Federal Judge Denies David Daleiden’s Attempt to Lift TRO, Citing “Deceitful Lengths”

They’re having their day in court, and it isn’t going well
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The hits keep on comin’ for the dishonest anti-choice activists of the Center for Medical Progress and their indicted head David Daleiden (shown above). Today in San Francisco, federal judge William Orrick issued an injunction stopping the activists from releasing any more of their deceptively edited “sting” videos.

Judge Orrick also stated that he had reviewed the videos and found no evidence that the National Abortion Federation committed any crimes.

San Francisco federal judge William Orrick last year issued a temporary order prohibiting the distribution of the videos, which he extended on Friday until the litigation is over. Orrick said he reviewed the videos and found no evidence of criminal activity by NAF members.

Catherine Short, an attorney for the Center for Medical Progress, said they had expected the ruling. Derek Foran, an attorney for the National Abortion Federation, said they are pleased.

“NAF’s members can sleep a little easier tonight,” Foran said.

And that’s not the only legal setback dealt to the CMP lately. Last week Judge Orrick denied a request from Daleiden and the CMP to submit their videos to the Supreme Court in an amicus brief filing to support a case that aims to remove abortion access for many women in Texas.

“I have reviewed the portions of the recordings that defendants argue rebut or undercut the arguments made by NAF and Planned Parenthood in the Supreme Court case,” he wrote. “Defendants have mischaracterized the nature of the comments made by the presenters and the independent clinic owner; the comments are not directly relevant to the amicus brief statements defendants attribute to NAF and Planned Parenthood.”

NAF also took issue with Daleiden’s claim that the privacy interests at issue are “insubstantial.”

[…]

“It is not necessary here to repeat the reasons I issued the TRO in the first place—the deceitful lengths the defendants went to obtain these recordings and the legitimate safety concerns of NAF and its members, made all too real by the targeting of individuals on the publicly disclosed videos, the substantial increase in threats of violence to NAF members and more recently the tragedy in Colorado Springs,” Orrick wrote.

“The question is whether defendants’ desire to use the information in their amicus briefs should permit an exception to the TRO,” Orrick continued. “The answer is ‘No.’”

Judge Orrick doesn’t seem very sympathetic to Daleiden, and he shouldn’t be. This guy tried to game the entire country by deliberately lying and defrauding people, and he’s had way too much success. It’s way past time for him to be on the losing end of the legal system.

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372 comments

1
HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:19:47pm

Oh no San Francisco, no wonder why this Christian is being persecuted. //

2
freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:20:06pm

But the wingnuts are still saying Daleiden is a martyr.

3
b_sharp  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:22:33pm

re: #2 freetoken

But the wingnuts are still saying Daleiden is a martyr.

Spin.

4
freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:25:57pm

re: #3 b_sharp

Spin.

You mean martyrdom by spinning?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:26:44pm

WTF is going on? My freakin classmates are turning out to be a bunch of druggies and criminals. If they aren’t failing background checks they’re failing drug tests. I thought they were such nice kids.

6
Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:27:02pm

My sort of review of The Martain:

The Martian was a total geek movie in the best sense. It was a world where the problems that needed to be solved were pretty much just engineering problems. And the engineers solved them, though not always on the first try. It was a bunch of really smart people working on an excruciatingly hard problem.

I also liked the scene when an LOTR reference was made, the only one not in on the joke was the public relations person. Like I said, a total geek movie.

7
EPR-radar  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:27:24pm

RWNJ crap fares poorly in a proper legal system (rules of evidence etc.).

Instead of a reality-based response (like dropping the irrational crap) the RWNJ strategy is to get their own into the judiciary in such numbers as to make the law completely irrelevant.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:28:49pm

re: #4 freetoken

You mean martyrdom by spinning?

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Twirling for Freedom

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TedStriker  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:30:44pm
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:30:51pm

re: #7 EPR-radar

RWNJ crap fares poorly when it deals with a proper legal system (rule of evidence etc.).

Instead of a reality-based response (like dropping the irrational crap) the RWNJ strategy is to get their own into the judiciary in such numbers as to make the law completely irrelevant.

That’s what I was thinking. Thomas More lawyers, the Oregon fools—they really want the law to mean something very specific to their religious or radical beliefs. Instead of being educated when it turns out over and over that they’re wrong, they double down.

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b.d.  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:33:49pm

re: #2 freetoken

But the wingnuts are still saying Daleiden is a martyr.

This is 2016, one needs a tarp to be a martyr.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:34:19pm

re: #11 b.d.

This is 2016, one needs a tarp to be a martyr.

look for blue tarp lapel pins at the republican convention.

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EPR-radar  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:34:47pm

re: #10 Barefoot Grin

That’s what I was thinking. Thomas More lawyers, the Oregon fools—they really want the law to mean something very specific to their religious or radical beliefs. Instead of being educated when it turns out over and over that they’re wrong, they double down.

It’s really not an exaggeration to say that US movement conservatism is committed to undoing centuries of progress by returning to pre-Enlightenment views.

This business of wanting to turn the US judiciary into religious tribunals to validate their views is part of this overall pattern.

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withak  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:34:59pm

re: #6 Belafon

My sort of review of The Martain:

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My favorite movie of 2015.

The book is a great read, too.

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EPR-radar  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:36:13pm

re: #12 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

look for blue tarp lapel pins at the republican convention.

That provides a possible answer to an important philosophical question —- how to identify morons at the GOP convention.

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b.d.  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:37:39pm

re: #12 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

look for blue tarp lapel pins at the republican convention.

Give me those crates of the old Purple Heart Band Aids and a gross of blue Sharpies

17
Kragar  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:37:47pm

re: #15 EPR-radar

how to identify morons at the GOP convention.

Trick question.

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Tigger2  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:38:32pm

re: #15 EPR-radar

That provides a possible answer to an important philosophical question —- how to identify morons at the GOP convention.

They all are.///

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:38:46pm

re: #16 b.d.

Give me those crates of the old Purple Heart Band Aids and a gross of blue Sharpies

Agh I remember that. The guy behind that was a Virginian. From what I understand there’s never been even an attempt at an apology made to John Kerry for that. Shows you how much they respect the military.

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b.d.  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:40:28pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Agh I remember that. The guy behind that was a Virginian. From what I understand there’s never been even an attempt at an apology made to John Kerry for that. Shows you how much they respect the military.

Being a wingnut means never having to say you’re sorry.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:41:04pm

re: #13 EPR-radar

It’s really not an exaggeration to say that US movement conservatism is committed to undoing centuries of progress by returning to pre-Enlightenment views.

This business of wanting to turn the US judiciary into religious tribunals to validate their views is part of this overall pattern.

I agree. For awhile I’ve seen it as a few loose screws rattling around. But it appears that in some ways we’re seeing the fruits of an increasingly unified narrative that, against all objective evidence, is determined to redefine America’s history in William Bradford’s Puritan terms as a “shining city upon a hill” of dedicated white puritans where any counter narrative is either an aberration or a lie.

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Kragar  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:43:04pm

re: #20 b.d.

Being a wingnut means never having to say you’re sorry.

or being able to spell it successfully more than 3 out of 5 times

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:43:20pm

Watching an episode of Midsomer Murders, featuring Peter Capaldi as a suspect.

Spoiler Alert: The Time Doctor did it. Or did he?

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EPR-radar  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:43:45pm

re: #18 Tigger2

They all are.///

Of course. But the blue tarp brigade, if it materializes, will be champions of stupidity, even relative to other Republicans.

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EPR-radar  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:46:58pm

re: #21 Barefoot Grin

I agree. For awhile I’ve seen it as a few loose screws rattling around. But it appears that in some ways we’re seeing the fruits of an increasingly unified narrative that, against all objective evidence, is determined to redefine America’s history in William Bradford’s Puritan terms as a “shining city upon a hill” of dedicated white puritans where any counter narrative is either an aberration or a lie.

Any attempt to enact this will be an absolute disaster. The United States itself is predicated on the Enlightenment.

The ideals expressed in the Declaration of Independence can’t even be expressed in pre-Enlightenment language.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:50:17pm

re: #25 EPR-radar

Any attempt to enact this will be an absolute disaster. The United States itself is predicated on the Enlightenment.

The ideals expressed in the Declaration of Independence can’t even be expressed in pre-Enlightenment language.

Thomas Jefferson wrote it, and they are trying to erase him from history.

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Kragar  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:50:50pm

Lets do this:

The Blue Tarp of Courage
The Tarp of Turin
The Tarps of our Fathers

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:52:43pm

re: #25 EPR-radar

Any attempt to enact this will be an absolute disaster. The United States itself is predicated on the Enlightenment.

The ideals expressed in the Declaration of Independence can’t even be expressed in pre-Enlightment language.

Yep. All this bullshit about “the founding fathers would have….” as if they were some multi-bodied creature joined at the brain. And then, as you say, (as conflicted as they were), the framers of the DofI and Constitution ideas came from the very sources that are being scuttled from universities because they apparently don’t lead to good jobs or are somehow antithetical to American values. The mind reels.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:54:27pm

re: #27 Kragar

The World According To Tarp

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:55:07pm

Zero Tarp Thirty

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Tigger2  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:55:07pm

re: #27 Kragar

Lets do this:

The Blue Tarp of Courage
The Tarp of Turin
The Tarps of our Fathers

Tarp Wars.

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freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:55:16pm

re: #27 Kragar

12 Angry Tarps.

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calochortus  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:55:35pm

re: #28 Barefoot Grin

I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that our omniscient founding fathers were apparently debating what exactly the Constitution meant before the ink was completely dry. This “the founding fathers obviously meant xyz” is totally bogus.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:56:02pm

Tarps for Private Tussie (1943)

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:56:56pm

A Patch of Blue

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withak  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:57:03pm

The Parent Tarp

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makeitstop  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:59:45pm

The Tender Tarp

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ninja cat  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:00:31pm

The Thin Blue Tarp

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ausador  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:00:45pm

If you put all the “power user” and “promoted” shit in my timeline ahead of the people I actually follow that isn’t making it better you assholes!

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:01:06pm

Tarpa Tarpa Tarpa

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:01:12pm

‘night all

Melania Knauss-Trump — the not so early years
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:01:43pm

After reading the Newsweek article on the rise of right-wing extremists and the accompanying comments, I started to think about the matter of perceptions. All extremist terrorists are patriots and heroes to their partisans. So the Bundyians are forcing us to finally conclude that they are not, in fact, Americans. They are beyond the pale by so far that they seem foreign now.

Ok, maybe exaggerating for effect. But if they do not recognize US law, what are we to think?

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freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:01:57pm

The very intelligent folk over at Vox tell me:

Republican debate 2016: start time, schedule, and what to expect Updated by Andrew Prokop on February 5, 2016, 7:00 a.m. ET

The next primetime Republican presidential debate is Saturday at 8 pm Eastern. It will take place in Manchester, New Hampshire, and air on ABC.

This time around, seven candidates met Fox’s polling qualifications for the primetime event. They are Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, and John Kasich. And, though he skipped out on the most recent GOP debate, Trump has confirmed that he’ll attend this one.

Appropriately for a field that has shrunk from 17 candidates to nine, there will be no undercard debate this time around. That’s bad news for Carly Fiorina, who failed to meet ABC’s polling qualifications (as did former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore, who is indeed still running despite winning only 12 votes in the Iowa caucuses).

[…]

Methinks that Vox articles are just cut and paste from previous stuff.

But the very intelligent folk at Vox won’t let us common folk comment to make corrections.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:02:11pm

re: #39 ausador

Algorithmic is short for “we’re driving.”

45
withak  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:03:30pm

Admiral Snackbar sez “It’s a tarp!”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:05:02pm

It Happened One Tarp
The Tarpfather
The Tarpinator

47
Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:06:53pm

Saving Private Tarp

48
Stanley Sea  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:07:48pm

The Tarpover

49
HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:08:13pm

A Fistful of Tarps

Field of Tarps

Bury My Heart At Tarped Knee

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withak  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:08:30pm

Entarpment

51
ausador  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:09:33pm

A Tarp Too Far.
The Blue Tarp of Courage.
Tarp Over the River Kwai.

52
Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:09:42pm

The Blue Tarp Rises
The Once and Future Tarp
Children of a Lesser Tarp

53
jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:09:44pm

Code Tarpers
The Longest Tarp

54
freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:10:05pm

Once Upon A Tarp In The West

55
Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:10:18pm

World According to Tarp

I’m sure that’s been done. Sorry.

56
Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:10:48pm

Tarpageddon

57
No Depression  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:11:01pm

The Tarp Knight

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unproven innocence  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:11:05pm

I’m not from around these tarps.

59
Jenner7  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:11:22pm

Dances With Tarps

60
Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:11:30pm

Middle Age Mutant Ninja Tarps

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withak  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:11:38pm

Raiders of the Lost Tarp
Indiana Jones and the Tarp of Doom
Indiana Jones and the Tarp Crusade

The Fellowship of the Tarp
The Tarp Towers
The Return of the Tarp

62
Kragar  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:13:15pm

The Parent Tarp

63
Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:13:41pm

Tarpnado

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withak  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:13:46pm

Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Tarp
Harry Potter and the Tarp of Secrets
Harry Potter and the Tarp of Azkaban
Harry Potter and the Tarp of Fire
Harry Potter and the Tarp of the Phoenix
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Tarp
Harry Potter and the Tarply Hallows

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:13:56pm

The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Tarp 1

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Tigger2  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:14:14pm

LMAO

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:14:37pm

Pride and Prejudice and Tarps

(That one’s pretty fitting, actually)

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freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:15:14pm

Meanwhile, down under, both general and targeted cuts in science research hit hard:

Job cuts in Australia target climate scientists

Hundreds of climate researchers at Australia’s national science agency are set to lose their jobs after the organization announced that it would shift its strategy away from basic climate science.

The Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO) employs thousands of scientists across Australia, and has been a leader in climate modelling and ocean observation in the Southern Hemisphere for decades.

But in an e-mail sent to CSIRO staff members this week, chief executive Larry Marshall wrote that he expected the agency to shed up to 350 jobs over the next two years, of which the burden would fall on climate-science areas, including research divisions in the Oceans and Atmosphere and Land and Water units.

[…]

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:15:23pm

He tweets

But what he means is

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:16:11pm

re: #69 De Kolta Chair

He tweets

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But what he means is

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This might have some substance if Carson’s ideas weren’t batshit insane.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:16:45pm

Night of the Living Tarp
The Rocky Horror Picture Tarp
Tarpenstein
The Tarp Witch Project

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WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:17:42pm

This. Is. Hysterical.

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Kragar  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:17:45pm

Have Tarp Will Travel

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WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:18:09pm

re: #66 Tigger2

Beat me to it! :-)

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:18:35pm

re: #66 Tigger2

LMAO

[Embedded content]

Can we make “Are you snackless?” a thing?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:18:39pm

The Tarpin’ Samurai.

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Tigger2  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:18:48pm

re: #73 Kragar

Have Tarp Will Travel

Damn, I never missed that show when I was young.

Have “Gun” Will Travel

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:19:00pm

I wish I had the skills to make a ’50s-style poster of Fred McMurray with Ammon, Ryan, and Cliven, Jr. to title: “My Three Sons… and Eleven others”

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:19:20pm

re: #66 Tigger2

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Jay C  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:19:36pm

Star Tarps:
Episode IV : A New Tarp
Episode V : The Tarp Strikes Back
Episode VI: Return of the Tarp

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gocart mozart  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:19:44pm
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allegro  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:19:45pm

Just saw this hilarious Budweiser Superb Owl ad with Helen Mirren. Must watch:

Budweiser USA: 2016 Super Bowl Commercial | #GiveADamn :60

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:19:52pm

re: #75 Belafon

Can we make “Are you snackless?” a thing?

This revolution will be laughed at.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:20:10pm

Seven Tarps For Seven Brothers

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Tigger2  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:20:18pm

re: #74 WhatEVs

Beat me to it! :-)

It’s so funny it’s worth 2 posting. lol

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withak  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:21:08pm

Tarp: The Motion Picture
The Wrath of Tarp
The Search for Tarp
The Voyage Tarp
The Tarp Frontier
The Undiscovered Tarp

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sizzzzlerz  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:21:48pm

2001: A Tarp Odyssey
A Tarpwork Orange
Dr. Strangetarp

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:22:30pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

This might have some substance if Carson’s ideas weren’t batshit insane.

And here we are, dealing with a load of horse shit from politicians who’ve never even seen a horse.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:22:44pm

re: #69 De Kolta Chair

He tweets

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But what he means is

Embedded Image

He’s close to “Can’t tell if it’s Carson or a bot” territory.

While acknowledging that Ted Cruz is a loathsome toad, I admit that I did find his anti-Carson shenanigans darkly funny, because good comedy has a grain of truth in it. I mean, didn’t we all expect Carson to quit? “Hey guys, send out messages that says Carson quit. Don’t say he dropped out, just say ‘he’s not campaigning’… They’ll believe it.” And Carson has done nothing in response, either. It was a dick move, but a sly and effective one.

The same goes for saying Trump has “lost it”. It was a very well-timed piece of contempt that made Trump look like an even bigger whiner. The DT went from blustering force of nature to 2nd-rate goofus overnight.

Cruz is an evil fuck, but he’s almost entertainingly good at being nasty. It’s almost fun when the victims are also assholes. :P

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withak  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:23:28pm

re: #89 Pawn of the Oppressor

He’s close to “Can’t tell if it’s Carson or a bot” territory.

While acknowledging that Ted Cruz is a loathsome toad, I admit that I did find his anti-Carson shenanigans darkly funny, because good comedy has a grain of truth in it. I mean, didn’t we all expect Carson to quit? “Hey guys, send out messages that says Carson quit. Don’t say he dropped out, just say ‘he’s not campaigning’… They’ll believe it.” And Carson has done nothing in response, either. It was a dick move, but a sly and effective one.

The same goes for saying Trump has “lost it”. It was a very well-timed piece of contempt that made Trump look like an even bigger whiner. The DT went from blustering force of nature to 2nd-rate goofus overnight.

Cruz is an evil fuck, but he’s good at being nasty.

Cruz is the hero the GOP deserves.

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gocart mozart  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:25:09pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:25:36pm

re: #66 Tigger2

LMAO

[Embedded content]

Too many to quote. I remember one.

If you think camo works in winter snow, you might be snackless.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:28:35pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:28:50pm

re: #82 allegro

Just saw this hilarious Budweiser Superb Owl ad with Helen Mirren. Must watch:

[Embedded content]

Video

EXCELLENT.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:32:49pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:32:58pm

Ministry of Give Me A Break, ya mean. //

Later lizards.

Terrific movie btw
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darthstar  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:37:14pm
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CuriousLurker  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:37:24pm

I’ve recommended this essay before, both in comments in the main threads and in a Page I created back in 2014, and I’m going to do it again. I’m doing so for those who may have missed it previously and also because it’s very germane to the current political climate because the man knows of what he speaks—I know this because, as I’ve mentioned before, I have lived with a fanatic.

If you’re not familiar with the author, Amos Oz, you can read more about him at the page I mentioned above (he’s one of Israel’s most famous authors—I’ve read, and thoroughly enjoyed some of his other books and have even more waiting for me on my Kindle). I love his writing style and find his storytelling very entertaining. The essay I’m linking to is part of a short collection called How to Cure a Fanatic. His primary focus is on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but what he says applies to all fanaticism.

Do yourself a favor and read the whole thing:

Fanatics Attack
The best defense against extremism includes empathy, imagination, and a healthy sense of humor

I have called myself an expert on comparative fanaticism. This is no joke. If you ever hear of a school or university starting a department of comparative fanaticism, I am hereby applying for a teaching post. As a former Jerusalemite, as a recovered fanatic, I feel I’m fully qualified for that job. Perhaps it is time that every school, every university teach at least a couple of courses in comparative fanaticism, because it is everywhere. I don’t mean just the obvious manifestations of fundamentalism and zealotry. I don’t refer just to those obvious fanatics, the ones we see on television, in places where hysterical crowds wave their fists against the cameras while screaming slogans in languages we don’t understand. No, fanaticism is almost everywhere, and its quieter, more civilized forms are present all around us and perhaps inside of us as well.

Do I know the anti-smokers who will burn you alive for lighting a cigarette near them! Do I know the vegetarians who will eat you alive for eating meat! Do I know the pacifists, some of my colleagues in the Israeli peace movement, who are willing to shoot me in the head just because I advocate a slightly different strategy on how to make peace with the Palestinians!

I’m not saying, of course, that anyone who raises his or her voice against anything is a fanatic. I’m certainly not suggesting that anyone who has a strong opinion is a fanatic. I’m saying that the seed of fanaticism always lies in uncompromising self-righteousness, the plague of many centuries. […]

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unproven innocence  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:49:30pm

re: #98 CuriousLurker

In case you’ve overlooked it, I recommend The True Believer by Eric Hoffer

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:03:09pm

re: #98 CuriousLurker

I’ve recommended this essay before, both in comments in the main threads and in a Page I created back in 2014, and I’m going to do it again. I’m doing so for those who may have missed it previously and also because it’s very germane to the current political climate because the man knows of what he speaks—I know this because, as I’ve mentioned before, I have lived with a fanatic.

If you’re not familiar with the author, Amos Oz, you can read more about him at the page I mentioned above (he’s one of Israel’s most famous authors—I’ve read, and thoroughly enjoyed some of his other books and have even more waiting for me on my Kindle). I love his writing style and find his storytelling very entertaining. The essay I’m linking to is part of a short collection called How to Cure a Fanatic. His primary focus is on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but what he says applies to all fanaticism.

Do yourself a favor and read the whole thing:

Thanks so much for this. Great article.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:08:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:08:16pm

re: #27 Kragar

Lets do this:

The Blue Tarp of Courage
The Tarp of Turin
The Tarps of our Fathers

They played Tarps on the shofar at the cemetery…

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CuriousLurker  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:16:05pm

re: #98 CuriousLurker

P.S. FWIW, both Amos Oz and his daughter Fania are liberals. Oz and other liberal Israelis were recently viciously attacked by a far-right group named Im Tirtzu and accused of being foreign [cultural] “moles.” This deeply angered & offended many, including Oz’s grandson, and Im Titrtzu has since apologized.

Oh, and that recent film directed by Natalie Portman, A Tale of Love and Darkness? It’s based on Oz’s autobiographical novel of the same name (Portman plays his daughter Fania in the movie). He was also among the soldiers recorded in 1967 following the Six-Day War who appears in the recent award-winning (and somewhat controversial) documentary film, Censored Voices.

Video

And with that, I’m outta here. Later, lizards.

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allegro  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:18:08pm

So my friend and I did our regular Friday out to dinner at Genghis Grill this evening and sat between a table of lovely young Muslim women on one side and a Muslim family on the other. I even added some deliciously seasoned halal beef to my bowl.

I’m pleased to announce that we left unscathed, if a bit overfilled, leftovers in hand and arrived home with no jihad descending upon our persons.

The End

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CuriousLurker  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:20:18pm

re: #99 unproven innocence

In case you’ve overlooked it, I recommend The True Believer by Eric Hoffer

Thanks, I’ll add that to my list.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:21:12pm

Tarps on a Plain.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:23:36pm

re: #103 CuriousLurker

P.S. FWIW, both Amos Oz and his daughter Fania are liberals. Oz and other liberal Israelis were recently viciously attacked by a far-right group named Im Tirtzu and accused of being foreign [cultural] “moles.” This deeply angered & offended many, including Oz’s grandson, and Im Titrtzu has since apologized.

Oh, and that recent film directed by Natalie Portman, A Tale of Love and Darkness? It’s based on Oz’s autobiographical novel of the same name (Portman plays his daughter Fania in the movie). He was also among the soldiers recorded in 1967 following the Six-Day War who appears in the recent award-winning (and somewhat controversial) documentary film, Censored Voices.

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And with that, I’m outta here. Later, lizards.

Yes, I’ve been hearing about the radicalization of Israel. I guess it’s understandable in some ways, but it is frightening to think that what we had considered our analogue in Israel— a vibrant democracy— is becoming our new potential future: an extremist Judeo-Christianist state.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:24:47pm

re: #106 Decatur Deb

Tarps on a Plain.

Little Tarp on the Prairie

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:24:48pm

re: #6 Belafon

I really enjoyed it, and damn if it didn’t get me very tense at times. At least once the bottom dropped out of my stomach and I thought, “God, he is so fucked.”

Great flick.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:25:00pm

re: #103 CuriousLurker

P.S. FWIW, both Amos Oz and his daughter Fania are liberals.

Did I mention they’re also atheists? Yeah, I think I forgot that part—not that it really matters (at least not to me).

CL <— Really moving away from the ‘puter now.

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Jay C  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:25:34pm

Saving Private Ryan’s Tarp
Twelve Years Under A Tarp
Zero Tarp Thirty
Gravitarp

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unproven innocence  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:25:52pm

re: #105 CuriousLurker

Thanks, I’ll add that to my list.

It was one of several books that I devoured in my teen years, trying to understand Islam, among other things. My introduction to that subject was, I should say, rather incredibly untypical.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:26:05pm

re: #107 Barefoot Grin

Yes, I’ve been hearing about the radicalization of Israel. I guess it’s understandable in some ways, but it is frightening to think that what we had considered our analogue in Israel— a vibrant democracy— is becoming our new potential future: an extremist Judeo-Christianist state.

Yeah, things are getting more polarized everywhere it seems. :-(

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No Country For Old Haters  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:28:31pm

re: #103 CuriousLurker

including Oz’s grandson

The comments supporting the right wing extremists look a lot like the insanity that comes from our wingnuts.

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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:29:04pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:37:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:42:55pm

re: #115 teleskiguy

Winter driving action.

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If I was driving behind him, I would be justified in shooting out his tires…
and then shooting them some more…

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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:44:47pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

If I was driving behind him, I would be justified in shooting out his tires…
and then shooting them some more…

INORITE? Fuckin’ asshole.

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danarchy  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:44:48pm

re: #109 Romantic Heretic

I really enjoyed it, and damn if it didn’t get me very tense at times. At least once the bottom dropped out of my stomach and I thought, “God, he is so fucked.”

Great flick.

It was a fantastic movie, my one gripe is that they paid so much attention to making sure things were scientifically possible, yet the whole premise for the disaster was so impossible. The atmosphere on mars is far to thin for a storm to have knocked over or threatened to knock over their escape vehicle.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:50:21pm

I guess there are more reasons to buy Girl Scout Cookies, other than being so damn addictive…

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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:50:28pm

The Umphreys are good to their fans.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:56:11pm
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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:56:27pm

re: #119 danarchy

There’s always going to be a “give them one thing” in a movie, no matter how realistic, especially, in this case, to set up the conditions necessary for the rest of the movie. I’m trying to think of a good setup in a different way, and I’m not entirely sure how to do it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:06:36pm

re: #116 goddamnedfrank

Seriously, guys, banks have been using neural nets for decades to detect credit card fraud, graph sciences are old hat nowadays, and the costs are going down.

Twitter’s business model has always been questionable, but this is another example of the non-service model eventually catching up and biting the company in the arse.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:09:26pm
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Jenner7  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:16:06pm

Sharing one of my favorites of Tori Amos…

Video

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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:21:57pm

Harry says it best in a tweet.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:24:10pm

re: #126 Jenner7

I bought Little Earthquakes back in 93, and while I own more of her albums than any other artist, I won’t claim to own all of them. I’m very partial to “Gold Dust.”

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Jenner7  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:27:49pm

re: #128 Belafon

She has so many good songs. I saw her only once, and I was three months pregnant and could barely keep my eyes open. lol I’m feeling nostalgic tonight. :)

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:28:00pm

re: #59 Jenner7

Dances With Tarps

The Candy Coated Streamlined Baby Tarp

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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:32:09pm

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:36:58pm

Florida…man…

“…”The 25-cent price per booklet was the lowest price we could find, and is even less than it would cost for us to photocopy these historical documents for distribution during Justice Teaching sessions,” Lewis wrote.

It is still unclear how many copies of each version of the Constitution booklet have been distributed at schools from the 80,000 purchased….”

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Kragar  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:37:25pm
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TedStriker  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:39:02pm

re: #133 Kragar

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In regard to all of those tweets, except about Biden, I say this:

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TedStriker  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:40:08pm

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:41:28pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:43:34pm

re: #136 goddamnedfrank

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:46:43pm

Turns out Twitter did test this out with some small group of folks and decided to go ahead with it. I’d sure like to who those folks were….

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Kragar  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:51:58pm
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Swift2991  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:52:57pm

re: #22 Kragar

or being able to spell it successfully more than 3 out of 5 times

Being a wingnut means never knowing you should be sorry.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:56:20pm

re: #132 FormerDirtDart

Florida…man…

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Saw this in the article:

Another book advertised in the pocket Constitution is The 5,000 Year Leap, which teaches that “without religion the government of a free people cannot be maintained.”

Sounds exactly like the Rod Dreher discussion that was going on earlier in the previous thread.

The cool think about the link was, while I was reading, there was a Hallmark ad with a lesbian couple. The only reason this country is going to be destroyed is because of people like Dreher and the people putting out those pamphlets.

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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:57:13pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:27:40pm
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majii  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:39:51pm

re: #143 teleskiguy

Jeb should be ashamed of having his 90 year old mom propping him up on the campaign trail. It says to me that he can’t stand on his own. To top this off, he’s having “W” campaign for him in SC, which I think is good because it will remind all sane Americans just how badly big brother f*cked this country, and us, up.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:44:41pm
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Alyosha  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:48:24pm

re: #143 teleskiguy

‘Still less embarrassing than Jeb…’
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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:51:05pm

re: #146 100th Monkey

My electric card shuffler. Don’t go near that —
[Bart plays with it, and cards fly]
Now, I _told_ you…oh, those cards are from Air Force One, and
they only give you so many packs!

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Jenner7  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:56:12pm

re: #146 100th Monkey

That was a good episode…

I still laugh my ass off watching The Simpsons. My favorite episode is the Halloween one where the Aliens claim Maggie is one of them. Homer answers the door and says, “Oh great, Mormons.” lol

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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:56:28pm
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Alyosha  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:09:32pm

Cuuuuute!

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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:10:11pm
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Alyosha  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:16:40pm

re: #148 Jenner7

That was a good episode…

I still laugh my ass off watching The Simpsons. My favorite episode is the Halloween one where the Aliens claim Maggie is one of them. Homer answers the door and says, “Oh great, Mormons.” lol

Maggie losing her baby legs cracked me up.

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Single-handed sailor  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:34:32pm

Ooooh, Crackle has Dr. Strangelove.

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Nyet  Feb 6, 2016 • 12:43:18am

re: #107 Barefoot Grin

Yes, I’ve been hearing about the radicalization of Israel. I guess it’s understandable in some ways, but it is frightening to think that what we had considered our analogue in Israel— a vibrant democracy— is becoming our new potential future: an extremist Judeo-Christianist state.

Not sure about the “Judeo-Christianist” label. It will be very uncomfortable living as a Christian in a Jewish-theocratic Israel (should it ever happen - God forbid), just as it will be very uncomfortable living as a Jew in a Christian-theocratic America. IOW, all the hyphens will likely be forgotten.

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William Lewis  Feb 6, 2016 • 1:00:48am

re: #154 Nyet

Theocracy is only ever good for theocrats. The secular and religious people all suffer.

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Nojay UK  Feb 6, 2016 • 2:48:50am

re: #144 majii

Jeb should be ashamed of having his 90 year old mom propping him up on the campaign trail.

It’s more like Babs has no other qualified offspring who can get her into the White House again and so she’s had to front up Jeb to get her there. George Prescott Bush, John Ellis’ son, is at least eight years out from making his own run for the Presidency and even a Babs worth of spite and bile won’t necessarily keep her alive long enough to get the job done. I wouldn’t put it past her though.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 3:28:37am
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Timothy Watson  Feb 6, 2016 • 3:37:24am

re: #141 Belafon

Saw this in the article:

Sounds exactly like the Rod Dreher discussion that was going on earlier in the previous thread.

The cool think about the link was, while I was reading, there was a Hallmark ad with a lesbian couple. The only reason this country is going to be destroyed is because of people like Dreher and the people putting out those pamphlets.

The 5,000 Year Leap Forward is a book that Glenn Beck managed to make a bestseller despite it being published decades ago. The author is a complete wack job:
rationalwiki.org

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 3:48:48am

Skousen has been picked apart quite a bit here, especially back when the Tea Party flareup happened.

In America, any religious nutcase can have their second, then third, round of fame.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 4:10:50am

Words are magickal, even to the New York Times:

The Way Ted Cruz Won in Iowa Suggests Trouble Ahead

South Carolina will be a crucial test for Mr. Cruz. As with Alabama, the exit polls suggest that the state is far more “moderate” than Iowa, despite an even larger number of evangelical voters. If he is going to compete nationally with a coalition of evangelicals and “very conservative” voters, it will involve a win in South Carolina.

How is this determined?

It’s from self-identification found in polling data.

The word “conservative” in South Carolina probably carries tinges of the Civil War with it that are just absent in Iowa.

That is, to an Iowan who self describes as “conservative”, that word means something different, in shades at least, than it does to a South Carolinian.

Regional differences in language, and in particular in connotations of emotionally ladened words, is too often overlooked.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 4:28:05am

So, remember when Trump was in Iowa and kept reminding people of jobs moving to Mexico?

Well, he was in part accurate - that has happened - though of course Trump is never really willing to fully explore what that really means.

Anyway, such things are still happening… but:

250 Iowa jobs will be cut, moved to Mexico or NC

Company officials say 250 hourly and salaried positions will be eliminated at the Eaton Vehicle Group plant in the southwestern Iowa city of Shenandoah.

Officials said Thursday the company is moving some of the work to plants in Mexico or Kings Mountain, North Carolina.

[…]

Companies change their workforce all the time. In this case, it looks like North Carolina, which is part of the US should anyone be in doubt, may benefit. The local community of Shenandoah, Iowa will lose.

The reason for the move apparently is that manual transmissions are not the in thing:

Plant cuts 250 jobs as market for manual transmissions falls

[…]

There are two main reasons behind the reduction at the Shenandoah facility, Michels said. The first, he explained, is that there has been a shift in the market place to automated transmissions. However, manual transmissions are manufactured in Shenandoah.

“The shift in the market has occurred at a much more rapid rate than anyone anticipated,” Michels said.

Secondly, there is a significant reduction being forecast in 2016 in the Class 8 commercial vehicle market - dropping by roughly 23 percent. With such a decline, Michels said the organization “cannot operate with current capacity at our facilities given the changes in the market place.”

[…]

In the end, this is about change, and changing markets.

Everytime I hear Trump lament Nabisco having a Mexican plant, I wonder if Trump’s crowds think that somehow Mexicans don’t eat Oreo’s (or any other Nabisco product.)

In the modern world each of us competes with others around the world. This is what he 21st century has brought us, via innovations is global just-in-time manufacturing and the fact that those of us who produce non-physical products can be located just about anywhere.

The 21st century is scary, and the GOP candidates are expert at playing on these fears (not that the Democrats are immune from doing some of this too.)

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Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2016 • 5:20:59am

I stayed away from Twitter because the idea of saying anything meaningful in less than 140 characters is inherently ridiculou

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Le Lapin Tueur  Feb 6, 2016 • 5:32:12am

re: #83 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This revolution will be laughed at.

Are we really sure that wasn’t high-end performance art?

Really sure?

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 5:33:40am

Recently published paper in Cell has gotten some attention in the general media. But, as usual, the complexities and subtleties of the research get lost easily in the click-bait world of web news.

Here’s the paper:

Pleistocene Mitochondrial Genomes Suggest a Single Major Dispersal of Non-Africans and a Late Glacial Population Turnover in Europe

They are arguing that mtDNA evidence shows a possible major population shift in Europe 14.5k years ago, possibly due to climate change. The authors are, however, clear that they can’t argue for a complete population replacement, but at the minimum there was a significant shift.

Their other conclusion is about the time to the most recent common ancestor, for the mitochondria of humans outside of Africa. Said outside of Africa mitochondria fit into two basal clades that originated 49k and 51k years ago. This suggests that all outside-of-Africa populations share a common ancestral group after around 55k years ago.

This will not be heard from Ted Cruz’ father’s pulpit this weekend.

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darthstar  Feb 6, 2016 • 5:54:39am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 6, 2016 • 6:03:52am

re: #162 Decatur Deb

I stayed away from Twitter because the idea of saying anything meaningful in less than 140 characters is inherently ridiculou

I come here for meaningful discussion. I use Twitter to troll republican politicians. :)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 6, 2016 • 6:11:41am

re: #131 teleskiguy

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mmmirele  Feb 6, 2016 • 6:22:29am

re: #164 freetoken

I looked at that paper yesterday and I realized that I am woefully undereducated (despite two university degrees) to understand everything that was being said. I got the general gist of it, but the details, naw.

I wish I could upvote more than once for “This will not be heard from Ted Cruz’ father’s pulpit this weekend.”

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lawhawk  Feb 6, 2016 • 6:23:52am

re: #27 Kragar

Lets do this:

The Blue Tarp of Courage
The Tarp of Turin
The Tarps of our Fathers

The Tarps of Iwo Jima
The Longest Tarp
The Tarp of the King
The Return of the Tarp
Star Wars: A New Tarp
The Tarp Redemption

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Joe Bacon  Feb 6, 2016 • 6:30:34am
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lawhawk  Feb 6, 2016 • 6:33:03am

re: #125 FormerDirtDart

Christie has spent more time in New Hampshire than he has in New Jersey over the past year. And what has he gotten for all that time?

5% of the polling on average. Sure, he might have spiked at maybe 10% for a single poll, but for the most part, he’s been dancing at just above the MOE.

Millions of dollars and for what?

He can commiserate with Jeb. And Walker, Perry, and Jindal who all flamed out spectacularly.

Christie will be done after NH.

Meanwhile, Fiorina thinks she deserves to be at the debate, let alone running for the WH. That’s nuts too - considering that she is barely at the MOE nationally, and hardly registers in NH. She doesn’t deserve to be running in any event - no record on which to speak of, and her character and judgment is epitomized by the complete and utter inability to stick to facts (she still continues to push the BS CMP videos).

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Joe Bacon  Feb 6, 2016 • 6:33:57am

What truly pisses me off is that I know if Daleiden is convicted in Texas, Abbot will immediately pardon him.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 6, 2016 • 6:40:15am

re: #171 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Fiorina thinks she deserves to be at the debate, let alone running for the WH. That’s nuts too - considering that she is barely at the MOE nationally, and hardly registers in NH. She doesn’t deserve to be running in any event - no record on which to speak of, and her character and judgment is epitomized by the complete and utter inability to stick to facts (she still continues to push the BS CMP videos).

Every word out of that CENSORED’S mouth is a lie including the “and’s” and “but’s”. Even when she farts and belches, she lies.

I’m merely expressing how I and others who got screwed by that witch at HP and Lucent think of her. And I’m especially thinking about my cousin who worked his whole life at Bell Labs, later Lucent who got fucked out of his pension by her shenanigans.

My cousin died last week. That only reopened the wounds I have caused by that scheming CENSORED. May that witch burn in hell for what she did to my cousin, a decorated combat Marine.

FUCK YOU, CARLY!

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lawhawk  Feb 6, 2016 • 6:43:09am

re: #173 Joe Bacon

Bell Labs is one of the most important companies to have existed in the 20th century. Many technological advancements were carried out in its labs.

Carly decided to monetize it to make herself look good on paper.

It destroyed the company. And most of the shenanigans weren’t fully uncovered until she had already moved on to the next company where she repeated her damage - HP.

Yeah, she’s worse than awful.

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 6, 2016 • 6:50:44am

The more time CHRISTIE spends anywhere, the more people dislike him. He can’t figure out why.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 6:53:49am

re: #168 mmmirele

Evolution is still ranted against in many corners of this country.

In the past week one can find many articles in American news outlets, by writers lamenting evolution, how evolution is antithetical to Christianity, etc.

The GOP debates have carefully avoided questions that would touch on this. At best the candidates lament “Washington” controlled education, a whistle call for creationists, I gather.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:00:38am

Tonight’s debate is on ABC… supposedly you can view it here:

abcnews.go.com

Currently up: Ben Carson rally.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:01:48am

Now up… Candy Carson…

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:03:14am

re: #177 freetoken

Tonight’s debate is on ABC… supposedly you can view it here:

abcnews.go.com

Currently up: Ben Carson rally.

Slow Carson

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:04:50am

Candy talking about the lies that Cruz campaign was putting out… without naming Cruz… blaming “media” instead…

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:05:33am

“We’re a Judeo-Christian based society”…. our government structure comes from book of Isaiah….

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:08:07am

re: #180 freetoken

Candy talking about the lies that Cruz campaign was putting out… without naming Cruz… blaming “media” instead…

The Republicans are really tearing each other up this election.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:09:10am

So I’m watching this highly educated, intelligent woman, who as near as I can tell has serious, religion-vectored, cognitive dissonance.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:09:42am

re: #180 freetoken

Candy talking about the lies that Cruz campaign was putting out… without naming Cruz… blaming “media” instead…

It’s always the media’s fault.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:09:58am

re: #182 Tigger2

The Republicans are really tearing each other up this election.

But what’s happening here is Candy is blaming the media, not Cruz, for the lies.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:10:40am

Now it’s sing-a-long for “God Bless America”.

Candy is a trained singer… got that. But WHY? Dear gawd, WHY?

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:10:56am

re: #185 freetoken

But what’s happening here is Candy is blaming the media, not Cruz, for the lies.

I’m talking about in general all of them.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:11:24am

This makes Trump’s rallies look good…

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:12:02am

Ben is arriving…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:12:47am

If our government is based off Christian scripture than perhaps Mrs. Carson can explain why modern representative government only took off in the Age of Reason. And indeed absolute monarchies were tied to religion. Whole thing reeks of combining religion with government when history and reality says otherwise.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:12:50am

Carson going on about what happened in Iowa…

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:13:54am

… but refuses to name Cruz, blaming instead society not having an “ethical basis”…

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:14:49am

ABC also live broadcasting some PEGIDA rally in Germany:

en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:15:39am

re: #192 freetoken

… but refuses to name Cruz, blaming instead society not having an “ethical basis”…

Sheesh.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:15:59am

Carson now talking about ISIS in Libya… trying to sound like he knows something about the world… claims Libya has “lots more oil than Iraq” … which I seriously doubt.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:16:08am

At this rate, Carson will end up endorsing Cruz. Geez.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:16:44am

“We are an exceptional nation…”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:16:46am

re: #196 GlutenFreeJesus

At this rate, Carson will end up endorsing Cruz. Geez.

It makes sense. They’re both theocrats.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:16:55am

China is worried that it is coddling their male youth, and they want to enlist more male teachers.

A major obstacle to luring more men into teaching are the modest wages paid to educators in China (as elsewhere in the world).

We are not so different here as well. If they wanted more masculine boys, just start a war.//

Now That We’re Men - SpongeBob SquarePants & Patrick Star

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:18:03am

” … the thing causing division… is political correctness…”

Yes, he’s saying that.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:18:34am

“Joseph Stalin set the map out for the destruction of America…”

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:19:01am

Now claiming “secular progressives” are “not good people”…

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:19:18am

“Fabian society”… “liberals”… “progressives”…

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Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:23:10am

re: #174 lawhawk

Bell Labs is one of the most important companies to have existed in the 20th century. Many technological advancements were carried out in its labs.

Carly decided to monetize it to make herself look good on paper.

It destroyed the company. And most of the shenanigans weren’t fully uncovered until she had already moved on to the next company where she repeated her damage - HP.

Yeah, she’s worse than awful.

They validated the Cosmic Background Radiation—as a byproduct of their work.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:23:24am

Coming up - Christie rally.

Oh joy.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:24:14am

God he really is an asshole. Yes, Ben secular progressives are ruining America and are teh divisive ones but you who liken us to Stalin are just fine. Go fuck yourself asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:25:15am

Be well to point this out but this was good enough for 4th place in Iowa.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:25:26am

re: #154 Nyet

Not sure about the “Judeo-Christianist” label. It will be very uncomfortable living as a Christian in a Jewish-theocratic Israel (should it ever happen - God forbid), just as it will be very uncomfortable living as a Jew in a Christian-theocratic America. IOW, all the hyphens will likely be forgotten.

Correction noted and agree. No hyphens here nor there.

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:25:27am

Hell it’s the Republican Policies that are giving everything to the few at the top.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:26:20am

re: #209 Tigger2

Hell it’s the Republican Policies that are giving everything to the few at the top.

That’s their entire point.

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:27:00am

re: #210 HappyWarrior

That’s their entire point.

He’s trying to blame it on us Dems saying it’s our policies doing it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:29:26am

re: #211 Tigger2

He’s trying to blame it on us Dems saying it’s our policies doing it.

Then maybe the good doctor can explain why income disparties rose in the Reagan years. He really is so full of fucking shit. He knows nothing about political realites and only what right wing audience want to hear.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:29:48am

“Do not let anybody… convince you that I am going anywhere…”

Still refusing to name Cruz.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:30:49am

Carson done.

Switching to the Christie rally.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:31:11am

re: #213 freetoken

“Do not let anybody… convince you that I am going anywhere…”

Still refusing to name Cruz.

Courageous guy. Can blame liberals for Stalin but can’t bother to call out Ted Cruz.

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:31:54am
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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:33:19am

Switched to the PEGIDA rally… don’t understand the German… but lots of flags waving… including many Norway, the mythical social paradise of some popular leftist writers…

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:34:03am

Whatever PEGIDA is ranting about, I bet it’s not too different than Trump.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:36:29am

So, whose flag is the one with the black bar on top of a white bar, with a big red Germanic cross in the middle??

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:40:51am

Christie rally has some bad music…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:46:39am

My observations of Republican voters is that they love to be told that all society’s problems are because of the hated liberals and they (conservatives) are everything that’s right with America and the left isn’t even American. As I said, they have a lot of nerve to call us divisive when they pull shit like that.

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KerFuFFler  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:56:40am

re: #163 Le Lapin Tueur

re: #83 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
This revolution will be laughed at.

Are we really sure that wasn’t high-end performance art?
Really sure?

Isn’t it obvious that the refuge takeover was a false flag operation by the federal government to make militias look bad? Just wait till they come for your guns.!!!!! //

I just know that someone has already made this argument in all seriousness. sigh

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 7:57:59am

Christie spokesman at the Christie rally just used the phrase “how to make America great again”.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:00:54am

Why do all these rallies use the same music as each other, over and over?

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stpaulbear  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:03:00am

re: #224 freetoken

Why do all these rallies use the same music as each other, over and over?

Because of a crippling lack of imagination?

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:03:40am

re: #224 freetoken

For deception. It is to confuse the voters.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:04:44am

Screaming WaPo headline sez:

Why can’t Hillary Clinton find a good answer on Goldman Sachs? Maybe there isn’t one.

[…]

It all begs the question: Given Clinton’s long, varied experiences in public life, why do these sorts of questions continue to present such a problem?

Clinton is a trained lawyer who may be a bit too primed to argue and a bit behind on her conciliation and mediation skills. She is also a long-time public figure, a former senator, one-time Cabinet official and wife of a former president to whom she served as an adviser through many controversies and scandals.

She often responds to questions as if she lives in a fear that another issue could present itself at any time.

[…]

Gee, I wonder why.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:05:21am

re: #226 PhillyPretzel

For deception. It is to confuse the voters.

So, you’re saying it’s mimicry, in some big convergent-evolution type of way?

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:06:27am

re: #227 freetoken

Screaming WaPo headline sez:

Why can’t Hillary Clinton find a good answer on Goldman Sachs? Maybe there isn’t one.

Gee, I wonder why.

She can’t even go to the restroom without it being a scandal.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:07:03am

I’m just waiting for WaPo to come up for a justification for why they need to start running stories on Vince Foster again.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:08:12am

Just read that five Czech skiers have been killed in an avalanche in the Austrian Alps. I hope it wasn’t anyone I know…..a couple of my students like to skiing there on the weekends.

bbc.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:09:14am

re: #229 Belafon

She can’t even go to the restroom without it being a scandal.

or go to Chipolte instead of Taco Bell.

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WhatEVs  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:09:46am

Snackless #2. So funny (and true)!

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:09:49am

Switched from the Christie rally to the “Big Cat Rescue Cam” which shows some poor tiger pacing continually in his cage…

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:10:06am

re: #228 freetoken

Probably.

I am not feeling too good today. Yesterday I took a day off from work to do a few things. It never happened. I could not get any sleep and stayed home and watched America’s Test Kitchen videos. While I was at home I had five calls from telemarketers and one from my boss asking me if I wanted to work overtime on Presidents Day. I did get some sleep last night but I am still feeling lousy.

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:10:12am
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KerFuFFler  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:11:50am

re: #229 Belafon

She can’t even go to the restroom without it being a scandal.

May the gods of updings reward your meritorious comment!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:13:51am

re: #236 Tigger2

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Again there’s not much difference between Rubio and Trump/Cruz only that he’s perhaps an even bigger weasel. He’s such a goddamn fraud.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:15:39am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Again there’s not much difference between Rubio and Trump/Cruz only that he’s perhaps an even bigger weasel. He’s such a goddamn fraud.

A well hydrated goddamn fraud.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:16:03am

re: #239 Eventual Carrion

A well hydrated goddamn fraud.

Heh even frauds need water right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:18:06am
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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:19:13am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Again there’s not much difference between Rubio and Trump/Cruz only that he’s perhaps an even bigger weasel. He’s such a goddamn fraud.

The only difference I saw was they just worded it differently.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:20:17am

Christie rally video stream is down…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:20:28am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Indeed when they talk about abortion, they always ignore that is legal and its legality has stood up for nearly a half century. They don’t have any constitutional arguments against abortion.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:20:43am

re: #242 Tigger2

The only difference I saw was they just worded it differently.

I think Rubio did more weaseling IMO.

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stpaulbear  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:21:29am

re: #229 Belafon

She can’t even go to the restroom without it being a scandal.

I made a joke about that at my family’s Christmas get-together and it caused a major email blow-up from my arch-conservative sister. She was incredibly insulted that I would lump Hillary into the same group as her - the ‘group’ being ‘women’. She accused me of hating all straight women because I would include Hillary in the same group as them.

No, it never really made sense, but it sure let me know what a Foxbot she’s become. She believes that Hillary should be in jail for reasons ‘she can’t even mention’.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:22:13am

re: #243 freetoken

Christie rally video stream is down…

Someone shut the bridge down.

(networking humor)

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:22:38am

Some of Trumps accomplishments.

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Alyosha  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:23:08am

Just watched a doco on the Heaven’s Gate cult and I have to wonder if the novelty of the internet in the form it took (rancid, eye-poaching webdesign and all) was what made otherwise insane propositions seem totally conceivable.
I know the web allows horrid fuck-knuckles of all stripes to congregate and compare feces-stained notes, but even with the reach of CTs that hitherto might have whithered on the vine given a Guttenberg-type circulation, is the current crop of madness so addicted to the news cycle (like the rest of us) that it is unable to settle upon a coherent narrative that might justify mass-suicide by cop/national guardsman?
Maybe we can take some sort of comfort from the fact that even with a black POTUS, the various militias are being compromised by the sheer volume of weird-ass bullshit being thrown about on the most mainstream channels. It’s CTADD.
I know the Bundys are going for centralized leadership (hence the Finicum funeral looking more like a gangland event than anything) but these weirdos pride themselves on their ‘rugged individualism’. As Shiplord Kirel notes, even decentralised, these groups pose a serious threat.
But they are pretty disparate. They like using easily-monitored social media. And they’re pretty fucking thick.

In short, while the Net has increased the maximum decibels any given III%er might be able to use, maybe the upshot is that echo-chambers rely on a a single voice in order to be comprehended.
Now we only need to work on ‘the liberal media’. Go team!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:24:29am

re: #246 stpaulbear

I made a joke about that at my family’s Christmas get-together and it caused a major email blow-up from my arch-conservative sister. She was incredibly insulted that I would lump Hillary into the same group as her - the ‘group’ being ‘women’. She accused me of hating all straight women because I would include Hillary in the same group as them.

No, it never really made sense, but it sure let me know what a Foxbot she’s become. She believes that Hillary should be in jail for reasons ‘she can’t even mention’.

Sheesh. That’s sad though. I get the impression she wasn’t always that way though. Sad that some people grow really wingnutty with age. My mom’s cousin is a Trump supporter despite Donald’s love of Putin(Putin banned Americans from adopting kids from Russia) and our cousin adopted kids from Russia. And even weirder is that his one daughter loves Cruz who is a huge xenophobe. I love them as they’re family but it’s sad to see that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:26:15am

re: #248 Tigger2

Some of Trumps accomplishments.

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Trump really is a terrible businessman. He reminds me of a Simpsons episode where Homer finds a bunch of Simpsons relatives to prove that the family aren’t total failures and one of the relatives runs an unsuccessful shrimp company and Homer tries to reassure, “Well you run it right?” That’s what I think of people who look at Donald as a successful businessman. He really isn’t. If he hadn’t his father’s name and influence, he wouldn’t be this wealthy.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:26:47am

Christie arrives…

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:27:49am

Christie into man being a bit overbearing…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:28:17am

The irony of irony though when conservatives complain about judicial activism is they want judicial activism to be used to make abortion into a crime.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:29:09am

Re: Christie, in a normal primary, he’d take the cake as being the biggest asshole in the race but in this clown car, it’s a challenge since there are so many assholes.

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Alyosha  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:29:28am

re: #250 HappyWarrior

Sheesh. That’s sad though. I get the impression she wasn’t always that way though. Sad that some people grow really wingnutty with age. My mom’s cousin is a Trump supporter despite Donald’s love of Putin(Putin banned Americans from adopting kids from Russia) and our cousin adopted kids from Russia. And even weirder is that his one daughter loves Cruz who is a huge xenophobe. I love them as they’re family but it’s sad to see that.

I like it when people my parents’ age hear my opinion, they’ll sometimes say, ‘when you have kids, you’ll think this way.’

Correlation/causation confusion.
Plus shitty reasoning powers.
Plus fear.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:29:36am

Christie seems like the type of personality that Orson Welles would have put in a movie…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:30:46am

re: #256 100th Monkey

I like it when people my parents’ age hear my opinion, they’ll sometimes say, ‘when you have kids, you’ll think this way.’

Correlation/causation confusion.
Plus shitty reasoning powers.
Plus fear.

Man I hate shit like that or “When you get a job.” My own parents and grandparents are and were pretty firmly liberal thankfully.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:31:14am

re: #257 freetoken

Christie seems like the type of personality that Orson Welles would have put in a movie…

He’s a grown up version of your seventh grade bully.

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Alyosha  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:31:20am

re: #257 freetoken

Christie seems like the type of personality that Orson Welles would have put in a movie…

I wanna see Christie doing champagne commercials after this noise is over.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:32:15am

Christie comes off as a bit short when he’s standing next to his introducer… not a good choice.

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:33:43am

Some people are getting pretty upset with Bernie,

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Alyosha  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:33:47am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Man I hate shit like that or “When you get a job.” My own parents and grandparents are and were pretty firmly liberal thankfully.

Bunker mentality. An overly competitive and uncertain society engenders this attitude. Any wonder why Tories want to cut holes in the safety net?

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No Depression  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:34:37am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Man I hate shit like that or “When you get a job.” My own parents and grandparents are and were pretty firmly liberal thankfully.

You should count yourself lucky. I’m probably the only liberal in my entire family + extended family.

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stpaulbear  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:35:35am

re: #250 HappyWarrior

Sheesh. That’s sad though. I get the impression she wasn’t always that way though. Sad that some people grow really wingnutty with age. My mom’s cousin is a Trump supporter despite Donald’s love of Putin(Putin banned Americans from adopting kids from Russia) and our cousin adopted kids from Russia. And even weirder is that his one daughter loves Cruz who is a huge xenophobe. I love them as they’re family but it’s sad to see that.

She was a rabid Bill Clinton hater during his presidency so she’s always been conservative. Everyone in my family has just stopped talking about anything remotely political (or even topical) when she’s around because she’s so brittle about it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:35:53am

re: #264 No Depression

You should count yourself lucky. I’m probably the only liberal in my entire extended family.

I have been lucky in that way. I always wonder how I would have turned out if I had been brought up in a conservative household.

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:35:59am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:36:07am

re: #263 100th Monkey

Bunker mentality. An overly competitive and uncertain society engenders this attitude. Any wonder why Tories want to cut holes in the safety net?

Precisely.

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BeachDem  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:36:14am

And speaking of tongue-bathing articles—this one about Kasich is truly nausea-inducing.

cincinnati.com

Either way, the Ohio governor has emerged from the presidential primary more relatable and inspirational and more driven to push the agenda he believes in…

We now know he made it, boosted by the national attention generated by his campaign launch. We know he shined, with Ohioans’ applause accompanying his answers on reaching out to the poor and on accepting people who are gay, despite his opposition to same-sex marriage. That performance, combined with sunny TV commercials in New Hampshire, shot him into “contender” status…

But for Kasich, this campaign is about more than just the next step. It’s about his legacy. At 63, he has spent the last six months reminding the nation of where it would be without him and where he thinks it could go if it gave him one more shot.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:36:45am

re: #265 stpaulbear

She was a rabid Bill Clinton hater during his presidency so she’s always been conservative. Everyone in my family has just stopped talking about anything remotely political (or even topical) when she’s around because she’s so brittle about it.

Ah okay. I know the type unfortunately. Real stubborn ti seems and inconsiderate of all other opinions.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:38:53am

Christie keeps going on about how bad everything is…

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Skip Intro  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:40:35am

re: #271 freetoken

Christie keeps going on about how bad everything is…

Is he talking about New Jersey?

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:40:51am

… very oblique criticism of Cruz…

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Alyosha  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:40:59am

re: #269 BeachDem

Kasich: A Candidate with his Eye on the Ball
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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:41:31am

re: #262 Tigger2

Some people are getting pretty upset with Bernie,

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What I hate is how Bernie is always the victim and pure as snow and the Clinton campaign are the mean spirited ones when they point out that Bernie’s own record isn’t exactly perfect. I was glad to see Barbara Boxer whose record is just as progressive as Bernie’s push back when he pulled that progressive-moderate stunt. Likewise, I am glad to see him getting push back on his crappy record on guns. He can hide behind his state all he wants but if he wants to play that game, Clinton can just as easily point out that Wall Street is a key part of her state’s economy and secondly that guns don’t exist in a vacuum, that is guns purchased in Vermont don’t always stay in Vermont. I’m not even a Clinton supporter but Bernie’s campaign actions have pushed me from someone who was likely to give him a vote out of principle to someone who I don’t think is cut out for the job. And the article touched on FP which is a great point as well.

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stpaulbear  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:41:32am

re: #271 freetoken

Christie keeps going on about how bad everything is…

I’d think things were bad if I was him too.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:43:08am

… criticizes “senators” without naming Cruz…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:43:28am

These guys all think they’re the next Ronald Reagan but they’re all negative assholes. I consider Ronald Reagan and his entire presidency an overall negative on our country but the man was able to project a certain optimism that none of the GOP candidates have.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:44:45am

“… this election can not go to an entertainer-in-chief…”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:45:19am

re: #279 freetoken

“… this election can not go to an entertainer-in-chief…”

Says the guy who likes to yell at people as a way of showing how bad ass he is.

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Alyosha  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:45:59am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

Heh when you can paint America as swimming in the effluence of the world’s septic tank, anything and everything you propose will appear ‘optimistic’.

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:46:16am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

What I hate is how Bernie is always the victim and pure as snow and the Clinton campaign are the mean spirited ones when they point out that Bernie’s own record isn’t exactly perfect. I was glad to see Barbara Boxer whose record is just as progressive as Bernie’s push back when he pulled that progressive-moderate stunt. Likewise, I am glad to see him getting push back on his crappy record on guns. He can hide behind his state all he wants but if he wants to play that game, Clinton can just as easily point out that Wall Street is a key part of her state’s economy and secondly that guns don’t exist in a vacuum, that is guns purchased in Vermont don’t always stay in Vermont. I’m not even a Clinton supporter but Bernie’s campaign actions have pushed me from someone who was likely to give him a vote out of principle to someone who I don’t think is cut out for the job. And the article touched on FP which is a great point as well.

I never did feelthebern because I knew his agenda would go nowhere. I have seen how much Obama has had to go through just to get what he has done accomplished.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:46:28am

Now going on how great he was at fixing the aftermath of hurricane Sandy…

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Alyosha  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:47:22am

re: #283 freetoken

Now going on how great he was at fixing the aftermath of hurricane Sandy…

He got that hug of life from the Pres tho!

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:47:59am

So far has mentioned everyone but Cruz by name.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:48:08am

re: #282 Tigger2

I never did feelthebern because I knew his agenda would go nowhere. I have seen how much Obama has had to go through just to get what he has done accomplished.

Absolutely and I think so many of the diehard Bernie supporters don’t appreciate that. They don’t appreciate that Obama by far has been the most progressive president we’ve ever had on LGBT issues, that he got done on health care what many presidents before him could not, etc. I’d like to point out also that Clinton and Sanders voted the same way 93% of the time. They have differences but it’s not as stark as Bernie wants to make it and some of those voting record differences are in fact on guns which is a legitimate point of criticism of Bernie.

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Skip Intro  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:50:11am

Everything you need to know about the total fraud, Marco Rubio.

And Now, the Marco Memo

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:52:45am

re: #287 Skip Intro

Everything you need to know about the total fraud, Marco Rubio.

And Now, the Marco Memo

The two churches thing I think is really allegorical for how two faced this guy is.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:54:11am

re: #262 Tigger2

Some people are getting pretty upset with Bernie,

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It’s Bloomberg. They’re overhyping this. People way way too much attention to small details that really don’t matter in the long run. The Clinton Obama fights were going to ruin the party in 2008.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:54:33am

re: #289 Belafon

It’seems Bloomberg. They’re overhyping this. People way way too much attention to small details that really don’t matter in the long run. The Clinton Obama fights were going to ruin the party in 2008.

Yeah true.

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BeachDem  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:56:42am

re: #282 Tigger2

I never did feelthebern because I knew his agenda would go nowhere. I have seen how much Obama has had to go through just to get what he has done accomplished.

I also have a problem when someone running as a Democrat says:

“You don’t change the system from within the Democratic Party.”

“My own feeling is that the Democratic Party is ideologically bankrupt.”

“We have to ask ourselves, ‘Why should we work within the Democratic Party if we don’t agree with anything the Democratic Party says?’”

Yep—Bernie said all of those things. It’s like someone coming into your house and ripping up your carpet because he thinks hardwood floors are better.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:57:24am

Let me put it this way, I like a lot of what Bernie stands for and a lot of the progress we’ve made stands a better chance of holding up if Clinton is president and not Bernie. Bernie may be arguably more progressive than Hillary but I think more importantly Hillary is more equipped to make sure the progress we have made is allowed to stand for future generations. I’m sure Hillary’s already got a list of people who she would consider for the Supreme Court vacancies that are sure to come in the next four to eight years and i honestly don’t have that comfort with Bernie.

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Alyosha  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:57:41am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

The two churches thing I think is really allegorical for how two faced this guy is.

Certifiable POS, as you’ve so boldly stated :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:58:24am

don’t think that will help much…

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Alyosha  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:59:08am

re: #291 BeachDem

Importantly, after a recent and expensive fucking renovation, too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 8:59:40am

re: #291 BeachDem

I also have a problem when someone running as a Democrat says:

“You don’t change the system from within the Democratic Party.”

“My own feeling is that the Democratic Party is ideologically bankrupt.”

“We have to ask ourselves, ‘Why should we work within the Democratic Party if we don’t agree with anything the Democratic Party says?’”

Yep—Bernie said all of those things. It’s like someone coming into your house and ripping up your carpet because he thinks hardwood floors are better.

Well he hasn’t been a Democrat for long anyhow. That’s something I will concede I overlooked big time when I earlier supported him. He just isn’t a team player. And you need to be to be President. Bernie at times and I hate hate saying this sounds like a left wing version of the Tea Party and while I’m staunchy left wing, I’ve never wanted that. I want flexibility in my President and I don’t see that with Bernie and I unfortunately wish many of his supporters, many I call friend would be understand the importance of flexibility in leading a nation.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:00:48am

re: #293 100th Monkey

Certifiable POS, as you’ve so boldly stated :)

He just so pisses me off. He loves to brag about his humble son of immigrants roots and then say one thing when he’s trying to win the hearts of bigoted GOP voters who freak out whenever they hear Spanish uttered and more moderate things when he’s trying to sound presidential. He’s a pendejo.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:01:46am

Christie going on and on and on about how he’ll be the greatest commander-in-chief… without ever questioning if it might not be better to send young men (and that is how Christie sees the military - male) off to war to begin with.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:03:26am

Never mentioned Cruz by name - odd.

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stpaulbear  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:03:31am

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

don’t think that will help much…

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Can I pray that the nature-desectrators are removed from the refuge?

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:04:35am

“If you want an America like the one I grew up with…”

Finally, in the last sentence, Christie gets to the point of the entire GOP circus.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:04:44am

… more bad music …

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:06:08am

re: #301 freetoken

“If you want an America like the one I grew up with…”

Finally, in the last sentence, Christie gets to the point of the entire GOP circus.

Yep, reminding their base about the “good old days” that they always exagerreate in their minds. I’m so fucking sick of that shit.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:06:40am

re: #302 freetoken

… more bad music …

Anyone in particular? Heh but yeah campaign rallies especially Republican ones are filled with bad tunes.

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Alyosha  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:07:09am

re: #297 HappyWarrior

He just so pisses me off. He loves to brag about his humble son of immigrants roots and then say one thing when he’s trying to win the hearts of bigoted GOP voters who freak out whenever they hear Spanish uttered and more moderate things when he’s trying to sound presidential. He’s a pendejo.

All I saw of the last debate (coz I’m a masochist and just enjoy having my misanthropic buttons twiddled) was Rubio receiving a question about a ‘saviour’.
Whether it was in reference to a fiscal or international saviour; a saviour of the highways, overpasses and bridges; a saviour of the poor who rely on unemployment benefits and healthcare I don’t know.
Coz the next thirty seconds was tsken up by an on-air Christ Job.

Seriously gross.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:08:42am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:09:46am

I wonder if Franklin Graham told Bundy “Thanks but you’re damned to hell anyhow for being a Mormon.”

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:11:27am

re: #304 HappyWarrior

Anyone in particular? Heh but yeah campaign rallies especially Republican ones are filled with bad tunes.

Just undecipherable “rock” from somewhere in the 1980’s, I think.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:11:58am

re: #308 freetoken

Just undecipherable “rock” from somewhere in the 1980’s, I think.

Agh you got me when you said 1980’s and Rock. Enough said.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:11:58am

When I was a kid, gal bladder surgery left a major scar and you were in the hospital surgery for a week. Now, it’s outpatient surgery.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:13:47am

re: #310 Belafon

When I was a kid, polio was still a thing.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:14:38am

re: #310 Belafon

When I was a kid, gal bladder surgery left a major scar and you were in the hospital surgery for a week. Now, it’s outpatient surgery.

That’s what these Republican candidates are too chicken shit to tell their base, things are better. Maybe a guy like Christie isn’t consciously trying to talk about how society was a lot more racially segregated back then but I can’t help but to think about that when he brings up how “better” things were in the America he grew up in.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:14:42am

Open heart surgery isn’t open any more.

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Belafon  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:16:11am

re: #312 HappyWarrior

That’s what these Republican candidates are too chicken shit to tell their base, things are better. Maybe a guy like Christie isn’t consciously trying to talk about how society was a lot more racially segregated back then but I can’t help but to think about that when he brings up how “better” things were in the America he grew up in.

Yep, better just means more white.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:16:26am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

When I was a kid, polio was still a thing.

I mentioned this a couple weeks ago when talking about my grandparents but each other them had either a sibling or parent die as children. Nowasays children dying is quite rare in this country. When Christie and other R’s talk about the past, they’re talking about a past that never existed. I’m sure he had a wonderful childhood but the America that Chris Christie grew up in was not Utopia and a lot of the good things about it were due to the economic policies he despises.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:16:48am

re: #314 Belafon

Yep, better just means more white.

Yeah and blacks, gays, and others knowing their place.

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allegro  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:20:07am

re: #305 100th Monkey

The speech I’m wanting to hear:

I believe in salvation. Salvation is wholesome, safe food in our citizen’s bellies, sound shelters to protect us from the cold, and medicine to enable recovery and comfort to the sick. Salvation is an educated people with equal opportunity for all from birth to death. Salvation is the confidence to walk and drive our streets without the fear of drunks and morons waving guns that senselessly threaten our lives and the lives of our children. Salvation is reproductive choice to help ensure all of our chldren are wanted, loved, and cared for so they can grow to be productive and valuable citizens.

That’s the salvation I believe in and will work every day in office to achieve. The American people deserve no less.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:20:22am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

Yeah and blacks, gays, and others knowing their place.

And women too. Now they all want paid for their work, some don’t want to be pregnant all the time, and they even want shoes to leave the kitchen. What is this country coming to? Save us Phyllis Schlafly!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:21:03am

re: #317 allegro

The speech I’m wanting to hear:

I believe in salvation. Salvation is wholesome, safe food in our citizen’s bellies, sound shelters to protect us from the cold, and medicine to enable recovery and comfort to the sick. Salvation is an educated people with equal opportunity for all from birth to death. Salvation is the confidence to walk and drive our streets without the fear of drunks and morons waving guns that senselessly threaten our lives and the lives of our children. Salvation is reproductive choice to help ensure all of our chldren are wanted, loved, and cared for so they can grow to be productive and valuable citizens.

That’s the salvation I believe in and will work every day in office to achieve. The American people deserve no less.

Sad thing is if you said that to an Evangelical audience, you’d probably get booed off the stage.

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:22:05am

re: #312 HappyWarrior

That’s what these Republican candidates are too chicken shit to tell their base, things are better. Maybe a guy like Christie isn’t consciously trying to talk about how society was a lot more racially segregated back then but I can’t help but to think about that when he brings up how “better” things were in the America he grew up in.

My Gal Bladder was taken out by Laparoscopy I was out the next day carried in groceries we got on the way home from the hospital then painted my daughters room that night. yep it’s a lot easier now of days.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:22:40am

re: #318 Eventual Carrion

And women too. Now they all want paid for their work, some don’t want to be pregnant all the time, and they even want shoes to leave the kitchen. What is this country coming to? Save us Phyllis Schlafly!

I cannot believe Phyillis Schalfry who wrote her book about a Choice not an Echo or whatever when my mother now a grandmother was five is still a thing in conservative politics. I think Phyillis is the ultimate hypocrite. Makes a living about how women who work outside the home are awful and detrimental to society and yet here she’s been the past half century doing just that. Shouldn’t she be baking Mr. Schalfry cookies and making him a delicious sandwich>? //

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HappyWarrior  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:24:01am

re: #320 Tigger2

My Gal Bladder was taken out by Laparoscopy I was out the next day carried in groceries we got on the way home from the hospital then painted my daughters room that night. yep it’s a lot easier now of days.

They really are. And it’s a damn shame that Republican voters loving being spoonfed this crap about how society has gotten worse not better.

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No Depression  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:27:29am

re: #312 HappyWarrior

That’s what these Republican candidates are too chicken shit to tell their base, things are better. Maybe a guy like Christie isn’t consciously trying to talk about how society was a lot more racially segregated back then but I can’t help but to think about that when he brings up how “better” things were in the America he grew up in.

I’d love to return to the good ol’ days where my disability meant a life sentence in a nursing home.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:32:03am

WaPo keeps churning out the headlines:

Clinton’s New Hampshire challenge: Winning trust

I am certain, by now, that WaPo will find a way to justify bringing up Vince Foster again.

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wrenchwench  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:32:28am

Sturdy lizard:

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stpaulbear  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:33:34am

I think that everyone here knows that I’m a complete computer moron. I’m finally replacing my 8 year old computer.

I need to have MS office on the new computer. Does anyone have advice as to going with 365 vs. buying a license outright?

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:33:59am

The NH Democratic primary is really being spinned, far ahead of the actual results.

It’s one of the few contests Bernie is likely to win, so now it gets to be the litmus test on whether Hillary is trustworthy.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:34:32am

How about return to the good old days of collective bargaining by strong unions?

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Joe Bacon  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:36:38am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

I wonder if Franklin Graham told Bundy “Thanks but you’re damned to hell anyhow for being a Mormon.”

Here’s a hint of how Pulpit Pimp Franky would react—he endlessly kissed Romney’s ass in 2012 and gave that “godless” Mormon his full endorsement.

Franky learned that asskissing routine from his anti-Semitic daddy who endlessly flaunted wearing Nixon’s brown lipstick. And by the way ol’ Bulshitter Billy NEVER apologized when the Nixon tapes were made public showing what an anti-Semite he is.

I wonder who is the bigger bigot in the Graham Cracker family—Franky, Billy or Franky’s sister who sure hates them “Gawdless” queers…

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allegro  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:36:43am

There actually were some good ol’ days in some respects like a thriving middle class where a single income could support a family and when we had 70+% tax rate on the highest incomes so multi-million dollar CEO salaries didn’t pay off. Strong unions were there to raise the middle class and help prevent employee abuse.

Strangely, those are not the good ol’ days Republicans want to return to.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:39:18am

re: #330 allegro

There actually were some good ol’ days in some respects like a thriving middle class where a single income could support a family and when we had 70+% tax rate on the highest incomes so multi-million dollar CEO salaries didn’t pay off. Strong unions were there to raise the middle class and help prevent employee abuse.

Strangely, those are not the good ol’ days Republicans want to return to.

I remember growing up in the 60s in a Western Pennsylvania steel town where Dad made enough money in the mill that Mom could stay home and raise the kids. Dad made enough money to buy a house, a car, take a vacation every year and put the kids through college.

Those days died when Reagan broke the unions and gave the rich endless welfare in the form of deep tax cuts. The mills died, and were replaced by WalMarts, McDonald’s and “service” jobs that paid maybe a third of what the mill did.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:41:08am

The brief (2 to 3 decade) era of a post-WW-II America, where we were able to grow without limits to energy supply, and without counting the costs of our reckless development, probably cannot be replicated.

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:41:20am

One of Sanders Supporters.

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allegro  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:41:48am

re: #331 Joe Bacon

I remember growing up in the 60s in a Western Pennsylvania steel town where Dad made enough money in the mill that Mom could stay home and raise the kids. Dad made enough money to buy a house, a car, take a vacation every year and put the kids through college.

Those days died when Reagan broke the unions and gave the rich endless welfare in the form of deep tax cuts.

I grew up in those days as well with an almost identical story.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:44:45am

re: #334 allegro

I grew up in those days as well with an almost identical story.

College was affordable in the 70s. Tuition at Pitt was $500 a trimester and another $500 for room and board.

Those costs are now 10 times what they were when I was an undergrad. Now we’ve hired a new group of kids who have $100K of college loans to pay off. They’re shackled to the banks for life.

It was difficult for me at times to pay back the $8.250 I borrowed. But I was on Easy Street compared to these kids. They will never have a chance to buy a house or a car or raise a family…

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wrenchwench  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:45:02am

[…]

McClelland hopes to expand his company — Bamb Ecological Technology Inc. — beyond just bikes, with housing, flooring and construction of bamboo products still another phase of green building not yet the norm in the Philippines.

But that will require him staying abroad longer. During a recent visit home to the U.S., he acknowledged that the surge in startups by foreigners coming to the Philippines has taken off.

“A lot of [Filipino-American] kids are going back because they see the opportunity. It’s something that wasn’t there with the economy before,” he said.

“For the immediate future,” he added, “the Philippines is my home.”

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ObserverArt  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:46:25am

Hey all!

Reading through this thread a bit and catching Freetoken’s play-by-play* of Chris Christie’s rally makes me want to make a small statement. Some of the words will be familiar.

- -

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal” and we no longer need presidential candidates like Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Donald Trump

And when this happens, and when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all Americans, Black men, Brown, Yellow and White men, Jews, Muslims, Gentiles, Protestants, Catholics and all other religions and those not religious, will be able to join hands and state together… Free at last! Free at last! Rid of fundamental and backward conservative thinking we are free at last!

We can make it so.Thank You!

- -

*Freetoken. I don’t know how you do this to yourself…all this listening in to all these rallys and speeches, debates and what not. It has to be maddening. I hope it doesn’t take an undue toll on you. It’s bad enough catching snippets of all this bloviating insanity on TV, on the ‘net and in these discussion. It is enough to drive the sane mad.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:46:31am

re: #336 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

He’s learned that the only opportunity to succeed that remains in America is to buy a winning Powerball ticket.

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:51:29am

Mullah Mohler is continually marching, and bringing his institution along, towards turning the Southern Baptist Convention into a political entity, and one that is markedly theocratic, and bigoted.

Among his latest improvements to his site is adding the word “Islam” to the three topics on his short tag list of audio recordings that is prominently displayed.

Still, Mohler makes no doubt about it - the number one enemy of Christianity and America is…. sex:

Secularization and the Sexual Revolution: Evangelical Theology and the Cultural Crisis (Part 1) The challenge of the moral revolution threatens to shake the very foundations of Christianity in the United States and far beyond.

In the face of the sexual revolution the Christian church in the West now faces a set of challenges that exceeds anything it has experienced, of a similar magnitude, in the past. This is a revolution of ideas—one that is transforming the entire moral structure of meaning and life. These challenges would be vexing enough for any generation. But the contours of our current challenge have to be understood over against the affecting reality for virtually everything on the American landscape, and furthermore in the West. This revolution, like all revolutions, takes few prisoners. In other words, it demands total acceptance of its revolutionary claims and the affirmation of its aims. This is the problem now faced by Christians who are committed to uncompromising faithfulness to the Bible as the Word of God and to the gospel as the only message of salvation.

[…]

” … challenges that exceeds anything it has experienced” - a bit histrionic, I think.

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 9:56:35am
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WhatEVs  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:05:48am

re: #291 BeachDem

I also have a problem when someone running as a Democrat says:

“You don’t change the system from within the Democratic Party.”

“My own feeling is that the Democratic Party is ideologically bankrupt.”

“We have to ask ourselves, ‘Why should we work within the Democratic Party if we don’t agree with anything the Democratic Party says?’”

Yep—Bernie said all of those things. It’s like someone coming into your house and ripping up your carpet because he thinks hardwood floors are better.

And he’s not smart enough to know its luan under the carpets not hardwood.

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WhatEVs  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:06:49am

re: #298 freetoken

Christie going on and on and on about how he’ll be the greatest commander-in-chief… without ever questioning if it might not be better to send young men (and that is how Christie sees the military - male) off to war to begin with.

When did POTUS become commander in chief and nothing else?

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:10:26am

re: #342 WhatEVs

When did POTUS become commander in chief and nothing else?

War lust is not uncommon.

However, I gather this is still part of the I-will-out-Reagan-Reagan-by-being-more-manly stance that Republicans have taken since Bill Clinton beat GHWB.

The intellectual is an afront to the militaristic alpha-male types. Thus Obama hatred (which isn’t completely due to his African father.)

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:11:25am
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Belafon  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:12:09am

re: #342 WhatEVs

When did POTUS become commander in chief and nothing else?

Nullification. No reason for the president to care about the affairs of state.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:22:52am
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:24:05am

re: #25 EPR-radar

Any attempt to enact this will be an absolute disaster. The United States itself is predicated on the Enlightenment.

The ideals expressed in the Declaration of Independence can’t even be expressed in pre-Enlightenment language.

Nobody tell Rod Dreher.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:24:13am
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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:25:12am

re: #348 Charles Johnson

I wonder what the neurologist would say…

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Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:29:28am

IRRELEVANT!

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ObserverArt  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:30:11am

“Years of research!!!”

The Charles C. Johnson Tank Think.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:33:33am
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jaunte  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:33:33am

re: #348 Charles Johnson

Ship Anchors For Cruz!

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:36:47am

Gus is having fun with some Bernie supporters.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:37:00am
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Stanley Sea  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:37:34am

re: #344 freetoken

This is getting some play on Facebook:

Neurologist explains why it’s hard to look at Ted Cruz’s creepy ‘unsettling’ face

“google Ted Cruz smiling”

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Skip Intro  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:37:46am

Here are two examples of Rage Furby’s “years of research” on Marco Rubio.

Two things to note: neither of them has Rage’s name on them, and the second one comes from Rage’s favorite source, The Daily Stormer.

washingtonpost.com

dailystormer.com

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:38:24am

re: #349 freetoken

I wonder what the neurologist would say…

What was that German word for “a face that one wants to punch”?

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wrenchwench  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:38:38am

So shrill…

/

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freetoken  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:39:35am

re: #358 Barefoot Grin

What was that German word for “a face that one wants to punch”?

Stanzfähigem Gesicht ?

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Tigger2  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:45:58am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:47:02am

re: #360 freetoken

Stanzfähigem Gesicht ?

Backpfeifengesicht.

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TedStriker  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:47:37am

re: #354 Tigger2

Gus is having fun.

[Embedded content]

He seems to be.

I miss him here and I hope he comes back soon.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:49:55am

Heh

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jaunte  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:50:39am

re: #356 Stanley Sea

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ObserverArt  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:54:08am

re: #359 wrenchwench

So shrill…

/

[Embedded content]

It’s all fake!!!!

I bets there was a oniun some where. We needs reel emoshuns like those from Ted Cruz and Ronald Trump. Not shrill uncaring Clinton macheen!

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ObserverArt  Feb 6, 2016 • 10:54:58am

re: #363 TedStriker

He seems to be.

I miss him here and I hope he comes back soon.

Me too.

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Targetpractice  Feb 6, 2016 • 11:02:01am

re: #361 Tigger2

[Embedded content]

Yeah, that’s the biggest obstacle right now standing in my way of supporting the man, the idea among his supporters that the only people who are willing to jump on the bandwagon are socialists who want a revolution, and not people like me who just don’t want a President Cruz or Rubio.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 6, 2016 • 11:06:12am

re: #362 Dr Lizardo

Backpfeifengesicht.

That’s the one from the article. The only German word I can remember is Reinheistgebot.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2016 • 11:19:14am

Media neurologist: “Cruz is too ugly to be President.”
Sad fact: “Rubio is pretty enough to be President.”

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CuriousLurker  Feb 6, 2016 • 11:41:02am

re: #344 freetoken

This is getting some play on Facebook:

Neurologist explains why it’s hard to look at Ted Cruz’s creepy ‘unsettling’ face

Cruz’s slimy, insincere “smile” looks just like like Ginger Snapped’s—google their photo in separate tabs and switch back & forth.

They have many of the same facial expressions and ways of tilting their heads, and both exude a particularly repellent stench smug narcissism. They also both seem to enjoy fellating big, fat cigars (like the Rage Furby’s hero, Zimmerman).

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CleverToad  Feb 6, 2016 • 2:27:32pm

re: #359 wrenchwench

So shrill…

/

[Embedded content]

Yeah, I know, I’m a thread behind. But this hit home soooooo hard.


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