Jim Hoft’s Latest Sick Crusade: Attack NGOs Receiving Federal Money to Shelter Immigrant Kids

Caring for kids is an Obama plot!!11ty!!

Apparently the latest thing over Jim Hoft’s The Gateway Pundit blog is to pinpoint and attack any NGO that receives federal grants to care for undocumented immigrant children.

A week ago. Hoft’s “guest blogger” Kristinn Taylor torpedoed a shelter proposed by BCFS, a charitable organization based in San Antonio. Taylor declared, falsely, that BCFS had received a $50 million federal grant to turn a rundown hotel into a “luxury resort” for immigrant children.

BCFS has since abandoned the project in Weslaco, Texas.

Now, Hoft’s latest target is Southwest Key Programs of Austin, which like BCFS, has received federal grants for shelters and programs benefiting children coming over the border with Mexico.

While Hoft himself offered little comment, he posted in its entirety a story by KEYE-TV of San Antonio to let visitors to his site rant about it.

Southwest Key Programs has received nearly $485 million in federal grants (taggs.hhs.gov) since 2004, but to read the comments, you’d swear these people think it’s all a plot by the Democrats and President Barack Obama to win elections.

Idiots don’t seem to realize children can’t vote.

Some sample comments, to give you the flavor.

They are PROFITING from child trafficking! AT OUR EXPENSE!!!

No words, yes, me, as all here know, I have more than my share of comments but

I am at a complete loss for words. Well, one word keeps coming to mind, IMPEACH.

But, I do have to say, Obama knew about this years ago but he didn’t know About Our Veterans and their mistreatment at the VA?

Obama picks and chooses what is important to them, selfishly and maliciously.

“Charities” getting fat off the American taxpayer. This is run by a husband and wife. They spend over $1 million a year lobbying. Sanchez made $278,000 in 2012 ‘caring for the children’. I’m sure he makes much more now with all that extra money Obama is throwing at him.

Arizona 11 electoral votes, Texas 32 electoral votes and Georgia 16 electoral votes. The blueprint for the Democrats to try and flip three solid Republican states. The Democrats are importing lice infested dead beats to these states to flip them by 2016, or by 2020 at the latest.

My dad told me before he died that his fight was overseas during WWII, and my fight would be here at home.

They rant and rave about the government awarding grants to agencies to deal with the immigrant children, but the only alternative they offer is to deport the kids. Who feeds and shelters the children in the meantime?

{crickets}

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423 comments

1 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 6:10:28am

Ooh! Promoted — with a better headline. Thx!

2 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 6:19:34am

Outrage.

3 Charles Johnson  Jul 22, 2014 6:21:22am

Great post! I really like the idea of staying on Hoft and his xenophobic insanity, because his BS is getting heavily promoted by right wing media, and he’s causing serious harm to real people.

I wonder if Fox News was embarrassed enough by having to retract that $50M resort lie that they’ll think twice about pushing another Hoft fable? (Probably not.)

4 Charles Johnson  Jul 22, 2014 6:22:29am

Sergey also has a great Page that I’ll be promoting a bit later.

5 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jul 22, 2014 6:25:42am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Great post! I really like the idea of staying on Hoft and his xenophobic insanity, because his BS is getting heavily promoted by right wing media, and he’s causing serious harm to real people.

I wonder if Fox News was embarrassed enough by having to retract that $50M resort lie that they’ll think twice about pushing another Hoft fable? (Probably not.)

Oh, I missed it that Fox offered a retraction! Did they really?!?!

6 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 6:25:51am

re: #1 wheat-dogghazi

You’re on a roll! Kudos. The right wing shows so much compassion for kids and those who are unable to care for themselves, that they are trying to outdo each other for who can have the most outrageous response to NGOs (including charitable and religious groups) that are working to safely address safely house these people until they are fully handled and processed by DHS.

Apparently right wingers like Hoft think that we should just turn out backs on these kids and send them packing, all while complaining about the cost to do exactly what they want (which is to put them on planes to their country of origin or kick them back over the border to Mexico).

7 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 6:26:00am

A meme that I keep seeing over and over and over again is that there is a direct link between illegal immigration and veterans.

OBAMA IS TAKIN AWAY TEH MONEYS FROM ARE BRAVE VETERANS AN GIVIN IT TO TEH ILLEGALS!!!!!!

Granted the VA is fucked up but nothing is being taken away from veterans as opposed to any other federal program.

I wonder how wingnuts would feel if it was revealed that the money was coming out of corporate subsidies.

8 Egregious Philbin  Jul 22, 2014 6:26:06am

What a sick and petty little man.

9 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 6:27:19am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I checked his site today to see if they had said anything about the the lack of apologies coming their way. Nothing, but I did find the post about Southwest Key Programs.

Note that Hoft copied the entire article from KEYE-TV. Talk about lazy blogging.

10 Charles Johnson  Jul 22, 2014 6:32:49am

re: #5 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP

Oh, I missed it that Fox offered a retraction! Did they really?!?!

Sort of a correction - retraction might be overstating it. And they still lied while doing it.

11 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 22, 2014 6:33:02am

I can’t think of anything that should be more explicitly ‘Christian’ than taking care of kids. That christ-warriors like Hoft are angry that children are being cared for is a sign of severe cognitive dissonance, not to mention unbelievable assholery.

12 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 6:34:49am

re: #11 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I can’t think of anything that should be more explicitly ‘Christian’ than taking care of kids. That christ-warriors like Hoft are angry that children are being cared for is a sign of severe cognitive dissonance, not to mention unbelievable assholery.

Seriously. How the hell do you with a straight face call yourself a Christian and get upset that kids are being helped. But then again, I’m not a blithering asshole like Jim Hoft spending my days with my head up my ass.

13 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 6:35:54am

Remember when “faith-based initiatives” were all the rage with conservatives?

But that was another breed of conservatives, ones who had a bit of a rational streak to them.

Now the only sort of FBI’s these guys can get into are ones that promote slut-shaming and praying the gay away.

14 Charles Johnson  Jul 22, 2014 6:36:03am
15 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 6:36:06am

FNC really has no shame. Ailes is just another Nixon era relic that gets his kicks from feeding off the bitterness and resentments of others. Murdoch doesn’t care as long as he gets another buck. The truth be damned.

16 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jul 22, 2014 6:38:01am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Sort of a correction - retraction might be overstating it. And they still lied while doing it.

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Thanks, Charles. I’ve been traveling and out of the loop on some of the news. Fox News, despicable as they ever were.

17 Charles Johnson  Jul 22, 2014 6:38:15am

Idiot stalker says what?

18 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 6:39:38am

I found this one particular portion of one of the comments interesting…

Obama picks and chooses what is important to them, selfishly and maliciously.

And Hoft and all the wingnuts pick and choose what they are going to cry about, too many times with no facts or actual intelligence involved.

19 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 6:42:52am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

It’s not the job of a modern-day governor to patrol an international border with automatic weapons.

20 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 6:43:12am

re: #7 Pie-onist Overlord

A meme that I keep seeing over and over and over again is that there is a direct link between illegal immigration and veterans.

OBAMA IS TAKIN AWAY TEH MONEYS FROM ARE BRAVE VETERANS AN GIVIN IT TO TEH ILLEGALS!!!!!!

Granted the VA is fucked up but nothing is being taken away from veterans as opposed to any other federal program.

I wonder how wingnuts would feel if it was revealed that the money was coming out of corporate subsidies.

And the VA problems have been historic…so how is it all Obama’s fault? I think there has been a few Republicans involved in the mess (stated very dryly).

21 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 6:44:39am

re: #13 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yeah, and those faith based initiatives include BCFS, the group behind the Weslaco effort to house those illegal immigrants.

22 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 6:44:44am

re: #11 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I can’t think of anything that should be more explicitly ‘Christian’ than taking care of kids. That christ-warriors like Hoft are angry that children are being cared for is a sign of severe cognitive dissonance, not to mention unbelievable assholery.

I think that falls under one of those many Bible rewrites. Hoft and others are still busy rewriting.

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23 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 6:48:19am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

For a supposed crisis that has been going on for years, Perry is only taking action now, right at a point in time when the crisis appears to not only be ebbing from a numerical standpoint (the number of kids crossing the border illegally is dropping) but right before the midterm elections and just as the race for the White House in 2016 is beginning to take shape. He knows he has to do something dramatic to garner attention when he’s polling in the low single digits among GOP pretenders/contenders for the nomination. So, making a big production about sending Guardsmen to the border is his attempt to break out of the doldrums.

He’s doing it for the optics and for pressing his position with an eye towards 2016 and not for a human rights crisis with kids trying to cross the border to get to a better life here.

24 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 6:49:53am

re: #11 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I can’t think of anything that should be more explicitly ‘Christian’ than taking care of kids. That christ-warriors like Hoft are angry that children are being cared for is a sign of severe cognitive dissonance, not to mention unbelievable assholery.

It’s OK if they’re white kids.

25 thedopefishlives  Jul 22, 2014 6:55:58am

re: #12 HappyWarrior

Seriously. How the hell do you with a straight face call yourself a Christian and get upset that kids are being helped. But then again, I’m not a blithering asshole like Jim Hoft spending my days with my head up my ass.

You shouldn’t, but people have been calling themselves Christians just to look good since, well, shortly after Christ died. It’s stupid and it’s my major pet peeve, but I’m just one guy. Check this: According to a recent poll (I’d have to look to find the link; this is just from a sermon I heard two weeks ago), 83% of Americans self-identify as Christians. Only 7% actually believe the most basic tenets of Christianity. Chew on that for a minute when these self-described “Christians” go off on xenophobic, racist, and/or sexist rants.

26 ComradeDread  Jul 22, 2014 6:56:32am
Who feeds and shelters the children in the meantime?

No one because I’m pretty sure they’d be in favor of shooting the kids the second they set foot into America. They are ‘soldiers’ servicing an ‘invasion’, after all.

This is yet one more thing to add to the tally of reasons I will use to refute any of the nonsense that America is a Christian nation. Christ would be appalled.

27 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 6:57:52am

The Refugee Council USA has a page of links about Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC). The information may be useful in dealing with anti-immigration loons.

rcusa.org

28 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 6:58:49am

re: #25 thedopefishlives

You shouldn’t, but people have been calling themselves Christians just to look good since, well, shortly after Christ died. It’s stupid and it’s my major pet peeve, but I’m just one guy. Check this: According to a recent poll (I’d have to look to find the link; this is just from a sermon I heard two weeks ago), 83% of Americans self-identify as Christians. Only 7% actually believe the most basic tenets of Christianity. Chew on that for a minute when these self-described “Christians” go off on xenophobic, racist, and/or sexist rants.

Sadly, I think many use their claims to being Christians as their Pocket Jesus, a get out of sin/hell free card just from passing go.

29 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 6:59:03am

re: #13 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Remember when “faith-based initiatives” were all the rage with conservatives?

But that was another breed of conservatives, ones who had a bit of a rational streak to them.

Now the only sort of FBI’s these guys can get into are ones that promote slut-shaming and praying the gay away.

“Faith-based initiatives” was simply a variant of “We’re giving grants! To our own first though.”

30 Charles Johnson  Jul 22, 2014 6:59:43am

I saw that moronic tweet in Tweetbot, and had to scratch my head - he’s accusing me of racism? Wut?

Then I realized it was because of the caption, “Come at me, brown kids!”

This is one of the weirdest things wingnuts do - ignore all context and pretend just using a term like “brown kids” makes you a racist. Their thinking is all messed up; it’s bullshit and they know it.

31 thedopefishlives  Jul 22, 2014 7:00:16am

re: #28 ObserverArt

Sadly, I think many use their claims to being Christians as their Pocket Jesus, a get out of sin/hell free card just from passing go.

The Christian community calls it “fire insurance”.

32 Timothy Watson  Jul 22, 2014 7:00:46am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

I saw that moronic tweet in Tweetbot, and had to scratch my head - he’s accusing me of racism? Wut?

Then I realized it was because of the caption, “Come at me, brown kids!”

This is one of the weirdest things wingnuts do - ignore all context and pretend just using a term like “brown kids” makes you a racist. Their thinking is all messed up; it’s bullshit and they know it.

Projection, not just a river in Egypt.

33 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 7:04:00am

re: #26 ComradeDread

No one because I’m pretty sure they’d be in favor of shooting the kids the second they set foot into America. They are ‘soldiers’ servicing an ‘invasion’, after all.

This is yet one more thing to add to the tally of reasons I will use to refute any of the nonsense that America is a Christian nation. Christ would be appalled.

Sound bite rather than seriously thought out. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t be willing to shoot the children themselves (and especially not have it on tape.) And if they expect some faceless National Guardsman to do it willingly and then have to live with doing it than I am even angrier about their hypocrisy and hyperbole.

34 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 7:04:18am
35 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 7:11:57am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Again, that’s because there’s a difference between Ronald WIlson Reagan, the actual human being who served as President of the United States, and Saint Ronaldus Magnus, Conservative Messiah, whom the wingnuts fetishize and bow down to.

Reality vs. Myth.

36 alpuz  Jul 22, 2014 7:14:55am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

This is one of the weirdest things wingnuts do - ignore all context and pretend just using a term like “brown kids” makes you a racist. Their thinking is all messed up; it’s bullshit and they know it.

Yep. They either ignore it, or twist it into a simmering stew of lies.

37 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 7:15:10am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

.@Lawrence: Republicans love to play the “What would Reagan do” game, but they never seem to remember what Reagan actually did.

Once one is deified reality gets lost and beatitude takes over.

38 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 7:15:18am

re: #35 Dr Lizardo

Again, that’s because there’s a difference between Ronald WIlson Reagan, the actual human being who served as President of the United States, and Saint Ronaldus Magnus, Conservative Messiah, whom the wingnuts fetishize and bow down to.

Reality vs. Myth.

And those who have sort of followed in his footsteps (Dole, McCain) didn’t get as far and then sort of went wackaloon as their chances for their own conservative canonization went by the wayside.

Not to mention some of the outright disrespect the retired Dole got from the conservatives in Congress. But disrespect seems to be part of the conservative default right now.

39 thedopefishlives  Jul 22, 2014 7:15:57am

re: #38 Feline Fearless Leader

And those who have sort of followed in his footsteps (Dole, McCain) didn’t get as far and then sort of went wackaloon as their chances for their own conservative canonization went by the wayside.

Not to mention some of the outright disrespect the retired Dole got from the conservatives in Congress. But disrespect seems to be part of the conservative default right now.

They eat the ones that don’t quite make it.

40 Mike Lamb  Jul 22, 2014 7:17:45am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Idiot stalker says what?

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Photo ops are Perry’s job? I thought he was a governor, not a Ford model…

41 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 7:18:00am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

I saw that moronic tweet in Tweetbot, and had to scratch my head - he’s accusing me of racism? Wut?

Then I realized it was because of the caption, “Come at me, brown kids!”

This is one of the weirdest things wingnuts do - ignore all context and pretend just using a term like “brown kids” makes you a racist. Their thinking is all messed up; it’s bullshit and they know it.

Check out responses here.

42 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 7:19:50am

I’m reading a 2012 report by the Women’s Refugee Commission. Here’s an excerpt:

16-year-old boy forced from school by gangs

Mario,* age 16, told us the following story: He was
a student in San Pedro Sula, Honduras, one of the
most violent cities in the world. He said he had no
choice but to stay home from school after he was targeted
for recruitment by one of the gangs that dominate
many state-run schools in Honduras. When he
told the gang members, “No, I’m good,” they left him
alone for a little while. Then one girl started saying
he had to join and incited other gang members who
threatened physical violence. Because it was no longer
safe enough to go to school in his home town
and he could not afford private school in Honduras,
he came to the U.S., where he hoped he would have
the opportunity to work and study.
Individual interview at Baptist Child and Family
Services Lackland Air Force Base surge center.

* Names have been changed throughout the
report to protect the identities of the children.

That’s BCFS, the same agency Kristinn Taylor targeted.

43 Teukka  Jul 22, 2014 7:21:44am

3 years ago today.
Can I have a moment of silence?

44 Mike Lamb  Jul 22, 2014 7:22:09am

I notice these idiots aren’t fuming about Catholic charities, for example, getting “fat” on the tax payer dime.

My surprise face, etc.

45 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 7:22:51am

re: #40 Mike Lamb

Photo ops are Perry’s job? I thought he was a governor, not a Ford model…

Well, governors aren’t supposed to be clowns either, but he sure has that down.

46 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 7:30:51am
47 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 7:31:54am

re: #23 lawhawk

He’s doing it for the optics and for pressing his position with an eye towards 2016 and not for a human rights crisis with kids trying to cross the border to get to a better life here.

and so that supporters can praise him for acting all “presidential”.

48 Joanne  Jul 22, 2014 7:34:35am

re: #6 lawhawk

It goes deeper than just kids coming across the border. It’s poor (read: minority) Americans, unemployed (lazy minorities) Americans, elderly (didn’t save enough, Loser!) Americans.

It’s the underlying Libertarian construct if government shouldn’t do anything, commingled with minority hatred.

49 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 22, 2014 7:35:26am

re: #41 Gus

Check out responses here.

Love how one of the responders (@jbgoldcanyon) has OBL with a #UniteBlue logo. Which US political party/public policy/religion most closely represent that of OBL?

50 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 7:35:28am
51 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 7:36:17am

Russian propagandist Graham Phillips arrived in Slavyansk in the hope of digging up some dirt on the Ukrainian army.

Unfortunately for him the locals he met would have none of this.

Youtube Video

52 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 7:36:52am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

I saw that moronic tweet in Tweetbot, and had to scratch my head - he’s accusing me of racism? Wut?

Then I realized it was because of the caption, “Come at me, brown kids!”

This is one of the weirdest things wingnuts do - ignore all context and pretend just using a term like “brown kids” makes you a racist. Their thinking is all messed up; it’s bullshit and they know it.

HURR HURR TEH LIBRULS IS TEH REAL RACISTS, A LIBRUL JUST MADE A MEME WITH “BROWN KIDS”!!!!!!! THIS PRUVEZ NO CONSERVATIVE CAN EVER BE TEH RACISTS!!!!!!!

53 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 7:40:03am

It’s kind of like how they want to pat themselves on the back for the 1964 Civil Rights Act which I do concede wouldn’t have passed with out the GOP but at the same time, their party went out and nominated someone who voted against that law the same year LBJ signed it into law. And then there’s the Dixiecrats. THEY WERE DEMOCRATS. Yes, they were and then they started voting Republican when Nixon’s guys realized there was a market full of pissed off white Southerners who could not stand that the national Democratic party was becoming more liberal on civil rights. They also think they can just throw out candidates like Cruz and Rubio and it will immunize them against any charges of racism ignoring the fact that those guys have their own bigotries.

54 Aqua Obama  Jul 22, 2014 7:42:34am

WASHINGTON WASHINGTON

SIX FOOT EIGHT WEIGHS A FUCKING TON

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55 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 7:42:41am

re: #46 Gus

Yeah, a Bush I appointee and a Bush II appointee both found in Halbig v. Burwell that those living in states where the GOP refused to implement their own exchanges are not eligible for subsidies because the law as written states that appears to limit the subsidies to “… an Exchange established by the State.”

The problem with that extremely narrow reading is that everywhere else in the ACA enabling language, it talks about extending universal access to health insurance and the Supreme Court has previously ruled that “a reviewing court should not confine itself to examining a particular statutory provision in isolation”. Construing the words as narrowly as these judges have done would ignore the entirety and purpose of the law as a whole. In fact, there’s a separate provision in the ACA that indicates that a state that doesn’t establish its own exchange and opts for the federal exchange will have deemed to have established an exchange. In other words, even those states that have opted for the federal exchange have actually created the exchange, but the feds are the ones managing it.

This decision should be overturned on appeal, but with GOPers getting lucky on other provisions, the outcome shouldn’t be taken as assured.

Note too that any effort to fix this drafting error will get bogged down and never get out of the House, so we’re stuck with this until the Supreme Court eventually rules. And there are other cases pending on different aspects of the ACA.

If the GOP gets their wish, Halbig would eliminate the subsidies for residents of the 34 states that refused to create their own exchanges.

The text of the decision is here:
t.co

56 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 7:43:09am

Meanwhile in Ukraine,

15:26:

Ukrainian government troops have retaken the town of Popasna in Luhansk region, writes Donbas battalion commander Semen Semenchenko on his Facebook page (in Russian).

bbc.com

57 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 7:43:11am

re: #53 HappyWarrior

It’s kind of like how they want to pat themselves on the back for the 1964 Civil Rights Act which I do concede wouldn’t have passed with out the GOP but at the same time, their party went out and nominated someone who voted against that law the same year LBJ signed it into law. And then there’s the Dixiecrats. THEY WERE DEMOCRATS. Yes, they were and then they started voting Republican when Nixon’s guys realized there was a market full of pissed off white Southerners who could not stand that the national Democratic party was becoming more liberal on civil rights. They also think they can just throw out candidates like Cruz and Rubio and it will immunize them against any charges of racism ignoring the fact that those guys have their own bigotries.

HURR HURR LBJ SAID TEH N WORD IT’S TRUE!!!! IT’S IN A BOOK U CAN LOOK IT UP!!!!! HE SAID TEH N WORDS WILL BE VOTIN DEMOCRAT FOR 200 YEARS!!!!! THIS PRUVEZ ALL RACISTS IS TEH DEMOCRATS & NO CONSERVATIVE CAN BE A RACIST EVER!!!!!!

58 blueraven  Jul 22, 2014 7:43:28am

re: #46 Gus

This was a three judge panel and will now go to the full appeals court. Then probably on to the SCOTUS.

sucks.

59 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 7:44:50am

re: #57 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR LBJ SAID TEH N WORD IT’S TRUE!!!! IT’S IN A BOOK U CAN LOOK IT UP!!!!! HE SAID TEH N WORDS WILL BE VOTIN DEMOCRAT FOR 200 YEARS!!!!! THIS PRUVEZ ALL RACISTS IS TEH DEMOCRATS & NO CONSERVATIVE CAN BE A RACIST EVER!!!!!!

Heh yep. And they’ll point out Robert Byrd while ignoring the fact that Jesse Helms was more of a representative of Republican ideology than Byrd was for the Democrats.

60 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 7:46:32am

This is a typical Buk, consisting of 3 parts:

According to the Ukraine@War analysis, referenced earlier (through Avva’s posting), the tracks on the sat. photo of the field support presence only of 1 vehicle. So apparently it was a stand-alone mode after all.

61 Aqua Obama  Jul 22, 2014 7:46:48am

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Heh yep. And they’ll point out Robert Byrd while ignoring the fact that Jesse Helms was more of a representative of Republican ideology than Byrd was for the Democrats.

You must read this, then:

Conservatives And Jesse Helms

62 thedopefishlives  Jul 22, 2014 7:48:57am

re: #60 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

This is a typical Buk, consisting of 3 parts:

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According to the Ukraine@War analysis, referenced earlier (through Avva’s posting), the tracks on the sat. photo of the field support presence only of 1 vehicle. So apparently it was a stand-alone mode after all.

And if it doesn’t have altitude data, or if the altitude data is poorly presented, it’s likely the operators didn’t have a clue what they were shooting at.

63 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 7:49:12am

re: #61 Aqua Obama

You must read this, then:

Conservatives And Jesse Helms

He honestly I think was a worse person than Strom Thurmond.

64 blueraven  Jul 22, 2014 7:53:34am

Wow, millions to lose subsidies and render health insurance unaffordable if this 3 judge appeals court panel decision holds.

That will help the republicans! ///

65 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 7:54:42am

re: #60 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

You can see how the tracks looked like on this photo, look closely at the bottom half. By sheer coincidence Google Earth was updated with July 20 sat. imagery, and it was not a moment too late - in some other relevant areas a tractor was already plowing over the field.

66 Mattand  Jul 22, 2014 7:55:00am

In a way, I can’t really blame The Stupidest Man on the Internet for going after another group like this. He made up an utter bullshit story and got what he wanted.

It’s his nature; he can’t help himself. It’s like watching a rabid animal constantly maul children until people get it under control.

The only people standing up to him are Charles and other bloggers, in addition to Colbert and Stewart.

Our vaunted liberal mainstream press? Nowhere to be found.

t’s like an episode of South Park where Cartman gets away with one of his schemes because no one else cares.

Days like this, where conservatives are openly attacking their own kind (religious groups, in the case) for helping children? These are the days where I wonder if some kind of civil war is coming again.

There’s a large part of our country that’s become openly and unapologetically unhinged because a black guy is running the country. Their representatives in Congress have essentially said we’d rather wreck the US than work with this guy.

I’m really starting to lose patience with these people.

67 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 7:55:24am

re: #64 blueraven

Wow, millions to lose subsidies and render health insurance unaffordable if this 3 judge appeals court panel decision holds.

That will help the republicans! ///

The party of dicks strikes again but you just watch, these people having their subsidies lost and their insurance made unaffordable will be Obama’s fault because everything is Obama’s fault.

68 CuriousLurker  Jul 22, 2014 7:56:15am

OT Drive-by: Behold, the slippery slope we were warned about post-9/11. I don’t know if this is on anyone’s radar yet. If not, there’s sure to be much outrage & gnashing of teeth when it sinks in what broad powers this gives law enforcement. There’s a link to the judge’s explanation of his opinion (23 pages worth) at the source. Added emphasis is mine:

Your Gmail account is fair game for cops or feds, says US judge

At the heart of the case is an investigation in which the FBI had probable cause to believe that its target had been using an email account to engage in criminal activity and that emails and other information in his Google account would provide evidence of his crimes.

The search warrant directs Google to cough up everything associated with the email account, including all emails, whether they were sent, received, or just stored as drafts.

It also went after everything in the target’s address book.

The warrant contained no search protocol.

Nor did it put any limits on how much time the government has to review whatever information Google discloses or require the government to destruct that material.

In other words, the sweeping nature of the warrant in this case is similar to other recent cases in which judges denied warrants because they gave the government access to too many emails that weren’t relevant to the crimes under investigation. […]

If someone has time to Page this, please feel free to do so. No need to credit me—I’m just passing it along.

69 Romantic Heretic  Jul 22, 2014 7:58:10am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

I saw that moronic tweet in Tweetbot, and had to scratch my head - he’s accusing me of racism? Wut?

Then I realized it was because of the caption, “Come at me, brown kids!”

This is one of the weirdest things wingnuts do - ignore all context and pretend just using a term like “brown kids” makes you a racist. Their thinking is all messed up; it’s bullshit and they know it.

Well, they are crackheads after all, and after living with several over the years I know how irrational and violent their behaviour is.

Crackheads is now my go-to term for wingnuts. Like Hoft and all the others they are stoned out their gourds on fear, anger and hate.

70 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 7:58:25am

hey, lawhawk…what’s going on over there?

71 Skip Intro  Jul 22, 2014 8:00:46am

re: #64 blueraven

Wow, millions to lose subsidies and render health insurance unaffordable if this 3 judge appeals court panel decision holds.

That will help the republicans! ///

I think you may be misunderestimating the Republican ability to shoot themselves in the balls then say “That feels good. May I have another”.

72 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 8:01:27am

re: #68 CuriousLurker

This sounds like the obvious initial result of people moving their correspondence into the “cloud”. A search warrant isn’t going to find letters in desk drawers anymore. And there won’t be Word docs and such on the hard drive of the home computer. So now the next step is to claim broad access to any external locations where a suspect could possibly store messages and other data.

73 blueraven  Jul 22, 2014 8:01:43am

re: #67 HappyWarrior

The party of dicks strikes again but you just watch, these people having their subsidies lost and their insurance made unaffordable will be Obama’s fault because everything is Obama’s fault.

I don’t think so. It was the opponents who brought this ridiculous legal challenge. One of many, in an attempt to deny people healthcare.

A lot of people that now have affordable health insurance are republicans. They will not like this either. The republicans are cutting off their nose to spite their face.

74 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 8:02:15am
75 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 8:03:06am

re: #73 blueraven

I don’t think so. It was the opponents who brought this ridiculous legal challenge. One of many, in an attempt to deny people healthcare.

A lot of people that now have affordable health insurance are republicans. They will not like this either. The republicans are cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Oh, I am not saying that the people losing their insurance will blame Obama but the GOP certainly will. Why? Because the fuckers have no shame.

76 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 8:03:59am

I couldn’t even begin to express my anger at these bigoted assholes without using language that would get me banned. I am all out of patience or fucks to give for anyone who still supports and/or votes for these pricks, or who excuses the things that people like Hoft are saying.

They are actively demonizing unaccompanied, unarmed children. What. The. FUCK. Anyone who does this and then has the gall to call themselves Christian can go DIAF.

77 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 8:04:52am

This map shows current flights - and you can see how airlines are now shifting away from the Ukraine following the shootdown. Delta is grounding flights to/from TLV, but other airlines haven’t followed suit.

78 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 8:05:38am

re: #77 lawhawk

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This map shows current flights - and you can see how airlines are now shifting away from the Ukraine following the shootdown. Delta is grounding flights to/from TLV, but other airlines haven’t followed suit.

FUCK.

79 blueraven  Jul 22, 2014 8:05:40am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

Oh, I am not saying that the people losing their insurance will blame Obama but the GOP certainly will. Why? Because the fuckers have no shame.

It is a pyrrhic victory and hopefully a short-lived one.

80 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 8:05:48am

re: #77 lawhawk

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This map shows current flights - and you can see how airlines are now shifting away from the Ukraine following the shootdown. Delta is grounding flights to/from TLV, but other airlines haven’t followed suit.

US Airways and United as well.

81 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 8:06:11am

I’m planning a trip to Israel next year.

82 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 8:06:58am

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

No idea. Someone swapped out the regular US flags flying on the Brooklyn Bridge with whited-out flags. NYPD is investigating (the key question is how they got to the top of the towers, because that’s a restricted area and you’re not supposed to be able to get on them or the suspender cables).

83 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 8:07:13am

re: #66 Mattand

What gets me is these two agencies have been receiving federal grants since 2000 (BCFS) and 2004 (Southwest Key), during Republican administrations. Now, all of a sudden, RWNJs have woken up to the fact these agencies are now receiving federal grants while a black guy is in the White House and they go apeshit.

Granted, under the Obama administration the size of the grants has increased, but so has the need for UAC (unaccompanied children) services. In 2007, there were about 7,300 UACs under federal or NGO care. In 2012, a little more than 10,000. Now there are between 50,000 and 60,000. That’s a lot of kids to clothe, feed, shelter, counsel, repatriate or resettle, and educate. Those kind of services don’t come cheap.

84 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 8:07:20am

re: #44 Mike Lamb

I notice these idiots aren’t fuming about Catholic charities, for example, getting “fat” on the tax payer dime.

My surprise face, etc.

Freep has been for a couple days. They’re especially ticked at Boston’s Cardinal O’Malley, who has favored sheltering them in Boston, and who led a cross-the-border-wire communion service.

85 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 8:09:02am

re: #79 blueraven

It is a pyrrhic victory and hopefully a short-lived one.

Definitely. I look forward to the GOP explaining to people who have seen their insurance rates drop or have gained insurance due to ACA being told why they had to lose it. The GOP really stands for nothing at this point. Whole party is just a pathetic bunch of dicks at this point.

86 Aqua Obama  Jul 22, 2014 8:09:41am

Hey, Sergey, since you’re around these parts again, can you tell me what THIS is supposed to be? What are they saying?

Youtube Video

87 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 8:09:58am

re: #82 lawhawk

No idea. Someone swapped out the regular US flags flying on the Brooklyn Bridge with whited-out flags. NYPD is investigating (the key question is how they got to the top of the towers, because that’s a restricted area and you’re not supposed to be able to get on them or the suspender cables).

I also wondered how they got up there.

88 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 8:10:52am
89 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 8:10:59am
16:06:EU foreign ministers have taken “unanimous” and “forceful” decisions on enhanced sanctions against Russia and Russian interests over Ukraine, Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans says, emerging from the meeting in Brussels. More details as we get them.

bbc.com

We shall see what Dutch FM Timmermans meant soon, I gather.

90 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 8:12:07am

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

I also wondered how they got up there.

Kicker is if they could get up there with white flags they could have gotten up there with more destructive materials.

Which should have a lot of people concerned.

91 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 8:12:38am

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Somebody give Ted Cruz a parting gift and send him back to Canada.

92 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 8:13:29am

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chicos, if you see this man, stay away! Muy malo!

93 Romantic Heretic  Jul 22, 2014 8:14:05am

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

I also wondered how they got up there.

[Embedded content]

It’s probably some wingnuts making a statement about how America has ‘surrendered to Communism/Sharia/Fascism.’

94 Stanley Sea  Jul 22, 2014 8:14:24am

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

What NGO or religious org is supplying them?

Get ‘em Hofty.

95 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 8:14:31am

Another #UniteBlue unfollowed.

96 Romantic Heretic  Jul 22, 2014 8:14:49am

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

Somebody give Ted Cruz a parting gift and send him back to Canada.

We don’t want him back. Thanks for the offer though. /

97 Stanley Sea  Jul 22, 2014 8:14:58am

re: #90 Feline Fearless Leader

Kicker is if they could get up there with white flags they could have gotten up there with more destructive materials.

Which should have a lot of people concerned.

I’m sure some shit is hitting the fan.

99 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 8:16:12am

FUCK

100 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jul 22, 2014 8:17:20am

Goddamn it Bibi, declare victory already.

101 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 8:18:25am

re: #99 Pie-onist Overlord

Because this happened:

102 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 8:21:04am

re: #97 Stanley Sea

I’m sure some shit is hitting the fan.

I’m looking at the ABC News live feed of the Bridge. It looks like one flag is a very very faded US flag. I can make out the stars and stripes.

abcnews.go.com

Flag is down now.

103 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 8:22:41am

My surprise, etc. —

Report: Paul, McConnell Oppose Housing Child Migrants In Kentucky

I don’t expect anyone with an (R) after their name to do anything to help these kids. They’d just end up being primaried by the mouth breathing base for daring to have compassion for poor brown kids fleeing from the cartels.

104 Stanley Sea  Jul 22, 2014 8:23:03am

re: #102 wheat-dogghazi

I’m looking at the ABC News live feed of the Bridge. It looks like one flag is a very very faded US flag. I can make out the stars and stripes.

abcnews.go.com

Flag is down now.

Weird.

105 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 8:23:16am

re: #86 Aqua Obama

Hey, Sergey, since you’re around these parts again, can you tell me what THIS is supposed to be? What are they saying?

[Embedded content]

Video

*triple facepalm*

It’s a well-known Russian lyricist and a children’s choir singing a song “We’re together” for officers of various intelligence/security services. The concert was held on the so-called “day of the worker of the security forces of the Russian Federation”.

106 EmmaAnne  Jul 22, 2014 8:23:22am

re: #50 Gus

The full appeals court will almost certainly overrule this. It won’t have to go to the Supremes. This was a little temper tantrum by a couple of Republican judges who wanted to vent some spleen. Judges used to be kind of embarrassed to make rulings that were plainly inconsistent with the statute and previous holdings, but apparently they have been emboldened by certain Supremes’ lack of shame.

107 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 8:24:07am

re: #103 Lidane

My surprise, etc. —

Report: Paul, McConnell Oppose Housing Child Migrants In Kentucky

I don’t expect anyone with an (R) after their name to do anything to help these kids. They’d just end up being primaried by the mouth breathing base for daring to have compassion for poor brown kids fleeing from the cartels.

108 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 8:24:36am

So, Israel is supposed to declare a cease fire before the airport can be secured?

109 EmmaAnne  Jul 22, 2014 8:25:15am

re: #58 blueraven

This was a three judge panel and will now go to the full appeals court. Then probably on to the SCOTUS.

sucks.

I doubt it will go to the Supremes. There won’t be a disagreement among appeals courts.

110 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 8:25:19am

re: #103 Lidane

My surprise, etc. —

Report: Paul, McConnell Oppose Housing Child Migrants In Kentucky

I don’t expect anyone with an (R) after their name to do anything to help these kids. They’d just end up being primaried by the mouth breathing base for daring to have compassion for poor brown kids fleeing from the cartels.

Can’t count on Rand or Mitch to have any humanity towards poor migrant kids. Now if they were a bunch of wealthy white businessmen who wanted a tax cut, then Rand and Mitch would be welcoming them with open arms. These guys are the posterboys for everything despicable about conservatism.

111 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 8:26:03am

Cops are now folding the white flag in the traditional way US flags are folded — to form a triangle.

112 Stanley Sea  Jul 22, 2014 8:28:38am

re: #111 wheat-dogghazi

Cops are now folding the white flag in the traditional way US flags are folded — to form a triangle.

Did someone climb up there with bleach?
Did we miss the fade until now?

Strange as hell.

113 Killgore Trout  Jul 22, 2014 8:30:03am

re: #108 Pie-onist Overlord

So, Israel is supposed to declare a cease fire before the airport can be secured?

Peace!
/

114 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 8:31:30am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Can’t count on Rand or Mitch to have any humanity towards poor migrant kids. Now if they were a bunch of wealthy white businessmen who wanted a tax cut, then Rand and Mitch would be welcoming them with open arms. These guys are the posterboys for everything despicable about conservatism.

Here’s the Louisville Courier-Journal article reporting that Fort Knox was being considered as a shelter facility, but DoD said the reservation could not be used until fall. HHS has canceled plans to use Fort Knox.
courier-journal.com

115 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 8:33:25am

re: #112 Stanley Sea

Did someone climb up there with bleach?
Did we miss the fade until now?

Strange as hell.

Or it’s been fading gradually, and this was the day and lighting condition that made someone notice.

116 Timothy Watson  Jul 22, 2014 8:34:08am

re: #115 Decatur Deb

Or it’s been fading gradually, and this was the day and lighting condition that made someone notice.

But both of them at the same time?

117 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 8:34:50am

re: #116 Timothy Watson

But both of them at the same time?

Made in China. Guaranteed to fade within 6 months.

//

118 Aqua Obama  Jul 22, 2014 8:35:12am
119 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 8:35:55am

re: #116 Timothy Watson

But both of them at the same time?

Only seen a photo of one. Might have both been flown at the same time, assuming they are lit and allowed thus to fly day and night.

120 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 8:37:51am

Just glad someone didn’t look up and see the faces of Jesus and Miley Cyrus in them.

121 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 8:38:23am

The stuff going on in Israel makes my heart hurt. I don’t know enough about the political situation to make heads or tails out of what led to the latest conflict. I just know I hate seeing innocent people on both sides caught in the crossfire. :(

122 De Kolta Chair  Jul 22, 2014 8:40:22am

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

I also wondered how they got up there.

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“Are you listening, Dorothy?!!”

123 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 8:41:11am

re: #106 EmmaAnne

Knowing how much the GOP wants to get the ACA repealed, they’ll appeal the decision to the SCt even if the decision is reversed by the full circuit.

124 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 22, 2014 8:41:41am

re: #84 Decatur Deb

Freep has been for a couple days. They’re especially ticked at Boston’s Cardinal O’Malley, who has favored sheltering them in Boston, and who led a cross-the-border-wire communion service.

The Cardinal is doing what’s right? No wonder freep’s having a fit.

I have my problems with Rome, but good for him on this issue.

125 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 8:41:51am

Russian national-patriots see today’s Putin’s speech as a sign of him having given up on the “rebels”.

126 Ryan King  Jul 22, 2014 8:42:07am

re: #117 wheat-dogghazi

Made in China. Guaranteed to fade within 6 months.

//

THANKS OBAMA. This obviously proves Benghazi.

127 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 8:42:29am

re: #123 lawhawk

Knowing how much the GOP wants to get the ACA repealed, they’ll appeal the decision to the SCt even if the decision is reversed by the full circuit.

And they can enter the 2016 elections with another 20 million pissed-off citizens.

128 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 8:42:57am

re: #126 Ryan King

THANKS OBAMA. This obviously proves Benghazi.

They’re false flags!!

129 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 8:45:16am

re: #124 William Barnett-Lewis

The Cardinal is doing what’s right? No wonder freep’s having a fit.

I have my problems with Rome, but good for him on this issue.

We were (tiny) classmates for five years at St. Fidelis. He’s like me, but a lot smarter and kind of religious.

130 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 8:48:26am

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey, lawhawk…what’s going on over there?

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Anyone (lawhawk…others in the NYC area) what is the name of the very unique building in the tweet image in Sleuths comment? I know the one is the new One Tower, what is the name of the other?

I like architecture and would love to see more images and know what that one is all about. If anyone has any links to info I’d appreciate it.

131 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 8:49:33am

Has even ONE MS-13 gang member been among the child migrants? Wingnuts are spamming photos of tatted-up gangbangers but has any one of them been identified in this group?

132 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 8:49:52am

Short gallery of WW1-era planes that are still flying.

nbcnews.com

I think the closest eastern US equivalent to the Shuttleworth collection is Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome. It’s just off the Hudson River near Hyde Park, NY.

en.wikipedia.org

133 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 22, 2014 8:50:45am

re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord

Has even ONE MS-13 gang member been among the child migrants? Wingnuts are spamming photos of tatted-up gangbangers but has any one of them been identified in this group?

Most if not all of those children are fleeing the gangs. If any have tats, they were done under duress.

134 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 8:50:57am

re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord

Has even ONE MS-13 gang member been among the child migrants? Wingnuts are spamming photos of tatted-up gangbangers but has any one of them been identified in this group?

Of course not. But it’s an easy thing for the bigots to latch on to.

You know, because children who leave their homes, their families and everything they have ever known to walk thousands of miles to surrender to the American government are coming here to fight for the same cartels that drove them out of their homes.

135 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 8:51:25am

re: #131 Pie-onist Overlord

Has even ONE MS-13 gang member been among the child migrants? Wingnuts are spamming photos of tatted-up gangbangers but has any one of them been identified in this group?

Remember a credible news source on one who was easily identified by the tats, and given the bum’s rush.

136 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 8:52:24am

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

I also wondered how they got up there.

[Embedded content]

photoshop?

Or has Brooklyn surrendered?

137 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 8:52:29am

re: #134 Lidane

Of course not. But it’s an easy thing for the bigots to latch on to.

You know, because children who leave their homes, their families and everything they have ever known to walk thousands of miles to surrender to the American government are coming here to fight for the same cartels that drove them out of their homes.

The gangbangers are pretty conspicuous and they would certainly stick out in a group of kids. I think all the photos the wingnuts are spamming are from prison compounds and not from the border.

138 Stanley Sea  Jul 22, 2014 8:52:31am

re: #130 ObserverArt

Anyone (lawhawk…others in the NYC area) what is the name of the very unique building in the tweet image in Sleuths comment? I know the one is the new One Tower, what is the name of the other?

I like architecture and would love to see more images and know what that one is all about. If anyone has any links to info I’d appreciate it.

2nd request!

139 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 8:52:32am

Hoft and his friends are nothing but modern day Bill the Butchers. Of course, that’s probably a compliment ot them.

140 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 8:53:21am

re: #104 Stanley Sea

Weird.

ah, sun bleaching.

141 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 8:53:43am

re: #130 ObserverArt

Anyone (lawhawk…others in the NYC area) what is the name of the very unique building in the tweet image in Sleuths comment? I know the one is the new One Tower, what is the name of the other?

I like architecture and would love to see more images and know what that one is all about. If anyone has any links to info I’d appreciate it.

It’s Gehry’s 8 Spruce Street.

142 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 8:55:32am

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

Somebody give Ted Cruz a parting gift and send him back to Canada.

How about one step further and have Canada reject and send him and his ol’ man back to Cuba.

Both countries would be better off without him.

Sorry Cuba.

///

143 Ryan King  Jul 22, 2014 8:55:40am

re: #128 wheat-dogghazi

They’re false flags!!

Rimshot

144 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 8:56:34am

My surprise, etc. —

Boehner: No Border Money Without Policy Changes

Bitch plz. Obama could give the Republicans every damn thing they want so he can get that money and they’d STILL oppose him. The Republican party is morally and intellectually bankrupt except for saying no to everything POTUS asks for.

146 Stanley Sea  Jul 22, 2014 8:58:04am

re: #141 lawhawk

It’s Gehry’s 8 Spruce Street.

wow.

147 Killgore Trout  Jul 22, 2014 8:58:15am

Iranian state press is pretty excited over the prospect of more anti-Israel coverage from American news outlets
MSNBC contributor: ‘We are disgustingly biased’ for Israel

148 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 8:58:28am

re: #144 Lidane

My surprise, etc. —

Boehner: No Border Money Without Policy Changes

Bitch plz. Obama could give the Republicans every damn thing they want so he can get that money and they’d STILL oppose him. The Republican party is morally and intellectually bankrupt except for saying no to everything POTUS asks for.

Because the only thing he could give them that they want is his immediate resignation.

149 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 8:58:30am

It’s all about money.

Whackos don’t want government telling them how to spend their money.
From birth control to refugee children.

If it were a church or corporation running the show, things would be different.

Ayn Rand drones.

150 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 8:58:39am

re: #125 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Russian national-patriots see today’s Putin’s speech as a sign of him having given up on the “rebels”.

Why is that? I’m curious.

151 Kragar  Jul 22, 2014 8:58:40am
152 Stanley Sea  Jul 22, 2014 8:59:11am

re: #141 lawhawk

It’s Gehry’s 8 Spruce Street.

Another is the Barry Diller IAC.

153 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 8:59:39am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because the only thing he could give them that they want is his immediate resignation.

They must really want President Biden.

154 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 9:00:34am

re: #145 Pie-onist Overlord

One 26-year-old gangbanger immediately spotted and deported.

Could be my #135.

155 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 9:00:44am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

To them his words about there being no danger to the Russian territorial integrity indicate that he won’t send in the troops (and anything less they see as treason).

156 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 9:02:36am

re: #153 Lidane

They must really want President Biden.

Sorry, I forgot to add that the resignation would have to include Biden, making Boehner President.

Who could then step down in favor of Ted Cruz.

157 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 9:02:51am

re: #141 lawhawk

It’s Gehry’s 8 Spruce Street.

Thanks a bunch! Very interesting design.

158 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 9:03:11am

re: #155 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

To them his words about there being no danger to the Russian territorial integrity indicate that he won’t send in the troops (and anything less they see as treason).

Ah, OK. I wonder how the “rebels” back in Donetsk will view this? Perhaps a similar opinion?

159 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 9:04:25am
160 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 9:04:26am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

Some former online quasi loyalists are openly fantasizing about a coup and call for the use of a certain 18th century tobacco-box (IYKWIM).

161 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:05:20am

Just how twisted can a person be?

I’m shocked at the countless hundreds of millions of dollars that have been spent over the years in the desperate and fruitless search for extraterrestrial life. Even Bill Nye “the Science Guy,” in our recent debate, happily gloated about tax dollars being spent toward this effort. And now, secular scientists are at it again.

Of course, secularists are desperate to find life in outer space, as they believe that would provide evidence that life can evolve in different locations and given the supposed right conditions! The search for extraterrestrial life is really driven by man’s rebellion against God in a desperate attempt to supposedly prove evolution!

Oh, but don’t forget to buy something:

We need to start proclaiming the authority of God’s Word from the very first verse—even on the subject of alien life! For more information on the supposed existence of ETs and other common questions about a biblical worldview, I encourage you to order The New Answers Book series from our bookstore. Or for witnessing purposes, we have a booklet that can be ordered in bulk with special pricing to help teach people the truth about aliens and UFOs and promote the gospel for your local church or youth programs.

Ken takes all major credit cards

162 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 9:06:13am

re: #160 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Some former online quasi loyalists are openly fantasizing about a coup and call for the use of a certain 18th century tobacco-box (IYKWIM).

Heh. So they’re thinking Putin has turned on them.

Pass the popcorn.

163 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2014 9:07:30am
Or for witnessing purposes, we have a booklet that can be ordered in bulk with special pricing to help teach people the truth.

Because a mass produced booklet is such an AWESOME way to win souls for Jesus.

I might be a Christian but I can’t STAND Chick tracts and their numerous imitators.

164 Kragar  Jul 22, 2014 9:07:41am

re: #161 FemNaziBitch

Just how twisted can a person be?

Oh, but don’t forget to buy something:

Ken takes all major credit cards

Pretty Twisted

The fundamentalist group is associated with creationist Ken Ham, head of the Answers in Genesis ministry, who claims their mission is part of a spiritual battle dating back to the temptation in the biblical Garden of Eden.

“If all life arose by natural processes, and there was no God, why would people even care what others were taught?” Ham said. “After all, for the secularists, when they die they will cease to exist—and in their belief system, they won’t know they even existed—so why should they care what is taught to children?”

165 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 9:07:51am

re: #162 Dr Lizardo

The more paranoid and twisted among them even expect repressions against all the “patriots”.

166 De Kolta Chair  Jul 22, 2014 9:09:18am

re: #141 lawhawk

It’s Gehry’s 8 Spruce Street.

I live near that building. Depending on my mood, I either like it or hate it.

167 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 22, 2014 9:10:18am
“If all life arose by natural processes, and there was no God, why would people even care what others were taught?” Ham said. “After all, for the secularists, when they die they will cease to exist—and in their belief system, they won’t know they even existed—so why should they care what is taught to children?”

because we have to live with them after they’ve been brainwashed by Shit stains like Ham?

SATSQ

168 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2014 9:10:19am

re: #164 Kragar

Ken Ham really is an idiot. That statement makes NO sense.

169 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 9:10:46am

re: #157 ObserverArt

Yeah, it’s an apartment building. One of the tallest in the world, and it’s set to be topped by several others in NYC including a couple in progress on 57th Street.

The Woolworth Building is also undergoing renovations to build condos on the upper floors. Those would be truly super luxury - old school luxury at that.

And Silverstein is building a luxury condo/hotel at 30 Park Place that will be taller than both Woolworth and 8 Spruce designed by Robert AM Stern.

170 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 22, 2014 9:10:53am

And another reason to avoid fast food

Gotta love how these companies operate. The law says the chickens and such need to be raised here. They are then, apparently, shipped to China for processing before coming back here as meat. Makes no sense whatsoever.

171 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 9:11:13am

re: #167 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Shorter Ham: if you’re an atheist, it doesn’t make sense to do anything.

172 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 9:12:28am

re: #161 FemNaziBitch

Just how twisted can a person be?

The space program isn’t just about finding aliens. It’s about the basic idea of understanding the universe we live in. And honestly? If NASA is a threat to your belief system, your version of God is pathetic and weak and doesn’t deserve any consideration at all.

173 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 9:12:46am

re: #165 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The more paranoid and twisted among them even expect repressions against all the “patriots”.

I take it by ‘repressions’ they’re using the classic Soviet meaning of the word - i.e., mass executions?

174 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:13:24am

re: #172 Lidane

The space program isn’t just about finding aliens. It’s about the basic idea of understanding the universe we live in. And honestly? If NASA is a threat to your belief system, your version of God is pathetic and weak and doesn’t deserve any consideration at all.

Well, he has a profitable side-show.

175 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 9:13:36am

re: #171 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Shorter Ham: if you’re an atheist, it doesn’t make sense to do anything.

Without fear of God’s Wrath and Hellfire and Damnation, people would just run around fucking and gambling and drinking and fighting all the time, right?

176 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2014 9:13:42am

re: #170 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

And another reason to avoid fast food

Gotta love how these companies operate. The law says the chickens and such need to be raised here. They are then, apparently, shipped to China for processing before coming back here as meat. Makes no sense whatsoever.

I never think of any fast food “chicken” as such anyway.

177 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 9:14:10am

re: #166 De Kolta Chair

Depends on the angle you’re viewing it, and the time of day. I’m not a huge fan, and its base is incongruous with the rest of the building (it’s bricked with a local public school). It doesn’t meld old material with new the way Foster did with the Forbes building in Midtown.

But then again, I lean towards Foster-inspired design than Gehry.

178 blueraven  Jul 22, 2014 9:14:43am

re: #147 Killgore Trout

Iranian state press is pretty excited over the prospect of more anti-Israel coverage from American news outlets
MSNBC contributor: ‘We are disgustingly biased’ for Israel

Wow KT, you see the same crap on CNN and even Fox, from their guests.

But keep giving PressTV cred.

179 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:14:48am

So, Mom (84 yo) calls me. Says she got a scam call about her debit card from someone saying they represent a bank neither of us have ever heard of. I checked her account and all is fine.

What, if anything, should I do. I think it upset her.

My question is, how did this scammer get her cell phone number?

180 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:15:09am

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

I never think of any fast food “chicken” as such anyway.

I’m so glad I was born a non-meat eater.

181 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 9:15:13am

re: #170 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

What they have been doing is mixing outdated tainted meat with fresh meat in volumes not acceptable to government. You heard that right some mixing is allowed and probably expected but looks like they exceeded the allowed ratio.

But at least the amount of human flesh was lower than the 4% allowed by the FDA.

182 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:15:32am

Am I missing DF? Don’t recall seeing him lately.

183 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2014 9:15:38am

I EMBRACE the universe and everything that has been put in it.
I also EMBRACE the human thirst for discovery and exploration.

And I don’t think there’s anything unbiblical about those positions.

184 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 9:16:24am

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

No, prison for some, softer repressions for the others, perhaps sudden death of the most radical ones.

185 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:17:10am
186 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2014 9:17:11am

re: #179 FemNaziBitch

So, Mom (84 yo) calls me. Says she got a scam call about her debit card from someone saying they represent a bank neither of us have ever heard of. I checked her account and all is fine.

What, if anything, should I do. I think it upset her.

My question is, how did this scammer get her cell phone number?

Contest forms/loyalty program databases/in-store promotions/etc.

Also could be a former landline number that was just bought as part of a big list of numbers.

187 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 9:18:04am

re: #184 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

No, prison for some, softer repressions for the others, perhaps sudden death of the most radical ones.

OK. Heh….they sound pretty much the same as the so-called “patriots” in the US.

188 Kragar  Jul 22, 2014 9:18:40am

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Without fear of God’s Wrath and Hellfire and Damnation, people would just run around fucking and gambling and drinking and fighting all the time, right?

So just like your regular Christian communities then?

189 alpuz  Jul 22, 2014 9:19:53am

re: #106 EmmaAnne

…and one hell of a trust fund.

190 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 9:19:55am

re: #185 FemNaziBitch

Water department: Detroit shut-offs just on pause

I’ve seen so much RWNJ herpty derp about Detroit and the water shut-offs.

If people can’t afford $50 for water they deserve to have it shut off! I pay MY bills on time unlike teh poorz! Eleventy!

I’d flip my desk and set it on fire, but my boss might get mad. Heh.

191 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:20:51am

I met a woman from the Ukraine a while back. She said there were no illegal drugs before the fall of communism. At least, not in the schools or colleges. Since then, she’s lost to childhood best friends to OD’s.

Seems the atheist communists really needed a god to tell them how keep their base nature in check.

192 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:22:11am
193 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 9:24:50am

re: #188 Kragar

So just like your regular Christian communities then?

exactly. Imagine them without fear of eternal damnation

194 leftynyc  Jul 22, 2014 9:25:23am

re: #81 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m planning a trip to Israel next year.

Me too (with 5 others) for Fall 2015.

195 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 9:25:45am

re: #166 De Kolta Chair

I live near that building. Depending on my mood, I either like it or hate it.

I can see that. As an artist, I like it as it has a unique way of catching light, etc.

Your comment to a degree reminds me of all the folks here in Columbus that threw a fit when the city went with “deconstructionist” Peter Eisenman for our convention center. People that like everything nice and tidy and in traditional 90° squares, etc. threw a fit. I liked it because it was bold and fun..something Columbus seems to have issues with. And if viewed from above, it is reminiscent of railroad cars on the trains tracks. It was built where the old Union Station passenger railroad terminal was. Inside it has a bunch of eye-deceiving optical illusions.

Some images…

Columbus Convention Center - High Street Main Entrance

Columbus Convention Center - View of Roof

Columbus Convention Center - Main Hall just outside Exhibit Hall

Who knows, maybe if we are lucky the Democratic Convention will come here and they can bitch about it too!

196 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:26:02am

In his 2007 book “A Farewell to Alms,” the economic historian Gregory Clark argued that the English came to rule the world largely because their rich outbred their poor, and thus embedded their superior genes and values throughout the nation. In her comprehensive takedown, the historian Deirdre N. McCloskey noted that Clark’s idea was a “bold hypothesis, and was bold when first articulated by social Darwinists such as Charles Davenport and Francis Galton in the century before last.” Indeed, over the past 150 years, various white Western scientists and writers have repeatedly offered biological explanations for Caucasian superiority. They have repeatedly failed because, as Mc­Closkey noted, none ever mounted a credible quantitative argument.

Now, in “A Troublesome Inheritance,” Nicholas Wade, a longtime science writer for The New York Times, says modern genetics shows that “the three major races,” Africans, Caucasians and East Asians, are genetically distinct races that diverge much as subspecies do, and that their genetic differences underlie “the rise of the West.”

Out bred? without Contraception? more likely rich children lived.

197 Kragar  Jul 22, 2014 9:26:31am

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

exactly. Imagine them without fear of eternal damnation

Well, other than sleeping in Sunday mornings, I don’t think they’d be all that different really

198 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 9:26:54am

re: #191 FemNaziBitch

I met a woman from the Ukraine a while back. She said there were no illegal drugs before the fall of communism. At least, not in the schools or colleges. Since then, she’s lost to childhood best friends to OD’s.

Seems the atheist communists really needed a god to tell them how keep their base nature in check.

Whatever else you could say about Soviet communism, it had a much more tightly knit social system. People on drugs would not go unnoticed and would be dealt with.

Now the system has fallen apart, there is nobody to police the drug smugglers or care about their victims.

199 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 9:28:01am

re: #190 Lidane

I’ve seen so much RWNJ herpty derp about Detroit and the water shut-offs.

If people can’t afford $50 for water they deserve to have it shut off! I pay MY bills on time unlike teh poorz! Eleventy!

I’d flip my desk and set it on fire, but my boss might get mad. Heh.

My city is linked to the DWS system, I pay my bill on time and it’s like $70/month.

That said, there should be a minimum amount of water provided to households for health and sanitation reasons. A payment schedule can be worked out for customers on a sliding scale of ability to pay.

200 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 9:28:53am
201 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 9:29:49am

re: #182 FemNaziBitch

Am I missing DF? Don’t recall seeing him lately.

I asked earlier too. I am hoping he is still an active member, but I am beginning to doubt. I also hope his leg infection he was fighting didn’t turn bad.

He gets downdinged a whole bunch too, so maybe he has decided to toss in the towel.

202 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 9:31:38am

re: #199 Pie-onist Overlord

My city is linked to the DWS system, I pay my bill on time and it’s like $70/month.

That said, there should be a minimum amount of water provided to households for health and sanitation reasons. A payment schedule can be worked out for customers on a sliding scale of ability to pay.

You mean “to each according to his needs, from each according to his ability?”

COMMUNIST!!!

/

203 Joanne  Jul 22, 2014 9:32:12am

re: #170 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

And another reason to avoid fast food

Yuck. Thanks for the heads up.

204 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 9:32:13am

re: #200 Gus

205 De Kolta Chair  Jul 22, 2014 9:32:17am

Gothamist has a good line about the Brooklyn Bridge flag mystery:

“Jasper Johns better have an airtight alibi.”

207 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 9:34:53am

re: #204 lawhawk

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All within the time it took for my quick errand run.

208 blueraven  Jul 22, 2014 9:35:00am

re: #201 ObserverArt

I asked earlier too. I am hoping he is still an active member, but I am beginning to doubt. I also hope his leg infection he was fighting didn’t turn bad.

He gets downdinged a whole bunch too, so maybe he has decided to toss in the towel.

And I think that is sad. Sometimes he definitely deserves it, but other times he is just respectfully posing an opposite opinion.

Hope he is OK.

209 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 9:35:14am
210 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 9:36:07am

re: #201 ObserverArt

I asked earlier too. I am hoping he is still an active member, but I am beginning to doubt. I also hope his leg infection he was fighting didn’t turn bad.

He gets downdinged a whole bunch too, so maybe he has decided to toss in the towel.

It’s hard to defend a side when they’re outright attacking and demonizing unarmed, unaccompanied kids. At some point you have to ask yourself if rooting for a team is worth your conscience.

That said, I hope DF is okay. And I hope he sticks around.

211 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 9:37:12am

Anybody, liberal or conservative, who compares Israel to the nazis & says the “solution” is for Israel to not exist, gets blocked.

212 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 9:37:59am

re: #209 Pie-onist Overlord

I am blocking this person now.

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213 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:38:08am
214 Joanne  Jul 22, 2014 9:38:38am

re: #179 FemNaziBitch

So, Mom (84 yo) calls me. Says she got a scam call about her debit card from someone saying they represent a bank neither of us have ever heard of. I checked her account and all is fine.

What, if anything, should I do. I think it upset her.

My question is, how did this scammer get her cell phone number?

You can get lists. If she’s ever gotten anything, she’s on a list. Lists can be bought or hacked.

If they made no mention if her bank or anything personal, I’d just warn her to be weary of inbound calls. If they mentioned anything personal, I’d give the bank a call and advise them…and ask what their fraud policies are.

I had a fraud issue and 5/3rd was HORRIBLE. It took three months of my money being locked up, a visit to the police (where I had to pay for a police report) and numerous faxes and follow ups. Chase, OTOH, takes a proactive stance.

I’d put a heavy block on any cards m, if you think it’s warranted (cancel any mentioned and get replacements).

215 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 9:38:39am
216 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 9:39:32am

Noun, verb, GENOCIDE.

217 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:40:19am

re: #208 blueraven

And I think that is sad. Sometimes he definitely deserves it, but other times he is just respectfully posing reciting an opposite opinion.

Hope he is OK.

FTFY

he is a drone

218 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 9:40:45am

re: #215 lawhawk

So which derp will we see first:

OBUMMER KEEPING PATRIOTS FROM ISRAEL

or

OBUMMER REFUSES TO HELP ISRAEL, BLOCKS FLIGHTS

or

OBUMMER CONCEDES ISRAELI AIRSPACE TO HAMAS

219 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 9:41:23am

re: #217 FemNaziBitch

FTFY

he is a drone

most of the downdings seem to come not from voicing an unpopular opinion, but in doggedly sticking to it despite any sort of counter argument.

220 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 9:41:46am

re: #208 blueraven

And I think that is sad. Sometimes he definitely deserves it, but other times he is just respectfully posing an opposite opinion.

Hope he is OK.

re: #210 Lidane

It’s hard to defend a side when they’re outright attacking and demonizing unarmed, unaccompanied kids. At some point you have to ask yourself if rooting for a team is worth your conscience.

That said, I hope DF is okay. And I hope he sticks around.

Come out from wherever you are Dark! We loves you just the way you are.

And we all hope you are feeling well!

I also asked about Justanotherhuman too. Like Backwoods_Sleuth responded, she is was in the process of moving into a new apartment and I think she mentioned her grandson was setting up a new laptop for her. I miss her reporting which has a great way of kicking off some good comments around here.

221 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 9:41:59am

re: #218 Lidane

So which derp will we see first:

OBUMMER KEEPING PATRIOTS FROM ISRAEL

or

OBUMMER REFUSES TO HELP ISRAEL, BLOCKS FLIGHTS

or

OBUMMER CONCEDES ISRAELI AIRSPACE TO HAMAS

I am waiting for Obama to pack an airliner full of dead bodies and have it crash over Gaza…

222 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:43:26am
223 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:43:46am
224 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 9:44:00am

re: #206 FemNaziBitch

Nature Blows My Mind! Macro photographs of brilliant hummingbirdsphoto Chris Morgan

Wow…that is stunning. After studying color theory at art college I always use momma nature as a reference of how you deal with color. The hummingbird is another fantastic example.

225 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 9:45:25am

re: #216 Gus

Noun, verb, GENOCIDE.

“Genocide” is thrown around a lot. I remember how Russia was accused of a “genocide” of Chechens by many in the West. What Russia did was, of course, brutal, but not anywhere near genocide.

226 Joanne  Jul 22, 2014 9:45:51am

re: #223 FemNaziBitch

Gotta love it where your news choices are equal to Fox News, the Daily Caller, the Washington Times and Alex Jones.

227 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 9:46:38am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

most of the downdings seem to come not from voicing an unpopular opinion, but in doggedly sticking to it despite any sort of counter argument.

True…but for lively debate someone has to do it. And I do think sometimes Dark also knew he was pouring a little gas on the fires.

: )

228 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:47:05am
229 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:48:02am

re: #225 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

“Genocide” is thrown around a lot. I remember how Russia was accused of a “genocide” of Chechens by many in the West. What Russia did was, of course, brutal, but not anywhere near genocide.

Many don’t understand the very distinct difference between genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Such things are a big deal.

230 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 9:48:09am

The FAA order will actually have more effect on getting Israel to stop its military action against Hamas than events on the ground. It’s the optics and the tide of public opinion that will ultimately get Netenyahu to cease going after Hamas on the ground.

This all comes as Hamas has fired missiles/rockets that have landed near the airport. The airlines rightfully don’t want to see their gear destroyed by the missiles or rockets, and that’ll be more than enough to keep them away.

That has the effect of imposing economic harms on Israel (lost tourism/commerce) and indirectly strengthens Hamas’ hand.

At the same time, I’ve seen some truly idiotic reporting/commentary on the situation in Gaza. Like the one that claims that Hamas has truly gone from being an amateur outfit to a professional militia that can go toe to toe with Israel. Except that it doesn’t. It’s operating as a guerrilla group would - negating Israel’s technological advantages by fighting underground and close quarters where tanks, artillery, and aircraft/UAVs have little effect and it is a man-on-man platoon fight where you’re fighting room to room, under buildings and in tunnels. It might have longer range weapons, but the casualties inflicted are still overwhelmingly from the close-quarters combat between IDF and Hamas in the warrens of Gaza.

231 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 9:48:22am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I am waiting for Obama to pack an airliner full of dead bodies and have it crash over Gaza…

Oooooo…will Mitch McConnel and Johnny BoehnHead be on it?

/// very…but they both are dead are they not?!

232 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 9:48:43am

re: #228 FemNaziBitch

And here I thought conservatives wanted individual freedom and less government in someone’s life. Who knew?

233 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:49:01am

re: #224 ObserverArt

Wow…that is stunning. After studying color theory at art college I always use momma nature as a reference of how you deal with color. The hummingbird is another fantastic example.

I love the iridescence! So difficult to reproduce with pigment.

234 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2014 9:49:14am

re: #222 FemNaziBitch

At a quick glance I read that as: Eugene Levy agrees to Moderate new sanctions against Russia

235 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 9:49:14am

re: #223 FemNaziBitch

The book in pdf. Gotta love the cover.

236 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 9:49:29am

re: #228 FemNaziBitch

Government is constitutionally required to fight “homosexual conduct,” argues Eagle Forum lawyer

Because gayz give me the sadz and government is all about guaranteeing the pursuit of happyness

237 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2014 9:50:04am

re: #228 FemNaziBitch

Wait, gays are in the Constitution, huh?

238 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 9:50:25am

re: #225 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

“Genocide” is thrown around a lot. I remember how Russia was accused of a “genocide” of Chechens by many in the West. What Russia did was, of course, brutal, but not anywhere near genocide.

Yep. Would be a first. “Genocide committed against Gaza” correlating with an increasing population. How does that work? Has nothing to do where a person stands either. One can vehemently oppose Israel’s response here without seeing “genocide.” That’s what a rational person would do. But, this is the internet.

239 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 9:51:30am

re: #229 FemNaziBitch

Many don’t understand the very distinct difference between genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Such things are a big deal.

Yes, genocide requires intent to exterminate a group or a part of it by ethnic, religious and/or certain other criteria.

240 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:52:21am

re: #232 Lidane

And here I thought conservatives wanted individual freedom and less government in someone’s life. Who knew?

I started a list, yesterday, of people who don’t count as human and I must apologize to Obdi as I forgot one of the most maligned groups.

1-Women
2-Brown People
3-Non-Heterosexual
4-Non-Religion du Jour
5-Jews
6-Communists
7-Poor People
8-Romani

241 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 9:52:55am

re: #235 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The book in pdf. Gotta love the cover.

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are those tails?

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242 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 22, 2014 9:53:00am

Saw this posted by my priest: nytimes.com about how the last Christians in Mosul have been forced to flee for their lives by ISIS. Meanwhile we have idiots here who claim to be persecuted because they aren’t allowed to persecute others.

smh.

Fundamentalism is a poison to all faiths.

243 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 9:53:21am

re: #241 FemNaziBitch

Ah. Um.

244 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 9:53:59am

re: #241 FemNaziBitch

are those tails?

:0

Actually, yes.

245 wrenchwench  Jul 22, 2014 9:53:59am

re: #243 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Ah. Um.

Mingus?

246 blueraven  Jul 22, 2014 9:54:56am
247 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 9:55:27am

re: #229 FemNaziBitch

Democide: the murder of any person or people by their government, including genocide, politicide and mass murder.

Ethnic cleansing: the mass expulsion or killing of members of an unwanted ethnic or religious group in a society. Forcible relocation of a group from a geographic area/region.

Genocide: the systematic and deliberate killing of a particular ethnic, cultural or religious group because they belong to that particular ethnic, cultural or religious group.

There’s also politicide, which includes the deliberate physical destruction of a group whose members share the main characteristic of belonging to a political movement.

Ethnic cleansing can be undertaken in context of both genocide and democide. Genocide specifically relates to the democide or politicide on grounds of a specific policy to slaughter a group on their ethnic, cultural or religious beliefs. It is frequently a policy that is undertaken in conjunction with genocide or democide, but can be a standalone policy.

Genocide is a specific form of democide.

248 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 9:56:15am

re: #247 lawhawk

Genocide is a specific form of democide.

What about GOPocide?

249 Killgore Trout  Jul 22, 2014 9:56:20am

Better hurry and return them to the terrorists. Can’t let those rockets go to waste./

250 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 9:56:47am

Including that fake map of the “nation of Palestine” circa 1947-1948. There was never a nation of Palestine. It was a region.

251 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 9:57:01am

re: #246 blueraven

Yeah, Hagen’s up, but all the candidates in that race are underwater in the favorable/unfavorable category.

252 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 9:57:05am

re: #233 FemNaziBitch

I love the iridescence! So difficult to reproduce with pigment.

In a way, but if you want to emulate iridescence you use colors that “pop” and that happens by using colors that are directly across from each other on the color wheel…but not always in pure form. Like orange versus blue, green versus red. Study that image and you’ll see it. Like the area right below the eye…orange and blue. Also, look how the lighter colors are right on top of similar colors…like the light blue greens on top of darker blues. It all gives an image of light and dimension…pop!

And with that…back to my campaign of finding some freakin’ freelance work. It has not been going so good lately. I am in full out war to find clients…before I end up as a greeter at WalMart.

Sigh.

253 Killgore Trout  Jul 22, 2014 9:57:21am
The school is situated between two other UNRWA schools that currently each accommodate 1,500 internally displaced persons.
254 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 9:58:16am

Benham Group Disrupts ‘Synagogue Of Satan’ Unitarian Universalist Worship Services, Receives Proclamation From Mayor

Flip Benham’s group Operation Save America disrupted the services of the First Unitarian Universalist Church of New Orleans on Sunday while the congregation was honoring a member who had died. The organization framed their action as simply an effort to “present the truth of the Gospel in this synagogue of Satan” as part of their efforts “to defeat the culture of death.”

255 ObserverArt  Jul 22, 2014 9:59:04am

re: #242 William Barnett-Lewis

Saw this posted by my priest: nytimes.com about how the last Christians in Mosul have been forced to flee for their lives by ISIS. Meanwhile we have idiots here who claim to be persecuted because they aren’t allowed to persecute others.

smh.

Fundamentalism is a poison to all faiths.

AMEN!

: ) (I was still catching up…some good stuff going on here today)

256 Killgore Trout  Jul 22, 2014 9:59:20am

re: #253 Killgore Trout

Each? Those rockets were “hidden” among 3,000 Palestinian civilians. Ugh.

257 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 10:02:17am
258 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 10:02:43am
259 wrenchwench  Jul 22, 2014 10:04:06am
Prevention of terror starts in the home.

Has Norway reclaimed Utoya?

260 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:04:30am
261 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 10:05:41am

re: #260 FemNaziBitch

FACT: Online sellers are transferring 10s of thousands of guns each year to domestic abusers

NRA counterfact: they would just get them illegally elsewhere…

/

262 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:05:54am

re: #247 lawhawk

Democide: the murder of any person or people by their government, including genocide, politicide and mass murder.

Ethnic cleansing: the mass expulsion or killing of members of an unwanted ethnic or religious group in a society. Forcible relocation of a group from a geographic area/region.

Genocide: the systematic and deliberate killing of a particular ethnic, cultural or religious group because they belong to that particular ethnic, cultural or religious group.

There’s also politicide, which includes the deliberate physical destruction of a group whose members share the main characteristic of belonging to a political movement.

Ethnic cleansing can be undertaken in context of both genocide and democide. Genocide specifically relates to the democide or politicide on grounds of a specific policy to slaughter a group on their ethnic, cultural or religious beliefs. It is frequently a policy that is undertaken in conjunction with genocide or democide, but can be a standalone policy.

Genocide is a specific form of democide.

Isn’t there a distinction in which the UN will get involved. Genocide, they will, Ethnic Cleansing, they won’t??

263 alpuz  Jul 22, 2014 10:06:25am

re: #245 wrenchwench

Mingus?

My wife’s and my wedding song.

Youtube Video

264 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:06:47am
265 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 10:07:29am

Reminder: this asshole is talking about shooting unarmed, unaccompanied children —

GOP House Candidate Suggests ‘Second Amendment’ Response To Border Crisis

“Ultimately, it’s not about hunting and fishing and that type of thing,” he said. “It’s about our ability as individuals to defend ourselves, be it in our own private property, but most importantly, ultimately, it comes down to the right of defending ourselves against tyranny should our government ever become a threat to our liberties. And when you are talking about a government that refuses to secure our borders, you are talking about a government that is not taking seriously its responsibility to defend us.”

“We have the responsibility as individuals and as states to step up in those areas where our federal government will not,” he added.

266 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jul 22, 2014 10:07:29am

re: #26 ComradeDread

No one because I’m pretty sure they’d be in favor of shooting the kids the second they set foot into America. They are ‘soldiers’ servicing an ‘invasion’, after all.

This is yet one more thing to add to the tally of reasons I will use to refute any of the nonsense that America is a Christian nation. Christ would be appalled.

I actually had a discussion with someone on one of my politics boards and he had no problem with shooting anyone who steps over the border illegally.

267 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 10:07:47am

re: #265 Lidane

Reminder: this asshole is talking about shooting unarmed, unaccompanied children —

GOP House Candidate Suggests ‘Second Amendment’ Response To Border Crisis

Agh fuckers. Sick fuckers.

268 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 10:08:25am
269 Killgore Trout  Jul 22, 2014 10:08:45am

That’s a huge victory for Hamas. The economic impact is significant.

270 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 10:08:49am

re: #266 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP

I actually had a discussion with someone on one of my politics boards and he had no problem with shooting anyone who steps over the border illegally.

I said it earlier but these guys are nothing but modern day Bill the Butchers when it comes to immigrants.

271 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 10:08:56am

re: #266 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP

I actually had a discussion with someone on one of my politics boards and he had no problem with shooting anyone who steps over the border illegally.

And what will that guy do the second a militia nutbar shoots an American kid thinking they’re illegal?

272 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:09:06am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

most of the downdings seem to come not from voicing an unpopular opinion, but in doggedly sticking to it despite any sort of counter argument.

That is because he does not think for himself.

273 Killgore Trout  Jul 22, 2014 10:09:27am

re: #258 Gus

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I wonder if they’ve picked out the stationary for their strongly worded letter yet.

274 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 10:10:04am

re: #265 Lidane

Reminder: this asshole is talking about shooting unarmed, unaccompanied children —

GOP House Candidate Suggests ‘Second Amendment’ Response To Border Crisis

…And when you are talking about a government that refuses to secure our borders…

In the sense of “when you are talking about a government that refuses to build a giant fence with moats and alligators and lasers and machine gun towers without raising taxes to fund it”

275 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 10:10:12am

So this is the second time the UN found rockets in a civilian location?

276 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:10:14am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

I said it earlier but these guys are nothing but modern day Bill the Butchers when it comes to immigrants.

Reminds me of the old days here when someone suggested murdering children of the terrorists or even suspected terrorists groups.

I think that person did get banned.

277 Teukka  Jul 22, 2014 10:10:27am

re: #271 Lidane

And what will that guy do the second a militia nutbar shoots an American kid thinking they’re illegal?

I was misinterpreted! Hurr Durr! False flag! Hurr Durr!

278 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 10:10:46am

re: #273 Killgore Trout

I wonder if they’ve picked out the stationary for their strongly worded letter yet.

Something with raised gold leaf would be nice.

279 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 10:10:52am

re: #271 Lidane

And what will that guy do the second a militia nutbar shoots an American kid thinking they’re illegal?

claim that he was really a leftist.

280 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:11:37am

I just got a “tampons are going to kill” you petition thru email.

Everything old is new again.

Next they’ll start saying that you can lose your virginity by using tampons.

281 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 10:11:44am

re: #276 FemNaziBitch

Reminds me of the old days here when someone suggested murdering children of the terrorists or even suspected terrorists groups.

I think that person did get banned.

I’d hope so.

282 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 10:12:12am

Supporting Israel, yer doin’ it wrong —

CWA Urges Support For Israel So Jews Can Be Converted To Christianity

Furthermore, as Christians we are called to protect Israel and stand with this nation of people that God has blessed. Not only should we push for strong foreign policy, but we must also be in prayer for our Jewish friends. Ultimately, God is eager to bring his people back to Him and to direct their zeal for the law into a zeal for Christ’s already accomplished salvation on the Cross for both Jews and Gentiles alike.

283 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 10:12:31am

re: #258 Gus

Good on them to make the statement. But how to get Hamas and the other terror groups to disarm?

That’s the billion dollar question. And no one has any good answers.

Hamas seems to have an answer to that question - they’ll keep firing their munitions until they’ve expired their stockpiles. Israel will continue taking that fire until they have forced Hamas to expend all of its weapons.

And Gazans will continue to suffer from Hamas actions and Israeli responses.

284 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 10:13:25am

re: #282 Lidane

Supporting Israel, yer doin’ it wrong —

CWA Urges Support For Israel So Jews Can Be Converted To Christianity

These people would be willing to stab Israel in the back if their scripture demanded it. They’re not friends at all.

285 wrenchwench  Jul 22, 2014 10:13:32am

re: #263 alpuz

My wife’s and my wedding song.

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Video

That’s wonderful! Must have been a great event.

286 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 10:13:49am

re: #280 FemNaziBitch

Next they’ll start saying that you can lose your virginity by using tampons.

True story — that was the reason why my mom wouldn’t buy me tampons when I first got my period. She actually believed that nonsense. I had to get a bunch of pamphlets from the school nurse debunking that shit before she changed her mind.

287 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 10:13:51am

re: #275 Gus

Yup. Hamas is being more brazen this time around than they were during Cast Lead. This latest incident involved storing weapons in a currently disused school building.

288 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 10:14:30am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

These people would be willing to stab Israel in the back if their scripture demanded it. They’re not friends at all.

They just want us all to go to heaven, and destroying Israel is a small price to pay for Eternal Glory and Salvation.

289 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 10:14:30am

re: #235 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Just in: allegedly LNR militants robbed a sex shop in Lugansk: ru.tsn.ua

Somebody will be evolving with style now /

290 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:14:52am
291 Skip Intro  Jul 22, 2014 10:14:53am

re: #179 FemNaziBitch

So, Mom (84 yo) calls me. Says she got a scam call about her debit card from someone saying they represent a bank neither of us have ever heard of. I checked her account and all is fine.

What, if anything, should I do. I think it upset her.

My question is, how did this scammer get her cell phone number?

Most likely someone she gave it to sold it.

292 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jul 22, 2014 10:15:12am

re: #271 Lidane

And what will that guy do the second a militia nutbar shoots an American kid thinking they’re illegal?

Well, of course, that wouldn’t happen because these are all responsible gun owners. /////

293 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 10:15:27am

re: #265 Lidane

Reminder: this asshole is talking about shooting unarmed, unaccompanied children —

GOP House Candidate Suggests ‘Second Amendment’ Response To Border Crisis

That Machete movie was not far off…

294 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 10:15:39am

So, Ken “I make Pat Robertson look like an intellectual” Ham was saying that we should stop the exploration of space because all the aliens are going to hell anyhow. Thanks Ken.

295 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 10:15:48am

*facepalm*

296 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:16:17am

re: #293 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

That Machete movie was not far off…

I keep seeing that on Netflix is it as good as Grindhouse?

297 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:16:42am

re: #294 HappyWarrior

So, Ken “I make Pat Robertson look like an intellectual” Ham was saying that we should stop the exploration of space because all the aliens are going to hell anyhow. Thanks Ken.

But the RC Church is ready to convert them. . .

298 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 10:17:24am

re: #294 HappyWarrior

So, Ken “I make Pat Robertson look like an intellectual” Ham was saying that we should stop the exploration of space because all the aliens are going to hell anyhow. Thanks Ken.

Not just the Aliens, remember?

299 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:18:09am

re: #286 Lidane

True story — that was the reason why my mom wouldn’t buy me tampons when I first got my period. She actually believed that nonsense. I had to get a bunch of pamphlets from the school nurse debunking that shit before she changed her mind.

I had a roommate that swore she would get some awful infection and die if she used them.

Why anyone would choose to wear what is basically a diaper when there are options is beyond me.

300 Skip Intro  Jul 22, 2014 10:18:35am

re: #274 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Perhaps my memory fails me, but I seem to remember during Bush II a bill to build a fence was passed into law. It was also completely unfunded.

It suckered the Delta Minuses then; no reason to think it won’t do it again.

301 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 10:18:45am

re: #297 FemNaziBitch

But the RC Church is ready to convert them…

I thought that would be more the LDS doing. You know if we ever get colonies on the Moon, the LDS will want first dibs.

302 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 10:18:46am

NOT THIS SAME STUPID SHIT AGAIN

303 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 10:18:50am

re: #296 FemNaziBitch

I keep seeing that on Netflix is it as good as Grindhouse?

Tastes vary. For me it (and Hobo with a gun) was more entertaining than Grindhouse.

304 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 10:18:59am

re: #299 FemNaziBitch

I had a roommate that swore she would get some awful infection and die if she used them.

Why anyone would choose to wear what is basically a diaper when there are options is beyond me.

remember toxic shock syndrome?

305 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:19:43am
306 Stanley Sea  Jul 22, 2014 10:20:08am
307 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 10:20:49am

re: #305 FemNaziBitch

Pope: Aliens can be Catholics too

Good luck trying to teach the Aliens from Alien the trinity.

308 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:21:09am
309 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 10:21:42am

re: #306 Stanley Sea

How Anonymous Cops Online Are Reacting to the Death of Eric Garner

If they’re anonymous, how do we know they are cops and not just random bigots?

310 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 10:21:49am

re: #303 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Tastes vary. For me it (and Hobo with a gun) was more entertaining than Grindhouse.

Werewolf Women of the SS was pretty epic. Looked like it all the makings of a good exploitation flick. Even Nicholas Cage shamelessly hamming it up as Fu Manchu.

Can’t beat that. :D

311 Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2014 10:22:52am

So if I understand Ken Ham right…Star Trek is satanic? I mean Spock DOES have pointy ears after all.

312 GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 22, 2014 10:23:38am

re: #296 FemNaziBitch

I keep seeing that on Netflix is it as good as Grindhouse?

It’s great. Just watch. :)

313 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 10:23:56am

re: #311 Eclectic Cyborg

So if I understand Ken Ham right…Star Trek is satanic?

Yes, and it promotes human and inter-species miscegnation.

314 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 10:24:31am
315 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:24:40am
316 wrenchwench  Jul 22, 2014 10:24:58am

317 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 10:25:59am

re: #316 wrenchwench

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none of the pictures will load…

318 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:26:17am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

Good luck trying to teach the Aliens from Alien the trinity.

Read Eifelheim

Excellent, BTW.

319 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 10:26:45am

re: #316 wrenchwench

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Reminds me of the early 60s Op Art show at the MOMA.

320 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:26:50am

re: #313 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yes, and it promotes human and inter-species miscegnation.

because inbreeding humans has been so successful …

321 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 10:27:37am

re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

none of the pictures will load…

There are pictures? I’m just groking the spinning whirlies.

322 alpuz  Jul 22, 2014 10:27:56am

I’ve always stayed away from the topic at hand. I’d rather leave it to those more educated on the subject who invest their time in the nuances. But, I’d like to drop this here.

Then there is this:

Youtube Video

Always thought it was a good idea to ‘better get it(hit) in your soul.’

323 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 10:28:08am
324 Stanley Sea  Jul 22, 2014 10:28:37am

re: #309 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If they’re anonymous, how do we know they are cops and not just random bigots?

One of the blogs you have to sign in with your ID #. Check the NY Mag article.

325 wrenchwench  Jul 22, 2014 10:28:59am

re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

none of the pictures will load…

Annoying, isn’t it?

I took it from FB where it was posted by an old friend who works at an art museum. If you want really pretty Google ads, visit the Dayton Art Institute.

326 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:29:10am
327 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 10:29:18am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuckn’ Dominicans. A Franciscan would have fed it a veggie-mouse.

328 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:30:07am

re: #327 Decatur Deb

Fuckn’ Dominicans. A Franciscan would have fed it a veggie-mouse.

What would Jesuit do?

329 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 10:31:18am

re: #196 FemNaziBitch

Out bred? without Contraception? more likely rich children lived.

I like Jared Diamond’s explanation better.

Dumb luck in being in the right place for collecting the right sorts of resources and being able to develop technology.

330 wrenchwench  Jul 22, 2014 10:31:24am

re: #326 FemNaziBitch

William Gheen Warns Minorities Want To Lynch And Stab Anti-Immigrant Activists

seems like reality proves the opposite.

Gheen is a horrible human.

331 Stanley Sea  Jul 22, 2014 10:31:26am
332 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 10:32:07am

re: #302 Pie-onist Overlord

NOT THIS SAME STUPID SHIT AGAIN

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Waste of time. She’s an idiot.

333 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 10:32:30am

re: #326 FemNaziBitch

William Gheen Warns Minorities Want To Lynch And Stab Anti-Immigrant Activists

seems like reality proves the opposite.

Remind me, Mr. Gheen, who is showing up armed? Hint asshole it’s not the minorities and pro-immigration activists, it’s your side you fucking asshole.

334 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 10:33:55am

Funny how we always hear about how violent and hateful gays, minorities, immigrants, etc are from the same people who want to be able to bring their guns to the grocery store.

335 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 10:34:05am

Conservative Columnist Asks God To Remove Obama From Office

RWNJs have been begging for God to smite Obama since 2008. Hasn’t happened yet. Once again, The Almighty is slacking.

336 Gus  Jul 22, 2014 10:34:10am

Block, mute, block, mute, block, mute.

337 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 10:34:48am

re: #328 FemNaziBitch

What would Jesuit do?

Dissect it for the midterm grade.

338 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:35:41am

re: #329 Feline Fearless Leader

I like Jared Diamond’s explanation better.

Dumb luck in being in the right place for collecting the right sorts of resources and being able to develop technology.

I read some book a while back —scholarly type extremely boring—academic author went thru every continent with painstaking detail. His conclusion is that Europe thrived because she had good environment for growing food was protected on all sides —ice to the North, Sea to the West and South and Mountains to the East.

It allowed a greater amount of time for people to develop between catastrophes (natural disaster, invasion whatever).

Yea, basically luck.

339 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 10:37:32am
340 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 10:37:37am

theonion.com
Oh Onion i love you.

341 wrenchwench  Jul 22, 2014 10:38:25am
342 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 10:39:02am

Updated my post with new info. The video with the Buk was shot in Lugansk. Russian MoD has an ostrich egg on its face.

343 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 10:39:10am

re: #341 wrenchwench

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Beatcha by 48 secs but yours has the embed-ed image so.

344 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:39:21am

bbl

345 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 10:39:39am

re: #310 Dr Lizardo

Wait, they made that one too?

346 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 10:40:08am

And then there is this shit:

347 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 10:40:18am

Heh.

Obama Judge Trolls Obamacare Opponents With Cheeky Pizza Analogy

In fact, Appellants’ reading is not literal; it’s cramped. No case stands for the proposition that literal readings should take place in a vacuum, acontextually, and untethered from other parts of the operative text; indeed, the case law indicates the opposite. … So does common sense: If I ask for pizza from Pizza Hut for lunch but clarify that I would be fine with a pizza from Domino’s, and I then specify that I want ham and pepperoni on my pizza from Pizza Hut, my friend who returns from Domino’s with a ham and pepperoni pizza has still complied with a literal construction of my lunch order. That is this case: Congress specified that Exchanges should be established and run by the states, but the contingency provision permits federal officials to act in place of the state when it fails to establish an Exchange.

348 Kragar  Jul 22, 2014 10:42:23am

I love how conservatives will tell you government should get out of the way for charities, then attack charities for helping people they don’t like.

349 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:42:47am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

Remind me, Mr. Gheen, who is showing up armed? Hint asshole it’s not the minorities and pro-immigration activists, it’s your side you fucking asshole.

Fear of Slave Revolt.

We have a whole lot of people in this country who grasp furiously at their illusion of Power. Anyone who might threaten it is automatically marked for a 2nd Amendment Solution.

See my list above.

and add to it
9-those without proper paperwork

350 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:44:07am

re: #349 FemNaziBitch

Fear of Slave Revolt.

We have a whole lot of people in this country who grasp furiously at their illusion of Power. Anyone who might threaten it is automatically marked for a 2nd Amendment Solution.

See my list above.

and add to it
9-those without proper paperwork

10-anyone who accepts government entitlements

351 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 10:44:28am

re: #348 Kragar

I love how conservatives will tell you government should get out of the way for charities, then attack charities for helping people they don’t like.

Well it’s a lot like how they approach government overall. Government should stay out of health care but apparently according to the Eagle Forum, the government should be policing consensual sexual activity.

352 FemNaziBitch  Jul 22, 2014 10:44:38am

bbl-fur real

353 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 10:44:54am

re: #347 Lidane

That’s good trolling, but this would have been cheeky:

Instead of the pizza analogy, go with the scrapbooking analogy:

If I ask for scrapbook from Michaels but clarify that I would be fine with a scrapbook from Hobby Lobby, and I then specify that I want a sports theme and cutouts from Michaels, my friend who returns from Hobby Lobby with a sports theme and cutouts for the scrapbook has still complied with a literal construction of my request. /birth control is extra sauce on the side.

354 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 10:45:02am

re: #254 Lidane

Benham Group Disrupts ‘Synagogue Of Satan’ Unitarian Universalist Worship Services, Receives Proclamation From Mayor

Assholes for Jesus. This is the sort of thing that gives Christians a bad name.

355 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 10:45:34am

These are the people who complain about any taxes yet expect us to build a larger replica of the Berlin Wall on our southern border. ……….. Remind me again why conservatives are the fiscally responsible ones again.

356 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 10:46:09am

re: #354 Feline Fearless Leader

Assholes for Jesus. This is the sort of thing that gives Christians a bad name.

Assholes for Jesus, isn’t that Bryan Fischer’s PAC?

357 Skip Intro  Jul 22, 2014 10:46:46am

re: #335 Lidane

Conservative Columnist Asks God To Remove Obama From Office

RWNJs have been begging for God to smite Obama since 2008. Hasn’t happened yet. Once again, The Almighty is slacking.

I love how these far right Christian religious lunatics constantly invoke the threats in the Hebrew bible while ignoring the New Covenant proclaimed by the person they claim to worship.

358 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 10:46:51am

re: #355 HappyWarrior

These are the people who complain about any taxes yet expect us to build a larger replica of the Berlin Wall on our southern border. ……….. Remind me again why conservatives are the fiscally responsible ones again.

Oh, they have a way around that…It’s a SNAP.

359 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 10:46:57am

re: #345 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Wait, they made that one too?

Well, aside from the fake trailer, not yet, but I do recall Rob Zombie said he’d shot enough footage to make about a 70-minute film out of it.

Pretty cool! I’d love to see it!

360 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 10:47:29am

re: #355 HappyWarrior

These are the people who complain about any taxes yet expect us to build a larger replica of the Berlin Wall on our southern border. ……….. Remind me again why conservatives are the fiscally responsible ones again.

What do you mean? Just abolish the Department of Education, the EPA, OSHA and a few more superfluous federal agencies and it will still leave room for a tax cut to pay for the increased prices for vegetables and gardening/housekeeping services.

361 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 10:49:50am

A bit of a hitch:

Breaking News Richard Galpin, BBC News, Kharkiv

The head of the Dutch forensics team, police officer Jain Tuinder, says the train which arrived in Kharkiv today contains 200 bodies, significantly less than that claimed by the rebels.

bbc.com

362 Kragar  Jul 22, 2014 10:52:19am
363 makeitstop  Jul 22, 2014 10:52:25am

re: #361 Dr Lizardo

A bit of a hitch:

bbc.com

I heard a report last night that said they were still finding body parts in the wreckage.

365 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 10:57:44am

re: #364 Lidane

Responsible gun ownership:

TX man shoots self hitching up shorts in store: ‘It’s dangerous to stick a gun in your pants’

Did he see something brown down there before, or after, he shot himself?
Just askin’
//

366 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 10:58:04am

re: #361 Dr Lizardo

Investigators found that the cockpit and other components were sawn in half.

International monitors who have finally gained full access to the Malaysia Airlines crash site in eastern Ukraine said Tuesday the Boeing 777’s cockpit inexplicably had been sawed in half while under the control of Russian-backed separates.

The monitors said they are not sure why the major piece of evidence from the downed plane was tampered with.

Flight 17, carrying 283 passengers and 15 crew members, crashed Thursday after being hit by what U.S. officials suspect was a surface-to-air missile launched from an area controlled by Russian-backed separatists.

The separatists and Russia have denied shooting down the plane, which was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.

The cockpit was found in a section of the crash site that had been immediately cordoned off during the first two days after the plane went down. Witnesses tell USA TODAY that this was also the area where the first bodies were removed.

The cockpit apparently was cut in half with diesel-powered saws.

“The rear part of the aircraft, one of the biggest intact pieces, has definitely been hacked into,” said Michael Bociurkiw, spokesman for the group of international monitors from the Organize for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE).

Missing remains (otherwise known as promising X and delivering far fewer than that on this train shipment). That would still leave quite a few remains that have yet to be recovered from the crash site. It also doesn’t address where/how they were found, all of which plays into the reconstruction of the crash and events leading up.

The remains could potentially show signs of different forms of trauma - blunt force from the crash on impact, or that some died when the missile warhead shredded the plane, etc. But because this was all done haphazardly, those kinds of details may not be available.

367 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 10:58:27am

re: #364 Lidane

Responsible gun ownership:

TX man shoots self hitching up shorts in store: ‘It’s dangerous to stick a gun in your pants’

Great Unanswered Questions of XXI Cent Journalism:

Why were his shorts down in a convenience store?

368 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 11:00:58am

re: #367 Decatur Deb

Great Unanswered Questions of XXI Cent Journalism:

Why were his shorts down in a convenience store?

He’d untied them from the hitching post?
/ ;P

369 Skip Intro  Jul 22, 2014 11:01:00am

re: #364 Lidane

No charges filed for carrying while stupid.

Of course, this is Texas. Now Florida will have to come up with something even stupider.

370 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 11:01:51am

re: #369 Skip Intro

No charges filed for carrying while stupid.

Of course, this is Texas. Now Florida will have to come up with something even stupider.

(Homer mode)
Florida Man, Florida Man. Does whatever a…
Florida Man can.
(/Homer mode)

371 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 11:01:55am
372 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 11:03:27am

TN Republican admits he can’t prove his anti-Muslim smears against Democratic rival

The Tennesseean newspaper challenged Kelly to list specific incidents where Mohyuddin has disrespected the U.S. flag or Christian Bible and he was “was unable to cite any specific instance when Mohyuddin made such statements.” Rather, he claimed, he “heard it during private conversations” with his Democratic rival.

Mohyuddin told the News that the only private conversation he has ever had with Kelly took place 25 years ago when his family bought a house through Kelly’s real estate agent wife.

“He helped me move 25 years ago, right after I had bought my house through his wife, but we weren’t talking about politics way back then,” he said.

Kelly said that Mohyuddin must be misremembering.

373 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 11:03:49am

re: #366 lawhawk

My guess is that they were looking for the black boxes.

374 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 11:04:31am

re: #372 Lidane

Proof is overrated. Go with the gut.

375 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 11:04:45am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

Think so too.

376 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 11:05:44am

Scheiße

377 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 11:06:12am

Any saw marks on the plane can be definitely blamed on langoliers…

378 HappyWarrior  Jul 22, 2014 11:06:42am

re: #372 Lidane

TN Republican admits he can’t prove his anti-Muslim smears against Democratic rival

When in doubt, go for the Islamaphobia. But the Republicans are re-branding or so they say.

379 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 11:06:43am

re: #371 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

[Embedded content]

Yes, indeed….keeping out those unpleasant things like Facebook, Wikipedia, YouTube, Google, etc. from contaminating the Russian people.

That’s pretty blatant. Disturbingly so. It’s obviously means they’re advertising that their service will prevent anything from getting through that might serve to counter the official line of the Kremlin.

*spit*

380 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 11:07:49am

re: #379 Dr Lizardo

Yes, indeed….keeping out those unpleasant things like Facebook, Wikipedia, YouTube, Google, etc. from contaminating the Russian people.

That’s pretty blatant. Disturbingly so. It’s obviously means they’re advertising that their service will prevent anything from getting through that might serve to counter the official line of the Kremlin.

*spit*

And that guys in riot gear swinging truncheons are a good thing…

381 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 11:08:54am

re: #379 Dr Lizardo

Yes, indeed….keeping out those unpleasant things like Facebook, Wikipedia, YouTube, Google, etc. from contaminating the Russian people.

That’s pretty blatant. Disturbingly so. It’s obviously means they’re advertising that their service will prevent anything from getting through that might serve to counter the official line of the Kremlin.

*spit*

Does it come with the Snowden “Dudebro Seal of Approval”?

382 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 11:09:03am

re: #380 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And that guys in riot gear swinging truncheons are a good thing…

Yeah……..how could I forget that?

////

Russia is clearly an authoritarian state, and I’d daresay it won’t be much longer before it becomes outright totalitarian state - if it isn’t already.

383 Kragar  Jul 22, 2014 11:09:50am
384 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 11:10:31am

re: #382 Dr Lizardo

Yeah……..how could I forget that?

////

Russia is clearly an authoritarian state, and I’d daresay it won’t be much longer before it becomes outright totalitarian state - if it isn’t already.

I understand now why the USSR was allowed to fall apart into chaos in 1991…after a few years of it, the people welcomed anyone who promised law, order and pride in the Fatherland.

385 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 11:10:38am

re: #379 Dr Lizardo

The ad, as well as the service itself, are obviously tongue in cheek (the slogan is “Feel the taste of the brave new world already today.”). The problem is, of course, that’s that’s exactly what Putin wants.

386 RealityBasedSteve  Jul 22, 2014 11:11:46am

re: #383 Kragar

[Embedded content]

That’s totally different because SHUTUP!!!

RBS

387 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 11:11:56am

re: #385 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The ad, as well as the service itself, are obviously tongue in cheek (the slogan is “Feel the taste of the brave new world already today.”). The problem is, of course, that’s that’s exactly what Putin wants.

It also promises to filter out “dubious and illegal content”, which basically means “anything that contradicts the Kremlin line”.

388 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 11:12:13am

re: #385 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The ad, as well as the service itself, are obviously tongue in cheek (the slogan is “Feel the taste of the brave new world already today.”). The problem is, of course, that’s that’s exactly what Putin wants.

Yep. And not just Putin, to be sure. Far too many in Russia, it seems, have a clear taste for dictatorial government.

389 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 11:12:38am

re: #384 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I understand now why the USSR was allowed to fall apart into chaos in 1991…after a few years of it, the people welcomed anyone who promised law, order and pride in the Fatherland.

It was allowed because nobody could do anything about it, not because of some non-existent dark conspiracy.

390 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 11:13:03am

re: #387 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It also promises to filter out “dubious and illegal content”, which basically means “anything that contradicts the Kremlin line”.

That “and” is important. That means the Kremlin’s dubious but legal content is allowed through.
/

391 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 11:13:33am

re: #387 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It also promises to filter out “dubious and illegal content”, which basically means “anything that contradicts the Kremlin line”.

Well, again, it’s satire (although a “real life” satire).

392 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 11:15:00am
393 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 11:17:06am

Thought it would be self-explaining, but Poe’s law works always. ;)

394 CriticalDragon1177  Jul 22, 2014 11:17:07am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Great post! I really like the idea of staying on Hoft and his xenophobic insanity, because his BS is getting heavily promoted by right wing media, and he’s causing serious harm to real people.

I wonder if Fox News was embarrassed enough by having to retract that $50M resort lie that they’ll think twice about pushing another Hoft fable? (Probably not.)

I agree. Hoft has only shown us once again that he’s a paranoid bigot. Unfortunately too many people still respect people like him.

395 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 11:17:51am

re: #392 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I wonder how the RWNJs would react if Putin started arming the Mexican cartels.
////

396 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 11:17:54am

re: #389 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

It was allowed because nobody could do anything about it, not because of some non-existent dark conspiracy.

I was there back then and I am not sure of that, really. I got the feeling that they intentionally wanted to get the people riled up and insecure so that they would welcome Law and Order.

So many questions were left open, like the status of Russian minorities living outside Russia, questions of assets and infrastructure - the very things that are at the heart of the current conflict in the Ukraine.

Resolving them then would have meant doing so at Russia’s disadvantage. Now they can do so from a position of strength.

397 CuriousLurker  Jul 22, 2014 11:17:58am

re: #376 Pie-onist Overlord

Scheiße

[Embedded content]

I can’t tell you how weird it is to be reading about European antisemitism in the Middle Ages and then opening up my browser and seeing the SOS in 2014.

399 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2014 11:18:58am

heh…

400 Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 22, 2014 11:19:36am

re: #397 CuriousLurker

I can’t tell you how weird it is to be reading about European antisemitism in the Middle Ages and then opening up my browser and seeing the SOS in 2014.

Same goals and thus constant recycling of the same attacks and charges. And note how neatly a bunch of antisemitism got recycled into anti-Muslim rhetoric in the last 50-100 years.

401 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 11:20:04am

Not linking, but Freep has announced its next Derpmobile Expeditionary
Force deployment. It’s off to the Texas border this time, to spread the unique blend of Freeper calm.

402 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 11:20:30am

re: #396 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Sorry, CTs are always the last and the worst explanation. The simple fact is that nobody could have stopped the centrifugal forces working at the time, when one republic was declaring independence after another.

403 Lidane  Jul 22, 2014 11:21:42am

re: #401 Decatur Deb

Not linking, but Freep has announced its next Derpmobile Expeditionary
Force deployment. It’s off to the Texas border this time, to spread the unique blend of Freeper calm.

Chances of an American child getting shot by an RWNJ for looking illegal just increased exponentially.

404 lawhawk  Jul 22, 2014 11:22:15am

re: #383 Kragar

405 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 22, 2014 11:23:00am

re: #397 CuriousLurker

Note however, that this particular brand of antisemitism that we see in these videos is not indigenous but rather imported.

406 Pie-onist Overlord  Jul 22, 2014 11:23:19am

I’m surprised it took so long for this to show on on Teh Twitters:

407 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 11:25:24am

re: #402 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Sorry, CTs are always the last and the worst explanation. The simple fact is that nobody could have stopped the centrifugal forces working at the time, when one republic was declaring independence after another.

Remember, Putin and his cronies were middle-echelon henchmen back then. I think they saw the long game option and stuck with it.

I remember having a discussion with a colleague who still retained his Communist Party Card. I asked him why he would want to remain associated with an organization that had failed on such a grand and historic scale.

He looked at me very Putin-esquely and simply said “Myi pobyedím”. (We will prevail)

I think that a lot could have been done to resolve the issues back then, but there were people on both sides who saw an interest in letting chaos reign for a few years before sending in a hero on horseback to restore Law and Order.

408 CuriousLurker  Jul 22, 2014 11:26:36am

re: #400 Feline Fearless Leader

Same goals and thus constant recycling of the same attacks and charges. And note how neatly a bunch of antisemitism got recycled into anti-Muslim rhetoric in the last 50-100 years.

That last part makes it even worse. There are Muslims participating in this crap along with whatever local scum is taking advantage of the opportunity. Do they not realize that these haters will turn on them the same way they’re turning on the Jews & with the same tactics?

Those Muslims are as stupid & blinded by their hatred as Pamela Geller thinking her EDL pals aren’t antisemites who would turn on her in a heartbeat.

409 alpuz  Jul 22, 2014 11:28:04am

re: #364 Lidane

Guns don’t shoot balls of steel, people do.

410 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 22, 2014 11:28:51am

re: #392 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

If Putin can arm rebels, why can’t we arm Ukraine?

The breakup of the USSR left the Ukraine in possession of the fifth-largest nuclear arsenal in the world.

They disarmed unilaterally against guarantees from the West to help maintain their territorial integrity.

Since we have reneged on that end of the deal, is it not only fair that we return their nukes?

/

411 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 22, 2014 11:30:14am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

Any saw marks on the plane can be definitely blamed on langoliers…

Just another example of the book being better than the movie.

412 William Barnett-Lewis  Jul 22, 2014 11:32:13am

re: #383 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Just means all free citizens & a modicum of training. See how little the Militia Acts of 1792 actually required while the FF’s were writing legislation to enact their constitution. Anti-gun people don’t want to go there despite what they think.

413 sagehen  Jul 22, 2014 11:35:26am

re: #335 Lidane

Conservative Columnist Asks God To Remove Obama From Office

RWNJs have been begging for God to smite Obama since 2008. Hasn’t happened yet. Once again, The Almighty is slacking.

God responds, “I will remove him from office in January 2017. Tell everyone, I promise.”

414 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 11:35:56am

Of interest to Freep:

Border official points gun at Boy Scout

kcci.com

1. Not that border.
2. Seems legit, needs verification.

415 Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2014 11:37:18am

This is an interesting development:

Senior US senators are asking President Barack Obama to introduce tougher measures against Russia and to consider putting Ukrainian separatist group “Donetsk People’s Republic” on a US terror blacklist. In a letter, Bob Menendez, Dianne Feinstein and Carl Levin said Russia’s defence, energy and finance sectors should be targeted.

bbc.com

416 Franklin Brewsevelt  Jul 22, 2014 11:40:57am

re: #414 Decatur Deb

Of interest to Freep:

Border official points gun at Boy Scout

kcci.com

1. Not that border.
2. Seems legit, needs verification.

From the article:

When he thinks about what happened to them and the fact there are people streaming across the southern border, Fox is outraged.

Read more: kcci.com

Fox is the troop leader. Is he saying that the border patrol should be concentrating their detainment efforts (up to and including holding children at gunpoint) to the southern border?

417 wrenchwench  Jul 22, 2014 11:44:30am

re: #416 Franklin Brewsevelt

From the article:

Fox is the troop leader. Is he saying that the border patrol should be concentrating their detainment efforts (up to and including holding children at gunpoint) to the southern border?

I copied the same sentence, wondering about the interpretation. Could mean anything from ‘the Alaskan border doesn’t need this, send all border guards south’ to ‘those poor Central Americans, just let them all in’.

418 Decatur Deb  Jul 22, 2014 12:06:54pm

re: #417 wrenchwench

I copied the same sentence, wondering about the interpretation. Could mean anything from ‘the Alaskan border doesn’t need this, send all border guards south’ to ‘those poor Central Americans, just let them all in’.

“But officer, they were all speeding.”

419 CuriousLurker  Jul 22, 2014 12:11:16pm

re: #405 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Note however, that this particular brand of antisemitism that we see in these videos is not indigenous but rather imported.

I’m not sure what difference that makes, if any. All types of bigotry/hatred are based on lies, stereotypes, etc. that are used to dehumanize the hated group and make them The Other. I’m pretty sure the native antisemites wouldn’t hesitate to jump aboard, the same way the EDL does with Geller’s Islamophobia.

“The enemy of my enemy is my friend,” and all that.

420 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jul 22, 2014 12:36:07pm

re: #406 Pie-onist Overlord
I was in Navy boot camp at the time of the attack on the USS Liberty. The killing of Navy personnel was powerfully felt, across the Navy.

I learned a lot about governments, militaries, and lies—including repeated first person experiences during three tours in Vietnam — during the next four and a half years — including witnessing a wink-wink log entry by our commanding officer on the first day in the war zone, indicating that someone on shore fired something at us. Because of that lie 500 men got hazardous duty for that month.

The lies got bigger the higher up the chain of command, in my experience, and I hobnobbed with some biggies, including the only senior officer, an Air Force general, who received formal punishment stemming from his command responsibilities in Vietnam IIRC. (Not saying he, specifically, lied.)

That memory and those feelings have caused me to read the equivalent of thousands of pages of reports, documents, and opinions. I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories, but I am not comfortable with the official report. It sets off my bullshit alert. IMHO, someone got away with something.

421 Jolo5309  Jul 22, 2014 12:54:41pm

re: #410 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The breakup of the USSR left the Ukraine in possession of the fifth-largest nuclear arsenal in the world.

They disarmed unilaterally against guarantees from the West to help maintain their territorial integrity.

Since we have reneged on that end of the deal, is it not only fair that we return their nukes?

/

Doesn’t the US have a ton of Abrams mothballed someplace?

422 CuriousLurker  Jul 22, 2014 1:06:23pm

re: #420 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

That memory and those feelings have caused me to read the equivalent of thousands of pages of reports, documents, and opinions. I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories, but I am not comfortable with the official report. It sets off my bullshit alert. IMHO, someone got away with something.

That’s extremely vague. Why even bring it up at all if you’re not going to be more specific? Who “got away with” what? Are you asserting the Israelis lied and the U.S. covered up for them at every level?

What reports did you read? What documents? Whose opinions? Which “official report” are you uncomfortable with? According to Wikipedia there were multiple U.S. government investigations.

423 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jul 22, 2014 2:01:58pm

re: #420 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Welcome home, brother. One tour with the Brown Water Navy (CTF116, based at NSAD, Binh Thuy).


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