Tuesday Night Jam: The Oh Hellos, NPR Tiny Desk Concert

A new folk music ensemble
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December 8, 2015 by BOB BOILEN
When The Oh Hellos piled out of a van at NPR, someone remarked that it was like a clown car: Band members just kept coming, including brother and sister Tyler and Maggie Heath and their mom. They were all road-weary, trading sniffles, coughs and more. But the nine-piece group brought anthemic joy to the Tiny Desk in the form of buoyant songs whose underpinnings could still be dark and lonely.

Some of the music here is from The Oh Hellos’ recent second album, Dear Wormwood, which was inspired in part by the writings of C.S. Lewis; it’s about a protagonist who doubts a relationship before finding the resolve to never look back. Still, for all the deep sentiment, the band brings the same jubilant energy it brought to its performance at the Newport Folk Festival in July — even now that summer fun has given way to winter germs. Fortunately, the only contagion you’ll encounter here is joy.

Dear Wormwood is available now.
iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/dear-wormwood/id1030840451
Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B013WO8KA2/?tag=littlegreenfo-20

Set List
“Hello My Old Heart” 00:00
“Like The Dawn” 05:43
“Exeunt” 12:54

Credits
Producers: Bob Boilen, Morgan Walker; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Walker, Julia Reihs; Production Assistant: Kate Drozynski; Photo by Jun Tsuboike/NPR

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504 comments
1
Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 8, 2015 • 8:40:29pm

Charles, is there an NPR Tiny Desk acct on twitter? I’m sure I’ve tweeted them before, but cannot locate.

Edit. So lame, I looked it up. @nprmusic

2
Scout  Dec 8, 2015 • 8:41:13pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump is kicking himself now for not faking a “come to Jesus” conversion around five or 10 years ago.

If he could claim during this election cycle that he’s a born-again, and get into all that fundamentalist crap, he’d have already locked up the nomination.

3
teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2015 • 8:42:51pm
4
SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 8, 2015 • 8:47:02pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

That was a terrific segment.

5
bratwurst  Dec 8, 2015 • 8:48:17pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 8, 2015 • 8:51:51pm

Color me unsurprised.

Smith & Wesson triples profits in three months to October
bbc.com

Third quarter earnings were $14.2 million, almost three times more than 3Q 2014.

And we wonder why?

Following the latest shooting in the US that saw at least 14 people killed after gunmen attacked a community centre in San Bernardino, US President Barack Obama said the country must make it harder for potential attackers to obtain guns.

Demands for tougher legislation, however, are constantly met with much anger from pro-gun civil libertarians. Analysts say the argument is complicated.

“The [number one] driver of firearms sales is fear,” Brian Ruttenbur, an analyst at BB&T Capital Markets, told Bloomberg.

“Primarily, fear of registration restrictions, banning and things like that,” he said.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 8, 2015 • 8:54:58pm

Fear, the greatest money maker ever.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 8, 2015 • 8:58:07pm

re: #6 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

“pro-gun civil libertarians”

That’s an interesting term for them.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:01:26pm

re: #7 Stanley Sea Toujours

Fear, the greatest money maker ever.

It’s the right wing’s primary marketing tool.

10
Reality Based Steve  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:08:03pm

The greatest trick the Devil RWNJs ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist. they meant well.

RBS

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Lidane  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:08:26pm

Circular firing squad, female GOP hacks edition:

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:09:21pm

Good heavens! I should have remembered this, but here’s 9 minutes of Karen Carpenter

Karen Carpenter: Kickass Drummer (Drum Solos)

Playing drums.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:10:47pm

Carole King, recipient of Kennedy Center Honor.

I’m checking her videos now.

I was a kid listening to my Dad’s LP.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:13:07pm

re: #13 Stanley Sea Toujours

Carole King, recipient of Kennedy Center Honor.

I’m checking her videos now.

I was a kid listening to my Dad’s LP.

Tapestry?

15
freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:14:25pm

Slowly but surely, the machine will bow to the hate-industry:

Some big GOP players say Trump has a point

While many in the GOP are fiercely condemning Donald Trump for his proposal to temporarily ban all Muslims from entering the U.S., a whole lot of other Republicans are saying, hey, he has a point.

From established party figures such as Ted Cruz and Rick Santorum to more hard-core right-wing personalities such as Ann Coulter, numerous Republicans are either stopping short of condemning Trump’s audacious proposal or are outright applauding the billionaire businessman as finally offering a common-sense solution to terrorism threats.

[…]

Of course they are. Trump felt the pulse of the Teabonics crowd, and knows that playing on their fears and hatred is a winning business.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:14:32pm

re: #11 Lidane

Just wow! An actual Trump spokesperson said that.

“No one’s talking about allowing insurgents,” Cupp countered. “You’re talking about not allowing regular Muslims.”

“Yes, from Arab nations,” Pierson replied. “You know what? So what? They’re Muslim!”

I mean, it’s not like they’re human beings or anything.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:15:28pm

re: #14 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Tapestry?

Yeppers. I extremely recall “So Far Away” as we left him. (divorced kids, summer visit)

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:16:56pm

So, what’s the chance that by next week’s “debate” the ban-the-Muslims policy will be seen as a “legitimate option for discussion”??

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bratwurst  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:17:36pm

re: #11 Lidane

Circular firing squad, female GOP hacks edition:

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I posed my Twitter reaction to this segment earlier:

This brand of television has become unwatchable to me. People here have been ragging on the news that the Mark Halperin/John Heilemann “With All Due Respect” show will be seen on MSNBC next year. I have issues with Halperin, but they do a show with long form interviews where people of diverse politics get to explain themselves without immediately allowing equal time for an opposing viewpoint. It is a far cry from the garbage Tapper pats himself on the back for regularly.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:19:30pm

I confess that I shy away from folk music because it’s often so emotional that it upsets me. I get moved and I think of sad things and I have to take this kind of music in small doses.

This is different, though. I feel immediately compelled to hop on iTunes and buy their albums. They are great. Clean, deep, not over-produced, and very genuine. Refreshing and Satisfying, like some kind of hipster-ish folksy cola. :D

Earlier I was listening to Front Line Assembly and Wumpscut, now I’m looking back at my most recent album buys and I’ve got Midnight Oil, First Aid Kit, Marina and The Diamonds, and Florence and The Machine. I listen to dark techno stuff all day at work but maybe I’m more folksy than I want to admit.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:19:36pm

I’m out. Night Lizards

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:19:36pm

re: #17 Stanley Sea Toujours

Yeppers. I extremely recall “So Far Away” as we left him. (divorced kids, summer visit)

I had it on cassette. One of my faves during high school and college. That same song you mention was one I shared with my then-girlfriend when I was NY and she in Iowa.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:22:08pm

re: #20 Pawn of the Oppressor

I confess that I shy away from folk music because it’s often so emotional that it upsets me. I get moved and I think of sad things and I have to take this kind of music in small doses.

This is different, though. I feel immediately compelled to hop on iTunes and buy their albums. They are great. Clean, deep, not over-produced, and very genuine. Refreshing and Satisfying, like some kind of hipster-ish folksy cola. :D

Earlier I was listening to Front Line Assembly and Wumpscut, now I’m looking back at my most recent album buys and I’ve got Midnight Oil, First Aid Kit, Marina and The Diamonds, and Florence and The Machine. I listen to dark techno stuff all day at work but maybe I’m more folksy than I want to admit.

We’ll recruit you for the Special Operations unit of the Folk Song Army.

popscreen.com

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:22:17pm

re: #11 Lidane

Circular firing squad, female GOP hacks edition:

[Embedded content]

Cupp’s a hack but she’s right on this one and she makes clear The Donald is very wrong.

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bratwurst  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:23:15pm

re: #15 freetoken

Slowly but surely, the machine will bow to the hate-industry:

Some big GOP players say Trump has a point

Of course they are. Trump felt the pulse of the Teabonics crowd, and knows that playing on their fears and hatred is a winning business.

Certainly not at all surprised the other top tier candidates haven’t gone much further than “disagreeing” with Trump. It is easy for Lindsay Graham to blow a gasket because he literally has nothing to lose. It is sad that nobody with a better chance of being nominated than Graham has gone half as far to condemn Trump’s “modest proposal”.

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:23:43pm

Meanwhile, elsewhere:

US, UK ambassadors fall foul of Thailand’s junta

[…]

The Obama administration’s newly installed ambassador Glyn T. Davies is being investigated for criticizing Thailand’s strict lese majeste laws at a Foreign Correspondents’ Club of Thailand (FCCT) event last month.

The BBC’s Southeast Asia correspondent Jonathan Head confirmed Wednesday on Twitter that the FCCT has been asked to cooperate with authorities’ investigation into Davies’ comments.

Just nine weeks into his Bangkok posting, the U.S. ambassador told the sell-out FCCT event: “We’re also concerned by the lengthy and unprecedented prison sentences handed down by Thai military courts against civilians for violating the lese majeste law.”

[…]

Democracy is pretty fragile in many places in the world.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:31:01pm

re: #26 freetoken

Meanwhile, elsewhere:

US, UK ambassadors fall foul of Thailand’s junta

Democracy is pretty fragile in many places in the world.

Thailand was once a place I’d consider living in, but the current military junta has ruined that idea — maybe for good. It’s a lovely country with wonderful people, but the current government is trying to become a military dictatorship. The king is frail and will die within a few years, and his eldest son is a playboy with no apparent interest in ruling. Lese majeste means no one is free to discuss publicly the king’s health or the succession dilemma, for fear of imprisonment — or worse. The junta has also boosted the political indoctrination in the schools, preparing for the future, I suppose.

Thailand has militia problems in the north (maoists, mostly) and in the south (Islamists, mostly), and there have been rumors of ISIS targeting Russians recently. So, the political picture is not very rosy.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:31:29pm

re: #25 bratwurst

Certainly not at all surprised the other top tier candidates haven’t gone much further than “disagreeing” with Trump. It is easy for Lindsay Graham to blow a gasket because he literally has nothing to lose. It is sad that nobody with a better chance of being nominated than Graham has gone half as far to condemn Trump’s “modest proposal”.

Rubio went after him I thought: “I disagree with Donald Trump’s latest proposal. His habit of making offensive and outlandish statements will not bring Americans together”.

So did Kasich: “The plan is just more of the ‘outrageous divisiveness that characterizes his every breath.”

But it was Paul Ryan who really smacked Trump, calling his idea: “Not what this party stands for and more importantly it’s not what this country stands for.”

And know folks here don’t like Dick Cheney, but you’ll like his reply to Trump: “I think this whole notion that we can just say no more Muslims, and just ban a whole religion goes against everything we stand for and believe in.”

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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:33:16pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Cupp’s a hack but she’s right on this one and she makes clear The Donald is very wrong.

There is a first time for everything. Every time I see “S. E. Cupp” my brain translates it as “sippy cup”.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:33:24pm

re: #23 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

We’ll recruit you for the Special Operations unit of the Folk Song Army.

popscreen.com

My favorite protest song:

Hugh Laurie’s Protest Song - A Bit of Fry and Laurie - BBC

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:33:40pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

Rubio went after him I thought: “I disagree with Donald Trump’s latest proposal. His habit of making offensive and outlandish statements will not bring Americans together”.

So did Kasich: “The plan is just more of the ‘outrageous divisiveness that characterizes his every breath.”

But it was Paul Ryan who really smacked Trump, calling his idea: “Not what this party stands for and more importantly it’s not what this country stands for.”

And know folks here don’t like Dick Cheney, but you’ll like his reply to Trump: “I think this whole notion that we can just say no more Muslims, and just ban a whole religion goes against everything we stand for and believe in.”

Someone needs to say it’s just plain unconstitutional. It violates freedom of religion and due process, to begin with.

32
teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:34:07pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

A third of your party is not listening to any of those people.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:34:28pm

Minnesota, Wisconsin diverge as Twin Cities outpace northern peers

One of the biggest differences between the economies of Wisconsin and Minnesota is the thriving Minneapolis-St. Paul metro area, which drives Minnesota’s economy, a new study from Wisconsin Taxpayers Alliance says.

The report, titled “Two State Economies, One Rare Metro,” compares Wisconsin and Minnesota in various categories including job growth and the mix of industries in each state.

The two economies, once similar, have been diverging for a long time, said Dale Knapp, research director for the nonpartisan Wisconsin Taxpayers Alliance, based in Madison.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:35:35pm

re: #33 Amory Blaine

Gee, I wonder why Wisconsin is falling behind … /

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:37:19pm

CUCK RINO

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:37:24pm

re: #33 Amory Blaine

Just call it the Walker Effect.

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:37:37pm

Meanwhile, Dr. Ben is beginning to seem more and more like a cult:

Share Dr. Carson’s unifying and inspirational message of how #TheseHands are shaping America. Together, We the People…

Posted by Dr. Ben Carson on Tuesday, December 8, 2015
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:37:40pm

Take a moment to go over and gander at Michael Ian Black’s timeline. He’s describing Trump supporters on a case by case basis.

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bratwurst  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:40:34pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

Rubio went after him I thought: “I disagree with Donald Trump’s latest proposal. His habit of making offensive and outlandish statements will not bring Americans together”.

So did Kasich: “The plan is just more of the ‘outrageous divisiveness that characterizes his every breath.”

But it was Paul Ryan who really smacked Trump, calling his idea: “Not what this party stands for and more importantly it’s not what this country stands for.”

And know folks here don’t like Dick Cheney, but you’ll like his reply to Trump: “I think this whole notion that we can just say no more Muslims, and just ban a whole religion goes against everything we stand for and believe in.”

I give full credit to Cheney & Ryan. Neither had to do such a thing, but there they were.

Rubio get a failing grade from me. Exactly as I said, he mostly just “disagrees”. I am waiting for someone with a legitimate chance to win the nomination denounce this disgusting business the way Graham, Cheney and Ryan did. Rubio also seems a bit hazy on the whole freedom of religion thing himself.

While I have to admit Kasich was ready to compare Trump to Hitler even before I was, he has no legitimate chance to be nominated.

You can applaud the GOP condemnation of Trump all night long, but until a LEGITIMATE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE takes the same tone with Trump that Paul Ryan did (full condemnation without a hint of “but Obama…” about it), I will not be in the least bit impressed. Maybe one of them will grow up by the debate next week, but I am not holding my breath.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:41:32pm

re: #31 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Someone needs to say it’s just plain unconstitutional. It violates freedom of religion and due process, to begin with.

People trying to immigrate to the US don’t have 1st Amendment protections till they actually come here. It does not violate the Constitution to tell a non-resident alien “We don’t like your religion, so you can’t live here.” But it is deeply offensive to American ideals, and it would cruel and wrong to put such a plan into practice.

Please understand that I’m not trying to give myself an ‘out’ to support Donald Trump. I will not vote for Trump for president, period. But I do not know how a ban on allowed entry into the US by Muslims who are not citizen or permanent residents would violate the Constitution.

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:42:22pm

re: #39 bratwurst

Rubio is still maneuvering for the Teabonic vote, as he thinks he can be the candidate and will need them.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:44:49pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

Rubio went after him I thought: “I disagree with Donald Trump’s latest proposal. His habit of making offensive and outlandish statements will not bring Americans together”.

So did Kasich: “The plan is just more of the ‘outrageous divisiveness that characterizes his every breath.”

But it was Paul Ryan who really smacked Trump, calling his idea: “Not what this party stands for and more importantly it’s not what this country stands for.”

And know folks here don’t like Dick Cheney, but you’ll like his reply to Trump: “I think this whole notion that we can just say no more Muslims, and just ban a whole religion goes against everything we stand for and believe in.”

Those are all fairly tepid responses to abject fascism in my opinion. The fact is that GOP politics requires those candidates to tiptoe around the issue rather than confronting it and naming it head on, which is ironic considering how eager they all are to condemn Obama for not blaming “Islam” per se for ISIS inspired jihadist terrorism.

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bratwurst  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:44:54pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

Please understand that I’m not trying to give myself an ‘out’ to support Donald Trump. I will not vote for Trump for president, period.

You are also on record stating you won’t vote for Ted Cruz either…so you might well have a lot of free time on your hands next fall.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:47:24pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

People trying to immigrate to the US don’t have 1st Amendment protections till they actually come here. It does not violate the Constitution to tell a non-resident alien “We don’t like your religion, so you can’t live here.”

Yes, it does. The 1st Amendment prohibits the government from enacting laws and policies respecting an establishment of religion. What you’re describing is a grotesque violation of that principal.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:51:17pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

Yes, it does. The 1st Amendment prohibits the government from enacting laws and policies respecting an establishment of religion. What you’re describing is a grotesque violation of that principal.

How so? Excluding one religion does not in-and-of-itself establish another.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:51:23pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

People trying to immigrate to the US don’t have 1st Amendment protections till they actually come here. It does not violate the Constitution to tell a non-resident alien “We don’t like your religion, so you can’t live here.” But it is deeply offensive to American ideals, and it would cruel and wrong to put such a plan into practice.

Please understand that I’m not trying to give myself an ‘out’ to support Donald Trump. I will not vote for Trump for president, period. But I do not know how a ban on allowed entry into the US by Muslims who are not citizen or permanent residents would violate the Constitution.

Well, true, but Trump has also proposed seizing property of Muslim families and shutting down mosques. Now he says we should just bar Muslims from entering the country. His next step down the path would be to ship everyone already here out. he hasn’t said it, but there are plenty of his supporters who have.

As for the religion angle, it would make for an interesting SCOTUS case if an immigrant with family in the States filed a civil rights suit if he/she were barred from entering because of religion.

I’m hoping the GOP backlash gains in strength, because Trump has tapped into the ugly side of conservatism. It’s well past time for the GOP to hand him his walking papers, and just accept the probability they will lose in this next election cycle. The GOP needs to think of the future of the USA if it doesn’t nip Trump’s neo-fascism in the bud.

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:51:31pm

Here are three people acting like they really believe they can be the GOP candidate for President:
Trump
Cruz
Rubio

Here’s a guy who acts like he can be the nominee because he lives in a delusional religious bubble in his head:
Carson

Here’s a guy who acts like he can be the nominee because he lives in a gilded bubble:
Bush

The rest are acting like people who are looking for a well paid career as a TV pundit.

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bratwurst  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:53:45pm

re: #47 freetoken

Here are three people acting like they really believe they can be the GOP candidate for President:
Trump
Cruz
Rubio

Here’s a guy who acts like he can be the nominee because he lives in a delusional religious bubble in his head:
Carson

Here’s a guy who acts like he can be the nominee because he lives in a gilded bubble:
Bush

The rest are acting like people who are looking for a well paid career as a TV pundit.

That was extremely well put.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:54:06pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:55:07pm

Time to teach young minds. BBL.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:57:37pm

re: #29 BlueSpotinAL

There is a first time for everything. Every time I see “S. E. Cupp” my brain translates it as “sippy cup”.

You’ve had kids, I can tell. I be smrt. //

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:57:58pm

re: #13 Stanley Sea Toujours

Carole King, recipient of Kennedy Center Honor.

I’m checking her videos now.

I was a kid listening to my Dad’s LP.

I was an adult listening to my own (get off my lawn!)

Love Carole King. Trivia—she played a music store owner on Gilmore Girls. (Her song, Where You Lead, was the theme song for the show.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:58:46pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

How so? Excluding one religion does not in-and-of-itself establish another.

Here’s my problem with this whole fucking mess:

Exactly what’s to stop a Muslim from saying they are Christian or Buddhist or some other damned thing to get around these stupid rules? What criteria will you have for identifying someone as a Muslim to exclude them from immigrating?

I am Christian but I don’t carry an ID card in my wallet or have any identifying marks on my body indicating as such nor by asking me could you prove my faith because I could lie and there’s no way you could prove I was lying.

That’s the biggest problem in the war on terror, the one that threatens our freedoms the most: It’s pretty damned hard to figure out who the enemy is.

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 9:59:05pm

re: #48 bratwurst

You can tell what these folks really believe by how they respond to questions and publicity. As you and others have put, the reason Graham and Kasich can go after Trump so strongly is that they know they will really not be the nominee and thus they really don’t need the Teabonic vote. These are career politicians just making their resumes longer by “running for President”. Maybe they think they can be picked as VP or a cabinet position. I’m pretty certain that Graham would love to be SoS or SoD. Kasich would take any cabinet job but probably wants Treasury.

That Cruz and even Rubio are bowing before Teabonic ugliness shows that they know they really need to get these folk as part of their ground force.

Meanwhile, Carson makes videos about how his hands have the power to heal.

Jeb! is probably eating some fancy, chef-y meal.

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:00:53pm

re: #15 freetoken

Slowly but surely, the machine will bow to the hate-industry:

Some big GOP players say Trump has a point

Of course they are. Trump felt the pulse of the Teabonics crowd, and knows that playing on their fears and hatred is a winning business.

What Republicans besides Lindsey Graham—oh, and Darth Cheney, have “condemned” Trump? I don’t think saying, “I don’t agree with him” (Reince) or “That’s not what we stand for” (Paul Ryan) or the other mealy-mouthed responses really count as condemnation.

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William Lewis  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:01:42pm

re: #12 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Good heavens! I should have remembered this, but here’s 9 minutes of Karen Carpenter

[Embedded content]

Playing drums.

I aways thought that if they’d let her sing from the drum kit, she’d be alive today because the drums were her thing and she was_good_ at them.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:03:07pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

How so? Excluding one religion does not in-and-of-itself establish another.

You’re reading the term establishment as if it’s only a verb. It’s also a noun. It doesn’t simply keep the government from establishing a religion, it keeps it from discriminating in any way between religions.

The “establishment of religion” clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the federal government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever form they may adopt to teach or practice religion. Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa. In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect “a wall of separation between church and State.”

-Everson v Board of Education, 1947

It is frankly shocking that you don’t know this.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:03:48pm

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s my problem with this whole fucking mess:

Exactly what’s to stop a Muslim from saying they are Christian or Buddhist or some other damned thing to get around these stupid rules? What criteria will you have for identifying someone as a Muslim to exclude them from immigrating?

I am Christian but I don’t carry an ID card in my wallet or have any identifying marks on my body indicating as such nor by asking me could you prove my faith because I could lie and there’s no way you could prove I was lying.

That’s the biggest problem in the war on terror, the one that threatens our freedoms the most: It’s pretty damned hard to figure out who the enemy is.

I agree with you and that why I find Trump’s idea hateful and an outrage.

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:04:05pm

RollingStone jumps on the PPP poll, which I remind everyone was taken before Trump’s latest performance:

Terrifying New Poll Shows the Appeal of Trump’s Islamophobia

We may not get new polls taken after this latest brouhaha until next Monday.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:04:55pm

re: #57 goddamnedfrank

I was gonna respond but you got this one covered. Have an upding.

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:05:35pm

re: #10 Reality Based Steve

The greatest trick the Devil RWNJs ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist. they meant well.

RBS

With apologies to Flannery O’Connor;

“Jesus is a trick on RWNJs.”

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:07:09pm

re: #57 goddamnedfrank

You’re reading the term establishment as if it’s only a verb. It’s also a noun. It doesn’t simply keep the government from establishing a religion, it keeps it from discriminating in any way between religions.

It is frankly shocking that you don’t know this.

Frank, I’d forgotten about that case you cited till just now. It’s not often cited and most people have never read what you cited.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:07:55pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Frank, I’d forgotten about that case you cited till just now. It’s not often cited and most people have never read what you cited.

Could I have cited the case? No.

Could I have told you the concept that the government cannot make laws that favor one religion over another?

YES.

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bratwurst  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:10:05pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Frank, I’d forgotten about that case you cited till just now. It’s not often cited and most people have never read what you cited.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:10:13pm

re: #57 goddamnedfrank

But I also want to say “Thank you” because you’ve given me more intellectual shells for me to fire at Fortress Trump.

[kidding]I just hope there’s some HVAP-DS (DU) in the mix. [/kidding]

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:10:36pm

One of the editors of the professional hate site Daily Caller declares:

Whatever the outcome of the 2016 GOP primary, it should dawn on party leadership that they are sorely out of touch with their own supporters.

Kind of obvious, really (and I wouldn’t expect anything truly enlightening from the Daily Caller.) Jeb! and his foie gras feasting friends are unlikely to ever really identify with the teabonic crowd who feel the “strength” (according the Daily Caller) of Trump.

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bratwurst  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:12:16pm

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

But I also want to say “Thank you”

This was probably the place to start instead of making an excuse.

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:13:27pm

haiku 4 u:

Jeb! Bush’s foie gras
feasting friends frown on fascist
fantasy of Trump.

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:14:38pm

44% of Trump backers support outlawing Islam.

Think about that for a moment.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:15:27pm

re: #67 bratwurst

This was probably the place to start instead of making an excuse.

True, but I was caught flat-footed, as I was confronted with case law I’d forgotten existed and had never examined closely. But I am glad it exists.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:18:14pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

44% of Trump backers support outlawing Islam.

Think about that for a moment.

Which is a problem because even Trump said that would be unconstitutional applied to US citizens. The question is: Would Trump hold to that position after some of his followers started screaming and threatening to flounce? My answer: Probably not.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:20:56pm

re: #63 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Could I have cited the case? No.

Could I have told you the concept that the government cannot make laws that favor one religion over another?

YES.

Because the term “an establishment of religion” already implies that the definition of establishment being discussed is not singular, as would be the case if all that was being barred was the creation of one official State religion. Had the drafters of the Constitution written “the establishment of religion” then a less broad interpretation might at least have been plausible.

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:24:26pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

Which is a problem because even Trump said that would be unconstitutional applied to US citizens. The question is: Would Trump hold to that position after some of his followers started screaming and threatening to flounce? My answer: Probably not.

Most of the bullshit Trump spouts is unconstitutional. He either doesn’t know and/or doesn’t care, as long as the jibbering gibbons in the audience (you saw a perfect example of it in my sorry ass state last night) swoon and cheer. Are you thinking his fans would flounce because it’s unconstitutional or they’d flounce if Trump walked it back and their fevered dreams would go unanswered?

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:24:56pm

Meanwhile, in the world of science:

Groundbreaking penis transplant will give wounded veterans ‘a sense of self’

The challenge is.. um… finding donors. Basically one needs to find a freshly deceased male, not too old, who can be compatible (as far as the immune system), not diseased or having a damaged penis, and whose relatives will give permission to cut off a body part (assuming the body wasn’t donated to science in the first place.)

It might in the end actually be easier to grow a new penis from tricked stem cells.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:27:57pm

I wonder about the GOP.

I mean to see a group of people so intent on destroying one Constitutional amendment and yet defending to the point of absurdity another amendment just blows my mind.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:28:49pm

re: #73 BeachDem

Most of the bullshit Trump spouts is unconstitutional. He either doesn’t know and/or doesn’t care, as long as the jibbering gibbons in the audience (you saw a perfect example of it in my sorry ass state last night) swoon and cheer. Are you thinking his fans would flounce because it’s unconstitutional or they’d flounce if Trump walked it back and their fevered dreams would go unanswered?

That they would flounce when Trump told them that outlawing Islam is Constitutionally impossible.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:31:33pm

I actually snorted.

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TedStriker  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:35:32pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

I actually snorted.

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bratwurst  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:36:17pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

True, but I was caught flat-footed, as I was confronted with case law I’d forgotten existed and had never examined closely. But I am glad it exists.

And I am glad this country is a better place than you thought it was up until a few minutes ago.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:37:16pm

Meanwhile, NORAD is getting ready to deliver bad news to kids in North America, as Russia emplaces S-400 missiles along its Arctic coast.

This means Santa Claus isn’t going to be delivering presents this year, since Putin is going to demand Santa accept Russian sovereignty over the North Pole. Failing that, Russia would simply blow Santa out of the sky, and the S-400 SAM’s infrared sensors are so sophisticated they can home in on the body heat of Santa’s reindeer.

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:39:49pm

Mullah Mohler is posting stupid again, this time about Einstein and relativity.

That whole Southern Baptist scene is just sad.

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:12:58pm

Because Trump has sucked all the air out of the room, we’ve missed other great feats of teh stoopid being done by various candidates.

For example, Ted Cruz and his embarassment of a “hearing” about climate change:

Ted Cruz derides climate change at hearing

Sen. Ted Cruz leaned on one of his favorite arguments Tuesday, building an entire Senate subcommittee hearing on climate change around the notion that satellite data proves that Earth’s temperatures have flat-lined over the last 18 years.

“There has been no significant global warming in the past 18 years,” he said. “Global warming alarmists don’t like these data. They are inconvenient truths, as Al Gore might say. But facts and evidence matters.”

But when faced with a large scrum of reporters after the hearing, Cruz talked past questions pointing out that 1998 — his baseline for arguing Earth’s warming has paused — was at the time the hottest year ever recorded. And that, give or take a few tiny variations, nearly every year since has been as hot or hotter.

[…]

But Cruz opened the hearing by declaring that, as the son of two mathematicians, he was determined to see scientific integrity defended in the face of what he says is a near-total conspiracy of reporters, scientists and Democrats to silence any who dare question the orthodoxy.

“It’s like the Inquisition,” he said, arguing that advocates of policies to fight global warming have borrowed the “language of the Roman inquisitors” by all but branding scientists like the panelists he had invited to testify as “heretics.”

Three of the four panelists were scientists with well-known views that the global consensus over climate change is based on fear and groupthink. A fourth invited by Cruz was Mark Steyn, a Canadian activist and author who bills himself as “the one-man global content provider.”

[…]

Cruz claimed victory after the hearing. He said his witnesses had produced uncontroverted evidence that what most people think they know about climate change is wrong. He said Democrats and the news media mislead the public in order to grant the federal government control of vast portions of the economy.

[…]

Cruz is a deceiving conspiratorial loon. And that has nothing to do with Donald Trump.

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:20:40pm

Ungrateful little bastards!

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:22:39pm

re: #82 freetoken

re: #82 freetoken

Because Trump has sucked all the air out of the room, we’ve missed other great feats of teh stoopid being done by various candidates.

For example, Ted Cruz and his embarassment of a “hearing” about climate change:

Ted Cruz derides climate change at hearing

Cruz is a deceiving conspiratorial loon. And that has nothing to do with Donald Trump.

Idiocracy (the movie): Brawndo’s got what plants crave. It’s got electrolytes.

Idiocracy (a witness in Ted Cruz’s upcoming climate hearing)

At his request, the money was sent to the CO2 Coalition, a climate change-denying organization where he is also a board member. The coalition’s slogan is “Carbon dioxide, a nutrient vital for life.”

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:41:07pm

MP3 Audio

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 9, 2015 • 12:02:31am

You think Einstein walked around thinkin’ everyone was a bunch of dumb shits? Now you know why he built that bomb.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 12:33:29am

re: #84 BeachDem

Idiocracy (the movie): Brawndo’s got what plants crave. It’s got electrolytes.

Idiocracy (a witness in Ted Cruz’s upcoming climate hearing)

At his request, the money was sent to the CO2 Coalition, a climate change-denying organization where he is also a board member. The coalition’s slogan is “Carbon dioxide, a nutrient vital for life.”

It’s what plants crave!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 1:07:52am

I do not even see the need for a discussion about whether a ban on Muslim immigration constitutes a violation of the Second Amendment.

We need a discussion on why Trump is unqualified for the office he is campaigning for.

And a discussion of why so many people are so fed up with American politics that they support an unqualified candidate just because he can market himself as an “outsider”.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 9, 2015 • 1:14:23am

Fargo Season 2 Episode 9 spoiler.

Click to Reveal

Random UFO WTF?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 1:25:16am

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s my problem with this whole fucking mess:

Exactly what’s to stop a Muslim from saying they are Christian or Buddhist or some other damned thing to get around these stupid rules? What criteria will you have for identifying someone as a Muslim to exclude them from immigrating?

I already offered a simple and easy Trump test: just spread out a copy of pages from the Koran on the floor that a Muslim would have to walk over to enter America.

/

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Archangelus  Dec 9, 2015 • 1:29:47am

re: #89 goddamnedfrank

Fargo Season 2 Episode 9 spoiler.

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On behalf of those of us who haven’t finished (or started) season 1:

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 9, 2015 • 1:48:59am

NRO doing the most to validate Trump’s heinous bigoted rhetoric.

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Kragar  Dec 9, 2015 • 1:51:03am

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

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freetoken  Dec 9, 2015 • 2:13:46am

MP3 Audio

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Archangelus  Dec 9, 2015 • 2:30:21am

Question: does LGF have an “Are You KIDDING Me?!?!” page category?

Independent: Trump Calls for Banning the Internet

Donald Trump has called for the internet to be turned off so that children can no longer use it.

The presidential hopeful said that “We’ve got to maybe do something with the internet,” because it was being used to radicalise people. He said that he would “see Bill Gates” so that he could look into “closing it up”.

…Children in America are “watching the internet and they want to be masterminds”, Trump said in a speech.

“We’re losing a lot of people because of the internet,” Trump said. “We have to see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what’s happening.

“We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that internet up in some ways. Somebody will say, ‘Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.’ These are foolish people.”

Someone really should tell Trump it’s Al Gore he needs to be talking to instead of Gates…

Although, now when i think about it, it really would silence all the deranged nut jobs out there clogging my social feeds…. /

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Archangelus  Dec 9, 2015 • 2:42:29am

Dear Mr. Trump: PLEASE PROCEED

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William Lewis  Dec 9, 2015 • 3:06:02am

re: #96 Archangelus

Dear Mr. Trump: PLEASE PROCEED

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Might just as well call yourself the American Social Workers Party and tell them all to wear blue shirts while you’re at it…

Gah… Makes me wish there really was a Captain America to defend us. I’d love to see that shield upside Herr Clowns head.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 9, 2015 • 3:18:13am

re: #96 Archangelus

Dear Mr. Trump: PLEASE PROCEED

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I couldn’t agree more.

DO IT. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR, TRUMP?!

Hillary, or Bernie, or whomever, will end up winning in an electoral landslide. Hell, a stale loaf of bread would romp to triumph.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 3:29:40am

re: #96 Archangelus

A new poll indicates that 68% of my supporters would vote for me if I departed the GOP & ran as an independent.

I would be interested in a poll on how many Trump supporters would just take up their ball, go home and refuse to participate in the next election if they could not vote for the Donald.

I suspect that they outnumber the Berniebros who would rather not vote at all than vote for HIllary.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 9, 2015 • 3:57:06am

re: #11 Lidane

Circular firing squad, female GOP hacks edition:

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Okay, not to be a shallow misogynist, but what the hell did S.E. Cupp do with her hair?

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Timothy Watson  Dec 9, 2015 • 3:58:49am

re: #95 Archangelus

Question: does LGF have an “Are You KIDDING Me?!?!” page category?

Independent: Trump Calls for Banning the Internet

Someone really should tell Trump it’s Al Gore he needs to be talking to instead of Gates…

Although, now when i think about it, it really would silence all the deranged nut jobs out there clogging my social feeds…. /

Well, Gates did try to kill the Internet with Internet Explorer 6.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 4:00:13am

re: #100 Timothy Watson

Okay, not to be a shallow misogynist, but what the hell did S.E. Cupp do with her hair?

Also not to be a shallow misogynist, but I liked her better as a brunette…

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Teukka  Dec 9, 2015 • 4:01:38am

re: #95 Archangelus

Question: does LGF have an “Are You KIDDING Me?!?!” page category?

Independent: Trump Calls for Banning the Internet

Someone really should tell Trump it’s Al Gore he needs to be talking to instead of Gates…

Although, now when i think about it, it really would silence all the deranged nut jobs out there clogging my social feeds…. /

Charles, can a “Jesus Hello Kitty Christ on a Rocket-powered Toboggan are you Freakin’ Serious!?” tag be created and/or used when paging?

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William Lewis  Dec 9, 2015 • 4:14:19am

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

I couldn’t agree more.

DO IT. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR, TRUMP?!

Hillary, or Bernie, or whomever, will end up winning in an electoral landslide. Hell, a stale loaf of bread would romp to triumph.

That falls into the “be careful what you wish for” category. Our system breaks badly when there are more than two viable candidates. See 1860 or 1912 for examples. Add into it the “faithless elector” problem which could really bite us if we had a real three way split and I get very nervous about the November 2016 election.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 4:17:28am

re: #104 William Lewis

That falls into the “be careful what you wish for” category. Our system breaks badly when there are more than two viable candidates. See 1860 or 1912 for examples. Add into it the “faithless elector” problem which could really bite us if we had a real three way split and I get very nervous about the November 2016 election.

Yes, 1860 comes to haunt me. Imagine an election that gives the Democrats an electoral majority but no clear popular vote mandate and no majority at all across broad swathes of the country. That could result in a large share of the population simply not recognizing the winner as a legally elected President.

Next step: Start bombarding Fort Sumter!!!

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Tigger2  Dec 9, 2015 • 4:21:23am

This guy is having fun with photoshop. LOL

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 4:22:55am

re: #106 Tigger2

This guy is having fun with photoshop. LOL

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You can have this dildo when you pull it from my cold, dead….er, whatever!

I also like the idea of what Rand Paul is going to do to the US tax code with that big pink dildo.

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Tigger2  Dec 9, 2015 • 4:28:29am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You can have this dildo when you pull it from my cold, dead….er, whatever!

I also like the idea of what Rand Paul is going to do to the US tax code with that big pink dildo.

I really liked the one with Huck the religious fanatic hugging the Dildo.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 9, 2015 • 4:29:46am

The Chuck Heston one is great: God turned his staff into a snake into a gun into a dildo.

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Bird in the Paw  Dec 9, 2015 • 4:40:28am

re: #83 teleskiguy

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Ungrateful little bastards!

Now, the project that you are working on is a perfect place to lay.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 4:55:03am

Angela Merkel was named Time Magazine Person of the Year.

Trump will have a rage.

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Lidane  Dec 9, 2015 • 5:03:12am

Today’s Detroit Free Press:

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 9, 2015 • 5:06:13am

re: #112 Lidane

It’s funny they have “freep” in their handle. Probably wondering why we say freepers are crazy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 5:06:45am

re: #112 Lidane

Today’s Detroit Free Press:

We need to see more of this, and we need to simply support news outlets that ignore Trump or minimize coverage of the “controversy” he is causing.

Because controversy is all he has to run on.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 9, 2015 • 5:17:15am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 5:19:46am

re: #115 Joe Bacon

Krauthammer’s Take: Trump Is ‘Deeply Bigoted, It Is Indefensible’

I don’t thnk it is the “deeply bigoted” that they have a problem with it, they like their bigotry deep - as in “deeply hidden”.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 9, 2015 • 5:21:08am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 9, 2015 • 5:24:33am

re: #115 Joe Bacon

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Joe Bacon  Dec 9, 2015 • 5:34:28am

re: #106 Tigger2

This guy is having fun with photoshop. LOL

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Oh my goodness, ALL those Republicans want to do the Chuck Berry thing and play with their Ding-A-Lings!

Chuck Berry - My Ding-A-Ling (1972)

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 5:41:53am

re: #113 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

It’s funny they have “freep” in their handle. Probably wondering why we say freepers are crazy.

I remember when FReepers had a rage that the “Liberal” Detroit Free Press “stole” their domain name by registering it first.

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Lidane  Dec 9, 2015 • 5:48:36am
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Lidane  Dec 9, 2015 • 5:53:22am
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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 5:54:07am

re: #11 Lidane

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 5:58:35am

re: #118 Dr. Matt

Well, VP Cheney did come out against Trump.

It’s interesting that folks most closely associated with the last GOP president are the ones who are loudest in denouncing Trump (other than the President’s brother, who seems to be far less capable than otherwise appeared). I can’t quite put my finger on why that is.

Oh wait. I do.

They have experience in dealing with terrorism on a massive scale, managing expectations, and dealing with Islamophobia - knowing that it’s a fool’s errand to declare war on more than 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide. Trying to separate terrorists from the community they live in. Trying to make inroads to keep new terrorists from forming.

Say what you want about how they dealt with Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11, but keeping the Islamophobes at bay is a high water mark for the GWB administration. They played that right - and the Obama Administration has been no different in that regard.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:04:36am

Look who is butthurt==>

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Lidane  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:05:12am
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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:08:52am
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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:09:04am
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Franklin  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:12:03am

re: #106 Tigger2

This guy is having fun with photoshop. LOL

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Next photoshop target…

re: #128 lawhawk

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:13:12am

re: #125 lawhawk

Say what you want about how they dealt with Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11, but keeping the Islamophobes at bay is a high water mark for the GWB administration. They played that right - and the Obama Administration has been no different in that regard.

It is one of the few things about GWB I found admirable.

That and his campaign for comprehensive immigration reform…look how far he got with that within his own party.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:13:34am

re: #128 lawhawk

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The answer to that question is that the RJC is full of bigoted assholes like Ben Shapiro.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:14:17am

Oh look Bill Kristol is aghast about Trump entering Bircher/Buchanan territory?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:14:54am

re: #130 Franklin

Why is the Republican Jewish Coalition silent on Trump’s bigotry?

They are too busy negotiating?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:17:24am

re: #126 The Vicious Babushka

Look who is butthurt==>

Very presidential how much leadership.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:23:26am

re: #111 The Vicious Babushka

Angela Merkel was named Time Magazine Person of the Year.

Trump will have a rage.

It’s understandable. I mean look at Trump’s vast accomplishments this year….give me a few minutes, or hours. I’ll find them somewhere.

//

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b.d.  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:23:53am

re: #126 The Vicious Babushka

Look who is butthurt==>

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Why would Time pick Trump as Person of the Year? What has he done this year besides yammer away?

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Dr. Matt  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:24:31am

re: #136 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

It’s understandable. I mean look at Trump’s vast accomplishments this year….give me a few minutes, or hours. I’ll find them somewhere.

//

He is single-handedly destroying the Republican brand. That’s an accomplishment I suppose.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:24:53am

re: #137 b.d.

Why would Time pick Trump as Person of the Year? What has he done this year besides yammer away?

Because he think it should be about celebrity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:25:59am

re: #139 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Because he thinks it should be about celebrity sheer awesomeness.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:27:17am

re: #137 b.d.

Why would Time pick Trump as Person of the Year? What has he done this year besides yammer away?

He’s the frontrunner for the GOP, coming out of nowhere. Yeah, he could have been POY.

So too could have Bernie Sanders. Or BLM. Or the refugees from the Syrian civil war. Or Putin. Or Daesh.

Person of year doesn’t mean doing good things. It just means most notable. Merkel fits that bill having run the gauntlet in dealing with everything from the refugee crisis to the economic collapse in Greece and keeping the EU together while pushing an environmental agenda too.

Trump’s got nothing on her.

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b.d.  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:28:36am

[trump] I should have gotten Time Person of the Year for drawing in huge debate ratings for CNBC, CNN & FOX [/trump]

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Great White Snark  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:28:49am

Well this is a mystery, and perhaps a deadly one. There is, or was perhaps this company called SevenFifty. Downtown LA. First name Arman. Specializing in well designed 18k and diamond jewelry. The guy that runs it has literally disappeared for over a week. Him and his car if I’m correctly informed. Last seen entering his local bank and leaving with a bag. Of course that looks like a big cash withdrawal. And sometimes cash speaks volumes in our biz, even for rather large buys. These days it’s hard to vanish.

I know this guy, sold him metals. I find myself hoping he skipped out, and was not coerced into getting cash and killed anyway. It has happened, a rare crime to be sure. Neither scenario is a good thing but damn. When lightning strikes close it’s hard not to do the hyper vigilance thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:29:36am

re: #141 lawhawk

Person of year doesn’t mean doing good things. It just means most notable. Merkel fits that bill having run the gauntlet in dealing with everything from the refugee crisis to the economic collapse in Greece and keeping the EU together while pushing an environmental agenda too.

Without criticizing people who disagree with her, getting them fired, calling them stupid or mocking their disabilities. What’s wrong with her, anyways?

/

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:30:04am

Fascinating watching Dean Obeidallah go after John Nolte (who’s got a serious case of the butthurts).

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Timothy Watson  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:32:56am

Hey, over 10,000 karma.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:35:07am

re: #143 Great White Snark

has anyone reported him missing to the police?

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Lidane  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:35:29am

No one could have predicted:

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:38:41am

re: #148 Lidane

The mixed reaction to Mr. Trump’s proposal from some of his Republican rivals showed how delicately they continue to treat the front-runner and the voters keeping his poll numbers so high.

They still see his supporters as potential voters when T finally bows out. But if he does quit (and does not run as an independent) I am sure a lot of these voters are just going to drop out and not vote at all, sort of like what the Berniebros are threatening to do, but in even greater numbers.

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Great White Snark  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:40:52am

re: #147 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

has anyone reported him missing to the police?

Of course that’s all ongoing. Frantic wife poor thing.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:44:03am

re: #142 b.d.

[trump] I should have gotten Time Person of the Year for drawing in huge debate ratings for CNBC, CNN & FOX [/trump]

LOOK AT MY YOOOOGE POLL NUMBERS!!!!

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Lidane  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:44:49am
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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:44:50am

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They still see his supporters as potential voters when T finally bows out. But if he does quit (and does not run as an independent) I am sure a lot of these voters are just going to drop out and not vote at all, sort of like what the Berniebros are threatening to do, but in even greater numbers.

And I expect the amount of Democratic PUMAs to be insignificant. The Republicans will take a huge hit, I think.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:44:53am
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b.d.  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:46:23am

I think that the person who cut Ben Shaprio’s mike and kicked him off of that High School auditorium stage yesterday should have gotten the Person of the Year honor.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:49:08am

Another Bush Admin official calls out Trump.

This time it’s former NJ Governor and EPA head Christie Whitman:

Can’t wait to see Trump’s response to her. They have a history.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:50:33am

re: #155 b.d.

I think that the person who cut Ben Shaprio’s mike and kicked him off of that High School auditorium stage yesterday should have gotten the Person of the Year honor.

Ben is still butthurt this morning and crying about how he is “persecuted” and “bullied” for JUST TELLING TEH TROOFS!!!!1!!!!

I’m thinking he did this on purpose.

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:51:32am

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

Earlier in the day, 40 ants were seen carrying a match in the vicinity.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:51:43am

re: #156 lawhawk

Another Bush Admin official calls out Trump.

This time it’s former NJ Governor and EPA head Christie Whitman:

Can’t wait to see Trump’s response to her. They have a history.

Chris Christie…Christie Todd Whitman…

Lots of Christies in NJ

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:52:54am

re: #155 b.d.

I think that the person who cut Ben Shaprio’s mike and kicked him off of that High School auditorium stage yesterday should have gotten the Person of the Year honor.

Oh, yes, almost forgot about Ben’s monumental HS visit with YAF or whoever where he was going to DESTROY all the Leftists…

//

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:55:00am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:56:01am

Erick wants to silence this former “Young Conservative” who has gone over to the Lib Side, but he still whines about Conservatives being “silenced” by “leftists” calling them racist, bigoted, idiots, etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:56:11am

extreme RWNJs don’t like Rubio very much:

(Joe Miller, Ron Paul fanboy and former Palin BFF, is a real lunatic who lost to Murkowski when she won her Senate race as a write-in candidate.)

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makeitstop  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:58:00am

re: #137 b.d.

Why would Time pick Trump as Person of the Year? What has he done this year besides yammer away?

For a big important dude like he sees himself to be, it’s pretty amazing that he seems to spend all of his time obsessing over petty things like awards, polls and TV ratings.

And let’s not mention how every single thing, all the time, has to be all about him or it sucks. To think they’ve been calling Obama arrogant for seven years now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:58:11am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 9, 2015 • 6:58:48am

What fucking scum…

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:00:27am

re: #155 b.d.

I think that the person who cut Ben Shaprio’s mike and kicked him off of that High School auditorium stage yesterday should have gotten the Person of the Year honor.

First I’ve heard of this. Do tell more…

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Franklin  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:01:16am

re: #166 Dr. Matt

What fucking scum…

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BORN THE KORAN!!!

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:03:04am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

Great, they’ll probably ask the bomb squad to go bulldoze Palestinian Airlines in response.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:03:34am

re: #168 Franklin

BORN THE KORAN!!!

I was even joking about at one point making refugees walk over pages from the Koran to enter America, but these guys have ramped it…

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Franklin  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:04:31am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I was even joking about at one point making refugees walk over pages from the Koran to enter America, but these guys have ramped it…

One could make a koran out of bacon and make them eat it. Shit, don’t want to give them any ideas.

EDIT: sarcasm obvs ////

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:05:52am
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darthstar  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:06:21am

Bernie is the only candidate who can call what Trump is saying crap and have it actually mean something.

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Skip Intro  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:08:37am

re: #32 teleskiguy

A third of your party is not listening to any of those people.

More like 50% when you add Cruz’s poll numbers to Trumps.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:09:24am

re: #173 darthstar

I also like what Clinton said:

“Some of his Republican candidates are saying that his latest comments have gone too far,”

“But the truth is, many of them have also said extreme things about Muslims. Their language may be more veiled than Trump’s, but their ideas are not so different.”

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:09:36am

re: #173 darthstar

Bernie is the only candidate who can call what Trump is saying crap and have it actually mean something.

I’d love to see Bernie in a debate with a Republican. “That’s a load of crap!” Boom. 23 million Americans nod their heads in agreement.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:09:47am

re: #167 Dave In Austin

First I’ve heard of this. Do tell more…

Ben of the Corn was telling high school students that the reason people are in poverty is because they suck and they are stupid worthless lazy moochers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:12:43am

re: #177 The Vicious Babushka

Ben of the Corn was telling high school students that the reason people are in poverty is because they suck and they are stupid worthless lazy moochers.

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martyr to the cause of free conservative speech!

/

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:16:03am

re: #175 Belafon

I also like what Clinton said:

Shots fired

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:16:50am

re: #166 Dr. Matt

What fucking scum…

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Stay classy, UpChuck

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:18:23am

re: #162 The Vicious Babushka

Dear CJ Pearson: Shut Up t.co
— Erick Erickson

Is Erick son of Erick still in Christian seminary? His pastoral approach needs some work.

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TedStriker  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:20:07am

re: #181 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Is Erick son of Erick still in Christian seminary? His pastoral approach needs some work.

HIe pewside manner sucks the sweat off a dead man’s balls.

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Bird in the Paw  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:20:24am

re: #181 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Is Erick son of Erick still in Christian seminary? His pastoral approach needs some work.

Seems about par for the right’s version of christianity to me.

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:21:15am

re: #138 Dr. Matt

He is single-handedly destroying the Republican brand. That’s an accomplishment I suppose.

You know the old saying—nothing kills a bad brand faster than good advertising.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:22:08am

re: #138 Dr. Matt

He is single-handedly destroying the Republican brand. That’s an accomplishment I suppose.

Destroying it for who though? From the looks of it, he’s making it more popular. Not for the right reasons, but I’m seeing a resurgence, so-to-speak.

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:23:04am
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KingKenrod  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:24:58am

UpChuck’s overnight blather on Facebook is more hilarious than usual.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:24:59am

re: #185 GlutenFreeJesus

Destroying it for who though? From the looks of it, he’s making it more popular. Not for the right reasons, but I’m seeing a resurgence, so-to-speak.

A minority (Trump supporters) within a minority (GOP nationawide overall) that has deluded itself into thinking itself the determining factor in modern politics.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:25:32am

re: #186 darthstar

After Rahm says, “we have a trust problem,” one lady says, “No, we have a killing problem, stop changing the subject.”

What we’ve got here is failure to communicate!

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Dave In Austin  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:26:11am

re: #181 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Is Erick son of Erick still in Christian seminary? His pastoral approach needs some work.

E son of E needs pics of himself with “Big Pink” or black, or brown, or rainbow… He needs to join his brethren in latex.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:27:26am

re: #175 Belafon

I also like what Clinton said:

Clinton’s on the right track. The GOP isn’t distancing themselves from Trump, even though they are playing word games. They’re still all (except Pataki) willing to support Trump if he wins the nomination. None are willing to withhold their support from Trump over this.

And Cruz, Bush, and Paul have all proffered anti-Muslim policies. So it’s not like Trump’s alone on this.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:28:02am

Ben Shapiro wants to crush this apostate heretic for leaving the True Faith==>

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:28:14am

re: #191 lawhawk

Clinton’s on the right track. The GOP isn’t distancing themselves from Trump, even though they are playing word games. They’re still all (except Pataki) willing to support Trump if he wins the nomination. None are willing to withhold their support from Trump over this.

And Cruz, Bush, and Paul have all proffered anti-Muslim policies. So it’s not like Trump’s alone on this.

Not to mention all the GOP governors who want to keep Muslim refugees out of their state

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whitebeach  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:29:23am

re: #74 freetoken

Meanwhile, in the world of science:

Groundbreaking penis transplant will give wounded veterans ‘a sense of self’

…
It might in the end actually be easier to grow a new penis from tricked stem cells.

Good lord. Why not two, three … MANY penises?

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:29:45am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

extreme RWNJs don’t like Rubio very much:

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(Joe Miller, Ron Paul fanboy and former Palin BFF, is a real lunatic who lost to Murkowski when she won her Senate race as a write-in candidate.)

Remember the great “Three Joes” tour—ah, those were the days.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:31:36am

re: #192 The Vicious Babushka

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:34:06am

re: #195 BeachDem

Remember the great “Three Joes” tour—ah, those were the days.

Not The Onion?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:34:54am

re: #192 The Vicious Babushka

idiot faux-conservative prodigies

Sounds like another splendid band name.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:35:00am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I already offered a simple and easy Trump test: just spread out a copy of pages from the Koran on the floor that a Muslim would have to walk over to enter America.

/

Yeah, I saw your sarc tag, but it still wouldn’t work because:

1.) Can you imagine the optics? The US would become an instant pariah among Western nations, in part because it would inflame the entire Muslim world to the point where no Westerner would be able to safely set foot in any Muslim majority country. It would also almost surely radicalize many naturalized and Western born citizens.

2.) The US would be immediately cut off from all petroleum originating in the Middle East. I’m guessing that would cause major economic problems, not to mention political ones when gas suddenly shoots up to $10/gal or whatever, and every business’ operating costs skyrocket (i.e. it’s not just gas, it’s plastic and all the other petroleum by-products, including how it would impact the military).

3.) We’re talking about the concern being terrorists getting in, not law abiding regular Muslims (I’m not gonna say “moderate” because it makes it sound like that’s some special category instead of the vast majority of Muslims). How long does anyone suppose it would take a terrorist leader to find a scholar who (at gunpoint or otherwise) would issue a fatwa declaring stepping on the pages acceptable as long as it was for the cause?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:36:17am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

A minority (Trump supporters) within a minority (GOP nationawide overall) that has deluded itself into thinking itself the determining factor in modern politics.

I’m not willing to believe they are a minority. Many people whom I thought reasonable have come out to support him unquestionably.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:36:45am

Sigh.

Islamic Center of Twin Falls vandalized: TFPD considering it a hate crime

And sadly, my Governor is also one of the assholes who’s trying to block Syrian refugees from coming to Idaho.

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:37:22am

re: #197 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Not The Onion?

Nope—definitely not. I don’t think the tour went very far, but it was definitely a real thing. Joe Arpaio, (not) Joe the (not) Plumber and Joe Miller. So much fail in one venue.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:39:10am

re: #186 darthstar

And he’s not mentioning the $500,000,000 the city has paid out to victims of CPD brutality.

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b.d.  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:40:40am

re: #167 Dave In Austin

First I’ve heard of this. Do tell more…

those stupid poors can’t handle the truth of why they are poor!

Shapiro added that America’s permanent poor were not poor because they had been exploited by wealthier Americans, but because permanently poor Americans are typically not good with money, which is why lottery winners with a history of poverty largely fall back into poverty after spending their winnings.

“The reason people are permanently poor in the United States,” Shapiro said, “isn’t because they don’t have money, it’s because they suck with money. The reasons people are temporarily poor can vary.” As a rumble ran through the crowd, Shapiro continued, “That’s not even controversial. If you’re permanently poor [in America] for your entire life, you’re not great with money by definition…”

I think that they were smart by stopping him there, for his own safety.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:41:18am

re: #198 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Sounds like another splendid band name.

I am reminded of the original lyrics to “Get Back”, sung without any sense of irony…

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:41:31am

OOH Rand Paul is SOO MAD!!!!

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:41:52am

Objectives versus strategy:

Defeating IS/Daesh is an objective. That’s not a strategy. Cruz and the rest of the GOP don’t know/care to distinguish between objective and strategy. Mostly because they don’t have a strategy that differs from what the Obama Administration is doing - attacking targets of opportunity in Syria, Iraq, and anywhere else Daesh is known to operate.

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b.d.  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:42:24am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

OOH Rand Paul is SOO MAD!!!!

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Paul is going to be relegated to the undercard debate next week, he isn’t taking it well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:42:36am

re: #199 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I saw your sarc tag, but it still wouldn’t work because:

1.) Can you imagine the optics? The US would become an instant pariah among Western nations, in part because it would inflame the entire Muslim world to the point where no Westerner would be able to safely set foot in any Muslim majority country. It would also almost surely radicalize many naturalized and Western born citizens.

2.) The US would be immediately cut off from all petroleum originating in the Middle East. I’m guessing that would cause major economic problems, not to mention political ones when gas suddenly shoots up to $10/gal or whatever, and every business’ operating costs skyrocket (i.e. it’s not just gas, it’s plastic and all the other petroleum by-products, including how it would impact the military).

3.) We’re talking about the concern being terrorists getting in, not law abiding regular Muslims (I’m not gonna say “moderate” because it makes it sound like that’s some special category instead of the vast majority of Muslims). How long does anyone suppose it would take a terrorist leader to find a scholar who (at gunpoint or otherwise) would issue a fatwa declaring stepping on the pages acceptable as long as it was for the cause?

How many fucking sarc tags do I need? I am aware that the proposal is as asinine and useless as Trump’s original proposal.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:43:11am

Rand Paul then shat out a 10-part tweet of HURR HURR OBAMA SUCKS SO HARD!!!!1!!!!

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:43:14am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

OOH Rand Paul is SOO MAD!!!!

1. He’s black.
2. He’s a Democrat.
3-10: Repeat 1 and 2.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:43:55am

re: #200 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m not willing to believe they are a minority. Many people whom I thought reasonable have come out to support him unquestionably.

We are still talking about 30% of a party which, by counting votes Congressional votes nationwide, is still the minority. They are only a majority in Congress because they are good at gerrymandering.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:44:27am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

OOH Rand Paul is SOO MAD!!!!

Very presidential how much leadership

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:46:34am

Takes deep breath.
OK here is Rand Paul’s 10-Tweet Manifesto of HOW MENNY WAZE DUZ OBAMA SUCK!!!!1!!!!
It’s all complete and utter horse shit

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Teukka  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:48:17am

re: #128 lawhawk

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Heh, posted that in a wingnut-infested chat forum with the dlvr.it link. Feeding frenzy over being anti-semitic ensued.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:49:05am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

How many fucking sarc tags do I need? I am aware that the proposal is as asinine and useless as Trump’s original proposal.

Great, are you sure everyone reading here is also aware of that? Current LGF stats are:

Now Online: 3,803
Logged in: 89

You can be offended or annoyed if you want, but we’re not only speaking to LGF members here. Considering I’m one of the people Trump is targeting, I’m going to speak up when I think it’s necessary, regardless of who might get their panties in a twist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:50:32am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

Takes deep breath.
OK here is Rand Paul’s 10-Tweet Manifesto of HOW MENNY WAZE DUZ OBAMA SUCK!!!!1!!!!
It’s all complete and utter horse shit

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come up with 85 more of those and go nail them to a church door…

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Tigger2  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:50:50am

I don’t see much truth ire: #214 The Vicious Babushka

Takes deep breath.
OK here is Rand Paul’s 10-Tweet Manifesto of HOW MENNY WAZE DUZ OBAMA SUCK!!!!1!!!!
It’s all complete and utter horse shit

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I don’t see any truth in those 10, Just Fox talking points.

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Teukka  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:50:58am

re: #166 Dr. Matt

What fucking scum…

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Delta.
Alpha.
Foxtrot.
Uniform.
Quebec?

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:51:03am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

Takes deep breath.
OK here is Rand Paul’s 10-Tweet Manifesto of HOW MENNY WAZE DUZ OBAMA SUCK!!!!1!!!!
It’s all complete and utter horse shit

So, things that were either Bush started, or Republicans were for them until Obama started supporting them. Oh, and saving people’s lives.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:52:26am

re: #216 CuriousLurker

Great, are you sure everyone reading here is also aware of that? Current LGF stats are:

Now Online: 3,803
Logged in: 89

You can be offended or annoyed if you want, but we’re not only speaking to LGF members here. Considering I’m one of the people Trump is targeting, I’m going to speak up when I think it’s necessary, regardless of who might get their panties in a twist.

You did successfully spell out why DT’s plan is fucking stupid, asinine and counterproductive to those readers to whom it is not immediately obvious.

And Poe’s Law bites here. Outrageous statements about Muslims are no longer obvious as satire.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:54:17am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

Fought undeclared wars? Really?

So which is it? The AUMF to fight AQ applies to fighting IS, Daesh, etc., except when we want to attack Obama. Or that he doesn’t have an AUMF (and we’re not going to give him one despite Obama requesting it at the 2015 SOTU).

Except that Obama has operated within the constraints of the WPA re: Libya, Iraq, and Syria.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:54:26am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

Takes deep breath.
OK here is Rand Paul’s 10-Tweet Manifesto of HOW MENNY WAZE DUZ OBAMA SUCK!!!!1!!!!
It’s all complete and utter horse shit

Rand isn’t handling Trump’s ascension very well.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:57:45am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

1. Tried to take over 1/6 of economy in Obamacare, wrecked the system and hurt patients and taxpayers
— Dr. Rand Paul

Amazing how Rand and other RWNJ can just completely ignore the 12 million Americans now covered by some form of health insurance, public or private (and much of it private) who hadn’t been covered before.

And however much the ACA might have affected the existing system, I’m pretty sure it isn’t “wrecked”.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:57:58am

Oh, this is rich.

Guy claims he’s paid minimum wages, but isn’t paying taxes. I then explain that he is paying taxes - including withholding, sales, fuel taxes, etc., He gets upset and claims I know his finances.

Awww. Hurt the poor guy’s feelings for calling him out for lying.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 9, 2015 • 7:58:31am

re: #106 Tigger2

This guy is having fun with photoshop. LOL

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Is that same guy going to do dildo photoshops of the photos of Barack Obama and John Kerry holding and firing shotguns? Or is it just partisan slams he’s into?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:00:12am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

But they are still a majority. The election next year is going to be vital. Turnout will be key. Trump running independent will not hurt his chances. I won’t be happy even when he loses but has over 20% of the vote. That’s too much for someone like him and is a sign this country is losing its mind.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:00:38am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You did successfully spell out why DT’s plan is fucking stupid, asinine and counterproductive to those readers to whom it is not immediately obvious.

So glad you think so. //

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:00:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:02:38am

re: #227 GlutenFreeJesus

But they are still a majority. The election next year is going to be vital. Turnout will be key. Trump running independent will not hurt his chances. I won’t be happy even when he loses but has over 20% of the vote. That’s too much for someone like him and is a sign this country is losing its mind.

I fer an 1860 scenario: if the Dems win with an electoral majority but not a clear popular mandate, we could see large swathes of the country simply refusing to recognize their legal authority…

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:04:16am

re: #229 Dark_Falcon

I had to delete the tweet and put in a new one because I misspelled “bombing”. As often as I say and type that word you’d think I’d never get it wrong. :(

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:04:19am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Saw that discussed up-thread. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:04:34am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I fer an 1860 scenario: if the Dems win with an electoral majority but not a clear popular mandate, we could see large swathes of the country simply refusing to recognize their legal authority…

We have seen that already.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:04:38am
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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:06:12am

re: #226 Dark_Falcon

Is that same guy going to do dildo photoshops of the photos of Barack Obama and John Kerry holding and firing shotguns? Or is it just partisan slams he’s into?

Waaah.

Which group strokes them all the fucking time?

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:07:03am

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

We have seen that already.

And Obama got over 50% of the vote. Twice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:08:02am

re: #226 Dark_Falcon

Is that same guy going to do dildo photoshops of the photos of Barack Obama and John Kerry holding and firing shotguns? Or is it just partisan slams he’s into?

JK and BO use guns for hunting and target shooting, not as totemic symbols. Nor would I imagine either of them being seen toting guns in public or encouraging such activity.

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Teukka  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:08:16am

re: #229 Dark_Falcon

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:12:55am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

JK and BO use guns for hunting and target shooting, not as totemic symbols. Not would I imagine either of them being seen toting guns in public or encouraging such activity.

I wonder who will be the first open carry presidential candidate. He’s have one on his hip, though it probably wouldn’t have any bullets.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:13:49am

re: #166 Dr. Matt

What fucking scum…

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and unless I am mistaken, that first response is completely ass backward.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:14:32am
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It's on his hat!  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:14:35am

The nativist and xenophobic rhetoric coming from the GOP clown car has real-world consequences:

m.startribune.com

Racist assholes are always going to be racist assholes, but would the asshole in this story have been bold enough to confront someone he saw as a “refugee” if the GOP hadn’t made a big stink about it in the last couple of months? I’m guessing not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:17:55am

re: #240 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

and unless I am mistaken, that first response is completely ass backward.

cursory research indicates that although circumcision is not required by the Koran, it is almost universally practiced by Muslims.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:19:40am

re: #241 Ace-o-aces

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That remind me to post today’s Libya story:

UN clears Greek-seized armoured vehicles for delivery to Libya

The United Nations (UN) has ruled that a shipment of 16 armoured vehicles destined for Libya that were seized by Greece were being legally transferred.

Greece announced in July that it had seized the vehicles (eight Streit Group Typhoon 4x4 mine-resistant, ambush-protected (MRAP) vehicles, five armoured Toyota Land Cruisers, two armoured BMW sedans, and one armoured Mercedes sedan) during a port call by the merchant vessel MV Tychy to Piraeus.

Greece seized the vehicles believing their transfer was in breach of UN Resolution 1970/2013, paragraph 9 of which bans the trade of weapon systems with Libya.

However, the UN has now cleared the vehicles for release, after the internationally recognised Libyan government (in Tobruk) claimed ownership of the vehicles.

Those MRAPs are going to go to Benghazi after they arrive and are armed, once there their guns are going to help fight Daesh.

BBL

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:19:53am

re: #242 It’s on his hat!

From the Clinton speech she where I got the first quote:

Just a few days ago, two young women wearing headscarves were trying to have breakfast at a café near the University of Texas at Austin when another diner started shouting racist things at them. The girls left in tears—in part because of the ugly words, but also because no one else in that crowded café came to their defense.

As they left, one of the girls asked the room, “Who cares about us?” Somebody called out, “Nobody.” “We left,” they said, “because it was true.”

But it’s not true. And we have to make sure Muslim Americans know that. It’s how we stay true to our values as Americans. And it’s how we show the world who we really are—a strong, proud, united country that still knows, after all these years, that all men and women are created equal.

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Jenner7  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:20:12am

Morning Lizards.

I’m watching Ghost Hunters and they are at a bar in New Orleans called the Jimani Lounge. In 1972, there was an intentional fire set and 32 people died. Many of the victim’s were part of the gay community, so the story was largely ignored. The victim’s families never claimed the bodies and were just buried without being identified.

Can you imagine that? I sure as hell can’t.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:20:45am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

cursory research indicates that although circumcision is not required by the Koran, it is almost universally practiced by Muslims.

From what I know, it’s pretty widely practiced by christians as well.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:22:12am

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

That remind me to post today’s Libya story:

UN clears Greek-seized armoured vehicles for delivery to Libya

Those MRAPs are going to go to Benghazi after they arrive and are armed, once there their guns are going to help fight Daesh.

BBL

If Obama had gotten them there sooner, 4 Americans wouldn’t have died.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:22:19am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

The “gun violence” map is a complete fake, taken from a 2004 election results map.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:22:37am

re: #246 Jenner7

Morning Lizards.

I’m watching Ghost Hunters and they are at a bar in New Orleans called the Jimani Lounge. In 1972, there was an intentional fire set and 32 people died. Many of the victim’s were part of the gay community, so the story was largely ignored. The victim’s families never claimed the bodies and were just buried without being identified.

Can you imagine that? I sure as hell can’t.

that’s insane. Is Ghost Hunters still any good? Haven’t watched in years.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:22:38am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

Definite proof the so-called conservatives live in a separate reality from the rest of us.

More debt than any other President? Have you looked at the record of the blessed St. Ronnie, Paul?

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calochortus  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:22:47am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

cursory research indicates that although circumcision is not required by the Koran, it is almost universally practiced by Muslims.

And bunches of other cultures, making a fairly useless test.

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sagehen  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:24:24am

re: #204 b.d.

those stupid poors can’t handle the truth of why they are poor!

I think that they were smart by stopping him there, for his own safety.

Shapiro added that America’s permanent poor were not poor because they had been exploited by wealthier Americans, but because permanently poor Americans are typically not good with money,=

Even if he truly believes this, who does it serve that a guy called Shapiro, who wears a yarmulke in his twitter profile pic, should be the one to deliver this message?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:24:55am

re: #247 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

From what I know, it’s pretty widely practiced by christians as well.

Yes, I was born an American Catholic and was circumcised, but I have noticed that it is not at all common in Europe. We didn’t snip my son.

So now he has someplace to hide his gum in the event of a sandstorm…

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:25:14am

re: #242 It’s on his hat!

The nativist and xenophobic rhetoric coming from the GOP clown car has real-world consequences:

m.startribune.com

Racist assholes are always going to be racist assholes, but would the asshole in this story have been bold enough to confront someone he saw as a “refugee” if the GOP hadn’t made a big stink about it in the last couple of months? I’m guessing not.

Thanks for posting that.

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Jayleia  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:25:28am

re: #219 Teukka

I don’t think I’ve seen Quebec before…but then, most of my knowledge of military-style communication comes from Honor Harrington…and I can still run rings around republicans in THE FUCKING ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE

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Dr. Matt  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:25:40am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

Beside the obvious fake to anyone that is sane, 1) but why would the FBI color-code red as “low incidents [sic]” of gun violence, and 2) the FBI would report incidence not incidents. Fucking backward ass hicks.

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calochortus  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:26:31am

re: #199 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I saw your sarc tag, but it still wouldn’t work because:

1.) Can you imagine the optics? The US would become an instant pariah among Western nations, in part because it would inflame the entire Muslim world to the point where no Westerner would be able to safely set foot in any Muslim majority country. It would also almost surely radicalize many naturalized and Western born citizens.

2.) The US would be immediately cut off from all petroleum originating in the Middle East. I’m guessing that would cause major economic problems, not to mention political ones when gas suddenly shoots up to $10/gal or whatever, and every business’ operating costs skyrocket (i.e. it’s not just gas, it’s plastic and all the other petroleum by-products, including how it would impact the military).

3.) We’re talking about the concern being terrorists getting in, not law abiding regular Muslims (I’m not gonna say “moderate” because it makes it sound like that’s some special category instead of the vast majority of Muslims). How long does anyone suppose it would take a terrorist leader to find a scholar who (at gunpoint or otherwise) would issue a fatwa declaring stepping on the pages acceptable as long as it was for the cause?

I’m not sure #2 is currently valid-we’re largely self-sufficient in oil and gas at the moment, but it would probably roil world markets, just because.

I suspect a bigger problem would be that the people you’d actually like to let in might think twice about visiting/moving to a country where you were expected to insult others before entering.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:27:27am

re: #257 Dr. Matt

Beside the obvious fake to anyone that is sane, 1) but why would the FBI color-code red as “low incidents [sic]” of gun violence, and 2) the FBI would report incidence not incidents. Fucking backward ass hicks.

your stupid! there not fake’s!!!

/

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It's on his hat!  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:28:27am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

That’s an even worse meme than the one we usually see. According to that, Minnesota is a war zone.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:28:34am

WATCH: Muslim store owner in tears after he’s beaten by New York man on mission to ‘kill Muslims’

This is going to be commonplace in our country. Muslims in America today are the Jews of Germany in the 30s and 40s.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:30:02am

re: #257 Dr. Matt

Beside the obvious fake to anyone that is sane, 1) but why would the FBI color-code red as “low incidents [sic]” of gun violence, and 2) the FBI would report incidence not incidents. Fucking backward ass hicks.

Here is an actual map made from CDC data==>

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:31:23am

What should we call them Ben? Racists? Assholes? Dipshits?

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:32:38am

Where the campaign hats are made. They’re mostly made at a union shop in Newark, New Jersey.

Of course, Trump decided to get his campaign hats made at a non union shop in CA, because he’s a cheap bastard who thinks only of his profits.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:34:12am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

What should we call them Ben? Racists? Assholes? Dipshits?

I’m thinking Shapiros or Shaps, but he probably wouldn’t get the insult.

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Jenner7  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:34:30am

re: #250 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

It’s entertaining enough. They don’t find as many evp’s as Ghost Adventures does.

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calochortus  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:34:50am

re: #264 lawhawk

Where the campaign hats are made. They’re mostly made at a union shop in Newark, New Jersey.

Of course, Trump decided to get his campaign hats made at a non union shop in CA, because he’s a cheap bastard who thinks only of his profits.

Nonsense. He’s also the cheap bastard who thinks about publicity and public adulation. He’s multifaceted!

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:35:19am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

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Jenner7  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:36:21am

re: #261 Dr. Matt

I posted on my FB yesterday four stories of Muslim hate incidents with the hashtag #Trumpeffect. Looks like I have two more stories to add.

Sigh…

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:36:22am

re: #240 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

and unless I am mistaken, that first response is completely ass backward.

It’s not backwards. Male circumcision isn’t compulsory in Islam, but it is important & strongly encouraged. It’s not a central requirement the way it is in Judaism. Also there are plenty of non-Muslims who are circumcised.

When I was younger it was pretty common for newborn males to be circumcised while in the hospital. According to the CDC it’s still pretty widespread in most of the country.

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:36:37am

I’m just wild about the new, improved Harry:

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:38:05am

I’m just amazed at Ben’s capacity for coming up with new ways to be an asshole 24/7

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Dr. Matt  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:38:58am

re: #269 Jenner7

I posted on my FB yesterday four stories of Muslim hate incidents with the hashtag #Trumpeffect. Looks like I have two more stories to add.

Sigh…

Did you include this one?
Angry Woman Harangues Praying Muslims, Throws Hot Coffee

A woman hurled anti-Islam slurs and then hot coffee at a group of Muslims after she saw them praying in a California park.

Rasheed Albeshari said he and some friends had just finished their prayers Sunday afternoon at Lake Chabot in Alameda County when the woman confronted them, reported Arab American News.

[…]

A park ranger approaches at that point and asks the woman if her harangue of other park visitors is appropriate.

“It is inappropriate, you’re right, for somebody to tape record me,” the woman says.

Albeshari says the woman had insulted his god, and at that point she approaches him, hits the man with her umbrella and then tosses coffee in his face.

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:40:35am
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Jenner7  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:41:47am

re: #273 Dr. Matt

Nope. Will add that. Damn.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:42:23am

re: #266 Jenner7

It’s entertaining enough. They don’t find as many evp’s as Ghost Adventures does.

I never got into Ghost Adventures. They always seemed to find something and the whole “Bro” atmosphere of the show just turned me off. I liked Ghost Hunters because they were more up front and honest and didn’t see ghosts around every corner like Ghost Adventures did. And don’t get me started on Paranormal State.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:43:24am

We are well on our way to this worst case scenario: a confrontation leads to an altercation between Muslims and “Americans”, situation gets out of hand, a Muslim, claiming self-defense (or Stand Your Ground) shoots and kills one or more persons.

The resultant uproar (and wave of retaliatory violence) will be endlessly ugly and in the end the only person to benefit will be none other than our own combover Mussolini…

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:44:08am

Hannity think he’s making a case for Trump. He’s only making a case against. Regrettable and reprehensible acts by US government are in no way meant to give cover to Trump’s proposal.

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Targetpractice  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:44:10am

2001-2014: “MUSLIMS ARE EVIL! THEIR RELIGION PROMOTES WAR AND CONQUEST! THEIR HOLY BOOK CONDONES LYING TO NONBELIEVERS!”

2015: “STOP CALLING ME A BIGOT!!!!”

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Teukka  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:44:22am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

We are well on our way to this worst case scenario: altercation between Muslims and “Americans” gets out of hand, a Muslim, claiming self-defense (or Stand Your Ground) shoots and kills one or more persons.

The resultant uproar (and wave of retaliatory violence) will be endlessly ugly and in the end the only person to benefit will be none other than our own combover Mussolini…

Who knows, maybe they are conspiring to provoke such a scenario, specifically to game the election?

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Jenner7  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:45:33am

re: #276 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yeah, Ghost Adventures is too theatrical. I’ve never watched Paranormal State.

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Kryptik  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:46:04am

re: #279 Targetpractice

2001-2015: “MUSLIMS ARE EVIL! THEIR RELIGION PROMOTES WAR AND CONQUEST! THEIR HOLY BOOK CONDONES LYING TO NONBELIEVERS!”

2001-2015: “STOP CALLING ME A BIGOT!!!!”

Had to fix that. These two lines have been concurrent since at least 9/11.

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darthstar  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:46:16am

re: #175 Belafon

I also like what Clinton said:

Translation: It’s a load of crap.

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calochortus  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:48:06am

Hi ho. Time to attack this morning’s to-do list. What are the odds that by the time I come back here, niceness will have broken out all over the country?
(Yeah. Well there’s always hope.)

BBL

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:48:24am

re: #281 Jenner7

Yeah, Ghost Adventures is too theatrical. I’ve never watched Paranormal State.

Google it sometime. It’s off the air now since it was exposed to be almost completely faked. My wife was hooked on it until I did some checking. They would always go into a place assuming from the outset that it was haunted then find “evidence” that it was (mostly bs and stuff that was faked) then on top of that they had a psychic who “didn’t know anything about the case” but really they had briefed them before hand. Left me shaking my head and laughing.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:48:32am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

What would you know about civilization, Ben? Western or otherwise.

Like most of the revolutionaries masquerading as conservatives you’re as thorough going a barbarian as ever walked this planet.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:49:00am

But remember folks, Pamela is a Ted Cruz supporter

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Targetpractice  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:49:39am

re: #282 Kryptik

Had to fix that. These two lines have been concurrent since at least 9/11.

True, though it only seems now, after over a decade of letting them run off at the mouth, that they’re getting more pushback than simply from an editorial here or a short speech there. They’re getting widespread pushback and they don’t know how to handle it in any way but whining that everybody’s being mean to them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:51:26am

re: #284 calochortus

Hi ho. Time to attack this morning’s to-do list. What are the odds that by the time I come back here, niceness will have broken out all over the country?
(Yeah. Well there’s always hope.)

BBL

Something like this?

To Do List:

1. Make list.
2. Check off first item on list.
3. Celebrate accomplishment with a nap.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:53:46am
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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:53:51am

re: #275 Jenner7

Remember: There’s no such thing as Islamophobia—it’s just some PC bullshit liberals & Muslim apologists use to avoid criticism!!11!

People who say that sort of remind me of antisemites who claim the Jews use the Holocaust as a type of emotional blackmail to score sympathy points (which is a far more egregious assertion, IMO).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:54:37am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

I’m just amazed at Ben’s capacity for coming up with new ways to be an asshole 24/7

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Would that be the Western Civilization that exterminated or enslaved native people wherever resources could be found, for the profit of the enslavers; that put on bigger and bloodier wars every 20-50 years for as long as anyone can remember, that perpetrated the most ruthlessly efficient genocide in history, and created weapons so fearsome they could destroy all life on Earth? THAT Western Civilization?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:54:59am

Don’t be stupid, be a smarty, etc.

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wrenchwench  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:55:21am

Never look at the comments, even for a post like this one:

Stay safe out there.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:55:31am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

I’m just amazed at Ben’s capacity for coming up with new ways to be an asshole 24/7

Ben, it’s one thing to know that there are Muslims that want to kill others (including Muslims). It’s a completely different thing to assume that any particular Muslim is part of that group. That’s bigotry. And when you assume that most Muslims are part of that group, then you’re into pure asshole territory.

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Teukka  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:56:17am

Gratuitously stolen from elsewhere:

WASHINGTON—Expressing its concern that the fixation had grown “a little out of control,” the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reported Thursday that it was pretty creeped out by how obsessed Americans are with it. The Second Amendment later admitted how relieved it was to be protected from “all the psychos out there” by a 3/8-inch-thick pane of bulletproof glass.

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ObserverArt  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:56:50am

re: #264 lawhawk

Where the campaign hats are made. They’re mostly made at a union shop in Newark, New Jersey.

Of course, Trump decided to get his campaign hats made at a non union shop in CA, because he’s a cheap bastard who thinks only of his profits.

That’s because Trump is a great negotiator. /

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Dr. Matt  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:57:54am

What’s the current betting line that Ben will have one or more estranged children?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 8:58:07am

HURR HURR WHY IS ALL TEH LEFTISTS FREAKING OUT & CALLING DONALD TRUMP A NAZI & OTHER MEAN NAMES!!!! WHY CAN’T WE JUST ALL SIT AROUND CALMLY & DISCUSS WAYS TO GET RID OF ALL TEH MUSLIMS WITHOUT BEING ALL MEAN!!!!!

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Lidane  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:00:00am

Stopped clock is stopped:

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Dr. Matt  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:01:13am

re: #300 Lidane

Stopped clock is stopped:

He’ll be walking back his comments by 3 pm CST.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:04:04am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:05:35am

POTUS is talking about slavery now.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:06:03am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

IMPEACH. REPEAL!

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:06:15am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Right, Ben—everyone should just STFD & STFU and stop making comparisons until they’re putting Muslims in concentration camps and firing up the ovens. Of course, by then they’ll probably have Jews on the list as well, somewhere in between the atheists, Mormons, blacks, hispanics, LGBT people, and possibly Catholics (eventually).

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:07:15am
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Brian J.  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:07:33am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

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The GOP version:
“The story so far: In the beginning the Thirteenth Amendment was passed. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.”

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Franklin  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:07:58am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

Translation:

ONLY IF YOUR A POOPYHEAD

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:08:52am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

Funny how they never cite an exact number, much less an reliable source.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:08:53am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

I’m just amazed at Ben’s capacity for coming up with new ways to be an asshole 24/7

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Too bad for you Ben that most everyone on your side of the ledger is proudly in the first camp.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:08:59am

POTUS just gave credit to “radical” Republicans for passing the 13th Amendment

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b.d.  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:09:34am

re: #303 The Vicious Babushka

POTUS is talking about slavery now.

Is he for it or again it?

//

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:09:37am
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Bubblehead II  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:09:50am

re: #269 Jenner7

I posted on my FB yesterday four stories of Muslim hate incidents with the hashtag #Trumpeffect. Looks like I have two more stories to add.

Sigh…

Might as well as this to your list as well.

Islamic Center of Twin Falls vandalized: TFPD considering it a hate crime

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:10:38am

POTUS talking about Faith & Hope now

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andres  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:10:55am

re: #194 whitebeach

Good lord. Why not two, three … MANY penises?

I wouldn’t worry about that possibility. Most guys have trouble enough managing one. As cool as it might sound, the novelty will wear off pretty quickly.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:11:01am
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b.d.  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:11:05am

re: #308 Franklin

[Embedded content]

Translation:

ONLY IF YOUR A POOPYHEAD

LEAVE LITTLE BENNY GOEBBELS SHAPIRO ALONE!!

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ObserverArt  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:11:05am

re: #303 The Vicious Babushka

POTUS is talking about slavery now.

Why is he not over there in Syria fighting terrorists instead of dividing this country further??? There is absolutely no reason to talk about racism and bigotry in this country. We are long past that, and Obummer keeps dragging it back up.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:11:09am

re: #269 Jenner7

I posted on my FB yesterday four stories of Muslim hate incidents with the hashtag #Trumpeffect. Looks like I have two more stories to add.

Sigh…

And yet another: Vikings Fan Says He Was Confronted At Game By Man Who Demanded To Know If He Was A Refugee

Writing in the Star Tribune, Mayell says as soon as he found his seat, he was confronted by a nearby fan.

What I didn’t expect was for a man to push aside other people and point his finger in my face, demanding to know if I was a refugee. He needed to make sure I wasn’t a refugee, he said. There was anger in his face and vehemence in his accusation.

I was stunned. He didn’t know anything about me. We were complete strangers. But somewhere in his mind, all he saw was a terrorist, based on nothing more than the color of my skin. He was white, and I wasn’t. He didn’t see anything else.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:11:13am

re: #300 Lidane

Stopped clock is stopped:

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BREAKING: Pot calls kettle black!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:11:20am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:12:04am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:13:01am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:14:01am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:14:28am

re: #296 Teukka

Gratuitously stolen from elsewhere:

WASHINGTON—Expressing its concern that the fixation had grown “a little out of control,” the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reported Thursday that it was pretty creeped out by how obsessed Americans are with it. The Second Amendment later admitted how relieved it was to be protected from “all the psychos out there” by a 3/8-inch-thick pane of bulletproof glass.

Meanwhile the “Well-regulated militia” clause of the Second Amendment is so fed up with being ignored by most Americans that it has gone off to sulk with the 18th Amendment…

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:14:47am

Wingnuts on POTUS speech==>

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:15:35am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:16:03am
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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:16:35am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts on POTUS speech==>

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Two more added to my block list.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:17:14am

Now they’re praying.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:17:26am

re: #329 The Vicious Babushka

re: #330 CuriousLurker

Make that three.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:17:59am
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Brian J.  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:18:09am

re: #329 The Vicious Babushka

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Yeah, that third term bid’s looking really shaky. (Actually, Obama’s in better shape with the public than he was at this time in 2011.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:18:19am
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ObserverArt  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:19:05am

re: #319 ObserverArt

Why is he not over there in Syria fighting terrorists instead of dividing this country further??? There is absolutely no reason to talk about racism and bigotry in this country. We are long past that, and Obummer keeps dragging it back up.

Damn Wingnuts are no fun. You try to mock them and then the next thing you know they put out tweets that are almost exactly like your mockery.

Hrrrmph.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:21:26am

re: #335 The Vicious Babushka

As we know it says in the Bible, you shall be punished by the actions of your ancestors.

//

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:22:43am

re: #333 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t quite get this one since you pointed out that Obama thanked the radical Republicans.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:22:51am

Dim Jim is still the Stupidest Man On The Internet

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andres  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:23:08am

re: #328 The Vicious Babushka

Obama is a great speaker, that’s for sure. A shame he can’t run for a third term.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:23:09am

re: #338 Belafon

I don’t quite get this one since you pointed out that Obama thanked the radical Republicans.

They ignored that of course.

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Jenner7  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:23:33am

re: #320 Dr. Matt

Muslim isn’t a race, morons!

Yeah, well, you seem to only notice the color of their skin, dontcha ya??

Re: the article itself. I find it so sad that not one person stood up for this man who was being verbally assaulted.

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:23:46am

re: #340 andres

Obama is a great speaker, that’s for sure. A shame he can’t run for a third term.

He’s already said Michelle wouldn’t let him.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:24:16am

re: #332 CuriousLurker

I freaking HATE that fake “I’m a badass” scowl he’s wearing on his book cover. Then there are the images of him as a knight/Crusader, a Revolutionary War type hero, Ted Cruz as a tattooed tough guy (ROFL), etc.

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Alephnaught  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:24:41am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

I’m just amazed at Ben’s capacity for coming up with new ways to be an asshole 24/7

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So let’s look at these statements:
1) “Bigotry = no Muslim is capable of embracing Western civilization”
2) “Bigotry =/= a huge number of Muslims do not embrace Western civilization”

A policy of allowing no Muslims into one’s country at all is effectively 1) in practice, so by anyone supporting such a policy is a bigot by Ben’s logic.

Statement 2) is basically just a weasel-worded version of statement 1), since it singles out Muslims based solely on their religion to make a statement about them without any supporting evidence. You don’t diminish the bigotry of pre-judging a whole group on unproven assumptions by diminishing the size of the group a little.

Even if you’re wimping out, and saying “Group A tends to…”, you’re still ascribing to each and every one of them an inherent behavioural tendancy based on nothing other than their race, religion, sexuality or whatever. That’s still bigotry.

So basically, by Ben’s own strawman argument, he is a bigot. And a coward.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:24:53am

re: #340 andres

Obama is a great speaker, that’s for sure. A shame he can’t run for a third term.

He won’t need to, he will just seize power and name himself Dictator for Life before November.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:26:12am

I did not realize that there was a rule that people whose ancestors once owned slaves are not allowed to talk about slavery.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:26:17am

re: #336 ObserverArt

Damn Wingnuts are no fun. You try to mock them and then the next thing you know they put out tweets that are almost exactly like your mockery.

Hrrrmph.

Poe’s Law is dead—the GOP killed it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:27:00am
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:27:07am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

Oh, so now he’s down on Hitler analogies.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:28:08am
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Lidane  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:29:26am
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Jayleia  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:30:25am
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:30:40am

Fuck you Scalia

Affirmative Action Sends Blacks to Schools too Advanced for them

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:30:46am

re: #342 Jenner7

Muslim isn’t a race, morons!

Yeah, well, you seem to only notice the color of their skin, dontcha ya??

Re: the article itself. I find it so sad that not one person stood up for this man who was being verbally assaulted.

Reminds me of the woman in Austin, which is probably the most liberal place in Texas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:30:56am

re: #351 Stanley Sea Toujours

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Well that”s it! Once DT is President, we get a new national symbol! Those eagles are stoooopid!!!

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Dr. Matt  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:32:39am

re: #352 Lidane

Pamela Geller says a “large conspiracy” of political, media and academic leaders seeking to destroy civilization t.co
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) December 9, 2015

How exactly would that benefit leaders of politics, media and academia?

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ObserverArt  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:33:07am

re: #354 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Fuck you Scalia

Affirmative Action Sends Blacks to Schools too Advanced for them

WTF? That man needs to take off the robe…he is soiling it.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:33:17am

re: #352 Lidane

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If Geller considers herself a top product of said civilization, then I say let it circle the drain.

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Jenner7  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:33:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:33:36am

re: #354 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Fuck you Scalia

Affirmative Action Sends Blacks to Schools too Advanced for them

I’m certain that Clarence Thomas agrees with Scalia…

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Teukka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:34:18am

re: #357 Dr. Matt

How exactly would that benefit leaders of politics, media and academia?

That’s a librul trick question!!!!!

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stpaulbear  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:34:35am

re: #352 Lidane

98% of the people in this country is trying to destroy our America! Why can’t you see!!

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Teukka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:35:07am

re: #359 CuriousLurker

If Geller considers herself a top product of said civilization, then I say let it circle the drain.

Let it circle the drain, with a chaser of Sodium Hydroxide so she won’t clog the pipes.

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Jenner7  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:35:14am

Bwahahahaha!

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ObserverArt  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:38:16am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m certain that Clarence Thomas agrees with Scalia…

And Ben Carson.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:38:26am

This is what wingnuts got out of POTUS speech==>

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:39:20am
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Dr. Matt  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:40:49am

Ammosexuals are nothing but children. More proof that have zero business owning a firearm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:41:46am

re: #368 The Vicious Babushka

Good thing your party didn’t get their way 150 years ago

Good thing the GOP did not get its way 50 years ago when the Democrats passed the Civil Rights Act…

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retired cynic  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:43:18am

re: #269 Jenner7

I posted on my FB yesterday four stories of Muslim hate incidents with the hashtag #Trumpeffect. Looks like I have two more stories to add.

Sigh…

This ought to be a page, where you can keep adding incidents.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:43:19am

re: #369 Dr. Matt

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Ammosexuals are nothing but children. More proof that have zero business owning a firearm.

I guess if Obama wants to end gun ownership in America, all he needs to do is to come out in favor of mandatory open carry for all citizens, right?

/

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:44:59am

re: #370 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Good thing the GOP did not get its way 50 years ago when the Democrats passed the Civil Rights Act…

HURR HURR IT WAS REPUBLICANS THAT PASSED TEH CIVIL RIGHTS!!!!! ROBERT BYRD A DEMOCRAT FILIBUSTERED AGAINST IT!!!!! MLK WAS A REPUBLICAN!!!!! U LIBTARDS DON’T KNOWS TEH REAL HISTORY OF TEH THINGS THAT WE HERE FROM RUSH LIMBAUGH & WORLD NET DAILY!!!!! TRUTHS!!!!1!!!!!

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Dr. Matt  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:45:19am

re: #372 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I guess if Obama wants to end gun ownership in America, all he needs to do is to come out in favor of mandatory open carry for all citizens, right?

/

I’m stealing that….sue me. :)

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:46:19am

re: #354 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Fuck you Scalia

Affirmative Action Sends Blacks to Schools too Advanced for them

Best comment in that thread:

Republican affirmative action hurts America by placing idiots on the SCOTUS who are obviously incompetent.

See Scalia and Thomas.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:48:44am

Why do they call this guy Bilbo when he so obviously looks like Gollum==>

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:51:48am

When that thing you were thinking about buying but don’t really need isn’t on sale anymore.

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:52:41am

re: #367 The Vicious Babushka

This is what wingnuts got out of POTUS speech==>

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Are Mulsims anything like Muslins? I get so confused by the wingnuts’ command of language and spelling.
//

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ObserverArt  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:52:55am

Backwoods Sleuth,

I was following the link in Dr. Matt’s #261 to an article at rawstory. com when I saw this. Thought you’d be interested.

Rawstory - Kentucky governor pardons man who blasted 12 year old with a shotgun over ‘ding dong ditch’ prank

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Jenner7  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:54:13am

Here are all the incidents that I know of that I put on my FB. If someone wants to make a page, here are the links.

startribune.com

rawstory.com

rawstory.com

kmvt.com

rawstory.com

philly.com

facebook.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:55:49am

re: #379 ObserverArt

Backwoods Sleuth,

I was following the link in Dr. Matt’s #261 to an article at rawstory. com when I saw this. Thought you’d be interested.

Rawstory - Kentucky governor pardons man who blasted 12 year old with a shotgun over ‘ding dong ditch’ prank

yeah, I saw that a couple of days ago when the pardon list was announced.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:56:36am

re: #368 The Vicious Babushka

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Remember folks, whites aren’t responsible for their ancestors’ actions but modern day Democrats are.

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UrbanAchiever  Dec 9, 2015 • 9:59:08am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ah yes, Justice Thomas. Our first mute justice.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:01:10am

re: #354 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Fuck you Scalia

Affirmative Action Sends Blacks to Schools too Advanced for them

There’s something very wrong with that guy and course he’s a model judge to all the Republicans running.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:02:04am

re: #382 Timothy Watson

Remember folks, whites aren’t responsible for their ancestors’ actions but modern day Democrats are.

Shit they do the same thing with the Africans too. Everything is everyone but conservatives fault.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:02:49am

re: #385 HappyWarrior

Shit they do the same thing with the Africans too. Everything is everyone but conservatives fault.

“Party of Personal Responsibility”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:03:32am

re: #386 The Vicious Babushka

“Party of Personal Responsibility”

Yep. Ha I like jokes don’t you?

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bratwurst  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:04:20am

Ok then…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:05:05am

re: #388 bratwurst

Ok then…

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Oh? This will be fun.

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:05:17am

And now the “Ooops, made a mistake, sorry” excuse joins “Affluenza” as privileged excuse.

A southern Utah county commissioner convicted of federal misdemeanors for organizing an ATV protest ride through a closed canyon made a mistake and wouldn’t do it again, his lawyers said in new court documents…

He has already been severely penalized for his actions - far beyond what he ever imagined,” lawyer Jeffrey Man wrote in court documents filed Monday.

Awww, poor little asshat is SOOOO sorry. This is the asshat who led the ride through protected park areas because poor Cliven Bundy was so badly persecuted by BLM.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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andres  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:05:51am

re: #388 bratwurst

Ok then…

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You know you’ve gone a bridge too far when Netanyahu rejects your ideas.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:07:14am

re: #391 andres

You know you’ve gone a bridge too far when Netanyahu rejects your ideas.

Alex Jones was even distancing himself a little.

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Skip Intro  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:07:55am

re: #391 andres

You know you’ve gone a bridge too far when Netanyahu rejects your ideas.

So is Trump’s trip to Israel off now?

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b.d.  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:08:27am

re: #388 bratwurst

Ok then…

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Netanyahu has always been a Muslim appeasing lib

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:09:27am

They’re doing a remake of Hunger Games with Ted Cruz as Katniss?
That’s gonna suck so hard.

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Jenner7  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:09:47am

re: #390 BeachDem

You don’t mess with our protected lands. In 2013, some idiots knocked over a rock formation in Goblin Valley. They said it was going to fall anyway.

huffingtonpost.com

Goblin Valley is just beautiful. One of my favorite places in Southern Utah.

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ObserverArt  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:09:50am

re: #391 andres

You know you’ve gone a bridge too far when Netanyahu rejects your ideas.

But will he reject Trumps coming to Israel in December?

I hope he does…that would be the real message.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:10:28am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

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From Nazi party platforms 25 points:

4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.

8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:11:48am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

They’re doing a remake of Hunger Games with Ted Cruz as Katniss?
That’s gonna suck so hard.

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Ted Cruz is catching…Cease & Desist.

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Jayleia  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:11:54am

re: #392 HappyWarrior

Waiwha!? When did this happen? (I suppose I could just google it…)

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:12:54am

re: #400 Jayleia

Waiwha!? When did this happen? (I suppose I could just google it…)

There was a link here.

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ObserverArt  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:13:02am

re: #399 Timothy Watson

Ted Cruz is catching…Cease & Desist.

Hey…I saw where you broke the 10,000 upding mark. Woot!

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UrbanAchiever  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:13:59am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

Ted Cruz sounds kinda like herpes.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:14:31am
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:15:15am

In related news the National Weather Service just issued a Stage 4 Anti-semitism Alert, as Trump supporters become aware of Netanyahu’s position conditions favor wide spread and persistent blaming of Jews.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:16:33am

In case anyone isn’t aware of it and is interested, I came across the tidbit below yesterday after looking into Trump’s “So what? They’re Muslim” spokeswoman. She’s a full metal wingnut with a sketchy background:

Her 1997 mugshot can be found at this 100% RWNJ blog.

I’d usually applaud even a wingnut woman for overcoming a rough upbringing, regardless of how much I disliked her personally, but not this one.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:16:52am

re: #388 bratwurst

Ok then…

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If I make a “pigs fly” comment, do I get in trouble?

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:17:12am

re: #396 Jenner7

You don’t mess with our protected lands. In 2013, some idiots knocked over a rock formation in Goblin Valley. They said it was going to fall anyway.

huffingtonpost.com

Goblin Valley is just beautiful. One of my favorite places in Southern Utah.

I remember that—total jerks.

And this latest douchenozzle, who has “suffered enough already” was named County Commissioner of the Year and his fellow travelers tried to get taxpayers to pay for his defense—when that failed, they chipped in their own money—oh yes, he’s suffered so. Sniff.

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blueraven  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:17:13am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:17:56am

re: #409 blueraven

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Yeah this isn’t going to hurt him one bit. Welcome to Peak Wingnut, this is your pilot Donald speaking.

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bratwurst  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:18:47am

There is a RWNJ talking point going gangbusters about Jimmy Carter banning Iranians from entering the US during the hostage crisis. This seems to be the source. How can Trump be Hitler if Carter did this?

Seems like DF is not the only Republican who fails to understand the establishment clause. Get busy, Frank! /

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:18:56am

re: #354 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

But racism is dead, right Roberts?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:19:27am

re: #412 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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But racism is dead, right Roberts?

Roberts is a doughface asshole.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:19:50am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

They’re doing a remake of Hunger Games with Ted Cruz as Katniss?
That’s gonna suck so hard.

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Ted Cruz is catching fire? I wouldn’t piss on him to put him out.

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blueraven  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:20:10am

He will destroy ISIS. Carpet Bomb Raqqa! But first…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:20:33am

re: #411 bratwurst

There is a RWNJ talking point going gangbusters about Jimmy Carter banning Iranians from entering the US during the hostage crisis. This seems to be the source. How can Trump be Hitler if Carter did this?

Seems like DF is not the only Republican who fails to understand the establishment clause. Get busy, Frank! /

Yeah some people were asking for help to debunk that on Facebook last night. Seems that Carter banned American travel to Iran. i also know for a fact that a lot of Iranians did emigrate to the U.S around the time of the revolution.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:20:50am

re: #388 bratwurst

Ok then…

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Didn’t he recently imply that the Nazis got their genocidal ideas from Arab Muslims…? I can’t… I just… okay… up is down, hot is cold, yes means no…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:20:51am

re: #415 blueraven

He will destroy ISIS. Carpet Bomb Raqqa! But first…

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Oh good to know Teabag Ted is serious.

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UrbanAchiever  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:21:18am

re: #406 CuriousLurker

Birds of a feather…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:21:20am

re: #417 CuriousLurker

Didn’t he recently imply that the Nazis got their genocidal ideas from Arab Muslims…? I can’t… I just… okay… up is down, hot is cold, yes means no…

Bibi? Yep he was acting like Hitler didn’t have any genocidal intentions until the Mulfti got in his ear.

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blueraven  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:22:10am

haha

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stpaulbear  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:22:12am

re: #415 blueraven

He will destroy ISIS. Carpet Bomb Raqqa! But first…

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I wonder if Rubio was there? He’s been skipping these briefings too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:22:23am

re: #416 HappyWarrior

Yeah some people were asking for help to debunk that on Facebook last night. Seems that Carter banned American travel to Iran. i also know for a fact that a lot of Iranians did emigrate to the U.S around the time of the revolution.

Because Iranianism is just a subset of Islam, like Sufi and Hindu?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:22:58am

re: #421 blueraven

haha

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Oh man no offense to Boy George but Ted does look like him.

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Skip Intro  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:23:00am

re: #406 CuriousLurker

From Texas, of course.

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UrbanAchiever  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:23:18am

re: #415 blueraven

Also, he may have actually learned something. Information is kryptonite to the wingnut mind.

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Testy Toad T  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:23:22am

I, for one, am all in favor of getting Cruz and Rubio to spend as little time at the levers of power as possible. Is there any chance we can convince a few hundred of their colleagues in both houses to join them in not actually coming to work?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:23:45am

re: #422 stpaulbear

I wonder if Rubio was there? He’s been skipping these briefings too.

Probably. I have to admit as much as I despise Rand Paul, he does actually seem to vote on shit as opposed to those two.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:24:07am

re: #424 HappyWarrior

Oh man no offense to Boy George but Ted does look like him.

Bastard child of Grandpa Munster and Boy George?

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:24:16am

re: #406 CuriousLurker

In case anyone isn’t aware of it and is interested I came across the tidbit below yesterday after looking into Trump’s “So what? They’re Muslim” spokeswoman. She’s a full metal wingnut with a sketchy background:

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Her 1997 mugshot can be found at this 100% RWNJ blog.

I’d usually applaud even a wingnut woman for overcoming a rough upbringing, regardless of how much I disliked her personally, but not this one.

Huh—this was all I needed to read:

Pierson has seemed to flounder, despite her ties to Ted Cruz’s 2012 campaign (and the endorsement of both Cruz’s father, Rafael, and Sarah Palin,)

Wonder what soured her on Cruz and led her to Trump? ($$$$$?)

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:24:29am

re: #412 klys (maker of Silmarils)

But racism is dead, right Roberts?

Gotta be on Scalia’s Greatest Hits album.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:24:53am

re: #412 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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But racism is dead, right Roberts?

But it’s perfectly acceptable for a better qualified (black or white) student to not get in because some bigwig alumni wants his mouth-breathing son to get in.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:25:04am

re: #429 Blind Frog Belly White

Bastard child of Grandpa Munster and Boy George?

Joseph McCarthy too.

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Skip Intro  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:25:11am

re: #412 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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But racism is dead, right Roberts?

When awoken, Justice Thomas just pointed to Scalia and gave the thumbs up.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:25:22am

re: #432 Timothy Watson

But it’s perfectly acceptable for a better qualified (black or white) student to not get in because some bigwig alumni wants his mouth-breathing son to get in.

Well of course. //

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Kryptik  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:26:29am

re: #410 HappyWarrior

Yeah this isn’t going to hurt him one bit. Welcome to Peak Wingnut, this is your pilot Donald speaking.

Peak Wingnut is the ultimate mirage: closer you approach, the farther away it gets.

re: #412 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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But racism is dead, right Roberts?

Of course racism exists. Look at BLM, the most racist rabble rousing hooligan thugs ever! Just like how there wasn’t any more sexism until those goddamn feminist fascists and SJWs started oppressing all the men like the monsters they are!!

(Again, god help me, this is shit I hear honest to god without any irony or snark, and it pretty much drowns out all the sanity. Feels like at least 75% of my online interaction especially boils down to this)

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:26:55am

re: #432 Timothy Watson

But it’s perfectly acceptable for a better qualified (black or white) student to not get in because some bigwig alumni wants his mouth-breathing son to get in.

Sure. Why do you hate Amercia?

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:27:38am

re: #432 Timothy Watson

But it’s perfectly acceptable for a better qualified (black or white) student to not get in because some bigwig alumni wants his mouth-breathing son to get in.

George W Bush should have been sent to a less challenging institution…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:28:03am

We’re a country that seems to think it’s awarding productivity if an executive at a company losing profits gives himself a a nice raise but if fast food workers want to be paid well enough to pay the bills then they’re greedy moochers. I don’t understand the world sometimes.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:28:21am

re: #406 CuriousLurker

She’s on CNN right now.

Click

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:28:34am

LOL

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Skip Intro  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:28:42am

Here’s a radicalized area where the police won’t go. It isn’t in Paris or London though.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:29:11am

I was actually watching a documentary on UNC’s Dean Smith last night. One of the truly great coaches but also a great guy too of college basketball. I’ve always thought higher of UNC because of Coach Smith.

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Kragar  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:29:17am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:29:32am

re: #438 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

George W Bush should have been sent to a less challenging institution…

Sarah Palin kept seeking less and less challenging institutions till she found one that would graduate her.

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UrbanAchiever  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:29:59am

It’s almost as if Scalia thinks prospective black students should go to some different, separate school. You know, where they’d get a roughly equivalent education. But separately.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:30:35am

re: #439 HappyWarrior

We’re a country that seems to think it’s awarding productivity if an executive at a company losing profits gives himself a a nice raise but if fast food workers want to be paid well enough to pay the bills then they’re greedy moochers. I don’t understand the world sometimes.

When investors organize and combine their interests to maximize the benefits from their investments and form a corporation, that is praised as the very heart and soul of capitalism.

When workers organize to maximize their bargaining power for pay and benefits from a corporation, that is derided as union thuggery.

Go figure.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:30:40am

re: #443 HappyWarrior

UNC was the Dallas Cowboys of college basketball.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:30:52am

re: #446 UrbanAchiever

It’s almost as if Scalia thinks prospective black students should go to some different, separate school. You know, where they’d get a roughly equivalent education. But separately.

Ssshhh! That’s Donald Trump’s next idea.

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Jenner7  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:30:53am

My FB profile pic is Black Lives Matter and almost every time I comment on a political story, I’m called a racist.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:30:58am

re: #446 UrbanAchiever

It’s almost as if Scalia thinks prospective black students should go to some different, separate school. You know, where they’d get a roughly equivalent education. But separately.

We could call it separate but equal or something like that!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:31:36am

re: #446 UrbanAchiever

It’s almost as if Scalia thinks prospective black students should go to some different, separate school. You know, where they’d get a roughly equivalent education. But separately.

Then they would not need separate drinking fountains…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:31:41am

re: #447 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

When investors organize and combine their interests to maximize the benefits from their investments and form a corporation, that is praised as the very heart and soul of capitalism.

When workers organize to maximize their bargaining power for pay and benefits from a corporation, that is derided as union thuggery.

Go figure.

Kinda like how crazy and rich is ‘Eccentric’, while crazy and poor is just crazy.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:32:01am

Reminder: Scalia thinks Brown was wrongly decided
Reminder 2.0- Scalia is consistently cited by Republicans as a model justice
Reminder 3.0- The president appoints Supreme Court justices, fucking vote asshole.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:32:25am

re: #451 HappyWarrior

We could call it separate but equal or something like that!

That has racist overtones. How about equal but separate?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:32:40am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:32:49am

re: #409 blueraven

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So that’s what, 9% of the US population?

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Khal Wimpo  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:33:38am

Latest polls show Trump support INCREASING in GOP in the wake of his fascist statements on banning Muslims.

elections.huffingtonpost.com

It’s a slick interactive poll tracker that lets you drag around and see the meteoric rise of Herr Drumpf.

It’s kinda addictive. to click and drag the slider around and watch the poll numbers for Yeb!? just sink into despair with the rise of Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:33:59am

re: #439 HappyWarrior

We’re a country that seems to think it’s awarding productivity if an executive at a company losing profits gives himself a a nice raise but if fast food workers want to be paid well enough to pay the bills then they’re greedy moochers. I don’t understand the world sometimes.

[BenShapiro]BECAUSE TEH EXECUTIVES WORKS HARD & KNOWS HOW TO MANAGE MONEYS BUT IF U GIVES MOAR MONEYS TO TEH POORS THEY WILL JUST WASTE IT ON FOOD & SHELTER!!!!1!!1!!!!11!!![/BenShapiro]

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Jenner7  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:34:18am

re: #454 HappyWarrior

BUT BOTH PARTIES ARE THE SAME!!!
//

Nu uh. Not even close.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:34:22am

re: #457 Eventual Carrion

It’s also about 21% of the voting population, and given the way GOPers turn out better than Democrats, maybe even higher.

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:34:40am

re: #443 HappyWarrior

I was actually watching a documentary on UNC’s Dean Smith last night. One of the truly great coaches but also a great guy too of college basketball. I’ve always thought higher of UNC because of Coach Smith.

He was quite a guy. I was with a UNC fan when we heard the news about his death and she burst into tears.

deadspin.com

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:34:51am

re: #458 Khal Wimpo

Latest polls show Trump support INCREASING in GOP in the wake of his fascist statements on banning Muslims.

elections.huffingtonpost.com

[Embedded content]

It’s kinda addictive. to click and drag the slider around and watch the poll numbers for Yeb!? just sink into despair with the rise of Trump.

Okay, I’m convinced that Trump could call word for word with Jew replaced by Muslim in the Nuremberg Laws and he’d probably raise in the polls still. GOP voters want a bigoted asshole to be their presidential nominee.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:35:20am

Meanwhile, I retweeted David Weigel who posted on Marco Rubio’s efforts to undermine the ACA. Rubio’s particular contribution relates to the exchanges and something called “risk corridors”, which I’ll admit I don’t know much about. Seems as if the law allows the government to aid insurers who experience losses on the exchange. Rubio and those of a like mind want to prevent that to encourage insurers to drop out of the exchanges and for the exchanges and private health care coverage to fail. So then they can call it a failed law.

I’ll never get over how much some people and public officials want to make sure people don’t have healthcare.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:36:15am

re: #463 HappyWarrior

Okay, I’m convinced that Trump could call word for word with Jew replaced by Muslim in the Nuremberg Laws and he’d probably raise in the polls still. GOP voters want a bigoted asshole to be their presidential nominee.

They always did. They just got tired of having to decode the dog whistles. They want someone who’s upfront about it.

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Kryptik  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:36:55am

re: #450 Jenner7

My FB profile pic is Black Lives Matter and almost every time I comment on a political story, I’m called a racist.

Seems like to most of the country, the only real racism is racism toward whites, and BLM is the the new Super Mega Ultra Blackty-Black Panther Party of Kill Whitey.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:37:00am

re: #458 Khal Wimpo

Latest polls show Trump support INCREASING in GOP in the wake of his fascist statements on banning Muslims.

elections.huffingtonpost.com

[Embedded content]

It’s kinda addictive. to click and drag the slider around and watch the poll numbers for Yeb!? just sink into despair with the rise of Trump.

Why is no one talking about the Rand! Surge!!!

//

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:37:56am

re: #462 BeachDem

He was quite a guy. I was with a UNC fan when we heard the news about his death and she burst into tears.

deadspin.com

The former players interviewed were talking about how he stayed in their lives after they left school. He really was a great guy.They made an interesting point about how he really is a bridge between basketball’s founding (he played for Phog Allen who was coached by James Naismith, the founder of the game) and Dean of course coached Michael Jordan. Great guy. He showed a lot of courage by standing up racial equality. He was also a huge death penalty opponent as well. Flat out told the Dem governor of NC- “You’re a murderer and so am I.”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:38:16am

re: #465 Blind Frog Belly White

They always did. They just got tired of having to decode the dog whistles. They want someone who’s upfront about it.

Very true.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:38:20am

re: #464 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Meanwhile, I retweeted David Weigel who posted on Marco Rubio’s efforts to undermine the ACA. Rubio’s particular contribution relates to the exchanges and something called “risk corridors”, which I’ll admit I don’t know much about. Seems as if the law allows the government to aid insurers who experience losses on the exchange. Rubio and those of a like mind want to prevent that to encourage insurers to drop out of the exchanges and for the exchanges and private health care coverage to fail. So then they can call it a failed law.

I’ll never get over how much some people and public officials want to make sure people don’t have healthcare.

In 100 years, unless we have always been at war with EastAsia EurAsia by then, I’d expect historians to look back on this period and have real difficulty explaining the GOP to students.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:39:08am

re: #460 Jenner7

BUT BOTH PARTIES ARE THE SAME!!!
//

Nu uh. Not even close.

Yeah if I ever hear that again, I may have to go apeshit. Yeah Hillary’s not perfect but goddamnit she’s not a bigoted asshole.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:39:10am

What do you think the odds are that if Trump were President, he would push to extend a security zone on the other side of the Rio Grande, and that security zone might include the industrial area where a lot of American companies built factories? He tells the UN that it’s also a humanitarian operation because of all the criminals and rapists there. Does the UN let this go in the belief that he’ll be satisfied with that slight border correction?

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wrenchwench  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:39:17am

[…]

Current National Assembly head Diosdado Cabello added that the government would appoint 12 new supreme court judges, among other “tasks,” before Dec 31.

The new legislature, two-thirds of which will be made up of opposition politicians, is set to begin work in January.

Venezuela’s government was stunned by Sunday’s elections, winning just 55 seats against the opposition’s 112 and losing control of the National Assembly for the first time since former President Hugo Chavez took office in 1999.

One of the opposition’s main aims in the new legislature is to secure the release of jailed politicians, most notably Leopoldo Lopez who was imprisoned for leading anti-government protests in 2014 that triggered violence leading to more than 40 deaths.

[…]

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BeachDem  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:39:49am

re: #454 HappyWarrior

Reminder: Scalia thinks Brown was wrongly decided
Reminder 2.0- Scalia is consistently cited by Republicans as a model justice
Reminder 3.0- The president appoints Supreme Court justices, fucking vote asshole.

Reminder 4.0—Scalia thinks that even if somebody is wrongly convicted, he/she probably did something else bad anyway.

At the moment where the moderator indicated that the innocent man was about to be executed for a crime he didn’t commit, Justice Scalia spoke up: “Well, he probably did something else wrong anyway.”

learner.org

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:39:57am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:40:09am

re: #464 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Meanwhile, I retweeted David Weigel who posted on Marco Rubio’s efforts to undermine the ACA. Rubio’s particular contribution relates to the exchanges and something called “risk corridors”, which I’ll admit I don’t know much about. Seems as if the law allows the government to aid insurers who experience losses on the exchange. Rubio and those of a like mind want to prevent that to encourage insurers to drop out of the exchanges and for the exchanges and private health care coverage to fail. So then they can call it a failed law.

I’ll never get over how much some people and public officials want to make sure people don’t have healthcare.

Reducing the number of Americans with insurance just makes wingnuts like JRubin (WashPost) giddy.

477
HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:41:06am

re: #474 BeachDem

Reminder 4.0—Scalia thinks that even if somebody is wrongly convicted, he/she probably did something else bad anyway.

At the moment where the moderator indicated that the innocent man was about to be executed for a crime he didn’t commit, Justice Scalia spoke up: “Well, he probably did something else wrong anyway.”

learner.org

He really is an evil bastard. It will be a happy day when he’s off the bench. Man such a shame that the Dems of the 80’s did not see this coming. They were right about Bork but I don’t think Scalia got a single no vote. Souter had more no votes than Scalia did.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:41:45am

re: #476 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Reducing the number of Americans with insurance just makes wingnuts like JRubin (WashPost) giddy.

Indeed.

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KingKenrod  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:42:21am

re: #475 The Vicious Babushka

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I think Trump wants the GOP to pay him to go away.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:42:22am

Good day, lizards

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:42:30am

re: #475 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

My surprised face, etc….

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lawhawk  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:42:50am

re: #475 The Vicious Babushka

Thought I saw something similar out of Putin too.

Vladimir Putin has said he hopes nuclear warheads will not be needed to deal with terrorists, after Russia launched cruise missiles from its submarine at Syria.

During a meeting in the Kremlin, Russia’s Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu told the President that Kalibr cruise missiles had been fired by the submerged Rostov-on-Don submarine from the Mediterranean Sea for the first time.

He said TU-22 bombers also took part in the latest raids and that “significant damage” had been done to a munitions depot, a factory manufacturing mortar rounds and oil facilities. Two major targets in Raqqa, the defacto capital of Isis, had been hit, said Mr Shoigu.

President Putin said the new cruise missiles could also be equipped with nuclear warheads - but that he hoped they would never need them.

He said: “With regard to strikes from a submarine. We certainly need to analyse everything that is happening on the battlefield, how the weapons work. Both the [Kalibr] missiles and the Kh-101 rockets are generally showing very good results. We now see that these are new, modern and highly effective high-precision weapons that can be equipped either with conventional or special nuclear warheads.”

Guess we know where Trump’s getting talking points. Right wingers have been fan-boying Putin for months, so when Putin went there with nukes, Trump decided to follow.

483
HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:43:11am

PharmaBro bought that single copy of the WuTang Clan LP.because of course.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:45:26am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

PharmaBro bought that single copy of the WuTang Clan LP.because of course.

I can’t say that I have a shit to give about this. It’s not like people will die if they can’t listen to Wu Tang Clan.

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Kryptik  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:45:29am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

PharmaBro bought that single copy of the WuTang Clan LP.because of course.

“We need to raise the price of the pill by 5000% percent so I can afford more useless tchotchkes and rare shit I won’t use except to impress the women I pay to pretend-swoon over me.”

486
Teukka  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:46:29am

re: #482 lawhawk

Thought I saw something similar out of Putin too.

Guess we know where Trump’s getting talking points. Right wingers have been fan-boying Putin for months, so when Putin went there with nukes, Trump decided to follow.

I just get this feeling this is the only warning we’ll get, the next we hear will be a ‘shroom cloud :(

487
blueraven  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:46:37am

re: #457 Eventual Carrion

So that’s what, 9% of the US population?

It is a problem for the GOP.

488
HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:47:12am

re: #484 The Vicious Babushka

I can’t say that I have a shit to give about this. It’s not like people will die if they can’t listen to Wu Tang Clan.

Oh I agree, it’s peanuts compared to what he did. Man if you want proof that being good simply has nothing to do with material wealth, look at that asshole.

489
SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:47:47am

re: #472 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

And wasn’t there some sort of issue about some land in Canada that might actually belong to Maine? And we really should own both sides of the Niagara Falls. And I bet smugglers are using the St/ Lawrence Seaway, and they could smuggle Muslims as well as drugs, so we better get control of that.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:49:03am

littlegreenfootballs.com

figures

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HappyWarrior  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:49:18am

re: #485 Kryptik

“We need to raise the price of the pill by 5000% percent so I can afford more useless tchotchkes and rare shit I won’t use except to impress the women I pay to pretend-swoon over me.”

On behalf of my entire generation, I apologize for this guy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:50:20am

There’s so much crazy shit going on. Yesterday, the SCOTUS heard arguments about whether to abandon the principle that we’ve used to determine representation for state legislatures for nearly 150 years, based on the cockamamie belief that only voters need to be represented.

Didn’t we go to war back in 1775 over that issue? Wasn’t that the guiding principle of our declaring independence, that everyone should be represented because the actions of government apply to everyone?

Now this is being called into question in a cynical attempt to pack state legislatures in favor of rural white people. And this cynical crazy shit was argued in front of the SCOTUS.

Sometimes it’s hard to get up in the morning, the bullshit is so deep.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:51:08am

re: #475 The Vicious Babushka

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Maybe that’s why Netanyahu is leery of him. I wonder if Trump even knows where Syria is located in relation to Israel.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:51:48am

now, now - we must all thank mr trump for the excellent work he is doing in fatally dividing the republican party and exposing its fascist, racist heart

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Alephnaught  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:51:53am

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Graham Lineman is the co-creator of “Father Ted”, one of the loved sitcoms made over this of the pond in the past 30 years.

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Alephnaught  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:54:03am

BTW How do I make one of those hidden content “Click to Reveal” buttons?

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:56:41am

re: #492 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s so much crazy shit going on. Yesterday, the SCOTUS heard arguments about whether to abandon the principle that we’ve used to determine representation for state legislatures for nearly 150 years, based on the cockamamie belief that only voters need to be represented.

Didn’t we go to war back in 1775 over that issue? Wasn’t that the guiding principle of our declaring independence, that everyone should be represented because the actions of government apply to everyone?

Now this is being called into question in a cynical attempt to pack state legislatures in favor of rural white people. And this cynical crazy shit was argued in front of the SCOTUS.

Sometimes it’s hard to get up in the morning, the bullshit is so deep.

You know, since the Constitution used that whole 3/5ths of slaves for apportionment, I’d say there is pretty good precedent the founders weren’t in favor of just counting voters

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Belafon  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:56:41am

re: #496 Alephnaught

BTW How do I make one of those hidden content “Click to Reveal” buttons?

Hover over the green question mark at the bottom. It will tell you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:56:50am

re: #496 Alephnaught

BTW How do I make one of those hidden content “Click to Reveal” buttons?

Click on the green question mark located under the comment box below.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 9, 2015 • 10:57:47am

re: #496 Alephnaught

[ private ]Content here…[/ private ] or [ spoiler ]Content here…[/ spoiler ], but remove the spaces in the tags. If you hover your mouse over the green question mark below the comment form, you’ll find more directions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 9, 2015 • 11:08:31am

re: #492 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s so much crazy shit going on. Yesterday, the SCOTUS heard arguments about whether to abandon the principle that we’ve used to determine representation for state legislatures for nearly 150 years, based on the cockamamie belief that only voters need to be represented.

Didn’t we go to war back in 1775 over that issue? Wasn’t that the guiding principle of our declaring independence, that everyone should be represented because the actions of government apply to everyone?

Non-voters to count as 3/5 for census purposes?

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 9, 2015 • 11:08:47am

Apologies if this has already been posted:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 9, 2015 • 11:15:50am

re: #501 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Non-voters to count as 3/5 for census purposes?

Nah. That’s been done to 700,000 deaths.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 9, 2015 • 11:21:31am

Shit. I think I just joined a Tea Party campaign to unseat Martha Roby of Alabama. Got a call from a nice anti-Roby AA volunteer, and gave him my email contact info. Turns out this is the only challenger:

(CAUTION; ALABAMA TEA PARTY SITE)
yellowhammernews.com

I gotta get more sleep.


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