The Bob Cesca Podcast: Who Put the Doy in Deutsche Bank?

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Kush Arora Attorney at Law:

The Doy In Deutsche Bank — NSFW! The Goth Ninjas Jody Hamilton and TRex David Ferguson are here; Lawrence O’Donnell fumbled the Deutsche Bank story, but it still rings true; Deutsche has the documents; Trump’s inescapable NDAs; Andrew Gillum’s remarks about Trump manipulating the stock market; Trump aides tell CNN Trump lied about China to manipulate the markets; Deploy the nukes as Dorian heads toward Mar-a-lago; Miller and Trump ramp up the cruel whimsy; Trump to deport kids with cancer; Starve the beast is back; With music by Battle Tapes and Cloud Party; and more!

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567 comments

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Teukka  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:13:21am

Continued from downstairs…

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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:16:33am

re: #1 Teukka

That’s not the most important part of that photo.

It’s that it was apparently not taken by satellite, but by other technical means.

That would seem to indicate a low-observable UAV. And it’s a very blunt way of telling everyone we have eyes on what the Iranians are doing (or failed to do).

Thing is that there’s zero reason to say anything about the incident at all. It’s awful statecraft, and even worse opsec around our intel gathering means.

It gives the Iranians the ability to figure out what was going on and prep for it going forward. It tips off the Iranians that they have US aircraft entering their airspace unobserved.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:17:04am

re: #1 Teukka

Continued from downstairs…

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well, when an image is top secret classified or whatever it is when an image is viewed in a secure location and can not be removed from the room, you take a cellphone pic!

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Teukka  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:18:14am

re: #2 lawhawk

That’s not the most important part of that photo.

It’s that it was apparently not taken by satellite, but by other technical means.

[Embedded content]

That would seem to indicate a low-observable UAV. And it’s a very blunt way of telling everyone we have eyes on what the Iranians are doing (or failed to do).

Thing is that there’s zero reason to say anything about the incident at all. It’s awful statecraft, and even worse opsec around our intel gathering means.

It gives the Iranians the ability to figure out what was going on and prep for it going forward. It tips off the Iranians that they have US aircraft entering their airspace unobserved.

*nods*

UAV seems quite likely. Too much turbulence in the atmosphere to get such a detailed picture.

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DangerMan  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:19:46am

re: #2 lawhawk

That’s not the most important part of that photo.

It’s that it was apparently not taken by satellite, but by other technical means.

[Embedded content]

That would seem to indicate a low-observable UAV. And it’s a very blunt way of telling everyone we have eyes on what the Iranians are doing (or failed to do).

Thing is that there’s zero reason to say anything about the incident at all. It’s awful statecraft, and even worse opsec around our intel gathering means.

It gives the Iranians the ability to figure out what was going on and prep for it going forward. It tips off the Iranians that they have US aircraft entering their airspace unobserved.

Is there no one who will say to trumps face “what the fuck are you doing?”

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:20:10am

re: #5 DangerMan

Is there no one who will say to trumps face “what the fuck are you doing?”

They all left.

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DangerMan  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:21:08am

re: #6 Belafon

They all left.

Yeah they said they would but no one ever did

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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:21:36am

re: #6 Belafon

They all left.

They were never there. There were never any adults in the room with Trump. Not Mattis. Not Kelly.

No one.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:23:46am

re: #8 lawhawk

They were never there. There were never any adults in the room with Trump. Not Mattis. Not Kelly.

No one.

Yates.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:26:39am

re: #5 DangerMan

Is there no one who will say to trumps face “what the fuck are you doing?”

There’s plenty of us. We just can’t get close enough.

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DangerMan  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:27:53am

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s plenty of us. We just can’t get close enough.

+1

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Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:30:48am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:32:08am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

“Smart” because that is what he would do, since his company and administration are badly-run and weak.

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Jay C  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:33:36am

Carried from last thread:

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

I recall reading, a couple of months back, an opinion piece by a British writer stating a case that the “No-Deal Brexit”/”crashout” - far from being a “worst-case scenario” which the Tory (May) Government (and its Leaver allies) were, nominally, busting their humps to try to avoid at any/all costs - was in fact, the selected outcome virtually from the beginning; or at least since the 2017 election. The basic thesis was that the hardcore Brexit bloc were so fanatically committed to the UK leaving the EU, that they were (and had been from the start) utterly unconcerned about any negative economic effects a “crashout” might engender, as they planned to either blame-shift or simply ignore any outcry.

I also recall they comments on this column (The Guardian?) castigating the writer for being unduly cynical/negative/biased, etc.: of course, the Brits are just now coming to realize that the present horrorshow has been, in fact, exactly as oulines…..

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ericblair  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:34:26am

re: #2 lawhawk

That would seem to indicate a low-observable UAV. And it’s a very blunt way of telling everyone we have eyes on what the Iranians are doing (or failed to do).

Thing is that there’s zero reason to say anything about the incident at all. It’s awful statecraft, and even worse opsec around our intel gathering means.

It gives the Iranians the ability to figure out what was going on and prep for it going forward. It tips off the Iranians that they have US aircraft entering their airspace unobserved.

Repeating what I said downstairs: I think this may be logical. The tweet was obviously not written by the yam.

The US government did declare a few weeks ago that they launched a cyberattack on Iranian intelligence capabilities as retaliation for the drone downing. The newspapers didn’t notice, but this is significant, both that the US is now prepared to use offensive cyber capabilities, and that they were used in response to a kinetic attack. In the US and NATO doctrine, cyber is now a full domain of war, where we can retaliate in one domain for an attack in another. The flip side of this is that the US (and NATO, and other Western allies), when victim of a state cyber attack, could take out the building where that attack was launched under the laws of war.

This tweet says that this is not a US cyber attack, and this is not an escalation of hostilities.

So: the US military wants the world to know that they are prepared and able to use the cyber domain in ways that weren’t legally or doctrinally possible in 2016, but this wasn’t an attack.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:34:52am

You all need to read this TIME article about life as a tipped server

Excerpt:

After an eight-hour shift on her feet, shuffling between a stuffy kitchen and the red vinyl booths of Broad Street Diner, Christina Munce is at a standstill in traffic. Still wearing the red polo shirt and black pants required for work at the diner in South Philadelphia, she’s arguing with her colleague Donna Klum. They carpool most days to spare Klum a two-hour commute on public transportation that involves three transfers.

“It’s not O.K. for people not to tip,” Munce says from the driver’s seat, the Philly skyline passing by. Klum believes that bad karma will catch up with non-tippers, but Munce, a single mother who relies on tips to live, doesn’t care much about their fate. “I have to make sure that my daughter has a roof over her head,” she says. The desire for cash over karma is understandable: Munce’s base pay is $2.83 an hour.

The decade-long economic expansion has been a boon to those at the top of the economic ladder. But it left millions of workers behind, particularly the 4.4 million workers who rely on tips to earn a living, fully two-thirds of them women. Even as wages have crept up-if slowly-in other sectors of the economy, the minimum wage for waitresses and other tipped workers hasn’t budged since 1991. Indeed, there is an entirely separate federal minimum wage for those who live on tips. It varies by state from as low as $2.13 (the federal tipped minimum wage) in 17 states including Texas, Nebraska and Virginia, up to $9.35 in Hawaii. In 36 states, the tipped minimum wage is under $5 an hour. Legally, employers are supposed to make up the difference when tips don’t get servers to the minimum wage, but some restaurants don’t track this closely and the law is rarely enforced.

Waitresses are emblematic of the type of job expected to grow most in the American economy in the next decade—low-wage service work with no guaranteed hours or income. Though high-paying service jobs have been growing quickly in recent months, middle-wage jobs are growing more slowly and could decline sharply in the event of a recession, says Mark Zandi, chief economist with Moody’s Analytics. Those who lose their jobs in a recession usually move down, not up, the pay scale. Jobs like personal-care aide (median annual wage $24,020), food-prep worker ($21,250) and waitstaff ($21,780) are among the fastest-growing occupations in America, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). They have much in common with the burgeoning gig economy, in which people turn to apps in the hope of getting shifts delivering food, driving passengers and cleaning houses.

This “sometimes” work has put the stress of earning a weekly wage, paying for health insurance and saving for retirement squarely on the shoulders of workers. Munce is on food stamps and Medicaid, and many days doesn’t make it to the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour. One of her recent paychecks read $58.67 for 49 hours worked. Add in the $245 she took home in tips, and she made about $6.20 an hour. She wants to work 40-hour weeks, but some days the diner is slow and she gets sent home early. “I don’t drink, I don’t smoke, all I do is save money,” Munce says

A few other takeaways for those who don’t want to read the whole thing:

- The best paid people in the service industry are - you guessed it - white men.

- The service industry sees more sexual harassment complaints than almost any other industry

- A lot of restaurant owners say paying their servers a living wage would put them out of business.

- The Trump Admin scrapped an Obama era rule designed to STRENGTHEN legal enforcement of the requirement for restaurants to make up the difference if tipped employees wind up earning less than minimum wage after tips.

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:35:43am

re: #13 Decatur Deb

Smart because that is what he would do, since his company and administration are badly-run and weak.

One thing Trump and the Republicans know and act on is this: blaming others is an essential part of politics.

Republicans blame Democrats for all kind of bullshit.

For some reason, Democrats are often reluctant to simply blame Republicans for the heinous consequences of Republican policies in action.

Incessant media both-siderism props up the illusion that D and R are equally to blame.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:39:38am

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

The kind of tipped workers in the write-up are also those who are very likely to fail to meet the income thresholds for enrollment in Obamacare. It was maddening to turn such people away.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:42:16am
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Belafon  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:42:25am

re: #14 Jay C

Carried from last thread:

I recall reading, a couple of months back, an opinion piece by a British writer stating a case that the “No-Deal Brexit”/”crashout” - far from being a “worst-case scenario” which the Tory (May) Government (and its Leaver allies) were, nominally, busting their humps to try to avoid at any/all costs - was in fact, the selected outcome virtually from the beginning; or at least since the 2017 election. The basic thesis was that the hardcore Brexit bloc were so fanatically committed to the UK leaving the EU, that they were (and had been from the start) utterly unconcerned about any negative economic effects a “crashout” might engender, as they planned to either blame-shift or simply ignore any outcry.

I also recall they comments on this column (The Guardian?) castigating the writer for being unduly cynical/negative/biased, etc.: of course, the Brits are just now coming to realize that the present horrorshow has been, in fact, exactly as oulines…..

Brexit was never going to be “We’re going to leave unless the terms are truly lousy.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:45:55am

Okay, here’s a weird GSA Website:

beta.sam.gov

It is blank, except for an Uncle Sam tophat in the upper left corner.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:49:10am

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Okay, here’s a weird GSA Website:

beta.sam.gov

It is blank, except for an Uncle Sam tophat in the upper left corner.

Not blank to me

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:49:24am

re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Not blank to me

Me either.

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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:50:10am

re: #4 Teukka

It could be a satellite, and we do have ways to improve the image the same way that land-based telescopes can eliminate aberrations due to temp changes by using adaptive lenses/mirrors.

But the experts seem to think this was a UAV.

Releasing this suggests and shows the tech we have at our disposal, and is unnecessary to giving rivals and enemies insight into our tech. There was no reason to do so.

Same time, it shows how this admin flouts the rules regarding classified info and protecting this from improper use.

If this was shown in a SCIF, then someone brought a camera into it - likely a smartphone, which is a huge no-no. It’s as though no one seems to care about opsec in Trumpworld.

Only thing that mattered were her emails.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:50:46am

re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

I see now. My computer’s paranoiaware snagged it as problematic.

I allowed it to pass and I get the whole page.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:52:09am

Well, my state governor Pete Ricketts is passing along Donald Trump’s propaganda on a great trade deal with Japan.

Gov. Ricketts: Japan Trade Agreement “Vital” for Beef State Farmers & Ranchers (goes to the Nebraska state government Website)

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steve_davis  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:53:13am

re: #2 lawhawk

That’s not the most important part of that photo.

It’s that it was apparently not taken by satellite, but by other technical means.

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That would seem to indicate a low-observable UAV. And it’s a very blunt way of telling everyone we have eyes on what the Iranians are doing (or failed to do).

Thing is that there’s zero reason to say anything about the incident at all. It’s awful statecraft, and even worse opsec around our intel gathering means.

It gives the Iranians the ability to figure out what was going on and prep for it going forward. It tips off the Iranians that they have US aircraft entering their airspace unobserved.

it also lets them know if they mess with any more oil tankers, we can easily drop something nasty on them with a negligible margin of error.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:53:45am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:54:35am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m with Stonekettle. The odd preemptive denial is weirder to me than the image.

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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:56:10am

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

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Mike Lamb  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:56:16am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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The interesting part of that tweet is that it pretty well gives up the ghost in terms of China paying the tariffs…

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:57:54am

My feet hurt.

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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:59:04am

Something else to keep in mind.

During the G-7, there was some effort to get Trump a sideline meeting with Iran’s Zarif.

At the same time, Israel’s Bibi was doing all it could to scuttle that meeting. Ultimately Trump never held the meeting, but one has to wonder why Bibi was so worried that Trump would hold the meeting.

My suspicion is that Bibi realizes that Trump can’t be trusted with anything or anyone, and that Trump could have just as easily thrown Israel under the bus to do a photo op/deal with Iran as not. Remember, last one to whisper in Trump’s ear often gets their way.

Iran was adhering to the JCPOA until Trump scuttled it. For all of Trump’s bluster and BS about the JCPOA, even his admin admitted Iran was following the deal, and Israel had no evidence to the contrary.

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ericblair  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:00:41pm

re: #28 steve_davis

it also lets them know if they mess with any more oil tankers, we can easily drop something nasty on them with a negligible margin of error.

Yeah, since it’s obvious that shithead didn’t write this tweet (that is, it didn’t start with “wow!” and end with a bunch of self-glorifying dickwaving) this all is likely to be deliberate as well. A reason I could see for a snapshot of a screen is that it would fuck up a lot of the artifacts that a digital transfer would have, so foreign intelligence would have much more difficulty figuring out the detailed capabilities of the platform. And yes, it does announce that we can fly shit wherever we want without you knowing about it, so you had better be careful. I seem to remember Israel announcing that they had an F35 tootling around Tehran without any resistance, so it wouldn’t be the first time.

As far as declassification goes, the SECDEF, head of intelligence agency, or the yam could allow and declassify the picture as commander/Primary Classification Authority.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:02:16pm

re: #33 The Pie Overlord!

My feet hurt.

Have you been baking like there’s no tomorrow again, Mrs. Former VB? /s

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:02:49pm

re: #35 ericblair

Yeah, since it’s obvious that shithead didn’t write this tweet (that is, it didn’t start with “wow!” and end with a bunch of self-glorifying dickwaving) this all is likely to be deliberate as well. A reason I could see for a snapshot of a screen is that it would fuck up a lot of the artifacts that a digital transfer would have, so foreign intelligence would have much more difficulty figuring out the detailed capabilities of the platform. And yes, it does announce that we can fly shit wherever we want without you knowing about it, so you had better be careful. I seem to remember Israel announcing that they had an F35 tootling around Tehran without any resistance, so it wouldn’t be the first time.

As far as declassification goes, the SECDEF, head of intelligence agency, or the yam could allow and declassify the picture as commander/Primary Classification Authority.

“Hey Mr. President, can I use this really cool crater photo for this tweet?”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:03:31pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:04:56pm

Arctic sea ice last year at this place in the calendar:

This year:

There is very little green color (moderate depth ice, there is no thick ice left) compared to last year (which also didn’t have much, but more than this year.)

These things don’t make the news anymore. But be assured, the arctic sea ice is disappearing and in the lifetime of many here will become a season thing, disappearing in summer.

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ericblair  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:05:09pm

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m with Stonekettle. The odd preemptive denial is weirder to me than the image.

My thoughts are up in comment 15; I think it’s to head off Iran thinking that this is an escalation of hostilities back from the drone shootdown.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:08:51pm

Jim Bakker brings on Dr. Francis Myles (an African evangelical preacher who claims he can influence the stock market through prayer and says God is against open borders) to state that Trump is not a racist.

He uses the go-to “he’s got a black friend” argument.

(11:00, goes to Utah Outcasts, caution for coarse language)

Jim Bakker Brings on an African Guy to Ask if Trump is Racist

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:13:12pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:20:42pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:21:11pm

So much denial…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:21:11pm
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Belafon  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:23:30pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

A lot of Republicans dislike Iran because if the country were treated as a regular country it would become a regional power. And they can’t have that.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:28:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:30:14pm
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Eventual Carrion  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:30:21pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Jim Bakker brings on Dr. Francis Myles (an African evangelical preacher who claims he can influence the stock market through prayer and says God is against open borders) to state that Trump is not a racist.

He uses the go-to “he’s got a black friend” argument.

(11:00, goes to Utah Outcasts, caution for coarse language)

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Just saying, he had a child raping, underage sex trafficking friend too.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:31:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:32:25pm

re: #47 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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let’s start with Ibn al-Haytham and count how many other non-Christian scientists came first.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:34:16pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:34:57pm

So, apartment complex office will be closed tomorrow, but will open again Tuesday, due to the approaching storm

Except, the storm isn’t due to get here until Tuesday.

Geniuses, bloody geniuses

So, I need to hurry up and wget my rent check up there before the close today

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:35:59pm

re: #52 gocart mozart

I think the difference is how lazy they are.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:36:16pm

Sye Garte is the editor at the ASA, a group of Christians who try to portray themselves as the rational Christian (e.g., they are not YECs.)

Yet the bottom line is that they still believe in magic.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:36:39pm

re: #53 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

So, apartment complex office will be closed tomorrow, but will open again Tuesday, due to the approaching storm

Except, the storm isn’t due to get here until Tuesday.

Geniuses, bloody geniuses

So, I need to hurry up and wget my rent check up there before the close today

Wasn’t the weather service originally saying Monday?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:39:02pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

let’s start with Ibn al-Haytham and count how many other non-Christian scientists came first.

It really sucks how few people know about him because of the way we credit Western mathematicians and scholars with the shit al-Haytham discovered centuries earlier, such as “Wilson’s” Theorem.

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steve_davis  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:39:11pm

re: #44 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So much denial…

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that is the worst fucking argument I’ve heard this week. Saying that science picked up because we developed better glassware is like saying that intelligent design is proven because glasses weren’t invented until 1200 AD, but look where God put our ears.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:40:07pm

Category 3

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:43:03pm

re: #55 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Sye Garte is the editor at the ASA, a group of Christians who try to portray themselves as the rational Christian (e.g., they are not YECs.)

Yet the bottom line is that they still believe in magic.

I haven’t seen magic, but I don’t think believing in magic itself is a problem. If the gods were real, it still wouldn’t negate science. It would just mean there’s a branch of science that studies how the laws of physics can be violated. The real problem is falling back on magic for things that should have a physical explanation - even if we don’t know it right now - because it’s pretty obvious they are occurring in nature without divine intervention. Such as why the entire galaxy spins at the same rate even though they really shouldn’t given our current understanding.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:49:06pm

re: #58 steve_davis

that is the worst fucking argument I’ve heard this week. Saying that science picked up because we developed better glassware is like saying that intelligent design is proven because glasses weren’t invented until 1200 AD, but look where God put our ears.

You’re wrong and kind of being a dick about it. Better glass enabled better optics, which in turn allowed much finer and more detailed observations that rippled through the entire Renaissance art and science scene.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:50:09pm

JFCNTSA
Obama would like a word, Mr. Gym.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:51:02pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

let’s start with Ibn al-Haytham and count how many other non-Christian scientists came first.

Oh, that guy addressed Islamic scientists, basically saying “that was a long time ago.”

He also claimed “both religion and science” stand against reason and logic. (Narrator: Reason and logic are required in science; the New Testament has the opposite):

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. - Romans 1:17

Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. - Hebrews 11:1

We look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. - 2 Corinthians 4:18, right out of Donald Trump’s favourite book.

&c.

The New Testament stands in opposition of reason and logic.

Living by faith is the opposite of living by reason.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:52:09pm

re: #62 The Pie Overlord!

JFCNTSA
Obama would like a word, Mr. Gym.

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They’re just going to pretend the IG Report said something it didn’t, aren’t they?

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:52:36pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Have you been baking like there’s no tomorrow again, Mrs. Former VB? /s

I baked from a wheelchair after my foot surgery in 2017 but it’s very hard to work the dough with the rolling pin from a sitting position.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:55:38pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 12:58:25pm

re: #65 The Pie Overlord!

I baked from a wheelchair after my foot surgery in 2017 but it’s very hard to work the dough with the rolling pin from a sitting position.

I asked my wife about this, since her mother was in a wheelchair all her life after coming down with polio.

She says her mother frequently complained about not being able to stand up to use a rolling pin.

Instead of a rolling pin, maybe you can use a nuke? I heard some very stable genius said you can use them against hurricanes.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:00:07pm

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I asked my wife about this, since her mother was in a wheelchair all her life after coming down with polio.

She says her mother frequently complained about not being able to stand up to use a rolling pin.

Instead of a rolling pin, maybe you can use a nuke? I heard some very stable genius said you can use them against hurricanes.

I don’t bake hurricanes, I drink them.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:01:11pm

re: #68 The Pie Overlord!

I don’t bake hurricanes, I drink them.

LOL. Hurricanes are sort of like a liquid nuke anyway.

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Mescalero09  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:02:10pm
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DangerMan  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:03:58pm

yes, clearly Dorian is not nothing.

Fortunately he’s turned just enough north that i think we’re gonna see a miss.
likely landfall is Martin country - north of mar-a-grifto and south of port st. lucie.
that’s 100 miles from here.

- we’ve done half-assed prep, in case he turns left again, or something else happens.
- otherwise im expecting monday and tuesday rain - maybe 2-3” total, and winds up to around 40 mph with higher gusts, mph but not much more
- while anything could happen, i plan on likelihoods.

- why the people in miami (south even of me) are panicking, i dont know
- gas stations sold out and long lines where theyre still open
- canned goods etc all gone from stores
- not a D battery to be found in either county
- and while every bottle of water has been bought up from publix, target, gas stations, etc, they’re on tv pointing at your tap saying it’s perfectly good water and still working just fine. fill your own containers from that. but no…..

as long as the tarp hold over the 1/2 pool 1/2 pond, we’ll be fine

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:06:29pm

Zirconia & Rayon are send C&D letters to every blogger who writes mean things about them & hurt their li’l feels. Wonkette & now Daily Beast.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:07:52pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dunford: Peace Agreement With The Taliban Is ‘Worth Trying’

Iron Man: Peace Agreement with Thanos is “Worth Trying’

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:09:18pm

re: #50 gocart mozart

The beautiful thing about reply that is that the cult Leader in that episode was actually a con man just grifting the people of Springfield out of their money.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:09:31pm

re: #62 The Pie Overlord!

JFCNTSA
Obama would like a word, Mr. Gym.

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Those four assholes should be ashamed for what they did to Obama and Hillary.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:11:25pm

re: #72 The Pie Overlord!

Zirconia & Rayon are send C&D letters to every blogger who writes mean things about them & hurt their li’l feels. Wonkette & now Daily Beast.

Gotta love how both the Wonkette and Daily Beast letters say they are to keep knowledge of the cease & desist letter private.

I’m getting a vibe here this isn’t actually coming from a lawyer, but some wingnut free speech warrior trying to shut down free speech.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:12:38pm

re: #75 Joe Bacon 🌹

Those four assholes should be ashamed for what they did to Obama and Hillary.

As an aside, I hypothesize that the whole idea of Heaven and Hell was invented because too many people realized that some folks are assholes their whole lives and die of old age, in their own bed, peacefully, surrounded by loved ones. There really is no scorekeeper in this life. So you have to invent one for the next.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:13:57pm

re: #72 The Pie Overlord!

Zirconia & Rayon are send C&D letters to every blogger who writes mean things about them & hurt their li’l feels. Wonkette & now Daily Beast.

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Are they using Ginger Snapped’s liar, er, lawyer?

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Chrysicat  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:14:44pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:14:45pm

re: #77 Blind Frog Belly White

As an aside, I hypothesize that the whole idea of Heaven and Hell was invented because too many people realized that some folks are assholes their whole lives and die of old age, in their own bed, peacefully, surrounded by loved ones. There really is no scorekeeper in this life. So you have to invent one for the next.

Not just heaven and hell. There are numerous religions that believe one receives some form of divine judgment after reaching the afterlife.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:15:30pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:15:59pm

re: #77 Blind Frog Belly White

As an aside, I hypothesize that the whole idea of Heaven and Hell was invented because too many people realized that some folks are assholes their whole lives and die of old age, in their own bed, peacefully, surrounded by loved ones. There really is no scorekeeper in this life. So you have to invent one for the next.

I agree. Personally, an inability to sincerely believe that Trump, Republicans etc. will spend eternity hip-deep in molten lead for their sins is the biggest disappointment I have with being atheist.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:16:21pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:17:52pm

re: #62 The Pie Overlord!

JFCNTSA
Obama would like a word, Mr. Gym.

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“This should never happen to another president!” declares crowd that was public in its intent to start investigating Hillary within hours of her taking the oath of office.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:18:04pm

re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg

Not just heaven and hell. There are numerous religions that believe one receives some form of divine judgment after reaching the afterlife.

It’s the only way to control a static society with rigid classes, when most people’s lives totally suck.

EDIT: Well, it’s A way. Maybe not the only.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:18:20pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

Chuckling Squad?

Oh please tell me CCJ isn’t involved in this.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:19:38pm

re: #82 EPR-radar

I agree. Personally, an inability to sincerely believe that Trump, Republicans etc. will spend eternity hip-deep in molten lead for their sins is the biggest disappointment I have with being atheist.

I sometimes say that the downside of being atheist is knowing you’ll never be able to say “I told you so!”

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:19:53pm

Jack’s twitter account hacked, used to spew and retweet hateful messages.

Twitter moderators confused, not sure whether to terminate account or highlight it for other users to see.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:21:37pm
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DangerMan  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:21:47pm

re: #79 Chrysicat

To give them SOME credit, Trump has no idea he’s lying. Instead he’s so ridiculously delusional that he believes whatever he says is automatically the truth. I mean, I’m literally a pathological liar, but I don’t believe my lies when I tell them—he does.

i know what you mean and i cannot accept this w/r/t trump.

if he has no idea he’s lying, if he can’t tell truth/reality from fiction, then the way he’s being propped up by his cabinet (25th amendment), the press/media, and every Republican is even worse. then the president is insane and the office of the president is currently unoccupied by a functioning person.

no. he knows he’s lying. it’s often pointed out to him after that what he just said was ‘wrong’, incorrect, inaccurate, etc. and then he goes and does it again. it’s certainly pathological. and it’s intentional.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:21:52pm

re: #79 Chrysicat

LOL:

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Mike Lamb  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:22:52pm

re: #64 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re just going to pretend the IG Report said something it didn’t, aren’t they?

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They did it with the Mueller Report. Why stop now?

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DangerMan  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:23:35pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

Twitter CEO @jack’s account has been hacked, apparently by an entity called Chuckling Squad, which also recently hacked the accounts of YouTube stars James Charles and Shane Dawson, among others

um, how do we know it was actually hacked?

how do we know this isnt just @jack being @jack

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:23:42pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

You’re wrong and kind of being a dick about it. Better glass enabled better optics, which in turn allowed much finer and more detailed observations that rippled through the entire Renaissance art and science scene.

Better glass is part of the story of scientific progress. So too is Christianity, but not in the naive form Freetoken was responding to on Twitter, where imaginary 1500s Christian free thinkers were postulated.

It was centuries earlier, when Europe had gotten far enough out of the dark ages to reestablish contact with the rest of civilization, and discovered Greek and Arabic science and mathematics. The Church at that time had a choice between embracing that for the greater glory of God, and trying to suppress it as a danger to the faith. They actually chose the former option.

Subsequent history showed that it was, in fact, a danger to the faith.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:24:45pm

Varneys mouth is firmly glued to Trumps ass. For every Neil Caputo who accidentally stumbles into integrity, there are more examples of this shit that would make Goebeslls proud.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:24:58pm

re: #2 lawhawk

We want Iran to shoot down one of our UAVs. That’s all the excuse Trumpworld needs to go to war with Iran. Doesn’t matter that we are violating their airspace one bit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:25:05pm

You know how you can tell when a MAGA Twitter account has been hacked?

The spelling and grammar improves.

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Chrysicat  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:27:00pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:28:01pm

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:28:04pm

re: #98 Chrysicat

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Those two are so nauseating.

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mmmirele  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:29:04pm

Adventures in cat herding.

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Chrysicat  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:29:54pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Those two are so nauseating.

Yeah, and that was a screwed-up post too. Reload for what the second pasted tweet was supposed to be.

Or if you care not to, I think these are Trump’s test cases to place a chilling effect on publishers by having SCOTUS end truth as an absolute defense to libel.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:30:25pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

Laura Loomer is so clever!

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:35:45pm

re: #102 Chrysicat

Yeah, and that was a screwed-up post too. Reload for what the second pasted tweet was supposed to be.

Or if you care not to, I think these are Trump’s test cases to place a chilling effect on publishers by having SCOTUS end truth as an absolute defense to libel.

“Trump is a corrupt liar” as a NYT banner headline would be a hell of a test case for this. But the BNYT is too chickenshit for that.

There’s no need to explicitly end freedom of the press if the ruling class can already get everything it wants just by owning the media.

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Chrysicat  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:36:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:36:31pm

re: #102 Chrysicat

Yeah, and that was a screwed-up post too. Reload for what the second pasted tweet was supposed to be.

Or if you care not to, I think these are Trump’s test cases to place a chilling effect on publishers by having SCOTUS end truth as an absolute defense to libel.

It could well be. It’s scary shit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:41:04pm

re: #105 Chrysicat

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“Okay, yeah, it’s a dick pic. And it came from my account. But I didn’t send it! Here, I’ll prove it!”

(takes pic of dick, sends out to all contacts)

“See? Completely different!”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:47:58pm

re: #105 Chrysicat

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:50:22pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:52:02pm

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:53:57pm

re: #89 gocart mozart

The DOJ IG attempts to prosecute Souza for being associated with Obama releasing information that Trump done messed up.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:56:42pm

re: #90 DangerMan

i know what you mean and i cannot accept this w/r/t trump.

if he has no idea he’s lying, if he can’t tell truth/reality from fiction, then the way he’s being propped up by his cabinet (25th amendment), the press/media, and every Republican is even worse. then the president is insane and the office of the president is currently unoccupied by a functioning person.

no. he knows he’s lying. it’s often pointed out to him after that what he just said was ‘wrong’, incorrect, inaccurate, etc. and then he goes and does it again. it’s certainly pathological. and it’s intentional.

Your two paragraphs are not mutually exclusive, but the first one is what is damaging the country.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 1:56:58pm

Wingnut Christian apologist and radio host Jesse Lee Peterson:

Christian radio host: ‘Educated women’ make horrible wives and mothers (Deadstate)

GOP Rep. Sean Duffy announced he’s resigning from Congress because his wife, Fox News commentator Rachel Campos-Duffy is pregnant with their ninth child — a child who will likely have to undergo heart surgery soon after birth. According to hyper misogynist and far-right Christian radio host Jesse Lee Peterson, that’s a bad move.

“Why does she have to work?” Peterson asked in a video clip flagged by Right Wing Watch. “Why doesn’t she stay home, be a wife, a mother, and help raise the children? And now this guy has to step down because this baby apparently has some issues … He shouldn’t quit his job for that. I guarantee you she is making him do it.”

Peterson went on to slam Campos-Duffy as “a selfish, egotistical woman,” adding that her husband is “too beta male to make her do the right thing.”

(more)

One of the issues people will bring up is “why do people care what these guys think and say?”

The issue isn’t that a particular wingnut like Jesse Lee Peterson or Tommy “Pumpkin-curious” McMurty have large followings or not.

The problem is there are so many of these hate preachers. When you add them up, they have tens of millions of followers.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:03:00pm

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Wingnut Christian apologist and radio host Jesse Lee Peterson:

Christian radio host: ‘Educated women’ make horrible wives and mothers (Deadstate)

(more)

One of the issues people will bring up is “why do people care what these guys think and say?”

The issue isn’t that a particular wingnut like Jesse Lee Peterson or Tommy “Pumpkin-curious” McMurty have large followings or not.

The problem is there are so many of these hate preachers. When you add them up, they have tens of millions of followers.

Surprised he isn’t advocating for chopping off her head for failing to deliver Lord Sean a baby without heart problems.

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DangerMan  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:03:25pm

re: #107 Blind Frog Belly White

“Okay, yeah, it’s a dick pic. And it came from my account. But I didn’t send it! Here, I’ll prove it!”

(takes pic of dick, sends out to all contacts)

“See? Completely different!”

i was thinking:

“Okay, yeah, it’s a dick pic. And it came from my account. But it’s not mine. Here, I’ll prove it!”

(takes pic of dick, sends out to all contacts)

..figures out too late, oh wait, that doesnt work, does it…? /s

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DangerMan  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:04:51pm

re: #112 Belafon

Your two paragraphs are not mutually exclusive, but the first one is what is damaging the country.

i know
after i wrote it i realized it doesnt make my argument, it’s just my big fear - no one’s driving the bus and the passengers who can do something about it dont care

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Chrysicat  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:05:21pm

re: #64 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re just going to pretend the IG Report said something it didn’t, aren’t they?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:05:36pm

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹🎃

For Fuck’s sake. Campos-Duffy is 47 years old. Anyone with a modicum of medical knowledge will tell you that’s pretty freaking old to be pregnant and that a lot of pregnancies at that age have a high risk of complications.

Also, fun fact: Some of the smartest people in the Bible were women.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:06:41pm

Illinois Rep. Shimkus won’t run for reelection
thehill.com
Illinois Rep. Shimkus won’t run for reelection
© Greg Nash
GOP Rep. John Shimkus announced Friday he will not seek reelection for Illinois’s 15th Congressional District next year.

That is 10 open seats now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:07:36pm
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DangerMan  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:09:51pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

A globalist is just a nationalist mugged by apparel supply chain reality

having principles is expensive

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:11:11pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

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bring back a 30-cent minimum wage in America!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:11:32pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

bring back a 30-cent minimum wage in America!

Make America Broke Again.

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Chrysicat  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:12:14pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

bring back a 30-cent minimum wage in America!

I know you’re being sarcastic, but I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what she means. Or IOW, #MakeAmericaGildedAgain!

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:13:04pm

re: #123 Eclectic Cyborg

Make America Broke Grovel Again.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:13:22pm

re: #124 Chrysicat

I know you’re being sarcastic, but I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what she means. Or IOW, #MakeAmericaGildedAgain!

Even better than mine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:15:11pm

re: #124 Chrysicat

I know you’re being sarcastic, but I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what she means. Or IOW, #MakeAmericaGildedAgain!

I was not being sarcastic, I know that’s what she meant

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:16:54pm

It’s like I said the other day. Trumpkins think there are people in all those foreign countries making steel, cars, and clothes with 1950s technology, just for lower wages, and that if we bring the jobs back they’ll be as abundant and pay the same kind of wages they used to pay, with all the benefits they used to have.

At the same time, they blame Unions for causing the companies to leave the US because they were greedy and asked for too much - you know, the high wages and good benefits mentioned above.

It’s amazing what you’ll believe, if you never apply a moment’s thought to your beliefs!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:18:45pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:20:08pm

re: #115 DangerMan

i was thinking:

“Okay, yeah, it’s a dick pic. And it came from my account. But it’s not mine. Here, I’ll prove it!”

(takes pic of dick, sends out to all contacts)

..figures out too late, oh wait, that doesnt work, does it…? /s

Depends.

Dick pic.
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mmmirele  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:20:14pm

re: #118 Eclectic Cyborg

For Fuck’s sake. Campos-Duffy is 47 years old. Anyone with a modicum of medical knowledge will tell you that’s pretty freaking old to be pregnant and that a lot of pregnancies at that age have a high risk of complications.

Also, fun fact: Some of the smartest people in the Bible were women.

Like St. Jael of the Tent Peg.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:23:16pm

re: #118 Eclectic Cyborg

For Fuck’s sake. Campos-Duffy is 47 years old. Anyone with a modicum of medical knowledge will tell you that’s pretty freaking old to be pregnant and that a lot of pregnancies at that age have a high risk of complications.

Also, fun fact: Some of the smartest people in the Bible were women.

Maybe Peterson is using the Conservapedia version of the “unchanging word of God” that they changed?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:24:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:26:53pm

heh

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:27:08pm

And another “family-values, Bible-believing” Christian goes down for breaking the law:

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Chrysicat  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:27:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:28:10pm
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Chrysicat  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:30:40pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:34:07pm

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Duffy is a practicing Roman Catholic, hence the vitriol from the Talebangicals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:34:42pm
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Chrysicat  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:34:43pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:35:42pm

Kara Swisher has a story about a Silicon Valley CEO who just up and started doing the downward dog yoga pose in the middle of an interview, and how she told him how goddamned rude he was being and to stop. Apparently he got all indignant and was seriously taken aback, saying none of his employees minded when he did it. Her response was that of course they fucking minded, but that the immense power imbalance prevented them from feeling like they could be honest about his weird shitty behaviors.

I’m pretty sure that CEO was Jack Dorsey.

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:37:26pm

re: #142 goddamnedfrank

Kara Swisher has a story about a Silicon Valley CEO just up and started doing the downward dog yoga pose in the middle of an interview, and how she told him how goddamned rude he was being and to stop. Apparently he got all indignant and was seriously taken aback, saying none of his employees minded when he did it. Her response was that of course they fucking minded, but that the immense power imbalance prevented them from feeling like they could be honest about his weird shitty behaviors.

I’m pretty sure that CEO was Jack Dorsey.

Dude bros gotta asana…

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:38:02pm

Tulsi origin story

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:39:10pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

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Shorter tweet: “Nationalism is expensive!”

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:40:41pm

re: #144 gocart mozart

Tulsi origin story

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One of his former followers describes how they had to eat his toenail clippings.

Seriously.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:42:48pm
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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:42:52pm

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

One of his former followers describes how they had to eat his toenail clippings.

Seriously.

Nope, nyet, nein, non, no-way, no how.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:43:02pm

re: #50 gocart mozart

Bill Mitchell says that Trump is such a great leader that he operates on the level of “unconscious competence” where he just naturally does the right thing without even having to think about it … like Babe Ruth, astronauts, and fighter pilots.

You know who else worked on the level of “unconscious competence” until he fucked up the Stalingrad weather report?

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:43:17pm

Good article

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:44:14pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Honestly, I’d find it more believable that Trump doesn’t like to be in pictures with Tiffany period and just made an excuse when pushed for an answer as to why. He only seemed to acknowledge her when he thought she could be an asset to his campaign, after which he shoved her back into the hole he’s dumped that entire marriage into.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:47:35pm

The Mercedes-Benz dealer in Denver just called.

They scheduled our car maintenance (and replacement for the part broken in the hailstorm) for Friday, September 13.

Friday the 13th seems like a good day to get car service.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:47:39pm

re: #150 gocart mozart

Good article

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SO, this week it’s “Total Exoneration!”

How long till they claim Horowitz is part of the Deep State, totally biased, etc.?

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:47:42pm

re: #150 gocart mozart

Good article

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This really would be a good opportunity for Comey to call Hillary and finally issue that apology he’s owed her since July of 2016, now that he knows what it’s like to be cleared of criminal wrongdoing and yet treated like the worst scum for breaking department regulations.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:48:56pm

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The Mercedes-Benz dealer in Denver just called.

They scheduled our car maintenance (and replacement for the part broken in the hailstorm) for Friday, September 13.

Friday the 13th seems like a good day to get car service.

Well at least the dealership is in Denver and not Crystal Lake…

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:50:33pm

re: #154 Targetpractice

This really would be a good opportunity for Comey to call Hillary and finally issue that apology he’s owed her since July of 2016, now that he knows what it’s like to be cleared of criminal wrongdoing and yet treated like the worst scum for breaking department regulations.

The 800 lb gorilla in the room that the IG report on Comey studiously ignores is that internal FBI/DOJ procedures are inherently incapable of dealing with a president gone rogue.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:53:39pm

I miss Mollie

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:56:29pm

re: #156 EPR-radar

The 800 lb gorilla in the room that the IG report on Comey studiously ignores is that internal FBI/DOJ procedures are inherently incapable of dealing with a president gone rogue.

The amusing thing is that many of the regs that bind the FBI today…were written in the wake of the death of J. Edgar as a way of ensuring that it would never again become the private fiefdom of some authoritarian thug with delusions of grandeur.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:57:59pm

Setting sun brings out the relief:

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calochortus  Aug 30, 2019 • 2:58:50pm

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The Mercedes-Benz dealer in Denver just called.

They scheduled our car maintenance (and replacement for the part broken in the hailstorm) for Friday, September 13.

Friday the 13th seems like a good day to get car service.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:02:31pm

From a few minutes ago:

NHC Update with Ken Graham

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plansbandc  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:09:35pm

Just saw a pic of Tomi where she actually didn’t look like a human blowup doll. She looks much more white power country singer. Quite an improvement.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:14:20pm

Let’s hope Donald Trump’s continued record of supporting losing candidates holds for the special election.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:14:27pm

re: #161 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Reposting in order to get the daytime FL lizard crowd:

Dorian is starting to look like a mofo. Any FL coastal lizards who feel a pressing need to experience the AL/GA/FL tri-state corner can raise their hands in the next couple days. We’re cool with a couple pets, but you’ll have to negotiate with Doofus, the Wonder Pyr.

Decrypted, we can put up about 5 evacuees comfortably, and several pets. (We can move the Pyr to a friend if needed.) Our town is 80 mi inland from the Gulf and well out of range of an E coast hit. It is a routine evacuation reception center, though an occasional storm like Michael does some damage here. Post interest here, and I’ll provide contact info.

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:16:33pm
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calochortus  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:17:51pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

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Well, that was my thought. I’d take my chances with the gun.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:17:52pm

Night about to fall on Dorian:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:18:25pm

re: #2 lawhawk

That’s not the most important part of that photo.

It’s that it was apparently not taken by satellite, but by other technical means.

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That would seem to indicate a low-observable UAV. And it’s a very blunt way of telling everyone we have eyes on what the Iranians are doing (or failed to do).

Thing is that there’s zero reason to say anything about the incident at all. It’s awful statecraft, and even worse opsec around our intel gathering means.

It gives the Iranians the ability to figure out what was going on and prep for it going forward. It tips off the Iranians that they have US aircraft entering their airspace unobserved.

I’m wondering if this might be an intercepted Iranian image, taken routinely from an ordinary aircraft for damage assessment.

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Varek Raith  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:18:51pm

Hi everybody!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:18:51pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

Female version of that: SHS or Ann Coulter?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:18:53pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

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re: #171 Eclectic Cyborg

Female version of that: SHS or Ann Coulter?

Just shoot me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:19:12pm

re: #170 Varek Raith

Hi everybody!

Hi, Dr. Nick Varek!

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:19:29pm

re: #168 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s gonna be bad. Very bad. And the federal government’s response is going to make it worse.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:20:11pm

re: #170 Varek Raith

Hi everybody!

Howdy!

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calochortus  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:20:42pm

re: #174 teleskiguy

It’s gonna be bad. Very bad. And the federal government’s response is going to make it worse.

Probably. There is a small chance it will turn north before it hits the coast, but I sure wouldn’t want to bet on that.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:20:43pm

re: #170 Varek Raith

Hi everybody!

Are you out on bail?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:20:53pm

re: #174 teleskiguy

It’s gonna be bad. Very bad. And the federal government’s response is going to make it worse.

ICE will be picking through the rubble to try and find undocumented immigrants.

Half /

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:23:13pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:24:36pm

re: #170 Varek Raith

Hi everybody!

Who the hell are you?

//

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:25:46pm

re: #24 lawhawk

if this was shown in a SCIF, then someone brought a camera into it - likely a smartphone, which is a huge no-no. It’s as though no one seems to care about opsec in Trumpworld.

Only thing that mattered were her emails.

My last government security training showed a picture in a secure response environment (two guys in front of monitors, a third looking at some papers, nothing of interest showing, etc.) and asked us what was violative in the picture.

It was the existence of the picture that was the violation. Us peons are taught this shit.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:27:30pm

re: #163 plansbandc

Just saw a pic of Tomi where she actually didn’t look like a human blowup doll. She looks much more white power country singer. Quite an improvement.

Blink.
Blink. Blink.
Blink. Blink. Blink.

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b.d.  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:27:49pm

re: #170 Varek Raith

Hi everybody!

¡Hola!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:29:26pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

Not an option. As others noted, put t he gun in my mouth.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:30:41pm

Last glint of daylight over Dorian, but some of the image is in IR:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:30:54pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:32:45pm

This is better; red visible light image shows the how dusk colors the storm:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:35:26pm
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b.d.  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:37:18pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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lol, poor Bolton, sucks to be him.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:37:19pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:38:44pm

re: #190 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He looks like a crazy homeless guy in that photo.

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:40:28pm

re: #188 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Meanwhile, every bread aisle and dairy section in the state is likely empty by now.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:40:49pm

Is this a new one?

KMOX EXCLUSIVE: Illinois GOP congressman John Shimkus will not run in 2020
kmox.radio.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:41:42pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:44:41pm

re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg

He looks like a crazy homeless guy in that photo.

Homeless guy libelz. I never looked like that.

He looks like a crazy glibertarian douchecanoe.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:44:42pm

Imagined the RW shrieking if Obama had casually Tweeted classified Info?

FUCK TRUMP.

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:45:55pm

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

Imagined the RW shrieking if Obama had casually Tweeted classified Info?

FUCK TRUMP.

I don’t have to imagine it. Three words: “BUT HER EMAILS!!!”

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calochortus  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:46:42pm

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

Imagined the RW shrieking if Obama had casually Tweeted classified Info?

FUCK TRUMP.

You see, Obama didn’t have the right to Tweet classified material because Democrat. Or something

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:46:53pm

Paging Mr. Darwin…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:47:42pm

re: #199 Targetpractice

Paging Mr. Darwin…

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I’m going to go out on a limb here and say these guys voted for Trump.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:48:51pm

re: #192 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, every bread aisle and dairy section in the state is likely empty by now.

The bread isle had a very limited selection, I grabbed the last loaf of Arnold seedless rye

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:50:06pm

re: #170 Varek Raith

Now it’s time for one of your magical gal’s to bring out their bombs….

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ckkatz  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:52:34pm

re: #201 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The bread isle had a very limited selection, I grabbed the last loaf of Arnold seedless rye

Up in the DC region there seems to be some sort of requirement that, before any major storm, everybody report to the local supermarket and recite the ‘Storm Mantra’:
“Bread, Milk, Toilet Paper”

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:53:27pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:53:29pm

I’ve seen morons use milk jugs or glass beer bottles before and thought they were not the brightest bulbs around.

Thank you, Floridaman, for demonstrating that my redneck cousins were towering intellects next to you.

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Varek Raith  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:53:39pm

re: #203 ckkatz

Up in the DC region there seems to be some sort of requirement that, before any major storm, everybody report to the local supermarket and recite the ‘Storm Mantra’:
“Bread, Milk, Toilet Paper”

Can confirm.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:53:51pm

re: #199 Targetpractice

Paging Mr. Darwin…

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Wait - are they REALLY filling OPEN TOP PLASTIC BUCKETS with GASOLINE?!?!?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:55:25pm

I live in a hurricane zone. If a storm is coming in I stock up on drinking water, nonperishable food, first aid supplies and batteries for my flashlights and radios. I also fill up the tanks and both my vehicles and fill up my gas can.

But I don’t buy milk or bread.

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Varek Raith  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:55:32pm

re: #207 Blind Frog Belly White

Wait - are they REALLY filling OPEN TOP PLASTIC BUCKETS with GASOLINE?!?!?

It’s fiiiine.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:55:45pm

re: #194 Anymouse 🌹🎃

When we made the rules, nobody thought we’d ever elect someone like this, or that the Senate would stand by and cheer him on.

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:55:52pm

re: #203 ckkatz

Up in the DC region there seems to be some sort of requirement that, before any major storm, everybody report to the local supermarket and recite the ‘Storm Mantra’:
“Bread, Milk, Toilet Paper”

You can generally gauge the seriousness of a hurricane by the response of the locals.

By which I mean the people who’ve lived here all their lives or at least a significant portion of it. The non-natives always freak, start emptying out the stores, and talk loudly about throwing all their “valuables” in a car and heading to higher ground.

The locals, by contrast, won’t freak out for anything more dangerous than a Cat 2. If it looks like the worst that may happen is a couple days without power, they’ll empty out the alcohol sections and stock up on snack foods.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:56:17pm

re: #209 Varek Raith

It’s fiiiine.

“Honey! Remember to get a carton of Camels!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:57:39pm

re: #211 Targetpractice

The locals, by contrast, won’t freak out for anything more dangerous than a Cat 2. If it looks like the worst that may happen is a couple days without power, they’ll empty out the alcohol sections and stock up on snack foods.

Hurricane parties can be fun. Ask me how I know.

:P

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:58:23pm

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

radios

Hurricane parties can be fun. Ask me how I know.

:P

If the power goes out, we can just use the washing machine as another cooler!

/

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 30, 2019 • 3:59:20pm

Valerie Harper, RIP….

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:00:21pm

re: #215 Eric The Fruit Bat

Good bye Rhoda. RIP Ms Harper

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:01:21pm

re: #210 Blind Frog Belly White

When we made the rules, nobody thought we’d ever elect someone like this, or that the Senate would stand by and cheer him on.

What history is telling the US right now is that only customs prevented the US from turning into a banana republic like nearly every other country with a presidential system.

Our precious system of checks and balances means precisely diddly/squat in the face of a wannabe despot with unwavering support from a party full of proto-fascists pining for Dear Leader to start beating up the undesirables.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:04:42pm

re: #216 PhillyPretzel

Good bye Rhoda. RIP Ms Harper

Died about one week after her birthday. Ouch.

EDIT: I see she’s been fighting cancer for awhile and was recently reported as being in great pain. So I suppose there is happiness to be found in the knowledge she is no longer suffering.

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:05:44pm

Another thing that disappears from store shelves in this area: flashlights. Big ones, small ones, wearable ones, even Coleman lanterns will disappear from the camping section like they were called back to the mothership. Which makes it all the more hilarious when we don’t even lose power during the storm, as opposed to all the times the rest of the year when it drops from a sudden gust of wind.

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unproven innocence  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:05:59pm

Several decades ago, when I read Diary of a Young Girl, I was sad. I’m still sad. History may not be repeating, exactly, but it’s fucking rhyming:

Deportation Threatens Life Of Immigrant Who Helped FDA Research | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:06:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:06:33pm

Wow, this one took off. Looks like a lot of people know what those Twitter “no violation” emails look like.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:06:51pm

re: #219 Targetpractice

The great thing about flashlights is they have many non hurricane uses.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:07:02pm

re: #208 Eclectic Cyborg

I live in a hurricane zone. If a storm is coming in I stock up on drinking water, nonperishable food, first aid supplies and batteries for my flashlights and radios. I also fill up the tanks and both my vehicles and fill up my gas can.

But I don’t buy milk or bread.

Son2 is on the West coast near Tampa, will get hit by a weakened Dorian that crosses the peninsula. He has one of these to covert his tub into a safe supply:

WaterBOB Bathtub Emergency Water Storage Container, Drinking Water Storage, Hurricane Survival, BPA-Free (100 Gallon)

amazon.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:07:36pm

re: #216 PhillyPretzel

Good bye Rhoda. RIP Ms Harper

She was less than a year older than my mother is now.

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EPR-radar  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:09:21pm

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

The great thing about flashlights is they have many non hurricane uses.

When I first saw this, I read it as ‘fleshlights’. Occupational hazard of always having my mind in the gutter, I suppose.

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:09:27pm

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

The great thing about flashlights is they have many non hurricane uses.

What drives me nuts is when this shit happens at the same time I need something as simple as a pack of batteries or a replacement LED for my Mini-Mag flashlight. I go to the store and it looks like it’s been hit by a plague of locusts.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:10:16pm

re: #226 EPR-radar

When I first saw this, I read it as ‘fleshlights’. Occupational hazard of always having my mind in the gutter, I suppose.

Yeah, that’s a whole different level there. :P

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:10:42pm

re: #224 Decatur Deb

Son2 is on the West coast near Tampa, will get hit by a weakened Dorian that crosses the peninsula. He has one of these to covert his tub into a safe supply:

WaterBOB Bathtub Emergency Water Storage Container, Drinking Water Storage, Hurricane Survival, BPA-Free (100 Gallon)

amazon.com

If I had more than one bathtub or a separate shower I’d order that for the next one.
Amazon seems to only be guaranteeing delivers after Sep 6th in Florida now

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:12:26pm

re: #227 Targetpractice

What drives me nuts is when this shit happens at the same time I need something as simple as a pack of batteries or a replacement LED for my Mini-Mag flashlight. I go to the store and it looks like it’s been hit by a plague of locusts.

I’m a Harbor Freight freak. Got enough free blue LED flashlights to light the block.

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plansbandc  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:13:13pm

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:14:04pm

re: #226 EPR-radar

When I first saw this, I read it as ‘fleshlights’. Occupational hazard of always having my mind in the gutter, I suppose.

Well, any port in a storm…

//

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ckkatz  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:14:46pm

wirecutter.com is a fairly decent gear review site that I have always found a good starting point. Even when I do not agree with the specific conclusions. (Note: It is part of the New York Times. But is _not_ behind a paywall.)

They have two disaster/emergency checklists:

The Best Emergency Preparedness Supplies
thewirecutter.com

The Best Gear for Your Bug-Out Bag
thewirecutter.com

The big problem with “prepping”, even for a reputable site is that it is essentially a huge “Buy this expensive stuff, even though you will likely never need or use it”.

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ckkatz  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:17:11pm

re: #224 Decatur Deb

Son2 is on the West coast near Tampa, will get hit by a weakened Dorian that crosses the peninsula. He has one of these to covert his tub into a safe supply:

WaterBOB Bathtub Emergency Water Storage Container, Drinking Water Storage, Hurricane Survival, BPA-Free (100 Gallon)

amazon.com

I have heard about these. If your son uses it, I would be curious to hear his thoughts on it.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:18:50pm

re: #234 ckkatz

I have heard about these. If your son uses it, I would be curious to hear his thoughts on it.

This will be the week, probably. OTOH 35.00 is a lot of bottled water or a good bit of Dos XX.

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ckkatz  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:21:43pm

re: #219 Targetpractice

Another thing that disappears from store shelves in this area: flashlights. Big ones, small ones, wearable ones, even Coleman lanterns will disappear from the camping section like they were called back to the mothership. Which makes it all the more hilarious when we don’t even lose power during the storm, as opposed to all the times the rest of the year when it drops from a sudden gust of wind.

Last major snowstorm I was in a big box hardware store. (I was getting some small part so that I could do some needed chores in case I got snowed in for a few hours.) The clerk helping me located the part mentioned that the store had sold out all of its generators. But that they would all be returned in a couple of days.

Based on this you may be able to get a good deal on returned camping goods in a few days.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:22:01pm

The cruelty is the point.

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Danack  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:25:57pm

re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg

He looks like a crazy homeless guy in that photo.

I’m suddenly thinking about getting my beard trimmed right down.

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:27:16pm

Dorian rapidly intensified.

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ckkatz  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:35:00pm

re: #235 Decatur Deb

This will be the week, probably. OTOH 35.00 is a lot of bottled water or a good bit of Dos XX.

I guess that if he has young children and expects the water to be out for a few days, probably a good idea to store that extra 100 gallons.

But you do make an excellent point on the Dos XX.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:37:22pm

re: #207 Blind Frog Belly White

Wait - are they REALLY filling OPEN TOP PLASTIC BUCKETS with GASOLINE?!?!?

Toward the end of his career, my dad was civil service fire chief at a certain large military installation in the western part of the country. One day, there was an explosion and fire in the housing area. The back wall of the house was blown out and the resident with it. The fire department extinguished the fire while the resident was sent to the hospital with moderate to severe burns and various other injuries. My dad and other investigators quickly established that the explosion had been caused by vaporized gasoline and that it had originated inside the washing machine. They went to the hospital to talk to the resident as soon as the doctors would approve. “Er, to get straight to the point, how did a gallon or so of gas come to be in your washing machine?”
The heavily bandaged and still drugged resident explained that he had gotten paint on his clothes and knew that gasoline would take it out. He had put the clothes in the washer, poured in a gallon of gasoline and hit the start button. It ran for a few seconds, then he suddenly found himself in the backyard with his hair and the clothes he was wearing on fire. The clothes he had been trying to clean were flaming rags wafting around the neighborhood.
This man was a commissioned officer of the Air Force.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:38:19pm

They should suspend the rules of hurricane naming so that the next one can be named Phrygian.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:38:36pm

Still butthurt over being called a “bedbug.” JFC

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plansbandc  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:38:58pm

Just liberated a very tiny lizard from my bathtub. Ah, New Mexico.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:41:32pm

re: #243 The Pie Overlord!

Still butthurt over being called a “bedbug.” JFC

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Suddenly “woke.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:41:41pm

Time for the weekly break from electronics. I will see you on the other side of Saturday!
#ShabbatShalom

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ckkatz  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:42:00pm

Well, just heard from my brother who lives just north of Tampa. His wife is with her mother on Boca Raton. If the storm tracks south, they will head back to Tampa and shelter there.

Last major hurricane they also sheltered in Tampa. Just before the hurricane hit, friends were texting them all sorts of horror stories and misplaced disaster advice. I do not think that this was as helpful or uplifting as their friends had intended.

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ckkatz  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:44:43pm

re: #243 The Pie Overlord!

Shabbat Shalom!

I think that it was Stonekettle who pointed out that the Nazis saw themselves as victims. Apparently, Bret Stephens also feels a victim.

Edit - clarified the originally ambiguous last sentence.

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:44:54pm

re: #239 teleskiguy

Lowest barometric pressure ever recorded in the Atlantic Basin was Hurricane Wilma in 2005, at 882 mb.

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b.d.  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:46:50pm

re: #243 The Pie Overlord!

Still butthurt over being called a “bedbug.” JFC

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For the love of Pete

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:47:04pm

re: #249 teleskiguy

Lowest barometric pressure ever recorded in the Atlantic Basin was Hurricane Wilma in 2005, at 882 mb.

Wow.

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:50:13pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:50:26pm
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:52:30pm

re: #252 teleskiguy

That is what the undocumented immigrants are for. If something happens to them it is no skin off of DT’s nose.

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:53:00pm

re: #253 Charles Johnson

Twitter ratios, the new Kristallnacht.

*spit*

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:53:37pm
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b.d.  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:54:25pm

re: #253 Charles Johnson

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long past time for that guy to lose his job

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:54:27pm

This is pretty much the John Bolton who was despised by his staff at the United Nations:

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b.d.  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:56:04pm
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Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2019 • 4:58:20pm

re: #5 DangerMan

Is there no one who will say to trumps face “what the fuck are you doing?”

No.

At least none Trump will listen to.

Which, come to think of it is nobody.

So, no.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:00:43pm

You can still smoke in bars in St. Louis?

riverfronttimes.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:04:36pm

O_o

what Shannon says:

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calochortus  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:07:13pm

Gah. The local news has a piece on about a surge in the number of yellow jackets in the Bay Area. The problem? They are showing videos of honeybees to accompany the story.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:16:18pm

re: #263 calochortus

Gah. The local news has a piece on about a surge in the number of yellow jackets in the Bay Area. The problem? They are showing videos of honeybees to accompany the story.

I caught a group of them trying to make a nest down below the stem of my potted tomato plant. I decided it was a good time to water, they’re gone.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:22:17pm

re: #261 Barefoot Grin

You can still smoke in bars in St. Louis?

riverfronttimes.com

If you wear a Stetson hat—Stagger Lee exemption.

Champion Jack Dupree - Stack-O-Lee

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:23:19pm

re: #224 Decatur Deb

Son2 is on the West coast near Tampa, will get hit by a weakened Dorian that crosses the peninsula. He has one of these to covert his tub into a safe supply:

WaterBOB Bathtub Emergency Water Storage Container, Drinking Water Storage, Hurricane Survival, BPA-Free (100 Gallon)

amazon.com

My son-only is in Jacksonville … along with some people here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:24:31pm
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Varek Raith  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:26:08pm

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

what Shannon says:

WTF

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:26:19pm

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🎃

My son-only is in Jacksonville … along with some people here.

If he decides to bail, we’re straight down I10.

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Mescalero09  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:27:23pm

re: #244 plansbandc

Just liberated a very tiny lizard from my bathtub. Ah, New Mexico.

Count your blessings….Could be a….

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:33:49pm
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plansbandc  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:36:36pm
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mmmirele  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:37:49pm

re: #249 teleskiguy

Lowest barometric pressure ever recorded in the Atlantic Basin was Hurricane Wilma in 2005, at 882 mb.

2005 was a hell of a year for hurricanes. Twenty-eight total storms, they ran out of names, and Katrina is still remembered as the nadir of Second Bush’s presidency. I had a friend incarcerated at FCI Beaumont and they took a near direct hit from Rita. No, they were not evacuated. Yes, they were out of water and power for days. It was apparently *hellish* conditions. It was hot, humid, damp, no electricity, no water to speak of except for whatever got trucked in. The prisoners felt forgotten—and they were. Prison was bad, but he had PTSD afterwards from the hurricane. (And he went back to live in Houston after he got released, because his family was there.)

Think of the prisoners in Florida—you can be for damn sure they’re not being moved.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:38:45pm
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Citizen K  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:43:24pm

re: #271 Anymouse 🌹🎃

In light of this entire snit, I predict that the New York Times will publicly announce that they’re renewing Bret Stephen’s contract for another 5 years…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:45:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:46:33pm

just relaxing at Camp David, doncha know…

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b.d.  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:47:26pm

re: #275 Citizen K

In light of this entire snit, I predict that the New York Times will publicly announce that they’re renewing Bret Stephen’s contract for another 5 years…

And the creation of a NYT ombudsman of online bullying to be picked by a committee consisting of members from Judicial Watch, National Review and Politico.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:47:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:48:57pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:50:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:50:21pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:50:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:51:58pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:54:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:54:28pm
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b.d.  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:55:28pm

re: #285 gocart mozart

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I eagerly await the Peggy Noonan gin soaked diatribe agreeing with Bret Stephens

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:56:21pm

Dorian is just 7 mph away from becoming a Category 5.

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b.d.  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:57:37pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dorian is just 7 mph away from becoming a Category 5.

Good thing we diverted that FEMA money to torturing brown people looking for a better life.

//

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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:57:38pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dorian is just 7 mph away from becoming a Category 5.

Wow, that happened fast!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:57:41pm

Trump is an idiot, Chapter 3^17.

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b.d.  Aug 30, 2019 • 5:59:19pm

re: #291 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Trump is an idiot, Chapter 3^17.

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I bet the folks at Mar-A-Lago are just now filling out their application for Federal Flood Insurance.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:00:43pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dorian is just 7 mph away from becoming a Category 5.

Not quite.

LOCATION…25.3N 71.0W
ABOUT 400 MI…645 KM E OF THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS
ABOUT 575 MI…925 KM E OF WEST PALM BEACH FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…125 MPH…205 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…WNW OR 300 DEGREES AT 10 MPH…17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…950 MB…28.05 INCHES

Category four is 113 knots-130 mph-209 k/h

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:03:36pm

re: #292 b.d.

I bet the folks at Mar-A-Lago are just now filling out their application for Federal Flood Insurance.

Presuming Mar-a-Grifto survives, Trump will probably have FEMA set up its local operations centre there. Might as well charge ‘em whilst they’re in Florida.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:03:47pm

re: #293 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Not quite.

LOCATION…25.3N 71.0W
ABOUT 400 MI…645 KM E OF THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS
ABOUT 575 MI…925 KM E OF WEST PALM BEACH FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…125 MPH…205 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…WNW OR 300 DEGREES AT 10 MPH…17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…950 MB…28.05 INCHES

Category four is 113 knots-130 mph-209 k/h

NHC says it’s a Cat 4; see my #282

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TedStriker  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:03:54pm

re: #292 b.d.

I bet the folks at Mar-A-Lago are just now filling out their application for Federal Flood Insurance.

It’s worse than that…since Mar-A-Lago is used as the Southern White House, we’re all on the hook for anything that happens to it as long as Trump is POTUS.

At least, that’s Trump’s view, I’m sure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:04:28pm

Cat 5 is 137 155 mph (135 kt)

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:07:39pm

Ass end of a thread:

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aatharuv  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:08:40pm

re: #294 Anymouse 🌹🎃

My worry is that the Orange genius will try to commandeer resources meant for emergency management to protect his assets in the area and cause harm for everyone else.

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sagehen  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:09:26pm

re: #285 gocart mozart

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Somebody more literate than I needs to write a Bret Stephens/Chekhov crossover fanfic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:10:14pm
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Dread Pirate  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:11:27pm

000
WTNT65 KNHC 310027
TCUAT5

Hurricane Dorian Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL052019
830 PM EDT Fri Aug 30 2019

…DORIAN STRENGTHENS TO A CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE…

Data from the NOAA Hurricane Hunters indicate that Dorian has
strengthened to an extremely dangerous category 4 hurricane with
maximum sustained winds near 130 mph (215 km/h). This increase in
intensity will be reflected in the forecast issued at 1100 pm EDT
(0300 UTC).

SUMMARY OF 830 PM AST…0030 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…25.3N 71.0W
ABOUT 400 MI…645 KM E OF THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS
ABOUT 575 MI…925 KM E OF WEST PALM BEACH FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…130 MPH…215 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…WNW OR 300 DEGREES AT 10 MPH…17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…950 MB…28.05 INCHES

$$
Forecaster Cangialosi/Latto

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Decatur Deb  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:11:36pm

re: #291 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:12:11pm

Tweeting via SMS is an incredibly outdated feature in the modern smart phone era and Jack should have de-linked his account from his phone number a long time ago to prevent this kind of attack. Fucking moron.

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:12:22pm

re: #299 aatharuv

A good friend of mine, his girlfriend, and their toddler son live in Palm Beach. Truth be told I’m worried sick.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:13:22pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

NHC says it’s a Cat 4; see my #282

Hmm. I just got that from the NHC.

Aha, I just saw the UPDATE button on the page when I refreshed it.

Data from the NOAA Hurricane Hunters indicate that Dorian has
strengthened to an extremely dangerous category 4 hurricane with
maximum sustained winds near 130 mph (215 km/h). This increase in
intensity will be reflected in the forecast issued at 1100 pm EDT
(0300 UTC).

It’s still quite a way from category five.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:13:41pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:15:47pm

re: #304 goddamnedfrank

Tweeting via SMS is an incredibly outdated feature in the modern smart phone era and Jack should have de-linked his account from his phone number a long time ago to prevent this kind of attack. Fucking moron.

I suppose they only fixed that for him. I also suppose they’d rather do that than kick the Nazis off their platform.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:16:17pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:17:29pm

re: #304 goddamnedfrank

Tweeting via SMS is an incredibly outdated feature in the modern smart phone era and Jack should have de-linked his account from his phone number a long time ago to prevent this kind of attack. Fucking moron.

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If I was CEO of a social media company worth billions you’d need a hundred character password, an iris scan, a thumb print, a unique keyfob and a cc of my goddamned blood to access my account.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:19:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:20:47pm
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b.d.  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:21:46pm

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

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When Joe Walsh polls as high a Tulsi does (i’d bet he already is) then I am sure that the same voices will be demanding that he gets to debate the guy he’s running against.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:22:49pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:23:49pm

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

Susan Sarandon quote tweeting Michael Tracey being retweeted by Richard Spencer. The moonbat/wingnut cirlce is complete.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:23:52pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:25:36pm

Yikes, local temperature prediction for Monday is 97°F. Back to summer. Temps in the low fifties each night.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:27:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:29:34pm

re: #314 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That was three hours ago.

This was two hours ago:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:34:18pm

Very much looking mean in the IR:

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:35:51pm

re: #320 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That well-defined of an eye is no bueno.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:40:04pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:44:05pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:47:33pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:47:39pm

Awwwwww. Trump was blocked from dropping a nuke on the hurricane so he went to Plan B!

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:50:40pm

re: #325 Joe Bacon 🌹

::: eyeroll :::
DT would do something like that.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:52:01pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:54:08pm

re: #327 gocart mozart

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…and Steven Miller gets off on that…

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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:54:29pm

re: #328 Joe Bacon 🌹

Beat me to it

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Mescalero09  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:55:56pm

re: #323 gocart mozart

Fido dropped a deuce that had more cognizance than that duo.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 6:57:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:02:22pm
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:15:28pm

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

Aww. They are sooo cute. :)

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plansbandc  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:22:19pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:26:30pm
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bratwurst  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:27:40pm
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sagehen  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:28:19pm

re: #334 plansbandc

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Is it a popular or unpopular opinion to say I think hairless vaginas are GROSS? Grown women trying to make their bits look childish is just… gross.

(also, hot wax is bad enough on my lower legs. No way in hell am I allowing it near my most sensitive spots.)

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calochortus  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:28:45pm

re: #334 plansbandc

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I was gonna make a witty comment, but I just can’t. The stupid. It burns.

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calochortus  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:29:32pm

re: #337 sagehen

Is it a popular or unpopular opinion to say I think hairless vaginas are GROSS? Grown women trying to make their bits look childish is just… gross.

(also, hot wax is bad enough on my lower legs. No way in hell am I allowing it near my most sensitive spots.)

Also if you have hair in your actual vagina, you might want to consult a medical professional.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:29:33pm
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plansbandc  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:30:33pm

re: #337 sagehen

I think it’s trending towards a small strip again. No Sherwood Forest though.

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:30:37pm

re: #338 calochortus

The stupid. It burns.

Here, there’s this.

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calochortus  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:33:05pm

re: #342 teleskiguy

Here, there’s this.

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Thanks.

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plansbandc  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:34:23pm

Just doing my part to add to the intellectual value here. :D

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:35:43pm

When you’ve lost Rod Dreher

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:39:27pm
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sagehen  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:40:17pm

Apparently, Aaron Burr had a secret black family.washingtonpost.com

Stuart Fisk Johnson, the president of the Aaron Burr Association and a descendant of Aaron Burr, said the recognition is long overdue.

“A few people didn’t want to go into it because Aaron’s first wife, Theodosia, was still alive, and dying of cancer” when Aaron Burr fathered John Pierre, Johnson said. “But the embarrassment is not as important as it is to acknowledge and embrace actual living, robust, accomplished children.”

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:41:06pm

re: #344 plansbandc

Just doing my part to add to the intellectual value here. :D

Pull my finger.

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b.d.  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:43:33pm
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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:45:08pm

re: #157 gocart mozart

I miss Mollie

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In the mid-90’s, Mollie used to have a monthly get-together at her house in Travis Heights, called Final Friday. Bring a bottle of wine, a snack, and talk politics in the New Democratic wasteland of Texas, where if you had an “R” after your name, you were going to get elected in any State election (the last statewide D elected in Texas was in 1994).

My wife and I loved her. She was brash, profane, cruelly honest, and did not suffer fools wisely. Well, not at all, really. The attendees were the usual old D hacks, die-hards, has-beens and new wannabes, and new wave D’s who wanted to work to kick the beehive over and reinvent the Party in Texas. I guess we were in that latter group. But sitting on her back porch smoking cigarettes and drinking wine, listening to Mollie and Jim Hightower riff has on how the R’s had completely upended the electorate in ‘94 and how complacent the Dems had been that year (I worked on Richards’ campaign that year, as an East Texas campaign coordinator out of Austin, which was disastrous. They had no clue of the storm surge that was coming at them and did, frankly, nothing. They got Gohmert).

So I guess the long and short of it is that it was my distinct pleasure to count Mollie as a friend, a drinking companion, and a political foil. We smoked like chimnies on her back porch. She was just a peach. She Who Must Obeyed and I met with her a few months before the breast cancer finally killed at her house. We knew the end was coming, we knew she was still compus mentus, and we had cleared the visit through the phalanx of dear friends who were protecting her.

We sat, we talked, we decided who was the biggest chain smoker on the porch (not me, Mollie), and the future of Texas politics, which she insisted would come back around when the rural community would realize that the R’s were using them as pawns in a much larger game of dominance.

She was a hurricane, a tornado of truth. We both loved her.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:49:11pm
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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:50:07pm

re: #350 austin_blue

I envy you that experience!

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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:52:14pm

re: #351 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Good! It sounded as thought it was just bad luck.

Edit. Maybe I didn’t understand and jumped the gun.

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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:53:15pm

re: #353 retired cynic

Edit. Maybe I didn’t understand and jumped the gun.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:54:36pm

re: #350 austin_blue

That is quite a set of personal memories for an icon of a woman. You sound very proud to have known her.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 7:56:44pm

re: #353 retired cynic

Good! It sounded as thought it was just bad luck.

Edit. Maybe I didn’t understand and jumped the gun.

Yes, the shooting was bad luck.

The conviction on the gun charge was overturned based on the fact the judge did not advise the jury that momentary possession was one way they could view the case and that he simply threw the gun away because it surprised him when it went off not knowing there was a gun wrapped up in cloth, which would not qualify as “felon in possession of a firearm.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:03:34pm

Good thing we have the moral scolds at Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram banning this but not Nazis and misogynists.

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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:04:57pm

re: #357 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Good thing we have the moral scolds at Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram banning this but not Nazis and misogynists.

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Good interview with her on NPR yesterday morning, On Point. She is great.

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calochortus  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:06:59pm

re: #358 retired cynic

Good interview with her on NPR yesterday morning, On Point. She is great.

Thanks, I’ll have to check it out.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:09:51pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:14:53pm

re: #360 gocart mozart

Usually the Pol Pot slur is used for atheists. So I guess Lawyers, Guns, and Money is worse than atheists? /s

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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:19:05pm

I would have thought the NYT would have decided BS was past his sell by date, but perhaps they are just enjoying seeing all the social media buzz. No PR is bad PR?

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:20:26pm

re: #362 retired cynic

The Thin-Skinned Privileged Man Of Record.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:27:47pm

re: #326 PhillyPretzel

Might be safer with a nuke.

Being hit by one of those things at 130 mph would not be fun. //

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:29:54pm

Bret Stephens, how low you’ve fallen when you get called out by this guy.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:30:11pm

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

God. They’re adorable.

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:31:22pm

re: #355 Anymouse 🌹🎃

That is quite a set of personal memories for an icon of a woman. You sound very proud to have known her.

You have no idea. She was a force of nature.

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:32:53pm

re: #352 retired cynic

I envy you that experience!

You should. She was a treat.

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Chrysicat  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:33:33pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:49:28pm
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Belafon  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:51:40pm

re: #347 sagehen

Apparently, Aaron Burr had a secret black family.washingtonpost.com

Is Newt Gingrinch related to him?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:55:05pm

Dorian rapidly intensifying.

LOCATION…25.5N 71.4W
ABOUT 545 MI…880 KM E OF WEST PALM BEACH FLORIDA
ABOUT 375 MI…605 KM E OF THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…140 MPH…220 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…WNW OR 300 DEGREES AT 10 MPH…17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…948 MB…28.00 INCHES

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plansbandc  Aug 30, 2019 • 8:59:35pm

Always had a mild dislike for sobriety, but Shitler made me loathe it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:00:48pm

re: #373 plansbandc

Always had a mild dislike for sobriety, but Shitler made me loathe it.

The tangerine wankmaggot will cost me my liver. I blame Obama.////

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:07:35pm
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Belafon  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:08:53pm

re: #375 jaunte

I legally have the right to commit adultery. I shouldn’t do it, though.

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:11:44pm

re: #346 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Pennsylvania appeals court rules finger-gun pointing a crime]

Fucking real guns that kill real people aren’t a crime. But fingers? Are you fucking kidding me??

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:13:10pm

Digital incitement.

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:13:18pm

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I really miss Darth.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:15:00pm

re: #337 sagehen

Is it a popular or unpopular opinion to say I think hairless vaginas are GROSS? Grown women trying to make their bits look childish is just… gross.

(also, hot wax is bad enough on my lower legs. No way in hell am I allowing it near my most sensitive spots.)

Well, not being a woman and all, I don’t know what sort of opinion I should have on that sensitive subject.

I look at it like shaving anything else, whether it’s women shaving legs or men shaving beards. Wanna do it? Fine. Don’t wanna do it? Fine.

Fun fact (putting on erotic Romance editor hat): Shaving down there did not originate from trying to look prepubescent.

It originally came from moral scolds who were trying to outlaw nude photography after cameras were starting to become popular.

Because they couldn’t bring themselves to say things like “vulva” in legislation (see also Michigan Republicans recently chiding a state Democratic legislator for using the same word), they wrote laws prohibiting the showing of “pubic hair” (which also included armpits).

Shaving those areas became the way to get around those laws.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:15:06pm

Police: At least 10 shot at stadium in Alabama after HS football game

Mobile Police are responding to a shooting at Ladd-Peebles stadium, according to the Mobile County Sheriff’s Office crime map.

There was a high school football game between Leflore High School and Williamson High School at the stadium.

According to witnesses, the game had already ended at the time of the shooting.

Witnesses say there was a fight in the stands several minutes before the end of the game.

This is a developing story.

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:21:00pm

re: #381 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Police: At least 10 shot at stadium in Alabama after HS football game

Freedom,
, liberty. Sheikh bullshit.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:23:14pm
Police said two people were in custody as of 10:20 p.m. local time. Police said they are questioning them, but have not confirmed if they are the shooters.

Police say the age of those wounded in the shooting ranges from 15 to 18.

and

“This is unacceptable for people to not to be able to come out and enjoy an event watching their children play at a football game and watching their children perform in the band,” said Mobile Police Chief Lawrence Battiste.

More at CBS 17 in Raleigh-Durham, NC:
cbs17.com

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:31:40pm

re: #382 austin_blue

Freedom,
, liberty. Sheikh bullshit.

Fuck this I-pad, I can’t fix the text. My iMac has died and I have to make a decision on whether to fix it or buy a new one. It’s ancient, a 2012 27”” model.

Bother.

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mmmirele  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:34:52pm

re: #370 gocart mozart

My ex-boyfriend in Boston was recruiting people to go out and protest the straight pride parade tomorrow. Apparently there are two actions taking place. I haven’t figured out what the difference between them is.

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:37:33pm

re: #384 austin_blue

And I am done for the night, reading Charlie Stross. You should do so, too.

Night all.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:37:34pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:41:02pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:42:29pm

re: #385 mmmirele

My ex-boyfriend in Boston was recruiting people to go out and protest the straight pride parade tomorrow. Apparently there are two actions taking place. I haven’t figured out what the difference between them is.

According to Boston dot com, there is only one.

boston.com

This is a report the police has put out for the public regarding the event.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:47:34pm

Yay, guns.

Officials cancel Cambridge Carnival due to ‘increasing safety concerns’ (also Boston dot com)

Cambridge officials announced late Thursday that the 27th Annual Cambridge Carnival is canceled, citing concerns about safety and the gun violence near Boston’s Caribbean Carnival last weekend.

In a joint statement, the City of Cambridge and organizers from Cambridge Carnival International said the safety of the community and carnival participants was paramount in making the decision to call off the event that had been scheduled for Sept. 8.

“For the past 26 years, the Cambridge Carnival has been an important cultural event for the City of Cambridge and the greater region,” the statement reads. “However, there have been increasing safety concerns associated with this year’s event due in part to the gun violence that occurred last weekend in the immediate vicinity of Boston’s Caribbean Carnival Parade.”

(more)

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vgranucci  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:48:27pm

re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg

Not just heaven and hell. There are numerous religions that believe one receives some form of divine judgment after reaching the afterlife.

Goes back at least to the ancient Egyptians.

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:48:55pm

re: #388 gocart mozart

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2019 • 9:51:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 10:00:09pm
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jaunte  Aug 30, 2019 • 10:01:11pm

New York Times, historically excited by go-getters.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 10:11:47pm

re: #395 jaunte

New York Times, historically excited by go-getters.

The print version of Twitter, before there was a Twitter.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 10:15:31pm

re: #393 jaunte

Interesting word “knouted” in that article. I was unfamiliar with it. I had to look it up:

knout (n): a flogging whip with a lash of leather thongs twisted with wire used (as in czarist Russia) for punishing criminals

So the article says the 38% who objected to the Third Reich felt as though they’d been flogged into it.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 10:37:48pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 10:42:10pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 10:44:51pm

“Candace Owens was created in a FOX News lab.”

Jimmy Snow (Mr. Atheist) with the Stupidest Tweet of the Day, this one from Candace Owens.

(14:37)

Candace Owens is a Winner… of Stupid Tweet of the Day!

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 10:50:14pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 10:50:44pm
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Amory Blaine  Aug 30, 2019 • 10:55:48pm

re: #142 goddamnedfrank
Mr Cheesle

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2019 • 10:57:41pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:01:25pm
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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:23:49pm

re: #405 goddamnedfrank

That thread rocks……

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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:24:10pm
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ericblair  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:31:26pm

re: #399 gocart mozart

Not only was his account hacked but his normal headwear was replaced with something that made him look like either a human microphone or a stewardess from 2001: A Space Odyssey

“Sir, the bathroom is for customers only.”

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:31:56pm

re: #406 Dave In Austin

re: #407 Dave In Austin

I love how the Waffle House Index is a real goddamned thing.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:36:14pm

Too loud! You may want to turn down audio before playing.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:54:08pm

re: #407 Dave In Austin

Waffle House Index (Wikipedia)

The Waffle House Index is an informal metric used by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to determine the effect of a storm and the likely scale of assistance required for disaster recovery.

If you get there and the Waffle House is closed? That’s really bad…

The measure is based on the reputation of Waffle House for having good disaster preparedness and staying open during extreme weather, or reopening quickly afterwards.

(more)

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sagehen  Aug 30, 2019 • 11:54:15pm

re: #398 gocart mozart

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 12:00:58am

re: #412 sagehen

Not that I wish harm on anyone, but considering Donald Trump’s age, one can hope that particular security risk won’t last long after he’s out of office.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 12:05:16am

Gamergaters never believed anything Zoe Quinn said — until she signal-boosted accusations of abuse against a male feminist ex (Goes to We Hunted the Mammoth, more at the link):

#MeToo hit the gaming industry hard this week, with an ever-growing number of women and non-binary people coming forward to accuse men in the industry — including some big names — of rape and harassment and other forms of abuse.

One of the accusers is #Gamergate nemesis Zoe Quinn, who three days ago declared that indie game developer Alec Holowka (“Night in the Woods”) had been abusive and manipulative during a brief relationship between the two nearly a decade ago. “I was scared to leave. I was scared to tell anyone,” Quinn wrote in an account posted to Twitter. “I spent a lot of that time hiding in the bathroom from him.”

Several days later, Quinn returned to Twitter to signal-boost the allegations of another game developer who had accused Quinn’s former partner Alex Lifschitz of taking nude photos during sex without consent. Quinn said that they (Quinn’s preferred pronoun) had confronted Lifschitz with this and he had confessed. “[M]y faith in humanity and ability to trust people is severely shaken,” Quinn tweeted. ” I’m disgusted that someone I trusted with my life was capable of this.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 12:27:50am

My wife made our annual charitable contribution to the village public library.

One of the requirements for a public library in a town our size in Nebraska is it must subscribe to three print periodicals per year.

The village board budgets two subscriptions: “Nebraska Life” and “Grit.”

We pay for the third: “Foreign Affairs.” For a while we used to also subsidise “The Economist” and “Capper’s Farmer.”

I dropped “The Economist” over them promoting Steve Bannon in a supposed “Free Speech Symposium” in New York, and dropped Capper’s since there wasn’t much interest in town for that one.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2019 • 12:28:19am

re: #413 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Not that I wish harm on anyone, but considering Donald Trump’s age, one can hope that particular security risk won’t last long after he’s out of office.

One sub-strain of JFK assassination lore holds that he was whacked after it was judged that his philandering was a major security risk. Several conspiracists add the variation that Marilyn Monroe was killed as a warning to JFK, and that his failure to heed this made him the target.
See Judith Exner, who was not only involved with Kennedy but with the gangsters who were recruited to help assassinate Fidel Castro.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2019 • 12:34:04am

From Russia with Love….

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 12:35:12am

re: #416 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

One sub-strain of JFK assassination lore holds that he was whacked after it was judged that his philandering was a major security risk. Several conspiracists add the variation that Marilyn Monroe was killed a warning to JFK, and that his failure to heed this made him the target.
See Judith Exner, who was not only involved with Kennedy but with the gangsters who were recruited to help assassinate Fedel Castro.

The Marilyn Monroe angle always fascinated me.

A movie star who was pretty much exploited her whole life, found dead, and the coroner’s report declared it was an overdose of Seconal and alcohol which killed her.

To make the conspiracy work, she would have somehow had to have been forced to drink a bunch of alcohol and take an overdose of barbiturates which were already prescribed to her (so presumably some doc would have had to have been in on the conspiracy to kill her by prescribing the drugs).

It seems rather thin to me. (Either that, or someone is out to whack me the same way, since I also have a barbiturate prescription and Blackheart rum right now.) DeEp StAtE!!uno!21£!!$

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2019 • 12:36:50am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 31, 2019 • 12:43:38am

re: #418 Anymouse 🌹🎃

One theory I remember reading years ago was that Marilyn was injected with the drugs that killed her.

Of course, the sad truth is Marilyn Monroe was a deeply unhappy woman, possibly emotionally disturbed and her committing suicide is the most obvious answer. No conspiracy theory is needed to explain her troubled life and untimely death.

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2019 • 12:44:07am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 12:45:55am

The collapsed irrigation tunnel in Wyoming has been repaired, allowing water to start moving through the irrigation system to Scott’s Bluff County here in Nebraska again.

Repairs to the second of three tunnels was pretty quick considering the damage after all the rain we’ve received. Temporary repairs were completed in a couple weeks. Full repair will commence after harvest.

The tunnel collapse was in Fort Laramie, Wyo. in a 2,000-foot tunnel. The canal is 120 miles long.

In the meantime, all our canals in the next county east are up to the banks due to all the rain, and the canal which runs through my town (the Beerline Canal) is still in danger of overtopping the banks and flooding the homes on my street. The North Platte River (normally near dry this time of year) is flooding downstream of us and at the top of its banks here.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 12:48:04am

re: #421 teleskiguy

Another pro-fascist.

I don’t understand how any former Marine (or any veteran at all) could be pro-fascist.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 12:53:24am

re: #421 teleskiguy

Kohfield told [Texas Rep. Dan] Crenshaw that Congress needed to take immediate steps to declare antifa a terrorist organization. Otherwise, he and other veterans would have no choice but to begin systematically killing antifa members “until we have achieved genocide.”

Yeah douchecanoe, and you would be opposed by other veterans. Some of us still uphold our affirmation to uphold the Constitution.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 2:02:38am

Shameless page promotion.Flag Observances for September (goes to the right-hand column of Little Green Footballs)

If you’re not familiar with the Flag Code or subsequent resolutions by Congress, you’d be surprised at how many flag observances are noted in US law and custom.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 31, 2019 • 2:14:01am

Generally when talking about the fake-centrism-fetishist “both sides” pundit claque I pick on David Brooks…

…because, shit, even I like to take the easy route sometimes…

…but Bret Stephens right now is the perfect example of how they don’t have jobs because they’re smart, erudite, literate, or even consistent in their values.

They literally have jobs because they, by nature, reflect the shallowness and self-regard of the wealthy back at them, slightly ornamented with prose. They’re the safe space makers and the participation trophy distributors for mediocre fuckers who dumbed their way into cash and want to believe against all evidence and common sense that their success in a single instance is a measure of overall merit and intellect.

Bret’s sure Everything Is Hitler because it’s happening to him, and the One Rule is that “…it’s never supposed to happen to me.” It’s not Hitler any other time because the corellary of the One Rule is “…most people actually deserve what they get, and definitely do if I’m the one serving it.”

These people literally exist to form a protective coating of soothing babble around anything who gets the faint but distinct sense that maybe they aren’t entitled to deference and exceptionality.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 2:19:29am

re: #426 The Ghost of a Flea

Why do I think I would be a better political pundit columnist? Is it because I haven’t been corrupted by wealth, power, and a college education? /s

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ckkatz  Aug 31, 2019 • 3:17:13am

Interesting…

Just read a Consumer Reports article on “review hijacking”.

Amazon has a feature where a seller can aggregate the listings of several items they sell. Say a sweater in different colors or sizes. This make it easier for a customer to find a specific product.

When the listings are aggregated in a single listing, so are the reviews.

However, unscrupulous sellers have figured out a loophole and are using it to boost ratings on their products and services.

hijackers bundle together the product page listings and use a variety of tactics to get the listings uploaded into Amazon’s back-end system. “These [products] will be out of stock, but their reviews are all connected together,” says Bergman. The only item in stock will be the item that the review hijacker is hoping to sell, boosted with positive reviews from other items.

The best safeguard is to

scroll down through [all] the comments. “My recommendation to all customers is to look at not only good reviews, but also the bad reviews,” Thomson says. “How recently were they posted? Do you see reviews for completely different products?”

consumerreports.org

edit - removed an orphaned comma and 2 quote marks

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ckkatz  Aug 31, 2019 • 3:27:38am

The Washington Post had an interesting article Friday on the rhetoric used by conservative apologists. And how it duplicates that used by the pre-Civil War Southern supporters.

After the El Paso shooting, Ben Shapiro, a popular conservative podcaster, asked Americans to draw a line between the few conservatives who are white supremacists and those who, like him, aren’t. Almost all Americans are “on the same side,” he said, and “we should be mourning together.” In his telling, we aren’t, for “one simple reason: Too many on the political left [are] castigating the character of those who disagree,” lumping conservatives and political nonconformists together with racists and xenophobes.

I grew up in a conservative family. The people I talk to most frequently, the people I call when I need help, are conservative. I’m not inclined to paint conservatives as thoughtless bigots. But a few years ago, listening to the voices and arguments of commentators like Shapiro, I began to feel a very specific deja vu I couldn’t initially identify. It felt as if the arguments I was reading were eerily familiar. I found myself Googling lines from articles, especially when I read the rhetoric of a group of people we could call the “reasonable right.”

[I]t felt frustrating: When I read Weiss, when I listened to Shapiro, when I watched Peterson or read the supposedly heterodox online magazine Quillette, what was I reminded of?

Thinking back on those debates, I finally figured it out. The reasonable right’s rhetoric is exactly the same as the antebellum rhetoric I’d read so much of. The same exact words. The same exact arguments. Rhetoric, to be precise, in support of the slave-owning South.

The Reasonable Rebels
By Eve Fairbanks
washingtonpost.com

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ckkatz  Aug 31, 2019 • 3:28:55am

Well, off to run some errands. bbl

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2019 • 3:54:24am

re: #331 gocart mozart

All of these were made in the moments immediately after a time traveler told [John C Calhoun] about Barack Obama.

I think that look was supposed to show deep resolve and spiritual fire.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 31, 2019 • 4:18:56am

re: #428 ckkatz

The only useful reviews (IMHO) on any site are the poor reviews. The 4- and 5-star reviews are (in general) unhelpful in determining quality of accuracy. Read one of the good reviews to make sure someone says it does what it’s supposed to do; read bad reviews to find out why it has problems. Apply some critical thinking while reading. Decide.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2019 • 4:40:25am

This guy is not right in the head. There is thin skinned and there’s Bret Stephens level thin skinned.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2019 • 4:46:20am

re: #432 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The only useful reviews (IMHO) on any site are the poor reviews. The 4- and 5-star reviews are (in general) unhelpful in determining quality of accuracy. Read one of the good reviews to make sure someone says it does what it’s supposed to do; read bad reviews to find out why it has problems. Apply some critical thinking while reading. Decide.

as soon as online reviews became a thing, people were gaming them, one the one hand, fudging fake good reviews while others were attempting to extort deals by threatening a cascade of negative reviews.

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:01:14am

Damn, last day of August, where did it all go?!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:03:04am

re: #435 Shropshire Slasher

Damn, last day of August, where did it all go?!

My sentiments exactly, although here in Germany, the best weeks of the season are yet to come; I advise anyone coming to visit to get here in May/early June or September/early October to get the most ideal weather.

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steve_davis  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:10:31am

re: #346 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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apparently it did cause alarm because someone else called 911. black barbequers, take note. your barbequing is now a misdemeanor in pennsylvania.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:11:15am
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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:12:19am

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

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OFFS, another damned sidewinder?

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steve_davis  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:16:48am

re: #380 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Well, not being a woman and all, I don’t know what sort of opinion I should have on that sensitive subject.

I look at it like shaving anything else, whether it’s women shaving legs or men shaving beards. Wanna do it? Fine. Don’t wanna do it? Fine.

Fun fact (putting on erotic Romance editor hat): Shaving down there did not originate from trying to look prepubescent.

It originally came from moral scolds who were trying to outlaw nude photography after cameras were starting to become popular.

Because they couldn’t bring themselves to say things like “vulva” in legislation (see also Michigan Republicans recently chiding a state Democratic legislator for using the same word), they wrote laws prohibiting the showing of “pubic hair” (which also included armpits).

Shaving those areas became the way to get around those laws.

it also helps you avoid infestation by a group of dorals.

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steve_davis  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:18:49am

re: #384 austin_blue

Fuck this I-pad, I can’t fix the text. My iMac has died and I have to make a decision on whether to fix it or buy a new one. It’s ancient, a 2012 27”” model.

Bother.

buy a surface book 2. you can use it as a tablet, and it’s Windows, which means you can do real work on it and possibly even replace the battery when that eventually dies, rather than being told everything inside is actually glued down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:22:09am

re: #437 steve_davis

apparently it did cause alarm because someone else called 911. black barbequers, take note. your barbequing is now a misdemeanor in pennsylvania.

headline is intentionally and sensationalistically misleading.

finger-pointing is not a crime, causing a criminal alarm is a misdemeanor and in this case, the court saw it fulfilled by his finger-pointing gesture.

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steve_davis  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:26:23am

re: #412 sagehen

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he won’t be a security threat. he’ll be in a supermax, where he will be found drowned in a toilet, after security cameras on his wing temporarily fail. I’m starting to think the villain in Watchmen was right about stuff.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:26:45am

re: #441 steve_davis

buy a surface book 2. you can use it as a tablet, and it’s Windows, which means you can do real work on it and possibly even replace the battery when that eventually dies, rather than being told everything inside is actually glued down.

I got a really good deal on a reconditioned Surface on eBay. Factory reconditioned at a fraction of the cost. I paid like $300 for a good model.

I never got a bad device from eBay.

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jeffreyw  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:39:40am

Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:40:51am

re: #436 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My sentiments exactly, although here in Germany, the best weeks of the season are yet to come; I advise anyone coming to visit to get here in May/early June or September/early October to get the most ideal weather.

Pretty much the same here in Czech Republic too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:53:10am

“number one shoe”

mostly he’s retweeting a bunch of old stuff of people saying nice things about him

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b.d.  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:56:12am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

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mostly he’s retweeting a bunch of old stuff of people saying nice things about him

It’s called Hurricane monitoring!
(also avoiding the Ukraine leader by bailing on the Poland visit)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:58:45am
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DangerMan  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:59:50am

re: #426 The Ghost of a Flea

Generally when talking about the fake-centrism-fetishist “both sides” pundit claque I pick on David Brooks…

…because, shit, even I like to take the easy route sometimes…

…but Bret Stephens right now is the perfect example of how they don’t have jobs because they’re smart, erudite, literate, or even consistent in their values.

They literally have jobs because they, by nature, reflect the shallowness and self-regard of the wealthy back at them, slightly ornamented with prose. They’re the safe space makers and the participation trophy distributors for mediocre fuckers who dumbed their way into cash and want to believe against all evidence and common sense that their success in a single instance is a measure of overall merit and intellect.

Bret’s sure Everything Is Hitler because it’s happening to him, and the One Rule is that “…it’s never supposed to happen to me.” It’s not Hitler any other time because the corellary of the One Rule is “…most people actually deserve what they get, and definitely do if I’m the one serving it.”

These people literally exist to form a protective coating of soothing babble around anything who gets the faint but distinct sense that maybe they aren’t entitled to deference and exceptionality.

+1

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:04:55am

When he says Westerhout “had a bad night” he likely means his goons are sending death threats.

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:07:40am

re: #451 Barefoot Grin

When he says Westerhout “had a bad night” he likely means his goons are sending death threats.

I would say more likely that he set his attack dog lawyers upon her, with the threats that if she didn’t clam up post haste, then she was going to be visited by a process server in the near future. Hence the “apology” and seeking of “forgiveness.”

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DangerMan  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:08:35am

re: #380 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Well, not being a woman and all, I don’t know what sort of opinion I should have on that sensitive subject.

I look at it like shaving anything else, whether it’s women shaving legs or men shaving beards. Wanna do it? Fine. Don’t wanna do it? Fine.

Fun fact (putting on erotic Romance editor hat): Shaving down there did not originate from trying to look prepubescent.

It originally came from moral scolds who were trying to outlaw nude photography after cameras were starting to become popular.

Because they couldn’t bring themselves to say things like “vulva” in legislation (see also Michigan Republicans recently chiding a state Democratic legislator for using the same word), they wrote laws prohibiting the showing of “pubic hair” (which also included armpits).

Shaving those areas became the way to get around those laws.

This is why Lgf rocks!

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:09:23am

re: #452 Targetpractice

I would say more likely that he set his attack dog lawyers upon her, with the threats that if she didn’t clam up post haste, then she was going to be visited by a process server in the near future. Hence the “apology” and seeking of “forgiveness.”

That makes sense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:11:22am

re: #337 sagehen

Is it a popular or unpopular opinion to say I think hairless vaginas are GROSS? Grown women trying to make their bits look childish is just… gross.

(also, hot wax is bad enough on my lower legs. No way in hell am I allowing it near my most sensitive spots.)

I am fine with well trimmed but do not understand the obsession with removing it all

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:19:53am

Of course, the whole “bad night” business isn’t really about being nice to her, it’s more Donny doing what he does best: issuing a non-denial denial. In this case, he’s saying that anything she told the press was due to her having a “bad night” and thus can’t be taken seriously.

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DangerMan  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:20:21am

re: #383 Anymouse 🌹🎃

and

More at CBS 17 in Raleigh-Durham, NC:
cbs17.com

This is unacceptable for people to not to be able to come out and enjoy an event watching their children play at a football game and watching their children perform in the band,” said Mobile Police Chief Lawrence Battiste

Sorry chief, but no.
This is true for all people everywhere doing whatever they want to do with their lives and time.
We’ve been saying it like forever.

Just cause this happened in your town doesn’t make children’s football and band more important than an outdoor concert in vegas or shopping at Wal-Mart, or even (gasp) drinking and dancing in a bar, gay or straight.

Oh, or children going to school, right?

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DangerMan  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:26:31am

re: #410 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Too loud! You may want to turn down audio before playing.

[Embedded content]

I repeat what I just wrote

This selfish, why us, sentiment is nuts:

This is a high school football game and should be a place of fun competition for everyone! Not violence

It shouldn’t happen anywhere, to anyone

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:28:16am

I’m wondering if Reddit is under DDoS attack. In particular, the Hong Kong subreddit and their live coverage of ongoing events in Hong Kong.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:36:39am

re: #459 Dr Lizardo

Check out the front page of The Washington Post. They have an article on the Hong Kong Protests.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:41:30am

re: #460 PhillyPretzel

Check out the front page of The Washington Post. They have an article on the Hong Kong Protests.

Last I saw, there’s Molotov cocktails, water cannons and rubber bullets flying around. Shit’s getting out of hand - and that’s just the pretext Beijing needs to move in to “restore order”….well, pending a request from HK’s Chief Executive Carrie Lam.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:49:13am

re: #461 Dr Lizardo

Last I saw, there’s Molotov cocktails, water cannons and rubber bullets flying around. Shit’s getting out of hand - and that’s just the pretext Beijing needs to move in to “restore order”….well, pending a request from HK’s Chief Executive Carrie Lam.

Peaceful Protest is the most annoying thing in the world because the authorities often do not want the moral onus of being seen clamping down on it.

Violent, protest, on the other hand, calls for “appropriate measures”

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stpaulbear  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:09:41am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

“number one shoe”

He grew up with Ed Sullivan. “We’ve got a really great shoe for you tonight…”

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Florida Panhandler  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:11:38am

re: #136 Chrysicat

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I’m convinced the current preferred Fundamentalist Christian social and government structure is trending towards an Americanized version of feudalism. White male -only elections would use landowner acreage and monetary wealth to award credited numbers of votes to individual men.. the richer you are, the more votes you get.

The following is conjecture but would make for an interesting paperback novel. It also is not too far off what real life has determined is actually capable of becoming reality:

Would-be Titles of equivalent English nobility would be centered on a US military theme. The use of the titles ascending in power and area of control are Lieutenant (Sir), Captain (Baron), Major (Lord), Governor (each state has 1, Earl), Commander (yes, a product of Handmaiden’s Tale lore commandeered by the right wing, Duke) and finally the President. The President would be a life term up until he is assassinated. No term limits and no inherited titles.

Sound corny and ridiculous, yes? So did a President Trump back in the 90’s.

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William Lewis  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:22:21am

re: #464 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I’m convinced the current preferred Fundamentalist Christian social and government structure is trending towards an Americanized version of feudalism. White male -only elections would use landowner acreage and monetary wealth to award credited numbers of votes to individual men.. the richer you are, the more votes you get.

The following is conjecture but would make for an interesting paperback novel. It also is not too far off what real life has determined is actually capable of becoming reality:

Would-be Titles of equivalent English nobility would be centered on a US military theme. The use of the titles ascending in power and area of control are Lieutenant (Sir), Captain (Baron), Major (Lord), Governor (each state has 1, Earl), Commander (yes, a product of Handmaiden’s Tale lore commandeered by the right wing, Duke) and finally the President. The President would be a life term up until he is assassinated. No term limits and no inherited titles.

Sound corny and ridiculous, yes? So did a President Trump back in the 90’s.

Above Gov & Below Commander - Count. (Ac”count”ant). Responsible for the revenues from several states in a group providing taxes, tariffs and other revenues to keep the Prez in style. Commander would be more of a Vice presidential slot with one east and one west of the Mississippi River.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:22:40am

re: #464 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I’m convinced the current preferred Fundamentalist Christian social and government structure is trending towards an Americanized version of feudalism. White male -only elections would use landowner acreage and monetary wealth to award credited numbers of votes to individual men.. the richer you are, the more votes you get.

The do love them some patriarchy. And yes, they will openly tell you that the vote should be limited to landholding male heads of family.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:41:59am
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William Lewis  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:47:11am

re: #464 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I’m convinced the current preferred Fundamentalist Christian social and government structure is trending towards an Americanized version of feudalism.

Still pondering this. What would be an appropriate status symbol for these newly ennobled twits? Sumptuary laws never work and firearms will still be too widely spread (even if only allowed to the free white males). No, I see the sword making a comeback. Not too large a one - a cross between the small sword and the spadroon or the old French epee’ would be most likely. Light enough to carry comfortably but heavy enough to duel with and I can bet there would be plenty of dueling going on in this world. All in the name of “a polite society” I am sure…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:49:31am

re: #468 William Lewis

Still pondering this. What would be an appropriate status symbol for these newly ennobled twits? Sumptuary laws never work and firearms will still be too widely spread (even if only allowed to the free white males). No, I see the sword making a comeback. Not too large a one - a cross between the small sword and the spadroon or the old French epee’ would be most likely. Light enough to carry comfortably but heavy enough to duel with and I can bet there would be plenty of dueling going on in this world. All in the name of “a polite society” I am sure…

at least fewer bystanders would be hurt by the cross-slashing than with guns

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:52:22am

re: #423 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Another pro-fascist.

I don’t understand how any former Marine (or any veteran at all) could be pro-fascist.

Unfortunately I have 2 nephew veterans and one niece veteran who are active in the 3%ers and militia movement. Oh and they love their Nazi brethren who defend the White Race and Jay-Zuss.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:57:17am

re: #427 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Why do I think I would be a better political pundit columnist? Is it because I haven’t been corrupted by wealth, power, and a college education? /s

I’ll reply with a quote from Frank Zappa, “An honest person knows the difference between kneeling down and bending over.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:03:59am

*snort*

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sagehen  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:08:47am

ATTN Anymouse:

Your Jane Kleeb was on AMJoy in the 10am Eastern hour, talking about Nebraska and farmers.. She was impressive.

Not sure how long it’ll take to get online, but you’ll want to see it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:15:27am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

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mostly he’s retweeting a bunch of old stuff of people saying nice things about him

Uh, Mr. President…Ed Sullivan is dead…

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:18:19am

It’s odd. When I click on retweets (for example, I want to see the comments directed to the retweeter and not the comments on the original) no comments appear this morning. Maybe a bug.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:20:05am

150 mph winds now

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:24:19am

re: #476 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is not good news. I have some relatives in Florida and I hope they are paying attention to the weather.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:25:17am

re: #477 PhillyPretzel

That is not good news. I have some relatives in Florida and I hope they are paying attention to the weather.

I just had a Skype call with MrBWS. They’re in Valdosta GA waiting to see what happens

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:27:08am

re: #478 Backwoods_Sleuth

No doubt my nephew who lives in Atlanta, GA is doing the same thing.

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stpaulbear  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:28:11am

re: #476 Backwoods_Sleuth

Still hoping that Dorian says ‘Ha ha, just kidding’, and heads straight for Maralago. I know this makes me a really bad person, but given that Dorian is certainly going to fuck some people over, I’d prefer it be a Trump grifting property.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:29:39am

re: #480 stpaulbear

You are not the only one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:29:45am

re: #479 PhillyPretzel

No doubt my nephew who lives in Atlanta, GA is doing the same thing.

One of my sisters lives in Ormond Beach. She’s riding it out like she usually does.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:31:46am

THERE’S NO NEED TO FEAR!

PROPHETESS KAT KERR IS HERE!

Kat Kerr, the self-proclaimed Christian “Prophetess” who thinks Heaven is home to cows driving tractors and a city made entirely out of Jell-O, also has a habit of commanding hurricanes to do her bidding and then taking credit if they aren’t as destructive as predicted.

So naturally she’s doing it now in anticipation of Hurricane Dorian.

“We’re taking authority over the weather. Which we all know Jesus can do. Therefore we’ll be just like him. Jesus told us, ‘I give you power over all the powers of the enemy.’
“And in case you’re wondering why we even have violent types of weather? Satan! He has the ability to jump into these storms or earthquakes because we don’t take our true power over him. But that’s changing!

“Dorian, that was just a tropical storm has now increased to a hurricane, but that means nothing to me because I have authority over it. I will not tolerate it!

“I command the hosts of heaven to go in there, right now, and pull down all of Satan’s power which is using this storm, Dorian, to bring destruction!”

Who the CENSORED is STUPID enough to tithe to this Pulpit Pimp?

friendlyatheist.patheos.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:34:04am

re: #483 Joe Bacon 🌹

THERE’S NO NEED TO FEAR!

PROPHETESS KAT KERR IS HERE!

Kat Kerr, the self-proclaimed Christian “Prophetess” who thinks Heaven is home to cows driving tractors and a city made entirely out of Jell-O, also has a habit of commanding hurricanes to do her bidding and then taking credit if they aren’t as destructive as predicted.

So naturally she’s doing it now in anticipation of Hurricane Dorian.

“We’re taking authority over the weather. Which we all know Jesus can do. Therefore we’ll be just like him. Jesus told us, ‘I give you power over all the powers of the enemy.’
“And in case you’re wondering why we even have violent types of weather? Satan! He has the ability to jump into these storms or earthquakes because we don’t take our true power over him. But that’s changing!

“Dorian, that was just a tropical storm has now increased to a hurricane, but that means nothing to me because I have authority over it. I will not tolerate it!

“I command the hosts of heaven to go in there, right now, and pull down all of Satan’s power which is using this storm, Dorian, to bring destruction!”

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friendlyatheist.patheos.com

she looks kinda like Orly Taitz

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:35:12am
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:38:55am

re: #485 Belafon

Hmm. There is also the choice of getting out of town which is something I would do.

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stpaulbear  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:40:41am

I found out yesterday that a good friend of mine (an ex-‘boyfriend’) passed away unexpectedly on Thursday night. I was close to him, but i was never close to his friends because it was such a tight group before I came in that I was never quite accepted, and I haven’t seen any of them for quite a while. I found out about the death from a friend in California who worked with the ex-boyfriend, but I haven’t heard anything from any of the local friends. I’m not sure what to do because I’m not sure I’m welcome in that group now. I contacted one of his friends but I haven’t heard back yet. Feeling like crap about it today. I was thinking about driving past his house to see what happening but also thinking that that could be a really awful move.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:40:43am

re: #486 PhillyPretzel

Hmm. There is also the choice of getting out of town which is something I would do.

Not everyone can. No place to go, no place they can afford to go.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:42:51am

re: #488 Belafon

True. In some cases one has to stay where they are.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:42:55am

re: #337 sagehen

Is it a popular or unpopular opinion to say I think hairless vaginas are GROSS? Grown women trying to make their bits look childish is just… gross.

(also, hot wax is bad enough on my lower legs. No way in hell am I allowing it near my most sensitive spots.)

I am a male, but I’d like to chime in here.

First, I want to point out there can sometimes be underlying reasons a woman may opt to have a hairless vulva.

I have a friend with albinism (she’s given me permission to share this) and of course most people with that condition have white hair on their head and most other places on their bodies.

Obviously, red easily stains white so unless she wants to deal with an annoying issue on a monthly basis, her best solution is to stay hairless.

Personally, I am okay with a well trimmed vulva or even landing strip style but I am not a huge fan of hairless. I’ve always been under the impression that most women who opt for that primarily do so because their sexual partners prefer it that way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:44:38am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:44:57am

re: #488 Belafon

Not everyone can. No place to go, no place they can afford to go.

Bingo. This was the cause of the majority of deaths during Katrina.

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mmmirele  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:49:16am

re: #466 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The do love them some patriarchy. And yes, they will openly tell you that the vote should be limited to landholding male heads of family.

Keep an eye on the men who call themselves “complementarians”. This is just patriarchy dressed up in fancy clothes. It’s still the same thing, as they insist that the Bible guides them. You know, the same Bible that was written by men steeped in the idea that women are property. As I told one Southern Baptist preacher this morning:

(Tim Fall isn’t the preacher, he’s a judge. He was replying to Dwight McKissic, who is a black SBC preacher. I just tagged along for the ride and yes, I was very deliberate in choosing this language, because I wanted McKissic to understand that the Bible sees women as property.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:49:39am

good fucking grief

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:53:09am

re: #494 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

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So she called him and apologized, and he forgave her…but he won’t let her keep her job because “she shouldn’t have said what she said.” That doesn’t sound like forgiveness, Donny.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:54:11am

re: #444 MsJ

I got a really good deal on a reconditioned Surface on eBay. Factory reconditioned at a fraction of the cost. I paid like $300 for a good model.

I never got a bad device from eBay.

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mmmirele  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:57:52am

Christian privilege reaches a new low.

BARTOW COUNTY, Ga. - A prayer vigil was held Wednesday night for a woman who says she’s been asked to stop praying at work.

Nearly 100 people showed up to support “Ms. Barbara,” who has been praying for customers for years at an Ingles store in Cartersville, where she works as a cashier.

“We’re here to support Ms. Barbara. Even though she does not want the publicity, the woman needs to be recognized,” supporter Kurt Viert told Channel 2’s Justin Wilfon.

wsbtv.com

She was hired to cashier, not to pray with customers. And apparently non-customers were coming to her and getting prayed for as well. There’s a time to do that sort of thing, and it’s not while you’re on the clock. “Ms. Barbara” is one reason why supermarkets are putting in those self checkouts and not keeping enough human cashiers around. She’s not doing her profession—cashiering, not praying—any damn good. Oh, and we all know what would happen if she wasn’t of the dominant religion and offered to pray for people. She would have been turfed long before now.

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:01:40am

re: #497 mmmirele

Ms. Barbara declined to comment, but her supporters said management asked her to stop praying this week after a customer complained, claiming the prayers were leading to a long line.

“She’s very discreet. She doesn’t take a long time,” Rogers said.

Management apparently late to realize their employee was delaying and annoying their customers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:03:21am

re: #497 mmmirele

BARTOW COUNTY, Ga. - A prayer vigil was held Wednesday night for a woman who says she’s been asked to stop praying at work.

again an intentionally simplistic and sensationalist headline.

it is not the matter that she is praying, it is that she is failing to do the task she is hired for and the prayer is interfering in that. would be the same if she were reading tarot cards or divining bird entrails

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:04:40am

Question for Trump
Why am I looking at a far higher resolution pic from Irans all boom no zoom rocket than the hurricane actually threatening Americans?

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mmmirele  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:07:53am

The Boston Straight Pride parade is trying to start. Gregg Housh, who I know from the good old days of Scientology picketing, is there live.

Gregg says Vermin Supreme is also there, not protesting, but more like mocking them. ETA: He’s wearing a crown, not his boot.

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bratwurst  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:09:05am

This is…um…not really a big surprise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:09:59am

re: #502 bratwurst

‘Straight Pride’ organisers revealed to have links to far-right and white nationalist groups

Surprising would be that they have links to girlfriends…

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:12:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:14:48am

re: #504 goddamnedfrank

It is extremely normal for the President to be publicly threatening White House employees with unenforceable NDAs that the WH Council only made them sign because it was easier than getting the President to understand the fucking law

You just summed up the reason why competent people do not stay long in this administration

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:16:29am

re: #505 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You just summed up the reason why competent people do not stay long in this administration

So far, the general theme of all the “competent people” leaving is that they found themselves contradicting Hair Furor one too many times for his liking.

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:17:47am

re: #501 mmmirele

These must be the big strong guys who keep crying in front of Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:18:29am

re: #506 Targetpractice

So far, the general theme of all the “competent people” leaving is that they found themselves contradicting Hair Furor one too many times for his liking.

Because they had a choice between following reality or following their boss’ orders

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:19:08am

re: #507 jaunte

These must be the big strong guys who keep crying in front of Trump.

Trump gets off on humiliating people to the point that they break down and cry in front of him. That’s what he lives for.

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:19:37am

re: #508 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because they had a choice between following reality or following their boss’ orders

As we’re seeing with Bolton, even the incompetent people don’t last long if Donny thinks they’re making him look bad. Pretty much everybody he’s fired has been because they were telling the press one thing while he was being told something totally different.

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Citizen K  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:23:59am

re: #275 Citizen K

In light of this entire snit, I predict that the New York Times will publicly announce that they’re renewing Bret Stephen’s contract for another 5 years…

I said this last night half-jokingly.

This is exactly why it was only half-joking:

They literally take this as engagement and proof of their brilliance in ‘challenging readers’. All the while wailing and howling to be forgiven whenever conservatives beat on them.

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makeitstop  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:31:37am

Hey, y’all! We’re home again, after an 18 hour trip home.

What idiocy did I miss while flying over the ocean and then collapsing into an exhausted heap on my bed?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:33:49am

I definitely don’t hate Biden but so far he is running a shit campaign

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KGxvi  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:36:01am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:36:12am

re: #513 goddamnedfrank

I definitely don’t hate Biden but so far he is running a shit campaign

He is also at the bottom of my list of preferred Democratic candidates.

But still on the list

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:36:19am

A great PBS re-run. Julia Child and Jacques Pepin cooking together.
whyy.org

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:39:03am

re: #513 goddamnedfrank

I definitely don’t hate Biden but so far he is running a shit campaign

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Biden is this year’s Ed Muskie…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:39:28am

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KGxvi  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:39:49am

re: #513 goddamnedfrank

I definitely don’t hate Biden but so far he is running a shit campaign

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It’s like a candidate who comes off as and old out of touch white dude is being run for old out of touch white dudes by old out of touch white dudes. Bit of free advice for those old out of touch white dudes… if you become a meme, don’t lean into it if you want to be taken seriously, we’re mostly making fun of you (or people “like” you) with those memes.

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KGxvi  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:41:23am

re: #518 Joe Bacon 🌹

We all keep joking about it, but if Dorian hits Mar a Lago, I fully expect inside dealing/preferential treatment by Trump - like “oh, this chair was knocked over, that’s three grand… spilled water bottle? that’s water damage, better be safe and just say $20k”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:46:20am

re: #520 KGxvi

We all keep joking about it, but if Dorian hits Mar a Lago, I fully expect inside dealing/preferential treatment by Trump - like “oh, this chair was knocked over, that’s three grand… spilled water bottle? that’s water damage, better be safe and just say $20k”

This is EXACTLY what would happen. He’d take FEMA for every fucking penny and then some.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:47:51am

Apparently there’s a massive protest aimed at Buckingham Palace going on right now.

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retired cynic  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:48:58am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:49:12am

re: #519 KGxvi

It’s like a candidate who comes off as and old out of touch white dude is being run for old out of touch white dudes by old out of touch white dudes. Bit of free advice for those old out of touch white dudes… if you become a meme, don’t lean into it if you want to be taken seriously, we’re mostly making fun of you (or people “like” you) with those memes.

Old White Dude suggests Young Dudes go to the wallets, go to the doorbells, go to the polls, then we’ll talk.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:51:14am

re: #522 Barefoot Grin

Apparently there’s a massive protest aimed at Buckingham Palace going on right now.

But I thought the Queen was relatively powerless in this whole kerfuffle?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:51:29am

re: #483 Joe Bacon 🌹

If I was less ethical, damn, I could make a fortune hustling the rubes. The country’s chock full of ‘em, it seems!

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:53:02am
In looking across the six polls, some clear patterns emerge (as does the Monmouth poll’s outlier status). Biden is strongest among older, African-American, and moderate/conservative Democratic primary voters. Sanders is strongest among younger voters, while Warren is strongest among the most liberal voters and those with a college degree. That’s not a new discovery, of course. What was striking, however, is how consistent these coalitions were among all the different polls — regardless of what the head-to-head poll numbers showed (well, except for Monmouth).

What also stuck out to me was the size of the lead candidates held in certain demographic groups. For example, while Sanders does best among younger voters, he doesn’t rack up the large margins with these voters that Biden does among older voters. Scroll along the age breakouts in the chart and you see Biden with double-digit leads among voters over 45-years-old. Meanwhile, Sanders’ lead among 18-34-year-olds is in the single digits. In the Quinnipiac poll, for example, Sanders takes 31 percent to Warren’s 25 percent, and Biden pulls up with just 10 percent. But, among those over the age of 65, Biden has an almost 30 point lead over his closest competitor (Warren), while Sanders sits at just 4 percent.

Why does Biden’s solid lead with older voters matter? Because older voters (those over the age of 45), make up 60 percent of the overall Democratic electorate. And, it’s not just nationally. Older voters made up anywhere from 59 to 65 percent of the electorate in the first four voting states — Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina. Furthermore, Brownstein found, that “[s]ome private analysis conducted for Democrats eyeing 2020 has found the potential electorate tilting even more heavily toward older voters.” In other words, the fact that Biden has — so far — consolidated older voters, while younger voters are divided between Warren and Sanders — gives Biden a big electoral advantage.

As we’ve been writing about for months (seems like years), Democratic primary voters are more interested in electability than we’ve seen in recent memory. The CNN poll found that 54 percent of Democrats preferred a candidate who had a strong chance to beat Trump, compared to 39 percent who preferred a nominee who shares their positions of major issues.

cookpolitical.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:53:39am

re: #522 Barefoot Grin

Apparently there’s a massive protest aimed at Buckingham Palace going on right now.

The British are out in the streets while Americans sit on their ass and are too busy watching Jesus TV.

UK Guardian has live coverage of the British protests.

theguardian.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:56:32am

re: #526 Dr Lizardo

If I was less ethical, damn, I could make a fortune hustling the rubes. The country’s chock full of ‘em, it seems!

If you want a path to living high off the hog, get into the Jesus racket! All you got to do is get a mail order degree, start preaching, file those IRS Religious Exemption forms, fleece the flock and live that tax-exempt Pulpit Pimping Lifestyle!

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KGxvi  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:58:43am

re: #527 Belafon

That only holds true if the campaigns aren’t trying to grow the electorate. Which, really, seems to be Biden’s weakness (as it were). He doesn’t really have constituencies that would strengthen his numbers if the electorate was expanded. Warren definitely has room for growth (Sanders, I still believe, has a fairly hard ceiling around 20%).

It’s the AOC factor. If the electorate in her district was static, she’d never have come close to winning the primary. But she and her campaign were smart enough to change the electorate. Obama did the same thing in Iowa in 2008 - it’s why so few saw his win coming - he changed the electorate and it didn’t match the models.

The question is whether any Democratic candidate is thinking that way this time around.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:00:32am

re: #528 Joe Bacon 🌹

WaPo has it too.
washingtonpost.com

532
Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:00:37am

re: #527 Belafon

It’s all in your last paragraph. On Primary Day I will vote for the person judged most likely to crush Trumpism. That might not be the president I would prefer.

533
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:01:38am

re: #532 Decatur Deb

It’s all in your last paragraph. On Primary Day I will vote for the person judged most likely to crush Trumpism. That might not be the president I would prefer.

But it will be massively better than what we’ve got.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:03:28am

re: #533 Eclectic Cyborg

But it will be massively better than what we’ve got.

The Dems are a choice between chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry. Trump is cyanide.

535
Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:04:22am

To me, the big issue with the “electability” argument was that, depending upon which polls you chose to put faith in back in ‘16, Bernie had the “better” chance of winning against Trump than Hillary did.

536
Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:04:43am

re: #532 Decatur Deb

It’s all in your last paragraph. On Primary Day I will vote for the person judged most likely to crush Trumpism. That might not be the president I would prefer.

It isn’t enough to beat Trump.

We have to get the Senate, too which is why I’m sending what I can to help Doug Jones hold on in Alabama.

537
Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:05:20am

re: #528 Joe Bacon 🌹

The British are out in the streets while Americans sit on their ass and are too busy watching Jesus TV.

UK Guardian has live coverage of the British protests.

theguardian.com

We have had protests here, since Trump was inaugurated. OTOH, the British seemed to mostly have waited until it was too late. Unless the people stage a revolution, protests won’t slow down Boris. He wins even if his party loses an actual election afterwards.

538
A Cranky One  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:07:02am

re: #534 Decatur Deb

The Dems are a choice between chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry. Trump is cyanide.

Eddie Izzard “Cake or Death” Sketch From Dress to Kill

539
Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:07:54am

re: #536 Joe Bacon 🌹

It isn’t enough to beat Trump.

We have to get the Senate, too which is why I’m sending what I can to help Doug Jones hold on in Alabama.

Is that an argument for or against a Warren or Sanders or Harris? There’s no real answer to this. Any candidate will be a socialist, and Jones may have to take stances that make large numbers of Democrats angry. We just have to tell people that he will be the conservative part of the country we will have to negotiate with, and we would rather it be someone willing to negotiate in good faith.

540
Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:07:55am

Personally, what I expect if Biden continues to hold this lead through to next year and wins the nomination, the press are going to go after him the same as they did with Hillary when she was seen as “inevitable.” Anybody looking at polls now and saying “Get behind Biden because he has the best chance of winning!” is setting themselves up for a very rough 2020.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:08:31am

re: #536 Joe Bacon 🌹

It isn’t enough to beat Trump.

We have to get the Senate, too which is why I’m sending what I can to help Doug Jones hold on in Alabama.

I’m on Jones’ volunteer list, but unless Roy Moore is the GOP candidate, you should look all around for the best senate campaign to donate. Saying that makes me sick.

542
KGxvi  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:09:44am

re: #535 Targetpractice

To me, the big issue with the “electability” argument was that, depending upon which polls you chose to put faith in back in ‘16, Bernie had the “better” chance of winning against Trump than Hillary did.

Electability is a bullshit argument. Trump wasn’t electable, yet here we fucking are. In a traditional election (meaning no major third party/independent nominee/candidate), the Republican and Democratic nominees are by, definition, electable. They will each get at least 40% of the vote, even in blow outs. More likely they’ll get at least 45% of the vote.

And let’s be honest, you have to actively fuck up to get less than 45%.

543
William Lewis  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:11:09am

re: #532 Decatur Deb

It’s all in your last paragraph. On Primary Day I will vote for the person judged most likely to crush Trumpism. That might not be the president I would prefer.

Except that if we get someone living in a fantasy world where “moderate” republicans still exist to be worked with, he’ll accomplish nothing and in 2 years we’ll lose the house and senate and in 4 years lose the constitution. I’ll vote for him if he’s nominated but it will be done with no hope for the future and an eye on getting my son asylum in Canada.

544
sagehen  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:11:47am

re: #534 Decatur Deb

The Dems are a choice between chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry. Trump is cyanide.

BUT I WANTED RASPBERRY CARAMEL!! I might not vote at all unless somebody offers me raspberry caramel. Or maybe I’ll just go ahead and vote raspberry caramel as a write-in.

WHY ARE ALL THE OPTIONS SO UNINSPIRING? They haven’t earned my vote!?!!eleventy!!

545
retired cynic  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:15:59am

re: #544 sagehen

Yep. “Why can’t I just vote on Facebook?”

546
Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:16:23am

African Americans decided the candidate in 2008, but Iowa told them they could back Obama. They are backing Biden, but a good showing by one of the others could cause him to lose that support.

547
Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:16:42am

re: #542 KGxvi

Electability is a bullshit argument. Trump wasn’t electable, yet here we fucking are. In a traditional election (meaning no major third party/independent nominee/candidate), the Republican and Democratic nominees are by, definition, electable. They will each get at least 40% of the vote, even in blow outs. More likely they’ll get at least 45% of the vote.

And let’s be honest, you have to actively fuck up to get less than 45%.

The big issue with the “electability” argument is that you’re seen as “electable”…until you’re not. There are plenty of examples strewn throughout the ages of politics of candidates who were seen as “unbeatable” or “serious” until one moment that totally crushed their candidacies. Whether it was the Dukakis tank ride or the Dean “I Have A Scream” speech, it just takes one fuck-up to kill your candidacy.

548
Barefoot Grin  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:19:10am

re: #525 Eclectic Cyborg

But I thought the Queen was relatively powerless in this whole kerfuffle?

And she’s at BAlmoral, supposedly. I think it’s largely symbolic—let her know that there’s popular anger.

549
Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:19:48am

re: #547 Targetpractice

All that goes into a personal judgement of electability. If the frontrunner seems somewhat more likely to crater, that’s part of the voters’ guess.

550
Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:21:35am

re: #539 Belafon

Is that an argument for or against a Warren or Sanders or Harris? There’s no real answer to this. Any candidate will be a socialist, and Jones may have to take stances that make large numbers of Democrats angry. We just have to tell people that he will be the conservative part of the country we will have to negotiate with, and we would rather it be someone willing to negotiate in good faith.

No. Even if the Democrats would nominate Pee Wee Herman he gets my vote.

What I wanted to point out is just winning the Presidency isn’t enough if the Republicans hold on to the Senate. We have to fight for every office at every level. We have to hold every Democratic Senate seat and flip all of those that turned to the GOP in 2014.

551
KGxvi  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:21:44am

re: #525 Eclectic Cyborg

But I thought the Queen was relatively powerless in this whole kerfuffle?

The UK doesn’t have a written constitution. They run mostly off of tradition. But I think, technically, Liz still has power, it’s just been delegated or has entropied due to lack of use.

552
KGxvi  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:23:16am

re: #550 Joe Bacon 🌹

No. Even if the Democrats would nominate Pee Wee Herman he gets my vote.

What I wanted to point out is just winning the Presidency isn’t enough if the Republicans hold on to the Senate. We have to fight for every office at every level. We have to hold every Democratic Senate seat and flip all of those that turned to the GOP in 2014.

In that case, Warren and Sanders should be further down the preferred list because both represent states with Republican governors.

553
Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:24:01am

Cheryl Rofer at Balloon Juice makes a great point: When you hear Trump and his supporters talking about how he has the right to release information, ask them if he’s following what he promised to do: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

554
Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:24:12am

re: #551 KGxvi

The UK doesn’t have a written constitution. They run mostly off of tradition. But I think, technically, Liz still has power, it’s just been delegated or has entropied due to lack of use.

quora.com

The last time a monarch of England used the royal veto was William III on 10 April 1696. There was one more use of a royal veto after that, on 11 March 1707/08* by Queen Anne; but by that time she was Queen of Great Britain, not Queen of England.

555
Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:25:34am

re: #551 KGxvi

The UK doesn’t have a written constitution. They run mostly off of tradition. But I think, technically, Liz still has power, it’s just been delegated or has entropied due to lack of use.

Long and short of it is that Liz could have refused Boris’ request, but it would have meant going against centuries of precedent and getting the Crown involved in a very messy situation. Even if he outright lied in his motivations for making the request, that’s not really for her to judge as he is still the leader of the popularly-elected gov’t until such time as elections are conducted.

556
mmmirele  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:26:35am

re: #522 Barefoot Grin

Apparently there’s a massive protest aimed at Buckingham Palace going on right now.

Nice article and video at the Guardian.

theguardian.com

557
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:31:16am

re: #551 KGxvi

The UK doesn’t have a written constitution. They run mostly off of tradition. But I think, technically, Liz still has power, it’s just been delegated or has entropied due to lack of use.

She also does not want to create any precedents for Charles…

558
goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:32:31am

re: #555 Targetpractice

Long and short of it is that Liz could have refused Boris’ request, but it would have meant going against centuries of precedent and getting the Crown involved in a very messy situation. Even if he outright lied in his motivations for making the request, that’s not really for her to judge as he is still the leader of the popularly-elected gov’t until such time as elections are conducted.

Counterpoint: She’s acting like she’s an automaton lacking any free will or ability to see the obvious goddamned truth in front of her, like she’s just a soulless fucking rubber stamp. The obvious question is why require her involvement at all if she’s not supposed to exercise even a modicum of discernment and discretion? There’s no honor in this shit at all.

559
A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:38:25am

re: #530 KGxvi

That only holds true if the campaigns aren’t trying to grow the electorate. Which, really, seems to be Biden’s weakness (as it were). He doesn’t really have constituencies that would strengthen his numbers if the electorate was expanded. Warren definitely has room for growth (Sanders, I still believe, has a fairly hard ceiling around 20%).

It’s the AOC factor. If the electorate in her district was static, she’d never have come close to winning the primary. But she and her campaign were smart enough to change the electorate. Obama did the same thing in Iowa in 2008 - it’s why so few saw his win coming - he changed the electorate and it didn’t match the models.

The question is whether any Democratic candidate is thinking that way this time around.

Can’t speak for the candidates, but it’s what “my” groups have been working on since 11/9/16. Locally and in other states. Through voter registration drives, phone banking, postcards, tabling at local events, and more. That’s how we produced the blue wave in 2018. Join us.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:41:07am

re: #544 sagehen

BUT I WANTED RASPBERRY CARAMEL!! I might not vote at all unless somebody offers me raspberry caramel. Or maybe I’ll just go ahead and vote raspberry caramel as a write-in.

WHY ARE ALL THE OPTIONS SO UNINSPIRING? They haven’t earned my vote!?!!eleventy!!

re: #545 retired cynic

Yep. “Why can’t I just vote on Facebook?”

That opinion is held by six people on twitter, definitely not the people I work with, nor the people I contact in my political work. I wish you’d stop pushing it.

561
Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:42:11am

re: #558 goddamnedfrank

Counterpoint: She’s acting like she’s an automaton lacking any free will or ability to see the obvious goddamned truth in front of her, like she’s just a soulless fucking rubber stamp. The obvious question is why require her involvement at all if she’s not supposed to exercise even a modicum of discernment and discretion? There’s no honor in this shit at all.

I’ll certainly agree there’s no honor in getting Liz involved in what is effectively an argument between the PM and Parliament. And really, that’s what this is, an argument between a PM who was appointed to the post that his own party holds by a single seat, and a Parliament that has dithered and made excuses for years about how to handle Brexit. Even now, they’re not talking about avoiding it, but just seeking another extension in order to hold an election.

562
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:45:18am

re: #495 Targetpractice

So she called him and apologized, and he forgave her…but he won’t let her keep her job because “she shouldn’t have said what she said.” That doesn’t sound like forgiveness, Donny.

Wouldn’t forgiveness in the tr*mp world be ‘not siccing the lawyers on her?

563
goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:48:38am

re: #561 Targetpractice

I’ll certainly agree there’s no honor in getting Liz involved in what is effectively an argument between the PM and Parliament. And really, that’s what this is, an argument between a PM who was appointed to the post that his own party holds by a single seat, and a Parliament that has dithered and made excuses for years about how to handle Brexit. Even now, they’re not talking about avoiding it, but just seeking another extension in order to hold an election.

There absolutely is honor in her telling her subjects that she can tell when she’s being flagrantly lied to and disrespected by a fucking buffoon so that he can lead them all over a goddamned cliff.

564
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:48:51am

re: #499 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

would be the same if she were reading tarot cards or divining bird entrails

That sounds a lot more interesting.

565
Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:49:07am

re: #562 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Wouldn’t forgiveness in the tr*mp world be ‘not siccing the lawyers on her?

I’m personally of the opinion that she did call him, but it was more to beg to keep her job by offering an apology. And his “forgiveness” was telling her that she should consider herself fortunate that he wasn’t going to enforce the NDA.

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sagehen  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:49:43am

re: #551 KGxvi

The UK doesn’t have a written constitution. They run mostly off of tradition. But I think, technically, Liz still has power, it’s just been delegated or has entropied due to lack of use.

She doesn’t have official, legal authority.

She does have a massive bully pulpit, if she were to want to use it. Her political views have always been “decline to say”, but if she were to break precedent and express a preference, 70% of the country would side with whatever side she spoke for.

567
Florida Panhandler  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:56:24am

re: #258 Barefoot Grin

This is pretty much the John Bolton who was despised by his staff at the United Nations:

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You have to think Bolton is disheartened to find out in reality Trump is fine with talking tough from a distance or to the powerless but backs down like a bitch to actual confrontations with relevant peers. He must have thought he finally had the political means to execute his constant desire for war as a first resort.

Trump’s military brass probably has informed him over and over that no, Iran will not be defeated in 48 hours and that we can expect casualties- not only upon US vessels hit or possibly sunk, but also retaliatory measures taken against stationed US troops across the Middle East and to an extent around the world.


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