Jazz Supergroup: Redman Mehldau McBride Blade, “Father”

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To be honest, the sound quality of this video isn’t the best, but the quality of the jam more than makes up for it.

Joshua Redman, Brad Mehldau, Christian McBride, and Brian Blade perform “Father,” from their album ‘RoundAgain,’ due July 10 on Nonesuch Records. Download the track now when you pre-order the album: smarturl.it

Filmed by Matthew Beighley and Jacqueline Santillan live at the Falcon in Marlboro, NY, on September 7, 2019.

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EPR-radar  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:38:01pm

Fuck that motherfucking fucker Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:38:20pm

May I be the first to post…

FUCK TRUMP!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:38:27pm

Here I am, back with a godly, decent, upstanding desktop computer, the way computing was meant to be; rather than the heathenish idiocratic hell-phone.

Oh, and FUCK TRUMP (again)!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:39:03pm
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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:39:14pm

re: #530 The Pie Overlord!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:39:28pm

I am well aware that I am not the first, but I’m going to do it anyway: For the rest, I hold that Donald J. Trump should get absolutely fucked.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:39:35pm

Thank you, Charles (and fuck Trump, though I can’t see why anyone would want to).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:39:49pm

fucktrump

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:42:29pm
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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:42:34pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:43:23pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:43:49pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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They’re on backorder from China. 8-12 weeks.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:44:08pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:44:45pm

I just got an emergency text that NYC has an 11PM curfew. Never wanted to go out past 11 more, but I won’t. Fuck trump.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:44:57pm

re: #525 gocart mozart

There’s always a tweet.

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DesertDenizen  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:46:06pm

re: #14 I Would Prefer Not To

Yesterday the entire state of Arizona was placed under an 8pm curfew. Reactions are, shall we say, mixed. But the same assholes whining about wearing masks are mostly silent here.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:47:34pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:47:50pm

re: #6 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I am well aware that I am not the first, but I’m going to do it anyway: For the rest, I hold that Donald J. Trump should get absolutely fucked.

Et ceterum censeo pedicatum esse DT.

(A sentence in which my illiterate spell checker flags all but the first and last words.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:47:51pm
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Thanos  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:48:41pm

My hometown friend’s son, Soren is in another surgery tonight to repair bones in the orbit of his eye, like Linda Tirado he was blinded in the left eye by a rubber bullet.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:49:25pm

re: #20 Thanos

My hometown friend’s son, Soren is in another surgery tonight to repair bones in the orbit of his eye, like Linda Tirado he was blinded in the left eye by a rubber bullet.

I’m sorry to hear that. Please PM me if there is any way I can be of practical assistance.

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Thanos  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:50:45pm

re: #21 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I checked with Jim when I heard, they aren’t requesting anything at this time except prayers.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:50:50pm

Walnut Creek protest spilled onto the freeway.

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:51:08pm

Just got done at the pistol range putting a couple of hundred rounds of practice ammo downrange because I don’t trust the Fascist in Chief. Getting caught up on the posts doesn’t make me think that was a bad idea. I hate to feel the need for this and hate even more that it’s our presidential dumbfuck that makes me feel that need.

Pic behind the tag.

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austin_blue  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:51:12pm

Turns out the object of the Car Parade was Spencer Cronk, whose house is two blocks from ours. Interestingly enough, he was the the City Coordinator for Minneapolis from 2014 until he came here in 2018 as City Manager. Openly gay, married, and has a gorgeous little 1 1/2 year old girl he and his partner are raising.

Big jogger, runs by here every night. Nice guy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:52:16pm

re: #22 Thanos

I checked with Jim when I heard, they aren’t requesting anything at this time except prayers.

Duly noted. I will do exactly that, and feel free to follow up if there is anything. I mean it. I am not one to sit idly by and offer tots and pears if there is something that can be done.

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mmmirele  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:53:23pm

Anderson Cooper is COMPLETELY out of fucks to give. I’ve never seen him so coldly furious in my life.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:54:11pm

re: #27 mmmirele

Anderson Cooper is COMPLETELY out of fucks to give. I’ve never seen him so coldly furious in my life.

He’s become my favorite over the years, so I’m glad to hear it. I think he is a genuinely good man.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:54:15pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:54:40pm

re: #27 mmmirele

Anderson Cooper is COMPLETELY out of fucks to give. I’ve never seen him so coldly furious in my life.

Good. We need a lot more of this. Trump and the fucking Republicans are trying to bring Naziism to the US, and they aren’t even trying to pretend otherwise any more.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 5:54:56pm

re: #27 mmmirele

Anderson Cooper is COMPLETELY out of fucks to give. I’ve never seen him so coldly furious in my life.

I’m watching and finding it very cathartic.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:01:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:01:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:02:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:03:33pm
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Allow me to light that for you...  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:04:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:04:53pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:05:10pm

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:06:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:07:11pm
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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:08:11pm

Interesting. Not the kind of email I usually get from Epiphone… I doubt that idiot that nearly destroyed Gibson would have authorized this under his name.

June 1st, 2020

For over 100 years we have supported voices across generations, genders, races, religions, and movements. We’ve supported voices of peace and change. Voices of love and heartbreak. Voices of solidarity and solutions.

Today we are truly at a crossroads that will require the courage to make these voices, and our voices, matter even more. Racism should have no place in this world. Not in the past, the present, nor the future. Ever.

It’s time, again, to be heard.

Musicians and music have always found ways to inspire hope, drive change, and evolve culture in a positive way. So, let’s get through this crossroads together by uniting in our efforts to wipe out racism.

We hear you. We support you. We stand with you.

James ‘JC’ Curleigh
President & CEO
Gibson Brands

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:09:20pm

Chris Cuomo has no fucks either.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:09:46pm

re: #32 Teddy’s Person

Yeah, but the only real rule is that their team is never responsible for anything—even the worst things they do—and everybody else is collectively responsible for everything.

Coincidentally, I’m sure, this means that the former can be violent and cruel and it’s understandable and forgiveable, while the latter must suffer violence and cruelty that is always deserved because their guilt is shared and unforgiveable.

Like a debt trap, but for murder, rape, and sadism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:10:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:11:55pm
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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:13:14pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Or as the Trump administration would say, mission accomplished.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:13:26pm

re: #42 Teddy’s Person

Chris Cuomo has no fucks either.

Good. We need our media to wake the hell up and not play Trump’s game anymore. Stop being tools in the President’s game to control the narrative.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:13:57pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:14:02pm

Taking a break from the apocalypse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:15:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:15:22pm
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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:16:46pm

This came from the CEO of my defense contractor company:

This weekend, across America, we saw multiple protests occurring against racism and brutality in the African American community. The pain and anger in our communities is understandable and palpable, and it is heartbreaking.

We’ve frankly seen too many similar stories in the past, and there is no immediate or easy solution. We must, however, start somewhere… and for us at L3Harris, it starts with a clear statement of what we believe and how we behave.

* We stand resolutely against racism in all its forms.

* We denounce senseless deaths and affirm unequivocally that acts of discrimination, hatred or violence will not be tolerated at L3Harris.

* We commit to living our values of integrity, excellence and respect. We do what is right. Always. Even when it is difficult.

* We not only value but seek out diverse ideas, perspectives, experiences and backgrounds. Our culture of inclusivity is core to our commitment to be the best in everything we do.

* We believe that involvement in our local communities strengthens our society, and we serve those communities both financially and through volunteer efforts - including L3Harris Investing For Tomorrow (LIFT).

* We support each other, and we overcome challenges and adversity by working as a team, and by trusting and relying on one another.

Clearly, change is necessary. Working together, I believe we can be part of the solution.

Be kind, be respectful, and take care of each other.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:17:12pm

re: #20 Thanos

My hometown friend’s son, Soren is in another surgery tonight to repair bones in the orbit of his eye, like Linda Tirado he was blinded in the left eye by a rubber bullet.

So sorry to hear that. It is a really high price to pay for being opposed to police brutality.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:18:14pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:18:52pm

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Taking a break from the apocalypse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:19:21pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:19:59pm

re: #1 EPR-radar

Fuck that motherfucking fucker Trump.

Now THAT’S how it’s done! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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Citizen K  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:20:46pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

All of the power with none of the responsibility or compassion.

Guess we’re officially a dictatorship now, instead of just a de facto one.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:20:47pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No one has more contempt for Trump’s voters than Trump himself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:22:08pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:24:25pm

re: #55 The Pie Overlord!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:24:27pm
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DesertDenizen  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:25:00pm

re: #58 Citizen K

All of the power with none of the responsibility or compassion.

Guess we’re officially a dictatorship now, instead of just a de facto one.

And where the hell are the Oafkeepers? Isn’t this exactly what they claim they’re against? Oh, that’s right, just like the Tea Party they’re just another bunch of Facist assholes who want to play with guns like they’re toys.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:25:27pm
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Citizen K  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:26:00pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:27:22pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:27:52pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:29:12pm

re: #59 Teddy’s Person

No one has more contempt for Trump’s voters than Trump himself.

That’s the only thing I agree with Trump on — his supporters are contemptible. Utterly. They go through life veering between malice and stupidity ruling their actions.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:30:02pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder if Trump’s show today has given a boost to the statehood for DC efforts.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:30:21pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:30:21pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chronology and that whole cause/effect business seem to be a challenge for MAGAts.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:30:25pm

I think it’s more along the lines of he doesn’t know what the fuck a book is.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:31:05pm

re: #72 Teddy’s Person

It’s something a judge throws at criminals.

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Citizen K  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:31:23pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:32:04pm

On an unrelated note, Apple has released a patch for the unc0ver jailbreak vulnerability, looks like for everything they make. I’m just installing it on all my gear.

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TarHellion  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:33:34pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

As an Episcopalian, I am so utterly offended - though not surprised - that FFVCS would use our Church as a political prop. Our Church feeds the poor. Shelters the homeless. Stands up for the oppressed. Denounces the caging of children. Believes in science and its intersection with faith. Here in Western NC, we are viewed as Communists, but whatever.

Sorry, but I just feel like that son-of-a-bitch opened his fly and pissed all over our sanctuary. FUCK DONALD TRUMP!!!!!

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:34:14pm

re: #58 Citizen K

All of the power with none of the responsibility or compassion.

Guess we’re officially a dictatorship now, instead of just a de facto one.

A true dictatorship in this country will take a lot more than what happened today. He’s got a lot of states to get under control.

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TarHellion  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:34:56pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Reuters, not AP. In my years of journalism, Reuters always tended to lean Center-Right. Though more Right of late.

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:35:12pm

Since it’s old photo time, here’s a little one of mine. First day of first grade.

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:36:13pm

re: #76 TarHellion

As an Episcopalian, I am so utterly offended - though not surprised - that FFVCS would use our Church as a political prop. Our Church feeds the poor. Shelters the homeless. Stands up for the oppressed. Denounces the caging of children. Believes in science and its intersection with faith. Here in Western NC, we are viewed as Communists, but whatever.

Sorry, but I just feel like that son-of-a-bitch opened his fly and pissed all over our sanctuary. FUCK DONALD TRUMP!!!!!

Amen from a crazy leftist Anglo-Catholic in Wisconsin.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:36:22pm

re: #77 Belafon

A true dictatorship in this country will take a lot more than what happened today. He’s got a lot of states to get under control.

DC is about the only place in the country he can send troops without getting governors’ permission or invoking the Insurrection Act. So it’s still (just barely) under color of law.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:36:29pm
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plansbandc  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:37:30pm

re: #80 William Lewis

And an Amen from this lapsed Episcopalian.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:37:52pm

re: #83 plansbandc

And an Amen from this lapsed Episcopalian.

And this one.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:38:21pm

re: #79 William Lewis

Since it’s old photo time, here’s a little one of mine. First day of first grade.

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Beautiful kids. Beautiful photo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:38:26pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:38:58pm

I propose that we declare Godwin’s Law null, void, and fully repealed, inasmuch as actual goddamned Nazis are running wild in the street, not to mention occupying the White House.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:39:05pm
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TarHellion  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:39:06pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mixed feelings on this, given Floyd Mayweather’s well-documented history of abuse against women and general propensity toward violent acts. Nevertheless, good for the family.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:39:33pm

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I propose that we declare Godwin’s Law null, void, and fully repealed, inasmuch as actual goddamned Nazis are running wild in the street, not to mention occupying the White House.

Godwin already voided it when Trump was elected.

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teleskiguy  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:40:24pm
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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:41:21pm

re: #76 TarHellion

As an Episcopalian, I am so utterly offended - though not surprised - that FFVCS would use our Church as a political prop. Our Church feeds the poor. Shelters the homeless. Stands up for the oppressed. Denounces the caging of children. Believes in science and its intersection with faith. Here in Western NC, we are viewed as Communists, but whatever.

Sorry, but I just feel like that son-of-a-bitch opened his fly and pissed all over our sanctuary. FUCK DONALD TRUMP!!!!!

So was the person in charge of the church.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:41:37pm

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I propose that we declare Godwin’s Law null, void, and fully repealed, inasmuch as actual goddamned Nazis are running wild in the street, not to mention occupying the White House.

I thought Mike Godwin himself did that a few years back after Trump took power.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:42:31pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:42:35pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:44:08pm

re: #95 The Pie Overlord!

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Ugh, those assholes again.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:45:56pm
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Jack Burton  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:46:07pm

re: #91 teleskiguy

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:47:54pm

re: #89 TarHellion

Mixed feelings on this, given Floyd Mayweather’s well-documented history of abuse against women and general propensity toward violent acts. Nevertheless, good for the family.

Even if it’s a broken clock moment, he’s trying to do good. That’s all any of us can do.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:48:44pm

Exactly

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PrairieQueen  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:50:37pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

They all stand like screen captures of the aliens in The Arrival. It’s like a special kind of “asshole” scoliosis + broken backwards Barbie doll knees, where they’re never straight or stand in line with the rest of their body. And Trump is always doing his narcissist “jutting,” headfirst, leering, dick move, and the rest of his body is almost disconnected. Weird af, the entire lot of them. It’s a freak show any time they congregate.

It’s almost like another movie, They Live, where if you wear the special glasses you see what dangerous alien pricks they are behind the facade, except it requires no glasses.

“And I’m all out of bubble gum.”

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Cheechako  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:52:08pm

Factory trawlers are just like meat processors only they process fish at sea. Very close quarters for the crew.

Factory trawler returns to Seattle after 85 crew members test positive for COVID-19

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:52:38pm

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I propose that we declare Godwin’s Law null, void, and fully repealed, inasmuch as actual goddamned Nazis are running wild in the street, not to mention occupying the White House.

Mike Godwin declared it null some time ago in reference to conservatives.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:54:27pm

re: #101 PrairieQueen

They all stand like screen captures of the aliens in The Arrival. It’s like a special kind of “asshole” scoliosis + broken backwards Barbie doll knees, where they’re never straight or stand in line with the rest of their body. And Trump is always doing his narcissist “jutting,” headfirst, leering, dick move, and the rest of his body is almost disconnected. Weird af, the entire lot of them. It’s a freak show any time they congregate.

It’s almost like another movie, They Live, where if you wear the special glasses you see what dangerous alien pricks they are behind the facade, except it requires no glasses.

“And I’m all out of bubble gum.”

That ‘front half of a centaur’ stance is from putting lifts in his shoes. It’s like a woman in heels - makes your butt and chest stick out.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:54:48pm

The MAGAts militia. These are the soft underbelly when TSHTF, as seems very likely any minute now.

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TarHellion  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:55:48pm

re: #84 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I can fully understand lapsing to both you and plansbandc (and shoutout to William Lewis). A long agnostic here, but I do accept the message of eternal love and justice the Episcopal Church stresses. And I firmly believe that a loving God that created me and my mind would appreciate and understand my doubts, given the current situation.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:55:51pm

re: #76 TarHellion

As an Episcopalian, I am so utterly offended - though not surprised - that FFVCS would use our Church as a political prop. Our Church feeds the poor. Shelters the homeless. Stands up for the oppressed. Denounces the caging of children. Believes in science and its intersection with faith. Here in Western NC, we are viewed as Communists, but whatever.

Sorry, but I just feel like that son-of-a-bitch opened his fly and pissed all over our sanctuary. FUCK DONALD TRUMP!!!!!

I’m offended and I’m not a Christian at all.

The Episcopal Church is well-known for supporting the things you note.

So I’ll throw in R’amen.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:56:42pm

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I propose that we declare Godwin’s Law null, void, and fully repealed, inasmuch as actual goddamned Nazis are running wild in the street, not to mention occupying the White House.

IIRC, Godwin said Trump was a Nazi.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:58:22pm
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BlueGrl21  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:58:44pm

re: #84 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

And this one.

This Episcopalian is disgusted too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:59:04pm

re: #102 Cheechako

Factory trawlers are just like meat processors only they process fish at sea. Very close quarters for the crew.

Factory trawler returns to Seattle after 85 crew members test positive for COVID-19

As I noted last week when the USS Theodore Roosevelt finally got back underway, until there’s some sort of treatment or vaccine for Covid-19 this is going to foul up civilian shipping and every navy in the world.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:59:39pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jun 1, 2020 • 6:59:44pm

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I propose that we declare Godwin’s Law null, void, and fully repealed, inasmuch as actual goddamned Nazis are running wild in the street, not to mention occupying the White House.

I think Mike Godwin himself declared his law to be void shortly after Trump was elected. The rest of us who weren’t screaming about him, were in denial.

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stpaulbear  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:00:18pm

The WaPo’s home page also has no fucks left to give right now.

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:00:55pm

re: #95 The Pie Overlord!

O RLY! My surprise, etc…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:01:13pm
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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:01:32pm

Don Lemon looks like he has even less fucks to give than Cuomo and Cooper.

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TarHellion  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:01:48pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thank you Anymouse. That means more to me than you will ever know.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:02:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:02:36pm
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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:03:19pm

re: #119 jaunte

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I was waiting for Mein Kampf to make an appearance in that image.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:03:25pm

re: #110 BlueGrl21

This Episcopalian is disgusted too.

Agnostic here, don’t really know if I’m disgusted or not.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:04:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:04:30pm

moron is feverishly retweeting SpaceX and Dragon Crew stuff

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:04:33pm

OMG! IT WAS A COOK BOOK!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:05:27pm
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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:05:29pm

re: #95 The Pie Overlord!

Twitter. Twitter told NBC. Perhaps there is some hope yet. Perhaps they have finally realized they die without freedom just like the rest of us.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:05:30pm

The protests have reached as far as Tyler, Texas.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:05:30pm

re: #123 Patricia Kayden

Fun Fact: On this day in 1927, Trump’s father Fred Trump was arrested at a KKK rally.

That is a delicious fact.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:07:05pm

Don Lemon (after playing a clip of Trump’s Rose Garden comments): Do not believe this man as he lies to your face.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:07:42pm
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stpaulbear  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:07:52pm

re: #100 Blind Frog Belly White

Exactly

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I’m just realizing that picture of Trump walking towards the church probably reminded him of appearing on WWF wrestling events, including the sound of an angry ‘audience’ jeering at him. No wonder he was pumping his fist. He was in his reality TV element. He LOVED it.

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TarHellion  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:08:48pm

re: #110 BlueGrl21

Thank you BlueGrl21. We can all make a difference with our disgust. Vote and promise to take someone to the polls who otherwise couldn’t. This idiot got elected on a fluke of 78,000 votes. Let’s send a message of what we as a people truly can do.

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:08:48pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sadly, the Hitler picture is shopped. The real picture is Hitler saluting from the elbow because his arm was broken.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:09:28pm

re: #134 Belafon

Sadly, the Hitler picture is shopped. The real picture is Hitler saluting from the elbow because his arm was broken.

Darn it.

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Viscous Obama  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:09:46pm

I have returned from my deep slumber — incubated in isolation and bathed in the scalding orange glow of Isotope-T… until it became too much… I wake

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:11:10pm

re: #134 Belafon

Sadly, the Hitler picture is shopped. The real picture is Hitler saluting from the elbow because his arm was broken.

figures…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:11:17pm
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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:11:28pm

The CNN prime time line up today is reminding me of Murrow’s take down of McCarthy.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:12:18pm

re: #136 Viscous Obama

Long time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:13:12pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:14:33pm

Fuck trump.

Am I first?

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PrairieQueen  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:15:50pm

re: #104 Blind Frog Belly White

Tom Cruise, Robert Conrad, William Shatner, Sylvester Stallone, and about a gazillion other height-challenged figures… they wore lifts and none of those guys looked like centaurs, that I remember. (And I’ve met some of them in person.)

Either the “other guys” have enough self-awareness not to look like the Leaning Tower of Pisa, or better muscle control, or something. Trump looks like he was busted and reassembled by committee. Together, the clan looks like saggyass marionettes.

Maybe on their planet they don’t stand, as a rule?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:15:59pm

Wow. Column by George Freakin’ Will:

Trump Must Be Removed. So Must His Congressional Enablers (Washington Post)

No one should want four more years of this taste of ashes.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:16:09pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

What are those? Some kind of pig?

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:16:22pm

re: #142 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Fuck trump.

Am I first?

I think you are for 7:14 pm pacific.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:17:09pm

re: #145 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What are those? Some kind of pig?

looks like wild boars

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:17:52pm

re: #143 PrairieQueen

Tom Cruise, Robert Conrad, William Shatner, Sylvester Stallone, and about a gazillion other height-challenged figures… they wore lifts and none of those guys looked like centaurs, that I remember. (And I’ve met some of them in person.)

Either the “other guys” have enough self-awareness not to look like the Leaning Tower of Pisa, or better muscle control, or something. Trump looks like he was busted and reassembled by committee. Together, the clan looks like saggyass marionettes.

Maybe on their planet they don’t stand, as a rule?

Can’t imagine Trump has a strong core. Now I have the image of Trump doing pilates.

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retired cynic  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:20:58pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:22:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:24:04pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:25:01pm

re: #143 PrairieQueen

Tom Cruise, Robert Conrad, William Shatner, Sylvester Stallone, and about a gazillion other height-challenged figures… they wore lifts and none of those guys looked like centaurs, that I remember. (And I’ve met some of them in person.)

Either the “other guys” have enough self-awareness not to look like the Leaning Tower of Pisa, or better muscle control, or something. Trump looks like he was busted and reassembled by committee. Together, the clan looks like saggyass marionettes.

Maybe on their planet they don’t stand, as a rule?

Different gravity.

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PrairieQueen  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:25:18pm

re: #148 Teddy’s Person

I don’t want to make you ill or anything, but I have gut feeling there’s a helluva lot of cellulite. Like, mounds.

Blue spandex and a headband. Flashdance: Trump Edition.

This is a guy that’s hypercritical of women, and yet his ass eclipses the sun. You know what other fascist figure had a fat ass? Three guesses and the first two don’t count.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:26:17pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

looks like wild boars

And/or wild sows.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:26:47pm

re: #153 PrairieQueen

I don’t want to make you ill or anything, but I have gut feeling there’s a helluva lot of cellulite. Like, mounds.

Blue spandex and a headband. Flashdance: Trump Edition.

This is a guy that’s hypercritical of women, and yet his ass eclipses the sun. You know what other fascist figure had a fat ass? Three guesses and the first two don’t count.

You provided a much needed chuckle.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:27:05pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

I agree with you 1000%. I’d never RT either of them but I have to say… Go with God. Tear trump down. Enjoy.

These are Trump’s people they’re addressing. Have at it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:27:28pm

re: #154 Blind Frog Belly White

And/or wild sows.

Apparently it takes only a couple generations to go from fat farmyard pigs into that.

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Citizen K  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:28:51pm

re: #143 PrairieQueen

Tom Cruise, Robert Conrad, William Shatner, Sylvester Stallone, and about a gazillion other height-challenged figures… they wore lifts and none of those guys looked like centaurs, that I remember. (And I’ve met some of them in person.)

Either the “other guys” have enough self-awareness not to look like the Leaning Tower of Pisa, or better muscle control, or something. Trump looks like he was busted and reassembled by committee. Together, the clan looks like saggyass marionettes.

Maybe on their planet they don’t stand, as a rule?

As pointed out, part of it might be muscle control. Another part might be just how high the lifts are too. I could fully see Trump having the vanity to wear extra-high lifts that fuck up his posture that much more.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:29:24pm
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TarHellion  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:29:35pm

To all of those that upvoted posts from me tonight, thank you. Sometimes I do go against the grain here, but I do speak with a passion. And I fully recognize and understand any and all pushback.

It’s that interaction that I most appreciate about this forum Charles has given us.

Above all, I think we have an absolute understanding of what MUST happen 5 months from now. Begin the planning now. How to take people to polls. How to help others to apply for absentee ballots. How to gradually convince wavering individuals that life is not dependent on a day-to-day Tweet.

Again, 78,000 votes determined the last election. What can we do to make sure this doesn’t happen again?

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Decatur Deb  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:29:37pm

Having an egg cream, likely the only egg cream within 100-300 miles of here. Our Publix carries Fox’s U-Bet in the International Food aisle.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:29:49pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

This bot responding to Mr. Takei appears to be broken.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:33:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:34:08pm

LOLWUT?

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:34:53pm
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garzooma  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:35:48pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

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It’s weird they managed to find a bible without “Holy Bible” or a cross on the front. Those are kind of hard to find. They’re almost inviting photoshopping.

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Viscous Obama  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:36:20pm

re: #140 Decatur Deb

Yes… I remember you. Four years chained in suspended animation, subject to the whims of the Low Evolutionary. Who filled my mind with …memetic thoughts… and… 140 character limits. Then they turned it up. To 280. Echo echo echo echo

The last dream I see I bring to you

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:36:23pm
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PrairieQueen  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:37:06pm

re: #158 Citizen K

You take a 6 foot tall cross-dressing male, put him in makeup and 6” heels, full-on glam from head to toe, and I guarantee he’ll carry himself like the freakin’ goddess he is. Non of this teetering, leaning, leering shit, nossir. And to be honest, some of those girls ain’t small. Doesn’t stop them from walking like they own the place in heels that would scare the crap out of me.

I believe in Trump’s case it has to be complete lack of muscle control. The only thing that would save him is a back brace, and maybe an aerial wire. Maybe Jenny Craig? I dunno. It’s weird as shit though.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:38:00pm

re: #166 garzooma

It’s weird they managed to find a bible without “Holy Bible” or a cross on the front. Those are kind of hard to find. They’re almost inviting photoshopping.

I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a Bible not marked as such.

And people are on Twitter already doing memes with his book.

The next question: Was it even a Bible, or did he just say it was?

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Citizen K  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:39:00pm

Sigh….yeah, not even mustering up enough pretend surprise at this point.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:39:13pm

re: #165 jaunte

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If you blow that up to fullscreen, the Red Cross on that medevac is pretty clear.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:39:21pm

re: #160 TarHellion

I will walk barefoot over broken glass and hot coals to vote on November 3.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:40:26pm

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Lol, what do you think? It was a bible as much as he has been taking hydroxichloriquine.

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BeachDem  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:40:49pm

re: #114 stpaulbear

The WaPo’s home page also has no fucks left to give right now.

Nor does HuffPo

TYRANT: TRUMP DECLARES WAR ON AMERICANS

huffpost.com

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Decatur Deb  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:41:45pm

re: #173 Ace Rothstein

I will walk barefoot over broken glass and hot coals to vote on November 3.

We might have to walk through a cloud of CS or coronavirus.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:42:15pm

re: #176 Decatur Deb

I will die to vote for Biden and against that Trump motherfucker.

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garzooma  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:43:06pm

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a Bible not marked as such.

And people are on Twitter already doing memes with his book.

The next question: Was it even a Bible, or did he just say it was?

I checked on Google shopping. On the first page, I only saw one. So it’s possible, just kind of weird. Given that the whole exercise was a photo-op.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:43:17pm

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Having an egg cream, likely the only egg cream within 100-300 miles of here. Our Publix carries Fox’s U-Bet in the International Food aisle.

Well, for the South, New York City is a foreign country.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:43:41pm

re: #177 Ace Rothstein

I will die to vote for Biden and against that Trump motherfucker.

We’ll put you down as “Leans Dem”.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:44:34pm

re: #178 garzooma

I checked on Google shopping. On the first page, I only saw one. So it’s possible, just kind of weird. Given that the whole exercise was a photo-op.

Well, the Trump crew put it together so the odds of it being a good photo-op was slim to none.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:45:17pm

re: #179 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, for the South, New York City is a foreign country.

Don’t get me started.

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stpaulbear  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:45:20pm

re: #171 Citizen K

Sigh….yeah, not even mustering up enough pretend surprise at this point.

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I wonder how many subscribers the NYT will lose tomorrow?

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:45:22pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:45:43pm

re: #178 garzooma

I checked on Google shopping. On the first page, I only saw one. So it’s possible, just kind of weird. Given that the whole exercise was a photo-op.

Or Trump simply filled in all the gold lettering with a black Sharpie while doodling one day in the Oval Office.
/

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:46:55pm

re: #176 Decatur Deb

We might have to walk through a cloud of CS or coronavirus.

There is a motto in the US Army. “This we’ll defend.” If it comes to that I will do that for the voting site here. I hope not, but you do what must be done.

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stpaulbear  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:49:37pm

Choppers are back in my neighborhood. I don’t hear anything that sounds amiss other than motorcyclists breaking curfew. I’m feeling like my neighborhood is living on borrowed time in regard to looting/vandalism. I’m jumping at every sound or vehicle.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:52:31pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:52:58pm

re: #186 William Lewis

There is a motto in the US Army. “This we’ll defend.” If it comes to that I will do that for the voting site here. I hope not, but you do what must be done.

50 states/50 rules, but people should check to see what it takes to vote by mail in rigid states. Alabama will fight mail-in, but we can vote absentee if we honestly expect to be out of state or working as a poll watcher in another precinct.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:53:00pm

I know I donate to various causes when I’m feeling helpless.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:53:09pm
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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:53:46pm

Someone with better software than i should immediately mix
the video of this

President Trump walks across Lafayette Park to St. John’s Church


with the audio of this

Real Bad Man / Song of Imperial March

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:55:25pm

re: #164 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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BeachDem  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:56:46pm

re: #167 Viscous Obama

Yes… I remember you. Four years chained in suspended animation, subject to the whims of the Low Evolutionary. Who filled my mind with …memetic thoughts… and… 140 character limits. Then they turned it up. To 280. Echo echo echo echo

The last dream I see I bring to you

[Embedded content]

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:57:25pm

re: #166 garzooma

It’s weird they managed to find a bible without “Holy Bible” or a cross on the front. Those are kind of hard to find. They’re almost inviting photoshopping.

He could be holding it upside down.

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:57:55pm

re: #189 Decatur Deb

50 states/50 rules, but people should check to see what it takes to vote by mail in rigid states. Alabama will fight mail-in, but we can vote absentee if we honestly expect to be out of state or working as a poll watcher in another precinct.

Thankfully Wisconsin is a very easy state. You don’t need a reason, just request your “absentee” ballot and you’re Bob’s uncle.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:58:13pm

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Mike Godwin declared it null some time ago in reference to conservatives.

Wasn’t it null and void only for the Charlottesville white supremacist rally?

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calochortus  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:58:42pm

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a Bible not marked as such.

And people are on Twitter already doing memes with his book.

The next question: Was it even a Bible, or did he just say it was?

This atheist household has 3 Bibles. None are marked on the cover. All are labeled on the spine . Two are from the mid 19th century and one is from 1957.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 7:58:49pm
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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:00:14pm

re: #198 calochortus

This atheist household has 3 Bibles. None are marked on the cover. All are labeled on the spine . Two are from the mid 19th century and one is from 1957.

JFC, they probably grabbed one from a museum display.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:00:42pm

re: #171 Citizen K

Sigh….yeah, not even mustering up enough pretend surprise at this point.

That’s friggin’ illegal (as if the GOP cares).

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:02:16pm

Okay, CNN is now bugging me. They’re now focusing on NYC protesters who aren’t complying with curfews without using the phrase civil disobedience. Come on Don Lemon do better.

edited for a couple of typos

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:02:46pm

re: #195 The Pie Overlord!

He could be holding it upside down.

It’s not. That photo shows him holding a copy of the Revised Standard Version (based on what the text on the spine looks like compared to the copy on my bookshelf.) That’s a common version at the more conservative parishes. The NRSV is the usual version at the rest but you’d see the difference in the gold leaf on the spine.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:04:01pm

re: #177 Ace Rothstein

I will die to vote for Biden and against that Trump motherfucker.

Fortunately, this ruby-red state has mail voting. I’ll be voting from the comfort of my kitchen table.

Let’s hope more Republican voters protest mail voting the same way they are in Pennsylvania.

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unproven innocence  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:04:08pm

re: #95 The Pie Overlord!

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Personally, I think “….the white hoods….” would have been enough of a clue that the msg was bogus. Pure hubris.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:05:19pm

re: #199 jaunte

Is that photo from the walk to the church?

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calochortus  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:05:45pm

Oh. And even though this isn’t the beginning of a new thread, and I’m not one for a lot of swearing: Fuck Trump.
Thank you for listening.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:06:34pm

re: #198 calochortus

This atheist household has 3 Bibles. None are marked on the cover. All are labeled on the spine . Two are from the mid 19th century and one is from 1957.

This one also has three: A Skeptic’s Annotated Bible I gave to my wife for a Christmas present, a New American Bible which was mine before we met, and a standard Protestant abridged KJV which belonged to my wife before we met.

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:08:04pm

re: #197 Hecuba’s daughter

Wasn’t it null and void only for the Charlottesville white supremacist rally?

No, Godwin declared that when you’re describing Nazis, there’s nothing to invoke.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:08:34pm

re: #206 Decatur Deb

Yes:

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:09:05pm

re: #132 stpaulbear

I’m just realizing that picture of Trump walking towards the church probably reminded him of appearing on WWF wrestling events, including the sound of an angry ‘audience’ jeering at him. No wonder he was pumping his fist. He was in his reality TV element. He LOVED it.

Here is my FB post from November 12, 2016 before I (most of us?) understood what a monster Trump really was:

Had a revelation this morning and the Google affirmed it. The nation did not elect Mussolini; it elected Hulk Hogan. He campaigns (and lives) like a WWE champion: bullies everyone, insults his opponents, boasts of his prowess, lies about everything, interrupts others, has no sense of decency or compassion, and needs to be surrounded by beautiful women. Fact checkers showed that he was number 1 — ahead of even Ted — in lies about past events. And now he has even stepped back from his trademark proposals.

Ok — I know wrestling fans will have better analogies

My apologies to Hulk Hogan.

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austin_blue  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:09:16pm

re: #122 Decatur Deb

Agnostic here, don’t really know if I’m disgusted or not.

Deist here. I’m disgusted by his actions, but I also wonder what was the point of them.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:09:26pm

re: #210 jaunte

Yes:

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Dude can’t even go to church without getting fucked.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:09:38pm

Also Doug Mills:

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:11:19pm

re: #212 austin_blue

Deist here. I’m disgusted by his actions, but I also wonder what was the point of them.

Jim Acosta said on CNN that it was in response to the criticism/mocking of Trump hiding out in the bunker. This walk showed him as a manly he-man (I guess?).

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:11:46pm

re: #210 jaunte

Note that the largest Secret Service agent they could find has a tie that’s still shorter than Trump’s.

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:12:33pm

re: #212 austin_blue

Deist here. I’m disgusted by his actions, but I also wonder what was the point of them.

“When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”

He needs evangelicals, who are starting to drift away due to his handling of the pandemic. He’s trying to make a show.

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:13:38pm

re: #215 Teddy’s Person

Jim Acosta said on CNN that it was in response to the criticism/mocking of Trump hiding out in the bunker. This walk showed him as a manly he-man (I guess?).

Yep, but you’re not really very brave when you use an entire guard unit to clear an area.

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calochortus  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:13:43pm

re: #208 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This one also has three: A Skeptic’s Annotated Bible I gave to my wife for a Christmas present, a New American Bible which was mine before we met, and a standard Protestant abridged KJV which belonged to my wife before we met.

I’ve got a couple Standard Editions from my maternal great grandparents that somewhat oddly were handed down to me. Mr. C. has the Revised Standard that was given to him at his confirmation. We might have a King James somewhere too-also Mr. C’s.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:14:15pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:14:46pm

I don’t have a Bible and it’s times like this I wish I had a full set of the Great Books Of The Western World!

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TarHellion  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:15:32pm

Just wondering what would happen if African-Americans and white supporters - wielding fake (or real) AR-15s - attempted to storm the Michigan State House, demanding their Constitutional rights. Something tells me the response wouldn’t be in favor of open-carry laws, as it was a month ago.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:16:33pm

re: #218 Belafon

Yep, but you’re not really very brave when you use an entire guard unit to clear an area.

He operates like his presidency is a TV show thinking the public only sees the edited version. Producers were supposed to edit out the clearing of Lafayette Park. I’m sure it played out that way on Fox.

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austin_blue  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:17:25pm

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Having an egg cream, likely the only egg cream within 100-300 miles of here. Our Publix carries Fox’s U-Bet in the International Food aisle.

Mmmmm…egg creams…

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retired cynic  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:17:35pm

re: #174 Ace Rothstein

Lol, what do you think? It was a bible as much as he has been taking hydroxichloriquine.

Not saying it was, but there have been several in my family that were black, without anything on the cover. But they were old, and sort of floppy leather, if you know what I mean. Not like that book, which looked new. Did have the red page marker!

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:18:34pm

re: #225 retired cynic

Not saying it was, but there have been several in my family that were black, without anything on the cover. But they were old, and sort of floppy leather, if you know what I mean. Not like that book, which looked new. Did have the red page marker!

Yes, you can see the red page maker as he hold it up like a trophy.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:20:24pm
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garzooma  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:20:28pm

re: #213 Decatur Deb

Dude can’t even go to church without getting fucked.

Here’s a first-person account from the Rev. Gini Gerbasi, the Rector of a nearby St. John’s Episcopal Church in Georgetown:

Friends, I am ok, but I am, frankly shaken. I was at St. John’s, Lafayette Square most of the afternoon, with fellow clergy and laypeople - and clergy from some other denominations too. We were passing out water and snacks, and helping the patio area at St. John’s, Lafayette square to be a place of respite and peace. All was well - with a few little tense moments - until about 6:15 or so. […] Around 6:15 or 6:30, the police started really pushing protestors off of H Street (the street between the church and Lafayette Park, and ultimately, the White House. […] Suddenly, around 6:30, there was more tear gas, more concussion grenades, and I think I saw someone hit by a rubber bullet - he was grasping his stomach and there was a mark on his shirt. The police in their riot gear were literally walking onto the St. John’s, Lafayette Square patio with these metal shields, pushing people off the patio and driving them back.
[…]
WE WERE DRIVEN OFF OF THE PATIO AT ST. JOHN’S - a place of peace and respite and medical care throughout the day - SO THAT MAN COULD HAVE A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH!!! PEOPLE WERE HURT SO THAT HE COULD POSE IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH WITH A BIBLE! […]

Hard to see how Trump comes out ahead by pissing off a priest.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:21:10pm

We have some 19th-century scriptures in our collection and the title appears only on the spine, not on the cover.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:21:39pm
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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:24:43pm

re: #230 gocart mozart

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I remember the sobbing and texting with a friend with increasing urgency “what fuck is happening” there’s a whole text chain of the two of us just texting fuck back and forth.

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austin_blue  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:26:06pm

re: #215 Teddy’s Person

Jim Acosta said on CNN that it was in response to the criticism/mocking of Trump hiding out in the bunker. This walk showed him as a manly he-man (I guess?).

Man, I gotta use sarc tags on any religious reference.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:26:15pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:26:35pm

I just threw up in my mouth.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:26:39pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:29:18pm

re: #235 gocart mozart

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Sorry —- there is no substitute for Sarah!

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:29:28pm
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mmmirele  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:30:57pm

re: #231 Teddy’s Person

I remember the sobbing and texting with a friend with increasing urgency “what fuck is happening” there’s a whole text chain of the two of us just texting fuck back and forth.

I drank myself until I passed out. I have NEVER drank like that, before or since.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:31:58pm
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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:34:14pm

Trump is selling us all out.

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retired cynic  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:35:01pm

re: #240 jaunte

Trump is selling us all out.

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GAAAAAAAAAAAA!

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Teddy's Person  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:42:24pm
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VegasGolfer  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:42:49pm

re: #211 Hecuba’s daughter

Anybody could’ve found out what a piece of shit Trump was, I was posting books to read that showed how bad he was, but I got chastised for calling him drumpf before the election.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:44:11pm

re: #128 jaunte

The protests have reached as far as Tyler, Texas.

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Isn’t that Gohmert Country?

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:44:58pm
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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:45:42pm

re: #244 A Three Hour Tour

I think it is.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:47:19pm

Nebraska Public Health District has changed its Covid-19 site to show more data.

Today:

Confirmed: 141 (+5, 1 new in Garden and Box Butte Counties, 3 new in Scott’s Bluff County)
Doubling rate: 24 days
Recovered: 78
Deaths: 0
Hospital beds available: 52%
Tests: 2,977
Positives: 4.7%
Largest age group: 10-19, then 40-49

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mmmirele  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:47:37pm

I have a really bad feeling things are going to explode in the morning, once the curfew lifts. I hope I am wrong.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:47:57pm

re: #240 jaunte

This happens to be my professional wheelhouse. Farhi hasn’t been paying attention. The FCC approved up to 100% foreign ownership a few years ago. It requires a fairly intense security check and approval. My friend who’s a UK citizen went through the process to buy a small station in upstate NY and it took almost a year.

The document Farhi references is new… it’s the FCC telling Cumulus Media it can sell stock to foreign entities without having to trigger that review process for every stock purchase.

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calochortus  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:48:08pm

I think I’ve “enjoyed” enough keeping up with the news for one evening. I’m going to say goodnight and turn my full attention to Leonard Bernstein’s Mass that I recorded a few days ago.

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austin_blue  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:48:10pm

re: #241 retired cynic

GAAAAAAAAAAAA!

I don’t understand, why *wouldn’t* we want local Russia Today, and China News local broadcast stations around the US?

It would broaden our horizons, key us in to the rest of the world, and make us global citizens!

Wait. What? it’s just a constant stream of propaganda being used to lie to American citizens? Well, that seems to be a short-sighted view of the facts on the ground. After all, they report, *we* decide.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:48:33pm
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austin_blue  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:49:25pm

re: #244 A Three Hour Tour

Isn’t that Gohmert Country?

Yes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:49:44pm

Got some bad stuff going on here in Koreatown. Lots of sirens and copters

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:50:33pm

re: #250 calochortus

I think I’ve “enjoyed” enough keeping up with the news for one evening. I’m going to say goodnight and turn my full attention to Leonard Bernstein’s Mass that I recorded a few days ago.

Goodnight, Ms. Calochortus.

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BigPapa  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:51:45pm

I just posted ‘I’m against fascism. I am antifa. As soon as I can figure out how to join.’

See if I get them to nibble the bait.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 8:54:49pm

re: #128 jaunte

The protests have reached as far as Tyler, Texas.

The protests have reached the Nebraska Panhandle.

WATCH NOW: Peaceful demonstration draws dozens in Scottsbluff (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald):

Dozens of demonstrators walked the streets of Scottsbluff Sunday afternoon in an effort to bring awareness to the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis last week.

Organizers of two Scottsbluff rallies prioritized a peaceful demonstration after many similar protests had turned violent across the country over the past several days. One group met at the Guadalupe Center for a march through the city’s streets. A second group organized by Panhandle Equality met at Centennial Park for a candlelight vigil. Once the vigil was complete, many participants from that event joined the marchers.

(more, including video, 0:53)

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austin_blue  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:00:01pm

re: #250 calochortus

I think I’ve “enjoyed” enough keeping up with the news for one evening. I’m going to say goodnight and turn my full attention to Leonard Bernstein’s Mass that I recorded a few days ago.

We saw it live in Austin two years ago. It’s occasionally clunky, often majestic, and ultimately wonderful. Peter Bay, our Music Director at the Austin Symphony, who studied under Bernstein, worked for a year putting the show together, and one of his (Bernstein’s) daughters was at the show.

He was also the Music Director for the Hot Springs Music Festival for several years. A good friend of ours.

It was a lovely evening.

Oh, and the Principal Trombone at the ASO cut loose with some remarkably racist MAGA tweets on Saturday. On Sunday, both the ASO and the Austin Opera fired her.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:04:57pm
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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:05:23pm

re: #239 jaunte

I dug up Gini’s post and shared it to my feed with “Just remember, Trump is willing to use force and enter a church if it suits his purpose.”

Facebook Post

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:07:19pm

re: #247 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More and more websites are rejecting requests from my VPN…. as I just discovered trying to look at the San Diego County website.

Anyway, San Diego statistics continue to show the same trends. Percentage testing positive is slowing declining.

However, hospitalizations and ICU units due to Covid-19 remain steady, maybe slowly increasing over a month.

This continues my belief that SARS-Cov-2 is going to end up being a significant immediate cause of death for the elderly. While influenza has long been indicated in the otherwise non-traumatic deaths of the elderly, right now Covid-19 leads flu by a wide margin in the US.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:07:30pm

A military reconnaissance aircraft has been circling Minneapolis all evening.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:08:01pm

Los Angeles evening sky

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:10:33pm

A Statement from the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church of the United States on the actions of our so-called President tonight.

This evening, the President of the United States stood in front of St. John’s Episcopal Church, lifted up a bible, and had pictures of himself taken. In so doing, he used a church building and the Holy Bible for partisan political purposes. This was done in a time of deep hurt and pain in our country, and his action did nothing to help us or to heal us.

The bible teaches us that “God is love.” Jesus of Nazareth taught, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” The prophet Micah taught that the Lord requires us to “do justice, love mercy and walk humbly with our God.”

The bible the President held up and the church that he stood in front of represent the values of love, of justice, of compassion, and of a way to heal our hurts.

We need our President, and all who hold office, to be moral leaders who help us to be a people and nation living these values. For the sake of George Floyd, for all who have wrongly suffered, and for the sake of us all, we need leaders to help us to be “one nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all.”

The Most Reverend Michael B. Curry
Presiding Bishop and Primate
The Episcopal Church

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:10:57pm
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Teukka  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:11:19pm

re: #259 gocart mozart

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:11:24pm
K-pop stans overwhelm app after Dallas police ask for videos of protesters

Fans also review bombed the app on the App Store and Google Play

theverge.com

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retired cynic  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:13:04pm

re: #265 jaunte

Looks like someone had to carry the bible for DT. If he was going to shelter behind it, the least he could do was carry it for himself.

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:18:34pm

I very rarely use my facebook account. I hate them but there are some who make it necessary to use it.

I just posted this to it:

I am Antifa.

I have been since the day I raised my right hand and joined the US Army. I have fought for freedom all my life and I will continue to fight for freedom until the day I die. Anyone who supports Trump supports Fascism and Evil and I will oppose you till my dying breath.

Once I said “I, William Andrew Lewis III,, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” Before the Lord my God, I still hold to that vow.

Right now the biggest domestic enemy of the Constitution resides in the White House.

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Jack Burton  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:21:08pm

re: #261 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

More and more websites are rejecting requests from my VPN…. as I just discovered trying to look at the San Diego County website.

Anyway, San Diego statistics continue to show the same trends. Percentage testing positive is slowing declining.

I can guarantee you after this weekend and Memorial Day, that will reverse or the very least the downward trend will slow or flatten.

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TarHellion  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:21:34pm

re: #264 William Lewis

And this is why I am proud to call myself an Episcopalian. So, yes, FUCK DONALD TRUMP!!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:21:48pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

As others have mentioned here, it is clear that the belief that the military will uphold its oath to our country and won’t attack our citizens is not based on reality. Pompeo certainly illustrates that — first in his class at West Point — but last in loyalty to our nation. This military will do whatever the president asks of them. Prove me wrong.

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Teukka  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:22:22pm

re: #259 gocart mozart

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re: #266 Teukka

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Jack Burton  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:22:54pm

re: #245 gocart mozart

Because of course. Waiting for the Russian groups to be outed as well.

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Teukka  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:24:21pm

re: #274 Jack Burton

Because of course. Waiting for the Russian groups to be outed as well.

Does one dare hope they out themselves like they did with GRU ops all using the same addresses, passport series etc. for their operatives. :smiles devilishly:

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Jack Burton  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:25:17pm

re: #272 Hecuba’s daughter

As others have mentioned here, it is clear that the belief that the military will uphold its oath to our country and won’t attack our citizens is not based on reality. Pompeo certainly illustrates that — first in his class at West Point — but last in loyalty to our nation. This military will do whatever the president asks of them. Prove me wrong.

Yep.

Also every African American I know personally that is currently active duty in the military is at best a RWNJ and at worst an outright Trump supporter. So how do you think the whites are going to fall?

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Dread Pirate  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:29:36pm

Thread

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austin_blue  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:29:59pm

re: #269 William Lewis

I very rarely use my facebook account. I hate them but there are some who make it necessary to use it.

I just posted this to it:

I am Antifa!

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:30:30pm
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jaunte  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:33:09pm
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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:33:09pm

Good night folks. May the morrow bring a better day and gentle light to us all.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:34:00pm

There will be no gentle light.

The worst is yet to come.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:35:11pm

re: #262 Dread Pirate

A military reconnaissance aircraft has been circling Minneapolis all evening.

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Strictly speaking it is not illegal for any military aircraft to fly over the USA. If the military is using protests and such for training on urban warfare (due to all the accellerationists) then it is useful training.

If they are gathering intelligence for the civilian police, it is a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act (like conservatives care about the law).

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:37:26pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:37:44pm

re: #278 austin_blue

I am Antifa!

I am an anti-fascist. We fought a war about this. The whole world was involved.

Both as a seaman and as a politician I affirmed (repeatedly) an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.

That affirmation didn’t go away because I am out of the Navy or politics. That affirmation was lifelong.

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:40:56pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:41:56pm

re: #284 gocart mozart

Lots of people in that thread saying “we need good people like you to stay within the system and reform it from the inside.”

That doesn’t work.

For an officer (whether police, sheriff’s department, or military) the correct decision is to resign the commission. Moreover, by resigning the commission, he can now speak out, which he cannot do within the sheriff’s department.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:42:07pm
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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:43:07pm

Mr. Megan McCain McArdle, only because she’s better known than him:

Edit: wrong spouse.

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:45:29pm
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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:46:14pm
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Jack Burton  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:46:47pm

re: #284 gocart mozart

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I’m not 100% convinced that account is real. Something doesn’t smell right and I think it’s only a few days old.

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austin_blue  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:49:12pm

re: #285 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I am an anti-fascist. We fought a war about this. The whole world was involved.

Both as a seaman and as a politician I affirmed (repeatedly) an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.

That affirmation didn’t go away because I am out of the Navy or politics. That affirmation was lifelong.

Me too. Air Force. Pilot. I passed gas for a living. If you aren’t Antifa then you are a Fascist. That’s a QED.

That’s pretty clearly the other side of the coin. That side of the coin is the KKK, 3%r’s, Boogaloos, Proud Boys, random racist fucks, White Supremicists, and whatever Eric Prince is putting together.

Oh, and I’ve got long gunz, and I knowz how to shoot ‘em.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:49:39pm

re: #288 Ace-o-aces

From personal experience, I can testify to the fact conservatives don’t give a flying fuque about homeless veterans, except as “whataboutism” props.

I have a rusty, unsharpened cactus for Mr. Watson.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:50:45pm

re: #289 Belafon

Mr. Megan McCain, only because she’s better known than him:

[Embedded content]

Wrong Megan. He’s married to Megan McCardle

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Jack Burton  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:52:03pm

re: #292 Jack Burton

I’m not 100% convinced that account is real. Something doesn’t smell right and I think it’s only a few days old.

OK finally scrolled back until it stopped. May 5th oldest Tweet. Says created May 2020 so there’s that. Something still seems off though.

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austin_blue  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:53:23pm

re: #296 Jack Burton

OK finally scrolled back until it stopped. May 5th oldest Tweet. Says created May 2020 so there’s that. Something still seems off though.

Does it have a Russian ISP?

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:55:36pm

re: #295 Hecuba’s daughter

Wrong Megan. He’s married to Megan McCardle

Thanks. Fixed.

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Teukka  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:58:28pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:58:33pm

re: #298 Belafon

Thanks. Fixed.

Ooops. I misspelled her name — it’s Megan McArdle!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:58:49pm

re: #288 Ace-o-aces

The best takedown of Paul Joseph Watson was by YouTuber Hbomberguy (counter-apologist, philosopher). It was so complete and devastating that Watson ceded the field.

(31:01)

SOY BOYS: A MEASURED RESPONSE

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Jack Burton  Jun 1, 2020 • 9:58:50pm

re: #297 austin_blue

Does it have a Russian ISP?

Unless there’s some info that Twitter gives away somewhere I don’t know about, I don’t think there’s anyway to tell without working for Twitter.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:04:13pm

re: #297 austin_blue

Does it have a Russian ISP?

On the other hand, new people join Twitter every day for some unknown reason.

His response threads read a lot more like a pissed off American rather than a foreigner trying to feign one.

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:04:16pm

From a diary detailing steps white allies need to do to help:

you should know that however bad you think it is, it’s much, much worse. And yet we can still tackle it. We have no other choice.

m.dailykos.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:12:28pm

Thread, five tweets.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:14:33pm

“Episcopalian” is trending on Twitter.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:16:12pm

Copters have been circling Koreatown since 830. Sirens going continually from cars.

West 3rd St has been blocked off at Alexandria. Looks like it’s going to be a noisy night…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:20:49pm

Tropical Depression 3 has not intensified. It remains at 30mph windspeed, and is now moving west through the Bay of Campeche. They state the evolution of the system is now uncertain.

Tropical Storm Warnings are in effect for the coastline of the Bay of Campeche and adjacent waters.

nhc.noaa.gov (Discussion #2, 10PM CDT)

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austin_blue  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:21:30pm

Well, I smell of Backwoods Off and sweat. The skeeters have bloomed with the 10” of rain we had in May. Time for a shower and to the rack.

Sweet scaly dreams, all. Who knows what new hell we will awake to tomorrow?

I am terrified at what is happening in our country. The sky is yellow and the sun is blue. Everything is topsy turvy. It seems we are broken and the center cannot hold.

We’ll see. Goodnight.

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:23:41pm

He’s a public radio producer in Philadelphia:

This one is hidden because he got hit in the face:

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:24:44pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:27:04pm

re: #309 austin_blue

10” of rain in a month? Yeesh! That’s roughly equivalent to 12 feet of snow.

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austin_blue  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:29:40pm

re: #312 teleskiguy

10” of rain in a month? Yeesh! That’s roughly equivalent to 12 feet of snow.

We average 32” of rain a year.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:30:49pm

re: #312 teleskiguy

10” of rain in a month? Yeesh! That’s roughly equivalent to 12 feet of snow.

…or a year of rain for California.

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teleskiguy  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:32:25pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:37:29pm

Some good news:

Twitter said Monday that it has suspended an account named “ANTIFA_US” which it says was tied to the white nationalist group Identity Evropa. Over the weekend, the account had called for violence and its posts had widely circulated online.

axios.com

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Dread Pirate  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:43:42pm

Why would anyone respect Marco Rubio? He has never earned respect.

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uriel  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:48:34pm

You know, I, and several other posters, have occasionally mentioned our concern that trump might not honor the election results. The general response was that the Secret Service and DC LEOs would never allow that to happen, and that he would be frog marched out of the Oval.

I’m kind of interested in whether anyone’s revisited that prediction in light of recent events.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:50:16pm

Work in 5 hours and I’m filled with anxiety. Yech.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:52:04pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 1, 2020 • 10:59:40pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:01:07pm

re: #320 Dread Pirate

I don’t know about anyone else here, but I’m picturing Barr and his closest cronies firing up the document shredders and burning the midnight oil to destroy any traces of Trump’s crimes if Trump ends up getting his ass handed to him this November (knock on wood).

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piratedan  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:08:22pm

re: #322 Dr Lizardo

true doc, just unsure how he can make hours of camera footage disappear where Trump admits all of the heinous illegal shit he’s already done. Getting quickly to the point where peoples heads will be on pikes… while we’re a bunch of mongrels with a thin veneer of civilization and fair play, I’d say that these fuckers have overplayed their hands.

Putin’s got what he wanted, a destabilized US (for now) but I get the distinct impression that there is a whirlwind a coming and all of the folks that have been pulling strings are gonna be sorry that they did.

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Cheechako  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:09:54pm

re: #318 uriel

You know, I, and several other posters, have occasionally mentioned our concern that trump might not honor the election results. The general response was that the Secret Service and DC LEOs would never allow that to happen, and that he would be frog marched out of the Oval.

I’m kind of interested in whether anyone’s revisited that prediction in light of recent events.

Today’s “events” are nothing compared to what would happen if trump doesn’t honor the election results.

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Jack Burton  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:11:11pm

re: #318 uriel

You know, I, and several other posters, have occasionally mentioned our concern that trump might not honor the election results. The general response was that the Secret Service and DC LEOs would never allow that to happen, and that he would be frog marched out of the Oval.

I’m kind of interested in whether anyone’s revisited that prediction in light of recent events.

I see no evidence that the US Secret Service will be on board with him staying in the WH one second longer than he’s legally supposed to. Anyone else, no idea but I never commented on them nor do I think they would be even involved in such a thing anyway.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:12:09pm

Senator Collins is concerned Trump isn’t striking the right tone.

Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, speaking on the Senate floor, called on Trump “to help heal the racial division.” “The President should help to heal the racial divisions in this country,” Collins said. “It is at times like this that a President needs to speak to the nation, to pledge to right wrongs, and to calm inflamed passions.” Asked later if she thinks the President needs to offer a unifying message, Collins said: “I do.”

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aatharuv  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:13:59pm

re: #326 Dread Pirate

Senator Collins is concerned Trump isn’t striking the right tone.

Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, speaking on the Senate floor, called on Trump “to help heal the racial division.” “The President should help to heal the racial divisions in this country,” Collins said. “It is at times like this that a President needs to speak to the nation, to pledge to right wrongs, and to calm inflamed passions.” Asked later if she thinks the President needs to offer a unifying message, Collins said: “I do.”

I really just don’t know what her gameplan is with her milquetoast responses to everything. Will that actually keep her in office?

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TarHellion  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:14:14pm

re: #321 Dread Pirate

Again, this is why I am a proud Episcopalian. Even if it is hard to spell sometimes.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:15:06pm

oops, fixed 326.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:16:23pm

re: #327 aatharuv

I really just don’t know what her gameplan is with her milquetoaste responses to everything. Will that actually keep her in office?

I don’t get it either. It makes her look utterly ineffectual and indecisive.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:23:35pm
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TarHellion  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:30:03pm

In a written statement, Presiding Bishop Michael Curry, head of the Episcopal denomination, accused Trump of using “a church building and the Holy Bible for partisan political purposes.”

“This was done in a time of deep hurt and pain in our country, and his action did nothing to help us or to heal us,” Curry wrote.

“The prophet Micah taught that the Lord requires us to ‘do justice, love mercy and walk humbly with our God,’ ” he continued, calling on Trump and others in power to be moral. “For the sake of George Floyd, for all who have wrongly suffered, and for the sake of us all, we need leaders to help us to be ‘one nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all.’ ”

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Dread Pirate  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:30:26pm

re: #331 Dread Pirate

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uriel  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:33:45pm

re: #324 Cheechako

“Events.”

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unproven innocence  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:38:40pm

Chris Uhlmann analyses Trump’s ‘totalitarian’ address | 9 News Australia

Have noticed uptick of military air traffic over recent hours between DC and base(s) to the south. Suspect coming days will be interesting, in the sense of that ancient Chinese curse.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:41:36pm
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uriel  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:43:06pm

re: #336 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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That’s ok. It was just an “event,” I’m told.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:47:22pm

re: #312 teleskiguy

10” of rain in a month? Yeesh! That’s roughly equivalent to 12 feet of snow.

Our annual rainfall is 17” a year.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:52:17pm
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TarHellion  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:53:03pm

re: #335 unproven innocence

Why does it take Australian television to accurately portray what is going on in our country?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:53:46pm

re: #339 DodgerFan1988

Twitter has suspended that account.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:54:03pm

OK. Heard a new one tonight watching/listening to a stream of a UK naval historian answering question.

He talked about getting a pizza in Newcastle from some place. With haggis on it.

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Jack Burton  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:55:42pm

re: #323 piratedan

Putin’s got what he wanted, a destabilized US (for now) but I get the distinct impression that there is a whirlwind a coming and all of the folks that have been pulling strings are gonna be sorry that they did.

Putin can’t capitalize on it (as far as I know) right now. Oil prices tanked, COVID-19 raging out of control in Russia. Not exactly opening a path for him to steamroll the Balkans, Finland, The rest of Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbijian.

Which is the next active military step of Putin’s plan, after fucking with Syria and Libya.

VA’CHYNA might be able to steamroll Hong Kong and Taiwan right now though.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:58:23pm
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Jack Burton  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:58:30pm

re: #341 Dr Lizardo

Twitter has suspended that account.

That account can be dug out of the google cache and it’s one I saw shared on Twitter by *a lot* of people over the past few days. It was bought hook, line, and sinker. We are so goddamned gullible.

Google Cache Link

Edited for clarity

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unproven innocence  Jun 1, 2020 • 11:58:34pm

re: #340 TarHellion

Why does it take Australian television to accurately portray what is going on in our country?

Considering the long history between Australia and US, cooperating in commerce, war and diplomacy, maybe they are in a good position to know when we are blowing it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 12:09:04am

re: #109 Teddy’s Person

I don’t know anyone in “Antifa.” But I’m against facism. And Donald Trump is a fascist.

The whole point of this posturing and rhetoric is to associate opposition to any form or manifestation of Fascism with Antifa, and therefore domestic terrorism…

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Jack Burton  Jun 2, 2020 • 12:11:48am

re: #347 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The whole point of this posturing and rhetoric is to associate opposition to any form or manifestation of Fascism with Antifa, and therefore domestic terrorism…

“Antifa” as an organization is a Right Wing Strawman.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2020 • 12:27:39am
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Dread Pirate  Jun 2, 2020 • 12:29:35am

Jennifer Rubin Retweeted @JoeBiden

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2020 • 12:31:31am

re: #348 Jack Burton

“Antifa” as an organization is a Right Wing Strawman.

Still no proclamation declaring “antifa” a terrorist organisation.

Who knew writing proclamations was hard?

To me it seems it’s just one of those things Trump throws out to his base supporters. It’s amazing how often he does that, doesn’t follow through, and they stay stuck to him like a cult leader.

On the other hand, the squishy middle keeps seeing this, and sees a leader who cannot follow through on his most basic promises.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 2, 2020 • 12:36:57am

re: #351 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Still no proclamation declaring “antifa” a terrorist organisation.

Who knew writing proclamations was hard?

To me it seems it’s just one of those things Trump throws out to his base supporters. It’s amazing how often he does that, doesn’t follow through, and they stay stuck to him like a cult leader.

On the other hand, the squishy middle keeps seeing this, and sees a leader who cannot follow through on his most basic promises.

What’s amazing is that it’s one of things that Trump throws out as a bit of red meat to his base, he never follows through on it and then when you point that out to his supporters, they promptly bleat “FAKE NEWS!!” like the hapless sheep they are.

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unproven innocence  Jun 2, 2020 • 12:39:02am

re: #351 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Still no proclamation declaring “antifa” a terrorist organisation.

Who knew writing proclamations was hard?

To me it seems it’s just one of those things Trump throws out to his base supporters. It’s amazing how often he does that, doesn’t follow through, and they stay stuck to him like a cult leader.

On the other hand, the squishy middle keeps seeing this, and sees a leader who cannot follow through on his most basic promises.

But he DID make such a claim verbally, and very recently. Will try to find it.

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ericblair  Jun 2, 2020 • 12:44:34am

re: #323 piratedan

Putin’s got what he wanted, a destabilized US (for now) but I get the distinct impression that there is a whirlwind a coming and all of the folks that have been pulling strings are gonna be sorry that they did.

From the people monitoring Russian media, there’s actually very little “America is dying, ha ha ha” reaction. The papers and “harder” news are reporting it reasonably straight. The talking head shows are mostly treating this as an outright political battle, where the Democrats are controlling black protestors and the Republicans are controlling the cops. This is typical of the political ultra-cynicism of the Russian elite, who can’t really understand anyone acting on principle. They consider the footage of Floyd’s death to be terrible, and actually just leaving it at that.

An interesting feature of the commentary is that they don’t see the cops as doing anything really wrong. For Americans, the police are there to protect the people. The racists will interpret that as protecting white people from black people, but the cops are there to protect. For Russians in general, the cops are there to protect the state and prevent unrest. Therefore, beating the shit out of protesters is just expected.

I don’t know if they’ve noticed that it’s really a cop riot, and the police forces are defying the will of many of the mayors and governors. I don’t think they could process that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 12:48:35am

re: #354 ericblair

I don’t know if they’ve noticed that it’s really a cop riot, and the police forces are defying the will of many of the mayors and governors. I don’t think they could process that.

Police in Russia were also a law unto themselves, but mostly involved in shaking citizens down for protection money.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2020 • 12:54:42am

nebraska.maps.arcgis.com
Nebraska statewide (Nebraska is giving more information now):

14,345 cases confirmed (+244)
Doubling rate: 24 days
Deaths: 178 (+7)
Doubling rate: 31 days
Largest age group: 75-84, then 65-74
Hospitalisations: 215 (-2)
Most hospitalised by age: 55-64
Largest cumulative by age: 55-64 (22.6% of all cases statewide)
Recovered: 6,161
Largest by age: 20-34, then 35-44
Statewide hospital beds available: 46%

Wyoming:
health.wyo.gov
Lab confirmed plus probable: 910 (+7)
Doubling rate: 35 days
Largest age group: 19-29, then 40-49
Deaths: 17 (+1)
Recovered: 667
Cases by race: White 47.6%, then Native American 34.1%

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 2, 2020 • 12:55:15am

re: #355 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Police in Russia were also a law unto themselves, but mostly involved in shaking citizens down for protection money.

Czech cops in Prague used to be notorious for that, especially during the height of tourist season, but things have significantly improved over the last 19 years. It’s been chalked up to much better training and the adoption of high standards of professionalism.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2020 • 12:59:30am

re: #353 unproven innocence

But he DID make such a claim verbally, and very recently. Will try to find it.

whitehouse.gov (White House Proclamation Page, which I monitor for half-staff notices and stuff)

The last proclamation was Caribbean-American Heritage Month, on May 29.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:00:11am

re: #357 Dr Lizardo

Czech cops in Prague used to be notorious for that, especially during the height of tourist season, but things have significantly improved over the last 19 years. It’s been chalked up to much better training and the adoption of high standards of professionalism.

First thing I learned with Moscow traffic police was never to have a package of American cigarettes visible, I kept them above the sun visor, and a pack of Russian papirosy on the seat, none of them wanted those.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:04:52am

re: #359 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I tried a Belomorkanal ciggie one time. Took one drag off it and thought to myself, “That’s instant lung cancer in a box.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:05:15am

re: #359 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

First thing I learned with Moscow traffic police was never to have a package of American cigarettes visible, I kept them above the sun visor, and a pack of Russian papirosy on the seat, none of them wanted those.

When my sister-in-law goes to Russia, she always brings me back horrendous Russian cigarettes. (I wonder if she hates me.)

Once she brought me back a butane refillable gas lighter engraved with a blueprint drawing with specs for the F-4 fighter jet.

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unproven innocence  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:09:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:09:27am

re: #360 Dr Lizardo

I tried a Belomorkanal ciggie one time. Took one drag off it and thought to myself, “That’s instant lung cancer in a box.”

A Russian showed me how they used to take those apart and use them to roll joints…a trick that required two Russian pencils (not Western ones, they were too thick): dump out the tobacco, mix it with your shit, then stuff one pencil up the filter end, pour your gear back in and tamp it down with the other pencil.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:10:21am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:10:30am
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ericblair  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:12:07am

re: #357 Dr Lizardo

Czech cops in Prague used to be notorious for that, especially during the height of tourist season, but things have significantly improved over the last 19 years. It’s been chalked up to much better training and the adoption of high standards of professionalism.

Thinking it through, I take my last statement back a bit. The Russian cops have been getting somewhat better over the last few years (i.e. they will solicit bribes from you to tear up a traffic ticket, but not just shake you down on the street for a few bucks). There’s a bit of a shit disturbance now about a well known online “police ombudsman” who got arrested because he was criticizing the government’s labor abuses of police, and the cops have actually been taking protest actions (article here.)

So, while the run-of-the-mill cops are still there fundamentally to put down unrest, they are being considered increasingly squishy by the Kremlin. Accordingly, there’s now a Russian Guard (Rosgvardia) who are intended to be the real Praetorian guard fascist legbreakers, legally authorized to shoot and kill protestors.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:12:18am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:12:30am

re: #362 unproven innocence

Found 3:

He also claimed he would build a wall and make Mexico pay for it.

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:15:34am

re: #365 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

[Embedded content]

I remember a few lizards (myself among them) trying to sound the alarm back in ‘17, only to be met with assurances that there would be checks on his behavior. That if his own party didn’t stop him (they’d want to be reelected), then the courts would stop him, so anybody saying he’d tear through the law to rule like a king was engaged in “hysteria.”

Sweet summer children…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:17:23am

re: #369 Targetpractice

I remember a few lizards (myself among them) trying to sound the alarm back in ‘17, only to be met with assurances that there would be checks on his behavior. That if his own party didn’t stop him (they’d want to be reelected), then the courts would stop him, so anybody saying he’d tear through the law to rule like a king was engaged in “hysteria.”

Sweet summer children…

For the most part the courts have stopped him.

I had no illusions the GOP would do anything, because all they care about is gaining and expanding power.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:18:08am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:20:05am
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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:20:09am

re: #370 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

For the most part the courts have stopped him.

I had no illusions the GOP would do anything, because all they care about is gaining and expanding power.

The courts have delayed him. And between Barr and Kavanaugh, we don’t even really have that anymore. The only thing holding him back at this point is judges taking their time to hear cases.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:21:53am

re: #373 Targetpractice

The courts have delayed him. And between Barr and Kavanaugh, we don’t even really have that anymore. The only thing holding him back at this point is judges taking their time to hear cases.

Which is why the election is important.

Court cases take time, including conservatives trying to appeal cases.

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unproven innocence  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:22:33am

re: #368 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He also claimed he would build a wall and make Mexico pay for it.

He also claimed to be the most humble person in the world… EVER!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:23:18am

re: #375 unproven innocence

He also claimed to be the most humble person in the world… EVER!

And the most transparent person ever.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:23:39am

re: #373 Targetpractice

The courts have delayed him. And between Barr and Kavanaugh, we don’t even really have that anymore. The only thing holding him back at this point is judges taking their time to hear cases.

Not to mention that we now have Sen. Lindsey Graham urging older Republican judges to retire ASAP so they can fill those vacancies. But like I said yesterday, this is actually a tacit, between-the-lines admission on Sen. Graham’s part that he likely foresees the GOP going down in flames in November and possibly being out of power for quite some time.

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:23:42am

re: #374 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Which is why the election is important.

Court cases take time, including conservatives trying to appeal cases.

Ayep. Which is what infuriates me so much about these assholes going “Well, Biden just doesn’t excite me. I wish he’d drop out so I could vote for Bernie!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:23:50am

I’m going to hit the rack. Catch y’all later.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:34:57am

Only good to some of this is that more and more people understand that it is not “just rhetoric”. His words have had definite and disastrous consequences.

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ericblair  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:51:23am

Interesting article in Deutsche Welle about how it isn’t exactly a walk in the park for black people here in Europe either: George Floyd killing opens racism wounds for European blacks.

There seems to be a common perception among North Americans that, since much of Western Europe is far more progressive about income taxes, universal healthcare, and the like, it must be miles ahead of the US on race relations. A few conversations with some locals here would probably disabuse them of that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 1:54:31am

re: #381 ericblair

There seems to be a common perception among North Americans that, since much of Western Europe is far more progressive about income taxes, universal healthcare, and the like, it must be miles ahead of the US on race relations. A few conversations with some locals here would probably disabuse them of that.

West Germans have been living with and among foreigners for decades and are generally okay about it, even if they are not always a model of tolerance and acceptance.

Things look somewhat different in former East Germany, which only knew guest workers from Vietnam or Korea, and exchange students from other third-world countries, who generally lived in segregated housing and were sent home when their stay ended.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 2, 2020 • 2:00:21am

re: #381 ericblair

re: #382 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Czechs are almost shockingly racist. They have no problems with Koreans or Vietnamese, who they consider to be honorary white people, but beyond that, yeesh.

IIRC, Czech Republic is regarded as the most racist country in the EU.

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ericblair  Jun 2, 2020 • 2:16:06am

re: #382 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

West Germans have been living with and among foreigners for decades and are generally okay about it, even if they are now always a model of tolerance and acceptance.

Things look somewhat different in former East Germany, which only knew guest workers from Vietnam or Korea, and exchange students from other third-world countries, who generally lived in segregated housing and were sent home when they stay ended.

I think we had a discussion a while back about this: after WWII, West Germans were brought up being taught that Germany had committed a great evil with its genocide, and this should never happen again. East Germans were taught that all the Nazis went over to West Germany and of course the DDR was a haven of tolerance and understanding.

Americans in general seem a lot more sensitized to race than a lot of Europeans, who, even if they mean well, just don’t get what’s offensive. Some of the Black Peter parades in Belgium and the Netherlands were just amazingly racist, with big-nosed Jewish characters and Sambo-like black people: most Americans’ jaws would just drop, but for a lot of local people it’s nothing. This is getting attention now, glad to say.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 2:21:07am

re: #384 ericblair

Americans in general seem a lot more sensitized to race than a lot of Europeans, who, even if they mean well, just don’t get what’s offensive. Some of the Black Peter parades in Belgium and the Netherlands were just amazingly racist, with big-nosed Jewish characters and Sambo-like black people: most Americans’ jaws would just drop, but for a lot of local people it’s nothing. This is getting attention now, glad to say.

That is all very rooted in their colonial heritage, and colonialism, like slavery, is based on the notion that one race is superior to another. Until the late 80’s, chocolate-covered sugar cream treats were called Negerküsse and the brand logo showed crude caricatures of Africans…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 2:34:27am

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 2, 2020 • 2:46:59am
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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2020 • 2:48:54am

re: #387 goddamnedfrank

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The level of ignorance I’ve seen this year about how our government actually works just sickens me. The dumbing down of America has been a total success, as people tell themselves that voting doesn’t matter because “nothing changes,” then they scream aloud about why people won’t change the laws.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 3:06:02am

re: #388 Targetpractice

The level of ignorance I’ve seen this year about how our government actually works just sickens me. The dumbing down of America has been a total success, as people tell themselves that voting doesn’t matter because “nothing changes,” then they scream aloud about why people won’t change the laws.

Remember, a lot of Americans supported Trump because he successfully marketed himself as the anti-politician, the ultimate outsider, who was going to come in, kick ass and set things straight for America….

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2020 • 3:21:34am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 3:22:25am

and Trump gets to decide and define which actions are “necessary”…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 2, 2020 • 3:40:06am

re: #382 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

West Germans have been living with and among foreigners for decades and are generally okay about it, even if they are not always a model of tolerance and acceptance.

West Germany allowed in Turks as guest workers after WW2 and…well, by German standards maybe it wasn’t bad, but Turks were definitely treated with the kind of contempt and othering Central Americans get in the US.

But Turks were also prime Neonazi targets on the multiple occasions there were fascist street culture flare-ups.

And while I haven’t checked on it lately to see if things have changed. , for many years there were a bunch of German-born people of Turkish descent living in a legal limbo w/r/t citizenship they didn’t get that status as babies and were being slow-walked as adults.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 3:46:01am

re: #392 The Ghost of a Flea

And while I haven’t checked on it lately to see if things have changed. , for many years there were a bunch of German-born people of Turkish descent living in a legal limbo w/r/t citizenship they didn’t get that status as babies and were being slow-walked as adults.

Germany amended it citizenship laws as of 2000 so that anyone born in Germany to a legal resident alien is automatically granted German citizenship. (I know this because my daughter, born 1998, was born an American but her subsequent siblings born after 2000 are German)

As I said, they are not always models of acceptance and tolerance, but are much better at it than the provincial East Germans, many of whom never really interacted with a foreigner until after 1989…

I recall a Russian friend describing how Vietnamese and North Korean guest workers would head home loaded down with appliances and other things that they had “bought out from under the noses of Russian workers”….so instead of “They’re takin’ our jerrrrbs!” it was “They’re take our consumer gerrrrds!”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 2, 2020 • 3:50:04am

re: #393 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sorry if I sound pedantic.

Shit’s got me on edge and if I don’t think about it I get very precise in a voluble way.

Some of the specifics of the violence and the especially the people making excuses is proc-ing my personal traumas, but it comes out as bursts of analytical abstraction because sometimes I can’t identify the feeling.

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Jay C  Jun 2, 2020 • 3:51:28am

re: #393 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall a Russian friend describing how Vietnamese and North Korean guest workers would head home loaded down with appliances and other things that they had “bought out from under the noses of Russian workers”….so instead of “They’re takin’ our jerrrrbs!” it was “They’re take our consumer gerrrrds!”

Must have been a while ago: I can’t imagine it, nowadays, having such a paucity of consumer goods that Russian stuff would be so in demand…..

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Jay C  Jun 2, 2020 • 3:54:26am

re: #394 The Ghost of a Flea

Sorry if I sound pedantic.

Shit’s got me on edge and if I don’t think about it I get very precise in a voluble way.

Some of the specifics of the violence and the especially the people making excuses is proc-ing my personal traumas, but it comes out as bursts of analytical abstraction because sometimes I can’t identify the feeling.

Don’t sweat it, GF: shit’s got us all on edge, I think.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 3:59:48am

I am encouraged to see that my 16-year-old daughter is getting active in supporting BLM.

But yeah, I fear that things will have to get worse, perhaps much, much worse, before they can start to get better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 4:03:22am

re: #395 Jay C

Must have been a while ago: I can’t imagine it, nowadays, having such a paucity of consumer goods that Russian stuff would be so in demand…..

I also recall an East German explaining how we Westerners liked to joke about Communists having to stand in line for a chance to spend their money, and pointed out that we Capitalist Westerners don’t have to wait - but gladly spend hours standing in rush-hour traffic each day to have a chance to earn our money…

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 2, 2020 • 4:56:43am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 2, 2020 • 4:57:45am

re: #311 goddamnedfrank

Two girls just walked past us told the cops to suck their dick then pointed to us and told us to report it OK

I do not understand what this says.

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steve_davis  Jun 2, 2020 • 4:58:15am

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

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you know, this would take balls of steel, and would probably have his security detail losing its mind, but if Biden wants to win the election tomorrow, he should —with reasonable care—wander into the crowd of protestors and just have a dialogue. If they really wanted to burn Trump down, they could have Obama show up as well and put his community organizing skills to work.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 4:59:21am

re: #401 steve_davis

you know, this would take balls of steel, and would probably have his security detail losing its mind, but if Biden wants to win the election tomorrow, he should —with reasonable care—wander into the crowd of protestors and just have a dialogue. If they really wanted to burn Trump down, they could have Obama show up as well and put his community organizing skills to work.

too much could go wrong and it would be twisted on its head as Biden sympathizing with cop-killing terrorists.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 2, 2020 • 4:59:44am

re: #393 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As I said, they are not always models of acceptance and tolerance, but are much better at it than the provincial East Germans, many of whom never really interacted with a foreigner until after 1989…

That word, “provincial”…..yeah, that describes the attitudes and behavior of a lot of Czech people. Much like their compatriots in the former DDR, there’s still an entire generation of Czechs - many of whom are now in key positions of power - who never really interacted with foreigners until after 1989. And here in Ostrava, I’d say probably a bit later than that. Prague, being the social, political and economic capital of the country, has always been a bit more open.

The first Chinese restaurant opened in Ostrava in the mid-1970s, but it was really only for the nomenklatura of the time (it’s still in business, though the ownership has changed hands). The first Mexican restaurant didn’t open here until 2017….only three years ago (and it does brisk business).

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:00:11am

Addendum to your list of RW goon squad characterisitcs: aluminum baseball bats.

They are the weapons the Philadelphia “vigilante” groups carried last night. Bats were referenced in a rumored plan to disrupt protests in Alabama. This choice reflects practical, legal, and symbolic thinking.

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lizardofid  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:01:49am

re: #372 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We had first today: curbside shoplifting!

A masked man asked to see the new Pelosi book by @mollyesque, then took off down the street with it… .

Got anything by Abbey Hoffman?

Oh, good morning!

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Jay C  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:05:25am

re: #402 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

too much could go wrong and it would be twisted on its head as Biden sympathizing with cop-killing terrorists.

I dunno: they are probably going to use that tack anyway. And it’s pretty much a given that ANYTHING used by Trump’s Presidential campaign is going to be “twisted” - in any definition of the term……

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:15:06am

re: #406 Jay C

I dunno: they are probably going to use that tack anyway. And it’s pretty much a given that ANYTHING used by Trump’s Presidential campaign is going to be “twisted” - in any definition of the term……

They are already questioning the motives of his staff workers for bailing out arrested protesters…spinning it as coddling Antifa terrorists.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:17:38am

re: #401 steve_davis

you know, this would take balls of steel, and would probably have his security detail losing its mind, but if Biden wants to win the election tomorrow, he should —with reasonable care—wander into the crowd of protestors and just have a dialogue. If they really wanted to burn Trump down, they could have Obama show up as well and put his community organizing skills to work.

Didn’t he do that yesterday? I thought I saw pictures.

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lizardofid  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:25:49am

re: #398 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I also recall an East German explaining how we Westerners liked to joke about Communists having to stand in line for a chance to spend their money, and pointed out that we Capitalist Westerners don’t have to wait - but gladly spend hours standing in rush-hour traffic each day to have a chance to earn our money…

An East German mechanic I worked with back in the day explained to me that the had the perfect system. “We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:27:29am

goddamnit

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:31:42am

re: #409 lizardofid

An East German mechanic I worked with back in the day explained to me that the had the perfect system. “We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us.”

I recall another article on Communist economies entitles Where Money has Little Currency, in that it was connections and access to goods and services that determined one’s material standard of living much more than the mere amount of money that one earned.

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Jay C  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:31:47am

Well, The New York Times (for today, anyway), has dropped the mealy-mouthing for their headlines, and are (for today, anyway) reporting it like it is:

Authorities Use Tear Gas So President Can Pose for Photo

And FPing a comment from the Episcopal Bishop of Washington:

“He did not pray,” the bishop, Mariann E. Budde, said in an interview. Referring to the death of the black man in police custody that set off the protests, she added: “He did not mention George Floyd, he did not mention the agony of people who have been subjected to this kind of horrific expression of racism and white supremacy for hundreds of years. We need a president who can unify and heal. He has done the opposite of that, and we are left to pick up the pieces.”

Oh, and apparently, according to the NYT, the photo-op at the church was Hope Hicks’ idea.

ETA: This is the online edition: the print ed I got this morning still has the idiot lede: “Chaos Spreads: Trump Vows “To End It’”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:39:37am

re: #411 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall another article on Communist economies entitles Where Money has Little Currency, in that it was connections and access to goods and services that determined one’s material standard of living much more than the mere amount of money that one earned.

And that’s why butchers and greengrocers were kings during the communist era in Czechoslovakia.

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steve_davis  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:49:04am

re: #79 William Lewis

Since it’s old photo time, here’s a little one of mine. First day of first grade.

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I remember my first day of first grade, only because the teacher called on me to come try to drag in some terrified girl whose name I can’t remember but whom I knew once upon a time. That kid was not coming through that door. I still have an image of her tear-stained face. I think they finally got her in the class, a day or two later.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:53:56am

re: #413 Dr Lizardo

And that’s why butchers and greengrocers were kings during the communist era in Czechoslovakia.

From Monty Python:

Grip: Right, let’s go.
Bag: Who’s giving the orders round here?
Grip: I am. I’m senior to you.
Bag: No, you’re not. You’re a greengrocer, I’m an insurance salesman.
Grip: Greengrocers are senior to insurance salesmen.
Wallet Cool it. I’m an ice-cream salesmen and I am senior to both of you.
Bag: You’re an ice-cream salesman? I thought you were a veterenarian.
Wallet I got promoted. Let’s go.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:55:20am

re: #408 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Didn’t he do that yesterday? I thought I saw pictures.

he did

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:55:33am

re: #414 steve_davis

I remember my first day of first grade, only because the teacher called on me to come try to drag in some terrified girl whose name I can’t remember but whom I knew once upon a time. That kid was not coming through that door. I still have an image of her tear-stained face. I think they finally got her in the class, a day or two later.

In Ancient Pittsburgh the public schools had kindergarten at 5, the Catholic schools didn’t. Our preschool gang was evenly split. One September half of us disappeared into The Machine, the Catholic kids looked around and knew we had dodged a bullet.

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sagehen  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:57:22am

THREAD

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:57:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:58:16am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is he going to make the protesters pay for it?

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 5:59:15am

re: #420 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Is he going to make the protesters pay for it?

ACTUALLY, yes.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:00:11am

re: #405 lizardofid

Got anything by Abbey Hoffman?

Oh, good morning!

we had one copy but….
……
true story. I borrowed a copy back when it came out and never returned it

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:01:29am

re: #422 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

we had one copy but….
……
true story. I borrowed a copy back when it came out and never returned it

Abbie H wound up as a hedge fund manager or some similar shit.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:04:06am

re: #401 steve_davis

you know, this would take balls of steel, and would probably have his security detail losing its mind, but if Biden wants to win the election tomorrow, he should —with reasonable care—wander into the crowd of protestors and just have a dialogue. If they really wanted to burn Trump down, they could have Obama show up as well and put his community organizing skills to work.

rando commenter:

Joe Biden can say very clearly, « Donald Trump not only violated his oath to the Constitution. His dictator tactics endanger all Americans. According to Trump, if the NRA protests outside the White House when I am President, I can call in thé US military to assault them, hit them with tear gas and bullets, even though their protest is legal. That’s wrong, it is evil, it is illegal. And when I am President I swear that I will never turn our military on honest civilians in peaceful protest. You are allowed to disagree with President Biden… »

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steve_davis  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:04:53am

re: #110 BlueGrl21

This Episcopalian is disgusted too.

fuck, are all of us episcopalians in here? I knew there was something I liked about you bastards!

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:05:03am

re: #331 Dread Pirate

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I run my own private aircraft tracker. I’m set.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:05:42am

re: #425 steve_davis

fuck, are all of us episcopalians in here? I knew there was something I liked about you bastards!

The Tiber is this-a-way.

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Jay C  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:10:29am

re: #423 Decatur Deb

Abbie H wound up as a hedge fund manager or some similar shit.

Wrong Chicago Seven guy: it was Jerry Rubin who ended up as a businessman: Abbie Hoffman was still (AFACBD) an under-employed ex-radical ex-author when he died (suicide, 1989).

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Jay C  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:11:22am

re: #425 steve_davis

fuck, are all of us episcopalians in here? I knew there was something I liked about you bastards!

Not “all”: I’m Jewish. And I still say “Fuck Trump”…..

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:11:28am

re: #428 Jay C

Wrong Chicago Seven guy: it was Jerry Rubin who ended up as a businessman: Abbie Hoffman was still (AFACBD) an under-employed ex-radical ex-author when he died (suicide, 1989).

Sorry. Mixing up my 7s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:14:00am

lol

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:14:33am
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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:15:28am

My wife said a number of podcasts, like the Paula Poundstone one she listens to, aren’t releasing today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:15:56am
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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:16:33am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

A new shipment has just come in:

Fuck Trump, Fuck the GOP, and fuck the fucking media that continues to magic balance fairy the fuck out of Trump’s photo ops that occurred only after Trump ordered peaceful protesters get tear gassed out of Lafayette Park while wondering where Biden was (he was *in* church meeting with protesters). Biden’s been doing pressers but getting none of the press that Trump’s fucking lectern did awaiting him countless times during 2016.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:18:54am

re: #429 Jay C

Not “all”: I’m Jewish. And I still say “Fuck Trump”…..

And I’m an atheist and I think Fuck Trump isn’t sufficient. Throw that motherfucker in prison for life along with his shitty offspring.

Fuck Trump with a rusty chain saw.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:23:10am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:23:25am

re: #423 Decatur Deb

Abbie H wound up as a hedge fund manager or some similar shit.

You’re confusing him with Jerry Rubin. Hoffman himself committed suicide some years ago.

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:24:49am

re: #381 ericblair

Interesting article in Deutsche Welle about how it isn’t exactly a walk in the park for black people here in Europe either: George Floyd killing opens racism wounds for European blacks.

There seems to be a common perception among North Americans that, since much of Western Europe is far more progressive about income taxes, universal healthcare, and the like, it must be miles ahead of the US on race relations. A few conversations with some locals here would probably disabuse them of that.

I thought that was one of the interesting threads in the first season of the 13th Doctor, the companions dealing with racism in England.

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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:25:20am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

He mobilized faster to build that flimsy wall to keep peaceful protesters away from the WH than he did for any aspect of the covid19 response (other than blaming China for his failures - and that only after claiming China did a great job containing it). That’s not a sign of strength. It’s a continuing sign of weakness and a fragile ego who can’t take criticism and listens only to what he wants to hear.

His entire admin is geared to this - they tell him what he wants to hear, not what he needs to hear, and his instincts are awful by any standard other than knowing that the GOP will do whatever the fuck he wants them to do because they’re scared of his base and scared of him. GOPers and right wing lunatics like Coulter don’t like Trump not because of his policies, but because he’s incompetent at implementing them.

Meanwhile, we learn that foreign white nationalist groups are busy impersonating antifa as a way to infiltrate and coopt the protests against police brutality and institutional racism in policing and law enforcement.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:27:01am

re: #391 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and Trump Stephen Miller gets to decide and define which actions are “necessary”…

FTFY.

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:28:59am

re: #402 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

too much could go wrong and it would be twisted on its head as Biden sympathizing with cop-killing terrorists.

He’s already being associated with cop-killing terrorists since many of his staff are contributing to funds to help those arrested for protesting. But the logistics of him walking into a protest would be too much, especially since we are still dealing with a pandemic.

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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:29:05am

re: #439 Belafon

I thought that was one of the interesting threads in the first season of the 13th Doctor, the companions dealing with racism in England.

The possibility that the Doctor could regenerate as a woman was heresy among some. That the Doctor could be a person of color was abhorrent to others - and that Jo Martin’s Doctor is officially canon as an earlier regeneration of the Doctor. Well, that’s blasphemy among a certain set.

I see it as a welcome change.

It’s the same with James Bond - people would go nuts if it’s not a white guy.

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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:30:05am

Reminder:

Trump mobilized faster to send troops to quell riots than he was to stop a pandemic.

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steve_davis  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:30:06am

re: #183 stpaulbear

I wonder how many subscribers the NYT will lose tomorrow?

they lost me yesterday, though it was only because I discovered one of my university libraries has the ny times available digitally.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:34:28am

There’s not a democratic bone in the rotting body that is Donald Trump. Donald Trump’s concept of governance comes not from democracy but from tyrants. This motherfucker didn’t belong anywhere near the White House. He has stained us and we’re going to spend the rest of our lives cleaning up shit while presumably his heirs still live the good life. After all this, I want to see Trumps in prisons. I want to see Trumps humiliated. I want the Trump brand to be ruined. And I want his place in history and popular lexicon as an orange tyrant who preferred pandering to this absurd idea that he;s a man of faith than actually leading. Hope Trump is proud of himself. This country was a lot better off when he was just a stupid reality show host.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:35:16am

re: #443 lawhawk

The possibility that the Doctor could regenerate as a woman was heresy among some. That the Doctor could be a person of color was abhorrent to others - and that Jo Martin’s Doctor is officially canon as an earlier regeneration of the Doctor. Well, that’s blasphemy among a certain set.

I see it as a welcome change.

It’s the same with James Bond - people would go nuts if it’s not a white guy.

The people who complain the most about so called identity politics have everything vested in their identities as heterosexual, white, nominally Christian men.

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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:40:35am

Police brutality:

Two men standing in street talking and doing nothing more than standing there are shot by cops - because the cops could.

Doesn’t matter if there was a curfew or not. There’s zero excuse for opening fire in this fashion.

Cops are revealing their true nature in this latest crisis - and the good cops need to hold their own accountable. Silence is assent.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:41:18am

re: #444 lawhawk

But took months to figure out testing centers for Covid-19

If you have testing, you have cases…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:41:35am

re: #440 lawhawk

Doonesbury can now just break out the Watergate-era cartoons of the wall going up blocking the view of the White House.

Edit:
Link added for those not familiar with it.
readingdoonesbury.com

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jeffreyw  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:42:14am

re: #425 steve_davis

fuck, are all of us episcopalians in here? I knew there was something I liked about you bastards!

I am an atheist, but only as an amateur.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:42:53am

re: #446 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There’s not a democratic bone in the rotting body that is Donald Trump. Donald Trump’s concept of governance comes not from democracy but from tyrants.

It really sounds like Donnie called Vlad and asked him what he would do, which would be to phone the provincial governors (who are all appointed by him) and tell them to sort things asap-ski…

And what did Trump try to do himself afterwards?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:45:04am

re: #444 lawhawk

In part because I’m sure there were contingency plans in place for doing just this*. And the Trump Administration didn’t scrap them right away like they did the pandemic preparation plans.

* - I meant in terms of converting places like a convention center into a operations headquarters. That it’d be done for “riot control” is probably a sub-section since they’d possibly need to do that for a number of reasons including dealing with natural disasters or some sort of very large industrial accident or fire.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:47:00am

re: #452 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It really sounds like Donnie called Vlad and asked him what he would do, which would be to phone the provincial governors (who are all appointed by him) and tell them to sort things asap-ski…

And what did Trump try to do himself afterwards?

I’m looking forward to a President that doesn’t see Putin as an informal advisor. Trump is nothing but a Putin stooge.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:50:41am

re: #454 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m looking forward to a President that doesn’t see Putin as an informal advisor. Trump is nothing but a Putin stooge.

Nothing informal about it. Putin takes his marching orders from Vlad

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:55:31am

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retired cynic  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:58:54am

Interesting read: A Roundtable on Jared Kushner’s Formative Years

In 2006, the 25-year-old Kushner bought the New Yorker Observer. He was full of self-confidence—and considerably less knowledge of the newspaper business. Two former Observer editors and a former reporter talk about the mind and management ideas of the man they knew.

McGeveran: The joke is that no one can do all of those jobs at once. If you know enough to solve the Middle East peace crises, how on earth would you have time to know enough about the other things? So it’s almost like that’s exactly where the fraud is. I’m reminded of a moment early in my period of interim editor. He was going to teach me how to be a highly important person instead of an editorial ragamuffin. He had me come to this event that was a dinner; there were 16 people at tables. Elon Musk was there. It was very powerful people. The idea was that he convened a group of people that was behind some magic curtain that I didn’t know about. He said I needed to learn how to have conversations with these kinds of people. The conversations were these philosophical, high-level conversations about the disposition of society and the world economy. It wasn’t political, mostly because it was so vague. It was just a very baffling room to be in. I think he believes there is this Nietzsche-esque plane that certain people are meant to exist on. Up there everyone is just a little dot. If you’re going to make a decision that’s going to impact the lives of millions of people, then you can’t listen to all this bullshit, all these ragamuffin editors and experts and analysts and scientists and stuff. They’re service staff to this layer of people who have this chosen quality. That was my first intimation that he might buy into that. That’s what happened. He talked about this conversion when he was on the campaign trail with Trump. He says that he saw this look in the eyes of people, and the people were gnashing their teeth and the government wasn’t paying attention to them. That has to be bullshit. I think it’s that he saw these people, and he saw the look in their eyes, and he thought, We can run the world if we can corral a bunch of people this way. Strictly speaking, that’s a form of nihilism, but I do think it’s actually raw elitism.

My emphasis.

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plansbandc  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:59:11am

re: #402 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes. My Republicans on FB are already saying he’s a terrorist supporter because he’s trying to help raise legal funds for the arrested protesters.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:59:21am

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 6:59:52am

re: #458 plansbandc

Yes. My Republicans on FB are already saying he’s a terrorist supporter because he’s trying to help raise legal funds for the arrested protesters.

Fuck em.

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:02:04am

re: #457 retired cynic

Interesting read: A Roundtable on Jared Kushner’s Formative Years

My emphasis.

Some people are born Dunning-Kruger material, and others have it thrust upon them.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:03:27am

Found the bee photo looking at photos from DC I took in 2015 in order to pick one out for my daily FB photo posting. I chose this one:

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:04:07am

re: #448 lawhawk

Police brutality:

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Two men standing in street talking and doing nothing more than standing there are shot by cops - because the cops could.

Doesn’t matter if there was a curfew or not. There’s zero excuse for opening fire in this fashion.

Cops are revealing their true nature in this latest crisis - and the good cops need to hold their own accountable. Silence is assent.

Would really like to see serious eye protection in this kind of action. It’s more valuable and less provocative than masks.

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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:07:14am

re: #463 Decatur Deb

Would really like to see serious eye protection in this kind of action. It’s more valuable and less provocative than masks.

I’d like to see cops prosecuted for this - because it would alleviate the need for protesters having to stand there and get shot. Root causes and all.

Eye protection would be seen as a provocation. Anything short of sprawled on the ground bleeding out can be seen as a provocation. Praying is seen as provocation. Priests were among those tear gassed by Trump’s jack booted thugs who cleared Lafayette Park for his inane photo op.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:08:33am
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i(m)p(each)sos  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:09:58am

re: #456 The Pie Overlord!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:11:48am

Now that Trump has annexed Lafayette Park I presume he expects appeasement before he annexes the rest of Washington, D.C.

With Poland out of easy reach I’m not sure whether he goes after Greenland or Canada after that.
///

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lizardofid  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:15:36am

re: #462 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Found the bee photo looking at photos from DC I took in 2015 in order to pick one out for my daily FB photo posting. I chose this one:

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Is that Euglassia watsonia?

//

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ericblair  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:16:52am

If you’re wondering how this shitshow is playing in Peoria, apparently not well.

These pro-human rights/anti-government protests historically fracture the right, not the left. There are still a large fraction of conservative voters who, despite being selfish racists, don’t like the cops or The Gummint any more than they like minorities.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:19:18am

re: #468 lizardofid

Is that Euglassia watsonia?

//

hand clap. Had to think about that a bit once I saw the “//”.

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sagehen  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:20:18am

re: #467 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Now that Trump has annexed Lafayette Park I presume he expects appeasement before he annexes the rest of Washington, D.C.

With Poland out of easy reach I’m not sure whether he goes after Greenland or Canada after that.
///

Somebody with graphics and sign-making skills needs to turn Lafayette Park into the Sudetenland.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:21:22am

re: #456 The Pie Overlord!

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:21:56am

re: #464 lawhawk

I’d like to see cops prosecuted for this - because it would alleviate the need for protesters having to stand there and get shot. Root causes and all.

Eye protection would be seen as a provocation. Anything short of sprawled on the ground bleeding out can be seen as a provocation. Praying is seen as provocation. Priests were among those tear gassed by Trump’s jack booted thugs who cleared Lafayette Park for his inane photo op.

You go to demonstrate against the cops you have, not the cops you might want.

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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:22:58am

re: #469 ericblair

Meanwhile, we’re coming up on yet another anniversary of the Tienanmen Square massacre, and Pompeo is hosting a group of survivors today.

Just hours after teargassing peaceful protesters in Lafayette Park to hold a photo op for Trump.

This admin is inherently awful and evil.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:25:06am

re: #474 lawhawk

Meanwhile, we’re coming up on yet another anniversary of the Tienanmen Square massacre, and Pompeo is hosting a group of survivors today.

Just hours after teargassing peaceful protesters in Lafayette Park to hold a photo op for Trump.

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This admin is inherently awful and evil.

It’s gone full arbitrary and “realpolitik”. Hypocrisy has no meaning to them. You do whatever it takes, and they’ll be more and more open about it.

I’m surprised they haven’t hired Kissinger yet. Then again, I think even Kissinger had some standards.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:25:35am

re: #474 lawhawk

Meanwhile, we’re coming up on yet another anniversary of the Tienanmen Square massacre, and Pompeo is hosting a group of survivors today.

Just hours after teargassing peaceful protesters in Lafayette Park to hold a photo op for Trump.

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This admin is inherently awful and evil.

Trump who famously praised China’s response in Tiananmen too.

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:26:44am

re: #474 lawhawk

Meanwhile, we’re coming up on yet another anniversary of the Tienanmen Square massacre, and Pompeo is hosting a group of survivors today.

Just hours after teargassing peaceful protesters in Lafayette Park to hold a photo op for Trump.

This admin is inherently awful and evil.

Hopefully he gets an earfull.

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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:27:14am

re: #476 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Cotton’s going on about needing to crack down on protests, as though it will somehow stop the police brutality (which is only further exposed by these very crackdowns).

It’s self sustaining at this point. Every day brings new examples of police brutality, excessive and deadly force being used by cops because they feel they can get away with it and because it appears sanctioned from Trump on down.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:28:07am

Lots of police activity 3 blocks from me last night and it went past 1AM. Sirens and the copters flying around…Internet kept winking out too

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:28:11am

re: #478 lawhawk

Cotton’s going on about needing to crack down on protests, as though it will somehow stop the police brutality (which is only further exposed by these very crackdowns).

It’s self sustaining at this point. Every day brings new examples of police brutality, excessive and deadly force being used by cops because they feel they can get away with it and because it appears sanctioned from Trump on down.

Stretch a right winger who claims to hate “big government”, reveal an authoritarian.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:31:22am

Is anyone watching Biden??

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:31:52am

re: #478 lawhawk

Cotton’s going on about needing to crack down on protests, as though it will somehow stop the police brutality (which is only further exposed by these very crackdowns).

It’s self sustaining at this point. Every day brings new examples of police brutality, excessive and deadly force being used by cops because they feel they can get away with it and because it appears sanctioned from Trump on down.

I’m seeing an interesting split in the various gun owner/collector folks I know with recent events, especially last night. While many are, perhaps not so strangely, silent right now a number of them are pretty upset by this. And a few are in the Tom Cotton camp, generally the ones I expected to be vocal in that regard.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:32:19am

re: #481 HRH Stanley Sea

Is anyone watching Biden??

I hope he’s taking so many shots at Trump that The Heinous Anus looks like Fearless Fosdick!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:32:52am
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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:33:03am

Very very good speech.

As always, Joe knows how to reassure us.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:34:06am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:34:09am

re: #482 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I’m seeing an interesting split in the various gun owner/collector folks I know with recent events, especially last night. While many are, perhaps not so strangely, silent right now a number of them are pretty upset by this. And a few are in the Tom Cotton camp, generally the ones I expected to be vocal in that regard.

Any precedents and structures the Trumpisti create will be available to President Biden in 8 months.

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CleverToad  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:34:13am

re: #456 The Pie Overlord!

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:34:47am
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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:35:33am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:35:37am

He’s being stupid again. Must be a day ending in Y.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:36:29am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:37:01am

re: #491 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s being stupid again. Must be a day ending in Y.

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It’s going to be a good day when that asshole croaks.

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cat-tikvah  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:37:16am

re: #390 Targetpractice

There must be a true reckoning. I want Nuremberg style trials.
No one walks.
They have to be held accountable for corruption and criminal actions, betraying America and democracy.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:37:31am

re: #489 jaunte

Ah, oh, no, I don’t think they wanted me to talk really, I don’t think they wanted me to say anything. It was just their way of having a bit of fun the swines. Strange thing is they make such bloody good cameras.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:38:44am

re: #494 cat-tikvah

There must be a true reckoning. I want Nuremberg style trials.
No one walks.
They have to be held accountable for corruption and criminal actions, betraying America and democracy.

Held accountable by who?

The power structure in America is overwhelmingly white and we’ve already seen how consistently they do NOT go after their own.

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:39:23am

re: #496 Eclectic Cyborg

Held accountable by who?

The power structure in America is overwhelmingly white and we’ve already seen how consistently they do NOT go after their own.

That’s the point. We want things to change enough that they are held accountable.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:40:30am

re: #497 Belafon

That’s the point. We want things to change enough that they are held accountable.

Oh okay. So steep uphill battle then. Got it.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:41:49am

Good morning/afternoon.
Hope you are all well.
Fuck Trump.

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:42:12am

re: #498 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh okay. So steep uphill battle then. Got it.

You don’t get to the top if you don’t start climbing.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:43:24am
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(((Archangel1)))  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:43:44am

re: #499 (((Archangel1)))

Q: would a line like “On November 3, Vote Biden - And let there be light” be too cheesy for a tagline to this?

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:44:57am

re: #492 The Pie Overlord!

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“The President held up the Bible yesterday… I just wish he’d open it once in awhile”

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:45:59am
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Ferdinand  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:46:21am

Great Josh Marshall quote: “Nothing more captures the man than holding a Christian bible in the air as a sort of dominance talisman after driving priests out of a church where they were tending to the needs of peaceful protestors.”

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:46:51am

re: #501 jaunte

LOLOLOL

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William Lewis  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:47:18am

re: #502 (((Archangel1)))

Q: would a line like “On November 3, Vote Biden - And let there be light” be too cheesy for a tagline to this?

I’d just put Vote Blue at the bottom, if anything more.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:47:54am

re: #504 Patricia Kayden

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And many of the people in the photo will be the escorts.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:48:51am

re: #479 Joe Bacon 🌹

Lots of police activity 3 blocks from me last night and it went past 1AM. Sirens and the copters flying around…Internet kept winking out too

I’m going to South Hill this morning. Work the office and casting shop if I’m allowed in.

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William Lewis  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:48:51am

re: #501 jaunte

Hehehehehe. Hands are too small… love it. That’s a classic of served cold.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:50:13am
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jaunte  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:50:28am
“Young Man, Young man-your arm is too short to box with God.”
— James Weldon Johnson

Nice update from the pastor.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:50:31am

Joe just needs this as a slogan.

HAD ENOUGH?

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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:51:29am
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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:51:33am

re: #513 Joe Bacon 🌹

Joe just needs this as a slogan.

HAD ENOUGH?

“Yeah, but where’s my motivation? It’s not enough just to be anti-Trump.”

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:52:17am
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Allow me to light that for you...  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:53:00am

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(((Archangel1)))  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:54:19am
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William Lewis  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:54:27am

NPR on the Photo-Op

President Trump’s controversial foray to St. John’s Church on Monday is generating widespread criticism, after police and National Guard troops physically cleared out demonstrators and used tear gas to allow a photo opportunity outside the church. The bishop who oversees St. John’s is among the critics.

“He used violent means to ask to be escorted across the park into the courtyard of the church,” Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington tells NPR’s Morning Edition. “He held up his Bible after speaking [an] inflammatory militarized approach to the wounds of our nation.”

The bishop continued:

“He did not pray. He did not offer a word of balm or condolence to those who are grieving. He did not seek to unify the country, but rather he used our symbols and our sacred space as a way to reinforce a message that is antithetical to everything that the person of Jesus, whom we follow, and the gospel texts that we strive to emulate … represent.”

‘He Did Not Pray’: Fallout Grows From Trump’s Photo-Op At St. John’s Church

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steve_davis  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:54:46am

re: #221 Joe Bacon 🌹

I don’t have a Bible and it’s times like this I wish I had a full set of the Great Books Of The Western World!

I don’t have the full set any longer, but if you are patient on Ebay, you can find the MUCH better second edition (vastly better translations, not all of which are double-columned) for a decent price. Do not under any circumstances pay money for the first edition with all its various printings. Those are absolutely horrible translations.

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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:55:49am

But his polling wont budge in the presidential elections? Still with a ceiling and floor of around 40%. This is the insanity and disconnect with the GOP. They don’t care what Trump does, and he’ll continue to get their support no matter how much the economy crashes or how many die.

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William Lewis  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:57:08am
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danarchy  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:57:16am

So this actually happened a couple night ago, but I hadn’t seen this before. These looters just went from some property damage and theft charges to attempted murder.

nydailynews.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:57:26am

re: #519 William Lewis

NPR on the Photo-Op

‘He Did Not Pray’: Fallout Grows From Trump’s Photo-Op At St. John’s Church

Great to see this.

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:57:28am

re: #521 lawhawk

But his polling wont budge in the presidential elections? Still with a ceiling and floor of around 40%. This is the insanity and disconnect with the GOP. They don’t care what Trump does, and he’ll continue to get their support no matter how much the economy crashes or how many die.

His polling won’t budge. Will they be inclined to get to the polls in November, though, if he keeps performing like that?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 7:58:52am

I say he dips under 40% by July.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:01:24am

re: #504 Patricia Kayden

This asshole again?

🤬🤢🤮

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:02:40am

re: #525 Belafon

His polling won’t budge. Will they be inclined to get to the polls in November, though, if he keeps performing like that?

I wonder how strong his support really is. Biden I think could win big and return the Senate and expand the House.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:04:14am

Jennifer Rubin is firing all the phaser banks and photon torpedoes at The Heinous Anus and his suckups!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:04:47am

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:06:07am

The Biden speech from this morning.

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jeffreyw  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:07:05am

re: #480 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Stretch a right winger who claims to hate “big government”, reveal an authoritarian.

They don’t want a government that tells them what to do, they want a government that tells you to do what they want you do.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:08:57am
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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:09:43am
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sagehen  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:11:44am

re: #521 lawhawk

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But his polling wont budge in the presidential elections? Still with a ceiling and floor of around 40%. This is the insanity and disconnect with the GOP. They don’t care what Trump does, and he’ll continue to get their support no matter how much the economy crashes or how many die.

So public sentiment about Biden’s response is 42% “Haven’t heard enough”.

That’s a pretty damning indictment of the media.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:12:25am

re: #526 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I say he dips under 40% by July.

I think his floor is 35%. And if he’s running at 35% to 40% by, let’s say, early October….he’s finished.

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lizardofid  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:13:13am

re: #534 lawhawk

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The thought of Donnie in a spider hole is not unappealing.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:13:45am

It seems jeffreyw and the birds skipped breakfast, but have a western good morning anyway!

Just chilling and building reserves for the struggle
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Mattand  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:13:52am

I want to walk away from the news, but I feel I can’t because I need to make sure I’m at least partially educated about what’s going on. To wit:

• I just read about the BBQ owner in Louisville and that whole mess. The fact this guy used to feed cops for free, and they may have killed him is just fucking sickening. The fact that responding officers all turned off their body cams makes me think they had all intentions of firing their weapons, regardless of what was going down.

I’m still shocked that the mayor fired the police chief, presumably over that. Speaking of police chiefs,

• Fucking LA police chief. He’s what scares me. Blaming looters for George Floyd’s death, because they have time travel powers.

That’s the guy who worries me. Sounds like a MAGAt police chief of a major city. Trump calls him tomorrow and says to napalm Watts, this guy will do it with a smile on his face.

• Minneapolis police are firing rubber bullets at people standing on their OWN FUCKING PORCHES and that police chief is still in charge. Makes me wonder if he threatened the mayor and told him he’s going to do whatever he wants.

Beginning to wonder if we’re going to see scenarios where police are openly running various cities and towns; basically overthrowing civilian rule. Not all cops, blah blah blah, but in my admittedly limited experience, I have yet to meet a cop who even considers voting Democratic.

• Rumor is a the local landmark mall is going to be the scene of a protest today. If it is, I hope everything is peaceful. After watching how Philly exploded over the last week, I’m not holding my breath.

I’m not that near the mall, but I started calculating what I have weapon-wise in case shit spills over into the residential neighborhoods.

• Trump’s sinking poll numbers have in the low 40’s.

Why is that number not 30% or lower? Americans are the worst.

God, this is soooooooo fucking upsetting. This country really is splitting apart before our eyes. The anger I have at every person who voted for Trump or who refused to vote for Clinton is starting to make me a bit sick.

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Allow me to light that for you...  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:14:03am

President Donald Trump has his thugs clear the streets so he can stand outside a boarded up church and hold up a Bible just like Jesus would have.

Hail Caligula!
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:16:54am

re: #533 Joe Bacon 🌹

“BREAKING NEWS: President Leaves White House”

(…but sadly, he had to come back)

542
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:20:55am

re: #536 Dr Lizardo

I think his floor is 35%. And if he’s running at 35% to 40% by, let’s say, early October….he’s finished.

Sounds right to me. I’d love to see a landslide.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:20:56am
Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds have donated $200,000 (£161,000) to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) amid nationwide protests over the killing of George Floyd by Minneapolis police.

The couple also posted a message on Instagram explaining their stance on the protests.

“We’ve never had to worry about preparing our kids for different rules of law or what might happen if we’re pulled over in the car,” they wrote.

“We don’t know what it’s like to experience that life day in and day out. We can’t imagine feeling that kind of fear and anger,” continued the post.

“We’re ashamed that in the past we’ve allowed ourselves to be uninformed about how deeply rooted systemic racism is.”

Lively also said that she and husband Reynolds “want to educate ourselves about other people’s experiences and talk to our kids about everything, all of it… especially our own complicity”.

The donation and message follow days of heated protests across major US cities.

independent.co.uk (Note: autoplay video embedded at link)

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:23:12am

re: #542 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Sounds right to me. I’d love to see a landslide.

Ideally, a landslide that takes a few scalps. Like Moscow Mitch, for example.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:23:38am

re: #544 Dr Lizardo

Ideally, a landslide that takes a few scalps. Like Moscow Mitch, for example.

Crimea Cornyn too.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:26:59am

He’s screaming again.

Also, still begging to get his military on:

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:28:36am

Head of GrandSon1’s public charter school, conducting classes by Zoom, sent this. He is the only White Anglo boy (WAB?) in his 3rd grade class:

(school) Family,

Tomorrow, Tuesday, June 2, (school) will be closed for the sake of our team and community.

Like many of you, I have spent the past week reading, watching horrific cell phone videos, grieving, and reflecting with loved ones. The events of the past few months and weeks have made it starkly apparent how systemic racism and inequities continue to impact and cut short the lives of Black and Brown people in our country. And all the great work in our schools and classrooms isn’t enough.

To my Black and Brown colleagues, scholars, and families, I can’t know what it is like to be in your shoes right now. I can’t imagine the pain, fear, suffering, and exhaustion. I will stand with our community to denounce the murder of innocent black men at the hands of police and to condemn the systemic inequities that lead to black and brown people being treated as lesser than white people. I can interrogate my own privilege and continue to strive for communities built on belonging, safety, and love. I charge my white colleagues to do this as well.

George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, and Breonna Taylor’s killings, coming in the wake of so many, are tragic moments but represent an eternity of injustice, suffering, fear, exploitation, and brutality of black and brown people in our country, since before its founding.

In 2020 it should be obvious that Black Lives Matter. It should be obvious that police brutality and killing is wrong. It should be obvious that all children deserve to grow up in loving communities where their safety, dignity, value, and humanity is seen and welcomed.

I recognize that words can be powerful. But often, not enough. In that spirit, we wanted to take public action to stand with our community and also recognize the deep exhaustion, grief, anger, and fear.

Tomorrow, our schools and workplace will be closed for a day of reflection, mental health, and rest for our community, especially for our Black and Brown community members. I want to listen and process with our community. Please take time for yourself and your family as we all try to process, and don’t hesitate to be in touch if there is anything (school) can do to support you.

So glad they moved the hell out of Birmingham.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:29:59am

re: #546 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s screaming again.

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There is a silent majority and we are tired of Toddler Trump’s Twitter thousand a day tantrums.

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makeitstop  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:30:57am

re: #423 Decatur Deb

Abbie H wound up as a hedge fund manager or some similar shit.

Wasn’t that Jerry Rubin?

(Sorry. Playing serious catch-up here.)

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:31:27am
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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:31:40am

re: #546 Eclectic Cyborg

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:31:40am

re: #546 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s screaming again.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:33:40am

re: #549 makeitstop

Wasn’t that Jerry Rubin?

(Sorry. Playing serious catch-up here.)

Several of the Yippies and Ramparts types turned to play-acting and worse. Couldn’t stand the Yippies, wasn’t totally fond of hippies—more of a Late Beat myself.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:36:12am

re: #553 Decatur Deb

Several of the Yippies and Ramparts types turned to play-acting and worse. Couldn’t stand the Yippies, wasn’t totally fond of hippies—more of a Late Beat myself.

Yes—Worst was David Horowitz who became a full blown Nazi.

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ckkatz  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:37:04am

re: #540 A Thousand Points Of Light…..Like Bullet Holes

The police officer on the left has an ACPD on his helmet. I believe that stands for Arlington County (Virginia) Police Department. As I understand it, Arlington County pulled their officers out of DC last night and abrogated the mutual assistance agreement with DC because of the Lafayette Park fiasco.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:37:28am

re: #554 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes—Worst was David Horowitz who became a full blown Nazi.

Horseshoe theory. He just traded his leftist vision of tyranny for a rightist vision.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:38:32am

re: #555 ckkatz

The police officer on the left has an ACPD on his helmet. I believe that stands for Arlington County (Virginia) Police Department. As I understand it, Arlington County pulled their officers out of DC last night and abrogated the mutual assistance agreement with DC because of the Lafayette Park fiasco.

Heard that too about Arlington County. For those who don’t know, AC is right on the border of DC. You can literally walk to DC from Arlington.

558
Jay C  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:42:52am

re: #527 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This asshole again?

🤬🤢🤮

Yep: Former Governor Scott Fucking Walker of Wisconsin.

Wonder if anybody’s pointed out to this bozo that it doesn’t take a whole lot of “guts” to walk across the street when you’re surrounded by dozens of security personnel, and have just had the Riot Squad clear the way for you with tear gas???

559
Sherlock Hound  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:46:09am

re: #556 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Horseshoe theory. He just traded his leftist vision of tyranny for a rightist vision.

I got shit from a Berner on Twitter because I suggested that a lot of them would flip like Horowitz did. My mind is unchanged. If Trump loses, a lot of Berners WILL flip.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:46:59am

re: #559 Sherlock Hound

I got shit from a Berner on Twitter because I suggested that a lot of them would flip like Horowitz did. My mind is unchanged. If Trump loses, a lot of Berners WILL flip.

I think a lot of them will too. They take all the wrong lessons from Trump and Trumpism.

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makeitstop  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:49:07am

re: #554 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes—Worst was David Horowitz who became a full blown Nazi.

Michael ‘Savage’ Weiner tried his hardest to become one with the Beats, but didn’t quite have what it took.

Prolly why he went full-on loon, too.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:56:25am
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Mattand  Jun 2, 2020 • 8:56:27am

So apparently there’s video floating around of Philly cops pepper spraying people on their knees and surrendering at the Vine Street Expressway protest.

And on top of that, the mayor’s press release is apparently a giant fabrication. Claims protestors attacked a police car when attendees who where there say it didn’t happen at all.

But hey, not all cops.

Welcome to the new normal.

564
stpaulbear  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:08:56am

re: #451 jeffreyw

I am an atheist, but only as an amateur.

I’m not sure if I’m atheist or agnostic.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:12:07am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:14:42am
567
Allow me to light that for you...  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:16:09am

re: #555 ckkatz

The police officer on the left has an ACPD on his helmet. I believe that stands for Arlington County (Virginia) Police Department. As I understand it, Arlington County pulled their officers out of DC last night and abrogated the mutual assistance agreement with DC because of the Lafayette Park fiasco.

Yes they did. The County did not appreciate them being used as thugs.
The actions of some of the officers might belay that thought.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:16:19am

He’s not letting this church as prop thing go.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:16:51am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:16:59am

re: #568 Teddy’s Person

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He’s not letting this church as prop thing go.

Works for me. It will just continue to erode his base.

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:17:14am

re: #567 A Thousand Points Of Light…..Like Bullet Holes

Yes they did. The County did not appreciate them being used as thugs.
The actions of some of the officers might belay that thought.

The officers might have enjoyed it even if the county didn’t like it.

572
Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:17:42am

re: #568 Teddy’s Person

He’s not letting this church as prop thing go.

He’s gotta fix his screw up yesterday.

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Allow me to light that for you...  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:18:28am

re: #571 Belafon

And I’m sure some did. Clearing the way for Augustus Infection The First.

574
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:18:59am

Listening to Biden. This is how a President talks. Not with self congratulatory platitudes but with compassion and empathy.

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:19:45am

re: #568 Teddy’s Person

“Immaculate Conception, like when my wife had my son. I wasn’t there, though, busy with other acquaintances.”

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retired cynic  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:19:58am

re: #394 The Ghost of a Flea

Sorry if I sound pedantic.

Shit’s got me on edge and if I don’t think about it I get very precise in a voluble way.

Some of the specifics of the violence and the especially the people making excuses is proc-ing my personal traumas, but it comes out as bursts of analytical abstraction because sometimes I can’t identify the feeling.

You are fine. I do the opposite, and blurt out statements that require context, context that existed in my mind at the time, but not as part of the statement.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:20:30am

re: #568 Teddy’s Person

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He’s not letting this church as prop thing go.

Is he going to hold up a Bingo card?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:23:17am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:23:49am
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BeachDem  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:24:52am

re: #557 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Heard that too about Arlington County. For those who don’t know, AC is right on the border of DC. You can literally walk to DC from Arlington.

And they announced it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:25:08am
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makeitstop  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:25:43am

re: #568 Teddy’s Person

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He’s not letting this church as prop thing go.

I guess Hope Hicks is gonna get a little something extra in her paycheck this week…

//

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Teukka  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:25:47am

Boy, are the RWNJ’s gonna get triggered by this mural…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:26:59am

re: #580 BeachDem

And they announced it.

If I recall, Arlington recently elected a reformer as their commonwealth’s attorney (commonwealth’s attorney are our DAs)

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:27:58am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:30:27am

re: #585 The Pie Overlord!

Wow. I almost forgot what a real press conference with a National leader sounded like.

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William Lewis  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:32:23am

re: #583 Teukka

Boy, are the RWNJ’s gonna get triggered by this mural…

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I love that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:32:34am

Stupid fuck will not let it go:

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BeachDem  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:33:31am

What a difference a year makes.

Last year’s state convention—21 candidates, biggest Clyburn fish fry ever, cocktail parties, massive dinner, all sorts of candidate ancillary events.

This year—vote for DNC and national convention delegates by email, possible online meeting later in the week.

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makeitstop  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:33:53am

Gotta love those signs.

He wanted to stop the ridicule, but it looks like he’s only caused it to intensify. Moron.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:34:08am

re: #569 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I sent this to WCVB Boston, Channel 5, an ABC affiliate.

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:34:13am

re: #588 Eclectic Cyborg

Stupid fuck will not let it go:

He only understands bullying.

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BeachDem  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:35:15am

re: #590 makeitstop

Gotta love those signs.

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He wanted to stop the ridicule, but it looks like he’s only caused it to intensify. Moron.

And

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:36:21am

re: #569 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What’s in the picture? We were having a debate the other night about bricks being in strange places, and mostly came to the conclusion that it was actually just real construction going on.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:37:58am

re: #585 The Pie Overlord!

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I’ll say it for you Justin: Fuck Trump!

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:38:08am

re: #593 BeachDem

And

Let me tell you about the evangelical wing of your denomination (for lack of a better term, since I know denomination generally only applies to protestants), Archbishop.

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makeitstop  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:38:51am

re: #594 Belafon

What’s in the picture? We were having a debate the other night about bricks being in strange places, and mostly came to the conclusion that it was actually just real construction going on.

It’s video of what appears to be a police video unloading what appear to be bricks into an alley. Hard to make out, though.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:38:51am

re: #590 makeitstop

He wanted to stop the ridicule, but it looks like he’s only caused it to intensify. Moron.

That’s what happens when your entire life is ridiculous.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:40:13am

re: #594 Belafon

What’s in the picture? We were having a debate the other night about bricks being in strange places, and mostly came to the conclusion that it was actually just real construction going on.

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BeachDem  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:40:27am

Another profile in courage

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retired cynic  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:40:34am

re: #469 ericblair

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If you’re wondering how this shitshow is playing in Peoria, apparently not well.

These pro-human rights/anti-government protests historically fracture the right, not the left. There are still a large fraction of conservative voters who, despite being selfish racists, don’t like the cops or The Gummint any more than they like minorities.

George Will, a person I detest heartily, has joined that throng: Trump must be removed. So must his congressional enablers. WaPo

Those who think our unhinged president’s recent mania about a murder two decades ago that never happened represents his moral nadir have missed the lesson of his life: There is no such thing as rock bottom. So, assume that the worst is yet to come. Which implicates national security: Abroad, anti-Americanism sleeps lightly when it sleeps at all, and it is wide-awake as decent people judge our nation’s health by the character of those to whom power is entrusted. Watching, too, are indecent people in Beijing and Moscow.

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ckkatz  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:41:16am

re: #567 A Thousand Points Of Light…..Like Bullet Holes

Yes they did. The County did not appreciate them being used as thugs.
The actions of some of the officers might belay that thought.

When I was doing user interface development and design, the first rule of good design that my team lead enforced, was to never provide an opportunity for a user to make a mistake. Although, even with our best efforts, users still proved to be far more creative and innovative (at making mistakes) than we had ever considered possible.

It seems to me that good leadership does it’s best to remove opportunities for officers to make bad choices. And that police officer actions are a direct reflection upon the leadership as well as the officer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:42:47am

re: #503 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

“The President held up the Bible at gunpoint yesterday… I just wish he’d open it once in awhile”

FTFY

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:43:25am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:44:58am

re: #501 jaunte

Heidi Thompson
@hthompson
Pastors on the steps of #StJohnsChurch calling for end to police brutality, solidarity with #DCProtests. “God is always on the side of the oppressed. Mr. President, I promise your hands are too small to box with God.”

Let’s face it — does anyone here really think Trump believes in God? He’s not Pence. Anymouse is probably not around now — but i would argue that Trump is basically an atheist. He’s like his BFF Putin who uses religion to further his goals, but was raised in atheistic Russia, and I’m sure thinks believers are rubes who can be taken to the cleaners.

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Mattand  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:45:21am

re: #564 stpaulbear

I’m not sure if I’m atheist or agnostic.

I’m atheist. All current evidence indicates that the afterlife isn’t real.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:45:33am

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:45:46am

re: #604 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

“Look, Bob, he can’t be dictator of the entire country, but we might be able to give him his own feifdom.”

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:45:53am

Holy crapola, we are in a Civil War.

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:46:36am

re: #609 Shropshire Slasher

Holy crapola, we are in a Civil War.

It started about 3 years ago.

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Teukka  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:47:32am

Sanity break - Tech humor:

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:48:13am

re: #610 Belafon

It started about 3 years ago.

Wow, never thought it would come to this.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:48:24am

re: #605 Hecuba’s daughter

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ckkatz  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:49:18am

re: #610 Belafon

It started about 3 years ago.

I’ve always assumed that it started when Bush the elder lost to Bill Clinton.

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Allow me to light that for you...  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:50:26am

re: #597 makeitstop

It’s video of what appears to be a police video unloading what appear to be bricks into an alley. Hard to make out, though.

One of the old street fighting tricks. You place bottles, rocks, bricks, etc along the route of the planned area of conflict.
No doubt the cops are laying those down so angry people have something to throw and then they can open up on them.
That’s my thought on this.

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ckkatz  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:51:57am

re: #611 Teukka

Heh! I like that list. Gonna steal it. :)

Reminds me of the ‘Three Laws of Mechanical Stuff’:

1. It works better when you plug it in.
2. It can’t fall off the floor.
3. When all else fails, read the manual.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:53:26am

re: #614 ckkatz

I’ve always assumed that it started when Bush the elder lost to Bill Clinton.

9/12/01 for me.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:54:07am

Years ago, back when I was working for an agency in L.A. that was doing internal affairs investigations of dirty cops (we were employed by various cities in SoCal, because the cities were tired of having the agencies whitewash brutality, and then having to pay $$ in court judgments), I had to have a meeting with the Customs & Border Patrol agents down in San Diego.

They were a wretched bunch.

My boss had warned me that they were guys who couldn’t get hired by any self-respecting police or sheriff’s department. Even the prison guards looked down on them.

Angry, menacing rednecks is the best descriptor I can make. Basically, the kinds of guys you run into drunk outside of a dirt-track race in smalltown America, where you just know they’re waiting for an opportunity to rat-pack someone. They’ll never fight even odds.

They are Trump’s people. I just paged this about how Trump is using them to crack heads in D.C., because they are the perfect dimwitted, racist brownshirt thugs he’s been looking for, and Stephen Miller has outfitted them with the very latest in combat-ready mass murder gear.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:54:08am

re: #610 Belafon

It started about 3 years ago.

I’d argue Appomattox was just a cease fire.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:54:36am
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Jay C  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:55:16am

re: #593 BeachDem

I’m moderately confused here: do the Archbishop’s comments mean that Trump (or his creatures) just decided to show up at the JP2 Shrine without (?)permission(?). Without asking/telling anyone?

I presume that a Church facility like this would be more-or-less open to the public, but someone would have to OK (or at least be advised of) a Presidential visit?

¿Que pasa?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:56:01am
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William Lewis  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:56:06am

re: #611 Teukka

Sanity break - Tech humor:

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Just don’t let the magic smoke out.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:56:41am
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Teukka  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:59:45am

re: #623 William Lewis

Just don’t let the magic smoke out.

Tangential aside: IBM at least had magic smoke refill bottles.

IBM Brand Magic Smoke Refill [Sauce]
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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2020 • 9:59:48am

re: #594 Belafon

What’s in the picture? We were having a debate the other night about bricks being in strange places, and mostly came to the conclusion that it was actually just real construction going on.

I’ve never lived in a city where you would leave bricks overnight if you expected to need them in the morning.

Lunch time.

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:00:05am

re: #622 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Not directly against the clergy, but instead doing the usual wingnut BS of suggesting that the person making such a statement is a “pawn.” That way, when confronted about their accusation, they can whine that they didn’t say that the person is a leftist, but instead is being “used” by leftists.

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danarchy  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:00:17am

re: #621 Jay C

I’m moderately confused here: do the Archbishop’s comments mean that Trump (or his creatures) just decided to show up at the JP2 Shrine without (?)permission(?). Without asking/telling anyone?

I presume that a Church facility like this would be more-or-less open to the public, but someone would have to OK (or at least be advised of) a Presidential visit?

¿Que pasa?

The JP2 shrine was failing fiscally and was bailed out by the Knights of Columbus and Pat Cipollone one of the presidents lawyers is one of the head honcho’s there.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:01:38am

re: #621 Jay C

I’m moderately confused here: do the Archbishop’s comments mean that Trump (or his creatures) just decided to show up at the JP2 Shrine without (?)permission(?). Without asking/telling anyone?

I presume that a Church facility like this would be more-or-less open to the public, but someone would have to OK (or at least be advised of) a Presidential visit?

¿Que pasa?

I popped over to CSPAN where they’re broadcasting the visit. Looks like some preparations were made that had to include people at the church. He and Melania are just walking around. Now they’re praying in front of the JP II statue. Doesn’t really look much better than what he did yesterday.

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BeachDem  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:01:47am

re: #621 Jay C

I’m moderately confused here: do the Archbishop’s comments mean that Trump (or his creatures) just decided to show up at the JP2 Shrine without (?)permission(?). Without asking/telling anyone?

I presume that a Church facility like this would be more-or-less open to the public, but someone would have to OK (or at least be advised of) a Presidential visit?

¿Que pasa?

Don’t know if this is true, but somebody explains it this way

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:03:58am

re: #629 Teddy’s Person

I popped over to CSPAN where they’re broadcasting the visit. Looks like some preparations were made that had to include people at the church. He and Melania are just walking around. Now they’re praying in front of the JP II statue. Doesn’t really look much better than what he did yesterday.

That he hasn’t burst into flames or been struck by lightening is reason enough to question the existence of “God.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:04:24am

re: #521 lawhawk

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But his polling wont budge in the presidential elections? Still with a ceiling and floor of around 40%. This is the insanity and disconnect with the GOP. They don’t care what Trump does, and he’ll continue to get their support no matter how much the economy crashes or how many die.

Reminder: some voting for Trump in 2016 thought of him as the lesser of two evils. There are still people out there who do not like him, but won’t support the “socialist anti-white pro-abortion” Democrat, and will continue to vote for him to prevent the “demon-rats” from gaining power.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:04:48am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:05:37am

re: #594 Belafon

What’s in the picture? We were having a debate the other night about bricks being in strange places, and mostly came to the conclusion that it was actually just real construction going on.

It looks like a couple of possible cops (in uniforms) taking bricks out of some kind of military vehicle (?? it’s big and black, it has the look, but the color is off to me) and just putting them on the top of the vehicles whateverthefuckitis, a fender, roof, who knows? That’s it. Or gives the impression like they’re going to just lay random bricks in Tacoma locations. This isn’t a skid of bricks, just a few, just enough for some damage, some pain.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:05:58am

You can witness the 3 minute photo op here at CSPAN

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:06:01am

One should also not discount that there are a lot of wingnuts who may disapprove of Trump’s handling of the unrest…because they think he should have had the 82nd Airborne deployed on Wednesday to start the crackdowns without bothering to seek approval from the governors.

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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:06:32am

re: #633 jaunte

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Translation: He’s waiting to see how it plays with the Faux crowd before he endorses it or not.

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William Lewis  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:08:06am

re: #617 Eclectic Cyborg

9/12/01 for me.

There have been times when I tell people that the First Republic died November 22, 1963. It’s just been the American equivalent of the Warring States Period since then.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:08:40am
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Teddy's Person  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:09:29am

An expanded photo of what Trump saw on the way to today’s photo op.

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makeitstop  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:10:43am

In other news….

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:10:45am

re: #548 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There is a silent majority and we are tired of Toddler Trump’s Twitter thousand a day tantrums.

The original definition of “silent majority” was a euphemism for the dead.

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William Lewis  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:10:52am

re: #633 jaunte

He has zoomed past Scott Walker to become the 2nd worst Wisconsinite in history. Only McCarthy remains for this Putin Puppet to surpass.

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garzooma  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:12:38am

re: #622 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Trump campaign senior legal adviser Jenna Ellis says that the Right Rev. Mariann Budde, who oversees St. John’s Episcopal Church, “is unfortunately a pawn of the leftist media that thrives on destruction of all that is moral and just.”

So, pretty much how Pontius Pilate saw Jesus.

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:12:41am

Westworld.

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Citizen K  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:12:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:14:43am

re: #645 jaunte

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Westworld.

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:14:50am

re: #619 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I’d argue Appomattox was just a cease fire.

The Civil War, like the Korean War that came later, was not ended. It was only suspended.

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lawhawk  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:15:12am
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Targetpractice  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:15:20am

re: #642 Hecuba’s daughter

The original definition of “silent majority” was a euphemism for the dead.

The more famous (and likely more relevant) usage of it was the invocation of the term by then-Pres Nixon in ‘69 when he was confident that the majority of Americans secretly supported the Vietnam War and were not supporting the increasingly outraged protests.

For those who weren’t around and may have missed that page in their history books, Nixon ultimately found out that no such “majority” existed.

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cat-tikvah  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:15:32am

re: #503 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Only if he’s giving away signed copies.

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Jay C  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:16:04am

re: #630 BeachDem

Don’t know if this is true, but somebody explains it this way

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So someone did a little research to provide the Orange Anus with a “friendly” venue for his photo-op (i.e. one that didn’t need to be cleared by a riot squad beforehand)?

Wonder if any Catholics (outside of the Archbishop) are going to be pissed at this? Not that Trump would care, I’m sure….

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stpaulbear  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:16:15am

re: #519 William Lewis

NPR on the Photo-Op

‘He Did Not Pray’: Fallout Grows From Trump’s Photo-Op At St. John’s Church

He didn’t realize until he was standing there in front of the camera with the bible and nothing to do that he forgot to bring people to lay hands on him while he posed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:16:41am

My brain automatically processed Roberts’ constituency as “R-Klan”.

And that basically tells you how I feel about most Republicans.

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BeachDem  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:17:27am

re: #633 jaunte

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PETER
You’ve got the wrong man lady.
I don’t know him,
And I wasn’t where he was tonight
Never near the place.
SOLDIER
That’s strange, for I am sure I saw you with with him.
You were right by his side, and yet you denied.
PETER
I tell you I was never with him.
OLD MAN
But I saw you too.
He looked just like you.
PETER
I don’t know him!

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:20:03am
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Teddy's Person  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:20:21am

More profiles in courage from the head hypocrite.

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:22:08am

re: #650 Targetpractice

[…]
For those who weren’t around and may have missed that page in their history books, Nixon ultimately found out that no such “majority” existed.

But this is a convenient trope either way: If the “slient majority” is large, then it’s large, and it’s more legitimate than the opposition. If the “silent majority” is small, too small to prevent Nixon’s resignation, then it’s been repressed by the oppositition, which is itself both immoral and unstoppable.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 2, 2020 • 10:26:53am

re: #456 The Pie Overlord!

Sending speedy recovery vibes and hugs!!!❤️


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