Otoboke Beaver - Full Performance (Live on KEXP)

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kexp.org presents Otoboke Beaver performing live on KEXP from The Triple Door. Recorded February 20, 2024.

Songs:
YAKITORI 01:31
Akimahenka 03:31
Don’t light my fire 04:58
S’il vous plait 07:52
Love is Short 10:04
What do you mean you have talk to me at this late date? 12:52
Datsu . Hikage no onna 14:51
Dirty old fart is waiting for my reaction 18:30
I am not maternal 19:37
I put my love to you in a song JASRAC 22:56
I checked your cellphone 25:26
I won’t dish out salads 28:54
Leave me alone! No, stay with me! 30:31
I don’t want to die alone 32:59
anata watashi daita ato yome no meshi 35:03

Accorinrin - Vocals
Yoyoyoshie - Guitar, Vocals
Hiro-chan - Bass, Vocals
Kahokiss - Drums, Vocals

Host: Jennifer Govola
Audio Engineers: Julian Martlew
Guest Audio Engineers: Melissa Adams FOH, Sam Scheibner (triple door)
Mastering: Julian Martlew

Cameras: Jim Beckmann, Carlos Cruz, Luke Knecht, Jonathan Jacobson & Scott Holpainen
Editor: Luke Knecht

otobokebeaver.com
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297 comments
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Charles Johnson  Jun 2, 2024 • 5:56:59pm

I think my favorite track is “Dirty old fart is waiting for my reaction.” A classic.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 2, 2024 • 5:57:46pm

that LV is not fucking around

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darthstar  Jun 2, 2024 • 5:59:24pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

I think my favorite track is “Dirty old fart is waiting for my reaction.” A classic.

Jumped to that song. Classic punk rock vibe.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 2, 2024 • 6:05:26pm

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darthstar  Jun 2, 2024 • 6:16:46pm

There were 3 good arguments that Jesus was Black:
1. He called everyone brother
2. He liked Gospel
3. He didn’t get a fair trial

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Jewish:
1. He went into His Father’s business
2. He lived at home until he was 33
3. He was sure his Mother was a virgin and his Mother was sure He was God

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Italian:
1. He talked with His hands
2. He had wine with His meals
3. He used olive oil

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was a Californian:
1. He never cut His hair
2. He walked around barefoot all the time
3. He started a new religion

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was an American Indian:
1. He was at peace with nature
2. He ate a lot of fish
3. He talked about the Great Spirit

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Irish:
1. He never got married.
2. He was always telling stories.
3. He loved green pastures.

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Mexican:
1. He treated his mama like she was a saint.
2. He always wore llantas and a serape.
3. He was a carpenter who could fix anything.

But the most compelling evidence of all - 3 proofs that Jesus was a woman:
1. He fed a crowd at a moment’s notice when there was virtually no food
2. He kept trying to get a message across to a bunch of men who just didn’t get it
3. And even when He was dead, He had to get up because there was still work to do.

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darthstar  Jun 2, 2024 • 6:22:03pm

re: #93 Nerdy Fish

I did not. That is the actual image of the dopefish. The original is, as demonstrated there, green; my dopefish avatar here is pink, because I am a pinko commie leftist.

I probably would have chosen the Bugblatter of I was versed in the genre.

But second place is nothing to scoff at. That’s quite the accomplishment.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 2, 2024 • 6:23:40pm

re: #89 retired cynic

@Bo_Gardiner
This is stunning. I collapsed it into one image for sharing. It deserves it. Colin Cowherd has approaching 2 MILLION Twitter followers and was MAGA until 2 years ago. People should share it with RW or uncertain friends and family.

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Here’s the text in a form legible to read on a handheld:

Colin Cowherd, 5/51/2024 podcast

“He’s trying to sell me an America that doesn’t exist. I don’t see crime, I’m not stumbling over homeless people. I see happy people. Dodger Stadium is full, leads Major League Baseball in attendance. Laker games are full. NFL games are full. People have money in their pocket. LAX is packed, I just saw record airline revenue over the weekend.

I’m constantly being sold an America by Donald Trump of ‘crime rates are skyrocketing.’ No, they’re actually not. Starting in 2023 they have plummeted coast to coast…

You can’t keep selling me on how bad the country I live in is, because it’s not…
Donald Trump is now a felon. His campaign chairman was a felon. So is his deputy campaign manager, his personal lawyer, his chief strategist, his National Security Adviser, his Trade Advisor, his Foreign Policy Adviser, his campaign fixer and his company CFO. They’re all felons. Judged by the company you keep. It’s a cabal of convicts. If everybody in your social circle is a felon, I don’t think it’s rigged. I don’t think the world’s against you.

And to get people to agree on anything, 34 counts? O for 34? That’s a batting slump even the New York Mets could be impressed with. O for 34.

When you’re constantly trying to sell me on an America that I don’t see…Trump’s entire gameplan is ‘The country is in a free fall.’ Maybe in the Trump-centric neighborhoods it is.
Stop trying to sell me on ‘everything’s rigged, the country’s falling into the sea, the economy’s terrible. The America I live in is imperfect. But compared to the rest of the world, I think we’re doing okay.”

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2024 • 6:25:06pm

They did a Tiny Music Desk performance not too long ago.

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darthstar  Jun 2, 2024 • 6:28:30pm

It’s not nice to mock MAGA, but fuck them.

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darthstar  Jun 2, 2024 • 6:29:53pm

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 2, 2024 • 6:43:15pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:00:06pm

Best wishes to Rupert Murdoch on the occasion of his 5th wedding.
nbcnews.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:00:48pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

This will be the magic one!

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Decatur Deb  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:01:46pm

re: #13 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This will be the magic one!

Til death do they part, probably.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:02:19pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

Seems to be several connections between Murdoch and Russian oligarchs…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:08:43pm
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Belafon  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:11:33pm

re: #79 darthstar

OMG it does not suck.

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Your recipe reminded me of my dad’s cobbler. I had to ask him for the recipe. It’s one of those high taste-to-effort ratio recipes.

1 cup sugar
1 cup flour
1 cup evaporated milk
2 tsp. Baking Powder
1 stick of butter or margarine
1 large can of Peaches with heavy syrup

Heat the fruit in a sauce pan. Add ½ cup of sugar to the juice. (If there needs to be more juice add ½ cup water. This will turn to syrup. You do not want juice thick).

Mix sugar, flour, baking powder in a bowl. Add milk and mix well.

Melt butter or margarine in a 9” X 13” casserole dish or cake pan, in the oven. Pour batter into the butter. Pour fruit mixture into the batter. DO NOT STIR OR MIX.

Bake at 350*F until golden brown and done.

I found a slight variation at adventuresofadiymom.com, where they do the whole thing in one pan. In both cases the cobbler looks like this served:

The fun part is that you pour the peaches on top, but they sink through the batter as it cooks.

Edit: We’ve used that basic recipe with other fruits as well, such as cherries and blackberries.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:13:18pm

On the perpetual outrage which exhausts conservatives. (5:59)

Let’s talk about stereotypes and accepting you….

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:19:50pm

re: #16 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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Not quite what happened; kxan.com

According to the article, an empty bus parked on an incline near a CVS rolled downhill and smashed into a power pole. No humans injured in the process.

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:20:51pm

re: #19 Hecuba’s daughter

Not quite what happened; kxan.com

According to the article, an empty bus parked on an incline near a CVS rolled downhill and smashed into a power pole. No humans injured in the process.

Prove to me Jesus wasn’t behind the wheel.

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:22:09pm

re: #16 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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A spot-on encapsulation of the entire MAGAt experience and the deity who led them there.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:33:56pm

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:37:36pm

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

Eric:

“…The swing of independent voters after this conviction has been unbelievable because no one believes it. And you know, they’re literally feeding him, you know, certain segments of the population that he might not have had in 2016 and 2020 because for the first time, they realize that the system’s coming down, that he’s the victim. He’s the victim that oftentimes some of their communities were.

And you see them swinging. Look at the African-American vote, right? That’s swinging over to Donald Trump in spades. Look at the Hispanic vote over the last couple years. You know, look at the youth vote right now, Maria. I mean, we’ve never had more youth support out there and people know exactly what’s going on and they want a strong country again.”
mediaite.com

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:38:05pm

Pommes Dauphin, anyone?

French for “fancy hash browns”

Recipe at:

seriouseats.com

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jaunte  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:38:17pm

No one in that family knows what “literally” means.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:39:50pm

re: #25 jaunte

No one in that family knows what “literally” means.

“Literally feeding him [Black voters being fed to Trump]”

I can believe that.

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TedStriker  Jun 2, 2024 • 7:43:19pm

re: #11 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:06:39pm

The final round of North America’s ice bound sports game activity will commence next Saturday in Sunrise FL (go figure) featuring the Edmonton Oilers against the Florida Panthers competing for the rights to the 16th Earl of Derby’s Dominion Hockey Challenge Cup

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:12:52pm

Friday I saw a Trump car parked in front of the Walmart. I would have taken a picture but I was driving and didn’t want to take my phone out. It was gross looking.

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Belafon  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:15:41pm
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Belafon  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:16:17pm
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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:27:55pm

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wrenchwench  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:35:21pm

Mastodon

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Kilroy was here  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:36:27pm

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austin_blue  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:36:28pm

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

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I remember when the BBC broadcast a show called “Spooks” that was called “MI-6” on PBS because “spooks” was a pejorative American reference to to Negroes.

I hadn’t heard this. I was certainly aware of n******s, spearchuckers, and ‘boons. I lived in Georgia, Mississippi, and North Carolina in my yoot.

I was also familiar with Crackers, ghosts, and whitesheets.

Also, racist motherfucking white traitor recidivists.

Which we seem to be dealing with on an increasing basis.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:40:07pm

re: #34 Kilroy was here

I get it. But, wow. Super harsh. Are you GenX?

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austin_blue  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:42:22pm

And I’m off for the rack. It’s Pride Month. It’s especially important right now to defend people who cannot defend themselves.

If you see it happening, be sure to punch the asshole in the nose. Hard.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:44:01pm

This afternoon my friend Bob and I were talking on the phone about ocean voyages. He mentioned the raft Kon-Tiki’s voyage across the Pacific in the 40s, but could not remember the name of the guy who sailed it.
I reminded him it was Thor Heyerdahl. Well, this evening he posted this message on Facebook:


He has not posted anything remotely related to this subject before this. If it pops up on my feed, I am going to freak out.
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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:44:13pm

Buckethead played “Rhiannon” by Fleetwood Mack last night in Denver. What a weird night!

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:46:06pm

Mastodon

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:47:29pm

I love it when I can’t stop thinking about a live performance after I’ve seen it.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:48:02pm

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:57:55pm

The D-Day flight made two re-enactment parachute drops over Normandy today. As I’ve mentioned several times, “That’s All Brother” (AF 42-92847) is the actual aircraft that led the airborne assault on D-Day. It is probably the most historic single aircraft in existence, not ignoring the Wright Flyer and the Spirit of Saint Louis. It should have a place of honor in the National Air and Space Museum.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 2, 2024 • 8:58:50pm

trump sticker jumpsuit

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 2, 2024 • 9:01:12pm

trump jumpsuit

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 2, 2024 • 9:32:40pm

Summer is officially here for us here in the Northshore of Chicago. :)))

First Sunday Funday of 2024

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JC1  Jun 2, 2024 • 9:58:22pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2024 • 10:03:40pm

Second SBC pastor implicated in ‘conspiracy’ to destroy evidence in federal abuse inquiry (The Tennessean (May 29, 2024)

[the abuse they dance around in the article is sexual abuse]

A Florida pastor, during his tenure as an administrator at a top Southern Baptist seminary, instructed another seminary employee to make a document about an abuse report “go away,” according to court records.

The records, filed by federal prosecutors and unsealed last week, came to light amid an ongoing U.S. Department of Justice investigation into aspects of the Southern Baptist Convention and how the SBC and its affiliated entities handled reports of abuse.

The records on the Florida pastor, who prosecutors didn’t identify, are part of the case against North Carolina pastor Matt Queen, also former administrator at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas, who is accused of falsifying records in an attempt to cover up an abuse report. In a news release last week, FBI Assistant Director James Smith said Queen was part of a “conspiracy to destroy evidence related to the ongoing investigation of sexual misconduct.”

The Florida pastor, who served as the seminary’s chief of staff at the time, is Heath Woolman, currently the lead pastor of Fruit Cove Baptist Church in St. Johns, Florida, according to two people familiar with the events outlined by federal prosecutors and an analysis of records from Woolman’s tenure at Southwestern.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2024 • 10:36:33pm

Elections all over the world today. Mexico is set to elect a woman regardless of which party wins. India’s Narenda Modi is set for a landslide victory, causing a jump in India’s Nifty 50 stock index to jump.

Czechia’s ANO leads EU election polls with conservative coalition close behind (Euractiv, June 3, 2024)

The populist movement of former prime minister Andrej Babiš, ANO (Renew), is set to win the EU elections in Czechia with 23.1% of the vote, while the conservative coalition of Prime Minister Petr Fiala, Spolu (EPP+ECR), is in second place with 21.5%, new polls show.

Both ANO, the largest opposition party in the country, and Spolu would secure six seats each in the new European Parliament, according to the May election model by the STEM agency for CNN Prima News.

According to STEM, the liberal STAN (Independent) would win 10.3% of the vote and three seats. The far-right coalition of Freedom and Direct Democracy and Trikolora (ID) would come fourth with 9.5%, closely followed by the Pirates (Greens/EFA) with 9.4% and two seats each. The far-left coalition Stačilo! (The Left) would get 8.1% of the vote and two seats.

(more)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 2, 2024 • 11:25:49pm

Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo, the new Mexican President, is a woman, Jewish, and a scientist with a PhD in energy engineering. Impressive resume but a nightmare position for anyone elected to lead that nation, with its level of violence and crime. Wishing her well.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2024 • 11:42:51pm

Mexico’s election has been called.

Claudia Sheinbaum Makes History, as First Woman Elected to Lead Mexico (New York Times, unlocked article, with audio 8:49)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2024 • 11:53:27pm

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ms. Sheinbaum is a Nobel Peace Prize winner, a climate scientist who has worked with the United Nations on climate strategy, and former mayor of Mexico City. She is also the first Jewish person elected to the Presidency in the majority-Catholic country.

She defeated a candidate backed by a coalition of conservative parties.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 2, 2024 • 11:55:10pm

re: #51 Hecuba’s daughter

You beat me by about twenty minutes.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 3, 2024 • 12:13:05am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 12:16:45am

re: #55 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Enjoy your hubris Mr. Walsh: Insane itching for two weeks.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 12:20:16am

Free link at the New York Times, with audio reader (11:34) on the fascinating recovery of a previously-forgotten slave narrative.

A Furious, Forgotten Slave Narrative Resurfaces After Nearly 170 Years

“John S. Jacobs was a fugitive, an abolitionist — and the brother of the canonical author Harriet Jacobs. Now, his own fierce autobiography has re-emerged.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 12:33:26am

re: #4 Patricia Kayden

His fans don’t love him despite him being a boorish arrogant misogynist racist xenophobic. barely literate bastard, they love him because he is a boorish arrogant misogynist racist xenophobic, barely literate bastard.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2024 • 12:43:15am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 1:18:02am

re: #59 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This had the potential to go really bad, but I lucked out. 3/6

I came at it from a completely different direction from you, and wound up with a 4/6.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 1:38:09am

We here at Chez Tumbleweed are planning a September trip.

This one is to go to PolishFest in Ashton, Nebr. (It’s been a few years since we went.)

The directions are pretty simple: East on NE-92 from here to the other side of the state.

visitnebraska.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 1:40:04am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We here at Chez Tumbleweed are planning a September trip.

This one is to go to PolishFest in Ashton, Nebr. (It’s been a few years since we went.)

The directions are pretty simple: East on NE-92 from here to the other side of the state.

visitnebraska.com

Polish-Brazilian crossover restaurant: Kielbasa Nova

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 1:42:50am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Polish-Brazilian crossover restaurant: Kielbasa Nova

::P

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 1:44:57am

Croatian-Chinese crossover: Cevapcic and Chong

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 1:47:50am

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Free link at the New York Times, with audio reader (11:34) on the fascinating recovery of a previously-forgotten slave narrative.

A Furious, Forgotten Slave Narrative Resurfaces After Nearly 170 Years

“John S. Jacobs was a fugitive, an abolitionist — and the brother of the canonical author Harriet Jacobs. Now, his own fierce autobiography has re-emerged.”

Part of the anti-CRT legislation in GOP school districts is that schools cannot teach from personal memoirs as they are too “historically biased”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 1:50:31am

A tale of two consumers (Robert Reich)

Those are lower and higher income people.

Higher income people (the top 10% who own the disproportionate amount of stock and have little credit card debt) benefit far more from stock buybacks than the vast majority of the country.

Lower income people survive on wages (which rarely increase vis inflation).

Corporations have raked in record profits by raising prices and shifting the blame to inflation.

Thus businesses which rely on low-income customers are doing poorly now, whilst those relying on wealthy customers (hospitality, airlines, &c) are booming.

Even Walmart is shifting to higher-income consumers. Over the past three years, households earning over $100,000 have provided the biggest gains in Walmart’s market share. Its merchandise now includes AirPods, MacBook Air, and other items that “appeal to a high-income demographic,” according to John David Rainey, Walmart’s chief financial officer. “The more we move into that space … the more we’re going to retain this cohort.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 2:12:07am

Huffington Post, June 2, 2024

Kevin McCarthy Wants Matt Gaetz ‘Convicted’ Over ‘Underage Women’

“The former House speaker uses some of his strongest words yet against his GOP arch-rival.”

Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) called for the prosecution and conviction of Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla) on Sunday.

“I just don’t think Gaetz is a conservative,” McCarthy said on CNN when asked why he’s supporting Gaetz’s primary opponent. “If you think about it, if there’s anybody who should go to trial, I mean, Gaetz is one who should be convicted in a trial.”

“Why? asked CNN’s Manu Raju. “Why do you say that?”

“We all know the challenge here,” McCarthy said. “You can’t sleep with underage women and think you can get away with it.”

“He denies that,” Raju pointed out.

“Well, the women don’t,” McCarthy said. “And so there’s people in jail because of it.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 2:15:11am

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“I just don’t think Gaetz is a conservative,” McCarthy said

No True Conservative seeks underage women, eh?

What about all the fundamentalists who want to have women married and having babies once said young women hit puberty?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 2:22:50am

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

No True Conservative seeks underage women, eh?

What about all the fundamentalists who want to have women married and having babies once said young women hit puberty?

Last night my wife watched a documentary (I couldn’t: I had to put on noise-cancelling headphones due to my own religious trauma) of a Christian pastor (Pentecostal) who was convicted of raping girls as young as eight. He’s a big fan of repealing age-of-consent laws, calling them an affront to God and improper meddling by the government in religion.

Even in court, he testified that it’s not rape and he didn’t understand why the state would go after a sixty-eight year-old man, since the Bible clearly states a woman is defined when she has her menses. He was sentenced to 175 years in prison, to be consecutively served.

His wife was also convicted and sent to federal prison: She died after a few months after contracting Covid-19.

Parents of the children (now adults) have all disowned their children, because they brought dishonour on their church’s congregation. (The church still exists and has branches in several states.)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2024 • 2:31:29am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

What shows was this?

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2024 • 2:31:41am

Oh joy, power outage at the hotel. This is going to be so much fun this morning as people wake up and the lights and TV’s don’t work! Bleah!

And of course Xcel Energy has no clue how long it will be.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 2:34:19am

All Nebraska Panhandle weather reporting sites are still down.

Current conditions at
Sidney, Sidney Municipal Airport (KSNY)
Lat: 41.1°NLon: 102.99°WElev: 4311ft.

N/A

Humidity NA
Wind Speed NA
Barometer NA
Dewpoint N/A
Visibility NA
Last update *** Not a current observation ***

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 2:38:55am

re: #70 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What shows was this?

“Ministry of Evil: The Twisted Cult of Tony Alamo”

(By the way, the church also owns Alamo trucking firm).

Dive deep into the cult you’ve never heard of. Ministry of Evil chronicles the life and crimes of televangelist turned cult-leader Tony Alamo. By skirting the law and enforcing a code of silence among their followers, Tony and his wife Susan came to wield unimaginable power, becoming millionaires on the backs of their believers.

amazon.com (view on Amazon Prime, five episodes, forty-three minutes each)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 2:43:04am

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The show “Seeking Sister Wife” on TLC had a person on named Becky Ryan. She was raised in Alamo’s church and sees nothing wrong with polygamy with children.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 2:46:42am

The Alliance weather reporting station is up now.

It’s 47°F / 8°Commie now.

We’re in that part of the year where we run the air conditioner in the day and the furnace at night.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 2:49:35am

Matt Novak @paleofuture.bsky.social
*
4h
I was reading about how the restaurant chain Rubio’s was closing a bunch of locations and blaming California’s new minimum wage law for fast food workers.

So I did a quick search for Rubio’s with the term “private equity” and you’re never going to believe this but…. yes you will believe it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 2:53:57am

Congresswoman Sheila Lee Jackson (D-TX18) announced she has pancreatic cancer on Sunday.

‘I stand in faith:’ Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee announces pancreatic cancer diagnosis (KPRC-TV, Houston)

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No Malarkey!  Jun 3, 2024 • 3:03:56am

Trump’s July 11 sentencing hearing is going to be very interesting. On the one hand, a first time non-violent low-level felon wouldn’t normally receive any time. On the other hand, Trump is expressing zero remorse, spewing lies about the judge, the prosecutors and the Biden Administration’s role in the prosecution (it had none), and making vague threats that his cult “won’t stand for it.” Any other criminal defendant acting this way would IMHO almost certainly be getting jail time unless found to be mentally incompetent. Trump is virtually daring Judge Merchan to sentence him to prison because 1) he can fund raise off of it and 2) he believes the sentence will be stayed pending his appeal, and if he wins in November he’ll never serve any time. I don’t know what Judge Merchan should do here; I do know that Trump is the most dangerous man in America, he should be behind bars, and he is straining our democratic institutions to the breaking point.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 3:04:00am

Free link at the New York Times, June 2, 2024

The third human case of H5N1, reported on Thursday in a farmworker in Michigan who was experiencing respiratory symptoms, tells us that the current bird flu situation is at a dangerous inflection point.

The virus is adapting in predictable ways that increase its risk to humans, reflecting our failure to contain it early on. The solutions to this brewing crisis — such as comprehensive testing — have been there all along, and they’re becoming only more important. If we keep ignoring the warning signs we have only ourselves to blame.

H5N1 has long been more than a bird problem. The virus has found its way into dairy cattle across nine states, affecting 69 herds that we know about. Of the three human cases of H5N1 that have been identified, all involve farmworkers who were in direct contact with infected cows or milk. The first two cases were relatively mild, involving symptoms like eye irritation, or conjunctivitis. However, the most recent case has shown more concerning signs, including coughing.

The emergence of respiratory symptoms is disconcerting because it indicates a potential shift in how the virus affects humans. Coughing can spread viruses more easily than eye irritation can.

New symptoms should be expected as the virus continues to spread and adapt to humans. Yet our response to this looming danger has been woefully inadequate, particularly in the area of testing.

(more)

Why the New Human Case of Bird Flu Is So Alarming

(Opinion piece by Dr. Rick Bright, a virologist and former head of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority.)

As you might recall from recent history, SARS-CoV 2 started in the USA as one case.

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Axolotl  Jun 3, 2024 • 3:15:48am

re: #16 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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No Malarkey!  Jun 3, 2024 • 3:19:31am

With Trump’s sentencing hearing coming just days before the GOP Convention to nominate him for President, everyone will be watching him to see what he says when his opportunity comes to make a statement to the judge. Will Trump admit his wrongdoing,
express remorse and ask the judge for no jail time? (LOL, no). Will Trump express to Judge Merchan’s face the lies he has been spewing in public to demonstrate his defiance of the “Crooked Biden Administration?” I don’t see how Judge Merchan can’t sentence Trump to at least some time in that event, so maybe Trump will be a bit chicken and waive his opportunity to make a statement, which seems like the wisest course since expressing remorse is definitely off the table.

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Teukka  Jun 3, 2024 • 3:20:40am

re: #80 Axolotl

Traffic signs are rigged

They probably believed this conspiracy theory…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 3:32:46am

The Sandhills Tropical Update.

Staying Ahead of the Storm: 2024 CoreLogic Hurricane Risk Report (CoreLogic, a data analytics firm)

In the 2024 Hurricane Risk Report, CoreLogic identified that across the U.S. Gulf Coast and East Coast:

Over 32.7 million residential properties, with a total reconstruction cost value of $10.8 trillion, are at moderate or greater risk of hurricane wind damage.
Approximately 7.7 million properties, with a reconstruction cost value of $2.3 trillion, are at risk of storm surge flooding.

(more)

That’s “trillions” of dollars.

La Niña conditions are cooler waters in the Tropics in the Pacific with warmer waters in the Atlantic, the current setup. This causes less wind shear from the Pacific into the Gulf of Mexico, allowing more Atlantic storms to develop whilst suppressing Pacific storms due to cooler waters. (The opposite occurs during El Niño conditions.)

Currently, the National Hurricane Center only has one area of interest, a tropical wave off the south coast of Mexico. They give it a 20% chance of development over seven days while it trucks west away from land.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 3:33:25am

re: #71 William Lewis

Oh joy, power outage at the hotel. This is going to be so much fun this morning as people wake up and the lights and TV’s don’t work! Bleah!

And of course Xcel Energy has no clue how long it will be.

Yeah, I was awakened at 1:30, 3:30, and 4:30 this AM by rounds of powerful thunderstorms sweeping through the fishbowl. Even now, we’re getting steady rain and seeing the lightning from this storm’s center, some ten to twenty miles to my south.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2024 • 3:36:30am

Today’s random recognition of Karma points goes to Axolotl, currently at 2,060.

Axolotl has been a member of the site since 2016.

You’ll need to up that posting rate if you wish to pick a prize from the LGF catalogue.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 3:36:58am

With an opening like that, the beagle wasn’t too far behind, though there were other options.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 3:45:17am

Trump sticker conjugal

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 3, 2024 • 3:46:38am

Mondaze morning drive time music!!!

Lava La Rue - Push N Shuv (Official)

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No Malarkey!  Jun 3, 2024 • 3:50:52am

re: #87 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2024 • 4:19:04am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Once again, if I could actually execute a few people to make a statement, it would be the people who have done this “debt for equity swap” to so many companies, like ToysRUs.

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2024 • 4:21:02am

re: #78 No Malarkey!

I think the answer is to treat him like Martha Stewart, throw him in jail, and let donors give him money to pay his legal bills rather than to the Republican party.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 4:21:54am

re: #91 Belafon

I think the answer is to treat him like Martha Stewart, throw him in jail, and let donors give him money to pay his legal bills rather than to the Republican party.

I mean, to be fair, right now, those two are essentially equivalent. The GOP isn’t spending hardly any money anywhere other than the ever-growing sinkhole that is Donald J. Trump’s legal defense fund.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 3, 2024 • 4:26:39am

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Alliance weather reporting station is up now.

It’s 47°F / 8°Commie now.

We’re in that part of the year where we run the air conditioner in the day and the furnace at night.

Maple sap flowing season

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 4:29:09am

Another set with too many possibilities.
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 4:33:51am

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

No True Conservative seeks underage women, eh?

What about all the fundamentalists who want to have women married and having babies once said young women hit puberty?

They make an exception for statutory rape within the bounds of Holy Matrimony.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 3, 2024 • 4:35:24am

re: #86 Nerdy Fish

With an opening like that, the beagle wasn’t too far behind, though there were other options.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 4:35:42am

re: #82 Teukka

They probably believed this conspiracy theory…

Traffic lights are unnecessary government interference in our Freedom of Travel. Right of way at iIntersections should be determined by the one with the largest and most imposing vehicle.

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2024 • 4:37:11am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Traffic lights are unnecessary government interference in our Freedom of Travel. Right of way at iIntersections should be determined by the one with the largest and most imposing vehicle.

Why can’t I drive across your yard?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 4:41:06am

re: #98 Belafon

Why can’t I drive across your yard?

you can, but I have the right to plant a minefield

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2024 • 4:42:47am

Correct me if I am wrong, but don’t stairwells have to have battery powered emergency lights for when the power is off???? THIS PLACE DOESN’T!

Not cool.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:03:30am

re: #37 austin_blue

Nah. I go for the gonads. If someone needs punching I go for the nuts.

Humans don’t have the reflexes to guard against this and even fewer have the training.

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:10:13am

re: #78 No Malarkey!

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1) he can fund raise off of it and 2) he believes the sentence will be stayed pending his appeal, and if he wins in November he’ll never serve any time…
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1) not a consideration*
2) not a consideration

The judge should follow the law.
The felon guy should be evaluated and treated exactly the same as any other person would be.

There is absolutely nothing about him that makes his situation special or “extenuating”.

Not that he was president
Not that he claims to have a lot of money
Not that he has a big mouth.

This is about the crime, the charges and the verdict.

* I wonder if anyone has consider the notoriety-for-profit law. First amendment plus elections it could be thorny

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:11:11am

There was also a report that Herschel Walker, their failed senatorial candidate from Georgia is still sitting on a $4 million campaign fun account and not sharing a penny of it with the bankrupt Georgia GOP.

Hilarious

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:12:09am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s a gloriously sunny late spring day with temps in the mid 80s. I got to attend my first concert since pre-covid, and it was a pretty good show. Jon Anderson and the Band Geeks. Wasn’t quite sure what to expect, but Jon’s voice is still pretty good. He did a bunch of old and deeper cuts, but only downside is there was no encore, and prior shows apparently had him do Owner of a Lonely Heart.

Oh well. It was still good to get out and attend a concert, especially since it was like the first true date night with the mrs since we had the little dumplin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:12:26am

re: #102 Dangerman

They have to get the sentence so that it does not get sent all the way for SCOTUS for appeal, because we know how they are gonna rule.

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:12:47am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was also a report that Herschel Walker, their failed senatorial candidate from Georgia is still sitting on a $4 million campaign fun account and not sharing a penny of it with the bankrupt Georgia GOP.

Hilarious

Yeah he’s making that decision

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Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:13:26am

Shake up at WaPo.
1st I’ve seen of it.

NEW YORK (AP) — The Washington Post said Sunday that its executive editor, Sally Buzbee, has stepped down after three years at the top of one of journalism’s most storied brands.

She will be replaced by Matt Murray, former editor-in-chief of The Wall Street Journal, until this fall’s presidential election. Following that, Robert Winnett, currently deputy editor of the Telegraph Media Group, will take over as editor following the election.

No reason was given for Buzbee’s departure.

Buzbee, former top editor at The Associated Press, was announced in May of 2021 as the replacement for Martin Baron.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:13:53am

re: #106 Dangerman

Yeah he’s making that decision

He can’t spend it on himself personally, but according to the report, he has donated large sums to charities, etc. Just not to the GOP.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:14:38am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Car Wars.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:15:47am

re: #109 Romantic Heretic

Car Wars.

Turn every city into a figure-8 demolition derby!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:17:22am

re: #102 Dangerman

There are a couple of things that the judge possibly will consider:

1) the number of civil judgements against Trump, speaking of his character;
2) his age.

The latter might get him relocated to whatever facilities NY has for elderly prisoners?

I can also imagine that a state doctor (for the prison system) recommend Trump be located in a facility for watching impaired prisoners.

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:17:38am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They have to get the sentence so that it does not get sent all the way for SCOTUS for appeal, because we know how they are gonna rule.

There has to be an obvious and profound constitutional issue for scotus to get involved in a state case. Not just cause the guy’s a loudmouth. And I think that’s only after the state appeals process is done with it.

Never gonna happen.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:20:42am

Senior Living Program

The Senior Living Program (SLP) is a unique and innovative program designed to meet the needs of older male incarcerated population. The SLP participants reside in one housing unit to facilitate the community setting. A computer lab, classrooms, meeting rooms, recreation/exercise rooms, and staff offices have all been designed and built in the same unit. SLP residents participate in programs together to develop cohesive, pro-social skills to prepare them well for community reentry.

To be eligible, all candidates must:

be 55 years of age or older

be within two to six years of their earliest release date,

be eligible for transfer to Ulster Correctional Facility

not have any current refusals of required programs,

not have Tier 3 disciplinary infractions within the past 12 months,

have completed SOCTP when a sex offender counseling need has been established

The SLP is a minimum of two years long and candidates must agree to actively participate in all required aspects of the program. The SLP strives to facilitate a safe and stable environment in which positive peer interaction and group processes will prepare incarcerated individuals for successful re-entry into society.

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:21:30am

Duplicate post

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Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:23:51am

re: #113 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

A lot of non-offender veterans live under bridges.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:27:04am

re: #115 Decatur Deb

A lot of non-offender veterans live under bridges.

In a van? Down by the river?

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:27:40am

re: #80 Axolotl

Traffic signs are rigged

Bacharach has exactly one traffic light that only turns red if you approach it at speeds above 50km/h or if a pedestrian wants to cross.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:28:11am

re: #116 Targetpractice

In a van? Down by the river?

//

The lucky ones have a van.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:33:34am

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:35:56am

Here’s what I expect the judge to do:

Give Trump the smallest sentence above zero.

I suspect the judge will not give zero because there are 34 convictions.

But maybe give Trump one month per conviction?

And with Conditional Release, Trump could be out of the slammer in less than a year?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:37:54am

‘Religion is Such a Great Thing!’ Trump Gushes Over Evangelical Support Even After Porn Star Hush Money Convictions

Of course since Mr. Depends grants every wish of his Pulpit Pimp Posse.

Former President Donald Trump praised religion in the context of continued Evangelical support despite his convictions on conspiring to hide hush money payments to a porn star with whom he is alleged to have had an extramarital affair.

Trump sat with the co-hosts of Fox & Friends Weekend on Sunday — making news for falsely claiming that he never said “Lock her up!” with regards to his former political rival, Hillary Clinton. (He did.)

On Monday, Fox & Friends aired additional parts of the interview in which he took questions submitted by Fox News viewers, the last of which was from “Sharon from Alabama.” Rachel Campos Duffy read the question to Trump: “You’ve been faced with so much adversity and persecution for years. What’s your relationship with God like and how do you pray? “

Former President Donald Trump praised religion in the context of continued Evangelical support despite his convictions on conspiring to hide hush money payments to a porn star with whom he is alleged to have had an extramarital affair.

Trump sat with the co-hosts of Fox & Friends Weekend on Sunday — making news for falsely claiming that he never said “Lock her up!” with regards to his former political rival, Hillary Clinton. (He did.)

On Monday, Fox & Friends aired additional parts of the interview in which he took questions submitted by Fox News viewers, the last of which was from “Sharon from Alabama.” Rachel Campos Duffy read the question to Trump: “You’ve been faced with so much adversity and persecution for years. What’s your relationship with God like and how do you pray? “

And the bullshit goes on and on and on…

mediaite.com

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:38:39am

*sigh*

Tories will allow bars on trans women, says Kemi Badenoch

— Unofficial Guardian (World) Bot (@guardian-world-rss.bsky.social) 2024-06-02T22:22:02.799959+00:00

Tories continuing to try to adopt US-style conservative hate in a desperate bid to win back the loonies to their side.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:41:01am

re: #120 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The other option is for the judge to put Trump on a long probation, warning that any violation puts Trump in prison. And maybe some community service?

I don’t know what to put odds on that: let’s just say 50%.

The other 50% I’ll put down to say 90 days or so, wherever NY stashes their old prisoners.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:41:53am

re: #120 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Here’s what I expect the judge to do:

Give Trump the smallest sentence above zero.

I suspect the judge will not give zero because there are 34 convictions.

But maybe give Trump one month per conviction?

And with Conditional Release, Trump could be out of the slammer in less than a year?

I don’t expect that he will serve time, house arrest at most.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:42:43am

Stormy to Melania—DUMP HIM!

Just days after Donald Trump’s conviction on business fraud charges in New York, Stormy Daniels is urging his wife Melania to leave the former president—but not for the reasons many might think. “I don’t know what their agreement may or may not be, but Melania needs to leave him. Not because of what he did with me or other women but because he is a convicted felon,” she told U.K. tabloid The Mirror Sunday. “It’s been proven he is abusive; he was found liable for sexual assault and tax fraud and is now a criminal. He’s neither Teflon Don nor Teflon Con anymore.” The former adult film star also speculated that Melania chose not to attend even a single day of Trump’s trial to avoid exposing Barron to the scandalous information being revealed and the dangerous atmosphere of the courthouse. “I would not want to expose my children to that dangerous environment,” Daniels said. “You know, if it was the other way around, even if I wanted to support my spouse or my family member, I would choose the safety and privacy of my child over attending court.” Melania has not spoken publicly following the trial—though Trump weighed in on her state of mind Sunday in an interview on Fox News, saying that the past week has been “very hard” on her. “She’s fine, but I think it’s very hard for her,” Trump said. “I mean, she’s fine. But she has to read all this crap.”

thedailybeast.com

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Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:43:07am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

House arrest will not discourage the others.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:48:57am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t expect that he will serve time, house arrest at most.

Possibly. But for how long? One week per conviction? One month per conviction?

Given Trump has a rap sheet of civil judgements, and has publicly shown no remorse for those actions that led to the civil judgements, what judge would not at least require some controls to be on the guilty?

re: #126 Decatur Deb

House arrest will not discourage the others.

House arrest will not discourage Trump from continuing to commit crimes. The judge has to know this.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:52:32am

Mastodon

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:53:18am

My sense of Judge Merchan sentencing Trump is that while Trump is a first time convicted felon, his long history of criminal conduct in NY and malfeasance, including the Trump Org conviction on business fraud, will come into play. While some people have suggested Trump will not see jail, I do think it’s likely he’s going to spend at least some time in prison.

Why? Because there are numerous and significant cases of business fraud leading to prison sentences, even for first time offenders.

Trump has shown a reckless disregard for facts, truth, and lies to the public about everything relating to the case (see the claim that he didn’t know what the charges even were, even though while under oath, he stated to the court that he did). He’s attacked the fundamental and bedrock principles of the criminal justice system, violated gag order repeatedly, putting officers of the court in jeopardy, putting jurors in jeopardy, and his actions warrant prison.

I think he’s going to spend a year in prison. That will probably be due to 34 counts of 1 year in prison, served concurrently. I do not think that he gets more than a year in prison, but he could get some combination of terms to result in jail time.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:54:33am

re: #82 Teukka

Don’t tell Convicted Felon Trump and this one:


Dihydrogen monoxide:

is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.

contributes to the “greenhouse effect”.

may cause severe burns.

contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.

accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.

may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.

has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant in nuclear power plants.

in the production of styrofoam.

as a fire retardant.

in many forms of cruel animal research.

in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.

as an additive in certain food products

Fun fact: EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS INGESTED Dihydrogen Monoxide has died, or will eventually die.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:55:48am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t expect that he will serve time, house arrest at most.

Someone said “You manage the situation with a double-wide behind the fence at Rikers.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:57:54am

Just the mere thought of Spongebrain Shitpants in the Slammer…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 5:58:13am

re: #129 lawhawk

I’ve been thinking that given the civil judgement against Trump Org, even though the appeals court lowered the judgement value and stayed the bans, that now that Trump has been judged guilty of felony crimes using his business the only thing judge Merchan can do is make sure that Trump is unable to commit similar crimes with his business while serving whatever sentence.

Does this mean banning Trump from being involved in his businesses while Trump is serving some sort of probation?

House arrest will likely lead to a Galileo-complex by Trump, with him giving daily interviews from his Tower about how he is unfairly imprisoned in New York. This will be a fiasco in the first degree.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:00:02am

re: #133 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That’s why I don’t think he’s getting house arrest. He’s going to jail. The administration of justice demands it, and he is not entitled to run for any office. That was a choice he made, just as committing felonies in furtherance of his political ambitions was his choice.

These are the consequences.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:02:01am

Bimborella’s latest.

Marjorie Taylor Greene to push ‘defund New York’ plan in wake of Trump verdict

According to Politico, “Greene is planning to reinvigorate her push to defund special counsel Jack Smith as part of the appropriations process, we’re told — despite Speaker Mike Johnson telling Playbook last month that he thinks the idea is unworkable. But Greene won’t stop there. She’s planning a push to ‘defund New York’ by blocking the state from receiving any federal funds — including things like education and housing — an effort that could pick up support from MAGA hardliners.”

rawstory.com

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:02:41am

I am also hoping Democrats pick up on the fact that as a convicted felon Trump would never be able to get a security clearance to any of the documents that would cross the desk in the WH.

I hope Democrats hammer home fact that Trump is a convicted felon who was found guilty, not by the judge, but by a jury of New Yorkers - New Yorkers who have managed to see crime rates at multidecade lows under the current administration and NYPD, rates far lower than under notable right wing nutjob Rudy Giuliani (who was out there claiming that the city has gone to shit since he and Bloomberg left office).

It’s gone to shit for the criminals and seditionists. Crime rates are at multidecade lows. Getting Trump off the street will make it safer for all Americans. Getting Rudy off the street will make it safe for landscapers at the Four Seasons.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:05:40am

re: #134 lawhawk

Granted we think Trump deserves prison time.

But what will the judge think?

Trump has judgements against him going back at least to 1988.

Given a long history of what can only be described as incorrigible behavior, what precedents exist in NY for judges weighing civil cases in a felony conviction sentencing?

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:05:45am

In imposing a sentence of jail/incarceration, how much of the judge’s job is the specifics of where and how?

How much is up to the corrections department to figure out the logistics?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:07:09am

‘I’m Too Anxious’: Trump Opens Up About His Lack of Sleep and Morning Routine

No you’re not Spongebrain Shitpants.

“So I don’t sleep a lot,” Trump replied. “I don’t say that as a badge of courage. You know, a lot of people are ‘I don’t sleep, and oh,’ and they maybe do.”

“I rarely eat breakfast. I don’t … it’s funny. I love food, but I don’t necessarily — I’m too anxious,” he continued. “I really enjoy life. It’s crazy. I shouldn’t enjoy life — I get indicted, I get impeached, I get… somebody said, ‘How do you live?’” to which the Fox & Friends Weekend co-hosts all laughed.

mediaite.com

Bullshit. We know Fatso Forgoty fills up his gut with half a dozen Super Sized meals for lunch.

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:07:12am

re: #133 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I’ve been thinking that given the civil judgement against Trump Org, even though the appeals court lowered the judgement value and stayed the bans, that now that Trump has been judged guilty of felony crimes using his business the only thing judge Merchan can do is make sure that Trump is unable to commit similar crimes with his business while serving whatever sentence.

Does this mean banning Trump from being involved in his businesses while Trump is serving some sort of probation?

House arrest will likely lead to a Galileo-complex by Trump, with him giving daily interviews from his Tower about how he is unfairly imprisoned in New York. This will be a fiasco in the first degree.

Could house arrest include like no Internet and who he can or can’t see or talk to? It’s house arrest. It’s supposed to be restrictive.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:08:07am

re: #135 Joe Bacon ✅

Sure. Let’s remove all federal funding from the central hub of the entire East Coast, the most populous city in the entire United States, where many powerful and influential people make their home (and benefit significantly from those federal dollars), all because one fucking guy got prosecuted for a little light business fraud.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:10:50am

re: #129 lawhawk

My sense of Judge Merchan sentencing Trump is that while Trump is a first time convicted felon, his long history of criminal conduct in NY and malfeasance, including the Trump Org conviction on business fraud, will come into play. While some people have suggested Trump will not see jail, I do think it’s likely he’s going to spend at least some time in prison.

Why? Because there are numerous and significant cases of business fraud leading to prison sentences, even for first time offenders.

Trump has shown a reckless disregard for facts, truth, and lies to the public about everything relating to the case (see the claim that he didn’t know what the charges even were, even though while under oath, he stated to the court that he did). He’s attacked the fundamental and bedrock principles of the criminal justice system, violated gag order repeatedly, putting officers of the court in jeopardy, putting jurors in jeopardy, and his actions warrant prison.

I think he’s going to spend a year in prison. That will probably be due to 34 counts of 1 year in prison, served concurrently. I do not think that he gets more than a year in prison, but he could get some combination of terms to result in jail time.

I’m just imaging the usual “My client is a good boy” speech that whichever poor sod that pulls the short straw is gonna have to give to Judge Merchan. You know the speech: “My client’s got strong ties to the city (which he avoids like the plague since leaving office), that he’s done so much for it (by fucking over every contractor and supplier within it), that he’s a successful businessman (which is why he was fined an historic amount for accounting fraud), and no criminal record (because he’s spent decades buying everybody off). So the court should take all that into account, as well as good behavior (hey, no laughing in the back) during the course of the trial in imposing the lightest sentence possible.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:11:05am

re: #140 Dangerman

Could house arrest include like no Internet and who he can or can’t see or talk to? It’s house arrest. It’s supposed to be restrictive.

I don’t know how NY defines house arrest.

Presumably even under the strictest conditions Trump will be able to receive visitors.

Limiting Trump from traveling outside of NYS while under house arrest is one thing. But that won’t keep people from coming to him.

Whether Trump’s actions wrt raping women is enough to ban all computer interaction and media interaction I do not know.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:11:26am

Meanwhile in the Senate Moscow Mike Lee threatens to shut down the Senate.

WHAT TO WATCH ON THE HILL: A day after the verdict came down, Sen. MIKE LEE (R-Utah) led the Senate’s hard-core MAGA bloc in vowing to muck up the chamber’s business in protest of the convictions. Ten of them now say, “we are unwilling to aid and abet this White House in its project to tear this country apart” and will thus oppose and deny unanimous consent for Democratic legislation and confirmations.

Democrats are downplaying this threat, arguing that (1) most must-pass legislation is already taken care of for the year and (2) this isn’t exactly the “governing caucus” to begin with — many conservatives are already well-known for holding up Senate business.

But a closer look at the calendar suggests the effort could indeed cause Majority Leader CHUCK SCHUMER some headaches — particularly for nominations. So far this year, about half of non-military and non-Foreign Service nominees have been confirmed by voice vote, which requires agreement from all 100 senators and skips time-consuming procedural steps.

If the MAGA senators make good on their threats, Schumer could be forced to trudge through cloture votes and debate, eating up precious floor time that he might prefer to expend on election-year messaging bills such the contraception legislation he’s planning to bring up this week. And remember: The calendar is already slimmed down for election season.

politico.com

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Dangerman  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:11:35am

Nine witnesses in the criminal cases against former President Donald Trump have received significant financial benefits, including large raises from his campaign, severance packages, new jobs, and a grant of shares and cash from Trump’s media company,” ProPublica reports.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:11:36am

re: #131 Dave In Austin

Someone said “You manage the situation with a double-wide behind the fence at Rikers.

Napoleon’s digs on St. Helena

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:11:45am

If Martha Stewart had to go to prison, why not Trump?

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:13:48am

re: #142 Targetpractice

I’m just imaging the usual “My client is a good boy” speech that whichever poor sod that pulls the short straw is gonna have to give to Judge Merchan. You know the speech: “My client’s got strong ties to the city (which he avoids like the plague since leaving office), that he’s done so much for it (by fucking over every contractor and supplier within it), that he’s a successful businessman (which is why he was fined an historic amount for accounting fraud), and no criminal record (because he’s spent decades buying everybody off). So the court should take all that into account, as well as good behavior (hey, no laughing in the back) during the course of the trial in imposing the lightest sentence possible.”

It’s not going to be that. It’s going to be, “You have no authority to imprison the next President of the United States! Think of the consequences when he wins re-election! This is illegal election interference, and we’ll appeal this sentence all the way to our friends in SCOTUS unless you go easy on him!”

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Nojay UK  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:14:05am

re: #136 lawhawk

I am also hoping Democrats pick up on the fact that as a convicted felon Trump would never be able to get a security clearance to any of the documents that would cross the desk in the WH

The US President is an elected king, not a civil servant. They get all the clearances they want regardless of their history before they are sworn into office on a cold January day in Washington DC. After that the only limitation they face on their absolute rule for the next four years is impeachment by Congress.

Sure it’s a bad idea but the Founding Fathers were working with a limited toolbox and they went with an elected king.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:15:45am

re: #148 Nerdy Fish

I should qualify: What you said is what a lawyer SHOULD say to a judge, in order to get the best chance at a lighter sentence. But Trump, the client, is not going to let them say that. His pride won’t let them. He is going to push hard for them to emphasize how he is going to be President next year, and then the judge will be sorry, if he sentences Trump to prison.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:16:28am

re: #132 Joe Bacon ✅

Just the mere thought of Spongebrain Shitpants in the Slammer…

There is a meme machine up top ya know.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:17:02am

re: #137 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Granted we think Trump deserves prison time.

But what will the judge think?

Trump has judgements against him going back at least to 1988.

Given a long history of what can only be described as incorrigible behavior, what precedents exist in NY for judges weighing civil cases in a felony conviction sentencing?

Everything about this is unprecedented, but the judge will look at all facts and aspects to the behavior of Trump. State sentencing guidelines require a presentecing report from both defendant and the prosecutors, and victim statement (the state of NY), plus Trump family/friends who can weigh in as well.

Trump faces collateral consequences of the felony conviction too.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:18:40am

re: #47 JC1

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Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:19:00am

re: #152 lawhawk

The judge was forced to put up with Trump’s obnoxious shit for a month. I trust his judgement.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:19:47am

re: #148 Nerdy Fish

It’s not going to be that. It’s going to be, “You have no authority to imprison the next President of the United States! Think of the consequences when he wins re-election! This is illegal election interference, and we’ll appeal this sentence all the way to our friends in SCOTUS unless you go easy on him!”

That’s what we’ll hear when Judge Merchan asks if the defendant would like to say anything before the court imposes sentence. His lawyer’s paid to at least pretend that his client is remorseful and takes the consequences of his actions seriously, while Trump’s gonna jump up and squeal “DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!”

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:20:04am

oh if Judge Merchan rules that Trump is ineligible to serve as President under section 3 of the 14th Amendment…

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:20:48am

re: #156 Joe Bacon ✅

oh if Judge Merchan rules that Trump is ineligible to serve as President under section 3 of the 14th Amendment…

I don’t believe that’s his decision to make. Nothing about the current crimes has anything to do with the 14th Amendment.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:21:24am

re: #156 Joe Bacon ✅

Doubt that he’s going to rule on that, but he could indicate that Trump is ineligible to run for any NYS office with his felony conviction as per state law.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:24:39am

If Trump wins, he could weaponize U.S. spy services against his domestic political enemies, ex intel officers warn

A former national security official who served under Trump said, “I haven’t talked to a single senior person who said, ‘Don’t worry, he’ll be fine.’”

Donald Trump could turn America’s spy services into weapons of “retribution” against domestic political opponents, skew intelligence findings in favor of authoritarian leaders and undermine information sharing with U.S. allies if he wins a second term, more than a dozen former intelligence officers, Western officials and lawmakers tell NBC News.

Given Trump’s track record during and after his first term, including his public remarks lambasting the intelligence services, his alleged mishandling of classified information, his vows to seek vengeance against his political opponents, and plans by his allies to purge large numbers of career civil servants deemed to be members of a “deep state” cabal, former intelligence officers worry that the spy agencies could suffer irreparable damage.

“I’m very concerned. And I think almost every one of my former colleagues and current colleagues in the intelligence community is very concerned,” said a former national security official who served under Trump. “I haven’t talked to a single senior person who said, ‘Oh, it’s overblown. Don’t worry, he’ll be fine.’”

This article is based on interviews with more than a dozen former intelligence officers, many of whom worked in the Trump administration and had face-to-face meetings with the then-president, as well as Western officials and members of Congress.

There are few legal parameters defining the president’s power over the intelligence agencies, and Trump would have tremendous leeway if he chose to expand the number of political appointees at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the CIA and other agencies, according to Glenn Gerstell, who worked as general counsel for the National Security Agency from 2015 to 2020.

When it comes to the president’s authority over the intelligence community, “the law allows for a hell of a lot of discretion” and Trump would have “a pretty free hand,” said Gerstell.

“If a determined president, supported by a group of senior aides who will both support and enable him and not object, wishes to do his bidding throughout the entire executive branch, there are few practical limits on his ability to do so, unless Congress has the political will to step in,” he said. “The law is going to be pushed pretty far before it’s actually going to produce a counterreaction.”

nbcnews.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:24:53am

re: #152 lawhawk

Trump faces collateral consequences of the felony conviction too.

Another question: the appeals panel changed the civil judgement against the Trump Org and its officers, including staying the banning of said officers from certain actions.

Now that Trump has been found guilty of felonies in using his company’s funds, can Merchan reinstate a ban on Donald Trump?

I gather that if Trump is under parole that a condition of that parole may involve limiting Trump from participating in the company(s) by which he committed his crimes?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:33:26am

re: #159 Joe Bacon ✅

If Trump wins, he could will weaponize U.S. spy services against his domestic political enemies, ex intel officers warn

He has already said as much, that would part of his “Dictator-for-a-Day” Executive Orders. He will have them drafted and ready to sign as soon as he takes office.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:40:40am

re: #135 Joe Bacon ✅

Bimborella’s latest.

Marjorie Taylor Greene to push ‘defund New York’ plan in wake of Trump verdict

According to Politico, “Greene is planning to reinvigorate her push to defund special counsel Jack Smith as part of the appropriations process, we’re told — despite Speaker Mike Johnson telling Playbook last month that he thinks the idea is unworkable. But Greene won’t stop there. She’s planning a push to ‘defund New York’ by blocking the state from receiving any federal funds — including things like education and housing — an effort that could pick up support from MAGA hardliners.”

rawstory.com

Then New York needs to quit sending tax money to the federal government.

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jeffreyw  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:40:56am

chorizo scramble

Good morning!

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darthstar  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:42:32am

re: #157 Nerdy Fish

I don’t believe that’s his decision to make. Nothing about the current crimes has anything to do with the 14th Amendment.

That’s why SCOTUS is helping delay the DC case.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:43:50am

A good no parts fix.

Customer Changed the Parts Themselves, Still Not Fixed. Cat Diesel Engine Repair.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:46:45am

re: #160 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The stay reflects the judgment on appeal against Trump org and Trump for his separate business fraud malfeasance. That’s a factor that’ll get taken into account. But I don’t think he can reinstitute those penalties.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:48:15am

re: #149 Nojay UK

The US President is an elected king, not a civil servant. They get all the clearances they want regardless of their history before they are sworn into office on a cold January day in Washington DC. After that the only limitation they face on their absolute rule for the next four years is impeachment by Congress.

Sure it’s a bad idea but the Founding Fathers were working with a limited toolbox and they went with an elected king.

Not at all. Their intention was to concentrate power in the Congress, like the good republicans they were, but in the course of two hundred years, every crisis left more power in the hands of the executive.

Add to that that one party now consists of toadies who want their object of worship to rule them from the White House, and you have the situation in which we now find ourselves.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:48:56am

Mastodon

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:51:16am

re: #166 lawhawk

Given the civil judgement history, if Merchan puts Trump on probation can part of the requirements for said probation be that Trump does not contact any convicted criminal or criminal organization, or any organization by which Trump could use to commit crimes similar to his conviction?

Because if so, it would be right for Merchan to ban Trump, while under probation, with any contact with anyone with whom Trump has ever had an NDA, and that Trump must report any NDAs currently or in the past, to the probation officer?

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dat_said  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:54:49am

SD News Watch: Poll: Amendment to expand South Dakota abortion rights has nearly 20-point lead

Perhaps most notable is the fact that 46% of Republicans polled in the most recent survey said they support codifying legal abortion in South Dakota, with 41% opposed and 14% undecided.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:55:49am

re: #127 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Possibly. But for how long? One week per conviction? One month per conviction?

Given Trump has a rap sheet of civil judgements, and has publicly shown no remorse for those actions that led to the civil judgements, what judge would not at least require some controls to be on the guilty?

House arrest will not discourage Trump from continuing to commit crimes. The judge has to know this.

If it was me, I would tell Trump he is the most dangerous man in America, explaining exactly why that is, give him the maximum four years on each count (to run concurrently, so he would serve four years, max) and give him a date certain to surrender himself, in August. And I would say it was because Germany went easy on Hitler after the Bier Hall Putsch, and look what happened to them. If some appellate court wants to stay his sentence, let it be on them. But I’m not Judge Merchan.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:56:24am

re: #170 dat_said

If Biden wins in the fall, and/or the Dems keep the Senate, it will be because of abortion rights motivating enough voters to get out.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:57:28am

re: #129 lawhawk

My sense of Judge Merchan sentencing Trump is that while Trump is a first time convicted felon, his long history of criminal conduct in NY and malfeasance, including the Trump Org conviction on business fraud, will come into play. While some people have suggested Trump will not see jail, I do think it’s likely he’s going to spend at least some time in prison.

Why? Because there are numerous and significant cases of business fraud leading to prison sentences, even for first time offenders.

Trump has shown a reckless disregard for facts, truth, and lies to the public about everything relating to the case (see the claim that he didn’t know what the charges even were, even though while under oath, he stated to the court that he did). He’s attacked the fundamental and bedrock principles of the criminal justice system, violated gag order repeatedly, putting officers of the court in jeopardy, putting jurors in jeopardy, and his actions warrant prison.

I think he’s going to spend a year in prison. That will probably be due to 34 counts of 1 year in prison, served concurrently. I do not think that he gets more than a year in prison, but he could get some combination of terms to result in jail time.

From your lips to God’s ears, let it be.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:58:21am

During my commute I was scrolling through SatRadio and tuned in to Foxtard to see what they were ranting about:

* It’s true, tRump NEVER said “lock her up”
* If you are obsessing over him for denying he said that then you are a single cell amoeba
* “lock her up” doesn’t matter because he didn’t lock her up even though Obama and Hillary SHOULD BE locked up because they had the real coup against the tRump administration

That was all in 45 seconds….so I turned on music instead to cleanse my brain.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 6:59:31am

I was going to type another post relevant to the current conversation re: Judge Merchan and sentencing, but when I clicked into the text field on my Chrome, a popup appeared: “‘Help me write,’ powered by Google.” Excuse me, Google. Fuck all the way off with your AI bullshit. I don’t need help writing; I’ve been doing it for decades, and I’m actually quite good at it. AI is only going to make that worse.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:00:22am

Squid Game: The Challenge

GF and I finished this off last night. I hate reality shows but this was quite good. Highly recommended if you saw the streaming series. 4 thumbs up and two paws.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:00:32am

re: #138 Dangerman

In imposing a sentence of jail/incarceration, how much of the judge’s job is the specifics of where and how?

How much is up to the corrections department to figure out the logistics?

No-one has ever had to figure out how to incarcerate a former President of the United States before, so your guess is as good as mine.

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A Cranky One  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:01:41am

Are cans of hairspray allowed at correctional facilities?

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No Malarkey!  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:01:43am

re: #140 Dangerman

Could house arrest include like no Internet and who he can or can’t see or talk to? It’s house arrest. It’s supposed to be restrictive.

It absolutely could, not that Trump would comply with any restrictions imposed on him.

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:01:58am

re: #171 No Malarkey!

If it was me, I would tell Trump he is the most dangerous man in America, explaining exactly why that is, give him the maximum four years on each count (to run concurrently, so he would serve four years, max) and give him a date certain to surrender himself, in August. And I would say it was because Germany went easy on Hitler after the Bier Hall Putsch, and look what happened to them. If some appellate court wants to stay his sentence, let it be on them. But I’m not Judge Merchan.

It’s reasonable to think he should serve as long as Michael Cohen did. For the same scheme, the same set of facts, Individual 1 shouldn’t get off lighter than the guy who did what he asked of him.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:02:01am

re: #175 Nerdy Fish

I was going to type another post relevant to the current conversation re: Judge Merchan and sentencing, but when I clicked into the text field on my Chrome, a popup appeared: “‘Help me write,’ powered by Google.” Excuse me, Google. Fuck all the way off with your AI bullshit. I don’t need help writing; I’ve been doing it for decades, and I’m actually quite good at it. AI is only going to make that worse.

Did they bring Clippie back?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:02:28am

re: #178 A Cranky One

Are cans of hairspray allowed at correctional facilities?

And what about orange bronzer?

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:02:33am

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Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:05:12am

re: #178 A Cranky One

Are cans of hairspray allowed at correctional facilities?

re: #182 Dr. Matt

And what about orange bronzer?

Would Donnie Diaper ask a Black man to locate such things?

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No Malarkey!  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:05:17am

re: #150 Nerdy Fish

I should qualify: What you said is what a lawyer SHOULD say to a judge, in order to get the best chance at a lighter sentence. But Trump, the client, is not going to let them say that. His pride won’t let them. He is going to push hard for them to emphasize how he is going to be President next year, and then the judge will be sorry, if he sentences Trump to prison.

No lawyer in his right mind would say that to a Judge during a sentencing hearing.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:10:22am

re: #185 No Malarkey!

No lawyer in his right mind would say that to a Judge during a sentencing hearing.

Not in so many words, but think about how much control Trump’s lawyers have over their client (namely, none whatsoever). If they can talk him out of pushing on this “I’m the next President, you can’t touch me” angle, I’ll be surprised.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:14:56am

re: #186 Nerdy Fish

Not in so many words, but think about how much control Trump’s lawyers have over their client (namely, none whatsoever). If they can talk him out of pushing on this “I’m the next President, you can’t touch me” angle, I’ll be surprised.

Trump can say whatever he wants during his statement. No attorney should be making even oblique threats to a judge while they are arguing for their client.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:22:37am

This is wonderful. Larry Hogan is a serious threat to give the GOP control of the US Senate, because he was the popular Governor of Maryland so Democrats are use to voting for him. But now Trump World is going to war against Hogan because he said people should respect the verdict convicting Trump. Mitch McConnell is rolling in the coffin he sleeps in at night.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:22:48am

Hunter Biden criminal trial getting underway in federal court this morning.

Joe and Jill weighed in with a statement of love and support and empathy for their son, all while not commenting on the criminal case itself.

That stands in stark departure from everyone in Trumpworld. There’s no love there by and between anyone. It’s all transactional - what any of them can do for anyone else.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:24:38am

re: #187 No Malarkey!

All lawyers in court are operating as officers of the court. If any lawyer makes a threat such as that, they’d find themselves in contempt and face disbarment and sanctions.

Yeah, you don’t do that.

Defendants, on the other hand, if they make a statement that engages in those kinds of attacks may also find themselves in contempt, and watch their own sentencing get increased due to the unrepentant nature and malice.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:25:52am

re: #180 sagehen

Why I think Trump will not be located behind bars: he has SS protection for life.

And I can’t imagine any NY jail or prison facility that will allow federal agents armed with automatic weapons constantly being in said facility.

So I suspect that Merchan will simply let Trump out on probation. Hopefully for a full 4 years, requiring Trump to remain in NY the whole time, and to have no contact with any criminal, which rules out some of his associates being in contact with him.

Also, a big fine would be nice. Merchan can direct that it goes to public agencies that help people with businesses, as this was a business crime.

And since the crimes involved paying off a sex worker, it’d be nice if Merchan required Trump to pay a nice chunk of change to charities that help in sex trafficking.

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Semper Fi  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:26:59am

re: #188 No Malarkey!

This is wonderful. Larry Hogan is a serious threat to give the GOP control of the US Senate, because he was the popular Governor of Maryland so Democrats are use to voting for him. But now Trump World is going to war against Hogan because he said people should respect the verdict convicting Trump. Mitch McConnell is rolling in the coffin he sleeps in at night.

Upding!

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:27:46am

re: #191 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There are ways he could be sentenced to prison; we have discussed several of them here. I wouldn’t view his Secret Service detail as an obstacle.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:29:48am

re: #193 Nerdy Fish

I do not believe any proposal will be acceptable to all parties involved.

New York is not going to build a special building just for one criminal for a year or so.

And unlike a certain French dictator two centuries ago, he can’t be shipped off to an abandoned house on a remote island.

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Unabogie  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:34:38am

Personally, I think it’d be a huge miscarriage of justice for Trump to avoid jail time. He’s a habitual fraudster and although this is the first criminal conviction, his business is guilty of fraud, he has been found liable for massive civil fraud, and he’s been found liable for rape. If anyone doesn’t deserve downward sentencing, it’s this guy. Add to that his total and complete lack of remorse and his total and complete criminal contempt for the court, and there’s no way a poor Black man would walk out of there with probation. It just wouldn’t happen.

Trump should go in, and I hope Merchan and Bragg are in agreement on this.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:40:31am

😂😂

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Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:43:35am

Wags…..

Mastodon

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Unabogie  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:45:56am

re: #196 Dr. Matt

😂😂

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IS THIS YOUR GOD KING?!?

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A Cranky One  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:46:04am

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:52:46am

Safe prediction. Hunter is guilty of the gun charges, and does a few months time.

MAGA: DO YOU WANT A PRESIDENT WITH A FELONIOUS SON?!?! WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT SLEEPY JOE AS A FATHER?!!!?!?!?!!!!!!

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:55:07am

re: #181 Decatur Deb

Did they bring Clippie back?

I wish it were only that bad.

Where is that string to nuke the AI crap in search? I have to get my browsers set up properly as they’re unusable now, especially Firef&cked.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 3, 2024 • 7:57:52am

re: #200 GlutenFreeJesus

Oh. And not a word about BIDEN’S FASCIST DOJ!!!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:04:46am

Proud Boys reemerging as ‘physical force’ for Trump ahead of 2024 election

rawstory.com

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:05:52am

re: #204 Joe Bacon ✅

Proud Boys reemerging as ‘physical force’ for Trump ahead of 2024 election

rawstory.com

This time around everyone knows who they are and what they are preparing to do. The only real question is are certain police departments going to continue to coddle them or even aid them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:06:49am

re: #170 dat_said

SD News Watch: Poll: Amendment to expand South Dakota abortion rights has nearly 20-point lead

And this is all the more reason that we cannot trust voters to decide on issues that The Lord God has already resolved for us.

Oh and btw, Ellsworth AFB is located just outside of Box Elder, South Dakota.

The military is the second largest employer in the state.

I did not look up how many service people are based there are or how many of those service people are female.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:10:36am

re: #200 GlutenFreeJesus

Safe prediction. Hunter is guilty of the gun charges, and does a few months time.

MAGA: DO YOU WANT A PRESIDENT WITH A FELONIOUS SON?!?! WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT SLEEPY JOE AS A FATHER?!!!?!?!?!!!!!!

On the back of a postage stamp, I can list the number of Democrats and pundits screeching Hunter’s trial is a “rigged political sham”.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:13:56am

re: #205 Florida Panhandler

This time around everyone knows who they are and what they are preparing to do. The only real question is are certain police departments going to continue to coddle them or even aid them.

January 6 they had a specific target they could concentrate on and they caught the government flat-footed. Next January, the Capitol will be sealed up tight the day Congress confirms the electoral vote and on inauguration day, so the terrorist threat is more likely to be sporadic attacks on polling stations and election headquarters where ballots are collected and counted. Hopefully, some of the new Proud Boy recruits are FBI informants, so they can uncover any plans for election related terror attacks.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:15:22am

re: #207 Dr. Matt

On the back of a postage stamp, I can list the number of Democrats and pundits screeching Hunter’s trial is a “rigged political sham”.

Though it actually is. Hunter may be the only person in the country who would face a criminal trial on this charge standing alone.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:22:56am

Can’t wait to see the MagaNazi contingency make complete fools of themselves citing youtube conspiracy videos as “research”.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:24:29am

re: #175 Nerdy Fish

I was going to type another post relevant to the current conversation re: Judge Merchan and sentencing, but when I clicked into the text field on my Chrome, a popup appeared: “‘Help me write,’ powered by Google.” Excuse me, Google. Fuck all the way off with your AI bullshit. I don’t need help writing; I’ve been doing it for decades, and I’m actually quite good at it. AI is only going to make that worse.

Did it look like a paperclip?

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:27:17am

re: #211 Dr. Matt

I will wait for something that comes through CNN or NBC or PBS.

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dat_said  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:29:43am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And this is all the more reason that we cannot trust voters to decide on issues that The Lord God has already resolved for us.

….

SD voters approved a measure in 2020 that would have legalized marijuana

In 2020, South Dakota voters approved a medical marijuana initiative and also passed a measure that would have legalized recreational marijuana. But the latter was ultimately struck down when the South Dakota Supreme Court upheld a judge’s ruling that it violated a single-subject rule for constitutional amendments — a challenge begun by Gov. Kristi Noem.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:32:20am

Mastodon

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:36:30am

re: #201 William Lewis

I wish it were only that bad.

Where is that string to nuke the AI crap in search? I have to get my browsers set up properly as they’re unusable now, especially Firef&cked.

I didn’t save the original string (don’t use google), but this works:
brainless google

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:38:32am

Mastodon

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Semper Fi  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:40:10am

re: #196 Dr. Matt

😂😂

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Mopping floors, I think, would be too strenuous due to his age and condition. Better placement would be commodes and urinals.

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austin_blue  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:41:47am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Congresswoman Sheila Lee Jackson (D-TX18) announced she has pancreatic cancer on Sunday.

‘I stand in faith:’ Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee announces pancreatic cancer diagnosis (KPRC-TV, Houston)

Shit. She’s got brass and does not suffer fools. This is a classic example of why God (if She/He is there) is an iron.

(To quote Spider Robinson:

“If a person who indulges in gluttony is a glutton, and a person who commits a felony is a felon, then God is an iron.”)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:41:56am

re: #207 Dr. Matt

On the back of a postage stamp, I can list the number of Democrats and pundits screeching Hunter’s trial is a “rigged political sham”.

we all know it is, what is the point of flogging a dead elephant?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:43:00am

re: #188 No Malarkey!

No Hogan signs in my Neighborhood, only Alsobrooks.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:45:21am

re: #194 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There is actually space at a number of correctional facilities due to how number of incarcerated is down from the 1980s when NYS went on a prison building spree.

That capacity means that they can find a space at one of the existing facilities and repurpose for Trump.

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A Cranky One  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:47:01am

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Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:48:47am

re: #218 Semper Fi

Mopping floors, I think, would be too strenuous due to his age and condition. Better placement would be commodes and urinals.

Donnie Diapers: WHY AM I CLEANING COMMODES?! THEY ARE SO CONFLICTED. SCOTUS NEEDS TO INTERVENE NOW!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:51:39am

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Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:53:00am

re: #225 Joe Bacon ✅

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A Cranky One  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:54:01am

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:54:27am

re: #222 lawhawk

There is actually space at a number of correctional facilities due to how number of incarcerated is down from the 1980s when NYS went on a prison building spree.

That capacity means that they can find a space at one of the existing facilities and repurpose for Trump.

Yeah, this could be done with minimal difficulty. IIRC, the Secret Service has already been talking about with the NY Department of Corrections. Never a bad idea to plan for any and all scenarios.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:55:04am

re: #218 Semper Fi

Mopping floors, I think, would be too strenuous due to his age and condition. Better placement would be commodes and urinals.

Looks more like he is raking the tile. Maybe he thinks he is in a forest?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2024 • 8:57:00am

re: #59 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This had the potential to go really bad, but I lucked out. 3/6

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The other 2 starts with the same letters as me, but a different word that had no letters in the right place. The 5 was one that went bad. She had 4 letters at 2, but it took 5 to solve.

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darthstar  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:02:14am

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:04:24am

Nigel Farage to stand in election and become leader of Reform UK

— Rick de Ruiter (@rickderuiter.bsky.social) 2024-06-03T15:57:27.315Z

LMAO

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:05:58am

re: #232 Targetpractice

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LMAO

Isn’t the Reform Party where all the people who are too embarrassed to publicly claim they’re Tories go until after the public outcry dies down? That seems like a big problem.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:08:12am

re: #233 Nerdy Fish

Isn’t the Reform Party where all the people who are too embarrassed to publicly claim they’re Tories go until after the public outcry dies down? That seems like a big problem.

Actually, it’s the exact opposite. Think if Trump went out tomorrow, announced he was forming his own party, and that it would be competing against the GQP for the far-right vote.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:10:10am

re: #234 Targetpractice

Actually, it’s the exact opposite. Think if Trump went out tomorrow, announced he was forming his own party, and that it would be competing against the GQP for the far-right vote.

Forming his own party, or taking over the Libertarian Party? That’s the scenario I’m thinking of. Because all the Republicans who are voting Libertarian because they don’t want to be seen supporting Trump, but still want to be conservative assholes, would then have a big problem on their hands. Not a problem for me or for the Democrats, of course; we’d be eating popcorn and watching the chaos unfold. Which is what I imagine Labour and the LibDems have to be doing right now.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:10:45am

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Free link at the New York Times, June 2, 2024

(more)

Why the New Human Case of Bird Flu Is So Alarming

(Opinion piece by Dr. Rick Bright, a virologist and former head of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority.)

As you might recall from recent history, SARS-CoV 2 started in the USA as one case.

Except COVID had already adapted to humans when it reached here — there were thousands (or more) infected in China, and people who had been overseas brought it here repeatedly. It didn’t spread from one person, it spread from many people.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:11:53am

Bob Menendez filed for reelection in NJ as an independent.

That’s not going to help you Bob. You’re polling in low single digits, and Andy Kim should win the election handily. You’re going to be a convicted felon before the summer is out.

I can recall the one time I shook hands with the guy. I had to check to make sure my wallet, keys, rings, and watch were all still on my person. He was the smarmiest person I’ve personally met/interacted with, and I used to work in the building with Shelly Silver, Joe Bruno and other NYS legislators.

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Semper Fi  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:12:30am

re: #234 Targetpractice

Actually, it’s the exact opposite. Think if Trump went out tomorrow, announced he was forming his own party, and that it would be competing against the GQP for the far-right vote.

Thanks for that example.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:12:34am

re: #235 Nerdy Fish

Libertarians want nothing to do with him, as per their reception to Trump at one of their party functions a few weeks back.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:12:39am

Oops, sorry about that.

The New York Stock Exchange said Monday that a technical issue that halted trading for some major stocks and caused Berkshire Hathaway to be down 99.97% has been resolved.

cnn.com

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:12:52am

re: #235 Nerdy Fish

Forming his own party, or taking over the Libertarian Party? That’s the scenario I’m thinking of. Because all the Republicans who are voting Libertarian because they don’t want to be seen supporting Trump, but still want to be conservative assholes, would then have a big problem on their hands. Not a problem for me or for the Democrats, of course; we’d be eating popcorn and watching the chaos unfold. Which is what I imagine Labour and the LibDems have to be doing right now.

Well, the big difference is that Reform UK voters are functionally the equivalent of the MAGAt voters: Loud, bigoted assholes who think the Conservative Party’s biggest issue is that they’re a bunch of “socialists” who never really believed in Brexit and that’s why there’s so many “foreigners” still in the country.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:13:46am

re: #239 lawhawk

Libertarians want nothing to do with him, as per their reception to Trump at one of their party functions a few weeks back.

Sorry, my metaphors got mixed. I didn’t mean any of that was actually happening in the United States, I was trying to get a clear understanding of what the “Reform UK” party is and if the Tories are even more screwed than they originally thought.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:17:16am

Fox is running the Fauchi hearings. Ronny Jackson is up and I just can’t

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:17:52am

re: #240 Shropshire Slasher

Oops, sorry about that.

cnn.com

Some suit in the NYSE offices right now: “We have determined our new AI management tool for stock trading still has a few bugs that need to be fixed…”

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:19:26am

re: #242 Nerdy Fish

Sorry, my metaphors got mixed. I didn’t mean any of that was actually happening in the United States, I was trying to get a clear understanding of what the “Reform UK” party is and if the Tories are even more screwed than they originally thought.

It remains to be seen, but all signs point to “Yes.” To give an idea, there was a poll released a couple weeks ago showing where the parties stood two weeks after the local counsel elections. In that poll, Reform UK had lost 4 points since the elections, yet the Conservatives had only see a 1 point bump in theirs. The general consensus is that, contrary to what a lot of Conservative Party leaders have been assuming for the longest time, Reform voters are not simply going to “come home” in the general elections.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:23:51am

re: #245 Targetpractice

BWA HAHAHAHA!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:24:18am

re: #245 Targetpractice

UK poll released not an hour ago shows the Tories in for the worst thumping since…well, ever.

news.sky.com

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:25:02am

re: #245 Targetpractice

It remains to be seen, but all signs point to “Yes.” To give an idea, there was a poll released a couple weeks ago showing where the parties stood two weeks after the local counsel elections. In that poll, Reform UK had lost 4 points since the elections, yet the Conservatives had only see a 1 point bump in theirs. The general consensus is that, contrary to what a lot of Conservative Party leaders have been assuming for the longest time, Reform voters are not simply going to “come home” in the general elections.

True, probably: I can’t see where bleeding support on their Right is going to help the Cons in the least: more likely it will just add to the margins for whoever else is running against them: Labour most places, I’d guess.
Ideally both the Tories AND Reform will fail badly enough to marginalize themselves (hopefully into near-oblivion).

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wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:25:59am

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:26:10am

This story has been going on in the background (at least for me) for about a week, and now I feel like I am getting trolled by a dude that drives a car that has a fish with legs bumper sticker.

Welcome to the wonderful — and, to non-believers, perhaps a little weird — world of Carlo Acutis, the British-born computer whizkid dubbed ‘God’s Influencer’ for spreading the Lord’s teachings via the internet.

Carlo, whose body now rests in a glass-sided tomb in a corner of Santa Maria Maggiore, is set to become the Catholic Church’s first millennial saint.

The stained glass was a little much, but to each their own.

dailymail.co.uk

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:30:19am

re: #129 lawhawk

…..

I think he’s going to spend a year in prison. That will probably be due to 34 counts of 1 year in prison, served concurrently. I do not think that he gets more than a year in prison, but he could get some combination of terms to result in jail time.

House arrest has to be more likely. Cohen spent 13 months in prison and a year and a half in home confinement (due to Covid?). It has to be simpler, given his SS detail, to confine him to an apartment in NY. However, if the other trials take place and he’s convicted, he deserves to be in the slammer for the rest of his life.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:33:16am

Freepers seldom realize that Mexico is a country rather than a bad neighborhood, but the election of Claudia Sheinbaum has caused them to sit up and take notice. They are absolutely apoplectic, turning purple and rolling on the floor in a frothing rage.
A left-leaning woman climate scientist and vaccination supporter, and a Jew to boot? How could it be any worse?
She will now accelerate the plan to deport the whole population to the United States so they can vote in Democrats who will then commit communist atrocities like banning dually pickups and MLM business operations, forcing all children to undergo vaccination and LGBTQ indoctrination, and trying to light up the cities with 12 volt organic solar cells hung from the roof of the unabomber’s outhouse.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:34:20am

re: #252 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

I have a friend from Mexico who is very unhappy with this result, but because of the community we’re in, I’m not really able to ask him why. But clearly, if she’s winning the election, the majority of his countrymates don’t feel the same way he does.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:34:56am

re: #251 Hecuba’s daughter

He’s got a 3 strikes concern, given that when those trials do go ahead, he’s likely seeing additional convictions. That means the penalties go way up as a recidivist.

Fuck that guy.

Life in prison is law and order and the rule of law.

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wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:40:32am

re: #252 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Freepers seldom realize that Mexico is a country rather than a bad neighborhood, but the election of Claudia Sheinbaum has caused them to sit up and take notice. They are absolutely apoplectic, turning purple and rolling on the floor in a frothing rage.
A left-leaning woman climate scientist and vaccination supporter, and a Jew to boot? How could it be any worse?
She will now accelerate the plan to deport the whole population to the United States so they can vote in Democrats who will then commit communist atrocities like banning dually pickups and MLM business operations, forcing all children to undergo vaccination and LGBTQ indoctrination, and trying to light up the cities with 12 volt organic solar cells hung from the roof of the unabomber’s outhouse.

Solar powered taco trucks on every corner!

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austin_blue  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:42:50am

re: #194 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I do not believe any proposal will be acceptable to all parties involved.

New York is not going to build a special building just for one criminal for a year or so.

And unlike a certain French dictator two centuries ago, he can’t be shipped off to an abandoned house on a remote island.

Johnston Atoll is empty and available. As a bonus, it can be cut off from all social media, too.

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austin_blue  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:45:56am

re: #225 Joe Bacon ✅

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Did Fauci say “Ouchie!”?

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:46:20am

re: #252 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

A left-leaning woman climate scientist and vaccination supporter, and a Jew to boot? How could it be any worse?

She is a space-laser wielding JUICE!!!!!!

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Egregious Philbin  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:46:51am

re: #256 austin_blue

They bulldozed all the structures on Johnston, and tore up the runways. Its a bird preserve now, and off limits. I wanted to fly the coral route back when I worked for the airlines, Honolulu to Johnston, Majuro, Kwajelein, Kosrae, Phonpei, Yap, and then Guam. I could never find a flight home out of Guam that wasn’t completely full.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:47:09am

re: #236 Hecuba’s daughter

Except COVID had already adapted to humans when it reached here — there were thousands (or more) infected in China, and people who had been overseas brought it here repeatedly. It didn’t spread from one person, it spread from many people.

Can you transmit bird flu without showing symptoms first? That was the worst part of Covid, namely that you could be an asymptomatic vector.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:48:09am

re: #256 austin_blue

Johnston Atoll is empty and available. As a bonus, it can be cut off from all social media, too.

Johnston Atoll is a nature preserve if I recall correctly
So an invasive species such as the MAGAT would not be permitted

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dat_said  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:48:25am

MN Reformer: Juror in Feeding Our Future case excused after being offered bags of cash to acquit

A juror in the Feeding Our Future case was excused Monday morning after prosecutors said an unidentified individual went to the juror’s house on Sunday night and offered a bag containing $120,000 in cash and another bag if she voted for acquittal.

The trial is of 7 people allegedly involved with stealing $41 million from the federal government that was meant to feed children during the Covid pandemic.

The trial is part of a larger investigation into the alleged theft of $250 million from the Child Nutrition Program. Seventy defendants have been charged in what has become known as the Feeding Our Future case; 18 have pleaded guilty and await sentencing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:48:51am

re: #255 wrenchwench

Solar powered taco trucks on every corner!

Calves the size of cantaloupes on every construction worker!!!

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:49:32am

re: #253 Nerdy Fish

I have a friend from Mexico who is very unhappy with this result, but because of the community we’re in, I’m not really able to ask him why. But clearly, if she’s winning the election, the majority of his countrymates don’t feel the same way he does.

Well, according to the rundown (via NYT); the preliminary results aren’t a simple either/or situation: both Sheinbaum and Gálvez (the main candidates) are heads of multi-party coalitions, and the votes seem to done along a party-slate basis. However Sheinbaum’s bloc seems to have scored a solid win pretty much everywhere: so she’s a shoo-in.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:51:39am

These are some seriously delusional people
To many to “Baker Act”
x.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:52:38am

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Can you transmit bird flu without showing symptoms first?

Unfortunately, we don’t know because there has not been a lot of research of H5N1 in humans. The writer of the article suggests asymptomatic cases are possible and could be a problematic transmission source.

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austin_blue  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:54:11am

re: #259 Egregious Philbin

They bulldozed all the structures on Johnston, and tore up the runways. Its a bird preserve now, and off limits. I wanted to fly the coral route back when I worked for the airlines, Honolulu to Johnston, Majuro, Kwajelein, Kosrae, Phonpei, Yap, and then Guam. I could never find a flight home out of Guam that wasn’t completely full.

Just out of College, She Who Must Be Obeyed did a USO Tour that included Johnston Atoll. I landed and refueled there on an outbound flight to Australia on a Pacific Tanker Task Force tour. They were burning nerve gas at the time.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 9:59:49am

‘Suspend!’ Marjorie Taylor Greene smacked down by GOP chair at hearing with Dr. Fauci

rawstory.com

Democrats called for the words of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) to be taken down after she refused to call former National Institutes of Health Director Anthony Fauci “doctor.”

The conflict came during a Monday House Oversight Committee hearing on the origins of COVID-19.

“Do the American people deserve to be abused like that, Mr. Fauci?” Greene asked. “Because you’re not doctor, you’re Mr. Fauci in my few minutes.”

Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) interrupted to say Greene was breaking committee rules.

“Mr. Chairman, just in terms of the rules of decorum, are we allowed to deny that a doctor is a doctor just because we don’t want him to be a doctor?” Raskin said.

“Yes, because in my time, that man does not deserve to have a license,” Greene shot back. “As a matter of fact, it should be revoked, and he belongs in prison.”

“Suspend!” Republican Chairman Brad Wenstrup (OH) told Greene. “The gentlelady should recognize the doctor as a doctor.”

“Is this what we have become?” one Democrat complained. “Is this what we have devolved into? No decorum.”

“That’s completely unacceptable to be able to deny Dr. Fauci, who’s here, a respected member of the medical community, his title,” he added. “And that’s actually a personal attack on his character.”

“And I have instructed her to address him as a doctor,” Wenstrup noted.

“I’m not addressing him as a doctor,” Greene said.

“We should have to take her words down,” a Democratic member demanded.

“Mr. Chairman, I’d like to make a point of order,” Greene interrupted. “Because they accused us of worshipping President Trump. We don’t worship President Trump.”

“Gentlelady will suspend!” Wenstrup demanded. “The rule on taking down words does not apply to a witness. Again, I’m not condoning the words.”

“The chair overrules the point of order by the gentleman from Maryland but asks that members please afford all other members the respect they’re entitled, refrain from using rhetoric that could be construed as an attack on the motives or character of another member, or the witness,” he added.

With that, Greene was allowed to continue.

“You belong in prison, Dr. Fauci,” she said.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:00:38am

re: #259 Egregious Philbin

They bulldozed all the structures on Johnston, and tore up the runways. Its a bird preserve now, and off limits. I wanted to fly the coral route back when I worked for the airlines, Honolulu to Johnston, Majuro, Kwajelein, Kosrae, Phonpei, Yap, and then Guam. I could never find a flight home out of Guam that wasn’t completely full.

Landed there going and coming on a trip to Kwaj. I think that qualifies me to be a tour guide. My officemate did a couple weeks there, and had to shave his signature beard to fit his mask. Looked like a turtle out of its shell.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:01:47am

re: #147 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

If Martha Stewart had to go to prison, why not Trump?

For a far less serious offense — and she was polite during the whole process and during her whole time in prison.

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darthstar  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:02:28am

My contractor and his crew are working on the garage - they poured a new concrete water barrier along the old garage opening. I went out to talk to them and I said, “Hey, you built a wall! Can we get Mexico to pay for it?” They all busted up laughing (they’re all Mexican).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:03:16am

re: #268 Joe Bacon ✅

‘Suspend!’ Marjorie Taylor Greene smacked down by GOP chair at hearing with Dr. Fauci

Here we have an experienced public servant who has done his best throughout administrations being attacked for not giving in and supporting the agenda of the President he was serving under.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:05:36am

re: #268 Joe Bacon ✅

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

MTG should be thrown out of the House.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:06:48am

Hey Three Toes….

Your god-emperor Trump awarded Dr. Fauci a medal on Trump’s way out of office.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:07:12am

re: #273 PhillyPretzel ✅

MTG should be thrown out of the House.

I’m usually pretty slow to join these calls, but this isn’t the first time she’s been completely out of order. She’s uncontrollable. If this was AOC, she would’ve already been censured multiple times, and a call to the sergeant-at-arms to remove her from the chamber would probably not be far behind.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:08:29am

re: #275 Nerdy Fish

It keeps her in the news and that is her main agenda

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:12:07am

re: #275 Nerdy Fish

I’m usually pretty slow to join these calls, but this isn’t the first time she’s been completely out of order. She’s uncontrollable. If this was AOC, she would’ve already been censured multiple times, and a call to the sergeant-at-arms to remove her from the chamber would probably not be far behind.

And I’m guessing that as campaign season wears on, she’s only going to get worse. And tossing her skanky ass out of the Committees, or even out of the House entirely is only going to make her look “tougher” in the bleary eyes of the hardcore MAGA base who is her main audience.
Does BBBBBB even have an election opponent in her district?

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:12:37am

re: #276 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It keeps her in the news and that is her main agenda

“Marge said something crazy again” should not be news.

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Semper Fi  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:13:04am

re: #273 PhillyPretzel ✅

MTG should be thrown out of the House.

MTG brings Republican congress down (if that’s still possible) by her behavior.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:13:28am

re: #276 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It keeps her in the news and that is her main agenda

Hot take: Amend the US Constitution so that both Senators and Representatives are elected to 20-year terms, subject to mandatory expulsion for certain triggering events (indictment for corruption or abuse of power, medical determination of being unfit to hold office), and universal and immediate recall elections for both offices once an initiative with enough valid signatures from the represented area has been presented to the state’s Secretary of State. Make it so that representatives don’t spend their whole time in the legislature passing performative gibberish as part of their campaign platform; they have to actually do something, or the voters can send them packing at any time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:17:36am

re: #268 Joe Bacon ✅

That woman is such a fucking cancer. I loathe her more with each passing day.

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dat_said  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:18:42am

LA Times: Q&A: These researchers examined 20 years of data same-sex marriage. Here’s what they found

What did all that data tell you?
 MZ: The headline from our new analysis is no negative impacts and some positive ones.

We see an increase in marriage, and that increase is driven not just by newly marrying same-sex couples, but also by an increase in marriage among different-sex couples. That was a bit surprising to us.

What is surprising is that legal same-sex marriage hasn’t led to people marrying their pets (as Speaker Mike Johnson once wrote in an editorial would be the result of legal same-sex marriage: vanityfair.com)

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:19:04am

$240 a year is still a good value to me, as I use the service every day.

Spotify raised prices for its premium plans in the US on Monday, the latest step by the Swedish music-streaming service in its push to increase margins.

The company raised prices of its individual plan to $11.99 from $10.99 per month, duo plan to $16.99 from $14.99 and its family plan to $19.99 from $16.99 in its largest market by revenue.

Spotify has been trying to boost its margins in recent months by lowering marketing spending and through layoffs, after relying on promotions and hefty investments to drive user growth.

Shares of the company, which competes with services from Apple and Amazon, rose more than 4%.

nypost.com

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Semper Fi  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:23:13am

re: #281 Eclectic Cyborg

That woman is such a fucking cancer. I loathe her more with each passing day.

Unfortunately she got the votes to be in that position but she just doesn’t fit.
Joe Bacon named her perfectly…most appropriate.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:24:04am

re: #159 Joe Bacon ✅

If Trump wins, he could weaponize U.S. spy services against his domestic political enemies, ex intel officers warn

A former national security official who served under Trump said, “I haven’t talked to a single senior person who said, ‘Don’t worry, he’ll be fine.’”

……
“If a determined president, supported by a group of senior aides who will both support and enable him and not object, wishes to do his bidding throughout the entire executive branch, there are few practical limits on his ability to do so, unless Congress has the political will to step in,” he said. “The law is going to be pushed pretty far before it’s actually going to produce a counterreaction.”

nbcnews.com

It will not produce a counterreaction from the GOP hordes; there will be no way to stop him because the party is owned by him and they will fall in line. They are no different from the Nazi Party. All our institutions will fold before his onslaught. SCOTUS has already proved that they are in line with his evil and will not protect our nation (of course, they could surprise me with their immunity ruling — but I doubt it — unless Alito and Thomas are struck by lightning before the decision is released). There is no protection except preventing his election — and getting the House in Democratic hands and keeping the Senate Democratic. Anything less, and our nation is finished.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:26:11am

re: #273 PhillyPretzel ✅

MTG should be thrown out of the House.

The Dems were 1000% correct for banning Butch Body from sitting on any committee. As usual, the Left is on the right side of history.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:26:26am

re: #167 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Not at all. Their intention was to concentrate power in the Congress, like the good republicans they were, but in the course of two hundred years, every crisis left more power in the hands of the executive.

Add to that that one party now consists of toadies who want their object of worship to rule them from the White House, and you have the situation in which we now find ourselves.

The anti-Federalists warned us about a Trump, but the Federalists were too blind to the danger.

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KGxvi  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:26:51am

re: #280 Nerdy Fish

Hot take: Amend the US Constitution so that both Senators and Representatives are elected to 20-year terms, subject to mandatory expulsion for certain triggering events (indictment for corruption or abuse of power, medical determination of being unfit to hold office), and universal and immediate recall elections for both offices once an initiative with enough valid signatures from the represented area has been presented to the state’s Secretary of State. Make it so that representatives don’t spend their whole time in the legislature passing performative gibberish as part of their campaign platform; they have to actually do something, or the voters can send them packing at any time.

Interesting idea. I’ve been thinking about different ideas that could hopefully make our government slightly better/more responsive to voters. Basic ideas:

1. abolish the electoral college, go to direct election. I’d even be fine with a run off election if nobody gets to 50%. I’d also expand the vote for president/vice-president to every American citizen over the age of 18 regardless of where they live (so people in the territories or living abroad could vote)

2. expand the House via the Wyoming Rule - basically whatever the population of the smallest state is, that is the size of districts everywhere. Smaller districts, especially in bigger states, should lead to representatives who actually represent their voters.

3a. expand the Senate by giving every state 3 senators - so every state has a senate election ever two years.

3b. abolish the senate (there was actually a proposed amendment to do this) and go to a unicameral legislature. In this scenario, I would expand House terms to either 4, 5, or 6 years and also allow for the calling of snap elections as in many parliaments around the world.

I also like the idea of making the House a national vote with proportional representation but I equally don’t like the idea of strengthening the parties in that manner. To counter balance it, we could make the Senate single member districts based on population (basically what the House is now) - but this would probably technically require an entirely new constitution rather than just some amendments due to the language of Article V.

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KGxvi  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:30:40am

re: #287 Hecuba’s daughter

The anti-Federalists warned us about a Trump, but the Federalists were too blind to the danger.

not really, because neither the Federalists nor the anti-Federalists were on board with universal suffrage or direct elections. They envisioned members of the electoral college exercising independent judgment in voting for president and vice-president. That pretty quickly fell apart and since then we’ve been overlaying a direct election on top of an indirect election in a way that doesn’t really work.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:32:33am

re: #288 KGxvi

Making the House and Senate each have 8 year terms would mean that turnover from a GOP majority to a Dem majority (or vice versa) would occur at a glacial pace or not at all, because of the intrinsic power of incumbency. The House was designed to be more reactionary and represent people at a more base level. Expand the house significantly - it hasn’t been done despite US population more than 3 times higher than the last time it was expanded - in 1913.

Expanding the House would also add numbers to the EC, and if you couple that with the Wyoming rule, then you have a path forward.

Reform SCOTUS.
Reform Congress.

GOP/MAGA solution is scrapping everything in favor of an authoritarian kleptocracy.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:33:01am

re: #289 KGxvi

And the Senate was not directly elected, but rather selected by the state legislatures.

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KGxvi  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:33:15am

re: #167 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Not at all. Their intention was to concentrate power in the Congress, like the good republicans they were, but in the course of two hundred years, every crisis left more power in the hands of the executive.

Add to that that one party now consists of toadies who want their object of worship to rule them from the White House, and you have the situation in which we now find ourselves.

this process was really accelerated in the early 20th century during the second industrial revolution and the boom/bust cycles that came with it, including and especially shit sandwich of history that was the world wars and great depression.

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darthstar  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:33:36am

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austin_blue  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:33:59am

re: #275 Nerdy Fish

I’m usually pretty slow to join these calls, but this isn’t the first time she’s been completely out of order. She’s uncontrollable. If this was AOC, she would’ve already been censured multiple times, and a call to the sergeant-at-arms to remove her from the chamber would probably not be far behind.

She’s an insufferable twat.

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KGxvi  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:36:25am

re: #290 lawhawk

Making the House and Senate each have 8 year terms would mean that turnover from a GOP majority to a Dem majority (or vice versa) would occur at a glacial pace or not at all, because of the intrinsic power of incumbency. The House was designed to be more reactionary and represent people at a more base level. Expand the house significantly - it hasn’t been done despite US population more than 3 times higher than the last time it was expanded - in 1913.

Expanding the House would also add numbers to the EC, and if you couple that with the Wyoming rule, then you have a path forward.

Reform SCOTUS.
Reform Congress.

GOP/MAGA solution is scrapping everything in favor of an authoritarian kleptocracy.

yeah, I wouldn’t want to expand the terms of office for Congress or the President. I do think expanding the House is the “easiest” path forward, but without some of the other reforms (like abolishing the EC), I don’t think it would completely solve the underlying problems.

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wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:40:18am

“Ratzon” by Klezmerson ((Videoclip Oficial))

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2024 • 10:43:46am

re: #224 Dr. Matt

Donnie Diapers: WHY AM I CLEANING COMMODES?! THEY ARE SO CONFLICTED. SCOTUS NEEDS TO INTERVENE NOW!

Martha Stewart had no problem with that assignment — but then neatness and cleanness were essential to her!


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