A Fantastic Version of the Classic Blind Faith Song by Lake Street Dive’s Rachael Price and the Chris Thile Band: “Can’t Find My Way Home”

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Rachael Price and the band perform Blind Faith’s “Can’t Find My Way Home.”

Vocals: Rachael Price
Mandolin and vocals: Chris Thile
Acoustic guitar: Chris Eldridge
Fiddle: Brittany Haas
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Electric guitar: Chris Bruce
Drums: Ted Poor

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:24:21pm

barf

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:25:03pm

This guy has NO RIGHT to complain about Trump any more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:27:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:29:10pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Loyalty is a one way street with Dummie.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:32:42pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

This guy has NO RIGHT to complain about Trump any more.

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Yeah, I was about to say that Corker dunking on Trump might have been impressive if he was doing it back when it mattered, but he ends the year as he began it: Making a lot but accomplishing little. If he thinks that saying a lot of mean shit about Donny is going to paper over how he kept voting the party line, he’s out of his fuckin’ gourd.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:33:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:34:42pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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Because he’s a coward. Talks tough but is a mentally weak man baby.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:36:10pm

an oldie but a goodie.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:36:35pm

re: #8 Single-handed sailor

an oldie but a goodie.

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Seriously

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:37:16pm

By the way, it also should be noted that Corker’s (likely) last vote of his Senate career appears to have been to avoid causing an embarrassment for Donny by allowing the House CR to move forward for “negotiations” when it’s obvious it’s never going to get the votes. So even in the end, as he points and laughs at Donny, there’s four other fingers pointing back at him.

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dangerman  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:37:48pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Because he’s a coward. Talks tough but is a mentally weak man baby.

took lessons from “flake the outgoing”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:39:06pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:40:43pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The man who made a TV career out of firing nobodies on TV has yet to fire any of his staff in-person. Every time he has fired somebody, it’s been through an intermediary while he rails against them on Twitter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:45:04pm
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wrenchwench  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:46:05pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

The man who made a TV career out of firing nobodies on TV has yet to fire any of his staff in-person. Every time he has fired somebody, it’s been through an intermediary while he rails against them on Twitter.

They keep having to tell him that just because somebody holds the title of ‘acting’ this or ‘acting’ that doesn’t mean he’s back on TV. And he hasn’t figured out the similarities and differences between reality and reality TV.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:46:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:47:05pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pretty rich to go after Charlotte while being a fan of Trump who repeatedly belittled the military for political gain.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:49:24pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:50:21pm

They have such respect for him…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:50:26pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:51:02pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:51:18pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But I’m guessing they were all champing at the bit to get out there and blame Dems for the shutdown.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:52:25pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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NYT reporters grow tired of shooting fish in a barrel, decide to try their hand at shooting them in a pool.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:52:40pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Oh yeah? Tough shit.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:53:20pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:54:08pm

re: #25 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Cat: “This is none of your concern.”
Dog: “Please…help…”

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:56:38pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:56:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:57:15pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:58:27pm

CL would love this:

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 1:59:27pm

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

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More accurate:

R: “We want a wall.”
D: “We think the fence in place is good enough.”
R: “Give Trump $5B for the damned wall!”
D: “We’ll give him $1.6B atop what he already has to repair and upgrade the existing fence.”
R: “He won’t accept anything but a wall! Shutdown!”
M: “Why won’t Dems just give Trump the money?”

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:00:19pm

re: #31 Targetpractice

M: “Why won’t Dems just give Trump the money?”

“Maybe this time he’ll stop hitting and biting.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:00:48pm
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dangerman  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:01:58pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Talk to a dem in Texas. Sc, miss, ala, etc

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:02:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:04:21pm

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Skip Intro  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:06:34pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Tweets have dates. Just saying.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:07:30pm

re: #16 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

We already knew this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:08:19pm
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dangerman  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:08:25pm

re: #33 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Wishing everyone a very Happy Holiday season!

It’s not my season
Are you forcing you’re religious seasons on me?

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:10:38pm

re: #33 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is not my holiday. Hanukah came early this year.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:12:38pm

The man who “made Americans proud to say ‘Merry Christmas’ again!” tweets “Happy Holidays” while the National Christmas Tree stands dark due to the gov’t shutdown.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:13:46pm

re: #42 Targetpractice

The man who “made Americans proud to say ‘Merry Christmas’ again!” tweets “Happy Holidays” while the National Christmas Tree stands dark due to the gov’t shutdown.

Couldn’t write that script.

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wrenchwench  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:13:46pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He looks cold. He should have a big, puffy coat on. But then he’d probably land in the water. THEN he’d be cold.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:17:04pm
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dangerman  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:18:53pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Couldn’t write that script.

And yet here we are

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:18:56pm

re: #45 Patricia Kayden

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Addendum. It’s also being able to have your misspellings explained as being part of how you “communicate.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:23:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:24:50pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:26:18pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

By the way, it also should be noted that Corker’s (likely) last vote of his Senate career appears to have been to avoid causing an embarrassment for Donny by allowing the House CR to move forward for “negotiations” when it’s obvious it’s never going to get the votes. So even in the end, as he points and laughs at Donny, there’s four other fingers pointing back at him.

Corker is a wimp with a big mouth. Normally that would get your ass kicked. These days it gets you elected as Republican Senator.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:27:27pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Actually firing people is different than doing it for fake on a reality show.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:27:59pm
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freetoken  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:28:01pm

So, I continue to plow through the myriad of house flipping/renovating/buying&selling shows (why… I don’t know)… and the same old stories come up again and again but there is something so clearly upfront in so many of the episodes that I think it deserves more comment.

Namely, parents seem to always want to move so their children can get into a “better” school district.

Now, I have no experience with this. When I was growing up there was just one school district.

There is a undertone of social disorder going on in these shows (besides the naked materialism and desire to boast).

It’s not always about bigotry - though I suspect there is an element of that.

There is something very very bad about the entire real estate industry that is designed to make people feel inadequate.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:32:58pm

re: #52 Patricia Kayden

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Go on Diane. Own the libs by donating and then you’ll cry when you can’t afford shit.

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wrenchwench  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:37:39pm

re: #53 freetoken

So, I continue to plow through the myriad of house flipping/renovating/buying&selling shows (why… I don’t know)… and the same old stories come up again and again but there is something so clearly upfront in so many of the episodes that I think it deserves more comment.

Namely, parents seem to always want to move so their children can get into a “better” school district.

Now, I have no experience with this. When I was growing up there was just one school district.

There is a undertone of social disorder going on in these shows (besides the naked materialism and desire to boast).

It’s not always about bigotry - though I suspect there is an element of that.

There is something very very bad about the entire real estate industry that is designed to make people feel inadequate.

Busing was an attempt to overcome segregated neighborhoods. Magnet schools and charter schools are an attempt to overcome neighborhood segregation without ‘forced busing’. Neighborhood segregation is a very, very high concern. Segregation seems to be all about making people feel inadequate, and/or motivated to prove their adequacy or superiority.

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ObserverArt  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:37:44pm

re: #42 Targetpractice

The man who “made Americans proud to say ‘Merry Christmas’ again!” tweets “Happy Holidays” while the National Christmas Tree stands dark due to the gov’t shutdown.

Trump has zero feel for his own actions.

He is the most vapid human ever. Ever.

And, he is so disconnected, he would claim it as a great thing…number one…the best vapid human ever.

Having followed him almost his whole career and knowing he would be a mess, he has surpassed how much a mess he really could be.

We haven’t yet discovered how far this can go.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:37:51pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

Go on Diane. Own the libs by donating and then you’ll cry when you can’t afford shit.

And 5 million is far away from 1 billion.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:38:40pm

re: #57 Patricia Kayden

And 5 million is far away from 1 billion.

Exactly

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:40:09pm

re: #57 Patricia Kayden

And 5 million is far away from 1 billion.

They’re like children, you have to lie to them to make them keep feeling special, else they start to get dejected and wander off to something else that makes them feel good.

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ObserverArt  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:44:25pm

re: #53 freetoken

So, I continue to plow through the myriad of house flipping/renovating/buying&selling shows (why… I don’t know)… and the same old stories come up again and again but there is something so clearly upfront in so many of the episodes that I think it deserves more comment.

Namely, parents seem to always want to move so their children can get into a “better” school district.

Now, I have no experience with this. When I was growing up there was just one school district.

There is a undertone of social disorder going on in these shows (besides the naked materialism and desire to boast).

It’s not always about bigotry - though I suspect there is an element of that.

There is something very very bad about the entire real estate industry that is designed to make people feel inadequate.

Have you not noticed that much marketing and advertising is designed to make people feel inadequate?

One of the reasons I shifted early from making the big bucks in advertising design for big consumer goods and services and went into technical markets with things like electronics for industry, manufacturing, high performance auto parts and the like.

I couldn’t take the BS and the egos in the agencies and how they use stature and getting over on others as a method to sell. Just couldn’t do it.

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Belafon  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:45:33pm

re: #16 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I would have been surprised had the video showed the other way around.

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BlueGrl21  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:46:32pm

re: #53 freetoken

So, I continue to plow through the myriad of house flipping/renovating/buying&selling shows (why… I don’t know)… and the same old stories come up again and again but there is something so clearly upfront in so many of the episodes that I think it deserves more comment.

Namely, parents seem to always want to move so their children can get into a “better” school district.

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Now, I have no experience with this. When I was growing up there was just one school district.

There is a undertone of social disorder going on in these shows (besides the naked materialism and desire to boast).

It’s not always about bigotry - though I suspect there is an element of that.

There is something very very bad about the entire real estate industry that is designed to make people feel inadequate.

We’re having a horrible battle in our school district right now. The southern part of the district….not where we are, other half…is deeply segregated by race and economics. Now the wealthy white/Asian areas are overcrowded so the district wants to send those kids to the “black” schools.

Problem is, those schools have been hit by institutional racism for 50 years. They are dilapidated, their academics are 20% lower than the new feeder schools, there is more violence, etc. There is much less money flowing in from the community. So even if the feeder school’s parents aren’t racist (plenty of them are) they are dealing with the effects of years of racism towards these black kids and neighborhoods.

I don’t know what the district is going to do. Those of us in the four high schools in the north, which are among the most diverse in the country, are keeping our heads down. It’s a disaster.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:49:47pm

What do ya expect? They celebrated when John McCain died.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:50:57pm

re: #63 DodgerFan1988

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What do ya expect? They celebrated when John McCain died.

They’ll sink lower.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:51:41pm

re: #63 DodgerFan1988

Actually I am praying that everything goes okay. I hate to see the SC lose her.

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wrenchwench  Dec 23, 2018 • 2:52:49pm

re: #62 BlueGrl21

We’re having a horrible battle in our school district right now. The southern part of the district….not where we are, other half…is deeply segregated by race and economics. Now the wealthy white/Asian areas are overcrowded so the district wants to send those kids to the “black” schools.

Problem is, those schools have been hit by institutional racism for 50 years. They are dilapidated, their academics are 20% lower than the new feeder schools, there is more violence, etc. There is much less money flowing in from the community. So even if the feeder school’s parents aren’t racist (plenty of them are) they are dealing with the effects of years of racism towards these black kids and neighborhoods.

I don’t know what the district is going to do. Those of us in the four high schools in the north, which are among the most diverse in the country, are keeping our heads down. It’s a disaster.

Racism messes up everything. Keep working at fixing things! Thanks!

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:03:59pm

re: #63 DodgerFan1988

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What do ya expect? They celebrated when John McCain died.

Nope. I’m sure they can go much lower than that. They certainly live up to the deplorable name.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:06:46pm

PhillyPretzel,

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:08:23pm

re: #68 Unshaken Defiance

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plansbandc  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:11:36pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s so cute I almost fell over.

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:12:36pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:13:57pm

re: #69 PhillyPretzel

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:14:34pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:15:34pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:17:14pm

re: #62 BlueGrl21

We’re having a horrible battle in our school district right now. The southern part of the district….not where we are, other half…is deeply segregated by race and economics. Now the wealthy white/Asian areas are overcrowded so the district wants to send those kids to the “black” schools.

Problem is, those schools have been hit by institutional racism for 50 years. They are dilapidated, their academics are 20% lower than the new feeder schools, there is more violence, etc. There is much less money flowing in from the community. So even if the feeder school’s parents aren’t racist (plenty of them are) they are dealing with the effects of years of racism towards these black kids and neighborhoods.

I don’t know what the district is going to do. Those of us in the four high schools in the north, which are among the most diverse in the country, are keeping our heads down. It’s a disaster.

When we lived in Lexington, KY we sent one of our kids to a magnet school—it was really a school-within-a-school. By creating a program and placing it in a poorer, predominately African American neighborhood school, it allowed the school to apply for federal funding and they allowed for overall upgrades. But it didn’t change the fact that the mostly white and Asian students were internally segregated into advanced classes that most of the neighborhood kids didn’t qualify to take. I still look back on that year—we had to move for work—with mixed feelings, but at the time we thought we were doing the best thing for the kids by busing them across the city to these kinds of schools when there were adequate schools much nearer.

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freetoken  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:17:48pm

re: #60 ObserverArt

Have you not noticed that much marketing and advertising is designed to make people feel inadequate?

Yes.

But some industries are more prone at doing this, at least overtly, and others appear more subtle.

The auto industry obviously attempts to structure their products to get people to “move up”.

Real estate too. But the problem with real estate is that it is typically the single biggest expense/investment a person/couple will make, as far as material objects are concerned.

A few years ago I posted some stuff here on the documentary The Century of the Self, a series that explains all of this very well.

The additional complexities of property and location play into all of our structural social problems.

And it is these same structural social problems why Trump has his “base”.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:19:15pm

re: #72 Unshaken Defiance

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:21:27pm

Would Trump and Mnuchin be so corrupt as to conspire to short the market?

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:23:45pm

I know, it’s rhetorical.

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sagehen  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:24:07pm

re: #66 wrenchwench

Racism messes up everything. Keep working at fixing things! Thanks!

There’s a really good article in Raw Story today about previous generations’ understanding that combatting racism was an important part of how we won the cold war:
rawstory.com

from an amicus curie brief the Truman administration submitted in Brown v. Board, explaining why they felt desegregation was a national security priority:

Of the seven pages covering “the interest of the United States,” five focused on the way school segregation hurt the United States in the Cold War competition for the friendship and allegiance of non-white peoples in countries then gaining independence from colonial rule.

“The United States is trying to prove to the people of the world of every nationality, race and color, that a free democracy is the most civilized and most secure form of government yet devised by man…. The existence of discrimination against minority groups in the United States has an adverse effect upon our relations with other countries. Racial discrimination furnishes grist for the Communist propaganda mills.”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:24:32pm

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

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You and your father have been in Washington since Carter was President. You’re part of the problem.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:26:08pm

re: #78 jaunte

Would Trump and Mnuchin be so corrupt as to conspire to short the market?

He loved the ‘08 housing crash.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:27:45pm

re: #77 PhillyPretzel

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:28:14pm

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

“If you’re in a good cash position — which I’m in a good cash position today — then people like me [or the Russian mafia] would go in and buy like crazy.”

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sagehen  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:28:56pm

re: #80 sagehen

from an amicus curie brief the Truman administration submitted in Brown v. Board, explaining why they felt desegregation was a national security priority:

And this was, at the time, a bi-partisan belief:

here’s Nixon talking about civil rights in the 1960 campaign

1960 - Nixon on Civil Rights

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:31:16pm

re: #85 sagehen

And this was, at the time, a bi-partisan belief:

here’s Nixon talking about civil rights in the 1960 campaign

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Yep the only people opppsed to civil rights were far right jackasses in both parties.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:32:14pm
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:32:50pm

re: #83 Unshaken Defiance

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:33:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:35:20pm

re: #89 Barefoot Grin

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Better the kid than raging orange douche.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:40:19pm
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sagehen  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:47:48pm

He called those CEO’s at home on Sunday. The day before Christmas Eve.

Perfectly routine, I’m sure. Happens all the time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:48:39pm

re: #92 sagehen

He called those CEO’s at home on Sunday. The day before Christmas Eve.

Perfectly routine, I’m sure. Happens all the time.

hey, he had to take time out of golfing vacay in Cabo!

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:52:09pm

Rand Paul is an ass.

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lawhawk  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:56:28pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

You don’t send out this kind of letter, ever, unless you think there’s a damned good reason.

There isn’t, except that Trump’s basically nuked the financial markets by going after the Fed chair because the Fed is doing what they do - keeping inflation in check, keeping growth in check, etc., and not paying attention to the net worth of Trumpworld by the minute.

Trump, on the other hand, is watching his costs soar as the interest rates climb. He hates that because he’s got more to repay.

More than that though, the very act of trying to sack the very Fed chair that he sought in the first place is why the markets will be hinky tomorrow. Trump refused to reup Yellen because she was an Obama pick.

He picks his own, and now regrets it.

Fact is everyone Trump picks has turned out to be a shitshow for one reason or another. He picks all the best people, except when he fires them because they did something wrong - like tell him what he needs to hear instead of what he wants to hear.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:56:54pm

re: #88 PhillyPretzel

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:58:24pm

re: #88 PhillyPretzel

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lawhawk  Dec 23, 2018 • 3:59:47pm
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jaunte  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:01:51pm

Canting Senator can’t spell can’t.

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:03:42pm
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wrenchwench  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:05:24pm

re: #100 jaunte

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:07:11pm
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:07:36pm

re: #96 Unshaken Defiance

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:14:47pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:16:58pm

re: #103 PhillyPretzel

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:17:55pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:23:32pm

Does anybody wanna point out that the last time Republicans insisted the market was sound and the banks were cool, the economy proceeded to spend the next two years doing its best impression of the sinking of the Titanic?

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mmmirele  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:24:16pm

To cleanse our palates after Rand Paul’s appropriation of Festivus, here’s Seinfeld’s Festivus.

The Story of Festivus

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:24:17pm

re: #105 Unshaken Defiance

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:27:02pm

It’s appropriate that, just days before Christmas, we have the SecTreasury setting up an It’s A Wonderful Life-style run on the banks.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:30:06pm

re: #110 Targetpractice

It’s appropriate that, just days before Christmas, we have the SecTreasury setting up an It’s A Wonderful Life-style run on the banks.

Market opening should be just dandy to watch Monday.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:30:45pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:33:22pm

re: #106 The Vicious Babushka

I like this guy/gal.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:34:58pm

What really gets me about all of this is that Donny’s reelection relies largely upon the economy staying afloat. If we end up in another recession before 2020, no amount of waving immigrant children before the base is gonna save his ass. It’s a bit hard to scare people with “ILLEGALS!!!” when they’re too busy looking for jobs that aren’t there.

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mmmirele  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:35:29pm

re: #110 Targetpractice

It’s appropriate that, just days before Christmas, we have the SecTreasury setting up an It’s A Wonderful Life-style run on the banks.

I took a nap, put up that Seinfeld clip and then wondered WTF you were talking about. WTF???? Who the hell calls the heads of the six biggest banks in the US on the Sunday before Christmas to talk about liquidity AND THEN PUBLICLY DISCUSSES IT??

WHO?

The idiots in this administration, that’s who!

There were lots and lots of those discussions in September and October 2008 in the financial markets meltdown, but they weren’t made public. And given that lending was frozen nearly solid, they were justified. However, this is just seriously irresponsible.

I personally don’t think that we’re anywhere near where we were in fall 2008 but with idiots like Mnuchin sounding off, we could be pushed into something very stupid and very harmful very quickly. The guy needs a figurative knee in the nuts to shut him up.

ETA: The crazy thought occurred to me that Trump wants an economic disaster.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:38:29pm

re: #78 jaunte

Would Trump and Mnuchin be so corrupt as to conspire to short the market?

Do you think either of those assholes would pass up an opportunity to make a quick buck?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:39:31pm

re: #115 mmmirele

ETA: The crazy thought occurred to me that Trump wants an economic disaster.

It worked so well for Hoover.

OTOH it helped Hitler a whole lot.

I think I’ll just go back to bed now and pull the covers over my head.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:40:15pm

re: #94 jaunte

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:40:42pm

Happy Holidays from Maggie Haberman & David Sirota

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:41:13pm

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

One big waste of money is the millions spent protecting the entire Trump clan, including for the eldest children’s trips to kill endangered animals.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:43:39pm

re: #85 sagehen

And this was, at the time, a bi-partisan belief:

here’s Nixon talking about civil rights in the 1960 campaign

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After several years of mentoring from the notorious Hunt family, model turned lawyer Phyllis Schlafly first achieved national prominence by leading a conservative “revolt” against the party platform’s Civil Rights plank at the 1960 Republican convention.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:43:48pm
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De Kolta Chair  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:49:30pm

A cool bit of show biz trivia I learned today:

imdb link
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:50:01pm

re: #110 Targetpractice

It’s appropriate that, just days before Christmas, we have the SecTreasury setting up an It’s A Wonderful Life-style run on the banks.

That’s because Mnuchin is really Mr. Mnupotter!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:52:05pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:52:41pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

What really gets me about all of this is that Donny’s reelection relies largely upon the economy staying afloat. If we end up in another recession before 2020, no amount of waving immigrant children before the base is gonna save his ass. It’s a bit hard to scare people with “ILLEGALS!!!” when they’re too busy looking for jobs that aren’t there.

Wish I could believe that but I still have the memory of 1984 when thousands of Western PA steelworkers who lost their jobs still turned around and voted to re-elect Reagan because of 1) their racism and 2) their “pro-life” brainwashing.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:52:49pm

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Happy Holidays from Maggie Haberman & David Sirota

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NYT already campaigning for Donny and it’s not even January.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:54:11pm

I remember people telling me politics is boring, while I thought it was fascinating. Now I understand that boring (in politics) is a good thing. It means the people in charge know WTF they are doing, and that we the people can expect that tomorrow will be pretty much like today, which was like yesterday, barring emergencies and natural disasters. Despite all the RWNJ/racist carping during Obama’s administration, those eight years were really very boring, because nearly everything was working the way it should.

In contrast, politics since Trump took office has been a constant reminder that the people in charge have no fucking clue how to run this country, much less a Keurig coffee maker. Chief among those losers is the occupier of the Oval Office, who daily embarrasses the USA publicly each time he has access to Twitter, who has no plan, no agenda, no strategy. All he has are his feelings at any particular moment, which he feels qualify him to make world-changing decisions, because only he can fix.

I went to sleep last night knowing that Mattis was out and Powell was probably going to keep his job. Woke up, and Mattis has been kicked out of the White House ahead of schedule and the effin’ Treasury Secretary is conference calling heads of major banks.

Putting it mildly, this is not good. This is not how politics in a stable nation is supposed to work. This is how politics works in what were formerly called “banana republics” where the rules of law and best practice were ignored to benefit the people in charge, and fuck up everyone else.

We’re not there yet, but if the economy gets completely broken, watch out for even more dangerous shenanigans by this White House.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:54:41pm

If Americans can’t reach their consulate because it’s closed, they can probably get help from Canada.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:56:40pm

Keeping an eye on the HSI and NKE to see if they’re signaling a Monday meltdown. Right now both are very slightly up.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:56:53pm

re: #129 Single-handed sailor

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A few weeks ago, I was considering visiting Indonesia on my winter holiday. Now, I’m not so sure it’s a great idea.

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dangerman  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:57:27pm

re: #126 Joe Bacon 🌹

Wish I could believe that but I still have the memory of 1984 when thousands of Western PA steelworkers who lost their jobs still turned around and voted to re-elect Reagan because of 1) their racism and 2) their “pro-life” brainwashing.

Reagan had the “r ” after his name

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:58:10pm

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Beto O’Rourke is the new Obama. And that’s the last thing we need

Some jokes never get old…

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dangerman  Dec 23, 2018 • 4:59:07pm

re: #128 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I remember people telling me politics is boring, while I thought it was fascinating. Now I understand that boring (in politics) is a good thing. It means the people in charge know WTF they are doing, and that we the people can expect that tomorrow will be pretty much like today, which was like yesterday, barring emergencies and natural disasters. Despite all the RWNJ/racist carping during Obama’s administration, those eight years were really very boring, because nearly everything was working the way it should.

In contrast, politics since Trump took office has been a constant reminder that the people in charge have no fucking clue how to run this country, much less a Keurig coffee maker. Chief among those losers is the occupier of the Oval Office, who daily embarrasses the USA publicly each time he has access to Twitter, who has no plan, no agenda, no strategy. All he has are his feelings at any particular moment, which he feels qualify him to make world-changing decisions, because only he can fix.

I went to sleep last night knowing that Mattis was out and Powell was probably going to keep his job. Woke up, and Mattis has been kicked out of the White House ahead of schedule and the effin’ Treasury Secretary is conference calling heads of major banks.

Putting it mildly, this is not good. This is not how politics in a stable nation is supposed to work. This is how politics works in what were formerly called “banana republics” where the rules of law and best practice were ignored to benefit the people in charge, and fuck up everyone else.

We’re not there yet, but if the economy gets completely broken, watch out for even more dangerous shenanigans by this White House.

Trump is interest in only two things
-his perceived self image
-tweeting

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:00:56pm

re: #130 Joe Bacon 🌹

Keeping an eye on the HSI and NKE to see if they’re signaling a Monday meltdown. Right now both are very slightly up.

It’s a holiday.

12/24/2018 Monday Emperor’s Birthday OBS Tokyo Stock Exchange Japan

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:01:57pm

How Russian Money helped save Trump’s Business. Long, but worth reading to the end!

“Our broader concern is the extent to which the Trump Organization has received an influx of foreign sources of money over the years, and if that continues to compromise the president,” said one Capitol Hill staffer. He added that this wouldn’t be an issue if Trump had followed precedent and divested himself of his business holdings, as previous presidents have.

foreignpolicy.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:02:16pm

Here we go. Nikkei down 226.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:02:33pm

re: #128 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I remember people telling me politics is boring, while I thought it was fascinating. Now I understand that boring (in politics) is a good thing. It means the people in charge know WTF they are doing, and that we the people can expect that tomorrow will be pretty much like today, which was like yesterday, barring emergencies and natural disasters. Despite all the RWNJ/racist carping during Obama’s administration, those eight years were really very boring, because nearly everything was working the way it should.

In contrast, politics since Trump took office has been a constant reminder that the people in charge have no fucking clue how to run this country, much less a Keurig coffee maker. Chief among those losers is the occupier of the Oval Office, who daily embarrasses the USA publicly each time he has access to Twitter, who has no plan, no agenda, no strategy. All he has are his feelings at any particular moment, which he feels qualify him to make world-changing decisions, because only he can fix.

I went to sleep last night knowing that Mattis was out and Powell was probably going to keep his job. Woke up, and Mattis has been kicked out of the White House ahead of schedule and the effin’ Treasury Secretary is conference calling heads of major banks.

Putting it mildly, this is not good. This is not how politics in a stable nation is supposed to work. This is how politics works in what were formerly called “banana republics” where the rules of law and best practice were ignored to benefit the people in charge, and fuck up everyone else.

We’re not there yet, but if the economy gets completely broken, watch out for even more dangerous shenanigans by this White House.

There’s a reason we called him “No Drama Obama.” In 8 years, as the GOP lost their minds on an hourly basis, the White House stood firm and we knew that if the answers weren’t immediately forthcoming we’d soon have them.

Now? Now we have to wait for White House staff leaks to learn just how fucked we all really are because the people in charge swear the sun rises in the west.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:05:58pm

Took me several seconds to get this.

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ObserverArt  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:06:06pm

Happy W…sports talk!

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:07:32pm

re: #139 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Yep. Hurricanes have been the old Hartford Whalers for a while now. Won the Cup in 2006.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:14:57pm

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

I’d love another eight years of President Obama. Beto is fine with me. Who the hell is Sirota’s audience? President Obama is still popular among Democrats.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:15:35pm

re: #142 Patricia Kayden

President Obama is still popular among Republicans, they’ll just never admit it.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:16:40pm
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dangerman  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:17:29pm

re: #143 Ace Rothstein

President Obama is still popular among Republicans, they’ll just never admit it.

Believe it
A host of R’s silently wish for those days

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:17:46pm

re: #142 Patricia Kayden

I’d love another eight years of President Obama. Beto is fine with me. Who the hell is Sirota’s audience? President Obama is still popular among Democrats.

Sirota is a hard core Berniebot and Jillshill.

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ObserverArt  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:21:28pm

re: #146 Joe Bacon 🌹

Sirota is a hard core Berniebot and Jillshill.

…and a major league asshole.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:21:53pm

re: #146 Joe Bacon 🌹

Sirota is a hard core Berniebot and Jillshill.

And his audience are Bros who are preparing for a rerun of “BernieOrBust.”

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:24:22pm
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Very Cool Very Legal Ghost Flea  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:24:42pm

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Very Cool Very Legal Ghost Flea  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:27:27pm

re: #149 Patricia Kayden

I still vote that this thing under Trump isn’t the swamp anymore, it’s the hog lagoon.

Swamps are rich diverse ecosystems that have a necessary role within the larger natural world.

This…is a massive hole full of excrement that’s been abandoned by profiteers, knowing that it’s going to sicken people and poison soil and water.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:28:24pm

re: #145 dangerman

Believe it
A host of R’s silently wish for those days

Actually the RepubliKKKlans wish for the days when they could attack the black man in the White House 24/7. Hating him is what RepubliKKKlans lived for.

Plenty of them are hoping for Booker so they can go back to 24/7 race bating. And they would really trash Kamala Harris if she got the nod because it opens the door for their racist and sexist crap.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:30:28pm
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Belafon  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:33:54pm

re: #115 mmmirele

Part of the start of the Great Depression was one guy telling everyone around that the bank didn’t have their money, and the people running to the bank to get it out.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:34:34pm

re: #140 ObserverArt

Happy W…sports talk!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:34:52pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

Trump has been taking credit for the vibrant economy Obama created for us, but that momentum has been lost and the economy is threatening to tank. Now Trump is blaming everyone besides himself and his crack-addled “policies” for it.

Also utterly predictable.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:35:40pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

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Not to worry, we’ll be assured by the same folks who spent 8 years of Obama’s admin insisting that the market would crash “any moment” that we were “due” for another recession and thus this is in no way Trump’s fault. “President’s have no control over the economy,” say the people who once accused Obama of causing run on the market if he sneezed.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:36:33pm

re: #142 Patricia Kayden

I’d love another eight years of President Obama. Beto is fine with me. Who the hell is Sirota’s audience? President Obama is still popular among Democrats.

Sirota is an ass. Obama was fine. Sirota is nothing but a Bernie ass licker who attacks everyone who threatens Bernie’s chances. What has Bernie actually accomplished in now five presidents in Washington?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:36:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:37:21pm

re: #159 Charles Johnson

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They’re stupid people.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:39:26pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:40:35pm

re: #159 Charles Johnson

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That’s the one the wingnuts will go with, while Trump’s yes men will be spouting this instead:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:41:26pm

re: #141 Ace Rothstein

Yep. Hurricanes have been the old Hartford Whalers for a while now. Won the Cup in 2006.

Flukes, new colors and all, the retro logo is a big improvement over the op-art blob the ‘Canes had been using:

Original Whalers logo:

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plansbandc  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:42:15pm

Dude’s retirement will be buh bye when the stock market crashes. I’ve been worrying about how we will survive when the Republicans kill our health care, but really it isn’t going to matter anyway when the stock market crashes. We will have nothing to live on. Dude is basically disabled at this point, so yeah. Jesus Christ.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:42:16pm

re: #162 Targetpractice

That’s the one the wingnuts will go with, while Trump’s yes men will be spouting this instead:

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Trumpers don’t have any room to lecture about delusional hatred.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:46:41pm

re: #162 Targetpractice

That’s the one the wingnuts will go with, while Trump’s yes men will be spouting this instead:

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Weird, that one never appeared in my TweetDeck mentions, and I hadn’t blocked it yet. Not that I’m complaining.

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ObserverArt  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:46:59pm

re: #156 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Trump has been taking credit for the vibrant economy Obama created for us, but that momentum has been lost and the economy is threatening to tank. Now Trump is blaming everyone besides himself and his crack-addled “policies” for it.

Also utterly predictable.

Trump has given a hell of a display at his total lack of political (and other) knowledge and his utter lack of character these past two weeks.

He has got to be costing the Republican congress members support at home.

This holiday break could be a good time for them to consider their futures, the country’s future and how much more gamble they are going to take with it all before they pull the plug.

We all hoped the Mueller investigation brings Trump down. We may not even need it as Trump is doing a great job of doing it to himself.

That is not to say call off the investigations…hell no. Just release more and more to pressure Trump. That pressure is causing him to make these stupid moves.

There has been some talk Mueller could wrap up in February with his report. Things are closing in more and more.

Give ‘em enough rope!

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:47:08pm

Basically Donny is gonna be in the foreground, screaming that businesses are betraying him by cutting jobs, hours, and wages when he gave them such a big tax cut. Meanwhile, Mnunchin, Ross, and Kudlow will be out there, trying to stop the rout by assuring folks that this is a “correction” and not a recession, that the “fundamentals of the economy are sound,” and things will level out “soon.”

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:51:43pm

Nothing to see here. Just move along, folks.

FinCEN are the people who are supposed to ensure the security of the financial system, and who are “very concerned” about mechanisms like Bitcoin or Monero that allow financial transactions to be private and executable outside the traditional financial system.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:55:08pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

Basically Donny is gonna be in the foreground, screaming that businesses are betraying him by cutting jobs, hours, and wages when he gave them such a big tax cut. Meanwhile, Mnunchin, Ross, and Kudlow will be out there, trying to stop the rout by assuring folks that this is a “correction” and not a recession, that the “fundamentals of the economy are sound,” and things will level out “soon.”

There are quite a few financial experts, and not just the usual doomsayers and goldbugs, that have been predicting a recession for months now. All it would take to bring the house of cards is some seemingly inconsequential event, say, like the president wishing he could fire the Fed chair or the Treasury Secretary conference calling major bank bosses on the Sunday before Christmas.

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ObserverArt  Dec 23, 2018 • 5:56:45pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

Basically Donny is gonna be in the foreground, screaming that businesses are betraying him by cutting jobs, hours, and wages when he gave them such a big tax cut. Meanwhile, Mnunchin, Ross, and Kudlow will be out there, trying to stop the rout by assuring folks that this is a “correction” and not a recession, that the “fundamentals of the economy are sound,” and things will level out “soon.”

That might have worked in the somewhat distant past. We are still real close to 2008 to not have people scared about what is going on. The memories are too fresh and everyone knows it was Republicans then as now.

Trump’s base is not the financial power of the Republican party…the King Makers.

Those folks have real power ($$$$) and if they start chewing on Senators and threatening their “resources” for runs in 2020 those Senators have to choose money and future over Trump.

At the very least there will be someone in the party running against Trump.

And someone like Kasich could still try an independent run.

It has got be getting harder and harder to make your future Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:00:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:02:22pm

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

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The evidence has been there all along.

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Belafon  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:05:07pm
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lawhawk  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:08:29pm

Everyone in the markets knows that when the President says or does something incredibly dumb, it will rattle the markets.

Contemplating sacking the fed chair because he approved the interest rate hikes is enough to rattle the markets already spooked by an ongoing correction.

But Mnuchin’s letter about liquidity? That’s enough to cause seizures by Wall Street execs, because you wouldn’t be asking about liquidity unless you were concerned about liquidity due to an event you expect to occur.

What is the event you expect to occur? Trump’s words having a negative effect, causing a mass outflow from the markets and seeking safer refuges - cash.

Trump and his fucknut advisers are rushing headlong into a financial crisis, because a recession wouldn’t be bad enough for these fuckers.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:10:51pm

Hang Seng open and it’s down 262.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:14:32pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:14:37pm

re: #175 lawhawk

Everyone in the markets knows that when the President says or does something incredibly dumb, it will rattle the markets.

Contemplating sacking the fed chair because he approved the interest rate hikes is enough to rattle the markets already spooked by an ongoing correction.

But Mnuchin’s letter about liquidity? That’s enough to cause seizures by Wall Street execs, because you wouldn’t be asking about liquidity unless you were concerned about liquidity due to an event you expect to occur.

What is the event you expect to occur? Trump’s words having a negative effect, causing a mass outflow from the markets and seeking safer refuges - cash.

Trump and his fucknut advisers are rushing headlong into a financial crisis, because a recession wouldn’t be bad enough for these fuckers.

And the debt ceiling is roughly 3 months away. We’re in the midst of a shutdown that could last weeks of that, with a very unstable man at the helm who will look for any opportunity to get his vanity project funded and is totally divorced from the reality of his situation.

We’re all fucked.

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mmmirele  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:14:43pm

Sharing this Tweet. Read the picture in the article. I am completely gobsmacked. Basically, Greenville wanted to pass a law forcing Black women to take jobs because there weren’t enough cooks and laundresses available to the white folk.

I’m trying to find out if the ordinance was passed, but I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that was the case.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:16:23pm

re: #177 Charles Johnson

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All that’s happening is the filter is being removed.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:16:45pm

Inside Bernie-world’s war on Beto O’Rourke

As the Texas congressman’s star rises, Sanders supporters turn up the heat: “Reading Karl Marx is cool. Doing a livestream while you’re doing your laundry is a gimmick.”

Karl Marx. Yeah, that’s the ticket here in Texas.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:17:57pm

re: #178 Targetpractice

And the debt ceiling is roughly 3 months away. We’re in the midst of a shutdown that could last weeks of that, with a very unstable man at the helm who will look for any opportunity to get his vanity project funded and is totally divorced from the reality of his situation.

We’re all fucked.

I’ve been ringing the alarm on the debt ceiling! Trump is enough of an ass to force default and he does not care if Wall Street melts. Knowing him, he’s probably made moves to short the US Debt…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:20:20pm

re: #181 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Inside Bernie-world’s war on Beto O’Rourke

Karl Marx. Yeah, that’s the ticket here in Texas.

Marx? Yeah that’s the ticket. God they’re clueless.

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dangerman  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:21:34pm

re: #152 Joe Bacon 🌹

Actually the RepubliKKKlans wish for the days when they could attack the black man in the White House 24/7. Hating him is what RepubliKKKlans lived for.

Plenty of them are hoping for Booker so they can go back to 24/7 race bating. And they would really trash Kamala Harris if she got the nod because it opens the door for their racist and sexist crap.

Sure..that segment
There’s another that knows that supporting an R publicly and no matter what is in fact costing them dearly personally

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:21:48pm

Politics is about communication. Seems to be a lot of jealousy in Camp Bernie about Beto being an effective communicator.

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:25:27pm

re: #181 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“…The missing context: O’Rourke didn’t take money from corporate political action committees, and the donations attributed to the oil and gas business include both a handful from executives and many others from lower-level employees of his home state’s flagship industry. Altogether, they still account for a little more than half of one percent of all of the money he raised for the election.

Anyone paying the least bit of attention to this fight should be angry at Sirota for this tremendously dishonest manipulation.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:27:47pm

Attacking Beto as the next Obama though? Does Sirota realize a lot us are happy with what Obama accomplished? I have my disappointments sure but being the most progressive President ever on lgbt issues, DACA, ACA, etc mean more to me than some pipe dream socialist stuff which tbh isn’t the answer. Need I remind Sirota that Bernie and Trump aren’t too different on trade and Trump’s idiocy on trade hurts us.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:29:01pm

re: #186 jaunte

Anyone paying the least bit of attention to this fight should be angry at Sirota for this tremendously dishonest manipulation.

Sirota is a hack but he’s not stupid. He sees a threat to Bernie. Someone who actually communicates with young people rather than promising them the moon.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:31:17pm

TBH I think Bernie’s free college for all sounds great on paper until you realize he doesn’t seem to have anything to say of substance about special education.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:33:17pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:36:52pm

Truth in labeling:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:46:09pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:49:47pm
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Very Cool Very Legal Ghost Flea  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:55:36pm

re: #174 Belafon

No seriously I am obsessed with this tap dancing around the word fence.

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:57:13pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 6:58:14pm

re: #195 jaunte

See what happens when Republicans pack the court?

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:00:14pm

re: #194 Very Cool Very Legal Ghost Flea

No seriously I am obsessed with this tap dancing around the word fence.

IT’S A SEMI-PERMEABLE MEMBRANE!!!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:00:19pm

re: #195 jaunte

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rt.com is my bet.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:02:14pm

It’s true. I’m starting to see some revisionist memes and posts from some of my Leftist friends on Facebook, calling Obama, “The Deporter in Chief,” and parroting the same Right Wing talking point, “Obama started the policy of separating immigrant children from their families.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:05:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:07:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:08:55pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:10:20pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:16:28pm

re: #199 DodgerFan1988

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It’s true. I’m starting to see some revisionist memes and posts from some of my Leftist friends on Facebook, calling Obama, “The Deporter in Chief,” and parroting the same Right Wing talking point, “Obama started the policy of separating immigrant children from their families.”

This goes to this very handy and popular diagram.

Circle of Derp
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:17:51pm

Hang Seng down less than a percent, that’s damn near a rally. Dow futures up 100, let’s see how that enthusiasm holds after Trump’s morning shit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:18:13pm

I hate how the U.S. has this asinine system where we constantly have to fight to keep the government open.

Other countries have figured out how to avoid this, why can’t we?

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mmmirele  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:18:36pm

re: #198 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

rt.com is my bet.

I was wondering if it was 1MDB (1Malaysia Development Berhad) a sovereign wealth fund of Malaysia which was basically looted by the last prime minister and his buddies. It’s tangled up in some serious crazy. Goldman Sachs made $600 million in selling 1MBD securities and now the current Malaysian government wants that money back, with penalties and interest.

If it’s not 1MDB, perhaps it’s another country’s sovereign wealth fund? I know Qatar has been on the bad list and it has a sovereign wealth fund (Qatar Investment Authority). Just completely speculating here.

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Very Cool Very Legal Ghost Flea  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:21:47pm

re: #197 goddamnedfrank

The part of the semantic game I love is there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the word “fence.” It doesn’t denote anything specific about the design of the barrier, and even the connotational model people having in their head…a wire fence or a wood slatted fence…shouldn’t detract from the fact a barrier can be a fence and yet be imposing and hard to breach.

But Trump’s locked himself in with bigger and stupider invocations of a wall, and front-loaded that word with significance; he’s described the current (steel slat fence) along border sections as inadequate; and he’s promised his goons something More Big and symbolically More Powerful and Lethal.

Were he a normal business person talking to sane people, he could say fence and nobody would blink because, um, words are flexible and changes to building projects happen.

But this is a multilevel marketing presidency, so realistic projections are the enemy. He has to keep upselling to keep his down-line engaged, and sealing the border is not really about the border but about all the magical-thinking permutations of what will be “solved.” So…he can’t just call it a fence. eta: (The most important sentences no less!) He has to invent language to make the new plan sound like ANYTHING other than what’s currently there, because his entire MLM gambit is rooted in how his is More and Better.. It has to be a Fence Plus.

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BigPapa  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:21:48pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:22:52pm

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

I hate how the U.S. has this asinine system where we constantly have to fight to keep the government open.

Other countries have figured out how to avoid this, why can’t we?

This shutdown stuff didn’t happen in the past. It started to become popular when we started to see the big fights over taxation at the end of Reagan into Bush. Then of course they became a “tool” during Clinton.

And here we are.

I blame trickle down thinking for starting it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:23:24pm
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dangerman  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:25:51pm

re: #194 Very Cool Very Legal Ghost Flea

No seriously I am obsessed with this tap dancing around the word fence.

Why? They’ve been doing it for 3+ years with the word “lie”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:28:04pm

re: #210 ObserverArt

This shutdown stuff didn’t happen in the past. It started to become popular when we started to see the big fights over taxation at the end of Reagan into Bush. Then of course they became a “tool” during Clinton.

And here we are.

I blame trickle down thinking for starting it.

These shutdowns started under Carter as the Hyde amendment was being fought. House passed, Ed Brooke of Massachusetts blocked it in the Senate and the 1978 shutdown went for 11 days. Of course this was going on when I just got hired at the Chicago SSA Payment Center…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:28:40pm

heh

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BigPapa  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:30:17pm

This Mnuchin thing is really weird. Not a good weird.

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Very Cool Very Legal Ghost Flea  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:31:22pm

re: #212 dangerman

Why? They’ve been doing it for 3+ years with the word “lie”

Dodging the word “lie” is calculating, underhanding, cynical…but makes Machiavellian sense in that it’s a word that’s perjorative, harsh, and difficult to retract.

Because this particular version of euphemism is super funny because there shouldn’t be any stakes at all.

It’s like watching Wile E Coyote get wrecked by his own trap, but with language instead of ACME pulleys and levers.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:33:00pm

The Right are the real Snowflakes.

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:45:03pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:49:18pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:51:01pm

Breakfast brunch with kids was great.

Now drinking tequila with housemates.

what we say in Brooklyn today.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 23, 2018 • 7:59:17pm

Curiously silent- Larry Kudlow.

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ObserverArt  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:01:51pm

re: #221 Ace Rothstein

Curiously silent- Larry Kudlow.

I don’t like Kudlow, but I have a feeling he is smart enough to know this is all crazy.

He may have run out of trying to excuse Trump and is in hiding somewhere hoping it all passes.

Maybe he is composing a resignation letter…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:06:09pm

Thread

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:16:47pm

Thank you retired cynic for your upding on #221, as that puts me at 50,000 karma. Where’s my set of steak knives?

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:17:21pm

re: #224 Ace Rothstein

Thank you retired cynic for your upding on #221, as that puts me at 50,000 karma. Where’s my set of steak knives?

Hah! You are welcome!

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:20:21pm

re: #225 retired cynic

Sooooo….where are my steak knives?

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:21:53pm

re: #226 Ace Rothstein

Sooooo….where are my steak knives?

Don’t look at me! I’m just a youngster, working on 21,000! You’re the senior fellow here!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:23:13pm

re: #204 ObserverArt

This goes to this very handy and popular diagram.

I think the Russians are playing both ends against the middle. We very well could see some leftists caught up in the fallout from the Mueller investigation.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:28:33pm

re: #228 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think the Russians are playing both ends against the middle. We very well could see some leftists caught up in the fallout from the Mueller investigation.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Mueller nails Jill Stein and Tad Devine.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:29:05pm
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freetoken  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:31:12pm

And now, something special, a walk down memory lane to 1974, with a captured reel-to-reel tape, an in-store Christmas music program, from K-Mart, complete with announcements.

You can now relive those blue-light memories:

Kmart In-Store Music: Christmas 1974 (reupload/recreation)

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freetoken  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:33:52pm

I remember when my local Kresge’s closed because they turned the company into Kmart and built a brand new, huge, store on the outskirts of town.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:34:20pm

re: #231 freetoken

And now, something special, a walk down memory lane to 1974, with a captured reel-to-reel tape, an in-store Christmas music program, from K-Mart, complete with announcements.

You can now relive those blue-light memories:

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K-mart Manager Trainee Blues - Jon Carter - Rock 103

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:36:23pm

re: #224 Ace Rothstein

Thank you retired cynic for your upding on #221, as that puts me at 50,000 karma. Where’s my set of steak knives?

Now you are due for the big tune up. 50,000 miles.

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freetoken  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:36:29pm

The decades have gone by all too quickly.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:38:08pm

re: #235 freetoken

The decades have gone by all too quickly.

Just ask my Dad. Christmas dinner tonight at a nice place. His 90th Christmas. We are very blessed.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:45:04pm

re: #235 freetoken

The decades have gone by all too quickly.

Yes.

45th class reunion a couple months ago. 365 of us graduated now less than 60 are still alive. Was a shock when a classmate sent me the list of those still alive…

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:46:15pm

re: #237 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes.

45th class reunion a couple months ago. 365 of us graduated now less than 60 are still alive. Was a shock when a classmate sent me the list of those still alive…

I wonder how to find out how many of my classmates are left. 52 years!

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 23, 2018 • 8:55:27pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:08:33pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:10:16pm

“I’m not meltdown. You’re the meltdown.”

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:10:58pm

Good to know.

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:14:22pm

re: #243 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I don’t even want to look at his face. I sure don’t want to hear his voice say words like that.

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fern01  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:16:09pm

re: #52 Patricia Kayden

MAGA math is hard

They really are seriously dumb. No wonder they voted for trump.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:16:50pm

re: #243 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

No.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:23:06pm

re: #246 Ace Rothstein

No.

?

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:23:31pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The whole Trump presidency is nuts so there’s that.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:24:48pm

re: #247 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

?

I think he meant: “I won’t watch that and you can’t make me!”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:25:54pm

re: #249 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think he meant: “I won’t watch that and you can’t make me!”

Cthulhu forbid.

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Belafon  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:27:10pm

Another thought on Mnunchin’s phone calls, if they are real: he and Trump have no clue how the markets work - obviously - and think that the banks are be all and end all of the system.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:27:43pm

re: #243 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I wonder if the pastor has changed his thinking since May. I’m sure he’s gotten a lot of pushback since then.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:28:52pm

re: #247 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

?

Executing gays or anyone else for that matter. Just no.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:33:07pm

re: #251 Belafon

Another thought on Mnunchin’s phone calls, if they are real: he and Trump have no clue how the markets work - obviously - and think that the banks are be all and end all of the system.

This is not an implausible statement.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:36:55pm

re: #243 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“Sir, do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior, Cthulhu?”

(h/t Lidane)

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:38:05pm

re: #255 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

eek

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:41:53pm

Btw, I’ll be posting Lord Cthulhu’s annual Christmas message Tuesday night, so stay tuned.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:47:21pm

Listen, I’m not even into sports at all except for women’s soccer every four years, but I absolutely believe this shit.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 9:54:27pm

re: #243 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

22-year-old Christian preacher clarifies that he wants gays executed ‘humanely’

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Humane execution is very much a modern idea.

How much kiddie porn is on his computer.

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 10:00:37pm

re: #223 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Thread

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That’s what we have to look forward to again next year, another round of “Holier than thou” from the Bros, where Bernie is supposedly the exemplar of progressivism…unless you ask him about gun rights, defense spending, or his various war votes in the 90s.

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Teukka  Dec 23, 2018 • 10:04:26pm

re: #259 Joe Bacon 🌹

How much kiddie porn is on his computer.

“It’s the santanic nazzi comunist illuminaty new world auger henchmen framing a man of Cod to macke people stopp lystening!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2018 • 10:17:36pm

re: #259 Joe Bacon 🌹

How much kiddie porn is on his computer.

I suspect gay porn.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 23, 2018 • 10:17:53pm

Favorite dad joke:

Every letter counts:
A Minneapolis couple decided to go to Florida to thaw out during a particularly icy winter. They planned to stay at the same hotel where they spent their honeymoon 20 years earlier. Because of hectic schedules, it was difficult to coordinate their travel schedules. So, the husband left Minnesota and flew to Florida on Thursday, with his wife flying down the following day. The husband checked into the hotel. There was
a computer in his room, so he decided to send an email to his wife. However, he accidentally left out one letter in her email address, and without realizing his error, sent the email.
Meanwhile, somewhere in Houston, a widow had just returned home from her husband’s funeral. He was a minister who was called home to glory following a heart attack. The widow decided to check her email expecting messages from relatives
and friends. After reading the first message, she screamed and fainted. The widow’s son rushed into the room, found his mother on the floor, and saw the computer screen which read:

To: My Loving Wife
Subject: I’ve Arrived
Date: October 16, 2004

I know you’re surprised to hear from me. They have computers here now and you are allowed to send emails to your loved ones. I’ve just arrived and have been checked in. I see that everything has been prepared for your arrival tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing you then! Hope your journey is as uneventful as mine was.

P.S. Sure is freaking hot down here!

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 10:23:28pm

We had a discussion about this last night.

“I’ve been around here long enough to remember in February, when the Democrats came forward and said we will give you $25 billion for border security in exchange for a pathway to citizenship for DACA,” she recalled.

Gaetz said Republicans aren’t willing to make a “deal” that gives amnesty for those children of immigrants who were forcibly brought to the United States as children.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 23, 2018 • 10:25:20pm

re: #264 Targetpractice

Hasn’t he had another DUI incident yet?

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Targetpractice  Dec 23, 2018 • 10:26:25pm

re: #265 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hasn’t he had another DUI incident yet?

Not sure, but he’s definitely on something if he thinks he or his compatriots have any sort of leverage in this shutdown.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 23, 2018 • 10:33:43pm

re: #242 goddamnedfrank

Copy editors used to do this routinely, especially at the major newspapers. Reporters would get their copy handed back to them with “CQ” besides any quote, name, figure, date, or other fact the editor wanted double checked. That was when a daily newspaper or broadcast outfit would have at most four publication deadlines a day. Since the advent of all news, all the time, some outfits have become lax in such quality control. And “citizen journalists” with their own blogs generally don’t even bother. Dim Jim is a prime example.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 23, 2018 • 10:55:49pm

Majipoor?

A new class of Super-Earths formed from high-temperature condensates: HD219134 b, 55 Cnc e, WASP-47 e

…Besides HD 219134 b, we demonstrate that 55 Cnc e and WASP-47 e are similar candidates of a new Super-Earth class that have no core and are rich in Ca and Al minerals which are among the first solids that condense from a cooling proto-planetary disc. Planets of this class have densities 10-20% lower than Earth-like compositions and may have very different interior dynamics, outgassing histories and magnetic fields compared to the majority of Super-Earths.

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unproven innocence  Dec 23, 2018 • 10:56:38pm

Interesting times— The two Koreas planning to co-host 2032 Olympic games.

🇰🇷🇰🇵South Korea approves $3.5bn in funding to cohost Olympics | Al Jazeera English

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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2018 • 10:59:03pm

re: #255 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“Sir, do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior, Cthulhu?”

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(h/t Lidane)

I like your take. :)

Btw, picture is of a sculpture/diorama at Ocean Undersea Gardens in Newport, Oregon. You can see it in perspective on the webpage.

marinersquare.com

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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2018 • 11:02:50pm

re: #237 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes.

45th class reunion a couple months ago. 365 of us graduated now less than 60 are still alive. Was a shock when a classmate sent me the list of those still alive…

How true. I bumped into a webpage for my high school class of 1972. And spent a long time looking through all the names of those who had died. Many of them I had not seen since graduation in June 1972. I guess that they will be forever young in my mind.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 23, 2018 • 11:07:12pm

re: #268 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Majipoor?

A new class of Super-Earths formed from high-temperature condensates: HD219134 b, 55 Cnc e, WASP-47 e

Sounds more like super Luna than super Earth if it has no core.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 23, 2018 • 11:27:37pm

re: #8 Single-handed sailor

Just imagine if Democrats were doing any of this shit. Any of it

I had to stop doing that even before the election, it was making me scream…

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austin_blue  Dec 23, 2018 • 11:32:19pm

re: #266 Targetpractice

Not sure, but he’s definitely on something if he thinks he or his compatriots have any sort of leverage in this shutdown.

It seems to be that the Republicans, like Gaetz, think that they have some kind leverage after the Dems take the House on January 3rd. That’s odd, to say the least, since they have had the power of the purse over the last few years. They have to know that Pelosi is going to come in swinging with both fists, and that the new House will pass a budget and send it to the Senate within two or three days.

It may have dollars for border security, but it will have nothing for the wall. It will re-fund Planned Parenthood, have funds to expand Medicare, and include a tax increase on the top 1% to fund the ACA rebates. That is what they ran on, and won on.

If they are smart, they will also include funds to continue our support for the Kurds in Syria and Iraq. This capitulation to Erdogan is beyond the pale for our staunchest allies of the past 15 years in the Middle East (and yes, that includes Israel). It only makes the Turks, Iranis, Russians, and Assad’s happy people. You cannot win in geopolitics by abandoning your fiercest allies.

I’m no fan of the continuing conflict in Syria and Iraq, but if Drumpf thinks ISIS has been defeated, he should attend funerals in Strasbourg. It’s an ideology, not an army.

Drumpf’s shutdown will have no leverage after that budget is sent to the Senate.

Hell, he has no leverage now, but nobody in the WH has the guts to tell that disaster of a POTUS that he’s a reeking bag of puss, no longer in control of the purse strings of Government.

Sorry, rant off. I’m off to bed.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 23, 2018 • 11:32:32pm

re: #71 jaunte

Like I said yesterday, if Trump fires Powell, you’re gonna see the markets go into an almost apocalyptic meltdown.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 23, 2018 • 11:33:36pm

re: #92 sagehen

He called those CEO’s at home on Sunday. The day before Christmas Eve.

Perfectly routine, I’m sure. Happens all the time.

They never quit working, that is why they are so rich.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 23, 2018 • 11:36:23pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

What really gets me about all of this is that Donny’s reelection relies largely upon the economy staying afloat. If we end up in another recession before 2020, no amount of waving immigrant children before the base is gonna save his ass. It’s a bit hard to scare people with “ILLEGALS!!!” when they’re too busy looking for jobs that aren’t there.

Oh, but remember, those “ILLEGALS!!!” came and took all those jobs, remember?

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BigPapa  Dec 23, 2018 • 11:37:08pm

Seems like somebody hacked Rand Paul’s Twitter account

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 23, 2018 • 11:39:07pm

re: #128 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I remember people telling me politics is boring, while I thought it was fascinating. Now I understand that boring (in politics) is a good thing. It means the people in charge know WTF they are doing, and that we the people can expect that tomorrow will be pretty much like today, which was like yesterday, barring emergencies and natural disasters.

Which is why the press did so much to facilitate Trump becoming President and still highlights his exploits in such great but irrelevant detail. It keeps readers and viewers glued to their sets/screens.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 23, 2018 • 11:43:31pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Attacking Beto as the next Obama though? Does Sirota realize a lot us are happy with what Obama accomplished? I have my disappointments sure but being the most progressive President ever on lgbt issues, DACA, ACA, etc mean more to me than some pipe dream socialist stuff which tbh isn’t the answer. Need I remind Sirota that Bernie and Trump aren’t too different on trade and Trump’s idiocy on trade hurts us.

He needs to get racists to see O’Rourke as black so it will trigger their reflexes.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 12:10:16am

duplicate comment

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 24, 2018 • 12:22:52am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 12:31:42am

re: #282 Single-handed sailor

Yep, seems like Anak Krakatau generated an underwater run-out landslide which triggered the tsunami.

There’s a hypothesis that a submarine earthquake on a known seismic fault off the coast of southwest Ireland may have triggered a tsunami which inundated the area around the Bristol Channel in 1607. Of course, it could’ve just been a storm surge as well to be fair - unfortunately, records from that era are not exactly well-known for their scientific accuracy.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 12:41:39am

Font puns

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 24, 2018 • 12:47:58am

re: #284 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Font puns

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His second post about cats made me think of a new font ‘Furry Sans’.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 1:02:47am

re: #252 Patricia Kayden

I wonder if the pastor has changed his thinking since May. I’m sure he’s gotten a lot of pushback since then.

No he hasn’t. Matt Powell wants everyone executed who doesn’t follow the Bible exactly (except for the parts he doesn’t wnat to keep): atheists, feminists, liberals, &c.

Matt Powell is trying to use YouTube to leverage a televangelist run.

Despite overt hate speech and calling for the death of various people, YouTube won’t suspend him (citing freedom of speech and freedom of religion).

If I had a YouTube channel and called for genocide, I’d be suspended and all my videos removed.

Anyone who identifies as Christian and then says the same thing is permitted.

The latest example of the Christian parade of genocidal lust from Matt Powell, a chat about his anti-science “movie” which claims Christianity is under attack (YouTube video) from Utah Outcasts (caution for coarse language, 12:31):

Yes, We Already Know Matt Powell’s “Science Falsely So Called” is Out

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 24, 2018 • 1:08:39am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 1:27:47am

Futures ugly this AM
S&P 500: -61.25 (-2.46%)
DOW: -499.00 (-2.17%)
Nasdaq: -227.75 (-3.60%)

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 24, 2018 • 1:34:10am
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 24, 2018 • 2:37:43am

49ers suck,

but not as bad as Arizona.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 24, 2018 • 2:42:01am

This Thread is a day old but Holy Shit!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 3:06:31am

re: #284 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Font puns

Font fight (3:00, College Humor)

Font Fight!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 3:34:10am

re: #292 Anymouse 🌹

That was pretty good.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 3:42:49am
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 24, 2018 • 3:49:23am
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 24, 2018 • 3:51:49am

re: #294 Anymouse 🌹

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My carry-on bag is also my ammo bag when I go shooting. Needless to say, a residue wipe of my bag guarantees the the rubber glove testicle inspection.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 3:58:02am

re: #296 Single-handed sailor

My carry-on bag is also my ammo bag when I go shooting. Needless to say, a residue wipe of my bag guarantees the the rubber glove testicle inspection.

Might save you some trouble to buy another bag.

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Teukka  Dec 24, 2018 • 4:04:31am

#18-3071
I have high hopes for this number. Maybe make it go viral?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 4:08:44am

I want to thank the LGF crew for 124,760 upfists of karma on this Christmas Eve.

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Teukka  Dec 24, 2018 • 4:44:17am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 4:49:10am

re: #300 Teukka

What’s #18-3071?

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Teukka  Dec 24, 2018 • 4:55:47am

re: #301 Dr Lizardo

What’s #18-3071?

[Sealed] vs. [Sealed]
Mystery case involving Bob’s crew and a state-owned bank.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 24, 2018 • 4:57:01am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 4:59:26am

re: #302 Teukka

[Sealed] vs. [Sealed]
Mystery case involving Bob’s crew and a state-owned bank.

Ah, OK. Yeah, that’s been generating quite the buzz as of late.

I didn’t know it was a state-owned bank….I just read that it was being described as a “state-owned company”. Granted, there isn’t too much here in the former East Bloc that’s still state-owned (in the case of Czech Republic, about the only thing still owned by the state is Czech Railways and part of ČEZ, an energy company) but it’s most likely one of the Russian banks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 4:59:52am
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Teukka  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:07:01am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

Ah, OK. Yeah, that’s been generating quite the buzz as of late.

I didn’t know it was a state-owned bank….I just read that it was being described as a “state-owned company”. Granted, there isn’t too much here in the former East Bloc that’s still state-owned (in the case of Czech Republic, about the only thing still owned by the state is Czech Railways and part of ČEZ, an energy company) but it’s most likely one of the Russian banks.

State-owned company, yes… I just assumed it was a bank.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:12:32am

re: #286 Anymouse 🌹

I’m sorry to hear that. He’s kind of going to be filled with such homicidal rage. But I assume his parents have indoctrinated him into this twisted theology.

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jeffreyw  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:12:38am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:19:08am

re: #237 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes.

45th class reunion a couple months ago. 365 of us graduated now less than 60 are still alive. Was a shock when a classmate sent me the list of those still alive…

Same here. This year was my fortieth high school reunion (except I’m never invited to them). Of the 17 who were in my class, only 9 are alive now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:25:57am

re: #309 Anymouse 🌹

Same here. This year was my fortieth high school reunion (except I’m never invited to them). Of the 17 who were in my class, only 9 are alive now.

of six siblings only four are left…

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Teukka  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:27:16am

Re: Issues at Gatwick. Why you don’t fly drones in restricted airspace:

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makeitstop  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:27:46am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

Ah, OK. Yeah, that’s been generating quite the buzz as of late.

I didn’t know it was a state-owned bank….I just read that it was being described as a “state-owned company”. Granted, there isn’t too much here in the former East Bloc that’s still state-owned (in the case of Czech Republic, about the only thing still owned by the state is Czech Railways and part of ČEZ, an energy company) but it’s most likely one of the Russian banks.

Rude Pundit had an interesting take on that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:30:40am

re: #307 Patricia Kayden

I’m sorry to hear that. He’s kind of going to be filled with such homicidal rage. But I assume his parents have indoctrinated him into this twisted theology.

Not so much. He’s the sort of person who fills Christian conservatives with homicidal rage, some of whom will act upon it (agitprop).

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:32:10am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

of six siblings only four are left…

I’m sorry to hear of your loss. I only have one sibling, and she’s quite alive. All five of my first cousins (whom I grew up with) are also alive (though all but one has disowned my sister and me).

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lawhawk  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:33:23am
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Dave In Austin  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:35:12am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:37:41am

re: #311 Teukka

Oh, yeah, that could potentially bring down a commercial airliner. Catastrophic structural failure of the wing would do it.

And you know what? Sad to say, sooner or later, it’s probably gonna happen.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:38:37am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:39:35am

Looks like new elections are coming up in Israel in April.

bbc.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:40:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:40:47am

re: #315 lawhawk

Nothing says “Merry Christmas ” like a Santa armed with an assault weapon

peace on Earth good will to (white) men

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lawhawk  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:41:21am

re: #319 Dr Lizardo

Looks like new elections are coming up in Israel in April.

bbc.com

Yeah. The timing of that is right after Bibi comes to the States to do the AIPAC conference. That’s not coincidental. He’s nothing if not a master of manipulating Israeli political events to benefit him personally.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 5:47:51am

So, in the spirit of the holiday season:

Season’s Greetings to one and all.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:01:58am

re: #323 Dr Lizardo

So, in the spirit of the holiday season:

Season’s Greetings to one and all.

Don’t you dare make war on my Happy Holidays.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:17:38am

re: #288 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Futures ugly this AM
S&P 500: -61.25 (-2.46%)
DOW: -499.00 (-2.17%)
Nasdaq: -227.75 (-3.60%)

Yikes. Gonna be a single day trainwreck
S&P 500: -85.00 (-3.42%)
DOW: -715.00 (-3.11%)
Nasdaq: -297.50 (-4.70%)

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:17:54am

Buzzfeed’s big list of 2018 Facebook scandals (more than one every two weeks, by date, with descriptions). Your information’s safe, y’all.

It’s like a religion for many Facebook users.

The Terms of Service say it, Zuckerberg believes it, that settles it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:18:45am

re: #326 Anymouse 🌹

buzzfeednews.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:31:12am

I don’t know who first posted a mention of this:
foreignpolicy.com

but it was just a couple days ago I heard of the Obama administration’s disgraceful treatment of Mattis.

This was not appropriate when Obama did it, but it may certainly have left the impression with Trump that this behavior is acceptable.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:33:43am

Too late for last minute giving, I guess. Not Prime eligible either, but shipping is free.
Amazon: Disaster Bag/Body Bag

Hard core prepper stuff. Customer comments are hilarious. Btw, since we have a lot of EMTs and emergency service types here, is this product any good? Not that I’m in the market or anything. In a pinch I guess I could make do with those giant lawn and garden leaf bags, even if I have to double or triple bag them.

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Alephnaught  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:37:20am

Morning everyone! I’ve now got all my Christmas mixtapes up on Mixcloud now, with the final (so far) piece of the jigsaw being my 2008 mix. Which is easily the best of the lot- I managed to balance the Christmassy feeling with the wacky stuff of earlier mixes much better, and it’s got a much better flow. And it’s actually safe for work! Anyway, here it is:

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Dave In Austin  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:38:15am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:40:52am

re: #331 Dave In Austin

Border Wall or Fence or Do Not Enter tape or Pikes driven into Ground

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:41:37am

DOW already down 175.

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Jay C  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:41:42am

re: #325 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yikes. Gonna be a single day trainwreck
S&P 500: -85.00 (-3.42%)
DOW: -715.00 (-3.11%)
Nasdaq: -297.50 (-4.70%)

Dow opened down 135 today, now trading at about the 22,300 level.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:41:54am

re: #328 Hecuba’s daughter

I don’t know who first posted a mention of this:
foreignpolicy.com

but it was just a couple days ago I heard of the Obama administration’s disgraceful treatment of Mattis.

This was not appropriate when Obama did it, but it may certainly have left the impression with Trump that this behavior is acceptable.

What did Obama do? I can’t find anything in that article.

Mattis did this (courtesy of Wikipedia):

In May 2004, Mattis ordered the 3:00 a.m. bombing of a suspected enemy safe house near the Syrian border, which later came to be known as the Mukaradeeb wedding party massacre and resulted in the deaths of 42 civilians, including 11 women and 14 children. Mattis said it had taken him 30 seconds to decide whether to bomb the location. Describing the wedding as implausible, he said, “How many people go to the middle of the desert to hold a wedding 80 miles (130km) from the nearest civilization? These were more than two dozen military-age males. Let’s not be naive.” The Associated Press obtained video footage appearing to show a wedding party, but the occurrence of a wedding was disputed by military officials.

Obama on the other hand did this:

In early 2010, Mattis was reported to be on the list of generals being considered to replace James T. Conway as the Commandant of the U.S. Marine Corps In July, he was recommended by Defense Secretary Robert Gates for nomination to replace David Petraeus as commander of United States Central Command, and formally nominated by President Obama on July 21.

He retired after that posting. I’m not sure how a promotion is a mistreatment by Obama.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:42:07am
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:42:46am

re: #331 Dave In Austin

You made “Mexico would pay for it” an important part of your campaign. No money, no fence or wall. Or are you a liar (rhetorical).

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:43:07am

And here we go!!

noradsanta.org

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Teukka  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:44:06am

re: #329 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Too late for last minute giving, I guess. Not Prime eligible either, but shipping is free.
Amazon: Disaster Bag/Body Bag

[Embedded content]

Hard core prepper stuff. Customer comments are hilarious. Btw, since we have a lot of EMTs and emergency service types here, is this product any good? Not that I’m in the market or anything. In a pinch I guess I could make do with those giant lawn and garden leaf bags, even if I have to double or triple bag them.

Wow, the comments:

I actually use these for my garbage.
They’re much more durable than a standard garbage bag and they can hold a LOT more garbage. They also have nice handles which makes it easier when you’re hauling it out to the front curb.
Bonus feature: After about a month of using these, my neighbors stopped b****ing about the length of my grass.

Personally? I might have use for half a dozen for a SHTF room.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:45:05am

re: #331 Dave In Austin

Virtually every Democrat Republican we are dealing with today strongly supported a Border Wall or Fence The Affordable Health Care Act . It was only when Obama made it an important part of his campaign, …that they turned against it. Desperately needed!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:45:21am

Down -200 and change now.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:46:13am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Unchecked my ass. You wanted a wall because you wanted something to sell to your moronic base. Merry Christmas Asshole. May the only wall you see be from prison.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:46:44am

moron

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:49:15am

re: #339 Teukka

And you can contribute to LGF by using the body bag link provided here!

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:49:48am

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

moron

When every single thing is transactional.

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Teukka  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:50:27am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:51:49am

re: #341 Eclectic Cyborg

Down -200 and change now.

Dancing around -300 now

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:52:33am

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

moron

Stfu about our allies already.

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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:52:44am

Morning!

A little festive greeting out of my Photoshop…click to make more bigly.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:53:12am

God I want this asshole to spend the rest of his miserable life in a cell.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:53:49am

maybe he picked up somebody’s ransom?

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:54:25am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

And he loudly and repeatedly lied about Mexico paying for it. When he gets Mexico to pay for it, he’ll get his wall.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:56:24am

Dow is down 1.66%, while my portfolio is down only 1%. I am a financial genius!

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dangerman  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:56:39am

re: #352 Patricia Kayden

And he loudly and repeatedly lied about Mexico paying for it. When he gets Mexico to pay for it, he’ll get his wall.

Nope. Not even then

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:57:00am
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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:57:08am

re: #328 Hecuba’s daughter

I don’t know who first posted a mention of this:
foreignpolicy.com

but it was just a couple days ago I heard of the Obama administration’s disgraceful treatment of Mattis.

This was not appropriate when Obama did it, but it may certainly have left the impression with Trump that this behavior is acceptable.

What???

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2018 • 6:57:49am

re: #352 Patricia Kayden

And he loudly and repeatedly lied about Mexico paying for it. When he gets Mexico to pay for it, he’ll get his wall.

Getting Mexico to pay for the wall was his entire gimmick. He insisted he knew better than anybody else. If a woman or PoC had his qualifications, they never would have made it this far. Trump’s a reflection on how a segment of our society stupidly thinks businessmen should be running government.

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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:00:59am

re: #337 Anymouse 🌹

You made “Mexico would pay for it” an important part of your campaign. No money, no fence or wall. Or are you a liar (rhetorical).

Saying Mexico would pay for it was both a punishment and a way of saying you build the wall to keep your people in.

It is not our problem, it is yours so you fix it.

Not only was it a way to fire up America’s bigot brigade, it added a special twist to it…Mexico has to pay for it.

That is adding sizzle to the steak…the method of the cheap used car salesman and con artist.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:01:24am

S&P 500
2,382.75
-33.87(-1.40%)

Dow 30
22,119.25
-326.12(-1.45%)

Nasdaq
6,242.36
-90.64(-1.43%)

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Dave In Austin  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:01:48am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:02:08am

Trump will blame Powell.

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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:02:59am

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

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moron

He’s going to do this all of today and probably tomorrow too.

He can’t even give everyone a break for the holiday.

What a miserable lout.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:03:10am

re: #360 Dave In Austin

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You’re one to talk about taking advantage of the taxpayers Mar Al Lago leech.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:03:17am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:03:17am

Dow over 300 in the red and we’re only one hour into trading.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:03:43am

re: #362 ObserverArt

He’s going to do this all of today and probably tomorrow too.

He can’t even give everyone a break for the holiday.

What a miserable lout.

He’s miserable and he wants everybody to be as miserable as he is.

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:03:46am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:03:52am

re: #360 Dave In Austin

Makes no sense. US money does not capitalize foreign military budget, at least not directly. Tax money can only be spent on our military budget.

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dangerman  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:03:53am

re: #357 HappyWarrior

Getting Mexico to pay for the wall was his entire gimmick. He insisted he knew better than anybody else. If a woman or PoC had his ***lack of*** qualifications, they never would have made it this far. Trump’s a reflection on how a segment of our society stupidly thinks ***white*** businessmen should be running government.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:04:49am

re: #359 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

S&P 500
2,382.75
-33.87(-1.40%)

Dow 30
22,119.25
-326.12(-1.45%)

Nasdaq
6,242.36
-90.64(-1.43%)

Ouch - shaping up to be a Monday morning bloodbath.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:04:55am

re: #356 ObserverArt

What???

“both sides”

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Teukka  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:05:27am

re: #370 Dr Lizardo

Ouch - shaping up to be a Monday morning bloodbath.

INB4 “Christmas Evening Massacre”?

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Dave In Austin  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:05:46am

Whoops

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:06:58am

Makes sense, I suppose, in the Trump universe - wait two days and claim victory by implying nobody quit in protest - you kicked them to the curb.

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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:07:03am

re: #366 HappyWarrior

He’s miserable and he wants everybody to be as miserable as he is.

Like all brats.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:07:16am

re: #365 Eclectic Cyborg

Dow over 300 in the red and we’re only one hour into trading.

definitely going to drop through the 22,000 floor today

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dangerman  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:07:21am

re: #366 HappyWarrior

He’s miserable and he wants everybody to be as miserable as he is.

Don’t give the prick the satisfaction….. heartbreak ridge

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:08:30am

re: #372 Teukka

INB4 “Christmas Evening Massacre”?

There ya go ……. Black Christmas.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:09:11am

S&P 500
2,370.39
-46.23(-1.91%)

Dow 30
22,019.11
-426.26(-1.90%)

Nasdaq
6,227.62
-105.37(-1.66%)

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:10:04am

re: #356 ObserverArt

re: #335 Anymouse 🌹

The Pentagon officially announced that Mattis was being replaced as the head of Centcom but apparently no one at the White House or the Pentagon had informed Mattis of this move prior to the announcement. It seems to me that if someone is being demoted, he shouldn’t have to learn of it from a public statement.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:10:36am

Jesus.

Dow now -421.

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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:11:14am

re: #374 darthstar

Makes sense, I suppose, in the Trump universe - wait two days and claim victory by implying nobody quit in protest - you kicked them to the curb.

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And he still can’t meet Mattis face-to-face.

The ever-shrinking character of The Big Don.

He attacks through tweets and lets his suck-ups like Pompeo do the dirty work.

He is such a little man.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:11:37am

VIX is now above 32.
S&P 500 down 2%
Gold and silver are up a little bit.
Crypto markets have also been recovering since last week.

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dangerman  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:12:19am

re: #381 Eclectic Cyborg

Jesus.

Dow now -421.

Watching by the minute will make you nuts

Ride out the week and see where we are then

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:12:55am

I guess we should count ourselves lucky that the markets are closing at 13:00 Romeo today

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:13:26am
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Dave In Austin  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:13:27am

‘‘Twas the Day before Christmas and all thru the land, the Dow continued tanking and losing its clams…..

(Pls continue)

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:13:49am

re: #365 Eclectic Cyborg

Dow over 300 in the red and we’re only one hour into trading.

Maybe it will crash through the floor today — or maybe not. There have been other times when it dropped precipitously and then clawed its way back. I’ve never pretended to understand the market and certainly have long since abandoned the efficient market theory that was popular in the 70’s.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:15:01am

re: #380 Hecuba’s daughter

The Pentagon officially announced that Mattis was being replaced as the head of Centcom but apparently no one at the White House or the Pentagon had informed Mattis of this move prior to the announcement. It seems to me that if someone is being demoted, he shouldn’t have to learn of it from a public statement.

That is just how Trump rolls; presidentin’ by tweet, blindsiding everybody.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:17:14am

re: #389 NO SMOCKING GUN!

That is just how Trump rolls; presidentin’ by tweet, blindsiding everybody.

Context was lost from the original posting: this happened in 2012 or 2013; so Obama White House.

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lawhawk  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:17:30am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:18:12am

re: #390 Hecuba’s daughter

Context was lost from the original posting: this happened in 2012 or 2013; so Obama White House.

whoops; Obama was usually classier than that.

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Teukka  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:20:11am

And one of my obligatory songs on xmas eve:

Frankie Goes To Hollywood - The Power Of Love

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lawhawk  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:21:23am

There’s a lot of revisionist bulkshit coming out these days around what Obama could or couldn’t do. Like around judicial nominees, and that he should have gotten some of the older liberals to retire to get younger members on the court for the next 30-40 years.

As if McConnell had nothing to do with blocking Obama picks and preventing the court from remaining out of the right wing extremists’ grasp.

We’re watching the same influences that shifted the narrative against Hillary starting to work again against Democrats.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:21:43am

re: #387 Dave In Austin

‘‘Twas the Day before Christmas and all thru the land, the Dow continued tanking and losing its clams…..

(Pls continue)

All of the markets went straight in the shitter,
As our ass of a President kept ranting on Twitter.

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lawhawk  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:22:22am

Greg Lake - I Believe In Father Christmas.mp4 (HQ)

This is my personal favorite for a Christmas song.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:24:14am

re: #376 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

definitely going to drop through the 22,000 floor today

Apparently it happened, but briefly

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HappyWarrior  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:24:53am

re: #391 lawhawk

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Venezuela has open borders?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:25:16am
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mmmirele  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:27:24am

re: #286 Anymouse 🌹

No he hasn’t. Matt Powell wants everyone executed who doesn’t follow the Bible exactly (except for the parts he doesn’t wnat to keep): atheists, feminists, liberals, &c.

Matt Powell is trying to use YouTube to leverage a televangelist run.

Despite overt hate speech and calling for the death of various people, YouTube won’t suspend him (citing freedom of speech and freedom of religion).

If I had a YouTube channel and called for genocide, I’d be suspended and all my videos removed.

Anyone who identifies as Christian and then says the same thing is permitted.

The latest example of the Christian parade of genocidal lust from Matt Powell, a chat about his anti-science “movie” which claims Christianity is under attack (YouTube video) from Utah Outcasts (caution for coarse language, 12:31):

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Video

Powell appears to be part of the Steven “Pissing Preacher” Anderson group. Anderson lives in the next city over from me and, in fact, his hate organization aka “church” is a mile from my desk at work as the crow flies. If Powell gets too popular, Anderson will find some reason to kick him out. So we’ll see.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:28:17am
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darthstar  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:28:54am

re: #367 darthstar

Of course someone typed the link and it actually resolves.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:29:17am
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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:29:53am

re: #380 Hecuba’s daughter

The Pentagon officially announced that Mattis was being replaced as the head of Centcom but apparently no one at the White House or the Pentagon had informed Mattis of this move prior to the announcement. It seems to me that if someone is being demoted, he shouldn’t have to learn of it from a public statement.

Is being in charge of Central Command under the direct charges of the President Obama or would that have been the role of Leon Penetta who was Secretary of Defense?

While it appears that was handled badly, was it really Obama’s doing or Panetta’s?

Mattis is directly under Trump in this case because he is Secretary of Defense.

From some brief searching, as I am sorta new to this ‘news’, it appears many of the articles are right leaning military types that never liked Obama and they used it to bash Obama.

Also, keep in mind, Obama was never enamored with Mattis from the get-go. Mattis wanted to attack Iran and I am thinking Obama doing the no nukes deal with Iran created a lot of rancor.

From other articles, it appear Mattis was being a pain in the ass to all the civilian types (Panetta) in the Pentagon.

And after reading some of this, I now know why Trump picked Mattis as Secretary of Defense. It appears to me it was because of the Obama/Mattis tiff.

Let’s say it was another way to piss on Obama’s bed.

Edit: didn’t finish a thought.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:31:10am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:31:26am

re: #400 mmmirele

Ummm….why is Steven Anderson referred to as the “Pissing Preacher”?

Or do I really want to know?

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:32:13am

re: #380 Hecuba’s daughter

The Pentagon officially announced that Mattis was being replaced as the head of Centcom but apparently no one at the White House or the Pentagon had informed Mattis of this move prior to the announcement. It seems to me that if someone is being demoted, he shouldn’t have to learn of it from a public statement.

I’m not sure how “retired after that command” equates to “being demoted.” Particularly when leaving the military, he was immediately hired by General Dynamics.

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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:32:48am

re: #402 darthstar

Of course someone typed the link and it actually resolves.

[Embedded content]

Sharp kid. This is the modern world.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:36:38am

re: #394 lawhawk

I doubt this will work since Trump will give us two more years of madness to motivate us to vote against him. The midterms were a preview to 2020 and I’m hoping for another blue tsunami.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:36:52am

re: #404 ObserverArt

Is being in charge of Central Command under the direct charges of the President Obama or would that have been the role of Leon Penetta who was Secretary of Defense?

While it appears that was handled badly, was it really Obama’s doing or Panetta’s?

Mattis is directly under Trump in this case because he is Secretary of Defense.

From some brief searching, as I am sorta new to this ‘news’, it appears many of the articles are right leaning military types that never liked Obama and they used it to bash Obama.

Also, keep in mind, Obama was never enamored with Mattis from the get-go. Mattis wanted to attack Iran and I am thinking Obama doing the no nukes deal with Iran.

From other articles, it appear Mattis was being a pain in the ass to all the civilian types (Panetta) in the Pentagon.

And after reading some of this, I now know why Trump picked Mattis as Secretary of Defense. It appears to me it was because of the Obama/Mattis tiff.

Let’s say it was another way to piss on Obama’s bed.

My objection is not to the Mattis dismissal under Obama— only the way it was handled. Certainly it could have been a failing by the Pentagon rather then the WH; it could have been someone dropped the ball — that each side thought the other was going to contact Mattis in advance of the official announcement.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:37:15am

While equities markets are sliding downward, the crypto markets are rallying sharply upward. Wonder if people are moving assets around.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:38:00am

re: #400 mmmirele

Powell appears to be part of the Steven “Pissing Preacher” Anderson group. Anderson lives in the next city over from me and, in fact, his hate organization aka “church” is a mile from my desk at work as the crow flies. If Powell gets too popular, Anderson will find some reason to kick him out. So we’ll see.

Then there’s good ol’ Kevin Swanson down there south of me in Colorado. He’s another “kill ‘em all and let God sort them out” sort of person. When Ted Cruz was interviewed about Powell, Cruz said he’d never heard of him; CNN then cited the event at which he was specifically invited to speak by Powell.

(31:27, caution for video opening with Ted Cruz, followed by Kevin Swanson, followed by coarse language from Utah Outcasts—the first couple minutes will give you enough of an idea of another “hate the sinner, love the sin, kill ‘em all” agitprop stirrer):

Kevin Swanson - Know Your Enemy #6

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:42:57am

moron

McGurk was in the GWB administration before he worked in the Obama administration

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mmmirele  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:43:05am

re: #406 Dr Lizardo

Ummm….why is Steven Anderson referred to as the “Pissing Preacher”?

Or do I really want to know?

Only putting this here because you asked. It’s a riff on 1 Kings 14:10.

Pastor Steven L. Anderson Pisseth Against the Wall

This is the first thing that made him famous. Then he went on to threaten Obama.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:43:50am

re: #411 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

While equities markets are sliding downward, the crypto markets are rallying sharply upward. Wonder if people are moving assets around.

Why are cryptos rallying? Some mystical numbers that are maintained by people who are associated with organized crime or the Russians? I understand a rally for precious metals; they actually exist. Is it just that real currency is so 20th century and now everyone wants something new and shiny and lacking any real substance.

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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:43:54am

re: #412 Anymouse 🌹

Then there’s good ol’ Kevin Swanson down there south of me in Colorado. He’s another “kill ‘em all and let God sort them out” sort of person. When Ted Cruz was interviewed about Powell, Cruz said he’d never heard of him; CNN then cited the event at which he was specifically invited to speak by Powell.

(31:27, caution for video opening with Ted Cruz, followed by Kevin Swanson, followed by coarse language from Utah Outcasts—the first couple minutes will give you enough of an idea of another “hate the sinner, love the sin, kill ‘em all” agitprop stirrer):

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And here I thought one of The Ten Commandment was “Thou shall not kill.”

Then again, maybe The Ten Commandments are no longer part of Modern Evangelicals.

To hell with them…they deserve the punishments they believe are coming.

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makeitstop  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:45:17am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:47:39am

Not that it matters but as of 10:44, the Dow is down only 179.30. But it will be changing every second — so who knows where it will end up.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:49:00am

re: #416 ObserverArt

And here I thought one of The Ten Commandment was “Thou shall not kill.”

Then again, maybe The Ten Commandments are no longer part of Modern Evangelicals.

To hell with them…they deserve the punishments they believe are coming.

The evangelical apologetic rationalisation goes like this:

The verse should be translated as “thou shalt not murder.” Killing is a mistranslation.
God commands all sorts of people to be killed in his name (which they claim are such people as gays, feminists, abortion doctors, &c)
It’s not murder if God commands it.
God’s law is above man’s law.
Therefore killing (name group) is not murder.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:49:08am

re: #415 Hecuba’s daughter

Why are cryptos rallying? Some mystical numbers that are maintained by people who are associated with organized crime or the Russians? I understand a rally for precious metals; they actually exist. Is it just that real currency is so 20th century and now everyone wants something new and shiny and lacking any real substance.

Wall Street is investing into Bitcoin and Ethereum pretty heavily. Organized crime still prefers cash, because most cryptos are not anonymous and can be traced to the source. That’s how the FBI busted the Silk Road illicit market site. And the Russians use shell companies.

As for currency, only about 30% of US dollars exist in physical form. The other 70% is stored as numbers in computers.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:50:13am

re: #416 ObserverArt

And here I thought one of The Ten Commandment was “Thou shall not kill.”

Then again, maybe The Ten Commandments are no longer part of Modern Evangelicals.

To hell with them…they deserve the punishments they believe are coming.

Nope — Thou shalt not murder. So supports governmental execution.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:51:15am

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

…loading up airplanes with 1.8 Billion Dollars in CASH & sending it to Iran…

That was their money, you fucking idiot! And we stiffed them out of 37 years interest on it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:52:14am

re: #420 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Wall Street is investing into Bitcoin and Ethereum pretty heavily. Organized crime still prefers cash, because most cryptos are not anonymous and can be traced to the source. That’s how the FBI busted the Silk Road illicit market site. And the Russians use shell companies.

As for currency, only about 30% of US dollars exist in physical form. The other 70% is stored as numbers in computers.

Currency backed by the power of the government has more credibility then “currency” backed by a bunch of dudebros.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:53:38am

University of Massachusetts, Amherst

Nicole Parsons told the news website on Sunday that she put up the sign in her dorm window after someone drew a swastika on a “Happy Hannukah” sign earlier this month.

The university in a statement posted on Facebook said the email was “poorly worded.”

“A poorly worded email from Residence Life staff asking students to take down the sign does not reflect the values of the campus, and it should not have been sent,” the statement says. “UMass Amherst emphatically rejects Nazis, and any other hate group, a view expressed in the students’ sign.”

“However, we are sensitive to the use of profanity, which some could find inappropriate,” the statement adds. “The university respects the students’ right to display the sign and it may remain up.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:55:01am

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

[Embedded content]

“Little Bob Corker”

He’s so fucking petty.

“AMERICA IS RESPECTED AGAIN!”

Our government is shut down, our economy is taking a shit (and dragging the rest of the world down), we’re pissing off allies left, right and center and members of the Presidents senior staff have a shorter tenure than Spinal Tap drummers. Yeah, we’re totally respected.

🙄

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:56:21am

re: #424 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Why should we ever have to include Nazis? Hell.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:56:57am

re: #423 Hecuba’s daughter

Currency backed by the power of the government has more credibility then “currency” backed by a bunch of dudebros.

Maybe, though the dudebros don’t back the currency in the same sense as the Treasury and the Fed back the dollar. The markets determine the price of Bitcoin, etc., much as they do commodities like gold and crude oil. Granted, commodities have utilitarian value, while Bitcoin does not, but the monetary value of all of them is determined by how much people are willing to pay for them and in the case of oil how the cartels set the sale price.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:57:44am

Moron

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:57:49am

re: #426 Eclectic Cyborg

Why should we ever have to include Nazis? Hell.

Have people forgotten there was a war against the Nazis, and that they lost it?

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Dave In Austin  Dec 24, 2018 • 7:59:54am
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darthstar  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:00:04am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:00:15am

re: #428 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Moron

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Never in my memory has a POTUS criticized the Fed in this way. Trump sounds like one of the Pauls or those crazy-ass goldbugs. Some goldbugs were even predicting Trump would abolish the Fed and re-establish the gold standard.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:01:21am

re: #428 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He’s gonna fire Powell, isn’t he? By Twitter, most likely.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:01:43am

re: #424 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

University of Massachusetts, Amherst

“Fuck” is not profane. Profanity is an offence against a god or a religion. “Fuck” might be considered vulgar, as one of those old Anglo-Saxon words replace by Norman French words like “intercourse.”

You’d think a university would know the difference between “profane” and “vulgar.” I’ve never been to one (except as a visitor) and I know the difference.

In the interest of “civility,” Amherst ends up defending Nazis while trying to call for “civility.”

Screw civility; Nazis and their supporters deserve none.

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:02:33am

Oh, for fuck’s sake …

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lawhawk  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:03:46am

re: #428 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Fanfare for the common man. Make golf metaphors?

Trump is known to fudge his golf scores too. His touch is to lie and project. He gets caught lying and he lies even more.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:05:09am
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darthstar  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:05:17am

re: #435 darthstar

Oh, for fuck’s sake …

[Embedded content]

On the plus side, Trump used a simile.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:05:41am

Seen in a comment about Amazon Echo on a YouTube video:

User: Alexa, What time is it?
Echo: Time for you to die.

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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:06:00am

re: #419 Anymouse 🌹

The evangelical apologetic rationalisation goes like this:

The verse should be translated as “thou shalt not murder.” Killing is a mistranslation.
God commands all sorts of people to be killed in his name (which they claim are such people as gays, feminists, abortion doctors, &c)
It’s not murder if God commands it.
God’s law is above man’s law.
Therefore killing (name group) is not murder.

re: #421 Hecuba’s daughter

Nope — Thou shalt not murder. So supports governmental execution.

Interesting. I was taught “Thou shall not kill” as a Catholic school kid.

Those damn Catholics were just too liberal.

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BigPapa  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:07:37am

25th Amendment before it’s too late. Too bad we can’t 25th all his cult.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:07:56am

re: #440 ObserverArt

Interesting. I was taught “Thou shall not kill” as a Catholic school kid.

Those damn Catholics were just too liberal.

Catholics aren’t Christians according to many Protestants. /not s

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freetoken  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:08:02am

The problem with appealing-to-both-sides in American media is that there really isn’t any thoughtful balance on what the “sides” really means.

And that goes all the way to the so-called public broadcasters too.

I’ve ranted here before about NPR and how they seem too beholden to playing with entities which would gladly close them down.

And PBS too… though the corporation gets little tax money, the individual stations got licenses as public broadcasters.

Note this from the upcoming season of Henry Gate’s show:

Here’s When You Can Watch Season 5 of “Finding Your Roots With Henry Louis Gates Jr.”

politicians Marco Rubio, Tulsi Gabbard and Paul Ryan

What a trio of losers.

Maybe because Gates had on previous Cory Booker someone said he needed to be “balanced”????

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:08:04am

re: #436 lawhawk

He’s also known to drive onto the green because his fat ass can’t walk to it.

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lizardofid  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:10:05am

re: #436 lawhawk

Fanfare for the common man. Make golf metaphors?

Trump is known to fudge his golf scores too. His touch is to lie and project. He gets caught lying and he lies even more.

Up ding for truth. (and the Aaron Copeland shout out!)

Good morning, and Happy Holidays to everyone!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:10:17am

re: #440 ObserverArt

Interesting. I was taught “Thou shall not kill” as a Catholic school kid.

Those damn Catholics were just too liberal.

IIRC there was some debate how to translate that word from the original, as either “kill” or “murder.” Different English translations of the OT choose one or the other.

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BigPapa  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:11:31am

Stephen Miller looks like he smells like urine.

448
freetoken  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:11:53am
As reported in the Journal Sentinel, House Speaker Paul Ryan’s DNA test showed he’s 3 percent Ashkenazi Jewish. (That’s roughly the equivalent of one Jewish third-great-grandparent.) “You could have knocked him over with a feather,” Gates says. He adds that this ethnicity likely came from Ryan’s mother’s German line, which the show’s researchers traced to Ryan’s 10th-great-grandfather, born in 1531.

Ryan would have gladly gutted all of public broadcasting if he could have gotten away with it…

As for his distant AJ ancestor… Ryan may find such things personally interesting, or not, but Ryan sure didn’t make any public efforts to constrain the anti-semitic streak that runs through so many of the glibertarian factions of the GOP.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:12:39am

re: #443 freetoken

The problem with appealing-to-both-sides in American media is that there really isn’t any thoughtful balance on what the “sides” really means.

And that goes all the way to the so-called public broadcasters too.

I’ve ranted here before about NPR and how they seem too beholden to playing with entities which would gladly close them down. (rest cut for brevity)

I’ve noted before I wrote “All Things Considered” about an interview they did with someone from the Center for Immigration Studies, where they did not inform in the segment who they actually are (giving the impression they are some sort of mainstream outlet rather than a bunch of flaming racists).

I got an E-mail back from the editor of the programme telling me that it was not their place to make such judgement calls, as it would present bias and an unfair charaterisation from the group.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:12:54am

re: #447 BigPapa

Stephen Miller looks like he smells like urine.

Probably he drinks it as a chaser for his daily pint or two of blood..

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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:15:18am

Interesting find about The Commandments.

They changed it on me!

(How does man change “God’s Laws?” - I don’t need an answer, I have a good idea…convenience. One of the reasons I am no longer religious.)

Liturgical Press -
“You Shall Not Kill” or “You Shall Not Murder”?

Nearly all English translations of the Bible during the last third of the twentieth century have changed the wording of the sixth commandment from kill to murder. The Hebrew word that appears in the commandment has a broader semantic range than murder. Wilma Ann Bailey discusses why the Protestant and Jewish traditions changed the wording and why the Roman Catholic tradition did not. She also examines the impact that the wording will have in the future for people who believe that there is no general prohibition against killing in the Hebrew Bible and why questions of killing that are broader than murder—death penalty and just war—are no longer part of the discussion of this commandment.

Chapters are You Shall Not Kill, The Sixth Commandment in Evangelical Protestantism, The Sixth Commandment in Mainline Traditions, The Sixth Commandment in Judaism, The Fifth Commandment in Roman Catholicism, When ‘You Shall Not Kill’ Became ‘You Shall Not Murder.’

Wilma Ann Bailey, MA, PhD, is associate professor of Hebrew and Aramaic Scripture at Christian Theological Seminary in Indianapolis.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:15:23am

And since I am not a vampire, it’s midnight and I need to go to sleep. You folks may have tomorrow off from work, but I don’t. Have a Merry Christmas if you do that kind of thing, and a happy Monday if you don’t.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:15:27am

re: #445 lizardofid

Up ding for truth. (and the Aaron Copeland shout out!)

Good morning, and Happy Holidays to everyone!

For my religious friends here …

Gaudete

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freetoken  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:15:47am

re: #449 Anymouse 🌹

I got an E-mail back from the editor of the programme telling me that it was not their place to make such judgement calls, as it would present bias and an unfair charaterisation from the group.

Which is why I don’t support NPR.

Some people still think “public broadcasting” is a good thing, but I now feel such things just become propaganda outlets if those running it just do what they are told.

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BigPapa  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:15:51am

‘Being right all the time is sorta hot’

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:17:30am

“… The image itself is way too large to post here, but you can visit the company’s website and use their online tool to enjoy it for yourself. It’s a bit like a treasure hunt, and you can easily lose some serious time just trying to find new and interesting things to check out. However, a bit of a warning: Jingkun’s website has been experiencing some downtime since the image was posted (likely due to lots and lots of visitors) so if the link leads to a dead end just try again later. …”

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lawhawk  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:18:16am

DJIA is down only ~360 right now… woo. Can’t contain my glee about that…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:22:03am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:23:33am

re: #433 Dr Lizardo

He’s gonna fire Powell, isn’t he? By Twitter, most likely.

You never know. I read one story that claimed he now understood that he can’t, but that doesn’t mean much. Its clear he can’t remove Powell from the Board of Governors, but he may be able to remove him as Fed Chair.

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ObserverArt  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:25:22am

re: #442 Anymouse 🌹

Catholics aren’t Christians according to many Protestants. /not s

Believe me…I learned that lesson around age 10 as a Catholic kid.

Just another reason why as that same kid I began to question every damn thing. And I still am. Nothing but observations and questions anymore.

Now I am just an earthling. I don’t even know if I want to be considered human since so many humans are so inhumane.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:28:01am

re: #454 freetoken

Which is why I don’t support NPR.

Some people still think “public broadcasting” is a good thing, but I now feel such things just become propaganda outlets if those running it just do what they are told.

I support the local radio station (KTNE - Alliance). NPR is the closest thing I can get to unbiased news here (aside from the Internet, but I can’t really use the Internet in my car).

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:29:11am

re: #459 NO SMOCKING GUN!

You never know. I read one story that claimed he now understood that he can’t, but that doesn’t mean much. Its clear he can’t remove Powell from the Board of Governors, but he may be able to remove him as Fed Chair.

Yeah, that’d cause a meltdown. Hopefully, someone among his addlepated sycophants realizes that would be a singularly bad move and warn him against him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:30:48am

re: #462 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, that’d cause a meltdown. Hopefully, someone among his addlepated sycophants realizes that would be a singularly bad move and warn him against him.

[tinfoilhat]They’re shorted on the market and intend to make a killing in a downturn[/tinfoilhat]

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:30:49am

I tweeted it

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:38:42am

re: #464 I Would Prefer Not To

Off topic: I’ve frequently wondered what it is you prefer not to (do, say, participate in, &c)

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:41:41am

Mick Mulvaney Defends Trump’s Syria Pull-Out: It’s Popular With Idiots! (goes to Wonkette)

No really that’s his argument.

What the hell does Mick Mulvaney know about Syria or any of the geopolitical issues surrounding that nation?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:41:53am
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gocart mozart  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:42:32am
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:48:13am

re: #468 gocart mozart

Trump’s financial prowess is doing so well for the entire country. It’s not as if he inherited a roaring economy from the Kenyan. /s

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:48:14am
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:53:25am

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:55:10am

Music to listen to while your stock portfolios and retirement accounts evaporate into the wallets of the extremely wealthy:

Crowded House - Don’t Dream It’s Over

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gocart mozart  Dec 24, 2018 • 8:58:36am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:02:42am

re: #465 Anymouse 🌹

Off topic: I’ve frequently wondered what it is you prefer not to (do, say, participate in, &c)

Bartleby the Scrivner: A story of Wall Street, a short story by Herman Melville.

read it here

It’s a great short story.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:03:44am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:04:42am

flailing

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:05:33am

re: #426 Eclectic Cyborg

Why should we ever have to include Nazis? Hell.

We used to make a regular practice of including Nazis, especially at shooting ranges:

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:06:10am

One thing I did like about Sen. Sanders’s platform was the small securities tax which would have been imposed on every trade to fund higher education.

Such a tax would not affect the small-time trader (mom and pop, long-term investor for retirement), &c. It would heavily affect computer-program trading and other such groups as hedge funds and speculators. That would also tend to smooth out the markets (computer trades not looking for the one millionth of a cent edge to make a profit).

Thus because it would hurt the wealthy conservative or libertarian in support of a public good, it was evil.

Such a program might have funded a trip to college for me if it existed in 1978.

(There’s plenty Sanders has done which I don’t like, but I do like that.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:08:46am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:10:48am
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Belafon  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:11:24am

re: #467 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

I’m watching the Doctor Who Christmas Special, the first episode with the Tenth Doctor, and Micky’s description after being attacked by the Santas sounds just like that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:12:02am

re: #437 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

This Christmas illustration is EVERYTHING.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:12:35am

re: #482 The Vicious Babushka

This Christmas illustration is EVERYTHING.

[Embedded content]

Saw that one once before, either last year or the year before, I can’t remember which. So powerful.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:14:43am

re: #482 The Vicious Babushka

This Christmas illustration is EVERYTHING.

Yes

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:16:26am

S&P 500
2,371.22
-45.40(-1.88%)

Dow 30
21,983.86
-461.51(-2.06%)

Nasdaq
6,256.34
-76.65(-1.21%)

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Alephnaught  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:17:12am

(This is the song slowed down 800%)

BTW This actually sounds quite nice, a very 90s ambient drone vibe to it.

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lawhawk  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:23:35am

DJIA has again broken through 22,000 and are now at intraday low - off by more than 500 points.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:23:47am

A video on YouTube purports to tell you your “mental age” by scoring your opinions on colours of different pictures.

Yay. I’m a child.

A Color Test That Can Tell Your Mental Age (eight questions)

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:24:16am

re: #484 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yes

[Embedded content]

Palestinian refugees? Not a chance in hell.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:27:22am

glad I don’t have to live or work at the WH today (or any other day)

moron doesn’t have a clue

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gocart mozart  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:27:28am
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:28:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:28:25am

the wall will be built with the Shutdown money? What’s that?

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lawhawk  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:29:39am

His tweets are growing more incoherent by the minute (literally).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:32:02am

re: #494 lawhawk

His tweets are growing more incoherent by the minute (literally).

[Embedded content]

from the google machine:

Distance from Syria to United States. Distance from Syria to United States is 10,775 kilometers. This air travel distance is equal to 6,695 miles. The air travel (bird fly) shortest distance between Syria and United States is 10,775 km= 6,695 miles.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:32:20am

re: #493 Backwoods_Sleuth

the wall will be built with the Shutdown money? What’s that?

Government workers’ paychecks. That and the money saved by conservatives turning off the National Christmas Tree.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:32:41am

re: #488 Anymouse 🌹

A video on YouTube purports to tell you your “mental age” by scoring your opinions on colours of different pictures.

Yay. I’m a child.

[Embedded content]

Video (eight questions)

20-29 for me. 40+ years off.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:34:50am

re: #497 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

20-29 for me. 40+ years off.

But is it off? Are you really a young adult at heart?

Though I’m fifty-eight, I make a habit out of riding on the backs of grocery carts at the store… .

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:35:53am

Trump is the orange grinch who stole all our Christmases.

500
BigPapa  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:36:23am

I actually wish Drumph was playing golf now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:36:49am

re: #498 Anymouse 🌹

But is it off? Are you really a young adult at heart?

Though I’m fifty-eight, I make a habit out of riding on the backs of grocery carts at the store… .

And don’t ever stop!

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lawhawk  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:38:00am

Holy shitsnacks:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:40:59am

This story gets stranger by the minute:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:42:34am
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Belafon  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:42:55am

re: #488 Anymouse 🌹

A video on YouTube purports to tell you your “mental age” by scoring your opinions on colours of different pictures.

Yay. I’m a child.

[Embedded content]

Video (eight questions)

In the 20-29 range. Off by 20-29 years.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:43:54am

re: #503 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This story gets stranger by the minute:

[Embedded content]

Of course! Those 21 year olds and their business empires.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:44:00am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:46:16am

re: #506 Eclectic Cyborg

Of course! Those 21 year olds and their business empires.

If by “business empire” you mean the Falwells having a menage a troi with the cabana boy.

LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:48:07am
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Semper Fi  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:55:42am

re: #494 lawhawk

His tweets are growing more incoherent by the minute (literally).

[Embedded content]

Yeah, Saudi Arabia is gonna pay to rebuild Syria just like Mexico is gonna pay for the wall…

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makeitstop  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:56:18am
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:57:03am
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lawhawk  Dec 24, 2018 • 9:59:32am

re: #510 Semper Fi

It’s even more bugnuts insane when you actually try to get into the details.

Assad is Alawite. His backers are Russia and Iran. Iran is Shi’ite, while the Saudis are Salafists opposed to anyone who isn’t Sunni.

Saudis don’t have any sway in Syria because they oppose Shia expansionism. There’s no reason for the Saudis to throw money to Syria, except to build up the insurrectionists (which also happens to include the Islamic State).

Trump doesn’t get regional politics, let alone sectarianism or that Saudis don’t have anyone to back in Syria. Why would they fund a guy aligned with their chief rival. They aren’t going to swing Assad to their side when Iran has been backing Assad militarily.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:01:06am
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TedStriker  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:01:37am

re: #512 Anymouse 🌹

[Embedded content]

Everything Trump touches turns to shit, even this.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:02:19am

Market closes for the holiday

S&P 500
2,351.68
-64.94(-2.69%)

Dow 30
21,795.46
-649.91(-2.90%)

Nasdaq
6,192.92
-140.08(-2.21%)

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:05:49am

re: #516 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Market closes for the holiday

S&P 500
2,351.68
-64.94(-2.69%)

Dow 30
21,795.46
-649.91(-2.90%)

Nasdaq
6,192.92
-140.08(-2.21%)

How long before the DJIA falls below 21,000?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:07:44am

who needs pesky regulations???

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:07:46am

Dennis Prager (former right wing nut job radio host until he found out he could scam more money by hawking religion) was on FOX.

KILMEADE: “Dennis, nobody knows more about religion, all types of religion, and theories and traditions than you. Why does merry Christmas matter?”

PRAGER: “It matters because it’s a national holiday, first of all. People have to understand I’m a Jew, OK? Christmas is not my religious holiday, but Christmas is my national holiday, on de facto and legal grounds. On the legal grounds it’s a national holiday. I honor my country. Number two, the vast majority of my fellow citizens celebrate this holiday. It’s — the notion — and this is the most important point — the notion that if you don’t celebrate Christmas or if you’re not a Christian you are offended by it, is so preposterous that words fail me. Preposterous is an understatement. Why would I be offended as a Jew if you said to me, as a non-Christian if you said to me merry Christmas? The idea is so narcissistic and so absurd, this is the holiday of the season. And it’s — to deny that there is a war on Christmas is to lie.”

“Merry Christmas” only became popular after “A Christmas Carol” was published.

Too bad conservatives don’t feel the same way (on legal grounds) about Labor Day or Martin Luther King, Jr’s birthday, which are also national holidays.

So what if the vast majority of your fellow citizens celebrate the holiday, and your strawman about non-Christians should spontaneously combust. (Speaking of lying, Dennis.)

grabien.com (with video, 4:19)

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mmmirele  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:08:26am

re: #517 Dr Lizardo

How long before the DJIA falls below 21,000?

I’d wait a few more minutes (until :15 after the hour, in fact) before determining where the stock market settles. (That whole business with trades not being reported real time.)

However, that said, today was a half-day session and it was completely awful. And, to answer your question, I would say, “Wednesday, December 26, 2018.”

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gocart mozart  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:08:59am
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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:09:34am

re: #515 TedStriker

Everything Trump touches turns to shit, even this.

The essential distillation of conservatism, Killing the National Christmas Tree. (Perhaps Bill O’Reilly can use that as the title of his next book.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:09:40am

re: #517 Dr Lizardo

How long before the DJIA falls below 21,000?

Probably Thursday. After he rants into Wednesday night about keeping the shutdown in place until he gets his wall money

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:10:24am

re: #513 lawhawk

It’s even more bugnuts insane when you actually try to get into the details.

Assad is Alawite. His backers are Russia and Iran. Iran is Shi’ite, while the Saudis are Salafists opposed to anyone who isn’t Sunni.

Saudis don’t have any sway in Syria because they oppose Shia expansionism. There’s no reason for the Saudis to throw money to Syria, except to build up the insurrectionists (which also happens to include the Islamic State).

Trump doesn’t get regional politics, let alone sectarianism or that Saudis don’t have anyone to back in Syria. Why would they fund a guy aligned with their chief rival. They aren’t going to swing Assad to their side when Iran has been backing Assad militarily.

Just looked it up and learned that Alawites are an offshoot of Shia. Trump’s base is ignorant and he himself has no understanding and no interest in any issues that don’t involve personal profit to him.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:10:27am

re: #523 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Probably Thursday. After he rants into Wednesday night about keeping the shutdown in place until he gets his wall money

Or he removes Powell as Fed Chairman via Tweet.

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mmmirele  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:11:21am

re: #525 Dr Lizardo

Or he removes Powell as Fed Chairman via Tweet.

Yeah, all bets are off if he removes Powell by Tweet. And I have an uneasy feeling that he’s going to do it before market open on Wednesday.

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Skip Intro  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:12:32am

re: #517 Dr Lizardo

How long before the DJIA falls below 21,000?

2 days?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:13:26am

re: #526 mmmirele

Yeah, all bets are off if he removes Powell by Tweet. And I have an uneasy feeling that he’s going to do it before market open on Wednesday.

Yeah, that’d be one of those “run for the exits!” moments.

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freetoken  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:13:56am

Trumpian tumble:

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BigPapa  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:13:57am

I get 90 minutes or so of Wingnut Radio a week, much of that Prager. Many years ago I thought he wasn’t as bad as the outright douchebags, his more bookish scholarly tone a thin veneer of credibility. After a little while I realized he is just as intellectually craven as the rest of em. A more wonkish and nerdy Father Coughlin, the hate and derangement is still there.

We teach was isn’t taught.
I’m not against liberals, I’m against the left. There’s a difference.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:14:08am

re: #527 Skip Intro

2 days?

Is it time for me to make a bank run on my savings and checking accounts yet?

532
Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:16:02am

re: #531 Anymouse 🌹

Is it time for me to make a bank run on my savings and checking accounts yet?

“Now is not the time for fear a bank run. That comes later.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:16:13am

re: #529 freetoken

Trumpian tumble:

How fitting

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:17:35am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:20:35am

There has been no movement for about a quarter hour. I think we have fficial closing figures

S&P 500
2,351.10
-65.52(-2.71%)

Dow 30
21,792.20
-653.17(-2.91%)

Nasdaq
6,192.92
-140.08(-2.21%)

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makeitstop  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:21:01am

re: #533 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

How fitting

[Embedded content]

Voight has turned into Orrin Hatch’s long-lost twin.

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freetoken  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:22:51am

I’m old enough to remember when in America there was a wall… not that kind of wall… between banking and the equities markets.

Then that was dismantled, as well as other regulations.

Now, the speculators loved the new freedom, and that is why on that long term graph of started to grow exponentially… until it crashed big.

Also what changed, and this was subtle and many Americans who weren’t paying close attention had no clue, is that the powers that be (i.e., the very rich and the Republican tools) shifted the idea of “retirement” from {Social Security, savings, your house, and life insurance} to a retirement assets centered on equities, which then included derivatives and such flimsy things.

Turning retirement into equities gambling may have been the biggest con during my lifetime (well, at least until Trump fooled his ignorant marks.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:27:07am

re: #535 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

There has been no movement for about a quarter hour. I think we have fficial closing figures

S&P 500
2,351.10
-65.52(-2.71%)

Dow 30
21,792.20
-653.17(-2.91%)

Nasdaq
6,192.92
-140.08(-2.21%)

Also, not encouraging, the 21,792.20 closing is the lowest point (including inter day trading) the DOW has reached in the past 52 weeks.
S&P 500 as well

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freetoken  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:27:24am

Equities are grossly overpriced, by traditional standards of P/E ratios.

But in the 21st century the idea of P/E ratios seems to be antiquated.

But… they are not.

Fundamentally, Trump, for all his ignorance, is only a part of a larger miasma of dysfunction in America.

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Anymouse 🌹  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:27:31am

re: #537 freetoken

I used to have a checking account at Washington Mutual (at a branch across from my mother’s apartment).

When I moved to Oklahoma, I was cut off from my bank (as there were no WaMu branches in Oklahoma).

On a visit to my mother, I went across the street near the end of the day to close my account. The bank teller was nervous, called the manager over, he pulled me into the office to ask why and a couple of curious questions I didn’t understand at the time.

At the end of all that, they gave me my $100.

That evening, WaMu collapsed. It is my opinion they thought I had some advance notice of the seizure of the bank, or that my $100 was the only assets they actually possessed.

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plansbandc  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:30:58am

re: #428 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

If the Fed “doesn’t have a feel for the economy” than who in blithering fuck does?

Fucking moron.

542
BigPapa  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:31:18am

re: #539 freetoken

Upding for ‘miasma of dysfunction’ but no upding for the actual miasma of dysfunction.

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ckkatz  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:32:58am

In honor of this bugnutz time:

It’s we poor wassail boys so weary and cold
Please drop some small silver into our bowl
And if we survive for another new year
Perhaps we may call and see who does live here

Gower Wassail - Steeleye Span

Gower Wassail

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freetoken  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:33:06am

Speaking of dysfunction, I see that UFC is making a last-minute change to their next show, moving it from Vegas to LA just because the Nevada commission wouldn’t license Jon Jones.

So a whole bunch of fans, and fighters and the families, get screwed just because UFC wants to push Jones (a multi-time test and legal failure.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:34:06am

re: #537 freetoken

….. that the powers that be (i.e., the very rich and the Republican tools) shifted the idea of “retirement” from {Social Security, savings, your house, and life insurance} to a retirement assets centered on equities, which then included derivatives and such flimsy things.

Turning retirement into equities gambling may have been the biggest con during my lifetime (well, at least until Trump fooled his ignorant marks.)

The old notion was that part of the retirement was provided by pensions from the employer. This meant that private companies used the stock market to fund their benefits and most were not happy with the unpredictability or level of costs so they switched to 401(k) plans, which place the decision making burden on the employees. Given the low rate paid by banks, employees cannot receive a sufficient return on their retirement savings without subjecting themselves to the vagaries of the market. Those who are wealthy or young can wait out downturns — but the rest of us don’t have sufficient assets to guarantee enough money for a comfortable life.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:34:26am

re: #540 Anymouse 🌹

They most likely initially thought you’d gotten hold of some kind of insider info that WaMu was on the brink of collapse.

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darthstar  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:35:07am
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lawhawk  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:35:51am

re: #538 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Psychological bottom of 22,000 dropped out. Next stop? 21,000.

Trump will try to deflect and project this on to everyone but himself. He’s the one who claimed every record high was attributed to him. Now that the markets are in freefall, he shifts blame.

He picked Powell. That’s on him too.

He wants to fire Powell (he can’t), but the attempt is enough to rattle markets.

That’s on Trump.

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freetoken  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:37:00am

re: #545 Hecuba’s daughter

Many old-time pensions held a lot of debt. The yields were low but there was not much volatility.

As you point out, moving the retirement fund management to the employee increased the interest in equities, which are more volatile.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:37:29am

re: #488 Anymouse 🌹

A video on YouTube purports to tell you your “mental age” by scoring your opinions on colours of different pictures.

Yay. I’m a child.

[Embedded content]

Video (eight questions)

I am still younger than my ex GF,(But I suspect that she is a mental teenager)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:38:14am

re: #493 Backwoods_Sleuth

the wall will be built with the Shutdown money? What’s that?

Money saved by not wasting it on useless government spending

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:38:18am

So when will the donor class finally decide they have had enough and tell the GOP to get rid of Trump pronto? At least those in the donor class who aren’t awaiting the Rapture.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:38:51am

re: #540 Anymouse 🌹

I just read up on the collapse of Washington Mutual - it went down like this (per Wiki):

By mid-September 2008, WaMu’s share price had closed as low as $2.00. It had been worth over $30.00 in September 2007, and had briefly traded as high as $45 in the previous year.[183] While WaMu publicly insisted it could stay independent, earlier in the month it had quietly hired Goldman Sachs to identify potential bidders. However, several deadlines passed without anyone submitting a bid.[16] At the same time, WaMu suffered a massive run (mostly via electronic banking over the internet and wire transfer[citation needed]); customers pulled out $16.7 billion in deposits in a ten-day span.[184]

This led the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department to step up pressure for WaMu to find a buyer, as a takeover by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) could have been a severe drain on the FDIC insurance fund, which had already been hard hit by the failure of IndyMac that year. The FDIC ultimately held a secret auction of Washington Mutual Bank, which was won by JPMorgan Chase. On the morning of Thursday, September 25 (which happened to be the 119th anniversary of WaMu’s establishment), regulators informed officials at JPMorgan Chase that they were the winners.[16]

On Thursday night (shortly after the close of business on the West Coast), the Office of Thrift Supervision seized Washington Mutual Bank and placed it into the receivership of the FDIC. In a statement, the OTS said that the massive run meant that WaMu was no longer sound.[184] The FDIC then sold most of Washington Mutual Bank’s assets, including the branch network, to JPMorgan Chase for $1.9 billion. JPMorgan Chase agreed to assume the bank’s secured debts and liabilities to depositors. The transaction did not require any FDIC insurance funds.[185] Normally, bank seizures take place after the close of business on Fridays. However, due to the bank’s deteriorating condition and leaks that a seizure was imminent, regulators felt compelled to act a day early.[16]

Basically, there was an electronic bank run for a little over a week that precipitated WaMu’s seizure by the Feds.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:41:52am

re: #553 Dr Lizardo

I just read up on the collapse of Washington Mutual - it went down like this (per Wiki):

Basically, there was an electronic bank run for a little over a week that precipitated WaMu’s seizure by the Feds.

Even the healthiest bank cannot withstand a run on their assets. That is certainly one way a bad actor can bring down a viable organization.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:42:49am

re: #548 lawhawk

Psychological bottom of 22,000 dropped out. Next stop? 21,000.

Trump will try to deflect and project this on to everyone but himself. He’s the one who claimed every record high was attributed to him. Now that the markets are in freefall, he shifts blame.

He picked Powell. That’s on him too.

He wants to fire Powell (he can’t), but the attempt is enough to rattle markets.

That’s on Trump.

I have to say, an 18.5% decline in the DOW since September 17th (all time high) seems like a seriously extreme market correction

//

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:43:32am

re: #517 Dr Lizardo

How long before the DJIA falls below 21,000?

At this rate? Around noon on Wednesday.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:44:16am

re: #529 freetoken

Trumpian tumble:

[Embedded content]

Are we tired of winning yet?

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Skip Intro  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:52:31am

re: #541 plansbandc

If the Fed “doesn’t have a feel for the economy” than who in blithering fuck does?

Fucking moron.

The guy who thinks with his gut.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 24, 2018 • 10:56:22am

re: #543 ckkatz

In honor of this bugnutz time:

It’s we poor wassail boys so weary and cold
Please drop some small silver into our bowl
And if we survive for another new year
Perhaps we may call and see who does live here

Gower Wassail - Steeleye Span

[Embedded content]

another Gaudete:

Steeleye Span - ‘Gaudete’

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vgranucci  Dec 24, 2018 • 11:12:33am

re: #268 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Definitely Majipoor. :)

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ckkatz  Dec 24, 2018 • 11:14:20am

re: #559 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Good to know that other Steeleye Span fans reside here!

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 24, 2018 • 11:40:19am

re: #518 Backwoods_Sleuth

who needs pesky regulations???

[Embedded content]

Who eats avocado skins?

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 24, 2018 • 3:38:50pm

re: #519 Anymouse 🌹

Dennis Prager (former right wing nut job radio host until he found out he could scam more money by hawking religion) was on FOX.

[snip]

Speaking of Kilmeade, my Faux watching FIL gave me a book written by him tonight (not a christmas present, just had it sitting there and asked if I wanted to read it). The book is “Andrew Jackson and the Miracle of New Orleans’ and Kilmeade wrote it with someone named Don Yeager. Anyone ever read it? Wonder how accurate it is. Isn’t that large of a book so I might give it a go just for giggles, hell it might even be kinda accurate.


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