Nate Silver: Obama’s Chance of Winning Now at 91.4%
Tonight Nate Silver’s polling models are giving President Obama a 91.4% chance of winning, with 314 electoral votes compared to Mitt Romney’s 223.
Tonight Nate Silver’s polling models are giving President Obama a 91.4% chance of winning, with 314 electoral votes compared to Mitt Romney’s 223.
1 | Targetpractice Mon, Nov 5, 2012 8:48:56pm |
Which just goes to show that Nate Silver is totally in the tank for Obama!
2 | jaunte Mon, Nov 5, 2012 8:48:59pm |
Shorter Michael Gerson: I don't like Nate Silver's math because it means I can't draw meaning & purpose from politics wapo.st/Pzvf1J
— Peter Suderman (@petersuderman) November 6, 2012
3 | darthstar Mon, Nov 5, 2012 8:50:56pm |
It's down...it went up to 92% earlier. But that was after jumping up from 89% while I was reading the blog.
(By the way, if the paygate is hitting you, delete all cookies with NYTIMES in them and reload the page...but for god's sake don't tell the NY Times about this).
Looking forward to tomorrow's polling results. Those are the ones that count.
4 | jaunte Mon, Nov 5, 2012 8:51:30pm |
5 | darthstar Mon, Nov 5, 2012 8:51:36pm |
Just in case you're wondering: [Link: isnatesilverawitch.com...]
6 | Kragar Mon, Nov 5, 2012 8:51:44pm |
BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI!
7 | darthstar Mon, Nov 5, 2012 8:53:21pm |
re: #6 Kragar
BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI!
I had a pinched nerve in my neck recently, and I applied BENGHAZI to it, and it felt much better afterward.
8 | SpaceJesus Mon, Nov 5, 2012 8:54:06pm |
Three guys hanging out backstage in Columbus: twitter.com/BarackObama/st…— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) November 6, 2012
9 | blueraven Mon, Nov 5, 2012 8:55:23pm |
re: #4 jaunte
Greenwood's 'Fired Up' Edith Childs Casts SC Votes for Obama
Just watched the President give his final campaign speech in Iowa, telling the story of Edith Childs...it was an emotional speech.
10 | Kragar Mon, Nov 5, 2012 8:56:05pm |
re: #7 darthstar
I had a pinched nerve in my neck recently, and I applied BENGHAZI to it, and it felt much better afterward.
Two Benghazis diverged in a wood, and I... I took the one less traveled.
12 | Lidane Mon, Nov 5, 2012 8:56:22pm |
re: #8 SpaceJesus
Tonight's a Springsteen night. I've got the Boss streaming on Spotify right now. Good stuff.
13 | darthstar Mon, Nov 5, 2012 8:57:21pm |
re: #10 Kragar
Two Benghazis diverged in a wood, and I... I took the one less traveled.
We have nothing to fear but Benghazi itself.
14 | jaunte Mon, Nov 5, 2012 8:58:14pm |
That old Benghazi has me in its spell.
That old Benghazi Fox News weaves so well...
15 | Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:00:19pm |
With 0.0% of precincts reporting in, I'm calling this election for Jethro Q. Walrustitty.
16 | Targetpractice Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:00:42pm |
re: #6 Kragar
BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI!
Is that like saying "Beetlejuice" three times?
//
17 | DelusionDeluge Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:01:05pm |
Benghazi will be the Lewinsky of the second term. I sense half of the outrage will be trying to pin something on Hillary to stop her inevitable run in 2016. Brace yourselves for more Darrell Issa than any human should be forced to handle.
18 | Targetpractice Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:02:26pm |
re: #17 DelusionDeluge
Benghazi will be the Lewinsky of the second term. I sense half of the outrage will be trying to pin something on Hillary to stop her inevitable run in 2016. Brace yourselves for more Darrell Issa than any human should be forced to handle.
Even though she's said she'll retire after this term, taking a lot of the sting out of demands for her resignation.
19 | b_snark (Fact-Checker Extraordinaire) Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:04:09pm |
I think Michelle Obama should run in 2016.
20 | engineer cat Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:05:01pm |
i'll venture to predict that we won't know who won by midnight pst tomorrow
21 | jaunte Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:05:25pm |
Dixville Notch: Obama 5 Romney 5. A tie!!!— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) November 6, 2012
"As all of you West Wing fans out there will know, a tiny town in northern New Hampshire, Dixville Notch, votes at midnight on voting day in both the primaries and general election."
[Link: www.businessinsider.com...]
22 | Lidane Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:05:51pm |
Romney replicates McCain's desperate Pennsylvania gambit dailykos.com/story/2012/11/.... Because it worked so well in 2008.— Markos Moulitsas (@markos) November 6, 2012
23 | Targetpractice Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:08:18pm |
re: #20 engineer cat
i'll venture to predict that we won't know who won by midnight pst tomorrow
I'll predict now, based on present polls, that we'll know the EV before midnight, but the popular vote will probably be into Wednesday.
24 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:09:45pm |
Thinking Obama with 50.7% of the popular vote with 300 EVs.
25 | Jaerik Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:12:21pm |
He seems to be factoring each last-minute poll (and there's a lot of them) as they come in, probably running and re-running the simulations. So his prediction percentage is fluttering up and down around 90.5-92.5% depending when you refresh. I've seen both so far.
27 | philosophus invidius Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:14:56pm |
TEA PARTY ALERT: Send this ALL CAPS email to your relatives before they vote: ow.ly/f34o1#WhyImNotVotingForObama— Top Conservative Cat (@TeaPartyCat) November 6, 2012
28 | Targetpractice Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:14:58pm |
Think a better question than when will the media call it is when will Willard concede. My guess is Wednesday morning, when it becomes obvious that there's no room for litigation in enough states to change the winner. Though he might hold out longer if it looks like he might win the popular vote.
29 | Stanghazi Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:15:07pm |
Gov. Scott. My nephew is stationed in Florida and he would like me to tell you, " we don't do this for u to suppress voters" Get it asshole
— Mike Jones (@modrtmike) November 6, 2012
30 | philosophus invidius Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:15:46pm |
re: #28 Targetpractice
"Karl Rove told me I was supposed to win"
31 | Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:18:18pm |
I'm waiting for news of "Whites Only" signs being posted at polling places in Ohio...
32 | Majacita Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:21:33pm |
I can't sleep and I have to get up early, vote, and then go into work. How am I going to make it until midnight tomorrow?
34 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:22:33pm |
36 | Targetpractice Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:24:10pm |
re: #35 jaunte
How does Dick Morris even have a job?
Still riding on his former Clinton cred, pretty much. Turncoats are all the rage in GOP circles.
37 | Lidane Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:24:22pm |
re: #35 jaunte
How does Dick Morris even have a job?
The same way Honey Boo Boo has a TV show. Stupid sells.
38 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:24:43pm |
re: #36 Targetpractice
Still riding on his former Clinton cred, pretty much. Turncoats are all the rage in GOP circles.
Pretty much yeah.
40 | jaunte Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:26:44pm |
re: #33 efuseakay
Ironic. Final national NBC/WSJ poll before Tuesday gives Romney just 47 percent. But, presumably, not THAT 47 percent. @thenation @wegoted
— John Nichols (@NicholsUprising) November 5, 2012
41 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:27:43pm |
re: #40 jaunte
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It would be ironic if he got around 46.9% of the vote. Thinking around 48% myself.
42 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:31:21pm |
re: #3 darthstar
It's down...it went up to 92% earlier. But that was after jumping up from 89% while I was reading the blog.
(By the way, if the paygate is hitting you, delete all cookies with NYTIMES in them and reload the page...but for god's sake don't tell the NY Times about this).
Looking forward to tomorrow's polling results. Those are the ones that count.
I'm going to have to climb a mountain to drop this ballot off tomorrow. I hope they don't announce by the time I get home.
43 | jaunte Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:32:02pm |
Charles P. Pierce:
....American politics has degenerated into a grubby, wretched business. American elections have become a staggering money-drunk mess reeling from one catastrophe to another, culminating in the Panamanian clusterfuck that has been unspooling down here over the last four days, and which will come to a cacophonous crescendo on Election Day, when, I guarantee you, something you absolutely did not think ever was possible here in the World's Greatest Democracy will come blundering out of the swamps and scrub pine to fascinate and horrify us all.
.......
Ultimately, though, there is no other answer to the asinine way we have come to elect a president in this country than to revive the creative spirit of self-government by sheer numbers, to build a political commonwealth the old-fashioned way, by having so many people pitch in on the job that the people trying to get us to give up on the process become broken and dispirited and abandon their own work in despair.[Link: www.esquire.com...]
44 | The Mongoose Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:33:54pm |
re: #41 HappyWarrior
It would be ironic if he got around 46.9% of the vote. Thinking around 48% myself.
I think 48.9 (To Obama's 49.8). Always hard to say how much the 3rd party candidates will get.
45 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:35:35pm |
A family friend posts to Facebook:
Kind of stuck on Prop 31. No movie star called the house with advice on that one.
46 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:37:06pm |
re: #44 The Mongoose
I think 48.9 (To Obama's 49.8). Always hard to say how much the 3rd party candidates will get.
Yeah I don't know how relatively popular Johnson, Goode, and Stein are. Goode has some popularity here in Virginia which I think is underestimated. There was a reason why the state establishment fought hard to keep him off the ballot here.
47 | goddamnedfrank Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:37:26pm |
48 | The Mongoose Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:39:53pm |
re: #46 HappyWarrior
Yeah I don't know how relatively popular Johnson, Goode, and Stein are. Goode has some popularity here in Virginia which I think is underestimated. There was a reason why the state establishment fought hard to keep him off the ballot here.
Which party? The man's belonged to all of them.
49 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:41:03pm |
What I find interesting is no one really outside people with obvious right wing biases is picking Romney to win. That's telling to me. Also when I heard Mark McKinnon and Sam Wang(The Princeton polls dude who was only one EV off last time) talking on NPR on the way home from trivia tonight. Wang seemed much more confident in his predictions and McKinnon just seemed eager to claim that Sandy slowed Romney down and repeated the myth that Wang and Silver both have shown to be untrue that Romney had momentum. Wang conceded Romney had momentum after Denver but showed that he had not had it since the second and third debates.
50 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:42:26pm |
re: #48 The Mongoose
Which party? The man's belonged to all of them.
Constitution. Don't underestimate his popularity in rural Virginia. I'm not suggesting he will even get one percent of the vote here but he could play a big enough role to spoil Virginia.
51 | thecommodore Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:46:56pm |
Obama has now made up all the ground he lost after the first debate and thenslme, and has two of the three states that were in Romney's column back in OBama's. He shows Florida sneaking in, but that may be too generous.
Everyone vote tomorrow. Eapecially if you're from my native Ohio. I fear tea party amd "true the vote" types will attempt hard core suppression. But I think Obama will win because the truth is on his side, and enough people realize what Romney will do to this country.
52 | Kragar Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:48:31pm |
Once Romney gains a lead from the convention, I don't think he's going to relinquish it. #RomneyRyan2012— Dick Morris (@DickMorrisTweet) August 27, 2012
54 | Four More Beers Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:51:02pm |
Social issues DO MATTER. Thank you, Maddow, if you we're straight I would fantasize about sex with you.
56 | Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:51:53pm |
Nate is about the only thing keeping me sane at this point.
Oh, Nate and LGF...
57 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:52:20pm |
re: #54 Summer Lovin' Torture Party
Social issues DO MATTER. Thank you, Maddow, if you we're straight I would fantasize about sex with you.
You can't fantasize about sex with her unless you think she might be into it in reality?
58 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:52:39pm |
re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist
You can't fantasize about sex with her unless you think she might be into it in reality?
I mean, I don't think that holds a lot of male Maddow fans back.
59 | Targetpractice Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:52:56pm |
re: #52 Kragar
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I really do want to see the media, come tomorrow, just look at Dick and go "What's it like being a rocket scientist?"
60 | Joanne Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:55:25pm |
re: #54 Summer Lovin' Torture Party
Social issues DO MATTER. Thank you, Maddow, if you we're straight I would fantasize about sex with you.
It's a fantasy. Does that matter? I'm in list with the guy from Copper. Not gonna happen, oh, but the fantasies! :-)
61 | Joanne Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:57:17pm |
re: #60 Joanne
It's a fantasy. Does that matter? I'm in LUST with the guy from Copper. Not gonna happen, oh, but the fantasies! :-)
One of these days i'l get this iPhone keypad down pat.
62 | The Mongoose Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:58:00pm |
re: #50 HappyWarrior
Constitution. Don't underestimate his popularity in rural Virginia. I'm not suggesting he will even get one percent of the vote here but he could play a big enough role to spoil Virginia.
I meant which establishment was trying to keep him out. Who does he siphon votes from, if anyone?
63 | Four More Beers Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:58:01pm |
Dick Morris is back on heroin. 90% chance of a Romney victory? Dude, you need rehab.
64 | Joanne Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:59:24pm |
RT @marikatogo: RT @huffingtonpost: Dutch newspaper: Bain Capital dodged millions in taxes huff.to/YxpUKO @mittromney— Downward-facingKitty (@as_promised) November 6, 2012
65 | philosophus invidius Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:59:37pm |
re: #63 Summer Lovin' Torture Party
Dixville Notch voting complete: Romney 5, Obama 5. With .0001% of the vote in, Dick Morris says he's "confident of a Romney landslide."— Top Conservative Cat (@TeaPartyCat) November 6, 2012
66 | moderatelyradicalliberal Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:59:39pm |
re: #59 Targetpractice
I really do want to see the media, come tomorrow, just look at Dick and go "What's it like being a rocket scientist?"
If Obama wins there should be whole lot of people out of business and revealed for the con men and women they are, but because the right wing is stupid and stubborn, they will double down and keep making these idiots rich on the wingnut welfare circuit.
I swear if you have no morals or compunctions about separating gullible idiots, both rich and poor from their money their is no better racket than the conservative movement right now. If you can channel fear, bigotry and white resentment you will never go broke. The conservative movement has created a false religion that L. Ron Hubbard would envy.
67 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:59:42pm |
re: #62 The Mongoose
I meant which establishment was trying to keep him out. Who does he siphon votes from, if anyone?
Oh the Republican one.
68 | Kragar Mon, Nov 5, 2012 9:59:52pm |
re: #60 Joanne
It's a fantasy. Does that matter? I'm in list with the guy from Copper. Not gonna happen, oh, but the fantasies! :-)
I'm still waiting for Lucy Lawless to stop by sometime.
70 | moderatelyradicalliberal Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:01:44pm |
re: #66 moderatelyradicalliberal
If Obama wins there should be whole lot of people out of business and revealed for the con men and women they are, but because the right wing is stupid and stubborn, they will double down and keep making these idiots rich on the wingnut welfare circuit.
I swear if you have no morals or compunctions about separating gullible idiots, both rich and poor from their money their is no better racket than the conservative movement right now. If you can channel fear, bigotry and white resentment you will never go broke. The conservative movement has created a false religion that L. Ron Hubbard would envy.
Damnit! I mean there is no better racket.
71 | Four More Beers Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:02:26pm |
Fellow Lizards, regardless of the outcome tomorrow, thank your lucky stars that you're an American and have a voice. A lot of people on this planet don't have that option.
72 | The Mongoose Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:02:44pm |
re: #67 HappyWarrior
Oh the Republican one.
Thanks for the info...didn't even know about that. I currently have Romney winning Virginia in my little meta-model, but by so little that anything could tip it.
73 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:03:13pm |
re: #63 Summer Lovin' Torture Party
Dick Morris is back on heroin. 90% chance of a Romney victory? Dude, you need rehab.
They're trying not to depress the Republican vote. If people think there is a chance, they may go out to vote. And then there may be a chance.
74 | The Mongoose Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:04:59pm |
re: #73 SanFranciscoZionist
They're trying not to depress the Republican vote. If people think there is a chance, they may go out to vote. And then there may be a chance.
Republican intensity is awfully high, and you're right, they're trying to preserve it. I think it will actually make a bit of a difference...I don't think we're going to see the electoral blowout that 538 predicts. But enough to hand Romney a win? Unlikely. A huge win? Extremely unlikely.
75 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:06:24pm |
I see Jonah Goldberg is in a snit about Nate Silver.
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
"Is it possible for human beings to predict events with mathematical models? Surely not. Such powers are not given to mortal men."
However, in the poll attached, 86% of respondents agree that "There is enough statistical evidence available to accurately predict the outcome of the presidential election."
76 | Locker Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:06:38pm |
Nate constantly puts his rep on the line. I don't think he'd have the numbers this high unless he was pretty damn sure.
77 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:07:08pm |
re: #74 The Mongoose
Republican intensity is awfully high, and you're right, they're trying to preserve it. I think it will actually make a bit of a difference...I don't think we're going to see the electoral blowout that 538 predicts. But enough to hand Romney a win? Unlikely. A huge win? Extremely unlikely.
I didn't say there was much of a chance. But the more they can get, the better it looks, the better the chances. So they keep banging the drums. We'd do the same.
78 | Four More Beers Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:07:39pm |
I also predict the tea nuts to go full metal wingnut when Obama wins, continuing the stymie for two years, thus, resulting in a total tidal wave repudiation of these Birch freaks in 2014 once and for all. These wackos made me flee the GOP in 2006, I'm sorry it took that long.
79 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:07:44pm |
It really does feel like 2004 again but on the other side of things. I was certain that Bush would lose because there was no way that anyone that voted against Bush the first time would even consider voting for him a second. I was very wrong about that. I totally underestimated Bush's campaign the same way I think many Republicans underestimate Obama's ground game. They're right that they will have a higher turnout than in 2008 but they're also dead wrong if they think Dem turnout will be so low that they will be able to win especially win big in states that haven't gone Republican since 1988.
80 | Four More Tears Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:08:14pm |
re: #58 SanFranciscoZionist
I mean, I don't think that holds a lot of male Maddow fans back.
You'd be surprised...
81 | Kragar Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:08:44pm |
re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist
I see Jonah Goldberg is in a snit about Nate Silver.
[Link: www.latimes.com...]
"Is it possible for human beings to predict events with mathematical models? Surely not. Such powers are not given to mortal men."
However, in the poll attached, 86% of respondents agree that "There is enough statistical evidence available to accurately predict the outcome of the presidential election."
Obviously not a Hari Seldon fan.
82 | The Mongoose Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:08:46pm |
re: #76 Locker
Nate constantly puts his rep on the line. I don't think he'd have the numbers this high unless he was pretty damn sure.
Well, he doesn't really "choose" to have the numbers this high. The model was built before the election and he feeds it data. Even if he thinks 92% is too high, his methodology wouldn't allow him to change it if he's playing it straight, which I think he is.
83 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:11:00pm |
If Nate was the partisan hack, his right wing detractors want to make him out to be. He would have just said what Democrats and liberals wanted to hear with the Walker recall. Silver being Silver he was honest about that too. I don't know if Obama will win in the electoral landslide he predicts but I do think he's done a good job demonstrating why he thinks that. Much more than the unskewed polls guy who clearly has a grudge against him.
84 | moderatelyradicalliberal Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:15:18pm |
re: #83 HappyWarrior
If Nate was the partisan hack, his right wing detractors want to make him out to be. He would have just said what Democrats and liberals wanted to hear with the Walker recall. Silver being Silver he was honest about that too. I don't know if Obama will win in the electoral landslide he predicts but I do think he's done a good job demonstrating why he thinks that. Much more than the unskewed polls guy who clearly has a grudge against him.
He also accurately predicted that the GOP would pick up 60 seats in the House back in 2010. If he were Dick Morris or just about any other conservative hack he would have lied and said the Democrats were going to pick up seats. At this point the left and right don't just have different ideologies and constituencies, they have different characters.
85 | Locker Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:15:19pm |
re: #82 The Mongoose
Well, he doesn't really "choose" to have the numbers this high. The model was built before the election and he feeds it data. Even if he thinks 92% is too high, his methodology wouldn't allow him to change it if he's playing it straight, which I think he is.
Nice way to ignore context, pick out a word and argue with yourself. My meaning is that he's sure as he can be and would not put out numbers of which he wasn't sure.
86 | moderatelyradicalliberal Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:16:34pm |
Katy Perry's grandma is adorable.
May I exclusively present what might be the cutest photo ever taken: Me, Gma & POTUS! Happy voting tomorrow! twitter.com/katyperry/stat...— Katy Perry (@katyperry) November 6, 2012
87 | Four More Tears Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:16:52pm |
It begins...
President Obama crushes Romney in Hart's Location, New Hampshire
Hart's Location election results @BarackObama 23, @MittRomney 9, @GovGaryJohnson 2 #nhpolitics
— @JamesPindell via TweetDeck
88 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:17:12pm |
re: #84 moderatelyradicalliberal
He also accurately predicted that the GOP would pick up 60 seats in the House back in 2010. If he were Dick Morris or just about any other conservative hack he would have lied and said the Democrats were going to pick up seats. At this point the left and right don't just have different ideologies and constituencies, they have different characters.
Exactly. The spin I see from Republicans and right wingers is that turnout is going to be dramatically in their favor and I just don't see that. I don't deny that they're more enthusiastic than they were four years ago but as I learned in 2004 a base simply hating an opponent isn't enough.
89 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:18:52pm |
Recycled RWNJ meme from 2009 for your viewing pleasure...
Because I want a First Lady who's proud of being an American, regardless of who is President. #WhyImNotVotingForObama— Sean Parnell(@SeanParnellUSA) November 6, 2012
I was just over at NBC and the wingnuts are making a concerted push to dominate the threads tonight. I saw the same old tired shit about Michelle hating America and Black Panthers blocking white people from voting in 2008 at least a hundred times. Sad that they can't even think up any new lies to tell...
90 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:21:05pm |
re: #89 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Recycled RWNJ meme from 2009 for your viewing pleasure...
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I was just over at NBC and the wingnuts are making a concerted push to dominate the threads tonight. I saw the same old tired shit about Michelle hating America and Black Panthers blocking white people from voting in 2008 at least a hundred times. Sad that they can't even think up any new lies to tell...
Yeah fucking lame. The hatred directed Michelle's way is pathetic.
91 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:23:00pm |
By the way, why does Jim Cramer have the most insanely optimistic pro-Democratic pick of any pundit I've seen yet? I mean damn I wouldn't be upset if that happened but it's not happening any more than Dick Morris's crazy prediction.
92 | moderatelyradicalliberal Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:23:26pm |
re: #88 HappyWarrior
Exactly. The spin I see from Republicans and right wingers is that turnout is going to be dramatically in their favor and I just don't see that. I don't deny that they're more enthusiastic than they were four years ago but as I learned in 2004 a base simply hating an opponent isn't enough.
They are more enthusiastic, but I don't see the evidence that Democrats aren't. I see lines with lots of people who don't look like Romney votes waiting to vote. They probably aren't "likely" voters either. And a lot of Democrats are plenty pissed about the last four years. This time we've got love for Obama (and Michelle and the kids and the dog) along with an extra dash of loathing for Romney and the GOP as well. I wasn't repulsed by John McCain. I am repulsed by Romney. Everything about him offends me to my core. Hell I've gotten to point that I can't stand his wife either. I'd argue Democrats have the perfect recipe going for them.
93 | Joanne Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:26:02pm |
Let your racist freak flag fly!
Take a look at this pro-Mitt Romney button being sold at his rally at State Fair Park - tmblr.co/ZLd_RwWijhde— Eric Ferguson (@RYouaTwit) November 6, 2012
94 | JamesWI Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:26:05pm |
re: #89 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Recycled RWNJ meme from 2009 for your viewing pleasure...
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I was just over at NBC and the wingnuts are making a concerted push to dominate the threads tonight. I saw the same old tired shit about Michelle hating America and Black Panthers blocking white people from voting in 2008 at least a hundred times. Sad that they can't even think up any new lies to tell...
Wingnuts seem to truly believe that winning the election comes down to freeping online polls and trolling comment sections 24/7.
95 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:26:06pm |
re: #92 moderatelyradicalliberal
They are more enthusiastic, but I don't see the evidence that Democrats aren't. I see lines with lots of people who don't look like Romney votes waiting to vote. They probably aren't "likely" voters either. And a lot of Democrats are plenty pissed about the last four years. This time we've got love for Obama (and Michelle and the kids and the dog) along with an extra dash of loathing for Romney and the GOP as well. I wasn't repulsed by John McCain. I am repulsed by Romney. Everything about him offends me to my core. Hell I've gotten to point that I can't stand his wife either. I'd argue Democrats have the perfect recipe going for them.
Yep. Really, I don't know if Dem turnout will be as high as it was four years ago but I do think the Dems will have a good turnout tomorrow.
96 | Four More Tears Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:26:17pm |
re: #91 HappyWarrior
By the way, why does Jim Cramer have the most insanely optimistic pro-Democratic pick of any pundit I've seen yet? I mean damn I wouldn't be upset if that happened but it's not happening any more than Dick Morris's crazy prediction.
If you picked stocks by flipping a coin you would would get better results than if you had listened to Kramer. And that's his job. Why are you surprised that his election prediction is nonsense?
97 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:26:42pm |
98 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:27:11pm |
re: #96 Mocking Jay
If you picked stocks by flipping a coin you would would get better results than if you had listened to Kramer. And that's his job. Why are you surprised that his election prediction is nonsense?
I'm actually not that familiar with him aside from Stewart's ridiculing on TDS.
99 | Four More Tears Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:28:02pm |
re: #98 HappyWarrior
I'm actually not that familiar with him aside from Stewart's ridiculing on TDS.
He's a clown.
100 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:30:07pm |
101 | bratwurst Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:37:38pm |
re: #93 Joanne
Let your racist freak flag fly!
[Embedded content]
It's an obvious liberal plant, not a single spelling error! /
102 | JamesWI Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:39:05pm |
re: #101 bratwurst
It's an obvious liberal plant, not a single spelling error! /
We just need to check the back of the pin. If it says Made in China, it was definitely produced by Republicans. If it says "Made in America".....liberal plant
103 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:40:38pm |
re: #98 HappyWarrior
I'm actually not that familiar with him aside from Stewart's ridiculing on TDS.
This is a classic, 11 March 2008...
104 | Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:42:50pm |
re: #94 JamesWI
Wingnuts seem to truly believe that winning the election comes down to freeping online polls and trolling comment sections 24/7.
Well, what else can they do now? The die is cast, and all they have left is making an ass of themselves on the tubes.
105 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:45:40pm |
re: #103 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Bear Stearns got an emergency solvency loan from the Federal reserve the next day and was then sold for $10.00 per share to JP Morgan Chase (it had been trading at $133.00).
106 | Four More Tears Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:48:20pm |
re: #105 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Bear Stearns got an emergency solvency loan from the Federal reserve the next day and was then sold for $10.00 per share to JP Morgan Chase (it had been trading at $133.00).
Like I said. Clown. He is to finance what Bill O'Reilly is to journalism.
107 | Dancing along the light of day Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:48:39pm |
Obama by 20 plus points, if not a landslide, according to my VERY unofficial poll of local (formerly) republican voters! WOOT
108 | Targetpractice Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:49:04pm |
Heh, Chambers seems to have come down a little. Now he's only got Romney winning by 275 electoral votes and 50.6% popular vote. He gave Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and Colorado to Romney to manage that.
For those who haven't kept track, that's down from his last prediction, which was 325 electoral votes and 51%+ of the popular vote. So even using "unskewed polls," he doesn't see a Romney "landslide" in the making.
109 | Four More Tears Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:50:07pm |
re: #107 Dancing along the light of day
Obama by 20 plus points, if not a landslide, according to my VERY unofficial poll of local (formerly) republican voters! WOOT
You mean 20 electoral votes, I hope? Because if he won by 20 points then even I would be worried about voter fraud. ;)
110 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:53:19pm |
re: #107 Dancing along the light of day
Obama by 20 plus points, if not a landslide, according to my VERY unofficial poll of local (formerly) republican voters! WOOT
Yeah, but what is your sampling size, demographic breakdown, and MOE?
/j/k ;)
111 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:53:19pm |
re: #108 Targetpractice
Heh, Chambers seems to have come down a little. Now he's only got Romney winning by 275 electoral votes and 50.6% popular vote. He gave Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and Colorado to Romney to manage that.
For those who haven't kept track, that's down from his last prediction, which was 325 electoral votes and 51%+ of the popular vote. So even using "unskewed polls," he doesn't see a Romney "landslide" in the making.
Not the mark of a guy who's confident in what he's doing if you ask me. Nate and Wang have both been pretty confident in their predictions throughout.
112 | Targetpractice Mon, Nov 5, 2012 10:58:14pm |
re: #111 HappyWarrior
Not the mark of a guy who's confident in what he's doing if you ask me. Nate and Wang have both been pretty confident in their predictions throughout.
That's mostly because Nate and Wang are putting their personal reputations on the line here. Given the odds they've projected for an Obama victory, if he should lose today, then they're pretty much discredited in perpetuum. They have a vested interest in producing predictions that they feel confident in.
113 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:01:18pm |
re: #112 Targetpractice
That's mostly because Nate and Wang are putting their personal reputations on the line here. Given the odds they've projected for an Obama victory, if he should lose today, then they're pretty much discredited in perpetuum. They have a vested interest in producing predictions that they feel confident in.
I missed Nate on Colbert tonight but I caught a little of Dr. Wang on the way home tonight. He sounded very confident in what he was talking about. In contrast with the former Bush campaign aid they had on who sounded like he wanted to spin but even he could admit Obama had an advantage. McKinnon was still being dishonest though when he acted like the Bush team was the underdog going into election day in 2004.
114 | bratwurst Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:01:47pm |
Anyone else notice that the "UnSkewed Polls" guy dialed his prediction WAY WAY back?
[Link: unskewedpolls.com...]
Maybe he wants to have more credibility than Dick Morris 24 hours from now?
116 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:11:07pm |
A "Commentary" by Michael Barone at Rasmussen Reports (yes the polling guys).
Going Out on a Limb: Romney Beats Obama, Handily
Fundamentals usually prevail in American elections. That's bad news for Barack Obama. True, Americans want to think well of their presidents, and many think it would be bad if Americans were perceived as rejecting the first black president.
But it's also true that most voters oppose Obama's major policies and consider unsatisfactory the very sluggish economic recovery -- Friday's job report showed an unemployment uptick....
...Bottom line: Romney 315, Obama 223...
117 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:14:19pm |
re: #116 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
A "Commentary" by Michael Barone at Rasmussen Reports (yes the polling guys).
Nice subtle job of getting ready "They only voted to keep in him office because they didn't want to look racist," Can't wait for him to be proven very wrong.
118 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:15:07pm |
re: #116 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Eeeeeeeeeek not helping neither is my first time watching Backdraft wow as a pyrophobe I am in awe
119 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:17:49pm |
re: #118 DisturbedEma
Eeeeeeeeeek not helping neither is my first time watching Backdraft wow as a pyrophobe I am in awe
No worries, Rasmussen is always pro-republican, nothing new here, it doesn't mean anything because they really don't have any credibility anymore.
120 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:19:08pm |
re: #119 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
thanks for this watching this cheesy but scare inducing movie is not helping:)
121 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:19:20pm |
re: #119 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
No worries, Rasmussen is always pro-republican, nothing new here, it doesn't mean anything because they really don't have any credibility anymore.
Doesn't Rassmusen work for Romney even? I also if I recall 2010 right think they had Angle beating Reid.
122 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:20:44pm |
Have the utmost respect for those who go toward gunfire (like my brothers) and those who go to fires!!!!
123 | engineer cat Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:20:45pm |
what's all this i hear about there being a lot of steaks in this election?
these candidates should watch their chlorestoral
124 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:23:59pm |
125 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:26:43pm |
Seriously how have in ever seen backdraft before now???
127 | Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:27:25pm |
re: #119 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
No worries, Rasmussen is always pro-republican, nothing new here, it doesn't mean anything because they really don't have any credibility anymore.
That's not even based on Rassmussen polling, it's just some guy* saying "I think the election will turn out like this because fundamentals + death panels X blackity black black". Feel free to ignore it or mock it as you see fit.
*More specifically, this guy: Michael Barone, senior political analyst for The Washington Examiner, is a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a Fox News Channel contributor and a co-author of The Almanac of American Politics.
128 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:31:09pm |
I'm not a drinker but daaaaamn there is not enough alcohol for a Romney world!!!!!
129 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:32:12pm |
Daaaaaaaaaaamn Kurt Russell just died in this movie!
130 | Ben G. Hazi Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:33:52pm |
re: #125 DisturbedEma
Seriously how have in ever seen backdraft before now???
Russell, (William) Baldwin, Glenn, DeNiro, J.T. Walsh, Sutherland.
Great movie.
131 | Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:35:23pm |
re: #129 DisturbedEma
Daaaaaaaaaaamn Kurt Russell just died in this movie!
Remember to check if any doors are hot before you open them tomorrow.
132 | Ben G. Hazi Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:36:52pm |
re: #131 Sophist, Gingham Style (AKA Bronco Bama)
Remember to check if any doors are hot before you open them tomorrow.
I always liked DeNiro's take on fire in the movie, because I think there's some truth to it: that fire is a living thing (of sorts).
133 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:36:59pm |
*Spoiler*
Axe is the arsonist.
*spoiler*
Of course if Kurt Russell is dead you already know that part... ;)
135 | freetoken Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:37:20pm |
On this election eve, for your education and motivation, from a 1939 CBS program Wings Over Jordan:
"The Place of the Negro Woman in American Life":
136 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:38:26pm |
re: #132 MittDoesNotCompute
When he is talking to the fire?? whoa but Sutherland? Creeeeepy!
137 | Ben G. Hazi Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:38:29pm |
re: #134 DisturbedEma
Wow the funeral is POWERFUL
Yeah, Bruce Hornsby's "The Show Must Go On" that plays at the end is one of my favorite songs of his.
138 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:39:16pm |
re: #133 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Ya got that:)
139 | John Q Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:40:18pm |
re: #24 HappyWarrior
Thinking Obama with 50.7% of the popular vote with 300 EVs.
I'll see your 300 and raise you 12.
140 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:40:38pm |
re: #137 MittDoesNotCompute
With the imagery of the full dress firemen? Hell ya
142 | HappyWarrior Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:43:44pm |
re: #139 John Q
Thinking Obama with 50.7% of the popular vote with 300 EVs.
I'll see your 300 and raise you 12.
Wouldn't complain with that. Stoked if he wins Florida which is the one I really don't feel too comfortable with picking for him but there's always a possibility that I am underestimating his support there.
143 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:45:54pm |
I realize I'm a distraction now sorry but which Baldwin bro is this?
144 | Cheechako Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:46:18pm |
re: #134 DisturbedEma
Wow the funeral is POWERFUL
Fire and Police Departments certainly know how to accomplish spectacular funerals and memorial services. Unfortunately there are too many.
145 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:47:27pm |
re: #144 Cheechako
Yes my brothers attend far too many in a year:(
146 | freetoken Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:47:57pm |
While going through the Archives, this little editorial by none other than William Randolph Hearst (as read by one of his puppets) sounds suspiciously like the GOP talking points in 2012:
How things change - not.
147 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:48:44pm |
148 | Kruk Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:49:25pm |
Just because I need something other than the election results to stress out about over the next 24 hours...
Why I am I seeing singles ads everywhere I go? Does the Internet know something about my future marital status that I don't?
PS: As I type that, I realise how similar the words marital and martial are now...
149 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:51:02pm |
White gloves very official for those that dirty their hands to serve and protect
150 | Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:51:31pm |
I got work all day on Wednesday so I cannot afford to sit up all night here in Germany (where East Coast results don't start coming in until 1am) to get the final word.
Guess I will just plan on waking up early to hear the final returns.
151 | Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:52:08pm |
re: #148 Kruk
PS: As I type that, I realise how similar the words marital and martial are now...
A pretty girl is like a malady...
153 | DisturbedEma Mon, Nov 5, 2012 11:53:37pm |
Is this a Ron Howard movie??? Seems like him ala Apollo 13
156 | sagehen Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:04:35am |
re: #115 DisturbedEma
Shit can't sleep how you all doing?
4 hours until the polls open in my lobby...
157 | DisturbedEma Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:04:36am |
Shit got to get the babies off to school in5 hours night all Backdraft was a pretty cool movie
159 | DisturbedEma Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:09:20am |
Guess this will be a night for the future grandkids "where were you Bubbe, on election eve 2012?"
160 | DisturbedEma Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:10:20am |
Was with mostly same peeps thanks to Charles Johnson
162 | engineer cat Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:12:06am |
goodbye poll websites
i have visited you many times daily seeking foreknowledge and insight
woefully you have failed to agree, spreading confusion and miasma
but i continued to parse your internals relentlessly just the same like a crazed kabbalist
now i will look at you one last time
and henceforth you will suffer oblivion oblivion oblivion
163 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:16:53am |
re: #152 DisturbedEma
Want my email? I'll hook you up
I can get all the Intenet linkys I want, that is not the issue, I am just too old to stay up until 5am and still be fully functional the next day.
I did that in 2008, although I could've gone to bed once the Midwest Time Zone states had reported, I just wanted to see the pained expressions Fox News announcers' faces when they were finally compelled to throw in the towel...
164 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:20:58am |
re: #162 engineer cat
goodbye poll websites
i have visited you many times daily seeking foreknowledge and insight
woefully you have failed to agree, spreading confusion and miasma
but i continued to parse your internals relentlessly just the same like a crazed kabbalist
now i will look at you one last time
and henceforth you will suffer oblivion oblivion oblivion
I have resolved, once the results of this election are in, to kick back and spend less time here, and more of that in Spy Mode...gonna take a break from political blogging.
166 | JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:25:16am |
re: #164 AK-47%
I have resolved, once the results of this election are in, to kick back and spend less time here, and more of that in Spy Mode...gonna take a break from political blogging.
Oh come on! (Assuming all the polls aren't completely wrong), it will be loads of fun now. Political blogging will mostly consist of drinking the tears of the rabid wingnuts convinced by Fox News that they had no need to worry, EVERYONE hates Obama and thinks he's an evil foreigner! Landslide!
It's like you decided to join political blogging for the absolute worst part and don't want to stick around for the rewards!
167 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:29:34am |
re: #166 JamesWI
Oh come on! (Assuming all the polls aren't completely wrong), it will be loads of fun now. Political blogging will mostly consist of drinking the tears of the rabid wingnuts convinced by Fox News that they had no need to worry, EVERYONE hates Obama and thinks he's an evil foreigner! Landslide!
It's like you decided to join political blogging for the absolute worst part and don't want to stick around for the rewards!
Nah, need a break. I will still be looking in, just not contributing as much.
169 | freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:42:51am |
Harken back to 1948:
Wallace left his editorship position in 1948 to make an unsuccessful run as a Progressive Party candidate in the 1948 U.S. presidential election. With Idaho Democratic U.S. Senator Glen H. Taylor as his running mate, his platform advocated friendly relations with the Soviet Union, an end to the nascent Cold War, an end to segregation, full voting rights for blacks, and universal government health insurance. His campaign was unusual for his time in that it included African American candidates campaigning alongside white candidates in the American South, and that during the campaign he refused to appear before segregated audiences or eat or stay in segregated establishments.
[...]
Wallace suffered a decisive defeat in the election to the Democratic incumbent Harry S. Truman. He finished in fourth place with 2.4% of the popular vote. Dixiecrat presidential candidate Strom Thurmond outstripped Wallace in the popular vote. Thurmond managed to carry several states in the Deep South, gaining 39 electoral votes to Wallace's electoral total of zero.
And that explains why this years GOP nomination and campaign of Romney went like it did.
170 | JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:45:22am |
Oh dear lord, I hope Obama really does win.....
......If only to see the look on Sean Hannity's face as the results come pouring in. It will be beautiful. I'll have to record it on Tivo and watch it every day.
171 | Kruk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:49:25am |
re: #170 JamesWI
Oh dear lord, I hope Obama really does win.....
......If only to see the look on Sean Hannity's face as the results come pouring in. It will be beautiful. I'll have to record it on Tivo and watch it every day.
I challenge all you video makers out there to subtitle Mitt's 'Downfall'. You know you want to.
172 | researchok Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:52:27am |
173 | JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 12:56:44am |
re: #171 Kruk
I challenge all you video makers out there to subtitle Mitt's 'Downfall'. You know you want to.
"All of you, except Dick Morris and Unskewedpolls guy, get out."
174 | Kruk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:00:36am |
re: #173 JamesWI
"All of you, except Dick Morris and Unskewedpolls guy, get out."
In my version:
"Anyone who warned pairing a Medicare voucherizing tyro with a job outsourcing corporate raider in the middle of the worst recession in living memory was a bad idea can leave now."
Also, to the crying girl:
"Cheer up. We all have pundit gigs with Fox for the next four years".
175 | JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:02:08am |
Regardless of who wins, I'm sure there will be a record number of "Downfall" videos made after this election.
Of course, they will be much funnier if Obama wins, because it's a proven, scientific fact that conservatives are almost impossibly bad at comedy.
176 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:04:47am |
re: #175 JamesWI
Regardless of who wins, I'm sure there will be a record number of "Downfall" videos made after this election.
Of course, they will be much funnier if Obama wins, because it's a proven, scientific fact that conservatives are almost impossibly bad at comedy.
Humor is not about demonstrating ideological purity or bludgeoning the audience with your message. Which is what modern conservatism has come to these days...
177 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:10:31am |
Arrgghhh...can we all just agree to stop calling things "???-gate." It has become a joke, and a worn out and unfunny one at that, for the sake of everyones sanity can't we just retire the "gate" suffix?
If I read one more RWNJ article where the writer uses "Benghazigate" I really think I am going to scream...
178 | JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:10:51am |
Are there any legitimately funny conservative comedians out there? I mean, their standard bearers seem to be Dennis Miller, Larry the Cable Guy, and....um.....Adam Carolla?
...LOL. I just searched "Conservative Comedians" on Google, and the first result......Breitbart.com article titled "Debunking Liberal Myths About Conservative Comedy"
It's just as whiny as you'd expect.
179 | freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:12:50am |
re: #178 JamesWI
Last one was Bob Hope, and he stopped being funny after Nixon.
180 | JamesWI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:13:15am |
re: #177 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Arrgghhh...can we all just agree to stop calling things "???-gate." It has become a joke, and a worn out and unfunny one at that, for the sake of everyones sanity can't we just retire the "gate" suffix?
If I read one more RWNJ article where the writer uses Benghazigate I really think I am going to scream...
Complaining-about-the-use-of-"gate"-in-reference-to-scandals-gate.
181 | freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:13:37am |
Hope being "conservative" in the traditional Republican sense, not in the re-branded Dixiecrat sense.
182 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:28:24am |
183 | researchok Tue, Nov 6, 2012 1:31:31am |
re: #182 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
I think they call that a reality check.
185 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 2:17:45am |
187 | DisturbedEma Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:37:36am |
re: #168 researchok
have not slept, can't grrr fucking election:) morning:)
188 | DisturbedEma Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:38:50am |
Just saw Backdraft for the first time ever- wow as someone who has feared fire her whole life wow! Even cheesy this was cool:)
189 | DisturbedEma Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:40:02am |
Taking my 18 year old to vote for his very first election today Big deal:)
190 | freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:43:08am |
The NYT does the MBF dance:
191 | DisturbedEma Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:46:13am |
almost time to get the kids up and off to school, go vote with me and my 18 year old then maybe a nap to rest up for tonight. . . could not sleep- just kept tossing and turning.. . my partner was restless so I got up and watched movies. . .oh LORD please save us from the insanity that is fundamentalism!
193 | freetoken Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:49:35am |
re: #192 Kronocide
Frankly, the writer covering the story sounds quite ignorant of what he is covering, and any watcher of either MSNBC or Fox News will know a heck of a lot more about what is going on both outlets than that NYT journalist.
194 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:52:28am |
Dem polls, dem polls, off to watch dem polls...
195 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:54:33am |
re: #190 freetoken
The NYT does the MBF dance:
Ahem...
The greater disparity was on MSNBC, which gave Mr. Romney positive coverage just 3 percent of the time, Pew found. It examined 259 segments about Mr. Romney and found that 71 percent were negative.
OK fine, you tell me, what exactly is there is positive to report about Romney? That he is nicely dressed and very distinguished looking for a pandering pathological liar?
196 | Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:56:06am |
re: #96 Mocking Jay
If you picked stocks by flipping a coin you would would get better results than if you had listened to Kramer. And that's his job. Why are you surprised that his election prediction is nonsense?
I don't think he was serious he was trying to piss off the wingnut he works with, he does that from time to time.
197 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 3:59:29am |
I just voted up a storm in that place. They were all like "What?" And I was like "Imma vote" and they said "Voter card?" and I'm like "Shit yeah voter card here" and then we high-fived and during the explosion I filled out my ballot and the scantron verified my votes and I was able to confirm the choices were correct. It was pretty rad.
Another nice thing is that in New York State the same candidate can appear under different parties. So I was able to vote the Working Families party and still vote for Obama et al.
[Link: www.workingfamiliesparty.org...]
198 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:02:27am |
I bet you cry...
199 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:03:55am |
I was up at 5AM yesterday morning, got a nap between noon and 2:30. The had to work 10PM to 6 this morning. Me tired.
And Morning Honcos.
200 | Kronocide Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:04:16am |
re: #193 freetoken
Frankly, the writer covering the story sounds quite ignorant of what he is covering, and any watcher of either MSNBC or Fox News will know a heck of a lot more about what is going on both outlets than that NYT journalist.
Hey look, bias.
According to the writer's metrics stories about Romney flip flopping are equivalent to Benghazi-gate. False narratives are equivalent to real stories. Not so brazen as a Big Lie, much more subtle and truthyish.
201 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:05:03am |
re: #199 Cannadian Club Akbar
If I ever start a real business with actual employees, I will hire you, dog. You work like I used to before I got all consultant-lazy.
202 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:06:09am |
And hopefully it's clear that was a respectful 'dog'.
203 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:07:13am |
re: #201 Obdicut
If I ever start a real business with actual employees, I will hire you, dog. You work like I used to before I got all consultant-lazy.
I could sleep right now but need to make a phone call about a regular job at 8:30. And I need to go to the bank today, then work at 10 again.
204 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:07:16am |
re: #199 Cannadian Club Akbar
I was up at 5AM yesterday morning, got a nap between noon and 2:30. The had to work 10PM to 6 this morning. Me tired.
And Morning Honcos.
feh ,, just arrived for the 1st of 4 in a row 14 hour days (minimum) !!!
205 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:10:36am |
re: #203 Cannadian Club Akbar
I could sleep right now but need to make a phone call about a regular job at 8:30. And I need to go to the banks today, then work at 10 again.
I used to be a bartender and waiter at two places owned by the same people. I'd work the Saturday double shift, opening the bar at noon and closing it down at 2:30-3 AM. Then I'd go home, crash, and be at the restaurant at 7:00 AM to start the prep work for brunch, then work there as the closer at midnight because the manager knew even if I was tired I'd close properly. Kinda sucked because there's basically no tips in those last couple of hours but it was worth it because the manager was a cool guy and it kept me on his good side.
206 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:10:45am |
re: #204 sattv4u2
feh ,, just arrived for the 1st of 4 in a row 14 hour days (minimum) !!!
I know I'll be sleeping on the couch in the conference room at some point tonight/ early tomorrow a.m.
Senseless to be here for 14+ hours, drive home for an hour and 15 minutes, drive back an hour and 15 to spend another 14 + here. May just as well use that extra 2 1/2 hours to nap
207 | Flounder Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:11:29am |
I always love the morning of Election Day, and then it is all downhill. 15 minutes into the polls opening in NY, I was number 16, not bad.
208 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:13:33am |
re: #206 sattv4u2
Do you have a TV in the conference room?
/
209 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:16:48am |
I voted so hard that I just elected Paul Tsongas.#p2 #tlot #tcot #vote #VotedSoHardThat— Tom Benson (@TamOBedlam) November 6, 2012
210 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:17:12am |
re: #208 Cannadian Club Akbar
Do you have a TV in the conference room?
/
A mini video wall, similar to the one here in the control room (pictured on the right)
211 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:18:30am |
re: #210 sattv4u2
A mini video wall, similar to the one here in the control room (pictured on the right)
Fuck. I go to my local sports bar and my neck hurts from that.
212 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:20:27am |
re: #211 Cannadian Club Akbar
Fuck. I go to my local sports bar and my neck hurts from that.
heh,, thats just the main wall
We have smaller versions to the left and right also, not to mention 5 individual monitoring stations
My head is on a constant swivel checking it all out
213 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:22:10am |
I got me some BC glasses. They actually work on me.
214 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:22:45am |
re: #207 Shropshire_Slasher
I always love the morning of Election Day, and then it is all downhill. 15 minutes into the polls opening in NY, I was number 16, not bad.
Early voted last week
Polling place opened at 09:00. I arrived at 07:30. I was 50th in line
215 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:23:06am |
216 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:25:09am |
re: #214 sattv4u2
Early voted last week
Polling place opened at 09:00. I arrived at 07:30. I was 50th in line
I voted by mail. I was second waiting for the mailman behind a Pugh.
/
217 | KiTA Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:27:21am |
In other news, True the Vote found to have forged signatures en mass to get "observers" at polling places:
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
And Jon Husted caught putting illegal software on voting machines:
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
Either the GOP has all their illegal eggs in one basket this time in trying to steal Ohio, or we're just not hearing about them doing these kind of illegal shenanigans in other swing states.
Either way, It's really sick that this has become SOP for them. Even more sick is the fact that Jon Husted will never, ever face any punishment for all this blatant Electoral Fraud.
218 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:34:18am |
re: #216 Cannadian Club Akbar
I voted by mail. I was second waiting for the mailman behind a Pugh.
/
Florida accepts absentee ballots with POSTAGE DUE??
/
219 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:35:31am |
re: #218 sattv4u2
Florida accepts absentee ballots with POSTAGE DUE??
/
Yes. I also made it rain in Tampa today.:)
220 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:36:25am |
re: #195 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Ahem...
OK fine, you tell me, what exactly is there is positive to report about Romney? That he is nicely dressed and very distinguished looking for a pandering pathological liar?
Is "negativity" an absolute value that can be measured in some sort of unit? This is as bad as the "fact checkers" for whom "truth" is something that can be measured in terms of Pinocchios or flaming legwear.
221 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:38:34am |
re: #219 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yes. I also made it rain in Tampa today.:)
Raining on the other side of the bay too, icky weather for folks standing in line. :(
222 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:45:22am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I'm sure a whole lot of crazy stories are going to come out today about voter fraud and other such stuff, particularly in disaster-struck areas, but note that most of these reports will end up never being substantiated and are nothing more than attempts to sway votes.
I wont be watching news reports during the day other than those reporting on disaster recovery. NYC metro is very slowly getting back in gear, and mass transit is lurching ahead in fits and starts, especially in NJ.
NJ Transit has done a miserable job of restoring service, and the Port Authority has done even worse, though they'll claim that their equipment was even worse off due to the flooding. Tell that to the MTA, which got multiple lines up and running in less time than one could reasonably expect to happen when flood prevention isn't a priority in the system (and it should). South Ferry and several other Lower Manhattan stations are still shuttered, but there is service to Lower Manhattan.
There's no PATH to WTC or Hoboken, and no ETA on when that will be restored. They're talking unprecedented damage at both stations, plus other locations on the system. Maybe they need to talk to the MTA on how to get things cleared up. The MTA had more track and more flooding, and yet got things going again.
At the same time, NJ Transit can't handle the volume of passengers so they suspended service due to the crush of people yesterday on the rails. That's what you get when you get a 1/3 of the normal trains running and expect people to try and get around. Buses are overcrowded. Mrs. Lawhawk had to wait for 5 buses before she found one with a seat (standing when you face delays at the Lincoln tunnel could mean you're on your feet for an hour or more - on a bus that lurches this way and that - not exactly the safest thing). More bus service is needed, but the Port Authority Bus Terminal can't handle the existing load and it most certainly can't handle even more buses. That too is on the Port Authority.
So, as far as transit goes, NJ Transit and PATH are getting failing grades, while MTA is getting As across the board. It's light night and day, and Gov. Christie needs to deal with that accordingly.
Speaking of governors, I'd like to see Gov. Cuomo adopt the even-odd gas plan in NY to help alleviate the lines, which he also attributes to hoarding. Lines are substantially less in NJ, but not quite normal as power is still a major issue in large parts of the area. That's on the utilities to fix - and Gov. Cuomo has been slamming the utilities in NY for being slow especially outside Manhattan. Let's see that tough talk translate into more than just talk. Hold them accountable.
223 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:45:35am |
Wheeee! Election Day! UK contingent checking in!
Jimmah took tomorrow off so we can stay up late tonight and watch the returns with all you good people. I'm so excited I can't stand it!
224 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:49:01am |
re: #223 The Left
Wheeee! Election Day! UK contingent checking in!
Jimmah took tomorrow off so we can stay up late tonight and watch the returns with all you good people. I'm so excited I can't stand it!
Afraid I cannot take the day off, will just have to wake up early and hope that the dust has already settled enough to see the outlines of the winner...
225 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:50:30am |
re: #217 KiTA
The end justifies the means! You dare to complain about True the Vote forging election documents? That is a small thing compared to all the millions and millions of democrats we know are voting multiple times in multiple states in between driving busloads of illegal aliens to the polls to vote under the name of my dead grandfather!
THEY MUST BE STOPPED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY, THEY ARE GOING TO STEAL THE 2012 ELECTION JUST LIKE THEY DID 2008 IF WE DON'T STOP THEM!!!11!1
226 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:51:22am |
re: #222 lawhawk
Sorry to hear that NJ is more messed up than NYC. The storm has shown the fragility of our infrastructure, and we should remember that this is the New Normal. This may have been an especially severe storm, but more is coming in the years ahead and we need to prepare.
As for voter fraud, there most concerning part is the actions of Ohio's sec of state in voter repression, and the True The Vote morons both planning voter intimidation and forging signatures.
227 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:54:19am |
re: #224 AK-47%
Afraid I cannot take the day off, will just have to wake up early and hope that the dust has already settled enough to see the outlines of the winner...
Oh bummer! I forget where you're located-- Germany? Apologies if I got it wrong.
I've been telling Jimmah for two years that he'd have to take tomorrow off, so he took this job with the understanding that he'd have tomorrow off. he'll be working thanksgiving though.
228 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:54:51am |
Off to vote.
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Ron Paul Benghazi!!!!
229 | Flounder Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:57:24am |
Bob Dylan predicts Obama 'in a landslide'
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Wish I was there, that crowd must have went through the roof!
230 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:58:54am |
Good morning Lizardia!
The UAW guys have the day off today, but we contract workers still have to come in. I voted before coming in to work. I got to the middle school and the parking lot was only about 1/3 full. I went inside and HOLY CRAP the line stretched from one end of the hallway to the other (but this was only because the polls hadn't opened yet).
Once the polls opened, they split up the voters by precinct and I received a ballot right away, then it only took about 10 minutes. I was the 11th voter to cast a ballot in my precinct.
231 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:58:59am |
re: #221 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Raining on the other side of the bay too, icky weather for folks standing in line. :(
Raining here in Atlanta (and burbs) also
232 | Severus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 4:59:41am |
This sort of analysis is driving conservatives to the edge with cries of conspiracy and liberal bias only because it does not fit their fantasy world view wherin Romney is leading huge. Silver could be right on with his predictions and they sttill will not be accepted. Funnyy thing is if the names were reversed the conservatives would be hailing Romney's chances and using Silvers analysis as rock solid proof of the dominance of Romney.
233 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:00:25am |
Every "I voted" message gets a ding today if I see it. Yes, even Republicans!
FREE KARMA! SUPPORT DEMOCRACY! GO USA!
234 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:00:52am |
re: #227 The Left
Oh bummer! I forget where you're located-- Germany? Apologies if I got it wrong.
I've been telling Jimmah for two years that he'd have to take tomorrow off, so he took this job with the understanding that he'd have tomorrow off. he'll be working thanksgiving though.
I sat up late in 2008, did not even have to after the Midwest results were in, I just wanted to see the pained expressions on the Fox News announcers when they were finally compelled to throw in the towel.
235 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:01:39am |
I'm "watching" on the BBC News website. They've got a live blog going on, plus live videos when appropriate.
Here it is 9 pm. I'm not sure now long I'm going to stay up, since results probably won't be in until morning my time. (GMT+8)
236 | ninja cat Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:01:39am |
re: #221 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Raining on the other side of the bay too, icky weather for folks standing in line. :(
Raining in the 'burg too, but lightening up at the moment. Maybe would be a good time to drive by my polling place & donate a few spare umbrellas I have.
237 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:03:34am |
re: #233 iossarian
Every "I voted" message gets a ding today if I see it. Yes, even Republicans!
FREE KARMA! SUPPORT DEMOCRACY! GO USA!
:( ,, but,, But ,, BUT ,, I VOTED last week!?!? Did I miss my ding??
//
238 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:05:54am |
Lord, I pray that within two weeks my spam folder won't be full.
Love,
CCA
239 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:07:11am |
re: #238 Cannadian Club Akbar
Lord, I pray that within two weeks my spam folder won't be full.
Love,
CCA
Lightly grilled, with eggs over easy please
240 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:07:18am |
re: #233 iossarian
Every "I voted" message gets a ding today if I see it. Yes, even Republicans!
FREE KARMA! SUPPORT DEMOCRACY! GO USA!
I voted absentee last week.
241 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:07:19am |
WASH-POST-POLL: Obama Has Solid Lead Among Jewish Voters. Why? bit.ly/ST3pfl— Yossi Gestetner (@YossiGestetner) November 6, 2012
WHY YOU ASK? WHY???
For this Jewish voter, the #1 issue: GM is alive. (Yes we can actually vote on issues not related to Israel)
242 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:08:29am |
243 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:08:38am |
Good Morning folks,
Just a quick hello before I leave for the Polling Place to work a shift helping people vote. I did my ballot a couple of weeks ago so my vote is in. Now it's time for everyone else in this small town. Our population is ~2500, so that probably means about 1500 possible voters and we have ~ 200 early votes cast.
Take care folks, vote if you haven't already & see you this evening.
244 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:08:56am |
re: #235 wheat-dogg
I'm "watching" on the BBC News website. They've got a live blog going on, plus live videos when appropriate.
Here it is 9 pm. I'm not sure now long I'm going to stay up, since results probably won't be in until morning my time. (GMT+8)
There will not be anything remotely informative here in the U.S. for at least another 13-14 hours (9:00-10:00pm EST). Depending on how close things are it could be much longer than that...
245 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:10:24am |
re: #237 sattv4u2
:( ,, but,, But ,, BUT ,, I VOTED last week!?!? Did I miss my ding??
//
Not a bit of it! No ding last week means a ding now!
246 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:10:44am |
re: #244 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Yup, I know. That'll be around 10-11 am here tomorrow.
247 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:12:37am |
Good Morning Lizardia!
Cold this morning in Philadelphia - 30s!
Voted already. Took about 15 minutes of waiting in line with about 5 of those minutes indoors. I was 47th to vote in the precinct, and the senior citizens running the polling place were their normal and energetic selves.
A few observations:
1. They moved the actual polling place from the lobby of the apartment building into a vacant shop kiosk on the arcade. A bit more cramped for space, and the line going in and people going out have to fit through a single doorway of standard width. Plus the line length forced to wait outdoors is quite a bit longer than using the lobby.
2. Since this was before 8am most of the voters were people stopping to vote on the way to work. Younger crowd, and quite a few who are voting in this ward for the first time.
3. No one was asked for ID. That was because everyone brought it and already had it out and ready to go. Saw mainly DL, but also military ID, US passports, and even US passport cards used.
4. Saw four people not listed on the rolls and thus asked to step aside and fill out a provisional ballot. From the questions I overheard most of them registered on-line in the last month or so. Oddly enough the three black voters in line all ended up not being on the rolls. I think this was happenstance and not a sign of something systematic.
I hope everyone else who has not voted takes advantage to carry out their civic duty and no issues doing so.
(Oh, who did I vote for? The right candidate! :) )
248 | Flounder Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:16:15am |
So I have this recurring rash on my right hand,between the middle and ring finger. Every time I think I should make an appt. for the Dr., it clears up. Now my wife has a rash on her right breast, Coincidence?
249 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:17:23am |
re: #248 Shropshire_Slasher
So I have this recurring rash on my right hand,between the middle and ring finger. Every time I think I should make an appt. for the Dr., it clears up. Now my wife has a rash on her right breast, Coincidence?
must ,,, resist,,,,, the ,,,,, urge,,, to,,,,,,,, comment,,,,,,,
250 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:17:30am |
re: #247 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Good Morning Lizardia!
Cold this morning in Philadelphia - 30s!
Voted already. Took about 15 minutes of waiting in line with about 5 of those minutes indoors. I was 47th to vote in the precinct, and the senior citizens running the polling place were their normal and energetic selves.
A few observations:
4. Saw four people not listed on the rolls and thus asked to step aside and fill out a provisional ballot. From the questions I overheard most of them registered on-line in the last month or so. Oddly enough the three black voters in line all ended up not being on the rolls. I think this was happenstance and not a sign of something systematic.
There is a systemic reason why republicans support efforts to limit early voting and restrict online voting and registration. Just sayin'.
251 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:18:32am |
re: #248 Shropshire_Slasher
So I have this recurring rash on my right hand,between the middle and ring finger. Every time I think I should make an appt. for the Dr., it clears up. Now my wife has a rash on her right breast, Coincidence?
If it were her left breast I'd say not. :)
252 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:18:59am |
re: #249 sattv4u2
must ,,, resist,,,,, the ,,,,, urge,,, to,,,,,,,, comment,,,,,,,
I had a similar thing, it was some fungus that lived and bred under my wedding ring. Cleared up since the divorce...
253 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:21:57am |
re: #252 AK-47%
I had a similar thing, it was some fungus that lived and bred under my wedding ring. Cleared up since the divorce...
Wanna know what kills a woman's sex drive away? Wedding cake.:)
254 | Mattand Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:22:30am |
re: #247 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Good Morning Lizardia!
Cold this morning in Philadelphia - 30s!
Voted already. Took about 15 minutes of waiting in line with about 5 of those minutes indoors. I was 47th to vote in the precinct, and the senior citizens running the polling place were their normal and energetic selves.
A few observations:
3. No one was asked for ID. That was because everyone brought it and already had it out and ready to go. Saw mainly DL, but also military ID, US passports, and even US passport cards used.
So people were showing ID voluntarily? Personally, if it were me, I'd refuse. I wonder if many PA residents are still under the impression that it's mandatory.
255 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:23:43am |
re: #253 Cannadian Club Akbar
Wanna know what kills a woman's sex drive away? Wedding cake.:)
HA! good one, CCA. It's nice to see you!
PS Jimmah and I didn't have a wedding cake-- full disclosure. :)
256 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:24:16am |
The Bridge Troll had shills swarming outside the polling stations to urge voters to vote YES on Proposal 6 (which has no purpose other than to squash competition for the Troll).
I VOTED NO on 6, FUCK YOU MATTY MOROUN.
257 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:24:35am |
re: #253 Cannadian Club Akbar
Wanna know what kills a woman's sex drive away? Wedding cake.:)
Not if you use it right.
258 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:24:48am |
re: #253 Cannadian Club Akbar
Wanna know what kills a woman's sex drive away? Wedding cake.:)
Yunno, sex was the least interesting part of our relationship, we just dug each other a lot, played music together, travelled, went hiking, running, did things in the house and garden together. I assumed the sex would get better over time. Not only did it fail to get any better, everything else ceased being fun, too...
Four kids and a massive mortgage later.
259 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:25:14am |
260 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:26:41am |
re: #259 Cannadian Club Akbar
Has been a while.
How have you been? I think you started a new job? I haven't really been around much but I also haven't seen you in the usual morning hours.
261 | Flounder Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:28:05am |
re: #257 iossarian
A happy marriage is determined by how far you can shove wedding cake up your spouses nose!
262 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:28:32am |
Oh, and one more gripe on behalf of folks who still have no power or heat in the NYC metro area. It's frakking cold out. The power can't get restored fast enough.
I remember when Katrina hit, and there was a concern when the temps would drop into the 50s that people might suffer.
Hey, we're talking about the 20s here. It was in the mid-20s in Bergen County this morning. That's frakking cold for someone who doesn't have power in their home. It'll get real cold in a house with no power real quick. And that's if the house is intact; it'll be even colder in homes that have damage.
Apartments that lost power and got them back yesterday still arent out of the woods since it takes time for the heat to come back to comfortable levels - and ConEd in Manhattan isn't running steam to some areas as it tries to get things back.
263 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:29:19am |
re: #261 Shropshire_Slasher
A happy marriage is determined by how far you can shove wedding cake up your spouses nose!
*blinks, looks perplexed*
264 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:29:22am |
re: #261 Shropshire_Slasher
A happy marriage is determined by how far you can shove wedding cake up your spouses nose!
Best advice dad gave me on my wedding day
"Son, make sure you always get the last word. 'Yes dear,, whatever you say honey'"
266 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:30:16am |
re: #260 BARACK THE VOTE
How have you been? I think you started a new job? I haven't really been around much but I also haven't seen you in the usual morning hours.
I have a job but need to make a call soon about a really good one. Also, got a Pell grant to take care of cost for going back to skool. Waiting on other things.:)
267 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:30:58am |
re: #258 AK-47%
Yunno, sex was the least interesting part of our relationship, we just dug each other a lot, played music together, travelled, went hiking, running, did things in the house and garden together. I assumed the sex would get better over time. Not only did it fail to get any better, everything else ceased being fun, too...
Four kids and a massive mortgage later.
Did I mention she is Scottish?
268 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:32:09am |
Chrysler gave its entire work force the day off to Vote Today! Let's go! #America— Ralph Gilles (@RalphGilles) November 6, 2012
(This is the same guy who told Donald Trump he was full of shit)
269 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:33:48am |
re: #266 Cannadian Club Akbar
I have a job but need to make a call soon about a really good one. Also, got a Pell grant to take care of cost for going back to skool. Waiting on other things.:)
Oh that's terrific! Congrats on the Pell Grant and good luck with your call (and everything else). :)
270 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:33:58am |
re: #262 lawhawk
Not to mention plumbing issues if your pipes freeze.
271 | Flounder Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:34:12am |
re: #264 sattv4u2
My fathers was "don't get drunk before the wedding"
I didn't, it was the 18 years later I had a problem with.
272 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:34:56am |
re: #267 AK-47%
Did I mention she is Scottish?
You didn't! Scottish as in born and raised in Scotland, or ancestry?
273 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:35:10am |
re: #268 Sheila Broflovski
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(This is the same guy who told Donald Trump he was full of shit)
That is gonna produce a big bump for Obama...which Chrysler employee is gonna go vote for the man who wanted to see them go bankrupt?
274 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:36:16am |
re: #272 BARACK THE VOTE
You didn't! Scottish as in born and raised in Scotland, or ancestry?
Born and raised in Scotland, but her parents are both from northern England, although there is some Scottish ancestry on the father's side, Clan Gordon
275 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:38:03am |
re: #254 Mattand
So people were showing ID voluntarily? Personally, if it were me, I'd refuse. I wonder if many PA residents are still under the impression that it's mandatory.
I was tempted to not have it out and see if they would ask. But opted to just have it out and get through the process quicker for the sake of me, the poll workers, and those in line behind me.
276 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:38:19am |
re: #273 AK-47%
That is gonna produce a big bump for Obama...which Chrysler employee is gonna go vote for the man who wanted to see them go bankrupt?
GM and Ford also give the day off to all UAW and salaried employees. Contractors may or may not get the day off, depending on agency policy. My agency does not give us the day off. :(
277 | Bulworth Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:38:31am |
Just got back from voting. Went to the wrong precinct initially--the one I've voted in before. So I stood in a couple of lines. Voted to re-elect the President and to approve teh gay marriage in Maryland.
278 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:39:52am |
Not this same stupid shit wingnut fake outrage again!
"@gomomgo3: Black Panthers guarding polls in Philly. Don't let 'em win. #intimidation".People in PA - call True-the-vote election hotline!— 1stThngs1st (@1stThngs1st) November 6, 2012
279 | Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:40:05am |
DIXVILLE NOTCH, NH -
In the tiny town of Dixville Notch New Hampshire, the presidential vote ended in a historical first.
In a tradition that started more than 40 years ago. The town of ten registered voters all cast their ballots right after midnight on election day, and the results are tallied immediately.
This year, President Barack Obama and Governor Mitt Romney each received five votes from Dixville Notch.
[Link: www.wcax.com...]
280 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:40:57am |
re: #277 Bulworth
Just got back from voting. Went to the wrong precinct initially--the one I've voted in before. So I stood in a couple of lines. Voted to re-elect the President and to approve teh gay marriage in Maryland.
been in the 'burbs of Atlanta for 3 Presidential elections now. Have voted at 3 different places (and the 1st 2 are still polling stations). I actually have to drive past one of them to get to the "new" one, and the 2nd one is closer than the one I go to now!
281 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:41:10am |
re: #277 Bulworth
Just got back from voting. Went to the wrong precinct initially--the one I've voted in before. So I stood in a couple of lines. Voted to re-elect the President and to approve teh gay marriage in Maryland.
Maryland stands no chance against teh gay onslaught. Are you telling me that a heterosexual male could have come up with this wonderful riot of color and panache?
282 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:41:46am |
re: #262 lawhawk
Oh, and one more gripe on behalf of folks who still have no power or heat in the NYC metro area. It's frakking cold out. The power can't get restored fast enough.
I remember when Katrina hit, and there was a concern when the temps would drop into the 50s that people might suffer.
Hey, we're talking about the 20s here. It was in the mid-20s in Bergen County this morning. That's frakking cold for someone who doesn't have power in their home. It'll get real cold in a house with no power real quick. And that's if the house is intact; it'll be even colder in homes that have damage.
Apartments that lost power and got them back yesterday still aren't out of the woods since it takes time for the heat to come back to comfortable levels - and ConEd in Manhattan isn't running steam to some areas as it tries to get things back.
Given the water damage in the lower floor of my friend's rented duplex a drop below freezing for any period of time will do a pile of damage. Structural damage since the walls and such are still sodden and unheated.
I think they might have power back as of yesterday, but the furnace and water heater are still off since they got a salt water bath and have not been inspected yet (to their knowledge). They will be pestering the landlord for an update today among other things.
284 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:45:11am |
Think I might enjoy following the comments on right-wing sites today. Always interesting to witness the progression through denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance in real time.
Full disclosure: 4 years ago it was this blog I was watching. Things change.
285 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:45:45am |
re: #282 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Yeah, the cold temps are going to make for the possibility of burst pipes, shifting foundations from frost heaves, and other such craziness though this is supposed to be a short lived cold snap - it's supposed to be warmer tonight than last night, but still insufferable for those w/o power. It's just another thing to worry about.
286 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:45:54am |
re: #283 Bulworth
More Katy Perry please
Ha. I'd love to see the equivalent shot of Romney hanging out with Kid Rock and Ted Nugent.
288 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:49:23am |
re: #177 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Arrgghhh...can we all just agree to stop calling things "???-gate." It has become a joke, and a worn out and unfunny one at that, for the sake of everyones sanity can't we just retire the "gate" suffix?
If I read one more RWNJ article where the writer uses "Benghazigate" I really think I am going to scream...
I suggest we substitute -ghazi. Waterghazi, trooperghazi, Monicaghazi, Benghazighazi - it just seems to roll effortlessly off the tongue, doesn't it?
290 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:50:39am |
291 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:51:01am |
Went way faster than in '08. The city really stepped up its' game.
292 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:51:10am |
re: #290 BARACK THE VOTE
Yay Mongo! Mongo check email
I saw that. Mongo need coffee. Lots of coffee.
293 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:52:12am |
re: #285 lawhawk
Yeah, the cold temps are going to make for the possibility of burst pipes, shifting foundations from frost heaves, and other such craziness though this is supposed to be a short lived cold snap - it's supposed to be warmer tonight than last night, but still insufferable for those w/o power. It's just another thing to worry about.
What goes over a lot of people's heads (I think) is how much additional stress events and conditions like this put on people. On top of the normal job, commute, child, pet, etc. etc. issues you suddenly get a pile of issues concerning basic living conditions and things one normally takes for granted (access to gas, heat, food) and also all the grief associated with handling insurance claims, repairs, modified routine, and making other adjustments.
With the additional stress of certain things being important but totally beyond one's control. (Thus one reason I'm doing all the cooking and otherwise helping out with my friends. They come back to my apartment from work or the 2-hour drive after going to the duplex to clean/salvage stuff and there is a hot meal on the table within a few minutes of their arrival.)
294 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:52:12am |
Remember to vote for Obama people! A vote for Obama is a vote for the one true Jesus and if you vote for Romney you'll burn in HELL!!
//
295 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:52:50am |
re: #294 Gus
Remember to vote for Obama people! A vote for Obama is a vote for the one true Jesus and if you vote for Romney you'll burn in HELL!!
//
Already did.
:P
296 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:53:32am |
Happy election day, everyone. It's finally here...I'll be so happy when I don't have to hear the words Candidate Romney again. Fucker's been running for president since 2003...he's lasted longer than the fucking Iraq war...no wonder he didn't want to bring the troops home - he's always been a war-time candidate. National Security! (Republican code for 'ignore our inept economic policy')
297 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:53:44am |
re: #288 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
I suggest we substitute -ghazi. Waterghazi, trooperghazi, Monicaghazi, Benghazighazi - it just seems to roll effortlessly off the tongue, doesn't it?
So when we mess up something regarding the Palestinian issue we then get Gazaghazi? Sounds like an exotic disease, cocktail, or Japanese suicide pilot.
//
298 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:53:55am |
299 | Mattand Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:54:02am |
re: #275 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I was tempted to not have it out and see if they would ask. But opted to just have it out and get through the process quicker for the sake of me, the poll workers, and those in line behind me.
I get that. Still, it's just galling that the stupid law is even in place. And who knows how many votes are going to be lost, thanks in part to the practical disinformation campaign PA set up.
301 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:55:12am |
302 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:55:23am |
Gusghazi.
Iceweaselghazi
Varek Raithghazi
Charlesghazi
LGFghazi
Darthghazi
303 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:55:23am |
re: #298 Varek Raith
Fox Smears FEMA By Comparing Sandy Response To Katrina
Classy!
They're so lame.
304 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:55:27am |
re: #298 Varek Raith
Fox Smears FEMA By Comparing Sandy Response To Katrina
Classy!
They'll move on to calling Obama a Kenyan after the election.
305 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:55:59am |
306 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:56:29am |
So, Nate's polling statistical analysis gives Obama the likely chance of winning reelection. And people are pissed at him for aggregating polls in a way that tries to reflect where people are at in voting preferences?
Oh wait, it's because the signs are pointing towards an Obama reelection, and not Romney's ascension despite the fact that Romney's positions have flipped and flopped worse than anything John Kerry was accused of in 2004.
Nothing is worse than his position on health care reform. He created the model on which the PPACA was based - Romneycare in MA, and now heads the party that wants to repeal it - all because it was a Democrat who got it enacted at the federal level. The individual mandate was something GOPers were pushing for, as opposed to single payer by Democrats. Obama conceded and included the individual mandate as a way to entice GOPers to come on board, but the GOP balked. They not only opposed the very policy that they sought for 20 years, but now claim the policy was unconstitutional.
It's just one microcosm of a larger problem with the GOP and Romney. I simply don't trust his character and judgment and Obama has gotten my trust, particularly in dealing with the ongoing threat from terrorism - going after and taking out AQ and OBL and Awlaki among others. Nothing that Obama has done re: Israel has undermined Israel's security. He hasn't forced Israel to make a deal that would undermine Israel's security. He's continued security arrangements and worked with Israel on Iron Dome among other things. He hasn't made a show of a peace process that can't move ahead because Israel doesn't have a partner in peace for a 2-state solution.
Domestically, Obama's being faulted for high unemployment though things could have gotten a whole lot worse if the stimulus package (the same package that GOPers were waiting in line to get for their home districts because no one wants to leave money on the table for someone else) hadn't gone through. It wasn't nearly targeted enough to encourage long term growth, but it kept the bottom from being so much worse.
It also allowed GM and Chrysler to emerge from bankruptcy reorganization in an orderly fashion at a time when private credit markets were not willing to lend.
It's about making the best of a bad situation, and Obama got no help from GOPers who were hellbent on blocking every initiative to improve the national economy.
307 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:56:44am |
re: #304 darthstar
They'll move on to calling Obama a Kenyan after the election.
But I thought Carnac said they'd slow down after this because it would be his last term?
//
308 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:57:07am |
re: #302 Varek Raith
Gusghazi.
Iceweaselghazi
Varek Raithghazi
Charlesghazi
LGFghazi
Darthghazi
Hm...Darthghazi. Doesn't sound so bad. Maybe I'll name a kid that(not one of my own, of course...just some random kid at the grocery store..."Oh, what a cute baby! I hereby christen thee Darthghazi." Yeah, that'll go over well.)
309 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:57:31am |
Morning, Lizards.
Today's task - tune out the noise on the usual sites and get some work done, then watch the returns come in. I may have to just close the Facebook tab, though - I'm seeing a lot of all-caps posts about votes being changed from Romney to Obama.
If I read that crap all day, I may end up going off on someone who I don't want to go off on, so maybe no Facebook today.
310 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:58:19am |
I was tempted to yell "Benghazi!!!" at the polling place, but I refrained.
311 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:58:31am |
re: #307 Gus
But I thought Carnac said they'd slow down after this because it would be his last term?
//
They'll need to be comforted if Romney loses. Knowing they can still throw stones at the black guy will make them feel better.
312 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:59:14am |
re: #306 lawhawk
So, Nate's polling statistical analysis gives Obama the likely chance of winning reelection. And people are pissed at him for aggregating polls in a way that tries to reflect where people are at in voting preferences?
Oh wait, it's because the signs are pointing towards an Obama reelection, and not Romney's ascension despite the fact that Romney's positions have flipped and flopped worse than anything John Kerry was accused of in 2004.
Nothing is worse than his position on health care reform. He created the model on which the PPACA was based - Romneycare in MA, and now heads the party that wants to repeal it - all because it was a Democrat who got it enacted at the federal level. The individual mandate was something GOPers were pushing for, as opposed to single payer by Democrats. Obama conceded and included the individual mandate as a way to entice GOPers to come on board, but the GOP balked. They not only opposed the very policy that they sought for 20 years, but now claim the policy was unconstitutional.
It's just one microcosm of a larger problem with the GOP and Romney. I simply don't trust his character and judgment and Obama has gotten my trust, particularly in dealing with the ongoing threat from terrorism - going after and taking out AQ and OBL and Awlaki among others. Nothing that Obama has done re: Israel has undermined Israel's security. He hasn't forced Israel to make a deal that would undermine Israel's security. He's continued security arrangements and worked with Israel on Iron Dome among other things. He hasn't made a show of a peace process that can't move ahead because Israel doesn't have a partner in peace for a 2-state solution.
Domestically, Obama's being faulted for high unemployment though things could have gotten a whole lot worse if the stimulus package (the same package that GOPers were waiting in line to get for their home districts because no one wants to leave money on the table for someone else) hadn't gone through. It wasn't nearly targeted enough to encourage long term growth, but it kept the bottom from being so much worse.
It also allowed GM and Chrysler to emerge from bankruptcy reorganization in an orderly fashion at a time when private credit markets were not willing to lend.
It's about making the best of a bad situation, and Obama got no help from GOPers who were hellbent on blocking every initiative to improve the national economy.
Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi!
(I figured I'd just try that once.)
313 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:59:18am |
I can't wait to see Dick Morris's reaction.
314 | ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:59:30am |
Going to work shortly, but I very much need an article from an average news source that show Republican Anti-Muslim behavior.
315 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 5:59:57am |
re: #313 Varek Raith
I can't wait to see Dick Morris's reaction.
He'll have some excuse. Being a modern conservative pundit means never admitting you're wrong.
316 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:00:07am |
re: #312 makeitstop
Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi!
(I figured I'd just try that once.)
Once you start, you can't stop!
318 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:01:08am |
Voting soon. Three generations of my family will be doing so today. My grandmother who did not vote for Obama the first time, my folks, and myself.
319 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:01:12am |
re: #312 makeitstop
New Black Panthergazi! /it's election day after all, and the usual suspects are claiming that they're out in Philly doing... something...
320 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:01:43am |
Another Republican meme heard from...
Vote for all of our troops that are being denied that right today.Stand in line as long as it takes to stand up for America! #SOT #tcot— Jen (@JENin140) November 6, 2012
321 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:01:55am |
re: #309 makeitstop
Morning, Lizards.
Today's task - tune out the noise on the usual sites and get some work done, then watch the returns come in. I may have to just close the Facebook tab, though - I'm seeing a lot of all-caps posts about votes being changed from Romney to Obama.
If I read that crap all day, I may end up going off on someone who I don't want to go off on, so maybe no Facebook today.
Nope...I need to monitor news and twitter for pics of voting lines to see if they're actually moving. So far, I have only seen still photos, which leads me to believe that people are standing in lines for hours on end before remembering that voting should only take a couple of minutes and then entering the building to cast said vote. My guess is they're all just undecided voters waiting for some kind of sign to tell them to go just vote for fucking someone, for chrissakes.
322 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:02:14am |
re: #313 Varek Raith
I can't wait to see Dick Morris's reaction.
In Fox' alternate reality, he'll huff and puff and flat-out state that 'We knew that Romney was headed for a landslide victory! Obama stole the election!!'
And Hann11ty will nod sagely, and everyone watching will believe Dick Morris. The end.
323 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:02:50am |
re: #302 Varek Raith
Gusghazigate
Iceweaselghazigate
Varek Raithghazigate
Charlesghazigate
LGFghazigate
Darthghazigate
FTFY :p
324 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:03:10am |
I believe that the thing that worked for Bush in 2000 and 2004 is going to work for Obama: Americans want someone who is guided by a clear set of rinciples. Whether they agree with them or not, they at least know what to expect from them.
Bush was very adept at projecting that image.
Mitt has demonstrated that he is guided solely by the principle of expediency.
325 | ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:03:42am |
re: #314 ProGunLiberal
I have a friend who asserts Republicans won't do bad things to Muslims if they win.
Whereas I say they want to persecution.
327 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:04:29am |
Erickson admits defeat at Redstate:
[Link: www.redstate.com...]
Who The Heck Knows?
Republicans are supposed to be “rah-rah” for Romney today.
Democrats are supposed to be “rah-rah” for Obama today.
I don’t much believe either side at this point. Democrats are supremely confident right now in Washington. The Republican consultants not so much. It is a reversal from just two weeks ago.
Obviously he goes on to make his case for why Romney's going to win (it comes down to "passion" in Ohio apparently, something I'd rather not think about too much). But when you title your election day post "who the heck knows" and you're the banner-boy for hardcore conservatism, the truth is in the subtext.
328 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:04:32am |
re: #325 ProGunLiberal
I have a friend who asserts Republicans won't do bad things to Muslims if they win.
Whereas I say they want to persecution.
They won't necessary do bad things, they will simply see no need to intervene should bad things happen...
329 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:04:34am |
re: #310 Varek Raith
I was tempted to yell "Benghazi!!!" at the polling place, but I refrained.
Glad to hear that...
330 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:05:34am |
BREAKING: On Election Day, Mitt Romney wishes a good morning to 53 percent of America. "You're all I need," he says. #47 #NotReally— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) November 6, 2012
331 | ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:06:27am |
re: #328 AK-47%
This is why I am paranoid of the Republicans ever having power again. And that is how I got to the Machiavellian idea 2 days ago.
332 | Flounder Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:06:52am |
I hope Korean pop-star Psy is documenting his 15 minutes of fame. A few interesting pics in that bunch as well.
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
333 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:08:09am |
re: #327 iossarian
Erickson admits defeat at Redstate:
[Link: www.redstate.com...]
Obviously he goes on to make his case for why Romney's going to win (it comes down to "passion" in Ohio apparently, something I'd rather not think about too much). But when you title your election day post "who the heck knows" and you're the banner-boy for hardcore conservatism, the truth is in the subtext.
This is his second attempt in a week at penning a post that reads, "I'm cool. It'll all be okay. I don't really care if Romney loses but he won't so keep reading my blog." He just doesn't do calm and deliberate well.
Erick - stick with what you believe to be true...that we're all going to be licking Satan's balls if Obama wins. You sound far more sincere when you say that.
334 | kirkspencer Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:09:12am |
re: #327 iossarian
Erickson admits defeat at Redstate:
[Link: www.redstate.com...]
Obviously he goes on to make his case for why Romney's going to win (it comes down to "passion" in Ohio apparently, something I'd rather not think about too much). But when you title your election day post "who the heck knows" and you're the banner-boy for hardcore conservatism, the truth is in the subtext.
Not passion. A secretary of state who has pushed against if not outright leapt across the bounds of legality.
I'm absolutely certain that the political news of Ohio for the next few weeks will concern "who really won the vote" - that, and the various court appearances of Mr. Husted.
Fortunately, the vote mess there will have no real impact given the large electoral vote margin I'm expecting. 303 (my prediction) minus 18 (Ohio) is still greater than 270.
336 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:09:46am |
It is interesting seeing how the various consultants for the two parties act on the eve of election day. And frankly I thought it was telling that one of Ryan's people leaked his post VP candidacy plans to the media. That doesn't strike me as something that they would do if they felt good about Romney-Ryan's chances.
337 | ProGunLiberal Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:10:04am |
re: #326 Gus
Noun, verb,
9/11Benghazievent.
-- Rudy Giuliani
338 | Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:11:05am |
re: #278 Sheila Broflovski
Not this same stupid shit wingnut fake outrage again!
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I'm glad someone is going to be there to keep an eye on true the vote.
339 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:11:13am |
Nate Silver Would Rather Vote For Ebola Than Political Pundits 2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/11/nate-s... via @tpm— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 6, 2012
340 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:11:43am |
re: #332 Shropshire_Slasher
I hope Korean pop-star Psy is documenting his 15 minutes of fame. A few interesting pics in that bunch as well.
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
I guess he did 'Gangnam Style' 8 or 9 times to fill the set.
/
The wife and I were in Target the other day, and I heard the chorus/tag line from around a corner. As we walked around the corner I saw that it was a dad saying it to amuse his kid who was sitting in the shopping cart.
That's a sure sign that a) Psy has worked his way into the American culture and b) the fame clock is ticking.
341 | mr.fusion Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:11:54am |
re: #88 HappyWarrior
Exactly. The spin I see from Republicans and right wingers is that turnout is going to be dramatically in their favor and I just don't see that. I don't deny that they're more enthusiastic than they were four years ago but as I learned in 2004 a base simply hating an opponent isn't enough.
The side voting FOR their candidate always beats the side voting AGAINST their opponent
343 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:12:22am |
re: #316 Varek Raith
Once you start, you can't stop!
You need to market Benghazi potato chips - you cannot have just one!
;)
344 | Bulworth Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:12:57am |
re: #320 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Another Republican meme heard from...
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I guess because those other people also got to vote early in OH? /
345 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:13:50am |
346 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:14:00am |
re: #341 mr.fusion
The side voting FOR their candidate always beats the side voting AGAINST their opponent
Exactly.
347 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:15:20am |
re: #345 sattv4u2
wow ,, I thought you were just a rumor!!
LTNS
This last Saturday was my first day off in almost 2 months. I'm finally caught up enough to hang out and watch the election stuff. I need better shit to do on my days off!
348 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:17:01am |
Views of the now dry South Ferry Station - lots of damage and debris, but at least the water's out.
349 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:17:34am |
Just got back from voting --no lines.
Then again, parties aren't playing political shenanigans in my state. Not a swing state.
you?
350 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:17:40am |
re: #347 RogueOne
This last Saturday was my first day off in almost 2 months. I'm finally caught up enough to hang out and watch the election stuff. I need better shit to do on my days off!
heh,, and here, election days, especially national ones (like Super Bowl Sundays) are our BUSIEST days
2 hours into a 14 hour (minimum) day with 3 more 14 + days ahead of me this week
351 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:18:11am |
Casino mogul Sheldon Adelson will be partying with Romney tonight thkpr.gs/QktQxo— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) November 6, 2012
352 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:19:14am |
re: #351 Gus
If I paid $50+ million for an election I would keep an eye on my merchandise as well.
:p
353 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:19:18am |
Fox News Hypes Black Panther Intimidation Of Votersthinkprogress.org/politics/2012/... via @thinkprogress— Gus (@Gus_802) November 6, 2012
STEVE DOOCY (HOST): It’s Election Day. We’ve got new video we just showed you of a member of the New Black Panther Party standing guard outside a polling place in Philadelphia. The organization claims they are monitoring the 2012 election, but some critics say that looks like intimidation, like in 2008.
354 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:20:04am |
I''m not saying it was Benghazi, but it was Benghazi. #p2 #tlot twitter.com/Gus_802/status...— Gus (@Gus_802) November 6, 2012
355 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:20:38am |
re: #344 Bulworth
I guess because those other people also got to vote early in OH? /
No, there is this whole made up thing about the DoD not getting absentee ballots to the troops overseas, they have been talking about it for months and months now. The Pentagon even had to set up a special office just to work with any military personnel or dependents who were having a problem getting their ballot after congress stuck its nose into it.
Mostly just made up nonsense along the lines of the well known fact that in-person voting fraud is rampant in democratic precincts...
356 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:20:59am |
re: #353 Gus
The only person outside the polling place I went to in Philly was an elderly white lady with a clipboard. I think the NBP is getting desperate for membership!
;p
///
357 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:21:00am |
358 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:22:10am |
359 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:22:26am |
re: #351 Gus
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Might be more accurate to say that Romney will be partying with Adelson. After all, it is Adelson's party. He paid for it.
360 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:22:56am |
re: #358 Mocking Jay
You know someone is going to take that seriously...
Someone is always taking something seriously. Redneck problems. ;)
361 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:23:52am |
362 | dragonath Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:24:34am |
re: #247 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I voted!
Saw a lot of people showing their IDs, although I didn't. Some crotchety old fuck next to me was going on about how they should, though.
363 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:24:44am |
re: #359 Charleston Chew
Might be more accurate to say that Romney will be partying with Adelson. After all, it is Adelson's party. He paid for it.
Here's hoping it's the most depressing party ever.
364 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:24:52am |
Hope this doesn't happen...
365 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:25:20am |
re: #363 makeitstop
Here's hoping it's the most depressing party ever.
Romney's not even allowed to drink booze. Sux 2 b him.
366 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:25:24am |
re: #353 Gus
The organization claims they are monitoring the 2012 election, but some critics say that looks like intimidation, like in 2008.
"but some critics (Fox) say that it looks like intimidation, just like we claimed it looked like it in 2008 (we are really really scared of black people!).
367 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:25:36am |
If you decide to vote for Mitt Romney today, let me remind you what you'll be signing up for. [PIC] #Forward #VoteObama twitter.com/chrisrockozfan...— Chris Rock 'Oz' (@chrisrockozfan) November 6, 2012
368 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:26:10am |
re: #350 sattv4u2
heh,, and here, election days, especially national ones (like Super Bowl Sundays) are our BUSIEST days
2 hours into a 14 hour (minimum) day with 3 more 14 + days ahead of me this week
Dayum! It takes me two days to put in a 14 hour shift...minimum! And let me tell you, after two seven hour days in the office, I deserve a home office day.
369 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:26:55am |
re: #365 Sheila Broflovski
Romney's not even allowed to drink booze. Sux 2 b him.
I want a replay of McCain's 'victory celebration' - half-empty, people standing around with stunned looks on their faces, music playing with no one dancing.
That's exactly what Romney and Adelson deserve.
370 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:27:00am |
re: #362 dragonath
I voted!
Saw a lot of people showing their IDs, although I didn't. Some crotchety old fuck next to me was going on about how they should, though.
Did you catch up with him after he voted and ask, "So, you crotchety old fuck...who'd you vote for?"
371 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:27:41am |
re: #361 darthstar
Mornin'...how the hell are ya?
Still pissed at you for the giants. I'm not sure we can be friends anymore.///
372 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:27:46am |
Seething and outrageous outrage
GOP inspectors reportedly kicked out of multiple Philadelphia polling places bit.ly/SRivUQ— TwitchyTeam (@TwitchyTeam) November 6, 2012
373 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:28:25am |
re: #368 darthstar
Dayum! It takes me two days to put in a 14 hour shift...minimum! And let me tell you, after two seven hour days in the office, I deserve a home office day.
When I took this job they told me I would only have to work half days
Half of 24 hours ,,, you do the math!!!
(OTOH ,,, it's less hours than when I owned my own business(es)!!
374 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:29:05am |
I love the comments in David Frum articles. No wonder DF stopped linking to him...
America's Disgraceful Voting System
And of course the disingenuous hack picks an example of democrats doing it. From 12 years ago.
375 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:29:06am |
re: #369 makeitstop
I want a replay of McCain's 'victory celebration' - half-empty, people standing around with stunned looks on their faces, music playing with no one dancing.
That's exactly what Romney and Adelson deserve.
Given that he's charging the media 1,000 bucks to attend his party (if they want to do actual reporting), I think there should just be one C-SPAN camera up high with an open air mic to record the goings on at Romney's milk and muffin celebration.
376 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:29:57am |
Romney cuts the line, throws all the other voters out of the polls.
@politicaltickerRT @johnhaydon: Voters in Belmont, MA are being told to leave the voting line - come back after Romney votes. :-/ #mapoli— RightWingWatch MA (@RWwatchMA) November 6, 2012
377 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:30:34am |
re: #373 sattv4u2
When I took this job they told me I would only have to work half days
Half of 24 hours ,,, you do the math!!!
(OTOH ,,, it's less hours than when I owned my own business(es)!!
But the great thing about owning your own business is, you get to pick which 90 hours you work each week.
379 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:31:10am |
re: #376 Sheila Broflovski
Romney cuts the line, throws all the other voters out of the polls.
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I'd say no. He can wait in line like the rest of us.
380 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:31:37am |
Today I am hoping for the worst case scenario...
for the Romney camp.
381 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:31:43am |
Voters waiting in line on Staten Island - to vote in tents, and by the light of lanterns (early AM).
[Link: www.silive.com...]
It's heartening to see folks who are dealing with that kind of situation and still wanting to see their votes cast and counted.
382 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:32:18am |
re: #377 darthstar
But the great thing about owning your own business is, you get to pick which 90 hours you work each week.
each WEEK?!?!?
hell ,,, i logged 90 and still had Friday and Saturday ahead of me!!!
383 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:32:29am |
384 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:32:36am |
re: #340 makeitstop
I guess he did 'Gangnam Style' 8 or 9 times to fill the set.
/The wife and I were in Target the other day, and I heard the chorus/tag line from around a corner. As we walked around the corner I saw that it was a dad saying it to amuse his kid who was sitting in the shopping cart.
That's a sure sign that a) Psy has worked his way into the American culture and b) the fame clock is ticking.
He could probably stop working and live most comfortably the rest of his life on the success of this one song. Quite an accomplishment really.
385 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:32:59am |
re: #380 Gus
Today I am hoping for the worst case scenario...
for the Romney camp.
What if it's CO that puts Romney over the top?
386 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:33:02am |
re: #381 lawhawk
Voters waiting in line on Staten Island - to vote in tents, and by the light of lanterns (early AM).
[Link: www.silive.com...]
It's heartening to see folks who are dealing with that kind of situation and still wanting to see their votes cast and counted.
Scary Voter Shadows! :)
387 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:33:14am |
re: #379 darthstar
I'd say no. He can wait in line like the rest of us.
I seriously doubt any candidate, especially on the national stage waits in that line!
388 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:33:39am |
re: #387 sattv4u2
I seriously doubt any candidate, especially on the national stage waits in that line!
They could at least have an aide wait in line for them.
389 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:33:55am |
390 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:33:57am |
re: #377 darthstar
But the great thing about owning your own business is, you get to pick which 90 hours you work each week.
I've been there.
Pros: You get to be your own boss.
Cons: Your boss is a jerk.
392 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:34:28am |
Although unless the guy is registered as a poll watcher he is breaking the law and feeding the wingnut paranoia by loitering within 100' of the polling place. You aren't allowed to stand around right in front of the doors like that, if you were people would have to fight their way in thru a crowd of picketers. The guy does not belong there and I wish someone would tell him to move away and get off the damn Fox News cameras!
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
393 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:35:07am |
re: #388 Mocking Jay
They could at least have an aide wait in line for them.
OUTRAGEOUS ,, there should be an investigation!!
Dear Eric Holder.
Could you please look into candidates cutting lines
394 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:35:15am |
re: #391 Gus
I'll move to North Korea.
You should try N. Dakota instead. All the cold of N. Korea without the forced labor camps.
395 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:35:46am |
re: #394 RogueOne
You should try N. Dakota instead. All the cold of N. Korea without the forced labor camps.
I could use the discipline.
//
396 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:36:43am |
re: #385 RogueOne
What if it's CO that puts Romney over the top?
Colorado is "Safe Obama" according to Nate Silver. I'll take that over 'what if' any day.
397 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:37:57am |
398 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:38:36am |
re: #386 Sheila Broflovski
I've spent a lot of time in Detroit (and Cleveland, thank god I don't live in a swing state. One more week of political ads and I would have driven myself into a ditch) What do you think the odds are of Props 2 and 6 passing?
399 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:39:21am |
re: #398 RogueOne
I've spent a lot of time in Detroit (and Cleveland, thank god I don't live in a swing state. One more week of political ads and I would have driven myself into a ditch) What do you think the odds are of Props 2 and 6 passing?
At least this time you would have an excuse!!
400 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:41:07am |
Fox News is running another segment on a black person standing outside of a polling place in Philadelphia.— igorvolsky (@igorvolsky) November 6, 2012
401 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:41:11am |
The Department of Justice, civil rights Division will receive complaints concerning elections to [no phone numbers allowed] all day on Nov 6th, copy this number down and be watchful!!
402 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:41:21am |
re: #398 RogueOne
I've spent a lot of time in Detroit (and Cleveland, thank god I don't live in a swing state. One more week of political ads and I would have driven myself into a ditch) What do you think the odds are of Props 2 and 6 passing?
Matty Moroun spent a shit ton of money trying to mislead voters on Prop 6, but I don't think it is going to pass, polls show 75% are against. Proposal 2 (which I voted YES) is going to be a cliff hanger.
403 | RogueOne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:41:29am |
Buzzfeed: Early Ohio voting totals by county:
[Link: docs.google.com...]
404 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:41:47am |
re: #398 RogueOne
I've spent a lot of time in Detroit (and Cleveland, thank god I don't live in a swing state. One more week of political ads and I would have driven myself into a ditch) What do you think the odds are of Props 2 and 6 passing?
Sir, it looks like you live in Dublin, Ireland. I've got 99 problems & your ditch ain't one MT @leedalyire Can u sort the pothole outside?
— Cory Booker (@CoryBooker) November 5, 2012
405 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:42:31am |
What's really surprising in Silver's forecast is that Florida is 52% favorable toward Obama. If Florida goes blue, then Ohio loses some of its election night glory. Virginia's also a 73% Obama favorite now.
406 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:42:43am |
With .000268014579% of precincts reporting, Roseann Barr is ahead by one Vote. Wait scratch that, it's the only vote recorded so far...
///
408 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:45:59am |
It's interesting to me that both campaigns had HQs in very blue regions this year.
MA was always an odd choice for Romney. Maybe he thought New England still had fond memories of him as Gov. But, of course, that Romney has been dead for years now. And it was Romney who murdered him. I predict he won't even get New Hampshire.
On the other hand, while the President will lose Indiana, I think his Mid-West street cred will help him hold on to Iowa.
409 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:47:10am |
re: #403 RogueOne
Buzzfeed: Early Ohio voting totals by county:
[Link: docs.google.com...]
Well, if Obama still manages to win Ohio, you can't say their Secretary of State didn't TRY to help Romney. A good 60,000+ early voters in Obama's strongest districts from 2008 didn't vote this time around. Reduced hours works!
410 | kirkspencer Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:47:24am |
re: #407 Mocking Jay
Drudge headline: FOUR MORE TEARS
That's actually rather clever, something I find surprising from Drudge these days.
And oh, what glorious tears they'll be.
411 | recusancy Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:47:56am |
re: #398 RogueOne
I've spent a lot of time in Detroit (and Cleveland, thank god I don't live in a swing state. One more week of political ads and I would have driven myself into a ditch) What do you think the odds are of Props 2 and 6 passing?
Haven't seen any polling on them but I hope 2 passes and 6 doesn't. 6 is really stupid.
412 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:48:24am |
re: #407 Mocking Jay
Drudge headline: FOUR MORE TEARS
I see that. He's also linking to Breitbart, Free Beacon, Newsbusters, Daily Mail, and Gateway Pundit (Jim Hoft)...
Full metal wingnut!
It's just links. //
413 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:49:46am |
414 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:50:31am |
re: #413 Mocking Jay
Shorter @foxnews: there's a black man in front of the voting place! #VoteObama #CrazyAssBigots— Gus (@Gus_802) November 6, 2012
415 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:50:37am |
re: #412 Gus
I see that. He's also linking to Breitbart, Free Beacon, Newsbusters, Daily Mail, and Gateway Pundit (Jim Hoft)...
Full metal wingnut!
It's just links. //
We'll know whether or not Obama won if there's an Infowars link there tomorrow...
416 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:50:56am |
re: #411 recusancy
Haven't seen any polling on them but I hope 2 passes and 6 doesn't. 6 is really stupid.
6 is nothing but a cement on Bridge Troll's monopoly by requiring a general election in order to allow any competition. WTF. STUPIDEST. PROPOSAL. EVER. Bought and paid for by Matty Moroun.
417 | mr.fusion Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:51:32am |
re: #414 Gus
[Embedded content]
My God
Look at how intimidating he is as he opens that door and smiles at those little old ladies
quite menacing indeed
419 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:51:49am |
re: #409 darthstar
Well, if Obama still manages to win Ohio, you can't say their Secretary of State didn't TRY to help Romney. A good 60,000+ early voters in Obama's strongest districts from 2008 didn't vote this time around. Reduced hours works!
CUYAHOGA (Cleveland) -7.18%
FRANKLIN (Columbus) -12.46%
420 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:51:52am |
re: #408 Charleston Chew
It's interesting to me that both campaigns had HQs in very blue regions this year.
MA was always an odd choice for Romney. Maybe he thought New England still had fond memories of him as Gov. But, of course, that Romney has been dead for years now. And it was Romney who murdered him. I predict he won't even get New Hampshire.
On the other hand, while the President will lose Indiana, I think his Mid-West street cred will help him hold on to Iowa.
Romney would have been smarter to move his HQ to a swing state. MA is where he was governor though, so he kind of had to use it as his home base...even though he's losing in that home state by 25%. Michigan would be his second natural choice, but he's losing there as well, so home state #2 is out of the question. Since Romney's building a home in La Jolla, he could have tried using California - and this is where all the money is - but we're barely able (inclusive as we are) to tolerate the idea of the fucker retiring here and our only consolation is that he bought in a very conservative pocket of the state and will be surrounded by other shallow rich assholes like himself.
421 | Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:54:03am |
re: #414 Gus
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OMG there are white people walking into a polling station, I'm scared.
422 | dragonath Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:54:34am |
Joe Biden in Delaware:
423 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:55:38am |
424 | kirkspencer Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:56:14am |
re: #420 darthstar
Romney would have been smarter to move his HQ to a swing state. MA is where he was governor though, so he kind of had to use it as his home base...even though he's losing in that home state by 25%. Michigan would be his second natural choice, but he's losing there as well, so home state #2 is out of the question. Since Romney's building a home in La Jolla, he could have tried using California - and this is where all the money is - but we're barely able (inclusive as we are) to tolerate the idea of the fucker retiring here and our only consolation is that he bought in a very conservative pocket of the state and will be surrounded by other shallow rich assholes like himself.
Me, I've some more off-the-wall candidates for the political HQs: Salt Lake City, Denver, and Atlanta.
425 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:56:22am |
I went to the local gas station for coffee after I voted. One of my young friends and a former co-worker now works there. She greeted me with a hug.
I don't know if it was election day excitement or just that she wasn't quite awake yet.
It was a nice change from the usual "omg, it's that old lady I'm friends with" look I usually get from the 20 something people I know.
:)
426 | Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:56:28am |
re: #417 mr.fusion
My God
Look at how intimidating he is as he opens that door and smiles at those little old ladies
quite menacing indeed
I left a comment on the video of that on youtube.
Fuck you Fox ya damn hypocrites you all are ok with "True The Vote" trying to intimidate voters and you are throwing a shit fit because one black man is opening a door for voters. as a white man I want to tell you all at fox you're full of shit.
427 | Bulworth Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:56:32am |
re: #372 Sheila Broflovski
Seething and outrageous outrage
[Embedded content]
probably because of all the twitching
428 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:57:19am |
re: #405 darthstar
What's really surprising in Silver's forecast is that Florida is 52% favorable toward Obama. If Florida goes blue, then Ohio loses some of its election night glory. Virginia's also a 73% Obama favorite now.
Virginia is 80.7%
429 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:58:28am |
430 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:58:52am |
431 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:59:21am |
re: #422 dragonath
Joe Biden in Delaware:
Another spineless Democrat leading from behind. Like a good Republican, Romney showed strength by yelling, "Outta my way you 47-percenters! Alpha Male comin' through!" as he rode to the front of the line atop Rafalca.
432 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:59:24am |
Frontpage of the Lorain Morning Journal w/ @barackobama, The Boss, & Jayz.twitpic.com/batv86We must finish what we started— Greg Schultz (@schultzohio) November 6, 2012
433 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:59:31am |
re: #429 Mocking Jay
The swing state of Virginia. Still getting used to that...
Well, Virginia is for lovers...and apparently a lot of them are swingers.
434 | Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:00:17am |
435 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:00:29am |
re: #431 Charleston Chew
Another spineless Democrat leading from behind. Like a good Republican, Romney showed strength by yelling, "Outta my way you 47-percenters! Alpha Male comin' through!" As he rode to the front of the line atop Rafalca.
dressed as Napoleon?
436 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:01:51am |
Yes...by far the best picture of the entire campaign.
#ClassicCampaignMomentsOf2012 Everything in this picture. twitter.com/droogie6655321...— Quite Lowbrow (@droogie6655321) November 6, 2012
437 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:02:51am |
Before you vote, think: Obama wants to raise taxes, @mittromney wants to lower taxes--need I say more!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 6, 2012
Yes, you need to say more: ON THE 1%!
438 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:03:00am |
439 | Petero1818 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:03:16am |
re: #33 efuseakay
That is a serious true believer. I mean seriously. I am willing to accept that there may be a path for Romney to win this election. A slim one, but there is one. But this outcome suggests that every poll in every battleground state other than Florida is wrong. An assessment of polling accuracy over the last 4 elections reveals quite an opposite conclusion. I give Dick a lot of credit putting this out there. He is going to look like a real asshat tomorrow but at least his is not going to hide from it.
440 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:03:39am |
Regarding last week's outrageous outrage:
CBS story on false reports that linemen were turned away in NJ b/c they were non-union. Simply not true. cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-5...— PSE&G (@PSEGdelivers) November 6, 2012
442 | OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:04:15am |
Morning everyone.
Hubby has been assigned to one of the whitest cities in NE Ohio, to hand out lit for all of the Democratic tickets,fed., state, and local.
He just called me, laughing, about how the older white folks wont even look him in the eye when he offers them the literature.
He must represent the two things they hate about the Democrats:
1. Pride in their candidate
2. Youth
3. Blackity blackness
443 | prairiefire Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:04:37am |
Jay-Z got 99 problems but Mitt ain't one![Link: nationaljournal.com...]
444 | Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:04:47am |
re: #437 Sheila Broflovski
[Embedded content]
Yes, you need to say more: ON THE 1%!
Yes you need to say more, You need to say that is the recipe for the start of another recession.
445 | wheat-dogghazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:05:05am |
re: #442 R.M. Ramallo
Morning everyone.
Hubby has been assigned to one of the whitest cities in NE Ohio, to hand out lit for all of the Democratic tickets,fed., state, and local.
He just called me, laughing, about how the older white folks wont even look him in the eye when he offers them the literature.He must represent the two things they hate about the Democrats:
1. Pride in their candidate
2. Youth
3. Blackity blackness
Intimidation!
//
446 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:05:52am |
re: #437 Sheila Broflovski
[Embedded content]
Yes, you need to say more: ON THE 1%!
Before you vote, think: Romney thinks that I should be taken seriously...
447 | Petero1818 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:05:55am |
re: #423 Mocking Jay
Hey, Satt. Look at that. He's standing in fucking line.
Is that Prince Charles behind him? Someone check his ID./
448 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:08:09am |
Mitt Romney cut this line to vote in Belmont #PatchElections twitter.com/ArlingtonPatch...— John Waller (@ArlingtonPatch) November 6, 2012
Yeah...that had to be a good 15-20 minute wait to vote. Mitt doesn't have that kind of time. He has a plane to catch, for Pete's sake!
449 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:08:39am |
Fox Poised To Manufacture Another Bogus New Black Panther Controversy
Scary black peopleghazi!
450 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:09:09am |
re: #437 Sheila Broflovski
Before you vote, think: Obama wants to raise taxes, @MittRomney wants to lower taxes--need I say more!
Notice that Trump writes "need I say more!" rather than "need I say more?". Kinda sums him up.
He's not asking you if he needs to say more (because that would have resulted in a resounding "No!" years ago). He's yelling at you, "I need say more!"
451 | prairiefire Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:09:16am |
In reply to Oh No, Zombies ~ "He just called me, laughing, about how the older white folks wont even look him in the eye when he offers them the literature."
This is the kind of behavior AA folks have to deal with in my neighborhood 25-30% of the time. Stone cold look on old white folk's face, looking right through the AA person who is doing the speaking, no response. Bitter, bitter, bitter.
Happy Election Day!!!
Dig it, it's here!
452 | Bulworth Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:11:26am |
re: #437 Sheila Broflovski
[Embedded content]
Yes, you need to say more: ON THE 1%!
Yeah, don't you care about The Debt!!!!
454 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:12:44am |
Birther-in-chief Donald Trump will party tonight with Romney thkpr.gs/QkB8Bo— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) November 6, 2012
Sickening.
455 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:13:14am |
re: #453 Varek Raith
Vote no on Question 7.
/
We don't have questions on our ballots...we have 'measures' and they're alphabetized. Measure A, Measure B, etc. We also have numerical propositions - Prop 30 - Prop 39 this cycle. But we've never had a Question.
456 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:14:06am |
re: #454 Gus
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Sickening.
Good. I'm glad to see them joined at the hip as they go down together. Don't expect Christie to show up at Victory HQ.
457 | krypto Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:14:15am |
It's nice to read the prediction, but I still think I'll shop around a little on the web this afternoon so that if Romney and Ryan win, I'll know where to send in my order for a "Don't blame me - I voted for Obama" bumper sticker.
458 | prairiefire Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:14:31am |
re: #448 darthstar
The guy in black on the right? He looks Matrixey.
459 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:14:40am |
re: #456 darthstar
Good. I'm glad to see them joined at the hip as they go down together. Don't expect Christie to show up at Victory HQ.
Scum tends to attract other scum.
460 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:15:27am |
re: #455 darthstar
We don't have questions on our ballots...we have 'measures' and they're alphabetized. Measure A, Measure B, etc. We also have numerical propositions - Prop 30 - Prop 39 this cycle. But we've never had a Question.
It's a gambling question in Maryland. I see that damn commercial all the freaking time.
I hate getting out of state political ads.
:)
461 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:16:02am |
re: #454 Gus
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Sickening.
Adelson, Trump, Romney... I'm assuming this guy will also be there.
462 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:16:03am |
464 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:20:21am |
re: #450 Charleston Chew
Notice that Trump writes "need I say more!" rather than "need I say more?". Kinda sums him up.
He's not asking you if he needs to say more (because that would have resulted in a resounding "No!" years ago). He's yelling at you, "I need say more!"
Trump is grabbing at any attention he can get in his futile attempt to be relevant.
465 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:20:39am |
467 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:21:10am |
469 | jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:21:21am |
re: #460 Varek Raith
It's a gambling question in Maryland. I see that damn commercial all the freaking time.
I hate getting out of state political ads.
:)
It's not like we here in Maryland have it any better, we all get the spillover adds from Virginia despite the fact that we're not even within a couple miles of being a swing state.
471 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:23:55am |
Good morning lizards!
Everybody vote today!
472 | kirkspencer Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:25:28am |
474 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:26:45am |
re: #461 Charleston Chew
Adelson, Trump, Romney... I'm assuming this guy will also be there.
Except that the Monopoly board is based off Atlantic City.
I'm thinking Rich Uncle Pennybags is hanging with Chris Christie these days trying to salvage what he can.
475 | erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:28:11am |
30 minute wait at my polling place this morning. Counted ballot number 500ish at 9am.
Democracy feels awesome.
476 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:28:55am |
477 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:29:17am |
re: #471 NJDhockeyfan
Good morning lizards!
Everybody vote today!
I voted two weeks ago. No waiting in line for me.
On the upside, the Austin buses are running for free today as an incentive for people to go vote.
478 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:30:05am |
Now THAT's funny. #WandaWhoToVoteFor twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/st...— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) November 6, 2012
479 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:31:13am |
Voted straight Dem ticket. Amused that the Republican ads here hit Kaine for an education cut but their frigging sample ballots don't even offer an opinion on how to vote on the ballot imitative here. Nice job guys.
480 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:32:31am |
Haha. The Onion are awesome:
Paul Ryan Spending Final Day Of Campaign Reminding Homeless People They Did This To Themselves
481 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:32:37am |
re: #448 darthstar
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Yeah...that had to be a good 15-20 minute wait to vote. Mitt doesn't have that kind of time. He has a plane to catch, for Pete's sake!
Might just be the Secret Service's fault on that one, they kinda have this thing about candidates standing still for long periods in outdoor unsecured locations for some strange reason. :p
482 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:33:43am |
483 | Sionainn Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:35:03am |
re: #479 HappyWarrior
Voted straight Dem ticket. Amused that the Republican ads here hit Kaine for an education cut but their frigging sample ballots don't even offer an opinion on how to vote on the ballot imitative here. Nice job guys.
Voted straight Dem, too, except for the one Dem incumbent councilman who gets in trouble with the law by doing stupid things like getting drunk and shooting his gun on his property. I voted for the Independent in that instance.
484 | Gretchen G.Tiger Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:35:10am |
Off for a mid-morning nap --then Brat Puppy has a playdate.
Have a great Election Morning all --I'll check-in later.
485 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:35:53am |
re: #481 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
Might just be the Secret Service's fault on that one, they kinda have this thing about candidates standing still for long periods in outdoor unsecured locations for some strange reason. :p
Joe Biden stood in line. He has a Secret Service detail. He just tells them to wait by the car while he votes. Mitt Romney didn't want to have to stand around with commoners, and asked for special compensation...and he got it.
Yes, there are a lot more serious reasons to dislike Mitt Romney. I find it fitting that he adds another one to the pile on election day...like an "I voted" sticker to remember him by.
486 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:36:49am |
re: #483 Sionainn
Voted straight Dem, too, except for the one Dem incumbent councilman who gets in trouble with the law by doing stupid things like getting drunk and shooting his gun on his property. I voted for the Independent in that instance.
Getting drunk and shooting guns on your property is for Republicans. He deserved to lose your vote.
487 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:37:04am |
re: #483 Sionainn
Voted straight Dem, too, except for the one Dem incumbent councilman who gets in trouble with the law by doing stupid things like getting drunk and shooting his gun on his property. I voted for the Independent in that instance.
I live in a small town so we only had Senator, President, and Representative to vote for. Even our ballot initiatives were pretty definitively non sexy but like New Jersey, we have a governor's election next fall.
488 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:38:14am |
RT @cherylheuton: RT @joshgreenman: America just won. RT @justinbieber: im 18...but i cant vote...im Canadian.— Ray Radlein (@Radlein) November 6, 2012
489 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:39:23am |
THIS FUCKING LOSER CAN'T TAKE A HINT
Remember: Obama turned down $5M to charity which I said I would increase by 10X to $50M--just to show simple records. He's hiding lots!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 6, 2012
490 | Sionainn Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:39:34am |
re: #486 darthstar
Getting drunk and shooting guns on your property is for Republicans. He deserved to lose your vote.
Well, I've gotten drunk and I've shot guns, but never at the same time and always shooting in appropriate places. ;-)
491 | Kronocide Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:41:51am |
re: #302 Varek Raith
Gusghazi.
Iceweaselghazi
Varek Raithghazi
Charlesghazi
LGFghazi
Darthghazi
BigGhazi! KronoGhazi!
492 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:42:47am |
Why Conservatives Turned Against Science
Remember when environmental protection was a bipartisan effort?
By Erik M. Conway and Naomi Oreskes
A prediction: When all the votes have been counted and the reams of polling data have been crunched, analyzed, and spun, this will be clear: Few scientists will have voted for Republican candidates, particularly for national office. Survey data taken from 1974 through 2010 and analyzed by Gordon Gauchat in the American Sociological Review confirm that most American scientists are not conservatives. A 2009 study by the Pew Research Center found that only 9 percent of scientists self-identified as conservative, while 52 percent called themselves liberals. Only 6 percent of American scientists self-identified as Republicans. This state of affairs is bad for the nation, and bad for science.
It was not always this way. In the 1968 election, Richard Nixon won the votes of 31 percent of physicists, 42 percent of biologists, 52 percent of geologists, and 62 percent of agricultural scientists (compared with 43.4 percent of the popular vote). While these data do not include party affiliation, they suggest that the scientific community of the late 1960s was much more evenly divided between the two major parties than it is now, and, with the exception of physicists, slightly more conservative than the American voting public at large.
493 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:43:51am |
For those of you who like to crunch numbers check this out.
Total number of ballots cast in all reporting jurisdictions: 32,197,665
Scroll down for a table of statistics on ballots returned and ballots requested or sent.
I'm not sure how to read in to all of it.
494 | blueraven Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:44:24am |
Running one last projection based on this AM's polls. Our projected margin in Florida now Obama 49.797, Romney 49.775.— Nate Silver (@fivethirtyeight) November 6, 2012
Recount!
495 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:44:24am |
re: #489 Sheila Broflovski
THIS FUCKING LOSER CAN'T TAKE A HINT
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What a tool. That money would be better served going to Sandy relief efforts. Instead he has to try and be an attention whore.
POTUS isn't going to dignify any of Trump's nonsense with a response. He's just going to focus on the important things, like winning the election.
496 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:44:47am |
re: #489 Sheila Broflovski
THIS FUCKING LOSER CAN'T TAKE A HINT
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I gleefully await his bitter tears.
497 | kirkspencer Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:44:54am |
498 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:45:20am |
499 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:45:32am |
.@politico44 -- Chrysler gives workers day off to vote: politi.co/RQRXz0— POLITICO (@politico) November 6, 2012
500 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:45:35am |
Maybe Donald can go cry with Mitt when tonight's over. Seriously what an attention whore this guy is.
501 | OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:45:55am |
I actually voted for one Republican because I know the Dem. incumbent personally.
He's a dick.
If his anatomy could trade places with his personality, then his wife would have a merry Christmas...multiple merry Christmases.
If they had offered a brain-damaged turtle to run against that tool, I would have voted for it.
502 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:46:10am |
503 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:46:14am |
Almost over... almost over... hold it together...
504 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:46:30am |
Hmm. I have a bottle of wine waiting at home tonight. However, the Travis County Democratic Party is having their election party a block from my office and it starts right after I get off work.
Go home or hang out? I think I'm going to see if anyone I know is going.
505 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:46:34am |
re: #499 Gus
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Chrysler seems pretty pissed about the lie Romney said about them judging by that one executive's tweet to Trump.
506 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:47:11am |
508 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:48:11am |
re: #505 HappyWarrior
Chrysler seems pretty pissed about the lie Romney said about them judging by that one executive's tweet to Trump.
Saw a Romney ad last night: showing factories being chained shut, workers standing in unemployment lines. What a dumb ad, to show voters what Michigan will look like if Romney wins.
509 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:48:37am |
If you move to Canada because your candidate didn't win the election, you deserve to find out how gross poutine is.— Indecision (@indecision) November 6, 2012
510 | Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:49:26am |
re: #494 blueraven
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Recount!
Dem lawyers need to be ass deep in this if it happens to make sure we don't have a repeat of the "2000" debacle.
511 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:49:40am |
I think I'm going to be waiting in line for Halo 4 longer I will to vote.
Speaking of which, I will be wearing one of these lovely t-shirts, which I won at NYCC. :)
512 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:49:55am |
POTUS is a class act:
Obama to Romney: "Congratulations on a spirited campaign" tpm.ly/RGlhtM— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) November 6, 2012
513 | kirkspencer Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:49:57am |
re: #504 Lidane
Hmm. I have a bottle of wine waiting at home tonight. However, the Travis County Democratic Party is having their election party a block from my office and it starts right after I get off work.
Go home or hang out? I think I'm going to see if anyone I know is going.
Find out if the booze is free, and how they're getting people home (designated drivers, etc.)
514 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:50:17am |
515 | dragonath Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:50:37am |
So, for posterity, this year Romney campaigned with:
Blowhard billionaire with terrible hair
Guy who thinks Halloween is a demonic plot
Kid Rock
No wonder Christie is running as fast as he can.
516 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:51:06am |
re: #515 dragonath
So, for posterity, this year Romney campaigned with:
Blowhard billionaire with terrible hair
Guy who thinks Halloween is a demonic plot
Kid RockNo wonder Christie is running as fast as he can.
You forgot Meatloaf.
517 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:51:20am |
[Link: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com...]
Here's Nate on my home state. I really think this state is Obama's for the winning.
518 | OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:51:25am |
re: #442 R.M. Ramallo
Morning everyone.
Hubby has been assigned to one of the whitest cities in NE Ohio, to hand out lit for all of the Democratic tickets,fed., state, and local.
He just called me, laughing, about how the older white folks wont even look him in the eye when he offers them the literature.He must represent the two things they hate about the Democrats:
1. Pride in their candidate
2. Youth
3. Blackity blackness
I mean three things...
Heh.
519 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:51:48am |
re: #515 dragonath
So, for posterity, this year Romney campaigned with:
Blowhard billionaire with terrible hair
Guy who thinks Halloween is a demonic plot
Kid RockNo wonder Christie is running as fast as he can.
I just stopped myself from making about six jokes right there.
You're welcome, Governor.
520 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:51:49am |
re: #513 kirkghazi
Find out if the booze is free, and how they're getting people home (designated drivers, etc.)
Good idea. I'm messaging a friend on FB to see if she's going.
521 | SidewaysQuark Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:52:26am |
Good news, but I will persist in being nervous until the day's end.
522 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:52:50am |
Oh crap! Nate has Obama's chances below 91% now!
Razor tight!!!
523 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:53:02am |
re: #492 Gus
Why Conservatives Turned Against Science
Remember when environmental protection was a bipartisan effort?
By Erik M. Conway and Naomi Oreskes
Excellent article, thanks.
524 | erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:53:48am |
re: #509 Lidane
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Poutine? Gross?!
DOWNDING BECAUSE WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU
525 | ReamWorks SKG Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:53:50am |
Fox News has already declared Romney the winner, so I'm not going to bother voting today!
(j/k! I voted by mail. I'm OMW to the airport to fly to Portugal, so I won't know the results until I land!)
526 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:54:33am |
You know, they say people have turned against Obama and I know to a degree that's true but there's also many whom he has grown on. My grandmother did not like Obama at all in 2008. She thought his campaign was mean to Hillary and thought he was a terrible candidate but she's seen him as president these past four years and she's become a fan. And I know there are some of you like that too here who the president has grown on.
527 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:54:33am |
re: #525 ReamWorks SKG
Fox News has already declared Romney the winner, so I'm not going to bother voting today!
(j/k! I voted by mail. I'm OMW to the airport to fly to Portugal, so I won't know the results until I land!)
Safe trip, and have a great time!
528 | Girth Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:54:55am |
Morning Lizards. Can't wait to vote this afternoon, which of course will be followed by copious amounts of alcohol consumption as we all wait for results. Besides the obivious, we've six important ballot proposals here in MI as well. Screw you, Matty! NO ON SIX!
529 | ReamWorks SKG Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:55:24am |
re: #524 erik_t
I LOVE POUTINE!
Image: 8052307650_3342583195_b.jpg
This was at Poutineville in Montreal about a month ago
530 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:55:37am |
re: #526 HappyWarrior
You know, they say people have turned against Obama and I know to a degree that's true but there's also many whom he has grown on. My grandmother did not like Obama at all in 2008. She thought his campaign was mean to Hillary and thought he was a terrible candidate but she's seen him as president these past four years and she's become a fan. And I know there are some of you like that too here who the president has grown on.
Yeah, that's like half of the whole site...
531 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:56:59am |
re: #530 Ben Jayzi
Yeah, that's like half of the whole site...
Yep. Anyhow looking forward to tonight. Hope we know before midnight because I want to get over this cold fast.
532 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:57:42am |
Cue the wingnut outrage!
'UN monitors' will observe election, despite arrest threats thkpr.gs/QkHhgX— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) November 6, 2012
533 | ReamWorks SKG Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:57:48am |
re: #530 Ben Jayzi
I was neutral on Obama 4 years ago. I wanted Hillary, I was worried about an anti-business climate. I also didn't like the way he threw Rev. White under the bus and replaced him with Rick Warren., etc. I didn't like the way he hedged on same-sex marriage (contributing to Proposition 8 passing in CA.)
But now, 4 years later, I like him!
534 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:58:36am |
re: #531 HappyWarrior
Yep. Anyhow looking forward to tonight. Hope we know before midnight because I want to get over this cold fast.
Jimmah and I are staying up to watch the returns-- I hope we know by midnight too as that's 5am here.
535 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:59:22am |
re: #533 ReamWorks SKG
I was neutral on Obama 4 years ago. I wanted Hillary, I was worried about an anti-business climate. I also didn't like the way he threw Rev. White under the bus and replaced him with Rick Warren., etc. I didn't like the way he hedged on same-sex marriage (contributing to Proposition 8 passing in CA.)
But now, 4 years later, I like him!
Wright. ;)
536 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:59:36am |
537 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:00:08am |
Televangelist James Robison likens his anti-gay efforts to helping victims of Hurricane Sandy bit.ly/XgzKlh— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 6, 2012
Because being gay is a natural disaster, don'tcha know.
538 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:00:16am |
The election will end tonight, but Benghazi will live forever... (forever ending with the next outrage)
540 | dragonath Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:00:26am |
For anyone still on the fence. Three words:
House Science Committee
541 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:01:16am |
re: #540 dragonath
For anyone still on the fence. Three words:
House Science Committee
three more:
right to choose
542 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:01:22am |
re: #498 NJDhockeyfan
Hanging chads!
Hanging chads are just so last century, now we have network packet errors!
543 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:01:48am |
re: #534 BARACK THE VOTE
Jimmah and I are staying up to watch the returns-- I hope we know by midnight too as that's 5am here.
The earliest they'll call it is 11PM EST. Unless Romney pulls off a miracle. But Obama can't lock it up until the west coast is called.
544 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:02:06am |
Dueling Bitterness on Cable News
A Pew Research Center study found that of Fox News stories about Mr. Obama from the end of August through the end of October, just 6 percent were positive and 46 percent were negative.
Pew also found that Mr. Obama was covered far more than Mr. Romney. The president was a significant figure in 74 percent of Fox’s campaign stories, compared with 49 percent for Romney. In 2008, Pew found that the channel reported on Mr. Obama and John McCain in roughly equal amounts.
The greater disparity was on MSNBC, which gave Mr. Romney positive coverage just 3 percent of the time, Pew found. It examined 259 segments about Mr. Romney and found that 71 percent were negative.
MSNBC, whose programs are hosted by a new crop of extravagant partisans like Mr. Bashir, Mr. Sharpton and Lawrence O’Donnell, has tested the limits of good taste this year. Mr. O’Donnell was forced to apologize in April after describing the Mormon Church as nothing more than a scheme cooked up by a man who “got caught having sex with the maid and explained to his wife that God told him to do it.”
Link to study here: Both Candidates Received More Negative than Positive Coverage in Mainstream News, but Social Media Was Even Harsher
545 | Girth Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:02:08am |
re: #536 BARACK THE VOTE
UN monitors! OBAmA's SEEKRIT ARMY!
They need exit polling data to grab our guns, don'tcha know?
546 | Kronocide Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:02:23am |
I voted for McCain last time... was looking at Obama and real close but just couldn't do it. Still in the last stages of my cult deprogramming. Plus, I know Obama would kill it in Hawaii so my vote really didn't matter.
Now, I may vote for Jill Stein. Again, my vote won't count because Obama will own Hawaii. This time, I hope he wins. If for a second I thought it would be close I'd vote Obama. But I want a little nugget for Jill Stein.
Obama is not perfect but he's done well, I'd like to see a second term. The GOP needs to GTFO and work on their grasp of rationality and adherence to FUD.
547 | Jolo5309 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:04:38am |
re: #306 lawhawk
Nothing is worse than his position on health care reform. He created the model on which the PPACA was based - Romneycare in MA, and now heads the party that wants to repeal it - all because it was a Democrat who got it enacted at the federal level. The individual mandate was something GOPers were pushing for, as opposed to single payer by Democrats. Obama conceded and included the individual mandate as a way to entice GOPers to come on board, but the GOP balked. They not only opposed the very policy that they sought for 20 years, but now claim the policy was unconstitutional.
Homer Simpson voted for Romney because Mitt invented Obamacare
548 | Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:04:43am |
re: #546 Kronocide
I voted for McCain last time... was looking at Obama and real close but just couldn't do it. Still in the last stages of my cult deprogramming. Plus, I know Obama would kill it in Hawaii so my vote really didn't matter.
Now, I may vote for Jill Stein. Again, my vote won't count because Obama will own Hawaii. This time, I hope he wins. If for a second I thought it would be close I'd vote Obama. But I want a little nugget for Jill Stein.
Obama is not perfect but he's done well, I'd like to see a second term. The GOP needs to GTFO and work on their grasp of rationality and adherence to FUD.
Vote for him anyway add to the popular vote.
549 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:04:47am |
Heh:
SHUT UP AND GO BE BANKRUPT AGAIN "@realdonaldtrump: Why is Obama playing basketball today? That is why our country is in trouble!"— Amanda Hugginkiis (@grande_lattte) November 6, 2012
550 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:05:11am |
re: #544 Killgore Trout
The greater disparity was on MSNBC, which gave Mr. Romney positive coverage just 3 percent of the time, Pew found. It examined 259 segments about Mr. Romney and found that 71 percent were negative.
When a candidate bases his entire campaign on egregious lies, even 3 percent positive is a little more than he deserves.
551 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:05:52am |
re: #540 dragonath
For anyone still on the fence. Three words:
House Science Committee
Ugh. America's face palm.
552 | simoom Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:05:59am |
ABCNews's current front page is weirdly dominated by pro-Romney media at the moment. The central large photo for a story on the election math is a very positive photo of him and his wife, next you have a drudge-bait headline for the story about Romney breaking from election day norms and adding in some frantic, last-minute campaigning, and next you have some sort of Romney campaign biopic following him for 16-months.
Screenshot:
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553 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:06:34am |
re: #524 erik_t
Poutine? Gross?!
DOWNDING BECAUSE WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU
My drunk kitchen...
555 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:07:52am |
re: #552 simoom
Anything to keep the illusion of a horse race alive, I guess.
559 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:09:11am |
re: #524 erik_t
Poutine? Gross?!
DOWNDING BECAUSE WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU
Related:
I should have guessed a tweet saying poutine is gross would be the most controversial thing we post on Election Day.— Indecision (@indecision) November 6, 2012
561 | Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:10:07am |
re: #546 Kronocide
I voted for McCain last time... was looking at Obama and real close but just couldn't do it. Still in the last stages of my cult deprogramming. Plus, I know Obama would kill it in Hawaii so my vote really didn't matter.
Now, I may vote for Jill Stein. Again, my vote won't count because Obama will own Hawaii. This time, I hope he wins. If for a second I thought it would be close I'd vote Obama. But I want a little nugget for Jill Stein.
Obama is not perfect but he's done well, I'd like to see a second term. The GOP needs to GTFO and work on their grasp of rationality and adherence to FUD.
Heck I live in Indiana when I voted for Obama this time all I was doing is adding to the popular vote.
562 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:10:13am |
I wonder why they weren't equally outraged about the embassy and consultant attacks that happened in the Bush years? Oh that's right, Obama, anything to knee cap him huh Republicans.
563 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:10:55am |
re: #562 HappyWarrior
I wonder why they weren't equally outraged about the embassy and consultant attacks that happened in the Bush years? Oh that's right, Obama, anything to knee cap him huh Republicans.
Because black Jimmy Carter, that's why.
Why do you hate America?
///
564 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:11:03am |
re: #561 Tigger2
Heck I live in Indiana when I voted for Obama this time all I was doing is adding to the popular vote.
You do have a chance of getting a Democratic senator though. Bet the R's are pissed that Lugar got primaried after Mourdock stepped on stupid.
566 | dragonath Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:11:20am |
re: #549 Lidane
Heh:
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Everybody knows that if Obama gets re-elected, he's gonna get all Mayan and play basketball with Donald Trump's head.
567 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:11:33am |
OMG. If she can, so can you."@cookcountyclerk: Pregnant mom in labor votes on way to hospital #constantcontact conta.cc/SRKrrX"— julianne hing (@juliannehing) November 6, 2012
568 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:11:38am |
re: #563 Lidane
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They want him to be Jimmy Carter 2.0 so bad but the simple reality is he's more Clinton and Truman.
569 | OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:12:22am |
Watching Guliani on MSNBC...
He's an idiot.
570 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:12:26am |
Giuliani is smart: "Somebody is right or wrong. Either Obama is going to win or Romney is going to win." He's off to a Mensa meeting, guys.
— Imani ABL (@AngryBlackLady) November 6, 2012
572 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:13:30am |
re: #556 Gus
Dude. I'm dead. Enough already /ben gazarra ///oh wait, my hearing aint too good
573 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:13:55am |
James Robison says "Modern Family" is undermining morality and destroying America's foundations bit.ly/XgzKlh— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 6, 2012
Pfft. Modern Family is awesome.
574 | Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:13:57am |
re: #564 HappyWarrior
You do have a chance of getting a Democratic senator though. Bet the R's are pissed that Lugar got primaried after Mourdock stepped on stupid.
I voted straight Dem ticket, I can't stand Mourdock or Mike Pence.
575 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:14:01am |
re: #569 R.M. Ramallo
Watching Guliani on MSNBC...
He's an idiot.
Maybe if he appeared in drag, it would be more fun but otherwise I have no desire to hear Rudy talk.
576 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:14:10am |
@indecision America! Canada's shorts! #PoutineGate twitter.com/Gus_802/status...— Gus (@Gus_802) November 6, 2012
577 | dragonath Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:14:11am |
Also, LOL at Killgore trying to make an equivalence between partisan MSNBC, and partisan, racist, and bigoted Fox News.
579 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:15:00am |
re: #573 Lidane
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Pfft. Modern Family is awesome.
Someone needs to have fun. Oh wait, that's impossible if you're a fanatic like that.
580 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:15:00am |
Oh shit. I had no idea this was happening.
Oh wow, they have Google Chrome? #ImFired | ‘Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome’ to Finally Air Online flavorwire.com/343832/battles…
— Imani ABL (@AngryBlackLady) November 6, 2012
581 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:15:15am |
re: #577 dragonath
Also, LOL at Killgore trying to make an equivalence between partisan MSNBC, and partisan, racist, and bigoted Fox News.
It's what he does.
582 | brennant Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:15:22am |
re: #569 R.M. Ramallo
Watching Guliani on MSNBC...
He's an idiot.
If he says 'FEMUR' again I am going to cry.
583 | Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:15:35am |
re: #577 dragonath
Also, LOL at Killgore trying to make an equivalence between partisan MSNBC, and partisan, racist, and bigoted Fox News.
They are as different as night and day.
584 | Kronocide Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:16:09am |
Ben Gazzeraghazi is starring in a new myopic:
Benghazi: Dreams of my (Real) Destruction of America
585 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:16:17am |
586 | prairiefire Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:16:29am |
re: #511 Ben Jayzi
I think I'm going to be waiting in line for Halo 4 longer I will to vote.
Speaking of which, I will be wearing one of these lovely t-shirts, which I won at NYCC. :)
Awesome.
587 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:16:29am |
re: #583 Tigger2
They are as different as night and day.
Yeah, stupid MSNBC has almost completely ignored the controversy over BENGHAZI!
588 | simoom Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:16:52am |
re: #565 makeitstop
JayZghazi!
So far today Fox has added back into their boogieman mix: New Black Panthers, "union thugs" and illegal immigrant voters. Ugh, are we really going to have to start another presidential term off with endless braying about NBPs again? I expect it will trigger a bit of deja vu.
589 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:17:10am |
whaaaat? @tuckercarlson trolling on Election Day? (it took 2 pple to write this? #conservativejournalism); bit.ly/TIgJp5— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) November 6, 2012
590 | Mattand Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:17:17am |
Just got back from voting. Pretty uneventful. Guy who came in after me stated to the volunteers we should have to show ID. Stifled the urge to tell him it was bullshit, intended to suppress non-GOP voters.
591 | Ben G. Hazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:17:37am |
re: #546 Kronocide
I voted for McCain last time... was looking at Obama and real close but just couldn't do it. Still in the last stages of my cult deprogramming. Plus, I know Obama would kill it in Hawaii so my vote really didn't matter.
Now, I may vote for Jill Stein. Again, my vote won't count because Obama will own Hawaii. This time, I hope he wins. If for a second I thought it would be close I'd vote Obama. But I want a little nugget for Jill Stein.
Obama is not perfect but he's done well, I'd like to see a second term. The GOP needs to GTFO and work on their grasp of rationality and adherence to FUD.
No offense, but if you think that President Obama has done a good job and want him to win reelection, why in the hell are you planning to vote for Stein?
The president's reelection is far from a lock, especially on the popular vote.
592 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:17:57am |
re: #577 dragonath
Also, LOL at Killgore trying to make an equivalence between partisan MSNBC, and partisan, racist, and bigoted Fox News.
Direct your complaints to Pew Research and the New York Times. I don't watch cable news but of the clips I see posted here both MSNBC and fox are silly and cartoonish.
593 | Mattand Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:17:59am |
re: #577 dragonath
Also, LOL at Killgore trying to make an equivalence between partisan MSNBC, and partisan, racist, and bigoted Fox News.
Libertarians gonna libertarianate.
594 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:18:05am |
Heh. Fox is showing Obama making calls to GOTV and drawing conclusions.
595 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:18:10am |
ROFL:
Pretty cool that Nate Silver is still able to blog from whichever locker a bunch of jocks stuffed him in last night.— Indecision (@indecision) November 6, 2012
598 | Mattand Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:19:49am |
re: #594 Ben Jayzi
Heh. Fox is showing Obama making calls to GOTV and drawing conclusions.
The frigging giant size Black Panther story on their homepage is a hoot, especially since for most people in Philly it's a non-issue.
599 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:19:53am |
re: #592 Killgore Trout
Direct your complaints to Pew Research and the New York Times. I don't watch cable news but of the clips I see posted here both MSNBC and fox are silly and cartoonish.
See? See? Both sides do it! See???
600 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:20:06am |
601 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:21:12am |
Juan Williams on Obama's 08 primary win: "I never would have guessed that would be possible for an African-American in Iowa."
602 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:21:17am |
While this is nothing compared to telling people the wrong day for election day or directing them to the wrong precinct. A guy was handing out sample ballots, my grandmother asked if it was the Democratic one, so she got it, and we took a look and it was the Republican one. My Dad and I got two just to throw people off. Also saw a woman with her two children wearing matching Romney-Ryan outfits with hats and all. I thought that was tacky. I told my kid brother who was with us that I would never let our parents do that to him heh.
603 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:21:41am |
re: #590 Mattand
Just got back from voting. Pretty uneventful. Guy who came in after me stated to the volunteers we should have to show ID. Stifled the urge to tell him it was bullshit, intended to suppress non-GOP voters.
We have to show an ID every year there is an election. Nobody complained when I was there this morning.
604 | dragonath Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:22:04am |
re: #590 Mattand
Huh, same thing happened where I was at. I guess that's what's buzzing inside those hive minds right now.
I'm against it simply on the principle that Voter ID is an admission that all voters are guilty before being proven innocent.
606 | Kronocide Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:23:17am |
re: #591 MittDoesNotCompute
No offense, but if you think that President Obama has done a good job and want him to win reelection, why in the hell are you planning to vote for Stein?
The president's reelection is far from a lock, especially on the popular vote.
Obama will get 70% of the vote in Hawaii. The popular vote does not mean shit, he'll get Hawaii's 4 electoral votes no problem.
607 | Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:24:54am |
re: #577 dragonath
Also, LOL at Killgore trying to make an equivalence between partisan MSNBC, and partisan, racist, and bigoted Fox News.
I can't imagine why discussing a candidate who lies with every word that comes out of his mouth should get negative press.
Every news channel should have called out his lies. But few did. And when they did, it was wishy-washy. Romney is a blatant fucking liar. And he, for the most part, got away with it clean. That is a press failure.
608 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:24:55am |
Quote of the Day:
“If you are bored and disgusted by politics and don't bother to vote, you are in effect voting for the entrenched Establishments of the two major parties, who please rest assured are not dumb, and who are keenly aware that it is in their interests to keep you disgusted and bored and cynical and to give you every possible reason to stay at home doing one-hitters and watching MTV on primary day. By all means stay home if you want, but don't bullshit yourself that you're not voting. In reality, there is no such thing as not voting: you either vote by voting, or you vote by staying home and tacitly doubling the value of some Diehard's vote.” -- David Foster Wallace, Up Simba!
609 | Mattand Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:25:22am |
re: #603 NJDhockeyfan
We have to show an ID every year there is an election. Nobody complained when I was there this morning.
What good is complaining going to do? Like it or hate it, I'm assuming it's the law in your state. It's not like they have a choice.
It's a solution in search of a problem.
610 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:26:31am |
Did Charles get rid of the "Show Users" button?
611 | Jolo5309 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:26:39am |
612 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:26:51am |
613 | makeitstop Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:28:02am |
re: #607 Joanne
I can't imagine why discussing a candidate who lies with every word that comes out of his mouth should get negative press.
Every news channel should have called out his lies. But few did. And when they did, it was wishy-washy. Romney is a blatant fucking liar. And he, for the most part, got away with it clean. That is a press failure.
And of course, pointing out his lies (which I assume was the majority of MSNBC's reportage) is labeled 'negative.'
Truth = negative. Welcome to 21st century journalism.
/spit
614 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:28:28am |
Oh, if anyone's been interested in getting a 10 inch tablet but not interested in the price, I have to recommend this Galaxy Tab for $180. A steal indeed.
[Link: www.dailysteals.com...]
615 | Kronocide Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:29:00am |
By tomorrow night we’ll likely know the name of the next president. But we already know the loser in this election cycle: political reporters. They’ve disgraced themselves. Conservatives have long complained about liberal bias in the media, and with some justification. But it has finally reached the tipping point. Not in our lifetimes have so many in the press dropped the pretense of objectivity in order to help a political candidate. The media are rooting for Barack Obama. They’re not hiding it.
Irony meter REDLINE in Tucker Carlson's MegaSadz column. Go get 'interviewed' on Fox News buddy.
616 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:29:06am |
Acceptable forms of identification include the following:
Virginia voter registration card
Valid Virginia driver's license
Military ID
Any Federal, Virginia state or local government-issued ID
Employer issued photo ID card
Concealed handgun permit
Valid student ID issued by any institution of higher education located in the Commonwealth of Virginia
Current utility bill, bank statement, government check or paycheck indicating the name and address of the voter
Social Security card (*please see below as the social security card does not satisfy special federal ID requirements)
A voter who does not bring an acceptable ID to the polls will be offered a provisional ballot.
618 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:30:07am |
A pregnant suburban Chicago woman didn't let being in labor stop her from voting in her first presidential election.
Cook County Clerk David Orr reports that 21-year-old Galicia Malone's water had broken and her contractions were about five minutes apart. But Orr says she still made the detour en route to the hospital to vote this morning at the polls at New Life Celebration Church in Dolton, Ill.
No word yet on if the baby was born.
619 | Four More Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:30:21am |
620 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:31:14am |
I'm glad the ID nonsense never got far in Va.
621 | Mattand Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:32:37am |
re: #613 makeitstop
And of course, pointing out his lies (which I assume was the majority of MSNBC's reportage) is labeled 'negative.'
Truth = negative. Welcome to 21st century journalism.
/spit
I think that speaks in a way to how successful Romney's campaign was. He and the people running his campaign counted on both the public-at-large and the press to view any sort of criticism as impolite, regardless of what the campaign said.
Having Fox watch his back didn't hurt, either.
It's very telling that only the "Jeep is outsourcing jobs" bull was openly called out; mainly because the auto industry had to jump in and dismiss it.
622 | Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:33:23am |
re: #615 Kronocide
Irony meter REDLINE in Tucker Carlson's MegaSadz column. Go get 'interviewed' on Fox News buddy.
Not in our lifetimes have so many in the press dropped the pretense of objectivity in order to help a political candidate. The media are rooting for Barack Obama. They’re not hiding it.
If this were true every news organization would have been screaming non stop "Romney Lies" but I sure didn't hear that much, seemed to me like he got a pass most of the time.
623 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:33:27am |
re: #616 Varek Raith
Acceptable forms of identification include the following:
Virginia voter registration card
Valid Virginia driver's license
Military ID
Any Federal, Virginia state or local government-issued ID
Employer issued photo ID card
Concealed handgun permit
Valid student ID issued by any institution of higher education located in the Commonwealth of Virginia
Current utility bill, bank statement, government check or paycheck indicating the name and address of the voter
Social Security card (*please see below as the social security card does not satisfy special federal ID requirements)
A voter who does not bring an acceptable ID to the polls will be offered a provisional ballot.
There were two big issues with the PA Voter ID law:
1. It was "picture ID only" - which voids some of the list above that most people have, like a utility bill or a SS card.
2. It was implemented in the middle of this year with fairly little time for people to find and get acceptable ID before the election. As compared to enacting it in an off-year where there is at least 12 months to go through the process of getting an acceptable ID if you did not already have something that qualified. Also more time to properly communicate to everyone that an ID was needed.
3. I also don't recall off-hand if the law as initially implemented allowed for a provisional ballot if ID was not carried. I suspect it might not have.
624 | Ben G. Hazi Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:34:18am |
re: #573 Lidane
Pfft. Modern Family is awesome.
The right wing nutjobs didn't exactly like the last big show that Ed O'Neill starred in either (Married With Children).
And that was on Fox...
625 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:34:20am |
re: #620 Varek Raith
I'm glad the ID nonsense never got far in Va.
All they ask for is an ID and then ask you to say your name and address.
627 | Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:35:01am |
629 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:35:32am |
re: #625 NJDhockeyfan
All they ask for is an ID and then ask you to say your name and address.
Yep simple enough.
630 | Kronocide Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:35:36am |
re: #622 Tigger2
Not in our lifetimes have so many in the press dropped the pretense of objectivity in order to help a political candidate. The media are rooting for Barack Obama. They’re not hiding it.
If this were true every news organization would have been screaming nonstop Romney Lies, but I sure didn't hear that much seemed to me like he got a pass most of the time.
Weird. If they were really rooting for Obama there would have been endless polling showing the race over, Romney way behind, GaffeGate this and that, etc.
And that didn't happen.
631 | Kaessa Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:38:08am |
We voted this morning!
Lines were long, but they let gimpy me in a wheelchair cut to the front of the line because of the stairs leading up to the polling place. I had to take the elevator. I felt bad about cutting in line, but everyone was really nice.
My youngest son voted for the first time ever. He was pretty stoked to be able to vote for Obama.
Will voted for the very first time! instagr.am/p/RsWuUghnG0/— Kaessa (@Kaessa) November 6, 2012
632 | Girth Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:38:36am |
Any time Tucker Carlson has a sad I watch this and picture him crying in his office.
633 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:38:44am |
I like it when parts of the media complain that other parts of the media are biased. I actually think the media's been a little too soft on Romney. Not biased in his favor mind you but not hitting him hard for his flip flopping.
634 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:39:31am |
re: #628 Gus
We are all Ghazins now.
//
Watch...today will be the day that MSNBC and CNN will pick to grab one of my posts and air it. I can hear it now...
Wolf Blitzer: "Now get this...some blogger by the name of darthGHAZI says Mitt Romney can go fuck himself with an auger. Yes, an AUGER. Our own correspondent Dana Loesch knows something about fucking oneself with power tools...Dana."
635 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:40:00am |
Bogus Romney GM/Jeep/China radio ad still running in Toledo - just heard it while driving between precincts.— Jonathan Cohn (@CitizenCohn) November 6, 2012
637 | Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:40:51am |
re: #618 NJDhockeyfan
So, if personhood becomes the land of the law, can a fetus vote? I mean, they're inside of the adult, so if they can own property, why not vote?
638 | CarleeCork Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:41:59am |
Romney should have been dismissed for refusing to release his tax returns.
Period.
639 | OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:42:27am |
re: #603 NJDhockeyfan
We have to show an ID every year there is an election. Nobody complained when I was there this morning.
ID is not the problem, however, changing what qualifies as ID at the eleventh hour is.
640 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:42:31am |
re: #635 Gus
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I think there's going to be backlash against Romney for that lie. When frigging Chrysler has to call him out on it, you know he stepped in deep doo doo.
641 | Kronocide Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:42:33am |
re: #637 Joanne
So, if personhood becomes the land of the law, can a fetus vote? I mean, they're inside of the adult, so if they can own property, why not vote?
First you let fetuses vote, then corporations, then dogs and cows will vote and we'll all go to hell.
642 | SteelGHAZI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:42:52am |
re: #635 Gus
Still running here too. Saw it earlier this morning. So stupid.
643 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:42:58am |
Wingnuts DERPING the Chrysler/Ford/GM election day off:
Wont be buying a chrysler RT @eavesdropann: Chrysler Gives Its Union-Packed Workforce The Day Off To Vote For Obama... shar.es/G3MES"— Freedomwarrior(@Freedomwarrior) November 6, 2012
644 | dragonath Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:43:26am |
re: #607 Joanne
I just wish we had a functioning press. But the kind of totemic significance that MSNBC enjoys among liberals just because they were the only network pushing back against Romney is troubling for the long term.
We need much better investigative reporting. Even the National Review could be useful if they were doing real reporting and not trying to be NewsMax Lite.
I suppose that's the point Killgore wanted to make, but he had to draw a false equivalence once again.
645 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:43:43am |
re: #637 Joanne
Heh. Not unless gestation takes 18+ years...
646 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:44:19am |
*sigh*
A friend of mine just posted the wingnut derp about Obamacare requiring microchip implants in all Americans in 2013. WTF.
647 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:44:41am |
re: #643 Sheila Broflovski
Wingnuts DERPING the Chrysler/Ford/GM election day off:
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I'm sure Killgore Trout will be along shortly to condemn this unamerican boycott.
648 | SteelGHAZI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:45:03am |
re: #646 Lidane
WTF, where do people come up with this shit?
649 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:45:08am |
re: #643 Sheila Broflovski
Wingnuts DERPING the Chrysler/Ford/GM election day off:
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Hahahaha.
650 | dragonath Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:45:21am |
re: #646 Lidane
*sigh*
A friend of mine just posted the wingnut derp about Obamacare requiring microchip implants in all Americans in 2013. WTF.
Well, that would settle the Voter ID issue, wouldn't it? Conservatives for Obama!
651 | Girth Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:45:36am |
re: #643 Sheila Broflovski
Wingnuts DERPING the Chrysler/Ford/GM election day off:
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Most people who live in the real world commend employers for giving time off to vote.
652 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:46:24am |
re: #648 SteelGHAZI
WTF, where do people come up with this shit?
Another friend and I had to point out that it's bullshit both by linking to Snopes and by reminding her that we don't even have a national ID card in this country. The idea that mandatory microchips are going to be implanted in people is laughable.
653 | Tigger2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:46:31am |
re: #643 Sheila Broflovski
Wingnuts DERPING the Chrysler/Ford/GM election day off:
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I think everyone possible should have election day off.
654 | allegro Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:46:58am |
I am so glad I decided to vote early last week. My schedule was full so I considered waiting until today. During an errand run, I drove past the community center and didn't see a lot of cars. I also thought about an ad I'd seen by Michelle Obama encouraging early voting cuz ya just never know what could happen on election day. That actually influenced my decision so I darted in and out in like 15 minutes. It was great.
My nephew and his wife came for the night Saturday on a lay-over from their flight from London. My niece brought me a gift - one helluva cold. I feel like shit and know I'm a walking germ bomb. Michelle was right, ya just never know and I'm so glad now I took her advice and voted early cuz there's no way I'm going anywhere today. Blows my election party plans for the evening which is a bummer but I have a lovely bottle of cold medicine (Merlot) and y'all. Can't beat that!
655 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:47:01am |
re: #651 Girth
Most people who live in the real world commend employers for giving time off to vote.
They're making shit up that Chrysler TOLD THEM to vote for Obama (you know, like some employers ORDERED THEIR WORKERS to vote for Romney or be fired)
656 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:47:15am |
re: #648 SteelGHAZI
WTF, where do people come up with this shit?
657 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:47:25am |
Driving to the subway station I saw a lot of cars at a polling place and a long line. It was about ten minutes before they open. Participation looks high. Great! But I have to wonder-Absentee and vote by mail is easy. So why wait and stand in line? Even if you are undecided until today, you can just drop your mail ballot at any polling place. Any polling place.
So why even have to think about the time, big bad intimidation, traffic, the crowd....
658 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:47:54am |
The Ultimate Mitt #Romney Flip-Flop Collection: youtu.be/2x2W4GhSLlQ #VoteObamaHappy Election Day #GoVote #TeamObama #USA #NASCAR #NFL— Gus (@Gus_802) November 6, 2012
659 | nines09 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:49:26am |
Just cast my vote for "1000 Years Of Darkness" and I feel GREAT!
660 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:49:45am |
661 | Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:49:57am |
re: #641 Ghazicide
First you let fetuses vote, then corporations, then dogs and cows will vote and we'll all go to hell.
So THIS is what Santorum was worried about! Dog on vote!
662 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:50:13am |
re: #633 HappyWarrior
I like it when parts of the media complain that other parts of the media are biased. I actually think the media's been a little too soft on Romney. Not biased in his favor mind you but not hitting him hard for his flip flopping.
I think the media in general has been soft on both candidates although the fact checkers have been a source for reporters to call out some of the BS. Technically speaking, by Pew's metric, you could say the fact checkers were biased against Romney since they labeled his claims false more often. You could also say the pollsters are biased against Romney because they show Obama doing better. But the argument doesn't hold up because the fact checkers and the pollsters use the same methodology for both sides so they are being fair. The fringe partisan cable networks (MSNBC/FOX) don't use the same criteria when judging both sides so they're coverage becomes skewed.
One of the things I've noticed about the accusations of "Magic Balance Fairy" is that people start to think their side is somehow immune and cannot be judged by the same standard. It's faulty logic.
663 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:50:14am |
Long lines and some broken scanning machines in a few NYC polling places. In other words, SNAFU.
665 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:51:14am |
re: #657 Daniel Ballard
Driving to the subway station I saw a lot of cars at a polling place and a long line. It was about ten minutes before they open. Participation looks high. Great! But I have to wonder-Absentee and vote by mail is easy. So why wait and stand in line? Even if you are undecided until today, you can just drop your mail ballot at any polling place. Any polling place.
So why even have to think about the time, big bad intimidation, traffic, the crowd....
I still can't believe LA finally got a subway.
666 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:51:18am |
@freedomwarrior @eavesdropann Guess u will be buying a foreign car then! GM & Ford also give the day off to vote!— Babushka For Obama (@viciousbabushka) November 6, 2012
667 | Girth Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:51:33am |
re: #655 Sheila Broflovski
They're making shit up that Chrysler TOLD THEM to vote for Obama (you know, like some employers ORDERED THEIR WORKERS to vote for Romney or be fired)
Projection is fundamental to the wingnut fantasy world.
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
668 | Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:52:12am |
re: #644 dragonath
I just wish we had a functioning press. But the kind of totemic significance that MSNBC enjoys among liberals just because they were the only network pushing back against Romney is troubling for the long term.
We need much better investigative reporting. Even the National Review could be useful if they were doing real reporting and not trying to be NewsMax Lite.
I suppose that's the point Killgore wanted to make, but he had to draw a false equivalence once again.
I agree. Call bullshit wherever it lies (no pun intended). I watch MSNBC and I have seen every one of the hosts there tear into Obama when he does something they don't like. Shultz and Maddow, once they dig their heels in, will absolutely rip Obama for weeks on end.
Not once would Fox rip into a Republican.
We need a functioning press to inform the electorate. Period. Wherever the chips may lie. If a pol fucks up, we need to know. No matter if that pol is a Dem or Repub.
669 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:52:27am |
re: #659 nines09
Just cast my vote for "1000 Years Of Darkness" and I feel GREAT!
I voted for Satan.
670 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:54:01am |
re: #669 NJDhockeyfan
I didn't know Miroslav was on the ballot. /
671 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:54:30am |
672 | blueraven Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:54:52am |
re: #662 Killgore Trout
I think the media in general has been soft on both candidates although the fact checkers have been a source for reporters to call out some of the BS. Technically speaking, by Pew's metric, you could say the fact checkers were biased against Romney since they labeled his claims false more often. You could also say the pollsters are biased against Romney because they show Obama doing better. But the argument doesn't hold up because the fact checkers and the pollsters use the same methodology for both sides so they are being fair. The fringe partisan cable networks (MSNBC/FOX) don't use the same criteria when judging both sides so they're coverage becomes skewed.
One of the things I've noticed about the accusations of "Magic Balance Fairy" is that people start to think their side is somehow immune and cannot be judged by the same standard. It's faulty logic.
Well considering that Fox news barely covered the 47% comments I can see why Pew would come to its conclusion.
Also I wonder how they rate all those Benghazi "special reports"?
673 | SteelGHAZI Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:55:00am |
re: #669 NJDhockeyfan
Funny way of spelling Cthulu there.
674 | OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:55:09am |
I guess I had to jump on the bandwagon too.
Just for a little while...
675 | Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:55:17am |
re: #653 Tigger2
I think everyone possible should have election day off.
Not just the day off, all retail outlets should not be allowed to have shopping specials on election day. This should be a national holiday for all workers.
676 | Mattand Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:55:50am |
re: #662 Killgore Trout
One of the things I've noticed about the accusations of "Magic Balance Fairy" is that people start to think their side is somehow immune and cannot be judged by the same standard. It's faulty logic.
The MBF accusations come up when people say stuff like Rachel Maddow is no different than Glenn Beck, since they both have a partisan point of view.
One is a highly educated political commentator who researches the hell out of her material, and will admit when she's wrong. The other is an over-the-top demagogue who knows how to fire up his audience with bullshit that is easily disproven with minimal effort.
What's frustrating is when obviously intelligent people push this kind of nonsense ad nauseum.
677 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:56:13am |
re: #671 sattv4u2
You'll get 5 minutes for boarding; and 2 minutes for interference for that pun.
Be happy you don't get a game misconduct /
678 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:56:19am |
re: #675 Joanne
Not just the day off, all retail outlets should not be allowed to have shopping specials on election day. This should be a national holiday for all workers.
So who is going to work at the stores if everyone gets the day off? Illegals?
679 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:56:33am |
OK, this is the weirdest plagiarism situation I have ever been in. The kid copied nine pages from the Koran (in translation) and turned it in as part of her fiction portfolio. I swear, I do not know if the appropriate charge is 'plagiarism' or 'blasphemy'. I guess I'll go with the first, since the second is not actually against school rules.
680 | Kronocide Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:56:42am |
re: #662 Killgore Trout
One of the things I've noticed about the accusations of "Magic Balance Fairy" is that people start to think their side is somehow immune and cannot be judged by the same standard. It's faulty logic.
They can be judged by the same standard. What you seem to not understand is that both candidates say different things and do different things: applying the same standards will end up with different results.
Is there any doubt that total amount of and depth of falsehoods coming from Obama pale in comparison to Romney? Saying 'they both lie' when considering this truth is about as unobjective as saying 'Romney never lies' or 'Obama lies more.'
681 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:58:37am |
re: #676 Mattand
What's frustrating is when obviously intelligent people push this kind of nonsense ad nauseum.
At this point I just ignore it and deploy sarcasm most of the time. I will occasionally try to reason with people who think that Obama has been let off "just as lightly" as Romney by the media, but it's kind of pointless when they refuse to acknowledge basic facts.
682 | Petero1818 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 8:58:48am |
re: #679 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, this is the weirdest plagiarism situation I have ever been in. The kid copied nine pages from the Koran (in translation) and turned it in as part of her fiction portfolio. I swear, I do not know if the appropriate charge is 'plagiarism' or 'blasphemy'. I guess I'll go wOK, this is the weirdest plagiarism situation I have ever been in. The kid copied nine pages from the Koran (in translation) and turned it in as part of her fiction portfolio. I swear, I do not know if the appropriate charge is 'plagiarism' or 'blasphemy'. I guess I'll go with the first, since the second is not actually against school rules.ith the first, since the second is not actually against school rules.
I think he deserves an A for Allah hu akbar!////
683 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:00:59am |
re: #662 Killgore Trout
One of the things I've noticed about the accusations of "Magic Balance Fairy" is that people start to think their side is somehow immune and cannot be judged by the same standard.
The thing that I get a chuckle out of it is when someone says "MBF" it somehow is supposed to negate the fact that what you're pointing out has no validity!!
"I'm showing that your side does 'x', therefore you can't show me that 'my' side does the same"
684 | Girth Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:01:07am |
re: #679 SanFranciscoZionist
I swear, I do not know if the appropriate charge is 'plagiarism' or 'blasphemy'.
Nothing wrong with blasphemy. Plagiarists on the other hand will burn in the fires of Hell.
Or something like that.
685 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:01:09am |
re: #510 Tigger2
Dem lawyers need to be ass deep in this if it happens to make sure we don't have a repeat of "2000" debacle.
If Florida fucks up again, I advocate the solution proposed by this great American:
686 | DelusionDeluge Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:02:13am |
Hey Fox News viewer: that's not "voter intimidation". That's "you having not stood near a black person for more than a few minutes since the last election or longer". See a shrink.
687 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:02:14am |
re: #662 Killgore Trout
One of the things I've noticed about the accusations of "Magic Balance Fairy" is that people start to think their side is somehow immune and cannot be judged by the same standard. It's faulty logic.
No, very few people here think their 'side' is immune. The vast majority of Obama supporters here can quickly and easily tell you things that Obama has been either wrong in doing or deceptive about doing.
What you've done-- almost cleverly diametrically opposite to the slant of your post-- is show what's meant by 'magical balance fairy'. You kind of took it meta-- you complained about the effects of people acknowledging that both sides aren't equal while you said something that pretended both 'sides' are equal, by using a superlative.
It's semantically interesting derp.
688 | Mattand Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:02:38am |
re: #679 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, this is the weirdest plagiarism situation I have ever been in. The kid copied nine pages from the Koran (in translation) and turned it in as part of her fiction portfolio. I swear, I do not know if the appropriate charge is 'plagiarism' or 'blasphemy'. I guess I'll go with the first, since the second is not actually against school rules.
Plagiarism is probably the best way to go, as the bar for blasphemy is such a moving target ("I dont' believe in God." "How dare you insult me!!!"
Is he/she trying to make a point about religion, or engaging in some parent-approved Muslim bashing?
689 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:02:56am |
re: #679 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, this is the weirdest plagiarism situation I have ever been in. The kid copied nine pages from the Koran (in translation) and turned it in as part of her fiction portfolio. I swear, I do not know if the appropriate charge is 'plagiarism' or 'blasphemy'. I guess I'll go with the first, since the second is not actually against school rules.
Maybe you're missing a 3rd option; "performance art". Maybe the kid was trying to make a point. Maybe talk to her about it. You might get an interesting answer.
691 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:03:43am |
re: #686 DelusionDeluge
If a black man in uniform is not intimidating, neither would a white cop be, right? Or a billboard pointing it's a crime to double vote?
692 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:03:54am |
re: #683 sattv4u2
The thing that I get a chuckle out of it is when someone says "MBF" it somehow is supposed to negate the fact that what you're pointing out has no validity!!
"I'm showing that your side does 'x', therefore you can't show me that 'my' side does the same"
I think you're using one too many negatives in your first statement there - don't you mean that it's supposed to negate the fact that what you're pointing out has some validity?
In any case, I think the point people are making is that Romney's lies are of a whole different order of magnitude to what might be called "politics as usual".
Here's a challenge for you - go and find five examples of Obama taking a policy position and then the exact opposite position, with youtube clips to back it up. I think it would take you a while.
With Romney I am willing to bet you could do it in three minutes flat.
693 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:03:58am |
694 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:04:34am |
re: #687 Obdicut
It's semantically interesting derp.
It's like a game they play - a game with words!
695 | Flounder Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:05:01am |
Suzuki is dropping out of the US car market.
[Link: money.cnn.com...]
I have owned two, a Tracker and a SX4. Good cars, but expensive to fix, crappy resale.
696 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:05:13am |
re: #692 iossarian
I think you're using one too many negatives in your first statement there - don't you mean that it's supposed to negate the fact that what you're pointing out has some validity?
Yeah , thanks,,, quintuplet muti-tasking here at work, with LGF being (sadly) low on the priority list
697 | Girth Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:05:24am |
698 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:05:31am |
re: #691 Daniel Ballard
If a black man in uniform is not intimidating, neither would a white cop be, right? Or a billboard pointing it's a crime to double vote?
Depends - how many black men in uniform have actually killed white people for the single "crime" of being white?
699 | sattv4u2 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:06:07am |
700 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:06:52am |
re: #688 Mattand
Plagiarism is probably the best way to go, as the bar for blasphemy is such a moving target ("I dont' believe in God." "How dare you insult me!!!"
Is he/she trying to make a point about religion, or engaging in some parent-approved Muslim bashing?
Observant Muslim. I think she's trying to avoid the assingment, and assumed I wouldn't recognize what I was reading.
701 | Jolo5309 Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:07:13am |
re: #676 Mattand
The MBF accusations come up when people say stuff like Rachel Maddow is no different than Glenn Beck, since they both have a partisan point of view.
One is a highly educated political commentator who researches the hell out of her material, and will admit when she's wrong. The other is an over-the-top demagogue who knows how to fire up his audience with bullshit that is easily disproven with minimal effort.
What's frustrating is when obviously intelligent people push this kind of nonsense ad nauseum.
Shorter version for those with less time...
One is a highly educated political commentator and the other is Glenn Beck.
702 | Randall Gross Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:08:52am |
One update on Nate Silver - he tweeted this am that the election is going to be close all across the nation, that he's not predicting a landslide. So you might want to update with the words "electoral college landslide".
703 | Mattand Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:09:04am |
re: #701 Jolo5309
Shorter version for those with less time...
One is a highly educated political commentator and the other is Glenn Beck.
I actually thought about writing that.
704 | Joanne Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:09:09am |
re: #678 Sheila Broflovski
So who is going to work at the stores if everyone gets the day off? Illegals?
Well, there has to be some outlets open (drug stores, hospitals, etc.) What I was getting at was that people shouldn't take a day off (like Labor Day) to spend it shopping Black (Red and Blue?) Tuesday specials.
705 | dragonath Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:09:41am |
re: #676 Mattand
re: #668 Joanne
Oh, Fox will rip into a Republican. From the Right. MSNBC usually goes after Obama on his left. That much I will grant.
But Fox uses race-baiting, anti-science propaganda, and intentionally ignores context. There is no way any serious commenter could possibly compare the two.
706 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:09:58am |
Conservative group's poll-watching operations blocked in Ohio is.gd/BhUiZJ Focus was on predominantly black neighborhoods.— Mark Follman (@markfollman) November 6, 2012
708 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:11:31am |
709 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:11:59am |
Sean Hannity tweets his completed ballot, in apparent violation of state law thkpr.gs/U6YTZ3— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) November 6, 2012
710 | Mattand Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:11:59am |
re: #700 SanFranciscoZionist
Observant Muslim. I think she's trying to avoid the assingment, and assumed I wouldn't recognize what I was reading.
That's too funny. I'd love to see the look on her face when you call her out on this.
On the other hand, in some countries, if she passed off passages of the Koran as fiction, she'd have bigger problems than receiving a failing grade.
711 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:12:25am |
re: #698 iossarian
Oh bull. People of whatever color and professional persuasion are part of everyday life. That does not change near a polling place.
712 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:13:51am |
Outrageous Outrage!!!
Philly GOP: Poll inspectors being ousted for Dems
Court-appointed Republican poll inspectors are being forcibly removed from voting stations in some Philadelphia wards and replaced in some cases by Democratic inspectors and even members of the Black Panthers, according to GOP officials.
Secrets just received this memo from GOP officials:
The Philadelphia GOP is reporting that court appointed Minority (read GOP) Inspectors are being thrown out of polling locations in several Wards.
These Inspectors are election officials - again, court appointed -- and are reportedly being thrown out by the Head Judges of Elections (these Judges are elected Democrats) and being replaced by Democrats.
*sniff*Smells like bullshit around here...*sniff*
713 | Mattand Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:14:13am |
re: #708 Varek Raith
Judge orders partisans to stop asking voters for ID outside Homestead polling place
Tonight, on this episode of Stories You Will Never, Ever Hear on Fox News.
714 | dragonath Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:14:20am |
re: #706 Lidane
To get an idea of the history of Republican "poll-watching" in minority neighborhoods, check out the stories about Justice Rehnquist back when he was in Arizona. Pretty sick stuff.
716 | erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:15:34am |
re: #708 Varek Raith
Judge orders partisans to stop asking voters for ID outside Homestead polling place
DAMN THOSE ACTIVIST JUDGES!!!1
717 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:15:47am |
re: #708 Varek Raith
Judge orders partisans to stop asking voters for ID outside Homestead polling place
Voting While Black.
718 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:15:57am |
Matt Taibi of Rolling Stone is in Lubbock today to observe the "Far Right's reaction to tonights election results." He couldn't have picked a better place.
He was a guest today on the Wade Wilkes radio show with local Dem chair Kenny Ketner.
720 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:17:10am |
WATCH: John McCain tells hecklers to "shut up" huff.to/TuMzDu— HuffPost Politics (@HuffPostPol) November 6, 2012
721 | dragonath Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:18:30am |
re: #712 ghazidor
I can tell you that in in the days before the election, I was hearing stories about how some precincts north of me were turning away Democratic poll watchers.
The system is a lot more messed up than it possibly should be, and only the unheralded vigilance of very dedicated people keeps things clean.
722 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:20:38am |
What right wing racism?
WND: Barack & Michelle Obama are pawns of Satan; black pastors are "godless servants of the devil" bit.ly/YSnmGd— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 6, 2012
723 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:21:02am |
724 | 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course) Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:21:14am |
re: #528 Girth
I also truly enjoyed voting against that grossly immoral ballot initiative. Ugh.
725 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:21:51am |
re: #719 Daniel Ballard
And the billboard?
Do you think it's more frequent for a black person to go to jail because they can't get a fair trial/afford a decent lawyer, or a white person?
726 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:21:57am |
Huh? RT @glennthrush Romney camp now saying internals attributed to their pollster showing Mitt up in Ohio, tied in WI, PA "are incorrect."— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) November 6, 2012
727 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:21:58am |
re: #711 Daniel Ballard
Oh bull. People of whatever color and professional persuasion are part of everyday life. That does not change near a polling place.
iossarian is making a perfectly valid point about the historical abuses of power by white people in uniform to disenfranchise blacks.
728 | alansfmd Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:22:03am |
...then why do I feel so nervous about the outcome???
I guess I'm worried the GOTV will be trumped by the STV*.
*(stop the vote)
729 | efuseakay Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:22:13am |
re: #716 erik_t
But. But. BUUUUT!!!!! NEW BLACK BANTHERSGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!
730 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:23:16am |
re: #695 Shropshire_Slasher
Good cars, but expensive to fix, crappy resale.
So, pretty much the same as any other car?
731 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:23:54am |
The hazards of Voting While Drunk
Trying to vote third time - ballot fails #nyfix #wth #romneywillwinanyway instagr.am/p/RsjzvYxQ-q/— Pamela Geller (@Atlasshrugs) November 6, 2012
732 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:24:12am |
re: #727 BARACK THE VOTE
iossarian is making a perfectly valid point about the historical abuses of power by white people in uniform to disenfranchise blacks.
A point which was, of course, missed in the general rush to equate a single black man at a polling station with an entire Republican-backed industry of voter disenfranchisement targeted at poor African Americans.
733 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:24:42am |
re: #721 dragonath
I can tell you that in in the days before the election, I was hearing stories about how some precincts north of me were turning away Democratic poll watchers.
The system is a lot more messed up than it possibly should be, and only the unheralded vigilance of very dedicated people keeps things clean.
"Minority Inspectors?" What the fuck is a "GOP court appointed minority inspector?" Don't they mean a GOP election observer? I honestly can't make heads or tails out of that one...
734 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:26:02am |
re: #733 ghazidor
"Minority Inspectors?" What the fuck is a "GOP court appointed minority inspector?" Don't they mean a GOP election observer? I honestly can't make heads or tails out of that one...
they're inspecting any minorities that turn up. /
735 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:26:07am |
re: #725 iossarian
I don't think any of that that has a darn thing to do with voting. Afraid of the polling place? The time? The trouble? Anything at all...
Vote by mail.
736 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:26:28am |
re: #731 Sheila Broflovski
She broke the law too.
[Link: law.justia.com...]
10. Shows his ballot after it is prepared for voting, to any person so as to reveal the contents, or solicits a voter to show the same; or,
737 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:26:46am |
A vote for Obama is a vote to keep this man out of the White House. #p2 #tlot #VoteObama #TeamObama twitter.com/Gus_802/status...— Gus (@Gus_802) November 6, 2012
739 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:27:26am |
740 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:27:52am |
Man. I bet there's a shitloads more violations of that law now that iphones and such are so prevalent.
741 | iossarian Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:28:26am |
re: #735 Daniel Ballard
I don't think any of that that has a darn thing to do with voting.
Then you are not really up to speed on the factors that influence voter turnout, and also apparently unable to appreciate that a functioning democracy relies on making it easier, not harder, for people to vote.
Got to run.
742 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:28:28am |
Oh lawd. Some moron is actually pushing back on my friend's FB, swearing up and down that a national, mandatory microchip implant in people WILL happen unless we change the government. You know, because the military already uses RFID and it's only a small step to implanting chips in people.
What a moron.
743 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:28:48am |
Whew, 1 1/2 hours to vote. First time I've seen a line that long at the polls. I'm not sure whether to be thrilled or worried.
744 | Flounder Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:29:44am |
re: #742 Lidane
I. already. have. mine. It. is. wonderful. Join. Us.
745 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:30:21am |
re: #743 Targetpractice
Whew, 1 1/2 hours to vote. First time I've seen a line that long at the polls. I'm not sure whether to be thrilled or worried.
Bigger turnout is better for Obama I'd say.
746 | erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:31:20am |
re: #729 efuseakay
But. But. BUUUUT!!!!! NEW BLACK BANTHERSGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!
That last bit sounds like Disney has already come up with some new Star Wars creatures.
747 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:32:01am |
re: #691 Daniel Ballard
If a black man in uniform is not intimidating, neither would a white cop be, right? Or a billboard pointing it's a crime to double vote?
re: #711 Daniel Ballard
Oh bull. People of whatever color and professional persuasion are part of everyday life. That does not change near a polling place.
re: #719 Daniel Ballard
And the billboard?
The billboards were put up only in urban, predominantly black neighborhoods in states where formerly imprisoned felons are allowed to vote. Now tell me that a person who has spent time in prison does not have a much greater apprehension about going back there. And then tell me that there aren't a much greater proportion of black Americans who have spent time in prison than white Americans.
Or tell me that it doesn't matter for some reason because they could vote by mail.
748 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:32:19am |
re: #745 HappyWarrior
Bigger turnout is better for Obama I'd say.
Yeah, but I saw more than my fair share of rednecks in that line. Higher turnout is good, but if its higher turn out of Republicans, we might be in trouble.
749 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:33:13am |
re: #748 Targetpractice
Yeah, but I saw more than my fair share of rednecks in that line. Higher turnout is good, but if its higher turn out of Republicans, we might be in trouble.
Yeah that's true. We'll see what happens here and nationwide I suppose.
750 | Flounder Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:33:39am |
re: #748 Targetpractice
So you are saying you saw a lotta mullets
751 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:35:17am |
re: #750 Shropshire_Slasher
So you are saying you saw a lotta mullets
Nah, 'round here, rednecks shy away from those. They go more for the ballcaps and unshaven look.
752 | Mattand Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:35:30am |
re: #742 Lidane
Oh lawd. Some moron is actually pushing back on my friend's FB, swearing up and down that a national, mandatory microchip implant in people WILL happen unless we change the government. You know, because the military already uses RFID and it's only a small step to implanting chips in people.
What a moron.
I get people insisting that Obama knowingly works with Al Queda. I'd actually prefer the microchip nitwits.
753 | Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:35:37am |
Beck: If Americans are 'So Dead Inside' That They Re-Elect Obama, Then 'We Have to be Destroyed'
On yesterday's radio program, Glenn Beck said that America is on the verge of reaping God's wrath and declared that if the American people are "so dead inside that they can no longer see the difference between good and evil" and re-elect a demagogue like President Obama, then "we have to be destroyed because we will be a remarkable evil on this planet":
Jeffress: Obama is 'Paving the Way for the Future Reign of the Antichrist'
754 | mr.fusion Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:35:50am |
re: #726 Lidane
[Embedded content]
hahahahahahaha
If you release internals saying you're up....and then the next day you come out and say those internals are wrong......well, you're probably not in a good spot
755 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:36:03am |
re: #741 iossarian
Then you are not really up to speed on the factors that influence voter turnout, and also apparently unable to appreciate that a functioning democracy relies on making it easier, not harder, for people to vote.
Got to run.
Too bad ya gotta go. Maybe you'll see this later.
I am up to speed on the claims that any little tiny thing is intimidation. Like billboards. Like a single black guy at a polling place. Or a cop in line to vote. or a billboard that states the law. People that easily intimidated have a personal problem, as in under motivated to vote. The indifferent voter is a problem. if that's a problem for one race or party more than the other well they have some people to persuade, not a system to fix.
Vote by mail fixes all of those issues easily and for the mere price of a postage stamp. Unless that's a poll tax? A stamp?
756 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:36:14am |
757 | erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:36:28am |
re: #731 Sheila Broflovski
The hazards of Voting While Drunk
I love the dumb shit that dumbshits try to get trending. #romneywillwinanyway. Yeah, that'll be going viral in about thirty seconds, Pam.
758 | Flounder Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:36:38am |
re: #751 Targetpractice
Ok, or maybe out of the twenty in line, only one full set of teeth.
759 | efuseakay Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:36:58am |
re: #746 erik_t
That last bit sounds like Disney has already come up with some new Star Wars creatures.
I'm George Lucas. Who the hell are you? :)
760 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:37:20am |
re: #753 Kragar
Beck: If Americans are 'So Dead Inside' That They Re-Elect Obama, Then 'We Have to be Destroyed'
Jeffress: Obama is 'Paving the Way for the Future Reign of the Antichrist'
I think this shit alone makes me that much more eager to vote for Obama. Fucking disgusting asshole. We deserve to be destroyed if we vote for Obama? Really, Glenn, fuck off and leave us alone forever.
761 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:37:57am |
re: #758 Shropshire_Slasher
Ok, or maybe out of the twenty in line, only one full set of teeth.
Ayep.
762 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:38:09am |
Obama Mural in Philadelphia Polling Place
Obama mural inside polling place in Philly. No wonder they are kicking out GOP officials. Photo [Link: t.co...]
UPDATE: A judge has reportedly ordered the mural to be covered up
763 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:38:30am |
re: #757 erik_t
I love the dumb shit that dumbshits try to get trending. #romneywillwinanyway. Yeah, that'll be going viral in about thirty seconds, Pam.
I did not realize she lives in New York. From the way she was Tweeting about Benghazi last week while NYC was getting slammed by Sandy, I thought she must be living in Bumblefuck, Missouri or someplace.
764 | Lidane Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:38:55am |
765 | Charleston Chew Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:38:59am |
re: #753 Kragar
Beck: If Americans are 'So Dead Inside' That They Re-Elect Obama, Then 'We Have to be Destroyed'
Jeffress: Obama is 'Paving the Way for the Future Reign of the Antichrist'
In other words, Beck says, "God damn America!"
Now where have I heard that before?
767 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:39:14am |
re: #753 Kragar
Beck: If Americans are 'So Dead Inside' That They Re-Elect Obama, Then 'We Have to be Destroyed'
Jeffress: Obama is 'Paving the Way for the Future Reign of the Antichrist'
Mere pawns? What an insult! I would hope to rate as a knight myself, and the Obamas should be at least bishops.
768 | Obdicut Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:40:58am |
re: #767 Shiplord Kirel
Mere pawns? What an insult! I would hope to rate as a knight myself, and the Obamas should be at least bishops.
God is a bastard. Satan only has pawns. Actually... I don't know if that's a bad thing. Depends how many pawns.
769 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:41:59am |
TCM is airing The Fountainhead right now...too bad I just discovered it with only twenty minutes left. A little Rand would have been fun today.
1949 version - Gary Cooper Not that recent shit from Hollywood.
770 | Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:43:30am |
771 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:44:53am |
re: #757 erik_t
I love the dumb shit that dumbshits try to get trending. #romneywillwinanyway. Yeah, that'll be going viral in about thirty seconds, Pam.
I feel sorry for the people waiting to vote while she fumbles with her ballot and tweets about it.
772 | Big Steve Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:45:12am |
Just read the original article for this post from Nate Silver....on his county map, just wanted to point out that the dark blue county surrounded by red and pink counties in SE Ohio is Athens County. Home of one of my alma maters - Ohio University, which dominates the county elections - Go Bobcats!
773 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:45:18am |
re: #770 Kragar
Oregon election worker fired for altering ballots to Republican straight ticket
When asked, he said "Mr. Morris said I had to produce a landslide for Romney or else he'll kill my family!"
///
774 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:45:23am |
re: #770 Kragar
Does that mean we can admit there is some fraud out there? Or do we still say it's too small to ever matter?
775 | Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:45:35am |
776 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:45:54am |
re: #769 Darthghazi
TCM is airing The Fountainhead right now...too bad I just discovered it with only twenty minutes left. A little Rand would have been fun today.
1949 version - Gary Cooper Not that recent shit from Hollywood.
Saw that when I took philosophy in HS. It along with Phil Donohue's interview of Rand in the early 80's are a large of part of why I will never embrace objectivism. I can't like or even respect a philosophy that sees charity as immoral. It's that simple.
777 | erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:46:10am |
re: #770 Kragar
Oregon election worker fired for altering ballots to Republican straight ticket
Five years in prison? Sounds about right.
778 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:46:27am |
Astronauts cast votes from space with digital ballot
(CNN) - Every vote counts, including absentee ballots cast from the Earth's orbit.
Mission Control at the Johnson Space Center in Houston emails a digital version of the ballot up to astronauts in the International Space Station.
When the ballot is complete, it comes back down to Earth on the same path.
The ballot is then sent to the voting authorities.
This system was made possible by a 1997 bill passed in Texas.
Most astronauts live in or near Houston.
779 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:46:38am |
re: #775 Kragar
Fox News begins election day with ‘alert’ over New Black Panthers
"Black people! Never a polling place! Dear God, how will democracy survive?!"
///
780 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:47:04am |
re: #775 Kragar
Fox News begins election day with ‘alert’ over New Black Panthers
Typical Fox. Scare the old right wingers about minorities. I fucking loathe those fuckers for all the race baiting they do.
782 | erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:47:42am |
re: #774 Daniel Ballard
Does that mean we can admit there is some fraud out there? Or do we still say it's too small to ever matter?
I'm sure you can readily point to someone here saying that those found in violation of the law shouldn't be prosecuted. Since that's what we're talking about here -- prosecution of discovered violators. Not about millions of dollars a year of spending for voter ID laws.
Right? You're not just moving the goal posts into the next county, right?
783 | Eventual Carrion Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:48:14am |
re: #762 NJDhockeyfan
Obama Mural in Philadelphia Polling Place
UPDATE: A judge has reportedly ordered the mural to be covered up
Now I will say that is wrong in a voting place. I did a 4 year stint as Judge of Elections for my precinct here in NW PA and it was also a rule that is someone came in the polling area with a campaign button or shirt that they would have to be asked to remove/cover it for the time they were in the voting area. Fine to display outside of 10 feet of the voting area, but not within the voting area. Same should be observed for the mural until person on mural isn't a candidate any longer..
784 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:48:19am |
Caught the end of Morning Joke. They were saying there'd be no concession until tomorrow at the earliest. I hope we get a couple of decisive wins in places like FL, VA, and PA tonight so Ohio and their fucked up Secretary of State can't drag this shit out.
Actually, VA, PA, NH, CO, and NV will seal it tonight with 281 for Obama.
[Link: www.270towin.com...]
785 | CarleeCork Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:49:17am |
786 | Eventual Carrion Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:49:36am |
re: #768 Obdicut
God is a bastard. Satan only has pawns. Actually... I don't know if that's a bad thing. Depends how many pawns.
I'm a minion of satan myself. But my duties are mostly ceremonial.
//
787 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:49:37am |
788 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:50:54am |
Obama's GOTV team is persistent. That's twice that my landline has been called to ask if I and the others in my family have voted and this is after we got home from voting.
789 | efuseakay Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:51:01am |
re: #774 Daniel Ballard
Does that mean we can admit there is some fraud out there? Or do we still say it's too small to ever matter?
How would a photo ID help to prevent fraud in this instance?
790 | Eventual Carrion Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:51:10am |
re: #774 Daniel Ballard
Does that mean we can admit there is some fraud out there? Or do we still say it's too small to ever matter?
The election worker didn't show their ID before fucking with the ballots?
791 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:51:25am |
re: #782 erik_t
Via HAVA, and with time to get ID out to all who want it, I support Voter ID.
I categorically object to deliberate skews in the process.
Voter ID is not in itself biased. Only when people in places with inadequate checks and balances in place are allowed to rule is this a problem.
What about the undiscovered violators and a really close race?
792 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:51:48am |
re: #773 Targetpractice
When asked, he said "Mr. Morris said I had to produce a landslide for Romney or else he'll kill my family!"
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She.
793 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:52:03am |
re: #783 Eventual Carrion
Now I will say that is wrong in a voting place. I did a 4 year stint as Judge of Elections for my precinct here in NW PA and it was also a rule that is someone came in the polling area with a campaign button or shirt that they would have to be asked to remove/cover it for the time they were in the voting area. Fine to display outside of 10 feet of the voting area, but not within the voting area. Same should be observed for the mural until person on mural isn't a candidate any longer..
Is that recommended for all? Saw a woman today wearing Romney-Ryan gear today. I thought it was really tacky or is that provision only applied to people working in the polls.
794 | Kragar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:52:34am |
795 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:52:38am |
My kids are playing on icivics.com
I've checked--no little animated figures telling the other little animated figures that "youse better vote for da boss, see?"
796 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:52:47am |
re: #784 Darthghazi
Caught the end of Morning Joke. They were saying there'd be no concession until tomorrow at the earliest. I hope we get a couple of decisive wins in places like FL, VA, and PA tonight so Ohio and their fucked up Secretary of State can't drag this shit out.
Actually, VA, PA, NH, CO, and NV will seal it tonight with 281 for Obama.
[Link: www.270towin.com...]
Thing is, I kinda have to agree, I don't see a concession earlier than tomorrow. Willard will be up all night, hoping that the margins are such that he can litigate enough final results to win. But if he loses VA and either OH or FL, then it's over.
797 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:52:49am |
I wonder if Nate Silver or actually qualified statistics/vote experts agree?
Former DNC Chair Howard Dean: The Only Way We Lose Is Through Fraud
798 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:53:34am |
Turnout is big here in Northern Va. That's a good sign for both Obama and Kaine.
799 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:54:13am |
re: #798 HappyWarrior
Turnout is big here in Northern Va. That's a good sign for both Obama and Kaine.
I'm personally not fond of Kaine, but will be happy to send him to D.C. anyway.
800 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:54:14am |
re: #797 Daniel Ballard
I wonder if Nate Silver or actually qualified statistics/vote experts agree?
Former DNC Chair Howard Dean: The Only Way We Lose Is Through Fraud
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Silver hasn't commented on that but I wish Dean would shut up. I think it's very unlikely Romney wins myself but Dean doesn't need to be doing this.
801 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:54:19am |
802 | erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:54:23am |
re: #791 Daniel Ballard
What about the undiscovered violators and a really close race?
I'll tell ya what. I believe in reducing wasteful government spending. So you go find me some fucking proof that there's a meaningful level of voter fraud that would be stopped by requiring identification, and then maybe I can get behind such spending.
803 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:54:39am |
re: #797 Daniel Ballard
I wonder if Nate Silver or actually qualified statistics/vote experts agree?
Former DNC Chair Howard Dean: The Only Way We Lose Is Through Fraud
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Howard Dean has already declared a winner!
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804 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:54:44am |
re: #799 Targetpractice
I'm personally not fond of Kaine, but will be happy to send him to D.C. anyway.
Yeah I wish Webb had stayed put.
805 | efuseakay Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:55:18am |
806 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:56:02am |
Breaking: Exclusive photo of black panther spotted at polling place. #p2 #tlot #Obama #Wingnuts #Derp twitter.com/Gus_802/status...— Gus (@Gus_802) November 6, 2012
807 | bubba zanetti Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:56:08am |
re: #775 Kragar
Fox News begins election day with ‘alert’ over New Black Panthers
HULKGAZI SMASHGAZI
808 | NJDhockeyfan Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:56:40am |
re: #807 bubba zanetti
HULKGAZI SMASHGAZI
Navy Seals!
Former SEALs, special forces to observe, report Black Panthers at polling places
809 | erik_t Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:57:09am |
re: #802 erik_t
Bizarre how little conservatives actually believe in maintaining the status quo sometimes.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it add complexity and cost.
810 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:57:23am |
re: #808 NJDhockeyfan
Navy Seals!
Former SEALs, special forces to observe, report Black Panthers at polling places
Oooo. Breitbart.
811 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:58:03am |
re: #802 erik_t
I don't expect everyone to support HAVA. I do. As to wasteful spending, we underspend on the process big time. Shamefully. Crappy machines variable standards, inadequate polling places (now that is real disenfranchising efforts and sometimes just states being cheap)
812 | OhNoZombies! Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:58:04am |
Yesterday, I saw a whole lot of people who would normally be deemed unlikely voters.
T'was a beautiful sight to see.
There was one lady though, who may have been a Romney voter, that tried to whisper something about 'getting more government money'.
I don't know if I was the only one who heard her, but I sure as hell let her know that I did.
I didn't say a word, but apparently I have poor control of my facial expressions, because she didn't say anything else like that in the 4 & 1/2 hours we were out there.
813 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:58:12am |
ITZ A CONSPIRAGHAZI!
Ballot refused! Had get back on line and get new ballot #romneywillwinanyway #wth #nyfix instagr.am/p/Rsn09QRQyI/— Pamela Geller (@Atlasshrugs) November 6, 2012
814 | darthstar Tue, Nov 6, 2012 9:59:57am |
re: #796 Targetpractice
Thing is, I kinda have to agree, I don't see a concession earlier than tomorrow. Willard will be up all night, hoping that the margins are such that he can litigate enough final results to win. But if he loses VA and either OH or FL, then it's over.
If he loses VA and Obama carries IA, CO and NV, President Obama will be giving an acceptance speech at 11pm and he can simply say that he never got a concession call from Mitt Romney as he must have set his clock back too far on Saturday...yes, mocking will be in order.
815 | bubba zanetti Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:00:18am |
re: #808 NJDhockeyfan
Navy Seals!
Former SEALs, special forces to observe, report Black Panthers at polling places
WOLVERINES!
816 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:01:11am |
re: #762 NJDhockeyfan
Obama Mural in Philadelphia Polling Place
UPDATE: A judge has reportedly ordered the mural to be covered up
I was going to vote for Romney, I swear I was, but then I walked into the polling place and saw that big mural of Obama. Suddenly I couldn't help myself, it was like it brainwashed me or something, next thing I knew I had voted for Obama!
/ j/k it really should be covered up so as not to suggest state sponsored favoritism.
817 | mr.fusion Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:01:21am |
re: #814 Darthghazi
If he loses VA and Obama carries IA, CO and NV, President Obama will be giving an acceptance speech at 11pm and he can simply say that he never got a concession call from Mitt Romney as he must have set his clock back too far on Saturday...yes, mocking will be in order.
You forget OH....If Obama wins VA and OH then it's over. If he's winning those two states big then this thing might be called by 9
818 | bubba zanetti Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:02:53am |
819 | Gus Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:02:54am |
re: #808 NJDhockeyfan
Navy Seals!
Former SEALs, special forces to observe, report Black Panthers at polling places
Garbage.
820 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:03:07am |
re: #814 Darthghazi
If he loses VA and Obama carries IA, CO and NV, President Obama will be giving an acceptance speech at 11pm and he can simply say that he never got a concession call from Mitt Romney as he must have set his clock back too far on Saturday...yes, mocking will be in order.
I wouldn't mock him. Kill him with kindness which is what he's already done by congratulating him on a spirited campaign. I somehow doubt Mitt will be this generous in defeat or victory tonight.
821 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:04:31am |
re: #797 Daniel Ballard
I wonder if Nate Silver or actually qualified statistics/vote experts agree?
Former DNC Chair Howard Dean: The Only Way We Lose Is Through Fraud
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Do you think voter ID will stop all kinds of vote fraud? If so, you are sorely uninformed.
Do you not recognize yet that voter ID is voter suppression, primarily of minority voters?
822 | Mattand Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:06:02am |
re: #770 Kragar
Oregon election worker fired for altering ballots to Republican straight ticket
Yep, just the kind of thing voter ID will stop!!!
823 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:08:25am |
re: #813 Sheila Broflovski
ITZ A CONSPIRAGHAZI!
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If she would put her effing smart phone away long enough to vote maybe she could figure out how to fill out a ballot.
824 | efuseakay Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:10:52am |
re: #808 NJDhockeyfan
Navy Seals!
Former SEALs, special forces to observe, report Black Panthers at polling places
Any of those SEALS... black?
825 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:16:05am |
re: #821 wrenchwench
Do you think voter ID will stop all kinds of vote fraud? If so, you are sorely uninformed.
Do you not recognize yet that voter ID is voter suppression, primarily of minority voters?
Voter ID can and has been used as a device for the GOP. But that is an abuse. Stop the abuse and you have one more HAVA provision taken care of. Many laws have been abused. We rarely remove the law, we seek to remove the abuse.
826 | efuseakay Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:16:33am |
re: #762 NJDhockeyfan
Obama Mural in Philadelphia Polling Place
UPDATE: A judge has reportedly ordered the mural to be covered up
Who does that Obama person think he is anyway? President?!?!
I already voted 2 weeks ago, but my local precinct has the polls at the local church today. They should remove all murals of Jesus/Mary etc.!!!
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827 | efuseakay Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:17:54am |
re: #825 Daniel Ballard
Voter ID can and has been used as a device for the GOP. But that is an abuse. Stop the abuse and you have one more HAVA provision taken care of. Many laws have been abused. We rarely remove the law, we seek to remove the abuse.
You're asking the GOP to stop abuse that they are trying to use so they can win the election?
You typed that while laughing, right?
829 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:19:18am |
re: #825 Daniel Ballard
Voter ID can and has been used as a device for the GOP. But that is an abuse. Stop the abuse and you have one more HAVA provision taken care of. Many laws have been abused. We rarely remove the law, we seek to remove the abuse.
It's an abuse in and of itself. It is a device of the GOP in and of itself. It serves no purpose except to disenfranchise minority voters. You are mistaken that it will result in more secure elections. It will result in fewer minority voters, which is its sole purpose. You have fallen for the rightwing hype. Please wise up.
830 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:25:09am |
re: #829 wrenchwench
How familiar are you with the bipartisan law HAVA? I paged it for review today. We disagree on Voter ID as de facto disenfranchisement. But I have posted extensively on that before.
I think there are blue states that have ID and it is not changing the state result. States the GOP does not run, which should support my point that it's abuse.
[Link: ballotpedia.org...]
831 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:43:34am |
re: #727 BARACK THE VOTE
Abusive police are a red herring in this matter. Why-Among other reasons-Mail in voting.
832 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 10:45:06am |
re: #827 efuseakay
No I expect the government (justice dep. etc) to address the issue. How did you get THAT out of my post? Have we forgotten there are laws and people to enforce them?
833 | Eventual Carrion Tue, Nov 6, 2012 11:10:43am |
re: #793 HappyBenghazi
Is that recommended for all? Saw a woman today wearing Romney-Ryan gear today. I thought it was really tacky or is that provision only applied to people working in the polls.
It was a rule 3 years ago (my final year). No campaigning of any kind in the voting area. Candidate shirts and buttons were considered campaigning. Maybe in your area of the state the county Director of Elections doesn't harp on it very much, ours did. Snopes has some things about it, and mentions something from a little while back in PA about the law.
834 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 11:55:28am |
re: #830 Daniel Ballard
How familiar are you with the bipartisan law HAVA? I paged it for review today. We disagree on Voter ID as de facto disenfranchisement. But I have posted extensively on that before.
I think there are blue states that have ID and it is not changing the state result. States the GOP does not run, which should support my point that it's abuse.
[Link: ballotpedia.org...]
I am familiar with HAVA. I commented on your Page.
Yes, you have written extensively about voter ID. Yes, we disagree. What I have never seen from you is an acknowledgement of the racist nature of its effects. In other words, it keeps minorities from voting more than it keeps white people from voting. That bothers me. Does it bother you?
835 | Daniel Ballard Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:32:58pm |
re: #747 wrenchwench
re: #711 Daniel Ballard
re: #719 Daniel Ballard
The billboards were put up only in urban, predominantly black neighborhoods in states where formerly imprisoned felons are allowed to vote. Now tell me that a person who has spent time in prison does not have a much greater apprehension about going back there. And then tell me that there aren't a much greater proportion of black Americans who have spent time in prison than white Americans.
Or tell me that it doesn't matter for some reason because they could vote by mail.
Near dead thread but I owe you an answer :-)
IMHO
It's pretty simple. A polling place has no more threat for a black person than anywhere else, arguably less. It makes no sense to me that a person of any color who saw a billboard describing a law that they are not going to break keeps them away, I think that (if any) is a vanishingly small number of people. People that need to understand how to not be so easily intimidated. Seriously.
re: #834 wrenchwench
Sure it bothers me. The problem seems to have been really thoroughly addressed. I am skeptical of the real consequence of the small things. What if these things are on the same scale as fraud? Too small to have an effect. Does anyone have real solid numbers on these billboards or a cop at a polling place?
If we want to get into the tiny small margins as worthwhile because of close races, a point which I have struggled to convince many here, I want to include all of them. Quantified. Then we can look at what part of HAVA to emphasize. Until then, AFAIK, HAVA in all it's controversy has to be implemented evenly. Each part, every state.
836 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 6, 2012 7:36:25pm |
re: #835 Daniel Ballard
It makes no sense to me that a person of any color who saw a billboard describing a law that they are not going to break keeps them away, I think that (if any) is a vanishingly small number of people. People that need to understand how to not be so easily intimidated.
The fact that it makes no sense to you is irrelevant. It only shows an inability to put yourself in the shoes of another person who is very different from you, and has had a very different set of experiences from yours.
Sure it bothers me. The problem seems to have been really thoroughly addressed. I am skeptical of the real consequence of the small things. What if these things are on the same scale as fraud? Too small to have an effect. Does anyone have real solid numbers on these billboards or a cop at a polling place?
If we want to get into the tiny small margins as worthwhile because of close races, a point which I have struggled to convince many here, I want to include all of them. Quantified. Then we can look at what part of HAVA to emphasize. Until then, AFAIK, HAVA in all it's controversy has to be implemented evenly. Each part, every state.
HAVA does not call for photo ID. I'm fine with what it does call for. I'm not fine with states that want to require photo ID, which they are allowed to do, but not required to do under HAVA.
If you are not asking for photo ID as part of what you think should be 'evenly' implemented, then fine. If you are, you are in favor of disenfranchising minority voters.
Asking for 'solid numbers' on the impact of those billboards or cops at polling places sounds to me like "It's OK to discriminate if it can't be proved that it's having the desired effect".