Samantha Bee Returns! And She Has Stuff to Say About the State of the Shutdown
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Not even a month-long shutdown can stop the government from continuing to make extremely stupid, nightmare decisions!
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The bill defines female as:
“an individual with ovaries who is confirmed before or at birth to
have external anatomical characteristics that appear to have the purpose of performing the natural reproductive function of providing eggs and receiving sperm from a male donor.“— Imani Gandy (@AngryBlackLady) January 24, 2019
I wish I was kidding. https://t.co/A46Glr0POj
It is going to get so. much. worse.— Imani Gandy (@AngryBlackLady) January 24, 2019
The correct answer is, “Yes, because that’s why NATO exists.”
This administration is such a clusterfck from top to bottom. https://t.co/X2tEh5qe0u— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 24, 2019
re: #2 Charles Johnson
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NATO allies defended us after 9/11. Pompeo is a vet. He should know better than to parrot this shit out.
Current CNN headline: TRUMP AIDES KEEP TELLING STRUGGLING WORKERS TO SUCK IT UP
💔 Federal subcontractor gives emotional plea to lawmakers: ‘Do something before it’s too late’ https://t.co/MUBB7Cw8rH
— Alyssa Milano (@Alyssa_Milano) January 24, 2019
re: #6 Patricia Kayden
Narrator: It was, in fact, already too late.
re: #2 Charles Johnson
Putin couldn’t have planted a better response that favors Russia if he tried (and he tried).
Once again, Trump’s foreign policy outcomes are indistinguishable from outcomes Putin wants.
re: #2 Charles Johnson
I’m old enough to remember when the United States invoked Article 5 of the NATO treaty in the aftermath of the worst terrorist atrocity in American history.
And now, less than two decades later, our Secretary of State replies with, “I’m not going to get into hypotheticals” when asked if America would come to the aid of our NATO allies should they be in their hour of need.
I can only assume that Vladimir Putin will be sleeping quite well for the foreseeable future.
It’s a small thing, I know, but why the hell is “Cave” capitalized? https://t.co/PyzGipJiJ2
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 24, 2019
re: #9 Dr Lizardo
I’m old enough to remember when the United States invoked Article 5 of the NATO treaty in the aftermath of the worst terrorist atrocity in American history.
And now, less than two decades later, our Secretary of State replies with, “I’m not going to get into hypotheticals” when asked if America would come to the aid of our NATO allies should they be in their hour of need.
I can only assume that Vladimir Putin will be sleeping quite well for the foreseeable future.
It disgusts me because while I doubt Trump knows the extent they helped after 9/11, Pompeo should. I know he got out a decade before 9/11 but still.
re: #12 HappyWarrior
It disgusts me because while I doubt Trump knows the extent they helped after 9/11, Pompeo should. I know he got out a decade before 9/11 but still.
There is no Pompeo. He has been taken over by the Drump thing.
re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’d have thought Indiana would try that shit before Utah. Jeebus.
good grief
You too can contribute to Rand Paul’s $10k Uber bill and luxury accommodations around the country: https://t.co/Rbnw3KVyJS via @TomLoftus_CJ
— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) January 24, 2019
re: #14 Sir John Barron
There is no Pompeo. He has been taken over by the Drump thing.
This remake of The Thing sucks.
re: #14 Sir John Barron
There is no Pompeo. He has been taken over by the Drump thing.
It Came From Outer Space Trump Tower
re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth
good grief
I’m assuming Rand used Uber to go to Canada for his medical treatments?
fucking clueless
After telling the press that federal workers are “volunteering” by continuing to come to work without pay, a reporter calls out Larry Kudlow’s incorrect assessment and he fumbles further, saying they are working without pay out of respect for the presidency and Trump. pic.twitter.com/ofN3unRVSY
— Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) January 24, 2019
Right on cue, here come the racist dirtbags at the New York Post. https://t.co/DZvBJPhVT4
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 24, 2019
re: #14 Sir John Barron
There is no Pompeo. He has been taken over by the Drump thing.
There is no Pompeo. Only ZUUL!
re: #6 Patricia Kayden
Fuck that orange piece of shit.
re: #25 uncah91
There is no Pompeo. Only ZUUL!
Ray, next time someone asks you if you are a god, you say yes!
Watch complete remarks from @SenatorBennet here: https://t.co/AwA2TQl2ad #GovernmentShutdown
— CSPAN (@cspan) January 24, 2019
re: #25 uncah91
There is no Pompeo. Only ZUUL!
So, you’re saying that Trump Tower was designed by Ivo Shandor?
Well…..I learn something new every day, LOL.
re: #28 Myron Falwell
Ray, next time someone asks you if you are a god, you say yes!
Do you think Trump would fall for that? I think he might fall for that.
It’s a plan so crazy it just might work.
re: #11 Charles Johnson
It’s a small thing, I know, but why the hell is “Cave” capitalized?
hopefully he thinks its a noun, because there will be no cave
(nobody wants one)
re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth
And what about the fraction of people that don’t fall into a simple yes or no?
Live Vote Count: The Senate Bills to End the Government Shutdown https://t.co/51kLEhpCWt
— Michael Tackett (@tackettdc) January 24, 2019
re: #33 Belafon
And what about the fraction of people that don’t fall into a simple yes or no?
They get a coin flip.
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re: #35 Single-handed sailor
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And Joe Manchin has voted for the GOP bill. The whole “Better than a Republican” excuse for continuing to support his reelection has worn thinner than a human hair.
re: #37 Targetpractice
And Joe Manchin has voted for the GOP bill. The whole “Better than a Republican” excuse for continuing to support his reelection has worn thinner than a human hair.
Let’s see if he supports the Dem one.
re: #37 Targetpractice
And Joe Manchin has voted for the GOP bill. The whole “Better than a Republican” excuse for continuing to support his reelection has worn thinner than a human hair.
Not a surprise. Not one bit.
It might be for the best the party leadership just tells him to leave. It’s not worth it.
re: #37 Targetpractice
And Joe Manchin has voted for the GOP bill. The whole “Better than a Republican” excuse for continuing to support his reelection has worn thinner than a human hair.
A DINO is 1000% better than any Republican today. And Manchin has voted for other important Democratic legislation.
Another step in dismantling America’s social safety nets.
New: White House will announce a plan by next month to end government control of Fannie and Freddie, per a recording of FHFA Director Otting speaking to agency staff. Significant headway expected within 6-18 mos. WH doesn’t think it needs legislation.https://t.co/dbVVj0dsjP
— Katy O’Donnell (@KatyODonnell_) January 24, 2019
re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth
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That link to the long YouTube video is great. He is making Lindsey Graham’s Senate performances look like a third grade class play to his Broadway production.
Keep it up Senator Bennett.
And oh yeah, you don’t have to say you respect Ted Cruz. No one does.
re: #40 KGxvi
Just got to 41 nays.
i dont believe mitch has ever held a vote he didnt already know what was going to happen
re: #46 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
i dont believe mitch has ever held a vote he didnt already know what was going to happen
No smart legislator would.
re: #46 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
i dont believe mitch has ever held a vote he didnt already know what was going to happen
McCain.
trump is out of responses to nancy today because his staff tells him he can’t fire her, sue her, or slap her
re: #42 Charles Johnson
Another step in dismantling America’s social safety nets.
They keep thinking that and then it doesn’t work.
re: #50 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
trump is out of responses to nancy today because his staff tells him he can’t fire her, sue her, or slap her
Or pay her to go away.
Murkowski and Collins were yays on the Trump plan. Cornyn and McSally are thus far the only border state Senators to vote yes, though I suspect Cruz will shortly.
re: #37 Targetpractice
And Joe Manchin has voted for the GOP bill. The whole “Better than a Republican” excuse for continuing to support his reelection has worn thinner than a human hair.
Manchin, Collins, Murkowski and Gardner have all said they’ll vote yes on BOTH bills.
re: #46 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
i dont believe mitch has ever held a vote he didnt already know what was going to happen
He may know the outcome, and that could be why he put the clean CR after this. Otherwise it makes no sense.
re: #35 Single-handed sailor
I still don’t like the Schumer alternative of 2 weeks.
Yes, some will get backpay… but then be out of pay again two weeks following. Meanwhile, since the government is open, Trump will claim he ought to be let into the House to give the SOTU. And that speech will be all the badness you can imagine.
Mike Lee is also a nay on the Trump plan, that’s two Republicans against.
re: #55 sagehen
Manchin, Collins, Murkowski and that other guy from Colorado have all said they’ll vote yes on BOTH bills.
Seems like a “whatever it takes, just open the government” coalition.
.@SenMikeLee also votes against Trump plan
— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) January 24, 2019
re: #61 freetoken
Trump’s plan can’t get to 60.
So it’ll be on to Schumer’s plan.
Trump’s plan may not even get to 50.
re: #59 ObserverArt
Oh this is too good. Thank you Senator Bennett for coming out and just saying it.
(Video set to play the couple minutes of Bennett on “The Hastert Rule”…watch the subtle reaction of his fellow Senator to his left and a bit out of camera.)
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Looks like Doug Jones.
Can’t wait for someone in Trumpworld to explain to Trump that the Trump bill is going down in flames in the GOP controlled Senate as they can’t get the votes among their own GOP caucus for this nonsense.
McConnell’s smirk is showing though. He’s savvy enough to know how to deflect blame on to others. He merely allowed the vote - and he can’t help it if the outcome is not helping Trump or his idiotic wall.
We’ve still got a bit of time to see how the final tally comes in, and then we get to the next vote - on the clean CR.
Gonna call it a night; up early for work tomorrow. Later, Lizards.
re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Bennett sounds like someone who should be joining the fray and running for President. He is a terrific extemporaneous speaker. And the brief clip of Ted Cruz shows what a lying weasel Ted is. The McConnell bill was not a clean CR at all and it would not pass the House.
re: #63 Decatur Deb
Looks like Doug Jones.
Yeah, that is who it is. I love the little surprised smile and looking down while Bennett is ripping them a new one.
re: #67 ObserverArt
Yeah, that is who it is. I love the little surprised smile and looking down while Bennett is ripping them a new one.
Sent him an “Up Against the Wall” email a few minutes ago.
re: #64 lawhawk
I wonder if McConnell will change his vote at the last second so that he can bring it back up for a vote later?
re: #64 lawhawk
Can’t wait for someone in Trumpworld to explain to Trump that the Trump bill is going down in flames in the GOP controlled Senate as they can’t get the votes among their own GOP caucus for this nonsense.
McConnell’s smirk is showing though. He’s savvy enough to know how to deflect blame on to others. He merely allowed the vote - and he can’t help it if the outcome is not helping Trump or his idiotic wall.
We’ve still got a bit of time to see how the final tally comes in, and then we get to the next vote - on the clean CR.
The bold’s the part that is going to lead to a lot of screaming, that there were Republicans in the Senate who actually voted against this bill. How dare they betray him, their God-Emperor?!
Man Charged With Murder After Allegedly Killing 5 Women At SunTrust Bank In Florida
I’ve been outside the US quite a bit in my about-to-be 70 years. I am quite sure they have about as high a percentage of these incel nutcakes in the UK and France and Canada as we do here. Yet they don’t have a mass shooting every fucking day. What could be the reason? ‘Tis a puzzlement.
Current vote on the Trump plan: 51 yea, 47 nay. It is defeated.Final.
It needs 60 votes to advance.
Manchin voted yea
Lee and Cotton voted no.
UPDATE:
3:17 - Johnson added aye; Blackburn; aye.
re: #56 Myron Falwell
He may know the outcome, and that could be why he put the clean CR after this. Otherwise it makes no sense.
They fully expect both bills to fail. It is Mitch saying see neither of these work and trying to force some sort of compromise.
re: #62 KGxvi
Trump’s plan may not even get to 50.
Just did.
The three remaining Republicans will probably follow the party line too.
re: #33 Belafon
And what about the fraction of people that don’t fall into a simple yes or no?
For example there are babies with external female appearance no ovaries and internal testes. And babies with both or unclear external genitalia And XX or XY does not produce a fixed set of outcomes so you can’t use that to define. Fucking morons in a quest with no meaning or good purpose except to deny their own god’s Creations. .
Two remaining Republicans to vote. Risch of ID who is very right wing… and Rand Paul, who will probably vote may who knows may just skip the thing to go do something else.
Schumer’s proposal is now on the clock for the vote.
re: #73 danarchy
They fully expect both bills to fail. It is Mitch saying see neither of these work and trying to force some sort of compromise.
Which is a foolish strategy, he’d be giving the Democrats all the ammo to use against him and those who vote nay on the obvious exit ramp.
Oops, maybe not, Donnie. https://t.co/kEwsBqN37N
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 24, 2019
re: #75 Old Liberal
For example there are babies with external female appearance no ovaries and internal testes. And babies with both or unclear external genitalia And XX or XY does not produce a fixed set of outcomes so you can’t use that to define. Fucking morons in a quest with no meaning or good purpose except to deny their own god’s Creations. .
UNPOSSIBLE! The Bibble says “Male and female He created them”! Chekmate, libtard!
Honestly, the lengths to which they go to fuck over people who make them uncomfortable. Cripes. Imagine having a brain full of squirrels like that.
re: #76 freetoken
Two remaining Republicans to vote. Risch of ID who is very right wing… and Rand Paul, who will probably vote may who knows may just skip the thing to go do something else.
Brave Senator Paul… ran away from the vote…
If Paul were the libertarian he claims to be, he’d vote against the wall, and be in favor of the free movement of people. That used to be a fairly central tenant of libertarianism
re: #81 KGxvi
Brave Senator Paul… ran away from the vote…
If Paul were the libertarian he claims to be, he’d vote against the wall, and be in favor of the free movement of people. That used to be a fairly central tenant of libertarianism
The Bundy’s actually believe that.
re: #71 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Man Charged With Murder After Allegedly Killing 5 Women At SunTrust Bank In Florida
I’ve been outside the US quite a bit in my about-to-be 70 years. I am quite sure they have about as high a percentage of these incel nutcakes in the UK and France and Canada as we do here. Yet they don’t have a mass shooting every fucking day. What could be the reason? ‘Tis a puzzlement.
he was fine until he wasnt - except he wasnt fine. he “had his troubles”
no one ever hurt anyone before the first time.. gah———
Josh Xaver, who told CNN he is the suspect’s father, called the news a “total shock.”
“He wasn’t raised to be like this. He’s always been a good kid,” Xaver said. “He’s had his troubles, but he has never hurt anyone ever before.”
re: #81 KGxvi
Brave Senator Paul… ran away from the vote…
If Paul were the libertarian he claims to be, he’d vote against the wall, and be in favor of the free movement of people. That used to be a fairly central tenant of libertarianism
Yeah, but that was back when the rules (or lack of them) applied to everyone, not just oneself.
One last thing: note that Donald Trump used no hardball tactics to try and get Mexico to pay for “the wall” as he promised. Not even during NAFTA renegotiations. He was told no and backed down. Yet he is inflicting unbearable pain on his own citizens to get Americans to pay. Why?
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) January 24, 2019
re: #85 Charles Johnson
Yet he is inflicting unbearable pain on his own citizens to get Americans to pay. Why?
Obviously, because he can.
re: #81 KGxvi
Brave Senator Paul… ran away from the vote…
If Paul were the libertarian he claims to be, he’d vote against the wall, and be in favor of the free movement of people. That used to be a fairly central tenant of libertarianism
I would not want to be a tenant of libertarianism, because they’d be able to evict me anytime with no notice because there’d be no law to protect me.
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re: #75 Old Liberal
For example there are babies with external female appearance no ovaries and internal testes. And babies with both or unclear external genitalia And XX or XY does not produce a fixed set of outcomes so you can’t use that to define. Fucking morons in a quest with no meaning or good purpose except to deny their own god’s Creations. .
Interesting footnote in all of this that the Utah Democratic party nominated a trans woman for the US Senate in 2016.
re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White
UNPOSSIBLE! The Bibble says “Male and female He created them”! Chekmate, libtard!
Honestly, the lengths to which they go to fuck over people who make them uncomfortable. Cripes. Imagine having a brain full of squirrels like that.
It’s sad because in the case of external female and internal testes the person learns this when they don’t begin menstration. Why can’t we cut this shit and replace it with understanding and support, you know, like that Jesus guy said.
re: #87 Blind Frog Belly White
I would not want to be a tenant of libertarianism, because they’d be able to evict me anytime with no notice because there’d be no law to protect me.
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heh, fingers faster than my brain, I guess.
re: #86 calochortus
Obviously, because he can.
More like, because he doesn’t know what else to do. His sole negotiating tactic is to make a demand, and walk out if he doesn’t get it. The other side caves or they don’t. In business, if they don’t cave, he’d find another partner. There are no other partners in this.
re: #85 Charles Johnson
Because, as I’m sure Joy is alluding to, it’s not about the wall. It’s about keeping Democrats from doing what they were elected to do.
Michael Ertel, the newly appointed Secretary of State of Gov. Ron DeSantis, has resigned after photos emerged of him posing as a Hurricane Katrina victim in blackface at a private Halloween party 14 years ago.
here’s hoping a similar result some time in the future for some of those kentucky kids
re: #81 KGxvi
Brave Senator Paul… ran away from the vote…
If Paul were the libertarian he claims to be, he’d vote against the wall, and be in favor of the free movement of people. That used to be a fairly central tenant of libertarianism
Just because he claims to be libertarian doesn’t make him one. I am no fan of libertarianism but I have never seen anything that indicates he really adheres to that philosophy.
re: #82 Belafon
The Bundy’s actually believe that.
I’m as close to an advocate for open borders as you’ll find. I think legal immigration should be drastically increased, we should provide amnesty/pathway to citizenship for every undocumented person in the US, and that we should make it easier for people who want to come here for work, whether permanently or temporarily.
re: #89 Old Liberal
It’s sad because in the case of external female and internal testes the person learns this when they don’t begin menstration. Why can’t we cut this shit and replace it with understanding and support, you know, like that Jesus guy said.
Because then they’d have to not be assholes to people who make them uncomfortable, which cuts against the whole basis of social conservatism.
re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White
More like, because he doesn’t know what else to do. His sole negotiating tactic is to make a demand, and walk out if he doesn’t get it. The other side caves or they don’t. In business, if they don’t cave, he’d find another partner. There are no other partners in this.
he has no understanding of politics
re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White
More like, because he doesn’t know what else to do. His sole negotiating tactic is to make a demand, and walk out if he doesn’t get it. The other side caves or they don’t. In business, if they don’t cave, he’d find another partner. There are no other partners in this.
Yeah, he’s not thinking about inflicting pain (that’s up to Stephan Miller) but on how much he can stroke his ego.
He’s terrible at the job because he’s throughly unqualified, but we all knew that to begin with.
It seems that some Freepers are beginning to detect a problem with the Trump administration.
They’re not happy that he backed down on the SOTU address, though some are spinning it as a diabolically clever plan that hasn’t finished playing out yet.
Some are wondering why Trump didn’t fund the wall when he had the Senate and the House and are disappointed.
Others point out that the first 2 years Trump was busy with tax cuts, only to have someone point out his, and other peoples taxes have gone up because they can’t deduct state and local taxes, which may have upset some voters.
On to the Democratic bill, already 5 Republicans voting yay.
Alexander and Isakson voted for the Dem plan already… did not see them on the list before.
Trumpites are such lovely people. pic.twitter.com/RZVjMnsRL4
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 24, 2019
Donald Trump is getting pretty close to this level of incoherence himself, actually.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 24, 2019
Smith25 posted a bishop’s condemnation of the Covington Cath pro-life field trip (last thread). The Freepers are on it, calling Bishop Stowe out for virtue signalling.
Freeper should read the job description.
re: #99 calochortus
It seems that some Freepers are beginning to detect a problem with the Trump administration.
They’re not happy that he backed down on the SOTU address, though some are spinning it as a diabolically clever plan that hasn’t finished playing out yet.
Some are wondering why Trump didn’t fund the wall when he had the Senate and the House and are disappointed.
Others point out that the first 2 years Trump was busy with tax cuts, only to have someone point out his, and other peoples taxes have gone up because they can’t deduct state and local taxes, which may have upset some voters.
Slowly catching on to the Shart of the Deal.
re: #104 Decatur Deb
Smith25 posted a bishop’s condemnation of the Covington Cath pro-life field trip (last thread). The Freepers are on it, calling Bishop Stowe out for virtue signalling.
Freeper should read the job description.
What’s next? Calling him out for using the Bible?
Seems legit. https://t.co/JRoiPXmUe8
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 24, 2019
re: #92 Belafon
Because, as I’m sure Joy is alluding to, it’s not about the wall. It’s about keeping Democrats from doing what they were elected to do.
I think this is the equivalent of the old prison advice that you should choose the biggest guy as soon as you get there and beat the hell out of them, so they’ll let you alone afterwards. Trump figured he had to notch a big win against the incoming Democratic House so everyone would know he’s still the Alpha.
Trump is desperately afraid of how weak and small he’ll look if he loses. MUCH, MUCH weaker than he’d be if he hadn’t tried this stunt.
Romney is in the “just open the government” coalition, yay on both.
re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White
I think this is the equivalent of the old prison advice that you should choose the biggest guy as soon as you get there and beat the hell out of them, so they’ll let you alone afterwards. Trump figured he had to notch a big win against the incoming Democratic House so everyone would know he’s still the Alpha.
Trump is desperately afraid of how weak and small he’ll look if he loses. MUCH, MUCH weaker than he’d be if he hadn’t tried this stunt.
this i think is as usual gives trump too much credit for strategic thinking, planning, etc
re: #110 jimmyvluv4u
Surprised McSally didn’t vote for it.
She’s probably more worried about the primary than the general election next year. Which, given the results last year, seems… short sighted.
re: #109 Charles Johnson
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re: #97 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
he has no understanding of politics
he really has no understanding of business negotiations, either.
So… 6 (at least) R defections and only Manchin defecting on the (D) side? Not sure what leverage McConnell/Trump think they have at this point.
re: #113 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
this i think is as usual gives trump too much credit for strategic thinking, planning, etc
Nah. It’s simple dominance. It’s how he works.
re: #83 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
My journalism professor used to joke about how stories on murderers have to have the obligatory quote from a neighbor that said: “He was a quiet man.”
re: #117 jimmyvluv4u
McConnell, as others have noted, is just covering his ass. He can now say that he let a vote happen… of course it was not on the actual CRs that the House passed, but the masses are not going to know the difference.
re: #117 jimmyvluv4u
So… 6 (at least) R defections and only Manchin defecting on the (D) side? Not sure what leverage McConnell/Trump think they have at this point.
Manchin along with the six Republicans make up a group of seven that voted yay on both bills. And there are two Republicans who voted nay on both proposals.
re: #117 jimmyvluv4u
So… 6 (at least) R defections and only Manchin defecting on the (D) side? Not sure what leverage McConnell/Trump think they have at this point.
“Neither bill can pass on its own, so Dems must now agree to ‘compromise’ by giving us some portion of our demands.”
So basically, the government is still shut down and we continue to be fucked indefinitely?
re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth
he really has no understanding of business negotiations, either.
true enough and yet the rubes hired him to do this job (politics) because they thought he could do that job (real estate negotiations)
wrong on both counts
re: #122 Targetpractice
“Neither bill can pass on its own, so Dems must now agree to ‘compromise’ by giving us some portion of our demands.”
“we had more yay votes and fewer nay votes than you, you need to give up some of your demands.”
re: #125 KGxvi
“we had more yay votes and fewer nay votes than you, you need to give up some of your demands.”
“No.”
Paul, Risch, and Rosen haven’t voted on either bill. Burr and Wyden haven’t voted on the Democratic bill. Not sure the reasons why.
re: #123 Eclectic Cyborg
So basically, the government is still shut down and we continue to be fucked indefinitely?
Until enough Republican senators feel threatened that they force Mitch to go along and conference with the House on actual CRs… yes.
Welp, looks like we get no federal government today. Did we ever actually have one, or was that all just a crazy dream?
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 24, 2019
So after @SavannahGuthrie ran interference for the MAGAteen and his parents PR firm, she casts suspicion on Nathan Phillips’s military service. You are deplorable Savannah Guthrie and so is the TODAY Show. I don’t know why NBC bothered to fire Megyn Kelly. https://t.co/5vi9HK33ut
— Bodak Red 🥂 🥂 (@AFarray) January 24, 2019
i’ve been talking a lot. with my stuffed fren sebastian. and we strongly believe. that cuddles are crucial. and should be distributed bountifully
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re: #123 Eclectic Cyborg
So basically, the government is still shut down and we continue to be fucked indefinitely?
Mitch is the one who’s fucked. He’ll try to spin it every way possible, but he’s fucked.
This is Jake. He was rescued from a burning shed at three weeks old. The same fireman who saved his life adopted him just days later. Jake has since been sworn in as an honorary firefighter and to this day he helps teach fire safety at local schools. He is our eighth ever 15/10 pic.twitter.com/aR6YMlZHlo
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re: #133 Myron Falwell
Mitch is the one who’s fucked. He’ll try to spin it every way possible, but he’s fucked.
I hope so.
I wonder if Mitt voted “Yes” to the Dem plan just so people can tell Trump that Mitt was the reason the Dem plan got more votes than the Trump plan.
re: #129 Charles Johnson
Finally the legislative check begins to impeded the executive. I mean finally… Lost on State of The Union, losing on the shutdown and the wall. Investigations beginning, real enemies on oversight committees. It had to get worse before better but damn what a rocky bottom to hit.
Last night on NPR there was a piece where they went to Ohio to talk to people about the shutdown. The Trump voters they talked to uniformly said “We need The Wall!”, but some didn’t think this was the way to get it.
But here’s the thing - Ohio is way, way far away from the border. And the area they visited - Chillicothe, I believe - is almost 90% white and the Hispanic population is <1.5%. Yet again, it shows that the people who have the least exposure to immigrants are the worst hardliners on immigration.
re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth
Guthrie exists to get eyes on NBC. She did that. Comcast will love her.
re: #138 Blind Frog Belly White
Last night on NPR there was a piece where they went to Ohio to talk to people about the shutdown. The Trump voters they talked to uniformly said “We need The Wall!”, but some didn’t think this was the way to get it.
But here’s the thing - Ohio is way, way far away from the border. And the area they visited - Chillicothe, I believe - is almost 90% white and the Hispanic population is <1.5%. Yet again, it shows that the people who have the least exposure to immigrants are the worst hardliners on immigration.
They really should be going to places more representative of the state as a whole.
re: #4 HappyWarrior
Glad Utah is focused on what’s important.
Utah is the same state that started that whole “porn is a health crisis” thing. When there are more important things to be concerned about!
Another way to frame this is that the GOP couldn’t even get their own caucus to support Trump’s nonsense. It failed to get all GOPers. There was bipartisan opposition to Trump’s plan. https://t.co/TwmNi0yBpY
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 24, 2019
Likewise, the Democrats’ plan succeeded in getting more GOPers to support their plan than Trump did.
Guess Trump isn’t good at negotiating with his party (or anyone else) to further his interests.
He remains a bully and a bloviator who doesn’t know how to govern.
re: #142 lawhawk
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Guess Trump isn’t good at negotiating with his party (or anyone else) to further his interests.
He remains a bully and a bloviator who doesn’t know how to govern.
I think the big takeaway from all this is that a growing contingent of the Senate GOP just want the shutdown to end, they don’t care how that happens and are prepared to support Senate DNC efforts if it gets people back to work.
If you wanted to try to help some of the federal employees, Doug! has a link: balloon-juice.com.
“It’s a school tradition” gonna get a workout on this one. https://t.co/oJf5uVqAxC
— Schooley (@Rschooley) January 24, 2019
re: #141 mmmirele
Utah is the same state that started that whole “porn is a health crisis” thing. When there are more important things to be concerned about!
Well, it COULD become a health crisis, but it can be resolved with moderation, hydration, and lotion for the chafing.
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re: #148 HappyWarrior
That first image looks a bit like Trump’s makeup.
- I was convinced , he didn’t do it ❤️ pic.twitter.com/hYf1FQ5FAx
— Köksal Akın (@Koksalakn) January 24, 2019
So after five weeks of boasts about how the DNC were “breaking,” how Donny was in talks with them, and about how his “compromise” came about from said talks, the total number of Senate Dems who voted for his bill was…one.
So, odds of Trump telling Federal workers that Democrats are the reason they are about to miss a second paycheck?
re: #135 calochortus
I hope so.
He lost a LOT of leverage and the existing blame against him will not let up. Moreover, the Democrats showed him by passing the one true shot at ending this and he blocked it.
re: #107 KGxvi
And boom… 41 nays on the Democratic plan.
So, one more vote would have passed it? Although that wouldn’t be veto-proof. Still.
re: #146 jaunte
It’s a reflection on not only that twit, but DeSantis who picked him.
re: #138 Blind Frog Belly White
Last night on NPR there was a piece where they went to Ohio to talk to people about the shutdown. The Trump voters they talked to uniformly said “We need The Wall!”, but some didn’t think this was the way to get it.
But here’s the thing - Ohio is way, way far away from the border. And the area they visited - Chillicothe, I believe - is almost 90% white and the Hispanic population is <1.5%. Yet again, it shows that the people who have the least exposure to immigrants are the worst hardliners on immigration.
People of Chillicothe could use some immigrants. The damn city is hurting budget wise and is losing people. But it is part of the Appalachian thinking that starts around that part of Ohio. Beautiful area too. Nice and hilly.
Schumer walks into McConnell’s office, as some GOP senators say that a way out of the shutdown now may be up to them
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 24, 2019
Hmm.
re: #154 Sir John Barron
So, one more vote would have passed it? Although that wouldn’t be veto-proof. Still.
the final vote was 52-44
By getting Trump to capitulate to her nixing of the State of the Union address, Nancy Pelosi broke the “false-equivalence fog machine”:https://t.co/ZGiEJPiCD3 pic.twitter.com/sAaoLZehqg
— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) January 24, 2019
re: #157 Myron Falwell
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Schumer’s gotta be fighting down a shit-eatting grin right now. He had a single defection from his ranks, while Mitch had several who voted for both bills. The reality is that, given another week, Schumer will have the votes to get cloture on his bill. Mitch is never going to get the votes for Donny’s, nor is Donny going to let him negotiate another bill. If there’s a way out of this, it’s going to by accepting some form of “clean” CR.
There are things about US immigration policy that need fixing, but border security isn’t one of them. The Republitrump focus on this is purely about fear-mongering to keep the 30% angry and xenophobic.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 24, 2019
re: #161 Charles Johnson
Upding for “Republitrump”.
re: #161 Charles Johnson
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re: #163 HappyWarrior
The 30% I might add live in fear of immigrants despite being the least likely to interact with them. Conned by a conman.
Fear of the unknown.
2/ He thought it was a surprise offensive. But his position was much weaker than he realized and his demonstrated weakness has demoralized his supporters.
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 24, 2019
There’s something absolutely rotten going on over at the AP.
The Democrats’ bill got more votes than the Republicans bill, but the @AP frames this as Democrats obstructing Trump’s efforts to re-open government.
Just like Trump wants.— Jamison Foser (@jamisonfoser) January 24, 2019
re: #166 HappyWarrior
I for one welcome our pupusa overlords.
Like I say on FB whenever I get into one of those discussions on immigration and assimilation - I live in a state with no majorities. It’s cool. And the food is so much better.
O_o
A year ago, when I heard Scaramucci had a habit of cracking this joke, he feigned ignorance, saying it “sounds racist.” When asked if that was a denial, he said, “I have no further comments. Ask your editor if he thinks that is a good idea to write that” https://t.co/PqfOye1sIW
— Asawin Suebsaeng (@swin24) January 24, 2019
in Mooch’s dreams, maybe…
re: #151 Targetpractice
He still thinks that governing is tweeting about “Dems are Caving!” and “We have Great Unity!”, then having hundreds of thousands of “likes” for his tweet.
re: #162 Eclectic Cyborg
Upding for “Republitrump”.
I kinda like Trumpublicans.
He took them over and they gave up.
Let them always be associated with Trump and the worst U.S. President in history along with one of the worst Republican Senates.
re: #168 Blind Frog Belly White
Like I say on FB whenever I get into one of those discussions on immigration and assimilation - I live in a state with no majorities. It’s cool. And the food is so much better.
When I moved to Western Loudoun County, the most ethnic place in town was a meh TexMex spot. We now have a pupuseria and Thai place.
re: #170 Flying Squirrel Girl
He still thinks that governing is tweeting about “Dems are Caving!” and “We have Great Unity!”, then having hundreds of thousands of “likes” for his tweet.
And having one of his bootlickers on FNC praise him.
re: #171 ObserverArt
I kinda like Trumpublicans.
He took them over and they gave up.
Let them always be associated with Trump and the worst U.S. President in history along with one of the worst Republican Senates.
My all time favourite, and I can’t remember who here had it first, was: Branch Trumpidians
re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth
O_o
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Well that’s something I didn’t need to know about.
re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg
My all time favourite, and I can’t remember who here had it first, was: Branch Trumpidians
I like Trumpists.
re: #165 Blind Frog Belly White
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There’s no way that Mitch saves face at this point without Donny losing it. He’s never getting the votes for $5.7B, not without offering something of equal or greater value. This half-assed “compromise” is not that and any talk along those lines is a waste of time. Either Donny is going to have to scale back the asking price or he’s going to have to raise the offer.
re: #161 Charles Johnson
Call me crazy but first on my policy change list is actually prosecute employers of those not entitled to work. When they scream tight labor, open up the quotas to where we get the labor we need, and deal with all fairly. Due process etc etc. California knows how to do this, when seasonal workers have confidence of access they don’t try to settle near the work, at least not illegally.
Charles, you know those quaint places in Ventura like Piru? Founded in the days I speak of and the bosses settled but not the workers. Citrus groves for miles and miles back when. It’s hard not to scream when you know how this can work, how it should rather than this shitshow.
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re: #179 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
fear of whatever they’re told to fear
Yep from a bunch of assholes who tell them to hate city folk from said cities.
re: #170 Flying Squirrel Girl
He still thinks that governing is tweeting
about “Dems are Caving!” and “We have Great Unity!”, then having hundreds of thousands of “likes” for his tweet.
Here’s a Brexit metaphor if I ever saw one.
*BREAKING* 1 cm of snow hits parts of the UK. Report: Derek Whelan pic.twitter.com/KVmnQCaYAA
Wilbur Ross, who has been leading us into a trade war on behalf of the steel industry, says that the number of workers affected by the shutdown is small, so it’s no big deal. A useful chart pic.twitter.com/5sWkjtwug8
— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) January 24, 2019
re: #180 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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re: #185 William Lewis
That, alas, is true. In fact, the announcers on the local classical station reference that quite often that tune X is known from Y cartoon.
If it gets people interested tho, as I told you last night, I first heard Django Reinhardt in a video game. My first exposure to Celtic was in Metal Gear Solid too.
re: #178 Unshaken Defiance
Call me crazy but first on my policy change list is actually prosecute employers of those not entitled to work. When they scream tight labor, open up the quotas to where we get the labor we need, and deal with all fairly. Due process etc etc. California knows how to do this, when seasonal workers have confidence of access they don’t try to settle near the work, at least not illegally.
Charles, you know those quaint places in Ventura like Piru? Founded in the days I speak of and the bosses settled but not the workers. Citrus groves for miles and miles back when. It’s hard not to scream when you know how this can work, how it should rather than this shitshow.
Prosecute employers of those not entitled to work… like Trump (who’s accused of hiring undocumented persons on multiple occasions - first with the demo of the Bonwit Teller building back in the day, and then with the Trump Bedminster golf resort operations). But businesses can’t check with E-Verify, because it’s offline thanks to Trump’s shutdown.
re: #178 Unshaken Defiance
Call me crazy but first on my policy change list is actually prosecute employers of those not entitled to work. When they scream tight labor, open up the quotas to where we get the labor we need, and deal with all fairly. Due process etc etc. California knows how to do this, when seasonal workers have confidence of access they don’t try to settle near the work, at least not illegally.
Charles, you know those quaint places in Ventura like Piru? Founded in the days I speak of and the bosses settled but not the workers. Citrus groves for miles and miles back when. It’s hard not to scream when you know how this can work, how it should rather than this shitshow.
i’ve been saying this for 20 years
it’s right there in the instructions to the I-9
cut the ‘demand’ and make the supply ‘legitimate’
it’s the employers that are skimming and scamming everybody
if you work you pay taxes, get (some) benefits, and workplace protections
re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg
My all time favourite, and I can’t remember who here had it first, was: Branch Trumpidians
That is pretty good.
You’d have thought after telling Trump that he should fire Comey and the Dems would love him for it, that Trump would be less inclined to listen to his idiot son-in-law.
Jared Kushner, fired up by faith in his deal-making prowess, reportedly believes he’s on the cusp of breaking apart the Democratic caucus and delivering a ransom to Trump. @jonathanchait writes https://t.co/iVLtdBhifK
— Intelligencer (@intelligencer) January 24, 2019
re: #167 goddamnedfrank
There’s something absolutely rotten going on over at the AP.
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I’m sorry but what the heck are you talking about. The first tweet came after the first bill was rejected and the second one hadn’t been voted on yet. The second tweet came after the democratic bill also failed. could they send a tweet saying “republicans block democratic bill to reopen the government” sure, but the tweet saying they both failed more accurately summed up the current state of affairs if someone only saw the newer tweet.
re: #180 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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it’s lasted a lifetime and turned into great heaps of discovery
kill the wabbit, indeed.
re: #190 Blind Frog Belly White
You’d have thought after telling Trump that he should fire Comey and the Dems would love him for it, that Trump would be less inclined to listen to his idiot son-in-law.
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re: #188 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
i’ve been saying this for 20 years
it’s right there in the instructions to the I-9
cut the ‘demand’ and make the supply ‘legitimate’it’s the employers that are skimming and scamming everybody
if you work you pay taxes, get (some) benefits, and workplace protections
The problem will be the employers who say, “I can’t find anyone to do this work!”, when what they really mean is “I can’t find anyone who will do this work for the shit wages I want to pay!”
re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White
The problem will be the employers who say, “I can’t find anyone to do this work!”, when what they really mean is “I can’t find anyone who will do this work for the shit wages I want to pay!”
Exactly. They never let wages rise until someone wants to do the work. It’s bullshit top to bottom.
Mexico pays for it.
That’s the down payment. Trump pounds sand and reopens the government, because he lost. He can’t get the votes, and doesn’t know or care how to get the votes for his “plan”— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 24, 2019
re: #109 Charles Johnson
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I thought the first fascist was President Obama. Oh well.
re: #196 lawhawk
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This is a pretty significant walk-back by the WH. After weeks of “We’ll not accept anything less than $5B,” they’re now saying “We’ll accept any CR that gives us money for the wall.”
That gives Mitch a little wiggle room, but it also makes all the whining about Nancy’s offer of $1 being an “insult” look ridiculous.
re: #198 Patricia Kayden
I thought the first fascist was President Obama. Oh well.
I thought it was AOC.
re: #192 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
i learned all about classical music and opera from warner brothers
it’s lasted a lifetime and turned into great heaps of discoverykill the wabbit, indeed.
Easier to remember than “Hoyo Taho!”, or what ever die Walküre sing.
re: #190 Blind Frog Belly White
You’d have thought after telling Trump that he should fire Comey and the Dems would love him for it, that Trump would be less inclined to listen to his idiot son-in-law.
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re: #190 Blind Frog Belly White
You’d have thought after telling Trump that he should fire Comey and the Dems would love him for it, that Trump would be less inclined to listen to his idiot son-in-law.
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He’s apparently as delusional as his father-in-law.
re: #202 KGxvi
but then Trump remembers that Kushner got to nail that [redacted] piece of [redacted] that is Trump’s [redacted] and so he must know what he’s doing.
“He must be at least as smart as I am!”
re: #192 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
i learned all about classical music and opera from warner brothers
it’s lasted a lifetime and turned into great heaps of discoverykill the wabbit, indeed.
Other than our Bach and Palestrina-derived church music, I got into it because the Pittsburgh Symphony adopted our reform school and played in our gym a couple times each year. It was led then by William Steinberg, peace be upon him.
re: #152 Eclectic Cyborg
So, odds of Trump telling Federal workers that Democrats are the reason they are about to miss a second paycheck?
The odds of Trump lying about his shutdown are at 100%.
re: #199 Targetpractice
This is a pretty significant walk-back by the WH. After weeks of “We’ll not accept anything less than $5B,” they’re now saying “We’ll accept any CR that gives us money for the wall.”
That gives Mitch a little wiggle room, but it also makes all the whining about Nancy’s offer of $1 being an “insult” look ridiculous.
Right, but let’s say the Dems offer Trump a deal where he gets say, $1.5 Billion for his wall and agrees to the DACA protections. Does this not still effectively teach him that he can hold federal workers hostage to make Democrats give him what he wants?
I understand the dire need to reopen the government but this would be just a horrible, horrible precedent to set.
re: #195 Old Liberal
Exactly. They never let wages rise until someone wants to do the work. It’s bullshit top to bottom.
It’s the same with complaining about a ‘skills gap’, and not finding people with experience. They don’t want to PAY for the experience, and they don’t want to train people - “What if I spend all that effort training them, and they leave?”
Then you aren’t paying them well enough! Duh.
re: #195 Old Liberal
Exactly. They never let wages rise until someone wants to do the work. It’s bullshit top to bottom.
This is one of the problems with consolidation and the government’s allergy to enforcing anti-trust laws. The fewer businesses that there are in a particular market, the easier it is for them to essentially price fix wages. Workers will be less inclined to change jobs if the only two other shops in two pay the same wages, hell, even if those shops are paying a little bit more they might not jump.
re: #122 Targetpractice
“Neither bill can pass on its own, so Dems must now agree to ‘compromise’ by giving us some portion of our demands.”
NOPE. Not a penny for the wall. Open the government on a clean CR and then negotiate border security. That’s how adults behave.
re: #206 Patricia Kayden
The odds of Trump lying about his shutdown are at 100%.
Based on current polling, the odds of any random one of them believing him are about 7:3 against.
re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg
Right, but let’s say the Dems offer Trump a deal where he gets say, $1.5 Billion for his wall and agrees to the DACA protections. Does this not still effectively teach him that he can hold federal workers hostage to make Democrats give him what he wants?
I understand the dire need to reopen the government but this would be just a horrible, horrible precedent to set.
It does, which is why I don’t think that it’s going to happen. But after weeks of saying “Nothing less than $5B!,” the WH is now saying “We just want money!” That’s a significant sign that Donny has pretty much realized he has no leverage left. At this point, he’s negotiating the terms of his surrender.
re: #211 Patricia Kayden
NOPE. Not a penny for the wall. Open the government on a clean CR and then negotiate border security. That’s how adults behave.
Well, THERE’S your PROBLEM!!
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re: #146 jaunte
Rather than condemn Ertel’s actions, Governor Ron DeSantis responded, “It’s unfortunate. He’s done a lot of good work,” adding that he accepted the resignation because “I don’t want to get mired in side controversies.”
DeSantis is ok with racism, but not “side controversies.” 🤬— TOᑭ ᖇOᑭE TᖇAViS (@TopRopeTravis) January 24, 2019
Dear @GovRonDeSantis
BLACK FACE IS RACISM, NOT A “SIDE CONTROVERSY!”— TOᑭ ᖇOᑭE TᖇAViS (@TopRopeTravis) January 24, 2019
I can’t even be mad anymore. Just disappointed. This is what Florida is, apparently.
re: #215 Citizen K
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I can’t even be mad anymore. Just disappointed. This is what Florida is, apparently.
Well he’s a racist fucker himself.
re: #215 Citizen K
Desantis is an illegitimate governor in my eyes. There was just too much shady shit going on in Florida this past November.
re: #25 uncah91
There is no Pompeo. Only ZUUL!
That might be too kind. Wasn’t Zuul at least female, and thus a step above toxic-male Mike?
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re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg
Right, but let’s say the Dems offer Trump a deal where he gets say, $1.5 Billion for his wall and agrees to the DACA protections. Does this not still effectively teach him that he can hold federal workers hostage to make Democrats give him what he wants?
I understand the dire need to reopen the government but this would be just a horrible, horrible precedent to set.
Yeah. I would require that the bill to reopen set spending levels for the next 24 months.
re: #193 HappyWarrior
Jared assumes that Democrats think he’s a serious adult. He’s still working on adult.
He never started on serious, either
re: #216 HappyWarrior
Well he’s a racist fucker himself.
He was open about it and still managed to win. That speaks depressing volumes about the political atmosphere in the state.
re: #217 Eclectic Cyborg
Desantis is an illegitimate governor in my eyes. There was just too much shady shit going on in Florida this past November.
No doubt there was. It still doesn’t change that, illegitimate or not, Florida is all but stuck with him for now, and shady shit or not, a very significant amount of voters in Florida wanted this, exactly this.
re: #191 danarchy
I’m sorry but what the heck are you talking about. The first tweet came after the first bill was rejected and the second one hadn’t been voted on yet. The second tweet came after the democratic bill also failed. could they send a tweet saying “republicans block democratic bill to reopen the government” sure, but the tweet saying they both failed more accurately summed up the current state of affairs if someone only saw the newer tweet.
What I’m talking about is the first tweet blames Democrats and frames it as them blocking Trump from trying to reopen the government. The second tweet say’s “two competing bills” failed, without giving Democrats any credit for repeatedly trying to reopen the government or mentioning that the second bill was already passed by the Democratic House and was passed by the last Senate unanimously in December. The AP has been pulling this patently rancid bullshit repeatedly recently in tweets and headlines. Here’s a taste:
AP FACT CHECK: Democrats put the blame for the shutdown on Trump. But it takes two to tango. Trump’s demand for $5.7 billion for his border wall is one reason for the budget impasse. The Democrats refusal to approve the money is another. https://t.co/9IWnqUgl2d
— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) January 9, 2019
They got so much shit for that they finally tried to walk it back.
The Associated Press has issued a second statement on the tweet: “The tweet was intended to make clear that both Trump and Democrats have failed to find common ground in their disagreements, but it could have done a better job of explaining the dynamics that have led to the shutdown. The complete AP Fact Check was robust and focused almost exclusively on Trump’s comments.”
They’ve simply presented Trump and the White House’s flagrantly dishonest claims as news, without any educational context. They’ve gotten burned doing this shit over and over again:
We have deleted a tweet about President Trump’s claim that the U.S. is the only country that grants birthright citizenship because it failed to note that his statement was incorrect.
— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) October 30, 2018
Bottom line, there’s an established pattern of Orwellian fuckery going on at the AP. It’s just too much at this point to chalk up to laziness or accident, they’re doing it on purpose.
re: #220 Myron Falwell
He never started on serious, either
Mmmhmm. Seriously Jared is such a mediocrity.
re: #222 goddamnedfrank
AP = Assisting Putin
re: #223 HappyWarrior
Mmmhmm. Seriously Jared is such a mediocrity.
Mediocrity is probably aiming high for him
re: #222 goddamnedfrank
Bottom line, there’s an established pattern of Orwellian fuckery going on at the AP. It’s just too much at this point to chalk up to laziness or accident, they’re doing it on purpose.
Maybe because this is the AP’s Washington Bureau Chief (note banner photo)
@jpaceDC
Are any policies considered too liberal in the 2020 Dem primary? @sppeoples on the early contours of the party’s policy debates https://t.co/sHwthnfcw3
— Julie Pace (@jpaceDC) January 22, 2019
re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth
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in Mooch’s dreams, maybe…
Mooch followed me on twitter a couple months ago. I have no idea why.
re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg
Does this not still effectively teach him that he can hold federal workers hostage to make Democrats give him what he wants?
I understand the reasoning here, but I don’t think it’s as clear as that. For example, the last major shutdown was in 2013. I believe the cause of it had something to do with the GOP not wanting to fund Obamacare. Eventually there was some agreement to end the shutdown, but whatever was conceded, the GOP did not achieve their primary objective. So, on the basis of that, it might be reasonable to conclude that hostage-taking doesn’t work.
But now we’re having a major shutdown again anyway. So, it wouldn’t appear to me that the lesson of not taking hostages doesn’t really work, at least not in the sense of deterring further hostage taking.
The person’s who’s president changes, the makeup of congress change, the issues change, and with all that, the dynamics for hostage taking changes as well. And this is compounded if one of the parties doesn’t much care if there are shutdowns and workstoppages and government workers not getting paychecks indefinitely.
A double rainbow spotted over Long Island! 🌈🌈 pic.twitter.com/hjfIRodUkW
— Eyewitness News (@ABC7NY) January 24, 2019
re: #123 Eclectic Cyborg
So basically, the government is still shut down and we continue to be fucked indefinitely?
Yes. I am still not working; everyone keeps forgetting that while HHS is funded, FDA is not. I feel for the people that are having a hard time and I hope that this mess gets cleaned up soon. The orange shit-goblin has nothing left to negotiate with, the rich are going to be inconvenienced while going to the super bowl, will that cause something to happen?
I am not being cavalier about the solution to this issue, but that or something else causing pain may be what tips the balance.
@jpaceDC Your banner sez “Find your unbiased opinions here”……. This will forefront every AP banner I see in the future. #Sadsycophant
— 🦈DETodd🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) January 24, 2019
Not. Yielding.
Senate Ds push back on Trump demand for “large downpayment” in exchange for 3-week CR
Stabenow said giving into Trump will mean WH will use shutdown to get what it wants next: “What does he hold workers’ wages hostage for next? How many times will he try to hold wages hostage?”— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 24, 2019
The GOP is so screwed here, it’s amazing.
re: #11 Charles Johnson
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re: #236 Myron Falwell
It really is amazing how they have painted themselves into a corner. Not surprising Trump did but surprising in some sense that those who’ve been around for a while went along with it. But then again they didn’t have much choice. They’ve cuffed themselves to trump and thrown away the key.
Truly been a banner day for tone-deaf Trump admin statements about how the shutdown is affecting federal workers https://t.co/LQTM3RIP0g pic.twitter.com/MjU47g8BRc
— Allegra Kirkland (@allegrakirkland) January 24, 2019
re: #236 Myron Falwell
Not. Yielding.
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The GOP is so screwed here, it’s amazing.
If Donny wants money, he has to make a serious offer. Either reopening the government for a long period or pathway to citizenship for Dreamers. Anything less just invites further hostage-taking.
Fifteen percent of Fed employees are eligible to retire right now. They are overrpresented in the unfunded agencies. If this crap continues, many will have to punch out, and the turbulence will be epic.
re: #241 Decatur Deb
Fifteen percent of Fed employees are eligible to retire right now. They are overrpresented in the unfunded agencies. If this crap continues, many will have to punch out, and the turbulence will be epic.
Putin smiles.
re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg
Right, but let’s say the Dems offer Trump a deal where he gets say, $1.5 Billion for his wall and agrees to the DACA protections. Does this not still effectively teach him that he can hold federal workers hostage to make Democrats give him what he wants?
I understand the dire need to reopen the government but this would be just a horrible, horrible precedent to set.
It seems to me that DACA protections would be a pretty serious concession by him, given his rhetoric and how his base feels about it. So I find it difficult to believe he will offer it.
If Dems compromise on just less Wall funding, there will be a lot of people who will wonder whether the mere difference between 5.7 bill and 1.5 bill was worth having a shutdown over.
re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White
The problem will be the employers who say, “I can’t find anyone to do this work!”, when what they really mean is “I can’t find anyone who will do this work for the shit wages I want to pay!”
whether the issue is pay, conditions, location, whatever, if you cant find anyone who will do the work, then you made some wrong assumptions in your business model
especially if the only way you can survive is by breaking the law
if paying true wages would cut your margins to ribbons, again, you made some bad assumptions
flip it:
not enough people want to buy this crap that i sell, or no one wants to pay what i’m asking
these are all ways of saying the world dont bend to you
you dont understand your customer, or your market, or your employees or…
re: #244 Dave In Austin
“We had more! We Won!”
What a moron
I guess the same mathematician that told him his victory was historic told him this.
re: #246 HappyWarrior
I guess the same mathematician that told him his victory was historic told him this.
It’s spewing right now
Evening Lizardim from the snowy, bitterly cold wild north country. How screwed are we tonight?
I don’t think compromise is in order, because that’s really negotiating with a terrorist. You can say, “Here’s the legislation we’ll consider once government reopens,” but absolutely nothing in the CR.
The GOP has to be broken of this habit of taking the USG workforce and the economy as a whole hostage.
re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg
Right, but let’s say the Dems offer Trump a deal where he gets say, $1.5 Billion for his wall and agrees to the DACA protections. Does this not still effectively teach him that he can hold federal workers hostage to make Democrats give him what he wants?
I understand the dire need to reopen the government but this would be just a horrible, horrible precedent to set.
i think (with no proof) the dems are pretty well settled on ‘money for border security’, not for any wall (other than those already in place)
re: #240 Targetpractice
If Donny wants money, he has to make a serious offer. Either reopening the government for a long period or pathway to citizenship for Dreamers. Anything less just invites further hostage-taking.
At this point, I want citizenship for dreamers now. No pathway, because it can be halted.
re: #252 Dave In Austin
Donny’s mad at Wilber……
Donny’s always mad at someone. Miserable old bastard.
re: #253 Belafon
At this point, I want citizenship for dreamers now. No pathway, because it can be halted.
Right. Lest we forget DACA is a compromise itself.
re: #238 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
It really is amazing how they have painted themselves into a corner. Not surprising Trump did but surprising in some sense that those who’ve been around for a while went along with it. But then again they didn’t have much choice. They’ve cuffed themselves to trump and thrown away the key.
Not only have they painted themselves into a corner, they fucked up — completely fucked up — an escape from an unwinnable situation. This gave the Democrats ammo against them, and those who voted no on the clean CR — or those who didn’t vote.
In a week, Mitch may be wishing he wasn’t the majority leader.
re: #231 HappyWarrior
Did they ask the same question of the GOP who had people including the now President that wanted to reverse a century and change of precedent on citizenship law.
More than that. The 14th Amendment basically just reversed the Dred Scott decision. For the first time ever, there was a substantial population that weren’t citizens, even though they were born here. The 14th took care of that, but birthright citizenship was baked into English Common Law for centuries before there was a United States—and if the wingnuts are about anything, it’s English Common law. That and Jesus wrote the King James Bible in English.
re: #257 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
More than that. The 14th Amendment basically just reversed the Dred Scott decision. For the first time ever, there was a substantial population that weren’t citizens, even though they were born here. The 14th took care of that, but birthright citizenship was baked into English Common Law for centuries before there was a United States—and if the wingnuts are about anything, it’s English Common law. That and Jesus wrote the King James Bible in English.
I was having a neat conversation about citizenship with an Irishman. Birthright citizenship was a thing way back when. Eliminating it is yet another example of how radical the right is.
Trump claims victory in Senate vote on GOP shutdown proposal, saying
“we won 50-47.”
Then he notes: but 60 votes needed.— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) January 24, 2019
You got 50. We got 52. 52 > 50. By that criterion, WE won.
Except, you know that’s not the criterion.
re: #259 Blind Frog Belly White
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You got 50. We got 52. 52 > 50. By that criterion, WE won.
Except, you know that’s not the criterion.
Math is hard.
re: #258 HappyWarrior
I was having a neat conversation about citizenship with an Irishman. Birthright citizenship was a thing way back when. Eliminating it is yet another example of how radical the right is.
Paul, as in Saint Paul the Apostle, was “born a [Roman] citizen”, per the book of Acts. Rome had some citizenship laws that look similar to modern states.
“we won 50-47.”
It’s not a football game, you jackass. Nobody won anything when you only made 50 when you had to get 60. You ran fucking CASINOS, you should understand this. Gah.
re: #251 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
i think (with no proof) the dems are pretty well settled on ‘money for border security’, not for any wall (other than those already in place)
I can potentially see a “compromise” that includes more border money, some DACA or other admin concessions, and vague Dem statements about how the extra money isn’t for The Wall, but which can be used for that purpose anyway. Future work on The Wall can be blamed on projects already agreed to, etc.
re: #262 Eclectic Cyborg
“we won 50-47.”
It’s not a football game, you jackass. Nobody won anything when you only made 50 when you had to get 60. You ran fucking CASINOS, you should understand this. Gah.
Yes, but he ran them into the ground, so…..
re: #259 Blind Frog Belly White
You got 50. We got 52. 52 > 50. By that criterion, WE won.
Except, you know that’s not the criterion.
Has he tweeted about “MITCH DO THE NUKE OPTION FAST BE SMART!” yet?
/
re: #259 Blind Frog Belly White
You got 50. We got 52. 52 > 50. By that criterion, WE won.
Except, you know that’s not the criterion.
If DJT “won” does that mean he gets Moar Wall Moneys?
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This beautiful cuckoo wasp (Chrysis sp.) is from a collaboration with @DukeEnergy looking at insect diversity in power line right of ways in Florida. These right of ways can serve as important pollinator habitat. 📸 Jon Bremer pic.twitter.com/X4B3GnwEVy
— Daniels Lab (@JCDanielsLab) January 24, 2019
re: #253 Belafon
At this point, I want citizenship for dreamers now. No pathway, because it can be halted.
Yes. This so much. Dreamers are Americans and should granted citizenship. A pathway to is complete bullshit.
THERE IS AN EMERGENCY
It is millions of federal workers, SNAP recipients and others who are not getting paid.
THAT IS THE EMERGENCY https://t.co/mvOofGsJUY— Karoli (@Karoli) January 24, 2019
re: #252 Dave In Austin
Donny’s mad at Wilber……
Wilber needs to remember that this kind of talk needs to be kept private.
/
re: #262 Eclectic Cyborg
“we won 50-47.”
It’s not a football game, you jackass. Nobody won anything when you only made 50 when you had to get 60. You ran fucking CASINOS, you should understand this. Gah.
…into the ground
re: #268 Colère Tueur de Lapin
Yes. This so much. Dreamers are Americans and should granted citizenship. A pathway to is complete bullshit.
You read about these people. This is all they’ve known. That anyone would want to deport them is absurd.
re: #268 Colère Tueur de Lapin
Yes. This so much. Dreamers are Americans and should granted citizenship. A pathway to is complete bullshit.
Were they born here or brought here when they were young?
Large down payment, she said, would “not be a reasonable agreement.”
— Mike DeBonis (@mikedebonis) January 24, 2019
re: #262 Eclectic Cyborg
“we won 50-47.”
It’s not a football game, you jackass. Nobody won anything when you only made 50 when you had to get 60. You ran fucking CASINOS, you should understand this. Gah.
so the shutdown’s over?
asshat
re: #275 Sir John Barron
Were they born here or brought here when they were young?
Brought when they were young, too young to remember their original country.
re: #262 Eclectic Cyborg
“we won 50-47.”
It’s not a football game, you jackass. Nobody won anything when you only made 50 when you had to get 60. You ran fucking CASINOS, you should understand this. Gah.
Uhm. He failed at running casinos. He. Does. Not. Understand. Anything. Relevant.
re: #262 Eclectic Cyborg
“we won 50-47.”
It’s not a football game, you jackass. Nobody won anything when you only made 50 when you had to get 60. You ran fucking CASINOS, you should understand this. Gah.
Well, he clearly can’t count. I betcha he can’t count to 100 or perform simple calculations.
re: #269 jaunte
[White House preparing draft national emergency order and identified $7 billion for wall]
So, ‘the Wall’ is the hill Trump wants to die on. I’m starting to see that’s perfectly OK.
re: #275 Sir John Barron
Were they born here or brought here when they were young?
In this situation, I don’t care.
re: #280 Myron Falwell
Well, he clearly can’t count. I betcha he can’t count to 100 or perform simple calculations.
Look this is the guy who said - in a deposition! - when challenged that he only owned 30% of a company he’d claimed to own 50% of, that he ‘felt like he owned 50%’.
Whatever the fuck THAT means.
re: #278 Belafon
Brought when they were young, too young to remember their original country.
Right, yeah I was just thinking that if they were born here they would automatically be citizens, which I know DJT and his base don’t like and want to change.
re: #281 wrenchwench
So, ‘the Wall’ is the hill Trump wants to die on. I’m starting to see that’s perfectly OK.
Time to revive a slogan from my yoot:
UP AGAINST THE WALL, MOTHERFUCKER!!
re: #281 wrenchwench
So, ‘the Wall’ is the hill Trump wants to die on. I’m starting to see that’s perfectly OK.
Unlike the 300, this is not a noble defeat. This is more like Little Bighorn.
re: #283 Blind Frog Belly White
Look this is the guy who said - in a deposition! - when challenged that he only owned 30% of a company he’d claimed to own 50% of, that he ‘felt like he owned 50%’.
Whatever the fuck THAT means.
If he “thinks” he owned 50%, or won the Senate vote, then obviously he really did.
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trump is obsessed with duct taping women.
— Aღanda (@GrnEyedMandy) January 24, 2019
Oh fuck, what is spewing out of his sewer mouth now?
re: #285 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Time to revive a slogan from my yoot:
UP AGAINST THE WALL, MOTHERFUCKER!!
BUILD THE WALL MONEY WONT FALL
Oh, man…..
Can’t be living in the past, man. Stay tuned. pic.twitter.com/zL2CLYhGAM
— Jeff Bridges (@TheJeffBridges) January 24, 2019
Tulsi Gabbard is the Jill Steins of Bernie Sanders. https://t.co/OeeYa2yFWz
— Quinn Cummings (@quinncy) January 24, 2019
re: #291 I Would Prefer Not To
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Making fools out of those who expected her to actually work at it!
re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg
My all time favourite, and I can’t remember who here had it first, was: Branch Trumpidians
Trumporrhoids
Someone needs to increase their DIN setting.
The head tap initiating the double eject is 2050 status #Jerrytripledouble #headtapdoubleejecto
👉 (https://t.co/0AeT1ZggIT) 👈 pic.twitter.com/W1WpJEg5R7— Jerry of the Day (@jerryoftheday) January 24, 2019
re: #291 I Would Prefer Not To
It’s all about the resume. Seriously…..
re: #184 Blind Frog Belly White
Sometimes I would like to join twitter, just to tell Paul Krugman how wonderful he is. The only NYT person with a clue.
re: #298 fern01
Sometimes I would like to join twitter, just to tell Paul Krugman how wonderful he is. The only NYT person with a clue.
They break great stories, and then say stupid shit.
“We need to Overcome people who believe they have a monopoly on wisdom”
M. Bennett
I would like the House to pass legislation where either everyone gets paid or no one gets paid during a shutdown. Don’t know if the Senate would pass it because conservatives love their shutdowns. No one would dare provoke a shutdown if Social Security would stop. It’s wrong to have carved out a piece of Federal workers and no one else pays a price.
re: #285 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Time to revive a slogan from my yoot:
UP AGAINST THE WALL, MOTHERFUCKER!!
That was my thought yesterday. I coudn’t make an acceptable comment about it. Then I forgot all about it. Thanks for bringing it back. It’s so full of optimism…..
re: #281 wrenchwench
So, ‘the Wall’ is the hill Trump wants to die on. I’m starting to see that’s perfectly OK.
and it’s an anthill.
a fireanthill if there is any karma…
re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth
and it’s an anthill.
a fireanthill if there is any karma…
more like an underground wasp’s nest
Trump apparently thinks the grocery store will just give you food for free if you tell them your job isn’t paying you. pic.twitter.com/vN4oxurNqq
— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) January 24, 2019
Once again, Trump is exploiting the issue of human trafficking to make a false case for his wall.
Trafficking experts say Trump’s depiction (of women being kidnapped, bound with duct tape, & shoved into vehicles) comes from the movies, not real life.https://t.co/HJuIxEjE6a— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) January 24, 2019
This amazing word salad from the President is far more mysterious and unintelligible than anything Sarah Palin *ever* said pic.twitter.com/uIYet4rBl6
— Brandon Friedman (@BFriedmanDC) January 24, 2019
re: #185 William Lewis
That, alas, is true. In fact, the announcers on the local classical station reference that quite often that tune X is known from Y cartoon.
I remember going to see Rossini’s The Thieving Magpie at the Frankfurt Opera and when they started into the overture, I could not get the image of Bugs Bunny tiptoeing through the garden to it…
re: #307 HappyWarrior
Incredibly out of touch even for him.
I think he’s actually losing it. Which a such a ridiculously low bar, I know.
This is simple:
1. “We will inflict pain on others if you don’t give us what we want” is extortion.
2. Government by extortion is unworkable.
3. Never negotiate with extortionists.
4. If you can’t get the policies you want through Constitutional means, too bad - that’s democracy.— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) January 24, 2019
re: #226 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Trump picks Red Square as alternate location for SOTU address
that was in a recent Steven Colbert Monologue
This. Fucking. Guy.
Trump again offers disturbing commentary about kidnapping “where they tie up women & they put duct tape on their mouths & they put them in the back seat of a car or in a van. They don’t come through a port of entry… they make a left turn, they’re in the US… we need the wall.” pic.twitter.com/vsLTHZBlSe
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 24, 2019
re: #109 Charles Johnson
Wait- I thought the Illegitimate Kenyan Usurper was America’s first fascist?
Infantile Idiots.
re: #313 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
that was in a recent Steven Colbert Monologue
(He’s not really a Shiplord. He’s a comedy writer.)
re: #306 jaunte
It’s like you people haven’t even watched Sicario 2: Electric Boogaloo.
re: #314 teleskiguy
They don’t come through a port of entry… they make a left turn, they’re in the US
We’ve got to capture them to extract the secret of teleportation.
re: #314 teleskiguy
This. Fucking. Guy.
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trump interpreting what someone else is saying? He can’t even interpret his own words.
re: #315 Rocky-in-Connecticut
Wait- I thought the Illegitimate Kenyan Usurper was America’s first fascist?
Infantile Idiots.
Levin hasn’t had an original thought in his life.
I’m Glen Plake. https://t.co/hpGbTHzF9r
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) January 24, 2019
They know…they always know…
Going to the beach, yes we’re going to the beach… pic.twitter.com/2T3YkYDUd5
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) January 24, 2019
Orange asshole is getting ready to triple down:
Washington (CNN)The White House is preparing a draft proclamation for President Donald Trump to declare a national emergency along the southern border and has identified more than $7 billion in potential funds for his signature border wall should he go that route, according to internal documents reviewed by CNN.
Trump has not ruled out using his authority to declare a national emergency and direct the Defense Department to construct a border wall as Congress and the White House fight over a deal to end the government shutdown. But while Trump’s advisers remain divided on the issue, the White House has been moving forward with alternative plans that would bypass Congress.
“The massive amount of aliens who unlawfully enter the United States each day is a direct threat to the safety and security of our nation and constitutes a national emergency,” a draft of a presidential proclamation reads.
“Now, therefore, I, Donald J. Trump, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C 1601, et seq.), hereby declare that a national emergency exists at the southern border of the United States,” the draft adds.
The draft was updated as recently as last week, a US government official told CNN.
re: #323 Eclectic Cyborg
It’s not like anyone else hasn’t been doing all the prep work to stop this insane piece of shit. Trump’s utter indecision and inactivity over making such a declaration made THAT possible.
re: #323 Eclectic Cyborg
“The massive amount of aliens who unlawfully enter the United States each day
“massive” amount of “aliens”……
Just massive, these aliens.
/
The plan is illegal. Former DoD Deputy General Counsel Bob Taylor suggests that, before following any order from Trump to carry it out, military officials should consider “their potential criminal exposure.” /3https://t.co/Qwhb7qbXzj
— Sam Berger (@SamBerger_DC) January 13, 2019
Damn near everything Trump does is illegal. When is it going to matter?
re: #325 Myron Falwell
It’s not like anyone else hasn’t been doing all the prep work to stop this insane piece of shit. Trump’s utter indecision and inactivity over making such a declaration made THAT possible.
“Fine. See you in court.”
/
re: #226 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
To be fair that was his first choice, but Vlad said it was too soon.
Does Trump think Venezuela is on the US southern border? Does he think the 10% of their population who have left all came here?
re: #327 jaunte
Jesus, this is gonna blow up in his face before it even gets to court.
re: #323 Eclectic Cyborg
Let’s be fair, though. Remember when Obummer issued the executive order that took everyone’s guns and Jade Helm? That was real tyranny.
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Worth the three minutes.
More of this. We need more of this.
Gentle debate is a luxury only affordable in softer times.
Thank you, Senator. Epic.
pic.twitter.com/WAIz7RkcsN— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) January 24, 2019
re: #327 jaunte
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From there:
but the cry of “wolf” when there is no wolf erodes the credibility of the crier
Most of us learned that shortly after learning to read. Trump’s not there yet.
Wilbur Ross is @realDonaldTrump’s Secretary of Commerce.
Wilbur Ross is a billionaire.
And this is billionaire Wilbur Ross saying he doesn’t understand why federal workers not getting paid during the #TrumpShutdown don’t just take out loans *to feed their families*.
Unreal. pic.twitter.com/YHHZqKa8sx— Chuck Schumer (@SenSchumer) January 24, 2019
The hair is getting weirder. pic.twitter.com/1b8TefoH4Y
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 24, 2019
Thread:
First of all. There’s no wall. There isn’t going to be a wall. There was never going to be a wall. It’s a metaphor, a story that was constructed by Trump as a means to get elected and having this fight is a means of either saying he’s getting the wall or saying he tried. 2/
— Jared Yates Sexton (@JYSexton) January 24, 2019
re: #338 Charles Johnson
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any day now his eyebrows will be incorporated into his swoofy bangs.
“swoofy bangs”
read/translate that into whatever image you so choose…
good band name, tho
re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth
any day now his eyebrows will be incorporated into his swoofy bangs.
Is the White House stylist working without pay?
re: #343 Old Liberal
Is the White House stylist working without pay?
according to the moron, he does his own hair.
it’s kinda obvious, innit?
All hell is going to break loose tomorrow when folks aren’t paid.
re: #343 Old Liberal
Is the White House stylist working without pay?
No but the WH rodent hunter is furloughed.
Trump Capitalizes words he thinks are Important in his Tweets
Some would point out that this was not uncommon in Old English and praise him for his Command of English Historical Grammar
re: #345 Joe Bacon 🌹
All hell is going to break loose tomorrow when folks aren’t paid.
from what I’m seeing online (not just on twitter), people are taking to the streets tomorrow.
“May the odds be ever in your favor.” https://t.co/UGox8zyCtv
— (((Robert Arthur))) (@jaunte) January 24, 2019
More Wilbur Ross shit breaking out in Davos.
re: #327 jaunte
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Why do we think tRump expects the military to expropriate American land? Why wouldn’t he think that once he declares an emergency and calls out the Military, that they can just cross the border and build the wall on Mexican territory?
Can anyone think of a reason why the thing in the WH could get re-elected at this point? I think the electorial edge has been stripped away.
re: #286 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Unlike the 300, this is not a noble defeat. This is more like Little Bighorn.
um… the side that lost Little Bighorn… their replacements came back strong. And the people who won Little Bighorn, that was their last hurrah. They got royally fucked fairly soon after.
re: #347 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Trump Capitalizes words he thinks are Important in his Tweets
Some would point out that this was not uncommon in Old English and praise him for his Command of English Historical Grammar
‘Cause you can’t italicize anything in tweets. Why the bejesus fuck can’t you use HTML tags at least?
re: #351 Dave In Austin
Can anyone think of a reason why the thing in the WH could get re-elected at this point? I think the electorial edge has been stripped away.
Russia.
re: #350 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Why do we think tRump expects the military to expropriate American land? Why wouldn’t he think that once he declares an emergency and calls out the Military, that they can just cross the border and build the wall on Mexican territory?
then they would have to pay for it!!!
re: #354 Eclectic Cyborg
Russia.
I hear ya but I really think we’re ready this time. Trump won’t be the person that becomes the fourth consecutive two termer. That said the left needs to unite behind its nominee.
re: #355 Joe Bacon 🌹
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.
Sigh I remember 2004 too well man.
re: #357 HappyWarrior
I hear ya but I really think we’re ready this time. Trump won’t be the person that becomes the fourth consecutive two termer. That said the left needs to unite behind its nominee.
And hope they don’t get shafted by the Greens again.
In shocking twist, a fixed barrier can be surmounted by common device used for climbing. https://t.co/NxHagbk4H9
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) January 24, 2019
re: #359 Eclectic Cyborg
And hope they don’t get shafted by the Greens again.
In my experience the Greens do their best when Republicans have been out of the WH for awhile I.e. 2000 and 2016. Nader didn’t cause Kerry to lose in 2004 and Stein didn’t Obama in 2012. What we need to do is build a strong left so amnesia not set in 2024 or 2028.
re: #351 Dave In Austin
Can anyone think of a reason why the thing in the WH could get re-elected at this point? I think the electorial edge has been stripped away.
Hell, the whole party is spiraling down with him. 2020 is going to make the 2018 midterms look like a trip to Disney World.
re: #358 HappyWarrior
Sigh I remember 2004 too well man.
I’ve said many times, if the election fraud in Ohio hadn’t denied Kerry his Electoral victory from 3,000,000 votes behind in the popular vote, A: That would not have stood, and 2: The Electoral College would be gone by now.
re: #360 jaunte
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Look at what people did to escape East Germany but seeing as Donnie’s handler is an old GDR case agent…
What Trump is proposing is not legal. The relevant statute authorizes construction expenditures “necessary” to “support” a deployment of armed forces “required” by a declared national emergency—here the wall is itself the rationale for deployment. https://t.co/uOPU3cFiSA
— Julian Sanchez (@normative) January 24, 2019
Trump: The American Maduro
re: #363 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
I’ve said many times, if the election fraud in Ohio hadn’t denied Kerry his Electoral victory from 3,000,000 votes behind in the popular vote, A: That would not have stood, and 2: The Electoral College would be gone by now.
Kerry. Kerry would have been a good President.
re: #362 Myron Falwell
Hell, the whole party is spiraling down with him. 2020 is going to make the 2018 midterms look like a trip to Disney World.
One would think. We’re going to have to adapt to Russia, they’re always going to be there.
re: #362 Myron Falwell
Hell, the whole party is spiraling down with him. 2020 is going to make the 2018 midterms look like a trip to Disney World.
To me, I’m tbh optimistic about 2020. I’m worried about amnesia later.
re: #358 HappyWarrior
Sigh I remember 2004 too well man.
W. was bad but this is catastrophic bad. There’s no means of comparison for this.
re: #362 Myron Falwell
Hell, the whole party is spiraling down with him. 2020 is going to make the 2018 midterms look like a trip to Disney World.
Overconfidence is not good. Remember, Hillary was projected to win “in a landslide” only two and a half weeks before the vote in 2016.
re: #367 Dave In Austin
One would think. We’re going to have to adapt to Russia, they’re always going to be there.
I’m all in favor of hitting Vlad where it hurts when a non asset of his gets the presidency back.
re: #370 Eclectic Cyborg
Overconfidence is not good. Remember, Hillary was projected to win “in a landslide” only two and a half weeks before the vote in 2016.
You are right but Trump actually has to run on his record this time. Trump is someone imo who will be weaker as an incumbent than challenger.
re: #369 Myron Falwell
W. was bad but this is catastrophic bad. There’s no means of comparison for this.
I know. I thought W was peak awful.
re: #370 Eclectic Cyborg
Overconfidence is not good. Remember, Hillary was projected to win “in a landslide” only two and a half weeks before the vote in 2016.
I dunno. I may be guilty of tying to assess a situation by normal means where one person is going clinically insane.
re: #370 Eclectic Cyborg
Overconfidence is not good. Remember, Hillary was projected to win “in a landslide” only two and a half weeks before the vote in 2016.
Two million votes is a landslide in most elections, but not in the US Electoral College system
re: #351 Dave In Austin
Can anyone think of a reason why the thing in the WH could get re-elected at this point? I think the electorial edge has been stripped away.
1) Russians
2) Election fraud
3) A media that has learned nothing other than Trump brings ratings
4) The magical balance fairy that has to blame both sides equally.
5) Fox “news” and hate radio.
re: #375 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Two million votes is a landslide in most elections, but not in the US Electoral College system
As I said above. I think that landscape has changed. He’s hurt to many of us….
If Coast Guard members are killed during shutdown, their families won’t get benefits @CNNPolitics https://t.co/QqCM33w2fn
— Dan Berman (@DHBerman) January 24, 2019
I can’t think of any reason why a Coast Guard member would ever vote R again.
re: #378 jaunte
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I can’t think of any reason why a Coast Guard member would ever vote R again.
My moms cousin was telling me that one of her nephews is furloughed because of the shutdown. Can’t imsg he’s too happy but you can’t underestimate how Republicans exploit prejudices.
re: #375 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Two million votes is a landslide in most elections, but not in the US Electoral College system
You piss off the wrong states, and it’s gonna cost you. He got lucky with Pennsylvania, Michigan and even Wisconsin. Arizona has an SOS with reform on her mind, Nevada’s a swing state too.
re: #378 jaunte
“If Coast Guard members are killed during shutdown, their families won’t get benefits.”
That is utterly appalling.
I for one thought Trump’s treatment of McCain and the Khans would infuriate even the most red conservative of vets. I was wrong.
re: #178 Unshaken Defiance
Call me crazy but first on my policy change list is actually prosecute employers of those not entitled to work. When they scream tight labor, open up the quotas to where we get the labor we need, and deal with all fairly. Due process etc etc. California knows how to do this, when seasonal workers have confidence of access they don’t try to settle near the work, at least not illegally.
…
I agree that if anyone were serious about stopping undocumented people from “stealing” jobs from ‘muricans, then rather than stopping people from crossing the border, you should go after the employers. But Trump does not want to perp-walk white guys——-that would be the wrong photo op for appealing to his base. If you want photo ops of brown people being punished you focus on things like ICE and walls.
re: #382 Eclectic Cyborg
“If Coast Guard members are killed during shutdown, their families won’t get benefits.”
That is utterly appalling.
Words fail.
re: #379 Colère Tueur de Lapin
Fat squirrel break.
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On that note, we had owl sign in the cedar breaks last evening. Love is in the air. This is year 3 for these guys.
re: #381 Myron Falwell
You piss off the wrong states, and it’s gonna cost you. He got lucky with Pennsylvania, Michigan and even Wisconsin. Arizona has an SOS with reform on her mind, Nevada’s a swing state too.
We won Nevada. But yes.
re: #307 HappyWarrior
Incredibly out of touch even for him.
“They work along… the banks, the people that collect the mortgages, they work along…”
Ask Steve Mnuchin how that works (he foreclosed on thousands)
Dumbest Thing Said By a Republican in 2019 shaping up to be a humdinger of a horse race. Ball’s in your court, Gunfucker Barbie. https://t.co/j319pbPNSh
— Dharma and Gelato at ConAgra (@count_01) January 24, 2019
re: #383 HappyWarrior
I for one thought Trump’s treatment of McCain and the Khans would infuriate even the most red conservative of vets. I was wrong.
To put their veteran-ness ahead of (or equal to) their conservatism would be playing identity politics. They would be chastised by fellow conservatives.
re: #184 Blind Frog Belly White
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Wow, I know most Americans don’t like graphs, but that one should be shown on all the news shows. It is simple to read and really puts the hypocrisy surrounding the shutdown into perspective.
re: #389 teleskiguy
Don’t worry, you naughty little fraudster. He’ll be Tweeting!
— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) January 24, 2019
re: #389 teleskiguy
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I am all for telling the people of the US that the republicans want Trump to hold his SOTU during the Super Bowl halftime instead of a musical act.
Everyone should know that the republicans want this to happen, I plan on telling everyone down at the hipster coffee shop.
re: #392 Joe Bacon 🌹
Does this little dweeb really think CBS would give Trump air time during halftime?
Go ahead Don. Declare a national emergency over this. Then when you’re replaced with a Democrat, they’ll declare a real national emergency over guns and healthcare. You’re setting the precedent.
re: #394 KGxvi
Does this little dweeb really think CBS would give Trump air time during halftime?
I think so. He seems to actually believe Russia is a force for good.
re: #394 KGxvi
Does this little dweeb really think CBS would give Trump air time during halftime?
And I thought the GOP hated the NFL?
re: #394 KGxvi
Does this little dweeb really think CBS would give Trump air time during halftime?
Yes. He is that dumb.
re: #396 HappyWarrior
I think so. He seems to actually believe Russia is a force for good.
Who? Wohl or Trump?
I’m sure the latter believes that: for him, Russia has basically been a “force for good” - where “good” is defined as shoveling money at Trump businesses…
.@KamalaHarris - it sure would nice to have your intelligence, compassion and dignity in the White House.
— Mick Foley (@RealMickFoley) January 24, 2019
Here comes the “shut up and wrestle” comments from triggered Right Wingers.
re: #360 jaunte
This video shows that having a camera in the right location works.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) January 24, 2019
re: #395 GlutenFreeJesus
Go ahead Don. Declare a national emergency over this. Then when you’re replaced with a Democrat, they’ll declare a real national emergency over guns and healthcare. You’re setting the precedent.
No thank you. I would prefer instead of doubling down and perpetuating authoritarianism, that a future Dem president would sign legislation to help prevent that sort of executive abuse by any future wanna be dictator.
re: #400 DodgerFan1988
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Here comes the “shut up and wrestle” comments from triggered Right Wingers.
Well, he’s retired now and can’t wrestle, so…
re: #398 Joe Bacon 🌹
Yes. He is that dumb.
I know he’s dumb, after the whole “Kamala Harris isn’t a natural born citizen” thing the other day but this level of stupidity is on the “help so he doesn’t drown in the rain” level.
Fixed it: Wilbur Ross dubbed over Mr. Burns pic.twitter.com/a0zebOBZoR
— ElElegante101 (@skolanach) January 24, 2019
re: #404 danarchy
No thank you. I would prefer instead of doubling down and perpetuating authoritarianism, that a future Dem president would sign legislation to help prevent that sort of executive abuse by any future wanna be dictator.
The real check on that sort of move is impeachment and removal. But the Senate GOP is too scared to actually do that, even if/when the Supreme Court blocks the move and reaffirms Youngstown Steel.
re: #394 KGxvi
Does this little dweeb really think CBS would give Trump air time during halftime?
Who’s performing at halftime? Is it Cardi B?
re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #409 The Vicious Babushka
Who’s performing at halftime? Is it Cardi B?
Maroon 5. Which is appropriate as Trump and the GOP are marooned in a five alarm disaster of their own making.
re: #407 gocart mozart
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If only you could use the Simpsons to appeal to the youth like in the old days. Back then, ‘youth’ was my youngest brother, 10 years younger than me. He’s still ten years younger, but he’s turning 51 this year. No longer youth.
A bitter cold air mass will slide into the eastern half of the U.S. early next week. A reminder that this cold wave is called “weather” & it is wintertime. Putting this out there in advance of the “what happened to #GLOBALWARMING?” comments sure to come! #cowx pic.twitter.com/lNebi84Tg9
— Mike Nelson (@MikeNelson247) January 24, 2019
re: #413 teleskiguy
Yup. Wednesday’s forecast here shows -11 degrees F for a high and -27 degrees F for a low. Anyone want to come visit?
So, did AOC learn from Mick Foley or did Mick Foley learn from AOC?
Luckily, my public support of @JohnCena has prepared me for much of the criticism that comes with expressing an occasional political opinion.
— Mick Foley (@RealMickFoley) January 24, 2019
re: #406 KGxvi
I know he’s dumb, after the whole “Kamala Harris isn’t a natural born citizen” thing the other day but this level of stupidity is on the “help so he doesn’t drown in the rain” level.
I wonder who is dumber—Jacob, Gun Girl, SMOTI, Benjyboy or Charlie Jerk?
re: #411 Myron Falwell
Maroon 5. Which is appropriate as Trump and the GOP are marooned in a five alarm disaster of their own making.
I always think “Wadda maroon!” from Bugs Bunny. But then I’m childish….
Lol
The shutdown is over.
Trump’s enablers know it.
The Senate GOP knows it.
The only reason for the delay now is for Republicans to beg for some face-saving action so that Donald Trump isn’t further humiliated.
Guess what?
Too late. Reap it.https://t.co/ksFqFvvyIC— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) January 24, 2019
This is going to go over like a wet fart in church:
“The massive amount of aliens who unlawfully enter the United States each day is a direct threat to the safety and security of our nation and constitutes a national emergency,” a draft of a presidential proclamation reads.
“Now, therefore, I, Donald J. Trump, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C 1601, et seq.), hereby declare that a national emergency exists at the southern border of the United States,” the draft adds.
The moment it is signed, there’s going to be law suits filed (I’m guessing complaints are already written). And it could very well be tied up in litigation until January 2021. But it really should be grounds for impeachment (so, you know, add it to that list)
re: #419 Myron Falwell
Lol
Sucks to be him. Hey Mike, I bet you feel right at home, don’t you? Isn’t this how things were going in Indiana up until Trump’s cronies stuck you to his ass?
re: #395 GlutenFreeJesus
Go ahead Don. Declare a national emergency over this. Then when you’re replaced with a Democrat, they’ll declare a real national emergency over guns and healthcare. You’re setting the precedent.
this is privately scaring the shit out of the R’s
re: #417 Joe Bacon 🌹
I wonder who is dumber—Jacob, Gun Girl, SMOTI, Benjyboy or Charlie Jerk?
Tough to say.
re: #417 Joe Bacon 🌹
I wonder who is dumber—Jacob, Gun Girl, SMOTI, Benjyboy or Charlie Jerk?
All of them, Katie!
re: #417 Joe Bacon 🌹
I wonder who is dumber—Jacob, Gun Girl, SMOTI, Benjyboy or Charlie Jerk?
I’m not sure their combined brain power could activate a 75 watt lightbulb
re: #415 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Yup. Wednesday’s forecast here shows -11 degrees F for a high and -27 degrees F for a low. Anyone want to come visit?
People here ask me why I don’t go back to the States for winter holiday. This here is why. Most of my family is inside that cold air mass.
re: #384 KerFuFFler
I agree that if anyone were serious about stopping undocumented people from “stealing” jobs from ‘muricans, then rather than stopping people from crossing the border, you should go after the employers. But Trump does not want to perp-walk white guys——-that would be the wrong photo op for appealing to his base. If you want photo ops of brown people being punished you focus on things like ICE and walls.
he’s have to perpwalk himself, what with the housekeepers at his golf resorts just for starters
re: #426 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
People here ask me why I don’t go back to the States for winter holiday. This here is why. Most of my family is inside that cold air mass.
And that’s ambient air temperature. Wind chills will be in the realm of -40 (degrees F and degrees C) or below.
re: #419 Myron Falwell
Lol
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My new prediction: The shutdown collapses and tRump gets to make his SOTU address. Since his dementia is obviously getting worse by the day, he completely blows a gasket and starts gibbering like a monkey in front of both Houses of Congress on every network.
Of course the MAGAts will say he’s speaking in tongues, and that proves he’s the Second Coming, or some shit….
The scenario:
Today: Bills fail in Senate.
Friday: McConnell tells Trump can get some border $$ but mostly not for wall. Pelosi tells Trump SOTU still possible if a deal.
Monday: Deal. House and Senate pass bill, Trump caves and signs.
Tuesday: Govt open, Trump gets to give SOTU.— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) January 24, 2019
re: #425 Myron Falwell
I’m not sure their combined brain power could activate a 75 watt lightbulb
.75 watt might be more accurate 😏
re: #429 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
My new prediction: The shutdown collapses and tRump gets to make his SOTU address. Since his dementia is obviously getting worse by the day, he completely blows a gasket and starts gibbering like a monkey in front of both Houses of Congress on every network.
Of course the MAGAts will say he’s speaking in tongues, and that proves he’s the Second Coming, or some shit….
Can’t wait to see the Dingbat David Brody tweet proclaiming ”he’s playing fifth-dimensional chess with the English language!!!”
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