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1
Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:45:33am
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Belafon  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:49:46am

re: #336 Eric The Fruit Bat

Trump ignoring Blue states with the new Abbot quick test (waPo)

As Abbott Laboratories began shipping its new rapid-response tests across the country Wednesday, a new flash point emerged in the nation’s handling of the pandemic: where to deploy the covid-19 diagnostics that could be one of the most effective tools in combating the outbreak.

Some White House officials want to ship many of the tests, which were approved Friday and can deliver results in five to 13 minutes, to areas where there are fewer cases, such as rural states and parts of the South. But officials in hard-hit areas and some public health experts favor directing them to the outbreak’s current hotspots, arguing that delays in test readings have sidelined many first responders and health-care workers and made it harder to isolate the most contagious patients.

During a Tuesday meeting of the White House coronavirus task force in the Situation Room, Vice President Pence and other officials discussed diverting new tests to areas where there are relatively few cases, according to two individuals familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal deliberations.

They said the administration needs “to figure out the spread in places where we don’t quite understand it now,” according to one of the individuals present. The final consensus seemed to be, “Let’s send it to the South and low density areas.”

What they want to do is test in rural areas to show that the numbers aren’t as bad as people say they are. What they might find out is that the virus is in places that people never thought it would get to and cause everyone to panic.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:49:53am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

COMING SOON: 60 DAYS TO SLOW THE SPREAD!

We have 244 days to stop the plague.

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:50:49am

re: #3 Decatur Deb

We have 244 days to stop the plague.

I will crawl over virus to vote this November.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:51:28am

Cause the virus is afraid of churches?

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) undercut his own stay-at-home order by exempting religious services from that necessary step to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

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sagehen  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:52:15am

Best line from this Closer Look:

“Trump says he’s a cheerleader for the nation. Yeah, cheerleader, that sounds right — standing on the sidelines, facing the wrong direction.”

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:52:39am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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And “slow the spread” does not mean “over”, everyone back to work

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:53:34am

re: #6 sagehen

Best line from this Closer Look:

“Trump says he’s a cheerleader for the nation. Yeah, cheerleader, that sounds right — standing on the sidelines, facing the wrong direction.”

Leading from the rear.

He’s a rear echelon motherfucker (REMF). Anyone who served, or knew anyone who served, would know what that refers to.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:53:44am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

“I NEVER SAID APRIL.”

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Decatur Deb  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:53:45am

re: #6 sagehen

Best line from this Closer Look:

“Trump says he’s a cheerleader for the nation. Yeah, cheerleader, that sounds right — standing on the sidelines, facing the wrong direction.”

And showing a lot of ass.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:54:09am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:55:07am

re: #10 Decatur Deb

And showing a lot of ass.

Thank you for that mental image I did not want.

Anyone have any brain bleach handy?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:55:47am

re: #12 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Thank you for that mental image I did not want.

Anyone have any brain bleach handy?

Costco is out.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:56:13am

re: #13 Decatur Deb

Costco is out.

Why do you think I’m throwing myself at the mercy of the Lizards?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:56:18am

re: #12 klys (maker of Silmarils)

::: one gallon bottle of brain bleach :::
to Klys

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William Lewis  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:56:43am

re: #8 lawhawk

Leading from the rear.

He’s a rear echelon motherfucker (REMF). Anyone who served, or knew anyone who served, would know what that refers to.

That’s all cowards can do.

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Charmingly Persistent  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:05:10am

Ok, this is very cool! The New York Times has an interactive page where you can check out your state and its counties to see cases/100,000 and how the cases are increasing over time.

nytimes.com

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:05:32am

“The South” is trending, and while I agree with Jason and others warning not to paint “The South” with a broad brush

This was pretty funny.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:07:17am

So the Worldometer turned over a million.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:07:22am

re: #18 Barefoot Grin

“The South” is trending, and while I agree with Jason and others warning not to paint “The South” with a broad brush

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Isbell did a concert for one of our most progressive candidates.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:08:43am

re: #5 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Cause the virus is afraid of churches?

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) undercut his own stay-at-home order by exempting religious services from that necessary step to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

Don’t underestimate the Power of Jay-Zuss to…create a bumper crop of Darwin Award winners!

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:12:38am
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:12:47am

re: #20 Decatur Deb

Isbell did a concert for one of our most progressive candidates.

Yeah, he’s great. I probably shouldn’t have posted the second one because the issue of life in rural areas in other parts of the country is the same and that attitude doesn’t help progressives who are trying to change things.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:13:00am

Somebody is attacking Matthew Yglesias because he once said something less than totally negative about LGF.

The comments at LGF, as bad as they got at times, were light years better (on the whole) than the utter hateful garbage that’s common these days at right wing sites.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:15:07am

Damn it, took so long to find the pic I got CL’d
re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

It took Shelby months to breach this obstacle

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:15:17am

re: #24 Charles Johnson

From posts 18 years ago.

Eighteen fucking years they’re still holding a grudge because you split with the right.

Fuck ‘em. You were right.

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wrenchwench  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:15:17am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:18:28am
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Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:20:05am

re: #25 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Don’t over-think it, Shelby.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:21:27am

re: #26 lawhawk

From posts 18 years ago.

Eighteen fucking years they’re still holding a grudge because you split with the right.

Fuck ‘em. You were right.

I think this guy is one of those leftists who has a very exaggerated memory of what LGF used to be like, and doesn’t really care what’s happened in the past decade or so.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:22:04am

Yes, DeSantis’ order is purposefully vague, and does exempt religious services:

Scribd Document

Note that in the exemption he doesn’t even stress the social distancing, as he does with the also exempted “recreational services”.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:24:11am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Don’t over-think it, Shelby.

She still backs away from me when I’m holding an empty paper towel tube.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:26:40am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:27:49am
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Citizen K  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:28:40am

re: #5 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Cause the virus is afraid of churches?

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) undercut his own stay-at-home order by exempting religious services from that necessary step to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

re: #31 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yes, DeSantis’ order is purposefully vague, and does exempt religious services:

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Note that in the exemption he doesn’t even stress the social distancing, as he does with the also exempted “recreational services”.

It’s worse than that. If this is to be believed, he’s actually destroying far more effective local efforts by having the statewide order supersede all the local orders.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:33:15am

Stage 4 Cancer, you’re slacking!

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:33:30am

re: #35 Citizen K

It’s worse than that. If this is to be believed, he’s actually destroying far more effective local efforts by having the statewide order supersede all the local orders.

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when he won the election i was counting on him being merely incompetent
turns out he’s a real pinhead

im still not leaving the house

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:34:12am

re: #2 Belafon

Gov. Pritzker was on the phone with Abbott and they promised to keep the first shipment of tests in IL. Being an IL company, I’m ok with this… even if I weren’t a resident.

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William Lewis  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:35:09am

So it is apparently the Flying Phoenix rather than the Roaring Dragon. And apparently simply for being a supporter and sharing that I think of it like this:

The SWORDSMAN
For ten years I have been polishing this sword;
Its frosty edge has never been put to the test.
Now I am holding it and showing it to you, sir:
Is there anyone suffering from injustice ?

Jia Dao
(779-843)

I shall not argue when such an honor is given to me, especially one so well suited to the strike and thrust :)

Some quick photos:

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:35:34am

re: #36 The Pie Overlord!

Stage 4 Cancer, you’re slacking!

Stage 4 Cancer: It’s not my job to save you from yourselves. Why would a cancer destroy a cancer?

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Teddy's Person  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:36:06am

This gave me a much needed chuckle this morning.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:36:10am

once again:

China / success
United States - not success
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Belafon  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:36:29am

re: #39 William Lewis

So it is apparently the Flying Phoenix rather than the Roaring Dragon. And apparently simply for being a supporter and sharing that I think of it like this:

I shall not argue when such an honor is given to me, especially one so well suited to the strike and thrust :)

Some quick photos:

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You realize it’s got to taste blood before you can put it back, right?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:36:45am

re: #38 GlutenFreeJesus

In Philly HUP (Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania) is also working on a at home test for this virus. If it stayed in the Greater Delaware Valley I would not be upset.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:37:31am

re: #39 William Lewis

So it is apparently the Flying Phoenix rather than the Roaring Dragon. And apparently simply for being a supporter and sharing that I think of it like this:

I shall not argue when such an honor is given to me, especially one so well suited to the strike and thrust :)

Some quick photos:

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er…
enjoy?
use it in good health?

seriously though - congrats

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:37:58am

re: #41 Teddy’s Person

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Mattand  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:38:07am

re: #36 The Pie Overlord!

Stage 4 Cancer, you’re slacking!

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I can’t wait for the inevitable “I stand by my 2/24 comments, because all evidence showed me that was the case” backpedaling.

Which, of course, is horseshit, because no one was saying that then. But dittoheads aren’t exactly known for dealing with reality or researching thoroughly.

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William Lewis  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:38:34am

re: #43 Belafon

You realize it’s got to taste blood before you can put it back, right?

Not until it’s eaten the first time. Then you awaken The Hunger… / (well 1/2. The cuts on my hands over the years would think so ;)

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gwangung  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:39:36am

re: #39 William Lewis

Wow.

(I’ve written a play with a lot of sword play and was looking into getting a couple of props. Was supposed to open end of May, but that’s gone now….we’ll see how it goes…)

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:41:10am

Feel good video:

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:42:47am

Ya think?

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William Lewis  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:43:04am

re: #49 gwangung

Wow.

(I’ve written a play with a lot of sword play and was looking into getting a couple of props. Was supposed to open end of May, but that’s gone now….we’ll see how it goes…)

When things get better again, this is their site: lkchensword.com

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gwangung  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:44:22am

re: #52 William Lewis

When things get better again, this is their site: lkchensword.com

Wow. Thanks.

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makeitstop  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:44:46am

So, an enterprising Youtuber took footage from Aqua Teen Hunger Force and substituted Master Shake’s voice with that of Mark Levin - and it’s actually pretty hard to tell the difference.

Master Levin Talks Golf

Aqua Teen’s Master Shake sounds suspiciously like radio’s Mark Levin

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:46:20am

re: #42 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

I put this up earlier. Frightening.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:48:10am

re: #55 Rightwingconspirator

I put this up earlier. Frightening.

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we’re, uh, #1? //

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:52:33am

nothing’s my fault, i dont take responsibility at all

(who controls the stockpiles? the dpa?)

Trump Attacks Hospitals As Insatiable ‘Complainers’ Amid Crisis

“The complainers should have been stocked up and ready long before this crisis hit,” tweeted the president, who belittled the coronavirus pandemic for weeks.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:53:26am

re: #35 Citizen K

It’s worse than that. If this is to be believed, he’s actually destroying far more effective local efforts by having the statewide order supersede all the local orders.

DeSantis is doing exactly what the atavists who elected him wanted - bury his head in the sand.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:53:52am

re: #57 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

They are not kissing his ass the right way that is why he is attacking them.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:53:56am

they’re starting to say the quiet parts out loud

he also admitted he doesn’t like the fact that absentee ballots will make it easier for people to vote ― and presumably increase turnout ― because that will hurt Republicans.

“The president said it best ― this will be extremely devastating to Republicans and conservatives in Georgia,” said Ralston.

“Every registered voter is going to get one of these. Now I ask you … what was turnout in the primary back in 2018 or 2016. Was it 100%? No. No. It’s way, way, way lower. This will certainly drive up turnout,” he added.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:55:04am

He should get zero assistance. He should not get a single dollar in aid to bail out his failed businesses. Capitalism and all that. Fuck him and the GOP that rode in on him (and vice versa). They own this disaster and the thousands dead. No fucking way he should ever see a dime while victims have to figure out how to bury their loved ones under these circumstances.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:55:20am

So, not at all happy with the Amazon ‘Messaging Assistant’
Package tracker said one of my packages had been delivered.
Even had an image of it sitting sitting at the front door.
Just not my front door
Definitely somewhere in the complex.
But, the stupid ass “Messaging Assistant’ won’t let you actually tell it that they dropped the package at the wrong door/building. Just that it has not been delivered.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:55:45am

re: #57 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

nothing’s my fault, i dont take responsibility at all

(who controls the stockpiles? the dpa?)

Trump Attacks Hospitals As Insatiable ‘Complainers’ Amid Crisis

Keep America Greater Again

/

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:56:16am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:57:02am

re: #64 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

As if the Murdochs care.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:58:06am

re: #62 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

If you know the neighbor go to their house and politely exchange the packages. It has happened to me quite a few times.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:58:09am

re: #61 lawhawk

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He should get zero assistance. He should not get a single dollar in aid to bail out his failed businesses. Capitalism and all that. Fuck him and the GOP that rode in on him (and vice versa). They own this disaster and the thousands dead. No fucking way he should ever see a dime while victims have to figure out how to bury their loved ones under these circumstances.

“The coronavirus outbreak is costing Trump Organization properties more than a million dollars in lost revenue daily and may have hurt the firm’s chances of earning a record price on the sale of its Washington hotel,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:01:06pm

re: #62 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

So, not at all happy with the Amazon ‘Messaging Assistant’
Package tracker said one of my packages had been delivered.
Even had an image of it sitting sitting at the front door.
Just not my front door
Definitely somewhere in the complex.
But, the stupid ass “Messaging Assistant’ won’t let you actually tell it that they dropped the package at the wrong door/building. Just that it has not been delivered.

i returned two items in the same box - with two packing slips
they ‘received’ one and i got credit
they say the other wasnt received, even though i have screenshots of them saying they found it
took 2 months to straighten it out - multiple sessions (pdf’d) with the ‘assistant’ and a few ‘chats’ to boot becuase they charged and then had to credit my c/c two extra times

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Teddy's Person  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:04:14pm

re: #62 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

So, not at all happy with the Amazon ‘Messaging Assistant’
Package tracker said one of my packages had been delivered.
Even had an image of it sitting sitting at the front door.
Just not my front door
Definitely somewhere in the complex.
But, the stupid ass “Messaging Assistant’ won’t let you actually tell it that they dropped the package at the wrong door/building. Just that it has not been delivered.

I had a similar situation, and I was very frustrating dealing with that “Messaging Assistant.” I checked the box for not delivered, and they issued a refund (the order was worth less than $30). A couple of weeks later, the person that actually got my package turned it in to the apartment office.

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Jay C  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:04:42pm

re: #65 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As if the Murdochs care.

Not only that, it’s not just that the President has been “subjected to misinformation” from Fox, it has most DEFINITELY worked the other way round, too.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:06:02pm

re: #66 PhillyPretzel

If you know the neighbor go to their house and politely exchange the packages. It has happened to me quite a few times.

When it happened to me, I had no way of knowing where it got delivered.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:08:13pm

re: #61 lawhawk

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He should get zero assistance. He should not get a single dollar in aid to bail out his failed businesses. Capitalism and all that. Fuck him and the GOP that rode in on him (and vice versa). They own this disaster and the thousands dead. No fucking way he should ever see a dime while victims have to figure out how to bury their loved ones under these circumstances.

There was some scuttlebutt from the son of a dead Deusche Bank executive that the loans were covered from Russia. Might explain the very long phone call the other day (takes CT cap off…).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:09:05pm

re: #72 Barefoot Grin

There was some scuttlebutt from the son of a dead Deusche Bank executive that the loans were covered from Russia. Might explain the very long phone call the other day (takes CT cap off…).

He has a lot of Russian mobsters leaning heavily on him…he is grateful for the fact that he does not have to leave home.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:09:13pm

Whoa

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:09:43pm

re: #71 Teddy’s Person

It has happened quite a few times to me. Once it was across the street and I left a polite little note with it. Another time it was when both my neighbor and I were expecting packages. Without thinking my neighbor ripped open my package and placed the package at my door and started to yell at the “dumbass delivery” (his words) people so they fixed it on the spot.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:10:23pm

re: #70 Jay C

Not only that, it’s not just that the President has been “subjected to misinformation” from Fox, it has most DEFINITELY worked the other way round, too.

subjected to and acted on, to the detriment of the country and it’s citizens

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:11:22pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:11:26pm

re: #65 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As if the Murdochs care.

They will only care if they get sued and lose money.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:13:23pm

Love in the time of covid19.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:13:40pm

re: #74 Patricia Kayden

Whoa

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And it won’t be very long before more than 25% of the confirmed cases will be in the good old USA…

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:15:40pm

re: #80 Mike Lamb

We’re approaching where 1 in 1000 Americans has covid19. That is only going to get worse.

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sagehen  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:18:22pm

re: #61 lawhawk

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He should get zero assistance. He should not get a single dollar in aid to bail out his failed businesses. Capitalism and all that. Fuck him and the GOP that rode in on him (and vice versa). They own this disaster and the thousands dead. No fucking way he should ever see a dime while victims have to figure out how to bury their loved ones under these circumstances.

Wasn’t there a clause in the bill that specifically prohibited any relief funds going to companies owned by elected officials or their families?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:20:36pm

re: #80 Mike Lamb

And it won’t be very long before more than 25% of the confirmed cases will be in the good old USA…

I mentioned earlier, New York State, with 20 million inhabitants has 92K confirmed cases and 2.4K dead

Germany, with 83 million inhabitants, has 81K cases and 1K dead…

that is pretty scary, inasmuch as Germany has had restrictions in place since March 16th…

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:23:19pm

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The difference of a couple of days in instituting stay-at-home restrictions has devastating consequences. Lack of aggressive testing is another problem.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:23:30pm

re: #66 PhillyPretzel

If you know the neighbor go to their house and politely exchange the packages. It has happened to me quite a few times.

pic just showed the door step, and the door mat (not mine)
Could be literally any of a couple hundred apartments

re: #69 Teddy’s Person

I had a similar situation, and I was very frustrating dealing with that “Messaging Assistant.” I checked the box for not delivered, and they issued a refund (the order was worth less than $30). A couple of weeks later, the person that actually got my package turned it in to the apartment office.

Big problem, the leasing office will no longer receive packages, coronavirus and all

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:24:38pm

re: #84 lawhawk

The difference of a couple of days in instituting stay-at-home restrictions has devastating consequences. Lack of aggressive testing is another problem.

Germany does not have pulpit pimps or ox News out convincing people that this is just a flu or that God will smite those microorganism with his tiny-but-mighty sword

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:25:04pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:27:34pm

Here is something just as alarming as the COVID-19 toll. In today’s Washington Post there is an article that Dr Fauci is being threatened.
washingtonpost.com

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:28:09pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:29:34pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:29:43pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:30:01pm

re: #36 The Pie Overlord!

Stage 4 Cancer, you’re slacking!

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When it comes to Limbaugh I’m rooting for the cancer cells.

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:30:46pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:31:12pm

re: #82 sagehen

Wasn’t there a clause in the bill that specifically prohibited any relief funds going to companies owned by elected officials or their families?

Hmm, would that stop them from tossing money at the company partially owned by Jared’s brother? The same ones that were doing the web-site project that suddenly stopped.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:31:43pm

The news just gets worse.

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:31:56pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:32:54pm

re: #93 gocart mozart

Imagine that…criminal enterprises will try to take advantage of the crisis…where did we see that?

Trump’s Company Seeks Financial Help as Coronavirus Takes Toll

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:33:00pm

Heh, ‘Prison Planet fans’ should stick to their lane of expertise:
Failing to find actual prison trains

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Dread Pirate  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:34:28pm

… and worse.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:35:30pm

re: #93 gocart mozart

They going into the respirator business? Sinaloa black market respirators?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:35:35pm

re: #85 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

pic just showed the door step, and the door mat (not mine)
Could be literally any of a couple hundred apartments

Big problem, the leasing office will no longer receive packages, coronavirus and all

My apartment management office handled the box I got by mistake by having the maintenance staff pick it up and take it to the proper apartment.

He showed up expecting a package or small box and I handed him a 3x2x2 (roughly) box. (Contained 40 16”x20” treated painting canvases from how the box was labeled.) I did thank him for taking care of it. (The person supposed to get it was not answering emails from the office after I reported the package to said office.)

I think this is the 2nd or 3rd package for that apartment that has turned up at my door. And I’ve had an Amazon package fail to show up here. Street addresses for two groups of apartment buildings are not very clearly marked.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:35:50pm

I genuinely get why people turn to religion right now but it’s a contagious disease. No one is saying you can’t pray or be without scripture. I’m someone who loves going to baseball games and musical venues but it’s prudent to not play games and concerts now. Religion is no different.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:38:02pm

re: #102 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I genuinely get why people turn to religion right now but it’s a contagious disease. No one is saying you can’t pray or be without scripture. I’m someone who loves going to baseball games and musical venues but it’s prudent to not play games and concerts now. Religion is no different.

forget it, we are dealing with people who are not rational, who will insist that god will somehow protect them from contagion if they are worshiping him…it is some sick, sick shit and it is going to get people killed

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:38:25pm

re: #102 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I genuinely get why people turn to religion right now but it’s a contagious disease. No one is saying you can’t pray or be without scripture. I’m someone who loves going to baseball games and musical venues but it’s prudent to not play games and concerts now. Religion is no different.

Maybe they’re gathering in the churches since they expect Covid-19 to slay the libs just outside their doors much as the germs stopped the Martians at the last minute in War of the Worlds.
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:38:26pm

re: #77 gocart mozart

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Let’s be realistic. Part of the failure in slowing the spread is that PEOPLE ARE NOT SHELTERING IN PLACE. Too many routinely ignore social distancing. Pritzker issued an order a couple weeks ago and what happened? The first nice day Chicagoans swamped the parks and the walks by the lake. The mayor had to close down the lakefront trail and other public places. A friend who lives in Arizona told me today that though they were taking walks in the nearby forests, they had to stop because so many were clogging the paths that it was impossible to keep the appropriate distance.

My sister’s good friend who lives in Spain is sheltering in place at their beach house. They can go outside on their terrace and one (ONLY one) can go shopping, but otherwise they are confined to their property. We need to be doing more to keep people apart.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:41:23pm

Tiny tears ran down his tiny ugly racist face as his love’s letter arrived and he read it….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:41:27pm

re: #105 Hecuba’s daughter

My sister’s good friend who lives in Spain is sheltering in place at their beach house. They can go outside on their terrace and one (ONLY one) can go shopping, but otherwise they are confined to their property. We need to be doing more to keep people apart.

Germany has issued a Kontaktverbot, a ban on groups of two or more unless immediate family or members of your household. People are generally adhering to it, and it seems to be working.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:42:13pm

re: #105 Hecuba’s daughter

A metric shit-ton of NYers came out to line the Hudson River watching the hospital ship come up to Pier 90 to dock. NYPD wasn’t moving to disperse the crowds until DeBlasio called them to do so.

DeBlasio has also been slow to shut down playgrounds and other common spaces to keep dispersing crowds.

Even in my town, people tend to congregate together when they shouldn’t.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:45:19pm

re: #99 Dread Pirate

… and worse.

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I don’t have any background in epidemiology, but I would think that would be obvious. It’s not like it’s just air that comes out when you breath or speak. Sneezing or coughing just extends the reach.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:45:48pm

I just posted a page about Dr Fauci.
littlegreenfootballs.com

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Decatur Deb  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:48:16pm

re: #105 Hecuba’s daughter

We (73 & 76) shut down 15 days ago, partially as a test. We left the house once for a doctor visit and a pre-packed grocery pickup. An old coworker who lives nearby comes by each day for lunch, but she is held to the same self-quarantine regimen. (On nice days we walk around the empty half-mile block at dawn.) Our GOP governor still hasn’t ordered a shelter-in-place. AL has about 1200 cases and 40 dead.

The serious quarantine starts about now and will likely go to about 15 May per the U Wash projections.

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William Lewis  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:48:47pm

re: #102 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I genuinely get why people turn to religion right now but it’s a contagious disease. No one is saying you can’t pray or be without scripture. I’m someone who loves going to baseball games and musical venues but it’s prudent to not play games and concerts now. Religion is no different.

One thing that the various catholic traditions (in this sense, orthodox, roman and anglican) have is the daily office - prayers that are easily done by one self. This is a direct inheritance from our Jewish beginnings and is especially helpful in days like these. A prayer book and a bible is all that is needed. When it is safe, we’ll get together again. In the meantime? The bishop emailed us directions on how to celebrate holy week at home.
I’ll put the pdf behind the privacy tags - if you are interested, help yourself.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:48:50pm

re: #108 lawhawk

A metric shit-ton of NYers came out to line the Hudson River watching the hospital ship come up to Pier 90 to dock. NYPD wasn’t moving to disperse the crowds until DeBlasio called them to do so.

DeBlasio has also been slow to shut down playgrounds and other common spaces to keep dispersing crowds.

Even in my town, people tend to congregate together when they shouldn’t.

My sister has a very good friend in her 80’s dying of a heart condition. She lives at home with her husband. When she celebrated her birthday a few days ago, her Chicago area children and grandchildren came to be with her. They knew that this was probably the last time they would see her — but this was clearly a violation of the orders. These situations are heart-breaking but their action subjects everyone to more risk.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:49:02pm

re: #108 lawhawk

A metric shit-ton of NYers came out to line the Hudson River watching the hospital ship come up to Pier 90 to dock. NYPD wasn’t moving to disperse the crowds until DeBlasio called them to do so.

DeBlasio has also been slow to shut down playgrounds and other common spaces to keep dispersing crowds.

Even in my town, people tend to congregate together when they shouldn’t.

My Zip code is one of the hottest hot zones in Michigan. The kosher bodega WHERE EVERYONE GETS THEIR PASSOVER SUPPLIES is a nexus, just as it was a year ago for measles. Unfortunately there is no where else to buy most of this stuff. The local supermarkets (Meijer, Kroger) are not much better. At least my son is here to do the shopping.

When I was cleaning out one of the bathroom cabinets I found a box of surgical masks that my daughter bought during last year’s measles outbreak. Not N95’s but we can wear them when we go out.

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BeachDem  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:51:32pm

Wash. nursing home faces $611,000 fine over lapses during fatal coronavirus outbreak

In a letter Wednesday to Life Care Center of Kirkland, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services wrote that the nursing home failed to report an outbreak of respiratory illness to local authorities for two weeks as required by law, gave inadequate care to its residents during the outbreak and failed to provide 24-hour emergency doctor services.

washingtonpost.com

Quelle surprise—

While there are many nursing home providers that have very few lawsuits or citations brought against them, others seem to have more than their fair share. One facility to which this applies is Life Care Centers of America.

nursinghomeabuseguide.org

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:53:22pm

re: #113 Hecuba’s daughter

At some point, as people are near their end, we’re just going to accept that we’re going to do things that otherwise we shouldn’t.

The CFR is above 1% in most places, rising in most places, and well above 1% in many places.

Unless, as some like to speculate, there have been vastly more infections than have been tested, we’re going to lose a lot of people.

This is the first global pandemic of this type since 1918-1919. None of us have been in a situation where a lot of people around us are dying. Other than those in war torn areas, where there are large casualties, few of us have had to live in a society where death is so present.

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makeitstop  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:54:30pm

So…

Anybody want to check ownership of those companies to see if anyone named Trump is involved?

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:54:51pm

.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:55:57pm

re: #117 makeitstop

So…

Anybody want to check ownership of those companies to see if anyone named Trump is involved?

I guess this is real now. Until he tweets that he COULD invoke it…

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 2, 2020 • 12:57:23pm

re: #42 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

once again:

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We can’t seriously hold China up as an example of success. The Chinese numbers are simply not credible. It’s tough to speculate on the real numbers in the absence of evidence, but a total leveling off of cases and deaths for six weeks is not plausible, not after such exponential growth.

For actual success, South Korea is a better example. Widespread testing, isolation, and bending the curve downwards successfully. Some other nations, like Japan and places like Washington state, also have done well, though it looks like they never had a serious outbreak and had a significant element of luck with how things have gone for them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:03:24pm

re: #109 Mike Lamb

I don’t have any background in epidemiology, but I would think that would be obvious. It’s not like it’s just air that comes out when you breath or speak. Sneezing or coughing just extends the reach.

Also, even if it can be passed by breathing or talking, social distancing will help lower that risk.

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sagehen  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:04:03pm

re: #114 The Pie Overlord!

My Zip code is one of the hottest hot zones in Michigan. The kosher bodega WHERE EVERYONE GETS THEIR PASSOVER SUPPLIES is a nexus, just as it was a year ago for measles. Unfortunately there is no where else to buy most of this stuff. The local supermarkets (Meijer, Kroger) are not much better. At least my son is here to do the shopping.

When I was cleaning out one of the bathroom cabinets I found a box of surgical masks that my daughter bought during last year’s measles outbreak. Not N95’s but we can wear them when we go out.

I went to the kosher butcher this morning.

They’ll take orders over the phone, deliver to your house if you already have a house account, on the sidewalk for everyone else. The total price of your order is rounded to nearest five dollars, so no change needs to be given.

No customers in the shop. None.

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:05:28pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

c. When Officer Eckerfield entered the main entrance
of the West Basin Container Terminal, he observed the same
individual, wearing a bright yellow fluorescent-colored safety
vest and a backpack walking in his direction. Officer
Eckerfield dismounted his motorcycle, drew his weapon, and
ordered the individual to the ground. The individual was later
identified as MORENO via a California Driver’s License that was
in his possession.

d. While Officer Eckerfield detained MORENO, without
provocation MORENO made a series of spontaneous statements such as:
~~You only get this chance once. The whole world is
watching. I had to. People don’t know what’s going on here.
Now they will. At night, they turn off the lights and don’t let
anyone in. I’m going to expose this to the world. When was the
last time you went to Dodgers’ stadium? We might not be able to
go again.”

10. Based on my review of LAPP’s reports and my
conversation with Sgt. Clements, I know that MORENO said the
following:

a. MORENO said he “did it” because people need to
know what was going on with the Coronavirus (“COVID-19”)
pandemic and the U.S.N.S. Mercy. MORENO stated that he was not
sick, but he had been watching and “putting all the pieces
together.” MORENO stated that `they are segregating us and it
needs to be put in the open.” MORENO is suspicious of the U.S.N.S. Mercy and believes it had an alternate purpose related
to the COVID-19 or a government takeover.

b. MORENO stated that he has been an employee of
Rail Company 1 for many years and worked as an engineer. MORENO
stated that he was responsible for moving train cars using a
locomotive. MORENO stated that when he came to work, referring
to March 31st, - everything was normal. While MORENO was
“pushing” the last train car of the day, he started thinking
about “everything” and “just kept going and going.” MORENO
stated: `~I don’t know. Sometimes you just get a little snap and
man, it was fricking exciting I just had it and I was
committed. I just went for it, I had one chance.”

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sagehen  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:05:48pm

re: #116 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This is the first global pandemic of this type since 1918-1919. None of us have been in a situation where a lot of people around us are dying. Other than those in war torn areas, where there are large casualties, few of us have had to live in a society where death is so present.

Gay New Yorkers and San Franciscans in the 1980’s. This is very familiar to them.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:06:26pm

re: #82 sagehen

Wasn’t there a clause in the bill that specifically prohibited any relief funds going to companies owned by elected officials or their families?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:06:50pm

re: #124 sagehen

Gay New Yorkers and San Franciscans in the 1980’s. This is very familiar to them.

Yes, I was going to write that. But most of us are not in those communities, so that epidemic was always about “the other”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:06:51pm

re: #124 sagehen

Gay New Yorkers and San Franciscans in the 1980’s. This is very familiar to them.

Yep, even the part where the President is trying to ignore and downplay the risks.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:06:58pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:08:05pm

re: #128 Mescalero09

lol. Kitty found a nice soft spot to sleep in.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:08:50pm

re: #129 PhillyPretzel

lol. Kitty found a nice soft spot to sleep in.

Probably scared the crap out of more than one person too….

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Decatur Deb  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:09:22pm

re: #123 gocart mozart

`~

I don’t know. Sometimes you just get a little snap and
man, it was fricking exciting I just had it and I was
committed. I just went for it, I had one chance.

You Only Fuckup Once.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:09:30pm

It’s about fucking time:

NYTimes: F.D.A. Relaxes Blood Donation Guidelines for Gay Men and Others

The Food and Drug Administration announced on Thursday that it was reducing the amount of time men who have had sex with men should wait before they give blood, from one year to three months, in hopes of spurring blood donation amid a drastic drop in supply during the coronavirus pandemic.

The earlier 12-month waiting period was intensely criticized as discriminatory and antiquated when the F.D.A. introduced it in 2015, as the agency formally ended a decades-old, lifetime prohibition on blood donations from gay and bisexual men. L.G.B.T.Q. advocates applauded the F.D.A.’s move on Thursday, but said they would work to lift the waiting period entirely.

“L.G.B.T.Q. Americans can hold their heads up today and know that our voices will always triumph over discrimination,” said Sarah Kate Ellis, the president and chief executive of GLAAD. “This is a victory for all of us who spoke out against the discriminatory ban on gay and bisexual men donating blood.”

The F.D.A. also previously recommended that women who have had sex with men who have had sex with men in the past year not donate blood. The revisions on Thursday lowered that period to three months as well.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:09:40pm

re: #120 Renaissance_Man

South Korea is doing a job for which we can only hope our Republican death-cult would follow, but look at this graph of SK’s cases:

One fourth of their cases have happened during the linear growth stage.

There is no way out of this: until a vaccine is available globally, locales will be closed down to outsiders in an attempt to avoid a second wave.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:09:41pm

To the grocery store this morning. No hand sanitizer that I could see (since I don’t actually need any, I just glanced at the shelf), but there was quite a bit of TP and paper towels, even three hours after the store opened. Still low stock on staple-type items, but the shelves weren’t stripped bare.

I stopped at Peet’s first off, and they’re not sending Costa Rican coffee to the store —apparently, they’re limiting what they give the stores to the most popular varieties. Disaster. But the grocery store still had some, and I got two packages. That, with what I already have, gives me enough for nine weeks (I blend it, so I use 1/4 pound or less a week), which may qualify as hoarding. We all have our special needs.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:11:32pm

re: #84 lawhawk

The difference of a couple of days in instituting stay-at-home restrictions has devastating consequences. Lack of aggressive testing is another problem.

Also, Germany has a quite good medical system, with over twice the ICU beds per 100,000 residents compared to Italy - and since their outbreak is much more diffuse than NYC’s in terms of physical area, no one hospital (or cluster of hospitals) is being overwhelmed by it.

NYC’s hospitals really have nowhere to turn, in part because all of the hospitals around them are also ramping up (northern NJ in particular is hard hit as well). And while the US technically has a higher # of ICU beds per 100,000 people, I know that this includes a large number of neonatal ICU beds. I don’t have a good estimate for how many of the German ICU beds are in that category.

None of this affects the total number of cases, of course - that’s all testing and social distancing. But it does have a real impact on the number of preventable deaths.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:13:21pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:13:52pm

re: #95 Dread Pirate

The news just gets worse.

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but desantis said no worries
wishful thinking ignorant idiots

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:14:48pm

re: #115 BeachDem

Trump admin wants to loosen regulatory oversight of nursing homes.

The area in particular affected by the change: infection control.

He’s doing this even in the midst of an outbreak where nursing homes have been particularly hard hit.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:15:35pm

re: #102 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I genuinely get why people turn to religion right now but it’s a contagious disease. No one is saying you can’t pray or be without scripture. I’m someone who loves going to baseball games and musical venues but it’s prudent to not play games and concerts now. Religion is no different.

the
virus
dont
care

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:15:56pm

re: #133 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

South Korea is doing a job for which we can only hope our Republican death-cult would follow, but look at this graph of SK’s cases:

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One fourth of their cases have happened during the linear growth stage.

There is no way out of this: until a vaccine is available globally, locales will be closed down to outsiders in an attempt to avoid a second wave.

More important, though, than the number of cases is the death doubling rate. Only 165 or so total deaths in SK, and a doubling time of about two weeks. That’s the result of widespread testing, isolation, quarantine of those infected, and a hospital system that can keep up with the sick.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:16:18pm

re: #137 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

The NY outbreak initially centered on a bar mitzvah celebration in New Rochelle. NJ outbreaks have also been linked to shuls. Lakewood NJ is a nexus of cases, and the hasidic community there keeps ignoring public health officials and holding gatherings exceeding the limits set by officials.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:16:34pm

O_o

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:18:14pm

Ever get the feeling that in the middle of The Plagues, the last thing you they wanted to see show up was robed religious folks?

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:19:41pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:19:54pm

re: #135 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For context: Germany is estimated to have 29.2 ICU beds per 100,000 residents. Even if we assume a quarter of those are neonatal (based on total US numbers, this is not an unreasonable assumption), that’s 21.9 ICU beds per 100,000 residents.

A study back in 2005 looking at NYC’s preparedness for a flu surge (with additional need for mechanical ventilation) gives 1713 as the number of staffed ICU beds in NYC hospitals. Let’s be nice and round that up to 1800, because maybe they added some in the last 15 years. That’s 2.1 ICU beds per 100,000 residents, assuming 8,500,000 NYers.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:21:00pm

re: #102 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I genuinely get why people turn to religion right now but it’s a contagious disease. No one is saying you can’t pray or be without scripture. I’m someone who loves going to baseball games and musical venues but it’s prudent to not play games and concerts now. Religion is no different.

Happy my relatives are already posting on Facebook that people are being stopped from praying and reading the Bible. Posts are saying that the “deep state” has decided to move against churches to undercut Trump…

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:21:33pm

re: #120 Renaissance_Man

We can’t seriously hold China up as an example of success. The Chinese numbers are simply not credible. It’s tough to speculate on the real numbers in the absence of evidence, but a total leveling off of cases and deaths for six weeks is not plausible, not after such exponential growth.

For actual success, South Korea is a better example. Widespread testing, isolation, and bending the curve downwards successfully. Some other nations, like Japan and places like Washington state, also have done well, though it looks like they never had a serious outbreak and had a significant element of luck with how things have gone for them.

ok

south korea
United States - not success
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:23:09pm

I used their letter format, and sent it via my Rep’s contact link on his official house.gov page. So the service they’re using doesn’t get my data

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:23:28pm

re: #128 Mescalero09

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those disney people are really talented

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:23:28pm

re: #146 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy my relatives are already posting on Facebook that people are being stopped from praying and reading the Bible. Posts are saying that the “deep state” has decided to move against churches to undercut Trump…

I know. I’m genuinely astonished at people being this dangerously stupid.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:23:51pm

re: #143 Mescalero09

Ever get the feeling that in the middle of The Plagues, the last thing you wanted to see show up was robed religious folks?

Or mimes.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:24:19pm

Dear President Trump:

You are now presiding over a country that has never had to deal with such a widespread contagion - not even the 1918 Influenza pandemic comes close.

Yet what do we see - the executive branch of the most mightiest country on the planet sucking up to corporations who can’t/won’t do a thing in stopping the spread of COVID19.

Now we also see reports that your vast real estate holding are now suffering.

Seems to me that you have only one choice:

Either you bring the full weight of the US Government to fight COVID19, or you don’t.

It’s your choice.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:24:28pm

re: #133 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

South Korea is doing a job for which we can only hope our Republican death-cult would follow, but look at this graph of SK’s cases:

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One fourth of their cases have happened during the linear growth stage.

There is no way out of this: until a vaccine is available globally, locales will be closed down to outsiders in an attempt to avoid a second wave.

The woman or man that will be the hero is the one that develops a rapid response serum test that will confirm if people already had been infected, along with confirmation of immunity once you get fully through your infection (I mean, I assume that no such test exists). Being able to quickly and conclusively determine that an individual isn’t a risk of becoming sick or being a carrier would go a long ways towards moving us forward.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:27:06pm

re: #153 Mike Lamb

The woman or man that will be the hero is the one that develops a rapid response serum test that will confirm if people already had been infected, along with confirmation of immunity once you get fully through your infection (I mean, I assume that no such test exists). Being able to quickly and conclusively determine that an individual isn’t a risk of becoming sick or being a carrier would go a long ways towards moving us forward.

Serological tests that show antibodies (and therefore whether you have been infected and recovered) do exist. They aren’t widespread yet, but I’m pretty sure testing is starting to roll out in Europe.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:29:08pm

re: #145 klys (maker of Silmarils)

New York City’s 2,449 ICU beds were 84 percent full on Monday, leaving 392 beds open for New Yorkers critically ill with COVID-19 or any other ailment, according to tallies obtained from the state Department of Health.

They’re rapidly trying to surge additional beds and capabilities.

At 2449 for 8.5 million NYers, that works out to about 2.9 per 100,000.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:29:12pm

re: #124 sagehen

Gay New Yorkers and San Franciscans in the 1980’s. This is very familiar to them.

Except that in the ‘80’s, every. single. person. who caught that mysterious new disease died horribly. This is familiar enough to be triggering, I’m sure, but we’re not going to spend the next several years going to funerals.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:30:00pm

re: #128 Mescalero09

I wonder how she got in?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:30:19pm

re: #154 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In fact, the FDA approved a test of this sort yesterday.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:30:40pm

re: #131 Decatur Deb

You Only Fuckup Once.

And government takeover? From what, the government?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:31:17pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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O_o

There’s a compelling argument to be made that Trump is the force majeure, in that his deliberate neglect is the single most exacerbating factor necessitating the very shutdown he’s seeking relief for.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:31:59pm

re: #157 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I wonder how she got in?

My 3yr-old granddaughter got in one at a Chuck-e-Cheeze.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:33:31pm

re: #157 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Ever have a cat?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:34:59pm

re: #155 lawhawk

New York City’s 2,449 ICU beds were 84 percent full on Monday, leaving 392 beds open for New Yorkers critically ill with COVID-19 or any other ailment, according to tallies obtained from the state Department of Health.

They’re rapidly trying to surge additional beds and capabilities.

At 2449 for 8.5 million NYers, that works out to about 2.9 per 100,000.

So better than 2005 but still …there’s a reason Germany is seeing fewer deaths. And is capable of taking in some of the overflow from, say, France.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:35:45pm

re: #157 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I wonder how she got in?

there’s someone walking around the arcade games warehouse calling “bootsie; has anyone seen bootsie?”

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:35:55pm

re: #162 Mescalero09

I like you new icon. :)

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Decatur Deb  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:36:47pm

re: #164 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

there’s someone walking around the arcade games warehouse calling “bootsie; has anyone seen bootsie?”

And a couple lucky kids got home with her sisters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:38:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:39:10pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:39:12pm

re: #153 Mike Lamb

The woman or man that will be the hero is the one that develops a rapid response serum test that will confirm if people already had been infected, along with confirmation of immunity once you get fully through your infection (I mean, I assume that no such test exists). Being able to quickly and conclusively determine that an individual isn’t a risk of becoming sick or being a carrier would go a long ways towards moving us forward.

I was reading an article about that today. Apparently, since there is a fair number of “benign” coronaviruses floating around, it’s hard to find one that will gauge your immunity to this one accurately. The last thing we want is a lot of people who think they’re immune but aren’t running around.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:39:47pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Booting her stupid ass out of the Senate will prove delightful.

Dog help us if the GOP doesn’t pay some political price for this in November…

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Dread Pirate  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:41:02pm

So Trump’s ‘cut in the oil production’ was more of a request than a done deal. More Trump market manipulation.

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lawhawk  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:41:21pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:41:25pm

re: #162 Mescalero09

Ever have a cat?

Sure, but they’re generally not good at getting into completely sealed packages, and those games always looked pretty well sealed to me.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:42:22pm

re: #165 PhillyPretzel

It’s where Good and Plenty was originally made. Grew up not far from there. 6th Street southbound trolley. Goldenbergs Dark Chocolate Peanut Chews was another local hit. Still eat them.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:43:18pm

re: #173 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Sure, but they’re generally not good at getting into completely sealed packages, and those games always looked pretty well sealed to me.

Not totally sealed. Double drop door to get your prize out. Easy for a cat.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:43:28pm

re: #171 Dread Pirate

And I just checked Kitco and the spot price for crude has gone up to $24.95. It will probably go up higher.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:44:00pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

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and still managed to become a senator

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KingKenrod  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:45:09pm

re: #171 Dread Pirate

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So Trump’s ‘cut in the oil production’ was more of a request than a done deal. More Trump market manipulation.

“My friend” MBS. We can’t rid of this orange turd fast enough.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:45:37pm

re: #177 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

and still managed to become a senator

fascinating strategy Cotton let’s see if it pays off

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Decatur Deb  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:46:02pm

re: #178 KingKenrod

“My friend” MBS. We can’t rid of this orange turd fast enough.

Ya’ gotta give MBS a hand.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:46:23pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:46:36pm

re: #174 Mescalero09

It’s where Good and Plenty was originally made. Grew up not far from there. 6th Street southbound trolley. Goldenbergs Dark Chocolate Peanut Chews was another local hit. Still eat them.

once upon a time there was an engineer….

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:47:25pm
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Sir John Barron  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:47:55pm

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

but amazingly the dumbhead in the oval office still has employment

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:48:24pm

They still make these in North Philly. Best ever Easter eggs.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:49:26pm

re: #185 Mescalero09

What’s the filling on those? They look really tasty.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:50:28pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:50:55pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:51:20pm

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

Anyone who says the Republicans are the strongest supporters of the military needs to sit down and shut the fuck up.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:51:57pm

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

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they see leadership as insubordination

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teleskiguy  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:52:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:52:18pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:52:25pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

*cocks gun*

Stay away, motherfucker! At least six feet back or I blow your damn head off!

//

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:52:34pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

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Damn

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:54:40pm

re: #182 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

once upon a time there was an engineer….

1950s *Good & Plenty* Candy Commercial

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:55:12pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

From the article:

Forty members of TSCAR, WYDOT, and the Jackson Hole Mountain Resort ski patrol returned to the site Thursday morning. At 11 a.m., a dog had a positive hit on the victim, and rescuers dug the victim out.

Seconding the STAY HOME.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:56:01pm

We have an acting naval Secretary right? I’m usually really good at knowing cabinet members and important agencies and sub departments but this administration plays shuffle so often.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:57:28pm

re: #186 klys (maker of Silmarils)

What’s the filling on those? They look really tasty.

Thick dark chocolate with cruchies in it and the filling is rich thick coconut.
I eat one or two boxes, as that’s the only time they are in my stores.
You like dark chocolate and coconut, this is what you want.

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William Lewis  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:57:48pm

re: #172 lawhawk

He knew that he would be the scapegoat but he did it anyway. That is a leader who cares for his personnel.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:58:12pm

re: #171 Dread Pirate

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So Trump’s ‘cut in the oil production’ was more of a request than a done deal. More Trump market manipulation.

Wait…I thought low gas prices acted as a tax cut for the middle class. What does he want here?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:58:25pm

indeed

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:58:43pm

Evening Lizardim from the wild north country. We added two more deaths and 53 new cases, marking 11 straight days of approximately constant (50-70) new cases per day, at a fairly constant rate of 1500-2000 tested per day (variance because we are fully caught up on backlogs and are processing them as they come in). I think we’re actually doing the thing here. How go things out there among the lizardfolk?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 1:59:16pm

jfc

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John Hughes  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:01:22pm

Getting pissed about how nice random parts of his house look.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:01:30pm

re: #200 Mike Lamb

Wait…I thought low gas prices acted as a tax cut for the middle class. What does he want here?

what day is it

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:01:45pm
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John Hughes  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:04:46pm

re: #2 Belafon

The thing about the Abbot test is that it takes 15 minutes — to test one person.

Pretty much useless for major hospitals in built up areas.

In fact sending it out to small hospitals/clinics in rural areas is not completely dumb.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:04:47pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

jfc

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Yeah where is this man who is 89 years old and is the right’s go to anti-Semitic dog whistle? Chuck should have stuck to game shows.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:04:54pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cool, resonance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:05:25pm

meanwhile in Idaho

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Mike Lamb  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:05:51pm

re: #205 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

what day is it

I know where you are going with this, but hasn’t it been the same day for 3 months now?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:05:53pm

re: #172 lawhawk

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We can rehabilitate and reward him when this is over and Cheeto goes down. I would suggest dipping into property confiscated from the Russian-incited genocide propagandists who spread denial and conspira-lies. Plain gougers and hoarders should also be relieved of their loot, to the benefit of all.
We need to learn something from the failure to institute “40 acres and a mule” back in 1865.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:06:11pm

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

A ship’s captain’s job will always include being the fall guy. It’s part of the position.

That said, Trump is so bad that he’s corrupted the chain of command. See the war crimes Trump tried to wipe away, and let the criminals free.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:06:13pm

re: #202 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim from the wild north country. We added two more deaths and 53 new cases, marking 11 straight days of approximately constant (50-70) new cases per day, at a fairly constant rate of 1500-2000 tested per day (variance because we are fully caught up on backlogs and are processing them as they come in). I think we’re actually doing the thing here. How go things out there among the lizardfolk?

My county has updated the page so I have more data to play with! Still waiting on today’s numbers but I can say there are ~150 tests pending in the county. Our positive rate has been ~11.5% with the average turnaround time of 2.5 days.

Also, there are currently 118 ICU beds in use in the county, of which 90 are occupied by COVID-19 patients. The good news is 66% of the ventilators in the county are currently available!

Speaking on that gender split discussed earlier this morning, 53% of the cases diagnosed in the county are male but so are 75% of the deaths. This continues the pattern seen elsewhere.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:07:11pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:07:36pm

re: #214 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The state has been adding additional data every 2-3 days - they now have hospitalizations, ICU usage, and people who no longer require isolation, along with demographics.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:08:01pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s another LEO “guy” you hope never pulls you over in broad daylight, let alone late night back road.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:10:33pm

re: #217 Mescalero09

There’s another LEO “guy” you hope never pulls you over in broad daylight, let alone late night back road.

One of the so called constitutional sheriffs I think. I wiki’ed it but Bonner county borders two other states- Washington and Montana.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:10:54pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:10:56pm

Fox News is booming in the ratings. Now Baier is getting over six million viewers, the other shows often get five million plus.

America is not so good at this truth thing.

We really are suffering a worldview collapse. The Americans, and there a sizable number of them, who grew up on old-time religion are not going to abandon their patriarchal, bigoted ways.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:11:02pm

re: #207 John Hughes

The thing about the Abbot test is that it takes 15 minutes — to test one person.

Pretty much useless for major hospitals in built up areas.

In fact sending it out to small hospitals/clinics in rural areas is not completely dumb.

Current turnaround time for tests in my built up area is 2.5 days. I’m failing to see how a 15 minute test that can be done within the hospital would be useless.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:11:53pm

re: #208 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah where is this man who is 89 years old and is the right’s go to anti-Semitic dog whistle? Chuck should have stuck to game shows.

not so much

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:11:55pm

re: #214 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My county has updated the page so I have more data to play with! Still waiting on today’s numbers but I can say there are ~150 tests pending in the county. Our positive rate has been ~11.5% with the average turnaround time of 2.5 days.

Also, there are currently 118 ICU beds in use in the county, of which 90 are occupied by COVID-19 patients. The good news is 66% of the ventilators in the county are currently available!

Speaking on that gender split discussed earlier this morning, 53% of the cases diagnosed in the county are male but so are 75% of the deaths. This continues the pattern seen elsewhere.

I’ve been following the Italian news, as you know, and it seems that as time goes by, the average age of fatalities is dropping, and the sex ratio is also getting closer. Maybe younger people and women just take longer to succumb. I’ll keep checking those reports.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:12:14pm

re: #218 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

One of the so called constitutional sheriffs I think. I wiki’ed it but Bonner county borders two other states- Washington and Montana.

One of the off his fucking rocker armed guy with a shield and a ride and no witnesses.

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John Hughes  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:12:58pm

re: #34 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

paper checks could take as long as 20 weeks — nearly 5 months — for some Americans

Gosh, I wonder which ones.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:13:26pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in Idaho

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when was the constitution ‘un-instated’? de-instated?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:13:46pm

re: #221 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Here is an article from my local PBS station WHYY:
whyy.org

They are working on a 15 minute at home test.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:14:40pm

re: #211 Mike Lamb

I know where you are going with this, but hasn’t it been the same day for 3 months now?

he has no consistent ‘message’
today doesnt have to equal yesterday or even an hour ago
it’s all just shoot from the hip

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:14:40pm

re: #223 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I’ve been following the Italian news, as you know, and it seems that as time goes by, the average age of fatalities is dropping, and the sex ratio is also getting closer. Maybe younger people and women just take longer to succumb. I’ll keep checking those reports.

I don’t expect it to stay at 75/25, for sure, but in China there was a small but persistent lean towards male being a risk factor.

Now, there are quite a number of potential OTHER components that would need to be teased out to say that being male is 100% the cause of this versus, say, higher rates of tobacco use or high blood pressure or whatever.

But in the meantime I do all the errands, being the younger and female half of this household.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:15:02pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:16:53pm

HOLY CRAP
France has reported 1,355 new deaths so far today, including 884 fatalities in nursing homes
reuters.com

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:17:54pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:18:10pm

re: #227 PhillyPretzel

Here is an article from my local PBS station WHYY:
whyy.org

They are working on a 15 minute at home test.

That one is a diagnostic test (do you have it right now) and not a serological test (have you had it in the past) but that would be a good thing to have too! My main concern (and the article doesn’t really clarify) is how would the sample be obtained. The swabbing is …I think very difficult for people to do properly themselves.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:18:43pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in Idaho

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Fundanutalists are going full Jonestown. I would say “good riddance,” especially since this a big part of the GOP base, but they are going to take a hell of a lot of innocent, or at least un-involved, people with them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:18:44pm

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

SecNav says that his message to naval commanders is: don’t hesitate to report problems but do it within chain of command. I’m not sure this is the message they are going to take away from handling of Roosevelt CO

Narrator: It’s not the message they are going to take away.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:19:43pm

re: #231 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

HOLY CRAP
France has reported 1,355 new deaths so far today, including 884 fatalities in nursing homes
reuters.com

Most of the world is heading into peak outbreak. There will be more reports like this. It will suck. But we’ve got to keep pushing. With any luck in about two or three weeks we’ll see some more encouraging data.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:20:00pm

re: #231 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

We’ve been in the beginning of the pandemic. As we enter the main part of the first wave, where deaths by the thousands will be reported from around the world, we will see how bad this is.

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:21:15pm

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

At my job, if you can’t go to your manager, you can go to others, or go up, and you can skip as many steps as you need to. His letter wasn’t meant to be released from what I understand, but ultimately the American people are at the top of that chain of command.

It’ll cost him his job, but I could see someone who could run the VA or something like that in the next administration.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:21:39pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:22:15pm

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why are they assuming that he leaked the letter?

What is the fucking use of that assumption?

Aircraft carrier captain chairs are hands down the most coveted and competitive assignments in the US Navy, and they’re further limited by congressional statute to career aviators and flight officers. So the place I’d start looking for culprits is the short list of replacements who had access to his letter.

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John Hughes  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:22:16pm

re: #51 The Pie Overlord!

In France they’ve just requisitioned one of the refrigerated warehouses at the Rungis MIN (Marché d’Intérêt National) for storing bodies. Rungis is the enormous market where Paris and most of the north/north east of France gets its meat, fish, vegetables and fruit.

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:22:25pm

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Navy’s public profile of the Captain shows he’s got close to 30 years invested, so his career is effectively over. They’re likely going to give him the choice of quietly retiring at his current rank or busting him down and kicking his ass out, the message being that they’re willing to let him walk away if he doesn’t further the embarrassment of his superiors and the Navy as a whole.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:22:35pm

re: #229 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t expect it to stay at 75/25, for sure, but in China there was a small but persistent lean towards male being a risk factor.

Now, there are quite a number of potential OTHER components that would need to be teased out to say that being male is 100% the cause of this versus, say, higher rates of tobacco use or high blood pressure or whatever.

But in the meantime I do all the errands, being the younger and female half of this household.

I was definitely thinking of smoking for Hubei, but the age group with lots of smokers in Italy is much younger.

(I do all the errands, being both halves of this household. Also, too, just ordered more of the varieties of coffee they’re not giving to the stores. Once it arrives, I’ll have about twelve weeks’ supply. I’m expecting the shelter in place order to at least be significantly modified by then.)

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gwangung  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:23:03pm

re: #221 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Current turnaround time for tests in my built up area is 2.5 days. I’m failing to see how a 15 minute test that can be done within the hospital would be useless.

Or installing multiple Abbot testers in one hospital would be bad…

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:23:20pm

re: #240 goddamnedfrank

They don’t want real answers.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:23:51pm

Suddenly I’m happy I’ve never smoked, drank much or done many drugs.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:24:19pm

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

Most of the world is heading into peak outbreak. There will be more reports like this. It will suck. But we’ve got to keep pushing. With any luck in about two or three weeks we’ll see some more encouraging data.

re: #237 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We’ve been in the beginning of the pandemic. As we enter the main part of the first wave, where deaths by the thousands will be reported from around the world, we will see how bad this is.

Today’s reported deaths in France is <160% higher than their previous high, of 509 yesterday

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:24:35pm

re: #245 jaunte

They don’t want real answers.

Exactly. Blaming the Captain is a neat and tidy way to quickly address the problem and make it go away.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:24:50pm

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

Same here. I will admit though I did finish the Thin Mint cookies.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:25:11pm

re: #247 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Today’s reported deaths in France is <160% higher than their previous high, of 509 yesterday

There are bound to be day to day variances due to a variety of factors. But the days ahead should certainly prove telling.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:25:57pm

re: #249 PhillyPretzel

Same here. I will admit though I did finish the Thin Mint cookies.

LOL. Some vices are non-negotiable. You’ll pry my chocolate from my cold dead hands if necessary.

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Semper Fi  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:26:59pm

re: #249 PhillyPretzel

Same here. I will admit though I did finish the Thin Mint cookies.

That’s okay, after all they are ‘thin’ mints.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:27:46pm

re: #249 PhillyPretzel

Same here. I will admit though I did finish the Thin Mint cookies.

Keep in mind you can order more online and continue to support Girl Scouts, who are much better at being inclusive than that other organization.

Signed, a lifetime member.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:27:50pm

re: #249 PhillyPretzel

Same here. I will admit though I did finish the Thin Mint cookies.

Not yet associated with higher coronavirus risk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:27:59pm

re: #240 goddamnedfrank

Why are they assuming that he leaked the letter?

What is the fucking use of that assumption?

Aircraft carrier captain chairs are hands down the most coveted and competitive assignments in the US Navy, and they’re further limited by congressional statute to career aviators and flight officers. So the place I’d start looking for culprits is the short list of replacements who had access to his letter.

my understanding is that he did NOT leak it.

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:28:46pm

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

Exactly. Blaming the Captain is a neat and tidy way to quickly address the problem and make it go away.

Well, it’s not really much of a jump, as his name is on the letter and I doubt he’s denied authorship of it. If he had, the Navy wouldn’t be so quick to shit-can his ass. The question of who leaked it to the press is likely being investigated as we speak, but the immediate concern is that if they don’t nip this in the bud now, others in command of ships and/or units may decide to start speaking up publicly as well.

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:29:14pm

The daily Thank You Mr. President ritual has begun.

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John Hughes  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:30:05pm

re: #112 William Lewis

This is a direct inheritance from our Jewish beginnings

Oh, just fuck off. You don’t have any fucking “Jewish beginnings”.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:30:19pm

re: #257 jaunte

The daily Thank You Mr. President ritual has begun.

More like “Fuck You, Mr. President*”.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:30:30pm

re: #221 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Current turnaround time for tests in my built up area is 2.5 days. I’m failing to see how a 15 minute test that can be done within the hospital would be useless.

They would be useful for testing healthcare workers and getting them back to the front lines asap. They’re not very useful yet for bulk testing because the overall throughput sucks ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:30:41pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:32:59pm

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

Suddenly I’m happy I’ve never smoked, drank much or done many drugs.

Sleeper:

Miles Monroe: Where am I anyhow, I mean, what happened to everybody, where are all my friends?

Dr. Aragon: You must understand that everyone you knew in the past has been dead nearly two hundred years.

Miles Monroe: But they all ate organic rice!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:34:15pm

Via ABC - In a press conference Thursday, Gov. Reeves explained why he has classified gun stores as essential businesses in the state of Mississippi.

“I think when you see what’s going in the entire country, the fact that we have a constitutional right, a second amendment right to bear arms, most every governor, republican and democrat alike, have worked to keep those shops open,” Gov. Reeves said.

He would continue, saying that he has seen the number of firearms being sold go up significantly in the month of March.

In fact, Americans purchased two million guns last month alone, the second highest month for gun sales ever, according to The New York Times.

Retailers say the buying frenzy is fueled by those who are worried that people will becoming increasingly desperate and unpredictable in the midst of the pandemic.

While gun stores shall remain open, Reeves said he hopes the owners of the stores will heed the call and abide by social distancing guidelines.

I really hate this damn Governor of mine.

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:34:24pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:34:29pm

If they are approved for & elect to enter program ~$1,600 a month while they wait. attached to the local Recruiting battalion, subject to UCMJ
Those ineligible, or opt out may be able to receive a cash bonus once they are are able to ship to their training base.

So yeah, it’s gonna be a cluster fuck

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stpaulbear  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:36:11pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Trump Org. is going to start a Go Fund Me page. They would make millions from the rubes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:36:13pm

re: #264 jaunte

That’s a great take. He’s using the News Briefings to replace the MAGA rallies he can’t do right now.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:36:52pm

re: #195 Mescalero09

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Good’N’Plenty and Good N’Fruity…yes I did play Choo Choo Charlie with those boxes when I was a kid!

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:37:05pm

re: #263 Eclectic Cyborg

Via ABC - In a press conference Thursday, Gov. Reeves explained why he has classified gun stores as essential businesses in the state of Mississippi.

“I think when you see what’s going in the entire country, the fact that we have a constitutional right, a second amendment right to bear arms, most every governor, republican and democrat alike, have worked to keep those shops open,” Gov. Reeves said.

He would continue, saying that he has seen the number of firearms being sold go up significantly in the month of March.

In fact, Americans purchased two million guns last month alone, the second highest month for gun sales ever, according to The New York Times.

Retailers say the buying frenzy is fueled by those who are worried that people will becoming increasingly desperate and unpredictable in the midst of the pandemic.

While gun stores shall remain open, Reeves said he hopes the owners of the stores will heed the call and abide by social distancing guidelines.

I really hate this damn Governor of mine.

want desantis? it’s not far

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:37:13pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:37:59pm

Ivanka needed time to get the product line set up. Half /

Reality is that we’ve never had sufficient supply in the States for everyone to start wearing masks at once, because nobody has stocked to that level because before this nobody wore them. And now, it’s still about getting the most effective masks into the hands of people who need them - the healthcare workers on the front lines.

We’ve got a very small stash of surgical masks here, from flying home after his flu diagnosis in December. But my mom is making some cloth masks to mail out here, so soon we’ll be able to wear stuff while running errands. (I’m saving the surgical masks for if they’re really needed.)

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Teddy's Person  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:38:02pm

re: #266 stpaulbear

The Trump Org. is going to start a Go Fund Me page. They would make millions from the rubes.

I read your comment as “they woudl make millions of rubles.”

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:38:05pm

re: #268 Joe Bacon 🌹

Good’N’Plenty and Good N’Fruity…yes I did play Choo Choo Charlie with those boxes when I was a kid!

(still do)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:38:06pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:38:54pm

re: #263 Eclectic Cyborg

These fucking clowns.

Listen, if any of you need a gun I’ve got plenty, and you can hit me up in eighteen months after we’ve all been vaccinated.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:40:18pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

jfc

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Nice to see Chuck let his Antisemitism out of the closet!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:40:21pm

re: #271 klys (maker of Silmarils)

As noted by just about everybody, in Japan wearing masks was not uncommon before this pandemic. When I lived there I never wore a mask, but I was never really sick. The Japanese wear masks when they are ill, to not give it to others. Recently of course that now is more universal.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:41:36pm

Basically, they don’t know what they died of, as there is relatively little testing occurring

Edit: Damn it all

wrong link

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:42:49pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:43:14pm

re: #277 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As noted by just about everybody, in Japan wearing masks was not uncommon before this pandemic. When I lived there I never wore a mask, but I was never really sick. The Japanese wear masks when they are ill, to not give it to others. Recently of course that now is more universal.

That’s why we had the masks for flying home - we were the ill parties, doing our best to protect others.

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EPR-radar  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:46:14pm

re: #270 gocart mozart

The GOP agreed to ‘live and let live’ with respect to confronting racism etc. in the compromise of 1877.

Nearly a century later, the GOP became the party of racism in the civil rights realignment.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:46:21pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:47:49pm

re: #281 EPR-radar

The GOP agreed to ‘live and let live’ with respect to confronting racism etc. in the compromise of 1877.

Nearly a century later, the GOP became the party of racism in the civil rights realignment. “anything to retain power”

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John Hughes  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:50:40pm

re: #137 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Mulhouse.

Almost every case in France (which includes French Guyana, in the fucking Amazonian jungle) is linked to one evangelical meeting in Mulhouse.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:51:25pm

re: #283 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

in fact, from the atlantic:

“Should Joe Biden defeat Trump in November, he will likely face the challenge of helping the nation recover from another economic catastrophe against similarly implacable GOP opposition. The Republican Party will rediscover its concern for debt once there is no longer a Republican in the White House. The more ideologically diverse Democratic caucus will be vulnerable to splintering and half measures.”

“The crucial obstacle to necessary intervention under such circumstances will not be traditional divides over the role of the state or the size of government. It will be, as it has been for more than a decade, the Republican belief that no one else should be allowed to wield power.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:54:19pm

re: #278 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Basically, they don’t know what they died of, as there is relatively little testing occurring

Edit: Damn it all

wrong link

Found it again

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:54:31pm

Echos of the Great Depression:

With milk prices plunging to lows that haven’t been seen in nearly four years, dairy cooperatives are dumping the product to reduce oversupply.

While shoppers are clearing out milk cases at grocery stores, that’s not making up for the closings of restaurants and schools. U.S. cows are entering their most productive time of the year right now as coronavirus is killing off a significant tap for demand. While some dumping usually occurs during the U.S. spring, this year it will be “even more aggressive,” said Alyssa Badger, director of operations at HighGround Dairy in Chicago.

bloomberg.com

Happening here in upstate NY.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:55:21pm

this is why you use the dpa

With the coronavirus outbreak creating an unprecedented demand for medical supplies and equipment, New York state has paid 20 cents for gloves that normally cost less than a nickel and as much as $7.50 each for masks, about 15 times the usual price. It’s paid up to $2,795 for infusion pumps, more than twice the regular rate. And $248,841 for a portable X-ray machine that typically sells for $30,000 to $80,000.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:57:55pm

Trumps rally has decayed into a bitchfest of witch hunts.

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lizardofid  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:59:21pm

re: #287 Shropshire Slasher

Echos of the Great Depression:

bloomberg.com

Happening here in upstate NY.

Make cheese!

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:59:44pm
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Amory Blaine  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:59:45pm

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

Suddenly I’m happy I’ve never smoked, drank much or done many drugs.

I’m high right now. :D

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Teddy's Person  Apr 2, 2020 • 2:59:47pm

Trump at his two minutes of hate today talked about his c-virus test today like everyone can get tested as easily as he did. He said, I took it and went to work.

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:01:16pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:01:24pm

re: #291 jaunte

But what if we have a rally and Trump gets to mock Lisa Page and Peter Stzrok’s sexual affair? Oh and we’ll even bring back the wall chant that he loves.

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John Hughes  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:01:36pm

re: #178 KingKenrod

“My friend” MBS. We can’t rid of this orange turd fast enough.

Hey, he’s a useful guy to know if you want a carcass de-boned.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:02:10pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:02:15pm

Say what you will, but, firing TR’s Captain sure took everyone’s attention off of those 10,000,000 people that lost their jobs in the last two weeks

//

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:02:33pm

re: #294 jaunte

We have been losing he’s right. But we’ve been losing the idea that we’re a world leader every time he opens his fat mouth or tweets.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:03:33pm

I mean really, does he HAVE to do these bullshit briefings every day? Wouldn’t every other day be sufficient enough? Or hell, even fewer than that?

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:03:35pm

re: #299 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We need a leader and we’ve got “catch me if you can.”

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Amory Blaine  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:03:36pm

re: #258 John Hughes

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:04:51pm

“Wherever two or more of you are gathered in my name…you’re fucking potential vector so scram and pray at home.”

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:05:11pm

Why does he have to leave for a brief meeting on this show and then come back?

And now we hear that Jared will be on the show later.

🧐

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:05:44pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:05:58pm

So Jared is there and not Dr. Fauci.

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retired cynic  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:06:43pm

Illinois Coronavirus stats
Wednesday 4/1 40,384 tested (5159 new), 6980 positive (986 new), 141 deaths (42 new)
Thursday 4/2 43,656 tested (3272 new), 7695 positive (715 new), 157 deaths, (16 new)

I think Wednesday was a catch up day…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:06:44pm
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John Hughes  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:07:49pm

re: #221 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Current turnaround time for tests in my built up area is 2.5 days. I’m failing to see how a 15 minute test that can be done within the hospital would be useless.

Yes, but that test is for multiple people, in that 2.5 day period they’ll have run multiple batches of 25-100 samples.

Difference between throughput and response time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:07:53pm

sure, Jan

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:08:37pm

O_o

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:09:05pm

Sixty-three new cases today is at least not an increase in # of new cases from yesterday? But 4 new deaths; not surprising to see those ramping up, unfortunately, as people finally lose the battle.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:09:14pm

Future historians will find that no other administration in the history of the US said so little with so many words.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:09:18pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’d rather have them in our country than Matt Gaetz.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:09:30pm
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Amory Blaine  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:09:49pm

My wife found out like Monday that she lost her DL. In wi you can request 1 replacement by mail so I did it ($15). They emailed a faximile of her license with a pic that can be used for voting. Lo and behold the replacement showed up today so I took a pick of it and sent it in for absentee ballot for the deadline TODAY. (I’ve since learned they pushed the D L back but we’re ready to vote). They also have drive through voting by City Hall going on 7 days a week.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:11:21pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:11:36pm

re: #271 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Ivanka needed time to get the product line set up. Half /

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Reality is that we’ve never had sufficient supply in the States for everyone to start wearing masks at once, because nobody has stocked to that level because before this nobody wore them. And now, it’s still about getting the most effective masks into the hands of people who need them - the healthcare workers on the front lines.

We’ve got a very small stash of surgical masks here, from flying home after his flu diagnosis in December. But my mom is making some cloth masks to mail out here, so soon we’ll be able to wear stuff while running errands. (I’m saving the surgical masks for if they’re really needed.)

I’m just pulling a scarf over my nose and mouth when I go into a store or something. The purpose is to keep yourself from exhaling (or coughing) virus, and that should work well enough. Along with social distancing.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:13:09pm

re: #309 John Hughes

Yes, but that test is for multiple people, in that 2.5 day period they’ll have run multiple batches of 25-100 samples.

Difference between throughput and response time.

And that difference doesn’t matter as much if it means you can avoid having to treat a patient as presumptive positive when they’re, in fact, not. That’s a lot of PPE that could be saved for the cases where it is actually needed. Or healthcare workers you can get back on the job.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:13:16pm

re: #317 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Hugh Laurie would make a better head than Jared.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:13:41pm

re: #313 Teddy’s Person

Future historians will find that no other administration in the history of the US said so little with so many words.

You know, President Harrison, who was of course the shortest served President. I don’t know if many people remember this bit of history but he also gave the longest inaugural speech in history. I don’t know a word from that speech. And Harrison of course was dead a month later. I don’t know what happens to Trump in the end but history will not be kind to him. Few are going to look back nostalgic for Donald Trump. We will have reminded people what presidents are supposed to be again.

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John Hughes  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:14:18pm

re: #288 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Meanwhile, US agents in China are buying up consignments of PPE on the airfield for cash, more or less stealing stuff already bought by other countries.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:14:34pm
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makeitstop  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:17:43pm

Jared’s trying to use every meaningless business cliche in existence.

Waiting for ‘synergy.’

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:18:26pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:18:44pm

OK, I fully endorse the use of #ClusterTrump

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:19:42pm

Fuck this year

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John Hughes  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:20:14pm

re: #302 Amory Blaine

Where’s the crucifix? I was talking about the absurd claim that Catholicism had, in any real sense “Jewish roots”.

Yeah, a religion that has been in oppressive power over large parts of the world for over a thousand years really puts a lot of work into private prayer in times of troubles. Talk about dressing yourself up in the skin of your victims. Christianity, the Ed Gein of religions.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:22:36pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:22:48pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:24:44pm

re: #327 goddamnedfrank

Fuck this year

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First E3, now this. I’m already hearing rumors that CD Projekt Red’s about to announce a similar delay for Cyberpunk 2077. This year’s a mixed blessing for the games industry: They’ve got a convenient excuse for any delays, but if they don’t have any money-makers out there right now then they’re going to be hurting by year’s end.

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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:25:10pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:25:57pm

re: #330 Charles Johnson

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We’ve got levels of chutzpah the likes of which even God has never seen.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:28:29pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gas mask wearing moron says what?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:28:48pm

Finally decanted and strained the kind tincture I started brewing the first week of January. It’s good, three months ago it probably would have sent me flying but I’m going to aim for at least double strength on the next batch because the constant insane bullshit levels have upped my tolerance.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:29:02pm

Is it really that fucking hard not to be an asshole to people?

(Don’t answer that.)

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Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:29:10pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:30:08pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:31:01pm

re: #330 Charles Johnson

The year is 2063, at the Trump Presidential library a ten year old boy is reading this letter. His father his standing close by.

“Dad, what the hell were you guys thinking electing him?”

“Well you see son, it all started with Fox News…”

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stpaulbear  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:31:33pm

re: #336 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Is it really that fucking hard not to be an asshole to people?

(Don’t answer that.)

There is going to come a day where someone he’s fucked over punches him with intent to hurt him badly. That will be a moment of joy for the entire world.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:31:40pm

re: #331 Targetpractice

First E3, now this. I’m already hearing rumors that CD Projekt Red’s about to announce a similar delay for Cyberpunk 2077. This year’s a mixed blessing for the games industry: They’ve got a convenient excuse for any delays, but if they don’t have any money-makers out there right now then they’re going to be hurting by year’s end.

Cyberpunk 2077 has already been rescheduled. I had to rebuy the prerelease.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:31:49pm

re: #336 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Is it really that fucking hard not to be an asshole to people?

(Don’t answer that.)

For most of us? No.

(sorry, I broke the rule. :P )

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:32:15pm

re: #341 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Cyberpunk 2077 has already been rescheduled. I had to rebuy the prerelease.

The Last of Us II has also been kicked down the road.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:32:30pm
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makeitstop  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:36:55pm

Jared sounds like Woody Allen.

I preferred the Gilbert Gottfried version, personally.

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:37:21pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:39:51pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:41:20pm

If Biden becomes the next President he should give Capt. Crozier a fucking medal.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:41:39pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:42:10pm

re: #347 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Why would anyone believe that infographic?

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BeachDem  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:43:44pm

re: #324 makeitstop

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Jared’s trying to use every meaningless business cliche in existence.

Waiting for ‘synergy.’

and paradigm shift—another favorite. (maybe he’ll work in architecting, to please wifey)

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Amory Blaine  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:46:58pm

re: #348 Eclectic Cyborg

VrDo4bEHyMzmRaSkqwvbYvZKl8YebfRGKOwMf0HIEAiQN/dVodZIy2lo3SWVb2JsWvFfHLZXw+IYF5KoLUgQmDrBcrBS6szd

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:47:32pm

Sure, why the fuck not

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:48:24pm
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Amory Blaine  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:48:28pm

re: #353 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Is it waiting for the virus to pass?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:48:30pm

re: #353 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

That does not look good. :(

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:50:17pm

re: #352 Amory Blaine

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:50:43pm

re: #324 makeitstop

“If you turn it just so…..in the right light it does not appear to be the piece of shit it truly is.”
My work is done.

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:50:45pm

Thread on Acting SecNav Modly’s presser over Cpt. Crozier being relieved:

Basically, they’re accusing Crozier of “lack of judgment” and “going outside the chain of command.” Modly’s insisting that the Navy had everything under control and is insinuating that Crozier wasn’t being honest with them how serious the situation aboard ship was.

tl;dr, the Navy’s embarrassed and is taking it out on Crozier because his cry for help has caused a publicity nightmare. Given events with Gallagher last year, there’s probably the fear that Donny will retaliate if he feels that the Navy isn’t doing enough to shift the blame.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:52:53pm

re: #355 Amory Blaine

Is it waiting for the virus to pass?

I’m hoping it’s waiting for #ClusterTrump to go golfing

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Amory Blaine  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:54:06pm

re: #327 goddamnedfrank

Fuck this year

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:54:16pm

re: #349 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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If this were a Red Dawn scenario, Donny would be whining that the individual states aren’t doing enough to build their own armies and that the Armed Forces are only supposed to be there as a “last resort.”

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:54:38pm

re: #353 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Later today…………………………..
“Unfamiliar meteor sighted, trajectory not certain, but could come close to Earth orbit.”

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:57:07pm

re: #354 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Trump pandering to the rural or rural-wanabee f*ckwits who scream about an evasive government at every shadow they see are costing us thousands of lives.

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plansbandc  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:58:29pm

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:59:43pm

JFC take the wheel

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Amory Blaine  Apr 2, 2020 • 3:59:44pm

Tonight is my Friday thank dog. I’ve had to deal with so many memos and directives, each one contradicting the prior one, so exhausting.

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2020 • 4:01:22pm

Suggestion to blue state govs: Publicly announce that, since the WH feels that responsibility for dealing with a national crisis is theirs alone and the Feds have no reason to be involved, then they’ll be withholding taxes normally paid by the states to the Feds to pay for their own healthcare needs. That doing so will, if nothing else, keep the Feds from outbidding them for medical supplies/equipment with their own tax dollars.

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plansbandc  Apr 2, 2020 • 4:01:39pm

re: #346 Targetpractice

In the upside down, that is how everything works.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Apr 2, 2020 • 4:03:34pm

Imagine any of this happening if a Dem were president.
*republicans would be openingly mocking their social distancing, they would organize freaking rallies

* evangelicals would be saying this was God enacting vengeance

* no republican would vote for an emergency relief package

* comparisons to the flu would be even more rampant with a dollar per death clock in the lower right had corner of FoxNews.

* but less people would die because we would have a competent and functioning government

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jaunte  Apr 2, 2020 • 4:54:05pm

This is the dumbest timeline ever.

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Belafon  Apr 2, 2020 • 5:04:57pm

re: #328 John Hughes

Where’s the crucifix? I was talking about the absurd claim that Catholicism had, in any real sense “Jewish roots”.

Yeah, a religion that has been in oppressive power over large parts of the world for over a thousand years really puts a lot of work into private prayer in times of troubles. Talk about dressing yourself up in the skin of your victims. Christianity, the Ed Gein of religions.

Considering William didn’t go there, you probably shouldn’t either.

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sagehen  Apr 2, 2020 • 5:07:27pm

re: #351 BeachDem

and paradigm shift—another favorite. (maybe he’ll work in architecting, to please wifey)

He likes to think of himself as a techie. So “move fast and break things” would be on-brand.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 2, 2020 • 5:26:47pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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dnlS  Apr 2, 2020 • 9:13:57pm

re: #133 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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