2 | erik_t Wed, Nov 14, 2012 5:57:33pm |
Who said he's stopping? Failure never stopped a Romney.
5 | Vicious Babushka Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:01:47pm |
Hey, Secessionists! Sucked when you lost! The South will lose again!
(Image is so awesome you have to see the original)
6 | EPR-radar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:03:59pm |
Excellent public service by the Onion. Romney needs to be mocked severely.
I particularly like the notion of a model of the US within which he could campaign perpetually.
Small, solid gold figurines of big GOP donors and primary rivals could be taken out in the morning, played with, and then put away for naptimes.
7 | Stanghazi Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:06:08pm |
re: #6 EPR-radar
Excellent public service by the Onion. Romney needs to be mocked severely.
I particularly like the notion of a model of the US within which he could campaign perpetually.
Small, solid gold figurines of big GOP donors and primary rivals could be taken out in the morning, played with, and then put away for naptimes.
Legoland is waiting for him. 15 min from his La Jolla beach house.
8 | darthstar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:06:16pm |
The sickest part about what Mitt said is his calling health care a gift. He truly thinks all you fuckers should just die without it. #p2— Steve Weinstein (@steveweinstein) November 15, 2012
10 | makeitstop Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:08:57pm |
re: #5 Vicious Babushka
Hey, Secessionists! Sucked when you lost! The South will lose again!
(Image is so awesome you have to see the original)
That is pretty danged awesome.
11 | EPR-radar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:11:47pm |
12 | darthstar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:12:34pm |
re: #5 Alouette
Hey, Secessionists! Sucked when you lost! The South will lose again!
(Image is so awesome you have to see the original)
That's better than Winchester Jesus on a raptor.
13 | A Man for all Seasons Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:12:58pm |
I love a good DC sex scandal. This one is getting better every day.
The real housewives of Afghanistan
14 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:13:32pm |
15 | Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:13:47pm |
Just now noticed Prez Obama left off Ayotte's name off when attacking Graham and McCain for presser. Why? She spoke, too. Woman?— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) November 15, 2012
Jesus Christ, don't wingnuts have anything better to do than parse everything the president says for hidden potential perfidiousness?
16 | Stanghazi Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:13:52pm |
re: #5 Vicious Babushka
Hey, Secessionists! Sucked when you lost! The South will lose again!
(Image is so awesome you have to see the original)
Support America, and by America I mean me creating me more of these pictures by buying an awesome print here.
17 | dragonath Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:14:46pm |
Paul Ryan-Endorsed Candidate Loses Bid For GOP Leadership Role
Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (WA) defeated Rep. Tom Price (GA) on Wednesday to become the next House Republican Conference Chairman, according to a person in the room during the vote.
It’s a wake-up call for Ryan, who urged colleagues in a letter Tuesday morning to support Price, the former chief of the deeply conservative Republican Study Committee, and favorite of the party’s right wing.
McMorris Rodgers was Speaker John Boehner’s preference. Currently the vice chair of the GOP conference and highest ranking House Republican woman, she has been a loyal surrogate for leadership and has earned the Speaker’s trust.
18 | aagcobb Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:14:49pm |
re: #15 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society
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Jesus Christ, don't wingnuts have anything better to do than parse everything the president says for hidden potential perfidiousness?
No, they don't.
19 | aagcobb Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:16:19pm |
re: #17 dragonath
Paul Ryan-Endorsed Candidate Loses Bid For GOP Leadership Role
I'm not sure why, but apparently John of Orange still has the congressional GOP's support.
20 | Stanghazi Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:16:53pm |
re: #13 Digital Display
I love a good DC sex scandal. This one is getting better every day.
The real housewives of Afghanistan
re: #13 Digital Display
I love a good DC sex scandal. This one is getting better every day.
The real housewives of Afghanistan
hahahaha. Seriously the Florida woman called 911. 911! About press in her driveway...she was trying to claim diplomatic immunity! To a 911 operator.
CRAY CRAY
21 | wrenchwench Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:17:20pm |
These three had to go together:
Frank says:
Why do you necessarily have to be wrong just because a few million people think you are?
Image: cMF-46yzfEqko78mJeC2qg2.jpg
and
Image: yLOrqK5xd0K1MKxUUochng2.jpg
Later, lizards.
22 | Iwouldprefernotto Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:17:28pm |
re: #19 aagcobb
I'm not sure why, but apparently John of Orange still has the congressional GOP's support.
Until he asks them to raise taxes on millionaires.
23 | darthstar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:17:29pm |
re: #15 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society
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Jesus Christ, don't wingnuts have anything better to do than parse everything the president says for hidden potential perfidiousness?
Plus, the reporter asking the question asked about McCain and Graham specifically.
24 | Killgore Trout Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:19:18pm |
UN spring into action....
U.N. Security Council calls emergency session on Israel raids
The U.N. Security Council will hold a closed emergency meeting on Wednesday night to discuss Israeli strikes against the Gaza Strip as Israel threatened a wider offensive in the Palestinian enclave to stem rocket salvoes by Hamas militants.
No mention of the 100+ rocket launches this week. Not sure if that total includes the over 50 rockets today.
25 | aagcobb Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:19:34pm |
re: #22 Iwouldprefernotto
Until he asks them to raise taxes on millionaires.
That is probably why the President should just shut it down until the New Year, when higher taxes on millionaires will be a done deal.
26 | Usually refered to as anyways Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:21:13pm |
re: #19 aagcobb
I'm not sure why, but apparently John of Orange still has the congressional GOP's support.
Upding for 'John of Orange', gave me a giggle.
27 | Majacita Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:22:13pm |
I think that Leslie Nielson could have played Romney magnificently.
28 | erik_t Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:22:56pm |
re: #15 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society
[Embedded content]
Jesus Christ, don't wingnuts have anything better to do than parse everything the president says for hidden potential perfidiousness?
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29 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:23:07pm |
I be having fun with this here newfangled twitting stuff...
@kirstenpowers10 Rupert Murdoch knew too, so what?— why ask (@ausador) November 14, 2012
...but she deleted my twit on her tweet. :(
/
30 | A Man for all Seasons Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:23:09pm |
re: #20 Stanghazi
re: #13 Digital Display
hahahaha. Seriously the Florida woman called 911. 911! About press in her driveway...she was trying to claim diplomatic immunity! To a 911 operator.
CRAY CRAY
Boy DC has a long list of sex scandals.. Each one better than the last.
The first one I remember when I was 13 or so. Gypsy Lee, The stripper and congressional sex partner. The only reason i remember that was cause I knew where pops hid his Playboy stash. :)
31 | A Man for all Seasons Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:24:01pm |
re: #27 Majacita
I think that Leslie Nielson could have played Romney magnificently.
Gordon Geko from Wall Street
32 | Stanghazi Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:24:12pm |
I'm still rather amazed that a fight/attack/war was twittered today. Was that IDF account legit?
33 | jamesfirecat Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:24:21pm |
If this campaign bus goes under fifty miles an hour....
34 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:27:58pm |
Romney Camp Retooling Campaign After Latest Setback
Calling it “a small bump in the road,” sources within Romney headquarters announced plans Wednesday to readjust their campaign strategy following their candidate’s loss of the 2012 presidential election to Barack Obama.
“Obviously the defeat yesterday was tough, but we’re confident we can get right back on track and win this thing in the end,” said Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades, adding that the GOP candidate “won’t be giving up just because of one bad day.” “The country simply can’t survive another four years of President Obama’s failed policies and broken promises. We just have to regroup, reconfigure a few things, and continue spreading our message to the American people that the man to lead this country forward is Mitt Romney.”
“We’re in this for the long haul,” Rhoades continued. “So we’re not going to let something minor, like not getting enough votes in the electoral college, set us back.”
According to sources, Romney plans to run fresh attack ads next week in several of the swing states he lost, including Ohio, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, and his campaign has already scheduled additional rallies and fundraising dinners across the country.
35 | aagcobb Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:28:02pm |
36 | Kaessa Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:30:10pm |
re: #27 Majacita
I think that Leslie Nielson could have played Romney magnificently.
Upding for putting that awesome image in my head.
37 | EPR-radar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:30:19pm |
re: #33 jamesfirecat
OT --- Always nice to see a reference to Final Fantasy VII. It was the first remotely close to modern video game I played, so naturally it is one of my favorites.
38 | A Man for all Seasons Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:30:20pm |
39 | OhNoZombies! Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:31:54pm |
40 | Ben G. Hazi Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:32:44pm |
re: #38 Digital Display
CharlieMartin Sheen in Apocalypse Now as Paul Ryan
FTFY...
Martin Sheen as Col. Kurtz as Paul Ryan...that's deeper than the Tenth Level of Hell.
41 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:34:24pm |
re: #32 Stanghazi
I'm still rather amazed that a fight/attack/war was twittered today. Was that IDF account legit?
No way to tell without a verified blue check thingie next to the account name.
42 | A Man for all Seasons Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:34:41pm |
43 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:35:19pm |
44 | Ben G. Hazi Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:35:23pm |
45 | dragonath Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:36:56pm |
re: #41 watching you tiny alien kittens are
No way to tell without a verified blue check thingie next to the account name.
Yes, it is verified:
[Link: twitter.com...]
47 | A Man for all Seasons Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:41:14pm |
re: #46 Kragar
George Wendt as John Sununu
You have to admit Mitt changed more this last year than Jeff Goldblum in the fly.
48 | dragonath Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:42:31pm |
re: #47 Digital Display
At least you could take pity on the Fly...
49 | geoduck Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:43:57pm |
re: #20 Stanghazi
re: #13 Digital Display
hahahaha. Seriously the Florida woman called 911. 911! About press in her driveway...she was trying to claim diplomatic immunity! To a 911 operator.
According to TPM, she evidently was referring not to her relationship with Petraeus, but to some kind of side gig she has with South Korea.
50 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:43:58pm |
51 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:45:01pm |
Ha, probably too busy appearing on Fox...
Will be on Fox with @megynkelly in a few minutes— kirsten powers (@kirstenpowers10) November 14, 2012
to notice this one yet...
@kirstenpowers10 Concern troll is very concerned.— why ask (@ausador) November 14, 2012
52 | jaunte Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:47:27pm |
re: #15 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society
[Embedded content]
Jesus Christ, don't wingnuts have anything better to do than parse everything the president says for hidden potential perfidiousness?
Actually, no, not really.
53 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:49:27pm |
54 | jaunte Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:51:59pm |
"then you have a problem with me."
Uh oh, he used 10 vowels!
Leadership, confidence, optimism, energy, independence, creative power, success, original, adaptable, individualisation, determination.
[Link: numerology-thenumbersandtheirmeanings.blogspot.com...]
55 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:52:02pm |
re: #45 dragonath
Yes, it is verified:
[Link: twitter.com...]
Then yes, twitter vouches for the account being real. The blue check thingie is there...thanks dragonath.
56 | jamesfirecat Wed, Nov 14, 2012 6:54:11pm |
re: #37 EPR-radar
OT --- Always nice to see a reference to Final Fantasy VII. It was the first remotely close to modern video game I played, so naturally it is one of my favorites.
Final Fantasy VII is a great game.
It's like.... F**k this is what all RPGS should be like for whatever reason. It's like Silent Hill 2 or Halo where it's a game that defined a genere.
Also I in now way enjoyed it enough that I wrote a 200,000+ word fanfic for it....
58 | makeitstop Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:00:02pm |
re: #40 Ben G. Hazi
FTFY...
Martin Sheen as Col. Kurtz as Paul Ryan...that's deeper than the Tenth Level of Hell.
Brando was Col. Kurtz. Sheen was Capt. Willard. Heh.
59 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:02:04pm |
re: #58 makeitstop
Brando was Col. Kurtz. Sheen was Capt. Willard. Heh.
He was an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill!
60 | Henchman 25 Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:07:02pm |
re: #56 jamesfirecat
Final Fantasy VII is a great game.
It's like.... F**k this is what all RPGS should be like for whatever reason. It's like Silent Hill 2 or Doom where it's a game that defined a genere.
FTFY
61 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:08:32pm |
62 | Vicious Babushka Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:08:44pm |
DERPTY DERP
Here's what the electoral map for 2012 would look like if only ppl who pay income taxes were allowed to vote bit.ly/XarTqo— Kevin Eder (@keder) November 15, 2012
63 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:09:23pm |
re: #56 jamesfirecat
Final Fantasy VII is a great game.
It's like.... F**k this is what all RPGS should be like for whatever reason. It's like Silent Hill 2 or Halo where it's a game that defined a genere.
Also I in now way enjoyed it enough that I wrote a 200,000+ word fanfic for it....
Eh. FF defined JRPGs.
64 | Targetpractice Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:11:13pm |
re: #62 Vicious Babushka
DERPTY DERP
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Because we know for certain that the income tax payers would all vote Republican.
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65 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:11:16pm |
66 | Ben G. Hazi Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:11:36pm |
67 | Vicious Babushka Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:12:16pm |
re: #64 Targetpractice
Because we know for certain that the income tax payers would all vote Republican.
///
@keder Hey shmuck, I pay income tax and I voted for Obama. What's more Obama won the county where Romney used to live. #SoreLosers #GOPSucks— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) November 15, 2012
68 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:12:39pm |
re: #62 Vicious Babushka
DERPTY DERP
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And here is what the electoral map would look like if complete fucktards were not allowed to vote:
69 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:12:50pm |
re: #56 jamesfirecat
Final Fantasy VII is a great game.
It's like.... F**k this is what all RPGS should be like for whatever reason. It's like Silent Hill 2 or Halo where it's a game that defined a genere.
Also I in now way enjoyed it enough that I wrote a 200,000+ word fanfic for it....
Also, as much as I like Silent Hill 2, I'm not so sure you can argue that it defined survival horror. Same goes for Halo and FPSs.
70 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:13:57pm |
re: #69 Four More Tears
Also, as much as I like Silent Hill 2, I'm not so sure you can argue that it defined survival horror. Same goes for Halo and FPSs.
Silent Hill is the only series which creeped me out to the point I had to walk away from the game and didn't come back.
That fucking rabbit.
71 | Targetpractice Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:14:25pm |
re: #69 Four More Tears
Also, as much as I like Silent Hill 2, I'm not so sure you can argue that it defined survival horror. Same goes for Halo and FPSs.
I'd argue that Biohazard/Resident Evil did more to define the genre than Silent Hill did.
72 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:14:40pm |
re: #62 Vicious Babushka
DERPTY DERP
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Hey, waitaminute. If 53% pay income tax and 47% don't, then why didn't they win the actual election instead of this one they made up in their head, hm?
73 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:16:00pm |
re: #70 Kragar
Silent Hill is the only series which creeped me out to the point I had to walk away from the game and didn't come back.
That fucking rabbit.
I don't think any game has creeped me out like that. A movie has, though.
Audition...
I stopped the stream when the bag moves and never went back. I'd say that's a compliment.
74 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:16:11pm |
re: #72 Four More Tears
Hey, waitaminute. If 53% pay income tax and 47% don't, then why didn't they win the actual election instead of this one they made up in their head, hm?
Voter suppression obviously.
///
75 | dragonath Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:16:31pm |
re: #71 Targetpractice
I'd argue that Biohazard/Resident Evil did more to define the genre than Silent Hill did.
YOU WERE ALMOST A JILL... SANDWICH!!
76 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:16:40pm |
re: #72 Four More Tears
Hey, waitaminute. If 53% pay income tax and 47% don't, then why didn't they win the actual election instead of this one they made up in their head, hm?
Because some white people are race class traitors!!!
77 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:17:11pm |
re: #71 Targetpractice
I'd argue that Biohazard/Resident Evil did more to define the genre than Silent Hill did.
Yeah. And Doom defined the FPS genre, while I'd say Half-Life did that for the story-driven FPSs that we have now.
79 | Targetpractice Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:19:23pm |
re: #77 Four More Tears
Yeah. And Doom defined the FPS genre, while I'd say Half-Life did that for the story-driven FPSs that we have now.
Doom defined it, but it was really following the trail that games like Wolfenstein had already blazed.
80 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:19:29pm |
81 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:20:09pm |
re: #79 Targetpractice
Doom defined it, but it was really following the trail that games like Wolfenstein had already blazed.
Yeah, but Doom took it mainstream. Alone in the Dark came before RE, but RE really made it a thing.
83 | Targetpractice Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:21:54pm |
84 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:22:17pm |
re: #73 Four More Tears
I don't think any game has creeped me out like that. A movie has, though.
Audition...
I stopped the stream when the bag moves and never went back. I'd say that's a compliment.
I forget which one it was, but prior to a character getting killed off, someone in the game would point at them. Right as you reach a certain point, you look into this room for a clue and this stuff bunny which had been knocked over is sitting straight up, covered in blood and is pointing right at you.
Freaked me the fuck out.
85 | jamesfirecat Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:23:15pm |
Is anybody gonna get mad at me if I say that Earthbound while not defining it's genre was still an amazing example of an RPG?
86 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:23:52pm |
re: #85 jamesfirecat
Is anybody gonna get mad at me if I say that Earthbound while not defining it's genre was still an amazing example of an RPG?
Yes. Get out.
/
87 | jamesfirecat Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:24:40pm |
re: #84 Kragar
I forget which one it was, but prior to a character getting killed off, someone in the game would point at them. Right as you reach a certain point, you look into this room for a clue and this stuff bunny which had been knocked over is sitting straight up, covered in blood and is pointing right at you.
Freaked me the fuck out.
Silent Hill Four The Room (So Pyramid Head, hows you're sex life?) pretty sure.
88 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:25:06pm |
re: #85 jamesfirecat
Is anybody gonna get mad at me if I say that Earthbound while not defining it's genre was still an amazing example of an RPG?
Oh! The abortion game! I've heard of it but never played. Read about it on Cracked.
89 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:25:11pm |
Freespace...that is all.
90 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:25:11pm |
re: #87 jamesfirecat
Silent Hill Four The Room (So Pyramid Head, hows you're sex life?) pretty sure.
Sounds right.
91 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:25:44pm |
92 | OhNoZombies! Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:25:55pm |
re: #84 Kragar
I forget which one it was, but prior to a character getting killed off, someone in the game would point at them. Right as you reach a certain point, you look into this room for a clue and this stuff bunny which had been knocked over is sitting straight up, covered in blood and is pointing right at you.
Freaked me the fuck out.
Oh hell no.
93 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:26:31pm |
re: #88 Four More Tears
Oh! The abortion game! I've heard of it but never played. Read about it on Cracked.
[Link: www.cracked.com...]
94 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:26:50pm |
re: #91 Four More Tears
TIE Fighter.
I win.
Challenge accepted.
WING COMMANDER!
ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE!
95 | Targetpractice Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:27:18pm |
Played a lot of games where they seemed to revel in jump scares. And that just doesn't do it for me. Atmosphere is really the key game mechanic if you wanna freak me the fuck out. See also: Dunwich Building.
96 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:27:38pm |
re: #94 Kragar
Challenge accepted.
WING COMMANDER!
ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE!
Come back when you know what you're talking about.
97 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:28:01pm |
re: #95 Targetpractice
Played a lot of games where they seemed to revel in jump scares. And that just doesn't do it for me. Atmosphere is really the key game mechanic if you wanna freak me the fuck out. See also: Dunwich Building.
Oh, Silent Hill has atmosphere up the ass.
98 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:28:46pm |
Love this photo of German not giving a fuck and refusing to give the Nazi salute at a 1936 Hamburg rally. twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew…
— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) November 15, 2012
99 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:29:47pm |
re: #96 Four More Tears
Come back when you know what you're talking about.
Heart of the Tiger, biznitch, Heart of the Tiger.
BOOM! HEADSHOT!
100 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:30:29pm |
BP expected to plead guilty to criminal misconduct in 2010 Deepwater Horizon disaster (@reuters) #OilSpill
— Weed Dude (@weeddude) November 15, 2012
101 | darthstar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:31:37pm |
So after going on TV to trash Susan Rice McCain doesn't even show up to the classified HSC briefing on Benghazi today? politico.com/news/stories/1...— AdamSerwer (@AdamSerwer) November 15, 2012
102 | goddamnedfrank Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:32:16pm |
Love this restaurant review:
Did panic grip your soul as you stared into the whirling hypno wheel of the menu, where adjectives and nouns spin in a crazy vortex? When you saw the burger described as “Guy’s Pat LaFrieda custom blend, all-natural Creekstone Farm Black Angus beef patty, LTOP (lettuce, tomato, onion + pickle), SMC (super-melty-cheese) and a slathering of Donkey Sauce on garlic-buttered brioche,” did your mind touch the void for a minute?
...
Why is one of the few things on your menu that can be eaten without fear or regret — a lunch-only sandwich of chopped soy-glazed pork with coleslaw and cucumbers — called a Roasted Pork Bahn Mi, when it resembles that item about as much as you resemble Emily Dickinson?
...
What accounts for the vast difference between the Donkey Sauce recipe you’ve published and the Donkey Sauce in your restaurant? Why has the hearty, rustic appeal of roasted-garlic mayonnaise been replaced by something that tastes like Miracle Whip with minced raw garlic?
And when we hear the words Donkey Sauce, which part of the donkey are we supposed to think about?
Is the entire restaurant a very expensive piece of conceptual art? Is the shapeless, structureless baked alaska that droops and slumps and collapses while you eat it, or don’t eat it, supposed to be a representation in sugar and eggs of the experience of going insane?
Why did the toasted marshmallow taste like fish?
103 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:32:44pm |
104 | Varek Raith Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:32:50pm |
Where the hell is my gift for voting for Obama?!?!?!
105 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:34:01pm |
re: #104 Varek Raith
Where the hell is my gift for voting for Obama?!?!?!
Word is you'll be getting your very own demon shortly.
106 | darthstar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:34:13pm |
re: #103 Kragar
He doesn't need his opinion cluttered up by facts.
Well, in McCain's defense, there were no cameras rolling to show how awesome he is.
107 | Lidane Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:34:46pm |
re: #94 Kragar
Challenge accepted.
WING COMMANDER!
ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE!
Unless you're talking about the Wing Commander movie. That sucked.
108 | Targetpractice Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:36:02pm |
re: #105 Kragar
Word is you'll be getting your very own demon shortly.
Has Beelzebub put him aside for me?
//
109 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:36:09pm |
re: #84 Kragar
OK, I favorited that for the bunny!
110 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:36:53pm |
re: #107 Lidane
Unless you're talking about the Wing Commander movie. That sucked.
I'm waiting for the Uwe Boll version.
/
111 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:38:11pm |
...
Apple reportedly bans 'memory' games from App Store cnet.co/PVgw1j
— CNET (@CNET) November 15, 2012
This is one reason I hate platforms that don't allow for multiple sources for apps.
112 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:38:12pm |
re: #102 goddamnedfrank
Um, did you eat there?
Enquiring minds want to know!
113 | Targetpractice Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:38:35pm |
re: #110 Kragar
I'm waiting for the Uwe Boll version.
/
Why, because you enjoy the pleasure of ripping your own hair out in utter frustration?
114 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:40:01pm |
re: #104 Varek Raith
Where the hell is my gift for voting for Obama?!?!?!
Here you go...
[proton torpedo streaks into the exhaust port of Varek's Death Star.]
[BOOOMM!!]
115 | Targetpractice Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:41:05pm |
Was that the Death Star parked in low Earth orbit?
116 | makeitstop Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:41:13pm |
117 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:41:44pm |
re: #115 Targetpractice
Was that the Death Star parked in low Earth orbit?
No, it was in high orbit.
118 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:42:17pm |
119 | jaunte Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:42:54pm |
re: #104 Varek Raith
Where the hell is my gift for voting for Obama?!?!?!
Here it is; you'll have to pick it up just north of I-40, east of Flagstaff.
Image: roadsidegift.jpg
120 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:43:35pm |
121 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:44:11pm |
EXCLUSIVE: Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS Never Filed Legally Required Registration
When Karl Rove’s Crossroads Grassroots Policy Strategies (GPS) formed in 2010, it established its official address in Warrenton, VA, and registered with the Internal Revenue Service a tax-exempt 501(c)(4) “social welfare organization.” It apparently did not, however, register as a charitable organization with the Commonwealth of Virginia, as appears was legally required.
...
While the group’s federal tax filings and registration with the District of Columbia indicate that it is a Virginia corporation — and Crossroads GPS did apparently register with the state’s corporation commission — the Office of Charitable and Regulatory Programs confirmed to ThinkProgress that no entity named Crossroads GPS or Crossroads Grassroots Policy Strategies has ever registered to solicit contributions in Virginia. Additionally, no entity with the tax identification number listed on Crossroads GPS’s tax filings has ever registered with the agency.
122 | jamesfirecat Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:46:17pm |
re: #121 Kragar
EXCLUSIVE: Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS Never Filed Legally Required Registration
Sound likes Rove have better already his booked his plane trip to Rio...
123 | BongCrodny Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:46:21pm |
re: #104 Varek Raith
Where the hell is my gift for voting for Obama?!?!?!
I already got my gift.
Mitt Romney won't be anywhere near Washington, D.C. on January 20, 2013
124 | Interesting Times Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:49:53pm |
re: #122 jamesfirecat
Sound likes Rove have better already his booked his plane trip to Rio...
Would he have a traveling companion?
#CanCantorCheck this pic of Paula Broadwell with Rove twitter.com/howaboutyou2/s...— Susan(@howaboutyou2) November 15, 2012
125 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:50:25pm |
re: #122 jamesfirecat
Sound likes Rove have better already his booked his plane trip to Rio...
Conservative Megadonors Have Spent Week Yelling At Their Money
126 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:52:10pm |
So did anyone else get re: #102 goddamnedfrank
Love this restaurant review:
So what are they trying to say? They didn't like it or something?
///
127 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:52:39pm |
re: #124 Interesting Times
Would he have a traveling companion?
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Bit cheap. She was well regarded after her book came out, bathed in Gen. Petraeus' reflected glow. Now of course, such images carry the slight stink of The Other Woman.
128 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:54:20pm |
re: #127 Dark_Falcon
Bit cheap. She was well regarded after her book came out, bathed in Gen. Petraeus' reflected glow. Now of course, such images carry the slight stink of The Other Woman.
Widening Petraeus Scandal Reveals Human Race Has Been Having Sex For 200,000 Years
“While the situation appeared at first to be limited to this one sexual relationship between Gen. Petraeus and Ms. Broadwell, we see now that it is far more extensive than we had initially believed,” said an FBI official who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the ongoing investigation. “Indeed, evidence shows Gen. Petraeus is, in fact, just one of literally billions of human beings who we now believe have on numerous occasions engaged in sexual intercourse over the last several hundred millennia.”
“No matter how far back we go, we just continue to find more and more corroborating proof of people having sex,” the official added. “There’s simply no end in sight.”
130 | jaunte Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:55:54pm |
131 | Varek Raith Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:58:34pm |
132 | Four More Tears Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:59:20pm |
re: #127 Dark_Falcon
Bit cheap. She was well regarded after her book came out, bathed in Gen. Petraeus' reflected glow. Now of course, such images carry the slight stink of The Other Woman.
For someone who's always literal, you picked a weird time to get all poetic...
133 | dragonfire1981 Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:02:35pm |
re: #132 Four More Tears
For someone who's always literal, you picked a weird time to get all poetic...
On that note, I'd like to share this poem I wrote earlier today that is completely UNrelated to the Petraeus scandal:
Glory
You may be a little tattered but your colors still shine bright,
and I always know you're guarding me, be it day or night.
You served to fill each of our hearts with patriotic pride,
and adorned a thousand marching men, rifles by their side.
With honor they will defend you, until their last heroic breath.
For to them the choice is clear: Give me freedom or give me death.
Thought it was hardly ever easy and some never made it back,
there was never a lack of bravery in the wake of a fresh attack.
So as I look upon this pole, to the flag strong and brimming red,
I feel my spirit swell for the living...and my heart weep for the dead.
But as long as your are up there, blowing strong against the sky,
In our minds and in our hearts, Freedom cannot die.
.....
134 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:04:08pm |
re: #132 Four More Tears
For someone who's always literal, you picked a weird time to get all poetic...
Eh, that happens.
135 | dragonath Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:10:12pm |
136 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:11:24pm |
137 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:22:11pm |
If Mitt fundraises less than $65,000 a day, he will blow up. Didn't you guys see the movie?
138 | Joanne Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:24:06pm |
RT @davidaxelrod Sen McCain had plenty of time today for demagogic presser on Benghazi, but none to attend a classified hearing on it—historygoddess (@GrandmaWat) November 15, 2012
139 | jaunte Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:24:33pm |
Krauthammer the Great part whatever
Forget it he’s rolling. It hasn’t been easy figuring out how the downfall of General David Petraeus was masterminded by the President. We know it came after he told Al Qaeda to kill whomever they like, wherever they like, whenever they like, in a horrific manner and on digital media preferably, thanks. But to the untrained eye, Broadwell and Benghazi appear unrelated. Enter Charles Krauthammer’s foxy eyes:
140 | Varek Raith Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:24:36pm |
re: #137 SanFranciscoZionist
If Mitt fundraises less than $65,000 a day, he will blow up. Didn't you guys see the movie?
Seems legit.
141 | EPR-radar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:27:13pm |
re: #135 dragonath
Oddly appropriate, given that Romney should disappear up his own rectum in shame at his behavior over the past few years.
142 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:28:00pm |
re: #141 EPR-radar
Oddly appropriate, given that Romney should disappear up his own rectum in shame at his behavior over the past few years.
Sorry, but he doesn't swing that way. :)
143 | EPR-radar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:29:29pm |
re: #142 Dark_Falcon
Sorry, but he doesn't swing that way. :)
I didn't know "topological impossibility" was an orientation...
144 | jaunte Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:29:48pm |
re: #135 dragonath
"The ground game is really important, and we have to be, I mean we've got to give our political organizational activity a very serious..." he said, taking a pause and looking for the right word. "Proctology exam. We need to look everywhere."
"Haley, the good ideas ain't up there."
145 | EPR-radar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:31:36pm |
re: #63 Four More Tears
Eh. FF defined JRPGs.
I have absolutely no twitch reflex, and I like my RPGs to be story-driven. So, I'm a little bit familiar with JRPGs, and almost completely clueless about everything else.
146 | Joanne Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:32:01pm |
Five-Hour Energy Linked to Heart Attacks, 'Spontaneous Abortion' tinyurl.com/b9cfyja #p2— CaptivatingNews (@CaptivatingNews) November 15, 2012
This stuff gives me heart palpitations. My heart started thumping so hard I thought I was having a heart attack. I can drink it in two gulps but not one. I'm thinking I'm gonna pass on that from now on.
147 | Shiplord Kirel Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:32:16pm |
re: #137 SanFranciscoZionist
If Mitt fundraises less than $65,000 a day, he will blow up. Didn't you guys see the movie?
I thought God would call him home if he didn't raise a million by next week.
Oh.
Wrong quack.
148 | BongCrodny Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:34:22pm |
re: #135 dragonath
Governor Barbour?
Your party's heads are up their collective asses.
Diagnosis complete.
149 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:34:43pm |
re: #146 Joanne
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This stuff gives me heart palpitations. My heart started thumping so hard I thought I was having a heart attack. I can drink it in two gulps but not one. I'm thinking I'm gonna pass on that from now on.
Well... fuck
150 | freetoken Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:36:49pm |
re: #146 Joanne
Not very impressed with the story linked, but, yeah, taking massive doses of stimulants - what could possibly go wrong?
151 | OhNoZombies! Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:37:06pm |
re: #144 jaunte
"Haley, the good ideas ain't up there."
You would think they had already learned that after losing the election.
Well I guess it's after first you don't succeed, try again.
//
152 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:38:42pm |
Ron Paul: 'Our Constitution Has Failed'
In a sprawling, 52-minute speech to the House chamber, Paul lambasted U.S. government, politicians and special interests, declaring that the U.S. people must return to virtue before the government allows them to be free, and that the Constitution has failed to limit the scope of an authoritarian bureaucracy.
"Our Constitution, which was intended to limit government power and abuse, has failed," Paul said. "The Founders warned that a free society depends on a virtuous and moral people. The current crisis reflects that their concerns were justified."
For the retiring Republican, 77, the "current crisis" isn't quite what it is for other members of Congress, who routinely use that word to describe the economic recession that followed the 2008 financial crash. To the Texas Republican, that's part of it, but the causes are deeper, and it's also a crisis of governmental authoritarianism and the vanishing of personal liberty.
153 | Targetpractice Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:39:42pm |
154 | Ben G. Hazi Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:40:03pm |
155 | Joanne Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:42:24pm |
re: #144 jaunte
"Haley, the good ideas ain't up there."
It's all the GOP has. They're always pulling stuff out of their asses.
156 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:42:50pm |
re: #153 Targetpractice
It's gonna be an absolute shame when he's gone. I'm gonna miss him...not.
Why is he wearing a lei?
157 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:43:48pm |
158 | Joanne Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:46:14pm |
re: #150 freetoken
Not very impressed with the story linked, but, yeah, taking massive doses of stimulants - what could possibly go wrong?
I'd never have thought that a 1 or 2 ounce bottle of anything (short of amyl nitrate) could do that to a grown adult body.
159 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:46:41pm |
re: #156 SanFranciscoZionist
Why is he wearing a
leilay?
160 | Joanne Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:48:23pm |
re: #156 SanFranciscoZionist
Why is he wearing a lei?
Rubbing Obama's non-birthplace in everybody's faces? /
161 | Joanne Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:50:12pm |
Study finds as little as two glasses of wine a week during pregnancy can lower child's IQ goo.gl/oZE8w— The Raw Story (@RawStory) November 15, 2012
162 | jaunte Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:51:19pm |
re: #152 Kragar
"The Founders warned that a free society depends on a virtuous and moral people. The current crisis reflects that their concerns were justified."
Ron Paul, another sore loser complaining about the refs.
163 | Joanne Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:54:00pm |
RT @markm1962: Atheist group sues IRS for failing to enforce church electioneering ban | The Raw Story rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/14/...— JD (@argylestyle) November 15, 2012
164 | jaunte Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:54:29pm |
"Restraining aggressive behavior is one thing, but legalizing a government monopoly for initiating aggression can only lead to exhausting liberty associated with chaos, anger and the breakdown of civil society," Paul said.
Privatize the initiation of aggression, for freedom!
165 | EPR-radar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:58:18pm |
re: #164 jaunte
Privatize the initiation of aggression, for freedom!
Naturally. Libertarians have to go through incredible logical contortions if they want to avoid the conclusion that society and all within it should belong to whoever hired the most effective private army.
166 | geoduck Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:59:38pm |
re: #136 Kragar
They're going to need a bigger glove.
Well, someone needs a job..
Image: romney-fudge.jpg
167 | Joanne Wed, Nov 14, 2012 8:59:58pm |
How much must it suck to be a rich white guy and not be able to take ajob from an uppity negro? It must be painful... #TearsForRomney— Elon James White (@elonjames) November 15, 2012
168 | Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:16:18pm |
re: #121 Kragar
EXCLUSIVE: Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS Never Filed Legally Required Registration
Sheesh, he couldn't even follow the already nearly nonexistent and hole filled rules governing super PACS. That like getting a speeding ticket on the Autobahn.
You had 400 million dollars, Karl. You could have afforded a competent lawyer to set it up for you.
169 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:22:29pm |
Support Gay marriage or we'll marry your girlfriend
[Link: www.collegehumor.com...]
170 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:23:43pm |
Does this mean stupid Facebook posts from Ron Paul will be over?
I can only hope...
171 | engineer cat Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:25:57pm |
re: #152 Kragar
the wingnut future calls for the recession to get much worse, inflation and unemployment to go through the roof, and medicare and social security to be unfinanceable soon because of a massive and unmanageable federal debt
we'll see
if this wingnut book of revelations fails to come to pass, how 'failed' will we be then?
172 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:26:24pm |
re: #160 Joanne
Rubbing Obama's non-birthplace in everybody's faces? /
My husband and I, and our parents, wore those flowers at our wedding. Husband grew up in Hawaii. His folks brought them out when they flew over.
I don't know what they're called.
173 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:27:12pm |
174 | Targetpractice Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:31:00pm |
re: #173 Kragar
Warning: not a parody
Most Powerful Weapon on Earth
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Aw, I thought when it was saying the most powerful weapon on Earth, it was gonna be a video of Tsar Bomba.
175 | Henchman Ghazi-808 Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:33:05pm |
re: #172 SanFranciscoZionist
My husband and I, and our parents, wore those flowers at our wedding. Husband grew up in Hawaii. His folks brought them out when they flew over.
I don't know what they're called.
That's a common orchid lei. Hard to get in Texas.
176 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:33:35pm |
re: #174 Targetpractice
Aw, I thought when it was saying the most powerful weapon on Earth, it was gonna be a video of Tsar Bomba.
I'VE GOT A SPIRITUAL AMMO BELT THAT WILL PIERCE YOUR HEART WITH CHRIST'S LOVE, YOU BASTARD!
177 | Dancing along the light of day Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:36:23pm |
re: #175 Kronocide
Dendrobium flowers, mostly grown in Thailand.
Make great necklaces!
178 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:43:05pm |
Sorry posting has been so light from me tonight. I've been working hard to prep and paint minis for a game I am running on Saturday. I'll put up some photos once the game is done, but right now its my biggest non-job search thing. The interviews I've had and still have this week command first priority, and I allow no gaming activity to interfere with them, though. I know what really matters.
179 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:44:24pm |
180 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:49:27pm |
Trivia time:
The word fascinate derives from Latin fascinum and the related verb fascinare, "to use the power of the fascinus,"
What is the fascinus you might ask? That would be the Roman term for the divine phallus.
Fascinating (AKA "check out my dong.")
181 | goddamnedfrank Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:54:00pm |
Weird, apparently the FBI agent who sent shirtless pics of himself to Jill Kelley is the guy who plays Dean Pelton on Community.
182 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:56:35pm |
re: #180 Kragar
Trivia time:
The word fascinate derives from Latin fascinum and the related verb fascinare, "to use the power of the fascinus,"
What is the fascinus you might ask? That would be the Roman term for the divine phallus.
Fascinating (AKA "check out my dong.")
Put your pants back on, Kragar.
183 | Kragar Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:57:14pm |
184 | austin_blue Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:59:48pm |
It's F1 fever in Austin! I'm expecting an absolute omnishambles with traffic. Working tomorrow, but taking Friday off because I don't even want to attempt to deal with the mayhem. It's the invasion of skinny jeans, tight shirts, bad dentistry, and Gauloises.
"Your city is very quaint. We will dance now."
185 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 14, 2012 9:59:51pm |
186 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:00:56pm |
re: #184 austin_blue
It's F1 fever in Austin! I'm expecting an absolute omnishambles with traffic. Working tomorrow, but taking Friday off because I don't even want to attempt to deal with the mayhem. It's the invasion of skinny jeans, tight shirts, bad dentistry, and Gauloises.
"Your city is very quaint. We will dance now."
Some of the Phelps family is headed your way, or so its been posted. Any plans to annoy America's Troll Family?
187 | austin_blue Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:04:35pm |
re: #186 Dark_Falcon
Some of the Phelps family is headed your way, or so its been posted. Any plans to annoy America's Troll Family?
They may show, they may not. If I see them, someone is getting punched in the nose. Evil, vile humanoids.
188 | Pip's Squeak Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:05:20pm |
re: #184 austin_blue
It's F1 fever in Austin! I'm expecting an absolute omnishambles with traffic. Working tomorrow, but taking Friday off because I don't even want to attempt to deal with the mayhem. It's the invasion of skinny jeans, tight shirts, bad dentistry, and Gauloises.
What's F1? Football 1? What is this?
189 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:05:38pm |
re: #187 austin_blue
They may show, they may not. If I see them, someone is getting punched in the nose. Evil, vile humanoids.
A good number of them are female. I know you wouldn't hit a woman.
190 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:06:16pm |
192 | wheat-dogghazi Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:15:27pm |
re: #190 Dark_Falcon
With left AND right turns.
194 | Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:34:53pm |
re: #180 Kragar
Trivia time:
The word fascinate derives from Latin fascinum and the related verb fascinare, "to use the power of the fascinus,"
What is the fascinus you might ask? That would be the Roman term for the divine phallus.
Fascinating (AKA "check out my dong.")
Puts a slightly different spin on this:
195 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:39:40pm |
re: #180 Kragar
Fascinating (AKA "check out my dong.")
Check out my divine dong!
My ex used to get annoyed when I would stand naked in in the mornings in front of our fourth-floor window, which faced downtown, and shout "Eat this, Frankfurt!"
196 | goddamnedfrank Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:40:08pm |
Hrmmm ...
Paula Broadwell, the author who allegedly had an affair with former CIA Director David Petraeus, is suspected of storing significant amounts of military documents, including classified material, at her home, potentially in violation of federal law.
A source familiar with case told ABC News that Broadwell admitted to the FBI she took the documents from secure government buildings. The government demanded that they all be given back, and when federal agents descended on her North Carolina home on Monday night it was a pre-arranged meeting.
Prosecutors are now determining whether to charge Broadwell with a crime, and this morning the FBI and military are poring over the material. The 40-year-old author, who wrote the biography on Gen. Petraeus "All In," is cooperating and the case, which is complicated by the fact that as an intelligence officer in the U.S. Military Reserve she had security clearance to review the documents.
The FBI found classified material on a computer voluntarily handed over by Broadwell earlier in the investigation. Prosecutors will now have to determine how important the classified material is before making a final decision. Authorities could decide to seek disciplinary action against her rather than pursue charges.
197 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:40:28pm |
re: #190 Dark_Falcon
Formula 1 racing. Like the Indy 500.
No, it's like Indy for Euroweenies, I believe that Westboro Baptist guy is all out protesting it.
198 | engineer cat Wed, Nov 14, 2012 10:50:55pm |
sleep my little romney, sleep
nobody will reach out to you anymore with grubby, importunate fingers
no more rude questions from People Who Don't Know
no more Leadership
sleep now, just dreamless sleep
sleep safe behind your sturdy wall of money
know only quiet voices and deference
dreamless sleep, because you have dreamed all your dreams up
what is there left for you to dream, my little romney?
will you write a book about the emptyness?
build houses for the ungrateful multitude with your bare hands?
i thought not
where is there for you to rest?
only too-soft beds of needing nothing, wanting nothing, and having nothing left to strive for
an esquisitely upholstered hell
please surprise us, romney, and build a worthy mountain to climb, a noble thought that, succeed or fail
will let us think of you without shaking our heads at the pointlessness of it all
199 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 14, 2012 11:05:54pm |
re: #198 engineer cat
Yunno, I did not even dislike Mitt Romney until he started running for president. Heck, had I lived in Massachusetts in 2002 I woulda considered voting for him, he belonged to a now nearly extinct breed of moderate Republicans.
200 | Ben G. Hazi Wed, Nov 14, 2012 11:11:44pm |
re: #199 Sol Berdinowitz
Yunno, I did not even dislike Mitt Romney until he started running for president. Heck, had I lived in Massachusetts in 2002 I woulda considered voting for him, he belonged to a now nearly extinct breed of moderate Republicans.
And it was all a lie.
201 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 14, 2012 11:15:21pm |
re: #200 Ben G. Hazi
And it was all a lie.
Look at his record back then, it was still conservative on a lot of issues, but he instituted health care and supported women's right to choose. Those were issues that would have caused me to at least consider him as a candidate in 2002...
202 | Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Wed, Nov 14, 2012 11:15:50pm |
Could somebody tell me what the blue fuck this is supposed to mean?
I mean, I get the broad strokes, but what exactly does this person think they're saying?
203 | Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 14, 2012 11:22:16pm |
re: #202 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society
Could somebody tell me what the blue fuck this is supposed to mean?
I mean, I get the broad strokes, but what exactly does this person think they're saying?
Benghazi!
204 | freetoken Thu, Nov 15, 2012 12:30:15am |
205 | freetoken Thu, Nov 15, 2012 12:34:15am |
For our overnight flight, some Taneyev, the second part of his "After reading the Psalm":
206 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 12:43:23am |
207 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 12:46:33am |
The GOP had a chance to try and stop this, now it is beyond anyone's control:
Georgia GOPers hold meeting over Obama mind-control conspiracy
"Searcy also says that Obama, local chambers of commerce and liberal groups will try to accomplish this through a form of mind-control:
They do that by a process known as the Delphi technique. The Delphi technique was developed by the Rand Corporation during the Cold War as a mind-control technique. It’s also known as “consensive process.” But basically the goal of the Delphi technique is to lead a targeted group of people to a pre-determined outcome while keeping the illusion of being open to public input."
Duh. What else is our election process about except "leading a targeted group of people to a pre-determined outcome while keeping the illusion of being open to public input"?
210 | researchok Thu, Nov 15, 2012 12:56:27am |
re: #205 freetoken
There really is something to religiously inspired music.
I was looking for the right word- all I can come up with is ethereal.
211 | engineer cat Thu, Nov 15, 2012 12:59:32am |
The Delphi technique was developed by the Rand Corporation during the Cold War as a mind-control technique
wiksterpedia
The Delphi method is a structured communication technique, originally developed as a systematic, interactive forecasting method which relies on a panel of experts.
In the standard version, the experts answer questionnaires in two or more rounds. After each round, a facilitator provides an anonymous summary of the experts’ forecasts from the previous round as well as the reasons they provided for their judgments. Thus, experts are encouraged to revise their earlier answers in light of the replies of other members of their panel. It is believed that during this process the range of the answers will decrease and the group will converge towards the "correct" answer. Finally, the process is stopped after a pre-defined stop criterion (e.g. number of rounds, achievement of consensus, stability of results) and the mean or median scores of the final rounds determine the results.
Other versions, such as the Policy Delphi, have been designed for normative and explorative use, particularly in the area of social policy and public health. In Europe, more recent web-based experiments have used the Delphi method as a communication technique for interactive decision-making and e-democracy.
Delphi is based on the principle that forecasts (or decisions) from a structured group of individuals are more accurate than those from unstructured groups. This has been indicated with the term "collective intelligence". The technique can also be adapted for use in face-to-face meetings, and is then called mini-Delphi or Estimate-Talk-Estimate (ETE). Delphi has been widely used for business forecasting and has certain advantages over another structured forecasting approach, prediction markets.
rand corporation
RAND developed the Delphi method in the 1950s, originally to forecast the impact of technology on warfare. The method entails a group of experts who anonymously reply to questionnaires and subsequently receive feedback in the form of a statistical representation of the "group response," after which the process repeats itself. The goal is to reduce the range of responses and arrive at something closer to expert consensus. The Delphi Method has been widely adopted and is still in use today.
which universe to live in. such a difficult choice!
212 | Kragar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 1:05:02am |
re: #210 researchok
There really is something to religiously inspired music.
I was looking for the right word- all I can come up with is ethereal.
Ave maria - Chris Cornell 1997
213 | Amory Blaine Thu, Nov 15, 2012 1:21:02am |
As Benghazi As It Gets
Being Benghazi Malkovich
The Big Benghazi
The Benghazi Syndrome
The Wizard Of Banghazi
A Clockwork Benghazi
Hey I missed all the fun so there!!!
214 | researchok Thu, Nov 15, 2012 1:24:18am |
218 | Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Thu, Nov 15, 2012 2:42:41am |
re: #213 Amory Blaine
The Curious Case of Benghazi Button
Benghazi Danny Rose
The Discreet Charm of the Benghazi
Murder on the Benghazi Express
A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Benghazi
Au Hasard Benghazi
The Unbearable Lightness of Benghazi
Big Deal on Benghazi Street
222 | wheat-dogghazi Thu, Nov 15, 2012 3:48:52am |
The Untouchabenghazis
Silence of the Benghazis
Benghazidoon
Fiddler on the Benghazi
Man of La Benghazi
223 | Flounder Thu, Nov 15, 2012 4:09:38am |
An informative story about the Schoharie flood in upstate NY and the perils and pitfalls of actually having flood insurance.
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
If you read it to the end, they ended up buying a different house with the insurance money they fought very hard to collect.
224 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 4:38:30am |
1 degree of separation: the Israelis who were killed in Kiryat Malachi by Hamas rocket, were neighbors of my daughter-in-law. She grew up there.
225 | Flounder Thu, Nov 15, 2012 4:48:59am |
I just wanted to be able to post: the hostess with the mostest!
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
I am already tired of this "scandal".
227 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 4:51:13am |
BRYAN SUCKS SO HARD
Nothing the government does with a millionaire's dollar is better for the economy than what the millionaire does with it.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) November 15, 2012
228 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 4:52:43am |
Morning Honcos. How do I change my nic? I forget.
229 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 4:53:44am |
re: #227 Vicious Babushka
BRYAN SUCKS SO HARD
Nothing the government does with a millionaire's dollar is better for the economy than what the millionaire does with it.
Like shutting down domestic plants and outsourcing them to China?
230 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 4:54:47am |
re: #228 Cannadian Club Akbar
Morning Honcos. How do I change my nic? I forget.
open your account, there is a window for your "display name". Change it to "I Blow Goats (He has proof)"
231 | Flounder Thu, Nov 15, 2012 4:55:06am |
Click on your nicpic CCA?
I can't do it on my work computer.
232 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 4:55:09am |
re: #229 Sol Berdinowitz
Like shutting down domestic plants and outsourcing them to China?
Like stashing all those dollars in the Caymans?
235 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:03:19am |
A quick congrats to David Price of the Tampa Bay Rays for winning the Cy Young award.
236 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:05:47am |
From the "Are you fucking kidding me?" file:
Fla. homeless man arrested for charging phone in park, accused of theft
The sergeant told Kersey that the "theft of city utilities will not be tolerated during this bad economy" and then arrested him on a misdemeanor charge of theft of utilities.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
237 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:25:25am |
Sources: Colo. man plotted to kill children, president
[Link: www.9news.com...]
238 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:30:40am |
re: #236 Honorary Consul General
From the "Are you fucking kidding me?" file:
Fla. homeless man arrested for charging phone in park, accused of theft
The sergeant told Kersey that the "theft of city utilities will not be tolerated during this bad economy" and then arrested him on a misdemeanor charge of theft of utilities.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
The real charge was Grand Raggedness and Attempt to Be Poor.
239 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:33:40am |
re: #236 Honorary Consul General
From the "Are you fucking kidding me?" file:
Fla. homeless man arrested for charging phone in park, accused of theft
The sergeant told Kersey that the "theft of city utilities will not be tolerated during this bad economy" and then arrested him on a misdemeanor charge of theft of utilities.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
I think the policeman was upset at him for having an Obamaphone...
240 | Joanne Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:37:19am |
re: #236 Honorary Consul General
From the "Are you fucking kidding me?" file:
Fla. homeless man arrested for charging phone in park, accused of theft
The sergeant told Kersey that the "theft of city utilities will not be tolerated during this bad economy" and then arrested him on a misdemeanor charge of theft of utilities.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
Ah, Florida...where one town made it illegal to feed the homeless.
241 | Flounder Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:37:26am |
Florida wants homeless to charge their cell phones in the park, why put electrical outlets there? Just for hair dryers and curling irons?
Entrapment?!
242 | Stephen T. Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:38:05am |
GOP chairman Charlie Webster to investigate ‘black people’ voting as potential fraud
This is not a dog whistle. This is not Dixie. This is the GOP.
243 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:39:46am |
I know we always say this to the RWNJs as a joke but I never, ever, expected anyone to take it seriously...
My Son Asked Me Where We Can Go.
After tonight, I didn't have an answer.
What about Canada dad? I told him 'Sorry, they were socialist too.'
What about Mexico? 'Worse. Corruption from the top down.'
What about Brazil or Argentina dad? 'Comprende? State ownership of all assets.'
Dad, what about Europe? 'HAHAHAHAHA. Good one, kid.'
Russia? 'Oligarchies.'
.... hmmmmm.... he thought.... scratching his chin.
What about Iran? Can we go to Iran dad? 'Its probably our best bet son. The last patch of sunlight left on earth.'
Great job you have done on brainwashing your kid you dirtbag. :(
244 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:42:13am |
re: #240 Joanne
Ah, Florida...where one town made it illegal to feed the homeless.
Las Vegas Ordinance Makes it Illegal to Feed Homeless in Parks
[Link: www.8newsnow.com...]
245 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:43:05am |
Tragic: another death from terrorist attack, Sharf child passes away on the operating table. 4 Chabad members killed in Israel today.— YaacovBehrman (@ChabadLubavitch) November 15, 2012
246 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:49:33am |
247 | Flounder Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:52:01am |
Batman shooter makes 'half-hearted' suicide attempts
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
248 | Joanne Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:52:16am |
re: #244 Honorary Consul General
Las Vegas Ordinance Makes it Illegal to Feed Homeless in Parks
[Link: www.8newsnow.com...]
Jesus Christ, don't fucking law officials have anything better to do than worry about homeless people? Heartless fuckers every one.
249 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:56:13am |
re: #248 Joanne
Jesus Christ, don't fucking law officials have anything better to do than worry about homeless people? Heartless fuckers every one.
Bloomberg Strikes Again: NYC Bans Food Donations To The Homeless
Outlawed are food donations to homeless shelters because the city can’t assess their salt, fat and fiber content, reports CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer.
Glenn Richter arrived at a West Side synagogue on Monday to collect surplus bagels — fresh nutritious bagels — to donate to the poor. However, under a new edict from Bloomberg’s food police he can no longer donate the food to city homeless shelters.
[Link: newyork.cbslocal.com...]
251 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:59:04am |
Photo of Mirah (nee Cohen) Scharf.Mirah and her infant son were killed today in Israel by Hamas missiles. twitter.com/ChabadLubavitc...— YaacovBehrman (@ChabadLubavitch) November 15, 2012
252 | Flounder Thu, Nov 15, 2012 5:59:43am |
President Obama will be in NYC today to witness Sandy cleanup.
[Link: www.nbcchicago.com...]
253 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:00:35am |
re: #249 Honorary Consul General
ANd the winner of the asshole competition: SC Lt. Gov. Compares Poor People to 'Stray Animals'
254 | wheat-dogghazi Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:02:39am |
re: #252 Flounder
He should have a talk with Bloomberg about HCG's #249
255 | Flounder Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:04:45am |
From the Grapes of Wrath Tom Joad: "Seems like the government's got more interest in a dead man than a live one"
256 | BongCrodny Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:05:41am |
re: #242 Stephen T.
GOP chairman Charlie Webster to investigate ‘black people’ voting as potential fraud
This is not a dog whistle. This is not Dixie. This is the GOP.
Charlie's a clown, and Maine's Republicans will be much better off with him stepping down -- unless, of course, they double down on the crazy.
Here's an article from the Bangor Daily News last year about Charlie's "investigation" of another "alleged" voting fraud incident, this time by students:
GOP Chairman says university students behind voter fraud
Webster hand-delivered to the Secretary of State’s Office a list with
206 redacted names — all out-of-state students attending public Maine universities last year — and urged the office to determine whether those students voted legally.(Snip article for brevity)
Rep. Mike Carey, D-Lewiston, who attended Webster’s press conference, also said Webster’s continued search for evidence of fraud contradicts what Secretary of State Charlie Summers has said in the past: Maine elections are well run and instances of fraud are scarce.
Carey further criticized Webster for failing to provide any further details such as: How many of the 206 students named actually voted twice? How many of them registered in Maine on Election Day? How many officially declared primary residency in Maine?
Asked for those specifics, Webster said that he did not have the resources to get that data.
“I only dealt with what was the easiest thing to find,” the GOP chairman said.
It should be noted that Charlie Summers, Maine's Secretary of State and a Republican, conducted an investigation into the matter and found exactly one incident of voting fraud.
In 2002.
257 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:15:18am |
re: #248 Joanne
Jesus Christ, don't fucking law officials have anything better to do than worry about homeless people? Heartless fuckers every one.
Don't forget that it was Ronald Raygun who closed all the national mental health hospitals and put all these people out on the streets (or increasingly in jail) in the first place. There used to be facilities to care for people unable to function in society, now they are left to wander the street unless and until they become violent and go to prison or a psychiatric lockdown facility as a criminal.
258 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:16:24am |
re: #257 watching you tiny alien kittens are
Don't forget that it Ronald Raygun who closed all the national mental health hospitals and put all these people out on the streets (or increasingly in jail) in the first place. There used to be facilities to care for people unable to function in society, now they are left to wander the street unless and until they become violent and go to prison or a psychiatric lockdown facility to get all that great free struff from the government.
FTFY
/
260 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:24:58am |
I am trying to see if I can get one of my Palestinian friends to write a little piece on her frustrations.
I feel the Palestinians don't really get heard much on here, so I think this might be a good thing.
261 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:25:32am |
Best. Restaurant. Review. Ever.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
262 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:27:14am |
re: #260 ProGunLiberal
I am trying to see if I can get one of my Palestinian friends to write a little piece on her frustrations.
I feel the Palestinians don't really get heard much on here, so I think this might be a good thing.
I really don't give a shit about her FRUSTRATIONS. A Jewish family (from the same neighborhood where my daughter-in-law was raised) was murdered today because of Hamas FRUSTRATIONS.
263 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:28:12am |
Oak tree warning!
Chris Selley: Our kids are living in mortal fear — of oak trees
Donna Giustizia wants the City of Vaughan, Ont., to start chopping down oak trees lest their acorns wind up killing a child who has a severe tree-nut allergy — but more so, she told the National Post’s Sarah Boesveld on Tuesday, so that allergic kids feel safe. And she knows just what you’re thinking. “I’m not a crazy mom,” she told the Toronto Star. “I’m not asking for anything that’s not already there.” She means that the school itself, like all others in Ontario, is peanut-free. Why guard vigilantly against fatal anaphylaxis inside but not out?
Damn good question. Yes, allergists say that mere contact with acorns can’t kill anyone; but that’s the mainstream wisdom on peanuts as well. Yes, children aren’t squirrels, so tend not to eat acorns. But Ms. Giustizia fears they could be bullied into it. And hey, that could happen, right? Just Google “peanut allergy bullying” and read the horror stories.
264 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:28:56am |
re: #261 darthstar
The place can't even make Aioli right? Fuck 'em.
265 | Obdicut Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:29:48am |
re: #262 Vicious Babushka
Assuming that ProGunLiberal's friend isn't a Hamas supporter, that doesn't make much sense. Palestinians get murdered by Hamas too. And they die in reprisal attacks because Hamas fires from civilian locations.
My friend Fouzi has lost two family members over the past six years, one murdered by Hamas, and one dead from an Israeli shelling. He's a philosophical guy and doesn't blame Israel, but he's certainly also frustrated.
Palestinian deaths matter too.
266 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:29:50am |
re: #262 Vicious Babushka
I really don't give a shit about her FRUSTRATIONS. A Jewish family (from the same neighborhood where my daughter-in-law was raised) was murdered today because of Hamas FRUSTRATIONS.
Here's a short clip of multiple rockets being fired at #Israel from civilian areas in #Gaza youtu.be/wFiTTkSzQMo #IsraelUnderFire— IDF (@IDFSpokesperson) November 15, 2012
267 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:31:18am |
re: #262 Vicious Babushka
I really don't give a shit about her FRUSTRATIONS. A Jewish family (from the same neighborhood where my daughter-in-law was raised) was murdered today because of Hamas FRUSTRATIONS.
Hamas is not all the Palestinians, they are a political party. I know you are upset, but please be careful.
268 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:31:36am |
re: #262 Vicious Babushka
She feels the exact same way as you.
How do you think the BBC stringer who lost his son feels? Or the others on the Gaza strip who are civilians and have lost family. Palestinians are people too.
269 | wheat-dogghazi Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:31:58am |
re: #263 NJDhockeyfan
You know, I never had heard of peanut allergies until I was about 40 and a teacher. We had a student who was so sensitive he could go in anaphylactic shock from just the smell of peanut butter.
How come I never heard of peanut allergies when I was a kid? Is this a new thing, or was it just under my radar for 40 years?
270 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:32:22am |
re: #265 Obdicut
She's waiting for 3rd party to sweep Hamas and Fatah out.
271 | Obdicut Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:33:36am |
re: #269 wheat-dogghazi
You know, I never had heard of peanut allergies until I was about 40 and a teacher. We had a student who was so sensitive he could go in anaphylactic shock from just the smell of peanut butter.
How come I never heard of peanut allergies when I was a kid? Is this a new thing, or was it just under my radar for 40 years?
Allergies have increased, and probably not just through detection. There's lots of theories, but the main one is that kids are growing up in overly-hygienic environments. When you're not fighting off real infections and parasites, your immune system can get overactive-- which is what an allergy is, an overwrought immune response.
272 | Political Atheist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:34:12am |
re: #265 Obdicut
Great post. I'd just add that dialog and understanding is a preface to settling a war like this. Emotions get way high on this topic on any site. Yesterday NJD took some heat for linking a video here that then ran on major media news shows.
People need room to discuss this tough subject without getting shouted down.
273 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:35:13am |
re: #271 Obdicut
Allergies have increased, and probably not just through detection. There's lots of theories, but the main one is that kids are growing up in overly-hygienic environments. When you're not fighting off real infections and parasites, your immune system can get overactive-- which is what an allergy is, an overwrought immune response.
It's not that we used to live in filth until recently: most houses were kept tidy, but there were barns and stalls where the kids got exposed to dust and dirt and allergens. And woods and fields to play in.
I remember when this were all fields...
274 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:35:51am |
275 | wheat-dogghazi Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:36:09am |
re: #271 Obdicut
Weird, but it makes sense. I guess I lucked out not having any food allergies at all, but the tree pollen in the Ohio Valley used to lay me flat in May and June.
So, is this why some are also allergic to gluten, too?
276 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:36:49am |
EAT MOAR BOOGERS!!!
Nose Picking and the Theory of Eating Nasal Mucus to Help Our Immune Systems
In fact, one particular German doctor suggests not only always cleaning out your nose with your own finger(s), but also pulling pieces of mucus out of your nose and consuming it for good health.
[Link: voices.yahoo.com...]
277 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:37:06am |
re: #269 wheat-dogghazi
You know, I never had heard of peanut allergies until I was about 40 and a teacher. We had a student who was so sensitive he could go in anaphylactic shock from just the smell of peanut butter.
How come I never heard of peanut allergies when I was a kid? Is this a new thing, or was it just under my radar for 40 years?
I never heard of it either but it does exist. When I worked at a hotel in Connecticut we had someone come in for dinner one night who was severely allergic to all beans. We were told to not even let a string bean touch anything on the plate or he would go in to convulsions.
Now as far as cutting down oak trees because some kid might force another kid to eat an acorn, that's just plain stupid.
278 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:38:20am |
re: #268 ProGunLiberal
She feels the exact same way as you.
How do you think the BBC stringer who lost his son feels? Or the others on the Gaza strip who are civilians and have lost family. Palestinians are people too.
One dead baby on each side. The Magical Balance Fairy is SO HAPPY.
279 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:39:37am |
re: #272 Daniel Ballard
Great post. I'd just add that dialog and understanding is a preface to settling a war like this. Emotions get way high on this topic on any site. Yesterday NJD took some heat for linking a video here that then ran on major media news shows.
People need room to discuss this tough subject without getting shouted down.
I just posted a video connected with an IDF tweet. I am expecting more warmonger outrage.
280 | Obdicut Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:41:12am |
re: #272 Daniel Ballard
I'd definitely rather NJD post IDF videos than videos from raving nutjob anti-semitic lunatics, so that's cool.
However, it is important to remember that the IDF stuff is literally propaganda. I'm kind of uncomfortable with the macho posturing that they've been doing via twitter. It is equally important to remember that no matter how targeted the bomb, how smart the missile, you're going to wind up killing innocents. This isn't an argument against any military action, but it is really important to keep in mind. The brother, mother, sister, wife, friend of someone killed by an Israeli attack, even if they know they were targeting the terrorists, even if they're sober-hearted, is likely to make them more hostile towards Israel, and less believing in the possibility of peace.
I am not a military dude. Figuring out if this sort of attack is a good idea is nigh unto impossible. Obviously Israel just taking rocket attack after rocket attack, Israeli citizens dying is going to provoke a response. I think that Iron Dome is a great thing to showcase because it shows Israelis working to prevent attacks, being defensive. However, I don't have any real hope that this campaign will do more than create a temporary reprieve from rocket attacks, and if it does turn into a ground invasion things could escalate and get very ugly very quickly.
I think the IDF fucked up with that braddadocio tweet, and I really wish they'd keep their statements as clinical and un-posturing as possible. Israel has a right to defend itself, civilian deaths are always going to occur and don't invalidate a military action, but I really think that was a misstep in the propaganda part of the awr.
281 | Obdicut Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:42:27am |
re: #275 wheat-dogghazi
Weird, but it makes sense. I guess I lucked out not having any food allergies at all, but the tree pollen in the Ohio Valley used to lay me flat in May and June.
So, is this why some are also allergic to gluten, too?
I'm really not an expert on this, I'm just repeating what my wife has said. Here's UCLA's take on it.
[Link: fooddrugallergy.ucla.edu...]
282 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:42:32am |
283 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:42:38am |
re: #278 Vicious Babushka
Where was I doing an MBF?
I was pointing out the Palestinians in Gaza are going through their own tribulations. And not all Palestinians on the West Bank are Hamas.
284 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:42:42am |
re: #279 NJDhockeyfan
I just posted a video connected with an IDF tweet. I am expecting more warmonger outrage.
I refuse to watch war porn.
285 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:45:20am |
Rockets are getting close to Tel Aviv
BREAKING: Rocket alert warning siren sounds in Rishon Letzion, south of Tel Aviv bit.ly/TKBX3C— Haaretz.com (@haaretzcom) November 15, 2012
286 | Flounder Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:49:29am |
The man who accused Elmo Muppeteer Kevin Clash of having sex with him when he was underage has been identified as a wannabe model with multiple prior arrests — including one for a knifepoint robbery, according to a report.
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
He does have pretty eyes...
287 | wheat-dogghazi Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:52:28am |
re: #281 Obdicut
Thanks. I'll check it tomorrow. Bedtime here now.
289 | Joanne Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:55:46am |
re: #249 Honorary Consul General
Bloomberg Strikes Again: NYC Bans Food Donations To The Homeless
Outlawed are food donations to homeless shelters because the city can’t assess their salt, fat and fiber content, reports CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer.Glenn Richter arrived at a West Side synagogue on Monday to collect surplus bagels — fresh nutritious bagels — to donate to the poor. However, under a new edict from Bloomberg’s food police he can no longer donate the food to city homeless shelters.
[Link: newyork.cbslocal.com...]
FREEDOM!!!11!
It is far, far better to starve to death than to ingest too much salt.
290 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:56:02am |
Yes, Mitt...McCain is beating you...again.
Romney can't even win the race to be the the most bitter dude Obama beat for POTUS. Loser.— Kaili Joy Gray (@KailiJoy) November 15, 2012
291 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:56:14am |
re: #285 Vicious Babushka
Rockets are getting close to Tel Aviv
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There are also reports that Hamas has some shoulder-launch anti-aircraft missiles in stock. I hope the IDF knows where they are being stored and destroys them.
292 | Joanne Thu, Nov 15, 2012 6:58:26am |
re: #257 watching you tiny alien kittens are
Don't forget that it was Ronald Raygun who closed all the national mental health hospitals and put all these people out on the streets (or increasingly in jail) in the first place. There used to be facilities to care for people unable to function in society, now they are left to wander the street unless and until they become violent and go to prison or a psychiatric lockdown facility as a criminal.
That was what turned me from Reagan and the GOP. That one thing turned me into a raging, die-hard, bleeding heart liberal.
293 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:00:50am |
Some good GawkerWonkette today:
Mitt Romney Drops By To Make Sure You Still Loathe Him bit.ly/UG5aAW— Wonkette (@Wonkette) November 15, 2012
Mitt Romney was lonely. A week after the election, and all anybody was laughing at was Karl Rove and Fox News and Dick Morris and Gallup, and people had kind of forgotten Mitt himself, the onetime standard-bearer of the GOP. Had he himself not shit the bed? Was he not the master of his own destiny? How come nobody was blaming him for the Republican Party smashing itself to pieces? Well, the Tea Party was, but did they even count, with their manmade, unbreathable fabrics and their slipcovered couches? No, for Mitt Romney to be blamed properly, it must be by the Elite, not the anti-government warriors scraping by month to month on their disability checks.
294 | Joanne Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:03:19am |
re: #269 wheat-dogghazi
You know, I never had heard of peanut allergies until I was about 40 and a teacher. We had a student who was so sensitive he could go in anaphylactic shock from just the smell of peanut butter.
How come I never heard of peanut allergies when I was a kid? Is this a new thing, or was it just under my radar for 40 years?
My husband and I said the same thing. We're both early 50's. Not one person I knew had peanut allergies when I was in school. Him either.
Now, kids are allergic to peanuts, milk, lots of things.
I don't know what changed, but something sure did.
295 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:03:44am |
Happy dog!
@jaketapper RT @samir: This guy just got home from Afghanistan twitter.com/samir/status/2...— Mark Bult (@markjbult) November 15, 2012
296 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:05:18am |
If a terrorist group was launching rockets from Mexico into 25% of the US, this is what it would look like. ow.ly/fiBR3— Bethany S. Mandel (@bethanyshondark) November 14, 2012
297 | Joanne Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:05:19am |
re: #271 Obdicut
Allergies have increased, and probably not just through detection. There's lots of theories, but the main one is that kids are growing up in overly-hygienic environments. When you're not fighting off real infections and parasites, your immune system can get overactive-- which is what an allergy is, an overwrought immune response.
I grew up with old steam radiators which collected dust. We had a relatively clean house, nothing like an eat-off-the-floor thing, but those radiators were always dusty (one was about three feet long with many "spirals") and I am allergic to dust.
Only one real-life thing, but there you have it/ :-)
298 | Joanne Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:06:13am |
299 | Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:06:53am |
re: #280 Obdicut
Every action has an unequal and opposite reaction when humans are involved. Everything that happens in this situation helps to self-reinforce the two-way hatred. Rockets fired into Israel, Israel responds with missile strikes or military action, innocent collateral casualties happen, which reinforce the hatred, and the loop continues.
You can equally apply what you said to America's situation: it seems like every time a terrorist is blown up by a flying death toy, there is collateral damage in the form of innocent people. That reinforces their hatred of us, at which some point will lead to an act of "terror," which will reinforce our hatred of them, meaning more people get blown up, and the cycle repeats itself.
There will most likely never be an end to any of it. Not until somebody decides to proverbially "turn the other cheek."
300 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:07:58am |
Man Cut Almost All of Girlfriend's Nose Off: Police
A man was arrested for cutting almost all of his girlfriend's nose off after she refused to have sex with him, Fort Lauderdale Police said.
[Link: www.nbcmiami.com...]
301 | Mich-again Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:10:00am |
re: #299 Ghost of Tom Joad
Every action has an unequal and opposite reaction when humans are involved. Everything that happens in this situation helps to self-reinforce the two-way hatred. Rockets fired into Israel, Israel responds with missile strikes or military action, innocent collateral casualties happen, which reinforce the hatred, and the loop continues.
You can equally apply what you said to America's situation: it seems like every time a terrorist is blown up by a flying death toy, there is collateral damage in the form of innocent people. That reinforces their hatred of us, at which some point will lead to an act of "terror," which will reinforce our hatred of them, meaning more people get blown up, and the cycle repeats itself.
There will most likely never be an end to any of it. Not until somebody decides to proverbially "turn the other cheek."
The pendulum can only stop in the middle. Pushing it past the center just builds up momentum for the reverse swing.
302 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:10:24am |
re: #269 wheat-dogghazi
You know, I never had heard of peanut allergies until I was about 40 and a teacher. We had a student who was so sensitive he could go in anaphylactic shock from just the smell of peanut butter.
How come I never heard of peanut allergies when I was a kid? Is this a new thing, or was it just under my radar for 40 years?
Probably also mis-diagnosed in the past as something else. Asthma, etc.
303 | Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:11:29am |
re: #294 Joanne
Could be a million things. I'd take a guess that it's likely to do with some chemical change in what people are exposed to these days. All kinds of processed crap, loads of pesticides/chemicals, hell, even pollution in the air, or water. Unless you eat completely certified organic and live in a bubble, you can't avoid it.
304 | GunstarGreen Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:15:00am |
re: #15 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society
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Jesus Christ, don't wingnuts have anything better to do than parse everything the president says for hidden potential perfidiousness?
No, because that's their job.
For-profit media does not exist to inform the public, it exists to make money. It makes money not be informing the public, but by entertaining the public.
Loesch's job, the thing she is paid to do, is to entertain people that hate Obama.
305 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:17:50am |
I put up with 18 months of #Romney running just so I could see the GOP attack him like a pack of rabid dogs.Entertainment! #p2 #thankyou— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) November 15, 2012
306 | Joanne Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:18:05am |
re: #300 Honorary Consul General
Man Cut Almost All of Girlfriend's Nose Off: Police
A man was arrested for cutting almost all of his girlfriend's nose off after she refused to have sex with him, Fort Lauderdale Police said.
[Link: www.nbcmiami.com...]
Who knew Caesar Milan was nuts? :-D
307 | erik_t Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:18:12am |
Question. Has anyone heard any non-wingnut mention Benghazi in the last, oh, month and a half, outside of answers to direct wingnut questions? If the GOP thinks this conspiracy nonsense is going to make popular hay, they'd sure need it to become a watercooler sort of topic. On the contrary, I have not encountered it a single time in meatspace.
308 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:22:31am |
"Hours before Hamas' Ahmed Jabari was assassinated, he received the draft of a permanent truce agreement with Israel" haaretz.com/news/diplomacy...— Matt Duss (@mattduss) November 15, 2012
309 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:23:06am |
re: #277 NJDhockeyfan
I never heard of it either but it does exist. When I worked at a hotel in Connecticut we had someone come in for dinner one night who was severely allergic to all beans. We were told to not even let a string bean touch anything on the plate or he would go in to convulsions.
Now as far as cutting down oak trees because some kid might force another kid to eat an acorn, that's just plain stupid.
Basically, if the mother is that concerned, she might consider moving somewhere where deciduous trees do not grow, like the edge of the Tundra
310 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:25:17am |
re: #308 darthstar
"Hours before Hamas' Ahmed Jabari was assassinated, he received the draft of a permanent truce agreement with Israel"
The source of this "bombshell" (pardon the expression) comes from Gershon Baskin, who is just as delusional as M.J. Rosenberg.
311 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:28:21am |
Wingnut talking about the woman in Arizona who ran over her husband for not voting...
Justifiable Vehicular Assault?
She might have gotten a little carried away. But if the jury takes into account that she regarded her husband as partially responsible for Obama’s reelection — the most prominent milestone in America’s decline and quite possibly the most disgusting event in human history — they are sure to go easy on her:
312 | Joanne Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:29:34am |
re: #311 watching you tiny alien kittens are
Wingnut talking about the woman in Arizona who ran over her husband for not voting...
Justifiable Vehicular Assault?
She might have gotten a little carried away. But if the jury takes into account that she regarded her husband as partially responsible for Obama’s reelection — the most prominent milestone in America’s decline and quite possibly the most disgusting event in human history — they are sure to go easy on her:
TOTALLY the party of Tough on Crime!
313 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:30:44am |
re: #311 watching you tiny alien kittens are
Wingnut talking about the woman in Arizona who ran over her husband for not voting...
This is an aspect of wingnuttery that botzhers me, it has somehow begun to accept threats and acts of violence as viable alternatives to civil discourse and democratic decision-making.
314 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:31:05am |
re: #310 Vicious Babushka
The source of this "bombshell" (pardon the expression) comes from Gershon Baskin, who is just as delusional as M.J. Rosenberg.
Yeah, are we to believe this guy suddenly would agree to a truce?
...He has been credited with making the terrorist group’s military wing increasingly more professional.
It was Jabari who personally oversaw the kidnapping and imprisonment of kidnapped IDF soldier Gilad Schalit.
A shadowy figure who deliberately kept a low profile and rarely made public appearances, such was his involvement in the Schalit kidnapping that he allowed himself to be photographed last October as he escorted the IDF soldier to Gaza’s Rafah Crossing on the day of his release last year.
After Schalit’s release, Jabari said Hamas planned to kidnap more Israeli soldiers and officers, to use them as bargaining chips for the release of Palestinian prisoners.
...
315 | makeitstop Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:33:36am |
Morning, Lizardos...
I'm just jumping in here, so apologies if anyone posted this. Behold the sheer business acumen of one John Metz...
John Metz, Denny's Franchisee And Hurricane Grill & Wings Owner, Imposes Surcharge For Obamacare
"If I leave the prices the same, but say on the menu that there is a 5 percent surcharge for Obamacare, customers have two choices. They can either pay it and tip 15 or 20 percent, or if they really feel so inclined, they can reduce the amount of tip they give to the server, who is the primary beneficiary of Obamacare," Metz told The Huffington Post. "Although it may sound terrible that I'm doing this, it's the only alternative. I've got to pass the cost on to the consumer."
I think he's missing the option where people go to the TGI Fridays down the street.
316 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:34:35am |
Breaking: A rocket fired from Gaza struck an open area near Rishon LeZion, a city with more than 200,000 people. #IsraelUnderFire— IDF (@IDFSpokesperson) November 15, 2012
317 | Obdicut Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:35:44am |
re: #315 makeitstop
Morning, Lizardos...
I'm just jumping in here, so apologies if anyone posted this. Behold the sheer business acumen of one John Metz...
John Metz, Denny's Franchisee And Hurricane Grill & Wings Owner, Imposes Surcharge For Obamacare
I think he's missing the option where people go to the TGI Fridays down the street.
Or where he accepts a lower profit margin. I don't get all these supposed masters of business who are running their companies so close to the red all the time.
318 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:36:28am |
re: #314 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah, are we to believe this guy suddenly would agree to a truce?
I read the whole article on Haaretz. Gershon Baskin is just self-promoting a "peace agreement" that he made up by himself. He is a private citizen who holds no position in the Israeli government and has no authority to conduct negotiations. So it is complete bullshit.
319 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:36:32am |
re: #315 makeitstop
Morning, Lizardos...
I'm just jumping in here, so apologies if anyone posted this. Behold the sheer business acumen of one John Metz...
John Metz, Denny's Franchisee And Hurricane Grill & Wings Owner, Imposes Surcharge For Obamacare
I think he's missing the option where people go to the TGI Fridays down the street.
This has nothing to do with making sound business decisions, this is about throwing a temper tantrum. It has to do with knowing how to run a business but not knowing how to run a country.
320 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:37:14am |
A silly little post from WND...
A perfect Union run by sinful men is impossible.
And if you form a Repblic, you will have the same Ideology that elad to world wide ruin in the First Place.
Christian Monarchy, limited Government and absolute property Rights,not a Collectivist Secular Republic, is whats needed.
Yes he wants a "christian" King of America, an earlier post was longer but so full of typos that it is practically illegible.
321 | dragonath Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:37:55am |
re: #315 makeitstop
The people doing this are the ones who would never, ever "pass the savings on to the consumer". Ha.
Most people like being served food by healthy, happy people.
Also:
Minimum Wage For Restaurant Servers Remains Stagnant For 20 Years Under Industry Lobbying
322 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:38:31am |
IDF Aircraft Target Rockets Warehouse in Gaza
that's one rocket that won't leave gaza.
323 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:40:07am |
324 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:40:29am |
re: #315 makeitstop
Morning, Lizardos...
I'm just jumping in here, so apologies if anyone posted this. Behold the sheer business acumen of one John Metz...
John Metz, Denny's Franchisee And Hurricane Grill & Wings Owner, Imposes Surcharge For Obamacare
I think he's missing the option where people go to the TGI Fridays down the street.
Franchises want to protect their brand. I suspect Denny's will be contacting Mr. Metz and asking him to reconsider. The prices are set at a corporate level, just like the recipes, menu items, the mix of grape and strawberry jelly on the tables, and the shape of the coffee cups. Adding a 5% surcharge for Obamacare probably violates his franchise contract.
And yes, if people come in, see the 5% surcharge and start walking out, Denny's (who likely reviews his monthly sales figures) will take notice.
325 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:42:00am |
re: #322 Killgore Trout
IDF Aircraft Target Rockets Warehouse in Gaza
[Embedded content]
that's one rocket that won't leave gaza.
Did you read the comments? Look at this sick shit.
I hope IRAN destroys israel with a thousand nukes because thats what you deserve you fucking jew scumbags you'll be nothing but ashes when you face a real military force, untill then, keep murdering innocent children and women because thats all you can do, fucking jews your time will be over soon
Lushoo Floyd 55 minutes ago
326 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:42:38am |
re: #321 dragonath
The people doing this are the ones who would never, ever "pass the savings on to the consumer". Ha.
Most people like being served food by healthy, happy people.
Also:
Minimum Wage For Restaurant Servers Remains Stagnant For 20 Years Under Industry Lobbying
I find it funny that wait people bitch about their wage but don't claim all their tips for taxes went walking out with $100 after a 6 hour shift.
327 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:42:48am |
re: #325 NJDhockeyfan
Did you read the comments? Look at this sick shit.
YouTube comments are always sick shit, same as Yahoo.
328 | Mich-again Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:44:31am |
re: #324 darthstar
Franchises want to protect their brand. I suspect Denny's will be contacting Mr. Metz and asking him to reconsider. The prices are set at a corporate level, just like the recipes, menu items, the mix of grape and strawberry jelly on the tables, and the shape of the coffee cups. Adding a 5% surcharge for Obamacare probably violates his franchise contract.
And yes, if people come in, see the 5% surcharge and start walking out, Denny's (who likely reviews his monthly sales figures) will take notice.
Brilliant! Run a restaurant and then insult more than half the people who walk in the door.
329 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:46:34am |
re: #325 NJDhockeyfan
Did you read the comments? Look at this sick shit.
Yep...which is why one should avoid war porn. You get all excited about a conflict(kill them brown fuckers!), then some asshole comes along and says something awful about your side, and rather than ignoring it, somehow the full quote gets posted to another site, so more people can be disgusted by a single idiot they neither know nor care about, and one that obviously isn't aware of Iran's nuclear capabilities (real or imagined).
330 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:47:27am |
re: #324 darthstar
Franchises want to protect their brand. I suspect Denny's will be contacting Mr. Metz and asking him to reconsider. The prices are set at a corporate level, just like the recipes, menu items, the mix of grape and strawberry jelly on the tables, and the shape of the coffee cups. Adding a 5% surcharge for Obamacare probably violates his franchise contract.
And yes, if people come in, see the 5% surcharge and start walking out, Denny's (who likely reviews his monthly sales figures) will take notice.
I assume that thereis some price flexibility to account for local conditions, but that does not cover Obamacare, which is a national law.
I do hope that people put pressure on Denny's to cause this guy to reconsider.
Of course, we could just a) raise prices 20%, b) eliminate tipping altogether and c) pay employees a reasonable wage with benefits...
331 | compound_Idaho Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:48:01am |
re: #317 Obdicut
Or where he accepts a lower profit margin. I don't get all these supposed masters of business who are running their companies so close to the red all the time.
[Link: smallbusiness.chron.com...]
Full-Service Restaurants
Full-service restaurants at all levels spent about 32 percent of each dollar on the cost of food and beverages, 33 percent on salaries and wages, and from 5 percent to 6 percent on restaurant occupancy costs. Profit margins, however, varied according to the cost of the average check per person. Those with checks under $15 showed a profit of 3 percent. Those with checks from $15 to $24.99 boasted the highest profit margin at 3.5 percent. Finally, those with checks of $25 and over had the lowest profits, at 1.8 percent.
332 | dragonath Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:48:09am |
re: #326 Honorary Consul General
I find it funny that wait people bitch about their wage but don't claim all their tips for taxes went walking out with $100 after a 6 hour shift.
Uh, you own a restaurant or something? The minimum wage for tipped servers in my state is $2.83 an hour.
That's the same kind thinking that the GOP candidate for governor in Minnesota had, where he claimed waiters were making $100,000 dollars a year in tips.
The owner of the Eagle Street Grill told a Star Tribune columnist on Tuesday that none of his servers make $100,000 a year. Republican gubernatorial candidate Tom Emmer used an example of Eagle Street servers making that kind of money as a reason to institute a “tip credit” in Minnesota, which would lower servers’ minimum wage pay.
333 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:48:38am |
re: #325 NJDhockeyfan
Did you read the comments? Look at this sick shit.
Yeah, I was just looking at the comments on IDF videos. There seems to be an attempt to report the videos to have them taken down by youtube.
334 | Obdicut Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:50:18am |
re: #331 compound_Idaho
I'm sure you had a point there, but dadgum if you forgot to make it.
335 | Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:50:41am |
re: #332 dragonath
When you're making below mandated minimum wage, you deserve to take home your tips free of taxes.
336 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:50:52am |
re: #332 dragonath
Uh, no. But I was in the industry for 25 years including being an AGM of a place that did $3.5M a year and helped open an indy place and helped him to be profitable enough to open a second one.
337 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:51:29am |
re: #332 dragonath
Uh, you own a restaurant or something? The minimum wage for tipped servers in my state is $2.83 an hour.
That's the same kind thinking that the GOP candidate for governor in Minnesota had, where he claimed waiters were making $100,000 dollars in tips.
Tipped servers are lucky if they make 30K a year...at 100 bucks a day that's only 24k and anyone who has waited tables for a living knows (I did for some time), there are far more under $40 days than there are over $100.
338 | Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:51:46am |
re: #334 Obdicut
It looked something along the lines of "won't somebody please think of the poor, struggling restaurant owners!"
339 | dragonath Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:52:33am |
re: #334 Obdicut
I'm sure you had a point there, but dadgum if you forgot to make it.
Taxes only apply to the little people.
340 | makeitstop Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:54:04am |
re: #331 compound_Idaho
[Link: smallbusiness.chron.com...]
Full-Service Restaurants
Full-service restaurants at all levels spent about 32 percent of each dollar on the cost of food and beverages, 33 percent on salaries and wages, and from 5 percent to 6 percent on restaurant occupancy costs. Profit margins, however, varied according to the cost of the average check per person. Those with checks under $15 showed a profit of 3 percent. Those with checks from $15 to $24.99 boasted the highest profit margin at 3.5 percent. Finally, those with checks of $25 and over had the lowest profits, at 1.8 percent.
Whatever. I'd guess that people will look at this guys menu, say '5% surcharge? WTF?' and go somewhere else.
Cite all the facts and figures you want. Dumb idea is dumb.
341 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:54:13am |
Italy does not have a tipping concept, above leaving loose coins. Instead, it requires the waiters be treated just like...uh...citizens.
342 | Obdicut Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:54:23am |
re: #337 darthstar
Tipped servers are lucky if they make 30K a year...at 100 bucks a day that's only 24k and anyone who has waited tables for a living knows (I did for some time), there are far more under $40 days than there are over $100.
Being a bartender was a nice job for me back in the day, but the only time I cracked 40K as a bartender I was working 70 hours a week. Granted, the ones in the ultra-expensive places make more but there are far more just guys pulling pints down at the tavern.
343 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:55:19am |
I live in a country where tipping is a matter of rounding the bill up to the nearest ful amount, where waiters and waitresses arepaid a peopler wage with benefits and where restaurant owners still manage to stay in business, which indicates they are making a profit.
How do they do it without resucing their workflorce to chattel slaves with no way of knowing how much they are going to earn from week to week?
344 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:56:09am |
When waitresses used to piss me off I would tell them they can be replaced with a buffet. Heh. (I also waited tables in my life)
345 | Obdicut Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:57:20am |
re: #341 Decatur Deb
Italy does not have a tipping concept, above leaving loose coins. Instead, it requires the waiters be treated just like...uh...citizens.
Tipping is both great and terrible. The best way to make big tips is to aggressively push high-shelf stuff on people, which I don't really like doing. It's like any other market; the highest reward doesn't go to the hardest workers, it goes to the people who figure out the system and exploit it best.
Some people will die fighting for the tipping system because they like the illusion of control they have in declining to leave some poor overworked server whose manager just screwed him with a 7-top a tip. They're idiots.
346 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:58:08am |
Dave Blount over at Moonbattery is on a real roll since Obama's re-election, sorry no linky, that place is rapidly turning into Stormfront or maybe worse...
Liberalism is the total inversion of values. Whatever a sane person reveres, a liberal denigrates. That which the healthy see as flaws, liberals regard as noble attributes. Unless you are depraved, you probably consider intelligence as a plus. Unsurprisingly, our liberal rulers hold stupidity in such high esteem that it can earn murderers a reprieve from death row:
"Ronell Wilson (pictured) has already been convicted of the point-blank shooting deaths of Detectives Rodney Andrews and James Nemorin during a 2003 undercover gun buy-and-bust operation on Staten Island. …
Wilson’s attorneys insist that he should not be eligible for the death penalty — because of his low intellect.
They’re citing a landmark US Supreme Court ruling that bars execution of the mentally incompetent."
If Ronell Wilson is not executed because he is stupid, then those who are executed die because they are intelligent. This makes perfect sense in a country that would elect and reelect Barack Hussein Obama.
347 | Pawn of the Oppressor Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:58:58am |
re: #300 Honorary Consul General
Man Cut Almost All of Girlfriend's Nose Off: Police
A man was arrested for cutting almost all of his girlfriend's nose off after she refused to have sex with him, Fort Lauderdale Police said.
[Link: www.nbcmiami.com...]
florida
348 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:00:02am |
re: #344 Honorary Consul General
When waitresses used to piss me off I would tell them they can be replaced with a buffet. Heh. (I also waited tables in my life)
I can't remember an instance of being pissed off by a waitress. I do remember really pissing off a date when I dropped a bottle of ketchup and got down to help the waitress clean it up.
349 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:00:44am |
re: #348 Decatur Deb
I can't remember an instance of being pissed off by a waitress. I do remember really pissing off a date when I dropped a bottle of ketchup and got down to help the waitress clean it up.
No, I meant the ones I worked with. Sorry.
350 | blueraven Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:00:51am |
re: #331 compound_Idaho
[Link: smallbusiness.chron.com...]
Full-Service Restaurants
Full-service restaurants at all levels spent about 32 percent of each dollar on the cost of food and beverages, 33 percent on salaries and wages, and from 5 percent to 6 percent on restaurant occupancy costs. Profit margins, however, varied according to the cost of the average check per person. Those with checks under $15 showed a profit of 3 percent. Those with checks from $15 to $24.99 boasted the highest profit margin at 3.5 percent. Finally, those with checks of $25 and over had the lowest profits, at 1.8 percent.
You realize these are figures from 2010, 2009, and 2008 right?...arguably the worst years in decades.
These profit margins come from three years of negative sales growth, according to the National Restaurant Association. However, as the economy continues to improve for 2011, the association forecasts a 3.6 percent increase in sales over 2010, which equals a real 1.1 percent increase when adjusted from inflation. The strongest sales growth --- over 5 percent --- and profits will be with social caterers, hotel restaurants and nursing homes. The South Atlantic part of the country will post the strongest sales growth, with North Carolina, Idaho and Virginia leading the pack. Establishments who take advantage of social media, mobile phone applications and online review sites can increase their profitability. This is because more consumers are relying on this technology to determine where to eat.
351 | BongCrodny Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:03:11am |
re: #346 watching you tiny alien kittens are
Dave Blount over at Moonbattery is on a real roll since Obama's re-election, sorry no linky, that place is rapidly turning into Stormfront or maybe worse...
Liberalism is the total inversion of values. Whatever a sane person reveres, a liberal denigrates. That which the healthy see as flaws, liberals regard as noble attributes. Unless you are depraved, you probably consider intelligence as a plus. Unsurprisingly, our liberal rulers hold stupidity in such high esteem that it can earn murderers a reprieve from death row:
Last time I checked, it wasn't liberals who were arguing that we have too many people going to college.
Fox News Viewers Know Less Than People Who Don't Watch Any News: Study
352 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:04:06am |
re: #345 Obdicut
Tipping is both great and terrible. The best way to make big tips is to aggressively push high-shelf stuff on people, which I don't really like doing. It's like any other market; the highest reward doesn't go to the hardest workers, it goes to the people who figure out the system and exploit it best.
Some people will die fighting for the tipping system because they like the illusion of control they have in declining to leave some poor overworked server whose manager just screwed him with a 7-top a tip. They're idiots.
Though a lot of places put a default serving charge on the bill for large tables. I think 18% is quite common around Philly. Though then you can debate how much of that 18% the server actually gets.
353 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:07:33am |
YouTube removes video of Israeli strike on Hamas commanderI've seen a couple articles about the video being taken down but it seems to have already been restored.
354 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:08:22am |
I had this conversation at least once a week for 4 1/2 years:
"WTF do you mean you're out of soup? Did someone steal it? Oh, you're just now telling me. I see. Well it is a cream based soup, so while I'm heating some you can tell your table they have to wait because you don't comprehend the word "communication". (kinda one sided conversation)
355 | brennant Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:10:33am |
re: #341 Decatur Deb
Italy does not have a tipping concept, above leaving loose coins. Instead, it requires the waiters be treated just like...uh...citizens.
I was with a tour group in Florence... one group in our party proceeded to treat the waitress where we were like total shit for not immediately moving two tables together, as if their weakling arms couldn't move them together on their own. The waitress was tearing up she was so upset. Our table (6 or 8 of us) just unloaded euros on her, and apologized for the shitty Americans next to us.
That's right. We apologized for America. I think I bowed at least once.
356 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:10:40am |
re: #354 Honorary Consul General
I had this conversation at least once a week for 4 1/2 years:
"WTF do you mean you're out of soup? Did someone steal it? Oh, you're just now telling me. I see. Well it is a cream based soup, so while I'm heating some you can tell your table they have to wait because you don't comprehend the word "communication". (kinda one sided conversation)
Manager's quest: "Find someone smart enough to do the job and dumb enough to take the pay".
357 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:12:32am |
re: #353 Killgore Trout
YouTube removes video of Israeli strike on Hamas commanderI've seen a couple articles about the video being taken down but it seems to have already been restored.
The fact is that the footage is no different than the sort of airstrike footage CNN has been airing during US military operations since Operation: Desert Storm in 1991. It's not a gore fest, and the footage does have legitimate news value.
358 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:12:47am |
re: #356 Decatur Deb
Manager's quest: "Find someone smart enough to do the job and dumb enough to take the pay".
"I need you to put up with bullshit for hours on end, deal with bad customers and dipshit fellow employees alike, work long shifts that will leave you mentally and physically exhausted, and pick up shifts when your fellow employees find ways to avoid work. What's the pay like? Below minimum wage, but you'll make it up in tips....Hello?"
359 | Eventual Carrion Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:13:17am |
re: #315 makeitstop
Morning, Lizardos...
I'm just jumping in here, so apologies if anyone posted this. Behold the sheer business acumen of one John Metz...
John Metz, Denny's Franchisee And Hurricane Grill & Wings Owner, Imposes Surcharge For Obamacare
I think he's missing the option where people go to the TGI Fridays down the street.
Maybe he should charge a 120% surcharge to help pay for the fucking Iraq war debt.
360 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:13:29am |
re: #356 Decatur Deb
Manager's quest: "Find someone smart enough to do the job and dumb enough to take the pay".
At Hooters, the managers go to colleges and clubs and so on and approach girls to work there, no experience necessary. I know this because I almost went to work for them.
361 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:14:59am |
re: #360 Honorary Consul General
At Hooters, the managers go to colleges and clubs and so on and approach girls to work there, no experience necessary. I know this because I almost went to work for them.
I thought you're a guy?
362 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:15:10am |
re: #355 brennant
I was with a tour group in Florence... one group in our party proceeded to treat the waitress where we were like total shit for not immediately moving two tables together, as if their weakling arms couldn't move them together on their own. The waitress was tearing up she was so upset. Our table (6 or 8 of us) just unloaded euros on her, and apologized for the shitty Americans next to us.
That's right. We apologized for America. I think I bowed at least once.
Our daughter was a waitress/dishwasher at the village pizzeria. The boss hired her to attract English-only GIs from the base. Owner's wife never referred to her except as "la Bionda".
363 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:15:27am |
364 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:16:22am |
re: #360 Honorary Consul General
At Hooters, the managers go to colleges and clubs and so on and approach girls to work there, no experience necessary. I know this because I almost went to work for them.
What are your measurements?
365 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:16:52am |
366 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:17:10am |
re: #362 Decatur Deb
Our daughter was a waitress/dishwasher at the village pizzeria. The boss hired her to attract English-only GIs from the base. Owner's wife never referred to her except as "la Bionda".
Do I want to know what that means?
367 | Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:17:13am |
re: #354 Honorary Consul General
I had this conversation at least once a week for 4 1/2 years:
"WTF do you mean you're out of soup? Did someone steal it? Oh, you're just now telling me. I see. Well it is a cream based soup, so while I'm heating some you can tell your table they have to wait because you don't comprehend the word "communication". (kinda one sided conversation)
"Waiter, there's a problem with the soup."
"What's the problem?"
"Just taste the soup."
"What's wrong with the soup?"
"Just taste the soup!"
"Ok, where's the spoon?"
"Aha! Ahaaaa!"
368 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:18:35am |
re: #367 Ghost of Tom Joad
"Waiter, there's a problem with the soup."
"What's the problem?"
"Just taste the soup."
"What's wrong with the soup?"
"Just taste the soup!"
"Ok, where's the spoon?"
"Aha! Ahaaaa!"
The WOUND!
(/Python)
369 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:18:53am |
UC Irvine's student body takes anti-Israel investment stance
IRVINE - The representatives of UC Irvine's student body have urged the school to divest itself of investments in companies whose products they say support anti-Palestinian Israeli policies, it was announced today.
The Associated Students of UC Irvine voted 16-0 Tuesday night for a resolution urging the university to withdraw its investments from Caterpillar, General Electric, Hewlett Packard, Raytheon, "and other companies profiting from human rights violations in the occupied territories," a statement said.
The targeted companies have sustained Israel's occupation by providing materials used to build Israeli settlements on the West Bank and military checkpoints, the resolution said. GE, it said, manufactures engines for U.S.- made Apache helicopters, which the resolution said have been used in attacks that represent "war crimes" because they involved civilians.
370 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:18:54am |
re: #366 Dark_Falcon
Do I want to know what that means?
Just "the Blonde". "L"s slid over to "'I"s sometime in the development of Italian.
371 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:20:06am |
re: #367 Ghost of Tom Joad
"Waiter, there's a problem with the soup."
"What's the problem?"
"Just taste the soup."
"What's wrong with the soup?"
"Just taste the soup!"
"Ok, where's the spoon?"
"Aha! Ahaaaa!"
Man calls the manager over and says, "The waiter had his thumb in my soup". Manager tell the customer that the waiter has an arthritic thumb and the hot soup helps. The man says, "Well, tell him to stick his thumb in his ass". Manager says, "He does when he's in the back".
372 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:21:41am |
re: #366 Dark_Falcon
Do I want to know what that means?
The Blonde.
Also the title of an Italian film about a shy guy who hits a girl with a car and gives her amnesia. He helps her and falls in love with her but then she remembers that she is a drug dealers girl friend and leaves him.
(Yes that is really the entire plot)
373 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:21:55am |
Man asks waiter, "How do you prepare the chicken"?
Waiter says, "Meh, we don't, they pretty much know they're gonna die".
374 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:26:10am |
re: #311 watching you tiny alien kittens are
Wingnut talking about the woman in Arizona who ran over her husband for not voting...
quite possibly the most disgusting event in human history
Right. Has this person ever heard of the Holocaust? The Albigensian Crusade? The treatment of America's own native population? Because any of these beats the election of a centrist Democratic President as far as disgusting events go.
375 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:26:15am |
Sign in men's restroom at a Chinese restaurant: "Employees must wash chopsticks".
376 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:26:50am |
re: #374 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
Right. Has this person ever heard of the Holocaust? The Albigensian Crusade? The treatment of America's own native population? Because any of these beats the election of a centrist Democratic President as far as disgusting events go.
Nothing beats these guys' ability to whine at a democratic outcome they do not approve of...
377 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:26:52am |
re: #371 Honorary Consul General
I just spit tea on my computer.
That's BAAAAD!
378 | Lidane Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:27:35am |
Breaking News: BP to Pay $4 Billion Fine and Plead Guilty to 14 Criminal Charges in 2010 Gulf Oil Spillnyti.ms/RWhL04— The New York Times (@nytimes) November 15, 2012
379 | erik_t Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:28:26am |
re: #374 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
Right. Has this person ever heard of the Holocaust? The Albigensian Crusade? The treatment of America's own native population? Because any of these beats the election of a centrist Democratic President as far as disgusting events go.
And fuck, most of those are just the last two hundred years.
380 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:28:36am |
re: #371 Honorary Consul General
Man calls the manager over and says, "The waiter had his thumb in my soup". Manager tell the customer that the waiter has an arthritic thumb and the hot soup helps. The man says, "Well, tell him to stick his thumb in his ass". Manager says, "He does when he's in the back".
An epicure, dining at Crewe,
Found quite a large mouse in his stew.
Said the waiter, "Don't shout
And wave it about,
Or the rest will be wanting one too."
- "Waiter, what's this fly doing in my soup?"
- "Looks like the backstroke, sir."
381 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:28:53am |
re: #378 Lidane
How does one make BP serve jail time for criminal charges, do they select an employee and pay them to be their designated criminal representative?
/
382 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:29:05am |
re: #378 Lidane
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Wow, what a wrist slap. That one might leave a mark for a couple hours.
383 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:29:15am |
re: #378 Lidane
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Breaking News: BP to Pay $4 Billion Fine and Plead Guilty to 14 Criminal Charges in 2010 Gulf Oil Spill nyti.ms/RWhL04
So this corporate person will be doing time in a federal prison?
384 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:29:59am |
re: #318 Vicious Babushka
I read the whole article on Haaretz. Gershon Baskin is just self-promoting a "peace agreement" that he made up by himself. He is a private citizen who holds no position in the Israeli government and has no authority to conduct negotiations. So it is complete bullshit.
Ugh, I'm seeing that story popping up on Daily Beast, some lefty sites and even a few MSM outlets now.
385 | Lidane Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:30:09am |
re: #381 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears
How does one make BP serve jail time for criminal charges, do they select an employee and pay them to be their designated criminal representative?
/
I'd go and find out the answer, but I just hit the NYT paywall. =P
386 | erik_t Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:31:24am |
re: #378 Lidane
@nytimes Breaking News: BP to Pay $4 Billion Fine and Plead Guilty to 14 Criminal Charges in 2010 Gulf Oil Spill nyti.ms/RWhL04
Revenue US$ 386.46 billion (2011)
Operating income US$ 39.81 billion (2011)
Net income US$ 25.70 billion (2011)
Total assets US$ 290.92 billion (2011)
Total equity US$ 111.46 billion (2011)
Tack on a zero and we'll talk.
387 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:32:02am |
re: #378 Lidane
Watch this.
[Link: www.pbs.org...]
388 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:32:03am |
Gaza: Killed Hamas Leader Ahmed Jabari ‘Was Canvassing’ Truce Agreement with Israel
Hamas leader Ahmed Jabari had just been given the draft of a truce agreement when he was assassinated in Israeli strike, claims peace activist
Looks like complete fiction to me.
389 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:32:47am |
re: #379 erik_t
And fuck, most of those are just the last two hundred years.
Well, I was going to toss in a reference to events during the reign of Tiglath-Pileser III, but I figured I already had enough examples.
390 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:33:05am |
re: #381 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears
How does one make BP serve jail time for criminal charges, do they select an employee and pay them to be their designated criminal representative?
/
Naw, three employees work eight hour shifts at the prison each day, that's one job where everyone wants the night shift.
///
391 | Lidane Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:33:51am |
re: #382 Targetpractice
Wow, what a wrist slap. That one might leave a mark for a couple hours.
Especially since they're paying out the money in installments:
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]
I expect that we'll hear from the GOP telling us about this gross miscarriage of justice later today.
392 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:34:42am |
re: #388 Killgore Trout
Gaza: Killed Hamas Leader Ahmed Jabari ‘Was Canvassing’ Truce Agreement with Israel
Looks like complete fiction to me.
Here's another take on that 'truce'.
393 | Varek Raith Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:34:44am |
Corporations are now people.
I sentence BP to death.
394 | Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:35:13am |
re: #381 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears
Tony Hayward, that doucherocket CEO who took time to go sailing on his 52' megayacht and complained how hard everything was with the oil spill would be a fantastic start.
395 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:36:08am |
re: #391 Lidane
Especially since they're paying out the money in installments:
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]
I expect that we'll hear from the GOP telling us about this gross miscarriage of justice later today.
Installments? Why, because if we demand it all at once, their CEO will have to go without caviar for a month?
396 | Eventual Carrion Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:36:35am |
re: #391 Lidane
Especially since they're paying out the money in installments:
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]
I expect that we'll hear from the GOP telling us about this gross miscarriage of justice later today.
Probably, because I'm sure if a mistake of mine caused 11 people to die and polluted a huge amount of a waterway they would just fine me $5000.00 and the whole thing would be forgotten.
397 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:36:49am |
My brother got 14K from BP and his GF got 35K because of the spill. I even have a firm calling me.
398 | Lidane Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:37:50am |
*sigh*
I still can't believe this is a real thing. I keep waiting for the punchline:
Petraeus scandal: Broadwell and Kelley's access revoked
The US military has revoked access for two women at the heart of the scandal that led to Friday's resignation of Gen David Petraeus as CIA director.
Security clearance has been suspended for his ex-mistress, Paula Broadwell.
And Jill Kelley's pass at the Florida air force base where she organised social events has been frozen.
399 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:38:32am |
Gotta run. It's 'Lunch With Daddy Day' at school.
:)
400 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:39:05am |
re: #399 NJDhockeyfan
Gotta run. It's 'Lunch With Daddy Day' at school.
:)
I'll pray for pizza for you.
401 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:39:05am |
re: #392 NJDhockeyfan
Here's another take on that 'truce'.
Heh. The Israelis seen cool with the rocket fire and lack of retaliation was a ruse! Interesting angle.
402 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:39:26am |
BREAKING NEWS: Rocket alert sirens heard in Tel Aviv— Haaretz.com (@haaretzcom) November 15, 2012
403 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:39:43am |
Oh jeez, they are at it again...
Westboro Baptists Hate Formula One
"WBC will picket Formula 1 racing at The Circuit of The Americas in Austin, TX to remind this nation that God hates the vwicked people of this land of vain idolaters and that they shall be turned into Hell. These sporting events resemble the patriotic worship-the-flag pep rallies masquerading as sodlier's funerals in that this Bible-ignorant fools worship these race car drivers like they are little gods! Shame on these people for worshipping these athletes instead of following the plain commandments of their God. They ought to obey today before it is too late. WBC knows they will not, never the less, we will kindly warn them to flee the wrath to come. These are the last days of all, Doomed america. Wake up before you find yourselves cast into the deep pit of endless fire!"
404 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:40:06am |
re: #398 Lidane
*sigh*
I still can't believe this is a real thing. I keep waiting for the punchline:
I keep waiting for it all to end up on one of those lie-detector episodes of the Maury Show.
405 | Lidane Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:40:26am |
re: #403 watching you tiny alien kittens are
Oh jeez, they are at it again...
Yep. They're going to be unwelcome guests here in Austin this week.
Oh joy.
406 | Varek Raith Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:40:46am |
re: #404 Targetpractice
I keep waiting for it all to end up on one of those lie-detector episodes of the Maury Show.
No.
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407 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:40:59am |
re: #369 NJDhockeyfan
UC Irvine's student body takes anti-Israel investment stance
The Clue Meter in Irvine is still reading 'zero'.
408 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:41:29am |
re: #329 darthstar
Yep...which is why one should avoid war porn. You get all excited about a conflict(kill them brown fuckers!), then some asshole comes along and says something awful about your side, and rather than ignoring it, somehow the full quote gets posted to another site, so more people can be disgusted by a single idiot they neither know nor care about, and one that obviously isn't aware of Iran's nuclear capabilities (real or imagined).
We've been known to post the words of armchair bigots here, rather than ignoring them. And I don't think anyone here has made any reference to 'killing them brown fuckers'.
409 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:41:53am |
re: #405 Lidane
Yep. They're going to be unwelcome guests here in Austin this week.
Oh joy.
Tie them down and make them listen to bluegrass and folk music while telling them it's an intervention that includes deprogramming efforts.
/
410 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:42:30am |
re: #406 Varek Raith
No.
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Eh, talk shows aren't as much fun as they used to be, back in the days when you tuned in to see if one or more guests were gonna end up leaving with a black eye. Soon as they got the bouncers there to hold folks back, the shows just lost their fire.
411 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:43:13am |
re: #410 Targetpractice
Eh, talk shows aren't as much fun as they used to be, back in the days when you tuned in to see if one or more guests were gonna end up leaving with a black eye. Soon as they got the bouncers there to hold folks back, the shows just lost their fire.
Geraldo. Broken nose. Awesome.
412 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:43:16am |
re: #405 Lidane
Yep. They're going to be unwelcome guests here in Austin this week.
Oh joy.
GOD HATES RACECARS!!!??
413 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:45:29am |
re: #384 Killgore Trout
Ugh, I'm seeing that story popping up on Daily Beast, some lefty sites and even a few MSM outlets now.
It's going to be a known fact pretty shortly.
414 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:45:46am |
re: #392 NJDhockeyfan
Here's another take on that 'truce'.
Israel didn't say anything about a truce, they just let the terror master see want he wanted to see, then blew him away when he showed himself. It's called 'strategery', as the faux Bushism had it.
415 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:47:30am |
Rocket lands in Holon, just south of Tel Aviv bit.ly/TKBX3C— Haaretz.com (@haaretzcom) November 15, 2012
416 | makeitstop Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:47:38am |
Must have been some really good, umm, peanut butter.
Police: Conn. H.S. Student Found Unconscious After Eating Pot Peanut Butter Cracker
417 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:48:12am |
re: #414 Dark_Falcon
Israel didn't say anything about a truce, they just let the terror master see want he wanted to see, then blew him away when he showed himself. It's called 'strategery', as the faux Bushism had it.
Well, Sun Tzu did say all warfare is based on deception.
418 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:48:14am |
re: #410 Targetpractice
Eh, talk shows aren't as much fun as they used to be, back in the days when you tuned in to see if one or more guests were gonna end up leaving with a black eye. Soon as they got the bouncers there to hold folks back, the shows just lost their fire.
They had to do that. Liability insurance issues, you know.
419 | Varek Raith Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:48:23am |
420 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:48:26am |
OMG my daughter just called from Tel Aviv, rocket fell on the street she's on! I'm freaking out. #stoptherockets— Laura Ben-David (@LauraBenDavd) November 15, 2012
421 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:48:46am |
re: #416 makeitstop
Must have been some really good, umm, peanut butter.
Police: Conn. H.S. Student Found Unconscious After Eating Pot Peanut Butter Cracker
Food allergy?
/
422 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:49:05am |
re: #415 Vicious Babushka
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Looks like Hamas has improved their capabilities recently.
423 | Varek Raith Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:50:03am |
425 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:51:17am |
re: #422 Killgore Trout
Looks like Hamas has improved their capabilities recently.
It's the same rockets, Killgore. They're just firing more of them.
426 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:51:20am |
re: #419 Varek Raith
"Question the timing"?! When the fuck would reporting this much of a jump in unemployment filings be seen as a good thing?
427 | dragonath Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:53:39am |
re: #426 Targetpractice
I thought they were going to attribute it to all the "Obama layoffs" they've been doing.
428 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:54:54am |
re: #426 Targetpractice
"Question the timing"?! When the fuck would reporting this much of a jump in unemployment filings be seen as a good thing?
Forget it. They're Beck Trolling.
429 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:55:14am |
re: #426 Targetpractice
"Question the timing"?! When the fuck would reporting this much of a jump in unemployment filings be seen as a good thing?
He is suggesting that these were the types of numbers that we have had all along and that they claim were falsified downward before the election.
430 | Lidane Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:55:14am |
431 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:55:41am |
re: #425 Dark_Falcon
It's the same rockets, Killgore. They're just firing more of them.
[Link: muqata.blogspot.com...]
ah, it seems tel aviv has been on the outer edge of their capabilities for a while now.
432 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:55:53am |
re: #422 Killgore Trout
Looks like Hamas has improved their capabilities recently.
It's the Fajrs. They've had them a while--using them now makes sense, since Israel's trying to destroy their stash. Unfortunately, their range is better than the stuff that's mostly been used recently.
433 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:56:14am |
re: #427 dragonath
I thought they were going to attribute it to all the "Obama layoffs" they've been doing.
Read the comments to the article, they may not be but "the base" certainly is.
434 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:57:52am |
Hippies actually hit upon possibly useful tactic:
Members of Occupy Wall Street — various branches of which have recently been saving families from foreclosure and aiding victims of Hurricane Sandy — have launched a new initiative. Coined the “Rolling Jubilee,” Occupiers are raising money to buy distressed debt from financial firms.
But while purchasers of debt usually hound debtors in order to make a return on their investment, Occupy plans to simply abolish the debt for the lucky individuals whose accounts they grab. As explained on the Rolling Jubilee website:
We buy debt for pennies on the dollar, but instead of collecting it, we abolish it. We cannot buy specific individuals’ debt – instead, we help liberate debtors at random through a campaign of mutual support, good will, and collective refusal.
Organizer David Rees explained further:
OWS is going to start buying distressed debt (medical bills, student loans, etc.) in order to forgive it. As a test run, we spent $500, which bought $14,000 of distressed debt. We then ERASED THAT DEBT. (If you’re a debt broker, once you own someone’s debt you can do whatever you want with it — traditionally, you hound debtors to their grave trying to collect. We’re playing a different game. A MORE AWESOME GAME.)
So if there is footage of Killgore at a debt auction with a can of pepper spray, now you know why. //
435 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 8:58:02am |
re: #429 watching you tiny alien kittens are
He is suggesting that these were the types of numbers that we have had all along and that they claim were falsified downward before the election.
And, of course, his evidence consists of "Fuck you, that's my evidence!"
436 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:01:28am |
re: #434 Dark_Falcon
Hippies actually hit upon possibly useful tactic:
So if there is footage of Killgore at a debt auction with a can of pepper spray, now you know why. //
It's an interesting idea but I don't think they thought this one through. Forgiven debt is counted as income. The OWS guys have no idea who's debt they're buying and the "beneficiaries" have no idea either. People in financial trouble are going to get a big tax bill or lose their welfare benefits. It's probably not a very good idea.
437 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:03:06am |
re: #432 SanFranciscoZionist
It's the Fajrs. They've had them a while--using them now makes sense, since Israel's trying to destroy their stash. Unfortunately, their range is better than the stuff that's mostly been used recently.
Fajr-5. It's a big nasty rocket, only fired one at a time. But it's got a maximum range of 75 klicks and a 90 kilo HE payload.
438 | dragonath Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:03:26am |
re: #408 SanFranciscoZionist
We've been known to post the words of armchair bigots here, rather than ignoring them. And I don't think anyone here has made any reference to 'killing them brown fuckers'.
No, but when many of the people here who are posting these comments are former "anti-Jihad" posters, it seems as if the conflict is being commented on through an existential religious perspective.
439 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:04:08am |
I didn't know today is the Great American Smoke Out. Ah, well, maybe next year.
440 | Obdicut Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:05:02am |
re: #436 Killgore Trout
It's an interesting idea but I don't think they thought this one through. Forgiven debt is counted as income. The OWS guys have no idea who's debt they're buying and the "beneficiaries" have no idea either. People in financial trouble are going to get a big tax bill or lose their welfare benefits. It's probably not a very good idea.
It's still going to be a net benefit to them. The fact that the financial and taxation system is so screwed up as to make this sort of forgiveness potentially problematic for welfare and stuff is unfortunate, but not their fault.
You see, that something has a downside doesn't negate the upside.
441 | makeitstop Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:05:04am |
re: #436 Killgore Trout
It's an interesting idea but I don't think they thought this one through. Forgiven debt is counted as income. The OWS guys have no idea who's debt they're buying and the "beneficiaries" have no idea either. People in financial trouble are going to get a big tax bill or lose their welfare benefits. It's probably not a very good idea.
The tax bill would be nowhere near the amount of the debt, though.
OWS has hit upon a good idea here. Why not just put aside your hatred of them for a minute or two and admit it?
442 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:05:13am |
re: #436 Killgore Trout
It's an interesting idea but I don't think they thought this one through. Forgiven debt is counted as income. The OWS guys have no idea who's debt they're buying and the "beneficiaries" have no idea either. People in financial trouble are going to get a big tax bill or lose their welfare benefits. It's probably not a very good idea.
That I had not thought of, nor had they I'm sure. But you're right that the IRS has thought of it, and that will be brought to the attention of debtors whose debt was forgiven by OWS.
Still, what they're doing is at least legal and non-disruptive.
443 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:07:20am |
re: #438 dragonath
No, but when many of the people here who are posting these comments are former "anti-Jihad" posters, it seems as if the conflict is being commented on through an existential religious perspective.
I was never a Gellerite, nor was Killgore.
444 | Decatur Deb Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:07:40am |
re: #431 Killgore Trout
[Link: muqata.blogspot.com...]
ah, it seems tel aviv has been on the outer edge of their capabilities for a while now.
Falling short of Tel Aviv puts them on Jaffa,and the best bakery in the country (except maybe Eris).
[Link: www.virtualtourist.com...]
445 | makeitstop Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:08:00am |
re: #442 Dark_Falcon
That I had not thought of, nor had they I'm sure.
Come on, Dark. You don't think Occupy has people familiar with finance in their ranks? I can assure you, they do. I actually know a few of them.
This idea that OWS is full of nothing but brainless hippies is just wrong. There are some very, very smart people in their ranks, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
446 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:09:49am |
re: #440 Obdicut
It's still going to be a net benefit to them. The fact that the financial and taxation system is so screwed up as to make this sort of forgiveness potentially taxable is unfortunate, but not their fault.
You see, that something has a downside doesn't negate the upside.
And at the very least, OWS is clearing off small amounts of toxic or junk debt. Which is good, because that debt going away clears up the financial circumstances of the nation as a whole.
447 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:10:32am |
re: #445 makeitstop
Come on, Dark. You don't think Occupy has people familiar with finance in their ranks? I can assure you, they do. I actually know a few of them.
This idea that OWS is full of nothing but brainless hippies is just wrong. There are some very, very smart people in their ranks, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
Hippies, yes. Brainless, no.
448 | Obdicut Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:11:14am |
re: #441 makeitstop
The tax bill would be nowhere near the amount of the debt, though.
OWS has hit upon a good idea here. Why not just put aside your hatred of them for a minute or two and admit it?
He's using the same logic that people use to say that they don't want to make more money because they'll be taxed more highly. Sure. It's still a net benefit. There are corner cases where it might specifically be inconvienient in the short-term.
And oh hey, it looks like Killgore is even more wrong:
The exclusion for "qualified principal residence indebtedness," provides canceled debt tax relief for many American home owners involved in the mortgage foreclosure crisis currently affecting much of the country. The exclusion allows taxpayers to exclude up to $2,000,000 ($1,000,000 if married filing separately) of "qualified principal residence indebtedness".
If it's mortgage debt, then it doesn't count as income.
Nor does it if it's student loans.
449 | dragonath Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:11:54am |
re: #443 Dark_Falcon
I was never a Gellerite, nor was Killgore.
I take more issue with NJDHockeyfan's "putting on the foil against Jihad" in his description, then posting videos of people (however contemptible) getting blown to smithereens.
450 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:12:13am |
re: #443 Dark_Falcon
I was never a Gellerite, nor was Killgore.
Dragonite is responding to SFZ who was responding to me, and I was responding to NJDHF, who is a Gellerite.
451 | Varek Raith Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:13:31am |
You know you play Eve too much when you see the word 'Gellerite' and your mind says 'Gallente'
452 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:13:44am |
re: #450 darthstar
Dragonite is responding to SFZ who was responding to me, and I was responding to NJDHF, who is a Gellerite.
You failed to tell us what that has to do with Benghazi.
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453 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:13:49am |
re: #449 dragonath
I take more issue with NJDHockeyfan's "putting on the foil against Jihad" in his description, then posting videos of people (however contemptible) getting blown to smithereens.
He loves war porn more than the other couch warriors like DF and KT...and DF, of the three, you're the least wingnutty...and that's saying something.
454 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:13:57am |
re: #448 Obdicut
He's using the same logic that people use to say that they don't want to make more money because they'll be taxed more highly. Sure. It's still a net benefit. There are corner cases where it might specifically be inconvienient in the short-term.
And oh hey, it looks like Killgore is even more wrong:
If it's mortgage debt, then it doesn't count as income.
Nor does it if it's student loans.
That only counts if you go through the foreclosure process in the courts. Debt forgiven outright, even if it's mortgage debt, still counts as income.
455 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:14:11am |
re: #452 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears
You failed to tell us what that has to do with Benghazi.
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Benghazi is the 47%.
456 | Eventual Carrion Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:14:18am |
re: #445 makeitstop
Come on, Dark. You don't think Occupy has people familiar with finance in their ranks? I can assure you, they do. I actually know a few of them.
This idea that OWS is full of nothing but brainless hippies is just wrong. There are some very, very smart people in their ranks, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
Which is fascinating. The company cannot lower your debt burden without dumping you with a large tax bill. But A.N. Random Individual can indeed lower your debt burden without that tax being due. You or I, OWS, can purchase the debt and then write it off and that’s a gift: no tax is payable upon that debt reduction.
Do note this very important point: the companies, the corporations, cannot do this. We as individuals can.
458 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:15:36am |
re: #457 Dark_Falcon
Fling an insult, get a downding.
I said you were the LEAST wingnutty...sheesh. You couch warriors have such thin skin.
459 | erik_t Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:16:08am |
How is congressional oversight formed? How to play senator?
When GOP Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham stepped before the cameras Wednesday and renewed their calls for a Watergate-like committee to probe the Sept. 11 terrorist attack in Libya, their longtime partner — Sen. Joe Lieberman – was noticeably missing.
...
Both Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin, “who was there at [Benghazi] briefing, and Sen. McCain, who was not, are members of our committee, and I know they would play very important roles,” Collins told POLITICO after the briefing.“I do not see the benefit of creating a brand new committee when we already have the Senate’s chief oversight committee, plus the Intelligence Committee, examining this very important matter.”
McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said Thursday the senator missed the meeting because of a “scheduling error.”
Do your goddamned job, you worthless bitter old man.
460 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:17:14am |
[Link: taxes.about.com...]
Canceled Debt That is Taxable
Anytime a lender cancels or forgives debt, that is usually a taxable event. "Generally, if a debt you owe is canceled or forgiven, other than as a gift or bequest, you must include the canceled amount in your income." (Source: Publication 525)Debt forgiveness is reported by the lender using Form 1099-C, Cancellation of Debt. Individuals report the forgiven debt on their Form 1040, Line 21 as other income.
The tax laws provide several exceptions to the tax treatment of forgiven debts. Tax-free treatment of mortgage debt is the most generous and easiest to calculate.
Mortgage Restructuring and Foreclosures
Individuals who lost their homes through foreclosure will not have to pay income tax on the amount of mortgage debt that was forgiven or canceled. Tax-free treatment is also available to people who restructured their mortgages loans for a lower balance.
461 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:19:34am |
re: #458 darthstar
I said you were the LEAST wingnutty...sheesh. You couch warriors have such thin skin.
I take exception to being called a "couch warrior".
462 | Flounder Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:19:40am |
From Fajr-5 wiki entry:
The latest production of the Fajr-5 is installed on a new Mercedes-Benz 6 x 6 forward control chassis[4] and the platform is now integrated into a complete weapon system rather than an individual launcher. To provide a more stable firing platform four hydraulically operated stabilizers are lowered to the ground before firing.
The new chassis has improved cross-country mobility and the forward control fully enclosed cab provides space for the driver and two passengers. Another fully enclosed cabin to the immediate rear of the cab houses the remainder of the crew. The new Mercedes-Benz chassis is similar to that manufactured in China, which is used as the basis for...
463 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:20:49am |
re: #459 erik_t
How is congressional oversight formed? How to play senator?
Do your goddamned job, you worthless bitter old man.
Selecting Palin for VP candidate was a "personnel file error". Didn't you get the memo?
:p
464 | makeitstop Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:20:51am |
re: #460 Killgore Trout
Debt forgiveness is reported by the lender using Form 1099-C, Cancellation of Debt. Individuals report the forgiven debt on their Form 1040, Line 21 as other income.
'By the lender.'
Eventual Carrion addressed this in #456.
465 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:20:52am |
re: #459 erik_t
How is congressional oversight formed? How to play senator?
Do your goddamned job, you worthless bitter old man.
Hey, McCain, the presidential election's come and gone. And the midterms aren't for another two years. You can dial back the bullshit.
466 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:21:27am |
re: #462 Flounder
From Fajr-5 wiki entry:
The latest production of the Fajr-5 is installed on a new Mercedes-Benz 6 x 6 forward control chassis[4] and the platform is now integrated into a complete weapon system rather than an individual launcher. To provide a more stable firing platform four hydraulically operated stabilizers are lowered to the ground before firing.The new chassis has improved cross-country mobility and the forward control fully enclosed cab provides space for the driver and two passengers. Another fully enclosed cabin to the immediate rear of the cab houses the remainder of the crew. The new Mercedes-Benz chassis is similar to that manufactured in China, which is used as the basis for...
Hamas would use a concealed launcher, but they have truck cabs suitable for service as Fajr-5 TEL*s already in Gaza.
TEL: Transporter, Erector, Launcher
467 | Flounder Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:21:38am |
I'm sorry Dark, I didn't realize Fajr-5 was a mobile platform package deal my bad! (eating lunch nomnom nom)
468 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:21:51am |
re: #438 dragonath
No, but when many of the people here who are posting these comments are former "anti-Jihad" posters, it seems as if the conflict is being commented on through an existential religious perspective.
Except that the comment quoted from the other site actually does comment on the conflict through an existential religious and ethnic perspective, as do a lot of anti-Israel voices, and I don't like seeing that dismissed. It's not unimportant to the situation, and I'm frankly not happy being told that anti-Semitism doesn't count because 'war porn' and vague implications of racism.
469 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:22:02am |
John McCain is a bigger camera whore than his former running mate.
While he was in high dudgeon before the cameras together with Sen. Lindsey Graham and Sen. Kelly Ayotte making threats to filibuster the rumored nomination of Rice to replace Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and calling for a select investigative committee to look into the matter, the classified, closed-door briefing was being held by a Senate committee on which he sits.
470 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:22:24am |
Our company HQ Thanksgiving lunch feed has been delayed a half hour. :(
471 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:23:17am |
re: #461 Dark_Falcon
I take exception to being called a "couch warrior".
Oh, I'm sorry...when did you serve in the military?
472 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:23:41am |
Reuters picks up the phoney truce story: Phony truce may have lured Hamas man into open
Looks almost word for word copy of the Ma'an (palestinian media) article linked earlier.
473 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:23:47am |
In a thread at "Where Liberty Dwells" the OP asks...
WLD as fringe site
Or extremist. Or even worse to many: A "Hate site" *quiver/shudder/panic* Is that what we're doing here? I'd say the better question is whether it is possible in today's media climate to be conservative, legitimately conservative and not some moderate Democrat-serving toadies, and NOT be labeled one or all of the above?
OK that seems like a reasonable question, or at least it does until you read the replies he got, one of which goes like this...
It is no secret that VTY is literally and pathologically hated by the loathsome spawns of hell on the left. It is also no secret that I wear their hatred of me as a badge of honor, and that I go out of my way to be hated even more by them, if that is possible.
I have no more respect for those repugnant, subhuman scumbags than for viruses. I consider liberalism to be a cancer, and liberals are the carcinogens. Because of that, I do not accept that it is possible to compromise in any way with them. Cancer must be excised from the human body, fully and rapidly. Liberalism must be cut out of the body politic by any means necessary, including if necessary the total extermination of liberals.
I will not personally kill a liberal. The creature is not worth all that paperwork. However, when a liberal dies, it is no more a cause for mourning than is the death of a mosquito or a cöckroach. Their very existence is a pollutant on Earth, and every time that pollution is reduced even slightly, it is a cause for celebration.
Liberals have for several decades made unarguable that they are the avowed, intractable enemies of the American state. They live in the freedom that millions have died to protect while exploiting that freedom to undermine their country. They are traitors of the most despicable kind, and they merit the fate that in a more just and rational time, America exacted upon traitors.
(Photo here of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg in their caskets)
When the last liberal is dead, America will be a far, far better place.
Uhh, yeah so about whether you should be considered a hate site? I think you should probably already know the answer to that one Idiots...
474 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:25:56am |
re: #472 Killgore Trout
Reuters picks up the phoney truce story: Phony truce may have lured Hamas man into open
Looks almost word for word copy of the Ma'an (palestinian media) article linked earlier.
If true, however, it's less than desirable optics.
475 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:27:02am |
If you didn't serve, you're a couch warrior.
Full disclosure: I never served in the armed forces. I'm a couch conscientious objector.
476 | Varek Raith Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:27:32am |
I can press the Button of Doom from my couch...
477 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:28:44am |
re: #476 Varek Raith
I can press the Button of Doom from my couch...
You're a couch intergallactic startrooper.
478 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:28:46am |
re: #476 Varek Raith
I can press the Button of Doom from my couch...
Hedonismbot can handle that task as well, but probably wouldn't bother.
479 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:30:14am |
Hey now, I may be a couch warrior, but I'm a well-accomplished one. I've sent numerous soldiers to their deaths. Granted, it was only in video games, but I still mourn the losses!
//
480 | Varek Raith Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:31:18am |
re: #479 Targetpractice
Hey now, I may be a couch warrior, but I'm a well-accomplished one. I've sent numerous soldiers to their deaths. Granted, it was only in video games, but I still mourn the losses!
//
Same.
Except the mourning part.
481 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:33:58am |
re: #475 darthstar
If you didn't serve, you're a couch warrior.
Full disclosure: I never served in the armed forces. I'm a couch conscientious objector.
I disagree. To read about and analyze foreign military operations without having been in the armed forces does not make one a 'couch warrior'.
482 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:36:30am |
@mccainblogette Your daddy needs a hug.He's been raging pretty hard lately and it's starting to affect his job--missing meetings. Not good— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) November 15, 2012
Good news about evolving opinions in the GOP though...they're almost up to 1974.
483 | Varek Raith Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:37:57am |
re: #482 darthstar
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Good news about evolving opinions in the GOP though...they're almost up to 1974.
Between the ages of 18-29...
So...like 8 people?
484 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:39:04am |
re: #483 Varek Raith
Between the ages of 18-29...
So...like 8 people?
But only four of them believe in marriage equality...
/
485 | Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:39:48am |
Posted less than a minute apart:
Maine's GOP Chairman Accuses Black Voters of Election Crimes shar.es/Gw8w8 via @gatewaypundit— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) November 15, 2012
Like Clockwork... Libs Play Race Card on Susan Rice Critics (Video) shar.es/Gw8iv via @gatewaypundit— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) November 15, 2012
[*headdesk*]
486 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:39:50am |
re: #481 Dark_Falcon
I disagree. To read about and analyze foreign military operations without having been in the armed forces does not make one a 'couch warrior'.
You demonstrate detailed knowledge about weapons ranging from an M-16 to the types of rockets used by militants in Gaza to Russian aircraft. You live for this shit. You're not just a couch warrior...you could be the model for couch warrior recruiting posters.
487 | Inconsequential Consequence Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:39:58am |
re: #454 Killgore Trout
That only counts if you go through the foreclosure process in the courts. Debt forgiven outright, even if it's mortgage debt, still counts as income.
So they'll owe taxes on the debt instead of the debt.
A $14,000 debt
at 25% tax rate
= $3500 debt
488 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:40:11am |
re: #484 watching you tiny alien kittens are
But only four of them believe in marriage equality...
/
Divorce lawyers in the making...
/
489 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:40:22am |
re: #474 darthstar
If true, however, it's less than desirable optics.
It's not really true. What the article basically says is that Hamas thought the Israelis would allow them to launch over 100 rockets in a week without responding. That's not much of a truce, is it? Also the Hamas leader killed sealed his fate a long time ago for his role in taking Shalit hostage. He lived only as long as Israel allowed him to.
490 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:41:11am |
re: #485 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society
Posted less than a minute apart:
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[*headdesk*]
"Dim" Jim rides again.
491 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:42:53am |
re: #489 Killgore Trout
It's not really true. What the article basically says is that Hamas thought the Israelis would allow them to launch over 100 rockets in a week without responding. That's not much of a truce, is it? Also the Hamas leader killed sealed his fate a long time ago for his role in taking Shalit hostage. He lived only as long as Israel allowed him to.
Well, I'm glad I don't have to negotiate with Israel. You make them out to be pretty insincere in the peace process. That's not very fair to the Israeli people, who probably would prefer not to be used as political fodder by their government.
492 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:43:08am |
re: #483 Varek Raith
I know 4 of them. All have gone to Libertarianism.
One of them, who used to be a sweet girl, has called me paranoid about me being worried about Republicans wanting to Persecute Muslims. Also called my politics outdated.
While the depression is under control, I can't deny it makes me sadder and lonelier.
493 | Varek Raith Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:43:52am |
re: #485 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society
Posted less than a minute apart:
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[*headdesk*]
Lol at his 'methodology'.
In some parts of rural Maine, there were dozens, dozens of black people who came in and voted on Election Day. Everybody has a right to vote, but nobody in town knows anyone who’s black. How did that happen? I don’t know. We’re going to find out….
I’m not politically correct and maybe I shouldn’t have said these voters were black, but anyone who suggests I have a bias toward any race or group, frankly, that’s sleazy.
Nobody I know voted for Romney so...
XD
494 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:44:10am |
re: #486 darthstar
You demonstrate detailed knowledge about weapons ranging from an M-16 to the types of rockets used by militants in Gaza to Russian aircraft. You live for this shit. You're not just a couch warrior...you could be the model for couch warrior recruiting posters.
Detailed knowledge, yes. But I don't claim I could handle them in combat and I show deference to those that do. "Couch Warrior" in my mind is more like Iron Fist of the Stalker Blog.
495 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:46:04am |
re: #491 darthstar
Well, I'm glad I don't have to negotiate with Israel. You make them out to be pretty insincere in the peace process. That's not very fair to the Israeli people, who probably would prefer not to be used as political fodder by their government.
Israel isn't trying to negotiate peace with Hamas. They had been trying to get Hamas to halt the rocket fire, and Hamas refused to do so. Diplomacy have been given a chance and having failed, more direct measures are now being employed.
496 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:46:14am |
re: #473 watching you tiny alien kittens are
OK that seems like a reasonable question, or at least it does until you read the replies he got, one of which goes like this...
That probably sounded a lot more sinister in the original German.
497 | BongCrodny Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:46:36am |
re: #383 Decatur Deb
Breaking News: BP to Pay $4 Billion Fine and Plead Guilty to 14 Criminal Charges in 2010 Gulf Oil Spill nyti.ms/RWhL04
So this corporate person will be doing time in a federal prison?
Either that, or they're going to need a really big ankle monitor.
498 | RadicalModerate Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:46:46am |
re: #482 darthstar
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Good news about evolving opinions in the GOP though...they're almost up to 1974.
Rapidly moving from 1974 toward 1953.
499 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:48:26am |
re: #485 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society
Maine Republican Party Chairman Charlie Webster is once again alleging possible voting irregularities, this time claiming that groups of unknown black people showed up in some rural towns to vote on Election Day.
Webster made the claim in a wide-ranging, post-election interview this week with Don Carrigan of WCSH-TV.
“In some parts of rural Maine, there were dozens, dozens of black people who came in and voted on Election Day,” he said. “Everybody has a right to vote, but nobody in (these) towns knows anyone who’s black. How did that happen? I don’t know. We’re going to find out.”
When Carrigan pressed Webster on where it happened, Webster provided no specifics or proof of his claims, but said the party would investigate further.
OK then Mr. Webster, how did these people vote if they were not registered? Did they fill out provisional ballots instead? Why were those provisional ballots counted if they did not come from valid registered residents?
No answers to anything? Nope I thought not you lying sack of shit...
500 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:48:57am |
re: #495 Dark_Falcon
Diplomacy have been given a chance and having failed, more direct measures are now being employed.
That's couch warrior talk.
And your opinion of this tack is? Direct measures have been employed for the last few decades with no progress...ever since diplomacy 'failed'...
501 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:49:24am |
re: #491 darthstar
Well, I'm glad I don't have to negotiate with Israel. You make them out to be pretty insincere in the peace process. That's not very fair to the Israeli people, who probably would prefer not to be used as political fodder by their government.
Where is the evidence that there was any "peace plan" being negotiated?
502 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:49:56am |
re: #383 Decatur Deb
Breaking News: BP to Pay $4 Billion Fine and Plead Guilty to 14 Criminal Charges in 2010 Gulf Oil Spill nyti.ms/RWhL04
Elections have consequences. Romney lost, so they took the plea deal.
503 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:50:03am |
re: #491 darthstar
Well, I'm glad I don't have to negotiate with Israel. You make them out to be pretty insincere in the peace process. That's not very fair to the Israeli people, who probably would prefer not to be used as political fodder by their government.
I think the Israeli people would prefer not to be under rocket attack.
504 | BongCrodny Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:50:52am |
505 | Obdicut Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:50:52am |
re: #454 Killgore Trout
That only counts if you go through the foreclosure process in the courts. Debt forgiven outright, even if it's mortgage debt, still counts as income.
You don't seem to understand a lot of this is debt is post-foreclosure debt. When your house gets foreclosed on, it doesn't wipe out your debt in 41 states-- they can still sue for more. This is very common in the current market, where mortgages were taken at the height, but the houses were foreclosed and sold during the downmarket.
It's really adorable watching you try to make a negative of this, but what I said first still holds; That there are possible downsides doesn't negate the upside. It's pretty simple for an ordinary person to calculate that having their debt cut to a fraction of what it was before is good.
506 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:51:56am |
re: #500 darthstar
That's couch warrior talk.
And your opinion of this tack is? Direct measures have been employed for the last few decades with no progress...ever since diplomacy 'failed'...
Land for peace also failed after Israel withdrew from Gaza. There is no solution the Israelis can impose. The only choice is to deplete their capabilities and contain terrorist activity as best they can. Any peace would involve the Palestinians choosing to give up terrorism and dreams of destroying Israel. That's not going to happen any time soon.
507 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:52:11am |
re: #500 darthstar
That's couch warrior talk.
And your opinion of this tack is? Direct measures have been employed for the last few decades with no progress...ever since diplomacy 'failed'...
No real progress is possible as long as the Palestinians reject Israel's right to exist. Direct measures contain the threat and keep it within survivable limits. But there's nothing more any viable approach can do, due to Palestinian intransigence.
508 | makeitstop Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:52:18am |
re: #487 b_Snark
So they'll owe taxes on the debt instead of the debt.
A $14,000 debt
at 25% tax rate
= $3500 debt
But, but, but....rapey-stabby!
/
509 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:53:28am |
re: #492 ProGunLiberal
I know 4 of them. All have gone to Libertarianism.
One of them, who used to be a sweet girl, has called me paranoid about me being worried about Republicans wanting to Persecute Muslims. Also called my politics outdated.
While the depression is under control, I can't deny it makes me sadder and lonelier.
Sanity can be lonely at times. Hand in there, PLL.
510 | gwangung Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:55:03am |
“In some parts of rural Maine, there were dozens, dozens of black people who came in and voted on Election Day,” he said. “Everybody has a right to vote, but nobody in (these) towns knows anyone who’s black. How did that happen? I don’t know. We’re going to find out.”
I suspect having good taste in friends is the culprit.
511 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:56:28am |
re: #501 Vicious Babushka
Where is the evidence that there was any "peace plan" being negotiated?
Good point. The current approach is working as planned...no need to change. Netanyahu can use the recent attacks for all sorts of retaliatory measures in the name of defense.
512 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Thu, Nov 15, 2012 9:58:16am |
re: #499 watching you tiny alien kittens are
OK then Mr. Webster, how did these people vote if they were not registered? Did they fill out provisional ballots instead? Why were those provisional ballots counted if they did not come from valid registered residents?
No answers to anything? Nope I thought not you lying sack of shit...
Maine has same-day registration. I don't know what the mechanisms are, but the online Maine Voter's Guide doesn't say anything about provisional ballots.
513 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:00:39am |
re: #509 Dark_Falcon
Not only that, her politics have taken a smug, elitist tone nowadays.
Irony is, she is in grad school for teaching US History. She should understand that we have done the actions she wants us to do now before. It was called the Gilded Age. That period from the 1870s to WWI, and the brief return that finally ended in 1929.
514 | allegro Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:01:11am |
re: #502 darthstar
Elections have consequences. Romney lost, so they took the plea deal.
That could explain the BP ads I've been seeing lately telling us here on the Gulf Coast how wonderful everything is now with all the money the company has spent so generously to make it all better, even better than before!
Of course, there's no mention of the horribly mutated sea life and those people who lost their livelihoods forever.
515 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:01:22am |
re: #497 BongCrodny
Either that, or they're going to need a really big ankle monitor.
We'll hang Rhode Island on BP in order to keep track of where they are.
/
516 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:02:22am |
re: #513 ProGunLiberal
Granted, for me Politics in the realm of welfare, taking care of the poor, and economic regulations are so infused with my faith that arguments on those tend to take on a character of fire and brimstone.
517 | Varek Raith Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:02:47am |
re: #514 allegro
That could explain the BP ads I've been seeing lately telling us here on the Gulf Coast how wonderful everything is now with all the money the company has spent so generously to make it all better, even better than before!
Of course, there's no mention of the horribly mutated sea life and those people who lost their livelihoods forever.
Or that the oil industry still has no fucking clue how to clean up from a deep water disaster.
Or that their oil clean up tech and tactics is from the 70s.
518 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:02:52am |
re: #511 darthstar
Good point. The current approach is working as planned...no need to change. Netanyahu can use the recent attacks for all sorts of retaliatory measures in the name of defense.
What approach would you favor? Israel is under attack, and Gaza is under Hamas' control. If someone's got a bright idea, I'd love to hear it.
519 | RadicalModerate Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:03:26am |
re: #473 watching you tiny alien kittens are
This is a thread created yesterday at that site.
They have a problem with white nationalist Christian Identity organizations being designated as "hate groups" by the SPLC. They go as far as to claim that putting groups like the New Black Panthers is just window dressing - even though the SPLC actively tracks them as much as they do groups like Aryan Nations.
[Link: libertydwells.com...]
520 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:05:22am |
re: #511 darthstar
Good point. The current approach is working as planned...no need to change. Netanyahu can use the recent attacks for all sorts of retaliatory measures in the name of defense.
Well gee, please tell me what is the approach darthstar recommends for dealing with the ongoing rocket attacks.
521 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:05:41am |
re: #511 darthstar
Good point. The current approach is working as planned...no need to change. Netanyahu can use the recent attacks for all sorts of retaliatory measures in the name of defense.
Oh, brother! Israel has tried and tried to gain peace; Even Netanyahu has tried more than once. But for anything viable to occur Israel needs the Palestinians to show good faith, which has never happened. Until they show that good faith, it's the Palestians own fault thsat the Israelis won't talk to them.
522 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:09:15am |
I gave uip on any hope of peace years ago, the best we can hope for is that they keep the killing down to a minimum...
523 | Inconsequential Consequence Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:13:00am |
re: #518 SanFranciscoZionist
What approach would you favor? Israel is under attack, and Gaza is under Hamas' control. If someone's got a bright idea, I'd love to hear it.
Nail their shoes to the ground and tie the laces in a knot. Don't cut the laces until they work out a solution.
524 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:13:43am |
525 | dragonfire1981 Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:14:08am |
Just for fun, I give you: The Tale of Republican Santa Claus
526 | dragonfire1981 Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:17:16am |
ATTENTION BUSINESS OWNERS
Don't like having to pay for Obamacare? I have the perfect solution for you: Single Payer. That way the government and people pay for healthcare and you don't have worry about it. What a novel idea huh?
527 | ReamWorks SKG Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:17:44am |
Greetings People! I'm back from Portugal! What did I miss?
I had gone to Porto to see/hear Maestro Bradley Lubman conduct the Oporto "Remix Ensemble" in a Boulez / Bruno Montovani program.
The program was Bruno Mantovani's La Sette Chiese and three pieces by Pierre Boulez: Memoriale, Eclat, and cummings ist der Dichter (for Orchestra and Chorus).
The Casa da Música is very interesting, designed by Rem Koolhaas. Here's a photo I took of Maestro Lubman in front of it:
Image: 8187845611_d3e0753ca6_b.jpg
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
528 | King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:19:05am |
CHICAGO (FOX 32 News) -Sources tell FOX 32 News that Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. is willing to give up his 2nd Congressional District seat if he's given disability when he steps down.
[Link: www.myfoxchicago.com...]
Enjoy your cell.
529 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:20:09am |
Anonymous warns Israel against continued bombing of Gaza
As Israel’s campaign in Gaza showed no signs of abating, hacktivist group Anonymous threatened to take action against Israeli government for shutting down internet and telecommunication in the narrow strip, according to a press release issued by Anonymous Operation Israel.
The release stated, “For far too long, Anonymous has stood by with the rest of the world and watched in despair the barbaric, brutal and despicable treatment of the Palestinian people in the so called “Occupied Territories” by the Israel Defence Force.”
530 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:22:12am |
Ex-Chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt has made it into the news once again for attacking Sen. Al Franken’s proposed Student Non-Discrimination Act...
Klingenschmitt Warns Gays are 'Stealing' Children and 'Warping their Minds'
"The only way they have children is to recruit or in this case adopt the children of heterosexual couples which amounts to child abuse and child recruiting. That’s why they’re trying to get into our kindergarten books and trying to take over our public schools and homosexualize our public education so that they can recruit children into homosexuality and maintain their pool of available sex partners for their own progeny, which is our children that they are stealing and warping their minds."
Holy shit the man has become certifiably insane now...
531 | ReamWorks SKG Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:22:24am |
re: #529 Killgore Trout
Amazing! If free speech/free internet activists don't like what you say, they'll shut you up.
532 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:23:31am |
re: #520 Vicious Babushka
Well gee, please tell me what is the approach darthstar recommends for dealing with the ongoing rocket attacks.
I don't have a fucking clue. Maybe a blue-helmet intervention? Though the last thing the Palestinians want is more occupiers and Israel insists it's perfectly capable of defending itself. This has been going on for generations. The people dying in this conflict were born into it.
Yes, diplomacy is slow and there will be flare ups (like the one we're seeing this week), but if Israel could have bombed their way to peace with the Palestinians they would have done so thirty years ago.
I've often said, and will say it again, this won't be resolved until the current leadership dies off (on both sides - in another ten to fifteen years) and is slowly replaced with people who actually want an end to the conflict. I realize many here have friends and family living in Israel and Palestine. I know a number of developers from my previous company who live and work in Yehut. I don't want them to be injured or killed any more than the next person.
533 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:24:06am |
re: #529 Killgore Trout
To: Anonymous
RE: Your demands that Israel passively endure artillery bombardment.
NUTS!
- Israel and all others who value real peace and real freedom
534 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:24:09am |
Couldn't sleep last night. Ended-up watching the Fox and Friends that my husband has in when he is getting dressed and such in the early morning. Talk about a way to start your day --faux outrage, no matter so many Fox viewers seem angry.
And what is it with the glamour make-up and girdles on the Fox women. Haute Couture runway models are more natural looking.
and your day so far?
535 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:24:13am |
re: #526 dragonfire1981
ATTENTION BUSINESS OWNERS
Don't like having to pay for Obamacare? I have the perfect solution for you: Single Payer. That way the government and people pay for healthcare and you don't have worry about it. What a novel idea huh?
That's what gets me, most of our major trading partners have some form of universal health care, which has created a situation where folks in Europe have far more financial mobility than the supposed "land of the free." Where folks don't have to take health benefits into consideration when looking for a job.
536 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:25:06am |
re: #532 darthstar
You do know how biased the UN is against Israel, don't you?
537 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:25:10am |
re: #532 darthstar
The people dying in this conflict were born into it.
You really don't even understand what insensitive shit you just posted.
539 | dragonfire1981 Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:25:43am |
"The only way they have children is to recruit or in this case adopt the children of heterosexual couples which amounts to child abuse and child recruiting. That’s why they’re trying to get into our kindergarten books and trying to take over our public schools and homosexualize our public education so that they can recruit children into homosexuality and maintain their pool of available sex partners for their own progeny, which is our children that they are stealing and warping their minds."
I openly admit one of things I struggle with as a Christian is the notion that it would be, theoretically, more pleasing to God to have a child living with an alcoholic father and emotionally detached mother than a stable home with say , two fathers.
Now a lot of Christians will tell you the answer to this is that there's no such thing as a stable home when a homosexual couple is involved. I have a really tough time buying that and tend to believe that there are stable and troubled homosexual households just as there are stable and troubled heterosexual households.
540 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:25:50am |
re: #533 Dark_Falcon
To: Anonymous
RE: Your demands that Israel passively endure artillery bombardment.
NUTS!
- Israel and all others who value real peace and real freedom
Hey, Charles just rebuilt this place. Don't stir the shit, couch warrior.
541 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:26:12am |
re: #531 ReamWorks SKG
Amazing! If free speech/free internet activists don't like what you say, they'll shut you up.
Of course! Free speech is a one way street./
Anonymous Attacks Israeli Web Sites
In a coordinated action that began at 3 a.m. New York time Thursday, hackers attacked Web sites belonging to the Israel Defense Forces, the prime minister’s office, Israeli banks, airlines and security companies by flooding them with Web traffic, in a campaign they called #OpIsrael.
Though hackers boasted on Twitter that they had taken some 40 Israeli sites offline, Radware, a computer security company, said that in all but a few cases they were unsuccessful. But they did take down a blog page belonging to the I.D.F. and replaced the home page of what they said was a private Israeli surveillance and security company with an image of Gaza in flames and the following message: “Stop bombing Gaza! Millions of Israelis & Palestinians are lying awake, exposed and terrified.”
542 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:26:55am |
re: #534 Gretchen G.Tiger
Couldn't sleep last night. Ended-up watching the Fox and Friends that my husband has in when he is getting dressed and such in the early morning. Talk about a way to start your day --faux outrage, no matter so many Fox viewers seem angry.
And what is it with the glamour make-up and girdles on the Fox women. Haute Couture runway models are more natural looking.
and your day so far?
Confined to the house because the Explorer picked the week before I go on a week's vacation to develop a bad fuel pump. Already looked up the work required and it's gonna be a weekend project, because the pump's located above the fuel tank, meaning it's gotta be drained and dropped.
Well, guess it's a good thing I live within walking distance to my job.
543 | ProGunLiberal Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:27:11am |
re: #532 darthstar
Thank you for hitting my ideas like a nail.
544 | Dark_Falcon Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:27:44am |
re: #540 darthstar
Hey, Charles just rebuilt this place. Don't stir the shit, couch warrior.
LGF is and always has been pro-freedom, pro-Israel, and anti-terrorism. Deal with it.
I've got an interview via Skype in a few minutes, so no more from me here till it's over.
545 | ReamWorks SKG Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:28:19am |
re: #535 Targetpractice
A great many business owners--including me, and certainly many of the biggest employers--would love "single payer". Don't you think companies wouldn't mind not having to worry about employee health care?
It's really just the wacky right--the poor people of the red states--who oppose it the most, along with some right-wing elitists who don't like it on "principle."
546 | Political Atheist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:29:53am |
re: #544 Dark_Falcon
Good luck with that interview +1
547 | ReamWorks SKG Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:30:09am |
I just checked! The .il version of my personal and business sites are still up! Take _that_, anonymous!
548 | GunstarGreen Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:30:30am |
re: #539 dragonfire1981
"The only way they have children is to recruit or in this case adopt the children of heterosexual couples which amounts to child abuse and child recruiting. That’s why they’re trying to get into our kindergarten books and trying to take over our public schools and homosexualize our public education so that they can recruit children into homosexuality and maintain their pool of available sex partners for their own progeny, which is our children that they are stealing and warping their minds."
I openly admit one of things I struggle with as a Christian is the notion that it would be, theoretically, more pleasing to God to have a child living with an alcoholic father and emotionally detached mother than a stable home with say , two fathers.
Now a lot of Christians will tell you the answer to this is that there's no such thing as a stable home when a homosexual couple is involved. I have a really tough time buying that and tend to believe that there are stable and troubled homosexual households just as there are stable and troubled heterosexual households.
The simple answer is that God, at least as interpreted and set forth in the Christian Bible, is wrong on this issue.
549 | dragonfire1981 Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:31:57am |
re: #545 ReamWorks SKG
A great many business owners--including me, and certainly many of the biggest employers--would love "single payer". Don't you think companies wouldn't mind not having to worry about employee health care?
It's really just the wacky right--the poor people of the red states--who oppose it the most, along with some right-wing elitists who don't like it on "principle."
It just drives me nuts that this major business owners are griping and moaning about having to pay a little more. There will still be plenty going into their pockets. I mean come on boys, is it really a big deal to have to wait another couple of months to buy that fancy Yacht or Lamborghini?
550 | ReamWorks SKG Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:32:58am |
Ok! Back to work. The news is too depressing to read today. I worry even more about Israel losing the PR war, and the support of progressives and liberals than I do about rockets from Gaza. (My next trip to Israel is booked already for April.)
551 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:33:37am |
re: #549 dragonfire1981
It just drives me nuts that this major business owners are griping and moaning about having to pay a little more. There will still be plenty going into their pockets. I mean come on boys, is it really a big deal to have to wait another couple of months to buy that fancy Yacht or Lamborghini?
Big business is trying to put themselves in the same category as your local independent plumber or CPA.
552 | ReamWorks SKG Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:34:21am |
553 | dragonfire1981 Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:35:38am |
re: #548 GunstarGreen
The simple answer is that God, at least as interpreted and set forth in the Christian Bible, is wrong on this issue.
Well the intriguing thing to me, as a Christian, is that Christ never addressed homosexuality. It seems to be that if this was extremely important to God he would have spoke about it. He spent plenty of time on love, marriage, friendship, family, dealing with authority. He also sharply rebuked many of the religious authorities of his days. Indeed, Christ's harshest words were not for non-believers but for for the religious.
The homosexuality issue is a big one I've been wrestling with God over. I'm hetero myself, but I'm referring to the oft repeated doctrine that homosexuality is evil, sinful, etc. and the way it's been interpreted through the years.
554 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:35:53am |
re: #549 dragonfire1981
It just drives me nuts that this major business owners are griping and moaning about having to pay a little more. There will still be plenty going into their pockets. I mean come on boys, is it really a big deal to have to wait another couple of months to buy that fancy Yacht or Lamborghini?
When you come to view employees as an expense, as a piece of equipment that is replaceable and interchangeable, then the cost of providing them health care can't be justified. Gone are the days of men like Henry Ford and paying your employees enough that they can afford to buy your products. Now are the days of seeing employees as cogs in the machine.
555 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:36:15am |
re: #552 ReamWorks SKG
Now you're just pushing my buttons! And, I'll have you know I spend my money on Faziolis, not Lamborghinis.
Faziolis --LOL
I read that as Fazioli--I had my first bowl of the season of Pasta Fazioli this week.
It's better than Chili, IMHO, as cold weather food.
556 | dragonfire1981 Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:37:30am |
re: #554 Targetpractice
When you come to view employees as an expense, as a piece of equipment that is replaceable and interchangeable, then the cost of providing them health care can't be justified. Gone are the days of men like Henry Ford and paying your employees enough that they can afford to buy your products. Now are the days of seeing employees as cogs in the machine.
Employees should be seen as ASSETS and should also be seen as something more than a piece of equipment or a building or a product or any other item on a spreadsheet.
But what the heck do I know?
557 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:38:44am |
re: #553 dragonfire1981
Well the intriguing thing to me, as a Christian, is that Christ never addressed homosexuality. It seems to be that if this was extremely important to God he would have spoke about it. He spent plenty of time on love, marriage, friendship, family, dealing with authority. He also sharply rebuked many of the religious authorities of his days. Indeed, Christ's harshest words were not for non-believers but for for the religious.
The homosexuality issue is a big one I've been wrestling with God over. I'm hetero myself, but I'm referring to the oft repeated doctrine that homosexuality is evil, sinful, etc. and the way it's been interpreted through the years.
I don't think it's as much as a "moral" thing but a subconscious way to remove competition --for jobs, resources and the line to get into heaven.
"If we can marginalize certain categories of people, our lives will be easier and my opportunities will be greater"
558 | Eventual Carrion Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:38:53am |
re: #542 Targetpractice
Confined to the house because the Explorer picked the week before I go on a week's vacation to develop a bad fuel pump. Already looked up the work required and it's gonna be a weekend project, because the pump's located above the fuel tank, meaning it's gotta be drained and dropped.
Well, guess it's a good thing I live within walking distance to my job.
Check your trunk (possibly the bottom of your spare tire well). Sometimes they will put a little trap door there to get to the pump so you don't have to drop the tank.
559 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:39:23am |
re: #532 darthstar
I've often said, and will say it again, this won't be resolved until the current leadership dies off (on both sides - in another ten to fifteen years) and is slowly replaced with people who actually want an end to the conflict.
I see it differently. I see the generation that could have made peace dying off, and a new generation, raised with little hope for peace, and no memory of better times, coming into power.
If Sharon and Arafat had remained healthy and alive, I honestly think we might have gotten something.
I'm a disillusioned peace process booster. When we give up, we give up hard.
560 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:40:49am |
re: #559 SanFranciscoZionist
I see it differently. I see the generation that could have made peace dying off, and a new generation, raised with little hope for peace, and no memory of better times, coming into power.
If Sharon and Arafat had remained healthy and alive, I honestly think we might have gotten something.
I'm a disillusioned peace process booster. When we give up, we give up hard.
I am as well.
I still think the best solution is to make Israel a DMZ like the strip between North and South Korea. Let the Swiss administer it.
I'm reminded of what teachers do when two children fight over something --neither of them get it.
561 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:42:31am |
re: #559 SanFranciscoZionist
I see it differently. I see the generation that could have made peace dying off, and a new generation, raised with little hope for peace, and no memory of better times, coming into power.
If
SharonRabin and Arafat had remained healthy and alive, I honestly think we might have gotten something.I'm a disillusioned peace process booster. When we give up, we give up hard.
I think it all went to shit when Rabin was killed. I can't say that Arafat was a real "peace" partner, that's not the reason he was chosen. Arafat was chosen because he was thought to be a "unifier" but he was really just out for himself.
562 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:42:35am |
re: #552 ReamWorks SKG
Now you're just pushing my buttons! And, I'll have you know I spend my money on Faziolis, not Lamborghinis.
A buddy of mine just bought a used Lambourghini - a yellow one. 5K miles on it. Saved 90,000 dollars on the price of a new one...such a deal. Of course, the real cost of those cars is the maintenance...1200 dollar oil changes and the tires only last about five or six thousand miles...he already replaced all four and he's only had the car a few months.
563 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:42:51am |
re: #540 darthstar
Hey, Charles just rebuilt this place. Don't stir the shit, couch warrior.
I take Anonymous as a party to this conflict rather less seriously than Code Pink.
564 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:42:52am |
re: #560 Gretchen G.Tiger
I am as well.
I still think the best solution is to make Israel a DMZ like the strip between North and South Korea. Let the Swiss administer it.
I'm reminded of what teachers do when two children fight over something --neither of them get it.
Problem is that you probably can't make it wide enough to prevent rockets from being tossed over it.
565 | RadicalModerate Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:42:56am |
I see that The National Review's Rich "Affirirmative Action for White Nationalists" Lowry is desperately blowing his dogwhistle again.
The networks had barely called the election for President Barack Obama before GOP elites rushed to embrace an amnesty for illegal immigrants.
Getting killed by almost 3-to-1 among Latino voters understandably concentrates the mind, but it’s no reason to lose it. The post-election Republican reaction has been built on equal parts panic, wishful thinking and ethnic pandering.
In this opinion piece he's honestly saying that Republicans should not attempt to win over Latino voters, even in the wake of the party's shellacking in the 2012 elections.
566 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:44:24am |
I am feeling really pissed off today because some people that my son and DIL were friends with have been killed. (Saw their Facebook feeds)
I don't mean FACEBOOK friends, I mean In Real Life face-to-face friends.
567 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:44:27am |
re: #548 GunstarGreen
The simple answer is that God, at least as interpreted and set forth in the Christian Bible, is wrong on this issue.
The MEN who actually wrote and compiled the Bible and called it the Word of G-d, were wrong.
It's about Power and Control --and has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with any concept of morality.
568 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:44:57am |
re: #560 Gretchen G.Tiger
I am as well.
I still think the best solution is to make Israel a DMZ like the strip between North and South Korea. Let the Swiss administer it.
I'm reminded of what teachers do when two children fight over something --neither of them get it.
North and South Korea didn't have to give up sovereignty for that to happen, though. There's no room in this situation for a DMZ-type strip.
569 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:45:30am |
re: #560 Gretchen G.Tiger
I am as well.
I still think the best solution is to make Israel a DMZ like the strip between North and South Korea. Let the Swiss administer it.
I'm reminded of what teachers do when two children fight over something --neither of them get it.
And the right of the world to act as teacher in this case seems dubious.
570 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:45:43am |
re: #564 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears
Problem is that you probably can't make it wide enough to prevent rockets from being tossed over it.
So very true.
*sigh*
571 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:45:52am |
re: #561 Vicious Babushka
I think it all went to shit when Rabin was killed. I can't say that Arafat was a real "peace" partner, that's not the reason he was chosen. Arafat was chosen because he was thought to be a "unifier" but he was really just out for himself.
I can't believe it's been seventeen years.
572 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:46:06am |
re: #566 Vicious Babushka
I am feeling really pissed off today because some people that my son and DIL were friends with have been killed. (Saw their Facebook feeds)
((((Baba))))
573 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:46:14am |
re: #559 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm a disillusioned peace process booster. When we give up, we give up hard.
It's up to us to teach the next generation to work for peace. Right now, there are too many parties interested in keeping the peace process from working - and some of them live here in the US and see Israel as a political pawn for helping them foment instability throughout the middle east. That, too, has to change.
574 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:46:37am |
re: #566 Vicious Babushka
I am feeling really pissed off today because some people that my son and DIL were friends with have been killed. (Saw their Facebook feeds)
I don't mean FACEBOOK friends, I mean In Real Life face-to-face friends.
I am so sorry. People who were in Kiryat Malachi?
575 | A Man for all Seasons Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:46:59am |
G'day lizards! A few random thoughts today.
1. Looking to see what new developments today in the DC Sex scandal story.
( The real housewives of Afghanistan )
2. This crazy state passed the open carry firearms law. So when I go walking Winston today I think I'll strap on my 9mm pistol for the hell of it.
3. I don't have a solution for the ME issues but when I resolve it in my mind you guys will be the first to know.
576 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:47:17am |
re: #566 Vicious Babushka
I am feeling really pissed off today because some people that my son and DIL were friends with have been killed. (Saw their Facebook feeds)
I don't mean FACEBOOK friends, I mean In Real Life face-to-face friends.
I'm sorry for your loss.
577 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:47:37am |
re: #569 SanFranciscoZionist
And the right of the world to act as teacher in this case seems dubious.
I know, I know.
My mind wants to reach for anything that might stop all the violence. It's just to much for me.
Humans!
578 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:48:11am |
re: #560 Gretchen G.Tiger
Let the Swiss administer it.
Just as well as they administered Holocaust victims bank accounts.
(Not going Godwin, the Swiss really did administer the Holocaust victims bank accounts so well they kept all the money for themselves instead of distributing it to the survivors)
579 | Vicious Babushka Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:48:39am |
re: #574 SanFranciscoZionist
I am so sorry. People who were in Kiryat Malachi?
Yeah. Neighbors of my daughter-in-law (she is from Nahalat Har Chabad)
580 | Eventual Carrion Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:48:41am |
re: #554 Targetpractice
When you come to view employees as an expense, as a piece of equipment that is replaceable and interchangeable, then the cost of providing them health care can't be justified. Gone are the days of men like Henry Ford and paying your employees enough that they can afford to buy your products. Now are the days of seeing employees as cogs in the machine.
But you would think they would at least give them preventative maintenance and call in a tech if the machinery broke down.
581 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:49:50am |
re: #578 Vicious Babushka
Just as well as they administered Holocaust victims bank accounts.
(Not going Godwin, the Swiss really did administer the Holocaust victims bank accounts so well they kept all the money for themselves instead of distributing it to the survivors)
I know, I know
I'm just grasping at the wind.
582 | Targetpractice Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:50:13am |
re: #565 RadicalModerate
I see that The National Review's Rich "Affirirmative Action for White Nationalists" Lowry is desperately blowing his dogwhistle again.
In this opinion piece he's honestly saying that Republicans should not attempt to win over Latino voters, even in the wake of the party's shellacking in the 2012 elections.
Seems more an argument that the GOP not only hasn't won them over, but can't win them over, so they should continue to rail against amnesty. This bit towards the end though got me nearly rolling in laughter:
Whenever it is pointed out that illegal immigration tends to harm low-skilled workers already here, the comeback is the scurrilous canard that there are “some jobs that no Americans will do.” But most hotel maids, construction workers, coal miners and workers in meatpacking — all tough, thankless jobs — are U.S.-born. If it is hard to entice legal workers into such positions, here is a radical concept: pay them more.
This news just in: Blind squirrel finds nut.
583 | GunstarGreen Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:50:35am |
re: #567 Gretchen G.Tiger
The MEN who actually wrote and compiled the Bible and called it the Word of G-d, were wrong.
It's about Power and Control --and has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with any concept of morality.
I try to make small concessions towards my fellow humans that choose to believe in a higher power.
That being said, I openly condemn any deity that would seek to punish, in any way whatsoever, people that have done no harm to anyone else. Harm of course being measured in real, practical terms rather than 'harm' by putting them in violation of arbitrary religious tenants.
584 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:50:39am |
Had lunch yesterday with my Baba --(my adopted Jewish Parents).
I'm so glad there is a USA.
585 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:53:33am |
re: #577 Gretchen G.Tiger
I know, I know.
My mind wants to reach for anything that might stop all the violence. It's just to much for me.
Humans!
The terrible thing is that the violence is really small beans compared to, well, a hell of a lot of other places. Syria's off the charts right now. Iraq is racking up far more deaths than the I/P situation. More than 3800 people have died in Mexico's drug war this year.
This is close to my heart, but in terms of fires the world needs to put out, it's--little.
586 | Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:53:48am |
re: #531 ReamWorks SKG
Amazing! If free speech/free internet activists don't like what you say, they'll shut you up.
Cutting off other people's internet access is speech now?
587 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:53:58am |
Back to the other front in the War on Error...sweet, sweet, schadenfreude.
The Republican critics of Mitt Romney have had enough of their party’s failed presidential nominee. After Romney told donors his loss last week was due to “gifts” President Obama and the Democrats bestowed on women and minorities, Republicans are essentially coming together in a collective “go away, Mitt.”
I knew they'd turn on him like rabid dogs...I just didn't expect, or dream, that it would happen this fast.
588 | darthstar Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:54:45am |
re: #586 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society
Cutting off other people's internet access is speech now?
I will give up my porn when it slips from my warm, lubed fingers.
589 | Killgore Trout Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:55:13am |
re: #586 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society
Cutting off other people's internet access is speech now?
Anon is attacking Israeli websites today.
590 | Obdicut Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:55:35am |
re: #585 SanFranciscoZionist
It is much more that there is no end in sight, not even a beginning of a pathway. Palestinians are so radicalized, Israel has, as you say, mostly people who don't have any hope and largely seem to be going through the motions, to me.
The only thing I can do is remind myself that The Troubles seemed insoluble to me when I was a kid. My brother almost got killed by an IRA bomb when he was in London for college.
591 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:57:07am |
re: #532 darthstar
I've often said, and will say it again, this won't be resolved until the current leadership dies off (on both sides - in another ten to fifteen years) and is slowly replaced with people who actually want an end to the conflict. I realize many here have friends and family living in Israel and Palestine. I know a number of developers from my previous company who live and work in Yehut. I don't want them to be injured or killed any more than the next person.
There are still enough people outside who have to political or ideological interest in resolving the conflict, and as long as they are still meddling, things will not settle down. I do not expect it in my lifetime (I'm 53)
592 | Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:57:13am |
re: #585 SanFranciscoZionist
Yet, it gets 1000 times the attention most of the other travesties do.
Which I'm still trying to understand for those without personal ties to the situation.
593 | Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Thu, Nov 15, 2012 10:58:03am |
re: #533 Dark_Falcon
To: Anonymous
RE: Your demands that Israel passively endure artillery bombardment.
NUTS!
- Israel and all others who value real peace and real freedom
Would it kill you jackasses to actually read something before responding to it?
But when the government of Israel publicly threatened to sever all Internet and other telecommunications into and out of Gaza they crossed a line in the sand.
To pretend this statement is primarily a demand that Israel "passively endure artillery bombardment" is to tell a lie or to be ignorant of the actual text of the statement.
So, which is it?
594 | Ghost of Tom Joad Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:00:43am |
re: #591 Sol Berdinowitz
Most don't have interest in resolving conflicts. For them, it's much more about "their" side winning. Which usually entails people who profit from such conflicts.
595 | makeitstop Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:00:51am |
re: #566 Vicious Babushka
I am feeling really pissed off today because some people that my son and DIL were friends with have been killed. (Saw their Facebook feeds)
I don't mean FACEBOOK friends, I mean In Real Life face-to-face friends.
Sympathies, Alouette.
596 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:01:13am |
re: #553 dragonfire1981
Well the intriguing thing to me, as a Christian, is that Christ never addressed homosexuality. It seems to be that if this was extremely important to God he would have spoke about it. He spent plenty of time on love, marriage, friendship, family, dealing with authority. He also sharply rebuked many of the religious authorities of his days. Indeed, Christ's harshest words were not for non-believers but for for the religious.
The homosexuality issue is a big one I've been wrestling with God over. I'm hetero myself, but I'm referring to the oft repeated doctrine that homosexuality is evil, sinful, etc. and the way it's been interpreted through the years.
There is an excellent book by Rev Shelby Spong, "Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism", in which the author (an ex-Anglican Bishop no less) presents a rather convincing case that St. Paul was a conflicted, self-loathing homosexual and it is his teachings that shape a lot of the warped view of sexuality that still drags down an otherwise admirable religion.
597 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:02:19am |
re: #553 dragonfire1981
Well the intriguing thing to me, as a Christian, is that Christ never addressed homosexuality. It seems to be that if this was extremely important to God he would have spoke about it. He spent plenty of time on love, marriage, friendship, family, dealing with authority. He also sharply rebuked many of the religious authorities of his days. Indeed, Christ's harshest words were not for non-believers but for for the religious.
The homosexuality issue is a big one I've been wrestling with God over. I'm hetero myself, but I'm referring to the oft repeated doctrine that homosexuality is evil, sinful, etc. and the way it's been interpreted through the years.
Leviticus should not matter to a Christian because of the "New Covenant" that Jesus brought to us. Do we follow any of the other rules laid down there that pertained to bronze age tribal life? Things like the prohibitions against eating shellfish, wearing mixed fabrics, or growing two types of crops in the same field? No we don't. So latching onto the one verse that calls homosexuality an abomination as something that should pertain to us to pretty hypocritical.
Which leaves us with only what Paul said in Romans as the only instance of New Testament condemnation of homosexuality. I at least have never seen Paul as the final arbiter of Gods will for us, he was after all only a man.