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1 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:07:10am

Report for fun: Rapping Flight Attendent

2 Sharmuta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:07:33am

re: #1 Sharmuta

Oopps- should have been "repost". Oh well- it works.

3 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:08:14am

Mecca mosques 'wrongly aligned'

Some 200 mosques in Islam's holiest city, Mecca, point the wrong way for prayers, reports from Saudi Arabia say.

All mosques have a niche showing the direction of the most sacred Islamic site, the Kaaba, an ancient cube-like building in Mecca's Grand Mosque.

But people looking down from recently built high-rises in Mecca found the niches in many older mosques were not pointing directly towards the Kaaba.

Some worshippers are said to be anxious about the validity of their prayers.

/OH NOES!

4 pat  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:10:28am

Still waiting for the sun here. Dark and cold.

5 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:10:56am

AHHH,,, the calm tranquility and civility of an OPEN THREAD

1st one to mess it up gets bitch slapped

6 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:11:18am

re: #4 pat

Still waiting for the sun here. Dark and cold.

well ,, it IS 3 a.m !


j/k

7 Timbre  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:11:39am

re: #3 Killian Bundy

I thought geometry and Al-gebra was their specialty. I think this nullifies everything.

8 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:13:23am

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Mecca mosques 'wrongly aligned'


/OH NOES!

someone is going to have to literally FALL ON THEIR SWORDS for this!

9 paint-right  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:13:27am

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Mecca mosques 'wrongly aligned'

/OH NOES!

re wrongly aligned mosques:

legalism, legalism, legalism

even when sharia comes they will eat each other alive finding minute faults with clothing, headgear, bricks, mortar..you name it

10 Kronocide  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:14:00am

Dammit! Was going to mow lawn and wash truck, but Open Thread. Dammit!

11 garden18  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:14:00am

I would just like to reiterate the well-known fact that whatever happens to Jews and Israel is a "canary in the coal mine" for the world at large. Just as the world has displayed apathy towards rockets being fired daily into Israel, apathy is now demonstrated towards a test-rocket fired from Korea, allowing that country to gain eneormous leverage in any ensuing political maneuverings. Soon, Iranian made missiles will be fired from Venezuela into the United States and nothing may be done except to refer the matter to the United Nations.

12 jcm  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:14:20am

The hamsters have a new car....

13 Racer X  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:14:23am

Jeff Gordon sucks!

14 markie  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:14:35am

Shaping up to be a great day weatherwise in the Great NorthWest. The news is still depressing as usual.

15 Kronocide  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:14:44am

Muslim humor (if there is any):

Heads will roll!

(HT to another lizard)

16 abaleh  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:15:03am

re: #11 garden18

I would just like to reiterate the well-known fact that whatever happens to Jews and Israel is a "canary in the coal mine" for the world at large. Just as the world has displayed apathy towards rockets being fired daily into Israel, apathy is now demonstrated towards a test-rocket fired from Korea, allowing that country to gain eneormous leverage in any ensuing political maneuverings. Soon, Iranian made missiles will be fired from Venezuela into the United States and nothing may be done except to refer the matter to the United Nations.

Not to worry, I believe the White House is furiously writing a strongly worded letter.

17 paint-right  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:15:14am

re: #11 garden18

I would just like to reiterate the well-known fact that whatever happens to Jews and Israel is a "canary in the coal mine" for the world at large. Just as the world has displayed apathy towards rockets being fired daily into Israel, apathy is now demonstrated towards a test-rocket fired from Korea, allowing that country to gain eneormous leverage in any ensuing political maneuverings. Soon, Iranian made missiles will be fired from Venezuela into the United States and nothing may be done except to refer the matter to the United Nations.

the strongly worded post card will suffice

18 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:15:18am

re: #7 Timbre

I thought geometry and Al-gebra was their specialty. I think this nullifies everything.

Wasn't - they only made some clever infidels work it out for them.
And that 'zero', well they stole it from the Indians (no, not your lot, the lot who loathe the Pakistani!)

19 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:15:32am

re: #10 BigPapa

Dammit! Was going to mow lawn and wash truck, but Open Thread. Dammit!

Well you could mow the truck and wash the lawn...:)

20 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:15:47am

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Mecca mosques 'wrongly aligned'


/OH NOES!


it would be more appropriate for all mosques face towards hell ...

21 BryanS  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:16:25am

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Mecca mosques 'wrongly aligned'

/OH NOES!

So mosques are being rightly maligned for being mal-aligned

22 DaddyG  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:16:29am

Ahhh that new thread smell.

Obama is refusing to accept repayment of TARP funds. Gee whoda thunk he'd want to control the banks and industry? Its not like he told Joe the plumber that it wasnt about generating revenue but distributing it to the right people.

//

23 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:17:07am

re: #20 _RememberTonyC

it would be more appropriate for all mosques face towards hell ...

Towards Fenway?
//just kidding.

24 Timbre  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:18:14am

re: #10 BigPapa

re: #19 Dustyvet

Let's wash the open thread and mow the Internet for Charles!

25 DaddyG  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:18:21am

Big Ten / ACC NCAA final. Gotta give the Big East a hand for a fabulous season though.

As a Big Ten graduate I've got to root for Michigan State. (Dad's Alma Mater)

26 jcm  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:18:22am

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Mecca mosques 'wrongly aligned'

/OH NOES!

A zionist conspiracy caused their compasses to point the wrong way!

27 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:18:30am

re: #12 jcm

Hamsters will soon get very fat if they use their new car ...

:-)

28 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:18:54am

re: #24 Timbre

re: #19 Dustyvet

Let's wash the open thread and mow the Internet for Charles!

Great idea...:)

29 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:19:05am

BAGHDAD (AFP) - - Iraq plans to open a museum filled with toppled dictator Saddam Hussein's weapons, statues, paintings, furniture and artefacts, officials told AFP on Saturday.

[Link: sg.news.yahoo.com...]

I'm glad they have their priorities in order?

30 subsailor68  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:19:10am

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Mecca mosques 'wrongly aligned'

/OH NOES!

But people looking down from recently built high-rises in Mecca found the niches in many older mosques were not pointing directly towards the Kaaba.

Some worshippers are said to be anxious about the validity of their prayers.

Hey, didn't these guys claim to have invented math?

This is kind of like NASA getting the decimal point wrong in pre-launch calculations:

"Some astronauts are said to be anxious about the possibility of missing the moon by several billion miles."

31 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:19:11am

re: #23 Nevergiveup

Towards Fenway?
//just kidding.

yankee fan?

32 paint-right  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:19:31am

re: #21 BryanS

So mosques are being rightly maligned for being mal-aligned

brillig!

33 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:19:56am

re: #27 yma o hyd

Hamsters will soon get very fat if they use their new car ...

:-)

[Link: rpc.blogrolling.com...]

34 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:20:11am

re: #31 _RememberTonyC

yankee fan?

kinda obvious I guess.

35 NYCHardhat  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:20:19am

It seems to me that Obama is experiencing some actual events during his presidency. Bush had is faults, but was not as inept as this guy. The only thing I like Obama for is his status quo on turning terrorists into grease spots via killer drones.

36 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:20:30am
37 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:20:50am

re: #33 Dustyvet

[Link: rpc.blogrolling.com...]

Dang it wrong link showed up...

38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:20:59am

re: #13 Racer X

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

39 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:21:12am

re: #35 NYCHardhat

It seems to me that Obama is experiencing some actual events during his presidency. Bush had is faults, but was not as inept as this guy. The only thing I like Obama for is his status quo on turning terrorists into grease spots via killer drones.

That's just a carry over policy from Bush. Wait until Obama hears about it?

40 scottishbuzzsaw  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:21:24am
41 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:21:26am

re: #36 pink freud

Rasmussen:

57% Want Military Response to North Korea Missile Launch

Sadly, none of the 57% has the ear of the President

42 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:21:54am

re: #27 yma o hyd

Hamsters will soon get very fat if they use their new car ...

:-)

Image: HammyCar06.JPG

43 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:22:10am

re: #36 pink freud

Rasmussen:

57% Want Military Response to North Korea Missile Launch

But yet only 47 voted Republican? What did those confused voters think Obama was gonna do?

44 paint-right  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:22:31am

re: #36 pink freud

Rasmussen:

57% Want Military Response to North Korea Missile Launch

The second launch should be blown outta the sky just to show them we can and will do it.

45 abaleh  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:22:53am

And in other North Korean news:
a theatre of plot-breeding and swindling

46 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:23:04am

re: #34 Nevergiveup

kinda obvious I guess.

Oh well ... I am an inclusive sort of guy :) As long as you aren't a Knicks fan ...

47 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:23:04am

re: #43 Nevergiveup

But yet only 47 voted Republican? What did those confused voters think Obama was gonna do?

They thought that North Korea, Iran et al were automatically going to play nice just becasue "we" elected Obama

48 Racer X  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:23:05am

re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Hahahahahahahahaha!

49 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:23:11am

re: #40 scottishbuzzsaw

Dis jus rong.

SSHHH!
*whisper* ... I've got that one in my hopper for goddess

/:D

50 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:23:15am

re: #41 sattv4u2

Sadly, none of the 57% has the ear of the President

/more like 99% of the population doesn't have ears that freakishly large

51 BryanS  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:23:52am

re: #44 paint-right

The second launch should be blown outta the sky just to show them we can and will do it.

Well, there won't be a second launch simply because Obama is going to tell on the N Koreans to the UN. They're in such big trouble.

52 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:24:16am

re: #46 _RememberTonyC

Oh well ... I am an inclusive sort of guy :) As long as you aren't a Knicks fan ...

Not since Reed and Frazier were playing. I hate them and their asshole owner now. Go Celtics.

53 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:24:21am

re: #43 Nevergiveup

But yet only 47 voted Republican? What did those confused voters think Obama was gonna do?

Far be it from me to understand the liberal mind.

54 paint-right  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:24:30am

re: #51 BryanS

Well, there won't be a second launch simply because Obama is going to tell on the N Koreans to the UN. They're in such big trouble.

detention? I mean after school , not lunch!

55 DaddyG  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:24:37am

re: #51 BryanS

Well, there won't be a second launch simply because Obama is going to tell on the N Koreans to the UN. They're in such big trouble.

Strongly worded resolutions are soooo much more serious than strongly worded letters.
//

56 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:24:59am

re: #37 Dustyvet

Dang it wrong link showed up...

I did wonder about that ....

;-)

57 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:25:03am

re: #52 Nevergiveup

Not since Reed and Frazier were playing. I hate them and their asshole owner now. Go Celtics.

and there is one team we probably mutually hate .... the mets (spit)

58 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:25:10am

Obama Wants to Control the Banks
There's a reason he refuses to accept repayment of TARP money.

I must be naive. I really thought the administration would welcome the return of bank bailout money. Some $340 million in TARP cash flowed back this week from four small banks in Louisiana, New York, Indiana and California. This isn't much when we routinely talk in trillions, but clearly that money has not been wasted or otherwise sunk down Wall Street's black hole. So why no cheering as the cash comes back?

My answer: The government wants to control the banks, just as it now controls GM and Chrysler, and will surely control the health industry in the not-too-distant future. Keeping them TARP-stuffed is the key to control. And for this intensely political president, mere influence is not enough. The White House wants to tell 'em what to do. Control. Direct. Command.

It is not for nothing that rage has been turned on those wicked financiers. The banks are at the core of the administration's thrust: By managing the money, government can steer the whole economy even more firmly down the left fork in the road.

If the banks are forced to keep TARP cash -- which was often forced on them in the first place -- the Obama team can work its will on the financial system to unprecedented degree. That's what's happening right now.

59 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:25:30am

re: #47 sattv4u2

They thought that North Korea, Iran et al were automatically going to play nice just becasue "we" elected Obama

They should have their voting rights revoked! Being stupid and uninformed is no way to go thru life.

60 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:25:44am

re: #40 scottishbuzzsaw

Dis jus rong.

Awwwwww .....!

61 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:25:53am

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Mecca mosques 'wrongly aligned'

/OH NOES!

It won't take long for them to figure out a way to blame the Zionists.

62 Kronocide  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:26:06am

Is there any validation to this story about TARP repayments not being accepted? If so, this is VSS. (Very Serious Shit)

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

63 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:26:15am

re: #58 gmsc

Obama Wants to Control the Banks
There's a reason he refuses to accept repayment of TARP money.

How diabolical.

64 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:26:59am

re: #58 gmsc

Obama Wants to Control the Banks
There's a reason he refuses to accept repayment of TARP money.

re: #62 BigPapa

Is there any validation to this story about TARP repayments not being accepted? If so, this is VSS. (Very Serious Shit)

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

GMTA!

65 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:27:03am

re: #41 sattv4u2

Sadly, none of the 57% has the ears of the President

FTFY - so we can all heave a sigh of relief!

;-)

66 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:27:14am

1. Teaching Maths In 1970

A logger sells a lorry load of timber for £1000.
His cost of production is 4/5 of the selling price.
What is his profit?


2. Teaching Maths In 1980

A logger sells a lorry load of timber for £1000.
His cost of production is 4/5 of the selling price, or £800.
What is his profit?


3. Teaching Maths In 1990
A logger sells a lorry load of timber for £1000.
His cost of production is £800.
Did he make a profit?


4. Teaching Maths In 2000

A logger sells a lorry load of timber for £1000.
His cost of production is £800 and his profit is £200.
Your assignment: Underline the number 200.


5. Teaching Maths In 2008

A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is totally selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the preservation of our woodlands.
He does this so he can make a profit of £200. What do you think of this way of making a living?
Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the birds and squirrels feel as the bad logger cut down their homes? (There are no wrong answers..
If you are upset about the plight of the animals in question counselling will be available)


6. Teaching Maths 2018

أ المسجل تبيع حموله شاحنة من الخشب من دولار. صاحب تكلفة الانتاج من> الثمن. ما هو الربح له؟

67 DEZes  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:27:31am

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Mecca mosques 'wrongly aligned'

/OH NOES!

Those damned cheap Zionist compasses.
//

68 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:27:31am

re: #57 _RememberTonyC

and there is one team we probably mutually hate .... the mets (spit)

Yeah, to bad about Ollie Perez's last outing. I was in an Outback in New London watching that. Actually went there thinking they might have the Yankees game on. Idiot that I am, forgot it was Red Sox Nation up there.

69 paint-right  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:27:33am

It' s such a beautiful day here in the northeast, but I'm posting just to prove I'm still here....I read the threads a lot every day and post less frequently than in previous times... but I come here for the latest links and the repartee... and the drama. of course.

70 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:27:39am

re: #43 Nevergiveup

But yet only 47 voted Republican? What did those confused voters think Obama was gonna do?

Drives me nuts. The other thing that drives me nuts is polls showing Obama's popularity around 60%. Who are these people that obviously voted against him but are now thinking he's great?
Or is it that the polls will be talking to people who didn't vote in the first place?
Bottom line is I hate polls because I think their primary intent is to manipulate.

71 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:28:03am

re: #62 BigPapa

Is there any validation to this story about TARP repayments not being accepted? If so, this is VSS. (Very Serious Shit)

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

He can refuse my tax payment if he wants to?

72 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:28:04am

re: #42 Dustyvet

[Link: z.about.com...]

Thats nice!

Now that hamster won't get fat, for sure!

73 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:28:27am

re: #56 yma o hyd

I did wonder about that ....

;-)

I reposted it...for you:) with the right link...:) Please see #42...

74 DaddyG  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:28:32am

52% of poll results are made up on the spot.

75 jcm  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:28:52am

re: #70 LGoPs

Drives me nuts. The other thing that drives me nuts is polls showing Obama's popularity around 60%. Who are these people that obviously voted against him but are now thinking he's great?
Or is it that the polls will be talking to people who didn't vote in the first place?
Bottom line is I hate polls because I think their primary intent is to manipulate.

Do the polls ask voters, or just around the news room?

76 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:28:55am

re: #74 DaddyG

52% of poll results are made up on the spot.

Well half the time they are.

77 The Other Les  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:29:05am

Good afternoon from the Central time zone.

78 Colonel Panik  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:29:15am

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Mecca mosques 'wrongly aligned'

/OH NOES!

Didn't Osama's father's construction company build a lot of those mosques?

79 Charles Johnson  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:29:59am

re: #62 BigPapa

Is there any validation to this story about TARP repayments not being accepted? If so, this is VSS. (Very Serious Shit)

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

I am highly skeptical of that story.

Note that the source for it is Andrew Napolitano, who also calls Alex Jones, "the one, the only, the great Alex Jones."

80 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:30:01am

re: #58 gmsc

That Op Ed isn't real strong on facts and details.

/if true, this is a huge news story and I haven't seen any other reporting on that, in fact it seems that banks are scrambling to repay the TARP money, now that it obvious that it comes with Barney Frank and Tim Geithner humping your legs

81 jcm  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:30:04am

re: #74 DaddyG

52% of poll results are made up on the spot.



There is even a link for that!

82 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:30:05am

re: #70 LGoPs

The other thing that drives me nuts is polls showing Obama's popularity around 60%. Who are these people that obviously voted against him but are now thinking he's great?
Polling is skewed. Lets say that poll 1,000 people "randomley"
They'll poll 750 from urbam areas and 250 from the sticks. Overwhelmingly, large cities vote DEMOCRAT, whereas country vote consrvatively

hence, the polls are automatically going to lean left!

83 NYCHardhat  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:30:07am

re: #39 Nevergiveup

That's just a carry over policy from Bush. Wait until Obama hears about it?

good point. do you think he doesn't know?

84 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:30:15am

Question on the refusal of TARP repayment:

I thought, since we use fiat money, that an offer to repay a debt effectively ends the debt, even if repayment is refused. Doesn't that apply here?

85 Spar Kling  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:30:19am

re: #11 garden18

I would just like to reiterate the well-known fact that whatever happens to Jews and Israel is a "canary in the coal mine" for the world at large. Just as the world has displayed apathy towards rockets being fired daily into Israel, apathy is now demonstrated towards a test-rocket fired from Korea, allowing that country to gain eneormous leverage in any ensuing political maneuverings. Soon, Iranian made missiles will be fired from Venezuela into the United States and nothing may be done except to refer the matter to the United Nations.

Indeed. And here's one of my favorite quotes relevant today regarding Israel. It was written in 1938 by Czech writer, Karel Capek, who wrote a statesman's guide saying:

Treaties are made to be kept by weaker nations. The efforts of statesmen have succeeded in completely maintaining collective insecurity. In the interests of peace, energetic measures against the victims of aggressions must be taken. Localizing a conflict: leaving the victim to his fate. Liquidating a conflict: amputating his legs in addition. No sacrifice made by others is too much for the cause of peace. The Czechs have not been sold out-just given away for nothing.

Emphasis added.

-sk

86 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:30:22am

re: #72 yma o hyd

Thats nice!

Now that hamster won't get fat, for sure!

Image: funny-pictures-your-hamster-mechani.jpg

87 The Other Les  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:30:29am

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Mecca mosques 'wrongly aligned'

/OH NOES!

They'll blame the Jews, of course


/sarcasm

88 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:30:32am

re: #68 Nevergiveup

Yeah, to bad about Ollie Perez's last outing. I was in an Outback in New London watching that. Actually went there thinking they might have the Yankees game on. Idiot that I am, forgot it was Red Sox Nation up there.

I live in the hartford area ... which is literally the mason/dixon line on the battlefield between yankee/red sox loyalty. in my little world, it's about 45% yankee fans, 45% sox fans, and 10% mets fans.

89 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:30:59am

re: #79 Charles

I am highly skeptical of that story.

Note that the source for it is Andrew Napolitano, who also calls Alex Jones, "the one, the only, the great Alex Jones."

re: #80 Killian Bundy

That Op Ed isn't real strong on facts and details.

/if true, this is a huge news story and I haven't seen any other reporting on that, in fact it seems that banks are scrambling to repay the TARP money, now that it obvious that it comes with Barney Frank and Tim Geithner humping your legs

Thanks for the clarification.

90 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:31:06am

re: #75 jcm

Do the polls ask voters, or just around the news room?

I am so jaded about the MFM that I wouldn't be surprised if the pollster only asked himself.........

91 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:31:21am

re: #84 gmsc

Question on the refusal of TARP repayment:

I thought, since we use fiat money, that an offer to repay a debt effectively ends the debt, even if repayment is refused. Doesn't that apply here?

GOV'T makes the rules, not abides by them!

92 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:31:22am

re: #83 NYCHardhat

good point. do you think he doesn't know?

Not sure what he knows, but he thinks the UN is important so.....

93 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:31:44am

re: #75 jcm

Do the polls ask voters, or just around the news room?

Randomly generated numbers on the PC, since we're all so scientific nowadays.
Before the intertubes, they'd just rolled dice and tossed coins.

94 NYCHardhat  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:32:28am

re: #92 Nevergiveup

Not sure what he knows, but he thinks the UN is important so.....

touche

95 The Other Les  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:32:36am

re: #20 _RememberTonyC

it would be more appropriate for all mosques face towards hell ...

The Kabaa marks the gate to damnation.

Or it would if I wasn't an atheist.

96 BryanS  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:32:40am

re: #91 sattv4u2

GOV'T makes the rules, not abides by them!

Our elected officials not paying taxes, for instance, is case in point.

97 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:33:42am

re: #86 Dustyvet

[Link: i158.photobucket.com...]

Awwww .....!

:-)))

98 OldLineTexan  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:33:55am

re: #96 BryanS

Our elected officials not paying taxes, for instance, is case in point.

I thought that was just anyone Obama tries to select, not elect.

/

99 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:33:59am

Good Afternoon Lizards!
Hope today finds everyone well and healthy...

100 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:34:15am

MSM
the feds
UN
I hate em all, in that order

101 Randall Gross  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:34:16am

argggg

Ben Stein on with Cavuto flipping to CNN

102 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:34:17am

Barack Obama made an impassioned plea to America’s allies to send more troops to Afghanistan, warning that failure to do so would leave Europe vulnerable to more terrorist atrocities.

But though he continued to dazzle Europeans on his debut international tour, the Continent’s leaders turned their backs on the US President.

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Bet we will not see any stories that the EU hates us? They love us now, but still told us to fuck off.

103 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:34:27am

re: #82 sattv4u2

The other thing that drives me nuts is polls showing Obama's popularity around 60%. Who are these people that obviously voted against him but are now thinking he's great?
Polling is skewed. Lets say that poll 1,000 people "randomley"
They'll poll 750 from urbam areas and 250 from the sticks. Overwhelmingly, large cities vote DEMOCRAT, whereas country vote consrvatively

hence, the polls are automatically going to lean left!

And the only possible purpose can be to drive the herd. The MFM are the cowboys driving the herd in the direction they want.
And at least 52% of us are fine with that........

104 irongrampa  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:35:28am

By no means a financier, but wouldn't refusal to accept debt payment be a means of retaining some measure of control over a debtor?

105 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:35:34am

re: #79 Charles

I am highly skeptical of that story.

Note that the source for it is Andrew Napolitano, who also calls Alex Jones, "the one, the only, the great Alex Jones."


I think Roger Ailes needs to get the Judge, Glenn Beck, and their producers in a room and whack them all across the head with a clue bat. None of them really appear to be evil, but all are in need of some cranial tweaking.

106 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:36:00am

re: #93 yma o hyd

Randomly generated numbers on the PC, since we're all so scientific nowadays.
Before the intertubes, they'd just rolled dice and tossed coins.

Actually, dice and coins are better random number generators than computers. Dice and coins are True Random Number Generators (TRNGs), as opposed to most computers, which use Pseudo-Random Number Generators (PRNGs). Although there are specially-built computers that can be used as TRNGs.

A more detailed discussion of the difference can be found at Random.org.

107 BryanS  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:36:27am

re: #98 OldLineTexan

I thought that was just anyone Obama tries to select, not elect.

/

He knows how to pick em . That's for sure.

108 Killgore Trout  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:36:37am

re: #79 Charles

I'm a little freaked out that WSJ ran that piece. I've come to expect that stuff from Fox but WSJ is supposed to be real news.

109 Kronocide  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:36:47am

re: #58 gmsc

I'm trying to verify Varney's story. All the links I've seen on it quote Varney's story on WSJ. I like Varney but I need to verify this before I run with it. He's not proven himself to be infallible.

Can anybody back up Varney?

110 The Other Les  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:36:54am

re: #66 WhiteRasta

When I finally left high school in 1979 I promised myself that I would never willingly put a child into the public education system.

This is not the way I would want to vindicate that decision.

111 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:37:17am

re: #105 _RememberTonyC

I think Roger Ailes needs to get the Judge, Glenn Beck, and their producers in a room and whack them all across the head with a clue bat. None of them really appear to be evil, but all are in need of some cranial tweaking.

I assume you mean Geraldo is beyond repair?

112 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:37:47am

the feds lie to us...cheat us...bully us around and we pay them to do it...waxing philosophical

113 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:38:03am

re: #95 The Other Les

The Kabaa marks the gate to damnation.

Or it would if I wasn't an atheist.


You know, if I were the Israelis, I'd make it crystal clear that if anything remotely resembling nuclear material were ever to be thrust onto Israeli soil, the kabaa would be ground zero for their first retaliatory strike.

114 BryanS  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:38:17am

re: #102 Nevergiveup

Barack Obama made an impassioned plea to America’s allies to send more troops to Afghanistan, warning that failure to do so would leave Europe vulnerable to more terrorist atrocities.

But though he continued to dazzle Europeans on his debut international tour, the Continent’s leaders turned their backs on the US President.

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Bet we will not see any stories that the EU hates us? They love us now, but still told us to fuck off.


And the Afghan war was supposed to be the righteous one. Wasn't winding down Iraq supposed to make the Zeropeans want to help us again? Or was that only going to work if Bush left in a way to make us lose the war?

115 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:38:24am

re: #99 HoosierHoops

Good Afternoon Lizards!
Hope today finds everyone well and healthy...

Hiya, {HH}!

Its Sneezeville here - I dunno, if there was ID, why do we have tree pollen when people are allergic to them?
I mean - He must have known that, surely?

(Ok, sorry, I'll go stand kneel in a corner and say a few 'Hail Mary's' for that, sorreee ...)

116 irongrampa  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:38:36am

re: #109 BigPapa

Thought I read (on a blog) that the NYT had an article on this. Don't suscribe so can't be sure.

117 NYCHardhat  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:38:42am

re: #112 albusteve

the feds lie to us...cheat us...bully us around and we pay them to do it...waxing philosophical

you always hurt the one you love.///

118 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:38:45am

re: #108 Killgore Trout

I'm a little freaked out that WSJ ran that piece. I've come to expect that stuff from Fox but WSJ is supposed to be real news.

It's the opinion page KT...Everyone that writes well gets a shot to express their version of truth and opinion

119 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:38:51am

re: #108 Killgore Trout

re: #113 _RememberTonyC

I suspect the barbarians have been told that.......

120 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:39:14am

re: #111 Nevergiveup

I assume you mean Geraldo is beyond repair?

they should just let Michelle Malkin spank his butt ... just for fun.

121 formercorpsman  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:39:44am

re: #36 pink freud

You know, when you consider it, sure makes sense.

We have been placing our troops in the DMZ for more than 50 years.

It only makes a bigger headache for them in the long run.

122 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:39:47am

re: #109 BigPapa

I'm trying to verify Varney's story. All the links I've seen on it quote Varney's story on WSJ. I like Varney but I need to verify this before I run with it. He's not proven himself to be infallible.

Can anybody back up Varney?

Well, Judge Napolitano and Alex Jones can, but . . .

123 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:40:01am

re: #108 Killgore Trout

I'm a little freaked out that WSJ ran that piece. I've come to expect that stuff from Fox but WSJ is supposed to be real news.

Well, for starters, it's an Op Ed, not a news article.

/and FOX (News Corporation) owns the WSJ now

124 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:40:04am

re: #108 Killgore Trout

I'm a little freaked out that WSJ ran that piece. I've come to expect that stuff from Fox but WSJ is supposed to be real news.

sources mean nothing anymore...in six months the WSJ might be shilling for the Nazis for all we know...a few blogs can be trusted but anything can happen so just wait and see

125 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:40:40am

re: #119 WhiteRasta

re: #113 _RememberTonyC

I suspect the barbarians have been told that.......

one would think so, wouldn't one?

126 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:40:42am

Axelrod hits back at Cheney: He has not been acting like a ‘statesman.’

Vice President Cheney has used his public appearances in recent months to launch fearmongering attacks against the Obama administration, in contrast to President Bush, who said Obama “deserves my silence.” Today on CNN’s State of the Union, Senior White House Adviser David Axelrod hit Cheney for not acting like a “statesman“:

AXELROD: [President Bush] has behaved like a statesman. And as I’ve said before, here and elsewhere, I just don’t think the memo got passed down to the vice president.

Hahaha! I don't think Jimmah 'the rabbit' Cahtuh got that memo either.

127 Colonel Panik  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:40:57am

So, did Ronery Boy's rocket rearry raunch a saterrite, or did a dummy warhead land somewhere?

128 Kronocide  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:41:00am

re: #79 Charles

Exactly. I like Varney a lot, but the Napolitano mention is a mental note down ding in credibility. File it as 'still checking this out....'?

129 Desert Dog  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:41:02am

re: #114 BryanS

And the Afghan war was supposed to be the righteous one. Wasn't winding down Iraq supposed to make the Zeropeans want to help us again? Or was that only going to work if Bush left in a way to make us lose the war?

The Europeans can't fight any longer, they do not have a real army (the Brits being the lone exception) and their populations have been pussified to the point where they do not even defend themselves when threatened. They've gotten fat and lazy under the wings of the USA.

One day, and perhaps sooner than they know, Europe will pay a high price for their mindset.

130 itellu3times  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:41:28am

Is this one of those 11-dimensional threads that the universe is made of?

131 Desert Dog  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:42:19am

re: #126 pink freud

Axelrod hits back at Cheney: He has not been acting like a ‘statesman.’

Vice President Cheney has used his public appearances in recent months to launch fearmongering attacks against the Obama administration, in contrast to President Bush, who said Obama “deserves my silence.” Today on CNN’s State of the Union, Senior White House Adviser David Axelrod hit Cheney for not acting like a “statesman“:

AXELROD: [President Bush] has behaved like a statesman. And as I’ve said before, here and elsewhere, I just don’t think the memo got passed down to the vice president.

Hahaha! I don't think Jimmah 'the rabbit' Cahtuh got that memo either.

In a world of comparison, I'd take the Patton-like Cheney over the the Nevil Chamberlain inspired Obama anyday.

132 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:42:38am

re: #127 Colonel Panik

I understand it splashed down. I hope there are heads rolling right about now.......

133 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:42:42am

re: #102 Nevergiveup

Barack Obama made an impassioned plea to America’s allies to send more troops to Afghanistan, warning that failure to do so would leave Europe vulnerable to more terrorist atrocities.

But though he continued to dazzle Europeans on his debut international tour, the Continent’s leaders turned their backs on the US President.

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Bet we will not see any stories that the EU hates us? They love us now, but still told us to fuck off.

Dunno about the rest of Europe - but here in the UK, some proper journalists ahve now looked at the small print of the G20 summit - and they are scathing.

Here is a particularly corruscating analysis:
Gordon Brown’s gang pulls a $1 trillion con trick

Worth reading - nobody does elegant sarcasm as well as a highly educated Englishman ...

134 Killgore Trout  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:42:44am

re: #123 Killian Bundy

I think it's irresponsible to give a platform to conspiracy theorists. I'd say the same thing if they were running op-ed from 9-11 Truthers or Nirth Cert kooks.

135 Colonel Panik  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:42:47am

re: #126 pink freud

Axelrod, you don't want to f*** with Dick Cheney.

Popcorn time!

136 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:43:06am

re: #126 pink freud

Axelrod hits back at Cheney: He has not been acting like a ‘statesman.’

Vice President Cheney has used his public appearances in recent months to launch fearmongering attacks against the Obama administration, in contrast to President Bush, who said Obama “deserves my silence.” Today on CNN’s State of the Union, Senior White House Adviser David Axelrod hit Cheney for not acting like a “statesman“:

AXELROD: [President Bush] has behaved like a statesman. And as I’ve said before, here and elsewhere, I just don’t think the memo got passed down to the vice president.

Hahaha! I don't think Jimmah 'the rabbit' Cahtuh got that memo either.

Fuck Axelrod. Was he as respectful and deferential of President Bush during the last 8 years? No, only now when he can use Bush's example to make a political point. Fuck liberals.

137 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:43:07am

re: #129 Desert Dog

The Europeans can't fight any longer, they do not have a real army (the Brits being the lone exception) and their populations have been pussified to the point where they do not even defend themselves when threatened. They've gotten fat and lazy under the wings of the USA.

One day, and perhaps sooner than they know, Europe will pay a high price for their mindset.

they hide their cowardice behind phony diplomacy...they are worse than useless, not only will they not fight but get in the way of those that will

138 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:43:49am
sources mean nothing anymore...in six months the WSJ might be shilling for the Nazis for all we know...a few blogs can be trusted but anything can happen so just wait and see

The sad part is 6 months ago that would have had a conspiratorial and alarmist ring to it. Now, not so much.

139 BryanS  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:43:58am

re: #129 Desert Dog

The Europeans can't fight any longer, they do not have a real army (the Brits being the lone exception) and their populations have been pussified to the point where they do not even defend themselves when threatened. They've gotten fat and lazy under the wings of the USA.

One day, and perhaps sooner than they know, Europe will pay a high price for their mindset.

I've always thought we've overstayed in Europe. Shouldn't we continue drawing down our forces from there, except for some of the Eastern countries who need our protection to balance Russian expansionism? Europe acts like spoiled kids in part because we treat them as such. Let's give them fair warning we're outa there and then do so.

140 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:44:28am

re: #115 yma o hyd

Hiya, {HH}!

Its Sneezeville here - I dunno, if there was ID, why do we have tree pollen when people are allergic to them?
I mean - He must have known that, surely?

(Ok, sorry, I'll go stand kneel in a corner and say a few 'Hail Mary's' for that, sorreee ...)

Hi Luv..
I grew up in Napa Valley..There are a gazllion mustard trees there.. I've done my share of sneezing! Hope you get feeling better..
Moving to Indiana is kindof funny..Everybody here in the onslaught of spring has been sneezing and people have allergies really ba1d..
For us it's like..Are you f*cking kidding me? This is play school

141 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:44:29am

re: #133 yma o hyd

Dunno about the rest of Europe - but here in the UK, some proper journalists ahve now looked at the small print of the G20 summit - and they are scathing.

Here is a particularly corruscating analysis:
Gordon Brown’s gang pulls a $1 trillion con trick

Worth reading - nobody does elegant sarcasm as well as a highly educated Englishman ...

Yeah Harry Seacomb, Spike Milligan, and Peter Sellers...:)

The Goons...:)

142 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:44:47am

re: #134 Killgore Trout

I think it's irresponsible to give a platform to conspiracy theorists. I'd say the same thing if they were running op-ed from 9-11 Truthers or Nirth Cert kooks.

you can trust me Killgore...I won't lie to you...
mwahahahaha!

143 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:44:48am

re: #124 albusteve

sources mean nothing anymore...in six months the WSJ might be shilling for the Nazis for all we know...a few blogs can be trusted but anything can happen so just wait and see

New idea for a blog: The "24 Hour Rule" blog – it would be dedicated to seemingly spectacular stories like the TARP repayment refusal story, and follow it until it's confirmed with other sources and more details, or until it's debunked.

Special attention could be given to repeatedly unreliable sources, too.

If anyone wants to steal the idea and the name, please do so (although a little mention under "About The Blog" would be nice if you do use it!).

144 Desert Dog  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:45:25am

re: #139 BryanS

I've always thought we've overstayed in Europe. Shouldn't we continue drawing down our forces from there, except for some of the Eastern countries who need our protection to balance Russian expansionism? Europe acts like spoiled kids in part because we treat them as such. Let's give them fair warning we're outa there and then do so.

If we stay much longer, we will be defending the Europeans from their own immigrants.....I say we should let them sleep in the bed they have made for themselves.

145 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:45:35am

re: #131 Desert Dog

In a world of comparison, I'd take the Patton-like Cheney over the the Nevil Chamberlain inspired Obama anyday.

I'd vote for the man for Pres in a heartbeat. Depending on what unfolds in the next four years, it could happen.

146 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:45:45am

re: #89 gmsc

Thanks for the clarification.

More grist for the mill:

President Obama’s First 70 Days - It really does all make sense.
victorhanson.com

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

147 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:45:57am

re: #106 gmsc

Actually, dice and coins are better random number generators than computers. Dice and coins are True Random Number Generators (TRNGs), as opposed to most computers, which use Pseudo-Random Number Generators (PRNGs). Although there are specially-built computers that can be used as TRNGs.

A more detailed discussion of the difference can be found at Random.org.

Thanks - duly hearted, and updinged!

So FDR wasn't that weird when he decided the daily exchange rate of the $/gold by flipping a coin ...

148 esch  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:46:01am

re: #144 Desert Dog

If we stay much longer, we will be defending the Europeans from their own immigrants.....I say we should let them sleep in the bed they have made for themselves.

1000 updings.

Pain is the best teacher.

149 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:46:03am

Declaring the future of mankind at stake, President Barack Obama said Sunday all nations must strive to rid the world of nuclear arms and that the U.S. had a “moral responsibility” to lead as the only country ever to use one

[Link: www.navytimes.com...]

This naive fuck is gonna get us all killed.

150 solomonpanting  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:46:06am

re: #127 Colonel Panik

So, did Ronery Boy's rocket rearry raunch a saterrite, or did a dummy warhead land somewhere?

NKorean rocket appears to fizzle, prompts outcry

SEOUL, South Korea – The rocket launched by nuclear-armed North Korea on Sunday appears to have fizzled in the Pacific Ocean, but positioned a defiant Kim Jong Il to make demands from an international community worried that it indicates the capacity to fire a long-range missile.

Perhaps a US response should be "Here, this is how you do it."

151 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:46:23am

re: #130 itellu3times

Is this one of those 11-dimensional threads that the universe is made of?

Something like that.

If you'd like to learn how to visualize the 10th dimension, check out these videos:

Part 1

Part 2

152 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:46:24am

re: #135 Colonel Panik

Axelrod, you don't want to f*** with Dick Cheney.

Popcorn time!

The Ankle-biter vs. Darth Vader.

153 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:46:24am

I want one of dis for my birthday!

[Link: www.princetonwatches.com...]

If I make a wish to the Birthday Pumpkin, do you think he will bring me one?

154 albusteve  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:46:52am

re: #143 gmsc

New idea for a blog: The "24 Hour Rule" blog – it would be dedicated to seemingly spectacular stories like the TARP repayment refusal story, and follow it until it's confirmed with other sources and more details, or until it's debunked.

Special attention could be given to repeatedly unreliable sources, too.

If anyone wants to steal the idea and the name, please do so (although a little mention under "About The Blog" would be nice if you do use it!).

I just look at the pictures anyways

155 formercorpsman  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:47:29am

re: #148 esch

Boot camp.
Pain engages the brain.
I will never forget that saying, or 3/1 day.

156 Right mind left  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:47:51am

Here is an article that references two banks applying to give back TARP money. I still need to research the allowance on the gov't end of things, because it is a process to redeem shares. Seems to refute the claim that they are not allowed, but it is only their first filing, not the actual redemption of the funds.

[Link: bailoutsleuth.com...]

157 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:47:51am

re: #147 yma o hyd

Thanks - duly hearted, and updinged!

So FDR wasn't that weird when he decided the daily exchange rate of the $/gold by flipping a coin ...

The market would've been a better mechanism, but since FDR was a Democrat, and they do everything they can to protect individuals from their individual rights, what can you expect?

158 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:48:08am

re: #146 Bobibutu

More grist for the mill:

President Obama’s First 70 Days - It really does all make sense.
victorhanson.com

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Upding redux!

159 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:48:27am

re: #141 Dustyvet

Yeah Harry Seacomb, Spike Milligan, and Peter Sellers...:)

The Goons...:)

The Goon Show: The Jet-Propelled Guided NAAFI (Part 1)

160 Bloodnok  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:49:35am

re: #141 Dustyvet

Yeah Harry Seacomb, Spike Milligan, and Peter Sellers...:)

The Goons...:)

Quite right.

161 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:49:39am

re: #159 Dustyvet

The Goon Show: The Jet-Propelled Guided NAAFI (Part 1)

Hey DustyVet! You doing OK?

162 Dianna  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:49:42am

I'm up at last.

I see the North Koreans launched, but the missile seems to have fizzled.

Anything else happening?

163 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:49:42am

re: #134 Killgore Trout

I think it's irresponsible to give a platform to conspiracy theorists.

It might be true, we don't know, there just weren't any verifiable details.

/it's common knowledge that the government doesn't want the banks to repay the TARP funds quickly because of the capitalization implications and stigma on banks who can't quickly repay the funds, but the government refusing to accept repayment is a whole 'nother news cycle entirely

164 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:49:44am

A Navy lawyer who clashed with superiors over defense tactics for a Guantanamo detainee has been fired from the case of a Canadian accused of killing a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan, officials said Saturday.

[Link: www.navytimes.com...]

Oh boy, that's not gonna look pretty in his service record?

165 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:50:05am

re: #149 Nevergiveup

Declaring the future of mankind at stake, President Barack Obama said Sunday all nations must strive to rid the world of nuclear arms and that the U.S. had a “moral responsibility” to lead as the only country ever to use one

[Link: www.navytimes.com...]

This naive fuck is gonna get us all killed.

As someone said awhile back .....This administration will put the Onion out of business.

/ahumm! That's *President* naive fuck to you, sir!

166 Kronocide  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:50:39am

I'm not ashamed to say that I'm a Fool.

167 itellu3times  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:51:07am

re: #62 BigPapa

Is there any validation to this story about TARP repayments not being accepted? If so, this is VSS. (Very Serious Shit)

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

The head of Wells Fargo made a very similar complaint a couple of weeks ago, and even the head of BofA has said similar things, ... though BofA is trapped because they acquired the super-toxic Merrill (and then didn't pull out of the deal, because the feds "asked" them not to).

BofA is the lynch (!) pin here.

This was all to save Citibank, since AIG is in a category of its own.

But I will give Geithner and Obama this much slack, the situation is still explosively dangerous, and they have to play the game. Given that, if they play the game a little more the way they want to, it's very hard to draw the line on what to complain about.

Whatever happens, blame it on Citibank and AIG and a few others of that ilk, to a large extent Obama is just the patsy here.

168 Right mind left  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:51:23am

Here is more on the TARP issues, the gov't will decide if the banks qualify to return the funds...there are more articles, but here is one:

[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]

169 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:51:29am

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Mecca mosques 'wrongly aligned'


/OH NOES!


Check THIS out.

170 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:51:46am

re: #162 Dianna

Goodmorning sleepyhead!

171 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:51:57am

re: #161 HoosierHoops

Hey DustyVet! You doing OK?

Yes, just tired today...phone started ringing at 5 a.m. How you doing...:)

172 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:51:57am

re: #129 Desert Dog

The Europeans can't fight any longer, they do not have a real army (the Brits being the lone exception) and their populations have been pussified to the point where they do not even defend themselves when threatened. They've gotten fat and lazy under the wings of the USA.

One day, and perhaps sooner than they know, Europe will pay a high price for their mindset.

Well, to be fair - the rest of Europe was, after Hitler and WWII not in the mood to allow the Germans to show anything at all even faintly resembling military prowess.
Add to that the drip-drip-drip of moonbattery from the 1970 in education, all across Europe, and its no wonder.
Oh - and the reunification also had the condition that the East German army would have to be more or less scrapped.

Europe did not and does not want a fighting-fit Germany.
Any sign of that and everybody starts howling - no wonder the Germans are scared of even thinking about shooting at anybody.
Who wouldn't be - with those nieghbours.

173 LGoPs  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:52:41am

BBIAW

174 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:53:08am

re: #148 esch

1000 updings.

Pain is the best teacher.


yes, but I don't want to see a bunch of european Jews killed as the native euros try to appease their new overlords with the lives of these innocents.

175 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:53:27am

SFZ, did my email get through?

176 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:53:31am

re: #141 Dustyvet

Yeah Harry Seacomb, Spike Milligan, and Peter Sellers...:)

The Goons...:)

You dissing Monty Python - or did you just forget them?

;-)

177 Dianna  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:54:02am

re: #170 pink freud

Goodmorning sleepyhead!

Good morning!

Now I want a nap!

178 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:54:06am

The so-called “fighter gap” is growing, and the Navy should step up its demands for more money to buy new aircraft, according to a letter from the head of the Association for Naval Aviation.

[Link: www.navytimes.com...]

And with Administration that should go over real well? They will respond by getting of all the Aircraft Carriers thereby eliminating the "fighter gap".

179 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:54:29am

re: #174 _RememberTonyC

I tend to agree with a poster here who said the islamic takeover of Europe is G-d's punishment for the Holocaust.

180 Killgore Trout  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:54:58am

re: #163 Killian Bundy

I think there's also the concern that CEO's of failing banks might return the TARP money to protect their bonuses even if it sinks the bank. I wouldn't put this past them.

181 Shug  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:55:03am

If Barack Obama was president instead of JFK, there would be soviet nukes in Cuba.

182 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:55:06am

re: #177 Dianna

Good morning!

Now I want a nap!

Nap time, two owah, pretty lady.

183 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:55:56am

re: #171 Dustyvet

Yes, just tired today...phone started ringing at 5 a.m. How you doing...:)

I'm well Vet...
We were at a NASCAR Party but mrs. hoopster got a headache..
Can we just go home? She went to bed not feeling well..
I'm just watching racing, Blogging and totally pysched about the game Monday night for the National Championship..
Regards

184 Shug  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:56:12am

re: #180 Killgore Trout

I think there's also the concern that CEO's of failing banks might return the TARP money to protect their bonuses even if it sinks the bank. I wouldn't put this past them.

This reminds me of the Clinton administration and their caps on CEO salaries.....which led directly to the "stock options" fiascos

185 solomonpanting  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:56:29am

re: #181 Shug

If Barack Obama was president instead of JFK, there would be soviet nukes in Cuba.

Only as a launch site. They'd be in the US.

186 itellu3times  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:56:42am

re: #106 gmsc

Actually, dice and coins are better random number generators than computers. Dice and coins are True Random Number Generators (TRNGs), as opposed to most computers, which use Pseudo-Random Number Generators (PRNGs). Although there are specially-built computers that can be used as TRNGs.

A more detailed discussion of the difference can be found at Random.org.

It's pretty easy to get adequate random numbers out of a computer - use the floating-point based rnd() function, but throw out numbers near the max and min. Any number in the middle 98%, renormalized to cover 100% of the range you want, will give you good coverage.

Maybe too good, since a "real" random generator might NOT give you good coverage, but then, your coins or dice may not be perfect, either.

I fooled with this some a few years ago, writing some poker evaluation algorithms, ... made sure my random numbers were sufficiently random!

187 jcm  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:57:05am

re: #178 Nevergiveup

The so-called “fighter gap” is growing, and the Navy should step up its demands for more money to buy new aircraft, according to a letter from the head of the Association for Naval Aviation.

[Link: www.navytimes.com...]

And with Administration that should go over real well? They will respond by getting of all the Aircraft Carriers thereby eliminating the "fighter gap".

Aircraft Carriers are so provocative!
We should have an Carrier free world!
/// CBBHO

188 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:57:09am

re: #181 Shug

If Barack Obama was president instead of JFK, there would be soviet nukes in Cuba.

Or Miami?

189 avanti  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:57:37am

re: #70 LGoPs

Drives me nuts. The other thing that drives me nuts is polls showing Obama's popularity around 60%. Who are these people that obviously voted against him but are now thinking he's great?
Or is it that the polls will be talking to people who didn't vote in the first place?
Bottom line is I hate polls because I think their primary intent is to manipulate.

They do poll non voters, thus the difference. The numbers can be off 3-4 points, so watch the trend line, not the raw numbers.

job approval

190 Macker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:57:57am

re: #108 Killgore Trout

I'm a little freaked out that WSJ ran that piece. I've come to expect that stuff from Fox but WSJ is supposed to be real news.

There's only one way to find out: I smell a lawsuit.

191 Killian Bundy  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:58:23am

re: #187 jcm

Aircraft Carriers are so provocative!
We should have an Carrier free world!
/// CBBHO

/China's down with that

192 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:58:42am

re: #179 WhiteRasta

I tend to agree with a poster here who said the islamic takeover of Europe is G-d's punishment for the Holocaust.

you may be right, but that gives me no comfort at all. as savage as europe has been towards the Jews, i think the radical muslims are even worse. maybe if europe wakes up and casts its lot on the side of righteousness, they can be saved by G-d, but i am not holding my breath.

193 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:58:53am

re: #149 Nevergiveup

Declaring the future of mankind at stake, President Barack Obama said Sunday all nations must strive to rid the world of nuclear arms and that the U.S. had a “moral responsibility” to lead as the only country ever to use one

[Link: www.navytimes.com...]

This naive fuck is gonna get us all killed.

I agree ... and

"Obama said his goal of “a world without nuclear weapons” won’t be reached soon, “perhaps not in my lifetime.”"

He also prefaced his statement with "I'm not naive."

When someone makes such a statement it generally means they are. Oh mad? I'm not mad at you." - yeah, right!

More campaign rhetoric. He's slicker than the slickster.

194 esch  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:59:11am

re: #174 _RememberTonyC

yes, but I don't want to see a bunch of european Jews killed as the native euros try to appease their new overlords with the lives of these innocents.

I agree 100%.

But history is starting to play itself out again. I think at some point you have to recognize the writing on the wall and save yourself. There are plenty of different religious and ethnic minorities that'll be on the chopping block.

195 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:59:20am

re: #180 Killgore Trout

I think there's also the concern that CEO's of failing banks might return the TARP money to protect their bonuses even if it sinks the bank. I wouldn't put this past them.

It wouldn't be the CEO's call alone. there would be too many people at the bank involved to authorize such a call, just as there were many to authorize accepting the monies. Same with GM and Chrysler.

196 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:59:21am

re: #176 yma o hyd

You dissing Monty Python - or did you just forget them?

;-)

Umm I foregot...:)


Scottish Bus Driver

The Scottish bus driver was giving a tour of Scotland to a group of tourists.

The tour went through the countryside and the driver would point out sights of interest.

He drove by this one area and said, "Over there is where the Scottish PULVERIZED the English."

They drove on a little further and the driver pointed to another area along the roadway and said, "This is the place where the Scottish MASSACRED the English."

Not much further down the road the driver told his passengers that on the right was the great battlefield where the Scottish WHIPPED the English.

About that time a man on the bus, with a stiff English accent, said, "My good man, didn't the English win any battles around here"?

"Not when I'm driving the bus" was the response.

197 Desert Dog  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 11:59:41am

re: #149 Nevergiveup

Declaring the future of mankind at stake, President Barack Obama said Sunday all nations must strive to rid the world of nuclear arms and that the U.S. had a “moral responsibility” to lead as the only country ever to use one

[Link: www.navytimes.com...]

This naive fuck is gonna get us all killed.

I know why people like Obama have these urges to disarm. They think the world will be safer. What I cannot understand is how they can sit there and actually believe that disarmament could actually take place when many of the nukes of the world are in the hands of tyrants and dictators now. All it will do is make us more vulnerable to attack, just the opposite of what they claim will happen

I remember debating a guy in college when Reagan was putting the medium ranged nuclear missiles in Europe. He went on and on about how it will make the world more volatile and how Reagan was a war monger. He got all the whoops and cheers with the spiel. When I got up and said this will lead to a more peaceful world and that strength is preferable to weakness, I got booed. This was the height of the "NO-Nuke" nonsense that swept the nation for a few years. I wonder how all of those self-righteous fools are doing today? Probably still living in the same fantasy land as their beloved leader.

We should never give up our nuclear weapons and we should be telling everyone right now that any attack on the USA will result in the complete and total destruction of the country or people that attacked.

198 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:01:37pm

re: #196 Dustyvet

Umm I foregot...:)

Scottish Bus Driver

The Scottish bus driver was giving a tour of Scotland to a group of tourists.

The tour went through the countryside and the driver would point out sights of interest.

He drove by this one area and said, "Over there is where the Scottish PULVERIZED the English."

They drove on a little further and the driver pointed to another area along the roadway and said, "This is the place where the Scottish MASSACRED the English."

Not much further down the road the driver told his passengers that on the right was the great battlefield where the Scottish WHIPPED the English.

About that time a man on the bus, with a stiff English accent, said, "My good man, didn't the English win any battles around here"?

"Not when I'm driving the bus" was the response.

Oh yesssss!

Scotti will love that!

199 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:01:59pm

re: #181 Shug

If Barack Obama was president instead of JFK, there would be soviet nukes in Cuba Wyoming.

200 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:02:05pm

re: #181 Shug

If Barack Obama was president instead of JFK, there would be soviet nukes in Cuba Washington DC.

////too much !?!?!?!

201 Kronocide  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:02:15pm

re: #167 itellu3times

Well, what is the 'way they want to?' If they were just trying to crutch the banks through this tough time or help them get lending again, that much has been done or is in process.

Not letting banks return funds is an entirely different issue.

202 scottishbuzzsaw  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:02:22pm

re: #198 yma o hyd

Oh yesssss!

Scotti will love that!

Already updinged...;>)

203 opnion  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:02:23pm

re: #189 avanti

They do poll non voters, thus the difference. The numbers can be off 3-4 points, so watch the trend line, not the raw numbers.

job approval

You really need to know what the make up of the sampling is.
As an example, if the sampling is heavy with Democrats, it would obviously skewer the results.

204 jcm  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:02:43pm

re: #199 MandyManners

Wyoming

To bitter and clingy......

205 Shug  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:02:56pm

re: #197 Desert Dog

I was laughing at the yahoo news headlines this morning. Consecutive headlines were

North Korea launches missile ( West does nothing---ed)
President Obama ( who can't even stop the North Korean Napolean impersonator--ed) lays out plans to make the world Free of nuclear weapons

Naive!

206 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:03:15pm

re: #202 scottishbuzzsaw

Already updinged...;>)

Hey Scottish!

207 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:03:15pm

re: #194 esch

I agree 100%.

But history is starting to play itself out again. I think at some point you have to recognize the writing on the wall and save yourself. There are plenty of different religious and ethnic minorities that'll be on the chopping block.


If I were a european Jew in a country that allows it, I would be planning to emigrate to Israel or the USA for sure. europe OWES the Jews their safety after centuries of persecution. But europe is so fucking miserable that they would probably WELCOME a Holocaust II.

208 gregg  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:03:42pm

re: #172 yma o hyd

Europe did not and does not want a fighting-fit Germany.
Any sign of that and everybody starts howling - no wonder the Germans are scared of even thinking about shooting at anybody.
Who wouldn't be - with those nieghbours.

Well, it looks like the Germans are definitely not "fighting-fit":

The physical condition of the soldiers was already in question after a German armed forces report found that 40 per cent of its soldiers aged 18-29 were overweight, compared to 35 per cent of the civilian population of the same age.

The report, published in March, concluded that the Bundeswehr lived on beer and sausages while shunning fruit and vegetables. It said that an overdeveloped bureaucracy was also contributing to a “passive lifestyle” on the part of the soldiers.

Too much beer and sausage. The end result is that Germany probably has the wurst soldiers in Europe.

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

209 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:03:58pm

re: #175 pink freud

SFZ, did my email get through?

Yes, responding now. You went in spam for some reason.

:)

210 scottishbuzzsaw  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:04:07pm

re: #206 HoosierHoops

Hey Scottish!

Hey, HH! What's cooking?

211 Desert Dog  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:04:32pm

re: #172 yma o hyd

Well, to be fair - the rest of Europe was, after Hitler and WWII not in the mood to allow the Germans to show anything at all even faintly resembling military prowess.
Add to that the drip-drip-drip of moonbattery from the 1970 in education, all across Europe, and its no wonder.
Oh - and the reunification also had the condition that the East German army would have to be more or less scrapped.

Europe did not and does not want a fighting-fit Germany.
Any sign of that and everybody starts howling - no wonder the Germans are scared of even thinking about shooting at anybody.
Who wouldn't be - with those nieghbours.

The same thing happened in Japan. For a thousand years, Japan was in a literal constant state of war. Their entire culture was based on it. It is amazing to look at them now.

I think it is natural for many people to want peace. If the USA could stop spending so much money on defense, we would be richer for it. But, this world will not allow us to do that.

212 jcm  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:04:52pm

re: #208 gregg

Too much beer and sausage. The end result is that Germany probably has the wurst soldiers in Europe.

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

You shouldn't knock them without more information....
;-P

213 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:05:03pm

re: #179 WhiteRasta

I tend to agree with a poster here who said the islamic takeover of Europe is G-d's punishment for the Holocaust.

That's not a lot of use to the dead, now is it?

214 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:05:13pm

"That's what we're most concerned about preventing, and preventing North Korea from sharing that technology with others," Rice said on ABC's "This Week."

"The United States believes that this action is best dealt with -- the most appropriate response would be a United Nations Security Council resolution," she added.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Susan darling bubba baby: A few points

1) are you really that freak en stupid?
2) Sharing technology? Honey there is not use closing the barn door after all
the animals are out.
3) are you really that freak en stupid?

215 BryanS  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:05:24pm

re: #197 Desert Dog

The reason we know our liberal political enemies so well is that what you described--all the lefties hoopin' and hollerin' at anything not from the left point of view--happens on campuses all the time. It's the reason that libs cannot make reasoned arguments in support of their plans. Libs go through college in an echo chamber and never have to justify their point of view.

Sad thing is that when conservatives screw up as they have in the past 8 years by not controlling the growth of government, we're left with extremists who cannot contemplate what damage they are doing to our country.

216 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:05:40pm

re: #197 Desert Dog

The Romans had a pertinent saying about that:
Si vis pacem, para bellum - that is, 'If you want peace, prepare for war.'

No wonder they had a pretty huge empire ...

217 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:05:50pm

re: #189 avanti

They do poll non voters, thus the difference. The numbers can be off 3-4 points, so watch the trend line, not the raw numbers.

job approval

And again, I point out to you that the important thing is that the DISAPPROVE is on a steady rise (from 12 to 27, and once hit just above 30) while the APPROVE has been relativley flat (68 to 63, with a high of 69

Be concerned ,, be VERY concerned !

218 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:05:53pm

re: #206 HoosierHoops


Hoosier ... I was really surprised that the Spartans beat UConn ...

219 debutaunt  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:06:01pm

re: #203 opnion

You really need to know what the make up of the sampling is.
As an example, if the sampling is heavy with Democrats, it would obviously skewer the results.

They start with a conclusion and poll until it is reached.

220 jaunte  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:06:12pm

re: #211 Desert Dog

If the USA could stop spending so much money on defense, we would be richer for it. But, this world will not allow us to do that.

This is the message the Europeans sent Obama. I wonder if he received it.

221 Shug  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:06:20pm

Sanctions against a country whose leaders don't give a shit if their people are starving are

all together now.....

WORTHLESS

222 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:06:38pm

re: #210 scottishbuzzsaw

Hey, HH! What's cooking?

Hey you...Hope you are well..Just watching some racing and blogging

223 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:06:59pm

re: #213 SanFranciscoZionist

No, but perhaps a warning to the next bunch of lunatics that would like to revive it...

224 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:07:19pm
225 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:07:33pm

re: #221 Shug

Sanctions against a country whose leaders don't give a shit if their people are starving are

all together now.....

WORTHLESS

FEEL GOOD PROGRESSIVE POLICIES

226 Shug  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:08:04pm

re: #224 buzzsawmonkey

NPR said this morning that it was going to report on "the Turkish people's opinion of Barack Obama."

Why the hell should we care what the Turkish people's opinion of Barack Obama is?


Obama needs to be loved by all, that's why

227 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:08:40pm
228 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:08:42pm

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Maybe Zer0 got ahold of a copy of this?

I read it back in the 80s.

From the reviews at the link...

"The Jesus Factor" is a superbly written, utterly engrossing, and amazingly believable tale of how the atom bomb, our prized protectorate against enemies who would engage in the use of chemical or biological warfare, may not be as functional as we have always been taught. A must-read for conspiracy buffs -- THIS NOVEL IS ABSOLUTELY PLAUSIBLE. And I'm NOT a conspiracy buff. If you don't finish it in one sitting, you don't like books."

and:

"I have read and re-read this book four times since 1985 and I am still not sure if it is fiction as it claims or is non-fiction with the names changed to confuse. Governmental mis-information has been a given for many years. This book shows how it could be used. After all, the existance of an atomic bomb, whether true or not, certainly would keep potential enemies at bay. This is what happened during the cold war. Well written and really scary."

229 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:08:44pm

re: #224 buzzsawmonkey

NPR said this morning that it was going to report on "the Turkish people's opinion of Barack Obama."

Why the hell should we care what the Turkish people's opinion of Barack Obama is?

You must've missed the memo, buzzsaw. The opinion of the world re Teh One is marginally more important than the nasty Americans'.

230 kingkenrod  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:08:57pm

re: #217 sattv4u2

And again, I point out to you that the important thing is that the DISAPPROVE is on a steady rise (from 12 to 27, and once hit just above 30) while the APPROVE has been relativley flat (68 to 63, with a high of 69

Be concerned ,, be VERY concerned !

The graph of that, if it hasn't been pointed to:

[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

231 gregg  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:08:59pm

re: #218 _RememberTonyC

Hoosier ... I was really surprised that the Spartans beat UConn ...

As I watched the game, I thought it might be nice to have a t-shirt that said UConn and a picture of Chris Dodd.

232 opnion  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:09:06pm

re: #219 debutaunt

They start with a conclusion and poll until it is reached.

Most liberal studies seem to be done that way. You start your research with the desireable concusion & cherry pick data that supports the conclusion.

233 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:09:07pm

A battle weary American soldier boarded a crowded train in in London during the early days of post-WWII, only to discover he was unable to find a place to sit. As he walked the length of the train, he noticed a small white dog curled up on one of the seats. A large, well dressed woman sat in the seat next to the dog. The man hovered near the seat, hoping the woman would take the hint, but she pointedly ignored him.

"Excuse me, Ma'am," the soldier finally spoke, "Is this your dog? Would you mind holding it on your lap so that I may sit down?"

The woman raised her icy gaze to the young man and said in a haughty British accent, "oh! You Americans. You are so rude.
Fluffy is in that seat, and i see no reason why she should give up her comfort for you."

The exhausted soldier nodded, picked up the small dog ... leaned over ... opened the window of the moving train and tossed the dog out. The woman gaped and spluttered in horrified indignation, and the man sitting across from her lowered his newspaper.

"You Americans", he said, "You drive on the wrong side of the road ... you eat with the wrong fork ... and you just threw the wrong bitch out the window."

234 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:09:38pm

re: #214 Nevergiveup

"That's what we're most concerned about preventing, and preventing North Korea from sharing that technology with others," Rice said on ABC's "This Week."

"The United States believes that this action is best dealt with -- the most appropriate response would be a United Nations Security Council resolution," she added.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Susan darling bubba baby: A few points

1) are you really that freak en stupid?
2) Sharing technology? Honey there is not use closing the barn door after all
the animals are out.
3) are you really that freak en stupid?

Oh one other thing. Someone was questioning me last week why I thought Susan Rice was a worthless peice of shit? Need I say more?
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

235 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:09:46pm
236 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:10:07pm

re: #230 kingkenrod

Thanks. I was using GALLUPS because thats what Avanti keeps linking to "prove" Obama's popular numbers

237 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:10:49pm

re: #235 buzzsawmonkey

As far as I am aware, the job of the President is not to whore around the world begging for adulation.

Your hot today!

238 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:11:04pm

re: #218 _RememberTonyC

Hoosier ... I was really surprised that the Spartans beat UConn ...

I was stunned last night..
Mich State Played big time defense...Magic had to be an inspiration being there last night...
I was very impressed with Their play...

239 yesandno  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:11:25pm

re: #3 Killian Bundy

Mecca mosques 'wrongly aligned'
Some worshippers are said to be anxious about the validity of their prayers.
/OH NOES!

Goodness, I hate it when my prayers are mis-aligned.....

/ There is Moe's way and the wrong way, haven't they got it right yet?

240 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:11:45pm

re: #235 buzzsawmonkey

As far as I am aware, the job of the President is not to whore around the world begging DEMANING for adulation.


"I AM THE ONE WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR"

241 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:11:50pm

re: #224 buzzsawmonkey

NPR said this morning that it was going to report on "the Turkish people's opinion of Barack Obama."

Why the hell should we care what the Turkish people's opinion of Barack Obama is?

Me, to liberal I work with streaming NPR: How can you listen to that crap?

Liberal: It just makes me FEEL SO GOOD.

242 Killgore Trout  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:12:15pm

re: #195 sattv4u2

It wouldn't be the CEO's call alone. there would be too many people at the bank involved to authorize such a call, just as there were many to authorize accepting the monies. Same with GM and Chrysler.

I think there's a very unhealthy relationship between the CEO's and Board of Directors in the corporate world. The system was designed to protect the stockholders and ensure the companies would prosper. They seem to have banded together to milk the companies dry. Success of the company is no longer a priority in many cases. Capitalism needs an overhaul.

243 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:12:22pm

Boston Red Sox Asks Sen. Kennedy to Throw First Pitch at Season Opener
The Boston Red Sox have asked Sen. Ted Kennedy to throw out the first pitch when the team hosts the Tampa Bay Monday at Fenway Park, the Boston Herald reported.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

?

244 VegasRick  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:12:23pm

re: #224 buzzsawmonkey

NPR said this morning that it was going to report on "the Turkish people's opinion of Barack Obama."

Why the hell should we care what the Turkish people's opinion of Barack Obama is?

Obambi is "overreaching", the Turds prefer the "reach around" technique.

245 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:12:24pm
246 jcm  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:12:28pm

re: #239 yesandno

Goodness, I hate it when my prayers are mis-aligned.....

/ There is Moe's way and the wrong way, haven't they got it right yet?

When prayers have to go side ways direction is a problem.
When they go up, it's much simpler!

/

247 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:12:40pm

re: #208 gregg

Germany has the 'wurst soldiers' - awww! Hilarious!

Mind, unlike us, Germany has a conscript army - and unlike us, their military tradition has been pretty much discredited, for the well-known reasons, so they have no traditional regiments, I think.

And something like our annual 'Trooping the Colour' would be unthinkable there, whereas here, its the pride of even the lowliest squaddie to be fit enough and do well enough to be allowed to take part.
And the history of some of the regiments go back hundreds of years, they are embroidered on the regimental flag.

Imagine the pride one must feel to be part of a regiment which actually fought under Marlborough!

The Germans? Beer and sausages is all they have ...

248 gregg  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:12:55pm

Is Obama and the rest of his staff still in Europe? What will 60 Minutes do - have they canceled tonight's show?

249 avanti  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:13:15pm

re: #203 opnion

You really need to know what the make up of the sampling is.
As an example, if the sampling is heavy with Democrats, it would obviously skewer the results.

All the decent polls use weighing for various factors or they would be way off, not 2-3 points. If they poll 60-40 Dem/GOP, they weigh the results to correct.

250 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:13:28pm

re: #231 gregg

As I watched the game, I thought it might be nice to have a t-shirt that said UConn and a picture of Chris Dodd.


Speaking of chris dodd ... an editorial in the New Haven Register newspaper actually called him a "lying weasel." Amazing!

251 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:13:37pm

re: #241 pink freud

Me, to liberal I work with streaming NPR: How can you listen to that crap?

Liberal: It just makes me FEEL SO GOOD.

If you haven't seen this video before, check it out now! It's about 48 minutes long, so you will need to set aside some time to watch it, but it will be time well spent.

HERITAGE FOUNDATION: "How Modern Liberals Think"

252 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:14:14pm

re: #249 avanti

All the decent polls use weighing for various factors or they would be way off, not 2-3 points. If they poll 60-40 Dem/GOP, they weigh the results to correct.

How much money did you win/lose in Vegas?

253 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:14:15pm

re: #235 buzzsawmonkey

As far as I am aware, the job of the President is not to whore around the world begging for adulation.

It does seem, though, that that is exactly what he thinks his job is.

254 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:14:20pm

Quick technical question: I've saved on CD's in the past. I'm out of them so I want to back up stuff on a zip drive. Where do I stick it?

255 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:14:20pm

BAGHDAD — An Iraqi government spokesman says Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has arrived in Baghdad for talks, in what's thought to be the first visit by a Palestinian leader since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Well the Palestinians were such good friends of Saddam, why not?

256 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:14:53pm

re: #254 MandyManners

Quick technical question: I've saved on CD's in the past. I'm out of them so I want to back up stuff on a zip drive. Where do I stick it?

AND, NO SMART-ASS ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION. PLEASE?

257 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:14:58pm

re: #242 Killgore Trout

I think there's a very unhealthy relationship between the CEO's and Board of Directors in the corporate world. The system was designed to protect the stockholders and ensure the companies would prosper. They seem to have banded together to milk the companies dry. Success of the company is no longer a priority in many cases. Capitalism needs an overhaul.

Well,, I've been in the corporate world for the most part of 2 decades. The fortune 500 company I work for does business with many other fortune 500 co's. I speak to people in those companies daily. They see and say the same as I see at mine. That the CEO's/ Presidents/ COO's do NOT have an incentious relationship with the boards. There is a healthy and often bloody relationship

258 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:15:18pm

re: #238 HoosierHoops

I was stunned last night..
Mich State Played big time defense...Magic had to be an inspiration being there last night...
I was very impressed with Their play...


Magic is a very inspirational guy on so many levels. I hope MSU beats UNC tomorrow .... Michigan could use a "feel good" lift!

259 yesandno  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:15:22pm

re: #241 pink freud

Me, to liberal I work with streaming NPR: How can you listen to that crap?

Liberal: It just makes me FEEL SO GOOD.

Remember the 1960/70s when the anti war people walked around with T-shirts that read...ABM feels good.

Kind of like FEEL SO GOOD

260 pingjockey  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:15:29pm

re: #256 MandyManners
Heh!

261 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:15:43pm

re: #248 gregg

Is Obama and the rest of his staff still in Europe? What will 60 Minutes do - have they canceled tonight's show?

Silly boy. Thye have PRE TAPED chows for an entire season just in case !

262 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:15:44pm

re: #254 MandyManners

Quick technical question: I've saved on CD's in the past. I'm out of them so I want to back up stuff on a zip drive. Where do I stick it?

You do have a way with words.

263 scottishbuzzsaw  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:15:49pm

re: #222 HoosierHoops

Hey you...Hope you are well..

Just missing my man...usually Sunday afternoon finds us stretched out on the couch-of-infinite-comfort together...*sigh*

264 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:15:52pm

re: #254 MandyManners

Quick technical question: I've saved on CD's in the past. I'm out of them so I want to back up stuff on a zip drive. Where do I stick it?

Are you on a Mac or a Windows machine?

Usually, on a Windows machine, your zip drive will probably be your D: drive.

On a Mac, you just drag it to the Zip drive icon.

265 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:15:53pm

re: #256 MandyManners

AND, NO SMART-ASS ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION. PLEASE?

I just duct tapped my key board...:)

266 Desert Dog  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:16:04pm

re: #242 Killgore Trout

I think there's a very unhealthy relationship between the CEO's and Board of Directors in the corporate world. The system was designed to protect the stockholders and ensure the companies would prosper. They seem to have banded together to milk the companies dry. Success of the company is no longer a priority in many cases. Capitalism needs an overhaul.

I agree with your point, but who is going to fix it is the question? Obama? Congress? They should fix it themselves before the government comes in and "fixes" for them. Then, they would only have themselves to blame.

267 opnion  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:16:05pm

re: #249 avanti

All the decent polls use weighing for various factors or they would be way off, not 2-3 points. If they poll 60-40 Dem/GOP, they weigh the results to correct.

That is a credible model, but I actualoly heard Rasmussen say that it is not always followed & therefore some polls are skewered.

268 DEZes  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:16:13pm

re: #254 MandyManners

Quick technical question: I've saved on CD's in the past. I'm out of them so I want to back up stuff on a zip drive. Where do I stick it?

In a USB port.
God I had to bite my tongue. ;)

269 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:16:14pm

re: #251 gmsc

Thanks, gmsc. I've seen it, and for those who haven't ...very informative.

270 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:16:15pm

re: #254 MandyManners

Quick technical question: I've saved on CD's in the past. I'm out of them so I want to back up stuff on a zip drive. Where do I stick it?

Your best bet Mandy is to buy a jump drive and keep your stuff there...
It's cheap to have 16GB on your keychain..

271 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:16:48pm

re: #270 HoosierHoops

Your best bet Mandy is to buy a jump drive and keep your stuff there...
It's cheap to have 16GB on your keychain..


but painful! //

272 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:16:55pm

re: #211 Desert Dog

The same thing happened in Japan. For a thousand years, Japan was in a literal constant state of war. Their entire culture was based on it. It is amazing to look at them now.

I think it is natural for many people to want peace. If the USA could stop spending so much money on defense, we would be richer for it. But, this world will not allow us to do that.

No - it won't, and I myself think its time to let both Japan and Germany start building up a proper professional army, navy and air force, without seeing an attempt a world domination behind that.
I know this will be very difficult to accept for many, but they are our allies now - they are a different generation, and the world has not changed for the better, rogue states have proliferated.
If the burdens could be shared, we'd all be richer.

273 pingjockey  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:16:59pm

re: #268 DEZes

You and about a gazillion other lizards!

274 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:17:00pm
275 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:17:11pm

re: #243 Nevergiveup

Boston Red Sox Asks Sen. Kennedy to Throw First Pitch at Season Opener
The Boston Red Sox have asked Sen. Ted Kennedy to throw out the first pitch when the team hosts the Tampa Bay Monday at Fenway Park, the Boston Herald reported.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

?

i hope has a better throwing arm than kerry did ...

276 VegasRick  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:17:45pm

re: #275 _RememberTonyC

i hope has a better throwing arm than kerry did ...

Woods was not that bad!
/

277 Macker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:18:00pm

re: #243 Nevergiveup

I see that Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment.

278 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:18:38pm

re: #275 _RememberTonyC

Lord Chap of Quiddick?

279 jcm  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:18:43pm

re: #254 MandyManners

Quick technical question: I've saved on CD's in the past. I'm out of them so I want to back up stuff on a zip drive. Where do I stick it?

*Biting my tongue*

A zip will show up as D: or E: drives. Depending on how many drives you have.

280 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:19:10pm

re: #275 _RememberTonyC

i hope has a better throwing arm than kerry did ...

If they put a bottle of Glenfiddech at the plate he'll knock the cap off and not spill a drop!

281 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:19:15pm

re: #256 MandyManners

AND, NO SMART-ASS ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION. PLEASE?

Why not get a flash drive instead? Insert into your USB port and use as you would a CD. You can get an 8 gig for about 15 bucks online.

282 Bob Dillon  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:19:31pm

re: #235 buzzsawmonkey

As far as I am aware, the job of the President is not to whore around the world begging for adulation.

Ah - you are entitled to your opinion ... and you obviously don't understand The One™ and his actions ... it's an elitist thing.

/

283 Bloodnok  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:19:52pm

re: #256 MandyManners

AND, NO SMART-ASS ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION. PLEASE?

You have nothing to fear from me. All of MY comments are dumb-ass, not smart-ass.

284 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:19:57pm

At an auction in Manchester a wealthy American announced that he had lost his wallet containing £10,000 and would give a reward of £100 to the person who found it.
From the back of the hall a Scottish voice shouted, "I'll give £150!"

285 Macker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:20:03pm

re: #254 MandyManners

Quick technical question: I've saved on CD's in the past. I'm out of them so I want to back up stuff on a zip drive. Where do I stick it?

Is there a reason why you still use a zip drive in this day and age?

/no_slam_intended_just_askin

286 BryanS  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:20:09pm

re: #256 MandyManners

AND, NO SMART-ASS ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION. PLEASE?

heh. you have to specifically have a zip drive to use zip disks. If you have the zip drive, is it external? If not, you'd probably need to hire someone to install it. I it is, you just have to plug in with the appropriate cable--usually USB. But why would you ever want to use zip disks?

287 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:20:13pm

re: #271 sattv4u2

but painful! //

Don't make me come over there Satt! LOL

288 pingjockey  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:20:21pm

I was out rebuilding my budding engineers sandbox. Did our contrarian from the previous thread get whacked while I was moving sand?

289 Randall Gross  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:20:26pm

It depends on your computer and the type of zip drive you have. Some are installable, some have USB connector cables, some have pins and require special slots. Here's a PDF link in case you have the installable kind, note that yours might vary a bit

[Link: support.necam.com...]

if you have a zip drive slot built in, it miight be behind a drop down panel in front of your PC.

If you have the USB sort, that's easy.

290 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:20:37pm

re: #256 MandyManners

If it's the old fashioned zip, and looks like a thick floppy, modern computers don't have a place to put them. On my computer I can put the little usb thingies in at the bottom of the 'puter.

291 Macker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:20:50pm

re: #278 WhiteRasta

Lord Chap of Quiddick?

Oh My! I SO have to steal that!

292 wahabicorridor  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:20:54pm

re: #272 yma o hyd

I know this will be very difficult to accept for many, but they are our allies now - they are a different generation, and the world has not changed for the better, rogue states have proliferated.

I talk to Germans almost every day - the younger generation - and almost without exception they would be opposed. One actually told me "violence for Germans is like drugs or alcohol for an addict - we don't dare touch it".

Sad.

293 avanti  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:21:28pm

re: #217 sattv4u2

And again, I point out to you that the important thing is that the DISAPPROVE is on a steady rise (from 12 to 27, and once hit just above 30) while the APPROVE has been relativley flat (68 to 63, with a high of 69

Be concerned ,, be VERY concerned !

As I pointed out, his support on the left will stay fairly high because he is carrying out his liberal polices, but that will not sell to the right. 538.com says every POTUS never stay in the 60's very long, there is just no history for that.

294 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:22:06pm

Mandy:

Flash drives

295 DEZes  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:22:13pm

re: #279 jcm

*Biting my tongue*

A zip will show up as D: or E: drives. Depending on how many drives you have.

Why I confused a zip drive with a jump drive is beyond me, I need coffee.

296 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:22:24pm

re: #293 avanti

As I pointed out, his support on the left will stay fairly high because he is carrying out his liberal polices, but that will not sell to the right. 538.com says every POTUS never stay in the 60's very long, there is just no history for that.

It won't "sell" to the middle either. Thats why his "approval" has remained flat.

297 Desert Dog  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:22:25pm

re: #272 yma o hyd

No - it won't, and I myself think its time to let both Japan and Germany start building up a proper professional army, navy and air force, without seeing an attempt a world domination behind that.
I know this will be very difficult to accept for many, but they are our allies now - they are a different generation, and the world has not changed for the better, rogue states have proliferated.
If the burdens could be shared, we'd all be richer.

Japan may feel the need on their own. They have to see China rising. They already know the Norks want to pay them back for WWII. They will have to go nuclear at the very least and that will have to be a hard decision, considering their past.

Germany is another matter. Besides the Russians being odd now and then, they are not in the same rough neighborhood as Japan.

Both of them are still hoping and praying the USA sticks around longer. So they can avoid the reality of defending themselves.

298 Timbre  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:22:53pm

Wonderful (sarc) subtle editorializing in the current CNN poll:

Quick Vote
Does one nation have the right to tell another nation whether it can launch a rocket?
Yes 41% 4139
No 59% 5959
Total Votes: 10098
read related article »
This is not a scientific poll

Does one nation have a right to tell another nation not to pas a law allowing husbands to rape their wives?
Does one nation have a right to tell another nation not to imprison and execute citizens for holding political beliefs contrary to the current regime?
Does one nation have a right to tell another nation not to support a terrorist group that continually plants bombs killing children, innocent civilians, and police officers and applicants?

CNN: You and your moral relativism can go to H--- and stay there.

299 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:23:06pm

re: #292 wahabicorridor

I talk to Germans almost every day - the younger generation - and almost without exception they would be opposed. One actually told me "violence for Germans is like drugs or alcohol for an addict - we don't dare touch it".

Sad.

Crikey!
That looks like successful brainwashing on a massive scale.
I had no idea it was that bad.
Words fail me ...

300 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:23:37pm

I don't know what it's called. It's a little do-hickey that comes with a cap--about 1.5 inches. JumpDrive!

Do I put it into any USB port?

Do I then go to my files and save them one by one?

301 jcm  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:23:56pm

re: #295 DEZes

Why I confused a zip drive with a jump drive is beyond me, I need coffee.

So instead of sticking it, you get jumped?
//

302 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:24:16pm

re: #292 wahabicorridor

I talk to Germans almost every day - the younger generation - and almost without exception they would be opposed. One actually told me "violence for Germans is like drugs or alcohol for an addict - we don't dare touch it".

Sad.


eventually they will either fight, or face towards mecca. maybe the german women will stand up for the "fatherland."

303 opnion  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:24:19pm

Question, when Obama asked for COMBAT troops from European NATO countries & was rebuffed, why didn't he point out "An attack on one is an attack on all?"

304 pingjockey  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:24:36pm

re: #298 Timbre
One nation or person can tell another nation or person damn near anything they want to. Whether the nation or person listens is another thing.

305 DEZes  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:24:49pm

re: #300 MandyManners

I don't know what it's called. It's a little do-hickey that comes with a cap--about 1.5 inches. JumpDrive!

Do I put it into any USB port?

Do I then go to my files and save them one by one?

That is a jump drive, it does go into a USB port, and will only go one way.

306 WhiteRasta  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:24:50pm

re: #291 Macker

It's not mine, but I loved it. Another Lizard made that one up...

307 gmsc  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:24:54pm

re: #294 pink freud

Mandy:

Flash drives

Are you using "Flash" here as an adjective or a verb?
;)

308 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:24:56pm

I've a port thingy next to the wireless thingy on the front of the CPU.

309 jcm  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:25:16pm

re: #300 MandyManners

I don't know what it's called. It's a little do-hickey that comes with a cap--about 1.5 inches. JumpDrive!

Do I put it into any USB port?

Do I then go to my files and save them one by one?

Jump drive. Plug it any available USB port. It will show up, likely as E: (D: being the CD/DVD).

Drag and drop all the files you want to move.

310 esch  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:25:18pm

re: #292 wahabicorridor

Pfft.

Just wait till they fall off the wagon.re: #300 MandyManners

I don't know what it's called. It's a little do-hickey that comes with a cap--about 1.5 inches. JumpDrive!

Do I put it into any USB port?

Do I then go to my files and save them one by one?

Yes.

You can work with it like your main drive. Drag and drop, anything you want.

311 Randall Gross  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:25:20pm

re: #300 MandyManners

I don't know what it's called. It's a little do-hickey that comes with a cap--about 1.5 inches. JumpDrive!

Do I put it into any USB port?

Do I then go to my files and save them one by one?

That's a jump drive, and yes you put it in a USB slot, Remember USB connectors are keyed, they only go in with one side up or down, don't force it if it doesn't go in, just flip it over and try with the other side down.

312 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:25:26pm
313 Dustyvet  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:25:28pm

re: #263 scottishbuzzsaw

A guy walks into a bar with an octopus. He sits the octopus down on a stool and tells everyone in the bar that this is a very talented octopus.

"He can play any musical instrument in the world."

Everyone in the bar laughs at the man, calling him an idiot. So he says that he will wager $50.00 to anyone who has an instrument that the octopus can't play.

A guy walks up with a guitar and sets it beside the octopus.

Immediately the octopus picks up the guitar and starts playing better than Jimi Hendrix. The guitar man pays up his $50.00.

Another guy walks up with a trumpet. This time the octopus plays the trumpet better than Louis Armstrong. The guy pays up his $50.00.

Then a Scotsman walks up with some bagpipes. He puts them down and the octopus fumbles with them for a minute and then sits down with a confused look.

"Ha Ha!" the Scot says. "Ye canny plae it, can ye?"

The octopus looks up at him and says..."Play it? I'm going to f##k it as soon as I figure out how to get its pajamas off".

314 esch  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:26:16pm

re: #310 esch

*forehead smack*

Sorry, kids talking to me.

315 yma o hyd  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:26:49pm

re: #297 Desert Dog

Japan may feel the need on their own. They have to see China rising. They already know the Norks want to pay them back for WWII. They will have to go nuclear at the very least and that will have to be a hard decision, considering their past.

Germany is another matter. Besides the Russians being odd now and then, they are not in the same rough neighborhood as Japan.

Both of them are still hoping and praying the USA sticks around longer. So they can avoid the reality of defending themselves.

I think Japan will note very carefully the way Obowma is responding to that missile launch - and I would not be surprised if the started to reconsider their military options.

Germany - having just read what wahabicorridor said, I'm disgusted. They'll just curl up and let themselves be killed, showing that they are 'good' Germans and not little Hitlers.
Un-effen-believable.

316 Timbre  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:26:56pm

re: #304 pingjockey

One nation or person can tell another nation or person damn near anything they want to. Whether the nation or person listens is another thing.

I know. I'm angry that CNN implies that the North Korean situation is nothing more than a plastic and paper hobby rocket being fired in some vacant lot in Middletown.

317 jjmckay1216  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:27:24pm

re: #5 sattv4u2

AHHH,,, the calm tranquility and civility of an OPEN THREAD

1st one to mess it up gets bitch slapped


can we make it a boob thread, then? ;)

318 wahabicorridor  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:27:28pm

re: #299 yma o hyd

That looks like successful brainwashing on a massive scale.

Oh, it's very thorough. I had a German law student tell me he had no interest in understanding the EU Constitution - it simply isn't necessary.

I bang my head a lot with these people - and they're hardly stupid.

gotta go.

319 BenghaziHoops  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:27:30pm

re: #300 MandyManners

I don't know what it's called. It's a little do-hickey that comes with a cap--about 1.5 inches. JumpDrive!

Do I put it into any USB port?

Do I then go to my files and save them one by one?

Yes..just dump everything you want save there..You need not do file by File..Just highlight all the files you want to save and copy them to the jump drive...For 29 bucks you have 16 BG of storage.It just doesn't get any better..
For a hundred bucks you can buy a USB Hard drive and copy everything on it..

320 Nevergiveup  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:28:13pm

re: #303 opnion

Question, when Obama asked for COMBAT troops from European NATO countries & was rebuffed, why didn't he point out "An attack on one is an attack on all?"

Because Obama really doesn't mean it about making a fight about it in Afghanistan. You know that and I know that.

321 pingjockey  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:28:25pm

re: #316 Timbre
Well, we can't have CNN alarming the unicorn huggers.

322 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:28:55pm

re: #312 buzzsawmonkey

Somebody needs to take that famous "HOPE" sticker with the Obama portrait and replace the "H" with an "N."

It would be nice to see some "NOPE" stickers on cars.


... or perhaps a "D."

323 scottishbuzzsaw  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:29:11pm

re: #313 Dustyvet

ROTFLMAO!

324 MandyManners  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:29:27pm

Thanks!

325 avanti  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:30:35pm

re: #252 HoosierHoops

How much money did you win/lose in Vegas?

I was in Atlantic City. I didn't finish in the money in the Poker tournament, but did well at Oriental poker, and then hit two hand pay slot jack pots. I was successful in giving some of the winnings back playing Pai Gow while keeping my friend company, but still came home up.

326 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:30:52pm
327 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:32:45pm

re: #235 buzzsawmonkey

As far as I am aware, the job of the President is not to whore around the world begging for adulation.

It's a hobby.

328 avanti  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:32:50pm

re: #296 sattv4u2

It won't "sell" to the middle either. Thats why his "approval" has remained flat.

Yep, it should drop into the 50's after a few more months, especially if he keeps pushing hard. The more he gets done, the less likely everyone will approve.

329 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:32:55pm

re: #326 buzzsawmonkey

That occurred to me too--especially if the Obama portrait were a little Alfred E. Neuman-ized.

Then I considered that "Dope" is a compliment, or used to be, in hip-hop circles, and thought that the message might get a little diluted.

word ... i'm down witcha homes :)

330 pink freud  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:34:19pm

re: #307 gmsc

Are you using "Flash" here as an adjective or a verb?
;)

Hmm ...since it's an *open* thread, I suppose a verb? ;-)

331 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:34:23pm

What's with the Muslim dating service ad?
(Not that there's anything necessarily wrong with it)

332 [deleted]  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:35:04pm
333 sattv4u2  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:37:50pm

re: #328 avanti

Yep, it should drop into the 50's after a few more months, especially if he keeps pushing hard LEFT. The more he gets done PUSHES LEFT, the less likely everyANYone BUT THE FAR LEFT will approve.

FTFY,, and accurately!

334 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:38:44pm

re: #292 wahabicorridor

I talk to Germans almost every day - the younger generation - and almost without exception they would be opposed. One actually told me "violence for Germans is like drugs or alcohol for an addict - we don't dare touch it".

Sad.

Germans, at least the ones I've met, do have a culture that to some extent is based on scrupulously avoiding militarism and nationalism. I understand where it comes from.

Another American and I once scared hell out of some German friends by demonstrating the Pledge of Allegiance (someone had seen it in an American movie, and wanted to know more). They were really disturbed, but didn't want to be rude. Distinctly awkward.

The Canadian in the room broke up the nervous silence by launching into an off-key rendition of "O Canada".

335 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:44:13pm

re: #334 SanFranciscoZionist

Germans, at least the ones I've met, do have a culture that to some extent is based on scrupulously avoiding militarism and nationalism. I understand where it comes from.

Another American and I once scared hell out of some German friends by demonstrating the Pledge of Allegiance (someone had seen it in an American movie, and wanted to know more). They were really disturbed, but didn't want to be rude. Distinctly awkward.

The Canadian in the room broke up the nervous silence by launching into an off-key rendition of "O Canada".

So here's a question for yourself and others who have had euro-experiences. What if anything is that group of countries going to stand up for? And does Obama have a chance in hell of getting them to work in a positive role? Will their demographics doom them?

336 lurking faith  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:48:43pm

Drive-by basketball comment:

Why are so many people so astonished that Michigan State beat Connecticut yesterday? MSU was a strong 2-seed, and had already beaten Louisville, the highest ranked 1-seed.

So why are people talking like this was a major upset?
But that's okay; the MSU crowd is used to being underestimated and generally finds it pretty funny.

Shoot, I was laughing at the announcers during the MSU-Louisville game, too, because they were talking at halftime about how Louisville is a 2nd-half team and was going to come back and pull away. And totally ignoring the fact that MSU has been a 2nd-half team ever since Tom Izzo took over as head coach.
/and these guys get paid for this blather?

337 lurking faith  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 12:53:43pm

re: #312 buzzsawmonkey

Somebody needs to take that famous "HOPE" sticker with the Obama portrait and replace the "H" with an "N."

It would be nice to see some "NOPE" stickers on cars.

I saw a couple during the pre-election campaign.

Made me smile.

338 razorbacker  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:02:01pm

'afternoon, y'all.

I've been down chatting with my neighbor for the first time in a couple of months. I went to offer my help in repairing the fences between our land so his cattle won't wander about the countryside. Anyway.

He was showing me a couple of photos that he got from his game camera set up about 100 yards from his front door. Now what the picture was representing, I don't know. I do know that it was not a panther, mountain lion, catamount, puma, or anything like that. I know this because my Game and Fish Commission steadfastly maintains that there are no roaming big cats in Arkansas. I, of course, implicitly believe what government authorities tell me, what with their spotless track record and all.

But whatever these pictures represent is a feline appearing creature standing somewhere under three feet at the shoulder, with a tail about as long as the body, solid colored, that leaves saucer-sized footprints that look like my housecat footprints, only larger.

It may be the fabled moderate mussulman. I understand those are hard to get on film, too.

339 jcm  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 1:14:26pm

re: #338 razorbacker

'afternoon, y'all.

I've been down chatting with my neighbor for the first time in a couple of months. I went to offer my help in repairing the fences between our land so his cattle won't wander about the countryside. Anyway.

He was showing me a couple of photos that he got from his game camera set up about 100 yards from his front door. Now what the picture was representing, I don't know. I do know that it was not a panther, mountain lion, catamount, puma, or anything like that. I know this because my Game and Fish Commission steadfastly maintains that there are no roaming big cats in Arkansas. I, of course, implicitly believe what government authorities tell me, what with their spotless track record and all.

But whatever these pictures represent is a feline appearing creature standing somewhere under three feet at the shoulder, with a tail about as long as the body, solid colored, that leaves saucer-sized footprints that look like my housecat footprints, only larger.

It may be the fabled moderate mussulman. I understand those are hard to get on film, too.

Cougar Network has confirmed sightings. Your neighbor should send the photos to them.

340 hazzyday  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:01:26pm

re: #64 gmsc

GMTA!

You don't really want the federal government in your back pocket for anything. Education, healthcare, banks, only international commerce, space race, defense.

341 Spar Kling  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:01:41pm

re: #335 _RememberTonyC

So here's a question for yourself and others who have had euro-experiences. What if anything is that group of countries going to stand up for? And does Obama have a chance in hell of getting them to work in a positive role? Will their demographics doom them?

The short answer is no. As an example, before WWII, France and Eastern European countries had several multi-party alliances intended to stave off aggression. This failed spectacularly.

Obama has no idea of what works or doesn't work. He is a biological extension of his teleprompter.

Their demographics won't doom them, their politicians, unencumbered of any principles and firmly committed to any expedient, will do the job nicely.

-sk

342 debutaunt  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:03:21pm

re: #232 opnion

Most liberal studies seem to be done that way. You start your research with the desireable concusion & cherry pick data that supports the conclusion.

The truthers have taken that concept to bizarre extremes.

343 jester6  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 2:25:30pm

re: #62 BigPapa

Is there any validation to this story about TARP repayments not being accepted? If so, this is VSS. (Very Serious Shit)

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

This is a story from Politico which corroborates the administration's refusal to take tarp money.

The president described the financial system as still “fragile” and asked for cooperation from the CEOs. But he also told them he wouldn’t shy away from regulatory reform. Obama wrapped up his remarks and threw the conversation open to the table, saying, “So, who’d like to talk?”

JPMorgan’s CEO Dimon spoke first. He began by complimenting the president on the economic team he’d assembled. And he said his industry needs to explain more directly to the American people that the economic recovery plans are already working. Dimon also insisted that he’d like to give the government’s TARP money back as soon as practical, and asked the president to “streamline” that process.

But Obama didn’t like that idea — arguing that the system still needs government capital.

The president offered an analogy: “This is like a patient who’s on antibiotics,” he said. “Maybe the patient starts feeling better after a couple of days, but you don’t stop taking the medicine until you’ve finished the bottle.” Returning the money too early, the president argued could send a bad signal.

Several CEOs disagreed, arguing instead that returning TARP money was their patriotic duty, that they didn’t need it anymore, and that publicity surrounding the return would send a positive signal of confidence to the markets.

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Very Serious Shit indeed. Between the shootings and the fact this is inside baseball stuff I don't expect it to get too much coverage.

344 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Apr 5, 2009 4:22:23pm

Memri reports: Obama, Khatami May Meet in Istanbul

The Turkish daily Hurriyet reports that former Iranian president Mohammad Khatami and U.S. President Barack Obama may meet at the second Alliance for Civilizations summit, slated for April 6-7, 2009 in Istanbul, which will deal, inter alia, with the initiative of Saudi King 'Abdallah bin 'Abd Al-'Aziz for dialogue between the West and the Islamic World.

Sources: Teheran Times, Iran, Al-Sharq Al-Awsat, London, April 5, 2009; Tabnaq, Aftab, Iran, April 4, 2009{eom}


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