This week I wanted to ban some obnoxious referrer spambots that were linking to sites peddling Cialis, so I started writing a regular expression to block out any referrers that had *cialis* in their URL.
Then I realized this would also block out any referrers that had “socialist” in their URL.
Another commie plot? Make of it what you will.
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freetoken Sun, Sep 16, 2012 5:46:52pm |
Here's your commie plot!
Modifying Human Embryos to Thwart Disease Weighed in U.K.
Should parents concerned about passing on genetic diseases to their children be allowed to swap DNA with a donor’s?
A U.K. regulatory agency is posing the question to the public starting today as the government explores whether to allow genetic modification of human embryos to prevent some diseases. The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority, or HFEA, will report findings to the Department of Health in March, the agency said in a statement today.
The procedure, which isn’t available in the U.S., involves transferring healthy nuclear DNA from one fertilized human egg with unhealthy mitochondrial DNA to a donor embryo with disease- free mitochondria. The approach may prevent genetic disorders such as learning disabilities, heart disease and diabetes. Serious forms of mitochondrial disease affect one in every 6,500 children.
[...]
With the religious anti-abortionists believing there is something magical in "DNA", and with their belief in the mysterious powers of "baby juice", will genetic engineering of humans ever come to these shores?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 5:48:58pm |
Charles Johnson refuse to discuss Obama's Socialism!!1 This proves that he is a Communist Progressive!!!11
/Diary of Dorkus
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Iwouldprefernotto Sun, Sep 16, 2012 5:50:12pm |
Insert joke about "Making it hard" here
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 5:50:41pm |
re: #1 freetoken
Did you see my big news on the previous thread?
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Charles Johnson Sun, Sep 16, 2012 5:51:32pm |
re: #3 Iwouldprefernotto
Insert joke about "Making it hard" here
I'm sure Karl Marx would have approved of boner pills.
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Destro Sun, Sep 16, 2012 5:53:38pm |
The British/Irish version of the Internationale sung by Alistair Hulett. Enjoy!
**LYRICS**
Arise, ye workers from your slumber,
Arise, ye prisoners of want.
For reason in revolt now thunders,
and at last ends the age of cant!
Away with all your superstitions,
Servile masses, arise, arise!
We'll change henceforth the old tradition,
And spurn the dust to win the prize!
So comrades, come rally,
And the last fight let us face.
The Internationale,
Unites the human race.
So comrades, come rally,
And the last fight let us face.
The Internationale,
Unites the human race.
No more deluded by reaction,
On tyrants only we'll make war!
The soldiers too will take strike action,
They'll break ranks and fight no more!
And if those cannibals keep trying,
To sacrifice us to their pride,
They soon shall hear the bullets flying,
We'll shoot the generals on our own side.
So comrades, come rally,
And the last fight let us face.
The Internationale,
Unites the human race.
So comrades, come rally,
And the last fight let us face.
The Internationale,
Unites the human race.
No saviour from on high delivers,
No faith have we in prince or peer.
Our own right hand the chains must shiver,
Chains of hatred, greed and fear.
E'er the thieves will out with their booty,
And to all give a happier lot.
Each at his forge must do their duty,
And we'll strike the iron while it's hot.
So comrades, come rally,
And the last fight let us face.
The Internationale,
Unites the human race.
So comrades, come rally,
And the last fight let us face.
The Internationale,
Unites the human race.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Sep 16, 2012 5:56:37pm |
re: #5 Charles Johnson
Yeah, except for the fact that under Communism, you'd have to wait three hours in line for a pill that would likely have been cut with corn starch to meet quota.
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 5:57:54pm |
OT - Red Alert!
I'm tired of dealing with Libyan-Obama conspiracy nuts in this comment thread. Give me some support. bit.ly/Pd4yNV— Roger Ebert (@ebertchicago) September 17, 2012
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:00:39pm |
re: #9 Dark_Falcon
Filthy Communist drivel. Downding.
Meh. We've played that song in here before. For some of us it's all in good fun. I'm no communist but it's an interesting song.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:01:19pm |
re: #6 Destro
It's almost as if you know what buttons to push.
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Lidane Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:01:32pm |
Romney campaign in disarray via @politico: politi.co/SrYGi6— Krystal Ball (@KrystalBall1) September 17, 2012
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:02:43pm |
re: #12 Lidane
I love the smell of rats leaving a sinking ship in the morning ;)
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wrenchwench Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:07:31pm |
Sympathy for the unhatched.
Later, lizards.
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bratwurst Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:07:53pm |
This Politico piece is VERY interesting reading...I am already casting the HBO movie version of it in my head. Also pretty interesting to note that Drudge has promoted this story as well.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:08:23pm |
re: #9 Dark_Falcon
Filthy Communist drivel. Downding.
You don't think the song is apropos considering the topic of the thread?
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darthstar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:08:23pm |
Finally, some political porn worth reading...
Romney campaign in disarray via @politico: politi.co/SrYGi6— Krystal Ball (@KrystalBall1) September 17, 2012
As the Tampa convention drew near, Wehner, now a “senior adviser” and blogger for the campaign, was laboring under an unusual constraint for the author of a high-stakes political speech. He was not invited to spend time with Romney, making it impossible to channel him fluently.
Nevertheless, Wehner came up with a draft he found pleasing, including the memorable line: “The incumbent president is trying to lower the expectations of our nation to the sorry level of his own achievement. He only wins if you settle.” It also included a reference to Afghanistan, which was jettisoned with the rest of his work.
Instead, eight days before the convention, at a time when a campaign usually would be done drafting and focused instead on practicing such a high-stakes speech, Stevens frantically contacted John McConnell and Matthew Scully, a speechwriting duo that had worked in George W. Bush’s campaign and White House. Stevens told them they would have to start from scratch on a new acceptance speech. Not only would they have only a few days to write it, but Romney would have little time to practice it.
Disarray...How I love that word in this context.
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makeitstop Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:08:44pm |
I think this post may have irreversably changed my pronunciation of the word 'socialist.'
Now I'm accenting the al.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:10:24pm |
re: #18 Mocking Jay
You don't think the song is apropos considering the topic of the thread?
Not given who posted it. if it had been posted in an ironic fashion then I'd say it was fine, but Destro is the kind of left-winger who actually believes that shit.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:11:12pm |
re: #21 Dark_Falcon
Not given who posted it. if it had been posted in an ironic fashion then I'd say it was fine, but Destro is the kind of left-winger who actually believes that shit.
I disagree with a lot of what you say, but I don't downding you for that.
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Obdicut Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:13:21pm |
re: #21 Dark_Falcon
There's nothing in the lyrics except the shooting generals bit that's really objectionable. And even then, with some nations, that wouldn't be.
How about this one?
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:13:38pm |
Panic!
Now leading @politico: Inside the campaign: How Mitt Romney stumbled -- politi.co/PxFuiG— POLITICO (@politico) September 16, 2012
.@jaketapper You mean Romney staffers trying to save their careers as professional political operatives by shifting the blame?— Will McAvoy (@WillMcAvoyACN) September 17, 2012
Romney had 1 event on sched over wkend due to debate prep.Still an oddly light sched in race when ur down in most swings &have anxious base.— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) September 17, 2012
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FitzroyMcLean Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:13:42pm |
I'm following you guys to this thread because I feel bad about what happened. I swear that I'm such a big fan of this blog and wish no harm. I found this blog through Andrew Sullivan when he referred to the positive direction/change here. I have been reading religiously ever since.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:14:27pm |
re: #9 Dark_Falcon
Filthy Communist drivel. Downding.
I always preferred the People's Flag, The Red Flag over the International.
;)
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:15:04pm |
re: #23 Mocking Jay
I disagree with a lot of what you say, but I don't downding you for that.
True, but you and I don't troll. Destro goes out of his way to bother those here who are right-of-center. Thus he gets the downding.
I forgive Jimmah's support of the fellow, as the GI Joe character 'Destro' is a Scot, after all.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:15:23pm |
re: #26 FitzroyMcLean
I'm following you guys to this thread because I feel bad about what happened. I swear that I'm such a big fan of this blog and wish no harm. I found this blog through Andrew Sullivan when he referred to the positive direction/change here. I have been reading religiously ever since.
Uhh... you're starting to creep me out a 'lil.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:15:59pm |
re: #19 darthstar
Finally, some political porn worth reading...
[Embedded content]
Disarray...How I love that word in this context.
That's not the word I would have used...deshabille, perhaps.
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:16:06pm |
re: #25 Gus
Panic!
[Embedded content]
Couldn't happen to a nicer smirking psychopath.
seriously, I can't begin to tell you how much that picture creeps and disgusts me the fuck out
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darthstar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:18:11pm |
re: #20 makeitstop
I think this post may have irreversably changed my pronunciation of the word 'socialist.'
Now I'm accenting the al.
Nothing like a little soCIALISm when the mood is right.
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:19:22pm |
re: #32 darthstar
Nothing like a little soCIALISm when the mood is right.
It's how we can get things working again!
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Aye Pod Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:20:31pm |
re: #28 Dark_Falcon
True, but you and I don't troll. Destro goes out of his way to bother those here who are right-of-center. Thus he gets the downding.
I forgive Jimmah's support of the fellow, as the GI Joe character 'Destro' is a Scot, after all.
I support the right of all to post the Internationale without harassment. Even sattv should be able to post it. Can't say fairer than that.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:21:07pm |
re: #25 Gus
Panic!
[Embedded content]
When all else fails, there's always plenty of time for this.
Image: pointing-finger.gif
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:22:46pm |
re: #35 Aye Pod
I support the right of all to post the Internationale without harassment. Even sattv should be able to post it. Can't say fairer than that.
I didn't harass Destro. Showed hostility in a post and downding, but that's all I did.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:22:51pm |
re: #34 William Barnett-Lewis
It's how we can get things working again!
I think the markets are go-go-going to s-s-sssurge!
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Aye Pod Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:24:13pm |
re: #31 Interesting Times
Couldn't happen to a nicer smirking psychopath.
seriously, I can't begin to tell you how much that picture creeps and disgusts me the fuck out
Hard to look at that picture without imagining a voiceover from a certain Mr Dexter Morgan containing some interesting and insighful observations.
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:24:20pm |
re: #38 Dark_Falcon
I didn't harass Destro. Showed hostility in a post and downding, but that's all I did.
Very well then! I up-dinged both of you. ;)
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FitzroyMcLean Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:25:41pm |
re: #29 Mocking Jay
Sorry, I just followed up because I felt bad.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:25:56pm |
Totally Random Picture of the day--
If you played Oregon Trail as a child, you know what the Barlow Road is.
Here is a portion of the Barlow Road that is still the same as it was. That sand that you see is real; it's right near the White River, so there's sand. This is the Oregon trail as it looked in the 1850's.
Er, except for the tire tracks. The sand would have had wagon tracks instead.Image: IMG_4289.JPG
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Achilles Tang Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:27:21pm |
re: #1 freetoken
Here's your commie plot!
Modifying Human Embryos to Thwart Disease Weighed in U.K.
With the religious anti-abortionists believing there is something magical in "DNA", and with their belief in the mysterious powers of "baby juice", will genetic engineering of humans ever come to these shores?
I believe there was a court case in Spain recently where the hoped for parents of IVF decided to abandon a PRE implantation embryo because tests showed it to have a serious genetic flaw, I forget the term while typing, but with a certain miserable life and death by 35 or sooner.
In such cases some embryos are always discarded, even without testing, but in this case religion said that since the test was done and the decision was made, that constituted abortion. I believe the courts ruled for the parents to be since there was no implantation, but the principle of religion imposing, not because of circumstance (since there was no real pregnancy) but because of knowledge seems telling to me. They wanted to impose man made suffering on life, because man knew it would happen.
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Achilles Tang Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:29:05pm |
re: #39 darthstar
I think the markets are go-go-going to s-s-sssurge!
Bbbut, Paul Ryan says it is an economic fraud and all investors must be wrong...
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FitzroyMcLean Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:29:06pm |
re: #47 Gus
Stepped in it. Not a good introduction on my behalf.
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:29:43pm |
re: #47 Gus
Felt bad about what?
See previous thread. Apparently FitzroyMcLean is the latest victim of "are they a stalker or aren't they" syndrome. Normally I'm pretty good at guessing, but this is one case where I'm genuinely stumped. Only two comments prior to the one I linked, which seemed perfectly sane.
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Lidane Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:29:44pm |
REMINDER: At one point the GOP was as united to defeat Mitt Romney as they've ever been united about anything.— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) September 17, 2012
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:31:23pm |
re: #52 Interesting Times
See previous thread. Apparently FitzroyMcLean is the latest victim of "are they a stalker or aren't they" syndrome. Normally I'm pretty good at guessing, but this is one case where I'm genuinely stumped. Only two comments prior to the one I linked, which seemed perfectly sane.
Just want to add, I normally prefer to at least start out with the benefit of the doubt, otherwise the terrorists stalkers win.
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FitzroyMcLean Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:33:11pm |
Ask me anything! I'm a 45 year old female from Virginia. Political junkie. Father worked for AP for 25 years. Grew up talking politics with my family. Parents were hard core democrats. I seem to have inherited it.
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Belafon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:34:27pm |
There are other sites that have that problem, notably Word Press sites. I'm sure you know this, but search for Cialis by itself.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:34:53pm |
re: #55 FitzroyMcLean
Ask me anything! I'm a 45 year old female from Virginia. Political junkie. Father worked for AP for 25 years. Grew up talking politics with my family. Parents were hard core democrats. I seem to have inherited it.
How many teaspoons in a tablespoon?
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:35:26pm |
re: #26 FitzroyMcLean
I'm following you guys to this thread because I feel bad about what happened. I swear that I'm such a big fan of this blog and wish no harm. I found this blog through Andrew Sullivan when he referred to the positive direction/change here. I have been reading religiously ever since.
Less is more. People tend to view obsequious praise with suspicion, especially around here. Rewards go to insightful, informative, & witty comments along with quality snark and trash talk.
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FitzroyMcLean Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:35:50pm |
re: #57 Cannadian Club Akbar
Funny! I needed to laugh:)
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:36:23pm |
re: #56 Belafon
There are other sites that have that problem, notably Word Press sites. I'm sure you know this, but search for Cialis by itself.
[tinfoil hat]
Could the drugmakers have done this deliberately? "Bwahaha! Web filters be damned! Eliminate us and suffer the unintended consequences!"
[/tinfoil hat]
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FitzroyMcLean Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:36:51pm |
re: #58 goddamnedfrank
See! That's a high bar! That's why I just like to read.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:38:00pm |
re: #59 FitzroyMcLean
Funny! I needed to laugh:)
You didn't answer the question. I'll give you a hint: it's a whole number between two and four.
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:38:30pm |
re: #51 FitzroyMcLean
Stepped in it. Not a good introduction on my behalf.
re: #52 Interesting Times
See previous thread. Apparently FitzroyMcLean is the latest victim of "are they a stalker or aren't they" syndrome. Normally I'm pretty good at guessing, but this is one case where I'm genuinely stumped. Only two comments prior to the one I linked, which seemed perfectly sane.
OK, thanks. I saw the post in question. I'm not a fan of doing psychological evaluations in present company. I'm sure there are others here that may have clinical depression that aren't evident in their words. DF's had some health issues and recently lost his job.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:38:41pm |
re: #63 FitzroyMcLean
See! That's a high bar! That's why I just like to read.
Please. Join in. I've seen downdings on many, many of my post and I'll think, I know him, I know her, him, her, who the hell are these other people?
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CuriousLurker Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:38:58pm |
re: #58 goddamnedfrank
Less is more. People tend to view obsequious praise with suspicion, especially around here. Rewards go to insightful, informative, & witty comments along with quality snark and trash talk.
Perfect.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:39:02pm |
re: #64 Mostly sane, most of the time.
You didn't answer the question. I'll give you a hint: it's a whole number between two and four.
Ask her the one about the turtle.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:39:08pm |
re: #7 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Yeah, except for the fact that under Communism, you'd have to wait three hours in line for a pill that would likely have been cut with corn starch to meet quota.
Would that mean that one would only get half a boner?
///
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:39:47pm |
re: #65 Gus
re: #52 Interesting Times
OK, thanks. I saw the post in question. I'm not a fan of doing psychological evaluations in present company. I'm sure there are others here that may have clinical depression that aren't evident in their words. DF's had some health issues and recently lost his job.
Eggzactly. We all hit rough patches. Falling to your knees ain't the problem. Not getting up is.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:39:48pm |
Okay, if you haven't read the politico article linked to above (by both Gus and myself), do so. It's the kind of article that will have Mitt Romney waking up with an icky bottom on Monday morning, and god help any staff stuck on the bus with him...he's going to back up the plumbing in a big way. Yes, one of his guys, Stevens, is getting labeled the fall guy for all that's wrong with the campaign, but the writer does take pains to recognize that Mitt is very involved in all campaign decisions...he sees himself as the decider (where have we heard that term before?).
If you don't want to read it, just watch MSNBC tomorrow...they'll pull the juicy bits out at some point in the day and discuss them until they become meaningless...but that is their core weakness...not knowing when to let an idea sink in on its own.
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:40:06pm |
re: #66 Cannadian Club Akbar
Please. Join in. I've seen downdings on many, many of my post and I'll think, I know him, I know her, him, her, who the hell are these other people?
:P
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Mocking Jay Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:40:19pm |
re: #58 goddamnedfrank
Rewards go to insightful, informative, & witty comments along with quality snark and trash talk.
Flattery will get you everywhere, Frank.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:41:43pm |
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Mocking Jay Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:42:07pm |
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Only The Lurker Knows Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:42:25pm |
Night Lizards. Time to be productive in the Meat World (Like making Dinner).
Be well, and may the Deity of you choice smile down upon you.
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CuriousLurker Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:42:31pm |
re: #51 FitzroyMcLean
Stepped in it. Not a good introduction on my behalf.
Heh, since you've already walked in, tripped, and fallen flat on your face, then the worst that can happen is already over, right? Nothing to be afraid of now.
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:42:31pm |
re: #74 FitzroyMcLean
3. Do I pass now;)
We're all a work in progress over here. Some of us can flounce at any given moment. Others can reveal strange surprises of their personalities after many years of post at LGF.
| 80 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:42:49pm |
| 81 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:43:01pm |
re: #69 Gert Fröbe
Would that mean that one would only get half a boner?
///
It's Russia now. Not Soviet Union.
Party for Everybody!
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:43:29pm |
re: #71 darthstar
Okay, if you haven't read the politico article linked to above (by both Gus and myself), do so.
I suspect this isn't the first time someone has tried to conduct an autopsy on Mitt Romney while he's still alive.— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) September 17, 2012
Seriously, though, if this is how badly he bungles a campaign, imagine the weapons-grade clusterfuck he'd make of the presidency - WWIII, Great Depression 2.0, and Mad Max ecopocalypse all on the same day at the same time.
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:43:42pm |
re: #79 Gus
We're all a work in progress over here. Some of us can flounce at any given moment. Others can reveal strange surprises of their personalities after many years of post at LGF.
I'll flounce if Charles thinks Greedo shot first.
;)
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:44:25pm |
re: #83 Varek Raith
I'll flounce if Charles thinks Greedo shot first.
;)
I didn't think the prequels were that bad.
/ducks
| 85 |
Dancing along the light of day Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:44:49pm |
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CuriousLurker Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:45:08pm |
re: #79 Gus
We're all a work in progress over here. Some of us can flounce at any given moment. Others can reveal strange surprises of their personalities after many years of post at LGF.
Yep, I flounced for like an hour once.
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FitzroyMcLean Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:45:11pm |
re: #78 CuriousLurker
Good point. Feel like walking away with my tail between my legs now....
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:45:34pm |
re: #84 Targetpractice
I didn't think the prequels were that bad.
/ducks
I skipped them. If I want to watch a kid turn evil, I'll tell my four sons I have one Popsicle left and they have to fight for it.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:45:51pm |
re: #65 Gus
re: #52 Interesting Times
OK, thanks. I saw the post in question. I'm not a fan of doing psychological evaluations in present company. I'm sure there are others here that may have clinical depression that aren't evident in their words. DF's had some health issues and recently lost his job.
Healthwise, I'm actually doing well right now. And my job search proceeds decently. So don't worry much about me right now, guys. I'll let you know iif you need to worry.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:46:02pm |
I've seen Gus slam the door behind him a couple of times...
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Lidane Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:46:10pm |
re: #82 Interesting Times
[Embedded content]
Seriously, though, if this is how badly he bungles a campaign, imagine the weapons-grade clusterfuck he'd make of the presidency - WWIII, Great Depression 2.0, and Mad Max ecopocalypse all on the same day at the same time.
If the Romney campaign were the Salt Lake Olympics, they'd be calling Romney in to run it about now.— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) September 17, 2012
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:46:33pm |
re: #93 Mocking Jay
I've seen Gus slam the door behind him a couple of times...
It's twue! It's the Italian blood. ;)
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:46:49pm |
re: #79 Gus
We're all a work in progress over here. Some of us can flounce at any given moment. Others can reveal strange surprises of their personalities after many years of post at LGF.
And some of us are silently plotting the eventual downfall of Charles.
...crap, I've said too much.
//
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:47:48pm |
Meh. I just take my cookies and go.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:47:51pm |
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:47:52pm |
"Flounce with me,
Everybody say hey-o, hey-o..."
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:49:13pm |
re: #100 Gus
No detail please. Thanks. ;)
There was booze involved. With me. Not sure what you were doing.
/
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:49:14pm |
re: #84 Targetpractice
I didn't think the prequels were that bad.
/ducks
Well Attack of the Clones was watchable and Revenge of the Sith was actually good. The Phantom Menace however, stunk like a skunk.
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CuriousLurker Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:49:42pm |
re: #87 FitzroyMcLean
Good point. Feel like walking away with my tail between my legs now....
No. Do NOT wimp out. You won't get any respect here like that. You have to stick your chin out and defiantly challenge with, "Oh yeah? Well, which one of you geniuses has never screwed up before, huh? Raise your frickin' hands."
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:49:48pm |
re: #102 Dark_Falcon
Well Attack of the Clones was watchable and Revenge of the Sith was actually good. The Phantom Menace however, stunk like a skunk.
But...but...pod-racing!
///
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:50:24pm |
re: #103 CuriousLurker
No. Do NOT wimp out. You won't get any respect here like that. You have to stick your chin out and defiantly challenge with, "Oh yeah? Well, which one of you geniuses has never screwed up before, huh? Raise your frickin' hands."
*raises hand, notices glares, meekly lowers it*
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:50:33pm |
re: #102 Dark_Falcon
Well Attack of the Clones was watchable and Revenge of the Sith was actually good. The Phantom Menace however, stunk like a skunk.
My mom waited in line for 2 hours to get me Phantom Menace tickets in a pre-sale. I had to work. My mom's cool.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:50:36pm |
re: #99 Interesting Times
"Flounce with me,
Everybody say hey-o, hey-o..."[Embedded content]
Video not available in the greatest country God ever put on this earth.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:50:41pm |
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:50:45pm |
re: #97 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Meh. I just take my cookies and go.
If not we usually serve martyr cookies here.
//
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:50:54pm |
re: #96 Targetpractice
Beware the secret exits from under the Denver Airport!
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Mocking Jay Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:51:18pm |
re: #103 CuriousLurker
No. Do NOT wimp out. You won't get any respect here like that. You have to stick your chin out and defiantly challenge with, "Oh yeah? Well, which one of you geniuses has never screwed up before, huh? Raise your frickin' hands."
Seriously. Treat this place like prison and you'll do okay...
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Kronocide Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:51:29pm |
re: #103 CuriousLurker
No. Do NOT wimp out. You won't get any respect here like that. You have to stick your chin out and defiantly challenge with, "Oh yeah? Well, which one of you geniuses has never screwed up before, huh? Raise your frickin' hands."
(fricken hand raised)
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:53:10pm |
re: #111 Mocking Jay
Seriously. Treat this place like prison and you'll do okay...
Attica! Attica!
//
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Kronocide Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:53:26pm |
re: #111 Mocking Jay
Seriously. Treat this place like prison and you'll do okay...
I'll be Morgan Freeman: the guy who 'gets things.'
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Mocking Jay Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:55:20pm |
re: #114 Kronocide
I'll be Morgan Freeman: the guy who 'gets things.'
I'll be Michael Clarke Duncan.
Oh, wrong Stephen King prison movie...
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:55:29pm |
re: #114 Kronocide
I'll be Morgan Freeman: the guy who 'gets things.'
I won't be in it.
See, I've long since escaped.
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:56:07pm |
re: #115 Mocking Jay
I'll be Michael Clarke Duncan.
Oh, wrong Stephen King prison movie...
I'll be Hannibal Lecter.
Crap, wrong prison movie.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:56:22pm |
NSFW, someone I follow on Twitter linked to this video earlier today, a classic scene from Clerks 2:
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Lidane Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:56:36pm |
re: #84 Targetpractice
I didn't think the prequels were that bad.
/ducks
Midichlorians were an awful plot device and the prequels were terrible. Also, Jar Jar.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:56:38pm |
re: #114 Kronocide
I'll be Morgan Freeman: the guy who 'gets things.'
Well, I'm not gonna be the guy who "does stuff" for a free Moonpie. No way. Not again. Wait. What?
///
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:57:21pm |
I'm the one that visits and brings you baked goods.
Extra for the cakes with the extra iron for "nutrition."
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:57:55pm |
re: #119 Lidane
Midichlorians were an awful plot device and the prequels were terrible. Also, Jar Jar.
Oh Zod Jar Jar.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:58:03pm |
re: #104 Targetpractice
But...but...pod-racing!
///
[Before Dark_Falcon can respond to Targetpractice's comment, TP gasps, suddenly unable to breathe. He tries to cough, but finds to his horror than he cannot. Then he hears the deadly voice of Varek Raith:]
"I find your defense of the Movie Starring the Gungan Abomination disturbing."
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:59:55pm |
re: #111 Mocking Jay
Seriously. Treat this place like prison and you'll do okay...
That really deserves more than one upding..
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:00:13pm |
re: #117 Targetpractice
I'll be Hannibal Lecter.
Crap, wrong prison movie.
And he was in a mental institution, not a prison. Though Dr. Childers treated him and his fellow patients worse than Paul Edgecombe and most of the Green Mile guards treated the condemned men they guarded.
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Destro Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:00:39pm |
re: #17 Dark_Falcon
[Embedded content]
Capitalism banned your Lee Greenwood video of God 'Bless the USA'
:)
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:01:12pm |
Wow. I now know the name I'll use if I ever need a nom de guerre.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
An Army private for 90 years...
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:01:50pm |
re: #111 Mocking Jay
Seriously. Treat this place like prison and you'll do okay...
That's why I haven't taken a shower in here in months.
//
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:01:56pm |
re: #127 Destro
Not where I live, it didn't. I don't check international permissions before posting a vid, sorry.
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:02:28pm |
re: #126 Dark_Falcon
And he was in a mental institution, not a prison. Though Dr. Childers treated him and his fellow patients worse than Paul Edgecombe and most of the Green Mile guards treated the condemned men they guarded.
Times it seems like he's not so much crazy as just that damned good at faking it.
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CuriousLurker Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:02:40pm |
re: #114 Kronocide
I'll be Morgan Freeman: the guy who 'gets things.'
This place is actually more like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I'll be Nurse Ratched.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:03:50pm |
Okay, but once this place turns into Oz I'm outta here.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:04:04pm |
Quintessential commie super-plane, the Tupolev ANT-20 Maxim Gorki.
This was the largest landplane of the time (1934) and was built expressly as a propaganda vehicle. Equipment included a film lab and projection room, broadcast radio equipment, a printing press, and a lighted sign for conveying the Stalinist message to the masses below. It was supposed to have 6 engines but these lacked the predicted power so two more were added in a push-pull arrangement above the fuselage. Its wheel spats were reputed to be the largest ever made.
This aerial media leviathan came to a bad end during a film shoot on May 18th 1935. It was flying in close formation with a small I-5 fighter to contrast the sizes of the two planes. The pilot of the I-5, comrade Blagin, decided on his own to liven up the proceedings by doing a barrel roll around the ANT-20. It wasn't wide enough and Blagin crashed into the top of the larger plane's left wing. Both planes disintegrated, killing all 44 people on the ANT-20 along with Blagin (which was probably just as well for him) and 3 people on the ground. Soviet propagandists coined the term "blaginism" to refer to an arrogant and reckless disregard for authority. In American aeronautical circles this is known as "hot-doggery."
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:05:07pm |
re: #133 CuriousLurker
This place is actually more like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I'll be Nurse Ratched.
[Embedded content]
"I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this."
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:08:48pm |
re: #135 Shiplord Kirel
Interesting to imagine what might have happened had Stalin's purges not decimated those aircraft's design teams. With additional heavy bombers able to fly great distances, the USSR might have been able to mount regular bomber raids on Poland and maybe even Berlin. That might have shortened WWII by a notable amount.
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FitzroyMcLean Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:09:18pm |
re: #103 CuriousLurker
Okay, thanks. I will jump in off the sidelines more often. If even just to say, "hi".
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Digital Display Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:10:35pm |
You know..I never got the SciFi movies and books..I grew up watching and playing sports.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:11:17pm |
re: #133 CuriousLurker
Is that Christopher Lloyd I see at 1:24 into the clip?
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jaunte Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:11:36pm |
I started writing a regular expression to block out any referrers that had *cialis* in their URL.Then I realized this would also block out any referrers that had “socialist” in their URL.
I need to write this technique down for my next naming project.
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abolitionist Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:11:49pm |
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:11:54pm |
re: #142 Dark_Falcon
Is that Christopher Lloyd I see at 1:24 into the clip?
Ayep, it was his first major movie role, IIRC.
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sagehen Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:11:56pm |
re: #16 bratwurst
This Politico piece is VERY interesting reading...I am already casting the HBO movie version of it in my head. Also pretty interesting to note that Drudge has promoted this story as well.
Obama's superpower, that all his opponents self-destruct... is more suited to a graphic novel than an HBO movie version.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:12:02pm |
re: #142 Dark_Falcon
Is that Christopher Lloyd I see at 1:24 into the clip?
I checked Wikipedia and yes, that is him.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:12:34pm |
re: #140 Digital Display
You know..I never got the SciFi movies and books..I grew up watching and playing sports.
I can remember when ESPN came out. Nothing quite like watching bowling at 2AM.
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:12:39pm |
re: #140 Digital Display
You know..I never got the SciFi movies and books..I grew up watching and playing sports.
Don't worry, I feel just as out of my depth when talk turns to sports.
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makeitstop Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:13:03pm |
re: #136 Targetpractice
"I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this."
Who's the Bull Goose Loony?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:13:31pm |
re: #150 Targetpractice
Don't worry, I feel just as out of my depth when talk turns to sports.
Eli Manning threw for over 500 yards today against the Bucs.
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Destro Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:14:18pm |
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:17:14pm |
re: #152 Cannadian Club Akbar
Eli Manning threw for over 500 yards today against the Bucs.
Now that I do know.
Guess I should rephrase, I'm not so much lost as just...well...uninterested. I have one or two teams I like to watch (when the local networks will carry their games) and see go to the championships. But I never could make the sort of emotional connection I do to video game series I've followed religiously.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:19:44pm |
re: #156 Targetpractice
Now that I do know.
Guess I should rephrase, I'm not so much lost as just...well...uninterested. I have one or two teams I like to watch (when the local networks will carry their games) and see go to the championships. But I never could make the sort of emotional connection I do to video game series I've followed religiously.
So, like Pac Man and then Ms. Pac Man?
/
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:21:42pm |
re: #146 sagehen
Obama's superpower, that all his opponents self-destruct... is more suited to a graphic novel than an HBO movie version.
My analogy is to Tolkin's Silmarillion, with the hate felt for Obama serving as the Oath of Fëanor.
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:22:06pm |
re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar
So, like Pac Man and then Ms. Pac Man?
/
More like Mass Effect, Bioshock, or Fallout. I've got several albums of music from video games in my Zune, just because the music is awesome.
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Lidane Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:23:41pm |
re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar
So, like Pac Man and then Ms. Pac Man?
/
[Link: www.smbc-comics.com...]
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:27:28pm |
re: #118 Charles Johnson
NSFW, someone I follow on Twitter linked to this video earlier today, a classic scene from Clerks:
[Embedded content]
Boycott! Outrage!
/Just kidding
I was listening to an interview with Kevin Smith recently and the topic of his career arc came up. He's an astoundingly grounded person and acknowledged that he only had a handful of good movies in him. He used the quote "A beautiful woman dies two deaths" which I found a pretty enlightened perspective. He was a pioneer in indy film but doesn't seem very interested in being a godfather or intellectual leader of the movement. Clerks could never be made today within the studio system, it's just too controversial. But we are rapidly approaching a breaking point where movie and music studios vanish, TV networks are gone and with that comes ever increasing the ineffective advertiser boycotts by political/religious activists attempting to silence others through economic pressure.
I think we're due for another renaissance in art, music and movies by artists free from the burden of corporate funding (and economic boycotts) that comes through self publishing. I think it's just around the corner.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:30:06pm |
Saudi shuts 'male-staffed lingerie shops'
[Link: www.france24.com...]
"Sir. Can you help me pick out a thong?"
"I don't think so, sparky."
/
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jaunte Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:30:23pm |
Politico already has a post-mortem for the Romney campaign.
[Link: dyn.politico.com...]
A growing number of conservatives are blaming Stevens for advocating a campaign of caution, one that puts all the emphasis not on how good Romney could be but how bad Obama is. “Credit for this fog goes to that inner circle of Romney advisers who never liked the Ryan pick and have reasserted their will over a candidate who is naturally cautious,” conservative columnist Kimberley Strassel wrote in Friday’s Wall Street Journal. “In the la-la land where adviser Stuart Stevens presides, Mr. Romney wins by never saying a single thing, ever, that might rock a single boat, ever.”’
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Mocking Jay Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:31:58pm |
re: #164 jaunte
I should read the whole thread.
The links only been posted about four times already...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:32:02pm |
re: #161 Killgore Trout
Smith does the little things that make his movies awesome. Ever notice the name brand on the cigarettes in his movies?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:34:37pm |
re: #166 Cannadian Club Akbar
Smith does the little things that make his movies awesome. Ever notice the name brand on the cigarettes in his movies?
Nails!
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William Barnett-Lewis Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:35:07pm |
Good night all. Crashing early due to early morning car repair appointment.
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palomino Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:39:42pm |
re: #163 jaunte
Politico already has a post-mortem for the Romney campaign.
[Link: dyn.politico.com...]
It's the most galling thing about the new Mitt, other than his newfound penchant for lying about and distorting Obama's record (his attacks on Obama last week just being the most recent example).
It's no longer even news when Mitt flip flops on an issue...he's trying to be everything to everyone, not offend anyone, and in the process becomes nothing to anyone. He's like Oakland: there is no "there" there. It's one thing to be a non-ideologue moderate pragmatist (like Obama). Another thing entirely to backtrack every time you may have offended anyone, especially in the conservative base, and then turn around and offer up a new position. Thus the constant alterations in his policies, and the lack of any specifics. One example among many: Romney argued 6 months ago that the earth was warming and human activity plays a role; a couple days later, after broadsides from RW talking heads, he "modifies" his position to take out the A in AGW.
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Kronocide Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:44:58pm |
Sometimes jaded, sometimes sick of my biz. But sometimes the excitement of playing with new crap makes up for it.
Go new crap!
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makeitstop Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:45:31pm |
I don't know if this has been posted earlier, but....WTF?
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:46:55pm |
re: #172 makeitstop
I don't know if this has been posted earlier, but....WTF?
Hahahahaha! Desperation. They're going for Plan B!
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:47:43pm |
Oh please, Christine, do run again. Oh please, oh please, oh please...
Christine O'Donnell considering political comeback
Delaware Republican Christine O'Donnell is apparently mulling a comeback, saying in an interview published Sunday that she is considering another run for Senate in 2014.
“I think I owe that to my supporters, to at least consider a run,” O’Donnell told the Delaware News Journal in an interview published Sunday. “People sacrificed. Not only came out of their comfort zone — sacrificed to work hard in order to win the primary. And I think that I owe it to them to give it every consideration.”
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makeitstop Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:48:43pm |
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jaunte Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:49:06pm |
re: #172 makeitstop
I don't know if this has been posted earlier, but....WTF?
Wow, it's definitive; two black men holding their heads at approximately the same angle.
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makeitstop Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:50:08pm |
re: #177 jaunte
Wow, it's definitive; two black men holding their heads at approximately the same angle.
Proof positive!!11ty!
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:51:14pm |
re: #172 makeitstop
I don't know if this has been posted earlier, but....WTF?
So he's not Kenyan after all?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:51:20pm |
re: #175 Targetpractice
So, she's doing it for "them"? Yea, that's the ticket.
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Obdicut Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:53:20pm |
re: #177 jaunte
Wow, it's definitive; two black men holding their heads at approximately the same angle.
They look almost nothing alike.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:54:27pm |
Alrighty. I'm sure there will be people here in the morning in really good moods and it is my duty to piss them off. Nighty.:)
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:54:27pm |
re: #184 Gus
[Link: www.highway61ent.com...]
Works!
Includes...
Ahmadinejad’s Coming War for Islamic Revival and Obama’s Politics of Defeat
Guess that didn't pan out well.
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bratwurst Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:55:12pm |
re: #182 Gus
What's with the right wing film trend?
I have been wondering that myself. I strongly suspect the surprisingly good box office for the Dinesh D'Souza film was driven at least in part by the same "mass buy" tactics that right wing groups use to keep their books on the best seller lists.
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Obdicut Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:55:18pm |
Image: en-frank-marshall-davis4.jpg
Who would look at that and think "He looks like Obama?"
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alpuz Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:55:36pm |
re: #133 CuriousLurker
I know a women who's the spittin' image of Nurse Ratched. She went on to marry a good friend that I've known since we were five. Never said a word about the resemblance to said friend.. never will. That's my jumping in from the sidelines comment for the night. Now, after attending a very christian wedding this evening, feeling like the 'old guy' at the reception table, I'm going to enjoy a New Glarus Moon Man No Coast Pale ale or two and read some comments.
Huzzah!
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:55:47pm |
re: #187 bratwurst
I have been wondering that myself. I strongly suspect the surprisingly good box office for the Dinesh D'Souza film was driven at least in part by the same "mass buy" tactics that right wing groups use to keep their books on the best seller lists.
They must think it's a good propaganda tool.
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:56:27pm |
Looks like there's some expansion on reports that Roberts changed his mind in the lead-up to the release of the Obamacare decision.
New Book Details John Roberts’ Health Care Switch
The Bush-appointed jurist was caught in a bind, forced to choose between rebuking the conservative movement and risking his — and the court’s — legacy. A key factor that led to his decision to side with the court’s liberal wing, Toobin concluded, was the insistence of the four conservative justices on nullifying the health care law in its entirety.
“The four conservatives had overplayed their hand with the chief justice,” he writes. “By demanding that Roberts kill off the entire health care law, they prompted him to look for some kind of middle ground. … [Justice Antonin ] Scalia was enraged at the chief. … With all the changes, the cross-references among the various opinions became confused. … By a vote of 5-4, the Court would uphold the heart of the Affordable Care Act.”
Long story short, the "no-compromise" mentality of the wingnuts met the pragmatic need to avoid destroying the Court's credibility, and lost. It explains why so many folks think the dissenting opinion reads like it should be the majority opinion.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:57:19pm |
re: #188 Obdicut
Image: en-frank-marshall-davis4.jpg
Who would look at that and think "He looks like Obama?"
Half the people in the old Confederacy.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:57:43pm |
re: #183 Obdicut
They look almost nothing alike.
I'm given to understand that all black men look alike, depending on who's doing the looking.
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:58:32pm |
If Romney's self-described greatest skill is management, Politico's picture of his chaotic, back-stabbing, disorganized campaign is fatal.— roadkillrefugee (@rkref) September 17, 2012
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BongCrodny Sun, Sep 16, 2012 7:59:47pm |
re: #172 makeitstop
I don't know if this has been posted earlier, but....WTF?
Uh....so, does that mean he's *not* Kenyan?
I'm having some trouble keeping up with the crazy du jour.
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jaunte Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:00:11pm |
re: #195 Interesting Times
when your whole sell is "managerial competence" having your campaign staff turn on each other in September is kinda bad
— Tim Dickinson (@7im) September 17, 2012
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:00:36pm |
Speaking of film.
Protesters "believe 'Innocence of Muslims' a Hollywood production, passes through censorship & receives state approval" bit.ly/Uajsae— Borzou Daragahi (@borzou) September 16, 2012
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BongCrodny Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:00:50pm |
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:01:27pm |
re: #195 Interesting Times
[Embedded content]
We all kinda knew that the word was gonna come out, though most of us expected it to be after the election, when the slew of "tell-all" books started hitting the shelves. For Politico to actually report on the chaos behind the scenes while the election is still going on, at least to me, signals that the base is openly considering bailing on his ass in the face of an inability to do more than reach parity in the polls.
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makeitstop Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:01:49pm |
re: #193 Kronocide
Atlas Shrugged II coming on October! WOOT!
Will Smith as John Galt!
(OK mebbe not)
Did the actress who played Dagny in Part 1 bail? That's not the same woman.
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Obdicut Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:02:42pm |
re: #202 makeitstop
Did the actress who played Dagny in Part 1 bail? That's not the same woman.
When a marginally better actress became available, the former was immediately fired in accordance with libertarian principles.
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bratwurst Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:03:19pm |
re: #196 Gus
Irony. Right wingers are "going Hollywood."
Never fear...no matter how big their media footprint becomes, they will ALWAYS fall back on "the media is out to get us" when it suits them.
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BongCrodny Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:05:49pm |
re: #202 makeitstop
Did the actress who played Dagny in Part 1 bail? That's not the same woman.
Whoa. I think we may have found the one person who actually watched Part 1.
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makeitstop Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:06:20pm |
re: #203 Obdicut
When a marginally better actress became available, the former was immediately fired in accordance with libertarian principles.
I liked Taylor Schilling in the 'Mercy' series on NBC, and was disappointed when she showed up in that film. I'm glad she didn't sign on for part 2.
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gwangung Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:06:29pm |
re: #203 Obdicut
When a marginally better actress became available, the former was immediately fired in accordance with libertarian principles.
This is assuming they don't consider women interchangeable.
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makeitstop Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:07:30pm |
re: #205 BongCrodny
Whoa. I think we may have found the one person who actually watched Part 1.
Only the trailer. Now I've seen the trailer for part two, which is as much as I'm going to watch of that one, too.
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BongCrodny Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:09:32pm |
re: #208 makeitstop
Only the trailer. Now I've seen the trailer for part two, which is as much as I'm going to watch of that one, too.
I've been to our local video store maybe 30 times over the past six months, and I have yet to see that monstrosity be rented.
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makeitstop Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:11:54pm |
Part one by the numbers:
Budget $20 million
Box office $4,627,375
I'm surprised they even started production on part 2.
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Kronocide Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:12:01pm |
re: #203 Obdicut
When a marginally better actress became available, the former was immediately fired in accordance with libertarian principles.
Win one INTERNEZ plus an upding.
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sagehen Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:12:55pm |
re: #203 Obdicut
When a marginally better actress became available, the former was immediately fired in accordance with libertarian principles.
She's not better, she's just cheaper.
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Kronocide Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:14:21pm |
The sure the Atlas Shrugged series will become available as a set on various right wing blogs, straight to video. Act now and receive 2016 as a bonus.
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:15:07pm |
re: #210 makeitstop
Part one by the numbers:
Budget $20 million
Box office $4,627,375I'm surprised they even started production on part 2.
Wingnut arithmetic, how the fuck does it work?
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Decatur Deb Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:16:33pm |
re: #213 Kronocide
The sure the Atlas Shrugged series will become available as a set on various right wing blogs, straight to video. Act now and receive 2016 as a bonus.
I'll wait for the Franklin Mint commemorative plates, though I might get the kids the John Galt action figure for Christmas.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:16:44pm |
Finally had to quit talking to my tea party friend. He has gone full frontal Gellerite on Muslims, hates them so much it has damaged his brain. He quotes the Quran out of context, generalizes about 1.2 billion people, calls them names, and claims Obama and the media are soft on them.
I don't think he knows any Muslims personally and he has never been to a Muslim country.
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Kronocide Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:17:37pm |
re: #214 Interesting Times
Wingnut arithmetic, how the fuck does it work?
Hey.... lower taxes increase revenue. Because Obama is a Kenyan Marxist.
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BongCrodny Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:18:03pm |
One of the writers of Atlas Shrugged and the Government of Doom is a gentleman named Brian Patrick O'Toole.
You may know Mr. O'Toole from his work on such movies as Dog Soldiers, Cemetery Gates, Basement Jack, Evilution and the upcoming Necropolitan.
Or not.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:19:58pm |
Terror baby.
Photo of five-year-old Barack Obama in kindergarden in 1966. twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew…
— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) September 17, 2012
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freetoken Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:21:40pm |
re: #199 Gus
Speaking of film.
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Cross culture misunderstandings are the norm. That's why diplomacy is always needed.
This sort of ignorance is what the haters count on - they know people act irrationally, and scheme to make the best use of it.
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BongCrodny Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:22:47pm |
re: #219 Gus
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What scares me a bit is that it's just one fuck up after another for Romney, and he's *still* only a few points behind.
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:22:51pm |
re: #220 Mocking Jay
Terror baby.
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My sister had glasses like those. Reminds me of my childhood. I was even in one group shot where I'm just sitting right in the middle smiling just like him.
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Big Joe Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:23:02pm |
Shopped, I can tell by the pixels. He was added later. Look at how much darker than everyone else he is.
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Mocking Jay Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:24:38pm |
re: #224 Big Joe
Shopped, I can tell by the pixels. He was added later. Look at how much darker than everyone else he is.
Look at the layers!
THE LAYERS!
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makeitstop Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:25:11pm |
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Kronocide Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:25:58pm |
Lies!
@buzzfeedandrew LIES! Here's a real picture! twitter.com/samuelmoch/sta...— Samuel Moch (@samuelmoch) September 17, 2012
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:26:38pm |
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Kronocide Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:27:25pm |
re: #228 PT Barnum
Howdy. What's the good word?
Obsequious. Some crazy azz honco dropped it upstairs.
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:27:40pm |
re: #227 Kronocide
Judging by @samuelmoch avatar, I'm guessing that's snark. Otherwise, I'd be hopelessly unable to tell and that gives me a sad :(
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BongCrodny Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:28:55pm |
re: #228 PT Barnum
Howdy. What's the good word?
Not sure what the good word is, but as a Patriots fan I can tell you the bad word is "Gostkowski."
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:29:05pm |
re: #228 PT Barnum
Howdy. What's the good word?
Well, my all-time favorite word I would have to go look up. It's Russian, and it means, "Unholy and unclean."
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:31:29pm |
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:34:15pm |
.@astroacaba shortly after exiting the Soyuz TMA-04M spacecraft, returning from the #ISS & 125 days in space: twitpic.com/avhc1j— NASA (@NASA) September 17, 2012
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:34:27pm |
Had this seafood soup at our local Mexican joint today. Was really good but I think I got more on me than in me. (yeah I know, that's what she said)
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darthstar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:34:41pm |
I'm tempted to wake up at 3am just so I can watch Joe Scarborough's head explode as he tries to rationalize the Politico article about Mitt Romney.
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:37:01pm |
re: #243 darthstar
I'm tempted to wake up at 3am just so I can watch Joe Scarborough's head explode as he tries to rationalize the Politico article about Mitt Romney.
Scarborough will probably try and claim "I told you so." 10 bucks!
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:38:10pm |
I love the smell of wingnut desperation in the morning. Smells like...victory.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:39:14pm |
re: #240 Gus
Why an onion of course. And how often might I find you on this path dear sir?!
I crossed a donkey with an onion once and got a piece of ass that would bring tears to your eyes.
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darthstar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:39:34pm |
re: #244 Gus
Scarborough will probably try and claim "I told you so." 10 bucks!
Make it $10,000 bucks and you're on.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:39:50pm |
re: #243 darthstar
Do it & tell us about it! Pretty please!
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:40:36pm |
re: #247 darthstar
Make it $10,000 bucks and you're on.
Sure. Let me see if my parents can loan me 20 grand. Hang on... Phone's ringing...
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darthstar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:42:30pm |
re: #251 Gus
Sure. Let me see if my parents can loan me 20 grand. Hang on... Phone's ringing...
If I wanted 20 grand from your parents I'd show them the pictures I took of them on their vacation to Iowa.
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Mr. Crankypants Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:43:49pm |
Im going back to lurk mode. Trying to post on my phone is just too frustrating.
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:45:40pm |
re: #252 darthstar
If I wanted 20 grand from your parents I'd show them the pictures I took of them on their vacation to Iowa.
My folks remained pretty Catholic yet becoming secular and voting for Nader once. That was my fault. ;)
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:48:37pm |
OK I fess up. I thought Bibi did a great job in the horrible David Gregory interview. I don't know what it is. I like Bibi even though I disagree with him on a lot of things. He's mostly a good man and rather liberal.
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Mich-again Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:49:09pm |
This thought crossed my mind this morning watching the backyard.
What if squirrels don't bury nuts just to hide them for later. Maybe they're planting trees. hmm
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palomino Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:51:41pm |
re: #182 Gus
What's with the right wing film trend?
Obama's in office, and there's an election coming up.
Also, many evangelicals have completely sworn off Hollywood movies as the satanic work of sodomites and other god-hating liberals. So Rocky Mtn. Pictures and other small studios are making more low budget movies with conservative themes of Christian redemption in an attempt to bring morality back to America and return it to the hyper-religious Christian nation it once was (in their imaginations).
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Big Joe Sun, Sep 16, 2012 8:55:50pm |
re: #256 Mich-again
This thought crossed my mind this morning watching the backyard.
What if squirrels don't bury nuts just to hide them for later. Maybe they're planting trees. hmm
I know the squirrels here dig them up later. they do a good job of putting the lawn back down when they hide them but in the winter when they get the nuts to eat they leave the lawn pulled back. Little bastards.
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Lidane Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:08:27pm |
Report: Gun sales will soar if Obama re-elected huff.to/RWQ16J— Huffington Post (@HuffingtonPost) September 17, 2012
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Kragar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:14:56pm |
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Targetpractice Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:18:41pm |
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palomino Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:19:31pm |
re: #261 Lidane
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It happened before. So sadly I guess it makes sense that it would happen again.
I never quite understood the RW fanatics who think Obama's plan all along was to wait until his second term and then transform himself into Huey Newton. If he really wanted to destroy America, enslave white people, take all guns away, etc, why the hell would he wait for a 2nd term when there's a chance he won't get a 2nd term? No, if he was really the anti-Christ, we would have seen his horns by now.
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Lidane Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:22:34pm |
re: #262 Kragar
Is that before or after he seizes them all?
Before, clearly. Real Muricans will go out and buy tons more guns and ammo only to have the POTUS take them all away the next day.
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b_sharp Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:27:19pm |
re: #258 Big Joe
I know the squirrels here dig them up later. they do a good job of putting the lawn back down when they hide them but in the winter when they get the nuts to eat they leave the lawn pulled back. Little bastards.
Are you sure you don't have wild golfers living there?
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Lidane Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:27:43pm |
From the Unfortunate Typos department:
Osama bi Laden said after 9/11 "When people see a strong horse and a weak horse by nature they will like strong horse" USA v Islamists— ChuckGrassley (@ChuckGrassley) September 16, 2012
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dragonath Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:27:53pm |
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Kragar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:28:45pm |
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Gus Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:29:02pm |
re: #267 Lidane
From the Unfortunate Typos department:
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Someone needs to change his diapers.
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Lidane Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:39:51pm |
I never EVER thought I'd say: Clinton's composure, competence & humility at State make me want to see her POTUS one day:thebea.st/RclLe7— Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) September 17, 2012
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ozbloke Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:51:13pm |
re: #210 makeitstop
Part one by the numbers:
Budget $20 million
Box office $4,627,375I'm surprised they even started production on part 2.
Where do you get the 20 million from?
Box Office
Budget: $6,500,000 (estimated)
Opening Weekend: $1,686,347 (USA) (17 April 2011) (299 Screens)
Gross: $4,563,873 (USA) (15 May 2011)
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Kragar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:54:38pm |
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ozbloke Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:58:37pm |
re: #274 Kragar
Pretty much the entire cast of the first movie bailed.
In Part II?
I haven't seen part 1, nor the trailer.
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Kragar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 10:01:51pm |
re: #275 ozbloke
In Part II?
I haven't seen part 1, nor the trailer.
Never watched it, but been following the news in the film trades.
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Flavia Sun, Sep 16, 2012 10:17:40pm |
re: #5 Charles Johnson
Have you thought of making the program block anything spelled "cialis" with a SPACE AFTER the "s"? That was, it would block Cialis without blocking any word that has "cialis" in it. You might also do a space before as well.
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ozbloke Sun, Sep 16, 2012 10:20:23pm |
re: #277 Flavia
Have you thought of making the program block anything spelled "cialis" with a SPACE AFTER the "s"? That was, it would block Cialis without blocking any word that has "cialis" in it. You might also do a space before as well.
It won't help if the search word is the first or last word on a line.
A lot of languages use a '^' to signify the beginning of a word, and a '$' for the end.
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ozbloke Sun, Sep 16, 2012 10:29:46pm |
re: #277 Flavia
Have you thought of making the program block anything spelled "cialis" with a SPACE AFTER the "s"? That was, it would block Cialis without blocking any word that has "cialis" in it. You might also do a space before as well.
For example /^cialis$/ would match that word, but not socialist however it may not respect case sensitivity. So you could try /^[Cc][Ii][Aa][Ll][Ii][Ss]$/ which would match any letter in any case.
However you will still get arse holes who will substitute the letter 'l' with the numeral '1' or perhaps swap the i and a, yet our mind will still interpret the word correctly for the most part.
Regexing, can be difficult.
Felt the info may be instructive, your mileage may vary ;)
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sagehen Sun, Sep 16, 2012 10:47:19pm |
Are Cialis and Viagra chemically identical, or are there two drugs with the same effect?
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Kragar Sun, Sep 16, 2012 10:49:16pm |
re: #280 sagehen
Are Cialis and Viagra chemically identical, or are there two drugs with the same effect?
2 different substances.
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engineer cat Mon, Sep 17, 2012 12:18:29am |
Huffington Post
Report: Gun sales will soar if Obama re-elected huff.to/RWQ16J
toldja obama would do a good job of stimulating the economy
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engineer cat Mon, Sep 17, 2012 12:21:04am |
my correspondent in spain tells me that they pronounce 'mexico' there as 'metsico'. he was perplexed that my software gave the mexican style pronunciation of 'me-hi-co'
huh
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AK-47% Mon, Sep 17, 2012 12:32:58am |
re: #284 engineer cat
Huffington Post
Report: Gun sales will soar if Obama re-elected huff.to/RWQ16J
toldja obama would do a good job of stimulating the economy
we have a lot of ignorant people who believe tht Obama is after their guns. We have a lot of slightly less ignorant people who understand how much they can earn by letting people believe that Obama is after their guns.
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spiderx Mon, Sep 17, 2012 12:51:36am |
how come conservatives on the internet have gone so crazy over Obama? and how many of them are there?
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freetoken Mon, Sep 17, 2012 12:52:29am |
re: #286 Expand Your Ground
They are "clinging" to their guns, and bibles, just as candidate Obama, when he ventured into a candid appraisal, observed.
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spiderx Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:07:54am |
i've been reading conservative forums today. These people are really crazy. They actually believe Obama is evil and deliberately trying to destroy the country. They believe all kinds of bizarre stuff and they don't believe any of the polls. They think Romney is way ahead.
BTW..so does that clown Hugh Hewitt. i happened to listen to his show one day last week and he was saying the polls are all wrong, it's going to be a Romney landslide.
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sagehen Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:11:17am |
re: #285 engineer cat
my correspondent in spain tells me that they pronounce 'mexico' there as 'metsico'. he was perplexed that my software gave the mexican style pronunciation of 'me-hi-co'
huh
Ask him what he thinks a tortilla is. Then tell him he's wrong, and 400 million western hemisphere spanish-speakers will back you up on that.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:11:26am |
I see that Bart Ehrman is working his schtick successfully:
Bart Ehrman speaks to sold-out crowd on Jesus's existence
[...]
Ehrman, a self-professed cynic of the New Testament, said he doesn’t normally dispel the beliefs of atheists. But a growing group of mythicists, people who publicly deny the existence of Jesus, has caught his attention, he said.
“Mythicists are quite angry at what I’ve said and are attacking me mercilessly on the Internet,” he said. “They think I’m a terrible scholar and have no idea what I’m talking about.”
Ehrman aimed much of his lecture at the sector of atheists and agnostics who argue that there is no archeological evidence of Jesus and no written pagan sources from the first century that even document Jesus’ existence.
“It’s not that useful of an argument because we don’t really have archeological evidence for anyone who’s ever existed,” Ehrman said.
[...]
This is evidence of someone who is going flakey - when they start spewing wild claims that are clearly wrong.
We have plenty of archeological evidence of "important" people of the past. Right now the big archeological news in the UK is this:
Richard III dig: Hundreds visit Greyfriars site in Leicester
Genetic testing will be done on the remains to try and dispel any false positives. Perhaps Ehrman would like to claim that Richard III isn't "important"? Then what about digging up and identifying mummies of Egyptian pharaohs?
Ehrman has been acting increasingly erratic in his public proclamations. I wouldn't be shocked if he goes even farther.
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researchok Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:11:29am |
re: #283 freetoken
Great piece, favorited
The xylophone in first half is outstanding- same applies to the piano in the second half.
Who are they?
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researchok Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:19:34am |
re: #293 freetoken
No doubt about it- his claims will escalate.
Hew has a built in audience, he sells books to his believers or anyone who wants to be on the cutting edge, so to speak.
He's a lot like Erich von Däniken.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:24:50am |
re: #296 researchok
He;s a lot like Erich von Däniken.
Well, I wouldn't go that far.
But I get the impression that he is still haunted by his early fundamentalism. First in his academic career he makes a name for himself separating from said fundamentalism, and now he goes around to radio stations and lecture halls and sells himself as the one who is truly proving Jesus (of the Gospels) really did exist.
The problem he is demonstrating is trying too hard to sell books, and he does that by being quite coy in his interviews and to which audiences he addresses.
I don't blame anyone for trying to make money by marketing their expertise, and as he's a NT historian his source of income, outside of his teaching salary, is to sell books and lectures about the NT.
But his popular talks are hardly scholarly, as he demonstrates by his unmeasured statements.
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researchok Mon, Sep 17, 2012 1:31:34am |
re: #297 freetoken
Maybe the von Däniken reference was an over reach but here in the triangle he is a very polarizing figure.
His talks are very contentious and he plays on that.
Word is UNC-CH isn't too happy about his public lectures either, for the reasons you allude to.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:22:53am |
Sviridov's "It's Snowing" (I think that's the right translation):
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freetoken Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:37:17am |
I think I made a mistake - that last piece translates (courtesy of Google) as "Soul".
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wheat-dogg Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:40:53am |
re: #293 freetoken
All those essays by Julius Caesar, Seneca and Marcus Aurelius were planted by God to test our faith. Same with the statues. You know, like the fossils.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:55:16am |
re: #66 Cannadian Club Akbar
Please. Join in. I've seen downdings on many, many of my post and I'll think, I know him, I know her, him, her, who the hell are these other people?
This is a minus 3. Read the quote and know that 2 out of the 3 never post here. OMG!! They're like intertube ninjas!!!!
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And good morning honcos.
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:10:18am |
re: #293 freetoken
Those mummies could be anybody. Don't believe the names on the cartouches, man, they're part of the conspiracy. That's what they want you to think. They're not just going to leave them lying around, buried inside millions of tons of limestone.
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AK-47% Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:39:09am |
If your beliefs compell you to interpret your Holy Scriptures literally, then you mind will be open to whatever mental gymnastics and flying leaps of faith are necessary to preserve that view of the world.
And it helps if you have an echo chamber of like minds to support you and your persecution complex when all those elitist educated liberals sneer at you...
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freetoken Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:43:54am |
Well, for all you godless heathen out there, I'll leave you this morning with "Prayer of the Blind":
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:02:30am |
Drones to patrol skies over Republican convention
[Link: www2.tbo.com...]
Drones won't patrol Tampa during RNC, federal authorities say
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]
Heh.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:25:25am |
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BongCrodny Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:26:49am |
re: #306 Cannadian Club Akbar
Drones to patrol skies over Republican convention
[Link: www2.tbo.com...]Drones won't patrol Tampa during RNC, federal authorities say
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]Heh.
No, see, the drones were all at the Republican convention.
I'm sorry. It was staring me right in the face and I just couldn't resist.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:26:51am |
re: #306 Cannadian Club Akbar
Drones to patrol skies over Republican convention
[Link: www2.tbo.com...]Drones won't patrol Tampa during RNC, federal authorities say
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]Heh.
Had to secure the Strategic Tittybar Reserve on Del Mabry.
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:30:40am |
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:36:37am |
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Shropshire_Slasher Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:44:34am |
House eated car:
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:46:33am |
re: #312 Tommy's cone of shame
House eated car:
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
I'll give the driver credit for missing that orange post.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:49:11am |
re: #313 Cannadian Club Akbar
I'll give the driver credit for missing that orange post.
A kid I went to skool with stole his mom's car one night. Hit a house after going in between 2 trees. And if that wasn't good enough, he drove away from the scene, went to a boat ramp and let it roll into the water.
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BongCrodny Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:52:36am |
Yet another Darwin Award candidate:
Rapper tweets about driving drunk before fatal crash
An aspiring rapper sent tweets about driving drunk moments before he and his friends died in a car crash, police said.
According to CBS News, Erwin McKiness, who used the names Jew’elz and Inkyy sent out a tweet that said “Drunk af going 120 difting corners #F**kItYOLO.”
YOLO stands for “You Only Live Once.”
McKiness, despite the texts, was a passenger and not the driver.
After running a red light, the car crashed into a wall. McKiness had sent a final text saying ”Driving tweeting sipping the cup (expletive) yolo I’m turning it up.”
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CarolJ Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:53:06am |
re: #210 makeitstop
Sugar Mommy or Daddy or someone who needs a loss to write off? Or did they do it the way Lord of the Rings was done, the whole novel at once?
You know the funding for II wasn't Hollywood. With losses like that and no way to make them up, Two if it was ever even made would be a straight to video production.
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BongCrodny Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:55:09am |
re: #314 Cannadian Club Akbar
A kid I went to skool with stole his mom's car one night. Hit a house after going in between 2 trees. And if that wasn't good enough, he drove away from the scene, went to a boat ramp and let it roll into the water.
Back in our younger, stupid days (as opposed to our older, stupid days) a buddy of mine went to one of Maine's all-night bottle clubs. About four a.m., he left, tried to drive home -- about 30 miles -- and fell asleep behind the wheel. Woke up in a field with a huge boulder on one side of the car and a telephone pole on the other.
Lucky, lucky idiot.
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Shropshire_Slasher Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:59:33am |
The Kinki University invented a new tooth patch that could end tooth decay
[Link: www.france24.com...]
That's not the Kinki U I knew
/
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 17, 2012 5:04:29am |
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A Mom Anon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 5:09:10am |
One of my neighbors is one of the nicest people you'd ever want to meet. She's got two great kids,works for a chain of nursing homes,has a college degree and is a devout Catholic.She just organized a charity motorcycle ride to benefit Alzheimer's research(my husband and a couple of his friends rode in it) She is however badly misinformed about politics because her dad(also a nice guy,would do anything for a neighbor in need)is convinced Obama is a communist and he spends way too much time watching Fox news.She comes from a really close family,literally,her parents and siblings all live in a little cluster of houses right next door to mine on about 15 acres. So what her mom and dad think carries alot of weight.
Anyhow,her new thing is to post stuff on Facebook about how the government is forcing Catholic employers to fund abortion coverage. Does anyone here have a link or source that I can show her that she won't reject because it's a liberal site(like ThinkProgress,etc)? I'm not going to call her out on her page,I'm going to send her the info privately. She's smart,I think she'd be open to the truth. Maybe.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 5:10:31am |
NEW PORT RICHEY — The Pasco County Sheriff's Office named a third suspect Sunday who deputies say helped a mother and son beat a man with a baseball bat and hammer.
Vanessa Musson teamed up with 40-year-old Bobbie Jo Curtis and Curtis' 16-year-old son, Bryan, to attack a man Friday at Moon Lake Estates, the Sheriff's Office said.
Bobbie Jo Curtis had recently met the 44-year-old man on a dating website and moved into his home with her son.
[Link: www.tampabay.com...]
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 17, 2012 5:18:36am |
re: #321 A Mom Anon
One of my neighbors is one of the nicest people you'd ever want to meet. She's got two great kids,works for a chain of nursing homes,has a college degree and is a devout Catholic.She just organized a charity motorcycle ride to benefit Alzheimer's research(my husband and a couple of his friends rode in it) She is however badly misinformed about politics because her dad(also a nice guy,would do anything for a neighbor in need)is convinced Obama is a communist and he spends way too much time watching Fox news.She comes from a really close family,literally,her parents and siblings all live in a little cluster of houses right next door to mine on about 15 acres. So what her mom and dad think carries alot of weight.
Anyhow,her new thing is to post stuff on Facebook about how the government is forcing Catholic employers to fund abortion coverage. Does anyone here have a link or source that I can show her that she won't reject because it's a liberal site(like ThinkProgress,etc)? I'm not going to call her out on her page,I'm going to send her the info privately. She's smart,I think she'd be open to the truth. Maybe.
That's sort of tricky, because if you use only the definitions accepted by hard-core Catholics, they are being forced to do something they can convince themselves is seriously against their rules. The force, of course, is a schedule of fines. The fact that many Catholic institutions already provided such insurance is lost on them. So is the fact that Quakers are taxed to support drone strikes. To convince her you would have to prove that a large part of her hierarchy is arguing dishonestly. You're not likely to win this one.
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A Mom Anon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 5:36:03am |
re: #323 Decatur Deb
Yeah,I kinda thought that too. These are people who left their McCain/Palin signs from 2008 up until last winter,lol. I was just hoping I could find a non-partisan source to explain what the deal is to at least get her to think about what she's posting.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 17, 2012 5:45:31am |
re: #324 A Mom Anon
Yeah,I kinda thought that too. These are people who left their McCain/Palin signs from 2008 up until last winter,lol. I was just hoping I could find a non-partisan source to explain what the deal is to at least get her to think about what she's posting.
There are two very well respected (Jesuit, IIRC) magazines/websites that are quite sophisticated and lean liberal.
[Link: www.commonwealmagazine.org...]
and
[Link: www.americamagazine.org...]
If there is a good argument, it's in one of them.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 5:47:42am |
re: #325 Decatur Deb
Why are you trying to start a Catholic/Jesuit war?
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 17, 2012 5:48:33am |
re: #326 Cannadian Club Akbar
Why are you trying to start a Catholic/Jesuit war?
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After the battle you can loot the wounded of some cool rosaries.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 5:49:29am |
re: #327 Decatur Deb
After the battle you can loot the wounded of some cool rosaries.
You just can't wear them to skool.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 17, 2012 5:51:35am |
My favorite Catholic/Commie/Hippies:
[Link: www.catholicworker.org...]
Their worldview is almost IWW, but they hold to a very kosher Catholic theology. That means they are always in trouble with the bishops at the same time their founder is being promoted for sainthood.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:03:05am |
re: #328 Cannadian Club Akbar
You just can't wear them to skool.
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More seriously, they're easier to pray if they're in your pants pocket. That's where I keep my Anglican rosary.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:06:15am |
Reading your post, AMA, reminds me how the only good thing I can see about Rome's current direction is that the Episcopalian church is gaining a bunch of really good liberal Christians while Benedict builds the echo chamber he seems to think God wants.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:07:36am |
re: #330 William Barnett-Lewis
More seriously, they're easier to pray if they're in your pants pocket. That's where I keep my Anglican rosary.
Anglican rosary? So you pray from the right-side pocket.
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dragonath Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:09:26am |
From California, this probably apocryphal but genuinely lulzworthy news item:
Cameron Claimed Britain is United Against Romney
Said Weinstein: "I witnessed Prime Minister saying to a group of people, myself included, that Mitt Romney had that unique distinction of uniting all of England against him with his various remarks. On behalf of my love of England, I have to support the President who is anything but making faux-pas."
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:14:02am |
BBL. Gotta go get the car fixed.
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Shropshire_Slasher Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:18:47am |
This makes sense, however it will never happen.
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
Why? Can't cut down hysterical trees.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:20:00am |
re: #315 BongCrodny
Yet another Darwin Award candidate:
You Only Live Once, and you're idiocy just lost you that life! Here's your Darwin Award!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:21:03am |
re: #333 dragonath
From California, this probably apocryphal but genuinely lulzworthy news item:
More likely Harvey Weinstein is simply lying.
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Shropshire_Slasher Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:21:08am |
Somebody get me a cheesburger stat!
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
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Shropshire_Slasher Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:23:41am |
I tawt i taw a putty tat
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
Poor kitty
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:25:11am |
re: #340 Tommy's cone of shame
I tawt i taw a putty tat
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
Poor kitty
If both were on Jeopardy my money would be on the cat.
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Mocking Jay Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:27:33am |
GOP Congressman blows up at CNN host: ‘I don’t care what fact check says,’ Obama apologizes for America! thkpr.gs/PJJH6D
— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) September 17, 2012
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Eventual Carrion Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:29:04am |
re: #342 Mocking Jay
GOP Congressman blows up at CNN host: ‘I don’t care what fact check says,’ Obama apologizes for America! thkpr.gs/PJJH6D
— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) September 17, 2012
It's our lie and we're sticking to it!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:29:55am |
re: #340 Tommy's cone of shame
I tawt i taw a putty tat
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
Poor kitty
As I said yesterday, cats are not like small dogs. They do not like to be carried around like that. They are fundamentally more territorial and less social than small dogs are.
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darthstar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:37:04am |
re: #342 Mocking Jay
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Soledad O'Brien is quickly becoming one of the sexiest and most feared by Republicans (next to Rachel Maddow) women on News television.
And all she had to do to make that happen was start asking questions. They HATE when you ask questions.
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darthstar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:47:04am |
Ten tweet series by Frum...some highlights:
(2) The Romney campaign has a messaging problem because it has a policy problem.— davidfrum (@davidfrum) September 17, 2012
(4) How do you message: I'm doing away w Medicaid over the next 10 yrs, Medicare after that, to finance a cut in the top rate of tax to 28%?— davidfrum (@davidfrum) September 17, 2012
(5) I don't care if you hire the people who produce the ATT ads that make my wife cry, there's no lipsticking that pig.— davidfrum (@davidfrum) September 17, 2012
(7) Over course of campaign, Romney has changed from a pragmatic, capable manager into a dog-whistling culture warrior.— davidfrum (@davidfrum) September 17, 2012
(10) But voters do care about the q: what will this presidency do for me? And "dick you over" is not a winning answer— davidfrum (@davidfrum) September 17, 2012
Click on his profile and read them bottom to top...good stuff.
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Daniel Ballard Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:47:09am |
May I start our day with a sunrise that's just beautiful? Right now... Live
[Link: obs.astro.ucla.edu...]
Or I saved it...
Image: towercam.jpg
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darthstar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:48:36am |
re: #348 Daniel Ballard
May I start our day with a sunrise that's just beautiful? Right now... Live
[Link: obs.astro.ucla.edu...]Or I saved it...
Image: towercam.jpg
Very nice. How's things in the southland?
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darthstar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:52:42am |
Oops.
[Link: www.mediaite.com...]
Fox & Friends host Gretchen Carlson had to contend with a truly awkward moment Monday morning as she attempted to get through an interview with Max Rice, a man described as a recent college grad and former Obama supporter who is now switching his vote to Romney.
Rice kicked things off by greeting Carlson, a former pageant queen, with a “Hello, Miss USA.” Carlson corrected him, letting Rice know that she had, in fact, been voted “Miss America.”
“Miss Universe in my book,” he responded. Aw?
A little flattery will get you places...it takes a while for ditzy blonde to realize this guy might not hate the black guy after all...but how did they get this far? Can you just call up Fox and say, "I switched to Romney" and get a TV slot? Can it be that easy?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:56:15am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:00:26am |
re: #352 Cannadian Club Akbar
My gramdpa used to have me pull his finger. I don't recommend it.
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At his age, it would pull right off, huh!
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darthstar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:06:17am |
Today's Tom Tomorrow...one of his more pointed efforts.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:06:46am |
re: #353 sattv4u2
At his age, it would pull right off, huh!
He ran a crane that was used to build skyscrapers. No fucking way I could do that!
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darthstar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:07:55am |
re: #355 Cannadian Club Akbar
He ran a crane that was used to build skyscrapers. No fucking way I could do that!
I was asked if they could use mine to raise the Titanic.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:08:53am |
Benghazi emerges as key recruiting ground for al-Qaida, US intel analysts say
Counterterrorism experts inside and outside the U.S. government argue that it is not an exaggeration to suggest that the region around Benghazi has become a crucial wellspring for al-Qaida that rivals even its historic breeding ground -- Saudi Arabia.
"For more than two decades, a slice of eastern Libya near Benghazi, dominated by conservative bastions like the town of Derna, has served as a prolific incubator for local extremists, a surprising number of whom have surfaced as high-profile foreign combatants in conflicts ranging from Afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya, Iraq and now Syria," he said.
"Several of these combatants have taken leading roles in front-line paramilitary organizations, including al-Qaida," Kohlmann added.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:10:54am |
re: #356 darthstar
I was asked if they could use mine to raise the Titanic.
did you ever know this about Robert Ballard?
[Link: news.nationalgeographic.com...]
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:10:59am |
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:11:23am |
Ryan: Specifics to Romney's tax plan will be sorted out by Congress tpm.ly/OzZnKU— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) September 17, 2012
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dragonath Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:13:52am |
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:14:47am |
From Saturday: I talked to Values Voters' "former terrorist" about the holes in his story. He clammed up: bit.ly/RZK1yp— Tim Murphy (@timothypmurphy) September 17, 2012
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:14:51am |
re: #357 Killgore Trout
Benghazi emerges as key recruiting ground for al-Qaida, US intel analysts say
Islamism developed a foothold in the region, and the Libyan Civil War provided the military experience needed to turn Islamists into real threats. It reminds me of the Communist "Sparticist" and "Freicorps" group after WWI.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:17:38am |
re: #360 Lidane
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That's reasonable. Trying to just push a tax plan through Congress seldom works, the lobbyists want their say, even if only to show their employers how relevant they. Moreover, the makeup of Congress will be crucial to what kind of bargain can be struck
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gwangung Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:18:46am |
re: #364 Dark_Falcon
That's reasonable. Trying to just push a tax plan through Congress seldom works, the lobbyists want their say, even if only to show their employers how relevant they. Moreover, the makeup of Congress will be crucial to what kind of bargain can be struck
However, if a Democratic candidate said this, you'd say that was NOT reasonable.
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:19:50am |
re: #364 Dark_Falcon
That's reasonable.
Because people are going to vote for a presidential campaign without knowing what they're going to do once in office or how it will affect them. Really.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:20:26am |
re: #365 gwangung
However, if a Democratic candidate said this, you'd say that was NOT reasonable.
No, I'd be somewhat understanding. I'd likely 'concern troll' a bit, but I wouldn't just start saying that waiting was unreasonable.
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:21:10am |
no hurry; it's almost Oct; MT @peterhambycnn "Voters recognize that Gov. Romney has a plan, but they want more details," one adviser says— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) September 17, 2012
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:21:53am |
re: #366 Lidane
Because people are going to vote for a presidential campaign without knowing what they're going to do once in office or how it will affect them. Really.
And making promises you aren't sure you can keep is the way to ruin.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:22:55am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:23:29am |
re: #363 Dark_Falcon
Islamism developed a foothold in the region, and the Libyan Civil War provided the military experience needed to turn Islamists into real threats. It reminds me of the Communist "Sparticist" and "Freicorps" group after WWI.
It seems it was a bad choice for an ambassador to visit the area with little or no security. It seems to have been a well known al qaeda hub for quite some time.
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:24:29am |
re: #369 Dark_Falcon
And making promises you aren't sure you can keep is the way to ruin.
Can you explain how Romney is going to keep his promise of tripling defense spending, keeping the proportion of taxes paid by upper income earners the same as it is now, lowering taxes on the middle class (which means, therefore, lowering them on the upper income earners as well) and reducing the deficit?
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makeitstop Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:24:31am |
re: #364 Dark_Falcon
That's reasonable. Trying to just push a tax plan through Congress seldom works, the lobbyists want their say, even if only to show their employers how relevant they. Moreover, the makeup of Congress will be crucial to what kind of bargain can be struck
No, it isn't.
They're kicking the can down the road, avoiding any specificity whatsoever.
If they furnished a baseline or any type of detail, we'd know where Congress would be working from. As it stands, no one knows and they won't tell us.
More 'trust us.' Nope. Not happening.
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A Mom Anon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:24:58am |
re: #367 Dark_Falcon
Yes,but Dark,if what they have planned policywise was so awesome and going to help the country do better then why not lay out specifics? This Secret Squirrel nonsense leads people to think either a)they've got nothing or b)what they have is pretty heinous and is a gift to their rich buddies. Money matters are up to Congress,but as President you sure as hell can tell people what you think would work and what you'd like to see Congress put into place,along with a basic explanation of just how your plan would work.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:25:18am |
re: #370 sattv4u2
Nothing to see here
Move along
WApo gives Susan Rice 2 Pinocchio's
Was the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya planned?
The administration obviously wants to play down the possibility of a planned attack because that would raise broader questions about whether U.S. intelligence and embassy security in Libya were adequate. But Rice’s comments strain credulity, especially after Libya’s president declared without a doubt that the attack was planned.
We also acknowledge being suspicious when an official begins by citing “the best information we have to date” because that suggests other information, such as that gathered by the Libyans, is not being given the same weight. (Rice said FBI agents were not even in Libya yet.) Elsewhere in the interview, Rice used carefully hedged language — “We do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated” — that suggests the administration is straining to avoid an obvious conclusion.
Given that this is a fast-moving story with confusion about basic facts, we are going to start out relatively light on the Pinocchios. We may adjust depending on the information that emerges in the coming weeks, but at the moment the publicly available evidence stands in stark contrast to Rice’s talking points.
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:25:25am |
re: #371 Killgore Trout
It seems it was a bad choice for an ambassador to visit the area with little or no security. It seems to have been a well known al qaeda hub for quite some time.
Man, Killgore, they could really use your advice and wisdom over at State. They're just running around like a bunch of incompetents, pissing off Bibi and getting ambassadors killed. I know that it's probably harvest time in the greenhouse, but can't you spare just a bit of time to go and solve their problems for them? I'm sure everyone would appreciate it.
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:26:36am |
re: #369 Dark_Falcon
And making promises you aren't sure you can keep is the way to ruin.
Romney HQ should have thought of that months ago. Instead, they're running on vague rhetoric and dog whistling.
If Mitt Romney is such a smart business man, he knows that an investor pitch is only as good as the detailed business plan supporting it. You have to have numbers, you have to show your work, and have specific answers for people. You can't just throw out a suggestion and hope that people will sign on out of the kindness of their hearts.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:27:28am |
Maybe Romney and Ryan should run on those two very specific planks of HOPE and CHANGE!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:29:13am |
Iran: Saboteurs cut power lines to underground nuclear site
Explosives were used to cut power lines from city of Qom to Fordow underground uranium enrichment plant last month, Iranian nuclear chief claims; says "terrorists, saboteurs" have infiltrated UN nuclear watchdog.
Interesting.
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:29:16am |
re: #378 Dark_Falcon
No, I'm not an economist.
Okay, let's tackle an easy one. Romney said this:
What I can promise you is this -- when you get out of college, if I'm president you'll have a job.
What do you think of that promise?
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makeitstop Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:29:43am |
re: #379 sattv4u2
Maybe Romney and Ryan should run on those two very specific planks of HOPE and CHANGE!
Even that, mis-represented as it is, is more specific than R&R are being.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:30:29am |
re: #381 Obdicut
Okay, let's tackle an easy one. Romney said this:
What do you think of that promise?
A general statement of intent, but one that cannot be taken as an absolute.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:31:07am |
re: #380 Killgore Trout
Iran: Saboteurs cut power lines to underground nuclear site
Interesting.
"terrorists, saboteurs" have infiltrated UN nuclear watchdog.
Whats interesting is that he puts the blame there instead of the usual "Zionist plotters"
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:32:37am |
re: #383 Dark_Falcon
A general statement of intent, but one that cannot be taken as an absolute.
But that's not what it is, is it, Dark? It is stated as an absolute, and he calls it a promise.
What do you feel about Romney attacking Obama for defense cuts that didn't happen, or accusing him of a gigantic peacetime spending binge? Does it bug you at all that Romney thought that we weren't at war? Military stuff just seems to have a habit of slipping out of his mind, like he really couldn't give a shit about it.
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makeitstop Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:32:43am |
re: #383 Dark_Falcon
A general statement of intent, but one that cannot be taken as an absolute.
It sounds more like a guarantee than a 'general statement of intent.'
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:32:49am |
re: #383 Dark_Falcon
A general statement of intent, but one that cannot be taken as an absolute.
Or, more accurately, it's bullshit.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:34:51am |
re: #381 Obdicut
Okay, let's tackle an easy one. Romney said this:
What do you think of that promise?
Same as "if we pass the stimulus unemployment will be below 6%"
Both are goals, both are predictions, both based on models
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:35:09am |
re: #384 sattv4u2
"terrorists, saboteurs" have infiltrated UN nuclear watchdog.
Whats interesting is that he puts the blame there instead of the usual "Zionist plotters"
What I find interesting is that if the story's true the Israelis (or whoever) can not only get into the site but they can also get explosives in there. Pretty impressive.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:38:07am |
re: #389 Killgore Trout
What I find interesting is that if the story's true the Israelis (or whoever) can not only get into the site but they can also get explosives in there. Pretty impressive.
Don't jump the gun
Cutting power lines that feed the site is a far cry from getting into the site.
Also, I'm not sure what affect it would have if the intent was to sabotage Tehran's atomic advances. I'm sure a site of that nature even if only used for "peaceful purposes" must have backup power capabilities
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Eventual Carrion Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:38:18am |
re: #388 sattv4u2
Same as "if we pass the stimulus unemployment will be below 6%"
Both are goals, both are predictions, both based on models
Can you link to the exact statement he made for this? Not an interpretation of it but the word for word statement he made? Thx
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:39:33am |
re: #381 Obdicut
Okay, let's tackle an easy one. Romney said this:
What I can promise you is this -- when you get out of college, if I'm president you'll have a job.
What do you think of that promise?
What I would assume is that he intends to pass an executive order mandating that nobody can graduate college while he is in office.
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:39:52am |
re: #388 sattv4u2
Same as "if we pass the stimulus unemployment will be below 6%"
Both are goals, both are predictions, both based on models
Except Obama didn't say that. What you put in quotes wasn't said, and it's pretty dishonest of you to represent it as if it were.
A prediction was made, not a promise.
Since you seem confused about the difference, let's make a simple analogy for you.
If I promise to pay you back a $1,000 after you loaned it to me by the next month, and then I fail to do so, I've broken a promise.
if I tell you I'll be able to pay you back next month since I'm expecting to be able to get a job by using the money to buy a sweet suit and some elocution lessons, but then I don't get hired, I've certainly disappointed you, and you still don't have the $1,000, but there could a reason why that happened, and I didn't break a promise.
In the case of the stimulus, it was much too small and comprised far too much of tax cuts, put in there at the insistence of the GOP. The models underestimated the severity of the crisis. You can certainly call it a failure of Obama's that their prediction was off, and a bigger failure of the GOP's that they sabotaged the stimulus to such a great degree based on their new Ayn Rand style economics.
The statement by Romney, on the other hand, is just obvious bullshit. It is not something in the power of a president to ever promise, and it's rather obvious that that's the case.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:40:41am |
re: #390 sattv4u2
Don't jump the gun
Cutting power lines that feed the site is a far cry from getting into the site.
Also, I'm not sure what affect it would have if the intent was to sabotage Tehran's atomic advances. I'm sure a site of that nature even if only used for "peaceful purposes" must have backup power capabilities
I would guess the purpose of cutting the power is to damage the centifuges if they were running at the time. It might have been a test run to see how the facility reacts, maybe helps to locate the backup generators too.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:40:58am |
re: #391 RayFerd
Can you link to the exact statement he made for this? Not an interpretation of it but the word for word statement he made? Thx
[Link: otrans.3cdn.net...]
page 4 from the report
I'll look later for the quote from one of his pressers
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:41:41am |
re: #389 Killgore Trout
What I find interesting is that if the story's true the Israelis (or whoever) can not only get into the site but they can also get explosives in there. Pretty impressive.
Israel is impressive when doing stuff.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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makeitstop Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:41:47am |
Pretty good analysis from Josh Marshall this morning...
...that leaves us with the new demand that Romney finally get specific with his various policy proposals and run the sort of Movement Conservative campaign the Ryan pick seemed to foreshadow. Again, not easy. Romney hasn’t been cagey about nearly all his policy proposals by accident. Whatever their policy merits they’re unpopular. His tax plans call for dramatic tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and substantial tax increases for the middle class. That’s a very hard sell in a system in which middle income people still get to vote. The initial Bush tax cuts were designed to give everyone tax cuts, albeit leaving the most generous ones at the top. That was smart politics. Cutting at the top while you have tax increases for the vast majority of voters is a sure loser.
Turning Medicare into a voucher program? Not popular.
Republicans can say Obama represents socialism and a slow descent into the awfulness of the German welfare state until they’re blue in the face. But voters get that Obama is pushing a basically pragmatic approach to taxes and spending. Polling has always shown this. His approach to social insurance programs is more popular as is his support for letting the Bush tax cuts expire for upper income earners. A campaign focused on actual policy details would only drive this point home. Don’t take my word for it — listen to the Romney campaign itself. The refusal to offer any detailed policy proposals speaks for itself.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:42:20am |
Good morning lizards!
I have one less rabbit to worry about, my dogs killed it yesterday afternoon.
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:42:55am |
re: #395 sattv4u2
How about you don't come back until you find Obama saying it?
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:45:15am |
re: #399 Obdicut
How about you don't come back until you find Obama saying it?
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Whats that the kids say nowadays
Oh yeah
You're not the boss of me
What arrogance!
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:45:27am |
Here's the link to the online fundraising site for the family of Sean Smith, one of the Americans killed in the attack on the consulate.
[Link: www.youcaring.com...]
I will post other fundraisers as I find them.
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Mich-again Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:45:50am |
re: #380 Killgore Trout
Iran: Saboteurs cut power lines to underground nuclear site
Interesting.
I bet the Mullahs really hate it when the other guy doesn't fight fair, and resorts to clandestine activities such as these. What happened to the good old days of war? /
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:46:34am |
re: #400 sattv4u2
Curses, you didn't fall for the logical trap. Back to the plan with the five-assed monkey instead.
Anyway, do you get that your supposed quote was fabricated?
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:47:13am |
re: #394 Killgore Trout
I would guess the purpose of cutting the power is to damage the centifuges if they were running at the time. It might have been a test run to see how the facility reacts, maybe helps to locate the backup generators too.
Could be. But any UPS system (uninterrupted power supply) worth it's weight, there wouldn't even be a glitch between shore power and battery/ generator
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makeitstop Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:48:18am |
re: #403 Obdicut
Curses, you didn't fall for the logical trap. Back to the plan with the five-assed monkey instead.
Anyway, do you get that your supposed quote was fabricated?
The Facts
Interestingly, the information to disprove this claim exists on the Romney campaign Web site. Far from being anything that Obama said, the Romney campaign acknowledges that this 8 percent figure comes from a staff-written projection issued Jan. 9, 2009 — before Obama had taken the oath of office. Of course, the campaign still spins it as a negative.
Wait, the Romney campaign made this up?
They never do that.
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:50:50am |
MT @submedina: Author ofNewsweek's "Muslim Rage" cover: Anders Breivik "had no other choice but to use violence" thkpr.gs/PK3keK"— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) September 17, 2012
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Mich-again Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:51:02am |
re: #404 sattv4u2
Could be. But any UPS system (uninterrupted power supply) worth it's weight, there wouldn't even be a glitch between shore power and battery/ generator
Maybe the location will show a heat profile once the backup generators start up and that was the point behind the power interruption.
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:51:46am |
re: #406 Lidane
When did Newsweek go so insane? I remember it used to be just boring, not nuts.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:52:45am |
re: #407 Mich-again
Maybe the location will show a heat profile once the backup generators start up and that was the point behind the power interruption.
Perhaps, but like the facility those are most likely way underground. And iirc, they already pretty much know where the facility is, just not exactly what is going on in it
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:52:45am |
re: #408 Obdicut
When did Newsweek go so insane? I remember it used to be just boring, not nuts.
When they needed to sell magazines in an election year.
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kirkspencer Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:52:47am |
re: #395 sattv4u2
[Link: otrans.3cdn.net...]
page 4 from the report
I'll look later for the quote from one of his pressers
It doesn't say what you say it says. Here, let me quote it. And as a bonus I'll post the rest of the paragraph that happens on page 5.
The table shows that we expect the plan to more than meet the goal of creating or saving 3 million jobs by 2010Q4. There are two important points to note, however:
First, the likely scale of employment loss is extremely large. The U.S. economy has already lost nearly 2.6 million jobs since the business cycle peak in December 2007. In the absence of stimulus, the economy could lose another 3 to 4 million more. Thus, we are working to counter a potential total job loss of at least 5 million. As Figure 1 shows, even with the large prototypical package, the unemployment rate in 2010Q4 is predicted to be approximately 7.0%, which is well below the approximately 8.8% that would result in the absence of a plan.
Second, as emphasized above, there is considerable uncertainty in our estimates: both the impact of the package on GDP and the relationship between higher GDP and job creation are hard to estimate precisely. In light of the substantial quarter-to-quarter variation in the estimates of job creation, we believe a reasonable range for 2010Q4 is 3.3 to 4.1 million jobs created.
Not 6.7%, 7%.
Not a promise but rather an estimation, a prediction which includes an open statement of uncertainty.
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Mich-again Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:52:54am |
re: #408 Obdicut
When did Newsweek go so insane? I remember it used to be just boring, not nuts.
Chasing the audience maybe? As people get crazier they look for crazier stuff to read.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:53:20am |
re: #407 Mich-again
Maybe the location will show a heat profile once the backup generators start up and that was the point behind the power interruption.
This makes sense. Could also be one of the last bits of intel needed before a bombing run.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:53:51am |
re: #262 Kragar
Is that before or after he seizes them all?
Job creation - Obama style. Increased sales going into and after the election, plus needing to hire more gun seizers when the moment comes.
/
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:54:26am |
The cover photo isn't even the most offensive part of Newsweek's story on "Muslim Rage" thkpr.gs/PK3keK— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) September 17, 2012
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:55:01am |
Iran will pursue makers of anti-Islam film: vice-president
Are they coming out to California to pick him up?
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:55:30am |
re: #417 NJDhockeyfan
Iran will pursue makers of anti-Islam film: vice-president
Are they coming out to California to pick him up?
They don't have too
The FBI already did!!
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:55:44am |
Right-Wing blogs claim murdered ambassador was gay and victim of Obama negligence huff.to/RZBPKl— Huffington Post (@HuffingtonPost) September 17, 2012
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Eventual Carrion Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:56:47am |
re: #395 sattv4u2
[Link: otrans.3cdn.net...]
page 4 from the report
I'll look later for the quote from one of his pressers
As stated on page 5:
"Second, as emphasized above, there is considerable uncertainty in our estimates"
Doesn't sound like a promise. Sounds like a projection that is at the whim of many other factors.
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Mich-again Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:59:38am |
re: #413 Cannadian Club Akbar
This makes sense. Could also be one of the last bits of intel needed before a bombing run.
The generators might be operating deep in the ground, but somewhere in the area there has to be an a fresh air intake and an exhaust stack discharging the heat and products of combustion.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:00:14am |
re: #420 RayFerd
As stated on page 5:
"Second, as emphasized above, there is considerable uncertainty in our estimates"Doesn't sound like a promise. Sounds like a projection that is at the whim of many other factors.
Which was my point in #388
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:00:24am |
Morning.
A. Ayaan Hirsi Ali has jumped the shark.
B. Max Blumenthal is still an asshole.
C. Newsweek still sucks.
D. The Salafist protesters are a bunch of loons.
I'm sure there's more here.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:00:57am |
re: #421 Mich-again
The generators might be operating deep in the ground, but somewhere in the area there has to be an a fresh air intake and an exhaust stack discharging the heat and products of combustion.
Again, all that tells us is that there is a facility there, which is already known
The unknown is what's going on in it
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:01:49am |
re: #423 Gus
Morning.
A. Ayaan Hirsi Ali has jumped the shark.
B. Max Blumenthal is still an asshole.
C. Newsweek still sucks.
D. The Salafist protesters are a bunch of loons.I'm sure there's more here.
E. I can't have coffee this morning because of a medical test I have this afternoon
F. I'm fucking cranky because of E.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:01:57am |
re: #417 NJDhockeyfan
Iran will pursue makers of anti-Islam film: vice-president
Are they coming out to California to pick him up?
The Iranians have some assets in the area.
LAPD: ‘Active’ Terror Plots Linked To Iran, Hezbollah, Other Groups
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:05:19am |
re: #424 sattv4u2
Again, all that tells us is that there is a facility there, which is already known
The unknown is what's going on in it
But I think taking our the generators would be used just before an attack. Makes sense.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:05:35am |
re: #426 Killgore Trout
The Iranians have some assets in the area.
LAPD: ‘Active’ Terror Plots Linked To Iran, Hezbollah, Other Groups
Not possible! No one has overreacted over all of this yet.
//
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:06:04am |
re: #425 sattv4u2
E. I can't have coffee this morning because of a medical test I have this afternoon
F. I'm fucking cranky because of E.
Obama done it.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:07:26am |
Outrage! Fire Panetta while we're at it! //
RT @peterbakernyt: Panetta in @foreignpolicy intvu compares Middle East demonstrations to "a Ku Klux Klan ... m.tmi.me/x1xlR— jmartpolitico (@jmartpolitico) September 17, 2012
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:07:51am |
re: #427 Cannadian Club Akbar
But I think taking our the generators would be used just before an attack. Makes sense.
Once they destroy the shield generators the Imperial assault troops can land and go right in.
/
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:08:09am |
re: #427 Cannadian Club Akbar
But I think taking our the generators would be used just before an attack. Makes sense.
The generator works independent of shore power. A UPS system senses when a facility loses shore power, switches the facilities power to a bank of batteries (that are constantly charging while shore power is available) the batteries work until the generator cranks up and takes over (usually within 5 minutes)
As long as you have diesel fuel you can run on generator indefinitley. It even charges the batteries just in case
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darthstar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:08:53am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:09:08am |
re: #423 Gus
Morning.
A. Ayaan Hirsi Ali has jumped the shark.
B. Max Blumenthal is still an asshole.
C. Newsweek still sucks.
D. The Salafist protesters are a bunch of loons.I'm sure there's more here.
I was just reading Ayaan Hirsi Ali's latest.
Islamists’ Last Stand
Once again the streets of the Arab world are burning with false outrage. But we must hold our heads up high. Ayaan Hirsi Ali on how she survived Muslim rage—and how we can end it.
I don;t think she's jumped the shark. She's always been a little too over the top to be a constructive voice anyways. In fact it seems she's toned down a bit.
But, she's not necessarily incorrect.
If the U.S. follows the example of Europe over the last two decades, it will bend over backward to avoid further offense. And that would be a grave mistake—for the West no less than for those Muslims struggling to build a brighter future.
I can't find fault with that.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:09:33am |
re: #429 Gus
Obama done it.
//
Nahh
I think he's more pf a StarBucks man
Me ,, corner gas station ,,, one pot burner in the back ,,, powdered creamer (which I don't use)
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:11:15am |
re: #409 sattv4u2
Perhaps, but like the facility those are most likely way underground. And iirc, they already pretty much know where the facility is, just not exactly what is going on in it
Even so, their backup power may not be enough to run all of their systems for an extended period of time. Hence while the centrifuges may not simply shut down due to lack of power, the Iranians would still need to shut them down properly to conserve power.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:11:18am |
FP: It was shocking though, wasn't it, to see the black flag of al Qaeda flying at the U.S. embassy in Tunis today?
PANETTA: Yes. They're still -- they will still try to do that. Just like the Taliban in Afghanistan makes use of insider attacks, makes use of IEDs, largely speaks to their inability to regain any of the territory that they've lost. So they resort to those tactics. And the same thing is true for al Qaeda, they're going to resort to these kinds of tactics, because in many ways I think they have lost their voice in the Middle East. And one demonstration of extremists, any more than a Ku Klux Klan demonstration in the United States, is not necessarily reflective of what the rest of the country feels.
Sounds about right.
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Mich-again Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:11:36am |
re: #424 sattv4u2
Again, all that tells us is that there is a facility there, which is already known
The unknown is what's going on in it
Once politicians determine a site is a potential target, the object for the military is to figure out how to F it up as much as possible when the order comes.
I think if the Iranians actually wanted to preserve this place for long, they would have let inspectors in by now. By keeping it a mystery, they almost assure its destruction.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:13:33am |
'Non-Libyan link' to riot that killed ambassador Chris Stevens
THE attack that killed the US ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, was carried out by members of an extreme Islamic militia in contact with an al-Qa'ida organisation based outside the country, the de facto head of state says.
A Benghazi militia, Ansar al-Sharia, had communications with al-Qa'ida in the Islamic Maghreb last Tuesday in which they discussed an assault on the US consulate that night, said Mohammed Magarief, the president of Libya's newly elected national congress.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:14:03am |
re: #437 Dark_Falcon
Even so, their backup power may not be enough to run all of their systems for an extended period of time. Hence while the centrifuges may not simply shut down due to lack of power, the Iranians would still need to shut them down properly to conserve power.
Not at all
What you do in a situation like that is shut down all non critical devices. Lights, A/C in non critical areas, anything else that draws current that's not essential to the centrifuges
As stated, as long as they have diesel they can run forever
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:14:25am |
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Mich-again Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:15:57am |
re: #441 sattv4u2
As stated, as long as they have diesel they can run forever
Assuming there is a steady supply of fresh air for the motors to breathe.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:16:21am |
re: #436 Gus
She said this? "represent the mainstream of contemporary Islam"
I balked at that one too but here's the context...
The Muslim men and women (and yes, there are plenty of women) who support—whether actively or passively—the idea that blasphemers deserve to suffer punishment are not a fringe group. On the contrary, they represent the mainstream of contemporary Islam. Of course, there are many Muslims and ex-Muslims, in Libya, Egypt, and elsewhere, who unambiguously condemn not only the murders and riots, as well as the idea that dissenters from this mainstream should be punished. But they are marginalized and all too often indirectly held responsible for the very provocation. In the age of globalization and mass immigration, such intolerance has crossed borders and become the defining characteristic of Islam.
She is talking about Muslims in predominantly Muslim countries. Most of these countries (even in American liberated countries like Iraq, Afghanistan) Sharia is enshrined in their constitution along with blasphemy laws. In the Muslim world there is a decent amount of support for blasphemy laws.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:17:36am |
re: #434 Killgore Trout
I was just reading Ayaan Hirsi Ali's latest.
Islamists’ Last StandI don;t think she's jumped the shark. She's always been a little too over the top to be a constructive voice anyways. In fact it seems she's toned down a bit.
But, she's not necessarily incorrect.I can't find fault with that.
Nor I. Should was brutalized fairly badly when she was younger and the people who brutalized her said they did it in the name of Islam. I do expect nor require a person so mistreated to be reasonable about the thing they feel mistreated them. That does not mean I may not favor taking action against them, but ordering someone neutralized (which should not be read as 'killed') is not the same thing as faulting them.
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darthstar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:17:53am |
Ha!
Even if you don't look at the numbers, actually! RT @ezraklein: If you look at the numbers, the Romney campaign is in serious trouble— Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) September 17, 2012
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:18:22am |
re: #384 sattv4u2
"terrorists, saboteurs" have infiltrated UN nuclear watchdog.
Whats interesting is that he puts the blame there instead of the usual "Zionist plotters"
PressTV has the Zionists pegged!
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:18:30am |
re: #442 Lidane
She jumped the shark ages ago:
Time out. What's the context here. She's saying HE says that he had no choice but to use violence"
"He says very clearly that it was the advocates of silence. Because all outlets to express his views were censored, he says, he had no other choice but to use violence."
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makeitstop Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:18:45am |
Fox & Friends get punked. Heh.
Carlson tried throughout the interview to steer Rice back to the stagnant unemployment rate and weak job market that has purportedly prompted young Obama supporters to abandon the president. It proved to be a futile effort, as Rice responded with a series of incoherent non-sequiturs about both presidential candidates.
Why did he support Obama four years ago?
“Oh, I was a huge Obama supporter in 2008, I met him in the third grade,” Rice said while taking a drink from a white cup. “I met him when I was little.”
And why is he now supporting Romney?
“Why I am supporting Mitt Romney? It’s actually a funny story,” Rice said as a visibly uncomfortable Carlson awaited his response. “I lost a basketball game to a friend of mine.”
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Mr. Crankypants Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:19:09am |
Morning all. Politico has an interesting article on the complete mess that is the Romney campaign.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:19:59am |
re: #444 Killgore Trout
I balked at that one too but here's the context...
She is talking about Muslims in predominantly Muslim countries. Most of these countries (even in American liberated countries like Iraq, Afghanistan) Sharia is enshrined in their constitution along with blasphemy laws. In the Muslim world there is a decent amount of support for blasphemy laws.
Yeah. I'm seeing a lot of cherry picking all over the place. Even Panetta was taken out of context. I wonder if they feel outraged over him comparing the militant protesters to the KKK?
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:21:04am |
Posted without comment:
Hey @kimkardashian--I hear you are undecided in the election. I can explain why you should vote for @mittromney.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 17, 2012
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:22:14am |
Fox has no memory of any "successful terror attacks since 9-11" bit.ly/RgDkcX #p2— Media Matters (@mmfa) September 17, 2012
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:23:14am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:23:23am |
re: #448 Gus
Time out. What's the context here. She's saying HE says that he had no choice but to use violence"
"He says very clearly that it was the advocates of silence. Because all outlets to express his views were censored, he says, he had no other choice but to use violence."
Yeah, It's Think Progress so not surprising they are misrepresenting the context. However, Ayaan has said a lot of over the top stuff in the past, she's unfortunately not much of a role model for the rest of us. But she has her own thing going on. She's often too bitter for my taste but I do admire her courage.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:24:01am |
re: #454 sattv4u2
Time out
Thats Gus's 1st time out of the half.
He has two remaining!
I'm getting close to the RED LINE! Outrage!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:24:57am |
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:25:18am |
re: #455 Killgore Trout
Yeah, It's Think Progress so not surprising they are misrepresenting the context. However, Ayaan has said a lot of over the top stuff in the past, she's unfortunately not much of a role model for the rest of us. But she has her own thing going on. She's often too bitter for my taste but I do admire her courage.
Religious extremism should be called out regardless of denomination. Right Wing Watch spends all day calling out right-wing Christian extremism. Islamic extremism is not exempt.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:26:10am |
So the week begins with more rage...
New protests erupt over Prophet Mohammad film
(Reuters) - Protesters in Afghanistan and Indonesia burnt U.S. flags and chanted "Death to America" on Monday in renewed demonstrations over a film mocking the Prophet Mohammad that has unleashed a wave of anti-Western sentiment in the Muslim and Arab world.
Indonesian police fired teargas and water cannon to disperse hundreds of demonstrators who massed outside the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta, capital of the most populous Muslim nation.
In Kabul, thousands of protesters took to the streets, setting fire to cars and shops and throwing stones at police.
"We will defend our prophet until we have blood across our bodies. We will not let anyone insult him," said one protester in the Afghan capital. "Americans will pay for their dishonor."
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:26:21am |
re: #458 Gus
Religious extremism should be called out regardless of denomination. Right Wing Watch spends all day calling out right-wing Christian extremism. Islamic extremism is not exempt.
Or Amish
[Link: world-news.newsvine.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:28:06am |
re: #457 sattv4u2
CHALLENGE FLAG THROWN!!
"Sattv4u2 is challenging the ruling that his side of the field should be narrowed to make room for Killgore's autumn garden!"
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:30:16am |
re: #461 Dark_Falcon
"Sattv4u2 is challenging the ruling that his side of the field should be narrowed to make room for Killgore's autumn garden!"
"After further review, the video evidence clearly shows Sattv4u2 using chemical agents to keep his side of the field clear of Kilgore's Autumn Garden, otherwise known as WEEDS. Sattv4u2 will not be charged a timeout"
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:30:38am |
re: #459 NJDhockeyfan
So the week begins with more rage...
"We love Mohammad so much that we set the cars and shops of our fellow Afghans on fire for something we know they didn't do! DERP!"
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:30:38am |
Dinesh D'Souza says Obama is "actively supporting" attacks by "radical Muslims" against America bit.ly/S3vVfB— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 17, 2012
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Mr. Crankypants Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:31:58am |
D'Souza needs to go back to writing marches. Oh wait, wrong Souza..never mind.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:33:37am |
re: #463 Dark_Falcon
"We love Mohammad so much that we set the cars and shops of our fellow Afghans on fire for something we know they didn't do! DERP!"
This gets even dumber when you remember that Mohammad was a traveling merchant by trade.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:34:27am |
In the end. These riots and murders were caused by Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:35:04am |
re: #468 Gus
In the end. These riots and murders were caused by Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
//
Why
Did she make a movie!?!
/
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Mocking Jay Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:36:17am |
Fox and Friends brings on disillusioned young former Obama supporter, turns out to be stand up comedian who mocks them. 2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/fox-an…
— Andrew Kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) September 17, 2012
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:41:01am |
re: #462 sattv4u2
"After further review, the video evidence clearly shows Sattv4u2 using chemical agents to keep his side of the field clear of Kilgore's Autumn Garden, otherwise known as WEEDS. Sattv4u2 will not be charged a timeout"
"Killgore has set forth his Special Power: Sattv4u2's home and his team's facilities shall be subject to a biblical plague of frogs!"
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:42:45am |
BTW, I do kind of object to these movies, cartoons and books as "disgusting", "Insulting", "hurtful" etc. They are all boring, dull and mundane. From Rushdie's unreadable tome to the simplistic Danish cartoons. There is nothing outrageous in any of them. If they were outrageous they'd be more interesting or thought provoking. They're all just dull.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:44:17am |
Iran May File Lawsuit Against President Obama Over Anti-Islam Film ‘Innocence of Muslims’
“A complaint could be filed with US courts against Obama for his violation of articles 18 and 27 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) calling for respect of faiths,” Javad Mohammadi, the deputy head of the Supreme Council of Cultural Revolution (SCCR), said on Sunday.
“Article 18 and 27 of the ICCPR, adopted by the United Nation, stipulate that the religion and the rights of the minorities should be respected,” Mohammadi said.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:44:41am |
re: #473 Killgore Trout
Iran May File Lawsuit Against President Obama Over Anti-Islam Film ‘Innocence of Muslims’
LOL!
BBL
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Mocking Jay Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:45:15am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:46:19am |
re: #462 sattv4u2
"After further review, the video evidence clearly shows Sattv4u2 using chemical agents to keep his side of the field clear of Kilgore's Autumn Garden, otherwise known as WEEDS. Sattv4u2 will not be charged a timeout"
Speaking of the garden I finally grew acceptable Celeriac this year. I'm looking forward to all those wonderful winter stews and soups.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:46:45am |
re: #473 Killgore Trout
Iran May File Lawsuit Against President Obama Over Anti-Islam Film ‘Innocence of Muslims’
Lynne Stewart has offered her services to Iran from her jail cell.
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:48:10am |
I'm sure he was just joking:
Rodeo Announcer Says Michelle Obama Belongs in National Geographic Magazine
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:49:04am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:51:34am |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:54:16am |
re: #481 Killgore Trout
Nice! I can occasionally find them at the Asian markets but they are really rare.
I have a big tree in the backyard. I have to pick them up before the deer get to them.
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:08:49am |
Todd Akin's wife compares GOP abandonment to rape, tyranny: tpm.ly/RgY98a— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) September 17, 2012
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:09:48am |
re: #472 Killgore Trout
Rushdie's book is really good. It's not his best-- that'd be, in my opinion, Midnight's Children, but it's awesome. Did you actually try to read it, or are you just basing this off third-hand information?
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:11:39am |
OWS protesters arrested near NYSE, no sign of 'people's wall'
Protesters are arrested during 'Occupy Wall Street' demonstrations Monday.
The opening bell rang on Wall Street this morning, amidst controlled chaos on downtown streets as protesters clogged foot traffic and renewed their calls for populist economic reform.
Dozens of Occupy Wall Street protesters have been arrested during a march near the New York Stock Exchange on the anniversary of the grass-roots movement.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:11:42am |
re: #483 Gus
You asked yesterday about the free speech implications of this...
NSW Premier asks for probe into boy holding beheading sign at anti-Islamic film protest in Sydney
THE NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell has asked the Family and Community Services Department to investigate the use of a young child photographed holding an sign calling for the beheading of those who insult the prophet.
"I asked the minister yesterday what can be done," he said on radio this morning.
He expected to have a reply sometime today.
The image of a Muslim mother photographing the little boy with the sign has infuriated the public, including members of the Muslim community.
I didn't think they'd bother with this but the are looking into it.
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dragonath Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:12:23am |
re: #484 Lidane
“God can increase,” she said, citing the “Feeding of the 5,000” — a Gospel miracle in which Jesus uses five small barley loaves and two small fish to feed a multitude. The campaign will take small contributions, “respect them, and say ‘God, multiply it. Make it pay,’ ” Lulli Akin said. “It brought us through the primary, same way. We’re gonna see it again, because God wants to be honored.”
C'mon. Keep talking. Keep it up until election day!
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:12:36am |
#hopeless.....Romney's New Strategy Turns Right; bit.ly/RZRJ7y— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) September 17, 2012
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:13:38am |
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:14:18am |
re: #489 Lidane
But Romney is going to bring the GOP back to the middle!
That forlorn hope of those permanently dedicated to magical balance fairy worship looks more and more like the ridiculous fantasy it was every day.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:14:19am |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:15:13am |
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:15:19am |
re: #487 Killgore Trout
You asked yesterday about the free speech implications of this...
NSW Premier asks for probe into boy holding beheading sign at anti-Islamic film protest in SydneyI didn't think they'd bother with this but the are looking into it.
That was hate speech and child abuse.
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erik_t Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:15:33am |
re: #492 Obdicut
But Romney is going to bring the GOP back to the middle!
That forlorn hope of those permanently dedicated to magical balance fairy worship looks more and more like the ridiculous fantasy it was every day.
He'll bring it back to wherever he thinks he's got his best shot of winning. Because the goal is the presidency as a prize, not the presidency as a way to move his country in a good direction.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:16:42am |
re: #495 Gus
That was hate speech and child abuse.
Could also be considered incitement to violence. I'm not that familiar with Australian laws.
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erik_t Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:17:26am |
re: #489 Lidane
"On the outside, here's what going to happen: we're going to nuke Barack Obama into radioactive sludge in the swing states with 3000-4000 points of TV in September," Wilson said.
This sounds like healthy discourse.
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dragonath Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:18:26am |
The idea that all the conservatives are gonna bring "their politically engaged friends" is pretty laughable, considering how insular Republican campaign events have been for the last decade.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:18:46am |
I can't really see a way going all out culture war will help him. May help with the base some but may also have the counter-effect of having more people turn out against him too.
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:19:24am |
re: #496 erik_t
I don't know what his motives are for seeking the presidency and I don't care. The part that was funny to me was people assuming that because he'd signed some liberal bills while governor of a liberal state that meant he really was a moderate, rather than recognizing he actually was about as a conservative as he could get while still getting anything done. He slashed education budgets, fought against gay rights. And the "Romneycare" thing was actually a conservative idea back then, too.
The one thing I can say about him is he's not a burn the government down conservative; he wants the wheels to spin, not to crash it into a wall, but since he's driving into the wrong direction anyway it doesn't really matter.
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erik_t Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:19:48am |
re: #500 dragonath
the idea that all the conservatives are gonna bring "their politically engaged friends" is pretty laughable, considering how insular Republican campaign events have been for the last decade.
But, y'know, it's shameful how the Democrat Party fights tooth and nail to keep all of those lazy ID-less low-information voters pulling the lever.
IOKIYAR.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:20:18am |
re: #501 HappyWarrior
I can't really see a way going all out culture war will help him. May help with the base some but may also have the counter-effect of having more people turn out against him too.
Well, it would mean going completely negative and he'd be preaching to the choir even more. If anything Romney would improve his chances by going more towards the center. It's too late though.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:21:29am |
re: #504 Gus
Well, it would mean going completely negative and he'd be preaching to the choir even more. If anything Romney would improve his chances by going more towards the center. It's too late though.
Yeah the time to more to the center was after he locked up the nomination in the late spring. Too late now as we come up on early fall.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:22:40am |
re: #497 Gus
Damn. Look at those pears shaped cops!
It's from the donuts.
Fishing for pigs. #RAD #S17instagr.am/p/PrK18qQCXC/— Federal Cox (@Federal_flashes) September 17, 2012
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dragonath Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:23:01am |
Obama should just run a targeted ad saying "sick of all these shitty ads... like, everywhere? So am I"
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erik_t Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:23:07am |
re: #505 HappyWarrior
Yeah the time to more to the center was after he locked up the nomination in the late spring. Too late now as we come up on early fall.
Well, in fairness to Romney, he never locked up the nomination in the conventional sense. His base support was, I think, far more fragile than is conventionally acknowledged.
Romney's strategists may have correctly ascertained that they were less able to pivot towards the middle than Gene R. Publican.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:24:30am |
re: #502 Obdicut
I don't know what his motives are for seeking the presidency and I don't care. The part that was funny to me was people assuming that because he'd signed some liberal bills while governor of a liberal state that meant he really was a moderate, rather than recognizing he actually was about as a conservative as he could get while still getting anything done. He slashed education budgets, fought against gay rights. And the "Romneycare" thing was actually a conservative idea back then, too.
The one thing I can say about him is he's not a burn the government down conservative; he wants the wheels to spin, not to crash it into a wall, but since he's driving into the wrong direction anyway it doesn't really matter.
In otherwords, you're saying his record is of that of someone I wouldn't want anywhere near the WH. Anyhow, I remember my first impression of him back in 2007ish after he left his job as Massachusetts governor. He was speaking at some Republican or conservative group, and he was doing the usual bash on Massachusetts red meat thing that the right just eats up for breakfast. And I thought that was lame. I mean I know Massachusetts has a reputation for among the most democratic and liberal states in the union but he could have talked about how this was the home state of the Adams father and son or Calvin Coolidge even. Just thought that was lame on his part.
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Kragar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:25:11am |
Todd Akin’s Wife Compares GOP Abandonment to Rape
Rep. Todd Akin’s wife, Lulli Akin, says the Republican Party’s attempts to push her husband out of the Missouri Senate race — over his false assertion that women who are raped rarely get pregnant — are like rape itself.
She also believes the GOP’s abandonment is on par with the tyranny that launched the American Revolution.
Akin’s wife isn’t the first one to compare Akin’s explosive rape comments, and the ensuing fallout, to rape: Bryan Fischer said the party’s treatment of the embattled candidate had made Akin “a victim of forcible assault.”
Lulli Akin made the charge in a new National Journal profile, which reveals a family affair of a campaign — Akin’s campaign manager is his son, and Lulli is also a key player.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:25:19am |
re: #508 erik_t
Well, in fairness to Romney, he never locked up the nomination in the conventional sense. His base support was, I think, far more fragile than is conventionally acknowledged.
Romney's strategists may have correctly ascertained that they were less able to pivot towards the middle than Gene R. Publican.
Yeah that's a good point.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:25:20am |
re: #506 NJDhockeyfan
It's from the donuts.
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It's rather ironic considering Bloomberg's war path on foods and the recent limits set on sugary soda pop. He outta try setting some physical standards within the NYPD. I'll wait. ;)
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:27:04am |
re: #512 Gus
It's rather ironic considering Bloomberg's war path on foods and the recent limits set on sugary soda pop. He outta try setting some physical standards within the NYPD. I'll wait. ;)
Ain't gonna happen. He'll have to fight the unions over something like that.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:27:45am |
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erik_t Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:32:07am |
re: #514 Killgore Trout
New images of the mystery bird-like drone crashed in Pakistan. Taken in Iraq.
Drones!
I wish popular discourse identified the difference between pure reconnaissance and actual weapons strikes. We've been doing the former continuously since, oh, Vietnam.
Though I do not personally subscribe to this view, I think a person can reasonably have a problem with seemingly-random missile strikes while not having a problem with unmanned recon.
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Eventual Carrion Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:32:28am |
re: #488 dragonath
C'mon. Keep talking. Keep it up until election day!
So now the fiscal plan boils down to "and then a miracle happens"?
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makeitstop Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:32:56am |
re: #499 erik_t
This sounds like healthy discourse.
The next line in that quote:
"Crossroads and Restore [two Republican SuperPACs] will do the same."
Isn't there supposed to be limited contact and coordination between campaigns and PACs? Doesn't sound like there's much daylight there.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:33:59am |
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erik_t Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:34:54am |
re: #517 makeitstop
Isn't there supposed to be limited contact and coordination between campaigns and PACs? Doesn't sound like there's much daylight there.
An obvious joke of a situation, and it has been an obvious joke since Day 1. Even if there were technically no cooperation, the cost of producing advertisements is dwarfed by the cost of putting them on the air. Crossroads or whichever other SuperPAC could easily make a dozen different spots anticipating possible directions for Romney (or Obama) to take his campaign, and then only air the ones that mirror the candidate's official campaign effort.
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:36:14am |
re: #500 dragonath
The idea that all the conservatives are gonna bring "their politically engaged friends" is pretty laughable, considering how insular Republican campaign events have been for the last decade.
The paradox of American liberalism RT @drgrist: "Following the facts where they lead me" is WHY I'm a liberal, not some alternative to it.— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) September 17, 2012
That about sums it up, really.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:36:28am |
For all you geeks out there, happy anniversary...
Today in Geek History: In 1991, Linus Torvalds uploaded 1st Linux kernel's 10,239 lines of code--0.07% of today's v3.6rc5.— thinkgeek (@thinkgeek) September 17, 2012
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Mattand Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:37:06am |
re: #508 erik_t
Well, in fairness to Romney, he never locked up the nomination in the conventional sense.
Yeah, because he was the least insane in a field that consisted of certifiable radicals and loons.
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Kragar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:37:32am |
Since violence broke out across the region, Republicans have charged that Obama’s “defeatist” policies have caused the unrest and contributed to the death of Libyan ambassador Christopher Stevens. But pressed to detail where Obama has apologized for America by CNN host Soledad O’Brien, King came up short:
O’BRIEN: Never once in that speech, as you know, which I have the speech right here. that was — he never once used the word “apology.” He never once said “I’m sorry.”KING: Didn’t have to. The logical — any logical reading of that speech or the speech he gave in France where he basically said that the United States can be too aggressive. [...]
O’BRIEN: Everybody keeps talking about this apology tour and apologies from the President. I’m trying to find the words ‘I’m sorry, I apologize’ in any of those speeches. Which I have the text of all those speeches in front of me. None of those speeches at all, if you go to factcheck.org which we check in a lot, they all say the same thing. They fact check this and they say this whole theory of apologies…
KING: I don’t care what fact check says.
O’BRIEN: There are fact checks. You may not care, but they’re a fact checker.
KING: No. Soledad. Any commonsense interpretation of those speeches, the president’s apologizing for the American position. That’s the apology tour. That’s the way it’s interpreted in the Middle East. If I go over and say that the U.S. has violated its principles, that the United States has not shown respect for islam, that’s an apology. How else can it be interpreted?
O’BRIEN: I think plenty of people are interpreting it as a nuanced approach to diplomacy is how some people are interpreting it. So I don’t think that everybody agrees it’s apology.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:37:46am |
re: #522 Mattand
Yeah, because he was the least insane in a field that consisted of certifiable radicals and loons.
Well he was the least insane of the candidates that had a chance. I think Huntsman is more sane than Romney.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:37:56am |
re: #520 Lidane
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That about sums it up, really.
Sounds like "argumentum ad I'm a liberal."
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:39:40am |
re: #523 Kragar
This is rich coming from a guy who was an IRA apologist until it became politically inconvenient. póg mo thóin, Petey.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:40:18am |
re: #526 HappyWarrior
This is rich coming from a guy who was an IRA apologist until it became politically inconviently. póg mo thóin, Petey.
Same IRA that supported the PLO.
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Kragar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:40:47am |
Joe Scarborough On The Entire Muslim World: ‘They Hate Us Because Of Their Religion’
This morning on MSNBC, Joe Scarborough accused every single person in Muslim and Arab world of hating the United States. According to Scarborough, “if you scratch the surface, and if you gave every street vendor to prime minister in that region a chance to throw a rock at the U.S. embassy, they would.”
Scarborough added: “You know why they hate us? They hate us because of their religion, they hate us because of their culture, and they hate us because of peer pressure.” He said that anyone who believes “we’re going to go over there and change them” is “naive.”
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:41:08am |
re: #527 Gus
Same IRA that supported the PLO.
And did business with Gaddafi. But, Obama's the apologist.//
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:41:45am |
re: #529 HappyWarrior
And did business with Gaddafi. But, Obama's the apologist.//
People are complex.
//
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Mattand Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:43:57am |
re: #510 Kragar
What's really upsetting about these comparisons is that the Akins probably have no idea of the trauma and violation that must be involved in a sexual assault.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:44:05am |
re: #531 Obdicut
So his proposed solution is what?
I assume do little to nothing in the region. I think I remember hearing Scarborough sing Ron Paul's praises.
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Kragar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:44:51am |
re: #531 Obdicut
So his proposed solution is what?
Apparently his plan is to act like a gigantic dick and hope it scares them off.
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Eventual Carrion Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:45:02am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:45:04am |
Here's a Commie
There's a Commie
Commies to the Left
Commies to the Right
I SCREAM Commies.
Mares eat oats
and does oats
but little lambs eat Commies.
Yes, it is once again, Morning. Worse, it's Monday morning.
I blame the commies.
you?
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kirkspencer Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:45:05am |
re: #532 Mattand
What's really upsetting about these comparisons is that the Akins probably have no idea of the trauma and violation that must be involved in a sexual assault.
Oh, I disagree. What really upsets me is the idea that they may actually know of the trauma and violation and choose to say this anyway.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:46:06am |
re: #528 Kragar
Joe Scarborough On The Entire Muslim World: ‘They Hate Us Because Of Their Religion’
Absurd really. They're no more representative of Muslims as the KKK is of American Christians.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:46:16am |
re: #528 Kragar
Joe Scarborough On The Entire Muslim World: ‘They Hate Us Because Of Their Religion’
I don't know Joe, maybe they hate us because for nearly 100 the West has been acting like condenscending pricks.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:46:17am |
re: #536 ggt
Here's a Commie
There's a Commie
Commies to the Left
Commies to the Right
I SCREAM Commies.Mares eat oats
and does oats
but little lambs eat Commies.Yes, it is once again, Morning. Worse, it's Monday morning.
I blame the commies.
you?
The monarchists.
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Mattand Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:46:18am |
re: #524 HappyWarrior
Well he was the least insane of the candidates that had a chance. I think Huntsman is more sane than Romney.
He projects a moderate air, but I think he's just as around the bend on certain subjects as Romney. May be mistaken, but I think he's pretty hardcore anti-abortion.
Huntsman's (and Romney's) adavantage is that they're not proud of their foaming at the mouth, unlike folks like Bachmann, Santourm, and Cain.
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Mattand Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:47:27am |
re: #537 kirkspencer
Oh, I disagree. What really upsets me is the idea that they may actually know of the trauma and violation and choose to say this anyway.
True. My original post had a comment about them being in the "blame the victim" school, but I couldn't word it right.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:47:53am |
I have never been so happy to see someone get tasered.
I have 1 million Standard Galactic Credits that says this idiot is a Luap Nor fanatic, too.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:48:03am |
re: #536 ggt
Here's a Commie
There's a Commie
Commies to the Left
Commies to the Right
I SCREAM Commies.Mares eat oats
and does oats
but little lambs eat Commies.Yes, it is once again, Morning. Worse, it's Monday morning.
I blame the commies.
you?
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:48:08am |
re: #541 Mattand
He projects a moderate air, but I think he's just as around the bend on certain subjects as Romney. May be mistaken, but I think he's pretty hardcore anti-abortion.
Huntsman's (and Romney's) adavantage is that they're not proud of their foaming at the mouth, unlike folks like Bachmann, Santourm, and Cain.
You'd be correct. Anyhow, reason I think Huntsman is more sane than Romney is foreign policy. Huntsman doesn't talk about China like a moron.
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:48:16am |
re: #533 HappyWarrior
I assume do little to nothing in the region. I think I remember hearing Scarborough sing Ron Paul's praises.
Not just the region, though. We've got lots of Muslims here in America. If he's actually blaming Islam, then something would have to be done about that.
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:48:44am |
Anti-Islam Filmmaker Becomes a Martyr to the Right bit.ly/RYnSSk— Mother Jones (@MotherJones) September 17, 2012
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:48:52am |
re: #510 Kragar
Because being a whacko and telling the world about it is just like wearing a mini skirt?
I am so confused with this strange twisted mindset.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:49:22am |
re: #544 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
I have never been so happy to see someone get tasered.
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I have 1 million Standard Galactic Credits that says this idiot is a Luap Nor fanatic, too.
Ugh. Sounds like a Sovereign Citizen.
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:51:00am |
re: #546 HappyWarrior
You'd be correct. Anyhow, reason I think Huntsman is more sane than Romney is foreign policy. Huntsman doesn't talk about China like a moron.
Huntsman panders to the economic illiteracy of the right by doing stupid shit, such as praising the Ryan plan. And he's definitely a conservative on some things, such as abortion and reproductive rights.
However, he speaks a language other than English, doesn't have his head up his ass about foreign policy, and committed the unpardonable sin of serving in the Obama administration, so he never had a chance.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:51:15am |
re: #544 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
That made me happy.
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abolitionist Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:51:26am |
Warp Drive May Be More Feasible Than Thought, Scientists Say
HOUSTON — A warp drive to achieve faster-than-light travel — a concept popularized in television's Star Trek — may not be as unrealistic as once thought, scientists say.
A warp drive would manipulate space-time itself to move a starship, taking advantage of a loophole in the laws of physics that prevent anything from moving faster than light.
[snip]
Warping space-timeAn Alcubierre warp drive would involve a football-shape spacecraft attached to a large ring encircling it. This ring, potentially made of exotic matter, would cause space-time to warp around the starship, creating a region of contracted space in front of it and expanded space behind. [Star Trek's Warp Drive: Are We There Yet? | Video]
Meanwhile, the starship itself would stay inside a bubble of flat space-time that wasn't being warped at all.
Reminds me a little of a flying machine I've never gotten around to inventing yet.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:51:54am |
re: #544 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
I have never been so happy to see someone get tasered.
[Embedded content]
I have 1 million Standard Galactic Credits that says this idiot is a Luap Nor fanatic, too.
Lol, good one.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:51:59am |
re: #550 Gus
Ugh. Sounds like a Sovereign Citizen.
My thoughts but couldn't remember the name of the kook brigade.
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erik_t Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:52:11am |
re: #553 abolitionist
Warp Drive May Be More Feasible Than Thought, Scientists Say
Reminds me a little of a flying machine I've never gotten around to inventing yet.
Guh. Stop trying to write about science, Yahoo.
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HappyWarrior Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:53:06am |
re: #551 Lidane
Huntsman panders to the economic illiteracy of the right by doing stupid shit, such as praising the Ryan plan. And he's definitely a conservative on some things, such as abortion and reproductive rights.
However, he speaks a language other than English, doesn't have his head up his ass about foreign policy, and committed the unpardonable sin of serving in the Obama administration, so he never had a chance.
He's no moderate that's for sure. Really how sad is it that a man who pledged to get rid of the EPA is now a moderate or even liberal by GOP presidential candidate standards? Nixon's cursing in his grave. In defense of Huntsman, he is for a reddest of red state Republicans surprisingly decent on gay rights- pro civil union but anti gay marriage but I doubt he would ever see a civil union bill come to his desk in Utah.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:53:07am |
re: #544 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
Hey, the tazer bearer should get Ferengi certified gold-plated latinum!!!
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:53:08am |
re: #555 Cannadian Club Akbar
My thoughts but couldn't remember the name of the kook brigade.
That was freaking hilarious...
"God's not interested in your camera, I am..."
"That's a nice speech but you're still not coming in."
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Kragar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:54:13am |
re: #556 erik_t
Guh. Stop trying to write about science, Yahoo.
Yahoo original stories are absolutely terrible.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:54:34am |
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abolitionist Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:54:43am |
re: #556 erik_t
Guh. Stop trying to write about science, Yahoo.
Is this link better? [Link: www.space.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:55:03am |
re: #559 Gus
That was freaking hilarious...
"God's not interested in your camera, I am..."
"That's a nice speech but you're still not coming in."
Ever notice with these people, they're normal, normal, then they go full bore crazy?
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:57:08am |
[Link: www.trust.org...]
Supporters of Lebanon's Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah burn an Israeli flag at an anti-U.S. protest in Beirut's southern suburbs September 17, 2012.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:59:42am |
News story on that taser video.
Man tased in courthouse brouhaha
COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho -
A 21-year-old man who refused to turn off his video camera in the Kootenai County courthouse ended up running afoul of court officers and was tased, cuffed and booked into the jail.
His original crime? Riding his bicycle at night without a light.
On Monday, Robert Peterson walked into the courthouse for a hearing with his video camera on, rolling as he went through security, walked to the courtroom and sat down.
In Idaho the law even requires the media to get permission before filming, something Patterson did not do when he showed up and started recording everything.
Continues.
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erik_t Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:00:16am |
re: #562 abolitionist
Is this link better? [Link: www.space.com...]
I get that we want to build interest in space and science and all that, but it really pisses me off when such pie-in-the-sky stuff is presented in lieu of actual awesome stuff that is actually happening.
We've gone from lolnope to lolnope, really. Causality is so, so, so deeply ingrained in every damned thing we know about the universe that recalculating an energy requirement (which I'd note is still around the total world yearly energy use) should not be enough to make it above the fold.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:03:25am |
re: #553 abolitionist
Warp Drive May Be More Feasible Than Thought, Scientists Say
Reminds me a little of a flying machine I've never gotten around to inventing yet.
IIRC this is similar to the star drive in James Hogan's Giants novels.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:04:19am |
My friend at work has been going to church much more since her son died a year ago on his 21st birthday. The church she goes to is nice and the preacher is wonderful.
This weekend her and her friend went to a different one. That so-called preacher there told the congregation what women shouldn't do with men who aren't their husband...don't get in a car with them, don't touch them, and only look in their eyes when you speak with them.
LOL!
Her and her friend are having fun emailing each other back and forth with that.
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:04:38am |
LOL forever:
U.N. GUN-CONTROL TREATY: BAD FOR GUN OWNERSExclusive: Chuck Norris warns of agreement that could regulate sale... fb.me/1dy4hw05a— WND News (@worldnetdaily) September 17, 2012
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erik_t Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:05:35am |
re: #569 Lidane
When I look for sensible national policy, I know who to turn to.
ROUNDHOUSE KICK THAT POLICY RIGHT IN THE FACE YOU GLORIOUS SUMBITCH
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:06:57am |
re: #559 Gus
That was freaking hilarious...
"God's not interested in your camera, I am..."
"That's a nice speech but you're still not coming in."
"you could give your camera to your Mother."
ROTFLAMO
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:08:16am |
re: #565 Gus
News story on that taser video.
Man tased in courthouse brouhaha
COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho -
He was all strong and macho until he got tazered --then he wimpered like a little kid.
The security had to be just dying to laugh-out-loud.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:08:35am |
Iran increases price on 'Satanic Verses' author Salman Rushdie's head by $500K
..."I am adding another $500,000 to the reward for killing Salman Rushdie, and anyone who carries out this sentence will receive the whole amount immediately," said Hassan Sanei, the foundation's head, in a statement carried by the Iranian Students' News Agency (ISNA).
Did inflation have anything to do with the increase of the reward amount?
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:09:05am |
Oh brother. People are just so outraged these days.
Ridiculous smearing of Maureen Dowd
She said "neocons" and used the word "slither" therefore she's an anti-Semite!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:09:57am |
re: #573 NJDhockeyfan
Iran increases price on 'Satanic Verses' author Salman Rushdie's head by $500K
Did inflation have anything to do with the increase of the reward amount?
Everytime I hear of a fatwa issued for Rushdie, I purchase a copy of the Book in support. I really don't need any more copies. May have to buy another for this one.
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:10:26am |
The Caucus: Romney Aide Concedes Campaign Has Been Short on Specifics nyti.ms/SucRmK— The New York Times (@nytimes) September 17, 2012
That's okay. Paul Ryan said they'd hammer out the details after taking office.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:11:24am |
re: #573 NJDhockeyfan
Iran increases price on 'Satanic Verses' author Salman Rushdie's head by $500K
Did inflation have anything to do with the increase of the reward amount?
New barber.
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erik_t Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:11:30am |
re: #576 Lidane
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That's okay. Paul Ryan said they'd hammer out the details after taking office.
Who knew Ann's 'Trust Me' would become the actual meat of the campaign's policy argument?
(well, lots of us)
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makeitstop Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:11:30am |
re: #576 Lidane
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That's okay. Paul Ryan said they'd hammer out the details after taking office.
Yeah, Congress will work it all out. Not to worry.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:11:47am |
re: #572 ggt
He was all strong and macho until he got tazered --then he wimpered like a little kid.
The security had to be just dying to laugh-out-loud.
All for what was probably a 30 dollar fine. You should not be riding your bike at night without a light -- end of story.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:13:55am |
re: #579 makeitstop
Yeah, Congress will work it all out. Not to worry.
Oh, like that "Super Committee" deal to settle the budget cutting after the last debt ceiling increase?
/
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:13:56am |
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makeitstop Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:14:38am |
This just in: Obama to remain on Kansas ballot
Kobach chickened out. And Orly Taitz was on hand to lend her 'expertise.'
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abolitionist Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:15:44am |
re: #580 Gus
All for what was probably a 30 dollar fine. You should not be riding your bike at night without a light -- end of story.
Plus court costs, I'd assume --about $75 or so here.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:17:56am |
re: #584 abolitionist
Plus court costs, I'd assume --about $75 or so here.
He chose to contest it. So OK, about 105 bucks total because he would lose. Now he's sitting in jail on $50,000 bail with several serious charges.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:19:13am |
There are 1.6 *billion* Muslims in the world, many of whom do not synchronize their emotional states.— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) September 17, 2012
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makeitstop Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:20:23am |
I don't really buy Kobach's assertion that he didn't know Taitz - but this is still kinda funny.
“I didn’t know her until I started receiving emails over the weekend, submissions of documents by email,” Bryant said. “So she showed up and wanted to speak but wasn’t allowed to, but she did get interviewed by several press people.”
I can imagine Taitz sitting in front of the computer, spamming Kobach with hundreds of documents.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:21:20am |
re: #586 Gus
They want all Muslims on a single emotional wavelength since it's easier to broad brush demonize them. And they wish all Christians were on the same emotional wavelength that they were on so that their claims of spokesperson for a religion had some actual legitimacy.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:21:54am |
Maureen Dowd May Or May Not Be Anti-Semitic, Depending on Whom You Ask
Add the word "slither" to your list of banned words.
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Shropshire_Slasher Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:22:39am |
re: #544 Our Precious Bodily Fluids
What should he have said? "Here mom, hold my camera, I'm gonna open up a can o' whoop-ass."
Then he could get his ass tasered
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:22:45am |
re: #589 Gus
Maureen Dowd May Or May Not Be Anti-Semitic, Depending on Whom You Ask
Add the word "slither" to your list of banned words.
...
On the right, The Weekly Standard's Daniel Halper called it "outrageous," while Commentary's Jonathan Tobin described it as "particularly creepy."
"Dowd's column marks yet another step down into the pit of hate-mongering that has become all too common at the Times," Tobin wrote. "This is a tipping point that should alarm even the most stalwart liberal Jewish supporters of the president."
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makeitstop Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:24:45am |
"This is a tipping point that should alarm even the most stalwart liberal Jewish supporters of the president."
So, Dowd writes something and everyone should take it out on Obama?
Makes sense.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:25:05am |
re: #455 Killgore Trout
Yeah, It's Think Progress so not surprising they are misrepresenting the context. However, Ayaan has said a lot of over the top stuff in the past, she's unfortunately not much of a role model for the rest of us. But she has her own thing going on. She's often too bitter for my taste but I do admire her courage.
Wait a minute. Did you actually read that Think Progress article, or are you just making assumptions again? Because in fact, they didn't misrepresent anything. They reported Hirsi Ali's words in full, in their proper context.
And while it may not be correct to say she was "sympathizing" with Breivik, she was very definitely making excuses for the anti-Muslim crowd and holding them blameless for inspiring Breivik, by claiming that it was the LACK of discussion of anti-Muslim views that drove him to his crimes.
Not only did they post the entire quote in context, they included a video of her full statement.
Fourthly and finally, that one man who killed 77 people in Norway, because he fears that Europe will be overrun by Islam, may have cited the work of those who speak and write against political Islam in Europe and America – myself among them – but he does not say in his 1500 page manifesto that it was these people who inspired him to kill. He says very clearly that it was the advocates of silence. Because all outlets to express his views were censored, he says, he had no other choice but to use violence.
They didn't "misrespresent" anything at all.
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abolitionist Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:25:31am |
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freetoken Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:26:22am |
Getting some play around the net:
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:27:45am |
re: #579 makeitstop
Yeah, Congress will work it all out. Not to worry.
Pretty much. And this after Romney HQ promised details:
Romney camp won't offer specifics on new pledge to offer specifics: tpm.ly/UfGny7— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) September 17, 2012
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:28:49am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:30:06am |
re: #593 Charles Johnson
I ignored it because the link went to Think Progress. I find them dishonest enough to completely ignore. I was just responding to someone else who checked out the story and found it inaccurate. I have no personal opinion on the accuracy of the article but i'm not surprised some people may find her comments were misrepresented.
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makeitstop Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:30:07am |
re: #596 Lidane
Pretty much. And this after Romney HQ promised details:
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From the article:
Mitt Romney’s campaign promised to unveil more specifics on Romney’s campaign proposals during a conference call with reporters Monday, pushing back on bipartisan criticism that the Republican has yet to say clearly what he’d actually do in office.
But the campaign’s pledge for specifics was lacking new specifics itself — campaign officials instead listed a litany of policy proposals Romney’s already discussed on the campaign trail.
Meta fail.
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Interesting Times Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:32:57am |
Tim Burton's "Mars Attacks" was an oversimplification of complex issues! #MartianRage— SarcasticRover (@SarcasticRover) September 17, 2012
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Lidane Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:34:02am |
Protip: if your constitutional amendment removes rights instead of protects them, you're doing it wrong.— Melissa Kaercher (@chebutykin) September 17, 2012
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freetoken Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:35:04am |
Anyone for BINGO?
National Republican Congressional Committee raffling off lunch with Christie
For a $10 donation, you could win lunch with Governor Christie.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:35:16am |
re: #598 Killgore Trout
I ignored it because the link went to Think Progress. I find them dishonest enough to completely ignore. I was just responding to someone else who checked out the story and found it inaccurate. I have no personal opinion on the accuracy of the article but i'm not surprised some people may find her comments were misrepresented.
Here's the whole speech if you want to read it.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:36:16am |
re: #598 Killgore Trout
I ignored it because the link went to Think Progress. I find them dishonest enough to completely ignore. I was just responding to someone else who checked out the story and found it inaccurate. I have no personal opinion on the accuracy of the article but i'm not surprised some people may find her comments were misrepresented.
Right, that's what I figured. You ignored it, but still felt it was appropriate to express an opinion about something you hadn't even read. And for some reason, you seem to think that makes you look good.
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dragonath Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:36:25am |
re: #602 freetoken
Anyone for BINGO?
National Republican Congressional Committee raffling off lunch with Christie
For a $10 donation you could be Governor Christie's lunch.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:36:34am |
Firefighters rescue kitten from 4-inch sewer pipe in Portland bit.ly/QUducc #fire #firefighter— Fire Daily (@FireDaily) September 17, 2012
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researchok Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:39:54am |
re: #603 Gus
Read it.
It was a good speech.
You don't have to march in lockstep to see that.
IMO, anyway.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:41:31am |
re: #510 Kragar
Yes ma'am, Mitt Romney deciding not to appear on stage with your husband is exactly as if he'd raped your husband.
/dripping
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A Mom Anon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:42:49am |
re: #598 Killgore Trout
OFFS Kilgore. Fine,if you think that Think Progress isn't honest,then why not read her actual words and make a decision before you make yourself look foolish? You do this alot, the skimming over articles, the not watching videos or tv programs being discussed,etc. There's having an opinion,and then having an informed opinion,the latter being a more practical approach to having a discussion,you know,like we're trying to do here.
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Eventual Carrion Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:43:16am |
re: #583 makeitstop
This just in: Obama to remain on Kansas ballot
Kobach chickened out. And Orly Taitz was on hand to lend her 'expertise.'
Is she trying to find Kobach a house in his price range in a nice neighborhood?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:44:20am |
re: #605 dragonath
Only if you're a liberal. He eats the ribs of liberals with a good beer and cheese fries.
/He's a Republican from Real America. Only liberals eat fava beans or drink Chianti!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:48:29am |
re: #604 Charles Johnson
Right, that's what I figured. You ignored it, but still felt it was appropriate to express an opinion about something you hadn't even read. And for some reason, you seem to think that makes you look good.
Since Gus linked to the speech and it seems to be an issue now I read the whole thing. I don't find her speech outrageous and I don't find her attitude towards censorship to be extreme. It's actually one of her more tame speeches. She doesn't appear to be a supporter of Brevik or his actions.
Sorry but think progress has pushed too many fake stories, out of context quotes and misleading headlines for me. They lost me as an audience, I usually just ignore them.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:49:20am |
re: #609 A Mom Anon
OFFS Kilgore. Fine,if you think that Think Progress isn't honest,then why not read her actual words and make a decision before you make yourself look foolish? You do this alot, the skimming over articles, the not watching videos or tv programs being discussed,etc. There's having an opinion,and then having an informed opinion,the latter being a more practical approach to having a discussion,you know,like we're trying to do here.
I was just respond to someone else who posted their opinion. I read their opinion and responded to it.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:51:05am |
re: #604 Charles Johnson
Right, that's what I figured. You ignored it, but still felt it was appropriate to express an opinion about something you hadn't even read. And for some reason, you seem to think that makes you look good.
I read the opinion of the poster I responded to.I found the conclusion of that poster unsurprising given the history of Think Progress.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:52:00am |
re: #612 Killgore Trout
Sorry but think progress has pushed too many fake stories, out of context quotes and misleading headlines for me.
I'd ask you to give an example, but I know you can't, so why bother?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:53:53am |
re: #603 Gus
Here's the whole speech if you want to read it.
Fourthly and finally, that one man who killed 77 people in Norway, because he fears that Europe will be overrun by Islam, may have cited the work of those who speak and write against political Islam in Europe and America – myself among them – but he does not say in his 1500 page manifesto that it was these people who inspired him to kill. He says very clearly that it was the advocates of silence. Because all outlets to express his views were censored, he says, he had no other choice but to use violence.
WOW, I'm going to have to ponder that for a while.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:55:56am |
By the way, Hirsi Ali's claim that "all other outlets" to discuss Breivik's anti-Muslim views were "closed" is a ludicrous and completely false claim. This bigoted crap is absolutely everywhere on the Internet. The truth is exactly the opposite of what she said.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:56:22am |
re: #616 ggt
WOW, I'm going to have to ponder that for a while.
Yeah. Using Breivik as an example was a poor choice. I mean he's really an example of a criminal response. Some would say a psychotic response. However, there is a problem with self-censorship if that's the correct word. We don't apply our critical thinking skill equally amongst our criticisms.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:56:35am |
Louisiana State University Evacuated Due To Bomb Threat
BATON ROUGE, Louisiana - Police evacuated Louisiana State University's main campus Monday after someone called in a bomb threat.
The call came into the East Baton Rouge Parish 911 center. LSU administrators determined the threat was significant enough to evacuate the campus.
Students were notified by text about the evacuation. So far, authorities have found nothing.
This comes after bomb threats at the University of Texas and North Dakota State University last week.
Hopefully this is just a false alarm like last week.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:57:01am |
re: #615 Charles Johnson
I'd ask you to give an example, but I know you can't, so why bother?
I think the headline to the Ayaan Hirsi Ali article was misleading. She's not a supporter of Brekivik as the headline implies and she's not promoting his ideas. It's a decent article about censorship. I don't a agree with every line but I don;t think it's outrageous.
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Gus Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:58:35am |
re: #620 Killgore Trout
I think the headline to the Ayaan Hirsi Ali article was misleading. She's not a supporter of Brekivik as the headline implies and she's not promoting his ideas. It's a decent article about censorship. I don't a agree with every line but I don;t think it's outrageous.
I agree. But I'll still keep reading TP. ;)
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:59:24am |
re: #620 Killgore Trout
I think the headline to the Ayaan Hirsi Ali article was misleading. She's not a supporter of Brekivik as the headline implies and she's not promoting his ideas. It's a decent article about censorship. I don't a agree with every line but I don;t think it's outrageous.
The headline:
Conservative Think Tank Scholar Promotes Claim That Norway Terrorist Attacked Because He Was Censored
Please explain how this is misleading. It's exactly what she said in her speech:
Fourthly and finally, that one man who killed 77 people in Norway, because he fears that Europe will be overrun by Islam, may have cited the work of those who speak and write against political Islam in Europe and America – myself among them – but he does not say in his 1500 page manifesto that it was these people who inspired him to kill. He says very clearly that it was the advocates of silence. Because all outlets to express his views were censored, he says, he had no other choice but to use violence.
The headline is not misleading. It's completely accurate.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Sep 17, 2012 11:02:06am |
re: #618 Gus
Yeah. Using Breivik as an example was a poor choice. I mean he's really an example of a criminal response. Some would say a psychotic response. However, there is a problem with self-censorship if that's the correct word. We don't apply our critical thinking skill equally amongst our criticisms.
Because of his mental illness, he lacked the skills to utilize avenues for self-expression. I.E. --a psychiatrist.
I can see her point tho. Those who are unable to integrate would feel unable to express their views in ways other than violence.
More a case for MORE social services to reach those individuals.
There seems to be a special lure of these whacko man-cults. Whether the Neo-Nazi's or the Whacko Fundamentalists of any religion or even the KKK. Seems any young man can be lured in.
Scary as shit to me.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 17, 2012 11:02:55am |
re: #620 Killgore Trout
I hear you, Killgore, but I'd advise you to let the matter rest. Getting into an argument like this (especially with Charles) is not really wise. It can't make you look good and it threatens to make you look like an ass.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 17, 2012 11:04:07am |
re: #623 ggt
Hirsi Ali's real point in making the false claim that Breivik's views were "censored" (they were absolutely not censored in any way) is to absolve herself and her anti-Muslim associates of any blame for his crimes.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 17, 2012 11:04:36am |
re: #621 Gus
I agree. But I'll still keep reading TP. ;)
That's fine. I gave up on them long ago but I'm not telling anyone else what to read.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Mon, Sep 17, 2012 11:08:58am |
re: #625 Charles Johnson
Hirsi Ali's real point in making the false claim that Breivik's views were "censored" (they were absolutely not censored in any way) is to absolve herself and her anti-Muslim associates of any blame for his crimes.
ah!
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 17, 2012 11:09:11am |
re: #602 freetoken
Anyone for BINGO?
National Republican Congressional Committee raffling off lunch with Christie
It's the GOP--you pick up the tab.
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wrenchwench Mon, Sep 17, 2012 11:20:58am |
re: #595 freetoken
Getting some play around the net:
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The vid played for me here, but wouldn't at YouTube, so I may not get to see the rest.
There were a few errors in Part One, like Mormons not being allowed to own guns. (Mexicans are not allowed to own guns, except by a very difficult permit process, but the LeBaron family got permission after being repeatedly attacked by cartel thugs). I've been following news from that area for a while. My most recent Page about it is here.
It might be an exaggeration to say that Mitt Romney is "personally" affected by this. His relatives down there say he never visits, has not been in touch at all.
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Romantic Heretic Mon, Sep 17, 2012 11:35:28am |
re: #516 RayFerd
So now the fiscal plan boils down to "and then a miracle happens"?
Having just finished watching Torchwood Season 4, Miracle Day, I'm not as eager to see miracles in action anymore.
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Obdicut Mon, Sep 17, 2012 12:12:45pm |
re: #626 Killgore Trout
Does your sense of irony twinge at all when attacking TP as dishonest while you're dishonestly claiming they took something out of context?
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Decatur Deb Mon, Sep 17, 2012 12:17:01pm |
(Think a comment on ggt's page got sent here.)
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BillyCrims Mon, Sep 17, 2012 12:38:51pm |
Pete Seeger asked Billy Bragg to sing the Inernationale at an event some time ago. Billy replied that the lyrics in the English version were "archaic and hard to sing". Pete suggested that he rewrite them.
Here's Billy's version:
Stand up, all victims of oppression
For the tyrants fear your might
Don't cling so hard to your possessions
For you have nothing, if you have no rights
Let racist ignorance be ended
For respect makes the empires fall
Freedom is merely privilege extended
Unless enjoyed by one and all
Chorus:
So come brothers and sisters
For the struggle carries on
The internationale
Unites the world in song
So comrades come rally
For this is the time and place
The international ideal
Unites the human race
Let no one build walls to divide us
Walls of hatred nor walls of stone
Come greet the dawn and stand beside us
We'll live together or we'll die alone
In our world poisoned by exploitation
Those who have taken, now they must give
And end the vanity of nations
We've but one earth on which to live
And so begins the final drama
In the streets and in the fields
We stand unbowed before their armour
We defy their guns and shields
When we fight, provoked by their aggression
Let us be inspired by like and love
For though they offer us concessions
Change will not come from above
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