The Bob Cesca Podcast: The Prison Bus

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Skaug Law, PC:

The Prison Bus — NSFW! Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; Our continuing coverage of the Trump-Ukraine story and Trump’s coverup; Trump told Russians to keep attacking; Barr is asking other government to investigate U.S. intelligence agencies; Pompeo refusing to comply; Gorka and Pompeo go to Rome; Rocky Mountain Mike’s Trump Ukrainian Homesick Blues; Rudy subpoenaed; Moscow Mitch on the trial of the president; Trump has to resign; Trump wants to arrest Adam Schiff for paraphrasing; Kevin McCarthy still can’t talk; DeNiro let’s fly on CNN; With music by Luna Blu and State To State; and more!

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BeachDem  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:27:17pm

Bob Inglis, the last sane South Carolina Republican (of course, he lost his House seat to Trey Gowdy in 2010—go figure)

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:33:36pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:36:59pm
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stpaulbear  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:37:10pm

Bob Cesca does my favorite Trump imitations. He’s so wired.

Colbert reading Trump tweets is a close second.

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b.d. (It's all true)  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:39:47pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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I am 100% sure that the really crazy stuff doesn’t even make it to Twitter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:42:13pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:47:16pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:49:06pm

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:50:27pm

When Attorney General William Barr showed up at the U.S. embassy’s Palazzo Margherita on Rome’s tony Via Veneto last week, he had two primary requests. He needed a conference room to meet high level Italian security agents where he could be sure no one was listening in. And he needed an extra chair for U.S. Attorney John Durham of Connecticut who would be sitting in as his right-hand man.

Barr was in Rome on an under-the-radar mission that was only planned a few days in advance. An official with the embassy confirmed to The Daily Beast that they had to scramble to accommodate Barr’s sudden arrival. He had been in Italy before but not with such a clear motive. Barr and Durham are looking into the events that led to Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, and suddenly all roads were leading to Rome.

The Daily Beast has learned that Barr and Durham were especially interested in what the Italian secret service knew about Joseph Mifsud, the erstwhile professor from Malta who had allegedly promised then candidate Donald Trump’s campaign aide George Papadopoulos he could deliver Russian “dirt” on Hillary Clinton. The Italian Justice Ministry public records show that Mifsud had applied for police protection in Italy after disappearing from Link University where he worked and, in doing so, had given a taped deposition to explain just why people might want to harm him.

thedailybeast.com

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:53:23pm

re: #9 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why am I not surprised?

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Belafon  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:53:40pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:54:06pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:56:58pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

Polly Sigh
@dcpoll
During their presser last week Trump said he hoped Zelensky could work things out with Putin.

That was a truly chilling part of the press conference (well, actually, that was probably the only clip I saw). How anyone doesn’t understand that Trump is owned by Putin is beyond me — but most Trumpsters are brain-dead when it comes to political insights.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:57:50pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 1, 2019 • 5:59:50pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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Belafon  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:00:48pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:04:42pm

Pompeo, among others, should eventually be indicted for obstruction of justice.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:08:03pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:10:02pm

From downstairs:

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

Hmmm

re: #37 KGxvi

If we’ve learned nothing in the last decade, it’s that whatever someone is trying to blackmail you over isn’t nearly as bad as you think it is and the best response is always “ok, release it, I fucking dare you.”

Yes — usually it’s best to pull a Jeff Bezos and tell them to publish it. But sometimes the allegation is of a definitely career-ending possibly criminal action. Given Winslow’s comments, it is not going to be something as benign as a consensual relationship with an adult or even a criminal financial irregularity such as led to Chris Collins resignation.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:12:47pm

I never verified if Pompeo and Gorka landed in Italy or somewhere else. The last time I saw their track was over Halifax, several hours later they were not showing up on radar. I’ve checked every few hours today and they aren’t in the air.

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gocart mozart  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:13:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:15:28pm

re: #20 Dread Pirate

I never verified if Pompeo and Gorka landed in Italy or somewhere else. The last time I saw their track was over Halifax, several hours later they were not showing up on radar. I’ve checked every few hours today and they aren’t in the air.

Gorka tweeted video from Italy earlier today. Allegedly.

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DangerMan  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:21:58pm

re: #18 Dread Pirate

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Threatening to withhold salary
Theyre making progress

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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:24:51pm

re: #19 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes — usually it’s best to pull a Jeff Bezos and tell them to publish it. But sometimes the allegation is of a definitely career-ending possibly criminal action. Given Winslow’s comments, it is not going to be something as benign as a consensual relationship with an adult or even a criminal financial irregularity such as led to Chris Collins resignation.

That’s my take on it as well. I think Lindsey Graham has a sex scandal that is both very, very revolting and very, very illegal. Grossly underage boys is sort of the starting line for speculation here.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:27:23pm

OH HAI!

Gone two days & suddenly my Tweetdeck stopped working. I can log in to regular Twitter but if I try to bring up Tweetdeck it just dumps me in regular Twitter which sucks.

I don’t know why this happened. I’m not suspended or anything, just Tweetdeck isn’t working for me.

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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:27:50pm

re: #18 Dread Pirate

Every time I see “the honorable Devin Nunes” at the end of these letters, my gorge rises. But at least that treasonous turd is no longer chair of the Intel committee.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:28:14pm

re: #25 The Pie Overlord!

OH HAI!

Gone two days & suddenly my Tweetdeck stopped working. I can log in to regular Twitter but if I try to bring up Tweetdeck it just dumps me in regular Twitter which sucks.

I don’t know why this happened. I’m not suspended or anything, just Tweetdeck isn’t working for me.

same with me and most others, it just started a short while ago

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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:30:06pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:31:39pm

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:32:04pm

Well OK so everybody is locked out of Tweetdeck and redirected to the Utter Suck that is the Twitter Home Page.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:32:19pm

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:34:00pm

Let me get this straight: Trump is ordering everyone around him to indict Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi & everyone else involved in the impeachment investigation for some made up crimes. Is this correct?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:35:15pm

It’s not going to end well. We’ll impeach him and or defeat him at the polls but he’s willing to destroy this country to save his ass.

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Belafon  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:35:46pm
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plansbandc  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:36:12pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:36:21pm
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DangerMan  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:36:43pm

Without comment

Oh and thank goodness for Kmk

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Belafon  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:37:27pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:38:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:38:17pm

re: #30 The Pie Overlord!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:38:23pm

re: #8 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Sheesh! What do they feed ‘em? Slob hunters who bring AR-15s?

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Belafon  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:38:48pm

re: #37 DangerMan

Without comment

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Oh and thank goodness for Kmk

GTMA. That’s what I wrote in my reply to Trump. I just don’t have Kruse’s prestige or followers.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:39:05pm

re: #39 Patricia Kayden

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He’s an evil piece of shit. One of the worst people in American history.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:39:13pm

re: #34 Belafon

Quitting isn’t the answer. Come forward and reveal to the public what is going on within the State Department.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:40:38pm

re: #32 The Pie Overlord!

Par for the course.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:41:33pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:41:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:41:45pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:41:45pm

I’m never going to forgive anyone who voted for him.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:41:52pm

FEMA camps will have to be in the south, so we can surround them with alligator-filled moats. It’s only fair.

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Belafon  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:42:45pm

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

FEMA camps will have to be in the south, so we can surround them with alligator-filled moats. It’s only fair.

Hungry polar bears in the North.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:43:33pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:44:50pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

I’m never going to forgive anyone who voted for him.

This. I’m lucky enough to be in a position to remove all Trumpists from my personal life, and I have done that.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:44:55pm

From one dictator to another.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:46:35pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:46:35pm

re: #54 DodgerFan1988

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From one dictator to another.

Trump’s underlying malignancy is why the only world leaders he gets along with are the thugs and murderers. He probably respects them for doing what he has fantasized about all his life, but never dared to do himself.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:48:28pm

re: #52 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:49:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:49:47pm

re: #56 EPR-radar

Trump’s underlying malignancy is why the only world leaders he gets along with are the thugs and murderers. He probably respects them for doing what he has fantasized about all his life, but never dared to do himself.

He sees separation of powers as weakness.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:50:12pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So awesome!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:53:26pm

re: #41 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Sheesh! What do they feed ‘em? Slob hunters who bring AR-15s?

What ever they’re chowing down on, they’re getting at the buffet

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HappyWarrior  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:53:47pm

Going to bed all. I just wish it would end finally. This guy is a nightmare.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:53:50pm

The Price is Right Losing Horn - Gaming Sound Effect (HD)

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bratwurst  Oct 1, 2019 • 6:58:17pm
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DangerMan  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:01:28pm

Dumber than dumb
Willfully stupid

A new Monmouth poll finds that only 40% of Republicans believe President Trump talked to the Ukrainian president about investigating political rival Joe Biden — even though Trump has acknowledged doing so

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:01:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:02:47pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:03:05pm

re: #64 bratwurst

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Well, Bret, you ARE a White Nationalist!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:04:08pm
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DodgerFan1988  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:05:35pm

Trump giving the “Sudetenland” to Putin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:07:40pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:07:53pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

Inspector General Vacancies Continue to Jeopardize Oversight and Investigations

Lack of permanent leadership in inspector general offices across the government has been a persistent issue that puts federal oversight and investigations at risk, witnesses told members of a House subcommittee on Wednesday.

“Prolonged vacancies within [inspectors general offices] undermine the critical oversight work being done within that office,” said Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz, during a hearing of the House Oversight and Reform Subcommittee on Government Operations.

According to the watchdog Project on Government Oversight, 13 of the 74 inspector general positions lack a permanent director. Of the vacant positions, 11 require presidential nomination, but only two have a person named. Several of the vacancies date back to the Obama administration, when Republicans criticized President Obama on the issue, The Washington Post reported.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:08:26pm

Hot and dry.

Meanwhile just on the eastern side of the continental divide in Montana, there’s four feet of snow on the ground in some places.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:08:35pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:09:35pm

Something I noticed awhile ago.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:09:42pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trump hasn’t filled top watchdog jobs at Pentagon, CIA, other agencies

Nine of the government’s top watchdog jobs — the independent officials charged with handling whistleblower complaints and keeping an eye on unusual agency activity — have not been filled by President Donald Trump.

Trump is supposed to nominate candidates to fill the top inspector general job at the Pentagon, Central Intelligence Agency, Environmental Protection Agency and departments of Health and Human Services, Treasury and Education, according to a congressional committee letter to the White House.

Those positions - which also include permanent IGs at the Office of Personnel Management, the Tennessee Valley Authority, and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission — need Senate confirmation.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:09:55pm

re: #39 Patricia Kayden

In normal times, this story would lead to calls for an immediate resignation. In these times, it doesn’t even make us blink.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:11:09pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

Me neither.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:11:15pm

re: #24 EPR-radar

Maybe him and JMaC had a more than special relationship.

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MsJ  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:11:25pm

re: #63 teleskiguy

Is Collins going to prison?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:12:39pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:14:18pm

re: #29 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Lol! Call him only if you want to lose your case.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:14:38pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:15:03pm

re: #80 MsJ

Is Collins going to prison?

He pled guilty to insider trading charges today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:15:17pm
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MsJ  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:19:59pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

He pled guilty to insider trading charges today.

I saw that but I didn’t see anything about sentencing. I’m curious if he’s gonna get a white-dude criminal slap on the wrist, a white-woman actual sentence (see Martha Stewart) or a black-woman voting by mistake send her to prison for eight years kind of sentence.

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Belafon  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:20:16pm

re: #77 Ace Rothstein

In normal times, this story would lead to calls for an immediate resignation. In these times, it doesn’t even make us blink.

It makes us blink and get angry. Some of us, but not people like McConnell.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:21:00pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:21:34pm

re: #86 MsJ

Ask Bernie Madoff about that.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:21:39pm
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MsJ  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:23:33pm

re: #89 teleskiguy

Ask Bernie Madoff about that.

Bernie fucked over way too many rich people to ever get a sentence where he could have possibly seen the light of day.

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retired cynic  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:25:04pm

re: #34 Belafon

[Nahal Toosi
✔
@nahaltoosi
Since the memo detailing Trump’s call with his Ukrainian counterpart was released, dozens of Foreign Service officers have joined a private Facebook group for those considering quitting their jobs, a member of the group told POLITICO. ]

I heard an interview on NPR today, Here and Now, I think, and the person interviewed was a retired State Department career diplomat, who had two main points. First, the conversation that DT had to pressure Zelenskyy was absolutely an impeachable offense, hair on fire. The second, which also had his hair on fire, was that the former ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yanukovich (sp?), was forced out after DT jr and the RW media blitz turned on her. She was pulled before the end of her term, and then DT had the nerve to disparage her on an official phone call to Zelenskyy… The man was absolutely livid.

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MsJ  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:26:03pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:28:58pm

Sounds like Pompeo is about to go down for obstruction and abuse of office:

This just leaves Michael E Horowitz over at DOJ as the odd IG out in the current debacle. Will be interesting to see if he wakes the fuck up and starts ripping Barr a new one for illegally trying to cover up the IC whistleblower complaint and co-conspiring with Trump to manufacture evidence via graft and corruption.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:30:19pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

Mike Pompeo is an idiot’s idea of what a smart guy is.

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MsJ  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:31:13pm

Subtitled: Why having sex with children is better than with women

(Spoiler: women are too demanding, a woma saying No is only a negotiation tactic and what’s wrong with rape anyway?)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:31:59pm

WINNING

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:32:10pm

re: #96 MsJ

He kept his underwear on.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:34:12pm
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makeitstop  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:35:50pm

re: #93 MsJ

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Afraid to look. 11 minutes of train wreck.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:40:33pm
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CleverToad  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:43:04pm

Total OT. My one and only kid turned 21 today. Hell of a world he’s inheriting, but there are flashes of light in the tunnel, a few of them getting closer this week.

Hopefully I’ve raised a decent human being — he’s turning out pretty well so far. Hopefully also I’ve trained that little sucker to VOTE in every election for the rest of his born days.

I now return you to whatever’s going to break next in our regularly-scheduled twenty-four minute news cycle.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:45:59pm
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Dread Pirate  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:47:38pm
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mmmirele  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:49:38pm

re: #86 MsJ

I saw that but I didn’t see anything about sentencing. I’m curious if he’s gonna get a white-dude criminal slap on the wrist, a white-woman actual sentence (see Martha Stewart) or a black-woman voting by mistake send her to prison for eight years kind of sentence.

Federal sentences have to be prepared. The probation officer (hold on, that doesn’t mean he gets probation) has to prepare a Pre-Sentence Report (PSR). Basically, it’s a rundown of your life, all the good, all the bad, any mitigating circumstances, and the sentencing range recommended for the charges you pleaded to. The prosecution will usually ask for the top of the range, the defense, bottom or probation. Sometimes, sentences are delayed for months, or even a year. I know of a sovereign citizen who got his sentence delayed a couple of times, was sentenced, and then failed to show up for his turn-in. He is, as far as I know, still disappeared.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:53:39pm

re: #70 DodgerFan1988

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Trump giving the “Sudetenland” to Putin.

Hey, Bolton, if you are going to talk, now is the time.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:54:12pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:56:30pm

re: #96 MsJ

Subtitled: Why having sex with children is better than with women

(Spoiler: women are too demanding, a woma saying No is only a negotiation tactic and what’s wrong with rape anyway?)

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retired cynic  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:57:36pm

re: #108 Joe Bacon 🌹

You win the correct-but-still-funny-but-ghastly-ugh! tweet of the hour!

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uriel  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:57:50pm

re: #107 Ace-o-aces

I wouldn’t be surprised if Alan has a- what would you call it- a personal interest in the matter.

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plansbandc  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:58:08pm

re: #96 MsJ

Gross.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 7:58:32pm

re: #104 Dread Pirate

No, while analysts believe it was a SLBM, they do no believe it was sub launched

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:00:10pm
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MsJ  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:00:26pm

re: #111 plansbandc

Gross.

Sorry. 😢

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plansbandc  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:01:59pm

re: #114 MsJ

It’s not your post, it’s the book. Gross.

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Belafon  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:05:03pm

re: #113 jaunte

I think he changed the tweet. Yours doesn’t come up, but there is a new one.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:06:30pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

So, Twitter is having serious problems

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:07:32pm

re: #116 Belafon

I still see it there, but I see people saying Twitter is behaving oddly.

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uriel  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:08:26pm

Just because someone should bring him up to speed:

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:09:17pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:09:35pm

Iframe

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retired cynic  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:14:11pm

re: #121 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I want to hear that, what my father went through, but I’m not ready tonight….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:14:28pm

I have an easy answer for you Miss

Stop
Going
There
PERIOD

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:16:33pm

re: #122 retired cynic

I want to hear that, what my father went through, but I’m not ready tonight….

It’s not very long. He’s aboard a ship off the Normandy coast. They’re firing a lot of anti-aircraft fire

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:18:00pm

This could be the tweet juxtaposition of the day.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:18:37pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:22:13pm

re: #123 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m not a believer in the supernatural or omens or anything like that. But if that happened to me, I would be seriously thinking about curses.

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ckkatz  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:23:58pm

From last thread:

re: #144 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Did you know that the original recording of Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer was released on 1 Sep 1949?

For some reason the question came to my mind early this morning after I woke up. Strange. It was recorded (originally) on 27 Jun of that same year.

I wonder how many versions of it have been made.

So… who was the meanest reindeer?

Spoiler

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Weaselone  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:25:39pm

re: #127 teleskiguy

I’m not a believer in the supernatural or omens or anything like that. But if that happened to me, I would be seriously thinking about curses.

I would probably stop doing stuff that ticks off bison.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:27:22pm
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ckkatz  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:32:17pm

And a bit of light verse

The British Journalist
Humbert Wolfe

You cannot hope to bribe or twist
(thank God!) the British journalist.
But, seeing what the man will do
unbribed, there’s no occasion to.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:36:56pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:44:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:47:27pm

I damn near did a spit take

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:47:56pm
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jaunte  Oct 1, 2019 • 8:55:41pm
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Dread Pirate  Oct 1, 2019 • 9:04:50pm

re: #135 Ace-o-aces

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They are that stupid.

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jaunte  Oct 1, 2019 • 9:07:50pm
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Chrysicat  Oct 1, 2019 • 9:27:41pm

Hat tip to my online chat partner, the former @AzaleaCloud on Twitter, for finding this one:

Note that both she and the tweeter were Bernie Girls in 2016, who left largely because the ones who remained with him were becoming poisonous purity ponies.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 1, 2019 • 9:31:08pm

Bernie’s Purity Ponies are his own worst enemies. The ones in the Los Angeles DSA who are Bernie or Burn It All Down are becoming increasingly obnoxious.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2019 • 9:37:36pm

I’m climbing out on a big branch that hangs over a substantial chasm. I don’t care. The Breaking Bad Universe is pretty amazing. Vince Gilligan and his writers have created a monster.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2019 • 9:44:41pm

re: #141 teleskiguy

Or it could be ‘The Irishman.’

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Dread Pirate  Oct 1, 2019 • 9:45:27pm
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sagehen  Oct 1, 2019 • 9:49:36pm

Can I just say how happy I am that Bill Barr and Mike Pompeo find their agencies staffed by people with the integrity, and historical knowledge, to understand that “I vas just followink orders” ain’t gonna cut it. They know what’s a better choice.

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plansbandc  Oct 1, 2019 • 10:01:02pm

I wouldn’t mess with these guys.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 1, 2019 • 10:06:40pm

re: #144 sagehen

Can I just say how happy I am that Bill Barr and Mike Pompeo find their agencies staffed by people with the integrity, and historical knowledge, to understand that “I vas just followink orders” ain’t gonna cut it. They know what’s a better choice.

Let’s hope that sufficient such people remain so that our nation can recover. I think these are the very people that my brother was labeling “unelected bureaucrats.” Unfortunately, Pence is likely to survive and as long as any Trump people still exist in the administration, our nation remains in peril.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2019 • 10:29:54pm

re: #144 sagehen

Can I just say how happy I am that Bill Barr and Mike Pompeo find their agencies staffed by people with the integrity, and historical knowledge, to understand that “I vas just followink orders” ain’t gonna cut it. They know what’s a better choice.

I’m sorry but Barr’s DOJ hasn’t shown any integrity at all that I’m yet aware of. Mueller let Barr walk all over him. The DOJ IG Michael Horowitz has been busy going after McCabe and Stzrok while so far seemingly ignoring Barr’s flagrantly corrupt overruling of the Intelligence Community IG Atkinson’s ruling in the whistleblower case. Moreover the SDNY today announced that they’ll be filling an argument on Trump’s behalf objecting to him having to release his tax returns.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2019 • 10:32:14pm

Was able to get TweetDeck working again.

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TedStriker  Oct 1, 2019 • 10:37:04pm

re: #145 plansbandc

I wouldn’t mess with these guys.

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Kid’s already got swagger and his homies are backing him up.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2019 • 10:37:44pm

Don’t forget that it was a career DOJ lawyer who argued that the government didn’t have to provide detained migrant children who’d been ripped away from their parents with soap or toothbrushes.

No less than DHS, the DOJ is full of goddamned monsters.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 1, 2019 • 11:00:13pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 1, 2019 • 11:01:02pm

Walmart: Signpost of the Idiocracy.

Total FAIL at Walmart pickup. I placed a 50 dollar order today, with pickup between 7 and 8pm. I got two emails claiming that they had received the order and were getting it ready. I arrived at the store at 7, and waited for half an hour for the email telling me the order was ready. It never came. Instead, a distraught, harried young woman was making her way through the pickup parking area and finally reached me. She checked my order number, then told me that their in-store system had no record of that order, it had not in fact been picked, and that all the orders they did have had already gone out. She also indicated that this had happened a number of times today and she had personally had a very rough time explaining to irate customers that the orders they had driven into and across town to pick up were not ready and in fact did not exist. I was ready to explode but I felt very sorry for the girl and was as polite and conciliatory as possible. They could not help with a refund and in-store customer service, as usual, had masses of zombies and yokels camped out in front of their counter and I would have been there till 3AM waiting Soviet style for my turn at the counter.
I called the national customer service department (the nation being India), which naturally does not have a live person available. They eventually did call back and agreed to the refund. It will take 24 to 48 19th century-style Texas banking hours to get my refund, during which the 50 bucks is not available to, say, buy groceries somewhere else. That is okay for me but what if that had been the only 50 dollars I had for groceries, which is the case with many of this zombie-infested Idiocrat hell-merchant’s customers? They did give me a 20 dollar coupon for my next Walmart Grocery order, which WILL NOT HAPPEN BEFORE THE HEAT DEATH OF THE UNIVERSE!

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 1, 2019 • 11:16:40pm

re: #70 DodgerFan1988

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Trump giving the “Sudetenland” to Putin.

Basically. And now, Putin will try it elsewhere - anywhere there’s a significant ethnic Russian population that was left stranded at the end of the Cold War.

Putin now knows he can get away with it and the US won’t lift a finger. I’m also sure that President Xi Jinping has taken note of this as well. Arguably, he now has a window of opportunity to put the screws to Taiwan because it’s abundantly clear that Trump won’t do shit about it…..sure, he’ll bluster a bit on Twitter, but that’s all.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 1, 2019 • 11:19:23pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 1, 2019 • 11:29:44pm
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 1, 2019 • 11:35:11pm

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

- when Trump became president I figured Oliver Stone would direct the eventual biopic
- during the Stormy Daniels fiasco I thought Paul Verhoeven might be the right choice
- then Brett Kavanaugh happened and I thought Ava DuVernay
- now I’m like fuck it, give it to Rob Zombie

At this point, Captain Spaulding* would be a better POTUS.

*RIP, Sid Haig.

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uriel  Oct 1, 2019 • 11:35:19pm

re: #153 Dr Lizardo

Basically. And now, Putin will try it elsewhere - anywhere there’s a significant ethnic Russian population that was left stranded at the end of the Cold War.

Putin now knows he can get away with it and the US won’t lift a finger. I’m also sure that President Xi Jinping has taken note of this as well. Arguably, he now has a window of opportunity to put the screws to Taiwan because it’s abundantly clear that Trump won’t do shit about it…..sure, he’ll bluster a bit on Twitter, but that’s really about it.

Can’t disagree. He does love him some heartless dictators.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 1, 2019 • 11:52:19pm

Woman taunts lion after climbing into exhibit at Bronx Zoo

Video posted to Instagram over the weekend shows a woman facing off with a lion at the Bronx Zoo, taunting the animal.

Police are now trying to find her.

The video showed the woman wave at the lion. Then as the lion stood still, glaring at her, she danced seemingly carefree just feet away across a small moat.

The video was taken by another visitor to the zoo on Saturday. By Tuesday, onlookers at the exhibit had heard about the dangerous ordeal.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 2, 2019 • 12:33:32am

If we look at this map of Ukraine, notice all those gas fields in the Donetsk Basin region:

If Putin could ostensibly annex that part of Ukraine to Russia proper, he’s going to be sitting pretty (along with his cronies) for a long time to come.

And I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he promised Trump a kickback on that potential revenue if Trump could pressure the Ukrainian leadership to more or less hand it over.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 2, 2019 • 12:50:51am
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Dread Pirate  Oct 2, 2019 • 1:14:00am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 2, 2019 • 1:32:48am

re: #161 Dread Pirate

RWNJ’s sure do have a vivid imagination, I’ll say that.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 2, 2019 • 1:57:25am

re: #122 retired cynic

I want to hear that, what my father went through, but I’m not ready tonight….

That’s why I can’t watch “The Pacific” too close to home.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 2, 2019 • 2:06:07am

Back later. Off to work.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 2, 2019 • 2:41:41am

Wannabe dictators:

PM ‘to suspend parliament again next week’ as EU shoots down his Brexit plan before it is announced

Boris Johnson’s plan for a Brexit deal will be delivered to Brussels on Wednesday with a message that there will be no delay beyond the 31 October deadline.

As EU officials criticise Mr Johnson’s proposed customs checks in Ireland, the PM will use his Tory conference speech today to say “we must” get Brexit done because voters feel they’re being “taken for fools”.

It comes as reports emerged of a government plan to prorogue parliament again next week, while Donald Trump is said to have contacted Mr Johnson to “ask for help” with the Mueller probe.

[…]

According to a report in The Times, the US president contacted Boris Johnson to “ask for help” on 26 July (only a couple of days after Johnson entered No 10), as he looked for ways to discredit the Mueller probe.

Trump’s attorney general William Barr reportedly brought up the Mueller investigation in his meeting with British intelligence officials a few days later. No 10 officials have refused to comment.

[…]

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2019 • 2:47:37am

re: #161 Dread Pirate

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This Jeffress is even more unhinged than Falwell and Graham.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 2, 2019 • 2:48:03am

Johnson is turning the Tories into mini-Trump rallies.
Thuggery:

‘No surrender!’ DUP activists cheer Boris Johnson to rafters at Tory conference after vowing he will NOT back down in Brexit standoff

[…]

The PM launched repeated attacks on Jeremy Corbyn as he said he wanted to put the Labour leader in a ‘figurative rocket’ at the next general election and ‘send him into orbit where he belongs’.

When Mr Johnson talked about what should happen to Mr Corbyn one audience member shouted ‘traitor’s gate’ while another appeared to yell ‘a noose’.

[…]

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 2, 2019 • 2:52:10am

As pundits have already noted, Johnson managed to come up with a solution that nobody wanted:

‘Two borders for four years’: what is Boris Johnson’s Brexit offer?

The proposal is similar to Theresa May’s deal but with the Irish border backstop ripped up and replaced by his own plan, labelled “two borders for four years”.

[…]

Northern Ireland would also leave the customs union on 20 December 2020. But it would remain aligned on regulations and, it is assumed, freedom of movement of people within the island of Ireland for another four years, until 2025.

But would that not mean a border down the Irish Sea?
Yes. Goods coming into Northern Ireland would have to be checked to see if they complied with EU standards, which would apply across the island.

[…]

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Danack  Oct 2, 2019 • 2:56:18am

re: #165 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Wannabe dictators:
PM ‘to suspend parliament again next week’ as EU shoots down his Brexit plan before it is announced

That’s going to cause a shitshow. It’s clear he’s only suspending parliament to avoid having to comply with the law that was passed.

I strongly suspect that either parliament or the Queen is going to defy his call to suspend parliament.

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Danack  Oct 2, 2019 • 2:58:39am

re: #167 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Johnson is turning the Tories into mini-Trump rallies.

‘No surrender!’ DUP activists cheer “

More accurately, he’s turning the Tories into terrorists who want to force their view onto others, just like the original founding of the DUP:

Ulster Protestant Action (UPA) was an Ulster loyalist and Protestant fundamentalist vigilante group in Northern Ireland that was founded in 1956 and reformed as the Protestant Unionist Party in 1966.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 2, 2019 • 2:59:20am

Border community outraged at arrival of customs cars

A border community have been left outraged after number of customs cars were delivered to the area, hours after it emerged that British negotiators had suggested customs posts either side of the Irish border.

A lorry with a car carrier trailer holding seven customs cars with hi-visibility livery travelled through Co Louth yesterday morning, and parked at a yard in Coes Road East, Dundalk, just miles from the border.

[…]

Sinn Féin MEP for the area Matt Carthy said the approach would not be tolerated elsewhere and will not be tolerated by border communities.

[…]

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Weaselone  Oct 2, 2019 • 3:09:43am

re: #162 Dr Lizardo

RWNJ’s sure do have a vivid imagination, I’ll say that.

It’s projection, not imagination.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 2, 2019 • 3:19:51am

If you’ve got $72M laying around, have I got a deal for you:

The Largest Land Sale in California

You get almost as much a sense of the ecological value of the N3 Ranch property, 50,000 East Bay acres listed for sale for $72 million in early July, from looking at a map as you do from the spectacular drone footage the owners released with the listing.

[…]

The ranch has been owned by the same family since Sharsmith surveyed it, and has been both a working cattle ranch and private hunting ground, with 14 hunting cabins for hunters to pursue tule elk and black-tailed deer.

[…]

Before the Vickers-Naftzger family arrived, N3 fell on the eastern edge of Chochenyo-speaking Ohlone territory. When the Mexican government secularized the California missions in the 1830s, hundreds or perhaps thousands of Ohlone returned to the greater Livermore and Pleasanton area, and established a large community in Pleasanton as well as smaller communities around Arroyo del Mocho — parts of which are now on the N3 property — and in parts of what are now the East Bay Regional Park District and SFPUC watershed land. A partial Census in 1900 shows 20 Ohlone living in Murray Township, the site in Alameda County of the future N3 ranch.

Between 1851-1852 the remaining Bay Area Ohlone signed treaties with government representatives that granted them access to 8.5 million acres of land in central California to cede 64 million acres to the United States. But the Senate never ratified any of the treaties — and in the late 1920s, just before the Naftzger family turned to Northern California in search of new ranchland, the Bay Area Ohlone, until then recognized as a sovereign tribe called the Verona Band of Alameda County by the U.S. government, were stripped of their tribal status. Without formal organizational power, the communities in Pleasanton and Livermore drifted apart as individual families sought work elsewhere in the Bay Area. Many joined the Army to fight in World War I and II. The 500 enrolled members of the Muwekma Ohlone today have no tribal land and as of 2019 have had their petition to regain federal recognition rejected by the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

“On this ranch, there are probably a multitude of ancestral heritage sites that of course the tribe will never have access to,” says San Jose State emeritus anthropology lecturer Alan Leventhal, who has worked with the Muwekma Ohlone for nearly 40 years. “That’s the politics of erasure which the tribe has faced since 1927. If you don’t mention their contributions or their history or their heritage, they’re not considered stakeholders.”

[…]

Here’s the sales video, complete with hokey country voice over:

N3 Cattle Company | Livermore, CA

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steve_davis  Oct 2, 2019 • 3:39:48am

re: #15 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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I do not understand what you imagine Trump is going to do to stop the outcome of an election. He isn’t going to declare a national emergency because congress would prevent it (even Republicans would not stomach that). He isn’t going to hole up in the white house because as soon as the new president takes the oath of office, the military will be under someone else’s control, and the secret service will be helping him back his bags. He can be a sore loser, but he isn’t going to pull off a soft coup.

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steve_davis  Oct 2, 2019 • 3:43:41am

re: #24 EPR-radar

That’s my take on it as well. I think Lindsey Graham has a sex scandal that is both very, very revolting and very, very illegal. Grossly underage boys is sort of the starting line for speculation here.

nah. i live down the road from the man. there is not even a breath of that sort of scandal, and believe me, there would be if there were any truth to that. There are probably 100,000 people between Oconee and Pickens counties. You can’t hide that here.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 2, 2019 • 3:50:26am

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 3:56:59am

re: #165 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Wannabe dictators:

PM ‘to suspend parliament again next week’ as EU shoots down his Brexit plan before it is announced

I’m genuinely curious how he intends to do that, as proroguing Parliament requires the participation of HRH and the Crown was just found the other day to be looking into a way to sack his silly ass. There’s no mystery as to his reasons for such, and with the passage of the Benn bill any approval of such prorogument beyond the mandated deadline would effectively make Liz complicit in Boris’ attempt to break the law. The only way it makes any logical sense is if he is trying to force her to can his ass so as to force an election.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:03:35am

re: #177 Targetpractice

There was an article the other day that discussed how a new PM could be chosen without having to have an election.

Now as undemocratic as that may be, frankly the UK government is now fubar anyway.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:11:36am

re: #54 DodgerFan1988

Congratulations to President Xi and the Chinese people on the 70th Anniversary of the People’s Republic of China!

Did nobody bother to tell Trump that Twitter is forbidden in the People’s Republic of China? Only the Taiwanese can read this!

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Teukka  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:12:33am

So this passed by in my feeds…

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Dave In Austin  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:12:56am

Now….. Can we add this to the list?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:16:36am

re: #181 Dave In Austin

See my littlegreenfootballs.com .

Thing is, Trump did that after Johnson became PM, which means long after the Mueller report was finished and kicked around.

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steve_davis  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:23:08am

re: #152 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Walmart: Signpost of the Idiocracy.

Total FAIL at Walmart pickup. I placed a 50 dollar order today, with pickup between 7 and 8pm. I got two emails claiming that they had received the order and were getting it ready. I arrived at the store at 7, and waited for half an hour for the email telling me the order was ready. It never came. Instead, a distraught, harried young woman was making her way through the pickup parking area and finally reached me. She checked my order number, then told me that their in-store system had no record of that order, it had not in fact been picked, and that all the orders they did have had already gone out. She also indicated that this had happened a number of times today and she had personally had a very rough time explaining to irate customers that the orders they had driven into and across town to pick up were not ready and in fact did not exist. I was ready to explode but I felt very sorry for the girl and was as polite and conciliatory as possible. They could not help with a refund and in-store customer service, as usual, had masses of zombies and yokels camped out in front of their counter and I would have been there till 3AM waiting Soviet style for my turn at the counter.
I called the national customer service department (the nation being India), which naturally does not have a live person available. They eventually did call back and agreed to the refund. It will take 24 to 48 19th century-style Texas banking hours to get my refund, during which the 50 bucks is not available to, say, buy groceries somewhere else. That is okay for me but what if that had been the only 50 dollars I had for groceries, which is the case with many of this zombie-infested Idiocrat hell-merchant’s customers? They did give me a 20 dollar coupon for my next Walmart Grocery order, which WILL NOT HAPPEN BEFORE THE HEAT DEATH OF THE UNIVERSE!

when I first moved down to new orleans, I had 50 bucks cash to my name, and I wasn’t going to get a pay check for roughly a month. I didn’t have a credit card because my credit was shot. First thing I did was buy groceries for my apartment fridge. The next day, I realized the fridge had stopped working and everything in there was inedible. Today, I would have bagged up all my groceries and wandered down to the property manager’s office, demanding replacement. Back then, I just had to suck it up and eat lean for awhile.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:29:24am

re: #180 Teukka

So this passed by in my feeds…

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Hence the absolute desperation and flop sweat dripping off the Tories, as the deadline before those laws go into effect is less than 3 months away. And the money men who bankroll the government are scared shitless that EU investigators will waste little time ferreting out their ill-gotten loot before Brexit can occur. Hence total refusal to consider another extension or another referendum, and the spinning of either option as “surrender” to the EU. The reality is the public at large have nothing to lose from another extension, but those who are hiding billions in off-shore accounts are shitting bricks over waking up on Jan 1st, 2020 to find auditors at their doors.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:47:44am

re: #154 Dread Pirate

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In Washington, those with an ax to grind bonesaw to sharpen against #DonaldTrump used the tragedy of #JamalKhashoggi’s death as a tool to undermine the president because of his close ties with the #Saudi leadership

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Dave In Austin  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:48:14am

This I Phone IOS update has put a huge suck on my battery

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:52:07am

This looks interesting. The informant, son of a dead Deutsche Bank exec, is kind of a crackpot, but the author claims he brought with him thousands “hundreds” of documents and emails concerning the bank’s slimy business practices and Trump’s involvement.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:52:11am

Seeing yet another story about how Congressional Repubs are despairing because we’re now into week two of this scandal and there still does not exist a unified effort between them and the WH to tackle the impeachment inquiry. And one operative seems to still be stuck on the “This is payback by the Dems for 2016!” argument that is gaining absolutely no ground outside the wingnut ranks who are always years behind the rest of the country.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:52:46am

re: #184 Targetpractice

Boris’ money man stated today that he’s thinking of introducing changes to the law that reduces or eliminates inheritance tax, as a sort of make-good for the Tory backers I guess.

Chancellor reveals he is considering scrapping inheritance tax in huge handout to wealthiest Britons

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:53:59am

re: #188 Targetpractice

Seeing yet another story about how Congressional Repubs are despairing because we’re now into week two of this scandal and there still does not exist a unified effort between them and the WH to tackle the impeachment inquiry. And one operative seems to still be stuck on the “This is payback by the Dems for 2016!” argument that is gaining absolutely no ground outside the wingnut ranks who are always years behind the rest of the country.

I don’t see it ending well for them.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:54:09am

re: #161 Dread Pirate

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So their god is stronger than your wimpy ass god?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:58:53am

Oops.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 4:58:58am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

I don’t see it ending well for them.

Neither do I, largely because in order for them to mount a successful defense, they would some measure of coherency in their message. And that’s pretty much impossible when they have a party leader who absolutely refuses to listen to anybody that tells him that his wild-eyed screaming is anything but helpful to the cause. And contrary to the intended effect, Faux is actually hurting that effort by constantly attacking any Republican who suggests anything other than attacking anything in sight, so that it’s impossible to keep Donny from constantly frothing at the mouth.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:00:38am

Pompeo—upholding the dignity and honor of West Point, Harvard Law….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:02:42am

re: #194 Barefoot Grin

Pompeo—upholding the dignity and honor of West Point, Harvard Law….

and, last but not least, the White House and the Trump Organization…

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jeffreyw  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:04:19am

Good morning!

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:05:41am

It’s really apparent how badly the loss of Roger Ailes is hurting Faux’s ability to be the defense against impeachment it was intended from the start. The total lack of message discipline, to the point where you have what is slowly looking like a civil war between the various hosts and talking heads, is preventing the network from being the message center for the Repubs at a crucial time. I think I’ve seen the rubes spending more time in recent days pissed at “Judge” Napolitano or Juan Williams than I have heard them parroting the approved party line.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:09:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:09:16am

re: #197 Targetpractice

Trump would not have been elected without Fox, the question is if he can survive this storm without their stalwart backing

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:14:32am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump would not have been elected without Fox, the question is if he can survive this storm without their stalwart backing

It’s not for lack of trying:

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MsJ  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:28:51am

re: #175 steve_davis

nah. i live down the road from the man. there is not even a breath of that sort of scandal, and believe me, there would be if there were any truth to that. There are probably 100,000 people between Oconee and Pickens counties. You can’t hide that here.

Hang on…you assume whatever it is happened locally? The man travels all over the world. I would assume he does whatever far from home.

I would bet a bunch on there being something. No idea what, but something.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:30:31am

Color me shocked!

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:30:59am

re: #200 Targetpractice

It’s not for lack of trying:

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Wonder who told tRump how to spell “COUP” in that tweet of his? You know he pronounces it like there should be chickens living in it.

(Fixed spelling and caps)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:31:41am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:34:25am

So, in news from Czech Republic, Karel Gott has passed away at the age of 80.

He was much beloved here and even though his style of music isn’t mine, there’s no denying the impact he had on Czech popular culture. And he had a damn good voice, too; he was often referred to as the “Frank Sinatra of the East”.

There’s plans for a state funeral and an official day of mourning, to be determined.

Karel Gott - Lady Karneval 1977

RIP.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:35:09am

So, SecState Pompeo has not only admitted today to having lied to the nation last week when he stated that he had no knowledge of the Trump/Zelensky call prior to last week, but has now admitted he actually sat in on the call itself.

It’s important to remind the folks at home that the entire Republican “case” against Hillary Clinton for “perjury” was claims that she “lied” to the public when she told them during a presser that there had been no classified info stored on her email server.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:41:35am

re: #201 MsJ

Hang on…you assume whatever it is happened locally? The man travels all over the world. I would assume he does whatever far from home.

I would bet a bunch on there being something. No idea what, but something.

“His neighbors all said he seemed nice.”

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sagehen  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:48:07am

re: #173 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

If you’ve got $72M laying around, have I got a deal for you:

The Largest Land Sale in California

Here’s the sales video, complete with hokey country voice over:

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Doesn’t the State have a substantial surplus to play with? This seems like something the legislature should think about spending some of that money on.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:49:34am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2019 • 5:53:30am

re: #202 Barefoot Grin

Color me shocked!

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This Daily Beast reporting covers similar ground on Guiliani and Trump’s long connections to Ukraine/Russian criminals:

thedailybeast.com

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:02:59am
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jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:05:06am
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b.d. (It's all true)  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:05:59am

Good morning Lizards:

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b.d. (It's all true)  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:06:38am

re: #212 jaunte

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Even Putin knows the jig is up.

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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:08:09am

re: #212 jaunte

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I hope with all my heart that when a Dem president takes over, they’ll give special priority to ruining this son of a bitch in every way they can think of.

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:12:55am

re: #63 teleskiguy

There was a question about the House ability to use inherent contempt powers to jail those held in contempt and that where would adequate space be provided to hold those persons in jail?

Collins’ office is as good a place as any. It’d be useful space, given that the GOP delayed holding off on Collins taking the plea deal just long enough to prevent an election from being held in due course. The GOP denies the constituents of Collins’ district representation due to their timing tricks. This is how the GOP operates.

That Pompeo and others are lawyering up now shows that they’re dumber than a bag of hammers. For one thing, they should have lawyered up long ago because all of this was going to hit the fan. They’re doing so now because they’re at the bulkshit fan interface.

For another, they signed on to Trumpworld, and that’s a death sentence to character, judgment, and competency (what little one professes to have). Everyone in Trumpworld is a sycophant and a hack.

That Trump is complaining about his advisers putting him in this position speaks volumes to Trump’s own stupidity and picking all the best people - these are the best he comes up with because he only listens to those telling him what he wants to hear.

Now we learn that Bolton disagreed with the intentions of the Zelinksy call - well, that means he knew what was going to be discussed ahead of the meeting. That means Congress has to haul his ass to testify under oath.

And follow that up with Pompeo and Barr. Both those fuckers are in this conspiracy and must be held to account. Resignation isn’t going to save them.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:16:03am

It’ll never happen—

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:18:46am

re: #178 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There was an article the other day that discussed how a new PM could be chosen without having to have an election.

Now as undemocratic as that may be, frankly the UK government is now fubar anyway.

The current occupant wasn’t chosen very democratically anyway.

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:24:57am

re: #217 Barefoot Grin

For the same reason that the ability to auto-block/suspend goddamned Nazi and white supremacist accounts isn’t viable - it would block endless numbers of GOPers who are in office, including Trump.

They don’t have a problem with a shit slinging extremist like Trump because he generates eyeballs, which is the only thing Twitter ever cares about. The more outrage, the more eyeballs. It’s their very business model.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:25:27am

re: #212 jaunte

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Trump loses: SEE LIBTARDS?! PUTIN WAS ON YOUR SIDE ALL ALONG. HILLARY BELONGS IN PRISON!

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:26:17am
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:28:09am

re: #194 Barefoot Grin

Pompeo—upholding the dignity and honor of West Point, Harvard Law….

Pompeo claims to be a Christian as well. I guess he never came across the Commandment against bearing false witness.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:28:53am

Peachy

gocomics.com

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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:28:56am

re: #221 jaunte

Was Putin on the call too?

I’m starting to think it was Trump, Putin and Zelensky, cutting a deal for Donbas.

Here’s hoping they didn’t bury that rotting corpse deep enough.

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:29:02am

re: #222 Patricia Kayden

It’s part of the NTT. New Trump Testament.

Everything Trump touches dies.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:29:31am

re: #222 Patricia Kayden

Pompeo claims to be a Christian as well. I guess he never came across the Commandment against bearing false witness.

Those were merely 10 suggestions. Nothing to be concerned about.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:30:19am
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:33:50am
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lizardofid  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:37:01am

re: #222 Patricia Kayden

Pompeo claims to be a Christian as well. I guess he never came across the Commandment against bearing false witness.

I can remember an old sayin’ from my youth, “you can go to hell for lyin’ same as you can for stealin’ “

Good morning everyone!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:42:26am

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

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Who else is glad that Trump didn’t say he would stock the moat with pirhanas?

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lizardofid  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:42:42am

re: #225 lawhawk

It’s part of the NTT. New Trump Testament.

Everything Trump touches dies.

It’s all good cause he’s been washed it the light of the orb!

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cat-tikvah  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:47:59am

re: #198 Targetpractice

The Hoarse Whisperer@HoarseWisperer
Corrupt Trump cabinet member admits he was present for impeachable conduct; stayed silent; and then lied to the public.#ImpeachPompeoToo

Warren Zevon - I Was In the House When the House Burned Down

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:48:07am

re: #161 Dread Pirate

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:48:59am

re: #227 Belafon

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2 weeks ago, the idea of moving on impeachment without the polls all being in majority support was viewed as political suicide and Pelosi was right not to make that move.

2 weeks hence, we’re all marveling at how quickly the polls moved in favor now that she pulled the trigger.

Things that make you go “Hmmm.”

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b.d. (It's all true)  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:49:47am

re: #233 Joe Bacon 🌹

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“worship” is an awfully strong word…..admire greatly is more apt…

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:50:45am

re: #234 Targetpractice

2 weeks ago, the idea of moving on impeachment without the polls all being in majority support was viewed as political suicide and Pelosi was right not to make that move.

2 weeks hence, we’re all marveling at how quickly the polls moved in favor now that she pulled the trigger.

Things that make you go “Hmmm.”

Yeah, it’s wild that she waited until the revelation came out that Trump did the one thing that people would go “Hey, that’s not right.” Almost like she knew what she was doing.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:52:12am

re: #233 Joe Bacon 🌹

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According to wingnuts and their pulpit pimp buddies, I worship a whole pantheon of idols and demons. However do I find time to destroy the “greatness” of America when I’m constantly in worship?

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MsJ  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:52:50am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:54:08am
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DangerMan  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:54:11am
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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:54:38am

re: #234 Targetpractice

The polls and the dam bursting with the whistleblower all moved concurrently. Was there a leading or trailing effect here?

That’ll be for the historians to figure out, but Democrats been stiffen their resolve and spines and see this through. Use all the powers at their disposal to make sure that justice is done and that Trumpworld is held to account from the top down.

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lizardofid  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:55:13am

re: #233 Joe Bacon 🌹

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A piece by one of my favorite voices in our area, after Jeffress made his civil war analogy on Fox.

dallasnews.com

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sagehen  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:55:18am

re: #234 Targetpractice

2 weeks ago, the idea of moving on impeachment without the polls all being in majority support was viewed as political suicide and Pelosi was right not to make that move.

2 weeks hence, we’re all marveling at how quickly the polls moved in favor now that she pulled the trigger.

Things that make you go “Hmmm.”

She waited until there was solid evidence of

a) something that could be explained in 25 words or less; and
b) everybody agrees it’s a crime

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b.d. (It's all true)  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:57:21am

re: #239 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:59:19am

re: #244 b.d. (Impeach them all)

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LOL

Edit: That is worthy of a tweet to the outside world.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 6:59:35am

re: #205 Dr Lizardo

So, in news from Czech Republic, Karel Gott has passed away at the age of 80.

Germans knew him and loved him as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:01:28am

re: #229 lizardofid

I can remember an old sayin’ from my youth, “you can go to hell for lyin’ same as you can for stealin’ “

Good morning everyone!

“Bearing false witness” is not exactly lying in the general sense, it refers a particular form of lying that harms others

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MsJ  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:02:02am

The bots are failing trump. He’s losing YouGov.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:02:48am

About that NY Subway ad for Rudy:

The ad’s phone number leads to a belligerent voicemail, where a male voice blares, “You have called the law offices of crazy Rudy! We specialize in back channel deals, cable news appearances and will work when drunk!”

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:04:26am

re: #243 sagehen

She waited until there was solid evidence of

a) something that could be explained in 25 words or less; and
b) everybody agrees it’s a crime

But what does that really say about all the efforts and investigations until now? Nothing good, given that we’re all seemingly relieved that something this obvious came along to break up the log jam on impeachment.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:05:40am

Here is an article explaining the conspiracy theories Barr is chasing around the world trying to prove about the origins of the Russia investigation. vox.com

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:06:49am

Christian Taliban continue supporting Trump, even after he reportedly suggested shooting migrants in the leg to thwart their entry to the US.

What would Marco Rubio have to say about this? What chapter and verse would he come up with?

Yeah, the Christian Taliban that supports Trump does so because they think he’ll bring about their End Times prophesies, and that they’ll be the ones saved. They don’t care about anything else, and will stand by Trump no matter what. They’re a goddamned cult, requiring deprogramming.

And you can be sure that there’s a correlation between their stockpiling guns with their unconditional support for Trump too.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:11:10am

re: #252 lawhawk

Christian Taliban continue supporting Trump, even after he reportedly suggested shooting migrants in the leg to thwart their entry to the US.

What would Marco Rubio have to say about this? What chapter and verse would he come up with?

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Yeah, the Christian Taliban that supports Trump does so because they think he’ll bring about their End Times prophesies, and that they’ll be the ones saved. They don’t care about anything else, and will stand by Trump no matter what. They’re a goddamned cult, requiring deprogramming.

And you can be sure that there’s a correlation between their stockpiling guns with their unconditional support for Trump too.

The guns are for the same thing the second amendment was ratified for: to fight the race war. Many whites have been obsessed with the threat of slave revolts and now an invasion of the heartland by the urban horde “when the food stamps stop” for centuries.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:11:12am

re: #216 lawhawk

Collins’ office is as good a place as any. It’d be useful space, given that the GOP delayed holding off on Collins taking the plea deal just long enough to prevent an election from being held in due course. The GOP denies the constituents of Collins’ district representation due to their timing tricks. This is how the GOP operates.

You’re the lawyer and I’m not, but it seems to me the decision about whether or not the people of NY-27 get represented sits squarely with Andrew Cuomo. It’s up to him whether and when to call a special election, and his history in that respect is shitty in a bipartisan way.

Over here, next door to NY-27 in NY-25, our beloved Louise Slaughter died in March 2018, if memory serves. Cuomo could have called a special election at any point. He waited until the general election last November, where we got to vote twice, once in the special election that would immediately fill the remaining two months of Louise’s term and again in the general to fill the seat starting in January 2019.

We were left without a voice in the House here for most of 2018 as a result. That was on Cuomo, not on the timing of Louise’s death or anything else.

(And we ended up with the most milquetoast D imaginable, Joe Morelle, a man who has to consult the polling in the morning just to decide whether to put on boxers or briefs. And he’s probably in that seat for life now.)

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:11:19am

re: #15 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:12:09am

re: #250 Targetpractice

But what does that really say about all the efforts and investigations until now? Nothing good, given that we’re all seemingly relieved that something this obvious came along to break up the log jam on impeachment.

Far too many Americans viewed a lot of Trump’s schenagans like the way you overlook your shady uncle (I had one of those uncles): He made a little money under the table that you didn’t agree with, but they didn’t harm anyone as far as you were concerned. But then you heard about him being arrested in the news and went “I kind of knew he would go too far.”

Something that has happened in the age of Trump is that a lot of people aren’t holding the office to a higher standard, because he was chosen to be the racist uncle who says the things they can’t out loud (yeah, my uncle was that person, too, and because he said those things, he and my mom got into fights at Thanksgiving and Christmas - my mom, for all of issues with racism, was still the least racist person on her side of the family).

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:12:47am

re: #244 b.d. (Impeach them all)

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b.d. (It's all true)  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:13:59am

re: #257 Eventual Carrion

I want a few of those sweet Javelin’s before I give up what I know.

Those do make the morning commute go better

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:14:31am

re: #243 sagehen

She waited until there was solid evidence of

a) something that could be explained in 25 words or less; and
b) everybody agrees it’s a crime

I defended Nancy repeatedly when even Sarah Kendzior had abandoned her.

Used to have a real crush on Sarah K until that point.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:14:41am

re: #255 Scottish Dragon

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:14:45am

re: #256 Belafon

Far too many Americans viewed a lot of Trump’s schenagans like the way you overlook your shady uncle (I had one of those uncles): He made a little money under the table that you didn’t agree with, but they didn’t harm anyone as far as you were concerned. But then you heard about him being arrested in the news and went “I kind of knew he would go too far.”

Something that has happened in the age of Trump is that a lot of people aren’t holding the office to a higher standard, because he was chosen to be the racist uncle who says the things they can’t out loud (yeah, my uncle was that person, too), and because he said those things, he and my mom got into fights at Thanksgiving and Christmas (my mom, for all of issues with racism, was still the least racist person on her side of the family).

The thing is, while we’ve all had that uncle or somebody like them in the family, it shouldn’t take for them getting arrested for everybody at the table to agree that something should have been done. The total lack of bravery on the part of our politicians, the willingness to do the right then even when it’s not popular, is totally lacking and that says nothing good about our Republic’s future. There is going to be somebody slicker and more disciplined who comes along after Trump is gone, and he’s going to totally wreck our shit because too many in our government are okay with that so long as they still have a job after November.

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:15:33am

re: #254 i(m)p(each)sos

Cuomo does call the election, but it depends on the triggering event and when the next scheduled elections were to be held.

By delaying, Collins and the GOP are depriving constituents of their rights until a special election is called. Cuomo has delayed things as well - as with Rep. Slaughter.

That’s why these things should be taken out of the hands of a governor or legislature - it should be an automatic primary election called within 45 days of the dead/resignation, and 90 days to a general. It eliminates the fuckery that can occur.

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:17:40am
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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:20:42am

This is how media will frame stories going forward. Forget reality and facts. They will try to frame this as either/or. Either impeach or get gun control.

It’s all bulkshit. And it serves only one purpose - to prop up a thoroughly corrupt and compromised Trumpworld. Nothing here is accurate. It’s not gun control or impeachment.

The House passed a gun control package months ago. The Senate GOP has refused to act - not because of impeachment, but because the GOP does the NRA bidding. Trump refuses to act because he’s cool with the NRA and wants to maximize gun sales.

This isn’t on the Democrats here. It’s on the media to do better, and to report actual facts instead of making up bulkshit correlations that aren’t actually related.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:21:56am

re: #250 Targetpractice

But what does that really say about all the efforts and investigations until now? Nothing good, given that we’re all seemingly relieved that something this obvious came along to break up the log jam on impeachment.

She waited until she was given no choice.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:22:10am

re: #261 Targetpractice

The thing is, while we’ve all had that uncle or somebody like them in the family, it shouldn’t take for them getting arrested for everybody at the table to agree that something should have been done. The total lack of bravery on the part of our politicians, the willingness to do the right then even when it’s not popular, is totally lacking and that says nothing good about our Republic’s future. There is going to be somebody slicker and more disciplined who comes along after Trump is gone, and he’s going to totally wreck our shit because too many in our government are okay with that so long as they still have a job after November.

So, you call the police on that uncle that is making money under the table. The police come around, ask your relatives a bunch of questions, and they deny that he’s doing anything wrong. Now, he not only doesn’t get arrested, but you’re the one in trouble (and I don’t necessarily mean with the law). And then he makes your life hell, and your family thinks you’re just whining about him more. And even if he gets arrested, you will still be in shit. What’s to say it wasn’t your fault that he was.

We’re talking about the crappy uncle that far too many people tolerate. We’re also talking about people for whom the idea of the OK being used as a white power symbol is just your crazy idea.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:23:20am

re: #237 Targetpractice

According to wingnuts and their pulpit pimp buddies, I worship a whole pantheon of idols and demons. However do I find time to destroy the “greatness” of America when I’m constantly in worship?

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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD AND SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:23:22am

re: #264 lawhawk

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This is how media will frame stories going forward. Forget reality and facts. They will try to frame this as either/or. Either impeach or get gun control.

It’s all bulkshit. And it serves only one purpose - to prop up a thoroughly corrupt and compromised Trumpworld. Nothing here is accurate. It’s not gun control or impeachment.

The House passed a gun control package months ago. The Senate GOP has refused to act - not because of impeachment, but because the GOP does the NRA bidding. Trump refuses to act because he’s cool with the NRA and wants to maximize gun sales.

This isn’t on the Democrats here. It’s on the media to do better, and to report actual facts instead of making up bulkshit correlations that aren’t actually related.

FFS, it hasn’t even been a whole month since the same morons were printing stories about how Donny had sold out gun control efforts to LaPierre in exchange for campaign support.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:23:32am

re: #264 lawhawk

This is how media will frame stories going forward. Forget reality and facts. They will try to frame this as either/or. Either impeach or get gun control.

It’s all bulkshit. And it serves only one purpose - to prop up a thoroughly corrupt and compromised Trumpworld. Nothing here is accurate. It’s not gun control or impeachment.

The GOP has been doing a great job of being inactive on Gun Control while actively impeding any attempts to investigate Trump’s actions.

So how come they are credited with the ability to walk and chew gum while the Dems aren’t?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:25:07am
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:26:06am

re: #259 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I defended Nancy repeatedly when even Sarah Kendzior had abandoned her.

Used to have a real crush on Sarah K until that point.

To be fair to Sarah, many of us were furious that Speaker Pelosi wasn’t moving forward with impeachment. It’s good that she was able to withstand the intense pressure she was under. I forgive us for our frustration.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:26:22am

re: #262 lawhawk

That’s why these things should be taken out of the hands of a governor or legislature - it should be an automatic primary election called within 45 days of the dead/resignation, and 90 days to a general. It eliminates the fuckery that can occur.

I would support that kind of reform. Wonder if it could get any momentum in the Albany morass?

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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:26:24am

Schiff and Pelosi scheduled a presser for this morning, right?

Can’t wait to hear what they’ve got to say today.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:29:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:29:05am

re: #271 Patricia Kayden

To be fair to Sarah, many of us were furious that Speaker Pelosi wasn’t moving forward with impeachment. It’s good that she was able to withstand the intense pressure she was under. I forgive us for our frustration.

Yes, I forgive the frustration, but not the way that Sarah was talking it out on Nancy and calling for her resignation or implying that she was putting her own career ahead of the country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:29:10am

re: #273 makeitstop

Schiff and Pelosi scheduled a presser for this morning, right?

Can’t wait to hear what they’ve got to say today.

in about 15 minutes

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:31:11am

re: #275 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, I forgive the frustration, but not the way that Sarah was talking it out on Nancy and calling for her resignation or implying that she was putting her own career ahead of the country.

Sarah is far more suspicious of government institutions that operate under these kinds of conditions. I think her study of post Soviet authoritarian Asian republics has colored her perception.

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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:32:27am

re: #275 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, I forgive the frustration, but not the way that Sarah was talking it out on Nancy and calling for her resignation or implying that she was putting her own career ahead of the country.

She went further than that, charging that Nancy was in on the con or somehow beholden to Trump/Russia.

I lost a lost of respect for her at that point.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:32:40am

re: #277 Scottish Dragon

Sarah is far more suspicious of government institutions that operate under these kinds of conditions. I think her study of post Soviet authoritarian Asian republics has colored her perception.

Okay, I guess I am willing to forgive her *sigh*…still have a crush on her.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:32:54am

re: #201 MsJ

Hang on…you assume whatever it is happened locally? The man travels all over the world. I would assume he does whatever far from home.

I would bet a bunch on there being something. No idea what, but something.

There are two other possibilities:
1. It is something old — like Hastert. (Yes — it was the money that got Hastert but his terrible crimes were years earlier).
2. That Graham’s behavior was really not terrible — the “It’s personal. It’s awful” comment certainly appears to refer to the threat. Trump is a personal coward but he certainly knows people who have no compunctions about doing terrible things to others.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:33:41am

re: #266 Belafon

So, you call the police on that uncle that is making money under the table. The police come around, ask your relatives a bunch of questions, and they deny that he’s doing anything wrong. Now, he not only doesn’t get arrested, but you’re the one in trouble (and I don’t necessarily mean with the law). And then he makes your life hell, and your family thinks you’re just whining about him more. And even if he gets arrested, you will still be in shit. What’s to say it wasn’t your fault that he was.

We’re talking about the crappy uncle that far too many people tolerate. We’re also talking about people for whom the idea of the OK being used as a white power symbol is just your crazy idea.

Well, then there’s two conclusions about our family: They all either know enough to be arrested as accomplices or they don’t have nearly as much problem with what your uncle is doing as you thought. Either way, I’d stop and consider how closely you want to be associated with people who would (every one) lie to the cops about what your uncle does. Because if I thought my uncle was up to something serious enough to warrant calling the cops, and then learned that every member of my family lied to cover for his ass and was now angry with me, then my family are not the people I thought they were and I’d want nothing to do with them. There is no way I could sit at the table ever again, knowing that every other person at it was a willing accomplice.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:33:47am

re: #274 Scottish Dragon

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:35:58am

re: #275 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, I forgive the frustration, but not the way that Sarah was talking it out on Nancy and calling for her resignation or implying that she was putting her own career ahead of the country.

I personally am still of the opinion that Pelosi reacted to the tide rather than waited in anticipation of it, that she saw in that op-ed last Monday and the subsequent declarations of support that followed behind it that continuing to oppose impeachment was hazardous to her political future.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:38:06am

he seems upset

and the Pelosi/Schiff presser hasn’t even started yet

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:38:38am
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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:38:41am
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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:39:30am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

he seems upset

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and the Pelosi/Schiff presser hasn’t even started yet

It’s gonna be another long day for him.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:40:04am

re: #283 Targetpractice

I personally am still of the opinion that Pelosi reacted to the tide rather than waited in anticipation of it, that she saw in that op-ed last Monday and the subsequent declarations of support that followed behind it that continuing to oppose impeachment was hazardous to her political future.

I agree. I think she was reacting rather than waiting with a master plan. I don’t say that as a dig at her so much as an acknowledgment that planning anything in this environment is a fools errand.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:41:00am

re: #283 Targetpractice

I personally am still of the opinion that Pelosi reacted to the tide rather than waited in anticipation of it, that she saw in that op-ed last Monday and the subsequent declarations of support that followed behind it that continuing to oppose impeachment was hazardous to her political future.

I think that she was in favor of it but knew that if it backfired, both her own career and the whole party would suffer from it. There is only one right moment to leap out of cover to tackle a sitting President and I think she chose her moment well.

I still have the image of the veteran rock and roller waiting backstage as the crowd is cheering and calling out for them to appear, the younger band members are getting antsy and looking at the stage door, but Nancy keeps her cool until she senses the moment is right…

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:41:32am

re: #289 Scottish Dragon

I agree. I think she was reacting rather than waiting with a master plan. I don’t say that as a dig at her so much as an acknowledgment that planning anything in this environment is a fools errand.

Yeah, while I believe Pelosi has political instincts and years of experience to draw upon, I don’t think she actually foresaw something like this scandal popping up and giving her the means to pursue impeachment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:42:19am

re: #291 Targetpractice

Yeah, while I believe Pelosi has political instincts and years of experience to draw upon, I don’t think she actually foresaw something like this scandal popping up and giving her the means to pursue impeachment.

Nancy knows things that most of us don’t. That is part of her job and the sum of her years of experience.

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garzooma  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:42:52am

re: #291 Targetpractice

Yeah, while I believe Pelosi has political instincts and years of experience to draw upon, I don’t think she actually foresaw something like this scandal popping up and giving her the means to pursue impeachment.

There was no way to foresee the Whistleblower coming forward.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:43:09am

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think that she was in favor of it but knew that if it backfired, both her own career and the whole party would suffer from it. There is only one right moment to leap out of cover to tackle a sitting President and I think she chose her moment well.

I still have the image of the veteran rock and roller waiting backstage as the crowd is cheering and calling out for them to appear, the younger band members are getting antsy and looking at the stage door, but Nancy keeps her cool until she senses the moment is right…

Given the two moments we’re constantly told about showing her as a brilliant Speaker (holding the line on SS privatization and the ACA vote), Pelosi has struck me more as an enforcer than a leader. She is great at pistol-whipping the caucus into line and keeping them from straying, but there’s really not a lot examples of her turning public opinion in the party’s favor.

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:43:19am

Bernie’s out for the moment due to surgery.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:44:28am

Turned over to the Faux Youtube feed to watch the upcoming presser, and unlike most other networks, they’ve left the live chat running. And it’s about as insane as you expect.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:45:06am

re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nancy knows things that most of us don’t. That is part of her job and the sum of her years of experience.

We were told that about Mueller also…and we found that was actually not true. The report had no surprises at all.

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:46:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:46:51am

re: #298 lawhawk

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I want a Moot, too!

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:46:56am

re: #294 Targetpractice

Given the two moments we’re constantly told about showing her as a brilliant Speaker (holding the line on SS privatization and the ACA vote), Pelosi has struck me more as an enforcer than a leader. She is great at pistol-whipping the caucus into line and keeping them from straying, but there’s really not a lot examples of her turning public opinion in the party’s favor.

She is very cautious. That is fine as far as it goes, but yeah, she does not use her bully pulpit to rally dems and the public. Keven Kruze on twitter has been hammering that point relentlessly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:47:01am
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Citizen K  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:47:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:47:33am

O_o

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:48:20am

re: #297 Scottish Dragon

The Mueller report had 10+ counts of obstruction and obstructed on the connections with Russia and other countries. Turns out that the whistleblower’s complaint fits with the missing pieces of the Mueller report because we now know that Trump used a classified server to hide key convos from scrutiny.

That itself shows how dangerous Trumpworld is and that Mueller was seen as such a threat that they would break the law to hide evidence from Mueller.

The report wasn’t perfect by any means, but he stayed within the confines of the mandate he had.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:48:28am

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

I want a Moot, too!

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:49:10am

re: #300 Scottish Dragon

She is very cautious. That is fine as far as it goes, but yeah, she does not use her bully pulpit to rally dems and the public. Keven Kruze on twitter has been hammering that point relentlessly.

She worked well in conjunction with Reid, his being the one who rallied the troops while she kept them in line.

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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:49:33am

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

I want a Moot, too!

Face, meet palm.

A fucking Moot. Moron!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:49:33am
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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:50:14am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What about the sharks with the frickin’ laser beams?

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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:51:01am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jeanne Zaino.

Who??

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:51:27am
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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:52:29am

re: #311 lawhawk

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Not really a good look when you’re trying to profess physical fitness to assume the presidency.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:52:39am

A wall topped with razor-sharp moot points!!!

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:54:20am

re: #295 lawhawk

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Bernie’s out for the moment due to surgery.

I wish he would drop out of the race, but I really hope the surgery turns out well. Best wishes Bernie.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:55:03am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:55:12am
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:55:39am

re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, I really respect how she has handled this. She waited until the perfect evidence came forward and now she has the numbers to impeach after the hearings are completed. Plus, the majority of Americans now support impeaching Trump. This was not true after the Mueller report dropped.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:55:48am

re: #312 Targetpractice

Not really a good look when you’re trying to profess physical fitness to assume the presidency.

This was done just to make him more appealing to the working class. ///////////////

At least it was caught before serious problems.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:55:51am

re: #298 lawhawk

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
* 6m
Now the press is trying to sell the fact that I wanted a Moot stuffed with alligators and snakes, with an electrified fence and sharp spikes on top, at our Southern Border. I may be tough on Border Security, but not that tough. The press has gone Crazy. Fake News!

We don’t know the truth here. Didn’t one of the earlier Trump books (maybe Wolff’s Fire and Fury?) allege that administration officials in the Trump WH were lying to reporters to discredit them? So maybe some of these stories are actually not true.

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:56:13am

re: #312 Targetpractice

Not really a good look when you’re trying to profess physical fitness to assume the presidency.

It’s all part of his 70,000 mile service. Rotate tires, check the oil and gaskets.

Get well Bernie - and take this as a suggestion that your health comes first and that dropping out would not be the worst thing to do here.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:56:14am

re: #298 lawhawk

A “moot”?

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:56:14am

re: #304 lawhawk

The Mueller report had 10+ counts of obstruction and obstructed on the connections with Russia and other countries. Turns out that the whistleblower’s complaint fits with the missing pieces of the Mueller report because we now know that Trump used a classified server to hide key convos from scrutiny.

That itself shows how dangerous Trumpworld is and that Mueller was seen as such a threat that they would break the law to hide evidence from Mueller.

The report wasn’t perfect by any means, but he stayed within the confines of the mandate he had.

He construed the mandate so narrowly as to doom it to failure, as has been noted by other observers. Barr won.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:56:40am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

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makeitstop  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:57:28am

He’s not denying the bit about shooting immigrants in the legs, I see.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:58:24am

re: #319 Hecuba’s daughter

One of the claims was that Administration Officials priced out Trump’s demand for an alligator filled moat. That should be fact checkable.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:58:51am

re: #321 Patricia Kayden

A “moot”?

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:58:56am

re: #320 lawhawk

It’s all part of his 70,000 mile service. Rotate tires, check the oil and gaskets.

Get well Bernie - and take this as a suggestion that your health comes first and that dropping out would not be the worst thing to do here.

Agreed, I hope he gets well soon and wish him well. But I think this might be a sign that it’s time to bow out of the race.

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:58:57am

re: #324 makeitstop

Nope. Because he knows his base would love that shit.

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:59:26am

re: #327 Targetpractice

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:59:40am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jay C  Oct 2, 2019 • 7:59:45am

re: #311 lawhawk

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Sounds like the procedure I had done earlier this year (though just one stent). It hasn’t negatively affected me, much - though admittedly, I’m not running for President - so likely Bernie will be back on the campaign trail.

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dunno why, but when I saw that piece, I immediately thought “OMG! Was it the B-17??”
I wonder if it was the same one I saw flying down the Hudson a few years back: I think there was only the one still flying on the East Coast. Losing classic warbirds like that is always sad: though more so for any crew/passengers….

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:00:35am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh no. A B17G.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:00:45am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

bummer about the bomber

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:02:02am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:02:17am

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

I want a Moot, too!

What’s the point?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:03:33am

re: #335 Barefoot Grin

What’s the point?

genetic mootation!

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:03:43am

re: #335 Barefoot Grin

What’s the point?

We won’t know until we discuss it for 36 hours in Old Entish.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:03:57am

re: #331 Jay C

re: #332 Scottish Dragon

The Daily News says it was a B-17.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:04:02am

re: #322 Scottish Dragon

He construed the mandate so narrowly as to doom it to failure, as has been noted by other observers. Barr won.

I don’t think it’s wrong to say that Bob Mueller took a job he didn’t really want and executed it competently but with little enthusiasm. Hence why he never pushed for more than what was necessary to say that he’d fulfilled the mandate imposed upon him.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:05:11am

re: #339 Targetpractice

I don’t think it’s wrong to say that Bob Mueller took a job he didn’t really want and executed it competently but with little enthusiasm. Hence why he never pushed for more than what was necessary to say that he’d fulfilled the mandate imposed upon him.

His utter unwillingness to come out and discuss his own findings was inexplicable to me.

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Jay C  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:05:56am

re: #310 makeitstop

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jeanne Zaino.

Who??

A professor of Political Science at Iona College

Obvious rating a Presidential Retweet for the obvious reasons:
1. She made a remark critical of Democrats
2. She made it on Fox News.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:06:05am

re: #339 Targetpractice

I don’t think it’s wrong to say that Bob Mueller took a job he didn’t really want and executed it competently but with little enthusiasm. Hence why he never pushed for more than what was necessary to say that he’d fulfilled the mandate imposed upon him.

He was more important in making sure that nothing in his report could be contested or found to be inaccurate/incomplete, but he really erred on the side of caution.

And then Trump/Barr jumped on it and wrestled it to the ground before it could even get out of the gate. But it is still there and will become part of the impeachment process.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:06:07am

re: #339 Targetpractice

I don’t think it’s wrong to say that Bob Mueller took a job he didn’t really want and executed it competently but with little enthusiasm. Hence why he never pushed for more than what was necessary to say that he’d fulfilled the mandate imposed upon him.

This is a fair point. He wanted to make sure that he wasn’t responsible for disrupting his vaunted institutions even though they were already rotting from the inside.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:06:23am

WINNING!!!

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Jay C  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:06:56am

re: #337 Scottish Dragon

We won’t know until we discuss it for 36 hours in Old Entish.

36 hours?
Why so hasty?

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:08:23am

re: #343 Barefoot Grin

This is a fair point. He wanted to make sure that he wasn’t responsible for disrupting his vaunted institutions even though they were already rotting from the inside.

And that right there is the problem…..he is an institutionalist and he was defending the institution rather than defending the rest of us.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:08:44am

re: #345 Jay C

36 hours?
Why so hasty?

hehehehehehehe

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:09:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:11:13am
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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:11:51am

Nancy, no offense, but giving a short statement to the press off-camera about Donny’s talking points would have been the better move. Leading off a major presser with it just does not help the image you need to be projecting that impeachment is the major issue right now.

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MsJ  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:15:37am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:17:19am

To be fair, “moot” is how you pronounce “moat” in Canadian.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:17:28am

re: #256 Belafon

Far too many Americans viewed a lot of Trump’s schenagans like the way you overlook your shady uncle (I had one of those uncles): He made a little money under the table that you didn’t agree with, but they didn’t harm anyone as far as you were concerned. But then you heard about him being arrested in the news and went “I kind of knew he would go too far.”

Something that has happened in the age of Trump is that a lot of people aren’t holding the office to a higher standard, because he was chosen to be the racist uncle who says the things they can’t out loud (yeah, my uncle was that person, too, and because he said those things, he and my mom got into fights at Thanksgiving and Christmas - my mom, for all of issues with racism, was still the least racist person on her side of the family).

Every family has its “Crazy Uncle.”

i/YAV8NxMN9J0YT6PUe3xmMwYr9BTREJAtCo0GO7sQ09qe3U3PTE2BvpN7+YJSRBtmObX/75axXTkPbVINiBZvhNXBXp5eImfAapCTfeIHh5VLFGJI6FlYg5Tu0Kd1o78wZgBDmrGzYH+c5Izk6cbrBWR1uBVed+MhgQ26qHgTmZp/S53JEAy3E4aAuQrVkwyyLyqWn3SPQ=

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:18:25am

re: #353 The Pie Overlord!

Crazy racist fascist uncle tho….

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piratedan  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:18:58am

there are a number of points I want to bring up about Pelosi’s actions…

1) she didn’t have the votes to impeach early. Do I think she wanted to launch proceedings earlier… yes, but I think she was providing cover for her more reluctant members in swing districts that came in on the wave to come on board, in short taking the heat and being a good boss…. why wait? because to fail to have whipped the votes and have the vote die in Congress would have been a huge win for the GOP who would have mistakenly stated that it could never be brought up again, but in doing so, would have made the entire process that more difficult and made their claims of this just being a vendetta have more pull with the more gullible and the media for sure would have taken this angle…

2) by waiting, she essentially let Trump impeach himself, with his own words and deeds on the record in such a fashion that it was plain and open and no one could deny the crimes (unless they were getting paid to do so). This allowed those late to the party to climb on board with ample justification. She understood that Treump would likely do something just thi stupid and hadn’t she played him every step of the way where she had the legislative upper hand?

3) Thru the chain of events, it certainly looks like there will be ample grounds and evidence to also roll up a significant number of the Trump Administration, certainly Barr, Pompeo and Guilliani and possibly Pence and others

4) and she denied them the one weapon that the media would have lunged for, playing the woman with ambition card. By being reluctant and waiting, no one can accuse her of grabbing for power just to deny the GOP, now she looks like a savior rather than a striver.

would I have liked this to be done sooner, damn straight, I wanted that lying SOB and his gang of thieves out as soon as they came in, but I understand why it came down as it came down and as a bonus, it looks like we’ll easily have Barr and Pompeo for obstruction at a minimum and likely impeached for it as well.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:20:32am

Donnie’s Dow is shitting the bed in early trading. What happened now?

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:22:50am

re: #356 Dr. Matt

Donnie’s Dow is shitting the bed in early trading. What happened now?

The manufacturing sector is in a recession.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:22:53am

re: #355 piratedan

would I have liked this to be done sooner, damn straight, I wanted that lying SOB and his gang of thieves out as soon as they came in, but I understand why it came down as it came down and as a bonus, it looks like we’ll easily have Barr and Pompeo for obstruction at a minimum and likely impeached for it as well.

Amen

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:23:04am

The graft that keeps on grifting…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:23:16am

re: #357 lawhawk

The manufacturing sector is in a recession.

The Deep State Dems are sabotaging it

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:23:40am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:26:56am

re: #295 lawhawk

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Bernie’s out for the moment due to surgery.

He’s out for good. Cardiovascular issues and his age?

Forget it.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:29:10am

re: #359 Scottish Dragon

But this is somehow okay unlike Hunter Biden getting payments from a Ukrainian business.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:31:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:34:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:35:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:35:41am
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:35:49am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:36:33am

The B-17 that crashed is the Collings Foundation’s N93012, marked as the famous Nine O Nine and frequently used for their “B-17 Experience” flights for the public.

Nine O Nine at Paine Field, Washington, 2012
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:43:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:44:24am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:44:31am

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

I want a Moot, too!

Seinfeld - Moops!

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:45:16am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Democrats can work on both: impeachment and policies that help the American public. Both Nixon and Clinton were able to do both simultaneously. That was the point of this presser: it’s the current President who cannot do both or, more specifically, refuses to do both. Of course, McConnell and the do-nothing Republican Senate wasn’t doing anything anyway.

Trump is aspiring to dictatorship — either we remove him or else our experiment in democracy has failed.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:46:42am
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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:50:06am

Doonesbury already predicted this mornings news two years ago. Hotel rooms booked, paid for and nobody even bothers to show up for the room.

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:51:34am

re: #374 Scottish Dragon

Hey…. I love colorful socks. One of my nephews got me into wearing all manner of crazy colored socks (he thought my usual assortment of browns and blues were bo-ring). Since we don’t wear ties to the office (business casual), socks are one of those places where you can add crazy amounts of color.

For instance, any number of these from Happy Socks.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:54:52am
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Belafon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:56:00am

re: #354 Scottish Dragon

Crazy racist fascist uncle tho….

What I couldn’t figure out about my uncle was why four women married him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:56:22am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:56:38am

re: #374 Scottish Dragon

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I’m no fan of Bernie but these assholes make me channel my inner Marxist.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:57:00am

re: #361 lawhawk

Remind people of this when they ask why Democrats aren’t trying to be more than the party that opposes Trump.

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Jay C  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:58:06am

re: #373 Hecuba’s daughter

The Democrats can work on both: impeachment and policies that help the American public. Both Nixon and Clinton were able to do both simultaneously. That was the point of this presser: it’s the current President who cannot do both or, more specifically, refuses to do both. Of course, McConnell and the do-nothing Republican Senate wasn’t doing anything anyway.

Trump is aspiring to dictatorship — either we remove him or else our experiment in democracy has failed.

It’s actually a good strategy (amazingly, it seems to have drawn out a blatantly, transparently false “rebuttal” from Preznit Clownass in real time - yeah, he had to be watching) - since it puts a no-doubt-unwelcome spotlight on Majority Leader McConnell, and how he has basically log-jammed the entire legislative process in Washington almost single-handedly.
Of course, ol’ Moscow Mitch would likely proffer (assuming he would even comment) that holding up Democrat-sponsored legislation is Doing God’s Work by saving the country from the evil specter of Socialism Communism Bolshevism Moloch “radical un-American” proposals, but at least he would have to present a “defense” - BS as it would be. Versus just clamming up and doing nothing (and yes, The Orange One’s sputterings about “DO-NOTHING DEMOCRATS” is, as usual, blatant projection).

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gwangung  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:58:28am

re: #380 HappyWarrior

I’m no fan of Bernie but these assholes make me channel my inner Marxist.

well, not a Bernie fan, but he’s still way more acceptable than any Republican twit (and he’s edged out Biden for me).

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:59:18am
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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:59:35am

re: #380 HappyWarrior

I’m no fan of Bernie but these assholes make me channel my inner Marxist.

Same

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2019 • 8:59:45am

re: #383 gwangung

well, not a Bernie fan, but he’s still way more acceptable than any Republican twit (and he’s edged out Biden for me).

Absolutely. With Bernie, it’s just disagreeing how to get to a goal, with the Republicans, I disagree with everything.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:00:26am

re: #385 Scottish Dragon

Same

I fucking loathe the very wealthy playing victim when politicians dare suggest they not be oligarchs.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:00:54am

Oh higher taxes. I’m so discriminated against.//

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:01:20am
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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:02:49am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:03:17am

re: #389 Scottish Dragon

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Dungeons and Iron Maiden’s, please apply with Stephen Miller.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:05:18am

re: #380 HappyWarrior

I’m no fan of Bernie but these assholes make me channel my inner Marxist.

Oh, definitely. I’m no fan either, but he’s infinitely preferable to any Republican.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:05:21am

re: #391 HappyWarrior

Dungeons and Iron Maiden’s, please apply with Stephen Miller.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:05:32am

re: #392 Dr Lizardo

Oh, definitely. I’m no fan either, but he’s infinitely preferable to any Republican.

No doubt.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:07:54am

This was Putin’s goal, to destroy the USA.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:10:51am

re: #395 jaunte

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This was Putin’s goal, to destroy the USA.

Yep and Trump was easy to manipulate into doing it. That’s what happens when you elect a man like him and every Trump voter rich and poor owns part of it.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:11:47am
Dungeons and Iron Maiden’s, please apply with Stephen Miller.

Hey now, no need to be dragging Iron Maiden into this

.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:13:38am

re: #397 Dr Lizardo

Hey now, no need to be dragging Iron Maiden into this

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.

Ha sorry, sorry.

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DangerMan  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:14:22am

so the moat thing was real

i…just…cant…possibly…even…anymore

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:14:30am

re: #391 HappyWarrior

Dungeons and Iron Maiden’s, please apply with Stephen Miller.

Bill And Ted Iron Maiden

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lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:14:57am

re: #391 HappyWarrior

iron maiden? excellent!

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:19:30am

OH NOM NOM

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Dave In Austin  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:19:43am
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plansbandc  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:21:37am

re: #399 DangerMan

He lives in TVland and Movieland.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:22:11am

re: #400 Targetpractice

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That was one of those great little throwaway lines. I loved it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:22:19am

He is about to get de-moated

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:23:11am

re: #362 Dr Lizardo

He’s out for good. Cardiovascular issues and his age?

Forget it.

Yep. When age 60, I required unexpected open heart surgery — it took 2 months to recover. It’s not likely he will be able to return to the demanding schedule of a run for the Presidency.

408
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:23:57am

fucking snowflake

410
HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:26:08am

78 year old and having heart trouble is nothing to sneeze at. My grandfather was 66 when he had a fatal aortic aneurysm. Bernie’s always gotten I think an unfair pass on his age and health that Clinton and to a smaller extent Biden did not get.

411
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:26:34am

re: #408 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Do Nothing Democrats should be focused on building up our Country, not wasting everyone’s time and energy on BULLSHIT, which is what they have been doing ever since I got overwhelmingly elected in 2016, 223-306. Get a better candidate this time, you’ll need it!

He is really riled.

412
lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:27:11am

re: #406 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is about to get de-moated

His Girl Friday - Get Out

413
HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:27:44am

re: #408 Backwoods_Sleuth

fucking snowflake

[Embedded content]

Oh shut up. You had a fluke victory due to your pal Putin and your now nemesis Comey. You’re also trailing every Dem candidate.

414
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:28:36am
415
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:29:15am

re: #413 HappyWarrior

Oh shut up. You had a fluke victory due to your pal Putin and your now nemesis Comey. You’re also trailing every Dem candidate.

and he would have won the popular vote but for all that Democrat voter fraud…millions of illegals voting

416
Dr Lizardo  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:30:02am

re: #407 Hecuba’s daughter

Yep. When age 60, I required unexpected open heart surgery — it took 2 months to recover. It’s not likely he will be able to return to the demanding schedule of a run for the Presidency.

Exactly. Bernie’s pushing 80 and running for POTUS is demanding as hell. Granted, he’s in good shape for his age, and that’ll help his recovery, but still, I think it’s time for him to stop reaching for the brass ring.

417
The Pie Overlord!  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:30:19am
418
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:33:12am

“…A Department of Justice draft regulation would put a two-month deadline for unaccompanied children to apply for asylum with US Citizenship and Immigration Services officials — a major shift in the current procedure, which does not put a timeline for children to file an application.
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Adults can apply for asylum with the agency for up to a year after crossing the border.”

419
MsJ  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:33:13am

re: #408 Backwoods_Sleuth

fucking snowflake

[Embedded content]

Wait, I thought swearing by an elected official was a bad thing.

420
DangerMan  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:34:10am

re: #415 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and he would have won the popular vote but for all that Democrat voter fraud…millions of illegals voting

he would have won the popular vote if he got more votes

421
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:34:15am

I always enjoyed filling out government forms when I was an unaccompanied minor.

422
Jay C  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:35:36am

re: #407 Hecuba’s daughter

Yep. When age 60, I required unexpected open heart surgery — it took 2 months to recover. It’s not likely he will be able to return to the demanding schedule of a run for the Presidency.

Maybe, maybe not: I’d take issue with that “heart attack” post above: when I had my stent put in in February, it was after my GP noticed an irregularity in my EKG, sent me for a scan (and a cardiologist recc) - and found a blockage in one artery. I had the procedure about a week later, and (despite my GP’s well-meaning, if overly-dire warnings that I might drop at any second) - I didn’t feel particularly better/worse either way from waiting - or, for that matter, since. SO who knows?

Personally, I think Bernie will be missed more in the Senate than on the campaign trail. Which is a bummer, since I think that if the House returns an impeachment on The Orange Anus, the Dems are going to need everyone (even “Independents”) on board to the max. And unfortunately, a Senate trial (IMO) is going to highlight the shortcomings of the current Minority leadership. I mean, I like Chuck Schumer as a Party leader and all, but I think that a Trump Trial is going to need the whip-hand of an LBJ (or even a Harry Reid) to avoid the possible of a fiasco.

423
DangerMan  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:37:25am

re: #416 Dr Lizardo

Exactly. Bernie’s pushing 80 and running for POTUS is demanding as hell. Granted, he’s in good shape for his age, and that’ll help his recovery, but still, I think it’s time for him to stop reaching for the brass ring.

imo he was never not going to be running third

this is a good opportunity to say “for health reasons, i just cant. but i can still help…”

since the field is much larger than 2016’s two, it’s easier to say i’m not quitting/losing to X, i’m just stepping out of the race of 12+

424
plansbandc  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:38:00am

re: #418 jaunte

Just to make it easier and more legalistic to steal children and “give” them to whomever they want.

425
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:38:30am

re: #424 plansbandc

“Sell”

426
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:39:40am

“Here is our fee for expedited adoption services; just sign here and take home your little Juan.”

427
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:40:37am

These people are human traffickers operating under cover of law.

428
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:41:33am

Shouty president* voice coming from tv in next room.

429
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:43:11am
430
b.d. (It's all true)  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:43:26am

Trump is whining again. How pitiful, the thinnest skinned bully I’ve ever seen.

431
Dr Lizardo  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:45:19am

re: #430 b.d. (Impeach them all)

Trump is whining again. How pitiful, the thinnest skinned bully I’ve ever seen.

Seriously. He’s a walking bundle of pathological neuroses.

432
lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:46:19am
433
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:47:09am

“What happened in 2016 is a disgrace to this country.”
—Donald Trump

Well, occasionally I agree with him.

434
MsJ  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:47:32am

Dow down bigly.

25,995.43 −577.61 (2.17%)

435
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:48:41am
436
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:48:46am
437
b.d. (It's all true)  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:49:09am

re: #434 MsJ

Dow down bigly.

25,995.43 −577.61 (2.17%)

THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS GOING ON, LIKE HOW THE FAKE NEWS ISN’T COVERING POTUS FAIRLY!!

438
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:49:48am
439
Jay C  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:50:03am

re: #431 Dr Lizardo

Seriously. He’s a walking bundle of pathological neuroses.

And he insists on making visiting dignitaries sit and listen to them. President Niinisto has to be, what? The dozenth foreign leader subjected to an idiot diatribe from Trump at an open presser? Where they usually, despite their best efforts at “diplomatic” courtesy, usually look more like hostages than guests?

440
Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:50:35am

re: #434 MsJ

Dow down bigly.

25,995.43 −577.61 (2.17%)

441
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:51:38am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

442
b.d. (It's all true)  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:51:39am

re: #439 Jay C

And he insists on making visiting dignitaries sit and listen to them. President Niinisto has to be, what? The dozenth foreign leader subjected to an idiot diatribe from Trump at an open presser? Where they usually, despite their best efforts at “diplomatic” courtesy, usually look more like hostages than guests?

If I were a dignitary I’d tell the translators to go out for some coffee.

443
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:52:48am
444
Jay C  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:53:25am

re: #442 b.d. (Impeach them all)

If I were a dignitary I’d tell the translators to go out for some coffee.

And if were the dignitary, I’d go out and get it myself…..

445
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:54:08am

good grief

446
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:54:57am
447
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:55:39am
448
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:55:41am
449
Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:57:47am

While the presser itself wasn’t all that exciting, it seems the fact that Pelosi and Schiff did it at all has sent Donny into a frothing rage. So mission accomplished.

450
The Pie Overlord!  Oct 2, 2019 • 9:59:06am
451
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:00:10am
452
Dr Lizardo  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:01:21am

This looks good. And I’d say it looks like Margot Robbie absolutely nailed it.

Birds of Prey Trailer #1 (2020) | Movieclips Trailers

453
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:01:45am

Get the hook.

454
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:01:47am
455
The Pie Overlord!  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:02:06am

LOLOLOL

456
MsJ  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:04:01am

re: #453 jaunte

No way. He did not say that.

Did he?

Man, I ask over and over…did he really say that? Seriously?

457
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:05:20am
458
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:05:28am

re: #456 MsJ

Yup. With a slap to the knee of the Finnish president.

459
The Pie Overlord!  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:06:00am

Wait for the OBAMADIDIT!!! Wait for it.

460
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:06:02am
461
DangerMan  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:07:12am

re: #435 jaunte

the ‘accused’ (as it were) doesnt get to decide what’s legitimate

462
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:08:26am

Special Messenger To Putin would like to know.

463
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:08:32am

re: #461 DangerMan

[Embedded content]

the ‘accused’ (as it were) doesnt get to decide what’s legitimate

Democratic corruption? What happened to the previous explanation of Ukraine corruption?

464
DangerMan  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:08:52am

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

did he forget there’s a ‘transcript’ of the call and the WH released it?
(so we know what was said - more or less)

465
DangerMan  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:10:23am

re: #445 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

Trump said he knew that the new book out about him and immigration and moats and such was going to be fake because it was written by people from the “Washington Post.” It was written by New York Times reporters.

we are truly at the point of ‘so what’ if the president gets facts wrong - even accidentally

it’s not like we’re learning anything new about him

466
Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:10:53am

Trump acting in the way of the rapist/serial abuser, demanding to speak with his victim before the matter can go to trial so that he can “straighten things out.”

467
Florida Panhandler  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:11:12am

re: #457 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

This is Trump’s biggliest self-own of his entire presidency. A recent sampling of Trump followers indicated that his most egregious behavior amongst Christian MAGA- types is not his rampant white supremacism, lack of any standard morality, hostile attitude towards ethics in general, his serial divorce and adultery, or outright graft. No, they are upset that he uses potty words.

For real.

For this reason, Trump seriously shot his own foot just now. Christian moms everywhere are now having to explain to their kids that “bullshit” is a potty word that her MAGA hero, the president*, shouldn’t be using.

468
DangerMan  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:11:24am

re: #449 Targetpractice

While the presser itself wasn’t all that exciting, it seems the fact that Pelosi and Schiff did it at all has sent Donny into a frothing rage. So mission accomplished.

drip drip drip
needle, needle, needle

whatever works. whatever eats at him

469
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:11:54am

Right Wing cognitive dissonance continues apace.

470
The Pie Overlord!  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:12:58am

JFC

471
Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:13:58am

re: #469 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Right Wing cognitive dissonance continues apace.

I thought CNN was fake news. Why would Erick subject his kids to fake news?

472
Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:14:06am

The man is losing whatever little grip on reality he still had in real time, but the only takeaway of the day…is he used a naughty word.

FFS

473
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:14:37am
“They should”

Leadership Weakness seminar in two words.

474
Florida Panhandler  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:14:38am

re: #470 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

[Embedded content]

Who is “they?”

Just once I would like a reporter to ask an obvious question.

475
Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:14:58am

Trump is sending the lunatic bat signal that it’s ok to kill Schiff.

476
b.d. (It's all true)  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:16:25am

re: #469 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Right Wing cognitive dissonance continues apace.

Erick hiding behind his children because he doesn’t want the world to know what kind of language the POTUS uses?

477
b.d. (It's all true)  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:17:29am

re: #475 Barefoot Grin

Trump is sending the lunatic bat signal that it’s ok to kill Schiff.

yep, won’t someone rid me of this meddlesome rep?

478
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:20:53am

Just a President tweeting cuss words from the Oval office in ALL CAPS.

But hey, evangelicals still LOVE this guy!

Remember how they old us Obama was the unstable one? Fun times.

479
MsJ  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:21:02am

re: #476 b.d. (Impeach them all)

Erick hiding behind his children because he doesn’t want the world to know what kind of language the POTUS THAT HE FULLY SUPPORTS AT EVERY TURN uses?

FIFY

480
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:21:08am

re: #477 b.d. (Impeach them all)

yep, won’t someone rid me of this meddlesome rep?

Bingo.

481
DangerMan  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:21:40am

re: #469 jaunte

erick,

you want cnn to whitewash what the president says? really?
you’re good with their changing his words? wow

482
DangerMan  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:22:32am

re: #472 Targetpractice

The man is losing whatever little grip on reality he still had in real time, but the only takeaway of the day…is he used a naughty word.

FFS

oh you know they are quietly talking 25th A in some dark corners of the WH

483
stpaulbear  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:23:56am

re: #350 Targetpractice

Nancy, no offense, but giving a short statement to the press off-camera about Donny’s talking points would have been the better move. Leading off a major presser with it just does not help the image you need to be projecting that impeachment is the major issue right now.

I really liked the way she opened the presser. She basically said, “Because you’re not paying attention, here are the things that the House has accomplished or is working on.” At multiple points in the presser, she said “This is how we’re doing the nation’s work”. She also said “This is exactly how Donny confessed to me that he was committing impeachable offences”. It was pretty obvious that she said all she came to say. She’s not exactly vivacious in her delivery, but I thought she and Adam made a good tag team.

484
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:26:18am
485
Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:27:09am

re: #482 DangerMan

oh you know they are quietly talking 25th A in some dark corners of the WH

I mean, after that deranged rant did he just walk into the lunch with the Finnish pres all calm & ate his food?

Nah.

486
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:33:02am

re: #485 Stanley Sea

I mean, after that deranged rant did he just walk into the lunch with the Finnish pres all calm & ate his food?

Nah.

pretty sure the Finnish President left the presser and headed straight to his plane

487
jaunte  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:35:09am
488
lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:35:27am

re: #478 Eclectic Cyborg

Just a President tweeting cuss words from the Oval office in ALL CAPS.

But hey, evangelicals still LOVE this guy!

Remember how they old us Obama was the unstable one? Fun times.

From now on, if any guy claims a woman - any woman - is somehow unstable or too emotional to be in the WH - block their ass and ignore them for all time. Trump disproves every claim about how women are too emotional to be in the WH.

Turns out that everything Trump claimed about Clinton was really about himself. He was projecting his own failings/wrongdoing/criminality on to his political enemies. Same as always.

489
Stanley Sea  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:35:46am

re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure the Finnish President left the presser and headed straight to his plane

He wishes. They are having a lunch then a podium presser.

wheeee.

12:45 PM

Official Schedule
The President participates in an expanded working luncheon with the President of the Republic of Finland
Cabinet Room Closed Press
2:00 PM

Official Schedule
The President participates in a joint press conference with the President of the Republic of Finland

490
lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:37:02am

re: #482 DangerMan

oh you know they are quietly talking 25th A in some dark corners of the WH

Bullshit.

Trump surrounds himself with sycophants and suck ups. They wont put the needs of the nation above all else.

Trump relies on this to remain in power. He knows it (and is counting on it). The GOP wont stop him.

491
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:40:16am

Detailed update from the Hartford Courant. It looks like it was one of their “B-17 Experience” flights, with paying passengers on board. People pay $450 and up for these, depending on the seat they get. I have always been ambivalent about this, though I did take such a flight in the Commemorative Air Force’s B-29 Fifi.
The joy rides put a genuine historical artifact into something resembling revenue-driven commercial service and, no matter how carefully maintained and operated they are, these aircraft do not measure up to modern safety standards. In truth, they weren’t safe when they were new. It was a desperate emergency, the science and technology were new and constantly evolving, and the war situation made risk for performance a good trade-off. Today, they operate with reduced weights, vastly improved maintenance, and highly experienced crews. I’m not sure it is enough.

At least two killed, 12 injured, when World War II-era plane crashes at Connecticut’s Bradley International Airport

At least two people have died and more were seriously injured when a World War II-era plane crashed at Bradley International Airport in Windsor Locks Wednesday morning.

A B-17 bomber crashed about 10 a.m., bursting into flames and sending up a large plume of smoke that could be seen for miles. Sources say it crashed into a small building as it was trying to land.

492
Dave In Austin  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:45:14am
493
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:45:52am

re: #492 Dave In Austin

I hope they blow all that money and still massively lose.

494
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:46:15am

re: #461 DangerMan

[Embedded content]

the ‘accused’ (as it were) doesnt get to decide what’s legitimate

Like rapists should not be investigated if it was “legitimate”?

If the whistleblower’s claims or statements turn out to be unsubstantiated or contrived, then it would be time to name the person. So let us verify them.

No problem with that as everything Trump did and said was “perfectly” legal, right?

495
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:47:20am

re: #472 Targetpractice

The man is losing whatever little grip on reality he still had in real time, but the only takeaway of the day…is he used a naughty word.

FFS

It is the sort of thing that sticks, like particularly adhesive fecal matter…

496
A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:47:22am

re: #442 b.d. (Impeach them all)

If I were a dignitary I’d tell the translators to go out for some coffee.

Too obvious. I’d tell them to recite poetry or something.

497
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:47:24am

Imagine how the GOP would have been screeching in 1998 if Bill Clinton had used cuss words in an official statement during the impeachment proceedings.

498
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:47:51am

re: #496 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Too obvious. I’d tell them to recite poetry or something.

Vogon poetry.

499
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:53:45am

oh…

500
gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:54:22am
501
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:55:24am

re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The website of the consulting firm that forged business contacts for Rudy Giuliani in Ukraine and Russia for more than a decade vanished suddenly after his communications were subpoenaed.”

cannot wait to hear Rudy tell us why

502
DangerMan  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:55:28am

We’re barely a week into this
No witnesses have testified
There have been requests for dox

And he’s melting down in real time already

It’s gonna be a long wild ride

503
gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:55:58am
504
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:56:09am

re: #501 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

cannot wait to hear Rudy tell us why

heroes…they’re all heroes…

505
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 10:59:13am
506
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2019 • 11:00:49am

re: #502 DangerMan

We’re barely a week into this
No witnesses have testified
There have been requests for did

And he’s melting down in real time already

It’s gonna be a long wild ride

The second things start coming out as evidence or testimony, we are going to see nothing but a web of contradictions…

507
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 11:01:01am

re: #505 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

how high are those heels on trump’s shoes?

508
lawhawk  Oct 2, 2019 • 11:01:19am

re: #505 Backwoods_Sleuth

All these international leaders who have to go to the US to meet to discuss foreign policy are getting sucked into this shitshow. This is how Trump degrades US foreign policy and advances Russia’s interests every fucking day. Trump’s actions and behavior is such that the legitimate work of statecraft and foreign policy can’t get done. It’s all subservient to Trump trying to extract personal concessions to help Trump personally in his ongoing efforts against impeachment, investigate his political rivals, and to discredit the report that he claimed exonerated him.

509
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 11:01:47am
510
b.d. (It's all true)  Oct 2, 2019 • 11:02:42am

re: #501 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

cannot wait to hear Rudy tell us why

WEBSITES GO AWAY ALL THE TIME, REMEMBER MEGAUPLOAD? I WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THAT TOO!

511
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 11:04:04am
512
DangerMan  Oct 2, 2019 • 11:04:53am

re: #490 lawhawk

Bullshit.

Trump surrounds himself with sycophants and suck ups. They wont put the needs of the nation above all else.

Trump relies on this to remain in power. He knows it (and is counting on it). The GOP wont stop him.

Forgot the “/” as usual for me

513
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 11:06:02am
514
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2019 • 11:07:40am
515
DangerMan  Oct 2, 2019 • 11:07:45am

re: #495 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is the sort of thing that sticks, like particularly adhesive fecal matter…

Tricky dick
Moscow mitch

The bullshit presidency

516
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2019 • 11:08:03am

re: #511 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Somebody please get me the fuck out of here.”

517
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2019 • 11:08:35am

re: #514 Backwoods_Sleuth

Only if we can rename it Dino-moose.

518
Belafon  Oct 2, 2019 • 11:12:21am

All of Trump’s statements indicate that he thinks he’s king. Asking Schiff to be investigated for treason is because he thinks the king is above the law.

519
EPR-radar  Oct 2, 2019 • 11:21:13am

re: #497 Eclectic Cyborg

Imagine how the GOP would have been screeching in 1998 if Bill Clinton had used cuss words in an official statement during the impeachment proceedings.

Bill Clinton really should have told Starr to “fuck off and die” with his irrelevant questions.

520
BeenHereAwhile  Oct 2, 2019 • 12:07:27pm

re: #234 Targetpractice

2 weeks ago, the idea of moving on impeachment without the polls all being in majority support was viewed as political suicide and Pelosi was right not to make that move.

2 weeks hence, we’re all marveling at how quickly the polls moved in favor now that she pulled the trigger.

Things that make you go “Hmmm.”

It’s not enough to have a monkey wrench.

Ya gotta know when to use it.


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