Sarah Palin at the Iowa GOP Ronald Reagan Dinner
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:41:25pm |
She just said “refudiation.” That’s her thing now — exploit the sympathy of the rubes for ignorance.
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wrenchwench Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:41:39pm |
Nobody laughed when she pulled out “refudiation” again. Maybe they thought she still thinks it’s a word.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:42:18pm |
Sarah Palin giving a speech at dinner honoring Ronald Reagan = EPIC FAIL
He was much smarter than she’ll ever be.
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:42:22pm |
I would really love to watch it but shockwave flash crashes every time I come here… what is up with that?
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jaunte Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:44:30pm |
“We must sacrifice for the great American experiment.”
Unless it means raising taxes a few percentage points.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:44:54pm |
re: #1 Charles
She just said “refudiation.” That’s her thing now — exploit the sympathy of the rubes for ignorance.
It’s shame that “refudiation” will go down as a Palinism. It’s a fun word and I wish it had been GWB’s instead. Then I wouldn’t cringe every time I hear it.
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:44:55pm |
I love these thousand something comment threads about how irrelevant she is…
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:45:54pm |
re: #1 Charles
She just said “refudiation.” That’s her thing now — exploit the sympathy of the rubes for ignorance.
LOL
I had to Google that word.. LGF is #4 on Google…
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:46:09pm |
It looks like she’s getting bored with giving speeches again. It’s obvious she doesn’t believe half of the shit she’s reading. She just wants to speak in sound-bytes and tweets.
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wrenchwench Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:46:37pm |
re: #8 brookly red
I love these thousand something comment threads about how irrelevant she is…
Link?
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:46:50pm |
Fake, overly sweet and awful, like choking on marzipan.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:46:59pm |
Wonder how much they paid the grifter for that?
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:48:06pm |
Some great unedited interview-yelling going on now.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:49:21pm |
re: #8 brookly red
I love these thousand something comment threads about how irrelevant she is…
No one said she’s irrelevant. She is sadly America’s leading Marchpane Nazi.
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:49:48pm |
re: #8 brookly red
I love these thousand something comment threads about how irrelevant she is…
I don’t think she’s irrelevant. I think she’s the perfect spokesperson for today’s GOP. All window dressing and no substance, and I enjoy openly mocking her.
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:50:44pm |
re: #14 Charles
Wonder how much they paid the grifter for that?
100,000 dollars. She doesn’t spread for less, apparently.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:50:44pm |
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:51:13pm |
re: #17 Cato the Elder
No one said she’s irrelevant. She is sadly America’s leading Marchpane Nazi.
Marchapane? oooh no wonder she is so popular!
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:51:21pm |
C-SPAN is keeping the audio feed open while she talks to the crowd and the press. Interesting.
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wrenchwench Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:51:36pm |
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:51:36pm |
re: #21 Dark_Falcon
Yep, and Bristol will be dancing to “Mama Told Me Not to Come” by Three Dog Night. Levi says he was given the same advice.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:51:46pm |
Reagan was a pathological liar.
Palin is in the right venue.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:51:57pm |
re: #20 darthstar
100,000 dollars. She doesn’t spread for less, apparently.
That was a rotten thing to say. Making that kind of crass sexual shot is just plain wrong. You’re better than that, darthstar.
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engineer cat Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:52:10pm |
i’m looking forward to the epic car accident of mooselina vs smiley in 2012
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goddamnedfrank Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:52:20pm |
re: #15 Charles
Some great unedited interview-yelling going on now.
“Todd’s a lucky guy!”
Over and over again.
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blueraven Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:53:11pm |
re: #6 jaunte
“We must sacrifice for the great American experiment.”
Unless it means raising taxes a few percentage points.
No, the sacrifice is for the middle class, the unemployed, the sick, the weak and the poor.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:53:33pm |
It’s time America refudiate, perpitrate and emasculate conflaguated expressed opinions with political ingrates and world views that expressly inundate us of Values and views…
So Help me Lord
-Future Sarah Speechwriter in training
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:53:56pm |
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:53:59pm |
She may be as dumb as a post, but it’s hard to deny that she’s a lightning rod for a certain element of the right wing electorate.
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:57:15pm |
re: #33 Charles
She may be as dumb as a post, but it’s hard to deny that she’s a lightning rod for a certain element of the right wing electorate.
yet again we are discussing her here… I am so confused.
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blueraven Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:58:20pm |
re: #34 brookly red
yet again we are discussing her here… I am so confused.
I think you just made Charles’ point.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:58:57pm |
re: #34 brookly red
yet again we are discussing her here… I am so confused.
We truly undermisestimated her. And who else did we undermisestimate…?
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Four More Tears Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:59:00pm |
re: #33 Charles
She may be as dumb as a post, but it’s hard to deny that she’s a lightning rod for a certain element of the right wing electorate.
Are we still talking about the anti-masturbation thing?
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 5:59:48pm |
re: #37 JasonA
Are we still talking about the anti-masturbation thing?
Bet on it for the next 6 weeks.
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engineer cat Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:00:15pm |
re: #34 brookly red
yet again we are discussing her here… I am so confused.
i have been trying to come up with a word to describe political figures that we can’t take our eyes off of since we are waiting for the next stupid or insane thing to come out of their mouths
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:02:31pm |
re: #35 blueraven
I think you just made Charles’ point.
Maybe I did… I mean I am going more to the right every day (and I thank some posters here) but I don’t consider Palin a serious point of discussion. The only place she shows up is in the fear of the left… wtf?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:03:39pm |
She devoted a good chunk of her speech to addressing the “We’re not extremists” meme. I think it’s really bad strategy for the Republicans. It only makes the moderates curious enough to look into the allegations. It’s like trying to explain to a date that “I’m not a pervert”. The argument is lost as soon as you bring it up.
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:03:50pm |
re: #36 Decatur Deb
We truly undermisestimated her. And who else did we undermisestimate…?
I under estimate no one…
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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:04:46pm |
re: #41 brookly red
The only place she shows up is in the fear of the left… wtf?
Did you miss the video of her speaking at the Republican event?
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:04:53pm |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:05:59pm |
re: #41 brookly red
You are going more to the right every day in full knowledge of the racist, nativist, fascist corporatism that it embraces?
Why do you even bother reading LGF?
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Linden Arden Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:06:59pm |
Oh shit!
Just winged by C-Span and got some Santorum on my shoe.
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wrenchwench Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:07:21pm |
She picked on Obama for “letting down” the people of Iran, and she talked up Reagan, but she failed to mention how much Reagan helped Iranians by selling them weapons.
Oh, wait.
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:07:37pm |
re: #46 Cato the Elder
You are going more to the right every day in full knowledge of the racist, nativist, fascist corporatism that it embraces?
Why do you even bother reading LGF?
just to piss you off
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:09:09pm |
re: #45 Decatur Deb
Yeah, but you live in Brookly. It’s a survival thing.
well when you get back to nature you learn to trust your intuition…
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engineer cat Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:09:20pm |
as long as these idiots are out of power they are amusing, but what worries me is what happens if their ravings are enacted into law
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AlexRogan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:09:55pm |
re: #41 brookly red
Maybe I did… I mean I am going more to the right every day (and I thank some posters here) but I don’t consider Palin a serious point of discussion. The only place she shows up is in the fear of
the leftanyone with functioning brain cells… wtf?
Sarah! is a political opportunist, whose populism sells to right-wingers that fear President Obama more than the damage that they themselves are doing to American political discourse.
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:10:39pm |
re: #44 Killgore Trout
Did you miss the video of her speaking at the Republican event?
well actually yes I did … I don’t do video & I don’t do crack. same shit really.
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:12:07pm |
re: #52 talon_262
Sarah! is a political opportunist, whose populism sells to right-wingers that fear President Obama more than the damage that they themselves are doing to American political discourse.
yeah so what? a political opportunist? like that was a new thing…
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:15:28pm |
re: #46 Cato the Elder
You are going more to the right every day in full knowledge of the racist, nativist, fascist corporatism that it embraces?
Why do you even bother reading LGF?
well then are you trying to tell me this is a leftist site & I am not welcome? Oh my, it would seem that way… but hey we all know the deal right?
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:17:13pm |
re: #33 Charles
She may be as dumb as a post, but it’s hard to deny that she’s a lightning rod for a certain element of the right wing electorate.
Remember before Nov 2, 2008 when one of the Republican memes was that Obama supporters constituted a personality cult? Yeah.
Thooooose were the daaaaaaays
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blueraven Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:17:56pm |
re: #41 brookly red
Maybe I did… I mean I am going more to the right every day (and I thank some posters here) but I don’t consider Palin a serious point of discussion. The only place she shows up is in the fear of the left… wtf?
lol…that is such bull. Feel free to defend her us against all of us “lefties”.
I think thou does protest too much.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:19:32pm |
Extra, extra! We have a new Jon McNaughton work of extreme bad craziness:
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:20:02pm |
re: #57 blueraven
Yah, that fear thing always cracks me up too. That and, if one is a woman, that we’re just jealous. MmmHmmm
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:20:59pm |
re: #33 Charles
She may be as dumb as a post, but it’s hard to deny that she’s a lightning rod for a certain element of the right wing electorate.
That’s an insult to posts, you know.
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:21:19pm |
re: #57 blueraven
lol…that is such bull. Feel free to defend her us against all of us “lefties”.
I think thou does protest too much.
wow you did actually attend high school! my bad… what did I protest moron?
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:21:26pm |
re: #41 brookly red
Maybe I did… I mean I am going more to the right every day (and I thank some posters here) but I don’t consider Palin a serious point of discussion. The only place she shows up is in the fear of the left… wtf?
Not suggesting that brooky red is actually trolling, but it is a little difficult to be sure.
warning: that specific link is fairly safe, but the site in general is extraordinarily NSFW, so follow random links at your perl
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wrenchwench Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:21:37pm |
re: #58 Charles
Extra, extra! We have a new Jon McNaughton work of extreme bad craziness:
[Link: www.mcnaughtonart.com…]
Is that Joe the Plumber on the bench?
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:23:48pm |
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:24:01pm |
re: #63 wrenchwench
Is that Joe the Plumber on the bench?
I think that’s The White Man In America, dismayed at what’s become of His Country.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:24:37pm |
re: #58 Charles
Extra, extra! We have a new Jon McNaughton work of extreme bad craziness:
[Link: www.mcnaughtonart.com…]
Raphael meets Franklin Mint.
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:24:53pm |
re: #62 negativ
Not suggesting that brooky red is actually trolling, but it is a little difficult to be sure.
warning: that specific link is fairly safe, but the site in general is extraordinarily NSFW, so follow random links at your perl
ethnic cleanse much? you just can’t deal with other opinions much can you… no I guess not.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:25:29pm |
Black president against a sea of old white faces. Oh no. No racism here.
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:26:53pm |
re: #58 Charles
What. The. Fuck.
Seriously. I just can’t wrap my head around that kind of idiocy. How do these people get through their daily lives without harming themselves?
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palomino Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:27:23pm |
Dale Peterson: “you govern by the constitution and that includes God and family. That’s why we’re the greatest country on earth.”
WTF?
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blueraven Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:27:33pm |
re: #61 brookly red
wow you did actually attend high school! my bad… what did I protest moron?
You should attend the sanity rally. Maybe you could learn something.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:28:16pm |
re: #58 Charles
Extra, extra! We have a new Jon McNaughton work of extreme bad craziness:
[Link: www.mcnaughtonart.com…]
That guy’s art reminds me of a mix of Robert Williams and Joe Coleman. I’m sure that’s not at all what McNaughton was going for, but there it is nevertheless.
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:28:30pm |
re: #71 palomino
I would love for someone to point out the relevant passages in the Constitution that are about God and family.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:29:08pm |
re: #59 allegro
Yah, that fear thing always cracks me up too. That and, if one is a woman, that we’re just jealous. MmmHmmm
BINGO
Poor Sister Sarah, no responsibility at all.
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Reginald Perrin Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:30:34pm |
re: #55 brookly red
well then are you trying to tell me this is a leftist site & I am not welcome? Oh my, it would seem that way… but hey we all know the deal right?
This is Charles Johnson’s blog, are you forgetting that? He decides who leaves LGF. Why don’t you act like an adult and quit with the drama queen routine. Quit feeding the stalkers with your paranoia about a leftist conspiracy to purge LGF of right wingers.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:30:55pm |
re: #74 Lidane
I would love for someone to point out the relevant passages in the Constitution that are about God and family.
Andy Schlafley is working on the conservative edition of the Constitution that has all the liberal propaganda tweezed out.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:31:02pm |
re: #65 Charles
I think that’s The White Man In America, dismayed at what’s become of His Country.
“The Forgotten Man”!
And - surprise - not a single woman in sight.
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Linden Arden Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:31:31pm |
re: #74 Lidane
I would love for someone to point out the relevant passages in the Constitution that are about God and family.
Hold on!
(opens new Texas history textbook)…..
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:32:41pm |
re: #71 palomino
Dale Peterson: “you govern by the constitution and that includes God and family. That’s why we’re the greatest country on earth.”
WTF?
Perspective: Our Alabama GOP primary voters deprived this man of candidacy for Commissioner of Agriculture.
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:33:18pm |
re: #75 Stanley Sea
Poor Sister Sarah, no responsibility at all.
Of course not. She’s a wingnut.
For Caribou Barbie and people like her, it’s BOOTSTRAPS OMG for everyone else, but not for them.
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:33:38pm |
re: #58 Charles
Extra, extra! We have a new Jon McNaughton work of extreme bad craziness:
[Link: www.mcnaughtonart.com…]
Bad crazy indeed.
In McNaughton’s “The Forgotten Man,” I noticed immediately that Teddy Roosevelt was positioned on the left with such evil characters as FDR, Woodrow Wilson, and (the horror!) Bill Clinton. Do they really think TR was a RINO? Apparently they do. As you scroll over the individual images, a sidebar gives a brief evaluation of each president. Sure enough, TR is excoriated for “turning to the left” after 1907, and “called for movement toward what would later be called a ‘welfare state.’”
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webevintage Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:33:42pm |
re: #8 brookly red
I love these thousand something comment threads about how irrelevant she is…
She’s not at all irrelevant.
She and people like her are a danger to this country.
Plus she’s a “mean girl” and they should always be stopped.
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wrenchwench Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:33:56pm |
re: #68 Charles
Black president against a sea of old white faces. Oh no. No racism here.
If there were any doubt, one could read what he says about HB 1070 (better known as SB 1070) and the Fourteenth Amendment.
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jaunte Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:34:24pm |
re: #82 Shiplord Kirel
I see McNaughton has Clinton, FDR and Teddy Roosevelt off to the right side (their left) applauding. Eisenhower (of the 90% top tax rate) isn’t
part of the group, but seems to be hidden off in the background.
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:34:39pm |
re: #67 brookly red
ethnic cleanse much? you just can’t deal with other opinions much can you… no I guess not.
au contraire mon frere / Im Gegenteil mein Bruder
I’m not engaging in serial murder of anyone based on their ethnicity or anything else. I can easily deal with other opinions. Don’t get your panties in a bunch.
Give me lots of opinions I can’t stand. NOW!
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wrenchwench Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:35:34pm |
re: #78 Cato the Elder
“The Forgotten Man”!
And - surprise - not a single woman in sight.
Next up, “The Even More Forgotten Woman”!
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AlexRogan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:35:57pm |
re: #55 brookly red
well then are you trying to tell me this is a leftist site & I am not welcome? Oh my, it would seem that way… but hey we all know the deal right?
No, bonehead…Cato was asking why you would be going more to the right, when there have been many, many, many examples over the past couple of years of the GOP and the American right going headlong into the bad craziness (I’m not gonna list all of the subjects, because you’ve seen most, if not all, of them). In light of all of that, you’re still going to plunge headlong into that fever swamp? It doesn’t make sense for a logical person to do that, unless they’re letting irrational emotions guide their political decisions.
(For the record: I consider myself center-right, so you can’t use the “lefty” argument. Up through the 2008 elections, I voted overwhelmingly Republican for 15 years, but in light of this shit that’s been going on with the GOP over the past two years, it’d take a really exceptional (and sane) GOP candidate to get me to pull the lever for them.)
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Linden Arden Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:37:08pm |
re: #82 Shiplord Kirel
Well - to a Teabagger a Trust-buster like TR would be “taking over private enterprises”.
Its like a few FinReg rules passed in July are “big government” when they just prevent collusion or fraud.
These people are fucking insane.
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webevintage Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:37:12pm |
re: #58 Charles
Extra, extra! We have a new Jon McNaughton work of extreme bad craziness:
[Link: www.mcnaughtonart.com…]
hahahahahahaha
WTH?
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blueraven Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:37:34pm |
re: #85 jaunte
I see McNaughton has Clinton, FDR and Teddy Roosevelt off to the right side (their left) applauding. Eisenhower (of the 90% top tax rate) isn’t
part of the group, but seems to be hidden off in the background.
Not much for subtlety, is he?
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:37:41pm |
re: #81 Lidane
For Caribou Barbie and people like her, it’s BOOTSTRAPS OMG for everyone else, but not for them.
I’m probably going to hate myself for this, but I’m going to defend Sara here. She is a brilliant self-promoter who has earned the place she now occupies. It was not given to her. McCain gave her the national exposure but since then, it’s been hers to grab and she has done so masterfully. She does not have an intellect for leadership but she is one helluva entertainer.
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:38:09pm |
re: #82 Shiplord Kirel
Bad crazy indeed.
In McNaughton’s “The Forgotten Man,” I noticed immediately that Teddy Roosevelt was positioned on the left with such evil characters as FDR, Woodrow Wilson, and (the horror!) Bill Clinton. Do they really think TR was a RINO? Apparently they do. As you scroll over the individual images, a sidebar gives a brief evaluation of each president. Sure enough, TR is excoriated for “turning to the left” after 1907, and “called for movement toward what would later be called a ‘welfare state.’”
Not only that, but the artist still has Lincoln on the Republican side.
Didn’t this guy get the wingnut memo that Lincoln is hated by the teabaggers and the current GOP base?
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jaunte Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:38:43pm |
I see McNaughton gave Ike a pass on the income tax because he warned about the military-industrial complex*, and started the national highway system.
/*RonPaul!
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blueraven Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:38:58pm |
re: #88 talon_262
No, bonehead…Cato was asking why you would be going more to the right, when there have been many, many, many examples over the past couple of years of the GOP and the American right going headlong into the bad craziness (I’m not gonna list all of the subjects, because you’ve seen most, if not all, of them). In light of all of that, you’re still going to plunge headlong into that fever swamp? It doesn’t make sense for a logical person to do that, unless they’re letting irrational emotions guide their political decisions.
(For the record: I consider myself center-right, so you can’t use the “lefty” argument. Up through the 2008 elections, I voted overwhelmingly Republican for 15 years, but in light of this shit that’s been going on with the GOP over the past two years, it’d take a really exceptional (and sane) GOP candidate to get me to pull the lever for them.)
But brookly is a democrat./
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:40:02pm |
re: #92 allegro
I’m probably going to hate myself for this, but I’m going to defend Sara here. She is a brilliant self-promoter who has earned the place she now occupies. It was not given to her. McCain gave her the national exposure but since then, it’s been hers to grab and she has done so masterfully. She does not have an intellect for leadership but she is one helluva entertainer.
A friend of mine once verbally slapped me down for describing the amazing skills of some Venetian pick-pockets. Slap.
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webevintage Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:40:36pm |
re: #90 webevintage
hahahahahahaha
WTH?
Sorry I meant:
WTH?
Who is that behind Obama and what is he doing?
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engineer cat Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:41:04pm |
Do they really think TR was a RINO?
teabagger approved presidents before st ronnie only include such classics as coolidge, mckinley, and benjamin harrison
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:41:49pm |
re: #85 jaunte
That painting is sooo going to get Cthulhuized.
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Jeff In Ohio Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:41:53pm |
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:42:21pm |
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:42:38pm |
re: #85 jaunte
I see McNaughton has Clinton, FDR and Teddy Roosevelt off to the right side (their left) applauding. Eisenhower (of the 90% top tax rate) isn’t
part of the group, but seems to be hidden off in the background.
Yeah, Eisenhower is way in the back with such luminaries as Franklin Pierce and Warren Harding. The comments also use Rutherford B. Hayes to plug a return to the gold standard, giving Hayes’s return to the standard the credit for the recovery from the Panic of 1873 (ie 4 years before Hayes took office, and 6 years before the return to the gold standard.)
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Linden Arden Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:44:08pm |
re: #103 Shiplord Kirel
And thus began the Greenback Party - a real peoples party like we will not see again.
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:45:07pm |
re: #93 Lidane
Not only that, but the artist still has Lincoln on the Republican side.
Didn’t this guy get the wingnut memo that Lincoln is hated by the teabaggers and the current GOP base?
The notes on Lincoln are pretty critical (first income tax, unauthorized spending, national bank, suspension of habeus corpus etc.)
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:47:45pm |
re: #92 allegro
I’m probably going to hate myself for this, but I’m going to defend Sara here. She is a brilliant self-promoter who has earned the place she now occupies. It was not given to her. McCain gave her the national exposure but since then, it’s been hers to grab and she has done so masterfully. She does not have an intellect for leadership but she is one helluva entertainer.
Every time I say almost exactly this same thing about Paris Hilton, they taser me and adjust my meds.
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engineer cat Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:47:45pm |
re: #103 Shiplord Kirel
Yeah, Eisenhower is way in the back with such luminaries as Franklin Pierce and Warren Harding. The comments also use Rutherford B. Hayes to plug a return to the gold standard, giving Hayes’s return to the standard the credit for the recovery from the Panic of 1873 (ie 4 years before Hayes took office, and 6 years before the return to the gold standard.)
how soon before they start calling for a return to property tests for voting and a privileged aristocracy?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:52:08pm |
sorry I’m lurking. I just don’t have much to say tonight.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:52:56pm |
re: #108 Dark_Falcon
sorry I’m lurking. I just don’t have much to say tonight.
I’m lurking too, DF, sometimes it just works out that way. Don’t apologize!
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Four More Tears Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:53:09pm |
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Interesting Times Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:53:29pm |
re: #97 webevintage
Sorry I meant:
WTH?
Who is that behind Obama and what is he doing?
As per Wonkette’s inimitable take:
Jesus-Constitution Painting Guy Has New Painting, Minus Jesus
Why didn’t Obama notice he had a Constitution stuck to his shoe when he left the restroom stall? Why doesn’t he notice the DOZENS of president zombies behind him? Why doesn’t he notice James Madison is trying to do a team-building trust exercise with him?
And, from the comments:
Is the forgotten man one of the crazy people that were put out on the street when Reagan closed the mental hospitals?
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Four More Tears Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:53:35pm |
re: #109 reine.de.tout
How many cigarettes are you down to?
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Mr Pancakes Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:53:39pm |
re: #109 reine.de.tout
I’m lurking too, DF, sometimes it just works out that way. Don’t apologize!
Lurk mode here.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:54:23pm |
re: #108 Dark_Falcon
sorry I’m lurking. I just don’t have much to say tonight.
You’d never make it at an the HQDA staff meeting.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:54:28pm |
Instaracist declares taxpayers are Obama’s Negroes……
And — to take things beyond the Obama question — on a similar moral plane. In fact, if you look at a Marxist Utopia — say, Cuba — what you’ll see is basically a plantation. At the top, you’ve got the Massa and his family — Fidel, Raul, et al. — followed by various layers of overseers — the Communist Party apparat, the secret police — and House Negroes — e.g., the state-controlled media — all living off the surplus labor of the Field Negroes, whose produce is disposed of not according to their own desires (that would be capitalism!) but according to their betters’. This, we’re told, is for the best, since they aren’t smart enough to make their own decisions anyway, and the Massa looks after them with food, housing, and health care. Slaveholders even defended their system as more humane and less exploitative than atomistic capitalism, conveniently ignoring the role of the lash, just as apologists for Marxism conveniently ignore the role of the gulag.
Hmmm…I wonder where I’ve seen that argument before?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:55:10pm |
I see the stalkers are celebrating the one year anniversary of my Hot Air stunt.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:56:00pm |
re: #115 Killgore Trout
Instaracist declares taxpayers are Obama’s Negroes…
Hmmm…I wonder where I’ve seen that argument before?
Wow. That’s ugly.
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jaunte Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:56:17pm |
re: #116 Killgore Trout
Maybe a few socks will make suicide runs on the dead threads tonight.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:56:19pm |
re: #68 Charles
Black president against a sea of old white faces. Oh no. No racism here.
Note Obama standing with his foot on the Declaration.
This is Nazi Realism at its finest.
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:56:53pm |
re: #107 engineer dog
how soon before they start calling for a return to property tests for voting and a privileged aristocracy?
I personally know some wingnuts who advocate exactly that. It is a fairly common position among proponents of the Lost Cause of the Confederacy.
My insane Baptist deacon brother “Judas” (married to my ex, “Jezebel” aka “Jabba the Slutt”) is one of them. Among other things, he wants to abolish the public school system, forgetting of course that he and I were educated at public expense (I more than he, a lot more). Only homeschoolers and the rich could educate their children, inevitably creating a theocratic aristocracy.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:57:43pm |
re: #117 Charles
Wow. That’s ugly.
It’s very interesting to see the racism bubble up to the surface. I’m sure he doesn’t even notice it.
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 6:59:33pm |
I just looked at the bottom comments and sure enough I said ” look its all moot, the elections are coming up and we shall see what the people want one way or the other…”
and it was a bottom comment… wow free elections really bother some people.
sigh… I guess bringing this point up will place me at the bottom again, but hey others are watching :)
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jaunte Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:00:25pm |
re: #115 Killgore Trout
He seems to be ignoring the whole concept of elections, and the possibility that the side one supports can lose, and ‘better luck next time’.
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engineer cat Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:00:28pm |
apologists for Marxism
will the fucking republican party please stop fucking insisting we democrats are fucking marxists ferchrissakes already???
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:01:12pm |
re: #112 JasonA
re: #109 reine.de.tout
How many cigarettes are you down to?
I know you were asking Reine (I wanna know how she’s doing too) but want to credit you for the fact that today is Day 30 for me since I had a cig. :D
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:01:21pm |
re: #67 brookly red
ethnic cleanse much? you just can’t deal with other opinions much can you… no I guess not.
I don’t want you gone, Brookly - I want to see you use your brain. With the right going Nazi, how can you say you’re going more right every day?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:01:29pm |
re: #117 Charles
Wow. That’s ugly.
I just remembered that Instadouche didn’t see the racism of the Dale Robertson sign. As I recall he got in some trouble for that.
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researchok Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:01:55pm |
re: #88 talon_262
No, bonehead…Cato was asking why you would be going more to the right, when there have been many, many, many examples over the past couple of years of the GOP and the American right going headlong into the bad craziness (I’m not gonna list all of the subjects, because you’ve seen most, if not all, of them). In light of all of that, you’re still going to plunge headlong into that fever swamp? It doesn’t make sense for a logical person to do that, unless they’re letting irrational emotions guide their political decisions.
(For the record: I consider myself center-right, so you can’t use the “lefty” argument. Up through the 2008 elections, I voted overwhelmingly Republican for 15 years, but in light of this shit that’s been going on with the GOP over the past two years, it’d take a really exceptional (and sane) GOP candidate to get me to pull the lever for them.)
I can relate, to some degree.
Over the past few years I have moderated my own politics to a more centrist/right place.
Similarly, my own migration has been motivated in no small measure because of the crumbling foundation posts of the right. I do maintain conservatism offers much but as of late conservatism is being redefined and therein lies my problem. It is clear the GOP is devolving with much of the conservative noisemakers.
Is Sarah Palin a lightweight? Yes. Is her ideology silly? Yes. That said, she is not the devil she is made out to be. She may not have any great ideas but she does represent an attitude. She may not the great messenger of change for everyone but her message- if not her politics- hold a universal appeal. Business as usual in DC is unacceptable. Spending irresponsibly will only saddle future generations with debt. No one, right or left wants that.
Too often the focus is on the ‘enemy’. I’m not so sure that will prove to be fruitful. The TP writes no bills or passes no laws. Sarah Palin is still outside the halls of power. Attacking her and the TP does not make for good government.
I think we’d be better served spending more time focusing on good governance and demanding just that.
Critics of all stripes don’t have a leg to stand on if government does it’s job.
So far, Obama has proved he’s up to the task- and then some- as far Homeland Security, our military and fighting terrorism. He is doing an outstanding job. His commitment is focused and his critics be damned. no one stands in his way and it is clear he plays no favorites.
We need to demand the same level of competence from him as it relates to the economy and the budget. We can argue, debate, agree and disagree. It’s all about keeping focus on what is relevant.
I suspect that would serve the nation a whole lot more than criticizing an assemblage of idiots.
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Reginald Perrin Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:02:17pm |
re: #116 Killgore Trout
I see the stalkers are celebrating the one year anniversary of my Hot Air stunt.
Happy Anniversary
It took balls to pull off what you did at Hot Air. You exposed that they tolerated blatant racist comments.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:02:27pm |
Well stop lurking people!
Winston is freaked out..The Movers packed up everything today and took it away..He was so stressed I laughed my butt off today…Then at about 4pm with an empty house i called out to Winston.. Time to go little feller!
This is his first night in a hotel…It’s funny…He is freaked out..Except for all the great food he crawls out and eats from under the covers…
I keep telling him..You think this is freaky? Wait till we hit Oklahoma pal…
Poor Winston…
/Hi Lizards…Try the Veal I’ll be here all night
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:03:22pm |
re: #116 Killgore Trout
I see the stalkers are celebrating the one year anniversary of my Hot Air stunt.
It’s part of their “proofs” of how evil LGF has become.
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Four More Tears Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:04:13pm |
re: #128 allegro
I know you were asking Reine (I wanna know how she’s doing too) but want to credit you for the fact that today is Day 30 for me since I had a cig. :D
I will accept said credit! I think I hit 6 weeks on Sunday. There really isn’t any more temptation to have a cig. Time to start lowering my dosage, I think.
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engineer cat Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:04:27pm |
re: #121 Shiplord Kirel
I personally know some wingnuts who advocate exactly that. It is a fairly common position among proponents of the Lost Cause of the Confederacy.
My insane Baptist deacon brother “Judas” (married to my ex, “Jezebel” aka “Jabba the Slutt”) is one of them. Among other things, he wants to abolish the public school system, forgetting of course that he and I were educated at public expense (I more than he, a lot more). Only homeschoolers and the rich could educate their children, inevitably creating a theocratic aristocracy.
holy shit
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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:04:38pm |
re: #132 Reginald Perrin
I’m still not proud of it but it happened. It was ugly and pointless. They still call the First lady a wookie and a Klingon on Hot Air (they were doing it earlier this week). My stunt made no difference.
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brookly red Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:04:51pm |
re: #129 Cato the Elder
I don’t want you gone, Brookly - I want to see you use your brain. With the right going Nazi, how can you say you’re going more right every day?
easy dude… I work for a living. Well when there is any work…
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Cardio (formerly JRCMYP) Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:05:07pm |
re: #20 darthstar
I can’t stand Palin. But that was fucking disgusting.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:05:15pm |
re: #116 Killgore Trout
I see the stalkers are celebrating the one year anniversary of my Hot Air stunt.
re: #132 Reginald Perrin
Happy Anniversary
It took balls to pull off what you did at Hot Air. You exposed that they tolerated blatant racist comments.
Could not agree more.
And Hot Air still tolerates those comments, but so does the entire right wing blogosphere.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:05:59pm |
re: #131 researchok
Up for thinking it through, but there is still something in an ounce of prevention.
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Cardio (formerly JRCMYP) Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:06:10pm |
re: #25 darthstar
WTF dude? Give the sexist snark a rest. Please.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:06:30pm |
re: #137 Killgore Trout
You made some people aware of it. Sometimes that’s the only reward you get.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:07:54pm |
re: #138 brookly red
easy dude… I work for a living. Well when there is any work…
What is “I work for a living” supposed to mean? You think I got unemployed because I didn’t?
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Cardio (formerly JRCMYP) Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:08:55pm |
re: #39 engineer dog
Train wreck?
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:09:11pm |
re: #139 JRCMYP
I can’t stand Palin. But that was fucking disgusting.
The facts about her profession often are.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:09:18pm |
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researchok Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:09:59pm |
re: #141 Decatur Deb
Up for thinking it through, but there is still something in an ounce of prevention.
Sure. I agree whole heatedly.
It’s just that sometimes, the prevention weighs in at over the proverbial pound.
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cliffster Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:10:22pm |
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:10:24pm |
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blueraven Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:10:32pm |
re: #125 brookly red
I just looked at the bottom comments and sure enough I said ” look its all moot, the elections are coming up and we shall see what the people want one way or the other…”
and it was a bottom comment… wow free elections really bother some people.
sigh… I guess bringing this point up will place me at the bottom again, but hey others are watching :)
Must have been a slow night. You must try harder!/
Seriously, why must you call people names all the time? You can dish it but then you whine when the dings come your way.
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Cardio (formerly JRCMYP) Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:11:21pm |
re: #55 brookly red
Why is BR getting down dinged?
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:11:38pm |
re: #127 engineer dog
apologists for Marxism
will the fucking republican party please stop fucking insisting we democrats are fucking marxists ferchrissakes already???
You would think they would have more compassion, what with the true free-roaming Marxist virtually extinct. Even now, the mangy, bedraggled survivors huddle in such limited preserves as Berkeley and Madison, with the population below breeding minimums and a constant influx of capitalist pollution via air wave pollution and the internet. We must introduce legislation to bring them under the protection of the Endangered Species Act, so future generations may learn and observe and poke them with sticks.
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Four More Tears Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:12:21pm |
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:12:28pm |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:12:44pm |
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cliffster Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:13:39pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:14:48pm |
re: #149 cliffster
liberals are what they are..
That wasn’t liberalism, that was darthstar being an ass. He’s better than that, I told him so myself.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:15:15pm |
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researchok Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:15:32pm |
re: #141 Decatur Deb
Up for thinking it through, but there is still something in an ounce of prevention.
As far as I am concerned, the best thing about LGF lies in how the fog is dissipated.
I think most people fall for and identify with ideological extremes is because they can’t see daylight.
I don’t think most TP’ers are racists or bigots any more than I believe the hard left wants to bring about a socialist nanny state, with approved speech only. Once daylight burns through the fog I believe most people are capable of coming to terms with varying opinions.
Burn the fog and nature will takes its; course. We will fiond out we don’t have to kill each other.
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cliffster Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:16:12pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:16:54pm |
re: #41 brookly red
Maybe I did… I mean I am going more to the right every day (and I thank some posters here) but I don’t consider Palin a serious point of discussion. The only place she shows up is in the fear of the left… wtf?
You’re really hitting it out of the park there, sport
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:20:20pm |
re: #106 negativ
Every time I say almost exactly this same thing about Paris Hilton, they taser me and adjust my meds.
She was in REPO, I gotta give her that :D
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:20:23pm |
re: #160 researchok
As far as I am concerned, the best thing about LGF lies in how the fog is dissipated.
I think most people fall for and identify with ideological extremes is because they can’t see daylight.
I don’t think most TP’ers are racists or bigots any more than I believe the hard left wants to bring about a socialist nanny state, with approved speech only. Once daylight burns through the fog I believe most people are capable of coming to terms with varying opinions.
Burn the fog and nature will takes its; course. We will fiond out we don’t have to kill each other.
I dismissed SP as a passing fancy for several months. Now I see her as a small but real threat to the country. A lot of smart money (69%) on Intrade has her declaring for the presidency within 16 months.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:21:41pm |
re: #164 Decatur Deb
dismissed SP as a passing fancy for several months. Now I see her as a small but real threat to the country. A lot of smart money (69%) on Intrade has her declaring for the presidency within 16 months.
When does it see her quitting?
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:22:22pm |
re: #27 Dark_Falcon
That was a rotten thing to say. Making that kind of crass sexual shot is just plain wrong. You’re better than that, darthstar.
Maybe, but sometimes you call it as you see it.
She has become another AEI political whore. She hasn’t reached Romney’s level of prostitution…she simply isn’t smart enough, nor does she possess enough self awareness…but she she is a whore nonetheless.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:22:47pm |
re: #127 engineer dog
apologists for Marxism
will the fucking republican party please stop fucking insisting we democrats are fucking marxists ferchrissakes already???
I think a Democrat who calls himself a bearded Marxist doesn’t help..
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Reginald Perrin Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:22:52pm |
re: #137 Killgore Trout
I’m still not proud of it but it happened. It was ugly and pointless. They still call the First lady a wookie and a Klingon on Hot Air (they were doing it earlier this week). My stunt made no difference.
Maybe someday when common sense returns to politics, you will be seen as one of the first to expose racism on right wing blogs.
BTW, the reason I said it took balls was because you posted under your
LGF name. You weren’t chicken shit like the stalkers who are afraid to use their blogmocracy names at their site stalking Charles 24/7. You laid your reputation on the line, I admire a man of principle.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:22:54pm |
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:22:59pm |
Dear BP
Please stop playing the same commercial over and over ever 15 minutes 24/7..
I beg you…I’m sick about hearing about it over and over..The same Ad…over and over..Is that all you got? Cause Nike’s ad people or something..The 10 most lamest ad campaigns of all time…You Suck BP on so many levels
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:23:25pm |
Has anyone here but me ever actually read Marx?
Because, you know, he is highly regarded in capitalist circles as the single greatest authority on their system, which is otherwise in this country misunderstood as a synonym for Mom’s apple pie.
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:23:39pm |
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freetoken Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:24:20pm |
re: #169 Reginald Perrin
Maybe someday when common sense returns to politics, …
Places like Hot Air isn’t really about politics is the governance sense, but is rather a ditch into which the small minded and the even smaller-hearted fall.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:24:39pm |
re: #171 HoosierHoops
At least on the coast we get a variety of ads.
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freetoken Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:25:06pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:25:12pm |
re: #171 HoosierHoops
Dear BP
Please stop playing the same commercial over and over ever 15 minutes 24/7..
I beg you…I’m sick about hearing about it over and over..The same Ad…over and over..Is that all you got? Cause Nike’s ad people or something..The 10 most lamest ad campaigns of all time…You Suck BP on so many levels
Amen brother. It’s gotten so bad that I instantly change the channel when those commercials pop on.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:25:33pm |
re: #168 NJDhockeyfan
I think a Democrat who calls himself a bearded Marxist doesn’t help..
Did you bother to actually read the article?
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cliffster Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:25:37pm |
re: #172 Cato the Elder
Has anyone here but me ever actually read Marx?
Because, you know, he is highly regarded in capitalist circles as the single greatest authority on their system, which is otherwise in this country misunderstood as a synonym for Mom’s apple pie.
also, the socioeconomic bit is only part of his gig
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:25:42pm |
re: #168 NJDhockeyfan
I think a Democrat who calls himself a bearded Marxist doesn’t help..
Well, that was 25 years ago. Are you the same person you were back in 1985? I know I’m not. (And thank goodness for that.)
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:26:12pm |
re: #41 brookly red
Maybe I did… I mean I am going more to the right every day (and I thank some posters here) but I don’t consider Palin a serious point of discussion. The only place she shows up is in the fear of the left… wtf?
Maybe because given the right circumstances, she can do horribly severe harm to this country is she gets into higher office.
Like 3rd world war type of harm. She has the kind of populist idiocy mixed with religious backing that you see in an Oliver Cromwell. She also has the ambition and the ego, along with the willingness to pursue political and personal vendettas and a blatant authoritarian streak.
If you are not afraid, than you are not paying attention.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:26:18pm |
re: #172 Cato the Elder
Has anyone here but me ever actually read Marx?
Because, you know, he is highly regarded in capitalist circles as the single greatest authority on their system, which is otherwise in this country misunderstood as a synonym for Mom’s apple pie.
When I sent my first daughter off to college, I put a 100 dollar bill for emergencies in the endpapers of Das Kapital. I liked the pun, and I knew no one would disturb it on her shelf.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:26:27pm |
re: #180 Dark_Falcon
Well, that was 25 years ago. Are you the same person you were back in 1985? I know I’m not. (And thank goodness for that.)
I’m still an asshole. Does that count?
/
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researchok Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:26:30pm |
re: #164 Decatur Deb
I dismissed SP as a passing fancy for several months. Now I see her as a small but real threat to the country. A lot of smart money (69%) on Intrade has her declaring for the presidency within 16 months.
You may be right.
Still as long as the attacks on her remain personal she will remain a popular figure.
Like I said, she’s a lightweight but her message strikes a chord. Challenge her on her ideology and she melts. Make it personal and a lot of people will circle the wagons.
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cliffster Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:26:49pm |
re: #171 HoosierHoops
Dear BP
Please stop playing the same commercial over and over ever 15 minutes 24/7..
I beg you…I’m sick about hearing about it over and over..The same Ad…over and over..Is that all you got? Cause Nike’s ad people or something..The 10 most lamest ad campaigns of all time…You Suck BP on so many levels
nah, man, they mix it up. There’s one with a white dude, one with a black dude. Oh, and one with a cajun. The accent almost doesn’t seem fake.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:29:31pm |
re: #180 Dark_Falcon
Well, that was 25 years ago. Are you the same person you were back in 1985? I know I’m not. (And thank goodness for that.)
No, I grew up. Has Coons commented on it since it was reported? I’m curious to see if he has grown up.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:29:56pm |
re: #184 researchok
By “personal” do you mean I can’t say her head would look good on a pike?
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:30:31pm |
re: #184 researchok
You may be right.
Still as long as the attacks on her remain personal she will remain a popular figure.
Like I said, she’s a lightweight but her message strikes a chord. Challenge her on her ideology and she melts. Make it personal and a lot of people will circle the wagons.
Any attack on any aspect of her is taken personally by her cult. That is why it is called identity politics. O’Donnell has already declared any questions about her past statements and positions will amount to the same thing: an attack on the Good Americans who are propelling her to victory.
George Washington is likely cursing at the moment outside of St Peter’s earshot.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:30:32pm |
re: #186 NJDhockeyfan
No, I grew up. Has Coons commented on it since it was reported? I’m curious to see if he has grown up.
Again, did you bother to actually read the article?
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:30:52pm |
re: #187 Cato the Elder
By “personal” do you mean I can’t say her head would look good on a pike?
We arguing politics or aesthetics?
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:31:44pm |
re: #183 Cannadian Club Akbar
I’m still an asshole. Does that count?
/
So you’re the one who Dennis Leary wrote that song about!
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Linden Arden Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:31:53pm |
Bill Maher is showing a clip on ‘Real Time’ where Christine O’Donnell twice says she “dabbled in witchcraft”.
They are working her over.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:32:30pm |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:32:55pm |
Today’s capitalists are the sincerest Marxists of all.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:33:05pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:33:32pm |
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:33:33pm |
Murkowski says” Wasington needs to see one Alaskan woman who won’t quit.” Crowd goes ballistic. Tells Miller gloves are off.
From mudflats twitter
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reine.de.tout Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:33:48pm |
re: #112 JasonA
How many cigarettes are you down to?
Lurking, not answering!
I actually have reduced some - I was smoking 2 packs a day, now one.
So I guess that’s progress!
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:33:57pm |
re: #192 Linden Arden
Bill Maher is showing a clip on ‘Real Time’ where Christine O’Donnell twice says she “dabbled in witchcraft”.
They are working her over.
Now she dabbles in Jesus.
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blueraven Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:34:01pm |
re: #186 NJDhockeyfan
No, I grew up. Has Coons commented on it since it was reported? I’m curious to see if he has grown up.
Did you actually read the article?
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:34:36pm |
re: #197 Stanley Sea
Murkowski says” Wasington needs to see one Alaskan woman who won’t quit.” Crowd goes ballistic. Tells Miller gloves are off.
From mudflats twitter
re: #192 Linden Arden
Bill Maher is showing a clip on ‘Real Time’ where Christine O’Donnell twice says she “dabbled in witchcraft”.
They are working her over.
Someone is protecting fools and Democrats.
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Four More Tears Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:34:38pm |
re: #198 reine.de.tout
Lurking, not answering!
I actually have reduced some - I was smoking 2 packs a day, now one.
So I guess that’s progress!
It is!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:34:39pm |
re: #197 Stanley Sea
Murkowski says” Wasington needs to see one Alaskan woman who won’t quit.” Crowd goes ballistic. Tells Miller gloves are off.
From mudflats twitter
I hope she promises a King Crab in every pot.
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cliffster Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:34:41pm |
Crist is an user of inappropriate funds
or a Funder of inappropriate uses
or an Inappropriate user of funds.
Whatever, I think that election is pretty well wrapped up
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:34:44pm |
re: #192 Linden Arden
Bill Maher is showing a clip on ‘Real Time’ where Christine O’Donnell twice says she “dabbled in witchcraft”.
They are working her over.
Maybe, but it may well backfire…especially against a pretty female candidate with a guileless smile.
That is why Tina Fey was so deadly effective against Palin, since she could do and say things that no male could ever do in this culture.
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Walking Spanish Down the Hall Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:34:51pm |
re: #198 reine.de.tout
Lurking, not answering!
I actually have reduced some - I was smoking 2 packs a day, now one.
So I guess that’s progress!
Tow packs a day? reine!
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Four More Tears Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:34:54pm |
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:35:02pm |
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:35:12pm |
re: #197 Stanley Sea
Murkowski says” Wasington needs to see one Alaskan woman who won’t quit.” Crowd goes ballistic. Tells Miller gloves are off.
From mudflats twitter
I’m in for ten bucks to her campaign.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:35:50pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:35:51pm |
re: #204 cliffster
Crist is an user of inappropriate funds
or a Funder of inappropriate uses
or an Inappropriate user of funds.
Whatever, I think that election is pretty well wrapped up
Bingo.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:35:52pm |
re: #175 Cannadian Club Akbar
At least on the coast we get a variety of ads.
We get the same one over and effen over on every channel…The worst ad campaign of all time…Don’t tell me you are Iris and grew up in the gulf coast 600,000 times…Tell me a dozen times and go do something with that cash productive for people and show results…Do you really effen think you can brainwash my ass in 2010? I kindof felt sorry for BP in the beginning..Shit Happens..Hell we sunk a Nuclear Submarine at MINSY once..Accidents do happen. It’s a fact of life and we overcome them ( Using technology not prayer).But don’t you dare try to shove Madison Avenue down my throat
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:36:05pm |
re: #191 NJDhockeyfan
So you’re the one who Dennis Leary wrote that song about!
No, but a Stalker was the one Fred “August” Campbell wrote this song about:
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:37:36pm |
re: #205 celticdragon
That is why Tina Fey was so deadly effective against Palin, since she could do and say things that no male could ever do in this culture.
Well, that and Tina Fey really didn’t have to try that hard, since Caribou Barbie is already a parody of herself. The Couric interview skit used Sarah’s own words against her.
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:38:11pm |
re: #197 Stanley Sea
Murkowski says” Wasington needs to see one Alaskan woman who won’t quit.” Crowd goes ballistic. Tells Miller gloves are off.
From mudflats twitter
Bring on the popcorn! God I hope this puts Alaska in the I column, if not the D.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:38:28pm |
re: #205 celticdragon
Maybe, but it may well backfire…especially against a pretty female candidate with a guileless smile.
That is why Tina Fey was so deadly effective against Palin, since she could do and say things that no male could ever do in this culture.
Well, Chris Wallace has promised to ask her about her past in specific this Sunday. I hope he does that. If he asks her non-softballs, I think she’ll be in trouble.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:38:30pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:38:57pm |
re: #198 reine.de.tout
Lurking, not answering!
I actually have reduced some - I was smoking 2 packs a day, now one.
So I guess that’s progress!
I smoked 1-2 packs a day for 17 years. Then I quit last spring. I chewed gum whenever I wanted a cigarette. I didn’t have any problems. Then in June I has a seizure. When I woke up 4 days later all I wanted was a cig. Now I’m smoking again but not as much as I used to. I will quit again soon.
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:39:07pm |
re: #217 Dark_Falcon
Well, Chris Wallace has promised to ask her about her past in specific this Sunday. I hope he does that. If he asks her non-softballs, I think she’ll be in trouble.
Pfft. He’s interviewing her on Fox. If he asks anything EXCEPT softballs, he’ll get fired.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:39:10pm |
re: #213 HoosierHoops
Don’t get me wrong. I hate them and the whole situation.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:39:36pm |
re: #216 darthstar
Bring on the popcorn! God I hope this puts Alaska in the I column, if not the D.
Murkowski will just caucus with the GOP and rejoin them in a month or two. She’s not an independent.
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:40:17pm |
re: #222 Dark_Falcon
Murkowski will just caucus with the GOP and rejoin them in a month or two. She’s not an independent.
Meh…thanks for pissing in my porridge. Maybe this will give McAdams a shot at winning then.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:40:35pm |
re: #220 Lidane
Pfft. He’s interviewing her on Fox. If he asks anything EXCEPT softballs, he’ll get fired.
Yes. Because Fox is thhe only News organization to throw softballs.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:40:35pm |
re: #219 NJDhockeyfan
I hope you at least spring for Spirits.
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:40:39pm |
re: #215 Lidane
Well, that and Tina Fey really didn’t have to try that hard, since Caribou Barbie is already a parody of herself. The Couric interview skit used Sarah’s own words against her.
Yep. But if a guy tried to point it out…he is a bully. It looks bad. That is why I think any male GOP candidates for Pres are praying that one of the 2nd tier candidates goes kamikaze to take her out so that they don’t have to…or that Claire McCaskill comes in to settle scores with her.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:40:55pm |
re: #213 HoosierHoops
We get the same one over and effen over on every channel…
I feel your pain. At least it isn’t the one I see over and over… KY fantabulous cum gel for women… or whatever that awful irritant is.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:42:17pm |
re: #227 allegro
I feel your pain. At least it isn’t the one I see over and over… KY fantabulous cum gel for women… or whatever that awful irritant is.
I use ribbed condoms and put them on inside out. I’m selfish.
//
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:43:11pm |
re: #220 Lidane
Pfft. He’s interviewing her on Fox. If he asks anything EXCEPT softballs, he’ll get fired.
I’m not so sure. The questions are legit and Fox News really does have to make clear at some point that they can’t give unlimited free passes. Hardball with O’Donnell would cause screams in the short term, but the wingnuts would all have come back by election night.
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:43:17pm |
re: #217 Dark_Falcon
Well, Chris Wallace has promised to ask her about her past in specific this Sunday. I hope he does that. If he asks her non-softballs, I think she’ll be in trouble.
O’Donnell has a lot more media training and exposure than Palin did…and Wallace isn’t going to try to score a kill on her. She will be allowed to frame it just the way she wants, and her followers will adore her.
The voters who are likely hostile to her will not be watching Chris Wallace in the first place, probably.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:43:59pm |
re: #221 Cannadian Club Akbar
Don’t get me wrong. I hate them and the whole situation.
They could have not handled the crisis any worse.
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Pickles Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:44:05pm |
re: #171 HoosierHoops
Dear BP
Please stop playing the same commercial over and over ever 15 minutes 24/7..
I beg you…I’m sick about hearing about it over and over..The same Ad…over and over..Is that all you got? Cause Nike’s ad people or something..The 10 most lamest ad campaigns of all time…You Suck BP on so many levels
I can’t stand it either. and that insipid song they play on it.
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:44:11pm |
re: #224 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yes. Because Fox is thhe only News organization to throw softballs.
Oh, all of them throw softballs. It’s just that expecting a hard-hitting interview against a Republican on Fox is like expecting Christopher Hitchens to have a deathbed conversion. Won’t happen. Ever.
Personally, I want O’Donnell to go on Rachel Maddow’s show. That would be interesting.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:44:34pm |
re: #223 darthstar
Meh…thanks for pissing in my porridge. Maybe this will give McAdams a shot at winning then.
Anyone but crazy Joe Miller.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:44:39pm |
re: #217 Dark_Falcon
Well, Chris Wallace has promised to ask her about her past in specific this Sunday. I hope he does that. If he asks her non-softballs, I think she’ll be in trouble.
He’s pretty good. He’s no Larry King.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:45:27pm |
re: #233 Lidane
Personally, I want O’Donnell to go on Rachel Maddow’s show. That would be interesting.
Oh, that I would PAY to see.
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researchok Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:45:28pm |
A few years back Joe Lieberman was struggling for his political life. He was behind Ned Lamont in the polls and went on to lose the CT Democrat primary.. The pundits all predicted Lamont, who had spent a fortune of his own money had finished Lieberman off.
Lamont’s campaign went into overdrive when Lieberman announced he would run as an independent. Jane Hamsher (of Firedog Lake fame) went after Lieberman like a rabid dog, attacking him personally (at least one referring to him as a ‘pig”).
What was once a campaign about politics became a campaign about personalities.
Long story short, Lieberman won and left Lamont in the dust. People were disgusted. They were ready to let Lieberman go, but they weren’t quite ready to kick him to the curb.
Any way you slice it, Jane Hamsher was personally responsible for Joe Lieberman’s reelection.
As an aside, Hamsher also campaigned to have Haddassah Lieberman fired from the Susan Koman Foundation because she didn’t like the way her husband voted on some bills. Ms Lieberman had worked tirelessly for the Susan B Koman Foundation for years.
The foundation told Hamsher to piss off.
When you make politics personal, it can come back and blow up in your face.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:45:41pm |
All political wanna be’s need to be interviewed by Jack Bauer.
/
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:46:32pm |
re: #225 Cato the Elder
I hope you at least spring for Spirits.
I know someone who makes some great liquid corn spirits.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:46:34pm |
re: #233 Lidane
Oh, all of them throw softballs. It’s just that expecting a hard-hitting interview against a Republican on Fox is like expecting Christopher Hitchens to have a deathbed conversion. Won’t happen. Ever.
Personally, I want O’Donnell to go on Rachel Maddow’s show. That would be interesting.
No way in hell that’s going to happen. I’m still waiting for Sister Sarah to go on anyone other than Fox. Meet the Press, Face the Nation or STFU.
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:46:39pm |
re: #229 Dark_Falcon
I’m not so sure. The questions are legit and Fox News really does have to make clear at some point that they can’t give unlimited free passes. Hardball with O’Donnell would cause screams in the short term, but the wingnuts would all have come back by election night.
Since when?
Palin made it quite plain yesterday that conservative candidates should embargo every other news outlet and only talk to Fox from now on…and she works for them!
It isn’t like they are hiding anything now. Fox is the full time propaganda wing of the extreme right wing section of the GOP…and they are not coy about that.
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cliffster Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:46:51pm |
Attention dogs: grrrr, woof… bark
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AlexRogan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:47:52pm |
re: #228 Cannadian Club Akbar
I use ribbed condoms and put them on inside out. I’m selfish.
//
Ribbed for your pleasure, huh? ;-P
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reine.de.tout Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:47:58pm |
Sheesh.
I can’t wait for this Scrabble game to be over.
The high scorer has 489.
Then 363, then 354.
Then there’s me, at 200.
Thank goodness it’s almost over and done with.
They owe me, I think, for all the points I didn’t score that ended up in their scores. Yeah, that’s it.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:48:15pm |
re: #233 Lidane
Oh, all of them throw softballs. It’s just that expecting a hard-hitting interview against a Republican on Fox is like expecting Christopher Hitchens to have a deathbed conversion. Won’t happen. Ever.
Personally, I want O’Donnell to go on Rachel Maddow’s show. That would be interesting.
He doesn’t have to be hard hitting. All he has to do is ask the questions straight. If she wants to put in an honest explanation, she may benefit from that. But if she just refuses to answer, she’ll look like a fool. Again, going after her isn’t needed. Just play it straight. Put the ball over the plate, just make it a regulation baseball. If she can’t hit it, she can’t win anyways.
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:48:20pm |
re: #237 researchok
And sometimes you blow up a lot of other people as well. The Tea Party is nothing if not highly personal identity politics.
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cliffster Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:48:35pm |
re: #241 celticdragon
Since when?
Palin made it quite plain yesterday that conservative candidates should embargo every other news outlet and only talk to Fox from now on…and she works for them!
It isn’t like they are hiding anything now. Fox is the full time propaganda wing of the extreme right wing section of the GOP…and they are not coy about that.
fox is going to secede from the union
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:48:44pm |
re: #237 researchok
What was once a campaign about politics became a campaign about personalities.
Long story short, Lieberman won and left Lamont in the dust. People were disgusted. They were ready to let Lieberman go, but they weren’t quite ready to kick him to the curb.
Any way you slice it, Jane Hamsher was personally responsible for Joe Lieberman’s reelection.
Dude, Lieberman was elected by Republicans. The Republican party threw in a loser to see to it.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:49:25pm |
re: #244 reine.de.tout
Sheesh.
I can’t wait for this Scrabble game to be over.The high scorer has 489.
Then 363, then 354.
Then there’s me, at 200.
Thank goodness it’s almost over and done with.
They owe me, I think, for all the points I didn’t score that ended up in their scores. Yeah, that’s it.
Louisiana Scrabble is not impressive. Half the words end in ‘X’.
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researchok Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:49:57pm |
re: #249 allegro
Dude, Lieberman was elected by Republicans. The Republican party threw in a loser to see to it.
The polls had Lamont ahead.
His lead shrank over time.
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:50:21pm |
re: #240 Stanley Sea
No way in hell that’s going to happen. I’m still waiting for Sister Sarah to go on anyone other than Fox. Meet the Press, Face the Nation or STFU.
She will never talk to any reporter or msm outlet outside of Fox again after Couric gently eviscerated her. She will run her campaign on maximizing the Fox news vote. According to her, that is where you reach out to all the real Americans anyway.
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cliffster Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:50:25pm |
re: #244 reine.de.tout
I was beating a friend of mine by like 150 with not that many letters to go, when he played “jeez” on a triple. Went downhill from there.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:51:03pm |
re: #251 researchok
The polls had Lamont ahead.
His lead shrank over time.
The polls had Crist ahead.
Now he is down by double digits.
(again, I hate polls)
| 255 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:51:21pm |
Let them die in the street, penniless! Oh, you had treatable cancer? Sorry jack, not any more! You say all you needed were meds? Pre-existing condition, sluggo! Our New Improved Republican Jesus says fuck off!
Why is there so little Christian about the views and behavior of purportedly Christian politicians? Why do these people just seem to abhor compassion in any way?
Every day it seems, the Republican party becomes dumber, more paranoid, more vicious, more alien, and more beholden to freaks, every day it recedes a little more in the moral distance
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:51:32pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:51:36pm |
re: #248 cliffster
fox is going to secede from the union
Some people in New Hampshire tried that a few years ago. They didn’t make it.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:51:39pm |
re: #241 celticdragon
Since when?
Palin made it quite plain yesterday that conservative candidates should embargo every other news outlet and only talk to Fox from now on…and she works for them!
It isn’t like they are hiding anything now. Fox is the full time propaganda wing of the extreme right wing section of the GOP…and they are not coy about that.
O’Donnell isn’t Angle or Paul: She’s behind and not gaining ground. An honest interview is what she badly needs. Chris Wallace can help her by giving her an honest hearing. If she just continues to refuse to answer questions, she’s toast.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:52:20pm |
re: #254 Cannadian Club Akbar
The polls had Crist ahead.
Now he is down by double digits.
(again, I hate polls)
Wait until Rubio’s Santeria tape surfaces.
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researchok Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:52:34pm |
re: #247 celticdragon
And sometimes you blow up a lot of other people as well. The Tea Party is nothing if not highly personal identity politics.
That’s my point. As long as it remains personal, people will circle the wagons.
Make it about issues and people put it in perspective.
See my 131 and 164
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:52:48pm |
re: #255 WindUpBird
Let them die in the street, penniless! Oh, you had treatable cancer? Sorry jack, not any more! You say all you needed were meds? Pre-existing condition, sluggo! Our New Improved Republican Jesus says fuck off!
Why is there so little Christian about the views and behavior of purportedly Christian politicians? Why do these people just seem to abhor compassion in any way?
Every day it seems, the Republican party becomes dumber, more paranoid, more vicious, more alien, and more beholden to freaks, every day it recedes a little more in the moral distance
I still cannot believe what Huckabee said.
What passes for Christian though today from these people has nothing to do with the Christ I read about in my NIV Bible.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:53:00pm |
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:53:24pm |
re: #258 Dark_Falcon
O’Donnell isn’t Angle or Paul: She’s behind and not gaining ground. An honest interview is what she badly needs. Chris Wallace can help her by giving her an honest hearing. If she just continues to refuse to answer questions, she’s toast.
I’m not holding my breath, but we will see.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:53:53pm |
re: #261 celticdragon
I still cannot believe what Huckabee said.
What passes for Christian though today from these people has nothing to do with the Christ I read about in my NIV Bible.
It makes it so easy to vote Democrat! When they say such nakedly ridiculous and insane things, it makes my decision effortless
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:54:08pm |
re: #237 researchok
A few years back Joe Lieberman was struggling for his political life. He was behind Ned Lamont in the polls and went on to lose the CT Democrat primary.. The pundits all predicted Lamont, who had spent a fortune of his own money had finished Lieberman off.
Lamont’s campaign went into overdrive when Lieberman announced he would run as an independent. Jane Hamsher (of Firedog Lake fame) went after Lieberman like a rabid dog, attacking him personally (at least one referring to him as a ‘pig”).
What was once a campaign about politics became a campaign about personalities.
Long story short, Lieberman won and left Lamont in the dust. People were disgusted. They were ready to let Lieberman go, but they weren’t quite ready to kick him to the curb.
Any way you slice it, Jane Hamsher was personally responsible for Joe Lieberman’s reelection.
As an aside, Hamsher also campaigned to have Haddassah Lieberman fired from the Susan Koman Foundation because she didn’t like the way her husband voted on some bills. Ms Lieberman had worked tirelessly for the Susan B Koman Foundation for years.
The foundation told Hamsher to piss off.
When you make politics personal, it can come back and blow up in your face.
*cough* I was blogging at Firedoglake during that time…You have completely make a complex issue a simplistic talking point…And you fucking get me wrong..I left there after the black face thing….But the issues were complex..I was there…
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:54:08pm |
re: #245 Cato the Elder
The jury is still out on Hitchens.
I doubt that. He’s been pretty upfront in his feelings about both religion and God. A deathbed conversion is highly unlikely.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:54:17pm |
re: #255 WindUpBird
According to Republican Presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee, that’s exactly right. People with pre-existing conditions, he explains are like houses that have already burned down.
OMFG. There are no other words.
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:54:17pm |
re: #260 researchok
That’s my point. As long as it remains personal, people will circle the wagons.
Make it about issues and people put it in perspective.
See my 131 and 164
Yep.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:54:50pm |
re: #255 WindUpBird
I guess his own personal Jesus doesn’t go in for healing the sick, either.
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freetoken Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:54:53pm |
In local news, the creationists are having an open house:
Santee creationists to host special ‘Museum Day’
The Creation and Earth History Museum in Santee, one of the more unusual institutions in San Diego County, is inviting the public to a day of speeches and show-and-tells.
What organizers are calling a special Museum Day is scheduled for Saturday, Sept. 25, from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. The museum is dedicated to creationism, which supports the Bible’s account of how God created the Earth.
The institution is at 10946 Woodside Avenue, near the Santee Drive-In.
Among the speeches planned for the free event: “Catastrophic Plate Tectonics: the Mechanism Behind the Genesis Flood” and “Thousands not Billions: Radioisotope Evidence for a Young Earth.” A live reptile demonstration is also scheduled, along with a show-and-tell called “Dinosaurs, Rocks: Fact & Fiction.”
The museum teaches that the Earth was created by God in six days, some 6,000 to 10,000 years ago. Creationists believe the scientific evidence for Darwinian evolution is weak.
The museum is part of the Institute for Creation Research, which was founded in 1970. Both have been located in a Santee office park since the mid-1980s.
The ICR used to be headquartered here in San Diego county, before they moved to Texastan. They left behind a remnant, though.
I’ve never been to the “museum”, however years ago I used to have discussions with some of their more ardent supporters.
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celticdragon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:56:17pm |
re: #264 WindUpBird
It makes it so easy to vote Democrat! When they say such nakedly ridiculous and insane things, it makes my decision effortless
I couldn’t agree more. It took a hell of a lot to alienate me from the GOP and I still have regrets and guilt from time to time when I vote for a Dem…but fucked up stuff like what was said today takes the guilt away!
cha cha cha…
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:56:34pm |
re: #265 HoosierHoops
*cough* I was blogging at Firedoglake during that time…You have completely make a complex issue a simplistic talking point…And Don’t you fucking get me wrong..I left there after the black face thing…But the issues were complex..I was there…
Jeez hoopster..Calm down LOL
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:57:20pm |
| 275 |
Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:57:58pm |
Gotta go to bed. This is starting to sound like an episode of “In Search Of…”. ‘Nite, all.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:58:51pm |
re: #274 Cannadian Club Akbar
HIT THE MINI BAR!!!
I AM! What else is there to do in a hotel?
(Don’t answer that)
/I’ll be here all night!!
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researchok Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:59:42pm |
re: #265 HoosierHoops
*cough* I was blogging at Firedoglake during that time…You have completely make a complex issue a simplistic talking point…And you fucking get me wrong..I left there after the black face thing…But the issues were complex..I was there…
You are right- I have reduced it and it was a complex story.
That said, my points are accurate. The campaign migrated from a focus on politics to the personal excoriation of Lieberman.
She tried to do the same thing years later, to Lieberman’s wife.
I don’t have to tell you how outraged the people of CT were.
My point was that if the attacks on Palin remain personal, her supporters- and even those only mildly disposed to her message out DC governance- will circle the wagons.
See my 131 and 164
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 7:59:58pm |
re: #276 HoosierHoops
I AM! What else is there to do in a hotel?
(Don’t answer that)
/I’ll be here all night!!
When I stayed in LA the yellow pages had 20 pages for Escort Services. So I hear.
/
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reine.de.tout Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:00:21pm |
re: #253 cliffster
I was beating a friend of mine by like 150 with not that many letters to go, when he played “jeez” on a triple. Went downhill from there.
LOL.
This is online, and we play ‘Super Scrabble”, larger board, more letters and quad word squares!
And sometimes, if you play all 7 letters, you manage to hit 2 double-word squares, and boy, that really racks up the points.
But no such luck for me in this game.
Argh. Right now I’m just playing to block people.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:01:23pm |
re: #263 celticdragon
I’m not holding my breath, but we will see.
Yes, we will. I hope Wallace is allowed to be Wallace. Honest will be hard on O’Donnell, but sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind.
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:01:58pm |
re: #273 Cato the Elder
Pain and terror can change things.
So can morphine and high quality booze.
I still don’t see it happening.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:02:05pm |
re: #265 HoosierHoops
*cough* I was blogging at Firedoglake during that time…You have completely make a complex issue a simplistic talking point…And you fucking get me wrong..I left there after the black face thing…But the issues were complex..I was there…
Oh, this is intriguing. Under what name there were you blogging? (understanding if you don’t wanna say) The black face thing was an entirely uncalled for and offensive gaff on Jane’s part but some amazing work has been done by very talented bloggers there.
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cliffster Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:02:41pm |
what’s up with this chick that splashed acid on her own face? that shit’s all kinds of fucked up.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:03:37pm |
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:03:54pm |
re: #277 researchok
You are right- I have reduced it and it was a complex story.
That said, my points are accurate. The campaign migrated from a focus on politics to the personal excoriation of Lieberman.
She tried to do the same thing years later, to Lieberman’s wife.
I don’t have to tell you how outraged the people of CT were.
My point was that if the attacks on Palin remain personal, her supporters- and even those only mildly disposed to her message out DC governance- will circle the wagons.
See my 131 and 164
Crazy times…I first blogged for the first time after seeing the Sundance Movie Blog Wars 2 about Firedoglake…I lost my blogging cherry to Jane’s site…I love em all but they are just too left for me.. I’m a moderate…
The black face thing really bothered me
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cliffster Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:04:13pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:04:49pm |
re: #267 allegro
OMFG. There are no other words.
If this is how insane they are now? Just nakedly, openly completely bonkers?
Imagine 2012!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:04:51pm |
re: #283 cliffster
what’s up with this chick that splashed acid on her own face? that shit’s all kinds of fucked up.
She is trying to bring people to Jesus. Let me see if I can find a link.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:05:18pm |
re: #288 Cannadian Club Akbar
She is trying to bring people to Jesus. Let me see if I can find a link.
Pinhead would be proud
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:06:14pm |
re: #282 allegro
Oh, this is intriguing. Under what name there were you blogging? (understanding if you don’t wanna say) The black face thing was an entirely uncalled for and offensive gaff on Jane’s part but some amazing work has been done by very talented bloggers there.
Hi You.. My nic then and still is..I just never go there anymore.. NapaValleyHomer… I was always treated with respect there…I just had to go away
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:06:42pm |
re: #287 WindUpBird
If this is how insane they are now? Just nakedly, openly completely bonkers?
Insane and bonkers aren’t words I’m thinking of. Evil, pure fucking evil, is all I can see.
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researchok Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:07:15pm |
re: #285 HoosierHoops
Crazy times…I first blogged for the first time after seeing the Sundance Movie Blog Wars 2 about Firedoglake…I lost my blogging cherry to Jane’s site…I love em all but they are just too left for me.. I’m a moderate…
The black face thing really bothered me
You know what bothers me most?
She could have been a real powerhouse, with real influence. Why she took the low road is beyond me.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:08:01pm |
re: #292 researchok
You know what bothers me most?
She could have been a real powerhouse, with real influence. Why she took the low road is beyond me.
Agreed
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:10:20pm |
re: #290 HoosierHoops
Hi You.. My nic then and still is..I just never go there anymore.. NapaValleyHomer… I was always treated with respect there…I just had to go away
I do understand. I don’t visit there often anymore either, though my connection there is one that is blood related. I still respect very much the accomplishments of Jane and the other bloggers. They set the bar very high.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:11:44pm |
I can’t find an article on the acid face woman. But I did find a video from CNN by a woman I despise. I need to set my computer on fire now. Stupid fucking bitch.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:11:52pm |
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cliffster Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:13:33pm |
re: #295 Cannadian Club Akbar
I can’t find an article on the acid face woman. But I did find a video from CNN by a woman I despise. I need to set my computer on fire now. Stupid fucking bitch.
glad I could make your friday fun
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:14:11pm |
re: #295 Cannadian Club Akbar
I can’t find an article on the acid face woman. But I did find a video from CNN by a woman I despise. I need to set my computer on fire now. Stupid fucking bitch.
Jane Velez Mitchell. Sensationalist whore.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:15:14pm |
re: #295 Cannadian Club Akbar
The Oregonian would have the most recent information. There is a Vancouver newspaper, but it wouldn’t have anything the Oregonian doesn’t have.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:15:25pm |
re: #298 Cannadian Club Akbar
J
ane Velez Mitchell. Sensationalist whore.
I think sick woman in need of help is a more accurate description.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:16:14pm |
Couple charged in nuclear weapons secrets case
A scientist and his wife who both once worked at Los Alamos National Laboratory were arrested Friday after FBI agents allegedly lured them into what they were told was a conspiracy to help develop a nuclear weapon for Venezuela.
They were accused of offering nuclear weapons secrets to Venezuela, but the U.S. government is not alleging Venezuela or anyone working for it sought U.S. secrets.
Pedro Leonardo Mascheroni, 75, and Marjorie Roxby Mascheroni, 67, a U.S. citizen, were arrested Friday, a day after they were indicted. They appeared in federal court in Albuquerque, where Mascheroni, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Argentina, was ordered held pending another hearing Monday morning. His wife was released under strict conditions.
…According to the 22-count indictment, Mascheroni told the undercover agent he could help Venezuela develop a nuclear bomb within 10 years and that Venezuela would use a secret, underground nuclear reactor to produce and enrich plutonium, and an open, aboveground reactor to produce nuclear energy.
If convicted, the Mascheronis face up to life in prison.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:16:49pm |
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aerial_drone Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:17:45pm |
I’m loving the nightly Palin hate fest. Pass the popcorn!
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:18:09pm |
re: #301 NJDhockeyfan
They were accused of offering nuclear weapons secrets to Venezuela, but the U.S. government is not alleging Venezuela or anyone working for it sought U.S. secrets.
What’s wrong with this picture?
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:18:33pm |
re: #296 WindUpBird
Gary Bauer Compares Voting In November To Overthrowing The 9/11 Hijackers
Oh, lovely.
Is this the 2010 version of the “you’re either with us, or with the terrorists”? If so, it’s still a shitty meme.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:19:06pm |
re: #305 allegro
What’s wrong with this picture?
They were contacting FBI undercover people, I believe.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:19:33pm |
re: #300 allegro
J
I think sick woman in need of help is a more accurate description.
Everyday scores of young people take their own lives by suicide in a tale of human tragedy that rarely gets reported in the press…But splash some acid on your face and in a global news story
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Reginald Perrin Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:19:35pm |
re: #304 aerial_drone
I’m loving the nightly Palin hate fest. Pass the popcorn!
Do you get off on the down-dings?
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:19:45pm |
re: #305 allegro
What’s wrong with this picture?
They were on to him before he contacted Venezuelan government officials?
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Kragar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:19:47pm |
re: #306 Lidane
Oh, lovely.
Is this the 2010 version of the “you’re either with us, or with the terrorists”? If so, it’s still a shitty meme.
So if I vote against the Tea party and religious dominionists in the GOP, I’m fighting terrorism? I can do that.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:20:31pm |
re: #310 NJDhockeyfan
They were on to him before he contacted Venezuelan government officials?
He thought he did. It was a sting.
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:20:56pm |
re: #311 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
So if I vote against the Tea party and religious dominionists in the GOP, I’m fighting terrorism? I can do that.
Nope. According to Gary Bauer, if you vote against the Tea Party and religious dominionists, you’re siding with the 9/11 hijackers against America.
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aerial_drone Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:21:00pm |
re: #309 Reginald Perrin
I love to be contrary to Leftists.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:21:01pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:21:46pm |
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Kragar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:22:00pm |
re: #314 Lidane
Nope. According to Gary Bauer, if you vote against the Tea Party and religious dominionists, you’re siding with the 9/11 hijackers against America.
But you’re forgetting a key factor.
Bauer is full of shit.
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:22:11pm |
re: #312 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I hate hiccups.
I’ve found two things that work to get rid of hiccups— gargling with warm salt water, and chewing on a lemon soaked in bitters.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:22:29pm |
re: #315 aerial_drone
I love to be contrary to Leftists.
Yes. Most here are leftist. Or, or, we actually think.
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:22:51pm |
re: #318 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
But you’re forgetting a key factor.
Bauer is full of shit.
Heh. True. But that’s not a key factor. It’s a default feature.
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Kragar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:22:54pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:22:54pm |
re: #313 Cannadian Club Akbar
He thought he did. It was a sting.
And he got stung. I hope he rots in prison. I hate Americans who spy against their own country.
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jaunte Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:23:35pm |
re: #296 WindUpBird
Gary Bauer Compares Voting In November To Overthrowing The 9/11 Hijackers
Nasty little homunculus.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:23:43pm |
re: #323 NJDhockeyfan
And he got stung. I hope he rots in prison. I hate Americans who spy against their own country.
It was him AND his wife.
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aerial_drone Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:23:46pm |
re: #320 Cannadian Club Akbar
So the authors of the Constitution were stupid because they believed in limited government?
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:24:00pm |
re: #307 Cannadian Club Akbar
They were contacting FBI undercover people, I believe.
There are some interesting pieces missing here. Did they just spontaneously decide to give/sell secrets to Venezuela with undercover FBI agents waiting for a call? That doesn’t sound quite plausible. Were they contacted by undercover agents because they were suspected? Makes more sense but what did they do to earn that suspicion? I wonder…
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webevintage Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:24:05pm |
So I watched Bill Maher tonight.
(Don’t judge me!)
O’Donnell was on his show 22 times and until she comes on before the election he’s going to keep showing clips like the one he showed tonight where she talked about being involved in “witch craft” and (I think) having sex on a satanic altar even though at the time she did not know it was a altar.
It was a bit hard to follow, but yeah, good times.
and Andrew Breitbart is going to be on next week with Seth McFarland….that should be a hum dinger of a show.
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Reginald Perrin Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:24:16pm |
re: #315 aerial_drone
I love to be contrary to Leftists.
You are a silly little troll. It’s rather childish behavior, but everyone has the right to make an ass of themselves……. have fun.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:24:36pm |
re: #326 aerial_drone
So the authors of the Constitution were stupid because they believed in limited government?
So, we have been talking about expanding gubment tonight?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:25:05pm |
re: #296 WindUpBird
Gary Bauer Compares Voting In November To Overthrowing The 9/11 Hijackers
And his analogy also makes Obama a Muslim, too. What crap.
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Four More Tears Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:25:24pm |
re: #314 Lidane
Nope. According to Gary Bauer, if you vote against the Tea Party and religious dominionists, you’re siding with the 9/11 hijackers against America.
Do we still get the 72 virgins?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:26:12pm |
re: #327 allegro
I’m thinking there was suspicion and proactive steps. They both worked at Los Alamos. Also, computer downloads and the such.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:26:15pm |
re: #326 aerial_drone
So the authors of the Constitution were stupid because they believed in limited government?
[pokes troll with turning fork]
This one’s nice and plump. He’ll roast up good.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:26:35pm |
re: #326 aerial_drone
So the authors of the Constitution were stupid because they believed in limited government?
And here comes the march of the “I don’t know what the fuck they mean but I believe them” talking points.
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aerial_drone Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:26:36pm |
re: #331 Cannadian Club Akbar
No just pointing out that it’s much easier to charactarize those who disagree with you as stupid or evil so you can dismiss them as human beings and not deal with substance. If that make me a troll in your echo chamber so be it.
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Four More Tears Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:27:05pm |
re: #326 aerial_drone
So the authors of the Constitution were stupid because they believed in limited government?
So limited that one of them doubled the size of the US with one swipe of the credit card…
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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:27:06pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:27:41pm |
re: #338 aerial_drone
Show me where I said anything like that. You can, you fucking Douche.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:28:30pm |
re: #341 Cannadian Club Akbar
Show me where I said anything like that. You can, you fucking Douche.
Can= can’t, pimf.
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cliffster Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:28:54pm |
re: #338 aerial_drone
No just pointing out that it’s much easier to charactarize those who disagree with you as stupid or evil so you can dismiss them as human beings and not deal with substance. If that make me a troll in your echo chamber so be it.
wow, you suck even more than liberals
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:29:11pm |
Has Sean Penn met a commie or dictator he didn’t like?
Penn, del Toro call for release of convicted Cuban spies
Actors Sean Penn and Benicio del Toro, Hollywood stars known for their activism, have added their signatures to a petition calling on President Barack Obama to release five Cuban spies held in US jails for 12 years, state media said Friday.The petition has already been signed by other Hollywood luminaries including director Oliver Stone, actors Martin Sheen and Susan Sarandon, and musicians Jackson Browne, Graham Nash and Bonnie Raitt.
Both of the recent signatories have history with Havana’s communist regime, with Oscar-winning Penn — star of 2003’s “Mystic River” and 2009’s “Milk” — having travelled to Cuba to meet iconic leader Fidel Castro, and del Toro playing fellow revolutionary Che Guevara in an acclaimed on-screen portrayal.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:29:19pm |
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Kragar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:29:54pm |
re: #345 Dark_Falcon
And here’s the “LGF is an Echo Chamber” meme.
I’ll go get the charcoal.
Hickory or Mesquite?
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:30:37pm |
re: #338 aerial_drone
No just pointing out that it’s much easier to charactarize those who disagree with you as stupid or evil so you can dismiss them as human beings and not deal with substance. If that make me a troll in your echo chamber so be it.
We already have someone here who does that. Try to do something original.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:31:04pm |
re: #338 aerial_drone
No just pointing out that it’s much easier to charactarize those who disagree with you as stupid or evil so you can dismiss them as human beings and not deal with substance
So where’s the substance?
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:31:21pm |
re: #344 NJDhockeyfan
Has Sean Penn met a commie or dictator he didn’t like?
Everyone who signed that letter is either a fool or an ass. These are people sent to py on us by a hostile nation. They belong in prison.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:32:45pm |
re: #296 WindUpBird
Gary Bauer Compares Voting In November To Overthrowing The 9/11 Hijackers
I’m afraid I watched live today. WUB you probably would’ve had an aneurysm if you heard the anti-DADT people prior to his speech. Pure, unadulterated gay bashing to a large (sometime giggling) crowd.
It was so disgusting my stomach ached all day.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:32:47pm |
re: #349 Cannadian Club Akbar
A Drone attack!! OH NOES!!
Since the next step is to call us “Godless Communists!!1”, I’m going to get our SA-20 batteries ready. We’ll give the drone a hot reception. :D
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Four More Tears Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:33:34pm |
re: #351 Dark_Falcon
Everyone who signed that letter is either a fool or an ass. These are people sent to py on us by a hostile nation. They belong in prison.
Yeah, just like those Russian spies we cau… oh, wait…
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:33:36pm |
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jaunte Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:33:55pm |
re: #351 Dark_Falcon
The Cuban government has acknowledged the five were agents but said their mission was to spy on anti-Castro Cubans in Miami, not on the United States.
Anti-Castro Cubans in Miami who were US citizens. No excuse.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:34:02pm |
re: #327 allegro
There are some interesting pieces missing here. Did they just spontaneously decide to give/sell secrets to Venezuela with undercover FBI agents waiting for a call? That doesn’t sound quite plausible. Were they contacted by undercover agents because they were suspected? Makes more sense but what did they do to earn that suspicion? I wonder…
Here is how they discovered him…
Many previous FBI spy sting cases have begun this way: U.S. intelligence learns, often by electronic surveillance, that someone in this country is trying to contact a foreign power to offer their services or U.S. secrets. Then the FBI has an undercover agent pose as a representative of that country to respond favorably, cultivate a relationship and see what, if any, secrets the person tries to pass or sell.
It must happen all the time and sometimes they actually find someone who wants to make money by giving up military secrets. These people are dispicable.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:34:14pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:36:17pm |
re: #354 JasonA
Yeah, just like those Russian spies we cau… oh, wait…
Russia traded them for some of our people. That’s how the game is played. Cuba has nothing to trade.
Hostile spies do belong in prison, but sometimes trading them is in the national interest.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:36:22pm |
re: #353 Dark_Falcon
Since the next step is to call us “Godless Communists!!1”, I’m going to get our SA-20 batteries ready. We’ll give the drone a hot reception. :D
Communists had a god. They embalmed him and set up a shrine to him in the middle of Red Square.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:36:29pm |
re: #357 NJDhockeyfan
Spying against the US during war time carries the Death Penalty. IIRC, the last time we carried that out was the ‘60’s. I may be thinking of the UCMJ, though.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:37:51pm |
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:38:14pm |
re: #338 aerial_drone
Given your nick, I suppose it’s safe to assume that you’re not actually at your own controls. Whoever’s flying you is doing a shitty job.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:38:19pm |
re: #360 Dark_Falcon
Russia traded them for some of our people. That’s how the game is played. Cuba has nothing to trade.
Hostile spies do belong in prison, but sometimes trading them is in the national interest.
I could use a 1950’s Chevy.
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jaunte Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:38:41pm |
so you can dismiss them as human beings and not deal with substance
Did I read right past some substance or is this just chaff?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:38:57pm |
re: #364 darthstar
Given your nick, I suppose it’s safe to assume that you’re not actually at your own controls. Whoever’s flying you is doing a shitty job.
But a long time poster.
/need I?
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:39:29pm |
Keep it classy S. Sarah
from her tweet
“My advice for Lisa is the same for anyone who sees a grizzly in the woods. DON’T RUN.”. tweeted by Orora 9/17/10 5:28pm
She’s got cover because she cut and tweeted Orora’s tweet (I guess)
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:40:56pm |
re: #363 allegro
Thanks. Interesting.
I loved all that cloak & dagger shit during the Cold War. I like watching all those shows about it on the Military Channel. There is a spy museum in Washington DC I want to visit next time I’m there.
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cliffster Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:41:01pm |
If you’re wanting to brush up on your zombiology..
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:41:03pm |
re: #365 Cannadian Club Akbar
I could use a 1950’s Chevy.
That would be nice. My dad came of age in the 1950’s, so such cars will always hold a special place for him.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:41:21pm |
re: #352 Stanley Sea
I’m afraid I watched live today. WUB you probably would’ve had an aneurysm if you heard the anti-DADT people prior to his speech. Pure, unadulterated gay bashing to a large (sometime giggling) crowd.
It was so disgusting my stomach ached all day.
I don’t even watch stuff like that, can’t do it
I’d rather watch an autopsy
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:42:48pm |
re: #372 WindUpBird
I don’t even watch stuff like that, can’t do it
I’d rather watch an autopsy
Seriously. I’ve watched a lot of this stuff, and this to me was the worst I’ve seen. 20/20 and all that.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:43:00pm |
re: #372 WindUpBird
I don’t even watch stuff like that, can’t do it
I’d rather watch an autopsy
I used to watch knee operations and shit like that on PBS. Loved it. And if you hurt your knee, gimme a call.
/
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:46:23pm |
re: #372 WindUpBird
I don’t even watch stuff like that, can’t do it
I’d rather watch an autopsy
On the GOP?
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webevintage Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:46:26pm |
re: #368 Stanley Sea
Keep it classy S. Sarah
from her tweet
“My advice for Lisa is the same for anyone who sees a grizzly in the woods. DON’T RUN.”. tweeted by Orora 9/17/10 5:28pm
She’s got cover because she cut and tweeted Orora’s tweet (I guess)
God I hate her.
Why won’t she just go the fuck away?
(I know, I know she’s making too much money to go away now.)
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:48:10pm |
Speaking of drone attacks, I want to remind everyone that we have plenty of info on the real deal in pages.
The latest entries include:
“Parole drone catches up with Recidivist AQ Gitmo-alum, subject not available for comment” , along with plenty of our usual Michael Moore inspired lefty commentary deploring this unlawful targeted zap without benefit of due process, (NOT!).
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:49:37pm |
re: #368 Stanley Sea
“My advice for Lisa is the same for anyone who sees a grizzly in the woods. DON’T RUN.”.
Grrr… as a wildlife biologist who has a great respect and love for bears, I am deeply offended by this comparison. Bears are amazing, protective mothers who are righteously revered by the Native Americans for these qualities for which Sara is an EPIC FAIL. I will never get the image of her family passing that helpless non-responsive baby from hand to hand for the sake of the cameras at that convention out of my head. I think of that lovely Downs Syndrome actress describing Sara as carrying the baby like a “loaf of French bread” on the stage.
Sara has no spirit of Grizzly. She has no fucking clue.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:51:25pm |
re: #369 NJDhockeyfan
I loved all that cloak & dagger shit during the Cold War. I like watching all those shows about it on the Military Channel. There is a spy museum in Washington DC I want to visit next time I’m there.
I had an uncle who served in intelligence in the European theater in WWII. Even until his death in about 1989, he never went into real detail since he was still held to confidence, he had some great stories to tell.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:52:17pm |
re: #377 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hey Drone-Douche, why so quiet?
He’s reloading on bile-missiles over at the Stalker Blog.
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:53:19pm |
re: #379 allegro
It’s only a matter of time before Palin wears out the “mama grizzly” term…it’ll probably last through November. Then she’ll cart out the Bald Eagle for six months, and after that the Sockeye Salmon. By 2012 all she’ll have left will be chipmunks and grouse.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:53:41pm |
re: #380 allegro
I had an uncle who served in intelligence in the European theater in WWII. Even until his death in about 1989, he never went into real detail since he was still held to confidence, he had some great stories to tell.
That’s very cool!
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:54:46pm |
re: #379 allegro
Sawah would sell her entire family to Satan for power.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:55:01pm |
re: #381 Dark_Falcon
He’s reloading on bile-missiles over at the Stalker Blog.
Why do they make this so easy? I’m an easy going guy and I can rip them apart. Geez.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:56:15pm |
re: #382 darthstar
It’s only a matter of time before Palin wears out the “mama grizzly” term…it’ll probably last through November. Then she’ll cart out the Bald Eagle for six months, and after that the Sockeye Salmon. By 2012 all she’ll have left will be chipmunks and grouse.
Chip and Dale are SEEKRIT QUEERS inserted by Disney to brainwash children!!!11
/Palin 2012
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:56:35pm |
re: #384 Cato the Elder
Sawah would sell her entire family to Satan for power.
Not only Palin, most of Washington is like that.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:58:18pm |
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:59:09pm |
re: #384 Cato the Elder
Cato!
Stop it!
/I got a mini bar at the hotel..Can I interest you in some cheap scotch?
//
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brownbagj Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:59:13pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 8:59:29pm |
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:00:36pm |
re: #393 Cannadian Club Akbar
I was thinking Space Buddha. Don’t tell Space Jesus.
SpaceBuddha
good nic
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AlexRogan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:01:36pm |
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:01:55pm |
re: #382 darthstar
It’s only a matter of time before Palin wears out the “mama grizzly” term…it’ll probably last through November. Then she’ll cart out the Bald Eagle for six months, and after that the Sockeye Salmon. By 2012 all she’ll have left will be chipmunks and grouse.
And another thing… since I’m well into rant mode here… Bear is the symbol of healing, not war. Bear is called upon to give strength and health to the soul, a powerful, loving spirit of warmth, family, and community. That she is corrupting that spirit in such a way to bring about fear and divisiveness, using Bear like a gun to draw blood, just so pisses me off. Don’t EVEN bring Eagle into it… the spirit of vision. Just…. don’t.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:01:58pm |
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jaunte Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:02:05pm |
Roguishness appears to be out of fashion lately.
At NRO, Jim Geraghty is complaining about RINO’s.
“…the moderates never seem to be willing to compromise or put the party’s interest first.”
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Kragar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:04:21pm |
re: #393 Cannadian Club Akbar
I was thinking Space Buddha. Don’t tell Space Jesus.
The God Emperor is not amused.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:04:26pm |
re: #387 NJDhockeyfan
Not only Palin, most of Washington is like that.
Bullshit. Sawah is speshul. She was willing and eager for Bristle to hitch her wagon to a loser asshole to preserve the phony famiwy-valuesy image. For power.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:04:46pm |
re: #396 talon_262
Oh, it’s you again…
*yawn*
He has retreated beneath his bridge for the night it seems.
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Jadespring Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:04:56pm |
re: #374 Cannadian Club Akbar
I used to watch knee operations and shit like that on PBS. Loved it. And if you hurt your knee, gimme a call.
/
I have a video tape of my own knee operation. They actually had a camera right inside my knee. It looks like an alien underwater adventure.
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Kronocide Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:05:01pm |
Oh mah gawd, what a week for the Grand ‘Ol Party! WooHoo!
I’m shocked that I’d agree with Wonkette but I’m praying for that train to speed up.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:05:02pm |
Terminator 2 is on TNT. Question: If they have a cyborg Army, why are our guys driving 1980 Ford trucks?
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Kronocide Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:06:28pm |
re: #405 Cannadian Club Akbar
Terminator 2 is on TNT. Question: If they have a cyborg Army, why are our guys driving 1980 Ford trucks?
Oh, you’re one of those guys, the Question The Movie guys. .
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08:16pm |
re: #401 Cato the Elder
Bullshit. Sawah is speshul. She was willing and eager for Bristle to hitch her wagon to a loser asshole to preserve the phony famiwy-valuesy image. For power.
i so wish we could put you in the audience for Dancing with the Stars. Watch you call Sarah Palin out (and she’ll be there for the premiere) would be an excellent act of political hygiene.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08:21pm |
re: #405 Cannadian Club Akbar
Terminator 2 is on TNT. Question: If they have a cyborg Army, why are our guys driving 1980 Ford trucks?
Ask Cameron.. That dude knows everything…I have it on..There is crappy TV on at Hotels….Where is the clicker?
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AlexRogan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08:42pm |
re: #401 Cato the Elder
Bullshit. Sawah is speshul. She was willing and eager for Bristle to hitch her wagon to a loser asshole to preserve the phony famiwy-valuesy image. For power.
I shudder to think how she’ll use Trig later on to further her aims, when he’s older…
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08:44pm |
re: #407 BigPapa
Oh, you’re one of those guys, the Question The Movie guys. .
Damn it!! I’m an American. If they can have a cyborg Army, we should have a Super cyborg Army!! USA!!
/
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:09:42pm |
Well here’s a video of moonbat protesters with Nazi signs.
Debbie Halvorson’s office organizes a protest on September 15, outside an American for Prosperity Event, featuring images of her opponent Adam Kinzinger and other prominent conservative figures as Nazis.
I’m no fan of those who they made to look like Hitler but the protesters are making themselves look like total imbeciles.
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Jadespring Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:09:55pm |
Oh I have an announcement. .
My squash won first prize at the county fair in the biggest squash category !
The hubby and I have been laughing about it all night.
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:10:03pm |
Holy smokes. This looks like a screen capture of a Saturday Night Live video clip with Tina Fey:
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AlexRogan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:10:13pm |
re: #413 Jadespring
Oh I have an announcement. .
My squash won first prize at the county fair in the biggest squash category !
The hubby and I have been laughing about it all night.
Congrats!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:10:31pm |
re: #413 Jadespring
Oh I have an announcement. .
My squash won first prize at the county fair in the biggest squash category !
The hubby and I have been laughing about it all night.
WOOT!!
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blueraven Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:10:35pm |
re: #204 cliffster
Crist is an user of inappropriate funds
or a Funder of inappropriate uses
or an Inappropriate user of funds.
Whatever, I think that election is pretty well wrapped up
I see you have posted that twice now, so I read the article. First of all the “Fair and Balanced” tag line kind of threw me a bit. But I read it anyway.
Sounds pretty weak to me. A disney vacation? That’s all I see involving Crist, and Greer is already in hot water. Nothing new there.
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:11:09pm |
re: #410 talon_262
I shudder to think how she’ll use Trig later on to further her aims, when he’s older…
Well, Trig should be talking by 2012, so even if she isn’t running, she’ll probably have him introduce her at the Republican Convention. It’ll be a sound-byte for the media to play 27 times a day for weeks, accompanied by the appropriate “awws” and “oohs”
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Kragar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:11:38pm |
re: #405 Cannadian Club Akbar
Terminator 2 is on TNT. Question: If they have a cyborg Army, why are our guys driving 1980 Ford trucks?
Because the parts were plentiful and didn’t require high tech electronics that Skynet could potentially detect and/or corrupt.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:11:44pm |
re: #410 talon_262
I shudder to think how she’ll use Trig later on to further her aims, when he’s older…
She already started that with the Hitler-worthy Big Lie about “deth panils”.
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:12:13pm |
re: #413 Jadespring
Oh I have an announcement. .
My squash won first prize at the county fair in the biggest squash category !
The hubby and I have been laughing about it all night.
Anyone ever tell you you have nice gourds?
/
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:12:51pm |
re: #413 Jadespring
Oh I have an announcement. .
My squash won first prize at the county fair in the biggest squash category !
The hubby and I have been laughing about it all night.
Outstanding! My friend’s daughter won 1st prize for her rooster when she was about 8 years old. County fairs are so much fun.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:13:09pm |
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:13:58pm |
re: #409 HoosierHoops
Ask Cameron.. That dude knows everything…I have it on..There is crappy TV on at Hotels…Where is the clicker?
What’s Winston doing now?
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:14:05pm |
re: #413 Jadespring
Oh I have an announcement. .
My squash won first prize at the county fair in the biggest squash category !
The hubby and I have been laughing about it all night.
Congratulations! I think…
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:15:09pm |
re: #426 jaunte
re: #409 HoosierHoops
You guys need the imbd list of Terminator goofs while you watch:
[Link: www.imdb.com…]
Revealing mistakes: Steam throttles clearly visible when the Terminator throws the biker onto the stove
A 6 burner isn’t actually hot either. A flat top is different.
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:15:38pm |
BTW. Sleepy observation here. I think the Dems are letting the Tea Party and the GOP run roughshod over them. They’re not putting up a very good defense. At least not that I have noticed. Save for a few comments coming from the White House. I mean coming out comparing them to Calvin Coolidge is only going to leave most American’s scratching their head thinking, “who the hell was Calvin Coolidge?”
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freetoken Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:16:10pm |
In Iowa speech, Palin predicts ‘the great awakening of America’
Sarah Palin’s maiden voyage to Iowa as a potential presidential candidate was, on its face, a fundraiser for the state Republican Party - and an early chance for the former Alaska governor to get some face time with the caucus-goers who will play a major role in determining the party’s nominee in 2012.Instead, Palin trained her fiery message right at the television cameras in the rear of the room, setting herself up squarely as a national leader fueled by populist Tea Party fury against President Obama and his Democratic allies in Washington.
“This is it, GOP,” she said. “This is our time. We can’t blow it GOP. But we won’t wait for that political playbook to be handed to us on high from the elites. It’s we, the people, the average hard-working American people, who will turn this around. It’s the voters who will stop this fundamental transformation of America.”
The cause of this election cycle is a revivalist one, she said, calling the political moment “the great awakening of America.”[…]
In this hyper-religious country it’s straight-forward political calculus to refer to previous American events, in this case the two “Great Awakenings” of evangelical fervor that swept the colonies.
Clearly Palin sees herself as a messianic figure. An article on Salon (IIRC) recently discussed Palin’s Esther-complex. I think it’s a good summary of what Palin believes of herself.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:16:11pm |
Linda Hamilton is so hot in T2. No wonder Cameron married her.
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HoosierHoops Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:16:15pm |
re: #427 Stanley Sea
What’s Winston doing now?
Laying on the bed next to me…He is exhausted from today
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Jadespring Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:16:52pm |
re: #424 NJDhockeyfan
Outstanding! My friend’s daughter won 1st prize for her rooster when she was about 8 years old. County fairs are so much fun.
It was fun. It was the first time I’ve ever participated in one. I didn’t set out to grow anything for it but this squash plant just grew like crazy so I thought what the heck might as well take it in and see. The other ones that were entered were less then half the size of mine. It was hilarious standing back and watching all the people’s reactions to it. One guy actually went and grabbed his wife to come and see it he was so excited about it. LOL
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blueraven Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:17:20pm |
re: #420 Cannadian Club Akbar
Crist spent 13K.
We’ll see. Not exactly how I read it. An “independent audit” commissioned by the Florida republican party. They are not pissed at Crist or anything. I will have to read a bit more from other sources first.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:17:29pm |
re: #413 Jadespring
You might want to give me a call. One of my high-school buddies is a leading expert in gourds, squash and pumpkins. Seriously.
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freetoken Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:18:07pm |
re: #430 Gus 802
To me, the Democratic Party does not look like a coherent machine, but rather like a cacophony of special interests which partner with each other from time to time.
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:18:16pm |
re: #427 Stanley Sea
What’s Winston doing now?
Ah, I just got Van Morrison stuck in my head. His song, “In the Days Before Rock-n-Roll”
Justin, gentler than a man
I am down on my knees
At the wireless knobs
I am down on my knees
At those wireless knobs
Telefunken, Telefunken
And I’m searching for
Luxembourg, Luxembourg,
Athlone, Budapest, AFN,
Hilversum, Helvetia
In the days before rock ‘n’ rollIn the days before rock ‘n’ roll
In the days before rock ‘n’ rollWhen we let, then we bet
On Lester Piggott when we met
We let the goldfish goIn the days before rock ‘n’ roll
Fats did not come in
Without those wireless knobs
Fats did not come in
Without those wireless knobs
Elvis did not come in
Without those wireless knobs
Nor Fats, nor Elvis
Nor Sonny, nor Lightning
Nor Muddy, nor John LeeIn the days before rock ‘n’ roll
In the days before rock ‘n’ rollWhen we let and we bet
On Lester Piggott 10/1
And we let the goldfish go
Down the stream
Before rock ‘n’ roll
We went over the wavebands
We’d get Luxembourg,
Luxembourg and AthloneAFM stars of Jazz
Come in, come in, come in, Ray Charles
Come in, the high priestIn the days before rock ‘n’ roll
In the days before rock ‘n’ rollWhen we let and we bet
On Lester Piggott 10 to 1
And we let the goldfish go
And then the killer came along
The killer, Jerry Lee Lewis
A whole lotta shakin’ goin’ on,
Great balls of fire
Little RichardJustin, gentler than a man
Justin, Justin, where is Justin now?
What’s Justin doing now?
Just, where is Justin now?
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Jadespring Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:21:13pm |
re: #436 Cato the Elder
You might want to give me a call. One of my high-school buddies is a leading expert in gourds, squash and pumpkins. Seriously.
Well it sure has got me more interested in them now. My soil seems to grow them really well for some reason.
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:21:34pm |
re: #437 freetoken
To me, the Democratic Party does not look like a coherent machine, but rather like a cacophony of special interests which partner with each other from time to time.
Which is typical except for 2008 when they rallied around Obama. Right now I’m only seeing it done at few rallies where Obama speaks but those are limited to largely organized labor audiences. History might repeat itself here and we may some changes from the Dems after November from within the party. Many heads are going to roll.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:22:12pm |
re: #431 freetoken
In Iowa speech, Palin predicts ‘the great awakening of America’
In this hyper-religious country it’s straight-forward political calculus to refer to previous American events, in this case the two “Great Awakenings” of evangelical fervor that swept the colonies.
Clearly Palin sees herself as a messianic figure. An article on Salon (IIRC) recently discussed Palin’s Esther-complex. I think it’s a good summary of what Palin believes of herself.
Vanity Fair today printed an email from Lou Engle to Sr. Sarah sent right before her debate with Biden, CALLING her Esther. Got to VF.com to read. gah
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:23:29pm |
re: #426 jaunte
That kind of close reading should be reserved for the Constitution and Sawah Pawin speeches.
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freetoken Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:23:42pm |
re: #442 Stanley Sea
Yeah, it was Vanity Fair which (among many others) printed an Esther comparison:
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:23:46pm |
re: #439 darthstar
Ah, I just got Van Morrison stuck in my head. His song, “In the Days Before Rock-n-Roll”
Upding for Van Morrison!
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jaunte Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:23:52pm |
re: #439 darthstar
Ah, I just got Van Morrison stuck in my head. His song, “In the Days Before Rock-n-Roll”
If you haven’t heard it, give it a couple of minutes to build.
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:24:43pm |
re: #442 Stanley Sea
Vanity Fair today printed an email from Lou Engle to Sr. Sarah sent right before her debate with Biden, CALLING her Esther. Got to VF.com to read. gah
Ugh…vomit.
Sarah, I could be wrong, but I’ve been praying for five years for an Esther, with dreams of being a Mordecai to that Esther. I believe you’re the one and I think you’re even wearing a life band. Tonight don’t be ashamed to plead for the life of the unborn and all the wounded woman who have gone through this holocaust. You can throw this email away, but I have 50 young people fasting and praying day and night who are shouting tonight: “Grace, grace to you!”
full bullshit email here:
vanityfair.com
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:26:15pm |
re: #447 darthstar
Ugh…vomit.
full bullshit email here:
[Link: www.vanityfair.com…]
absolute vomit. I almost did a page, had it all set up, then I vomited & hit delete.
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freetoken Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:26:27pm |
re: #441 Gus 802
I’m not sure there is a coherent set of doctrines around which the various groups in the Democratic Party can really rally around.
In 2008 I give credit to Obama and his campaign more than I do to the traditional Democratic Party machinery.
After all, it was (at least in part) the Clinton campaign that was sneaking in all sorts of doubts about Obama early on.
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:26:42pm |
re: #445 NJDhockeyfan
Thanks…I love that song, but couldn’t find it on youtube…too bad, because it’s pure poetry, the way he recites the lyrics…bought the sheet music to that album and learned a few of the songs on the guitar.
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prairiefire Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:26:59pm |
re: #448 Stanley Sea
absolute vomit. I almost did a page, had it all set up, then I vomited & hit delete.
The v/delete key.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:27:44pm |
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:28:41pm |
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freetoken Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:29:23pm |
More on the Esther-complex, from the 2008 campaign:
If you need a good reason to vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin in November, here it is: “Sarah is that standard God has raised up to stop the flood. She has the anointing … Back in the 1980s, I sensed that Israel’s little-known Benjamin Netanyahu was chosen by God for an important end-time role. I still believe that. I now have that same sense about Sarah Palin.”
That’s a quote from an e-mail that’s now circulating in the evangelical community; a friend passed it on to me. As best as I can tell, the text of the e-mail was originally written by Jim Bramlett, an author and former vice president with the Christian Broadcasting Network. (You can read more about him in this WorldNetDaily article about his claim that he’s obtained recordings of angels singing.)
This e-mail isn’t the only instance of Palin being seen this way. Sarah Posner, who has an interesting article about Palin’s time as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, in Salon today, previously wrote about this phenomenon on TAPPED: “Many evangelicals are talking about Palin being like the biblical Queen Esther, who saved the Jews from the genocidal Haman, and believe that Palin has come, like Esther did, ‘for a time such as this.’ (The same narrative built around George W. Bush when he was running.)”
[…]
Sarah Palin is the socon/theocracy movement made flesh.
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blueraven Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:29:54pm |
re: #445 NJDhockeyfan
Upding for Van Morrison!
[Video]
My favorite concert ever…Van Morrison 1979-Armadillo World Headquarters…Austin TX
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:30:29pm |
re: #449 freetoken
I’m not sure there is a coherent set of doctrines around which the various groups in the Democratic Party can really rally around.
In 2008 I give credit to Obama and his campaign more than I do to the traditional Democratic Party machinery.
After all, it was (at least in part) the Clinton campaign that was sneaking in all sorts of doubts about Obama early on.
True. The Clinton camp was sneaking in a lot of fodder against Obama early on in the manner of Dick Morris — for obvious reasons although I’m not sure if he was directly behind that.
Speaking of the Clintons. Bill Clinton did speak out but in a rather subdued manner. He only said that Tea Party activists are corporate “pawns”. I don’t think that’s going to cut it. They need to turn up the volume. There’s plenty of material out there and they’re not taking advantage of it. They need to stop being so polite.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:30:57pm |
Totally o/t but I’m using Chrome now. Learning curve. But for some reason youtubes would only play on LGF (only) if I hit ctrl back arrow. wha?
But NOW they play normal. confusion, but it works now.
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prairiefire Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:31:08pm |
re: #452 Stanley Sea
Remember it, we’re gonna need it.
You are right, Stanley. Goodnight, hope you have a good weekend. My boy has his first roller skating party tomorrow, and then I need to list on Ebay and try to get somebody to pry open their pocketbooks and spend a little bit of money!
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:32:11pm |
re: #446 jaunte
If you haven’t heard it, give it a couple of minutes to build.
[Video]
I am listening. Never heard before - EXCELLENT
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:32:29pm |
re: #450 darthstar
Thanks…I love that song, but couldn’t find it on youtube…too bad, because it’s pure poetry, the way he recites the lyrics…bought the sheet music to that album and learned a few of the songs on the guitar.
Yeah, Van Morrison doesn’t allow his videos to be online anywhere. They are very hard to find.
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jaunte Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:32:55pm |
re: #462 Stanley Sea
Those photos are really cool, too. Watch for Muhammad Ali.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:34:03pm |
re: #455 freetoken
The same narrative built around George W. Bush when he was running.
And then everyone saw what a weak tool the guy really was for anyone who catered to his ego to get him to do their bidding. instant replay.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:34:57pm |
re: #464 jaunte
hell, I was just listening - just saw the awesome montage. Starting over and watching.
Gracias
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:38:28pm |
re: #456 blueraven
My favorite concert ever…Van Morrison 1979-Armadillo World Headquarters…Austin TX
I never seen Van Morrison live. I wish I had. Maybe one day I will get a chance. I loved seeing him sing at The Wall concert in Germany. The first time I was at Grand Central station in NYC we stopped for a drink at this very small bar. The bartender was this older black guy with a beat up tape player sitting in the window. He was playing Van Morrison. I noticed below the tape player was a stack of tapes, all Van Morrison tapes. I wanted to stay there for a while and just listen & drink.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:38:45pm |
Maybe I’m biased but I don’t find her charming at all. I mean I didn’t with Bush either but when I tried impartially I could see why people found Bush likable. Palin, I don’t find likable at all. I see a lot of hatred and anger in her towards people who don’t share her worldview. She doesn’t seem like the kind of person that you can disagree with and laugh it off with which was to Bush’s credit a good personal quality.
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:40:21pm |
re: #468 NJDhockeyfan
I missed him last time he played in the Bay Area…had some friends who went. They said he did one 45 minute set (@ $150 a seat) and that he didn’t have much energy. Very disappointing. Still, love his stuff and will probably see him next time he comes around.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:40:50pm |
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freetoken Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:40:53pm |
re: #469 HappyWarrior
GWB is a scion of an American nobility, so to speak, and he was trained to make himself at least marginally competent in the pleasantries that nobility practice.
Sarah Esther is from, as us Marxists like to say, a lower class.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:41:58pm |
re: #464 jaunte
KILLING ME. @ 3:21 is the fricking University of Florida football team.
GO GATORS!! holy hell, this is a beautiful video.
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blueraven Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:42:35pm |
re: #468 NJDhockeyfan
I never seen Van Morrison live. I wish I had. Maybe one day I will get a chance. I loved seeing him sing at The Wall concert in Germany. The first time I was at Grand Central station in NYC we stopped for a drink at this very small bar. The bartender was this older black guy with a beat up tape player sitting in the window. He was playing Van Morrison. I noticed below the tape player was a stack of tapes, all Van Morrison tapes. I wanted to stay there for a while and just listen & drink.
I hear ya!
Van Morrison came back to Austin a couple of years ago for the Austin City Limits festival. I saw him again…almost 30 years later. Still the best!
Hope you get to see him some day.
Now, I am really out…
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:42:45pm |
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:42:46pm |
re: #469 HappyWarrior
I mean I didn’t with Bush either but when I tried impartially I could see why people found Bush likable.
You saw something in him I certainly never did. Maybe cuz I’m in Texas and had more knowledge of him, but all I saw was an entitled, sneering frat boy in whom I found no qualities I could respect. Unfortunately, that image was never improved in my eyes.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:42:52pm |
re: #472 freetoken
GWB is a scion of an American nobility, so to speak, and he was trained to make himself at least marginally competent in the pleasantries that nobility practice.
SarahEsther is from, as us Marxists like to say, a lower class.
I guess so. I am just saying I don’t see why people find her likable at all. I don’t think it’s her background. I find Mike Huckabee for example politically godawful but I can see why people like the person in a way. Palin comes across as someone who holds grudges and doesn’t know how to let bygones be bygones.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:43:02pm |
re: #471 Cato the Elder
I meant to say “YouTube on LGF on iPhone”.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:43:49pm |
re: #470 darthstar
I missed him last time he played in the Bay Area…had some friends who went. They said he did one 45 minute set (@ $150 a seat) and that he didn’t have much energy. Very disappointing. Still, love his stuff and will probably see him next time he comes around.
He is known to be difficult to work with. Listening to his voice and watching him sing is worth the trouble.
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jaunte Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:43:50pm |
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KingKenrod Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:44:13pm |
re: #439 darthstar
Ah, I just got Van Morrison stuck in my head. His song, “In the Days Before Rock-n-Roll”
Just one more great song in a career filled with great songs. It’s one of my favorites.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:44:31pm |
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freetoken Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:44:40pm |
re: #477 HappyWarrior
I guess so. I am just saying I don’t see why people find her likable at all.
Well, they like a lot of people you and I may not. For example:
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:44:42pm |
re: #446 jaunte
If you haven’t heard it, give it a couple of minutes to build.
[Video]
Thank you for this.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:45:21pm |
re: #476 allegro
You saw something in him I certainly never did. Maybe cuz I’m in Texas and had more knowledge of him, but all I saw was an entitled, sneering frat boy in whom I found no qualities I could respect. Unfortunately, that image was never improved in my eyes.
That’s mostly how I saw him too but I don’t know, I’ve just read things about him that suggests he’s a more tolerant person than Palin is.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:46:18pm |
re: #484 freetoken
Oh hell, that is reminiscent of Jim Jones. Freak me the hell out.
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freetoken Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:46:59pm |
re: #489 allegro
You do realize that Palin is from a Pentacostal church?
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windsagio Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:47:20pm |
re: #488 jaunte
Kinda sad I have nobody to post “Southern Man” to anymore >>
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:47:20pm |
re: #472 freetoken
GWB is a scion of an American nobility, so to speak, and he was trained to make himself at least marginally competent in the pleasantries that nobility practice.
SarahEsther is from, as us Marxists like to say, a lower class.
The good prince. He is also better educated and has a more worldly view. Additionally he had far greater governing experience. Another difference is that Bush, like him or not, was genuine. When he was being self-deprecating, as he would sometimes be, he was being himself. Palin on the other hand always comes across as putting on an act.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:48:15pm |
re: #490 freetoken
You do realize that Palin is from a Pentacostal church?
I’m an atheist. I never bought that stuff as a little kid even. I don’t get it at all. It creeps me out.
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windsagio Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:49:16pm |
re: #493 allegro
Pentacostals are a special kind of special :P
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:49:37pm |
re: #486 Cato the Elder
Can’t right-click on an iPhone.
Go to Youtube and search for 32v6-iP_hDU
The title is “south in the 60s”
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:50:30pm |
Holy Cow! I found a video of the concert Roger Waters did in Berlin. He did The Wall right after the Berlin Wall went down. Here is Roger Waters & Van Morrison singing Comfortably Numb.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:51:27pm |
re: #492 Gus 802
The good prince. He is also better educated and has a more worldly view. Additionally he had far greater governing experience. Another difference is that Bush, like him or not, was genuine. When he was being self-deprecating, as he would sometimes be, he was being himself. Palin on the other hand always comes across as putting on an act.
I guess the thing about Bush was that he didn’t seem like a totally mean guy. Maybe an idiot on some level but not some mean spirited person. I see Palin as mean spirited. That’s not a view I share of all the possible 2012 candidates. As I said, I can see why some may find Huckabee likable and while I find CHuck Norris’s politics disgusting, that ad was catchy.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:52:43pm |
re: #496 NJDhockeyfan
Holy Cow! I found a video of the concert Roger Waters did in Berlin. He did The Wall right after the Berlin Wall went down. Here is Roger Waters & Van Morrison singing Comfortably Numb.
Comfortably Numb The Wall Live in Berlin 1990 Roger Waters
[Video]
There’s a great rendtiion of Comfortably Numb on the Departed with Van and Waters. Great song. Like Van’s stuff. Have heard him from an early age since my dad’s a big fan. Guy’s got a great voice.
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CarleeCork Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:54:15pm |
Without freedom from religion, there can be NO freedom of religion. Bachmann is CRAZY.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:56:00pm |
re: #495 darthstar
Go to Youtube and search for 32v6-iP_hDU
The title is “south in the 60s”
did you see the Gators? holy hell, that was my NIGHT
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darthstar Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:56:16pm |
Ah, yes…that works.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:57:24pm |
re: #497 HappyWarrior
I guess the thing about Bush was that he didn’t seem like a totally mean guy. Maybe an idiot on some level but not some mean spirited person. I see Palin as mean spirited. That’s not a view I share of all the possible 2012 candidates. As I said, I can see why some may find Huckabee likable and while I find CHuck Norris’s politics disgusting, that ad was catchy.
All we need is Sr. Sarah and “weapons of mass destruction”
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:58:13pm |
re: #499 CarleeCork
Without freedom from religion, there can be NO freedom of religion. Bachmann is CRAZY.
Yeah, and if the Christofascists win and you don’t conform, they will throw the Bible at you.
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:59:31pm |
re: #497 HappyWarrior
I guess the thing about Bush was that he didn’t seem like a totally mean guy. Maybe an idiot on some level but not some mean spirited person. I see Palin as mean spirited. That’s not a view I share of all the possible 2012 candidates. As I said, I can see why some may find Huckabee likable and while I find CHuck Norris’s politics disgusting, that ad was catchy.
The only time I have found Huckabee likable was a few times on his show. Otherwise when he speaks politically I do not find that to be the case. This is especially true when he drifts off into his highly theocratic ideas. Many times, he seems to come across as a self described man of the cloth.
There are a lot of Jekyll and Hyde personalities out there today. One moment you’re watching them and thinking “oh he seems like a nice guy” and then the next day you’re listening to a birther-sympathizing-right-wing-Christian-dogmatist. That’s one of my biggest peeves with the GOP today which is that they seem to all run as religious leaders rather than political leaders. They are indeed the Party of God.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:59:58pm |
re: #504 windsagio
YOu were ALIVE then? >>
hell no!!! but history, history and Van Morrison.
I spent a lot of time figuring out how to tweet to the Gator shit I follow. I did it.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:00:25pm |
re: #497 HappyWarrior
I guess the thing about Bush was that he didn’t seem like a totally mean guy. Maybe an idiot on some level but not some mean spirited person. I see Palin as mean spirited.
I never saw G.W. Bush as mean necessarily, but completely without empathy, certainly. It was evidenced by his mocking of the woman about to be put to death with his “don’t kill me” routine as he refused her stay of execution. When his mom displayed the same lack of empathy with her comments of not wanting to dirty her “beautiful mind” with the numbers of young Americans killed in Iraq and later, with her expressions of contempt for those who suffered from Katrina, I got where it came from. That was so disappointing since I had previously viewed Barbara Bush as a very cool lady. The combination answered questions for me why I found W so… unappealing. He seems an empty, pathetic shell.
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:01:01pm |
re: #476 allegro
Maybe cuz I’m in Texas and had more knowledge of him, but all I saw was an entitled, sneering frat boy in whom I found no qualities I could respect. Unfortunately, that image was never improved in my eyes.
Yeah, same here. I never cared for him much, either as governor or as President. I had much the same image you did, of the sneering, entitled frat boy. Still, when comparing him to the lunatics that have sprung up since he left office, I’d rather listen to his garbled syntax any day of the week over Caribou Barbie and her pathetic word salad, or Bachmann and her crazy, or any of the teabaggers.
I never voted for him, never liked his policies or his politics much, but if I met the guy, I’d shake his hand and be civil to him. He doesn’t seem like a malicious asshole (see: Cheney, Dick), just like someone who coasted by on Daddy’s name for a long time, only to find himself way over his head as President.
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Linden Arden Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:02:29pm |
re: #468 NJDhockeyfan
I never seen Van Morrison live. I wish I had. Maybe one day I will get a chance. .
I’ve seen Van twice and I am a huge fan (recognize my name?)
Van is quirky - I love him -but he is not a Bruce where he goes all out all the time.
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Cheechako Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:02:44pm |
Watched Lisa Murkowski make her announcement to run as an independent write-in candidate tonight. C-Span broadcast the announcement but they don’t have posted on-line just yet. This is going to be a fun campaign. Lisa made it plain that it would be a no holds barred fight against Republican Joe Miller and the Tea Party (and by extension, Sara Palin). Finally a (former) Republican with some back bone. It will be interesting to see just how much “real” support Miller gets from the GOP. The Tea Party has already announced they will be spending a lot money in support of Miller. Just in the primary the Tea Party spent $580,000 for Miller. Maybe this will bankrupt the Tea Party. One can only hope.
I just bought a case of micro-wave popcorn. I hope it’s enough.
Lisa will be getting my vote.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:04:01pm |
re: #510 Lidane
Yeah, same here. I never cared for him much, either as governor or as President. I had much the same image you did, of the sneering, entitled frat boy. Still, when comparing him to the lunatics that have sprung up since he left office, I’d rather listen to his garbled syntax any day of the week over Caribou Barbie and her pathetic word salad, or Bachmann and her crazy, or any of the teabaggers.
I never voted for him, never liked his policies or his politics much, but if I met the guy, I’d shake his hand and be civil to him. He doesn’t seem like a malicious asshole (see: Cheney, Dick), just like someone who coasted by on Daddy’s name for a long time, only to find himself way over his head as President.
Yeah this is how I feel pretty much in better words than I could explain.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:04:01pm |
re: #510 Lidane
Yeah, same here. I never cared for him much, either as governor or as President. I had much the same image you did, of the sneering, entitled frat boy. Still, when comparing him to the lunatics that have sprung up since he left office, I’d rather listen to his garbled syntax any day of the week over Caribou Barbie and her pathetic word salad, or Bachmann and her crazy, or any of the teabaggers.
I never voted for him, never liked his policies or his politics much, but if I met the guy, I’d shake his hand and be civil to him. He doesn’t seem like a malicious asshole (see: Cheney, Dick), just like someone who coasted by on Daddy’s name for a long time, only to find himself way over his head as President.
I concur (D_F)
It’s gone from what we thought was pretty damn bad to the crazy train.
And so quickly
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:04:34pm |
re: #511 windsagio
Never miss a chance to call a woman old.
…
Wait, is that right?!
No, it’s a hell you just created for yourself.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:05:57pm |
re: #510 Lidane
Yeah, same here. I never cared for him much, either as governor or as President. I had much the same image you did, of the sneering, entitled frat boy. Still, when comparing him to the lunatics that have sprung up since he left office, I’d rather listen to his garbled syntax any day of the week over Caribou Barbie and her pathetic word salad, or Bachmann and her crazy, or any of the teabaggers.
I never voted for him, never liked his policies or his politics much, but if I met the guy, I’d shake his hand and be civil to him. He doesn’t seem like a malicious asshole (see: Cheney, Dick), just like someone who coasted by on Daddy’s name for a long time, only to find himself way over his head as President.
Oh and FWIW we’re not going to hear from Cheney probably. He’s on a waiting list for a new heart.
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HappyWarrior Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:07:16pm |
Why does Palin always rail against the establishment when she has in many ways become part of the establishment? Sorry Sarah you’re no longer the little hockey mom governor from Alaska. You’re part of the beast that you claim to be seperate from.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:07:58pm |
re: #510 Lidane
I never voted for him, never liked his policies or his politics much, but if I met the guy, I’d shake his hand and be civil to him.
You are a better person than I. After seeing and experiencing the destruction of the years of his administration, whether due to him (probly not since he has not the intelligence) or only due to those who used him as their puppet (more likely), I can feel only contempt.
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:08:23pm |
re: #521 HappyWarrior
Why does Palin always rail against the establishment when she has in many ways become part of the establishment? Sorry Sarah you’re no longer the little hockey mom governor from Alaska. You’re part of the beast that you claim to be seperate from.
Cognitive dissonance sells.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:09:49pm |
re: #523 Gus 802
Cognitive dissonance sells.
Mean girl and celebrity sells. With red shoes and President hate.
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:11:13pm |
re: #524 Stanley Sea
Mean girl and celebrity sells. With red shoes and President hate.
McCain’s Frankenstein’s Monster.
Wasn’t quite sure which one to strike through.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:12:36pm |
re: #496 NJDhockeyfan
I had a genius friend who spent a long time in the nuthouse. Faulty wiring, whatever. She always said Pink Floyd “got it” better than anyone but Kafka.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:13:56pm |
re: #505 jaunte
More updings for you.
I saw that concert on TV. It is a fantastic video. I think I’m going to buy it next time I see it. Here is the beginning of the concert…
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:14:08pm |
But today’s word was elite. I think I read and heard the word “elite” more times than I did since the beginning of the year. Then this afternoon when I went to pick up a 99-cent bag of Doritos I saw on the package “Win Elite Prizes!” I almost burst out laughing.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:16:00pm |
re: #526 Cato the Elder
I had a genius friend who spent a long time in the nuthouse. Faulty wiring, whatever. She always said Pink Floyd “got it” better than anyone but Kafka.
I saw Pink Floyd twice. Those were fucking amazing concerts.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:17:04pm |
OK, is it late?
I visited one of the two stalker blogs today. Don’t even ask why.
But a person who used to be here (pissing on God type) signed off with a “later lizards!” chaos ensued.
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:17:16pm |
I read that even Gidget from Delaware was using the word today.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:19:34pm |
re: #528 Gus 802
But today’s word was elite. I think I read and heard the word “elite” more times than I did since the beginning of the year.
Gee, one wonders why. Who defines “elite” more than G.W.? Who is held most responsible for today’s economic woes? Ya think there might be a PR effort on the part of the Republicans to distance themselves from that very elite that they have defined for the past decade and more?
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Lidane Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:23:15pm |
re: #522 allegro
It’s not that I’m a better person. I’m just thinking that in that situation, I wouldn’t be all that inclined to piss off the Secret Service by ranting and raving at him or otherwise risk making a scene and becoming That Crazy Lady Who Yelled at the President when the story would inevitably hit the press.
Besides, when compared to the lunatics we’re seeing now, the guy is practically benign, which says a lot.
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:25:42pm |
re: #532 allegro
Gee, one wonders why. Who defines “elite” more than G.W.? Who is held most responsible for today’s economic woes? Ya think there might be a PR effort on the part of the Republicans to distance themselves from that very elite that they have defined for the past decade and more?
It’s funny because elitism is not limited to any one political ideology. However, it seems as if though the right-wing uses it to describe liberals. It’s also a cheap and easy form of populism. Just stand at the podium and bark out the word elite and the audience will know you are talking about liberal Democrats that have power over you that is outside of your control. They’re a great deal of victimology at play here as well.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:30:31pm |
re: #534 Lidane
It’s not that I’m a better person. I’m just thinking that in that situation, I wouldn’t be all that inclined to piss off the Secret Service by ranting and raving at him or otherwise risk making a scene and becoming That Crazy Lady Who Yelled at the President when the story would inevitably hit the press.
Oh, I can dig that. First hand experience even. Not that I ranted and raved at the president, but the secret service thing… a long story.
Besides, when compared to the lunatics we’re seeing now, the guy is practically benign, which says a lot.
What we’re seeing now is an extension that began with Reagan and very much is a result of Bush who saw himself as god ordained for his role. This did not happen recently out of some vacuum since 2009. There is nothing benign about any of this.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:39:02pm |
re: #535 Cato the Elder
[Video]
I’m going to be listening to Pink Floyd for days now. Last week it was Rush.
Here is Pink Floyd at Nassau Coliseum in 1988. I was there. I have the video and an unused concert ticket. My roommate never went and gave it to me.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:41:35pm |
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:44:01pm |
re: #541 Stanley Sea
Gidget from Delaware.
Gold medal to Gus.
It’s a keeper.
Thanks! Yeah, she reminds me of Gidget. Although I’m sure the TV character was far more reasonable, worldly and intelligent.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:44:26pm |
re: #537 windsagio
Best band of the 21st century!
(eat death WUB, if you’re here!)
Um…bit premature, don’t you think? Or are you Wagner with his “Zukunftsmusik”?
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windsagio Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:46:02pm |
re: #543 Cato the Elder
Um…bit premature, don’t you think? Or are you Wagner with his “Zukunftsmusik”?
Forgot the ‘so far’, dammit :P
Gotta remember to be precise on LGF!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:48:10pm |
Goodnight my scaly rock fan friends. Have a great weekend!
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Cato the Elder Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:49:27pm |
re: #544 windsagio
Precision is the mother of all clear writing.
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allegro Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:50:05pm |
Wagner was brilliant but I think to love his work is to be masochistic enough to endure the heavy hand of auditory and emotional battering for long periods of narcissistic Wagnerian indulgence.
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 11:00:47pm |
re: #542 Gus 802
Thanks! Yeah, she reminds me of Gidget. Although I’m sure the TV character was far more reasonable, worldly and intelligent.
Hell, Gidget was from California and she COULD SURF.
major diff
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 11:01:56pm |
re: #549 Stanley Sea
Hell, Gidget was from California and she COULD SURF.
major diff
Yeah. Mostly she just looks like Gidget. Maybe we can call her Dim-Gidget.
/
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 11:05:46pm |
re: #550 Gus 802
Yeah. Mostly she just looks like Gidget. Maybe we can call her Dim-Gidget.
/
oh no, this is just the beginning. Dim-Gidget
But I do wonder (as Cato has said) that she could win.
We’d all just enjoy her reaching her GOAL.
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 11:13:40pm |
re: #551 Stanley Sea
oh no, this is just the beginning. Dim-Gidget
But I do wonder (as Cato has said) that she could win.
We’d all just enjoy her reaching her GOAL.
She could win but she’s going to have to do a lot of convincing in the state of Delaware. The numbers aren’t there even in the polling data but I suppose it could be done.
It would be interesting to see some of these kooks win. O’Donnell, Angle, Paul, etc. The interesting part will be to see the reaction from the people of the associated state when the earmarks begin to dry up. That’s part of their campaign promise: to end earmarks.
So what would happen in Kentucky if you have Mitch McConnell, the earmark king of Kentucky if not the Senate, alongside Rand Paul who claims to be again earmarks and federal spending?
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Stanley Sea Fri, Sep 17, 2010 11:17:05pm |
re: #553 Gus 802
She could win but she’s going to have to do a lot of convincing in the state of Delaware. The numbers aren’t there even in the polling data but I suppose it could be done.
It would be interesting to see some of these kooks win. O’Donnell, Angle, Paul, etc. The interesting part will be to see the reaction from the people of the associated state when the earmarks begin to dry up. That’s part of their campaign promise: to end earmarks.
So what would happen in Kentucky if you have Mitch McConnell, the earmark king of Kentucky if not the Senate, alongside Rand Paul who claims to be again earmarks and federal spending?
That is the ultimate kick. They will NOT deny the earmarks. Once they’re in, they are GWB reincarnated.
fools who believe them
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Gus Fri, Sep 17, 2010 11:20:20pm |
re: #554 Stanley Sea
That is the ultimate kick. They will NOT deny the earmarks. Once they’re in, they are GWB reincarnated.
fools who believe them
Exactly. Once they’re in office they’ll be tallying up the earmarks. If they don’t bring federal money to their states they’re doomed to be one-termers. People like to complain about the spending but are quick to demand smooth roads, highways, parks, airports, etc. Bringing home the bacon. What would happen will be no one else will stop the earmarks (McConnell, McCain, etc.) so they’d be sitting there while the others bring home the pork.
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RogueOne Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:23:51am |
re: #264 WindUpBird
It makes it so easy to vote Democrat! When they say such nakedly ridiculous and insane things, it makes my decision effortless
Like your decision was ever in doubt./
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RogueOne Sat, Sep 18, 2010 6:30:13am |
re: #258 Dark_Falcon
O’Donnell isn’t Angle or Paul: She’s behind and not gaining ground. An honest interview is what she badly needs. Chris Wallace can help her by giving her an honest hearing. If she just continues to refuse to answer questions, she’s toast.
She was nominated 3 days ago, maybe you should give it a little time before you start looking to see if she’s gaining or losing ground.
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Trump’s “Stolen Election” Lie Based on Evidence From Pervy Bathroom Cam-Spy OK, this really takes the cake. If you have relatives that still cling to the “election was stolen, dadgum, I jes’ KNOW IT … This should be a slight remedy to the stubborn madness Thanks to online anonymity, the ...
Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)
2 weeks ago
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Best of April 2024 Nothing new here but these are a look back at the a few good images from the past month. Despite the weather, I was quite pleased with several of them. These were taken with older lenses (made from the ...
William Lewis
2 weeks ago
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Gateway Pundit, Sued by Election Workers, Declares BankruptcyA onetime favorite, now just pathetic figure around these parts, Jim Hoft aka SMOTI ("Stupidest Man On The Internet"), has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in response to the defamation lawsuits filed against him to the same election workers that ... Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)
3 weeks ago
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The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
4 weeks ago
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Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
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