Ted Kennedy Rushed to Hospital

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Senator Ted Kennedy collapsed and went into seizures at the inaugural luncheon.

Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., who is battling a brain tumor, was taken away from the congressional luncheon in convulsions.

Kennedy was at a table with Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., Vice President Mondale and Mrs. Mondale, and others. While at the table, Kennedy began having seizures that lasted for several minutes. As they were carrying Kennedy out of the room, he was still seizing. President Barack Obama went out of the room with him, but he is back in the luncheon room now.

UPDATE at 1/20/09 1:22:31 pm:

Latest word is that Kennedy and Robert Byrd (who also collapsed) are both doing better…

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402 comments
1 bryantms  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:08:33pm

Let's hope everything's alright. I wasn't a fan, but no one deserves that. I hope he and his family make it through this.

2 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:08:50pm

Please note that I won't tolerate mean-spirited remarks about Kennedy in this thread.

3 sngnsgt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:08:53pm

As a person with Epilepsy, I hope Sen Kennedy is well.

4 Semper Gumbi  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:09:37pm

Oh my. This does not sound good. Thgoughts and prayers to Senator Kennedy and his family.

5 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:09:47pm

What, 0bama couldn't cure him by laying hands on him?
Already we're seeing the 0ne fail!

Seriously, my prayers with Ted Kennedy.

6 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:09:48pm

Dallas Morning News saying that both Kennedy and Byrd were taken away.

7 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:09:53pm

Our thoughts and prayers are with you Senator Kennedy.

8 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:10:06pm
9 happy_mama  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:10:11pm

I have friends who are losing their young son to a brain tumor. No one should have to deal with such a horror. My prayers for Senator Kennedy and his family.

10 vxbush  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:10:17pm

re: #3 sngnsgt

As a person with Epilepsy, I hope Sen Kennedy is well.

Unfortunately, such seizures are, I think, rather common after brain surgery. I know several folks who had to go on anti-seizure medication after such surgeries.

This could be a bad sign of scar tissue developing in the brain. This is why my son has to take seizure medication, but the underlying cause is different.

11 PSGInfinity  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:10:40pm

(Raises a glass of water)

Sir, I've disagreed with most of your politics, and some of your life choices, but none of that matters now. I wish you a safe and speedy recovery.

12 RJ_In_Reno  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:10:53pm

I just heard on the radio the Sen. Bird had to be taken out on a stretcher also. He became ill after Kennedy was taken out.

13 vxbush  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:11:17pm

re: #9 happy_mama

I have friends who are losing their young son to a brain tumor. No one should have to deal with such a horror. My prayers for Senator Kennedy and his family.

It is hard to watch, isn't it? A good friend had a brain tumor and while surgery took care of the cancer, she is 100% disabled as a result and on serious seizure meds.

14 Rednek  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:11:19pm

He has a bad disease and will probably die from it in the coming weeks, if not sooner.

15 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:11:24pm

I sincerely hope he is OK.

16 Wishing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:11:25pm

re: #12 RJ_In_Reno

I just heard on the radio the Sen. Bird had to be taken out on a stretcher also. He became ill after Kennedy was taken out.

Waiting for #3....

17 Tumulus11  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:11:30pm

. After Senator Kennedy went down, President Obama went over to him as there was a moment of silence in the room.
// Senator Rockefeller on CNN.

18 arizona9  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:11:39pm

Oh man. My mother had brain cancer and when she had a seizure several months after her initial surgery to remove the tumor, it meant the cancer had returned in the form of several new tumors. Let's hope it's just the medication or something.

19 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:11:40pm

When the President returned to the room, he said a few words and was very down when discussing Ted Kennedy.

20 snowcrash  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:11:55pm

He may have lightened up on his anti seizure meds so he would be alert for the festivities and had break through seizures. Poor guy.

21 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:12:11pm

Not good at all.

Prayers

22 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:12:13pm

re: #6 Ward Cleaver

Dallas Morning News saying that both Kennedy and Byrd were taken away.

Interesting that both had medical problems at about the same time.

23 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:12:16pm

To the Kennedy family:

For most all of us, political differences are set aside when tragedy strikes. God bless you and the Senator. My sincere prayers for his recovery.

24 vxbush  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:12:23pm

re: #20 snowcrash

He may have lightened up on his anti seizure meds so he would be alert for the festivities and had break through seizures. Poor guy.

Perhaps. That's not a bad speculation.

25 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:12:26pm

May he quickly recover.

26 Wishing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:12:42pm

re: #20 snowcrash

He may have lightened up on his anti seizure meds so he would be alert for the festivities and had break through seizures. Poor guy.

Agree, whatever the cause, may he recover quickly.

27 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:13:02pm

I wish Senator Kennedy a speedy recovery. This really puts a downer on an otherwise very historic occasion.

28 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:13:16pm

re: #22 Honorary Yooper

Interesting that both had medical problems at about the same time.

Neither man is young, and Kennedy's dealing with brain cancer.

29 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:13:22pm
30 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:13:23pm

Though I oppose most of his views, and do not share in his joy in this presidential election, I am glad Ted Kennedy lived to see this historic event.
God's will be done.

31 Gella  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:13:28pm

i wish him well, i hope its only stress related

32 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:13:41pm

I don't wish ill on anybody. I'll say a little prayer for Sen Kennedy's recovery.......

33 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:14:27pm

WHAT ABOUT BYRD?

34 nigella  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:14:32pm

I would never wish harm to Senator Kennedy, as I am not the one who will be judging him when he does leave this Earth.Until now I hope he doesn't suffer.God and only God will decide when he will die, and decide his punishment .

35 Rednek  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:14:33pm

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Kennedy's tumor inoperable? If he is siezing now, shouldn't it be due to the tumor rather than any scars?

36 father_of_10  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:14:42pm

Bye for now . . .

37 DeliLama  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:14:48pm

These are times to go above politics. I wish him a speedy recovery.

38 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:14:58pm

re: #33 MandyManners

WHAT ABOUT BYRD?

Not much info on Byrd... Sounds like he was overcome as well.

39 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:15:06pm

Bush booed - Hey hey hey good bye

Lets roll.

40 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:15:17pm

re: #33 MandyManners

WHAT ABOUT BYRD?

At least Byrd stayed out of the Bush........

41 thriggle  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:15:26pm

Like him or not, our prayers go out to him, and to Senator Byrd.

42 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:15:28pm
43 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:15:30pm

re: #35 Rednek

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Kennedy's tumor inoperable? If he is siezing now, shouldn't it be due to the tumor rather than any scars?

I recall they started him on an experimental procedure. I think it included some form of surgery...

44 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:15:38pm

re: #35 Rednek

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Kennedy's tumor inoperable? If he is siezing now, shouldn't it be due to the tumor rather than any scars?

No, it was operable, and they operated. The problem is, well, it's the brain. That's always a delicate and problematic thing to cut into.

45 sngnsgt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:15:45pm

re: #10 vxbush

Unfortunately, such seizures are, I think, rather common after brain surgery. I know several folks who had to go on anti-seizure medication after such surgeries.

This could be a bad sign of scar tissue developing in the brain. This is why my son has to take seizure medication, but the underlying cause is different.

I take meds every day as well, Epilepsy is a cruel disorder. It doesn't choose race or gender, but it does effect everyone who is a part of an Epileptics life.

46 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:15:58pm

re: #42 BenZacharia

BZ, what the hell?

47 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:15:59pm

re: #39 faraway

Bush booed - Hey hey hey good bye

Lets roll.

Yeah the LLL is really classy. I don't recall ANY of those shenanigans when Clinton left office. What a bunch of douchebags.

48 nigella  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:16:04pm

PIMF, until then not now

49 Mr. Owl  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:16:05pm

Did I hear correctly that he was flown to Duke Med? If so, he's in the care of one of the most capable medical staffs in the county.

50 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:16:09pm

That's enough. I warned you.

51 rightside  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:16:11pm

According to FoxNews, Sen Byrd left, not becuase of an illness....they think he might have left because Kennedy fell ill.... Nothing positive on that, only speculation...

Also, Sen Kennedy is "much better"

52 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:16:19pm

re: #42 BenZacharia

Did you read comment #2?

53 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:16:21pm

Prayers going up for Senator Kennedy and his family.

54 mikalm  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:16:32pm

Prayers for both Sens. Kennedy and Byrd. Whatever we think of their politics, they are both aging, frail, suffering human beings, and need our good thoughts.

55 Tumulus11  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:16:40pm

'Senator Kennedy gave me his old Irish grin as he was being loaded into the ambulance.'
// Sen. Hatch on CNN.


. CNN is also saying that Sen. Byrd did not have a medical problem at the luncheon.

56 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:16:45pm

re: #42 BenZacharia

WTF? twice.

57 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:16:49pm

Prayers to both men and their families.

That being said - I'd avoid any raw seafood at the inauguration luncheon.

58 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:16:51pm

re: #50 Charles

That's enough. I warned you.

Another account bites the dust...

59 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:16:55pm

re: #46 tfc3rid

BZ, what the hell?

He's gone. Good riddance. What a prick.

60 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:16:57pm

Bush booed - Hey hey hey good bye

Lets roll.

61 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:17:04pm

I will say a prayer for ted and bob.

62 RJ_in_Reno  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:17:10pm

They radio said the Byrd became distraught about his friend Ted. He kept saying "Teddy, Teddy, Teddy". Ok I added that last part.

63 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:17:16pm

re: #42 BenZacharia

..........and Ben, who decides?

64 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:17:23pm

Walter Mondale just said he heard Kennedy was doing better at the hospital...

65 yochanan  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:17:31pm

refuah slamah Sen Kennedy.

it is a mitvah to pray for gov't leaders.

66 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:17:34pm

Neither Byrd nor Kennedy are in good health. Kennedy has been battling a brain tumor (malignant glioma). Byrd's abilities have come under increasing scrutiny as chair of the Appropriations Committee as he's missed meetings and his staffers have picked up the slack for him.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of both men.

67 J.S.  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:17:51pm

re: #22 Honorary Yooper

I think the whole inauguration has been extremely stressful for virtually everyone -- its been the huge crowds, the cold weather, the need for tight security, even just the nervousness (including Roberts even making a gaff during the swearing-in) -- lots of stress..

68 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:17:54pm

re: #64 Charles

Walter Mondale just said he heard Kennedy was doing better at the hospital...

Excellent news Charles!

69 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:18:00pm

re: #46 tfc3rid

BZ, what the hell?

BZ went more than a little over the edge.

70 Jamie  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:18:08pm

re: #64 Charles

Walter Mondale just said he heard Kennedy was doing better at the hospital...

Well, that's good news. Having watched a few relatives die of cancer, I can only imagine the pain of deteriorating through brain cancer.

71 NY Nana  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:18:23pm

re: #10 vxbush

It sounds like he was having Grand Mal seizures. Sadly, I think that they may be a direct response to the tumor metastasizing.

There should be an update after he is assessed. I was impressed that he had returned to the Senate.

72 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:18:27pm

re: #52 Dianna

Did you read comment #2?

He only reads his own comments.
But not anymore.
Cold-hearted F**K!

73 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:18:32pm

re: #63 IslandLibertarian

..........and Ben, who decides?

Not me, or you, or him.

We should all be grateful for that. And scared, as well.

74 turn  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:18:40pm

Not good. I hope this is a simple case of backing too far off the seizure medication. Had a co-worker who intentionally did that for an important meeting in order to temporarily avoid that "foggy" feeling he had from the medication. He went into seizures in the meeting and we had to call 911. He was ok the next day (but very sad to say eventually passed from the brain tumor). I wish Kennedy and his family the best of luck.

75 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:18:55pm

re: #69 Honorary Yooper

BZ went more than a little over the edge.

No kidding. Hey Yoop, I feel that warm glow of Chicago Machine Politics all across our nation now!

76 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:19:02pm

Prayers for the health, dignity and comfort of Senator Kennedy and his family.
O holy and unmercenary wonder workers, visit our infirmities, Freely you have received, freely give to us.

77 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:19:07pm

Sad day for Sen Kennedy and his family.
I pray that he'll get better quickly, with all the medical aid available to him.

However - he did manage to see Pres Obama sworn in, something which was not so certain when he was first taken ill, last autumn.

78 PSGInfinity  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:19:13pm

re: #50 Charles

Yowch! I had a feeling Post #2 was a good idea...

79 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:19:23pm

Seizures are terrifying and this is certainly not the time or the place to speak ill of someone suffering, but rather offer comfort and prayers.

80 mikalm  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:19:32pm

re: #65 yochanan

refuah slamah Sen Kennedy.

it is a mitvah to pray for gov't leaders.

Yup. In our church we always pray for our President and the Congress, no matter their politics.

81 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:19:38pm

re: #58 Jetpilot1101

Another account bites the dust...

Well i always figure when Charles put's a thread like this up, he is interested in thinning the heard.

82 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:19:40pm

re: #66 lawhawk

Neither Byrd nor Kennedy are in good health. Kennedy has been battling a brain tumor (malignant glioma). Byrd's abilities have come under increasing scrutiny as chair of the Appropriations Committee as he's missed meetings and his staffers have picked up the slack for him.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of both men.

When senators or justices get so old or so ill that they can not do the job, but staffers must do it, they need to leave the office.

83 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:20:11pm

re: #70 Jamie

Well, that's good news. Having watched a few relatives die of cancer, I can only imagine the pain of deteriorating through brain cancer.

Yes. My mom died of breast cancer and my wife and I cared for her to the end, so she could stay home with her pets. It was awful to see her in the last few days before she passed. It's true that there are times when passing is a blessing.

84 Dainn  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:20:22pm

I'm not sure Sen Kennedy having a seizure is a sign of progression in his disease. It must have been incredibly difficult for him to sit through the inauguration then move to the luncheon under those hot lights. My guess is that his body couldn't take it and he'll be rehydrated in the hospital, given some electrolytes and sent home.

Sen Byrd had some sort of eating difficulties.

I hope they both get better very soon.

85 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:20:27pm

re: #80 mikalm

Yup. In our church we always pray for our President and the Congress, no matter their politics.

For all the good it ever does...I am rapidly developing a broad streak of wry bemusement.

86 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:20:31pm

re: #73 Dianna

Not me, or you, or him.

We should all be grateful for that. And scared, as well.

My reformed buddies and I all say "Never pray for justice!"

87 Florida Lady  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:20:36pm

Alhtough I disagree most heartily with everything Ted Kennedy does politically, I hope he's not suffering.

88 jcm  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:20:41pm

Get well soon Teddy. I wish you a long and happy retirement.

89 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:20:58pm

One of the measures of a good person is the ability to feel empathy even for people with whom we strongly disagree. That is what keeps me coming back to this place. Things get heated, but the fundamental tone is one of respect.

Too bad you didn't get that, Ben.

90 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:20:58pm

re: #75 tfc3rid

No kidding. Hey Yoop, I feel that warm glow of Chicago Machine Politics all across our nation now!

Yeah, that warm glow you feel is you (and everyone else) being pissed on by the Chicago Machine politicians. They have a nasty habit of using voters as their own personal fire hydrants.

91 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:21:04pm

re: #78 PSGInfinity

Yowch! I had a feeling Post #2 was a good idea...

It shouldn't be needed here! rules are clearly posted and adhered too!

92 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:21:10pm

The WaPo timeline of events suggests that Byrd was taken from the room just before Kennedy started suffering the seizures. Obama, who was present at the luncheon, was visibly shaken, which makes sense given that Kennedy was one of Obama's biggest backers.

93 ThinkRight  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:21:12pm

I hope both will be ok
They both should spend more time with family

94 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:21:13pm

re: #81 Nevergiveup

Well i always figure when Charles put's a thread like this up, he is interested in thinning the heard.

Makes it easy to identify the nutcases.

95 badger1970  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:21:21pm

I bet the msm won't make fun of it like they did when #41 had food poisoning at a Japanese luncheon.

Though I am personally disgusted by the acts of Ted Kennedy in his past, I wish him and his family well.

96 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:21:24pm

re: #86 IslandLibertarian

My reformed buddies and I all say "Never pray for justice!"

Perfect justice would be a terrible thing.

97 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:21:27pm

re: #47 Jetpilot1101

Yeah the LLL is really classy. I don't recall ANY of those shenanigans when Clinton left office. What a bunch of douchebags.

There were plenty of shenanigans when Bill Clinton left office - most of them committed by the Clintonistas or the Clintons themselves.

98 winston06  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:21:28pm

what's the life expectancy of someone who is suffering from brain cancer?

99 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:21:59pm

re: #57 DaddyG

Prayers to both men and their families.

That being said - I'd avoid any raw seafood at the inauguration luncheon.

i predict the new thing in DC will be "food tasters".......

100 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:22:21pm
101 rightside  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:22:28pm

re: #98 winston06

That is too difficult to answer. It depends on too many factors.

102 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:22:39pm
.......and somewhere the Hannity nation is dancing and singing songs to their dark lord

from huffPo

103 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:22:56pm

re: #94 unrealizedviewpoint

Makes it easy to identify the nutcases.

Good grief, there were enough of them in the first Obama innaguration thread this morning. Several deletions, and at least one banning.

104 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:22:57pm

re: #81 Nevergiveup

Well i always figure when Charles put's a thread like this up, he is interested in thinning the heard.

my lips are sealed except for this....both of these men are icons of American politics...they are like living history and whether you agree with their methods or their ideology is somewhat beside the point now...they are both great men for their own reasons and in their own way...

105 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:22:58pm

The torch has passed to a new generation

106 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:23:00pm

re: #98 winston06

what's the life expectancy of someone who is suffering from brain cancer?

too many variables for a time frame
how much has it spread
how soon since detected
what treatment and when
general health of victim

107 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:23:02pm

re: #98 winston06

It depends on age, type of cancer, so many factors.

108 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:23:11pm

re: #69 Honorary Yooper

BZ went more than a little over the edge.

and then he went "buh-bye!".......

/natural selection

109 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:23:14pm

[ if one cannot say something nice, don;t say anything at all ]

110 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:23:18pm

re: #92 lawhawk

Agree that Obama seemed very shaken when he had to say a few words.

111 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:23:19pm

I hope none of Charles' detractors saw those comments.

112 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:23:23pm

re: #98 winston06

Totally depends on the kind of tumor and when it is caught. Gliomas are a difficult one to deal with.

113 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:23:26pm

Heaven forbid Obama let his arugala salad wilt as he rushes back into the lunch room to finish up. Prayers for Ted Kennedy. And kudos to him for inadvertantly taking the limelight away from the Obamamessiah, if even for a short period of time.

114 ssn697  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:23:49pm

"Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., just said that Kennedy "had a seizure and he's on his way to the hospital," USA TODAY's Kathy Kiely reports.

Kerry told Kathy that Byrd was helped from the room because he became upset about what was happening to his friend -- Kennedy. Byrd is otherwise fine, Kerry said."

115 Curly  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:23:51pm

Woob! Woob! Woob!

116 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:24:41pm
117 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:24:59pm

Must go. Again, best wishes for a recovery to Senator Kennedy.

118 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:25:09pm

re: #109 Conservative in Liberal Hands

[ if one cannot say something nice, don;t say anything at all ]

Author = Mom

119 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:25:16pm

re: #111 MandyManners

I hope none of Charles' detractors saw those comments.

Some of them may have. Some will hate him for letting BZ go so long. Others will hate him for deleting them and banning BZ. Either way, it's a lose-lose situation. The detractors will hate Charles no matter what he does or doesn't do.

120 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:25:18pm

re: #115 Curly

Woob! Woob! Woob!

Can you elaborate?

121 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:25:19pm

re: #9 happy_mama

I have friends who are losing their young son to a brain tumor. No one should have to deal with such a horror. My prayers for Senator Kennedy and his family.

In the case of the child, that is tragic. In Kennedy's, it's unfortunate. Prayers for both of them.

122 PSGInfinity  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:25:31pm

re: #91 sattv4u2

It shouldn't be needed here! rules are clearly posted and adhered too!

Oh, I agree with that general principle. I take comfort, though, in it's steady application. And as a practical matter, it helps a Blog Owner fend off allegations of "hateful commenters" to have a live post in a thread.

123 Wishing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:25:39pm

re: #118 unrealizedviewpoint

Author = Mom

We must be related.

124 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:25:49pm

Good Afternoon Lizards!

I hope Sen Kennedy is comfortable. He has to be disappointed he missed the rest of the festivities. I think he has only survived this long due to sheer willpower. I hate that anyone has to suffer.

The new White House Website is up and running.

I read the speech and thought it was a good speech.

How are you-all and what is the consensus?

125 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:25:49pm

re: #109 Conservative in Liberal Hands
Which is why I haven't commented.

126 jcm  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:25:49pm

re: #98 winston06

what's the life expectancy of someone who is suffering from brain cancer?

Depends. On the type, stage when diagnosed, health of the patient, etc....
Kennedy has malignant glioma, The prognosis for patients with high-grade gliomas is generally poor, and is especially so for older patients. Of 10,000 Americans diagnosed each year with malignant gliomas, about half are alive 1 year after diagnosis, and 25% after two years.

127 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:26:03pm

re: #110 tfc3rid

Siezures are very frightening to witness.

128 gmsc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:27:05pm

OT: N.H. man who helped develop microwave oven dies

NASHUA, N.H. (AP) — Robert Decareau, who helped invent the processes necessary to create the microwave oven, has died in Nashua.

Decareau, who lived in Amherst, was 82. He died Sunday after suffering from Alzheimer's for the last 17 years.

According to his family, Decareau was a Massachusetts native who went to work for Raytheon after earning his doctorate in chemistry. It was there that he started working on microwave energy food applications, and he was one of the first to call himself a food scientist.

Decareau's daughter, Karen Ross of Auburn, Maine, says she remembers her father experimenting with a refrigerator-sized prototype microwave oven in the family's basement in the 1960s.

*DING* He's done.

129 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:27:06pm

re: #119 Honorary Yooper

Some of them may have. Some will hate him for letting BZ go so long. Others will hate him for deleting them and banning BZ. Either way, it's a lose-lose situation. The detractors will hate Charles no matter what he does or doesn't do.

Huh? Those comments were deleted in short order. Am I missing a larger context?

130 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:27:14pm

re: #127 Dianna

Siezures are very frightening to witness.

Try watching one from the inside. Scarier.........

131 Wishing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:27:21pm

re: #124 ggt

Good Afternoon Lizards!

I hope Sen Kennedy is comfortable. He has to be disappointed he missed the rest of the festivities. I think he has only survived this long due to sheer willpower. I hate that anyone has to suffer.

The new White House Website is up and running.

I read the speech and thought it was a good speech.

How are you-all and what is the consensus?

I thought it was good, as well. Not an earth-shaker, but good.

132 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:27:22pm

re: #111 MandyManners

I hope none of Charles' detractors saw those comments.

They would have to have been very, very fast. Stinky was alert.

As much as I disagree with Kennedy, I basically believe he has the interests of the US at heart. He might be misguided as to the best way the US should be run, but (leaving out a certain incident), I don't think he is evil.

I'll reserve wishing bad things on real terrorists.

133 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:27:37pm

re: #82 newsjunkie_ky

When senators or justices get so old or so ill that they can not do the job, but staffers must do it, they need to leave the office.

This is true and I would argue for that in a non-partisan sense as well (regardless of today's news about Kennedy and Byrd).

Term Limits were a big rage a few years back. It's too bad that idea lost steam, IMO. We should not have Senators who serve into their 90s.

134 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:27:49pm

re: #128 gmsc

OT: N.H. man who helped develop microwave oven dies


*DING* He's done.

Oh, no. You di'n't. Oh, my stars. I guffawed very loudly. Shame on me.

135 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:27:54pm
faraway
1/20/09 12:22:39 pm reply quote

.......and somewhere the Hannity nation is dancing and singing songs to their dark lord
from huffPo


Now there's some pure projection.... the textbook variety.

136 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:28:02pm

re: #128 gmsc

OT: N.H. man who helped develop microwave oven dies

*DING* He's done.

I don't know whether to ding you up, or report you.

137 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:28:12pm

Perks

A female personal trainer has helped French president Nicolas Sarkozy improve his sex life since his marriage to ex-supermodel Carla Bruni, it emerged today.

Julie Imperiali, 26, concentrates on strengthening the perinea muscles at the bottom of the 5ft 6ins head of state’s pelvis.

‘Sexual relations are better if the male perineum is in good shape,’ said Mrs Imperiali. ‘The problems of premature ejaculation are often due to the perineum.’

138 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:28:26pm

re: #130 IslandLibertarian

Try watching one from the inside. Scarier.........

Ugh - I imagine.

I know a woman whose seizures are so extreme they interfere with her memory. It's really terrifying for her.

139 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:28:34pm

The ABC News and Politico links are packed with offensive comments. Good thing they have layers of editors and monitors at those premier news sites.

140 yochanan  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:28:36pm

if your one of the evil ones such as the head of hamas, al quada, iran, hugo, or castor i have no problem with wishing them ill health, but i will not do it for american pol. leaders of main stream parties.

now with such scum as RAT PUKEANAN or THE SHE HAG I would have to think about it

141 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:28:38pm

LOL. MSNBC joking that President Obma must be "jonesing" for a nicoret right about now.

142 Devil's Advocate  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:28:55pm

Prosecuting Bush.

Youtube Video
143 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:28:59pm

re: #132 Kosh's Shadow

They would have to have been very, very fast. Stinky was alert.

As much as I disagree with Kennedy, I basically believe he has the interests of the US at heart. He might be misguided as to the best way the US should be run, but (leaving out a certain incident), I don't think he is evil.

I'll reserve wishing bad things on real terrorists.

His hanging out with Soviets made me doubt that completely. (Yes, I have a link but, I cannot find it.)

144 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:29:16pm

re: #120 Walter L. Newton

Can you elaborate?

perhaps better to not!

145 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:29:17pm

re: #134 MandyManners

Me, too.

I'm ashamed of myself.

146 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:29:24pm

re: #133 DeafDog

This is true and I would argue for that in a non-partisan sense as well (regardless of today's news about Kennedy and Byrd).

Term Limits were a big rage a few years back. It's too bad that idea lost steam, IMO. We should not have Senators who serve into their 90s.

Strom Thurmond?

147 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:29:29pm

re: #128 gmsc

OT: N.H. man who helped develop microwave oven dies

*DING* He's done.

Also totally OT:
The microwave oven, in Welsh, is 'popty ping' ...

('Popty' being welsh for 'oven'.)

148 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:29:32pm

re: #131 Wishing

I thought it was good, as well. Not an earth-shaker, but good.

It was interesting. I was working at the theatre this morning, and I was listening on a radio, and I noticed that twice, he made direct references to terrorist.

Unless I'm missing something, the radical Muslim world are not going to be too happy with his speech.

149 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:29:49pm

re: #127 Dianna

My son had a grand mal seizure in the summer and it was the scariest thing I have ever, ever gone through with him. At the time, it felt like the Angel of Death was hovering around in the room. It took me about a week to feel like myself again.

I would urge everyone to brush up on CPR/first aid-it's so important. You never know when you will be called upon by fate to use it-and a life can be saved because of you.

So-just as a public service note-if someone is seizing, lay them on their side, allowing their tongue to fall out so they don't choke on their tongue-don't try to put your hand down on their tongue...Never transport a seizing person on your own-always let paramedics transport to hospital.

Perhaps any paramedic/firemen or other first-aid trained lizards could add a few points.

150 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:29:56pm

re: #148 Walter L. Newton

It was interesting. I was working at the theatre this morning, and I was listening on a radio, and I noticed that twice, he made direct references to terrorist.

Unless I'm missing something, the radical Muslim world are not going to be too happy with his speech.

Lets hope not.

151 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:29:58pm

re: #130 IslandLibertarian

Try watching one from the inside. Scarier.........

i'll just take your word for it, thankyouverymuch.

treating them is bad enough.

152 faraway  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:29:59pm

re: #139 JammieWearingFool

The ABC News and Politico links are packed with offensive comments. Good thing they have layers of editors and monitors at those premier news sites.

We only have Charles the Blogger

153 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:30:03pm

re: #134 MandyManners

Oh, no. You di'n't. Oh, my stars. I guffawed very loudly. Shame on me.

Did you make a ding-ding-ding noise too?

154 PSGInfinity  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:30:15pm

re: #134 MandyManners

Oh, no. You di'n't. Oh, my stars. I guffawed very loudly. Shame on me.

Since I guffawed at your guffaw, is that a metaguffaw? Metashame?

155 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:30:29pm

re: #137 faraway

That is way too much information.

I just didn't need to read that.

156 Wishing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:30:38pm

re: #137 faraway

Perks

WTMI

157 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:31:14pm

re: #137 faraway

Perks

A female personal trainer has helped French president Nicolas Sarkozy improve his sex life since his marriage to ex-supermodel Carla Bruni, it emerged today.

Julie Imperiali, 26, concentrates on strengthening the perinea muscles at the bottom of the 5ft 6ins head of state’s pelvis.

That explains the pinched look on his face.

158 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:31:17pm

re: #128 gmsc

OT: N.H. man who helped develop microwave oven dies


*DING* He's done.

The man did good work.

The Microwave oven is my alltime favorite new technology during my lifetime.

The Internet is a close second.

Tivo is third.

159 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:31:21pm

re: #141 Creeping Eruption

LOL. MSNBC joking that President Obma must be "jonesing" for a nicoret right about now.

Why would you (a sensible-reasonable person) be watching MSNBC?

160 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:31:44pm

re: #145 Dianna

Me, too.

I'm ashamed of myself.

It truly was a knee-jerk reaction.

161 Dahveed  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:31:55pm

Best wishes to Sen. Kennedy.

162 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:31:56pm

re: #129 MandyManners

Huh? Those comments were deleted in short order. Am I missing a larger context?

Other comments BZ has made over the time he was here. Different threads and such.

With detractors, you can't win, as they have their own form of derangement syndrome. In this case, it's CDS.

163 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:31:57pm

re: #128 gmsc

OT: N.H. man who helped develop microwave oven dies

*DING* He's done.

Also OT:
The microwave oven, in Welsh, is 'popty ping', 'popty' being Welsh for oven ...

164 red satellite  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:32:04pm

Like the Bloody Red Baron and Snoopy on Christmas Day, I will suspend my political acrimony and ill will.

165 Digital Display  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:32:11pm

May the lord show great mercies to the Kennedy Family Today..
Give Sen Byrd strength to recover fully.

166 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:32:26pm

re: #133 DeafDog

This is true and I would argue for that in a non-partisan sense as well (regardless of today's news about Kennedy and Byrd).

Term Limits were a big rage a few years back. It's too bad that idea lost steam, IMO. We should not have Senators who serve into their 90s.

agreed x 2

167 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:32:29pm

re: #154 PSGInfinity

Both, I think.

168 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:32:33pm

re: #141 Creeping Eruption

LOL. MSNBC joking that President Obma must be "jonesing" for a nicoret right about now.

He is.
On FoxNews coverage, I just saw him stick a piece of gum in his mouth.

169 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:32:40pm

re: #137 faraway

The problems of premature ejaculation are often due to the perineum.’

And all this time I thought it was due to my extensive porn collection!

//

170 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:32:41pm

re: #125 Typicalwhitey

I must admit to feeling quite conflicted. Keeping in mind the warning from Charles in comment #2, I find myself thinking about the quality of life for Senator Kennedy. It cannot be very good, and my surmise is that he's in a considerable amount of pain.

171 Wishing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:32:43pm

re: #148 Walter L. Newton

It was interesting. I was working at the theatre this morning, and I was listening on a radio, and I noticed that twice, he made direct references to terrorist.

Unless I'm missing something, the radical Muslim world are not going to be too happy with his speech.

Agree, Walter, and I am sure they will test his resolve in short order.

172 crown_of_feathers  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:32:50pm

I'm afraid we will be seeing a Kennedy funeral in the next few months.

173 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:32:51pm

re: #124 ggt

Good Afternoon Lizards!

I hope Sen Kennedy is comfortable. He has to be disappointed he missed the rest of the festivities. I think he has only survived this long due to sheer willpower. I hate that anyone has to suffer.

The new White House Website is up and running.

I read the speech and thought it was a good speech.

How are you-all and what is the consensus?

I thought the speech was just plain depressing.

Everything in America is broken and we have to rebuild the country. Woe is us! Then we have the racist prayer from the pastor and a nonsensical, out of place poem with no relevance to the inauguration.

Let's just say that I'm not now inspired to go out and battle the many fewer (than the rest of the world) problems we do have.

174 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:33:07pm

re: #141 Creeping Eruption

LOL. MSNBC joking that President Obma must be "jonesing" for a nicoret right about now.

Looks like he picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.

/

175 spaceman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:33:25pm

re: #127 Dianna

They are a terrible thing. Hate Hate Hate them.

176 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:33:38pm

re: #136 unrealizedviewpoint

I don't know whether to ding you up, or report you.

oh please...that was funny

177 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:33:46pm

re: #160 MandyManners

It truly was a knee-jerk reaction.

I think it's that laugh you can't help. It's not appropriate, you know it's not, but you do it anyway.

I have a lot of those, particularly when talking to my mom.

178 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:33:48pm

re: #137 faraway

Those are Kegels, pregnant women do those exercises too.

179 HDrepub  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:34:21pm

re: #114 ssn697

"Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., just said that Kennedy "had a seizure and he's on his way to the hospital," USA TODAY's Kathy Kiely reports.

Kerry told Kathy that Byrd was helped from the room because he became upset about what was happening to his friend -- Kennedy. Byrd is otherwise fine, Kerry said."


Right, and I have beachfront property in AZ for sale too. Robert Byrd is Weekend at Bernie's personified

180 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:34:22pm

re: #177 Dianna

It was FUNNY! Give yourselves a break!

181 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:34:36pm

re: #110 tfc3rid

Agree that Obama seemed very shaken when he had to say a few words.

Well, if something like this event is rattling Obama, heaven forbid when something close to catastrophic happens. His colors are showing already. And no that was not a reference to skin color.

182 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:34:41pm

OT: The DOWn is holding 8000 nicely. It does drop below it but always seems to rally.

183 soccerdad  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:35:01pm

Charles states he 'will not tolerate any 'mocking' of Sen. Kennedy in this thread' but I think most, if not all of us would refrain anyway.

too bad Charles - or BHO - aka "The One" could not impose some decorum for our departing president:

Bush Mocked at Ceremony

pieces of little garbage. THIS is what we have to look forward to. jeez.

Oh -- I hope Kennedy fully recovers and my prayers are with his family. But if he doesn't there's always Caroline to carry on the Family biz. double jeeez!

184 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:35:09pm

re: #128 gmsc

OT: N.H. man who helped develop microwave oven dies

*DING* He's done.

You should be submitting that one to Fark. I, too, am ashamed to admit how hard I laughed.

185 kcladderman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:35:18pm

re: #111 MandyManners

I hope none of Charles' detractors saw those comments.

re: #149 WriterMom

# Stay calm
# Prevent injury
During the seizure, you can exercise your common sense by insuring there is nothing within reach that could harm the person if she struck it.
# Pay attention to the length of the seizure
# Make the person as comfortable as possible
# Keep onlookers away
# Do not hold the person down
If the person having a seizure thrashes around there is no need for you to restrain them. Remember to consider your safety as well
# Do not put anything in the person's mouth
Contrary to popular belief, a person having a seizure is incapable of swallowing their tongue so you can breathe easy in the knowledge that you do not have to stick your fingers into the mouth of someone in this condition.
Call 911

186 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:35:44pm

re: #109 Conservative in Liberal Hands

[ if one cannot say something nice, don;t say anything at all ]

It's what my mom taught me.......

187 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:35:45pm

re: #140 yochanan

if your one of the evil ones such as the head of hamas, al quada, iran, hugo, or castor i have no problem with wishing them ill health, but i will not do it for american pol. leaders of main stream parties.

now with such scum as RAT PUKEANAN or THE SHE HAG I would have to think about it

Those just deserve to be completely ignored by the press and anyone else. That, I think, would be quite a bit of punishment for them.

Now, I wish particularly nasty and painful deaths on all the leaders of Hamas, all their terrorists (except the kids who might be deprogrammed), Ahmadinejad, Samir Kuntar, Osama (should he still be alive), etc.
This is not a complete list.

188 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:35:47pm

re: #180 WriterMom

It was FUNNY! Give yourselves a break!

It was, but I felt bad about laughing at a death.

189 gmsc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:36:21pm

re: #184 doppelganglander

You should be submitting that one to Fark. I, too, am ashamed to admit how hard I laughed.

Where do you think I posted it first?

190 DaChew  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:36:22pm

I was going to suggest that a man in Ted's condition shouldn't be placing himself in this kind of situation. I mean, how bad a shadow on this day would it have been if he had died? Then I thought to myself, if I was Ted Kennedy, after all that I and my family had been through over the years (even the self-inflicted challenges), you couldn't have pryed me away from that inauguration with a crowbar. Hope he feels better.

191 kcladderman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:36:23pm

re: #164 red satellite

Like the Bloody Red Baron and Snoopy on Christmas Day, I will suspend my political acrimony and ill will.

you know I had forgotten all about that song. Then just last month I heard it again on the radio.

192 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:36:46pm

If I'm leader of the free world, I'll sneak off to smoke when I want.

193 quickjustice  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:36:58pm

Senator Kennedy is dying, whether he has a short-term recovery or not. Obama's victory is a huge win for the Kennedy clan, who chose Obama as their candidate in the Kennedys' struggle with the Clintons for control of the Democratic Party nationally. At least for now, the Kennedys are triumphant.

Senator Kennedy has lived to see that triumph. It may well be his last harrah.

194 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:37:08pm

re: #177 Dianna

I think it's that laugh you can't help. It's not appropriate, you know it's not, but you do it anyway.

I have a lot of those, particularly when talking to my mom.

Chuckles the Clown!

195 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:37:11pm

re: #146 MandyManners

Strom Thurmond?


He's one example.

Off the top of my head - Stevens, too, outstayed his welcome.

BTW - The greater risk of health problems is only one side of my dislike. Generally, I just don't like the idea of someone buying the office with pork, which is how these Senators for life operate. A Senate seat should not be a lifetime seat...like the House of Lords in England. We fought a revolution to rid of that kind of junk here.

196 PSGInfinity  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:37:13pm

re: #167 Dianna

Both, I think.

Darn. I was afraid of that.
(He pulls out a rosary and starts praying; three Hail Mary's, Glory to the Father, one Bloody Mary...)

197 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:37:19pm

Latest report is that Kennedy will be fine; apparently as they were wheeling Kennedy out, he flashed Sen. Hatch a smile; Sen. Dodd says that Kennedy's going to be fine.

198 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:37:28pm

re: #119 Honorary Yooper

Some of them may have. Some will hate him for letting BZ go so long. Others will hate him for deleting them and banning BZ. Either way, it's a lose-lose situation. The detractors will hate Charles no matter what he does or doesn't do.

Which is why, when all else fails....do the right thing.

199 Wishing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:37:37pm

re: #188 Dianna

It was, but I felt bad about laughing at a death.

Don't you think his family thought the same thing? I bet they did.

200 Picayune  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:37:41pm

Sen. Ted Kennedy is blessed with a devoted, very helpful wife, Vickie (his second). She is from a prominent Louisiana political family and a good gal.
She was my wife's (my first) roomie at Tulane, and I am glad for Teddy that they are together. She knows how to manage his life now, in a fine fashion. I wish them both the best, and a speedy recovery.

201 JacksonTn  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:37:47pm

re: #188 Dianna

It was, but I felt bad about laughing at a death.

Dianna ...I have been close to death a few times ...if I had lost my sense of humor about it all life would not be worth living ...give yourself a break ...laughter will get you through so much in life ...

202 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:37:56pm

re: #194 MandyManners

Chuckles the Clown!

Hilarious!

203 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:38:10pm

re: #185 kcladderman

I remember being told - firmly! - that it's safer to move things than try to hold the seizing person's head last time I took a refresher.

204 crown_of_feathers  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:38:28pm

re: #192 MandyManners

"If I'm leader of the free world, I'll sneak off to smoke when I want"

Yes - but you'll be sure not to inhale - just like our last Democrat boss.

205 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:38:29pm

re: #176 albusteve

oh please...that was funny

Amongst all the reporting and blocking conversation, I thought I was being cute. It was extremely funny. I nearly fell out of my chair. I chose ding-up, BTW.

206 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:38:31pm

re: #196 PSGInfinity

Darn. I was afraid of that.
(He pulls out a rosary and starts praying; three Hail Mary's, Glory to the Father, one Bloody Mary...)

South Pacific!

207 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:39:06pm

re: #192 MandyManners

If I'm leader of the free world, I'll sneak off to smoke when I want.

Commander Cody comes to mind....I dont like the idea that the POTUS cant concentrate because he's in a nic fit...jus sayin

208 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:39:15pm

re: #188 Dianna

Oh-we're not laughing at that person's death-obviously, that's sad for the family. But the joke was funny. And we all need a good laugh today.

209 jcm  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:39:15pm

re: #203 Dianna

I remember being told - firmly! - that it's safer to move things than try to hold the seizing person's head last time I took a refresher.

Just put something for padding under their head, especially if on a hard floor.

210 Wishing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:39:20pm

re: #189 gmsc

Where do you think I posted it first?

Comments are hysterical: "For the Viewing, will his casket be on a spinning platform?", etc.

211 nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:39:27pm

re: #193 quickjustice

Senator Kennedy is dying, whether he has a short-term recovery or not. Obama's victory is a huge win for the Kennedy clan, who chose Obama as their candidate in the Kennedys' struggle with the Clintons for control of the Democratic Party nationally. At least for now, the Kennedys are triumphant.

Senator Kennedy has lived to see that triumph. It may well be his last harrah.

No his last hurrah was to get his niece into the Senate.

212 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:39:38pm
213 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:39:43pm

re: #183 soccerdad

That's so embarrassing.

214 LC LaWedgie  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:39:52pm

Whoever the reporter on NBC said that it was a good thing the cameras weren't on him when he had his seizure so that it would forever be "emblazoned on our memory"

/channeling JFnK

215 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:40:13pm

I'm off, have a great afternoon Lizards!

216 vxbush  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:40:20pm

re: #149 WriterMom

My son had a grand mal seizure in the summer and it was the scariest thing I have ever, ever gone through with him. At the time, it felt like the Angel of Death was hovering around in the room. It took me about a week to feel like myself again.

I would urge everyone to brush up on CPR/first aid-it's so important. You never know when you will be called upon by fate to use it-and a life can be saved because of you.

So-just as a public service note-if someone is seizing, lay them on their side, allowing their tongue to fall out so they don't choke on their tongue-don't try to put your hand down on their tongue...Never transport a seizing person on your own-always let paramedics transport to hospital.

Perhaps any paramedic/firemen or other first-aid trained lizards could add a few points.

My son had one on his 21st birthday. It is gut wrenching, to say the least.

217 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:40:47pm

OT
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

Former Democratic President Jimmy Carter appeared to greet former Republican President George H.W. Bush and his wife warmly, kissing Barbara Bush on the cheek. But as Carter passed fellow Democrats Bill and Hillary Clinton, the two men did not appear to acknowledge each others presence at all. A total snub.

I've looked at the video 5 times. Carter could NOT have missed that Clinton was the next person in line. There's even someone there saying ",,, and President Bush and President Clinton"

218 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:40:52pm

re: #199 Wishing

Don't you think his family thought the same thing? I bet they did.

I have no idea.

It's been more than a year, and I'm still a bit tentative about making jokes about my dad's death.

219 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:41:01pm

Photo here of Byrd and Kennedy before the seizure.

Not for nothing and this isn't intended to be mean, but Byrd really should consider retirement.

220 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:41:10pm

re: #159 unrealizedviewpoint

Why would you (a sensible-reasonable person) be watching MSNBC?

Didn't Sun Tzu say something about knowing your enemy?

221 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:41:12pm

re: #216 vxbush

Poor thing. You know, I still can't even think about it without starting to cry.

222 Digital Display  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:41:14pm

re: #173 eschew_obfuscation

I thought the speech was just plain depressing.

Everything in America is broken and we have to rebuild the country. Woe is us! Then we have the racist prayer from the pastor and a nonsensical, out of place poem with no relevance to the inauguration.

Let's just say that I'm not now inspired to go out and battle the many fewer (than the rest of the world) problems we do have.

The speech was alright..He had some good lines..But that Poem!
I don't think I've ever heard that much bad poetry at one time in my life.. It was Horrid

223 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:41:15pm

re: #201 JacksonTn

Dianna ...I have been close to death a few times ...if I had lost my sense of humor about it all life would not be worth living ...give yourself a break ...laughter will get you through so much in life ...

Thanks.

224 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:41:18pm

This is just completely OT, but check out this link on Google Books. It's the 1905-06 exam book for students at McGill University.

This was for undergraduates, folks.

Sic transit gloria mundi.

225 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:41:34pm

re: #212 Iron Fist

While this isn't really the thread to discuss it, I think you are wrong about Kennedy. The KGB stuff wasn't just a momentary lapse of judgement. And his Senate record speaks for itself.

All I'm going to say.

OK; I had forgotten about it. But as you say, this isn't the thread to discuss it.

226 nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:41:59pm

re: #217 sattv4u2

OT
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

Former Democratic President Jimmy Carter appeared to greet former Republican President George H.W. Bush and his wife warmly, kissing Barbara Bush on the cheek. But as Carter passed fellow Democrats Bill and Hillary Clinton, the two men did not appear to acknowledge each others presence at all. A total snub.

I've looked at the video 5 times. Carter could NOT have missed that Clinton was the next person in line. There's even someone there saying ",,, and President Bush and President Clinton"

Well I'd have to take Clinton is a fight. Anyway I bet Carter fights like a girl.

227 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:42:07pm

I sincerely hope that both Kennedy and Byrd recover from these episodes. Politics mean little at times like this.

Good Afternoon Lizards!

228 kcladderman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:42:23pm

re: #203 Dianna

I remember being told - firmly! - that it's safer to move things than try to hold the seizing person's head last time I took a refresher.

Absolutely, you never try to hold down a seizing person. The only exception to that would be in very rare situations, the patient is is a place where they could fall while seizing then if possible you should try to keep them from falling by moving them or blocking their fall.

229 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:42:25pm

If he sticks to this promise, I won't complain.

"With old friends and former foes, we will work tirelessly to lessen the nuclear threat, and roll back the specter of a warming planet. We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

230 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:42:47pm

re: #219 JammieWearingFool

Photo here of Byrd and Kennedy before the seizure.

Not for nothing and this isn't intended to be mean, but Byrd really should consider retirement.

they should be retired by law....an absurd situation to say the least

231 ErnieG  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:42:53pm

re: #186 LGoPs

[ if one cannot say something nice, don;t say anything at all ]

It's what my mom taught me.......

Show of hands... How many thought of Momma when they first read the comment?

232 GreenDroll  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:43:00pm

Having lunch with Kerry would do that to me.
I hope Ted is OK.....

233 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:43:02pm

re: #218 Dianna

I don't think anyone is suggesting that the death of a loved one is funny, but I think it's great to be able to laugh at something that person would have found funny, and comforting to think that they would want you to be laughing, living and enjoying your life even though they are not here in this world with you. Who knows-perhaps they are laughing along with you, or waiting for that chance?

234 JacksonTn  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:43:15pm

re: #226 nevergiveup

Well I'd have to take Clinton is a fight. Anyway I bet Carter fights like a girl.

Would you take Hillary Clinton or Bill in a fight ...? I would bet on Hillary ...

235 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:43:26pm

re: #192 MandyManners

If I'm leader of the free world, I'll sneak off to smoke when I want.

Just get the guy the guy an ashtray.
If smoke bothers you, you're fired!
And I'm an ex-smoker (non-militant).

236 vxbush  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:43:37pm

re: #221 WriterMom

Poor thing. You know, I still can't even think about it without starting to cry.

We've been very lucky; since he's been on antiseizure meds, he hasn't had a repeat. I fear what will happen if he does. He has so much scar tissue in his brain it's a wonder anything works.

237 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:43:41pm
238 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:43:51pm

re: #228 kcladderman

Yes-I know someone whose daughter seized while at the top of a stairwell, and the injury from falling was worse than the seizure.

239 Semper Gumbi  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:44:05pm

re: #197 lawhawk

Latest report is that Kennedy will be fine; apparently as they were wheeling Kennedy out, he flashed Sen. Hatch a smile; Sen. Dodd says that Kennedy's going to be fine.

Have there been any reports from the medical establishment or family? Not that I don't trust the Senators, but I wouldn't put it past them to downplay Senator Kennedy's condition in order to not distract from the inaugeration.

240 nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:44:07pm

re: #234 JacksonTn

Would you take Hillary Clinton or Bill in a fight ...? I would bet on Hillary ...

Hilliary in a tko in 2.

241 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:44:16pm

re: #230 albusteve

they should be retired by law....an absurd situation to say the least

They should have been retired by the voting public long ago.

242 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:44:22pm

re: #236 vxbush

{vxbush and vxbush's son}

243 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:44:33pm

re: #220 Creeping Eruption

Didn't Sun Tzu say something about knowing your enemy?

Point taken. Thank you for your service.

244 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:45:02pm

re: #229 Walter L. Newton

If he sticks to this promise, I won't complain.

"With old friends and former foes, we will work tirelessly to lessen the nuclear threat, and roll back the specter of a warming planet. We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

SPECTRE is behind GW?....

245 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:45:02pm

re: #237 haavamaal

Shame about Ted. Don't like his politics, but I wish him well. On another note, Do you think Byrd had to leave because he was upset and distraught because of his friend Ted or the that the ex clans man just realized that Obama is black? I sometimes wonder. Hope I did not offend any one that is not my intent. Just a sick joke.

Bob

Yea, considering the topic of this thread, and what happen today in DC to these two men, it's offensive.

Jerk. (IMHO)

246 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:45:03pm

re: #235 unrealizedviewpoint

Just get the guy the guy an ashtray.
If smoke bothers you, you're fired!
And I'm an ex-smoker (non-militant).

ditto.

247 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:45:08pm

re: #189 gmsc

Where do you think I posted it first?

Good for you! Fark is fun as long as you avoid the political threads.

248 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:45:08pm

re: #228 kcladderman

I know you weren't my instructor at my last refresher, but you sound exactly like him!

249 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:45:14pm

I thinks it's very telling that comments need not be disabled on LGF.

250 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:45:22pm

Parody: Hamas Body Armour

Reality: AP Photo

A Hamas militant and his two children participate in a rally in Palestine Square in Gaza City, in the northern Gaza strip, Tuesday, Jan. 20, 2009.

251 PSGInfinity  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:45:24pm

re: #183 soccerdad

[Focusing SNIP]
too bad Charles - or BHO - aka "The One" could not impose some decorum for our departing president:
Bush Mocked at Ceremony
pieces of little garbage. THIS is what we have to look forward to. jeez.
[Focusing SNIP]

One of the things on the Right-To-Do List is to become much shorter with these knuckleheads, calling their childish behavior what it is, to their faces.

252 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:45:32pm

re: #229 Walter L. Newton

If he sticks to this promise, I won't complain.

"With old friends and former foes, we will work tirelessly to lessen the nuclear threat, and roll back the specter of a warming planet. We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I'm a bit uneasy about exactly who he is addressing.

253 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:45:40pm

re: #133 DeafDog

This is true and I would argue for that in a non-partisan sense as well (regardless of today's news about Kennedy and Byrd).

Term Limits were a big rage a few years back. It's too bad that idea lost steam, IMO. We should not have Senators who serve into their 90s.


Not partisan. Doesn't matter who it is when they can no longer do the job they need to go.

254 RaiderDan  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:45:43pm

Having lost my father to cancer last year, I have nothing but sympathy for Ted Kennedy and what his family must be going through right now.

I'm proud that so many Lizardim show so much class, unlike the empty Koskids haters who mocked President Bush with their juvenile chants.

You wonder how the Holocaust happened? Its when your heart is empty like those of Kos readers and you are unable to see humanity beyond a person's politics.

Beware, Koskids, Karma is a bitch.

255 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:45:46pm

re: #240 nevergiveup

Hilliary in a t ko in 2 seconds.

more realistic

256 mattm  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:45:48pm

Hope he gets well soon. which is more than moonbats will wish republicans.

257 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:46:16pm

re: #244 albusteve

SPECTRE is behind GW?....

Obviously, Dick Cheney is none other than Ernst Blofeld.

258 PSGInfinity  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:46:17pm

re: #213 Killgore Trout

That's so embarrassing.

The last eight years summed up in one incident.

259 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:46:19pm

re: #241 Ford_Prefect

They should have been retired by the voting public long ago.

you cant trust the public...they are an unruly mob....

260 quickjustice  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:46:23pm

re: #211 nevergiveup

As a New Yorker, I'm especially sensitive to the spectacle of a thoroughly unqualified woman (Caroline Kennedy) ascending to the U.S. Senate by virtue of her blood line. On the other hand, a seat in the U.S. Senate is an undemanding job that can be filled by a mediocrity, as the much of the current membership demonstrates.

The Kennedys have a lot to offer N.Y. Governor Paterson in exchange for the appointment of Caroline: plenty of money for his next election campaign, President Barack Obama to campaign for him, and the support of the U.S. government bureaucracy, including plenty of federal money to lubricate the governor's election. Former Clinton Administration HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo did something similar to help Hillary Clinton win her U.S. Senate seat by flooding N.Y. with HUD money for questionable "urban renewal" projects. This go-around will be no different.

261 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:46:44pm

re: #255 sattv4u2

more realistic

Yes, how long can a swift kick to the groin take, anyway?

262 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:46:44pm

re: #231 ErnieG

Show of hands... How many thought of Momma when they first read the comment?

Me! Mom would have said exactly that!

263 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:46:45pm

re: #128 gmsc

OT: N.H. man who helped develop microwave oven dies

*DING* He's done.

Twice today you made me lol.

264 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:46:55pm

re: #252 debutaunt

I'm a bit uneasy about exactly who he is addressing.

Well, why don't you just come right out an tell us who you feel he "may" be addressing?

265 Kragar  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:46:58pm

So I heard both Byrd and Kennedy were taken out. Is that correct?

266 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:47:24pm

re: #243 unrealizedviewpoint

Point taken. Thank you for your service.

No joke, but with all of the Lizards here who have actually served our country in the armed services (I have not), I feel uncomfortable with your comment. However, I get your point. :)

267 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:47:29pm

re: #261 OldLineTexan

Yes, how long can a swift kick to the groin take, anyway?

or a lamp to the head

268 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:47:32pm

re: #235 unrealizedviewpoint

Just get the guy the guy an ashtray.
If smoke bothers you, you're fired!
And I'm an ex-smoker (non-militant).

But, but, but, wait!

What about all the poor white house staff suffering from all that deadly second-hand smoke?! They have no choice about breathing that in! It's cruel beyond belief....
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

269 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:47:57pm
270 HDrepub  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:47:58pm

re: #259 albusteve

you cant trust the public...they are an unruly mob....

Beware of stupid people in large numbers.

271 vxbush  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:48:00pm

re: #242 WriterMom

{vxbush and vxbush's son}

You sweety!

272 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:48:12pm

re: #219 JammieWearingFool

Photo here of Byrd and Kennedy before the seizure.

Not for nothing and this isn't intended to be mean, but Byrd really should consider retirement.

There's been talk on the Hill about shooing Byrd aside as chair of Appropriations because he simply can't handle the workload. We might see an acceleration of that discussion after today.

273 Catttt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:48:13pm

Sounds like he was alert and talking, so that's a good sign.

I'd say - Sen. Kennedy - quit pushing yourself - get more rest - but that is not his style, so I'll just wish him quick recovery.

274 nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:48:15pm

re: #255 sattv4u2

more realistic

I don't know. Bill's got a pretty good chin. He might wobble but he never went down ( now that should leave the door open for a few comments).

275 PSGInfinity  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:48:22pm

re: #206 debutaunt

South Pacific!

Just IMAGINE a Ted Kennedy-based drinking game! :)
Not to sound TOO ghoulish, but perhaps after his wake?

276 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:48:27pm

It was inevitable, no?

Obama Sex Toy.

277 chicagodudewhotrades  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:48:37pm

re: #250 Killgore Trout

What type of weapon is in his left hand? It looks like a HK MP-5

278 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:48:47pm
279 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:48:48pm

re: #267 sattv4u2

or a lamp to the head

"If thine eye offend thee, pluck it out."

I don't think the back of Bill's head is the problem, here.

280 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:48:53pm

re: #257 Honorary Yooper

Obviously, Dick Cheney is none other than Ernst Blofeld.

we need to talk...grab the Cone of Silence over there...

281 deportman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:48:54pm

Kennedy should have retired and convalesced at home. But as a democrat he just cannot give up the power voluntarily. Hope he gets well, but also hope he retires and stays home, you know to get well...

282 Dianna  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:49:05pm

re: #233 WriterMom

It's because I have a morbid sense of humor - or, more accurately, I have an acute sense of the ridiculous, which stands in for my sense of humor.

It leads to these moments when people stare at me, their mouths hanging open.

I'm much, much more cautious in my typing.

(Mandy, don't mention last week! Please!)

283 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:49:29pm

re: #258 PSGInfinity

The last eight years summed up in one incident.


Excuse me?

284 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:49:45pm

re: #277 chicagodudewhotrades

I don't know but it looks new.

285 vxbush  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:49:53pm

re: #269 Iron Fist

My ex-wife was epileptic, but I never saw her have a siezure. Her's was petite mal, anyway. She had had to take medicine as a kid, but I don't remember if she was still on it or not.

We had a guy at Red Lobster that had a full-blown grand mal siezure. he looked like he was dying. He had it realy bad, and he'd just forgotten to take his medicine that day. He felt it coming on, and got off the line, which was good. There's way too much stuff to get hurt on on the line.

I think the hardest part for me was the breathing. It just sounded horrible. I'm sure Kennedy scared a lot of folks today.

286 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:50:26pm

re: #254 RaiderDan

Sorry for your loss.

287 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:50:31pm

Another OT: The NYT today has a full-page ad on the back page of section A. It's for a brand-new book by none other than Jimmy Carter, We Can Have Peace in the Middle East: A Plan That Will Work.

On Inauguration Day, when it officially becomes Obama's turn to take on this and other problems, this self-aggrandizing prick sticks his oar in the water yet again. Can we get a man-eating rabbit to gnaw on his toes, please?

288 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:50:42pm

re: #270 HDrepub

Beware of stupid people in large numbers.

we won!...lets riot!

289 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:50:58pm

re: #264 Walter L. Newton

Well, why don't you just come right out an tell us who you feel he "may" be addressing?

I apologize for expressing my unease out loud.

290 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:51:19pm

re: #276 Ben Hur

OH.
MY.
GAWD.

BEN you have too much time on your hands.

291 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:51:30pm
292 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:51:44pm

re: #239 Semper Gumbi

He's at a hospital (name not forthcoming just yet), but I expect he's probably going to get a full workup, including brain scans and blood work.

293 PSGInfinity  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:51:57pm

re: #244 albusteve

SPECTRE is behind GW?....

Well I certainly hope SOMEBODY'S behind him. for example, are these folks behind him?

294 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:52:10pm

re: #289 debutaunt

I apologize for expressing my unease out loud.

No, don't take me wrong. I was interested in your spin on the statement. That's why I asked.

295 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:52:10pm

re: #273 Catttt

Sounds like he was alert and talking, so that's a good sign.

I'd say - Sen. Kennedy - quit pushing yourself - get more rest - but that is not his style, so I'll just wish him quick recovery.

power is addictive...the jones can kill you

296 JustABill  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:52:10pm

re: #111 MandyManners

I hope none of Charles' detractors saw those comments.

I don't know, any website can attract its share of jerks. The difference is that something like that will stay up on Kos forever. Here it lasted 6 minutes, and cost someone their account.

Of course, I didn't actually see the offensive comment, so I could be way off base, but I don't think so...

297 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:52:13pm

re: #258 PSGInfinity

The last eight years summed up in one incident.

What happened? The link is blocked for me.......

298 Kragar  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:52:52pm

re: #292 lawhawk

He's at a hospital (name not forthcoming just yet), but I expect he's probably going to get a full workup, including brain scans and blood work.

All the best medical attention money can buy*

*members of the general public need not apply

299 shug  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:52:53pm

re: #128 gmsc

OT: N.H. man who helped develop microwave oven dies


*DING* He's done.

Will he be cremated or microwaved on high?

300 crown_of_feathers  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:52:58pm

re: #2 Charles

"I won't tolerate mean-spirited remarks about Kennedy in this thread"

Good.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm getting my recommended dose of schadenfreude from the following:

[Link: shawarmamayor.blogspot.com...]

301 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:53:42pm

re: #291 Iron Fist

It's good rhetoric, I'll grant you. The man has good speech writers, and he is usually pretty good on delivering them. But it is one thing to say. It is quite another to do.

I'm going to be watching what he does closely.

But, but, but, the msm is saying that the one wrote this sermon all by his lonesome.

302 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:54:10pm

re: #291 Iron Fist

It's good rhetoric, I'll grant you. The man has good speech writers, and he is usually pretty good on delivering them. But it is one thing to say. It is quite another to do.

I'm going to be watching what he does closely.

He wrote the speech himself. And that's stating the obvious, any politician can be held to what he says versus what he does.

And I wasn't even commenting on if he will or will not follow through on this statement, I was just suggesting that this comment is not going to sit very well with the radical Muslims who thought he was going to be a sucking up to them.

303 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:54:38pm

re: #183 soccerdad

Charles states he 'will not tolerate any 'mocking' of Sen. Kennedy in this thread' but I think most, if not all of us would refrain anyway.

too bad Charles - or BHO - aka "The One" could not impose some decorum for our departing president:

Bush Mocked at Ceremony

pieces of little garbage. THIS is what we have to look forward to. jeez.

Oh -- I hope Kennedy fully recovers and my prayers are with his family. But if he doesn't there's always Caroline to carry on the Family biz. double jeeez!

Classless troglodytes.

304 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:54:42pm

re: #296 JustABill

I don't know, any website can attract its share of jerks. The difference is that something like that will stay up on Kos forever. Here it lasted 6 minutes, and cost someone their account.

Of course, I didn't actually see the offensive comment, so I could be way off base, but I don't think so...

he was banned?

305 Wishing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:55:10pm

re: #299 shug

Will he be cremated or microwaved on high?

I am not sure they use the micro there.

306 yochanan  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:55:28pm

re: #226 nevergiveup

hillary could take dhimmi carter

307 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:55:40pm

OT but as I peruse the new White House website, I am looking at the policies of the Obama-Biden government...

Lo and behold I find this in the Foreign Policy section...

Talk to our Foes and Friends: Obama and Biden will pursue tough, direct diplomacy without preconditions with all nations, friend and foe. They will do the careful preparation necessary, but will signal that America is ready to come to the table and is willing to lead. And if America is willing to come to the table, the world will be more willing to rally behind American leadership to deal with challenges like confronting terrorism and Iran and North Korea's nuclear programs.

308 gmsc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:55:42pm

re: #297 LGoPs

What happened? The link is blocked for me.......

Oh, 0bama supporters were just displaying their usual level of class....

FINAL ABUSE... Bush Mocked As He Arrives at Inauguration

U.S. President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney watch Barack Obama during the inauguration of Obama as the 44th President of the United States in Washington, January 20, 2009. (REUTERS/Rick Wilking)

The Hill reported, via Drudge:

The crowd packed on the west side of the Capitol grounds serenaded President Bush in mocking fashion when he took to the inaugural stage alongside Vice President Dick Cheney.

"Nah nah nah nah, hey hey, good-bye," a section of the crowd chanted.

The crowd packed immediately below the podium received Bush in stony silence when he took his seat on the stage surrounding the podium where Barack Obama was scheduled to take the oath office to become the 44th president of the United States.

The jeers are among the final public feedback Bush will receive as president.

First Lady Laura Bush and Lynne Cheney received light applause when they were announced to the crowd.

Bush is scheduled to depart from the East Front of the Capitol by helicopter after the swearing-in ceremony.

Obama received the loudest sustained cheers from thousands who chanted his name.

And, once again it didn't matter that his daughters were there to witness the abuse...

309 kcladderman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:56:01pm

re: #233 WriterMom

I don't think anyone is suggesting that the death of a loved one is funny, but I think it's great to be able to laugh at something that person would have found funny, and comforting to think that they would want you to be laughing, living and enjoying your life even though they are not here in this world with you. Who knows-perhaps they are laughing along with you, or waiting for that chance?

I actually chuckled during my sis in laws service. Now understand she was a friend and a sister for over 30 years so its not just an in law joke.
We always laughed and made jokes about her very very raspy voice. It was even worse when she was trying to speak loudly . Well just as I was looking at her my mind wandering through the things we had shared over the years I was thinking of the jokes about her voice, the song that was playing had the line"When they hear your sweet voice sing".

310 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:56:23pm

re: #294 Walter L. Newton

No, don't take me wrong. I was interested in your spin on the statement. That's why I asked.

I'm uneasy about who he is, as he's shown a discomfort about being an American. I'm concerned that he doesn't have our best interests at heart. I sincerely hope I'm completely wrong, but feel the need to second guess him. I'm uneasy.

311 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:57:08pm

re: #307 tfc3rid

OT but as I peruse the new White House website, I am looking at the policies of the Obama-Biden government...

Lo and behold I find this in the Foreign Policy section...

Boy, is he in for a rude awakening.

312 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:57:11pm

re: #308 gmsc

I want some payback....am I a bad person?...the left knows no bounds and needs a lesson in decency

313 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:57:21pm

re: #308 gmsc

Thanks. Low-life bastards.......

314 latingent  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:57:28pm

Lost my Dad to a brain tumor in 85`. If this is a worsening then let it be quick. Can`t stand his politics, but NOBODY should have to go like this.

315 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:57:34pm

re: #287 Cato the Elder

Another OT: The NYT today has a full-page ad on the back page of section A. It's for a brand-new book by none other than Jimmy Carter, We Can Have Peace in the Middle East: A Plan That Will Work.

On Inauguration Day, when it officially becomes Obama's turn to take on this and other problems, this self-aggrandizing prick sticks his oar in the water yet again. Can we get a man-eating rabbit to gnaw on his toes, please?

His book probably has a plan like this one I wrote when he visited Mashaal. It is dated a little, because I wrote it during the campaign:

Carter, Mashaal Announce Plan for Mideast Peace

Damascus. (CNN – Caliphate-Nazi News)

Former President Jimmy Carter and Hamas Leader Khaled Mashaal announced the final solution for Mideast peace. Hamas and Syria have agreed to recognize the state of Israel, after Carter's plan is put into motion.

The plan involves the Israeli government being taken over by the UN and the US State Department. “This is the culmination of all the years of my presidency,” the Nobel Peace Prize winner Carter said. “We all agree the problem that is preventing peace in the Mideast is that Israel is run by Jews; therefore, by replacing their government with one that is willing to understand the concerns of their neighbors, there will be peace.”

The Jews will still have rights to a homeland, but they will be concentrated in the Negev. “The Jews were able to make the desert bloom, so they should be quite comfortable in the camps that will be constructed there,” said former President Carter.

Reaction from world leaders was strong approval.

US Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice said “I salute former President Carter for his effort, and look forward to my new position as Prime Minister of Israel.” She then left just as the Israeli press arrived, having been forced to enter through the back door.

Barack Obama cheered the result. “I have known for 20 years that a solution like this was needed; finally there will be peace. I have offered former President Carter the position of Secretary of State, when I win the election.” He also said that he would now go under the name B. Hussein Obama.

Hillary Clinton also praised the deal but said “I had almost negotiated this deal, while under rocket fire, but the signed papers disappeared when I went to ask Bill about a stained blue burkha that I found under the desk in the meeting tent.”

John McCain, the Republican nominee for President, said something different, showing he is out of touch with world opinion.

“The UN, the Ummah of Nations, strongly supports this peace treaty.” Secretary General Ban Ki-Moonbat also said, “We have already recognized Mahmoud Abbas as the Israeli ambassador to the UN, and he will be moving in 'as soon as the stench is gone' from the rooms formerly occupied by Jews.”

The president of Iran, Ahmadinejad, said “We welcome this development, but we will not cease in our peaceful nuclear program as long as a single Jew remains alive.”

Hugo Chavez, president of Venezuela, also praised the accord. “Venezuela is pleased the world has come to understand the problems of our world. We have started rounding up Venezuelan Jews to send them to the new camps in Israel.”

The Saudi Arabian government issued a statement that “In honor of these historic accords, we will call for a 'free gas' day once they are implemented. We will even give Jews free gas, but of a very special kind.”

Adolph Hitler could not be reached for comment.

316 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:57:57pm

And then there is this...

Strengthen the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty: Obama and Biden will crack down on nuclear proliferation by strengthening the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty so that countries like North Korea and Iran that break the rules will automatically face strong international sanctions.

And this...

Move Toward a Nuclear Free World: Obama and Biden will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons, and pursue it.

317 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:58:07pm

re: #145 Dianna

Me, too.

I'm ashamed of myself.

I hope that someone can be as witty about my demise. There is nothing like bringing a little laughter to someones life, and if someone can do that using my end as a springboard, more power to them.

318 Irish Rose  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:58:09pm

You don't have to like him.

But try to remember that he's a husband, father, grandfather and (I think) great-grandfather. His death is going to leave a gaping, painful hole in the lives of a lot of people who have nothing to do with Washington politics.

So show some charity, show some class, and wish him well.

319 PSGInfinity  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:58:13pm

re: #283 newsjunkie_ky

Excuse me?

Referring to the taunting of (now former) President Bush by the crowd at the ceremony. Childish, inappropriate, immature, thoughtless, rude. Kinda' like how they acted for eight years.

320 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:58:17pm

re: #312 albusteve

I want some payback....am I a bad person?...the left knows no bounds and needs a lesson in decency

Then continue in being decent.

321 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:58:42pm

re: #318 Irish Rose

You don't have to like him.

But try to remember that he's a husband, father, grandfather and (I think) great-grandfather. His death is going to leave a gaping, painful hole in the lives of a lot of people who have nothing to do with Washington politics.

So show some charity, show some class, and wish him well.

no

322 JHW  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:58:50pm

Several years ago, I witnessed a man have a Grand Mal seizure in a
Spar tree, those of us there were only novices in this type of thing and we didn't have extra sets of climbing spurs on the ground to go up and help him, had to wait some time till another climber was brought on site. Imagine trying to rescue him 140 feet or so above the ground. It was done successfully, needless to say this employee was barred from doing this kind of work in the future.

323 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:59:05pm

re: #276 Ben Hur

It was inevitable, no?

Obama Sex Toy.

That. Is. So. Wrong. In. So. Many. Ways.

324 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 12:59:27pm

re: #321 albusteve

no

Are you seriously saying that you don't wish Ted Kennedy well?

325 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:00:00pm

re: #323 Honorary Yooper

That. Is. So. Wrong. In. So. Many. Ways.

You're right. It's too short!

326 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:00:00pm

re: #320 Walter L. Newton

Then continue in being decent.

yeah I know....injustice really pisses me off tho...it's unAmerican somehow

327 Alaska Kim  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:00:02pm

Howdy, Lizards.

328 JustABill  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:00:08pm

re: #304 albusteve

he was banned?

Sounds that way to me. If I am wrong, someone please correct me...

329 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:00:08pm

re: #307 tfc3rid

OT but as I peruse the new White House website, I am looking at the policies of the Obama-Biden government...

Lo and behold I find this in the Foreign Policy section...

Talk to our Foes and Friends: Obama and Biden will pursue tough, direct diplomacy without preconditions with all nations, friend and foe.


But didn't 0bama say

that we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist.


Seems like a precondition to me, and a reasonable one.
So I guess he's going back on his speech already

330 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:00:14pm

re: #311 Ford_Prefect

Boy, is he in for a rude awakening.

"Rahm, it's Barry. Why are Medvedev, Putin and Achmedinejad eating my lunch?"

331 Kragar  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:00:28pm

re: #317 CyanSnowHawk

I hope that someone can be as witty about my demise. There is nothing like bringing a little laughter to someones life, and if someone can do that using my end as a springboard, more power to them.

When I go, I hope its like Grandpa, quietly in my sleep.

Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

332 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:00:32pm

The cease fire is working out great....
Muqata

8:29 PM Some of you may recall that I said that some of the rocket strikes were a bit ironic. Now that there is a lull (tahidya) it's probably OK to tell you all. At least 3 of the rockets hit Yitzchak Rabin Street - but in 3 different cities.

In other news, 9 mortars and rockets hit Israel today, and the IAF attacked the Kassam rocket sources.

It was finally acknowledged that IDF troops were shot at today at the Kissufim junction in 2 separate incidents.

It is unlikely that Israel will respond in force to these attacks before elections.

5:30 PM Channel 10 Israel TV reports (Alon Ben David). Despite the 2 shooting incidents today against IDF troops by Hamas, (and at least one confirmed mortar launch) Israel will not retaliate until after the Israeli elections.

333 jcbunga  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:00:54pm

Sounds like he is doing better, so says Fox.

When the news was not good earlier, Chris "Tingly Leg" Matthews said, and I quote "We in the media of course knew this was a terminal situation but out of respect for the family kept it to ourselves. Obviously, a grim outlook."

How many titles for Dumbest Bastard on the Planet are we allowed to convey?

I'm up to 6.

Back to Teddy--

I saw him once, running around the Capital halls like a fiend, arms jammed with papers and folders, beet red in the face. I was amazed. He clearly was working hard, no staff along to assist.

Prayers for his recovery.

334 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:01:06pm

re: #319 PSGInfinity

Referring to the taunting of (now former) President Bush by the crowd at the ceremony. Childish, inappropriate, immature, thoughtless, rude. Kinda' like how they acted for eight years.


K. thanks for clearing that up for me. the loons make me ill.

335 Perplexed  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:01:08pm

'That foggy feeling from anti-seizure medication' makes life difficult for many epileptics. Always felt like I had had a couple beers too many when on either dilantin or tegritol. Gradually withdrew from the medications and made sure I get enough sleep (my trigger) and have been seizure free for nearly ten years.

Ted faces a rough way to go and the seizures leave you feeling as though you had just been mugged. You find muscles where you didn't know you had muscles and the ever present threat of destroying other organs makes life hard for epileptics.

336 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:01:12pm

re: #324 Walter L. Newton

Are you seriously saying that you don't wish Ted Kennedy well?

I'm indifferent...I don't like to see people suffer if that counts

337 chicagodudewhotrades  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:01:16pm

re: #316 tfc3rid

How the hell does someone un-invent something? That 'world without nukes' talk is just plain stupid

338 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:01:19pm

re: #331 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LOL

339 bulwrk  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:01:23pm

It would appear that BDS is not going away anytime soon.



No War Criminals in my Neighborhood!
Are you aware that on January 20th, a War Criminal will be moving into YOUR neighborhood?

It doesn't seem right that a "war criminal" will be moving into our neighborhood on Jan, 21, 2008.

If America is to redeem itself in the eyes of the world, we must show we intend to hold George W Bush accountable for the crimes he and his administration have committed.

And the people of Dallas must lead the way.

We need to raise our voice and demandaccountability for the carnage this man has caused: billions squandered and the priceless and irreplaceable loss of innocent lives in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere.

This is a call for a demonstration on Tuesday Jan 20, the day before Bush takes up residence in our city.

When: Tuesday, January 20 at 4:00pm - 7:00pm
Where: Mockingbird Lane bridge @ Central Expressway

Sponsored by : Hadi Jawad, Codepink of Greater Dallas ( Nancy Cunningham), Crawford Peace House, Johnny Wolf

340 PSGInfinity  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:02:01pm

re: #297 LGoPs

What happened? The link is blocked for me.......

The link did work here, but no matter. I was referring to soccerdad's calling out the calumny heaped upon the outgoing president by the oh-so-sophisticated lefty jerks near the podium.

341 tfc3rid  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:02:10pm

re: #339 bulwrk

These people just need to leave President Bush alone now.

342 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:02:21pm
343 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:03:25pm
344 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:03:30pm

When my grandmother died we had some laughs at her funeral.

She had been a good mother and a good woman, and there was nothing left but sweetness and happiness. Well, mourning, but no bitterness or regrets.

The funniest moment was when my uncle, in his eulogy, meant to say that his mother had been supportive of him in his life. What he said was, "I can't think of anything I did that my mother didn't approve of."

One of my aunts, sitting in the front row, raised her hand.

When Senator Kennedy goes, I hope his children will be as at peace with it as my mother, aunts, and uncle were.

345 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:03:30pm
Omnipotent and eternal God, the everlasting Salvation of those who believe, hear us on behalf of Thy sick servant, Edward, for whom we beg the aid of Thy pitying mercy, that, with his bodily health restored, he may give thanks to Thee in Thy church. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.
346 Picayune  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:03:41pm

re: #281 deportman

Kennedy should have retired and convalesced at home. But as a
democrat he just cannot give up the power voluntarily. Hope he gets
well, but also hope he retires and stays home, you know to get well...

Just think, the prize that always alluded him - POTUS. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride. But many Repub. Senators consistently speak warmly of him, acknowledging his legislative skills as top notch. Politics is a tough biz to be in, lots of downside - IMO.

347 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:03:58pm

re: #339 bulwrk

I'd love to see the size of the turnout for this tantrum.

348 RedPepper  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:04:22pm

re: #333 jcbunga

I can actually hear Matthews in my head saying that.

What a maroon ...

349 HDrepub  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:04:23pm

re: #312 albusteve

I want some payback....am I a bad person?...the left knows no bounds and needs a lesson in decency

The left has not yet learned that in this country you don't take power when elected, you are only loaned it, for as long as the people are happy or term limits. When the people become displeased, the privilege is taken away.

350 Wishing  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:04:46pm

re: #321 albusteve

no

Sadly, I have one one down-ding to give.

351 jcbunga  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:05:17pm

re: #339 bulwrk

It would appear that BDS is not going away anytime soon.


No War Criminals in my Neighborhood!
Are you aware that on January 20th, a War Criminal will be moving into YOUR neighborhood?

It doesn't seem right that a "war criminal" will be moving into our neighborhood on Jan, 21, 2008.

If America is to redeem itself in the eyes of the world, we must show we intend to hold George W Bush accountable for the crimes he and his administration have committed.

And the people of Dallas must lead the way.

We need to raise our voice and demandaccountability for the carnage this man has caused: billions squandered and the priceless and irreplaceable loss of innocent lives in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere.

This is a call for a demonstration on Tuesday Jan 20, the day before Bush takes up residence in our city.

When: Tuesday, January 20 at 4:00pm - 7:00pm
Where: Mockingbird Lane bridge @ Central Expressway

Sponsored by : Hadi Jawad, Codepink of Greater Dallas ( Nancy Cunningham), Crawford Peace House, Johnny Wolf



This would appear to qualify as a rush to judgment.

352 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:06:22pm

I do believe that Kennedy was truly happy to see a black man elected president, which is why he probably pushed himself to be there today. Civil rights were always important to the Kennedys.

353 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:06:30pm

Boy...the market was full of hope & change today...Dow off 322, S&P off effectively 45, Compx off 88.

What'a grand Obauguration.

354 PSGInfinity  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:06:31pm

re: #334 newsjunkie_ky

K. thanks for clearing that up for me. the loons make me ill.

No Problem. Glad to be of help!

355 fmfnavydoc  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:06:48pm

I'm not a fan of either Byrd's or Kennedy's politics, but I wish them both well, especially since they are both in poor health, and have been leaders in the Senate for so long.

Question: Wouldn't it be best for both men to step down from their Senate seats due to their health issues...I wonder if they realize that they may be hurting their constituents by staying in office ?

356 Texas Heathen  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:06:57pm

re: #339 bulwrk

GO F*CK YOURSELF CODEPINK AND HADI JAWAD

357 albusteve  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:07:14pm

re: #350 Wishing

Sadly, I have one one down-ding to give.

dont be sad...I'm simply neutral about it

358 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:07:47pm
359 PSGInfinity  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:08:06pm

re: #344 EmmmieG

When my grandmother died we had some laughs at her funeral.

She had been a good mother and a good woman, and there was nothing left but sweetness and happiness. Well, mourning, but no bitterness or regrets.

The funniest moment was when my uncle, in his eulogy, meant to say that his mother had been supportive of him in his life. What he said was, "I can't think of anything I did that my mother didn't approve of."

One of my aunts, sitting in the front row, raised her hand.

When Senator Kennedy goes, I hope his children will be as at peace with it as my mother, aunts, and uncle were.

Lots of warmth at our "Granma E's" funeral as well. Some folks are irreplaceable, and she and her husband allen were certainly in that category.

360 Picayune  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:08:32pm

re: #287 Cato the Elder

Perhaps our new SOS (to be) Hillary will can his a$$, for good. Bill's still got to be pissed at Carter launching his own diplomacy efforts in the early 90's, without approval (NK). (just doing his thing, ya know.)

361 jcbunga  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:08:42pm

...any excuse to see honest to goodness military bands.

Our troops never disappoint no matter the task.

362 Twenglish  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:11:16pm

I thought Bush remained very poised during the entire inauguration , and unshaken despite the rude BDS bravado coming from the west lawn moonbats .

Can you imagine that sort of thing happening to Obama in 4 years time ?

If the One gets jeered like that at the next Inauguration , they will wind up carrying Chris Matthews and the entire MSM out on a stretcher ...

363 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:11:26pm

re: #352 EmmmieG

I do believe that Kennedy was truly happy to see a black man elected president, which is why he probably pushed himself to be there today. Civil rights were always important to the Kennedys.

Didn't the kennedys spy on MLK Jr?

364 Kaymad  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:12:53pm

Poor Ted, I can totally sympathise. Before my seizures were controlled I often became the entertainment at various events and in public places. At least now I don't have to entertain my kids by showing them my mangled tongue.

365 Perplexed  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:14:41pm
Civil rights were always important to the Kennedys.

They may have paid lip service to civil rights, but it was the Republicans of that era who really wanted civil rights. Most Democrats wanted nothing to do with civil rights. Read some of LBJ's speeches to the Senate. He was a dyed in the wool racist who's (not so)Great Society program did more to hurt minorities than any other government program.

366 Perplexed  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:15:44pm

re: #364 Kaymad

Poor Ted, I can totally sympathise. Before my seizures were controlled I often became the entertainment at various events and in public places. At least now I don't have to entertain my kids by showing them my mangled tongue.

Chewing gum helps with the healing of mangle tongues. Not very pleasant.

367 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:15:59pm

go ahead laugh about microwave guy but he did more for humanity then Teddy Kennedy ever did.

368 Twenglish  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:16:21pm

Charles,

Cleanup on Aisle #339 .

Someone mus have ran off from the funny farm again ....

Lizards if you are reading this , keep all sharp objects away from the person on aisle #339

We'll snake a tube down his throat and inject him with 1500 mg of Thorazine quick just for safety's sake ...

roflmao

369 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:17:27pm

re: #368 Twenglish

Charles,

Cleanup on Aisle #339 .

Someone mus have ran off from the funny farm again ....

Lizards if you are reading this , keep all sharp objects away from the person on aisle #339

We'll snake a tube down his throat and inject him with 1500 mg of Thorazine quick just for safety's sake ...

roflmao

You have perhaps confused the news item with the messenger.

370 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:17:38pm

re: #197 lawhawk

Chris must have sneaked him a Chivas into the ambulance

371 Picayune  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:20:47pm

re: #342 Iron Fist

re: #302 Walter L. Newton

I'm very skeptical that he wrote the speech himself. All Presidents, even Reagan, use speech writers. There's nothing shameful about it. It is SOP.

If Obama did
write it, well, good for him. It is a good speech, but it is still
going to have to be backed by actions. I know Biden got a measure of
hell for saying it, but I agree with him that Obama is going to be
tested by our enemies. Probably very soon.

He's been running for the Office for the last two years, and there is nothing that he has done that gives me any confidence that he is capable of leading this country through the troubled times we are in.

Check his new White House web site. Right on top it states: "White House.gov will be a central part of
President Obama's pledge to make his
the most transparent and accountable
administration in American history."

Starting tomorrow, I bet ya, he goes behind very closed doors for the next several weeks, making deals to line up his agenda, in private. Look at the bow shot he got from Miss Nancy 2 days ago. Game on, and it will not be "most transparent".

372 blackisright  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:23:25pm

Speed recovery to both men.

373 Spider Mensch  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:23:40pm

ok...funeral laughs...my grand father was a real joker. Him and my grandmother went to a funeral for one of her relatives many years ago..maybe the 20's or 30's...anyhow in those days for some reason it was customary for the immediate family to return later to the gravesite after the graveside funeral service, don't ask me why, I have no idea. But in those days when a family memeber died it was not uncommon for the body to be laid out in the house before actual burial. so they go back to the gravesite, the box is in the hole, but not covered over yet..so my grandfather being the wise ass he was, leans over the hole, and yells down something like " hey! how's it going down there?" to get a laugh. as he's doing this, his cigars in front pocket fall in the hole and land on top of the casket. they were $1 cigars and that was real expensive in those days. So my grand father climbs into the grave to get his cigars. then the problem started...he couldn't climb back out. he wasn't a real tall guy. the rest of the family is laughing their ass off, my grand mother cursing him and embarassed as hell..they finally found one of the cemetary workers who went and got a ladder to put in the hole so he could climb out. a family story that will live on thru the ages..:)

374 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:23:59pm

re: #229 Walter L. Newton

If he sticks to this promise, I won't complain.

"With old friends and former foes, we will work tirelessly to lessen the nuclear threat, and roll back the specter of a warming planet. We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

it'll be the first promise he ever keeps..... so don't hold your breath.

375 DEPORTMAN  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:25:35pm

I guess it's not a tough biz when your opposition continually praises you and you are not, ever, required to compromise.re: #346 Picayune

376 NY Nana  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:26:25pm

I just heard that the Grand Mal seizures lasted from 5-10 minutes. With a glioblastoma multiforme, that is not good. I am more sure now that the malignancy, sadly is metastacizing.

He has been a true gentleman about his illness. For whatever I think of him, he has been the father to his 2 assassinated brothers' children for so many years. He did not have to do it. The number of tragedies in the Kennedy family boggle the mind.

His personal life has been repugnant in so many ways, but I cannot imagine what all the deaths, etc., and being the son of a Jew hating, nazi-loving father did. Amazingly, none of the Kennedy sons and daughters are like this.

Not all families have a man who survived a plane crash in 1964, and through it all fought back.

With all their millions, he could have sat back and lived the life of the very rich and famous. He did choose to serve, not just to sit on his ass.

He has done some good, and that is what we should remember, and wish him a Refuah Shlema..a complete healing.

377 Picayune  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:33:37pm

re: #375 DEPORTMAN

That's very true. I was thinking of murdered in office, or having you or your family ruined due to obsessive power grabs by opponents. Look at Palin these days. This is why my father told me he refused open doors to the US Senate.
He cared more about his family (his wife & nine kids), than personal ambition.

Even with all the privileges and perks, Teddy's life has been no bed of roses in many respects, and I don't agree with any of his policies.

378 DEPORTMAN  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:35:28pm

re: #377 Picayune

OK, well stated. I would agree.

379 Picayune  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:39:36pm

re: #378 DEPORTMAN

Thanks, its nice to find any agreement on this day.

Bummer, my office just called, go to run, maybe I'll log on downtown. Later.

380 FinallyHere  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:43:36pm

Being superstitious I do not like three collapses on this day: Kennedy, Byrd, and market ( I wish all three of them to get better soon), leave alone that oath mishap no matter whose fault it was.

381 pittrader1988  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:46:17pm

I feel badly for both men. I agreed with none of their policies.

However, this brings up a very good point. When folks like Strom Thurmond, Robert Byrd, Kennedy are in office in the shape that they are in (in the case of Strom, was in!) they really cannot fulfill the duties of the office. Byrd cannot speak, he cannot walk, he cannot hear. It is debatable if he has the capacity to grasp the issues at hand. Can he really engage in a dialogue about domestic policy regarding derivatives? Doubt it. Both Kennedy and Byrd ought to resign out of the respect to the office, and the country. Thurmond should have too.

I was in DC and ran into Thurmond coming out of the Senate. He was supported (carried), by two aids and looked to be in a lot of pain from being carried. There is no way that he was capable of being a Senator. We have an age limit for the bottom end of being a Senator, we ought to have an age limit for the top end. We also ought to say if you have an incurable illness, it's in the best interest of the country to resign.

In the case of a President, there is a structure in place to take care of these things. If Obama were to be diagnosed with lung cancer, Biden would take over. If Kennedy goes down, no one can pick up the ball.

382 Digital Display  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:47:07pm

re: #376 NY Nana
You know.. I think the Kennedy Family may be cursed..So many bad things have happened to the Kennedy's over the years.. It's Baffling really.
Hope Teddy pulls through ok.

383 Amer-I-Can  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:48:16pm

Thoughts and Prayers, Senator... Thoughts and Prayers

384 Hengineer  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:48:32pm

Good luck and prayers are with Senator Kennedy and the Kennedy clan dealing with this.

Chances are he doesn't have long, even though we all hope it otherwise (political differences aside)

385 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:49:27pm
386 Hengineer  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:50:47pm

re: #381 pittrader1988

I feel badly for both men. I agreed with none of their policies.

However, this brings up a very good point. When folks like Strom Thurmond, Robert Byrd, Kennedy are in office in the shape that they are in (in the case of Strom, was in!) they really cannot fulfill the duties of the office. Byrd cannot speak, he cannot walk, he cannot hear. It is debatable if he has the capacity to grasp the issues at hand. Can he really engage in a dialogue about domestic policy regarding derivatives? Doubt it. Both Kennedy and Byrd ought to resign out of the respect to the office, and the country. Thurmond should have too.

I was in DC and ran into Thurmond coming out of the Senate. He was supported (carried), by two aids and looked to be in a lot of pain from being carried. There is no way that he was capable of being a Senator. We have an age limit for the bottom end of being a Senator, we ought to have an age limit for the top end. We also ought to say if you have an incurable illness, it's in the best interest of the country to resign.

In the case of a President, there is a structure in place to take care of these things. If Obama were to be diagnosed with lung cancer, Biden would take over. If Kennedy goes down, no one can pick up the ball.

Not so sure about an age limit, perhaps there should be a "Health and Physical" test done to all senators, regardless of age. I've known some pretty spry 70 year olds that could whup the pants off of some 50 year olds I know. Granted the 77 year old I remember was a merchant marine engineer for almost all of his life, so climbing up and down stairs, crawling up in piping does well to keep you fit.

387 thefallingman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:51:09pm

Although I strongly disagree with Kennedy and Byrd on, well, pretty much everything, I wish them both well and a speedy recovery.

388 thefallingman  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 1:54:24pm

re: #386 Hengineer
Agreed. I know an 89 year old retired Marine (and Korean Vet) who could run circles around my 72 year old father. Also, what if a 45 year old Senator has a car wreck and suffers severe brain damage? There needs to be some sort of test or method of removal in the event of incapacitation.

389 pittrader1988  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 2:05:07pm

re: #386 Hengineer


I think that you can find exceptions to the rule. I know some 20 year olds that would make better Representatives and Senators than what we have.

Statistics show that after a certain elder age, you don't think as well. Even seasoned stock traders that have been involved in markets their entire lives say they don't think as fast as they used to, so they leave younger people to manage their money after a certain age.

I don't know where that cut off is, but I assume it's between the ages of 80-85. I think that is a good time for them to hang it up. Problem is, suppose you are 78, and running for another Senate term? Everyone would know from day one you are a lame duck. It would make a difference for committee chairs, and because we run our system as a pork barrel system-it would affect the state the representative came from.

390 Barbara Skolaut  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 2:13:59pm
Latest word is that Kennedy and Robert Byrd (who also collapsed) are both doing better...

Pity, that.

391 right_wing2  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 2:15:46pm

Thoughts & prayers for both men

392 calcajun  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 2:25:46pm

I am glad they are both OK. Don't care much for them politically, but don't want the day marred by tragedy.

393 badger1970  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 2:28:06pm

re: #280 albusteve

I thought that was K.A.O.S. Or did I miss it by that much.

394 USBeast  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 2:30:41pm

I have prayed for many things in this life. One of the things I've prayed for is that Senator Edward Kennedy would get his head handed to him in a fair election.

I wish him full and complete recovery.

395 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 2:33:49pm

What a terrible thing to happen on a day that should have been quite wonderful for the Kennedy family.

I again hope that he will retire and enjoy the remainder of his time with his family.

396 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 2:53:00pm

Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

It's one thing to do as Charles says: dont say anything bad about them. It's quite another to make it seem like theyre choirboys.

Disgusting

397 leereyno  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:32:35pm

re: #2 Charles

Please note that I won't tolerate mean-spirited remarks about Kennedy in this thread.

More importantly you'll see few, if any, such remarks get posted.

Unlike the left, conservatives have class.

398 OccamsRazor  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:37:42pm

59 -2 to 41?
Wishing them a speedy recovery...as retired Senators.

399 Adrenalyn  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:38:50pm

re: #318 Irish Rose

You don't have to like him.

But try to remember that he's a husband, father, grandfather and (I think) great-grandfather. His death is going to leave a gaping, painful hole in the lives of a lot of people who have nothing to do with Washington politics.

So show some charity, show some class, and wish him well.


are you talking about Kim Jong IL ?

most of that is true about him, you know

400 Big Digger  Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:56:17pm

re: #132 Kosh's Shadow

As much as I disagree with Kennedy, I basically believe he has the interests of the US at heart. He might be misguided as to the best way the US should be run, but (leaving out a certain incident), I don't think he is evil.

I'll reserve wishing bad things on real terrorists.

Being a resident of the People's Republic of Massachusetts and considering the fecal laws he has helped to pass over the years, I can tell you that he does not have the interests of the US at heart.

However, I agree with reserving the desire for bad things to happen to real terrorists. All I wish is for him to have a long life and a long retirement starting right now.

401 Sloan  Wed, Jan 21, 2009 9:34:17am

Both Senators Byrd and Kennedy have my prayers and best thoughts for a speedy recovery.

Although I wonder aloud if it isn't time for both of them to think about stepping down, I suspect that both men are the type who would rather "die in the saddle," so to speak. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that they have had discussions with their respective governors about possible successors, should the need arise.

If they can keep going, and still do their jobs, more power to them. But if not...well, we've just had a lesson from President Bush on how to bow out with dignity and grace. I hope they will know when to do the same.

402 Miss Antipodes  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 7:29:07pm

A predictable response to dining with BOTH Kerry & Mondale....


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