Revealed: A White Supremacist Leader Has Been Working in the US State Department Since 2013

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Well, here’s a comforting bit of information: according to the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Hatewatch, a US State Department official hired in 2013 is deeply involved in the white supremacist movement.

A U.S. State Department official oversaw the Washington, D.C.-area chapter of a white nationalist organization, hosted white nationalists at his home and published white nationalist propaganda online, Hatewatch has determined.

The official, Matthew Q. Gebert, works as a foreign affairs officer assigned to the Bureau of Energy Resources, a State Department spokesperson told Hatewatch. Online, and in private correspondences with other white nationalists, Gebert uses “Coach Finstock” as a pseudonym. Through that alias, he expressed a desire to build a country for whites only.

“[Whites] need a country of our own with nukes, and we will retake this thing lickety split,” “Coach Finstock” said on a May 2018 episode of “The Fatherland,” a white nationalist podcast. “That’s all that we need. We need a country founded for white people with a nuclear deterrent. And you watch how the world trembles.”

UPDATE at 8/7/19 11:53:35 am by Charles Johnson

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804 comments
1
Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:46:36am

From the last thread:
re: #317 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Right-wingers thrilled that the Dayton killer was apparently into both mass murder and leftwing politics so they can play their favorites games of “whatabout” and “bothsides”.

While ignoring he also supported John Cornyn.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:47:40am

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹🎃

From the last thread:

While ignoring he also supported John Cornyn.

Huh why would an Ohioan be supporting Cornyn? Is there something I missed?

3
Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:48:13am

Fox will chime in saying that the person was hired by Obama in 5…4…3…2…1…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:48:33am

I wanted to work for the State Department. I took the FSOE. The best two years I’ve never been more happier to failed.

5
retired cynic  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:49:19am

thisiscolossal.com

A 4-minute video that explains the 12-month process of making this oriental lacquered box. I loved it!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:50:41am

re: #4 HappyWarrior

I wanted to work for the State Department. I took the FSOE. The best two years I’ve never been more happier to failed.

I passed the FSOE, got to the second level but wasn’t hired. Now I’m glad I wasn’t hired by them…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:50:55am

re: #3 Joe Bacon 🌹

Fox will chime in saying that the person was hired by Obama in 5…4…3…2…1…

Obama who hates white people is a white supremacist!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:51:57am

This is just the tip of the iceberg. I guarantee you there are dozens of these assholes in government right now.

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:51:58am

The more you look, the more you’ll find that white supremacists and extremists are in all areas of the government (federal and state). White supremacist, christian identity, and other violent extremist groups make effort to recruit in law enforcement and the military (same as the 3% movement and the sovereign citizen movements).

They often circulate conspiracy theories and radical extremist beliefs, signaling to others who might have similar beliefs.

Where there’s one, there’s a lot more than one.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:52:52am

re: #9 lawhawk

GMTA.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:53:59am

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹🎃

From the last thread:

While ignoring he also supported John Cornyn.

Good! Got a link for that info?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:54:41am

Some of those that work forces.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:55:14am

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

This is just the tip of the iceberg. I guarantee you there are dozens of these assholes in government right now.

Just in the White House alone!

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:56:03am

BRAIN BLEACH

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:56:03am

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Huh why would an Ohioan be supporting Cornyn? Is there something I missed?

He also expressed support for some of Cornyn’s positions. Cornyn is getting dragged on Twitter over it.

From the previous thread:

re: #266 Charles Johnson

Minorities all look alike to conservatives.

Heck some of us white people get lumped in with groups such as Hispanics because of skin colour, even with a Polish name.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:58:37am

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹🎃

He also expressed support for some of Cornyn’s positions. Cornyn is getting dragged on Twitter over it.

From the previous thread:

Minorities all look alike to conservatives.

Heck some of us white people get lumped in with groups such as Hispanics because of skin colour, even with a Polish name.

Link

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:59:06am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Are the same that burn crosses.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:59:39am

re: #5 retired cynic

thisiscolossal.com

A 4-minute video that explains the 12-month process of making this oriental lacquered box. I loved it!

[Embedded content]

That was amazing!!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:02:21am

re: #11 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Good! Got a link for that info?

I should clarify, he supported some of Cornyn’s positions, not necessarily Cornyn himself.

Lots of comments about that after you get past the derp.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:04:32am

There is a biplane spraying at the edges of town over the Beerline Canal and North Platte River for mosquito control. It is flying over my house as it sets up for runs.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:04:34am

I remember when I first heard “Killing in the Name Of” and the “some of those that work forces” line, I thought, “Man that song rocks hard but these lyrics are pretty over the top.”

I don’t think it’s over the top any more.

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stpaulbear  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:07:04am

re: #14 The Pie Overlord!

BRAIN BLEACH

WTF?

edit: Usually ‘brain bleach’ means something that you want to un-see. Those guys could be any of my friends (or me, if I actually had a positive attitude). Curious as to what you meant.

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:07:43am

The official, Matthew Q. Gebert

Instant hero to a certain subset of imbeciles.

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:07:49am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

I remember when I first heard “Killing in the Name Of” and the “some of those that work forces” line, I thought, “Man that song rocks hard but these lyrics are pretty over the top.”

I don’t think it’s over the top any more.

And to think that wonky Paul Ryan claims that he’s a fan. It’s as though he never listened or understood the lyrics in the slightest.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:08:10am

re: #23 makeitstop

The official, Matthew Q. Gebert

Instant hero to a certain subset of imbeciles.

Oh, hell.

What are the odds?

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:08:55am

re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh, hell.

What are the odds?

Inorite?

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Ming5000  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:09:27am

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🎃

There is a biplane spraying at the edges of town over the Beerline Canal and North Platte River for mosquito control. It is flying over my house as it sets up for runs.

Sucker, them’s chemtrails

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:09:46am

Charles this goes back… But I think I recall you pointing out a frightening prevalence of end times Christians in the Air Force?
Along these lines.

Air Force Academy Staff Found Promoting Religion
By Laurie Goodstein
June 23, 2005
nytimes.com

Anyway, we had this too ffs, just last year.

EVANGELICAL U.S. AIR FORCE GENERAL HAS SECRETLY BEEN RUNNING A CHRISTIAN ONLINE MINISTRY IN POSSIBLE VIOLATION OF RULES: EXCLUSIVE
newsweek.com

White Supremacy, Evangelists, and nukes. The most dangerous boys with terrifying toys.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:10:56am

re: #4 HappyWarrior

I wanted to work for the State Department. I took the FSOE. The best two years I’ve never been more happier to failed.

I passed it twice, went to the interviews. Failed them both times, minimum cutoff score is 70. I did get a 69 on the second pass, which was sort of an invitation on their part to have another go at it but I never followed up.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:12:22am

re: #23 makeitstop

The official, Matthew Q. Gebert

Instant hero to a certain subset of imbeciles.

I keep wanting to read that as “Matthew Qbert.” Clearly, my mind has been warped by video games.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:14:30am

re: #22 stpaulbear

WTF?

edit: Usually ‘brain bleach’ means something that you want to un-see. Those guys could be any of my friends (or me, if I actually had a positive attitude). Curious as to what you meant.

I was confused to. Then I realized, since it was her own tweet, that it was the brain bleach to cleanse away all the bad shit of the last few days.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:14:42am

re: #29 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I passed it twice, went to the interviews. Failed them both times, minimum cutoff score is 70. I did get a 69 on the second pass, which was sort of an invitation on their part to have another go at it but I never followed up.

My score was 95. Had a second round with 8 others who passed and they had us play Diplomacy. I drew Austria and got slaughtered within an hour.

“Thank you for participating, Mr. Bacon…”

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gocart mozart  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:14:48am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:16:09am

This month’s print VFW Magazine has a prominent cover article on the VFW sponsoring it’s first all-girl Boy Scout troop.

The Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts should merge, but the Girl Scouts permit atheists so that won’t happen.

The VFW also sponsors Girl Scout troops.

The VFW has removed the requirement for religious belief from its list of things to be a member which was there when I joined when I was still in the Navy.

vfw.org (membership requirements).

The Boy Scouts announced to the American Legion last year they would allow no co-ed groups.

legion.org

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:16:32am

re: #24 lawhawk

To be fair, Paul Ryan is the type that thinks Bruce Springsteen’s “Born in the USA” is patriotic.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:17:01am

Coming up, 3PM EDT

Walmart employees are staging a walkout to protest gun sales

Hundreds of white-collar Walmart employees are expected to walk out Wednesday afternoon to protest the retailer’s gun policies after shootings at two company stores left 24 people dead.

Workers at Walmart’s e-commerce offices in San Bruno, Calif., Portland, Ore., and Brooklyn are taking action to urge the world’s largest retailer to stop selling guns and discontinue donations to politicians who receive funding from the National Rifle Association. Walmart sells guns in about half of its 4,750 U.S. stores, making it one of the nation’s largest retailers of firearms and ammunition.

The protest, planned for 3 p.m., comes after a gunman killed 22 people and wounded dozens of others at a Walmart store in El Paso on Saturday. Days earlier, a Walmart employee fatally shot two co-workers at a store in Southaven, Miss.

But wait:
Walmart Retaliates Against Worker Who Urged Employee Walkout Over Gun Sales

Following a pair of deadly mass shootings over the weekend, including one at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, a Walmart e-commerce category specialist, Thomas Marshall, posted two memos widely within the company, urging mass action by employees to pressure management to cease the sale of firearms. Now, Marshall claims he and one of his colleagues are unable to access their internal accounts.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:19:57am

re: #27 Ming5000

Sucker, them’s chemtrails

LOL chemtrails can only be spread by jet aircraft tens of thousands of feet up. Otherwise how can you implement the New World Order agenda on thousands of people at once?

(Gaa, I’ve been reading too many conspiracy theories. It’s amazing how much that actually pops up in my Christian religious counter-apologetics.)

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:21:35am

re: #22 stpaulbear

WTF?

Something nice and happy and good feels after all the horrible things that we have seen the last few days.

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FourEyeFreckleFace  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:22:34am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

I remember when I first heard “Killing in the Name Of” and the “some of those that work forces” line, I thought, “Man that song rocks hard but these lyrics are pretty over the top.”

I don’t think it’s over the top any more.

Loved their (occasional) live variant:
Some of those that burn crosses
Are the same who hold office

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:23:00am
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MsJ  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:23:39am

Our futures…the latest in scooters. The BoomerBuggy.

daymak.com

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stpaulbear  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:24:33am

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

Something nice and happy and good feels after all the horrible things that we have seen the last few days.

:)

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:25:26am

re: #3 Joe Bacon 🌹

Fox will chime in saying that the person was hired by Obama in 5…4…3…2…1…

Another Fox talking point: “As long as he’s doing his job, who cares what’s his personal beliefs are! This is McCarthyism!”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:27:29am

re: #14 The Pie Overlord!

BRAIN BLEACH

Huh? Why the brain bleach when your tweet implies the exact opposite?

Never mind. Slow brain day and all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:27:49am

re: #28 Rightwingconspirator

EVANGELICAL U.S. AIR FORCE GENERAL HAS SECRETLY BEEN RUNNING A CHRISTIAN ONLINE MINISTRY IN POSSIBLE VIOLATION OF RULES: EXCLUSIVE

The USAF Academy is one of the places that the Christian Fundamentalists have successfully infiltrated.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:28:19am

re: #44 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Huh? Why the brain bleach when your tweet implies the exact opposite?

I’m pretty sure it is the brain bleach.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:28:38am

Prior thread:

re: #323 Barefoot Grin

[Trumpmobile] I saw one of these in Concord, NH recently. About 50/50 “seek forgiveness from Jesus’/”Trump will save us”.

And yet Trump says he has nothing to repent for. It’s on tape; facts must be ignored to defend the faith.

Trump will save us from what? Not mass-shooters. Not racists. Not an economic collapse. (You can lay all those at his feet.)

It’s sort of like crank magnetism except for religion.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:29:36am

A lonely GOP voice for sanity.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:29:46am

re: #31 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I was confused to. Then I realized, since it was her own tweet, that it was the brain bleach to cleanse away all the bad shit of the last few days.

I can see that. Thanks.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:30:03am

re: #44 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Huh? Why the brain bleach when your tweet implies the exact opposite?

The tweet IS the brain bleach.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:30:14am

re: #48 NO SMOCKING GUN!

That is 100% accurate.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:30:58am

re: #48 NO SMOCKING GUN!

A lonely GOP voice for sanity.

“Heritage not hate.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:31:41am

re: #46 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m pretty sure it is the brain bleach.

Exactly.

VB / PO was saying “Hey, here’s something to cleanse your mind from all the Trump related bullshit that it’s likely filled with right now!”

Unfortunately, since the term “brain bleach” is usually used in reference to an unfavorable or particularly graphic image, the inference was that VB was reacting negatively to what she posted.

She wasn’t.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:31:42am

re: #52 Belafon

“I’m just honoring history.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:32:02am

re: #48 NO SMOCKING GUN!

A lonely GOP voice for sanity.

[Embedded content]

I like this guy.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:32:58am

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

Something nice and happy and good feels after all the horrible things that we have seen the last few days.

Gotcha. Just didn’t click with me.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:34:50am

That Tweet is meant to make you smile and fill up with warm happies seeing those loving daddies with their adorable little boy. It is supposed to “bleach away” those bad Trump feels, and also learn some Español.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:35:34am

re: #46 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m pretty sure it is the brain bleach.

re: #50 The Pie Overlord!

The tweet IS the brain bleach.

So I have been informed. Post corrected to show new (but slow) understanding.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:35:39am

re: #48 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Years from now, when Donald Trump is just a painful memory, Republican lawmakers everywhere will try to say they “never liked him.”

This is like my ex telling people that she never loved me, we just had four kids together

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:35:40am

re: #48 NO SMOCKING GUN!

A lonely GOP voice for sanity.

Years from now, when Donald Trump is just a painful memory, Republican lawmakers everywhere will try to say they “never liked him.”

wont work
their historical silence and inaction will be incontrovertible

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:35:55am

Did I see this here?

google.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:36:01am

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The USAF Academy is one of the places that the Christian Fundamentalists have successfully infiltrated.

My wife knows the wife of the last Democratic mayor of Colorado Springs (he’s deceased).

That woman was there to watch the religious takeover of the city council and turning what was a fairly liberal city into a religious beacon for fundies, while the mainline churches promoted the fundies for their own religious agendas (then got marginalised when they were no longer needed).

Liar for Jesus Gordon Klingenschmitt served his one term in the Colorado House from there, and narrowly lost a later bid for city council in an at-large election where another Republican barely edged past him.

That guy later became Colorado Secretary of State, and complied with Kris Kobach’s voter suppression commission under Donald Trump and sent all the voter data to the commission. (My own red state refused to send anything except what was publicly available, and only if the Feds paid the fee for compiling it.)

The Colorado wingnut was defeated in the 2018 Blue Wave and replaced with a Democrat.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:37:33am

Just paged this, as a reaction to what Rep. Joaquin Castro has done today. For those of you not familiar, he posted the names of prominent Trump donors:

“REP JOAQUIN CASTRO: I’ve heard so many stories from folks the last few years, but in particular the last few months as his campaign has started to intensify, about how they don’t feel safe. These are brown-skinned people that can’t hide their skin color. They can’t hide themselves in public. He’s made them a constant target. they can’t get away from that. Every time they go outside, they’re fearful. So, yeah, you’ve got a lot of people in this country that are living in fear because of this president. And what I’m asking for is for people who are making contributions to that effort to think twice about it, and I’m directly asking the president to stop spending money on campaign ads that target an entire community and inspire shooters like the one in El Paso to go do what he did.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:38:42am

re: #60 DangerMan

wont work
their historical silence and inaction will be incontrovertible

They did a pretty good job about forgetting W.
They forgot all about Reagan’s massive corruption and Iran-Contra.
They forgot all about Nixon’s corruption.

They forget about all the times they exploded the debt. They forget about all the recessions and depressions they caused.

Why should the future be any different? Facts which contravene religious belief must be ignored (I will keep hammering that home about conservatism).

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:40:20am

Continuing:

What Joaquin Castro has done has to be just the beginning. We need to name-and-shame each and every one of Trump’s enthusiastic supporters. By this point they know.

They fucking KNOW.

No letting them cling to the excuses that the Germans living near the concentration camps, that they “didn’t know what was happening and now that they do, they are shocked.”

They are not shocked. They have stuck with Trump not despite his racism, sexism, homophobia, mocking of the families of dead war heroes, vulgarity and corruption ..

BUT BECAUSE OF IT.

We can no longer allow ourselves the luxury of trying to understand these people. After this week, they have revealed themselves as capable of condoning anything.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:41:10am

re: #60 DangerMan

wont work
their historical silence and inaction will be incontrovertible

They’ve done it with Bush.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:41:45am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is like my ex telling people that she never loved me, we just had four kids together

LOL and my ex- with our one child.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:42:33am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Did I see this here?

google.com

Saw that yesterday. Today’s article notes he may not be released under his own recognizance as it was noted yesterday. He shouldn’t be. He’s a violent previously convicted offender.

According to Montana court records, Brockway is a registered violent offender after he was convicted for a 2010 assault with a weapon. District Judge John Larson gave him a 10-year suspended sentence.

Prosecutors recommended his bail be set at $100,000. Court officials said Brockway’s attorney was working Tuesday to recommend conditions that might allow Brockway to be released without posting bond. He will be arraigned in Mineral County Justice Court Aug. 14, according to the sheriff’s office.

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:43:37am

lawhawk’s point (et al) time and again

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:44:24am

re: #36 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Coming up, 3PM EDT

Walmart employees are staging a walkout to protest gun sales

But wait:
Walmart Retaliates Against Worker Who Urged Employee Walkout Over Gun Sales

NM is closer to El Paso than most of Texas is, yet I’ve seen no mention of the fact that last month in NM, a background-check requirement took effect, and a week or two later, WalMart quit selling guns in NM.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:45:00am

re: #68 MsJ

Saw that yesterday. Today’s article notes he may not be released under his own recognizance as it was noted yesterday. He shouldn’t be. He’s a violent previously convicted offender.

Yeah got off way too easy.

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:45:17am

re: #63 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Just paged this, as a reaction to what Rep. Joaquin Castro has done today. For those of you not familiar, he posted the names of prominent Trump donors:

serious questions: would the reaction have been much different if he posted the link to the FEC website and said ‘look for yourself’?

the argument might be different. the reaction i think not so much.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:45:53am

re: #71 HappyWarrior

Yeah got off way too easy.

Not yet. But likely.

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:46:03am

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹🎃

They did a pretty good job about forgetting W.
They forgot all about Reagan’s massive corruption and Iran-Contra.
They forgot all about Nixon’s corruption.

They forget about all the times they exploded the debt. They forget about all the recessions and depressions they caused.

Why should the future be any different? Facts which contravene religious belief must be ignored (I will keep hammering that home about conservatism).

all true
so maybe the difference is this time we dont let ‘em

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:47:13am

re: #73 MsJ

Not yet. But likely.

I mean by being released into his own recognizance.

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:47:51am

re: #65 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Continuing:

They are not shocked. They have stuck with Trump not despite his racism, sexism, homophobia, mocking of the families of dead war heroes, vulgarity and corruption ..

BUT BECAUSE OF IT.

We can no longer allow ourselves the luxury of trying to understand these people. After this week, they have revealed themselves as capable of condoning anything.

you support a racist, you’re a racist

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:47:57am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

I mean by being released into his own recognizance.

I don’t think that happened yet.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:48:29am

re: #77 MsJ

I don’t think that happened yet.

Oh good.

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:52:29am

re: #70 wrenchwench

NM is closer to El Paso than most of Texas is, yet I’ve seen no mention of the fact that last month in NM, a background-check requirement took effect, and a week or two later, WalMart quit selling guns in NM.

my understanding of walmart is they want to be seen as apolitical as possible
since they tend to be in rural-ish areas, their clientele skews R
yes it’s changing as they make inroads in urban areas, but mostly it’s rural and so R
what they do, changes they make tend to be subtle and quiet

- clearly targeting walmarts and walmart customers is horrible for business
- still, they’re not gonna stop selling guns (yet)
- what they might do is bit by bit reduce the size of the gun department footprints, possibly stop stocking certain types of guns; that kind of thing

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Charles Johnson  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:54:45am
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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:56:01am

re: #79 DangerMan

my understanding of walmart is they want to be seen as apolitical as possible
since they tend to be in rural-ish areas, their clientele skews R
yes it’s changing as they make inroads in urban areas, but mostly it’s rural and so R
what they do, changes they make tend to be subtle and quiet

- clearly targeting walmarts and walmart customers is horrible for business
- still, they’re not gonna stop selling guns (yet)
- what they might do is bit by bit reduce the size of the gun department footprints, possibly stop stocking certain types of guns; that kind of thing

NMs WMs sell ammo.

NM goes from urban-ish to frontier-ish. Background check requirements did it. Too much paperwork and accountability.

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:56:10am

re: #80 Charles Johnson

A State Dept official tells me: This individual is employed by the Dept of State as a foreign affairs officer assigned to the Bureau of Energy Resources in Washington, DC.
The Dept of State cannot comment on personnel issues but is committed to providing an inclusive workplace.

‘white nationalism’ must be treated like a protected class but lgbtq cannot /s

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:57:27am

re: #81 wrenchwench

NMs WMs sell ammo.

NM goes from urban-ish to frontier-ish. Background check requirements did it. Too much paperwork and accountability.

exactly
when the model relies oh low margins and high volume, anything that gets in the way is toast

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:57:36am

re: #80 Charles Johnson

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Inclusiveness can be overdone. Discretion is required.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:59:16am

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Oh good.

I think I was wrong. USA today reported it differently, but CBS said this:

Brockway was arrested and later charged with an assault on a minor. At an initial court appearance on Monday, prosecutors recommended his bail be set at $100,000, but a judge ruled that he can be released on his own recognizance, CBS affiliate KPAX reports.
…
Brockway was convicted of a 2010 charge of assault with a weapon, the station reports. In that incident, Brockway pulled up to a parked vehicle, got out and pulled a gun on a family and stated he was going to kill them, according to KPAX. He was sentenced to 10 years with the Montana Department of Corrections, all of which were suspended.

This fucking guy is a walking threat. But this is America, apparently.

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:00:26pm

before the spam went into ‘delete forever’ i copied the subject:

Lose 97lbs. in just 2 weeks!!! 1OO% ✔️ Satisfaction Guaranteed

i’d be so thin i’d only have one side

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:00:41pm

re: #74 DangerMan

all true
so maybe the difference is this time we dont let ‘em

I think the public posting of these people - and I do hope that we’ve gotten their faces contorted into rictuses of hate at Trump’s Nuremberg-style rallies - will be one way to make things stick.

Identify these people. Name them. Shame them. Exile them from decent society.
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:03:12pm

I seem to remember right wing talking heads encouraging harassment and violence towards Obama supporters.

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:03:27pm

re: #87 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

I think the public posting of these people - and I do hope that we’ve gotten their faces contorted into rictuses of hate at Trump’s Nuremberg-style rallies - will be one way to make things stick.

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yup
and remember, the original tweet was aimed at republican lawmakers
that’s why i responded the way i did
they wont be able to rewrite their total silence and universal inaction to everything he did
they’ll have nothing to point to
especially those cowards who talked differently ‘off the record’ or ‘privately’, etc

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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:05:50pm

Welp, I managed to break the screen on my Lenovo desktop. Yea me.

Any ideas if it’s fixable and what it might cost?

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Dave In Austin  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:06:16pm

Joe’s taking it to the bank…..

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:07:58pm

re: #90 plansbandc

Welp, I managed to break the screen on my Lenovo desktop. Yeah me.

Any ideas if it’s fixable and what it might cost?

Just buy a new monitor. Drop the old one off at Best Buy if you have one.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:08:09pm

re: #48 NO SMOCKING GUN!

A lonely GOP voice for sanity.

He’s already being called out across the state by Republicans for being a RINO.

The Nebraska GOP demanded he resign from the party and join the Democrats since he’s such a liberal supporter.

The Latest: Republican faces backlash for bucking the party (Live updates, goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

The GOP is demanding he leave the party. He’s refusing to do so.

Nebraska Republican Party Executive Director Ryan Hamilton said Monday that state Sen. John McCollister has been telegraphing for years that he has little in common with the GOP voters in his Omaha district.

The statement came after McCollister blasted the party for not speaking out against President Donald Trump’s inflammatory comments about minorities.

McCollister has said he doesn’t intend to switch parties.

Hamilton says McCollister’s voting record on guns, taxes and abortion runs counter to what most conservatives believe. In May, McCollister spoke at an abortion-rights rally at the Nebraska Capitol.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:08:27pm

The mass shooting in Detroit on Tuesday you probably didn’t hear about

Four young men were shot at a beauty salon on Detroit’s west side Tuesday evening.

No press conference. No national media headlines. No outrage.

It’s the 254th mass shooting in the U.S. so far this year and the fourth in Michigan, according to the Gun Violence Archive, a nonprofit organization that compiles information on gun-related violence.

[…]

What constitutes a “mass shooting” varies. According to the Gun Violence Archive, a mass shooting is any incident in which four or more people are shot.

In a 2015 Congressional Research Service report, the FBI defined a mass shooting as “a multiple homicide incident in which four or more victims are murdered with firearms, within one event, and in one or more locations in close proximity.”

By those definitions, there were three mass shootings in Michigan so far this year….

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:10:08pm

re: #85 MsJ

I think I was wrong. USA today reported it differently, but CBS said this:

This fucking guy is a walking threat. But this is America, apparently.

Good thing he wasn’t selling loose cigs or anything dangerous like that.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:10:12pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

I seem to remember right wing talking heads encouraging harassment and violence towards Obama supporters.

Burnings in effigy, nooses, calling the Obamas apes, attacking their children, &c.

They’re still doing it.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:12:38pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

I seem to remember right wing talking heads encouraging harassment and violence towards Obama supporters.

The NYT published every name of EVERY donor (>=1$) to the Clinton Foundation. Zero outrage from the Nazi Right.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:14:24pm

re: #86 DangerMan

before the spam went into ‘delete forever’ i copied the subject:

i’d be so thin i’d only have one side

LOL. I’d weigh as much as a one year-old.

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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:14:26pm

re: #92 Belafon

It’s an all in one.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:14:47pm

re: #87 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Identify these people. Name them. Shame them. Exile them from decent society.

It’s a near certainty that even if they were named, they wouldn’t be ashamed. Most of them look retired anyhow. Can’t imagine living 6+ decades and having this much anger.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:14:47pm

*goosebumps*

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:15:23pm

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Burnings in effigy, nooses, calling the Obamas apes, attacking their children, &c.

They’re still doing it.

Yes, I’m talking about what they encouraged at Obama supporters.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:15:46pm

re: #97 Dr. Matt

The NYT published every name of EVERY donor (>=1$) to the Clinton Foundation. Zero outrage from the Nazi Right.

Exactly

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:15:51pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:16:22pm

From the NYTimes piece about how Trump’s supporters are eerily like ISIS:

“these deadly messages, which have had mixed success in traditional propaganda channels in all but the most dire historical moments, can spread like wildfire on social media.

He termed the message one of “temporal acceleration” — the promise that an adherent could speed up time toward some inevitable endpoint by committing violence. And the “apocalyptic narratives,” he found, exploit social media’s tendency to amplify whatever content is most extreme.

As with the Islamic State’s calls for mass murder, this worldview has resonated among young men, mostly loners, who might have previously expressed little ideological fervor or experienced much hardship. It offered them a way to belong and a cause to participate in.”

Angry white dumbshits get to feel like heroic warriors in a cause. Killing innocents who aren’t shooting back at you is seen as a way to hasten “the end-times” and is lauded.

It is pure nihilism.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:16:23pm

re: #97 Dr. Matt

The NYT published every name of EVERY donor (>=1$) to the Clinton Foundation. Zero outrage from the Nazi Right.

The FEC website publishes a searchable list of donors that meet a simple threshold. In 2008 there were six donations to Obama in our zipcode. Three of them were made at our dining room table.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:16:34pm

re: #101 teleskiguy

From the YouTube comments:

After all those years, they didn’t forget how to sound like Tool.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:16:44pm

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹🎃

They did a pretty good job about forgetting W.
They forgot all about Reagan’s massive corruption and Iran-Contra.
They forgot all about Nixon’s corruption.

They forget about all the times they exploded the debt. They forget about all the recessions and depressions they caused.

Why should the future be any different? Facts which contravene religious belief must be ignored (I will keep hammering that home about conservatism).

Really, the bigger the scandal, the deeper the repression

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:17:26pm

re: #99 plansbandc

It’s an all in one.

I suspect that’s going to be a lot tougher. Where did you buy it? You might be able to get it fixed, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s roughly the cost of a new one.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:17:46pm

re: #83 DangerMan

exactly
when the model relies oh low margins and high volume, anything that gets in the way is toast

And they’re not necessarily the cheapest place to buy things.

They just have a whole bunch of stuff under one roof, so it’s more convenient.

They haven’t killed our little businesses here because they are so far away.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:19:59pm

Just minutes ago….

He once again proved to everyone that he zero empathy for these tragedies.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:21:04pm

re: #111 Dr. Matt

Just minutes ago….

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He once again proved to everyone that he zero empathy for these strategies.

Your trial for crimes against humanity would get record ratings.

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:21:46pm
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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:22:06pm

re: #111 Dr. Matt

Just minutes ago….

He once again proved to everyone that he zero empathy for these tragedies.

Oh, they’ll be happy that after four years of Trump that the next administration will struggle to help those Trump has ruined, namely farmers.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:22:16pm

Elizabeth Warren has a plan for revitalising rural areas.

wonkette.com

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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:22:46pm

re: #109 Belafon

I’m afraid that’s probably true, and since we have no $$, I’m screwed.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:25:09pm
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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:26:12pm

re: #117 Dread Pirate

Pass the popcorn
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:26:17pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:27:44pm

re: #116 plansbandc

I’m afraid that’s probably true, and since we have no $$, I’m screwed.

Does it have an external VGA port? If so, pick up a used monitor at a thrift store. The last one I got only cost me $10.00.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:28:37pm

re: #120 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Does it have and external VGA port? If so, pick up a used monitor at a thrift store. The last one I got only cost me $10.00.

I second this.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:30:17pm

re: #60 DangerMan

wont work
their historical silence and inaction will be incontrovertible

It will work with a lot of people, like the way they dropped Dubya down the memory hole. But I have doubts that the GOP can find its way back from becoming fascist. The base will want it’s fascism pure and unsullied, and someone will take up Trump’s mantle to deliver it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:31:54pm

re: #119 GlutenFreeJesus

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Oh fuck you very much Ronna. You say nothing when Trump literally encourages violence. Choke on your crocodile tears.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:36:36pm

I don’t remember Republicans getting upset over Gamergate posting the addresses and personal phone numbers of Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu, and other feminists so they can get threatened and harrassed. Oh wait, they defended the bullying by calling it “constructive criticism.”

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Dave In Austin  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:36:52pm
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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:37:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:39:51pm

re: #124 DodgerFan1988

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I don’t remember Republicans getting upset over Gamergate posting the addresses and personal phone numbers of Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu, and other feminists so they can get threatened and harrassed. Oh wait, they defended the bullying by calling it “constructive criticism.”

You’re a fraudulent piece of shit. You said nothing when Trump literally said “we don’t hurt people anymore and that’s bad” but yeah that damn Castro talking about public knowledge and guess what, Trump donors deserve all the harassment they get.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:39:53pm

A letter to the editor of my local newspaper, the Vail Daily:

I have an idea that should save government offices, businesses, and many private residences a substantial amount of time.

Typically, we lower the flag to half-mast every time there’s a mass shooting and raise it back to full height approximately two weeks later. However, since that’s about the length of time that usually transpires before another mass shooting, we find ourselves going back and lowering the flag once more. It seems to me like a waste of time, especially after this weekend’s incidents.

Since we have a Congress filled with spineless cowards who refuse to seriously address the issues of gun violence and sensible gun control, I suggest we simply leave the flags at half-mast permanently.

Tim Lawrence

Gypsum

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:41:24pm

re: #126 lawhawk

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He drove 10 hours to kill people. That’s 1st degree murder and you also supported Trump repealing Obama’s ban on mentally ill people buying guns.

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:43:35pm

Mission Accomplished?!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:44:00pm

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🎃

LOL. I’d weigh as much as a one year-old.

I lost 110 lbs after getting bariatric surgey. Took a little longer than 2 weeks though. I’m pretty sure that unless you have a 95 lb tumour surgically removed, losing that much weight that fast would kill most people.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:45:17pm

re: #130 lawhawk

Mission Accomplished?!

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He’s going to leave a huge mess for the next President and then he and his proxies will criticize everything that man or woman does.

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mmmirele  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:45:41pm

re: #106 Decatur Deb

The FEC website publishes a searchable list of donors that meet a simple threshold. In 2008 there were six donations to Obama in our zipcode. Three of them were made at our dining room table.

I was the top donor (maxed out) for Hillary Clinton in 2016 in my zip code. No one else came close. So far I haven’t donated enough to any campaign to cross minimum reporting thresholds.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:47:26pm

Had brunch with a very conservative elderly friend who describes himself as a racist while claiming he was liberal in his youth (but I’m always skeptical about anything he asserts — it may be more to get a rise out of me); he’s an investor with substantial assets and his claim is that the rest of the world is having financial ailments but that the US has the strongest economy of the developed world at this time. He also mentioned that an inverted yield curve has always preceded a recession — that perhaps the economic situation is different now but then, as he agrees, they always claim that. So we may be in for a rocky year.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:47:37pm

re: #124 DodgerFan1988

I don’t remember Republicans getting upset over Gamergate posting the addresses and personal phone numbers of Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu, and other feminists so they can get threatened and harrassed. Oh wait, they defended the bullying by calling it “constructive criticism.”

Us going high didn’t make people like you act better, Kevin, so we abandoned that tactic. We’re not stupid. After we realized people like you value power more than people, it was time to give up attempting to convert you.

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danarchy  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:49:44pm

re: #120 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Does it have an external VGA port? If so, pick up a used monitor at a thrift store. The last one I got only cost me $10.00.

That is probably the cheapest and easiest fix. The Lenovo all in ones usually have at least and HDMI or DP out to add an additional monitor.

Is it also a touchscreen? It is possible that only the front glass is cracked and not the digitizer or anything actually expensive. Much like a cell phone repair you could get a glass only repair kit and with a heat gun, and a little time it could be pretty inexpensive to fix. Depends how deep the damage actually goes. If you get impatient you could also destroy the hell out of it in the process.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:49:56pm

Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:50:03pm

Canadian highway murders: Police say 2 bodies found, believed to be fugitives.

Two bodies found in Canada are believed to be of the two teen suspects wanted for multiple murders, officials said at a press conference on Wednesday.

“At 10 am. this morning, Manitoba RCMP officers located the bodies of two males, believed to be the BC suspects, near the shoreline of the Nelson River (approx 8km from the burnt vehicle),” the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said in a statement on Twitter.

“The search is over,” officials said.

Kam McLeod, 19, and Bryer Schmegelsky, 18, were wanted on Canada-wide warrants for second-degree murder in connection with the death of a man whose body was found along a highway near Dease Lake in northwest Canada on July 19. (snip)

The teens, both Canadian, were also considered suspects in the shooting deaths of 24-year-old American Chynna Deese and her 23-year-old Australian boyfriend, Lucas Fowler, whose bodies were discovered July 15 along a highway near Liard Hot Springs, also in northwest Canada.

They suspects apparently had white supremacist/Nazi leanings according to the video accompanying the article.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:50:30pm

re: #135 Belafon

Us going high didn’t make people like you act better, Kevin, so we abandoned that tactic. We’re not stupid. After we realized people like you value power more than people, it was time to give up attempting to convert you.

I’m sick of their passive aggressive bullshit.

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sagehen  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:50:49pm

re: #126 lawhawk

Mental illness isn’t the problem.
Easy availability of guns is. TX and OH are open carry states, and all those guns didn’t stop shootings.

Open carry states probably increased the death toll… in a state without open carry, the guy with the gun would have attracted attention much quicker, and maybe the cops could have responded a minute or two or three sooner.

Which in the case of Ohio, would mean he wouldn’t have been able to shoot ANYBODY; the cops were close enough to respond within less than a minute of hearing the first shot. If it weren’t an open carry state, they maybe would have responded a block or two away before he got into the club at all.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:55:57pm

Racist Grandpa is tweeting again.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:56:55pm

A quick poll here. How many MAGA hats have you seen people wearing since ‘16??

For me, maybe 3.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:57:53pm

re: #141 teleskiguy

Racist Grandpa is tweeting again.

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Whine and complain, whine and complain. There is literally nothing else he does. He watches Fox and gets all worked up and then whines and complains.

I wish he would stroke out already before he ruins everything that is still good in the entire world.

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mmmirele  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:58:38pm

re: #131 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I lost 110 lbs after getting bariatric surgey. Took a little longer than 2 weeks though. I’m pretty sure that unless you have a 95 lb tumour surgically removed, losing that much weight that fast would kill most people.

One of my coworkers is in the hospital. She texted me this morning and said she’s lost 55 pounds in the last 2 weeks. I’m sure much of that is the swelling for which she was initially admitted (and for which she ultimately needed a dialysis catheter placed) but some of it is obviously not.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:59:15pm

re: #141 teleskiguy

Racist Grandpa is tweeting again.

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He’s really interested in unity I see.

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:59:26pm

re: #124 DodgerFan1988

Targeting and harassing Americans because of their political beliefs is shameful and dangerous

do i gotta post examples of what trump does EVERY SINGLE DAY ON TWITTER?

- ‘batlimore’
- every democrat running for president
- ‘the squad’
- Khizr and Ghazala Khan

it would be so easy to make a list of hundreds if not thousands

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:59:42pm

O_o

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 12:59:53pm

re: #143 MsJ

Whine and complain, whine and complain. There is literally nothing else he does. He watches Fox and gets all worked up and then whines and complains.

I wish he would stroke out already before he ruins everything that is still good in the entire world.

Fox loves every minute of it. It’s a sick partnership.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:00:47pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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You literally offered to pay lawyer fees to your red hats who roughed up counter protesters. Fuck off.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:00:50pm

I mean, I thought George W. Bush was terrible, even a war criminal, and if there was a hell for him to burn for all eternity I would wish that for his soul. But the visceral hatred I have for Fuckface Von Clownstick…

I like to say I’m finding a balance between keeping track of all this madness and living my life. That balance grows more precarious by the day, it seems. The rapid fire bulkshit cannon never ceases.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:01:24pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

I mean, I thought George W. Bush was terrible, even a war criminal, and if there was a hell for him to burn for all eternity I would wish that for his soul. But the visceral hatred I have for Fuckface Von Clownstick…

I like to say I’m finding a balance between keeping track of all this madness and living my life. That balance grows more precarious by the day, it seems. The rapid fire bulkshit cannon never ceases.

I hear ya.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:01:37pm

Because they’d be fired by their corporate masters if they didn’t, Dan. Keep lying to the conservarati.

No patients, though. Did they refuse him?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:02:20pm

re: #142 Dave In Austin

A quick poll here. How many MAGA hats have you seen people wearing since ‘16??

For me, maybe 3.

I’ve only seen one. The twice-removed former mayor of my town has one, but she doesn’t wear it often.

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:02:24pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

[ “reckless and irresponsible.” ]

That’s the IMAX projection he specializes in, now on steroids!

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:03:12pm

re: #142 Dave In Austin

A quick poll here. How many MAGA hats have you seen people wearing since ‘16??

For me, maybe 3.

Me too, maybe three. First time I saw one out in the wild was at the Hoover Dam, of all places. And I saw a couple of them on the 16th Street Mall in Denver over Memorial Day weekend.

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:04:05pm

re: #145 HappyWarrior

He’s really interested in unity I see.

that speech was bullshit before he even read spoke it

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:04:50pm

re: #142 Dave In Austin

A quick poll here. How many MAGA hats have you seen people wearing since ‘16??

For me, maybe 3.

Plenty at the gym, coming out of churches…

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:06:35pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump campaign says Rep. Joaquin Castro posting publicly available information about the names and employers of some San Antonio-area donors to President Trump’s re-election was “reckless and irresponsible.”

what’s it called when the government via the FEC does it?

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:06:43pm

OANN are popping champagne corks.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:06:51pm

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Because they’d be fired by their corporate masters if they didn’t, Dan. Keep lying to the conservarati.

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No patients, though. Did they refuse him?

You bitched about everything Obama did, Dan and pushed conspiracies.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:06:54pm

LOLWUT

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:07:20pm

re: #159 teleskiguy

OANN are popping champagne corks.

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Oh ffs.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:08:09pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

Hold out until August 30, then we can both lose ourselves in the new Tool album for a few weeks.

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:08:11pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

I mean, I thought George W. Bush was terrible, even a war criminal, and if there was a hell for him to burn for all eternity I would wish that for his soul. But the visceral hatred I have for Fuckface Von Clownstick…

I like to say I’m finding a balance between keeping track of all this madness and living my life. That balance grows more precarious by the day, it seems. The rapid fire bulkshit cannon never ceases.

this here is a daily struggle for lots of us

some days are better than others. meditation and mindfulness only go so far

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:08:42pm

re: #161 The Pie Overlord!

LOLWUT

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Can his daughter just spill apple juice on his cpu so he can shut up for once. He’s such a self righteous bore hypocrite.

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:12:05pm

re: #164 DangerMan

this here is a daily struggle for lots of us

some days are better than others. meditation and mindfulness only go so far

At least when you run, you can know EXACTLY how far it goes!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:12:11pm

re: #164 DangerMan

this here is a daily struggle for lots of us

some days are better than others. meditation and mindfulness only go so far

It’s tough. I’m glad I have you guys. I mean that.

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retired cynic  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:16:07pm

re: #142 Dave In Austin

A quick poll here. How many MAGA hats have you seen people wearing since ‘16??

For me, maybe 3.

Me: zero.

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Sea Mexican  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:16:47pm

From last thread…

re: #265 Belafon

Will it be corrupt or not corrupt? We’ll know soon.

Well, the top contenders aren’t easy.

- Pedro Pierluisi, who would be a decent candidate and governor other times (like 5 months ago), he’s being questioned about his ties to the ever unpopular PROMESA fiscal board, as well as his past as Rosselló’s father’s Justice Department Secretary.

- Wanda Vazquez, current Justice Department Secretary, who’s next in line, has even more troubling allegations than her former boss, including that she asked someone high in the cabinet to not send her evidence so she wouldn’t have to investigate.

- Eligio Hernandez, next in line after Vazquez, has the advantage of being the unknown. He comes after Julia Keleher, which was his predecesor.

- Thomas Rivera-Shatz, Senate speaker, how’s trying to rise in power without being elected, is the closest we will get to a banana republic dictator.

- Jeniffer Gonzalez, former House speaker and current non-voting representative to Congress, might not be the worst in this game of thrones, but that’s not a huge hurdle to pass. She will turn into a Rosselló part deux.

And the PR Supreme Court just ruled that Pierluisi couldn’t swear in as governor. So the field clears up again.

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retired cynic  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:17:54pm

re: #144 mmmirele

One of my coworkers is in the hospital. She texted me this morning and said she’s lost 55 pounds in the last 2 weeks. I’m sure much of that is the swelling for which she was initially admitted (and for which she ultimately needed a dialysis catheter placed) but some of it is obviously not.

I have lost 30 pounds in the last 2 weeks: water from the sepsis. I’d put it on in about a month or less…

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:18:14pm

re: #169 Sea Mexican

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:19:58pm

re: #159 teleskiguy

OANN are popping champagne corks.

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That is on TV in Lansing, MI (the state capitol) and it is fucking OUT THERE. We were in a hotel and were channel surfing and it came on and both of us sat there staring at the TV asking each other WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK IS THIS? It is truly out there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:21:31pm

re: #172 MsJ

That is on TV in Lansing, MI (the state capitol) and it is fucking OUT THERE. We were in a hotel and were channel surfing and it came on and both of us sat there staring at the TV asking each other WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK IS THIS? It is truly out there.

Sarah Palin wasn’t weird enough for them when she did her guest/test

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:24:16pm

re: #166 wrenchwench

At least when you run, you can know EXACTLY how far it goes!

sometimes not far enough sometimes toooooo damn far….

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:24:24pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

It’s tough. I’m glad I have you guys. I mean that.

ditto

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:24:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:25:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:25:49pm

re: #160 HappyWarrior

You bitched about everything Obama did, Dan and pushed conspiracies.

Awfully white looking crowd of hospital workers in those photos too. No minorities in the hospital staff, or did Trump’s team vet them out of the photos?

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:31:45pm

re: #174 DangerMan

sometimes not far enough sometimes toooooo damn far….

Your choice; they’re all just right!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:34:16pm

re: #178 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Awfully white looking crowd of hospital workers in those photos too. No minorities in the hospital staff, or did Trump’s team vet them out of the photos?

When asked if they wanted to meet him, they all said: “Fuck that!”

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Sea Mexican  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:34:40pm

re: #171 lawhawk

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In the short term, it looks like Vazquez will be the governor. The question is, how long? It’s hard to beat the current record of 5 days.

How are Puerto Ricans taking it?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:35:57pm

re: #132 HappyWarrior

He’s going to leave a huge mess for the next President and then he and his proxies will criticize everything that man or woman does.

That’s why I want the next Dem who is president to be able to politely tell people to STFU. It’s going to be the most important skill. I loved Obama, but he was too naive. Clean up is ugly.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:36:15pm

re: #178 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Awfully white looking crowd of hospital workers in those photos too. No minorities in the hospital staff, or did Trump’s team vet them out of the photos?

Dayton is 43% black.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:36:39pm

re: #175 DangerMan

ditto

Same. Mr. Johnson provides a sane place on the Internet for us liberal hostages in Trumplandia.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:36:49pm

re: #182 I Would Prefer Not To

That’s why I want the next Dem who is president to be able to politely tell people to STFU. It’s going to be the most important skill. I loved Obama, but hew was too naive. Clean up is ugly.

Harris has a tough edge I like.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:37:22pm
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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:39:48pm

Another clash on the Line of Control between Pakistan and India - heavy fire reported.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:39:53pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Harris has a tough edge I like.

Beto too. He’s had some great sound bites the past few days.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:41:00pm

re: #187 lawhawk

Another clash on the Line of Control between Pakistan and India - heavy fire reported.

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Have no fear, your favorite President is *checks notes* belittling Joe Biden.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:41:42pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:41:59pm

The worst people.

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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:42:02pm

re: #136 danarchy

The glass itself isn’t cracked, but outside frame is. Lower left. It’s a touchscreen, but the touchscreen stopped working about a month into owning it. Got mashed pixels on the right and horizontal lines on the bottom third of my screen. Guessing it’s touchscreen sensor/s that is/are mashed and fubar.

From what I understand, attaching a screen is problematic because the factory setting is for one screen. Apparently the usual way of hooking a second screen up to it doesn’t work.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:42:20pm

re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg

Beto too. He’s had some great sound bites the past few days.

Harris-Beto or Castro is my hope at this point. I like Beto. He actually does tell it as it is and I think he would be a great foil for Mother’s husband.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:42:45pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

The worst people.

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You’re a Stalinist, Dan.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:43:28pm

re: #186 teleskiguy

I called that.

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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:43:47pm

Sadly, I’m going to have to get used to this display. Just hope it continues to at least work like this.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:43:59pm

re: #192 plansbandc

The glass itself isn’t cracked, but outside frame is. Lower left. It’s a touchscreen, but the touchscreen stopped working about a month into owning it. Got mashed pixels on the right and horizontal lines on the bottom third of my screen. Guessing it’s touchscreen sensor/s that is/are mashed and fubar.

From what I understand, attaching a screen is problematic because the factory setting is for one screen. Apparently the usual way of hooking a second screen up to it doesn’t work.

I did notice with some googling that you can buy a replacement outer frame. If you’ve had it for such a short time, you might be under a warrenty depending on where you bought it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:44:15pm

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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I called that.

He would be the last person I’d want to see after the shooter himself .

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:44:55pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

The worst people.

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ARRRGH.

This is NOT supposed to be about the President getting treated like a ROCK STAR!

This is supposed to be a somber time when the President is consoling victims of a mass shooting.

Jesus Christ.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:45:53pm

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

ARRRGH.

This is NOT supposed to be about the President getting treated like a ROCK STAR!

This is supposed to be a somber time when the President is consoling victims of a mass shooting.

Jesus Christ.

See also Parkland, where a similar photo op was set up.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:46:00pm

Trump by his own admission isn’t emotion or comfort. So why is he there? Also him being there is a mess for the hospital and anyone hoping to visit family there.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:46:38pm

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

ARRRGH.

This is NOT supposed to be about the President getting treated like a ROCK STAR!

This is supposed to be a somber time when the President is consoling victims of a mass shooting.

Jesus Christ.

I’m telling you these guys would fit in perfectly in the USSR.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:46:48pm

This fucking guy. Stone cold sociopath.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:48:23pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:48:36pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

Trump by his own admission isn’t emotion or comfort. So why is he there? Also him being there is a mess for the hospital and anyone hoping to visit family there.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:49:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:49:21pm

re: #204 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Shameless fucker.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:49:58pm

re: #206 teleskiguy

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I could go for some whisky.

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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:50:01pm

re: #197 Belafon

Oh that’s another story. We had to use up all our warranty on the lemon we bought before this one. They gave us a refund that we used to buy this one, but it killed the warranty. Shit out of luck we are. Have learned though, never to buy a computer at Best Buy again.

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:50:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:52:04pm

re: #210 jaunte

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:52:07pm

The Dayton photo ops are nuts on any number of levels.

Majority of victims were black, and yet no one in the photos from the WH feed appear to be POC, including hospital staffers, victims, families, or law enforcement. That’s weird. His white supremacist/racist advisers cherry pick the photos/victims/participants, and keep it easy for Trump.

The staffers have to stage manage this to avoid having Trump get raked over coals for inciting terrorism across the nation. El Paso isn’t going to be any easier.

Trump smiling cheerfully, is incongruous with the fact that these people he’s meeting are victims of a mass shooting. It’s not a joyous occasion, but one filled with grief, loss, PTSD, and all kinds of emotions. Again, Trump is a sociopath, so this is expected behavior.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:52:54pm

re: #208 HappyWarrior

I could go for some whisky.

I could go for some paint thinner.

Giphy

Giphy

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:53:27pm
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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:53:42pm

re: #209 plansbandc

Oh that’s another story. We had to use up all our warranty on the lemon we bought before this one. They gave us a refund that we used to buy this one, but it killed the warranty. Shit out of luck we are. Have learned though, never to buy a computer at Best Buy again.

Which is just weird because I’ve never had problems with them.

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ckkatz  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:54:53pm

re: #138 lawhawk

Canadian highway murders: Police say 2 bodies found, believed to be fugitives.

They suspects apparently had white supremacist/Nazi leanings according to the video accompanying the article.

Whenever I see an article on these meaningless murders, I think of the Ian and Sylvia song. I find the contrast between the music and the storyline interesting.

Four Rode By

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:55:05pm

Trump’s in for a rude awakening in El Paso. It’s not going to be nearly as friendly as in Dayton, which was stage managed to keep it white.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:56:19pm
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bratwurst  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:56:58pm

Friends, I am going to confess that I do not have the answer as to how Democrats should go about defeating Trump decisively next year.

Having said that, I am not at all interested in suggestions from the likes of George Will or David Frum.

I will listen to those who tried and failed to defeat Trump from within the big right wing tent AFTER I hear from pretty much everyone else on earth.

EDIT: I almost forgot to include an example I paged of Frum’s BRILLIANT way to defeat Trump almost exactly 4 years ago. This guy should stick to his renowned commentary on women’s tennis and leave politics to people who are smarter than he is.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 1:59:55pm

re: #217 lawhawk

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Trump’s in for a rude awakening in El Paso. It’s not going to be nearly as friendly as in Dayton, which was stage managed to keep it white.

Good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:00:19pm

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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I called that.

Every sane person called that

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:00:32pm

re: #219 bratwurst

Friends, I am going to confess that I do not have the answer as to how Democrats should go about defeating Trump decisively next year.

Having said that, I am not at all interested in suggestions from the likes of George Will or David Frum.

I will listen to those who tried and failed to defeat Trump from within the big right wing tent AFTER I hear from pretty much everyone else on earth.

Absolutely.

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danarchy  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:00:41pm

re: #192 plansbandc

The glass itself isn’t cracked, but outside frame is. Lower left. It’s a touchscreen, but the touchscreen stopped working about a month into owning it. Got mashed pixels on the right and horizontal lines on the bottom third of my screen. Guessing it’s touchscreen sensor/s that is/are mashed and fubar.

From what I understand, attaching a screen is problematic because the factory setting is for one screen. Apparently the usual way of hooking a second screen up to it doesn’t work.

What model? I have whole offices of Lenovo AIOs with second monitors attached.

Also, yeah the actual display is damaged, that’s a more expensive replacement if you can even find one.

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:01:23pm

re: #217 lawhawk

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Trump’s in for a rude awakening in El Paso. It’s not going to be nearly as friendly as in Dayton, which was stage managed to keep it white.

…And it’s late in the day, sundowner time.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:04:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:05:29pm

re: #203 teleskiguy

This fucking guy. Stone cold sociopath.

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notice the only two people NOT smiling

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:06:20pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

The worst people.

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What exactly did Brown and Whaley say happened?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:06:53pm

re: #219 bratwurst

Friends, I am going to confess that I do not have the answer as to how Democrats should go about defeating Trump decisively next year….

It’s possible that someone knows what they’re doing:

‘Warren has built a monster’: Inside the Democrats’ battle for Nevada
politico.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:10:22pm

This will go over great. Hopefully another real-time impeachment will be happening.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:10:55pm

If it were Obama conservatives would be outside the White House right now with pitchforks and torches.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:13:29pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:13:39pm

re: #230 teleskiguy

If it were Obama conservatives would be outside the White House right now with pitchforks and torches.

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His thumbs are so misshapen.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:14:03pm

re: #230 teleskiguy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:14:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:16:12pm

re: #230 teleskiguy

If it were Obama conservatives would be outside the White House right now with pitchforks and torches.

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Obama wasn’t even able to address kids going back to school.

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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:17:01pm

re: #223 danarchy

It’s a 520s 23IKU.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:21:30pm
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Scout  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:28:17pm

re: #133 mmmirele

I was the top donor (maxed out) for Hillary Clinton in 2016 in my zip code. No one else came close. So far I haven’t donated enough to any campaign to cross minimum reporting thresholds.

How do you check that? I’m curious to see if they have anything for my postal code (which is outside the U.S.)

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Kilroy was here  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:30:06pm

...

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:31:23pm

re: #183 HappyWarrior

Dayton is 43% black.

I heard an NPR story a couple of years ago about how a plan to actively recruit immigrants to the city played an important role in correcting Dayton’s economic trajectory (though I know this wasn’t a minority or immigrant-aimed attack, it’s still worth considering as part of the larger debates).

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gocart mozart  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:32:07pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:32:46pm

re: #237 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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And I’ll bet if never even occurred to them to check for change.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:35:19pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

Thanks for the propaganda update, Sparky.

I would tweet that to him but I have a twitter stand-in-the-corner timeout.

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Citizen K  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:36:38pm

Washington (CNN)White House officials rebuffed efforts by their colleagues at the Department of Homeland Security for more than a year to make combating domestic terror threats, such as those from white supremacists, a greater priority as specifically spelled out in the National Counterterrorism Strategy, current and former senior administration officials as well as other sources close to the Trump administration tell CNN.
“Homeland Security officials battled the White House for more than a year to get them to focus more on domestic terrorism,” one senior source close to the Trump administration tells CNN. “The White House wanted to focus only on the jihadist threat which, while serious, ignored the reality that racial supremacist violence was rising fast here at home. They had major ideological blinders on.”
The National Counterterrorism Strategy, issued last fall, states that “Radical Islamist terrorists remain the primary transnational terrorist threat to the United States and its vital national interests,” which few experts dispute. What seems glaring to these officials is the minimizing of the threat of domestic terrorism, which they say was on their radar as a growing problem.
“Ultimately the White House just added one paragraph about domestic terrorism as a throw-away line,” a senior source involved in the discussion told CNN. That paragraph mentions “other forms of violent extremism, such as racially motivated extremism, animal rights extremism, environmental extremism, sovereign citizen extremism, and militia extremism.” It made no mention of white supremacists. (A separate paragraph in the report mentions investigating domestic terrorists with connections to overseas terrorists, but that does not seem to be a reference to white supremacists.)

Quelle surprise.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:39:18pm

re: #245 Citizen K

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Quelle surprise.

He’s complicit.

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danarchy  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:39:39pm

re: #236 plansbandc

It’s a 520s 23IKU.

According to the specs it has an HDMI port that is a combo in-out port so you ought to be able to hook up a monitor to it.

lenovo.com

If all else fails get a USB to VGA adapter. You can get one from amazon for under $10. Pair that with with a refurb monitor you can probably find for $25 and at least you will have a working machine. kind of sucks and defeats the purpose of the all in one, but it is better than trying to work on 2/3s of a screen.

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Cheechako  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:40:25pm

re: #209 plansbandc

Oh that’s another story. We had to use up all our warranty on the lemon we bought before this one. They gave us a refund that we used to buy this one, but it killed the warranty. Shit out of luck we are. Have learned though, never to buy a computer at Best Buy again.

I recommend buying electronics at Costco. They double the manufactures one year warranty on any electronics they sell.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:46:16pm

re: #245 Citizen K

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Quelle surprise.

Why waste time doing jihad in America when Americans will do it for you?

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:47:51pm
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MsJ  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:50:54pm

I so love this man.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:51:31pm

re: #239 Scout

How do you check that? I’m curious to see if they have anything for my postal code (which is outside the U.S.)

Dunno, but I remember you donated to Doug Jones. I’m on his volunteer call list again, just in case God is good enough to let Roy Moore win the GOP primary.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:52:03pm

re: #251 MsJ

I so love this man.

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Absolutely. My Nana had dementia. The kindness of strangers.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:52:52pm

re: #251 MsJ

I so love this man.

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Me too!! 💙

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:52:53pm
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sagehen  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:54:45pm

re: #206 teleskiguy

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We don’t have Scotch Whiskey, but your American cousins used basically the same recipe to make Bourbon (substituting corn for rye). Also, we have tequila.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:55:14pm

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Absolutely. My Nana had dementia. The kindness of strangers.

I was hired to cut the lawn of a woman with dementia (her daughter’s family lived around the corner, but no kids were home in the summer; ETA: when I was in middle school). She was so thankful and sweet as she paid me 25 cents, which must have been the going rate when she was young. I did it about four times for 25 cents until the daughter asked me if I was being paid and how much—she made it right, of course.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:55:52pm

re: #255 Barefoot Grin

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I guess because they didn’t tongue bath your favorite President with praise.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:56:26pm

I know…you’re shocked.

The latter assertion about fathers isn’t uncommon. One supposed statistic often circulated after a mass shooting is that 26 out of the 27 deadliest mass shooters in the U.S. came from fatherless homes.
…
The number is most often shared via a link to an article on Real Clear Politics. That article, however, is simply a blurb linking to a post on Patheos, which in turn cites heavily from an opinion piece by Suzanne Venker that was published on Fox News in February 2018. If we follow the trail a bit further, we arrive at a 2015 article in The Federalist about the impact fatherless homes may have on young men (and more specifically mass shooters).

However, that article did not state that “26 out of the 27 deadliest mass shooters came from fatherless homes.” Instead, that article claimed that seven of the deadliest mass shootings were perpetrated by males under the age of 30, and out of that seven, only one was raised by his biological father

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:57:09pm

re: #257 Barefoot Grin

I was hired to cut the lawn of a woman with dementia (her daughter’s family lived around the corner, but no kids were home in the summer). She was so thankful and sweet as she paid me 25 cents, which must have been the going rate when she was young. I did it about four times for 25 cents until the daughter asked me if I was being paid and how much—she made it right, of course.

You’re a good soul.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:58:05pm

Oh hey! My Republican sheriff has been indicted by a grand jury for official misconduct.

My county sheriff, folks.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:58:11pm

re: #259 MsJ

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I know…you’re shocked.

Right wingers are the ultimate pushers of fake news.

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Skip Intro  Aug 7, 2019 • 2:58:38pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

I ten years he’ll be dating her.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:00:52pm

re: #263 Skip Intro

I ten years he’ll be dating her.

God that’s probably the creepiest thing he’s ever said and this is the guy who wondered about his newborn daughter’s future breasts.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:01:43pm

A useful graphic that popped up somewhere. Serious egg on mah face if it was here.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:05:21pm

re: #264 HappyWarrior

God that’s probably the creepiest thing he’s ever said and this is the guy who wondered about his newborn daughter’s future breasts.

Considering the amount of plastic surgery that everyone in that family seems to go through, he knew they would be made to order. Damn, I feel very dirty after typing that.

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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:06:12pm

re: #247 danarchy

Thank you for the assist! Will give it a shot.

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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:09:00pm

re: #248 Cheechako

Planning to buy an iPad there when mine dies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:13:06pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:15:37pm

re: #264 HappyWarrior

It is, but that photo is right up there as a stomach turner.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:16:30pm
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jaunte  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:16:50pm
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KGxvi  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:17:17pm

Hmmmm…

Matthew Q. Gebert

Anyone want to bet that he’s also the infamous Q of Qanon?

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Skip Intro  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:17:45pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

Make that Donald Trump and the entire Republican Party Beto.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:20:13pm

re: #273 KGxvi

Hmmmm…

Anyone want to bet that he’s also the infamous Q of Qanon?

Might be in the loop, but it’s hard to imagine the people behind Q keeping their shit together 9-to-5.

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:20:47pm

re: #273 KGxvi

Hmmmm…

Anyone want to bet that he’s also the infamous Q of Qanon?

Way ahead of you… :)

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:21:58pm
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KGxvi  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:22:00pm

re: #276 makeitstop

Way ahead of you… :)

that’s what I get for just searching for Qanon in the comments…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:22:23pm

re: #275 Decatur Deb

Might be in the loop, but it’s hard to imagine the people behind Q keeping their shit together 9-to-5.

Crazy comes in all shapes and flavors. Sometimes they’re able to wear a mask, for a while.

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:22:30pm

I’m sure no owners, management, or staffing contractors were arrested.

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Skip Intro  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:28:33pm

re: #280 jaunte

They never are.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:29:49pm

re: #280 jaunte

I’m sure no owners, management, or staffing contractors were arrested.

Let me answer that: Koch Foods.
usatoday.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:29:55pm

re: #272 jaunte

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steve_davis  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:30:38pm

re: #6 Joe Bacon 🌹

I passed the FSOE, got to the second level but wasn’t hired. Now I’m glad I wasn’t hired by them…

yeah, i got to the interview stage where they apparently run simulations to see how you’ll do dealing with various dignitaries who come in wanting to see somebody important. In some ways, I wish I’d pursued it, just because my career probably would have been a little more rewarding than a lifetime of adjuncting, but I just wasn’t ready for the idea of spending 3 years at a time in a random embassy in country somewhere.

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TedStriker  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:32:31pm

re: #245 Citizen K

Quelle surprise.

re: #246 HappyWarrior

He’s complicit.

Trump thinks he’s using them to get and stay in office, but the white supremacists get much more out of having the POTUS defend and court them, short of him actually going on primetime TV and saying the 14 Words.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:32:31pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:32:57pm

re: #282 Decatur Deb

Edit: The article says it’s not those Kochs.

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gocart mozart  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:33:46pm
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KGxvi  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:34:04pm

re: #280 jaunte

I’m sure no owners, management, or staffing contractors were arrested.

The way NAFTA should have been renegotiated is to create a free movement zone between member nations. It’d never happen because the white supremacists would scream bloody murder over open borders… but if it can work in the EU and it can work within the Caribbean zone, it could work among the three members of NAFTA.

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:34:10pm
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KGxvi  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:35:38pm

re: #290 jaunte

85 minutes in a hospital for an alleged germaphobe is actually fairly impressive.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:36:13pm

re: #289 KGxvi

The way NAFTA should have been renegotiated is to create a free movement zone between member nations. It’d never happen because the white supremacists would scream bloody murder over open borders… but if it can work in the EU and it can work within the Caribbean zone, it could work among the three members of NAFTA.

And it worked against the white supremacists, because allowing movement between the US and Mexico would have meant workers’ families could have stayed in Mexico, reducing the number of children of Mexican parents born in the US.

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:37:14pm

re: #289 KGxvi

The way NAFTA should have been renegotiated is to create a free movement zone between member nations. It’d never happen because the white supremacists would scream bloody murder over open borders… but if it can work in the EU and it can work within the Caribbean zone, it could work among the three members of NAFTA.

Can I push it? Whole hemisphere. It’s a start.

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:37:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:37:35pm
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steve_davis  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:38:26pm

re: #24 lawhawk

And to think that wonky Paul Ryan claims that he’s a fan. It’s as though he never listened or understood the lyrics in the slightest.

presumably he thinks rage against the machine has something to do with libertarianism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:38:51pm

heh

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KGxvi  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:39:59pm

re: #293 wrenchwench

Can I push it? Whole hemisphere. It’s a start.

My libertarian streak says “whole world” but yeah, I’d say start with the NAFTA nations, and then expand it south. I’m a big believer in free trade and free movement of people, especially if we can use it to raise living standards and conditions around the world.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:40:01pm
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jaunte  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:40:24pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:41:52pm

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:42:05pm
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TedStriker  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:42:19pm

re: #288 gocart mozart

“A flushed, sweaty Ross Douthat, pupils dilated alarmingly, horny for group action, in a characteristically roundabout way inviting the sexy under-35 polyamorists out there to identify themselves and/or leap into his DMs.”

Someone hit the Internet Autodestruct button. Please.

— Feminazgûl (@jkyles10) August 7, 2019

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:42:52pm

re: #298 KGxvi

My libertarian streak says “whole world” but yeah, I’d say start with the NAFTA nations, and then expand it south. I’m a big believer in free trade and free movement of people, especially if we can use it to raise living standards and conditions around the world.

Some at the top fear an ‘averaging out’ process.

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:43:20pm

re: #187 lawhawk

Another clash on the Line of Control between Pakistan and India - heavy fire reported.

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Trump needs to go to the boundary physically, and talk to each side, great leader-like like he did at the DMZ of Korea.

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TedStriker  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:44:17pm

re: #304 wrenchwench

Some at the top fear an ‘averaging out’ process.

Frankly, at this point, they ought to be worrying about their heads ending up on pikes, because that’s what usually happens when societal equality gets so out of whack.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:45:29pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

He needs to be fired. I assume an investigation is being conducted before disciplinary action is taken. I don’t see how he can continue to be employed by the government after this revelation.

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:46:45pm

re: #306 TedStriker

Frankly, at this point, they oughta to be worrying about their heads ending up on pikes.

That’s some near the top, never the ones AT the top.

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:47:35pm

re: #305 BlueSpotinAL

Trump needs to go to the boundary physically, and talk to each side, great leader-like like he did at the DMZ of Korea.

Dreamer.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:53:29pm

re: #282 Decatur Deb

Let me answer that: Koch Foods.
usatoday.com

The brothers actually have nothing to do with this company. It’s owned by Joseph Grendys, who should be the one arrested, along with the other suits.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:53:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:55:31pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:56:24pm

re: #310 GlutenFreeJesus

The brothers actually have nothing to do with this company. It’s owned by Joseph Grendys, who should be the one arrested, along with the other suits.

My #282.

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 3:59:31pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I know a guy who would drive 4 or 5 hours to get to Juarez when he turned 18 (or could pass for18). Lower drinking age. Lotsa bars. Biggest city for miles around.

Border crossing was quicker then.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:05:02pm

Republicans trying to deflect from the bad optics of Trump’s visit in Dayton.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:05:25pm
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DodgerFan1988  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:05:58pm

re: #272 jaunte

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Mescalero09  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:07:22pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:07:56pm

re: #316 The Pie Overlord!

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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:08:09pm

re: #315 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Republicans trying to deflect from the bad optics of Trump’s visit in Dayton.

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sagehen  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:09:20pm

re: #316 The Pie Overlord!

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where’s the pineapple?

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:09:21pm

Love the cocked-headed expression of the woman behind him, like “wut?”:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:10:38pm

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thread, five tweets.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:10:46pm

re: #322 Barefoot Grin

Love the cocked-headed expression of the woman behind him, like “wut?”:

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“But enough about me! Let’s talk about you - how do you feel about me?”

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:13:01pm

re: #324 Blind Frog Belly White

“But enough about me! Let’s talk about you - how do you feel about me?”

:) That pretty much captures it. I’ll bet he is a huge fucking bore to sit beside at dinners.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:13:31pm

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:20:17pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:21:51pm

Did you ever notice what tiny feet Dotard has, in addition to his stubby little fingers & misshapen backward-pointing thumbs? Well just look at his shoes compared to the shoes everyone else is wearing. Do his feet look itty bitty? That’s because he is wearing HIGH HEELS. That’s what makes him walk so unsteady and look like he is about to fall over.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:22:45pm
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geosherman  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:24:22pm

re: #265 Colère Tueur de Lapin

thank you for that! I must have looked the word up a few times after seeing it but I could not seem to find the relevance to the word in the sentences I was reading. Your post has made me a bit smarter for the moment!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:26:01pm

re: #329 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

LOL, are you dragging someone in particular there, or just a general fuqueyoo?

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:26:24pm

re: #300 jaunte

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Ming5000  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:27:10pm

re: #252 Decatur Deb

Dunno, but I remember you donated to Doug Jones. I’m on his volunteer call list again, just in case God is good enough to let Roy Moore win the GOP primary.

Go here:
fec.gov

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gocart mozart  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:32:20pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:34:02pm

silver jews - american water (full album)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:39:22pm

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s back…😠

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:40:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:46:12pm

We now go to a character witness for Tucker Carlson.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:47:40pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:48:23pm

re: #329 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Well that didn’t go over to well here at home. Accused of exercising “male” privilege.
No, I am not. Point being that tits are tits, regardless of the plumbing down below.
Why can a CIS male with 38B tits wander around shirtless while a CIS/Trans woman with the same tits have to cover them up?

Someone, anyone explain this logic to me?

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:50:02pm

re: #340 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Well that didn’t go over to well here at home. Accused of exercising “male” privilege.
No, I am not. Point being that tits are tits, regardless of the plumbing down below.
Why can a CIS male with 38B tits wander around shirtless while a CIS/Trans woman with the same tits have to cover them up?

Someone, anyone explain this logic to me?

Patriarchy. No logic was expended.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:56:19pm

re: #340 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Well that didn’t go over to well here at home. Accused of exercising “male” privilege.
No, I am not. Point being that tits are tits, regardless of the plumbing down below.
Why can a CIS male with 38B tits wander around shirtless while a CIS/Trans woman with the same tits have to cover them up?

Someone, anyone explain this logic to me?

In New York, it’s legal.

Any place a man is allowed to be shirtless, a woman is as well. That was decided long ago by the state supreme court.

As such, the Outdoor Topless Co-Ed Pulp Fiction Appreciation Society was formed in New York City a few years ago to exercise their right in public. (Amongst other things, fiction publishers send them books to pose with in photographs as a promotion for authors, and the book club gets free reading material.)

They have a blog, which most would find NSFW due to the thousands of photographs of women without tops. Occasionally some of the featured authors will also show up with them. (You learn about these things in the erotic Romance editing biz.)

I won’t link their blog here, but you can find it by their name in a search engine.

Conservatives are terrified of boobs, but think open carry is just fine. I think they have their priorities screwed up.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:56:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:58:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 4:59:59pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:01:34pm

My high school (that I graduated from 51 years ago) is #50 on this list, after “Eating A Jean Jacket”

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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:02:48pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:04:48pm

It’s a shit list. Some of the schools listed have been shut for years.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:07:48pm

We’re winning, apparently.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:10:43pm

*THUD*

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:11:36pm

re: #349 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Damn. Woo hoo. ‘Merika, unsafe at all speeds.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:12:34pm

JFC

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:15:30pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Oh Goddamn just shut up for once in your miserable life.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:16:28pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

I would argue he was trying to save children because they were helpless children, not because they are brown.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:16:49pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

*THUD*

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Of course, Trump has the time to bash his opponents but doesn’t about the people in this country. Fox News was too busy spoonfeeding him Trump is the real victim of El Paso crap.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:17:28pm

re: #315 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Republicans trying to deflect from the bad optics of Trump’s visit in Dayton.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:17:47pm

re: #354 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I would argue he was trying to save children because they were helpless children, not because they are brown.

He would have done this if it was in Vermont. Oakley is a hero.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:18:51pm

re: #354 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I would argue he was trying to save children because they were helpless children, not because they are brown.

the children were being slaughtered because they were brown

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:18:52pm

re: #341 wrenchwench

Patriarchy. No logic was expended.

Time for this attitude to be squashed, twisted into the pavement and the kicked into the gutter.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:19:02pm

re: #356 Belafon

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Yeah like the NRA never raises money after shootings and btw McBath’s son was a murder victim of the paranoid fantasies you assholes create for gun owners.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:19:21pm

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

the children were being slaughtered because they were brown

Yep.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:19:35pm

re: #354 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I would argue he was trying to save children because they were helpless children, not because they are brown.

The children were being slaughtered because they were brown, and the officer was trying to save them because they were children. The people who write these articles are not required to take writing class.

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TedStriker  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:20:10pm

re: #342 Anymouse 🌹🎃

In New York, it’s legal.

Any place a man is allowed to be shirtless, a woman is as well. That was decided long ago by the state supreme court.

As such, the Outdoor Topless Co-Ed Pulp Fiction Appreciation Society was formed in New York City a few years ago to exercise their right in public. (Amongst other things, fiction publishers send them books to pose with in photographs as a promotion for authors, and the book club gets free reading material.)

They have a blog, which most would find NSFW due to the thousands of photographs of women without tops. Occasionally some of the featured authors will also show up with them. (You learn about these things in the erotic Romance editing biz.)

I won’t link their blog here, but you can find it by their name in a search engine.

Conservatives are terrified of boobs, but think open carry is just fine. I think they have their priorities screwed up.

If they weren’t ashamed of their kinks, then they wouldn’t be conservatives, would they?

Funny how sex is one of the few things they do have shame, justified or not, about these days, innit?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:20:28pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

WTF? Should he have gone down shooting at the cops, Mr. Trump? Would that have pleased you better?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:20:31pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:21:58pm

re: #342 Anymouse 🌹🎃

In New York, it’s legal.

Any place a man is allowed to be shirtless, a woman is as well. That was decided long ago by the state supreme court.

As such, the Outdoor Topless Co-Ed Pulp Fiction Appreciation Society was formed in New York City a few years ago to exercise their right in public. (Amongst other things, fiction publishers send them books to pose with in photographs as a promotion for authors, and the book club gets free reading material.)

They have a blog, which most would find NSFW due to the thousands of photographs of women without tops. Occasionally some of the featured authors will also show up with them. (You learn about these things in the erotic Romance editing biz.)

I won’t link their blog here, but you can find it by their name in a search engine.

Conservatives are terrified of boobs, but think open carry is just fine. I think they have their priorities screwed up.

Was not aware of that. OTH it’s New York. Not Idaho

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:22:17pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:23:17pm

re: #356 Belafon

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:23:59pm

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They like to talk tough but they’re a bunch of cowards.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:24:20pm

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

Shorter Republican comment: We don’t English good.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:26:44pm

There’s always a tweet, and that doesn’t just apply to Donald Trump.

So his religion wants a crusade, I guess. That would be in keeping with other religions when they feel they are in trouble.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:27:51pm

re: #342 Anymouse 🌹🎃

In New York, it’s legal.

Any place a man is allowed to be shirtless, a woman is as well. That was decided long ago by the state supreme court.

As such, the Outdoor Topless Co-Ed Pulp Fiction Appreciation Society was formed in New York City a few years ago to exercise their right in public. (Amongst other things, fiction publishers send them books to pose with in photographs as a promotion for authors, and the book club gets free reading material.)

They have a blog, which most would find NSFW due to the thousands of photographs of women without tops. Occasionally some of the featured authors will also show up with them. (You learn about these things in the erotic Romance editing biz.)

I won’t link their blog here, but you can find it by their name in a search engine.

Conservatives are terrified of boobs, but think open carry is just fine. I think they have their priorities screwed up.

All the violence in Avengers - which I thoroughly enjoyed - gets you a PG-13, but breasts get you an R. It makes sense only if you value violence.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:28:11pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:28:49pm

re: #86 DangerMan

before the spam went into ‘delete forever’ i copied the subject:

i’d be so thin i’d only have one side

In case no one has said it yet, DangerMoebius

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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:29:14pm

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If you come up with a clever nickname, you are responsible for its reasonably forseeable misconstruction. “Moscow Mitch” is focused and has pride of place.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:32:45pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

An insulting comment to a serious professional. “A career in Hollywood”, what a fucking asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:34:51pm

O.M.G.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:38:27pm

I needed this right about now:

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:39:24pm

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

O.M.G.

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People need to go to jail for that. Soon. Or it accelerates.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:39:51pm
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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:41:12pm

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Matt, Matt it’s ‘ideological’
You’re a governor ferchristsakes

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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:41:19pm

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

This administration is fucking sick.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:42:19pm

STAY CLASSY DOTARD

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:42:26pm

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

I needed this right about now:

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That doggo gets A++++

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:43:38pm

the green shirt guy:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:43:51pm

TRUTH

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:44:16pm

Trying pork butt street tacos out of the Instant Pot. I hope they turn out, that pork butt was almost $20!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:44:47pm

Night Lizard. Time for me to crawl back under my rock.

(for you old timers).

Cal Smith - The Lord Knows I’m Drinking

For you young ones, Pay attention to the ads. They reflect what is out there,

The past is but a reflection. And none of it is good.

Rest well

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:45:27pm

re: #376 Amory Blaine

An insulting comment to a serious professional. “A career in Hollywood”, what a fucking asshole.

How do you respond when an asshole president says that to you in front of people? Cameras and video going….

Uh…thanks??? I guess?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:45:41pm

but I thought he said it was all a hoax?

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:47:06pm

TUCKER CARLSON IS RIGHT ABOUT WHITE SUPREMACY BEING A MYTH!!!! says this expert in White Supremacy:
In spoiler tags because he is a fucking asshat.

Click to Reveal

Are you sure you want to go there? I mean this guy really is an asshole.

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gocart mozart  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:47:52pm
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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:52:39pm

A women I went to school with, one of the first women in the Navy nuclear program, has been called a racist by a former friend and she’s sad. I’m glad someone called her that because her statements on facebook have been pretty obviously racists, and I suspect those were reserved compared to what she says offline.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:53:17pm

What the fuck. He’s worked up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:54:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 5:58:00pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:00:26pm

I. Just. Can’t. Anymore.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:05:27pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:06:01pm

re: #395 teleskiguy

What the fuck. He’s worked up.

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Donito Trumpolini’s Festivus Airing of the Grievances is a daily event, but it seems to be starting tomorrow’s celebrations tonight.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:06:11pm

Well, I’m convinced. The FEC Website is designed to be user-antagonistic.

It’s designed more poorly than Trump’s new White House Website, and that’s saying a lot.

I can make a couple assumptions about political donations from my town though:

a) Probably not many people do.
b) Anyone who did make a donation besides my wife and me donated to Trump. I’m pretty sure I don’t need to look that up.
c) How did I survive on my village board as an open and notorious Democrat and DSA member for so long?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:06:31pm

re: #399 Charles Johnson

I was actually thinking that 30-50 feral hogs in a suit is a pretty accurate descriptor of the sitting President, to be honest.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:07:44pm

re: #402 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I was actually thinking that 30-50 feral hogs in a suit is a pretty accurate descriptor of the sitting President, to be honest.

Nah he’s more like 30-50 bags of wet dog shit.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:09:07pm

re: #403 HappyWarrior

Nah he’s more like 30-50 bags of wet dog shit.

I have a hard time believing wet dog shit can tweet, but hey, I’ve seen weirder things.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:09:58pm

re: #404 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have a hard time believing wet dog shit can tweet, but hey, I’ve seen weirder things.

You’re a little older than me. Remember the bad guy in The Nightmare Before Christmas?

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:10:14pm

re: #398 The Pie Overlord!

I. Just. Can’t. Anymore.

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I’m glad they’re doing it because the backpack inserts are stupid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:12:19pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:13:55pm

re: #406 Belafon

I’m glad they’re doing it because the backpack inserts are stupid.

I imagine Cinderella will work better at stopping bullets. /s

The Kevlar thing was to play on fear in the name of profit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:14:15pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:14:24pm

re: #405 HappyWarrior

You’re a little older than me. Remember the bad guy in The Nightmare Before Christmas?

Actually, I don’t. Sheltered upbringing over here.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:14:51pm

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

All they should concede is that it would be better if there were fewer military style weapons to kill people. “I’m pretty sure the dead are enough of a concession.”

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:14:54pm
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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:15:56pm

re: #410 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Actually, I don’t. Sheltered upbringing over here.

Oogie Boogie, a bunch of bugs in a burlap sack.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:16:59pm

Roentgens replace proof ratings, doubles as a nightlight.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:17:00pm

re: #413 Belafon

Oogie Boogie, a bunch of bugs in a burlap sack.

That … is a mental image I could have done without.

Imma sleep with a flamethrower next to my bed tonight.

/half

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:17:55pm

re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wholly crap there are a bunch of wingnuts in there.

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Chrysicat  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:19:12pm
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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:19:16pm

re: #414 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Roentgens replace proof ratings, doubles as a nightlight.

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When you’re hoping the alcohol will shorten your life.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:19:52pm

re: #418 Belafon

When you’re hoping the alcohol will shorten your life.

Or your half life.

…I’ll see myself out.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:20:16pm

re: #403 HappyWarrior

Nah he’s more like 30-50 bags of wet dog shit.

In a 20-bag suit.

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:20:31pm

re: #414 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Roentgens replace proof ratings, doubles as a nightlight.

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Is that a feral hog on the label?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:21:00pm

re: #412 Ace-o-aces

Their followers aren’t.

There seems to be two streams of mutually-exclusive conservaderp thought, because the faith must be defended at all costs:

a) White supremacy is not a serious threat, or a hoax
b) Democrats are white supremacists.

All religions will deny facts to protect the faith.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:21:07pm

re: #420 The Pie Overlord!

In a 20-bag suit.

that leaks…

a lot.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:21:46pm

re: #405 HappyWarrior

You’re a little older than me. Remember the bad guy in The Nightmare Before Christmas?

I remember the Golgotha Shit Demon in Dogma.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:22:27pm

re: #419 Eclectic Cyborg

Or your half life.

…I’ll see myself out.

*WHACK!*

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stpaulbear  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:23:17pm

re: #405 HappyWarrior

You’re a little older than me. Remember the bad guy in The Nightmare Before Christmas?

The guy who looked like Frank Zappa?

Oh wait… that was from Santa Claus Conquers The Martians.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:24:26pm
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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:25:07pm

re: #424 The Pie Overlord!

I remember the Golgotha Shit Demon in Dogma.

And Chet Donnelly from Weird Science.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:25:54pm

re: #427 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not only did they have a shooting, but they also had to deal with Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:27:02pm

re: #427 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Can’t you just feel the empathy.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:28:20pm

re: #427 Backwoods_Sleuth

We go from “Only Nixon could go to China” from Star Trek to the current hell in the White House.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:28:43pm

welp

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:28:48pm

You know it just occurred to me Trump probably doesn’t realize his people are cherry picking folks for the photo ops and to meet with him.

“Everyone loves you Mr. President, but these people are your biggest fans!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:29:50pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:30:29pm

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp

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I am convinced Miller and Conway will be the only smarmy fucks who hang on until the end of this Admin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:33:07pm

in Cleveland, Ohio, today:

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:34:46pm

re: #435 Eclectic Cyborg

I am convinced Miller and Conway will be the only smarmy fucks who hang on until the end of this Admin.

Miller’s gotta go. I thought he’d be right behind Bannon, or right behind Manafort.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:35:55pm

re: #437 wrenchwench

Miller’s gotta go. I thought he’d be right behind Bannon, or right behind Manafort.

Miller still has Trump’s ear. It doesn’t matter if he’s official or not. The only way to make him “go” is to take some kind of extreme measure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:36:35pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:37:09pm

re: #438 Belafon

Miller still has Trump’s ear. It doesn’t matter if he’s official or not. The only way to make him “go” is to take some kind of extreme measure.

Like get Trump out before election time?

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:37:42pm

re: #438 Belafon

Miller still has Trump’s ear. It doesn’t matter if he’s official or not. The only way to make him “go” is to take some kind of extreme measure.

Yeah, like stopping all the racist bullshit. Which is why Miller is there. That’s never gonna happen, so he’s not going anywhere.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:39:59pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:40:08pm

re: #433 Eclectic Cyborg

You know it just occurred to me Trump probably doesn’t realize his people are cherry picking folks for the photo ops and to meet with him.

“Everyone loves you Mr. President, but these people are your biggest fans!”

Potemkin ICU

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:42:31pm

re: #437 wrenchwench

Miller’s gotta go. I thought he’d be right behind Bannon, or right behind Manafort.

Why does he have any say with our diplomats?

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:43:36pm

re: #444 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Why does he have any say with our diplomats?

Trump speaks for him.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:45:02pm

re: #437 wrenchwench

Miller’s gotta go. I thought he’d be right behind Bannon, or right behind Manafort.

I think Miller will be here for the long run.

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:46:05pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:51:31pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:51:37pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:52:20pm

re: #449 teleskiguy

6 seconds!

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:53:03pm

Six seconds! Foiled by Alouette yet again!

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:54:14pm

It was a staged campaign ad paid for by taxpayers. I am sorry that the Miami Hospital staff had to waste valuable time to stroke the insecure shitbag’s ego.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:54:41pm

re: #451 teleskiguy

Six seconds! Foiled by Alouette yet again!

I will save you a slice of pizza. No pineapple tho.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:55:18pm

re: #453 The Pie Overlord!

I will save you a slice of pizza. No pineapple tho.

Fair enough, I’m easy when it comes to pizza, except for the little fishies.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:56:03pm

re: #454 teleskiguy

Fair enough, I’m easy when it comes to pizza, except for the little fishies.

I tried to do anchovy pizza when we were in Rome. I just couldn’t. More than half of that one went in the garbage, sad to say.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2019 • 6:59:41pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:00:32pm

Mike Turner, R-OH10

I’ll be fine with that Rep. Turner if you’re supporting a clean bill with none of the immigration crap attached to it.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:04:37pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:04:37pm

Trump’s openness to extensive background checks for gun buys draws warning from NRA

bully mgmt theory demands that democrats work up a sustained chorus of “scaredy pants donnie is afraid of the NRA!!!”

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:06:01pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:07:16pm

re: #456 goddamnedfrank

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:09:14pm

Guys who are big on macho masculinity are some of most insecure, fucked up people I know

Paranoid as shit, too!

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:09:48pm

re: #460 DodgerFan1988

OUR MANLY MAN IMPULSES ARE BEING SUPPRESSED, AND IT’S LEADING TO MEN SHOOTING AND KILLING SCORES OF PEOPLE! WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE MANLY MEN WITHOUT THOSE BITCHES TRYING TO TELL US TO NOT GET PISS DRUNK AND SHOOT OUR GUNS INTO HILLARY TARGETS. STUPID BITCHES!

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:11:26pm

re: #462 Eclectic Cyborg

Guys who are big on macho masculinity are some of most insecure, fucked up people I know

Paranoid as shit, too!

Seconded. Can attest. One guy I see on Facebook who has a picture of a big Trump flag on his property is going through a divorce right now.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:15:25pm

re: #464 teleskiguy

Seconded. Can attest. One guy I see on Facebook who has a picture of a big Trump flag on his property is going through a divorce right now.

Toxic masculinity usually winds up in the male going into an incel phase. Women just aren’t willing to put up with men’s dominant alpha-male bullshit anymore - which is a good thing overall, but for the guys who are affected by the change, they’re pissed.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:18:06pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:21:06pm
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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:22:36pm

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:25:45pm

re: #466 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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The fact that the SoulCycle Billionaire guy, under pressure, wants to explain that he supports Trump for the tax cuts and not for the racism is actually a clarifying and important moment about what’s really happening in America

what’s that?
that it’s ok to support a racist as long as youre only in it for the money?

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Kilroy was here  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:26:02pm

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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:27:54pm

re: #419 Eclectic Cyborg

instantrimshot.com

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Dread Pirate  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:35:50pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:36:40pm

The cruelty is the point.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:40:18pm

re: #473 The Pie Overlord!

An organization that would do this must be disbanded and the leadership prosecuted. We’re getting into UN territory.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:41:36pm

re: #473 The Pie Overlord!

Next stop, Trump’s properties, right?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:43:23pm

Fucking anime obsessed incels

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:44:50pm

re: #473 The Pie Overlord!

The cruelty is the point.

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I’m hoping Karma will be painful for him.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:45:00pm

re: #473 The Pie Overlord!

Chaos, cruelty, and lifetime mental anguish to own the libs.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:45:30pm

re: #477 HappyWarrior

I hate this motherfucker.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:45:50pm

What would happen to the Chief of Police in your town if his cops busted a shoplifter and left her preschooler wandering in the Target parking lot?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:46:15pm

re: #462 Eclectic Cyborg

Guys who are big on macho masculinity are some of most insecure, fucked up people I know

Paranoid as shit, too!

If you’re over 16 and still talking about alphas and betas, you’re a fucking loser.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:47:09pm

re: #479 Ace Rothstein

I hate this motherfucker.

He makes me so ashamed to be an American every time I see his ugly face.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:48:02pm

re: #480 Decatur Deb

What would happen to the Chief of Police in your town if his cops busted a shoplifter and left her preschooler wandering in the Target parking lot?

That’s the argument I’ve been making. It’s a misdemeanor and they’re punishing kids.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:48:31pm

re: #480 Decatur Deb

What would happen to the Chief of Police in your town if his cops busted a shoplifter and left her preschooler wandering in the Target parking lot?

If the shoplifter was Black, he’d get a promotion.
If the shoplifter was White & kleptomanic (it’s a “mental illness”) he would personally drive her to rehab & her child to her sister’s place.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:50:12pm

This is sick.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:50:24pm

re: #484 The Pie Overlord!

If the shoplifter was Black, he’d get a promotion.
If the shoplifter was White & kleptomanic (it’s a “mental illness”) he would personally drive her to rehab & her child to her sister’s place.

No. Not even the Klannish cops in this town would pull something like that. Who in the hell gave these ICE mofos that kind of immunity?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:51:38pm

re: #485 The Pie Overlord!

This is sick.

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I’m going to celebrate when he is gone. I have never hated someone so much.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:52:04pm

My only advice to incels: If you stop being such fucking assholes, you can find a woman who will fuck you. Tinder works.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:58:10pm

re: #485 The Pie Overlord!

These photos are total shit. Who takes them?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:59:33pm

re: #489 Ace Rothstein

These photos are total shit. Who takes them?

The White House. Press wasn’t allowed probably because it was obvious he wasn’t wanted.

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Cheechako  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:01:58pm

re: #485 The Pie Overlord!

This is sick.

[Embedded content]

In the original, un-cropped photo, he has his right hand very close to an inappropriate place.

Edit - See #234 this thread

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:02:41pm

re: #489 Ace Rothstein

These photos are total shit. Who takes them?

It wasn’t Pete Souza. He was a professional.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:03:05pm

re: #387 teleskiguy

Trying pork butt street tacos out of the Instant Pot. I hope they turn out, that pork butt was almost $20!

OMG! They turned out so fucking good! Street taco tortilla, pork, pico de gallo, squirt of lime. MMM. I’ve got lunch and dinner for the next few days, probably have to resupply tortillas and limes, and possibly the pico.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:03:11pm

re: #491 Cheechako

In the original, un-cropped photo, he has his right hand very close to an inappropriate place.

Oh Jesus.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:04:28pm

re: #491 Cheechako

He probably told her he’ll be dating her in ten years.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:05:00pm

re: #491 Cheechako

In the original, un-cropped photo, he has his right hand very close to an inappropriate place.

Reminds me of this photo op:, where he is trying to show what a devoted dad he is with one hand on the phone (making deals) and the other hand on his daughter’s private parts.

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:05:59pm

re: #485 The Pie Overlord!

This is sick.

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She survived a grazing head wound! That is so cool!

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:08:28pm

re: #489 Ace Rothstein

These photos are total shit. Who takes them?

sick-o-fants

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:08:46pm
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Cheechako  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:09:55pm

re: #491 Cheechako

In the original, un-cropped photo, he has his right hand very close to an inappropriate place.

See #234 - this thread.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:10:10pm

re: #499 goddamnedfrank

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I would not have known this was at a hospital following a shooting.

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:14:44pm

re: #491 Cheechako

In the original, un-cropped photo, he has his right hand very close to an inappropriate place.

Well, you know, gropers grope. Kinda cute chick who came within an inch of having her brains splattered all over the street? Give her tits a little squeeze. It is what you do when you are a celebrity. And they let you do it! It’s fantastic!

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:15:16pm

re: #502 austin_blue

Then you get her number!

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Cheechako  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:17:22pm

re: #502 austin_blue

Well, you know, gropers grope. Kinda cute chick who came within an inch of having her brains splattered all over the street? Give her tits a little squeeze. It is what you do when you are a celebrity. And they let you do it! It’s fantastic!

Yah, back in the olden days, we’d call that “Coppin’ a Feel”.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:17:58pm

re: #476 goddamnedfrank

Fucking anime obsessed incels

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Hey, my boys are anime obsessed, eat salads without dressing, and have chosen pink clothing as often as any other color. Leave the anime out of it.

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:19:29pm
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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:21:20pm

re: #502 austin_blue

Well, you know, gropers grope. Kinda cute chick who came within an inch of having her brains splattered all over the street? Give her tits a little squeeze. It is what you do when you are a celebrity. And they let you do it! It’s fantastic!

once I want someone to say hey don’t touch me
but they’re clearly all vetted

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DangerMan  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:22:15pm

re: #504 Cheechako

Yah, back in the olden days, we’d call that “Coppin’ a Feel”.

well he’s not getting it any other way

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:29:48pm

The New York Times is going to copulate that magic balance fairy chicken to death. They should be charged with animal cruelty.

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:30:58pm

re: #508 DangerMan

well he’s not getting it any other way

Nice burn!

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:34:04pm

re: #509 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The New York Times is going to copulate that magic balance fairy chicken to death. They should be charged with animal cruelty.

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I believe that would be an Oscar winning documentary short.

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teleskiguy  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:34:51pm

Shit’s so fucked up. I need to smoke more weed.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:35:57pm

re: #509 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:39:19pm

re: #505 Belafon

Hey, my boys are anime obsessed, eat salads without dressing, and have chosen pink clothing as often as any other color. Leave the anime out of it.

True. But there is a huge difference between most anime, and hentai, which I think was Frank’s, admittedly, awkward point.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:39:45pm

re: #513 Belafon

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You never know who’s going to be responding to a question — in this case, the tweets were from decent people but, just as easily, Russian bots / Trump trolls could have overwhelmed the responses.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:43:39pm

re: #486 Decatur Deb

No. Not even the Klannish cops in this town would pull something like that. Who in the hell gave these ICE mofos that kind of immunity?

It’s possible, even likely, that ICE did not coordinate this with CPS (as would be normal in any other planned arrest where there are children involved). They would not have trusted a “liberal” agency like CPS not to tip off the targets.This would leave CPS having to respond after the fact. It’s a small town and CPS may not even have an office there. Like all public services, they are likely to be pretty thin on the ground anyway.

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gocart mozart  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:44:27pm
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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:47:28pm

re: #512 teleskiguy

Shit’s so fucked up. I need to smoke more weed.

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That may be the most appropriate use I have ever seen for a recorder.

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gocart mozart  Aug 7, 2019 • 8:59:59pm

Went mini viral 550 likes

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:00:31pm

re: #518 austin_blue

That may be the most appropriate use I have ever seen for a recorder.

Speaking of flutes, She Who Must Be Obeyed’s musical partner of some thirty years, Adita, is is a whiz on an open holed Andean flute called a Cana. It is like a recorder but with a notched top. When Tarantino was filming Kill Bill 2, he needed to overdub David Carradine’s shakuhashi playing. Robert Rodriguez, who had used Adita in a couple of films, suggested her to do it. And she did.

Uncredited, she still gets quarterly checks from rentals. The joy of film work.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:05:48pm

re: #414 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Roentgens replace proof ratings, doubles as a nightlight.

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Is it spiked with polonium?

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:12:29pm

re: #519 gocart mozart

4 days after the 2016 election, I posted the following on my FB account concerning the character of Trump — and a wrestling fan replied: “Post NWO-Hogan. Trump is a Heel if I’ve ever seen one.”

Had a revelation this morning and the Google affirmed it. The nation did not elect Mussolini; it elected Hulk Hogan. He campaigns (and lives) like a WWE champion: bullies everyone, insults his opponents, boasts of his prowess, lies about everything, interrupts others, has no sense of decency or compassion, and needs to be surrounded by beautiful women. Fact checkers showed that he was number 1 — ahead of even Ted — in lies about past events. And now he has even stepped back from his trademark proposals.

Ok — I know wrestling fans will have better analogies

It does seem that a person who governs by constantly insulting everyone who doesn’t praise them behaves exactly like a WWE wrestler, without understanding that his words harm real people.

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:12:36pm

re: #521 Joe Bacon 🌹

Is it spiked with polonium?

Only if you scrape it off your smoke detector and put into the drink of a former KGB operative in London.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:14:00pm

re: #470 Kilroy was here

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There should be a similar one that says, ” I visited america”.

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:22:16pm

re: #524 Amory Blaine

There should be a similar one that says, ” I visited america”.

Sad but true. Where else in the western world can you get the shit shot out of you while buying school supplies for your kids? Six or seven Mexican nationals died doing exactly that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:25:18pm

re: #509 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The New York Times is going to copulate that magic balance fairy chicken to death. They should be charged with animal cruelty.

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She’s just the typical arrogant GOP Stenographer who posts the latest RepubliKKKlan talking points on the Screw York Times.

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gocart mozart  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:27:03pm
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Dread Pirate  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:29:49pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:32:07pm

re: #527 gocart mozart

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What a racist ass!

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gocart mozart  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:37:46pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:38:18pm

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:39:08pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:41:12pm

re: #531 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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OK, Jack! I’ll pray!

Jesus, my favorite nailed up person, I pray that Trump and Pence are both impeached and Larry Flynt gets a hold of the pee tape. I further pray that Ivanka, Don Jr. and Fredo are all indicted by the State of New York on fraud charges and get convicted.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 7, 2019 • 9:48:51pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:00:27pm

re: #509 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The New York Times is going to copulate that magic balance fairy chicken to death. They should be charged with animal cruelty.

Well, apparently she was shamed into puling the tweet down. It is no longer on the site.

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:01:15pm

Well, I am going to toddle off to bed. Why the El Paso PD let DRumpf out of the airport gates before his campaign paid their previous $570,000 bill is beyond me, but there you go.

I think it is important to note that today the POTUS treated wounded victims of mass shootings like props, not people. Little staged puppets for his photo shots. Selfies for his ego, and Melanoma was right beside him, basking in his complete disregard for any kind of human decency for victims of horrific violence that quite literally appeared out of nowhere and will affect them for the rest of their lives.

It was a shit show, staged for the ninnies and feebs that are his base.

It was just appalling. I’m out..

Night all, sweet scaly dreams. Let us not dwell on what new hell awaits us in the morning. Dog knows we will be facing it soon enough.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:04:44pm

The answers to this dummy are hilarious.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:10:53pm

Trump and ICE carrying out Patrick Crusius’s will.

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Chrysicat  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:12:42pm

Not that there was any before, but it does make you wonder how there were still any sane people left at State. Should’ve already been full of actual #LittleEichmanns.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:18:34pm

re: #346 The Pie Overlord!

My high school (that I graduated from 51 years ago) is #50 on this list, after “Eating A Jean Jacket”

LOL.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:19:58pm

re: #537 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The answers to this dummy are hilarious.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:23:01pm

re: #541 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:23:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:26:39pm

re: #539 Chrysicat

Not that there was any before, but it does make you wonder how there were still any sane people left at State. Should’ve already been full of actual #LittleEichmanns.

Strictly, Trump feels Trump is the smartest man in the United States. He just feels Stephen Miller is his best advisor which is bad enough.

Working for Michele Bachmann (R-Mars) and Jeff Sessions (R-acist Keebler Elf) was not his first brush with wingnuttery. He hooked up with all the right people in the Nazi version of LinkedIn while at Duke.
en.wikipedia.org (see section “Early Life”)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:47:27pm
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:55:17pm

re: #395 teleskiguy

What the fuck. He’s worked up.

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Something probably happened behind the scenes that we’ll find out about in a week or so.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 10:57:54pm

re: #546 Dr Lizardo

Something probably happened behind the scenes that we’ll find out about in a week or so.

Or an hour or two when he tweets it out himself.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:02:11pm

Bad enough an idiot was forced to resign from the Beaver County PA GOP leadership after she used racial slurs attacking the Steelers.

Now the GOP in Fayette County thought it would be oh so funny to put AOC, Ilhan, Rashida and Ayanna on a dart board. Oh they also made targets of Governor Wolf and Senator Schumer…

549
Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:02:22pm

re: #547 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Or an hour or two when he tweets it out himself.

LOL.

Trump’s nothing if not predictable. You can always tell when something’s got him seriously rattled.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:03:44pm

I’ve been predicting he’s gonna use the “N” word in public.

It’s coming!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:07:18pm

He is seriously getting dragged.

He already voted against HR-8. He has no intent of endorsing the bill now, no interest in pressuring Mitch McConnell to get off his butt and bring it to a vote, and only cares now because his daughter was personally involved in escaping the shooting (allegedly).

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Dread Pirate  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:27:06pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:36:07pm

The Nautilus is a smaller ship than the Okeanos Explorer, but it too has a ROV system, and the Nautilus is spending this year in the Pacific.

Today they posted some highlights of the recent expedition:

2019 Nautilus Expedition Mid-Season Highlights | Nautilus Live

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sagehen  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:40:52pm

ore: #543 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Wasn’t Blago a Celebrity Apprentice contestant? While he was awaiting sentencing for trying to monetize his appointment authority?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:48:06pm

re: #554 sagehen

o

Wasn’t Blago a Celebrity Apprentice contestant? While he was awaiting sentencing for trying to monetize his appointment authority?

Rod Blagojevich on Celebrity Apprentice - Episode 2

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:19:23am

re: #554 sagehen

o

Wasn’t Blago a Celebrity Apprentice contestant? While he was awaiting sentencing for trying to monetize his appointment authority?

Plenty of wingnuts in that thread as well.

Conservatives are like a Chatty Cathy doll. Pull the string and a pre-recorded talking point comes out.

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Chrysicat  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:48:43am

Or should I have said “#TrumptyNumpty”?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:55:50am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:11:33am

I wonder if he will reply?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:42:08am

re: #559 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I wonder if he will reply?

I’m guessing “whataboutism” “Obama” “Hillary” &c.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:54:50am

re: #560 Anymouse 🌹🎃

He’s one of those minor league Christian apologists, who appears to not like the muckiness of the real world and only wants to present ethereal, often fallacious, arguments that if only America was more Je$u$-y then everything would be ok.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:57:36am

Another racist weighs in:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:59:10am

re: #561 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

He’s one of those minor league Christian apologists, who appears to not like the muckiness of the real world and only wants to present ethereal, often fallacious, arguments that if only America was more Je$u$-y then everything would be ok.

In some way or another, they all do. That’s why religions recruit through such things as missionary work. (With few exceptions, such as Judaism.)

Even New Age faiths such as Wicca recruit, though it’s more personal and not organised like a church.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:06:14am

Hey John Voight:

Ohio House Explosion Investigated as Hate Crime After Racist Graffiti Is Found (goes to the New York Times)

After the home of an interracial couple was destroyed in an explosion early Wednesday, investigators found hateful graffiti spray-painted on the couple’s garage.

(more)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:12:28am

re: #562 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Jon Voight defends Trump against critics who say he is racist, says racism was “solved long ago”

That’s right. We even elected a black President who was treated with the same respect and deference shown to all the white Presidents who preceded him…

Right?

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Dread Pirate  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:12:40am

Charles should tweet @ trump more often.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:19:33am

re: #565 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s right. We even elected a black President who was treated with the same respect and deference shown to all the white Presidents who preceded him…

Right?

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Right there in front of the Christian cross. Nice optics.

Jesus Saves
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:25:30am

If you look at the realtime seismograph from the
CaSeismograph Youtube channel:

CaSeismograph Live Earthquake Stream

Scroll back to (what in California was still Aug 7), UTC 00:53:11, which at the posting of this comment is about eight hours and 15 minutes backwards on the Youtube buffer, and you can see what looks like a large earthquake, but it really looks like preshock for a larger movement that comes very shortly later.

But when I look at the list of earthquakes (see the csv file at earthquake.usgs.gov since the USGS map now is too limited to show close to US but outside US boundary earthquakes) there are no California earthquakes, or even US or even Mexican, to account for the needle displacement at the time the Youtube video clock indicates.

I can only think of one explanation: the sensor was located right on top of the epicenter of an otherwise small quake, the sensor moving so much, but not a quake large enough to make it onto the list. Or the video feed’s digital clock display is wrong. Or perhaps it was some other event, such as a nearby quarry explosion, etc.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:26:51am

Hey, John Voight:

Arizona police slam racial bias training: “Absolute worst training I’ve ever had” (CBS, with video, 7:15)

CBS News reached out to more than 150 departments in big cities nationwide. At least 69% of the departments said they’ve added training that teaches officers how to manage unconscious biases we all have - including race.

More than half (57%) of those say they’ve added bias training since Ferguson. But when asked if it works, most say they don’t have a way to measure success - and some officers even said it’s made their jobs harder.

“The content was the absolute worst training I’ve ever had,” said a Mesa, Arizona, police officer, who is white. CBS News agreed to hide the faces and alter the voices of two white officers from the district so that they could speak freely.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:34:24am

Thread, four tweets, on the New York Times citing a lying Prager U video in its coverage of the Charlottesville rampage of Nazis;

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:41:23am

re: #569 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Hey, John Voight:

Arizona police slam racial bias training: “Absolute worst training I’ve ever had” (CBS, with video, 7:15)

“Don’t get caught because it is embarrassing”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:42:56am

Atlas V AEHF-5 Live Launch Broadcast

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:52:46am

It Is False To Claim the Counterintelligence Investigation into Trump Is Unprecedented (goes to emptywheel)

The question [by Senator Josh Hawley], as framed, is totally bullshit, and Democratic members of Congress should stop letting their colleagues frame what happened to Donald Trump in such a way.

The proper question is, is there precedent that a counterintelligence investigation was opened into a major party candidate (distinguishing from Eugene Debs, into whom I’m sure there was a standing counterintelligence investigation through his presidential runs).

And the answer to that is simple. The precedent is Hillary Clinton.

In 2016, there was a counterintelligence investigation touching on both the Democratic and Republican candidates for President. The one into the Democrat was public. FBI managed it in ways, twice, that had an impact on the race. In addition to that CI investigation, there was also an investigation — predicated in part on oppo research from the Republican party — that involved the candidate’s interactions with foreign leaders. The latter investigation, into the Clinton Foundation, leaked. It leaked so egregiously that the Deputy Director of the FBI was fired for the leak.

(more)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:53:41am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:56:30am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:02:24am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:04:20am

New T-0 of 6:13 AM EDT

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Ming5000  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:12:30am

ulalaunch.com

live feed

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Ming5000  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:27:37am

Robert Kelly has a thread. Kelly is a Political Science Professor (Professor of Political Science; Pusan Nat’l Uni) who first came on my radar when his daughter barged into the room while Kelly was doing a BBC interview. And, Mom slide into the room to extricate her. Cute.
But this thread is a nice clarifying summary.

“We never need to take moralistic arguments from religious conservatives seriously again. They’re just another interest group now, with no principled belief in elevating our debased politics.”

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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:36:21am

re: #579 Ming5000

Excellent evaluation…..

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:54:07am

I’m off to bed. Catch y’all later.

(0:57)

Pillow Talk (1959) The End + closing credits

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:01:06am

PS: There are more Jims in Congress than GOP women seeking reëlection.

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Chrysicat  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:47:37am

re: #562 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Another racist weighs in:

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:50:52am

Found this O_o

First look: Cate Blanchett as Phyllis Schlafly in ‘Mrs. America’ on FX

The fight for passage of the ERA (Equal Rights Amendment) will be the subject of the forthcoming FX limited series “Mrs. America.”

Oscar winner Cate Blanchett makes her American TV series debut as Phyllis Schlafly, who led the backlash against the proposed constitutional amendment.

Through the eyes of Schlafly and feminists such as Gloria Steinem (Rose Byrne), Bella Abzug (Margo Martindale) and Betty Friedan (Tracey Ullman), the series explores how this political battleground gave rise to the Moral Majority.
The series co-stars Emmy winner Uzo Aduba (“Orange Is the New Black”), Elizabeth Banks (“The Hunger Games”) and John Slattery (“Mad Men”).

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:51:55am

re: #583 Chrysicat

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Racism wasn’t solved before 2008. Anyone who thinks that is a fucking moron. And if racism was inflamed after 2008, it’s on those who couldn’t accept Obama’s legitimacy as an American. Man I’m so sick of these revisionist liars. Tell anyone who got mistaken for Muslim after 9/11 that racism was “solved” before 2008 or John McCain’s daughter Bridget that.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:52:34am

re: #584 Amory Blaine

Found this O_o

First look: Cate Blanchett as Phyllis Schlafly in ‘Mrs. America’ on FX

That sounds interesting.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:53:06am

re: #586 HappyWarrior

Yes it does.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:54:17am

Obama’s election really brought out their true colors.

They could have cited him as living proof of their Conservative American Dream: that anyone, regardless of race or social origins, who works hard enough can aspire to the highest office in the land. Instead, they derided him as a Kenyan Muslim Affirmative Action Manchurian Candidate who bought the office by offering Free Stuff to moochers.

Because anything else would have meant acknowledging his accomplishments, no matter how begrudgingly, and they just could not bring themselves to do so.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:54:32am

re: #587 Amory Blaine

Yes it does.

Great cast too.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:55:42am

re: #584 Amory Blaine

Found this O_o

First look: Cate Blanchett as Phyllis Schlafly in ‘Mrs. America’ on FX

Impeachment is being made under the American Crime Story franchise? Seriously? Ryan Murphy, WTF?

“Mrs. America” is filming in Toronto and will air in the spring of 2020. The Blanchett series is one of an ambitious slate for FX beginning next year. The network’s high-profile programming also will include the next installment of the “American Crime Story” franchise.

Titled “Impeachment,” that limited-run series will chronicle the fallout of the Clinton-Lewinsky cigar scandal that rocked the White House in the 1990s. Stars include Beanie Feldstein (“Booksmart”) as Lewinsky, Sarah Paulson as Linda Tripp (John Goodman was unavailable?) and Annaleigh Ashford as Paula Jones.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:56:24am

re: #588 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Obama’s election really brought out their true colors.

They could have cited him as living proof of their Conservative American Dream: that anyone, regardless of race or social origins, who works hard enough can aspire to the highest office in the land. Instead, they derided him as a Kenyan Muslim Affirmative Action Manchurian Candidate who bought the office by offering Free Stuff to moochers.

Because anything else would have meant acknowledging his accomplishments, no matter how begrudgingly, and they just could not bring themselves to do so.

Every GOP nominee of my life except Bob Dole has been a product of privilege. Giving credit to Obama would mean acknowledging their own privileges as scions of the elite.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:59:56am

The Independent runs a stark article:

To make Brexit happen, Boris needs to work with the Eurocrats he’s insulted. Fat chance they’ll help him now

[…] There simply isn’t time to hurl ourselves into the arms of a toxic Trump deal. And we haven’t even mentioned the extremely important, and unresolved, issue of the Irish border yet…

[…]

I think that part needs a hyphen, for I know not whether it should be “toxic Trump-deal” or “toxic-Trump deal”.

The article so far has only one comment:

Benjamin Barrett
23 minutes ago
USA. Has a vested interest in breaking up Europe.Trump can then invest in U.k.Farming/Agriculture and flood the market with chemical injected beef/chlorinated chicken. The 18th. Century Reesmog says he has eaten this in Australia and has no problem! The E.U.has higher standards/controls.

Of all the things in this world, and of all the things that Brexit will mean for the UK, I have no idea how chlorinated chicken rose to the top of the concerns.

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Chrysicat  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:03:49am

re: #585 HappyWarrior

Racism wasn’t solved before 2008. Anyone who thinks that is a fucking moron. And if racism was inflamed after 2008, it’s on those who couldn’t accept Obama’s legitimacy as an American. Man I’m so sick of these revisionist liars. Tell anyone who got mistaken for Muslim after 9/11 that racism was “solved” before 2008 or John McCain’s daughter Bridget that.

I’m totally understanding of this. I’m blonde and blue-eyed with an Angelina accent.

I’m also the proud owner of a name that ends in “-aba” (well, actually, “-baba”) despite probably not having any ancestors in the past 10 centuries who hailed from any further east than Kyiv, and no, I didn’t marry into it either.

One of the last jobs I held down was incoming CS for the Postal Service (the semi-governmental company, not the band), and one customer, having already escalated herself enough to demand my name (and yes, we were still to give first and last in those days), started blaming me personally for 9/11 for being allowed in the country. I keep telling my family that it’s likely to get dangerous for anyone who sees our last name but doesn’t see our faces, partly because of that experience in the spring of 2003.

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Chrysicat  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:05:35am

re: #592 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Independent runs a stark article:

To make Brexit happen, Boris needs to work with the Eurocrats he’s insulted. Fat chance they’ll help him now

I think that part needs a hyphen, for I know not whether it should be “toxic Trump-deal” or “toxic-Trump deal”.

The article so far has only one comment:

Of all the things in this world, and of all the things that Brexit will mean for the UK, I have no idea how chlorinated chicken rose to the top of the concerns.

Largely because it’s literally an “only in America” thing. Even China, home of melamine-contaminated pet food, has a rule that if chicken doesn’t smell perfect coming off the line, it gets tossed, not “sterilised” and shipped.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:07:07am

re: #593 Chrysicat

I’m totally understanding of this. I’m blonde and blue-eyed with an Angelina accent.

I’m also the proud owner of a name that ends in “-aba” (well, actually, “-baba”) despite probably not having any ancestors in the past 10 centuries who hailed from any further east than Kyiv, and no, I didn’t marry into it either.

One of the last jobs I held down was incoming CS for the Postal Service (the semi-governmental company, not the band), and one customer, having already escalated herself enough to demand my name (and yes, we were still to give first and last in those days), started blaming me personally for 9/11 for being allowed in the country. I keep telling my family that it’s likely to get dangerous for anyone who sees our last name but doesn’t see our faces, partly because of that experience in the spring of 2003.

I’m so sorry. It’s awfuk. I’ve never experienced hardships due to my surname and ethnic background.

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Chrysicat  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:10:36am

re: #583 Chrysicat

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And in passing, he was serious. He responded with an open response to mine—not even a DM—calling me a degenerate furry and telling me to report whatever I want.

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Chrysicat  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:20:25am

re: #595 HappyWarrior

I’m so sorry. It’s awfuk. I’ve never experienced hardships due to my surname and ethnic background.

Eh, it’s no big. I haven’t put out a resumé since before 9-11 for more than temp-jobs-that-were-intended-to-be-temp-jobs, and so far as I know neither my mother (who looks Mediterranean despite being almost entirely descended from Brits with a couple Northern French thrown in) nor my sister has ever had theirs put aside because their name flagged the HR person’s bigotry.

It’s a lot worse for actual Muslims than perceived-by-the-name “ones” and even I only see a mimeographed copy of a Kodachrome original when it comes to that type of thing. At least unless someone letterbombs us someday by the name in the phone book.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:30:19am

re: #591 HappyWarrior

Every GOP nominee of my life except Bob Dole has been a product of privilege. Giving credit to Obama would mean acknowledging their own privileges as scions of the elite.

Even Gore and Kerry came from privileged families. But yeah, the whole conservative argument for abolishing government aid and education programs is that they are not needed, we have overcome racism and social discrimination, America is all about bootstrapping and burning the midnight oil, etc.

But when it really happens, they refuse to accept it.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:36:25am

re: #585 HappyWarrior

Racism wasn’t solved before 2008. Anyone who thinks that is a fucking moron. And if racism was inflamed after 2008, it’s on those who couldn’t accept Obama’s legitimacy as an American. Man I’m so sick of these revisionist liars. Tell anyone who got mistaken for Muslim after 9/11 that racism was “solved” before 2008 or John McCain’s daughter Bridget that.

What happened was all too simple. A black man was elected as President, not just once, but twice.

And this broke the brains of a good many white Americans, because it directly challenged their unspoken - and unquestioning - belief in white supremacy.

Those folks went straight out of their minds…..and the election of Donald Trump was the backlash, their revenge on an America they felt had betrayed them.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:52:48am

This is pretty funny shit, because it highlights the absurdity of the white open carry privilege. hend amry (@LibyaLiberty) Tweeted:
Now what if I was wearing this. What would happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:59:12am

If there were a mass shooting, I would feel safer because he is obviously a Good Guy with a Gun, he is obviously trained to react in such active shooter situations and any police arriving on the scene would immediately recognize the fact.

I would place myself directly behind him so that his Second Amendment juju would also fall on me and keep me safe from terrorists, drug dealers and rapists.

/

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:01:48am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. We awake this morning to learn that Trump’s still a fucking racist and stochastic terrorist and there are GOPers who are willing to fundraise for him so long as they get their tax breaks (Stephen Ross, we’re looking at your sorry ass). The entire GOP is willing to throw what few morals and ethics they had out the window to get more tax breaks on the backs of those least able to endure them.

It’s the GOP mantra.

They wont do anything about gun violence either. They’re beholden to the corrupt and compromised NRA. It’s who they are, where they get their money, and #MoscowMitch wont bring gun control to the floor.

re: #517 gocart mozart

As I called it above, Trump’s welcome in El Paso was not what Trump or his advisers were hoping for. No one wanted to meet with him. None.

Trump is a stochastic terrorist who enabled and condoned white supremacist/right wing domestic terrorists to carry out their violent fantasies of race wars and attacking minorities and immigrants.

On the same day, Trump’s pushing more lies by claiming that he’s for securing the border and tightening up immigration policy, which so far has meant trying to stop asylum by nonwhites and to prevent nonwhites from entering the US. The very policy is white nationalist/racist in action.

It’s the very core of what Trump is all about.

Racism and misogyny are what animates everything he does when he’s not looking for angle to profit from. Even his pardon policy is about how he can benefit.

Trump thinks Jared has a point about pardoning Blago as convincing Democrats? Who does he think he’s kidding. All of Trump’s pardons so far are entirely political in nature and not on the merits. All of them. He thinks those pardons somehow helps him win over some segment of his base or appeals to minorities (think of Jack Johnson and the Alice Marie Johnson).

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:02:30am

To me, this is the problem:

I have been to Iowa. Iowa doesn’t have to worry about a mass shooting targeting minorities. The Texas state fair I can see, but Iowa, no. The reason I say this is a problem is that white people are instinctively going into “I’m scared” mode even though they’re not the targets. They need to think about the reasons and who actually is the target.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:04:20am
“EL PASO — On a day when President Trump vowed to tone down his rhetoric and help the country heal following two mass slayings, he did the opposite — lacing his visits Wednesday to El Paso and Dayton, Ohio, with a flurry of attacks on local leaders and memorializing his trips with grinning thumbs-up photos.

None of the eight patients still being treated at University Medical Center in El Paso agreed to meet with Trump when he visited the hospital, UMC spokesman Ryan Mielke said. Two victims who already had been discharged returned to the hospital with family members to meet with the president.

“This is a very sensitive time in their lives,” Mielke said. “Some of them said they didn’t want to meet with the president. Some of them didn’t want any visitors.”

Before Trump’s visit Wednesday, however, some of the hospitalized victims accepted visits from a number of city and county elected officials, as well as Reps. Veronica Escobar (D-Tex.) and Jesús “Chuy” García (D-Ill.).”

washingtonpost.com

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:07:56am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:08:12am
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Ming5000  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:08:38am

re: #604 Belafon

I am seeing some twitter activity asking about people in the staged photos. Are they even hospital staff?
Sounds like wild conspiracy theory. However, with Trump it could be true.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:08:46am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:11:34am

re: #605 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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Ah, the Fox News “vacation”. With any luck, it’ll be like Bill O’Reilly’s vacation.

A permanent vacation

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:12:57am

re: #609 Dr Lizardo

Ah, the Fox News “vacation”. With any luck, it’ll be like Bill O’Reilly’s vacation.

A permanent vacation

Unlikely, not for mere racism. Its the Fox News brand.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:17:25am

re: #600 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:22:57am

READ THIS THREAD.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:24:46am

re: #611 Belafon

Ding.

I’d go further.

Bang. Now I have your gun.

Bad guys with guns nearly always have the initiative. Heck, cops responded in Dayton and engaged the shooter within 30 seconds. 9 people were still murdered with dozens more hurt.

That’s the entire point of these weapons. Mass killing. Slinging one over your shoulder as a talisman doesn’t protect you or anyone else. If anything, you make yourself a target for the bad guy with a gun since your gun could become their gun to continue their murderous rampage.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:26:11am

re: #607 Ming5000

I am seeing some twitter activity asking about people in the staged photos. Are they even hospital staff?
Sounds like wild conspiracy theory. However, with Trump it could be true.

Hard to say. I wouldn’t put much too it, though, because there are plenty of white Trump supporters. And there will be plenty of white people who will do the nice thing, which is part of the problem.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:29:38am

re: #602 lawhawk

Jared has no clue what Democrats think of Rod.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:32:49am

re: #615 Belafon

Jared has no clue what Democrats think of Rod.

FTFY

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:33:16am

re: #609 Dr Lizardo

Ah, the Fox News “vacation”. With any luck, it’ll be like Bill O’Reilly’s vacation.

A permanent vacation

Only if his advertisers have fled like rats from a sinking ship.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:39:31am

re: #569 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Hey, John Voight:

Arizona police slam racial bias training: “Absolute worst training I’ve ever had” (CBS, with video, 7:15)

(more)

White police officers: We’re such victims being told that blacks feel like victims from birth!

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:42:00am

re: #609 Dr Lizardo

Aerosmith - Permanent Vacation (Live)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:46:15am

From BBC

US immigration: ICE arrests nearly 700 people in Mississippi raids

The raids were carried out by hundreds of ICE agents
US immigration officials have arrested almost 700 people after a series of raids in the state of Mississippi.

The co-ordinated operations targeted workers at seven agricultural processing plants who allegedly did not have proper documentation.

I read through the entire article and found no mention of whether the processing plants were subject to any consequences for employing undocumented workers.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:46:56am

re: #620 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

From BBC

US immigration: ICE arrests nearly 700 people in Mississippi raids

The raids were carried out by hundreds of ICE agents
US immigration officials have arrested almost 700 people after a series of raids in the state of Mississippi.

The co-ordinated operations targeted workers at seven agricultural processing plants who allegedly did not have proper documentation.

I read through the entire article and found no mention of whether the processing plants were subject to any consequences for employing undocumented workers.

Why? They’re in the white.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:48:58am

re: #619 lawhawk

While I wouldn’t mind seeing Tucker take a permanent vacation, I know iẗ́s not likely to happen, unless his advertisers are fleeing his program in droves.

But even then, sadly, I’m sure there’s some he’d continue polluting the airwaves. Look at Rush Limbaugh; from what I gather, he doesn’t have too many commercial sponsors left, certainly nowhere hear as many as he had in his heyday about 20 years ago or so.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:59:30am
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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:04:38am

What the hell…

The 33-year-old Garden Grove man was taken into custody after he came out of a 7-Eleven in Santa Ana, southeast of Los Angeles, and dropped a knife along with a handgun that he had taken from a guard, police said.

The violence appeared to be random and the only known motives seem to be “robbery, hate, homicide,” Garden Grove police Lt. Carl Whitney said at a news conference.

“We know this guy was full of anger and he harmed a lot of people tonight,” he said.

The suspect and all the victims were Hispanic, he added.
apnews.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:05:39am

re: #621 lawhawk

Why? They’re in the white.

Trump is not going to come down too hard on businesses who do the same thing his organization does when hiring hotel and resort staff…

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Old Liberal  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:08:48am

re: #585 HappyWarrior

Racism wasn’t solved before 2008. Anyone who thinks that is a fucking moron. And if racism was inflamed after 2008, it’s on those who couldn’t accept Obama’s legitimacy as an American. Man I’m so sick of these revisionist liars. Tell anyone who got mistaken for Muslim after 9/11 that racism was “solved” before 2008 or John McCain’s daughter Bridget that.

“Here we was good enough to let a n-word be president and he refused to say that we wasn’t racists. That’s divisive. He should be like the other colored we let in cause they tell minorities its their own fault.”

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:13:03am

8/8—hope there are no shenanigans today.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:13:41am

I should write the police sensitivity training. I would start with the statistics on how often minorities are stopped, searched, and arrested vs whites, and then start with stats on shootings by police.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:14:02am

We need a new thread. Hamsters are wheezing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:15:36am

re: #600 NO SMOCKING GUN!

This is pretty funny shit, because it highlights the absurdity of the white open carry privilege. hend amry (@LibyaLiberty) Tweeted:
Now what if I was wearing this. What would happen.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:18:37am

re: #620 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s Mississippi….. They all voted for Trump. Every one of them.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:19:03am

re: #602 lawhawk

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Teddy's Person  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:20:20am

re: #630 Joe Bacon 🌹

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History would suggest gun control measures get passed right away.

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Old Liberal  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:21:30am

re: #630 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Sykes is the poster boy for why we can’t ally with “conservatives “. I will never accept their “values”. Such bullshit. Now show one picture with 10 if these goobers brandishing and one with 10 unarmed goobers and ask which makes you feel safer.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:23:45am

re: #611 Belafon

I’m not the quickest guy at times, but I just realized that the very fact that a picture could be taken of him means he would have already been shot by someone wanting to actually kill.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:24:17am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:28:28am

re: #636 The Pie Overlord!

I see a new defense strategy emerging:

YOUR HONOR, PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD ME TO DO IT! I CAN’T BE EXPECTED TO DISOBEY THE ORDERS OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, CAN I ?!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:30:10am

re: #636 The Pie Overlord!

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Lock him up and put him in the general prison population.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:31:30am

re: #637 Dr Lizardo

I see a new defense strategy emerging:

YOUR HONOR, PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GOING TO PARDON ME ANYWAY, SO WHY PROSECUTE ME?

Bit of a mod. :)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:31:39am

re: #636 The Pie Overlord!

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This really is reminding me of pogrom perpetrators who thought they had the czar’s blessing.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:33:00am

re: #637 Dr Lizardo

I see a new defense strategy emerging:

YOUR HONOR, PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD ME TO DO IT! I CAN’T BE EXPECTED TO DISOBEY THE ORDERS OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, CAN I ?!

It’s scary. I don’t remember people who terrorized Muslims and others after 9/11 thinking Bush was cool with it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:33:43am

re: #635 Belafon

I’m not the quickest guy at times, but I just realized that the very fact that a picture could be taken of him means he would have already been shot by someone wanting to actually kill.

Idiots like this will be the first targets. And then the criminal will have his guns too.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:34:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:34:50am

re: #636 The Pie Overlord!

The guy who assaulted a child for “disrespecting” the national anthem said he thought Trump wanted him to do it

A definition of “stochiastic terrorism” could simply consist of a photo of that fellow, one of Trump and respective quotes from each.

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Old Liberal  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:36:01am

re: #635 Belafon

I’m not the quickest guy at times, but I just realized that the very fact that a picture could be taken of him means he would have already been shot by someone wanting to actually kill.

Plus the fucker could swing that thing around and start killing within two seconds. Safer my ass.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:37:29am

re: #642 GlutenFreeJesus

Idiots like this will be the first targets. And then the criminal will have his guns too.

Exactly but they think they’re bad ass vilgiantes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:39:49am

Need some good news and it came in the form of Danny coming to the rescue of a baby trapped in a car.

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Old Liberal  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:40:23am

re: #642 GlutenFreeJesus

Idiots like this will be the first targets. And then the criminal will have his guns too.

Oh, but he will walk out the door coffee in hand, encounter instantaneous gunfire, immediately correctly assess who is good guy who is bad, assess positions of all innocents in the background, and start spraying bullets to save the day. Yeah. Big fucking hero.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:46:12am

re: #579 Ming5000

That’s a must read thread.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:49:12am

Wait, you mean Team Mitch didn’t get suspended for their tombstones pic?

Twitter suspended Senate Majority leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-KY) reelection campaign on Wednesday after the “Team Mitch” account posted a video of a protester cursing the senator’s “raggedy, wrinkled-ass neck.”

Twitter is taking it’s cues from Hollywood where bad words are some how worse than violent images. In the Veronica Mars reboot, Hulu refused to allow the show to drop any f-bombs but were okay with the show depicting two beheadings and 3 severed heads.

Edit: Link

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:50:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:52:00am

re: #650 Teddy’s Person

Wait, you mean Team Mitch didn’t get suspended for their tombstones pic?

Twitter is taking it’s cues from Hollywood where bad words are some how worse than violent images. In the Veronica Mars reboot, Hulu refused to allow the show to drop any f-bombs but were okay with the show depicting two beheadings and 3 severed heads.

I recall George Carlin’s monologue about taking a typical western and replacing the world “kill” with the world “fuck”.

“We’re gonna fuck you sheriff!”
“Yeah, he fucked my little brother!”
“Let’s tie him up to that tree and fuck him real slow!”

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Stanley Sea  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:53:33am
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DodgerFan1988  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:53:35am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:53:42am

re: #651 lawhawk

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Wait. A radiation spike? From a rocket engine blast?

That seems, to this layman and non-rocket scientist…..well, sort of unusual.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:55:31am

re: #655 Dr Lizardo

Wait. A radiation spike? From a rocket engine blast?

That seems, to this layman and non-rocket scientist…..well, sort of unusual.

Attempted rocket surgery.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:55:57am

re: #655 Dr Lizardo

Wait. A radiation spike? From a rocket engine blast?

That seems, to this layman and non-rocket scientist…..well, sort of unusual.

Remember Putil revealed that nuclear-powered cruise missile they were working on.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:56:04am

re: #653 Stanley Sea

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They don’t like being called white supremacists but they act it.

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Old Liberal  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:59:13am

re: #650 Teddy’s Person

Wait, you mean Team Mitch didn’t get suspended for their tombstones pic?

Twitter is taking it’s cues from Hollywood where bad words are some how worse than violent images. In the Veronica Mars reboot, Hulu refused to allow the show to drop any f-bombs but were okay with the show depicting two beheadings and 3 severed heads.

Edit: Link

That really sums up what a puritanical violent culture we have.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:59:23am

re: #657 Rightwingconspirator

Remember Putil revealed that nuclear-powered cruise missile they were working on.

I dimly recall reading about a US Cold War project along those lines. A nuke-powered cruise missile that after dropping its payload would just cruise around at low-altitude supersonic speed over Russia, spewing lethal radiation wherever it went and killing people with the supersonic shockwave.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:01:58am

re: #660 Dr Lizardo

This time it’s them.
express.co.uk

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Kilroy was here  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:02:09am

re: #660 Dr Lizardo

I dimly recall reading about a US Cold War project along those line. A nuke-powered cruise missile that after dropping its payload would just cruise around at low-altitude supersonic speed over Russia, spewing lethal radiation wherever it went and killing people with the supersonic shockwave.

SLAM - America’s Big Stick & Doomsday Weapon

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:03:59am

re: #662 Kilroy was here

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That was it.

Peak Cold War lunacy.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:04:29am

re: #647 Joe Bacon 🌹

Need some good news and it came in the form of Danny coming to the rescue of a baby trapped in a car.

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He’s 75 years old. And he works with special needs kids so he knew how to keep the child calm.

That’s something special right there.

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retired cynic  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:04:55am

re: #562 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Another racist weighs in:

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I wondered by JK Rowling agreed to have him in Fantastic Beasts, but I realize now that he plays a heartless CEO, and that fits him well. Also note that his expression never changes, which I believe to be a sign of neurological disease. Parkinson’s does that, for example.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:05:08am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:06:32am

re: #654 DodgerFan1988

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:08:11am

re: #667 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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White supremacy is mainstream now.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:08:51am

re: #603 Belafon

To me, this is the problem:

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I have been to Iowa. Iowa doesn’t have to worry about a mass shooting targeting minorities. The Texas state fair I can see, but Iowa, no. The reason I say this is a problem is that white people are instinctively going into “I’m scared” mode even though they’re not the targets. They need to think about the reasons and who actually is the target.

A potential shooter in Iowa might have strong views concerning funnel cake. It’s a good thing that everyone think of themselves as potential targets. They are (MGM, Sandy Hook) and that awareness might finally inspire some action.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:11:04am

re: #668 HappyWarrior

White supremacy is mainstream now.

It always was, it just seemed that we had made more progress.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:16:52am

re: #670 Decatur Deb

It always was, it just seemed that we had made more progress.

It’s worse now than when I was younger. I agree a lot of progress was deceptive but things are definitely worse now then they were 20 years ago.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:17:20am

re: #655 Dr Lizardo

Wait. A radiation spike? From a rocket engine blast?

That seems, to this layman and non-rocket scientist…..well, sort of unusual.

Nothing about this seems to make sense, not when there are reports that the Russian authorities told people living nearby to ingest iodine pills, which would suggest that whatever exploded included radioactive iodine 131.

Maybe they were testing something and had radioactive markers involved, but the odds we’ll know what it was are nonexistent. Odds are also high that it’s more serious than they’re letting on.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:19:54am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:21:41am

re: #673 Patricia Kayden

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He’s a racist. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional or lying to themselves.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:23:13am

This is a perfect metaphor of all the Trump supporters. I’ll bet this person ACTUALLY IS a Trump supporter.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:23:18am

re: #630 Joe Bacon 🌹

Rhetorical question; No? Do what Ronnie-raygun did and pass laws. Though now they will probably be crafted to be color specific.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:23:54am

re: #671 HappyWarrior

It’s worse now than when I was younger. I agree a lot of progress was deceptive but things are definitely worse now then they were 20 years ago.

It is, and it’s dangerous, but it really seems to me that is of the “dangerous wounded animal” or the “huband throwing a tantrum to get out of trouble” type of action. It’s compounded by the person in charge, but they need us to back down to win and they’re trying to set it up so that we’ll agree to return to “normal” times of white men being in charge just because.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:24:51am

re: #641 HappyWarrior

It’s scary. I don’t remember people who terrorized Muslims and others after 9/11 thinking Bush was cool with it.

Sorry, not sorry. Gonna keep repaying this for quite awhile.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:27:01am

re: #672 lawhawk

Nothing about this seems to make sense, not when there are reports that the Russian authorities told people living nearby to ingest iodine pills, which would suggest that whatever exploded included radioactive iodine 131.

Maybe they were testing something and had radioactive markers involved, but the odds we’ll know what it was are nonexistent. Odds are also high that it’s more serious than they’re letting on.

Yep - unless we find out through a defector or spy, we’ll probably never know exactly what happened.

Looks like the Russians learned all the wrong lessons of the Chernobyl disaster. Instead of being upfront and honest, they’ve become more secretive than ever.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:27:29am

re: #677 Belafon

[…]

they’re trying to set it up so that we’ll agree to return to “normal” times of white men being in charge just because.

Even if there was some ‘agreement’, demographics will win.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:27:37am

re: #678 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Sorry, not sorry. Gonna keep repaying this for quite awhile.

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You’re good. He is that.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:28:32am

re: #680 wrenchwench

Even if there was some ‘agreement’, demographics will win.

I hope so but as demographics change, the more the R’s and right will try to create an apartheid like state.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:28:51am

Teh Fuck??

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:28:53am

re: #671 HappyWarrior

It’s worse now than when I was younger. I agree a lot of progress was deceptive but things are definitely worse now then they were 20 years ago.

In 1997 for the first time ever Alabama executed a white man for a lynching. It is horrible to watch young people tell Black civil rights fighters of my generation that there has been no progress. And it happens a lot.

en.wikipedia.org

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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:30:28am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:31:08am

re: #684 Decatur Deb

In 1997 for the first time ever Alabama executed a white man for a lynching. It is horrible to watch young people tell Black civil rights fighters of my generation that there has been no progress. And it happens a lot.

en.wikipedia.org

I’m not saying there’s been no progress but there’s no denying there’s been some ugly regression too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:33:02am

re: #641 HappyWarrior

It’s scary. I don’t remember people who terrorized Muslims and others after 9/11 thinking Bush was cool with it.

I seem to recall that Bush made clear statements not to blame Islam as a whole, something I had to admire him for, but the entire media atmosphere was very overcharged.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:33:41am

re: #682 HappyWarrior

I hope so but as demographics change, the more the R’s and right will try to create an apartheid like state.

Which is why, as frightening as it may become, we have to stick together and stand up to them.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:34:10am

re: #687 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I seem to recall that Bush made clear statements not to blame Islam as a whole, something I had to admire him for, but the entire media atmosphere was very overcharged.

For all his faults and he had them, W was clear that Muslim people weren’t our enemies.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:34:25am

re: #688 Belafon

Which is why, as frightening as it may become, we have to stick together and stand up to them.

Exactly

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:34:34am

re: #682 HappyWarrior

I hope so but as demographics change, the more the R’s and right will try to create an apartheid like state.

The reactions have recently turned to desperation. They’re dangerous. It may be dangerous for me to think they’re getting weaker. The demographics don’t need a bloody revolution to win. They could be pushed into delivering one, though.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:35:56am

re: #688 Belafon

Which is why, as frightening as it may become, we have to stick together and stand up to them.

The “sticking together” is getting to be the hard part. They know where to put the wedges, and it works.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:35:58am

re: #686 HappyWarrior

I’m not saying there’s been no progress but there’s no denying there’s been some ugly regression too.

None of the progress that we have made in personal freedoms, women’s, minority or LGBT rights has come about with a lot of active work, and there are a lot of people, many of whom are now in influential places working to make it all retroactive.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:37:14am

re: #683 Dave In Austin

Teh Fuck??

Twitter’s blocking algorithm is messed up. But the video wasn’t a threat to cause him harm, it was a wish for an outcome. The protester could have been a bit more subtle, something along the lines of “I wish the groud had come up to meet him more forecefully” but it wasn’t the kind of threat they’re trying to make it out to be.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:38:41am

re: #692 Decatur Deb

The “sticking together” is getting to be the hard part. They know where to put the wedges, and it works.

It is, because we didn’t expect to have to do this. But we don’t have much choice.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:39:12am

re: #693 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

None of the progress that we have made in personal freedoms, women’s, minority or LGBT rights has come about with a lot of active work, and there are a lot of people, many of whom are now in influential places working to make it all retroactive.

Right. What’s frustrating to me is there has been progress and there’s an organized movement to erase that progress made since 1933. Meanwhile you’ve got the left who has elements who are too busy fighting a purity pissing contests to realize that.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:41:51am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:42:27am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:44:23am

re: #696 HappyWarrior

Right. What’s frustrating to me is there has been progress and there’s an organized movement to erase that progress made since 1933. Meanwhile you’ve got the left who has elements who are too busy fighting a purity pissing contests to realize that.

These days it would be good practice to take a very hard look at anyone who tries to put a shiv into a potential ally.

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lizardofid  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:45:14am

re: #692 Decatur Deb

The “sticking together” is getting to be the hard part. They know where to put the wedges, and it works.

indeed.

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:48:20am

re: #550 Joe Bacon 🌹

No doubt about it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:49:32am

700 plus comments. Wow. Biggest thread I’ve seen in awhile.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:49:36am

re: #699 Decatur Deb

These days it would be good practice to take a very hard look at anyone who tries to put a shiv into a potential ally.

Including those who say they believe in putting a shiv in each side.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:51:06am

re: #699 Decatur Deb

These days it would be good practice to take a very hard look at anyone who tries to put a shiv into a potential ally.

I do try not to be too hard on allies but I do think sometimes criticism is merited. I’m voting for the nominee and campaigning.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:52:05am

re: #698 The Pie Overlord!

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He’s such a miserable little hack. He’s yet another fake gun asshole.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:53:42am

re: #702 Eclectic Cyborg

700 plus comments. Wow. Biggest thread I’ve seen in awhile.

The hamsters canna’ take any more, Cap’n!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:53:59am

re: #704 HappyWarrior

I do try not to be too hard on allies but I do think sometimes criticism is merited. I’m voting for the nominee and campaigning.

There are plenty of fascists to criticise, and plenty of them to satisfy all our need for criticism.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:54:48am

re: #705 HappyWarrior

He’s such a miserable little hack. He’s yet another fake gun asshole.

Benjy needs that sweet sweet Wingnut Welfare Money from the Tiny Penis Club. So he will lie any lie for them!

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:54:49am

hi ho, boys and girls

is the ship still afloat this morning?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:55:18am

re: #707 Decatur Deb

There are plenty of fascists to criticise, and plenty of them to satisfy all our need for criticism.

Fair but when I see someone making the mistakes that made the fascists rise possible, I’m not going to shut up.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:56:08am

re: #708 Joe Bacon 🌹

Benjy needs that sweet sweet Wingnut Welfare Money from the Tiny Penis Club. So he will lie any lie for them!

I’m so sick of people like him. His whole act is bullshit.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:56:23am

re: #704 HappyWarrior

I do try not to be too hard on allies but I do think sometimes criticism is merited. I’m voting for the nominee and campaigning.

I have no problem letting it all out on Marianne Williamson. I try not to criticize Biden as much as I want to, because we are more likely end up with him. She’s no ally. He is.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:56:51am

re: #613 lawhawk

Ding.

I’d go further.

Bang. Now I have your gun.

Bad guys with guns nearly always have the initiative. Heck, cops responded in Dayton and engaged the shooter within 30 seconds. 9 people were still murdered with dozens more hurt.

That’s the entire point of these weapons. Mass killing. Slinging one over your shoulder as a talisman doesn’t protect you or anyone else. If anything, you make yourself a target for the bad guy with a gun since your gun could become their gun to continue their murderous rampage.

Doesn’t even need to be a “bang”. Just a sucker punch.

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lizardofid  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:57:18am

re: #707 Decatur Deb

There are plenty of fascists to criticise, and plenty of them to satisfy all our need for criticism.

And let our candidates bludgeon each other with a barrage of ideas.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:57:24am

re: #648 Old Liberal

Oh, but he will walk out the door coffee in hand, encounter instantaneous gunfire, immediately correctly assess who is good guy who is bad, assess positions of all innocents in the background, and start spraying bullets to save the day. Yeah. Big fucking hero.

Or, just drop the cup of coffee and run for their life.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:57:31am

re: #712 wrenchwench

I have no problem letting it all out on Marianne Williamson. I try not to criticize Biden as much as I want to, because we are more likely end up with him. She’s no ally. He is.

Yes. That’s true too.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:58:15am

re: #712 wrenchwench

I have no problem letting it all out on Marianne Williamson. I try not to criticize Biden as much as I want to, because we are more likely end up with him. She’s no ally. He is.

I like to think of her as the family pet.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:58:16am

re: #712 wrenchwench

I have no problem letting it all out on Marianne Williamson. I try not to criticize Biden as much as I want to, because we are more likely end up with him. She’s no ally. He is.

if she was presidential material she’d have thought up and given the speech biden did

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:59:17am

re: #711 HappyWarrior

I’m so sick of people like him. His whole act is bullshit.

Ask posted before, I put Benjyboy in the same basket as Mikey Savage Weiner, Dennis Prager and Steven Miller.

They are all deluded enough to believe that Richard Spencer and his thugs won’t put them in concentration camps.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 8:59:47am

Brace yourselves - I sense a Tweetstorm coming from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue:

Investigators targeting President Trump’s financial and business history may have found a way around the White House’s blocking of congressional subpoenas, according to a Wall Street Journal report.

Banks have been handing over thousands of pages of documents related to business ties between Russians and Trump to congressional committees investigating the President, while other banks have been producing information to New York state investigators probing the Trump org.

Letitia James - New York’s attorney general - has reportedly gotten information about loans to the Trump org, potentially offering a tantalizing view of the notoriously opaque group’s financial makeup.

A joint investigation by the House Financial Services and Intelligence committees hit a roadblock in May after Trump sued to block subpoenas issued to two of his longtime lenders - Deutsche Bank and Capital One. Those subpoenas targeted information on the financial history of Trump himself, that of his immediate family, and of his closely held business entities.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:00:05am

re: #717 Decatur Deb

I like to think of her as the family pet.

The family pet is as part of the family as anyone else. Marianne isn’t part of the family. Biden? It’s like when I give my Dad hell for smoking. I do it not out of contempt but love.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:01:47am

re: #602 lawhawk

…
Trump thinks Jared has a point about pardoning Blago as convincing Democrats? Who does he think he’s kidding. All of Trump’s pardons so far are entirely political in nature and not on the merits. All of them. He thinks those pardons somehow helps him win over some segment of his base or appeals to minorities (think of Jack Johnson and the Alice Marie Johnson).

Blago is an imbecile but not evil or cruel; an acquaintance of mine (a FOAF) was one of his top economic advisers and always thought his heart was in the right place (just not his mind). It’s ridiculous that he was sentenced to more time than our last criminal governor George Ryan who was involved in a financial corruption scheme while he was Secretary of State that led to the death of six children when an unqualified man received a truck driver’s license.

He should be released.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:03:19am

re: #720 Dr Lizardo

Brace yourselves - I sense a Tweetstorm coming from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue:

talkingpointsmemo.com

So what trash will he have to say about AG James I wonder. I’ll guess. Low IQ, presidential harassment, etc.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:03:24am

re: #718 DangerMan

if she was presidential material she’d have thought up and given the speech biden did

Knowing Pulpit Pimp Marianne as I do based on my distasteful encounters with that crook she would tell victims of violence to let the angel come out of the darkness.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:03:40am
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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:04:12am

re: #721 HappyWarrior

The family pet is as part of the family as anyone else. Marianne isn’t part of the family. Biden? It’s like when I give my Dad hell for smoking. I do it not out of contempt but love.

Extended family. They can have the porch on the big tent.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:04:27am

re: #721 HappyWarrior

The family pet is as part of the family as anyone else. Marianne isn’t part of the family. Biden? It’s like when I give my Dad hell for smoking. I do it not out of contempt but love.

If you say you’re a Democrat, you’re a Democrat. If you say you’re a Christian, you’re a Christian. If you say you’re a Golden Retriever, I might ask to see your papers.

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:04:47am

re: #612 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The most incredible part of that? The review of the plantation tour. JFC

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:05:15am

re: #723 HappyWarrior

So what trash will he have to say about AG James I wonder. I’ll guess. Low IQ, presidential harassment, etc.

She’s a strong black woman.

That’s going to set him off into a racist Tweetstorm!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:07:24am

It will be karmic retribution on steroids when AG James takes down the Tiny Penis Club, Trump and a lot of the GOP!

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:08:41am

re: #725 Patricia Kayden

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Nobody was expecting slavery either, until they were forcibly taken on their tours. History lessons can’t be forced, but they can and have been be hidden. Bring them into the light whenever possible.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:09:11am

re: #725 Patricia Kayden

What she wants to hear is this:

Totally NSFW

Click to Reveal

The Boondocks - Slavery According to Uncle Ruckus

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:10:11am

re: #727 Decatur Deb

If you say you’re a Democrat, you’re a Democrat. If you say you’re a Christian, you’re a Christian. If you say you’re a Golden Retriever, I might ask to see your papers.

not anteater, not cat
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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:14:12am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:16:19am

re: #725 Patricia Kayden

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Too many white people share this view — remember that Roy Moore received an overwhelming majority of votes among the white population. They want to be told about Southern hospitality and the brave soldiers who fought for the Confederacy. Racism is alive and well in the United States.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:16:32am

re: #725 Patricia Kayden

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Ah, she was looking for the Lost Cause version of slavery. Happy slaves. Benevolent masters.

When I was a kid, my parents (both public school teachers) took us to a lot of historical sites, including southern plantations. During the tour, we were expected to listen politely to the tour guide calling slaves servants and whitewashing slavery, but after the tour, mom set us straight

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Mike Lamb  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:16:52am

re: #725 Patricia Kayden

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Why I do declare! This person had the audacity to put troubling, historically accurate thoughts in my beautiful mind! This shall not stand.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:19:32am

re: #725 Patricia Kayden

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The truth really triggers a lot of white people. Yeah my ancestors didn’t own slaves either but that doesn’t change it did happen.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:20:19am

re: #725 Patricia Kayden

Just wait…

HARRIET - Official Trailer [HD] - In Theaters November 1st

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:20:36am

re: #725 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

how dare they tell me how it really was…

and

im on vacation, i shouldnt have to learn anything

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:22:43am

re: #602 lawhawk

The report I heard was that DT is considering commuting his sentence, not pardoning him.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:23:40am

re: #740 DangerMan

how dare they tell me how it really was…

and

im on vacation, i shouldnt have to learn anything

Where’s the wipipo tour where they show us only the wipipo history?

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:27:35am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:28:44am

Llre: #743 jaunte

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If only Ben cared half as much about gun violence as he did transgender people existing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:28:45am

It’s only a matter of time before Ben Shapiro says in public that Nazis are good people.

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:29:48am

Fatuous cynicism, the Ben Shapiro lifestyle.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:30:07am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:31:43am

re: #746 jaunte

Fatuous cynicism, the Ben Shapiro lifestyle.

Must be nice right? I can’t wait for the gigs to dry up when people realize how stale his act is and he has to find a real job.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:31:51am

re: #747 wrenchwench

Leaf mimicking katydid, Cycloptera arcuata #flickr

including imperfections
brilliant!

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jeffreyw  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:32:42am
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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:32:55am

re: #748 HappyWarrior

There’s a RWNJ sucker born every minute.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:33:22am

re: #748 HappyWarrior

Must be nice right? I can’t wait for the gigs to dry up when people realize how stale his act is and he has to find a real job.

When that happens, he will find Jesus and get into the tax-exempt Pulpit Pimp lifestyle.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:33:40am

OMG — So another possible motive for the Dayton murders — Connor Bett’s sibling was a trans man.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:34:01am

re: #751 jaunte

There’s a RWNJ sucker born every minute.

Yep. Ben is just a Millennial Rushbo. As is Tomi Lahren to Coulter.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:34:39am

re: #751 jaunte

There’s a RWNJ sucker born every minute.

Every three minutes, these days. The market is shrinking.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:34:48am

re: #753 Hecuba’s daughter

OMG — So another possible motive for the Dayton murders — Connor Bett’s sibling was a trans man.

So this could have been a hate crime too. Sigh.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:35:18am

Charles finally flipped the desk last nite.
The servers are on their own.
Please speak quietly amongst yourselves until further notice.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:35:21am

re: #698 The Pie Overlord!

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:35:38am

re: #755 wrenchwench

I need to see all the RW scammers in the Octagon for a melee.

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lizardofid  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:35:49am

re: #747 wrenchwench

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He could use a fungicide.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:36:43am

re: #758 gocart mozart

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I really want Ben to go bankrupt financially as he is morally.

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:37:14am

Shapiro shifts to the “no law is perfectly effective, so make no laws at all” argument.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:39:12am

re: #762 jaunte

Except ban and criminalize abortion. That’ll work out just fine.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:39:17am

re: #762 jaunte

Shapiro shifts to the “no law is perfectly effective, so make no laws at all” argument.

And yet then he’s law and order if an immigrant steals a candy bar. He’s a little fraud.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:39:51am

re: #763 lawhawk

Except ban and criminalize abortion. That’ll work out just fine.

And criminalize and ostracize transpeople.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:41:16am

re: #762 jaunte

Shapiro shifts to the “no law is perfectly effective, so make no laws at all” argument.

He’s in the same mold as Steven Miller. He would love to see all people of color expelled from the country. And if they dare try to cross the border he wants guards to follow shoot to kill orders.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:41:28am

re: #765 HappyWarrior

And criminalize and ostracize transpeople.

peak Shapiro is when he told people in Florida that if the seas rise they could just “sell their homes and move.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:42:44am

re: #767 I Would Prefer Not To

peak Shapiro is when he told people in Florida that if the seas rise they could just “sell their homes and move.”

He must have repeatedly listened to Octopus’s Garden as a kid.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:42:54am

re: #767 I Would Prefer Not To

peak Shapiro is when he told people in Florida that if the seas rise they could just “sell their homes and move.”

As I said, it will be a fine day when he actually has to get off his asshole and actually work rather then being an even worse version of Buckley.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:44:10am

Gun laws don’t work. They’re useless. But but let’s severely punish people for a misdemeanor.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:44:33am

re: #767 I Would Prefer Not To

peak Shapiro is when he told people in Florida that if the seas rise they could just “sell their homes and move.”

Ummm…sell their homes to WHO exactly?

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Old Liberal  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:45:26am

re: #770 HappyWarrior

Gun laws don’t work. They’re useless. But but let’s severely punish people for a misdemeanor.

Exactly. No law will perfectly prevent illegal immigration so pass no laws.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:47:20am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:48:23am

I was so angry last night & posting on Twitter is so USELESS so I sent some money to Bend The Arc.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:48:56am

re: #754 HappyWarrior

Yep. Ben is just a Millennial Rushbo. As is Tomi Lahren to Coulter.

limbaugh is much better at it
i despise him

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:49:21am

re: #771 Eclectic Cyborg

Ummm…sell their homes to WHO exactly?

That’s why I always say he’s not as smart as he thinks he is. If you’re fleeing environmental conditions, no one is going to want to buy your home. Dumbass should read up about the Dust Bowl.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:50:02am

re: #775 DangerMan

limbaugh is much better at it
i despise him

True.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:50:57am

re: #771 Eclectic Cyborg

Ummm…sell their homes to WHO exactly?

‘the market’

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:51:07am

re: #773 The Pie Overlord!

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Signed.

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:51:36am

re: #771 Eclectic Cyborg

Ummm…sell their homes to WHO exactly?

LandShark

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:52:43am

re: #771 Eclectic Cyborg

Ummm…sell their homes to WHO exactly?

Patrick and Sponge Bob.

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:55:34am

This is extremely dangerous.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:56:39am

re: #782 jaunte

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This is extremely dangerous.

Pence is on his knees grinning.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:58:58am

re: #773 The Pie Overlord!

[Embedded content]

Count me in as well.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 8, 2019 • 9:59:19am

Inside El Paso hospital, Trump talked crowd sizes and ‘crazy Beto’
politico.com

I think America has a mental health crisis.. He’s the President.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:00:18am

re: #782 jaunte

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This is extremely dangerous.

The Radical Xtians will stop at nothing to ram their agenda down our throats.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:01:06am

I’ve seen a lot of right wing comments on Facebook, since the El Paso shooting, like the eight Mexican nationals “would be alive if they just stayed home where they belong,” or “I condemned Patrick Crusius action but that doesn’t he’s wrong about the illegals invasion of America.” They have no souls.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:03:11am

re: #785 Kilroy was here

Inside El Paso hospital, Trump talked crowd sizes and ‘crazy Beto’
politico.com

I think America has a mental health crisis.. He’s the President.

Yeah the victims wanted to hear you complain about a rival. Holy fuck.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:04:33am

re: #787 DodgerFan1988

I’ve seen a lot of right wing comments on Facebook, since the El Paso shooting, like the eight Mexican nationals “would be alive if they just stayed home where they belong,” or “I condemned Patrick Crusius action but that doesn’t he’s wrong about the illegals invasion of America.” They have no souls.

So no one can travel to this country? God they’re as heartless as they are stupid.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:09:31am

re: #789 HappyWarrior

So no one can travel to this country? God they’re as heartless as they are stupid.

Thus proving it’s not about them being here illegally, but being here while brown.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:11:17am

re: #787 DodgerFan1988

I’ve seen a lot of right wing comments on Facebook, since the El Paso shooting, like the eight Mexican nationals “would be alive if they just stayed home where they belong,” or “I condemned Patrick Crusius action but that doesn’t he’s wrong about the illegals invasion of America.” They have no souls.

Please post screen shots and report these to their employers. I can not stress that enough.

Christ, these are the same kinds of comments I saw about Anders Breivik’s massacre in 2011.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:11:19am

re: #790 Belafon

Thus proving it’s not about them being here illegally, but being here while brown.

Yep sigh.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:13:09am

re: #791 electrotek

Please post screen shots and report these to their employers. I can not stress that enough.

Christ, these are the same kinds of comments I saw about Anders Breivik’s massacre in 2011.

Haven’t seen you in a long time. Welcome back.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:13:25am

re: #791 electrotek

Please post screen shots and report these to their employers. I can not stress that enough.

Christ, these are the same kinds of comments I saw about Anders Breivik’s massacre in 2011.

Welcome back!! Haven’t seen you here in awhile!

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:13:29am
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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:14:47am

Hey guys, yeah it’s been a while (almost a year). I had left for my trip to Japan last November and didn’t have a chance to log back in. I still browsed on here on various occassions and was incredibly tempted to log back in during the Christchurch massacre but I didn’t want to get hooked.

But Goddamn I can’t ignore what happened in El Paso since it’s very close to home.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:17:11am

re: #785 Kilroy was here

Inside El Paso hospital, Trump talked crowd sizes and ‘crazy Beto’
politico.com

I think America has a mental health crisis.. He’s the President.

he’s taking cheesecake campaign photos with the wounded
smiling and focusing on the camera and his image
it’s all he knows how to do

it’s like he’s not ‘the president’
like he’s just occupying the space in time
he doesnt read
he doesnt brief
he’s clueless
it’s like he’s never even shown up for work once

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:17:27am

Also, we can not ignore France’s role in its intellectual inspiration for these attacks.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:17:30am

re: #796 electrotek

Hey guys, yeah it’s been a while (almost a year). I had left for my trip to Japan last November and didn’t have a chance to log back in. I still browsed on here on various occassions and was incredibly tempted to log back in during the Christchurch massacre but I didn’t want to get hooked.

But Goddamn I can’t ignore what happened in El Paso since it’s very close to home.

I hear ya. The one young couple and their little boy. I definitely saw my brother and his family.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:17:55am

re: #789 HappyWarrior

So no one can travel to this country? God they’re as heartless as they are stupid.

the real point is we couldnt protect foreigners who were legally visiting

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:18:41am

re: #800 DangerMan

the real point is we couldnt protect foreigners who were legally visiting

And the Mexican government is rightfully furious.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:19:34am

Has anyone checked on Charles? I am getting worried.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:19:50am

re: #802 The Pie Overlord!

Has anyone checked on Charles? I am getting worried.

THANK YOU G-D!

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:12:30am

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