The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, is doing his best to avoid having to admit that President Trump is in serious trouble. #Monologue #Impeachment #Colbert
These fucking people are bonkers pic.twitter.com/8NwYmFc9xM
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) November 7, 2019
Do you know that Trump can eat more hotdogs than anybody? He ate a million hotdogs in twelve minutes and made Joey Chestnut cry. Top of the game in the World! It drives the liberals crazy how many hotdogs Trump can eat. It’s hilarious. Just so you know, full he is not.
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) November 7, 2019
Repubs: “RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS! WE HAVE A RIGHT TO SEE THE TRANSCRIPTS!!!”
Schiff: “Here ya go.”
Repubs: “WE REFUSE TO LOOK AT THESE TRANSCRIPTS!”
SNOW DAY: This scottie experiencing his first snowfall can’t control his excitement as he darts and frolics through the freshly covered lawn. https://t.co/ETjwr51Qsg pic.twitter.com/hsIu6kcUPE
— ABC News (@ABC) November 7, 2019
Did you know that James Brown begged Trump to teach him how to dance at Studio 54?
….. never mind …. I was looking at the wrong account…
Two things I saw on the news at the gym:
From CNN, standings in Iowa:
Warren: 20%
Buttigeig: 19%
Sanders: 17%
Biden: 15%
From FOX: Are Democrats incorrectly interpreting the results in Kentucky? (Paraphrase, that was an hour ago.)
By the way, anybody remember the first hours after Volker’s texts became public, the GOP tried to float the BS excuse that they were “out of context.”
Anybody notice a single Republican trying to put them “in context”?
re: #4 stpaulbear
James Brown was so grateful that he cried and said “Sir, how can I ever thank you enough for saving me from a life of misery and pain.”
Trump’s farts are so powerful and energy-rich that he has them piped straight to the engines on Air Force One, saving taxpayers millions in fuel.
I love that Trump forces this pathetic kiss-ass to get on his knees and tweet this shit every single time footage comes out of their empty klan therapy sessions like tonight. https://t.co/hCWgJ9zR3o
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) November 7, 2019
trump style thinly disguised racism
Laura Ingraham blames the GOP losing Virginia on “demographic changes”, “foreign-born population”, and an altered “demographic makeup”
re: #13 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
trump style thinly disguised racism
Laura Ingraham blames the GOP losing Virginia on “demographic changes”, “foreign-born population”, and an altered “demographic makeup”
That’s not all that thinly disguised. I expect Laura and her ilk will just come out and straight-up say, “America was founded as a white country and we need to keep it that way and if Trump loses next year, then white America is finished”.
That’s the GOP’s unspoken argument. And I reckon that unspoken argument will become a spoken argument before next November.
re: #6 Belafon
it’s entirely possible that just because Brashear got more votes, you shouldn’t assume that he wins; now the decision will have to go to the State of Kentucky Electoral College where each county has one vote and they’re sure to place Bevin back in charge because of that…. ///////
see how easy that is?
From a couple of threads ago. Thank you for posting this. I had not heard about the Playhouse being torn down. Nor was aware that it had been the site of the Tree of Life a century ago.
re: #394 Joe Bacon 🌹
Amazing pictures of excavation of a former location of Pittsburgh’s Tree Of Life Synagogue!
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OK, so went ahead and ordered myself a new keyboard for my PC - the machine I bought last week came with a Polish keyboard (!) and I set up Win10 for English as the default OS language with US QWERTY and CZ QWERTY as keyboard options.
I decided to go with a Microsoft wireless Comfort keyboard and the other wireless keyboard I picked up last week, which isn’t all that good, I’ll exchange tomorrow for a vertical mouse (same price at the shop, so just a straight swap).
The MS keyboard I ordered should arrive by tomorrow afternoon/evening.
re: #13 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
trump style thinly disguised racism
Laura Ingraham blames the GOP losing Virginia on “demographic changes”, “foreign-born population”, and an altered “demographic makeup”
Actually, she’s probably right. A majority of White voters still tend to support Republicans although I haven’t seen a breakdown for Virginia. What Ingraham needs to get through her head is that foreign-born immigrants have a right to vote and we do. And many of us vote Democratic. That’s a problem for Republicans in diverse states like Virginia with their xenophobia and racism.
It’s true, Virginia has seen an influx of Latino and Asian immigrants. Maybe if Republicans didn’t talk about them as existential threats to America simply by virtue of not being white they could win more of their votes. https://t.co/MmFR1fMGn8
— *Palpatine voice* UNLIMITED DADPUNS🍝 (@AdamSerwer) November 7, 2019
In entertainment news, I’m seeing that Terminator: Dark Fate is something of a box-office bomb, despite mixed to positive reviews. Personally, I think the whole Terminator franchise has run its course, and did so long ago.
I’ll take it a step further and argue the original 1984 The Terminator never should have had a sequel (not saying that T2 was a bad film…in fact, it was an excellent film) but that the original should’ve been a stand-alone film, with its ambiguous ending portending an apocalypse.
It was an almost perfect example of a predestination paradox: Had John Connor not sent Kyle Reese back in time, he would’ve never existed - and likewise, had Skynet not sent back a T800 to kill Sarah Connor, it too would never have come into being.
re: #23 Patricia Kayden
Actually, she’s probably right. A majority of White voters still tend to support Republicans although I haven’t seen a breakdown for Virginia. What Ingraham needs to get through her head is that foreign-born immigrants have a right to vote and we do. And many of us vote Democratic. That’s a problem for Republicans in diverse states like Virginia with their xenophobia and racism.
They really resent transplants too and NoVa. The fact is the state has prospered as it has gotten more diverse. Laura’s upset not only politically but economically.
re: #24 Patricia Kayden
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You mean treat them like people? Nah. Can’t have that. Gotta pander to the resentments of those down state who don’t like immigrants or their other hated- the transplant.
re: #4 stpaulbear
Did you know that James Brown begged Trump to teach him how to dance at Studio 54?
Did you know that check to Stormy Daniels was simply change? She offered him $825,000 to have sex with her and paid for it with a million-dollar bill!!!
re: #24 Patricia Kayden
It’s true, Virginia has seen an influx of Latino and Asian immigrants. Maybe if Republicans didn’t talk about them as existential threats to America simply by virtue of not being white they could win more of their votes.
Keep in mind that a lot of Latinos are religious and family-oriented, and those are all ostensibly Conservative values that the GOP should be able to appeal to.
But Latinos also believe in strong communities and public organizations, especially schools.
GOP wants to privatize all that.
And their concept of “family values” really means stressing the value of families, not just banning abortion and discriminating against LGBTs.
I know I posted about this yesterday, but much of the MSM miss this point—Joe did this morning. “Why are they doing this? The WB is irrelevant at this stage!”
This is all true but it’s also about sending a message to other whistleblowers: no snitching. https://t.co/F9yckbRAnx
— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) November 7, 2019
re: #33 Barefoot Grin
This is all true but it’s also about sending a message to other whistleblowers: no snitching.
It is also consistent with their narrative that this is a partisan witch hunt and the whilstleblower is nothing but a spy and a traitor who deserves to be doxxed
re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It is also consistent with their narrative that this is a partisan witch hunt and the whilstleblower is nothing but a spy and a traitor who deserves to be doxxed
Yes, that’s definitely an important part—make every single opposition to Trump part of the partisan “witch hunt.”
re: #35 Barefoot Grin
Yes, that’s definitely an important part—make every single opposition to Trump part of the partisan “witch hunt.”
and the Soros-funded, Obama-led Deep State
re: #1 goddamnedfrank
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I mean, if any of that was remotely true, Trump would be selling t-shirts of the test results on his website.
re: #24 Patricia Kayden
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Interesting take on this “problem” from Laura. I wonder what her final solution* for this “demographic” issue is?
When given the choice between complying with the law or breaking the law, Trump breaks the law every time, even when complying just means spending a few minutes eating with one of his supporters. He’s a criminal down to the bone.
UPDATE: A heavily-promoted contest to win breakfast with President Trump in New York City on September 26 was a fraud.
The “winner” of the contest did not have breakfast in Trump.
Instead, she was invited to a breakfast that Trump did not attendhttps://t.co/2de4xHOcCH— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) November 7, 2019
re: #39 Florida Panhandler
Interesting take on this “problem” from Laura. I wonder what her final solution* for this “demographic” issue is?
We’ll probably get to find out if Trump wins another term in office.
re: #40 NO SMOCKING GUN!
When given the choice between complying with the law or breaking the law, Trump breaks the law every time, even when complying just means spending a few minutes eating with one of his supporters. He’s a criminal down to the bone.
I’ve read about this and other cases like this. I wonder if any of them are now ex Trump fans after seeing how he is a liar impacting them directly.
This is interesting:
(The Hill) President Trump wanted his attorney general, William Barr, to state publicly that he had broken no laws with his July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
The Washington Post reported Wednesday that Trump requested Barr make the announcement at a formal press conference.
Barr declined, though the Department of Justice (DOJ) did eventually release a statement claiming that a readout of the president’s call — during which Trump pushed Zelensky to launch an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden — had been evaluated to not contain any campaign finance violations.
Democrats have argued that Trump’s effort to persuade Zelensky constituted an attempt to solicit foreign assistance in a U.S. election.
Sources in the administration told the Post that the president has mentioned Barr’s refusal to host a press conference on the issue in recent weeks, but a senior administration official denied that Barr’s decision had resulted in any friction between the two men.
You know Trump is in it deep when even Bill Fucking Barr won’t go over the cliff with him.
re: #43 Eclectic Cyborg
This is interesting:
(The Hill) President Trump wanted his attorney general, William Barr, to state publicly that he had broken no laws with his July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
You know Trump is in it deep when even Bill Fucking Barr won’t go over the cliff with him.
He did his duty with his ludicrous four-page summary of the Mueller Report
re: #29 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Did you know that check to Stormy Daniels was simply change? She offered him $825,000 to have sex with her and paid for it with a million-dollar bill!!!
Did you know that Trump did not cheat on his wife, but that there’s no question at times of his life, partially driven by how passionately he felt about his country, that he worked far too hard and things happened in his life that were not appropriate?
re: #45 BlueSpotinAL
Did you know that Trump did not cheat on his wife, but that there’s no question at times of his life, partially driven by how passionately he felt about his country, that he worked far too hard and things happened in his life that were not appropriate?
The Newt Defense! Didn’t work for the Newtster, alas.
The University of Alabama has “clarified” their statement regarding fans being removed for booing Trump.
The revised statement indicates they are fine with people at the game booing Trump and there will be no consequences for those who do, they just don’t want Trump supporters getting in to fights with non Trump supporters and other shenanigans that wouldn’t be welcome at a sporting event.
re: #47 Eclectic Cyborg
The University of Alabama has “clarified” their statement regarding fans being removed for booing Trump.
The revised statement indicates they are fine with people at the game booing Trump and there will be no consequences for those who do, they just don’t want Trump supporters getting in to fights with non Trump supporters and other shenanigans that wouldn’t be welcome at a sporting event.
Was that their second or third clarification?
re: #48 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Was that their second or third clarification?
No clue. Story I read on it was posted about an hour ago.
Let’s get this trending.
Trump had a sign behind the podium in Louisiana begging the audience not to leave, and yet there are STILL plenty of empty seats plainly visible.#PleaseDontLeave https://t.co/458Qd838lj— The Ghost of Ludwig Kaas (@LudwigsGhost) November 7, 2019
re: #49 Eclectic Cyborg
No clue. Story I read on it was posted about an hour ago.
That’s the third then (assuming it’s not a report of last night). What they said above was more than what was said last night.
Keep clarifying your position, assholes.
re: #50 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
What’s next, flashing APPLAUSE signs?
re: #2 Targetpractice
Repubs: “RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS! WE HAVE A RIGHT TO SEE THE TRANSCRIPTS!!!”
Schiff: “Here ya go.”
Repubs: “WE REFUSE TO LOOK AT THESE TRANSCRIPTS!”
It’s much like WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE???????
Obama: Here ya go.
IT’S A FORGERY!!!!!11!!!1!1!1111!!!!
re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg
What’s next, flashing APPLAUSE signs?
That was my response.
And…please clap!#JebDidItFirst
— Yeah Sure WTF Ever (@YeahSureWhatev2) November 7, 2019
So, Canada has an Amber Alert system that rings into your cell phone when it is initiated. It is almost always in the middle of the night and to say the alarm is loud is an understatement. I mean we’re talking this at a zillion decibels.
Yeah, it’s freaky AF. Yeah, it’s an inconvenience. Yeah, it scares the shit out of you.
But it finds kids (as it did last night).
And when it wakes me up I look at it the phone and swear that I was woken up, then I worry about the kids and think about the parents…and I roll over and go back to sleep.
I get that it is unpleasant but to call 911 to complain? Thankfully, the #AMBERAlert trend is mostly telling people to be thankful it’s not their kids and to STFU.
You can smell the flopsweat in this Tweet
Based on the information released last night about the Fake Whistleblowers attorney, the Impeachment Hoax should be ended IMMEDIATELY! There is no case, except against the other side!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2019
Our NY vacation has come to an end. We will be back in Detroit this afternoon. (10 degrees colder!)
re: #58 The Pie Overlord!
Our NY vacation has come to an end. We will be back in Detroit this afternoon. (10 degrees colder!)
With snow on the ground. Welcome home.
re: #39 Florida Panhandler
Interesting take on this “problem” from Laura. I wonder what her final solution* for this “demographic” issue is?
Her final solution is the same as Pete Wilson’s which KILLED the California Republican Party. Thanks to Pete’s racism, The GOP registration now is in third place with California voters behind Independents.
re: #57 The Pie Overlord!
You can smell the flopsweat in this Tweet
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.@realDonaldTrump thank you so much for the specific commentary about my firm last night. I woke up to a ton of hate mail and death threats.
And I’m not even on this case.— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) November 7, 2019
Thanks to All of the Jackals who have contributed so far.. Things are looking a bit better, I’ll be getting my check this month until they decide what to do. But I’m still a bit short for now.
Someday…I have dreams that my writing and web work will fill in the gaps, especially now that I have time to do it. But until then….
This is great. Note how the use of big monitors adds to the impression of a large crowd. https://t.co/BmZPVppbHQ
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) November 7, 2019
re: #18 ckkatz
Javert: Do you have any baguettes for sale.
Baker: I do, Two for $6.01.
Javert: Where is Jean Valjean?!
re: #47 Eclectic Cyborg
The University of Alabama has “clarified” their statement regarding fans being removed for booing Trump.
The revised statement indicates they are fine with people at the game booing Trump and there will be no consequences for those who do, they just don’t want Trump supporters getting in to fights with non Trump supporters and other shenanigans that wouldn’t be welcome at a sporting event.
We call this “a Trump rally.”
DAY-UM! Simone has competition! :-)
Me When Trump’s gone. pic.twitter.com/GgsVxTNlL2
— Jesus Chrysler (@JesusChrysler15) November 7, 2019
re: #37 Mike Lamb
I mean, if any of that was remotely true, Trump would be selling t-shirts of the test results on his website.
Why would it need to be true for him to do that?
So you’re confirming it. Thanks. https://t.co/rERvSOUbAu
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) November 7, 2019
LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP! LOCK TRUMP UP!
— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) November 7, 2019
re: #69 jaunte
So you did admit to talking to Barr.
This statement doesn’t say that the conversation didn’t happen. You aren’t denying talking to Barr.
What you keep referring to as a transcript isn’t verbatim. If you read it, you’d know it says that much. It’s a readout.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 7, 2019
Trump doesn’t dispute a conversation occurred. He didn’t deny talking to Barr. He’s claiming something else.
Trump is deflecting and projecting as always.
Degenerate ? https://t.co/KQ2KAJTsxI
— Dennis Herring (@dcherring) November 7, 2019
Straight to the fascist language.
About my writing: A few links:
My Astrology Blog
My Political Blog
Restful Video
Life In Retirement and in General
Same site, always under construction of some sort. Why 4 blogs? I decided that I had too many different interests to give to one blog. Plus it seems to be fun to change focus from time to time. I also have a Hillary/Michelle site that will be going up soon.
Maybe that’s why I’m sensitive to the “cult” thing. I’ve seen too much, too close. Nobody has all of the wisdom of the world, and even if they did, people can only use what they can use anyway.
Fox News published portions of a book from a regular guest of the network alleging that the Obama admin held regular “political correctness meetings.” The author now admits he didn’t understand the initials ‘PC’ actually stood for “principals committee.”https://t.co/VdDfjocUi9
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 7, 2019
re: #75 lawhawk
The confirmation bias industry just keeps humming along.
re: #75 lawhawk
I suspect this was Doug Wead knowing his crappy book would get more attention if he went with something like this because he knows exactly how the people who watch FNC act. Meanwhile Trump actually has infuriated a lot of career IC people and he goes on FNC likening Trump to FDR and the same FNC likens those same IC people ot the same state since they say “Yeah Russia did fucking interfere.”
re: #77 HappyWarrior
Admitting that he didn’t have a clue what PC meant kind of undermines the entire premise of the book, but it was never the book that matter, it was publishing the smear about Obama.
re: #76 jaunte
The confirmation bias industry just keeps humming along.
I think Fox News conservatives are only happy if they’re outraged. It looked like they’re seriously trying to accuse the left of havng a war on Thanksgiving now. I swear they’re not going to be happy until they ruin every fucking holiday with their nonsense about how there’s a “war” on it. I love Christmas. It and the new year are the only thing I really enjoy about winter(I don’t like cold weather and snow is more meh when you’re an adult) but Fox has to make every holiday season about how saying Merry Christmas is the worst thing ever. It’s fucking business and oh yeah there are other holidays that people in this country celebrate other than Christmas in that time of year.
re: #78 lawhawk
Admitting that he didn’t have a clue what PC meant kind of undermines the entire premise of the book, but it was never the book that matter, it was publishing the smear about Obama.
GMTA.
re: #78 lawhawk
And at this point, it’s like digging in the bottom of the sale barrel. America has moved on, what Obama will write/do will overshadow that, and Trump’s crazy makes anything Barack does look extremely tame. He’s going to go straight to the remainder bin with this one-not even the RNC is going to buy copies.
re: #75 lawhawk
Fox morons discussing trump morons.
Fox is moron central (and nothing but a republican propaganda outlet).— Yeah Sure WTF Ever (@YeahSureWhatev2) November 7, 2019
The Chewbacca defense.
Because there’s no actual defense other than trying to attack the process and the witnesses when the facts and evidence and Trump’s own statements implicate him directly.
Or he blames Rudy for all of it as a rogue op. Throw everyone else under the bus.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 7, 2019
re: #79 HappyWarrior
I think Fox News conservatives are only happy if they’re outraged. It looked like they’re seriously trying to accuse the left of havng a war on Thanksgiving now. I swear they’re not going to be happy until they ruin every fucking holiday with their nonsense about how there’s a “war” on it. I love Christmas. It and the new year are the only thing I really enjoy about winter(I don’t like cold weather and snow is more meh when you’re an adult) but Fox has to make every holiday season about how saying Merry Christmas is the worst thing ever. It’s fucking business and oh yeah there are other holidays that people in this country celebrate other than Christmas in that time of year.
They need someone to blame for their shitty lives. Fox fuels that outrage.
Fox millionaires stoking fear and hate of The Other by people who are too stupid to know why their lives took a wrong turn.
re: #84 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
They need someone to blame for their shitty lives. Fox fuels that outrage.
Fox millionaires stoking fear and hate of The Other by people who are too stupid to know why their lives took a wrong turn.
Laura fucking Ingraham who adopted children from overseas bitching about how immigrants are why Virginia turned Democratic. And yeah they are but that’s not a fucking bad thing. I am so sick of fucking FNC potrraying themselves as the voice of “real America” when they’re just a pet project of a bigoted old Australian piece of shit.
re: #85 HappyWarrior
Laura fucking Ingraham who adopted children from overseas bitching about how immigrants are why Virginia turned Democratic.
And don’t think her children don’t feel that message about themselves.
re: #76 jaunte
The confirmation bias industry just keeps humming along.
Once you’ve gotten the rubes by their nucleus accumbens, never let em go.
Oh, good morning folks!
re: #79 HappyWarrior
I think Fox News conservatives are only happy if they’re outraged. It looked like they’re seriously trying to accuse the left of havng a war on Thanksgiving now. I swear they’re not going to be happy until they ruin every fucking holiday with their nonsense about how there’s a “war” on it. I love Christmas. It and the new year are the only thing I really enjoy about winter(I don’t like cold weather and snow is more meh when you’re an adult) but Fox has to make every holiday season about how saying Merry Christmas is the worst thing ever. It’s fucking business and oh yeah there are other holidays that people in this country celebrate other than Christmas in that time of year.
Yet the fundies have no problem waging a war on Halloween. Guess their views are the only valid ones.
re: #86 jaunte
And don’t think her children don’t feel that message about themselves.
Yeah imagine knowing your Mom goes on TV every night and says people who look like you are “invaders.” Laura’s a cheap Ann Coulter clone with nary an original thought.
re: #88 Eventual Carrion
Yet the fundies have no problem waging a war on Halloween. Guess their views are the only valid ones.
That’s somehow different.
re: #36 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
and the Soros-funded, Obama-led Deep State
Part of the GOP freak-out with losing all the local offices in Delaware County was that one of the Democratic candidates had some funding from Soros.
re: #91 Feline Fearless Leader
Part of the GOP freak-out with losing all the local offices in Delaware County was that one of the Democratic candidates had some funding from Soros.
That’s why even though I think Soros is a better person than the Kochs don’t resort to ZOMG the Kochs. Now that said, the Kochs are literally people whose fortune is tied to a John Birch co-founder and Soros is someone who survived two of the most tyrannical regimes of the 20th century. I think one actually knows what’s at stake here rather than being a man baby like Charles Koch is and make no mistake Charles Koch is definitely a man baby.
re: #85 HappyWarrior
Laura fucking Ingraham who adopted children from overseas bitching about how immigrants are why Virginia turned Democratic. And yeah they are but that’s not a fucking bad thing. I am so sick of fucking FNC potrraying themselves as the voice of “real America” when they’re just a pet project of a bigoted old Australian piece of shit.
America can never fix any problems as long as Fox exists.
re: #93 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
America can never fix any problems as long as Fox exists.
I’d say the 27% craze factor but there’s overlap tehre. FNC will set out to make whoever the Dems nominate out to be the biggest leftist ever.
re: #47 Eclectic Cyborg
The University of Alabama has “clarified” their statement regarding fans being removed for booing Trump.
The revised statement indicates they are fine with people at the game booing Trump and there will be no consequences for those who do, they just don’t want Trump supporters getting in to fights with non Trump supporters and other shenanigans that wouldn’t be welcome at a sporting event.
so we can all but count on some ensuing fisticuffs that will then be blamed on the hateful, intolerant liberals…
re: #82 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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I still think it’s the other way round and that the GOP is the political wing of Fox. Trump pretty much seems to be taking instructions and guidance from Fox more than Fox is taking the lead from the GOP.
re: #92 HappyWarrior
That’s why even though I think Soros is a better person than the Kochs don’t resort to ZOMG the Kochs. Now that said, the Kochs are literally people whose fortune is tied to a John Birch co-founder and Soros is someone who survived two of the most tyrannical regimes of the 20th century. I think one actually knows what’s at stake here rather than being a man baby like Charles Koch is and make no mistake Charles Koch is definitely a man baby.
Koch’s are/were just little trust fund/inherit rich kids that never had to work a day in their lives. Just like the squatter in the oval office.
re: #96 Feline Fearless Leader
I still think it’s the other way round and that the GOP is the political wing of Fox. Trump pretty much seems to be taking instructions and guidance from Fox more than Fox is taking the lead from the GOP.
It’s really difficult to tell but I do think being media people, FNC has a better ear on what the GOP base wants to hear than the GOP political leadership.
re: #97 Eventual Carrion
Koch’s are/were just little trust fund/inherit rich kids that never had to work a day in their lives. Just like the squatter in the oval office.
They’re awful people especially Charles and the patriarch, Fred.
re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
so we can all but count on some ensuing fisticuffs that will then be blamed on the hateful, intolerant liberals…
And fisticuffs at a large sporting event are just about guaranteed since alcohol will be present and there is almost nothing like pre-game tailgating to get a bunch of people lit before they even enter the stadium.
re: #98 HappyWarrior
It’s really difficult to tell but I do think being media people, FNC has a better ear on what the GOP base wants to hear than the GOP political leadership.
But Fox IS the GOP political leadership.
re: #86 jaunte
And don’t think her children don’t feel that message about themselves.
I wonder how she can look her children in the eye and explain why she fosters hate against them.
re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg
But Fox IS the GOP political leadership.
I meant the elected leaders and the RNC people. Honestly, I don’t know. But I tell you this much. It’s disturbing how much influence Hannity had on the Ukraine policy stuff. This guy isn’t a journalist or even a member of the media. He’s a fucking Trump operative. FNC is as close to Russian state TV as we get. If Chris Wallace leaves FNC, it will get even more unhinged.
For example, the Secretary of State was on the Zelensky call, watched the communications with the Ukrainians unfold under his department’s auspices, and is loyal to Trump. He would appear to be an excellent GOP witness.
— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) November 7, 2019
Pompeo’s chance to go down with the ship.
re: #102 NO SMOCKING GUN!
I wonder how she can look her children in the eye and explain why she fosters hate against them.
She can’t and I hope her kids loathe her.
re: #102 NO SMOCKING GUN!
They’ll feel emotionally forced to accommodate her hatefulness right up to the day they revolt.
Instead of defending his own actions, Trump has tweeted that…
- Adam Schiff is “Corrupt”
- Whistleblower is a “Scammer”
- Media are “Degenerate”
- Democrats are “Weak”
- Whistleblower’s Lawyer is “Deep State”
…When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers.— Translate Trump (@TranslateRealDT) November 7, 2019
re: #94 HappyWarrior
I’d say the 27% craze factor but there’s overlap tehre. FNC will set out to make whoever the Dems nominate out to be the biggest leftist ever.
I believe their exact words are “Most Liberal Ever” which they use every. single. year. again and again. It would almost be funny if their viewers weren’t dumb as grass.
re: #96 Feline Fearless Leader
I still think it’s the other way round and that the GOP is the political wing of Fox. Trump pretty much seems to be taking instructions and guidance from Fox more than Fox is taking the lead from the GOP.
And Murdoch has close relations with Russia, is funded partially by Saudi Arabia and is pure, unadulterated anti-American.
re: #108 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I believe their exact words are “Most Liberal Ever” which they use every. single. year. again and again. It would almost be funny if their viewers weren’t dumb as grass.
Yep.
re: #98 HappyWarrior
It’s really difficult to tell but I do think being media people, FNC has a better ear on what the GOP base wants to hear than the GOP political leadership.
I disagree. Fox drives what the base wants to hear. They plant the seeds, nurture the hate, and then sow the results.
re: #100 Feline Fearless Leader
And fisticuffs at a large sporting event are just about guaranteed since alcohol will be present and there is almost nothing like pre-game tailgating to get a bunch of people lit before they even enter the stadium.
Wife and I discussed making the trip. Wife’s message exchange with Daughter2, ex-Auburn girl:
Wife: You have tailgated at UA. What do you have to do to get in? How much does it cost to be outside the stadium? How early would we need to Be there?
Dau2: Why the heck would you tailgate at Bama?
Wife: Trump is going to be there and Doug Jones is asking Dems to show up. Students have been warned not to boo but that doesn’t mean the rest of Us!
Dau2: I can not recommend enough that you NOT go. It’s the LSU game. Drunk Cajuns + Trump + game day traffic. No amount of booing is worth everything that will be wrong in Tuscaloosa on Saturday.
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re: #13 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
trump style thinly disguised racism
Laura Ingraham blames the GOP losing Virginia on “demographic changes”, “foreign-born population”, and an altered “demographic makeup”
Also…less votes
re: #102 NO SMOCKING GUN!
I wonder how she can look her children in the eye and explain why she fosters hate against them.
Sociopath. Inability to connect what she says to what she does. Cognitive dissonance. No conscience.
re: #111 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I disagree. Fox drives what the base wants to hear. They plant the seeds, nurture the hate, and then sow the results.
I think we’re saying hte same thing. FNC knows what the base wants to hear so in your words they plant the seeds i.e. birtherism, nativism, etc. FNC is a lot more in your face nativist than they were in the Bush years.
re: #112 Decatur Deb
Wife and I discussed making the trip. Wife’s message exchange with Daughter2, ex-Auburn girl:
Wife: You have tailgated at UA. What do you have to do to get in? How much does it cost to be outside the stadium? How early would we need to Be there?
Dau2: Why the heck would you tailgate at Bama?
Wife: Trump is going to be there and Doug Jones is asking Dems to show up. Students have been warned not to boo but that doesn’t mean the rest of Us!
Dau2: I can not recommend enough that you NOT go. It’s the LSU game. Drunk Cajuns + Trump + game day traffic. No amount of booing is worth everything that will be wrong in Tuscaloosa on Saturday.
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That’s what they are hoping for. And that is why dems need to show up.
I am not saying put yourself in danger…which this likely would do. But if we (collectively) don’t do anything….
re: #100 Feline Fearless Leader
And fisticuffs at a large sporting event are just about guaranteed since alcohol will be present and there is almost nothing like pre-game tailgating to get a bunch of people lit before they even enter the stadium.
this all sounds like a plan to make Trump the victim of intolerant, hating liberals
re: #117 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
That’s what they are hoping for. And that is why dems need to show up.
I am not saying put yourself in danger…which this likely would do. But if we (collectively) don’t do anything….
It’s not the danger—Wife swings a mean walker. It’s the 400 mile drive and no guarantee of getting in. Still in assessment stage.
re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
He did his duty with his ludicrous four-page summary of the Mueller Report
Daffy they love ya, they want more….
I know I know but I can only do it once
Republicans really do hate one-person, one-vote democracy. They’re all about rigging the system in their favor, because they simply cannot win a fair vote. https://t.co/FCgDZXo7iG
— Markos Moulitsas (@markos) November 7, 2019
re: #50 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Comma missing after don’t?
Let’s get this trending.
Trump had a sign behind the podium in Louisiana begging the audience not to leave, and yet there are STILL plenty of empty seats plainly visible.#PleaseDontLeave https://t.co/458Qd838lj— The Ghost of Ludwig Kaas (@LudwigsGhost) November 7, 2019
re: #119 Decatur Deb
It’s not the danger—Wife swings a mean walker. It’s the 400 mile drive and no guarantee of getting in. Still in assessment stage.
i wish you both well. Stay safe!
re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
this all sounds like a plan to make Trump the victim of intolerant, hating liberals
He already is. That’s what the baseball game and the UFC event were for. //
The plan was for Trump to show up at a major sporting event in the South, where he’s loved, and would get huge cheers for his reelection commercials. The schools tried to go along, but the students were having none of it. There’s no high level plan.
re: #121 DodgerFan1988
They prove this everytime they gain power.
re: #121 DodgerFan1988
I’ve looked at those maps twice and I am missing the point. Can you clarify?
re: #79 HappyWarrior
I think Fox News conservatives are only happy if they’re outraged.
Not just Fox viewers, but conservatives in general.
I meant to take a photo of the campaign signs the Conservative party puts up around here. In full, they say:
‘Had enough? Vote Row C!’
They don’t say had enough of what, but you can be goddamned sure that every one of those assholes has had enough of something, be it immigrants, taxes, liberals, what have you.
Rage for rage’s sake. That’s one hell of a campaign message, ain’t it?
re: #124 Belafon
He already is. That’s what the baseball game and the UFC event were for. //
The plan was for Trump to show up at a major sporting event in the South, where he’s loved, and would get huge cheers for his reelection commercials. The schools tried to go along, but the students were having none of it. There’s no high level plan.
Yep. I understand not wanting to underestimate Trump but we overestimate him too. I think he really thought that he would get cheers at Nats Park and then the UFC match. He’s in a for a rude awakening. I stlil do think he’ll get more cheers than boos- it is Alabama after all but it’s not going to be the loud cheers he hopes for. And frankly it’s fucking pathetic. We go to these sports events to get our minds off of politics. That’s exactly why they’re booing and he makes everything worse.
re: #122 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
Comma missing after don’t?
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re: #129 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
You can’t put any punctuation into a hashtag. It would be #PleaseDon tLeave
I think he meant in the sign. Think Lionel Hutz, “No Money Down” -> “No, Money Down”. (I can’t copy the video at work.)
re: #126 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I’ve looked at those maps twice and I am missing the point. Can you clarify?
That’s Kelli Ward. The other kook that ran in the AZ Republican primary with Sheriff Joe. It’s the usual Republican argument that landmasses mean more than people. It’s such a fucking pathetic attempt to subvert democracy. I remember after Obama won Virginia again in 2012, the Republicans in the state legislature actually briefly tried making Virginia’s EVs based off who won the most congressional districts. McDonnell, corrupt bastard and all actually talked them out of it thankfully. I am so fucking tired of Republicans who can’t accept the fact that population density is a thing and the fact that they fail miserably in more densely populated areas should be used to subvert the votes of the people in those areas. One man, one vote. End of goddamn story.
re: #127 makeitstop
Not just Fox viewers, but conservatives in general.
I meant to take a photo of the campaign signs the Conservative party puts up around here. In full, they say:
‘Had enough? Vote Row C!’
They don’t say had enough of what, but you can be goddamned sure that every one of those assholes has had enough of something, be it immigrants, taxes, liberals, what have you.
Rage for rage’s sake. That’s one hell of a campaign message, ain’t it?
Another thing but why the hell would you want the government in charge of people who profess to hate it? I don’t “love” the government. The government just is.
re: #129 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
You can’t put any punctuation into a hashtag. It would be #PleaseDon tLeave
Please, Don! Leave!
re: #132 HappyWarrior
Another thing but why the hell would you want the government in charge of people who profess to hate it? I don’t “love” the government. The government just is.
You’d almost want people to experience “no government” for a period of time on the short end of the stick in order to understand what benefit it actually is. Heck, I’d almost want them to experience local government on the short end of the stick in order to appreciate what use oversight and state- and federal- standards are.
(Edit: Who am I kidding? A lack of empathy seems to be a major defining characteristic of jackasses.)
re: #126 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I’ve looked at those maps twice and I am missing the point. Can you clarify?
She’s saying that because all that land went red, as opposed to actual people, they need to rig the system to give smaller population centers outsized influence.
re: #134 Feline Fearless Leader
You’d almost want people to experience “no government” for a period of time on the short end of the stick in order to understand what benefit it actually is. Heck, I’d almost want them to experience local government on the short end of the stick in order to appreciate what use oversight and state- and federal- standards are.
It is so easy to rail against “big government” when you’re approaching everything abstractly rather than from a position of reality. But the thing is most “small government” conservatives are frauds who love big government when it suits their ends.
What Kelli Ward is basically acknowledging whether she realizes it or not is that Republicans and conservatives will never have the American people on their side especially as demographics change so tehy have to resort to “Well we have more counties.” That’s nice but when your county is smaller than a twon in another county, that’s just what it is. Your vote doesn’t mean anything more because you’re in a sparsely populated area and there are more of your areas than your opposition’s. One man, one vote not one county, one vote.
re: #138 HappyWarrior
What Kelli Ward is basically acknowledging whether she realizes it or not is that Republicans and conservatives will never have the American people on their side especially as demographics change so tehy have to resort to “Well we have more counties.” That’s nice but when your county is smaller than a twon in another county, that’s just what it is. Your vote doesn’t mean anything more because you’re in a sparsely populated area and there are more of your areas than your opposition’s. One man, one vote not one county, one vote.
I’m sure they’ll eventually start pushing for voting power based on owned acreage at some point. And base it on a claim that it is what the Founders intended.
And the President (if a Republican only) gets to vote the acreage of all the Federal-owned land.
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re: #86 jaunte
And don’t think her children don’t feel that message about themselves.
Wait till the kids grow up and they write their Mommie Dearest books about what a evil stepmother they had!
re: #138 HappyWarrior
What Kelli Ward is basically acknowledging whether she realizes it or not is that Republicans and conservatives will never have the American people on their side especially as demographics change so tehy have to resort to “Well we have more counties.” That’s nice but when your county is smaller than a twon in another county, that’s just what it is. Your vote doesn’t mean anything more because you’re in a sparsely populated area and there are more of your areas than your opposition’s. One man, one vote not one county, one vote.
If NYC, LA, Chicago, DFW, and Houston Metropolitan areas were to each become states, they would all be in the top 15. 35 states have a smaller population than 5 ubran areas.
re: #141 Belafon
If NYC, LA, Chicago, DFW, and Houston Metropolitan areas were to each become states, they would all be in the top 15. 35 states have a smaller population than 5 ubran areas.
They want landmass to vote. If it did, it wouldn’t vote for those who rape and mistreat it.
Just sayin’.
re: #141 Belafon
There were more people who voted for Trump in California than those who voted for Trump in Alabama, Arizona, Alaska, and Arkansas. Trump lost by millions of votes in California.
It’s not landmass that matters - it’s the number of votes.
In NYS, the majority of voters live in just 7 counties: NYC (Kings, Queens, Bronx, Manhattan, and Richmond), Suffolk, and Nassau. Throw in Westchester and Rockland, and those 9 counties.
NYC has 8.7 million out of the 19 million living in NYS. With Nassau, Suffolk, Nassau, Westchester, and Rockland, and you account for 12.8 million NYers. Most of the rest are dispersed with a few population centers like Buffalo (Erie), Rochester, Syracuse, and Albany while vast portions of the state have rural population densities.
re: #130 Belafon
I think he meant in the sign. Think Lionel Hutz, “No Money Down” -> “No, Money Down”. (I can’t copy the video at work.)
yeah that -
let’s eat grandma
let’s eat, grandma
re: #121 DodgerFan1988
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re: #143 lawhawk
The three largest metro areas here in Texas - DFW, Houston, and San Antonio - represent 2/3 of the state’s population.
Olear has Giuliani pegged. Thread.
Let’s talk about Rudy Giuliani, once America’s Mayor, now Trump’s lickspittle, who stands at the center of the Ukraine scandal.
Understand: He did NOT “fall from grace.” He has always been egomaniacal, self-serving, loquacious, mean-spirited, and morally bankrupt.
[THREAD] pic.twitter.com/eV9hEtQimc— Greg Olear (@gregolear) November 7, 2019
re: #146 Belafon
Yup. Most of the US landmass has a rural population density. The overwhelming majority of people living in the US live in cities and their exurbs. That’s why maps that show where people live/vote better represent the outcome of the elections.
Maps showing lots of red make the GOPers feel better about the fact that they lost the popular vote and that they think land votes (which in perverse way it does by and through the EC, which gives sparsely populated states a vastly overrated say in government).
re: #145 Joe Bacon 🌹
Kelli believes that only White Male Xtian Propertyholders should vote.
Ann Coulter admits that’s the end game. Hell Ann even wants to limit suffrage to people with all four grandparents born in the US which would mean I’m the first person in my family who can vote despite having someone in my direct line in the US since Washington but then again I don’t own land. Conservatives constantly talk about weakening the ability to participate in our society whether that’s suffrage, the right to organize, the right to be who you are without discrimination, etc.
re: #147 makeitstop
Olear has Giuliani pegged. Thread.
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I remember a junior prosecutor saying he was warned to never get between Giuliani and a microphone when he started work in NYC…
If conservatives become convinced they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will abandon democracy.
Erdogan says U.S. not fulfilling pledge to remove Kurds from Syria border area https://t.co/AtdwBbw7Rq
Trump gave Turkey green light to engage in ethnic cleansing, and now Trump’s dragging his feet after being caught doing the thing without consulting anyone - not in the DoD, not the IC, or even his GOP leadership.
Trump’s foreign policy is a series of unfortunate events, all of which ultimately benefit Russia and various autocrats, dictators, and despots.
SCOTUS Justices Kavanaugh and Alito have been asked to recuse themselves from LGBTQ cases after photo shows the pair posing with anti-gay hate group leader. https://t.co/wjJnbfBNNa
— KrisS 🔥 Your Vote, Your Voice 🔥 (@MplsMe) November 7, 2019
re: #154 Dave In Austin
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Roberts’ umpires wearing Yankees hats to the Yankees-Sox game that they’re umping.
re: #147 makeitstop
Fact check:
Yup.
That’s accurate.
Rudy’s best moment was that he noted that the death toll would be more than any of us could bear. The reality is that Rudy’s failures in the years prior to 9/11 made the death toll significantly worse among first responders. The radio issue was something that should have been resolved years earlier, but they couldn’t implement a working system so calls to withdraw from the towers due to concerns about collapse went unheeded, even after the first tower fell.
Siting the OEM in 7WTC was a huge mistake, especially since the WTC complex was already targeted by terrorists in 1993, and they came incredibly close to taking the towers down then - had they detonated the bomb in a slightly different position, it could have severed the high pressure gas lines that feed the complex, causing a far more devastating explosion and fire.
But Rudy wanted OEM near to City Hall, instead of at a secured location elsewhere - like Metrotech in Brooklyn where the 911 call center is located, or in some other part of NYC that could handle emergencies should there be a problem at one of the most visible and previously targeted sites in the nation.
Rudy has been noun, verb, 9/11 ever since.
re: #155 HappyWarrior
I think we’re going to see lots of cases get pushed back to the lower courts between now and next Nov.
re: #155 HappyWarrior
Roberts’ umpires wearing Yankees hats to the Yankees-Sox game that they’re umping.
So? They’re there to do what the Billionaires tell them to do not worry about silly little things like the US Code or the constitution …
FS Vendemiaire (F734) / USS Michael Murphy (DDG-112) pic.twitter.com/5DQIB0feKe
— Giant Military Cats (@GiantCat9) November 6, 2019
re: #156 lawhawk
Fact check:
Yup.
That’s accurate.
Rudy’s best moment was that he noted that the death toll would be more than any of us could bear. The reality is that Rudy’s failures in the years prior to 9/11 made the death toll significantly worse among first responders. The radio issue was something that should have been resolved years earlier, but they couldn’t implement a working system so calls to withdraw from the towers due to concerns about collapse went unheeded, even after the first tower fell.
Siting the OEM in 7WTC was a huge mistake, especially since the WTC complex was already targeted by terrorists in 1993, and they came incredibly close to taking the towers down then - had they detonated the bomb in a slightly different position, it could have severed the high pressure gas lines that feed the complex, causing a far more devastating explosion and fire.
But Rudy wanted OEM near to City Hall, instead of at a secured location elsewhere - like Metrotech in Brooklyn where the 911 call center is located, or in some other part of NYC that could handle emergencies should there be a problem at one of the most visible and previously targeted sites in the nation.
Rudy has been noun, verb, 9/11 ever since.
I have to confess I did buy the mythos though it disgusted me how nakedly partisan Rudy was to the Kerry-Edwards ticket and then treating Obama as the “other” who was soft on terrorism.
U.S. and Soviet troops meet at the River Elbe, April 25, 1945. pic.twitter.com/2GfhE8zXzS
— Antonio Bequer 🌊🐮 (@AntonioBequer) November 4, 2019
re: #113 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
Laura Ingraham blames the GOP losing Virginia on “demographic changes”, “foreign-born population”, and an altered “demographic makeup”
It’s all the white people turning black. Happens every time.
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re: #162 Sir John Barron
It’s all the white people turning black. Happens every time.
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All that damned shoe polish jumping out of the closet and attacking your face.
Tragic.
re: #163 Scottish Dragon
All that damned shoe polish jumping out of the closet and attacking your face.
Tragic.
Neil Diamond learned the hard way…
re: #122 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
Comma missing after don’t?
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re: #156 lawhawk
Fact check:
Yup.
That’s accurate.
Rudy’s best moment was that he noted that the death toll would be more than any of us could bear.
Nah; Rudy’s best moment was endorsing Bloomberg.
I’m a huge Bloomberg fan; nobody else would have been as pro-active preparing for Sandy, and things would have been far worse if we’d had someone too timid to close the subways and order hospitals to move all their basement stuff upstairs. Also, Bloomberg did an awesome job with parks and waterfront development.
As Roger Stone’s trial enters its third day, Stone ally Alex Jones is stepping up his threats to out the Stone jurors and expose them to harassment from the Infowars audience. https://t.co/STcSLaudZ9
— Will Sommer (@willsommer) November 7, 2019
re: #169 lawhawk
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re: #164 Joe Bacon 🌹
Neil Diamond learned the hard way…
Michelle Schocked did an album of old-timey songs and wrote in the liner notes that she considered appearing in blackface on the cover, not to ridicule black people, but as a nod to the southern blackface minstrel tradition.
But she wrote that she knew there would be too much backlash.
re: #148 lawhawk
Yup. Most of the US landmass has a rural population density. The overwhelming majority of people living in the US live in cities and their exurbs. That’s why maps that show where people live/vote better represent the outcome of the elections.
Maps showing lots of red make the GOPers feel better about the fact that they lost the popular vote and that they think land votes (which in perverse way it does by and through the EC, which gives sparsely populated states a vastly overrated say in government).
apropos of all this voting and landmass talk, electoral-vote.com coincidentally had this post today:
Some pundits describe American politics as urban vs. rural, but the number of truly rural voters is only 14%, so that isn’t such a good divide. David Wasserman has a different and unusual way of looking it at, through aviation. He divides the country into four boarding zones:
it’s an interesting approach
and not all good news for dems.
re: #169 lawhawk
I think a judge needs to be notified of that.
re: #154 Dave In Austin
SCOTUS Justices Kavanaugh and Alito have been asked to recuse themselves from LGBTQ cases after photo shows the pair posing with anti-gay hate group leader.
They won’t.
re: #172 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
and not all good news for dems.
Nothing’s ever good news for Democrats, even good news.
clever commenter on politicalwire.com this AM:
the R’s have morphed from “Quid pro quo” to “Quid pro, so?”
which raises the question, “How many Republicans does it take to move a goalpost?”
i left a line out
refresh 178
re: #178 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
clever commenter on politicalwire.com this AM:
the R’s have morphed from “Quid pro quo” to “Quid pro, so?”
More like “Quid pro, you gotta a problem wit’ that?”
re: #178 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
clever commenter on politicalwire.com this AM:
the R’s have morphed from “Quid pro quo” to “Quid pro, so?”
which raises the question, “How many Republicans does it take to move a goalpost?”
It only takes one Republican to move a goalpost, but they have so many to move now they’re all busy.
re: #180 Feline Fearless Leader
Quid Pro Kill The Witnesses
re: #178 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
clever commenter on politicalwire.com this AM:
the R’s have morphed from “Quid pro quo” to “Quid pro, so?”
which raises the question, “How many Republicans does it take to move a goalpost?”
But they’ll still demonize the whistleblower and everyone else opposed their dear leader.
John Bolton is willing to testify and will confirm the extortion plot that others have testified about if the court clears the way — and will even testify about his private conversations with Trump.
New from WaPo:https://t.co/cyytBsDzcE pic.twitter.com/8pTCLVnG6X— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) November 7, 2019
The ratlines are getting crowded. Every resume looks like a ransom note now. https://t.co/PYdjk3kuUC
— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) November 7, 2019
re: #185 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Trump’s gonna have a stroke.
re: #184 Sir John Barron
But they’ll still demonize the whistleblower and everyone else opposed their dear leader.
its all they got
they know it
and they’re not gonna let it go
and if/as they keep pushing it, it’s gonna backfire (i think)
re: #65 lawhawk
Javert: Do you have any baguettes for sale.
Baker: I do, Two for $6.01.
Javert: Where is Jean Valjean?!
I finally tried a bagel with cream cheese and lox. I had to wait until I 1)found an actual bagel shop 2) found an actual bagel shop that I trusted to feed me an actual cream cheese and lox bagel. Delicious! Though they cut the thing in half for some reason. I don’t need it cut in half. It’s a friggin bagel. It’s designed to be eaten while driving.
re: #189 steve_davis
I finally tried a bagel with cream cheese and lox. I had to wait until I 1)found an actual bagel shop 2) found an actual bagel shop that I trusted to feed me an actual cream cheese and lox bagel. Delicious! Though they cut the thing in half for some reason. I don’t need it cut in half. It’s a friggin bagel. It’s designed to be eaten while driving.
at least they did not slice it vertically
re: #185 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Follow up tweets.
He’s willing to testify “if a federal court clears his way.” But there is currently no judicial proceeding to enforce the request for his testimony, and it would take a while to resolve (even if he doesn’t wait for appeals), so this is very unlikely to happen soon.
— Eric Columbus (@EricColumbus) November 7, 2019
I’m not entirely sure. It might be that they expect to win soon in the McGahn case, which raises the same absolute-immunity issue, and want to use that as part of the obstruction case rather than risk an adverse decision from Judge Leon in the Kupperman case. Just a theory.
— Eric Columbus (@EricColumbus) November 7, 2019
re: #137 HappyWarrior
All conservatives hate socialism until they need it.
re: #194 Ace Rothstein
All conservatives hate socialism until they need it.
Bismarck co-opted a lot of socialist-style programs because he knew to not do so would have triggered the next series of revolutions in the recently consolidating Germany.
re: #121 DodgerFan1988
maybe try running candidates who might win more votes.
give that a whirl.— kevin (@KevINthe406) November 7, 2019
re: #193 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Follow up tweets.
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kupperman has been n/a’d (electoral-vote.com, once again on the case)
In another indication that the impeachment inquiry has entered a new phase, House Democrats on Wednesday told former deputy national security adviser Charles Kupperman, “Thanks, but no thanks!” Kupperman is the fellow who asked a judge to decide whether or not it is necessary to obey a congressional subpoena. It would appear that Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) & Co. feel that they pretty much have all the information they need, and they would rather not waste time pulling teeth to collect dubious testimony from Trump-friendly witnesses. The top priority now is to air the administration’s dirty laundry in public, so the blue team can move forward with articles of impeachment.
If Bevin calls a special session to steal the election, we have to take to the streets in Frankfort to shut that shit down.
Kentucky’s Republican Senate president has hinted that he’d be willing to try to help Matt Bevin steal this race. Could they do it? https://t.co/BeOU6q5opE
— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) November 7, 2019
re: #193 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Profiles in cowardice.
If you’ve got evidence of Trump crimes and malfeasance, Bolton’s going to wait for a court to decide whether he can testify under oath because Trump will try to claim immunity to suppress the testimony.
re: #201 lawhawk
Profiles in cowardice.
If you’ve got evidence of Trump crimes and malfeasance, Bolton’s going to wait for a court to decide whether he can testify under oath because Trump will try to claim immunity to suppress the testimony.
We don’t need Bolton at this point. If he wants to be on the right side of history on this, he should volunteer his testimony. If he wants to dither like a coward, fuck him.
re: #152 lawhawk
How exactly would the U.S. “remove” Kurds from Northern Syria? This is outrageous and harkens back to darker days.
A comment from @CNN and @FareedZakaria is required as to their potential involvement in foreign interference in U.S. democracy by Trump and Russia. https://t.co/tCObBJAm7d
— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) November 7, 2019
re: #204 Dread Pirate
Actually CNN bears no fault in this. They’re just reporting the news. I’m more interested in the two Republican Senators who were involved in this fiasco.
re: #203 Patricia Kayden
How exactly would the U.S. “remove” Kurds from Northern Syria? This is outrageous and harkens back to darker days.
Erdogan: you either let us do the ethnic cleansing, or do it yourself. We don’t care. We just want the Kurds gone.
I can’t be any clearer than that.
Trump’s been given his marching orders from Erdogan and Putin, and he’s now slow walking because our enough of the Defense Department isn’t down with ethnic cleansing or war crimes.
My testimony that is part of the suppressed Russia report provides evidence that Russia was paying UK politicians and former spies through friendly oligarchs to go after its enemies in the U.K. This was being done by people from both main political parties https://t.co/wODSbmiYc9
— Bill Browder (@Billbrowder) November 7, 2019
re: #207 Dread Pirate
Wow. So Labor and the Tories are implicated in this scandal.
re: #206 lawhawk
Erdogan: you either let us do the ethnic cleansing, or do it yourself. We don’t care. We just want the Kurds gone.
I can’t be any clearer than that.
Trump’s been given his marching orders from Erdogan and Putin, and he’s now slow walking because our enough of the Defense Department isn’t down with ethnic cleansing or war crimes.
Consistent with the Republican’s policy of mass deportation.
re: #185 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
John Bolton is willing to testify and will confirm the extortion plot that others have testified about if the court clears the way — and will even testify about his private conversations with Trump.
New from WaPo:https://t.co/cyytBsDzcE pic.twitter.com/8pTCLVnG6X— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) November 7, 2019
Lyndon Johnson’s explanation for why he didn’t dismiss J. Edgar Hoover comes to mind:
“I would rather have him inside pissing out than outside pissing in.”
Trump is either too arrogant to apply this or, more likely, too dumb to have ever heard about it.
re: #211 Targetpractice
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re: #200 NO SMOCKING GUN!
If Bevin calls a special session to steal the election, we have to take to the streets in Frankfort to shut that shit down.
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If the State Senate can just decide the winner of an election, what the fuck do you need voters for?
I’ll say it again. Once a Democrat is back in the White House, the first order of business should be to bring every bit of pressure to bear and bring Putin to his knees.
I’m not the least bit against fucking with Russia’s electrical grid, banking system, travel system, offshore accounts, all of it. Every day. Wreck that motherfucker for what he’s doing to the world.
Trump first - and only.
For sale to the highest bidder.
Say nice things about him and you can have anything.— Yeah Sure WTF Ever (@YeahSureWhatev2) November 7, 2019
re: #215 makeitstop
I’ll say it again. Once a Democrat is back in the White House, the first order of business should be to bring every bit of pressure to bear and bring Putin to his knees.
I’m not the least bit against fucking with Russia’s electrical grid, banking system, travel system, offshore accounts, all of it. Every day. Wreck that motherfucker for what he’s doing to the world.
I’d love to see Putin have to face fear in his life again. I’m reading a biography of him written by a NYT reporter. The more I read the more aghast I get at the American conservatives, libertarians, and leftists who have said he was better than Obama.
re: #214 Eclectic Cyborg
If the State Senate can just decide the winner of an election, what the fuck do you need voters for?
“We’re required to hold a vote. You mean we’re required to accept the results, too?!!!”
Schiff, still one step ahead of the Republicans.
BREAKING: SCHIFF details questions that witnesses must speak to in order to be considered relevant to impeachment hearings.
This is meant to guide which GOP witnesses they’re willing to call. The questions: pic.twitter.com/lzVxZcbUcj— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) November 7, 2019
There’s a segment of the population that insists that the center-left wants a Cold War with Russia. The fact of the matter is it’s a response to Putin. Whether it’s his aggression in Ukraine, attacks on liberal democracy throughout Europe, his state homophobia, etc. I’m with MiS, I want Putin to be afraid of the US. I wouldn’t mind using the same tools that he used to sow discord here against him. Two can play that game.
re: #219 makeitstop
Schiff, still one step ahead of the Republicans.
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IOW, he’s trying to preempt the long list of “witnesses” whose sole job will be to sit there and speculate about the “crimes” of the Biden family.
re: #215 makeitstop
I’ll say it again. Once a Democrat is back in the White House, the first order of business should be to bring every bit of pressure to bear and bring Putin to his knees.
I’m not the least bit against fucking with Russia’s electrical grid, banking system, travel system, offshore accounts, all of it. Every day. Wreck that motherfucker for what he’s doing to the world.
Depending how deeply Trump’s let him into our computers, with that whole cyber security cooperation he spoke about… that may be more complicated than it seems.
If all of the witness accounts are wrong, this should be a great opportunity for the R’s to request first-hand witnesses from the administration who will tell a different story. But of course they will all be under oath. https://t.co/NOly9fm3tz
— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) November 7, 2019
For example, the Secretary of State was on the Zelensky call, watched the communications with the Ukrainians unfold under his department’s auspices, and is loyal to Trump. He would appear to be an excellent GOP witness.
— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) November 7, 2019
Expect the first two names on that list to be Schiff and the whistleblower, as Republicans have made clear they think both are part of a grand conspiracy against Dear Leader and figure they can somehow turn chickenshit into chicken salad by saying that their request being denied means Schiff is avoiding having to testify about said conspiracy.
@GiantCat9 hey enough with doctored pics. See this real cat family member Leopard on top of a tank at Indian Army’s School of Artillery.
Pic taken Last night pic.twitter.com/EO0TDcfqU5— Aman Kashyap (@AmanKashyap89) November 6, 2019
re: #220 HappyWarrior
There’s a segment of the population that insists that the center-left wants a Cold War with Russia. The fact of the matter is it’s a response to Putin. Whether it’s his aggression in Ukraine, attacks on liberal democracy throughout Europe, his state homophobia, etc. I’m with MiS, I want Putin to be afraid of the US. I wouldn’t mind using the same tools that he used to sow discord here against him. Two can play that game.
Putin is not a friend of the US. He still operates as a hostile opponent. We should treat him as such.
re: #210 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Lyndon Johnson’s explanation for why he didn’t dismiss J. Edgar Hoover comes to mind:
“I would rather have him inside pissing out than outside pissing in.”
Trump is either too arrogant to apply this or, more likely, too dumb to have ever heard about it.
LBJ was a poor boy who clawed his way to the political top; he wasn’t a spoiled rich brat whose family catered to his every whim. He was a political mastermind (as is Trump in a very different way) and a domestic policy genius who decided his legacy would be helping those who, like him, were not the elite; his fall was due exclusively to lack of foreign policy expertise and reliance on “experts” to provide him the appropriate guidance.
Unlike LBJ, Trump has no knowledge of any aspect of government and has a deeply held belief that his internal instincts and Putin’s orders are all that’s needed to maintain power; he truly believes that he is a genius and there is no one in his party who will gainsay that belief.
Unsolved mysteries and unidentified people is something of hobby of mine, albeit, an admittedly macabre one.
Looks like a 20-year-old mystery has been solved: Racine County Jane Doe, whose body was discovered in a field in the small town of Raymond, WI on 21 July 1999, has been identified and there will be a press conference tomorrow at 11:00 AM CST to announce it and that an individual is already in custody for her death.
re: #227 Belafon
Putin is not a friend of the US. He still operates as a hostile opponent. We should treat him as such.
Trump always said “wouldn’t it be great if we were friends with Russia?” Russia especially Putin was never interested in being ours. IMO Putin is a shrewd guy who used his wits to rise in the post USSR world not to being a true democrat but someone who wanted to return to the Russia of pre-1991. He’s a Russian nationalist first and foremost and he sees us building relationships with the former SRs i.e. Ukraine or satellites i.e. Poland as a threat to him and has a problem with our social liberalism that was spreading under Obama and the HRC State Department.
re: #229 Dr Lizardo
These days, DNA tests will greatly enable quicker solving of these cold cases. Of course this won’t help if remains are not found.
re: #229 Dr Lizardo
Unsolved mysteries and unidentified people is something of hobby of mine, albeit, an admittedly macabre one.
Looks like a 20-year-old mystery has been solved: Racine County Jane Doe, whose body was discovered in a field in the small town of Raymond, WI on 21 July 1999, has been identified and there will be a press conference tomorrow at 11:00 AM CST to announce it and that an individual is already in custody for her death.
I remember this case when I used to watch America’s Most Wanted. I’m glad they finally identified her. Hopefully closure for someone but still heartbreaking all the same. I like unsolved mysteries too btw as a hobby. One of my favorite YouTube channels is ThatChapter. Mike does a nice job telling the story and not making it too tabloid like.
Trump, who vowed not to settle, settles charity fraud case for a $2 million fine. amp.cnn.com
re: #223 Dread Pirate
And they all pretty much admit now that he said and did what he was reported to have said and done.
re: #231 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
These days, DNA tests will greatly enable quicker solving of these cold cases. Of course this won’t help if remains are not found.
True, but what’s somewhat maddening is that there is partial DNA of the Zodiac Killer - yet so far, bupkis, nada.
Could be that it’s because it’s only a partial DNA sample or could be that it’s degraded over the course of time (it’s been over 50 years, after all). Even if Zodiac is still alive, by now he’d likely be an elderly man, in his 70s at least and perhaps in his 80s….and of course, there’s the very real possibility that he’s deceased and took his murderous secrets to the grave.
You caught us. We anticipated how you and your client would try to corruptly extort the Ukrainians more than two years before you did it.
We are psychic, Mr. Mayor. https://t.co/uOqKBhV3fF pic.twitter.com/aaj48xJnzt— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) November 7, 2019
re: #232 HappyWarrior
I remember this case when I used to watch America’s Most Wanted. I’m glad they finally identified her. Hopefully closure for someone but still heartbreaking all the same. I like unsolved mysteries too btw as a hobby. One of my favorite YouTube channels is ThatChapter. Mike does a nice job telling the story and not making it too tabloid like.
And it’s good to see that someone’s already in custody for her death as well.
ATTORNEY in Jan 2017: “Coup has started. First of many steps. rebellion. Impeachment will follow ultimately.” https://t.co/A40DvjzPvR
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) November 7, 2019
Coup financed by Soros to replace white people with illegal immigrants.
NYT just kind of casually drops that two U.S. senators were involved in the Ukraine negotiations and then doesn’t pick that thread back up - has that been reported before? https://t.co/WvZunuqRxS pic.twitter.com/58VELjlbK7
— Christopher Ingraham (@_cingraham) November 7, 2019
re: #237 Dr Lizardo
And it’s good to see that someone’s already in custody for her death as well.
Justice is never too late.
re: #239 jaunte
Probably McConnell and then confirmed by Graham.
re: #238 DodgerFan1988
Coup financed by Soros to replace white people with illegal immigrants.
Sorry Lumpy I couldn’t hear you with Trump’s balls in your mouth.
re: #230 HappyWarrior
Trump always said “wouldn’t it be great if we were friends with Russia?” Russia especially Putin was never interested in being ours. IMO Putin is a shrewd guy who used his wits to rise in the post USSR world not to being a true democrat but someone who wanted to return to the Russia of pre-1991. He’s a Russian nationalist first and foremost and he sees us building relationships with the former SRs i.e. Ukraine or satellites i.e. Poland as a threat to him and has a problem with our social liberalism that was spreading under Obama and the HRC State Department.
There have been Russians(e.g. Gorbachev) with whom we could have collaborated to produce a better world; unfortunately, like Trump, Putin is a man with no morals or ethics who is working to transform the world into his own image: a ruthless autocrat whose goal is personal enrichment and power, with no concern for his own people, let alone the rest of the world. Chinese leaders are nationalists too — but their pursuit of power involves lifting up their population, to make them the most educated and productive nation on this planet. Of course, one could argue that China is just reverting to its historical past with the Communist Party being the new Mandarins; China was the wealthiest nation on the planet until the late nineteenth century and now it’s regaining its crown. Russia never had good leadership — now it’s basically North Korea with nuclear bombs and oil.
re: #238 DodgerFan1988
Coup financed by Soros to replace white people with illegal immigrants.
So what is the background, context of this supposed tweet about a coup?
Simply making this massive obstruction of justice an Article of Impeachment for President Trump is not enough. Congress needs to start penalizing every witness who refuses to cooperate fully w/ Congress: Fines and Prison. Otherwise, we don’t have a republic, we have an autocracy.
— David Rothschild (@DavMicRot) November 7, 2019
re: #241 Feline Fearless Leader
Probably McConnell and then confirmed by Graham.
McConnell is too lazy for that and wouldn’t want his fingerprints on it anyway. I could maybe see Graham, but I can’t think of a good second person.
re: #219 makeitstop
That throws a stake in the heart of the GOP efforts to demand hearing from the Bidens or anyone else along that line of “thought”.
re: #245 Sir John Barron
So what is the background, context of this supposed tweet about a coup?
Someone said something mean (but true) about trump.
re: #244 Hecuba’s daughter
There have been Russians(e.g. Gorbachev) with whom we could have collaborated to produce a better world; unfortunately, like Trump, Putin is a man with no morals or ethics who is working to transform the world into his own image: a ruthless autocrat whose goal is personal enrichment and power, with no concern for his own people, let alone the rest of the world. Chinese leaders are nationalists too — but their pursuit of power involves lifting up their population, to make them the most educated and productive nation on this planet. Of course, one could argue that China is just reverting to its historical past with the Communist Party being the new Mandarins; China was the wealthiest nation on the planet until the late nineteenth century and now it’s regaining its crown. Russia never had good leadership — now it’s basically North Korea with nuclear bombs and oil.
I still think it’s tragic that arguably the most democratic leader that Russia has ever had was probably Boris Yelstin. Gorby could have been good even if he was a bit romantic about Lenin and the USSR state. The problem IMO is Russia went from a state run economy to the worst excesses of capitalism so quickly. I really think finding a balance or more optimally an alternative to capitalism and socialism is the key. The problem is so many are in a Cold War mindset where it has to be one or the other.
re: #219 makeitstop
Schiff, still one step ahead of the Republicans.
UNFAIR! DEPLATFORMING ARE WITNESSES!!
re: #247 Belafon
McConnell is too lazy for that and wouldn’t want his fingerprints on it anyway. I could maybe see Graham, but I can’t think of a good second person.
Cornyn or Rand Paul maybe.
In 2016, he encouraged Russia to attack us.
In 2017-18, he repeatedly tried to stop the investigation into Russia’s attack.
In 2018, he sided with Putin over our own intel folks.
In 2019, he pressured China & Ukraine to sabotage our elections.
He’s disloyal. He’s a traitor.— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) November 7, 2019
re: #247 Belafon
McConnell is too lazy for that and wouldn’t want his fingerprints on it anyway. I could maybe see Graham, but I can’t think of a good second person.
One of the dumber ones. Which could be any of them.
re: #252 HappyWarrior
I still think it’s tragic that arguably the most democratic leader that Russia has ever had was probably Boris Yelstin. Gorby could have been good even if he was a bit romantic about Lenin and the USSR state. The problem IMO is Russia went from a state run economy to the worst excesses of capitalism so quickly. I really think finding a balance or more optimally an alternative to capitalism and socialism is the key. The problem is so many are in a Cold War mindset where it has to be one or the other.
The problem with Yeltsin is that he was afflicted by the common Russian scourge of alcoholism and could not be a truly reliable partner. His selection of Putin as successor brought us to this international crisis that is undermining the liberal world order.
ED: Typed very wrong name as Yeltsin successor!
re: #256 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
I hate that this asshole is right but he is.
re: #258 Hecuba’s daughter
The problem with Yeltsin is that he was afflicted by the common Russian scourge of alcoholism and could not be a truly reliable partner. His selection of Yeltsin as successor brought us to this international crisis that is undermining the liberal world order.
Oh definitely. And yeah I’m just getting to the part of the Putin biography I’m reading when he becomes Yelstin’s successor. The author’s conclusion and I agree with him is that Putin didn’t resign from the KGB in disgust but out of sheer survival instinct.
re: #233 NO SMOCKING GUN!
He can still be charged criminally, correct?
re: #226 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Interesting. That looks like an old M-47 on display. Since we never sold them to the Indians but did sell them to the Pakistani’s, that would have been captured in combat between India & Pakistan. No wonder the Indian cat feels like it’s his place to curl up! ;)
re: #261 Ace Rothstein
He can still be charged criminally, correct?
A judge ordered President Donald Trump to pay $2 million to a collection of nonprofit organizations as part of a settlement with the New York state attorney general’s office to resolve a civil lawsuit that alleged “persistent” violations of charities law that included unlawful coordination with the 2016 Trump presidential campaign, according to a court filing Thursday
I’m assuming not, since this was done with the state AG. It would probably require the USAG to go along with any additional charges.
re: #256 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
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Walsh complained in December 2016 about Trump’s association with Putin. Why it took him till then to object is a mystery — maybe it was that he wanted a GOP president so badly that he was willing to overlook Trump’s repeated fondness for his master Putin prior to the election. But once Trump won, he seemed to realize that there was truly a problem here.
re: #264 Hecuba’s daughter
Walsh complained in December 2016 about Trump’s association with Putin. Why it took him till then to object is a mystery — maybe it was that he wanted a GOP president so badly that he was willing to overlook Trump’s repeated fondness for his master Putin prior to the election. But once Trump won, he seemed to realize that there was truly a problem here.
Not to stick for that asshole in any way but I am sure that there was a lot of inner soul searching, inability to accept what he saw, overcoming the conservative brainwashing, shit like that he had to internalize.
He is still and always will be an asshole in my eyes, but I think this is a process.
And it is one that needs to happen to everyone calling themselves conservative.
Who has not wanted to assault Glenn Greenwald at one point or another.
— Grytpype-Thynne 🗽🌊 (@GrytpypeOBE) November 7, 2019
re: #252 HappyWarrior
I still think it’s tragic that arguably the most democratic leader that Russia has ever had was probably Boris Yelstin. Gorby could have been good even if he was a bit romantic about Lenin and the USSR state. The problem IMO is Russia went from a state run economy to the worst excesses of capitalism so quickly. I really think finding a balance or more optimally an alternative to capitalism and socialism is the key. The problem is so many are in a Cold War mindset where it has to be one or the other.
I’m not even sure it’s fair to say they succumbed to the worst excesses of capitalism as much as it is to say they went from state run economy to anarchy, which lasted just long enough for oligarchs to take control
re: #262 William Lewis
Interesting. That looks like an old M-47 on display. Since we never sold them to the Indians but did sell them to the Pakistani’s, that would have been captured in combat between India & Pakistan. No wonder the Indian cat feels like it’s his place to curl up! ;)
Ding ding ding…. winner winner chicken dinner.
re: #262 William Lewis
Interesting. That looks like an old M-47 on display. Since we never sold them to the Indians but did sell them to the Pakistani’s, that would have been captured in combat between India & Pakistan. No wonder the Indian cat feels like it’s his place to curl up! ;)
Bow gunner’s position is a giveaway. Looks to have a different turret mounted though.
re: #265 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Not to stick for that asshole in any way but I am sure that there was a lot of inner soul searching, inability to accept what he saw, overcoming the conservative brainwashing, shit like that he had to internalize.
He is still and always will be an asshole in my eyes, but I think this is a process.
And it is one that needs to happen to everyone calling themselves conservative.
Another thing that needs to happen is to acknowledge Trump didn’t come out of nowhere.
re: #267 KGxvi
I’m not even sure it’s fair to say they succumbed to the worst excesses of capitalism as much as it is to say they went from state run economy to anarchy, which lasted just long enough for oligarchs to take control
That’s fair. What I mean is the market went from being completely regulated to chaos. I still think the best economic model depending on your country is perhaps something in between the Nordic model and a center-right one. The problems IMO when you go to absolutism on either end.
re: #264 Hecuba’s daughter
Walsh complained in December 2016 about Trump’s association with Putin. Why it took him till then to object is a mystery — maybe it was that he wanted a GOP president so badly that he was willing to overlook Trump’s repeated fondness for his master Putin prior to the election. But once Trump won, he seemed to realize that there was truly a problem here.
December was when Obama instituted sanctions, and released information such as his talk with McConnell. We all knew Trump was a little too chummy with Putin. The extent wasn’t fully revealed until later.
OK, yesterday was the grand opening of a 7-11 next to the Normandie Metro Station in Los Angeles.
And today the County Health Department shut it down for vermin infestation…
re: #274 Joe Bacon 🌹
OK, yesterday was the grand opening of a 7-11 next to the Normandie Metro Station in Los Angeles.
And today the County Health Department shut it down for vermin infestation…
That was fast. Yikes.
re: #274 Joe Bacon 🌹
OK, yesterday was the grand opening of a 7-11 next to the Normandie Metro Station in Los Angeles.
And today the County Health Department shut it down for vermin infestation…
They shoulda opened the 7-11 on 11-7, after uninviting the vermin.
A judge orders President Trump to pay $2 million to settle a lawsuit alleging he misused his charitable foundation to further his political and business interests. The judge also agreed on a deal to close the Trump Foundation, distribute remaining funds. https://t.co/WkXcGzRYHf
— The Associated Press (@AP) November 7, 2019
re: #215 makeitstop
I’m not the least bit against fucking with Russia’s electrical grid, banking system, travel system, offshore accounts, all of it. Every day. Wreck that motherfucker for what he’s doing to the world.
Oh that’s a fucking good idea, launch terrorist attacks on a nuclear armed state.
How many Russian people are you prepared to kill by “fucking with Russia’s electrical grid”? How many Americans are you prepared to lose in the retaliation?
re: #271 HappyWarrior
Another thing that needs to happen is to acknowledge Trump didn’t come out of nowhere.
That’s true for his entire domestic policy. But his foreign policy? That certainly appears to have emerged from nowhere. Except for Rand Paul and Dana Rohrabacher, where are there antecedents to Trump’s Russia love among Republican politicians in Washington?
re: #269 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Bow gunner’s position is a giveaway. Looks to have a different turret mounted though.
Nope, that is the original, a very weird turret design that they hoped would provide better protection but simply left much less room for the crew in the turret. When I was little I thought it looked cool. Once I became a tanker in the Army, I learned how the M48 & M60 turrets were far superior that design.
But yeah, bow mg, 90mm main gun, rubber American tracks are all tells.
Good mechanically, decent armament and fire control but the Pakistani crew training was poor and the Indian crews of their T-55s were far better. If the crews were similar, they’d have done well enough but in the real world in 1965 the Indians lost 6 tanks to 66 Pakistani tanks in the biggest battle since WWII to that point (Battle of Phillora). Other battles went as poorly for Pakistan.
What’s trending?
#TheView is Donny Jr getting dressed down for releasing the WB’s name…he said he was a private citizen…didn’t go over well.
re: #278 John Hughes
Oh that’s a fucking good idea, launch terrorist attacks on a nuclear armed state.
How many Russian people are you prepared to kill by “fucking with Russia’s electrical grid”? How many Americans are you prepared to lose in the retaliation?
It’s odd how they’re not afraid of hacking our systems.
Time to call it a night. Have a good one, Lizards.
re: #280 William Lewis
Nope, that is the original, a very weird turret design that they hoped would provide better protection but simply left much less room for the crew in the turret. When I was little I thought it looked cool. Once I became a tanker in the Army, I learned how the M48 & M60 turrets were far superior that design.
But yeah, bow mg, 90mm main gun, rubber American tracks are all tells.
Good mechanically, decent armament and fire control but the Pakistani crew training was poor and the Indian crews of their T-55s were far better. If the crews were similar, they’d have done well enough but in the real world in 1965 the Indians lost 6 tanks to 66 Pakistani tanks in the biggest battle since WWII to that point (Battle of Phillora). Other battles went as poorly for Pakistan.
Armor was simply not able to handle HEAT and APDS rounds either.
re: #274 Joe Bacon 🌹
OK, yesterday was the grand opening of a 7-11 next to the Normandie Metro Station in Los Angeles.
And today the County Health Department shut it down for vermin infestation…
too many MAGAs?
Bruh, come back when you have an actual medical license. You’re about as legitimate a doctor as Dr. Pepper. https://t.co/hzsz1C9KvH
— NORML (@NORML) November 7, 2019
re: #282 Scottish Dragon
Thanks for that shot! I see it was captured in 1965 like I figured.
https://t.co/waqDRMtJgM pic.twitter.com/xsbUTWFAqA
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) November 7, 2019
re: #279 Hecuba’s daughter
That’s true for his entire domestic policy. But his foreign policy? That certainly appears to have emerged from nowhere. Except for Rand Paul and Dana Rohrabacher, where are there antecedents to Trump’s Russia love among Republican politicians in Washington?
Pence was praising Putin over Obama. They never made it an outright policy but there was plenty of Putin love in the GOP before Trump.
First snowflakes of winter coming down here in NW PA. They’re trying to hide among the sprinkling rain, but I see ‘em.
I wonder if the Trump org is going to ever actually cough up that $2 million?
re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg
I wonder if the Trump org is going to ever actually cough up that $2 million?
BREAKING: Federal judge orders Trump Foundation to pay $2 million settlement after admitting to illegally using the Trump Foundation to help him intervene in the 2016 presidential election & further his political interests. Background on
the case: https://t.co/e5JNMEvSNF pic.twitter.com/b7EUq6X6Nx— Anna Massoglia (@annalecta) November 7, 2019
OMG it’s an entire catalog of suckitude.
The toy AFV’s are something to see….
The 1981 Soviet Christmas catalogue
I like the toy SAM: perfect for my toy May Day Parade… pic.twitter.com/qBgBAQsUt4— Pulp Librarian (@PulpLibrarian) November 7, 2019
re: #286 Scottish Dragon
Armor was simply not able to handle HEAT and APDS rounds either.
No tank’s armor in that generation could. If you were seen you were hit; if you were hit you were dead.
The American’s actually originally planned on composite armor for the M-60 similar to that of the T-64 to help against the problem but decided it would cost too much We concentrated on developing APFSDS ammo, computerized fire control and laser range finders to increase our first round hits a much longer ranges while the design process for the MBT70 was started. Congress finally canceled that monstrosity at about the same time the US learned about the armor discoveries at the British tank research center on Chobham Common, Surrey that would lead directly to the M-1 series.
re: #277 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
BREAKING: A judge in New York orders President Donald Trump to pay $2 million for misusing his charitable foundation.
— The Associated Press (@AP) November 7, 2019
im assuming that $2M fine has to come from him personally
the last NYS Charities filing - for the year 2017 had total assets (mostly cash and equiv) at $1.7M which also has to be liquidated
also note no charitable distributions were made that year
so he cant look to the charity to redirect the $1.7m and he has to come up with $2m more
winning!
re: #296 Scottish Dragon
OMG it’s an entire catalog of suckitude.
The toy AFV’s are something to see….
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I dunno, I think that record player looks kind of cool in a retro sort of way.
Perfect for making your bedroom off limits to the rest of your family for the next 30,000 years….
— Deirdre🇺🇸🏴 (@celtichumanscum) November 7, 2019
re: #298 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
One of his wealthy buddies will just give him the money in exchange for another tax cut.
re: #298 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
im assuming that $2M fine has to come from him personally
the last NYS Charities filing - for the year 2017 had total assets (mostly cash and equiv) at $1.7M which also has to be liquidated
also note no charitable distributions were made that year
so he cant look to the charity to redirect the $1.7m and he has to come up with $2m morewinning!
I think it comes from the Foundation, which is also to be dissolved.
re: #300 Eclectic Cyborg
I dunno, I think that record player looks kind of cool in a retro sort of way.
It’s funky. It’s chunky. It’s built like a Russian tank.
re: #298 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
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im assuming that $2M fine has to come from him personally
the last NYS Charities filing - for the year 2017 had total assets (mostly cash and equiv) at $1.7M which also has to be liquidated
also note no charitable distributions were made that year
so he cant look to the charity to redirect the $1.7m and he has to come up with $2m morewinning!
AIDE: Mr. President, Donald Trump is on the line.
PUTIN: What does he want now?
AIDE: He needs money again.
PUTIN: Ugh! Of course he does. How much this time?
AIDE: $2 million American dollars.
PUTIN: Arrange it, but I’m telling you I’m going to make that fat bastard work really hard for this.
re: #292 HappyWarrior
Pence was praising Putin over Obama. They never made it an outright policy but there was plenty of Putin love in the GOP before Trump.
Did Pence ever say that prior to his selection as Trump’s running mate or was that only his loyal support to the candidate?
I know, a Senator/ Secretary of State with a 80+ approval rating. Someone who did her job in government for years and is a Yale scholar whose husband ran the strongest economy in 100 years.
Of course you had to vote for the illiterate, porn star raw dogging narcissist. I get it https://t.co/GiAg8wjHBc— Christopher Titus (@TitusNation) November 7, 2019
re: #284 Belafon
It’s odd how they’re not afraid of hacking our systems.
You do understand the difference between paying off a few corrupt pols and hacking the electrical grid don’t you?
People die in unexpected power cuts.
One of the more disturbing (if unsurprising) findings from our poll:
Republicans who get most of their news from Fox are 30 points (!) more likely to believe the allegations against Trump are false than Republicans who get their news elsewhere. https://t.co/4hyEUbne0C— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) November 7, 2019
re: #307 Hecuba’s daughter
Did Pence ever say that prior to his selection as Trump’s running mate or was that only his loyal support to the candidate?
Prior I think. Trust me, there were plenty of elected Republicans including Palin who were gushing about tough Putin.
re: #310 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Propaganda works.
re: #304 Belafon
I think it comes from the Foundation, which is also to be dissolved.
i originally read it differently
now i think you are right
re: #308 Dread Pirate
I had this argument over at Daily Kos. I am a straight, upper class, white male. Everything that the GOP does helps me in the short term. But I vote Democratic, even though they might raise my taxes, because I know that I have to choose between one of the two parties most likely to win office if I want to see change. I don’t need the perfect candidate to know I should get out and vote.
Dear @realDonaldTrump: Can you please read the Constitution or get briefed on it? If the House impeaches (indicts), the trial is in the Senate. At that point due process attaches and your lawyers can question witnesses. #ThursdayMorning Thoughts https://t.co/pTM6uJ0UF6
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) November 7, 2019
“…Attorneys for Trump argued that the money was always used for charitable purposes within the law, such as in 2014 when Trump bid $10,000 of foundation money on a portrait of himself at a charity auction benefiting the Unicorn Foundation. Trump Organization attorney, Alan Futerfas told the court Trump only donated to start the bidding, but when no one else would bid, the Donald J. Trump Foundation was stuck with the painting.”
When has a narcissist ever misread the desirability of their own image.
Trump’s very smart.
What kind of an idiot would pay $10,000 of their own money for a portrait of Donald Trump?
re: #298 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
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im assuming that $2M fine has to come from him personally
the last NYS Charities filing - for the year 2017 had total assets (mostly cash and equiv) at $1.7M which also has to be liquidated
also note no charitable distributions were made that year
so he cant look to the charity to redirect the $1.7m and he has to come up with $2m morewinning!
re: #304 Belafon
I think it comes from the Foundation, which is also to be dissolved.
My understanding is that the $1.7M is all that remained in the Trump Foundation coffers when NY froze the accounts. the $2M likely coming from all ‘Individual Respondents’ of the the filing. Trump, Jr, Erik & Ivanka. But It might all be on Trump as the ‘Stipulating Respondent’
You can pay, right?? I mean, you do have the fund on hands to take care of this little bit of corruption don’t you??
— 🦈And the Wind Cries “#LockHimUp”🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) November 7, 2019
re: #292 HappyWarrior
Pence was praising Putin over Obama. They never made it an outright policy but there was plenty of Putin love in the GOP before Trump.
That’s the GOP that loves them some America more than us hippies.
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re: #311 HappyWarrior
Prior I think. Trust me, there were plenty of elected Republicans including Palin who were gushing about tough Putin.
You are right. I found this article on pre-Trump conservative admiration for Putin.
The last line is chilling: “Oh, how happy they would be if they could find their own Vladimir Putin to run for president in 2016.”
re: #314 Belafon
I had this argument over at Daily Kos. I am a straight, upper class, white male. Everything that the GOP does helps me in the short term. But I vote Democratic, even though they might raise my taxes, because I know that I have to choose between one of the two parties most likely to win office if I want to see change. I don’t need the perfect candidate to know I should get out and vote.
we are similar demographically
i vote Democratic because i share the town, county, state, country and planet with other people
(we may be saying the same thing differently)
Agency officials who were tasked with actual storm response had to turn off their cell phones because they were getting peppered so frequently with questions about Trump’s tweets, his sharpie-map and the NOAA unsigned statement. https://t.co/NPJEN1FE2k
— Sam Stein (@samstein) November 7, 2019
re: #296 Scottish Dragon
OMG it’s an entire catalog of suckitude.
The toy AFV’s are something to see….
The 1981 Soviet Christmas catalogue
I like the toy SAM: perfect for my toy May Day Parade…
I recall reading the old Pravda issues back then, at the start of each year they would proudly publish production figures, everything was on the increase.
One thing that struck us: they listed production of electronics in tons.
The nonpartisan Government Accountability Office is reviewing whether the Trump administration violated law by not notifying Congress about a hold on funding for Ukraine, @aduehren scoops. https://t.co/0l1xE32NzQ
— Rebecca Ballhaus (@rebeccaballhaus) November 7, 2019
re: #321 Hecuba’s daughter
You are right. I found this article on pre-Trump conservative admiration for Putin.
The last line is chilling: “Oh, how happy they would be if they could find their own Vladimir Putin to run for president in 2016.”
He looked good bare-chested on horseback.
re: #241 Feline Fearless Leader
Probably McConnell and then confirmed by Graham.
Cornyn & Graham would be my guesses.
Beijing billed President Donald Trump’s 2017 trip as a “state visit-plus” — rolling out the red carpet for an unprecedented private dinner in the Forbidden City, marching a military parade through Tiananmen Square, and hosting a signing ceremony in the colossal Great Hall of the People to unveil business deals totaling more than $250 billion.
….Eighteen months after the deal was announced with much fanfare, China Energy Investment Corp. has spent no money in West Virginia’s energy projects, Justice tells CNBC. Thrasher - one of three signatories to the deal - points to one reason: “It’s not an enforceable document where we can make them spend their money.”
never believe anything they say (they = trump et al)
never believe anything the claim they have done, agreed to, signed, sealed, or dealed
who’s paying for that wall, and where the hell is it?
I was listening to @SeanHannity’s radio show from Wednesday & came across this quote of him describing journalists. Obviously nothing new, but I think it’s often forgotten the extent to which pro-Trump media personalities like him are characterizing the press for their listeners. pic.twitter.com/1RpH3oS7XG
— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) November 7, 2019
Hannity is practically begging for some stochastic terrorism.
Also, lol at Hannity calling himself a Walmart shopper.
In different times, this would be a huge story and a major scandal unto itself.
Compared to the rest of @realDonaldTrump’s misconduct these days, though, this barely registers.
A sobering reflection on where we are… https://t.co/pTK5GBfJDd— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) November 7, 2019
re: #329 jaunte
I was listening to Sean Hannity’s radio show from Wednesday & came across this quote of him describing journalists.
What is about his particular journalism that exempts him from being called a journalist?
Charity fraud is tax fraud: taxing a tax deduction for activity that is not tax deductible.@propublica
here suggests that Trump committed fraud in his real estate taxes https://t.co/7OUTXG08Er
NYT alleged estate tax fraud https://t.co/SvznhC8Ylg
Raises more ? over tax returns— David Frum (@davidfrum) November 7, 2019
The 7-foot statue, partially visible from the street, will be formally inaugurated by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Nov. 8, a day before the 30th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall. https://t.co/pVE32Qduln
— Bojan Pancevski (@bopanc) November 6, 2019
“We met with resistance, and we were told it would be near impossible to make such a statue in Berlin. We had to place it on American soil,” @JHeubusch said of the embassy site, “but at least that soil is going to reside in the city of Berlin.” @wsj https://t.co/Y9THbeeHQ5
— Bojan Pancevski (@bopanc) November 6, 2019
re: #321 Hecuba’s daughter
You are right. I found this article on pre-Trump conservative admiration for Putin.
The last line is chilling: “Oh, how happy they would be if they could find their own Vladimir Putin to run for president in 2016.”
Trump really isn’t their Putin though to be honest. Putin was and is the consumate Russian government insider who made a seamless transition from the Soviet time to the Russian federation. But yep a lot of them were gushing over how awesome Putin was for how “tough” he was while at the same time calling Obama dictatorial.
this makes eating pizza with a fork look totally normal https://t.co/9rLUnOSAnd
— Jordan Fabian (@Jordanfabian) November 7, 2019
if democrats want to talk about a multimillionaire whose taxes they will raise to provide health care and education while also exciting the base, might i present: sean hannity?
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) November 7, 2019
re: #334 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
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And this is but one reason why NYS has a valid need and right to see his tax returns
re: #341 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
And this is but one reason why NYS has a valid need and right to see his tax returns
What are the odds on Trump owing a shitload of back taxes?
“Turkey’s military operation in northern Syria, spearheaded by armed Islamist groups on its payroll, represents an intentioned-laced effort at ethnic cleansing,” Mr. Roebuck wrote, calling the abuses “what can only be described as war crimes and ethnic cleansing.” https://t.co/4pLnDyUUXI
— Olivia Gazis (@Olivia_Gazis) November 7, 2019
re: #342 Eclectic Cyborg
What are the odds on Trump owing a shitload of back taxes?
It’s estimated at $1B. There was a story about it the other day.
re: #342 Eclectic Cyborg
What are the odds on Trump owing a shitload of back taxes?
Fair, not impossible
I think it’s other things though
Actually lower or no income..he doesn’t earn a lot
Abuse of the charitable deduction ie to the trump foundation
Big interest expense, which could maybe expose the source of the loans
re: #317 jaunte
Trump’s very smart.
What kind of an idiot would pay $10,000 of their own money for a portrait of Donald Trump?
Diamond and Silk would fork over a year’s worth of Wingnut Welfare Money for it.
Sealion! pic.twitter.com/IMjDZC1AOf
— Deirdre🇺🇸🏴 (@celtichumanscum) November 7, 2019
re: #344 Belafon
It’s estimated at $1B. There was a story about it the other day.
According to an older tax return, he had a $1 billion NOL, which can be spread out across 20 years. That can reduce his tax burden in a year to nothing, because the NOL can be a dollar for dollar offset for any income for the year.
Thing is that’s all legit. It’s also an absolutely staggering loss for an individual taxpayer. You really have to work to have a billion dollar NOL. He had the largest.
The result of that NOL loss and the carryover can mean that Trump hasn’t paid federal income taxes for the past bunch of years - and that would undermine his business prowess, and it would also show that he’s worth far less than he continually claims.
re: #331 jaunte
Also, lol at Hannity calling himself a Walmart shopper.
He probably is smelly, though.
re: #349 lawhawk
According to an older tax return, he had a $1 billion NOL, which can be spread out across 20 years. That can reduce his tax burden in a year to nothing, because the NOL can be a dollar for dollar offset for any income for the year.
Thing is that’s all legit. It’s also an absolutely staggering loss for an individual taxpayer. You really have to work to have a billion dollar NOL. He had the largest.
The result of that NOL loss and the carryover can mean that Trump hasn’t paid federal income taxes for the past bunch of years - and that would undermine his business prowess, and it would also show that he’s worth far less than he continually claims.
Also means he’s one of those unAmerican deadbeats that conservatives love to hate.
No taxes? He probably shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
re: #335 Dread Pirate
Wouldn’t the Kriegsgräberstätte Bitburg-Kolmeshöhe be a more appropriate location?
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