John Birch Society: 2009 Was a ‘Record Setting Year’

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Or, “Why I parted ways with the right, exhibit J for ‘John Birch Society.’”

2009 JBS.org Year in Review.

There’s good news and there’s bad news as we review our online progress during 2009. But the good news borders on “great,” so why not start there?

The great news is that it’s been a record setting year for The John Birch Society online. Traffic to this website and to our partner site, TheNewAmerican.com, is up substantially. On JBS.org we’ve seen a 60 percent increase in traffic over the last 12 months. At TheNewAmerican.com, traffic is up by a stunning 105 percent! In fact, so much has happened to make these numbers possible that it is hard to believe that it all took place in just twelve months.

The progress stems from what started out as a concerted effort to reach a new market among the younger generation that relies on online sources for news and analysis.

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227 comments
1 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:30:14pm

JBS traffic is up 60%?
OMG.

The progress stems from what started out as a concerted effort to reach a new market among the younger generation that relies on online sources for news and analysis.

Parents - beware!

2 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:31:34pm

Sunsabitches are out there trying to create the next gen freakazoids… aided and abetted by Glen Beck and his prolific use of their lists, sayings, and books.

3 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:32:48pm
The progress stems from what started out as a concerted effort to reach a new market among the younger generation that relies on online sources for news and analysis.

If anyone is being persuaded to follow the jBS from their website, then I’m reminded of SomethingAwful.com’s slogan: the Internet makes you stupid.

4 brookly red  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:33:35pm

re: #3 metrolibertarian

If anyone is being persuaded to follow the jBS from their website, then I’m reminded of SomethingAwful.com’s slogan: the Internet makes you stupid.

It’s the new TV…

5 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:34:14pm

Thank you Glenn Beck. Thank you Tea Baggers. Thank you CPAC. Thank you GOP. Thank you very fucking much!

*SPIT!*

6 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:34:19pm

A beast never fights harder than when its cornered. Hear this was a “good” year for the KKK at some places as well, lets just hope these increased numbers are nothing more than the “death throes” of such vile organizations.

But given that John Birch is getting invited to help host CPAC they might be planning to take the entire Republican party as we know it out with them when they go….

7 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:34:50pm

re: #5 Slumbering Behemoth

Thank you Glenn Beck. Thank you Tea Baggers. Thank you CPAC. Thank you GOP. Thank you very fucking much!

*SPIT!*

…and fuck you very much Ron Paul!

8 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:35:25pm

The smaller the real number of hits, the easier it is to multiply it after startup.

9 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:36:36pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

The smaller the real number of hits, the easier it is to multiply it after startup.

good point…doesn’t make them suck any less….still, a good point though.

10 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:36:36pm

re: #7 Varek Raith

…and fuck you very much Ron Paul!

Ahem, pardon my Klingon.

11 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:36:57pm
But then there is the bad news. Simply put, it is unclear how long we can continue to operate at this level. Running our sites is expensive. Sending journalists abroad to key events is expensive. Expanding our capabilities, as we hope to do, is expensive. But it is absolutely essential as no one else reporting from a constitutional viewpoint is doing this. In other words, if we can’t keep doing it, no one else will.

What the hell is it with Paleoconservatives on the Internet and this flagrant panhandling? Robert Stacy McCain panhandles to be sent to Pasadena, California. The Jon Birch Society is busy begging and pleading so their General Jack Ripper theories can pollute even more minds. And World Net Daily basically wants everyone else to foot their legal bill and publicize their batshit promotions. I thought these people were about individual responsibility.

12 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:37:14pm

Hopefully this is only a temporary thing…

13 brookly red  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:37:50pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

The smaller the real number of hits, the easier it is to multiply it after startup.

yes, I am always skeptical about percentage claims with no base line numbers attached…

14 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:39:03pm

I must confess to giving them a few hits. How else can one find gems such as this:

Other than possibly having to replace the word Russian with the word Muslim, Robert Welch’s astute observations on the nature of government, as he presented them at the founding meeting of The John Birch Society in December of 1958, still ring true today — perhaps even more so…

But I’ll try to be more diligent about using cached pages instead of giving them the benefit of a hit.

15 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:39:13pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

A bit of a silver lining, I suppose. Did cheer me up a teeny little bit, though.

16 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:39:25pm

re: #12 Boondock St. Bender

Hopefully this is only a temporary thing…

My cynical magic 8 ball says, “Signs Point to NO.”

17 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:40:17pm

re: #11 metrolibertarian

What the hell is it with Paleoconservatives on the Internet and this flagrant panhandling? Robert Stacy McCain panhandles to be sent to Pasadena, California. The Jon Birch Society is busy begging and pleading so their General Jack Ripper theories can pollute even more minds. And World Net Daily basically wants everyone else to foot their legal bill and publicize their batshit promotions. I thought these people were about individual responsibility.

Yes, strange how many right wing nut jobs who should in theory be “conservative” are asking other people for donations, as if they want some kind of “handout”….


As if you needed another reason (Hypocrisy) to find them disgusting…

18 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:40:58pm

re: #11 metrolibertarian

What the hell is it with Paleoconservatives on the Internet and this flagrant panhandling? Robert Stacy McCain panhandles to be sent to Pasadena, California. The Jon Birch Society is busy begging and pleading so their General Jack Ripper theories can pollute even more minds. And World Net Daily basically wants everyone else to foot their legal bill and publicize their batshit promotions. I thought these people were about individual responsibility.

Let’s not get above ourselves. Not every blog gets Zionist checks and Soros Stamps. They’re trying to make the intertubes the marketing cash cow they’ve read about.

19 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:42:06pm

re: #11 metrolibertarian

I thought these people were about individual responsibility.

Only when they want to hold some other individual responsible for some perceived slight against their One Good TruthTM.

20 brookly red  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:42:25pm

re: #17 jamesfirecat

Yes, strange how many right wing nut jobs who should in theory be “conservative” are asking other people for donations, as if they want some kind of “handout”…

As if you needed another reason (Hypocrisy) to find them disgusting…

I am going to remember that next time I get all call for political donations…

21 Varek Raith  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:44:12pm

I’m just stupefied at the resurgence of the JBS…
Sheesh, I shouldn’t be but, I am…

22 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:44:27pm
The progress stems from what started out as a concerted effort to reach a new market among the younger generation that relies on online sources for news and analysis

Scary, that last. Remember libraries?

23 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:47:32pm

re: #20 brookly red

I am going to remember that next time I get all call for political donations…

Tell them to go have a “bake sale”, or get a real friggin’ job like the rest of us!

And why is it everyone around me gets calls from the RNC, but I don’t? I’m registered (R), I vote, what gives? I’ve been itching to give them a piece of my mind. Guess I’ll just have to resort to a strongly worded letter.

24 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:47:42pm

re: #18 Decatur Deb

You are right. I forgot how the Illuminati Zionist Jew Neoconservatives are cutting checks for Charles so he can, through the Internet, bring about the New World Order led by Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commision, Council on Foreign Relations, and the San Francisco 49ers. And I guess I should be more sympathetic to at least Robert Stacy McCain’s situation, not everyone is un-employable because they never learned an outhouse doesn’t also double as a bedroom.

25 brookly red  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:47:58pm

re: #22 Escaped Hillbilly

Scary, that last. Remember libraries?

but Starbucks has wifi…

26 Jetpilot1101  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:48:06pm

From the link:

But then there is the bad news. Simply put, it is unclear how long we can continue to operate at this level. Running our sites is expensive. Sending journalists abroad to key events is expensive. Expanding our capabilities, as we hope to do, is expensive. But it is absolutely essential as no one else reporting from a constitutional viewpoint is doing this. In other words, if we can’t keep doing it, no one else will.

The bad news is that they need money and need to raise it in a very bad economic climate. While I don’t relish the idea of unemployment continuing to rise and the economy continuing to struggle along, the silver lining may be that the JBS doesn’t get the donations needed to continue and sustain their growth.

27 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:48:29pm

re: #22 Escaped Hillbilly

Scary, that last. Remember libraries?

Firetraps, but good places to meet quiet girls.

28 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:49:48pm

re: #22 Escaped Hillbilly

Scary, that last. Remember libraries?

Libraries: Just another example of out of control gov’t spending on welfare programs.
/

29 brookly red  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:49:59pm

re: #26 Jetpilot1101

From the link:

The bad news is that they need money and need to raise it in a very bad economic climate. While I don’t relish the idea of unemployment continuing to rise and the economy continuing to struggle along, the silver lining may be that the JBS doesn’t get the donations needed to continue and sustain their growth.

just the opposite, it is the dire straights that drive people to places like that. imo.

30 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:50:48pm

re: #24 metrolibertarian

pssst….you forgot the masons….

31 Jetpilot1101  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:52:14pm

re: #29 brookly red

just the opposite, it is the dire straights that drive people to places like that. imo.

While you do have a point and I agree with you, if they don’t have a job or money, it makes it mighty hard for them to contribute money which we all know is the lifeblood of anything political. At least the JBS may not grow.

32 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:52:32pm

re: #29 brookly red
c’mon their music isn’t that bad….money for nuthin’was catchy

33 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:52:46pm

re: #30 Boondock St. Bender

It’s cool, we’ve got the week off. BTW, that’s Freemasons, thank you very much.
/

34 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:54:00pm

re: #28 Slumbering Behemoth

I have read recently they have experience an upswing in patronage…because they have free videos.

35 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:57:09pm

re: #26 Jetpilot1101

Well I for one can only think of very few peopre: #33 Slumbering Behemoth

It’s cool, we’ve got the week off. BTW, that’s Freemasons, thank you very much.
/

Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the Metric System down?
We Do! We do!

36 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:59:23pm

But in seriousness, it really concerns me that they are targeting kids who get most of their news from the internet. How easy is it to shape the news they get? I know from running up against it, the ignorance they get from the web has strong mojo. The kids I work with will argue to death based on something they read online and refuse to allow that having actually lived through some of these events, I might know of which I speak. One example: When Pres Carter gave the Panama canal back to the Panamanians, it was past its usefulness…and it was theirs so we should have given it back. Whether or not you agree with Pres Carter’s actions in this case, no one at the time made such ludicrous claims. But it has become “common wisdom” now. Just try arguing with them. Just try.

37 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 3:59:32pm

Sorry for the early OT, but this is too funny not to share. This woman has a husband who is a prolific sleep talker. Making lemonade out of lemons, she creates a website chronicling his slumberous musings…

Sleep Talkin’ Man.

38 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:01:43pm

You know I thought my previous post listing the underwriters of this blog was extreme in its level on conspiratorial nutcase-ness. Nope, this is from an article on the jbs website:

Labeling in turn as “unsubstantiated and speculative” the conspiratorial activities of the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commission, and Council of Foreign Relations, Mr. Salcido includes a few insulting accusations aimed at those who see deliberate evil in the work of such persons and groups. He even aimed one of his darts at anyone who believes the Illuminati has ever been part of a conspiracy against civilization.

I wonder, do these people read The Da Vinci Code and other Dan Brown books, and come away thinking “wow, this man’s a prophet” instead of the more natural reaction of “wow, this man’s such a shitty writer, what the hell is wrong with fiction writing?”

39 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:03:25pm

re: #38 metrolibertarian

You think they read?

40 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:03:42pm

re: #30 Boondock St. Bender

The freemasons are a target of my ire because it’s obvious they’re responsible for this news:

[Link: www.theonion.com…]

41 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:03:51pm

re: #38 metrolibertarian

You know I thought my previous post listing the underwriters of this blog was extreme in its level on conspiratorial nutcase-ness. Nope, this is from an article on the jbs website:

I wonder, do these people read The Da Vinci Code and other Dan Brown books, and come away thinking “wow, this man’s a prophet” instead of the more natural reaction of “wow, this man’s such a shitty writer, what the hell is wrong with fiction writing?”

You can’t out-weird the pros.

42 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:04:59pm

re: #38 metrolibertarian

The GOP, in flirting with the JBS, will find no friends in them. Much like the prolific conspiracy monger Alex Jones, they will shift the focus of their wild theories on the republicans if they ever regain a majority in the gov’t.

43 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:06:07pm

re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth

Sorry for the early OT, but this is too funny not to share. This woman has a husband who is a prolific sleep talker. Making lemonade out of lemons, she creates a website chronicling his slumberous musings…

Sleep Talkin’ Man.

“I haven’t put on weight. Your eyes are fat.”
/lol

44 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:08:37pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

I dig this one:

“Do you like what you see? No? Well, bloody look harder. Strain your eyes!”

45 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:10:03pm

re: #40 metrolibertarian

MY EYES!!!!
pad thai now festoons my monitor

46 austin_blue  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:10:17pm

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

The GOP, in flirting with the JBS, will find no friends in them. Much like the prolific conspiracy monger Alex Jones, they will shift the focus of their wild theories on the republicans if they ever regain a majority in the gov’t.

If you plant ice, you’re going to harvest wind.

47 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:11:14pm

re: #44 Slumbering Behemoth

Lots of stuff about food and animals. Pretty interesting reading.

48 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:12:48pm

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

The GOP, in flirting with the JBS, will find no friends in them. Much like the prolific conspiracy monger Alex Jones, they will shift the focus of their wild theories on the republicans if they ever regain a majority in the gov’t.

That’s what confuses me about this, I guess relationship. That the larger conservative movement would even reach out to them astounds me. As if the Birchers are some movement creating a conservative philosophy for the 21st Century, when in reality the John Birch Society isn’t about furthering some conservative principles beyond the empty platitudes of “freedom” and “liberty” without any actual definition of what those terms mean to them, they’re just about furthering their conspiratorial writings about this monolithic entity known as the “government” they put on their padded walls with their own shit. I’m not even sure they wish to have any “power,” they just exist simply to use their shit ink to promote their derangements.

49 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:13:09pm

re: #40 metrolibertarian

Oh…should be only one or two more filler episodes before it’s back to huecto mundo……

50 The Curmudgeon  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:14:42pm

If the biggest thing they have to brag about is a doubling of website traffic, then they have almost nothing to brag about. Even my own blog has done that well, but so what? I think the Time Cube is one of the most popular sites, and everyone knows that place bonkers.

51 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:15:20pm

re: #46 austin_blue

If you plant ice, you’re going to harvest wind.

That’s a phrase I’ve never heard before. From where/whom does it originate?

52 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:15:43pm

Remember the old days when people would actually show up and defend BS like this or say it wasn’t real or didn’t matter? We would scurry around for links, evidence and proof so they couldn’t deny it…

Now it’s just so out in the open and accepted that Charles doesn’t even get challenged on it anymore. Now that’s a sad statement about the current leaders of the R’s.

53 political lunatic  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:16:07pm

For once, the JBS might be on to something reality-based here: ‘09 was a record-setting year for craziness and idiocy. Hence, their added web traffic and CPAC invite.

54 austin_blue  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:16:11pm

re: #51 Slumbering Behemoth

That’s a phrase I’ve never heard before. From where/whom does it originate?

Franklin’s Tower by the Grateful Dead. Robert Hunter did the lyrics.

55 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:16:43pm

re: #51 Slumbering Behemoth

I’ve never heard it before but I think its a modified version of “you call the thunder, you reap the whirlwind” (or is it “call down the thunder”?) in this case it makes sense as a common sense kind of thing. If you plant ice cubes rather than seeds, all you’ll have to harvest is the wind…

56 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:17:08pm

re: #50 The Curmudgeon

WTF???? english is obviously not this guys forte’

57 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:17:38pm

re: #49 Boondock St. Bender

FINALLY! Holy crap, at least the first “break” (the Bounto diversion) at least made sense and works with the story line as it goes on. Whoever thought “hey, let’s make up some stupidly complex story involving swords, leave millions of loose ends, and make it have no impact on the story” should commit hara kiri.

58 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:17:49pm

re: #52 Thanos

Remember the old days when people would actually show up and defend BS like this or say it wasn’t real or didn’t matter? We would scurry around for links, evidence and proof so they couldn’t deny it…

Now it’s just so out in the open and accepted that Charles doesn’t even get challenged on it anymore. Now that’s a sad statement about the current leaders of the R’s.

PLENTY of that type work left to be done on the other side of the fence. Case in point:
[Link: www.sj-r.com…]

59 Ojoe  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:18:06pm

When I was a kid a joke was to install some hardwood paneling in your bathroom so you could have a birch john.

Then you could join the Birch John Society.

60 austin_blue  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:19:26pm

re: #52 Thanos

Remember the old days when people would actually show up and defend BS like this or say it wasn’t real or didn’t matter? We would scurry around for links, evidence and proof so they couldn’t deny it…

Now it’s just so out in the open and accepted that Charles doesn’t even get challenged on it anymore. Now that’s a sad statement about the current leaders of the R’s.

Well, there used to be a lot of “characters” on the site….but they committed blogocide (webpuku?) in various forms and pffft.

61 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:19:58pm

Reddit and Digg have been spammed with a lot of JBS stuff over the past year. I’m sure that’s some of it.

62 Unakite  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:20:37pm

re: #36 Escaped Hillbilly

But in seriousness, it really concerns me that they are targeting kids who get most of their news from the internet. How easy is it to shape the news they get? I know from running up against it, the ignorance they get from the web has strong mojo. The kids I work with will argue to death based on something they read online and refuse to allow that having actually lived through some of these events, I might know of which I speak. One example: When Pres Carter gave the Panama canal back to the Panamanians, it was past its usefulness…and it was theirs so we should have given it back. Whether or not you agree with Pres Carter’s actions in this case, no one at the time made such ludicrous claims. But it has become “common wisdom” now. Just try arguing with them. Just try.

Just commenting that I like that phrase. I wonder how many of us that now have some life experience had some version of common wisdom when we were younger.

63 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:20:41pm

re: #47 Killgore Trout

I’m just happy that I don’t talk in my sleep. My nightmares are pretty fucked up.

64 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:22:58pm

re: #58 Taqyia2Me

Sorry you are losing me, controversy over a prison release program smells like you are trying to change the subject away from the JBS and conservative swallowing of their swill. So please explain why you are tu quoqing so early?

65 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:23:00pm

re: #57 metrolibertarian

Apparently The anime’ moves much faster than the manga can be produced..hence the filler arcs…but yeah…This arc is getting old.

66 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:24:03pm

re: #5 Slumbering Behemoth

Thank you Glenn Beck. Thank you Tea Baggers. Thank you CPAC. Thank you GOP. Thank you very fucking much!

*SPIT!*

If there be any among us who would wish to dissolve this Union, or to change it’s republican form, let them stand undisturbed as monuments of the safety with which error of opinion may be tolerated, where reason is left free to combat it. I know indeed that some honest men fear that a republican government cannot be strong; that this government is not strong enough. But would the honest patriot, in the full tide of successful experiment, abandon a government which has so far kept us free and firm, on the theoretic & visionary fear, that this government, the world’s best hope, may, by possibility, want energy to preserve itself? I trust not. I believe this, on the contrary the strongest government on earth. I believe it the only one where every man, at the call of the law, would fly to the standard of the law, and would meet invasions of the public order, as his own personal concern.
— Thomas Jefferson, inaugural address

67 Ojoe  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:26:02pm

re: #66 The Sanity Inspector

You bet. We all have a stake in this place.

68 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:27:15pm

This really started with anti jihadists getting in bed with Eurofascists and paleocons. Then we were told by Ann Coulter that the neo confederate racists in CoCC were just fine, then PJM starting hosting posts from racist RSM, then JBS…

Let’s hope this is the very last hurrah of the holy hate horde and their racist underbelly friends. (most of the people buying this shit are 60+ and will be dead within two decades, hence the scurrying for a youth movement.)

69 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:27:22pm

A song is just a song?

70 Gus  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:28:05pm

Looks like Thomas Sowell is going to be having his articles there. This is signaling the end of an era as Buckley spins in his grave.

Looking over at the JBS Community page the current crop of video includes those with Alex Jones, Nick Griffin, Glenn Beck, Ron Paul, et al. They still attract the conspiracy crackpots.

Some of there latest bit of paranoia I mean talking points from John F. McManus, President of JBS:

Will President Barack Obama’s speech boost public
support for the war in Afghanistan?

The speech by President Obama will likely change few minds. Those opposed to the continuation of this undeclared and therefore unconstitutional “war” will remain opposed. Those in favor will, for a time, stay in favor. But sentiment favoring participation in this conflict will continue to wane. The significance of the president starting his speech with authorization for our nation’s involvement emanating from NATO and the United Nations is highly noteworthy and should not be overlooked. He certainly didn’t cite the U.S. Constitution to justify this “war”! NATO arose in 1949 as a UN regional arrangement. The speech added one more reason why the U.S. should withdraw from the UN and all its subsidiaries, and why the American people should demand that all U.S. officials get back to adhering to the limitations in the U.S. Constitution.

Will the effort to fund a troop surge in Afghanistan divide the Democratic Party?

Anything that will divide the Democratic Party would be helpful to America. This party has, in general, become the socialist party of America and many of its members have been linked with the organization known as the Democratic Socialists of America. Socialism is, of course, the antithesis of Americanism. It was practiced in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) and in the National Socialist (Nazi) Party in Germany. It would be wonderful for America if many of the Democrats in Congress would begin to honor their oath to the U.S. Constitution and work for less government, not more.

This is from there January 2010 bulletin which also feature a blurb about abolishing the Fed. Also includes the typical anti-CFR paranoia.

71 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:28:06pm

re: #64 Thanos

Nope, it is indefensible, as is the early release program and the two democrats responsible for it.
As a conservative, I have NOT “swallowing their swill.”
We are in a target rich environment.
[Link: www.bostonherald.com…]

72 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:28:28pm

re: #68 Thanos

(snip)
Let’s hope this is the very last hurrah of the holy hate horde and their racist underbelly friends. (most of the people buying this shit are 60+ and will be dead within two decades, hence the scurrying for a youth movement.)

I thought that in the ’60s. I was wrong.

73 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:29:07pm
Army specialist jailed for threats against fellow soldiers, commanders
By Jeff Schogol, Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Thursday, January 7, 2010

Army Spc. Marc Hall ARLINGTON, Va. — An Army specialist is in jail, accused of making threats against fellow soldiers, including in a vulgar, violent rap song that describes shooting those responsible for his stop-loss orders.

Army Times article. For some reason I can’t seem to link.

74 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:29:08pm

re: #70 Gus 802

Yeah, I noticed that Sowell was posting there now.

75 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:30:20pm

re: #63 Slumbering Behemoth

I’m just happy that I don’t talk in my sleep. My nightmares are pretty fucked up.

I had a Bear chasing me all night in my nightmare..Running..Running..
Finally I came across a Policeman that stopped me and told me if I stopped running the Bear would stop chasing me..
You couldn’t tell me that hours ago?
Stupid Nightmares

76 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:30:37pm

re: #65 Boondock St. Bender

That I can understand, as a Dragonball fan, I noticed that the videos ended like only a year after the final manga chapter, which seemed odd since the show started a year and a half later and both DB and DBZ were filled with silly things like the nonsensical Pilaf eps between Frieza being killed by Goku and the arrival of Trunks.

However I just wish the filler “saga” was much less lame than it is. I, dunno, maybe something related to Ichigo’s father as a Shinigami or something might have been better (why the hell the Manga hasn’t expounded on this more confuses the shit out of me).

I am such a huge fucking nerd.

77 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:30:50pm

Charles,
If a new unconfirmed registrants email has not been received after a couple days, what might be wrong? Just a question from my Ladydragon… who of course would (if approved) be the same IP as I am.

78 Jaerik  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:31:46pm

The GOP might get a few more votes by embracing these people, but they’ll lose even more. They’re going straight off the cliff together.

It’s a shame that it might have to involve the death of a once-great political party to demonstrate, yet again, that this kind of detestable behavior has no place in politics or society.

79 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:32:27pm

re: #71 Taqyia2Me

What’s your opinion of the JBS appearing at CPAC? What’s your opinion of Palin canceling due to JBS and appearing instead at the SLRC?

80 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:32:33pm

re: #17 jamesfirecat

Yes, strange how many right wing nut jobs who should in theory be “conservative” are asking other people for donations, as if they want some kind of “handout”…

As if you needed another reason (Hypocrisy) to find them disgusting…

Beats having them hit up the government for funding. *cough*ACORN*cough*

81 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:33:16pm

re: #79 Thanos

Was CPAC going to pay Sarah Palin to appear?

82 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:34:11pm

re: #81 metrolibertarian

I’m not sure those details were ever released… but I would bet she doesn’t go anywhere there’s not a check or a few involved.

83 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:34:21pm

re: #77 Rightwingconspirator

Charles,
If a new unconfirmed registrants email has not been received after a couple days, what might be wrong? Just a question from my Ladydragon… who of course would (if approved) be the same IP as I am.

I think the confirmations should arrive within a few minutes.

84 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:34:32pm

re: #80 The Sanity Inspector

Well we’re democrats so we believe in big government, thus why should we be ashamed when we ask for a handout? Handouts are what we’ve built a lot of our current policy around! At least we’re consistent in our mooching!

85 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:35:02pm

re: #56 Boondock St. Bender

WTF??? english is obviously not this guys forte’

He’s listening to a Thelonious Monk song played on a symphony of theremins that only he can hear.

86 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:35:49pm

This is impressive…..
Pink - Bohemian Rhapsody - Live in Australia

Youtube Video


There aren’t many people in the business who could really perform this live. I don’t hear any autotune and no evidence of lipsynching.

87 Gus  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:35:55pm

More Alex Jones John F. McManus, president of JBS:

The prime architect of the Federal Reserve was German immigrant Paul Warburg. Arriving in America in 1902 with his brother Max, he married into the family controlling Kuhn, Loeb and Company, America’s most powerful international banking firm. By 1907, he was earning $500,000 annually, a princely sum even today but an enormously generous salary at a time when there was no income tax and inflation had not begun its attack on the value of the dollar.
…
Central banks of other nations would act “in concert.” And they would act in secrecy of the kind that dominates meetings of the Bilderberg conferences, the Trilateral Commission gatherings, and the annual sessions held by the world’s powerful economic leaders in Switzerland. While no participant in these closed-door powwows is poor, the goal of the movements they have joined has always been power more than personal wealth.
…
Congressman Ron Paul has earned the thanks of all true Americans with his efforts to combat the Fed — not only to have it audited but also eventually to have it abolished. His “Audit the Fed” proposal in the current Congress has been inserted into a measure calling for broad new financial regulation powers. Because he strongly disapproves of this addition to the federal government’s meddling where it doesn’t belong, he has indicated he won’t vote for the new measure. “I will not vote for something that’s a disaster because one or two or five percent of it is an improvement,” he stated. It may yet pass and there may be some movement toward an audit.
…
…All freedom-loving Americans should continue to alert fellow citizens about the power and overall purpose of the Fed so that it will soon be properly audited and eventually abolished….

88 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:36:17pm

re: #79 Thanos

What’s your opinion of the JBS appearing at CPAC? What’s your opinion of Palin canceling due to JBS and appearing instead at the SLRC?

CPAC won’t get my support.
Someone besides Sarah Palin is going to have to pledge to go to Wasington as a corruption buster, mean it, get there, and do it.
Can you please advise what SLRC is?

89 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:36:20pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Hmmm. Since she uses the same wireless network here and the same computer could it be an unintended sock puppet issue?

90 austin_blue  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:36:47pm

Looks like the door is open….

91 Cathypop  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:37:24pm

Okay, so I log on and to the left is “Addiction Treatment” and “Addiction Treatment Centers” These people need to seriously go to these sites. Get a life! PLEASE?

92 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:37:24pm

re: #69 Escaped Hillbilly

Malformed html, try again.

93 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:37:46pm

re: #87 Gus 802

More Alex Jones John F. McManus, president of JBS:

You know who else had the name Max? Max Eastman, socialist and Trotsky admirer. I think we can finally prove our link between the Federal Reserve and the Judeobolsheviks!

94 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:37:50pm

re: #76 metrolibertarian

Yeah… what the hell was that, ichigo’s dad is a captain?? Then they don’t mention anything about it for 100 episodes….I’m a big geek too…lol
(although i have an excuse,i watch it with my 12 year old…yeah thats it)

95 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:37:51pm

re: #90 austin_blue

Interesting. Not announced anymore I noticed.

96 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:38:24pm

re: #77 Rightwingconspirator

Charles,
If a new unconfirmed registrants email has not been received after a couple days, what might be wrong? Just a question from my Ladydragon… who of course would (if approved) be the same IP as I am.

There’s a link at the upper left of the page, when you are not logged in, that says ‘Re-send Confirmation’. Make sure you have any spam filters turned off - that’s the most common cause of problems.

97 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:39:21pm

re: #96 Charles

Thanks Mucho!
I’ll log off and try it.

98 Gus  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:39:42pm

re: #93 metrolibertarian

You know who else had the name Max? Max Eastman, socialist and Trotsky admirer. I think we can finally prove our link between the Federal Reserve and the Judeobolsheviks!

Funny you should mention that because I just came across “Karl Marx would have loved the Federal Reserve” in my reading of JBS literature.

100 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:41:47pm

re: #79 Thanos

What’s your opinion of the JBS appearing at CPAC? What’s your opinion of Palin canceling due to JBS and appearing instead at the SLRC?

If it’s Southern Legal Resource Center and its logo includes the confederate flag, I am against it as I am against JBS and now CPAC.

101 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:42:16pm

re: #94 Boondock St. Bender

Maybe my only complaint about the manga is the fact that this super huge plot point has been ignored. Then again, I was wondering if we’d ever actually see Hirako’s bankai, and despite it being super fucking stupid, at least they didn’t forget that he did achieve it.

102 Gus  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:43:09pm

re: #100 Taqyia2Me

If it’s Southern Legal Resource Center and its logo includes the confederate flag, I am against it as I am against JBS and now CPAC.

It’s the SRLC… Southern Republican Leadership Conference

103 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:44:19pm

re: #100 Taqyia2Me

If it’s Southern Legal Resource Center and its logo includes the confederate flag, I am against it as I am against JBS and now CPAC.

I think he meant the Southern Republican Leadership Conference. Has several potential nominees as headliners.

104 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:46:01pm

Just a song…

105 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:46:46pm

Sorry I am posting this way out of syn with conversation. I just had a block of instruction from my 18 year old.

106 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:47:20pm

re: #80 The Sanity Inspector

Beats having them hit up the government for funding. *cough*ACORN*cough*

*cough* What about those Christian abstinence non profit groups who also incidentally spread gay hate across Africa on the gov’t dime? (cough)

107 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:47:27pm

re: #27 Decatur Deb

Hmm, hadn’t thought of that. Usually, I figure someone at the library wants to be left alone. Plus, I have no idea how to approach women I don’t know and strike up conversation without coming across as Ted Bundy. Or Al Bundy, but mostly Ted Bundy.

This is EXACTLY my thought process about such things:

[Link: xkcd.com…]

108 Kronocide  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:48:43pm

re: #106 Thanos

ah… (gulp)…. uh….

109 Gus  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:49:14pm

The latest titles in the JBS forums:

Ron Paul at the 50th Anniversary of the John Birch Society!

Sarah Palin to skip CPAC; Troubled by John Birch Society’s Sponsorship!

The REAL Newt Gingrich!

U.N. H1N1 scientists linked to companies making vaccine, secret bribes!

Evidence suggests FBI Cover-Up of Flight 253 Terrorist Attack!

The Marxian Virus in American Thought!

Conspiracy Theory With Jesse Ventura - Ep. 5, Secret Societies / Bilderberg Group!

110 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:49:19pm

re: #88 Taqyia2Me

Southern Leadership Republican Council or something like that

111 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:49:32pm

re: #107 negativ

Love XKCD. Got the “Scale of the Universe” poster for Christmas.

112 Kronocide  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:50:32pm

I’m pretty sure that beating the dead ACORN horse will cause it to turn into another GOP eating zombie joining the apocalypse. ACORN got all the miles that can be gotten, let it go.

113 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:50:37pm

re: #101 metrolibertarian

I would have expected that him of anyone would have been ready to face off with aisen sosuke.kinda anti-climax…although the fight ain’t over yet.

114 brookly red  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:51:50pm

re: #107 negativ

Hmm, hadn’t thought of that. Usually, I figure someone at the library wants to be left alone. Plus, I have no idea how to approach women I don’t know and strike up conversation without coming across as Ted Bundy. Or Al Bundy, but mostly Ted Bundy.

This is EXACTLY my thought process about such things:

[Link: xkcd.com…]

try pointing to the floor and asking, “is that a mouse?” conversation will follow… one way or the other.

115 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:52:18pm

re: #110 Thanos

Southern Leadership Republican Council or something like that

At least there’s not a confederate flag included in their logo is about all I can say about the conference website.

116 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:54:39pm

re: #113 Boondock St. Bender

Actually, the one person I’m intrigued about, because I don’t think we’ve ever seen her fight, but the Captain of the Fourth Squad, who everybody seems to wary of pissing off.

117 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:54:51pm

Look, I don’t mind beating Acorn. They are obviously part of the Dem’s political operations. However to assume that no similar groups exist within the Republican sphere and political machines is really nonsense.

/Delay? Tea party Express? Same people who gave us Bush? All from Texas? Beginning to catch on yet?

118 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:54:58pm

re: #106 Thanos

Is this the same group (Uganda) we were recently discussing? I thought it was another one. The article seems to be about a group doing abstinence work here in US. Not that any of it should be on the gov’s (our) dime.

119 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:57:11pm

re: #118 Escaped Hillbilly

Is this the same group (Uganda) we were recently discussing? I thought it was another one. The article seems to be about a group doing abstinence work here in US. Not that any of it should be on the gov’s (our) dime.

No this is another group inside the US, there are groups doing things in Africa, and they are associated with groups like AFA / AFR / CAN etc. That was just the first thing I pulled up with a quick google, I’m sure there are myriads more.

120 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:57:18pm

re: #107 negativ

Hmm, hadn’t thought of that. Usually, I figure someone at the library wants to be left alone. Plus, I have no idea how to approach women I don’t know and strike up conversation without coming across as Ted Bundy. Or Al Bundy, but mostly Ted Bundy.blockquote>

*sigh* Explains a lot from my teen years.

121 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:57:35pm

Sorry to Thanos and lizardom for going OT early.
Will work to avoid same in future.

122 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:59:31pm

re: #121 Taqyia2Me

No need to apologize, I’m just saying whenever someone talks Birchers everyone wants to change the subject, like it’s not important, or not news anymore.

123 Kronocide  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 4:59:47pm

re: #117 Thanos

Look, I don’t mind beating Acorn. They are obviously part of the Dem’s political operations. However to assume that no similar groups exist within the Republican sphere and political machines is really nonsense.

ACORN deserved some licks for sure, but there’s really nothing new with them right now. The issues risks being overplayed, especially to keep bringing them up when there’s nothing new going on.

And you are absolutely correct to point out the right’s ‘ACORNS:’ your example is arguably worse than what ACORN did.

124 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:00:56pm

re: #116 metrolibertarian

yeah she’s cowed just about everyone with just a look.(she is incredibly polite though…lol)

125 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:01:50pm

OT: Notes from a non-profit thrift store furniture department employee.

Today was the first time I got to really become one with our industrial sized compactor machine. Did you know that you can put a whole 8 foot long, very ugly Mediterranean dresser in that machine, and it will snap it in half like it was Poland? It does wonderful things with used worn out Sony Trinitron TV’s (is that gas spewing out from the picture tube toxic?). And the piece de resistance was the side by side refrigerator and freezer, folded up like a Michelin map. One word of advice, stand back, it’s amazing how high heavy metal parts can be propelled into the air.

There is something personally satisfying about having that much power at your fingertips, with the simple push of a button. I want one for my backyard, or maybe the living room. Can you imagine the fun you could have at your barbecues with the compactor and beer cans?

Note: always check the inside of the refrigerator for small dead animals or discarded midget prostitutes.

Next week I learn all about store security.

126 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:02:12pm

Nice,the Jets move on to the next round!

127 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:02:53pm

re: #123 BigPapa

ACORN deserved some licks for sure, but there’s really nothing new with them right now. The issues risks being overplayed, especially to keep bringing them up when there’s nothing new going on.

And you are absolutely correct to point out the right’s ‘ACORNS:’ your example is arguably worse than what ACORN did.

Yep, and I’m expecting some big pay back during election season - these things are easily found and I suspect we will get several salvos of it from the left right before voting day… it’s going to be ugly.

128 tradewind  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:03:07pm

Shows you how effective their PR is (not)…. until LGF, I didn’t realize that the John Birch Society still existed. It always seemed vaguely mythical, like ’ those people in area 51’.

129 austin_blue  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:03:52pm

re: #125 Walter L. Newton

OT: Notes from a non-profit thrift store furniture department employee.

Today was the first time I got to really become one with our industrial sized compactor machine. Did you know that you can put a whole 8 foot long, very ugly Mediterranean dresser in that machine, and it will snap it in half like it was Poland? It does wonderful things with used worn out Sony Trinitron TV’s (is that gas spewing out from the picture tube toxic?). And the piece de resistance was the side by side refrigerator and freezer, folded up like a Michelin map. One word of advice, stand back, it’s amazing how high heavy metal parts can be propelled into the air.

There is something personally satisfying about having that much power at your fingertips, with the simple push of a button. I want one for my backyard, or maybe the living room. Can you imagine the fun you could have at your barbecues with the compactor and beer cans?

Note: always check the inside of the refrigerator for small dead animals or discarded midget prostitutes.

Next week I learn all about store security.

Watch out for TV tubes. There’s about 5 lbs. of lead in a large one.

130 tradewind  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:04:00pm

re: #125 Walter L. Newton
Seriously, Walter… you need to get your hands on a good HazMat suit, stat.///

131 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:04:59pm

Interesting article on the evolution of Koalas and their ability to handle what’s actually a pretty toxic plant as their main dietary source:
[Link: www.sciencedaily.com…]

132 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:05:07pm

re: #130 tradewind

Seriously, Walter… you need to get your hands on a good HazMat suit, stat.///

And make sure no cans of solvents go in there. Don’t ask….

133 Kragar  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:05:28pm

Chavez Devalues Venezuela’s Currency

President Hugo Chavez, harried by recession and declining popularity, announced a major currency devaluation late Friday to shore up government finances and stimulate economic growth before key elections this year.

The move cuts Mr. Chavez’s two-year-old “strong bolivar” currency by half – to 4.3 per dollar from 2.15 per dollar – for most imports and transactions. The central bank will also subsidize a stronger 2.6-per-dollar rate for imports of food, medicine and other essential items, Mr. Chavez said.

The move reflects the increasingly difficult economic and political trade-offs faced by Mr. Chavez, who has been in power for more than a decade and veered the country’s economy sharply to the left through steps like nationalization of key industries, rampant government spending, and currency and price controls.

While those unorthodox policies can work for a few years, they usually set the stage for deeper problems down the road – troubles which have started to surface and which led to the currency devaluation. The move is also a humiliating turn for a currency renamed the “strong bolivar” two years ago, when Mr. Chavez chopped three zeros off the old currency and declared the beginning of an era of monetary fortitude.

134 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:06:20pm

re: #130 tradewind

Seriously, Walter… you need to get your hands on a good HazMat suit, stat.///

re: #132 Decatur Deb

And make sure no cans of solvents go in there. Don’t ask…

Seriously, this place throws almost anything in the compactor, and yes, I do stand back, far back after I start it.

135 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:07:21pm

re: #125 Walter L. Newton

We had something like that for trash at the big chain grocery store I worked at as a teen.

First week, first time using it, some asshole put an entirely full, completely foul gallon of milk in a bag of trash. I learned the hard way to use a long broom handle to hold down the button.

136 tradewind  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:07:25pm

re: #131 metrolibertarian
Obviously hasn’t hurt their libido.

Youtube Video
137 Ojoe  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:08:10pm

Towercam. Dusk. San Gabriel Mountains of California, Pacific time zone.

Nature Break.

138 austin_blue  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:09:02pm

re: #134 Walter L. Newton

Seriously, this place throws almost anything in the compactor, and yes, I do stand back, far back after I start it.

Tell your bosses to remove and recycle the CRTs from TVs and monitors. In any commercial situation, mixed waste with busted CRTs becomes a Federally listed Hazardous Waste per the Code of Federal Regulations. Bad juju.

139 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:09:04pm

re: #135 Slumbering Behemoth

We had something like that for trash at the big chain grocery store I worked at as a teen.

First week, first time using it, some asshole put an entirely full, completely foul gallon of milk in a bag of trash. I learned the hard way to use a long broom handle to hold down the button.

Look… my discarded midget prostitutes beats your rotten gallon of milk any day.

140 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:09:32pm

re: #137 Ojoe

No snow :) If I close my eyes and wish long enough maybe I can teleport there…

141 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:09:44pm

Supper… bbiab…

142 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:10:26pm

re: #139 Walter L. Newton

Look… my discarded midget prostitutes beats your rotten gallon of milk any day.

Only if you end up covered in it, and still have a full shift to work.

143 brookly red  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:12:37pm

re: #139 Walter L. Newton

Look… my discarded midget prostitutes beats your rotten gallon of milk any day.

/btw I got a friend named Vinny who is looking for someone to run a compactor for the err, night shift. Pay cash & has some good perks.

144 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:13:06pm

re: #137 Ojoe

Towercam. Dusk. San Gabriel Mountains of California, Pacific time zone.

Nature Break.

The observatory is pink!

145 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:13:25pm

re: #128 tradewind

Shows you how effective their PR is (not)… until LGF, I didn’t realize that the John Birch Society still existed. It always seemed vaguely mythical, like ’ those people in area 51’.

All I knew about the John Birch Society up til this year was what I had read in MAD Magazine, growing up.

146 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:14:15pm

‘Nite All.

147 Virginia Plain  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:14:40pm

How ‘bout some T. Rex. One of the best opening rifts ever:

Youtube Video
148 austin_blue  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:14:55pm

re: #144 wrenchwench

The observatory is pink!

Socialist ‘scope. Built with gubmint money instead of private enterprise. Of course it’s a pinko…

;-)

149 tradewind  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:15:39pm

re: #137 Ojoe
You’re killin’ me, lovely as that is..
We’re gripped in the icy cold/worst winter in thirty something years. It’s unnatural, and thirty degrees below normal.

150 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:15:57pm

re: #125 Walter L. Newton

You probably don’t need to be told, but when dealing with heavy-duty industrial machinery like you describe, it’s always best to memento mori. And memento squishi and memento crunchi too.

If that thing is launching stuff airborne, something is wrong. We have a big Smooshing Machine where I work, too, and all the actual smooshing occurs inside a steel shell that resembles a 1/2-scale boxcar on a freight train.

151 tradewind  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:16:16pm

re: #145 The Sanity Inspector
Yeah. Kinda like that.

152 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:18:10pm

re: #137 Ojoe

Towercam. Dusk. San Gabriel Mountains of California, Pacific time zone.

Nature Break.

Thanks for linking these when they are particularly lovely!
I clicked the link, saw the current view, took a deep breath and felt calmer right away!

153 abolitionist  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:18:29pm

re: #89 Rightwingconspirator

Hmmm. Since she uses the same wireless network here and the same computer could it be an unintended sock puppet issue?

If you and another family member intend to use the same lan, same computer, and the same logon account, that would surely spell trouble.

I’m guessing, but separate logon accounts might suffice to allow distinguishing two legit LGF accounts, since (for most browsers) cookies would be stored separately. I could be wrong, of course.

154 wrenchwench  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:18:30pm

re: #145 The Sanity Inspector

All I knew about the John Birch Society up til this year was what I had read in MAD Magazine, growing up.

I should have started reading MAD sooner. Might have saved me from being yelled at by a Bircher when I was 9 years old and Trick-or-Treating for UNICEF. I also missed the lawn sign that said “Get the US out of the UN!”

155 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:18:49pm

Three views of the Sugarfoot Rag:

Youtube Video
Youtube Video
Youtube Video
156 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:19:03pm

I predict that anyone who speaks at CPAC this year will be forever tarnished.

157 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:19:22pm

Is it just me…or does it look like ted kennedy is coaching the cowboys?

158 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:19:34pm

re: #139 Walter L. Newton

I doubt whether you’ve inadvertently ‘partaken’ of decomposing midget prostitutes, but I have accidentally poured expired milk on cereal and shoveled a heapin’ helpin’ into my eating hole before the aroma had time to hit my nose.

You’d be amazed at how many pints of vomit a single teaspoon of rotten milk can generate.

159 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:20:42pm

re: #96 Charles
Something else is up. Nothing in the yahoo inbox or spam folder, nothing received after a couple tries. She may well try again with her gmail.

160 Jimmah  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:20:46pm

OT - It’s troofer time again…gaah!

Could it possibly be that Janet and Barack messed up the handling of the attempted terrorist attack on Flight 253 because they were expecting to deal with an actual plane being blown up and innocents killed, and when it did not happen, they were adrift without anything to say? Why won’t those pesky innocents just stay in their seats and let themselves be killed?

The real story behind Delta Flight 253 is starting to come out and it is not going to be pretty.

[Link: logisticsmonster.com…]

161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:20:50pm

re: #157 Boondock St. Bender

Is it just me…or does it look like ted kennedy is coaching the cowboys?

Friend of mine just posted this on facebook…

Alright pumkin head coach don’t mess this up.

heh

162 Four More Tears  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:21:40pm

So I just noticed a story on Kos about how the Tea Party wants to protest the 2010 Detroit Auto Show. Interesting.

163 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:21:57pm

And another thing…considering some of the coaches(rex ryan,andy reid)is there some kind of eating contest to determine who gets the job?

164 Linden Arden  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:22:29pm

re: #145 The Sanity Inspector

All I knew about the John Birch Society up til this year was what I had read in MAD Magazine, growing up.

MAD Magazine was a critical part of my youth. It exposed the absurdity of adult behavior.

The creator of Gumby died yesterday - Art Clokey. Clokey went from ‘David and Goliath’ and Gumby to LSD.

Satirizing your elders is a time-honored tradition.

165 austin_blue  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:23:11pm

re: #160 Jimmah

OT - It’s troofer time again…gaah!

[Link: logisticsmonster.com…]

Oh, gah! If you are going to hire terrorists, hire competent ones.

166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:23:23pm

re: #164 Linden Arden

I’m Gumby, dammit!

167 Four More Tears  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:23:59pm

“A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.”

Just go away, Bill.

168 Kragar  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:24:26pm

re: #164 Linden Arden

Gumby: MST3k style

Youtube Video
169 Political Atheist  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:24:47pm

re: #153 abolitionist

Separate logons, ladydragon for her and RWC for me. Yahoo is just not letting the confirmation through at all. Nothing in spam or the inbox folders. She will probably try with her gmail. When I have email Charles from my yahoo it always bounces. When I use my regular work email it goes right through. Ahh technology.

170 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:24:54pm

re: #155 The Sanity Inspector

Do not pass up an opportunity to see a Junior Brown concert. Just don’t.

171 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:25:00pm

re: #160 Jimmah

Flaming kookspiracy site. Check the “Pilgrim Society” header… it’s those international bankers again….

172 metrolibertarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:25:04pm

re: #163 Boondock St. Bender

That’s why the Skins are terrible, their coaches are emaciated!

173 Four More Tears  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:25:40pm

re: #167 JasonA

“A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.”

Just go away, Bill.

Grr.. linky no work. Here it is from Politico:

[A]s Hillary bungled Caroline, Bill’s handling of Ted was even worse. The day after Iowa, he phoned Kennedy and pressed for an endorsement, making the case for his wife. But Bill then went on, belittling Obama in a manner that deeply offended Kennedy. Recounting the conversation later to a friend, Teddy fumed that Clinton had said, A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.
174 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:25:49pm

re: #160 Jimmah

OT - It’s troofer time again…gaah!

[Link: logisticsmonster.com…]

Gaah, indeed.

175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:26:13pm

re: #167 JasonA

Saw somewhere that President Clinton may have meant that because he was a Junior Senator…

Sure.

176 Four More Tears  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:27:09pm

re: #175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw somewhere that President Clinton may have meant that because he was a Junior Senator…

Sure.

Uh huh. Some tight spots can’t be spun out of.

177 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:27:34pm

re: #144 wrenchwench

It was a VERY colorful sunset, tonight!
I went to watch, but was hoping someone’d post the towercam!

178 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:28:07pm

re: #160 Jimmah

That quote is already too much. I am not reading that. I will not click…will not…willl… argh! Stupid sucks
you in.

179 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:28:46pm

re: #6 jamesfirecat

A beast never fights harder than when its cornered. Hear this was a “good” year for the KKK at some places as well, lets just hope these increased numbers are nothing more than the “death throes” of such vile organizations.

But given that John Birch is getting invited to help host CPAC they might be planning to take the entire Republican party as we know it out with them when they go…

got a link for the KKK stats? I”d like to learn more. Apologies if it’s already been posted further down. I just got here, trying to catch up.

How are you-all tonite?

180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:29:16pm

re: #160 Jimmah

Oh. My. God.

181 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:29:39pm

RE: the upsurge in Birch popularity - I’m thinking it was because of the Hitler/Obama photos that people saw at the town halls. Hey! Who are those folks? Let’s look them up!! Not knowing their history or wackiness.

182 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:29:40pm

re: #160 Jimmah

The “Vodpod” section chock full o’ Alex Jones.

183 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:30:53pm

re: #167 JasonA

I was thinking before (far be it from me to defend slick willy,but…)was his comment meant as a racist slur,or was it a commentary on obamas quick rise to prominence(who had even heard of barak obama eight years ago?)

184 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:31:37pm

re: #179 ggt

got a link for the KKK stats? I”d like to learn more. Apologies if it’s already been posted further down. I just got here, trying to catch up.

How are you-all tonite?

Well, a good place to start is the Southern Pov. Law Center

SPLC

185 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:31:38pm

You know, how long do you think it will be before Alex Jones speaks at CPAC? Do you think he will be on the roster before or after Michelle Malkin?

186 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:31:54pm

re: #165 austin_blue

Oh, gah! If you are going to hire terrorists, hire competent ones.

You would think they could at least hire a spellchecker.

187 brookly red  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:32:13pm

re: #183 Boondock St. Bender

I was thinking before (far be it from me to defend slick willy,but…)was his comment meant as a racist slur,or was it a commentary on obamas quick rise to prominence(who had even heard of barak obama eight years ago?)

the beauty of stupidity is

188 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:33:13pm

re: #187 brookly red

True in either case it was a stupid thing to say.

189 brookly red  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:33:45pm

hey where did the rest go? oh well.

the beauty of stupidity is that it can work on many levels…

190 SteveC  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:36:19pm

Just got here, so this may already be posted. A friend of mine says there was 6.3 earthquake in San Francisco area. Bay area lizards OK?

191 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:37:03pm

re: #181 Stanley Sea

RE: the upsurge in Birch popularity - I’m thinking it was because of the Hitler/Obama photos that people saw at the town halls. Hey! Who are those folks? Let’s look them up!! Not knowing their history or wackiness.

This goes to the danger of letting kids get their “news” strictly from the internet. Its not the kid’s fault if in their ignorance they buy into the version of history some loon is churning out. It looks kinda officially and historical-like what with the Declaration and all.

192 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:37:24pm

re: #177 Floral Giraffe

It was a VERY colorful sunset, tonight!
I went to watch, but was hoping someone’d post the towercam!

Awesome..The most beautiful sunset’s in the world are in Napa Valley…
/hope today finds you well

193 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:37:47pm

re: #190 SteveC

Just got here, so this may already be posted. A friend of mine says there was 6.3 earthquake in San Francisco area. Bay area lizards OK?

No idea, but here is a great site:

[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov…]

194 austin_blue  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:38:04pm

re: #190 SteveC

Just got here, so this may already be posted. A friend of mine says there was 6.3 earthquake in San Francisco area. Bay area lizards OK?

Here’s the info from the USGS:

[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov…]

195 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:38:26pm

re: #190 SteveC

Haven’t felt a thing.

196 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:38:56pm

re: #191 Escaped Hillbilly

That’s why loose change pulled the wool over so many eyes.

197 The Sanity Inspector  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:39:38pm

re: #186 Escaped Hillbilly

You would think they could at least hire a spellchecker.

Youtube Video
198 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:39:40pm

re: #194 austin_blue

Here’s the info from the USGS:

[Link: earthquake.usgs.gov…]

Looks like it was offshore, 6.5

199 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:40:20pm

re: #198 Thanos

Looks like it was offshore, 6.5

Offshore quake?
Tsunami alert!
/ / / / /

200 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:40:33pm

re: #158 negativ

I doubt whether you’ve inadvertently ‘partaken’ of decomposing midget prostitutes, but I have accidentally poured expired milk on cereal and shoveled a heapin’ helpin’ into my eating hole before the aroma had time to hit my nose.

You’d be amazed at how many pints of vomit a single teaspoon of rotten milk can generate.

Well, I’m glad I was having supper and missing most of the rotten milk follow up comments.

I guess I type with too straight a face, but just to calm everyones fears, most of my comments about the funny or dangerous things happening with the trash compactor was mainly my warped sense of humor.

I have been learning how to use it, yes, I suspect that we put things in there that technically should not be compacted, but no, I didn’t find any midget prostitutes in the discarded refrigerators.

Humor folks, just a little humor. Next week, store security.

201 austin_blue  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:40:34pm

re: #190 SteveC

Just got here, so this may already be posted. A friend of mine says there was 6.3 earthquake in San Francisco area. Bay area lizards OK?

Epicenter near Humbpldt. Way up the coast. Twenty miles offshore, shallow focus strike slip. Little chance of significant wave action. Doesn’t look like a bad one.

202 Jimmah  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:40:35pm

re: #182 Thanos

The “Vodpod” section chock full o’ Alex Jones.

B-but this Haskell dude is a LAWYER - he’s all professional and stuff! When somone like that appears on the Alex Jones show, you know it’s all troo!/

203 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:40:47pm

Here’s a map to the loc, looks like semi shallow water

[Link: maps.google.com…]

204 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:40:53pm

re: #107 negativ

Hmm, hadn’t thought of that. Usually, I figure someone at the library wants to be left alone. Plus, I have no idea how to approach women I don’t know and strike up conversation without coming across as Ted Bundy. Or Al Bundy, but mostly Ted Bundy.

This is EXACTLY my thought process about such things:

[Link: xkcd.com…]

IIRC, Bill and Hill met at a library …

205 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:42:17pm

re: #192 HoosierHoops

You just think the world’s most beautiful sunsets are in Nappa.
It’s the whole state!
Lovely here!
How’s your snow?

206 Randall Gross  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:42:38pm

It’s in North state, closer to the Oregon border than SF

207 Jimmah  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:43:20pm

K folks - early one for me - have a good one :)

208 SteveC  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:44:23pm

Good to hear that the Bay Area Brigade is safe! Rock on with your bad selves! (USGS requests that you turn it down just a little bit, though)

209 Stanghazi  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:44:25pm

re: #207 Jimmah

Wait! Did you go to the Dr?

210 abolitionist  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:45:38pm

re: #160 Jimmah

OT - It’s troofer time again…gaah!

[Link: logisticsmonster.com…]

…they have launched a cover-up by refusing to even acknowledge the existence of another man who filmed the entire flight, including the aborted attack…

If any of his 72 virgins were to say, You killed the infidels how? —the jihadist could do an instant replay, dispelling all doubt. Makes perfect sense.

/

211 Jimmah  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:45:39pm

Oh - one more thing before I go - pic of Britain from space this week:

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk…]

night!

212 jaunte  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:46:29pm

re: #133 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

More Venezuela news:

2 lawmakers say Venezuela belongs on U.S. terror list

…Rep. Ros-Lehtinen cited DEA reports that demonstrate a Venezuelan connection in a new alliance formed between the FARC and al Qaeda, in which the oil producing nation plays the part of a “massive airport for the use of the traffickers.”

“It is no surprise that Hugo Chávez allows Venezuela to serve as a massive airport for the use of traffickers. In fact the DEA has said that all the planes captured in West Africa left from Venezuela,” Ros-Lehtinen said.

She explained that the recent arrest of three African agents of al Qaeda after a drug smuggling operation showed a new panorama of cooperation between Islamic extremist groups and those of South American narco-guerrillas.

[Link: www.miamiherald.com…]

213 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:47:39pm

re: #199 reine.de.tout

It’s kind of funny, yet sad as well. When you drive that stretch of the coast, every hill you go down has an “Entering Tsunami Zone” sign, and every hill you go up has a “Leaving Tsunami Zone” sign. There’s hundreds of them, very hilly stretch of the coast. Crescent City got hit by a Tsunami, and it left marks!

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

214 Jimmah  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:48:47pm

re: #209 Stanley Sea

Wait! Did you go to the Dr?

Yes - verdict : torn rotator cuff + broken upper arm. Painkillers and physio for me!

Gotta go for real now - later!

215 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:50:01pm

re: #205 Floral Giraffe

You just think the world’s most beautiful sunsets are in Nappa.
It’s the whole state!
Lovely here!
How’s your snow?

Hey friend! At 4am this morning I posted I was being transfered this year.. Probably Singapore….Wanted you to know I’m moving again…
Once I settle down again I’ll ask Charles if I can change my nic to SingaporeHoops or just the Hoopster…
Ring ring… Daddy?
Yes?
Can I store all my stuff at your house again?
Going away again?
I got a new car daddy…
mmmm…I think about it..
*wink*

216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:50:46pm

re: #215 HoosierHoops

Congrats, pal. An adventure!

217 Escaped Hillbilly  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:51:28pm

re: #204 ggt
Figures. Some of us read in them. But again, explains a lot from my teen years. heh

218 SteveC  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:52:11pm

re: #214 Jimmah

Yes - verdict : torn rotator cuff + broken upper arm. Painkillers and physio for me!

Gotta go for real now - later!

Feel for ya, brother! Slipped and fell in the shower, tried to catch myself. Missed, but tore the rotator cuff.

At least you can *Ahem!* ICE your injury!

219 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:53:12pm

re: #184 Stanley Sea

Well, a good place to start is the Southern Pov. Law Center

SPLC

Thanks, but I couldn’t find current stats. I’ll keep looking.

220 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:58:29pm

I finally catch-up and there is a new thread …

221 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 5:59:18pm

re: #215 HoosierHoops

Yes, you may store your stuff at my house, AGAIN!
Singapore has the potential to be a TON of fun!
What’s going to happen to Winston?
Do you get a return to the US date, with the transfer?
Can you request California?
Do you get paid in USD?
I hope it’s a lot of fun!
{{HH}}

222 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:02:06pm

re: #216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Congrats, pal. An adventure!

I knew my time wasn’t long in Indiana.. I got the call Friday…Time to move on..
We do 3 year shifts..
So this summer my avatar will be Winston the Beverly Hills Chihuahua looking out the window of a high rise apartment in Asia…
/I swear Hoopster we could go to LA and I’d be good with it…
//Shut up little dog..Find us some Chinese Delivery in the phone book
/// How about Mexican?
//// They probably eat dogs here..
///// Where is that phone book hoopster?

223 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:05:41pm

re: #222 HoosierHoops

Can you take Winston without a hideous quarrantine?
What about bringing him home?
3 years. You’ll be an old pro!
(Can I come visit?)
I’m going to be in Singapore in Nov. 2012, I think it is….

224 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:14:37pm

re: #223 Floral Giraffe

Can you take Winston without a hideous quarrantine?
What about bringing him home?
3 years. You’ll be an old pro!
(Can I come visit?)
I’m going to be in Singapore in Nov. 2012, I think it is…

Hi you..You can always visit.. Winston loves Company!
Per your questions.. Taxes are complex when living overseas.. You get paid USD but must pay local taxes in their currency..
I miss California…My home office is on Central express freeway in Silly Cone Valley…I go home once a year to visit the office *What the fuck is up homies?*
And visit family…My Home is just outside of Yountville…See what daddy is doing to the garden…

225 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Jan 9, 2010 6:19:38pm

re: #224 HoosierHoops

Find a good accountant who knows this stuff BEFORE you take the job!
He’ll save you a bundle.
IIRC, BIL got paid in the US in USD, which saved a bundle on the UK taxes.
But, I’m no expert!
I know you miss Ca.
But, you’re gonna travel the world!
Singapore is going to be SO GREAT.
I’m assuming the transfers are staged, so you’ll be able to hook up with guys who have been there awhile & show you around.
WOO HOOO!

226 ernie1241  Sun, Jan 10, 2010 9:00:37am

Albert F. Canwell was the first Chairman of the Washington State Un-American Activities Committee. He was an ardent supporter of Senator Joe McCarthy. In later years, the editor of the Birch Society magazine, American Opinion, asked Canwell to write several articles for American Opinion—-which Canwell did.

Canwell was also a paid speaker under the auspices of the JBS Speakers Bureau and he made speeches around the country for them. The JBS publicity release on Canwell described him as follows:

“Mr. Canwell is one of America’s principal authorities on the internal threat from Communism. During his tenure as Chairman of the Washington State Committee on Un-American Activities, he was the first person to expose the machinations of Alger Hiss. An author, Mr. Canwell has published articles in American Opinion magazine…He has also served as Chief of the Identification Branch in the Spokane Sheriff’s Department, worked on foreign investigations for the late Scott McLeod of the Department of State, and helped the FBI uncover Soviet espionage operations during the 1940’s. A keen researcher, crack investigator, and excellent speaker, Mr. Canwell is now Director of the American Intelligence Service and Freedom Library, Inc. of Washington.”

In 1963, Canwell was one of several defendants in a libel lawsuit initiated by a Washington State legislator. Several JBS members and supporters were co-defendants with Canwell because they had published material claiming that the state legislator and his wife were Communist or “under Communist discipline”. A JBS chapter leader in Bellingham WA formed a Citizens Defense Fund to assist all of the defendants in that lawsuit—including Canwell. The judge in the case ruled that Canwell should be considered an “expert witness” about communist matters.

So, are you now properly impressed with Canwell’s JBS-friendly credentials?

Here, then, is an excerpt from Canwell’s lengthy 1997 Oral History interview about his long anti-Communist career. Timothy Frederick was the interviewer. Canwell’s comments about Robert Welch may be found starting on page 283 of the transcript:

[Link: www.secstate.wa.gov…]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Canwell:
“The issues were that Robert Welch was not an anti-Communist. He was an opportunist, a world socialist actually, and he was doing a very dishonest job. He would gather some very fine people about him. He was a member of the National Manufacturers Association. So he sold them the idea that he was anti-Communist and that he had this program going and then he got quite a number of them to join his group. But what he was actually doing was getting people who were well identified as anti-Communist and able Americans, he’d get them to go along in his society and then he would smear them, destroy them. And that was what his object was.”

Frederick:
Why was he doing that?

Canwell:
“Because he was an international socialist. I went to work in looking into his background when I began to have trouble with him. And I found that he had attended the London School of Economics, the top socialist school in the world. It became very obvious to me that he was able to acquire this leadership position by moving into the anti-Communist movement and pretending to be something that he was not. And then some of his own kind of people helped him do that: Drew Pearson, and others, who all of a sudden were attacking Robert Welch and giving him reams of free publicity. And the so-called Americans or anti-Communists thought, ‘Well, if Drew Pearson is against him, he must be all right.’ Actually Pearson and Welch were hand-in-glove.”

For complete excerpt see the link above.

227 ernie1241  Sun, Jan 10, 2010 9:04:04am

Discover why J. Edgar Hoover and senior FBI officials within the Buerau’s Domestic Intelligence Division concluded that the Birch Society was “extremist”, “irrational”, “irresponsible”, “fanatics” and “lunatic fringe”.

FBI FILES ON JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY:
Your text to link…


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