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1 TheMatrix31  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:26:05pm

Happiness is January 20th, 2013.

2 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:26:26pm

Blessed are the Forgetful, for they get the better even of their blunders.

3 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:26:39pm

No fruit cup for the TelePrompter

4 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:26:41pm

"Hell...is other people" Jean Paul Sartre.

5 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:27:27pm

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind......

6 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:27:50pm

Hey look- you can see all the other threads from here....

7 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:29:53pm

Any other lizards getting the Amazon sidebar ad that's all 0bama books and DVDs?

8 gmsc  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:31:01pm

Is Obama skidding or crashing?
By Penn Jillette

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Penn Jillette: If you're on ice, turning into a skid can help avoid a crash
Jillette says such counterintuitive actions sometimes work
Jillette: Other times, we're better off following our intuition
He asks whether we can get out of a debt-driven crisis by taking on lots more debt

President Obama is so damn smart. He just drips smart. He clearly understands stuff that we could never understand. He's trustworthy. If Obama were teaching fire-eating, we would all learn fast. If he told you that the burns would be minor and the fire would go out when you closed your mouth, you'd believe him. If I weren't twice his weight, I'd fall back with my eyes closed into his caring arms in one of those cheesy '70s church trust exercises. He could talk me into anything.

Obama tells us that we can spend our way out of debt. He tells us that even though the government had control over the banks and did nothing to stop the bad that's going on, if we give them more control over more other bank-like things, then they can make sure bad stuff doesn't happen ever again. He says we can get out of all those big wars President Bush caused by sending more troops into Afghanistan. And I don't know. I really don't know.

I trusted my Dad that turning into a skid would work. I trusted my carny mentor, Doc Swan, that closing my mouth around a burning torch would put it out. They were right. Maybe the United States borrowing more money than I could imagine in a billion years with a billion computers and a billion monkeys typing on them, will get us out of financial trouble. I really don't know. It's certainly true that many counterintuitive things are true, and when you have the guts to do something counterintuitive that works, it's really cool. It's a superpower under our yellow sun.

Read the whole thing.

(h/t Instapundit)

9 Buster Bunny  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:31:09pm

Anyone who mentions the word vaccine on this thread will be savaged by a mysteriously angry bunny.

You have been warned. GRR

10 gmsc  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:31:19pm

re: #7 Fenway_Nation

Any other lizards getting the Amazon sidebar ad that's all 0bama books and DVDs?

Yep.

11 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:32:47pm

re: #7 Fenway_Nation

Its a tad ironic, but then again I've seen ads for a muslim dating service on the sidebars of prominent anti-jihad sites. One does what one has to do.

12 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:33:24pm

re: #9 Buster Bunny

Anyone who mentions the word vaccine on this thread will be savaged by a mysteriously angry bunny.

You have been warned. GRR

Knock,knock. Who's there? Ether Ether who? Ether bunny.
Knock, knock. Who's there? Stella Stella who? Stella nother ether bunny.
Knock, knock. Who's there? Justin Justin who? Justin other Ether Bunny.
Knock, knock. Who's there? Samoa Samoa who? Samoa Ether Bunnies.
Knock, knock. Who's there? Beryl Beryl who? Beryl of ether bunnies.
Knock, knock. Who's there? Dewey Dewey who? Dewey have to listen to any more ether bunny jokes?
Knock, knock. Who's there? Consumption. Consumption who? Consumption be done about all these ether bunnies?

13 gmsc  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:33:38pm

re: #11 MrPaulRevere

Its a tad ironic, but then again I've seen ads for a muslim dating service on the sidebars of prominent anti-jihad sites. One does what one has to do.

Countering muslim hate with muslim love perhaps?

14 Buster Bunny  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:33:42pm

re: #11 MrPaulRevere

Its a tad ironic, but then again I've seen ads for a muslim dating service on the sidebars of prominent anti-jihad sites. One does what one has to do.

Everyone knows with muslim girls you get to fit more in the black sack to take home.

15 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:34:51pm

re: #13 gmsc

There ya go, think positive.

16 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:35:01pm

re: #11 MrPaulRevere

The ads are computer-matched based on key words on the site. Oops! Yes, it is quite ironic.

17 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:35:14pm

re: #10 gmsc

re: #11 MrPaulRevere


Of course, none of the offerings are full price. Compare that with the complete rack of DVDs of Hussein Dolt's innauguration for a mere $19.99 in Febuary.

18 Macker  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:35:43pm

re: #8 gmsc

Does this mean we could all be sideswiped?

19 Buster Bunny  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:35:45pm

re: #13 gmsc

Countering muslim hate with muslim love perhaps?

Yes .. but do the two forces cancel each other out? Or do they swap places? Do you end up with a timid non religious husband and a passionately homicidal religious nut wife?

20 Macker  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:35:57pm

re: #16 Taqiyyotomist

Email back at ya!

21 gmsc  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:36:08pm

re: #12 Dustyvet

Knock,knock. Who's there? Ether Ether who? Ether bunny.
Knock, knock. Who's there? Stella Stella who? Stella nother ether bunny.
Knock, knock. Who's there? Justin Justin who? Justin other Ether Bunny.
Knock, knock. Who's there? Samoa Samoa who? Samoa Ether Bunnies.
Knock, knock. Who's there? Beryl Beryl who? Beryl of ether bunnies.
Knock, knock. Who's there? Dewey Dewey who? Dewey have to listen to any more ether bunny jokes?
Knock, knock. Who's there? Consumption. Consumption who? Consumption be done about all these ether bunnies?

22 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:37:31pm
23 gmsc  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:38:04pm

re: #18 Macker

Does this mean we could all be sideswiped?

It means we're the wall.

24 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:38:15pm

re: #16 Taqiyyotomist

I was sure it was something along those lines, thanks for clarifying. Speaking strictly in terms of a cost benefit analysis, they are wasting their ad money however.

25 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:39:04pm

Heavenly Punishment

Billy Graham goes to heaven and is approached by St. Peter. They greet each other.

Billy recognizes a man with 2 somewhat ... er ... unattractive lizards on his neck.

He asks "Why does the Pope have 2 lizards around his neck?"

To which St. Peter replies "Well, the Pope had some unresolved sins, and he must wear the lizards until he gives up them up.

He nods, and then notices Howard Stern with 10 lizards around his neck and states "Ah, I get it. He had even more unresolved sins, and he must wear them for longer."

"Correct," replies St. Peter.

Finally he sees Bill Clinton, with only one lizard on his neck. Surprised to see the low number of lizards on Bill Clinton's neck he asks St. Peter about this.

St. Peter replies,"Well, we needed to punish this particular lizard."

26 gmsc  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:40:03pm

re: #19 Buster Bunny

Yes .. but do the two forces cancel each other out? Or do they swap places? Do you end up with a timid non religious husband and a passionately homicidal religious nut wife?

Well, if encouraging more love doesn't work, perhaps we could try and vacci . . . er, uh . . . send them on on a vacation!

/Yeah! That's what I was going to say!

27 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:40:28pm

re: #4 MrPaulRevere

"Hell...is other people" Jean Paul Sartre.

This makes me sad. It's true and yet also false, for while other people can be hell, some people are the heights of Heaven. Because where there is Love, hell seems quite remote.

28 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:41:58pm

re: #20 Macker

Gotcha, and likewise!

29 gmsc  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:43:30pm

re: #27 Sharmuta

This makes me sad. It's true and yet also false, for while other people can be hell, some people are the heights of Heaven. Because where there is Love, hell seems quite remote.

I think it largely depends on whether one in an introvert or an extrovert.

Here's a good definition, from Caring for Your Introvert:

Introverts are not necessarily shy. Shy people are anxious or frightened or self-excoriating in social settings; introverts generally are not. Introverts are also not misanthropic, though some of us do go along with Sartre as far as to say "Hell is other people at breakfast." Rather, introverts are people who find other people tiring.

Extroverts are energized by people, and wilt or fade when alone. They often seem bored by themselves, in both senses of the expression. Leave an extrovert alone for two minutes and he will reach for his cell phone. In contrast, after an hour or two of being socially "on," we introverts need to turn off and recharge. My own formula is roughly two hours alone for every hour of socializing. This isn't antisocial. It isn't a sign of depression. It does not call for medication. For introverts, to be alone with our thoughts is as restorative as sleeping, as nourishing as eating. Our motto: "I'm okay, you're okay-in small doses."

30 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:43:35pm

re: #27 Sharmuta

Its a controversial statement to be sure, perhaps he was having a bad day. But the man did have a way with words.

31 Taqiyyotomist  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:44:11pm

re: #27 Sharmuta

Sartre was from Europe? Well, then. There ya go!
/white smoke

32 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:45:17pm

re: #9 Buster Bunny

Anyone who mentions the word vaccine on this thread will be savaged by a mysteriously angry bunny.

You have been warned. GRR

Can't. Freakin'. Wait.

VACCINE!

/wait, what kind of bunny?

33 Buster Bunny  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:46:51pm

re: #32 Slumbering Behemoth

Can't. Freakin'. Wait.

VACCINE!

/wait, what kind of bunny?

Thats terrible ! Bunny meets bunny and all of a sudden .. he thinks of birds and bees !

34 Macker  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:47:06pm

re: #32 Slumbering Behemoth

Can't. Freakin'. Wait.

VACCINE!

/wait, what kind of bunny?

Probably this bunny:

35 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:47:41pm

Happiness is.........
a warm puppy...?......
a warm gun....?......
loose shoes and a warm bathroom......?........

no........it's an option.

36 gmsc  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:49:25pm

re: #35 IslandLibertarian

Happiness is.........
a warm puppy...?......
a warm gun....?......
loose shoes and a warm bathroom......?........

no........it's an option.

...it's own reward?

37 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:50:30pm

re: #36 gmsc

I thought that was virtue. Which I think is a highly overrated reward.

38 Sharmuta  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:50:53pm

Happiness is Fruitcup.

39 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:52:14pm

re: #38 Sharmuta

Warm?

40 Dustyvet  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:52:17pm

Two Rabbits are running from a group of foxes. They hide in a pile of hay, one rabbit says to the other one "ok we can run for it or we can stay here and out number them. And the other rabbit says, "were going to run for it you idiot I'm your brother.

41 itellu3times  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:52:36pm
42 gmsc  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:53:36pm

re: #37 IslandLibertarian

I thought that was virtue. Which I think is a highly overrated reward.

I've heard it as both "Virtue" and "happiness".

43 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:54:06pm

The difference between American and French bunnies?
American bunnies go hippitty-hop.
French bunnies go lick-it-de-split.

44 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:54:27pm

"The secret to happiness is to make others believe they have caused it."

Or something like that. Not mine, but don't remember who said it.

45 gmsc  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:55:19pm

A good pun is its own reword.

46 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:56:47pm

re: #45 gmsc

Bravo!

47 kelidor  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:56:54pm

THIS NEEDS OUR SUPPORT: Barclays Bank sponsored the Dubai Tennis tournament which banned Israeli tennis star Shahar Pe'er. The Wall Street Journal and the Tennis TV channel pulled their sponsorships immeditately. Barclays refused. There is a petition that is being delivered to the Barclays AGM in London on the 23rd April.

Go to this site and sign on in support of Israel.

[Link: www.petitiononline.com...]

AND PASS IT ALONG TO YOU LISTS

48 astronmr20  Wed, Apr 1, 2009 11:58:56pm

re: #1 TheMatrix31

Happiness is January 20th, 2013.

President-elect Biden?


I kid! I kid!

49 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:00:00am

Today in History, April 2nd:

50 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:01:34am

re: #9 Buster Bunny

Anyone who mentions the word vaccine on this thread will be savaged by a mysteriously angry bunny.

You have been warned. GRR

you just had to inject that here, didn't you?

/white smoke

51 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:01:38am

re: #46 IslandLibertarian

Bravo!

*TAKES BOW*

52 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:02:31am

re: #50 redc1c4

Seems like nobody's immune...

53 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:02:50am

Goodnight Lizards!

54 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:03:32am

re: #53 Taqiyyotomist

Goodnight Lizards!

Good night, Takki . . . , er, Toqqi, er . . . T!

55 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:05:50am

re: #52 Fenway_Nation

Seems like nobody's immune...

well, you take your best shot and see what happens....

56 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:06:30am

re: #55 redc1c4

Why do you have to keep needling me?

57 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:06:37am

re: #55 redc1c4

well, you take your best shot and see what happens....

speaking of which, i shoulod go check on the local raton population hapenings.....

58 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:07:00am

re: #56 Fenway_Nation

Why do you have to keep needling me?

He's such a prick.

59 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:07:02am

re: #56 Fenway_Nation

Why do you have to keep needling me?

i'm feeling parenteral.

60 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:07:21am

re: #55 redc1c4

well, you take your best shot and see what happens....

61 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:07:30am

re: #58 Sharmuta

He's such a prick.

but as least i'm not a dictator.

62 Buster Bunny  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:10:06am

re: #61 redc1c4

but as least i'm not a dictator.

If you'd been a dictatorial prick .. heck .. you could have been in the Whitehouse .. its the only qualification you'd have needed.

63 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:10:34am

re: #62 Buster Bunny

If you'd been a dictatorial prick .. heck .. you could have been in the Whitehouse .. its the only qualification you'd have needed.

If he'd been pricktatorial?

64 Buster Bunny  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:11:55am

re: #63 gmsc

If he'd been pricktatorial?

Just a good community organiser. With no need for finance knowledge or the intricasies of social relationships. Just a load of hate, scaremongering and bravado. And heck .. you could save the world !

65 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:13:58am

Capitalistic Results By Socialist Means?

"Workers of the world, unite!" used to be a rallying cry for employees to have safer and cleaner working conditions. Today, the updated version of this sentiment is for workers to have ever-expanding benefits and income even as the company for which they work falls into bankruptcy. Unions and workers want the benefits of capitalism, the only social system that raises the standard of living for everyone, along with the impossible guarantees of childhood fantasy.

Those who place hope in this are destined to be disappointed in their leaders. Our current leaders will deliver on their promises to further nationalize the private economy, if not complete the process begun in the years of FDR and LBJ. On the surface, and at first, this will mean workers getting everything they want.

But the well is going to run dry, and soon. When the political leaders are unable to do the impossible, i.e. provide the benefits of capitalism without capitalism itself, workers will be far worse off than they started. They will have lost the illusion of impossible guarantees--an illusion all along--but, along with it, they will have lost the source of private wealth that writes their paychecks and pays their insurance premiums. Keep in mind that other countries that went Marxist or socialist never had genuine, unhampered capitalism in the first place.

America once roared with free markets and the rising tide that lifted all economic boats. It was the greatest wealth producer in human history, to date. No more, under socialism. Bosses and business owners are certainly capable of being unfair. But who else is to take responsibility for making a profit, profits that must exist for paychecks to exist? A workplace without bosses and with unlimited gratification is pure fantasy. A workplace with no jobs will be reality at its most cruel.

67 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:15:47am

re: #66 TheMatrix31

Okay, just a little pin-prick. There'll be no more "ahhhhhhhhhhhh", but you may feel a little sick....

tell that to the furry little bastard i just gave a "pin-prick" to.....

68 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:17:26am

re: #63 gmsc

Good one. I love neologisms. Noun: Prictator; verb Prictate.

69 TheMatrix31  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:17:31am

re: #67 redc1c4

tell that to the furry little bastard i just gave a "pin-prick" to.....

LOL.

70 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:17:55am

re: #67 redc1c4

tell that to the furry little bastard i just gave a "pin-prick" to.....

Are you calling him a hypdemic nerdle?

71 TheMatrix31  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:19:57am

re: #70 gmsc

Are you calling him a hypdemic nerdle?

When you're feelin' low, hypodermic's where you go....

72 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:21:06am

re: #70 gmsc

Are you calling him a hypdemic nerdle?

no: s/he when from being a Norwegian Rat to a Muerto Rat at about 1000 fps.

/circle of life......... %-)

73 freetoken  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:21:11am

re: #8 gmsc

So the question is... would you support moves to replace the $ as the reserve currency and (by some means) institute an internationally agreed reserve currency that would legally bind the participants (such as the US)?

74 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:22:29am

re: #68 BatGuano

Good one. I love neologisms. Noun: Prictator; verb Prictate.

Same here. Ever read Roald Dahl's BFG? It's full of them. As is Lewis Carroll's Jabberwocky:

75 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:25:59am

re: #73 freetoken

So the question is... would you support moves to replace the $ as the reserve currency and (by some means) institute an internationally agreed reserve currency that would legally bind the participants (such as the US)?

i don't see an upside there for us, but i'm not an expert...... %-)

76 Salem  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:27:04am

re: #7 Fenway_Nation

Any other lizards getting the Amazon sidebar ad that's all 0bama books and DVDs?

Mine has the DVD of The Brain from Planet Arous on it, too. "Coincidence? Read the book!" (obscure reference)

77 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:27:43am

re: #73 freetoken

So the question is... would you support moves to replace the $ as the reserve currency and (by some means) institute an internationally agreed reserve currency that would legally bind the participants (such as the US)?

How about internationally agreeing on a gold-backed currency?

78 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:28:40am

Twice the Love (from Big Fish):

79 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:28:40am

How about we keep our American dollars and the rest or the world can ditch socialism?

80 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:30:00am

re: #77 gmsc

How about internationally agreeing on a gold-backed currency?

and you're going to get all that gold where?

81 astronmr20  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:30:43am

re: #78 gmsc

Incredible film.

82 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:31:28am

The nightly Fenway market watch....owing to my preoccupation with shiny things, lets start with precious metals:

Gold- $922.3 an ounce (down .005%)
Silver- $12.98 an ounce (down .003%)
Platinum- $1137 an ounce (up .0017%)
Palladium- $218 an ounce (down .004%)
Rhodium- $1010 an ounce (down .015%)

83 Macker  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:32:14am

re: #80 redc1c4

and you're going to get all that gold where?

He who has the Gold, makes the rules.

84 Neutral President  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:32:41am

re: #80 redc1c4

and you're going to get all that gold where?

The fantasy land that Ron Paul and Peter Schiff live in where apparently theres enough gold for a post 19th century population to actually experience economic growth without an out of control deflationary spiral.

85 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:32:51am

re: #81 astronmr20

Incredible film.

I just watched it again the other day, for the first time in a long while. I'd forgotten how good it was!

86 freetoken  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:33:24am

re: #75 redc1c4

i don't see an upside there for us, but i'm not an expert...... %-)

Charles has made it clear he does not want LGF to become a portal for doomer porn... which is good. However, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to think about the future without seeing some very real difficulties emerging (for everyone.)

The current G20 meeting is just one example of where image will likely take precedence over substance, and not see some difficult choices being made (thus my question on reserve currencies.)

As an American I know my life depends upon our trade with many other nations, and we do this favorably (for us) by being the dominant military and economic nation on Earth. That however is fading, especially compared to the days when I was a child (when no one outside the Soviet Bloc would even question the role of the $.)

Times are a changing... and I'm trying to figure out how I should change (I have some large decisions coming.)

87 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:33:43am

re: #74 gmsc

That's funny. I haven't seen that but I have read Jabberwocky many times. I'll look into Roald Dahl's BFG

88 astronmr20  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:34:27am

re: #85 gmsc

As many of us, I grew up as a boy hearing raucous stories of valor and adventure of the old heroes in my family. One of VERY few films that brings tears to my eyes.

89 Buster Bunny  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:34:32am

re: #86 freetoken

Charles has made it clear he does not want LGF to become a portal for doomer porn... which is good. However, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to think about the future without seeing some very real difficulties emerging (for everyone.)


Does doomer porn have hot chicks that do everything while worrying about the fate of the world?

90 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:34:59am

re: #82 Fenway_Nation

The nightly Fenway market watch....owing to my preoccupation with shiny things, lets start with precious metals:

Gold- $922.3 an ounce (down .005%)
Silver- $12.98 an ounce (down .003%)
Platinum- $1137 an ounce (up .0017%)
Palladium- $218 an ounce (down .004%)
Rhodium- $1010 an ounce (down .015%)

you should include copper, lead and brass in those

91 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:35:52am

re: #83 Macker

He who has the Gold, makes the rules.

That chart only counts the gold owned by the respective countries. Not only is our own gold stored in Fort Knox, many other countries have their gold stored there, as well.

(For that matter, Fort Knox has often held priceless artifacts from other countries, including the Hungarian Crown Jewels!)

92 Macker  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:36:51am

re: #91 gmsc

That chart only counts the gold owned by the respective countries. Not only is our own gold stored in Fort Knox, many other countries have their gold stored there, as well.

(For that matter, Fort Knox has often held priceless artifacts from other countries, including the Hungarian Crown Jewels!)

Is there a better indicator?

93 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:37:35am

re: #82 Fenway_Nation

I have a "box of shiny things" under my bed. I don't have any of those though. It's mostly tin foil. I make hats. sad, really.

94 blackpajamas  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:37:35am

//channel on

The Un-fair Non-Maiden Voyage of the U.S.S. Schadenfreud,
(Savage Capital Ship-of-the-Product-Line)

It is the function of the Navy to carry the war to the enemy so that it will not be fought on U.S. soil. -- Admiral Chester Nimitz

It is the function of the product to help pound the enemy so far into the earth, their blood springs from U.S. wells. -- Blackpajamas

A special thanks to the blackpajamas team, and the companion cavalry, crossing the Granicus, conquering presumptive braggart foes, delivering on promised goods, and training deeper sights into competitor's territory, without relent!

To the 500 chiefs and forward deployed consumers of might, our product salutes you and your objectives!

To the opposition:

Do you know against what type of men you'll have to fight? We who dine on sharpened swords, and drink down blazing torches as our win. Then for dessert they bring us broken Cretan darts and splintered pike shafts. Our pillows are our shields and breastplates, and beside our feed lie bows and slings, We crown ourselves with catapult wreaths. --Mnesimachus

You witness but the contrail of the meteor, the burning free wheel of commerce, stoking the light of this century, passing you in nights long ago while you slept, crushing your product lines like Ixion's revolving retribution;

Even here, into the centre of repose, your shady visions come to domineer, insult, and blind, and stifle up my pomp. -- Fall! -- No, by technology's fluid strides!

Over the fiery frontier of our realms we shall advance a terrible right arm shall scare your infant thunderer, rebel mouths, and bid new vision claim thy throne.*

//channel off

95 astronmr20  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:38:08am

re: #91 gmsc

That chart only counts the gold owned by the respective countries. Not only is our own gold stored in Fort Knox, many other countries have their gold stored there, as well.

(For that matter, Fort Knox has often held priceless artifacts from other countries, including the Hungarian Crown Jewels!)

For now. I'd like to see a fekking inventory list. I have come to believe very little from our government. My fiancee and I have converted a sizable amount of our savings to physical gold.

96 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:38:20am

re: #86 freetoken

Would it be "doomer porn" if it's based on facts and reason?

97 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:39:20am

Australia's All Ordinaries- up 2.69%
Shanghai Composite- up .72%
Mumbai Sensex- up 4.41%
Taiwan Weighted- up 3%
New Zealand NZSE50- up .64%
Seoul KOPSI composite- up 3.54%
Johannesburg JSE limited- up 2.84%
Singapore's STI- up 4.73%
Nikkei- up 4.4%
Tel Aviv TA100- up .02%

98 Syrah  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:40:41am

We had snow mixed in our rain today.

Did somebody cancel our summer?

99 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:40:46am

re: #86 freetoken

Charles has made it clear he does not want LGF to become a portal for doomer porn... which is good. However, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to think about the future without seeing some very real difficulties emerging (for everyone.)

The current G20 meeting is just one example of where image will likely take precedence over substance, and not see some difficult choices being made (thus my question on reserve currencies.)

As an American I know my life depends upon our trade with many other nations, and we do this favorably (for us) by being the dominant military and economic nation on Earth. That however is fading, especially compared to the days when I was a child (when no one outside the Soviet Bloc would even question the role of the $.)

Times are a changing... and I'm trying to figure out how I should change (I have some large decisions coming.)

I'm not a doom-and-gloomer myself.

We will need to be prepared for high inflation, and we can see that coming a mile away at this point. We got through it before, and we'll get through it again. It does drive me crazy that we could see it coming before it happened, and nobody with the power to do so did anything to stop it.

BTW, QandO has an excellent post on why you should prepare for inflation.

100 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:41:14am

re: #97 Fenway_Nation

Australia's All Ordinaries- up 2.69%
Shanghai Composite- up .72%
Mumbai Sensex- up 4.41%
Taiwan Weighted- up 3%
New Zealand NZSE50- up .64%
Seoul KOPSI composite- up 3.54%
Johannesburg JSE limited- up 2.84%
Singapore's STI- up 4.73%
Nikkei- up 4.4%
Tel Aviv TA100- up .02%

so they have all drunk from the same cup?

kool-ade!

101 rawmuse  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:41:20am

OK, get your minds off all this nonsense and have a good laugh.

I watched that tonight, and about split my ribcage.

102 Neutral President  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:42:42am

re: #86 freetoken

Charles has made it clear he does not want LGF to become a portal for doomer porn... which is good. However, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to think about the future without seeing some very real difficulties emerging (for everyone.)

There is a difference between being concerned about the future, preparing for contingencies, even the unlikely and being a fear-monger with wild claims that only create panic and don't help the situation.

There will be difficulties I'm sure. I'm developing my own personal plans to try to deal with the possibilities the best I can without going off into batshit-crazyville. What I'm not doing is walking up and down the street with a "The End is Near" sign and a tin-foil hat on screaming to anyone who will listen.

My point is legitimate discussion and concern is warranted and I don't believe that you will get the smackdown from Charles for doing so. Discussing it rationally with facts and reasonable conjecture based on those facts I would think would be encouraged.

103 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:43:00am

Owning gold could stand one in good stead in the event of severe inflation. I think I will be buying some gold coins once I'm off this job.

I also hold shares in a couple of junior gold ventures.

104 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:43:30am

re: #100 redc1c4

so they have all drunk from the same cup?

kool-ade!

I think you can account for those good numbers for nearly the same reason you can credit the good numbers from the NASDAQ and NYSE so far this week.

/Hussein Dolt isn't in any of those countries...

105 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:44:21am

re: #98 Syrah

How are you dong on Conflict? I'm really enjoying it so far.

106 freetoken  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:44:45am

re: #77 gmsc

How about internationally agreeing on a gold-backed currency?

Well, I guess I too am one to wonder how in a world of 7 billion people the limited gold supplies held by governments could be of much use.

Again, if nations did not trade so much then perhaps that wouldn't be such an issue, but here in 2009 international trade is huge, and indeed one of the pillars of US foreign policy has been that the continued expansion of international trade is a keystone to bettering everybody's lives.

On a more personal note... I'm at an age now when I need to decide what to do with a small window of years before I reach my true "golden years". Is a third career worth it (to save a few more dollars in hopes that if say, I reach my 70's, I can be a bit more "financially secure" (whatever that means))?

107 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:46:59am

re: #103 Alberta Oil Peon

Owning gold could stand one in good stead in the event of severe inflation. I think I will be buying some gold coins once I'm off this job.

I also hold shares in a couple of junior gold ventures.


Stay the hell away from Bre-X.

That shit literally scared me off of the Canadian Markets for a decade.

108 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:49:26am

re: #103 Alberta Oil Peon

Owning gold could stand one in good stead in the event of severe inflation. I think I will be buying some gold coins once I'm off this job.

I also hold shares in a couple of junior gold ventures.

as long as no one around you owns guns, including the government, you're okay......

/unless, of course, they are physically violent.

109 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:49:57am

re: #104 Fenway_Nation

I think you can account for those good numbers for nearly the same reason you can credit the good numbers from the NASDAQ and NYSE so far this week.

/Hussein Dolt isn't in any of those countries...

IOW, we still have a long way down to go......

110 astronmr20  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:49:59am

re: #97 Fenway_Nation

Australia's All Ordinaries- up 2.69%
Shanghai Composite- up .72%
Mumbai Sensex- up 4.41%
Taiwan Weighted- up 3%
New Zealand NZSE50- up .64%
Seoul KOPSI composite- up 3.54%
Johannesburg JSE limited- up 2.84%
Singapore's STI- up 4.73%
Nikkei- up 4.4%
Tel Aviv TA100- up .02%

Yes.. the asian markets are taking off like a rocket tonight.

111 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:50:03am

re: #106 freetoken

At my age, "financially secure" means my children are rich and still speaking to me. Otherwise, I am lewd, blued, screwed and tattood.

112 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:51:13am

I was just going to see if Tiger Woods would adopt me. :p

113 astronmr20  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:51:16am

re: #98 Syrah

We had snow mixed in our rain today.

Did somebody cancel our summer?

AlGore did.

114 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:51:31am

re: #111 BatGuano

At my age, "financially secure" means my children are rich and still speaking to me. Otherwise, I am lewd, blued, screwed and tattood. I just wish I'd stayed in a Holiday Inn last night.

FTFY!

115 freetoken  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:52:23am

re: #99 gmsc


We will need to be prepared for high inflation, and we can see that coming a mile away at this point.

Yes, that is what I'm struggling with, the idea that we won't have just the usual amount of inflation (based on the last 30 years), but something much more serious, that essentially would diminish my retirement.

116 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:53:07am

re: #114 redc1c4

Thanks. I needed that. :)

117 Salem  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:53:41am

Eh. When has the world ever not been in crisis? When it comes right down to it, good times or bad-everybody dies. You can either spend your life living or bracing yourself for death.

118 Syrah  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:53:49am

re: #105 Sharmuta

I have hardly started.

There has been a lot of trauma and chaos in my life recently. It has made finding the time to read very difficult.

I am starting what amounts to a new job this week. I am still learning the ropes and feeling more like I am just in the way than value added. Things should settle down for me in the next week or two.

As for what little of the book that I have read, I am very impressed. Its a subject that has always fascinated me. I like delving into what is the genesis of a person's world view and this is the first book that addresses that head on.

How far into it are you?

119 Mithrax  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:55:31am

Mornin Lizards.

The coffee shops were closed to I got me a coke slushie.....

Yup, nice and healthy at 4am :P

120 Buster Bunny  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:56:04am

re: #117 Salem

Eh. When has the world ever not been in crisis? When it comes right down to it, good times or bad-everybody dies. You can either spend your life living or bracing yourself for death.

Eh, I'm a bunny. When i'm not eating everything .. shitting on everything or mating like crazy .. I got other things to worry about.

Predators scare me.

121 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:57:26am

re: #119 Mithrax

Mornin Lizards.

The coffee shops were closed to I got me a coke slushie.....

Yup, nice and healthy at 4am :P

0100 here.... red wine, of course.

/Skoal!

122 Syrah  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:57:44am

re: #113 astronmr20

AlGore did.

The bastard!

I will have to send him my heating bill in protest.

123 Salem  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:58:27am

re: #120 Buster Bunny

Eh, I'm a bunny. When i'm not eating everything .. shitting on everything or mating like crazy .. I got other things to worry about.

Predators scare me.

We kept rabbits when I was a kid. I used to help my dad slaughter them.

124 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 12:58:40am

re: #120 Buster Bunny

Eh, I'm a bunny. When i'm not eating everything .. shitting on everything or mating like crazy .. I got other things to worry about.

Predators scare me.

Sssssssshhhhhhhhh!

Be very, very quiet.

red

125 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:00:51am

re: #118 Syrah

I'm sorry things have been so hectic for you lately, but glad that they're settling down a bit. Hang in there.

As for the book- still in Ch. 2, but I'm intentionally taking it slow. I had a thought about creating a spinoff link for the book where you and I could compare some notes. We could comment for a week back and forth on that spinoff thread until it archives. What do you think about that idea- maybe starting it this weekend?

126 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:00:53am

re: #115 freetoken

Yes, that is what I'm struggling with, the idea that we won't have just the usual amount of inflation (based on the last 30 years), but something much more serious, that essentially would diminish my retirement.

I posted some excellent thoughts from Coyote in my previous money tips post on preparing and dealing with inflation. Here's Part 1 and here's Part 2.

re: #117 Salem

Eh. When has the world ever not been in crisis?

In hindsight!

127 Gus  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:01:10am

Happiness is being able to sleep and not experiencing excruciating tooth pain.

128 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:02:24am

Since we are at least partialy on the subject of retirement and death: Macbeth

She should have died hereafter;
There would have been a time for such a word.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

129 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:02:41am

re: #127 Gus 802

Happiness is being able to sleep and not experiencing excruciating tooth pain.

I was going through exactly that this time last year. After the root canal was over, it felt soooooo good!

130 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:02:47am

re: #107 Fenway_Nation

Stay the hell away from Bre-X.

That shit literally scared me off of the Canadian Markets for a decade.

Believe it or not, in an alternate universe, it might have been me that took the swan dive from the helicopter in Indonesia. Back in the mid-'80s, I was an unemployed geologist in Calgary, doing odd jobs to keep body and soul together. I fixed the engine in a VW Rabbit for Sean Walsh, the son of Bre-X president David Walsh. He mentioned to me that his father was embarking on a big gold venture in Indonesia, and might be needing technical people. He actually drove me to his father's home, but the elder Walsh was off on a trip somewhere, so nothing ever came of it.

FWIW, having talked with people who were well-acquainted with David Walsh, it's my belief that he was not a party to the fraud. I think he honestly believed that he had finally found the Big One. Perhaps the eagerness to believe that kept him from exercising the due diligence he should have done.

One result of the whole fiasco is that the regulatory burden, and the hoops that one must jump through to start a junior mineral exploration company have hugely increased.

131 Syrah  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:03:19am

re: #119 Mithrax

Mornin Lizards.

The coffee shops were closed to I got me a coke slushie.....

Yup, nice and healthy at 4am :P

Life will end up killing you in the end. If you are going to do something unhealthy, do it decadently, or not at all. No half measures in virtue or sin. Full on, or not all.

Coke slushies are good.

132 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:04:06am

re: #128 BatGuano

Since we are at least partialy on the subject of retirement and death: Macbeth

She should have died hereafter;
There would have been a time for such a word.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

I prefer a more optimistic outlook:

133 freetoken  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:04:15am

re: #126 gmsc

Yes, thank you....

Another issue is whether to leave California. Today the sales tax in my area went up to over 9%... Yes, I realize many lizards may say "leave", but California still has much to commend itself, and when most everyone you know lives in a particular region it makes it even more difficult.

134 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:04:28am

re: #108 redc1c4

as long as no one around you owns guns, including the government, you're okay......

/unless, of course, they are physically violent.

They have to know you have gold. People who possess physical gold should be very circumspect.

BTW, our government has introduced legislation to dismantle the federal long-gun registry.

135 Syrah  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:04:58am

re: #125 Sharmuta

I'm sorry things have been so hectic for you lately, but glad that they're settling down a bit. Hang in there.

As for the book- still in Ch. 2, but I'm intentionally taking it slow. I had a thought about creating a spinoff link for the book where you and I could compare some notes. We could comment for a week back and forth on that spinoff thread until it archives. What do you think about that idea- maybe starting it this weekend?

I like it. A spinoff salon.

You set the terms and I will try to follow along.

I work on the weekends. The overnight thread might be the place to do it.

136 Gus  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:05:02am

re: #129 gmsc

I was going through exactly that this time last year. After the root canal was over, it felt soooooo good!

Felt better after mine too. I need more work but couldn't afford it. Now it's on the opposite side of all things and it's driving me nuts -- the whole row. Haven't taken anything for it but I did try some ice.

137 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:06:08am

re: #133 freetoken

Yes, thank you....

Another issue is whether to leave California. Today the sales tax in my area went up to over 9%... Yes, I realize many lizards may say "leave", but California still has much to commend itself, and when most everyone you know lives in a particular region it makes it even more difficult.

9 years ago, when I left California, everyone was asking me, "How can you even think of leaving California?"

Today, the same people asked me, "How did you know to leave California?"

138 freetoken  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:08:05am

re: #132 gmsc

neat video.

139 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:09:03am

Interest rates on US Savings bonds are set to change at the end of the month.

Until April 30, the rate for the zero-coupon Series EE bond is 1.3%
Until April 30, the rate for the Variable-rate Series I bond is 5.64%

140 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:09:15am

re: #137 gmsc

9 years ago, when I left California, everyone was asking me, "How can you even think of leaving California?"

Today, the same people asked me, "How did you know to leave California?"

were you a native?

141 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:09:39am

re: #139 Fenway_Nation

Interest rates on US Savings bonds are set to change at the end of the month.

Until April 30, the rate for the zero-coupon Series EE bond is 1.3%
Until April 30, the rate for the Variable-rate Series I bond is 5.64%

and after that?

142 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:09:47am

re: #138 freetoken

neat video.

Thanks.

The internet, despite all the high-tech trappings, seems to be drawing me towards an interest in classic poetry. I've even saved a few poems on YouTube!

143 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:10:44am

re: #140 redc1c4

were you a native?

Nope – moved there with my family at age 6, left most of my family there at age 32.

144 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:12:27am

re: #135 Syrah

Well- I was thinking since the spinoff is available for comments for 7 days, we could just post interesting points, comment back and forth on them, post other points and so on. Not so much a live back and forth, but rather like a message board. We can stick the spinoff in our favorites to access as we think of other things to comment upon during the week. How about we start Friday night- that gives us both a couple more days to get a little further into the book?

145 Syrah  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:12:37am

re: #133 freetoken

Yes, thank you....

Another issue is whether to leave California. Today the sales tax in my area went up to over 9%... Yes, I realize many lizards may say "leave", but California still has much to commend itself, and when most everyone you know lives in a particular region it makes it even more difficult.

When I left California, I just quit my job, packed up everything I owned, and moved to Seattle. I didn't know a soul here. I didn't have a job or even a place to stay lined up. All that I had was my fill of California and place on a map to head to.

It has worked out very well.

Washington is just as screwed up and crazy as California, but the rain keeps the kookiest of the nuts indoors and out of sight.

There is no frontier left to run to.

We will have to take our stand somewhere. Pick someplace pleasant.

146 Syrah  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:13:35am

re: #144 Sharmuta

Well- I was thinking since the spinoff is available for comments for 7 days, we could just post interesting points, comment back and forth on them, post other points and so on. Not so much a live back and forth, but rather like a message board. We can stick the spinoff in our favorites to access as we think of other things to comment upon during the week. How about we start Friday night- that gives us both a couple more days to get a little further into the book?

Sounds good.

Friday night then.

147 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:15:30am

re: #146 Syrah

Awesome- I'm excited.

148 Syrah  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:15:58am

re: #147 Sharmuta

Awesome- I'm excited.

8-D

149 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:17:16am

re: #141 redc1c4

and after that?

Not sure- but I have my own unscientific lithmus test for this. Sometimes the higher-end CD rates are a good indicator of what the upcoming savings-bond rates are.

In other words- not very good at this time. I purchased a few hundred in Savings bonds about a year ago before the rates fell to absolute crap.

[Also, at this time the current Series I bond has a built-in .7% interest rate while the rest of it varies every 6 months.]

150 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:17:30am

re: #132 gmsc

I try. Sometimes personal experience leads to other paradigms. Upding for giving some hope. Kipling could be a little dark sometimes. I forgot what this is from but is was a poem of advice to young British soldiers (from memory):

When you find yourself wounded on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
And go to your Gawd like a soldier.

151 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:20:53am

re: #148 Syrah

Maybe we'll start a trend and other book discussions threads will start popping up. Who knows?

152 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:21:20am

re: #142 gmsc

I bookmarked that. Thank you for doing my work for me! You are more than just a math and magic guy, (although I consider math and magic the same). :)

153 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:21:45am

re: #145 Syrah

When I left California, I just quit my job, packed up everything I owned, and moved to Seattle. I didn't know a soul here. I didn't have a job or even a place to stay lined up. All that I had was my fill of California and place on a map to head to.

It has worked out very well.

Washington is just as screwed up and crazy as California, but the rain keeps the kookiest of the nuts indoors and out of sight.

There is no frontier left to run to.

We will have to take our stand somewhere. Pick someplace pleasant.

then i'm staying right here..... Molon Labe!

154 freetoken  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:22:01am

re: #137 gmsc

Sold my house before the bubble popped, but a year or so early. In theory, I could have gotten more for it, but in practice I did very well, essentially living "rent free +" for my adult life in California (which has been most of my adult life.)

Syrah said:

When I left California, I just quit my job, packed up everything I owned, and moved

I had no problem doing that... when I was younger.

155 Syrah  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:24:29am

re: #150 BatGuano

I try. Sometimes personal experience leads to other paradigms. Upding for giving some hope. Kipling could be a little dark sometimes. I forgot what this is from but is was a poem of advice to young British soldiers (from memory):

When you find yourself wounded on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
And go to your Gawd like a soldier.

One of my favorite Kippling stories, and a very dark and grim one at that, is The Gate Of A Hundred Sorrows

It lies between the Copper-smith's Gully and the pipe-stem sellers' quarter, within a hundred yards, too, as the crow flies, of the Mosque of Wazir Khan. I don't mind telling any one this much, but I defy him to find the Gate, however well he may think he knows the City. You might even go through the very gully it stands in a hundred times, and be none the wiser. We used to call the gully, "the Gully of the Black Smoke," but its native name is altogether different of course. A loaded donkey couldn't pass between the walls; and, at one point, just before you reach the Gate, a bulged house-front makes people go along all sideways.

156 redc1c4  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:24:40am

re: #150 BatGuano

I try. Sometimes personal experience leads to other paradigms. Upding for giving some hope. Kipling could be a little dark sometimes. I forgot what this is from but is was a poem of advice to young British soldiers (from memory):

When you find yourself wounded on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
And go to your Gawd like a soldier.

Halfway down the trail to Hell,
In a shady meadow green
Are the Souls of all dead troopers camped,
Near a good old-time canteen.
And this eternal resting place
Is known as Fiddlers' Green.

Marching past, straight through to Hell
The Infantry are seen.
Accompanied by the Engineers,
Artillery and Marines,
For none but the shades of Cavalrymen
Dismount at Fiddlers' Green.

Though some go curving down the trail
To seek a warmer scene.
No trooper ever gets to Hell
Ere he's emptied his canteen.
And so rides back to drink again
With friends at Fiddlers' Green.

And so when man and horse go down
Beneath a saber keen,
Or in a roaring charge of fierce melee
You stop a bullet clean,
And the hostiles come to get your scalp,
Just empty your canteen,
And put your pistol to your head
And go to Fiddlers' Green.

157 Neutral President  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:26:21am

re: #149 Fenway_Nation

I'm probably going to move most of my 401k and RothIRA out of bonds (I moved into Bond funds at the beginning of 2008 knowing what was coming at the time.) Not sure what I'll do with the rest thats in money market funds though. Too high of inflation and those could be a disaster. I'm leery about jumping totally back into stocks and index funds because I don't really trust the little rallys we have been having arent just part of a see-saw that could last months or years.

Everyone is paying attention to the stock market. Generally a "bottom" happens when people give up and don't care anymore. In 2003 at the dot com crash bottom I barely heard a peep about the stock market in the MFMSM.

158 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:28:33am

re: #155 Syrah

Bookmarked it. Kipling could consume ones life.

159 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:28:34am

re: #157 ArchangelMichael

Persoanlly I'm waiting for a pullback in gold right now.

160 Neutral President  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:31:25am

re: #159 Fenway_Nation

Persoanlly I'm waiting for a pullback in gold right now.

Me too. I have silver in my Roth IRA. I had some gold that I bought when it was down in the 700s and sold at 900ish and I'm waiting to get back into that. Under 820 is what I'm looking for. That might solve the money market fund problem of mine if it happens soon.

161 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:32:26am

re: #103 Alberta Oil Peon

Owning gold could stand one in good stead in the event of severe inflation. I think I will be buying some gold coins once I'm off this job.

I also hold shares in a couple of junior gold ventures.

By the way.....where (or from whom) are you getting your gold, AOP?

162 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:33:45am

re: #160 ArchangelMichael

Me too. I have silver in my Roth IRA. I had some gold that I bought when it was down in the 700s and sold at 900ish and I'm waiting to get back into that. Under 820 is what I'm looking for. That might solve the money market fund problem of mine if it happens soon.

That's a little optimistic, but I wouldn't mind seeing it (and taking advantage of it) myself.

163 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:36:31am

re: #150 BatGuano

Kipling could be a little dark sometimes.

But you shouldn't stop being kippled!
;)
re: #152 BatGuano

I bookmarked that. Thank you for doing my work for me! You are more than just a math and magic guy, (although I consider math and magic the same). :)

Oh, I have what some would call eclectic and/or eccentric tastes. Have you seen some of my other playlists?

Speaking of math AND poetry, check out Cadaeic Cadenza.

It's a short story (about 4000 words) featuring classic poems that have been slightly re-written in a mysterious format. Here's the amazing explanation behind this incredible work.

164 Syrah  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:38:11am

re: #151 Sharmuta

Maybe we'll start a trend and other book discussions threads will start popping up. Who knows?

So many books, so little time.

We will have some fun.

165 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:40:40am

Fenway shiny stuff update (i.e. my lazy ass hit the 'refresh' button):

Gold- $919 an ounce (down .009%)
Silver- $12.97 an ounce (down .004%)
Platinum- $1133 an ounce (down .0017%)
Palladium- $219 an ounce (unchanged)
Rhodium- $1010 an ounce (unchanged since last shiny stuff update- altho' Rhodium itself isn't that shiny)

166 Syrah  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:41:53am

Goodnight Lizards.

It has been a long day, from sunrise snowfall to evening rain and wind.

There is plenty of magic in the simple things that are all around us. Snowflakes, starfish, raindrops, moonlight and on and on.

Relish the moment, as many moments as you can.

We have but such a short time on this earth, it would be a shame to have missed the good parts in the hurry hurry of the every day.

167 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:42:21am

re: #161 Fenway_Nation

By the way.....where (or from whom) are you getting your gold, AOP?

There is a big coin dealer in Calgary, called Albern Coins, that sells a lot of gold coinage. I might also look into buying some wafers, and I believe the Bank of Nova Scotia still deals in wafers.

168 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:42:57am

re: #166 Syrah

Goodnight Lizards.

It has been a long day, from sunrise snowfall to evening rain and wind.

There is plenty of magic in the simple things that are all around us. Snowflakes, starfish, raindrops, moonlight and on and on.

Relish the moment, as many moments as you can.

We have but such a short time on this earth, it would be a shame to have missed the good parts in the hurry hurry of the every day.

Good night, Syrah!

I can't really do magic. I can only help you see it.

169 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:45:05am

re: #166 Syrah

Good night, my friend.

170 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:46:03am

re: #167 Alberta Oil Peon

Blue Canuck told me all about Scotiabank (Hockey Night in Canada sponsors to boot!). I was talking to them back in October on a toll-free number. They were very helpful, but told me I'd have to physically show up at a Scotiabank branch to purchase bullion- and since I'm quite a ways away from Canada right now......that's a little problematic.

171 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:46:12am
172 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:50:51am

re: #170 Fenway_Nation

Blue Canuck told me all about Scotiabank (Hockey Night in Canada sponsors to boot!). I was talking to them back in October on a toll-free number. They were very helpful, but told me I'd have to physically show up at a Scotiabank branch to purchase bullion- and since I'm quite a ways away from Canada right now......that's a little problematic.

I'm sure there must be some U.S.-based bullion dealers.

173 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:50:57am

re: #171 Iron Fist

Heehee

174 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:51:10am

re: #171 Iron Fist

Yeah, I invested some money today in brass and lead. I expect to make a killing with it sometime...

*chuckle!*

175 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:51:52am

re: #163 gmsc

gmsc, you're amazing. I just bookmarked you're references. Now I am going to have to delete many of my other bookmarks of which I have many.
I did put a smiley face after my "math and magic" remark so I hope you know I wasn't trying to limit you breadth of knowledge. I am always a envious of how much you know. : )

176 TheMatrix31  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:53:50am

Had to install some driver updates for my wireless adapter which would randomly crap out on me and I wouldn't be able to turn it back on or re-connect unless I restarted the whole system! Hopefully this was the solution.

Now if I could just get why my instant messaging client (Trillian Pro 3.1) crashes out randomly also...

177 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:54:27am

re: #166 Syrah

Good night, Syrah.

178 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:54:43am

re: #171 Iron Fist

Yeah, I invested some money today in brass and lead. I expect to make a killing with it sometime...

I'm putting my money in taxes – I know they're going up!

/brass taxes?

179 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:54:54am

re: #172 Alberta Oil Peon

Yea...but seems like the markups are greater here. Ironically, they look like they're the highest on the bullion coins struck by the US Mint.

180 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:55:56am

I'm putting my money in Fruitcup.

181 Scorch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 1:59:19am

We put all our emergency funds into taxes also.

182 UncleRancher  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:00:02am

The Sermon I think this Mom will never forget....
this particular Sunday sermon...'Dear Lord,' the minister began, with arms extended toward heaven and a rapturous look on his upturned face. 'Without you, we are but dust...' He would have continued but at that moment a very obedient daughter who was listening leaned over to her mother and asked quite audibly in her shrill little four year
old girl voice, 'Mom, what is butt dust?'

183 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:00:12am

re: #179 Fenway_Nation

Yea...but seems like the markups are greater here. Ironically, they look like they're the highest on the bullion coins struck by the US Mint.

You always pay a premium on bullion coins, because they go to a collector market. The markup is less on wafers and actual bullion, but it still exists.

My thought is that it would be nice to own enough gold in small pieces, that one would be able to live for a year on the proceeds of selling it, and it would be wealth that was sufficiently portable that you could stuff it in your pockets and bug out, if the world were falling in upon you.

184 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:01:13am

re: #175 BatGuano

gmsc, you're amazing. I just bookmarked you're references. Now I am going to have to delete many of my other bookmarks of which I have many.
I did put a smiley face after my "math and magic" remark so I hope you know I wasn't trying to limit you breadth of knowledge. I am always a envious of how much you know. : )

One of my biggest problems is trying not to come across as a know-it-all.

I just love learning, and I try and keep the things handy that I've really found fun, enjoyable, and/or useful.

As you've seen, fun knowledge is something I revel in, and love to share!

185 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:01:52am

Uh... Where iz mai Fruitcup?

186 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:01:58am

Hmm . . . it looks like littleoldlady is probably getting some well-deserved rest.

187 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:03:24am

Happy Thursday, Everyone!

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------>

Help Yourself!

/Hope lol is okay.....

188 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:04:40am

re: #187 Sharmuta

Happy Thursday, Everyone!

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------>

Help Yourself!

/Hope lol is okay.....

Sharmuta to the rescue! Thank you!

Sending my best thoughts and hopes to littleoldlady.

189 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:05:08am

re: #183 Alberta Oil Peon

You always pay a premium on bullion coins, because they go to a collector market. The markup is less on wafers and actual bullion, but it still exists.

Percentage-wise, it's worse with silver. Anywhere from 10% to 33% here.

But for some reason, the Gold Maple Leafs, Krugerrands or Philharmonics have less than a markup than the Liberty or Buffalo bullion coins...

190 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:05:37am

Hmmm...blueberries, blue raspberries, blue stawberries, blue kiwi fruit, blue pineapple. What's happening here?

191 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:07:13am

re: #189 Fenway_Nation

There's a coin called a Philharmonic?

192 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:08:07am

re: #188 gmsc

Sharmuta to the rescue! Thank you!

Sending my best thoughts and hopes to littleoldlady.

Likewise!

193 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:08:10am

re: #185 Sharmuta

Oh Noesre: #184 gmsc

I enjoy the hell out of what you know. My yspecialty is anything I have heard, seen or read. I am just not good at math. I am better than average, but not good.

194 Scorch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:08:46am

This is the second morning this week the boards have been pretty quiet. Guess everyone is exhausted.

195 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:09:52am

re: #194 Scorch

This is pretty normal. It doesn't pick up for a few hours yet.

196 Scorch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:11:35am

re: #195 Sharmuta

This is pretty normal. It doesn't pick up for a few hours yet.

Ah, well guess I'll go do some paper work and check the irrigation crew. Have a good day all.

197 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:13:40am

re: #193 BatGuano

Oh Noesre: #184 gmsc

I enjoy the hell out of what you know. My yspecialty is anything I have heard, seen or read. I am just not good at math. I am better than average, but not good.

Thanks!

198 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:14:49am

re: #191 Alberta Oil Peon

There's a coin called a Philharmonic?

Yep. Not surprisingly, it's Austria's contribution to bullion coin production.

199 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:22:49am

re: #198 Fenway_Nation

Yep. Not surprisingly, it's Austria's contribution to bullion coin production.

Interesting, Fenway. They might provide a useful way to get gold in sub-ounce units, I guess. If one is planning on using gold only as an investment, the size of the individual hunks is probably less important. But if we ever found ourselves in a real economic melt-down, I think it's a safe bet that coins of this type would soon have a "street-value" higher than their book value. So that maybe you could exchange that quarter-ounce coin for a car with a full tank of gas. ;>)

200 Crux Australis  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:23:55am

On the news tonight in Australia there was a story about Michelle Obamas breach of protocol in touching the Queen.

I know that former Prime Ministers of Australia John Howard and Paul Keating committed such a faux pas and were rebuked.

Does Michelle Obama get a free pass?

201 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:25:32am

re: #200 Crux Australis

Yes.

202 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:28:03am

re: #200 Crux Australis

On the news tonight in Australia there was a story about Michelle Obamas breach of protocol in touching the Queen.

I know that former Prime Ministers of Australia John Howard and Paul Keating committed such a faux pas and were rebuked.

Does Michelle Obama get a free pass?

Some sources said that Her Majesty put a comforting arm on Michelle first. In any case, I don't think there's much to be made of it. Michelle really doesn't have an elected or appointed position, so it's less of a protocol faux pas, (if it's one at all) than it would have been if Obama himself had done it.

203 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:28:06am

re: #199 Alberta Oil Peon

I thought the Maple Leaf, Liberty and Krugerrand were also available in fractional/sub-ounce units, too....

204 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:29:58am

re: #203 Fenway_Nation

I thought the Maple Leaf, Liberty and Krugerrand were also available in fractional/sub-ounce units, too....

You may well be right. I haven't really researched the market. I'm just now more or less able to think about having enough surplus cash to buy a little gold.

205 Crux Australis  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:30:30am

What do the Obamas know about decorum and protocol and chivalry?

At least Kevin Rudd had the decency to address the Queen appropriately.

206 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:32:10am

re: #205 Crux Australis

Kevin Rudd is a gentleman.

207 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:32:35am

re: #205 Crux Australis

What do the Obamas know about decorum and protocol and chivalry?

At least Kevin Rudd had the decency to address the Queen appropriately.

I can see it now: Michelle gives the Queen a high five, and the Queen responds with a fist-bump.

208 Spiritualized  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:33:17am

The gift that keeps on giving! Barry's iPod was even more awesome than you originally thought....

Confirmed: Queen’s iPod includes Obama’s speeches

Uploaded onto the iPod:

* Photos from the Queen's 2007 White House State Visit
* Photos from the Queen's 2007 Jamestown, Va., Visit
* Photos from the Queen's 2007 Richmond, Va., Visit
* Video from the Queen's 1957 Jamestown Visit
* Video from the Queen's 2007 Jamestown Visit
* Video from the Queen's 2007 Richmond Visit
* Photos from President Obama's Inauguration
* Audio of then-state senator Obama's speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, and
* Audio of President Obama 2009 Inauguration Address

209 TheMatrix31  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:34:48am

re: #208 Spiritualized

The gift that keeps on giving! Barry's iPod was even more awesome than you originally thought....

Confirmed: Queen’s iPod includes Obama’s speeches

I would toss it over London Bridge.

210 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:35:23am

re: #208 Spiritualized

The gift that keeps on giving! Barry's iPod was even more awesome than you originally thought....

Confirmed: Queen’s iPod includes Obama’s speeches

Wow!

It's beginning to look like those people who have been claiming that Obama is a pathological narcissist aren't just singing Dixie.

211 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:36:15am

re: #208 Spiritualized

The Queen always wanted an iPod but had too wait until The One gave it too her.

212 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:36:28am

re: #204 Alberta Oil Peon

I've been looking at bullion for a little over a year now- but I haven't had any money to do anything about it until fairly recently. But for the most part, I'm sitting on my money and waiting/hoping for a pullback to October-December '08 prices in gold, silver and maybe even platinum.

213 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:37:30am

re: #209 TheMatrix31

I would toss it over London Bridge.

I know a guy here in Vegas who brags that his arms are so strong, he could throw a rock from London Bridge and have it land in Arizona!

As it turns out, it's not all that difficult to do.
;)

214 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:40:16am

I'm dozing off at the keyboard, so I'd better say good night to all!

215 livefreeor die  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:41:32am

re: #29 gmsc

Wow-that nails it completely.

216 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:41:40am

re: #214 gmsc

I'm dozing off at the keyboard, so I'd better say good night to all!

Good night to you! By the way, was the fellow who brought London Bridge to Lake Havasu City Robert Paxton McCullogh?

217 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:41:58am

re: #214 gmsc

Good night gmsc. I will soon follow.

218 gmsc  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:42:48am

re: #216 Alberta Oil Peon

Good night to you! By the way, was the fellow who brought London Bridge to Lake Havasu City Robert Paxton McCullogh?

Yep!

219 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:44:07am

re: #216 Alberta Oil Peon

Indeed.

220 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:45:15am

re: #219 BatGuano

Dammit! First again!

221 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:47:48am

re: #218 gmsc

Yep!

I have one of his Paxton superchargers sitting on the shelf in my garage.

222 livefreeor die  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:50:21am

Here's a shockah (seriously)-Time now has an article up on Obama's Top 10 gaffes. I thought the MSM wasn't supposed to acknowledge those. Rahm must have forgot to put them on the talking points/ non talking points e-mail list.

223 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:52:16am

Whooopsie!

Thanks, Sharmuta! :-)

224 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:52:39am

re: #221 Alberta Oil Peon

Still in business although most racers are familiar with roots blower.

225 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:53:13am

re: #223 littleoldlady

Whooopsie!

Thanks, Sharmuta! :-)

Good morning, littleoldlady! Glad to see you are OK.

226 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:53:38am

re: #223 littleoldlady

Whooopsie!

Thanks, Sharmuta! :-)

Good morning lol. Never do that again!

227 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:53:48am

re: #225 Alberta Oil Peon

Alberta Oil Peon! :-)

Sleep just more messed up than usual...

228 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:54:20am

re: #224 BatGuano

Still in business although most racers are familiar with roots blower.

Paxton Products is now owned by the Granatelli brothers, AFAIK.

229 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:54:49am

BatGuano! :-)

I think I've already used up my quota for the year. :-/

230 littleoldlady  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:57:15am

Well....nice seeing y'all. (Now that I screwed up my day.)

Good day, ALL!™

231 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:57:37am

re: #229 littleoldlady

Dang right. you have responsibilities. Do not worry us like that. We always get counterfeit fruitcup.

232 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 2:58:14am

re: #229 littleoldlady

We are all happy to see you!

233 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:00:03am

Good night all. I had to wait for littleoldlady. Weet dreams.

234 BatGuano  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:02:22am

re: #228 Alberta Oil Peon

Is Andy Granatelli still alive?

235 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:07:18am

re: #234 BatGuano

Is Andy Granatelli still alive?

I do believe he is.

Have a good night. Catch you on the flip-flop.

236 TheMatrix31  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:08:16am

They're showing the Ipod playlist on F&F. Don't get me wrong, I don't have much of a problem with the gift (as much as the DVDs), but don't they figure that if this is the Queen's favorite stuff, that she would already have access to it one way or another anyway? And don't they figure that she's what, 80 years old now? Is she really going to be walkin' around with an Ipod? LOL that's a funny mental image.

237 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:10:02am

Morning Lizards.

238 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:13:56am

re: #237 rightside


Morning rightside!

G'nite rightside- lizards! Looks like I'll be sleeping thru the European and precious metal markets and first few hours of the NYSE, AMEX and Nasdaq trading.

239 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:15:11am

re: #238 Fenway_Nation

goodnight!

240 TheMatrix31  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:16:13am

re: #238 Fenway_Nation

Morning rightside!

G'nite rightside- lizards! Looks like I'll be sleeping thru the European and precious metal markets and first few hours of the NYSE, AMEX and Nasdaq trading.

Good night, man.

Good morning, Rightside!

241 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:18:27am

re: #236 TheMatrix31

They're showing the Ipod playlist on F&F. Don't get me wrong, I don't have much of a problem with the gift (as much as the DVDs), but don't they figure that if this is the Queen's favorite stuff, that she would already have access to it one way or another anyway? And don't they figure that she's what, 80 years old now? Is she really going to be walkin' around with an Ipod? LOL that's a funny mental image.

During WWII, she and her younger sister, Margaret, volunteered to work in a motor pool for the British Army, as vehicle mechanics. And she has been known to take a hand in the care and feeding of the Land Rovers on her country estates.

No moss on that lady.

242 TheMatrix31  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:21:38am

re: #241 Alberta Oil Peon

During WWII, she and her younger sister, Margaret, volunteered to work in a motor pool for the British Army, as vehicle mechanics. And she has been known to take a hand in the care and feeding of the Land Rovers on her country estates.

No moss on that lady.

Not too shabby. They're more handy than I'll ever be!

243 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:23:38am

re: #240 TheMatrix31

Morning Matrix.

244 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:26:41am

Good morning, Lizards!

245 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:27:50am

Good morning, Goddess!

246 TheMatrix31  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:28:33am

re: #244 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards!

Good morning Goddess!

I still find it weird how so many people are waking up and I haven't even gone to bed yet!

247 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:30:43am

{TheMatrix31}
{Alberta Oil Peon}
{rightside}
{RenwayNation}

248 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:31:26am

re: #244 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

249 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:38:22am

So, how has Obama embarrassed us or screwed us this AM overseas?

250 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:40:59am

Last update - 13:36 02/04/2009

13-year-old killed, 7-year-old wounded in West Bank terror attack

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Sure give em a State!

251 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:44:07am

re: #249 Nevergiveup

If he's breathing, you can be sure it's a doozy!

252 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:46:23am

re: #251 rightside

If he's breathing, you can be sure it's a doozy!

Ain't that the truth!

253 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:48:14am

13:38 UN human rights chief says pushing U.S., Canada to drop Durban II concerns (Reuters)

Sure right wonderful. Love is breaking out all over?

254 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:48:58am

bbiab

255 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:54:23am

re: #244 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, goddess. I'm going to email you later with an idea for a sort of book club for you here at LGF.

256 TheMatrix31  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:55:05am

Bah, I'm going to bed. Good night!

257 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:55:31am

re: #253 Nevergiveup

13:38 UN human rights chief says pushing U.S., Canada to drop Durban II concerns (Reuters)

Sure right wonderful. Love is breaking out all over?

Must suck, when your very job title is an oxymoron.

258 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 3:57:53am

My citation--I am NOT promoting this

The new dean of the Episcopal Divinity School, Dr. Katherine Ragsdale, has elevated an emotional, divisive issue to that of a "blessing."

I left my beloved local church when it chose to stay with TEC to join a small, new congregation of Anglicans. I've wavered recently because I miss people and the community, but this article reminds my why I cannot remain a member of TEC,

259 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:02:06am

re: #258 goddessoftheclassroom

My citation--I am NOT promoting this

The new dean of the Episcopal Divinity School, Dr. Katherine Ragsdale, has elevated an emotional, divisive issue to that of a "blessing."

I left my beloved local church when it chose to stay with TEC to join a small, new congregation of Anglicans. I've wavered recently because I miss people and the community, but this article reminds my why I cannot remain a member of TEC,

Sheesh! I am pro-choice, simply because I believe that there are some circumstances in which abortion is the lesser of two evils. But it is nevertheless an ugly and wasteful thing. That woman is batshit crazy.

260 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:03:35am

re: #258 goddessoftheclassroom

I wouldn't belong to a church that promoted that either.

261 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:04:03am

re: #259 Alberta Oil Peon

Sheesh! I am pro-choice, simply because I believe that there are some circumstances in which abortion is the lesser of two evils. But it is nevertheless an ugly and wasteful thing. That woman is batshit crazy.

As a secular, political issue, I respect the pro-choice position; as a plank in the beliefs of a CHURCH, I can't.

262 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:08:33am

re: #261 goddessoftheclassroom

As a secular, political issue, I respect the pro-choice position; as a plank in the beliefs of a CHURCH, I can't.

Exactly. I cannot see a church endorsing abortion. I can see a church showing compassion to women who choose to have an abortion, and in fact, I would want to have nothing to do with a church that failed to show compassion to a woman in that situation.

But there is a difference between having compassion for sinners, and gleefully promoting the sin.

263 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:09:03am

re: #262 Alberta Oil Peon

Exactly. I cannot see a church endorsing abortion. I can see a church showing compassion to women who choose to have an abortion, and in fact, I would want to have nothing to do with a church that failed to show compassion to a woman in that situation.

But there is a difference between having compassion for sinners, and gleefully promoting the sin.

EXACTLY.

264 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:09:33am

I've got to run--have a great day!

265 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:10:54am

Good Morning LGF.
Was it just my imagination, or did the Queen kinda grab WAB's ass?

266 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:11:50am

re: #264 goddessoftheclassroom

I've got to run--have a great day!

You, too! I'm working the graveyard shift tonight, and it may turn into an all-day affair, too, since we are at a crucial stage in proceedings here. But, I'll have a bit of a break once this is past.

267 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:12:14am

re: #265 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.
Was it just my imagination, or did the Queen kinda grab WAB's ass?

Well there goes my appetite?

268 freetoken  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:13:48am

I see someone posted a link to Pastor James Manning in the spin-offs. My memory fails me quite a bit... but I seem to remember Manning links being non grata here?

Anyway, it is to more "tea party" stuff... of which I am increasingly skeptical as a viable political means of addressing the issues of the day.

269 3 wood  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:15:34am

Good morning.

Look for the market to open up sharply as the futures are all up by about 2% at the moment.

The reason why is a little complicated. First, the market has been so far down for so long that a lot of the money standing on the sidelines is starting to get a bit eager to get back in the market Second, there is a growing sense that the market and the economy has leveled out. Third, "mark to market" is likely to be altered by FASB within the next day or so, and that will free up a lot of bank capital and reduce the "toxic asset" problem significantly, and it will be retroactive to january 1st.

270 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:17:29am

re: #265 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.
Was it just my imagination, or did the Queen kinda grab WAB's ass?

I haven't seen the video. Some folks here have said that Michelle put an arm around the Queen's waist, which is apparently a big protocol no-no.

Could be, that if such a thing happened, the Queen, having not just fallen off the turnip truck, would simply make a reciprocal gesture, simply to save Michelle the embarrassment of a protocol faux pas.

271 freetoken  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:19:06am

re: #269 3 wood

Reuters seems to think it is due to markets' happiness with the G20 meeting:

G20 heads craft crisis response, markets rise

MARKET LIFTED

World stock prices, battered by the crisis for months, have recovered some lost ground in the last month and shot higher on Thursday on hopes for a strong agreement by the G20 leaders. The index of top European shares jumped 3.9 percent after Japan's Nikkei gained 4.4 percent.

"A good rally is coming through, particularly from Asian markets overnight on hopes for a decent stimulus package from the G20 to lift confidence, especially with regards to emerging economies and a boost to the International Monetary Fund," said Henk Potts, strategist at Barclays Wealth.

272 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:19:20am

re: #269 3 wood

Good morning.

Look for the market to open up sharply as the futures are all up by about 2% at the moment.

The reason why is a little complicated. First, the market has been so far down for so long that a lot of the money standing on the sidelines is starting to get a bit eager to get back in the market Second, there is a growing sense that the market and the economy has leveled out. Third, "mark to market" is likely to be altered by FASB within the next day or so, and that will free up a lot of bank capital and reduce the "toxic asset" problem significantly, and it will be retroactive to january 1st.

Good analysis, but I attribute the market going up in the next week to opening of the Major League Baseball Season. It's Obvious isn't it? Play BALL!

273 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:22:05am

Morning all. Any way the morning isn't going to suck?

/I am not a morning person.

274 3 wood  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:24:59am

re: #271 freetoken

Reuters seems to think it is due to markets' happiness with the G20 meeting:

Another obvious MSM shill job.

Reuters has no clue how the market works

275 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:25:12am

Morning, Blue. Another 3 hours or so, and I can call it a night, and grab some shut-eye.

276 3 wood  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:25:57am

re: #272 Nevergiveup

Good analysis, but I attribute the market going up in the next week to opening of the Major League Baseball Season. It's Obvious isn't it? Play BALL!

I will go out on a limb and predict that the Cubs will not win the World Series.

277 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:26:15am

I reread Hitchens op-ed in today's National Post, and I still cannot accept the proposition that freedom of speech trumps a prohibition on fundraising for terrorist groups.
*sigh*

278 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:27:59am

re: #276 3 wood

I will go out on a limb and predict that the Cubs will not win the World Series.

You never know. Obama may put Acorn on the case.

279 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:30:31am

re: #278 Alberta Oil Peon

You never know. Obama may put Acorn on the case.

Can Acorn throw or hit a curve ball? How many divisions does Acorn have...ugh- never mind that's a whole other discussion.

280 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:31:27am

re: #275 Alberta Oil Peon

Heh, nice. Only thing about night shifts I really, really hate? Switching back to a day schedule. It's been so bloody long. :p

281 3 wood  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:34:35am

The gift that keeps on giving will be back in the news today.

Look for Rod Blagojevich to be indicted today.

282 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:35:18am

re: #279 Nevergiveup

Can Acorn throw or hit a curve ball? How many divisions does Acorn have...ugh- never mind that's a whole other discussion.

It's not who throws the strikes; it's who calls the strikes. (from the Marxist-Leninist guide to Baseball)

283 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:35:18am

I love you, Neil Cavuto!

284 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:35:56am

Japan, U.S. to shelve seeking additional U.N. sanctions on N. Korea+

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Yeah that's the ticket, that'll scare em.

285 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:36:59am

re: #282 Alberta Oil Peon

Good one!

286 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:37:56am

re: #273 BlueCanuck

BC! Have a smoke and some coffee.

287 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:38:51am

re: #285 rightside

Good one!

Gee, thanks! I'd like to see Iowahawk run with that concept. He could make a pretty funny story out of it, I'm certain.

288 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:38:58am

re: #270 Alberta Oil Peon

I haven't seen the video. Some folks here have said that Michelle put an arm around the Queen's waist, which is apparently a big protocol no-no.

Could be, that if such a thing happened, the Queen, having not just fallen off the turnip truck, would simply make a reciprocal gesture, simply to save Michelle the embarrassment of a protocol faux pas.

Michelle's ass is so big that I guess HRH couldn't avoid it.

289 3 wood  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:40:26am

I see where the Messiah apologized to the world yesterday, saying that the US more or less caused the world wide recession (funny, I remember that a lot of other businesses around the world had a role to play in it too, but I digress).

Today I expect him to apologize for World War II, and for that ugly scene some years ago in Boston involving tea.

Europe loves it, by the way.

290 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:40:34am

re: #269 3 wood

Good morning.

Look for the market to open up sharply as the futures are all up by about 2% at the moment.

The reason why is a little complicated. First, the market has been so far down for so long that a lot of the money standing on the sidelines is starting to get a bit eager to get back in the market Second, there is a growing sense that the market and the economy has leveled out. Third, "mark to market" is likely to be altered by FASB within the next day or so, and that will free up a lot of bank capital and reduce the "toxic asset" problem significantly, and it will be retroactive to january 1st.

Complicated or not, some good news is a relief.
Thanks, 3wood

291 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:40:54am

LEAVE WAB ALONE!

292 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:41:09am

re: #288 Spare O'Lake

Michelle's ass is so big that I guess HRH couldn't avoid it.

Meow!

293 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:41:40am

re: #286 rightside

Mmmmm, coffee. Should buy some. :)

/smoke sounds like a good idea though.
//and two tea bag tea is just a little too strong. :p

294 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:45:16am

re: #293 BlueCanuck

Mmmmm, coffee. Should buy some. :)

/smoke sounds like a good idea though.
//and two tea bag tea is just a little too strong. :p

So we will have to get a prescription to buy a pack of cigs or what?

295 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:45:24am

To the smoking lizards, has the price jumped significantly from the tax increase? I no longer smoke, butt the signs haven't changed their prices (yet)

296 3 wood  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:45:39am

re: #290 Wishing

Complicated or not, some good news is a relief.
Thanks, 3wood

My pleasure.

Got to go to work and pay for Obama's IPOD gift to the Queen.

One last thought.

Anybody else notice out there that Sarah Palin got roasted by the MSM for her wardrobe cost, but all you hear about the First Lady is what a style setter she is?

Not a question by the slobbering worshipful MSM about how much the woman who never was proud of her country has spent on her wardrobe

297 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:46:04am

re: #295 rightside

To the smoking lizards, has the price jumped significantly from the tax increase? I no longer smoke, butt the signs haven't changed their prices (yet)

4.79 for Mistys in TN.

298 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:48:15am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Just found this while looking at the BBC site.....

Michelle Obama fever hits the UK

She's being compared to Jacqueline Kennedy-Onassis...

299 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:50:18am

re: #298 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Just found this while looking at the BBC site.....

Michelle Obama fever hits the UK

She's being compared to Jacqueline Kennedy-Onassis...

Give me a freak en break?

300 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:50:21am

re: #298 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Just found this while looking at the BBC site.....

Michelle Obama fever hits the UK

She's being compared to Jacqueline Kennedy-Onassis...

Hopefully the UK gets sick with the fever and WE are immune!

301 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:51:23am

Good morning all!

302 Mithrax  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:51:48am

re: #298 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Just found this while looking at the BBC site.....

Michelle Obama fever hits the UK

She's being compared to Jacqueline Kennedy-Onassis...

But remember only Jacquie knew what her Own-ass-is worth!

303 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:51:49am

If anyone is unlike Jackie O it is WAB O

304 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:51:50am

re: #297 Wishing

Wow.

Rush was saying yesterday that smokers are funding the S-chip program from the cigarette taxes, and instead of bitching at them for smoking, they should thank them for saving the yoots lives.

305 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:53:08am

re: #303 Wishing


lol, I photoshopped WAB with those grillz for her mouth. Diamond teeth!

306 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:53:22am

re: #301 Chicago Blonde

Morning CB!

307 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:53:31am

re: #291 MandyManners

LEAVE WAB ALONE!

Call me old fashioned./

308 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:54:21am

re: #304 rightside

Wow.

Rush was saying yesterday that smokers are funding the S-chip program from the cigarette taxes, and instead of bitching at them for smoking, they should thank them for saving the yoots lives.

The California cigarette tax fund paid some medical bills for me, so I dont whine about it.
I made a dumb mistake and they covered my sorry butt (heh) after I had a catastrophic MVA.

309 yochanan  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:54:33am

[Link: wcbstv.com...]

would this be the BLACK CAT OF ANARCHISM?

310 Mithrax  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:54:40am

re: #307 Spare O'Lake

Call me old fashioned./

Ok. you're old fashioned....

311 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:55:31am
Happiness is good health and a bad memory.

— Ingrid Bergman

Well, my wife will tell you I have the latter part of that equation down.

Good Morning Lizards!

312 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:55:45am

re: #308 Wishing

I'm just glad I quit. What a difference.

313 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:56:07am

re: #311 Ford_Prefect

Hey Ford

314 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:56:44am

re: #307 Spare O'Lake

I was reacting to your link in No. 290. She didnt force Queen Elizabeth to put her arm around her.

315 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:56:50am

re: #304 rightside

Hey there!

So this morning we're talking about smokers and wardrobes, and the cost of each? :)

316 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:57:36am

re: #311 Ford_Prefect

Morning Ford!

317 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:57:57am

re: #313 rightside

Hey Ford

Hey back atcha. I work with a number of smokers and at least one of them is quitting because of the price. At least he says he is, we will see.

318 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:58:09am

re: #315 Chicago Blonde

I just wondered how much cigatettes went up after the new tax.

More discussion about faux pas from FCBBHO

319 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:58:13am

re: #299 Nevergiveup

Give me a freak en break?

Everyone loves the US now! Thanks to glamour girl Michelle and her handsome, clever hubby/////

320 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:58:32am

re: #316 Chicago Blonde

Morning Ford!

Morning Blondie. You seem cheerful this morning.

321 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:58:35am

re: #309 yochanan

[Link: wcbstv.com...]

would this be the BLACK CAT OF ANARCHISM?

Wow, interesting. The video on that link was pretty good!
Who goes there? Wooooooo woooooo

322 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:58:55am

re: #312 rightside

I'm just glad I quit. What a difference.

I'm working on it.

323 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 4:59:17am

re: #298 aussiemagpie

I understand that the press are already speculating that Air Force One may fly back empty, while Mr. and Mrs. Messiah stroll back on the ocean's surface, stopping here and there to raise yesterday's dead, and causing the Sun to reverse its course, as necessary. Already I feel myself being lifted up, though that may be the coffee.

324 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:00:18am

re: #318 rightside

I just wondered how much cigatettes went up after the new tax.

More discussion about faux pas from FCBBHO

You mean like giving the Queen of England a freaking IPod? Nothing like going to another country and presenting their monarchy a gift made in China to make everyone see how gracious you are.

325 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:00:22am

re: #318 rightside

re: #320 Ford_Prefect

If they ever put in a prohibitive coffee or chocolate tax, I'm doomed.

I AM cheerful - tomorrow I get to go back to regular food. ;)

326 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:01:12am

re: #325 Chicago Blonde

re: #320 Ford_Prefect

If they ever put in a prohibitive coffee or chocolate tax, I'm doomed.

I AM cheerful - tomorrow I get to go back to regular food. ;)

Hmm, have you been on hay or something?

327 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:01:18am

re: #322 Wishing

Good for you!

328 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:01:32am

re: #300 Wishing

Hopefully the UK gets sick with the fever and WE are immune!

She's pushing Brittney, Brangelina, and friends off magazine covers.. at least she won't be on the cover of cooking and motor mags :-)

329 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:01:50am

re: #325 Chicago Blonde

re: #320 Ford_Prefect

If they ever put in a prohibitive coffee or chocolate tax, I'm doomed.

I AM cheerful - tomorrow I get to go back to regular food. ;)

A chocolate tax would definitely tip off the revolution.

330 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:01:51am

re: #327 rightside

Good for you!

I am miserable. LOL

331 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:01:52am
332 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:02:07am
Happiness is good health and a bad memory.
— Ingrid Bergman

It is interesting how we tend to treat the brain as being different or separate from the rest of the body. This quote illustrates the dichotomy, in that a bad memory is not recognized as a health issue. And of course we make jokes about mental illness in a way that we never do about other medical illnesses which affect the rest of the body.

333 BlueCanuck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:02:20am

re: #328 aussiemagpie

She's pushing Brittney, Brangelina, and friends off magazine covers.. at least she won't be on the cover of cooking and motor mags :-)

Give it time, give it time.

/and on that note, time to get this butt in gear and get ready to face the day....

334 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:02:36am

re: #328 aussiemagpie

She's pushing Brittney, Brangelina, and friends off magazine covers.. at least she won't be on the cover of cooking and motor mags :-)

What makes you say that? She owns GM.

335 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:02:59am

re: #324 Ford_Prefect

From what I have heard, she has an iPod, this was a video iPod, which she wanted.

It doesn't really register on my give-o-shit meter, but I just wonder, I can't imagine the Queen would enjoy viewing video on that small screen.

336 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:03:05am

re: #326 Wishing

Hmm, have you been on hay or something?

HA! I had some dental stuff done and have been on soft food for a week. Baby food and soups seemed easiest - got my fruits and veggies. I am dying for a nice piece of brie on a hard garlic cracker or something...

337 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:03:12am

re: #330 Wishing

I am miserable. LOL

Don't give in. You deserve to treat yourself better than that.

338 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:03:42am

re: #330 Wishing

I feel your pain, but it does get easier.

339 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:04:16am

re: #302 Mithrax

But remember only Jacquie knew what her Own-ass-is worth!

Michelle's is like the economy - and her head too

Inflation ahead....

340 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:04:54am

re: #330 Wishing

I am miserable. LOL

I just saw upthread you're trying to quit - hang in there. My brother wants to but hasn't done it yet.

341 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:05:00am

re: #336 Chicago Blonde

HA! I had some dental stuff done and have been on soft food for a week. Baby food and soups seemed easiest - got my fruits and veggies. I am dying for a nice piece of brie on a hard garlic cracker or something...

Terrific! Then you must be healed up!
Nothing worse than mouth discomfort, imo.

342 Mithrax  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:05:00am

re: #339 aussiemagpie

Michelle's is like the economy - and her head too

Inflation ahead....

Oh, I was gonna say full of shit.

Or that it was cracked :P

343 Crux Australis  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:05:01am

To think that up until the 1984 God Save the Queen was the official national anthem of Australia.

God Save the Queen is only played in the presence of Royalty in Australia now.

344 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:05:03am

re: #336 Chicago Blonde


I am dying for a nice piece of brie on a hard garlic cracker or something...

That sounds good, but not with my morning coffee.

345 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:05:39am

re: #337 Ford_Prefect

Don't give in. You deserve to treat yourself better than that.

The problem is that I LIKE to smoke, most of the time, anyway.

346 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:06:03am

re: #340 Chicago Blonde

I just saw upthread you're trying to quit - hang in there. My brother wants to but hasn't done it yet.

Thanks. I hate this!

347 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:06:43am

re: #344 Ford_Prefect

That sounds good, but not with my morning coffee.

LOL! No, ya need a bowl of Cap'n Crunch for that.
What's funny is I thought I'd be dying for some good chocolate, and...no. But I saw one of those stupid Ihop commercials for loaded hash browns and that was torture!

348 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:06:47am
349 quickjustice  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:06:53am

re: #103 Alberta Oil Peon

I owned shares in a Canadian gold mine back before the first Iraq War. Their value skyrocketed when the war broke out, and I unloaded them.

I haven't been in gold since then. It's a speculative play. It keeps pace with inflation, but has no upside potential beyond that. If all you want is an inflation hedge, it'll work for that. There's no added benefit, however, and a lot of downside risk. I'd say go to commodities instead for an inflation hedge. There'll be a severe energy shortage around 2012, so oil and gas are looking like good longer-term investments right now.

National Geographic had an article about how much environmental damage occurs in unregulated gold mining in Africa. Labor conditions are horrendous. Beyond that, the total amount of gold mined in all of human history is the equivalent of something like two Olympic-sized swimming pools.

350 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:07:38am

re: #323 Pullus Iulius

I understand that the press are already speculating that Air Force One may fly back empty, while Mr. and Mrs. Messiah stroll back on the ocean's surface, stopping here and there to raise yesterday's dead, and causing the Sun to reverse its course, as necessary. Already I feel myself being lifted up, though that may be the coffee.

What an image and I'm sure there are some who believe they could do that :-)

351 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:07:59am
352 Mithrax  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:08:05am

re: #350 aussiemagpie

What an image and I'm sure there are some who believe they could do that :-)

You mean they can't?

/sarc

353 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:08:06am

re: #348 taxfreekiller


What's Al Gore going to do? fly on bull shit wings into the sun and make it stop the snow?
Sure all that excess fat will make a short lived small sun spot, but stop the snow, no.

Oh, that would be a GREAT South Park cartoon...

354 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:08:13am

re: #345 Wishing

The problem is that I LIKE to smoke, most of the time, anyway.

Yes, but the way you will feel, both physically and emotionally, when you have quit will make up for all the struggle you are going through now. I believe in you!

355 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:09:05am

re: #347 Chicago Blonde

LOL! No, ya need a bowl of Cap'n Crunch for that.

I prefer Fruit Loops myself.

356 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:09:39am

re: #354 Ford_Prefect

Yes, but the way you will feel, both physically and emotionally, when you have quit will make up for all the struggle you are going through now. I believe in you!

Thanks Ford, I wish I felt half as confident.

357 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:09:48am

re: #333 BlueCanuck

Give it time, give it time.

/and on that note, time to get this butt in gear and get ready to face the day....

Have a great day, and I hope all is well with your job, Blue :-)

358 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:10:11am

Will FCBBHO ever learn?

I thought that a clean, articulate, harvard educated man would know protocol on foreign visits.

I am seeing tons of comments in stories posted at newsblogs, etc., as "We're sorry we voted for this _______", "Please forgive us for this embarrassment", LOL!

359 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:12:01am

Yo Yo, Prez Barry rockin the G20, stayin cool, in da house with the Queen,layin an I Pod on her, keepin it real.

360 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:12:39am

re: #358 rightside

It's not so much the error of referring to the UK as England that bugs me as knowing the media hyena would be blasting Bush or Palin for this for days on end.

361 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:12:45am

re: #359 opnion

Yo Yo, Prez Barry rockin the G20, stayin cool, in da house with the Queen,layin an I Pod on her, keepin it real.

Did he and Chuck shoot some hoops down by the garage?

362 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:13:53am

re: #348 taxfreekiller

The real deal is about to be known.

Sun activity?

Way low, 100 year low, sun low ='s snow.

What's Al Gore going to do? fly on bull shit wings into the sun and make it stop the snow?
Sure all that excess fat will make a short lived small sun spot, but stop the snow, no.

And the scientists are finally starting to debunk the PC bullshit that climate change is all man made.

363 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:14:02am

re: #361 Wishing

Did he and Chuck shoot some hoops down by the garage?

No, but they probably smoked a joint behind it.

364 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:14:21am

re: #343 Crux Australis

To think that up until the 1984 God Save the Queen was the official national anthem of Australia.

God Save the Queen is only played in the presence of Royalty in Australia now.

Hello Crux!

I'm pretty hopeless playing the piano, but I can play God Save the Queen - my only tune..

How's the job hunting going?

365 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:15:00am

re: #360 Chicago Blonde

No doubt. Their silence speaks volumes.

My teen daughter is taking intro to journalism in school. I told her real journalism died in 2000.

366 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:15:06am

re: #364 aussiemagpie

(((Aussiemagpie))) Morning!

367 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:15:49am

re: #362 Spare O'Lake

And the scientists are finally starting to debunk the PC bullshit that climate change is all man made.

I listened in to a town hall phone meeting with Phil Roe (R-TN) the other day and he said that cap and trade is a done deal. IS this so? No debate allowed on the science (or lack thereof) of this nonsense?

368 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:16:00am

re: #365 rightside

No doubt. Their silence speaks volumes.

My teen daughter is taking intro to journalism in school. I told her real journalism died in 2000.

Maybe she can be a voice for US.

369 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:16:42am
370 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:17:08am

re: #365 rightside

No doubt. Their silence speaks volumes.

My teen daughter is taking intro to journalism in school. I told her real journalism died in 2000.

Journalism still lives. It's just harder to practice it nowadays with the MFM in the way.

371 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:17:09am

re: #368 Chicago Blonde

She wants to work with animals. That class is mandatory for a semester!

372 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:17:31am

re: #361 Wishing

Did he and Chuck shoot some hoops down by the garage?

Barry O'Bomber gittin his game on!

373 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:17:32am

re: #352 Mithrax

You mean they can't?

/sarc

Another disappointed Obama fan///

374 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:18:32am

re: #370 MandyManners

True, there are still journalists who know what it is. I was referring to the drive-bys though.

Pretty sad that 30% believe colbert/stewart are real news.

375 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:18:40am

re: #371 rightside

She wants to work with animals. That class is mandatory for a semester!

Does she want to be a vet?

376 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:20:10am

re: #375 Chicago Blonde

Eventually, yes. She loves animals period (except snakes, bugs, and other creepy-crawly things LOL). Wants to volunteer to help at our local vet.

377 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:20:57am

re: #374 rightside

True, there are still journalists who know what it is. I was referring to the drive-bys though.

Pretty sad that 30% believe colbert/stewart are real news.

That makes my head hurt.

378 MandyManners  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:21:05am

bbl

379 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:21:13am

Anybody see the Barry Chia advertised? I saw it this morning, it's a small bust of the One. You spread the Chia on it"s head, water it & it grows green hair!
It is supposwed to be a serious tribute , but it looks like a circus clown.

380 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:21:25am

Good news from my home state, CT:

Q Poll: Dodd Would Lose To Simmons

The fact that Simmons would win isn't new, but the margin is getting bigger and now two other GOP candidates would win as well.

The poll shows Simmons defeating Dodd by a 50 percent to 34 percent margin. Dodd trails state Sen. Sam Caligiuri (kahl-uh-JER'-ee) 41 percent to 37 percent, and former ambassador Tom Foley 43 percent to 35 percent.

The part that disturbs me though is this:

The survey of nearly 2,000 registered voters also shows that Dodd is experiencing his lowest job approval numbers, with only 33 percent approving of the job that he's doing and 58 percent disapproving.

Who are the 33% that think Dodd is doing a good job? These are obviously blind Democrats that would vote for my dog if she were on the Dem ticket. Actually my dog would do a better job than Dodd, and she is not a very bright dog.

381 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:22:08am

re: #379 opnion

Anybody see the Barry Chia advertised? I saw it this morning, it's a small bust of the One. You spread the Chia on it"s head, water it & it grows green hair!
It is supposwed to be a serious tribute , but it looks like a circus clown.

So you are saying that it is very realistic?

382 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:22:14am

re: #376 rightside

You must be very proud. :)

You're right about Colbert & Stewart - they're like nails on a blackboard to me.

383 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:22:22am

re: #366 Chicago Blonde

(((Aussiemagpie))) Morning!


{Chicago blonde} I'm glad you survived that dental torture :-)

I had to get some cheese and crackers after you just mentioned that!

384 Mithrax  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:23:10am

re: #383 aussiemagpie

{Chicago blonde} I'm glad you survived that dental torture :-)

I had to get some cheese and crackers after you just mentioned that!

Now now, did you bring enough for the rest of us? :P

385 freetoken  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:23:26am

re: #362 Spare O'Lake

That NationalPost article has both strawmen (about what climatologists say) as well as an inadequate summary of what the NOAA report was all about.

386 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:23:52am

re: #381 Ford_Prefect

So you are saying that it is very realistic?

It would be a spot on replica with a red nose & slap shoes.

387 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:24:27am

re: #383 aussiemagpie

{Chicago blonde} I'm glad you survived that dental torture :-)

I had to get some cheese and crackers after you just mentioned that!

Thanks! :) It wasn't nearly as bad as I feared but in the States we have a chain called Ihop - they're not even a place that I like but they've been airing these commercials for fried potatoes loaded with ham, cheese, green onions...those actually looked so good I had to look away!

388 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:24:44am

re: #382 Chicago Blonde

I am, but she is a woman, and will change her mind incessantly for the rest of her life, claiming "it's her prerogative"

389 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:25:07am

re: #386 opnion

It would be a spot on replica with a red nose & slap shoes.

Ha! Is that what those are called? Clown shoes are slap shoes?
Learn something new everyday!

390 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:25:37am

BBIAB

391 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:25:48am

re: #384 Mithrax

Now now, did you bring enough for the rest of us? :P

Of course, and some nice dip for you all too :-)

392 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:25:50am

re: #324 Ford_Prefect

You mean like giving the Queen of England a freaking IPod? Nothing like going to another country and presenting their monarchy a gift made in China to make everyone see how gracious you are.


It's what the FCB downloaded onto the IPod. Himself giving a fucking speech. Maybe it would have been more appropriate had he given her something of historical importance, say a speech by Churchill. But his speech at the 2004 DNC and his inaugural address, pretty soon his head will be so big you won't notice his ears.

393 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:26:10am

Al Gore appeared at the Chicago Theatre last night, to spread the Climate Change hysteria. According to the Chicago Tribune the turn out was not good.

394 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:26:28am

re: #387 Chicago Blonde

Thanks! :) It wasn't nearly as bad as I feared but in the States we have a chain called Ihop - they're not even a place that I like but they've been airing these commercials for fried potatoes loaded with ham, cheese, green onions...those actually looked so good I had to look away!

IHOP = International House of Pancakes.
Do they still serve a carafe of coffee?

395 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:26:35am

re: #389 Wishing

Ha! Is that what those are called? Clown shoes are slap shoes?
Learn something new everyday!

yup

396 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:27:48am

re: #358 rightside

When gassing on about how great health care is for single-payer countries, Obama repeatedly referred to Canada and “England”.


Mr. Brilliant ought to try talking to some Canadians and Brits about their "great" health care. My neighbor next door is from GB and is increasingly appalled at the care their relatives back there are supplied by their "health care" system, and my neighbor down the street (still owns home in Canada and can only be here 3 months. period. end of discussion), tells us what a nightmare it is unless you are wealthy enough to come here for decent health care.

Mr. Brilliant ought to shut up and listen to people who know a hell of a lot more than he does about a hell of a lot more than he does.

I can't believe we have to endure this.

WTH did people think they were getting when they voted for... this?

397 summergurl  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:27:56am

re: #344 Ford_Prefect

That sounds good, but not with my morning coffee.

A toasted bagel with cheese sounds good though

398 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:28:11am

I guess *clown shoes* always got the point across, but I prefer to use the proper name. Thanks!

399 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:28:39am

Doctors meeting on allegations Arafat poisoned postponed

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

I guess the "proof" they need hasn't been manufactured yet?

400 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:29:22am

re: #379 opnion

Anybody see the Barry Chia advertised? I saw it this morning, it's a small bust of the One. You spread the Chia on it"s head, water it & it grows green hair!
It is supposwed to be a serious tribute , but it looks like a circus clown.

I think the fact that it looks like a circus clown proves that it is, in fact, a serious tribute.

401 summergurl  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:30:09am

re: #387 Chicago Blonde

Thanks! :) It wasn't nearly as bad as I feared but in the States we have a chain called Ihop - they're not even a place that I like but they've been airing these commercials for fried potatoes loaded with ham, cheese, green onions...those actually looked so good I had to look away!


Thank goodness Waffle House doesn't have commercials - I would be huge

402 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:30:23am

re: #398 Wishing

I guess *clown shoes* always got the point across, but I prefer to use the proper name. Thanks!

Barry alweays wears clown shoes , even if they are loafers.

403 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:30:26am

re: #396 J.D.

Mr. Brilliant ought to try talking to some Canadians and Brits about their "great" health care. My neighbor next door is from GB and is increasingly appalled at the care their relatives back there are supplied by their "health care" system, and my neighbor down the street (still owns home in Canada and can only be here 3 months. period. end of discussion), tells us what a nightmare it is unless you are wealthy enough to come here for decent health care.

Mr. Brilliant ought to shut up and listen to people who know a hell of a lot more than he does about a hell of a lot more than he does.

I can't believe we have to endure this.

WTH did people think they were getting when they voted for... this?

Some people out there know more than Zero. That could be considered blasphemey in this day and age.///

404 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:31:05am

re: #387 Chicago Blonde

Thanks! :) It wasn't nearly as bad as I feared but in the States we have a chain called Ihop - they're not even a place that I like but they've been airing these commercials for fried potatoes loaded with ham, cheese, green onions...those actually looked so good I had to look away!

I wonder why so many of us have this fear of dentists?
As for food...
Just watch the baby food commercials :-)

405 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:31:19am

re: #399 Nevergiveup

Doctors meeting on allegations Arafat poisoned postponed

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

I guess the "proof" they need hasn't been manufactured yet?

Karposi's isn't acceptable I guess? He had those all over. Blecch.

406 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:31:28am

re: #396 J.D.

Anything is better than Chimperor MsBushitlerburton. FCBBHO will continue ignoring the constitution, and be in continuous campaign mode, to sustain his approval ratings. He will make speeches to appeal to the masses by excoriating the greedy rich, and promise everyone universal everything under his new "oconomy™"

407 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:31:36am

Biden credits stimulus for fire station funded under Bush

[Link: www.mcclatchydc.com...]

Some piece of work ha?

408 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:31:39am

re: #400 J.D.

I think the fact that it looks like a circus clown proves that it is, in fact, a serious tribute.

It is bizzare & on the side of the thing is inscribed "Yes we can."

409 Crux Australis  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:31:55am

re: #364 aussiemagpie

Hello Crux!

I'm pretty hopeless playing the piano, but I can play God Save the Queen - my only tune..

How's the job hunting going?

Very slow at the moment. Not many people interested.

And to add to my concerns I need 4 new tires for my car. Plus registration and insurance at the same time.

410 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:33:09am

re: #393 opnion

Too cold there?

411 summergurl  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:33:10am

re: #393 opnion

Al Gore appeared at the Chicago Theatre last night, to spread the Climate Change hysteria. According to the Chicago Tribune the turn out was not good.


Did they have to slog thru snow to get there? It's April and isn't it still cold up there?

412 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:33:15am

re: #409 Crux Australis

Very slow at the moment. Not many people interested.

And to add to my concerns I need 4 new tires for my car. Plus registration and insurance at the same time.

See? If you'd followed the One's advice, and kept your tires properly inflated, they would have lasted longer.
///

413 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:34:14am

You notice that BHO did not give the Queen a copy of either one of his memoirs. If she read one of those , she would implore the next Prime Minister to bar Barry as an undesireable.

414 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:35:53am

re: #394 Wishing

re: #404 aussiemagpie

I don't even care for IHOP so I don't know - it was just those commercials getting under my skin. It was like waving a donut around Homer Simpson! Mr. Blonde cooked himself some very nice pork medallions and the SMELL of that being in the same room as me didn't even tempt me.

415 Crux Australis  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:36:33am

re: #412 Alberta Oil Peon

See? If you'd followed the One's advice, and kept your tires properly inflated, they would have lasted longer.
///

But they have lasted 6 years and 70,000 km (45,000 miles)

416 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:37:31am

re: #410 rightside

re: #411 summergurl

It is cold in Chicago now. Global Warmig interest is low in cool weather.
Why is that?

417 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:39:18am

re: #416 opnion

They're claiming globull warming is causing all the cold air!

418 summergurl  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:39:42am

Nothing but a bunch of theatrics and trickery---

The money was coming all along but now they will switch the funding stream to say it was part of thr $timulu$

Biden

419 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:40:14am

re: #417 rightside

They're claiming globull warming is causing all the cold air!

Climate Chaos! Very complicated.

420 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:40:30am

re: #409 Crux Australis

Very slow at the moment. Not many people interested.

And to add to my concerns I need 4 new tires for my car. Plus registration and insurance at the same time.

And it's getting worse, with the new IR regime, many small businesses will not be hiring new staff

At my workplace, new staff are being put on as casuals now

I wish you all the best with your job search, Crux

As for those bills, I'm noticing huge jumps in all of them - and no pay increases of course to cover them

I'm sure you'll shop around for tires, I found a place at Peakhurst which is a bit far from your area, but the tires were much cheaper than elsewhere and I saved a fair bit

421 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:41:11am

re: #419 opnion

Climate Chaos! Very complicated.

And to really understand it, you must comply with cap and trade. With doing paying comes understanding.

422 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:41:39am

re: #403 soxfan4life

Some people out there know more than Zero. That could be considered blasphemey in this day and age.///

Makes you wonder how he got into Harvard.
/I think there's no question at this point

I'd have loved to be there when my Canadian friend heard about Mr. Brilliant's aunt. He says if they are so much as one minute late getting back across the border, there is hell to pay. Big time. He is one of the funniest people I know, and I can't wait to hear what he has to say about it.

423 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:42:01am

re: #408 opnion

It is bizzare & on the side of the thing is inscribed "Yes we can."

No.

424 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:43:02am

re: #423 J.D.

No.

No.We.Won't.

425 Irish Rose  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:43:23am

Good morning, lizards.

I see that the topic of anti-vaccine idiocy is still generating a lot of angst.

426 summergurl  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:43:31am

Hey here is some good news --- Gov Mark Sanford will probably officially refuse the $timulu$ money tomorrow. Lots of publicity here about it... as he put it "Chicago style politics"... Some of the media is portratying it as he doesn't care about the people put of work. Balderdash!

As he said on FOX this AM, "There is no such thing as free money".

I know folks that have met him and says the guy is not just grandstanding and vying for a spot on the next Presidential ticket but really wants to do the right thing.

427 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:43:34am

re: #414 Chicago Blonde

re: #404 aussiemagpie

I don't even care for IHOP so I don't know - it was just those commercials getting under my skin. It was like waving a donut around Homer Simpson! Mr. Blonde cooked himself some very nice pork medallions and the SMELL of that being in the same room as me didn't even tempt me.

Just stick to LGF, no telly for you :-)

428 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:43:43am

re: #396 J.D.

WTH did people think they were getting when they voted for... this?

Everything they've always dreamt of, in too many cases.

Universal health care scares the crap out of me. A friend of mine from Canada thinks it's wonderful, going on and on about it. Of course, he's a twentysomething that only had to pop in the clinic for an antibiotic for the odd sinus infection and the rest of his family is healthy so far. That's the problem - too many very young people not thinking ahead.

429 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:44:04am

re: #423 J.D.

No.

Seriously, ya gotta see the thing.

430 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:45:39am

Good morning all. Here is a link to a piece by Victor Davis Hanson that is a bit more optimistic than some of his recent posts...

In other words, there are millions of impressive Americans, who get up in the morning at 5AM, go to bed at 10PM, avoid the bars, the drugs, the crime — and carry the rest of the country on their backs. My only worry is that those in Washington misunderstand this rare cohort, and so demonize them as the “wealthy,” as if they bundled subprime mortgages on Wall Street and took $10 million annual bonuses. What President Obama should be doing is allotting a mini-second timeout from all the Chicago demagogic rhetoric about the “rich and powerful,” the noble needy and victimized, instead to praise those who paid their mortgages without a hitch, aren’t late on their rarely used credit cards, pay their bills when they arrive, and thereby allowing by their code others to default without ruining the country.

He needs to thank this invisible nation for paying most of the taxes, for creating the wealth to pay for community organizers and politicians, for not costing the government billions for self-induced health problems, crime, parole, counseling, drug rehab, and all the other pathologies that instead garner our attention. We are lucky to have these brilliant Americans of the old school; in toto they comprise a nation larger than France or Britain, and more or less ensure that the world abroad does not completely look like Libya, Venezuela, North Korea or Iran.

Read the whole thing

431 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:46:21am

re: #406 rightside

The more he talks, the worse it gets, but he's so carried away with himself he can't get enough, which will be his downfall.

You have to at minimum vote for the adult when you make your choice in the voting booth. Sometimes, it's just that simple.

432 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:47:28am

Here's another part from the same VDH article...

3. Soldiers. We are protected by the most competent, judicious — and lethal — military in the history of civilization. The great tragedy of Iraq is that no one really credits our soldiers for doing the near impossible: they went into the heart of the ancient caliphate, took out a genocidal monster, stayed on to foster consensual government, endured often poisonous attacks from critics at home (Cf. Harry Reid’s the war is “lost”, the slurs from Durbin, Kennedy, Kerry, and Murtha that our boys were terrorists or analogous to Baathists, Pol Pot, Stalin, etc.), and triumphed at a cost less than during a major campaign in World War II (e.g., far less than say Iwo Jima, the Bulge, Okinawa, etc).

Today Obama was boasting that he could redirect soldiers to Afghanistan now that Iraq was quiet — as if in his mere 70 days he had anything to do with the bravery and skill that brought Iraq to its improving state, as if we’ve forgotten that he wanted all troops gone by March 2008, declared the surge a failure, and voted to cut off funding for the war. Iraq was won despite the politicians, contrary to the conventional wisdom, and largely due to the ingenuity of our soldiers.

What is the key to the success of our military, other than the traditional civic militarism as outlined in the Constitution and honed over two centuries of fighting? I can think of five reasons why the 21st-century American military is so successful.

1) There is an officer corps whose members are, to be frank, relics of an American past. They are ossified in amber as it were, and really do believe in passé things like honor, duty, country, God, sacrifice, and the continuation of the American experiment. Meet a Marine colonel, an Army major, an Air Force one-star, or a Navy captain and it is often as if you are talking to a younger version of your grandfather, as if we packed thousands of our best in ice around 1945, and then thawed them out in the 21st century. These odd men and women of the old breed will do almost anything as outlined in the Constitution to ensure that their country — you and I — is safe and continues on in perpetuity.

2) Our enlisted men have a rambunctious, upbeat attitude, if you will. This generation of youth seems unafraid, reckless even, and — despite the demonization in popular culture of the military, the male, physicality, etc. — seems to pride in being on the cutting edge of danger. They are superb fighters. Few would wish to test the U.S. Marines; the Marines or Rangers I had met in two visits to Iraq seemed to me far scarier than a masked al-Qaeda terrorist rambling on videos waving his scimitar. Indeed, they were scarier. Talking to a 20-year old Marine in Ramadi with bulging biceps, loaded down with 70 pounds of gear and weaponry, smiling as he lets on that he’s been up for 30 straight hours is a surreal experience.

3) The military has married intellectual life with command. Some of the brightest PhDs I have encountered are Army officers at the LTC and colonel level. The service’s recent efforts to send its best and brightest to graduate history and political science programs are paying real dividends. During the Anbar awakening, I watched a number of presentations by Army colonels on the Iraqi tribal system; they were often more sophisticated and astute talks than what I had usually heard as an academic at scholarly symposia. In short, we have some brilliantly educated and inquisitive — and outspoken — officers who do not see “book” learning at odds at all with Pattonesque audacity. (Now let us hope we can promote this new generation of colonels to generals.)

433 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:47:55am

re: #417 rightside

They're claiming globull warming is causing all the cold air!

No.

434 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:48:14am

re: #422 J.D.

Makes you wonder how he got into Harvard.
/I think there's no question at this point

I'd have loved to be there when my Canadian friend heard about Mr. Brilliant's aunt. He says if they are so much as one minute late getting back across the border, there is hell to pay. Big time. He is one of the funniest people I know, and I can't wait to hear what he has to say about it.

There are people here in Boston who think she has done nothing wrong. Of course when I make the argument that if I a tax paying citizen who is a veteran ignored a judges order, guess where I would be, they are quick to tell me what a crime contempt of court is. Amazes me that these so called intelligent liberals can't make the connection. I really can't wait to move out of here.

435 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:48:32am

Work is getting the way of keeping up with the dialogue here. that leaves me with the option of ignoring work or logging off lgf. Oh well, guess work will hafta wait.
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Aw hell. I love you guys, but you don't pay my bills. Although I suppose if I were to get laid off you would be paying my bills.
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Naw, I don't want that.

Later Lizards!

436 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:49:01am

re: #430 Leonidas Hoplite

Morning Leonidas! Great article.

437 summergurl  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:49:11am

re: #428 Chicago Blonde

Everything they've always dreamt of, in too many cases.

Universal health care scares the crap out of me. A friend of mine from Canada thinks it's wonderful, going on and on about it. Of course, he's a twentysomething that only had to pop in the clinic for an antibiotic for the odd sinus infection and the rest of his family is healthy so far. That's the problem - too many very young people not thinking ahead.

Yeah well I had a snowmobile accident in 2000 up near Banff. The hospital I was taken to had no MRI - just an Xray machine. Ended up with a broke nose and a hematoma spread from one side to the other across my midsection where the handlebar jabbed me right before I double flipped over the sled. They were more equipped to deal with broken bones from the snowboarders and skiers. I heard on the news that wherever Natasha Richardson was their wasn't an MRI - and that is a big difference - most resorts here you can reach a hospital with that type of equipment within the critical time window.

438 Lively  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:49:48am

re: #403 soxfan4life

Some people out there know more than Zero. That could be considered blasphemey in this day and age.///


The difference between Jesus and President Obama: Jesus knew how to assemble a Cabinet.

/read it on reader comments of Daily Mail, lol

439 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:50:41am

re: #430 Leonidas Hoplite

And it's a great point - the people making a decent wage through hard work are going to look "rich" to those who do not. That's a sore spot with me, because Mr. Blonde and I were accused of being rich.

/Yeah, I wish.

440 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:50:46am

Well, I must bid you all Good Morning, and log out and get some work done here. Be well.

441 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:51:33am

re: #438 Lively

The difference between Jesus and President Obama: Jesus knew how to assemble a Cabinet.

/read it on reader comments of Daily Mail, lol

Obama has more halos...
Tells you all you need to know about leg-tinglers.

442 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:51:40am

re: #438 Lively

The difference between Jesus and President Obama: Jesus knew how to assemble a Cabinet.

/read it on reader comments of Daily Mail, lol


Jesus died to forgive our sins, Zero will make us die because of his.

443 Crux Australis  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:52:15am

re: #420 aussiemagpie

I'm sure you'll shop around for tires, I found a place at Peakhurst which is a bit far from your area, but the tires were much cheaper than elsewhere and I saved a fair bit

There is a place in Baulkham Hills that always has good deals on tires. I always get mine there.

Have you enjoyed the rain over the last 3-4 days. I can see stars tonight for the first time in 5 nights.

444 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:52:58am

re: #429 opnion

Seriously, ya gotta see the thing.

Obama, you are my chia pet!

445 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:54:39am

re: #437 summergurl

I am so sorry.

You and I know. The problem is all the late-teen and early 20 people, or the unbelievably lucky out there, who think UHC is a grand plan because they've never needed anything more than some meds for that strep throat.

446 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:55:22am

re: #429 opnion

Seriously, ya gotta see the thing.

I found it.

WARNING
SPEW ALERT
Chia Obama Handmade Decorative Planter

I need one of those.
I'll order one for myself and one for my neighbor from GB. I didn't tell him for 3 months that it was I who left the

O
shit!

poster on their front porch. He said his wife hated it.

447 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:57:04am

re: #444 Wishing

Obama, you are my chia pet!

Next state gift?

448 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:57:20am

re: #421 Wishing

And to really understand it, you must comply with cap and trade. With doing paying comes understanding.

And by then, it's too late.

Ya know, you buy 'em books and you buy 'em books...

449 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:57:34am

re: #446 J.D.

I found it.

WARNING
SPEW ALERT
Chia Obama Handmade Decorative Planter

I need one of those.
I'll order one for myself and one for my neighbor from GB. I didn't tell him for 3 months that it was I who left the

O
shit!

poster on their front porch. He said his wife hated it.

Would be appropriate if it came with some marijuana seeds, or poppy seeds.

450 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:58:08am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see Israel's partners for peace are busy showing their peaceful intentions once again today. Axe murderer butchers a 16 year old child and injures a 7-year-old; Hamas hails the terrorist as a hero and says this is a natural reaction to occupation.

Fatah's Palestinian Authority says that those Palestinians selling land to Israelis (read: Jews) will be subject to the death penalty for treason.

Syria and Hizbullah are reasserting their ties and calling for Israel to return the Golan or else they'll go to war to take it back.

These are the partners in peace? Only in an insane asylum would that even be contemplated.

451 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:59:05am

re: #426 summergurl

"There is no such thing as free money"

Good for him.

He has a brain.

452 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 5:59:25am

re: #450 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see Israel's partners for peace are busy showing their peaceful intentions once again today. Axe murderer butchers a 16 year old child and injures a 7-year-old; Hamas hails the terrorist as a hero and says this is a natural reaction to occupation.

Fatah's Palestinian Authority says that those Palestinians selling land to Israelis (read: Jews) will be subject to the death penalty for treason.

Syria and Hizbullah are reasserting their ties and calling for Israel to return the Golan or else they'll go to war to take it back.

These are the partners in peace? Only in an insane asylum would that even be contemplated.


"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer"

453 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:00:29am

re: #439 Chicago Blonde

And it's a great point - the people making a decent wage through hard work are going to look "rich" to those who do not. That's a sore spot with me, because Mr. Blonde and I were accused of being rich.

/Yeah, I wish.

It is coming to that, where those who are responsible, mature adults who value hard work, saving, and preparation will be carrying around the entire rest of the country on their backs (if they aren't already). It used to be that ambition, achievement, diligence and success were esteemed values - and they still are but only in the political arena. Those values, among others, are what made us a great country, but they have gradually been eroded and degraded by hard-core lefties and for what purpose I just don't understand. I guess they are trying to create utopia, heaven-on-earth, or the Garden of Eden, but the reason that will ultimately fail is human nature, which they seem to ignore completely in all their grandiose planning.

454 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:00:58am

re: #443 Crux Australis

There is a place in Baulkham Hills that always has good deals on tires. I always get mine there.

Have you enjoyed the rain over the last 3-4 days. I can see stars tonight for the first time in 5 nights.

I get my tires from tirerack.com.

455 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:01:42am

re: #428 Chicago Blonde

Everything they've always dreamt of, in too many cases.

Universal health care scares the crap out of me. A friend of mine from Canada thinks it's wonderful, going on and on about it. Of course, he's a twentysomething that only had to pop in the clinic for an antibiotic for the odd sinus infection and the rest of his family is healthy so far. That's the problem - too many very young people not thinking ahead.

Yes, too many young people not thinking ahead, but also too many old people who have done the same for their entire lives. What makes people think this is supposed to be easy? What satisfaction is there in sitting around with your hand out? I hate it for them but, even more, I hate it for you and me and the rest of us who take pride in accomplishment.

456 ciaospirit  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:01:59am

More of the same lunacy using our money. Why fast track it? Is it racist to ask for a plan first?

House Democrats are pressing a plan to make it easier to use "fast-track" rules to expedite passage of health care legislation backed by Obama, even as their GOP rivals in the Senate won a key vote Wednesday emphatically rejecting such an approach on global warming.
...
Congressional budget resolutions are nonbinding blueprints that set the parameters for legislation to follow. Unlike budget resolutions typically advanced in the first years of a presidency, the 2010 budget plans are remarkably light on detail, offering little guidance on how to pay for a health care overhaul or an extension of Obama's signature $400 tax credit for most workers.

457 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:02:19am

re: #452 soxfan4life

"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer"

Vito Corleone never had to deal with animals like this. I am sure what he would do with them might get me banned so use your imagination.

458 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:02:55am

re: #430 Leonidas Hoplite

Good morning all. Here is a link to a piece by Victor Davis Hanson that is a bit more optimistic than some of his recent posts...

Read the whole thing

I shall.

Thank you!

459 Crux Australis  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:04:11am

And it's time for bed. I have to get up early to run a few errands tomorrow.

460 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:04:40am

re: #453 Leonidas Hoplite

I guess they are trying to create utopia, heaven-on-earth, or the Garden of Eden, but the reason that will ultimately fail is human nature, which they seem to ignore completely in all their grandiose planning.

Ding Ding Ding!

And it's happening at an accelerated pace too - dumbing down and rejecting personal responsibility. My dad still worked at a time when hard work was rewarded. Now it's all about how cool you are, with idiots voting for someone because they look so cool in coat and shades (almost verbatim words).

They don't factor in the people who resent carrying freeloaders wising up.

461 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:07:22am

re: #449 soxfan4life

Would be appropriate if it came with some marijuana seeds, or poppy seeds.

Seriously, I'm going to buy one.
Or maybe several.
All but about 5% of my neighborhood would give it as a gag gift.

462 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:08:00am

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (61 degrees, BOOOMING all the way up to 62 degrees!) rainy and cloudy Charlotte!
Hope everyone is doing well today!

463 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:08:08am

re: #455 J.D.

I'd love it to be easy, but it ISN'T. I'm fine with working my butt off as long as I get to keep what I make. Don't tell me I have to "share" with some lazy idiot.

As for the newer batch of 20somethings, I think they look at geezers past 35 and think we should all just be dragged to Logan's Run.

464 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:08:36am

re: #447 Chicago Blonde

Next state gift?

There's no question! LOL!

465 3 wood  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:09:37am

Just a quick note. Look for the markets to really jump todya. Here's why:

FASB Eases Fair-Value Accounting Rules Amid Lawmaker Pressure

April 2 (Bloomberg) -- The Financial Accounting Standards Board, pressured by U.S. lawmakers and financial companies, voted to relax fair-value rules that Citigroup Inc. and Wells Fargo & Co. say don’t work when markets are inactive.

The changes approved today to fair-value, also known as mark-to-market, allow companies to use “significant” judgment in valuing assets to reduce writedowns on certain investments, including mortgage-backed securities. Accounting analysts say the measure, which can be applied to first-quarter results, may boost banks’ net income by 20 percent or more.

The bank stocks should really take off today. This move also greatly reduces the amount of toxic assets that have to be dealt with, plus the banks can now actually value their assets and know how much capital they have to work with.

466 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:09:40am

Well I've got 50% of Ingrid Bergman's receipe for uh, hmmm........Happiness! Now if I could get the other 50% I'd probably plotz from joy with a cardiac event, LOL!

467 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:09:41am

re: #450 lawhawk

Only in an insane asylum would that even be contemplated.


And what does that tell you, grasshopper?

468 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:10:28am

re: #443 Crux Australis

There is a place in Baulkham Hills that always has good deals on tires. I always get mine there.

Have you enjoyed the rain over the last 3-4 days. I can see stars tonight for the first time in 5 nights.

We had the usual local flooding here, my garage and some of the streets around here were a bit waterlogged

And I've just looked outside too, and the stars are there! It's lovely and clear here

469 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:10:30am

re: #465 3 wood
Hey thanks 3 wood - hope you're well and have a great day!

470 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:11:01am

re: #463 Chicago Blonde

I'd love it to be easy, but it ISN'T. I'm fine with working my butt off as long as I get to keep what I make. Don't tell me I have to "share" with some lazy idiot.

As for the newer batch of 20somethings, I think they look at geezers past 35 and think we should all just be dragged to Logan's Run.

The fact that it's hard makes it all the more worthwhile. We sacrificed early to get to where we're at, but that is lost on the PS3 generation. They only see the end result, not what it took to get there. And they want it now...

471 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:11:12am

re: #456 ciaospirit

More of the same lunacy using our money. Why fast track it? Is it racist to ask for a plan first?

Now it is.

472 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:11:26am

*GAG ALERT*

More fawning media coverage by the usual suspects.

When everything crumbles, watch the drive-by's scramble for cover in avoiding responsibility for shamlessly shilling for this fraudulent manchild.

Anytime a conservative is being interviewed by the drive-by's, they should remark that their clothes are still wet, from being in the tank for FCBBHO.

473 summergurl  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:11:43am

re: #465 3 wood

Just a quick note. Look for the markets to really jump todya. Here's why:

FASB Eases Fair-Value Accounting Rules Amid Lawmaker Pressure

Wow what incredible timing - as the Prez is in Europe and can be hailed accordingly


The bank stocks should really take off today. This move also greatly reduces the amount of toxic assets that have to be dealt with, plus the banks can now actually value their assets and know how much capital they have to work with.

474 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:11:51am

Good morning folks.

If you need a morning chuckle (and these days, who doesn't?), do yourself a favour and read Quentin Letts' column in the Daily Mail:

Obama told a joke and Brown laughed... and laughed... and laughed... and laughed

Mr Obama uttered a sentence. Mr Brown nodded. Mr Obama paused. Mr Brown froze, frowning. Mr Obama made a very slight joke. Mr Brown gassed himself, laughing for a good 30 seconds, eyelids fluttering like the wings of a soft-flapping Cabbage White.

Allegedly the most charismatic politician in the world, Mr Obama was a disappointment. It sounded as though he had a blocked nose and so his lack of energy may have been a symptom of a cold. Jet lag, too. He probably wished he could have stayed in bed.

Then there were the bodyguards. The US of A guys have buttons in their lapels and scowl at the world in a quite unnecessary fashion. One is tempted to go up to them and tickle their armpits, just to see if they might smile.

Mr Obama fiddled with the cuff of one sleeve, Prince Charles-style, while Mr Brown hosed him down with treacle. The Prime Minister, fluffing with nerves in a couple of places, spoke of the president's 'leadership, vision, courage, dynamism, energy, achievements...'

He spoke slowly, in a meandering manner. Some might say that he was thoughtful and professorial. Others might call his manner circuitous, even yarny.

Am I saying that he was a bore? Oh dear. I find that I possibly am.

But in a good way, arguably. He came across as a president who would consult and think thrice before bombing the smithereens out of a foreign capital.

This, comrades, can be counted progress.

The usual goons were in attendance. What a kerfuffle an American presidential creates. Outside, in the road off Whitehall and in the great court of the Foreign Office, I counted 24 Range Rovers, all of them pretty brand spanking new.

Before Messrs Brown and Obama entered the room where we had been cooped up for two hours, flunkeys and bit-part players came slinking in, David Miliband and Hillary Clinton among them. What an odd duo Mrs Clinton and the boy Milipede make. She looks like a mother taking her teenage son round a university campus on Open Day.

475 notutopia  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:12:04am

New Jobless Claims Jump Unexpectedly to 669,000

The number of people filing new jobless claims jumped unexpectedly last week, while those continuing to receive benefits hit a 10th straight record-high. Both figures show the labor market remains weak and is unlikely to recover anytime soon.


[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

How's this for Obama creating new jobs.
Just sickening.

476 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:12:41am

re: #459 Crux Australis

And it's time for bed. I have to get up early to run a few errands tomorrow.

Goodnight Crux, see you again soon

477 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:12:57am

re: #7 Fenway_Nation

Any other lizards getting the Amazon sidebar ad that's all 0bama books and DVDs?

yes. Charles doesn't control the ad, obviously. but it just goes to show that Obama pimping is everywhere.

478 3 wood  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:13:24am

re: #469 realwest

Hey thanks 3 wood - hope you're well and have a great day!

Yep, just real busy.

Got to run and I'll email you later.

479 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:13:40am

re: #456 ciaospirit

More of the same lunacy using our money. Why fast track it? Is it racist to ask for a plan first?

I think they have realized 2010 is not going to be a good year for them, so they are going for maximum damage as quickly as possible. Funny how fast things turn when you promise everything and deliver nothing.

480 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:13:49am

re: #463 Chicago Blonde

As for the newer batch of 20somethings, I think they look at geezers past 35 and think we should all just be dragged to Logan's Run.


Some do, without a doubt.

481 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:14:24am
482 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:14:49am

re: #462 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (61 degrees, BOOOMING all the way up to 62 degrees!) rainy and cloudy Charlotte!
Hope everyone is doing well today!

*Smooch* darls, and it's finally stopped raining here!

Warm and humid night, here in the Far Deep South :-)

483 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:15:27am

Phew! I'm blushing with all the updings this AM - thank you all! I have a cool karma-in-history number right now - 1066!

484 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:15:51am

re: #470 SasquatchOnSteroids

The fact that it's hard makes it all the more worthwhile. We sacrificed early to get to where we're at, but that is lost on the PS3 generation. They only see the end result, not what it took to get there. And they want it now...

I agree. I'll admit I don't enjoy sacrificing but I'll do it. I'm angry about having to bail out people who knowingly bought too much house. I spent 9 years in a starter home in a scary area and I hated it, but it didn't kill me. Won't kill them either.

485 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:16:25am

re: #475 notutopia

New Jobless Claims Jump Unexpectedly to 669,000

The number of people filing new jobless claims jumped unexpectedly last week, while those continuing to receive benefits hit a 10th straight record-high. Both figures show the labor market remains weak and is unlikely to recover anytime soon.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

How's this for Obama creating new jobs.
Just sickening.

A plant near me tossed out 650 employees yesterday. I think their plant in GA closed altogether, as well. (Exide)

486 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:17:18am

Meanwhile, the tabloids are all abuzz,

When Michelle hugged Betty

America's First Lady Michelle Obama broke royal protocol during a reception at Buckingham Palace when she placed her arm around the Queen.

But rather than take offence, Her Majesty took the unusual step of returning the gesture by putting her arm round Mrs Obama's waist - almost as if to confirm the special relationship the politicians are so keen to play up.

The extraordinary scenes took place yesterday as Barack Obama made his first visit to Britain as U.S. President.

According to eyewitnesses, the exchange occurred as the Queen was waiting in the Throne Room following the official group picture with the national leaders here for the G20 Summit.

One said: 'There was a bit of a bottleneck as all of the leaders filed out so the Queen started chatting to Michelle Obama. She appeared to look up at her and make a comment about how tall she was.

'As she did, she put her arm around Mrs Obama and rested her gloved hand on the small of her back.' Almost simultaneously, Mrs Obama put her arm around the Queen's shoulders rather more firmly. 'The pair then looked at their feet and appeared to be discussing their shoes.

'The Queen then dropped her arm and, a few seconds later, Michelle did the same. The entire exchange lasted around eight to ten seconds but was absolutely extraordinary.'

No-one - including the ladies-in-waiting standing nearby - could believe their eyes. In 57 years, the Queen has never been seen to make that kind of gesture and it is certainly against all protocol to touch her.

'But she didn't seem to mind a bit and was smiling and joking throughout,' the eyewitness said.

487 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:17:26am
488 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:17:35am

re: #467 J.D.

And what does that tell you, grasshopper?

That the Obama Administration will double down and demand a peace conference? /wish I were kidding, but you know that's going to be in the cards before long.

489 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:18:08am

re: #482 aussiemagpie
Hey {aussie} *smooch* back to you - sorry you've got such "interesting" weather - our humidity is coming down by the bucketful! LOL!
How are ya this morning?

490 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:19:15am

re: #444 Wishing

Obama, you are my chia pet!

that thing is so disgusting.
i bet some people would buy his gilded excrement.
and put it on the coffee table as a center piece.

491 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:19:20am

re: #474 Kenneth

Mr Obama had managed to make Mr Brown look good. Another amazing achievement.


Same reason they Mick Jagger has kept Keith Richards around all this time.

492 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:19:28am

re: #489 realwest

Hey {aussie} *smooch* back to you - sorry you've got such "interesting" weather - our humidity is coming down by the bucketful! LOL!
How are ya this morning?

Always be thankful for the rain.
..recovering from drought here.

493 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:19:56am

re: #490 nyc redneck

that thing is so disgusting.
i bet some people would buy his gilded excrement.
and put it on the coffee table as a center piece.

Nah, they wouldn't gild it.

494 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:20:08am

Good morning all.

495 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:20:14am

re: #486 Kenneth

Meanwhile, the tabloids are all abuzz,

When Michelle hugged Betty

Just goes to show the Queen has true class and Michelle doesn't. Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode when they talked about grace, Michelle wouldn't know it if she had a whole truckload of it dumped on her.

496 Killer Tomato  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:21:20am

Nice. The POTUS and his bunch of thugs.
Wall St. Journal online

The President is Keeping Score
By KARL ROVE
"Don't think we're not keeping score, brother." That's what President Barack Obama said to Rep. Peter DeFazio in a closed-door meeting of the House Democratic Caucus last week, according to the Associated Press.

So are we, Mr. Rove.

497 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:21:34am

re: #486 Kenneth Good morning Kenneth - must be that the WAB had just put on some deodorant or perfume!

498 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:22:11am

re: #487 Iron Fist

Hell, that's not looking so bad these days. I'd at least get a day off, a sort of minivacation into the afterlife :-)

LOL! Not me buddy, I love life and I hope my mom doesn't overhear the words I'll use if someone tells me I'm too old or not valuable enough to save.

When that horrible Oliphant cartoon came out, I was thinking about getting a Star of David to wear, as a "try coming for me, buddy!" gesture. With universal health care looming, I'm getting a Chai sign and killing 2 birds with 1 stone.

499 KenJen  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:23:19am

re: #490 nyc redneck

that thing is so disgusting.
i bet some people would buy his gilded excrement.
and put it on the coffee table as a center piece.

I've heard that the seed used in the chia pet are very nutritional.

500 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:23:46am

re: #481 Iron Fist

They bitch about contempt of court? I'd be willing to bet you that to a man (or woman or wymon, whatever :0-) they were behind Bill Clinton. Like sexual harassment, contempt of court is a crime that varies in severity based on the Party that the one doing the "crime" belongs to.

Republicans == Awful, terrible, deserving of long jail sentence

Democrats == Problem? What problem? These are not the droids you are looking for...


Really, ice, snow, cold weather, liberals. Except for the beautiful landscape there is no good reason to live here. The local news was reporting they weren't sure if she was living in public housing or not, how hard is it to call the Housing Authority and find out. They know what unit she was in. Journalism really is dead.

501 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:23:55am

re: #489 realwest

Hey {aussie} *smooch* back to you - sorry you've got such "interesting" weather - our humidity is coming down by the bucketful! LOL!
How are ya this morning?

All is well here, how about you? Your back any better?

Julie is a bit crook though, and we're hoping it's not more of the same
She had blood tests, with results back later today
After two years of no hospital admissions, she's a bit worried now that she's having a relapse

502 godfrey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:24:42am

A fricking iPod... loaded with his own speeches!

What a complete horse's ass.

503 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:25:16am

re: #490 nyc redneck

that thing is so disgusting.
i bet some people would buy his gilded excrement.
and put it on the coffee table as a center piece.


Now, now nyc redneck - y'all have to admit he looks BETTER with green hair than with his normal (am I gray today or not) hair or no hair at all! LOL!
How are you doing today?

504 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:25:20am

re: #491 J.D.

Same reason Mick Jagger has kept Keith Richards around all this time.

Keith makes Mick look sober?

Some tabloid wag wrote that Brown was grinning like a bookworm schoolboy who has finally been invited to the cool kids' party.

505 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:25:50am

WARD!

506 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:25:58am

My great fear is that we "Balkanize" ourselves in the USA. The "Melting Pot" made us great. The "Salad Bowl" does not. It emphasizes our differences instead of binding us together as the Melting Pot did.

507 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:26:01am
508 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:26:01am

re: #499 KenJen

I've heard that the seed used in the chia pet are very nutritional.

indeed they are,
but can you imagine the puke factor of pulling the sprouts off
of o's head and putting them on your sandwich.
gag

509 Killer Tomato  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:26:05am

re: #500 soxfan4life

She had a job working for the City of Boston, too.

510 Lincolntf  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:26:37am

re: #502 godfrey

Morning all.
Did that Ipod story turn out to be NOT an A-F-Day hoax?

511 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:26:57am

re: #504 Kenneth

Some tabloid wag wrote that Brown was grinning like a bookworm schoolboy who has finally been invited to the cool kids' party.

That's what's happening to our culture - we're being "cooled" to death.

512 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:27:23am
513 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:27:43am

re: #492 Wishing Good morning Wishing! Where is he hear that y'all are suffering from a drought? And let's not be catty now, they may not gild it, but they would certainly bronze it!

514 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:27:51am

re: #488 lawhawk

That the Obama Administration will double down and demand a peace conference? /wish I were kidding, but you know that's going to be in the cards before long.

I imagine Richard Holbrooke already has that in the works.

Did you know he was on AIG's board?

515 godfrey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:28:04am

re: #510 Lincolntf

This isn't evidence it isn't a hoax, but AP, CNN, LaTimes, etc. all carried the story.

516 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:28:10am

re: #503 realwest

Morning (((Realwest)))!

517 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:29:08am

re: #513 realwest

Good morning Wishing! Where is he hear that y'all are suffering from a drought? And let's not be catty now, they may not gild it, but they would certainly bronze it!

LOL nope, they would take it as is and plop it (forgive me!) right on the coffee table!
And yes, TN has been in a terrible drought the last few years. We are hoping to recover SOME this year. Thank God for rain!

518 KenJen  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:29:16am

re: #510 Lincolntf

Morning all.
Did that Ipod story turn out to be NOT an A-F-Day hoax?


It's not a hoax but, it did make Obama look like a total joke.

519 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:29:25am

re: #513 realwest

Good morning Wishing! Where is he hear that y'all are suffering from a drought? And let's not be catty now, they may not gild it, but they would certainly bronze it!

Well now that Mythbusters proved you could, they would polish it every day like they did him leading up to his election.

520 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:29:43am
521 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:29:45am

re: #497 realwest

Who knows? What is remarkable is that the Queen put her hand on Michelle in return. A few years ago some visiting head of state reached out like he was going to hug her and she stepped back & turned away. Protocol says you don't touch the Queen, but if she hugs you I guess it's ok.

522 VioletTiger  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:30:06am

Morning friends. We are talking about Obama and IPODs and Chia pets, oh my?

523 Lincolntf  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:30:12am

re: #515 godfrey

Oh jeez. I don't even want to know if it wasn't a hoax. I'm going to cling to the hope that it was.

524 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:30:18am

How do you make money off of YouTube? This Dallas ninth-grader, Carlita, knows:

Ad program helps Dallas student profit from YouTube videos

Her first monthly check (last September) was $365.56.

525 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:30:20am

{realwest}

526 godfrey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:30:39am

UPI:

The New York Times reported that a White House aide said the first family gave the queen an iPod loaded with video and photos of her 2007 trip to the United States, as well as Broadway show tunes.

Classy.

527 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:31:01am

re: #502 godfrey

A fricking iPod... loaded with his own speeches!

What a complete horse's ass.

I heard it was video of her trip to the U.S. last year.

528 VioletTiger  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:31:03am

re: #521 Kenneth

Who knows? What is remarkable is that the Queen put her hand on Michelle in return. A few years ago some visiting head of state reached out like he was going to hug her and she stepped back & turned away. Protocol says you don't touch the Queen, but if she hugs you I guess it's ok.

I thought I heard that the Obama's studied protocol before they left. Why then the touchy touchy?

529 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:31:29am

J.D.!

530 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:31:31am

re: #526 godfrey

Here's another link on the story.
iPod contents

531 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:32:07am

re: #526 godfrey

UPI:


Classy.

Don't forget his 2004 DNC keynote speech or his inaugural address.

532 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:32:51am

On Fox & Friends the other morning they were talking about protocol with the Queen. You briefly touch her hand (if offered) do not grip it or shake it. When eating with the Queen, when she puts her fork down, you do not continue eating, etc.

533 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:33:11am

re: #511 Chicago Blonde

Interesting observation. Gordon Brown really is a brainy bookworm, PhD in History, author of several books, but nobody ever accused him of having charisma.

I would take dull competence over empty flash in a politician any day!

534 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:33:55am

re: #532 redstateredneck

On Fox & Friends the other morning they were talking about protocol with the Queen. You briefly touch her hand (if offered) do not grip it or shake it. When eating with the Queen, when she puts her fork down, you do not continue eating, etc.

So how many of the rules did TOTUS and his Klingon Bride violate?

535 Gella  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:33:57am

good morning lizards :)

536 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:33:58am

re: #496 Killer Tomato
Good morning KT! from your link

Americans United is going after Democrats who are skeptical of Mr. Obama's plans to double the national debt in five years and nearly triple it in 10. The White House is taking aim at lawmakers in 12 states, including Democratic Sens. Kent Conrad, Ben Nelson, Mary Landrieu, Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor. MoveOn.Org is running ads aimed at 10 moderate Senate and House Democrats. And robocalls are urging voters in key districts to pressure their congressman to get in line.


Not only are we keeping track Brother Barry, but so is the RNC - and don't think we don't already have a list of folks who may not like your special brand of "persuassion" and if you lose your automatic majorities in the house or the Senate, y'all can kiss your hope and changey ass goodbye!

537 KenJen  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:34:07am

re: #531 soxfan4life

Don't forget his 2004 DNC keynote speech or his inaugural address.

I'm truely suprised that it didn't contain the audio version of "Dreams from my Father"

538 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:34:16am

re: #530 Chicago Blonde

Here's another link on the story.
iPod contents

The coffee table book by Rodgers & Hart was autographed by Richard Rodgers. Cha-ching!

539 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:34:20am

re: #534 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

So how many of the rules did TOTUS and his Klingon Bride violate?

God only knows.

540 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:34:28am

re: #530 Chicago Blonde

Were his TWO autobiographies included on there in pdf format?

541 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:34:56am

re: #503 realwest

hey {real}
i'm back in the city and doing great this morning.
now i can recover from all that hard work i did last wk.
how are you? do you have a place where you can garden?

542 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:35:20am

re: #524 Ward Cleaver

How do you make money off of YouTube? This Dallas ninth-grader, Carlita, knows:

Ad program helps Dallas student profit from YouTube videos

Her first monthly check (last September) was $365.56.

Excellent !
Good for her.

543 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:35:20am

re: #528 VioletTiger

That they were told protocol doesn't mean they remembered it. In the heat of the moment people return to habits. In US politics, it is a given you touch people you want to influence.

544 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:35:22am

re: #533 Kenneth

545 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:35:26am

re: #535 Gella

Morning. That's a cool avatar.

546 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:35:28am

re: #496 Killer Tomato

Nice. The POTUS and his bunch of thugs.
Wall St. Journal online

So are we, Mr. Rove.

Digital brownshirts!

/thanks for that one, al gore!

547 Gella  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:35:48am

re: #545 rightside

Morning. That's a cool avatar.

Thanks :)

548 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:35:56am

re: #504 Kenneth

Keith makes Mick look sober?

Some tabloid wag wrote that Brown was grinning like a bookworm schoolboy who has finally been invited to the cool kids' party.

You don't think Keith makes Mick look at least a little bit sober?

I have heard many Brits who complained about Tony Blair, but as far as a transatlantic alliance partner is concerned, I really liked him. If I had him at home, though, probably not so much...

549 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:35:57am

re: #498 Chicago Blonde
Hey there Blondie - I like the Star of David idea, especially if it's accompanied by a snub nosed .38 in your handbag or coat pocket!

550 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:36:37am

re: #542 SasquatchOnSteroids

Excellent !
Good for her.

Isn't it cool? They wouldn't give her last name in the story, because they don't want her fans to figure out where she lives. Looks like her college education is paid for.

551 godfrey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:36:40am

re: #538 Ward Cleaver

Does HRH love Broadway tunes? If so, fine. If this is out of the blue, what kind of crack is the WH protocol office smoking?

552 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:36:55am

re: #507 Iron Fist

It was murdered by Walter Cronkite during the Tet offensive. It's just been rotting since then.

It is beyond ripened.

553 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:37:39am

So, apparently Obama never realized that the State Department has an office of protocol to handle such things as appropriate gifts, etc.?

I call BS. Anyone with a frakking computer and Google can pull up the office simply entering the terms White House protocol. It's the first option to come up. You click on it and all of a sudden you find yourself on the State Department website (a part of the Executive Branch, and headed up by Sec. State. Hillary Clinton, who apparently had issues with protocol herself). These people aren't ignorant that the protocol office existed. They're incompetent to not use it.

554 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:37:41am

re: #532 redstateredneck

On Fox & Friends the other morning they were talking about protocol with the Queen. You briefly touch her hand (if offered) do not grip it or shake it. When eating with the Queen, when she puts her fork down, you do not continue eating, etc.

Those must've been some good waffles.

555 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:37:53am

re: #501 aussiemagpie
Ah geez {aussie} - I'm sorry to hear that - please give Julie a hug and a *smooch* on the cheek from me - prayers and best wishes going up for her and for you.

556 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:38:13am
557 godfrey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:38:22am

The iPod thing is still hilarious. GWB gave the Queen all sorts of beautiful things, and Obama & Co. gave her ... a mix tape.

They must be having a field day over there.

558 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:38:25am

re: #513 realwest

Good morning Wishing! Where is he hear that y'all are suffering from a drought? And let's not be catty now, they may not gild it, but they would certainly bronze it!

I fear you may misunderestimate them.

559 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:38:41am

re: #551 godfrey

Does HRH love Broadway tunes? If so, fine. If this is out of the blue, what kind of crack is the WH protocol office smoking?

I imagine they did a little research this time, after the DVD snafu.

560 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:38:54am
561 Gella  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:38:56am

re: #553 lawhawk

So, apparently Obama never realized that the State Department has an office of protocol to handle such things as appropriate gifts, etc.?

I call BS. Anyone with a frakking computer and Google can pull up the office simply entering the terms White House protocol. It's the first option to come up. You click on it and all of a sudden you find yourself on the State Department website (a part of the Executive Branch, and headed up by Sec. State. Hillary Clinton, who apparently had issues with protocol herself). These people aren't ignorant that the protocol office existed. They're incompetent to not use it.

question is does know how to use a computer or ever heard of google?
according to him no

562 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:38:59am

re: #534 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

So how many of the rules did TOTUS and his Klingon Bride violate?

The attempt to chest-thump Her Majesty was way out of line, IMHO.

563 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:39:05am

re: #549 realwest

Ha! :) Walk softly but carry a little snub nose, huh?

I don't have anything like that - silly as it may sound, they spook me (but I support the 2nd Amendment).

I do want a Chai sign though. After Lent I'll go shopping.

564 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:39:10am

re: #553 lawhawk

Failure to use the Protocol Office isn't the only thing making the 0bama's incompetent.

565 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:39:17am

re: #501 aussiemagpie

{aussie} So sorry to hear that Julie is sick again. Prayers for her speedy recovery.

566 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:39:37am

re: #557 godfrey

The iPod thing is still hilarious. GWB gave the Queen all sorts of beautiful things, and Obama & Co. gave her ... a mix tape.

They must be having a field day over there.

Hey, it could have been loaded with gangsta rap.

567 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:39:46am

re: #521 Kenneth

Well, they are "cool" and all, you know.
And then there are the bonus points for...

568 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:40:32am

re: #556 Iron Fist

I wouldn't give such deference to all the kings and queens of the world. I'm not saying I'd whip it out and piss all over her royal boots, but I wouldn't treat her as anything but an equal. I'm an American. We don't have any royalty. That's the way it was set up.

Yeah, but when in Rome...or London as the case may be!

569 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:40:41am

re: #536 realwest

Good morning KT! from your link


Not only are we keeping track Brother Barry, but so is the RNC - and don't think we don't already have a list of folks who may not like your special brand of "persuassion" and if you lose your automatic majorities in the house or the Senate, y'all can kiss your hope and changey ass goodbye!


Hmmm, Barry is acting like the Community Organizer, Chicago Street Hustler that he is. Who knew?

570 KenJen  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:41:08am

re: #553 lawhawk

I think they are just arrogant. Why should Obama and Michelle have to follow protocol? They won after all. They make the rules now. That's the vibe I'm getting.

571 VioletTiger  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:41:50am

re: #557 godfrey

The iPod thing is still hilarious. GWB gave the Queen all sorts of beautiful things, and Obama & Co. gave her ... a mix tape.

They must be having a field day over there.

One of my coworkers from England was over on this side of the pond visiting the Mother Ship and we got to the topic of the DVD gift. It was in every single paper and news-media. It was a huge gaff in their minds.
I have to agree. It goes without saying that anything you can pick up at Walmart or a gift shop is not an appropriate gift for a head of state.

572 Golem Akbar  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:42:05am

Good morning, kalimera and boker tov, Lizards. It's Spring in LA.

573 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:42:12am

re: #561 Gella

question is does know how to use a computer or ever heard of google?
according to him no

But he can't live without his crackberry.

574 godfrey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:42:20am

re: #566 Ward Cleaver

Surely the iPod was the lesser of the two (the Queen already has one, and I'm sure her trip was well-documented). No, the real gift was the autographed coffee table book of show tunes.

Feels random. They're clueless.

575 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:42:34am

re: #548 J.D.

Interesting history between Blair & Brown, they go back a long way. Brown was the dull introverted intellectual, Blair was the outgoing charmer.

It was good to see Blair giving such strong support to the US after 9-11, but any UK PM would have done the same. The "special relationship" is vital to Britain in that it allows them to leverage their influence in Europe and stand up to France & Germany.

576 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:43:27am

re: #533 Kenneth

I'm sorry - my mouse died on me. :)

I agree, dull competence over empty charisma any day. When I see people posting on blogs they can't wait to vote for Obama because he looks so cool in his Ray-Bans, it makes me want to cry.

577 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:43:48am

re: #524 Ward Cleaver

How do you make money off of YouTube? This Dallas ninth-grader, Carlita, knows:

Ad program helps Dallas student profit from YouTube videos

Her first monthly check (last September) was $365.56.

Good for her!

5 Yr Old's First Job

Here's a truly heartwarming story about the bond formed between a little 5-year-old girl and some construction workers that will make you believe that we all can make a difference when we give a child the gift of our time.

A young family moved into a house, next to a vacant lot. One day, a construction crew began to build a house on the empty lot. The young family's 5-year-old daughter naturally took an interest in the goings-on and spent much of each day observing the workers.

Eventually the construction crew, all of them 'gems-in-the-rough,' more or less, adopted her as a kind of project mascot. They chatted with her during coffee and lunch breaks and gave her little jobs to do here and there to make her feel important. At the end of the first week, they even presented her with a pay envelope containing ten dollars. The little girl took this home to her mother who suggested that she take her ten dollars 'pay' she'd received to
the bank the next day to start a savings account.

When the girl and her mom got to the bank, the teller was equally impressed and asked the little girl how she had come by her very own pay check at such a young age. The little girl proudly replied, 'I worked last week with a real construction crew building the new house next door to us.'

'Oh my goodness gracious,' said the teller, 'and will you be working on the house again this week, too?'

The little girl replied, 'I will, if those assholes at Home Depot ever deliver the fucking sheet rock.'

Kind of brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it?

578 Gella  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:44:20am

re: #573 redstateredneck

But he can't live without his crackberry.

hypocrisy?

579 VioletTiger  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:44:22am

re: #576 Chicago Blonde

I'm sorry - my mouse died on me. :)
.


It wasn't the cat, was it?

580 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:44:36am

re: #576 Chicago Blonde

Did you give it the proper burial under your mouse pad?

581 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:44:58am

re: #555 realwest

Ah geez {aussie} - I'm sorry to hear that - please give Julie a hug and a *smooch* on the cheek from me - prayers and best wishes going up for her and for you.

Thank you so much, and she will really appreciate your hugs,and smooches :-)

582 newmelleman  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:45:03am

How long until BHO simply falls back on the ubiquitous gift card (Wal Mart, Best Buy, etc) for foreign dignitaries?

583 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:45:09am

re: #578 Gella

hypocrisy?

Speaking of the crackberry, didn't I read or hear on the news that it rang during the reception...he didn't even mute the mofo!

584 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:45:41am

re: #530 Chicago Blonde

Here's another link on the story.
iPod contents

"Once in Love with Amy (Where's Charley?)," Ray Bolger


Didn't Ray Bolger also do "If I Only Had a Brain"?

585 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:46:08am

re: #582 newmelleman

How long until BHO simply falls back on the ubiquitous gift card (Wal Mart, Best Buy, etc) for foreign dignitaries?

{NMM}! How 'bout some MacDonald gift cards?

586 lifeofthemind  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:46:17am
Happiness is good health and a bad memory.

— Ingrid Bergman

Any man who says that he can do at 50 what he claimed he was doing at 15 is lying now as he was lying then.

- lifeofthemind

587 Lively  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:46:17am

re: #474 Kenneth

Good morning folks.

If you need a morning chuckle (and these days, who doesn't?), do yourself a favour and read Quentin Letts' column in the Daily Mail:

Obama told a joke and Brown laughed... and laughed... and laughed... and laughed

Is there a link to a video anywhere? I looked on youtube and google and couldn't find one. I love to see it, lol.

588 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:46:47am

Go ahead, I dare you to, barry.


SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea's military on Thursday threatened immediate retaliation if "even the slightest effort" is made to intercept a long-range rocket it has begun fueling and that it plans to launch in the next few days.

President Barack Obama warned the liftoff would be a "provocative act" that would generate a U.N. Security Council response, but North Korea's military threatened those who opposed the launch with a "thunderbolt of fire" if they interfered.

Oh Noes! not the dreaded UN security council reponse!

589 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:47:25am

re: #570 KenJen

I think they are just arrogant. Why should Obama and Michelle have to follow protocol? They won after all. They make the rules now. That's the vibe I'm getting.

Ace nails it. Obama gets a piece of history with significant relevance. Obama gives the Queen a mix tape of his Best ofs.

590 newmelleman  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:47:40am

{rsrn}!

...thanks, now I've got that filet-o-fish song looping through my head!

591 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:47:42am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

After another perishing morning, where I was cursing the weather forecasters again, its now at least sunny, albeit still colder than predicted.

Anybody interested in WAB fashion?

I'll get the photos ...

:-)))

592 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:48:01am

re: #556 Iron Fist

The Queen is more of a symbol than an actual person. As a person, yes she is equal to anybody else. But as a symbol of British history, culture, state, traditions, institutions and honour, she is very important. Compare her to the US flag. Americans show great respect and honor to their flag. It's not just another sheet of cloth. When a visitor respects royal protocol, they are showing respect to all of the United Kingdom, not just to Mrs. Betty Windsor.

593 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:48:05am

re: #565 redstateredneck

{aussie} So sorry to hear that Julie is sick again. Prayers for her speedy recovery.

Hello {redstateredneck} and thanks so much!

She's got so used to not having to be in hospital, so she's a bit scared about ending up there again

594 KenJen  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:48:18am

I heard that Michelle gave the Queen a ped egg as an early Easter gift.

595 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:48:26am

re: #589 lawhawk

Ace nails it. Obama gets a piece of history with significant relevance. Obama gives the Queen a mix tape of his Best ofs.

Boo, boo.

596 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:48:46am

re: #537 KenJen

I'm truely suprised that it didn't contain the audio version of "Dreams from my Father"

I think that and an Obama Chia are probably on a list somewhere; the question is where and when.

597 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:48:47am

re: #576 Chicago Blonde

Amen.

598 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:48:54am

re: #579 VioletTiger

re: #580 rightside

No cat - mine are being lazy things and sleeping on the couch. It was the batteries, and they're going to be recharged soon.

599 Lively  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:49:02am

re: #269 3 wood

Good morning.

Look for the market to open up sharply as the futures are all up by about 2% at the moment.

The reason why is a little complicated. First, the market has been so far down for so long that a lot of the money standing on the sidelines is starting to get a bit eager to get back in the market Second, there is a growing sense that the market and the economy has leveled out. Third, "mark to market" is likely to be altered by FASB within the next day or so, and that will free up a lot of bank capital and reduce the "toxic asset" problem significantly, and it will be retroactive to january 1st.

Market already up. You are good.

600 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:49:22am

re: #591 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

After another perishing morning, where I was cursing the weather forecasters again, its now at least sunny, albeit still colder than predicted.

Anybody interested in WAB fashion?

I'll get the photos ...

:-)))

Buck up, Yma. We just had 6 inches of snow over night and we are due for a foot of snow on Friday night.

Spring time in the Rockies.

601 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:49:39am

re: #590 newmelleman

{rsrn}!

...thanks, now I've got that filet-o-fish song looping through my head!

re: #591 yma o hyd

How about "two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun"?

602 Wishing  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:49:50am

Time for sleep.
Laterz, lizardz.

603 Lively  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:49:58am

re: #594 KenJen

I heard that Michelle gave the Queen a ped egg as an early Easter gift.

They also have them available for dogs, too.
/yuk

604 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:50:04am

re: #594 KenJen

I heard that Michelle gave the Queen a ped egg as an early Easter gift.

Don't know about that, but she gives me a head egg every time she opens her yap

605 Killer Tomato  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:50:05am

re: #536 realwest

Morning real!
(they keep interrupting me with work, what's up with that?)

606 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:50:05am
Anybody interested in WAB fashion?


No thanks, I get the J Crew catalog.

607 Lively  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:50:52am

re: #606 redstateredneck

No thanks, I get the J Crew catalog.


Do they commission coats for your kids too?

608 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:51:06am

re: #606 redstateredneck

Anything like J Peterman?

609 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:51:18am

A Palestinian attacker wielding an axe has killed an Israeli boy and wounded another in a Jewish settlement in the West Bank, police say.

Monsters.

610 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:51:49am

re: #506 _RememberTonyC
Whatcha mean "we"?!? Take a look at the 2008 Presidential map - most every state that voted for Obama is a coastal or New England state - you know, those states that have some way to get food and stuff to their states without using those mean ole trucks - at least not until the ships dock.
And I'm not joking - all this bullshit about alternative energy (that so far hasn't demonstrated ANY ability to replace fossil fuels for the masses), dramatically reduces the ability of red state folks to heat their homes, get to and from work etc. etc. We lost our ability to be a melting pot when Al Gore not only challenged the results in the Democratic counties in Florida in the SCOTUS - thereby becoming iirc the only presidential candidate to ever do so - but also lost his HOME STATE of Tenn. If he had won the state where the voters know him best, we'd a had President Gore for 9/11/ 2001 and the World would still love us cause we wouldn't have done a damn thing.
And the Republicans NEVER tried anything as ridiculous as having the Federal Government - so WELL KNOWN for it's successes in everything except WAR- decide what management level personnel will get as income, and the performance evaluation of such people. So as I said last night, when the local bank branch managers don't get a raise or bonuse and don't therefore buy a new home or new car or whatever, when the lower level but still "management class" folks on Wall Street, USA are put in the same boat, then MAYBE the mofo voters in some of the Blue States will rediscover that SOCIALISM has never worked well anywhere for any length of time.
Mixing bowl? Nope the Dems are playing Class Warfare and are THEY gonna be surprised when it turns around and bite's 'em on the ass.

611 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:52:03am

re: #601 redstateredneck

Something went terribly wrong with my post. More coffee!

612 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:52:13am

re: #570 KenJen

I think they are just arrogant. Why should Obama and Michelle have to follow protocol? They won after all. They make the rules now. That's the vibe I'm getting.

That is exactly what I came up with yesterday.

613 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:52:36am

re: #609 Kenneth

A Palestinian attacker wielding an axe has killed an Israeli boy and wounded another in a Jewish settlement in the West Bank, police say.

Monsters.


Damn it! The scum got away.

614 Golem Akbar  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:52:44am

re: #584 J.D.

Didn't Ray Bolger also do "If I Only Had a Brain"?

Obama is the Metrosexual in Chief, I guess...

615 lifeofthemind  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:53:12am

re: #591 yma o hyd

Anybody interested in WAB fashion?

I found out where she gets her stuff.
Image: 005-001-1.jpg

616 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:53:30am

All you Lizards, look away - now!

Lizardesses - what do you think:

Morning visit to 10 Downing Street

Dinner at 10 Downing Street

The other lady is Mrs Brown - and the dinner was for all the G20 spouses.

You go first ...

:-)))

617 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:53:30am

re: #572 Golem Akbar

Good morning, kalimera and boker tov, Lizards. It's Spring in LA.

Are those blue trees blooming yet?
What are those called?
Now those are cool looking.

618 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:53:31am

re: #608 rightside

Anything like J Peterman?

The models are all so skinny I usually just pitch it in the trash.

619 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:53:45am

re: #592 Kenneth

The Queen is more of a symbol than an actual person. As a person, yes she is equal to anybody else. But as a symbol of British history, culture, state, traditions, institutions and honour, she is very important. Compare her to the US flag. Americans show great respect and honor to their flag. It's not just another sheet of cloth. When a visitor respects royal protocol, they are showing respect to all of the United Kingdom, not just to Mrs. Betty Windsor.

michelle and that chip on her shoulder were not going to see the queen of england
(and what she represents) as anyone but betty windsor.

620 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:53:51am

So where has Biden been at these past few months? Still wandering the streets of Wilmington looking for Katie's Restaurant?

621 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:54:25am

re: #618 redstateredneck

The models are all so skinny I usually just pitch it in the trash.

I always wondered why models can't or won't smile. Hey, if I couldn't eat I wouldn't smile either!

622 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:54:26am

re: #525 J.D.
{J.S.} - Hi there J.D.! Hope you're well today?!

623 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:54:41am

Very excited that the DREAM Act is back in place...

Just heard on FNC that fuel trucks are movning to the launcgh pad in N Korea...

Ooooh... If launch occurs, it seems that we're going to go to the UN Security Council...

We're so fucking dead...

624 godfrey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:54:58am

re: #571 VioletTiger

hi VT

Yes, the gifts so far are pretty much tone-deaf. This, from a Harvard guy? Where's the intelligence in these gifts? Where's the stature? So far, I don't think it's too far to say that they've been degrading.

Now I have nothing really against Rodgers & Hart and American film, but as gifts to a head of state? Ridiculous. For perspective, here is what W's administration gave HRH:

President and Mrs. Bush gave The Prince Philip an exclusive sterling silver eagle box by Tiffany & Co. with personal inscription on the inside lid.

President and Mrs. Bush gave Their Majesties a leather presentation box filled with a collection of documents from the National Archives. One of the items was a copy of an original letter from President Roosevelt to her father, King George, written in 1938. There were also photos from previous royal visits and a DVD of the footage from the Queen’s visit to the United States when she was Princess Elizabeth in 1951.

President and Mrs. Bush gave Her Majesty a bronze statuette “High Desert Princess” with a personal inscription on the bottom of the base. It is a replica of the original life size statue that is located in front of the National Cowgirl Museum and Hall of Fame in Ft. Worth, Texas.

Any questions?

625 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:55:15am

re: #575 Kenneth

The "special relationship" is vital to Britain in that it allows them to leverage their influence in Europe and stand up to France & Germany.


Yes.

626 Golem Akbar  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:55:24am

re: #617 J.D.

Are those blue trees blooming yet?
What are those called?
Now those are cool looking.

Everything is in bloom. It's sinus hell for those suffering allergies. For the rest of us, it's very cool.

627 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:55:47am

re: #587 Lively

Here's a link to the BBC page with several videos... I haven't found the Brown-Obama presser in it. But you can see one of Obama sucking up to Brazillian President Lulu

628 VioletTiger  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:55:56am

re: #616 yma o hyd
She needs a visit from that lady on What Not to Wear. The stuff is all wrong for her figure and the occasion.

629 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:56:02am

re: #600 Walter L. Newton

Buck up, Yma. We just had 6 inches of snow over night and we are due for a foot of snow on Friday night.

Spring time in the Rockies.

So I take it that this means you're hard at work, shovelling snow - and couldn't give a toss about how Michelle looked?

I mean, you couldn't possibly hint, could you, that I might be just a leeettle bit whingey about our weather?

;-)

630 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:56:07am

re: #620 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So where has Biden been at these past few months? Still wandering the streets of Wilmington looking for Katie's Restaurant?

LOL. They sell maps at 7-eleven, don't they ?

631 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:56:19am

re: #616 yma o hyd

All you Lizards, look away - now!

Lizardesses - what do you think:

Morning visit to 10 Downing Street

Dinner at 10 Downing Street

The other lady is Mrs Brown - and the dinner was for all the G20 spouses.

You go first ...

:-)))

EEEW and EEEW! That's the best our tax dollars could get?!?

632 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:56:27am

re: #582 newmelleman

How long until BHO simply falls back on the ubiquitous gift card (Wal Mart, Best Buy, etc) for foreign dignitaries?

LOL!

633 newmelleman  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:56:28am

re: #615 lifeofthemind

I found out where she gets her stuff.
[Link: gslisfs1.simmons.edu...]

OK. I am the absolute last person with any credentials to make fashion comments but...I recently saw a picture of the first lady. She was pictured along side several other women (the G20 wives club?). It looked really out of place that she was the only one with bare arms.

634 KenJen  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:56:52am

re: #603 Lively

Hands down it is the most disgusting commercial out there. I dont like feet. When they show that old lady scrapping her feet in what looks like a kitchen I get ill. Then they show someone opening the ped egg and dumping the contents into the garbage. eeeeeewwww!

635 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:56:56am

re: #619 nyc redneck

michelle and that chip on her shoulder were not going to see the queen of england
(and what she represents) as anyone but betty windsor.

Did Michelle try to shake the Queen down for some Royal Bling? You know reparations & all.

636 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:57:33am

re: #633 newmelleman

But they look so fabulous, befitting of the first lady, doncha know!

637 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:57:35am

For a truly American gift, they should consider the vintage Horny Toad.

638 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:57:44am

re: #589 lawhawk

Obama would have done well to give the Queen something made out of a part of a Liberty Ship, as the Brits had given him something made from a British warship which chased slavers.

639 Lively  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:57:49am

re: #627 Kenneth

Here's a link to the BBC page with several videos... I haven't found the Brown-Obama presser in it. But you can see one of Obama sucking up to Brazillian President Lulu

Ugh! He reminds me of Eddy Haskel off Leave it to Beaver!
/thanks for the link.

640 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:57:53am

re: #585 redstateredneck

{NMM}! How 'bout some MacDonald gift cards?

You'd have to throw in a Kentucky Fried Chicken one.
She visits Lexington...the horses and all...

641 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:58:20am

re: #629 yma o hyd

So I take it that this means you're hard at work, shovelling snow - and couldn't give a toss about how Michelle looked?

I mean, you couldn't possibly hint, could you, that I might be just a leeettle bit whingey about our weather?

;-)

I live in a flat. The landlord does the shoveling. But, no, I don't care about Michelle.

"Whingey," obviously slang, translate (or does it translate to what it sounds like, flighty, batty?)

642 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:58:22am

re: #634 KenJen

Hands down it is the most disgusting commercial out there. I dont like feet. When they show that old lady scrapping her feet in what looks like a kitchen I get ill. Then they show someone opening the ped egg and dumping the contents into the garbage. eeeeeewwww!

I just go to the nail salon and have them use that potato peeler thing on me.

643 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:58:29am

And on that note - I need to get going.

Have a scaly day all, and I'll be back later if I can.

644 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:58:31am

re: #634 KenJen

You don't like feet? Then this commercial is for you...

645 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:58:34am

re: #633 newmelleman

OK. I am the absolute last person with any credentials to make fashion comments but...I recently saw a picture of the first lady. She was pictured along side several other women (the G20 wives club?). It looked really out of place that she was the only one with bare arms.

that chip on her shoulder needs the room, sleeves are so restricting.

646 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:58:42am

re: #625 J.D.

Yes.

Hiya, {J.D.} - any news of your friend's son?

647 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:58:48am

re: #541 nyc redneck
Hey there - no I don't have a place where I can garden, which is a GOOD THING cause I have a very BLACK THUMB when it comes to growing plants and all!

And I'm doing ok, thankew! but do have a LOT of chores to do today, starting in about 15 minutes with a trip to the Dentist.

Oh. Joy.

648 Gella  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:58:48am

QUEEN IPOD LOADED WITH OBAMA SPEECHES
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]
President and First Lady Obama gave Her Royal Highness Queen Elizabeth II a video iPod with inscription, songs uploaded and accessories, plus a rare musical songbook signed by Richard Rodgers.

Uploaded onto the iPod:

* Photos from the Queen's 2007 White House State Visit
* Photos from the Queen's 2007 Jamestown, Va., Visit
* Photos from the Queen's 2007 Richmond, Va., Visit
* Video from the Queen's 1957 Jamestown Visit
* Video from the Queen's 2007 Jamestown Visit
* Video from the Queen's 2007 Richmond Visit
* Photos from President Obama's Inauguration
* Audio of then-state senator Obama's speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, and
* Audio of President Obama 2009 Inauguration Address

Britain's Press Association reports that the Royal couple gave the Obamas "a silver-framed, signed photograph of themselves."

649 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:58:56am

re: #623 tfc3rid

Very excited that the DREAM Act is back in place...

Just heard on FNC that fuel trucks are movning to the launcgh pad in N Korea...

Ooooh... If launch occurs, it seems that we're going to go to the UN Security Council...

We're so fucking dead...

We will bribe them with cash as usual. Lil Kim knows this. If they can actually fire the thing without it dropping back on the pad, he will have lots of leverage.

650 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:59:09am

re: #617 J.D.

Jackaranda trees, though I don't know if I am spelling it correctly.

651 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:59:12am

re: #639 Lively

Oh wow, does that date you! And me too, since I know exactly what you mean.

652 Lively  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 6:59:58am

re: #634 KenJen

Hands down it is the most disgusting commercial out there. I dont like feet. When they show that old lady scrapping her feet in what looks like a kitchen I get ill. Then they show someone opening the ped egg and dumping the contents into the garbage. eeeeeewwww!


LOL! I don't watch tv so I've never seen the commercial. But my daughter has complained about that particular commercial before.

653 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:00:02am

re: #609 Kenneth

A Palestinian attacker wielding an axe has killed an Israeli boy and wounded another in a Jewish settlement in the West Bank, police say.

Monsters.

Well, the rest of the world would rather continue calling them partners for peace.

654 lifeofthemind  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:00:08am

re: #620 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So where has Biden been at these past few months? Still wandering the streets of Wilmington looking for Katie's Restaurant?

Found it
Image: maximum-security-prison.jpg

655 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:00:17am

re: #637 redstateredneck

For a truly American gift, they should consider the vintage Horny Toad.

Maybe a Jackalope instead?

656 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:00:43am

re: #589 lawhawk

Ace nails it. Obama gets a piece of history with significant relevance. Obama gives the Queen a mix tape of his Best ofs.

Wow.
You didn't mean to do that link here.

I suppose it's good and all, but I still cringe when I happen to glance at the clock and it says 9:11.

657 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:01:01am

re: #638 Ojoe

Indeed. That would have been appropriate.

658 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:01:07am

US Intel folks are saying that fueling has begun... Launch might take place Saturday overnight...

659 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:01:14am

re: #592 Kenneth

I'd agree with all that.

660 godfrey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:01:19am

re: #653 lawhawk

*shaking with revulsion and rage*

And people wonder...

661 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:01:22am

re: #628 VioletTiger

She needs a visit from that lady on What Not to Wear. The stuff is all wrong for her figure and the occasion.

Isn't it just!
Thats no way of wearing a cardi, be it ever so nice, and be it an ever so expensive designer one.
And she should definitely refrain from wearing dirndl skirts - or pencil skirts.

Gawd - its not how much an outfit costs, its how you pull it together and how to choose what suits you.

I think I ought to set up as fashion-and-style guru ...

662 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:01:28am

re: #653 lawhawk

Moderate axe murderers?

663 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:01:30am

re: #591 yma o hyd

Hurry!

664 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:01:39am

re: #655 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Maybe a Jackalope instead?

Ooh, I like the full body standing one.

665 Lively  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:01:48am

If GWB would have trotted around the globe passing out thoughtless gifts, we never would have heard the end of it. And if it weren't for the British Press, it still would be a non-story.

666 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:02:08am

re: #658 tfc3rid

Knock. It. Down.

667 JimmyTheClaw  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:02:14am

> > Two
> > women were playing golf. One
> > teed off and watched
> > in horror as her
> > ball headed directly toward a
> > foursome of men playing the next hole.
> >
> >
> >
> > The ball hit one of the
> > men. He immediately clasped his
> > hands together at
> > his groin, fell to the
> > ground and proceeded to roll around
> > in agony.
> >
> >
> >
> > The woman rushed
> > down to the man, and immediately began to
> > apologize.
> > 'Please allow
> > me to help. I'm a Physical
> > Therapist and I know I could
> > relieve your pain
> > if you'd allow me," she told him..
> >
> >
> >
> > 'Oh no, I'll be all right.
> > I'll be fine in a
> > few minutes,' the man
> > replied. He was in obvious agony,
> > lying in the fetal position, still
> > clasping his hands together at his
> > groin.
> >
> >
> >
> > At her persistence, however, he finally allowed her to
> > help. She gently
> > took his hands away and laid
> >
> > them to the side,
> > loosened his pants and put her hands
> > inside. She then
> > administered a very
> > tender
> >
> > and artful massage for several minutes and then
> > asked,
> > 'How does that
> > feel?
> >
> >
> >
> > He replied: 'It feels great,
> > but I still think my
> > thumb's broken.'

668 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:02:24am

re: #616 yma o hyd

All you Lizards, look away - now!

Lizardesses - what do you think:

Morning visit to 10 Downing Street

Dinner at 10 Downing Street

The other lady is Mrs Brown - and the dinner was for all the G20 spouses.

You go first ...

:-)))


Hello {yma o hyd}

Michelle loves her cardies doesn't she?

I like the cream number, but the skirt looks awful, and that blue thing is rather casual for the occasion, and isn't buttoned right or maybe it's just "the edgy look :-)

669 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:02:45am

re: #661 yma o hyd

And she should definitely refrain from wearing dirndl skirts - or pencil skirts.


But she's bootylicious!

670 Golem Akbar  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:02:53am

re: #650 Ojoe

Jackaranda trees, though I don't know if I am spelling it correctly.

Yes, jacaranda trees are also in bloom around here.

671 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:02:55am

re: #606 redstateredneck

No thanks, I get the J Crew catalog.

LOL!

672 lifeofthemind  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:03:16am

re: #637 redstateredneck

For a truly American gift, they should consider the vintage Horny Toad.

Bill Clinton?

673 Lively  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:03:43am

re: #667 JimmyTheClaw

That's gettin' emailed to the hubby.

674 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:03:54am

Big Labor making the big push for thuggish "Card Check" Will our ridiculous corrupt congress give in? My guess - yes.

The clueless, endlessly corrupt, economic illiterates in congress will surely chose thugs over a strong and healthy private sector free market business climate.

675 Killer Tomato  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:04:02am

re: #616 yma o hyd

With all the teleprompters packed on AF1 there was no room for Michelle's mirror?

676 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:04:05am

re: #666 Kenneth

Knock. It. Down.

Amen brotha... This is truly the global test of President O's balls from a defense role...

Will he call the Nork's bluff of retaliation? Will he do nothing but simply go to the UN? Will Japan try something?

677 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:04:16am

re: #670 Golem Akbar

What a beautiful world.

678 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:04:30am

re: #610 realwest
Well said!

679 Lincolntf  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:05:12am

If Obama gives Sarkozy a "donation to the Human Fund" in his name, then I'm gonna hurl.

680 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:05:23am

re: #674 FrogMarch

Big Labor making the big push for thuggish "Card Check" Will our ridiculous corrupt congress give in? My guess - yes.

The clueless, endlessly corrupt, economic illiterates in congress will surely chose thugs over a strong and healthy private sector free market business climate.

And your point is?
/

681 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:05:24am

re: #609 Kenneth

A Palestinian attacker wielding an axe has killed an Israeli boy and wounded another in a Jewish settlement in the West Bank, police say.

Monsters.

the horde of savages is already planning a celebration to honor this pos.
these monsters are vile thru and thru,
for an adult to target children like this means we are dealing w/ the worst evil imaginable.
they are rabid animals.

682 Golem Akbar  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:05:28am

re: #677 Ojoe

What a beautiful world.


Si.

683 godfrey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:05:38am

Well, looks like Team Obama™ is still a massive train wreck, in every conceivable direction.

/out

684 Lively  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:05:39am

re: #679 Lincolntf

If Obama gives Sarkozy a "donation to the Human Fund" in his name, then I'm gonna hurl.

No, he's getting a Chia Pet.

685 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:06:27am

re: #622 realwest

Mostly good.
How's your back?

686 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:06:32am

re: #641 Walter L. Newton

I live in a flat. The landlord does the shoveling. But, no, I don't care about Michelle.

"Whingey," obviously slang, translate (or does it translate to what it sounds like, flighty, batty?)

To whinge is the equivalent of to moan, or to whine.
So 'whingey' translates to 'whiney'.

It might indeed be a more English-English usage, although I'm certain the Aussies are using it as an inseparable adjective to 'Pom', i.e. 'whiney Pom'.
Thats what they call the English ...

687 newmelleman  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:06:49am

re: #682 Golem Akbar

Si.

Damn, I thought I pressed 7 for English!

688 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:06:57am
Michelle Obama will have eight of her own staff, including a secretary, a press officer and bodyguards.


Surely there was room for her stylist?

689 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:07:09am

re: #680 Walter L. Newton

And your point is?
/

I forgot a period in there. Stating the obvious on a Thursday morning.
How much snow did you get?

Big Labor making the big push for thuggish "Card Check". Will our ridiculous corrupt congress give in? My guess - yes.


fixed.

690 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:07:28am

re: #679 Lincolntf

If Obama gives Sarkozy a "donation to the Human Fund" in his name, then I'm gonna hurl.

He'll get a Kindle... Since we are all about giving technology...

691 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:07:37am

re: #684 Lively

No, he's getting a Chia Pet.

He's giving him Biden?

692 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:08:08am

re: #626 Golem Akbar

Everything is in bloom. It's sinus hell for those suffering allergies. For the rest of us, it's very cool.

So I've heard from my son who lives in Pasadena.
But what are those blue trees called? I can't think of the name.

693 Lively  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:08:08am

re: #691 redstateredneck
Okay, that made me laugh.

694 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:08:08am

Sounds like the budget might get agreed to today... Awful... Sad.

695 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:08:22am
696 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:08:46am

re: #693 Lively

Okay, that made me laugh.

That was my intent!
;-)

697 JimmyTheClaw  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:08:48am

re: #679 Lincolntf

If Obama gives Sarkozy a "donation to the Human Fund" in his name, then I'm gonna hurl.

costanza was more competant

698 KenJen  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:09:04am

re: #644 Kenneth

You are evil! //

699 newmelleman  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:09:10am

re: #691 redstateredneck

He's giving him Biden?

BHO isn't fully utilizing the Biden gaffe machine to cover his own. (would not doubt for a minute this is why Biden was his choice)

700 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:09:13am

re: #616 yma o hyd

That's even way worse than Hillary was.

701 Gella  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:09:13am

re: #679 Lincolntf

If Obama gives Sarkozy a "donation to the Human Fund" in his name, then I'm gonna hurl.

his kidney?
//////////

702 Lively  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:09:34am

Speaking of Biden, his daughter is caught on video snorting a line of cocaine and all we hear about is the guy shooting the video was out for the money. Does anyone think it's unbecoming for a VP daughter to be breaking the law?

703 Golem Akbar  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:10:06am

re: #687 newmelleman

Damn, I thought I pressed 7 for English!

/My IE 7 is programmed to translate for Los Angeles...

704 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:10:20am

re: #702 Lively

Speaking of Biden, his daughter is caught on video snorting a line of cocaine and all we hear about is the guy shooting the video was out for the money. Does anyone think it's unbecoming for a VP daughter to be breaking the law?

If it's good enough for the President...

705 Killer Tomato  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:10:31am

re: #688 redstateredneck

Michelle Obama will have eight of her own staff, including a secretary, a press officer and bodyguards.
Surely there was room for her stylist?

Picture in your head what Laura Bush would've been wearing.
Michelle can't hold a candle to her.
Laura Bush was the First Lady.
Mrs. O is married to the President.

706 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:10:40am

re: #695 Iron Fist

Being photogenic is a requirement for winning the Presidency in this day and age. I think it's going to get worse as the MTV/playstation generation gets old enough to vote.


Looking back at former presidents, a lot of them wouldn't have had a chance getting the nomination, let alone elected. Poor old Abe wouldn't have made it for sure.

707 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:10:47am

re: #504 Kenneth

Keith makes Mick look sober?

Some tabloid wag wrote that Brown was grinning like a bookworm schoolboy who has finally been invited to the cool kids' party.

Keith makes Mick look young.

708 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:10:58am

re: #702 Lively

Speaking of Biden, his daughter is caught on video snorting a line of cocaine and all we hear about is the guy shooting the video was out for the money. Does anyone think it's unbecoming for a VP daughter to be breaking the law?

Only if her last name is Bush.

709 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:11:01am

re: #679 Lincolntf

If Obama gives Sarkozy a "donation to the Human Fund" in his name, then I'm gonna hurl.

Money for People.

710 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:11:11am

re: #695 Iron Fist


Being photogenic is a requirement for winning the Presidency in this day and age. I think it's going to get worse as the MTV/playstation generation gets old enough to vote.

Sadly, I agree.

711 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:11:13am
712 VioletTiger  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:11:30am

re: #668 aussiemagpie

Hello {yma o hyd}

Michelle loves her cardies doesn't she?

I like the cream number, but the skirt looks awful, and that blue thing is rather casual for the occasion, and isn't buttoned right or maybe it's just "the edgy look :-)

The cardigan just doesn't fit.
I have nothing against J Crew. I wear their stuff. But if I have an important occasion, even a big presentation, I would look for something better. And I would make sure it fit properly.

713 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:11:42am

re: #695 Iron Fist

Agreed... And since the media is controlled by Libs, I can see that they are going to pimp the Dems, especially if the economy turns around, which is currently becoming part of the talking points... 'The signs are starting to show that the economy is starting to turn around because of the President Obama's new direction.'

And then, you get a permanent minority...

714 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:12:01am

re: #668 aussiemagpie

Hello {yma o hyd}

Michelle loves her cardies doesn't she?

I like the cream number, but the skirt looks awful, and that blue thing is rather casual for the occasion, and isn't buttoned right or maybe it's just "the edgy look :-)

Hiya, {aussiemagpie}!
The cream cardi is nice - but not the way she wears it! Its the wrong length - and the skirt is just yuck, no matetr how many $$$$ she shelled out for it.
The other one is just plain awful - even though it might well be cashmere.
Thing is, WAB hasn't got a clue about how to wear a cardi, probably never done so in her life!
Well, its a peculiarly British habit - we know all about how to wear which one when - and ffs, there are such things a shrugs and pashminas!
As for dirndl skirts on women over forty - OMG!

715 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:12:01am

re: #705 Killer Tomato


Laura Bush was the First Lady.
Mrs. O is married to the President.

Perfect!

716 Lincolntf  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:12:05am

re: #702 Lively


The only political children who are "fair game" are teenaged Republicans. Democrat Campaign professionals and public policy staffers aren't nearly as important in the grand sceme of things, apparently.

717 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:12:30am

re: #662 Kenneth

Moderate axe murderers?

Moderate because the terrorist didn't fully lop off the heads of either of the two Israeli kids. /

718 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:12:33am

re: #702 Lively

Speaking of Biden, his daughter is caught on video snorting a line of cocaine and all we hear about is the guy shooting the video was out for the money. Does anyone think it's unbecoming for a VP daughter to be breaking the law?

How come this isn't all over the papers the way it was when the Bush girls drank underage (which isn't as serious as using illegal drugs)?

719 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:13:12am

re: #675 Killer Tomato

With all the teleprompters packed on AF1 there was no room for Michelle's mirror?

She probably thought there would be one or two in the US Embassy in Lunnon ...

720 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:13:18am

re: #718 Kosh's Shadow

How come this isn't all over the papers the way it was when the Bush girls drank underage (which isn't as serious as using illegal drugs)?

You know the answer... Come on, if it was a Bush or Palin, forget it, they would be seen as politically radioactive...

721 VioletTiger  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:13:20am

re: #708 redstateredneck

Only if her last name is Bush.

Interesting--a program I watched yesterday wondered why the right leaning blogs were not skewering the VP's daughter as the left wing blogs had done to Sarah Palin's daughter.
Easy answer--we've got more class.

722 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:13:33am

re: #705 Killer Tomato

Picture in your head what Laura Bush would've been wearing.
Michelle can't hold a candle to her.
Laura Bush was the First Lady.
Mrs. O is married to the President.


Before she is done Michelle will make Eleanor Roosevelt look like a fashion icon.

723 chicago blonde  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:13:35am

re: #695 Iron Fist

In short, the media lied to us with the intent of influencing the election. I imagine that comes as a surprise to you.

Being photogenic is a requirement for winning the Presidency in this day and age. I think it's going to get worse as the MTV/playstation generation gets old enough to vote.


Oh no, just because I'm complaining about something doesn't mean it surprises me. I know the MSM was in the tank for him. And yes, it will get worse.

OK, now I really gotta go - bye all!

724 Irish Rose  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:13:38am

re: #490 nyc redneck

that thing is so disgusting.
i bet some people would buy his gilded excrement.
and put it on the coffee table as a center piece.

Oprah would be the first one in line.

725 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:13:52am

re: #706 redstateredneck

Looking back at former presidents, a lot of them wouldn't have had a chance getting the nomination, let alone elected. Poor old Abe wouldn't have made it for sure.

Zac Efron for president!

/thinking ahead

726 VioletTiger  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:14:12am

re: #724 Irish Rose

How did you do at your appointment yesterday?

727 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:14:19am

re: #712 VioletTiger

The cardigan just doesn't fit.
I have nothing against J Crew. I wear their stuff. But if I have an important occasion, even a big presentation, I would look for something better. And I would make sure it fit properly.

Hi {Violet Tiger}, and it's not a really good look although I love that cream cardie

I've not heard of J Crew, never seen the label here in the shops

728 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:14:23am

re: #719 yma o hyd

She probably thought there would be one or two in the US Embassy in Lunnon ...

She broke them.

729 freetoken  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:14:39am

re: #718 Kosh's Shadow

Because it was some guy's lawyer shopping a supposed video for money.

730 cvandeve  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:14:45am

Hello,
This is my first post here, though I have been a lurker for a long time.
Any comments on "Uncle Ted", the Alaskan senator having all charges dropped against him, now that the elections are over and the Dems control congress.

731 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:14:49am

re: #646 {yma o hyd}

Hiya, {J.D.} - any news of your friend's son?

After waiting yesterday to hear something most of the morning, she finally called and said they had delayed it until today. So, good memory (ahem) that I have, I remembered what you said yesterday and decided to change my outlook. I'm on the mend and can't do much, so being here really helps to keep my mind off it.

Thanks for asking.

732 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:15:08am

re: #722 soxfan4life

Before she is done Michelle will make Eleanor Roosevelt look like a fashion icon.

That earned an upding.
:D

733 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:15:16am

re: #721 VioletTiger

Interesting--a program I watched yesterday wondered why the right leaning blogs were not skewering the VP's daughter as the left wing blogs had done to Sarah Palin's daughter.
Easy answer--we've got more class.

The O'Reilly Factor was actually talking abou that... Amanda Carpenter was giving a comparison of Right Wing blogs vs. Lefty Blogs and there was not a lot of harsh namecalling from the right over thid matter...

Also on O'Reilly Dick Morris was once again talking about this G-20 meeting leading to a scenario where the SEC and Federal Reserve would be oput under the auspices of the IMF... I have not found anything on it...

734 badger1970  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:15:31am

Good morning, great quote. A similar one I like to use when I feel a little low is from Job 11:13-18; but at heart, I tend to be a sanctimonious hypocrite.

Anyway, first story I read was Bawney Fwank shooting his/her mouth off, MO gave a bear hug to the queen, Biden gives credit to a firehouse built under bo's stimulus (when in reality, it was under President Bush's monies that built it) 669k jobs lost but bo's popularity is still sky high.

At least I didn't wake up to "I'm a loser baby..." on Jack FM ;)

735 JimmyTheClaw  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:15:34am

re: #702 Lively

Speaking of Biden, his daughter is caught on video snorting a line of cocaine and all we hear about is the guy shooting the video was out for the money. Does anyone think it's unbecoming for a VP daughter to be breaking the law?

compared to the bush twins and underage drinking

736 Lively  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:15:55am

re: #718 Kosh's Shadow

How come this isn't all over the papers the way it was when the Bush girls drank underage (which isn't as serious as using illegal drugs)?

The gossip rags say she was set-up and have dropped the story. But I will tell you, if someone gave me a straw and a line of cocaine, I wouldn't know how to snort it because I don't use drugs.

/don't mean to be an oldy, but just sayin

737 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:15:58am

re: #681 nyc redneck

the horde of savages is already planning a celebration to honor this pos.
these monsters are vile thru and thru,
for an adult to target children like this means we are dealing w/ the worst evil imaginable.
they are rabid animals.

The fact that the murderer used an axe to kill a child is prima facie proof of severe mental derangement. This is, I understand, what happens in the final stage of rabies./

738 Gella  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:16:03am

re: #735 JimmyTheClaw

compared to the bush twins and underage drinking

well apparently she was cough under age drinking too

739 VioletTiger  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:16:04am

re: #727 aussiemagpie

Hi {Violet Tiger}, and it's not a really good look although I love that cream cardie

I've not heard of J Crew, never seen the label here in the shops

Hey {aussie}
You can find their catalog online. It's kind of a preppy look.

740 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:16:11am

re: #650 Ojoe

Jackaranda trees, though I don't know if I am spelling it correctly.

Yes!
Those!
The "natives" tell me they are messy, but they're beautiful, I think.

741 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:16:14am

re: #700 J.D.

That's even way worse than Hillary was.

Yep - but very enjoyable, in an odd sort of way.
Not that Mrs Brown herself is a fashion plate, or dresses so that her figure is enhanced, but then, we know all about her ...

I can't begin to say how very much I'm looking forward to the meeting between Michelle and Madame Sarkozy.
It'll be sooo unfair ... teeheehee!

742 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:16:46am

re: #729 freetoken

Because it was some guy's lawyer shopping a supposed video for money.

And she's a Democrat's daughter.

743 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:17:53am

re: #678 J.D.
Thank you very much!

744 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:18:33am

re: #735 JimmyTheClaw

compared to the bush twins and underage drinking

///You don't understand.

When Republicans do something wrong, they're being hypocrites, so it's newsworthy. When Democrats break the law, they're only doing what' comes naturally, so it's no big deal.

Do I have to 'splain everything to you?

745 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:18:41am
746 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:19:10am

re: #721 VioletTiger

Interesting--a program I watched yesterday wondered why the right leaning blogs were not skewering the VP's daughter as the left wing blogs had done to Sarah Palin's daughter.
Easy answer--we've got more class.

Yeah, O'Riely had Amanda Carpenter on last night discussing the issue.
He seemed diasppointed that the Consevative blogs were'nt jumping on the story. He always want's to look like the rational moderate.
To his credit though, he did rip Letterman a new one.

747 Golem Akbar  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:19:26am

re: #740 J.D.

Yes!
Those!
The "natives" tell me they are messy, but they're beautiful, I think.


They are amazing. But once the leaves fall, they leave a mess on the ground. The leaves are sticky, and don't sweep up easily. Not really a bad price to pay for such beauty.

748 VioletTiger  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:19:58am

Got to do some work. Have a great day!

749 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:19:59am

re: #745 taxfreekiller

I mailed my teabag directly to the White House. If y'all don't see me around here, you'll know they came and got me.

750 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:20:02am

re: #734 badger1970

Good morning, great quote. A similar one I like to use when I feel a little low is from Job 11:13-18; but at heart, I tend to be a sanctimonious hypocrite.

Anyway, first story I read was Bawney Fwank shooting his/her mouth off, MO gave a bear hug to the queen, Biden gives credit to a firehouse built under bo's stimulus (when in reality, it was under President Bush's monies that built it) 669k jobs lost but bo's popularity is still sky high.

At least I didn't wake up to "I'm a loser baby..." on Jack FM ;)

Hah! I just finished listening to that song a minute ago.

751 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:20:11am

re: #705 Killer Tomato

Picture in your head what Laura Bush would've been wearing.
Michelle can't hold a candle to her.
Laura Bush was the First Lady.
Mrs. O is married to the President.

There - you nailed it in one!
Laura Bush always was and always will be a Lady, even when she isn't The First Lady any more.
She had style, poise and humanity. She did not need fashion designers to make her 'look good' - her goodness shone through anyway.
She didn't need to show off toned arms or anything - she just was a class act.
And even standing next to that out-and-out stunner and former fashion model, Carla Bruni, Mrs Laura Bush would never have looked out of place or frumpy - she wasn't that sort of person.
That is something Michelle will never be able to achieve, ever.

752 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:20:41am

re: #722 soxfan4life

Before she is done Michelle will make Eleanor Roosevelt look like a fashion icon.

She'd rather be wearing olive drab fatigues, and a beret with a red star.

753 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:21:17am

re: #737 Spare O'Lake

But this is the truly horrifying thing about this, and the countless other attacks against innocent Israeli citizens:

The Palestinian murderers are not insane. Their brutality is culturally normalized behavior.

That's the horror.

754 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:21:26am

re: #735 JimmyTheClaw

compared to the bush twins and underage drinking

What a shock that was. College kids never drink underage.

755 newmelleman  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:21:30am

re: #749 redstateredneck

I mailed my teabag directly to the White House. If y'all don't see me around here, you'll know they came and got me.

They will assume you want "two lumps" to go with your tea.

756 Killer Tomato  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:21:39am

re: #749 redstateredneck

I mailed my teabag directly to the White House. If y'all don't see me around here, you'll know they came and got me.

MANCHESTER, N.H. -- An envelope with a suspicious substance in it was sent to U.S. Rep. Carol Shea-Porter's Manchester office on Wednesday.

Shea-Porter's staff notified Manchester police when they received the suspicious envelope. Officials were able to determine that the substance was green tea and had been sent as a protest.

There was a return address on the envelope, and police spoke to the sender. Police said the sender showed a lack of judgment but didn't mean to cause alarm.

757 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:21:49am

re: #749 redstateredneck

I mailed my teabag directly to the White House. If y'all don't see me around here, you'll know they came and got me.

you are SO done for now...

758 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:21:51am

re: #714 yma o hyd

Hiya, {aussiemagpie}!
The cream cardi is nice - but not the way she wears it! Its the wrong length - and the skirt is just yuck, no matetr how many $$$$ she shelled out for it.
The other one is just plain awful - even though it might well be cashmere.
Thing is, WAB hasn't got a clue about how to wear a cardi, probably never done so in her life!
Well, its a peculiarly British habit - we know all about how to wear which one when - and ffs, there are such things a shrugs and pashminas!
As for dirndl skirts on women over forty - OMG!

You certainly need those cardies over there :-)

We're heading into winter, so it will be cardie time soon enough!

It will be fun reading all the gushing comments re Michelle's clothes - as in that horrendous outfit she wore at the inaugaration which was praised in the media here by our fashion writers!

759 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:22:15am

re: #689 FrogMarch

fixed.

2-3 inches, not much.

760 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:22:20am

re: #752 Ward Cleaver

She'd rather be wearing olive drab fatigues, and a beret with a red star.

That might look better than some of her outfits. We already know she is a Commie Bitch, she just needs to come out of her closet.

761 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:22:26am

re: #713 tfc3rid
Hey my friend! Uh, there aren't any "libs" or Liberals anymore - only Leftists. The Dem party had one of those smoke filled rooms (like the one they used to strong arm Hillary out of getting the nomination even though she won ALL of the big electoral vote states except Illinois and the popular vote) to cast liberals out of the Democratic Party.
Hope you're doing well today my friend.

762 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:22:35am

Some (maybe) good news:
UN: Durban II meeting may not happen

Jewish and Muslim groups have taken offense at draft statements being prepared for the meeting, pushing governments to demand changes before the April 20-24 conference in Geneva.


We all know why the Jewish groups don't like the bash Israel conference, but why are the Muslims upset? Because the statements don't bash Israel enough:

Dozens of Arab rights groups called Wednesday for specific references to Israel's treatment of Palestinians to be reinserted. The Arab Lawyer Union, the Arab Commission for Human Rights and others accuse Israel of "daily war crimes" against Palestinians.


I think the best thing is for the UN to stop the waste of time that is the conference.

763 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:22:44am

re: #731 J.D.

After waiting yesterday to hear something most of the morning, she finally called and said they had delayed it until today. So, good memory (ahem) that I have, I remembered what you said yesterday and decided to change my outlook. I'm on the mend and can't do much, so being here really helps to keep my mind off it.

Thanks for asking.

{J.D.}
Thanks - praying for him, your friend - and for you!

764 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:23:09am

re: #749 redstateredneck

I mailed my teabag directly to the White House. If y'all don't see me around here, you'll know they came and got me.

Hah, that's what the Queen should have gave Obama. What kind of message would that send?

765 badger1970  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:23:24am

re: #757 tfc3rid

Only if it's Earl Grey (ick).

766 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:23:55am

re: #753 Kenneth

But this is the truly horrifying thing about this, and the countless other attacks against innocent Israeli citizens:

The Palestinian murderers are not insane. Their brutality is culturally normalized behavior.

That's the horror.

And yet, we try and portray them as rational...

767 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:24:20am

re: #752 Ward Cleaver

She'd rather be wearing olive drab fatigues, and a beret with a red star.

Actually American limousine commies don't really like to wear that. They like spouting the party line but still like all the benefits of a capitalistic pig economy and all it's comforts--like nice cloths.

768 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:24:23am

re: #725 Ward Cleaver

Zac Efron for president!

/thinking ahead

The MSM already acts around Obama the way tween girls act at a Jonas Brothers concert (not my line, but a good one).

769 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:25:04am

There will be an annoncement from the Grand Jury about Governor Blago in about a half hour. This could be the indictment.

770 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:25:05am

re: #739 VioletTiger

Hey {aussie}
You can find their catalog online. It's kind of a preppy look.

I'm sure there are lots of lovely things there - its the combination which is important.
Frankly - I can't get over that dirndl skirt, never mind the colour and that cardi (thats her dinner outfit).

771 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:25:13am

re: #739 VioletTiger

Hey {aussie}
You can find their catalog online. It's kind of a preppy look.

I'll have a look thanks! I'm a fashionista////

772 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:25:43am

re: #729 freetoken

Because it was some guy's lawyer shopping a supposed video for money.

That's never stopped the MFM before.

773 turn  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:25:57am

dang, turns been screwing up his spelling and syntax on LGF comments all this time and all I had to do was have my British office manager do the typing instead. Ha, that mspfacs dude was a study. I'm glad I went back and followed his posts though because I read lawhawk's excellent post (oh, I see it's number one) right on lawhawk!

Morning all.

774 KenJen  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:26:02am

re: #679 Lincolntf

If Obama gives Sarkozy a "donation to the Human Fund" in his name, then I'm gonna hurl.

Obama is not very charatiable so I dont see him donating anything in his name. He'll do it on behalf of the American tax payers.

775 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:26:09am

Well y'all it's been grand as usual but I gotta run now - off to dentist and chores and chores and chores! Glad it's only pouring out, instead of REALLY raining!
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

776 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:26:17am

re: #769 opnion

There will be an annoncement from the Grand Jury about Governor Blago in about a half hour. This could be the indictment.

Or a dismissal because of prosecutor misconduct?

777 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:27:00am

re: #761 realwest

Hey my friend! Uh, there aren't any "libs" or Liberals anymore - only Leftists. The Dem party had one of those smoke filled rooms (like the one they used to strong arm Hillary out of getting the nomination even though she won ALL of the big electoral vote states except Illinois and the popular vote) to cast liberals out of the Democratic Party.
Hope you're doing well today my friend.

There are liberals in the Republican party. And some independents.

778 justabill  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:27:01am

re: #633 newmelleman

OK. I am the absolute last person with any credentials to make fashion comments but...I recently saw a picture of the first lady. She was pictured along side several other women (the G20 wives club?). It looked really out of place that she was the only one with bare arms.

She is exercising her 2nd Amendment rights as interpreted by liberals...

779 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:27:13am

Netanyahu has, I believe, started off on the right foot:
- Annapolis not binding because it has expired;
- No endorsement of a two state solution; and,
- Israeli security will be the primary basis for peace.

Now if Obama/Clinton would just keep their meddling mitts out of it, Israel would be a lot better off.
And the peace-loving Palestinians would be better off too - all three of them./

780 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:27:18am

re: #774 KenJen

Obama is not very charatiable so I dont see him donating anything in his name. He'll do it on behalf of the American tax payers.

Yeah, he'll give them our money.

781 irongrampa  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:27:41am

Good morning from the Springtime Adirondacks. Nice day here the lawn is finally navigable, so we'll be on it after a bit.

I had to share this from our local paper, it should send a thrill up anyone's leg reading it.

Re the idiots in Albany, while passing budget legislation--from a Westchester Assemblyman.

"There's a lot of social engineering. There should be. That's what a budget is."

And these people have a majority.

782 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:28:07am

re: #776 Nevergiveup

Or a dismissal because of prosecutor misconduct?

"I'm free, wheeeeee!"

783 Killer Tomato  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:28:18am

re: #774 KenJen

Obama is not very charatiable so I dont see him donating anything in his name. He'll do it on behalf of the American tax payers.

Not in my name!

oh...

784 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:28:19am

re: #776 Nevergiveup

Or a dismissal because of prosecutor misconduct?


Doubt it , but you never know. I assume that you are referring to Ted Stevens?

785 llanite  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:28:56am

re: #764 Walter L. Newton

Do you get the feeling that the Hillary State Dept. people are trying to sabotage the Obamas on purpose? They seem singularly incompetent in the protocol department.

Or are the Obama's picking out their own gifts and are singularly self-absorbed and so don't recognize the gaffes?

I'm really just curious - like wondering how they do a good movie stunt or magic trick.... time for some more popcorn...

786 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:29:24am

re: #753 Kenneth

But this is the truly horrifying thing about this, and the countless other attacks against innocent Israeli citizens:

The Palestinian murderers are not insane. Their brutality is culturally normalized behavior.

That's the horror.

Just so - and the horror is enhanced by all those 'nice' western nations who regard them as peaceful victims, only trying to defend themselves against the israelis - and who already say that Lieberman's speech about not recognising the Ann Arbour agreement 'was not helpful' and did not 'stabilise' the situation.

787 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:29:30am

re: #781 irongrampa

NY State is becoming less and less attractive to live in... Part of why we are looking to leave here is because it is getting compeltely out of hand... Cost-benefit is not even close...

Although happy news, I am getting about $2,500 back in taxes... Good, I paid enough...

788 KenJen  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:29:31am

re: #730 cvandeve

Hello,
This is my first post here, though I have been a lurker for a long time.
Any comments on "Uncle Ted", the Alaskan senator having all charges dropped against him, now that the elections are over and the Dems control congress.


I havent followed that as closely as I should have. I seem to remember a lot of charges. Did the evidence against him seem strong? If so I dont think they would have dropped all charges.

789 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:29:49am

re: #784 opnion

Doubt it , but you never know. I assume that you are referring to Ted Stevens?

Yes but just joking, I don't think Blago will be so lucky. But this is Chicago so ya never know?

790 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:29:51am

re: #753 Kenneth

But this is the truly horrifying thing about this, and the countless other attacks against innocent Israeli citizens:

The Palestinian murderers are not insane. Their brutality is culturally normalized behavior.

That's the horror.

Another way of looking at it is to conclude that their entire culture is insane.

791 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:30:13am
792 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:30:18am

re: #779 Spare O'Lake

Netanyahu has, I believe, started off on the right foot:
- Annapolis not binding because it has expired;
- No endorsement of a two state solution; and,
- Israeli security will be the primary basis for peace.

Now if Obama/Clinton would just keep their meddling mitts out of it, Israel would be a lot better off.
And the peace-loving Palestinians would be better off too - all three of them./

Yes, but both the US and the Eu's are pressuring him to agree to a Palestinian state, without any pressure on the Palis to accept Israel. And the UN, too, but we always expect that from them.
I'm afraid Israel is going to be quite isolated.

793 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:31:08am
794 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:31:47am

re: #667 JimmyTheClaw

Very funny! LOL!

795 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:31:53am

re: #787 tfc3rid

NY State is becoming less and less attractive to live in... Part of why we are looking to leave here is because it is getting compeltely out of hand... Cost-benefit is not even close...

Although happy news, I am getting about $2,500 back in taxes... Good, I paid enough...

Drinks are on you, my friend!

796 turn  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:32:03am

re: #791 taxfreekiller

[Link: science.nasa.gov...]

I read that just awhile ago. The plot of the regularity of the sun spot cycle sort of blew me away. I always knew there was a cycle but I never saw the raw data.

797 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:32:13am

re: #766 tfc3rid

That's my point... in a sense they are rational. The Palestinians are raised to believe that killing Jews, any Jews, is a positive moral act. Those who do so are praised as heroes.

What is irrational is the Western diplomatic assumption that the thugs who masquerade as political leaders really are "partners for peace." Or that by rewarding their pretenses with money, recognition and training, we are encouraging peace. The peace plan is, if you look at it rationally, the terrorism plan.

798 badger1970  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:32:22am

re: #785 llanite

At least the the queen can wipe that crap from the ipod and donate to someone in need. I doubt it'll be of any sentimental value. Afterward, she can then get medical treatment for the broken rib that mo gave her.

799 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:32:27am
800 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:32:30am

re: #722 soxfan4life

Before she is done Michelle will make Eleanor Roosevelt look like a fashion icon.

You do know that is not a universally shared opinion ? I'll admit I don't fully get it, but her approval ratings are sky high and even the British press is fawning. The comparisons to Jackie-O are over the top IMHO.

link

801 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:32:31am

re: #773 turn

dang, turns been screwing up his spelling and syntax on LGF comments all this time and all I had to do was have my British office manager do the typing instead. Ha, that mspfacs dude was a study. I'm glad I went back and followed his posts though because I read lawhawk's excellent post (oh, I see it's number one) right on lawhawk!

Morning all.

Good Morning! The exchange with mspfacs was pretty funny yesterday.
I could almost see him looking over his office managers shoulder typing what ever he says..'No No Tell em I'm really smart..'

802 itellu3times  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:32:40am

re: #670 Golem Akbar

Yes, jacaranda trees are also in bloom around here.

Don't park under them when in bloom!

803 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:33:03am

re: #786 yma o hyd

Annapolis, not Ann Arbor. But yes, you are dead right.

804 turn  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:33:05am

re: #793 SasquatchOnSteroids

Ha !

Climate Crime Scene

What, no tin foil hat?

805 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:33:18am

re: #795 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Drinks are on you, my friend!

Nah man, going to pay down my debt... That, or concessions at Citi Field...

806 irongrampa  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:33:22am

re: #787 tfc3rid

I'd move too, but for the fact The Committee decreed we move closer to our kids. Last couple years have been devoted to structuring our life so as to keep the gov't out of it as much as possible. I didn't realize how PERVASIVE they are.

807 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:33:44am

re: #785 llanite

Do you get the feeling that the Hillary State Dept. people are trying to sabotage the Obamas on purpose? They seem singularly incompetent in the protocol department.

Or are the Obama's picking out their own gifts and are singularly self-absorbed and so don't recognize the gaffes?

I'm really just curious - like wondering how they do a good movie stunt or magic trick.... time for some more popcorn...

Honestly, I just think he is trying to "modernize" the nature of gift giving. It's a "hip" and "cool" thing with him.

Which is probably not a big deal, but it would help if the protocol people would give us a little explanation, even if it's a load of public relations.

(BBIAB, got to put in some laundry)

808 Killer Tomato  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:33:50am

re: #781 irongrampa

"There's a lot of social engineering. There should be. That's what a budget is."
And these people have a majority.

Yip. That right there's the problem.

809 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:33:55am

re: #656 J.D.

Whoops. You're right. I didn't mean to link the fact that the NYC Medical Examiner identified another 9/11 victim with that link. The link to Ace's post is here.

Apologies to anyone who went on to the 1010wins news article instead. My bad.

810 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:34:01am

re: #805 tfc3rid

Nah man, going to pay down my debt... That, or concessions at Citi Field...

I'd still like to see a Phillies-Mets game at Citi this summer.

811 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:34:06am

President Obama's European visit this week has strained Air Force heavy-airlift capabilities and obliged the military to hire more foreign contractors to help resupply U.S. and allied forces in Afghanistan, according to military sources.

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

Whoever leaked this is not all that happy with Obama me thinkith?

812 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:35:15am

Hey, has anyone heard from Afrocity? I don't recall her posting recently.

813 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:35:17am

I have a hypothetical question. What happens if the economy continues to recover? The Republicans who pretty much unanimously opposed stimulus and TARP are going to get no credit with the public for helping the economy recover. If the economy recovers quickly (a year or two) Republicans are going to look like real assholes.

814 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:35:17am

re: #800 avanti

You do know that is not a universally shared opinion ? I'll admit I don't fully get it, but her approval ratings are sky high and even the British press is fawning. The comparisons to Jackie-O are over the top IMHO.

link

True, but that's only because compared to Amy Winehouse, Michelle didn't punch anybody out.

815 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:35:22am

re: #797 Kenneth

That's my point... in a sense they are rational. The Palestinians are raised to believe that killing Jews, any Jews, is a positive moral act. Those who do so are praised as heroes.

What is irrational is the Western diplomatic assumption that the thugs who masquerade as political leaders really are "partners for peace." Or that by rewarding their pretenses with money, recognition and training, we are encouraging peace. The peace plan is, if you look at it rationally, the terrorism plan.

If I were Netanyahu, I would make public announcements that no further talks will be held until the Palis turn over the ax murderer to Israel.
Any "authorities" that give him any awards will not be allowed in any Pali government or in peace talks. Any buildings named after him will be bombed.
And I would reply to all pressure to accept a Palestinian state with a remark that "We will be glad to make peace with Palestinians who recognize our right to exist, but we will NOT accept an entity which honors those who ax murder children."

816 Lincolntf  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:35:31am

re: #800 avanti

"I don't fully get it, but her approval ratings are sky high and even the British press is fawning."

You said it, and you still don't "get it"?
The press (here and overseas) are completely enamored with the O's, and the same people who listened to the MSM during the campaign, and then did exactly what the MSM told them to, will continue to do so. All the while believing that they are actually having an original thought.

817 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:35:32am

re: #799 Iron Fist

With regard to gun control, has anyone actually read the proposed budget to see if there are any funding for controls/studies?

818 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:35:50am

re: #800 avanti

You do know that is not a universally shared opinion ? I'll admit I don't fully get it, but her approval ratings are sky high and even the British press is fawning. The comparisons to Jackie-O are over the top IMHO.

link

So being the only wife out of the group to not dress formally for state dinners as well as break major Rules of Protocol and touch the Queen is cool nowadays. Jackie O had more class, grace and dignity blowing her nose than Michelle could ever hope to have.

819 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:35:58am

re: #812 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I think she was around last night.

820 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:36:01am

re: #812 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Not today, AFAIK

821 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:36:25am

re: #806 irongrampa

I'd move too, but for the fact The Committee decreed we move closer to our kids. Last couple years have been devoted to structuring our life so as to keep the gov't out of it as much as possible. I didn't realize how PERVASIVE they are.

I think Gov. PAtterson has doomed himself...

822 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:36:32am

re: #812 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

She was here yesterday. I haven't seen her yet today. My best wishes & prayers for her recovery. She's one heck of a brilliant lizard.

823 jaunte  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:36:39am

re: #813 Killgore Trout

I have a hypothetical question. What happens if the economy continues to recover? The Republicans who pretty much unanimously opposed stimulus and TARP are going to get no credit with the public for helping the economy recover. If the economy recovers quickly (a year or two) Republicans are going to look like real assholes.

I think politicians in general are oblivious to looking like assholes.
They will just move on to the next subject.

824 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:36:45am

re: #759 Walter L. Newton

2-3 inches, not much.

same here.

825 turn  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:37:01am

re: #801 HoosierHoops

Good Morning! The exchange with mspfacs was pretty funny yesterday.
I could almost see him looking over his office managers shoulder typing what ever he says..'No No Tell em I'm really smart..'

Morning hoops, that guy couldn't be for real - no way. Did you upding LH? Man that was a great synopsis of LGF and all the good work Charles is doing. Hey, did you listen to Charles on the radio yesterday? Just curious how it went and what the topic was.

826 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:37:03am

re: #793 SasquatchOnSteroids

Ha !

Climate Crime Scene

That hat is a crime against fashion.

827 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:37:18am

re: #815 Kosh's Shadow

"We will be glad to make peace with Palestinians who recognize our right to exist, but we will NOT accept an entity which honors those who ax murder children."

Amen!

828 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:37:23am

re: #807 Walter L. Newton

How did you like Lost last night. I didn't get to watch the whole thing but it seemed like kind of a weak episode. Looks like they're going to milk the angle about will young Linus die or not.

829 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:37:27am

re: #810 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'd still like to see a Phillies-Mets game at Citi this summer.

Let me know when you want tix... I have 2 seats... The place reminds me of CBP but is just even more stunning inside and VERY intimate... Did you see my pics?

830 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:37:34am
831 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:37:39am

re: #812 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hey, has anyone heard from Afrocity? I don't recall her posting recently.

Yea, I missed her too, I hope she's well.

832 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:38:09am

re: #813 Killgore Trout

I have a hypothetical question. What happens if the economy continues to recover? The Republicans who pretty much unanimously opposed stimulus and TARP are going to get no credit with the public for helping the economy recover. If the economy recovers quickly (a year or two) Republicans are going to look like real assholes.

But in your mind, they already are assholes. so, be happy! The Republicans might be out of power for decades.

833 turn  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:38:44am

re: #812 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hey, has anyone heard from Afrocity? I don't recall her posting recently.

She may have been put off with the criticism of her second sight claims.

834 badger1970  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:38:56am

re: #800 avanti

Could it be political correctness? Looking inward at some of the articles, the wording and word play are slight skews to the manner at which flotus dresses. Fashion is way beyond my station.

835 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:39:14am

re: #833 turn

She may have been put off with the criticism of her second sight claims.

Second sights?

836 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:39:24am

re: #823 jaunte

You're probably right. If you look at LLL blogs like Kos that rabidly opposed the was in Iraq, they've just quietly dropped the subject and nobody seems to mind. I guess it really doesn't make much difference.

837 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:39:36am

re: #829 tfc3rid

Let me know when you want tix... I have 2 seats... The place reminds me of CBP but is just even more stunning inside and VERY intimate... Did you see my pics?

I wasn't able to open up the link at work.

838 S'latch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:39:46am

I don't know what to say about these people except, thanks for the laughs.

I wonder if this is a spoof.

839 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:40:38am

re: #813 Killgore Trout

I have a hypothetical question. What happens if the economy continues to recover? The Republicans who pretty much unanimously opposed stimulus and TARP are going to get no credit with the public for helping the economy recover. If the economy recovers quickly (a year or two) Republicans are going to look like real assholes.

I think the majority of people are going to vote Dems anyway as they WANT the socialism that is coming... However, the right thing for America would still be no stimulus or TARP.

840 turn  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:40:46am

re: #816 Lincolntf

seriously, it truly is a slobbering love affair.

841 jaunte  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:40:55am

re: #836 Killgore Trout

As to the economy, I think we'll just keep soldiering on with a bigger deficit and more taxes. I don't know if that would be considered recovery, or just enduring.

842 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:40:56am

re: #825 turn

Morning hoops, that guy couldn't be for real - no way. Did you upding LH? Man that was a great synopsis of LGF and all the good work Charles is doing. Hey, did you listen to Charles on the radio yesterday? Just curious how it went and what the topic was.


Hey Turn.. I need to go back and read what LH wrote.. I missed it.
I didn't hear Charles but a couple lizards did and said he did very well.

843 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:41:04am

re: #832 FrogMarch

But in your mind, they already are assholes. so, be happy! The Republicans might be out of power for decades.


Another good point. Maybe if they can't accept working solutions they don't deserve to get credit for helping the economy.

844 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:41:28am

re: #811 Nevergiveup

President Obama's European visit this week has strained Air Force heavy-airlift capabilities and obliged the military to hire more foreign contractors to help resupply U.S. and allied forces in Afghanistan, according to military sources.

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

Whoever leaked this is not all that happy with Obama me thinkith?

That narrows it down considerable.///

845 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:41:36am

The battle for Pakistan


Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top American commander for Iraq and Afghanistan, warned a Senate panel on Wednesday that militant extremists in Pakistan “could literally take down their state” if left unchallenged, as he and two other top officials presented a grim picture of growing dangers in the region....

...the troop strength numbers in this theater also operate in two directions. Given that the administration has ruled out using American troops in Pakistan, the bigger the force on the ground the more effective it will be on the Afghan side of Pashtunistan but the more logistically vulnerable it will be to setbacks on the Pakistani side of Pashtunistan. Every man more in Afghanistan is another man that needs to be supplied, largely through Pakistan. Perhaps the DOD is staging its buildup to see how much weight the current logistical arrangements can support before pressing down too hard on the boards. More troops mean more combat power in Afghanistan. It also means more men out on a limb if, as General Petraeus said, militant extremists “literally take down their state”. The administration should now draw breath before plunging into the tunnel. Nobody knows how far down this one goes.

Iraq was the easy war. Afpak is going to be much tougher.

846 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:41:39am
847 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:41:44am

re: #800 avanti

You do know that is not a universally shared opinion ? I'll admit I don't fully get it, but her approval ratings are sky high and even the British press is fawning. The comparisons to Jackie-O are over the top IMHO.

link

A brief look at the headlines of the daily British papers would have shown you that the British Press is in no way 'fawning' over Michelle.
But if this particular view makes a NY columnist happy, who am I to whinge ...

848 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:42:57am

re: #835 Nevergiveup

Second sights?

Yea.. What is second sight anyway?

849 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:42:58am

re: #803 Kenneth

Annapolis, not Ann Arbor. But yes, you are dead right.

Aww - had a senior moment there, sorry!

850 Killian Bundy  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:43:11am

Census Bureau: We’ll Work with ‘Community Organizations’ to Count All Illegal Aliens in 2010

The acting director of the U.S. Census Bureau, Thomas Mesenbourg, told CNSNews.com that the bureau intends to work with community organizations to make sure every illegal alien in the United States is counted in the 2010 Census.

The Census is used to apportion the seats in the U.S. House of Representative. There are 435 House seats that are divided among the states in proportion to their population, which is determined by the decennial census. States with more people get more seats in the U.S. House.

This means that a state harboring more illegal aliens can gain more House seats as long as the Census Bureau finds the illegal aliens and counts them. This also means that the illegal alien population resident in the United States during a census year has the potential to alter the regional and philosophical balance of power in Congress.

Mesenbourg’s comments were made after a press conference on Wednesday where Commerce Secretary Gary Locke joined several interest groups, including Univision, the National Council of La Raza, the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) and the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials (NALEO) to talk about efforts to ensure a full count of Latinos in the 2010 Census.

When asked whether he intended to maximize the count of illegal aliens in next year’s census, Mesenburg said: “Our job is to count everyone that resides in the U.S.--count them once. So, certainly that’s our goal to count every individual, every resident whether they’re documented, undocumented, whether they are citizens or non-citizens.”

Oh joy!

/so nice, they'll probably count 'em at least twice!

851 turn  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:43:24am

re: #835 Nevergiveup

What did I screw that up, the clairvoyance thing - you know dreams that for-tell the future.

852 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:43:24am

re: #837 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I wasn't able to open up the link at work.

Ahhhhhh.... Gotcha... Webshots is the only photo site that I can open at the office...

Pictures do the place no justice.... I will be back on Saturday to take pics of the Clubs and other places I missed... The CF area reminds me a lot of Ashburn Alley... It's great.

853 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:43:30am

re: #845 Kenneth

The battle for Pakistan


Iraq was the easy war. Afpak is going to be much tougher.

Have no fear, we have master strategist FCBBHO running the show now.///

854 axegrinder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:44:08am

The economy will improve eventually no matter what Obama does. Even the POTUS's power is not all consuming. The economy is still bigger then he is. The current trend toward government control over big business and debilitating taxes on small business's will, however, postpone a healthy recovery. The improvements that are inevitable will be slower and less pronounced due to government interference. IMHO

855 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:44:10am
856 turn  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:44:14am

re: #842 HoosierHoops

just hit top 10, it's #1

857 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:44:25am

Does anyone know whether membership in the Jewish Defence League is legal, or whether the organization itself is legal in the US and/or Canada?
Also, how many members do they have?

858 VegasRick  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:45:05am

re: #843 Killgore Trout

Another good point. Maybe if they can't accept working solutions they don't deserve to get credit for helping the economy.

Killgore, you are about to "jump the shark". This admins "solutions" are about as un-American as they come. Please don't buy into the BS.

859 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:45:25am

re: #838 Lawrence Schmerel

I don't know what to say about these people except, thanks for the laughs.



I wonder if this is a spoof.

These could be them, bcz they mention Earth First. Ecoterroists extraordinaire. I love the hammer and sickle like logo.

860 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:45:30am

My economy prediction? The economy will tank solely because of Obama's tax increases. Period.

Take it to the bank. /or not.

861 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:46:25am
862 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:46:48am

re: #838 Lawrence Schmerel

Dear Mother Earth,

Thanks for the lumber.

-Sas

Now, about how those Hippies leave their campsites, well, they certainly have a way of leaving them worse off than when they showed up.

863 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:47:20am

re: #856 turn

just hit top 10, it's #1


Good Post! Ding!

864 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:47:44am

re: #857 Spare O'Lake

Does anyone know whether membership in the Jewish Defence League is legal, or whether the organization itself is legal in the US and/or Canada?
Also, how many members do they have?

Word of advice: Stay away.

865 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:48:13am

re: #813 Killgore Trout

re: #834 badger1970

Could it be political correctness? Looking inward at some of the articles, the wording and word play are slight skews to the manner at which flotus dresses. Fashion is way beyond my station.

I get some of that. They agree with most of the posters on here that she's no raving beauty, but then they go on to say how approachable and friendly she dresses.
It might just be spillover for the rock star, hip thing that BHO has going. I think they just like her, thus the fawning. Note the line about her being able to wear a wet suit and get credit for it.

866 turn  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:48:33am

re: #861 taxfreekiller

Kos Kid Kult of Kankers ='s Democrats for the next 50 years

progressing to stupid

You see this?
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
They are starting to eat their own

867 KenJen  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:48:55am

re: #860 FrogMarch

My economy prediction? The economy will tank solely because of Obama's tax increases. Period.

Take it to the bank. /or not.

Bumper sticker? Obama Read Our Lips: No New Taxes--You Dumb*ss.

868 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:49:00am

re: #722 soxfan4life

Before she is done Michelle will make Eleanor Roosevelt look like a fashion icon.

It's bound to improve.

Isn't it?

869 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:49:11am

re: #866 turn

You see this?
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
They are starting to eat their own

So are we sometimes?

870 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:49:40am

re: #815 Kosh's Shadow

If I were Netanyahu, I would make public announcements that no further talks will be held until the Palis turn over the ax murderer to Israel.
Any "authorities" that give him any awards will not be allowed in any Pali government or in peace talks. Any buildings named after him will be bombed.
And I would reply to all pressure to accept a Palestinian state with a remark that "We will be glad to make peace with Palestinians who recognize our right to exist, but we will NOT accept an entity which honors those who ax murder children."

exactly, it is time for israel to say enough is enough.
my god, how much more evidence do they need to see what kind of mad beasts are circling,
waiting to devour them.

871 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:50:56am

re: #870 nyc redneck

exactly, it is time for israel to say enough is enough.
my god, how much more evidence do they need to see what kind of mad beasts are circling,
waiting to devour them.

"The Guardian" hasn't reported on the axe murder. When they do, they will probably find a way to blame it on Avigdor Lieberman.

872 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:51:03am

re: #730 cvandeve

Hello,
This is my first post here, though I have been a lurker for a long time.
Any comments on "Uncle Ted", the Alaskan senator having all charges dropped against him, now that the elections are over and the Dems control congress.

They had better investigate this thing.

873 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:51:17am

re: #799 Iron Fist

I am seriously hoping that by the next election the bloom will be off the rose and all those "moderates" and "undecideds" who voted Obama will not re-elect him. Plus all of those college aged students will be out in the work force by then and will say "WTF?" when they start getting a paycheck and see what a big chunk of it goes to the government. Here in the south, if he tries to legislate any kind of gun control there'll be a shit storm down here that will be bi-partisan and bi-racial for sure.

874 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:51:20am
875 turn  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:51:22am

re: #869 Nevergiveup

So are we sometimes?

I don't think we've stooped so low as to adopt Saul Alinsky tactics ... yet.

876 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:51:41am

re: #868 J.D.

It's bound to improve.

Isn't it?

Given the slobbering done by the MSM I'd look for her to be attending functions in the summertime in a pair of Daisy Dukes and a Halter top.

877 irongrampa  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:51:47am

re: #849 yma o hyd


I take exception to the term senior moment.

Being a senior, ALL my moments are.

878 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:52:07am

re: #870 nyc redneck

exactly, it is time for israel to say enough is enough.
my god, how much more evidence do they need to see what kind of mad beasts are circling,
waiting to devour them.

I wish the rest of the world would stop pressuring Israel to make "peace" with these beasts (apologies to real beasts), instead of saying that Israel turned them into beasts.

879 DistantThunder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:52:32am
880 jaunte  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:52:40am

re: #877 irongrampa

I take exception to the term senior moment.

Being a senior, ALL my moments are.

Those are the moments we're all living for.

881 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:52:56am

re: #741 yma o hyd

I can't begin to say how very much I'm looking forward to the meeting between Michelle and Madame Sarkozy.
It'll be sooo unfair ... teeheehee!


When will that happen?

882 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:53:28am

re: #875 turn

I don't think we've stooped so low as to adopt Saul Alinsky tactics ... yet.

Maybe, but look what McCain's lackeys and other Republicans have/are doing to Sarah Palin.

883 opnion  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:53:45am

re: #818 soxfan4life

So being the only wife out of the group to not dress formally for state dinners as well as break major Rules of Protocol and touch the Queen is cool nowadays. Jackie O had more class, grace and dignity blowing her nose than Michelle could ever hope to have.

IMO Michelle is a vulgarian. The Ivy League did not change that.
I have seen banana spiders with more grace.

884 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:53:45am

re: #860 FrogMarch

My economy prediction? The economy will tank solely because of Obama's tax increases. Period.

Take it to the bank. /or not.

That's what most of the GOP thinks, but if the tax cut roll back in the top bracket has little effect and the economy turns around, we'll need the GOP to keep them from adding more taxes.

885 DistantThunder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:54:13am

re: #878 Kosh's Shadow

I wish the rest of the world would stop pressuring Israel to make "peace" with these beasts (apologies to real beasts), instead of saying that Israel turned them into beasts.

It's what used to happen to women in abusive situations. They would sit there with blackened eyes and the relatives would encourage her to kiss and make-up. It's the lazy relations way to get on with their own lives and lie to themselves that there is real peace.

886 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:54:14am

re: #879 DistantThunder

Obama Bows to Saudi King

Words Fail.

Maybe he dropped an Ipod?

887 Killer Tomato  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:54:20am

re: #850 Killian Bundy

The acting director of the U.S. Census Bureau, Thomas Mesenbourg, told CNSNews.com that the bureau intends to work with community organizations to make sure every illegal alien in the United States is counted in the 2010 Census.

This needs to be screamed from the rooftops. This is exactly how they're going to turn us into a permanent serf underclass, and I'll bet the majority of working stiffs haven't a clue about what's underfoot. (they're too busy working, raising families, paying taxes, volunteering their time....)

888 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:54:21am

re: #754 opnion

What a shock that was. College kids never drink underage.

LOL!

889 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:54:37am

Did You Remember To Kill the Children?

The 911 hijackers were none too concerned there were infants and children on the four hijacked planes. The seven words above, DYRTKTC says it all. Children are innocent. Children usually cannot defend themselves and targeting children is considered, in almost every society and civilization, an act of base evil.

But not all. The Jewish children of 1939 had close to 100% fatality rate under Hitler. Sixty four years after the victory over Hitler, his disciples, modern militant Islamists, leftists and most senior European foreign ministry officials call for, or excuse, the murder of Jewish children.

Six years ago, I sat at my Passover Seder table sick with the realization that 30 Jews were dead and dozens more were horribly injured from a suicide suitcase bomb on a Seder just like mine. The whole point of a Seder is to share the experience with children. The whole point of the people who attacked the Seder was to annihilate the Jewish people.

Now Jews do have a unique history. I accept that some people don't like us; but I don't ask anyone to like us. I demand only the right for my children and I to be able to live. It is not much. But for those who target Jewish children, it is too much. All over the world, everywhere the Jewish people live, Jewish children are kept under guard as no other children on earth are protected. Our kids are special to us, so that is where they aim.

Today's attack on two Jewish children with axes shows that the slightest crack in the defense of our children inspires the DYRTKTC minded scum of this earth- they can ignore a child's cries of pain to kill them. Today's attacker remembered to kill the children.

Does anyone really think smashing an ax into seven year old can be a consecrated act? Better yet, what political or religious goal deserves anything other than a nuclear bomb if DYRTKTC is the core part of their "moral" existence.

It is moral to defend yourself. It is moral to take whatever reasonable steps are necessary to survive; you have a right to do so. This is the bedrock all human morality and law. It is moral to defend yourself by aiming at those who seek you harm. It is not moral to aim at those who are not a threat or cannot defend themselves.

Imagine taking a puppy into the back yard to kill it with a hammer. Imagine doing this a to child. A child. But this is the holy goal of The world never learns. DYRTKTC is our past, present an future.

Yet, it is a 100% certainty that, if the barbarian who committed this axe murder could be put on an al Jazaeera TV show, not only would he be given air time, he would be given the same hero treatment and "warm wishes" as Samir Kuntar , the murderer who killed a child by breaking her skull against a rock. [note to PM Netanyahu, kill Kuntar]

For the Obama administration and others who think that signing a treaty or handing over land to Palestinians will solve anything, I have bad news: the problem is not that Jews live in Hebron, the the problem is DYRTKTC. Until you destroy the Beast, what chance can people live together peacefully? Until you face the fact that the Islamic world and most Palestinian media function under the core "principle" of DYRTKTC. You can force Israel to sign any treaty you like, you will get war instead. Go anywhere in the Islamic blogosphere from the "Islamist Thinkers" (there is an oxymoron!) to the comment pages of al Jazeera and the Arab media of London and everywhere you look, everything you see will have DYRTKTC as its intellectual foundation.

The world can say and do as it pleases, the Jewish people will defend our children. Do not lecture us where to live when they do nothing about DYRTKTC.

The world never learns. DYRTKTC is our past, present an future. We will not lower our guard in the face of mindless genocidal hatred. We all face the beast and must destroy it. We must never forget what they remember or our children will die.

890 badger1970  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:55:03am

re: #872 J.D.

The damage has already been done. The dems got want they wanted out of the election. Sure Stevens look, walks and quacks like a crook. No threat, no investigation. But remember "cold cash" is still walking free.

891 saberry0530  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:55:30am

Best Obama joke yet!

The Dept Of Defense briefed the president this morning. They told President Obama that 2 Brazilian soldiers were killed in Iraq .

To everyone's surprise, all the color drained from Obama's face. Then he collapsed onto his desk, head in his hands, visibly shaken, almost in tears.

Finally, he composed himself and asked, 'Just how many is a brazilian?'

This is not surprising, since he obviously has no understanding of billion or trillion either

892 DistantThunder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:55:42am

re: #886 Nevergiveup

Maybe he dropped an Ipod?

I think he does a lot of this with Michelle. Guys like this with dominating wives almost always cheat....it's just a matter of time.

893 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:55:43am

re: #763 yma o hyd

Thank you.

894 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:56:03am
895 Rednek  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:56:06am

A good project for college freshmen:

Compare and contrast prisoners' nutrition at Gitmo and prisoners' nutrition, more typical of much of human history, evident in Zimbabwe.

896 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:57:13am

Japan says they will go to the UN this weekend if the Norks launch their missile...

Everyone is chickenshit to shoot it down... And we lose again...

897 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:57:23am

re: #864 Nevergiveup

Word of advice: Stay away.

Is the topic off limits here?

898 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:57:43am

re: #858 VegasRick

Killgore, you are about to "jump the shark". This admins "solutions" are about as un-American as they come. Please don't buy into the BS.

Well it's looking like TARP did its job.....
Is the rush to exit TARP a trap?

There's probably no better indication out there that TARP was effective in halting the collapse of the financial system than the recent run of banks looking to exit the program.

Since the middle of March, at least five banks have said they will either not accept TARP funds or they will return the funds received with interest due to Uncle Sam. Four banks that took a combined $338 million actually returned the cash Tuesday.

They are repaying at 5% interest. There aren't many ways to make a reliable 5% in this economy so it's looking like a good deal. Also the fears of pay caps for executives seems to make banks extra eager to get off the government dole as quickly as possible. Same thing goes for the GM bailout.

The stimulus is another matter. That money isn't going to get repaid and it's still too early to know if it's going to work but you have to consider the possibility that it might work. We'll just have to wait and see.

899 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:57:59am

re: #896 tfc3rid

Japan says they will go to the UN this weekend if the Norks launch their missile...

Everyone is chickenshit to shoot it down... And we lose again...

Do you think Kim Jong Il really gives a shit about the UN

900 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:58:22am
901 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:58:33am

re: #889 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

I cried while reading your post. I can't imagine such horror.

902 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:58:38am

re: #879 DistantThunder

Obama Bows to Saudi King

Words Fail.

look at that awkward fool.
he is the only one groveling.
curtseying like only a dorky metrosexual can.

903 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:58:48am

re: #899 soxfan4life

Do you think Kim Jong Il really gives a shit about the UN

Of course not.... He just wants $$ for selling the technology... Problem is, we really need to tell this piece of shit 'no more'...

904 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:59:12am

re: #891 saberry0530

That's a recycled Bush joke.

905 Cognito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:59:23am

re: #811 Nevergiveup

That sounds like a big ol' pile of anonymous nonsense to me.

The biggest air force in history is "strained" by a Presidential field trip? Don't believe it. They may have shuffled some assets, sure. Big deal.

906 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:59:38am

re: #828 Killgore Trout

How did you like Lost last night. I didn't get to watch the whole thing but it seemed like kind of a weak episode. Looks like they're going to milk the angle about will young Linus die or not.

If you didn't see the end, then you need to wait till you see it online or Tivo or something. I won't spoil it, but you'll have an answer to Ben life or death condition.

Not weak at all (IMHO). Kate centric, now we find out why she did go back, to find Claire and right her wrong (the lie about the baby).

Remember, as per the producers, and the fans, LOST is a character driven show at the bottom line, and you got a good dose of that last night.

If they milked anything, it was clarification of the time travel rules. Since the episode was titled "What happened, happened," I though we were going to get some final "set in stone" time travel rules, as per the mythos of this show.

We did learn one NEW time travel concept that the writers are using, the possibility of more than one time line. That's been suggested but not confirmed up till now.

907 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:59:42am

re: #899 soxfan4life

Do you think Kim Jong Il really gives a shit about the UN

walk softly and carry a big carrot.

908 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:59:43am

re: #898 Killgore Trout

They are repaying at 5% interest. There aren't many ways to make a reliable 5% in this economy so it's looking like a good deal. Also the fears of pay caps for executives seems to make banks extra eager to get off the government dole as quickly as possible. Same thing goes for the GM bailout.

The stimulus is another matter. That money isn't going to get repaid and it's still too early to know if it's going to work but you have to consider the possibility that it might work. We'll just have to wait and see.

Funny how most of the money is going to be released in 2010. So if he buys the midterm elections with it, will it be considered a success?

909 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 7:59:48am

re: #898 Killgore Trout

Problem is, they aren't returning the $$ because they don't need it, but because they don't want to be controlled by the State...

910 itellu3times  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:00:02am

re: #891 saberry0530

It's a good joke, but it was told about Dubya three years ago.

911 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:00:11am

re: #877 irongrampa

I take exception to the term senior moment.

Being a senior, ALL my moments are.

Aww, sorry - being a senior meself, I use that expression to disguise the fact that sometimes certain cells in my brain aren't working the way they used to, alas.
No disrespect intended - please forgive me!

912 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:01:09am

re: #906 Walter L. Newton

OK, I'll have to watch online. I'm a little bummed they stopped rerunning the previous week's episode with subtitles. Maybe I can find those online.

913 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:01:20am

re: #911 yma o hyd

Aww, sorry - being a senior meself, I use that expression to disguise the fact that sometimes certain cells in my brain aren't working the way they used to, alas.
No disrespect intended - please forgive me!

It scares me to think of how bad it will be when I hit 70. I'm mid fifties now and can't remember shit!

914 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:01:34am

re: #901 redstateredneck

I cried while reading your post. I can't imagine such horror.

me too. my heart aches.

915 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:01:35am

re: #879 DistantThunder

Obama Bows to Saudi King

Words Fail.

Barf bags needed ...

916 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:01:43am

re: #800 avanti

A far more pressing question is occupying great British minds: Does Michelle Obama wear Spanx under her pencil skirts?

Such is the obsession with all things Michelle that readers of London's Daily Mail must ponder whether the First Lady's "toned physique is [due] to more than just hours in the gym."

The newspaper speculated on a so-called visible panty line across her right thigh - a tell-tale sign that the invisible support system slimming bottom and thighs has miserably failed in its job. Oh, the shame! But this alleged victim need not worry one bit.

The succession of chic outfits Obama has showcased here has won universal approval in the British press.

For her daytime appearance, she wore a springlike ensemble - a green gingham skirt, white top and cream-colored cardigan - from J. Crew, complemented by classic pearls and elegant bracelets.

For the queen, she wore a black-and-white ensemble and white pearls. Thankfully, she covered her sleeveless top with a black sweater while meeting Her Majesty. Though Obama's toned arms are magnificent, the British press would have howled if she'd gone sleeveless. ...


There's nothing wrong with Spanx and J Crew.
Really.
Depending.

917 Killer Tomato  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:01:55am

re: #879 DistantThunder

Obama Bows to Saudi King

Words Fail.

[MASSIVE STRING OF EXPLETIVES DELETED]

918 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:02:39am

re: #917 Killer Tomato

[MASSIVE STRING OF EXPLETIVES DELETED]

Well, at least he has not done a 'sword dance' yet... Now, That one hurt...

919 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:02:41am

re: #879 DistantThunder

Obama Bows to Saudi King

Words Fail.

Bush sword danced with him. Presidents have sucked up to the oil sheiks for years. It is all 0's policies and statements that bother me.

920 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:02:53am

re: #905 Cognito

That sounds like a big ol' pile of anonymous nonsense to me.

The biggest air force in history is "strained" by a Presidential field trip? Don't believe it. They may have shuffled some assets, sure. Big deal.

They're strained from both the Presidential Trip and the job of replenishing supplies for our soldiers. Of course replenishing the troops is minor compared to taxiing around 0bama's traveling fan base, the Media.

921 irongrampa  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:02:53am

re: #911 yma o hyd

Not offended in the slightest. That was my poor attempt at humor.

However, your explanation could easily be used to excuse a lot of the "moments" I've had in my life.

922 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:02:53am

re: #881 J.D.

When will that happen?

I believe this weekend, or rather, after he leaves Lunnon.
Thats tomorrow/day after ...

Gotta find some Fwench papers ...

923 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:03:01am

i wonder if he groveled to anyone else,
or was it just the moslem.

924 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:03:05am

re: #793 SasquatchOnSteroids

Ha !

Climate Crime Scene

You can't make this $hit up.

925 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:03:20am

re: #915 yma o hyd

Barf bags needed ...

Yeah, but can he do the sword dance?

926 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:03:27am

re: #897 Spare O'Lake

Is the topic off limits here?

Not sure about that--it may be, since they are a bunch of kooks and do advocate senseless violence. But also, they are a tiny and mostly irrelevant bunch of has beens and never was.

927 jaunte  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:04:22am

re: #923 nyc redneck

i wonder if he groveled to anyone else,
or was it just the moslem money.

Maybe this is why.

928 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:04:32am

re: #923 nyc redneck

i wonder if he groveled to anyone else,
or was it just the moslem.

If it was for anyone else it was just for show.

929 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:04:35am
930 Attaboid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:04:36am

Anyone know which dignitary is visiting Montreal?
A dozen cop cars surrounding/escorting a black limo and 3 SUVs just headed west on Sherbrooke and Guy.

931 KenJen  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:04:45am

re: #889 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

I'm crying. All true and so sad. The world never learns. When these savages finish the Jews off (God forbid) who's children will be next?

932 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:04:57am

re: #879 DistantThunder

Obama Bows to Saudi King

Words Fail.

When you find a link that says or shows that was a bow, be sure and post it. That would be major news.

933 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:05:07am

re: #905 Cognito

That sounds like a big ol' pile of anonymous nonsense to me.

The biggest air force in history is "strained" by a Presidential field trip? Don't believe it. They may have shuffled some assets, sure. Big deal.

I don't think it is nonsense, but I also don't think it only applies to Obama's trips no matter how many lackeys are joining him this time.

934 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:05:08am

Y'all reckon he gave the Saudi King a gold plated ipod?

935 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:05:39am

Mitt is making sense.....
Romney strikes bipartisan tone at GOP fundraiser

"I also think it's important for us to nod to the president when he's right," Romney said, after chiding the president's budget. "He will not always be wrong, and he's done some things I agree with."

Romney, who spoke at a dinner for the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said he's pleased with the president's plans to "finish the job" in Iraq and Afghanistan -- lines that drew applause from the partisan audience. He also applauded the president for standing up to the auto industry.

"I hope he continues to be tough and shows some backbone because that industry is not going to make it unless we have real backbone and get those guys to fundamentally restructure all of their obligations," he said.

The former businessman even offered faint praise for Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, saying that after a series of initial missteps, "I think he's finally getting close to the right answer."

Although this makes him a better potential leader in the eyes of Americans I think this stuff will sink his chances of getting the GOP nomination.

936 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:05:44am

re: #930 Attaboid

Anyone know which dignitary is visiting Montreal?
A dozen cop cars surrounding/escorting a black limo and 3 SUVs just headed west on Sherbrooke and Guy.

Maybe that's Joe Biden's undisclosed location. Gotta admit, Canada is the last place I'd think to look for him.

937 irongrampa  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:05:55am

re: #932 avanti

The PICTURE isn't sufficient?

938 danrudy  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:06:28am

check out this photoshopped pic from AFP....
THis is currently a pic on yahoo.


photoshopped artistic pali flag amid gaza ruins...

Now they are posting artistic pictures of the struggle of the pali's. Check out this black and white pic with the beautiful pali flag in full color.
ANother photoshopped pic from our friends in the media

939 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:06:45am

re: #891 saberry0530

Best Obama joke yet!

The Dept Of Defense briefed the president this morning. They told President Obama that 2 Brazilian soldiers were killed in Iraq .

To everyone's surprise, all the color drained from Obama's face. Then he collapsed onto his desk, head in his hands, visibly shaken, almost in tears.

Finally, he composed himself and asked, 'Just how many is a brazilian?'

This is not surprising, since he obviously has no understanding of billion or trillion either

That's a recycled Bush joke, and wasn't funny back then.

940 jaunte  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:06:51am

re: #937 irongrampa

We must wait for the MSM to tell us what it means.
///

941 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:06:52am

re: #896 tfc3rid

Japan says they will go to the UN this weekend if the Norks launch their missile...

Everyone is chickenshit to shoot it down... And we lose again...

The Norks are threatening over it:

"If Japan imprudently carries out an act of intercepting our peaceful satellite ballistic missile, our people’s army will hand a thunderbolt of fire to not only interceptor means already deployed, but also key targets," said a report Thursday by the North’s official Korean Central News Agency that quoted the general staff of its military.


[I did correct the quote]

942 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:06:54am

re: #934 redstateredneck

Y'all reckon he gave the Saudi King a gold plated ipod?

0bama probably asked him to sign his personal Koran.

943 aussiemagpie  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:06:56am

Goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!

Tonight's view of OZ...

Lennox Heads, a gorgeous little town on the far north coast of NSW

944 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:07:07am

re: #889 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

A trillion updings for that post - truer words were never written.

I wish all those who keep telling us 'its for the children' would remember that in this world, there are children to whom this does not necessarily apply, and those are the Jewish children.

Never forget that.

945 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:07:21am

re: #937 irongrampa

Sure, he might have seen a shiny coin on the carpet, and was bending to pick it up as they shook hands....

/not

946 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:07:49am

re: #838 Lawrence Schmerel

I don't know what to say about these people except, thanks for the laughs.


I wonder if this is a spoof.

How bizarre!

947 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:08:00am

re: #938 danrudy

check out this photoshopped pic from AFP....
THis is currently a pic on yahoo.


photoshopped artistic pali flag amid gaza ruins...

Now they are posting artistic pictures of the struggle of the pali's. Check out this black and white pic with the beautiful pali flag in full color.
ANother photoshopped pic from our friends in the media


Fucking propaganda.

948 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:08:38am
949 jaunte  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:08:50am

re: #935 Killgore Trout

Here's the key word:
"I hope he continues to be tough and shows some backbone because that industry is not going to make it unless we have real backbone and get those guys to fundamentally restructure all of their obligations," he said.

950 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:09:27am
951 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:09:34am

re: #850 Killian Bundy

Census Bureau: We’ll Work with ‘Community Organizations’ to Count All Illegal Aliens in 2010

Oh joy!

/so nice, they'll probably count 'em at least twice!

LOL!

952 wiffersnapper  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:09:39am

Actually, this is a good quote. It makes sense!

953 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:10:16am

re: #884 avanti

That's what most of the GOP thinks, but if the tax cut roll back in the top bracket has little effect and the economy turns around, we'll need the GOP to keep them from adding more taxes.

The tax cut roll back in the top bracket?
That doesn't make sense. obama is planning on adding an even larger tax burden to the highest income earners. (He thinks they don't pay enough now)
Plus the democrats are going to let the Bush tax cuts expire; which were across the board tax cuts to all levels of income. No matter how the DNC media spins it - that IS a tax increase. Tax increases during a recession are a recipe for economic disaster. But Obama must pay for all his new spending and stimulus.

954 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:10:56am

re: #951 J.D.

LOL!

Wow, our population is 340 million?

955 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:11:04am

re: #913 redstateredneck

It scares me to think of how bad it will be when I hit 70. I'm mid fifties now and can't remember shit!

Thats because you're scared!
Anybody who is scared and/or under a lot of stress tends to forget things.
The more one gets upset about it, the worse it gets.

Actually, doing something like crosswords, or Sudoku really helps!
(I'm a Sudoku addict, sad, I know ...)

956 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:11:38am

re: #939 avanti

That's a recycled Bush joke, and wasn't funny back then.

No, but if you want to know how many a Brazilian is, just ask our own Occassional Reader.

957 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:11:59am

re: #954 Ward Cleaver

Wow, our population is 340 million?

And yet after this census we will have at least 350 million registered Democrats.

958 axegrinder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:11:59am

re: #915 yma o hyd

Maybe he's just bending over to pick up his dropped pack of American cigarettes.

959 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:12:12am

re: #937 irongrampa

The PICTURE isn't sufficient?

There's a picture that makes BHO look like he's about to kiss Biden too. He could be looking down at something (look at the guy to his right) he could have tripped, he could have dropped his Blackberry. If a POTUS bowed we'd have read about it, and may yet.

960 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:12:15am

re: #876 soxfan4life

Given the slobbering done by the MSM I'd look for her to be attending functions in the summertime in a pair of Daisy Dukes and a Halter top.

I wonder if you can get those at J. Crew?

961 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:12:48am

re: #919 Kosh's Shadow

Bush sword danced with him. Presidents have sucked up to the oil sheiks for years. It is all 0's policies and statements that bother me.

Sucking up to the Saudi King is one thing - bowing down so deeply that it looks as if he's kissing his hand is magnitudes worse than just sucking up!

962 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:12:50am

re: #956 Honorary Yooper

A Brazilian? About $32 at most beautician's shops.

963 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:12:55am

re: #616 yma o hyd

All you Lizards, look away - now!

Lizardesses - what do you think:

Morning visit to 10 Downing Street

Dinner at 10 Downing Street

Oh, dear God. I don't even know where to start. In the dinner photo, the sweater is buttoned wrong (misaligned with the holes) and it doesn't match the dress (which might by quite pretty, but is probably sleeveless). The morning photo -- I'm at a loss. How did she think that sweater went with that ugly skirt? Has she ever, even once, considered a nice red business suit?

The other lady is Mrs Brown - and the dinner was for all the G20 spouses.

You go first ...

:-)))

964 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:13:05am

re: #959 avanti

Maybe he's about to fellate him?

965 axegrinder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:13:13am

re: #936 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Brian Adams is going to pick up a pack of cigarettes.

966 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:13:14am

re: #879 DistantThunder

Obama Bows to Saudi King

Words Fail.

Nah.

He just tripped.

967 danrudy  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:13:17am

link of photoshopped pali propoganda from AFP on yahoo with the link to yahoo news pics
photoshopped pali propoganda pic in yahoo...

968 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:13:31am

re: #962 Kenneth

A Brazilian? About $32 at most beautician's shops.

Illegal in New Jersey.

969 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:13:59am

re: #962 Kenneth

A Brazilian? About $32 at most beautician's shops.

And about to be illegal in New Jersey, IIRC.

970 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:14:09am

re: #921 irongrampa

Not offended in the slightest. That was my poor attempt at humor.

However, your explanation could easily be used to excuse a lot of the "moments" I've had in my life.

There ye go!
Its an excellent excuse - the young whippersnappers never know where to look or what to say when I come out with that!
Keeps them on their toes, teeheehee!

971 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:14:22am

re: #964 rightside

Maybe he's about to fellate him?

Wouldn't that make Larry Sinclair jealous?

972 Lincolntf  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:14:52am

re: #969 Honorary Yooper

Illegal Brazilians are great. I wouldn't have a lawn without them.

973 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:15:00am

Muslim workers receive $1.35 million under a religious discrimination settlement.

The money will go to 128 Somali Muslims who claim that St. Cloud-based Gold'n Plump violated their religious rights by refusing to allow them prayer breaks during work hours

974 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:15:06am

re: #890 badger1970

True.

975 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:15:34am
976 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:15:45am

Howdy.

Dow is back up over the 8,000 mark... that's good, I s'pose.
Currently 8016, up 255 for the day so far.

977 lawhawk  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:16:07am

re: #968 soxfan4life

Naw, they gave it up.. I guess the politicos like their folks to be all clean and articulate. /

978 rightside  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:16:15am

re: #971 soxfan4life

LOL!

979 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:16:26am

re: #976 Occasional Reader

Howdy.

Dow is back up over the 8,000 mark... that's good, I s'pose.
Currently 8016, up 255 for the day so far.

What did they gag Geithner?

980 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:16:41am

re: #950 taxfreekiller

on the bow photo

the real deal is the others watching and to looks on their faces

France got a big laugh out of it?

Yep - and just think what the other Ayrab leaders will think when they see this photo ...

981 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:16:53am

re: #976 Occasional Reader

Howdy.

Dow is back up over the 8,000 mark... that's good, I s'pose.
Currently 8016, up 255 for the day so far.

Obama's out of the coutry, and Geithner hasn't opened his mouth yet today.

982 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:16:59am

re: #963 doppelganglander

Quien es mas dowdy?

983 Mr. In get Mr. Out  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:17:28am

re: #973 FrogMarch

Muslim workers receive $1.35 million under a religious discrimination settlement.

And my religion says I can only work one hour per day for $20,000 each day.

984 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:17:34am

re: #904 redstateredneck

That's a recycled Bush joke.

I like it even better, then.

985 alegrias  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:17:40am

re: #935 Killgore Trout

* * * *
Mitt Romney is right we should encourage Pres. Obama to surge in Afghanistan and do what needs to be done to defend our country.

As John McCain's 97 year old mother said last year and Mandy Manners reminds those who sat on the bench, sometimes you have to hold your nose and do the right thing, for the country.

986 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:17:54am

re: #958 axegrinder

Maybe he's just bending over to pick up his dropped pack of American cigarettes.

If ye ask me, it looks as if he thought he was supposed to curtsey ...

987 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:17:57am

re: #966 J.D.

Nah.

He just tripped.

I'm also leery about drawing conclusions based on one still photo. Could well have been a stumble, or whatever.

988 Gella  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:18:00am

re: #957 soxfan4life

And yet after this census we will have at least 350 million registered Democrats.

and 500millon loose their job every week

989 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:18:15am

Paris deputy mayor calls for Shalit's release

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Well now his release has got to be a sure thing?
/

990 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:18:45am
991 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:18:48am

re: #955 yma o hyd

Thats because you're scared!
Anybody who is scared and/or under a lot of stress tends to forget things.
The more one gets upset about it, the worse it gets.

Actually, doing something like crosswords, or Sudoku really helps!
(I'm a Sudoku addict, sad, I know ...)

reine, vxbush and I play online scrabble together. Maybe that will help me?

992 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:18:52am

re: #983 Mr. In get Mr. Out

And my religion says I can only work one hour per day for $20,000 each day.

Here we go.

993 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:18:54am

re: #918 tfc3rid

Well, at least he has not done a 'sword dance' yet... Now, That one hurt...

I don't think the sheik would trust the 0 with a sword.

994 irongrampa  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:18:55am

re: #959 avanti

Spin.

995 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:18:56am

re: #932 avanti

When you find a link that says or shows that was a bow, be sure and post it. That would be major news.

What does it look like to you? He dropped his Blackberry?

996 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:18:59am

Pak opposition leader in A Qaeda's pocket?

Nawaz Sharif was reported to have received massive campaign donations from Usama bin Laden in his first runs for Prime Minister in Pakistan, and I have described him as al-Qaeda's useful 'bought and paid for' tool, though not a 'fellow traveler.'

True? Or is this just another party's way of undermining Sharif? This is Pakistan after all, and all political parties are corrupt and ruthless.

997 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:19:29am

re: #922 yma o hyd

I believe this weekend, or rather, after he leaves Lunnon.
Thats tomorrow/day after ...

Gotta find some Fwench papers ...

Ooooo...I can't wait.
Maybe Ms. Sarkozy will frump it up a bit...as a friendly gesture.

998 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:19:35am

re: #976 Occasional Reader

Howdy.

Dow is back up over the 8,000 mark... that's good, I s'pose.
Currently 8016, up 255 for the day so far.

March saw the largest monthly increase in 7 years, I expect some profit taking, it's moving up too fast. Of course, it could start a snow ball effect, consumer confidence is way up, if they start buying, then we're off to the races.

999 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:19:55am

re: #968 soxfan4life

Illegal in New Jersey.


The garden state.

1000 Cognito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:20:18am

re: #920 soxfan4life

They're strained from both the Presidential Trip and the job of replenishing supplies for our soldiers. Of course replenishing the troops is minor compared to taxiing around 0bama's traveling fan base, the Media.

Ah, no. The press pays for its seats.

1001 FrogMarch  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:20:28am

re: #935 Killgore Trout

From link - Romney says-

"I think the American people are seeing through what's happening," he said. "The Democrats are trying to use this crisis as a way to advance their philosophy of the supremacy of government, and I don't think they're being fooled."


Romney claimed the president "incorrectly believes that the 2008 elections settled the great issues that divide America. I don't believe that's the case. I watched the debates. The great issues were rarely discussed at all."

No kidding.

1002 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:20:29am

re: #996 Kenneth

Pak opposition leader in A Qaeda's pocket?

True? Or is this just another party's way of undermining Sharif? This is Pakistan after all, and all political parties are corrupt and ruthless.

Except news like that might not undermine Sharif, but actually boast his support!

1003 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:20:44am

re: #990 buzzsawmonkey

Maybe the President asked the Saudi king to help him practice for when he meets the Pope and kisses the papal ring.

No, my working theory is that it was a botched attempt at "The Electric Slide".

1004 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:20:47am

re: #938 danrudy

check out this photoshopped pic from AFP....
THis is currently a pic on yahoo.

photoshopped artistic pali flag amid gaza ruins...

Now they are posting artistic pictures of the struggle of the pali's. Check out this black and white pic with the beautiful pali flag in full color.
ANother photoshopped pic from our friends in the media

I'd rather see a smoking crater with a Pali flag in it.

1005 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:20:51am

re: #959 avanti

There's a picture that makes BHO look like he's about to kiss Biden too. He could be looking down at something (look at the guy to his right) he could have tripped, he could have dropped his Blackberry. If a POTUS bowed we'd have read about it, and may yet.


And who exactly would report it? The MSM, HAHAHA!

1006 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:21:12am

re: #969 Honorary Yooper

WTF? Is it illegal in New Jersey for a shop to give a Brazillian wax or is it illegal to have one? Is it legal to cross state lines with a shaved cooch?

1007 VegasRick  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:21:27am

re: #1004 Ward Cleaver

I'd rather see a smoking crater with a Pali flag in it.

/sorry.

1008 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:21:33am

re: #987 Occasional Reader

I'm also leery about drawing conclusions based on one still photo. Could well have been a stumble, or whatever.

Thing is - if it was a stumble, the MFM seem to prefer not to mention this, as it makes the PB0 look as clumsy as Pres. Bush.
So, for them, its better to have him look likean obsequious fool, rather than a stumbling prat.
Politically very unwise - if that is indeed what happened.

1009 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:21:39am

re: #990 buzzsawmonkey

Maybe the President asked the Saudi king to help him practice for when he meets the Pope and kisses the papal ring.

Obama will probably give the Pope a "Footprints" poster or an Ipod loaded with Time-Life's "Monsters of Christian Rock" collection...

1010 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:21:40am

re: #979 soxfan4life

What did they gag Geithner?

I think it's the G20 going well. Watch for the G 20 statement, if it's positive, the market will keep going.

1011 alegrias  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:21:47am

American citizen/ terrorist seeks recruits in somalia--per Catherine Herridge on Fox News.

Fair-skinned dude with a beret, looking like Che's reincarnation, is captured speaking arabic to fellow jihadists, telling them they're suffering without ice and Western things now, for glorious jihad.

Niiiiiiiiice. NOT. He could be any American.

1012 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:21:59am
1013 Macker  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:22:20am

re: #1004 Ward Cleaver

I'd rather see a smoking crater with a no Pali flag in it.

There, fixed that for ya! And Good Morning Lizards!

1014 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:22:33am

re: #972 Lincolntf

Illegal Brazilians are great. I wouldn't have a lawn without them.

That depends on how close your like your grass trimmed doesn't it?

1015 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:22:35am

re: #1006 Kenneth

WTF? Is it illegal in New Jersey for a shop to give a Brazillian wax or is it illegal to have one? Is it legal to cross state lines with a shaved cooch?

There's many volunteers to become inspectors for NJ...

1016 DistantThunder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:22:40am

re: #932 avanti

When you find a link that says or shows that was a bow, be sure and post it. That would be major news.

A Soviet defector in an interview said that in their recruiting and brainwashing and de-moralizing of people they want to turn to be pro-soviet - they would hype the utopia of a communist state. It was so effective, he said, that even when you showed them photos of gulags they wouldn't believe it.

You can see Obama bowing to the Saudi King in the link - whether you want to believe it or not.

1017 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:22:43am

re: #998 avanti

March saw the largest monthly increase in 7 years, I expect some profit taking, it's moving up too fast. Of course, it could start a snow ball effect, consumer confidence is way up, if they start buying, then we're off to the races.

And then, the inflationary effect of all that money they've been printing in the basement kicks in.

Also, oil most likely skyrockets again, based in part on the Obama Adminstration's promise that we'll be sure not to look for new sources.

Ugh.

1018 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:22:58am

re: #991 redstateredneck

reine, vxbush and I play online scrabble together. Maybe that will help me?

Absolutely!
Scrabble is excellent!
Hope you win lots of times!
(Forgive me, {reine} and {vxbush}!)

1019 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:23:04am

re: #1009 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Obama will probably give the Pope a "Footprints" poster or an Ipod loaded with Time-Life's "Monsters of Christian Rock" collection...

Buddy Jesus.

1020 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:23:28am
1021 Macker  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:23:29am

re: #1009 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Obama will probably give the Pope a "Footprints" poster or an Ipod loaded with Time-Life's "Monsters of Christian Rock" collection...

He could also give the Pope an iPod with Rev. Wright's sermons installed.

/snicker

1022 irongrampa  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:23:33am

The Committee has issued the latest directive, so it's the lawn for now.

Have an excellent day, good people.

1023 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:23:34am

re: #1018 yma o hyd

Absolutely!
Scrabble is excellent!
Hope you win lots of times!
(Forgive me, {reine} and {vxbush}!)

vx is the Scrabble Queen!

1024 Gella  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:23:45am

re: #999 redstateredneck

The garden state.

ha ha ha ha no i see correlation, they want their gardens to be intact

1025 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:23:55am

re: #1003 Occasional Reader

No, my working theory is that it was a botched attempt at "The Electric Slide".

If you want to spin the picture, it looks more like he's getting ready to kiss the King's ring. Everyone else in the picture is looking down to see the lip plant.

1026 alegrias  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:23:59am

re: #998 avanti

March saw the largest monthly increase in 7 years, I expect some profit taking, it's moving up too fast. Of course, it could start a snow ball effect, consumer confidence is way up, if they start buying, then we're off to the races.

* * * *
Except for those of us who are unemployed! Last month, over 700,000 joined our ranks.

1027 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:24:42am

re: #1024 Gella

ha ha ha ha no i see correlation, they want their gardens to be intact

lush and full...
;-)

1028 VegasRick  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:24:48am

re: #1006 Kenneth

WTF? Is it illegal in New Jersey for a shop to give a Brazillian wax or is it illegal to have one? Is it legal to cross state lines with a shaved cooch?

"Shaving off her muff for you!"

1029 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:24:59am

re: #949 jaunte

From what I understand of the GM plan they are going to split it into 2 companies. The good assets go in one and the crappy stuff goes in the other. The unions are going with the crappy one so they're going to have to renegotiate their contracts. Obama has certainly been very friendly to the unions so there's always the possibily that he might tweak the rules in their favor but I think it's looking pretty good.

1030 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:25:22am

re: #1000 Cognito

Ah, no. The press pays for its seats.


The Air Mobility Command, part of the U.S. Transportation Command, was ordered to provide airlift for the president's entourage of nearly 500 people, including senior officials, staff, support personnel, news reporters and some 200 Secret Service agents for the European visit, which began Tuesday in London.

Right from the article.

1031 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:25:23am

re: #987 Occasional Reader

I'm also leery about drawing conclusions based on one still photo. Could well have been a stumble, or whatever.

Stumble, bumble, ...

1032 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:25:27am
1033 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:25:42am

re: #997 J.D.

Ooooo...I can't wait.
Maybe Ms. Sarkozy will frump it up a bit...as a friendly gesture.

No way will Carla Bruni do that!
She'll do 'demure' in such a way that the President and all his men will get weak-kneed, and Michelle won't be able to do a thing about it.

Madame Sarkozy knows precisely what is what in the feminine stakes, she didn't get where she is by being a wide-eyed innocent.

1034 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:25:42am

re: #1028 VegasRick

"Shaving off her muff for you!"

They check at the port of entry?

1035 Cognito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:25:52am

re: #1030 soxfan4life

The Air Mobility Command, part of the U.S. Transportation Command, was ordered to provide airlift for the president's entourage of nearly 500 people, including senior officials, staff, support personnel, news reporters and some 200 Secret Service agents for the European visit, which began Tuesday in London.

Right from the article.

Sorry, dude. The press pays for its seats.

1036 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:25:55am

re: #997 J.D.

Ooooo...I can't wait.
Maybe Ms. Sarkozy will frump it up a bit...as a friendly gesture.

I think Mme. Sarkozy is incapable of looking frumpy.

1037 DistantThunder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:25:57am

I typed into google: Obama bows to the Saudi king

And it asked me: Did you mean Obama blows to the Saudi King

1038 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:26:01am

re: #1012 buzzsawmonkey

The Talmud says that if you drop something in front of an idol, you should not bend down to pick it up lest someone see you picking up the item and wrongly draw the conclusion you were bowing to the idol.

Plus, it's bad for your back!

1039 DistantThunder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:26:27am

re: #1018 yma o hyd

Absolutely!
Scrabble is excellent!
Hope you win lots of times!
(Forgive me, {reine} and {vxbush}!)

Which website?

1040 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:26:36am

re: #1026 alegrias

* * * *
Except for those of us who are unemployed! Last month, over 700,000 joined our ranks.

Employment lags the market by about six months. It'll be a few more months before the increase drops off if the market continues to go nuts.

1041 wahabicorridor  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:26:50am

re: #1026 alegrias

Hola alegrias!

You lost your job? WTF? When?

1042 alegrias  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:27:03am

re: #1009 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Obama will probably give the Pope a "Footprints" poster or an Ipod loaded with Time-Life's "Monsters of Christian Rock" collection...

* * * *
Nahhh, the White House/State Department leftists will pack left over gift paks of Pink Condoms labeled "Protect Yourself from John McCain", which were handed out as favors at Planned Parenthood fundraisers for Obama.

1043 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:27:07am

re: #1004 Ward Cleaver

I'd rather see a smoking crater with a Pali flag in it.

And a smoking hole in the flag.
With a Pali holding up a white flag, saying "We'll all go back to Jordan and Egypt now. Please."

1044 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:27:30am

re: #1035 Cognito

Sorry, dude. The press pays for its seats.

It doesn't matter who pays, transport is still supplied that may be needed elsewhere.

1045 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:27:55am

re: #1039 DistantThunder

Which website?


The Pixie Pit. Just let reine know if you want to play the next time you see her on LGF and she'll hook you up for the next game. It's a lot of fun.

1046 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:27:57am

re: #812 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hey, has anyone heard from Afrocity? I don't recall her posting recently.

She was on for a short while last night. She's doing fine, as far as I know.

1047 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:28:15am

re: #1023 redstateredneck

vx is the Scrabble Queen!

Wow - hidden talents - Lizards keep surprising me every day with them!

1048 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:29:08am

The G 20 just announced they'll kick in a trillion in additional stimulus money, the market should like that.

1049 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:29:09am

re: #1023 redstateredneck

vx is the Scrabble Queen!

I can beat Charles Barkley at golf.

1050 axegrinder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:29:13am

You know what Lizards? I don't give a crap about presents/gifts, fashion or lack thereof or even diplomatic faux pas. The Prez. and 1st Lady are presentable enough for me. I just wish they'd stop insulting US and I wish he'd stop trying to turn us into France. Everything else is window dressing and I can stand diplomatic mistakes if he'd just take care of business at home and not let terrorists walk all over us. He can bow and scrape all day long if at the end of the day we show some backbone and don't take all the shit we've been taking from thugs like Iran. If we can get a base, fly over status and some more cheap oil for a double-cheek smooch I say smooch away. I mean face, not ass. Too bad I'm pretty sure O isn't after those things.

1051 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:29:31am

re: #1033 yma o hyd

No way will Carla Bruni do that!
She'll do 'demure' in such a way that the President and all his men will get weak-kneed, and Michelle won't be able to do a thing about it.

Madame Sarkozy knows precisely what is what in the feminine stakes, she didn't get where she is by being a wide-eyed innocent.

I can hardly wait!

1052 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:29:46am

re: #1035 Cognito

Sorry, dude. The press pays for its seats.

But the extra airlift use, even if reimbursed, could have strained our resources; we haven't been buying the airlift we need.

1053 nyc redneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:29:58am

o couldn't wait to meet the saudi king and bow to him.
i wonder if he gushed, "do you know my middle name is hussein?"

1054 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:30:11am

re: #1039 DistantThunder

Which website?

No idea - you've gotta ask one of > them!

1055 Macker  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:30:36am

re: #1049 SasquatchOnSteroids

I can beat Charles Barkley at golf.

Perhaps he's better at golf than Оба́ма is at bowling!

1056 Cognito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:30:41am

re: #1044 Nevergiveup

It doesn't matter who pays, transport is still supplied that may be needed elsewhere.

No it's not. The Air Force -- again, the largest in the world -- is plenty able to handle a Presidential outing.

It's incorrect -- and worse, lame -- to say otherwise.

1057 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:30:57am

And I see that FASB has approved a plan to ease the mark-to-market rules. Also a good thing. I wish they had listened to 3wood six months ago.

1058 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:31:03am

re: #982 Ward Cleaver

Quien es mas dowdy?

LOL. Mrs. Brown could use a pair of Spanx, that's for sure, but Michelle is just a train wreck. I don't get it. She's not pretty, but she's tall and fit. She should be able to wear clothes well if she chose the right styles. Sleek, simple, not a lot of fussy details. Separates (besides being wildly inappropriate for the occasion) cut her off at the middle. And she cannot match her colors.

1059 VegasRick  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:31:46am

.

1060 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:31:56am

re: #1034 redstateredneck

Famous misheard lyrics...

"Someone shaved my wife tonight..."
1061 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:32:07am
1062 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:32:10am

re: #1036 Occasional Reader

I think Mme. Sarkozy is incapable of looking frumpy.

So what do you think?
J. Crew, or not?
/

1063 axegrinder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:32:18am

re: #1009 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Obama will probably give the Pope a "Footprints" poster or an Ipod loaded with Time-Life's "Monsters of Christian Rock" collection...

Styx -Renegade

1064 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:32:20am

re: #1047 yma o hyd

Wow - hidden talents - Lizards keep surprising me every day with them!

Although I just checked the board and reine made a 99 on her last play.
That's a big one!

1065 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:32:24am

re: #1054 yma o hyd

Hi, yma! The dog is having her eye surgery next Wednesday.

1066 MikeAlv77  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:32:54am

re: #532 redstateredneck

On Fox & Friends the other morning they were talking about protocol with the Queen. You briefly touch her hand (if offered) do not grip it or shake it. When eating with the Queen, when she puts her fork down, you do not continue eating, etc.

As a head of state, to show respect, OK I would... but personally, she is a queen, but not my queen. I would keep eating. We fought a revolution to get rid of that crap!

1067 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:32:59am
1068 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:33:04am

re: #1037 DistantThunder

I typed into google: Obama bows to the Saudi king

And it asked me: Did you mean Obama blows to the Saudi King

No.

1069 alegrias  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:33:41am

re: #1012 buzzsawmonkey

* * * *
Buzzsaw,

Obama knows the media will protect him from himself.

Remember, photos of Obama stoned in college did not see the light of day.
Video of Obama partying with Rashid Khalidi and saying possibly nasty things about Israel, were withheld by the L.A. Times.

Obama's gaffes will be reported as endearing.

Is the fawning coverage over yet? I think not.

1070 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:34:05am

re: #1056 Cognito

No it's not. The Air Force -- again, the largest in the world -- is plenty able to handle a Presidential outing.

It's incorrect -- and worse, lame -- to say otherwise.

Look first you make the argument that the press pays it's own way and thus the space they take up doesn't count, then you change arguments and say the Air Force is big enough to do this anyway? Just make up your mind. And if you had bothered to read my comments along the way, maybe you wouldn't say stupid things to me.

1071 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:34:36am

re: #1052 Kosh's Shadow

But the extra airlift use, even if reimbursed, could have strained our resources; we haven't been buying the airlift we need.

I don't get the point, should the President not have attended ? The size of the airlift is pretty much as done in the past for a major week long conference. If the market even goes up a 100 points because of the G 20, that's billions of dollars, more then enough to pay back the tax payers in additional taxes .

1072 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:34:38am

re: #1061 buzzsawmonkey

It's my understanding that if the mark-to-market rules had been eased last summer, the entire subsequent meltdown--or most of it--would have been avoided.

I was always a little confused as to why Marky Mark is so important to the global financial system, but 3wood knows a lot more about this stuff than I do.

1073 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:34:40am

re: #1066 MikeAlv77

As a head of state, to show respect, OK I would... but personally, she is a queen, but not my queen. I would keep eating. We fought a revolution to get rid of that crap!

So you would be fine if a visiting head of state disrespected the US flag? The British Monarchy is a symbol, not a person.

1074 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:34:48am

re: #1065 doppelganglander

Hi, yma! The dog is having her eye surgery next Wednesday.

Right - what else did the vet say?
Did Nina get any medication to tie her over until then?

1075 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:34:49am

re: #1066 MikeAlv77

As a head of state, to show respect, OK I would... but personally, she is a queen, but not my queen. I would keep eating. We fought a revolution to get rid of that crap!

It's all about r-e-s-p-e-c-t.

1076 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:34:59am

re: #1049 SasquatchOnSteroids

I can beat Charles Barkley at golf.

Well whoopteedoo!
lol

1077 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:35:08am

re: #1038 Leonidas Hoplite

Ah, there you are!

From yesterday's anti-vax thread...
re: #334 Leonidas Hoplite

What's wrong with that?

/saith the Ranger fan who went to the game monday night...

Plenty! I am glad I chose to stayeth at home and exercise TV remote.

1078 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:35:11am
1079 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:35:48am

re: #1017 Occasional Reader

And then, the inflationary effect of all that money they've been printing in the basement kicks in.

Also, oil most likely skyrockets again, based in part on the Obama Adminstration's promise that we'll be sure not to look for new sources.

Ugh.

If oil skyrockets again, there goes any chance of recovery. It was the high oil prices that broke the back of what had going till this point.

1080 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:36:39am

re: #1075 redstateredneck

It's all about r-e-s-p-e-c-t.

Take out the PCP? (speaking of mis-heard lyrics)

1081 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:37:32am
Happiness is good health and a bad memory.
— Ingrid Bergman

IMHO, a bad memory is a good thing only after you've learned from what you ought to forget.

1082 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:37:40am

re: #1066 MikeAlv77

As a head of state, to show respect, OK I would... but personally, she is a queen, but not my queen. I would keep eating. We fought a revolution to get rid of that crap!

I heard a story about Princess Diana, had to be taught to eat at these state affairs. She would take a nibble and then put her fork down, and everybody had to stop eating even if they hadn't even been served yet. She had to be taught how to take a nibble and keep nibbling for hours on end, even if she didn't feel like eating or had an urge to rush to the loo to throw up that mouthful of lettuce.

1083 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:37:54am

re: #1072 Occasional Reader

I was always a little confused as to why Marky Mark is so important to the global financial system, but 3wood knows a lot more about this stuff than I do.

That's just funky, bunch of stuff you've got there.

1084 KenJen  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:37:56am

re: #1069 alegrias

* * * *
Buzzsaw,

Obama knows the media will protect him from himself.

Remember, photos of Obama stoned in college did not see the light of day.
Video of Obama partying with Rashid Khalidi and saying possibly nasty things about Israel, were withheld by the L.A. Times.

Obama's gaffes will be reported as endearing.

Is the fawning coverage over yet? I think not.

You should have heard Dianne Sawyer this morning. Whenever she talks about Obama you'd swear she was describing the cuteist puppy in the world.

1085 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:37:59am

re: #1079 Honorary Yooper

If oil skyrockets again, there goes any chance of recovery. It was the high oil prices that broke the back of what had going till this point.

That is exactly my worry; that energy prices will jump as soon as it looks like there's the possiblity of a sustained recovery... promptly throttling that recovery.

Plus, of course, all that "kicking in" of a trillion here, a trillion there... pretty soon you're talking real money, as the saying goes... real money with hot air to back it up.

1086 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:38:00am

re: #1069 alegrias

Is the fawning coverage over yet? I think not.

Right!
They're just getting warmed up.

1087 alegrias  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:38:22am

re: #1041 wahabicorridor

Hola alegrias!

You lost your job? WTF? When?

* * * *
Hola, Ms. Corridor~
Si, one week after Obama's inauguration--talk about rude consequences of elections!

How are you?

1088 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:38:25am

re: #1069 alegrias

The fawning will never stop in my opinion... They media want American Socialism... They think Europe is more refined than our 'Cowboys and Indians' way of Capitalism...

I think the breaking point is coming... I don't know how it will play out but the American people are only going to take so much more of this...

1089 doppelganglander  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:38:41am

re: #1074 yma o hyd

Right - what else did the vet say?
Did Nina get any medication to tie her over until then?

She says the surgery is quite routine. She'll go in early in the morning and come home in the late afternoon. She didn't give her any pre-surgery medication, although I think there will be some for afterwards. Of course she'll have that pathetic Elizabethan collar afterwards. They will biopsy the growth, and it could potentially be malignant, but there's no telling until the pathologist looks at it. For the time being, Nina is basically her usual self. She doesn't appear to be in pain, her appetite is good, and she is enjoying her tummy rubs as much as ever. Thanks so much for asking -- I will let you know how the surgery goes and what the vet says next week.

1090 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:38:44am

re: #1081 pre-Boomer Marine brat

IMHO, a bad memory is a good thing only after you've learned from what you ought to forget.

One advantage of getting older is that I can hind my own Easter eggs.

1091 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:39:49am
I can hind my own Easter eggs.

Rotating title?

1092 alegrias  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:39:58am

re: #1050 axegrinder

* * * *
Bravo, Axegrinder. First things first.

1093 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:40:35am

re: #1090 avanti

One advantage of getting older is that I can hind my own Easter eggs.

LOL!

I once spend several minutes trying to find my computer glasses in the apartment -- only realize that I was wearing them.

1094 VegasRick  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:40:36am

re: #1091 Sharmuta

Rotating title?

Insert as needed.

1095 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:40:47am

Here's another sickening report about the ROPMA, in that den of thieves, a.k.a Pakistan:
Video: radicals beat girl, 17, in Islamic stronghold of Swat, Pakistan
From that link:
'A local Taleban commander in the militant stronghold of Matta, 25 miles from the regional capital, Mingora, ordered the girl to be flogged a week ago after accusing her of adultery, according to local reporters.
But some residents of Matta have accused the commander of ordering the beating to get revenge after the girl refused to accept his proposal of marriage, the reporters told The Times. '

I didn't watch the video - reading this was quite sufficient.

1096 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:40:59am

re: #1086 J.D.

Right!
They're just getting warmed up.

You should read the European press on BHO's trip, they make our guys look critical of the POTUS.

1097 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:41:02am

re: #1078 Iron Fist

I can't imagine being Jewish and being for gun control.

"But if only the Nazis hadn't had guns, there would have been no Holocaust!"

Something like that.

1098 tfc3rid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:41:11am

The more I think about the way things are going, the American people want an alternative leader to come about to fight this spend like drunken sailors campaign... They are craving leadership...

Problem is, the vacuum in opposition leadership, coupled with the growing anger of the American people, could lead to the rise of a far right wing figure who could be very, very dangerous...

1099 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:41:15am

A Just War: George W. Bush Saved 600,000 Muslim Lives

An excellent look at the numbers.

1100 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:42:06am

re: #1090 avanti

One advantage of getting older is that I can hind my own Easter eggs.

Hide or find?

1101 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:42:08am

re: #1095 yma o hyd

Here's another sickening report about the ROPMA, in that den of thieves, a.k.a Pakistan:
Video: radicals beat girl, 17, in Islamic stronghold of Swat, Pakistan
From that link:
'A local Taleban commander in the militant stronghold of Matta, 25 miles from the regional capital, Mingora, ordered the girl to be flogged a week ago after accusing her of adultery, according to local reporters.
But some residents of Matta have accused the commander of ordering the beating to get revenge after the girl refused to accept his proposal of marriage, the reporters told The Times. '

I didn't watch the video - reading this was quite sufficient.


I wonder if these are some of the moderates we'll be planning to reach out to.

/spit

1102 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:42:33am

re: #1100 J.D.

Hide or find?

Both?

1103 Cognito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:42:58am

re: #1070 Nevergiveup

Look first you make the argument that the press pays it's own way and thus the space they take up doesn't count, then you change arguments and say the Air Force is big enough to do this anyway? Just make up your mind. And if you had bothered to read my comments along the way, maybe you wouldn't say stupid things to me.

Testy, testy.

I've not said anything stupid. There have been two nonsensical arguments presented so far:

1) The Air Force is "strained" by the President's visit to England. And,
2) It is -- magically -- the media's fault.

Both arguments are easily, thoroughly destroyed with the answers:

1) Ours is the largest air force not only in the world, but in the history of the world, and it's silly to even attempt such an argument. So says Navy Capt. Kevin Aandahl, spokesman for U.S. Transportation Command: "Contractual airlift [IL-76 and AN-124] used to support Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan is not in any way connected to presidential movement requirements," he said.

2) Blaming the press is equally silly, because not only do they not strain the government's resources, they pay a premium to ride along. It's no good to say the press "takes up space" because by paying a premium, they're fully funding that space.

So think twice before tossing around "stupid."

1104 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:42:59am

re: #1093 pre-Boomer Marine brat

LOL!

I once spend several minutes trying to find my computer glasses in the apartment -- only realize that I was wearing them.

I notice it when working on my cars. I end up in front of my tool box with no idea of what tool I had come to get.

1105 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:43:18am

re: #1071 avanti

I don't get the point, should the President not have attended ? The size of the airlift is pretty much as done in the past for a major week long conference. If the market even goes up a 100 points because of the G 20, that's billions of dollars, more then enough to pay back the tax payers in additional taxes .

No, I was responding to the person who was saying that it wasn't a problem because the press was paying.
I do think we need to keep the C-17 line open longer, though.

1106 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:43:26am

re: #1095 yma o hyd

Here's another sickening report about the ROPMA, in that den of thieves, a.k.a Pakistan:
Video: radicals beat girl, 17, in Islamic stronghold of Swat, Pakistan
From that link:
'A local Taleban commander in the militant stronghold of Matta, 25 miles from the regional capital, Mingora, ordered the girl to be flogged a week ago after accusing her of adultery, according to local reporters.
But some residents of Matta have accused the commander of ordering the beating to get revenge after the girl refused to accept his proposal of marriage, the reporters told The Times. '

I didn't watch the video - reading this was quite sufficient.

MFing misogynist garbage!

1107 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:43:46am

re: #1096 avanti

You should read the European press on BHO's trip, they make our guys look critical of the POTUS.

I've been reading links as they've been posted.
Some of them have been pretty darned funny...

1108 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:43:52am

Scholar: Europe’s Right is embracing its Jews

Bunzl cited numerous instances of this newfound fondness for Jews. Austria’s Freedom Party, founded by former Nazis after the war, has run Jewish candidates, and its website “celebrates Jewish contributions to civilization.”

Filip DeWinter, a Flemish nationalist in Belgium, whose party grew out of Flemish Nazism, has praised Jews as law-abiding citizens.

“Why would a Flemish nationalist need to say nice things about the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community in Antwerp?” asked Bunzl. “Is it a Belgian fluke? Too much chocolate perhaps?”

One explanation he offers is Islamophobia — antagonism toward Muslim immigrants or Muslims whose families have migrated to European countries in recent generations.

“Even strong support of Israel among the Right is driven by Islamophobia and perception of Israel as a bastion of European civilization,” said Bunzl, author of Anti-Semitism and Islamophobia: Hatreds Old and New in Europe. For European nationalists, “the Jewish state is trying to preserve its European values against the onslaught of Muslims. It is a European state trying to defend itself and its Western culture and democracy.”

Bunzl finds little solace in this perception.
....
“But this is no cause for celebration,” he cautioned.

Bunzl is a self-described rarity, having been born in 1971 into a Jewish family in Vienna. After growing up in the 1980s and hearing anti-Semitic rhetoric from the far Right, he said, makes the recent phenomena particularly fascinating to him.

“In the 1980s I was scared of the far Right,” said Bunzl. “Austria was a scary place.”

Now Jews in Europe have “become infatuated with the far Right” and the number casting votes for them is “growing fast,” although Bunzl acknowledged that most Jews still vote for centrist or left-center candidates.

Still, he wondered, “how high a cost” will Jews pay for supporting nationalist candidates?

“We have to be careful who our friends are,” he said.

1109 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:44:10am
1110 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:44:25am

re: #1089 doppelganglander

She says the surgery is quite routine. She'll go in early in the morning and come home in the late afternoon. She didn't give her any pre-surgery medication, although I think there will be some for afterwards. Of course she'll have that pathetic Elizabethan collar afterwards. They will biopsy the growth, and it could potentially be malignant, but there's no telling until the pathologist looks at it. For the time being, Nina is basically her usual self. She doesn't appear to be in pain, her appetite is good, and she is enjoying her tummy rubs as much as ever. Thanks so much for asking -- I will let you know how the surgery goes and what the vet says next week.

Please do - its always a worrying time, ahving one's pet at the vets!
At least, if Nina is her usual self, likes her food, her tummy tickles and all that, then that is good news indeed!
Those lampshades round the neck are a nuisance, but better that than ner scratching the wound.
Big Dog had to wear one after his cataract oepration - he hated it! And we were soo after him not to shake his head ... gawd, that were a few anxious weeks!

1111 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:44:33am

re: #1101 Occasional Reader

I wonder if these are some of the moderates we'll be planning to reach out to.

/spit

Of course they're moderates! Non-moderates would have killed the girl.
/extra spitting.

1112 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:44:41am

re: #1100 J.D.

Damn, screwed up a perfectly good line. "Hide"

1113 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:44:41am

re: #1102 Sharmuta

Both?

My guess is yes.
And you?

1114 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:44:41am

re: #1096 avanti

You should read the European press on BHO's trip, they make our guys look critical of the POTUS.

Why wouldn't they, they propped himm up to lead to our demise. Despite our countries continued efforts to save their sorry asses Europe despises us. If I were truly interested in America's downfall I'd support 0bama as he stands for everything America is not.

1115 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:45:39am

re: #1090 avanti

One advantage of getting older is that I can hind my own Easter eggs.

You put them where? ? ?

1116 yma o hyd  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:46:41am

re: #1101 Occasional Reader

I wonder if these are some of the moderates we'll be planning to reach out to.

/spit

I hope some drones will find those evil men.
The Swat valley is said to have been most beautiful, a place where people went for their summer holidays ...

1117 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:46:47am

BNP to launch advertising campaign featuring Jesus Christ

The advert features a picture of Jesus Christ on the cross and quotes a part of a verse from John's Gospel (John 15:20) in which Jesus says: "If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you". The verse comes in the context of Jesus' teaching about love.

The advert then asks: "What would Jesus do?".

The thinktank Ekklesia has monitored attempts by the BNP since 2003 to present itself as a ‘Christian Party’. It has also warned that misleading stories about ‘Christian persecution’ in the UK, as well as appeals by church leaders to recover the idea of 'Christian Britain', have played into the hands of the far-Right

In recent years the BNP has used religious rhetoric with increasing frequency. In recent local elections, the party's literature included copies of the controversial Mohammed cartoons. It also helped establish a 'Christian Council of Britain'.

The goal is to appeal to those in the population who identify with Christianity, but feel panicked both by 'liberal secularism' and the growth of Islam.

1118 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:46:57am

re: #1097 Occasional Reader

There's an interesting look at the demographics of the Nazi movement in Nial Ferguson's book, The War of the World.

Catholics were far less likely to join, as were practicing Protestant Christians. Farmers & factory workers were not interested in joining the party either. The largest demographic of people drawn to join the Nazi party were lapsed Protestant university students and graduates. Doctors, lawyers, engineers, journalists, accountants, writers & artists signed up by the thousands. Think about it.

1119 avanti  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:47:09am

Later guys and gals, need a lunch break.

1120 Attaboid  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:47:24am

re: #1103 Cognito

"Contractual airlift [IL-76 and AN-124] "
Why are Russian built planes needed?

1121 newmelleman  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:47:25am

re: #1115 redstateredneck

You put them where? ? ?

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

/

:)

1122 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:47:26am

I'm off to make a Wally World run.
BBL

1123 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:47:29am

re: #1108 Killgore Trout

Hmmm....too long of a quote.
/Oh, well.

1124 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:47:47am

re: #1103 Cognito

Ours is the largest air force not only in the world, but in the history of the world,

Um... I think you're overstating your case a bit.

(The US Army Air Corps at the end of WWII had more than two million men and 80,000 planes.)

1125 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:48:13am

re: #1112 avanti

Damn, screwed up a perfectly good line. "Hide"

I kind of liked the original.
:-)

1126 Cognito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:48:34am

re: #1124 Occasional Reader

Um... I think you're overstating your case a bit.

(The US Army Air Corps at the end of WWII had more than two million men and 80,000 planes.)

"Our."

1127 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:48:38am

re: #1117 Killgore Trout

Fascists for Jesus!

1128 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:49:17am
1129 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:49:44am

Maybe someone needs to peek in on Charles and make sure he's OK.

1130 Teacake!  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:50:20am

Hey there, anyone here live in Sacramento (mid town area)? I want to get far away from New Orleans! Need some apartment leads.

1131 KenJen  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:50:26am

re: #1117 Killgore Trout

BNP to launch advertising campaign featuring Jesus Christ

WWJD? I have a feeling he wouldn't be on billboards terrifying people.

1132 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:50:27am

re: #1129 J.D.

Maybe someone needs to peek in on Charles and make sure he's OK.

Hey, it's not even 9:00.

1133 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:50:31am

re: #1127 Sharmuta

The BNP are not Christians. They are exploiting this issue to build up membership. Their whole ideology is about hatred & vengeance, not love & forgiveness.

1134 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:50:42am

re: #1117 Killgore Trout

BNP to launch advertising campaign featuring Jesus Christ

Well, that will work well for attracting Jews.
not.

1135 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:50:47am

re: #1103 Cognito

1)I never said the press was at fault. But I never made the asinine argument that just because they pay for their seat, that matters.
2) I am the one that posted the original article on this and I said that it seems someone doesn't like Obama, and then in the next post said that I don't think Obama's trip is any different than past President's trips no matter how many lackeys he took.

But your argument that our Air Force can't be strained is wrong. The very area we are short in is Heavy Lift capability. But my basic point that I Started was that someone was out to get Obama. So read who posted what first then respond. Normally I don't take offense to your pandering, but check your facts first.

1136 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:50:55am
1137 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:51:03am

re: #1124 Occasional Reader

Um... I think you're overstating your case a bit.

(The US Army Air Corps at the end of WWII had more than two million men and 80,000 planes.)

Well, technically, that wasn't the Air Force, but a department of The Army at the time. And to be even more nitpicking, it was the U.S. Army Air Force, not Air Corps.

1138 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:51:05am

re: #1126 Cognito

"Our."

Um... your point being?

1139 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:51:54am
1140 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:52:28am

re: #1128 Ward Cleaver

G20 leaders to Obama: We're not buying your bullshit.

I don't believe he's wowing them any more.

1141 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:52:46am
1142 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:53:02am

re: #1134 Kosh's Shadow

I recall Swedish fascists were marching along side Islamo-fascists in Malmo protesting against the Israeli tennis team at that recent match.

Fascists are not reliable allies. (eg: Operation Barbarossa)

1143 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:53:07am

re: #1137 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Well, technically, that wasn't the Air Force, but a department of The Army at the time. And to be even more nitpicking, it was the U.S. Army Air Force, not Air Corps.

It's too bad that so many were scrapped. :-(

1144 Cognito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:53:12am

re: #1135 Nevergiveup

I responded to each of your points in turn. You added to the argument, not me, when you said, following a discussion of press seats on Air Force One: "It doesn't matter who pays, transport is still supplied that may be needed elsewhere."

I've read your comments. I'm quite clear who said what.

1145 BignJames  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:53:12am

re: #1070 Nevergiveup

Look first you make the argument that the press pays it's own way and thus the space they take up doesn't count, then you change arguments and say the Air Force is big enough to do this anyway? Just make up your mind. And if you had bothered to read my comments along the way, maybe you wouldn't say stupid things to me.


Are you high?

1146 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:53:22am

re: #1137 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Well, technically, that wasn't the Air Force,

Cognito used the lower case "air force", which is a generic term.

1147 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:53:37am

re: #1140 J.D.

I don't believe he's wowing them any more.

"Socialism? Been there, done that."

1148 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:53:59am

re: #1145 BignJames

Are you high?

What do you mean?

1149 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:54:03am

re: #1132 Ward Cleaver

Hey, it's not even 9:00.

Who our age can sleep so late?
/

1150 newmelleman  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:54:23am

re: #1141 buzzsawmonkey

It's a sham "wow."

...but wait, there's more!

1151 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:54:24am

re: #1144 Cognito

I responded to each of your points in turn. You added to the argument, not me, when you said, following a discussion of press seats on Air Force One: "It doesn't matter who pays, transport is still supplied that may be needed elsewhere."

I've read your comments. I'm quite clear who said what.

So if someone pays for a seat they don't take up space?

1152 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:54:26am
1153 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:54:52am

re: #1133 Kenneth

The BNP are not Christians. They are exploiting this issue to build up membership. Their whole ideology is about hatred & vengeance, not love & forgiveness.

I don't believe them to be good Christians, but this doesn't surprise me:

British Fascists and 'Christian' Racism

1154 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:55:12am

re: #1012 buzzsawmonkey

The Talmud says that if you drop something in front of an idol, you should not bend down to pick it up lest someone see you picking up the item and wrongly draw the conclusion you were bowing to the idol.

Obama is at an event where the eyes of the world are on him. That means he should be even more sensitive than usual to appearances--such as the appearance that the elected leader of the world's sole superpower is bowing to the "royal" brigand chief of an oil-soaked hellhole.

A Mordechai he's not.

1155 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:55:44am

re: #1150 newmelleman

...but wait, there's more!

Can't wait till Putin tells 0bama to slap chop his nuts.

1156 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:56:32am

re: #1141 buzzsawmonkey

It's a sham "wow."

Clearly, I had to upding that one.
LOL!

1157 jorline  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:56:58am

re: #1128 Ward Cleaver

G20 leaders to Obama: We're not buying your bullshit.

Instead, old European powers are now making demands of the U.S., with French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel uniting to push Obama on international financial regulations. They suggested Obama's substance could end up playing second fiddle to his style by the time the meeting's over.

They're telling Obama to climb into the back seat and get in his car seat.

1158 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:56:59am

re: #1147 Ward Cleaver

"Socialism? Been there, done that."

Got the decrepit Health Care System to show for it.

1159 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:57:20am

re: #1143 Ward Cleaver

It's too bad that so many were scrapped. :-(

I would have taken a few Mustangs & B-17s off of their hands for them.

1160 BignJames  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:57:31am

re: #1148 Nevergiveup

What do you mean?


Re; your comment to Cog in your 1070

1161 ladycatnip  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:57:36am

Here's the American Thinker's take on Obama's obsequious bow to the Saudi king.

Doesn't anyone school the prez in protocol? The POTUS NEVER bows to foreign monarchs - ever!

1162 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:57:48am

re: #1147 Ward Cleaver

"Socialism? Been there, done that."

Really.

1163 Cognito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:57:51am

re: #1138 Occasional Reader

Um... your point being?

Maybe this is a fault in my own thinking, but I tend to think of the American Air Force as a whole, then and now.

But I think the point is moot anyway: Can anyone truly compare the size and strength of the World War-era air force to today's Air Force? (By the same logic, ten guys carried around Cleopatra on their shoulders, while just two guys can fly a modern airliner from coast to coast. So Cleopatra wins.)

1164 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:57:53am

re: #1141 buzzsawmonkey

It's a sham "wow."

But do they love his nuts?

1165 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:58:37am

re: #1141 buzzsawmonkey

It's a sham "wow."

That there is funny!

1166 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:58:49am
1167 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:58:57am

re: #1153 Sharmuta

It's important to keep a close eye on these groups. The white supremacist group "Christian Identity" has very little real Christian content in their ideology. It's all about race, race, race & hate, hate, hate. If they pretend to like Jews & Israel today, it is just a tactic. They will turn on them again. Mark my words.

1168 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:59:39am

re: #1153 Sharmuta

I don't believe them to be good Christians, but this doesn't surprise me:

British Fascists and 'Christian' Racism

According to the theory of British Israelism, the British, and other European peoples, are in reality the so-called ‘lost tribes’ of Israel, the Northern Kingdom of Israel, who were expelled during the Assyrian Captivity. It is claimed, meanwhile, that the Kingdom of Judah went on to make up modern day Jewry, although Jews are deemed by many to be ‘ethnically mixed’ and consequently no longer ‘pure’ Israelites.

This pseudo-historical belief system allows white nationalists to claim that the Bible is a book written by Europeans, about Europeans, and for Europeans, for according to this theory, Europeans are the Biblical Israelites. British Israelism, then, is a ‘Christian’ religion that promotes Eurocentricism and opposes ‘race mixing’ as an affront to ‘God’s plan’.

BUT- they think they are good Christians..........

Sick, twisted shit.

1169 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:59:40am

re: #1155 soxfan4life
How long has it been since the U.S. has had a POTUS that was this far out of his element!
Not just out of his league!
Not even the same game!
The world is getting a huge laugh...... AT OUR EXPENCE!
[deleted]

1170 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 8:59:57am
1171 Texas Heathen  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:00:06am

Hey all!
Went and saw Race to Witch Mountain this past weekend and got a little kick out of one scene that showed a slide of Globular Clusters. heh heh
The movie was pretty good. A nice family movie. Neither my kids nor my wife remember the original Witch Mountain movies. I guess I'm too old.

1172 Russkilitlover  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:00:11am

re: #1114 soxfan4life

Why wouldn't they, they propped himm up to lead to our demise. Despite our countries continued efforts to save their sorry asses Europe despises us. If I were truly interested in America's downfall I'd support 0bama as he stands for everything America is not.

I heard a woman speak on a radio program on my home last night. Can't remember her name - and I THINK the program was Michael Savage, not sure, though.

Anyway she was saying that Obama, although feted and adored on his European Vacation, will likely come home empty handed. Our bank bailouts have already been an enormous help to European banks and have bailed them out of many of their bad investments. So there is no incentive for them to do any more "stimulus." They can just sit back and reap the benefits of our ginormous spending.

Regarding Afghanistan/Pakistan, it is more likely that Germany and France will be pulling troops, not adding troops. So, no go there, either.

She ended by saying that Obama is very good for Europe but she doesn't think he is very good for America.

1173 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:00:15am

re: #1167 Kenneth

It's important to keep a close eye on these groups. The white supremacist group "Christian Identity" has very little real Christian content in their ideology. It's all about race, race, race & hate, hate, hate. If they pretend to like Jews & Israel today, it is just a tactic. They will turn on them again. Mark my words.

You're preaching to the choir, Hon.

1174 rawmuse  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:00:45am

re: #1161 ladycatnip

Here's the American Thinker's take on Obama's obsequious bow to the Saudi king.

Doesn't anyone school the prez in protocol? The POTUS NEVER bows to foreign monarchs - ever!

Did he do the sword dance, too?

1175 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:00:49am

re: #1166 buzzsawmonkey

If we're looking for Purim parallels, he's a good candidate for Ahasuerus; he's got his own Vashti, a government full of Hamans, and he's decreed a lengthy whine feast.

You mean Ahamaninejad

1176 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:01:00am

re: #1167 Kenneth

It's important to keep a close eye on these groups. The white supremacist group "Christian Identity" has very little real Christian content in their ideology. It's all about race, race, race & hate, hate, hate. If they pretend to like Jews & Israel today, it is just a tactic. They will turn on them again. Mark my words.

They are racial supremacists hiding behind religion, as the islamists are religious supremacists hiding behind race.

1177 soxfan4life  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:01:00am

re: #1120 Attaboid

"Contractual airlift [IL-76 and AN-124] "
Why are Russian built planes needed?

My guess with this President is because there are no Iranian or Syrian planes available.

1178 wahabicorridor  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:01:16am

re: #1087 alegrias

It's been touch and go here (health stuff) - the last email I had for you was at a job location. shoot me an email.

I will say this. My husband the lobbyist no longer calls me his adorable right wing nut. He's looking to buy ammo in bulk. No joke.

My eyesight is severely impaired and I can't stay on any longer. I'll look for your email in a few hours. I'm so sorry alegrias. But - given what I think I know about your job skills - we may be able to shop a resume for you.

gotta go - love you sweetie.

1179 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:02:02am

re: #1173 Sharmuta

I know. I was preaching over your head to Pam et al. One day she will wake up with a dreadful hangover.

1180 gymmom  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:02:03am

re: #1161 ladycatnip

Here's the American Thinker's take on Obama's obsequious bow to the Saudi king.

Doesn't anyone school the prez in protocol? The POTUS NEVER bows to foreign monarchs - ever!

Watching President Obama has started reminding me of watching Seinfeld. There were some episodes I couldn't watch because George's behavior was so embarrassing. Please someone tell me we can get the negative to that picture and burn it before the whole muslim world sees it.

1181 Cognito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:02:19am

re: #1151 Nevergiveup

So if someone pays for a seat they don't take up space?

Exactly. Might be worth reading up a bit on how the press travel with the President.

Let's say you've got three cars in your driveway. Since you're an important public figure, I show up to cover your day's events. I bring my own car, which I fully fund, and I pay you five grand for a seat in one of your cars, which you'll be using regardless of whether I'm there or not.

Unless you're arguing the world is running out of cars, the case is closed.

1182 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:02:21am
1183 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:03:09am

re: #1170 Iron Fist

The ones that hurt most are the F-14s. Most of them were destroyed to keep their parts from being sold to Iran. I hope they at least have one in the Smithsonian.

There's one on the U.S.S. Intrepid Museum. Here's a list of other displayed F-14s.

1184 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:03:14am

re: #1180 gymmom

Watching President Obama has started reminding me o[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...] watching Seinfeld. There were some episodes I couldn't watch because George's behavior was so embarrassing. Please someone tell me we can get the negative to that picture and burn it before the whole muslim world sees it.

Way too late.
Those photos are priceless for them at home.

1185 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:03:28am

re: #1179 Kenneth

I know. I was preaching over your head to Pam et al. One day she will wake up with a dreadful hangover.

I'd like to agree with you on that point, but I think she's too far gone. She's a raving nut case who has lost all touch with any sense of rationality.

1186 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:04:12am

re: #1181 Cognito

Exactly. Might be worth reading up a bit on how the press travel with the President.

Let's say you've got three cars in your driveway. Since you're an important public figure, I show up to cover your day's events. I bring my own car, which I fully fund, and I pay you five grand for a seat in one of your cars, which you'll be using regardless of whether I'm there or not.

Unless you're arguing the world is running out of cars, the case is closed.

So the planes the US sends with the President normally have room for 500 press people and their equipment?

1187 albusteve  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:04:31am

re: #1132 Ward Cleaver

Hey, it's not even 9:00.

he's out for a breakfast burrito

1188 axegrinder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:04:31am

re: #1180 gymmom

Watching President Obama has started reminding me of watching Seinfeld. There were some episodes I couldn't watch because George's behavior was so embarrassing. Please someone tell me we can get the negative to that picture and burn it before the whole muslim world sees it.

The genie is out of the bottle. It's on the internet. Best we can do is spin it. I say he's picking up a pack of cigarettes he dropped. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

1189 Nevergiveup  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:04:51am

re: #1181 Cognito

Exactly. Might be worth reading up a bit on how the press travel with the President.

Let's say you've got three cars in your driveway. Since you're an important public figure, I show up to cover your day's events. I bring my own car, which I fully fund, and I pay you five grand for a seat in one of your cars, which you'll be using regardless of whether I'm there or not.

Unless you're arguing the world is running out of cars, the case is closed.

The argument was about space on US Air Force Planes--not the total space on all planes including civilian carriers--keep your arguments straight.

1190 ladycatnip  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:05:34am

#1174 rawmuse

Did he do the sword dance, too?

Nope. His handlers are afraid he'll fall on it.

1191 Lincolntf  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:05:42am

re: #1188 axegrinder

I think he was just rolling out his prayer rug. No biggie.

1192 Cognito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:06:25am

re: #1189 Nevergiveup

The argument was about space on US Air Force Planes--not the total space on all planes including civilian carriers--keep your arguments straight.

My argument is quite clear. Again, it might be helpful to read up a bit on how, exactly, the press travels alongside the President.

1193 albusteve  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:06:54am

re: #1170 Iron Fist

The ones that hurt most are the F-14s. Most of them were destroyed to keep their parts from being sold to Iran. I hope they at least have one in the Smithsonian.

Kalamazoo Air Zoo has one and they fly it regularly....

1194 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:07:34am

re: #1192 Cognito
In his pocket....right?

1195 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:07:41am
1196 badger1970  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:07:42am

re: #1191 Lincolntf

He looks like he dropped a contact but why is his butt shiny?

1197 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:07:56am

re: #1185 Sharmuta

Hard to argue with that assessment. Sad.

1198 Lincolntf  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:08:19am

re: #1196 badger1970

All the kisses from his press contingent?

1199 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:09:05am

re: #1163 Cognito

Maybe this is a fault in my own thinking, but I tend to think of the American Air Force as a whole, then and now.

But I think the point is moot anyway: Can anyone truly compare the size and strength of the World War-era air force to today's Air Force? (By the same logic, ten guys carried around Cleopatra on their shoulders, while just two guys can fly a modern airliner from coast to coast. So Cleopatra wins.)

You're babbling.

You were talking about the lift capacity of our current air force, claiming that it's the "largest in history".

On that point, you were wrong. Wildly so.

End of story.

1200 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:09:14am
1201 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:09:17am

re: #926 Nevergiveup

Not sure about that--it may be, since they are a bunch of kooks and do advocate senseless violence. But also, they are a tiny and mostly irrelevant bunch of has beens and never was.

I know nothing of their current history. The reason I brought it up was that I saw the head of the Canadian division/chapter of the JDF being liberally quoted in the Canadian press in the last day or two concerning the Galloway story.
It got me thinking that with the increased anti-Semitic incidents lately, the JDF and/or other Jewish organizations could be enjoying a surge in popularity.

1202 Kragar  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:09:47am

re: #1174 rawmuse

Did he do the sword dance, too?

Standing order is to keep Barry away from sharp or pointy objects.

Hell, they even cork his fork.

1203 Cognito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:09:56am

re: #1199 Occasional Reader

I disagree. Cf that gorgeous dame, Cleopatra.

1204 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:10:32am
1205 Cognito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:10:32am

re: #1194 reloadingisnotahobby

In his pocket....right?

Ha, yes, figuratively so, sadly.

1206 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:11:07am
1207 rawmuse  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:12:12am

For you iPhone fans, there is a game call "Land Sully's Plane"
I did it, 3 times so far. Woot!

1208 Cognito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:12:56am

DOW is north of 8K. Sweet.

1209 axegrinder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:13:02am

re: #1202 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Standing order is to keep Barry away from sharp or pointy objects.

Hell, they even cork his fork.

Reminds me of some comedian with an eyepatch stabbing himself on the eye patch with a corked fork. It may have been Benny Hill but I'm not sure. Anybody remember this skit?

1210 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:13:07am

+ 267.14
Nice.

1211 Kragar  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:13:45am

re: #1209 axegrinder

Reminds me of some comedian with an eyepatch stabbing himself on the eye patch with a corked fork. It may have been Benny Hill but I'm not sure. Anybody remember this skit?

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
Steve Martin and Michael Caine

1212 ConservatismNow!  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:13:54am

re: #1209 axegrinder

Reminds me of some comedian with an eyepatch stabbing himself on the eye patch with a corked fork. It may have been Benny Hill but I'm not sure. Anybody remember this skit?

Steve Martin in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

1213 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:13:55am

re: #1197 Kenneth

Hard to argue with that assessment. Sad.

I agree- very sad.

1214 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:14:24am
BARACK OBAMA had difficulty pronouncing the name of his Russian counterpart, Dmitry Medvedev, but people forgave him. In fact, they forgave him for almost everything: his aura seemed to glow ever brighter as he made his first foray into global, crisis-busting diplomacy.

A general willingness to give Mr Obama the benefit of the doubt was palpable even among the exuberant anti-capitalist demonstrators jamming the streets of London’s financial district—a minority of whom turned violent and clashed with police as they attacked a branch of the Royal Bank of Scotland. “He’s got good morals,” conceded a graffiti artist called Monkey, while helping his friend scale a traffic light and drape a banner: it depicted a grim reaper clutching fistfuls of banknotes.

Nico, a French resident of London who sported a cardboard box over his head (to denounce climate-change denial), said in muffled tones that he was “not sure about Obama—but he can’t be worse than George Bush.” Anyway, he opined, “the problem is the madness of the economic system—growth wrecks the environment.”...


The G20 summit
The Obama effect

Apr 2nd 2009
From The Economist print edition
The disarming charm of Barack Obama at the G20 in London

1215 Digital Display  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:14:26am

re: #1210 Killgore Trout

+ 267.14
Nice.


Maybe we could get Obama to do a world tour for the next year...

1216 albusteve  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:15:05am

re: #1204 Iron Fist

Thanks. The F-14 is such an awesome weapon. I'm not much of a plane guy (I just don't have what it takes to be a transport pilot, let alone a fighter jock, and I tend to like things that it would be possible, in theory at least, make use of), but I love the F-14. What's not to love?

at the Kalamazoo air show they would bring out their Tomcat and the announcer would yell "do you feel the NEED FOR SPEED?" an the plane would drop down and scream by at 600knots right over the tarmac...people went nuts

1217 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:15:15am
1218 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:15:37am
1219 J.D.  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:16:33am

re: #1215 HoosierHoops

Maybe we could get Obama to do a world tour for the next year...

FASB Eases Fair-Value Accounting Rules Amid Lawmaker Pressure
3-wood dropped by earlier, posted this, said to expect this, and left.

He's good!

1220 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:16:36am
1221 Russkilitlover  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:16:48am

re: #1210 Killgore Trout

+ 267.14
Nice.

Dow is taking stock of all the spending and bailouts and has realized that the companies themselves will not be suffering because the taxpayers are on the hook for all of it.

Dow also likes bad employment data because it shows companies are getting leaner by shedding staff.

On always has to remember that a rising Dow is not necessarily indicative of the health of the economy.

1222 Kragar  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:16:57am

re: #1212 ConservatismNow!

Steve Martin in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

"OKLAHOMA! OKLAHOMA! OKLAHOMA!"

1223 alegrias  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:17:07am

GOP is trying to get your attention with their alternative small is beautiful budget--anything to put breaks on the runaway horses of the Spendalypse. Let's not abandon them while they're outnumbered, outranked, outspent, outsmarted by the Dems.

1224 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:17:10am

re: #1174 rawmuse

Did he do the sword dance, too?

A dhimmi like 0bama is not allowed to do the royal sword dance, unless it's to present his neck for decapitation.

1225 axegrinder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:17:12am

re: #1171 Texas Heathen

Hey all!
Went and saw Race to Witch Mountain this past weekend and got a little kick out of one scene that showed a slide of Globular Clusters. heh heh
The movie was pretty good. A nice family movie. Neither my kids nor my wife remember the original Witch Mountain movies. I guess I'm too old.

I remember them. Bedknobs and Broomsticks and all.

1226 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:17:38am

re: #1210 Killgore Trout

+ 267.14
Nice.

Dammit

1227 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:18:08am

#1
Obama feels he has a very strong mandate
to put forth his agenda...I think this is a fact.
#2 to do this he has to "show his hand"this too is a fact!
#3 The world is finding out he's a F*&^&* Socialist.
Sadly..this is also a fact!
#4 could it be that the world is thinking hmmm...This guy might not last his four years,meaning get thrown out of office?
I can dream eh!

1228 Buck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:19:25am

re: #1161 ladycatnip

Here's the American Thinker's take on Obama's obsequious bow to the Saudi king.

Doesn't anyone school the prez in protocol? The POTUS NEVER bows to foreign monarchs - ever!

In a word.... CHANGE!

1229 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:20:06am

re: #1226 Walter L. Newton

Dammit

In my exuberance I forgot that conservatives are hoping for failure. I offer condolences to my conservative friends for a good day on the market.
/

1230 alegrias  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:20:07am

re: #1227 reloadingisnotahobby

#1
Obama feels he has a very strong mandate
to put forth his agenda...I think this is a fact.
#2 to do this he has to "show his hand"this too is a fact!
#3 The world is finding out he's a F*&^&* Socialist.
Sadly..this is also a fact!
#4 could it be that the world is thinking hmmm...This guy might not last his four years,meaning get thrown out of office?
I can dream eh!

* * * *
New Yorkers had a wonderful early chance Tuesday to let Obama know his mandate is shrinking!

1231 aggieann  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:20:07am

re: #1141 buzzsawmonkey

It's a sham "wow."

How did you ginsu clever?

1232 rawmuse  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:20:11am

How come no one is talking about how Eric Holder dismissed all charges against Ted Stevens yesterday?

1233 Cognito  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:20:20am

re: #1203 Cognito

I disagree. Cf that gorgeous dame, Cleopatra.

But yeah, OR, I misstated the size, historically...

1234 axegrinder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:20:31am

re: #1221 Russkilitlover

Dow is taking stock of all the spending and bailouts and has realized that the companies themselves will not be suffering because the taxpayers are on the hook for all of it.

Dow also likes bad employment data because it shows companies are getting leaner by shedding staff.

On always has to remember that a rising Dow is not necessarily indicative of the health of the economy.

Very true. If it goes much higher it might be a good opportunity to sell. I fear the next 5 or 6 years will be mostly trading sideways with wild swings occasionally. Too much uncertainty for sustained growth at the moment

1235 ConservatismNow!  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:20:47am

re: #1232 rawmuse

How come no one is talking about how Eric Holder dismissed all charges against Ted Stevens yesterday?

Because we talked about it yesterday after it happened

1236 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:20:57am
1237 rawmuse  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:21:05am

I for one am not hoping for market failure. I am too close to retirement age for that.

1238 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:21:09am

re: #1203 Cognito

I disagree. Cf that gorgeous dame, Cleopatra.

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts."

-Daniel Patrick Moynihan

You're just being obtuse.

1239 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:21:33am

re: #1216 albusteve

Spent a lot of time on Lake Havasu in the 60's and 70's....
The pilots loved to do low passes under the 200 ft high
power lines down near the dam....them max performance
climbs and break the sound barrier............
The coolest thing for a 12 yearold!

1240 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:21:41am

re: #1195 buzzsawmonkey

Good one--but I meant what I said. Ahasuerus was basically a fool who placed his trust in his malevolent vizier Haman--and when Haman said, "Let me get rid of the Jews, I'll pay for the privilege so it will benefit you," Ahasuerus was only too happy to assent to Haman's scheme, without bothering to check further into what was being proposed.

Obama has plenty of people in his government who are hostile to Israel at a minimum--in the context of thinking that we'd do better to dump Israel and cozy up to the Muslim world--and in some cases out and out antisemites. He's only too happy to rely on their counsel, just as Ahasuerus was only too happy to rely on Haman, if it would save the trouble of thinking something through--and, just like Ahasuerus, he is willing to make decrees that benefit his flattering courtiers, regardless of how destructive such decrees are.

Good points. I think 0bama also does have some dislike for Jews, or he couldn't have sat in the pews at Wright's church for 20 years.
I had been writing Ahaminejad over Purim, but never used the emphasis and I don't think anyone noticed.

1241 Buck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:21:47am

re: #1221 Russkilitlover

.......
Dow also likes bad employment data because it shows companies are getting leaner by shedding staff. .......

I know the theory, but who is going to be able to buy the stuff the leaner companies are producing? Not the unemployed.

1242 rawmuse  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:21:51am

re: #1235 ConservatismNow!

Oh, busy working for Da Man. I missed it.

1243 alegrias  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:21:58am

re: #1229 Killgore Trout

In my exuberance I forgot that conservatives are hoping for failure. I offer condolences to my conservative friends for a good day on the market.
/

* * * *
Don't be an idiot. Irrational exuberance is not necessarily a good thing as former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan advised when the tech bubble was growing wildly.

Not all growth is healthy growth. Sometimes it's a tumour.

1244 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:22:35am
1245 Kragar  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:22:54am

re: #1243 alegrias

* * * *
Don't be an idiot. Irrational exuberance is not necessarily a good thing as former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan advised when the tech bubble was growing wildly.

Not all growth is healthy growth. Sometimes it's a tumour.

ITS NOT A TUMAH!

/sorry, reflex action

1246 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:23:06am

re: #1234 axegrinder

I think we're going to see a lot of volatility. They're going to finish stress testing the banks here soon. We'll see what happens with that before we can tell which way things are going to go. I'm hoping we stabilize.

1247 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:23:48am

re: #1224 Alouette

A dhimmi like 0bama is not allowed to do the royal sword dance, unless it's to present his neck for decapitation.

They let Bush do it.

1248 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:23:58am

These guys should open a chain of coffee shops. Way better than Starbucks. Who wouldn't like being served a cappuccino by a silent contemplative monk?

1249 albusteve  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:24:37am

re: #1239 reloadingisnotahobby

Spent a lot of time on Lake Havasu in the 60's and 70's....
The pilots loved to do low passes under the 200 ft high
power lines down near the dam....them max performance
climbs and break the sound barrier............
The coolest thing for a 12 yearold!

the only time I ever heard a sonic boom was back in MI as a kid...my dad explained it to me then...never heard one since, but the roar at the airshow is pretty cool...watching an F16 go vertical like a missle

1250 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:24:53am

re: #1243 alegrias


Don't be an idiot. Irrational exuberance is not necessarily a good thing as former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan advised when the tech bubble was growing wildly.

Not all growth is healthy growth. Sometimes it's a tumour.

Good point. This glimmer of economic recovery should be opposed and stamped out as soon as possible. Tea party!

1251 Russkilitlover  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:25:12am
1252 alegrias  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:25:15am

Wow, Moveon.org haters are targetting moderate Dem. Evan Bayh for not supporting Obama's budget!

Despicable fraggers. Senator Bayh should become a republican, he's too decent for these goose-stepping leftists.

1253 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:25:34am

+ 295.97

Disaster!

1254 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:25:39am
1255 Sharmuta  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:26:08am

re: #1251 Russkilitlover

Atlas Shrugged - The Movie?

Angelina Jolie owns the rights. There is NO WAY I will give that woman a cent od my money.

1256 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:26:26am

re: #1239 reloadingisnotahobby

Spent a lot of time on Lake Havasu in the 60's and 70's....
The pilots loved to do low passes under the 200 ft high
power lines down near the dam....them max performance
climbs and break the sound barrier............
The coolest thing for a 12 yearold!

And you can still hear?
I was in the Explorers, and we had a trip to Otis AFB. We were in a car at the end of the runway while the Air National Guard took off in F-106's. They were LOUD, and you really felt it when they kicked in the afterburner.

1257 Occasional Reader  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:26:26am

Serious hamsterism here. Thread has crapped out on me four times. Will try later.

1258 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:27:06am
1259 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:27:09am

re: #1251 Russkilitlover

Charlize Theron want to play in it? She's a raving lefty moonbat. Probably didn't read the book.

1260 CIA Reject  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:27:38am

Looks like another bad day for the good guys --->

1261 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:27:47am
1262 [deleted]  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:27:48am
1263 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:28:47am

re: #1256 Kosh's Shadow

Same here..
Lived under the pattern for Norton AFB in Cali..
The C5 was a nuisance.......

1264 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:28:52am

re: #1256 Kosh's Shadow

And you can still hear?
I was in the Explorers, and we had a trip to Otis AFB. We were in a car at the end of the runway while the Air National Guard took off in F-106's. They were LOUD, and you really felt it when they kicked in the afterburner.

I remember those jets at Otis. We used to vacation on the Cape, that's where my mom is from, so we'd go for two weeks and see family. The highlight for me was seeing those jets!

1265 alegrias  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:29:35am

re: #1250 Killgore Trout

Good point. This glimmer of economic recovery should be opposed and stamped out as soon as possible. Tea party!

* * * *
Off with your head.

I want our economy and nation to return to "full employment", prosperity and sanity.

I worry even if the market blips upward, what Obama has in store for us will take it all and them some, from us and our children.

For starters, wait till Obama and the G-20 pass the Carbon Tax on consumption, and every American gets $3,000 taken away for turning on the lights at home.

1266 Kenneth  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:29:47am

Charles up. Moving on...

1267 axegrinder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:34:24am

re: #1255 Sharmuta

Angelina Jolie owns the rights. There is NO WAY I will give that woman a cent od my money.

I always thought Jolie as kind of conservative. I know she didn't like Bush but come on, who did? The war made him very unpopular with just about everyone; it's one the main reason's I respect him for doing what he thought was right in the face of such public disapproval. She's not a loon like Susan Sarandon, Babs, and Sean Penn is she? Nobody can say she doesn't love kids. She is NOT Madonna.

1268 jorline  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:34:47am

Our friend just left for their four month yearly trip to St Petersburg, Russia.
Last year they got stuck in Russia due to the invation of Georgia.

I replaced their names...while reading the female part remember the Russian accent.

This is part of a thirteen page word document emailed today...his writing is hilarious and always filled with classic stories from each trip.

May 30, 2009

The Trip to The East

07:00 am Time to rise and finish dozens of unchecked items on my “to-do-list while Irina quietly sleeps a little longer. She won’t enjoy the long trip.

The baggage is the major problem. Every year I think we take more and more clothes and junk than the year before, even after promising that we will keep stuff in both places rather than lugging it back and forth. “OK this is the final weigh in” I scream. “Irina, Irina, what did you sneak into your bags last night while I was not looking? Your bags weigh in at 49 and 52 pounds – unacceptable! Unload and move to my bags. ASAP!”

Typical Russian behavior is to deny that there are rules and even if there might be rules nobody will enforce them, they are there only to be broken. But my practicality and knowledge of this sneaky Russian behavior pattern forces her to dig back into the bags and redo the packing for probably the 15th time. Finally! I think we are in the limits: 48 lbs, 49 lbs, 49.5 lbs and 40 lbs. “But wait! There’s more we have Tolick’s Disney fire truck. We must carry it on” Irina says.

“Yes dear” my reply “Let me go back to the computer and once again see what the allowable dimensions are. OK British Air.com, baggage, here it is – 22inches long, 18 wide, 12 tall. Irina this is the only duffle bag we have that will meet the specs.” As I pull out my old salty Nauticat sea bag, beautiful sea blue and red, good memories of sailing.

“Joe! That bag is too ugly, we cannot use it. I will go buy a new one.”

“Irina, NO! We use this one or everything stays here”. Reluctantly she agrees and we start filling up yet another bag.

So the final count is 4 large bags to check, the duffle bag weighing in around 20lbs, my computer bag another 15-20lbs, Irina’s designer nick-nack bag 10lbs maybe, and her purse. I hope we can keep track of all these bags.

Our ride shows up around noon and we head for the airport. I tell John that he will have to wait just a minute while I make sure that the bags weigh in under 50lbs. Sure enough our scale was light by about 2 lbs. The first bag comes in at 51.5lbs. ”Is this one OK to go” I asked the girl behind the counter.

“Not today.” She said “My supervisor is here and I must be very strict about the weight limits”.

So we had to lay the bags out on the floor of the terminal, open them to the world exposing all of our treasures or dirty laundry and start swapping around things. Looked like the Clampets of Beverly Hillbillies fame heading out on vacation. We got them all in or at 50lbs and
Proceeded with out checkout. Gave her my tickets and told her we were headed to St Petersburg Russia and would like to check our bags through. A blank expression appeared on her face. I could see trouble and we were running out of time. “Let me check with my Supervisor” she said. Returning quickly she said “I don’t have time to do that, it takes too long. I will just check you through to Houston. Oh, and by the way you owe me $80 for all the bags.” Things were just getting better and better.

Cont....

1269 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:35:54am

re: #1262 Iron Fist

My understanding is that inflation risk depends on how they handle things once the recovery begins. I'm not sure if we're recovering yet but I hope they get it right.

1270 jorline  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:36:14am

Cont... Russia Trip

I immediately realized this would be a major hassle, hauling 250lbs of luggage in 7 bags across the Houston airport. “In the past you guys always checked the bags through, and if we are making an international flight we should be able to take 2 bags for free. What is going on here?”

“Sir” she said. “Things have changed, I am the only one at the counter and”, pointing at the clock “your time is up, bag checkin just closed! If you want you can come back tomorrow and leave then!” We had to go so there was no point in arguing any longer.

In leaving I muttered “you guys would be better off selling tickets by the poundage of the passenger rather than the bags since ‘weight is weight’. And now ¾ of the frequent flyers seem to be over 300 lbs and I am always squeezed between them when I have the center seat”.

“Oh, no sir we couldn’t do that! Then we would get sued. And for that nasty remark God will punish you”.

With that we headed for the plane. The trip to Houston was normal. But soon as we hit the deck we were on a mission to get out bags checked in with British Air as we were on a short connection.

1271 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:39:55am

re: #1270 jorline
Hey jorline - where's the rest of the story?!

1272 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:41:42am

re: #1259 Kenneth

Charlize Theron want to play in it? She's a raving lefty moonbat. Probably didn't read the book.

Has she read any books?

1273 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:43:27am

re: #1264 Leonidas Hoplite

I remember those jets at Otis. We used to vacation on the Cape, that's where my mom is from, so we'd go for two weeks and see family. The highlight for me was seeing those jets!

On an earlier trip, before they got the 106's, I sat in an F-84. A real F-84. Well, the front part, anyway; the back half of the fuselage was removed and the engine was out, but it was a real fighter.
And we flew in a C-54.

1274 jorline  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:47:02am

re: #1271 realwest

Hey jorline - where's the rest of the story?!

I reading it now...I love his tales...more coming.

Quickly got our bags (thank goodness the #### clerk didn’t accidentally loose them out of spite), loaded them on the little dollies and headed for the train to the International Terminal. Of course the biggest hassle is getting 4 bags into and out of the terminal train. Hauling them two-by-two, they always are just a little too big to squeeze through the door and of course when the train stops you always seem to be standing in front of the one car that is filled with other travelers. So after missing the first train, we manage to lug our luggage into the tiny little train car and head towards the international terminal.

The instructions given to us by a newly arrived immigrant manning the information booth in some kind of Arabic/English dialect were a little hazy, but I knew which terminal we needed and didn’t have time for further deciphering. Unfortunately I didn’t know exactly how to get there. After a few miss-turns we found the BA counter. Of the 5 check-in counters manned 4 were for 1st class with only one person being served, the rest of the agents were doing their nails or some other important duty. So we waited patiently while the only other steerage class customer, an elderly Asian/Indian couple was being served. Looking at my watch, “we are not making any progress here. The elderly Asian/Indian couple seems to be reading every word of the small print and having the legal implications explained in detail. I will have to beg one of the 1st class ladies to break down and help us.” I begged, she agreed and finally we were moving forward again.

“Oh I thought, what if their scales are not the same as the #### scales”

I tell her of our problem in Corpus and she just shrugs and says “there’re OK”.

“Wheeeeu, one more problem eliminated”. And we head to the gate, only to find that the flight has been delayed. “OK, I will just set up my computer and Irina can go shop” that’s our life.

After about 45 minutes Irina shows up and I tell her that I am going to check on our seats since the BA check-in lady was suppose to seat us together and didn’t. I wander over to the gate guy and find a couple of seats together on an exit row. “Great! We’ll take them”. I told the guy. “More leg room” I thought, “plus if we crash and survive at least I am in charge of opening the door and jumping into the freezing North Atlantic where your life expectancy is probably 10 minutes, plus or minus a minute.” Meanwhile as I am standing there this African lady with two little kids pushing a stroller and a luggage dolly runs into me from the back. She apparently thought she could board now and didn’t quite negotiate the corner and slammed into my leg. Little did I know that this was an ominous omen!

Limping a bit back to our seat I told Irina the great news about out seats. She always struggles with these long flights and I knew the extra room would make it just a little easier.

Well we board with the rest of the great unwashed and proceed to our premium coach class seats to settle in for the 8 hr flight. The exit row seats are behind the bulkhead and next to a toilet and it’s waiting area. Not exactly what I had expected, but we won’t have anyone slamming their seat into our face when eating.

Cont....

1275 axegrinder  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:47:16am

re: #1259 Kenneth

Charlize Theron want to play in it? She's a raving lefty moonbat. Probably didn't read the book.

Probably not. She's also a raving beauty and a very good actress. She could carry the role. She will play the character very unsympathetically but lets face it; that's the way Rand would want it.

1276 jorline  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:48:16am

Russian Trip cont...

As we are settling in I spot the African lady coming down the aisle with two small boys. She is turning right into the seats across the aisle from us and Irina tells me how cute the little boys are. I tell her how this lady ran me down with her baggage cart earlier. Then we notice a large, probably 270lb plus man eying the remaining open seat next to Irina. Sure enough he plops down and kinda flows over into Irina’s seat zone. From behind us, or somewhere near by came that ubiquitous Foreigner Flavor, the aroma of 10 day old body odor. “It had the makings of a long trip” I thought.

As the little African clan pitches camp next to us I can see that the natives are a little restless. Our seats were in an open area with only the bulkhead in front; a perfect play ground. They are jumping around on the seats, running around the open area, squealing and having a great little time - boys will be boys. Which is not bad I just would like to be able to get a little sleep during the flight and am not sure if that might also be in their plan.

Sitting right by the toilet, had it’s pluses and minuses. Of course we could always get up and go with out waiting. Then I discovered another plus,whenever the door opened the succulent, sweet smell of the deodorant wafted over to us and temporarily replaced the BO smell.

It wasn’t long before the head stewardess was responding to pleadings from the other passengers about the little African clan. She marched down and began demanding in that very British way that the Mother, or Grandmother, or maybe a man whoever she was, we couldn’t figure it out, take control her kids and put them in their seats. At this point the African Mother/Grandmother, who seemed to understand English before, suddenly developed a comprehension impairment. I could hear the head stewardess screaming “there’re not my kids, there’re yours and you must get them in their seats!” No visible reaction from the Mother/Grandmother. But wait! I see her slowly grabbing those wiggling little bodies and then slamming them into the seats. Opps, a little too rough and one starts crying. Mother/Grandmother consoles the little fellow, he gets strapped in and we are off.

1277 jorline  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:51:23am

Russian Trip cont...

I started to think that a little extra legroom might not be worth all the extra excitement and I had noticed that the entire area in front of us, probably business class, was empty. So I decided to ask the head stewardess about the possibility of moving. My suggestion to her was “I notice that the cabin right in front of us has no one in it I wonder if we might be able to move up there and let the little kids have a bigger play area?”

A confused look instantly came over her face. “Sir, that is another Class, absolutely impossible. Perhaps something back here. Ahh you could have this last row in the center, it is empty”.

First, I didn’t think about it at the time, but I am sure my request to move up to the business class caught her totally by surprise. British, after all have always been very class conscious. And my request was akin to asking the Queen if we might just stop by for a spot of tea on the way to the market. So, even though you can occasionally get an upgrade on US carriers I guess it is a foreign concept to the foreign carriers.

“No, I guess we will stay where we are, my wife likes the extra room and hopefully things will quite down”. Back I trundled, resolving myself to what I expect will be an extra long flight. What do I find, but Irina befriending the little boys and offering them a banana. Maybe that will settle them down.

As we get to altitude the Mother/Grandmother throws down blankets on the floor around her seats, gets a big zebra skin bag out the overhead and I am thinking, “Are they going to start a fire and cook something up?” The in-flight meal service should start soon and maybe they had a special order. Nope, the Mother/Grandmother just wrestled the smallest little critter down and began changing his diaper. The perfect thing to get our taste buds activated for British Cooking – the smell of baby poop. “Oh well, the Brits have never been known for their gourmet skills” and after the delivery of the meal I could see that they were living up to their reputation.

Well after a few hours, a full stomach, everyone seems to be settling in around our little cabin zone. Irina is getting started on the movie and I am thinking about trying to get some sleep. The seats are actually the most comfortable I have found in coach. They have these kind of wings that hold your head in place and with a pillow on one side and the wing on the other your head is wedged in so you could actually relax without having your head snap down when you begin snoozing.

I closed my eyes and all the stress of the past couple of days was beginning to wane. I felt like I was actually falling to sleep. Then a loud thud and following vibration snapped me back to ready alert. Is the plane experiencing some kind of problem? Wham there it goes again! As I regain full consciousness the situation becomes perfectly clear - more trouble across the aisle. The older rascal had been quietly strapped into his seat, but now he has found the table. Our seats had the tables that folded up and fit into the armrest between the seats. So junior figured out that he could pull it up and then slam it back down – great fun for him, not for me. Not only was it loud the vibrations could be felt all the way to my chair. I gave the Mother/Grandmother a dirty look and she restrained the little fellow.

Soon thereafter I was once again drifting off in to sweet dreams! “Joe” Irina shouts into my ear. I bolt out of my slumber, jump up, until my seat belt restrains my forward motion and I recoil back into my chair.

Cont...

1278 jorline  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:53:34am

Russia Trip cont...

“What, what is it?” I ask in confusion. Irina starts yelling at the top of her voice something that I couldn’t quite understand in my stupor. I put my finger to my lips and go “Shussssss”, the universal signal for “quiet”. Well universal except for Russians I guess. Irina keeps yelling something and then since I could also hear the movie, I realize she has her earphones on and turned up to MAX. I calmly lift the closest earphone off her ear and using an elevated voice level ask “what do you want? You are yelling and waking everyone.”

Irina yells “I am not yelling! I just want to ask you about this movie”.

“Well I beg to differ, but I will try and answer your historical questions about why the Japanese were in China and why there were British there and why was there fighting and……” So after finishing the brief history lesson and Irina returned to her movie I decided hell with it; I was moving up to the next class cabin for some peace. Got my little blanket, went through the curtains, found a seat (that was easy since there were probably 40 empties and only one other person in the entire area) and tried to get back to sleep.

Then I discovered that the seats in the “upper class” were less comfortable than in the cattle car section. But, it was definitely alot quieter. “I will put up with the crappy seats and try to get back to sleep in the morgue-like cabin” I thought. Impossible of course after a couple of hours, give up and return to my regular seat. What the heck, breakfast would be served soon, sleep time was over anyways.

I was right and soon the meal cart arrived delivering our morning juice, yogurt and dry bun with only a cheese slice in between – delicious. The captain’s voice told us to eat fast that we would be landing shortly.

“Whoooa” poking our nose out the ladder I could instantly tell that it was not Houston weather. Cool and damp in England. I wondered what it would be like in Russia. The answer arrived quickly. As we had a quick connection in Heathrow we were settling in on the next flight to Russia, when the captain told us that it was 1 degree celisus (that’s just a hair over freezing) with blowing sleet mixed with snow. A perfect welcome for a boy from south Texas.

1279 realwest  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 9:58:40am

Joline - is that it?!?

1280 redstateredneck  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 10:11:26am

re: #1171 Texas Heathen

{ { {HEATHEN} } } !
What up, Paw Paw?

1281 jorline  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 10:19:43am

re: #1279 realwest

Joline - is that it?!?

I continued the story above RW.

1282 Fierce Guppy  Thu, Apr 2, 2009 10:52:30am

Here's someone in the media actually doing their job.

Polar bears were not stranded on the melting remnants of an ice flow.

We already knew about that one, though.

Tony.


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