The Amazing Punch Brothers: “Church Street Blues”

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Punch Brothers perform “Church Street Blues,” from the album, ‘Hell on Church Street,’ out January 14 on Nonesuch Records. Pre-order at smarturl.it

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retired cynic  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:37:07pm

They never do anything poorly, never sound bad.

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austin_blue  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:41:26pm

CL’d.

re: #38 Charles Johnson

An even larger issue is that Apple aggressively grandfathers their older machines. I’d happily upgrade to the latest Mac OS but my Mac Pro is too old. It still runs great, and this was not a cheap box.

There are hack solutions that would let me use a more recent Mac OS, which tells me that Apple could continue to support their older hardware, they just choose not to bother with it. Which sucks.

Quite the modern nuance in “Designed Obsolescence” isn’t it?

I had a 2012 iMac 27” box. Loved it. It blew out a graphics card in 2016 (replaced) and then again in 2020. Apple didn’t support the Graphics tech anymore. It’s a pile of junk sitting over in the corner of my office.

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Dangerman  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:42:10pm

re: #84 No Malarkey!

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We should not have to parse things this carefully

And then still be guessing

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Dangerman  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:44:24pm
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austin_blue  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:45:31pm

re: #1 retired cynic

They never do anything poorly, never sound bad.

Is it just me, or is anyone else tired of just how fantastically excellent they are?

Ok, just me, then.

For musicians (and musician adjacents), that is one humbling band.

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retired cynic  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:45:46pm

re: #2 austin_blue

I had a 24” iMac of about that vintage. Its graphics card was starting to send signals. I got a new 27” 2TB iMac in 2019, and have added some additional RAM to it. Gave the old one to my ‘grandson’ and he is still using it for school work and research and games. The old graphics card is still hanging on, and my new one is in the tender arms of Apple getting a new logic board. One never knows.

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Dangerman  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:45:49pm

I Like this

Hold out for $3.141592653589 trillion! Just so you can run ads about everyone getting a piece of the Pi!

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Dangerman  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:46:09pm
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A Cranky One  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:49:59pm

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austin_blue  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:51:16pm

re: #6 retired cynic

I had a 24” iMac of about that vintage. Its graphics card was starting to send signals. I got a new 27” 2TB iMac in 2019, and have added some additional RAM to it. Gave the old one to my ‘grandson’ and he is still using it for school work and research and games. The old graphics card is still hanging on, and my new one is in the tender arms of Apple getting a new logic board. One never knows.

The problem is I’ve got a fantastic 27” screen and there is not a graphics card that will allow it to work. I’d love to turn it into a streaming device, but thpthpthpthp.

What a waste.

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retired cynic  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:53:29pm

re: #10 austin_blue

That will probably be what takes my hand me down out. I am hoping this one, with new logic board, lasts me the rest of my computing life.

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A Cranky One  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:53:36pm

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 1, 2021 • 7:58:13pm

Tonight’s Bill Maher panel are idiots — and Matt Taibbi is clearly a Russian asset (Bill Maher did challenge Taibbi’s assertions on Russia and Trump). How can these educated people who are “serious” writers be so ignorant about the need for pharmaceutical firms to test medications for safety and effectiveness before releasing them to an unsuspecting public? Oh, wait, they are libertarians. Maybe that’s it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 1, 2021 • 8:00:14pm
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The GOP is a terrorist organization  Oct 1, 2021 • 8:02:23pm

Thread.

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austin_blue  Oct 1, 2021 • 8:02:44pm

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

Tonight’s Bill Maher panel are idiots — and Matt Taibbi is clearly a Russian asset (Bill Maher did challenge Taibbi’s assertions on Russia and Trump). How can these educated people who are “serious” writers be so ignorant about the need for pharmaceutical firms to test medications for safety and effectiveness before releasing them to an unsuspecting public? Oh, wait, they are libertarians. Maybe that’s it.

That’s ALWAYS it.

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William Lewis  Oct 1, 2021 • 8:09:11pm

re: #2 austin_blue

CL’d.

Quite the modern nuance in “Designed Obsolescence” isn’t it?

I had a 2012 iMac 27” box. Loved it. It blew out a graphics card in 2016 (replaced) and then again in 2020. Apple didn’t support the Graphics tech anymore. It’s a pile of junk sitting over in the corner of my office.

Meanwhile I have a dual CPU 1 ghz G4 from 2002 that I rescued. I had to put in a new DVD and bumped the memory to it’s 1.5 gb max but otherwise it runs 10.5 as good as it ever did. It’s still a decent light workstation though usually I only fire it up for the original HALO.

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The GOP is a terrorist organization  Oct 1, 2021 • 8:12:58pm

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

Oh, wait, they are libertarians. Maybe that’s it.

Libertarian is the new idiot.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 1, 2021 • 8:21:31pm
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JOE 🥓  Oct 1, 2021 • 8:25:36pm

I had the original 128K Macintosh and got 6 years of life out of it before it went to MacHeaven. Had the first model Powerbook then jumped to the first iMac that lasted 5 years. Switched over to Intel Macs starting with MacMini and now have the last i7 Mini as a media center. the M1 Mini and MacBookAir. Very impressed with the new iPadMini which runs faster and calculates deeper when it comes to chess.

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retired cynic  Oct 1, 2021 • 8:30:58pm

re: #20 JOE 🥓

We bought a Kaypro five minutes (it seemed like) before the first Macintosh was born. When we wanted to publish a book, we bought a Mac Classic and it did everything except handle the photos, using PageMaker. I have worked up through Mac Minis and Power towers and iMacs, and now have a MacBook Pro I use for several projects and the big 27” iMac I use for publishing. If I could afford to go bigger, I would, but have been an Apple freak since 1992. Also am on my second iPad and my umpteenth iPhone.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 1, 2021 • 8:40:10pm
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JOE 🥓  Oct 1, 2021 • 8:41:58pm

We had ONE IBM PC at work that used MS-DOS and DBase. they also had the dreaded PCjr with the chiclet keyboard using a TV as a monitor. The PCjr was just a piece of junk that hardly did anything.

That’s why I saved my $$$$ to buy the first Mac that came out.

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sagehen  Oct 1, 2021 • 8:45:03pm

re: #22 Dread Pirate Ron

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Is it possible that some of them are hoping to be cointelpro-type infiltrators? Maybe we should spread a rumor that ALL of them are, keep the organization worried about whether they can be trusted.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 1, 2021 • 8:54:00pm

re: #24 sagehen

Is it possible that some of them are hoping to be cointelpro-type infiltrators? Maybe we should spread a rumor that ALL of them are, keep the organization worried about whether they can be trusted.

It strikes me that these emails show the reason that so many insurrectionists were surprised that they did not get support from the Capitol police — they were so confident that the police/military were totally supportive of an effort to keep Trump in office, regardless of the results of the election.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 1, 2021 • 9:00:15pm

Brexit problems.

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gwangung  Oct 1, 2021 • 9:01:32pm

re: #25 Hecuba’s daughter

It strikes me that these emails show the reason that so many insurrectionists were surprised that they did not get support from the Capitol police — they were so confident that the police/military were totally supportive of an effort to keep Trump in office, regardless of the results of the election.

Makes me wonder if things DO come to open war fare, how the police will come down and how many will align with insurrectionists?

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sagehen  Oct 1, 2021 • 9:01:32pm

re: #26 Dread Pirate Ron

Brexit problems.

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And where are the e-bikes manufactured? Is that going to also be a Brexit problem?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 1, 2021 • 9:08:48pm

re: #28 sagehen

And where are the e-bikes manufactured? Is that going to also be a Brexit problem?

Mostly in Europe for them but I’m sure they’ll start buying China products in the interim, but the lorry drivers are the problem right now, they may not get their bikes delivered.

re: #26 Dread Pirate Ron

I actually went shopping on my bike for the first time. I went to Target and locked the bike up in the rack; came back out and it was still there, battery, seat, and all. My next purchase is going to be a rack bag with expanding pannier bags for small shopping trips.

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Belafon  Oct 1, 2021 • 9:51:04pm

A trans girl at an Orlando high school won homecoming queen: m.dailykos.com

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2021 • 9:57:56pm

A healthcare worker at my local hospital died of covid last month. She wasn’t vaccinated. She was 31 years old.

vaildaily.com

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sagehen  Oct 1, 2021 • 9:57:59pm

The Kennedy Center 50th Anniversary/Reopening concert is really good.

pbs.org
hour and a half

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gwangung  Oct 1, 2021 • 10:00:58pm

re: #32 sagehen

The Kennedy Center 50th Anniversary/Reopening concert is really good.

pbs.org
hour and a half

Cool…glad people liked it. Had some acquaintances in the show (and they seemed pretty excited about it).

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 1, 2021 • 10:02:23pm

re: #31 teleskiguy

A healthcare worker at my local hospital died of covid last month. She wasn’t vaccinated. She was 31 years old.

vaildaily.com

A very sad last sentence in the obituary —

In an effort to help prevent other families from having to endure such heartbreak during these tragic times, it is the wish of Meghan’s family for everyone to be vaccinated, so they urge all those who can and haven’t already, to please do so in the name of life, and for the love of your neighbor, 2 Peter 1:6-8.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 1, 2021 • 10:04:53pm

re: #31 teleskiguy

A healthcare worker at my local hospital died of covid last month. She wasn’t vaccinated. She was 31 years old.

vaildaily.com

How stupid do you have to be to be a health care worker who doesn’t understand healthcare? I learned all this stuff in high school biology and anatomy & physiology back in 1972. We really have become an idiocracy.

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teleskiguy  Oct 1, 2021 • 10:09:45pm

I fear it’s going to be quite a tragic winter, with the healthcare system all but collapsing in conservative America.

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Belafon  Oct 1, 2021 • 10:18:01pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 1, 2021 • 10:19:58pm

re: #35 Dread Pirate Ron

How stupid do you have to be to be a health care worker doesn’t understand healthcare? I learned all this stuff in high school biology and anatomy & physiology back in 1972. We really have become an idiocracy.

She worked at Vail Health — but the obituary doesn’t say what her job was. Do we know that she was actually a health care worker? There are many administrative positions at such institutions for people who are not involved in direct contact with patients.

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EPR-radar  Oct 1, 2021 • 10:38:48pm

re: #2 austin_blue

CL’d.

Quite the modern nuance in “Designed Obsolescence” isn’t it?

I had a 2012 iMac 27” box. Loved it. It blew out a graphics card in 2016 (replaced) and then again in 2020. Apple didn’t support the Graphics tech anymore. It’s a pile of junk sitting over in the corner of my office.

I have a 2012 Mac Pro which will have to be replaced soon because of planned obsolescence in the OS. It’s very irritating.

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Targetpractice  Oct 1, 2021 • 10:42:47pm

I amble in tonight to see what’s what and I find a Mac Anonymous meeting.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 1, 2021 • 11:37:23pm

re: #40 Targetpractice

I amble in tonight to see what’s what and I find a Mac Anonymous meeting.

Fuckin’ Mac users, almost as annoying as Linux users. AmIright?

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sagehen  Oct 1, 2021 • 11:38:12pm

Nothing anonymous about it. This is the Mac Fansite. You can’t see it from here, but the cosplay is impressive.

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Targetpractice  Oct 1, 2021 • 11:43:40pm

Honestly, I got nothing against Macs, I probably use my iPad Air 2 more than my laptop most days. But I sold my soul to Redmond years ago and have too many scars on my soul from dealings with Win95 to make a wholesale switch.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 1, 2021 • 11:44:13pm

re: #40 Targetpractice

re: #41 Dread Pirate Ron

When the first Mac came out we got one at work. While it wasn’t mine to use I did like it. Then the Mac+ came out and got one at work. Moved on to the Mac II with large color monitor, loved that.

At home I went through the Amiga craze (it was an amazing machine) before finally assembling a generic PC mostly because of price. But in 2003 I got the original PowerBook Pro (17”.) It was great to have in Japan because OSX could handle Japanese easily. Still have it though I’ve not turned it on in a year.

Right now I’m writing this on a 2007 iMac. To keep up with the bloat-ware I’ve had to upgrade to 5Gb of Ram but the biggest improvement was making the boot drive a solid-state drive.

OSX really is what drove me in 2003 to get a portable Mac. Back when Jobs started up NeXT we got one of those at work too and it was really neat. OSX of course has roots in NeXT .

I don’t know for how much longer I can keep this now 14yo iMac running, but it has been an amazing workhorse. As was the PowerBook 17”.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 1, 2021 • 11:52:49pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 1, 2021 • 11:56:30pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2021 • 12:00:26am

How bored am I? I’m sitting here, watching a guy downgrade an ancient IBM AT to get it as close to “period correctness” (i.e. 1984) as he can. It’s a bit like watching a car restoration channel where the guys are using lead as body filler and hunting down bias ply whitewalls or a home restoration show where they’re stuffing crumpled newspaper into the walls as insulation because nobody sells asbestos anymore.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 2, 2021 • 12:26:36am

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 2, 2021 • 12:31:11am

I need this shirt.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 2, 2021 • 12:45:11am
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mmmirele  Oct 2, 2021 • 12:55:16am

I’m on call this weekend, and got summoned at 20:45 for an issue that certainly was not worthy of being paged in for.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 2, 2021 • 12:55:48am

re: #3 Dangerman

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We should not have to parse things this carefully

And then still be guessing

Sausage making is a messy business.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 2, 2021 • 1:03:56am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 2, 2021 • 1:13:52am

Oh! Sweet Nuthin’

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2021 • 1:15:12am

In another fine example of failing to think things through post-Brexit, the UK is trying to attract (temporary) drivers to ease their delivery problems.

But those drivers will need passports, which many drivers do not have. You see, no passport is needed to travel within the EU since the Schengen accords (each nation has its own mandatory photo ID).

So asking drivers to pay upwards of the equivalent of $100 to obtain a passport that they might well only need until December is yet another disincentive…

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2021 • 1:20:00am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In another fine example of failing to think things through post-Brexit, the UK is trying to attract (temporary) drivers to ease their delivery problems.

But those drivers will need passports. None is needed to travel within the EU since the Schengen accords (each nation has its own mandatory photo ID).

So asking drivers to pay upwards of the equivalent of $100 to obtain a passport that they might well only need until December is yet another disincentive…

Again showing that so much of the delay in implementing Brexit was more about feet-dragging than actually needing to…you know…plan for Brexit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2021 • 1:28:32am

re: #56 Targetpractice

Again showing that so much of the delay in implementing Brexit was more about feet-dragging than actually needing to…you know…plan for Brexit.

It was more frustrated feet stamping than feet dragging.

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Nojay UK  Oct 2, 2021 • 1:41:00am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In another fine example of failing to think things through post-Brexit, the UK is trying to attract (temporary) drivers to ease their delivery problems.

But those drivers will need passports, which many drivers do not have. You see, no passport is needed to travel within the EU since the Schengen accords (each nation has its own mandatory photo ID).

As an EU member the UK remained outside the Schengen Accords zone although permitting free movement of EU nationals. AIUI national ID cards were a permissible alternative to a passport for EU nationals at British border entry points — in the other direction, Britons entering a Schengen zone country had to have passports since we don’t have a national ID card system.

Now we’re not part of the EU the UK Border Force don’t have access to the ID card databases of EU nations that allows them to check the validity of an ID card so it has to be passports for all visitors.

IIRC the current working visa application process for non-UK nationals costs several hundred quid for the applicant plus paperwork costs, there are weeks of delay while it is processed and a possible refusal of the visa application at the end of the day if they get something wrong. There haven’t been any details given by the Government whether the desperately needed HGV visas will be free of charge, expedited etc.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 2, 2021 • 3:47:36am

re: #38 Hecuba’s daughter

She worked at Vail Health — but the obituary doesn’t say what her job was. Do we know that she was actually a health care worker? There are many administrative positions at such institutions for people who are not involved in direct contact with patients.

Still should get the shot.

I have friends who work IT in stuff directly related to UPMC (University of Pittsburgh Medical Center). They had pretty high priority to get vaccinated, and did so. UPMC supported this since the IT staff and others had direct contact to doctors and other staff and thus could be a vector to spread the virus.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 2, 2021 • 4:27:13am

Note “the Saint” unit emblem on the tail.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2021 • 4:45:45am

Help! I’m lying on my side and I can’t get up… because I’ve got a toasty dog curled up behind my knees snoring away.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 2, 2021 • 4:51:39am

re: #59 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Still should get the shot.

I have friends who work IT in stuff directly related to UPMC (University of Pittsburgh Medical Center). They had pretty high priority to get vaccinated, and did so. UPMC supported this since the IT staff and others had direct contact to doctors and other staff and thus could be a vector to spread the virus.

Common sense, really. It’s get the jab or don’t breathe for the 8 or however many hours a day you’re there working. I mean it’s airborne. It’s not like you can avoid breathing and unless you’re in a hermetically sealed room with no access to anyone else (which included coming and going)… And even then, get the jab.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 4:52:45am

About those anti-vaxx medical personnel:

23 anti-vaccine doctors urge Alabama governor to make mandates illegal
al.com

In other news, local sales of leeches are up.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 2, 2021 • 4:59:13am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 2, 2021 • 5:00:51am
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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2021 • 5:04:55am

re: #64 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

He’s apparently at it again.

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So whichever dime store lawyer he could afford not to pay is trying to argue that his 1A rights were violated because Twitter was “coerced” by “members of Congress.”

I smell the desperation all the way up here in VA.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 5:05:03am

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Dating is wrong on that photo—it’s a couple years old. There is probably some mixup involving “sunsets” and the current solar blackout of the Mars line-of-sight.

It’s also a beautiful image, one of those that triggered the question “Can robots make art?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2021 • 5:07:09am
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William Lewis  Oct 2, 2021 • 5:18:45am

re: #67 Decatur Deb

Dating is wrong on that photo—it’s a couple years old. There is probably some mixup involving “sunsets” and the current solar blackout of the Mars line-of-sight.

It’s also a beautiful image, one of those that triggered the question “Can robots make art?”

I remembered seeing it previously. I do think that one is particularily artistic; almost as much as the pale blue dot photo or Earthrise.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 5:22:08am

The worst user-trap I’ve seen on the Intertubes is the failure to maintain a clear date/time history for statements and images. Between originators that don’t establish a Date Time Group and the overwriting of the original DTG through layers of forwards, copies, and quotes it is very easy to lose or mistake the chronology of an item.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2021 • 5:27:59am

re: #64 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

He’s apparently at it again.

Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech…”

Don’t say a damn thing about Congressmen coercing.

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Dangerman  Oct 2, 2021 • 5:30:11am

re: #66 Targetpractice

So whichever dime store lawyer he could afford not to pay is trying to argue that his 1A rights were violated because Twitter was “coerced” by “members of Congress.”

I smell the desperation all the way up here in VA.

so twitter, and esp @jack have no agency that they can be easily ‘coerced’?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 2, 2021 • 5:30:13am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech…”

Don’t say a damn thing about Congressmen coercing.

Maybe Trump should be speaking out about McCarthy and friends threatening various companies with retribution recently.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:02:04am

re: #58 Nojay UK

IIRC the current working visa application process for non-UK nationals costs several hundred quid for the applicant plus paperwork costs, there are weeks of delay while it is processed and a possible refusal of the visa application at the end of the day if they get something wrong. There haven’t been any details given by the Government whether the desperately needed HGV visas will be free of charge, expedited etc.

Do you really believe they actually think these “solutions” through before tossing them out to show that they are “doing something”?

Meanwhile, they are trying to recruit Germans:

Government asks German residents to drive lorries even if they never have before


The UK govt has written to thousands of Germans living in Britain to ask them to “consider returning” to driving trucks. Most of them never had, but were in some database of potential truckers because old German driving licenses could be used for vans.

“Grandfather drove his Panzer all the way across France and always dreamed of crossing the Channel with it!!!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:03:24am

re: #70 Decatur Deb

The worst user-trap I’ve seen on the Intertubes is the failure to maintain a clear date/time history for statements and images. Between originators that don’t establish a Date Time Group and the overwriting of the original DTG through layers of forwards, copies, and quotes it is very easy to lose or mistake the chronology of an item.

Many of the Benghazi!!!11ty scandals involved not taking into account the time differences between there and Washington DC

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:03:45am

re: #21 retired cynic

We bought a Kaypro five minutes (it seemed like) before the first Macintosh was born. When we wanted to publish a book, we bought a Mac Classic and it did everything except handle the photos, using PageMaker. I have worked up through Mac Minis and Power towers and iMacs, and now have a MacBook Pro I use for several projects and the big 27” iMac I use for publishing. If I could afford to go bigger, I would, but have been an Apple freak since 1992. Also am on my second iPad and my umpteenth iPhone.

I have a Kaypro “portable” in a time capsule in my home’s walls.

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jeffreyw  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:08:54am

Good morning!

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:11:46am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Do you really believe they actually think these “solutions” through before tossing them out to show that they are “doing something”?

Meanwhile, they are trying to recruit Germans:

Government asks German residents to drive lorries even if they never have before


The UK govt has written to thousands of Germans living in Britain to ask them to “consider returning” to driving trucks. Most of them never had, but were in some database of potential truckers because old German driving licenses could be used for vans.

“Grandfather drove his Panzer all the way across France and always dreamed of crossing the Channel with it!!!”

The big issue I’m seeing is that most foreign workers are basically being told that they’re welcome to come work in Britain, but they’re not going to be allowed to stay. Nor can they bring their families over, which would mean being away from home for months or longer when there’s plenty of jobs in mainland Europe that will allow you to bring your family along and even offer the chance at eventual citizenship. And atop all that is the reality that most of the companies they’re trying to draw these workers to are resisting any talk of raising pay, continuing to argue that lorry driving is “unskilled” labor.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:17:00am

re: #78 Targetpractice

And atop all that is the reality that most of the companies they’re trying to draw these workers to are resisting any talk of raising pay, continuing to argue that lorry driving is “unskilled” labor.

God forbid they might have to raise wages…

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:27:15am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

God forbid they might have to raise wages…

Yeah, instead of trying to be competitive with the mainland now that they have neither easy access to cheap labor or an underclass they can easily abuse, they’re plowing forward with the pre-pandemic poverty wages and acting as if the problem is everybody’s “lazy.”

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Nojay UK  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:37:58am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

God forbid they might have to raise wages…

Actually, there was a press report about ten days ago where a British lorry driver turned up to work on a Monday and he was given a pay rise of (IIRC) seven quid an hour without him asking for it.

The bad news was that he was sick of driving lorries and he was planning to quit driving soon and start a consultancy instead.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:41:41am

re: #80 Targetpractice

Yeah, instead of trying to be competitive with the mainland now that they have neither easy access to cheap labor or an underclass they can easily abuse, they’re plowing forward with the pre-pandemic poverty wages and acting as if the problem is everybody’s “lazy.”

Gee, where have I seen that same attitude recently?

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steve_davis  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:43:37am

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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I once asked an astrophysicist friend how much larger Jupiter would look in a Martian sky. “Not perceptibly larger.” apparently Jupiter is so fucking far away that moving a couple hundred million miles closer to it doesn’t really make it noticeably bigger. Same thing with the sun. It’s so damned big that from Mars it really doesn’t look that much smaller to me there.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:43:58am

From Pelosi’s newsroom page:

Today, President Biden honored us with his first in-person visit to our Caucus. He received a hero’s welcome! His presentation on the values of the Biden vision was warmly and enthusiastically received. We look forward to a successful enactment of the Build Back Better Act and Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill.

While great progress has been made in the negotiations to develop a House, Senate and White House agreement on the Build Back Better Act, more time is needed to complete the task. Our priority to create jobs in the health care, family and climate agendas is a shared value. Our Chairs are still working for clarity and consensus. Clearly, the Bipartisan Infrastructure bill will pass once we have agreement on the reconciliation bill…

speaker.gov

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:44:59am

re: #83 steve_davis

I once asked an astrophysicist friend how much larger Jupiter would look in a Martian sky. “Not perceptibly larger.” apparently Jupiter is so fucking far away that moving a couple hundred million miles closer to it doesn’t really make it noticeably bigger. Same thing with the sun. It’s so damned big that from Mars it really doesn’t look that much smaller to me there.

Space is big. REALLY FUCKING BIG.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:46:37am

re: #85 Dopamine Fish

Space is big. REALLY FUCKING BIG.

Almost not there at all.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:48:18am

re: #84 Belafon

If you remember that the agreement among the Democrats was to.vote for both bills together, here’s how you know it’s the conservaDems that are trying to break things:

Today, October 1, 2021, U.S. Congressman Josh Gottheimer (NJ-5) released the following statement:

“It’s deeply regrettable that Speaker Pelosi breached her firm, public commitment to Members of Congress and the American people to hold a vote and to pass the once-in-a-century bipartisan infrastructure bill on or before September 27…

Along with a group of Members, I’ve been working around-the-clock to pass the bipartisan infrastructure bill, legislation we helped craft back in April with my Senate colleagues. But a small far left faction of the House of Representatives undermined that agreement and blocked a critical vote on the President’s historic bipartisan infrastructure bill…

gottheimer.house.gov

It’s not the left wing trying to break things.

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Nojay UK  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:54:16am

re: #83 steve_davis

Same thing with the sun. It’s so damned big that from Mars it really doesn’t look that much smaller to me there.

In the case of the Sun it would and does appear smaller from Mars orbit than in Earth orbit. That’s only if your naked eye has something identical to compare it against of course. It’s a problem with solar panel powered satellites, landers and rovers operating on and around Mars, the amount of sunlight is about 60% or so compared to Earth so there’s less electricity generated per square metre of panel area.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 6:56:19am

How dense is the Universe?

So, ordinary matter has a density corresponding to about one proton for every four cubic metres of volume.

sciencefocus.com

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:00:39am

re: #77 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:02:30am

re: #89 Decatur Deb

How dense is the Universe?

sciencefocus.com

For those of us who don’t think in metric, a flaw for sure, that is a cube with an edge of almost a foot.

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William Lewis  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:08:49am

re: #83 steve_davis

I once asked an astrophysicist friend how much larger Jupiter would look in a Martian sky. “Not perceptibly larger.” apparently Jupiter is so fucking far away that moving a couple hundred million miles closer to it doesn’t really make it noticeably bigger. Same thing with the sun. It’s so damned big that from Mars it really doesn’t look that much smaller to me there.

I once asked a similar question about constellations as seen from a planet in the habitable zone of Alpha Centauri. The answer was not much different. One thing we would notice would be an extra star in Cassiopeia though… ;)

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coin operated  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:09:05am

re: #43 Targetpractice

Honestly, I got nothing against Macs, I probably use my iPad Air 2 more than my laptop most days.

Same here…iPad Air 2 with a clamshell/keyboard combo. Wife use to haul around a monster Sony VAIO until I got her the iPad. She just put the finishing touches on novel #2 (full time author thanks to COVID) and it was written entirely on the iPad.

Edited to add…the cellular option is worth *every* penny

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:10:43am

re: #92 William Lewis

I once asked a similar question about constellations as seen from a planet in the habitable zone of Alpha Centauri. The answer was not much different. One thing we would notice would be an extra star in Cassiopeia though… ;)

You would run to Alpha Centauri to borrow a cup of dilithium.

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Jay C  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:12:57am

re: #91 Belafon

For those of us who don’t think in metric, a flaw for sure, that is a cube with an edge of almost a foot.

??

Isn’t a cubic meter a cube with a side of one meter (3-1/4 feet), not “almost a foot”?

“Four cubic meters” would be a cube with each side about 6-1/2 feet, no?
Or am I missing something (As usual with math stuff for me)?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:13:33am

re: #92 William Lewis

…One thing we would notice would be an extra star in Cassiopeia though… ;)

Looking back at Sol?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:15:49am

re: #95 Jay C

??

Isn’t a cubic meter a cube with a side of one meter (3-1/4 feet), not “almost a foot”?

“Four cubic meters” would a cube with each side about 6-1/2 feet, no?
Or a, I missing something (As usual with math stuff for me)?

The article goes on to include the greater proportion of dark matter—thought he was going there.

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William Lewis  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:19:58am

re: #96 Decatur Deb

Looking back at Sol?

Yep. Fairly bright even (.4 apparent magnitude, say about like Procyon?)

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:20:47am

re: #59 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Still should get the shot.

I have friends who work IT in stuff directly related to UPMC (University of Pittsburgh Medical Center). They had pretty high priority to get vaccinated, and did so. UPMC supported this since the IT staff and others had direct contact to doctors and other staff and thus could be a vector to spread the virus.

Definitely — she should have gotten the shot. But that is true whether or not she worked at a hospital or health care facility. My comment was directed at the issue of whether she was a health care worker who had specific training and knowledge about health issues.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:25:26am

re: #99 Hecuba’s daughter

Definitely — she should have gotten the shot. But that is true whether or not she worked at a hospital or health care facility. My comment was directed at the issue of whether she was a health care worker who had specific training and knowledge about health issues.

There is an element that can keep fairly intelligent and fairly well-informed people from accepting the scientific consensus. That is the concerted attack on trust and credibility launched on the public by sophisticates like Steve Bannon, RT, and native RW media. They have succeeded in keeping a good chunk of the American people from trusting anyone.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:27:04am

re: #99 Hecuba’s daughter

Definitely — she should have gotten the shot. But that is true whether or not she worked at a hospital or health care facility. My comment was directed at the issue of whether she was a health care worker who had specific training and knowledge about health issues.

True. Though even in jobs without specific training they might well pick up knowledge or information via osmosis since it aids with the job or simply due to exposure.

Though personality and interests play a big part in the latter. I value knowledge, read a lot, and have picked up swathes of odd information; logistics due to history reading and working with related systems in my IT job; geology due to my brother’s profession and also thinking that fossils and rocks are pretty cool; etc.

Edit: And I know that not all people are like that since I had co-workers who were essentially uninterested in learning more than what was necessary by rote to do the job.

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A Cranky One  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:28:46am

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:29:38am

re: #95 Jay C

??

Isn’t a cubic meter a cube with a side of one meter (3-1/4 feet), not “almost a foot”?

“Four cubic meters” would be a cube with each side about 6-1/2 feet, no?
Or am I missing something (As usual with math stuff for me)?

You’re correct. I did my conversation to centimeters wrong.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:31:30am

re: #103 Belafon

You’re correct. I did my conversation to centimeters wrong.

That’s why the cubic league is a superior tool for astronomy.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:38:09am

Because we need a gold standard and it should be tied to something inherently worthless that’s a massive waste of energy and a terrible CO2 emitter, instead of a very useful metal.
/

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CleverToad  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:42:39am

re: #93 coin operated

Same here…iPad Air 2 with a clamshell/keyboard combo. Wife use to haul around a monster Sony VAIO until I got her the iPad. She just put the finishing touches on novel #2 (full time author thanks to COVID) and it was written entirely on the iPad.

Edited to add…the cellular option is worth *every* penny

Cool. What genre of novels is she writing? Wishing her all the success at it!

What word processor?
Before I got a Mac Air a few years ago, my husband kept telling me I could write my fiction on a tablet; I kept rolling my eyes and explaining that I needed a real keyboard and Pages didn’t have the functionality I wanted. I’m guessing the software has improved quite a bit since then?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:43:48am

re: #105 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Because we need a gold standard and it should be tied to something inherently worthless that’s a massive waste of energy and a terrible CO2 emitter, instead of a very useful metal.
/

Why do we not use Republicans to row galleys?

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:43:58am

re: #105 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:45:50am

re: #108 Belafon

Crypto is based on the full faith and credit of libertarian dudebros. The US dollar is based on the full faith and credit of the 82nd Airborne.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:46:25am
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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:47:16am
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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:48:29am

I wonder if it contains Ivermectin:

It really is Tamiflu:

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:49:38am

re: #112 Belafon

Reload

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:50:45am

re: #101 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

True.Though even in jobs without specific training they might well pick up knowledge or information via osmosis since it aids with the job or simply due to exposure.
…….

As Decatur Deb mentioned in 63 above, there are actual doctors who object to this vaccine. So everything depends on your source of information and who you trust. Lies, reinforced by trusted authorities, will keep you ignorant. And it can be difficult to break through this web of deceit. There are real nurses who parrot these untruths that they believe; I was just commenting that we don’t know that she was one of them; certainly she hasn’t appeared in sorryantivaxxer.com.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:51:44am
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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:55:11am

Wouldn’t work here because Republicans are politicizing the military.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:56:05am
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 2, 2021 • 7:56:33am

re: #115 Belafon

Why are the Kochs opposed to mask mandates? It doesn’t seem like it should be an issue of interest to them since it’s not related to transferring wealth to the rich or despoiling the environment. Is it just that they are libertarian dudebros — that they don’t oppose masks per se but do oppose mandates?

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:00:08am

It’s kind of annoying that we care which Supreme Court member did this:

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:00:54am
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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:01:18am

Broadway may not open as quickly as hoped:

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:02:06am

re: #121 Belafon

Broadway may not open as quickly as hoped:

“Virus! It’s everywhere. Get used to it.”
//

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:04:14am

re: #118 Hecuba’s daughter

Why are the Kochs opposed to mask mandates? It doesn’t seem like it should be an issue of interest to them since it’s not related to transferring wealth to the rich or despoiling the environment.

Keeping most of the population dumb and desperate means the Kochs get richer and more powerful.

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Teukka  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:13:49am

re: #118 Hecuba’s daughter

Why are the Kochs opposed to mask mandates? It doesn’t seem like it should be an issue of interest to them since it’s not related to transferring wealth to the rich or despoiling the environment. Is it just that they are libertarian dudebros — that they don’t oppose masks per se but do oppose mandates?

Culling the herd? Hoping that something will happens which will take out more libs than conservatives?

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Dangerman  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:14:01am

re: #85 Dopamine Fish

Space is big. REALLY FUCKING BIG.

and like australia, it tries to kill you

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:18:25am

re: #124 Teukka

Culling the herd? Hoping that something will happens which will take out more libs than conservatives?

Generating another run on toilet paper. They own a large interest in Georgia Pacific.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:19:01am

re: #125 Dangerman

and like australia, it tries to kill you

So you’re saying Australians should be the first folks we send to Mars?

/

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Jay C  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:20:47am

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

So you’re saying Australians should be the first folks we send to Mars?

/

Why not?
If they can survive in Australia, they should be able to make it most anyplace….

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Dangerman  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:21:32am

re: #114 Hecuba’s daughter

As Decatur Deb mentioned in 63 above, there are actual doctors who object to this vaccine. So everything depends on your source of information and who you trust. Lies, reinforced by trusted authorities, will keep you ignorant. And it can be difficult to break through this web of deceit. There are real nurses who parrot these untruths that they believe; I was just commenting that we don’t know that she was one of them; certainly she hasn’t appeared in sorryantivaxxer.com.

being an actual doctor doesnt necessarily mean you know anything relevant about cutting edge epidemiology and pandemic mediation

being an actual doctor doesnt even make you a good one
in every country there is a ‘worst doctor’
and someone has an appointment with them later today

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:21:47am

re: #126 Decatur Deb

Generating another run on toilet paper. They own a large interest in Georgia Pacific.

That was probably irresponsible to post. There are progressive idiots like the Young Turks who would run with it.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:22:05am

re: #126 Decatur Deb

Generating another run on toilet paper. They own a large interest in Georgia Pacific.

Maybe they’re clearing space for more pine plantations.

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Dangerman  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:23:40am

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

So you’re saying Australians should be the first folks we send to Mars?

/

they have better training

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:24:23am

re: #131 jaunte

Maybe they’re clearing space for more pine plantations.

Toilet paper and pine boxes.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:26:44am

re: #132 Dangerman

they have better training

There was a delightful 1950s sci-fi story about a primitive hell-planet. When the terraforming expedition arrived, the ships dropped ramp and Amish buggies and farm wagons rolled out.

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JC1  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:27:35am

re: #118 Hecuba’s daughter

Why are the Kochs opposed to mask mandates? It doesn’t seem like it should be an issue of interest to them since it’s not related to transferring wealth to the rich or despoiling the environment. Is it just that they are libertarian dudebros — that they don’t oppose masks per se but do oppose mandates?

I think that it’s the libertarian ‘don’t tread on me thing’. They’re fairly consistent in their libertarian views, unlike Ron/Rand Paul and the like.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:31:00am

re: #87 Belafon

If you remember that the agreement among the Democrats was to.vote for both bills together, here’s how you know it’s the conservaDems that are trying to break things:

gottheimer.house.gov

It’s not the left wing trying to break things.

Further down is the part that should have a lot of folks who showed up last year to keep the Dems in power seeing red:

We cannot let this small faction on the far left — who employ Freedom Caucus tactics, as described by the New York Times today — destroy the President’s agenda and stop the creation of two million jobs a year — including for the millions of hard-working men and women of labor. We were elected to achieve reasonable, commonsense solutions for the American people — not to obstruct from the far wings. This far left faction is willing to put the President’s entire agenda, including this historic bipartisan infrastructure package, at risk. They’ve put civility and bipartisan governing at risk.

The only people who have put the President’s agenda “at risk” are this corporate-owned hack and his tiny cohort of “moderate” Dems who are attempting to sabotage the bulk of the BBB agenda just to get $1.5T in corporate welfare out the door before they slam it shut and wail about “entitlement mentality.”

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:32:27am

re: #135 JC1

I think that it’s the libertarian ‘don’t tread on me thing’. They’re fairly consistent in their libertarian views, unlike Ron/Rand Paul and the like.

I’m clinging to the toilet paper.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:33:13am
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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:34:20am

re: #136 Targetpractice

Further down is the part that should have a lot of folks who showed up last year to keep the Dems in power seeing red:

The only people who have put the President’s agenda “at risk” are this corporate-owned hack and his tiny cohort of “moderate” Dems who are attempting to sabotage the bulk of the BBB agenda just to get $1.5T in corporate welfare out the door before they slam it shut and wail about “entitlement mentality.”

Yep. Biden has been further left than many progressives had hoped from what I’ve read. They’re supporting what he’s doing because they know this is their best shot.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:34:24am
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JOE 🥓  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:36:02am

Today we march to tell six assholes on the corrupted court to leave Roe alone.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:36:29am

In other signs of the Apocalypse, a major brand has come out with pumpkin-spice bug spray.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:38:05am

re: #139 Belafon

Yep. Biden has been further left than many progressives had hoped from what I’ve read. They’re supporting what he’s doing because they know this is their best shot.

Prexactly. And the 12 fuckwits in the House and Senate who seem to either be swimming in corporate cash or so fossilized that they still think it’s 1984 and people froth on command if you use the phrase “welfare queen” are trying to sabotage all that.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:38:28am

re: #142 Decatur Deb

In other signs of the Apocalypse, a major brand has come out with pumpkin-spice bug spray.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:38:34am

re: #142 Decatur Deb

In other signs of the Apocalypse, a major brand has come out with pumpkin-spice bug spray.

My ant spray is lavender and I’m not entirely sure I like death smelling so good.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:40:54am

re: #145 Belafon

My ant spray is lavender and I’m not entirely sure I like death smelling so good.

Fire-ant poison should only come in two scents—phosgene and mustard gas.

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ericblair  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:40:55am

re: #85 Dopamine Fish

Space is big. REALLY FUCKING BIG.

Any sci-fi where you don’t feel that the universe is a few tiny flakes of stuff in an unimaginably huge emptiness is not hard sci-fi.

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jeffreyw  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:41:22am

re: #118 Hecuba’s daughter

Why are the Kochs opposed to mask mandates? It doesn’t seem like it should be an issue of interest to them since it’s not related to transferring wealth to the rich or despoiling the environment. Is it just that they are libertarian dudebros — that they don’t oppose masks per se but do oppose mandates?

Because they are rubes. Very rich rubes - the worst kind. Money doesn’t protect you from propaganda. Same goes for CEOs of billion dollar companies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:44:43am

re: #134 Decatur Deb

There was a delightful 1950s sci-fi story about a primitive hell-planet. When the terraforming expedition arrived, the ships dropped ramp and Amish buggies and farm wagons rolled out.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:45:40am

re: #148 jeffreyw

Because they are rubes. Very rich rubes - the worst kind. Money doesn’t protect you from propaganda. Same goes for CEOs of billion dollar companies.

Very true. Like the Waltons they are the big end of the hinterland gentry. Not all billionaires are, of course. In fact, the US billionaire community is about the size of a largish high school graduating class, so it stands to reason that it would be similarly divided into factions and cliques.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:45:54am

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Zero g simplifies and complicates barn-raisings.

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mmmirele  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:45:54am

re: #105 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Because we need a gold standard and it should be tied to something inherently worthless that’s a massive waste of energy and a terrible CO2 emitter, instead of a very useful metal.
/

Thanks, I sent this along to my friend the cryptocurrency expert. Since he lives in the UK, he doesn’t know who Cawthorn is, hence the “dumbest Congresscritter” part.

ETA his response

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:46:39am

re: #152 mmmirele

Why not use Cthulu as the new Lord and God?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:47:12am

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s delightful. What’s it from?

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steve_davis  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:48:02am

listening to jeff beck’s blow by blow for first time in a good while. god damn this man beats the crap out of clapton on a strat. so far, british guitar hero rankings keep having clapton drop farther and farther down the list. And I also just listened to the Layla album again for the first time in awhile, and Clapton is in excellent form, but his level of technique and creativity just pale next to Beck. In fairness, most people’s technique and creativity pale next to Beck.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:48:20am

re: #154 Decatur Deb

That’s delightful. What’s it from?

An old National Lampoon bit called “Amish in Space”, you can find more of it on the Internet. That was all I could come up with at short notice.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:48:50am
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jeffreyw  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:49:13am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why not use Cthulu as the new Lord and God?

Because prayer to him won’t prevent you from being eaten first.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:50:06am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

An old National Lampoon bit called “Amish in Space”, you can find more of it on the Internet. That was all I could come up with at short notice.

There’s a Futurama episode with the Amish in space. The spaceship has oxen walking on a treadmill for propulsion.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:50:49am

re: #158 jeffreyw

Because prayer to him won’t prevent you from being eaten first.

Is that different than now?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:51:06am

re: #157 jaunte

Ongoing audits and contesting the results of the election are a win-win for the GOP; the point is to keep the story and the narrative in the news, where it will all be treated as if it had any merit because of both sides, you know….

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mmmirele  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:51:36am

re: #158 jeffreyw

Because prayer to him won’t prevent you from being eaten first.

Actually, I thought you were supposed to pray to Cthulhu to be eaten first (at least according to that Chick tract parody that’s made the rounds).

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steve_davis  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:51:44am

re: #158 jeffreyw

Because prayer to him won’t prevent you from being eaten first.

One could say Cthulhu has a real hunger for religion.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:52:02am

re: #152 mmmirele

Thanks, I sent this along to my friend the cryptocurrency expert. Since he lives in the UK, he doesn’t know who Cawthorn is, hence the “dumbest Congresscritter” part.

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Cawthorn is the living argument for why you want people who’ve at least progressed past their “college fratboy” stage in life before sending them to Congress.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:52:06am
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Belafon  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:52:44am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ongoing audits and contesting the results of the election are a win-win for the GOP; the point is to keep the story and the narrative in the news, where it will all be treated as if it had any merit because of both sides, you know….

Which is why we have to keep laughing and saying “Biden wins again.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:52:50am
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darthstar  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:52:50am

re: #118 Hecuba’s daughter

Why are the Kochs opposed to mask mandates? It doesn’t seem like it should be an issue of interest to them since it’s not related to transferring wealth to the rich or despoiling the environment. Is it just that they are libertarian dudebros — that they don’t oppose masks per se but do oppose mandates?

Koch. One of those assholes died a while back.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:56:38am

Don’t look at me, I voted for Hast{#`%${%&`+’${`%&NO CARRIER

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 2, 2021 • 8:59:53am
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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:01:59am

Happy Caturday

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:02:21am

re: #170 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

And DT hired this person to represent him? OMG.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:03:11am

Another stampede of equestrian puns on Twitter:

(17 more responses)

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jeffreyw  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:04:32am

re: #160 Belafon

Is that different than now?

Ask the rubes.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:04:47am

re: #168 darthstar

Koch. One of those assholes died a while back.

I usually render it as “Koch Brothers

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jeffreyw  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:05:47am

re: #162 mmmirele

Actually, I thought you were supposed to pray to Cthulhu to be eaten first (at least according to that Chick tract parody that’s made the rounds).

blasphemy!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:06:28am

re: #175 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I usually render it as “Koch Brothers

By incorporating, they achieve immortality and super powers—like vampires.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:12:41am

Speaking of Lin Wood, I am so old I remember when the John Birch Society was officially declared too crazy for the GOP and the gatekeepers of the asylum, Goldwater, Reagan and Buckley, ran them out of the party.

Today, there is no such thing as too crazy for the GOP.

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JC1  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:21:09am

So any Mormons on this board, or at least people familiar with some of their beliefs? Are soaking’ and ‘jump humping’ real things or just made up internet stuff. If real, how widespread are the practices.

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dat_said  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:22:10am

re: #102 A Cranky One

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The reflexive response to “there’s no ‘I’ in ‘team’” should always be “but there’s one in ‘win’”.

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plansbandc  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:27:10am

re: #179 JC1

Was listening to one of my true crime pods about insane crimes committed by Mormons. (There actually could be a true crime pod that did nothing but cover Mormons, surprised no one has done it yet)

Soaking was discussed, and it’s actually a thing. But I haven’t had that confirmed. Thinking the ex Mormon subreddit could confirm.

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Dangerman  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:28:37am

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JOE 🥓  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:29:37am

re: #170 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Why hasn’t Lin Wood been arrested and disbarred?

Oh that also goes for Shithead Sidney Powell and Screwdy Giuliani as well!

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Dangerman  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:36:03am

re: #173 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Another stampede of equestrian puns on Twitter:

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(17 more responses)

These people think they are smarter than they are.

Proof: they are the ones who keep dying

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Dangerman  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:37:21am

re: #180 dat_said

The reflexive response to “there’s no ‘I’ in ‘team’” should always be “but there’s one in ‘win’”.

Is why I only do individual sports

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:40:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:43:47am
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mmmirele  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:49:16am

re: #179 JC1

So any Mormons on this board, or at least people familiar with some of their beliefs? Are soaking’ and ‘jump humping’ real things or just made up internet stuff. If real, how widespread are the practices.

Longtime resident of the Jell-O belt here. “Soaking” is definitely a thing and has been for quite a few years. (Although I suspect it’s been played more for laughs in a lot instances.) This “jump humping” is absolutely brand new and I believe it was made up to make “soaking” more salacious.

When I lived in Utah in the late 1990s and a certain president said that receiving oral sex was not sex in a deposition, it seemed to me that all the teenagers had banded together to accept this definition. The dominant religion has a very strict definition of sex, it’s only acceptable within marriage and kids trying to make oral sex not be sex were trying to keep themselves out of their bishops’ offices.

Of course, the whole thing was sexist as hell, because if you gave oral sex, it was sex. But not receiving. Blergh.

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A Cranky One  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:54:22am

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JOE 🥓  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:56:37am

re: #186 jaunte

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2021 • 9:57:42am

“This is the future liberals want.”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 2, 2021 • 10:01:56am

I half suspect the Alex Jones thing might run along the lines of that they were told not to delete documents, and they went and deleted them anyways. And it was known that they had documents previously to being told not to delete them. So when ordered to turn them over they simply settled for the loss instead of tossing a few additional charges onto the pile by admitting they’d flaunted an order not to delete.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Oct 2, 2021 • 10:02:18am

re: #189 A Cranky One

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So this pic begs the question. WTF is Mac The Knife doing with the McDonald cast?

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mmmirele  Oct 2, 2021 • 10:02:42am

In “return to office,” the execs at my too big to fail employer have given up on getting all the people hastily evicted from offices back in March 2020 back in those same offices by the end of 2021. The return to office has been pushed back to January 10, 2022. Which in my case means, February 2022, or maybe never. I think I mentioned that one of my coworkers has COVID and is out on leave. Oh and he wasn’t vaccinated, but was trying to keep his immune system up with copious amounts of vitamins. *rolls eyes* I see no reason to return to office if there are idiots in the office who won’t vaccinate. I have comorbidities and care for an elderly mother, no job is worth getting a dangerous disease over.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Oct 2, 2021 • 10:06:48am

re: #193 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

So this pic begs the question. WTF is Mac The Knife doing with the McDonald cast?

Never mind. Google and you shall know.

1988 McDONALDs “Mack the Knife” ad for $.99 BIG MACs

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 2, 2021 • 10:08:53am

I’m all in on the gulags, er, re-education centers and I am wondering if there is a way to cash in. Biden obviously won’t allow private management, though the inmates themselves would probably approve, but they will need land and facilities. I can lease them part of the Conspiracy Complex here. It has good road access, some hills for watchtowers and it is regularly patrolled by feral hogs who could be trained to be even more vicious with a little effort. They could also supply some additional variety to the steady diet of gruel and soy beans when the population gets too large.

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mmmirele  Oct 2, 2021 • 10:15:06am

Dunno if this was mentioned.

(CNN)Justice Brett Kavanaugh has tested positive for Covid-19, the Supreme Court said Friday, the first publicly known case of coronavirus among the high court’s justices.

Kavanaugh, who is fully vaccinated, tested positive on Thursday night, the court said in a statement. The justice’s immediate family tested negative and he has no symptoms.
Kavanaugh underwent a routine Covid test Thursday ahead of fellow Justice Amy Coney Barrett’s investiture ceremony Friday, which he will no longer be attending out of precaution, the court said.

cnn.com

I may say something wrong, so I’ll say nothing.

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jeffreyw  Oct 2, 2021 • 10:20:30am
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JOE 🥓  Oct 2, 2021 • 10:21:13am

He’s still plotting the next phase of the coup!

Bannon fires up ‘shock troops’ for next GOP White House

Scores of former Trump political appointees gathered at a GOP social club Wednesday night to hear Steve Bannon detail how they could help the next Republican president reconfigure government.

“If you’re going to take over the administrative state and deconstruct it then you have to have shock troops prepared to take it over immediately,” Bannon said in a telephone interview with NBC News. “I gave ‘em fire and brimstone.”

nbcnews.com

I got a better idea!

LOCK BANNON UP!

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wrenchwench  Oct 2, 2021 • 10:26:54am

re: #191 jaunte

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“This is the future liberals want.”

Some liberals want no motors in there, unless you’re using 4 wheels and can’t pedal.

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A Cranky One  Oct 2, 2021 • 10:28:27am

re: #197 mmmirele

Dunno if this was mentioned.

cnn.com

I may say something wrong, so I’ll say nothing.

Proof that alcohol doesn’t kill the virus

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wrenchwench  Oct 2, 2021 • 10:29:10am

re: #198 jeffreyw

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That’s an old biscuit.

Oh, the cheddar!

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 2, 2021 • 10:32:30am

re: #129 Dangerman

being an actual doctor doesnt necessarily mean you know anything relevant about cutting edge epidemiology and pandemic mediation

being an actual doctor doesnt even make you a good one
in every country there is a ‘worst doctor’
and someone has an appointment with them later today

Yep. What do you call the person who graduated dead last in class from medical school? Doctor.

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jeffreyw  Oct 2, 2021 • 10:44:09am

re: #202 wrenchwench

That’s an old biscuit.

Oh, the cheddar!

They keep well, some say better than Twinkies.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 2, 2021 • 10:45:32am

re: #204 jeffreyw

And it certainly tastes better than Twinkies. And we do not eat Twinkies in Philly.

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2021 • 12:14:49pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth


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