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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:29:44pm

If there’s anything that has truly amused me about Lamb’s win, it’s all the wingnuts who are trying to pretend this is a “good thing” because he’s a “conservative Democrat” and this somehow makes him the same as a far-right wingnut Republican.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:36:48pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

If there’s anything that has truly amused me about Lamb’s win, it’s all the wingnuts who are trying to pretend this is a “good thing” because he’s a “conservative Democrat” and this somehow makes him the same as a far-right wingnut Republican.

Or that the RCCC spent 10 million bucks trying to keep this seat Republican.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:47:02pm

As noted downstairs, one of the current wingnut fear-memes is about sperm counts.

Insecure, they are.

Anyway…

I’ve been watching some recent presentations at Oxford, about physics controversies.

Here’s the one about “cold fusion”:

- HAPP Centre - Dr Michael Loughlin

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JordanRules  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:11:59pm
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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:13:31pm

re: #4 JordanRules

Cue for lawsuits.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:16:23pm

re: #4 JordanRules

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So Jews could be denied the right to adopt kids in South Carolina????

Who’s next?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:19:40pm

re: #6 Joe Bacon 🌹

So Jews could be denied the right to adopt kids in South Carolina????

Who’s next?

Blacks, because why the fuck not?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:21:20pm

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Blacks, because why the fuck not?

I want Governor Asshole to define “Christian” and let him do a Trump and do a Twitter rant against Catholics, Mormons, Mainstream Protestants…

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:25:27pm

re: #8 Joe Bacon 🌹

His directive would, it appears, allow say a Muslim adoption group from servicing non-Muslims, etc.

Your question, of course, still stands. What will be used by any agency to define their in-group?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:28:08pm

re: #5 retired cynic

Cue for lawsuits.

Patent violation of the US Constitution, and probably even the SC constitution.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:33:25pm

re: #9 freetoken

Oh, this is another case of there being no set standard precisely because the sliding standard is convenient.

Denying on the basis of “religion” back doors in profiling by politics, class, race by altering the criterion of religiosity.

ETA: this kind of legislation should probably be looked at in the context of the enormous, extremely shady “Christian adoption” industry that pretty much sells kids and does nothing to protect them from mistreatment.

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austin_blue  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:35:45pm

I watched the Miramar speech and I just thought, “This man is not competent. He’s incapable of doing his job.”

And yet, he’s the President.

So what can we do? Maybe a secular prayer:

Dear Bob Mueller!

We beseech thee to accelerate your investigation!

We all know that even if there isn’t a pee tape (which would be great!) that the Trump organization has been laundering Russian Oligarch money through his real estate holdings to get financing for his future real estate speculation.

It’s a classic influence scheme built on dirty money. And the President is absolutely beholden to that Russian cash flow, because after his bankruptcies, no western bank is going to float him money without promises from Russians with very deep pockets. (I’m looking at you, Deutsche Bank and you are fully in the cross hairs.)

He has bragged about being the King of Debt, and he has no liquidity without that Russian gelt.

So I pray that you, Mr. Mueller, will concentrate on the money, because that is always where the corruption starts.

And then, there is the 2016 election, which is, sadly, a by-product of the money trail.

I pray that you understand that once the Russians had their hooks into Trump’s companies, and once he announced his run for the Presidency, that the Russians realized what a Useful Idiot he could be if he was actually elected, and unleashed a cyber attack on our country to help make it so, and how many other clueless American Useful Idiots joined right in to make it happen.

This was tangential and fortunate for the Russians who don’t want the massive amount of money laundering they achieved using the Trump companies to ever see the light of day. I pray that you concentrate on the money, (it’s always the money) that is the root of the corruption in the Trump administration.

Amen

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JordanRules  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:37:38pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:42:49pm

re: #13 JordanRules

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What infuriates me is that no matter what he says or does, most of the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press snorts another line of the Magic Balance Fairy Dust and proclaims that Both Sides Do It…

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JordanRules  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:42:59pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:44:00pm

re: #13 JordanRules

Idiocracy was inaccurate in two ways:

- Stupid moves way faster than genetic inheritance.
- The just plain stupid people of the future still like elected officials that have some charm and character.

We’re dealing with the willfully stupid, and they chosen a concussed shark in a wig as their representative.

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JordanRules  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:46:10pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

What infuriates me is that no matter what he says or does, most of the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press snorts another line of the Magic Balance Fairy Dust and proclaims that Both Sides Do It…

Yep, he’s speaking gibberish ffs!
But you know, they will beat us with bullshit balance because they don’t respect the truth or their craft enough and their overlords only respect their money god. Infuriating!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:46:51pm

re: #16 The Ghost of a Flea

And not one of the cool shark species.

The “I live in mud and ambush large shrimp” sharks.

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Slump-chan  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:48:31pm

re: #16 The Ghost of a Flea

Also, when President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho had a serious problem, he went to the most intelligent person he could find.

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JordanRules  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:49:27pm

re: #16 The Ghost of a Flea

…a concussed shark in a wig…

*chortle*
That works really well.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:50:35pm

re: #20 JordanRules

I’m honestly proud of that one, and appreciate the feedback.

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austin_blue  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:54:16pm

Night all, I’m off for the rack.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:00:10pm

Somebody call the waaambulance. Conservative snowflakes triggered after one of their own got temporarily suspended on Twitter.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:05:18pm
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freetoken  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:17:13pm

re: #23 DodgerFan1988

Lots of butthurt.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:38:13pm

American families are breeding terrorists:

Sister of Charleston church shooter Dylann Roof made threat, had weapon at AC Flora

The younger sister of Dylann Roof, who murdered nine black parishioners during bible study at a Charleston church, was arrested and charged Wednesday for possessing drugs and weapons on school grounds.

Morgan Roof, 18, was charged with simple possession of marijuana and two counts of carrying weapons on school grounds, according to the Richland County Sheriff’s Department, which confirmed her relationship to Dylann Roof.

Morgan Roof had also made a social media post on Snapchat which alarmed the student body.

In it, Morgan Roof said she hoped the students participating in the National Walkout Day, protesting gun violence, would “get shot.”

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:40:41pm
Based on what Morgan Roof posted online, she disagreed with the walkout. What struck a nerve was her comment that “we know it’s fixing to be nothing but black people walkin out anyway.”

Terrorists and racists.

These things are taught.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:57:43pm
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Ace-o-aces  Mar 15, 2018 • 12:03:27am

re: #23 DodgerFan1988

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Kragar  Mar 15, 2018 • 12:07:40am
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 15, 2018 • 12:20:40am

The depth of Trump’s malignancy is revealed not merely in the fact that he reflexively lies without even bothering to research the underlying facts first, it’s that now he’s fucking bragging about it. He and his supporters are getting more and more comfortable with discarding any pretense that they’re “telling it like it is.” The lie is no longer just a shibboleth used to identify the ideological self from the other, it’s becoming an overt tool to reshape society into an Orwellian dystopia where the idea of objective truth is no longer even vaguely aspirational. They are openly pursuing a policy of aggressive dishonesty and obstreperous ignorance as an end to itself.

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2018 • 12:23:43am

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

…his credibility gets shredded.

He had no credibility left to shred.

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LastYearsMan  Mar 15, 2018 • 12:33:36am

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

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The depth of Trump’s malignancy is revealed not merely in the fact that he reflexively lies without even bothering to research the underlying facts first, it’s that now he’s fucking bragging about it.

The man has no friends, only fellow grifters and sycophants. And he thinks diplomacy is the same. No allies, just people in on the scam.

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JordanRules  Mar 15, 2018 • 12:50:53am

Oh man, this was an interesting little Telecom journey. I read the transcript instead of listening to the pod.

#104 The Case of the Phantom Caller

Show Notes
A woman in New Jersey is getting strange phone calls to her office from unknown numbers. Every time she picks up, she finds herself eavesdropping on the life of a different stranger. Unsure what else to do, she calls in Super Tech Support.

gimletmedia.com

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 15, 2018 • 12:56:31am

“Peace for our time.”

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2018 • 12:59:42am

re: #34 JordanRules

Sounds like it should be an Twilight Zone episode.

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JordanRules  Mar 15, 2018 • 1:17:32am

re: #36 freetoken

Sounds like it should be an Twilight Zone episode.

Yes and our fascination with such ironically feeds part of the story and someone’s wallet. And I’d bet the audio has some creepily appropriate accompanying music.

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JordanRules  Mar 15, 2018 • 1:24:07am

People love their spreadsheets.

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Kragar  Mar 15, 2018 • 1:27:19am

“it amends Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (CDA) of 1996, which protects online platforms from liability for their users’ speech. Without that protection, EFF argues, “social media would not exist in its current form.” Which is to say that the internet as we know it—from Twitter to the comments section at the bottom of this article—relies on online platforms having immunity for third-party content. If Section 230 is weakened, Twitter or Jezebel’s parent company could be potentially held liable for something posted in the comments.”

Tech experts say it will pressure online platforms—like, say Facebook—to remove all user content even possibly related to sex trafficking. That’s a massive undertaking and EFF warns that platforms will have to resort to automated filters that would flatten critical distinctions—for example, between advertisements for sex trafficking and resources for trafficking victims. In a blog post, EFF’s Elliot Harmon and Jeremy Gillula explain, “From a technical perspective, creating such a tool that doesn’t also flag a victim of trafficking telling her story or trying to find help would be extremely difficult.”

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freetoken  Mar 15, 2018 • 1:45:34am

Don Lincoln, at Fermilab, has been posting a series of videos aimed at explaining Special Relativity.

His latest is on the so-called Twin Paradox:

Twin paradox: the real explanation

It’s not bad, but I think he sort of punted with his punchline. It is not clear to me why this elaborate mind experiment (of observers A, B, C) are a perfect equivalent to the previously introduced animation of the twins (one going to Alpha Centauri and back.)

While I think it is good to point out that acceleration is not the cause of the time dilation (this is special relativity, not general relativity), without it we would not experience the paradox as the twins would never meet again.

This is why his thought experiment has 3 actors, not two. It takes the additional actor transferring information to another, to illustrate mathematically what is going on.

His previous videos are pretty good.

It is important to remember that many times our first look at an idea is flawed because we are, in literary terms, omniscient. We are claiming to be able to know something, say what the clocks read for all actors in one of these scenarios, that the actors themselves cannot know.

This is general is the problem of the non-intuitiveness of time-dilation.

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JordanRules  Mar 15, 2018 • 2:00:27am

Kids in tow, women mock Muslims inside Tempe mosque

azcentral.com

So one of the women is named Gonzales. Their hate group didn’t claim her.

A representative later said via Twitter that Gonzales was “never part of our group” and that Dauenhauer was “removed and publicly denounced when we were made aware of this awful act.”

The deplorable elements displayed here are numerous.

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JordanRules  Mar 15, 2018 • 2:07:05am
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JordanRules  Mar 15, 2018 • 2:11:58am
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freetoken  Mar 15, 2018 • 2:47:10am

Detectorists!

A rare hoard of 2,000 year-old gold coins have been found in a farmer’s field near Chiddingstone

Ten solid gold coins dating back to the Iron Age have been discovered in a field near Chiddingstone.

The rare find was hauled from its 2,000 year-old resting place by a man with a metal detector and has been taken to the British Museum for safe keeping.

[…]

Image: gold-coins-found-in-chiddingstone.jpg

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 2:49:08am

re: #42 JordanRules

UN blames Facebook for spreading hatred of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar.

Social Media as a news source.

Fer fuck’s sake, as soon as “trending on Twitter” became a news item of its own, I began to fear for the future of our Republic…

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 15, 2018 • 3:54:11am

Beware the Ides of March!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 3:55:26am

re: #46 Shropshire Slasher

Beware the Ides of March!

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 15, 2018 • 4:13:56am

They need to re-think their weather color coding chart:

Its not lemon flavored!

thesun.co.uk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 4:19:27am

just don’t eat it!

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 4:21:25am

Scaramucci is publishing a book. Quick read.
politicalwire.com

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Bubblehead II  Mar 15, 2018 • 4:21:36am

It’s awake.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 15, 2018 • 4:24:34am

re: #48 Shropshire Slasher

They need to re-think their weather color coding chart:

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thesun.co.uk

Just marking where the huskies go.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 4:40:13am

re: #50 Decatur Deb

Scaramucci is publishing a book. Quick read.
politicalwire.com

An “aspirational working class” would be one that is willing to adapt to a new economy and be re-educated for future-proof industries, not dreaming of the good old days when any high-school grad could get a well paid factory or mining job with benefits and support a family from it.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 15, 2018 • 4:45:19am

re: #16 The Ghost of a Flea

“concussed shark in a wig”

LOL. You do know that Trump is afraid of sharks, right?

theverge.com

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 4:48:54am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was part of the perspirational working class. Getting their kids out of that was the aspiration of the aspirational working class.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 15, 2018 • 4:53:05am

Morning…..

Facebook Post

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 4:53:58am

re: #55 Decatur Deb

I was part of the perspirational working class. Getting their kids out of that was the aspiration of the aspirational working class.

in the good old days, my dad, a steelworker, could afford a house, a car and send his kids to state universities to get degrees and get out of the working class

now it is too often the case that even two full-time working parents can barely afford to get their kids through high school and the kids have to take on a lifetime of debt to pursue a university education.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 15, 2018 • 4:56:58am
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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 4:59:02am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Like a large part of my generation, the GI Bill was my way out. We were “paying it forward” whether we wanted to or not.

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 4:59:26am

dry socks are everything

that is all

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:02:18am

re: #59 Decatur Deb

Like a large part of my generation, the GI Bill was my way out. We were “paying it forward” whether we wanted to or not.

We want our country to be “run like a business” Handing it over to capitalists means that they look on things like education, health care, environmental or safety regulations as expenses to be minimized, not as investments in a productive workforce and healthy society.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:02:24am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:03:18am

re: #60 dangerman

dry socks are everything

that is all

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:07:26am

re: #62 Big Beautiful Door

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Dave In Austin  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:09:00am
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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:10:01am

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:10:52am

re: #58 Dave In Austin

Larry Kudlow has been sober for 23 years, no small feat.

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jeffreyw  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:10:54am

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Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:15:46am

re: #67 Shropshire Slasher

Larry Kudlow has been sober for 23 years, no small feat.

god has forgiven him

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Dave In Austin  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:18:12am

re: #67 Shropshire Slasher

Larry Kudlow has been sober for 23 years, no small feat.

I get it. If he’s stayed the course. More power to him. 26yrs here…. So I understand completely. My problem is not with Larry, but personally anyone from Fox needs to be exempted. This is ridiculous.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:19:14am

re: #68 jeffreyw

Mob Rule…. And BlueJays. Bird Mafia!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:21:32am

re: #67 Shropshire Slasher

Larry Kudlow has been sober for 23 years, no small feat.

Working for Trump may end that run

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:24:40am

re: #68 jeffreyw

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Those translucent female cardinals are really pretty.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:30:00am

Oh Boy……

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Bubblehead II  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:36:30am

re: #74 Dave In Austin

Oh Boy……

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:43:14am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

An “aspirational working class” would be one that is willing to adapt to a new economy and be re-educated for future-proof industries, not dreaming of the good old days when any high-school grad could get a well paid factory or mining job with benefits and support a family from it.

Shit, my grandfather knew that and he’d be 89 tomorrow. He struggled in school. Was drafted for Korea and then went to trade school for brick masonry. The working class can and should adapt. This isn’t the economy of the past.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:47:07am

re: #4 JordanRules

I love the look on his face. Satan has his hand up my ass and none of this is my fault!

Haven’t had a decent night’s sleep since Saturday and I’m a touch loopy.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:47:26am

re: #35 DodgerFan1988

“Peace for our time.”

How’s Graham going to get his war now?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:49:06am

re: #76 HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)

Shit, my grandfather knew that and he’d be 89 tomorrow. He struggled in school. Was drafted for Korea and then went to trade school for brick masonry. The working class can and should adapt. This isn’t the economy of the past.

A lot of miners and industrial workers seem to have bought into the argument that their jobs have been by government regulation and globalism, and all we need to do is remove all those pesky environmental, health and safety regulations and put up some protective tariffs and the well-paid jobs will come flooding back without the need for unions, either…

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:56:20am

re: #39 Kragar

Not a bug. A feature.

Yes, it destroys free speech but don’t you want to stop the sex trade?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 15, 2018 • 5:58:46am

Well, I could have told them that.

But I don’t have a Ph.D.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:00:41am

This is the best this you well see all day….. If ya get blue, watch it again.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:03:13am

re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s because most ‘capitalists’ are not capitalists. They’re executive employees. It doesn’t matter how badly they fuck up they end up rich.

Actual capitalists care about the future because they’d like to be making money in 25 years. The frauds don’t give a shit because they’ll never be held responsible for their actions.

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:03:58am

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:04:22am

IHeartMedia - the company owned by Bain Capital (Romney), home of Rush Limbaugh - is filing for bankruptcy. In the nine years Bain has controlled ClearChannel, they have not even kept up with interest on the loans to buy the company.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:06:01am

re: #85 Belafon

IHeartMedia - the company owned by Bain Capital (Romney), home of Rush Limbaugh - is filing for bankruptcy. In the nine years Bain has controlled ClearChannel, they have not even kept up with interest on the loans to buy the company.

Good, fuck them.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:08:06am

re: #60 dangerman

dry socks are everything

that is all

Makes me think of this old Willie and Joe cartoon.

Last pair of dry socks
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:08:08am

re: #84 dangerman

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:09:06am

re: #81 wheat-dogg

Well, I could have told them that.

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But I don’t have a Ph.D.

Or a big microphone

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:10:45am

re: #78 Belafon

How’s Graham going to get his war now?

There’s always Iran. Trump’s comments suggest he is going to break the Iran deal soon.

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jeffreyw  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:11:58am

re: #73 bill d. (b.d.)

Those translucent female cardinals are really pretty.

I like these hummers with the cellophane wings:

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:13:47am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:21:43am

re: #92 dangerman

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:23:20am

Found out from my daughter that their middle school was going to have a walk out yesterday, but because of icy roads there was a two hour delay so school didn’t start until 10:30. There was a protest at the Capitol which included students from all over the state, including a student speaker from Marshall High School, which had its own walkout which the media was kept away from to protect the students.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:31:23am

Trump doesn’t know how to use big words. His supporters are impervious to big words.

Therefore start with direct and clear small words.

Words like lie.

Trump lies. It’s what he does. It’s all he does.

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:40:19am

re: #95 lawhawk

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Trump doesn’t know how to use big words. His supporters are impervious to big words.

Therefore start with direct and clear small words.

Words like lie.

Trump lies. It’s what he does. It’s all he does.

Yes yes yes

And simple clear pointed follow-up questions when you don’t get a legitimate answer the first time

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:50:01am

For a newcomer to politics, Conor Lamb has mad skills and used his military background to great effect. Makes me think Amy McGrath might be able to pull off the same feat and beat Andy Barr in Ky-6, though of course I will support the Democratic nominee whether its her or popular Lexington Mayor Jim Gray, who is openly gay.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 15, 2018 • 6:55:59am

re: #97 Big Beautiful Door

For a newcomer to politics, Conor Lamb has mad skills and used his military background to great effect. Makes me think Amy McGrath might be able to pull off the same feat and beat Andy Barr in Ky-6, though of course I Will support the Democratic nominee whether its her or popular Lexington Mayor Jim Gray, who is openly gay.

He ran a great campaign. Showed the human side of the policies Saccone supports/opposes that hurt people.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:05:19am

re: #67 Shropshire Slasher

Larry Kudlow has been sober for 23 years, no small feat.

And Señor Snort will fall off the wagon very very soon…

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:07:25am

More good economic news as already low firings got even lower this week. In a shameful note, as in every week for months now, claims taking procedures have still not returned to normal in Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:07:38am

re: #81 wheat-dogg

Well, I could have told them that.

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But I don’t have a Ph.D.

Franky Graham Cracker and his fellow Pulpit Pimps will reply, “Who needs education when you have…Jesus?”…

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:09:16am

Morning!

So, apparently some people just woke up in the media to discover Trump was full of bull all the time.

Hello?! Where have you been the last 40 years? It has been painfully evident since the late 70s he was full of it.

So, now that it has finally dawned on you, what are you going to do about it?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:11:13am

re: #102 ObserverArt

Morning!

So, apparently some people just woke up in the media to discover Trump was full of bull all the time.

Hello?! Where have you been the last 40 years? It has been painfully evident since the late 70s he was full of it.

So, now that it has finally dawned on you, what are you going to do about?

Your friendly neighborhood Presstitutes will continue to snort the Magic Balance Fairy Dust and still proclaim that “Both Sides Do It”!

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:11:29am

re: #102 ObserverArt

Morning!

So, apparently some people just woke up in the media to discover Trump was full of bull all the time.

Hello?! Where have you been the last 40 years? It has been painfully evident since the late 70s he was full of it.

So, now that it has finally dawned on you, what are you going to do about?

I thought he was full of shit in the mid 90’s. I wasn’t even 10.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:15:24am

Reason #21,640 for gloating and cheering as we watch Lubbock dry up and blow away over the next couple of decades:

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:15:27am

re: #104 HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)

I thought he was full of shit in the mid 90’s. I wasn’t even 10.

They have run the Clintons through the shredder. They pounced on Obama for Rev. Wright, Guns and God, and You Can Keep Your Doctor…but Trump…He’s Unique!

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451_Montag  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:20:17am

The trouble is with Trump is the perfect storm of a situation.

Hilary was supposed to win. So a lot of lack of invested voters allowed themselves to vote of Trump; It would have been a fairly normal election with an slightly (at least in the newspapers) yucky candidate would get the win, but with a hostile congress and senators to hold them back. “Normalcy” would resume.

BUT… he won with minor numbers of votes. So he got Congress and the senate and the top job in the world. This let him off, he convinced himself that he won due to the ideas, but he didn´t really get it. He was supposed to lose.

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:28:08am

re: #85 Belafon

IHeartMedia - the company owned by Bain Capital (Romney), home of Rush Limbaugh - is filing for bankruptcy. In the nine years Bain has controlled ClearChannel, they have not even kept up with interest on the loans to buy the company.

bain’s also hip deep in toys r us

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:30:37am

re: #102 ObserverArt

Morning!

So, apparently some people just woke up in the media to discover Trump was full of bull all the time.

Hello?! Where have you been the last 40 years? It has been painfully evident since the late 70s he was full of it.

So, now that it has finally dawned on you, what are you going to do about it?

nothing new dawned on them

now it’s news because he said it himself - almost bragged about it

harder to ignore now

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:31:20am

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Reason #21,640 for gloating and cheering as we watch Lubbock dry up and blow away over the next couple of decades:

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donald r may is an asshat

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:33:12am

re: #96 dangerman

Yes yes yes

And simple clear pointed follow-up questions when you don’t get a legitimate answer the first time

He has people who are paid to explain his lies as if they had any truth to them at all.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:33:18am

WTF? The nuts don’t fall far from………each other.
Dylann Roof’s Sister Brought Weapons To National School Walkout

White supremacist terrorist Dylann Roof may be safely behind bars where he belongs, and his equally racist sister just joined him on Wednesday when she followed in his footsteps to some degree.

Morgan Roof, 18, was arrested on Wednesday following a threatening social media post when law enforcement found weapons and a meaningless amount of weed on her.

“Your walking out for the allowed time of 17min, they are letting you do this, nothing is gonna change what tf you think it’s gonna do?” Roof posted in an atrociously-spelled Snapchat story on Wednesday.

“I hope it’s a trap and y’all get shot we know it’s fixing to be nothing but black people walkin out anyway,” she continued, adding, “No offense ofc buuut.”

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:33:31am

re: #108 dangerman

bain’s also hip deep in toys r us

The problem with Bain is that they don’t buy struggling companies to restructure them to succeed. They buy struggling companies to load them with more debt before they collapse in order to make a large profit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:35:02am

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Reason #21,640 for gloating and cheering as we watch Lubbock dry up and blow away over the next couple of decades:

America’s children marching in the streets in protest of guns reminds us of other times and places when Socialists used the children of their nation to destroy any opposition. The Hitler Youth, Mao’s Red Guard, and Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge marching in the streets all come to mind.

Their proven tactics of attack, defame and deflect are somehow just not working against these media-savvy school children who have put a sympathetic human face on the issue of gun control.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:40:08am

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Reason #21,640 for gloating and cheering as we watch Lubbock dry up and blow away over the next couple of decades:

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It reminds me of ME 50 years ago with my classmates marching and protesting against the Vietnam War.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:42:09am

re: #115 The Vicious Babushka

It reminds me of ME 50 years ago with my classmates marching and protesting against the Vietnam War.

I think that their chances of getting gunned down in a school shooting are currently comparable to those of getting drafted, sent to Vietnam and killed in a firefight.

One can argue about why we were fighting in Vietnam, but it is hard to justify the abnormally high rate of mass shootings in the US when compared to any other civilized nation in the world.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:43:07am

re: #115 The Vicious Babushka

It reminds me of ME 50 years ago with my classmates marching and protesting against the Vietnam War.

That’s what came to mind for me, too (the protests, I mean; I was in kindergarten about then). Or if he wants China, maybe Tiananmen Square in 1989.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:46:08am

re: #113 Belafon

The problem with Bain is that they don’t buy struggling companies to restructure them to succeed. They buy struggling companies to load them with more debt before they collapse in order to make a large profit.

Bain is simply an economic parasite. It sucks all the cash out of struggling businesses, kills the business then moves on to the next victim.

But I got a feeling Rush and his right wing hate radio pals have nothing to worry about as long as they continue to successfully keep the brainwashed masses under control to vote Republican. But if they begin to slip in their effectiveness they will be gone.

I remember Grandma talking about Father Coughlin back in the 30s and 40s letting his anti-Semitism run wild until Pearl Harbor woke up the masses and led to the Vatican ordering him to STFU and get off the radio.

Rush will go off the rails when the Blue Wave hits in 2018 and he’ll find himself back where he was in Pittsburgh in the early 70s—a third rate DJ named Jeff Christie who got kicked off of WIXZ…

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wheat-dogg  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:47:51am

re: #115 The Vicious Babushka

It reminds me of ME 50 years ago with my classmates marching and protesting against the Vietnam War.

A student tweeted that her math teacher told her that gun control was a complex issue that the girl was too young to understand, and that the protests were pointless. I told her her math teacher better not be a boomer, and he/she wasn’t maybe the teacher should watch Ken Burn’s Vietnam documentary.

Maybe the student antiwar protests did not directly end the Vietnam War, but the pressure those protests put on the adults certainly sped up the process, especially after Kent State.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:48:07am

re: #118 Joe Bacon 🌹

Bain is simply an economic parasite. It sucks all the cash out of struggling businesses, kills the business then moves on to the next victim.

We have created an economic system in which these people can profit from doing harm.
We worship “job creators” but companies like Bain are anything but that.

And we have a ethical system that tells us that anyone who is making money must somehow be more hardworking or smarter or even morally superior to the rest of us.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:48:48am

re: #117 Barefoot Grin

That’s what came to mind for me, too (the protests, I mean; I was in kindergarten about then). Or if he wants China, maybe Tiananmen Square in 1989.

Things did not turn out well for those students, however. Most did not come home.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:49:53am

re: #118 Joe Bacon 🌹

Rush will go off the rails when the Blue Wave hits in 2018 and he’ll find himself back where he was in Pittsburgh in the early 70s—a third rate DJ named Jeff Christie who got kicked off of WIXZ…

He will always have a dedicated hard core of followers, and he will be able to sell advertising time on his shows to reach them, so he will be financially successful. But his ability to influence anyone outside his constituency might begin to wane.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:50:32am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have created an economic system in which these people can profit from doing harm.
We worship “job creators” but companies like Bain are anything but that.

And we have a ethical system that tells us that anyone who is making money must somehow be more hardworking or smarter or even morally superior to the rest of us.

Just wait until the investment bankers cook up some more mortgage derivatives to make bank on before they bring the entire economic system to a grinding halt — again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:51:26am

re: #123 wheat-dogg

Just wait until the investment bankers cook up some more mortgage derivatives to make bank on before they bring the entire economic system to a grinding halt — again.

We have done little to change the conditions that created the last boom-and-bust cycle.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:53:52am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have done little to change the conditions that created the last boom-and-bust cycle.

Congress just handed over the lockpicks to the big banks so they can do the Big Short again!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:55:38am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have done little to change the conditions that created the last boom-and-bust cycle.

Supposedly the guy (or gal, wtf knows) who created Bitcoin did it as a response to the 2006-2008 financial crisis. Some bankers see Bitcoin as a threat to their business model, and want to kill it. Others see it as a tiger to ride. And the US government naturally wants to regulate it so it doesn’t upset the apple cart.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:56:02am

re: #121 wheat-dogg

Things did not turn out well for those students, however. Most did not come home.

True. Or if any did (from what I understand, the bulk of the killing was in side streets where workers had come to lend support to the students) they have learned to keep their heads down now.

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:56:24am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have created an economic system in which these people can profit from doing harm.
We worship “job creators” but companies like Bain are anything but that.

And we have a ethical system that tells us that anyone who is making money must somehow be more hardworking or smarter or even morally superior to the rest of us.

Bingo!

We judge everything on how much money you have. We do not care how you made it.

And we don’t have any room for people that do great things but remain low on the earnings.

We do not value values.

Many times people mock people that do things they love but make very little money at it.

And that in many ways brought us Trump.

It shows how empty this country can be. A lot of people would say they hate Trump, but I bet many of them would jump at the chance to be him, even if it went against everything they were taught and what they have inside.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:57:45am

re: #126 wheat-dogg

Supposedly the guy (or gal, wtf knows) who created Bitcoin did it as a response to the 2006-2008 financial crisis. Some bankers see Bitcoin as a threat to their business model, and want to kill it. Others see it as a tiger to ride. And the US government naturally wants to regulate it so it doesn’t upset the apple cart.

Every government does, for one of two reasons:
1. It threatens their control.
2. It’s not backed by anything, but it if it were to become a significant currency, it’s collapse would rock economies. It’s the modern version of tulips.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 7:59:56am

re: #129 Belafon

Every government does, for one of two reasons:
1. It threatens their control.
2. It’s not backed by anything, but it if it were to become a significant currency, it’s collapse would rock economies. It’s the modern version of tulips.

The Dutch tulip craze is a good analogy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:01:18am

re: #128 ObserverArt

Bingo!

We judge everything on how much money you have. We do not care how you made it.

And we don’t have any room for people that do great things but remain low on the earnings.

We do not value values.

Many times people mock people that do things they love but make very little money at it.

And that in many ways brought us Trump.

It shows how empty this country can be. A lot of people would say they hate Trump, but I bet many of them would jump at the chance to be him, even if it went against everything they were taught and what they have inside.

Conservatives like to talk about the family values moral and ethical value of hard work, but what good are they when our system does not allow hard working people to support a family?

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Dr. Matt  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:04:16am

Did anyone hear the SiriusXM interview with Shiva Ayyadurai on Michael Smerconish about 45 minutes ago? FFS. He sounds as much as an insecure jerk as he comes off in print and on his obnoxious website.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:05:08am

re: #127 Barefoot Grin

True. Or if any did (from what I understand, the bulk of the killing was in side streets where workers had come to lend support to the students) they have learned to keep their heads down now.

I’ve read that the initial estimates of the number killed or injured were wrong, and the numbers were much, much higher. It’s not something the government is willing to discuss — even now — and we may never know the final tally. But the parents of those kids have managed to piece together enough information to suggest there were tens of thousands of students and other protesters killed by the PLA. According to a friend in a provincial government post, Deng Xiaoping’s alleged order to open fire on the students is the main reason his face will never be on Chinese currency. Too many people remember his involvement.

But you’re right. Self-censorship in China is now very normal. All of us (foreigners included) watch what we are saying and to whom, and the government has made it very clear that any anti-government rallies will be put down swiftly and efficiently.

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:07:38am

re: #113 Belafon

The problem with Bain is that they don’t buy struggling companies to restructure them to succeed. They buy struggling companies to load them with more debt before they collapse in order to make a large profit.

precisely

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wheat-dogg  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:09:09am

re: #129 Belafon

Every government does, for one of two reasons:
1. It threatens their control.
2. It’s not backed by anything, but it if it were to become a significant currency, it’s collapse would rock economies. It’s the modern version of tulips.

The dollar/euro/yuan/pound/yen collapsing would do the same. Bitcoin capitalization right now is but a tiny fraction of the world’s available currencies, and even as a proponent of the technology, I doubt it will ever become a major player in the world economy. Cultists believe it will replace all fiat currencies in the future, but they’re frankly nuts.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:10:14am

Watching CNN now (there must be better ways to use spring break) and it’s breaking that US is finally applying in a more serious way sanctions against Russia starting with the 13 Russians indicted by Mueller (list includes oligarchs). Taken with Haley’s speech at UNSC yesterday, interesting indications that gov’t is moving out ahead of Trump.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:11:56am

Moment of weirdness here. I got a LinkedIn connection request from … Seth Rich.

But not THAT Seth Rich. This one works for Global News Asia. Still, it made me wonder if it was some kind of macabre phishing exploit.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:12:02am

Whats the over/under on Mnuchin getting the ax?

Trump Administration Sanctions Russians for Election Meddling and Cyberattacks

“The administration is confronting and countering malign Russian cyberactivity, including their attempted interference in U.S. elections, destructive cyberattacks, and intrusions targeting critical infrastructure,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said in a statement. “These targeted sanctions are a part of a broader effort to address the ongoing nefarious attacks emanating from Russia.”

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A Mom Anon  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:12:38am

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This fucking moron. No, not like Hitler
Youth, more like White Rose Society Student Resistance. Read a fucking book.

I’ve lost all patience for stupid and mean.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:13:18am

re: #135 wheat-dogg

The dollar/euro/yuan/pound/yen collapsing would do the same. Bitcoin capitalization right now is but a tiny fraction of the world’s available currencies, and even as a proponent of the technology, I doubt it will ever become a major player in the world economy. Cultists believe it will replace all fiat currencies in the future, but they’re frankly nuts.

The difference, though, is that the only way the dollar will collapse is if the US collapses, as in no country left. Thus, while the US exists, the dollar will be worth something in the US. The same with those other countries. Yes, the Depression shows what can happen when a currency gets weak and inflation takes hold, but even then there are things governments can do.

Bitcoin has no such backing.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:13:26am
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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:14:45am

re: #123 wheat-dogg

Just wait until the investment bankers cook up some more mortgage derivatives to make bank on before they bring the entire economic system to a grinding halt — again.

what bain does, in a sense is like what happened to mortgage market thinking years ago.
at one time, the originator evaluated the borrower and his ability to make the payments back to the originator, over 20 or 30 years or whatever.

then they got the brilliant idea to originate, take the upfront fees, and sell the mortgage and the collection risk

decouple the collection risk from the original lender and their incentive changes from long term prudence and attention to merely closing the loan

derivatives make it worse, and mask the decoupled risk further

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William Lewis  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:17:04am

re: #121 wheat-dogg

Things did not turn out well for those students, however. Most did not come home.

I am reminded of the rumors that floated in the Army, when I attended Intel school during Gulf 1, that before they moved on the square, there were pitched battles between division sized elements to clear the path for loyal forces. I was never high enough to see anything yes or no on it but it was in the plausible category to me.

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:17:11am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Conservatives like to talk about the family values moral and ethical value of hard work, but what good are they when our system does not allow hard working people to support a family?

as i said yesterday re the rising tide
everyone doesnt start in a boat
and others are actively and deliberately trying to wreck yours

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wheat-dogg  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:17:30am

re: #140 Belafon

The difference, though, is that the only way the dollar will collapse is if the US collapses, as in no country left. Thus, while the US exists, the dollar will be worth something in the US. The same with those other countries. Yes, the Depression shows what can happen when a currency gets weak and inflation takes hold, but even then there are things governments can do.

Bitcoin has no such backing.

True. I’m not arguing that point. Bitcoin fanatics, though, are as loony about their chosen currency as gold bugs and silver bugs are about theirs.

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Jay C  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:17:55am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Their proven tactics of attack, defame and deflect are somehow just not working against these media-savvy school children who have put a sympathetic human face on the issue of gun control.

And wingnuts’ gibberings about the Hitlerjugend or Khmer Rouge don’t really help: the #NeverAgain movement looks to be one of those rare events in American political life: a truly spontaneous organizing with a decentralized, if consistent leadership. I’m sure one of the things that probably gives cranks like May the serious willies is the realization that the majority of the kids walking out of their schools in protest are likely to dismiss him and his ilk for the uptight authoritarian assholes they are, citations of “God” notwithstanding…

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:22:46am

currently, because what a brilliant ending rhyme:

My baby’s a superstar
And I love her like I do my guitar
I don’t care what they say about another woman
I don’t care who she are

YouTube

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wheat-dogg  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:23:03am

re: #143 William Lewis

I am reminded of the rumors that floated in the Army, when I attended Intel school during Gulf 1, that before they moved on the square, there were pitched battles between division sized elements to clear the path for loyal forces. I was never high enough to see anything yes or no on it but it was in the plausible category to me.

The People’s Republic of Amnesia, written by Louisa Lim, corroborates those reports. There were many soldiers and officers who refused to open fire on fellow citizens, something that was supposedly contrary to the mission of the PLA, and who themselves were either shot or imprisoned by more loyal PLA members.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:23:08am

re: #146 Jay C

And wingnuts’ gibberings about the Hitlerjugend or Khmer Rouge don’t really help: the #NeverAgain movement looks to be one of those rare events in American political life: a truly spontaneous organizing with a decentralized, if consistent leadership. I’m sure one of the things that probably gives cranks like May the serious willies is the realization that the majority of the kids walking out of their schools in protest are likely to dismiss him and his ilk for the uptight authoritarian assholes they are, citations of “God” notwithstanding…

I really, really hope I can live to be a hundred (2049), just to see this generation take charge and the Donald Mays, Alex Joneses, and Rush Limbaughs of the world consigned to the dustbin of history.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:25:11am

re: #149 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I really, really hope I can live to be a hundred (2049), just to see this generation take charge and the Donald Mays, Alex Joneses, and Rush Limbaugh of the world consigned to the dustbin of history.

I’ll settle to live long enough to see all three of those idiots dead and forgotten.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:29:33am

Time for bed here. See you all later.

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gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:33:26am
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Skip Intro  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:36:31am

Sent to a school in my area yesterday.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:37:31am

re: #153 Skip Intro

Sent to a school in my area yesterday.

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What the fuck is wrong with these people?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:42:00am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:43:51am

re: #153 Skip Intro

Sent to a school in my area yesterday.

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Who the F is “we” supposed to be?! JFC.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:47:41am

re: #156 GlutenFreeJesus

Who the F is “we” supposed to be?! JFC.

He’s got a turd in his pocket?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:48:51am

I saw a headline on an NPR FB post, “On The West Coast, Ports Brace For Steel Tariffs”, and the picture is of stacked steel, and all I could think of was…

”And now, here’s a timely reminder from your friends at the Monongahela Metal Foundry. You know having unexpected guests see your dull steel ingots is an embarrassing prospect for everyone. Don’t let unexpected company think you’re a person with corroded ingots….”

Brought to you by Einbinder Flypaper, the brand you’ve gradually grown to trust over the course of generations….

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retired cynic  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:49:21am

re: #128 ObserverArt

Bingo!

We judge everything on how much money you have. We do not care how you made it.

And we don’t have any room for people that do great things but remain low on the earnings.

We do not value values.

Many times people mock people that do things they love but make very little money at it.

And that in many ways brought us Trump.

It shows how empty this country can be. A lot of people would say they hate Trump, but I bet many of them would jump at the chance to be him, even if it went against everything they were taught and what they have inside.

A friend noted about my husband: Everyone wanted to be X (another important person in his field), but everyone wanted to be my husband’s friend.

A quote to treasure.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:52:28am

Looking at guns with scientific eyes (yanno, numbers an’ all).

Why Are White Men Stockpiling Guns?
blogs.scientificamerican.com

Spoiler: It’s not one reason.

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Frenchy  Mar 15, 2018 • 8:59:49am

re: #128 ObserverArt

Yep, and this sort of mentality, money above ALL else, is behind many of our country’s most serious ills…everything from the cost of healthcare, the gradual erosion of our education system, the food supply, etc.

How did it get to be this bad though?

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Weaselone  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:00:59am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

Sounds like the dude’s need to take up role playing, Warhammer, or you know get involved and do something productive for their communities.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:02:28am

Where Trump be if he didn’t luck out thanks to his dad?

Yelling incoherently on a street corner?

Held in a mental institution?

Being the creepy old guy in the corner of the seniors home?

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retired cynic  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:02:42am
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plansbandc  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:02:53am

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:03:25am

re: #162 Weaselone

Sounds like the dude’s need to take up role playing, Warhammer, or you know get involved and do something productive for their communities.

Really starting to believe that the difference between the displaced dude who hoards guns and the dude who builds Habitat houses is laid down somewhere before grades 1-3.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:04:35am

re: #166 Decatur Deb

Really starting to believe that the difference between the displaced dude who hoards guns and the dude who builds Habitat houses is laid down somewhere before grades 1-3.

I suspect it gets laid down about the same time as their mothers.

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Skip Intro  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:05:42am

re: #156 GlutenFreeJesus

Who the F is “we” supposed to be?! JFC.

The NRA?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:05:52am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

Looking at guns with scientific eyes (yanno, numbers an’ all).

Why Are White Men Stockpiling Guns?
blogs.scientificamerican.com

Spoiler: It’s not one reason.

Basically it boils down to finding themselves increasingly in the same boat as everyone else has always been.

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ipsos  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:05:55am

re: #154 Eclectic Cyborg

What the fuck is wrong with these people?

Maybe it’s because I just watched the Mr. Rogers special on PBS again…but I’m pretty sure I can easily divide the 99% of the good and bad stuff in this world with a very simple test…

“Would Mr. Rogers have approved of what’s going on here?”

Mr. Rogers would NOT have approved of this particular post.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:06:43am

re: #167 Blind Frog Belly White

I suspect it gets laid down about the same time as their mothers.

That’s probably a component, but I’m leaving room for cultural working-over.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:07:18am

re: #168 Skip Intro

The NRA?

I thought that too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:07:21am

re: #144 dangerman

as i said yesterday re the rising tide
everyone doesnt start in a boat
and others are actively and deliberately trying to wreck yours

and don’t forget the invisible hand!

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Skip Intro  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:07:42am

re: #164 retired cynic

Larry Kudlow is the Worst. (from WaPo)

So he’s a perfect fit for Trump. Funny that no matter how many times these people are 100% wrong about things they purport to be experts on it never hurts their career.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:08:10am

Have to drop another Of Monsters And Men video:

Of Monsters And Men - Empire (Official Lyric Video)

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:10:26am

re: #169 Blind Frog Belly White

Basically it boils down to finding themselves increasingly in the same boat as everyone else has always been.

There should be a time-curve at play, then. Would like to see stats on age at purchase of the second and fifth gun.

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William Lewis  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:10:47am

re: #166 Decatur Deb

Really starting to believe that the difference between the displaced dude who hoards guns and the dude who builds Habitat houses is laid down somewhere before grades 1-3.

Starts there but get’s reinforced by what he hears - or doesn’t hear - on Sunday’s I think. How many preachers emphasize 1 Tim chapter 2 promoting keeping women in their place vs chapter 6 saying that riches, especially eagerness to gain them, are a trap? There are other even less subtle manipulations that occur in all churches (saying this as a believer, I’ll add) to direct people’s behaviors. Non-church entities using religious sounding language (I’ma looking at you Faux News) is perhaps the least subtle & most effective manipulation of them all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:11:52am

re: #176 Decatur Deb

There should be a time-curve at play, then. Would like to see stats on age at purchase of the second and fifth gun.

I am like that with beers: if I put a brake on the second beer, I am likely to get out of the bar relatively sober…but after the second one goes down, the fifth is not far away…

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:13:38am

re: #177 William Lewis

Starts there but get’s reinforced by what he hears - or doesn’t hear - on Sunday’s I think. How many preachers emphasize 1 Tim chapter 2 promoting keeping women in their place vs chapter 6 saying that riches, especially eagerness to gain them, are a trap? There are other even less subtle manipulations that occur in all churches (saying this as a believer, I’ll add) to direct people’s behaviors. Non-church entities using religious sounding language (I’ma looking at you Faux News) is perhaps the least subtle & most effective manipulation of them all.

The article hits the religious angle, with a counter-stereotypical statement that religion actually makes gun hoarding less common. The real value is going to be in the papers, like the Harvard study, cited there.

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:13:55am

re: #161 Frenchy

Yep, and this sort of mentality, money above ALL else, is behind many of our country’s most serious ills…everything from the cost of healthcare, the gradual erosion of our education system, the food supply, etc.

How did it get to be this bad though?

I’d say it all goes to the core of man and some of our earliest morals.

Try the Seven Deadly Sins. Even though they are associated with religion, I believe they hold true for everyone.

Pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath and sloth.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:17:05am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:18:04am

re: #181 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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She didn’t support it either way… so, sure Dana. Go with that.

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whitebeach  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:18:50am

re: #180 ObserverArt

Pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath and sloth.

Which would make a great subtitle for biography whose main title is “Donald Trump.”

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William Lewis  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:19:06am

re: #179 Decatur Deb

The article hits the religious angle, with a counter-stereotypical statement that religion actually make gun hoarding less common. The real value is going to be in the papers, like the Harvard study, cited there.

I read that and wonder if there is an element of those dragged to church at the local “non-denominational” church and then go away after adulthood vs those who stay in church?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:20:54am

re: #184 William Lewis

I read that and wonder if there is an element of those dragged to church at the local “non-denominational” church and then go away after adulthood vs those who stay in church?

Since Congress the NRA has kneecapped research funding, we’ll be a long time finding out.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:20:54am

re: #184 William Lewis

I read that and wonder if there is an element of those dragged to church at the local “non-denominational” church and then go away after adulthood vs those who stay in church?

Ultimately it boils down to whether these people think they should be in control. A lot of religions emphasize that the deity is in control. But, if a person believes they should be in control, then they must maintain that control. Hence, beating their wives, buying guns.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:20:55am

re: #181 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Spinning so fast she could power a small village.

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Skip Intro  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:21:03am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:22:30am

Okay how do you add icons to your username? Just update it and use the emojis from your keyboard?

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:22:59am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and don’t forget the invisible hand!

or this

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Weaselone  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:23:52am

re: #177 William Lewis

Article suggests the opposite might be the case. Makes sense from a certain perspective. Being part of an organized religion does offer other outlets to derive meaning from. There’s also the reality that old white guys who drop their SS checks into the offering plates or the mailbox for the TV preacher on Sundays don’t have as much money to spend on guns.

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:24:17am

re: #180 ObserverArt

I’d say it all goes to the core of man and some of our earliest morals.

Try the Seven Deadly Sins. Even though they are associated with religion, I believe they hold true for everyone.

Pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath and sloth.

stock brokers?
law firm?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:24:55am

re: #181 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

NRA’s Dana Loesch tries to say #NationalWalkoutDay was to honor the dead — not a call for gun control

It was. But it was also an attempt to avoid having to honor more dead.

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:25:35am

re: #185 Decatur Deb

Since Congress the NRA has kneecapped research funding, we’ll be a long time finding out.

they claim there’s so much private research going on why should the government pay to duplicate it

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:26:02am

re: #183 whitebeach

Which would make a great subtitle for biography whose main title is “Donald Trump.”

Yeah, he is the poster child for all of them.

And yet, as Joe B says…the preacher pimps are all in.

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Skip Intro  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:27:50am

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:28:10am

re: #186 Belafon

Ultimately it boils down to whether these people think they should be in control. A lot of religions emphasize that the deity is in control. But, if a person believes they should be in control, then they must maintain that control. Hence, beating their wives, buying guns.

Your word “control” and the article’s “independence” probably overlap a great deal.

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:29:16am

re: #187 Eclectic Cyborg

Spinning so fast she could power a small village.

I was wondering how she stays upright instead of staggering around drunk-like from it all.

The amusing thing is she is only playing to the NRA and they don’t need the show. She doesn’t realize she is completely wasting her time with 70+% of America.

I think that defines her crazy. But we all know that. Dana is not aware.

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gwangung  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:29:35am

re: #194 dangerman

they claim there’s so much private research going on why should the government pay to duplicate it

If there was, they’d continually cite it.

Since they don’t, there isn’t.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:31:21am

re: #194 dangerman

they claim there’s so much private research going on why should the government pay to duplicate it

The government does not have a vested financial interest in the content and nature of the research.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:31:50am

Of course. The GOP can’t alienate their main voting bloc.

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electrotek  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:32:25am

Looks like I’m going to end up ruffling a few feathers with wingnuts tomorrow on my FB when I put up a scathing post about the 50th anniversary of My Lai.

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:33:09am

re: #190 dangerman

or this

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I always thought of God as the omnipotent thumb that pushes down to pressure or squish the offender.

But the Python Big Foot works as well.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:34:11am

re: #181 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I though the national walkout day was the greatest worst terrorism by crisis actors paid by George Soros ever.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:34:24am

re: #202 electrotek

Looks like I’m going to end up ruffling a few feathers with wingnuts tomorrow on my FB when I put up a scathing post about the 50th anniversary of My Lai.

you might wanna add this:

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:35:48am

re: #201 DodgerFan1988

Of course. The GOP can’t alienate their main voting bloc.

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Still won’t concede that tomorrow belongs to SGT Schultz, there.

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electrotek  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:36:56am

re: #205 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

you might wanna add this:

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Excellent, will do. I still believe Calley should have been executed by a firing squad.

I ended up writing it last night as a rough draft lol and I’m at 3 pages, sheesh. For someone that has no historical link to SE Asia, I sure tend to get very emotional and passionate about this.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:39:51am

re: #202 electrotek

Looks like I’m going to end up ruffling a few feathers with wingnuts tomorrow on my FB when I put up a scathing post about the 50th anniversary of My Lai.

But but LT William Calley and his men are American heroes! True patriots! They defended our freedom! They should have been awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor!

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:39:51am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

Looking at guns with scientific eyes (yanno, numbers an’ all).

Why Are White Men Stockpiling Guns?
blogs.scientificamerican.com

Spoiler: It’s not one reason.

Well, it’s one reason.

FOX is making them scared and angry.

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electrotek  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:42:20am

re: #208 DodgerFan1988

But but LT William Calley and his men are American heroes! True patriots! They defended our freedom! They should have been awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor!

That makes me gag.

These are the same fuckwits who incur high blood pressure over the mere mention of Jane Fonda, yet cheer a scumbag like Calley.

Last I checked, how many did Jane Fonda kill? Oh wait, ZERO. Yet she receives the lion share of hatred to this day by not only misguided Vietnam War veterans, but also by idiots who weren’t even born in 1973, let alone born in the decade. Her photo op was beyond stupid, no one can dispute that. But that still didn’t kill anybody.

And quite frankly, the mass slaughter of civilians should be more revolting than a mere photo op over some anti-aircraft artillery.

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retired cynic  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:43:51am

re: #185 Decatur Deb

Since Congress the NRA has kneecapped research funding, we’ll be a long time finding out.

That is the first thing a Democratic (or sane?) administration and congress should do: remove that rule and bring science to bear on the problem, so we can see the actual extent of the damage.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:46:05am
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electrotek  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:46:46am

I think we can agree that Hugh Thompson Jr. is a true American hero, not Chris Kyle.

Saving innocent civilians from being massacred is something that should be highlighted for all of eternity.

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retired cynic  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:48:23am

Hey, A Mom Anon, I haven’t heard anything for a couple of days. How are things progressing (at least I hope they are!)?

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A Mom Anon  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:48:32am

re: #211 retired cynic
And any congressional asshole who has a problem with it needs to have a photo array of what these weapons do to the human body. In public, and then be forced to answer why this is REALLY so fucking important to them.

I just can’t, and I’m totally out of evens with these motherfuckers.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:48:34am

The next special election is in Arizona on April 24th to replace Trent Franks. The Democratic nominee is Dr. Hiral Tipirneni, who is running on healthcare and

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:49:21am

re: #202 electrotek

Looks like I’m going to end up ruffling a few feathers with wingnuts tomorrow on my FB when I put up a scathing post about the 50th anniversary of My Lai.

Trivia: The judge who overturned 2LT Calley’s sentence was the same one who sentenced an 88-year old nun to 6 months in federal prison for protesting at the School of the Americas (Ft. Benning). He expected her to cop to probation. She didn’t.

nytimes.com

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retired cynic  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:49:34am

re: #216 Belafon

The next special election is in Arizona on April 24th to replace Trent Franks. The Democratic nominee is Dr. Hiral Tipirneni, who is running on healthcare and

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I don’t know about the rest of her profile, but I’d vote for her on that alone.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:50:07am

re: #209 Renaissance_Man

Well, it’s one reason.

FOX is making them scared and angry.

It goes deeper.

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electrotek  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:50:12am

re: #217 Decatur Deb

Trivia: The judge who overturned 2LT Calley’s sentence was the same one who sentenced an 88-year old nun to 6 months in federal prison for protesting at the School of the Americas (Ft. Benning). He expected her to cop to probation. She didn’t.

nytimes.com

WTF? No way? I’ll be sure to add that to my scathing post.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:50:43am

re: #212 Ace-o-aces

Our deficit with Canada is $12.1B, which, in terms of the US economy is losing loose change.

Our trade to them is $266B. Our deficit is 5%. wow. I’m underwhelmed.

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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:51:55am

The replies are asinine at best, as people think the GOP wont lose any seats.

One of the reasons the GOP gained as much as they did in 2010 is that the Democrats ran from defending Obamacare instead of showing how it would improve things. They wobbled and weaved their way and lost the message.

Those losses also compounded into 2012 with redistricting that continues to this day.

A key difference? Trump is historically awful and has no coattails.

Obama was popular and scandal free, while Trump’s going to drag the entire GOP into Trumpworld’s Russiagate.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:53:11am

re: #220 electrotek

WTF? No way? I’ll be sure to add that to my scathing post.

J Robert Elliot, a piece of work:

en.wikipedia.org

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scottslemmons  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:55:20am

re: #222 lawhawk

Obama was popular and scandal free, while Trump’s going to drag the entire GOP into Trumpworld’s Russiagate.

Hopefully literally. It would please me enormously to see every Republican politician, operative, strategist, and pundit jailed for treason.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:56:45am

Jimmy Kimmel is a national treasure. The late night gift that keeps on giving. Last night, Kimmel revealed he’d gone on a shopping spree at the Trump Organization’s online store. He wanted to see how seriously the Trump family was taking the “America first” challenge Donald Trump has made to American companies, demanding more companies begin making merchandise here in the U.S.A again. Kimmel pulled one piece of merchandise after the other from the box and read each label and surprise! Not one single item was made in the u.sa. More than that, he found two items were missing the federally required country of origin designation. That was enough for the late night host to file a federal complaint against the company. If federal officials agree with Kimmel’s assertion, the Trump Organization could be fined $500,000 per offense.

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electrotek  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:57:21am

re: #223 Decatur Deb

J Robert Elliot, a piece of work:

en.wikipedia.org

Dear God, why?

The stories I’ve read from survivors, the testimonials from Hugh Thompson Jr., the photos of the aftermath, how the fuck could anyone rationalize this? Just because it was men in our uniform that it’s okay to commit atrocities on this scale?

I just can’t wrap my head around how anyone could make excuses by saying “war is Hell” or “they were frustrated with being there”.

This is the reason why Vietnam War veterans did not receive a warm welcome after they came back from serving in SE Asia. Instead of placing blame on Jane Fonda or the antiwar activists, it would be wise to place blame on Lt. Calley and the pieces of trash who committed an unspeakable act of barbarity that caused the tide to turn.

To make matters worse, there were photos of American soldiers actually slaughtering the villagers, but they were destroyed.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 15, 2018 • 9:58:08am

re: #214 retired cynic

He’s just had his 6th surgery and is in recovery right now. They are talking about sending him home with a wound vacuum and I am terrified. They’re supposed to assign a home health care nurse to come a few times a week, but I am really afraid he’s not ready.

I have discovered I have no fucking friends either. All those thoughts and prayers and bullshit about helping me if I needed something? Oh it is to laugh. I need help with an overgrown yard and all of the sudden those offers to help dried up. Thoughts and prayers aren’t going to plant a garden, clean up tons of tree branches of cut the grass. The Kid can’t do it because his dad never bothered to show him how to use it. My husband helps people all the damned time, often to the neglect of our home. Fuck all these assholes. No one has even come to see him in the hospital except for 2 guys he used to work with. I’m done being nice. It’s been 20 days and 6 surgeries so far. No one fucking cares.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:01:43am

re: #226 electrotek

Dear God, why?

The stories I’ve read from survivors, the testimonials from Hugh Thompson Jr., the photos of the aftermath, how the fuck could anyone rationalize this? Just because it was men in our uniform that it’s okay to commit atrocities on this scale?

I just can’t wrap my head around how anyone could make excuses by saying “war is Hell” or “they were frustrated with being there”.

This is the reason why Vietnam War veterans did not receive a warm welcome after they came back from serving in SE Asia. Instead of placing blame on Jane Fonda or the antiwar activists, it would be wise to place blame on Lt. Calley and the pieces of trash who committed an unspeakable act of barbarity that caused the tide to turn.

To make matters worse, there were photos of American soldiers actually slaughtering the villagers, but they were destroyed.

FIL was a 30-year veteran, with tank combat In N Africa, Sicily, Anzio, and Pusan. He was a full-bore Archie Bunker who thought we should have a strongman “like George Patton” in charge.

Mai Lai broke him.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:01:57am

re: #213 electrotek

I think we can agree that Hugh Thompson Jr. is a true American hero, not Chris Kyle.

Saving innocent civilians from being massacred is something that should be highlighted for all of eternity.

Don’t forget Chris Kyle fantasized about killing hundreds of black “looters” in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:02:16am

re: #212 Ace-o-aces

Canada has 1/10 the US population. They don’t need as much stuff as we do.

they also sell us oil

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electrotek  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:02:53am

re: #229 DodgerFan1988

Don’t forget Chris Kyle fantasized about killing hundreds of black “looters” in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina.

Seriously, fuck him and all of his mouth-breather fanboys and fangirls.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:03:28am

re: #222 lawhawk

Obama lost 63 House seats in 2010. How many will Trump lose?

That is a fine piece of pre-emptive spin: anything less than 63 seats is a net win for the GOP…

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:04:13am

re: #226 electrotek

Dear God, why?

The stories I’ve read from survivors, the testimonials from Hugh Thompson Jr., the photos of the aftermath, how the fuck could anyone rationalize this? Just because it was men in our uniform that it’s okay to commit atrocities on this scale?

I just can’t wrap my head around how anyone could make excuses by saying “war is Hell” or “they were frustrated with being there”.

This is the reason why Vietnam War veterans did not receive a warm welcome after they came back from serving in SE Asia. Instead of placing blame on Jane Fonda or the antiwar activists, it would be wise to place blame on Lt. Calley and the pieces of trash who committed an unspeakable act of barbarity that caused the tide to turn.

To make matters worse, there were photos of American soldiers actually slaughtering the villagers, but they were destroyed.

We firebombed cities during WW2 as well.

The reason Vietnam soldiers didn’t get a warm welcome was because we didn’t win in Vietnam. We love a winner. When they don’t win, it doesn’t matter if it was an unwinnable war, or a poorly planned one, the soldiers lost it.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:05:36am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is a fine piece of pre-emptive spin: anything less than 63 seats is a net win for the GOP…

When we take the House, Trump can comfort himself with that thought, like his thinking that Lamb is just like him.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:05:49am

re: #213 electrotek

I think we can agree that Hugh Thompson Jr. is a true American hero, not Chris Kyle.

Saving innocent civilians from being massacred is something that should be highlighted for all of eternity.

How he was treated was horrible and shows you how full of shit many are.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:06:44am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they also sell us oil

“oil from Canada, gold from Mexico, geese from the neighbors’ backyard [boom boom]”

Sorry, I got triggered….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:07:33am

re: #236 Barefoot Grin

“oil from Canada, gold from Mexico, geese from the neighbors’ backyard [boom boom]”

Sorry, I got triggered….

Big upding from an old Firesign Theater fan

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:07:38am
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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:08:06am

re: #210 electrotek

That makes me gag.

These are the same fuckwits who incur high blood pressure over the mere mention of Jane Fonda, yet cheer a scumbag like Calley.

Last I checked, how many did Jane Fonda kill? Oh wait, ZERO. Yet she receives the lion share of hatred to this day by not only misguided Vietnam War veterans, but also by idiots who weren’t even born in 1973, let alone born in the decade. Her photo op was beyond stupid, no one can dispute that. But that still didn’t kill anybody.

And quite frankly, the mass slaughter of civilians should be more revolting than a mere photo op over some anti-aircraft artillery.

Same folks that said the students at Kent State had it coming.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:09:24am
Barron Trump’s school signs open letter to President demanding action on gun laws

cnn.com

Ooooops……I don’t think the Secret Service would allow an armed teacher in Barron’s classroom anyways?

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Dave In Austin  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:10:12am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Bozo’s…… Bus!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:11:13am

re: #241 Dave In Austin

Bozo’s…… Bus!!

How can you be in two places at once when you’re really nowhere at all?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:11:25am

re: #207 electrotek

Excellent, will do. I still believe Calley should have been executed by a firing squad.

I ended up writing it last night as a rough draft lol and I’m at 3 pages, sheesh. For someone that has no historical link to SE Asia, I sure tend to get very emotional and passionate about this.

The problem, for the Nixon administration, was that a huge number of others were at least equally guilty. The company commander, Captain Medina, was in the thick of it. Besides Calley’s 1st platoon, 2nd platoon (2LT Stephen Brooks) killed upward of 80 civilians, while 3rd platoon (2LT Jeffrey Lacross) killed at least 10 despite being held in reserve through most of the operation. The battalion commander, LTC Barker, observed the whole operation from his chopper and the Division commander, MG Koster, flew over while it was going on. Both claimed they saw nothing untoward. Yet, Hugh Thompson and his crew, who just happened to fly by during an unrelated mission, were so alarmed at what they saw that they landed and intervened. Nixon was not willing to punish all of them, so essentially none were punished.

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electrotek  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:12:10am

I don’t want this to be an indictment of the entire US military, because it should never be a blanket statement to condemn every American servicemember. Not every Vietnam War veteran supported what happened in My Lai and were just as horrified about it as any of us here. I just believe we should hold our own accountable to the full extent of the law possible and prosecute war criminals as pariahs as they should be.

IMO, Jane Fonda wasn’t a disgrace to America; it’s Calley and his ever-growing legion of apologists who refuse to condemn cold-blooded murder.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:12:44am

re: #243 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The problem, for the Nixon administration, was that a huge number of others were at least equally guilty.

This happens in any top-down authoritarian structure. Those above have to take responsibility for their underlings and are generally not prepared to do so, so they cover up.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:14:14am

re: #217 Decatur Deb

Maj. Milton F. Mariani, an Army public affairs officer at the school, said: ”Over the 54 years that the School of the Americas was open, 61,000 students came through its classrooms. There are some unfortunately that came through here for what could have been a two-week or yearlong course, that went on years later to commit crimes against the societies of their countries.

“We hardly knew any of these would-be dictators. They were volunteers, coffee boys here.”

/

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JordanRules  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:14:31am
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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:14:55am

re: #227 A Mom Anon

He’s just had his 6th surgery and is in recovery right now. They are talking about sending him home with a wound vacuum and I am terrified. They’re supposed to assign a home health care nurse to come a few times a week, but I am really afraid he’s not ready.

I have discovered I have no fucking friends either. All those thoughts and prayers and bullshit about helping me if I needed something? Oh it is to laugh. I need help with an overgrown yard and all of the sudden those offers to help dried up. Thoughts and prayers aren’t going to plant a garden, clean up tons of tree branches of cut the grass. The Kid can’t do it because his dad never bothered to show him how to use it. My husband helps people all the damned time, often to the neglect of our home. Fuck all these assholes. No one has even come to see him in the hospital except for 2 guys he used to work with. I’m done being nice. It’s been 20 days and 6 surgeries so far. No one fucking cares.

I wish I was in the area…as I surely could help with things like lawn care. Dang Mom, I feel helpless.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:17:41am

“Please pay no attention to the small, inconsequential, mushroom cloud”

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:18:11am

You guys hear about Dylann Roof’s sister? Threats to students walking out yesterday and saying only black students will walk out.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:18:36am

re: #227 A Mom Anon

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:19:02am

re: #250 HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)

You guys hear about Dylann Roof’s sister? Threats to students walking out yesterday and saying only black students will walk out.

Yep: #26.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:20:01am

re: #252 Belafon

Yep: #26.

Oops sorry. Man. Messed up.

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electrotek  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:20:21am

Paul Hardcastle was a genius

Paul Hardcastle - 19 (The Final Story)

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:20:34am

re: #227 A Mom Anon

He’s just had his 6th surgery and is in recovery right now. They are talking about sending him home with a wound vacuum and I am terrified. They’re supposed to assign a home health care nurse to come a few times a week, but I am really afraid he’s not ready.

I have discovered I have no fucking friends either. All those thoughts and prayers and bullshit about helping me if I needed something? Oh it is to laugh. I need help with an overgrown yard and all of the sudden those offers to help dried up. Thoughts and prayers aren’t going to plant a garden, clean up tons of tree branches of cut the grass. The Kid can’t do it because his dad never bothered to show him how to use it. My husband helps people all the damned time, often to the neglect of our home. Fuck all these assholes. No one has even come to see him in the hospital except for 2 guys he used to work with. I’m done being nice. It’s been 20 days and 6 surgeries so far. No one fucking cares.

If you’ll set up something, gofundme or paypal, I’ll throw a bit your way to help pay someone to clean your yard.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:20:44am

re: #248 ObserverArt

It’s ok, I just will never lift a finger for any one of these jerks ever again. I just talked with the doctor and he said the wound is 80 percent smaller than it was, but total recovery is probably 4 to 6 months. No skin grafts likely so that’s a bonus, but we have a very long road ahead.

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:20:53am

re: #233 Belafon

We firebombed cities during WW2 as well.

The reason Vietnam soldiers didn’t get a warm welcome was because we didn’t win in Vietnam. We love a winner. When they don’t win, it doesn’t matter if it was an unwinnable war, or a poorly planned one, the soldiers lost it.

I disagree by half. I’d say things like My Lai had a lot to do with why the soldiers were not welcome. At least with the younger people at the time.

Maybe the older war supporters were disappointed with the outcome, but the whole idea of being in Vietnam in the first place upset many of the people that protested.

The sad thing was even most of the soldiers didn’t deserve it. So many were caught up in the draft, it wasn’t their war either.

What a sad affair that all was. We didn’t seem to learn much from it either.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:21:33am

This needs to be spread by the Twitterati:

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Varek Raith  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:21:37am
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CleverToad  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:21:41am

re: #227 A Mom Anon

Thoughts and prayers aren’t going to plant a garden, clean up tons of tree branches of cut the grass..

damn damn damn
{{Mom & Kid}}
Sitting here wishing I had a lousy hundred to send so you could hire somebody for at least a start on this one solvable stress. You need a break so bad. I truly pray that you and your kid will get one.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:21:50am

I’m at a loss for words.
Does all of Cincinnati have a serious vision problem?

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electrotek  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:23:12am

re: #243 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The problem, for the Nixon administration, was that a huge number of others were at least equally guilty. The company commander, Captain Medina, was in the thick of it. Besides Calley’s 1st platoon, 2nd platoon (2LT Stephen Brooks) killed upward of 80 civilians, while 3rd platoon (2LT Jeffrey Lacross) killed at least 10 despite being held in reserve through most of the operation. The battalion commander, LTC Barker, observed the whole operation from his chopper and the Division commander, MG Koster, flew over while it was going on. Both claimed they saw nothing untoward. Yet, Hugh Thompson and his crew, who just happened to fly by during an unrelated mission, were so alarmed at what they saw that they landed and intervened. Nixon was not willing to punish all of them, so essentially none were punished.

Very good points made here.

Justice was not served for the victims of My Lai, and Hugh Thompson Jr.

Shows the immense moral compass of Vietnamese who are able to forgive the U.S. for this, yet many Vietnam War veterans can’t do the same for Jane Fonda.

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ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:24:36am

re: #242 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How can you be in two places at once when you’re really nowhere at all?

I was down in the city of Emphysema checking out some new used cars at Ralph’s Spoilsports Motors the other day.

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Teukka  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:24:37am

re: #46 Shropshire Slasher

Beware the Ides of March!

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A Mom Anon  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:25:01am

re: #251 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I’m outside Atlanta. Thanks, I am just overwhelmed right now and have to figure out how to get a big guy in pain into my little compact car and then keep a 90 lb GSD mix from jumping all over him once we get him inside the house. They are releasing him today. I’m scared.

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makeitstop  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:25:39am

re: #255 Belafon

If you’ll set up something, gofundme or paypal, I’ll throw a bit your way to help pay someone to clean your yard.

Seconded.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:25:45am

re: #227 A Mom Anon

[[[[ Mom ]]]]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:25:59am

re: #263 ObserverArt

I was down in the city of Emphysema checking out some new used cars at Ralph’s Spoilsports Motors the other day.

He’s no fun, he fell right over…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:26:59am
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makeitstop  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:27:14am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m at a loss for words.
Does all of Cincinnati have a serious vision problem?

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That’s the least appetizing thing I’ve seen in a while.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:27:51am

re: #265 A Mom Anon

I’m outside Atlanta. Thanks, I am just overwhelmed right now and have to figure out how to get a big guy in pain into my little compact car and then keep a 90 lb GSD mix from jumping all over him once we get him inside the house. They are releasing him today. I’m scared.

Set us up something where we can contribute. As for getting your husband into the car, hospital staff should be able to help with that; they did when I had my back surgery and my poor wife had to try to load me into my car without bending me in half. You should at least ask about it. For the dog, is there a room you can shut him in for a while to keep him corralled temporarily?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:32:37am

Waiting for a church organisation to call this guy out (who am I kidding, they won’t):

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JordanRules  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:32:58am
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JordanRules  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:33:26am

re: #272 Anymouse 🌹

Waiting for a church organisation to call this guy out (who am I kidding, they won’t):

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I’d like him arrested.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:35:14am

re: #255 Belafon

If you’ll set up something, gofundme or paypal, I’ll throw a bit your way to help pay someone to clean your yard.

Same here if it’s a gofundme. Paypal compromised my debit card twice. Was able to block purchases only because my credit union flagged them as suspicious and called me about them. Having to have your card reissued is a pain.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:35:30am

re: #273 JordanRules

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No fan of either McCain but they’re both right. Liz can fuck off along with her Dad.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:36:16am

re: #272 Anymouse 🌹

Waiting for a church organisation to call this guy out (who am I kidding, they won’t):

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Beto O’Rourke should ask Ted Cruz to, after all he’s been to events this lunatic has hosted.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:36:21am

re: #273 JordanRules

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Let’s call that the best Republican burn of the week.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:36:49am
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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:37:34am

Construction worker survives being impaled by pole through his groin.

(Yes it is graphic and I threw up a little in my mouth)

nypost.com

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:38:18am

re: #279 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

White people are having an opioid crisis. Let’s make it easier to kill black people with marijuana.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:39:03am

Gaaa… . .

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JordanRules  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:39:08am

re: #278 Decatur Deb

Let’s call that the best Republican burn of the week.

For sure! Still sizzles.

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electrotek  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:40:34am

re: #282 Anymouse 🌹

Gaaa… . .

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Damn those Canadians…

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:42:11am

re: #282 Anymouse 🌹

Gaaa… . .

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WTF.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:42:17am
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:43:42am

re: #286 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I guess he likes his role as that one FNC employee who isn’t a totally shit human being.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:43:50am

re: #286 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I wonder if CNN and MSNBC were aware he was available in free agency.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:44:25am

re: #279 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The White House plan also calls for making it easier to invoke the mandatory minimum sentence for drug traffickers who knowingly distribute illegal opioids that can be lethal, like fentanyl.

and what about doctors who knowingly but unneccesacarily prescribe it?

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:47:11am

re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and what about doctors who knowingly but unneccesacarily prescribe it?

(I hate to pile it on, but) Are they black?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:47:50am

re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and what about doctors who knowingly but unneccesacarily prescribe it?

What about the pharmaceutical executives who unleashed this epidemic on us and who still profit by it?

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:49:01am

re: #288 Renaissance_Man

I wonder if CNN and MSNBC were aware he was available in free agency.

Hometown discount.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:50:20am
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MsJ  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:51:02am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m at a loss for words.
Does all of Cincinnati have a serious vision problem?

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OMG. Someone ralphed on a pile of moldy noodles. GAG! ACK. BARF.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:54:35am

BOOM

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:55:00am

re: #295 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Boom, indeed.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:55:40am

Major development.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:55:45am

re: #295 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Shit just got real, yo.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:57:16am

If you listen very carefully, you can hear the tantrum occurring in the Oval Office right now

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:57:32am

re: #295 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

BOOM

“Let us know which documents you want so we can shred them, er, I mean lose them, er, I mean find them for you.”

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:57:33am

re: #295 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

BOOM

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Mueller just dunked on Trump.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:57:49am

Thanks for letting me vent and the offers to help out with money. We’re ok right now, I have a call in to one of The Kid’s buddies who works for a landscape/lawn care company to see what they might be able to do. I’m just really pissed. And no surprise, every person I asked to help is a fucking wingnut. I have no clue what happened to them, because rest assured, back in the day they were all anything but conservative.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:58:16am

re: #298 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Shit just got real, yo.

Which documents? And does the Trump Organisation do something like bury him in a flurry of unrelated paperwork, such as delivering three semi-loads of paper saying “it’s in there somewhere?”

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Bubblehead II  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:58:31am

re: #296 Dr Lizardo

Boom, indeed.

re: #298 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Shit just got real, yo.

Since tRump warned Mueller not to dig around in his personal finances, I wonder if this will push him to ordering Sessions to fire him. Could be the start of a Saturday Night massacre.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:58:56am

re: #302 A Mom Anon

Thanks for letting me vent and the offers to help out with money. We’re ok right now, I have a call in to one of The Kid’s buddies who works for a landscape/lawn care company to see what they might be able to do. I’m just really pissed. And no surprise, every person I asked to help is a fucking wingnut. I have no clue what happened to them, because rest assured, back in the day they were all anything but conservative.

Pay the guy to teach your kids how to take care of the yard.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:59:41am

re: #304 Bubblehead II

Since tRump warned Mueller not to dig around in his personal finances, I wonder if this will push him to ordering Sessions to fire him. Could be the start of a Saturday Night massacre.

And the protestors would hit the streets within an hour of doing so. It could also be the start of a nationwide strike.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 10:59:54am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

BREAKING: White House and State Department Conducted “Cleaning” of Career Employees They Believed Not Sufficiently “Supportive” of Trump Agenda

Thus making it all but impossible to find qualified people for key positions.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:01:08am

re: #304 Bubblehead II

Since tRump warned Mueller not to dig around in his personal finances, I wonder if this will push him to ordering Sessions to fire him. Could be the start of a Saturday Night massacre.

I bet Mueller has tripwires all over the place in preparation for this, including injunctions written in every language known to man to file if Trump tries.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:01:20am

re: #304 Bubblehead II

Since tRump warned Mueller not to dig around in his personal finances, I wonder if this will push him to ordering Sessions to fire him. Could be the start of a Saturday Night massacre.

We are going to be looking at a real outhouse explosion scene come Monday morning, yes…

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JordanRules  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:01:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:02:10am

re: #308 Belafon

I bet Mueller has tripwires all over the place in preparation for this, including injunctions written in every language known to man to file if Trump tries.

Yes, he has been meticulous about every step he takes, and this is his biggest move so far.

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:03:07am

re: #203 ObserverArt

I always thought of God as the omnipotent thumb that pushes down to pressure or squish the offender.

But the Python Big Foot works as well.

and it comes with a sound effect

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:03:22am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:06:42am

The support for Calley during and after his trial was tumultuous. Then-Governor Jimmy Carter declared “American Fighting Man’s Day” in protest against Calley’s initial (bullshit) sentence. Alabama governor George Wallace visited Calley in the stockade. A sappy song called The Battle Hymn of Lt. Calley sold nearly 2 million copies. His subsequent marriage to the daughter of a prominent jeweler was THE social event of the season for (white) Atlanta.
Calley also had some support from the anti-war movement, which believed he was being scapegoated while the big fish got away.
Even during the cover-up, some in the army apparently believed that General Koster was primarily to blame. Though not court martialed, he was reduced in rank, reprimanded and assigned to a comparatively minor post, all with little or no publicity.
Calley and twenty-three other soldiers testified that the night before the operation, Medina had issued orders to “kill everyone in the village.” At his own court martial, Medina claimed he meant only VC combatants. This is a pretty serious distinction to miss, and Medina did nothing to “clarify” matters the next day while the massacre was in progress. He was acquitted.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:10:21am
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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:11:15am

re: #265 A Mom Anon

I’m outside Atlanta. Thanks, I am just overwhelmed right now and have to figure out how to get a big guy in pain into my little compact car and then keep a 90 lb GSD mix from jumping all over him once we get him inside the house. They are releasing him today. I’m scared.

go slowly
and breathe

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Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:11:54am

re: #314 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

For that matter, “Kill every VC in the village.” is an illegal order. We don’t play “No Quarter.”

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Bubblehead II  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:13:06am

re: #309 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We are going to be looking at a real outhouse explosion scene come Monday morning, yes…

I don’t think it’s going to take until Monday. They’re probably trying to wrestle his phone out of his hands as we type.

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JordanRules  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:13:30am
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gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:15:05am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:17:04am

re: #307 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Thus making it all but impossible to find qualified people for key positions.

feature not a bug etc

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dangerman  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:17:10am

re: #313 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

17 people die in a high school and a month later there’s a nationwide protest to get the attention of lawmakers.

One dog dies on an airplane and there’s a bill in the Senate rectifying it within 48 hours.

the entire problem encapsulated in one nutshell tweet

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:17:39am

re: #318 Bubblehead II

I don’t think it’s going to take until Monday. They’re probably trying to wrestle his phone out of his hands as we type.

But we’re just finding out about this. The article says it was “in recent weeks”.

The breadth of the subpoena was not clear, nor was it clear why Mr. Mueller issued it instead of simply asking for the documents from the company, an umbrella organization that oversees Mr. Trump’s business ventures. In the subpoena, delivered in recent weeks, Mr. Mueller ordered the Trump Organization to hand over all documents related to Russia and other topics he is investigating, the people said.

nytimes.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:18:59am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:19:30am

re: #258 Anymouse 🌹

My kid and two other students walked out of their rural, very conservative, public school for 17 minutes today. They were given two punishment options. They chose corporal punishment. This generation is not playing around. #walkout

— Jerusalem Greer

WTFITS?

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Dave In Austin  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:20:06am
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:21:00am

This chowderhead is a Texas state representative, endorsed by Ted Cruz for reëlection.

He is catching a whole lot of crap for his religiously-condescending tweet (the implication is Sir Stephen Hawking is in hell).

Speaking of which, there is an entire Dumpster of Christians on YouTube cheering the death of an atheist and reveling in his burning in hell.

It’s all disgusting.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:21:43am

re: #323 Dr Lizardo

But we’re just finding out about this. The article says it was “in recent weeks”.

nytimes.com

TBH I missed that bit.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:22:24am

FDA Moves to Drastically Lower Nicotine in Cigarettes (The Daily Beast)

Addicts won’t like being sold fake drugs that won’t fix their craving.

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JordanRules  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:23:39am

re: #325 Sir John Barron

WTFITS?

It’s still legal in several states. And it’s used. Crazy.

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makeitstop  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:23:51am

LOL

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:24:25am

re: #112 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

WTF? The nuts don’t fall far from………each other.
Dylann Roof’s Sister Brought Weapons To National School Walkout

a meaningless amount of weed on her.

This is a thing that exists if you’re white enough.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:24:27am

re: #325 Sir John Barron

WTFITS?

Conservatives cannot regain the frame of the message. They will do absolutely anything to shut down the statement from students across the nation.

On the other hand, death is a marvelous motivator. As far as the students are concerned, there is literally nothing a conservative authoritarian or the NRA can do to them. Dying in a classroom is permanent, and unless conservatives want to kill students, they are prepared to go all the way.

This has the feeling that the NRA’s power has been broken, and the politicians they own with it.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:24:34am

re: #325 Sir John Barron

WTFITS?

I got swats up until I was in 8th grade. I finally said to the Principle after the 3 or 4 whacks. “Are ya done yet?”. Lordy he got mad, but he couldn’t hit me anymore since there were witnesses.

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Belafon  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:24:39am

re: #327 Anymouse 🌹

This chowderhead is a Texas state representative, endorsed by Ted Cruz for reëlection.

He is catching a whole lot of crap for his religiously-condescending tweet (the implication is Sir Stephen Hawking is in hell).

Speaking of which, there is an entire Dumpster of Christians on YouTube cheering the death of an atheist and reveling in his burning in hell.

It’s all disgusting.

My religion says we’re all subroutines in a giant program and the Gods pull those out that contribute to science, culture, or society.

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JordanRules  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:27:09am

Soon as I get some coinage, I gotta remember to slide some to Mother Jones.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:30:41am

re: #335 Belafon

My religion says we’re all subroutines in a giant program and the Gods pull those out that contribute to science, culture, or society.

Google “Brisco Cain” to see what’s wrong with the world. What an Asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:31:59am
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Weaselone  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:32:11am

re: #336 JordanRules

What’s absolutely horrifying is that the article is just going to end up with Prager U getting more hits due to the embedded videos.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:32:20am

re: #326 Dave In Austin

Who might that be?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:33:23am
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lawhawk  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:33:33am

Developing: Appears that there was a pedestrian bridge collapse at FIU wth casualties:

The bridge was just erected into its final position in the past weekend. It’s unclear why it collapsed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:34:18am

re: #342 lawhawk

Developing: Appears that there was a pedestrian bridge collapse at FIU wth casualties:

[Embedded content]

The bridge was just erected into its final position in the past weekend. It’s unclear why it collapsed.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:36:49am

re: #340 Sir John Barron

Who might that be?

A dangerious babyfaced N. Texas asshole. Reminds me of a redneck Texan Ben Shapiro.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:37:33am

re: #300 Belafon

“Let us know which documents you want so we can shred them, er, I mean lose them, er, I mean find them for you.”

Wasn’t there just a report of an explosion and a cloud of black smoke at a military facility that was “just a test”? //

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:39:42am

re: #272 Anymouse 🌹

Waiting for a church organisation to call this guy out (who am I kidding, they won’t):

[Embedded content]

The usual gang of assholes were calling for a boycott of Girl Scout cookies here in Los Angeles. So I gave the kids $50 told them they didn’t have to give me any cookies. And I enjoyed telling the Jesusbot to go fuck off!

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nines09  Mar 15, 2018 • 11:53:13am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

People who drink green beer because it’s St Pats day need to be bitch slapped.
Or you can get another dye injector and double dye a keg and hear about the stories later on their green poops….

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CleverToad  Mar 15, 2018 • 12:05:07pm

re: #302 A Mom Anon

Thanks for letting me vent and the offers to help out with money. We’re ok right now, I have a call in to one of The Kid’s buddies who works for a landscape/lawn care company to see what they might be able to do. I’m just really pissed. And no surprise, every person I asked to help is a fucking wingnut. I have no clue what happened to them, because rest assured, back in the day they were all anything but conservative.

Hope the Kid’s buddy can help, and that you can swing an ongoing arrangement for the summer. And yes, that buddy can help kid learn how to do yard maintenance safely and effectively.

Money is always a worry, but there’s also the higher cost of the emotional energy you have to expend worrying about the yard when there is so much that demands your attention inside the house. Hoping you can get some respite.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 12:15:11pm

re: #318 Bubblehead II

I don’t think it’s going to take until Monday. They’re probably trying to wrestle his phone out of his hands as we type.

Monday will just be smoking, smelly ruins

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 12:23:15pm

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

Breaking: Significant for Mueller to subpoena Trump ORGANIZATION for first time. About Russia.

And he could have *requested* material — this is a more assertive approach.

He knows damn well that request would have been stonewalled.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 12:24:32pm

re: #330 JordanRules

It’s still legal in several states. And it’s used. Crazy.

Wow, I thought corporal punishment was out by the end of the 70’s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 15, 2018 • 12:25:42pm

re: #333 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatives cannot regain the frame of the message. They will do absolutely anything to shut down the statement from students across the nation.

On the other hand, death is a marvelous motivator. As far as the students are concerned, there is literally nothing a conservative authoritarian or the NRA can do to them. Dying in a classroom is permanent, and unless conservatives want to kill students, they are prepared to go all the way.

This has the feeling that the NRA’s power has been broken, and the politicians they own with it.

Say it again: their tactics of attack, defame and deflect are just not working like they used to.

These students are media savvy and know just how to put a human face on the issue of gun control.

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austin_blue  Mar 15, 2018 • 12:50:10pm

re: #264 Teukka

[Embedded content]

Happy Birthday!

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 15, 2018 • 1:18:26pm

re: #329 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

they’ll buy even more cigarettes and smoke even more.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 15, 2018 • 1:22:16pm

re: #354 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

they’ll buy even more cigarettes and smoke even more.

More likely it’ll boost vape sales since you can put as much nicotine as you want in them.

You can only smoke so many cigarettes until your throat and lungs will take no more.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Mar 15, 2018 • 1:28:06pm

re: #256 A Mom Anon

Are you any where near Ann Arbor, Michigan?


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