An Outstanding Solo Performance: Foxtails Brigade, “Last Still Standing”

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This is an original song from our 2016 self-titled Foxtails Brigade album. I wanted to show you the solo version.

If you like this and are in the Bay Area next week, I’ll be playing this and a bunch of other solo stuff like it on Wednesday, April 11th at Bottom of the Hill. You should come.

Ticket are available now at:
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For more jamzz:
foxtailsbrigade.com

To support Foxtails Brigade:
patreon.com

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326 comments

1
Rightwingconspirator  Jul 19, 2019 • 7:44:01pm

A lovely choice for a nice evening.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 19, 2019 • 7:44:07pm

Anger and resent lead people to do terrible things:

‘I did it’ - blaze suspect held

A man suspected of torching an animation studio and killing 33 people in Japan’s worst mass killing in two decades carried out the attack because he believed his novel had been plagiarised, according to reports yesterday.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 19, 2019 • 7:48:39pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 19, 2019 • 7:48:44pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 19, 2019 • 7:51:51pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2019 • 7:51:52pm

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2019 • 7:53:17pm

re: #2 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Anger and resent lead people to do terrible things:

‘I did it’ - blaze suspect held

Nineteen of the 33 who died were found on a staircase leading up to the roof from the third floor, bodies piled on top of each other, Kyodo said. Firefighters arriving soon after the blaze began found the door to the roof was shut but could be opened from the outside, Kyodo said.

The victims may have rushed up the stairs to escape the flames and found themselves unable to open the door, it added.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 19, 2019 • 7:56:04pm

re: #7 Belafon

It’s horrible.

When I lived in Japan I often dreaded going into some older buildings. I think the fire codes just are not as strong as here in California. I remember going into buildings where the elevator could only hold a few people, they were so small. And the stairwells could only fit a single file.

There have been infamous fires in the major cities which one would think would have forced Japan to have stricter codes, and I’m sure new buildings today are better. But even buildings a few decades old can be really iffy. Egress just isn’t given enough room for panic exits.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2019 • 7:59:28pm

This has been happening more often lately. Why have I never seen this until now?!?

“Weird Al” Yankovic - Headline News

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2019 • 8:02:42pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 19, 2019 • 8:02:45pm
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Belafon  Jul 19, 2019 • 8:06:09pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2019 • 8:23:01pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jul 19, 2019 • 8:31:01pm

A nice remaster of a lesser known badass Beach Boys tune

No-Go Showboat by The Beach Boys

When it comes to speed man I’m just out of luck
I’m even shut down by the ice cream truck

— Brian Wilson. the W.B. Yeats of Hawthorne, Cali

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austin_blue  Jul 19, 2019 • 8:32:31pm

re: #2 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Anger and resent lead people to do terrible things:

‘I did it’ - blaze suspect held

It takes a certain type of sociopath who decides to kill all of his co-workers because he believes that management has stolen an idea of his.

It’s not that different from any mass shooter in the US. They feel that innocents should pay for their perceived damage.

The difference is that the sociopaths in the US have ready access to guns.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 19, 2019 • 8:38:35pm

re: #6 Skip Intro

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Speculation:
Possibility 1: Trump has hearing problem but is too vain to get a hearing aid, even though modern ones are small.
Possibility 2: An example of Trump’s continuing cognitive decline and inability to process information.
Possibility 3: She’s a woman of color. Do you really think he cares about what she’s saying?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 19, 2019 • 8:40:19pm

re: #15 austin_blue

It takes a certain type of sociopath who decides to kill all of his co-workers because he believes that management has stolen an idea of his.

It’s not that different from any mass shooter in the US. They feel that innocents should pay for their perceived damage.

The difference is that the sociopaths in the US have ready access to guns.

He doesn’t work for the company.

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retired cynic  Jul 19, 2019 • 8:45:53pm

Just heard from a friend up in that storm area in Wisconsin. Tornado went right over their farm, “ripped apart the treeline” and brought down a lot of fence. Located all horses in the dark and patched the fence well enough for tonight. Glad she and the critters are ok.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 19, 2019 • 8:49:35pm
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retired cynic  Jul 19, 2019 • 9:01:36pm

I had my own fun here. Heat Index was 110, and the house kept slowly getting warmer. I thought I was getting sick, but the central air had quit. I called my “adopted” son (who was cooling off at home in the middle of a long week running sound and lights at a county fair UGGGGGGH), and he came down, diagnosed the problem, called a brother, and the two of them replaced a part and I am cooling down. That was all the fun I could handle for the day.

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retired cynic  Jul 19, 2019 • 9:03:33pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2019 • 9:09:04pm
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mmmirele  Jul 19, 2019 • 9:09:47pm

re: #8 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s horrible.

When I lived in Japan I often dreaded going into some older buildings. I think the fire codes just are not as strong as here in California. I remember going into buildings where the elevator could only hold a few people, they were so small. And the stairwells could only fit a single file.

There have been infamous fires in the major cities which one would think would have forced Japan to have stricter codes, and I’m sure new buildings today are better. But even buildings a few decades old can be really iffy. Egress just isn’t given enough room for panic exits.

The two times I’ve been in Japan, I’ve gone to old buildings with very steep stairs. One was at Kawai Kanjiro’s House (really, that’s what it’s called and it’s a museum). It’s an old Kyoto machiya or townhouse, in a row of townhouses tucked away on a tiny street. The stairs to the second floor were very steep and did not have a railing. I thought I might have to bump down on my butt, however, I was able to descend with my dignity intact.

Tall apartment buildings have external stairways; I’m surprised this building didn’t.

ETA: In this machiya, the wood had been allowed to age gracefully, but I suspect the whole place is a fire trap.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2019 • 9:10:13pm
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Dread Pirate  Jul 19, 2019 • 9:33:34pm
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retired cynic  Jul 19, 2019 • 9:34:44pm

re: #25 Dread Pirate

That scares me. A pebble in a (not so quiet) pond.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2019 • 9:42:38pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

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Jesus fucking Christ.

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plansbandc  Jul 19, 2019 • 9:45:58pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2019 • 9:51:21pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

We’re up against a shit storm the likes of which humans haven’t experienced. It’s fucked. But also, it’s fun evolution of humans and the Internet.

I maintain that the newest thing that humans made for themselves is the internet. And We’re witnessing *evolution* in human psychology. It’s fascinating, and EXTREMELY FRIGHTENING at the same time.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 19, 2019 • 10:15:28pm

‘Night night Lizards. Here’s a cool band filled to the brim with cool cats:

Day Tripper - MonaLisa Twins (The Beatles Cover) live!

I like these fellas as well (but watch your wallets and count your silverware!)

The Traveling Wilburys - Inside Out

Btw, Jim Keltner is God. Like duh.

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2019 • 10:24:17pm

re: #5 Ace-o-aces

Just for the record, A$AP Rocky is being treated just like any other detainee in Sweden, no worse and no better. TMZ and other media outlets have been running stories which A$AP Rocky himself and his defense team have been denying are true.

Both the prosecution and defense are vowing not to yield to political pressure and resent that the issue is being politicized. Also, should A$AP Rocky be exonerated, he has the legal right to compensation for the time he was in detention, which incidentally means that his compensation for the time in detention alone will most likely be one of the largest in Swedish legal history. And if it emerges the other parties have filed false complaints, A$AP Rocky could have right to damages from them as well.

However, the politicization can call the size of that compensation into question even if exonerated, and make conviction of the other parties (alleged to have started the altercation) difficult. This could still end in A$AP Rocky’s and his crews part in the incident to be deemed self-defence, or excessive self-defence, but at a level the prosecution might choose not to pursue.

Also, libel laws in Sweden are stricter than in the US, and you can easily rack up significant damages and jail time if you talk shit about someone.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 19, 2019 • 10:28:20pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 19, 2019 • 11:17:23pm

re: #19 Ace-o-aces

He’s one of the dorkiest of idiotic Trumpers. But his twitter account is quite indicative of the ugliness that is Trump and all his followers.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2019 • 11:18:14pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

The GOP has become the party of racists, conspiracy theorists and outright cranks. The country simply cannot function with deranged lunatics in charge.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2019 • 11:27:25pm

Some good news:

Three members of the white supremacist group Rise Above Movement received prison sentences of more than two years each on Friday for crimes stemming from the 2017 Unite the Right rally.

Benjamin Drake Daley, Thomas Gillen and Michael Paul Miselis were among four RAM members indicted in October on one count each of conspiracy to violate the federal riots act and one count each of traveling from California to Charlottesville with the intent to “incite a riot, organize, promote, encourage, participate in, and carry on in a riot, to commit an act of violence in furtherance of a riot, or aid or abet any person inciting and participating in or carrying on in a riot.”

After a U.S. district judge in Virginia ruled that the three could be prosecuted under the riot statute and that it did not violate their First Amendment rights, the three accepted plea agreements last spring. However, in California federal courts, a similar case against other RAM defendants was thrown out because the judge there said the riot statute was overbroad. The Virginia defendants will still be able to appeal their convictions on constitutional grounds, and have 14 days to do so.

A fourth RAM member indicted at the same time — Cole Evan White — accepted a plea agreement in November and is currently out on bond.

dailyprogress.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2019 • 11:32:57pm

OK. Gonna update the Ubuntu OS. Wish me luck.

BBL (hopefully).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2019 • 11:43:24pm

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

The GOP has become the party of racists, conspiracy theorists and outright cranks. The country simply cannot function with deranged lunatics in charge.

The party had an opportunity to distance themselves from these people, but did not want to risk alienating their base of support.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2019 • 11:46:02pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2019 • 11:49:59pm

re: #38 Dave In Austin

?!?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:09:07am

re: #29 teleskiguy

We’re up against a shit storm the likes of which humans haven’t experienced. It’s fucked. But also, it’s fun evolution of humans and the Internet.

I maintain that the newest thing that humans made for themselves is the internet. And We’re witnessing *evolution* in human psychology. It’s fascinating, and EXTREMELY FRIGHTENING at the same time.

I regret that I have but one upding to give for that. I’ve thought for years that we were approaching a surge point in human evolution, with the exponential increase in the speed and availability of information serving to concentrate and magnify certain undesirable traits until they become a threat to human survival. The runaway depravity of the Republican Party and the growth of conspiracy culture are but two examples. This will force a showdown.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:17:11am

Foxtails Brigade

brilliant song

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Dave In Austin  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:18:45am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Reminds me of the teenage years and extreme headaches…..

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Dave In Austin  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:24:08am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 1:17:29am

Guess I’ll have to wait a bit to do the update. No problem.

Meanwhile, Trump cancelled a scheduled Q&A in front of the NAACP.

FOX 2 learned Thursday that President Donald Trump will not be there. He says the agreed upon date for his appearance changed and that he didn’t sign up for a question and answer format - just a speech.

fox2detroit.com

Pathetic coward.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 20, 2019 • 2:10:02am

Imagine that.

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Targetpractice  Jul 20, 2019 • 2:17:27am

re: #45 Dread Pirate

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Imagine that.

I imagine the first time Donny met his US Attorneys, his first words to them were “Never forget that I can fire your ass in a heartbeat.”

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Dread Pirate  Jul 20, 2019 • 2:38:01am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 4:11:41am

re: #45 Dread Pirate

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Imagine that.

I miss Obama so much. I really think he’ll be seen in history as a top President. He was able to get a lot done.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 20, 2019 • 4:15:23am

re: #48 HappyWarrior

I miss Obama so much. I really think he’ll be seen in history as a top President. He was able to get a lot done.

History many see him as the last American president.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 4:17:06am

re: #49 Colère Tueur de Lapin

History many see him as the last American president.

It just might sigh.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2019 • 4:18:27am

Morning Lizardim from the wild north country. The weather is finally supposed to turn cool, after a long two weeks of brutal heat punctuated by the occasional severe thunderstorm. How go things among the lizardfolk on this cloudy, rainy Saturday?

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2019 • 4:18:38am

re: #31 Teukka

Then the MAGAt army mass flagged his account and got it temporarily suspended.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2019 • 4:23:42am

re: #52 Teukka

P.S. Viktor Adolphson is one of the commanding officers of Södermalm Pct.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 4:24:13am

re: #52 Teukka

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Funny how it’s okay to treat migrants inhumanly because “they don’t follow our laws” but Trump will interfere for one of his buddies’ buddies in a foreign country. I don’t know what happened with this guy but this is more of Trump’s brazen corruption.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2019 • 4:29:01am

re: #54 HappyWarrior

Funny how it’s okay to treat migrants inhumanly because “they don’t follow our laws” but Trump will interfere for one of his buddies’ buddies in a foreign country. I don’t know what happened with this guy but this is more of Trump’s brazen corruption.

I don’t think it’s about his buddies buddies, I think he’s trying to create a diversion.
BTW, one of the guys that allegedly started it all has been informed that he is under suspicion of a crime, according to @YB_Sodermalm.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 20, 2019 • 4:31:09am

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 4:33:48am

re: #55 Teukka

I don’t think it’s about his buddies buddies, I think he’s trying to create a diversion.
BTW, one of the guys that allegedly started it all has been informed that he is under suspicion of a crime, according to @YB_Sodermalm.

That too. I don’t think it’s going to work though because he’s a dumbass.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2019 • 4:56:26am

independent.co.uk

“I used to help draft the National Intelligence Estimate.

In case you’re not familiar with the finer points of threat assessment within the national security apparatus, the NIE is the big enchilada: the document seen by presidents and members of congress; an objective, non-political, comprehensive piece of work that categorises and prioritises the threats faced by the United States.

While I no longer have regular access to the complete set of intelligence reports from which the NIE is drawn, I have access to some, and I am an avid reader of the related publicly available information.

I’ve developed my own amateur NIE based on this information, and here’s the organisation at the top of the list:

Shocking as that may seem - and your level of shock may vary widely depending on how closely you’ve been tracking the actions both center stage and behind the scenes of the rapidly toxifying Grand Ole Party - the real problem with this revelation is that we cannot actually do much about this threat in the classic manner.

The threat from the right is the first national-level “insider threat” the United States has faced since the Civil War. It is insidious, asymmetric, powerful - and existential.

How did I come to this conclusion? Through empirical evidence and specialised experience, using the same approach as when I helped draft a document seen by the most powerful men and women in the country….”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 20, 2019 • 5:24:52am

Posted 3 years ago today, Harvey Madison’s brilliant essay on Apollo 11.
Cynosure. (First Moon Landing)

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jul 20, 2019 • 5:28:43am

re: #58 Barefoot Grin

That sounds very Stonekettley…but with less entertaining invective.

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jeffreyw  Jul 20, 2019 • 5:30:27am

Good morning!

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 20, 2019 • 5:31:22am

re: #51 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim from the wild north country. The weather is finally supposed to turn cool, after a long two weeks of brutal heat punctuated by the occasional severe thunderstorm. How go things among the lizardfolk on this cloudy, rainy Saturday?

Rain and lots of thunder here in NW PA. Enough to wake me early this morning. And I can sleep through a lot. They are sending out flash flood warnings, but the rain has been pretty light and steady. Not the torrential downpours we have seen in the last few weeks at times.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 20, 2019 • 5:33:28am

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

The GOP has become the party of racists, conspiracy theorists and outright cranks. The country simply cannot function with deranged lunatics in charge.

That’s the idea. A significant percentage of American right wing wants a dysfunctional government that leads to its inevitable collapse and disbandment into absolute local control.

A warlord-style Protestant Christian autocracy is their idea of “freedom.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2019 • 5:47:26am

re: #62 Eventual Carrion

Rain and lots of thunder here in NW PA. Enough to wake me early this morning. And I can sleep through a lot. They are sending out flash flood warnings, but the rain has been pretty light and steady. Not the torrential downpours we have seen in the last few weeks at times.

We are just getting hit with a thunderstorm now; the house is very dark and the rain is falling steadily outside. Hearing the thunder rolling and seeing the lightning flashing. I love it.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 5:55:06am

Holy crap. Local reading…

I was just outside, and they ain’t lyin’.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2019 • 5:59:16am

re: #65 makeitstop

Holy crap. Local reading…

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I was just outside, and they ain’t lyin’.

Jesus H. Tap-dancing Christ, that’s a big number.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:04:09am

re: #65 makeitstop

Holy crap. Local reading…

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I was just outside, and they ain’t lyin’.

During the ghastly even by Texas standards Lubbock heat wave of 2011 (89 days over 100), there was one night when it was still 101 at 11 PM. I remember thinking this must be what hell is like; hot, dark, and full of drunken Baptists.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:06:07am

Music break.

This is good. Funky beat with a side of synth-pop.

GREAT TIME - Rushin [Official Video]

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DangerMan  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:11:47am

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:14:57am

I expect a full blown shitstorm from the RepubliKKKlans when Mueller testifies. Watch Gym Jordan go all in with every GOP talking point.

Now the question becomes will the Prestitutes finally do their job or will the Maggies continue to cover for Trump?

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:18:12am

re: #68 Dr Lizardo

Music break.

This is good. Funky beat with a side of synth-pop.

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Video

Huh, Philly band. Pretty fonky.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:28:06am

re: #65 makeitstop

It’s only 86 deg F here (92 with humiture) right now. Expected to get to 100+ deg F with 110-115 humiture today and tomorrow; MD on border to DC.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:28:55am

And another neo-Nazi goes to the slammer (in the UK):

A “fanatical” neo-Nazi who called for a race war has been jailed for three years for belonging to the banned far-right group National Action.

Daniel Ward, 28, from Birmingham, once accused National Action of not being active enough and said he had a thirst for gratuitous violence.

Ward labelled Jews “the cause of all evil” and said Hitler “was right”.

Weapons and extreme propaganda were found during a search of his home Highmore Drive, Bartley Green.

bbc.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:30:07am

re: #63 Rocky-in-Connecticut

That’s the idea. A significant percentage of American right wing wants a dysfunctional government that leads to its inevitable collapse and disbandment into absolute local control.

A warlord-style Protestant Christian autocracy is their idea of “freedom.”

When we’re taught about the Pilgrims in school, we’re shown them as victims of the Stuarts making Anglicanism the state church. Although James I and Charles I deserve their criticism, the Pilgrims were religious radicals who weren’t looking for true religious freedom. They wanted a state where they could be the dominant denomination and oppress others.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:31:09am

re: #73 Dr Lizardo

And another neo-Nazi goes to the slammer (in the UK):

bbc.com

28 years old. Born 45 years after the war’s end. Probably had a grandfather who served in the British Armed Forces during WWII.

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DangerMan  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:33:21am

re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The party had an opportunity to distance themselves from these people, but did not want to risk ….. losing an election or two. .

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:37:38am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

When we’re taught about the Pilgrims in school, we’re shown them as victims of the Stuarts making Anglicanism the state church. Although James I and Charles I deserve their criticism, the Pilgrims were religious radicals who weren’t looking for true religious freedom. They wanted a state where they could be the dominant denomination and oppress others.

That’s just it; the Pilgrims were religious fanatics seeking to establish a theocratic state. When they couldn’t do that back in Merry Old England, they ran off to Holland and out of fear of not being able to maintain their strictly sectarian identity, decided to go the New World instead where they’d be essentially unchallenged.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:37:57am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

28 years old. Born 45 years after the war’s end. Probably had a grandfather who served in the British Armed Forces during WWII.

Yeah.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:41:17am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

That’s just it; the Pilgrims were religious fanatics seeking to establish a theocratic state. When they couldn’t do that back in Merry Old England, they ran off to Holland and out of fear of not being able to maintain their strictly sectarian identity, decided to go the New World instead where they’d be essentially unchallenged.

Too often we’ve only gotten the White Protestant view of history.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:41:37am

I love seeing morning headlines that make me smile:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:42:18am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

When we’re taught about the Pilgrims in school, we’re shown them as victims of the Stuarts making Anglicanism the state church. Although James I and Charles I deserve their criticism, the Pilgrims were religious radicals who weren’t looking for true religious freedom. They wanted a state where they could be the dominant denomination and oppress others.

that is one of the great Founding Myths of America

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:42:34am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

Guess I’ll have to wait a bit to do the update. No problem.

Meanwhile, Trump cancelled a scheduled Q&A in front of the NAACP.

fox2detroit.com

Pathetic coward.

He got told the audience won’t take “Go back to Africa” as an answer to every question.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:42:54am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

That’s just it; the Pilgrims were religious fanatics seeking to establish a theocratic state. When they couldn’t do that back in Merry Old England, they ran off to Holland and out of fear of not being able to maintain their strictly sectarian identity, decided to go the New World instead where they’d be essentially unchallenged.

In Mrs. Fish’s argument with her hyper-wingnut relative last night, the lady tried to claim that the Pilgrims founded this country as a Christian nation. I reminded Mrs. Fish to point out that the first North American immigrants weren’t the Pilgrims, they were business people who settled in Virginia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:46:06am

re: #65 makeitstop

Holy crap. Local reading…

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I was just outside, and they ain’t lyin’.

It was a mere 78F here in TheBackwoods at 7 am, with 100% humidity…it was NOT raining, nor had it rained in more than 24 hours.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:47:13am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

That’s just it; the Pilgrims were religious fanatics seeking to establish a theocratic state. When they couldn’t do that back in Merry Old England, they ran off to Holland and out of fear of not being able to maintain their strictly sectarian identity, decided to go the New World instead where they’d be essentially unchallenged.

In the New World, where they could ban Christmas.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:47:42am

re: #83 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

In Mrs. Fish’s argument with her hyper-wingnut relative last night, the lady tried to claim that the Pilgrims founded this country as a Christian nation. I reminded Mrs. Fish to point out that the first North American immigrants weren’t the Pilgrims, they were business people who settled in Virginia.

I just read through a section in Jill Lepore’s These Truths where she argues that church-going was at its lowest in the last half of the 18th century and first 20 years of the 19th and that few “Americans” would have cared much about the idea of America as a Christian nation; and as we all know, the founders worked very hard to keep religion out of the Constitution. The idea that America is a Christian nation was cooked up during the Second Great Awakening in the 1820s and 1830s, something the founders would have abhorred.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:49:01am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

When we’re taught about the Pilgrims in school, we’re shown them as victims of the Stuarts making Anglicanism the state church. Although James I and Charles I deserve their criticism, the Pilgrims were religious radicals who weren’t looking for true religious freedom. They wanted a state where they could be the dominant denomination and oppress others.

Let’s ask the Puritans themselves about their thoughts on religious freedom:

Massachusetts Proscribes Quakers (May 24, 1677)

As an addition to the last law relating to Quakers meeting, the constables of every town are hereby required to make diligent search in their respective towns, especially on the Lord’s day, in all suspected places and houses, and where they know or may be informed that any Quakers are met to celebrate their irregular and prohibited worship, and are hereby empowered to break open any door where peaceable entrance is denied them, and such persons as shall be found at such meetings shall be apprehended and proceeded with and punished as the law provides in that case. And every constable neglecting his duty herein, and being legally convicted thereof, shall forfeit the sum of forty shillings to the use of the county. And for all such persons as shall be prosecuted or complained of for absenting themselves from the public allowed worship of God on the Lord’s day, and will not so much as affirm they were there or necessarily absent by the providence of God, it shall be adjudged a conviction and the breach of the law and punished accordingly.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:49:32am

re: #86 Barefoot Grin

America is a country of religious freedom, not a place of religious freedom.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:49:42am

re: #83 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

In Mrs. Fish’s argument with her hyper-wingnut relative last night, the lady tried to claim that the Pilgrims founded this country as a Christian nation. I reminded Mrs. Fish to point out that the first North American immigrants weren’t the Pilgrims, they were business people who settled in Virginia.

Indeed - the Pilgrims came later. But this whole idea that “Pilgrims founded America” is ridiculous…..and bad history at best, historical revisionism at worst.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:49:57am

re: #83 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

In Mrs. Fish’s argument with her hyper-wingnut relative last night, the lady tried to point out that the Pilgrims founded this country as a Christian nation. I reminded Mrs. Fish to point out that the first North American immigrants weren’t the Pilgrims, they were business people who settled in Virginia.

I am sick to fuck of the “America is a Christian Nation” riff I have been hearing, it really took off with the Evangelical Wave of the late 70’s and has found an advocate in the form of our current VPOTUS.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:51:17am

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

In the New World, where they could ban Christmas.

Which they did.

The original “War on Christmas” came from Calvinist fanatics - a fact swept under the rug by their ideological descendants.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:51:27am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sick to fuck of the “America is a Christian Nation” riff I have been hearing, it really took off with the Evangelical Wave of the late 70’s and has found an advocate in the form of our current VPOTUS.

It’s one of the founding tenets of wingnut Christianity, because the belief that America is God’s Chosen Nation is central to their arguments supporting implementing a theocratic state.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:52:47am

re: #91 Dr Lizardo

Which they did.

The original “War on Christmas” came from Calvinist fanatics - a fact swept under the rug by their ideological descendants.

Yep!

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Mescalero09  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:55:37am

re: #71 makeitstop

Hey long time no talk to. Hope all is good in your part of the world. A while back you had spoke about a Tech 21 FLY pedals to simplify your travels. I was never a fan of all in one pedals, but they have their place, I guess. Have you seen these?
This is a whole new game. $67 bucks, power supply included and free shipping. And they have a few versions.
koo koo.
Here’s one of the people I watch to get the gist of pedals. I know you saw him before. But how nuts is this at that price?

Sonicake ROCKSTAGE multi effect pedal Sonicbar Series (high gain, chorus, delay, verb)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:56:52am

re: #92 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s one of the founding tenets of wingnut Christianity, because the belief that America is God’s Chosen Nation is central to their arguments supporting implementing a theocratic state.

in which their interpretation of Scripture is binding law

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2019 • 6:58:42am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

in which their interpretation of Scripture is binding law

Yeah, that was my favorite part of Mrs. Fish’s argument last night. The other lady was like, “Well, Jesus basically made all of the Old Testament irrelevant,” and I snorted and responded to Mrs. Fish, “Yeah, but only she gets to decide which parts are relevant and which aren’t.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:01:35am

The Pilgrims founded the Massachusetts Bay Colony as Christian but the United States was intended to be free of such nonsense.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:02:50am

moron

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:04:51am

re: #83 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

In Mrs. Fish’s argument with her hyper-wingnut relative last night, the lady tried to claim that the Pilgrims founded this country as a Christian nation. I reminded Mrs. Fish to point out that the first North American immigrants weren’t the Pilgrims, they were business people who settled in Virginia.

And the Pilgrims weren’t alone on the trip.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:05:15am

Miss Michigan 2019 winner Kathy Zhu was stripped of her title on Thursday for “offensive, insensitive and inappropriate” social media posts, she said Thursday.

Zhu, 20, tweeted Thursday what appeared to be a screenshot of an email she received from Miss World America officials, who told her she was dismissed from being a pageant participant.

“Miss World America’s State/National/Chief Director accused me of being racist, Islamaphobic, and insensitive,” Zhu tweeted. “They stripped me of my Miss Michigan title due to my refusal to try on a hijab in 2018, my tweet about black on black gun violence, and ‘insensitive’ statistical tweets.”

womp womp

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:06:28am

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was a mere 78F here in TheBackwoods at 7 am, with 100% humidity…it was NOT raining, nor had it rained in more than 24 hours.

And not much than an hour later…

Gah.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:06:39am

re: #97 HappyWarrior

The Pilgrims founded the Massachusetts Bay Colony as Christian but the United States was intended to be free of such nonsense.

And that seems to be so easily lost on people. The Founders were like: “Okay, you people can have Churches and Christian settlements and whatever, no big deal. But we are NOT as a nation, going to declare ourselves as being under any one specific religion.”

And if you know the history between the Church and the Monarchy in Britain from the Middle Ages through the 1700s, you know full damn well why these folks wanted to keep state mandated religion OUT of their new country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:08:01am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:09:06am

Here’s the outlook where I’m at today down on the Gulf Coast. Actually quite temperate for this time of year, though we did have a hot spell a week or so ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:09:46am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:10:49am

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tots and pears.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:11:52am

re: #94 Mescalero09

Hey long time no talk to. Hope all is good in your part of the world. A while back you had spoke about a Tech 21 FLY pedals to simplify your travels. I was never a fan of all in one pedals, but they have their place, I guess. Have you seen these?
This is a whole new game. $67 bucks, power supply included and free shipping. And they have a few versions.
koo koo.
Here’s one of the people I watch to get the gist of pedals. I know you saw him before. But how nuts is this at that price?

[Embedded content]

Hey, man. Sorry to hear about your health problems, hope you bounce back fast.

Seems like everybody’s making those all in ones now. I got one by Mooer, called the Red Truck. Similar design, a little more pricey than that one. But then I went all in and got their new flagship, the GE-300 board. Still dialing it in, but man, does it sound good.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:13:03am

re: #102 Eclectic Cyborg

And that seems to be so easily lost on people. The Founders were like: “Okay, you people can have Churches and Christian settlements and whatever, no big deal. But we are NOT as a nation, going to declare ourselves as being under any one specific religion.”

And if you know the history between the Church and the Monarchy in Britain from the Middle Ages through the 1700s, you know full damn well why these folks wanted to keep state mandated religion OUT of their new country.

The Thirty Years’ War (1618-1648) was still relatively recent history when the Constitution was being drawn up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:15:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:17:16am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:18:53am

re: #51 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim from the wild north country. The weather is finally supposed to turn cool, after a long two weeks of brutal heat punctuated by the occasional severe thunderstorm. How go things among the lizardfolk on this cloudy, rainy Saturday?

85 F, clear and sunny. Supposed to hit 95 F today. Very humid and muggy with the hit indexes topping 100 easily. Good day to stay inside with the A/C if you have it.

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Old Liberal  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:20:53am

re: #19 Ace-o-aces

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I’ll tell you what triggers me about the US flag. All the “patriotic” morons who leave their dirty shredded flag up 24/7. They violate the Flag Code in every conceivable way but tell you what great americans they are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:21:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:22:51am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:23:27am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I can’t stand that British fascist fuckwaffle.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:24:37am

re: #102 Eclectic Cyborg

And that seems to be so easily lost on people. The Founders were like: “Okay, you people can have Churches and Christian settlements and whatever, no big deal. But we are NOT as a nation, going to declare ourselves as being under any one specific religion.”

And if you know the history between the Church and the Monarchy in Britain from the Middle Ages through the 1700s, you know full damn well why these folks wanted to keep state mandated religion OUT of their new country.

We have so many people who reject the Enlightenment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:24:42am
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mmmirele  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:25:16am

Most everyone knows that I work for an evil too big to fail financial institution that has been the whipping boy of Elizabeth Warren over the last few years.

My sister works for a huge (larger than my evil too big to fail employer) health care services company. This company is accused, along with other huge health care services companies and enormous pharmacy chains, of basically employing no controls over the filling of oxycodone and hydrocodone orders.

On Friday, a judge in a massive case brought by many jurisdictions ordered the unsealing of emails and other documents in the case. The link below documents what has been found so far by busy beavery reporters.

washingtonpost.com

Earlier this week it came out that these companies had shipped out 76 billion (not a typo) oxycodone and hydrocodone pills between 2006 and 2012. I did some back of the envelope math, and that’s about 237 pills for every person in the USA. Yikes.

So is it wrong for me to feel a tiny bit of schadenfreude that my sisters massive employer is getting heat?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:27:08am

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

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womp womp

I wish they would shut the fuck up about “black on black” crime. Did FNC ever have a bunch of black people sitting around talking about how Bernie Madoff’s crimes were part of the “epidemic” of “white on white crime” No, it was seen as just crime. Most crime is just crime. And the reason is simple why BLM has protested against police brutality towards AFrican-Americans. It’s because the black people who commit crimes against other black people get punished. Robert McCullouch and other DAs aren’t excusing them because of a pre-existing bias but people like him sure as hell do when it comes to the cops or people like George Zimmerman woh get treated as heroes when they kill unarmed black people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:27:14am
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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:28:02am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

We have so many people who reject the Enlightenment.

We live in The Dimming. The Dimmest of all is in the White House, with the glow of his faked-up hair.

Time to light one candle. Or more.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:29:37am

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We didn’t make him call Mexicans rapists. We didn’t make him bring up the name and ethnic background of the judge judging his case for fraud and incite his crowds. We didn’t tell David Duke to praise him. We didn’t tell him to attack a Gold Star family’s ethnicity and religion who were critical of him. We didn’t tell him to praise the assholes in Charlottesville. And we didn’t tell him to respond the way he did to the Squad. He’s the way he is because he’s a fucking racist asshole and conservatives are so full of delusions about liberals and their own ideology that they will never take ownership of this.

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Mescalero09  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:30:13am

re: #107 makeitstop

Thanks. I’m the other way. I like my individual pedals. Probably had over 2 hundred come and go. I have my rig now as I like it. It’s a quest. I had Korg A5 back in the day. Never quite did it for me. I have to pop in and out here, but check what Tim Pierce has. He’s a huge talent, session man extraordinaire, and has an incredible set up. Check out the blast room. He’s amazing.

What amp is BEST! 10 Amp Test | Marshall Vox Diezel Matchless Park Naylor PRS Naylor Tim Pierce

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:30:47am

I hate Trump, but I also hate the way he elevates such horrible people.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:30:55am

re: #97 HappyWarrior

The Pilgrims founded the Massachusetts Bay Colony as Christian but the United States was intended to be free of such nonsense.

There were two groups of Puritans who established colonies in North America. The first group, historians call the Pilgrims, wanted to separate from the Anglican Church. They first went to Holland but didn’t like that their kids were becoming too Dutch. So, they went to North America where they established Plymouth Colony (which was eventually absorbed into Massachusetts Bay Colony).

The second group, who wanted to reform the Anglican Church from within, created the Massachusetts Bay Company to establish a colony in North America. This was originally a financial endeavor first and religious mission second, but before they left England, some of the investors dropped out and were replaced with staunch Puritans. The religious goals of the project moved to the top of the list. These were the Puritans who wanted to create the “city on the hill” so that all world would see the reforms they made and the Anglican Church would magically change.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:31:03am

…and we just cracked the century mark, ‘real feel’ at nearly 130.

At 10:30 AM local time.

This area might just burst into flames by noon.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:32:17am

re: #118 mmmirele

So is it wrong for me to feel a tiny bit of schadenfreude that my sisters massive employer is getting heat?

Sisterhood has a dark side. Tiny bit of Schadenfreude; OK.

I was going to say something about my sisters, but I shall refrain.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:33:07am

re: #126 makeitstop

This is what the Greater Delaware Valley is dealing with:
weather.gov

I am hiding out in Wegman’s in King of Prussia. The A/C is delightfully a little too cold. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:33:14am

re: #124 Eclectic Cyborg

I hate Trump, but I also hate the way he elevates such horrible people.

I could have lived my life and not known who Milo, Katie Hopkins, Cerno, and a bunch of these other alt right clowns are. you know what gets me though? A lot of them are around my age. They probably had a similar historical education that I did.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:35:06am

re: #125 Teddy’s Person

There were two groups of Puritans who established colonies in North America. The first group, historians call the Pilgrims, wanted to separate from the Anglican Church. They first went to Holland but didn’t like that their kids were becoming too Dutch. So, they went to North America where they established Plymouth Colony (which was eventually absorbed into Massachusetts Bay Colony).

The second group, who wanted to reform the Anglican Church from within, created the Massachusetts Bay Company to establish a colony in North America. This was originally a financial endeavor first and religious mission second, but before they left England, some of the investors dropped out and were replaced with staunch Puritans. The religious goals of the project moved to the top of the list. These were the Puritans who wanted to create the “city on the hill” so that all world would see the reforms they made and the Anglican Church would magically change.

That’s right.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:35:58am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

I could have lived my life and not known who Milo, Katie Hopkins, Cerno, and a bunch of these other alt right clowns are. you know what gets me though? A lot of them are around my age. They probably had a similar historical education that I did.

Right but a lot of these people aren’t actually nutjobs, they just play act nutjobs to grift the rubes.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:36:23am

We live in the Information Age.

A disturbing new study reveals that studies are disturbing. (Ellen Degeneres)

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:40:51am

Anybody that has to be outside today- stay hydrated and be safe.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:41:04am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:42:59am

re: #128 PhillyPretzel

This is what the Greater Delaware Valley is dealing with:
weather.gov

I am hiding out in Wegman’s in King of Prussia. The A/C is delightfully a little too cold. :)

You should come down to visit. I’m a little ways south of there.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:43:22am

re: #133 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Anybody that has to be outside today- stay hydrated and be safe.

I am also a fan of indoor hydration and safety.

But I will be outside. Time to switch from coffee to water.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:44:06am

It’s 76 degrees F in Lower Alabama. The world turned upside down.

Youtube Video

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:45:17am

re: #135 Feline Fearless Leader

Maybe some day when I have wheels. Right now my main mode of transportation is SEPTA.

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Old Liberal  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:45:25am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Impossible. Earth is only 6000 years old.

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sagehen  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:45:52am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s more than 10x the population of Anymouse’s town.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:46:55am

re: #123 Mescalero09

Thanks. I’m the other way. I like my individual pedals. Probably had over 2 hundred come and go. I have my rig now as I like it. It’s a quest. I had Korg A5 back in the day. Never quite did it for me. I have to pop in and out here, but check what Tim Pierce has. He’s a huge talent, session man extraordinaire, and has an incredible set up. Check out the blast room. He’s amazing.

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Whoa. That’s one crazy rig. Wish I had the space for something like that.

(I’ll include some extra guitar geekery in a PM. Don’t wanna bore everybody, but you might like it.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:46:57am

re: #126 makeitstop

…and we just cracked the century mark, ‘real feel’ at nearly 130.

At 10:30 AM local time.

This area might just burst into flames by noon.

Well, you could always live in Ohio, where the rivers literally burst into flame.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:48:29am

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good for him. But I’m still not listening to his albums.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:49:11am

re: #138 PhillyPretzel

Maybe some day when I have wheels. Right now my main mode of transportation is SEPTA.

Ah. Easier for me to go to KoP than other way around. Makes sense.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:49:42am

re: #142 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Well, you could always live in Ohio, where the rivers literally burst into flame.

We have arroyos. Sometimes the weeds catch fire. Usually, there’s human involvement.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:50:05am

So is Trump’s actual Iranian policy just a remake of his NAFTA policy: abandoning the original, negotiating a “new” deal that will turn out to be essentially the same as the original, and then claiming credit for his brilliant skills? Big bonus here for him is that it will be a Trump treaty replacing an Obama treaty.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:51:58am

re: #146 Hecuba’s daughter

So is Trump’s actual Iranian policy just a remake of his NAFTA policy, abandoning the original, negotiating a “new” deal that will turn out to be essentially the same as the original, and then claiming credit for his brilliant skills? Big bonus here for him is that it will be a Trump treaty replacing an Obama treaty.

Given all the saber rattling how do you get a “new” treaty with Iran when you’ve already proved that the USA under his control will not keep the previous one and also appears to be attempting to get a cause belli for a war at the same time?

Unless this is some belief that Iran can be bullied into accepting something.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:56:05am

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:02:06am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

That’s just it; the Pilgrims were religious fanatics seeking to establish a theocratic state. When they couldn’t do that back in Merry Old England, they ran off to Holland and out of fear of not being able to maintain their strictly sectarian identity, decided to go the New World instead where they’d be essentially unchallenged.

Reminder to Google “Cromwell” to see how the Radical Xtians got political control in England and ran it into the ground!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:05:55am

I see Buzz Aldrin met with Trump yesterday. Shame he couldn’t punch him too.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:06:53am

Right now in Los Angeles (805 AM) it’s 67 degrees with 72% humidity projected to go to 76 today. But it’s going to warm up starting Wednesday.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:07:19am

re: #147 Feline Fearless Leader

Given all the saber rattling how do you get a “new” treaty with Iran when you’ve already proved that the USA under his control will not keep the previous one and also appears to be attempting to get a cause belli for a war at the same time?

Unless this is some belief that Iran can be bullied into accepting something.

Bolton and Pompeo are lusting for war — Trump, not so much. Iran’s leaders are not stupid; they are probably studying the NK playbook to see how to manipulate him into giving them everything they want, including nuclear weapons.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:08:05am

re: #150 Eclectic Cyborg

I see Buzz Aldrin met with Trump yesterday. Shame he couldn’t punch him too.

Punching the president is not a good idea. Even this one. The lines would block traffic.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:09:32am

103 now, real feel of 135. Imma just fill up the bathtub with ice cubes and lay in it.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:10:18am

re: #56 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Need to finish the job.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:15:48am

re: #149 Joe Bacon 🌹

Reminder to Google “Cromwell” to see how the Radical Xtians got political control in England and ran it into the ground!

Yeah but Anglo Saxon Jude’s-Christian something something. And yeah I know all too much about Cromwell.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:16:44am

re: #149 Joe Bacon 🌹

Reminder to Google “Cromwell” to see how the Radical Xtians got political control in England and ran it into the ground!

Pretty much. Cromwell ended up being a disaster for England.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:17:02am

re: #146 Hecuba’s daughter

So is Trump’s actual Iranian policy just a remake of his NAFTA policy: abandoning the original, negotiating a “new” deal that will turn out to be essentially the same as the original, and then claiming credit for his brilliant skills? Big bonus here for him is that it will be a Trump treaty replacing an Obama treaty.

Tracking this, a rather ominous sign.

nbcnews.com
July 19, 2019, 3:42 PM PDT / Updated July 20, 2019, 6:45 AM PDT
By Courtney Kube
ASPEN, Colo. — In June the U.S. military began moving equipment and hundreds of troops back to a military base in Saudi Arabia that the U.S. deserted more than 15 years ago, according to two U.S. officials familiar with the deployment.

Over the coming weeks the deployment to Prince Sultan Air Base, intended to counter the threat from Iran, will grow to include fighter jets and Patriot long-range missile defense systems, the officials said. The Patriots have already arrived at the base and should be operational in mid-July, while the aircraft are expected to arrive in August.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:17:19am

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You were fine with it. You pattern your speeches from Hitler and the response from your cult.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:17:57am

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

Pretty much. Cromwell ended up being a disaster for England.

And for the Irish too. Awful human being.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:22:26am

Here in the Metro Atlanta area it’s cooled off a lot, high in mid 80s today and it’s been raining pretty steady this morning. The Kid has tickets to see Iron Maiden today, outdoors. He and his friends are going to have a wet, muddy mess of a time. Wish I was going…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:23:52am

re: #141 makeitstop

Whoa. That’s one crazy rig. Wish I had the space for something like that.

(I’ll include some extra guitar geekery in a PM. Don’t wanna bore everybody, but you might like it.)

I wouldn’t mind!

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A Mom Anon  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:31:02am

I see nothing wrong with music geekery, even if I don’t understand a thing you’re talking about, lol.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:32:37am

re: #152 Hecuba’s daughter

Bolton and Pompeo are lusting for war — Trump, not so much. Iran’s leaders are not stupid; they are probably studying the NK playbook to see how to manipulate him into giving them everything they want, including nuclear weapons.

Add Booby Nincimpoopo into the war chanters too.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:35:34am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:37:45am

You need to check out the Apollo 11 Google Doodle. It’s an animated video narrated by Michael Collins himself. Incredible.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:41:24am

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

You need to check out the Apollo 11 Google Doodle. It’s an animated video narrated by Michael Collins himself. Incredible.

It’s nice to hear from Mike Collins too. Him, Neil, & Buzz are forever in our memories.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:43:52am

Writing time and then off to see my daughter. She picked an indoor activity. could it be because it’s 100 in NYC?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:44:18am

re: #163 A Mom Anon

I see nothing wrong with music geekery, even if I don’t understand a thing you’re talking about, lol.

Well then….you’ll love this.

The most feared song in jazz, explained

Some hardcore music geekery there.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:49:04am

re: #65 makeitstop

It’s only 86 deg F here (92 with humiture) right now. Expected to get to 100+ deg F with 110-115 humiture today and tomorrow

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Mescalero09  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:49:11am

re: #141 makeitstop

I wish I had the money to have that. That is a small fortune.

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KGxvi  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:50:26am

re: #152 Hecuba’s daughter

Bolton and Pompeo are lusting for war — Trump, not so much. Iran’s leaders are not stupid; they are probably studying the NK playbook to see how to manipulate him into giving them everything they want, including nuclear weapons.

Kim has been playing Trump for a fool from the jump. And it’s worked. The suspension of joint training operations with South Korea have strengthened North Korea’s position because South Korea has a conscript military that sees massive turn over year to year. He’s been legitimized on the world stage, and continues to build nuclear weapons because he know Trump won’t actually do anything.

I suspect the Iranian hardliners have learned from that. They know that Trump doesn’t command respect from our allies, which allows them to be provocative since they figure our allies won’t want to join Trump in military misadventures.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:50:47am

Does anyone know much about this kind of bird? It’s on a rack near our back door, and while it’s holding itself up, it isn’t going anywhere and only moves its head when we get close.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:51:02am

re: #57 HappyWarrior

That too. I don’t think it’s going to work though because he’s a dumbass.

Ayup… One of the local tabloids sez the Mango Menace offered to pay A$AP Rocky’s bail, only that Sweden does not have a bail system at all…
aftonbladet.se

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:52:39am

re: #173 Belafon

If he sticks around, give it a name.

I suggest Randall Flagg. Sorta looks like a Randall Flagg.

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mmmirele  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:52:50am

re: #87 Teddy’s Person

The Puritans of the Massachusetts Bay Colony loathed Quakers, and indeed executed four English Quaker evangelists in 1659 and 1660, including a woman, Mary Dyer. This did not go over well in Merrie Olde England, and the recently-restored King Charles II sent royal disapproval of this policy of execution.

en.wikipedia.org

The history of religion in the Massachusetts Bay Colony is actually quite fascinating. There was of course this conflict with the Quakers, but also internal conflict as later generations of Puritans didn’t have the special experience that the older Puritans expected to indicate one had been “saved”. So you’d get these splits with a First Church and a Second Church in the same town, with the First Church people having assurance of their salvation and the Second Church people not being quite as assured (it’s a bit more complex than that). It’s worth remembering that out of this also came the Baptists (Roger Williams was tossed out of Massachusetts Bay) and the Unitarians much later.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:53:13am

re: #174 Teukka

Ayup… One of the local tabloids sez the Mango Menace offered to pay A$AP Rocky’s bail, only that Sweden does not have a bail system at all…
aftonbladet.se

Other tabloid sez same story as well… *facepalm*
expressen.se

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Mescalero09  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:53:32am

re: #173 Belafon

Get a can of cheap soft cat food. Whatever it is it’s a fledgling. Feed it off the tip of your finger and drizzle water into it’s mouth. It just may be exhausted.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:54:09am

re: #173 Belafon

A reverse image search suggests the little guy is one of these…

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Mescalero09  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:56:40am

re: #148 makeitstop

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:58:46am

re: #171 Mescalero09

I wish I had the money to have that. That is a small fortune.

Oops, responded to the wrong post here.

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mmmirele  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:59:12am

re: #127 wrenchwench

Sisterhood has a dark side. Tiny bit of Schadenfreude; OK.

I was going to say something about my sisters, but I shall refrain.

My sister, I should note, has become a fan of QAnon. I can’t even talk to her any more. If I have anything to say, I relay it through our brother. I don’t have much to say, except to thank her for gifts she makes for me. (She is an excellent seamstress and made me a very nice purse last Christmas.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:59:36am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:01:10am

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

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I have no idea why Trump singles out the NYT when they co-sign on his bs. I get why a more astute baiter would.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:01:20am

re: #180 Mescalero09

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mmmirele  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:02:45am

Weather here, locally:

Humidity is 17 percent.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:03:54am

re: #186 mmmirele

Weather here, locally:

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Humidity is 17 percent.

Wish we had that humidity here. Walking outside is like breathing through a wet towel right now.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:05:18am

re: #186 mmmirele

Weather here, locally:

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Humidity is 17 percent.

Yeah but it got cold in Paul Ryan’s district so climate change is a lie. I guess at least it’s not humid. But this has been the hottest summer I can remember.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:05:46am

re: #182 mmmirele

My sister, I should note, has become a fan of QAnon. I can’t even talk to her any more. If I have anything to say, I relay it through our brother. I don’t have much to say, except to thank her for gifts she makes for me. (She is an excellent seamstress and made me a very nice purse last Christmas.)

I know the feeling since my “born again” Xtain relatives pore over every latest bird dropping from the Q shit. Now they believe that Soros paid for hit men to take out JFK Jr on the 4th of July so he would not appear at Trump’s parade.

They are now convinced Trump will declare Martial Law right before Mueller begins to testify this week. Q is telling them that special cells in Guantanamo are being prepared for Soros and his Democratic acolytes…

I’m sure that next week they will move on to the next set of Q shit…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:05:49am

re: #187 makeitstop

Wish we had that humidity here. Walking outside is like breathing through a wet towel right now.

Yeah our east coast humidity is awful.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:06:29am

re: #186 mmmirele

re: #187 makeitstop

The latest from NWS Philly International Airport (It is not pretty):
forecast.weather.gov

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:06:46am

re: #187 makeitstop

Wish we had that humidity here. Walking outside is like breathing through a wet towel right now.

90 here with humidity of 63%! But at least it’s apparently not reaching the 100 degrees originally predicted.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:07:30am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

I have no idea why Trump singles out the NYT when they co-sign on his bs. I get why a more astute baiter would.

No paper did more damage to Hillary than the Screw York Times. And they still cover for his crimes.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:10:22am

re: #191 PhillyPretzel

The latest from NWS Philly International Airport (It is not pretty):
forecast.weather.gov

Yikes!

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Mattand  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:12:46am

re: #191 PhillyPretzel

The latest from NWS Philly International Airport (It is not pretty):
forecast.weather.gov

Yeah, it’s 96° here now. I should’ve been out at 9 and started the lawn. Don’t know if that’s a good idea now.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:13:07am

re: #189 Joe Bacon 🌹

I know the feeling since my “born again” Xtain relatives pore over every latest bird dropping from the Q shit. Now they believe that Soros paid for hit men to take out JFK Jr on the 4th of July so he would not appear at Trump’s parade.

They are now convinced Trump will declare Martial Law right before Mueller begins to testify this week. Q is telling them that special cells in Guantanamo are being prepared for Soros and his Democratic acolytes…

I’m sure that next week they will move on to the next set of Q shit…

QAnon is a classic cult - the constant moving of goalposts, the disregard of failed prophecies, etc.

But I find myself asking - what’s the endgame? What’s the long-term strategy? What’s the payoff? Is there one or is just trolling the rubes? What’s the deal?

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Old Liberal  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:14:13am

re: #196 Dr Lizardo

QAnon is a classic cult - the constant moving of goalposts, the disregard of failed prophecies, etc.

But I find myself asking - what’s the endgame? What’s the long-term strategy? What’s the payoff? Is there one or is just trolling the rubes? What’s the deal?

Any known connections to Russia?

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:14:46am

re: #195 Mattand

I would not recommend it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:15:40am

re: #196 Dr Lizardo

QAnon is a classic cult - the constant moving of goalposts, the disregard of failed prophecies, etc.

But I find myself asking - what’s the endgame? What’s the long-term strategy? What’s the payoff? Is there one or is just trolling the rubes? What’s the deal?

I have no idea.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:16:15am

re: #197 Old Liberal

Any known connections to Russia?

I don’t know. This seems to have sprung from the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, like a sequel.

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Mattand  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:18:48am

re: #196 Dr Lizardo

QAnon is a classic cult - the constant moving of goalposts, the disregard of failed prophecies, etc.

But I find myself asking - what’s the endgame? What’s the long-term strategy? What’s the payoff? Is there one or is just trolling the rubes? What’s the deal?

I honestly think it’s some 4chan shitposter seeing how far he can take this. Strictly for the lulz.

Unfortunately, as the Comet Pizza incident in DC proves, the potential for people getting straight up murdered over this garbage is pretty high. That’s the upsetting thing: thinking there’s some 19 year old basement dweller orchestrating this shit, reading about someone being killed because of it, and then high fiving his buds over the “joke”.

As for dealing with family members: Joe Bacon, I can’t imagine what that’s like. My mom’s side of the family are all garden variety racists which seem quaint compared to the QAnon psychos.

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Mattand  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:20:11am

re: #198 PhillyPretzel

I would not recommend it.

Yeah, I’m gonna wait until tonight and/or tomorrow.

I’m supposed to go see some friends perform in Center City tomorrow and the theater is a fairly old building. I would imagine it’s going to be a hotbox.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:20:20am

re: #196 Dr Lizardo

QAnon is a classic cult - the constant moving of goalposts, the disregard of failed prophecies, etc.

But I find myself asking - what’s the endgame? What’s the long-term strategy? What’s the payoff? Is there one or is just trolling the rubes? What’s the deal?

I could speculate that it’s a diversion to keep ignorant white racists from realizing that they’re being screwed…BUT…I have Diamond & Silk wannabes in my office who continually e-mail Trump about “disloyal” people in my office.

And who are the “disloyal people”? Well they are several gays and lesbians, a Muslim and of course me because D&S believe all Jews belong in Israel ‘cause the Bi-Bull says so…

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Dave In Austin  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:21:55am

re: #203 Joe Bacon 🌹

By name? I’d be going to HR about they shit.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:23:23am

re: #200 Dr Lizardo

There’s a car wash near us called Car Nutz (yes, I know…help me…their mascot is a cartoon squirrel)who also paid for a Q related hashtag billboard for several months right down the street from their business. Hashtag WWG…something..it was like 8 letters long. The billboard is gone now, the car wash is still open for business. At least I know where not to take our cars to be washed.

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mmmirele  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:24:38am

re: #203 Joe Bacon 🌹

This makes me feel glad for working at an evil too big to fail bank. Nobody’s emailing Donald Trump about anything…we’re just trying to stop being under the thumb of the Fed and the OCC.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:25:09am

re: #195 Mattand

Yeah, it’s 96° here now. I should’ve been out at 9 and started the lawn. Don’t know if that’s a good idea now.

Heat-adjace cat story…

Our basement is divided into two halves - on one side is our ‘den’ and the other side is unfinished storage. The storage area has become a favorite hangout for our cats, and it has one small window. And thereby hangs a tale…

I got home from my gig last night and was completely punched out, so I went to bed. I was just about to fall asleep when my wife came in and said ‘There’s a cat on our patio that looks like (our cat) Spock!’ I told her that wasn’t possible because our cats are indoor cats and there’s no way for them to get outside.

(Complicating matters, our next door neighbors got a cat who looks exactly like our cat Spock (grey tabby), so I thought she was seeing the look-alike kitty. And though I told her to just let the cat go, she opened the door to the enclosed porch and let the cat in. I fell asleep, wife came to bed.)

I woke up this morning and the cat was still on the porch. Still thinking it was the look-alike, I went down to the basement to see if I could find Spock. I looked in the storage and didn’t see her, then went and checked the window.

It turns out that the window was actually a piece of Lexan, and the former owners didn’t bother to putty it into the window frame - they just wedged it in. And our Spock got the idea to keep pushing on the window until it gave way and formed a makeshift kitty door. I pushed on the window and it swung open from the bottom, enabling Spock to go on her kitty outdoor adventure.

So I went up and opened the door and let Spock back into the house. The door to the storage area is now closed, all cats are indoors. Spock’s brother Bean sniffed her and got completely freaked out. He now eyes Spock with suspicion. But he’ll get over that, I hope.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:25:25am

re: #205 A Mom Anon

There’s a car wash near us called Car Nutz (yes, I know…help me…their mascot is a cartoon squirrel)who also paid for a Q related hashtag billboard for several months right down the street from their business. Hashtag WWG…something..it was like 8 letters long. The billboard is gone now, the car wash is still open for business. At least I know where not to take our cars to be washed.

Let me help, I speak Asshole:
WWG1WGA—“where we go one, we go all”.

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Mattand  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:26:01am

re: #205 A Mom Anon

There’s a car wash near us called Car Nutz (yes, I know…help me…their mascot is a cartoon squirrel)who also paid for a Q related hashtag billboard for several months right down the street from their business. Hashtag WWG…something..it was like 8 letters long. The billboard is gone now, the car wash is still open for business. At least I know where not to take our cars to be washed.

Yeah, it’s some cray cray acronym for “We We Go As One, We All Go”, or some bullshit like that.

Part of me is upset with myself for knowing about this shit, and part of me considers it essential to know your enemy. Your milage may apply.

The good news for me, at least, is that this particular cult seems to be in short supply in South Jersey/Philly.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:26:56am

re: #165 makeitstop

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Mattand  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:28:33am

re: #207 makeitstop

Heat-adjace cat story…

Our basement is divided into two halves - on one side is our ‘den’ and the other side is unfinished storage. The storage area has become a favorite hangout for our cats, and it has one small window. And thereby hangs a tale…

I got home from my gig last night and was completely punched out, so I went to bed. I was just about to fall asleep when my wife came in and said ‘There’s a cat on our patio that looks like (our cat) Spock!’ I told her that wasn’t possible because our cats are indoor cats and there’s no way for them to get outside.

(Complicating matters, our next door neighbors got a cat who looks exactly like our cat Spock (grey tabby), so I thought she was seeing the look-alike kitty. And though I told her to just let the cat go, she opened the door to the enclosed porch and let the cat in. I fell asleep, wife came to bed.)

I woke up this morning and the cat was still on the porch. Still thinking it was the look-alike, I went down to the basement to see if I could find Spock. I looked in the storage and didn’t see her, then went and checked the window.

It turns out that the window was actually a piece of Lexan, and the former owners didn’t bother to putty it into the window frame - they just wedged it in. And our Spock got the idea to keep pushing on the window until it gave way and formed a makeshift kitty door. I pushed on the window and it swung open from the bottom, enabling Spock to go on her kitty outdoor adventure.

So I went up and opened the door and let Spock back into the house. The door to the storage area is now closed, all cats are indoors. Spock’s brother Bean sniffed her and got completely freaked out. He now eyes Spock with suspicion. But he’ll get over that, I hope.

LOL, cats are something else. I like to think that Spock was silently taunting you two by sitting on the porch. I used to have a cat that did that to the neighbors’ dog. She’d sit about 10 feet from the fence and just calmly watch them go apeshit.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:28:43am

re: #205 A Mom Anon

There’s a car wash near us called Car Nutz (yes, I know…help me…their mascot is a cartoon squirrel)who also paid for a Q related hashtag billboard for several months right down the street from their business. Hashtag WWG…something..it was like 8 letters long. The billboard is gone now, the car wash is still open for business. At least I know where not to take our cars to be washed.

Ah yes….WWG1WGA. Wiggawigga!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:29:19am

re: #204 Dave In Austin

By name? I’d be going to HR about they shit.

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Mattand  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:29:52am

re: #208 Decatur Deb

Let me help, I speak Asshole:
WWG1WGA—“where we go one, we go all”.

LOL at the bolded.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:30:32am

re: #205 A Mom Anon

There’s a car wash near us called Car Nutz (yes, I know…help me…their mascot is a cartoon squirrel)who also paid for a Q related hashtag billboard for several months right down the street from their business. Hashtag WWG…something..it was like 8 letters long. The billboard is gone now, the car wash is still open for business. At least I know where not to take our cars to be washed.

WWGOWGA - Where we go one, we go all. Or something like that.

The QAnon motto. Although ‘WABOSMF’ (we’re a bunch of stupid motherfuckers) is a nice substitute.

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Mattand  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:36:21am

re: #215 makeitstop

WWGOWGA - Where we go one, we go all. Or something like that.

The QAnon motto. Although ‘WABOSMF’ (we’re a bunch of stupid motherfuckers) is a nice substitute.

I was reading an article about them on Splinter or Jezebel, some sort of Gawker family site. To a person, the adherents that were interviewed all admitted to being turned into pariahs by family and friends.

I’ll be straight-up honest, I thought “Good”. It may not come across here but I really try to be as empathetic as possible to be people, particularly ones who get sucked into this kind of stuff. But the QAnon stuff? Fuck them. Trump is a secret superhero fighting a pedophile HRC? JFK Jr. is still alive????

This shit is patently absurd at immediate first glance. I’m saving my empathy for those who deserve it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:37:53am

Music Break 2: Guitar Cura Boogaloo.

Özgür Baba - Dertli Dolap

He’s playing “Dertli Dolap”, a traditional Turkish folk song, and playing a cura, which is the smallest member of the bağlama family (a traditional stringed instrument) with the highest pitched sound

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:39:15am

re: #216 Mattand

I was reading an article about them on Splinter or Jezebel, some sort of Gawker family site. To a person, the adherents that were interviewed all admitted to being turned into pariahs by family and friends.

I’ll be straight-up honest, I thought “Good”. It may not come across here but I really try to be as empathetic as possible to be people, particularly ones who get sucked into this kind of stuff. But the QAnon stuff? Fuck them. Trump is a secret superhero fighting a pedophile HRC? JFK Jr. is still alive????

This shit is patently absurd at immediate first glance. I’m saving my empathy for those who deserve it.

The kicker is that there IS a pedophile ring—And it’s run by Trump’s BFF Epstein. And involved in the ring are Wexler, George Nader, and I would not be surprised if Miss Lindsay and Gym Jordan are also involved as well.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:39:32am

re: #210 Barefoot Grin

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Mattand  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:40:49am

re: #218 Joe Bacon 🌹

The kicker is that there IS a pedophile ring—And it’s run by Trump’s BFF Epstein. And involved in the ring are Wexler, George Nader, and I would not be surprised if Miss Lindsay and Gym Jordan are also involved as well.

Goddamn, never thought of that before.

That is is some serious freaking deflection.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:43:04am

re: #216 Mattand

I was reading an article about them on Splinter or Jezebel, some sort of Gawker family site. To a person, the adherents that were interviewed all admitted to being turned into pariahs by family and friends.

I’ll be straight-up honest, I thought “Good”. It may not come across here but I really try to be as empathetic as possible to be people, particularly ones who get sucked into this kind of stuff. But the QAnon stuff? Fuck them. Trump is a secret superhero fighting a pedophile HRC? JFK Jr. is still alive????

This shit is patently absurd at immediate first glance. I’m saving my empathy for those who deserve it.

I cannot imagine the lengths they go to to even try to sustain plausibility of that bullshit. First JFK Jr. was going to ‘reveal himself’ at Trump’s fascist-fest on July 4 (which of course didn’t happen because the man is fucking dead).

And when it didn’t happen, it was because Soros had him knocked off.

I mean, there have always been gullible people. But this is like The Rise of the Super-Rubes.

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Old Liberal  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:44:09am

re: #203 Joe Bacon 🌹

I could speculate that it’s a diversion to keep ignorant white racists from realizing that they’re being screwed…BUT…I have Diamond & Silk wannabes in my office who continually e-mail Trump about “disloyal” people in my office.

And who are the “disloyal people”? Well they are several gays and lesbians, a Muslim and of course me because D&S believe all Jews belong in Israel ‘cause the Bi-Bull says so…

By “diamond and silk types” are you saying African American people?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:45:32am

re: #217 Dr Lizardo

Music Break 2: Guitar Cura Boogaloo.

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Video

He’s playing “Dertli Dolap”, a traditional Turkish folk song, and playing a cura, which is the smallest member of the bağlama family (a traditional stringed instrument) with the highest pitched sound

The place where he is playing looks so tranquil.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:46:24am

re: #222 Old Liberal

By “diamond and silk types” are you saying African American people?

I think he’s referring to a certain subset of African American people.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:48:04am

re: #208 Decatur Deb

Lol, yep that’s the one. Why the hell that was so important it has to be on a billboard I have no idea. Under the hashtag it said QAnon, so I knew it was quantum levels of dumb.

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Mattand  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:53:08am

re: #221 makeitstop

I cannot imagine the lengths they go to to even try to sustain plausibility of that bullshit. First JFK Jr. was going to ‘reveal himself’ at Trump’s fascist-fest on July 4 (which of course didn’t happen because the man is fucking dead).

And when it didn’t happen, it was because Soros had him knocked off.

I mean, there have always been gullible people. But this is like The Rise of the Super-Rubes.

What upsets me is these idiots are organized enough to get out and vote, whereas the “independents” and Bernie Bros I know are still threatening another 2020 ballot box sick out if they don’t get their way.

I’m really close to doing a massive soapbox on Facebook about Trump’s racist attacks on AOC and company. I grew up going to family parties listening to the all of the “Greatest” Generation and Baby Boomers cackling about sending black people back to Africa, and other repellent shit.

This is what America is now: your racist uncle or grandparent is running the fucking country for all the world to see. And it sickens me to no end. The few times I’ve tried to talk to the fence sitters, it’s either “Eh, it’ll be fine, I’m not being affected” or the usual “Why bother, they’re all the same” Magic Balance Fairy crap.

I should get out and try to canvas or get involved in some other way, but I know myself. I can’t deal with people who think this way. I’d be fired within hours because I have no patience mollycoddling this crowd, which is probably what is needed to at least crack the door.

I don’t know. I need to do something other than keyboard warrior this stuff.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:53:34am

re: #206 mmmirele

we’re just trying to stop being under the thumb of the Fed and the OCC.

Can you believe the name that was chosen for the SunTrust/BB&T merger - Truist?

And to think some branding outfit got paid good coin to barf out that trainwreck of a name….

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:54:05am

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

The place where he is playing looks so tranquil.

Videos like that are what YouTube was made for. Not QAnon bullshit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:56:00am

re: #228 Dr Lizardo

Videos like that are what YouTube was made for. Not QAnon bullshit.

PREACH

(also, funny pet videos and video game walkthroughs)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:56:37am

My moon landing page is up:

One Small Step…50 years later

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mmmirele  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:02:53am

These are the kind of shitheels that attend Apologia “church”/cult. He follows me on Twitter. I let him follow for now, because I want him to know what the hell I’m up to.

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Mattand  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:03:51am

re: #226 Mattand

Quick addendum before I hit Wawa:

My conundrum is how do you convince white people to vote Republicans out of office? The “independents” cling to the MBF stuff and the Republicans have pretty much demonstrated they’d support Hitler at this point, as long as he cuts taxes for rich people and demonizes minorities.

How do you cut through that horseshit?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:06:14am

re: #231 mmmirele

Question: What in the hell is the National Sentinel?

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A Mom Anon  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:06:14am

re: #226 Mattand

I feel the same. We just had a lady here in our county, who makes no secret of her Democratic Party activism and she’s a part of the state level party apparatus. So her car has bumper stickers supporting dems and liberal causes. Some asshole put trump stickers on her car and then stalked and harassed her for several miles after she got in her car and drove away(she was able to peel the stickers off). He was an asshole who filmed himself doing all that and then posted it to Facebook. She’s pressing charges, he was arrested. Which is surprising honestly.I wouldn’t feel safe knocking on doors here. I’m thinking of doing something less obvious in the community service realm. My kid is grown and I’m at loose ends these days.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:06:43am

re: #231 mmmirele

These are the kind of shitheels that attend Apologia “church”/cult. He follows me on Twitter. I let him follow for now, because I want him to know what the hell I’m up to.

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Trump’s grandfather actually did lie as did Tomi Lehremz ancestor but no one is saying they should be deported. These people can fuck of.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:07:30am

re: #235 HappyWarrior

Trump’s grandfather actually did lie as did Tomi Lehremz ancestor but no one is saying they should be deported. These people can fuck of.

Well, actually…. Ok, just kidding—not funny in current environment.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:08:08am

re: #229 Eclectic Cyborg

PREACH

(also, funny pet videos and video game walkthroughs)

From that same YouTube channel, which seems to be some kind of gold mine of Anatolian/Middle Eastern music, here’s another video:

Pouriya Raisi - Huzûr

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:09:15am

re: #236 Barefoot Grin

Well, actually…. Ok, just kidding—not funny in current environment.

Yeah probably not good to joke about.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:09:31am

re: #213 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Old Liberal  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:11:01am

re: #224 Eclectic Cyborg

I think he’s referring to a certain subset of African American people.

re: #226 Mattand

What upsets me is these idiots are organized enough to get out and vote, whereas the “independents” and Bernie Bros I know are still threatening another 2020 ballot box sick out if they don’t get their way.

I’m really close to doing a massive soapbox on Facebook about Trump’s racist attacks on AOC and company. I grew up going to family parties listening to the all of the “Greatest” Generation and Baby Boomers cackling about sending black people back to Africa, and other repellent shit.

This is what America is now: your racist uncle or grandparent is running the fucking country for all the world to see. And it sickens me to no end. The few times I’ve tried to talk to the fence sitters, it’s either “Eh, it’ll be fine, I’m not being affected” or the usual “Why bother, they’re all the same” Magic Balance Fairy crap.

I should get out and try to canvas or get involved in some other way, but I know myself. I can’t deal with people who think this way. I’d be fired within hours because I have no patience mollycoddling this crowd, which is probably what is needed to at least crack the door.

I don’t know. I need to do something other than keyboard warrior this stuff.

My experience with “canvassing “ was going to confirmed Dem voters. Met a lot of good hearted people. I couldn’t handle idiots either and talking to them is a waste of time.

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mmmirele  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:15:42am

re: #233 Eclectic Cyborg

Question: What in the hell is the National Sentinel?

Real Fake News. Seriously, it’s just a website.

This is part of my larger criticism of many Evangelicals, including this bunch. So many of them believe in a 6,000 year old earth. As we know, the sciences (geology, biology, astronomy, physics, chemistry, etc., etc.) backs up in various ways that the earth is very, very old and is in a much older universe. I like to tell these people: “If you will lie to me about the age of the earth, then why should I believe you when you tell me you know the way to God? In fact, I shouldn’t.”

I think their leader is getting a “James White: Denying your White Privilege is a very bad look” sign tomorrow.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:17:41am

re: #208 Decatur Deb

Let me help, I speak Asshole:
WWG1WGA—“where we go one, we go all”.

Sounds like socialism!!!
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:21:32am

The scary thing about the New Media Reality is that radicals know they can spread the most hideous and contrived smears about their ideological enemies and the Press will treat them as if they had validity, because “trending on Twitter” is a news topic in and of itself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:24:33am
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DangerMan  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:24:45am

re: #232 Mattand

Quick addendum before I hit Wawa:

My conundrum is how do you convince white people to vote Republicans out of office? The “independents” cling to the MBF stuff and the Republicans have pretty much demonstrated they’d support Hitler at this point, as long as he cuts taxes for rich people and demonizes minorities.

How do you cut through that horseshit?

Register more D’s
Get em to vote/to the polls

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:24:59am
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DangerMan  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:26:56am

re: #234 A Mom Anon

I feel the same. We just had a lady here in our county, who makes no secret of her Democratic Party activism and she’s a part of the state level party apparatus. So her car has bumper stickers supporting dems and liberal causes. Some asshole put trump stickers on her car and then stalked and harassed her for several miles after she got in her car and drove away(she was able to peel the stickers off). He was an asshole who filmed himself doing all that and then posted it to Facebook. She’s pressing charges, he was arrested. Which is surprising honestly.I wouldn’t feel safe knocking on doors here. I’m thinking of doing something less obvious in the community service realm. My kid is grown and I’m at loose ends these days.

I’ve been promoting postcardstovoters.org
Activism from your own home

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:27:51am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s who he is.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:28:25am

Nothing like a British racist telling Americans to leave.

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Old Liberal  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:34:44am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

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As Karl Rove said “We create reality “. Eventually Reality disagreed forcefully but it took years.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:35:14am

He makes it clear. It’s not criticism of the country that bothers him. It’s criticism of the country while HE’S president. I’m sick of this autocratic toddler and his asshole supporters who cheer everything he does. I caught some of what we saw in North Carolina, it sounded like a Nuremberg Rally. Trump will be remembered in history if we’re lucky the same way otehr demagogues are but by that time, enough people will have forgotten and the time will be ripe for another right wing demagogue. If we want to prevent this, that’s why we need to call out his bigotry loudly and proudly and do everything we can to ensure he leaves office a disgrace.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:35:42am

re: #222 Old Liberal

By “diamond and silk types” are you saying African American people?

Yes there are two African American women in my office who are in the D&S Posse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:36:23am

re: #250 Old Liberal

As Karl Rove said “We create reality “. Eventually Reality disagreed forcefully but it took years.

People like Breitbart and Matt Drudge came to realize that if you just float a story out there enough, it will develop legs and get picked up and treated seriously by the mainstream media.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:37:38am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People like Breitbart and Matt Drudge came to realize that if you just float a story out there enough, it will develop legs and get picked up and treated seriously by the mainstream media.

What disgusts me regarding BReitbart is how he’s been rewritten as this good natured pipe piper of conservatism. That man was a miserable motherfucker and while I did not wish him dead, the world of politics is much better without him in it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:38:30am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

What disgusts me regarding BReitbart is how he’s been rewritten as this good natured pipe piper of conservatism. That man was a miserable motherfucker and while I did not wish him dead, the world of politics is much better without him in it.

his disciples and heirs are even worse scoundrels and bottom-feeders

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DangerMan  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:38:55am

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:39:24am

re: #255 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

his disciples and heirs are even worse scoundrels and bottom-feeders

Oh absolutely. Bannon comes to mind.

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DangerMan  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:39:44am

re: #251 HappyWarrior

He makes it clear. It’s not criticism of the country that bothers him. It’s criticism of the country while HE’S president. I’m sick of this autocratic toddler and his asshole supporters who cheer everything he does. I caught some of what we saw in North Carolina, it sounded like a Nuremberg Rally. Trump will be remembered in history if we’re lucky the same way otehr demagogues are but by that time, enough people will have forgotten and the time will be ripe for another right wing demagogue. If we want to prevent this, that’s why we need to call out his bigotry loudly and proudly and do everything we can to ensure he leaves office a disgrace.

He’s Tiberius

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:39:59am

re: #257 HappyWarrior

Oh absolutely. Bannon comes to mind.

And that fucker made it into the White House

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:40:05am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:40:24am

re: #258 DangerMan

He’s Tiberius

I’m not familair with Roman history so I’ll use some German. But a little bit of Kaiser Wilhelm II.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:40:34am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:40:58am

re: #259 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And that fucker made it into the White House

Stephen Miller. The guy who was Richard Spencer’s protege has the President’s ear. Then again both Nixon and Reagan legitimized Buchanan.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:41:39am

re: #262 Charles Johnson

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Oh please shut up already. Hitler liked giving the press access because he got that all publicity was good publicity. It’s the same with this fuckbag.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:43:20am

re: #232 Mattand

Quick addendum before I hit Wawa:

My conundrum is how do you convince white people to vote Republicans out of office? The “independents” cling to the MBF stuff and the Republicans have pretty much demonstrated they’d support Hitler at this point, as long as he cuts taxes for rich people and demonizes minorities.

How do you cut through that horseshit?

You can’t.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:44:39am

re: #239 Dave In Austin

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Old Liberal  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:45:07am

re: #252 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes there are two African American women in my office who are in the D&S Posse.

Stunning how in every group who have suffered there manages to be a sub group that succumbs to fascism. Log cabins, Jewish, Italians, African American, and my background Irish. Of course they “have the right” to believe whatever but how devoid of intellectual integrity.

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Old Liberal  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:46:43am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

What disgusts me regarding BReitbart is how he’s been rewritten as this good natured pipe piper of conservatism. That man was a miserable motherfucker and while I did not wish him dead, the world of politics is much better without him in it.

You’re nicer than me. I unapologetically wish death on many. Death doesn’t follow my wishes.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:47:43am

re: #267 Old Liberal

Stunning how in every group who have suffered there manages to be a sub group that succumbs to fascism. Log cabins, Jewish, Italians, African American, and my background Irish. Of course they “have the right” to believe whatever but how devoid of intellectual integrity.

All you gotta do to be a fascist is to believe a part of your identity makes you better than others. For D&S, they definitely feel a superiority towards people not born here.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:48:53am

re: #268 Old Liberal

You’re nicer than me. I unapologetically wish death on many. Death doesn’t follow my wishes.

It’s not being nice necessarily. It’s that I would rather see someone like Breitbart or Trump should he ever get convicted of his crime live with it. Maybe it’s the Catholicism in my background but guilt is a powerful tool but that’s assuming these guys have guilt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:49:26am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:50:17am

This fucking bullshit again.

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mmmirele  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:50:32am

Gosh, ya think? Ya think that voting for a white supremacist might torch your religious witness around the world?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:51:50am

The red hat. A brown shirt for our times.

huffpost.com
Yes, those are cops wearing MAGA hats in uniform.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:52:16am

re: #262 Charles Johnson

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BigPapa  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:52:51am

re: #252 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes there are two African American women in my office who are in the D&S Posse.

The child in me calls them Carbon and Fiber.

The child typically wins.

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Old Liberal  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:54:41am

re: #272 Charles Johnson

This fucking bullshit again.

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Well now, I personally provoked tens of thousands of Wisconsin racists to vote for drumpf, 6 years after I provoked the same racists to vote for Scott walker and his band of asshole legislators. Had I said nothing they would all be supporting Hillary today.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:55:25am

re: #272 Charles Johnson

This fucking bullshit again.

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You don’t get Trump without the GOP nominating an opponent of the CRA 1964, the GOP welcoming Strom Thurmond with open arms, Nixon’s Southern Strategy, Reagan’s young bucks eating t-bones, welfare queens, and opening up his campaign where Schwerner,. Goodman, and Chaney were murdered by the Klan talking about states rights(that was Manafort’s idea too), Willie Horton, and Rove using Evangelical oppositon to same sex marriage to get Bush reelection. And of course, birtherism and telling GOP voters repeatedly that tehy are real Americans and Democratic voters aren’t and are nothing but moochers. I appreciate the anti-Trump conservatives in some ways but in other ways, I want them to soul search and look at the men and women they have considered exemplars of conservative ideology like Buckley, Schaflry, Reagan, and others.

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retired cynic  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:56:19am

re: #121 wrenchwench

We live in The Dimming. The Dimmest of all is in the White House, with the glow of his faked-up hair.

Time to light one candle. Or more.

Light it near his hair.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:56:23am

re: #273 mmmirele

Gosh, ya think? Ya think that voting for a white supremacist might torch your religious witness around the world?

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White Evangelicals with some exceptions quite honestly are some of the most judgmental assholes I have ever met.

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Old Liberal  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:56:45am

re: #275 Joe Bacon 🌹

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She apparently likes being herded into cages to be threatened and demonized. Or hopes to be if that’s not her beat.

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BigPapa  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:57:14am

wifebeater to wife after beating her: ‘look what you made me do. Why do you make me beat you?’

This is the reasoning in blaming ‘the left’ for the right.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:59:04am

re: #282 BigPapa

wifebeater to wife after beating her: ‘look what you made me do. Why do you make me beat you?’

This is the reasoning in blaming ‘the left’ for the right.

And then the assholes say “We treated Obama with respect.” And you know what? After Trump is gone and seen by most of America as a failure, the GOP base will just lie and act like “We never supported him, he wasn’t a real conservative.” American conservatism my life has always been a sham, a sham by old white men to protect the interests of straight old white men threatened by people who aren’t straight old white men wanting something better than the lot we were born into.

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Old Liberal  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:02:20am

re: #282 BigPapa

wifebeater to wife after beating her: ‘look what you made me do. Why do you make me beat you?’

This is the reasoning in blaming ‘the left’ for the right.

I doubt that most of us have voted for a Stalin wannabe because the idiotic right pisses us off. Apparently “movement conservatives “ lack any moral center or integrity.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:03:41am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:05:27am

One more video from that channel above.

This guy, holy shit, this is off the chain. He is absolutely at one with the music and his instrument.

Pouriya Raisi - Bi Zamani

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:05:48am

Three members of a white supremacist group were sentenced to prison Friday for kicking, choking and punching multiple people during the 2017 “United the Right” rally in Charlottesville and other rallies in California.

Benjamin Daley, 26, was sentenced to 37 months in prison; 25-year-old Thomas Gillen was sentenced to 33 months; and Michael Miselis, 30, was sentenced to 27 months, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Western District of Virginia said in statement.

The three were members of the California-based militant white supremacist organization “Rise Above Movement.” The group no longer exists, according to the attorney’s office.

A fourth defendant, Cole Evan White, will be sentenced at a later date, the attorney’s office said.

“These defendants, motivated by hateful ideology, incited and committed acts of violence in Charlottesville, as well at other purported political rallies in California,” U.S. Attorney Thomas T. Cullen said.

“They were not interested in peaceful protest or lawful First Amendment expression; instead, they intended to provoke and engage in street battles with those that they perceived as their enemies.”

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Old Liberal  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:07:57am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

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From California? See, they were Demonrats

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:09:25am
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danarchy  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:10:36am

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

A reverse image search suggests the little guy is one of these…

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It doesn’t seem to have the same breast coloring, looks more like a Sage Thrasher

allaboutbirds.org

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A Mom Anon  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:14:01am

re: #272 Charles Johnson

Yes it’s all our fault because we didn’t give them an alternative to Trump. Man, I want all these superpowers they attribute to liberals running everything. Because I am a bitch, and Bitches Get Stuff Done, I’m ready. Bring Me The Powers!!! Moohahaha..

Seriously, they can fuck right off with all this nonsense.

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Chrysicat  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:14:50am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:17:09am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

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All younger than me.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:25:14am

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Would that be the same US Military that Lumpy was too chickenshit to join because he’s yet another fake tough guy on the right?

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:26:43am

re: #112 Old Liberal

I’ll tell you what triggers me about the US flag. All the “patriotic” morons who leave their dirty shredded flag up 24/7. They violate the Flag Code in every conceivable way but tell you what great americans they are.

I am patriotic and I fly five flags at all times 24x7, at my house and attached farm and disc golf courses, named the Red, White and Blue Disc Golf Courses.

The Flag Code is not law that can be enforced, it is merely a suggested etiquette for behavior regarding the flag. No law, can’t be enforced. Mostly comes from ways to keep enlisted men busy.

Not to mention that is etiquette that was considered appropriate back when my wife would be have been known as “Mrs ‘My First Name’ 7-y” which, thankfully, is a bit outdated.

And my favorite reason why I never take my flags down: Read the lyrics to the national anthem about the Star Spangled Banner. That famous flag flew all night!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:28:28am

re: #232 Mattand

Quick addendum before I hit Wawa:

My conundrum is how do you convince white people to vote Republicans out of office? The “independents” cling to the MBF stuff and the Republicans have pretty much demonstrated they’d support Hitler at this point, as long as he cuts taxes for rich people and demonizes minorities.

How do you cut through that horseshit?

One fucking benighted asshole at a time. But ya gotta be nice about it.

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Chrysicat  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:33:11am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:36:16am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:39:34am

Sometimes I think Soledad O’Brien is the only real journalist left in this blasted Trumpian hellscape.

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mmmirele  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:40:46am

re: #298 Charles Johnson

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:44:10am
The US government is honoring an 83-year-old Muslim cleric who hid 262 Christians in his home and mosque during an attack in central Nigeria.

Imam Abubakar Abdullahi, along with four religious leaders from Sudan, Iraq, Brazil and Cyprus, were awarded the 2019 the International Religious Freedom Award, which is given to advocates of religious freedom.

Abdullahi was recognized for providing shelter for hundreds of Christians fleeing attacks from Muslim herdsmen who had launched coordinated attacks on Christian farmers in 10 villages in the Barkin Ladi area of Plateau State on June 23, 2018, the award organizers said in a statement.

The cleric refused to give them up when their attackers asked about their whereabouts, International Religious Freedom Ambassador Sam Brownback said at the awards ceremony in Washington on Wednesday.

“The imam gave refuge to his Christian neighbors, sheltering 262 Christians in his mosque and his home…. then stood outside the doors confronting the Muslim attackers, pleading with them to spare the lives of the Christians inside, even offering to exchange his own life for theirs,” Brownback said.

“His actions bear witness to true courage, true selflessness, and true brotherly love,” he said.

edition.cnn.com

I’d daresay that Imam Abdullahi has displayed more courage that Trump, Hannity and Rush Limbaugh combined would even be capable of mustering.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:47:53am

Lre: #301 Dr Lizardo

edition.cnn.com

I’d daresay that Imam Abdullahi has displayed more courage that Trump, Hannity and Rush Limbaugh combined would even be capable of mustering.

And if the Imam wanted asylum here, Trump would deny it to him.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:48:32am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

L

And if the Imam wanted asylum here, Trump would deny it to him.

Sad but true.

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Chrysicat  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:52:04am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

L

And if the Imam wanted asylum here, Trump would deny it to him.

Ohhhh yeah. For Trump, he doesn’t just have “Muslim” as a strike against him, he also has “Black person”.

Because I think Islam is slightly less likely than Catholicism to post a cleric 5k miles from where they were raised just for the sake of posting a cleric 5k miles from where they were raised, so that would make him Nigerian.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:55:15am

re: #303 Dr Lizardo

Sad but true.

Look at what they do to immigrants who serve in our military.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:57:18am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

Look at what they do to immigrants who serve in our military.

I cannot help but think of parallels to German Jews who thought they were safe because they fought for Kaiser and Fatherland in WW1.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:59:38am

A Gas Station Clerk Who Told Latina Women “They Need To Go Back To Their Country” Has Been Fired (Buzzfeed, more at the link, with video from Facebook):

An Illinois gas station clerk who threatened a group of Latina customers that “ICE will come,” was fired two days after video of the altercation went viral, the store’s owner said Thursday.

In the video posted on Facebook, a clerk standing behind the payment counter is heard apparently complaining to two women about what he suspected were undocumented people.

The video exchange occurred two days after Trump sent out his Tweet at the four female Democratic congresswomen he’s been attacking.

“Let me be abundantly clear: hate has no home here in Naperville,” Mayor Steve Chirico said in a statement posted on Facebook Wednesday. “Quite frankly, this type of behavior has no place in society at large.”

Naperville Police told BuzzFeed News the department was also aware of the video and was looking into the incident. The police department has been in contact with the city attorney, Commander Mike Son said, but no charges had been filed.

The clerk in the video was identified as Joseph Phillip Daniel, a Trump supporter who describes himself on social media as a “prophet,” and has repeatedly posted videos of himself reciting prayers in the middle of natural landscapes.

When they left the store, he told them “God bless you.”

No mainline Protestant church nor the Catholic Church has yet to condemn Trump’s repeated racist remarks, nor even a more milquetoast general condemnation of such statements. None. Individuals have, but not their officials or their churches.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:02:38pm

re: #307 Anymouse 🌹

Another self-described “prophet”, eh?. Like Mark Taylor, the so-called “firefighter prophet”, whom I can only conclude is suffering from manner of undiagnosed schizoaffective disorder.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:04:22pm

re: #298 Charles Johnson

She’s married to a FOX propagandist.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:05:23pm

re: #308 Dr Lizardo

Another self-described “prophet”, eh?. Like Mark Taylor, the so-called “firefighter prophet”, whom I can only conclude is suffering from manner of undiagnosed schizoaffective disorder.

Schizoaffective disorder does not make you into a bigot.

He’s a bigot first, then uses religion to justify bigorty (and there’s a whole lot of that in the Bible).

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:05:35pm

re: #290 danarchy

It doesn’t seem to have the same breast coloring, looks more like a Sage Thrasher

allaboutbirds.org

I saw a nest of the related Curve-billed Thrashers, and the barely-fledged one had a yellow edged beak like Belafon’s birb. Probably a common feature among hatchlings, or maybe a confirmatory thing.

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retired cynic  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:08:02pm

re: #311 wrenchwench

I saw a nest of the related Curve-billed Thrashers, and the barely-fledged one had a yellow edged beak like Belafon’s birb. Probably a common feature among hatchlings, or maybe a confirmatory thing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:09:01pm

re: #307 Anymouse 🌹

Did I expect any church to call out that profiteering prophet?

Nope.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:09:58pm

re: #307 Anymouse 🌹

[…]

No mainline Protestant church nor the Catholic Church has yet to condemn Trump’s repeated racist remarks, nor even a more milquetoast general condemnation of such statements. None. Individuals have, but not their officials or their churches.

Are you saying churches are neglecting politics?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:10:14pm

re: #308 Dr Lizardo

Another self-described “prophet”, eh?. Like Mark Taylor, the so-called “firefighter prophet”, whom I can only conclude is suffering from manner of undiagnosed schizoaffective disorder.

Another fake who rides the tax exempt Gravy train!

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:10:34pm

tre: #307 Anymouse 🌹

The clerk in the video was identified as Joseph Phillip Daniel, a Trump supporter who describes himself on social media as a “prophet,”

Seems to be a lot of that going around. Angry Short Long Island Bagel Guy has described himself as a ‘prophet,’ too.

I’m thinking they’re misspelling ‘idiot’ or ‘asshole.’

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:13:07pm

re: #295 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

The Flag Code does not have the force of law, but the flag is constantly used by conservatives to show how patriotic they are (when a liberal does something with it they don’t like).

I think it’s perfectly fine to call out hypocrisy on conservatives about use of the flag (or ask questions such as “do you know what’s in the flag code”).

There’s a reason my town made the leftiest person in town the Flag Committee chairman after the last person died. I know how the village government is supposed to display the flags, can find out if they are supposed to be at half-staff, care about them if their faded or worn, &c.

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mmmirele  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:13:38pm

re: #310 Anymouse 🌹

Schizoaffective disorder does not make you into a bigot.

He’s a bigot first, then uses religion to justify bigorty (and there’s a whole lot of that in the Bible).

Mom is a paranoid schizophrenic, but one thing she isn’t is a bigot. She was the one who insisted that I should have the African-American kindergarten teacher at my elementary school. (Apparently there was an Issue with African-American teachers teaching white children back in 1965, even in the suburban Bay Area.) My sister had the same teacher two years later, for the same reason. I loved Miss O’Brien.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:17:00pm

re: #314 wrenchwench

Are you saying churches are neglecting politics?

Rev. Barber speaks out, gets indicted and convicted.

No church rises to defend him.

Lay Catholics get arrested for speaking out against the concentration camps.

Catholic Bishops continue to march lock step with the Republican Party.

Churches repeat the latest GOP talking points every Sunday.

Which is why they need to be kicked off the tax exempt Gravy Train!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:19:22pm

Wow, there’s a red flag warning stretching across half the country.

People here posting temperatures in excess of 100°F. Dayum.

At Tumbleweed Terrace it’s 72°F, with a slight chance of rain or storms today and tonight.
forecast.weather.gov

Temps will be climbing higher in the next few days, but not like that 107°F crap we had yesterday while I was out swinging a pickaxe.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:26:38pm

re: #299 Charles Johnson

Sometimes I think Soledad O’Brien is the only real journalist left in this blasted Trumpian hellscape.

She currently not a journalist like the others. She’s more in line with Maddow. She has a weekly show.

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Old Liberal  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:27:13pm

re: #295 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I am patriotic and I fly five flags at all times 24x7, at my house and attached farm and disc golf courses, named the Red, White and Blue Disc Golf Courses.

The Flag Code is not law that can be enforced, it is merely a suggested etiquette for behavior regarding the flag. No law, can’t be enforced. Mostly comes from ways to keep enlisted men busy.

Not to mention that is etiquette that was considered appropriate back when my wife would be have been known as “Mrs ‘My First Name’ 7-y” which, thankfully, is a bit outdated.

And my favorite reason why I never take my flags down: Read the lyrics to the national anthem about the Star Spangled Banner. That famous flag flew all night!

So you fly a shredded flag at night in the dark?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:28:45pm

re: #322 Old Liberal

So you fly a shredded flag at night in the dark?

No. I do fly it at night, because my gaff is lighted.

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Old Liberal  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:32:15pm

re: #323 Anymouse 🌹

No. I do fly it at night, because my gaff is lighted.

Lighted is great. If the flag code is just a suggestion which can be ignored why is kneeling during the anthem any problem at all? I know you follow the code, not directed at you. I’m tired of patriots picking and choosing what behavior is acceptable.

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sagehen  Jul 20, 2019 • 12:37:41pm

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Iran’s not stupid enough to put their nuclear facilities where they can be “wiped out”… everything’s deep underground. They learned that lesson by seeing what the Israelis did to Iraq’s nuclear facility.

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Mattand  Jul 20, 2019 • 1:07:03pm

re: #234 A Mom Anon

I feel the same. We just had a lady here in our county, who makes no secret of her Democratic Party activism and she’s a part of the state level party apparatus. So her car has bumper stickers supporting dems and liberal causes. Some asshole put trump stickers on her car and then stalked and harassed her for several miles after she got in her car and drove away(she was able to peel the stickers off). He was an asshole who filmed himself doing all that and then posted it to Facebook. She’s pressing charges, he was arrested. Which is surprising honestly.I wouldn’t feel safe knocking on doors here. I’m thinking of doing something less obvious in the community service realm. My kid is grown and I’m at loose ends these days.

Jesus, that’s fucking messed up. You know this guy’s mindset was “All cops here support Trump. They’ll have my back, I can do anything I want.”

It would not surprise me to learn that there was probably an internal debate among the police at the station to even charge this guy.


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