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1 freetoken  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:15:04pm

nice.

2 Lidane  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:17:19pm

Paging Kragar:

3 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:21:24pm

I guess Petraeus really was "All In"

Broadwell embedded with Petraeus in Afghanistan....snicker

I bet she took dictation.

That's all I've got for now...

4 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:27:12pm

re: #3 Darth Vader Gargoyle

I guess Petraeus really was "All In"

Broadwell embedded with Petraeus in Afghanistan....snicker

I bet she took dictation.

That's all I've got for now...

Deep penetration missions.....

5 freetoken  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:28:18pm

Well, that didn't take long:

Ohio anti-abortion ‘heartbeat’ bill sees action in lame duck session

An Ohio bill aimed at restricting abortion access will get another shot in the legislature this upcoming lame duck session, reported the Community Press and Recorder, thanks to new cooperation among anti-abortion rights groups.

Called the heartbeat bill, it would ban abortions after a fetal heartbeat can be detected, which can be as early as six weeks, when some women are not yet aware they are pregnant.

[...]

6 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:29:54pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel

Deep penetration missions.....

Deep undercover.

7 allegro  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:30:02pm

re: #5 freetoken

Well, that didn't take long:

Ohio anti-abortion ‘heartbeat’ bill sees action in lame duck session

Jobs, jobs, jobs.

8 freetoken  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:30:08pm

In supposedly "blue" Washington state, the Democratic party candidate eeks out a victory:

MCKENNA CONCEDES WASHINGTON STATE GOVERNOR'S RACE

9 dragonath  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:36:23pm

re: #8 freetoken

Isn't that like the third time that guy ran?

10 dragonath  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:38:00pm

Never mind, I'm confusing him with Dino Rossi.

11 freetoken  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:38:39pm

re: #9 dragonath

Isn't that like the third time that guy ran?

Don't know. I'm on the whole blissfully ignorant of what happens way up there, associating "Washington" mostly with "apples", "cherries", "Boeing", and "Microsoft". Their politics is a mystery to me.

12 dragonath  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:41:01pm

Well they haven't elected a Republican governor in 30 years and they seem to be doing pretty good...

13 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:41:19pm

re: #11 freetoken

Don't know. I'm on the whole blissfully ignorant of what happens way up there, associating "Washington" mostly with "apples", "cherries", "Boeing", and "Microsoft". Their politics is a mystery to me.

Welcome to the club.

14 freetoken  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:42:24pm

Here's a title of a science press release that will enlighten the readers - not :

Quantum 'kisses 'change the color of space

15 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:43:40pm

I hold no ill will towards Petraeus.

16 dragonath  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:44:04pm

The 2012 Washington Gubernatorial Election took place on November 6, 2012.[1] Candidates in the election were chosen in an August 7, 2012,[2] primary election, under the state's nonpartisan blanket primary system.

I am intrigued

17 bratwurst  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:47:52pm
18 EPR-radar  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:48:28pm

re: #14 freetoken

Here's a title of a science press release that will enlighten the readers - not :

Quantum 'kisses 'change the color of space

Looks like a god-awful main stream media attempt to describe scientific work. Nature is a flagship journal, so the underlying physics is most likely sound.

These scientists should sue for libel based on that awful title.

19 jaunte  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:48:34pm

re: #14 freetoken

The gap generated between two opposing nanospheres of gold can change its colour when the distance between them is less than one nanometre

But of course!

20 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:48:39pm

re: #16 dragonath

The 2012 Washington Gubernatorial Election took place on November 6, 2012.[1] Candidates in the election were chosen in an August 7, 2012,[2] primary election, under the state's nonpartisan blanket primary system.

I am intrigued

Nonpartisan blanket primary system - use in Washington state

Washington state, along with California and Alaska, had a blanket primary system that allowed every voter to choose a candidate of any party for each position. This kind of system was ruled unconstitutional in California Democratic Party v. Jones in 2000 because it forced political parties to endorse candidates against their will.[2]

The Washington State Legislature passed a new primary system in 2004, which would have created a nonpartisan blanket or "Top Two" primary system, with an Open primary as a backup, giving the Governor the option to choose. Although Secretary of State Sam Reed advocated the Top Two, on April 1, 2004 the Governor used the line-item veto to activate the Open primary instead. In response, Washington's Initiative 872 was filed on January 8, 2004 by Terry Hunt from the Washington Grange, which proposed to create a nonpartisan blanket primary in that state. The measure passed with 59.8% of the vote (1,632,225 yes votes and 1,095,190 no votes) in 2004.[5]

On March 18, 2008, the United States Supreme Court ruled in Washington State Grange v. Washington State Republican Party that Washington's Initiative 872 was constitutionally permissible, because unlike the earlier blanket primary, it officially disregards party affiliation while allowing candidates to state their party preference. However, the court wanted to wait for more evidence before addressing the chief items in the complaint and remanded the decision to the lower courts.[2] Since the 2008 decision Washington State implemented the Top two primary, which applies to federal, state and local elections, but not to presidential elections.[6]

There is no voter party registration in Washington. Candidates are not restricted to stating a preference to an established major or minor party. The candidate, on the ballot, has up to 16 characters to describe the party that he or she prefers.[7] Some candidates state a preference for an established major party, such as the Democratic Party or the Republican Party, while others use the ballot to send a message, such as Prefers No New Taxes Party or Prefers Salmon Yoga[8] Party. Since this is a "preference" and not a declaration of party membership, candidates can assert party affiliation without approval of the party itself, and even use alternate terms for a given party, such as Dino Rossi's 2008 stated preference for the "GOP Party"

21 freetoken  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:49:23pm

re: #18 EPR-radar

It's not a media story. It's the actual press release from the institution that is advertising its work.

22 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:50:01pm

re: #15 Gus

I hold no ill will towards Petraeus.

Nor I, but when you're caught with your short arm out, you take the yuks.

23 jaunte  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:51:36pm

re: #21 freetoken

"This new result establishes a fundamental quantum limit for the minimum dimensions within which we can trap light. Moreover, this reinterpretation of the interaction between light and matter at a sub-nanometric scale could provide new ways of describing and measuring the atomic-scale world and open doors to new strategies for the manufacture of even smaller optoelectric technological devices and access new limits of resolution in photochemistry."

Sandgrain cams for Rupert Murdoch.

24 EPR-radar  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:52:03pm

re: #21 freetoken

It's not a media story. It's the actual press release from the institution that is advertising its work.

Oh dear, I missed that.

25 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:55:30pm

re: #22 Decatur Deb

Nor I, but when you're caught with your short arm out, you take the yuks.

Well, going from left to right. The left hates him because he was General Petraeus of the Iraq War. The CIA is pissed off at him. His wife is probably livid. His family and friends, disappointed. Finally to the right because they see him as being Obama's CIA director with who know what conspiracy theory.

26 Stanghazi  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:57:57pm

Funniest thing I saw today were the LGF geniuses who called on Rupert Murdoch to wire tap Patraeus to "get to the bottom of it"

27 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 6:59:01pm

re: #25 Gus

I don't mind him and the Iraq War. He was a General, so he follows the orders of the President and Congress.

However, he was an idiot to cheat on such a loyal women, and very well could have put our national security in danger, with the email thing.

28 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:00:05pm

re: #25 Gus

Well, going from left to right. The left hates him because he was General Petraeus of the Iraq War. The CIA is pissed off at him. His wife is probably livid. His family and friends, disappointed. Finally to the right because they see him as being Obama's CIA director with who know what conspiracy theory.

Colin Powell should soon send him a thank you note for relieving him of the most reviled ex general title. //

29 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:02:53pm

re: #28 Daniel Ballard

Colin Powell should soon send him a thank you note for relieving him of the most reviled ex general title. //

I feel his pain.

Pun intended.

30 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:03:25pm

re: #25 Gus

Well, going from left to right. The left hates him because he was General Petraeus of the Iraq War. The CIA is...snip

A nice chunk of the Army is in "the Left". (Don't think I never met Petraeus,
but I did some of his bosses and other MACOM commanders.) Any guy with his pen in the wrong inkwell is fair game for humor.

31 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:04:04pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

A nice chunk of the Army is in "the Left". (Don't think I never met Petraeus,
but I did some of his bosses and other MACOM commanders.) Any guy with his pen in the wrong inkwell is fair game for humor.

We just can't bring up Clinton though. Right?

32 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:05:10pm

re: #25 Gus

Well, going from left to right. The left hates him because he was General Petraeus of the Iraq War. The CIA is pissed off at him. His wife is probably livid. His family and friends, disappointed. Finally to the right because they see him as being Obama's CIA director with who know what conspiracy theory.

Obama should nominate Valerie Plame to replace Petraeus. Wingnut heads asplode!

33 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:05:26pm

re: #31 Gus

We just can't bring up Clinton though. Right?

Voted for him twice, never miss a shot at a decent Blue Dress joke. He earned it.

34 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:05:33pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

Obama should nominate Valerie Plame to replace Petraeus. Wingnut heads asplode!

I like it.

35 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:05:59pm

re: #33 Decatur Deb

Voted for him twice, never miss a shot at a decent Blue Dress joke. He earned it

I voted for him once. The second time I got drunk.

36 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:06:47pm

That was soooo screwed up.

37 b_Snark  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:08:39pm

Where are the monkeys?

I paid to see monkeys.

38 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:08:56pm

re: #31 Gus

We just can't bring up Clinton though. Right?

If it's funny, let it rip.

(I mean actual funny, not wingnut NO-U, retaliation-as-humor funny)

39 b_Snark  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:10:05pm

re: #38 The Questionable Timing of a Flea

If it's funny, let it rip.

(I mean actual funny, not wingnut NO-U, retaliation-as-humor funny)

OK.

Sorry hon, it wasn't me it was the dog.

40 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:11:32pm

re: #38 The Questionable Timing of a Flea

If it's funny, let it rip.

(I mean actual funny, not wingnut NO-U, retaliation-as-humor funny)

Misplaced Dick jokes are the bargain-basement of social control.

41 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:12:14pm

re: #39 b_snark

OK.

Sorry hon, it wasn't me it was the dog.

Eh. It's not like I'm old enough to "get" many Clinton/Lewinsky jokes anyway. Fart jokes are an acceptable substitute.

...though I question the timing.

42 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:13:50pm

re: #41 The Questionable Timing of a Flea

Eh. It's not like I'm old enough to "get" many Clinton/Lewinsky jokes anyway. Fart jokes are an acceptable substitute.

...though I question the timing.

So I guess "Monkey Business" jokes are a complete loss?

43 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:15:21pm

re: #42 Decatur Deb

So I guess "Monkey Business" jokes are a complete loss?

As in Marx Brothers? Or am I missing a key reference?

44 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:15:40pm

re: #43 The Questionable Timing of a Flea

As in Marx Brothers? Or am I missing a key reference?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

45 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:16:17pm

Warning! Warning!

46 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:17:26pm

I think the professional left still wants to take down Obama.

47 dragonath  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:17:57pm

Hey, I had no idea the Democrats just gained supermajority status in California.

California! Uber Alles!

48 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:19:47pm

Someone just called him a war criminal.

49 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:20:34pm

I'm so glad Obama won.

50 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:20:44pm

re: #47 dragonath

Yup now they own it even more than a 65.99 % majority.
//

Honestly California shows how Democratic dominance of a state legislature is no guarantee of fiscal sensibility. It's not which party is on top, it's about checks and balances combined with smarter less greedy people.

51 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:21:35pm

General Pipelayus

52 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:22:19pm

re: #50 Daniel Ballard

Not so fast. The whole reason for California's dire straits is that stupid proposition that the Conservatives had passed in the 80's.

53 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:22:29pm

re: #46 Gus

I think the professional left still wants to take down Obama.

We have a Professional Left. We keep them locked in the garret with Mrs. Rochester.

54 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:23:41pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I was nine and at a British public school. I summered in India.

I remember the Lockerbie bombing, Piper Alpha, and Raj Kapoor dying.

55 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:24:56pm

re: #52 ProGunLiberal

Not so fast. The whole reason for California's dire straits is that stupid proposition that the Conservatives had passed in the 80's.

Prop 13. Howard Jarvis.

That worked well.

56 Big Joe Ghazi  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:27:32pm

re: #47 dragonath

Hey, I had no idea the Democrats just gained supermajority status in California.

California! Uber Alles!

IF you insist.

57 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:27:34pm

General Petraeus should just claim he was looking for yellowcake uranium. That seems to justify just about anything.

58 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:28:18pm

I'm deep into a glass of cab/merlot from a client's private label. White pasta, coffee, dark red cherry, teak...

No, you can't have any.

59 b_Snark  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:28:54pm

re: #57 The Questionable Timing of a Flea

General Petraeus should just claim he was looking for yellowcake uranium. That seems to justify just about anything.

I read that as 'yellowcake urinal'.

60 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:29:20pm

re: #57 The Questionable Timing of a Flea

General Petraeus should just claim he was looking for yellowcake uranium. That seems to justify just about anything.

My yellowcake brings all the boys in the yard
you're dam right, it's better than yours
I could teach you but I have to charge

61 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:30:05pm

re: #52 ProGunLiberal

Nope. Total up tax revenues from all sources and you find out there is was more than adequate money in the system. Other taxes were passed to make up the difference from 13 and then some. According to this link Californians provide $4375 in state and local revenues. The US overall is $4141. This is up through 2009.

[Link: taxpolicycenter.org...]

Now of course (prop 30) we are the most taxed state in the country period. No need to undue Prop 13.

62 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:31:33pm

re: #56 Big Joe Ghazi

I always preferred the slightly later version ...

63 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:33:18pm

Petraus: 'Hi, my name is David. Can I buy you a drink? It's called the Surge...'

64 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:33:52pm

Sex?

No. That was enhanced interrogation. Ego down, pride down, she go down.

65 dragonath  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:34:52pm

re: #62 William Barnett-Lewis

"Turn on those Dallas Cowboys on your TV
lock your doors...
clooooooooose your mind"

66 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:35:11pm

re: #45 Gus

Warning! Warning!

[Embedded content]

"What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Hitchens

67 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:36:44pm

re: #66 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

"What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." - Hitchens

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

68 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:37:44pm
69 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:44:49pm

re: #61 Daniel Ballard

Prop 30 wouldn't have been needed if you hadn't done Prop. 13. You are expecting to get something for nothing. Things cost money.

70 JamesWI  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:45:35pm

Read the second question here and tell me this doesn't sound like Paula Broadwell's husband (probably isn't, but it is eerie)

71 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:47:23pm

OK. Scandal accepted. Go and govern and wait 2 more years when all this shit starts all over again. This is how democracy works.

//

72 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:48:21pm
73 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:51:23pm

re: #62 William Barnett-Lewis

Jello's lyrics are underappreciated.

Pep rally in the Holy Temple
And you're forced to go
Masturbate en masse
With the favored religious cult
Cheerleaders yell "rah rah team!"
From the locker room
Parades the prime beef
When archaeologists dig this up
They'll either laugh or cry

It's difficult to adequately convey to people who don't have the experience the degree to which Texas high school football really can resemble an apocalyptic religious cult at times.

74 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:52:05pm

Should mention my mom criticized me for the combination of a) rescinding an invitation to go to museum things in Denver and then b) saying she wanting people like me to die because she doesn't support Obamacare.

75 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:53:07pm

re: #45 Gus

Warning! Warning!

[Embedded content]

"The weight of evidence for an extraordinary claim must be proportioned to its strangeness."
-LaPlace

Get it... She might have been his secretary !
LOL

76 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:58:40pm

derivatives/credit default swaps = Ponzi insurance

77 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:58:56pm
78 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 7:59:22pm

They never complained once. ;)

79 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:00:12pm

re: #73 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

It's difficult to adequately convey to people who don't have the experience the degree to which Texas high school football really can resemble an apocalyptic religious cult at times.

Somebody has to feed the sun god.

We can't all be NIMBY about the bat-shaped star demons that want to eat the cosmos.

80 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:01:33pm

That is some cheesy ass country pop.

81 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:02:03pm

re: #80 KronoGhazi

That is some cheesy ass country pop.

You get angry a lot?

82 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:02:45pm

Waits.

83 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:03:31pm

Oh crap, you a B&D fan? Sorry.

84 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:04:13pm

re: #83 KronoGhazi

Oh crap, you a B&D fan? Sorry.

Why are you answering outside the thread?

85 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:04:44pm

re: #82 Gus

Waits.

86 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:05:27pm

re: #23 jaunte

Sandgrain cams for Rupert Murdoch.

Sand grains? Ha!

You know those little floaty things you sometimes see when your eyes are closed?...yep. ;)

Watching you...

///

87 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:05:48pm

Remind me to complain the next time someone posts another speed metal band here. But I won't.

88 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:06:57pm

re: #81 Gus

You get angry a lot?

:P

89 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:07:28pm

I'm lost bro.

90 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:07:36pm

After learning more about it, how in the hell did Iran fail to kill the MQ-1 Predator?

It has the top speed of my Honda Accord, and is about as manuverable as the Spruce Goose. Yes, they were using Su-25, the Soviet Fight-Bomber design. But even the A-10, which is much less suited to air-to-air attacks has killed air targets.

Nobody should be fearing Iran.

91 RadicalModerate  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:07:43pm

re: #62 William Barnett-Lewis

I always preferred the slightly later version ...

[Embedded content]

It still amazes me that some of the frontmen of the early-mid 1980s punk movement were so politically insightful, particularly the ones who didn't engage in self-destructive behavior.

I'm still a pretty big fan of Henry Rollins, who has regular speaking engagements across the country, and recently went on a 50-state interview tour in conjunction with the most recent Presidential election.

He's got an online video series on YouTube as well.
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

92 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:09:35pm

I was outside smoking. I am in Colorado you know.

93 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:10:49pm

re: #88 Varek Raith

[Embedded content]

:P

94 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:10:57pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

We have a Professional Left. We keep them locked in the garret with Mrs. Rochester.

Just keep me away from the burning embers...

95 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:11:27pm

re: #87 Gus

Remind me to complain the next time someone posts another speed metal band here. But I won't.

96 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:12:09pm

As long as no one posts disco, I'm fine with the music.

97 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:12:19pm

re: #70 JamesWI

Read the second question here and tell me this doesn't sound like Paula Broadwell's husband (probably isn't, but it is eerie)

[Embedded content]

It's highly ambiguous. Almost any "government executive" could be projected into that empty space. Seems very similar to the way cold reading works.

I can't remember the name of it to save my life, but there was a study conducted once upon a time that involved people being asked to rate how accurately they thought a few paragraphs described their personalities. Almost everyone said it was an exact or nearly-exact match. In reality, the descriptions were very generalized statements that could apply to almost everyone, but were worded in such a way as to give the illusion of being specific.

98 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:14:10pm

re: #96 Varek Raith

As long as no one posts disco, I'm fine with the music.

99 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:15:32pm

re: #97 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Ouch. Per wiki, the assumed girlfriend is a West Pointer and Reserve Major. If all is accurate, that puts a different color on the thing.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

100 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:17:32pm

Windupbird and Windsagio. I always liked them. Still follow on Twitter.

101 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:18:21pm

WUB.. WTF? Why he not here?

102 RadicalModerate  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:18:51pm

re: #96 Varek Raith

As long as no one posts disco, I'm fine with the music.

You asked for it.

Yes, it's really a Chinese woman, playing French accordion music.

In New Zealand.

103 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:18:53pm

re: #98 Gus

[Embedded content]

You beat me.
I was gonna do "dancing queen".

104 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:20:15pm

re: #96 Varek Raith

Donna Summer

105 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:20:34pm

Home is where the hatred is

106 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:24:28pm

re: #104 prairiefire

Donna Summer

[Embedded content]

107 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:24:46pm

Srsly.. whys is WUB not here? I though Windsagio has been posting occationally.

What's WUB's Twitter?

108 geoduck  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:30:33pm

re: #102 RadicalModerate

Yes, it's really a Chinese woman, playing French accordion music. In New Zealand.

Here's my favorite culture clash.

109 Joanne  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:31:28pm

re: #8 freetoken

In supposedly "blue" Washington state, the Democratic party candidate eeks out a victory:

MCKENNA CONCEDES WASHINGTON STATE GOVERNOR'S RACE

The ads were brutal. The GOPer called him every name in the book but for human. I don't know if any of it was true but those ads were seriously negative against him.

110 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:32:22pm

re: #91 RadicalModerate

It still amazes me that some of the frontmen of the early-mid 1980s punk movement were so politically insightful, particularly the ones who didn't engage in self-destructive behavior.

I hear you. I still dearly love X - John Doe & Exene Cervenka? Best punk band evah. Husker Du came close. Clash near them. DK's & many others shortly there after. But X? "Hey baby, it's the fourth of july..."

111 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:33:36pm

re: #110 William Barnett-Lewis

I hear you. I still dearly love X - John Doe & Exene Cervenka? Best punk band evah. Husker Du came close. Clash near them. DK's & many others shortly there after. But X? "Hey baby, it's the fourth of july..."

Floral saw X play Live, several times.

112 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:34:11pm

re: #22 Decatur Deb

Nor I, but when you're caught with your short arm out, you take the yuks.

True that. But while I hold no ill will towards the man, in my eyes he compromised his integrity and his honesty. He needs to make amends for that.

113 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:34:54pm

See how we are?

114 geoduck  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:39:14pm

re: #109 Joanne

The ads were brutal. The GOPer called him every name in the book but for human. I don't know if any of it was true but those ads were seriously negative against him.

Washington isn't a blue state in as much as the Seattle area is a very blue metroplex. Especially east of the Cascades, it's deep red. And so even though the Dems have won, what, seven times in a row, it's seldom if ever been a blowout. The GOPer this time, McKenna, made a special long-term effort to appear moderate and reasonable, but then as Attorney General he jumped on the anti-Obamacare lawsuit bandwagon, against the wishes of every other elected official in the state. Might have cost him his chance at the big seat.

115 BongCrodny  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:39:39pm

re: #110 William Barnett-Lewis

"Hey baby, it's the fourth of july..."

You should listen to the guy who wrote that song. :-)

116 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:39:52pm

I'm officially blowing up this thread now. I give you accordion remixes:

System of a Down: Chop Suey

117 Talking Point Detective  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:41:16pm

Wow - just saw something about this on MSNBC.

The racist social-media comments that greeted Barack Obama’s re-election on Tuesday ran the gamut from the ignorant to the hateful. Now a group of academics at the Floating Sheep blog has taken some of the worst statements on Twitter — which the group calls “some of the nastiest tweets you might possibly imagine” — and projected them onto a map of the U.S. The result? Nine of the 10 worst states, by number of racist comments, went to Republican candidate Mitt Romney in the Nov. 6 election.

Read more: [Link: newsfeed.time.com...]


[Link: newsfeed.time.com...]

118 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:42:03pm

re: #115 BongGhazi

You should listen to the guy who wrote that song. :-)

I have. I still like John singing it better :)

119 Kronocide  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:42:08pm

Queen: Bohemian Rhapsody

120 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:42:54pm

re: #98 Gus

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121 BongCrodny  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:46:09pm

re: #118 William Barnett-Lewis

I have. I still like John singing it better :)

My tastes lean more towards roots rock, so I prefer Dave Alvin's version -- but I confess to playing the living hell out of "Under The Big Black Sun" during my years as a college station DJ.

For a while X's version of "Breathless" made it on almost every compilation tape I made.

122 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:46:42pm

re: #116 KronoGhazi

I'm officially blowing up this thread now. I give you accordion remixes:

System of a Down: Chop Suey

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Good shit there.

123 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:48:09pm

re: #119 KronoGhazi

Queen: Bohemian Rhapsody

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I'll see that one and raise:

124 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:51:51pm

re: #121 BongGhazi

My tastes lean more towards roots rock, so I prefer Dave Alvin's version -- but I confess to playing the living hell out of "Under The Big Black Sun" during my years as a college station DJ.

For a while X's version of "Breathless" made it on almost every compilation tape I made.

I can dig it.

You'll probably get this - I po'd John Doe once when I told him I liked their cover of "All or Nothing" on the Ain't Love Grand? LP... ;)

The Boss has come to really love their early stuff and I'm trying to get her to check out the Knitters...

125 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:53:00pm

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

I'll see that one and raise:

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Good BoC, though if I'm in the mood to drop them like a bomb, I'd go with Astronomy.

126 BongCrodny  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:54:39pm

re: #121 BongGhazi

My tastes lean more towards roots rock, so I prefer Dave Alvin's version -- but I confess to playing the living hell out of "Under The Big Black Sun" during my years as a college station DJ.

For a while X's version of "Breathless" made it on almost every compilation tape I made.

Heh. I see I got my memory discombobulated. "Breathless" was on the "More Fun In The New World" album.

I am so fucking old.

127 Gus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:55:21pm
128 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:57:58pm

re: #111 prairiefire

Floral saw X play Live, several times.

Giggles. Was friends with one of the Bangles, too!

129 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:58:21pm

re: #126 BongGhazi

You and me both brother. I've caught them 3 times live now and all three are in my top 10 concerts though. Only Patti Smith & Paul Westerberg come close :)

130 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 8:58:21pm

re: #128 Dancing along the light of day

Giggles. Was friends with one of the Bangles, too!

You so cool, girl.

131 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:00:07pm

re: #130 prairiefire

My very first concert had Aerosmith as the opening act for Jeff Beck. I was deaf for WEEKS!

132 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:01:47pm

re: #127 Gus

It's a great song too. Punk in a real way that I'm not sure Simon realized he was channeling. Certainly their 2nd finest track.

133 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:01:59pm

My Dad has asserted that Ted Nugent did something to a lady onstage.

Is he correct? I am not that familiar with that piece of pond scum.

134 BongCrodny  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:03:57pm

re: #124 William Barnett-Lewis

The Boss has come to really love their early stuff and I'm trying to get her to check out the Knitters...

Holy cow. I bought that album.

135 BongCrodny  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:07:49pm

re: #129 William Barnett-Lewis

You and me both brother. I've caught them 3 times live now and all three are in my top 10 concerts though. Only Patti Smith & Paul Westerberg come close :)

I would have loved to have seen The Replacements.

One of the few bands I never saw that I really regret missing.

136 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:07:59pm

re: #124 William Barnett-Lewis

Because!

137 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:11:45pm

re: #133 ProGunLiberal

My Dad has asserted that Ted Nugent did something to a lady onstage.

Is he correct? I am not that familiar with that piece of pond scum.

No, I think that's untrue. Ted Nugent is a douche canoe, but he hasn't strayed since he got married. I've never heard of him abusing any woman physically.

138 Lidane  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:12:49pm

One of the greatest bands ever:

139 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:13:36pm

re: #136 Dancing along the light of day

Because!

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140 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:14:06pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

No, I think that's untrue. Ted Nugent is a douche canoe, but he hasn't strayed since he got married. I've never heard of him abusing any woman physically.

Considering how I'd love an excuse to slander this scumbag, I have to, unfortunately, agree with DF. I will give that bastard a white feather someday,in honor of his messing his pants, if the good lord is willing.

141 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:16:06pm

re: #138 Lidane

One of the greatest bands ever:

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Oy, I can only wish I knew. One of my best unseen bands.

142 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:16:30pm

re: #140 William Barnett-Lewis

White Feather?

Though, looking up more statements from Nugent, he is a low class thug.

143 Kragar  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:17:09pm

re: #2 Lidane

Paging Kragar:

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I approve.

144 prairiefire  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:20:21pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

No, I think that's untrue. Ted Nugent is a douche canoe, but he hasn't strayed since he got married. I've never heard of him abusing any woman physically.

He's got an out of wedlock kid he did not acknowledge for a long time ~[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

145 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:20:31pm

Idiot woman Tweets that she hopes President Obama is assassinated, gets canned from job, gets investigated by the Secret Service.

146 Lidane  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:20:55pm

re: #141 William Barnett-Lewis

Oy, I can only wish I knew. One of my best unseen bands.

I never got to see them either. They're one of my favorites, though.

Saw these guys at Lollapalooza in '92. Great show:

147 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:21:22pm

re: #139 Dark_Falcon

I used to like Petty. Still do but not nearly as much. See, the last big tour the Repacements did was with him and he stole their best line for his song Into the great wide open.

148 nemus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:22:26pm

Speaking of bands, if anyone is interested, Axl Rose's current version of Guns n' Roses are doing a live broadcast from a concert they're doing in Vegas this evening / early AM (2 AM EST) - its going to be carried on SiriusXM's "Ozzy's Boneyard" channel.

On Nugent - he's a dweeb of the highest order who is too much of coward to be either dead or in jail by, when was it again? April of 2013? Anti-American traitorous, seditionist piece of malarkey.

149 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:22:33pm

re: #142 ProGunLiberal

White Feather?

Though, looking up more statements from Nugent, he is a low class thug.

Handing a man a white feather is a way to call him a coward.

150 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:23:12pm

re: #147 William Barnett-Lewis

I used to like Petty. Still do but not nearly as much. See, the last big tour the Repacements did was with him and he stole their best line for his song Into the great wide open.

How'd he do that?

151 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:23:28pm

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

Ah, good to see an update on that story.

Last I heard, she had lost her job. Now, her life is essentially over. Many people will recoil from her, won't find someone to be an significant other, and will probably never find a job again.

I am satisfied.

152 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:23:38pm

re: #142 ProGunLiberal

White Feather?

Though, looking up more statements from Nugent, he is a low class thug.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

A white feather has been a traditional symbol of cowardice, used and recognized especially within the British Army and in countries associated with the British Empire since the 18th century.

153 nemus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:24:20pm

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

Idiot woman Tweets that she hopes President Obama is assassinated, gets canned from job, gets investigated by the Secret Service.

Insert Nelson "HA HA" picture here. Seriously, what genius thinks "Hey I'll go on Facebook which has my real name and probably some of my co-workers on my friend's list and spout off nonsense that is potentially a Class D Felony.. that sounds.. bright"

154 sagehen  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:27:02pm

On "Real Time" tonight, S.E. Cupp explained why Republican senate candidates did so poorly this election:

"They don't understand that microphones carry sound. That if you speak into them, people will hear you."

155 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:27:04pm

re: #153 nemus

Insert Nelson "HA HA" picture here. Seriously, what genius thinks "Hey I'll go on Facebook which has my real name and probably some of my co-workers on my friend's list and spout off nonsense that is potentially a Class D Felony.. that sounds.. bright"

I've got no sympathy for someone who publicly calls a black man the n-word. She thinks its cool to treat Barack Obama like he's less than human? Fine, then fuck her sideways!

156 Lidane  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:28:09pm

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

Idiot woman Tweets that she hopes President Obama is assassinated, gets canned from job, gets investigated by the Secret Service.

157 BongCrodny  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:29:40pm

re: #147 William Barnett-Lewis

I used to like Petty. Still do but not nearly as much. See, the last big tour the Repacements did was with him and he stole their best line for his song Into the great wide open.

Ha! I was pissed off about that, too!

I've always considered myself a rebel without a clue.

158 nemus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:30:13pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

I've got no sympathy for someone who publicly calls a black man the n-word. She thinks its cool to treat Barack Obama like he's less than human? Fine, then fuck her sideways!

On this point, I agree wholeheartedly with you. However, I'd take it a step further - I have no sympathy for someone who uses the word privately, as well. Her life is pretty well screwed now and her foolishness brought it upon herself. que sera sera.

159 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:32:03pm

re: #152 William Barnett-Lewis

I prefer what Rassilon said in regards to the Time Lords against him in "The End of Time"

He had stated that the Time Lords who stood against him would

"stand as monuments to their shame, as did the Weeping Angels of old"

160 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:32:40pm

re: #157 BongGhazi

Ha! I was pissed off about that, too!

I've always considered myself a rebel without a clue.

Amen.

161 Lidane  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:32:43pm

re: #154 sagehen

On "Real Time" tonight, S.E. Cupp explained why Republican senate candidates did so poorly this election:

"They don't understand that microphones carry sound. That if you speak into them, people will hear you."

162 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:35:10pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

DF, here's my thoughts on them...

163 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:35:43pm

re: #158 nemus

On this point, I agree wholeheartedly with you. However, I'd take it a step further - I have no sympathy for someone who uses the word privately, as well. Her life is pretty well screwed now and her foolishness brought it upon herself. que sera sera.

Not disagreeing, but if someone says it privately to me, and the target of the hate hasn't heard about the slur yet, then I'll try to talk them down from their foolishness and try to get them to see why they were wrong. I've only had to do this once, but I was successful in at least convincing the person that overt racism was unacceptable.

But once some has publicly spewed hate as this woman did, the hammer has to come all the way down. You can't let haters hurt people and then not hammer them.

164 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:37:32pm

The last episode of the half-Season of Doctor Who made me tear up. It was real sad.

165 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:38:43pm

re: #147 William Barnett-Lewis

I used to like Petty. Still do but not nearly as much. See, the last big tour the Repacements did was with him and he stole their best line for his song Into the great wide open.

Traveling Wilburys!
Petty, Orbison, Dylan, Harrison, and Lynne, I love their stuff because you could tell they were just having a blast doing it, it wasn't big money it was just a jamming lark. Silly folksy songs with a great beat, what was not to like?

166 Four More Beers  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:40:04pm

From Genesis. Let us pray...

1:3 - And Nate Silver said, Let there be math; and there was math.
1:4 - And Nate Silver saw the math, and it was good; and Nate Silver divided the math from the darkness of idiot commentators on Fox News.

167 sagehen  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:40:33pm

re: #164 ProGunLiberal

The last episode of the half-Season of Doctor Who made me tear up. It was real sad.

maybe this will make you feel better:

[Link: www.tor.com...]

168 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:44:10pm

re: #167 sagehen

Of course, I know hope the Doctor will deal with Weeping Angels in this manner.

169 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:44:36pm

re: #162 William Barnett-Lewis

DF, here's my thoughts on them...

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All I've got is this:

170 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:45:24pm

re: #167 sagehen

maybe this will make you feel better:

[Link: www.tor.com...]

OY!!!

171 BongCrodny  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:48:49pm

re: #164 ProGunLiberal

The last episode of the half-Season of Doctor Who made me tear up. It was real sad.

Yeah. Sad that we'll never get to hear "Come along, Pond" again.

172 Digital Display  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:49:37pm

Tonight really sucks.. My heart is broken..
I went to the Lodge tonight to have a great time..I love lodges when it is a private club with Ball room, Karoake and huge bar. I dance with old ladies who teach me the 2 step..A bunch of us guys will sing you've lost that loving feeling like in Top Gun..It's awesome fun..I love me some Okies.
My buddy came in destroyed crying for help...
His 20 year old son was killed in a gunfight in OKC last night. We are doing a wake Monday night.. But my heart is empty..I hate seeing the loss in my friends eyes. He is broken.. Geez. We took him home trashed and took his truck home.

173 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:51:16pm

re: #171 BongGhazi

Yep. Not to mention I got attached to Rory and Amy. Especially the second one.

Rory was awesome though. Protects and waits for his wife for 2000 years. That is very cool.

174 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:51:19pm

re: #172 Digital Display

May the good one have mercy on you all, Hoops.

175 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:51:55pm

re: #172 Digital Display

:'(

No words.

176 sagehen  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:54:29pm

re: #172 Digital Display

{{{}}}

177 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:55:02pm

re: #172 Digital Display

Tonight really sucks.. My heart is broken..
I went to the Lodge tonight to have a great time..I love lodges when it is a private club with Ball room, Karoake and huge bar. I dance with old ladies who teach me the 2 step..A bunch of us guys will sing you've lost that loving feeling like in Top Gun..It's awesome fun..I love me some Okies.
My buddy came in destroyed crying for help...
His 20 year old son was killed in a gunfight in OKC last night. We are doing a wake Monday night.. But my heart is empty..I hate seeing the loss in my friends eyes. He is broken.. Geez. We took him home trashed and took his truck home.

I'm sorry that happened Hoops.

178 sagehen  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:56:31pm

re: #173 ProGunLiberal

Yep. Not to mention I got attached to Rory and Amy. Especially the second one.

Rory was awesome though. Protects and waits for his wife for 2000 years. That is very cool.

My favorite Rory character moment was the teenage flashback in "Let's Kill Hitler"... finding out that he'd been in love with her since they were tiny and just stuck with her every minute of every day until she finally realized.

179 Kragar  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:57:40pm

re: #178 sagehen

My favorite Rory character moment was the teenage flashback in "Let's Kill Hitler"... finding out that he'd been in love with her since they were tiny and just stuck with her every minute of every day until she finally realized.

180 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 9:58:28pm

re: #172 Digital Display

A big hug for you, and a REALLY long, hard hug for your friend. Yes, that long.

You can call & hand the phone to your buddy, if it would help.

181 Digital Display  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:00:01pm

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

I'm sorry that happened Hoops.

I'm in shock..I'm reminded of Red in front of the parole board when he says I wish I could go back and talk to that 20 yr boy and talk some sense into him.

182 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:02:27pm

re: #178 sagehen

You forgot the two best moments from that episode.

1) Him punching Hitler.
2) Him putting Hitler in the Closet.

183 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:02:56pm

One of my favorite Wilburys tunes, probably because it never got any radio airtime that I know of...plus it has the added bonus of being a "true life" story of Petty lol.

184 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:03:37pm

re: #181 Digital Display

I'm in shock..I'm reminded of Red in front of the parole board when he says I wish I could go back and talk to that 20 yr boy and talk some sense into him.

Sadly, sometimes people make mistakes they don't get a chance to atone for or learn from. I'm sorry your friend's son was one such person. He deserved more of a chance, I'm sure.

185 Kragar  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:04:43pm

Is this the oldest d20 on Earth?

Romans may have used 20-Sided die almost two millennia before D&D, but people in ancient Egypt were casting icosahedra even earlier. Pictured above is a twenty-faced die dating from somewhere between 304 and 30 B.C., a timespan also known as Egypt's Ptolemaic Period.

Image: original.jpg

186 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:05:01pm

re: #183 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Roy Orbison was a very excellent man. I never met anyone nicer!

187 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:09:00pm

re: #172 Digital Display

Sad news, I hope your friend can pass through his grief in time and not carry too much of it's burden with him. The support of good friends certainly helps I have found, so if nothing else he has you there for him.

{{{{}}}}

188 Digital Display  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:14:55pm

re: #186 Dancing along the light of day

Roy Orbison was a very excellent man. I never met anyone nicer!

Hey you! So I'm going to send you some pics this Sunday. It's a huge Oklahoma feed. I've always said they could feed a small African nation..With left overs for all. It's stupid big. ( I think its the whole Texas thing here..)
:)

189 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:19:10pm

re: #188 Digital Display

Promises, promises!
:)

190 Four More Tears  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:22:31pm

Telling Abbie Bronco Bamma won

191 nemus  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:25:15pm

re: #190 Four More Tears

Telling Abbie Bronco Bamma won

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Cute kid - even if the parent totally put her up to making both videos, I think :)

Still - she's definitely outclassing Honey Boo-Boo, so there is that.

192 Four More Tears  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:27:17pm

re: #191 nemus

Cute kid - even if the parent totally put her up to making both videos, I think :)

Still - she's definitely outclassing Honey Boo-Boo, so there is that.

Obama seems to have the little girl vote all locked up.

193 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 10:37:16pm

Good Night, All.

194 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 11:41:19pm

Lol...this one is funny.

While we’re at it, I say we should quit letting the Scum fly over the fly-over states. Make the scum go around through their beloved Mexicans or their stupid socialist Canadians.

And make the lazy worthless socialist bastards grow their own damned food, too! Put up check points: No more produce trucks from the Free States into the Communist Pig States. QUIT FEEDING THE UNGRATEFUL LIBERAL IDIOTS!!!!!

195 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 11:45:33pm

Another Freeper conspiracy theory...

Even the old USSR had elections, but everybody knew what a charade they were.

I've been saying that for months. This entire election, since it's inception 3 years ago - was a Soviet-styled sham.

If folks understood history, they would recognize the fact that no Marxist once achieving power EVER loses that power, and "elections" are for nothing more than to create an illusion of 'choice' to placate the masses.

We've gone Soviet - and only now are lots of folks from our side willing to possibly consider that fact.

196 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 11:52:56pm

We can expect a lot more of this, more threats and even acts of violence. And when the government starts to crack down on the perpetrators, it will be offered up as proof that the government is out to disarm us, round us all up and put us into FEMA secularist-Islamist-progressive-LGBT-vegan-alternative energy reeducation camps.

197 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, Nov 9, 2012 11:55:47pm

In a thread about how Obama will unleash a Tsunami of regulations after the election (from RaptureReady)...

This is typical OB and LIB Democrats stalling on something that would be a big issue. I am not sure what impact it will have since Liberal Democrats do not believe anything that is factual. They are like false prophets who mix error with truth. They cannot take the whole truth (see below).

Ok, concerning the election. After having observed both sides of the issue and after reviewing the national polls for weeks I have concluded the following real data:

1) Democrats hate Fox news, Drudge and any other Conservative bent media outlet so they rarely listen to them and when they do they poo-poo everything said with false facts from the liberal media they do tune in too.
2) Republicans for the most part do the same as Democrats above except for one thing, most of their opposing arguments are backed up by the facts. The liberals however fudge, lie and purposely distort the facts.

That said the Dems are believing hook, line and sinker the distortions, therefore refusing to acknowledge the truth.

I thought this one was hugely ironic considering the subject and source.

198 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 12:04:13am

Moar Freeper conspiracy musings...

AND, because their belief system is in actuality, a religion, they have unending, multi-generational PATIENCE. Stalin, Kruschev, Mao and a whole host of others are dead and gone, but their religion grinds on and has achieved a MAJOR victory tonight.

This result is not due to this past year’s activities - it was set in motion back in the 50s, became a sophisticated underground war in the 60s and 70s and moved into the education system in the 70s and 80s. We are now seeing the US Society being controlled by the first generation that has been indoctrinated by those guys and it will only get worse from here on out.

Perhaps mankind REALLY is unworthy of the long term benefits of the country that was America.

199 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 12:07:23am

Germany was not worthy of National Socialism either, remember?

/

200 researchok  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 12:26:55am

Morning, all

201 Kragar  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 12:38:23am

re: #194 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Lol...this one is funny.

Does that mean we can cut them off from everything they get from the coasts?
/

202 freetoken  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 12:38:59am
203 Kragar  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 12:53:02am

"Yeah, we're completely self-sufficient here in the heart of real America. I'm so damn glad we cut our ties to those damn blue state liberals. Time to go and fire up the tractor. That's right, needed to get that fixed. Hey, Earl, you got the parts... What do you mean the supplier from Pennsylvania cut you off? Maybe I can just head over to Walmart and.. What do you mean they closed? Nobody could get in to restock them? DAMN YOU LIBERAL BASTARDS!"

204 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 12:54:57am

Whoa, very angry libertarian is very angry...

What I fuckin' hate are all these pussy conservatives like Sean Hannity now saying, "Aww, it ain't that bad. We will bounce back... American will turn to the right again... It's just one bad election."

Bull-fucking-shit! America died yesterday. It's over. There's no coming back.

236 years of history gone in one single day and night.

SPARE ME YOU'RE FUCKING GOOD TIDINGS YOU CONSERVATIVES. This is a castrophe for libertarians and conservatives. The worst of our lifetimes.

The Nazis and Communists have just seized control of the United States of America, and you fuckers are trying to convince me it ain't that bad!

205 researchok  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 12:55:48am

re: #202 freetoken

Beautiful.

Vocal, orchestral...has it all.

206 freetoken  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 12:58:51am

re: #204 watching you tiny alien kittens are

" Nazis and Communists" have simultaneously seized control of the US?

That's some accomplishment.

207 Kragar  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 1:01:17am

re: #206 freetoken

" Nazis and Communists" have simultaneously seized control of the US?

That's some accomplishment.

Thats almost as bad as the Radical Muslims/Atheist/Homosexual Trinity taking over. You know how coordinated those guys are.

208 researchok  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 1:06:02am

Why I know Obama is, when all is said and done, more of a a centrist.

What the Obamaphile Press Omitted From Its Endorsements

Some liberal critics put ideology ahead of reality.

How can you criticize Obama on national security? That's just crazy.

209 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 1:10:45am

re: #203 Kragar

"Yeah, we're completely self-sufficient here in the heart of real America. I'm so damn glad we cut our ties to those damn blue state liberals. Time to go and fire up the tractor. That's right, needed to get that fixed. Hey, Earl, you got the parts... What do you mean the supplier from Pennsylvania cut you off? Maybe I can just head over to Walmart and.. What do you mean they closed? Nobody could get in to restock them? DAMN YOU LIBERAL BASTARDS!"

I was just reading one where the guy was saying that we needed to cut off trade with the socialists in China and Canada and start trading with Mexico. He wanted to keep our money from flowing to the socialists that were helping to subvert the country. I really had to fight to resist posting back to him with the fact that China is Communist, NAFTA duh, and Mexico already be a large trading partner.

Still can't figure out how he thinks Canada is a socialist threat to the US but whatever. Just another self-proclaimed "internet expert" on the economy and "socialism" even though he doesn't even know we trade with Mexico already and doesn't know the difference between communism and socialism. Becoming pretty common these days I am afraid. :(

210 Kragar  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 1:18:41am

To all Wingnuts planning to leave the US, here is a map to help. Due to your self confessed hatred of any sort of national healthcare, you can pick any gray coded country you like, blue and green coded countries are right out. Good luck.

Image: healthcareworldbig1.jpg

211 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 1:22:00am

re: #208 researchok

Why I know Obama is, when all is said and done, more of a a centrist.

What the Obamaphile Press Omitted From Its Endorsements

Some liberal critics put ideology ahead of reality.

How can you criticize Obama on national security? That's just crazy.

You can't make a terrorist omelet without breaking a few 16 year olds...

///I am going to hell for that

212 researchok  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 1:24:08am

re: #211 watching you tiny alien kittens are

You can't make a terrorist omelet without breaking a few 16 year olds...

///I am going to hell for that

Might I suggest a helmet.

Seriously, Obama makes decisions based on information we don't have- or need to have.

You either trust him or you don't.

On national security there is no reason not to trust him

213 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 1:26:23am

re: #210 Kragar

To all Wingnuts planning to leave the US, here is a map to help. Due to your self confessed hatred of any sort of national healthcare, you can pick any gray coded country you like, blue and green coded countries are right out. Good luck.

Image: healthcareworldbig1.jpg

Hey how come Iraq and Afghanistan are getting free healthcare on our tax dollars! Who is responsible for this? Why don't they have private insurance and a free market economy over there by now?

214 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 2:01:37am

re: #213 watching you tiny alien kittens are

People are suckers for free stuff from the government...makes them pliable.

215 freetoken  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 2:35:37am

Let's make a deal! (Loved the original version of Hall's game show.)

So, you don't like Christmas music - well, good news, you get to pick! Behind each door is a piece of music - one with a well known female singer, one with a well known male singer, and one full orchestral with guitar, but only one of them is a Christmas song.

Choose your door. Your fate is in your mouse-clicking hand:

Door #1:

Door #2:

Door #3:

216 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 2:42:49am

A prediction by a poster at FoxNation...

Think about this....95% of all pollsters came to the generally same conclusion...Obama was going to lose. Now we see the results were all WRONG...except for ONE of the pollsters in BO'S camp? In fact...ALL.the pollsters were wrong BIG TIME. THERE IS SOMETHING VERY WRONG WITH THE OUTCOME OF THIS ELECTION.....IT'S TOO BIG AND IT'S TOO 'CLEAN'. The EXACT states that BO needed ALL fell into his column? Obama telling the public BEFORE HAND to "Not panic" when they see the first states to be reported with exit polling? He needs to explain how he knew BEFOREHAND that was going to happen. THIS WHOLE ELECTION WREAKS OF VOTER FRAUD! There WILL BE investigations into this....there WILL be continued investigations into Benghazi....there WILL be continued investigations into all kinds of 'questionable' dealings by the Obama administration. I predict right here and now.................IMPEACHMENT of the OBAMA-Biden ticket this next summer on SEVERAL counts...one of which is voter fraud. There will be lots of people going to prison. COUNT ON IT!! Conservatives/republicans will get the last laugh on this one!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep your eyes open everybody....the evidence will get exposed by Mid-April!

Firstly since we have a majority in the Senate an impeachment is impossible unless they had something resembling a real charge. Secondly, look at the bright side, at least we don't have to wait all that long to see if he is right or not.

///

Oh yeah...BENGHAZI!!!!!!

217 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 2:45:18am

re: #215 freetoken

I picked the one on the left...not Christmasy

/

218 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 2:45:59am

Almost all the pollsters were wrong so the election was a fraud? The logic is impeccable:

Almost all the weathermen said it would be sunny SO IT CANNOT BE RAINING RIGHT NOW!!! Obama seeded the clouds!!!

220 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 3:03:06am

re: #219 Varek Raith

Researchers Find Fracking Might Cause Earthquakes After All

Only if your doing it with the right partner...

///

221 Tigger2  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 3:20:05am

re: #77 Gus

Brooks & Dunn - Only In America

[Embedded content]

West Side Story--America
Freepers worst nightmare Puerto Ricans America.


222 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 3:28:38am

Obama should serve as living proof for conservatives to demonstrate that the American Dream can work: anyone, even from a non-priveleged background, can rise through hard work to the highest office in the land regardless of their race or gender.

It is a monument to their pig-eyed bigotry that they cannot accept at least that aspect of Barack Hussein Obama.

Instead they have to insist that he is an affirmative-action baby, a usurper, a Manchurian candidate, stealth Jihadist, elitist and of course, beneficiary of voter fraud on a grand and unheard-of scale.

It has come back to haunt them: only a minority of bone-headed bigots buy into that naarative. Most of the rest of us, even those who do not agree with Obama's policies, find him a decent and admirable person.

223 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 4:11:36am

Freepers pen an open Letter to Her Majesty Elizabeth II Queen of the United Kingdom.

Your Majesty,

We, the people of the former American colonies, would like to offer our most sincere apology over that little misunderstanding we had 236 years ago. Had we known that we were going to be subjects anyway, we could have saved a lot of trouble and hard feelings.

We were under the mistaken belief that we would be free, sovereign citizens; we believed that our hard work would yield its own rewards without someone coming along and taking what we built in the name of “Fairness”. We thought our laws and Constitution would protect us from a foreign born dictator, and our freedom to worship would prevent us from becoming a corrupt, morally bankrupt society (silly us).

Little did we know that our own free press would intentionally sabotage, deceive and withhold the truth from us in order to reelect a Socialist that still holds distain for our nation and contempt for its founding principles. Nor did we believe that there would be so many citizens dependent on government handouts that they would blindly elect an unqualified charlatan, let alone reelect him.

Anyway, Your Grace, we are truly sorry and humbly sincerely beg your forgiveness. If you can find it in your heart to forgive us and take us back, we promise never to trade British oppression for Socialist tyranny again.

Your most humble servants,

The American People

Ok, so it is tongue-in-cheek, but this is still as stupid as the girl who wanted to move to Australia. England does not have a free press (official secrets act censorship), they have hate speech laws, nationalized medicine, the taxes are more than double (not by rate but effective) ours, handguns and semi-automatic rifles are banned, long guns and shotguns require special permitting and membership in a shooting club, gasoline costs nearly three times as much, and unemployment is higher.

You guys go if you want but you need to renounce your citizenship and turn in your passports when you leave. :p

224 Obdicut  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 4:17:53am

re: #223 watching you tiny alien kittens are

It's so freaking weird. I mean, I know that these sort of silly billies tend to live in a fantasy world, but it just looks pathetic. Rush saying he'll go to Costa Rica if ACA passes-- Costa Rica, which has full health insurance. This dude saying he'll go to the UK. I mean, this same fucker probably uses the NIH as an example of why socialized medicine is bad.

It's compartmentalization gone wild. I've also seen people, in the same breath, condemn Obama for being duplicitous and then congratulate Romney on 'baffling' the mainstream media by changing his positions.

Yet these people manage to get through the day. I know we like to hypothesize they're on disability or in their mom's basement, but the awful truth is there's plenty of people out there capable of doing their jobs intelligently and well and yet, when they encounter politics, turning into conspiracy-theory science denying lunatics. I have an old boss who's that way. He was a great boss, he was on the side of the guys on his team, he treated us well and he was reasonable and helped guys with their careers, but he thinks global warming is a conspiracy.

The thing is, if I told him, "I think that every solar physicist on earth is engaged in a grand conspiracy" he'd laugh at me and tell me to stop being a weirdo. And yet he believes all the climate scientists are in a conspiracy.

It's sad.

225 Tigger2  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 4:20:19am

re: #223 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Freepers pen an open Letter to Her Majesty Elizabeth II Queen of the United Kingdom.

Ok, so it is tongue-in-cheek, but this is still as stupid as the girl who wanted to move to Australia. England does not have a free press (official secrets act censorship), they have hate speech laws, nationalized medicine, the taxes are more than double (not by rate but effective) ours, handguns and semi-automatic rifles are banned, long guns and shotguns require special permitting and membership in a shooting club, gasoline costs nearly three times as much, and unemployment is higher.

You guys go if you want but you need to renounce your citizenship and turn in your passports when you leave. :p

The only place they would really feel free of Gov interference would be, Planes and Ships leaving every 12 hrs, Wingnuts enjoy yourselves.
Somalia that way------------------------------------------>

226 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:04:56am

re: #224 Obdicut

They have their own news, with their own "facts," and most of them hardly ever step outside the bubble. They start the day with Fox, move on to talk radio during the commute and at work and then come home to Drudge, Freep, Ace, Breitbart, etc, and a second and maybe third helping of Fox. Most of the news they get has a severe slant to it at the least and some of it is completely fabricated.

Ever wonder why all of them constantly employee so many guest hosts, guest writers, and consultants? It is because those people can outright lie with impunity, they can make up facts and figures out of thin air. If an uproar occurs over incorrect information then the network just shrugs and says "well that was just the guests opinion."

They cynically manipulate their own audience to induce outrage and interest to drive up their own ratings and profits. At the same time they drone on many times a day about how incorrect and partisan all other sources of news are and tell their audience that only they can be trusted. When someone pulls the Magical balance fairy out and says "well your side does it too" ask yourself when the was the last time you ever heard ABC, CNN, CBS, or NBC claim to be the only station with the truth? When did they ever tell you not to trust what you heard anywhere else?

Meanwhile our poor "conservative entertainment media" (NOT NEWS!) consumer gets his or her daily dose of brainwashing while being purposefully misinformed about the world outside their window. It boggles the mind, where did all the utterly and completely fabricated stories about Benghazi come from over the last two months? As soon as one uproar started to cool they just pulled another one out of their hat. Like the story based completely on hearsay in a students forum post that made it all the way to the Washington times.

Who fed these people all of stories about Romney's upcoming landslide victory, who "unskewed" the polls and spoon-fed them to a captive audience? Who brings people like Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, and Bryan Fischer on to their programs to spew hatred, racism, bigotry, and more made up facts and statistics than you can shake a stick at?

I read "our" sites, "their" sites, purely informational sites with no ideology, and pretty much anything else I can find that interests me. I'm not afraid of becoming "infected" with bad information or ideology because I use my head and the available resources to check and verify things before I swallow them whole. I wish there was a way to get the consumers of Right Wing misinformation to do the same.

227 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:07:40am

What's going on? Intrade is pimping the Oscars. Where's Ohio? 538 hasn't updated in 72 hours. Where's the fucking numbers?

228 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:07:56am

I originally came to this site back when it was a lot more conservative because I found that it was nonetheless outside the Bubble and presented fact-based and consistent arguments.

Funny to see where life outside the Bubble has led this site...

229 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:11:36am

re: #228 Sol Berdinowitz

I originally came to this site back when it was a lot more conservative because I found that it was nonetheless outside the Bubble and presented fact-based and consistent arguments.

Funny to see where life outside the Bubble has led this site...

I joined for the boob-pun threads.

230 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:15:52am

re: #227 Decatur Deb

What's going on? Intrade is pimping the Oscars. Where's Ohio? 538 hasn't updated in 72 hours. Where's the fucking numbers?

You can get the numbers from Ohio SoS here but you need to have Excel to open them...

[Link: www.sos.state.oh.us...]

231 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:17:08am

re: #230 watching you tiny alien kittens are

You can get the numbers from Ohio SoS here but you need to have Excel to open them...

[Link: www.sos.state.oh.us...]

(That was my junkie script. Now you know why I don't write gritty urban drama.)

232 A Mom Anon  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:18:34am

re: #226 watching you tiny alien kittens are

It's going to be difficult because at the very heart of all this is Fear. There are a fair number of people who are just scared to death and it wasn't that hard to do it because of,IMO,two things:

1)9/11/01. I live in a very conservative area,but before 9/11 you could talk to conservatives and find common ground. Here in GA,in less than two months after that day,the local GOP(with help from Ralph Fucking Reed and Newt)began sowing seeds of hatred and mistrust. Those ads against Max Cleland were a drop in the bucket. It's become insanely ridiculous now. I wish more than almost anything I could come up with a way to fight this,but I have no clue.

2)The financial crisis. Starting in 2008,lots of people began losing their jobs and homes. Fear. As that situation worsened,it was easy to take advantage of their fear and uncertainty.

Fox and the GOP,Rush,Ingraham,Boortz,Beck,the whole lot of 'em,know precisely what they're doing. They've been allowed to do all this unchallenged(for all practical purposes)for so long I am not sure how to begin undoing the damage. THIS is what I have a very difficult time forgiving the right wing for. This shit has destroyed families and communities,and that makes us weaker as a country. We are really nothing without each other,that U in USA is supposed to be what makes us "exceptional". We are too strong to be torn apart from the outside,but no nation is too strong to keep from being destroyed from within. If this shit keeps up,that's where we're headed.

233 Honorary Consul General  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:22:00am

Morning Honcos.

234 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:24:21am

re: #232 A Mom Anon

...snip.. now. I wish more than almost anything I could come up with a way to fight this,but I have no clue..... I am not sure how to begin undoing the damage...

One rational conversation at a time. Focus on the children.

235 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:25:00am

Good Morning.

236 Obdicut  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:30:43am

Okay. Going to go do volunteer work in Redhook. People there are still hurting pretty bad. Let's see if there's as many volunteers as there was a week ago.

237 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:31:22am

re: #223 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Oh by the way those "freepers" should learn that her title is "Your Majesty" not "Your Grace." Silly people.

238 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:31:42am

re: #229 Decatur Deb

I joined for the boob-pun threads.

I came for the stimulating arguments, stayed for the pun threads...

239 Honorary Consul General  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:33:19am

re: #238 Sol Berdinowitz

I came for the stimulating arguments, stayed for the pun threads...

I joined because I ran out of people to piss off in real life. Figured cyber space had more.:)

240 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:33:44am

re: #232 A Mom Anon

This was the thing that the GOP leadership failed to do and which cost them the election: they failed to call out the bigots and birthers, the dog-whistlers and fearmongers and tell them to put a lid on it and concentrate on a positive message.

It came and bit them in the butt big-time and they will be years getting out of the wilderness until they shake these goons, unless it is truly to late to do so.

241 Honorary Consul General  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:37:41am

What. The. Fuck?
St. Petersburg man accused of molesting 4-year-old
Christian Alexander Molina, of St. Petersburg, was seen touching the girl over her clothing while she sat on his lap, an arrest affidavit shows. Molina later admitted to officers that he did touch the child.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]

242 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:39:23am

re: #240 Sol Berdinowitz

This was the thing that the GOP leadership failed to do and which cost them the election: they failed to call out the bigots and birthers, the dog-whistlers and fearmongers and tell them to put a lid on it and concentrate on a positive message.

It came and bit them in the butt gib-time and they will be years getting out of the wilderness until they shake these goons, unless it is truly to late to do so.

How do they tell a bunch of businesses to stop making money from misleading and exploiting their people? Short of the GOP calling them out on lies a dozen times a day how would they? Also notice that now the base is already mistrusting the "GOP Elites" who "Saddled them with Romney instead of a real conservative."

I don't think the GOP leadership has enough credibility left to call out the outrage peddlers, I think the base would just turn on them and then go back to listening to Bill-O.

243 Tigger2  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:41:22am

re: #240 Sol Berdinowitz

This was the thing that the GOP leadership failed to do and which cost them the election: they failed to call out the bigots and birthers, the dog-whistlers and fearmongers and tell them to put a lid on it and concentrate on a positive message.

It came and bit them in the butt big-time and they will be years getting out of the wilderness until they shake these goons, unless it is truly to late to do so.

And it will happen again and again not only because of the things you listed but because the base has had hate for others not like themselves drummed into their heads for years by the likes of Fox and Rightwing Radio, and they will not change any time soon.

244 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:45:29am

re: #242 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Which brings up another question, does the GOP really even have a leadership right now? From what I have been reading in their comments even Boehner and Priebus are pretty unpopular right now since floating the immigration reform trial balloon.

245 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 5:46:42am

We forget that Fox and EIB are business propositions: they sell advertising time. To do so, they need to appeal to a target audience, which they win over by feeding them the sort of ideology they want to hear.

This tends to support the GOP cause in the short run, and in local elections, but has damaged them massively on a national level.

246 darthstar  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:07:06am

re: #245 Sol Berdinowitz

We forget that Fox and EIB are business propositions: they sell advertising time. To do so, they need to appeal to a target audience, which they win over by feeding them the sort of ideology they want to hear.

This tends to support the GOP cause in the short run, and in local elections, but has damaged them massively on a national level.

Fox doesn't have a target audience, they have a finely groomed and cultivated audience - one that is loyal to them regardless of the shit they spew. Richard Murdock designed it that way. It has always been a mix of eye-candy (their largely blonde spokesmodels), conservative talking points, and reassurance that any other point of view isn't just wrong, it's dangerous--fear is their most prevalent product. My parents, my brothers, all watch it exclusively because it reassures them that the GOP is right and somehow the Democratic party is trying to lead us to hell.

247 A Mom Anon  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:08:12am

re: #245 Sol Berdinowitz

I think though that some of the damage is leaking down to the local level. But,it's going to be awhile before a real change is seen. I just watched the local news and the first Korean American member of our state level government was just elected. He's a Republican. In his interview he stated that the GOP has a branding problem. NO,he's wrong. They have a POLICY problem,their policies are based on being mean,stingy,resentful and a whole host of other negatives. They really need to consider what the word conservative actually means,not what their idiotic brand is.

But,Akin is gone and several more like him went buh-bye. It's going to take a long time due to fear and stubborness,but I think the next election cycle might start taking out more of the more radical right.it's going to happen on the federal level first,I think,but that isn't going to protect the local level offices. The real issue,IMO,is how to work past all the hate and fear that's been allowed to fester. Liberals and Democrats aren't going to be able to fix that alone,we're going to need sane conservatives to help us. How to form those coalitions is where I get stuck.

248 darthstar  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:08:27am

Mornin' everyone...it's good to be back at 7,000 feet. (Ski Patrol refresher weekend...with a foot of fresh snow on the ground, though we'll mostly be indoors practicing our first aid scenarios).

249 darthstar  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:11:17am

re: #247 A Mom Anon

In his interview he stated that the GOP has a branding problem. NO,he's wrong. They have a POLICY problem,their policies are based on being mean,stingy,resentful and a whole host of other negatives. They really need to consider what the word conservative actually means,not what their idiotic brand is.

Let's not forget it was Ann fucking Romney who said Latinos needed to "get over their biases"...and she was supposed to 'humanize' her husband and make him likeable. She came across about as warm as Nurse Ratchett herself.

250 Honorary Consul General  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:12:06am

re: #248 darthstar

Mornin' everyone...it's good to be back at 7,000 feet. (Ski Patrol refresher weekend...with a foot of fresh snow on the ground, though we'll mostly be indoors practicing our first aid scenarios).

I would get a nose bleed. Not sure what the 'above sea level' is here, but spent most of my life at 3.

251 Lidane  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:14:12am
252 Honorary Consul General  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:14:59am

Man, because of a basketball game, I only get an hour and a half of sports talk this morning. Crap.

253 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:15:11am

re: #250 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would get a nose bleed. Not sure what the 'above sea level' is here, but spent most of my life at 3.

I used to live at 7,000 feet (Flagstaff Arizona) used to go jogging regularly. Developed a massive lung capacity that has stuck with me even after moving to much lower (1,000 foor) elevation here in Germany.

254 African Moonbat  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:16:57am

re: #90 ProGunLiberal

After learning more about it, how in the hell did Iran fail to kill the MQ-1 Predator?

It has the top speed of my Honda Accord, and is about as manuverable as the Spruce Goose. Yes, they were using Su-25, the Soviet Fight-Bomber design. But even the A-10, which is much less suited to air-to-air attacks has killed air targets.

Nobody should be fearing Iran.

Perhaps because it does all of those things makes it difficult to shoot down. It would be unwise to underestimate Iran. Remember they were able to entice the latest drone to land in their territory.

255 darthstar  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:18:45am

Photo taken in British Columbia.

Ya think?

256 A Mom Anon  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:19:14am

re: #249 darthstar

I think the biggest obstacle that party faces is the lack of ability to admit mistakes,learn from them and then stop doubling down on the same old crap. Until they can do that,they're not going to recover in full.

Ann Romney could honestly be a great advocate for MS patients and their families,but she's too isolated and stingy to invoke compassion. I really tried to like her,but the more she was on my TV,like her husband,the less likable she became. Hopefully the Romneys will now just go roll in their piles of money and leave the rest of us alone to fix this mess we're in.

257 Honorary Consul General  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:20:01am

re: #255 darthstar

Photo taken in British Columbia.

Ya think?

"Come to pet the wildlife, leave with a stump"
/

258 Lidane  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:20:34am
259 Tigger2  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:27:33am

re: #256 A Mom Anon

I think the biggest obstacle that party faces is the lack of ability to admit mistakes,learn from them and then stop doubling down on the same old crap. Until they can do that,they're not going to recover in full.

It so easy to figure out.

It's Your Policies Stupid. "this is not directed and you it's directed at the GOP."

260 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:31:10am

re: #259 Tigger2

that was one part of the Ann Coulter article that really did apply...they have lost the ability to draw gradations on a line, it is all black and white to them: a zygote is a person, whether or not it was conceived through rape or incest, taxes are evil, even if they are needed to cover the cost of vital government services, illegal immigrants are criminals, even if they came here as minors with their parents, government regulation is restrictive to business, even if it promotes health and safety, etc...

Until they get beyond that, they will remain ideologically blindered and soon politically irrelevant.

261 Tigger2  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:32:23am

re: #260 Sol Berdinowitz

that was one part of the Ann Coulter article that really did apply...they have lost the ability to draw gradations on a line, it is all black and white to them: a zygote is a person, whether or not it was conceived through rape or incest, taxes are evil, even if they are needed to cover the cost of vital government services, illegal immigrants are criminals, even if they came here as minors with their parents, government regulation is restrictive to business, even if it promotes health and safety, etc...

Until they get beyond that, they will remain ideologically blindered and soon politically irrelevant.

I agree

262 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:32:39am

re: #260 Sol Berdinowitz

...snip
Until they get beyond that, they will remain ideologically blindered and soon politically irrelevant.

When they get beyond that they'll be centrist Democrats.

263 A Mom Anon  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:36:28am

re: #262 Decatur Deb

Pretty much,lol. I'd just like to see some sense. Hell,I'd even vote for a Republican who honestly gave a shit about actual governing. Not politics,governing.

264 Honorary Consul General  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:37:55am

re: #263 A Mom Anon

Pretty much,lol. I'd just like to see some sense. Hell,I'd even vote for a Republican who honestly gave a shit about actual governing. Not politics,governing.

I wonder if we have passed that threshold.

265 Lidane  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:39:55am
266 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:45:08am

Morning Lizardim.

267 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 6:59:50am

NOM vows to continue the battle to prevent and roll back marriage equality, swears losing in four states Nov. 6th twas but a fleshwound...

We narrowly lost in four deep blue states, after being badly outspent. Even though NOM contributed a record amount to help these state races—$5.5 million—our opponents were able to amass vast amounts of cash to drive their campaigns. They outspent us by $20 million, and that money helped them win narrow victories.

How close did we come? In Maine, we would have won if 18,000 voters had gone the other way. In Maryland, we lost by 94,000 votes out of 2.4 million cast. In Minnesota, about 100,000 votes out of 2.9 million cast. And in Washington, we lost by 83,000 votes out of 2.1 million ballots counted so far (final results there won't be known for days).

We always knew it would be a tough fight. These states are so liberal that they were never contested at the presidential level, except very late in Minnesota, resulting in blowout wins for Obama in each of the four states.

It's funny how the left and the media work. Can you imagine if marriage elections were held in Texas, Georgia, Alabama and South Carolina and gay marriage advocates had narrowly lost those fights after being outspent by $20 million? Do you think the media and the left would suggest that homosexual marriage advocates cut and run and give up the fight because they lost in those states? Of course not! If anything, they'd be congratulating them on a great showing.

Yet some advocates on the left and in the media are saying we've lost. It's preposterous!

One of the PR spins that our opponents are pushing is that somehow these votes signal that the country has changed their views about same-sex marriage. That is preposterous as well.

Don't listen to all those skewed polls and the actual votes that we just lost, almost everybody is still against same-sex marriage, anything else is just preposterous! (I really like that word preposterous, preposterous, just rolls off the tongue...oh, one more thing below.)

P.S. Send us more money next time you damn cheapskates!

///

268 Lidane  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:03:35am

re: #267 watching you tiny alien kittens are

NOM vows to continue the battle to prevent and roll back marriage equality, swears losing in four states Nov. 6th twas but a fleshwound...

They still need to explain how gay marriage affects the rights of straight people. Do straight couples suddenly lose all the rights and privileges that they had before gays could marry? No? Then what the fuck is the problem?

Personal discomfort with LGBT people is not a good enough reason to deny civil rights and equality.

269 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:04:13am

re: #267 watching you tiny alien kittens are

NOM vows to continue the battle to prevent and roll back marriage equality, swears losing in four states Nov. 6th twas but a fleshwound...

Don't listen to all those skewed polls and the actual votes that we just lost, almost everybody is still against same-sex marriage, anything else is just preposterous! (I really like that word preposterous, preposterous, just rolls off the tongue...oh, one more thing below.)

P.S. Send us more money next time you damn cheapskates!

a majority of the country has changed its views about gay marriage. Many people who do not approve of it morally do not see a reason to make it illegal.
They might think that drinking, gambling or consensual sex among unmarried persons is immoral, but don't see the point in making it illegal...

GRADATIONS ON A LINE, YOU MORONS!!!

270 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:08:53am

re: #267 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Oops, I mistaken used invisible sarc tags up there, glad I caught it before correction time ran out.

271 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:10:56am

re: #268 Lidane

They still need to explain how gay marriage affects the rights of straight people. Do straight couples suddenly lose all the rights and privileges that they had before gays could marry? No? Then what the fuck is the problem?

Personal discomfort with LGBT people is not a good enough reason to deny civil rights and equality.

They attempted to make such an explanation here in Minnesota. They talked about how the rights of anti-homosexual people in states that had approved gay marriage were being trampled on. What they were ACTUALLY talking about was popular backlash against their increasingly unpopular opinion. They even used Chick-Fil-A as a shining example of "consequences" for those who stood up against gay marriage. Um, what.

272 Lidane  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:11:31am

Heh. Awesome:

273 Lidane  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:13:11am

re: #271 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

They attempted to make such an explanation here in Minnesota. They talked about how the rights of anti-homosexual people in states that had approved gay marriage were being trampled on. What they were ACTUALLY talking about was popular backlash against their increasingly unpopular opinion. They even used Chick-Fil-A as a shining example of "consequences" for those who stood up against gay marriage. Um, what.

*headdesk*

And they wonder why they keep losing. Amazing.

274 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:18:01am

re: #268 Lidane

They still need to explain how gay marriage affects the rights of straight people. Do straight couples suddenly lose all the rights and privileges that they had before gays could marry? No? Then what the fuck is the problem?

Personal discomfort with LGBT people is not a good enough reason to deny civil rights and equality.

Because there is a storm coming...

NOM Parody 2

275 Lidane  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:21:23am

Using Obamacare didn't work! Maybe weed will do it!

276 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:27:14am

re: #273 Lidane

*headdesk*

And they wonder why they keep losing. Amazing.

Yeah, they just plain don't get how this stuff works. I literally had to turn the car radio off when that commercial came on, because the logical disconnect was so staggering.

277 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:38:21am

So I wake up and find that the CTers in the wingnut ranks have gone full retard. Matt Drudge's front page pretty much reads like an itemized list of all the theories as to why Petraeus' resignation is just "too convenient."

278 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:43:27am

Benghazi Petraeus!

279 Lidane  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:44:17am

re: #277 Targetpractice

So I wake up and find that the CTers in the wingnut ranks have gone full retard. Matt Drudge's front page pretty much reads like an itemized list of all the theories as to why Petraeus' resignation is just "too convenient."

In fairness, they went full retard back in 2008. Obama winning a second term has just upped the derp and fail by several orders of magnitude.

280 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:49:45am

re: #279 Lidane

In fairness, they went full retard back in 2008. Obama winning a second term has just upped the derp and fail by several orders of magnitude.

Orly Taitz has been especially entertaining of late. Of course, she had a full-on mental breakdown after getting the crap slapped out of her in court last week.

281 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:51:14am

Republicans have been fleeced, exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex...there are too many to name. Because the followers, the donors and the activists are so mistaken about the nature of the problems the country faces...just a simple question, and I went to Tea Party rallies and asked this question, have taxes gone up or down in recent years? They can't answer this question.
-- David Frum

282 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:51:28am

re: #280 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

Orly Taitz has been especially entertaining of late. Of course, she had a full-on mental breakdown after getting the crap slapped out of her in court last week.

Course, now what's she gonna do? Obama's been reelected and can't run again, obviating the need to worry over his birth certificate. Is she gonna keep tilting at that windmill, in hopes that she can somehow get the courts to overturn Obama's presidency?

283 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:52:34am

re: #282 Targetpractice

Course, now what's she gonna do? Obama's been reelected and can't run again, obviating the need to worry over his birth certificate. Is she gonna keep tilting at that windmill, in hopes that she can somehow get the courts to overturn Obama's presidency?

She's actually been saying recently that she's going to give it all up. Part of me wonders if she's going to make herself a martyr by going full derptard in court in an attempt to earn a contempt charge.

284 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:53:56am

re: #283 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

She's actually been saying recently that she's going to give it all up. Part of me wonders if she's going to make herself a martyr by going full derptard in court in an attempt to earn a contempt charge.

Surprised she hasn't been found in contempt yet. Judges apparently have far more patience than I.

285 BongCrodny  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:55:33am

re: #223 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Freepers pen an open Letter to Her Majesty Elizabeth II Queen of the United Kingdom.

If I might try my hand at a response:

Dear American People

Yes, please come back to the United Kingdom, we would welcome you with open arms. Of course, we welcome anybody with open arms -- nearly five percent of our population is Muslim -- almost five times as many as the United States! We know that your tolerance and understanding would lead you to become model citizens.

While we are not up to date with the current United States tax code, we assume it must be similar to ours -- our tax rate is around 40% for over 50,000 of your American dollars, and 50% for over 150,000. As your country's greatest wealth producers, we know this would be eminently affordable.

We have an excellent medical system in our country -- most prescriptions can be had for around 15 of your American dollars, and we note that 50% of our population is at least somewhat satisfied with our medical system, as compared to 25% in the United States. Although we cannot claim to pay physicians as well as the United States does, we know that our average salary of $100,000 would be sufficient for physicians who are only interested in the common good.

Our educational system is unparalleled -- tuition costs for university seldom exceed $5,000 per year.

We understand that unions are a bit of a sore spot in the United States -- you should know that England has only half the union membership that the United States does. (We have only one-sixth the population, but we do not propose to quibble.)

So feel free to come back to England, American People -- we know that the grace and good humor you face adversity with would be a welcome addition to the country.

Your once and future Queen,

Elizabeth II

286 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:57:11am

re: #284 Targetpractice

Surprised she hasn't been found in contempt yet. Judges apparently have far more patience than I.

She's played by the rules, if only just barely. Or rather, she hasn't done anything wrong that warrants a contempt charge; she's just not doing anything right, either. She has been hit with a few sanctions, which is unusual because courts generally actively try to avoid handing those out. Still waiting for her to be classified as a vexatious litigant, but depending on if she goes out in a blaze of derp-warrior glory, it may be a moot point.

287 Lidane  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 7:58:31am
288 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:02:22am
289 Lidane  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:02:52am

Speaking of looting:

290 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:07:29am

re: #287 Lidane

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Rush's comments really give us a peak into the wingnut mindset, which looked at last weeks election results and wondered aloud "Why aren't black folks and Hispanics voting for us?! We got Condi! We got Marco! We got Cain! Why aren't they voting for us!?"

291 BongCrodny  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:07:53am

re: #289 Lidane

Speaking of looting:

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The old racist is corrupt? Hoocoodanode?

292 BongCrodny  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:09:39am

re: #290 Targetpractice

Rush's comments really give us a peak into the wingnut mindset, which looked at last weeks election results and wondered aloud "Why aren't black folks and Hispanics voting for us?! We got Condi! We got Marco! We got Cain! Why aren't they voting for us!?"

Don't forget Allen West.

293 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:10:40am

re: #292 BongGhazi

Don't forget Allen West.

Oh yeah, a "great role model." Only in the GOP can a war criminal be seen as a "role model."

294 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:11:39am

re: #293 Targetpractice

Oh yeah, a "great role model." Only in the GOP can a war criminal be seen as a "role model."

Allen West is a war criminal?

295 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:13:27am

re: #294 Gus

Allen West is a war criminal?

Unconvicted, the Army gave him a wrist slap in exchange for early retirement.

296 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:15:49am

re: #295 Targetpractice

Unconvicted, the Army gave him a wrist slap in exchange for early retirement.

This is from Wiki:

West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice

Are those charges considered war crimes?

297 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:17:21am

Here's one.

298 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:18:35am

Here's your typical moonbat after the election:

299 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:18:46am

That's a parody account.

300 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:20:57am

re: #296 Gus

This is from Wiki:

West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice

Are those charges considered war crimes?

Torture is generally seen as a war crime.

301 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:23:20am

Well this is certainly...different.

Were mushrooms and marijuana staples of the early Christians' lives?

Is it possible that the stories of Jesus' life were made up and used by people as a means to keep a covert tradition afloat consisting of ingesting mushrooms for spiritual guidance?

There are many examples of what might be considered as possibly being symbology of mushrooms, weed, and alcohol within the story of Jesus' life.

The virgin birth - Mushrooms have no gender and procreate without sex. Cannibus is kept seperate from male plants in order to produce more THC.

Feeding the 5,000 - Ibotenic acid can be passed from one user to the next through urine

Communion - Eating the flesh of the mushroom that gave its life so that the user can "enter the kingdom"

Ressurection - Amanita muscaria can revive the ill or those near death and invigorate those suffering from arthritis, making the effects seem miraculous when given to the lame. It also causes deep sleeps, so one might be considered dead before later "coming back from the dead."

Causing the blind to see - Marijuana is unparalleled for relief from optical maladies. Also, one might consider his sober mind to be blind, only to be given sight by a mushroom.

Of course he has not one iota of evidence for any of this, it's just something that popped into his head. No word on whether or not he was stoned at time...lol.

Drugs are bad Mmmkay?

302 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:24:20am

re: #300 Targetpractice

Torture is generally seen as a war crime.

I like to save the phrase "war crimes" for actual war crimes and not some kind of chant. War criminals commit heinous crimes against humanity. I am reminded of Milosevic, Saddam Hussein, Bashar al-Assad, etc., and not Allen West. And again, he was charged with assault.

303 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:33:41am

Anywho. This Petraeus thing is seriously getting on my nerves on Twitter. I'm going to start un-following people over it.

304 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:35:44am

Although...

305 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:36:57am

re: #303 Gus

Anywho. This Petraeus thing is seriously getting on my nerves on Twitter. I'm going to start un-following people over it.

I'm beginning to think I might have to take break from one or more boards, because the wingnuts have gone into hysterics over losing. Now Petraeus' resignation has set them to frothing.

306 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:37:42am
307 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:38:26am

re: #304 Gus

Although...

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Her name is Broadwell, really? The jokes practically write themselves.

308 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:40:41am

re: #305 Targetpractice

I'm beginning to think I might have to take break from one or more boards, because the wingnuts have gone into hysterics over losing. Now Petraeus' resignation has set them to frothing.

Yeah. On Thursday I was in peak overload with the wingnuts. I can't sustain observing these people for such long periods of time. It's not healthy. Now with Petraeus they've gone complete bonkers. Sadly I'm seeing a lot of moonbats getting stupid over Petraeus as well and that kind of bugs me more than the wingnuts. The last of which involves a lot of old fashioned Bush derangement, war criminal talk (yes there's calling Petraeus a war criminal), and even the usual boring drone talk. They of course never liked the CIA.

309 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:42:43am

re: #308 Gus

Yeah. On Thursday I was in peak overload with the wingnuts. I can't sustain observing these people for such long periods of time. It's not healthy. Now with Petraeus they've gone complete bonkers. Sadly I'm seeing a lot of moonbats getting stupid over Petraeus as well and that kind of bugs me more than the wingnuts. The last of which involves a lot of old fashioned Bush derangement, was criminal talk (yes there's calling Petraeus a war criminal), and even the usual boring drone talk. They of course never liked the CIA.

Thing is, this is all just the beginning. The next 4 years are gonna be utter hell.

310 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:43:19am

lol

Remember that the first words out of the Byron York's mouth upon witnessing his first Obama Rally in 2008 were "We're going to need a bigger boat," referencing the point in Jaws where the shark first appears. Do you remember the name of the boat they used that ended up being destroyed? It was the Orca.

311 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:43:52am

re: #308 Gus

This is why I'm thankful for people who are able to observe wingnuts and moonbats without losing their sanity. I absolutely can't. I would totally go off the deep end and wind up getting arrested for something.

312 wrenchwench  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:43:57am

re: #307 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

Her name is Broadwell, really? The jokes practically write themselves.

She helps write 'em.

All In: The Education of General David Petraeus [Hardcover]

313 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:44:55am

Veterans Day - November 11

National Veterans Day Ceremony

The Veterans Day National Ceremony is held each year on November 11th at Arlington National Cemetery . The ceremony commences precisely at 11:00 a.m. with a wreath laying at the Tomb of the Unknowns and continues inside the Memorial Amphitheater with a parade of colors by veterans' organizations and remarks from dignitaries. The ceremony is intended to honor and thank all who served in the United States Armed Forces.

314 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:45:32am

re: #311 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

This is why I'm thankful for people who are able to observe wingnuts and moonbats without losing their sanity. I absolutely can't. I would totally go off the deep end and wind up getting arrested for something.

Maybe I need some car or airplane pron. //

315 wrenchwench  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:50:26am

re: #314 Gus

Maybe I need some car or airplane pron. //

How about bicycle pron art?

316 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:51:19am

re: #315 wrenchwench

How about bicycle pron art?

I like the chair.

Image: bicycle%20tube%20chair.jpg

317 wrenchwench  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:52:45am

re: #316 Gus

I like the chair.

Image: bicycle%20tube%20chair.jpg

Remember the old saying, "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle"?

Image: Fish_on_Bicycles.jpg

318 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:52:51am
319 Kronocide  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:54:29am

The Petraus thing just threw gas on the dogma inferno. I can't find any real information to validate claims this had anything to do with Benghazi or anything.

Just made up out of thin air and motivated deduction.

321 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:56:32am
322 Kronocide  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:57:42am
323 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 8:59:44am

re: #322 KronoGhazi

Seatbelts don't matter

They don't make airline execs like they used to.

324 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:01:03am

re: #322 KronoGhazi

Seatbelts don't matter

It truly does say something when the execs just go ahead and openly admit that they're putting public safety at risk for a few dollars more.

325 wrenchwench  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:01:19am
326 wrenchwench  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:01:41am

Oops, I meant this one:

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327 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:02:23am

re: #326 wrenchwench

Oops, I meant this one:

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328 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:02:36am

re: #322 KronoGhazi

Seatbelts don't matter

This is what FAA regulations are for: guys with brilliant ideas like him...

329 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:03:48am

re: #325 wrenchwench

Image: mosquito%20eyes.jpg

...

So much for sleeping tonight.

330 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:07:11am

re: #328 Sol Berdinowitz

This is what FAA regulations are for: guys with brilliant ideas like him...

Ryanair is notorious for this crap...

New Ryanair aircraft have been delivered with non-reclining seats, no seat-back pockets, safety cards stuck on the back of the seats, and life jackets stowed overhead rather than under the seat. This allows the airline to save on aircraft costs and enables faster cleaning and safety checks during the short turnaround times.[62] It was reported in various media that Ryanair wanted to order their aircraft without window shades;[62] however, the new aircraft do have them as it is required by the regulations of the Irish Aviation Authority.

Other proposed measures to reduce frills further have included eliminating two toilets to add six more seats,[63] redesigning the aircraft to allow standing passengers, suggested that passengers should pay to use the toilets,[64] charging extra for overweight passengers,[65] and asking passengers to carry their checked-in luggage to the plane.[66]

In common with other no-frills airlines, Ryanair is a strictly point-to-point carrier and does not offer connecting flights. Passengers who purchase an onward flight from their destination, intending to make a connection, are held responsible for making it to the airport on time for each flight. Ryanair does not compensate passengers who miss their flights because they arrive too late at the airport, nor does it provide replacement tickets free of charge. If a passenger misses his or her flight, then it is the passenger's responsibility to buy a new ticket at his or her own expense. This rule applies regardless of the passenger's chosen method of transport to the airport (including another Ryanair flight).[67]

331 wrenchwench  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:07:19am

re: #327 Gus

Image: Missao04-673x448.jpeg

He's in charge of pest control.

332 Kronocide  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:07:29am

re: #324 Targetpractice

It truly does say something when the execs just go ahead and openly admit that they're putting public safety at risk for a few dollars more.

He should win an Ayn Rand award for Creative Business Reinvention.

Mr O'Leary, aren't you putting lives and safety at risk for the sake of a few dollars more profit per flight?

Our customers are free to choose RyanAir or another carrier.

If you do this and other carriers follow suit, where is the choice?

They can take a train.

Fake but accurate quote.

333 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:08:32am

re: #331 wrenchwench

He's in charge of pest control.

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334 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:11:49am
335 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:12:11am

re: #330 Gus

Ryanair is notorious for this crap...

Geez, even Greyhound treats their passengers better.

336 wrenchwench  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:16:30am

Darth posted a pic from here yesterday.

Whole new source of MBF portraits.

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337 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:26:08am
338 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:35:12am

John Walker Lindh's lawyer makes the top of the Dkos Rec list again....
Petreaus-gate: It's Not About the Affair, But Leaking of the Highest Order

339 I Am Kreniigh!  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:36:30am
340 Mattand  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:38:22am

Not sure if anyone's covered this yet. I thought about paging it:

Democrat-Boycotting Libertarian Eric Dondero on Whether He Would Let a Democrat Drown

In theory, this guy is supposedly a Libertarian, but I'm guessing he's actually another conservative who went "independent" to make himself appear rational. Maybe not. I don't really care.

What's amazing is how utter batshit this guy's views are. If he's supposedly a Libertarian, and he's not sure he'd save a drowning Democrat, the conservative/Republican mindset might be even more horrible than previously understood.

If the last week and this article is any indication, we're in for a rocky road the next four years. Republicans and conservatives are showing almost no signs of comprehending that the US has rejected their policies. They're doing everything but laying the blame where it rests: with themselves.

I really wonder if were a turning point right now, politically. I hate to go concern troll, but the thought process in this article is the way many of our fellow Americans are handling the election. Quite frankly, with that kind of obstructionist delusion, it's not hard to see conservatives going from angry internet tough guys to firebombing their Democratic senator's home and office.

341 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:40:13am

re: #338 Killgore Trout

John Walker Lindh's lawyer makes the top of the Dkos Rec list again....
Petreaus-gate: It's Not About the Affair, But Leaking of the Highest Order

Fuck that noise. Petraeus was on Obama's team.

342 Digital Display  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:40:52am

re: #339 I Am Kreniigh!

Minor earthquake shakes Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee

I felt it in Cincinnati just now.

According to studies, The Earthquakes have tripled since frackking started in Oklahoma. I'm not saying a direct causation can be made yet. I believe further studies are needed.

343 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:41:15am

re: #338 Killgore Trout

John Walker Lindh's lawyer makes the top of the Dkos Rec list again....
Petreaus-gate: It's Not About the Affair, But Leaking of the Highest Order

Her diary by itself doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense but if you make it down to the comments is seems all about fantasies of investigating Patreaus and then somehow rounding up the Bush regime or something. Silly moonbats.

344 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:42:05am

[moonbat]Bradley Manning = Petraeus[/moonbat]

345 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:42:13am

re: #340 Mattand

Not sure if anyone's covered this yet. I thought about paging it:

Democrat-Boycotting Libertarian Eric Dondero on Whether He Would Let a Democrat Drown

In theory, this guy is supposedly a Libertarian, but I'm guessing he's actually another conservative who went "independent" to make himself appear rational. Maybe not. I don't really care.

What's amazing is how utter batshit this guy's views are. If he's supposedly a Libertarian, and he's not sure he'd save a drowning Democrat, the conservative/Republican mindset might be even more horrible than previously understood.

If the last week and this article is any indication, we're in for a rocky road the next four years. Republicans and conservatives are showing almost no signs of comprehending that the US has rejected their policies. They're doing everything but laying the blame where it rests: with themselves.

I really wonder if were a turning point right now, politically. I hate to go concern troll, but the thought process in this article is the way many of our fellow Americans are handling the election. Quite frankly, with that kind of obstructionist delusion, it's not hard to see conservatives going from angry internet tough guys to firebombing their Democratic senator's home and office.

Uh... where does the "appear rational" part come in?

346 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:43:19am

re: #341 Gus

Fuck that noise. Petraeus was on Obama's team.

I guess they think the investigation will lead to trials of Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld somehow. They really are morons.

347 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:44:31am

re: #15 Gus

I hold no ill will towards Petraeus.

I'm sad. It's a stupid ending to a brilliant career, and the whole e-mail business makes it trashy as opposed to just a personal error. I feel bad for his wife.

348 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:45:09am

re: #346 Killgore Trout

I guess they think the investigation will lead to trials of Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld somehow. They really are morons.

From last night.

349 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:46:01am

Who needs facts when you have an imagination.

350 Mattand  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:46:24am

re: #345 Four More Tears

Uh... where does the "appear rational" part come in?

LOL, the libertarians I know choose their political philosophy to make them appear above the fray. My theory is that this guy was a conservative, saw how insane the GOP got on social issues, and magically became an libertarian.

All of this admitted ass-conjecture on my part. Maybe this guy is socially liberal on things like drugs and gay marriage. I don't care, honestly. This kind of ranting says to me he was a conservative and is trying to politically camouflage himself as a libertarian.

351 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:46:32am

re: #31 Gus

We just can't bring up Clinton though. Right?

Bring up Clinton. Except I always assumed Clinton screwed around, long before evidence began to emerge.

352 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:47:22am

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

Obama should nominate Valerie Plame to replace Petraeus. Wingnut heads asplode!

That suits me. She's already as compromised as she's going to get, so she's perfectly safe, right?

353 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:48:15am

re: #46 Gus

I think the professional left still wants to take down Obama.

More than that, I think they want to bitch about him.

354 Mattand  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:48:21am

re: #351 SanFranciscoZionist

Bring up Clinton. Except I always assumed Clinton screwed around, long before evidence began to emerge.

Yeah, when Lewinksy-gate went down (no entendre intended), I was disappointed but not surprised. I knew who I was voting for in '92 and '96.

355 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:49:12am

re: #348 Gus

Her twitter feed is chock full of moonbattery. What a nut.

356 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:49:17am

re: #348 Gus

From last night.

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From what I've heard there's some talk about her trying to access his email. Hard to separate the signal from the noise on this one, but I'm paying attention.

357 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:49:55am

re: #57 The Questionable Timing of a Flea

General Petraeus should just claim he was looking for yellowcake uranium. That seems to justify just about anything.

I don't have a lot of sympathy for la otra, but I would be highly annoyed if any man suggested he thought he might find yellowcake uranium in my knickers. That just sounds disgusting.

358 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:50:30am

re: #356 Four More Tears

From what I've heard there's some talk about her trying to access his email. Hard to separate the signal from the noise on this one, but I'm paying attention.

I look at this like science. Unless I see hard evidence it's all another conspiracy theory just like the Benghazi stuff.

359 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:51:03am

Too good to be true...because it isn't...

A Party so Dead

RIP GOP 2012

360 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:51:50am

re: #358 Gus

WASHINGTON—Central Intelligence Agency Director David Petraeus resigned after a probe into whether someone else was using his email led to the discovery that he was having an extramarital affair, according to several people briefed on the matter.

A Federal Bureau of Investigation inquiry into use of Mr. Petraeus's Gmail account led agents to believe the woman or someone close to her had sought access to his email, the people said.

361 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:52:20am

re: #360 Four More Tears

We're OK with using WSJ as source now?

362 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:53:06am

re: #166 Four More Beers

From Genesis. Let us pray...

1:3 - And Nate Silver said, Let there be math; and there was math.
1:4 - And Nate Silver saw the math, and it was good; and Nate Silver divided the math from the darkness of idiot commentators on Fox News.

It will be interesting to see what people say about Nate Silver if he predicts a Republican win four years from now.

363 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:53:51am

re: #361 Gus

We're OK with using WSJ as source now?

There's a problem with the WSJ's reporting?

364 bratwurst  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:54:11am
365 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:54:32am

re: #172 Digital Display

Tonight really sucks.. My heart is broken..
I went to the Lodge tonight to have a great time..I love lodges when it is a private club with Ball room, Karoake and huge bar. I dance with old ladies who teach me the 2 step..A bunch of us guys will sing you've lost that loving feeling like in Top Gun..It's awesome fun..I love me some Okies.
My buddy came in destroyed crying for help...
His 20 year old son was killed in a gunfight in OKC last night. We are doing a wake Monday night.. But my heart is empty..I hate seeing the loss in my friends eyes. He is broken.. Geez. We took him home trashed and took his truck home.

I am so, so sorry, Hoops.

366 Gus  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:54:45am

re: #363 SanFranciscoZionist

There's a problem with the WSJ's reporting?

Rupert Murdoch owns it.

367 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:55:08am

re: #361 Gus

We're OK with using WSJ as source now?

I know their editorials leave much to be desired, but is their journalism in question?

369 BongCrodny  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:57:07am

re: #362 SanFranciscoZionist

It will be interesting to see what people say about Nate Silver if he predicts a Republican win four years from now.

He said on The Daily Show the other night that it would be tough for the Democrats to win three elections in a row, so I think maybe he's already laying the groundwork.

370 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 9:57:10am

re: #223 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Freepers pen an open Letter to Her Majesty Elizabeth II Queen of the United Kingdom.

Ok, so it is tongue-in-cheek, but this is still as stupid as the girl who wanted to move to Australia. England does not have a free press (official secrets act censorship), they have hate speech laws, nationalized medicine, the taxes are more than double (not by rate but effective) ours, handguns and semi-automatic rifles are banned, long guns and shotguns require special permitting and membership in a shooting club, gasoline costs nearly three times as much, and unemployment is higher.

You guys go if you want but you need to renounce your citizenship and turn in your passports when you leave. :p

Molly Ivins said years ago of the Crazy Right that you know that if they'd lived at the time, they all would have been Loyalists.

She was right.

Democracy is not for wimps, people, and that's what you are. Wimps who flip out when the guy you don't like gets elected for four years. And I said the same to the fools who wanted to run to Europe because Bush got in.

371 dragonath  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:03:03am

re: #308 Gus

Yeah. On Thursday I was in peak overload with the wingnuts. I can't sustain observing these people for such long periods of time. It's not healthy. Now with Petraeus they've gone complete bonkers. Sadly I'm seeing a lot of moonbats getting stupid over Petraeus as well and that kind of bugs me more than the wingnuts. The last of which involves a lot of old fashioned Bush derangement, war criminal talk (yes there's calling Petraeus a war criminal), and even the usual boring drone talk. They of course never liked the CIA.

Yeah, I noticed this right away too. John Cole over at Balloon Juice was saying something like "this proves he is a Republican".

Nah, it only proves he is human.

Jeez, did nobody learn anything from Clinton.

372 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:06:17am

re: #367 Four More Tears

I know their editorials leave much to be desired, but is their journalism in question?

I skip over anything in their op-ed section, too much garbage. But their regular news reporting is generally ok as far as I know.

373 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:09:42am

Moonbats to the left of me---------------Wingnuts to the Right

________________________Here I Am______________________


374 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:10:44am

re: #373 watching you tiny alien kittens are

I can't hear that song without memories of Reservoir Dogs popping up. Well done, Tarantino, well done...

375 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:11:15am

re: #374 Four More Tears

I can't hear that song without memories of Reservoir Dogs popping up. Well done, Tarantino, well done...

So I wasn't the only one who had that scene immediately pop into their head.

376 blueraven  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:11:47am

re: #361 Gus

We're OK with using WSJ as source now?

I think WSJ is fine, except for many of the opinion pieces.

377 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:12:24am

re: #375 Targetpractice

So I wasn't the only one who had that scene immediately pop into their head.

Nope. Every time I hear that damn song I see Michael Madsen with a straight razor in his hand.

378 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:13:23am
379 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:20:16am
380 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:21:46am

re: #379 Four More Tears

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"You either resign or get impeached. Your choice."

381 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:22:18am

re: #380 Targetpractice

"You either resign or get impeached. Your choice."

Yeah, that's the right way to read that I think.

382 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:22:36am

re: #378 Four More Tears

Must be a bitch for Murdoch to try to keep up with twitter, he puts up a tweet and within a minute had 5 replies and 16 retweets.

383 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:24:27am

re: #371 dragonath

Yeah, I noticed this right away too. John Cole over at Balloon Juice was saying something like "this proves he is a Republican".

Nah, it only proves he is human.

Jeez, did nobody learn anything from Clinton.

Yes, we learned all the wrong lessons. Exploitation for power, ratings, hyperbole... The right and the media compounded President Clinton having sexual relations with a subordinate with sins of their own. The nations view of inappropriate relations went backwards-Less mature when it was over.

384 Targetpractice  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:29:09am

re: #383 Daniel Ballard

Yes, we learned all the wrong lessons. Exploitation for power, ratings, hyperbole... The right and the media compounded President Clinton having sexual relations with a subordinate with sins of their own. The nations view of inappropriate relations went backwards-Les mature when it was over.

Indeed. And if Patraeus had refused to resign, it would have been pretty much a foregone conclusion that this would end up going before Congress. Considering the present mood amongst the Congressional GOP, taking the fiscal cliff off the front page by turning focus onto the CIA Director's indiscretions would be irresistible.

385 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:29:29am

re: #372 Killgore Trout

I skip over anything in their op-ed section, too much garbage. But their regular news reporting is generally ok as far as I know.

I haven't taken anyone's news accounts seriously since Rowan and Martins News Of The Future went off the air!!

(clip, circa 1969)

386 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:32:03am

re: #373 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Another in a long line of "One Hit Wonder" groups !

387 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:35:34am

Ah well

Off to watch Mrs. Sattys tennis team play

(note to self , bring sunglasses so nobody knows when I've fallen asleep)
//

388 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:37:53am

If Murdoch is saying he knew about affair for months I wonder if maybe that N.Y. Times letter to the Ethicist really might have been from Paula Broadwell's husband. Something that the gothamist is now speculating on as well, but we will probably never know about that particular aspect.

Hmmm...wonder if the person trying for access to Petraeus email could have possibly been the husband, would seem natural for him to want to sneek a peek if she was using email to stay in touch with Petraeus.

Sigh...well if and when we find out what happened more clearly it still wont make it any less sad. :(

389 makeitstop  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:39:21am

re: #386 sattv4u2

Another in a long line of "One Hit Wonder" groups !

Although Gerry Rafferty went on to have a few hits on his own. Always liked that guy.

390 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:42:20am

re: #386 sattv4u2

Another in a long line of "One Hit Wonder" groups !

Hmm...

391 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 11:11:15am

re: #367 Four More Tears

I know their editorials leave much to be desired, but is their journalism in question?

Uh...all journalism is in question.

392 Four More Tears  Sat, Nov 10, 2012 11:49:43am

re: #391 Decatur Deb

Uh...all journalism is in question.

Not quite what I meant, but nice try. :P


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