1 b.d.  Aug 29, 2014 9:32:28pm

A proper republican tan suit.

2 b.d.  Aug 29, 2014 9:38:51pm

They sound somewhat like They Might Be Giants?

Great choice Charles, thanks for continuing to expose us to good stuff

3 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 9:39:04pm

re: #1 b.d.

A proper republican tan suit.

Snicker, lol.

4 jaunte  Aug 29, 2014 9:39:26pm

re: #1 b.d.

A proper republican tan suit.

Butternut!

5 makeitstop  Aug 29, 2014 9:39:32pm

Seen on Facebook…

6 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 9:40:39pm

re: #2 b.d.

They sound somewhat like They Might Be Giants?

Great choice Charles, thanks for continuing to expose us to good stuff

Come for the politics, stay for the tunes.

7 Kragar  Aug 29, 2014 9:41:15pm

Just got an email from the CA GOP asking me when I could volunteer some of my time to help them eliminate the Democrat majority in CA.

Youtube Video

8 jaunte  Aug 29, 2014 9:43:44pm

Pvt. John T. Appler Uniform Missouri History Museum Collection in St. Louis Missouri

Pvt. John T. Appler lived in Hannibal, Missouri, when the war broke out. In 1861, he was among those who answered pro-secessionist governor Claiborne F. Jackson’s call for troops by joining the Missouri Volunteer Militia before joining the 4th Missouri Infantry (Confederate) in early 1862. Appler fought in several engagements in Mississippi, including the Battle of Corinth, where he was wounded in the shoulder and taken prisoner. Appler escaped, rejoined his unit, and participated in the Vicksburg campaign. He was badly wounded at Champion Hill and left for dead on the battlefield. On again, he was captured and hospitalized but recovered from his wounds. After the war, he moved to St. Louis, where he worked as a printer for the Republican. He was active in Confederate veterans’ organizations for many years and died at the age of 80.
thirdmissouri.com

9 HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2014 9:46:07pm

I honestly wasn’t aware that so many RWNJs are fashionistas. If Obama really wants to troll them, he should announce that he thinks breathing is a great idea.

10 allegro  Aug 29, 2014 9:47:59pm

re: #8 jaunte

[Embedded image] Pvt. John T. Appler Uniform Missouri History Museum Collection in St. Louis Missouri

And his grandson is now a Ferguson cop making sure them darkies never forget their place.

////////////

11 teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2014 9:56:24pm
12 Dark_Falcon  Aug 29, 2014 9:56:48pm

re: #1 b.d.

A proper republican tan suit.

Lee wore gray, never tan or butternut.

13 Kid A  Aug 29, 2014 10:05:49pm

Found this tonight running down the sidelines.

14 austin_blue  Aug 29, 2014 10:09:59pm

He has No Strategy. He wore a Tan Suit. He is a Secret Muslim. He is a Secret Communist. He is not Native Born.

If he took off his shoes and walked across the Potomac River, it would only be because he was too lazy to swim.

///etc

15 makeitstop  Aug 29, 2014 10:10:41pm

re: #13 Kid A

[Embedded image]

Found this tonight running down the sidelines.

Wow. Good eye.

16 Kid A  Aug 29, 2014 10:14:14pm

re: #15 makeitstop

Wow. Good eye.

Thank you very much.

17 BeachDem  Aug 29, 2014 10:19:37pm

re: #14 austin_blue

He has No Strategy. He wore a Tan Suit. He is a Secret Muslim. He is a Secret Communist. He is not Native Born.

If he took off his shoes and walked across the Potomac River, it would only be because he was too lazy to swim.

///etc

And the important infractions:

He used brown mustard
He ate arugula
He put his feet up in the Oval Office
He went jacket-less in the Oval Office
He had multiple pies once for Thanksgiving dinner
He didn’t salute during “Hail to the Chief”
He didn’t attend some soldier’s funeral
He ate a hamburger
He wore a bike helmet

18 b.d.  Aug 29, 2014 10:19:49pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

Lee wore gray, never tan or butternut.

He might have dressed up like a future Shirley Temple when no one was looking.

//

19 BeachDem  Aug 29, 2014 10:21:49pm

re: #13 Kid A

Stunning!

20 allegro  Aug 29, 2014 10:21:49pm

re: #17 BeachDem

And the important infractions:

He used brown mustard
He ate arugula
He put his feet up in the Oval Office
He went jacket-less in the Oval Office
He had multiple pies once for Thanksgiving dinner
He didn’t salute during “Hail to the Chief”
He didn’t attend some soldier’s funeral
He ate a hamburger
He wore a bike helmet

He bowled. Badly. So there it is.

21 BeachDem  Aug 29, 2014 10:23:11pm

re: #20 allegro

He bowled. Badly. So there it is.

Oh snap—I forgot that one.

22 b.d.  Aug 29, 2014 10:25:25pm

re: #13 Kid A

[Embedded image]

Found this tonight running down the sidelines.

Wow. Both teams are saying that this is a sign that God is going to let them win this game.

//

Seriously, that is an awesome shot and the start of football season finally happening is like a promise coming to fruition.

23 BeachDem  Aug 29, 2014 10:27:53pm

COMING SOON TO THE HELL PLAZA OCTOPLEX

Kirk Cameron is a godbothering nuisance who once starred on a weirdly successful sitcom that ripped off everything it knew from Family Ties, which should tell you a goddamn lot. (Sorry, Kirk.) Kirk was the Michael J. Fox figure on the show. Yes, and Bob Lind was The New Dylan.

Anyway, Cameron has built a lucrative second career making movies aimed at Bible-banging shut-ins and fringe Christianists loop-de-loops who think these movies were what the gospels had in mind. He’s got one coming this November, and it’s a real doozy. Watch out, you atheists and Mithras devotees, Kirk Cameron owns your sorry asses.

Is it about The War On Christmas?

Why, yes, it is.

I do love me some Charles P. Pierce

esquire.com

24 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 10:42:44pm

re: #23 BeachDem

“Christian White” the white christian male protaganist? Oh come on, you have got to be kidding me here, are these people really that unimaginative?

25 sagehen  Aug 29, 2014 10:43:41pm

re: #17 BeachDem

And the important infractions:

He used brown mustard
He ate arugula
He put his feet up in the Oval Office
He went jacket-less in the Oval Office
He had multiple pies once for Thanksgiving dinner
He didn’t salute during “Hail to the Chief”
He didn’t attend some soldier’s funeral
He ate a hamburger
He wore a bike helmet

He ordered orange juice instead of coffee at a diner

26 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 10:44:30pm

re: #25 sagehen

He ordered orange juice instead of coffee at a diner

Inpeech!

27 Floral Giraffe  Aug 29, 2014 10:47:37pm

Tangerine. With no pants on.

28 Floral Giraffe  Aug 29, 2014 10:50:54pm

Charles, your music is so beautiful.

29 Kid A  Aug 29, 2014 10:57:16pm

Oh. My. God. Dim Jim is saying this photo is being used by Texas DPS to I quote:

The document was released by the Texas Department of Public Safety and warned that ISIS was actively promoting and encouraging supporters to take advantage of the porous Texas-Mexico border to carry out terrorist attacks against US citizens.

I’m laughing so hard right now, I might get evicted.

30 teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2014 11:02:03pm
31 BeachDem  Aug 29, 2014 11:02:30pm

re: #29 Kid A

Oh. My. God. Dim Jim is saying this photo is being used by Texas DPS to I quote:

[Embedded image]

I’m laughing so hard right now, I might get evicted.

If you get evicted, you can come stay with me—it’s the least I can do for the laughter you have provided with this post!

32 BeachDem  Aug 29, 2014 11:06:42pm

re: #24 ausador

“Christian White” the white christian male protaganist? Oh come on, you have got to be kidding me here, are these people really that unimaginative?

Kirk Cameron has never been accused of subtlety.

I love Pierce’s aside after the little plot explanation about the Christmas blues of one “Mr. Christian White”

And then he jumps into the river on Christmas Eve, and Clarence The Angel comes down and throws him an anvil.

33 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 11:09:28pm

I’m so glad that the Supreme Court decided to invalidate 64 years worth of campaign finance legislation. ///

By this time in the 2010 elections only $6.6 million in “dark money” had been spent, by election day it had risen to $130 million.

In 2014 the number is already over $50 million and by election day the total will be ????

All of it untraceable back to the donors that gave it to the front groups with no reporting requirements. So not only can corporations finance campaigns with no limits on contributions, they can do it totally anonymously.

Welcome to the Corporatocracy. :(

34 Dark_Falcon  Aug 29, 2014 11:12:46pm

re: #29 Kid A

Oh. My. God. Dim Jim is saying this photo is being used by Texas DPS to I quote:

[Embedded image]

I’m laughing so hard right now, I might get evicted.

It’s a new meme “Obama ignores ISIS threat from Mexico so he can keep importing future Democrats!!!11”

Good Night, All.

35 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 11:12:50pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

Purty blue… :)

36 Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2014 11:24:33pm

re: #33 ausador

I’m so glad that the Supreme Court decided to invalidate 64 years worth of campaign finance legislation. ///

[Embedded content]

By this time in the 2010 elections only $6.6 million in “dark money” had been spent, by election day it had risen to $130 million.

In 2014 the number is already over $50 million and by election day the total will be ????

All of it untraceable back to the donors that gave it to the front groups with no reporting requirements. So not only can corporations finance campaigns with no limits on contributions, they can do it totally anonymously.

Welcome to the Corporatocracy. :(

Democracy’s been sold to the highest bidder for years. All Citizen’s United did was grease the tracks.

37 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 11:26:39pm

re: #29 Kid A

Oh. My. God. Dim Jim is saying this photo is being used by Texas DPS to I quote:

The document was released by the Texas Department of Public Safety and warned that ISIS was actively promoting and encouraging supporters to take advantage of the porous Texas-Mexico border to carry out terrorist attacks against US citizens.

[Embedded image]

I’m laughing so hard right now, I might get evicted.

Jim really doesn’t get that the “warning” is sarcastic does he? SMOTI indeed, what an idiot.

link to Jim’s post.
Screenshots taken for future enjoyment if nothing else. :)

38 ausador  Aug 29, 2014 11:31:51pm

re: #36 Targetpractice

Democracy’s been sold to the highest bidder for years. All Citizen’s United did was grease the tracks.

Allowing them to do it on this scale anonymously is new, now you can’t even lobby public opinion against a corporation because of who or what they support. Because we don’t even know who they are.

39 BeachDem  Aug 29, 2014 11:31:52pm

And speaking of morons who don’t have clue fucking one what they are talking about:

40 sagehen  Aug 29, 2014 11:34:44pm

re: #38 ausador

Allowing them to do it on this scale anonymously is new, now you can’t even lobby public opinion against a corporation because of who or what they support. Because we don’t even know who they are.

We don’t even know if they’re American. Or a company.

It could be a foreign government, and there’s zero disclosure requirements.

41 WhatEVs  Aug 29, 2014 11:41:16pm

re: #24 ausador

“Christian White” the white christian male protaganist? Oh come on, you have got to be kidding me here, are these people really that unimaginative?

In a word: yes.

I LMAO when I read that. They have the subtlety of an angel’s anvil.

42 Targetpractice  Aug 29, 2014 11:42:03pm

re: #40 sagehen

We don’t even know if they’re American. Or a company.

It could be a foreign government, and there’s zero disclosure requirements.

And you’d think that would given wingnuts pause. After all, one of the faux “scandals” of the ‘08 Dem primaries was accusations that Hillary had received donations from China that were laundered through a domestic company. But no, they instead can’t look past all the money that people like the Koch brothers can now funnel into the coffers of “grass roots” groups.

43 WhatEVs  Aug 29, 2014 11:42:36pm

re: #29 Kid A

You have to admit that’s the best O’Keefe has ever looked.

44 Kragar  Aug 29, 2014 11:56:23pm
45 teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2014 12:02:35am

I’m Kirk Cameron and I’m a Persecuted American Christian Patriot™ and I think the War On Christmas is a bunch of hooey daggummit!

I am not a privileged white man.

46 teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2014 12:12:41am

And freetoken gives me my 7,000th karma point. Thanks!

47 goddamnedfrank  Aug 30, 2014 12:13:40am

So having gone through most of the available options on Amazon Prime instant video I stumbled on Night Watch … and … hmm … this is my reaction so far:

Youtube Video

48 freetoken  Aug 30, 2014 12:16:06am

re: #46 teleskiguy

Freely I have received, so freely I give.

49 freetoken  Aug 30, 2014 12:21:21am

MP3 Audio

50 GeneJockey  Aug 30, 2014 12:21:22am

re: #45 teleskiguy

I’m Kirk Cameron and I’m a Persecuted American Christian PatriotTM and I think the War On Christmas is a bunch of hooey daggummit!

I am not a privileged white man.

Too much forehead with too little face.

51 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 30, 2014 12:53:21am

Wow… didn’t see this coming.

\

Report: ISIS waterboarded captives

52 goddamnedfrank  Aug 30, 2014 12:57:24am

I’ve put a question in to Glide support asking them to confirm via a blog posting that messages are in no way user editable after they’ve been uploaded to their cloud. I know this is the case because I’ve seen their UI, but it would be nice if we could point out a definitive statement from Glide to the dead-enders.

53 goddamnedfrank  Aug 30, 2014 1:04:47am

Here’s the pertinent section from Glide’s website, under About:

Why not send videos with a messaging app?

You could, but that would take ages. Messaging apps require you to record, preview / edit, and then upload - whereas Glide is already sending your video message the moment you start recording.

So as we stated before, Glide starts streaming your file to the recipient and to their cloud simultaneously, so that the recipient can watch it in real time or later, or both in real time and then again later.

54 Single-handed sailor  Aug 30, 2014 1:07:20am

re: #51 GlutenFreeJesus

Wow… didn’t see this coming.

Report: ISIS waterboarded captives

It’s a good thing it’s not a war crime!

55 sagehen  Aug 30, 2014 1:08:28am

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

So having gone through most of the available options on Amazon Prime instant video I stumbled on Night Watch … and … hmm … this is my reaction so far:

[Embedded content]

Video

more things to watch:

Have you watched all of “Alpha House”? (four senators sharing a house in DC… written by Garry Trudeau, starring John Goodman).

How about “The Americans” (Kari Russell and Matthew Rhys as an apparently ordinary suburban couple in 1980’s Virginia… but they’re really deep cover KGB agents. Margo Martindale is their handler, Noah Emmerich and Richard Thomas are FBI agents in the counter-intelligence division).

New this year on WGN and/or Hulu, “Manhattan” hulu.com
A soapish drama about Los Alamos — the project, the scientists and their families. They’re up to episode 5.

Sons of Anarchy is about to start season 7; “Hamlet” rewritten as an outlaw biker gang.

56 ausador  Aug 30, 2014 1:08:49am

re: #44 Kragar

Gus @Gus_802

Yet more stupidity from Kirk “Atheist Banana” Cameron. theblaze.com …

Kragar @Kragar_LGF

You’ll note he didn’t say his film would be entertaining or enjoyable to watch, so points for honesty I guess @Gus_802

So ignorance is bliss I guess…

Cameron said some of the claims that will be addressed in the film include: the notion that Christmas is really a church co-opting of winter solstice celebrations, that Jesus was not born on December 25, that Christmas trees are pagan and that consumerism is overshadowing the true reason for the season.

…never mind the historians, the theologians in his own religion would happily tell him the truth if he would listen. Instead he is just spreading ignorance and calling it the truth because…Jesus!

57 ausador  Aug 30, 2014 1:20:29am

Not quite as cute as the tiny piglet vine yesterday but…

58 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 30, 2014 1:58:00am

re: #17 BeachDem

And the important infractions:

He used brown mustard
He ate arugula
He put his feet up in the Oval Office
He went jacket-less in the Oval Office
He had multiple pies once for Thanksgiving dinner
He didn’t salute during “Hail to the Chief”
He didn’t attend some soldier’s funeral
He ate a hamburger
He wore a bike helmet

He wears mom jeans and pitches like a girl

59 Timothy Watson  Aug 30, 2014 4:16:25am

How long until one of the nutjob GOP presidential candidates suggest we use tactical nuclear weapons against either ISIS or Russia?

60 Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2014 5:00:40am

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

So having gone through most of the available options on Amazon Prime instant video I stumbled on Night Watch … and … hmm … this is my reaction so far:

[Embedded content]

That was a very interesting movie. It’s nice to see how other cultures imagine the supernatural.

That scene on the bridge where the leaders of Light and Darkness are whispering the terms of their treaty into that guy’s ears and you see the knowledge break him was really creepy.

61 Lidane  Aug 30, 2014 5:24:26am

WTFITS:

62 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 5:24:34am

It’s morning in Illinois.

I hate Illinois Mornings.

you?

63 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 5:26:43am

re: #61 Lidane

WTFITS:

[Embedded content]

Lame attempt at trying to prove they aren’t the media outlet for the American Taliban?

64 Lidane  Aug 30, 2014 5:32:29am

re: #63 FemNaziBitch

Lame attempt at trying to prove they aren’t the media outlet for the American Taliban?

I guess. It was probably also a conservative attempt at humor. They’re not very good at that, bless their hearts.

65 Lidane  Aug 30, 2014 5:38:22am

That sound you hear this morning is all the RWNJs on Twitter hitting their fainting couches over the White House response to their petition about Sgt. Tahmooressi, especially this part:

We respect the rule of law and expect the judicial process of sovereign nations to protect other U.S. citizens who might find themselves in similar circumstances in the future. We will continue to monitor the case and work with the Mexican authorities as this case proceeds through the Mexican judicial system. We continue to urge the Mexican authorities to process this case expeditiously.

The White House didn’t openly offer to bribe any Mexican judges and didn’t immediately demand his release. They’re letting the process play itself out in Mexico, so of course Obama hates the Marines. Or something.

66 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 5:45:09am

re: #65 Lidane

That sound you hear this morning is all the RWNJs on Twitter hitting their fainting couches over the White House response to their petition about Sgt. Tahmooressi, especially this part:

The White House didn’t openly offer to bribe any Mexican judges and didn’t immediately demand his release. They’re letting the process play itself out in Mexico, so of course Obama hates the Marines. Or something.

Bbbbbut, America!!!!! or something]]

67 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 5:46:05am

re: #57 ausador

Not quite as cute as the tiny piglet vine yesterday but…

[Embedded content]

If you don’t like livestock in the house, that clip will get your goat for sure.

68 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 5:47:43am

re: #65 Lidane

That sound you hear this morning is all the RWNJs on Twitter hitting their fainting couches over the White House response to their petition about Sgt. Tahmooressi, especially this part:

The White House didn’t openly offer to bribe any Mexican judges and didn’t immediately demand his release. They’re letting the process play itself out in Mexico, so of course Obama hates the Marines. Or something.

To be fair, I’m not sure a bribe could be offered in this case. The judge assigned to has a reputation as a stickler for procedure and for being honest.

69 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 5:50:07am
70 sattv4u2  Aug 30, 2014 5:54:53am

re: #69 FemNaziBitch

Beer baiting!!

Image: il_340x270.609881288_stc4.jpg

71 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 5:55:03am
72 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 5:56:21am

re: #70 sattv4u2

Beer baiting!!

Image: il_340x270.609881288_stc4.jpg

There is bait for beer?

What pound line do you use for it?

73 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 6:00:44am

bbl

74 sattv4u2  Aug 30, 2014 6:04:16am

re: #72 FemNaziBitch

There is bait for beer?

What pound line do you use for it?

6 pack gauge is recommended

75 Lidane  Aug 30, 2014 6:20:00am

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

To be fair, I’m not sure a bribe could be offered in this case. The judge assigned to has a reputation as a stickler for procedure and for being honest.

That and Mexico is a sovereign nation with their own laws, which Sgt. Tahmooressi broke. Even if the judge wasn’t a stickler for the rules, we can’t bribe him. We need to let their legal process play out.

You wouldn’t know that based on the Twitter reaction from the RWNJs. They’re acting like Obama is handing him off to ISIS or something.

76 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 30, 2014 6:23:37am

re: #65 Lidane

That sound you hear this morning is all the RWNJs on Twitter hitting their fainting couches over the White House response to their petition about Sgt. Tahmooressi…

It’s obvious that our failure to send US troops into Mexico since 1916 has caused them to disrespect our authoritah.

77 Timothy Watson  Aug 30, 2014 6:25:08am

re: #75 Lidane

That and Mexico is a sovereign nation with their own laws, which Sgt. Tahmooressi broke. Even if the judge wasn’t a stickler for the rules, we can’t bribe him. We need to let their legal process play out.

You wouldn’t know that based on the Twitter reaction from the RWNJs. They’re acting like Obama is handing him off to ISIS or something.

I wonder how many of the RWNJs were a-okay with the American teen being caned in Singapore for vandalism.

78 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 30, 2014 6:28:37am

re: #77 Timothy Watson

I wonder how many of the RWNJs were a-okay with the American teen being caned in Singapore for vandalism.

About the same number who are a-okay with an American teen being gunned down in Ferguson.

79 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 30, 2014 6:29:36am

re: #62 FemNaziBitch

It’s morning in Illinois.

I hate Illinois Mornings.

you?

I don’t really have a problem with Illinois mornings, when I’m not scheduled to work ;)

Oh, and I don’t live in Chicago. :D

80 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 30, 2014 6:33:59am

re: #62 FemNaziBitch

It’s morning in Illinois.

I hate Illinois Mornings.

you?

I’m in an Illinois morning as well. A strong cup of coffee is helping.

81 PhillyPretzel  Aug 30, 2014 6:38:02am

Good Morning. I am in Valley Forge and the weather is okay.

82 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 6:38:45am

re: #80 Feline Fearless Leader

I’m in an Illinois morning as well. A strong cup of coffee is helping.

Where in the Land of Lincoln are you today?

83 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 30, 2014 6:43:13am

re: #75 Lidane

That and Mexico is a sovereign nation with their own laws, which Sgt. Tahmooressi broke. Even if the judge wasn’t a stickler for the rules, we can’t bribe him. We need to let their legal process play out.

You wouldn’t know that based on the Twitter reaction from the RWNJs. They’re acting like Obama is handing him off to ISIS or something.

Considering that Congress has appropriated $2.1 billion since fiscal year 2008 to implement the Merida Initiative, calling upon Mexico to ignore the rule of law for Sgt. Tahmooressi seems a bit inconsistent.

The Merida Initiative is an unprecedented partnership between the United States and Mexico to fight organized crime and associated violence while furthering respect for human rights and the rule of law. Based on principles of common and shared responsibility, mutual trust, and respect for sovereign independence, the two countries’ efforts have built confidence that is transforming the bilateral relationship.

84 Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2014 6:46:16am

re: #83 Higgs Boson’s Mate

This would also be a good time to forget that Texas executed a Mexican citizen in violation of the agreed-upon requirements for diplomatic notice.

85 sattv4u2  Aug 30, 2014 6:50:09am

re: #81 PhillyPretzel

Good Morning. I am in Valley Forge and the weather is okay.

As much as your help would have been appreciated, you DO know that you’re 236 years late to the battle, right??!!!
/

86 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 30, 2014 6:52:29am

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

Where in the Land of Lincoln are you today?

Near Marion. Headed over to the Duquoin Fair later this morning.

87 PhillyPretzel  Aug 30, 2014 6:55:28am

re: #85 sattv4u2

And I would have ended up as a Molly Pitcher. thefreedictionary.com

88 sattv4u2  Aug 30, 2014 6:55:54am

and on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

89 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 6:56:36am

re: #84 Decatur Deb

This would also be a good time to forget that Texas executed a Mexican citizen in violation of the agreed-upon requirements for diplomatic notice.

When that man was allowed to contact his consulate wouldn’t have made a difference in the case: He was clearly guilty of the murder he was convicted of. Commuting a sentence of that sort of triviality not related to his constitutional rights or actual guilt would have been a mistake.

The case you refer to was also remarkable for the division over it in Bill Clinton’s cabinet. While Secretary of State Albright wanted the execution halted and the death sentence commuted, Attorney General Reno got behind Texas and pushed.

90 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 6:57:03am

re: #86 Feline Fearless Leader

Near Marion. Headed over to the Duquoin Fair later this morning.

Cool. Have fun.

91 Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2014 7:00:21am

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

When that man was allowed to contact his consulate wouldn’t have made a difference in the case: He was clearly guilty of the murder he was convicted of. Commuting a sentence of that sort of triviality not related to his constitutional rights or actual guilt would have been a mistake.

The case you refer to was also remarkable for the division over it in Bill Clinton’s cabinet. While Secretary of State Albright wanted the execution halted and the death sentence commuted, Attorney General Reno got behind Texas and pushed.

As I remember he was very likely guilty, but do you think the Mexican government is going to treat the Marine with any special consideration after Perry told them (and the Pope) to pound sand? The execution was only a few years ago.

92 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 7:07:09am

re: #91 Decatur Deb

As I remember he was very likely guilty, but do you think the Mexican government is going to treat the Marine with any special consideration after Perry told them (and the Pope) to pound sand? The execution was only a few years ago.

Actually, the one I was thinking about was back in the 1990s.

As for the current situation, as long as normal rules are being followed by the judge no complaints can be made.

93 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 30, 2014 7:11:08am

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

As for the current situation, as long as normal rules are being followed by the judge no complaints can be made.

Conservatives would bitch even if you hanged them with a new rope.

94 Lidane  Aug 30, 2014 7:11:32am

Speaking of fun on the Mexican border:

Border Patrol Agent Fires At Armed Militia Member Near Rio Grande

A border patrol agent fired several shots at an armed militia member while chasing a group of immigrants Friday near Brownsville, Texas.

Border Patrol Spokesman Omar Zamora told the Associated Press that agents were pursuing a group of immigrants when one agent spotted a man holding a gun near the Rio Grande.

The agent fired four shots but did not hit the man, Zamora said. The man then dropped his weapon and identified himself as a militia member.

The unidentified man was not arrested and appeared to have permission to be on private property where the incident occurred, Cameron County Sheriff Omar Lucio told the AP. Lucio, whose agency is involved in investigating the incident, said the man was wearing camouflage and was carrying either a rifle or shotgun.

The sheriff said militias really aren’t needed at the Texas-Mexico border given the number of law enforcement agencies already working to secure the area.

“It just creates a problem from my point of view, because we don’t know who they are,” Lucio told the AP.

Naturally, the Keyboard Kommandos over on Twitter are all OBUMMER DECLARES OPEN SEASON ON PATRIOTS!!! ELEVENTY! when the truth is much simpler — a bunch of dipshits in camo and carrying guns are going to cause this kind of problem for the actual law enforcement officers on the border.

95 Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2014 7:13:59am

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

Actually, the one I was thinking about was back in the 1990s.

As for the current situation, as long as normal rules are being followed by the judge no complaints can be made.

Murder was in 1994, execution more recently than I remember.

npr.org

Do you know who like it when the diplomatic ‘niceties’ are honored? Americans who spend a lot of time overseas, in the reach of foreign legal systems.

96 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 7:18:36am

re: #94 Lidane

Speaking of fun on the Mexican border:

Border Patrol Agent Fires At Armed Militia Member Near Rio Grande

Naturally, the Keyboard Kommandos over on Twitter are all OBUMMER DECLARES OPEN SEASON ON PATRIOTS!!! ELEVENTY! when the truth is much simpler — a bunch of dipshits in camo and carrying guns are going to cause this kind of problem for the actual law enforcement officers on the border.

This time nobody got killed, thank God. But if a Border Patrol Agent ever kills a militiaman or vice versa, then things will get very ugly very fast.

97 darthstar  Aug 30, 2014 7:23:08am

Aw…Jesse Benton is out of a job…thanks, Obama.

98 Lidane  Aug 30, 2014 7:24:37am

re: #96 Dark_Falcon

This time nobody got killed, thank God. But if a Border Patrol Agent ever kills a militiaman or vice versa, then things will get very ugly very fast.

It will be the militia man’s own goddamn fault if he gets killed. They’re the ones going to the border over the objections of law enforcement and sticking themselves where they’re not wanted.

I will have zero sympathy the first time some militia yahoo dies while the Border Patrol are pursuing someone else.

99 Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2014 7:24:44am

Off to mow before the rain.

100 Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2014 7:25:21am

re: #98 Lidane

It will be the militia man’s own goddamn fault if he gets killed. They’re the ones going to the border over the objections of law enforcement and sticking themselves where they’re not wanted.

I will have zero sympathy the first time some militia yahoo dies while the Border Patrol are pursuing someone else.

Now, Let’s not start the victim-blaming.

101 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 30, 2014 7:29:42am

re: #94 Lidane

The whole flap could have been avoided had the Border Patrol Agent simply stated that he thought the militiaman was Black.

102 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 7:33:21am

re: #98 Lidane

Don’t be so sure. Militia men are yahoos all right, but never pre-assign blame for a shooting incident before it happens. That the kind of thing Jim Hoft and the Stalkers do.

BTW, does “Jim Hoft and the Stalkers” work as a band name?

103 darthstar  Aug 30, 2014 7:44:01am

re: #101 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The whole flap could have been avoided had the Border Patrol Agent simply stated that he thought the militiaman was Black.

This is my favorite part:

The agent fired four shots but did not hit the man, Zamora said. The man then dropped his weapon and identified himself as a militia member.

Country commando goes out to play soldier, interferes with law enforcement, shits pants, and surrenders.

THAT’S why I don’t believe the “border patrol better be careful” rhetoric like this from Militia sympathizers.

But if a Border Patrol Agent ever kills a militiaman or vice versa, then things will get very ugly very fast.

If a militiaman kills an agent, the rest of them will disappear and deny they ever even went near the border out of fear. And the same thing will happen if an agent accidentally kills one of those stupid fuckers because he thinks he’s some kind of sentry for illegal activity.

104 Mattand  Aug 30, 2014 7:44:03am

re: #98 Lidane

re: #102 Dark_Falcon

I’m with Lidane on this one. You want to strap on your guns and play Rambo in TX so you can ‘protect’ the border by killing brown people, you fucking get what’s coming to you.

And I absolutely will not apologize for that. Gun ownership for many Americans has metastasized from Constitutional right to mental illness. These wannabe Punishers are Exhibits A though Z.

105 darthstar  Aug 30, 2014 7:45:13am

re: #104 Mattand

Militia men surrender at the first sign of conflict. Bunch of fucking scaredy cats.

106 Mattand  Aug 30, 2014 7:45:57am

re: #104 Mattand

I wrote the above with images of the pathetic ammosexuals walking around Kroeger’s with infants in their arms and assault weapons on their backs.

107 Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 30, 2014 7:46:55am

re: #105 darthstar

Militia men surrender at the first sign of conflict. Bunch of fucking scaredy cats.

I’d actually prefer that to them immediately initiating a firefight.

108 Mattand  Aug 30, 2014 7:47:26am

re: #105 darthstar

Militia men surrender at the first sign of conflict. Bunch of fucking scaredy cats.

As someone alluded above, the Border Patrol agents were probably white. Any other color, and families would be planning funerals for some federal employees right now.

109 darthstar  Aug 30, 2014 7:50:16am

re: #108 Mattand

As someone alluded above, the Border Patrol agents were probably white. Any other color, and families would be planning funerals for some federal employees right now.

Nah…border agents aren’t disguising themselves as immigrants. They’re wearing uniforms and badges.

110 Mattand  Aug 30, 2014 7:51:45am

re: #107 Feline Fearless Leader

I’d actually prefer that to them immediately initiating a firefight.

This guy may have been the rare example of a militia man with a functioning brain.

111 Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 30, 2014 7:54:17am

The ammosexuals consistently demonstrate the special kind of courage that it takes to wave around a firearm while being positive that no one will shoot back.

112 Mattand  Aug 30, 2014 7:54:47am

re: #109 darthstar

Nah…border agents aren’t disguising themselves as immigrants. They’re wearing uniforms and badges.

LOL, if the border agent were of Mexican or Hispanic descent, the guy’s head would have exploded a la Scanners.

“Brown person… has gun… must kill… has badge… speaks English… probably shouldn’t kill… DOES NOT COMPUTE! ERROR ERROR ERROR”

*pop*

113 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 7:55:45am

re: #108 Mattand

As someone alluded above, the Border Patrol agents were probably white. Any other color, and families would be planning funerals for some federal employees right now.

More likely the militiaman would have been the one shot dead in that case. But that would touch off an even bigger social bomb, as I can see the wingnut headlines now:

“THE NEW ALAMO: EVIL BROWN MEXICAN BORDER PATROL AGENT ON THE CARTEL PAYROLL MURDERS HEROIC TEXAN DEFENDER OF FREEDOM!!!11

OBAMA AND HOLDER’S REFUSAL TO TURN EVIL MEXICAN OVER TO DEFENDERS OF FREEDOM TO BE HANGED IS PROOF BOTH [n-word]S HATE WHITE PEOPLE!!!!111

114 darthstar  Aug 30, 2014 7:57:14am

re: #110 Mattand

This guy may have been the rare example of a militia man with a functioning brain.

I’m guessing he’ll find something more fun to do with his free time, like picking parts at the wrecking yard, now that he’s got a war story to tell at the bar.

One less militia man protecting us from scary brown kids.

115 darthstar  Aug 30, 2014 8:01:03am

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

Social bombs are harmless. Wingnut reactions will be the same no matter what happens. They’re not even entertaining anymore.

Notice that there’ve been zero instances of “Militia stops group of immigrants, holds them for border patrol” stories? Is it possible that’s because they’re not actually patrolling for immigrants, but pretending for show?

116 ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2014 8:01:17am

re: #7 Kragar

Just got an email from the CA GOP asking me when I could volunteer some of my time to help them eliminate the Democrat majority in CA.

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Morning all! Hope it’s not too early to light up some good tunes.

Seeing this post and keeping in mind this is a music thread…I thought of this song for Kragar’s response to the California GOP request.

Never is a long time…Glass Harp 1972 in a TV studio…live.

And it allows me to remember one of my favorite Ohio bands. Glass Harp played our high school in ‘72, and by the looks of the guys, I’m thinking it was right around the same time this video was made.

And for music buffs…check out Phil Keaggy. Even Jimi was impressed with Phil’s wonderful chops. Glass Harp recorded at Electric Ladyland studios.

Youtube Video

117 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 8:06:19am

re: #115 darthstar

Social bombs are harmless. Wingnut reactions will be the same no matter what happens. They’re not even entertaining anymore.

Social bombs are NOT harmless, Darth, not when they involve people getting killed. When those three Israeli boys were kidnapped and murdered earlier this summer, the social bomb that detonated among the ‘Settler’ community in Israel resulted in a Palestinian teenage boy being murdered in reprisal.

Note: Do however remember that Israel has arrested the Jewish killers and charged then with murder, while Hamas refuses to even say the Arab killers did anything wrong.

118 darthstar  Aug 30, 2014 8:13:46am

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

Please tell me you’re not equating south Texas with Gaza. And it would seem killing a couple thousand Palestinians(largely children) would have been payback enough…even for Netanyahu.

119 Lidane  Aug 30, 2014 8:15:34am

re: #102 Dark_Falcon

The militias are going to the border over the objections of law enforcement. If they get shot or shot at, especially during a Border Patrol chase, they only have themselves to blame for it. They put themselves into the line of fire to try and prove they’re tough guys.

And if one of those guys shoots an American and/or a Border Patrol agent? Throw the book at them. Hard.

120 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 8:18:53am

re: #118 darthstar

In answer your first sentence: No, I’m not making such an equation.

Your second sentence misses my point: I was not talking about ‘payback’ in terms of governmental reactions, I was making clear that unlike Hamas Israel took proper action against its murderous assholes.

And lastly you can have a downding for saying Israel killed Palestinian children as payback for the murders of its citizens. Israel didn’t launch any incursions or fire any weapons into Gaza until Gazan Islamists started firing rockets into Israel. Again.

121 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2014 8:26:10am
122 Ryan King  Aug 30, 2014 8:35:50am

You guys need to go camping.

123 Lidane  Aug 30, 2014 8:36:20am

And here’s the Cliff’s Notes of that editorial:

124 wrenchwench  Aug 30, 2014 8:37:28am

re: #122 Ryan King

You guys need to go camping.

And murder a campfire song?

125 Mattand  Aug 30, 2014 8:38:50am

re: #124 wrenchwench

And murder a campfire song?

Nice callback.

126 Ryan King  Aug 30, 2014 8:40:45am

Kumbaya

127 Ryan King  Aug 30, 2014 8:42:19am

We’re not advocating an invasion but we need a military strategy

That’s what a bombing campaign is, General.

128 wrenchwench  Aug 30, 2014 8:42:27am

re: #116 ObserverArt

Oh, look what else they did.

Youtube Video

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129 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2014 8:46:02am

There was some discussion about doing something like this:

130 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 8:47:39am

re: #123 Lidane

Of course they’re calling mostly for the use of armed force, because armed force is the only thing that can destroy ISIS. The “Islamic State” does not have some territorial grievance we can rectify; Its grievance is that the United States exists. It murders men after they surrender as a matter of routine, rapes women and forces them to convert to Salafism, it loots towns bare and then rigs them with explosives. Such an organization cannot be reasoned with, it must be eliminated by main force.

ISIS Delenda Est.

131 Skip Intro  Aug 30, 2014 8:50:46am

Hey kids, it’s Sing Along Saturday.

How about a few from the 1937 IBM Songbook?

Just to get you started:

We don’t pretend we’re gay.
We always feel that way,
Because we’re filling the world with sunshine.
With I.B.M. machines,
We’ve got the finest means,
For brightly painting the clouds with sunshine.

—from “Painting the Clouds with Sunshine”

or maybe you’ll like this one better:

Thomas Watson is our inspiration,
Head and soul of our splendid I.B.M.
We are pledged to him in every nation,
Our President and most beloved man.
His wisdom has guided each division
In service to all humanity
We have grown and broadened with his vision,
None can match him or our great company.
T. J. Watson, we all honor you,
You’re so big and so square and so true,
We will follow and serve with you forever,
All the world must know what I. B. M. can do.

—from “To Thos. J. Watson, President, I.B.M. Our Inspiration”

Here’s the link to the article and the songbook.

arstechnica.com

132 Varek Raith  Aug 30, 2014 8:52:35am

Please Feel Free to Shut the F*ck Up About Obama’s Tan Suit

Jesus H. Christ, you fucking children. You’d think Obama walked into the press room with his fly wide open and a streamer of toilet paper stuck to his shoe. It’s just a goddamn tan suit, people!

Yep.

133 Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2014 8:54:26am
134 Who_is_Jon_Snow?  Aug 30, 2014 8:55:10am

Maybe, just maybe, I will get a chance this week to not see Crystal Palace lose.

135 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 8:57:32am

And now for something completely different:

In Russia, Sign a Mortgage and Get a Cat — But Only for Two Hours
BY Thomas Stackpole

Russia’s largest bank wants to lend you a cat. Isn’t that nice?

What did you do for the good folks of Sberbank, the Moscow-based lender, that would make them want to drive a van to your home and drop off one of their 10 cats — which they keep just for occasions like this — so you can hang out with it for not more than two hours? Well, they just lent you the money for the house and, as Russian superstition has it, it’s good luck for the first creature to cross the threshold of a new home to be a feline. And, yes, the cat has to be returned to the bank.

This neighborly campaign from the friendliest of all Russian banking behemoths is a ploy to cash in on Russia’s mortgage market boom. According to the Central Bank of Russia, demand for home mortgages is on the rise. People “watch[ing] their savings lose value amid a sliding ruble and rising interest rates” are the driving factor, according to the Moscow Times. Cats, apparently, are the key for Sberbank cashing in.

The excerpt is short because the remaining two full paragraphs are insufficiently respectful to the Feline Overlords. Mr. Stackpole clearly fails to grasp that Sberbank’s Feline Overlords are using this offer to ensure that the bank is only loaning money for cat-suitable homes.

136 wrenchwench  Aug 30, 2014 9:01:08am

re: #133 Charles Johnson

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I’d settle for his adult records.

137 Lidane  Aug 30, 2014 9:06:38am

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

And exactly where are we going to put boots on the ground in order to fight them?

138 Ryan King  Aug 30, 2014 9:07:18am

Wilson’s arrest records are more relevant that Brown’s.

139 Skip Intro  Aug 30, 2014 9:12:24am

More from what appears to be the most totally corrupt police department (along with the Ferguson PD) in the US.

The St. Louis County police officer who pushed a CNN journalist on live television in Ferguson, Missouri, and was earlier suspended from duty after a videotape surfaced in which he threatened to “kill everybody,” has retired.

St. Louis County police officer Dan Page, a 35-year police veteran, had his last day with the force on August 25th, MSNBC reported on Friday night. A representative of the St. Louis County Police Chief told MSNBC that Page is expected to receive a his full pension.

huffingtonpost.com

140 wrenchwench  Aug 30, 2014 9:12:36am

re: #138 Ryan King

Wilson’s arrest records are more relevant that Brown’s.

I’d settle for Wilson’s work records. Those are more relevant. And any pre-employment evaluations, that kind of thing.

But really, the most relevant things are the witness reports from August 9th, and the recordings corroborating them.

141 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 9:14:12am

re: #137 Lidane

And exactly where are we going to put boots on the ground in order to fight them?

We don’t necessarily have to have troops on the front line.What we need to do is to commit to supplying weapons, air support and trainers in sufficient quantities to enable local forces to grind ISIS under.

142 jaunte  Aug 30, 2014 9:15:08am

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

The Saudi royal family should pay for it; they’re the ones ISIS is coming for.

143 Skip Intro  Aug 30, 2014 9:15:40am

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

We don’t necessarily have to have troops on the front line.What we need to do is to commit to supplying weapons, air support and trainers in sufficient quantities to enable local forces to grind ISIS under.

Too bad you’re too young to remember a little place called Vietnam. That’s how we started off there too.

144 wrenchwench  Aug 30, 2014 9:16:37am

re: #143 Skip Intro

Too bad you’re too young to remember a little place called Vietnam. That’s how we started off there too.

And we had a better handle on who the local forces were there.

145 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 9:16:46am

re: #143 Skip Intro

Too bad you’re too young to remember a little place called Vietnam. That’s how we started off there too.

Barack Obama isn’t Lyndon Johnson, nor is ISIS the NVA.

146 wrenchwench  Aug 30, 2014 9:17:30am

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

Barack Obama isn’t Lyndon Johnson, nor is ISIS the NVA.

That doesn’t mean there are no parallels.

147 Skip Intro  Aug 30, 2014 9:18:00am

re: #142 jaunte

The Saudi royal family should pay for it; they’re the ones ISIS is coming for.

I wonder if we ever got paid by the Kuwaitis for saving their rich asses from Saddam?

148 wrenchwench  Aug 30, 2014 9:18:14am

It’s simple.

149 jaunte  Aug 30, 2014 9:18:25am

re: #147 Skip Intro

I doubt it.

150 Lidane  Aug 30, 2014 9:20:24am

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

We don’t necessarily have to have troops on the front line.What we need to do is to commit to supplying weapons, air support and trainers in sufficient quantities to enable local forces to grind ISIS under.

Which local forces? Where? Do those countries want us there? What are the logistics on the ground to get those weapons, support, and trainers to those areas? Etc.

151 wrenchwench  Aug 30, 2014 9:20:58am

re: #148 wrenchwench

It’s simple.

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Hey, he’s a cyclist!

Mohamed Yehia
@yeh1a

Head of Output - BBC Arabic / Cyclist. Views expressed are mine. Tweeting about #MiddleEast #BBC #Egypt #Syria #Iraq #Libya #WorldNews

Although the way he wrote it, ‘cyclist’ looks like an additional language.

152 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Aug 30, 2014 9:23:54am

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

We don’t necessarily have to have troops on the front line.What we need to do is to commit to supplying weapons, air support and trainers in sufficient quantities to enable local forces to grind ISIS under.

Didn’t we already spend 10+ years training Iraqi forces? And didn’t ISIL already gain much of their equipment from overtaking said trained forces?

153 Skip Intro  Aug 30, 2014 9:23:56am

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

It’s amazing how often the weapons and training we provide to the “good guys” end up being used against us later.

154 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 9:24:17am

re: #148 wrenchwench

It’s simple.

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Its unwise to cross the Irish.

155 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 9:25:47am

re: #150 Lidane

Which local forces? Where? Do those countries want us there? What are the logistics on the ground to get those weapons, support, and trainers to those areas? Etc.

Here are some good thoughts on the questions you are raising.

156 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 9:26:46am

re: #153 Skip Intro

It’s amazing how often the weapons and training we provide to the “good guys” end up being used against us later.

Though we often get our share of use of stuff we captured from the bad guys as well.

157 Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2014 9:27:10am
158 jaunte  Aug 30, 2014 9:27:56am

Irish Mirror:

Our brave soldiers managed to save the peacekeepers from a massacre by securing an escape route for the Filipinos near the Israeli-Syrian border.

The militants had captured 43 Fijian soldiers from one UN post and transported them to where the Filipino troops were stationed.

They demanded those troops hand over their guns in exchange for the men and women.

But before any deal could be made, the Filipinos managed to escape from the post and were left isolated by the jihadists who were chasing them down.
irishmirror.ie

160 wrenchwench  Aug 30, 2014 9:28:54am

re: #157 Charles Johnson

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What could POSSIBLY be in that record to justify shooting him without due process?

tweeted it at him

161 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 30, 2014 9:30:07am
162 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 9:32:49am

Wingnuts have something else to whine about this morning.

163 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 9:34:28am

re: #159 Charles Johnson

I also note this guy’s profile contains the “Melon Label” bit of DERPery.

164 sagehen  Aug 30, 2014 9:34:44am

re: #147 Skip Intro

I wonder if we ever got paid by the Kuwaitis for saving their rich asses from Saddam?

That war cost us $0. Literally. Zero.

Some of the countries that didn’t send troops sent money instead (Japan, Brazil…) — we got the job done so quickly and efficiently and cost-effectively, we had to refund the difference. (It would have been unseemly to keep the funds and turn a profit on the operation).

165 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 9:34:52am
166 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 9:36:46am

re: #164 sagehen

That war cost us $0. Literally. Zero.

Some of the countries that didn’t send troops sent money instead (Japan, Brazil…) — we got the job done so quickly and efficiently and cost-effectively, we had to refund the difference. (It would have been unseemly to keep the funds and turn a profit on the operation).

We also didn’t finish the job. Leaving Saddam Hussein in power was a consensus decision, but IMO it was the wrong decision.

167 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 9:36:48am
168 jaunte  Aug 30, 2014 9:37:34am
The U.S. Department of Defense has estimated the cost of the [First] Gulf War at $61 billion.

Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States covered $36 billion.

Germany and Japan covered $16 billion.
cnn.com

169 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 9:37:53am

Here, have a look.

170 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 30, 2014 9:38:13am

Hmm. Might be picking my first fight on twitter. BigEddie

171 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 9:40:45am

I missed this story last month, but its relevant for those following events in Ukraine:

9K333 Verba MANPADS now in service with Russian military

The newest Russian man-portable air defence system (MANPADS), the 9K333 Verba (“Pussy Willow”) has been finally issued to the Russian armed forces, having made its appearance with the Ivanovo VDV division after passing Army testing in the summer of 2011 and being confirmed for production in late 2011.

The Verba is an advanced weapon in several ways. It features improved engine performance and a heavier warhead (approximately 1.5 kilograms), as well as extended range. The new MANPADS can now hit targets at ranges of 500 to 6,500 meters, altitudes of up to 4.5 kilometres, and at a speed of up to 500 meters/second.

However, the real innovative features of the 9K333 are the updated warhead seeker and fire control system. The seeker has been upgraded from the previous-generation Igla-S missile, enhancing accuracy and improving the seeker’s ability to filter out interference, improving its performance against countermeasures. Unlike the seeker on Igla, which uses two separate IR sensors that cross-check against one another, the Verba’s seeker makes use of three, making it even harder for a target aircraft to disrupt the system using decoys.

The 9K333 launchers in a unit are linked to an Automated Control System, which tracks potential targets before they are within engagement range, and automatically assigns the task to the launcher crew that is best poised to fire on the target. This is claimed to reduce the Verba crews’ reaction time by a factor of 10 (from a previous time of 3 to 5 minutes). Furthermore, according to Colonel Andrey Musienko, the commander of the 98th VDV Division’s Air Defence Regiment, “the use of the automated system avoids incidents related to human errors, such as friendly fire attacks on a plane or helicopter.”

The aircraft/SAM spiral continues.

172 jaunte  Aug 30, 2014 9:41:19am

re: #169 Gus

Hard to tell if they’re complaining about the ‘messy world’ mention or the ‘social media’ mention.

173 sagehen  Aug 30, 2014 9:41:32am

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

We also didn’t finish the job. Leaving Saddam Hussein in power was a consensus decision, but IMO it was the wrong decision.

The coalition would have fallen apart if we’d tried to go to Baghdad. We had 80 countries standing shoulder to shoulder with us, including most of the Arab nations, and they’d have been majorly pissed off (so majorly we’d have had to fight them too, and their troops were right there next to us, within spitting range. I think we even shared comissaries with some of them.)

174 jaunte  Aug 30, 2014 9:41:52am

Mentioning social media = tan suit.

175 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 9:42:11am

re: #170 Rightwingconspirator

Anyone have a good link with which to reply to this fellow:

176 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 9:43:38am

re: #174 jaunte

Mentioning social media = tan suit.

Well, I for one liked Obama’s tan suit. I thought it was was well-fitted and summery.

There, I said it!

177 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 9:43:41am

re: #174 jaunte

Mentioning social media = tan suit.

Think I’ll be a pain in the ass today on Twitter. Trolls be damned. :D

178 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 9:44:40am
179 Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2014 9:46:12am

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

Anyone have a good link with which to reply to this fellow:

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Law Enforcement Officials Admit Officer Wilson Fired at Michael Brown as He Ran Away

180 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 9:46:26am

Now I’ll make the LA Times again. //

181 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 9:48:39am

Not kidding though. They’re freaking out about ISIS like something fierce. I mean, they’re a major concern, yes, but they’re just way over the top nuts over this. Also, not kidding about the “declare war on Russia” bit either. Also, many are still calling for the genocide of Muslims on TCOT.

182 Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2014 9:50:27am

I’ve been wondering that about Andrew Kaczynski too.

183 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 9:52:22am

re: #179 Charles Johnson

Law Enforcement Officials Admit Officer Wilson Fired at Michael Brown as He Ran Away

Thank you, sir.

184 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 30, 2014 9:52:22am

re: #179 Charles Johnson

Perfect. What happened in my 161? That was an embed from twitter, had the wrong part of the conversation, then became as above?

185 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 30, 2014 9:53:18am
186 jaunte  Aug 30, 2014 9:53:58am

Of course all the compulsive wingnut editors are leaving the “in part” out of the President’s remarks because it doesn’t serve their purpose.

187 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 9:56:20am

re: #182 Charles Johnson

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I’ve been wondering that about Andrew Kaczynski too.

188 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 9:57:08am

re: #185 Rightwingconspirator

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For that matter, (as was said here about 10 days ago) even the Sanford, FL police promptly canvased the area and interviewed after George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin. That the Ferguson police showed no interest in finding out what really happened is beyond telling; In my mind its clear evidence of a cover-up.

189 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 30, 2014 9:57:46am

re: #183 Dark_Falcon

They want to talk character? Lets do that. Ferguson PD character-Shooter hides. Reports don’t happen. Evidence is not gathered. Red Herrings abound. Ban media from airspace. Aim guns at media. Arrest media. Tear gas media. Bean bag cameras. Misuse surplus gear so badly the Pentagon laughs at your troops.

Yeah BigEddie, character matters. At least every character I discuss is adult character. Not kids mistakes.

How do you fit that into a tweet?

190 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 9:57:57am

He does kind of look like Chuck C. Johnson. //

191 ausador  Aug 30, 2014 9:58:06am

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

Anyone have a good link with which to reply to this fellow:

[Embedded content]

The shot which hit Brown in the forearm could have come from the front or the back. They don’t know because arm is so mobile.

If his arm was down at his side as it normally is then the shot came from behind. If he was facing officer he had to have his arm raised or in front of him for the bullet to come from the front.

On the autopsy drawing the mark you see made on the back of Michael Brown’s arm is where the round entered.

Video of press conference on the autopsy here.

192 Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2014 9:59:32am

re: #112 Mattand

LOL, if the border agent were of Mexican or Hispanic descent, the guy’s head would have exploded a la Scanners.

“Brown person… has gun… must kill… has badge… speaks English… probably shouldn’t kill… DOES NOT COMPUTE! ERROR ERROR ERROR”

*pop*

I believe this is an accurate video of the phenomena you are describing.

Youtube Video

193 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 10:00:09am

re: #179 Charles Johnson

re: #191 ausador

Thanks again, guys:

194 Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2014 10:00:42am

re: #191 ausador

The real point though is that Wilson was firing at Brown as he ran away. That means he was firing at Brown’s back, which explains why witnesses say he was “shot in the back” — because that’s how it looked to them.

195 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 10:00:46am

re: #189 Rightwingconspirator

They want to talk character? Lets do that. Ferguson PD character-Shooter hides. Reports Don’t happen. Evidence is not gathered. Red Herrings abound. Ban media from airspace. Aim guns at media. Arrest media. Tear gas media. Bean bag cameras. Misuse surplus gear so badly the Pentagon laughs at your troops.

Yeah BigEddie, character matters. At least every character I discuss is adult character. Not kids mistakes.

How do you fit that into a tweet?

You can’t, that’s one of the major problems with Twitter.

196 blueraven  Aug 30, 2014 10:00:47am

re: #175 Dark_Falcon

Anyone have a good link with which to reply to this fellow:

[Embedded content]

Also, ask him to show you where anyone stated he was “shot in the back”
No one ever said that. They said he seemed to jerk as if he had been hit…could have been the graze wound in the arm, that the medical examiner said could have come from behind.

197 Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2014 10:01:47am

re: #196 blueraven

Also, ask him to show you where anyone stated he was “shot in the back”
No one ever said that. They said he seemed to jerk as if he had been hit…could have been the graze wound in the arm, that the medical examiner said could have come from behind.

Actually Dorian Johnson did say that in the earlier interviews — because that’s what it looked like to him. He saw Wilson firing at Brown’s back as he ran away.

198 wrenchwench  Aug 30, 2014 10:04:21am

re: #189 Rightwingconspirator

They want to talk character? Lets do that. Ferguson PD character-Shooter hides. Reports Don’t happen. Evidence is not gathered. Red Herrings abound. Ban media from airspace. Aim guns at media. Arrest media. Tear gas media. Bean bag cameras. Misuse surplus gear so badly the Pentagon laughs at your troops.

Yeah BigEddie, character matters. At least every character I discuss is adult character. Not kids mistakes.

How do you fit that into a tweet?

For this guy, here’s how I would word it:

**Blocked**

199 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 10:04:59am

Yeah. The world was a lot more stable when there were US supported death squads in South America. Operation Condor, Cold War…

200 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 10:05:24am

re: #197 Charles Johnson

Actually Dorian Johnson did say that in the earlier interviews — because that’s what it looked like to him. He saw Wilson firing at Brown’s back as he ran away.

But to those with an ax to grind, because Johnson didn’t get all the details exactly right he’s “lying”. Sick, just plain sick.

201 Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2014 10:07:45am

re: #198 wrenchwench

For this guy, here’s how I would word it:

**Blocked**

Yeah, it’s always useless to argue with someone who has “MOLON LABE” in their bio. They might as well be wearing a badge that says “I AM A IDIOT.”

202 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 10:10:25am
203 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 10:11:14am

It is afternoon in Illinois.

I don’t mind Illinois Afternoons.

you?

204 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 10:11:35am

205 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 10:11:50am

re: #201 Charles Johnson

Yeah, it’s always useless to argue with someone who has “MOLON LABE” in their bio. They might as well be wearing a badge that says “I AM A IDIOT.”

Quite Concur.

BBL Change of plans.

206 blueraven  Aug 30, 2014 10:11:55am

re: #197 Charles Johnson

Actually Dorian Johnson did say that in the earlier interviews — because that’s what it looked like to him. He saw Wilson firing at Brown’s back as he ran away.

OK thanks, I guess I missed that one.

207 Lancelot Link  Aug 30, 2014 10:11:59am

re: #201 Charles Johnson

I can never see that phrase without reading it as “MORON LABEL”.

208 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 30, 2014 10:12:35am
209 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 10:12:37am

THIS

210 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 10:16:08am

I’m hungry.

211 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 10:17:10am

re: #182 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

I’ve been wondering that about Andrew Kaczynski too.

I’D much rather live in this world, now that in the past. The past was really, REALLY nasty.

horse shit it in the streets, lack of reliable clean water, bread with weevils in it. No birth control, No flea prevention for pets. …

I’d really hate to have to depend on a Fire Brigade I’d paid a subscription to.

I could go on and on.

212 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 10:19:11am

re: #210 Gus

I’m hungry.

Here

Enjoy! It’s on me.

:0

213 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 10:19:31am

re: #208 Rightwingconspirator

[Embedded content]

214 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 30, 2014 10:19:39am

re: #201 Charles Johnson

Probably my last tweet at the guy-

215 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 10:19:53am

re: #207 Lancelot Link

I can never see that phrase without reading it as “MORON LABEL”.

It was a great line —really.

Then the Whackos starting using it—and the don’t even pronounce it correctly.

216 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 10:21:04am

re: #212 FemNaziBitch

Here

Enjoy! It’s on me.

:0

Warming up a mini-pizza in the nuclear oven.

217 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 10:21:14am

Honestly, whatever you think of the death of Michael Brown, to to post a tweet regarding that event that contains ‘Lol’ shows a cavalierness about his death that is appalling.

218 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 10:21:19am

ASSHOLE OF THE DAY:

219 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 10:21:49am

re: #216 Gus

Warming up a mini-pizza in the nuclear oven.

I love those pizza minis/

220 Gus  Aug 30, 2014 10:22:17am

re: #219 FemNaziBitch

I love those pizza minis/

Red Baron.

221 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 10:23:37am

re: #215 FemNaziBitch

It was a great line —really.

Then the Whackos starting using it—and the don’t even pronounce it correctly.

Indeed. As it was used by Leonidas at Thermopylae it was an inspiring call of defiance, a proving refusal to yield despite harrowing odds. But the nutbars have now turned it into a badge of DERPitude.

222 Eventual Carrion  Aug 30, 2014 10:24:29am

re: #72 FemNaziBitch

There is bait for beer?

What pound line do you use for it?

Just 12 oz

223 Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2014 10:24:37am

re: #128 wrenchwench

Oh, look what else they did.

[Embedded content]

Video

/

That was wonderful.

224 Eventual Carrion  Aug 30, 2014 10:27:26am

re: #85 sattv4u2

As much as your help would have been appreciated, you DO know that you’re 236 years late to the battle, right??!!!
/

Probably got caught in traffic.

225 Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2014 10:27:28am

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

Of course they’re calling mostly for the use of armed force, because armed force is the only thing that can destroy ISIS. The “Islamic State” does not have some territorial grievance we can rectify; Its grievance is that the United States exists. It murders men after they surrender as a matter of routine, rapes women and forces them to convert to Salafism, it loots towns bare and then rigs them with explosives. Such an organization cannot be reasoned with, it must be eliminated by main force.

ISIS Delenda Est.

Seriously? You’re making ISIS the Carthage to America’s Rome?

Sorry, Dark. Hyperbole has no place in strategic planning. ISIS is horrible but it’s not an existential threat to America or the West.

226 dog philosopher  Aug 30, 2014 10:27:34am

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

We also didn’t finish the job. Leaving Saddam Hussein in power was a consensus decision, but IMO it was the wrong decision.

life for iraqis wasn’t exactly a picnic under muderous saddam, but you couldn’t say the last eleven years has been any better for them. maybe someday they’ll reap the benefits of freedom but so far they bleed and die at least as much as before

and what are our benefits at this point in time? BP getting profits from oil processing again? more work for contactors in the new war against ISIS?

tell me, how would things have been worse if we had let the iraqis solve their own problems instead of “helping” them?

227 wrenchwench  Aug 30, 2014 10:28:14am

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

Honestly, whatever you think of the death of Michael Brown, to to post a tweet regarding that event that contains ‘Lol’ shows a cavalierness about his death that is appalling.

Dark, there are a lot of people out there who really are cavalier about the deaths of black people. Or beyond cavalier. They celebrate the deaths of fellow humans. This is where racism leads.

228 b_sharp  Aug 30, 2014 10:28:22am

re: #189 Rightwingconspirator

They want to talk character? Lets do that. Ferguson PD character-Shooter hides. Reports don’t happen. Evidence is not gathered. Red Herrings abound. Ban media from airspace. Aim guns at media. Arrest media. Tear gas media. Bean bag cameras. Misuse surplus gear so badly the Pentagon laughs at your troops.

Yeah BigEddie, character matters. At least every character I discuss is adult character. Not kids mistakes.

How do you fit that into a tweet?

Character has no bearing. The actions of Brown and Wilson do.

The only place character may have an impact is in determining if this was a hate crime and that would be of Wilson, not Brown.

229 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 10:29:04am

re: #227 wrenchwench

Dark, there are a lot of people out there who really are cavalier about the deaths of black people. Or beyond cavalier. They celebrate the deaths of fellow humans. This is where racism leads.

When Saddam was executed.

People were gleeful.

230 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 30, 2014 10:29:12am

re: #221 Dark_Falcon

Indeed. As it was used by Leonidas at Thermopylae it was an inspiring call of defiance, a proving refusal to yield despite harrowing odds. But the nutbars have now turned it into a badge of DERPitude.

Meh. Tyrant (for real) said what? Pity the Persians didn’t wipe out Sparta before being sent packing by the decent peoples of Greece.

231 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 10:29:45am

re: #220 Gus

Red Baron.

Needs added garlic.

232 wrenchwench  Aug 30, 2014 10:31:40am

re: #229 FemNaziBitch

When Saddam was executed.

People were gleeful.

That’s different. Understandable. He was a tyrant. I’m talking about celebrating the deaths of little kids seeking asylum here, that kind of thing. And Mike Brown.

233 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 10:34:06am

re: #220 Gus

Red Baron.

Though he never actually had a mustache in real life. But here I go again, talking about historical facts and not popular legends.

Most people wouldn’t buy something labeled Red Baron if they knew who Manfred von Richthofen really was. He was a crack shot (he was seriously into hunting and in learning to hunt he was taught how to shoot) who developed into an excellent pilot as well. However, he was also a ruthless man who focused on attacking enemy planes he could catch unaware and who felt little to any regret about the men he’d killed.

Ultimately, Richthofen was most influential as a leader, devising new tactics to adapt to the changing balance of the air war on the Western Front. He also played a key role in developing the concept of “flying circuses” of fighters that could be moved rapidly from one part of the front to another on railroad freight trucks derived from those used by traveling circuses.

234 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 10:35:04am

re: #232 wrenchwench

That’s different. Understandable. He was a tyrant. I’m talking about celebrating the deaths of little kids seeking asylum here, that kind of thing. And Mike Brown.

I don’t think so. A human death is a human death.

People in other countries were celebrating after 9/11. We didn’t appreciate that too much.

Celebrating Justice —Saddam’s capture and trial is one thing. Celebrating his actual death is another.

People aren’t cockroaches —a feeling satisfaction at their extermination is not a good thing.

235 Dark_Falcon  Aug 30, 2014 10:35:31am

re: #230 William Barnett-Lewis

Meh. Tyrant (for real) said what? Pity the Persians didn’t wipe out Sparta before being sent packing by the decent peoples of Greece.

They would have had a hard time organizing without Spartan (and Athenian) leadership.

BBL for real.

236 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 10:35:46am

re: #233 Dark_Falcon

Though he never actually had a mustache in real life. But here I go again, talking about historical facts and not popular legends.

Most people wouldn’t buy something labeled Red Baron if they knew who Manfred von Richthofen really was. He was a crack shot (he was seriously into hunting and in learning to hunt he was taught how to shoot) who developed into an excellent pilot as well. However, he was also a ruthless man who focused on attacking enemy planes he could catch unaware and who felt little to any regret about the men he’d killed.

Ultimately, Richthofen was most influential as a leader, devising new tactics to adapt to the changing balance of the air war on the Western Front. He also played a key role in developing the concept of “flying circuses” of fighters that could be moved rapidly from one part of the front to another on railroad freight trucks derived from those used by traveling circuses.

Snoopy pretended to be the Red Baron —no?

237 FemNaziBitch  Aug 30, 2014 10:37:18am

bbl

238 wrenchwench  Aug 30, 2014 10:38:08am

re: #234 FemNaziBitch

I don’t think so. A human death is a human death.

People in other countries were celebrating after 9/11. We didn’t appreciate that too much.

Celebrating Justice —Saddam’s capture and trial is one thing. Celebrating his actual death is another.

People aren’t cockroaches —a feeling satisfaction at their extermination is not a good thing.

I feel less bad about Saddam’s death than I do about Mike Brown’s death. I see nothing wrong with Saddam’s victims celebrating his end.

It is unrealistic to refrain from drawing distinctions. I think it would be wrong to say all deaths are equally tragic.

239 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 30, 2014 10:38:39am

re: #236 FemNaziBitch

No, he pretended to fight the Red Baron of legend.

240 Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2014 10:39:44am

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

We also didn’t finish the job. Leaving Saddam Hussein in power was a consensus decision, but IMO it was the wrong decision.

If you read George H. W. Bush’s book you’d have read all the reasons he decided not to do that.

Mostly because it went past the UN Security Council authorization regarding the removal of Iraqi troops from Kuwait. People don’t realize it but when Bush Senior was talking about a ‘New World Order’ he was talking about a world ruled by law as personified in the UN.

He also listed the problem that an invasion would cause the U.S.…which was exactly what happened when his idiot son invaded.

Bush family meals must be full of awkward silences.

241 Eventual Carrion  Aug 30, 2014 10:46:10am

re: #116 ObserverArt

Morning all! Hope it’s not too early to light up some good tunes.

Seeing this post and keeping in mind this is a music thread…I thought of this song for Kragar’s response to the California GOP request.

Never is a long time…Glass Harp 1972 in a TV studio…live.

And it allows me to remember one of my favorite Ohio bands. Glass Harp played our high school in ‘72, and by the looks of the guys, I’m thinking it was right around the same time this video was made.

And for music buffs…check out Phil Keaggy. Even Jimi was impressed with Phil’s wonderful chops. Glass Harp recorded at Electric Ladyland studios.

[Embedded content]

Cool. Some friends and I caught them in ‘72 or ‘73 at Thiel college. We were youngin’s out for a good night of music. Our music teacher took us (though I lived close enough I could have rode my bike). Saw them in the concert center my grandpa did the electrical work in while he was doing freelance electric work.

Used to go to the Idora Park Ballroom and catch shows there too. Saw Maynard Ferguson about 5 times there. Ahhh the days of good, affordable shows.

242 Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2014 10:49:53am

re: #233 Dark_Falcon

Though he never actually had a mustache in real life. But here I go again, talking about historical facts and not popular legends.

Most people wouldn’t buy something labeled Red Baron if they knew who Manfred von Richthofen really was. He was a crack shot (he was seriously into hunting and in learning to hunt he was taught how to shoot) who developed into an excellent pilot as well. However, he was also a ruthless man who focused on attacking enemy planes he could catch unaware and who felt little to any regret about the men he’d killed.

Ultimately, Richthofen was most influential as a leader, devising new tactics to adapt to the changing balance of the air war on the Western Front. He also played a key role in developing the concept of “flying circuses” of fighters that could be moved rapidly from one part of the front to another on railroad freight trucks derived from those used by traveling circuses.

I’d say Boelke was more influential than Richtofen. He’s the man who, in my opinion, formed air combat into an actual military tool than just a bunch of dilettantes flying mostly for fun and with little purpose.

243 Maddies Mom  Aug 30, 2014 11:06:45am

re: #62 FemNaziBitch

It’s morning in Illinois.

I hate Illinois Mornings.

you?

I’min Illinois…. this morning’s beverage of choice BLOODY MARY because hangover…

244 dholmes32  Aug 30, 2014 11:20:52am

re: #76 Higgs Boson’s Mate

It’s obvious that our failure to send US troops into Mexico since 1916 has caused them to disrespect our authoritah.

Actually, the one battle of World War I on American soil was fought in Nogales, Arizona/Nogales, Mexico on August 27, 1918. It’s called the battle of Ambos (Both) Nogales. The battle was fought between US soliders and Mexican Carrancistas (this was during the Mexican Civil War) and their German advisors. The result of the battle was the placement of a chain-link fence along International Boulevard, which (unfenced) had marked the border between the two countries.

Why do I know this? Because I used it for trivia the other day on our daily technology update call at work.

245 sagehen  Aug 30, 2014 12:26:11pm

re: #211 FemNaziBitch

I’D much rather live in this world, now that in the past. The past was really, REALLY nasty.

horse shit it in the streets, lack of reliable clean water, bread with weevils in it. No birth control, No flea prevention for pets. …

I’d really hate to have to depend on a Fire Brigade I’d paid a subscription to.

I could go on and on.

If you had to live 700 years ago, you’d rather be Aztec or Maya than any kind of European. They had indoor plumbing (hot and cold), cocaine, tequila, chocolate and popcorn. (the ripping-your-still-beating-heart-from-your-chest thing didn’t happen to Aztecs, that’s something they did to POWs from neighboring nations).


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