Mickey the Meth Dealer
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 6:53:13pm |
Well, at least the statute of limitations has expired. Because I don’t think Mickey would do very well in Pelican Bay.
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Stanghazi Mon, Jun 21, 2010 6:57:01pm |
This is my favorite.
[Link: www.neitherland.com…]
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Interesting Times Mon, Jun 21, 2010 6:58:08pm |
Speaking of cartoon characters…
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS!
Who died in an oil spill because of BP?
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS!
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swamprat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:01:41pm |
re: #4 publicityStunted
His squirrel-friend survived because she has a diving helmet.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:02:52pm |
re: #4 publicityStunted
Speaking of cartoon characters…
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS!
Who died in an oil spill because of BP?
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS!
That’s clever, but I can’t laugh at it. The situation is too tragic.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:03:52pm |
Wow after seeing this I’m starting to think there might be some truth to that rumor that Walt Disney had himself frozen in a block of ice…
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Kragar Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:08:49pm |
Ah, memories.
The kind of memory you share with a friend, chuckle nervously and quickly change the subject.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:09:13pm |
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:09:44pm |
Man, Mickey and Goofy drug dealers, Spongebob dead in the oil slick, and Bert associated with terrorists. My childhood is just absolutely shredded.
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ryannon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:10:25pm |
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Amory Blaine Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:12:24pm |
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ryannon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:13:50pm |
“Mickey Rodent!” (Mad #19)
“Every year around this time there is always a recap of people who have passed away and we lost some talented folks in 2008, a partial list of whom can be found here. I’ve been lamenting the loss of Will “Chicken Fat” Elder this past May. His subversive illustrations for Mad and other publications have tickled my funny bone for a long time. Here is the hilarious sendup of Disney that he did with Harvey Kurtzman for Mad #19, way back in 1955. Hoohah!”
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:14:11pm |
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:15:01pm |
re: #4 publicityStunted
Speaking of cartoon characters…
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS!
Who died in an oil spill because of BP?
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS!
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:15:44pm |
Whatever’s in that bottle must be the same sort of mystery potion the guy where I used to work work drank, causing him to test positive for drugs, causing us to want to fire him. ‘Cause he never did any drugs - just drank some potion the hoo-doo doctor gave him to remove the hex his wife had put on him. But no drugs, no sirree, never.
Yep, Goofy is one evil character.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:16:42pm |
re: #18 jamesfirecat
Marijuana?
Marijuana?
Pot can make you do many things, but I have yet to meet anyone who would seriously argue that taking pot will give you super strength and let you kick ass…
Explains the Zen-like “I yam what I yam”.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:18:33pm |
re: #18 jamesfirecat
Marijuana?
Marijuana?
Pot can make you do many things, but I have yet to meet anyone who would seriously argue that taking pot will give you super strength and let you kick ass…
I suppose there is someone out there who would react thusly. I’d never want to meet that person.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:19:03pm |
What the hell is Goofy?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:20:33pm |
re: #18 jamesfirecat
Marijuana?
Marijuana?
Pot can make you do many things, but I have yet to meet anyone who would seriously argue that taking pot will give you super strength and let you kick ass…
Of course, the Zulu might never have vanquished the British at Isandlwana without the help of traditional Zulu medicines. Some scholars have suggested that Zulu pharmacopoeia provided more of a psychological boost than any real physiological effect. But recent scientific studies show that the medicines contained some very potent drugs. For example, warriors were given a cannabis (marijuana)-based snuff to take during battle. Analysis of the snuff has revealed that it contained extremely high levels of THC, a powerful hallucinogen, and yet no detectable levels of the chemicals that cause the sedative effects of marijuana.
For whatever that is worth.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:21:34pm |
re: #22 MandyManners
I actually knew a dude in HS that was like that. I made a point of not smoking with him.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:24:04pm |
re: #22 MandyManners
I suppose there is someone out there who would react thusly. I’d never want to meet that person.
It’s common to walk by people in Oakland and smell the good herb in the air. That doesn’t bother me one bit. What gets my attention and causes me to look over my shoulder are the ones tweaking on something nasty like crack or meth.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:24:54pm |
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:25:39pm |
re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth
I actually knew a dude in HS that was like that. I made a point of not smoking with him.
I’ve known a few who got quite irate when their stash ran out.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:27:05pm |
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:28:18pm |
re: #26 eclectic infidel
It’s common to walk by people in Oakland and smell the good herb in the air. That doesn’t bother me one bit. What gets my attention and causes me to look over my shoulder are the ones tweaking on something nasty like crack or meth.
Crack or meth v. pot?
Hand’s down pot.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:30:26pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:30:50pm |
What is it with you people and pot?
Also, evening Honcos.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:31:48pm |
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:32:09pm |
re: #30 MandyManners
Crack or meth v. pot?
Hand’s down pot.
I know just one thing mon, I never met me an angry pot smoker….
Robin Williams
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:32:34pm |
Clearly, we need new legislation to allow police to demand to see the reality documentation for any cartoon character caught in compromising circumstances.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:33:28pm |
re: #35 Charles
Clearly, we need new legislation to allow police to demand to see the reality documentation for any cartoon character caught in compromising circumstances.
Yeah, deport them! Send them back to…wait, where do they come from again?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:33:59pm |
re: #24 Slumbering Behemoth
For whatever that is worth.
Interesting. But it needs to be noted the the Zulu warriors who fought at Isandlwana did not receive those medicines before the battle. The battle began when a British patrol led by Lts. Raw And Roberts (no relation to Field Marshal Lord Roberts) crested a height and stumbled upon the main Zulu army. Having been discovered, most of the Zulu force moved out without the usual pre-battle ceremonies. Only the units of the reserve had time for the medicines. Those units crossed the Thukela River and attacked the British supply point at Rorke’s Drift. Such chemicals would then have contributed to their defeat. Because the Zulu’s mostly attacked with uncoordinated rushes. Had they put in repeated, coordinated attacks, they might have overrun the British.
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EdDantes Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:35:27pm |
In the year 1489 people were walking around saying, ” Wow! This is a long time ago!”- Gilbert Godfrey
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Irenicum Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:37:49pm |
re: #36 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
If it’s where Jessica Rabbit lives, can you please deport me there?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:39:08pm |
re: #39 Irenicum
If it’s where Jessica Rabbit lives, can you please deport me there?
You know there was a beaver shot of her’s in that movie, right?
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:39:53pm |
re: #40 Cannadian Club Akbar
You know there was a beaver shot of her’s in that movie, right?
Thanks to Nostalgia Critic…
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cliffster Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:42:12pm |
Goofy and Robin Williams. Ever seen them both in the same room at the same time? Coincidence?
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:42:15pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:42:33pm |
re: #40 Cannadian Club Akbar
You know there was a beaver shot of her’s in that movie, right?
Among other things. There’s also a moment when Baby Herman fondles a woman from below. How those frames made it through editing I’ll never know.
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Irenicum Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:43:22pm |
Roger Rabbit is by far one of my favorite animated/live action movies ever.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:43:30pm |
Very fruitful day today. Made three new chokers, cut and polished 6 new stones, did three hours of programming for Kaiser, a little house work… and I still have three more days off this week.
Good feeling getting something done.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:48:13pm |
Sometimes I wish the police, when dealing with cretins of ANSWER, Al Awda, MECA, etc., would develop an attitude similar to the sheriff in the movie, The Big Lebowski:
“I don’t like you sucking around, bothering our citizens, Lebowski. I don’t like your jerk-off name. I don’t like your jerk-off face. I don’t like your jerk-off behavior, and I don’t like you, jerk-off. Do I make myself clear?”
What a breath of fresh air that would be.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:48:21pm |
re: #50 Walter L. Newton
Very fruitful day today. Made three new chokers, cut and polished 6 new stones, did three hours of programming for Kaiser, a little house work… and I still have three more days off this week.
Good feeling getting something done.
Glad it went well for you, Walter.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:50:21pm |
re: #52 eclectic infidel
Sometimes I wish the police, when dealing with cretins of ANSWER, Al Awda, MECA, etc., would develop an attitude similar to the sheriff in the movie, The Big Lebowski:
“I don’t like you sucking around, bothering our citizens, Lebowski. I don’t like your jerk-off name. I don’t like your jerk-off face. I don’t like your jerk-off behavior, and I don’t like you, jerk-off. Do I make myself clear?”
What a breath of fresh air that would be.
That would be nice right up until someone in the crowd recorded it and the protest group filed a lawsuit. That’s why real life doesn’t measure up to movies: In real life that bold declaration costs you a lot to settle out of court.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:50:53pm |
re: #31 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Best use of that song I’ve seen:
[Video]
It certainly is visually appealing but, is there not a POV that ALL guns are evil because they might wind up in the wrong hands?
A different storyline could show how a bullet wound up being shot from a gun to kill a wannabe splodey-dope in Baghdad or, from a gun that I fired to protect my home?
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:51:15pm |
re: #53 Dark_Falcon
Glad it went well for you, Walter.
Hey, good luck tomorrow. I hope that everything those folks promised you works out.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:51:46pm |
re: #34 jamesfirecat
I know just one thing mon, I never met me an angry pot smoker…
Robin Williams
Robin needs to get out more.
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cliffster Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:52:46pm |
oh my goodness, who is The Bachelorette going to give her roses to? the suspense is killing me…
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:53:42pm |
re: #55 MandyManners
It certainly is visually appealing but, is there not a POV that ALL guns are evil because they might wind up in the wrong hands?
A different storyline could show how a bullet wound up being shot from a gun to kill a wannabe splodey-dope in Baghdad or, from a gun that I fired to protect my home?
Actually, it’s the opening intro from Lord of War, which is supposed to be the semi-fictional life story of an arms dealer. I say “semi-fictional” because the producers and some fans claim that it’s based off the stories of various known arms dealers.
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Irenicum Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:53:44pm |
re: #58 cliffster
I’ve got fish hooks on my tongue!!! Yeah, I’m waiting with baited breath!
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Idle Drifter Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:53:55pm |
This is almost as creepy as the Donald Duck cartoon when he dreamed he was a Nazi.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 7:58:56pm |
re: #54 Dark_Falcon
I know. Twas just fantasy on my part.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:03:30pm |
re: #58 cliffster
oh my goodness, who is The Bachelorette going to give her roses to? the suspense is killing me…
Know what would make The Bachelorette a lot more watchable?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:03:37pm |
re: #59 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Actually, it’s the opening intro from Lord of War, which is supposed to be the semi-fictional life story of an arms dealer. I say “semi-fictional” because the producers and some fans claim that it’s based off the stories of various known arms dealers.
I’ve seen that sequence and most of the movie. I treat that sequence as a kind of warning of all the things that it takes to bring a round to these 3rd-World wars and that once they get there the round of ammo doesn’t care who it kills. I’m not a fan of the arms-control crowd, though: most of those seeking increased international small arms trade regulations are Tranzis who don’t like America’s 2nd Amendment.
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cliffster Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:04:08pm |
you guys are too crazy for me tonight… I’m going to get out for my own good. Night all..
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:04:39pm |
re: #63 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Know what would make The Bachelorette a lot more watchable?
I’m guessing the answer will make someone say “in bed”.
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Political Atheist Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:06:24pm |
re: #64 Dark_Falcon
Exactly. Liked that movie. It was all about that weird universe of guns money and Africa.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:07:18pm |
re: #63 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Know what would make The Bachelorette a lot more watchable?
Hello Kitty War Games, DUH!
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Irenicum Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:07:30pm |
re: #63 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Why do I suddenly have a vision of naked Twister dancing in my head?
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:11:55pm |
re: #70 ~Fianna
You’ve seen this, yes?
It’s ALMOST inspiring me to get “into” hello kitty.
Not, quite, but Kragar has posted some awesome gaming HK’s.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:11:55pm |
re: #69 Irenicum
Why do I suddenly have a vision of naked Twister dancing in my head?
Oh, naked Twister. That’s definitely on my bucket list.
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Irenicum Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:12:40pm |
re: #72 eclectic infidel
Of course it all depends on who you play the game with. VERY important!
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:13:01pm |
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:13:05pm |
re: #52 eclectic infidel
Sometimes I wish the police, when dealing with cretins of ANSWER, Al Awda, MECA, etc., would develop an attitude similar to the sheriff in the movie, The Big Lebowski:
“I don’t like you sucking around, bothering our citizens, Lebowski. I don’t like your jerk-off name. I don’t like your jerk-off face. I don’t like your jerk-off behavior, and I don’t like you, jerk-off. Do I make myself clear?”
What a breath of fresh air that would be.
Longshoreman working the day shift agreed not to cross the picket line of hundreds of protesters, who were demanding an end to Israel’s blockade of the Gaza Strip. Protesters planned to stage another rally to halt the offloading for the evening shift.
SNIP
I made a comment about wondering whom the ILWU supported in 2008.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:14:51pm |
re: #59 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Actually, it’s the opening intro from Lord of War, which is supposed to be the semi-fictional life story of an arms dealer. I say “semi-fictional” because the producers and some fans claim that it’s based off the stories of various known arms dealers.
I know what it is. I just wonder how many people who saw that film were swayed toward the idea that guns are evil and should be banned in America.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:15:42pm |
re: #73 Irenicum
Of course it all depends on who you play the game with. VERY important!
Of course! Right before I got married (now divorced), I was dating 2 women who had no problem with me dating both of them. Shame I didn’t think of it then.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:16:48pm |
re: #64 Dark_Falcon
I’ve seen that sequence and most of the movie. I treat that sequence as a kind of warning of all the things that it takes to bring a round to these 3rd-World wars and that once they get there the round of ammo doesn’t care who it kills. I’m not a fan of the arms-control crowd, though: most of those seeking increased international small arms trade regulations are Tranzis who don’t like America’s 2nd Amendment.
And, let’s not forget the international blow-job behind Iran’s future nuking of Tel Aviv.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:18:29pm |
re: #78 MandyManners
And, let’s not forget the international blow-job behind Iran’s future nuking of Tel Aviv.
But that terrible event can still be averted. Though it may be Israel that has to avert it.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:22:51pm |
re: #75 MandyManners
I made a comment about wondering whom the ILWU supported in 2008.
The ILWU local that did it are jackasses for going along with it. It’s a pity Jerry Brown isn’t still mayor of Oakland, since he would have ordered the police to clear the demonstrators away. Instead, Oakland has red-loving Rom Dellums.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:23:18pm |
re: #79 Dark_Falcon
But that terrible event can still be averted. Though it may be Israel that has to avert it.
Israel who will avert it, and be blamed for any deaths that happen as a result of taking out the nuclear facility, as well as being condemned on a global scale. Business as usual.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:25:58pm |
re: #76 MandyManners
I know what it is. I just wonder how many people who saw that film were swayed toward the idea that guns are evil and should be banned in America.
Ah, my bad. Yeah, I don’t know, I kinda walked away from the film seeing as more of preaching that the world is full of “necessary evil.” That we despise men like Yuri (Cage’s character) because we see the weapons he deals and the death that results as “evil,” but he’s simply the middle man, helping the great powers of the world conduct this little private wars while turning a profit at the same time.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:27:51pm |
re: #80 Dark_Falcon
The ILWU local that did it are jackasses for going along with it. It’s a pity Jerry Brown isn’t still mayor of Oakland, since he would have ordered the police to clear the demonstrators away. Instead, Oakland has red-loving Rom Dellums.
Are you sure that Brown would have done that? Did he ever do something similar to it?
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:28:46pm |
re: #82 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Ah, my bad. Yeah, I don’t know, I kinda walked away from the film seeing as more of preaching that the world is full of “necessary evil.” That we despise men like Yuri (Cage’s character) because we see the weapons he deals and the death that results as “evil,” but he’s simply the middle man, helping the great powers of the world conduct this little private wars while turning a profit at the same time.
I can understand that.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:29:02pm |
re: #83 MandyManners
True but, how far will the FCBHO Administration to produce that out-come?
Watch out with that acronym. It’s liable to get a severe reaction, not the least from Charles. And I don’t think Obama a Communist. A socialist yes, but not a communist.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:32:57pm |
re: #86 Dark_Falcon
Watch out with that acronym. It’s liable to get a severe reaction, not the least from Charles. And I don’t think Obama a Communist. A socialist yes, but not a communist.
He’s got socialist tendencies, but what Democrat doesn’t. Hell, the folks of the 20s and 30s would think modern America had been taken over by the Bolsheviks.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:33:39pm |
re: #75 MandyManners
That whole thing was a travesty on Sunday. I’m disgusted with ILWU local 10 and the talk amongst ourselves is that the longshoremen & port authority were in on the demonstration with ANSWER.
My dad is retired but back ten years now, he was part of Local 34 as a Marine Clerk and worked closely with Local 10. According to him, the protesters had no right to create a picket and should have been arrested on site by OPD so as to allow work on the ship.
The fact that longshoremen arrived and then left citing safety concerns all smells like a publicity stunt, especially given the fact that Local 10 recently condemned Israel’s boarding of the “humanitarian” vessel in international waters.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:33:42pm |
re: #84 MandyManners
Are you sure that Brown would have done that? Did he ever do something similar to it?
I think it likely. He supported Oakland’s police force, increasing its numbers, pay, and equipment while actually letting them fight crime. And he did stand up for the cops against Oakland’s anti-police activists. So I cannot be certain, but I do think Jerry Brown would uphold the rule of law.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:34:33pm |
re: #86 Dark_Falcon
Watch out with that acronym. It’s liable to get a severe reaction, not the least from Charles. And I don’t think Obama a Communist. A socialist yes, but not a communist.
Oopsie! I just typed on “auto”.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:35:14pm |
Just found out my mom was in a car accident. Gotta run to Jacobi. Later all.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:35:43pm |
re: #80 Dark_Falcon
The ILWU local that did it are jackasses for going along with it. It’s a pity Jerry Brown isn’t still mayor of Oakland, since he would have ordered the police to clear the demonstrators away. Instead, Oakland has red-loving Rom Dellums.
True but, how far will the BHO Administration to produce that out-come?
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:36:51pm |
re: #89 Dark_Falcon
He is, and will always be “Governor Moonbeam” to me.
He has a LONG way to go, to loose that nicname.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:38:04pm |
re: #88 eclectic infidel
That whole thing was a travesty on Sunday. I’m disgusted with ILWU local 10 and the talk amongst ourselves is that the longshoremen & port authority were in on the demonstration with ANSWER.
My dad is retired but back ten years now, he was part of Local 34 as a Marine Clerk and worked closely with Local 10. According to him, the protesters had no right to create a picket and should have been arrested on site by OPD so as to allow work on the ship.
The fact that longshoremen arrived and then left citing safety concerns all smells like a publicity stunt, especially given the fact that Local 10 recently condemned Israel’s boarding of the “humanitarian” vessel in international waters.
With all due respect, you need to get a clue. The ILWU is a Prog front. As such, it is anti-Israel.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:38:17pm |
re: #86 Dark_Falcon
Watch out with that acronym. It’s liable to get a severe reaction, not the least from Charles. And I don’t think Obama a Communist. A socialist yes, but not a communist.
Evening. Of course he isn’t a frigging communist, and as to being a socialist, all of Europe, (mostly the Western world) and probably Israel too, by most standards is “socialists”.
According to many in this country, well documented here, being socialist is being in support of Medicare and Social Security. (Glenn Beck the oracle himself says there is nothing in the constitution, or the bible, about social justice AKA socialism).
My point is, in case you missed it, that when you use these terms to make a point as you did, the point is meaningless, whatever it was.
Peace.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:38:49pm |
re: #92 MandyManners
True but, how far will the BHO Administration to produce that out-come?
They aren’t really liable to work at it. They don’t want to fight and unilateral American action will be poorly received.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:39:13pm |
re: #94 MandyManners
Well, it was the first I had heard of it. So there you go.
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Ojoe Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:39:14pm |
On the solstice, the dusk falls in Los Angeles (Towercam)
And at the same time, on the island of Skye, the dawn is breaking (scroll down a bit).
Happy summer solstice.
BB tomorrow.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:40:53pm |
re: #82 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Ah, my bad. Yeah, I don’t know, I kinda walked away from the film seeing as more of preaching that the world is full of “necessary evil.” That we despise men like Yuri (Cage’s character) because we see the weapons he deals and the death that results as “evil,” but he’s simply the middle man, helping the great powers of the world conduct this little private wars while turning a profit at the same time.
I happened to like the movie as well as found myself being sympathetic, on a personal level with Yuri. That being said, it’s important to note that he was involved in arms trading with drug war lords. In the real world, knowingly trading in the illegal arms trade to known genocidal dictators and/or terrorists puts these arms dealers well beyond the scope of being mere middle men.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:41:01pm |
re: #98 Ojoe
Happy summer solstice.
BB tomorrow.
Finally, I can start to sleep later in the morning.
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pharmmajor Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:42:14pm |
Well, now I know how he got the money to finance Epic Mickey.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:42:44pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:43:03pm |
re: #95 Naso Tang
Evening. Of course he isn’t a frigging communist, and as to being a socialist, all of Europe, (mostly the Western world) and probably Israel too, by most standards is “socialists”.
According to many in this country, well documented here, being socialist is being in support of Medicare and Social Security. (Glenn Beck the oracle himself says there is nothing in the constitution, or the bible, about social justice AKA socialism).
My point is, in case you missed it, that when you use these terms to make a point as you did, the point is meaningless, whatever it was.
Peace.
Mandy used an acronym that stands for “Fucking Commie Barack Hussein Obama”. I was warning her that the term was both unwise and untrue. That’s all I should say about it.
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:43:57pm |
re: #96 Dark_Falcon
They aren’t really liable to work at it. They don’t want to fight and unilateral American action will be poorly received.
I miss Pres. Bush.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:44:42pm |
re: #86 Dark_Falcon
Watch out with that acronym. It’s liable to get a severe reaction, not the least from Charles. And I don’t think Obama a Communist. A socialist yes, but not a communist.
9_9
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:44:43pm |
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Varek Raith Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:45:06pm |
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:45:16pm |
re: #97 eclectic infidel
Well, it was the first I had heard of it. So there you go.
I apologize for being snotty, EI.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:46:38pm |
re: #103 Dark_Falcon
Mandy used an acronym that stands for “Fucking Commie Barack Hussein Obama”. I was warning her that the term was both unwise and untrue. That’s all I should say about it.
I missed that. So many acronyms so little time to decode.
Mandy bad, but sometimes I like bad.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:48:09pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:50:36pm |
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Varek Raith Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:51:05pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:53:06pm |
re: #113 MandyManners
PROG ALERT!
Let’s argue the points, not throw labels. Though the Oakland pro-jihad protesters can be called Progs. Not the least because they self-identify as progressives.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:53:35pm |
re: #117 MandyManners
Facts suck at times.
Especially when they are wrong.
So, how am I a progressive?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:53:39pm |
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:53:43pm |
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:55:16pm |
re: #119 Varek Raith
Especially when they are wrong.
So, how am I a progressive?
Did I call you that?
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ryannon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:55:30pm |
Los Angeles lighting up at dusk, viewed from the TowerCam on Mt. Wilson:
[Link: www.astro.ucla.edu…]
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Varek Raith Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:55:55pm |
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Nekama Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:57:32pm |
I loved when Mickey yells “You Lie” to the con artist medicine man.
Shades of Joe Wilson!
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:57:55pm |
re: #115 Varek Raith
SONUVABITCH!
*Opens briefcase, showing red button*
Here, push this button. There’s a 1,000 caps in it for ya.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:58:49pm |
re: #126 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
*Opens briefcase, showing red button*
Here, push this button. There’s a 1,000 caps in it for ya.
GOODBYE, MEGATON!
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MandyManners Mon, Jun 21, 2010 8:59:24pm |
re: #118 Dark_Falcon
Let’s argue the points, not throw labels. Though the Oakland pro-jihad protesters can be called Progs. Not the least because they self-identify as progressives.
Do you think it is accurate to limit that sentiment to Oakland?
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Varek Raith Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:01:02pm |
D’oh!
Talk about misreading a thread…
Whoops…
:)
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ReamWorks SKG Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:05:18pm |
I used to work for The Walt Disney Company. Having had many backstage meetings with Mickey and Goofy I can assure you that they’re now on the wagon.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:05:28pm |
re: #118 Dark_Falcon
Let’s argue the points, not throw labels. Though the Oakland pro-jihad protesters can be called Progs. Not the least because they self-identify as progressives.
Bastardizing the language this is, again. Progressive is a positive word in the language, regardless of whether jerks call themselves that, or their detractors do,
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:05:52pm |
Rather than make dumb arguments that never go anywhere regarding Obbams Satanocommunazisocialist crypto-schemes to give America over to The Terrorists, have some Infected Mushroom at Burning Man instead
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webevintage Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:06:55pm |
Some Queen for an evening thread:
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:07:09pm |
re: #128 MandyManners
Do you think it is accurate to limit that sentiment to Oakland?
Not sure. I’m trying to make sure that when I call someone a progressive here, I’m going to be able to back it up. And when they organize through Indybay, I know I can. I’m making the determination on a case-by-case basis. It’s the best way to make sure the label sticks. I want to make sure that people understand that this bunch of assholes is unworthy of defense.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:09:03pm |
re: #94 MandyManners
With all due respect, you need to get a clue. The ILWU is a Prog front. As such, it is anti-Israel.
Curiously, most of our members in San Francisco Voice for Israel identify as liberal, and one or two even leftist, but they’re still Zionists in the end. In fact, once again, we’re marching in the SF Pride Parade this upcoming Sunday. Israel supports legal equality for its LGBT citizens (save for marriage, like the U.S.), and as an activist group, so do we.
Anyway, I don’t think progressive is a dirty word. I certainly don’t use that label when describing the pro-Jihadi kids/adults at demonstrations like the one at the Port of Oakland. Moonbat is a more appropriate term, IMO.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:10:00pm |
re: #135 Dark_Falcon
It’s the best way to make sure the label sticks. I want to make sure that people understand that this bunch of assholes is unworthy of defense.
No argument here, except that there are countless other words that are better, and more colorful.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:10:18pm |
re: #134 webevintage
Some Queen for an evening thread:
[Video]
Great stuff. Queen is best enjoyed in stereo.
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ReamWorks SKG Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:10:54pm |
re: #75 MandyManners
Actually, given that Mahmoud Abbas, leader of the PA Fatah expressed concern that the latest reactions to the Turkish blockade-busters would strengthen Hamas
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
it’s wrong to call these people in Oakland and their enablers (the Police, the longshoremen, the board of the Port of Oakland, Jerry Brown) “Palestinian Supporters”. They are, in fact, terrorist supporters.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:11:45pm |
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webevintage Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:12:08pm |
re: #138 Dark_Falcon
Great stuff. Queen is best enjoyed in stereo.
As much as I love Freddie Mercury I think I like this version of the song that Brian May did a few years ago:
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:12:44pm |
re: #136 eclectic infidel
Curiously, most of our members in San Francisco Voice for Israel identify as liberal, and one or two even leftist, but they’re still Zionists in the end. In fact, once again, we’re marching in the SF Pride Parade this upcoming Sunday. Israel supports legal equality for its LGBT citizens (save for marriage, like the U.S.), and as an activist group, so do we.
Anyway, I don’t think progressive is a dirty word. I certainly don’t use that label when describing the pro-Jihadi kids/adults at demonstrations like the one at the Port of Oakland. Moonbat is a more appropriate term, IMO.
Concur. Moonbat is a better term for these shitheads. It’s good that Nekama is here tonight, since his avatar perfectly fits this pack. They always Blame America First, except for the times they Blame Israel First in which case they blame America second.
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Nekama Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:13:35pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:13:51pm |
I just found out a friend of mine who I talk to online is bringing a mad-maxed-out Delorean to Burning Man this year
RAD
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ReamWorks SKG Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:13:55pm |
re: #136 eclectic infidel
I haven’t gone to the SF Gay Pride Parade in 15 years. Why? It saddens me to see them allow groups carrying “Israel—OUT OF PALESTINE” banners to march in the parade. Especially since Homosexuality is punishable by DEATH under Hamas law, and that Israel is the only country in the mid-east that guarantees some legal protection for gays and lesbians. Basically the SF gays are allowing a group to march in their parade that advocates death for gays.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:14:26pm |
re: #144 WindUpBird
I just found out a friend of mine who I talk to online is bringing a mad-maxed-out Delorean to Burning Man this year
RAD
What fun!
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:14:27pm |
re: #139 reuven
it’s wrong to call these people in Oakland and their enablers (the Police, the longshoremen, the board of the Port of Oakland, Jerry Brown) “Palestinian Supporters”. They are, in fact, terrorist supporters.
If they put a dime in the collection plates, I believe the Supreme Court just said the same (a little better than the usual 5/4 //)
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:14:38pm |
re: #139 reuven
Actually, given that Mahmoud Abbas, leader of the PA Fatah expressed concern that the latest reactions to the Turkish blockade-busters would strengthen Hamas
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
it’s wrong to call these people in Oakland and their enablers (the Police, the longshoremen, the board of the Port of Oakland, Jerry Brown) “Palestinian Supporters”. They are, in fact, terrorist supporters.
Why is Jerry Brown on that list?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:15:08pm |
re: #135 Dark_Falcon
Not sure. I’m trying to make sure that when I call someone a progressive here, I’m going to be able to back it up. And when they organize through Indybay, I know I can. I’m making the determination on a case-by-case basis. It’s the best way to make sure the label sticks. I want to make sure that people understand that this bunch of assholes is unworthy of defense.
does it ever occur to you that when you use Obama-is-a-socialist Tea Party talking points, that weakens your other political declarations?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:15:27pm |
re: #144 WindUpBird
I just found out a friend of mine who I talk to online is bringing a mad-maxed-out Delorean to Burning Man this year
RAD
Just make sure you don’t end up going back in time, WUB. :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:15:33pm |
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:15:59pm |
re: #142 Dark_Falcon
Concur. Moonbat is a better term for these shitheads. It’s good that Nekama is here tonight, since his avatar perfectly fits this pack. They always Blame America First, except for the times they Blame Israel First in which case they blame America second.
At counter-demos we always make sure to have American flags flying along side Israel’s. It’s a lovely site, especially on a windy day, a sea of blue and white with an intermixing of red/white/& blue.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:16:11pm |
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ReamWorks SKG Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:16:38pm |
…sorry! Here’s a better link about Fatah vs Hamas.
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
People who say they support “Palestine” need to be more specific. Largely, they’re supporting Hamas, and NOT supporting at least 50% of the Palestinians, maybe even the majority of them
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:16:42pm |
re: #149 WindUpBird
does it ever occur to you that when you use Obama-is-a-socialist Tea Party talking points, that weakens your other political declarations?
Well, I’d argue I don’t use the word ‘socialist’ the way they do; but given how badly they’ve debased the word I take your point.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:18:25pm |
re: #151 WindUpBird
Man I don’t even know, it’s weird in here tonight
Well, do note that I made the case upthread that Jerry Brown would not have let these assholes do this when he was mayor of Oakland. I don’t think he’s changed in that regard. He does believe in the rule of law.
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ReamWorks SKG Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:18:44pm |
re: #148 Gus 802
Because he appointed most of the people currently on the Board of the Port of Oakland, and he’s not acting in his position as AG to prosecute those who restrict legal trade in the Port of Oakland.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:19:06pm |
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:20:41pm |
re: #145 reuven
I haven’t gone to the SF Gay Pride Parade in 15 years. Why? It saddens me to see them allow groups carrying “Israel—OUT OF PALESTINE” banners to march in the parade. Especially since Homosexuality is punishable by DEATH under Hamas law, and that Israel is the only country in the mid-east that guarantees some legal protection for gays and lesbians. Basically the SF gays are allowing a group to march in their parade that advocates death for gays.
Yes. Cognitive dissonance. Last year, the parade was crashed by some jerks chanting “Intifada, intifada”. Apparently the San Francisco JCRC knew this was a possibility but decided not to keep the parade crashers out in order to “maintain the peace.” That’s why this year SFVoice4Israel is marching on its own - last year all the Jewish/Zionist orgs marched in one huge contingent. When we found out that SF JCRC purposely took no action to keep the anti-Zionist crashers out, we were infuriated. Par for the course though. The JCRC also downplayed the Port of Oakland thing and discouraged any pro-Israel groups from attending.
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Racer X Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:21:36pm |
re: #141 webevintage
As much as I love Freddie Mercury I think I like this version of the song that Brian May did a few years ago:
[Video]
Beautiful!
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:22:48pm |
re: #157 reuven
Because he appointed most of the people currently on the Board of the Port of Oakland, and he’s not acting in his position as AG to prosecute those who restrict legal trade in the Port of Oakland.
We’re talking what? A matter of hours or days? For the AG to act on something like that would require a prolonged situation and he can’t be on call to take legal action at the flick of a switch. Eventually, the ship was unloaded:
Israeli ship unloads after flotilla raid protest
The Associated Press
Posted: 06/21/2010 10:34:43 AM PDT
Updated: 06/21/2010 10:34:43 AM PDT
OAKLAND, Calif.—Workers at the Port of Oakland are unloading an Israeli ship after demonstrators managed to postpone their work for 24 hours.
Protesters picketed at the Port of Oakland to prevent the incoming ship from being unloaded on Sunday. The dock’s day shift of longshoremen did not cross the picket line.
International Longshore and Warehouse Union Local 10 business agent Frank Gaskin said workers began unloading the Israeli Zim Lines ship at 8:00 Monday morning.
The picketers were protesting Israel’s raid of a Gaza-bound international flotilla that left nine pro-Palestinian activists dead in May. Israel has eased the blockade under intense international pressure.
Oakland police said no demonstrators were arrested.
There you have it. 24 hours. I think it’s unreasonable to expect that he would have done anything about this. I also think trying to attach blame to him for having appointed Port of Oakland board members that would be subject to fact checking.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:23:22pm |
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Nekama Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:24:51pm |
re: #163 Varek Raith
Did you expect CNN and the NY Times to report it?
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:25:04pm |
re: #159 eclectic infidel
Apparently the San Francisco JCRC knew this was a possibility but decided not to keep the parade crashers out in order to “maintain the peace.”
Are you sure it wasn’t just the same philosophy that is seen in other areas, where if they bulk up the numbers it’s “see no evil, hear no evil”?
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ReamWorks SKG Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:26:50pm |
re: #162 Gus 802
Eventually, the ship was unloaded:
!טוב מאוד
Maybe those צה”ל / IDF T-shirts and hats I ordered last week will now arrive!
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Varek Raith Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:27:25pm |
re: #165 Nekama
Did you expect CNN and the NY Times to report it?
I consider anything that is favorable of Geert Wilders and is anti-science to be full of shit.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:27:34pm |
re: #167 reuven
!טוב מאוד
Maybe those צה”ל / IDF T-shirts and hats I ordered last week will now arrive!
:)
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:32:33pm |
I think this article is relevant to the topic at hand:
Obama and the War against Israel
No other country in the world faces an array of existential threats such as the nation of Israel confronts daily. The world’s only Jewish state is also its most precarious. Geographically tiny, Israel is surrounded by theocracies that reject its very existence as a “nakba” — a catastrophe — and call for its destruction. To carry out this malignant ambition, anti-Israel Islamists have mobilized three rocket-wielding armies, sworn to wipe Israel from the face of the earth.
First and most aggressive among them is the Gaza-based Hamas, a fanatical religious party committed in its official charter to obliterating Israel and killing its Jews. Hamas is the creation of the Muslim Brotherhood, the inspirer of al-Qaeda and the global Islamic jihad, whose official motto declares: “Death in the service of Allah is our highest aspiration.” In Gaza, Hamas has created a terrorist state and a national death cult whose path is martyrdom and whose goal is openly proclaimed: “O, our children: The Jews — brothers of the apes, assassins of the prophets, bloodsuckers, warmongers — are murdering you, depriving you of life after having plundered your homeland and your homes. Only Islam can break the Jews and destroy their dream.”
SNIP
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:34:50pm |
re: #166 Naso Tang
Are you sure it wasn’t just the same philosophy that is seen in other areas, where if they bulk up the numbers it’s “see no evil, hear no evil”?
Nope. The JCRC didn’t want to make waves with anyone in the opposition, and besides the crashers literally walked into the parade at the VERY END of the contingent, with enough distance that the huge blog of people marching forward wouldn’t notice them. Of course we noticed them, because we had been tipped off by an “infiltrator” on the other side that members of QUIT were going to crash the contingent. What we didn’t know at the time was that the JCRC had ignored the same warning. They even told us a day or so before the parade that they had taken care of the threat. Liars, the lot of ‘em.
I even remember complaining out loud, after the parade, to a member of the Progressive Jewish Alliance, who had the audacity to tell me, (I’m not making this up) “Being inclusive is all about the love, man.”
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:35:22pm |
re: #172 Bagua
I never trusted that little rat.
Well he’s clear now but the DEA still checks up on him occasionally.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:36:14pm |
re: #170 Nekama
What sources do you trust?
Alone?
None.
What I do is read from various different sources. The truth tends to be in the middle.
American Thinker is too far into its AGW and evolution denial to merit me taking them seriously.
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Nekama Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:36:27pm |
re: #171 Dark_Falcon
Good thing Gaza’s getting a few hundred million from US taxpayers. Wouldn’t want to upset the longshoremen in Oakland.
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swamprat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:37:37pm |
re: #161 Nekama
I doubt this. I would like to believe this could have come out before the election… Not that it would have mattered. Reagan’s “teflon” did not come close to Barriware.™
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:37:47pm |
re: #176 Nekama
Good thing Gaza’s getting a few hundred million from US taxpayers. Wouldn’t want to upset the longshoremen in Oakland.
900 million. Thanks Mr President.
/
Come 2012, if I have to write in a candidate, I will.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:37:55pm |
re: #173 eclectic infidel
Nope. The JCRC didn’t want to make waves with anyone in the opposition, and besides the crashers literally walked into the parade at the VERY END of the contingent, with enough distance that the huge blog of people marching forward wouldn’t notice them. Of course we noticed them, because we had been tipped off by an “infiltrator” on the other side that members of QUIT were going to crash the contingent. What we didn’t know at the time was that the JCRC had ignored the same warning. They even told us a day or so before the parade that they had taken care of the threat. Liars, the lot of ‘em.
I even remember complaining out loud, after the parade, to a member of the Progressive Jewish Alliance, who had the audacity to tell me, (I’m not making this up) “Being inclusive is all about the love, man.”
Loving and tolerating those who enable people who want to kill you is not being good, its being suicidal. Those who shout “Intifada!” are calling for the murder of Jews.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:38:26pm |
re: #179 Dark_Falcon
Loving and tolerating those who enable people who want to kill you is not being good, its being suicidal. Those who shout “Intifada!” are calling for the murder of Jews.
QFT.
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Nekama Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:39:24pm |
re: #175 Varek Raith
Agreed. Unfortunately some topics will get precious little coverage in the MSM.
I didn’t google any denials of Obama’s involvement with the New Party. Mostly just virtual shoulder shrugs.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:41:48pm |
re: #179 Dark_Falcon
Loving and tolerating those who enable people who want to kill you is not being good, its being suicidal. Those who shout “Intifada!” are calling for the murder of Jews.
Yes. It’s sickening.
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swamprat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:42:05pm |
re: #181 Nekama
Exactly. He could have robbed banks and personally offed and hid Jimmy Hoffa’s body, and it wouldn’t have made a differerence.
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ReamWorks SKG Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:42:19pm |
re: #180 Varek Raith
This is a problem a lot of gay groups have. They think they have to include EVERYONE. IMHO, you can be more inclusive by making your focus narrower. Only allow groups that advocate equal rights for same-sex couples. This means also keep out (for example) the “legalize marijuana” folks, etc, no matter how much you may agree with their cause.
I mentioned in another thread today the problem I had forming a neighborhood group to oppose a Poll Tax proposed by the Cupertino Union School District. I wanted to form a group that had one item on its agenda: to oppose this one tax. What I got were a lot of Tea-Party-conspiracy nuts.
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Nekama Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:42:53pm |
re: #177 swamprat
I doubt this. I would like to believe this could have come out before the election… Not that it would have mattered. Reagan’s “teflon” did not come close to Barriware.™
Nothing comes close to Barriware. The guy prayed with Wright, marched with Farrakhan, dined with Khallidi, and still got elected.
Baghdad Bob could have run against McCain and Palin - following the Bush disaster - and carried the day.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:43:38pm |
re: #181 Nekama
Agreed. Unfortunately some topics will get precious little coverage in the MSM.
I didn’t google any denials of Obama’s involvement with the New Party. Mostly just virtual shoulder shrugs.
Sorry if I came of as hostile.
*Stupid SVN won’t commit an update to the stoopid server*
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ReamWorks SKG Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:44:34pm |
re: #186 Varek Raith
*Stupid SVN won’t commit an update to the stoopid server*
switch to “git”. You’ll be much happier!
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Varek Raith Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:45:47pm |
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swamprat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:46:46pm |
re: #185 Nekama
We could solve the energy crisis by patenting this new anti-friction additive; Slicker than slickwilly, less friction than Reagan-teflon….
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:47:49pm |
re: #185 Nekama
Nothing comes close to Barriware. The guy prayed with Wright, marched with Farrakhan, dined with Khallidi, and still got elected.
Baghdad Bob could have run against McCain and Palin - following the Bush disaster - and carried the day.
Agreed. After the Lehman Brothers disaster of September, it’s unlikely the Dems could have lost regardless of who they ran. The public wanted to vote “not Bush”.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:48:46pm |
re: #190 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. After the Lehman Brothers disaster of September, it’s unlikely the Dems could have lost regardless of who they ran. The public wanted to vote “not Bush”.
Don’t blame me!
I voted McCain!
:P
:D
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:49:27pm |
OK, I checked but stopped after a certain number. The top 4 Port of Oakland Commissioners (or big cheese) were all picked by Mayor Dellums:
Victor Uno
James W. Head, 1st Vice President
Margaret Gordon, 2nd Vice President
Pamela Calloway
The Oakland Code of Ordinances regarding Port Commissioners reads as follows:
ARTICLE VII - PORT OF OAKLAND
Section 702. Organization, Terms of Office. The Board of Port Commissioners shall consist of seven (7) members nominated by the Mayor and appointed by the Council for a term of four (4) years. Members in office at the time this section takes effect shall continue in office until their successors are appointed and qualified. For terms commencing July 10, 1969, two (2) members shall be appointed to fill the positions expiring upon that date, and two (2) additional members shall be appointed to bring the membership of said Board to seven (7); provided, that the terms of such two additional members shall be for such original duration, in no event to exceed four years, as will insofar as practicable permit appointment at the end of subsequent terms of office of members, of either one or two members.
I would say this put Jerry Brown very much outside the sphere of influence.
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Nekama Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:49:56pm |
re: #186 Varek Raith
No worries. I think you were among those who have posted about nuance, context, and shades-of-grey.
Too often we get caught up in shooting the messenger without examining the message. I’ve read stuff in The Nation or Pat Buchanan’s essays that I agree with.
You are right that we need to consult multiple sources and form our own opinions. Just because someone we usually like writes or says something doesn’t mean we’ve got to agree with it.
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Nekama Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:51:32pm |
re: #191 Varek Raith
Me too. But really had to hold my nose to do it.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:52:35pm |
re: #196 reuven
Ok! I stand corrected!
If I keep that up I’ll have to see about getting on Jerry Brown’s payroll.
/
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:54:54pm |
I posted this under General because of the multi disciplinary approach, both economically and scientifically on the future state of the US due to AGW.
Please go upstairs and ding this up so it gets attention. It is about as useful a resource for a non-technical person as there is on the subject.
This is the third revised draft of a multi agency government report on climate impacts in the United States of America. This draft was compiled in Apr 2009.
For those looking for an easy to read and very thorough look at AGW and its impacts right here in the USA, you will not find a better document. There are hundreds of very informative graphs, and careful easy to read explanations. It is written on a level that even a politician in congress could understand.
For more technical information, there are over 500 references in the bibliography, comprising the work of tens of thousands of scientists. I heartily invite you to track down any of those papers for more detailed information.
Because of the political nature of this document - out and out mortality predictions are to be inferred by the intelligent reader, by piecing the information together. However, all the pieces are there to show that many millions of Americans are projected to perish as a result of a “business as usual” scenario.
Some of the agencies involved are:
NASA
NOAA
NSF
EPA
Dept Interior
Dept of Defense
Dept of Energy
Dept of Health
Dept of Commerce
Dept of State
Office of the President
[Link: www.climatescience.gov…]
The home page of the U.S. Climate Change Science Program also has many other useful reports written on a non technical level.
[Link: www.climatescience.gov…]
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:56:30pm |
re: #199 LudwigVanQuixote
Which post shall we upding, Sir?
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:57:09pm |
re: #75 MandyManners
I made a comment about wondering whom the ILWU supported in 2008.
Although I suspect ILWU of having known more about this than they’re saying, I would like to point out that they cited safety concerns, and it was the protesters who appear to have put the ‘support’ spin on it.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:58:08pm |
re: #201 Floral Giraffe
Which post shall we upding, Sir?
Important Government Report: Global Climate Change Impacts in the United States
It is in the general section.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:58:13pm |
re: #192 Gus 802
Good find Gus. That means that shithead Dellums is indeed the one who should catch the blame. I won’t give Ron Dellums the benefit of the doubt, since he used such doubt up shilling for Castro and Maurice Bishop back in 1983.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:59:01pm |
re: #201 Floral Giraffe
Which post shall we upding, Sir?
And thank you. You are a doll. This is the one for everyone who really wants to know what is expected to happen in basic terms as of the most current projections in a comprehensive manner.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:59:15pm |
re: #83 MandyManners
True but, how far will the FCBHO Administration to produce that out-come?
Does the man perhaps not have enough on his plate already without being accused of being complicit in the nuking of Tel Aviv (God forbid)?
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:59:31pm |
re: #202 SanFranciscoZionist
Although I suspect ILWU of having known more about this than they’re saying, I would like to point out that they cited safety concerns, and it was the protesters who appear to have put the ‘support’ spin on it.
The usual suspects showed up:
[Link: www.flickr.com…]
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 9:59:51pm |
re: #204 LudwigVanQuixote
Important Government Report: Global Climate Change Impacts in the United States
It is in the general section.
Found and updinged.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:00:55pm |
re: #94 MandyManners
With all due respect, you need to get a clue. The ILWU is a Prog front. As such, it is anti-Israel.
With all due respect…
…never mind. I don’t have the patience for this crap this evening.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:01:10pm |
re: #206 LudwigVanQuixote
And thank you. You are a doll. This is the one for everyone who really wants to know what is expected to happen in basic terms as of the most current projections in a comprehensive manner.
The effort that you are putting into education, is greatly admired, by some. I am one of them! Truly, the way to change the world is to teach people what changes are in store, with or without action.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:01:44pm |
re: #208 Gus 802
The usual suspects showed up:
[Link: www.flickr.com…]
I’m surprised Code Pink didn’t show up, given how they love attention.
/spits
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:02:14pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:04:11pm |
re: #152 eclectic infidel
At counter-demos we always make sure to have American flags flying along side Israel’s. It’s a lovely site, especially on a windy day, a sea of blue and white with an intermixing of red/white/& blue.
It’s a pretty sight, and it aggravates the opposition. Not that they need much riling up.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:05:24pm |
re: #159 eclectic infidel
Yes. Cognitive dissonance. Last year, the parade was crashed by some jerks chanting “Intifada, intifada”. Apparently the San Francisco JCRC knew this was a possibility but decided not to keep the parade crashers out in order to “maintain the peace.” That’s why this year SFVoice4Israel is marching on its own - last year all the Jewish/Zionist orgs marched in one huge contingent. When we found out that SF JCRC purposely took no action to keep the anti-Zionist crashers out, we were infuriated. Par for the course though. The JCRC also downplayed the Port of Oakland thing and discouraged any pro-Israel groups from attending.
Not so happy with JCRC at the moment. Then again, I’ve never been really happy with JCRC, so I don’t know why this moment should be any different.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:07:02pm |
re: #173 eclectic infidel
They even told us a day or so before the parade that they had taken care of the threat. Liars, the lot of ‘em.
I’m starting to notice a pattern.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:07:13pm |
re: #214 SanFranciscoZionist
…it aggravates the opposition. Not that they need much riling up.
True, that. They come prepared for a fight. Usually as I approach the staging area there’s a minor discomfort in my stomach, knowing full well that the other side is itching for conflict.
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swamprat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:07:27pm |
re: #199 LudwigVanQuixote
I don’t know you from Adam. Never met you. Don’t have any idea what kind of person you are…. I knew Micheal Mann as a child. He was an honorable person. I would have no qualms loaning him money.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:08:27pm |
re: #190 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. After the Lehman Brothers disaster of September, it’s unlikely the Dems could have lost regardless of who they ran. The public wanted to vote “not Bush”.
Agreed, and I think it was so long before Lehman Brothers went squoogly.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:08:37pm |
Recipe for a lovely drive home:
1 part zero traffic.
3 parts windy road
1 part 350Z with Bose sound system
The following song playing at full volume:
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:08:49pm |
re: #191 Varek Raith
Don’t blame me!
I voted McCain!
:P
:D
No one blames you, Varek. You did what any good Sith would…
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:10:26pm |
re: #217 eclectic infidel
True, that. They come prepared for a fight. Usually as I approach the staging area there’s a minor discomfort in my stomach, knowing full well that the other side is itching for conflict.
It’s intense.
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Bagua Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:10:57pm |
re: #200 Nekama
Goodnight all.
Such a pleasure to read your thoughts again on these pages, Nekama. Goodnight and thank you for stopping by.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:12:56pm |
re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist
I’m starting to notice a pattern.
It’s something that frustrates me and boggles my mind at the same time, and not just in relation to the JCRC either. Maybe we can never catch up to the other side with respect to funding, networking, and pure passion, but why on Earth must there be so much disorganization and an glaringly obvious lack of communication among pro-Israel organizations and groups? I don’t get it.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:13:11pm |
re: #218 swamprat
I don’t know you from Adam. Never met you. Don’t have any idea what kind of person you are… I knew Micheal Mann as a child. He was an honorable person. I would have no qualms loaning him money.
I like Mike a lot too.
His work is referred to as well in this report.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:14:28pm |
re: #224 eclectic infidel
It’s something that frustrates me and boggles my mind at the same time, and not just in relation to the JCRC either. Maybe we can never catch up to the other side with respect to funding, networking, and pure passion, but why on Earth must there be so much disorganization and an glaringly obvious lack of communication among pro-Israel organizations and groups? I don’t get it.
Because with we Jews, there are always more chiefs than Indians.
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swamprat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:16:21pm |
re: #218 swamprat
What I am saying is, though I don’t Know you LVQ, Mann’s entrance into this equation places me squarely on the Global Warming side… and I don’t give a crap how they spin his emails.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:16:48pm |
re: #224 eclectic infidel
It’s something that frustrates me and boggles my mind at the same time, and not just in relation to the JCRC either. Maybe we can never catch up to the other side with respect to funding, networking, and pure passion, but why on Earth must there be so much disorganization and an glaringly obvious lack of communication among pro-Israel organizations and groups? I don’t get it.
JCRC is about controlling the message and to some extent, controlling the community and who has access. Grassroots groups, especially ones that may not agree to play by the rules, annoy them.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:18:49pm |
re: #219 SanFranciscoZionist
Agreed, and I think it was so long before Lehman Brothers went squoogly.
I’m not sure. I think McCain could have won, absent that event, had he picked a better VP nom and been a bit more aggressive.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:22:35pm |
re: #229 Dark_Falcon
I’m not sure. I think McCain could have won, absent that event, had he picked a better VP nom and been a bit more aggressive.
Possibly. I think the voter fatigue from the Bush administration was a major point against him, something that maybe nothing could have been done about. I think Palin was one misstep, and the economic tumble sure didn’t help.
You can point at a whole bunch of things that might have changed things, but I honestly don’t know if he had a chance going on.
Hard to tell.
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Bagua Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:23:21pm |
re: #229 Dark_Falcon
I’m not sure. I think McCain could have won, absent that event, had he picked a better VP nom and been a bit more aggressive.
Now we look to the future. November elections are looming and hope and change are in the air!
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darthstar Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:24:15pm |
re: #229 Dark_Falcon
I’m not sure. I think McCain could have won, absent that event, had he picked a better VP nom and been a bit more aggressive.
Ways McCain could have won (all of these together *might* have helped him win):
1. Lieberman/Romney/Pawlenty/Crist as VP instead of Palin
2. Running on a campaign of bipartisanship and change.(i.e abandoning the GOP base, but doing it honestly)
3. Hillary as his opponent.
4. A strong stand against continuing the Iraqi occupation.
Instead, McCain sucked up to Bush, pretended everything was peachy (“The fundamentals of the economy are strong” ring a bell? This was said while hundreds of thousands of people were losing their jobs every month and foreclosures were on the rise)
oh, and 5. Not “suspending” his campaign when he was forced to admit the fundamentals of the economy weren’t strong in some lame effort to make it look like he actually DID put “Country First”…even Republicans I know were like, “What the fuck? Is he for real?”
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swamprat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:24:39pm |
re: #225 LudwigVanQuixote
We went to college together when we were children…And that will only make sense to him.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:25:46pm |
re: #231 Bagua
Now we look to the future. November elections are looming and hope and change are in the air!
RndPaul(), Sharron Angle, another wingnut in Colorado, Marco Rubio…of those four, Sharron Angle has the best chance of winning in the Senate. What is this “change” of which you speak?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:27:29pm |
re: #232 darthstar
Ways McCain could have won (all of these together *might* have helped him win):
1. Lieberman/Romney/Pawlenty/Crist as VP instead of Palin
2. Running on a campaign of bipartisanship and change.(i.e abandoning the GOP base, but doing it honestly)
3. Hillary as his opponent.
4. A strong stand against continuing the Iraqi occupation.Instead, McCain sucked up to Bush, pretended everything was peachy (“The fundamentals of the economy are strong” ring a bell? This was said while hundreds of thousands of people were losing their jobs every month and foreclosures were on the rise)
oh, and 5. Not “suspending” his campaign when he was forced to admit the fundamentals of the economy weren’t strong in some lame effort to make it look like he actually DID put “Country First”…even Republicans I know were like, “What the fuck? Is he for real?”
1, 3, and 5 work. 2 could not have worked. Had McCain abandoned his base, he would have lost anyway. 4 would not have happened period, for the simple reason that John McCain believed in the mission is Iraq and was not going to propose anything other than victory. Just my 2 cents.
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Bagua Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:28:44pm |
re: #234 darthstar
RndPaul(), Sharron Angle, another wingnut in Colorado, Marco Rubio…of those four, Sharron Angle has the best chance of winning in the Senate. What is this “change” of which you speak?
A couple of additional Republican senators, just enough for a safe filibuster. That is the change of which I speak.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:29:33pm |
re: #235 Dark_Falcon
1, 3, and 5 work. 2 could not have worked. Had McCain abandoned his base, he would have lost anyway. 4 would not have happened period, for the simple reason that John McCain believed in the mission is Iraq and was not going to propose anything other than victory. Just my 2 cents.
John McCain believes in John McCain. Beyond that, it’s all situational. That much I’ve learned from him these past three years.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:30:07pm |
re: #236 Bagua
A couple of additional Republican senators, just enough for a safe filibuster. That is the change of which I speak.
I see a 3-6 seat pickup, myself. Mark Kirk being one of the new GOP Senators, of course.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:31:42pm |
re: #236 Bagua
A couple of additional Republican senators, just enough for a safe filibuster. That is the change of which I speak.
So you don’t want change, you just want the power to shut down the Senate for two more years so you can make the President look like a failure in 2012…well, if that makes you feel better. But voting for the ability to cripple the Senate isn’t exactly voting for change. It’s voting for more of the same shit we’ve been dealing with for the last decade or so, except the Republicans will filibuster their mothers if they think it’ll win them a vote, based on the number of filibusters they’ve threatened and/or used since 2006.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:33:53pm |
re: #238 Dark_Falcon
I see a 3-6 seat pickup, myself. Mark Kirk being one of the new GOP Senators, of course.
Kirk is self destructing. His lies about his Viet Nam service(the fictional award he got, his ‘misstatements about serving in theatre’ etc), his comments about his experience teaching (one semester at a small schoolhouse in Ithaca), and today he actually physically RAN away from reporters at a joint function with his Democratic counterpart. He’s going full Palin. Where are the other five seats coming from?
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:34:39pm |
re: #226 LudwigVanQuixote
Because with we Jews, there are always more chiefs than Indians.
*nods* Someone (Jewish) who I was talking to about my aforementioned frustration, said something to the effect of, “if you have two Jews in a room, you’ll have at least four different opinions.”
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Bagua Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:37:05pm |
re: #240 darthstar
So you don’t want change, you just want the power to shut down the Senate for two more years so you can make the President look like a failure in 2012…well, if that makes you feel better. But voting for the ability to cripple the Senate isn’t exactly voting for change. It’s voting for more of the same shit we’ve been dealing with for the last decade or so, except the Republicans will filibuster their mothers if they think it’ll win them a vote, based on the number of filibusters they’ve threatened and/or used since 2006.
Whatever you want to call it, however you want to spin it. I don’t want the Obama agenda. I’ve seen enough and want it stopped. Assuming the Republicans do pick up at least a few seats in the fall, Obama will be forced to seek at least some bi-partisan cooperation.
Of course I also want to see Obama replaced in 2012.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:39:34pm |
re: #243 Bagua
Whatever you want to call it, however you want to spin it. I don’t want the Obama agenda. I’ve seen enough and want it stopped. Assuming the Republicans do pick up at least a few seats in the fall, Obama will be forced to seek at least some bi-partisan cooperation.
Of course I also want to see Obama replaced in 2012.
So you’d vote against Reagan or Nixon if they were running today…
Okay, I’m too tired to get into this right now…time for bed. Good night.
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Bagua Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:41:37pm |
re: #244 darthstar
So you’d vote against Reagan or Nixon if they were running today…
Okay, I’m too tired to get into this right now…time for bed. Good night.
Nope, Reagan and Nixon would be a welcome replacement. Micky Mouse could run against Obama at this point and gain my full endorsement.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:44:01pm |
re: #232 darthstar
oh, and 5. Not “suspending” his campaign when he was forced to admit the fundamentals of the economy weren’t strong in some lame effort to make it look like he actually DID put “Country First”…even Republicans I know were like, “What the fuck? Is he for real?”
That was when I started to feel as though the campaign was veering totally out of control.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:45:45pm |
re: #245 Bagua
Nope, Reagan and Nixon would be a welcome replacement. Micky Mouse could run against Obama at this point and gain my full endorsement.
Wasn’t his creator a communist…?
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:48:01pm |
re: #246 SanFranciscoZionist
That was when I started to feel as though the campaign was veering totally out of control.
Yeah, I voted for McCain. In January I finally listened to the Palin-Couric interview and felt like a major putz. I actually listened to Obama the most and always liked his personality.
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Bagua Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:49:24pm |
re: #247 JasonA
Wasn’t his creator a communist…?
Nothing could put me off Mickey at this point. I’ll excuse anything if he’s the candidate.
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iceweasel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:49:53pm |
re: #113 MandyManners
PROG ALERT!
re: #117 MandyManners
Facts suck at times.
re: #90 MandyManners
Oopsie! I just typed on “auto”.
Sure you did.
re: #83 MandyManners
True but, how far will the FCBHO Administration to produce that out-come?
I’m sure this was another ‘mistake’ of yours, just like your little Rachel Corries jokes were ‘mistakes’ too.
Is it really too much to ask that you quit it with that acronym for the POTUS, Mandy? Especially as Charles has mentioned it to you before?
Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that any of your behaviour is a ‘mistake’. Since you keep on with it.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:52:47pm |
re: #250 iceweasel
I’m late and had a bad day. What’s the FC stand for? I can’t figure it out.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:53:19pm |
re: #251 JasonA
I’m late and had a bad day. What’s the FC stand for? I can’t figure it out.
F*cking Communist
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Bagua Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:53:35pm |
re: #251 JasonA
I’m late and had a bad day. What’s the FC stand for? I can’t figure it out.
FC = Financial Conservative
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Bagua Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:55:15pm |
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:55:19pm |
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Bagua Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:55:47pm |
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:56:40pm |
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iceweasel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:56:40pm |
re: #251 JasonA
I’m late and had a bad day. What’s the FC stand for? I can’t figure it out.
“Fucking Commie Bastard Barack Hussein Obama” is the charming and intelligent Miss Manners’ preferred cognomen for our POTUS, despite Charles deleting comments that use it and despite his request that people knock it off.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:57:34pm |
re: #258 iceweasel
“Fucking Commie Bastard Barack Hussein Obama” is the charming and intelligent Miss Manners’ preferred cognomen for our POTUS, despite Charles deleting comments that use it and despite his request that people knock it off.
The “Manners” part is for irony, I think…
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iceweasel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:59:34pm |
re: #259 JasonA
The “Manners” part is for irony, I think…
So was ‘charming and intelligent’ in my comment.
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Bagua Mon, Jun 21, 2010 10:59:35pm |
re: #257 Gus 802
He was last seen driving in the direction of Burning Man. Nope, I have not heard.
Oh, that’s nothing to worry about. Cato is prone to these Fear and Loathing styled excursions. He is in his natural element. In search of something primordial and untranslatable.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:01:06pm |
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Kruk Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:03:59pm |
Aaaaaand the GOP crazy fail continues…..
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]
Texans had better get used to their sex lives getting a lot more vanilla. As someone pointed out, “sodomy” covers many sexual activities, not just gay sex.
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iceweasel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:04:32pm |
“Let me be clear…”
I don’t buy for one second that it’s an accident, anymore than the avatar was or her repeated references to Corrie were.
As with the avatar, she’ll keep it up until that phrase is used to smear LGF by some hater. Maybe it’ll wind up in wikipedia’s entry for LGF and dog Charles for years, just like the loathsome nickname for Corrie did.
Way to go, Mandy!
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:07:24pm |
re: #263 Kruk
Aaaand the GOP crazy fail continues…
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]
Texans had better get used to their sex lives getting a lot more vanilla. As someone pointed out, “sodomy” covers many sexual activities, not just gay sex.
Oh for fucks sake.
Basically, if someone were to help a gay couple get married, “the GOP would like to see that person serve mandatory jail time.”
So these are the people that need to be removed from society? Jail time? Get real, Texas.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:12:05pm |
re: #265 JasonA
So these are the people that need to be removed from society? Jail time? Get real, Texas.
You can read it all in the 2010 Texas Taliban Platform.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:12:44pm |
Huckabee And The Gay Marriage ‘Ick Factor’
“I do believe that God created male and female and intended for marriage to be the relationship of the two opposite sexes,” Huckabee said in a recent New Yorker profile. “Male and female are biologically compatible to have a relationship. We can get into the ick factor, but the fact is two men in a relationship, two women in a relationship, biologically, that doesn’t work the same.”
Next on his agenda: nose pickers.
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Kruk Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:13:47pm |
re: #265 JasonA
So these are the people that need to be removed from society? Jail time? Get real, Texas.
Not to mention that the Supreme Court has already struck down bans on certain types of sexual activity between consenting adults as unconstitutional. (The real unconstitutional, not the “People I don’t like winning elections and passing laws” type of unconstitutional the wingnuts moan about.) Seriously, first wanting to change the 14th Ammendment and now this? So much for “upholding the Constitution.”
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:14:05pm |
re: #266 Gus 802
Why it’s got:
Anti-vaxers
Birthers
Creationisn
Faux Patriotism
Homophobia
Luddites
Militias
You name it!
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iceweasel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:14:47pm |
re: #267 JasonA
Huckabee And The Gay Marriage ‘Ick Factor’
Next on his agenda: nose pickers.
People should check out the backstory behind huckabee’s release of Wayne Dumond.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:15:01pm |
re: #267 JasonA
Huckabee And The Gay Marriage ‘Ick Factor’
Next on his agenda: nose pickers.
Quickly followed by ass-scratchers and “adjusters.” Half the MLB will be in violation of the law…
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:15:14pm |
re: #265 JasonA
So these are the people that need to be removed from society? Jail time? Get real, Texas.
One of the comments
19. belaccifer lacca says:
I fear Debbie will do Dallas no more…
June 21st, 2010 at 2:59 pm
heh.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:16:10pm |
New GOP motto: Country Your Bedroom First.
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Kruk Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:16:56pm |
re: #266 Gus 802
You can read it all in the 2010 Texas Taliban Platform.
Oh, my bad. Upholding the Constitution is number 1 on their list.
Except for the bits they don’t like. *Facepalm*
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:17:55pm |
re: #269 Gus 802
Patriot Act – We urge review and revision of those portions of the USA Patriot Act, and related executive and military
orders and directives that erode constitutional rights and essential liberties of citizens.
Funny how people are scared of this now…
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Kruk Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:18:19pm |
re: #273 JasonA
New GOP motto:
CountryYour Bedroom First.
You’re either with us or you’re with the terrori fellaters
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:18:19pm |
re: #267 JasonA
Huckabee And The Gay Marriage ‘Ick Factor’
Next on his agenda: nose pickers.
What a hick. To think he could have become president. Maybe if he didn’t spend all his free time fantasizing about gay sex he would be so concerned about it.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:19:15pm |
re: #277 Gus 802
What a hick. To think he could have become president. Maybe if he didn’t spend all his free time fantasizing about gay sex he would be so concerned about it.
Know what’s scary? I actually find him very likable. In the sense that I think might like going to a barbecue with him or something.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:19:23pm |
re: #275 JasonA
Funny how people are scared of this now…
Yep. Questioning the Patriot Act during the Bush years was tantamount to treason! Now, not so much.
I wonder why that is?
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Kruk Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:19:30pm |
re: #275 JasonA
Funny how people are scared of this now…
It was fine as long as it was only going to be used against brown skinned people….
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:21:42pm |
re: #274 Kruk
Oh, my bad. Upholding the Constitution is number 1 on their list.
Except for the bits they don’t like. *Facepalm*
Guess I should have added faux-Constitutionalists. Typical though. This has fast become the party of Phyllis Schlafly and the Daughters of the American Revolution all over again.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:22:04pm |
re: #280 Kruk
It was fine as long as it was only going to be used against brown skinned people…
But not used by brown-skinned people!!!
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(Just a joke. I don’t think they’re all racists. Just blindly partisan.)
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iceweasel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:22:21pm |
re: #279 Gus 802
Yep. Questioning the Patriot Act during the Bush years was tantamount to treason! Now, not so much.
I wonder why that is?
Obviously because GWB was appointed by God to lead our Christian nation.
Obama, on the other hand, was merely elected by an overwhelming majority of the American people, and is— what was it again? Oh yes, a “fucking commie bastard.”
So you see, it’s all perfectly reasonable. /
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:22:33pm |
re: #281 Gus 802
Guess I should have added faux-Constitutionalists. Typical though. This has fast become the party of Phyllis Schlafly and the Daughters of the American Revolution all over again.
Looks a lot like Nancy Reagan to me.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:23:28pm |
re: #283 iceweasel
Obviously because GWB was appointed by God to lead our Christian nation.
Obama, on the other hand, was merely elected by an overwhelming majority of the American people, and is— what was it again? Oh yes, a “fucking commie bastard.”
So you see, it’s all perfectly reasonable. /
Yep. NASCAR Jesus™ could do no wrong.
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iceweasel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:24:35pm |
re: #285 Gus 802
Yep. NASCAR Jesus™ could do no wrong.
NASCAR jeebus! I love it!
OK, time for some booze. Look out!/
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:25:08pm |
re: #286 iceweasel
NASCAR jeebus! I love it!
OK, time for some booze. Look out!/
Time for some white lightning and George Jones!
Yeehaa!
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:25:08pm |
re: #286 iceweasel
NASCAR jeebus! I love it!
OK, time for some booze. Look out!/
God, I wish I had some alcohol in the house.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:26:59pm |
re: #284 JasonA
Looks a lot like Nancy Reagan to me.
We had to live through that throw back (Phyllis Schlafly) when she was running Stop ERA. Let me tell you, when I say throw back, I mean it. She was one of those that thought women should be at home barefoot and pregnant kind of deal.
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zora Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:27:10pm |
re: #288 JasonA
my kids are gone for two weeks and the hubby and i have moonshine. it’s like an early christmas.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:27:26pm |
re: #287 Gus 802
From that link before
Free Speech for the Clergy – We urge change of the Internal Revenue Code to allow a religious organization to address
issues without fear of losing its tax-exempt status. We call for repeal of requirements that religious organizations send
government any personal information about their contributors.
Yeah, you nailed it on head with “Texas Taliban.”
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:27:55pm |
re: #290 zora
my kids are gone for two weeks and the hubby and i have moonshine. it’s like an early christmas.
Maybe with a little Valentine’s Day thrown in? ;)
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:28:38pm |
re: #291 JasonA
From that link before
Yeah, you nailed it on head with “Texas Taliban.”
I missed that one. How in the world did they come up with that? I mean, all you have to do is say “I’m a church” and that’s it? You don’t need any proof?
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:30:38pm |
Oh my god, I think I love these people…
Driver Licenses – We propose that every Texas driver license shall indicate whether the driver is a U.S. citizen.
No such documentation shall be issued to anyone not legally in the country.
And then…
Real ID Act – As the Real ID Act effectively creates an unconstitutional and privacy-inhibiting national ID card, we hereby
call for its immediate repeal.
wtf?
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Kruk Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:31:10pm |
re: #289 Gus 802
We had to live through that throw back (Phyllis Schlafly) when she was running Stop ERA. Let me tell you, when I say throw back, I mean it. She was one of those that thought women should be at home barefoot and pregnant kind of deal.
Of course, in that sort of envoirnment, any woman who spoke out on social issues like Schlafly does would be at best ignored and at worst stoned. The stupid, it burns….
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:31:24pm |
re: #294 Gus 802
I missed that one. How in the world did they come up with that? I mean, all you have to do is say “I’m a church” and that’s it? You don’t need any proof?
Organized Religion is speshul.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:32:42pm |
re: #297 JasonA
Organized Religion is speshul.
Above the law!
Heck, I’m in the wrong line of work. Starting tomorrow I’m going to start the paperwork on the Church of Gus ©.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:33:39pm |
re: #298 Gus 802
Above the law!
Heck, I’m in the wrong line of work. Starting tomorrow I’m going to start the paperwork on the Church of Gus ©.
Alternate…
Church of Gus of Early Day Procrastinators ©
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:33:57pm |
re: #298 Gus 802
Above the law!
Heck, I’m in the wrong line of work. Starting tomorrow I’m going to start the paperwork on the Church of Gus ©.
Just don’t send anyone to my door and I’ll hold on to your little secret.
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Kruk Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:35:51pm |
re: #295 JasonA
Oh my god, I think I love these people…
wtf?
Heh. So, even though only people who are legal get driver’s licences, the license would still differentiate between citizens and non-citizens? Why, so the highway patrol can know which country to send the traffic tickets to? These people never think these things through, do they?
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swamprat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:35:59pm |
re: #279 Gus 802
Yep. Questioning the Patriot Act during the Bush years was tantamount to treason! Now, not so much.
I wonder why that is?
What a mystery. We used to have a lot of war protests.
Now, not so much.
Curious, that.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:36:07pm |
re: #300 JasonA
Just don’t send anyone to my door and I’ll hold on to your little secret.
Don’t worry. You’ll be able to see my Elders coming. They’ll be on unicycles.
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iceweasel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:37:12pm |
re: #288 JasonA
God, I wish I had some alcohol in the house.
Move to the city. I didn’t have any, five minutes later I did. :)
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:37:39pm |
re: #302 swamprat
What a mystery. We used to have a lot of war protests.
Now, not so much.Curious, that.
If I recall correctly the protests were much more about Iraq than Afghanistan, and it’s been winding down for a while now.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:37:48pm |
re: #305 iceweasel
Move to the city. I didn’t have any, five minutes later I did. :)
You just did a booze run? Nice. I had my supply all set.
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iceweasel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:39:00pm |
re: #307 Gus 802
You just did a booze run? Nice. I had my supply all set.
Yep! Out and back.
Lucky you..you have the nice stuff as I recall. whisky tonight?
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swamprat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:39:03pm |
re: #306 JasonA
If I recall correctly the protests were much more about Iraq than Afghanistan, and it’s been winding down for a while now.
I’m sure that’s it, then.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:39:07pm |
re: #306 JasonA
If I recall correctly the protests were much more about Iraq than Afghanistan, and it’s been winding down for a while now.
True that. Afghanistan was always the popular war. Well, at least it was. Even Neil Young openly supported it (to a certain extent) on several occasions.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:39:33pm |
re: #309 iceweasel
Yep! Out and back.
Lucky you..you have the nice stuff as I recall. whisky tonight?
Oh, it’s semi-cheapo Canadian Mist. It does the trick.
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iceweasel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:39:52pm |
re: #308 swamprat
Ooh. That “LEFT” a mark!
Well, Jason answered you pretty accurately there.
Go on. Maybe you can find something to post about Code Pink.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:40:04pm |
and assurance that each polling place has a distinctly marked and if possible separate location for Republican
and Democratic primary voting.
What the fuck is the point of this?
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iceweasel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:41:05pm |
re: #311 Gus 802
True that. Afghanistan was always the popular war. Well, at least it was. Even Neil Young openly supported it (to a certain extent) on several occasions.
Yeah, most of the people I knew (personally) who were against the Iraq war thought that we needed to be in Afghanistan, if anywhere.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:41:13pm |
re: #314 JasonA
and assurance that each polling place has a distinctly marked and if possible separate location for Republican
and Democratic primary voting.What the fuck is the point of this?
Hmmm, probably for people that can’t read. /
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Bagua Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:41:21pm |
re: #302 swamprat
What a mystery. We used to have a lot of war protests.
Now, not so much.Curious, that.
Dummy, the new President has a Nobel Peace Prize. It would be like protesting against Gandhi.
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swamprat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:41:24pm |
Sweet dreams, my partisan pals!
/both port and starboard…
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Kruk Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:42:38pm |
re: #314 JasonA
and assurance that each polling place has a distinctly marked and if possible separate location for Republican
and Democratic primary voting.What the fuck is the point of this?
Call me a cynic, but I think it would make it much easier for people to find out who belongs to which party. No more of that of unconstitutional “secret ballot” nonsense.
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swamprat Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:42:56pm |
re: #313 iceweasel
Well, Jason answered you pretty accurately there.
Go on. Maybe you can find something to post about Code Pink.
I find the flamingo flock a rather unifying fashion statement.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:43:27pm |
re: #317 Bagua
Dummy, the new President has a Nobel Peace Prize. It would be like protesting against Gandhi.
Wow, it’s almost as if people blamed the guy who started the bullshit war and protested the decision to start the bullshit war that was sold on a heaping pile of bullshit, instead of the guy who came in 5 years later to deal with the bullshit war.
Weird!
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iceweasel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:43:47pm |
re: #314 JasonA
and assurance that each polling place has a distinctly marked and if possible separate location for Republican
and Democratic primary voting.What the fuck is the point of this?
Maybe they’re worried about Democrats fucking with their primaries.
Oh wait, that was Dear Leader Rush, wasn’t it.
Hang on, I have a talking point over here under a pile of stuff…
Got it! ACOOORRRRN!!1! SEIU THUGS!1!
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:44:08pm |
Uh, actually. The anti-war protests haven’t stopped. They had several rather large ones not to ling ago. That’s a common misconception.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:44:36pm |
re: #305 iceweasel
Move to the city. I didn’t have any, five minutes later I did. :)
convenience store open until 2:30am with 400 beers stocked = win
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Bagua Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:45:00pm |
re: #321 WindUpBird
Wow, it’s almost as if people blamed the guy who started the bullshit war and protested the decision to start the bullshit war that was sold on a heaping pile of bullshit, instead of the guy who came in 5 years later to deal with the bullshit war.
Weird!
My arent you the cheerful one tonight.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:46:06pm |
re: #324 Gus 802
Uh, actually. The anti-war protests haven’t stopped. They had several rather large ones not to ling ago. That’s a common misconception.
They aren’t that big, though. Because, you know, America elected a guy who said he would reduce troops there and he has. I dunno. It kind of makes sense to me that we don’t see the protests like we used to.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:46:10pm |
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:46:50pm |
re: #317 Bagua
Dummy, the new President has a Nobel Peace Prize. It would be like protesting against Gandhi.
This is a valid point. With Obama in office, ANSWER has been having a heck of a time rounding up college bound morons to attend their rallies. The last couple SF rallies consisted almost entirely of various strains of communists, socialist worker party types, troofers, and of course the Arab jihadi kids. They have to list every grievance they can in order to bring out the crowds (anti-war, anti-Israel, anti-capitalism, anti-ICE, etc.).
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:46:53pm |
re: #326 Bagua
My arent you the cheerful one tonight.
Actually, I’m doing great! Got my Phil Hendrie and my awesome beer.
Just pushing back against the mindless talking points, it’s what I do :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:47:05pm |
re: #329 eclectic infidel
ANTI ICE, you hear that Iceweasel? :D
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:47:18pm |
re: #327 JasonA
They aren’t that big, though. Because, you know, America elected a guy who said he would reduce troops there and he has. I dunno. It kind of makes sense to me that we don’t see the protests like we used to.
Yeah. Again it was mostly because of Iraq. The draw down already started while Bush was president and the protests were subsiding by then.
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Kruk Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:47:26pm |
re: #325 WindUpBird
convenience store open until 2:30am with 400 beers stocked = win
No, fully stocked minibar and alcohol on the room service menu = win. :)
(I’m travelling to do some research interviews at the moment. University’s paying for the flights and hotel, but they won’t pay for the booze. Bastards.)
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:48:39pm |
OK, somehow this evolved into Obama vs. Bush. Yawn.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:48:57pm |
re: #331 WindUpBird
ANTI ICE, you hear that Iceweasel? :D
Heh.
Noooo. We like teh iceweasel. Nice iceweasel. *Pet* *pet*
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:49:18pm |
re: #269 Gus 802
Why it’s got:
Anti-vaxers
Birthers
Creationisn
Faux Patriotism
Homophobia
Luddites
MilitiasYou name it!
That’s pretty much Sharron Angle’s entire platform!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:49:57pm |
re: #333 Kruk
No, fully stocked minibar and alcohol on the room service menu = win. :)
(I’m travelling to do some research interviews at the moment. University’s paying for the flights and hotel, but they won’t pay for the booze. Bastards.)
Is the room service on the tab? Oh man, waffles at midnight, YES
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:50:10pm |
re: #334 Gus 802
OK, somehow this evolved into Obama vs. Bush. Yawn.
I’m trying to bring it back to waffles :D
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:50:44pm |
Or was that a Tu quoque?
Right wingers are protesting the Patriot Act because Obama’s president.
Left wingers aren’t protesting the war because Obama’s president.
Ergo, my point about the Patriot Act is invalid? Or! Obama’s fault.
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Kruk Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:50:49pm |
re: #336 WindUpBird
That’s pretty much Sharron Angle’s entire platform!
The trouble is that they’re usually all the same people. You’re never gonna win elections by getting the same person’s vote multiple times.
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:51:30pm |
re: #337 WindUpBird
Is the room service on the tab? Oh man, waffles at midnight, YES
You really get f*cked on the mini-bars in hotel rooms. Best to find a liquor store beforehand..’course that doesn’t help if you’re in the hotel room right now. Just sayin.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:51:58pm |
I’m also in a good mood because my favorite radio host has now returned to the airwaves internet. :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:52:22pm |
re: #339 iceweasel
Convenience stores that close are anti-ICE!
We have blue laws here, they stay open but they don’t sell beer past 2:30 am ;_;
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:53:05pm |
re: #342 eclectic infidel
You really get f*cked on the mini-bars in hotel rooms. Best to find a liquor store beforehand..’course that doesn’t help if you’re in the hotel room right now. Just sayin.
I don’t do hotel minibars, whenever I go to furry cons, I bring my own beer. No minibar is going to have Rochefort 10 or Aventinus Eisbock!
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Kruk Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:53:25pm |
re: #337 WindUpBird
Is the room service on the tab? Oh man, waffles at midnight, YES
Heh. No, unfortunately. (Well, actually, it’s probably a good thing, or I’d gain two kilos in two weeks.) I bought things like bread, cereal, lunch meat and fruit from a store nearby, and make my own meals rather than living on hotel food.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:53:32pm |
re: #341 Kruk
The trouble is that they’re usually all the same people. You’re never gonna win elections by getting the same person’s vote multiple times.
There’s only so much fringe!
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:53:36pm |
re: #339 iceweasel
Convenience stores that close are anti-ICE!
Last call for alcohol in this town is generally 10 PM. They still don’t sell booze or wine at supermarkets or convenience stores. Heck, they finally stopped the Blue Law a couple of years ago. Still glad we don’t have state liquor stores. I hate those places — you know like in Pennsylvania. It’s like getting booze from the DMV.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:55:11pm |
re: #346 Kruk
Heh. No, unfortunately. (Well, actually, it’s probably a good thing, or I’d gain two kilos in two weeks.) I bought things like bread, cereal, lunch meat and fruit from a store nearby, and make my own meals rather than living on hotel food.
Kilos? KILOS??? You yurapeean or somethin’?
///
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:55:32pm |
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Kruk Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:56:00pm |
re: #342 eclectic infidel
You really get f*cked on the mini-bars in hotel rooms. Best to find a liquor store beforehand..’course that doesn’t help if you’re in the hotel room right now. Just sayin.
Not neccessarily. I carry a big shoulder bag everywear for holding “research materials”. If I come back to the room with a couple of bottles of spirits, no-one will be the wiser. :)
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:56:04pm |
re: #348 Gus 802
Last call for alcohol in this town is generally 10 PM. They still don’t sell booze or wine at supermarkets or convenience stores. Heck, they finally stopped the Blue Law a couple of years ago. Still glad we don’t have state liquor stores. I hate those places — you know like in Pennsylvania. It’s like getting booze from the DMV.
A Government Takeover of our spirits…
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:56:21pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:56:27pm |
re: #348 Gus 802
Last call for alcohol in this town is generally 10 PM. They still don’t sell booze or wine at supermarkets or convenience stores. Heck, they finally stopped the Blue Law a couple of years ago. Still glad we don’t have state liquor stores. I hate those places — you know like in Pennsylvania. It’s like getting booze from the DMV.
We have state liquor stores here, and I go down to California often enough that I seethe with jealousy at my friends being able to just swing by safeway for cheap vodka.
But OTOH, we have fantastic beer available everywhere.
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Gus Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:57:30pm |
re: #354 WindUpBird
We have state liquor stores here, and I go down to California often enough that I seethe with jealousy at my friends being able to just swing by safeway for cheap vodka.
But OTOH, we have fantastic beer available everywhere.
Heck yeah. One stop shopping at the California Safeways. Not here. They just sell that 3.2 crap.
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Kruk Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:57:55pm |
re: #349 JasonA
Kilos? KILOS??? You yurapeean or somethin’?
///
Heh. Yep. We drive on the left, too. There’s just no help for us.
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iceweasel Mon, Jun 21, 2010 11:59:22pm |
re: #340 Gus 802
Or was that a Tu quoque?
Right wingers are protesting the Patriot Act because Obama’s president.
Left wingers aren’t protesting the war because Obama’s president.
Ergo, my point about the Patriot Act is invalid? Or! Obama’s fault.
Thing is, some people (civil libertarians) have always been mad about the Patriot Act and other Bush-era expansions of the executive branch power, and those people continue to be furious at Obama. Most of the best criticisms I’ve seen of Obama— best in the sense of cogent and thoughtful (and damning!)— are all coming from the left, because the right apparently has just checked out of the business of sane criticism.
Anyway, lots of people only cared about it when it was Bush, and don’t care about it under Obama. Similarly, the right ‘suddenly’ has concerns about it, but they’re also concerned about FEMA Camps, the Census, and the nonexistent plot to take away their guns, so there aren’t sensible criticisms of that on the right— it’s all mixed up with incoherent fantasy gibberish, and they don’t bother to explain why it was ok under Bush but not under Obama.
Finally— many civil libertarians and Obama supporters are shocked, shocked, that Obama would continue Bush-era policies in this regard— but in my opinion, they were wrong to expect Obama to behave differently. (I didn’t, and I voted for him anyway.)
The bottom line here is that people tend not to have problems with upsetting the system of checks and balances, dismantling civil liberties, and expanding the power of the executive branch— because everyone always believes that they or ‘their guy’ will only use that power for good. Every other bastard of course is suspect.
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Four More Tears Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:00:41am |
Alright folks, I need to get in the bed and hope I fall asleep. It’ll be a long day tomorrow. Thanks again for all the kind words upstairs.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:01:13am |
re: #358 JasonA
Alright folks, I need to get in the bed and hope I fall asleep. It’ll be a long day tomorrow. Thanks again for all the kind words upstairs.
Later Jason. Good luck to your mom.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:02:14am |
re: #358 JasonA
Alright folks, I need to get in the bed and hope I fall asleep. It’ll be a long day tomorrow. Thanks again for all the kind words upstairs.
Take care! good luck to you and your mom.
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Kruk Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:02:32am |
re: #358 JasonA
Goodnight, dude. All the best to you and your family.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:03:32am |
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Kruk Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:03:38am |
re: #357 iceweasel
The bottom line here is that people tend not to have problems with upsetting the system of checks and balances, dismantling civil liberties, and expanding the power of the executive branch— because everyone always believes that they or ‘their guy’ will only use that power for good. Every other bastard of course is suspect.
The problem, of course, is that the other bastards are going to win an election every now and then. Couldn’t agree with yiu more.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:04:49am |
re: #357 iceweasel
FEMA camps! Death panels! Internationalists! They’re going to take away our guns! The guns meme is the worst. Let’s see we’re almost on year 2 and haven’t seen one damn law limiting their possession or the 2nd Amendment. In fact, it’s gone the other way around with state laws allowing people to bring a gun into churches, bars, and saloon. In fact most have expanded concealed and open carry laws. Not satisfied with that they continue to make up stories trying to stir up fear in gun owners and non-owners alike.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:05:16am |
re: #357 iceweasel
Thing is, some people (civil libertarians) have always been mad about the Patriot Act and other Bush-era expansions of the executive branch power, and those people continue to be furious at Obama. Most of the best criticisms I’ve seen of Obama— best in the sense of cogent and thoughtful (and damning!)— are all coming from the left, because the right apparently has just checked out of the business of sane criticism.
Anyway, lots of people only cared about it when it was Bush, and don’t care about it under Obama. Similarly, the right ‘suddenly’ has concerns about it, but they’re also concerned about FEMA Camps, the Census, and the nonexistent plot to take away their guns, so there aren’t sensible criticisms of that on the right— it’s all mixed up with incoherent fantasy gibberish, and they don’t bother to explain why it was ok under Bush but not under Obama.
Finally— many civil libertarians and Obama supporters are shocked, shocked, that Obama would continue Bush-era policies in this regard— but in my opinion, they were wrong to expect Obama to behave differently. (I didn’t, and I voted for him anyway.)
The bottom line here is that people tend not to have problems with upsetting the system of checks and balances, dismantling civil liberties, and expanding the power of the executive branch— because everyone always believes that they or ‘their guy’ will only use that power for good. Every other bastard of course is suspect.
The truth right here. I voted for Obama because I thought he’d be a better president than McCain. it’s really that simple! I had no illusions that he’d magically give me a pony or reverse course when it came to executive power. Sometimes I wonder if some Americans would be happier with a king.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:07:09am |
re: #364 Gus 802
FEMA camps! Death panels! Internationalists! They’re going to take away our guns! The guns meme is the worst. Let’s see we’re almost on year 2 and haven’t seen one damn law limiting their possession or the 2nd Amendment. In fact, it’s gone the other way around with state laws allowing people to bring a gun into churches, bars, and saloon. In fact most have expanded concealed and open carry laws. Not satisfied with that they continue to make up stories trying to stir up fear in gun owners and non-owners alike.
Even a REALLY SMART friend of mine who’s a conservative believed the gun meme during the election :( But then he relaxed after the election when he realized it was nonsense.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:08:57am |
re: #365 WindUpBird
The truth right here. I voted for Obama because I thought he’d be a better president than McCain. it’s really that simple! I had no illusions that he’d magically give me a pony or reverse course when it came to executive power. Sometimes I wonder if some Americans would be happier with a king.
Yeah. No one comes out of their first national security meeting the same as they entered. Once they get briefed the come out of the room looking a bit pale.
Speaking of kings. There’s some political theory about how a large segment of populations are attracted towards benevolent dictators which is akin to a king. I believe that would be true even in the USA.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:10:46am |
re: #366 WindUpBird
Even a REALLY SMART friend of mine who’s a conservative believed the gun meme during the election :( But then he relaxed after the election when he realized it was nonsense.
I got a call from the NRA the other day. They’re still at it. She was talking a mile a minute and I was like “I support the 2nd Amendment but no I’m not interested in joining.” So, she was firing of the usual: internationalists, UN/United Nations, Obama, etc.
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boredtechindenver Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:11:44am |
re: #250 iceweasel
Mandy is easy to understand if you take her at her word that she used to be a member of CPUSA. Used to be.
As in ex-smokers can be the most virulent anti-smokers around. And also the least understanding of other peoples foibles and faults.
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Kruk Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:11:55am |
re: #367 Gus 802
Yeah. No one comes out of their first national security meeting the same as they entered. Once they get briefed the come out of the room looking a bit pale.
Speaking of kings. There’s some political theory about how a large segment of populations are attracted towards benevolent dictators which is akin to a king. I believe that would be true even in the USA.
I have a feeling it’s the same segement of the population who thinks most people are too stupid/self centred/entitled to vote. Not *themselves* of course, or their friends or their family, but all the others, well,….
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:13:24am |
re: #367 Gus 802
Yeah. No one comes out of their first national security meeting the same as they entered. Once they get briefed the come out of the room looking a bit pale.
Speaking of kings. There’s some political theory about how a large segment of populations are attracted towards benevolent dictators which is akin to a king. I believe that would be true even in the USA.
Oh yeah!
“I think a devoutly Christian, conservative traditionalist country, even if it’s a monarchy, is fine with me.”
-Pat Buchanan
The scary thing isn’t that Pat is saying it, the scary thing is I think a lot of this country would sign right up for it.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:15:24am |
re: #371 WindUpBird
The scary thing isn’t that Pat is saying it, the scary thing is I think a lot of this country would sign right up for it.
Ha! That’s funny. I was going to make another comment regarding the king and it was going to include Christian. Yep, they’d be fine with a king as long as he was a white Christian conservative. Emphasis on Christian.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:16:06am |
re: #368 Gus 802
I got a call from the NRA the other day. They’re still at it. She was talking a mile a minute and I was like “I support the 2nd Amendment but no I’m not interested in joining.” So, she was firing of the usual: internationalists, UN/United Nations, Obama, etc.
Oh man! Why don’t they ever call me? All I get are telemarketers trying to sell me goddamn wi-max service. I’d be uh…yeah? Obama? They’re…the UN? Wow! yeah? That’s terrible! Oh, gosh, I had no idea! *cues up farting sounds on Youtube* Hold on, one second, I have this…I had szechuan chicken, I’m sorry. Whoops! There it goes again, can I continue this call in the bathroom?
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:16:42am |
re: #370 Kruk
I have a feeling it’s the same segement of the population who thinks most people are too stupid/self centred/entitled to vote. Not *themselves* of course, or their friends or their family, but all the others, well,…
That’s part of the new anti-elitism. No one is an expert yet everybody’s an expert.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:16:50am |
re: #364 Gus 802
FEMA camps! Death panels! Internationalists! They’re going to take away our guns! The guns meme is the worst. Let’s see we’re almost on year 2 and haven’t seen one damn law limiting their possession or the 2nd Amendment. In fact, it’s gone the other way around with state laws allowing people to bring a gun into churches, bars, and saloon. In fact most have expanded concealed and open carry laws. Not satisfied with that they continue to make up stories trying to stir up fear in gun owners and non-owners alike.
As to the gun meme— the NRA has deliberately been pushing misinformation, not to say lies, on it since before the election.
The FEMA bullshit seems to still be with us. Check this out from May:
On the Persistent Rumour About FEMA Camps
A strange thing happened to a friend of mine the other day. She was at work when she noticed a coworker looking rather sullen in the corner of the office. She went to ask what was wrong, when suddenly her coworker broke into fits of wailing and sobbing. The woman’s shoulders convulsed with such force as she cried, that my friend assumed there must have been a death in the family, or that someone close to her was sick or dying. My friend immediately tried to comfort her and ask what was wrong.
This is what she was told:
FEMA was building camps to round up and annihilate Christians. The roundup would start soon, but it would move slowly and quietly. Whole families would disappear and not be heard from again, but it would be made to look like they simply moved out of town. Christian children, her children, would be gassed and put into plastic coffins. Two of the woman’s friends had already moved out of the country. Others were following soon. She intended to join them as soon as she could save up enough money. But finances were tight and it might be too late.What made this incident especially strange for my friend was that her coworker was not unintelligent or incompetent. She spoke three languages, was good at her job, and had managed to raise three children, by herself, at a relatively young age. The whole FEMA camp thing is pretty 2008, yet the woman’s fear was so palpable that she still called me to double-check.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:16:53am |
re: #372 Gus 802
Ha! That’s funny. I was going to make another comment regarding the king and it was going to include Christian. Yep, they’d be fine with a king as long as he was a white Christian conservative. Emphasis on Christian.
I’m imagining John Hagee with like a sort of sideways crown like Jughead.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:18:18am |
re: #369 boredtechindenver
Mandy is easy to understand if you take her at her word that she used to be a member of CPUSA. Used to be.
As in ex-smokers can be the most virulent anti-smokers around. And also the least understanding of other peoples foibles and faults.
Someone who allegedly was a member of the CPUSA ought to know a little bit about what communism actually is, don’t you think?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:19:15am |
re: #375 iceweasel
There are a lot of very smart people who are completely divorced from the engines and the techniques of politics, so they’re vulnerable to it.
it’s like, there are professors and lawyers and genius mathemathicians, but when they step on a car lot to haggle with their dealer, they’re just completely clueless, the mental horsepower doesn’t substitute for being informed about sales tactics.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:20:16am |
re: #375 iceweasel
What a bunch of knuckleheads. You know some of what they got confused with is that FEMA was setting up for mass casualty locations. This was part of the post-911 preparedness scenarios. It also includes contingency plans for mass mortuary sites and they also have 100s of morticians on call. This is set-up for either natural or man-made disasters like terrorism or industrial accidents.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:20:30am |
Heh. Gus and WUB beat me to the points about the NRA and our ‘Christian’ kings.
I didn’t realise the FEMA hysteria was tied up with the notion of rounding up Christians. I have a feeling there’s a lot of crossover with the ‘seekrit Muslim’ scholars of Obamaology.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:20:59am |
re: #278 JasonA
Know what’s scary? I actually find him very likable. In the sense that I think might like going to a barbecue with him or something.
Huckabee comes across very warm and funny. Self deprecating. Not at all crazy.
It is a bit frightening when you get to some of the less charming stuff he believes.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:21:33am |
re: #279 Gus 802
Yep. Questioning the Patriot Act during the Bush years was tantamount to treason! Now, not so much.
I wonder why that is?
I’m assured that doesn’t matter, because now Indymedia is, like, OK with it or something.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:21:49am |
re: #380 iceweasel
Heh. Gus and WUB beat me to the points about the NRA and our ‘Christian’ kings.
I didn’t realise the FEMA hysteria was tied up with the notion of rounding up Christians. I have a feeling there’s a lot of crossover with the ‘seekrit Muslim’ scholars of Obamaology.
The 2012 election is going to be SO WEIRD. I can’t even imagine what’s going to be flung at the wall.
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boredtechindenver Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:22:05am |
re: #377 iceweasel
The ONLY good thing I ever found about the CPUSA were their parties. “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” I had the ability to give money, and the need for beer. Made for a good New Year’s Eve Party at someone else house. (else’s house?)
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:22:46am |
re: #289 Gus 802
We had to live through that throw back (Phyllis Schlafly) when she was running Stop ERA. Let me tell you, when I say throw back, I mean it. She was one of those that thought women should be at home barefoot and pregnant kind of deal.
Except, of course, she had to have a high-profile career to make sure that happened. It must have been a real sacrifice.
Her kid runs Conservapedia.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:23:19am |
re: #374 Gus 802
That’s part of the new anti-elitism. No one is an expert yet everybody’s an expert.
Yes. The new anti-elitism means that genuine experience and anything like an actual education disqualifies you.
The true ‘experts’, on anything, are those who love America* and maybe sat on a PTA committee. You know, like the grifter from Wasilla.
* Being or voting Democrat obviously means you don’t love America.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:23:47am |
re: #302 swamprat
What a mystery. We used to have a lot of war protests.
Now, not so much.Curious, that.
Check the Indymedia events site.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:23:55am |
re: #381 SanFranciscoZionist
Huckabee comes across very warm and funny. Self deprecating. Not at all crazy.
It is a bit frightening when you get to some of the less charming stuff he believes.
I liked Huckabee until he started to actually talk about issues. Actually, I still like him, just as long as he stays far far far away from office, he reminds me of the nice crank who works on your car and cooks great barbecue and also thinks fluoridation is a Freemason plot.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:24:29am |
re: #317 Bagua
Dummy, the new President has a Nobel Peace Prize. It would be like protesting against Gandhi.
Riiiiiight.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:24:36am |
re: #362 ludwigvanquixote
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:26:44am |
re: #332 Gus 802
Yeah. Again it was mostly because of Iraq. The draw down already started while Bush was president and the protests were subsiding by then.
The cool-down on protests, in other words, happened organically. As opposed to the Tea Parties, which sprang full-grown and armored from the head of George Washington the moment it looked like Barack Obama was gonna be president of these here United States.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:26:50am |
re: #388 WindUpBird
I liked Huckabee until he started to actually talk about issues. Actually, I still like him, just as long as he stays far far far away from office, he reminds me of the nice crank who works on your car and cooks great barbecue and also thinks fluoridation is a Freemason plot.
One of the most frightening things about Huckabee is that he is one of the more sane potential candidates for the GOP this time around.
Imagine that.
I did, and now I can’t sleep tonight. /
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:26:56am |
re: #386 iceweasel
Yes. The new anti-elitism means that genuine experience and anything like an actual education disqualifies you.
The true ‘experts’, on anything, are those who love America* and maybe sat on a PTA committee. You know, like the grifter from Wasilla.
* Being or voting Democrat obviously means you don’t love America.
Joe the Plumber the international foreign policy expert. Hard to believe but they actually asked that bonehead questions on foreign policy.
They been brainwashed to think that everybody that’s a bonafide expert has been trained in academia which itself is a “breeding ground for leftist Communist thought!” You know, they talk funny and almost sound British and use them there highfalutin words and such.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:31:00am |
re: #365 WindUpBird
The truth right here. I voted for Obama because I thought he’d be a better president than McCain. it’s really that simple! I had no illusions that he’d magically give me a pony or reverse course when it came to executive power. Sometimes I wonder if some Americans would be happier with a king.
The idea that somehow Obama was/is a cult figure seems to run very deep. Dunno. I voted for him figuring I’d get a functional Democrat. (And still bitching that I wanted Hillary, not the Kid.)
I didn’t think he’d end all wars.
I didn’t think he’d make the rest of the world like us.
I didn’t think he’d make the U.S. any kind of utopia.
I didn’t think I would always agree with him.
I didn’t think I’d get free anything.
So far, I was entirely right.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:31:02am |
re: #392 iceweasel
One of the most frightening things about Huckabee is that he is one of the more sane potential candidates for the GOP this time around.
Imagine that.
I did, and now I can’t sleep tonight. /
How about that wingnut from either Washington or Oregon. You know the one that worked with Linus Pauling many years ago?
Sharron Angle has to be the biggest fruitloop on the news today. The scary thing is that they’re not trailing in the polls but in some cases they’re actually ahead.
Let’s say one doesn’t like Obama. That’s fine. But those freaks are the alternative? Whew.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:33:19am |
re: #393 Gus 802
Joe the Plumber the international foreign policy expert. Hard to believe but they actually asked that bonehead questions on foreign policy.
They been brainwashed to think that everybody that’s a bonafide expert has been trained in academia which itself is a “breeding ground for leftist Communist thought!” You know, they talk funny and almost sound British and use them there highfalutin words and such.
Stanley Fish on something relevant today:
Jeff Sandefer, whose presentation at a 2008 meeting with Governor Perry and the university Board of Regents established the tone and contours of “reform,” makes no bones about it. Professors, he complains, seem to believe “that our colleges and universities belong to them” (“Public Universities Belong to the Public, Not the Faculty,” Texas Public Policy Foundation, May 6, 2009). It’s time, he says, to stop writing “blank checks” to faculty members who occupy themselves “writing academic journal articles that few people read.”
That of course is an accurate description. Senior faculty members do in fact write articles that only their peers at the top of very rarified disciplines can read.
That is what academic research is all about: highly qualified scholars working on problems that may have no practical payoff except the unquantifiable payoff of advancing our understanding of something in philosophy or nature that has long been a mystery.
Who do these perfesser types think they are anyway, writin’ stiff that yer average college dropout and meth dealer in Wasilla can’t reed too gud?
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:36:55am |
re: #395 Gus 802
How about that wingnut from either Washington or Oregon. You know the one that worked with Linus Pauling many years ago?
Sharron Angle has to be the biggest fruitloop on the news today. The scary thing is that they’re not trailing in the polls but in some cases they’re actually ahead.
Let’s say one doesn’t like Obama. That’s fine. But those freaks are the alternative? Whew.
Nader is supposedly considering a 2012 run too now, speaking of fruitloops.
Way to go, Ralph. Siphon off the firebagger vote and the GOP might actually have a chance. Wheee!
I’m still mad at friends who voted for Nader in 2000. Heh.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:37:18am |
re: #396 iceweasel
Who do these perfesser types think they are anyway, writin’ stiff that yer average college dropout and meth dealer in Wasilla can’t reed too gud?
They used to call them long hairs. A lot of this is an outgrowth of the right-wing free speech movement promoted by Frontpage. The claim regarding censorship of conservative students and such has created a great deal a animosity with academia from the right.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:38:32am |
re: #397 iceweasel
Nader is supposedly considering a 2012 run too now, speaking of fruitloops.
Way to go, Ralph. Siphon off the firebagger vote and the GOP might actually have a chance. Wheee!I’m still mad at friends who voted for Nader in 2000. Heh.
Nader should stick to car safety. He was pretty good at that. As a politician he has no future. He’s also a lot like Ron Paul.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:40:10am |
re: #397 iceweasel
Nader is supposedly considering a 2012 run too now, speaking of fruitloops.
Way to go, Ralph. Siphon off the firebagger vote and the GOP might actually have a chance. Wheee!I’m still mad at friends who voted for Nader in 2000. Heh.
Oh God.
I was working for a very lefty magazine in 2000, and the editor endorsed Nader. This led to untold agony for me, not the least of it being the irate calls from elderly ladies with heavy Brooklyn accents who wanted to tell us off for abandoning the Democratic Party.
And the faxes. If the Nader campaign got your fax number, it was all over. The sheer number of trees we killed, getting updated on any random-ass thing that went through Ralph Nader’s pointy head.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:40:47am |
re: #398 Gus 802
They used to call them long hairs. A lot of this is an outgrowth of the right-wing free speech movement promoted by Frontpage. The claim regarding censorship of conservative students and such has created a great deal a animosity with academia from the right.
Ah yes, the legacy of D-Ho and his Dangerous Academia crap.
They’ve hated universities since the 60’s though: too many DFH’s according to them.
(That would be ‘Dirty Fucking Hippie’).
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:41:08am |
re: #399 Gus 802
Nader should stick to car safety. He was pretty good at that. As a politician he has no future. He’s also a lot like Ron Paul.
There’s a kids’ novel from the 70s in which a teenage boy finds a cat under a car and adopts it. He calls her Nader, after Ralph, because he also spent time under Chevrolets.
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boredtechindenver Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:41:09am |
As a rule, I distrust any sort of “True Believer”. Religious, political, economical, it doesn’t matter to me. I prefer pragmatists. At the start, I didn’t have a preference between Hillary or Barack. They both struck me as pragmatists.
For me the deciding factor was the ability to put a ground game together, and I KNEW that there were so manyy people who would freak the fuck out if a BLACK MAN won the nomination, and even more who would go off the deep end if he won the Presidency. I have not been disappointed.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:41:36am |
Here’s the lesser known nut. Art Robinson:
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:42:34am |
re: #397 iceweasel
Nader is supposedly considering a 2012 run too now, speaking of fruitloops.
Way to go, Ralph. Siphon off the firebagger vote and the GOP might actually have a chance. Wheee!I’m still mad at friends who voted for Nader in 2000. Heh.
BTW, what’s a ‘firebagger’?
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:42:49am |
re: #402 SanFranciscoZionist
There’s a kids’ novel from the 70s in which a teenage boy finds a cat under a car and adopts it. He calls her Nader, after Ralph, because he also spent time under Chevrolets.
Cute.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:45:23am |
re: #405 SanFranciscoZionist
BTW, what’s a ‘firebagger’?
A person nominally of the political left viewed as excessively critical of President Barack Obama, especially if the tendency is to reflexively or obsessively criticize him and seemingly not other political figures. Etymology: Jane Hamsher’s popular, left-leaning FireDogLake blog was regarded by Democratic moderates as having gone around the bend in being hypercritical, such as when Hamsher appeared on Fox News to denounce Obama’s Health Care Bill, got involved with Neocon zealot Grover Norquist and even reportedly Tea Party activists. Thus, FireDogLake + Teabagger.“Firebaggers are just pissed because Obama hasn’t invited them into the Whitehouse and/or isn’t the Great Liberal Savior they thought he was going to be (depending on the firebagger doing the bitching).”
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:47:50am |
re: #403 boredtechindenver
As a rule, I distrust any sort of “True Believer”. Religious, political, economical, it doesn’t matter to me. I prefer pragmatists. At the start, I didn’t have a preference between Hillary or Barack. They both struck me as pragmatists.
For me the deciding factor was the ability to put a ground game together, and I KNEW that there were so manyy people who would freak the fuck out if a BLACK MAN won the nomination, and even more who would go off the deep end if he won the Presidency. I have not been disappointed.
I’m still surprised though.
I expected mouthbreathers to freak out, but I didn’t expect this to ramify through the entire GOP leadership in the peculiarly virulent way it has.
Give me a pragmatist over an idealist any time. I love Hillary and would have voted for her, but I genuinely thought she came with too much baggage (in the form of decades of wingnut Hillary-hate).
I also wasn’t too keen on Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton for our POTUS history though.
Of course, the GOP has had no problem retooling (and I use that word advisedly) their narrative to make Obama the most evil and most librhul person EVAH.
At least we have interesting new conspiracy theories now, and not the CLINTON DRUG DEALER MURDER VINCE FOSTER LESBIAN BLARGH mid-90’s crap.
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boredtechindenver Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:49:09am |
Gus, if i remember right, you are in the Denver Metro area. Everyone else, Clear Channel has a Nirther/MinuteMan supporter on AM drive time radio. “Dick Chancre” is only asking questions, but I heard his first Nirther broadcast and he went off the deep end from there. He has had “Oily Taint” and every other White Power, Neo Nazi, and Truther that Charles has pointed out on his show.
The biggest thing about him that disgusts me, he keeps bringing up his friendship with Alan Berg, a real victim of Neo Nazi’s as his claim to being against the people he keeps putting on the air. Of course, he doesn’t do that while talking to the pieces of crap.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:50:12am |
re: #405 SanFranciscoZionist
BTW, what’s a ‘firebagger’?
Derives from firedoglake and their opposition to HCR— no public option, so let’s kill the bill! Who gives a shit if it covers 39 million without insurance?
Progressives who mount opposition to Obama for not being progressive enough, basically. The left version of teabagging.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:53:26am |
re: #410 boredtechindenver
Gus, if i remember right, you are in the Denver Metro area. Everyone else, Clear Channel has a Nirther/MinuteMan supporter on AM drive time radio. “Dick Chancre” is only asking questions, but I heard his first Nirther broadcast and he went off the deep end from there. He has had “Oily Taint” and every other White Power, Neo Nazi, and Truther that Charles has pointed out on his show.
The biggest thing about him that disgusts me, he keeps bringing up his friendship with Alan Berg, a real victim of Neo Nazi’s as his claim to being against the people he keeps putting on the air. Of course, he doesn’t do that while talking to the pieces of crap.
The claim now is that Colorado has the most Tea Party members. Never heard of Dick Chancre since I don’t listen to talk radio or watch TV. Kind of odd that he would have been friends with Alan Berg but people do change. I’ve walked by the old Berg condo many times and they finally replaced the garage door the last time I saw it. Used to have the bullet holes.
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boredtechindenver Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:56:21am |
Dick Chancre isn’t his real name, but you probably remember him from the Jon Benet story.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 12:58:55am |
re: #413 boredtechindenver
Dick Chancre isn’t his real name, but you probably remember him from the Jon Benet story.
Doesn’t ring a bell. Now that Jon Benet story. Talk about strange even to the bitter end before her mother died. Remember that suspect that confessed?
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boredtechindenver Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:00:44am |
Or that her father is now dating Natalie Holloway’s mother? wooo hooo.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:02:30am |
re: #415 boredtechindenver
Or that her father is now dating Natalie Holloway’s mother? wooo hooo.
Seriously? OK, just checked and that looks correct. He was another strange bird. I never could figure out if he did it or Patsy.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:04:58am |
re: #414 Gus 802
Doesn’t ring a bell. Now that Jon Benet story. Talk about strange even to the bitter end before her mother died. Remember that suspect that confessed?
I remember that. Mark something or other?
I was telling Jimmah about the Jon Benet case the other day and the circus around it.
So weird. What is the consensus now? (I haven’t followed it). That the DA et al fucked up and it really was some stranger invading?
I thought various investigators and people in the DA office admitted it was completely bungled.
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Kruk Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:06:43am |
re: #396 iceweasel
Who do these perfesser types think they are anyway, writin’ stiff that yer average college dropout and meth dealer in Wasilla can’t reed too gud?
If nothing else, the wingnuts should think of the pursuit of knowledge as a national security issue. (Something they’re supposedly concerned about.) If the US gets overtaken in GDP *and* technological/scientific knowhow by BRIC countries, the game’s over. The reverence that Chinese and Indians especially have for knowledge and education is humbling.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:07:49am |
re: #399 Gus 802
Nader should stick to car safety. He was pretty good at that. As a politician he has no future. He’s also a lot like Ron Paul.
there’s a guy with a Corvair up the street from me! :D
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:08:15am |
re: #417 iceweasel
I remember that. Mark something or other?
I was telling Jimmah about the Jon Benet case the other day and the circus around it.
So weird. What is the consensus now? (I haven’t followed it). That the DA et al fucked up and it really was some stranger invading?
I thought various investigators and people in the DA office admitted it was completely bungled.
The consensus. Basically that the Boulder PD screwed up the investigation since they had almost no experience with murder cases. Most everybody thought that Patsy killed her daughter but some thought they father did out of jealousy. The fake suspect was John Mark Karr.
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boredtechindenver Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:08:49am |
The DA fucked up, but that was because the family was rich and white and Boulder County may be called “The Peoples Republic of Boulder”, but privilege still counts and the police didn’t treat the house as a crime scene until it was much too late.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:09:28am |
re: #418 Kruk
If nothing else, the wingnuts should think of the pursuit of knowledge as a national security issue. (Something they’re supposedly concerned about.) If the US gets overtaken in GDP *and* technological/scientific knowhow by BRIC countries, the game’s over. The reverence that Chinese and Indians especially have for knowledge and education is humbling.
Wingnuts detest knowledge. It is the provenance of the elites and leads to people questioning their (wingnuts’) authority.
It also threatens religious belief (in their world), so it is from Satan.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:09:41am |
re: #421 boredtechindenver
The DA fucked up, but that was because the family was rich and white and Boulder County may be called “The Peoples Republic of Boulder”, but privilege still counts and the police didn’t treat the house as a crime scene until it was much too late.
Yep, that’s what I think. They got a free pass because they were white and wealthy. They fell for “the act” hook line and sinker.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:10:23am |
re: #422 iceweasel
Wingnuts detest knowledge. It is the provenance of the elites and leads to people questioning their (wingnuts’) authority.
It also threatens religious belief (in their world), so it is from Satan.
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boredtechindenver Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:11:50am |
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Kruk Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:13:35am |
re: #424 Gus 802
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Heh. Yep, I should have clicked the Arthur Robinson link before suggesting the Wingnuts would be concerned with knowledge. “Enlightenment Lackeys”? Yikes.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:15:17am |
re: #426 Kruk
Heh. Yep, I should have clicked the Arthur Robinson link before suggesting the Wingnuts would be concerned with knowledge. “Enlightenment Lackeys”? Yikes.
Yeah. The Enlightenment. Way overrated. We should bring back the dark ages and blood letting.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:15:55am |
re: #420 Gus 802
The consensus. Basically that the Boulder PD screwed up the investigation since they had almost no experience with murder cases. Most everybody thought that Patsy killed her daughter but some thought they father did out of jealousy. The fake suspect was John Mark Karr.
I admit I thought at first that it was the parents— the ransom note.
The other scenario floated a little was that it was her brother.
Took a class once with a former DA. She gave us a case history: year old infant raped and killed in her home. Who did it?
Most people guessed the stepfather, or the 14 year old (half)brother. Some guessed it was a stranger.
It wasn’t any of those; it was the 11 year old half-brother.
So for awhile I thought it was possible that it was intrafamilial and was covered up. I have no idea now what to think.
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ClaudeMonet Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:17:54am |
re: #224 eclectic infidel
It’s something that frustrates me and boggles my mind at the same time, and not just in relation to the JCRC either. Maybe we can never catch up to the other side with respect to funding, networking, and pure passion, but why on Earth must there be so much disorganization and an glaringly obvious lack of communication among pro-Israel organizations and groups? I don’t get it.
We’re Jews. One of our favorite (and true) quips is, “What do you get when you have ten Jews in a room? Seventeen opinions.”
The irony is that the only thing that gets us to work together is a mutual threat, and even then, it’s just barely.
In our organizations or what passes for them, we are a microcosm of society in general. There are those who are there for the publicity, those who want to hang on to power, those who are “do-gooders” without a lick of practicality, those who are of the “kill ‘em all, let God sort it out”, those who cherry-pick the Bible for support for their particular position, and those who are actually reasonable. IMO we have more than the average number of the latter, but as in any large group, the minority of a-holes, Duke Nukems, Pollyannas, Cautious Carols, and Rainbow McUnicorns drown us out.
And even when our various political stances come together, even God can’t get the Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist, Humanistic, and any other denominations to work together.
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:18:02am |
re: #428 iceweasel
I admit I thought at first that it was the parents— the ransom note.
The other scenario floated a little was that it was her brother.
Took a class once with a former DA. She gave us a case history: year old infant raped and killed in her home. Who did it?
Most people guessed the stepfather, or the 14 year old (half)brother. Some guessed it was a stranger.
It wasn’t any of those; it was the 11 year old half-brother.
So for awhile I thought it was possible that it was intrafamilial and was covered up. I have no idea now what to think.
Forgot about the brother. Could have been him too. I think it was one of the three.
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boredtechindenver Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:19:35am |
My point regarding “Dick Chancre” is that he is broadcasting Nirther/Tea Party/full on Trancedo crap every day on a Clear Channel station, and is mainstreaming the stupid. The Program Manager for the station was fired and she was the main person providing cover for him since he went All-Nirther, All the time
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:23:31am |
re: #431 boredtechindenver
My point regarding “Dick Chancre” is that he is broadcasting Nirther/Tea Party/full on Trancedo crap every day on a Clear Channel station, and is mainstreaming the stupid. The Program Manager for the station was fired and she was the main person providing cover for him since he went All-Nirther, All the time
Peter Boyles?
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Gus Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:29:46am |
Oh brother…
[Link: faithandlibertyconference.com…]
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:37:25am |
re: #94 MandyManners
With all due respect, you need to get a clue. The ILWU is a Prog front. As such, it is anti-Israel.
How did I miss this gem.
So all progressives are anti-Israel, huh. Why don’t you explain what a “Prog” is, Mandy?
Then try to justify your claim that Obama or progressivism in general is anti-Israel.
PS: You don’t know what you’re talking about, as usual.
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Kruk Tue, Jun 22, 2010 1:41:55am |
re: #434 Gus 802
Oh brother…
[Link: faithandlibertyconference.com…]
Heh. I’m just glad their logo wasn’t a crucified dude whose blood was refreshing a tree.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 22, 2010 2:57:47am |
re: #435 iceweasel
How did I miss this gem.
So all progressives are anti-Israel, huh. Why don’t you explain what a “Prog” is, Mandy?
Then try to justify your claim that Obama or progressivism in general is anti-Israel.
PS: You don’t know what you’re talking about, as usual.
Man, it was real gold earlier, oh yeah 9_9
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 22, 2010 3:04:41am |
re: #64 Dark_Falcon
most of those seeking increased international small arms trade regulations are Tranzis who don’t like America’s 2nd Amendment.
What exactly is a “tranzi”?
I know it as a word crazy-assed wingnut stalkers use.
You know I love you, but this is bullshit.
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