Texas Senate Anti-Choice Debate: Tampons Confiscated, Guns Not a Problem

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At the Texas capitol today, where the state Senate is debating that regressive caveman anti-choice bill passed by the House a couple of days ago, state troopers are searching women and confiscating any tampons or pads they discover. Texas Republicans are scared that women will throw tampons at them. Yes, they are.

Concealed firearms? No problem!

Here’s a live feed of the sausage-fest.

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UPDATE at 7/12/13 1:41:06 pm

After being ridiculed by the entire world, the Texas GOP has a change of heart.

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534 comments
1 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:38:34pm

Tampons deserve their own string thread.

2 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:38:40pm

It looks like state Senator Kirk Watson (my Senator!) has intervened:

3 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:39:06pm

Fuck you Texas GOP.

Seriously, you can fuck right off.

4 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:39:42pm

But honestly, the fact that this happened at all is a farce.

Guns in the Senate gallery? A-OK. Tampons and pads? ZOMG EVIL! The Onion is now pissed they didn’t think of this shit first.

5 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:40:17pm
6 Single-handed sailor  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:40:28pm

That’s gonna make a right bloody mess.

7 Ian G.  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:40:39pm

It’s times like this that I’m embarrassed to share a country with knuckleheads like these.

Who am I kidding? I’m embarrassed to share a planet with them.

8 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:40:48pm

Of course, they didn’t confiscate any used ones. That might put them in possession of a tiny wee Person.

9 Ian G.  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:41:22pm

re: #4 Lidane

The Onion is now pissed they didn’t think of this shit first.

The GOP has really been making life hard for The Onion for a while now.

10 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:41:59pm

My dream is to be white and surrounded by pussy…

11 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:42:13pm

I still can’t wrap my brain around the ridiculousness of this.

12 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:43:17pm

The Texas GOP on the whole tampon issue:


MP3 Audio

13 geoffm33  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:44:11pm

Verified, fact

14 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:44:41pm

They were scared that women would throw tampons at them. I can’t even.

15 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:45:09pm

re: #11 Varek Raith

I still can’t wrap my brain around the ridiculousness of this.

Apparently there were rumors of threats by some protesters to throw used pads and tampons during the vote/debate. You know, because women can’t control themselves or something. Ergo, they decided to ban tampons and pads at the capitol.

Morons. I weep for my state.

16 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:45:21pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

They were scared that women would throw tampons at them. I can’t even.

Oh, I thought maybe Texas offered asylum to Snowden.

17 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:46:25pm

If that’s our local 2, it’s a Fox station.

18 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:46:34pm
19 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:47:06pm

re: #17 darthstar

If that’s our local 2, it’s a Fox station.

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yep. It is our local Fox affiliate.

20 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:47:27pm

re: #17 darthstar

If that’s our local 2, it’s a Fox station.

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Oh for the….

21 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:47:31pm

WTF? Steve never learned history.
What happened in Texas in 1963 Steve?

22 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:47:49pm

re: #18 wrenchwench

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That’s why I call them ‘bullets’ on the occasion my wife needs me to pick some up for her.

23 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:48:55pm

re: #19 darthstar

yep. It is our local Fox affiliate.

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Bart Simpson would have a field day with them….

24 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:50:01pm

re: #19 darthstar

yep. It is our local Fox affiliate.

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In high school, the yearbook crew named an Asian kid “Thai Stick.” Perhaps the local station uses high school kids to save money.

25 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:51:28pm

DERP

26 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:52:11pm

re: #25 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Why don’t I believe him?
So weird!

27 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:52:58pm

Deace: The Survival Of Western Civilization Hinges On The Duggars

Guest-hosting for Fischer today was Iowa-based Religious Right radio host Steve Deace who issued his own call for Americans to get busy otherwise by the year 2030, the globe is going to be overrun by some 20 million radical Islamic jihadists who would put Adolf Hitler’s Nazi army to shame.

“Who’s going to stand along-side your children and grandchildren,” Deace asked, “when those jihadists target them?”

“We’ve got to make sure our kids get married at a younger age and start living out the birds and the bees right away and often. Indeed. The reality is this whole thing called Western Civilization might hinge on the Duggars”

Really?

Fuck it, I’m joining the Huns then.

28 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:53:38pm
29 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:53:54pm
30 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:54:05pm

re: #19 darthstar

Don’t let the geniuses at Accuracy In Media find out about this. They’ll be firing up the award machine in no time.

31 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:54:15pm
32 Cardio (formerly JRCMYP)  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:54:22pm

The people of Texas need to do something about these yahoos. I’m talking about the legislators, in case that’s not clear.

33 piratedan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:55:33pm

re: #19 darthstar

fair AND balanced // you decide! ///

34 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:55:47pm

Keep the pressure on!!!

35 piratedan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:56:38pm

re: #21 Vicious Babushka

scary thing is, he probably believes the shit he’s saying…. fucker couldn’t pass a 10th grade civics test.

36 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:58:32pm

Gus! We need a photoshop of Charlton Heston holding up a tampon and shouting, “From my cold, dead hands.”

37 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:58:40pm

re: #27 Kragar

“We’ve got to make sure our kids get married at a younger age and start living out the birds and the bees right away and often. Indeed. The reality is this whole thing called Western Civilization might hinge on the Duggars”

RWNJ are such control freaks when they aren’t busy lecturing us about too much government healthcare.

38 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 1:59:23pm

This weird rumor that demonstrators planned to throw tampons and pads at Republicans originated at the horrific LifeNews.com: lifenews.com

If you read this drivel, you’ll find absolutely no evidence of a single demonstrator actually advocating throwing tampons at poor persecuted right wingers. But there are plenty of tweets from right wingers acting outraged about it.

39 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:00:07pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

It’s the same as the “Hail Satan” fauxtroversy.

40 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:00:23pm

Damn…meeting time. BBL.

41 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:00:56pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

File under “shocked”, “surprised”

42 Ian G.  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:02:30pm

re: #17 darthstar

I’m going to hell for laughing at this, aren’t I?

43 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:03:07pm

re: #37 Bulworth

RWNJ are such control freaks when they aren’t busy lecturing us about too much government healthcare.

“You going out with that Miller girl across the street?”
“Yes Dad.”
“You make sure you get her pregnant tonight. The fate of Western Civilization depends on it, and if you don’t, I won’t let you get your driver’s license.”

44 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:03:34pm

re: #42 Ian G.

I’m going to hell for laughing at this, aren’t I?

I’ll save you a seat.

45 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:04:28pm

re: #44 Kragar

I’ll save you a seat.

re: #42 Ian G.

I’m going to hell for laughing at this, aren’t I?

Worse, You’re going to Texas…

46 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:05:03pm

re: #45 Iwouldprefernotto

Worse, You’re going to Texas…

FUCK YOU!

47 Mattand  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:06:37pm
At the Texas capitol today, where the state Senate is debating that regressive caveman anti-choice bill passed by the House a couple of days ago, state troopers are searching women and confiscating any tampons or pads they discover. Texas Republicans are scared that women will throw tampons at them. Yes, they are.

I read both this and the linked Huff Po article twice. I’m still not sure I actually believe it. It’s like a Kids in the Hall skit by way of Texas.

Only real.

The next time one of the resident conservatives here reams me out for saying they support the American Taliban, I’m just linking this article.

What. The. Fuck.

48 Dave In Austin  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:06:44pm

I love where I live but these people drive me crazy…..

49 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:06:53pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

This weird rumor that demonstrators planned to throw tampons and pads at Republicans originated at the horrific LifeNews.com: lifenews.com

If you actually read their drivel, you’ll find absolutely no evidence of a single demonstrator actually advocating throwing tampons at poor persecuted right wingers. But there are plenty of tweets from right wingers acting outraged about it.

It’s the creation of counterfeit history…advanced DARVO if you will: anything bad that happens is the fault of The Other; anything with bad optics your group is doing/is planning to do is justified as self-protection.

50 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:07:42pm

re: #47 Mattand

Actually the Taliban just phoned in and they think this tampon confiscation thing is going a little too far.

51 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:08:37pm

How far can you throw a tampon anyways?

52 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:10:03pm

re: #27 Kragar

Deace: The Survival Of Western Civilization Hinges On The Duggars

Really?

Fuck it, I’m joining the Huns then.

Mr. Deace is forgetting that Islam does allow for polygamy - provided you can afford it, of course.

So if one Mrs. Duggar can have nineteen kids, think of what four Mrs. Dr Lizardo’s can do.

Advantage: Dr. Lizardo.

Please note; I’m not advocating polygamy. One woman is quite enough for me, thank you very much.

53 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:11:29pm

Those pads are very light and bulky probably fly no more than a couple feet.

54 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:11:37pm

Looks like LifeNews.com is starting to imitate Twitchy.com - long posts consisting of nothing but nasty, stupid tweets from right wingers, kicked off by a ridiculous whopper of a fake outrage.

55 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:11:46pm

After the jury asked for the inventory of evidence, I’m now thinking that O’Mara may have overplayed his hubris hand.

But who the hell knows.

56 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:12:06pm

re: #48 Dave In Austin

You and me both. Been here in Austin since 1998. Lived in Texas all my life. These jackwagons are embarrassing.

57 Political Atheist  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:12:24pm

Gotta post & run, this is a little awkward at work…

Just want to say the topic read like a Tea Party twilight Zone

BBL

58 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:13:23pm

re: #51 Amory Blaine

How far can you throw a tampon anyways?

African or English?

—Monty Python reference—

59 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:13:23pm

re: #53 Amory Blaine

Those pads are very light and bulky probably fly no more than a couple feet.

Those galleries are pretty high up. You’d only have to toss it a little ways out and let it fall. But don’t forget IT WAS A LYING RUMOR!

60 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:15:32pm

re: #59 wrenchwench

I agree. I’m just thinking it would be a dumb thing to organize. Those activists gotta know the world is laughing at the legislature.

61 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:15:59pm

I’m sure Life News has been reading my comments recommending that women mail their used feminine hygiene devices to legislators who vote for Personhood bills.

Sorry, Texas women. I didn’t know they’d take it out on you.

62 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:17:08pm

I for one, welcome our new robotic overlords.


fastcompany.com

Sorta reminds me of Hector, the Demigod Series robot, from ‘Saturn 3’.

63 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:17:12pm

re: #53 Amory Blaine

Those pads are very light and bulky probably fly no more than a couple feet.

Don’t forget, they make pads with wings now!

64 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:17:17pm

Sysco Corporation Facing Fines for Storing Food in Outdoor Sheds

See, regulation is bad for business.

65 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:17:33pm

re: #63 wrenchwench

Don’t forget, they make pads with wings now!

Drones!!!

66 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:17:37pm

RT’d by a conservative friend of mine:

67 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:21:01pm

re: #59 wrenchwench

Those galleries are pretty high up. You’d only have to toss it a little ways out and let it fall. But don’t forget IT WAS A LYING RUMOR!

Again and again with these assholes, I’m reminded of a story I heard about Khrushchev. After Stalin died and Kruschev consolidated power, his adversaries expected him to have them killed, because it’s what they’d have done in his place.

Khrushchev told them, “You measure others by your own yardstick.”

I think it’s the same with the Teapublicans. They expect Dems, women, blacks, latinos, gays etc. to do what they would do in the same place. This is probably why they’re scared shitless of becoming an ethnic minority in the US - because they expect to be treated the way they’ve treated others.

68 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:24:23pm

re: #64 dragonath

Sysco Corporation Facing Fines for Storing Food in Outdoor Sheds

See, regulation is bad for business.

Now, if only we could get rid of the health department. Think of how much more profitable restaurants could be if they never had to clean up, or handle food properly.
//

69 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:25:02pm

re: #65 Amory Blaine

Drones!!!

Well, they are unmanned.

70 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:26:47pm

SYSCO supplies many restaurants and hospitals.

71 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:27:15pm

Because standing up for women’s rights is metal:

72 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:28:28pm
73 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:28:53pm

re: #71 Lidane

Only Teabagging wingnut Republicans for Jeebus know what liberties and freedoms we’re entitled to. //

74 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:29:20pm

re: #43 Kragar

“You going out with that Miller girl across the street?”
“Yes Dad.”
“You make sure you get her pregnant tonight. The fate of Western Civilization depends on it, and if you don’t, I won’t let you get your driver’s license.”

i never understood why people think obedience (“you WILL obey me young man!!!”) is such a great personality trait to instill in their children - unless they are grooming them for perpetual underling status

75 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:31:07pm

re: #74 engineer cat

i never understood why people think obedience (“you WILL obey me young man!!!”) is such a great personality trait to instill in their children - unless they are grooming them for perpetual underling status

Well, I will need minions when I conquer the world, so at least I’ll have a pool to recruit from.

76 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:31:48pm

re: #58 The Ghost of a Flea

African or English?

—Monty Python reference—

Laden or unladen?

77 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:35:10pm

His Twitter feed is amazing right now. I liked the guy for his free speech advocacy, but this is cool too:

78 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:36:36pm

re: #67 GeneJockey

Again and again with these assholes, I’m reminded of a story I heard about Khrushchev. After Stalin died and Kruschev consolidated power, his adversaries expected him to have them killed, because it’s what they’d have done in his place.

Khrushchev told them, “You measure others by your own yardstick.”

I think it’s the same with the Teapublicans. They expect Dems, women, blacks, latinos, gays etc. to do what they would do in the same place. This is probably why they’re scared shitless of becoming an ethnic minority in the US - because they expect to be treated the way they’ve treated others.

The size and moral depravity of their imagined opponent tells you exactly how large and unjust their own plans are. To maintain a sense of rectitude, they have to fabricate an opponent even more malefic.

Same as it ever was.

79 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:39:23pm
80 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:43:29pm
81 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:47:24pm

Things really quiet down here around 5 pm eastern time. You Pacific Rimmers gotta keep these threads burning….

82 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:49:34pm

Switching gears for a moment, it’s about time for Greenwald to start derping again:

83 SteveMcGazi  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:49:57pm

My face hurts:

Youtube Video

84 Stanley Sea  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:50:54pm

re: #83 SteveMcGazi

My face hurts:

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It is so bad. SO bad.

85 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:51:31pm

re: #27 Kragar

Deace: The Survival Of Western Civilization Hinges On The Duggars

Really?

Fuck it, I’m joining the Huns then.

Don’t worry, the Zionist Overlords have this under control. :)

86 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:52:13pm

re: #82 Lidane

Powerful states!!!!!

Extralegal!!!!!!

87 calochortus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:52:28pm

re: #85 Vicious Babushka

Don’t worry, the Zionist Overlords have this under control. :)

Thank you. I can now go do some sewing with a clear conscience.

88 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:54:44pm

Wait, where does Jesus say the Kingdom of God belongs to the one who procreates the fastest?

Well, I guess Jesus failed that test.

89 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:56:35pm

DERP

90 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:57:39pm

WHO CARE WHAT’S HAPPENING IN TEXAS!! PAY ATTENTION TO ME! MEE MEEE!!!!!

91 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:59:00pm

re: #89 Vicious Babushka

These people live in their own version of reality. It truly is astounding.

92 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:59:31pm

re: #90 Vicious Babushka

93 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:59:41pm

re: #89 Vicious Babushka

Someone needs to ask him for proof. The State Troopers doing the searches would have that info, yes? I know, these assholes spout shit and it enters the loop as true(Hail Satan!) but it’s really time to hit them back on the same social media they use to spread this crap. I’m so tired of them winning all the time when all they do is lie and cheat.

94 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 2:59:47pm

re: #91 Lidane

These people live in their own version of reality. It truly is astounding.

What “safe surgical procedures” is he referring to?

95 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:00:02pm

re: #89 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Citation Needed.

96 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:00:14pm

to stop women from getting safe surgical procedures

conversely, we need to protect men’s health by making sure that they don’t have unauthorized sex

that bill will be next i’m sure

97 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:00:26pm

re: #91 Lidane

These people live in their own version of reality. It truly is astounding.

And of course it requires no evidence. They just KNOW that’s what women would do.

98 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:00:28pm

Wendy Davis live at the TX Senate: Youtube Video

99 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:00:33pm

re: #94 Vicious Babushka

safe surgical abortions in safe surgical abortion places that don’t exist. //

100 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:01:06pm

re: #95 Kragar

Exactly. There is no proof of this, if there were, it would have been all over the news by now.

101 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:01:17pm

re: #96 engineer cat

to stop women from getting safe surgical procedures

conversely, we need to protect men’s health by making sure that they don’t have unauthorized sex

that bill will be next i’m sure

Chastity cages mandatory for all men.

For their health, of course.

102 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:01:18pm

re: #90 Vicious Babushka

I so don’t care about GGSnowden anymore.

103 Stoatly  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:01:25pm

re: #84 Fear the Blah People

It is so bad. SO bad.

Yep, at least this was genuinely funny:
Youtube Video

104 Bulworth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:01:52pm

re: #89 Vicious Babushka

Confirmed. FACT. //

105 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:02:02pm

re: #89 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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106 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:02:50pm

re: #93 A Mom Anon

Someone needs to ask him for proof. The State Troopers doing the searches would have that info, yes? I know, these assholes spout shit and it enters the loop as true(Hail Satan!) but it’s really time to hit them back on the same social media they use to spread this crap. I’m so tired of them winning all the time when all they do is lie and cheat.

PROOF!! WE DONT NEED NO STINKEN PROOF!! WHAT ELSE CAN YOU EXPECT FROM TEH EBIL BABY KILLERZ!!!!
Read the timeline of this tweet where she is repeatedly asked for proof.

107 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:02:51pm

Iowa’s All-Male Supreme Court: Firing Of Woman For Being Too Attractive Was Legal

Remember, these are the guys who were left after the nuts recalled the women after the gay marriage ruling.

108 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:03:14pm

re: #102 Bulworth

I do think it’s funny/alarming that Greenwald admitted he carries all those docs with him in some super, uber, Secret Squirrel type form now, wherever he goes.

I really wish he’d go to his little gated mansion and STFU.

109 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:03:23pm
110 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:05:03pm

re: #109 Lidane

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RU 486 - Mifepristone

Also used to control high blood sugar in patients with Cushing syndrome who also have type 2 diabetes and have failed surgery or are not candidates for surgery.

111 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:05:51pm

re: #108 A Mom Anon

I do think it’s funny/alarming that Greenwald admitted he carries all those docs with him in some super, uber, Secret Squirrel type form now, wherever he goes.

I really wish he’d go to his little gated mansion and STFU.

WHERE DID GOLLUM KEEP THE ONE RING WHILE HE HAD IT? BECAUSE HE’S NAKED EXCEPT FOR A LITTLE TINY LOINCLOTH.

112 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:07:31pm
113 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:07:56pm

re: #111 Vicious Babushka

WHERE DID GOLLUM KEEP THE ONE RING WHILE HE HAD IT? BECAUSE HE’S NAKED EXCEPT FOR A LITTLE TINY LOINCLOTH.

I believe Christopher Walken answered that in “Pulp Fiction”.

114 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:08:06pm

re: #111 Vicious Babushka

In my best Christopher Walken voice:

After your father died, I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. And now, little man, I give the Precious to you. /

115 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:08:27pm

Ten seconds.

116 Joanne  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:08:54pm

re: #107 dragonath

Iowa’s All-Male Supreme Court: Firing Of Woman For Being Too Attractive Was Legal

Remember, these are the guys who were left after the nuts recalled the good guys over gay marriage.

You’re attractive. Find a rich guy and catch em. Then have babies. Lots and lots of babies. And treat him real guud so he sticks around.

117 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:09:05pm
118 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:10:09pm

re: #117 lawhawk

“So, Nancy Grace, what does this tell us about the eventual verdict?”

119 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:11:07pm

re: #118 GeneJockey

“So, Nancy Grace, what does this tell us about the eventual verdict?”

“There will be one.”

120 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:12:30pm

re: #119 Kragar

“There will be one.”

“Or not.”

121 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:13:07pm

re: #111 Vicious Babushka

WHERE DID GOLLUM KEEP THE ONE RING WHILE HE HAD IT? BECAUSE HE’S NAKED EXCEPT FOR A LITTLE TINY LOINCLOTH.

If you watch “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey” carefully, there’s a quick scene that shows there’s actually a pocket in that tiny loincloth; the loincloth is perhaps the ruins of his trousers from back when he was Smeagol.

122 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:15:54pm

re: #120 GeneJockey

Speculation is rampant that this somehow means something. Like the jury got heated about something. Or not.

Same thing when people start wondering about how much time is spent deliberating. As if too short (and who defines that) means a verdict one way versus another, and that a longer deliberation means stalemate, though that depends on the number of charges and complexity of the case. No hard or fast rules or guidelines.

123 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:16:22pm
124 piratedan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:16:37pm

re: #90 Vicious Babushka

really Glenn, who gives a fuck? what a narcissistic troll he is.

125 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:17:37pm

re: #107 dragonath

Iowa’s All-Male Supreme Court: Firing Of Woman For Being Too Attractive Was Legal

Remember, these are the guys who were left after the nuts recalled the women after the gay marriage ruling.

It wasn’t because she was “too attractive” it was because he couldn’t control his own attraction to her and his wife evidently demanded that he fire her. kshb.com

126 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:18:56pm

re: #107 dragonath

Iowa’s All-Male Supreme Court: Firing Of Woman For Being Too Attractive Was Legal

Remember, these are the guys who were left after the nuts recalled the good guys over gay marriage.

Even my Republican female friends are facepalming over that one.

Firing someone for being too attractive? WTF.

127 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:19:26pm

re: #116 Joanne

The mind blowing part about this is that she was fired for denying his advances even IIRC the employer was married.

Conservatives also suck at “economic freedom” unless it means fucking over people.

128 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:20:40pm
129 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:21:08pm

re: #127 dragonath

They suck at ANYTHING that doesn’t involve fucking over people. Preferably in large numbers.

I’d love to see a list of one thing conservatives have done to improve the country in just the last decade. Hell, make it two.

130 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:22:01pm
131 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:22:34pm

re: #130 Lidane

I can think of a really good place for tampons for the male senators….

132 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:22:42pm

re: #129 A Mom Anon

Hell, no, make it 3.

133 bratwurst  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:25:47pm


Yes, an entire nation is PHYSICALLY holding one 29 year old punk down.

134 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:27:30pm

re: #129 A Mom Anon

I’d love to see a list of one thing conservatives have done to improve the country in just the last decade. Hell, make it two.

Non-compete contracts, forced arbitration as a hiring condition, sexual discrimination, racial discrimination, religious discrimination, esp. over birth control…

Wait, you mean good things?

135 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:27:42pm

re: #133 bratwurst

Reminder: Pay Attention To MEEEEEEEEE!

Would someone just buy Glenn that candy bar at the checkout line so he’ll shut the hell up?

136 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:28:41pm

DERP DERP DERP DERP
Actually Texas DPS has “confirmed” that SOMEONE TOLD THEM to look for these things.

137 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:28:43pm

re: #134 dragonath

Yeah, I kind of meant the good stuff. Hence the word, IMPROVE,lol. I’m weary of these fucking people.

138 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:29:48pm

re: #127 dragonath

Conservatives also suck at “economic freedom” unless it means fucking over people.

if i hear another lecture about the superiority of “job creators” and the necessity of providing them with “economic freedom” not appropriate for lesser mortals, i’m gonna puke up the entire industrial revolution

139 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:30:20pm

re: #136 Vicious Babushka

I want the actual proof from the Texas State Police, confirming it was the pro-choice people who did it. Until then, it didn’t happen.

140 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:31:00pm

Move over Pulitzer, here comes Life Site News

141 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:31:09pm
142 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:31:30pm

re: #139 A Mom Anon

I want the actual proof from the Texas State Police, confirming it was the pro-choice people who did it. Until then, it didn’t happen.

So far it’s only been wingnuts quoting other wingnuts, and NBC and CNN taking at face value statements from wingnuts.

143 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:31:43pm

re: #129 A Mom Anon

They suck at ANYTHING that doesn’t involve fucking over people. Preferably in large numbers.

I’d love to see a list of one thing conservatives have done to improve the country in just the last decade. Hell, make it two.

How about ever? When has it ever been the reasonable course of action to stop progress or to reverse it?

144 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:32:10pm

Video of the HB2 protests and counterprotests:

Vimeo

145 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:32:26pm

NO EVIDENCE of any pee or poop confiscated.

146 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:32:42pm

re: #111 Vicious Babushka

WHERE DID GOLLUM KEEP THE ONE RING WHILE HE HAD IT? BECAUSE HE’S NAKED EXCEPT FOR A LITTLE TINY LOINCLOTH.

The other answer is “Hammerspace”.

You know, the place from which cartoon characters suddenly pull a hammer, or a gun, or whatever, that they didn’t have a second ago, because they’re animals who don’t wear clothes.

147 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:33:38pm

re: #142 Vicious Babushka

So far it’s only been wingnuts quoting other wingnuts, and NBC and CNN taking at face value statements from wingnuts.

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If true, it’s criminal. If criminal, they have evidence.

148 abolitionist  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:34:11pm

Point of order in TX Senate — rule 11.13 — may derail current proceedings.

149 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:34:12pm

There is a Grand Derp Battle of Teh Twitters between Glenn Greenwald and various Texas wingnuts.

150 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:34:36pm

re: #122 lawhawk

Speculation is rampant that this somehow means something. Like the jury got heated about something. Or not.

Same thing when people start wondering about how much time is spent deliberating. As if too short (and who defines that) means a verdict one way versus another, and that a longer deliberation means stalemate, though that depends on the number of charges and complexity of the case. No hard or fast rules or guidelines.

Of course. When there’s no definitive information, the human mind finds patterns that don’t really exist. So, breaking after a long day MUST MEAN SOMETHING!!!!, rather than just being a bunch of folks who are tired.

151 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:34:41pm
152 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:34:54pm

re: #142 Vicious Babushka

Would it EVER occur to these fucking news channels to actually talk to the spokesperson for the Texas State Police and ask them what they confiscated, and if it can be confirmed that it was the pro-choice side that did it? And, wouldn’t that be considered a public health violation involving a ticket or possible arrest, or at least questioning?

153 BeenHereAwhile  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:36:47pm

re: #55 Justanotherhuman

After the jury asked for the inventory of evidence, I’m now thinking that O’Mara may have overplayed his hubris hand.

But who the hell knows.

Zimmerman may be found not guilty.

But any one who claims that Mark O’Mera is a good criminal defense attorney are either mistaken in their belief, or obviously have not observed a good criminal defense attorney at trial.

154 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:37:15pm

I am now officially totally sick and tired of Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald and Wikileaks.

155 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:37:31pm

Jars of urine, feces confiscated at TX capitol as abortion bill voting takes place

AUSTIN, TEXAS (DPS) - The Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) today received information that individuals planned to use a variety of items or props to disrupt legislative proceedings at the Texas Capitol.

Therefore for safety purposes, DPS recommended to the State Preservation Board that all bags be inspected prior to allowing individuals to enter the Senate gallery, which the State Preservation Board authorized.

During these inspections, DPS officers have thus far discovered one jar suspected to contain urine, 18 jars suspected to contain feces, and three bottles suspected to contain paint. All of these items - as well as significant quantities of feminine hygiene products, glitter and confetti possessed by individuals - were required to be discarded; otherwise those individuals were denied entry into the gallery.

In the interest of the safety and security of Texas legislators and the general public, these inspections will continue until the conclusion of Senate business.

156 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:38:10pm

re: #152 A Mom Anon

Would it EVER occur to these fucking news channels to actually talk to the spokesperson for the Texas State Police and ask them what they confiscated, and if it can be confirmed that it was the pro-choice side that did it? And, wouldn’t that be considered a public health violation involving a ticket or possible arrest, or at least questioning?

It’s something for the lawyers, but some kind of conspiracy to commit assault seems possible.

157 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:39:15pm

Texas Tribune update:

DPS officials confiscated one jar they suspected had urine and 18 jars they suspected had feces while searching bags of people entering the gallery, the department confirmed in a press release Friday afternoon.

Rumors had persisted earlier Friday that some protesters had tried to bring such containers into the gallery, but DPS officers outside the gallery said they had no knowledge of such attempts at the time.

The DPS issued a press release on what they’ve found so far:

AUSTIN - The Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) today received information that individuals planned to use a variety of items or props to disrupt legislative proceedings at the Texas Capitol.

Therefore for safety purposes, DPS recommended to the Texas Senate that all bags be inspected prior to allowing individuals to enter the Senate gallery, which the Texas Senate authorized.

During these inspections, DPS officers have thus far discovered one jar suspected to contain urine, 18 jars suspected to contain feces, and three bottles suspected to contain paint. All of these items - as well as significant quantities of feminine hygiene products, glitter and confetti possessed by individuals - were required to be discarded; otherwise those individuals were denied entry into the gallery.

In the interest of the safety and security of Texas legislators and the general public, these inspections will continue until the conclusion of Senate business.

Not quite proof, but getting closer.

158 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:39:29pm

re: #141 Stashed_The_Bill

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Twenty weeks is more than half-way home. I recall seeing my son at 20 weeks and it was pretty awesome, especially because my wife and I had 4 girls in a row. No way could you convince me that this was not a child. But who am I. I only vote.

Such a law is pointless. There are presently very few abortions after 20 weeks, and those that do occur are nearly all in response to medical issues that any humane law would provide exceptions for. Furthermore, such exceptions are degrading —- how close to death does one have to be before a mother’s life ‘exception’ kicks in?

And, by the way, the targeted regulation of abortion providers is a steaming crock of bullshit a mile wide and a mile deep.

159 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:42:33pm

re: #141 Stashed_The_Bill

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Twenty weeks is more than half-way home. I recall seeing my son at 20 weeks and it was pretty awesome, especially because my wife and I had 4 girls in a row. No way could you convince me that this was not a child. But who am I. I only vote.

Nobody wants to convince you your son was not a child.

Likewise, nobody wants you to try to convince a woman that if a 20 week old fetus is dead, or is going to kill her, she should be forced to continue the pregnancy anyway.

160 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:42:53pm

re: #157 wrenchwench

Something about this story smells.

161 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:43:27pm
162 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:43:56pm

re: #157 wrenchwench

Can they prove though that it was the pro-choice side doing this, since the anti-choice side are the ones who warned everyone this was supposedly the opposition plan? Not to say that the pro-choice side doesn’t have idiots, but I also know the anti-choice side isn’t prone to being sterling holders of all that is true either.

163 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:44:23pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

Something about this story smells.

That’s why it should be investigated seriously. We don’t need more “hail Satan” twits running about.

164 abolitionist  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:44:23pm

Mr West withraws his Point of order “at this time.”

165 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:45:02pm

re: #162 A Mom Anon

Can they prove though that it was the pro-choice side doing this, since the anti-choice side are the ones who warned everyone this was supposedly the opposition plan? Not to say that the pro-choice side doesn’t have idiots, but I also know the anti-choice side isn’t prone to being sterling holders of all that is true either.

DNA.

166 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:46:58pm

re: #162 A Mom Anon

Can they prove though that it was the pro-choice side doing this, since the anti-choice side are the ones who warned everyone this was supposedly the opposition plan? Not to say that the pro-choice side doesn’t have idiots, but I also know the anti-choice side isn’t prone to being sterling holders of all that is true either.

They can only do that if they were tagging confiscated items and cuffing suspects. I see no sign of that occurring.

167 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:46:58pm

re: #141 Stashed_The_Bill

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Twenty weeks is more than half-way home. I recall seeing my son at 20 weeks and it was pretty awesome, especially because my wife and I had 4 girls in a row. No way could you convince me that this was not a child. But who am I. I only vote.

The 20 week thing is a smokescreen. As others have said, very few abortions happen post 20 weeks, and those that do are primarily for serious medical issues. The goal is political theater and incrementalism.

Let me be frank - if my wife were in such a situation, where she was >20 weeks pregnant and continuing the pregnancy would threaten her life or health, I’d approve the abortion in a second.

168 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:47:42pm
169 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:49:53pm
170 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:50:15pm

re: #167 GeneJockey

By now my position has become rather simple —- I can’t think of any justification for any law regulating abortion at all.

Normal medical licensing and medical ethics standards should apply (which is enough to prevent the RWNJ thought experiment of the abortion in the last week for the hell of it).

171 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:51:36pm
172 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:52:17pm
173 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:54:08pm

re: #167 GeneJockey

Which is why any decision about a pregnancy should be between the woman and her doctor. Even the husband or boyfriend must take at face value what a doctor or the woman says about an event that really only involves her body, not his.

Women can’t force men to have a vasectomy or tell them what to do about their sexual function; likewise, men should have no say-so in how a woman handles hers. You would expect there would be a discussion between 2 people who love each other and share a life, but in the end, it is the woman’s choice should rise above her mate’s, and his above hers concerning his body.

174 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:56:23pm

re: #170 EPR-radar

By now my position has become rather simple —- I can’t think of any justification for any law regulating abortion at all.

Normal medical licensing and medical ethics standards should apply (which is enough to prevent the RWNJ thought experiment of the abortion in the last week for the hell of it).

It always seems vitally important to them to prevent/prohibit things that almost never happen, even at the expense of the freedom of millions of Americans. For example, a Wingnut friend asked me, if I believed in marriage equality, how could I justify a law that would prohibit an adult son from marrying his father. BTW, he clearly meant an incestuously homosexual relationship, not just ‘marriage’ for tax bennies.

I asked, “Do you think that this is a big problem? Lots of adult children just waiting for the State to allow them to marry their parents?”

Why they spend SO MUCH TIME worrying about this shit is something I cannot fathom.

175 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:57:10pm

re: #172 Stashed_The_Bill

Link to the info please.

176 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:57:25pm
177 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:57:44pm

re: #172 Stashed_The_Bill

And there will be about a million abortions of one form or another per year.

So 20 week+ abortions are 1.1% of all abortions, the vast majority of those for dire medical need.

178 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 3:58:24pm

re: #173 Justanotherhuman

Which is why any decision about a pregnancy should be between the woman and her doctor. Even the husband or boyfriend must take at face value what a doctor or the woman says about an event that really only involves her body, not his.

Women can’t force men to have a vasectomy or tell them what to do about their sexual function; likewise, men should have no say-so in how a woman handles hers. You would expect there would be a discussion between 2 people who love each other and share a life, but in the end, it is the woman’s choice should rise above her mate’s, and his above hers concerning his body.

Exactly. I realized after I posted that it might seem as if I meant ‘approve’ in the sense of ‘allow’ rather than in the sense of ‘agree with’.

179 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:00:01pm

re: #177 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

And there will be about a million abortions of one form or another per year.

So 20 week+ abortions are 1.1% of all abortions, the vast majority of those for dire medical need.

Yes.

180 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:01:32pm
181 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:01:36pm

re: #179 Gus

Yes.

In addition, the biggest factor pushing abortions into the 20+ week range when it’s not a medical emergency is obstruction of access to abortion clinics. Many working women can’t afford in time or money the four doctor’s visits that the laws in some areas mandate, in any sort of timely fashion.

So if you want to reduce late-term abortion, fund abortion clinics generously.

182 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:02:03pm

re: #176 darthstar

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Yeah, but not the seat cushions of the balconies of the halls of legislation!

183 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:02:05pm

re: #174 GeneJockey

It always seems vitally important to them to prevent/prohibit things that almost never happen, even at the expense of the freedom of millions of Americans. For example, a Wingnut friend asked me, if I believed in marriage equality, how could I justify a law that would prohibit an adult son from marrying his father. BTW, he clearly meant an incestuously homosexual relationship, not just ‘marriage’ for tax bennies.

I asked, “Do you think that this is a big problem? Lots of adult children just waiting for the State to allow them to marry their parents?”

Why they spend SO MUCH TIME worrying about this shit is something I cannot fathom.

IMO, its just a pack of lies. E.g., the opposition to marriage equality is driven by animus against gays and lesbians. The farcical thought experiments are just a cloud of dust they kick up to try to hide where they are really coming from, which is always some combination of a personal ‘ick’ factor and religion-soaked bigotry.

Late term abortion bans are a political device to get people used to laws that deny women their autonomy.

It remains true that if men could get pregnant, Abortion would be a Sacrament.

184 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:02:51pm

re: #145 Vicious Babushka

NO EVIDENCE of any pee or poop confiscated.

I’m shocked!

186 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:03:32pm

Update to my earlier Page

The Shady Group Behind the African-American Anti-Immigration Rally

187 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:03:44pm

re: #183 EPR-radar

IMO, its just a pack of lies. E.g., the opposition to marriage equality is driven by animus against gays and lesbians. The farcical thought experiments are just a cloud of dust they kick up to try to hide where they are really coming from, which is always some combination of a personal ‘ick’ factor and religion-soaked bigotry.

Late term abortion bans are a political device to get people used to laws that deny women their autonomy.

It remains true that if men could get pregnant, Abortion would be a Sacrament.

RU-486 would be next to the beer nuts on the bar.

188 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:04:21pm

We’ve got another one of these religious fanatic “fetal pain” man-splainers going at it in Texas right now.

189 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:04:45pm

re: #181 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

In addition, the biggest factor pushing abortions into the 20+ week range when it’s not a medical emergency is obstruction of access to abortion clinics. Many working women can’t afford in time or money the four doctor’s visits that the laws in some areas mandate, in any sort of timely fashion.

So if you want to reduce late-term abortion, fund abortion clinics generously.

I’m just waiting for some wingnut legislator out there to propose a law mandating a 15 week waiting period. Combine that with a 20 week ban, and nearly everything will be banned. Wingnut judges would rule such a law as being reasonable because 15 is less than 20.

190 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:06:13pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

We’ve got another one of these religious fanatic “fetal pain” man-splainers going at it in Texas right now.

Does he explain how the only research done on the matter was on rats, and they have no other studies or research to back them up?

191 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:06:43pm
192 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:07:11pm

re: #189 EPR-radar

I’m just waiting for some wingnut legislator out there to propose a law mandating a 15 week waiting period. Combine that with a 20 week ban, and nearly everything will be banned. Wingnut judges would rule such a law as being reasonable because 15 is less than 20.

Combine it with redefining pregnancy to start counting 2 weeks earlier than doctors do. They passed that in Arizona.

193 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:07:26pm

re: #190 Kragar

Does he explain how the only research done on the matter was on rats, and they have no other studies or research to back them up?

What, like his “science” was actual science or something?

Next you’ll be scoffing at anthropometry and Social Darwinism.

194 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:07:44pm

re: #192 wrenchwench

Combine it with redefining pregnancy to start counting 2 weeks earlier than doctors do. They passed that in Arizona.

Silly, don’t you know pregnancy begins before conception?
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195 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:08:01pm

re: #191 Stashed_The_Bill

Did you miss my above post?

196 Joanne  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:08:04pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

I am now officially totally sick and tired of Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald and Wikileaks.

I’ve been sick of them for a couple of weeks now.

197 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:08:30pm

re: #194 Kragar

LIFE BEGINS AT AROUSAL

198 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:08:44pm

re: #181 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

In addition, the biggest factor pushing abortions into the 20+ week range when it’s not a medical emergency is obstruction of access to abortion clinics. Many working women can’t afford in time or money the four doctor’s visits that the laws in some areas mandate, in any sort of timely fashion.

So if you want to reduce late-term abortion, fund abortion clinics generously.

And if you want to reduce abortion overall, heavily fund Planned Parenthood.

199 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:08:56pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

I am now officially totally sick and tired of Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald and Wikileaks.

Friend of mine tweeted this image, noting the irony:

Image: irony.jpg

200 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:10:57pm

re: #90 Vicious Babushka

WHO CARE WHAT’S HAPPENING IN TEXAS!! PAY ATTENTION TO ME! MEE MEEE!!!!!

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201 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:11:35pm

re: #183 EPR-radar

My last child was a very difficult pregnancy. He was a big baby, I’m not that large of a person. 12 lbs, 4oz. at birth C-section. Large incision, bed rest in the last trimester(torn uterine ligament), etc. Lots going on, lots could have gone wrong. Long recovery.

My Ob/Gyn had been in practice at that time(almost 20 yrs ago)for over 30 yrs. We talked a lot during that time because at one point I had to go in twice a week for monitoring. He was part of a large practice affiliated with several hospitals and clinics in the area. He told me that he had NEVER, in all his time of practicing saw one abortion at the 20 week mark or later. In the entire practice there had been one, when the baby died just before the start of the last trimester. That’s all. There were 10 doctors in that group.

The 20 weeks BS is about making this a horror show, to get people to think of embryos as fully formed babies. The vast majority of abortions occur in the 8-12 week range, an EMBRYO, not a fetus, not a baby. An embryo doesn’t really look distinctly human, the fetus does more so. This is a shitty psychological game they’re playing, a fucked up marketing ploy. Nothing more.

202 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:12:09pm

North Carolina Governor: Moral Monday Protesters Are Not Very Moral

“I go out in the crowd all of the time,” McCrory told the newspaper on Wednesday. “Frankly, yesterday I went out and talked to several of them and they were not very respectful. They did not represent the majority of those who call themselves moral by cussing me out. But that’s the way things go some times.”

They used naughty words, therefore their arguments are invalid.

MORALS!
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203 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:12:15pm
204 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:12:35pm

Drudge touting Infowars once again in their latest tweet about rioting upon outcome of the Zimmerman case.

205 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:14:31pm
206 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:14:49pm

re: #203 Stashed_The_Bill

Please reference the data or study or anonymous comments to a CNN story.

Are you in favor of banning all abortions?

207 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:15:04pm

re: #203 Stashed_The_Bill

Please reference the data or study or anonymous comments to a CNN story.

What are you talking about? I’m not disputing your numbers. I’m saying that 11,000 late-term abortions, compared to one million total abortions, means that late-term abortions are 1.1% of all abortions. Most of them are due to extreme medical necessity, and those that aren’t are generally because the woman couldn’t get access to an abortion clinic due to restrictions and mandates to have multiple doctor visits, etc.

Do you understand?

208 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:16:59pm

re: #183 EPR-radar

IMO, its just a pack of lies. E.g., the opposition to marriage equality is driven by animus against gays and lesbians. The farcical thought experiments are just a cloud of dust they kick up to try to hide where they are really coming from, which is always some combination of a personal ‘ick’ factor and religion-soaked bigotry.

Late term abortion bans are a political device to get people used to laws that deny women their autonomy.

It remains true that if men could get pregnant, Abortion would be a Sacrament.

Oh, no doubt. But they do seem to spend an awful lot of time obsessing on the mechanics of gay sex, and on the most outlandish scenarios.

209 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:18:53pm

re: #202 Kragar

McCrory has his head firmly up Art Pope’s ass. And I would tell him so to his face, the lying weasel. Son of Duke Energy, boyfriend of the Chamber of Commerce, too. Anything he does must pass muster with them.

The fact that he lied during his campaign about not changing any abortion laws and now will not veto anything of the sort that comes across his desk, shows that he is the one without “morals”.

And he worries about language? Fuck him.

210 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:19:14pm
211 twisty  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:20:05pm

Yes I know, bleh Slate, but it’s an informative article from a doctor in pediatrics if you haven’t read it already:

slate.com

Why do some women wait so long? The answer is that comprehensive fetal testing, such as anatomical sonograms and ultrasounds of the heart, are typically performed just before 20 weeks of gestation. Such scans are critical for uncovering major birth defects, such as anencephaly (severe brain malformations), major heart defects, missing organs and limbs, and other severe birth defects.

212 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:20:06pm
213 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:20:50pm
214 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:21:21pm

re: #213 Stashed_The_Bill

Yes. All abortions in every situation.

That makes it easy. Go to hell.

215 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:21:30pm

re: #210 Stashed_The_Bill

I’m inclined to believe the CBO/CDC numbers and if they are in fact accurate, where does it leave your argument?

Dude, the numbers are accurate. Which means that late-term abortions are 1.1% of all abortions, and they’re almost all for medical reasons. Why aren’t you listening?

216 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:21:43pm

re: #213 Stashed_The_Bill

Yes. All abortions in every situation.

Then we’re done.

217 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:22:09pm

re: #213 Stashed_The_Bill

Yes. All abortions in every situation.

So, the situation of a fourteen year old girl who had been raped by her father and will give birth to a child that has a genetic disease that will mean it’s life is measured in days, and will live a life of pain for those days— you would force the fourteen year old girl to give birth?

218 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:22:13pm

re: #213 Stashed_The_Bill

Yes. All abortions in every situation.

And you’re an idiot.

219 twisty  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:22:47pm

re: #213 Stashed_The_Bill

Yes. All abortions in every situation.

You sure about that?

220 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:23:04pm

re: #213 Stashed_The_Bill

Yes. All abortions in every situation.

Ah.

So your focus on late term abortion is exactly what we’ve all said - a smokescreen, political theater you use to sound reasonable while holding an extremist view.

221 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:23:06pm

re: #213 Stashed_The_Bill

Next comes the mansplaination that we aren’t morally able to think for ourselves so he thinks the Gub’ment should do it for us.

222 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:23:14pm
223 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:23:17pm

re: #213 Stashed_The_Bill

Yes. All abortions in every situation.

Ectopic pregnancy? Anencephaly in the fetus?

224 Interesting Times  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:23:30pm

re: #213 Stashed_The_Bill

Yes. All abortions in every situation.

OH HAI DID YOU CONFUSE THIS FOR AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL?

Talibangelical freak.

225 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:23:30pm

Lack of feminine hygiene turns Texas capitol into large flowing vagina.

Image: 9052_10201480526279286_1668250352_n.jpg

226 AlexRogan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:24:54pm

re: #64 dragonath

Sysco Corporation Facing Fines for Storing Food in Outdoor Sheds

See, regulation is bad for business.

re: #68 GeneJockey

Now, if only we could get rid of the health department. Think of how much more profitable restaurants could be if they never had to clean up, or handle food properly.
//

re: #70 Amory Blaine

SYSCO supplies many restaurants and hospitals.

Sysco has 180 distribution centers here, in Canada, and in Ireland (?); not all are ran the same way. I’ve dealt with Robert Orr Sysco here in Nashville many, many times and have never had any major issues.

Sysco San Francisco management (and perhaps their regional management) needs to be crucified over this.

227 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:25:55pm

re: #222 Stashed_The_Bill

I understand but where are you getting your information to show they are due to extreme medical necessity and restricted access?

You know what? Since you tried to be a sneaky asshole and pretend that you’re only objecting to late-term abortions when you’re against all abortion, there is literally no point in debating late-term abortion with you.

I do not get why you people think being so crudely, stupidly duplicitous is going to reflect well on you.

228 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:25:56pm

re: #213 Stashed_The_Bill

Assuming you’re actually serious and not just a blatant troll, fuck off.

And if you’re serious, then what are your opinions on comprehensive sex ed and birth control?

229 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:26:22pm

OT, but I have another Doctor Who page up. Also, tell JamesFireCat I have fallen.

230 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:26:29pm

re: #227 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

You know what? Since you tried to be a sneaky asshole and pretend that you’re only objecting to late-term abortions when you’re against all abortion, there is literally no point in debating late-term abortion with you.

I do not get why you people think being so crudely, stupidly duplicitous is going to reflect well on you.

Lying for Jesus.

231 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:26:53pm

OFFS:


Another responsible gun operator… can’t say he’s a gun owner, since it appears he wasn’t a lawful owner either.

232 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:27:03pm

re: #223 EPR-radar

Ectopic pregnancy? Anencephaly in the fetus?

Let them die. God will know his own.

233 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:27:55pm

re: #210 Stashed_The_Bill

It leaves my argument that around ONE PERCENT of abortions occur at the 20 week mark. That’s where it leaves it. It’s not a common thing, it’s rare. In fact, the report you site says that some of those later term abortions could be or might be avoided with more adequate access to proper facilities sooner in the pregnancy. Making it more difficult to get to the proper clinic and having to jump through more hoops than ANY man has to do for ANY MEDICAL procedure is the problem here. You want fewer abortions? Lobby for proper sex education, for more available and affordable birth control, keep fairy tales and religious nonsense out of classrooms and teach the biology. Lobby to keep clinics open and encourage those clinics to hold classes for younger and yes, even some older adults who don’t understand simple human biologic processes. Keep the slut shaming and fear mongering out of sexual health and education and you’d see a dramatic drop in abortions, I’d bet actual money on that.

Anyone who thinks that women casually get ANY abortion, let alone one at the 20 week mark, because of some imagined “inconvenience” or consider it no more than a manicure is a fool at best.

234 twisty  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:30:00pm

re: #231 lawhawk

How many fucking child deaths by firearm is that this year alone? Come to think of it I’m not sure I want to know.

235 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:30:37pm

re: #233 A Mom Anon

You want fewer abortions? Lobby for proper sex education, for more available and affordable birth control, keep fairy tales and religious nonsense out of classrooms and teach the biology. Lobby to keep clinics open and encourage those clinics to hold classes for younger and yes, even some older adults who don’t understand simple human biologic processes. Keep the slut shaming and fear mongering out of sexual health and education and you’d see a dramatic drop in abortions, I’d bet actual money on that.

We’ve already done that experiment. The control was the rest of the industrialized world, where unwanted pregnancies and abortions are much lower despite a similar level of sexual activity.

But, you know, that’s Europe, and they’re all godless losers there, or something.

236 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:31:20pm

re: #234 twisty

How many fucking child deaths by firearm is that this year alone? Come to think of it I’m not sure I want to know.

About average, for a guess. We’re just watching more closely since the post-Sandy Hook legislation failed.

237 Interesting Times  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:31:21pm

re: #234 twisty

How many fucking child deaths by firearm is that this year alone? Come to think of it I’m not sure I want to know.

abortion is never justified but children killed by firearms is okay because FREEDOM

238 Joanne  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:31:36pm

re: #217 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

So, the situation of a fourteen year old girl who had been raped by her father and will give birth to a child that has a genetic disease that will mean it’s life is measured in days, and will live a life of pain for those days— you would force the fourteen year old girl to give birth?

Was it a legitimate rape?

239 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:31:52pm

re: #141 Stashed_The_Bill

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Twenty weeks is more than half-way home. I recall seeing my son at 20 weeks and it was pretty awesome, especially because my wife and I had 4 girls in a row. No way could you convince me that this was not a child. But who am I. I only vote.

Tell me how it works out for you when YOU are the one pregnant with a dying fetus in your belly while you have out of control blood pressure, bleeding and massive septic infection in your womb.
In the meantime, STFU.

240 prairiefire  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:32:40pm

These Texas loonies have awakened the Giant Womb of Righteousness!

241 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:32:41pm

re: #234 twisty

How many fucking child deaths by firearm is that this year alone? Come to think of it I’m not sure I want to know.

The US is a big country, and guns are very widespread. A distressingly high body count from such accidents inevitably follows.

242 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:32:48pm
243 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:33:20pm

re: #235 GeneJockey

Yeah, I know, I saw after I posted that, that this guy is one of those nimrods who opposes all abortions for any reason. Because he’s a man and he knows every fucking situation and every possible factor involved.

244 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:33:22pm

re: #238 Joanne

Was it a legitimate rape?

She should have had a bottle of aspirin, hurr de hurr hurr.
///

245 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:34:07pm
246 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:34:15pm

re: #243 A Mom Anon

Yeah, I know, I saw after I posted that, that this guy is one of those nimrods who opposes all abortions for any reason. Because he’s a man and he knows every fucking situation and every possible factor involved.

But he votes.

Sigh.

247 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:34:27pm

re: #245 Gus

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Youtube Video

248 twisty  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:34:55pm

re: #236 Decatur Deb

About average, for a guess. We’re just watching more closely since the post-Sandy Hook legislation failed.

True, there is more attention being paid now. But on the other hand I’d be surprised if this increase in gun sales didn’t also carry an increase in gun deaths.

249 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:34:58pm

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tell me how it works out for you when YOU are the one pregnant with a dying fetus in your belly while you have out of control blood pressure, bleeding and massive septic infection in your womb.
In the meantime, STFU.

Let’s see if we can get a mad scientist to implant ectopic pregnancies into especially obnoxious forced birthers. /half

250 Joanne  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:36:13pm

re: #234 twisty

How many fucking child deaths by firearm is that this year alone? Come to think of it I’m not sure I want to know.

There’s a twitter feed that follows that. He’s tweeting multiple deaths daily.

251 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:36:43pm

re: #225 darthstar

Lack of feminine hygiene turns Texas capitol into large flowing vagina.

Image: 9052_10201480526279286_1668250352_n.jpg

That’s what I thought it looked like last week, but I was afraid to say so…

252 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:37:46pm

re: #168 Gus


253 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:38:14pm

re: #245 Gus

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So much win in under 140 characters.

254 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:38:21pm

re: #248 twisty

True, there is more attention being paid now. But on the other hand I’d be surprised if this increase in gun sales didn’t also carry an increase in gun deaths.

Depends on the distribution and the number of small targets available. If you want to scare yourself, try to visualize the angular area of a child at varying distances from a discharging gun, then realize how many inadvertant discharges miss. Responsible, my ass.

255 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:39:29pm

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tell me how it works out for you when YOU are the one pregnant with a dying fetus in your belly while you have out of control blood pressure, bleeding and massive septic infection in your womb.
In the meantime, STFU.

in wingnuttia, all pregnancies are of the platonic ideal type

256 Joanne  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:39:41pm

re: #244 Kragar

She should have had a bottle of aspirin, hurr de hurr hurr.
///

Only one…keeps those knees nice and tight.

257 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:39:52pm

re: #172 Stashed_The_Bill

Ok. I didn’t know that. I have never seen a mile-wide crock, but I will take your word on that.

I know the CBO released a report showing approximately 11,000 annual abortions at 20 weeks or greater. The report must have been wrong and I will research the data now.

Also, I believe you should have used currently in lieu of the chosen presently.

here’s a clue: look to WHY those abortions were medically necessary. None were abortions of “convenience”.
And stop being an asshole.

258 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:40:35pm

re: #246 dragonath

Yeah, well so do I. And so does my pro-choice husband.

259 otoc  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:40:37pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

I am now officially totally sick and tired of Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald and Wikileaks.

I’m sick of activist reporters twisting reality to serve a message they wish others to accept. Worse, I’m sick of ex-lawyers confusing journalism with the games they played in court. Really have no respect in reading this propaganda coming from a guy who is adapt at snipping from miniscule text counts on twitter.

260 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:40:46pm

re: #248 twisty

Esp those who keep an arsenal, don’t lock them up or leave them loaded, and use them for purposes not intended, for instance, ever seen someone using a handgun to pound in a nail?

They’re usually uneducated, ignorant white guys who see danger lurking in every corner and their “rights” being eroded because of The Other.

And what the hell, they can have another kid. Or 6. That is actually the thinking of these ignoramuses. All done while slugging down their 12 pack every night.

Unfortunately, I live among these types.

261 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:41:21pm

Better question is whether our newcomer believes in personhood beginning at conception or at some later point.

262 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:41:34pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

And stop being an asshole.

I don’t think that’s possible. It joined today & likely won’t be here tomorrow.

263 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:42:14pm

re: #261 lawhawk

Better question is whether our newcomer believes in personhood beginning at conception or at some later point.

I believe Elvis has left the building. After he broke cover, he hasn’t uttered a peep.

264 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:42:22pm
265 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:42:52pm

re: #264 Stashed_The_Bill

You can use the ‘pencil’ icon to edit your post and make it visible.

266 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:43:05pm

re: #261 lawhawk

Better question is whether our newcomer believes in personhood beginning at conception or at some later point.

Most likely he believes it begins when you’re male.

267 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:43:07pm

re: #264 Stashed_The_Bill

I think you meant to say “peep”.

268 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:45:33pm

re: #261 lawhawk

Or some earlier point.

I can assure you, if his wife had had a pregnancy that resulted in a fetal death, he wouldn’t expect her to carry that baby to 40 weeks and then give birth to a stillborn and yes, possibly septic baby if the death had occurred weeks earlier. Or force the birth of a child with no brain or missing parts, so it and his wife could suffer the trauma and pain involved.

If he could, or would force the issue, he’s a monster.

269 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:48:26pm

re: #268 A Mom Anon

Or some earlier point.

I can assure you, if his wife had had a pregnancy that resulted in a fetal death, he wouldn’t expect her to carry that baby to 40 weeks and then give birth to a stillborn and yes, possibly septic baby if the death had occurred weeks earlier. Or force the birth of a child with no brain or missing parts, so it and his wife could suffer the trauma and pain involved.

If he could, or would force the issue, he’s a monster.

He has stated a preference for an abortion ban without exception. That is a monstrous position, and he is a moral monster at least until that position is withdrawn.

270 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:48:51pm

Speaking of moral outrages:

New Report Says: Jenny McCarthy’s Son May Not Have Had Autism After All

271 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:48:52pm
272 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:49:50pm

re: #271 Stashed_The_Bill

Hang around, we’ll bake you a martyr cookie.

273 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:49:54pm

protracted scenes of computer-generated robots fighting computer-generated dinosaurs, to the accompaniment of a deafening soundtrack

it’s a winnah!

274 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:50:07pm

re: #213 Stashed_The_Bill

Yes. All abortions in every situation.

Until it’s your Wife or Daughters is raped I bet.

// But then again, they probably deserved it because they just happened to dress like sluts. Isn’t that the standard excuse? They asked for it?

275 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:50:51pm

re: #271 Stashed_The_Bill

We’ve hit the “ZOMG YOU PEOPLE” stage! Awesome.

Someone get the grill ready.

276 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:50:59pm

re: #271 Stashed_The_Bill

Why don’t you tell us more about yourself…?

What’s your position on gay marriage? Contraception funding? Sex Ed?

277 SidewaysQuark  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:51:03pm

Extremism in any form sucks, and left wing and right wing extremists can be equally obnoxious, so it doesn’t surprise me that a few idiots may have intended to hurl urine or feces. What’s even worse, though, was the mere notion that confiscating feminine hygiene products from women was a “good idea”, under any circumstance. Looks to me like a blatant attempt to humiliate women who wanted to exercise their political rights (at worst) or a downright imbecilic disregard for the dignity of women (at best).

278 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:51:09pm

re: #271 Stashed_The_Bill

Grow a spine, dude.

Again:

So, the situation of a fourteen year old girl who had been raped by her father and will give birth to a child that has a genetic disease that will mean it’s life is measured in days, and will live a life of pain for those days— you would force the fourteen year old girl to give birth?

You’ll notice that post contains no ‘hate’ whatsoever, and yet you dodged the question.

279 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:51:18pm

re: #271 Stashed_The_Bill

please, not another descent into self pity

oh, the humanity!

280 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:51:23pm

re: #276 dragonath

Why don’t you tell us more about yourself…?

What’s your position on gay marriage? Contraception funding? Sex Ed?

Death penalty?

281 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:51:24pm

This should get the nutters derping. Hehe.

282 twisty  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:53:08pm

re: #271 Stashed_The_Bill

You have stated a position that is incredibly, shockingly callous. Either you are actually heartless, or (giving you the benefit of a doubt here) just very, very ignorant about the many situations that can lead to abortion. People do not respond well to heartlessness or deep ignorance. If you’re going to display either of those qualities, be prepared for the response.

283 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:54:40pm

re: #273 engineer cat

protracted scenes of computer-generated robots fighting computer-generated dinosaurs, to the accompaniment of a deafening soundtrack

it’s a winnah!

“It’s a beautiful poem to giant monsters”.
-Guillermo del Toro

I can’t help but think the Japanese have gotta be loving this; two well-known tropes of modern Japanese popular culture, kaiju and giant mecha, featuring in an American film, directed by a Mexican director.

Japanese pop culture has truly gone global.

284 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:54:45pm

re: #271 Stashed_The_Bill

i’ll give you some friendly advice: you need to show that you can submit gracefully to harsh criticism if you want to join our little social group

285 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:54:50pm

re: #271 Stashed_The_Bill

I do not get why you people think being so crudely, stupidly duplicitous is going to reflect well on you.

Sounds an awful lot like hate. I thought Charles didn’t allow haters.

Its not hate. Its just we’re tired on sanctimonious pricks who are full of crap trying to make the whole world live by their rules.

286 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:54:58pm

re: #272 Decatur Deb

Hang around, we’ll bake you a martyr cookie.

I knew it! I’m surrounded by assholes!

287 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:56:30pm

re: #271 Stashed_The_Bill

…
Sounds an awful lot like hate. I thought Charles didn’t allow haters.

There’s a handy little feature at LGF by which offensive and hateful posts can be reported to Charles and the moderators. Please proceed.

My fearless prediction is that the relatively mild abuse you have seen so far, in response to your ethically indefensible position, is nowhere close to being bad enough to get your opponents banned.

288 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:57:38pm

re: #271 Stashed_The_Bill

Here’s the rub.
You came in here with a deceptive concern for 20 week abortions when you’re clearly opposed to all forms of it no matter what. Many engaged you and pointed out facts. You then drop the against it all anyway no matter the reasons. So…
Yeah.

289 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:58:18pm
290 122 Year Old Obama  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:59:15pm

re: #289 Stashed_The_Bill

Why does the girl’s life have to be ruined though?

291 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 4:59:25pm

re: #280 Decatur Deb

Separation of church and state? Or theocracy?

292 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:00:14pm

re: #289 Stashed_The_Bill

That innocent baby did nothing to deserve to die and killing that baby won’t do the girl justice.

My answer to is no abortion ever under any circumstance. It is my opinion that abortion is intrinsically evil and completely void of any good.

So your opinion should be the law of the land, just because you disagree with something, no matter what other people think?

293 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:00:25pm

re: #289 Stashed_The_Bill

That innocent baby did nothing to deserve to die and killing that baby won’t do the girl justice.

Do you understand that in this scenario we know that the child will die shortly after birth? And why are you talking about ‘justice’? What does that have to do with this? We’re not talking about justice, about punishment.

My answer to is no abortion ever under any circumstance. It is my opinion that abortion is intrinsically evil and completely void of any good.

And this comes from a belief in the supernatural, correct? That even before an embryo has anything approaching a human brain, it has a ‘soul’— something you can’t in any way prove to me, but which you assert you know through revealed truth? Right?

294 PeterWolf  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:00:29pm

re: #289 Stashed_The_Bill

I think that response says it all. The baby is indeed innocent and for its innocence must be sentenced to a very short life of pain and suffering.

295 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:00:31pm

re: #290 122 Year Old Obama

Why does the girl’s life have to be ruined though?

Because it was her choice…?

Oh wait

//

296 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:00:39pm

re: #289 Stashed_The_Bill

That innocent baby did nothing to deserve to die and killing that baby won’t do the girl justice.

My answer to is no abortion ever under any circumstance. It is my opinion that abortion is intrinsically evil and completely void of any good.

Clearly you are an ignorant man. If it was YOU that couldn’t have an abortion if you needed one, you’d be singing a different tune.

297 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:00:43pm

re: #288 Varek Raith

Here’s the rub.
You came in here with a deceptive concern for 20 week abortions when you’re clearly opposed to all forms of it no matter what. Many engaged you and pointed out facts. You then drop the against it all anyway no matter the reasons. So…
Yeah.

Nobody who is ‘deeply concerned’ about 20+ week abortions has that as their only concern. Such late term abortions are about 1% of the total.

No anti-choicer is going to be content with only a 1% ban.

298 122 Year Old Obama  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:00:43pm

In fact, why would it be okay for the mother to die if such a circumstance would come up? Why does it not matter that in many of those cases, the fetus would die as well anyways? Why increase the number of deceased?

299 AlexRogan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:01:38pm

re: #271 Stashed_The_Bill

Love these single-issue newbies, the ones that think that they’re smarter than the rest of the room and get pissy when facts show otherwise (usually after they figuratively open their traps).

“Stashed_The_Bill”, you see that flash of light in the corner of your eye? That’s your LGF goodwill dissipation light…it just went into high gear.

300 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:01:55pm

re: #292 Kragar

So your opinion should be the law of the land, just because you disagree with something, no matter what other people think?

My wife is religiously convinced that eating meat on a Friday in Lent is a mortal affront to the order of the universe. She’s coming after you, rib joints.

301 twisty  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:01:56pm

re: #289 Stashed_The_Bill

Abortion, sadly, is not as black and white as you or I or anyone would prefer to believe.

302 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:01:57pm

re: #282 twisty

You have stated a position that is incredibly, shockingly callous. Either you are actually heartless, or (giving you the benefit of a doubt here) just very, very ignorant about the many situations that can lead to abortion. People do not respond well to heartlessness or deep ignorance. If you’re going to display either of those qualities, be prepared for the response.

Callous. The question that needs to be asked. Does this piece of excrement accept, that after the Government forces a Women to have a Child, that it has a responsibility to care for that Child, once it leaves the womb?

Curious minds want to know.

303 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:02:34pm

re: #289 Stashed_The_Bill

No. The evil is in you. The moral absolutism you desire is always evil.

304 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:03:41pm

re: #298 122 Year Old Obama

In fact, why would it be okay for the mother to die if such a circumstance would come up? Why does it not matter that in those cases, the fetus would die as well anyways? Why increase the number of deceased?

The inference is that it would be the mother’s fault if she did not accept her rapist’s child.

305 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:03:44pm
306 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:03:45pm

re: #292 Kragar

So your opinion should be the law of the land, just because you disagree with something, no matter what other people think?

This is a democracy, so if enough people are like-minded, then yes, it would eventually become the law of the land.

That is why sensible people need to be engaged in politics, so that nutcases don’t end up in control.

307 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:03:52pm

Stashed is a tyrant, seeking to impose his world view under the guise that he knows whats best for them, no matter what they might think.

308 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:04:17pm

re: #305 Stashed_The_Bill

I’m pretty sure all laws come from peoples’ opinions.

Tell that to the women in Texas.

309 PeterWolf  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:05:08pm

re: #303 William Barnett-Lewis

No. The evil is in you. The moral absolutism you desire is always evil.

Indeed, and there is no argument and no debate to be had with such people. It’s simply not possible for them to even entertain rational debate or thought.

310 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:05:09pm

re: #305 Stashed_The_Bill

I’m pretty sure all laws come from peoples’ opinions.

But in this case, particularly, this comes from a religious conviction of yours, right?

311 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:05:33pm

re: #289 Stashed_The_Bill

Your opinion is yours. I don’t believe that. Abortion is legal. For many, many good medical reasons. You are not judge nor doctor. Don’t want an abortion? Don’t have one. And don’t tell anyone else what medical procedures they can or can’t have. I’m sure you wouldn’t want anyone telling you what you and your doctor decide is best for your health and well being.

Oh, and all those babies that women will be having in your version of America with no abortions? Are you going to devote your life to making sure they are adopted into loving homes and not just left in foster care? Are you going to make sure those poor families have the resources they need to raise those children?

312 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:05:53pm

re: #305 Stashed_The_Bill

Do you find it evil that you anti choice people spread lies and misinformation about abortion?
Does that bother you at all? Why do you have to lie if your cause is so noble?

313 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:06:28pm

re: #274 Bubblehead II

Until it’s your Wife or Daughters I bet.

// But then again, they probably deserved it because they just happened to dress like sluts. Isn’t that the standard excuse? They asked for it?

naw…if it was his wife, he’d just bid a fond adieu and welcome the new replacement (and much younger model) wife…just like in the Puritan days.

314 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:07:21pm

re: #305 Stashed_The_Bill

I’m pretty sure all laws come from peoples’ opinions.

Surprisingly few people are asked for their opinions in a theocracy or a dictatorship.

315 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:07:23pm

re: #309 PeterWolf

Indeed, and there is no argument and no debate to be had with such people. It’s simply not possible for them to even entertain rational debate or thought.

I’m always puzzled when a dogmatic statement of an extreme point of view is expressed as if were self-evident.

316 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:07:27pm
317 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:08:44pm

re: #316 Stashed_The_Bill

Actually not. I have always been ardently pro-life and ardently anti death penalty.

Ectopic pregnancy. Please explain how that should be handled in your view.

318 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:08:58pm

re: #191 Stashed_The_Bill

20 weeks or more after fertilization

Did you know that implantation may occur up to 14 days after fertilization. So what you are saying is that 11,000 abortions take place after 18 weeks.

Do you know the difference between fertilization and implantation?

319 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:09:06pm

re: #316 Stashed_The_Bill

Actually not. I have always been ardently pro-life and ardently anti death penalty.

Have you picketed an abortion clinic? A prison execution?

320 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:09:12pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

naw…if it was his wife, he’d just bid a fond adieu and welcome the new replacement (and much younger model) wife…just like in the Puritan days.

The sad actuality is that there are people who are honestly, so to speak, against abortion, who have been brought up to believe it is a terrible sin and truly believe it, who watch their wives die from complications in pregnancy, wanting to do something but stopped by their religious conviction. Likewise, devout women, truly believing they would be offending god if they aborted their embryo, die in dangerous pregnancies. It’s not as simple as “believe abortion is a sin and lose all empathy”. If that were true, it wouldn’t be a problem, the numbers of people opposed to abortion would be so small. But the sad, tragic, very human truth is that there are people who are deeply devout enough to believe in some things that are in practically cruel, without those people being unempathetic or unfeeling or callous.

It’s important to remember that they’ve been influenced so heavily by culture. This sort of stuff isn’t natural.

321 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:09:22pm

re: #316 Stashed_The_Bill

Actually not. I have always been ardently pro-life and ardently anti death penalty.

Unless the death is visited upon a pregnant woman. You’re fine with that.

322 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:10:03pm

re: #316 Stashed_The_Bill

Hear that? It’s my golf clap for your moral integrity. Now go to a desert island where you can live by your pretend morals without destroying other people’s lives.

323 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:10:15pm

SteelPH,

Did you misding #305?

324 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:10:18pm

re: #213 Stashed_The_Bill

Yes. All abortions in every situation.

Okey dokey, FOAD.

325 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:10:30pm

re: #311 A Mom Anon

Your opinion is yours. I don’t believe that. Abortion is legal. For many, many good medical reasons. You are not judge nor doctor. Don’t want an abortion? Don’t have one. And don’t tell anyone else what medical procedures they can or can’t have. I’m sure you wouldn’t want anyone telling you what you and your doctor decide is best for your health and well being.

Oh, and all those babies that women will be having in your version of America with no abortions? Are you going to devote your life to making sure they are adopted into loving homes and not just left in foster care? Are you going to make sure those poor families have the resources they need to raise those children?

indeed

i would add that many people think that the need for abortions would be radically less if we lived in a society that did everything it could to see that all families have everything they need to raise happy, healthy children

abortions mostly happen because people find themselves in tough spots. making them against the law doesn’t change that - changing society so that there are fewer of these tough spots would be a much more effective way of lowing the number of abortions

we have so many children already alive that need our help

326 elizajane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:10:30pm

Behold: the Tampon Shooter Blowgun:

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327 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:10:36pm

re: #316 Stashed_The_Bill

Actually not. I have always been ardently pro-life and ardently anti death penalty.

Okay. Explain the rationale that says that an embryo that has nothing approaching a function brain is a ‘baby’, then. Why are you opposed to abortion before anyone could possibly call the embryo sentient?

See, it’s rather common for people opposed to abortion on religious grounds to pretend that they are not actually religious, but they run into the problem that there are no absolutist anti-abortion arguments that are not religiously sourced.

328 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:10:42pm
329 122 Year Old Obama  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:10:50pm

re: #323 Kragar

Yes I did, oops! Fixed.

330 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:11:00pm

re: #317 EPR-radar

Ectopic pregnancy. Please explain how that should be handled in your view.

There’s no such thing as hue, value, or chroma! The world is black and white! Good and evil!

331 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:11:14pm

re: #289 Stashed_The_Bill

That innocent baby did nothing to deserve to die and killing that baby won’t do the girl justice.

My answer no abortion ever, under any circumstance. It is my opinion that abortion is intrinsically evil and completely void of any good.

said by someone akin to those who gloriously just walk away from sowing their wild oats with sluts who must be punished for their slutty female wiles because boys will be boys…

332 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:11:37pm

BBIAB

333 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:12:13pm

Something else that bothers the hell out of me.
Most anti choicers also oppose anything that would help reduce the number of abortions. Their only plan is to ban them.

334 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:12:15pm

re: #328 Stashed_The_Bill

Where there is agreement, unity; where there is disagreement, liberty; but in all things, charity. -St. Agustine

he’s the one come up with the ‘original sin’

335 Internet Tough Guy  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:12:34pm

Why are you responding to an obvious troll?

336 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:12:36pm

re: #289 Stashed_The_Bill

That innocent baby did nothing to deserve to die and killing that baby won’t do the girl justice.

My answer no abortion ever, under any circumstance. It is my opinion that abortion is intrinsically evil and completely void of any good.

In Obdi’s scenario, the child would live for a few days in intense pain, but Stash thinks it would be evil to deprive that child of that suffering, and similarly it would be evil to deprive the incestuously raped teenager of the 9 months of suffering, followed by the pain of giving birth to a baby that will die in agony within days, leaving that teenager with huge emotional scars, and a significantly greater chance of permanent injury and death.

This is not the response of someone with reverence for life. This is the response of a fetus fetishist.

337 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:12:39pm

re: #328 Stashed_The_Bill

Where there is agreement, unity; where there is disagreement, liberty; but in all things, charity. -St. Agustine

Yet you offend Augustine, by outlawing liberty in the face of disagreement…

338 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:12:41pm

re: #328 Stashed_The_Bill

Ah, yes. Augustine. Raised Roman or Orthodox?

339 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:12:44pm
340 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:12:59pm

re: #335 Internet Tough Guy

Why are you responding to an obvious troll?

Practice.

341 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:13:06pm

re: #328 Stashed_The_Bill

Where there is agreement, unity; where there is disagreement, liberty; but in all things, charity. -St. Agustine

Right. But your opposition to abortion is totally not religiously based, but you’re quoting St. Augustine passive-aggressively.

342 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:13:21pm

Yes, start closing down abortion clinics and such. The same clinics that provide contraception which itself reduces the need for abortions. Makes sense, no?

343 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:13:49pm

re: #333 Varek Raith

Something else that bothers the hell out of me.
Most anti choicers also oppose anything that would help reduce the number of abortions. Their only plan is to ban them.

being told by an anti-abortion activist how many abortions there had been since roe vs wade, i asked how many abortions there had been before roe vs wade

they hadn’t thought to consider that

344 AlexRogan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:13:55pm

re: #289 Stashed_The_Bill

That innocent baby did nothing to deserve to die and killing that baby won’t do the girl justice.

My answer no abortion ever, under any circumstance. It is my opinion that abortion is intrinsically evil and completely void of any good.

Seems like you’ve made your position crystal clear, you misanthropic excuse for a human being.

Get bent.

345 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:14:47pm

re: #335 Internet Tough Guy

Why are you responding to an obvious troll?

It’s fascinating.
/Spock

346 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:14:48pm

re: #335 Internet Tough Guy

Why are you responding to an obvious troll?

Because in this case it’s easy fun. He’s not a very good troll but it’s like a cat batting a mouse before the kill.

347 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:14:48pm

re: #335 Internet Tough Guy

Why are you responding to an obvious troll?

You don’t think we can make him change his mind?

/

348 PeterWolf  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:15:20pm

re: #339 Stashed_The_Bill

Indeed. I have silently prayed in front of many abortions mills as well as a prison before an execution here in the Prairie State.

Oh, what a surprise to see those buzzwords emerge. Not. And note “mills” versus “a prison”. The one opposed to the many.

349 Political Atheist  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:15:36pm

I found this bag of charcoal. Bag says “Match Light Mesquite Troll Coal”. Huh. Must be leftover from when that one troll got busted by the Feds and went to prison. Can anyone think of a good use for this bag of charcoal tonight?

350 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:15:40pm

re: #335 Internet Tough Guy

Why are you responding to an obvious troll?

Engaging with trolls can be useful on two fronts: one, presenting the counterargument is important, because many people may not have actually seen it before. You’ve got to remember that in many parts of the US, children are taught in school stuff that would be considered trolling if presented here.

The second is similar, but it’s demonstration of the troll-ishness, which helps people spot them later, likewise, if they’ve never run across the typical patterns of behavior.

351 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:15:55pm

I also like to understand what makes certain people tick. Be it good or bad. Call it an odd hobby.

352 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:16:43pm

re: #351 Varek Raith

I also like to understand what makes certain people tick. Be it good or bad. Call it an odd hobby.

Long as you’re not opening them up….

353 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:17:03pm

re: #289 Stashed_The_Bill

That innocent baby did nothing to deserve to die and killing that baby won’t do the girl justice.

My answer no abortion ever, under any circumstance. It is my opinion that abortion is intrinsically evil and completely void of any good.

What about an ectopic pregnancy?

What about eclampsia or septic infection in the woman? (Which caused that Indian woman in Ireland to die)

Hmm?

You realize that if the mother dies THE FETUS ALSO DIES so you are just causing TWO DEATHS you heartless asshole.

354 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:17:16pm

re: #352 wrenchwench

Long as you’re not opening them up….

Not just yet.

355 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:17:27pm

re: #352 wrenchwench

Long as you’re not opening them up….

…
Yes…
At least I’m not doing that.
No, that would be… Bad.

356 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:17:28pm

re: #351 Varek Raith

I also like to understand what makes certain people tick. Be it good or bad. Call it an odd hobby.

Doesn’t that usually involve vivisection?

357 122 Year Old Obama  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:17:41pm

re: #335 Internet Tough Guy

On the off chance we get a reasonable conversation going.

358 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:18:24pm

re: #354 GeneJockey

re: #356 Decatur Deb

And here comes the mad scientist persecution.

359 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:19:02pm

re: #353 Vicious Babushka

What about an ectopic pregnancy?

What about eclampsia or septic infection in the woman? (Which caused that Indian woman in Ireland to die)

Hmm?

You realize that if the mother dies THE FETUS ALSO DIES so you are just causing TWO DEATHS you heartless asshole.

See my #232 for his thinking. Sad little evil man.

360 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:19:17pm

re: #358 Varek Raith

And here comes the mad scientist persecution.

I’m not mad, and I’m now an Associate Director, thank you very much.

361 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:19:39pm

re: #358 Varek Raith

And here comes the mad scientist persecution.

You learned to tell time by smashing Rolexes at high speed.

362 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:20:11pm

re: #316 Stashed_The_Bill

Actually not. I have always been ardently pro-life and ardently anti death penalty.

Do you protest the death penalty as well? Or is that a lesser evil?

Nevermind, I see the answer above.

363 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:20:18pm

re: #357 122 Year Old Obama

On the off chance we get a reasonable conversation going.

That looks like its going to be very hard here. If someone is against abortion even in the case of an ectopic pregnancy, there is little hope.

364 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:22:01pm

re: #335 Internet Tough Guy

Why are you responding to an obvious troll?

if he can argue in a civilized fashion, i think a radically different point of view would be a useful addition to the debate

365 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:22:20pm

Everyone here knows that I am pro-life, that I have 9 children and I have never chosen to have an abortion because, thank G-D there were no life-threatening complications in any of my pregnancies.

That said, it is not my decision to make for ANY OTHER WOMAN.

366 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:22:42pm

re: #361 Decatur Deb

You learned to tell time by smashing Rolexes at high speed.

That’s actually the ways things are done in some cases. Particle physics is analogous to smashing watches into each other at high speed and trying to figure out how the watches are constructed based on the sprays of watch wreckage.

367 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:22:42pm

re: #361 Decatur Deb

You learned to tell time by smashing Rolexes at high speed.

i’m thinking of hiring a million monkeys to write code for me

368 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:23:09pm

re: #365 Vicious Babushka

That said, it is not my decision to make for ANY OTHER WOMAN.

I would certainly hope not.

That is a Man’s job.
///

369 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:23:37pm

re: #365 Vicious Babushka

Proving that one can be pro life AND pro choice at the same time.

370 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:24:03pm

The mother’s and fetus’s life are in danger. You have 4 choices.
A. Let them both die.
B. Abort the fetus to save the mother.
C. Deliver the now baby, killing the mother.
D. Deliver the now baby, killing the mother and baby.

Stashed_The_Bill’s comments indicate he chooses A.

I can’t even begin to understand how anyone could think like that.

371 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:24:19pm

re: #367 engineer cat

i’m thinking of hiring a million monkeys to write code for me

You’ll need a pack of hyenas for quality control.

372 Interesting Times  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:24:37pm

re: #370 Varek Raith

The mother’s and fetus’s life are in danger. You have 4 choices.
A. Let them both die.
B. Abort the fetus to save the mother.
C. Deliver the now baby, killing the mother.
D. Deliver the now baby, killing the mother and baby.

Stashed_The_Bill’s comments indicate he chooses A.

I can’t even begin to understand how anyone could think like that.

That’s easy. God’s will. Derp.

373 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:25:10pm

re: #370 Varek Raith

The mother’s and fetus’s life are in danger. You have 4 choices.
A. Let them both die.
B. Abort the fetus to save the mother.
C. Deliver the now baby, killing the mother.
D. Deliver the now baby, killing the mother and baby.

Stashed_The_Bill’s comments indicate he chooses A.

I can’t even begin to understand how anyone could think like that.

Ignorance, malevolence, absolutism, or a combination of the three.

374 twisty  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:25:15pm

re: #333 Varek Raith

Precisely. I’d personally prefer there to be as few abortions as possible and that fight as with many things needs to be in prevention. Birth control availability, lots of it. Research to make existing BC more effective. Sex education, lots of it, and NOT Abstinence Only. Abstinence Only is like handing a teen a Driver Training manual in which a single sentence is printed: stay at home! And then giving them the keys. Makes me mad as cats that there are people who don’t think that approach is completely ludicrous.

375 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:25:25pm

It is almost time to stop rolling. I made a Key Lime Pie.

376 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:25:31pm

re: #366 EPR-radar

That’s actually the ways things are done in some cases. Particle physics is analogous to smashing watches into each other at high speed and trying to figure out how the watches are constructed based on the sprays of watch wreckage.

Yeah, but they remove the watch bands and pocket fobs first.

/I toured Fermi Lab a few years ago.

377 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:25:34pm

I firmly believe abortion should be a last resort after proper sex education and birth control, and all 3 need to be easily available to all women.

378 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:25:35pm

re: #366 EPR-radar

That’s actually the ways things are done in some cases. Particle physics is analogous to smashing watches into each other at high speed and trying to figure out how the watches are constructed based on the sprays of watch wreckage.

Ah, but the best way to understand how a watch works is to take it apart and put it back together, observing the characteristics of each piece and its function as part of the whole.

379 Interesting Times  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:26:35pm

re: #378 GeneJockey

Ah, but the best way to understand how a watch works is to take it apart and put it back together, observing the characteristics of each piece and its function as part of the whole.

I Was One Of Those Kids Who Always Took Cats Apart To See How They Worked

Take cats, for example. Most kids like petting cats or playing with them, but I was always the kid who was sort of off by himself, taking cats apart, familiarizing himself with their bone and tissue fibers, and really learning how each piece of the cat connected to the next.

380 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:26:55pm

re: #369 A Mom Anon

Proving that one can be pro life AND pro choice at the same time.

I recommend against that use of language, actually.

The term ‘Pro-choice’ should be reserved for the position that laws should basically allow abortion.

Similarly, the term ‘Pro-life’ should be reserved for the position that laws should basically ban abortion.

‘Pro-choice in public but pro-life in private’ gives the legislative pro-life extremists political cover they do not deserve.

381 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:27:36pm

re: #378 GeneJockey

Ah, but the best way to understand how a watch works is to take it apart and put it back together, observing the characteristics of each piece and its function as part of the whole.

Pfftt. Obviously someone who doesn’t know how to write a grant request.

382 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:27:47pm

True story.
When I was three, I took all the door plates off the frames. I also took apart my toys and put them back together, sometimes successfully.

384 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:28:30pm

re: #381 Decatur Deb

Pfftt. Obviously someone who doesn’t know how to write a grant request.

Well….not successfully, anyway.

385 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:28:46pm

re: #383 GeneJockey

I’m one of those adults who takes watches apart to see how they work.

I would take apart pencils.

386 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:30:00pm

re: #384 GeneJockey

Well….not successfully, anyway.

At one of our R&D installations, 5-carat diamonds were consumable tools.

387 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:30:02pm

re: #382 Varek Raith

True story.
When I was three, I took all the door plates off the frames. I also took apart my toys and put them back together, sometimes successfully.

when i was about 8 or 9 i asked for a Tiny Tears doll

of course, my suburbian parents freaked right out (i am a male person). but they got me the doll

all i wanted to do was to take it apart and figure out how the tears operation worked

sheesh

388 Interesting Times  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:30:47pm

Oh hai I just found the one feminine hygiene product that comes Texas GOP-approved:

Taiwan: Sanitary pad scheme ‘to help women conceive’

Apparently, Taiwanese “tradition” dictates that pregnant women can “share their luck” - increasing another’s chances of bearing children - by passing on unused towels or tampons. And the capital’s civil affairs department hopes the scheme will boost its birth-rate, reports the Taipei Times. “We hope that Taipei residents who want to get pregnant will be blessed by the lucky pads and that their wishes will come true,” it quotes department commissioner Huang Lu Ching-ju as saying.

389 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:31:24pm

re: #379 Interesting Times

I Was One Of Those Kids Who Always Took Cats Apart To See How They Worked

More impressed if you put them back together and made them work.

390 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:31:51pm

re: #375 Vicious Babushka

It is almost time to stop rolling. I made a Key Lime Pie.

May you have a wonderful (and tasty) time of rest. We’ll hand this troll his ass on a platter.

391 SidewaysQuark  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:31:59pm

re: #339 Stashed_The_Bill

Indeed. I have silently prayed in front of many abortions mills as well as a prison before an execution here in the Prairie State.

Central to your premise is the belief that a 1st trimester fetus is a “human” capable of pain, feelings and humanity. It’s a belief that betrays a complete ignorance of basic prenatal biology, as well as the assumption that your ascertaition of knowledge overrides the desperate needs of women who find themselves in the undesirable position of seeking an abortion, too often with no support from the male contributor to the situation.

392 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:32:01pm

Interview: Meet Dan Spitz, Anthrax Guitarist Turned Master Watchmaker

Dan Spitz, former lead guitarist for thrash metal band Anthrax, has sold more than 15 million albums, been nominated for 3 Grammy’s, created over 10 studio albums - and now he is recognized as one of the best watchmakers in the world. After leading one of the greatest metal bands of all time, he abruptly departed Anthrax and pursued numerous courses of study to master the art of watchmaking.

393 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:32:21pm

re: #370 Varek Raith

The mother’s and fetus’s life are in danger. You have 4 choices.
A. Let them both die.
B. Abort the fetus to save the mother.
C. Deliver the now baby, killing the mother.
D. Deliver the now baby, killing the mother and baby.

Stashed_The_Bill’s comments indicate he chooses A.

I can’t even begin to understand how anyone could think like that.

For an ectopic pregnancy, the choices are even starker. The fetus is doomed and will not be born. There are only two choices:

A) Abort to save the life of the mother.

B) Do nothing and watch both die, well before week 36.

Choosing (A) here is the act of a moral idiot.

394 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:32:21pm

re: #388 Interesting Times

O_o

395 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:35:10pm

re: #389 Decatur Deb

More impressed if you put them back together and made them work.

LIFE!! GIVE MY CREATION LIIIIIFFFFE!!!!

396 Joanne  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:35:35pm

re: #328 Stashed_The_Bill

Where there is agreement, unity; where there is disagreement, liberty; but in all things, charity. -St. Agustine

Explain your position against abortion without making any reference to religion.

397 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:35:36pm

re: #394 Varek Raith

O_o

City staff have some experience in the matter, it seems. One district office director - who’s nine months gone - reportedly says she received such “wonderful blessings” from friends soon after marrying. “I hope that female residents who want to get pregnant will be blessed through this activity,” she adds.

How many blessings have you received through inanimate objects?

398 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:38:16pm

re: #392 Kragar

Interview: Meet Dan Spitz, Anthrax Guitarist Turned Master Watchmaker

Yeah, I saw that. I’d kill for his workshop.

399 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:39:54pm

re: #388 Interesting Times

Oh hai I just found the one feminine hygiene product that comes Texas GOP-approved:

Taiwan: Sanitary pad scheme ‘to help women conceive’

Ran into something like that. The park at the top of Namsan Mountain is a favorite spot for Korean wedding celebrations. One day our family visited, and a couple families ‘borrowed’ our blonde/blueyed miguk kids for their wedding photos—for ‘luck’.

400 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:40:19pm

Insurance Company Gets Fucked Over By Another Cancer Patient

401 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:43:41pm

re: #333 Varek Raith

Something else that bothers the hell out of me.
Most anti choicers also oppose anything that would help reduce the number of abortions. Their only plan is to ban them.

To put it crudely, having large numbers of women dying as a result of botched back alley abortions would suit the RWNJs just fine. The world view of the so-cons requires visible evidence that what they regard as ‘sins’ lead to consequences including death.

402 A Mom Anon  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:43:55pm

re: #380 EPR-radar

Had it been anyone besides VB I wouldn’t have said that. I usually use anti-choice or anti-abortion instead of pro-life. Pro-choice instead of pro-abortion.

Probably not my best choice of words, but there it is.

403 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:44:04pm

re: #371 Decatur Deb

You’ll need a pack of hyenas for quality control.

we have Stash_The_Bill for that…

//

404 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:44:17pm
405 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:44:37pm

I Kissed a Republican Chewing Gum

406 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:45:18pm

re: #404 Charles Johnson

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They’ve been getting a lot of information about great deals on porn as well.

407 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:47:32pm

Save some gamey buttocks for the kittehs.

Later, lizards.

408 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:48:57pm

re: #406 Kragar

They’ve been getting a lot of information about great deals on porn as well.

I just had an ad for a phony WND poll show up. And one for post-partum foundation garments.

409 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:49:02pm
410 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:49:06pm

“Dear NSA Officer,

My name is Nelson Wheatly Brown and I am head of security Oxford Central Airport Nottinghamshire. I am writing to you because of an undeliverable package left in our holding area. We have reason to believe that it contains 4 to 6 million dollars USD…”

411 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:49:15pm

store.theonion.com

412 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:51:29pm

The good book, anyone?

store.theonion.com

413 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:53:18pm

store.theonion.com
XD

414 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:54:10pm

The new version of Tweetdeck is pretty great - I recommend it to all LGF readers, if you want to get some control over what you see on Twitter. It’s definitely my preferred Twitter client at this point, with Tweetbot for iOS a close second when I’m on the iPhone.

415 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:55:24pm

I’m debating whether or not I should get a set of animal butt magnets for a friend.

416 AlexRogan  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:55:39pm

re: #401 EPR-radar

To put it crudely, having large numbers of women dying as a result of botched back alley abortions would suit the RWNJs just fine. The world view of the so-cons requires visible evidence that what they regard as ‘sins’ lead to consequences including death.

“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Romans 6:23) is a RWNJ all-time favorite, especially the first part.

417 Majacita  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:55:57pm

My daughter in law had an ectopic pregnancy and had to have emergency surgery. My best friend had her twin fetuses die and had to have a D and C. Both had the medical care they needed. Neither of them even knows that what actually occurred was considered an abortion. They would be horrified to learn that they should have both died instead according to some people.

418 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:56:52pm

store.theonion.com

419 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:57:30pm
420 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:58:01pm

re: #419 Gus

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Fanatics.

421 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 5:59:50pm

re: #416 AlexRogan

“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Romans 6:23) is a RWNJ all-time favorite, especially the first part.

If you ever have a lot of of time on your hands, like you’re in jail, go through the Bible and count how many of the named characters are killers or the victims of killers. Don’t even count the nameless slaughtered like that Gesher thing.

The Sopranos had a better survival rate.

422 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:01:00pm

This is getting decent mileage.

423 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:04:41pm

Stayfree© or Die

424 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:04:47pm

re: #333 Varek Raith

Something else that bothers the hell out of me.
Most anti choicers also oppose anything that would help reduce the number of abortions. Their only plan is to ban them.

Much is being made of the report that some baby was being adopted with Down’s Syndrome, ignoring that there are hundreds - thousands of babies that need adoption or are put into foster care without anyone clamoring for those children.

It’s the same kind of twitterati response to the girl who needed a lung transplant and the demands that the existing procedures be ignored to grant an exemption to this girl ignoring that it would put someone else at a disadvantage.

Turns out that this girl ended up with significant complications - needing a second lung transplant just days after the first. That meant that at least two people who might have gotten the transplant were denied so that this girl got hers first. Logic and reasoning out the window when they ignore that the fact that there’s a shortage of organs for transplant because of a lack of donors. Change that and you can eliminate the need for waiting lists. That gets ignored and the issue de jour fades as the twitterati go on to the next outrageous outrage.

425 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:06:49pm

re: #422 Gus

This is getting decent mileage.

As it should.

Charles, can you add a function that would upding Gus every time he posts? I’m wasting time doing this. Please get on this ASAP.

426 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:08:02pm

re: #424 lawhawk

Good point. A related one is that any rational health care system is going to end up needing procedures for making decisions on what to do with limited resources (i.e., ‘death panels’). Denial of this point is unreasonably popular.

427 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:11:18pm

re: #425 Iwouldprefernotto

As it should.

Charles, can you add a function that would upding Gus every time he posts? I’m wasting time doing this. Please get on this ASAP.

Thanks. Of course I have my occasional moody moments. :D

428 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:16:17pm

re: #328 Stashed_The_Bill

Where there is agreement, unity; where there is disagreement, liberty; but in all things, charity. -St. Agustine

Ambulatory wombs are apparently not included in ‘all things’.

429 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:17:10pm

re: #426 EPR-radar

Good point. A related one is that any rational health care system is going to end up needing procedures for making decisions on what to do with limited resources (i.e., ‘death panels’). Denial of this point is unreasonably popular.

And discussion of this point unreasonably unpopular. I think admitting that we can’t give everything to everybody is generally acceptable in the abstract, but saying you can’t give THIS treatment to THIS person is not, no matter how expensive the treatment nor how limited the efficacy, nor how old or otherwise sick the patient.

430 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:18:31pm

re: #427 Gus

Thanks. Of course I have my occasional moody moments. :D

I’m still smiling from the Kim Jung Un and the 8 Track tape.

431 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:18:35pm
432 Stanley Sea  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:19:49pm

Lovely.

433 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:20:07pm

Image: 6834435396_ceb5bdc8fe_z.jpg

434 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:20:57pm

re: #426 EPR-radar

Good point. A related one is that any rational health care system is going to end up needing procedures for making decisions on what to do with limited resources (i.e., ‘death panels’). Denial of this point is unreasonably popular.

And, as you know, medical progress is usually knee-capped by people who are overly concerned about such things. Stem cells, so-called “fruit-fly” research…

435 [deleted]  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:25:12pm
436 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:25:19pm

Whoa now.

437 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:25:50pm

re: #435 Stashed_The_Bill

lol

438 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:25:59pm
439 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:26:24pm

It wasn’t KTVU - someone inside the NTSB released that fucked up shit.

Gobsmacked.

440 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:27:37pm

re: #435 Stashed_The_Bill

Breitbart Reports on Zimmerman Verdict Riot Plan, Commenters Spew Torrents of Racism
Not hiding anything

Stashed_The_Bill Comments on Abortion, Lizards Spew Torrents of Hate, Name-Calling.
Not hiding anything

I don’t get guys like you. I would never think of going to Breitbart and trolling them over there. Whatever I suppose.

441 klys  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:28:21pm

re: #439 Charles Johnson

It wasn’t KTVU - someone inside the NTSB released that fucked up shit.

Gobsmacked.

I remain unclear if it is someone at the station called with the names and the intern said “Oh yeah, those are right” or the the station called with the correct names and the intern said “Oh no, the names were xxxx.”

Either way this is a giant mess and I think an intern is very much not ever getting a recommendation for that.

442 twisty  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:28:40pm

re: #435 Stashed_The_Bill

Reiterating my previous point that when you state a heartless position, people will not and are not obligated to reply positively. Time for you to put on big boy pants.

443 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:28:45pm

re: #435 Stashed_The_Bill

Breitbart Reports on Zimmerman Verdict Riot Plan, Commenters Spew Torrents of Racism
Not hiding anything

Stashed_The_Bill Comments on Abortion, Lizards Spew Torrents of Hate, Name-Calling.
Not hiding anything

did you see the lincoln movie that came out last year? did you notice how harsh the congressmen were with each other? did you see how they took it in stride and gave out in kind?

444 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:29:33pm

Science.

445 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:29:57pm

re: #438 jaunte

Facts, statistics and science are all ignored when the larger goal is to eliminate abortion clinics. That’s the point of TRAP laws - wrap them up in a veneer of legitimacy by claiming it’s for public health and safety, but once you get past the lip service, it’s all about closing clinics and reducing womens’ access to care.

Many simply are not hiding their agenda.

446 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:30:47pm

re: #442 twisty

Reiterating my previous point that when you state a heartless position, people will not and are not obligated to reply positively. Time for you to put on big boy pants.

can i wear big girl panties instead?

447 klys  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:30:54pm

re: #435 Stashed_The_Bill

Breitbart Reports on Zimmerman Verdict Riot Plan, Commenters Spew Torrents of Racism
Not hiding anything

Stashed_The_Bill Comments on Abortion, Lizards Spew Torrents of Hate, Name-Calling.
Not hiding anything

So…we have different points of view.

Your point of view is that abortions should never happen. I say, “Great, you should never get one then.”

My point of view is that it’s each woman’s choice whether or not she feels an abortion is appropriate to her situation. Your response to this is, “No, I should be allowed to tell women what to do with their bodies, even if it means they might die as a result.”

I don’t really think it’s hateful to say that I think your belief that you should be able to enforce your point of view on my body - which is mine to make decisions about, btw, just like you can’t be forced to donate blood or an organ - is fucked up. YMMV of course.

448 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:30:58pm

re: #435 Stashed_The_Bill

Breitbart Reports on Zimmerman Verdict Riot Plan, Commenters Spew Torrents of Racism
Not hiding anything

Stashed_The_Bill Comments on Abortion, Lizards Spew Torrents of Hate, Name-Calling.
Not hiding anything

In what universe are the racist sewers of on-line Zimmerman trial commentary remotely comparable to the mild roasting you’ve gotten here for putting forth a heartlessly extreme position on abortion and failing to defend it with a single rational argument?

Ectopic pregnancy is still on your to-do list, if you’re interesting in getting this off the ground, as opposed to whining.

449 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:31:16pm

re: #435 Stashed_The_Bill

Does this bother you at all?

Amendment 10 by @JoseforTexas: Removes req for docs to inform patients of phony #abortion/breast cancer link. Tabled 18-12.

450 Stanley Sea  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:31:41pm
451 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:32:17pm
452 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:32:17pm

Done, done, on to the next one.

453 klys  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:32:38pm

re: #449 Varek Raith

Does this bother you at all?

I’m going to guess ….no. Some study somewhere said it was TRUE!!!!!1!!

454 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:33:03pm

re: #435 Stashed_The_Bill

Breitbart Reports on Zimmerman Verdict Riot Plan, Commenters Spew Torrents of Racism
Not hiding anything

Stashed_The_Bill Comments on Abortion, Lizards Spew Torrents of Hate, Name-Calling.
Not hiding anything

wow. just. wow.
how sad.

455 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:33:14pm

re: #453 klys

I’m going to guess ….no. Some study somewhere said it was TRUE!!!!!1!!

Yeah…

Karma: -178

Stashed_The_Bill

This user is blocked.

Oh noes!

456 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:33:22pm
457 klys  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:34:04pm

re: #455 Varek Raith

Yeah…

Oh noes!

Now I’m wondering what bill he stashed where.

The world may never know.

458 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:34:12pm

re: #456 Gus

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Don’t encourage them, it’s hard enough understanding these wimmin items.

459 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:34:26pm

re: #457 klys

Now I’m wondering what bill he stashed where.

The world may never know.

Ask Mr. Owl.

460 twisty  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:34:53pm

re: #446 engineer cat

can i wear big girl panties instead?

Freedom of choice applies also to underthings, frill level to be determined by wearer

461 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:35:07pm

re: #446 engineer cat

can i wear big girl panties instead?

Maxipads, nothing less, missy!
/

462 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:35:15pm

The next “pro-life” fucktard who tries to tell me that this bill in Texas is about anything other than making women second class citizens gets smacked:


They tabled an amendment MANDATING yearly inspections of the remaining abortion clinics to ensure compliance.

Tell me again how this is about women’s health?

463 BongCrodny  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:35:44pm

re: #432 Fear the Blah People

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Lovely.

Not exactly a shining example of efficient government.

464 klys  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:35:57pm

re: #462 Lidane

The next “pro-life” fucktard who tries to tell me that this bill in Texas is about anything other than making women second class citizens gets smacked:

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They tabled an amendment MANDATING yearly inspections of the remaining abortion clinics to ensure compliance.

Tell me again how this is about women’s health?

Well duh, once they’re all closed they don’t need any inspections to assume compliance.

/////

465 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:36:09pm

Image: owl-in-a-hat.jpg

466 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:36:52pm

If only Texas would examine dangerous workplaces like fertilizer plants or something.

467 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:36:53pm
468 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:36:59pm
469 klys  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:37:01pm

I just gotta say, for a crowd of haters you all are awesome.

470 Weet  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:37:23pm

Just FYI, a number of states have very ugly abortion laws. Take a look at yours here (nice easy chart.)

Abortion Law Chart by State

Chart is as of July 3rd, so not up to date for Wisconsin and NC.

471 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:37:34pm

re: #463 BongCrodny

Not exactly a shining example of efficient government.

Well, it is efficient. It’s efficient in exposing the true values and character and judgment of those in the fight.

472 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:37:37pm

re: #462 Lidane

And of course the inspectors are going to be RWNJs guaranteed to find or invent dozens of violations.

473 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:37:48pm

re: #469 klys

I just gotta say, for a crowd of haters you all are awesome.

Fuck off!

474 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:37:50pm

re: #465 Gus

Image: owl-in-a-hat.jpg

Snoo!

475 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:38:07pm

re: #469 klys

I just gotta say, for a crowd of haters you all are awesome.

we are, and we have pi!

476 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:38:23pm

re: #473 Varek Raith

Fuck off!

(and have a nice day)

477 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:38:24pm
478 Dave In Austin  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:38:34pm

re: #469 klys

I just gotta say, for a crowd of haters you all are awesome.

Trolls in the house…

479 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:38:47pm

re: #476 darthstar

(and have a nice day)

No, no nice day.

480 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:39:02pm

re: #473 Varek Raith

Fuck off!

Aw stick a rusty pitchfork in it sideways.

481 klys  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:39:22pm

re: #479 Varek Raith

No, no nice day.

Too late.

I HAVE THREE PRONG OUTLETS IN THE KITCHEN, BITCHES. FEAR ME.

482 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:40:05pm

re: #481 klys

Too late.

I HAVE THREE PRONG OUTLETS IN THE KITCHEN, BITCHES. FEAR ME.

Well, shit.

483 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:40:09pm

re: #470 Weet

Just FYI, a number of states have very ugly abortion laws. Take a look at yours here (nice easy chart.)

Abortion Law Chart by State

Chart is as of July 3rd, so not up to date for Wisconsin and NC.

well, hurrah for Kentucky!
I sorta knew it but nice to see it confirmed.

484 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:40:16pm
485 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:41:06pm

re: #481 klys

Too late.

I HAVE THREE PRONG OUTLETS IN THE KITCHEN, BITCHES. FEAR ME.

and she is NOT afraid to use them!!!!

486 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:41:10pm

re: #479 Varek Raith

No, no nice day.

“Dear God I hate you! I hope you die!!”

Youtube Video

487 klys  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:41:27pm

re: #481 klys

Too late.

I HAVE THREE PRONG OUTLETS IN THE KITCHEN, BITCHES. FEAR ME.

Although the electrician installed the ones with the safety shutters, so you can’t plug in just one prong.

It’s almost like he’s trying to tell me something…

488 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:41:35pm

re: #479 Varek Raith

No, no nice day.

Nice day I say! But not to you sir!
But you say nice day?
I say nice day sir, but not to you sir!

(sorry…just went all Shakespeare, but you know what they say about that. Shakespeare more than three times and you’re playing with it)

489 darthstar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:42:18pm

re: #486 Kragar

“Dear God I hate you! I hope you die!!”

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Now you just sound like my mother.

490 klys  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:42:20pm

re: #485 Backwoods_Sleuth

and she is NOT afraid to use them!!!!

At some point I will post a picture of the previous setup. It looks just like a fire hazard waiting to happen.

God, I’m turning into such an adult.

491 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:42:26pm
492 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:42:32pm

re: #487 klys

Although the electrician installed the ones with the safety shutters, so you can’t plug in just one prong.

It’s almost like he’s trying to tell me something…

Ribald comments occur to me.

493 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:42:40pm


The “pro-life” zealots are the ones in blue.

494 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:42:55pm

Snap your finger, snap your neck… /prong

495 klys  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:42:58pm

re: #492 GeneJockey

Ribald comments occur to me.

I’ve been sitting on a response along those lines to the initial “fuck off.”

>.>

496 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:43:09pm

re: #484 jaunte

Every new detail that comes out about this crap in TX just irks me more and more. No legislature has any business getting into any of this at all. Anyone capable of reproduction should have unfettered access to family planning/contraception as a matter of basic common sense.

497 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:44:16pm

kitteh break.
I’ve decided to rename them Thelma and Louise:
Thelma is a slut kitteh in training

498 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:44:26pm

re: #496 EPR-radar

Turns out we’re even more primitive down here than everyone thought.

499 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:44:40pm

re: #435 Stashed_The_Bill

Breitbart Reports on Zimmerman Verdict Riot Plan, Commenters Spew Torrents of Racism
Not hiding anything

Stashed_The_Bill Comments on Abortion, Lizards Spew Torrents of Hate, Name-Calling.
Not hiding anything

Oh, boo-fucking hoo. Cry me a river.

500 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:44:57pm
501 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:45:14pm

re: #490 klys

At some point I will post a picture of the previous setup. It looks just like a fire hazard waiting to happen.

God, I’m turning into such an adult.

Take yer time…no rush for turning into an adult.
I’m 61 and still working on that…

502 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:46:08pm
503 klys  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:46:21pm

re: #497 Backwoods_Sleuth

kitteh break.
I’ve decided to rename them Thelma and Louise:
Thelma is a slut kitteh in training

Spread them good and wide!

(This photo never gets old.)

504 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:46:36pm

re: #498 jaunte

Turns out we’re even more primitive down here than everyone thought.

and we LIKE it!
Lots!!!

505 GeneJockey  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:46:43pm

re: #497 Backwoods_Sleuth

kitteh break.
I’ve decided to rename them Thelma and Louise:
Thelma is a slut kitteh in training

Is she also an idiot you wish Louise would ditch in the first act?
//

506 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:46:50pm
507 Kragar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:48:40pm

re: #506 jaunte

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I thought only liberals bus in protestors…
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508 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:49:35pm

re: #505 GeneJockey

Is she also an idiot you wish Louise would ditch in the first act?
//

Well…she is an idiot, but she’s a delightful purring machine idiot.
Louise, OTOH, is a total freakazoid…

509 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:50:38pm

re: #507 Kragar

I thought only liberals bus in protestors…
///

ACORN!!!11!! derp derp hurr hurr

510 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:50:48pm

Fox News Warns Filibuster Reform Will Break The Senate, Ignores The Fact It’s Already Broken

And here I thought the Senate was working exactly as intended!
Silly me.

511 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:51:09pm
512 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:51:18pm

Tabled.

513 dragonath  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:52:15pm

re: #512 jaunte

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Tabled.

Logical failure.

514 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:52:28pm

OT, but I found something MAGICAL!

There is apparently something called the “Strategic Maple Syrup Reserve of the Federation of Quebec Maple Syrup Producers”

There is nothing more Canadian than the fact the “Strategic Maple Syrup Reserve” exists.

515 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:52:42pm

Dear Texas GOP,

Image: comeandtakeit.jpg

That is all.

No love,
Me

516 klys  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:52:55pm

re: #512 jaunte

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Tabled.

Everyone knows that women plan out when they want their next abortion to be, so they can make the proper sacrifices to Satan.

////////

517 jaunte  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:53:48pm

No sex education please, we’re Texans.

518 austin_blue  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:54:19pm

I came in to the house from work at six and wondered why She Who Must be Obeyed was laughing and weeping at her twitter feed of the current craziness in the Texas Senate (nb: These are the *smart* ones).

“They were letting handguns into the chambers, but not feminine hygiene products!”, she gasped.

Thinking quickly, I said “Whaa?”

“Kirk Watson finally got them to quit just now!”

Now Kirk is my State Senator. Used to be my mayor. He’s a pompous little popinjay, sometimes, but his heart is in the right place. I’ve taken a leak next to Kirk Watson. I’ve had beer and BBQ with Kirk Watson. But I had SWMBO immediately tweet the Kirkster (I don’t tweet. I’m a Luddite.) as soon as I understood the sheer idiocy of what was transpiring and tell him that he should have kept his fucking piehole shut and continued to let the world know at just what level of DERP that this state operates.

Two minutes later, he calls me on the phone (I give him money) and says “You don’t think the world knows this? I just wanted to bust their balls and make ‘em roll in the shitstorm.”

We both laughed. I told him to get some rest when this is over and enjoy his family.

Good times!

519 Single-handed sailor  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:54:30pm

re: #481 klys

Too late.

I HAVE THREE PRONG OUTLETS IN THE KITCHEN, BITCHES. FEAR ME.

ah, NEW Old house. We did that on moving in, too.

520 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:54:33pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

naw…if it was his wife, he’d just bid a fond adieu and welcome the new replacement (and much younger model) wife…just like in the Puritan days.

// Damaged goods.

521 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:54:36pm

re: #513 dragonath

Logical failure.

Par for the course for the Texas GOP.

522 Gus  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:55:43pm

#FamousTamponQuotes

523 klys  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:55:51pm

re: #519 Single-handed sailor

ah, NEW Old house. We did that on moving in, too.

If he’d done this (and a host of other things) on moving in when he bought the house back in 1996, I wouldn’t have had to deal with the contractors and we would have had AC for the most recent heat wave.

/sulk

On the bright side, there are now ceiling fans in the master and guest bedrooms.

524 Lidane  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:56:44pm

re: #518 austin_blue

Now Kirk is my State Senator. Used to be my mayor. He’s a pompous little popinjay, sometimes, but his heart is in the right place. I’ve taken a leak next to Kirk Watson. I’ve had beer and BBQ with Kirk Watson. But I had SWMBO immediately tweet the Kirkster (I don’t tweet. I’m a Luddite.) as soon as I understood the sheer idiocy of what was transpiring and tell him that he should have kept his fucking piehole shut and continued to let the world know at just what level of DERP that this state operates.

Two minutes later, he calls me on the phone (I give him money) and says “You don’t think the world knows this? I just wanted to bust their balls and make ‘em roll in the shitstorm.”

We both laughed. I told him to get some rest when this is over and enjoy his family.

Good times!

And that is why I like Kirk Watson. Heh.

525 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 6:58:58pm

Night Lizards. Meat world responsibilities intrude. May The Deity of YOUR choice smile down upon you

526 austin_blue  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 7:01:49pm

re: #525 Bubblehead II

Night Lizards. Meat world responsibilities, May The Deity of YOUR

Oh, my Dog! Bubblehead has been abducted by aliens!

527 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 7:12:06pm

re: #152 A Mom Anon

Would it EVER occur to these fucking news channels to actually talk to the spokesperson for the Texas State Police and ask them what they confiscated, and if it can be confirmed that it was the pro-choice side that did it? And, wouldn’t that be considered a public health violation involving a ticket or possible arrest, or at least questioning?

That would require committing an act of journalism, which is probably illegal in TX.

Even if journalism remains legal, it is much easier to obligingly quote RWNJ talking points than it is to investigate anything.

528 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 7:22:59pm

re: #271 Stashed_The_Bill

Sounds an awful lot like hate. I thought Charles didn’t allow haters.

Correctly identifying an ignorant loser such as yourself is not hate.

529 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 7:29:58pm

re: #289 Stashed_The_Bill

That innocent baby did nothing to deserve to die and killing that baby won’t do the girl justice.

My answer no abortion ever, under any circumstance. It is my opinion that abortion is intrinsically evil and completely void of any good.

You are a perfect example of my definition of an ideologue: A person who cares not at all about being good but entirely about being right.

From my point of view the only difference between you and other fanatics such as the Bolsheviks or the Taliban are aesthetic.

530 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 7:39:41pm

re: #529 Romantic Heretic


You are fencing with a phantasm, a will—the-wisp, a memory. Y’know—parrot. Fjords.

531 JeffFX  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 7:55:01pm

re: #89 Vicious Babushka

532 sagehen  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 7:58:26pm

re: #343 engineer cat

being told by an anti-abortion activist how many abortions there had been since roe vs wade, i asked how many abortions there had been before roe vs wade

they hadn’t thought to consider that

I read something awhile ago that I don’t have the google-fu to find again… some researcher went to the vital stats records and found that before and after Roe v Wade, birth rates changed only marginally. Nowhere near a million a year.

The mortality rate of women of reproductive age, especially of unspecified infections or hemorrhages… that went down drastically.

He ended up concluding that the abortion rates before and after legalization were about the same. Just much safer after.

533 sagehen  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 8:10:43pm

re: #441 klys

I remain unclear if it is someone at the station called with the names and the intern said “Oh yeah, those are right” or the the station called with the correct names and the intern said “Oh no, the names were xxxx.”

Either way this is a giant mess and I think an intern is very much not ever getting a recommendation for that.

“no recommendation” isn’t enough.

The intern’s name needs to be released in a story about the incident, forever to be googleable and bingable to any future potential employers.

534 chadu  Fri, Jul 12, 2013 9:09:47pm

Having not read the post/comments yet, was pissed enough to make a page about Wonder Woman.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Check it out.


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