1 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 7:51:44pm

"Just a play on words. Just satire."

Rush has so lost it.

2 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 7:53:02pm

Just one more? You mean he's promised to quit now?

3 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 7:53:46pm

I know I say this every time, but:

I really, really, really can't see how anyone can defend him in the light of this.

4 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 7:54:50pm

You know that cvaller was a dirty lib just trying to bait El Rushbo, right?

Right?

5 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 7:54:56pm

re: #3 Obdicut

I know I say this every time, but:

I really, really, really can't see how anyone can defend him in the light of this.

Used to be you'd see someone show up here to do it in less than ten minutes. These days, no guarantee of that.

6 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 7:55:01pm

He thinks he's being funny. Sadder still, his ardent listeners agree.

7 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 7:55:56pm

re: #3 Obdicut

I know I say this every time, but:

I really, really, really can't see how anyone can defend him in the light of this.

everything that can be said, has been said and he's still raking in the dough...must be somebody isn't listening?

8 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 7:56:59pm

Well, at least he's not in danger of owning an NFL team anytime soon.

9 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 7:57:10pm

The difference between Limbaugh's wives and a crack whore is that the former demand payment up front.

10 SpaceJesus  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 7:58:36pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Well, at least he's not in danger of owning an NFL team anytime soon.

was about to say this

11 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 7:59:55pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Well, at least he's not in danger of owning an NFL team anytime soon.

that in itself was a glaring rebuttle for his insensitive rants....I know that had to hurt

12 avanti  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:00:51pm

I get that he's a racist, but I hate that enjoys it so.

13 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:02:03pm

Let's not let that low-life motherfucker's bilge turn our heads from the fact that Paterson is unfit for his office.

14 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:02:47pm

Yet another WTF? moment from blabber mouth Rush. Anyone else would get crucified in the press for that, but not King Rush, the media is scared of his lunatic fanbase apparently.

15 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:03:02pm

since Limbaugh sees the need to use racist terminology from the South, he earns My Standing Answer to Neo-Confederates:

16 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:03:10pm

re: #3 Obdicut

I know I say this every time, but:

I really, really, really can't see how anyone can defend him in the light of this.

Well, somebody will come along in this thread and do just that.

17 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:03:20pm

re: #13 MandyManners

Let's not let that low-life motherfucker's bilge turn our heads from the fact that Paterson is unfit for his office.

Entirely Concur.

18 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:03:25pm

I'm going to have a beer and listen to a very large man shout, "Engineer is credit to team."

19 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:03:58pm

re: #16 Walter L. Newton

Well, somebody will come along in this thread and do just that.

For that, I have charcoal. Denier Trolls are good eatin'.

20 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:04:21pm

re: #13 MandyManners

Let's not let that low-life motherfucker's bilge turn our heads from the fact that Paterson is unfit for his office.

Like your avatar is unfit for this blog?

21 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:04:33pm

re: #15 Dark_Falcon

Oh god, check out re: #228 SpaceJesus

It's terrible, but it's really funny at the same time.

22 Jadespring  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:04:34pm

Stewart is covering Massa and Beck.

23 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:05:05pm

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

Entirely Concur.

Let us not fall into that trap!

24 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:05:28pm

re: #22 Jadespring

Stewart is covering Massa and Beck.

In bed?

25 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:05:38pm

re: #23 MandyManners

Let us not fall into that trap!

Oh, the perspicacity!

26 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:06:15pm

re: #20 Cato the Elder

Like your avatar is unfit for this blog?

Cool it, Cato. We don't need to fight tonight. I'm too tired and I had a really bad day.

27 Kruk  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:06:51pm

re: #3 Obdicut

I know I say this every time, but:

I really, really, really can't see how anyone can defend him in the light of this.

I'm sure someone will. We had people defending the dipiction of the First Lady as a freaking chimpanzee.

28 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:07:53pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

Cool it, Cato. We don't need to fight tonight. I'm too tired and I had a really bad day.

Presumably, Mandy can handle herself. In bed.

(Did I say that out loud?)

29 avanti  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:08:01pm

re: #22 Jadespring

Stewart is covering Massa and Beck.

Brilliantly too.

30 Jadespring  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:09:05pm

re: #29 avanti

Brilliantly too.

I can't stop laughing.

What's wrong Beck. Are you sad? Does someone need a visit from the tickle monster?

31 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:09:21pm

re: #14 ausador

Yet another WTF? moment from blabber mouth Rush. Anyone else would get crucified in the press for that, but not King Rush, the media is scared of his lunatic fanbase apparently.

I think it's the wealth at his disposal that some might fear. Not just his own, but that of others that might kick in a the slightest hint of a lawsuit.

As far as anyone else being crucified, Imus' single comment proves your point.

32 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:09:29pm

Alright. I'm going to leave you for awhile with this rather tasteless but very funny video about George Washington. If you're offended by, well, offensive things, don't watch it.

If you're not, then it's hilarious.

This post inspired by SpaceJesus's dreams of a 1000 foot robotic Thomas Paine.

33 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:09:53pm

Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck... But that wasn't racist... No not at all, that was satire!

And No Rush is not a major leader of the GOP and he does not have a massive following of GOP listeners and for sure this is not more evidence that the GOP is racist.

All those GOP listeners of his get the satire. How could anyone say that they have to be racist to find that stuff funny?

Next time someone tells me that the GOP isn't racist, I shall bite them.

34 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:10:01pm

Insert [completely satirical] laugh track.
Image: CP&RAINE.jpg

35 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:10:28pm

By the way, today Mitt Romney got crossed off my very short list of potentially reasonable GOP politicians.

I'm completely finished with the Republican Party. Please don't call me a conservative any more -- the term has been hopelessly fouled by the religious right, and not a single GOP politician has the guts to stand up and say no to these throwbacks.

36 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:10:47pm

re: #27 Kruk

I'm sure someone will. We had people defending the dipiction of the First Lady as a freaking chimpanzee.

And there was that outrage over Dan Rather and his watermelon remark... of course he apologized for that...

""But anyone who knows me personally or knows my professional career would know that race was not on my mind," Rather said."

You certainly didn't have race on your mind, or else yo wouldn't have made the remark.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

37 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:10:56pm

re: #35 Charles

By the way, today Mitt Romney got crossed off my very short list of potentially reasonable GOP politicians.

I'm completely finished with the Republican Party. Please don't call me a conservative any more -- the term has been hopelessly fouled by the religious right, and not a single GOP politician has the guts to stand up and say no.

Amen!

38 Kruk  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:11:05pm

re: #15 Dark_Falcon

since Limbaugh sees the need to use racist terminology from the South, he earns My Standing Answer to Neo-Confederates:


[Video]

Or as one of our politicians so tactfully put it: "We won, you lost, eat that."

39 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:11:10pm

re: #35 Charles

What'd Mitt do?

40 avanti  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:11:19pm

re: #30 Jadespring

I can't stop laughing.

What's wrong Beck. Are you sad? Does someone need a visit from the tickle monster?

Beck's new sign off line.
"Sorry America, I wasted a hour of your time, see you tomorrow. "

41 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:12:54pm

re: #35 Charles

By the way, today Mitt Romney got crossed off my very short list of potentially reasonable GOP politicians.

I'm completely finished with the Republican Party. Please don't call me a conservative any more -- the term has been hopelessly fouled by the religious right, and not a single GOP politician has the guts to stand up and say no.

Up ding. Good riddance.

42 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:13:35pm

re: #20 Cato the Elder

Like your avatar is unfit for this blog?

You're crossing the line into obsession with this issue. Maybe I should change my avatar to the Piss Christ, so sensitive folks can cry offense and pound on me for a while.

43 Jadespring  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:13:45pm

re: #35 Charles

By the way, today Mitt Romney got crossed off my very short list of potentially reasonable GOP politicians.

I'm completely finished with the Republican Party. Please don't call me a conservative any more -- the term has been hopelessly fouled by the religious right, and not a single GOP politician has the guts to stand up and say no.

What did Romney do?

44 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:14:06pm

While we are at it, America is a Christian nation... All that stuff about separation of church and state meant they did not want America to become papist! Yeah that's it...

And of course we need not confuse the kids with going into that until they are old enough to accept that not everyone loves Jesus as much as real Americans do, without being led astray.

And remember folks... this is satire and Rush is not racist!

46 webevintage  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:16:00pm

re: #43 Jadespring

What did Romney do?


I think he said that he didn't really mean he was pro-choice when he said he was pro-choice when he ran for Gov.?
I'm just guessing....

47 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:16:13pm

I see nothing wrong with conservatism...talking heads pervert the idea, they pervert it for themselves, not for me

48 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:16:54pm

re: #33 LudwigVanQuixote

Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck... But that wasn't racist... No not at all, that was satire!

And No Rush is not a major leader of the GOP and he does not have a massive following of GOP listeners and for sure this is not more evidence that the GOP is racist.

All those GOP listeners of his get the satire. How could anyone say that they have to be racist to find that stuff funny?

Next time someone tells me that the GOP isn't racist, I shall bite them.

Ludwig, you know I'm on the level with you regarding AGW, so the following is simply something I'm bring to your attention for analysis:

After Climate-Gate, U.N. Submits to Independent Review

49 freetoken  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:17:00pm

re: #35 Charles

Mitt's been working the right wing real hard lately, but if the latest Iowa polls of GOP voters mean anything, it's not helping him there (they still like Huck.)

50 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:17:07pm

It's not that Romney did anything special today -- he praised Glenn Beck on some show, but that's the least offensive thing he's done recently. He's been appearing at every extreme religious right conference and shamelessly pandering to the groups that would like to see him burned at the stake for being a Mormon. He's a dyed in the wool phony.

51 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:17:43pm

re: #32 Obdicut

Alright. I'm going to leave you for awhile with this rather tasteless but very funny video about George Washington. If you're offended by, well, offensive things, don't watch it.

If you're not, then it's hilarious.

[Video]This post inspired by SpaceJesus's dreams of a 1000 foot robotic Thomas Paine.

Or maybe South Park's 12-story robot Abraham Lincoln.

52 jaunte  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:18:50pm

re: #46 webevintage

I think he said that he didn't really mean he was pro-choice when he said he was pro-choice when he ran for Gov.?
I'm just guessing...

Yes. he was on Imus today saying he was never pro-choice, but on tape in 1994 saying he was pro-choice.

53 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:19:03pm

re: #50 Charles

It's not that Romney did anything special today -- he praised Glenn Beck on some show, but that's the least offensive things he's done. He's been appearing at every extreme religious right conference and shamelessly pandering to the groups that would like to see him burned at the stake for being a Mormon. He's a dyed in the wool phony.

he's a dyed in the wool politician too...another party good old boy hustling votes

54 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:20:46pm

re: #43 Jadespring

I'm guessing it's Tea Party pandering: Mitt Romney: Tea Party movement is great as long as they vote Republican
Nobody's willing to advance a realistic and practical conservative version of the Republican party. Appeasing the Tea Party nuts is a dead end. Even if you get them to vote Republican they're going to be really pissed when elected officials have to deal with the real world. There's no way to win with them on board.

55 Kruk  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:21:44pm

re: #45 MandyManners

Earlier today, I posted a link to the indictment against Colleen R. LaRose,a/k/a Jihad Jane.

I know I shouldn't, but I've been taking a certain pleasure in the fact this person is white and blonde. I'm going to be linking to her picture every time someone calls for "religious" profiling at airports.

56 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:21:49pm

re: #44 LudwigVanQuixote

And remember folks... this is satire and Rush is not racist!

I'm not the biggest Rush fan, but I severely enjoy "2112". I've heard from some people who were directly involved that Rush (the band AND crew) very directly treated the then-newbie Joan Jett's band like shit when JJ opened for Rush back a million years ago, but I still never thought of Rush as racists. Can Canadians be racist?


{/}

57 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:21:54pm

re: #50 Charles

It's not that Romney did anything special today -- he praised Glenn Beck on some show, but that's the least offensive thing he's done recently. He's been appearing at every extreme religious right conference and shamelessly pandering to the groups that would like to see him burned at the stake for being a Mormon. He's a dyed in the wool phony.

I'm afraid Rudy falls into the same category. Not much left in the Republican party for me.

58 freetoken  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:23:08pm

Unlikely to be welcome at a Mississippi prom:

Half male, half female chicken.

59 Jadespring  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:23:18pm

re: #56 negativ

I'm not the biggest Rush fan, but I severely enjoy "2112". I've heard from some people who were directly involved that Rush (the band AND crew) very directly treated the then-newbie Joan Jett's band like shit when JJ opened for Rush back a million years ago, but I still never thought of Rush as racists. Can Canadians be racist?

{/}

We sure can!

60 prairiefire  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:23:44pm

It's like watching a zeppelin full of bile, bumping into buildings. I wonder when he will really knock one over?

61 jaunte  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:23:55pm

re: #58 freetoken

It's hard to rent tuxes in that size.

62 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:25:15pm

re: #58 freetoken

Unlikely to be welcome at a Mississippi prom:

Half male, half female chicken.

Freaky!

63 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:25:41pm

re: #54 Killgore Trout

I'm guessing it's Tea Party pandering: Mitt Romney: Tea Party movement is great as long as they vote Republican
Nobody's willing to advance a realistic and practical conservative version of the Republican party. Appeasing the Tea Party nuts is a dead end. Even if you get them to vote Republican they're going to be really pissed when elected officials have to deal with the real world. There's no way to win with them on board.

A perfect case in point.

Romney did an interview with Newsmax - the so-called media site that published an article calling for a military coup in the US, and has columnists like Pamela Geller and other conspiracy theorizing insane people.

There don't seem to be any consequences at all for this kind of crap in American politics.

64 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:25:48pm

re: #59 Jadespring

It's just that I have a hard time envisioning Canadians stringing up someone on their garage door opener.

65 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:25:54pm

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

You're crossing the line into obsession with this issue. Maybe I should change my avatar to the Piss Christ, so sensitive folks can cry offense and pound on me for a while.

Maybe you should. I'd like to see how long that would last.

66 Virginia Plain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:26:34pm

What can you expect from someone who is as thick as a brick

67 webevintage  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:26:42pm

re: #56 negativ

Can Canadians be racist?

{/}

"There is no Canada like French Canada, it's ze best Canada in ze land and the other Canada is hardly Canada, if you've lived there for a day you'd understand.
There is no Canada like French Canada, it's ze best Canada in ze land and the other Canada is a booched Canada, if you've lived there for a day you'd understand"

Does that count?

68 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:27:17pm

re: #62 talon_262

Freaky!

Hey, don't knock it till you've tried it.

69 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:27:54pm

re: #60 prairiefire

Well, it's like that old saying goes...

It's easier for a gift horse to pass through the eye of a hurricane, than for a wealthy man to enter the valley the blind.
:P

70 Girth  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:28:00pm

re: #51 Alouette

Or maybe South Park's 12-story robot Abraham Lincoln.

I have a darker sense of humor than most, I know, but I f'in love that one.

How do you stop a giant Lincoln statue? A giant John Wilkes Boothe?

Outstanding.

Also the Margaritaville episode from last year was on tonight, it's about the economy and ties in Kyle as a Christ-figure. Pure genius.

71 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:28:36pm

Heh. Someone just told my I look like Harry Potter with my new glasses.

In all honesty I probably look more like a bearded Mr. Potter from "It's A Wonderful Life".

"Why, George, you're worth more dead than alive!"

Bwahahahahaha.

72 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:28:40pm

re: #68 negativ

Hey, don't knock it till you've tried it.

I wonder how that chicken tastes...

/once you go half male, half female, you never go back ;-P

73 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:29:27pm

re: #43 Jadespring

What did Romney do?

Was it this? Or this? What's the deal-breaker?

74 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:29:30pm

re: #66 Virginia Plain

What can you expect from someone who is as thick as a brick

Gawd I love that song.

75 Jadespring  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:30:05pm

re: #64 negativ

It's just that I have a hard time envisioning Canadians stringing up someone on their garage door opener.

I'm glad that's hard to envision.

76 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:30:46pm

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

You're crossing the line into obsession with this issue. Maybe I should change my avatar to the Piss Christ, so sensitive folks can cry offense and pound on me for a while.

I know a phrenologist; I could probably arrange a cursory examination free of charge.

77 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:30:59pm

re: #67 webevintage

"There is no Canada like French Canada, it's ze best Canada in ze land and the other Canada is hardly Canada, if you've lived there for a day you'd understand.
There is no Canada like French Canada, it's ze best Canada in ze land and the other Canada is a booched Canada, if you've lived there for a day you'd understand"

Does that count?

Ze ozher Canada is a bullshit Canada

FTFY

78 Virginia Plain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:31:03pm

Don't want to be an American Idiot like Limbaugh

79 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:31:05pm

re: #67 webevintage

"There is no Canada like French Canada, it's ze best Canada in ze land and the other Canada is hardly Canada, if you've lived there for a day you'd understand.
There is no Canada like French Canada, it's ze best Canada in ze land and the other Canada is a booched Canada, if you've lived there for a day you'd understand"

Does that count?

Upding for the South Park reference.

80 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:31:05pm

re: #65 Cato the Elder

Maybe you should. I'd like to see how long that would last.

Could I expect the same level of obsession from you over it? If not, it just wouldn't be worth it.

81 prairiefire  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:31:20pm

re: #69 Slumbering Behemoth

Did I make that much sense?/ Time for bed. Thanks for the Tull, Virginia.

82 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:31:56pm

re: #78 Virginia Plain

Don't want to be an American Idiot like Limbaugh


[Video]

Good choice. Green Day is pretty awesome.

83 Jadespring  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:31:58pm

re: #67 webevintage

"There is no Canada like French Canada, it's ze best Canada in ze land and the other Canada is hardly Canada, if you've lived there for a day you'd understand.
There is no Canada like French Canada, it's ze best Canada in ze land and the other Canada is a booched Canada, if you've lived there for a day you'd understand"

Does that count?

What? That's just bad and so wrong. :D LOL

84 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:32:03pm

re: #55 Kruk

I know I shouldn't, but I've been taking a certain pleasure in the fact this person is white and blonde. I'm going to be linking to her picture every time someone calls for "religious" profiling at airports.

So, what do the jihadists have in common with each other, then?

85 prairiefire  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:32:19pm

re: #78 Virginia Plain

One last thing, my 12 year old is now a Green Day fan. I'm so proud of her, sniff.

86 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:32:23pm

re: #80 Slumbering Behemoth

Could I expect the same level of obsession from you over it? If not, it just wouldn't be worth it.

Yes, you could. I hate religious bigotry to the marrow of my bones.

87 Racer X  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:32:26pm

re: #72 talon_262

I wonder how that chicken tastes...

/once you go half male, half female, you never go back ;-P

The breast was OK. I did not care for the nuggets.

88 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:32:38pm

re: #81 prairiefire

Nah, my post was just a callback to the mangled metaphor thread from the other day.

89 Jadespring  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:32:43pm

re: #83 Jadespring

I mean bad in writing the accent.

90 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:32:47pm

re: #84 The Sanity Inspector

So, what do the jihadists have in common with each other, then?

They're all Mormons!

/

91 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:33:22pm

I would suggest to Limbaugh that he attend Racists Anonymous. Except it's too late for the anonymity part.

92 Kruk  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:33:28pm

re: #56 negativ

I'm not the biggest Rush fan, but I severely enjoy "2112". I've heard from some people who were directly involved that Rush (the band AND crew) very directly treated the then-newbie Joan Jett's band like shit when JJ opened for Rush back a million years ago, but I still never thought of Rush as racists. Can Canadians be racist?

{/}

Slightly off topic, but the wife made me sit down and watch "The Proposal" the other week. One of (many) grating moments in the film was when the "heroine" exclaims "It's not like I'm an immigrant. I'm.....Canadian!" The way it was delievered was obviously a set up for a laugh, but I couldn't hear it over the grinding of my teeth. That's one of at least three moments in the film that absolutely reeks of white privilege. It's the same privilege that evey other numbnut who is "brave" or "witty" enough to be "politically incorrect" depends on to excuse their bigotry.

93 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:34:10pm

re: #73 The Sanity Inspector

Was it this? Or this? What's the deal-breaker?

Those were both among the final straws.

94 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:35:03pm

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

You're crossing the line into obsession with this issue. Maybe I should change my avatar to the Piss Christ, so sensitive folks can cry offense and pound on me for a while.

False equivalence, Andres Serrano's photograph is actually an original and beautiful piece of work, not a poorly executed rip-off of two beautiful constructs designed to enlighten humanity (Watterson's Calvin and )

But by all means, continue to defend the hypocritical.

95 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:35:04pm
96 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:35:46pm

Al Franken was right.

97 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:35:50pm

re: #92 Kruk

Slightly off topic, but the wife made me sit down and watch "The Proposal" the other week. One of (many) grating moments in the film was when the "heroine" exclaims "It's not like I'm an immigrant. I'm...Canadian!" The way it was delievered was obviously a set up for a laugh, but I couldn't hear it over the grinding of my teeth. That's one of at least three moments in the film that absolutely reeks of white privilege. It's the same privilege that evey other numbnut who is "brave" or "witty" enough to be "politically incorrect" depends on to excuse their bigotry.

That was also the premise in the movie "Knocked Up" in which the girl has a one night stand with an unemployed, drunk illegal alien. But the illegal alien part is supposed to be funny because he's Canadian.

98 Racer X  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:36:43pm

The World Is A Ghetto - DJ Shadow

Comments say this was a group of teenage amateurs.

I'm impress.

99 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:37:31pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

False equivalence, Andres Serrano's photograph is actually an original and beautiful piece of work, not a poorly executed rip-off of two beautiful constructs designed to enlighten humanity (Watterson's Calvin and )

But by all means, continue to defend the hypocritical.

Sorry, downding for supporting that asshole Serrano. His work was intended to offend, and in my mind any technical merits of the photos are outweighed by the asshole factor of it.

100 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:38:47pm
101 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:39:49pm

re: #100 MandyManners

Been drinking? You're posting double.

102 TedStriker  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:40:00pm

re: #87 Racer X

The breast was OK. I did not care for the nuggets.

LAWL!!!

103 Kruk  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:41:26pm

re: #84 The Sanity Inspector

So, what do the jihadists have in common with each other, then?

Nothing that can be picked up by a cursory visual inspection. And since people don't list their religion on their travel documents (and nor should they), cases like this one make it impossible to argue that some demographics of travellers can be reliably pulled aside for extra screening, while the "low risk" demographics can be allowed to go about their businesss without being "inconvenienced".

Or to put it another way: Yes, you need to screen the white folks too.

104 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:41:29pm

re: #101 Cato the Elder

Been drinking? You're posting double.

two shows each night!

105 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:41:38pm

re: #86 Cato the Elder

Yes, you could. I hate religious bigotry to the marrow of my bones.

Art/Commentary/Bigotry. All the same? A Piss Allah or Piss Christ is not bigotry in my book. They're just images that cause overly sensitive zealots to wet themselves.

Hey, at least you're not threatening to kill anyone over it. That puts you miles above a certain group of easily offended crybabies.

106 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:41:44pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, downding for supporting that asshole Serrano. His work was intended to offend, and in my mind any technical merits of the photos are outweighed by the asshole factor of it.

Intending to offend doesn't mean it isn't art, though! Manet intended to offend. The Fauves intended to offend. Francis Bacon intended to offend.

107 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:42:32pm

re: #106 WindUpBird

Intending to offend doesn't mean it isn't art, though! Manet intended to offend. The Fauves intended to offend. Francis Bacon intended to offend.

"MMmmmmmm,,, Bacon ,,"

//Homer Simpson (I think!!)

108 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:43:06pm
109 Racer X  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:43:42pm

More from Schoolhouse Funk

Dj Shadow - Cisco Kid

110 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:43:58pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

I do not defend the hypocritical. I simply tweek the noses of those who are easily offended.

111 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:44:08pm

re: #106 WindUpBird

Intending to offend doesn't mean it isn't art, though! Manet intended to offend. The Fauves intended to offend. Francis Bacon intended to offend.

Don't leave out Tunick when you're talking about intention to offend.

112 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:44:47pm

We must not indulge in unfavourable views of mankind, since by doing it we make bad men believe that they are no worse than others, and we teach the good that they are good in vain.
-- Walter Savage Landor, 1820s

113 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:44:49pm

re: #36 Walter L. Newton

And there was that outrage over Dan Rather and his watermelon remark... of course he apologized for that...

""But anyone who knows me personally or knows my professional career would know that race was not on my mind," Rather said."

You certainly didn't have race on your mind, or else yo wouldn't have made the remark.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Did we have someone defending the watermelon remark?

On second thought, don't tell me if we did.

114 darthstar  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:45:18pm

Oy....That Rush. Some day, one of his fans is going to turn on him, and it's not going to be pretty.

115 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:45:24pm

re: #107 sattv4u2

"MMmmm,,, Bacon ,,"

//Homer Simpson (I think!!)

Makes a damn fine sandwich

116 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:46:04pm

re: #106 WindUpBird

Intending to offend doesn't mean it isn't art, though! Manet intended to offend. The Fauves intended to offend. Francis Bacon intended to offend.

True, but I still don't like it. I don't like people who set out to be offensive. Whatever their skills, such people tend to be assholes and more than one such person has derived sadistic pleasure from tormenting me personally. That asshole aspect is something I cannot get past.

117 Racer X  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:46:10pm

re: #110 Slumbering Behemoth

I do not defend the hypocritical. I simply tweek the noses of those who are easily offended.

Nothing wrong with that.

118 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:46:39pm

re: #109 Racer X

More from Schoolhouse Funk

Dj Shadow - Cisco Kid


[Video]

the real Cisco Kid

119 darthstar  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:46:47pm

re: #108 MandyManners

Yousef speaks the truth.

Yousef is turning into a wingnut. It's the same god you worship, Mandy. Fuck.

120 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:46:53pm

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

True, but I still don't like it. I don't like people who set out to be offensive. Whatever their skills, such people tend to be assholes and more than one such person has derived sadistic pleasure from tormenting me personally. That asshole aspect is something I cannot get past.

An attention queen with talent is still an attention queen.

121 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:47:09pm

re: #111 Alouette

Don't leave out Tunick when you're talking about intention to offend.

That guy! Awesome :D I had to google him, i didn't know his name but I knew the work.

There's artists I love I'm afraid to even mention here :D

122 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:47:23pm

re: #109 Racer X

DJ Shadow is the shit.

123 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:47:39pm

re: #119 darthstar

Yousef is turning into a wingnut. It's the same god you worship, Mandy. Fuck.

I just wish he would shut the fuck up already. There are people who want to fucking murder him.

124 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:47:48pm

re: #113 SanFranciscoZionist

Did we have someone defending the watermelon remark?

On second thought, don't tell me if we did.

I was about to remark that he's older than Donald Duck, and thus may be given some slack on that score. But, guess I won't!

125 Virginia Plain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:47:57pm

Where do you go to my lovely...

126 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:48:45pm

re: #111 Alouette

Don't leave out Tunick when you're talking about intention to offend.

True. Though Giuliani and the NYPD were able to stop him from taking his photos in New York through enforcement of the law.

127 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:48:47pm

re: #84 The Sanity Inspector

So, what do the jihadists have in common with each other, then?

Intent to kill.

BTW, who the hell calls herself "Jihad Jane"? Just by looking at that you can tell you're dealing with someone who doesn't quite get the concept.

128 Virginia Plain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:49:36pm

re: #127 SanFranciscoZionist

Intent to kill.

BTW, who the hell calls herself "Jihad Jane"? Just by looking at that you can tell you're dealing with someone who doesn't quite get the concept.

She looks like a ditz. I don't know if that's just me, but she looks like a freaking airhead.

129 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:49:37pm

re: #120 Alouette

An attention queen with talent is still an attention queen.

so true
2pts

130 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:49:42pm

re: #117 Racer X

Nothing wrong with that.

Blocked for content, and I do not have a Youtube account.

131 darthstar  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:50:28pm

re: #127 SanFranciscoZionist

Intent to kill.

BTW, who the hell calls herself "Jihad Jane"? Just by looking at that you can tell you're dealing with someone who doesn't quite get the concept.

Wasn't that a movie with Bruce Willis' ex-wife?

132 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:50:30pm

re: #108 MandyManners

Yousef speaks the truth.

""The problem is not in Muslims," he continues. "The problem is with their God."

Wow crazy. When a guy starts saying things like this, he's in full-on mumbo-jumbo nutbag land. Or maybe heady with the buzz of the newly converted, leaping from one tribe to another, to point fingers at the old tribe. Happens all the time, it's human nature.

133 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:50:45pm

re: #97 Alouette

That was also the premise in the movie "Knocked Up" in which the girl has a one night stand with an unemployed, drunk illegal alien. But the illegal alien part is supposed to be funny because he's Canadian.

My husband used to work with an illegal alien from Canada. They found out he was in the country illegally when HR called up to ask that he give them his Social Security # again, because the last one indicated that he was dead.

He just took off. For New Orleans, he said.

134 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:50:52pm

re: #130 Slumbering Behemoth

Blocked for content, and I do not have a Youtube account.

Sign in with your google account, if you have one.

135 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:51:35pm

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

Sometimes, offensive art can be provocative. Of thought or discussion. I don't have a problem with most of it.

136 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:52:10pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, downding for supporting that asshole Serrano. His work was intended to offend, and in my mind any technical merits of the photos are outweighed by the asshole factor of it.

While I am a technical photographer, the artwork itself is successful because it generated a strong reaction based on nothing but Andres' word that the plastic crucifix in the photograph was suspended in his own urine. The shot itself is quite pleasing if you either don't read or can move past the title. On the other hand Mandy's avatar is a crude imitation of another crude imitation. Almost a non-thought. Sure, it gets a reaction, but it is neither clever nor original. Honestly it comes off as a cheap and poorly executed form of self-mockery, considering her own hypocritical rabid intolerance of perceived anti-christian slights. Cato thinks it brings the blog down, I disagree but still think it's both lame and pretty hilarious coming from her.

137 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:53:05pm

re: #119 darthstar

Yousef is turning into a wingnut. It's the same god you worship, Mandy. Fuck.

From a strictly secular perspective:

The ancient god of the Jews, later to be adopted/stolen by the heretical sect known as Christians, was a mountain god I think. Whereas the single deity acknowledged by the Muslims was supposedly a moon god. Now, I vaguely recall reading that the mountain god was ancestral but I don't know if the same can be said of the moon god. So, in that regard, the two deities are different.If we're gonna split hairs.

138 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:53:56pm

re: #103 Kruk

Nothing that can be picked up by a cursory visual inspection. And since people don't list their religion on their travel documents (and nor should they), cases like this one make it impossible to argue that some demographics of travellers can be reliably pulled aside for extra screening, while the "low risk" demographics can be allowed to go about their businesss without being "inconvenienced".

Or to put it another way: Yes, you need to screen the white folks too.

Dance, gringo; dance!

139 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:53:57pm

re: #135 Slumbering Behemoth

Sometimes, offensive art can be provocative. Of thought or discussion. I don't have a problem with most of it.

This is one of those cases where I would not want my views to become law. Too many run-ins with the assholes side of such people has left me unable to look past that side. Sorry, but this is one of the very few topics where my wounds have closed my mind.

140 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:54:33pm

re: #119 darthstar

Yousef is turning into a wingnut. It's the same god you worship, Mandy. Fuck.

Gotta go with that, although I can see how if you were raised by Hamas you might come out of it with a bit of a grudge against Islam.

It's no more genuinely insightful, though, than the kid who's beaten by fundamentalist parents, and decides Christianity is the source of all that is evil.

I'm glad he has a faith that's a comfort to him though. This guy lives out on the edge where the cold wind blows. He needs God if anyone does.

141 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:54:55pm

re: #105 Slumbering Behemoth

Art/Commentary/Bigotry. All the same? A Piss Allah or Piss Christ is not bigotry in my book. They're just images that cause overly sensitive zealots to wet themselves.

Hey, at least you're not threatening to kill anyone over it. That puts you miles above a certain group of easily offended crybabies.

I'm an overly sensitive zealot?

I happen to like this place, and feel protective of LGF's image. When I see something that could be used to tar it with the bigot brush, I make an issue of it.

But, just for you, Sleeping Rhinoceros, I recuse myself from further comment on the subject. For tonight.

142 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:55:38pm

re: #133 SanFranciscoZionist

My husband used to work with an illegal alien from Canada. They found out he was in the country illegally when HR called up to ask that he give them his Social Security # again, because the last one indicated that he was dead.

He just took off. For New Orleans, he said.

Yes, they can "pass" more easily than Mexicans, and they take jobs that Americans want to do.

/

143 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:55:47pm

re: #128 Virginia Plain

She looks like a ditz. I don't know if that's just me, but she looks like a freaking airhead.

I simply don't know what I'm looking at here. She makes no sense to me.

144 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:55:52pm

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

True, but I still don't like it. I don't like people who set out to be offensive. Whatever their skills, such people tend to be assholes and more than one such person has derived sadistic pleasure from tormenting me personally. That asshole aspect is something I cannot get past.

Well, there's people who want to do NOTHING but offend with their work, and there's people whose art offends intentionally as a matter of course, but it's because they feel the message is valid and being offensive is sort of the thing they have to do to get it out there. Manet didn't JUST want to offend. Bacon didn't JUST want to offend. They wanted to upset convention. And that requires offending people. But they had things they had to say that they felt passionately about it, and they intended to scandalize and be controversial. But it's not the only note they played. Banksy offends and vandalizes, but he also makes people think about their world.

145 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:55:54pm

re: #132 WindUpBird

Hey butthead! Why didn't you tell me High On Fire was coming out with a new album? I would have started saving my beer cans up months ago!

146 jaunte  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:55:59pm

re: #140 SanFranciscoZionist

Mr. Yousef tells me that he was horrified by the pointless violence unleashed by politicians willing to climb "on the shoulders of poor, religious people."

That sounded real.

147 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:56:54pm

For me one of the worst examples of this was Limbaugh's dismissal of Colin Powell's endorsement of Obama. "It's all about race" was Limbaugh's "insight."

Not only was he saying that Powell had no legitimate reason to support O; he also tries to turn America's greatest living war hero into a simple-minded "black racist" who reflexively supports his own.

148 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:57:22pm

re: #145 Slumbering Behemoth

Hey butthead! Why didn't you tell me High On Fire was coming out with a new album? I would have started saving my beer cans up months ago!

Buh! I don't have it yet! I was dimly aware it was coming out but I've been too busy to think about much else but work. :P

149 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:57:39pm

re: #134 The Sanity Inspector

Sign in with your google account, if you have one.

I don't have one of those either. I am no Luddite, but I keep my internet footprint very tiny, for obvious reasons.

/like, I can't remember that many nics and passwords

150 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:58:23pm

re: #143 SanFranciscoZionist

I simply don't know what I'm looking at here. She makes no sense to me.

Someone who has found purpose and focus in the call of The Jihad. Like all jihadists, she has her reasons. But they are the jihadists' reasons, not ours.

151 Racer X  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:58:40pm
152 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:58:54pm

nitey nite, Lizardia!

153 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:59:37pm

re: #119 darthstar

Yousef is turning into a wingnut. It's the same god you worship, Mandy. Fuck.

Mandy doesn't worship God, she worships the image of herself worshipping God, of whom she has only the paltriest conception. And not an immaculate one.

154 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:00:01pm

re: #147 palomino

For me one of the worst examples of this was Limbaugh's dismissal of Colin Powell's endorsement of Obama. "It's all about race" was Limbaugh's "insight."

Not only was he saying that Powell had no legitimate reason to support O; he also tries to turn America's greatest living war hero into a simple-minded "black racist" who reflexively supports his own.

generals are not war heros in my opinion, and I doubt Powell would consider himself one....he never served under fire that I know of

155 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:00:54pm

re: #137 eclectic infidel

From a strictly secular perspective:

The ancient god of the Jews, later to be adopted/stolen by the heretical sect known as Christians, was a mountain god I think. Whereas the single deity acknowledged by the Muslims was supposedly a moon god. Now, I vaguely recall reading that the mountain god was ancestral but I don't know if the same can be said of the moon god. So, in that regard, the two deities are different.If we're gonna split hairs.

Eh, once you get to monotheism, there you are.

El, Elohim, Allah, basically this guy's job title is just "God", and we're all gonna have to deal with it.

156 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:01:15pm

re: #144 WindUpBird

Well, there's people who want to do NOTHING but offend with their work, and there's people whose art offends intentionally as a matter of course, but it's because they feel the message is valid and being offensive is sort of the thing they have to do to get it out there easier and quicker than actually working to develop any actual frickin' talent and craft. Manet didn't JUST want to offend. Bacon didn't JUST want to offend. They wanted to upset convention. And that requires offending people. But they had things they had to say that they felt passionately about it, and they intended to scandalize and be controversial. But it's not the only note they played. Banksy offends and vandalizes, but he also makes people think about their world.

FTFY. Hope those oh-so-edgy pants droppers are eating well on their NEA grants during this recession.

157 Kruk  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:01:17pm

re: #149 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't have one of those either. I am no Luddite, but I keep my internet footprint very tiny, for obvious reasons.

/like, I can't remember that many nics and passwords

Heh. I set up a home netwok, and had it encrypted and password protected. All the computers/devices we had were set to log in automatically. Then last week we bought a new laptop, and I couldn't for the life of me remember the password. I spent a whole weekend typing in every combination I might have used before I finally got it.

158 darthstar  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:01:58pm

Criminal Minds is on....nite all

159 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:02:00pm

re: #151 Racer X

Wacky Races - Intro


[Video]

That still airs on Boomerang and every now and then I still watch.

160 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:02:44pm

*sigh*... Damn you, Morpheus... 'Night.

I'd rather be spooning.

161 SteveC  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:02:47pm

re: #158 darthstar

Criminal Minds is on...nite all

The butler did it!

//Wait - wrong episode!

162 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:02:53pm

re: #154 albusteve

generals are not war heros in my opinion, and I doubt Powell would consider himself one...he never served under fire that I know of

Some generals have been war heroes. Grant served under fire, as did MacArthur.

163 Kruk  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:03:29pm

re: #158 darthstar

Criminal Minds is on...nite all

Heh. Just had to upding that. One of my favorite shows, theough my wife can't figure out why I keep calling the lead investigator "Greg".

164 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:04:00pm

re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist

Eh, once you get to monotheism, there you are.

El, Elohim, Allah, basically this guy's job title is just "God", and we're all gonna have to deal with it.

I try to ignore the whole silly notion, but when somebody tries to say they know the names and the designs and the purpose of their god, I have me a good old chuckle....the whole idea is presumption, so why bother bickering over names?

165 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:04:12pm

re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist

Eh, once you get to monotheism, there you are.

El, Elohim, Allah, basically this guy's job title is just "God", and we're all gonna have to deal with it.

Deal with the zealots, anyway.

On another note, how are you since last we spoke?

166 Racer X  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:04:58pm

F-16 Night VFR Aspen CO Landing

Holee Carp!

Night vision on the left - naked eye on the right. If you've ever flown in to Aspen you know this is fun in broad daylight.

167 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:05:08pm

re: #154 albusteve

Washington, Patton, Eisenhower, MacArthur, Grant, et al. not war heroes? Historians would find that an interesting bit of revisionism.

If they aren't heroes, what are they? And why have we named so many monuments for these non-heroes?

168 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:05:30pm

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

Some generals have been war heroes. Grant served under fire, as did MacArthur.

right, poor words...so then Powell is no hero

169 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:06:13pm

re: #165 eclectic infidel

Deal with the zealots, anyway.

On another note, how are you since last we spoke?

Good enough. I had a horrific cold, but am basically over it.

Yourself?

170 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:06:18pm

re: #167 palomino

Washington, Patton, Eisenhower, MacArthur, Grant, et al. not war heroes? Historians would find that an interesting bit of revisionism.

If they aren't heroes, what are they? And why have we named so many monuments for these non-heroes?

they are not heros because they are generals, to clarify

171 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:07:09pm

re: #141 Cato the Elder

Pardon me; I got it wrong. Biblical scholars agree that "Behemoth" was meant to describe, not the rhino, but the Horse of the Nile, Hippopotamus.

Of course, the creationists have their own take:

172 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:07:14pm

re: #141 Cato the Elder

I happen to like this place, and feel protective of LGF's image. When I see something that could be used to tar it with the bigot brush, I make an issue of it.

You know as well as anyone here that only registered users could see that image, and only see it well enough to identify it if they clicked on the avatar itself.


But, just for you, Sleeping Rhinoceros, I recuse myself from further comment on the subject. For tonight.

Please, by all means, continue to bitch about it. I will continue to call it bitching when I hear a bitching.

173 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:07:15pm

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

Some generals have been war heroes. Grant served under fire, as did MacArthur.

Even if they didn't serve under fire, their actions in leading troops, formulating/executing battle plans, and saving America from Nazis, Japanese, Confederates, whatever, certainly qualify definitionally and culturally as heroic.

174 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:07:32pm

re: #170 albusteve

they are not heros simply because they are generals, to clarify

edited for clarity. Please excuse any arrogant presumption.

175 avanti  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:08:24pm

re: #153 Cato the Elder

Mandy doesn't worship God, she worships the image of herself worshipping God, of whom she has only the paltriest conception. And not an immaculate one.

At some point we have to drop this subject. Mandy knows what her avatar represents, and does not care how offensive it is to some, so we are just spinning our wheels.

176 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:08:57pm

re: #171 Cato the Elder

Pardon me; I got it wrong. Biblical scholars agree that "Behemoth" was meant to describe, not the rhino, but the Horse of the Nile, Hippopotamus.

Of course, the creationists have their own take:


[Video]

I thought they were referring to the Crocoduck.

177 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:09:24pm

re: #172 Slumbering Behemoth

You know as well as anyone here that only registered users could see that image, and only see it well enough to identify it if they clicked on the avatar itself.

Right. We have no stalkers, socks, or infiltraitors among the registered users. Carry on.

178 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:10:03pm

re: #170 albusteve

they are not heros because they are generals, to clarify

Generals can't be heroes? Where do you come up with this?

Washington was certainly viewed as the hero of the FIRST American Revolution. And those ticker tape parades for the returning Generals at the end of WWII? I guess we'd better let today's octogenarians know that these guys they admired so much weren't really heroes.

179 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:11:36pm

re: #175 avanti

At some point we have to drop this subject. Mandy knows what her avatar represents, and does not care how offensive it is to some, so we are just spinning our wheels.

You're free to drop it. I'm free to obsess. Think of that what you will.

180 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:11:47pm

re: #173 palomino

Even if they didn't serve under fire, their actions in leading troops, formulating/executing battle plans, and saving America from Nazis, Japanese, Confederates, whatever, certainly qualify definitionally and culturally as heroic.

I disagree...to me a hero is someone who disregards their own safety....possibly forfeit their own life for others...but I dilute the term once in a while myself...my mom built Liberators for three yeas but I don't consider the effort heroic

181 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:11:52pm

re: #171 Cato the Elder

Gah! Speaking of the Book of Job...

182 [deleted]  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:11:56pm
183 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:12:21pm

Limbaugh's MO is to make old white racists feel like they've got nothing to be ashamed of. After all, in Limbaugh's vision of America the true racists today are blacks.

184 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:12:33pm

re: #178 palomino

Generals can't be heroes? Where do you come up with this?

Washington was certainly viewed as the hero of the FIRST American Revolution. And those ticker tape parades for the returning Generals at the end of WWII? I guess we'd better let today's octogenarians know that these guys they admired so much weren't really heroes.

not what I said did I?

185 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:13:17pm

re: #174 Dark_Falcon

edited for clarity. Please excuse any arrogant presumption.

I know you...no problem

186 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:13:44pm

re: #175 avanti

At some point we have to drop this subject. Mandy knows what her avatar represents, and does not care how offensive it is to some, so we are just spinning our wheels.

If she does decide to replace her avatar, I hope it is with a simple text block that states "It's gone. Now what, bitches?"
/wishful thinking

187 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:14:09pm

re: #175 avanti

At some point we have to drop this subject. Mandy knows what her avatar represents, and does not care how offensive it is to some, so we are just spinning our wheels.

we?...Cato is in the ditch, not 'we'

188 Four More Tears  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:14:35pm

re: #171 Cato the Elder

Pardon me; I got it wrong. Biblical scholars agree that "Behemoth" was meant to describe, not the rhino, but the Horse of the Nile, Hippopotamus.

Of course, the creationists have their own take:


[Video]

THAT WAS FREAKIN' AWESOME!!!11!

Take that science!

189 Kruk  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:15:14pm

Going to log now, all. Stay scaly.

190 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:15:39pm

re: #169 SanFranciscoZionist

Good enough. I had a horrific cold, but am basically over it.

Yourself?

I am doing well, all things considered. A long-term contract with the potential to go permanent went south in late January. Despite that I'm enjoying this break, I just hope it doesn't last too long. I am considering going back to school and am looking into radiology and sonography for possible long-term career goals.

I'm looking forward to this weekend, when I get to see my one and only nephew for his 7th birthday.

191 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:15:59pm

re: #136 goddamnedfrank

God damn you to hell, Frank, for your goddamn insolent nick.

[channeling the mistress of micturition]

192 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:16:18pm

re: #190 eclectic infidel

I am doing well, all things considered. A long-term contract with the potential to go permanent went south in late January. Despite that I'm enjoying this break, I just hope it doesn't last too long. I am considering going back to school and am looking into radiology and sonography for possible long-term career goals.

I'm looking forward to this weekend, when I get to see my one and only nephew for his 7th birthday.

I just got a new niece and a new baby cousin...nice news.

193 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:16:59pm

re: #177 Cato the Elder

Right. We have no stalkers, socks, or infiltraitors among the registered users. Carry on.

Right. A single cartoon avatar, used by a single Lizard, is the ultimate linchpin by which the stalkers, socks, or infiltrators will bring down LGF. Carry on.

194 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:17:07pm

re: #180 albusteve

I disagree...to me a hero is someone who disregards their own safety...possibly forfeit their own life for others...but I dilute the term once in a while myself...my mom built Liberators for three yeas but I don't consider the effort heroic

So all war heroes have to be Audie Murphy? Only the very narrowest definition of war hero would require bullets to literally be flying by your head.

You really don't find anything heroic in the actions of Patton and Ike during WWII? Or Grant and Lee during the civil war?

Regardless, my point is that Powell was the most respected military figure in America, and Limbaugh treats him like he's Al Sharpton.

195 Irenicum  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:19:05pm

Well, it seems this thread is getting dutifully complicated. All I know is that Rush is a fucking racist who knows exactly how to push the right buttons for his listeners. He knows all of the dog whistles all too well. How the hell is that complicated? And with that drive by posting, this lizard bids y'all a good night.

196 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:19:08pm

Sigh.

197 Chaplain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:19:38pm

re: #193 Slumbering Behemoth

Right. A single cartoon avatar, used by a single Lizard, is the ultimate linchpin by which the stalkers, socks, or infiltrators will bring down LGF. Carry on.

I think if us Christians can suck up the whole cross in a jar of urine thing without blowing anyone up, Muslims should be able to contain themselves over Mandy's avatar.

198 avanti  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:19:52pm

re: #187 albusteve

we?...Cato is in the ditch, not 'we'

I agree with Cato and some others, but this particular horse is apparently truly dead and I've tired of beating it.

199 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:20:04pm

Tweets from the wackosphere:

I thought @Lizardoid would cozy up to kos but it was @EricBoehlert. If you are going to sink, go right to the bottom. Doesn't get any lower.

200 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:20:05pm

re: #194 palomino

So all war heroes have to be Audie Murphy? Only the very narrowest definition of war hero would require bullets to literally be flying by your head.

You really don't find anything heroic in the actions of Patton and Ike during WWII? Or Grant and Lee during the civil war?

Regardless, my point is that Powell was the most respected military figure in America, and Limbaugh treats him like he's Al Sharpton.

certainly not...most heros never won a medal of any sort...I have a narrower definition of hero than you, therefore I see no heroism in Ike's conduct of the war...etc etc

201 windsagio  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:20:39pm

re: #198 avanti

I guess that's true. Its too bad that someone can be like that tho' :p

202 Virginia Plain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:20:41pm

Here's another good one from The Onion.

203 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:20:43pm

re: #196 Cato the Elder

Sigh.

need a push bro?

204 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:20:50pm

I thought RACHEL FRIKKIN MADDOW! was the lowest I could go.

But now I find that there are depths still unplumbed.

205 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:20:50pm

re: #192 SanFranciscoZionist

I just got a new niece and a new baby cousin...nice news.

Yay! I like family. Last year in October at my first cousin's wedding, I got to meet my second cousin, Laura, from Texas. The last she had seen me was when I was a teenager, and of course I didn't remember her from decades ago. It was like we were old friends. We got along famously. Just warmed my heart.

206 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:21:48pm

re: #196 Cato the Elder

Sigh.

What? Can I not have my turn at beating the dead horse? :P

207 Chaplain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:22:13pm

re: #204 Charles

I thought RACHEL FRIKKIN MADDOW! was the lowest I could go.

But now I find that there are depths still unplumbed.

You've mentioned her twice in two threads... are you trying to start a Rachel Maddow wharrgarbl?

208 Irenicum  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:22:18pm

re: #204 Charles

Rachel Maddow is one of the best voices out there right now. But I understand the sarc. We all could do a lot worse.

209 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:23:12pm

re: #201 windsagio

I guess that's true. Its too bad that someone can be like that tho' :p

I dislike your avatar...it really sucks and I want you to change it...and while you're at it change your attitude...and your socks....thanks

210 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:25:03pm

Just got through watching Nightline tonight, where they had a story on the American evangelicals' influences on the anti-homosexuality laws in Uganda, including the new legislation that punishes homosexuals by death.
Included was in interview with Scott Lively, author of "The Pink Swastika", which claims that the Nazi movement in Germany was a homosexual movement.

Anti-Homosexual Bill In Uganda Causes Global Uproar

"These are good Christians; better Christians than there are here in the states," says Lively. "They care about each other. And I think the reason they're pushing so hard on this law is that they don't want to see what happened to our country happen over there."

He told the conference's audience, made up of teachers, social workers, and politicians that "even though the majority of homosexuals are not oriented towards young people, there's a significant number who are. And when they see a child from a broken home, it's like they have a flashing neon sign over their head."

211 Chaplain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:25:35pm

re: #208 Irenicum

Rachel Maddow is one of the best voices out there right now. But I understand the sarc. We all could do a lot worse.

LOL... must... resist the urge... to wharrgarbl... about Maddow...must...resist!

212 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:25:52pm

re: #202 Virginia Plain

I like that you used a Youtube link for that rather than the Onion source. Intentional?

213 Irenicum  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:26:54pm

Keep fighting the good fight fellow lizards. Unloading a shitload of bookcases beckons very early tomorrow, and so I must bid you all a fond adieu.

214 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:27:46pm

I dig War...more War

215 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:27:48pm

re: #197 Chaplain

I think if us Christians can suck up the whole cross in a jar of urine thing without blowing anyone up, Muslims should be able to contain themselves over Mandy's avatar.

Sure, they should.

But that's a different ball of wax from whether it's offensive or inappropriate.

216 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:28:42pm

re: #210 RadicalModerate

Just got through watching Nightline tonight, where they had a story on the American evangelicals' influences on the anti-homosexuality laws in Uganda, including the new legislation that punishes homosexuals by death.
Included was in interview with Scott Lively, author of "The Pink Swastika", which claims that the Nazi movement in Germany was a homosexual movement.

Anti-Homosexual Bill In Uganda Causes Global Uproar

Wow, that is really bad. Instead of backing off after the publicity, US evangelicals are actually redoubling their efforts to support the murder of gay people in Uganda.

Bad craziness goes worldwide.

217 Lidane  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:28:57pm

re: #208 Irenicum

Rachel Maddow is one of the best voices out there right now.

I will always love this moment of hers. Blago was giving one of his nonsensical press conferences and she watched along, popcorn in hand:

Heh.

218 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:28:59pm

re: #209 albusteve

I like you Steve. Sometimes you piss me off, but overall I find you to be cool shit. Same goes for Cato. And Mandy. And...

219 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:30:15pm

re: #201 windsagio

THE COUNT!

220 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:30:18pm

re: #187 albusteve

we?...Cato is in the ditch, not 'we'

I'm in a foxhole, where, as everyone knows, there are no atheists. And the non-atheists under enemy fire will pray to Allah as easily as to "G-d" (please don't get me started on the asinine pseudo-pious custom of leaving out the "o").

I resent people pissing into my foxhole because they don't like a specific Name of God.

If you're incontinent, it's time for Depends. No one cares what name or image you may special-order to be printed inside your diapers.

221 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:32:09pm

re: #211 Chaplain

So, when was the last time you went skydiving?

/won't link it

222 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:32:13pm

re: #200 albusteve

certainly not...most heros never won a medal of any sort...I have a narrower definition of hero than you, therefore I see no heroism in Ike's conduct of the war...etc etc

Certainly Ike was in less immediate physical danger than those with less rank. But he carried the weight of the world on his shoulders when he was given the job of finishing the Nazis. He wasn't sitting at a desk 5000 miles away, watching things on a monitor.

What he did--defend freedom, liberate concentration camps, save western Europe from fascism, and in the process save millions of lives--sure qualifies as heroic in my book. (as well as most historians) But then I guess we all have a different "book" to play by.

223 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:32:57pm

re: #216 Charles

Wow, that is really bad. Instead of backing off after the publicity, US evangelicals are actually redoubling their efforts to support the murder of gay people in Uganda.

Bad craziness goes worldwide.

They likely figure they can't retreat from their position without a disastrous loss of face, so they've decided to just go all out. "The Pink Swastika" and its despicable historical revisionism only being a small aspect of their villainy.

224 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:33:22pm

re: #216 Charles

Wow, that is really bad. Instead of backing off after the publicity, US evangelicals are actually redoubling their efforts to support the murder of gay people in Uganda.

Bad craziness goes worldwide.

Charles, of course they would not back off. They certainly see Uganda as a righteous nation doing Gods will and passing out righteous judgement. Of course they see this as a giant success.

225 Chaplain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:33:37pm

re: #215 SanFranciscoZionist

Sure, they should.

But that's a different ball of wax from whether it's offensive or inappropriate.

Speaking as an artist, when have we ever stopped to consider if something is too offensive or inappropriate to create and why wasn't I informed?

226 Chaplain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:34:20pm

re: #221 Slumbering Behemoth

So, when was the last time you went skydiving?

/won't link it

If this is an internet meme, I am not familiar with it. Please do link it :)

227 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:34:47pm

re: #220 Cato the Elder

I'm in a foxhole, where, as everyone knows, there are no atheists. And the non-atheists under enemy fire will pray to Allah as easily as to "G-d" (please don't get me started on the asinine pseudo-pious custom of leaving out the "o").

I resent people pissing into my foxhole because they don't like a specific Name of God.

If you're incontinent, it's time for Depends. No one cares what name or image you may special-order to be printed inside your diapers.

I understand entirely...I'm sort of in the middle trying to mind my own business

228 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:35:11pm

re: #188 JasonA

THAT WAS FREAKIN' AWESOME!!!11!

Take that science!

Didja notice the divine razor wire around Gan Eden?

229 Virginia Plain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:35:43pm

re: #217 Lidane

I remember this from a year ago. I also liked her Night of the Living Head segment on Blago.

230 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:35:56pm

re: #225 Chaplain

Speaking as an artist, when have we ever stopped to consider if something is too offensive or inappropriate to create and why wasn't I informed?

There's a lot of art I love or have made that in NO WAY would I make my avatar on LGF. There's art, and then there's LGF avs.

231 Chaplain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:36:42pm

re: #230 WindUpBird

There's a lot of art I love or have made that in NO WAY would I make my avatar on LGF. There's art, and then there's LGF avs.

Fair enough argument :)

232 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:38:12pm

re: #210 RadicalModerate God forbid that what happened over there (Uganda), should happen here. Can't we revoke their passports or something? Preferable while they were out of the country? I'll trade 1 of them for 10 Mexican immigrants. Pleaase?

233 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:38:17pm

re: #228 Cato the Elder

Didja notice the divine razor wire around Gan Eden?

Gan Eden?

I am impressed with you for knowing the words.

Incidentally, behemoth is not necessarily a hippo. There is a very very large debate in the commentaries as to what it was/is.

It is some sort of huge land critter.

Leviathan is some sort of huge sea critter. It may be a whale or a squid or an octopus.

Interestingly enough, there are schools of thought that consider one to be a land dragon and the other a sea dragon as well.

234 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:42:05pm

re: #222 palomino

Certainly Ike was in less immediate physical danger than those with less rank. But he carried the weight of the world on his shoulders when he was given the job of finishing the Nazis. He wasn't sitting at a desk 5000 miles away, watching things on a monitor.

What he did--defend freedom, liberate concentration camps, save western Europe from fascism, and in the process save millions of lives--sure qualifies as heroic in my book. (as well as most historians) But then I guess we all have a different "book" to play by.

he did an excellent job for the most part, exactly what he was trained for...but wars are won in the trenches, dealing with overwhelming fear, where life and death are only an instant apart...this is where the heros are, not in a trailer behind the lines...coaches don't win games, players do...Ike didn't storm a beach or toss a grenade, or stock butt a Nazi when his clip popped out...to me there is a huge difference...he may have shit his pants, rather than fight in the face of a Japanese assault on Guadalcanal...nobody will ever know

235 Chaplain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:42:19pm

re: #231 Chaplain

Fair enough argument :)

Perhaps Mandy should consider taking it down or at the very least... consider pulling a Lars Vilks and get one of these

236 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:43:07pm
"These are good Christians; better Christians than there are here in the states," says Lively. "They care about each other. And I think the reason they're pushing so hard on this law is that they don't want to see what happened to our country happen over there."

WTF? Not just good, but "Better Christians" do not want to see their country progress towards equality? Is that the message?

237 RadicalModerate  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:43:58pm

re: #216 Charles

Wow, that is really bad. Instead of backing off after the publicity, US evangelicals are actually redoubling their efforts to support the murder of gay people in Uganda.

Bad craziness goes worldwide.

Reading thruogh the story, I'm reminded that one of the US groups that went over to Uganda was Exodus International.

Who just so happen to have some very strong ties to James Dobson's "Focus on the Family" ministry.

238 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:44:47pm

re: #225 Chaplain

Speaking as an artist, when have we ever stopped to consider if something is too offensive or inappropriate to create and why wasn't I informed?

I do all the time...art doesn't catch a break because some group of critics think it should...people are entitled to whatever opinion they want...art, shmart and plenty of it is awful, tasteless and not worth a dime, famous or not

239 Chaplain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:45:32pm

re: #236 Slumbering Behemoth

WTF? Not just good, but "Better Christians" do not want to see their country progress towards equality? Is that the message?

I used to be conceited, but now I am perfect. For some reason that sentence that comes to mind when I read that SB.

240 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:45:41pm

re: #233 LudwigVanQuixote

Gan Eden?

I am impressed with you for knowing the words.

Incidentally, behemoth is not necessarily a hippo. There is a very very large debate in the commentaries as to what it was/is.

It is some sort of huge land critter.

Leviathan is some sort of huge sea critter. It may be a whale or a squid or an octopus.

Interestingly enough, there are schools of thought that consider one to be a land dragon and the other a sea dragon as well.

I studied Hebrew for a while. Even bought the e-Tanakh for my iPhone Bible reader. Then I realized how far away I was from actually being able to benefit, and asked for a refund from Olive Tree Bible Software Inc., which they promptly and cheerfully gave.

I studied Yiddish as part of my degree work in Germanic Languages and Literature, and can still manage simple Bashevis Singer stories with relative ease.

241 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:47:48pm

Women's Day Dance in Front of Iranian Embassy in Ottawa

242 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:48:19pm

re: #240 Cato the Elder

and can still manage simple Bashevis Singer stories with relative ease.

i'm in my jammies and have brushed my teeth,,, tell us a story, daddy!!

//

243 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:49:05pm

re: #226 Chaplain

No link, and I recommend no one else links it.

"Wharrgarbl" is certainly an internet meme, usually involving pics of dogs trying to drink from high pressure sprinklers or hoses.

But if you search "Wharrgarbl"+"skydiving"+"gif", you get something else entirely. Do not link.

244 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:49:31pm

re: #232 Escaped Hillbilly

God forbid that what happened over there (Uganda), should happen here. Can't we revoke their passports or something? Preferable while they were out of the country? I'll trade 1 of them for 10 Mexican immigrants. Pleaase?

nope, they've got the right to spew their hateful garbage. A better way would be to fund books that rebut their revisionism and lay plain what a bunch of deceitful shits they really are.

245 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:49:32pm

re: #234 albusteve

that's an extraordinarily narrow definition of the term hero. dictionaries disagree with you, as do historians and a majority of Americans (who consistently rate Powell a hero, and did the same for Ike back in the day).

but, hey, nobody owns the word--define it however you wish.

246 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:51:43pm

re: #241 Killgore Trout

Women's Day Dance in Front of Iranian Embassy in Ottawa

[Video]

Well ,, if THAT doesn't stop ShortShits quest for nuclear weapons ,, NOTHING will!!
//

247 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:52:20pm

re: #245 palomino

that's an extraordinarily narrow definition of the term hero. dictionaries disagree with you, as do historians and a majority of Americans (who consistently rate Powell a hero, and did the same for Ike back in the day).

but, hey, nobody owns the word--define it however you wish.

I do...and I don't really care what academics think...Powell is a hero, so be it...I'm a hero too, everyone's a hero

248 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:53:00pm

re: #230 WindUpBird

There's a lot of art I love or have made that in NO WAY would I make my avatar on LGF. There's art, and then there's LGF avs.

What of mine? Offensive, hilarious, or just a nontroversy?

/or maybe just a really good photoshop that amuses the hell out of me

249 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:53:09pm

re: #239 Chaplain

What's up with the link to a Robert Stacy McCain article, dude?

250 torrentprime  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:53:20pm

re: #136 goddamnedfrank

You earned your handle with that one. Nice!

251 Chaplain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:53:54pm

re: #243 Slumbering Behemoth

No link, and I recommend no one else links it.

"Wharrgarbl" is certainly an internet meme, usually involving pics of dogs trying to drink from high pressure sprinklers or hoses.

But if you search "Wharrgarbl"+"skydiving"+"gif", you get something else entirely. Do not link.

I am familair with Wharrgarbl of course... not familiar with the skydiving one... let me see... *enters "Wharrgarbl"+"skydiving"+"gif" into google*.... *Click*....

Oh my....

252 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:53:58pm

Well, Rush, you are officially on your own now... I do not have any sort of defense to offer you. Done, and done.

253 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:54:54pm

re: #246 sattv4u2

Well ,, if THAT doesn't stop ShortShits quest for nuclear weapons ,, NOTHING will!!
//

No sarc tag needed. That's exactly what will end theocracy in Iran. There's no doubt about it. Humanity will not be suppressed.

254 Chaplain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:55:01pm

re: #249 Charles

What's up with the link to a Robert Stacy McCain article, dude?

I didn't link to any Robert Stacy McCain article did I?

255 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:55:37pm

re: #225 Chaplain

Speaking as an artist, when have we ever stopped to consider if something is too offensive or inappropriate to create and why wasn't I informed?

I don't know who 'we' is, or who you thought was going to inform you.

256 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:56:17pm

re: #230 WindUpBird

There's a lot of art I love or have made that in NO WAY would I make my avatar on LGF. There's art, and then there's LGF avs.

I love Chagall's White Crucifixion. I am not planning to use it as an avatar.

257 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:57:29pm

re: #253 Killgore Trout

No sarc tag needed. That's exactly what will end theocracy in Iran. There's no doubt about it. Humanity will not be suppressed.

Said it before, I'll say it again

i've been hearing for decades how the 'youth" in Iran are restless and will uprise against the theocrats

Funny, the only time they DID uprise was to put theocrats IN!

258 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:58:05pm

re: #257 sattv4u2

It's probably a different youth these days. Just guessing.

259 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:58:10pm

re: #249 Charles

What's up with the link to a Robert Stacy McCain article, dude?

Ruh ro.

260 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:58:59pm

re: #258 Obdicut

It's probably a different youth these days. Just guessing.

as it was last year, and the year before, and the year before that , and,,,, (are we seeing a pattern here yet!?!?!)

261 windsagio  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:59:00pm

re: #209 albusteve

Man I've wanted someone to comment on my avatar like forever. so thanks :D

262 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:59:06pm

War monger...get some

263 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 9:59:33pm

re: #260 sattv4u2

I do believe we're seeing a pattern, yes. Every year, there's a new bunch of youth.

264 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:00:09pm

re: #263 Obdicut

I do believe we're seeing a pattern, yes. Every year, there's a new bunch of youth.

And that brings us right back to my original point

thanks for joining in!

265 Lidane  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:00:22pm

Just ran across this if anyone is interested. Mother Jones has an article in their latest issue about the Oath Keepers:

Oath Keepers and the Age of Treason

I'm only halfway through, but it's definitely worth checking out, IMO.

266 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:00:26pm

re: #261 windsagio

Man I've wanted someone to comment on my avatar like forever. so thanks :D

people will do anything for attention....personally I like Charle's LGFootball

267 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:00:54pm

re: #264 sattv4u2

You lack whimsy.

268 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:01:15pm

re: #242 sattv4u2

and can still manage simple Bashevis Singer stories with relative ease.

i'm in my jammies and have brushed my teeth,,, tell us a story, daddy!!

//

Just a quote from "Gimpel the Fool":

Early on in the story, as the butt of many a joke and trick in his town, Gimpel seeks advice from the rabbi, who tells the poor man:

"It is written, better to be a fool all our days than for one hour to be evil. You are not a fool. They are the fools. For he who causes his neighbor to feel shame loses Paradise himself."

One of my prized possessions is a signed copy of one of Singer's novels.

269 windsagio  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:01:22pm

re: #266 albusteve

its boring :p You need something with some zazz!

I dig your whole luddite act tho :)

270 torrentprime  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:01:32pm

re: #266 albusteve

people will do anything for attention

Like suck up to the host? ;)

Kidding, kidding, kidding.

271 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:01:32pm

re: #267 Obdicut

You lack whimsy.

time/ place and all that!

272 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:02:12pm

re: #263 Obdicut

I do believe we're seeing a pattern, yes. Every year, there's a new bunch of youth.

I don't think Iranian youth will toss the mullahs...no way, no how, not alone anyway

273 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:02:18pm

re: #50 Charles

Yeah, worst $25 bucks I ever spent on a candidate. I am done with the guy.

274 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:02:42pm

Just some humor:

David received a parrot for his birthday - but parrot was fully grown, surly, and full of attitude. Every other word was a swear word. Those that weren't were, rude. David tried hard to change the bird's attitude and was constantly saying polite words, playing soft music, anything that came to mind. Nothing worked. He yelled at the bird, but the bird got worse.

Finally, in a moment of desperation, after the bird had said something that caused David's girlfriend to cry, David put the parrot in the freezer. For a few moments he heard the bird cussing, kicking and screaming and then, suddenly, all was quiet. David was frightened that he might have actually hurt the bird and quickly opened the freezer door.

The parrot calmly stepped out onto David's extended arm and said, "I'm truly sorry that I offended you with my language and actions. I ask for your forgiveness. I will go to synagogue with you every week to pray and I will try to modify my behavior."

David was astounded at the bird's change in attitude.

Then the parrot asked, "May I ask what the chicken did?"

275 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:03:34pm

re: #247 albusteve

I do...and I don't really care what academics think...Powell is a hero, so be it...I'm a hero too, everyone's a hero

Regardless of whether he's a hero or "just" the most respected military figure in the country, Limbaugh treated him like he was a race-baiting Al Sharpton. Ironic as it's the very kind of thing dittoheads would usually call unpatriotic, if not downright treasonous.

276 torrentprime  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:04:12pm

re: #275 palomino

Regardless of whether he's a hero or "just" the most respected military figure in the country, Limbaugh treated him like he was a race-baiting Al Sharpton. Ironic as it's the very kind of thing dittoheads would usually call unpatriotic, if not downright treasonous.

IOKIYAR. It's not just a good idea; it's the law.

277 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:04:17pm

re: #271 sattv4u2

278 Chaplain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:05:39pm

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

Ruh ro.

Where did I link to a Robert Stacy McCain article? Seriously? I don't think I did and if I didn't it wasn't intentional. I probably linked the article without looking at the author. I don't agree with the man at all, rest assured.

279 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:06:08pm

re: #268 Cato the Elder

Just a quote from "Gimpel the Fool":

Early on in the story, as the butt of many a joke and trick in his town, Gimpel seeks advice from the rabbi, who tells the poor man:

"It is written, better to be a fool all our days than for one hour to be evil. You are not a fool. They are the fools. For he who causes his neighbor to feel shame loses Paradise himself."

One of my prized possessions is a signed copy of one of Singer's novels.

Singer is one of my favorite authors. Honestly, between him and Saul Bellow, (distinctly) Jewish literature (as opposed to the author was Jewish) of the 20th century has absolutely nothing to prove.

280 Obdicut  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:08:03pm

re: #279 LudwigVanQuixote

Don't forget Primo Levi. The teller of the darkest tale.

281 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:08:22pm

re: #275 palomino

Regardless of whether he's a hero or "just" the most respected military figure in the country, Limbaugh treated him like he was a race-baiting Al Sharpton. Ironic as it's the very kind of thing dittoheads would usually call unpatriotic, if not downright treasonous.

Limbaugh means little to me...people say all kinds of crazy stuff, he's just another two bit ratings hustler...I won't ding his show, that's the best I can do

282 torrentprime  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:08:51pm

Speaking of Massa, some might enjoy this writeup of the Beck/Massa pity-off:

The Best Thing You'll Read on Massa v. Beck
Excerpt:

"I can't fight this. I can't fight cancer," Massa announced, in a classic stream of consciousness ramble. "I can't fight the White House. I can't fight the Democratic Party."

Beck, who is used to controlling the gravitational force of victimhood around him, kept interrupting to point out that he was a bigger target of even greater forces than Massa. "I have two unauthorized biographies coming out against me in the spring," Beck said at one point.

283 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:09:32pm

re: #278 Chaplain

Where did I link to a Robert Stacy McCain article? Seriously? I don't think I did and if I didn't it wasn't intentional. I probably linked the article without looking at the author. I don't agree with the man at all, rest assured.

Fair enough. However, you had not posted much for quite some time and you've had a sudden flurry. That attracts attention. I'm not saying you've done something wrong (because I don't think you did, or at least not seriously) but you need to know that such a pattern sometimes means a sockpuppet.

284 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:09:33pm

re: #233 LudwigVanQuixote

285 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:09:43pm

Now for the nighty night. Night all.

286 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:10:14pm

re: #241 Killgore Trout

Women's Day Dance in Front of Iranian Embassy in Ottawa

[Video]

"That is offensive to me, and an intentional offense against my religion and my god. How dare you call that art!"

287 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:10:43pm

re: #274 LudwigVanQuixote

Just some humor:

David received a parrot for his birthday - but parrot was fully grown, surly, and full of attitude. Every other word was a swear word. Those that weren't were, rude. David tried hard to change the bird's attitude and was constantly saying polite words, playing soft music, anything that came to mind. Nothing worked. He yelled at the bird, but the bird got worse.

Finally, in a moment of desperation, after the bird had said something that caused David's girlfriend to cry, David put the parrot in the freezer. For a few moments he heard the bird cussing, kicking and screaming and then, suddenly, all was quiet. David was frightened that he might have actually hurt the bird and quickly opened the freezer door.

The parrot calmly stepped out onto David's extended arm and said, "I'm truly sorry that I offended you with my language and actions. I ask for your forgiveness. I will go to synagogue with you every week to pray and I will try to modify my behavior."

David was astounded at the bird's change in attitude.

Then the parrot asked, "May I ask what the chicken did?"

And now my parrot/freezer story (Soviet vintage):

Oleg inherits a parrot from his late great-aunt. However, the bird screams, over and over, "A worker's paradise my ass!" and "Down with Brezhnev!", prompting a visit from the KGB. As they leave Oleg's apartment they tell him they will be back the next day, and they expect to see a change in the parrot's attitude.

The following day, the KGB agents revisit Oleg. As soon as they walk through the door the parrot shouts "Down with Zionism! Up with Angela Davis! Long live the heroic working class of the Soviet nation!" The agents praise Oleg for the change he has brought about, drink a glass of tea, and leave.

As soon as they're gone, Oleg sinks down into a chair and tells the parrot, "I'm glad spending the night in the freezer got it through to you what Siberia was going to be like."

288 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:12:10pm

re: #281 albusteve

Limbaugh means little to me...people say all kinds of crazy stuff, he's just another two bit ratings hustler...I won't ding his show, that's the best I can do

sure, he's a pos, and I wouldn't give a flying fuck about him either, except for his army of dittoheading teabaggers. The fat fuck shapes much of the discourse, so he can't be ignored.

289 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:15:40pm

re: #284 Cato the Elder

[Video]

re: #287 SanFranciscoZionist

Here is my old Russian Jewish Joke:

Sometime in the 1970s a shipment of meat arrived in a town in the Soviet Union. The townspeople lined up at the town store to wait to be given their rations.

After about an hour, a man comes out of the store and announces, "Comrades, I'm sorry to tell you, but there isn't enough meat for everyone, so the Jews have to leave." The Jews in the line leave grumbling.

About an hour later, the man comes out of the store and announces, "Comrades, I'm sorry to tell you this, but there isn't enough meat for everyone, so anyone who is not a member of the Communist party will have to leave." More grumbling as the non-Party members depart.

Another hour goes by and the man comes out of the store again and announces, "Comrades, I'm sorry to tell you this, but there isn't enough meat for everyone in the line, so anyone who wasn't a member of the Party before 1956 has to leave." More grumbling as all the younger Party members leave. A few old people remain in the line.

Another hour goes by. It's now getting dark and it's cold. The same man comes out of the store and announces, "Comrades, I'm sorry to tell you this, but there isn't any meat. Go home."

One old lady in the line turns to her neighbor and says, "See? It's like I told you. Those evil Jews get all the breaks because they run everything!"

290 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:16:10pm

re: #288 palomino

sure, he's a pos, and I wouldn't give a flying fuck about him either, except for his army of dittoheading teabaggers. The fat fuck shapes much of the discourse, so he can't be ignored.

I easily ignore him...I'm not on a mission to purify politics, it's a hopeless endeavor imo...if it wasn't him, it would be the next guy...the resolution to cleaning up DC is with the voters, not Limbaugh or Beck or the rest, but they are irresistable...AmIdol politics, it's unstoppable

291 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:16:38pm

re: #284 Cato the Elder

OK, I love that guy.

292 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:16:45pm

re: #287 SanFranciscoZionist

And now my parrot/freezer story (Soviet vintage):

Oleg inherits a parrot from his late great-aunt. However, the bird screams, over and over, "A worker's paradise my ass!" and "Down with Brezhnev!", prompting a visit from the KGB. As they leave Oleg's apartment they tell him they will be back the next day, and they expect to see a change in the parrot's attitude.

The following day, the KGB agents revisit Oleg. As soon as they walk through the door the parrot shouts "Down with Zionism! Up with Angela Davis! Long live the heroic working class of the Soviet nation!" The agents praise Oleg for the change he has brought about, drink a glass of tea, and leave.

As soon as they're gone, Oleg sinks down into a chair and tells the parrot, "I'm glad spending the night in the freezer got it through to you what Siberia was going to be like."

In Soviet Union, parrot eats YOU.

293 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:18:37pm

re: #288 palomino

sure, he's a pos, and I wouldn't give a flying fuck about him either, except for his army of dittoheading teabaggers. The fat fuck shapes much of the discourse, so he can't be ignored.

Actually, he can be

For all his 'influence', for all his "power', for all his following (more on that in a moment) he doesn'r ofetn (if at all) get his way. Neither Bush in 2000 nor McCain in 2008 were his choices

And as far as that following. He claims 17 million listerners per week

Well ,, seeing that he is on 5 days a week , that come out to less than 3.5 million a day. He's on over 200 stations, so thats 17,500 people per station. In that many of those staions are in large cities, thats really not that much

294 Chaplain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:19:57pm

re: #283 Dark_Falcon

Fair enough. However, you had not posted much for quite some time and you've had a sudden flurry. That attracts attention. I'm not saying you've done something wrong (because I don't think you did, or at least not seriously) but you need to know that such a pattern sometimes means a sockpuppet.

I see. Well, rest assured I am no sockpuppet. I was actually putting off some work tonight that I was supposed to get done and for some odd reason felt like commenting on some threads to pass the time while I sat here avoiding work (reasonable enough right?).

I think it was the comment I posted where I was jesting that Charles had left the republican party a long time ago and linked to a Hot Air article that I found with Google search saying something to that very effect. I figured if anything completely vitriolic were to be found on the web it would be found at Hot Air and linked it without looking at the author. I apologize if it was a Robert Stacy McCain article (still not sure since it is now deleted) and I want everyone to know I am against this hateful man and everything the SPLC represents.

295 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:21:42pm

re: #294 Chaplain

I am against this hateful man and everything the SPLC represents.


huh !?!?

The Southern Poverty Law center !?!?!

WTF!

296 Chaplain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:22:03pm

re: #294 Chaplain

I see. Well, rest assured I am no sockpuppet. I was actually putting off some work tonight that I was supposed to get done and for some odd reason felt like commenting on some threads to pass the time while I sat here avoiding work (reasonable enough right?).

I think it was the comment I posted where I was jesting that Charles had left the republican party a long time ago and linked to a Hot Air article that I found with Google search saying something to that very effect. I figured if anything completely vitriolic were to be found on the web it would be found at Hot Air and linked it without looking at the author. I apologize if it was a Robert Stacy McCain article (still not sure since it is now deleted) and I want everyone to know I am against this hateful man and everything the SPLC represents.

*correction I am against everything the SNLS not the SPLC represents*

297 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:22:59pm

re: #296 Chaplain

*correction I am against everything the SNLS not the SPLC represents*

That's fair enough. I accept that explanation.

298 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:23:23pm

re: #290 albusteve

I easily ignore him...I'm not on a mission to purify politics, it's a hopeless endeavor imo...if it wasn't him, it would be the next guy...the resolution to cleaning up DC is with the voters, not Limbaugh or Beck or the rest, but they are irresistable...AmIdol politics, it's unstoppable

of course it's a dirty business, countering Limbaugh's BS won't change that...but doing nothing would let his propaganda stand unrefuted, and that's not really an option either

as for ignoring him, it's easy enough not to listen to his show, but his dark and wide shadow is cast everywhere, from LGF to virtually every other source for political news, left or right or whatever.

299 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:25:13pm

re: #293 sattv4u2

Actually, he can be

For all his 'influence', for all his "power', for all his following (more on that in a moment) he doesn'r ofetn (if at all) get his way. Neither Bush in 2000 nor McCain in 2008 were his choices

And as far as that following. He claims 17 million listerners per week

Well ,, seeing that he is on 5 days a week , that come out to less than 3.5 million a day. He's on over 200 stations, so thats 17,500 people per station. In that many of those staions are in large cities, thats really not that much

Rush influences some people because they want him too...people are addicted to TV and radio pundits...it's not Limbaugh, it's the people that need him and they are the ones that should be the target of wrath here...but that's not the way it is...I can only hurt Limbaugh by ignoring him, and then the very people that support him with their ratings count tell me he can't be ignored....go figure

300 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:26:32pm

re: #296 Chaplain

*correction I am against everything the SNLS not the SPLC represents*

That makes more sense.

301 torrentprime  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:27:38pm

I have to put this in before I head to bed. Totally off-topic, but it's covered half the blogosphere now, so hopefully someone finds it... well, cute. If this is a repeat (worse, something I already posted) my apologies, but it's too cute not to share.

Husbands and Husbands
Little Calen meets his first gay married couple.

Night all.

302 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:28:00pm

re: #289 LudwigVanQuixote

Random Buddhist monk joke (or story, or parable, as you like it):

Two young Buddhist monks are walking back to their monastery after visiting a distant temple.

They come to a ford on a river, but the river is in spate and the water level is four times higher than normal.

Beside the ford sits a woman with her basket of produce for the market town on the other side. She begs the monks to help her cross.

The first monk shakes his head and wades in. The second takes the woman on his shoulders and carries her across.

The two monks proceed in silence until they come in sight of the monastery. Then the first one can no longer contain himself, and, breaking his vow of silence, expostulates:

"That was not right, what you did at the ford, brother."

The second monk replies, "Why?"

"Because of our vow of celibacy, brother. We must not have contact with women."

The second monk says, "Brother, I left her at the ford. Do you carry her still?"

303 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:30:17pm

re: #293 sattv4u2

First, who was Limbaugh's first choice in 2000? Not McCain certainly. Was it that walking wax figure Steve Forbes?

Second, I hope you're right about his influence. But he still has the most listeners on radio and his toxic declarations find their way into the discourse WAY too often to just write him off. I mean, a lot of Republicans in Congress are reluctant to even criticize him...can't really say that about many other media figures.

304 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:30:47pm

re: #298 palomino

of course it's a dirty business, countering Limbaugh's BS won't change that...but doing nothing would let his propaganda stand unrefuted, and that's not really an option either

as for ignoring him, it's easy enough not to listen to his show, but his dark and wide shadow is cast everywhere, from LGF to virtually every other source for political news, left or right or whatever.

it is and it does...as for me, nobody in my family or small circle of friends pays any attention to those guys...I'm out of the AmIdol loop, but the more powerful they become, the less interested I am in voting on the national level...I see no reason to be a part of that insanity

305 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:31:15pm

re: #301 torrentprime

See how quickly that poor kid was indoctrinated by Commiehomonazienviroleftist propaganda?!?

Wharrgarbl!!!

306 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:32:25pm

re: #302 Cato the Elder

Random Buddhist monk joke (or story, or parable, as you like it):

Two young Buddhist monks are walking back to their monastery after visiting a distant temple.

They come to a ford on a river, but the river is in spate and the water level is four times higher than normal.

Beside the ford sits a woman with her basket of produce for the market town on the other side. She begs the monks to help her cross.

The first monk shakes his head and wades in. The second takes the woman on his shoulders and carries her across.

The two monks proceed in silence until they come in sight of the monastery. Then the first one can no longer contain himself, and, breaking his vow of silence, expostulates:

"That was not right, what you did at the ford, brother."

The second monk replies, "Why?"

"Because of our vow of celibacy, brother. We must not have contact with women."

The second monk says, "Brother, I left her at the ford. Do you carry her still?"

That is brilliant.

307 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:34:33pm

re: #304 albusteve

it is and it does...as for me, nobody in my family or small circle of friends pays any attention to those guys...I'm out of the AmIdol loop, but the more powerful they become, the less interested I am in voting on the national level...I see no reason to be a part of that insanity

Then I applaud you and your friends for this. Unfortunately the revulsion we share for "AmIdol politics" isn't felt by the millions of simpletons who love a fat blowhard telling them what to think.

308 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:34:37pm

re: #303 palomino

First, who was Limbaugh's first choice in 2000? Not McCain certainly. Was it that walking wax figure Steve Forbes?

Second, I hope you're right about his influence. But he still has the most listeners on radio and his toxic declarations find their way into the discourse WAY too often to just write him off. I mean, a lot of Republicans in Congress are reluctant to even criticize him...can't really say that about many other media figures.

Limbaugh's influence is not, and never has been, geared toward putting his man in the White House. Limbaugh's actually better off when Democrats are in power.

309 Chaplain  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:35:56pm

re: #300 SanFranciscoZionist

That makes more sense.

LOL yeah it is late (as you can tell by my comments suddenly making no sense at all) so I am going to hit the hay. Night lizards!

310 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:36:28pm

re: #308 SanFranciscoZionist

Limbaugh's influence is not, and never has been, geared toward putting his man in the White House. Limbaugh's actually better off when Democrats are in power.

Of course, it gives him more targets. And he doesn't have to carry as much water for the GOP.

311 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:38:04pm

ggggrrrrrrrr,,,,,

trying to get used to the graveyard shift here at work

it's 1;30 a.m ,,,, Am I supposed to be having lunch now!?!?

312 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:38:28pm

re: #309 Chaplain

LOL yeah it is late (as you can tell by my comments suddenly making no sense at all) so I am going to hit the hay. Night lizards!

Sleep well, friend.

313 simoom  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:39:10pm

re: #63 Charles

There don't seem to be any consequences at all for this kind of crap in American politics.

That's been my take away from the past year or so too.

314 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:40:05pm

re: #307 palomino

Then I applaud you and your friends for this. Unfortunately the revulsion we share for "AmIdol politics" isn't felt by the millions of simpletons who love a fat blowhard telling them what to think.

I am very dismayed by the direction we are headed...as if there are not enough problems with govt, now there is this huge trump card MSM being played by everyone, the internet included...I guess you might say I have a negative idealism...hahaha!...anyway I just don't know how to beat this thing, except via the voters themselves, yet they are the root of the problem....see Tea Parties for reference...I'm a bad vibe, I know

315 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:42:12pm

re: #314 albusteve

I am very dismayed by the direction we are headed...as if there are not enough problems with govt, now there is this huge trump card MSM being played by everyone, the internet included...I guess you might say I have a negative idealism...hahaha!...anyway I just don't know how to beat this thing, except via the voters themselves, yet they are the root of the problem...see Tea Parties for reference...I'm a bad vibe, I know

but breitbart says the msm is dead, he killed it. seriously, though, what do u mean by trump card msm?

316 lostlakehiker  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:43:32pm

re: #178 palomino

Generals can't be heroes? Where do you come up with this?

Washington was certainly viewed as the hero of the FIRST American Revolution. And those ticker tape parades for the returning Generals at the end of WWII? I guess we'd better let today's octogenarians know that these guys they admired so much weren't really heroes.

A good general doesn't take unnecessary risks with his own life. He shouldn't be doing things that might earn him a medal. Except. If you're Jim Gavin and the fate of operation Market Garden is on the line at Eindhoven. If you're Robert E. Lee and the Yankees have broken your line at what will become known as the Bloody Angle. If you're Alexander Rodimtsev and the Nazis have penetrated to your command bunker and the whole Red Army's ferry capability into Stalingrad collapses unless you and your HQ staff, with grenade and pistol, can regain control of the situation for long enough that the next ferryload of your guardsmen can land. wikipedia gives details

317 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:43:51pm

Hi everyone left. I've been working my butt off, but got a lot accomplished, while checking in and doing my dinging every once in awhile.

The Calen video was the best part of the thread.

318 Cato the Elder  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:46:47pm

re: #306 LudwigVanQuixote

That is brilliant.

My favorite Hasidic story:

A pious young yeshivah-bocher finds himself perturbed by the rebbe's behavior. He beseeches the rebbe to grant him an interview.

"What can I do for you, my son?"

"Well, rebbe, you know that in the laws it says, 'Thou shalt complete thy purifications before thou partakest of the mikvah.' But I have seen you clipping your fingernails and toenails after you emerge from the ritual bath."

"You are right to question me, my boy. But the answer is is a deep mystery that cannot be revealed lightly. Go and fast for a week, and come back."

The yeshivah student does his fast, and, slightly emaciated, returns in a week.

"Rebbe, what is this great mystery."

"You are too impatient, my boy. Fast another week."

And so on.

Finally, the poor student comes back, half starved, and demands an answer.

"This is only for your ears, my son. Bend your ear to my lips that I may whisper it to you."

The student inclines his head, and the rebbe says: "I clip my nails after the bath because - they're softer then."

319 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:47:10pm

re: #315 palomino

but breitbart says the msm is dead, he killed it. seriously, though, what do u mean by trump card msm?

the MSM has too much influence, they have their agenda...not that these times are different than the past in that regard...but info travels so fast, news 24/7, the media now has the ability to direct opinion rather than just report the news...it's an ethics issue and I feel the MSM is deliberately taking advantage of their power to make money...I hate the MSM

320 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:48:03pm

If it were up to me, I would have titled this one "The Trouble With Trolololobles".

:sigh: When good memes get bad titles.

321 Lidane  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:48:08pm

re: #301 torrentprime

Husbands and Husbands
Little Calen meets his first gay married couple.

That. Is. AWESOME. I love it! :)

322 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:49:49pm

re: #316 lostlakehiker

Good examples all.

I would still stick with my original point that, especially for a general, heroism is not necessarily always the same as courage under fire. MacArthur, Patton, Ike. May not have taken any enemy fire themselves during WWII, but when they came back they were certainly American heroes. (OK, Patton didn't exactly come back, but you know what i mean)

323 albusteve  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:50:51pm

I'm out like Jerry Quarry

324 Stanghazi  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:53:26pm

re: #323 albusteve

I'm out like Jerry Quarry

Me too. Night!

325 palomino  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:54:30pm

re: #319 albusteve

the MSM has too much influence, they have their agenda...not that these times are different than the past in that regard...but info travels so fast, news 24/7, the media now has the ability to direct opinion rather than just report the news...it's an ethics issue and I feel the MSM is deliberately taking advantage of their power to make money...I hate the MSM

I agree largely, but not for any ideological reasons. The MSM is generally spineless, even more spineless than Dems.

The internet has pulled back the curtain on the MSM, to some extent, and what we see isn't pretty. (ironically, as we get millions of new outlets via the web, the concentration of big media in fewer and fewer entities accelerates) Take heart in the fact that new media may eventually dilute even more of the msm power. (but i wouldn't bet too much on it)

326 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 10:55:13pm

My evil Darwinistic plot to rid the world of stupid people.

Tell them that there is the biggest gosh durn rifle in the world that shoots a massive slug at over 2000 fps.

Tell them that only real shooters can use one properly.

All of this is true.

Let them shoot the damn rifle.

327 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:01:50pm

re: #326 LudwigVanQuixote

Wot the hell was that? I've had some odd experiences at the rifle range, but I never dropped nor let fly. Business end, down range. ALWAYS!

328 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 10, 2010 11:09:17pm

re: #327 Slumbering Behemoth

Wot the hell was that? I've had some odd experiences at the rifle range, but I never dropped nor let fly. Business end, down range. ALWAYS!

Exactly, that's pretty punk. I think I'd prefer the .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer. It's just as pointless and ridiculous a caliber, the tiny bullet burns up from air friction after a few hundred yards yards. But at least you don't drop it.

329 fizzlogic  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 4:45:15am

Did anyone read Matt Taibbi's article about this?

I like that Taibbi has Rush pegged:

"the guy has been self-plagiarizing for like eighteen consecutive years now — hasn’t added a single thing to his act since the first Clinton term at least — and this shit is just muscle memory with him by now. He’s just mailing it in over and over again, using as little mental energy as possible broadcast after broadcast"

I've said pretty much the same thing in the past but without Taibbi's flair.

330 Flavia  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 5:32:14am

re: #113 SanFranciscoZionist

Did we have someone defending the watermelon remark?

On second thought, don't tell me if we did.

I think that a person's history does play a big part in determining whether a remark was unintentional or not. For example, I'm sure it was unintentional on Rather's part. And, from the right person, Limbaugh's remark could have been interpreted as "reminding us of our racist past where blacks were enslaved." I could see Spike Lee (for example) deliberately saying it in that context. That said, it doesn't change what a big fat idiot Rush Limbaugh is - & I'm sure he meant it exactly as it struck everyone, with the "extra added bonus" of his insisting it was "just satire."

331 Super-ego  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 6:19:27am

Sounded like a racist comment to me. Rush is moving his followers closer to the fringe.

I bet we can all agree though that the Right doesn't have a monopoly on racism or racist comments.

332 Petero1818  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:37:12am

re: #154 albusteve

generals are not war heros in my opinion, and I doubt Powell would consider himself one...he never served under fire that I know of

While I am not sure I care whether he is viewed as a hero or not, Powell did serve as a Captain in Vietnam and he was wounded while on patrol during that tour.

333 DodgerFan1988  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 1:33:52pm

Good Lord! How can anyone now not say Limbaugh is a racist?


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