perceived general election allies. Those who didn’t like Clinton, for whatever reason, went to Sanders because he appeared to be the only viable alternative. But there were enough voters willing to vote for Clinton that those opposed couldn’t overcome it.

2020 is going to be a very different beast for Sanders (assuming he runs) because the field will be bigger and because when you run a second time, you face a lot more scrutiny - both from the media and from voters. I don’t think Sanders has the discipline to handle that.

Well said.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 4, 2018 • 2:22:21pm

re: #315 JordanRules

He already threw in the towel.

He may have finally watched her routine and decided its harshness toward SHS was overstated. So he backed out.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 4, 2018 • 2:22:22pm

re: #305 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Overexpansion is the kiss of death. We had a fish ‘n’ chips chain here in WA (mostly) that was just head and shoulders above all their competitors. (Never-frozen, Puget Sound fish, etc.) Then they decided to expand all over the U.S. west of the Mississippi. Of course, the quality went to hell, they immediately tanked, and they slowly went out of business even here. (A couple of owner-operated stores held on for a while.)

You can still get their tartar sauce and clam chowder in stores, and now I see on Yelp that they’re trying a comeback as takeout kiosks in a few AM/PM Mini-Marts, but I haven’t tried them for fear of being disappointed.

I remembered everything but their name: Skipper’s. SMH….

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 2:22:45pm

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I like it here because of the general civil tone that rarely gets ad hominem.

I delete political posts on FB regardless of what direction they are, and have block or unfriended people who get too carried away with it.

dont be a jerk and nobody will call you one

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gocart mozart  May 4, 2018 • 2:23:09pm
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freetoken  May 4, 2018 • 2:23:27pm

It’s a long way to 2020.

I think it is imperative that the Democratic party puts forward a very large list of candidates - no more trios of potential candidates as too often has happened.

The inner workings of the DNC is a mystery to me, but I hope that they don’t get behind any single candidate.

What this country needs is a groundswell behind a Democratic candidate, not a top-down ordination.

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Single-handed sailor  May 4, 2018 • 2:24:44pm

re: #318 MsJ

I don’t trust a burger joint that doesn’t offer bacon.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 4, 2018 • 2:25:05pm

re: #307 KGxvi

I think it’s a combination of these two things. I think there was much less organic support for Hillary Clinton within the Democratic voters than the narrative makers would have us believe. I also think the BernieBros/moonbats are akin to the Trumper/wingnuts in the GOP, they’ll go to war for their guy against even perceived general election allies. Those who didn’t like Clinton, for whatever reason, went to Sanders because he appeared to be the only viable alternative. But there were enough voters willing to vote for Clinton that those opposed couldn’t overcome it.

2020 is going to be a very different beast for Sanders (assuming he runs) because the field will be bigger and because when you run a second time, you face a lot more scrutiny - both from the media and from voters. I don’t think Sanders has the discipline to handle that.

If Bernie decides to run, the Russian bots will be out in full force supporting him, even more so than in 2016. It may depend on how much Putin wants him to disrupt the Democratic primaries.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 4, 2018 • 2:25:38pm

re: #318 MsJ

If you are going to do in-n-out you nee to do it right…double double (or bigger) animal style and ask for fries well done. Way better than Carl’s Jr. (although their sliders were pretty legit). Five guys is pretty darn good and so is Fat Burger. That covers fast food.

If you want a really good burger and have access to a Lazy Dog Cafe, their black and blue burger is legit. Then there are the local places (near long beach CA) that are hidden gems too.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 2:25:46pm

re: #329 gocart mozart

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I liked the Terminator franchise better before they made Trump the hero. The hero needs to be likable.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:26:14pm

re: #314 Stanley Sea

Make the trip to Rudy’s in Solana beach. The BEST Carne asada burritos. I’ve had them cater an event as well, they are that good.

I had to find a new taqueria when our facility moved from South City to Brisbane. South City has a lot larger Hispanic population, so there are at least 1/2 dozen taquerias just in the downtown area. Luckily, there’s ONE in Brisbane that’s not so bad.

They have a very different take on ‘taco’ from my South City favorite, though. Instead of meat, lettuce, and pico de gallo on the regular corn tortillas, this place uses the little tortillas, and top with onions, cilantro, and spicy salsa. And they really work the carnitas on the flat top - not just chopped, but almost shredded, and really crispy!

The problem is 3 tacos are barely a meal, and the idea of ordering 4 is just too much!

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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 2:27:29pm

re: #262 JordanRules

Nope, just a bit more than a Wendy’s premium burger I’d say.

I loved Wendy’s when they first came out. It’s not the same now.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 4, 2018 • 2:27:35pm

re: #335 Blind Frog Belly White

Tacos made with cilantro, onion and salsa are considered “authentic” street tacos around here. Finding one made with lettuce is usually only done by gringos.

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The Major  May 4, 2018 • 2:27:41pm

re: #329 gocart mozart

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KGxvi  May 4, 2018 • 2:28:23pm

re: #330 freetoken

It’s a long way to 2020.

I think it is imperative that the Democratic party puts forward a very large list of candidates - no more trios of potential candidates as too often has happened.

The inner workings of the DNC is a mystery to me, but I hope that they don’t get behind any single candidate.

What this country needs is a groundswell behind a Democratic candidate, not a top-down ordination.

I suspect 2020 will play out a lot like “normal” election cycles. Come January 2019, a lot of Democrats will suddenly be spending time in New Hampshire and/or Iowa, and probably in Nevada. But the field will get winnowed down fairly quickly as it becomes more and more clear who is viable and who is not. I don’t think we’re going to see a 1992 style campaign where five different people win primaries, nor do I think we’ll see a 2000/2016 style coronation. I’d guess 2004, sort of in the middle of those examples, would be the most likely precedent.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:28:26pm

re: #317 KGxvi

dammit you beat me to the joke.

Snooze/lose.

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Stanley Sea  May 4, 2018 • 2:28:35pm

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure there’s at least one lizard who proudly possesses one of those big green egg things.

Smith

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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 2:29:31pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

since there is food talk:

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YES, PLEASE!

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Single-handed sailor  May 4, 2018 • 2:30:43pm

re: #332 Hecuba’s daughter

If Bernie decides to run, the Russian bots will be out in full force supporting him, even more so than in 2016. It may depend on how much Putin wants him to disrupt the Democratic primaries.

I think Putin has realized he made a mistake installing a loose cannon as head of the most powerful economy and military on the planet. He should be terrified of another 4 years of Trump.

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The Major  May 4, 2018 • 2:30:51pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 4, 2018 • 2:30:59pm

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure there’s at least one lizard who proudly possesses one of those big green egg things.

I have a Kamado Joe.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 2:31:14pm

re: #338 The Major

Colossus saves the world from alien invaders in another book from the Colossus trilogy.

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KGxvi  May 4, 2018 • 2:31:19pm

re: #332 Hecuba’s daughter

If Bernie decides to run, the Russian bots will be out in full force supporting him, even more so than in 2016. It may depend on how much Putin wants him to disrupt the Democratic primaries.

Hopefully the experience of 2016 (and this year) will have voters more aware of meddling.

Or even better, hopefully Facebook and twitter will have died a painful death by then and social media will be pictures of kids and puppies again.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:31:32pm

re: #337 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Tacos made with cilantro, onion and salsa are considered “authentic” street tacos around here. Finding one made with lettuce is usually only done by gringos.

Maybe, but when I go to the taqueria in South City, my gringo-ness makes me stand out like a sore thumb!

Besides, I though the ultimate gringo taco was a hard-shell with ground beef with McCormick Taco Seasoning, with grated cheddar cheese and Old El Paso “salsa’.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 4, 2018 • 2:32:00pm

re: #304 freetoken

I have written this here before and will repeat it again: we here are a self-selected (except when Charles has to do banning) group of mostly older people who, even if we don’t have a lot of formal education, have learned through our lives quite a bit.

And we’re fairly literate.

But this is not true of the population in general.

Which is why our opinions here are often the minority compared to the greater population.

This is why I am very cautious about extrapolating my own conclusions, about this or that issue or person, to the population at large.

If Facebook has any value at all, it has shown me just how many of my relatives are latent (or out) bigots. Also, the plethora of Facebook groups dedicated to the most idiotic items is astounding.

The Trumpsters I know are all literate. Educated people are not exempt from racism or religious fanaticism or Netanyahu worship or Fox brainwashing.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 2:32:17pm

re: #336 MsJ

I loved Wendy’s when they first came out. It’s not the same now.

Strong agree!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:32:40pm

re: #329 gocart mozart

“Not all humans Alex. Just you. That computer really fucking hates you.”

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Bubblehead II  May 4, 2018 • 2:33:20pm

re: #329 gocart mozart

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Well we know he isn’t talking about Colossus. Must be SkyNet.

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 2:33:34pm

re: #326 Hecuba’s daughter

He may have finally watched her routine and decided its harshness toward SHS was overstated. So he backed out.

or he realized he had no funny stuff

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Jay C  May 4, 2018 • 2:33:37pm

re: #275 dangerman

you know that for them “reasonable” is the first step on the slippery slope to confiscation

Not really: it’s more like:

you know that for them “reasonable” is the first step on the slippery slope absolutely equal to to confiscation

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 2:33:50pm

re: #348 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe, but when I go to the taqueria in South City, my gringo-ness makes me stand out like a sore thumb!

Besides, I though the ultimate gringo taco was a hard-shell with ground beef with McCormick Taco Seasoning, with grated cheddar cheese and Old El Paso “salsa’.

Dios mio, that is a gringo taco but I wouldn’t worry about being the only gringo. I went to a South American restaurant and got a Bolivian dish and the staff couldn’t have been more friendly.

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BigPapa  May 4, 2018 • 2:34:13pm

OK that was a long earthquake. Sorta shimmy shakey buggah.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:34:29pm

re: #353 dangerman

or he realized he had no funny stuff

He read Samantha Bee’s set of Dennis Miller jokes and realized they had his number.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 2:35:12pm

re: #357 Blind Frog Belly White

He read Samantha Bee’s set of Dennis Miller jokes and realized they had his number.

Yeah. They nailed it. Nothing left for him to do. Cha, cha, cha!

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gwangung  May 4, 2018 • 2:35:14pm

re: #347 KGxvi

Hopefully the experience of 2016 (and this year) will have voters more aware of meddling.

Naw. Lotta of people living on that delta from Egypt,

Kinda stupid, IMO. They KNOW Republicans have done that kind of ratfucking before. What’s stopping foreign agents from doing the same thing.

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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 2:35:19pm

re: #326 Hecuba’s daughter

He may have finally watched her routine and decided its harshness toward SHS was overstated. So he backed out.

No. He is not funny and his writers (who were funny) are long gone. He has no capacity to write stuff on his own.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:35:46pm

re: #355 HappyWarrior

Dios mio, that is a gringo taco but I wouldn’t worry about being the only gringo. I went to a South American restaurant and got a Bolivian dish and the staff couldn’t have been more friendly.

Oh, I never worry about being the only gringo. It’s when there are gringos working behind the counter that I worry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 2:36:23pm

re: #353 dangerman

or he realized he had no funny stuff

well, his trial jokes on Monday were really pathetic and people on twitter let him know it in no uncertain terms.

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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 2:36:25pm

re: #331 Single-handed sailor

I don’t trust a burger joint that doesn’t offer bacon.

Heresy! I wouldn’t either.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 2:36:46pm

Major shout out to the South Carolina Dems!

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Single-handed sailor  May 4, 2018 • 2:37:16pm

M 5.6 quake on the Big Island.

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BigPapa  May 4, 2018 • 2:37:24pm

I’mma call it a 4.9. It was side to side but with a little of a swirl.

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stpaulbear  May 4, 2018 • 2:38:18pm

re: #336 MsJ

I loved Wendy’s when they first came out. It’s not the same now.

I really like the apple pecan chicken salad at Wendy’s. I usually get that and a small chili.

All this talk about burgers has me craving a bacon pepperjack burger from a restaurant/bar called Shamrock’s in my neighborhood. They may have the best burgers and fries in the Twin Cities. SO good. If I’m going to get one, I need to do it soon or they’ll be too crowded. Highly recommended.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 2:38:47pm

re: #343 Single-handed sailor

I think Putin has realized he made a mistake installing a loose cannon as head of the most powerful economy and military on the planet. He should be terrified of another 4 years of Trump.

For that, he knows that we are hapless on foreign policy, have not even installed ambassadors and State Department personnel in key positions and pretty much have free hand to do whatever they want to do anywhere with minimal US interference save for the occasionally highly telegraphed missile strike.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 2:38:54pm

re: #356 BigPapa

OK that was a long earthquake. Sorta shimmy shakey buggah.

M5.6 - 18km SW of Leilani Estates, Hawaii

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 2:39:00pm

I don’t remember this. Do any of yall?

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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 2:39:03pm

re: #333 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

If you are going to do in-n-out you nee to do it right…double double (or bigger) animal style and ask for fries well done. Way better than Carl’s Jr. (although their sliders were pretty legit). Five guys is prWeetty darn good and so is Fat Burger. That covers fast food.

If you want a really good burger and have access to a Lazy Dog Cafe, their black and blue burger is legit. Then there are the local places (near long beach CA) that are hidden gems too.

We got a double-double. Meh. Completely. What is animal style? Rare? I know we didn’t ask for that. I didn’t realize you could specify well done fries (the best way to eat fries…which I no longer eat).

I am in Michigan (ish) now. So my FF options are limited…few west coast chains here.

Thanks for the 411 on Long Beach. I am keeping that noted for when we next travel that way.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 2:39:05pm

re: #361 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, I never worry about being the only gringo. It’s when there are gringos working behind the counter that I worry.

For sure! When I visited my brother in Nevada, we went to a mom and pop taqueria, we by far were the lightest people there including his daughter who had to be sun protected more at that age and the staff were a bunch of abulitas. Great food for good prices and my niece loved the ladies. Their Spanish banter reminded her of her Abu and great aunts.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:39:14pm

re: #330 freetoken

It’s a long way to 2020.

I think it is imperative that the Democratic party puts forward a very large list of candidates - no more trios of potential candidates as too often has happened.

The inner workings of the DNC is a mystery to me, but I hope that they don’t get behind any single candidate.

What this country needs is a groundswell behind a Democratic candidate, not a top-down ordination.

Now “It’s A Long Way To Tipperarie” is going through my mind.

It displaced “The Savoy Truffle”, which has been going through my mind since we got the news about Rango’s teeth -

But you have to have them all pulled out
After the Savoy Truffle!

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Bubblehead II  May 4, 2018 • 2:39:44pm

re: #346 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Colossus saves the world from alien invaders in another book from the Colossus trilogy.

Colossus and the Crab irrc. Forbin dies destroying the air harvester.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 4, 2018 • 2:39:47pm

re: #329 gocart mozart

Alex has realized that a computer can’t sue him for defamation.

On the same theme, I have long predicted that when real aliens arrive, they will not ask for the POTUS or the UN Secretary-General but for a crew of tort lawyers. They will then file defamation suits against various ufools and media quacks for false allegations of kidnapping, cattle rustling, airspace violations etc.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 4, 2018 • 2:39:53pm

Power is still out. I sent Zedushka to Home Depot to get a bunch of LED lights. I can’t use the oven but I have a big cast iron skillet so Fried Chicken for Shabbat. I am using my phone to get on lgf.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 4, 2018 • 2:40:01pm

re: #352 Bubblehead II

Well we know he isn’t talking about Colossus. Must be SkyNet.

It’s just Bender talking big. He won’t actually kill all humans.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 4, 2018 • 2:40:05pm
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 2:40:21pm

Most gringo Mexican item I ever saw was that Trump taco bowl.

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dangerman  May 4, 2018 • 2:40:47pm

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, his trial jokes on Monday were really pathetic and people on twitter let him know it in no uncertain terms.

yup.
he cut bait

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Varek Raith  May 4, 2018 • 2:40:57pm

Fun fact;
Kilauea has been erupting my entire life.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 4, 2018 • 2:41:06pm

I have to sit outside to capture the wifi but it’s nice out.

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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 2:41:24pm

re: #343 Single-handed sailor

I think Putin has realized he made a mistake installing a loose cannon as head of the most powerful economy and military on the planet. He should be terrified of another 4 years of Trump.

You’re joking, right? Everything he wants is happening. Chaos, fear…it all plays into how his authoritarianism is better than anything else anywhere.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 2:42:10pm

re: #376 The Vicious Babushka

Power is still out. I sent Zedushka to Home Depot to get a bunch of LED lights. I can’t use the oven but I have a big cast iron skillet so Fried Chicken for Shabbat. I am using my phone to get on lgf.

My friends up there all still have power surprisingly.
I’d probably sabotage our power if it meant someone was gonna bless us with some great skillet fried yard bird!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 2:42:42pm

re: #370 JordanRules

I don’t remember this. Do any of yall?

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actually, I *do* remember that.
I was on the faculty for journalism/media communications at the university at that time and we were all just stunned.

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Citizen K  May 4, 2018 • 2:43:06pm

I mean…I hate that this sort of calculus needs to be done. But it’s kind of the reality on the ground. It’s a shitty feeling sort of pragmatism but it might be the only way to get actual tangible results before the usual media double standard bullshit can sink the actual movement.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 4, 2018 • 2:45:11pm

Oh shut I just remembered there is a bunch of ice cream in the garage freezer

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:45:41pm

“Trade wars are good! And easy to win!”

Why, just look at this one! See how easily China is winning?

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Single-handed sailor  May 4, 2018 • 2:45:50pm
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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 2:46:44pm

re: #379 HappyWarrior

Most gringo Mexican item I ever saw was that Trump taco bowl.

I loved those! Do they still sell them?

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 2:49:18pm

re: #390 MsJ

I loved those! Do they still sell them?

At the Trump hotel or anywhere ? I’m not sure. I’m a burrito man.

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KGxvi  May 4, 2018 • 2:50:24pm

re: #333 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Then there are the local places (near long beach CA) that are hidden gems too.

Ahem, I’m listening…

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BeachDem  May 4, 2018 • 2:50:41pm

re: #330 freetoken

It’s a long way to 2020.

I think it is imperative that the Democratic party puts forward a very large list of candidates - no more trios of potential candidates as too often has happened.

The inner workings of the DNC is a mystery to me, but I hope that they don’t get behind any single candidate.

What this country needs is a groundswell behind a Democratic candidate, not a top-down ordination.

Despite the old ordination/coronation talk about Hillary, there really was a grassroots group that preceded her campaign.

Ready for Hillary, was a super PAC created to draft Hillary Clinton for the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Ready for Hillary focused on grassroots organizing and did not engage in television advertising.The PAC was founded by Adam Parkhomenko and Allida Black. Ready for Hillary raised over $4 million in 2013, $1.25 million of which came in the first half of the year. 98% of Ready for Hillary’s 33,631 donations in 2013 were $100 or less.

(And they had THE BEST swag!!)

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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 2:50:46pm

re: #391 HappyWarrior

At the Trump hotel or anywhere ? I’m not sure. I’m a burrito man.

Taco Bell. Fuck trump. I would never, ever eat anything trump.

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MsJ  May 4, 2018 • 2:51:48pm

re: #379 HappyWarrior

Most gringo Mexican item I ever saw was that Trump taco bowl.

I completely misread this as taco bell, not trump taco.

Ok, time for me to take a break. :-D

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 2:51:49pm

re: #394 MsJ

Taco Bell. Fuck trump. I would never, ever eat anything trump.

Oh I’m sure TB does. I haven’t been to TB in awhile tho.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 2:52:11pm

re: #395 MsJ

I completely misread this as taco bell, not trump taco.

Ok, time for me to take a break. :-D

Ah ha!

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stpaulbear  May 4, 2018 • 2:52:49pm

re: #390 MsJ

I loved those! Do they still sell them?

I can get those for lunch every “Taco Tuesday” at the work cafeteria. It’s build-your-own and pay by the ounce. Those shells are so tempting but they have about 10 billion calories so I never get them.

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BeachDem  May 4, 2018 • 2:53:01pm

re: #336 MsJ

I loved Wendy’s when they first came out. It’s not the same now.

Never cared for Wendy’s (and I lived in Columbus.) Used to do a lot of freelancing with their local agency and the rule was that if you brought food into the office, it had to be Wendy’s. I lost a lot of weight working there.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 2:53:32pm

re: #393 BeachDem

Despite the old ordination/coronation talk about Hillary, there really was a grassroots group that preceded her campaign.

Ready for Hillary, was a super PAC created to draft Hillary Clinton for the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Ready for Hillary focused on grassroots organizing and did not engage in television advertising.The PAC was founded by Adam Parkhomenko and Allida Black. Ready for Hillary raised over $4 million in 2013, $1.25 million of which came in the first half of the year. 98% of Ready for Hillary’s 33,631 donations in 2013 were $100 or less.

(And they had THE BEST swag!!)

Yep I remember you telling me that when I was skeptical. In any case, she earned the nomination and the sexism against her left and right was obvious.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 4, 2018 • 2:54:31pm

“… First reported by CNN, Peña detailed her claims of professional misconduct against Jackson in memos to senators considering his nomination to head the VA. CNN also reported that Peña claimed Jackson may have violated Second Lady Karen Pence’s patient privacy rights by sharing details of a medical incident involving her to chief of staff John Kelly. …”

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Bubblehead II  May 4, 2018 • 2:55:11pm

re: #382 The Vicious Babushka

I have to sit outside to capture the wifi but it’s nice out.

I have an earlier version one of these that I keep charged at all times. Keeps my smart phone and pad fully charged on the bus trip to work. If power goes out I can use the smart phone as a wifi hot spot for either my pad or laptop without worrying about running it down.

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BigPapa  May 4, 2018 • 2:55:45pm

re: #389 Single-handed sailor

Hawaiian Paradise Park is where my wife grew up and mom used to live. Still lots of family there.

Kapoho is my ‘quiet getaway’ that’s off the beaten track.

One of my wife’s besties lives in Pahoa.

Price you pay for living in paradise. Madame Pele will do as she wishes.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 4, 2018 • 2:56:03pm

In spite of the power outage I can still grab wifi if I step outside.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:56:33pm

re: #400 HappyWarrior

Yep I remember you telling me that when I was skeptical. In any case, she earned the nomination and the sexism against her left and right was obvious.

What I have never, ever understood was the depth and intensity of the hatred for her, especially on the Left. I mean, there’s hardly any daylight between her and Obama on most issues, and the same people who think Obama’s shit don’t stink think Clinton is the Devil Incarnate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 2:57:26pm

re: #405 Blind Frog Belly White

What I have never, ever understood was the depth and intensity of the hatred for her, especially on the Left. I mean, there’s hardly any daylight between her and Obama on most issues, and the same people who think Obama’s shit don’t stink think Clinton is the Devil Incarnate.

fashion

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 2:57:41pm

re: #389 Single-handed sailor

Hawaii Bro lives in Hilo, 20-30 miles North of there.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 2:57:56pm

re: #405 Blind Frog Belly White

What I have never, ever understood was the depth and intensity of the hatred for her, especially on the Left. I mean, there’s hardly any daylight between her and Obama on most issues, and the same people who think Obama’s shit don’t stink think Clinton is the Devil Incarnate.

I know. My brothers liked Obama but hate her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 2:58:35pm

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

Oh shut I just remembered there is a bunch of ice cream in the garage freezer

better get cracking on eating it.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 3:00:00pm

re: #405 Blind Frog Belly White

What I have never, ever understood was the depth and intensity of the hatred for her, especially on the Left. I mean, there’s hardly any daylight between her and Obama on most issues, and the same people who think Obama’s shit don’t stink think Clinton is the Devil Incarnate.

30 years of work against her and….lady parts

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 3:00:17pm

re: #406 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

fashion

It’s not just that she’s a woman tho latent sexism did play a part.

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Bubblehead II  May 4, 2018 • 3:00:23pm

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

Oh shut I just remembered there is a bunch of ice cream in the garage freezer

Ouch. Hope you keep a block of ice in it to help keep it cold for short outages.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 3:00:28pm

re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth

better get cracking on eating it.

Will go great with her pie!

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 3:00:51pm

re: #410 JordanRules

30 years of work against her and….lady parts

For my brothers, definitely the former and a little of the latter unfortunately.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 4, 2018 • 3:01:25pm

re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth

better get cracking on eating it.

Is mr. Bws up here for dte energy? He is welcome to come over for ice cream, pie & fried chicken!

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EPR-radar  May 4, 2018 • 3:01:38pm

re: #405 Blind Frog Belly White

What I have never, ever understood was the depth and intensity of the hatred for her, especially on the Left. I mean, there’s hardly any daylight between her and Obama on most issues, and the same people who think Obama’s shit don’t stink think Clinton is the Devil Incarnate.

It appears that thirty years of relentless RWNJ propaganda against H. Clinton infected most in the mainstream media and way too many on the left.

As always, when Republicans complain about the ‘politics of personal destruction’ they are projecting.

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Barefoot Grin  May 4, 2018 • 3:02:16pm

Five Guys’ burgers are way better, but for our family Steak and Shake is the best—something for everyone when we’re on the road, affordable. Unfortunately, there aren’t any in New England where we now live.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 3:02:31pm

I think it was this reinforced message Hillary lies and can’t be trusted. You know why I think that? Because that was me for a long time. Klys helped set me straight more than anyone when I tried just seeing her as an extension of Bill rather than her own woman.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 3:02:32pm

California’s a mess! Nobody goes there, it’s too crowded!”

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 3:03:21pm

Fuck you again Mr. West!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 4, 2018 • 3:03:36pm

re: #417 Barefoot Grin

Five Guys’ burgers are way better, but for our family Steak and Shake is the best—something for everyone when we’re on the road, affordable. Unfortunately, there aren’t any in New England where we now live.

I haven’t been to a Steak and Shake in years. It used to be a college staple.

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calochortus  May 4, 2018 • 3:05:55pm

re: #419 Blind Frog Belly White

California’s a mess! Nobody goes there, it’s too crowded!”

And people are fleeing in droves, except for the illegals and other “takers.”
/

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 3:06:42pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 4, 2018 • 3:07:18pm

Dang! Forgot the traditional greeting for this date:

May the Fourth be with you.

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BeachDem  May 4, 2018 • 3:08:48pm

re: #364 JordanRules

Major shout out to the South Carolina Dems!

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AAUW, WREN, ProgressSC and other groups really worked their asses off, and Marlon Kimpson (8 hours of filibuster) and Margie Bright (many hours as well) deserve big applause. My state senator runs as a Republican so he can get elected, but is a Dem at heart, and he voted with the Dems to end the debate and kill the bill.

Every now and then, we actually win some battles!

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Hecuba's daughter  May 4, 2018 • 3:10:05pm

re: #418 HappyWarrior

I think it was this reinforced message Hillary lies and can’t be trusted. You know why I think that? Because that was me for a long time. Klys helped set me straight more than anyone when I tried just seeing her as an extension of Bill rather than her own woman.

Politifact (?) found her to be the most honest of the 2016 candidates and Trump the most dishonest, even more dishonest than Cruz. If the media hadn’t been relentless on the emails, and the GOP hadn’t fabricated the Benghazi inquisition, she would have won handily. If the MSM had done their job, we wouldn’t be facing this calamity.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 3:10:40pm

re: #420 JordanRules

Fuck you again Mr. West!

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It just makes me so sick how there are people out there who want to do everything possible to downplay the evils of slavery. You know my story, my dad’s mom’s family fled the Potato Famine. And yes life in Ireland especially Conneacht was tough but my third great grandfather was a free man. He was able to leave with his family to a better life. It annoys me so much when other Irish-Americans try to talk down to African-Americans like yourself by saying “Well the Irish slaves”(which is bullshit anyhow) or “My family”, no, we had it hard but we didn’t have generations of men, women, and children enslaved who had to worry about what would happen if we looked at someone wrong. And I wish that the former peasants of Europe had teamed up with the freemen to kick some serious ass.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 3:11:11pm

re: #422 calochortus

And people are fleeing in droves, except for the illegals and other “takers.”
/

“My taxes are paying for all those lazy people in California!” says the guy earning just-over-minimum wage in Alabama.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 3:12:22pm

re: #426 Hecuba’s daughter

Politifact (?) found her to be the most honest of the 2016 candidates and Trump the most dishonest, even more dishonest than Cruz. If the media hadn’t been relentless on the emails, and the GOP hadn’t fabricated the Benghazi inquisition, she would have won handily. If the MSM had done their job, we wouldn’t be facing this calamity.

That’s exactly what I mean. There’s a narrative that HRC is dishonest and not straight forward but not only is she more honest than Trump, she was more so than Bernie as well and she had a more comprehensive plan than Bernie. The sad irony about Hillary is that people like her more once she’s already in office and doing her job but they don’t like her as a candidate. She pointed out more than a few times that there were quite a few Republicans that praised her work in office but were too chicken shit to say it aloud because of the GOP base.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 4, 2018 • 3:12:22pm

re: #226 Unshaken Defiance

Here’s the secret of why “reasonable” is so offensive to them.

Because part of their demimonde is the fantasy of being unreasonable and not just getting away with it, but being praised.

If you look at the stories that these people tell themselves about who they are and who they want to be, it’s always, always that their anger and violence is justified, and that “evil” and crime are things encoded in being not-like-them. Built into the competence fantasy—in which their violence is a sign of superiority of skill and preparation—is a moral fantasy in which their violence is always necessary and justified, and that it is weakness to doubt the application of lethal force. Consider all of those stories in which lack of mercy is a merit—every single version of “urban youth will riot, and then we’ll have to shoot them all.” The fantasy is to be heroes and get to kill—coincidentally, “anybody” tends to be people that are different, not your neighbor Bob—and still be axiomatically righteous…and have fun.

The flip side of their fantasies is the “that weak liberal would let his family get X because he’s too weak to kill” just-so stories. It’s a whole genre. Remember that one by Phil Robertson? I remember because halfway through his home-invasion rape-murder story he switches for the third-person “criminal” to the first person. Which isn’t a surprise. The story…the genre…exists to stimulate that sense of being morally superior and more puissant than the unarmed. The fictional guy watching his family get raped and his dick cut off exists so that Phil Robertson—or any other raconteur working in the same standard form—can feel superior to the straw man.

This is an enclosed cultural group that has established a canon, and in that canon their actions are a priori moral: belong and you’re the good guy. Their analysis of everything…crime, rights, moral implications of lethal force emanates from the base assumption that they can’t be wrong. It sells anger, smugness, and a chauvinistic distinction of the armed versus the inferior unarmed. Back to Phil Robertson’s story…or pretty much anything Ted Nugent says, or the flights of fancy by various Twitter warriors…the recurring theme is that you are better not just than the criminals, but than the people you are “protecting.”

How often do lizards encounter 101st Chairborne that are specifically posturing themselves to seem dangerous, or saying versions “I could kill you” or “I’m prepared to kill people”? How about versions of “You better be grateful that I’m prepared to shoot someone?” How often does the boast of competence include an implicit threat not just to wrong-doers, but to insufficiently compliant onlookers? Or, in the case of Ted Nugent—NRA board member—an explicit one?

What brings these people together is not responsible ownership of firearms or thoughtful discussion about self-defense and lethal force as acts within a societal frame. It’s a fantasy in which their violence is inherently ethical and heroic, and questioning that assumption is a kind of treachery. All flavors of “reasonable” includes standards that cockblock that unlimited power fantasy.

Which is why we’re now at a place where mass shootings are (1) government frame-ups, (2) all done by “liberals,” (3) the victims should have been armed, (4) any survivors that criticize the ubiquity of ARs can be hounded as traitors and as having no soul.

Cannot be wrong; can only be wronged.

Weber once characterized “monopoly of violence” as a feature of government: who gets to hurt and kill demonstrates who has power. Map that concept onto to the full picture of the NRA—whose violence it excuses, whose violence it condemns, what kinds of violence it overlooks (domestic violence and murder…which they did just today, by ignoring that most mass shootings are multiple domestic murders…not in “gun free zones”)—and a picture resolves.

…and it’s a picture we can recognize from history all to easily: what kinds of extralegal violence get a pass…what vigilantes and mobs are simply let slide? Who deserved to die and why? Who is guilty enough to be killed outright and what’s the system by which that determination is made?

Reasonable is their wolfsbane. Reasonable suggests a consistent standard when their stock and trade is an inconsistent, tribal standard. Reasonable suggests that their basic distinction…we are the heroes, the rest of you are either dupes or malevolent…is hollow.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2018 • 3:12:26pm

re: #424 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Dang! Forgot the traditional greeting for this date:

May the Fourth be with you.

go fourth and multiply!

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Hecuba's daughter  May 4, 2018 • 3:13:08pm

re: #427 HappyWarrior

It just makes me so sick how there are people out there who want to do everything possible to downplay the evils of slavery. You know my story, my dad’s mom’s family fled the Potato Famine. And yes life in Ireland especially Conneacht was tough but my third great grandfather was a free man. He was able to leave with his family to a better life. It annoys me so much when other Irish-Americans try to talk down to African-Americans like yourself by saying “Well the Irish slaves”(which is bullshit anyhow) or “My family”, no, we had it hard but we didn’t have generations of men, women, and children enslaved who had to worry about what would happen if we looked at someone wrong. And I wish that the former peasants of Europe had teamed up with the freemen to kick some serious ass.

One million Irish did die in the manufactured potato famine. The food was there but the British landowners exported it.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 3:15:19pm

re: #432 Hecuba’s daughter

One million Irish did die in the manufactured potato famine. The food was there but the British landowners exported it.

I’m aware of the history trust me. I’m merely saying what the Irish went through does not compare to slavery especially in the New World where Irish laborers like my third great grandfather and his sons and sons in law had the ability to move from place to place. There wasn’t sexual predation against the women too in nearly the same scale as there was among slave owners as well.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 3:17:08pm

re: #429 HappyWarrior

That’s exactly what I mean. There’s a narrative that HRC is dishonest and not straight forward but not only is she more honest than Trump, she was more so than Bernie as well and she had a more comprehensive plan than Bernie. The sad irony about Hillary is that people like her more once she’s already in office and doing her job but they don’t like her as a candidate. She pointed out more than a few times that there were quite a few Republicans that praised her work in office but were too chicken shit to say it aloud because of the GOP base.

The media love to bitch about the Clintons not being upfront about things, about not just coming clean as soon as a scandal erupts, but I think NOBODY in politics in my 60 years of life has been publicly submitted to colonoscopy as thoroughly as they were.

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meteor  May 4, 2018 • 3:19:25pm
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Eventual Carrion  May 4, 2018 • 3:19:30pm

re: #271 Belafon

I find it interesting that both Whataburger, and Taco Bueno, which are well loved here in Texas, aren’t trying to grow super fast. They have places throughout the country (they’ve both spread across the south and up toward the north east) but they haven’t pushed to get everywhere as fast as they can.

When I lived in Baytown and Houston Texas Whataburger was one of my favorites. Fuddruckers was good too.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 3:19:43pm

re: #434 Blind Frog Belly White

The media love to bitch about the Clintons not being upfront about things, about not just coming clean as soon as a scandal erupts, but I think NOBODY in politics in my 60 years of life has been publicly submitted to colonoscopy as thoroughly as they were.

Yep exactly. They’re treated as if they’re the most corrupt politicians out there. Reagan’s administration was by far more corrupt than Bill’s yet that’s ignored. Bill’s opponents had sex scandals of their own. That too ignored. I didn’t like HRC at first but I have to tell you the more I learned, not only did I respect her more, the more I liked her because she’s put up with a lot of bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 3:20:19pm

re: #436 Eventual Carrion

When I lived in Baytown and Houston Texas Whataburger was one of my favorites. Fuddruckers was good too.

Used to love Fuddruckers as a kid since they had the free cookie for the kids meal and they had the gooey cheddar sauce that I would put on my burger and fries.

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JordanRules  May 4, 2018 • 3:22:33pm

re: #436 Eventual Carrion

When I lived in Baytown and Houston Texas Whataburger was one of my favorites. Fuddruckers was good too.

I’m a Fudd fan too. I like putting a lot of stuff on my burger sometimes.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 4, 2018 • 3:25:38pm

re: #438 HappyWarrior

Forgot about Fuddruckers. There used to be one in Philadelphia but it closed years ago

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 3:26:04pm

re: #415 The Vicious Babushka

Is mr. Bws up here for dte energy? He is welcome to come over for ice cream, pie & fried chicken!

I haven’t heard from him yet.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 4, 2018 • 3:26:20pm

re: #433 HappyWarrior

I’m aware of the history trust me. I’m merely saying what the Irish went through does not compare to slavery especially in the New World where Irish laborers like my third great grandfather and his sons and sons in law had the ability to move from place to place. There wasn’t sexual predation against the women too in nearly the same scale as there was among slave owners as well.

When the Irish came here, their lives became infinitely better than the slaves. However, back in Ireland, their condition was very dire. If the comparison is in their life here, there is no comparison — they were not slaves and had opportunities that were closed to African Americans.

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Varek Raith  May 4, 2018 • 3:26:43pm

Raining pollen.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 3:27:13pm

re: #440 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Forgot about Fuddruckers. There used to be one in Philadelphia but it closed years ago

Yeah the one near where I grew up closed years ago. Used to be a popular spot for Little League or League basketball team parties. I went to one in DC maybe five years ago but other than that. Shame, they’re good. I like their fries too.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 3:28:34pm

re: #442 Hecuba’s daughter

When the Irish came here, their lives became infinitely better than the slaves. However, back in Ireland, their condition was very dire. If the comparison is in their life here, there is no comparison — they were not slaves and had opportunities that were closed to African Americans.

That’s entirely my point. However, at least in Ireland, they did have the freedom to leave if they so chose. They didn’t risk death by fleeing the Atlantic. I’m not downplaying what happened in 19th century Ireland, I don’t like what happened in 19th century Ireland used to downplay what happened in the 19th century South.

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BeachDem  May 4, 2018 • 3:28:37pm

re: #418 HappyWarrior

I think it was this reinforced message Hillary lies and can’t be trusted. You know why I think that? Because that was me for a long time. Klys helped set me straight more than anyone when I tried just seeing her as an extension of Bill rather than her own woman.

I am still stymied as to what happened after her announcement. The Ready For Hillary peeps showed up everywhere, and they were young, enthusiastic and motivated. I manned the Ready For Hillary table at our 2014 state convention and had several hundred people sign up to work, mostly young/mostly women.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 3:31:58pm

re: #442 Hecuba’s daughter

When the Irish came here, their lives became infinitely better than the slaves. However, back in Ireland, their condition was very dire. If the comparison is in their life here, there is no comparison — they were not slaves and had opportunities that were closed to African Americans.

That’s the one I’ve seen slavery apologists make - that the Irish were treated as badly as or worse than blacks. This is based on a single misinterpreted throwaway line from some Jamaican governor of the 18th Century, IIRC.

Then the usual next step is to conflate slavery and indentured servitude, and then finish off by talking about black slaveowners.

The funny thing? What’s the name of the most famous fictional antebellum slaveowning family?

O’HARA

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 3:32:55pm

re: #446 BeachDem

I am still stymied as to what happened after her announcement. The Ready For Hillary peeps showed up everywhere, and they were young, enthusiastic and motivated. I manned the Ready For Hillary table at our 2014 state convention and had several hundred people sign up to work, mostly young/mostly women.

Yeah I really hated the narrative that it was old versus youth regarding her and Bernie. The funny thing for me is many pushing that were older themselves. You know me, I liked Bernie at first but he really soured on me by the Winter of 2016. I really wish O’Malley had emerged as her main challenger because I like him and small and insignificant damn it as silly as it sounds, I think he’s my cousin lol.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 3:33:58pm

re: #447 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s the one I’ve seen slavery apologists make - that the Irish were treated as badly as or worse than blacks. This is based on a single misinterpreted throwaway line from some Jamaican governor of the 18th Century, IIRC.

Then the usual next step is to conflate slavery and indentured servitude, and then finish off by talking about black slaveowners.

The funny thing? What’s the name of the most famous fictional antebellum slaveowning family?

O’HARA

The actual Irish people and Irish academics hate it when Irish-Americans do that. They know their history. They know their/our ancestors suffered but they don’t like that being used to tell people who have legitimate gripes to shut up.

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Eventual Carrion  May 4, 2018 • 3:39:25pm

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

Oh shut I just remembered there is a bunch of ice cream in the garage freezer

Get eating

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 4, 2018 • 3:41:14pm

re: #348 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe, but when I go to the taqueria in South City, my gringo-ness makes me stand out like a sore thumb!

Besides, I though the ultimate gringo taco was a hard-shell with ground beef with McCormick Taco Seasoning, with grated cheddar cheese and Old El Paso “salsa’.

Close lol

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 4, 2018 • 3:41:27pm

re: #449 HappyWarrior

The actual Irish people and Irish academics hate it when Irish-Americans do that. They know their history. They know their/our ancestors suffered but they don’t like that being used to tell people who have legitimate gripes to shut up.

Sure, when they arrived, the poorer Irish were shit on. But in a generation or two they’d become officially White.

Blacks stayed black.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 3:42:17pm

re: #452 Blind Frog Belly White

Sure, when they arrived, the poorer Irish were shit on. But in a generation or two they’d become officially White.

Blacks stayed black.

That’s the biggest difference. Our ancestors lost our accents, our names, etc as generations passed. Jim Crow was fucking awful.

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BeachDem  May 4, 2018 • 3:43:15pm

re: #444 HappyWarrior

Yeah the one near where I grew up closed years ago. Used to be a popular spot for Little League or League basketball team parties. I went to one in DC maybe five years ago but other than that. Shame, they’re good. I like their fries too.

They’re still here in Myrtle Beach. (another reason to visit!)

My Fuddruckers story is of ACTIVISM. They had one horrible video game with a gun that you could shoot a deer—it was nauseatingly lifelike and the kids all gathered around it. I went on a crusade to get it removed from our local store and finally succeeded. They probably just moved it to another location, but it felt good to get it out of ours.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2018 • 3:56:53pm

re: #433 HappyWarrior

I’m aware of the history trust me. I’m merely saying what the Irish went through does not compare to slavery especially in the New World where Irish laborers like my third great grandfather and his sons and sons in law had the ability to move from place to place. There wasn’t sexual predation against the women too in nearly the same scale as there was among slave owners as well.

Not all had to ability to just move from place to place.
That’s why so many died.

And trying to minimize sexual predation by comparing which was worse doesn’t make it any more palatable or excusable.

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CleverToad  May 4, 2018 • 3:58:10pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

Coors wasn’t joking when it said the secret was the water…

Rocky Mountain Elk Water!

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VegasGolfer  May 4, 2018 • 4:39:24pm

re: #241 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You ever eat at Hodad’s in San Diego?
Have a burger there and get back to me.

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Chad Thundercock  May 4, 2018 • 5:27:07pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

Coors wasn’t joking when it said the secret was the water…

That’s why it’s yellow!

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2018 • 5:33:19pm

re: #455 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not all had to ability to just move from place to place.
That’s why so many died.

And trying to minimize sexual predation by comparing which was worse doesn’t make it any more palatable or excusable.

True absolutely.


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