BMW Is the Latest Large Company to Pull Advertising From Breitbart “News”

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As more and more major advertisers realize that Breitbart “News” is a far right hate site, and it damages their brands to advertise there, the latest company to join the exodus from Breitbart is renowned automobile manufacturer BMW.

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scottslemmons  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:33:38pm

So a bunch of unemployed basement-dwelling neo-Nazis are gonna quit buying so many Beemers now, right?

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Skip Intro  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:36:25pm

re: #1 scottslemmons

Maybe BMW was test marketing their new model 88 there.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:37:01pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:37:40pm

re: #1 scottslemmons

So a bunch of unemployed basement-dwelling neo-Nazis are gonna quit buying so many Beemers now, right?

Don’t forget that all of these unemployed toothless hillbillies are certain that Trump is going to usher in the era when they’ll be rich just like him.

The right wing is absolutely freaking out about this. It hits them right in their fantasy lives.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:38:13pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:38:27pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh hell, I should have known that hashtag would be filled with garbage.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:38:32pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Don’t forget that all of these unemployed toothless hillbillies are certain that Trump is going to usher in the era when they’ll be rich just like him.

The right wing is absolutely freaking about this. It hits them right in their fantasy lives.

I never understood that particular delusion. The right wing makes such a big deal about hard work and the American dream, but yet they work so hard just to try to exploit supposed shortcuts to wealth, like electing a dumbass who promises them unicorns.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:38:54pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:41:26pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:41:59pm

Screenshot Breitbart, be polite & ask, should you continue to advertise here.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:44:07pm

Ah there’s a fucking graphic

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EPR-radar  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:44:35pm

re: #7 thedopefishlives

I never understood that particular delusion. The right wing makes such a big deal about hard work and the American dream, but yet they work so hard just to try to exploit supposed shortcuts to wealth, like electing a dumbass who promises them unicorns.

Hard work and the American dream will not lead to fabulous wealth in at least 99.999% of the cases.

The rational policy response is to try to alleviate wealth and income inequality because who needs this shit where a few dozen rich guys own half the country.

The irrational policy response is to sell pipe dreams of fabulous wealth to impressionable rubes.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:46:37pm

re: #12 EPR-radar

Hard work and the American dream will not lead to fabulous wealth in at least 99.999% of the cases.

The rational policy response is to try to alleviate wealth and income inequality because who needs this shit where a few dozen rich guys own half the country.

The irrational policy response is to sell pipe dreams of fabulous wealth to impressionable rubes.

Hard work and the American dream will let you live comfortably in most cases. The “rags to riches” stories vastly over-sold the outcome of a good work ethic.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:46:39pm

re: #12 EPR-radar

Hard work and the American dream will not lead to fabulous wealth in at least 99.999% of the cases.

The rational policy response is to try to alleviate wealth and income inequality because who needs this shit where a few dozen rich guys own half the country.

The irrational policy response is to sell pipe dreams of fabulous wealth to impressionable rubes.

That’s the rational policy if you are one of the few dozen people who own half the country. You can always hire half your enemies to kill off the other half if you have enough money.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:48:30pm

re: #5 Dave In Austin

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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:49:06pm

re: #15 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

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Just wait until they hear that Hitler supported Volkswagen.

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Interesting Times  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:49:39pm

re: #14 Anymouse

That’s the rational policy if you are one of the few dozen people who own half the country. You can always hire half your enemies to kill off the other half if you have enough money.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:49:57pm

Censorship from the Bolshevik Motor Works! They worked for Hitler and they’re run by Zionist banksters and they’re in cahoots with Hillary and Soros! Dude on the grassy knoll got away on a BMW and they back engineered from UFOs and they spread chemtrails from their corporate Gulfstream and and, ARRRGHH, I’M MELTING!

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EPR-radar  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:51:04pm

re: #13 thedopefishlives

Hard work and the American dream will let you live comfortably in most cases. The “rags to riches” stories vastly over-sold the outcome of a good work ethic.

It’s amazing how easily an aristocracy is accepted in the US, just because it isn’t fixed absolutely by noble blood. Instead it is based on inherited wealth. Occasional instances of upward class mobility do not affect the overall picture of the US as a plutocracy.

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Skip Intro  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:51:29pm

re: #16 thedopefishlives

But he only rode in Mercedes.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:52:26pm

Ted Cruz Likes It When Cheese Dip Slimes Down His Nipples

(Goes to Wonkette, where they also have an article today celebrating they got put on Alex Jones’s “fake news” list.)

Yes, they have a video over there of Ted Cruz noting queso should slime down your shirt if you’re eating it correctly. Ewewew.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:54:02pm

re: #20 Skip Intro

But he only rode in Mercedes.

Well, duh. Volkswagens were for common folk. It would not do for der Fuhrer to be seen in such an automobile.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:54:12pm

re: #21 Anymouse

Ted Cruz Likes It When Cheese Dip Slimes Down His Nipples

(Goes to Wonkette, where they also have an article today celebrating they got put on Alex Jones’s “fake news” list.)

Yes, they have a video over there of Ted Cruz noting queso should slime down your shirt if you’re eating it correctly. Ewewew.

Just reading that is going to give me nightmares

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:54:35pm

most of us are praying to god that trump doesn’t fuck up because we have credit card debt that will ruin us. we’ll pay it off, just around the corner when we get paid a little more. but this is how we live in the middle class. there is a class below us that can’t even get a card. but we don’t want to know about them.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:55:18pm

re: #23 Dave In Austin

Just reading that is going to give me nightmares

Don’t watch their video of him talking about it then. You might wish Senator Cruz was just doing something normal like shutting down the government.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:55:25pm
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retired cynic  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:56:58pm

re: #23 Dave In Austin

Just reading that is going to give me nightmares

That probably gives Heidi C nightmares.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:56:58pm

re: #24 Barefoot Grin

most of us are praying to god that trump doesn’t fuck up because we have credit card debt that will ruin us. we’ll pay it off, just around the corner when we get paid a little more. but this is how we live in the middle class. there is a class below us that can’t even get a card. but we don’t want to know about them.

I can’t get a card. Eleven years of homelessness tends to foul up your creditworthiness for life, even if you never defaulted on a single payment to anyone.

Everything I do is cash. My wife has a credit card, and she spoke to her card company about putting me on it. They told her they would not do it.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:59:37pm

The Guardian:
[Breitbart] Boycott comes as rightwing website plans to launch new services in France and Germany in time for pivotal 2017 elections

“…Other German companies joining the boycott include Deutsche Telekom, which said it “absolutely does not tolerate discriminatory actions or statements” and its ads had not been placed intentionally on Breitbart.

The restaurant chain Vapiano also told AP Breitbart was not compatible with its values of “openness and tolerance” and it would take steps to ensure its ads no longer appeared on the site.
theguardian.com

“fachosphère”

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 8, 2016 • 7:59:47pm

re: #28 Anymouse

I can’t get a card. Eleven years of homelessness tends to foul up your creditworthiness for life, even if you never defaulted on a single payment to anyone.

Everything I do is cash. My wife has a credit card, and she spoke to her card company about putting me on it. They told her they would not do it.

When I finally get paid off, I am going to cash where I can.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:00:18pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:00:42pm

re: #28 Anymouse

I can’t get a card. Eleven years of homelessness tends to foul up your creditworthiness for life, even if you never defaulted on a single payment to anyone.

Everything I do is cash. My wife has a credit card, and she spoke to her card company about putting me on it. They told her they would not do it.

Mrs. Fish was astonished to learn that she had no credit history when we applied for our home loan - she wanted to be listed on the title, but they wouldn’t list her because she had no credit. It was astonishing to her because she had had a loan for her first car when she was a teenager, but by the time we bought the house, it had fallen off her credit report. So I got her a small card that she uses for groceries and I keep it paid off every month, and that suits us just fine for the intended purpose.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:04:37pm
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jaunte  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:05:04pm

And now, BMW.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:05:07pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

Ah there’s a fucking graphic

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I did AML/CIP remediation work for a hayuuuuuge bank with a name that rhymes with “Sells Cargo” a little while back. That looks completely normal for a post-Millenium structured finance arrangement: Nested LLCs and Incs, probably registered at a mix of strip-mall offices in Delaware and various Caribbean paper-shuffling houses.

There will be legitimate lease paperwork on file somewhere, hundreds of pages of it, but I’m pretty sure absolutely none of it was handled or looked at by Lord Dump himself.

Point of interest, these structured-finance arrangements for all the GREAT DEALS are a fucking bonanza for money launderers. I’d be interested to see the results of a dedicated forensic financial investigation to find out just how many Russian car dealership magnates are investing in Comrade Trump. I bet he’s fenced a lot of lots with $10,000 fenceposts from Ural mountain industries…

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Citizen K  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:05:39pm

Reminder: Trump’s been attacking private citizens for a long time, and those attacks have long consequences.

For Batchelder, who studies history and gender studies at Saint Anselm College in Manchester, N.H, the abuse continues more than a year later. Five days before the election, she received a Facebook message that read: “Wishing I could f—-ing punch you in the face. id then proceed to stomp your head on the curb and urinate in your bloodied mouth and i know where you live, so watch your f—-ing back punk.”

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:05:54pm

LOL

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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:05:57pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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Great job, Charles, your poking at Drumpf has awakened the bear. I assume you have a decent firewall that is laughing at their attempts to break in?

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prairiefire  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:06:38pm

I don’t think I know what a small card is!

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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:07:37pm

re: #39 prairiefire

I don’t think I know what a small card is!

Most introductory cards start with an extremely low credit limit - $200, $500 or so. It goes up over time, as your credit rating is proven. I’ve held my current credit cards - both of them - for over 10 years each, and their available lines of credit have grown accordingly.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:08:02pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:08:15pm

re: #38 thedopefishlives

Great job, Charles, your poking at Drumpf has awakened the bear. I assume you have a decent firewall that is laughing at their attempts to break in?

More than a firewall, we have some sophisticated anti-hacking and anti-DDoS software on our servers. I get notices when something unusual happens, which is why I mentioned this.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:09:52pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

More than a firewall, we have some sophisticated anti-hacking and anti-DDoS software on our servers. I get notices when something unusual happens, which is why I mentioned this.

Very nice. Not something that’s within my realm of expertise - I’ve set up all kinds of logging, metrics, and notifications for system performance on production environments, but that’s for business systems, which have a very different use case. Still, it’s cool to watch the graphs on days when my clients roll out our new applications to new market segments.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:10:24pm

re: #36 Citizen K

Reminder: Trump’s been attacking private citizens for a long time, and those attacks have long consequences.

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Thanks. I know some St. A alums who will be appalled if they aren’t already.

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Citizen K  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:10:50pm
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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:12:01pm

re: #32 thedopefishlives

Mrs. Fish was astonished to learn that she had no credit history when we applied for our home loan - she wanted to be listed on the title, but they wouldn’t list her because she had no credit. It was astonishing to her because she had had a loan for her first car when she was a teenager, but by the time we bought the house, it had fallen off her credit report. So I got her a small card that she uses for groceries and I keep it paid off every month, and that suits us just fine for the intended purpose.

I was listed on both the titles of our car and house, but that was because we paid cash for both.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:12:35pm
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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:13:07pm

re: #35 Pawn of the Oppressor

I did AML/CIP remediation work for a hayuuuuuge bank with a name that rhymes with “Sells Cargo” a little while back. That looks completely normal for a post-Millenium structured finance arrangement: Nested LLCs and Incs, probably registered at a mix of strip-mall offices in Delaware and various Caribbean paper-shuffling houses.

There will be legitimate lease paperwork on file somewhere, hundreds of pages of it, but I’m pretty sure absolutely none of it was handled or looked at by Lord Dump himself.

Point of interest, these structured-finance arrangements for all the GREAT DEALS are a fucking bonanza for money launderers. I’d be interested to see the results of a dedicated forensic financial investigation to find out just how many Russian car dealership magnates are investing in Comrade Trump. I bet he’s fenced a lot of lots with $10,000 fenceposts from Ural mountain industries…

If you’ve ever watched any of the footage of him testifying during depositions, you’d be right in your assumption that he hasn’t got a clue what’s in any of his leases or agreements. (And, as Samantha Bee has pointed out, his basic reading capabilities are very much in question.)

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:15:36pm

@slpng_giants confirmed list of advertisers who have blocked Breitbart from their media plan:
docs.google.com

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:15:41pm

“Dark Shadows” is starting on Syfy. (We don’t have television at home. This hotel stuff is kewl.)

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Joe Bacon  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:17:54pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Don’t forget that all of these unemployed toothless hillbillies are certain that Trump is going to usher in the era when they’ll be rich just like him.

The right wing is absolutely freaking out about this. It hits them right in their fantasy lives.

Charles, they live under the delusion that they will win the next Powerball or Mega Millions jackpot and live on Easy Street for the rest of their lives.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:19:05pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:19:55pm

re: #51 Joe Bacon

Charles, they live under the delusion that they will win the next Powerball or Mega Millions jackpot and live on Easy Street for the rest of their lives.

One thing I love my folks for: Even though they believed gambling was Teh Evil (along with a thousand other things), at least my dad taught me enough statistics to know that it wasn’t worth banking on winning the lottery to provide for my desires.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:20:06pm

I’m heartened to see this level of reaction on the Sleeping Giants timeline. Not just BMW but companies all over. Keep up the good work!

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:20:43pm

re: #51 Joe Bacon

Charles, they live under the delusion that they will win the next Powerball or Mega Millions jackpot and live on Easy Street for the rest of their lives.

That’s my plan. Hopefully before they take my VA disability away from me.

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:25:53pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

It is my belief that a non-trivial portion, perhaps even the majority portion, of Trump’s support is based on religion.

Or more precisely, about the fear of losing religion.

If my Facebook wall is any indication, there is a strong correlation between the Christian-nationalists and Trump support.

To them, Trump is the restoration of the true America.

It’s an absurd belief, but then again, their worldview is based on a series of absurd beliefs.

It is ironic that Trump-as-strongman stands in for God-as-father, but given the strong relationship between patriarchy and theocracy (see also the Russian Orthodox church) we ought not be surprised.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:26:37pm

re: #56 freetoken

The funny thing is that it’s not Drumpf, per se, that is the Christ-figure. It’s that he projects the image of a strong Republican male.

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makeitstop  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:27:44pm

Man, this site flies on my Kindle now. Why didn’t I subscribe years ago?

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makeitstop  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:29:35pm

re: #51 Joe Bacon

Charles, they live under the delusion that they will win the next Powerball or Mega Millions jackpot and live on Easy Street for the rest of their lives.

Like the man says - you’ve got a better chance of them giving you the money by accident.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:30:06pm

re: #58 makeitstop

I know what you mean. I just managed to subscribe last week. Is nice!

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:30:27pm

re: #36 Citizen K

Reminder: Trump’s been attacking private citizens for a long time, and those attacks have long consequences.

And doing it without thinking that one of their victims could snap and do something horrible as retribution.

It’s a dangerous game they play.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:30:49pm

And again, I am full. No mas. No more tonight.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:31:20pm

re: #57 thedopefishlives

The funny thing is that it’s not Drumpf, per se, that is the Christ-figure. It’s that he projects the image of a strong Republican male.

Which proves that the Evangelical Christians are morally bankrupt. This is their last hurrah.

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electrotek  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:34:41pm

re: #5 Dave In Austin

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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:34:44pm

re: #63 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Which proves that the Evangelical Christians are morally bankrupt. This is their last hurrah.

I’m not going to disagree with you completely, but not all Evangelicals are completely off the tracks. The problem is that those who hold to rational thought, like myself, are the extremely non-vocal minority - and rightly so, when speaking up will get us castigated within our community.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:35:04pm

re: #63 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Which proves that the Evangelical Christians are morally bankrupt. This is their last hurrah.

For a last hurrah, since Ronald Reagan smuggled them in they’ve been doing pretty well with the Republican Party.

Now they control all three branches of the government. It might be the last hurrah for anyone who is not a Christian (and throw in Catholics for good measure).

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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:35:26pm

re: #64 electrotek

Let ‘em boycott Ford, I’m a GM man from way back.////

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:39:42pm

I want to update my Boeing/Trump/Nikki Haley/South Carolina union-busting theory from earlier tonight.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Another bit of info to add—one more South Carolinian who has met with Trump is Catherine Templeton (original suspicion was he was considering her for Sec. of Labor)

Who is this person, you ask? She is supposedly running for governor here in 2018—her previous experience was a Nikki Haley appointee (who refused to move to Columbia—so Trump-like). Oh, and she is a BIG-TIME ANTI-UNION LAWYER.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:40:38pm

re: #63 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Which proves that the Evangelical Christians are morally bankrupt. This is their last hurrah.

The God of the Religious Right is Ayn Rand.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:41:14pm

Again, speaking in purely hypothetical terms, but the question probably should be asked.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:41:29pm

re: #69 Joe Bacon

The God of the Religious Right is Ayn Rand.

Whatever his name is, the god of the Religious Right is completely fucked up. Not a God I would want to follow, for sure.

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Resistance Is Not Futile  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:42:58pm

I just heard the editor of the New York Times, in an interview, call Donald Trump “a compelling candidate.”

That is all (except for the projectile vomiting).

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:46:13pm

re: #72 We’re Way Beyond Snark

the projectile vomiting

Well, there are a variety of ways to be “compelling.”

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whitebeach  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:47:15pm

re: #56 freetoken

It is my belief that a non-trivial portion, perhaps even the majority portion, of Trump’s support is based on religion.

Or more precisely, about the fear of losing religion.

If my Facebook wall is any indication, there is a strong correlation between the Christian-nationalists and Trump support.

That’s probably a fairly accurate perception, but IMHO it’s accurate only insofar as there is also a strong correlation between Christian nationalism and racism, which I regard as being by far the strongest factor in Trump’s support in most of the states that went for him.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:48:08pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:49:06pm

re: #72 We’re Way Beyond Snark

I just heard the editor of the New York Times, in an interview, call Donald Trump “a compelling candidate.”

That is all (except for the projectile vomiting).

Compelling people to commit suicide, perhaps.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:49:07pm

re: #71 thedopefishlives

Whatever his name is, the god of the Religious Right is completely fucked up. Not a God I would want to follow, for sure.

Part of that stems from the different branches of Protestant churches that either broke from the Catholic Church, the Lutheran Church, or the Church of England. Unlike those three churches, they mostly have no central body guiding them. Thus, many of them have drifted into heavily distorted or badly warped iterations of Christianity (punctuated by Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and the like).

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thedopefishlives  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:50:43pm

re: #77 Myron Falwell (no relation)

100% agreed. And while I do subscribe to such a belief, I do think that a lack of canonistic oversight has contributed to the rise of mini-Hitlers within the Protestant denominations, pastors of standing and influence whose theology is questionable at best and whose political interference is execrable at worst.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:51:01pm

re: #72 We’re Way Beyond Snark

I just heard the editor of the New York Times, in an interview, call Donald Trump “a compelling candidate.”

That is all (except for the projectile vomiting).

I would not want to be anywhere near Charles Blow when those ignorant statements are uttered.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:53:10pm

re: #77 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Part of that stems from the different branches of Protestant churches that either broke from the Catholic Church, the Lutheran Church, or the Church of England. Unlike those three churches, they mostly have no central body guiding them. Thus, many of them have drifted into heavily distorted or badly warped iterations of Christianity (punctuated by Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and the like).

And yet they argue that folk like Pope Francis are the people warping Christianity.

A great number of folk are on board with Alex Jones’s claim that Hillary Clinton (a Methodist) is possessed by the devil.

All this swinging around of “my interpretation of this holy book is not only better than your interpretation, but it means you are an evil heretic” gives me a headache. That’s even before you throw in other mutually-exclusive religions, none of which have evidence.

One thing I’ve noticed is that when any religious group is weak, it cries for protection, both from the government and other religions. (See the Danbury Baptists when the Bill of Rights was being formed.)

When a religion becomes powerful, it wants perfection. All others must comply or die.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2016 • 8:53:53pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:00:40pm

Hey Charles, next time you tell some troll to go fuck themselves on Twitter, you can supply a helpful short video for them!

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:16:02pm

Funny how some people can’t believe there’s any other motivation than money.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:17:09pm

Cernovich needs to start complaining to some right wing billionaires about his pay.

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:23:06pm

The forces of barbarism have another notch on the bedpost.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:23:21pm

re: #84 jaunte

Cernovich needs to start complaining to some right wing billionaires about his pay.

How did George Soros get to be the conservative’s idea of what the Bavarian Illuminati should be?

Where’s my Sorosbux? I was promised Sorosbux if I carried out his evil plans? There must have been some sort of fix in my village elections that a liberal atheist could be elected! How is that possible without the evil George Soros and ACORN back from the dead?

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EmmaAnne  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:23:31pm

re: #83 jaunte

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Funny how some people can’t believe there’s any other motivation than money.

Also, no one is mad that Cernovich wants to boycott Star Wars. We think it is hilarious.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:24:34pm
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jaunte  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:24:44pm

re: #86 Anymouse

Cernovich and people like him can’t conceive of anyone doing something because they think it’s the right thing to do. There has to be a shadowy funder.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:25:18pm

re: #87 EmmaAnne

Also, no one is mad that Cernovich wants to boycott Star Wars. We think it is hilarious.

Yeah mad? More like amused that Mikey is a baby and boycotting something more popular than ever.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:25:29pm

What motivation could there be except money?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:26:18pm

Soros, Alinsky, these guys need scapegoats to act like the left can’t think for ourselves.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:26:34pm

re: #87 EmmaAnne

Yeah, I think he seriously doesn’t know the difference between “mad at” and “laughing at.”

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:27:16pm

Carve your rights into your arm
So they won’t get taken away
Trying in vain to figure it out
Always thinking this is a waste
Build it up high
The further to fall
Right down on you
Wasting away
Suffer more, suffer still
Found release locked away
No values anymore?
Nowhere to turn, wasted away

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:27:24pm

re: #93 Jebediah, RBG

Yeah, I think he seriously doesn’t know the difference between “mad at” and “laughing at.”

Which is what is most of the time with whiny MRAs like him who bitch about women yet depend on them.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:27:45pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

Soros, Alinsky, these guys need scapegoats to act like the left can’t think for ourselves.

Projection, always.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:28:30pm

I don’t even like Star Wars but Cernovich’s boycott is so stupid and juvenile.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:29:24pm

Someone please give Cernovich his blankie and pacifier. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:29:33pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Like the Breitbart War On Pop-Tarts.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:29:40pm

re: #96 Anymouse

Projection, always.

Yep I knew a wingnut who insisted the left was so hateful to Ann Coulter and I was so amused since Coulter is one of the most hateful people you’ll encounter.

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:29:54pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Yeah mad? More like amused that Mikey is a baby and boycotting something more popular than ever.

Well, they did that boycott Hamilton thing so successfully—it was only sold out through next November when they started and will now probably run forever.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:31:01pm

re: #99 jaunte

Like the Breitbart War On Pop-Tarts.

Or most right wing boycotts really. These people are idiots. They don’t anger me. They amuse me because they think they’re so manly but they’re so childish.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:31:38pm

re: #87 EmmaAnne

Also, no one is mad that Cernovich wants to boycott Star Wars. We think it is hilarious.

As the movie shatters box office records for a December release, he’ll claim success in the “boycott.” Because why not.

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Jayleia  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:31:46pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

And all of those big names have to sound like Teh Juice names rather than Real ‘Murican names…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:32:57pm

re: #101 BeachDem

Well, they did that boycott Hamilton thing so successfully—it was only sold out through next November when they started and will now probably run forever.

Yep and btw I read something about Tulsi Gabbard that affirms your spidey sense about her, she was saying We need more career military people in cabinet roles. She just doesn’t seem to respect the idea of civilian control of government. Scary.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:33:18pm

re: #104 Jayleia

And all of those big names have to sound like Teh Juice names rather than Real ‘Murican names…

Surely a coincidence right?//

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Jayleia  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:35:53pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Of course its just a coincidence and…

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:38:35pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Yep and btw I read something about Tulsi Gabbard that affirms your spidey sense about her, she was saying We need more career military people in cabinet roles. She just doesn’t seem to respect the idea of civilian control of government. Scary.

I don’t know about Rep. Gabbard, but as a veteran the idea of recruiting so many military and former military into the civilian government executive positions bothers me.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:42:02pm

re: #108 Anymouse

I don’t know about Rep. Gabbard, but as a veteran the idea of recruiting so many military and former military into the civilian government executive positions bothers me.

Yeah it’s a legit worry. Trump has three generals already including two as cabinet members. He just seems to worship generals.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:42:55pm

Night night tho. Today was a long but productive work day but I am tired.

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SteveMcG RN  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:42:58pm

Trump HAS to recruit generals. He has already staked his identity on dissing most mainstream Republicans. So for his biggest appointments he has to go outside and that leaves either the business world or the military world.

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Jayleia  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:43:09pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I thought he knew more than the generals?

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:47:40pm

re: #111 SteveMcG RN

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John_Manyjars  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:49:37pm

re: #5 Dave In Austin

Unlike today’s ‘right’ however, BMW has moved on from supporting Nazis…

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:54:43pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s a legit worry. Trump has three generals already including two as cabinet members. He just seems to worship generals.

That is not a good sign for a democratic republic. Other nations have worshipped the military in the past to no good end.

Our own people seem to be moving in that direction. I try to answer those who give me the “thank you for your service” line with “thank you for letting me serve the country.”

I want the military to be a servant of the nation, not the other way round.

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:56:21pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Yep and btw I read something about Tulsi Gabbard that affirms your spidey sense about her, she was saying We need more career military people in cabinet roles. She just doesn’t seem to respect the idea of civilian control of government. Scary.

Yep—I commented on it this morning—it was an article by Josh Marshall, and it kind of reminded me why she gave me the creeps when I saw her speak at our convention—it wasn’t even just that she said we need more military people in cabinet roles; it was the implication that military people are more loyal Americans. This was the line:

These people, arguably, have put far more on the line and are far more deeply personally committed to upholding and protecting our democracy than their critics.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 9:59:25pm

re: #116 BeachDem

Yep—I commented on it this morning—it was an article by Josh Marshall, and it kind of reminded me why she gave me the creeps when I saw her speak at our convention—it wasn’t even just that she said we need more military people in cabinet roles; it was the implication that military people are more loyal Americans. This was the line:

These people, arguably, have put far more on the line and are far more deeply personally committed to upholding and protecting our democracy than their critics.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Rep. Gabbard: Bull. - Sincerely, a veteran and Gold Star Family member.

Put more on the line than people like John Glenn? More than people like Abraham Lincoln? Than a firefighter or a police officer or a volunteer in a homeless shelter? More than a research scientist or an explorer?

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:00:00pm

re: #115 Anymouse

That is not a good sign for a democratic republic. Other nations have worshipped the military in the past to no good end.

Our own people seem to be moving in that direction. I try to answer those who give me the “thank you for your service” line with “thank you for letting me serve the country.”

I want the military to be a servant of the nation, not the other way round.

One political party is firmly in that direction. And Tulsi Gabbard.

Throw in bully LEOs like Joe Arpiro, David Clarke and the thugs in North Dakota who intruded on Standing Rock to physically and mentally assault protesters for good measure.

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Kragar  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:08:40pm
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Jayleia  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:15:28pm

re: #119 Kragar

I had to look twice to make sure it was from Borowitz…

I actually mean that, no / at all. We’re down a mobius strip of rabbit holes.

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Kragar  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:15:44pm
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Jayleia  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:21:03pm

re: #121 Kragar

Shut up Marvel and take my money.

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Kragar  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:22:39pm
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Kragar  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:25:11pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:26:46pm

re: #119 Kragar

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Say hi so I can up-ding you again for that tweet, you sweet bastard. You make @goddamnedfrank proud.

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:32:38pm

re: #124 Kragar

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So now protests are to be banned? What I Amendment?

I need to get to bed. More driving tomorrow, with bunches of bad weather.

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:32:52pm

Kanye West / Simon Phoenix ?

Overrated rapper vs. worst arch-criminal ever. Yeah, they look the same. But I mean …

I’m being pedantic, I know.

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Kragar  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:33:44pm

re: #127 teleskiguy

I was going with “stupid hair”

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Anymouse  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:34:56pm

Comment string at Wonkette:

Spotts1701, Resistance Pilot

Does that mean I can take the rubber mask off now?

Gayer Than Thou

Not until you say the safe word.

Zippy W Pinhead

Little Green Footballs?

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Kragar  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:36:41pm
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Kragar  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:43:48pm
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Jayleia  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:45:01pm

re: #130 Kragar

Mark Litters, a Park Service spokesman, told The Guardian that the blocked-off spaces are “construction zones, effectively.”

They’re either construction zones, or they are not.

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:48:20pm

Skis that separate the sane from insane.

Instagram

Want to go fast? Forget about turning and #pointem #weareskiing @atomicski speed skis 238cm Willi and Jack @wendwaxworks #rahlvesbanzai #waxedbywend

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Honey Punch!  Dec 8, 2016 • 10:57:20pm

Thesis: “Pizzagate” is actually a conspiracy by “Big Pizza” to drive smaller, tastier independent pizzerias out of business.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:03:48pm

re: #133 teleskiguy

You feeling the need for speed Teleski guy?? :P

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:06:16pm

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

Those things don’t even *bend* until you’re going highway speeds.

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:07:10pm
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Jayleia  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:12:59pm

re: #137 teleskiguy

Did not like that…wish they’d just kept the one straight ahead angle instead of switching…and I was feeling a bit of motion sickness.

AWESOME!!!

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:18:44pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:48:09pm

re: #7 thedopefishlives

I never understood that particular delusion. The right wing makes such a big deal about hard work and the American dream, but yet they work so hard just to try to exploit supposed shortcuts to wealth, like electing a dumbass who promises them unicorns.

Americans seem to be particularly susceptible to the allure of miracle diets, overnight get-rich-quick schemes and election results months in advance. Even after we see them fail time and time again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:49:23pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

Ah there’s a fucking graphic

How Donald Trump uses a web of LLCs to obscure his business interests:

So even if there are conflict of interest charges brought against him, it will take years to get to the bottom of them…

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wheat-dogg  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:52:31pm

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So even if there are conflict of interest charges brought against him, it will take years to get to the bottom of them…

In light of that, the president of South Korea has been impeached on corruption charges.

washingtonpost.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:53:41pm

re: #50 Anymouse

“Dark Shadows” is starting on Syfy. (We don’t have television at home. This hotel stuff is kewl.)

Watching TV is always one of our favorite vacation activities (we also do not have one at home).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 8, 2016 • 11:56:45pm

re: #66 Anymouse

For a last hurrah, since Ronald Reagan smuggled them in they’ve been doing pretty well with the Republican Party.

Now they control all three branches of the government. It might be the last hurrah for anyone who is not a Christian (and throw in Catholics for good measure).

They were peeved that Reagan pushed them aside as soon as Nancy’s White House astrologer told them it was propitious to do so.

In the mean time, they have insinuated themselves into government, public administration, education and even the military and have an inordinate share of power in all those areas which they are now able to exploit to full effect under TrumPence.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 12:02:01am

re: #134 Honey Punch!

Thesis: “Pizzagate” is actually a conspiracy by “Big Pizza” to drive smaller, tastier independent pizzerias out of business.

It seems to have been motivated by the clientele of the place in question: rather offbeat. alternative and bohemian, the very sort of people who draw the resentment of the alt-right.

Expect this sort of harassment to continue and go generally unpunished under the new administration.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 12:18:36am

For film and history buffs:

‘Lost’ Austrian film predicting rise of nazism restored and relaunched

Made in 1924, the silent film — the English title is “The City Without Jews” — imagines what life in Vienna (called Utopia in the film) would be like if the city’s Jews were expelled. Basically, culture and commerce come to a screeching halt.

A nearly complete copy of the film was found by chance in a Parisian flea market. A crowdfunding drive raised the money to restore it. Interestingly, after Trump was elected an anonymous Jewish organization in the USA gave a sizable donation, and following the activities of far-right candidates in Austria’s elections, donations to the campaign increased markedly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 12:40:13am

OT:

The Italian view of pineapple (or bananas) on a pizza:

How to make a pizza

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Alyosha  Dec 9, 2016 • 12:50:03am

re: #146 wheat-dogg

“Back when The City Without Jews was made, we had a very similar situation to the one we are in now. At the end of the first world war, a lot of people had been displaced by Russian forces in the north of the empire and were migrating south to Vienna, especially Jews from Bukovina and Galicia. Antisemitic feelings got a massive boost through this refugee crisis and all parties started to make politics with it.”

Yep. Sounds about right.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 12:54:10am

re: #148 Alyosha

Yep. Sounds about right.

Yup. Replace the Jews of the last century with the Syrians, Afghanis, etc., of this century, and it’s same old shit all over again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 12:56:01am

re: #148 Alyosha

Yep. Sounds about right.

I also read that there were people in the Austro-Hungarian Empire who were concerned with the fate of the Jews and their assimilation/integration into society, but they never really consulted the Jews themselves.

Reminds me of that photo of all-male birth control hearings.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 12:56:35am

Who’s the gin lover here ? Is it klys? Here’s a Guardian article about gin sales soaring.

theguardian.com

British drinkers have been quaffing gin in record amounts during 2016, buying 40m bottles in a spending spree that outstripped sales growth in beer and sparkling wine.

Annual gin sales rose 16% to smash through the £1bn barrier for the first time in the UK, leading the drink industry to declare 2016 the “year of gin”.

About 40m bottles were sold over the past 12 months, enough to make 1.12bn gin and tonics, or roughly 28 for every person of legal drinking age in the UK, according to the Wine and Spirit Trade Association. This was an increase of 200m G&Ts compared with 2012, signalling that gin continues to grow in popularity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 12:57:35am

re: #149 wheat-dogg

Yup. Replace the Jews of the last century with the Syrians, Afghanis, etc., of this century, and it’s same old shit all over again.

again, fans of history

Babylon
Egypt
Rome
Spain
Imperial Russia/USSR
Third Reich

What else do these empires have in common besides mistreating their Jews?

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 1:07:12am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, fans of history

Babylon
Egypt
Rome
Spain
Imperial Russia/USSR
Third Reich

What else do these empires have in common besides mistreating their Jews?

One of my high school Spanish teachers was Jewish, and he once pointed out what happened to Imperial Spain after the Expulsion of the Jews — economic collapse. It turned out that expelling bankers and money lenders is not good for a national economy. Who knew?

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 1:07:58am

Don’t mess with grandmas.

Instagram

That bird looks suitably chastened.

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Alyosha  Dec 9, 2016 • 1:15:25am

re: #153 wheat-dogg

One of my high school Spanish teachers was Jewish, and he once pointed out what happened to Imperial Spain after the Expulsion of the Jews — economic collapse. It turned out that expelling bankers and money lenders is not good for a national economy. Who knew?

And I’m pretty sure, as Curious Lurker has pointed out, Jews were basically forced into money-lending during the Middle Ages so that sovereigns could borrow money without forcing Christian merchantmen into usury.
When the loan came due and the sovereign didn’t have the gold or, simply wasn’t inclined to pay, they launched a pogrom.
Helps explain the root of the Jewish banker moral panic which persists.
A society of people moving from pillar to post between Christian Europe and the Islamic empire, dependent on trade and seen as a moral stand-in for the investment that drives national improvements and there you have it: CONSPIRASEE!!!

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 1:21:42am

re: #155 Alyosha

And I’m pretty sure, as Curious Lurker has pointed out, Jews were basically forced into money-lending during the Middle Ages so that sovereigns could borrow money without forcing Christian merchantmen into usury.
When the loan came due and the sovereign didn’t have the gold or, simply wasn’t inclined to pay, they launched a pogrom.
Helps explain the root of the Jewish banker moral panic which persists.
A society of people moving from pillar to post between Christian Europe and the Islamic empire, dependent on trade and seen as a moral stand-in for the investment that drives national improvements and there you have it: CONSPIRASEE!!!

Indeed, there were strict prohibitions against Christians lending money (neither a lender nor a borrower be), but Jews were exempt from such canon and secular laws. Then as now, many people love to borrow money to get things they want, but they’re not always keen on paying the loan back. See Trump, exhibits A-Z. So, rulers could just expel the bankers and lenders — problem solved!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 1:23:06am

re: #153 wheat-dogg

One of my high school Spanish teachers was Jewish, and he once pointed out what happened to Imperial Spain after the Expulsion of the Jews — economic collapse. It turned out that expelling bankers and money lenders is not good for a national economy. Who knew?

But it was good for racial and religious purity!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 1:25:11am

re: #156 wheat-dogg

Indeed, there were strict prohibitions against Christians lending money (neither a lender nor a borrower be), but Jews were exempt from such canon and secular laws. Then as now, many people love to borrow money to get things they want, but they’re not always keen on paying the loan back. See Trump, exhibits A-Z. So, rulers could just expel the bankers and lenders — problem solved!

“Neither a lender nor a borrower be” is from Shakespeare. The Christians simply believed that money is “sterile” and cannot “breed” new money, hence the ban on interest.

But interest is not about generating money, it is about consolidating it further into the hands of the lenders…

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 1:35:41am

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Neither a lender nor a borrower be” is from Shakespeare. The Christians simply believed that money is “sterile” and cannot “breed” new money, hence the ban on interest.

But interest is not about generating money, it is about consolidating it further into the hands of the lenders…

I stand corrected, though I was sure there was some Biblical (or papal?) prohibition against money-lending. I know in 17th century England, “gentlemen” did not sully their hands with commerce and finance, so early English entrepreneurs were largely members of the dissident churches, like the Quakers.

As for Trump, he’s exceptionally adept at renegotiating his debt to lessen the bite on his pocketbook while stiffing the lenders who were fool enough to lend him money.

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Alyosha  Dec 9, 2016 • 1:37:50am

re: #156 wheat-dogg

Indeed, there were strict prohibitions against Christians lending money (neither a lender nor a borrower be), but Jews were exempt from such canon and secular laws. Then as now, many people love to borrow money to get things they want, but they’re not always keen on paying the loan back. See Trump, exhibits A-Z. So, rulers could just expel the bankers and lenders — problem solved!

I mean there are obvious problems that arise when unregulated banks and brokers trade in the exotic derivatives that were in part responsible for the GFC, and so the inclination has been to go for the banks themselves.
I admit to being one of those who saw the bankers themselves as morally corrupt and worthy of expulsion or the mines. Since the media tends to focus more on the personalities involved in such trading, the market context in which they were allowed to be so reckless tends to be overlooked.

I mean, everyone knows Madoff and Ponzi. What seems to be more difficult to grasp is the culture, institution and license. We still tend to scapegoat the individuals, while ignoring the systemic failures.
It’s what’s likely to be America’s downfall in the years ahead.
I mean, if ‘greed is good’ is the operating thesis (and Trump personifies this mentality) why not roll back the protections offered by Dodd-Frank?

When a regulation works well, noone really notices. That’s modern capitalism’s greatest weakness.

Except when the economy does eventually crash again, the wealthy are not only not affected; their grip on the reins is surer than ever.

That’s the CONSPIRACY.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 1:43:23am

re: #160 Alyosha

I mean, if ‘greed is good’ is the operating thesis (and Trump personifies this mentality) why not roll back the protections offered by Dodd-Frank?

Look on greed as a force of nature. Like wind or water. All of which can be good things if contained and channeled to run a business, power a turbine or irrigate a field.

But if you remove those restrictions, those forces can wreck economies, inundate cities and destroy crops.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 1:59:47am

re: #160 Alyosha

The biggest mistake the US made was to allow banks to expand out of their traditional role of lending money and enabling people to save money into investing other people’s money. All that deregulation enabled stodgy old banks to become high-flying investors, and greed made those bankers even more creative in finding ways to make boatloads of money off the backs of ordinary citizens. I don’t consider bankers to be any more evil than any other profession. Rather, I place the blame on the legislators who removed just about every restriction on money-making instruments, and after the house of cards fell down, refused to punish the transgressors. For all the talk about new regulations, nothing much has been done to prevent another crisis like the subprime mortgage fiasco that managed to bring the world’s economy into recession. Trump’s Cabinet are just the kind of people who could make it happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 2:14:09am

re: #162 wheat-dogg

The biggest mistake the US made was to allow banks to expand out of their traditional role of lending money and enabling people to save money into investing other people’s money.

Especially repealing Glass-Steagall Act (which actually happened under Clinton), allowing mortgage bankers to engage in commercial speculation with mortgage money.

Mortgages are subsidized (indirectly through tax credits) so this was basically the government enabling an enormous speculative bubble.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 2:19:38am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Especially repealing Glass-Steagall Act (which actually happened under Clinton), allowing mortgage bankers to engage in commercial speculation with mortgage money.

Mortgages are subsidized (indirectly through tax credits) so this was basically the government subsidizing an enormous speculative bubble.

The short-term effect of deregulation is to allow businessmen to make more money. The long-term effect is to force businesses, or more likely governments, to step in and clean up the messes created by the deregulation. Except, there has been no real “clean-up” of the mortgage crisis of the last decade. It could happen again.

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JasonA  Dec 9, 2016 • 2:47:40am
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Timothy Watson  Dec 9, 2016 • 2:49:07am

re: #165 JasonA

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Has Trump publicly proposed sending a special operations team to rescue him yet?

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 9, 2016 • 3:27:55am

re: #75 jaunte

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95 million unemployed!!!!1!!

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 9, 2016 • 3:36:07am

re: #115 Anymouse

That is not a good sign for a democratic republic. Other nations have worshipped the military in the past to no good end.

Our own people seem to be moving in that direction. I try to answer those who give me the “thank you for your service” line with “thank you for letting me serve the country.”

I want the military to be a servant of the nation, not the other way round.

Though the nation has actually been moving away from that. Our first president was a general, and a number of other generals have been elected President. But Trump will be the third of our last four Presidents to have no military experience at all, and George Bush’s was just in a cushy reserve unit his daddy got him into to avoid Vietnam.

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MsJ  Dec 9, 2016 • 3:53:59am

re: #165 JasonA

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Wilders is running neck and neck in the upcoming election. They’re saying this verdict (the trial itself) is making him some free speech hero against the government.

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Usually refered to as anyways  Dec 9, 2016 • 4:01:52am

Gday Lizards,

Not sure if this has been posted, seems to be making the rounds today:

Holocaust attorney sues FBI over election interference that could ‘lead to impeachment’ of Trump.
Read more…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 4:03:53am

re: #164 wheat-dogg

The short-term effect of deregulation is to allow businessmen to make more money. The long-term effect is to force businesses, or more likely governments, to step in and clean up the messes created by the deregulation. Except, there has been no real “clean-up” of the mortgage crisis of the last decade. It could happen again.

Removing government regulation to promote business is like removing traffic lights to promote freedom of traffic. At some point, you reach gridlock and have to call in a traffic cop to get things moving again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 4:05:34am

re: #169 MsJ

Wilders is running neck and neck in the upcoming election. They’re saying this verdict (the trial itself) is making him some free speech hero against the government.

Another martyr to the cause…just what they need to further stoke their righteous white rage.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 4:07:40am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Removing government regulation to promote business is like removing traffic lights to promote freedom of traffic. At some point, you reach gridlock and have to call in a traffic cop to get things moving again.

And a few ambulances

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 4:20:53am

re: #165 JasonA

Dutch court: Populist anti-Islam lawmaker Geert Wilders guilty of hate speech.

Presiding Judge Hendrik Steenhuis said Friday the court would not impose a sentence on Wilders, saying that the conviction was punishment enough for a democratically elected lawmaker.

What the fuck? They make him a martyr to the cause and yet still impose no sentence on him? This is playing right into his hands

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 4:20:54am

I’m glad I don’t live anywhere near Inner Mongolia. Temperature fell to -43.8°C (-46.8°F) on Tuesday.

shanghaiist.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 4:28:13am

re: #67 thedopefishlives

Let ‘em boycott Ford, I’m a GM man from way back.////

Hey now

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 4:42:16am

re: #175 wheat-dogg

I’m glad I don’t live anywhere near Inner Mongolia. Temperature fell to -43.8°C (-46.8°F) on Tuesday.

shanghaiist.com

Just proves that Global Warming is a hoax invented by the Chinese…

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 9, 2016 • 4:55:23am

re: #13 thedopefishlives

Hard work and the American dream will let you live comfortably in most cases. The “rags to riches” stories vastly over-sold the outcome of a good work ethic.

I like to change “Hard work and The American Dream will make you insanely rich” to “Hard work and The American Dream will allow you to play front four on an NFL team.” Because both are about equally likely, and the latter metaphor is easier for a lot of people to understand.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 4:57:06am

re: #155 Alyosha

And I’m pretty sure, as Curious Lurker has pointed out, Jews were basically forced into money-lending during the Middle Ages so that sovereigns could borrow money without forcing Christian merchantmen into usury.
When the loan came due and the sovereign didn’t have the gold or, simply wasn’t inclined to pay, they launched a pogrom.
Helps explain the root of the Jewish banker moral panic which persists.
A society of people moving from pillar to post between Christian Europe and the Islamic empire, dependent on trade and seen as a moral stand-in for the investment that drives national improvements and there you have it: CONSPIRASEE!!!

It’s pretty odd though, that the symbol of a loan shark is not a Star of David but the 3 globes from the Medici coat of arms.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:12:32am
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Alyosha  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:20:03am

re: #179 The Vicious Babushka

It’s pretty odd though, that the symbol of a loan shark is not a Star of David but the 3 globes from the Medici coat of arms.

I’ve never seen, or at least recognised the Medici globes. When I google ‘predatory lending symbol’ I mostly get this:

In all seriousness, maybe I’ve seen the symbol and not noticed it. Or maybe I’m more sensitive to that blatantly anti-Semitic shit like the ‘sheriff star’.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:22:19am

re: #181 Alyosha

I’ve never seen, or at least recognised the Medici globes. When I google ‘predatory loaning symbol’ I mostly get this:

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In all seriousness, maybe I’ve seen the symbol and not noticed it. Or maybe I’m more sensitive to that blatantly anti-Semitic shit like the ‘sheriff star’.

Pawnbroker symbol

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:25:39am

re: #181 Alyosha

I’ve never seen, or at least recognised the Medici globes. When I google ‘predatory loaning symbol’ I mostly get this:

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In all seriousness, maybe I’ve seen the symbol and not noticed it. Or maybe I’m more sensitive to that blatantly anti-Semitic shit like the ‘sheriff star’.

It’s a rather archaic symbol that I know more from literature and film than from real life.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:26:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:28:45am

How about just opening a place called “Satanic Pedophile Pizza Basement?”

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Jayleia  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:30:10am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That name sounds a bit too metal to be a successful restaurant…might be a good band name maybe.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:31:10am

All VROOM, no BOOM out of the Tanegashima Space Center this morning/evening
ustream.tv

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Alyosha  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:31:12am

re: #182 The Vicious Babushka

Ahh yep, now I see it.

Renaissance-type symbology maybe didn’t flow quite as well into the lesser colonies of the Commonwealth :)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:33:36am

re: #186 Jayleia

That name sounds a bit too metal to be a successful restaurant…might be a good band name maybe.

Guaranteed tons of free publicity, though…especially if it has no basement.

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Alyosha  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:34:05am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How about just opening a place called “Satanic Pedophile Pizza Basement?”

Might have suggested too much/not enough pineapple topping.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:35:00am

re: #190 Alyosha

Might have suggested too much/not enough pineapple topping.

banana and broccoli topping

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:35:14am

re: #184 Timothy Watson

Changing the ending of a movie a month before a December release is not only ludicrous, it’s impossible. The prints (or digital files) are “in the can” several months before release, and actors and sets are already gone. It’s not like shooting a live TV show.

These people are idiots.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:35:30am

But don’t call them deplorables…

Authorities are investigating after the carcass of a wild hog was dumped in the parking lot of an Islamic center in Oklahoma.

Lawton Police spokesman Sgt. Tim Jenkins says security cameras showed a person dropping the carcass at about 2 a.m. Wednesday at the Islamic Center of Lawton, about 75 miles southwest of Oklahoma City. The Lawton Constitution reports ( bit.ly ) that a police sergeant spotted the bloody carcass Wednesday morning and contacted the city’s animal control division, which removed the hog.

abcnews.go.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:35:59am

re: #188 Alyosha

Ahh yep, now I see it.

Renaissance-type symbology maybe didn’t flow quite as well into the lesser colonies of the Commonwealth :)

LOL. I read Dan Brown’s sequel to “The Da Vinci Code”, “The Lost Symbol” and I was like WTF how is this a “Lost Symbol” when it’s a ubiquitous corporate logo?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:36:10am

re: #192 wheat-dogg

Changing the ending of a movie a month before a December release is not only ludicrous, it’s impossible. The prints (or digital files) are “in the can” several months before release, and actors and sets are already gone. It’s not like shooting a live TV show.

These people are idiots.

It’s a rumor. About something that is all the buzz. Almost an inevitability.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:36:46am

re: #192 wheat-dogg

These people are idiots.

I would say the same thing about people who didn’t realize that the Galactic Empire was an obviously racist, sexist Nazis IN SPACE expy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:37:28am

What is with this new “left alignment” default formatting of images?

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Alyosha  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:39:17am

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

LOL. I read Dan Brown’s sequel to “The Da Vinci Code”, “The Lost Symbol” and I was like WTF how is this a “Lost Symbol” when it’s a ubiquitous corporate logo?

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So ‘lost’ that the symbol epitomises ‘FOUND!’

Hiding in plain sight.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:40:38am

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s a rumor. About something that is all the buzz. Almost an inevitability.

Whoever it is, he’s riffing on the criticism of Trump one of the Rogue One writers tweeted, then deleted, which naturally brought a tidal wave of RWNJ butthurt and yet another bullshit boycott. So, now they have to raise the stakes by supposing the very film was edited at the last moment (Nov. 8) to account for a Trump win. Within a few days, it will become Official RWNJ Canon that the directors changed the movie specifically to dump on Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:42:12am

re: #199 wheat-dogg

Whoever it is, he’s riffing on the criticism of Trump one of the Rogue One writers tweeted, then deleted, which naturally brought a tidal wave of RWNJ butthurt and yet another bullshit boycott. So, now they have to raise the stakes by supposing the very film was edited at the last moment (Nov. 8) to account for a Trump win. Within a few days, it will become Official RWNJ Canon that the directors changed the movie specifically to dump on Trump.

The “South Park” team had to change their 11/9 episode at the last minute, so maybe that is where this urban legend came from.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:44:51am

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

The “South Park” team had to change their 11/9 episode at the last minute, so maybe that is where this urban legend came from.

Sure, but only an idiot would propose editing a theatrical film a month before its worldwide premiere is even possible. South Park is a lot easier to remake at the last moment.

smdh

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:46:00am

re: #201 wheat-dogg

Sure, but only an idiot would propose editing a theatrical film a month before its worldwide premiere is even possible. South Park is a lot easier to remake at the last moment.

smdh

SOUTH PARK, STAR WARS, WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE!!!11!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:46:27am

re: #199 wheat-dogg

Whoever it is, he’s riffing on the criticism of Trump one of the Rogue One writers tweeted, then deleted, which naturally brought a tidal wave of RWNJ butthurt and yet another bullshit boycott. So, now they have to raise the stakes by supposing the very film was edited at the last moment (Nov. 8) to account for a Trump win. Within a few days, it will become Official RWNJ Canon that the directors changed the movie specifically to dump on Trump.

It reflects a Larger Truth, namely that the (((Hollywood elite))) hates Trump and, by extension, America. Therefore it need not be factually true in order to be truthful.

You will grow to learn how this works.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:47:27am

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

LOL. I read Dan Brown’s sequel to “The Da Vinci Code”, “The Lost Symbol” and I was like WTF how is this a “Lost Symbol” when it’s a ubiquitous corporate logo?

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Dan Brown has tapped into the huge demographic that believes there are secret societies and conspiracies everywhere, if you only knew where to look for them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:48:25am

re: #204 wheat-dogg

Dan Brown has tapped into the huge demographic that believes there are secret societies and conspiracies everywhere, if you only knew where to look for them.

He is also a shitty writer. There are other writers who do his SEKRIT CONSPIRISSY plots much better.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:49:59am

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

He is also a shitty writer. There are other writers who do his SEKRIT CONSPIRISSY plots much better.

I read most of the Da Vinci Code — mostly I scanned through the second half. I was also not impressed. So I will not read another Dan Brown novel.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:51:36am

re: #206 wheat-dogg

I read most of the Da Vinci Code — mostly I scanned through the second half. I was also not impressed. So I will not read another Dan Brown novel.

There’s a webpage GENERATE A PLOT FOR YOUR VERY OWN DAN BROWN NOVEL. I’m at work now so I can’t connect to it but Google it, it’s hilarious.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:55:12am

re: #206 wheat-dogg

I read most of the Da Vinci Code — mostly I scanned through the second half. I was also not impressed. So I will not read another Dan Brown novel.

It was a fun read; I can see how it would have been enlightening to a lot of people who were obviously not aware of the origins of Christianity and a lot of common modern-day symbolism, but it was taken way too seriously.

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jeffreyw  Dec 9, 2016 • 5:59:35am

Imgur


Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:05:37am

Remember when wingnuts were outraged that Obama went on vacations and played golf? I ‘member.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:12:02am

re: #210 The Vicious Babushka

Remember when wingnuts were outraged that Obama went on vacations and played golf? I ‘member.

Presidents are not supposed to have enough spare time for a SECOND FUCKING JOB

Trump has already redefined the rules of what a Presidential candidate can get away with, he is not going to stop there.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:12:27am

re: #210 The Vicious Babushka

Remember when wingnuts were outraged that Obama went on vacations and played golf? I ‘member.

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The good old days, they were.

AFAIK, no president in recent memory has ever held down another job while serving as president. POTUS is regarded as a 24/7/365 job, even when you’re whacking a little ball around or “vacationing” in your home state. Trump is telling the world that he figures being president will be a walk in the park, and he’s disrespecting the office.

Clearly, Obama was not emphatic enough in coaching Donnie to take over the Oval Office.

We’re in such deep shit.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:12:29am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:13:55am

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump has already redefined the rules of what a Presidential candidate can get away with, he is not going to stop there.

He just does whatever the fuck he wants WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES.

What will it take to make him FACE THE CONSEQUENCES of his fuckups?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:15:45am

He is using the office of POTUS to promote his reality show and his properties.

WHY DO WE FUCKING ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. WHAT IS WRONG WITH US.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:16:23am

My yard is full of Robins……..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:16:38am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

He just does whatever the fuck he wants WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES.

What will it take to make him FACE THE CONSEQUENCES of his fuckups?

Nothing. Now that he is President, WE have to face the consequences.

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Jayleia  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:17:24am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

As of right now? The GOP.

Profiles in courage, that lot.

In two years? Probably us, after Trump somehow manages to tweet us into a war with an interstellar power.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:17:43am

re: #216 Dave In Austin

My yard is full of Robins……..

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My hovercraft is full of eels…

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:18:51am

re: #219 I Would Prefer Not To

My hoovercraft is full of eels…

Please don’t bogart…… Pass it over to me!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:19:34am

re: #210 The Vicious Babushka

Remember when wingnuts were outraged that Obama went on vacations and played golf? I ‘member.

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Spare time? Producing a show isn’t spare time. Spare time is yeah Obama golfing, Nixon bowling, or whatever. This is just pathetic. They whined non stop about Obama golfing but it’s okay for Trump to actually be involved in the production of a reality show?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:20:15am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Spare time? Producing a show isn’t spare time. Spare time is yeah Obama golfing, Nixon bowling, or whatever. This is just pathetic. They whined non stop about Obama golfing but it’s okay for Trump to actually be involved in the production of a reality show?

And promoting his properties.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:20:41am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

He just does whatever the fuck he wants WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES.

What will it take to make him FACE THE CONSEQUENCES of his fuckups?

Trump is a rich white dude, born into a rich white dude’s family. He’s never had to face consequences of his fuckups. People like him are insulated by family, money and privilege from the consequences lesser people face every day. But, as a public servant in the public eye, sooner or later he will fuck up so badly that nothing will save his ass. I only hope the collateral damage will be minimal.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:21:00am

I had to buy a Don’t Bkame Me, I voted for Kodos t shirt.

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:21:20am

re: #124 Kragar

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So, on Inauguration Day a shit ton of protesters show p and are arrested en masse on national TV. That’ll be a good look for the Greatest Country on Earth.
///

(Of course, I’m ignoring the face that Trump will order the TV networks not to show said arrests of protesters, and the spineless, worthless, complicit media will apply, because access. Fuckers.)

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Franklin  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:21:33am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:21:39am

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

And promoting his properties.

Yep that too. Unbelievable isn’t it?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:24:02am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

He is using the office of POTUS to promote his reality show and his properties.

WHY DO WE FUCKING ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. WHAT IS WRONG WITH US.

Remember that he does not reflect a majority or even a plurality of the popular vote, he reflects a majority of pledged electors in our current system.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:25:11am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

He just does whatever the fuck he wants WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES.

What will it take to make him FACE THE CONSEQUENCES of his fuckups?

All I can tell you know is wait. We’re watching him do things before he’s president. We currently don’t have anything in place for dealing with this behavior.

And when I say wait, I don’t mean do nothing. Let as many people as you can know what is going on, and have them let other people know. Tell your congress people. But there are no tools in place for doing anything about him other than possibly convincing the Electoral College not to install him, which I just really don’t see happening.

Edit: And remember, he lost the popular vote, and he’s already done some things that will piss off some of his voters (going after unions for one thing).

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:25:56am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Spare time? Producing a show isn’t spare time. Spare time is yeah Obama golfing, Nixon bowling, or whatever. This is just pathetic. They whined non stop about Obama golfing but it’s okay for Trump to actually be involved in the production of a reality show?

AFAIK, executive producers mostly just front a lot of money and maybe offer some oversight over production. They are not required to be on site. Even so, being an executive producer while serving as president upsets a long history of presidents only doing presidenting while in office.

The only way I figure Trump will be able to handle all these jobs simultaneously is if he make each one part-time, delegating the daily ops to his flunkies, while he sits at his bigly desk and barks orders over the phone and tweets all day. Knowing his ego, he’ll probably spend more time overseeing the TV show than overseeing the USA.

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Franklin  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:26:34am

I should get back to work, I have fallen down the internet rabbit hold and I am currently making cake memes. God dammit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:26:58am

re: #229 Belafon

All I can tell you know is wait. We’re watching him do things before he’s president. We currently don’t have anything in place for dealing with this behavior.

And he is gleefully and blissfully aware of that. And he is aware that the media that helped elect him will to their utmost to help keep his Presidential Entertainment Show on air for as long as possible.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:28:20am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area, which is finally feeling like December. Yeah, it’s cold. About damned time. All those fall seasonal allergies weren’t going away because we just didnt’ get cold enough for long enough to finally kill off those weeds and allergy sources.

But the GOP wants people thinking global warming isn’t real, or isn’t man made, when all the evidence points to yes - it is.

So, the GOP has decided that to get around this fact-based problem that they’d attack the source. Go after the agencies that track this information, or collect the information, and put people into positions of power that are intent on dismantling these agencies or the regulatory schemes they oversee that are meant to keep people safe or reduce effects of pollution or keep the water and air clean.

Trump has padded his cabinet with lackeys and inexperienced people whose only qualifications are that they said yes for the job - or who paid Trump over the years by any number of means (McMahon donating to Trump Fdn to keep it solvent being one such example).

What fresh hell does Trump have in store for us today? Will he grace us with a Sec State nominee? Or will he decide that he’s too busy with being a producer of a reality tv show to bother with the heavy lifting of a transition. Obama Administration officials have pretty much thrown up the red flags that Trump’s not serious about the transition - and that they’re not getting people for the positions and getting people up to speed so that they can start running on day 1 of the Trump Admin.

Put simply, Trump’s transition process is a shit show where they don’t care about vetting candidates for cabinet level positions and are more interested in finding people ideologically compatible with Trump (or more likely, Pence’s) views on disassembling the govt in ways large and small.

Of course, this puts the nation at serious risk - not just for something like a terror attack because warnings are missed and people who should have been in the loop aren’t (like Trump himself, who apparently doesn’t bother with reading the intel briefings as anyone in his position should on a daily basis), but on every other front because mine disasters happen, important bridges collapse, regional blackouts happen, wildfires happen, and every other conceivable type of manmade or natural disaster can strike, and you need to have people prepared to deal with the contingencies.

Oh, and Trump’s decided that he wont tolerate dissent against his administration by calling on the NPS to ban protests from obtaining permits before, during, and after his inauguration in DC:

Yeah, some 1A rights you have there. It’d be a shame if anything happened to them.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:28:40am

re: #230 wheat-dogg

AFAIK, executive producers mostly just front a lot of money and maybe offer some oversight over production. They are not required to be on site. Even so, being an executive producer while serving as president upsets a long history of presidents only doing presidenting while in office.

The only way I figure Trump will be able to handle all these jobs simultaneously is if he make each one part-time, delegating the daily ops to his flunkies, while he sits at his bigly desk and barks orders over the phone and tweets all day. Knowing his ego, he’ll probably spend more time overseeing the TV show than overseeing the USA.

All true. This is just so pathetic how all this is being legitimized.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:31:21am

gocomics.com

Stephan Pastis weighs in.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:33:04am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And he is gleefully and blissfully aware of that. And he is aware that the media that helped elect him will to their utmost to help keep his Presidential Entertainment Show on air for as long as possible.

It behooves the independent media to hold his feet to the fire constantly. Every time he screws up, we’re going to have be loud and clear about it. There have been 44 presidents prior to Trump. We need to remind everyone how those presidents behaved while in office — for good or ill. Trump being an “outsider” does not excuse him from the requirements and traditions of the office. If anything, he needs to be held to an even higher standard.

Unfortunately, no one in the MSM or Congress seem to be willing to try that.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:34:44am

re: #236 wheat-dogg

It behooves the independent media to hold his feet to the fire constantly. Every time he screws up, we’re going to have be loud and clear about it. There have been 44 presidents prior to Trump. We need to remind everyone how those presidents behaved while in office — for good or ill. Trump being an “outsider” does not excuse him from the requirements and traditions of the office. If anything, he needs to be held to an even higher standard.

Unfortunately, no one in the MSM or Congress seem to be willing to try that.

No one in Congress in power. We’ve had one senator put up a bill forcing Trump to sell his stuff, but Republicans aren’t going to let that one through.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:36:29am

re: #236 wheat-dogg

It behooves the independent media to hold his feet to the fire constantly. Every time he screws up, we’re going to have be loud and clear about it. There have been 44 presidents prior to Trump. We need to remind everyone how those presidents behaved while in office — for good or ill. Trump being an “outsider” does not excuse him from the requirements and traditions of the office. If anything, he needs to be held to an even higher standard.

Unfortunately, no one in the MSM or Congress seem to be willing to try that.

Both institutions have changed: both are chocked full of insecure incompetents who feel that they need someone like DT to justify their pathetic existence.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:36:41am

And now for some heartwarming stuff…. and cats.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:46:48am

re: #216 Dave In Austin

My yard is full of Robins……..

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Right now, my yard is in the process of being covered in snow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:55:22am
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Franklin  Dec 9, 2016 • 6:59:23am

At my daughter’s school they offer a prayer during morning assembly (Catholic School). So this morning I gave her a history lesson over breakfast so she could recommend a prayer for John Glenn to the Principal.

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SteveMcG RN  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:14:14am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

I see dead people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:14:45am

re: #243 SteveMcG RN

I see dead people.

and a dying year…

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:17:09am

re: #243 SteveMcG RN

It’s a trap.

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:19:22am

re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and a dying year…

This year can’t kick it fast enough for me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:20:29am

re: #246 makeitstop

This year can’t kick it fast enough for me.

I wish I could say I was looking forward to the new one.

Which is like saying you are looking forward to Trump being impeached.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:22:01am

2016 can redeem itself, slightly, if Charles Manson kicks the bucket before the 1st.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:23:35am

re: #248 Shiplord Kirel

2016 can redeem itself, slightly, if Charles Manson kicks the bucket before the 1st.

Steve Bannon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:26:49am
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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:27:03am

I’ve about given up on the Alex Jones death pool. My new hypothesis is that he is already dead and what we are seeing is a steroid-enhanced zombie.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:29:05am
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:29:48am

re: #236 wheat-dogg

It behooves the independent media to hold his feet to the fire constantly. Every time he screws up, we’re going to have be loud and clear about it. There have been 44 presidents prior to Trump. We need to remind everyone how those presidents behaved while in office — for good or ill. Trump being an “outsider” does not excuse him from the requirements and traditions of the office. If anything, he needs to be held to an even higher standard.

Unfortunately, no one in the MSM or Congress seem to be willing to try that.

As long as CBS-Viacom, Disney-ABC, Comcast-NBC, Fox, TimeWarner-CNN, the NYT and other companies all owned by humongous conglomerates turn massive profits by softballing coverage, then who cares?

Les Moonves is rolling in the dough a la Scrooge McDuck as the imminent destruction of the United States is “damn good for CBS.”

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Timothy Watson  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:30:29am

Did anyone see Sen. Bill Nelson’s eulogy of John Glenn?

Iframe

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:31:22am

Sanity break, courtesy of Spock (left) and Bean (right). They’re getting bold enough to venture downstairs and hang in the living room.

Oh Hai
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:32:42am

re: #251 Shiplord Kirel

I’ve about given up on the Alex Jones death pool. My new hypothesis is that he is already dead and what we are seeing is a steroid-enhanced zombie.

Space aliens took away his brain back in 1998 and replaced it with tater tots.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:35:44am

Started skimming headlines and saw Kirk Douglas’ name, and thought … whew.. he just turned 100.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:37:23am

Much respect

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:38:29am

re: #257 lawhawk

Started skimming headlines and saw Kirk Douglas’ name, and thought … whew.. he just turned 100.

Spartacus is my Hero!!

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Momkat56  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:40:01am

I like to think that when word gets around about preemptive blocking of protests, perhaps a variation of the Streisand Effect will kick in.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:40:51am

United States of Goldman-Sachs….
FUCK!!!! GAAAAAA!!!!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:43:09am

re: #233 lawhawk

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Arkansawyer  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:44:04am

This doesn’t relate to anything being discussed, but I feel people need to know. There’s an area of Little Rock named Batman’s Subdivision, and it predates the hero by 21 years. Happy Friday yall.

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:44:40am

re: #262 Stanley Sea

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Bobby was always good for a nervous laugh.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:50:06am

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

SOUTH PARK, STAR WARS, WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE!!!11!!!

Animation and real, totally the same thing. I just drew a submarine, guess I can build one in real life also.

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Jayleia  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:50:15am

re: #263 Arkansawyer

OK now you have to tell the story behind that one…

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:52:23am

re: #262 Stanley Sea

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He needs to put a stop to the PPAP.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:52:47am

OFFS… Trump picks another Goldman Sachs executive for a key economic position.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:53:19am

re: #264 makeitstop

Bobby was always good for a nervous laugh.

My task this morning was to inform my Aunt, the Mets fan of this potential appointment.

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:56:39am

re: #269 Stanley Sea

My task this morning was to inform my Aunt, the Mets fan of this potential appointment.

Wait, wait, that’s for realz? Oh god, I just Googled it…

(Actually, I guess he could do worse. Valentine loves Japan, and they like him a lot.)

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Stanley Sea  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:58:20am

re: #270 makeitstop

Wait, wait, that’s for realz? Oh god, I just Googled it…

(Actually, I guess he could do worse. Valentine loves Japan, and they like him a lot.)

It is just bizarre.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:59:17am

re: #271 Stanley Sea

It is just bizarre.

My Aunt’s comment (& she loves Bobby) is that all respect our nation had will disappear.

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Arkansawyer  Dec 9, 2016 • 7:59:39am

re: #266 Jayleia

OK now you have to tell the story behind that one…

The subdivision was created in 1908. So, that was a typo on the predating. It’s actually 31 years older than the hero. There was a guy named Bateman who bought up a bunch of land and wanted to subdivide. Whoever wrote out the bill of assurance (almost everything was handwritten back then) misspelled his name by omitting the “e”. So, instead of “Bateman’s” it was filed as “Batman’s”. No one bothered to correct the mistake so it stuck.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:02:38am

re: #272 Stanley Sea

My Aunt’s comment (& she loves Bobby) is that all respect our nation had will disappear.

Come on, we need someone who isn’t afraid to kick a little dirt on Abe’s shoes….

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:03:44am

re: #274 Barefoot Grin

Come on, we need someone who isn’t afraid to kick a little dirt on Abe’s shoes….

And if they toss him out of the country he’ll put on a fake nose & glasses and go back in.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:04:00am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:04:36am

re: #276 lawhawk

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I’m stealing that one.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:07:31am
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Franklin  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:10:49am

re: #277 Barefoot Grin

I’m stealing that one.

Not if I steal it first :)

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:11:53am
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:12:52am

Yep, the Trump administration is going to Drain the Swamp™, straight into the Reflecting Pool, making it a private club and fully owned property of The Trump Organization.

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Franklin  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:13:30am

re: #279 Franklin

Hit refresh on my 279, I deleted the tweet and reposted giving credit.

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:18:18am

re: #257 lawhawk

Started skimming headlines and saw Kirk Douglas’ name, and thought … whew.. he just turned 100.

And while we’re talking about heroes, I’d include Kirk Douglas in my list. (Recently watched “Trumbo” and it reinforced my admiration for Kirk.)

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Stanley Sea  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:23:21am
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sagehen  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:25:05am

re: #242 Franklin

At my daughter’s school they offer a prayer during morning assembly (Catholic School). So this morning I gave her a history lesson over breakfast so she could recommend a prayer for John Glenn to the Principal.

The obvious:

High Flight
John Gillespie Magee, Jr

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth,
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I’ve climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds, —and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of —Wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov’ring there
I’ve chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air…
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I’ve topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark or even eagle flew —
And, while with silent lifting mind I’ve trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:25:41am

Holy shit. I we going see massive purges?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:27:45am

re: #286 Barefoot Grin

Holy shit. I we going see massive purges?

You better believe it.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:32:08am

re: #286 Barefoot Grin

Holy shit. I we going see massive purges?

In this case, we’re seeing the consequences of electing the guy who said he doesn’t believe in climate change. It’s also a sign of the influence of companies like Exxon because all of the stuff from the group they’re going after would make us more energy independent, but it would also mean less profits.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:33:05am

re: #287 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Hey, I’ve been looking for you

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:33:30am

And @JaredWyand has FINALLY been suspended from Twitter. Good.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:35:00am

re: #263 Arkansawyer

This doesn’t relate to anything being discussed, but I feel people need to know. There’s an area of Little Rock named Batman’s Subdivision, and it predates the hero by 21 years. Happy Friday yall.

In the British military, a ‘batman’ was an officer’s personal servant. That’s probably what it’s named after.

EDIT: Never mind - it’s mis-named after a “Bateman” owing to a typo.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:39:15am

re: #290 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Someone call the WAAAAAMBULANCE

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:40:59am

Obama may deal Trump a staggering, delegitimizing blow on the way out.

President Barack Obama has ordered U.S. intelligence agencies to deliver to him a dossier of the evidence that the Russian government used cyber attacks and other means to intervene in the 2016 election, possibly with the idea of making more information public, a senior intelligence official tells NBC News.

White House counterterrorism advisor Lisa Monaco told reporters that the results of the report would be shared with lawmakers and others.

Go for it, Mr. President. Fuck this pretender. Don’t give him time to quash this.

Wound him, quickly.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:41:22am

re: #292 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Someone call the WAAAAAMBULANCE

I bet this guy feels bad about Trump preventing protests in DC. //

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:42:04am

re: #293 makeitstop

Obama may deal Trump a staggering, delegitimizing blow on the way out.

Go for it, Mr. President. Fuck this pretender. Don’t give him time to quash this.

Wound him, quickly.

Can he release this before the EC votes?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:48:19am
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:49:49am

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

Can he release this before the EC votes?

Even if it’s released after the EC vote, Trump is automatically delegitimized. (//) The GOP would have no choice but to install Mike Pence, and don’t make the move at their own peril (and that of the nation in general).

They own the shitshow that is to follow, and may see all their hopes and dreams of a Dominionist empire collapse like a house of cards.

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Arkansawyer  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:50:47am

re: #291 Dr Lizardo

In the British military, a ‘batman’ was an officer’s personal servant. That’s probably what it’s named after.

EDIT: Never mind - it’s mis-named after a “Bateman” owing to a typo.

I review real estate documents as part of my job. I love getting to send deeds back for a correction every time it’s spelled Bateman rather than Batman. Didn’t know that about the British military though.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:51:43am

re: #297 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Even if it’s released after the EC vote, Trump is automatically delegitimized. The GOP would have no choice but to install Mike Pence, and don’t make the move at their own peril (and that of the nation in general).

“Automatically delegitimized”? As if everything he has done UP TO NOW hasn’t already been automatically delegitimizing?

He could shoot someone in cold blood on 5th Avenue and not be “automatically delegitimized”

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:51:55am

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

Can he release this before the EC votes?

I sure hope so. If he waits, Trump will put the kibosh on it.

This needs to come out ASAP. It will open a lot of people’s eyes.

We can’t stop Trump taking office. The only alternative is to reveal him as the Putin stooge he is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:52:33am

re: #293 makeitstop

Obama may deal Trump a staggering, delegitimizing blow on the way out.

Go for it, Mr. President. Fuck this pretender. Don’t give him time to quash this.

Wound him, quickly.

Yes, but who is going to believe a lame-duck Kenyan Muslim usurper?

/

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:52:38am

re: #299 The Vicious Babushka

“Automatically delegitimized”? As if everything he has done UP TO NOW hasn’t already been automatically delegitimizing?

He could shoot someone in cold blood on 5th Avenue and not be “automatically delegitimized”

I should have added the // tag. Dammit.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:52:58am

Bobby Valentine for Ambassador to Japan? Really?

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:53:43am

re: #297 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Even if it’s released after the EC vote, Trump is automatically delegitimized. The GOP would have no choice but to install Mike Pence, and don’t make the move at their own peril (and that of the nation in general).

Except if Pence and/or Ryan also knew and did nothing (or worse, actively ignored it) (and therefore violated their own oaths to protect/defend the US Constitution), in which case the line of secession is also blown to bits - and you’d get yourself a constitutional crisis of epic proportions.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:53:55am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:54:13am

re: #302 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I should have added the // tag. Dammit.

We have entered the Alternate Media Reality, where satire and reality mutually cancel each other out on a regular basis.

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:54:41am

re: #297 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Even if it’s released after the EC vote, Trump is automatically delegitimized. The GOP would have no choice but to install Mike Pence, and don’t make the move at their own peril (and that of the nation in general).

I think if there’s any effort to drop this info after Trump has taken office, he’ll go to the same lengths to keep it out of the public eye as he did for his tax returns.

We can’t chance it. Gotta come out by January 19. And every Democrat in every elected office should run, not walk, to their nearest TV camera and proclaim Trump illegitimate, loudly and often.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:54:56am

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

Can he release this before the EC votes?

I’m sorry, but you should really give up this fantasy of any significant number of “faithless electors”. The vast majority of electors are party loyalists. They are not going to reject their party’s nominee.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:57:05am

re: #304 lawhawk

Except if Pence and/or Ryan also knew and did nothing (or worse, actively ignored it) (and therefore violated their own oaths to protect/defend the US Constitution), in which case the line of secession is also blown to bits - and you’d get yourself a constitutional crisis of epic proportions.

I actually believe that to be the case. Trump supporting a crackpot primary “challenger” to Ryan may have been a smokescreen.

The GOP is so power-hungry that EVERYONE in their party within the line of succession is a willing accomplice.

Except for the generals. //

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2016 • 8:57:09am

re: #308 FormerDirtDart

I’m sorry, but you should really give up this fantasy of any significant number of “faithless electors”. The vast majority of electors are party loyalists. They are not going to reject their party’s nominee.

It isn’t about the electors. He’s going to take office, and that’s a fact.

It has to come out before the EC votes to taint his presidency once and for all. Then let him take office being even more hated that he is now.

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Franklin  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:00:02am

I propose this image as the cover page to the Russian - US Election Hacking Memorandum:

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:01:16am

I see this announcement as indicating that Obama’s not going to be sitting on the sidelines after the election is over.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:01:57am

re: #312 Belafon

I see this announcement as indicating that Obama’s not going to be sitting on the sidelines after the election is over.

He still cares about his country.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:03:06am

re: #310 makeitstop

It isn’t about the electors. He’s going to take office, and that’s a fact.

It has to come out before the EC votes to taint his presidency once and for all. Then let him take office being even more hated that he is now.

THIS. Along with everyone else in the GOP rank-and-file who is a willing accomplice.

He’s a decided minority president who has nowhere to go but down, down and down.

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Jayleia  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:03:35am

re: #304 lawhawk

Oh god…Trump AND Pence out of the running, they have no Cabinet in place yet, the Republican leadership is tarred by their association with Trump who is basically revealed as a Russian agent on top of them already being associated with him.

EDIT: God help us if multiple members of Congress are directly implicated.

This is fine.

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:04:26am

re: #314 Myron Falwell (no relation)

THIS. Along with everyone else in the GOP rank-and-file who is a willing accomplice.

He’s a decided minority president who has nowhere to go but down, down and down.

To coin a verb, Comey him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:05:35am

re: #316 makeitstop

To coin a verb, Comey him.

Comey Island Baby

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:05:50am

re: #316 makeitstop

To coin a verb, Comey him.

Remember all those wingnut memes that showed Obama in prison clothes after being convicted of “treason” for being a Kenyan Muslim?

I ‘member.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:06:54am

re: #316 makeitstop

To coin a verb, Comey him.

Give him a Comey-over!

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:09:13am

re: #312 Belafon

I see this announcement as indicating that Obama’s not going to be sitting on the sidelines after the election is over.

re: #313 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He still cares about his country.

Yup. He’ll be a perpetual nightmare for the GOP as they project “hurr durr he’s still campaigning!” derp.

Just positioning himself as a statesmanlike figure is more than enough to make Trump suffer a horrific nervous breakdown.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:09:53am

If it does come out, it will be our job to raise a stink about it. “Putin’s Puppet” should just be the start.

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:10:12am

re: #319 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Give him a Comey-over!

He’s already got one of those…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:10:25am

re: #320 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Yup. He’ll be a perpetual nightmare for the GOP as they project “hurr durr he’s still campaigning!” derp.

Just positioning himself as a statesmanlike figure is more than enough to make Trump suffer a horrific nervous breakdown.

He will be able to do a very convincing version of “Miss me yet?”

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Jayleia  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:11:24am

re: #310 makeitstop

It isn’t about the electors. He’s going to take office, and that’s a fact.

It has to come out before the EC votes to taint his presidency once and for all. Then let him take office being even more hated that he is now.

If much of the information is basically reporting public records, release it AFTER the EC votes. The Republican electors will get slapped with “IT WAS RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU!”, the Republican party from RNC to dogcatcher will get that…or at least, if the media stops reading Trump’s Twitter feed long enough…

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:13:09am

re: #323 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He will be able to do a very convincing version of “Miss me yet?”

Ral Donner - You Don’t Know What You’ve Got

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:13:19am

re: #324 Jayleia

If much of the information is basically reporting public records, release it AFTER the EC votes. The Republican electors will get slapped with “IT WAS RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU!”, the Republican party from RNC to dogcatcher will get that…or at least, if the media stops reading Trump’s Twitter feed long enough…

Obama is good with timing…remember how he sat on his birth certificate and let the Birther issue become so ingrained in Republican DNA that they still could not drop it even once it was thoroughly discredited?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:14:25am

re: #325 BeachDem

You don’t know what you got till it’s gone
They paved Paradise and put up a parking lot

Joni Mitchell Big Yellow Taxi

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:14:28am

re: #323 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He will be able to do a very convincing version of “Miss me yet?”

While at the same time being a powerful leader of the opposition, being able to rally it together more effectively than whomever is installed as the head of the DNC.

One other thing: he would finally being able to assist in rebuilding grassroots organizations like ACORN.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:14:35am

re: #325 BeachDem

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Video

Ral Donner doing Blitzenkrieg Bop!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:16:35am

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

Can he release this before the EC votes?

POTUS said he wants it on his desk before he leaves office.

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:17:51am

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:18:39am

re: #324 Jayleia

If much of the information is basically reporting public records, release it AFTER the EC votes. The Republican electors will get slapped with “IT WAS RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU!”, the Republican party from RNC to dogcatcher will get that…or at least, if the media stops reading Trump’s Twitter feed long enough…

Why not release it before the EC? That gives enough people cover to vote for a Kasich (ha!), thus Trump only wins by a 5-10 vote margin in the EC and turning that into a giant shitshow.

Because quite frankly, I want the EC to also be blown up in front of our eyes.

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Citizen K  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:19:20am

re: #331 darthstar

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Yeah, that’s some fucking hero. Jesus wept.

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:20:48am

re: #333 Citizen K

Yeah, that’s some fucking hero. Jesus wept.

:)

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lockjawcanbefun  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:31:53am
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ObserverArt  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:33:57am

re: #216 Dave In Austin

My yard is full of Robins……..

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Hey! I recognize that robin. I saw him in late September on my back fence. Nice bird.

Well, crap…it took three minutes to type that. Site is unusable. No reason to waste time trying to use it. See you when I can afford it…bummed out.

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:34:57am

re: #216 Dave In Austin

My yard is full of Robins……..

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The Batmans flew south already?

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:35:42am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

POTUS said he wants it on his desk before he leaves office.

If it’s not released by then, the Democrats can relentlessly claim active suppression of potential espionage by the FBI and intelligence communities.

President Obama just played one heck of a hand.

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Citizen K  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:41:00am

re: #338 Myron Falwell (no relation)

If it’s not released by then, the Democrats can relentlessly claim active suppression of potential espionage by the FBI and intelligence communities.

President Obama just played one heck of a hand.

With the FBI involved, why do I get the feeling their conclusions will damn Clinton and absolve Trump after the data in the report tells the exact opposite story?

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:43:44am

re: #339 Citizen K

With the FBI involved, why do I get the feeling their conclusions will damn Clinton and absolve Trump after the data in the report tells the exact opposite story?

Automatically assume that the FBI is complicit. They will need to be drowned out before given a chance to speak.

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Jayleia  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:43:55am

re: #338 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I think if I played 5-card stud with POTUS, he could probably get 7 aces legally…

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Franklin  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:44:56am

re: #341 Jayleia

I think if I played 5-card stud with POTUS, he could probably get 7 aces legally…

I sense @POTUS44 is going to become the new Chuck Norris (meme-wise).

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Skip Intro  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:49:32am

Trump Eyeing Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers For Interior Department

What are her qualifications?

“In Congress, Rep. McMorris Rodgers has consistently voted to prioritize drilling on our public lands and waters, including in sensitive areas like the Arctic, and even to open up our public lands for sale to the highest bidder,” said League of Conservation Voters President Gene Karpinski in a statement.

So she’s perfect.

huffingtonpost.com

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Franklin  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:49:53am

Pretty sure I read this due to a link someone here posted, but wanted to (re) share it.

The Digital Transition: How the Presidential Transition Works in the Social Media Age

Fascinating or a bore depending on how big of a geek/historian you are.

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:54:46am

BTW, someone on FB started a “Little Drummer Boy” challenge. Once you hear LDB (in an elevator, at work, at a store, wherever, you have to post “I’m out” and where you heard it. I did pretty well…making it through Thanksgiving and into December…then three days ago I’m stopping at the grocery store and a busker on his harmonica was playing the damn song…a freakin’ busker.

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Jayleia  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:55:53am

re: #343 Skip Intro

USDA Dietitian: Hannibal Lecter?

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:56:09am

Spare time…welcome to the Reagan & Bush 43 years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:57:05am
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wrenchwench  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:57:09am

re: #345 darthstar

BTW, someone on FB started a “Little Drummer Boy” challenge. Once you hear LDB (in an elevator, at work, at a store, wherever, you have to post “I’m out” and where you heard it. I did pretty well…making it through Thanksgiving and into December…then three days ago I’m stopping at the grocery store and a busker on his harmonica was playing the damn song…a freakin’ busker.

My brother does that every year. It’s the only thing he does religiously.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2016 • 9:58:37am
351
Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:01:16am

re: #343 Skip Intro

Trump Eyeing Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers For Interior Department

What are her qualifications?

So she’s perfect.

huffingtonpost.com

Pushing all these unconfirmable picks while everyone else is obviously tainted by Russian espionage.

We might be severely underestimating the severity of a potential Constitutional crisis.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:02:38am

re: #345 darthstar

BTW, someone on FB started a “Little Drummer Boy” challenge. Once you hear LDB (in an elevator, at work, at a store, wherever, you have to post “I’m out” and where you heard it. I did pretty well…making it through Thanksgiving and into December…then three days ago I’m stopping at the grocery store and a busker on his harmonica was playing the damn song…a freakin’ busker.

And like that… the earworm has hit - and I’m thinking of the Crosby-Bowie version.

Damnit! Like we need another reminder of how shitty 2016 has been?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:03:29am

re: #347 darthstar

Trump spokeswoman says he will produce The Apprentice in his ‘spare time’

This is why we elected a BUSINESSMAN to be President: they are masters of delegation and time management.

/

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:03:39am

re: #352 lawhawk

And like that… the earworm has hit - and I’m thinking of the Crosby-Bowie version.

Damnit! Like we need another reminder of how shitty 2016 has been?

And I didn’t even say rumpapumppum.

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:04:14am

re: #354 darthstar

And I didn’t even say rumpapumppum.

Or Trump-a-Trump-Trump. There…now that song is dead to me.

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Franklin  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:04:15am

re: #343 Skip Intro

Trump Eyeing Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers For Interior Department

What are her qualifications?

So she’s perfect.

huffingtonpost.com

Wow. Thanks for posting, I just threw it up on Twitter:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:04:33am

re: #352 lawhawk

And like that… the earworm has hit - and I’m thinking of the Crosby-Bowie version.

Damnit! Like we need another reminder of how shitty 2016 has been?

That was one of my favorite Xmas tunes as a kid and I refuse to let ANYTHING ruin it, even overplaying to death or THAT, um, man…

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wrenchwench  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:05:11am

re: #354 darthstar

And I didn’t even say rumpapumppum.

I’m out.

re: #355 darthstar

Or Trump-a-Trump-Trump. There…now that song is dead to me.

All the way out.

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:06:36am

I think Trump’s cabinet is going to be like a real world version of Celebrity Apprentice. As soon as he disagrees with someone, he’s going to say, “You’re fired!” and tweet about it. This is why I think he might as well start with Gary Busey as Secretary of State.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:09:00am

re: #343 Skip Intro

Trump Eyeing Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers For Interior Department

What are her qualifications?

So she’s perfect.

huffingtonpost.com

We should convince her that all of the scientists are wrong, and that it’s not magma under Yellowstone, but oil, and that she need to allow drilling right away to secure America’s future.

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Franklin  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:09:41am

Listening to a little Tim McGraw. And reminded that this is possibly the saddest f*cking song ever written.

Don’t Take the Girl

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:09:55am

re: #360 Belafon

We should convince her that all of the scientists are wrong, and that it’s not magma under Yellowstone, but oil, and that she need to allow drilling right away to secure America’s future.

That fracking water will actually help cool and stabilize the magma, right?

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:13:59am

What’d be worse than Cathy McMorris Rodgers at Interior? If they gave the craven Bundy clan the job. With Rodgers at the helm, it’s plenty bad, and watch for the GOP to push to divest the federal government of its western lands - especially in and near various national parks where there’s significant mineral resources, such as near the Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Zion/Bryce/Capitol Reef, Arches, and Canyonlands, as well as the Alaskan national parks and areas that Obama has yet to set aside for protection under the Wilderness Act (and don’t forget that the GOP might look to undo that as well).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:16:22am

I’m waiting for him to appoint one of the Duck Dynasty loons.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:17:04am

re: #363 lawhawk

What’d be worse than Cathy McMorris Rodgers at Interior? If they gave the craven Bundy clan the job. With Rodgers at the helm, it’s plenty bad, and watch for the GOP to push to divest the federal government of its western lands - especially in and near various national parks where there’s significant mineral resources, such as near the Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Zion/Bryce/Capitol Reef, Arches, and Canyonlands, as well as the Alaskan national parks and areas that Obama has yet to set aside for protection under the Wilderness Act (and don’t forget that the GOP might look to undo that as well).

They are out to to overturn the very concept of federal stewardship of lands, at least those that can be mined or ranched for a profit. That was the basis of the Bundy Clan’s claim in the first place.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:17:35am

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m waiting for him to appoint one of the Duck Dynasty loons.

Secretary of Family Affairs?

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:19:25am

It’s almost as if they DON’T want these cabinet positions filled.

They may be more comfortable letting the Democrats filibuster everything, blame them, and not put any replacements whatsoever.

In short, letting these departments wither on the vine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:20:10am

re: #367 Myron Falwell (no relation)

It’s almost as if they DON’T want these cabinet positions filled.

They may be more comfortable letting the Democrats filibuster everything, blame them, and not put any replacements whatsoever.

In short, letting these departments wither on the vine.

That does sound like the method behind the madness.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:21:39am

re: #289 Stanley Sea

kxMoMaqxNi2JSj052ds+fDj4J9/lbOssZyyCQfp/1xUx6acmHWBw8Py0sNDKnqDVDK3emmPnGNzHF9LjzEStwz8thLBrNG9V3WlSVguJ31enWoG9JlB6uf9CZ1THN+q6eraNU2x9+LF++NUOFqdTRI0dlLoE43qZI8Vt2Eh+2CVpcCntPh+L++iwklm9HU504TVRf3NywTV1VzXfr4vS8Kz8ud2122gPM5I0Il5gsOrHrOx3Dee4tQJYnc1ZVae4uGTlRaUmFUKvtxDWlxmepDrABUoigZ9bW9f3pPHmwwT19XzvUrbp8Wx5srDGWWlzytqJBblC7UoLO4pDsHtpy/altV+ybYGaoce081t7sKI=

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:23:16am

Had a mini freak out last night. I felt a string running the length of my surgery scar. Now, I know about stitches - I’ve had those before - and they go back and forth across the place where they cut you, but the doc specifically told me he used glue and not stitches, so finding a string - a taut string at that - coming out of my body at one point and going back into it at another…and as it’s right on the belt line, it probably explains why the damn scar hurts all the time. And it’s running vertically, along the cut line. So I call the doc’s service and they connect me with him and he explains that the self-dissolving stitches he did use sometimes pop out of the body. He said to come into the office and he’d cut it. I ended up snipping it myself with my Swiss Army knife scissors. Still, it freaked me the fuck out.

I cropped the below pic so you all couldn’t see my pubes. You’re welcome.
Almost actual size:

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:24:08am

re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Comey Island Baby

Comey whitefish

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:27:32am

re: #343 Skip Intro

Trump Eyeing Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers For Interior Department

What are her qualifications?

So she’s perfect.

huffingtonpost.com

Frack Yellowstone already and get it over with.

373
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:29:57am

the entire article at the moment:

Republicans apparently aren’t going to be satisfied with phasing out Medicare. They’re going to try to pass huge cuts to Social Security this year too. Not Bush-style partial phaseout but just big, big cuts. And you’re out of luck even if you’re a current beneficiary.

More shortly.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:30:34am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’ll go over well.

375
Belafon  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:31:22am

It would be great if the EC would give him a 274 EV win. Then, when he complains about how the EC doesn’t reflect by how much he won, we can all say “Yep, we agree.”

As for reality, we’re just going to have to battle him, enable Democrats everywhere to do the same, and encourage even those who voted for him to see what he’s actually doing.

376
Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:31:31am

You know, CW says that if Trump had lost it would be terrible for the GOP, I think him being elected is going to be even worse, sadly it will be worse for everyone else too.

377
BeachDem  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:31:52am

re: #361 Franklin

Listening to a little Tim McGraw. And reminded that this is possibly the saddest f*cking song ever written.

Don’t Take the Girl

I agree. My favorite McGraw.

Don’t Take The Girl (Tim Mcgraw)

378
Franklin  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:33:14am

re: #377 BeachDem

Like hell I’ll watch that video. The audio is sad enough :)

379
BeachDem  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:33:45am

re: #367 Myron Falwell (no relation)

It’s almost as if they DON’T want these cabinet positions filled.

They may be more comfortable letting the Democrats filibuster everything, blame them, and not put any replacements whatsoever.

In short, letting these departments wither on the vine.

Idiocracy - Brawndo owns the FDA

380
wrenchwench  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:34:55am
381
The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:34:57am
382
BeachDem  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:36:39am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

the entire article at the moment:

My biggest personal fear. So I guess maybe I WON’T try to retire just yet. (I’m only 68 fucking years old—what’s the rush?)

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:36:44am

re: #368 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That does sound like the method behind the madness.

Doesn’t it?

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

I dare them to do this. They will regret everything that is to follow, violent or otherwise.

384
BeachDem  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:38:17am

re: #378 Franklin

Like hell I’ll watch that video. The audio is sad enough :)

I don’t watch it either—crying just listening. Like I needed anything to make me sadder.

385
lawhawk  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:39:42am

re: #372 The Vicious Babushka

Frack Yellowstone already and get it over with.

Frack Yellowstone, and Yellowstone will frack you back. Bigly. I’m rather partial to Yellowstone as it currently is, and not a 100 mile wile caldera with everything downwind for 100s of miles obliterated by ash and fallout from the most massive eruption since the last time it blew its stack.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:39:50am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

the entire article at the moment:

pretty vague, also doesn’t specify which bill. But I wouldn’t put it past some on the R side.

387
Belafon  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:41:27am

re: #386 Sir John Barron

pretty vague, also doesn’t specify which bill. But I wouldn’t put it past some on the R side.

It’s probably related to the bill Price, who is the nominee for HHS, has written. He’s tying cuts to Medicare and SS to the debt.

388
Stanley Sea  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:42:08am

re: #369 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

iBsCTUX+whJZCmzg7fRvBtZUcfNM3Zu+vSiREykzFy2aeEejRi9MrQyTj/wJTIjZ

389
Stanley Sea  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:43:55am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

the entire article at the moment:

Fucked

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:44:01am

All y’all in Ohio that sat out the election, or thought both parties were the same, you own this nightmare. Because the parties and their respective candidates were and continue to be nothing alike.

391
HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:45:04am

re: #381 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Then he really shouldn’t be President. Mathematics doesn’t interest me. That’s why I don’t do math for my career. But hey I’m not a narcissistic asshole.

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wrenchwench  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:47:14am

I don’t want to say it’s time to clean up my act, but day before yesterday, I was walking home around dusk, and a guy passed me crossing the street the other direction, stopped, gave a sympathetic head-tilt, and asked, ‘Are you homeless?’ The good part is maybe it’s an indication of an increase in empathy out there, but on the other hand, I gotta be one of the least intimidating people in the USA; a small, gray-haired white lady. Whose flannel-lined jeans are baggy and worn. I have more.

393
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:47:44am

good grief, the six-week fetal heartbeat legislation apparently wasn’t enough for these asshats…

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - Abortions would be banned after 20 weeks under a bill that Republican lawmakers hoped to pass Thursday and add to legislation already on its way to GOP Gov. John Kasich that would prohibit abortions once a fetal heartbeat is detected.

The House Community and Family Advancement Committee voted Wednesday night to pass the 20-week ban, which now heads to the full House for consideration Thursday.

That follows House approval Tuesday night of the so-called heartbeat bill, clearing the way for what would be one of the nation’s most stringent abortion restrictions.

That legislation would prohibit most abortions as early as six weeks into pregnancy after the first detectable heartbeat.

Kasich, an abortion-rights opponent, has previously voiced concerns about whether such a move would be constitutional. He has not said whether he plans to sign either measure.

394
BeachDem  Dec 9, 2016 • 10:52:43am

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief, the six-week fetal heartbeat legislation apparently wasn’t enough for these asshats…

[Embedded content]

That was their plan all along—create an uproar over the 6-week bill, so they could then pass the 20-week bill they actually wanted as a “great compromise.” That’was the Ohio “Right to Lifers’ ” (barf) strategy from the beginning.

395
gocart mozart  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:01:19am

Handy graph for when people ask “what has Obummer done?”

396
Belafon  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:02:56am

You will get a kick out of this one: Trump’s labor secretary loves immigrants, wants to tear down Trump’s wall. Breitbart sad

Let’s absorb the magnitude of the [Andrew] Puzder appointment. Trump’s signature issue was immigration restriction. Number 1.

He slammed hard the Bush family in general and Jeb Bush in particular as weak and low energy on immigration.

The Labor Department enforces immigration law in the workplace — the key way that immigration laws are enforced.

And the person Trump names to head Labor? Perhaps the most outspoken advocate of Bush-style immigration policy in US business community!

Puzder likes having the cheap immigration labor in fast food.

397
Interesting Times  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:03:48am

re: #390 lawhawk

All y’all in Ohio that sat out the election, or thought both parties were the same, you own this nightmare. Because the parties and their respective candidates were and continue to be nothing alike.

398
Timothy Watson  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:04:08am

re: #395 gocart mozart

Handy graph for when people ask “what has Obummer done?”

[Embedded content]

We should stop sucking up to the Europeans and bomb them instead.

399
Amory Blaine  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:04:29am

Trump just got the bigliest, most responsibility job in the government, so let’s start bragging about all the free time he’s gonna have!

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:06:09am

Heh.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:06:46am

The NYT plays magical balance fairy between what is a crime and what is criticism (aka expressing free speech).

Assaulting a person is a crime. Threatening a person with serious bodily harm is a crime.

Shouting at a person that they’re racist is criticism.

That the Times doesn’t know the difference shows just how debased they’ve been (all along for that matter).

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:06:55am

Oh, and apparently McCafferry is OK with Flynn now because it was just a case of inexperience with social media. Uh huh.
Twitter feed may be better for teenage intrigue than policy formulation. YA THINK?? (Wonder what he’ll come up with as an excuse for Trump’s tweets?)

Let me say, by the way, I was somewhat reassured last night to get a long e-mail from General Flynn. What we may have here is a case of real inexperience on dealing with social media as these people move from this savage campaign mode into governance. Twitter feed may be better for teenage intrigue than policy formulation. When they’re retweeting these on nonsense fantasy stories, I’m not sure they understood they seem to be endorsing them.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Kragar  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:07:37am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:18:07am

re: #388 Stanley Sea

UpJiXf5ONMxfOFvmmwxAOg==

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 9, 2016 • 11:35:21am

re: #396 Belafon

Puzder likes having the cheap immigration labor in fast food.

This is one of the key conflicts at the heart of immigration reform. Cheap labor vs. intact borders.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 14, 2016 • 10:11:47am

re: #137 teleskiguy

great soundtrack on that video!


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