Hilarious Animated Short: Music Therapy at the Mental Hospital for Animals

Inmates rock the asylum
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A short film created by Clément Picon, Manu Javelle and Beakus director Amael Isnard when graduating from France’s prestigious school Supinfocom. In a mental hospital for animals, four patients start making music with every object they can find. Featuring music by Tambour Battant the film was shown at Pictoplasma, OneDotZero, Anima Bruxelles, NYCFF New York, and Animafest Zagreb, picking up several awards along the way.

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1 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 1:56:06pm

That post yesterday about the Logic impaired abortion thing led me to do some poking around the web, it turns out that the “not your body” approach is a pretty popular prolife argument.

Here are more examples.

2 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:05:30pm

NSA denies Pres Obama knew about “spying” on Merkel, contrary to Telegraph article.

This is what happens when you listen to a HS dropout BS artist who cherry-picks what he steals and releases to others, who continue to cherry-pick without having all the information. It’s not hard to understand that you have only a certain amount of “intel” which doesn’t mean much out of context, but which the media will sensationalize, along with those you work with.

What, they, Snowden & Co, thought they had the entire package? That they’re smarter than the average intel employee with yrs of experience?

3 calochortus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:08:52pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Fun fact: Topologically the fetus is outside the body.

Even if you grant a fetus “personhood”,I’m not understanding why one person has a right to use my body’s organs and another doesn’t. Can anyone just take my kidney or demand a blood donation from me?

4 klys  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:10:42pm

re: #3 calochortus

Fun fact: Topologically the fetus is outside the body.

Even if you grant a fetus “personhood”,I’m not understanding why one person has a right to use my body’s organs and another doesn’t. Can anyone just take my kidney or demand a blood donation from me?

I suspect it comes down to because BABY. And also, slut.

5 calochortus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:14:52pm

re: #4 klys

I suspect it comes down to because BABY. And also, slut.

I’d like to see someone put forth a cogent argument that the life of a baby-an actual fully formed, kicking, breathing baby-is somehow more valuable than the life of a 20 year old.
Babies are adorable as a survival mechanism. What else would keep a parent from dropping a colicky 6 month old off in the forest over night so they could finally get some sleep?

6 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:17:05pm

Erk. Looks like I need a new kitchen faucet. The seals are leaking on this one.

Checked Amazon - there are more than 1000 kitchen faucets. OK, that’s too much choice. I do know I won’t be getting the one that costs $1,339.54, even though it does look pretty freaking cool: KOHLER K-6227-C12-vs Karbon Articulating Deck-Mount Kitchen Faucet With Black Tube, Vibrant Stainless.

7 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:17:09pm

re: #3 calochortus

re: #4 klys

Actually, gang, notions of bodily autonomy are much different in the pre-draft and post-draft generations. In fact the government can take both your kidneys and the ass below them and send the package up a hill against a machine gun. There are better approaches to the abortion question.

8 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:17:41pm

re: #2 Justanotherhuman

What, they Snowden & Co thought they had the entire package? That they’re smarter than the average intel employee with yrs of experience?

They’re dudebros, so yes. They do think they’re the smartest guys in the room.

9 calochortus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:18:28pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Wow, look at all the places leaks could happen in that faucet!
(Coolness not withstanding.)

10 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:18:37pm

Seriously. This is one awesome looking faucet.

11 wrenchwench  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:19:12pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Oooh, carbon fiber.

12 calochortus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:20:16pm

re: #7 Decatur Deb

Actually, gang, notions of bodily autonomy are much different in the pre-draft and post-draft generations. In fact the government can take both your kidneys and the ass below them and send the package up a hill against a machine gun. There are better approaches to the abortion question.

Like what?
Also, IIRC, even the military that can send your ass up that hill can no longer force you to be a blood donor.

13 dog philosopher  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:23:14pm

Vibrant Stainless

does it pulsate?

14 calochortus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:25:22pm

re: #7 Decatur Deb

I would also add there’s a difference in the unfortunate necessity to have soldiers, and randomly forcing women to have children just because one thinks they should.

I’m fully old enough to have listened to draft lotteries and have held my breath with worry about friends and family members, so this may be a gender difference as much as a generational one.

15 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:26:33pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

re: #11 wrenchwench

Neat looking faucet.

16 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:27:49pm

Egypt moving towards religious freedom

Constitution committee eliminates all barriers to building churches in Egypt

Egypt’s 50-member committee tasked with amending the suspended 2012 constitution adopted on Sunday a transitional article that will cancel existing restrictions regulating the building of new churches.


According to Ahram Arabic news website, the committee also initially adopted an article [47] which stipulates “absolute freedom of belief” for Egyptian citizens and endows the state with the responsibility to ensure free practice of religion.

However, under pressure from representatives of Egypt’s highest Sunni authority Al-Azhar, which has demanded that freedom of religion be restricted to the three monotheistic beliefs, the committee opted to postpone its vote on article 47 until Monday.

17 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:28:24pm

re: #12 calochortus

Like what?
Also, IIRC, even the military that can send your ass up that hill can no longer force you to be a blood donor.

Like “It is the express will of the people”. Your rights are always safer based on the interests of an informed electorate than relying on a philosophical principle.
Concerning the blood donor, I wouldn’t even disallow that. There is a considerable difference between what the military chooses to do and what it can do in extremis. Your military doctor specifically works for the commander, not for you. That is a real, overt policy.

18 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:33:30pm
19 calochortus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:34:22pm

re: #17 Decatur Deb

Like “It is the express will of the people”. Your rights are always safer based on the interests of an informed electorate than relying on a philosophical principle.

But what if it isn’t the express will of the people? If it were so throughout the country, we wouldn’t be discussing it here.

20 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:35:25pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Erk. Looks like I need a new kitchen faucet. The seals are leaking on this one.

Checked Amazon - there are more than 1000 kitchen faucets. OK, that’s too much choice. I do know I won’t be getting the one that costs $1,339.54, even though it does look pretty freaking cool: KOHLER K-6227-C12-vs Karbon Articulating Deck-Mount Kitchen Faucet With Black Tube, Vibrant Stainless.

No like.

21 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:36:11pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Because the United States is the only country in the history of ever to spy on anyone and that country will be shocked.

22 jaunte  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:36:32pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

I guess he has enough leaked material for a whole lifetime of pretending to be a journalist.

23 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:37:23pm

re: #19 calochortus

But what if it isn’t the express will of the people? If it were so throughout the country, we wouldn’t be discussing it here.

That’s the real danger you face and must counter. Enough people, legislators, and Supreme Court nominations, and anything is possible. Ask Dred Scott.

24 klys  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:39:40pm

re: #7 Decatur Deb

Actually, gang, notions of bodily autonomy are much different in the pre-draft and post-draft generations. In fact the government can take both your kidneys and the ass below them and send the package up a hill against a machine gun. There are better approaches to the abortion question.

It may very well be, but this is the approach that gets through to some people.

There could be an interesting discussion about what makes the draft acceptable as an override of bodily autonomy but I don’t think that it draws a very good parallel regarding medical procedures.

Your mileage may, of course, vary.

25 calochortus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:40:27pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

That’s the real danger you face and must counter. Enough people, legislators, and Supreme Court nominations, and anything is possible. Ask Dred Scott.

Precisely, and I think the argument that no one else is allowed to use your body like that without permission is something that needs to be pointed out to people to help counter the ‘but it (the fetus) depends on you’ argument.

26 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:40:49pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

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replies are fun to read!

27 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:41:05pm
28 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:44:44pm

re: #25 calochortus

Precisely, and I think the argument that no one else is allowed to use your body like that without permission is something that needs to be pointed out to people to help counter the ‘but it depends on you’ argument.

Still tripping over the word “allowed”. Sending fugitive slaves back to a state of zero personal autonomy was not only allowed, the SC made it mandatory. What we have here and now is far more ephemeral than young people realize. That’s why every damn election is “the most important election of our lives”.

29 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:47:02pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Erk. Looks like I need a new kitchen faucet. The seals are leaking on this one.

Checked Amazon - there are more than 1000 kitchen faucets. OK, that’s too much choice. I do know I won’t be getting the one that costs $1,339.54, even though it does look pretty freaking cool: KOHLER K-6227-C12-vs Karbon Articulating Deck-Mount Kitchen Faucet With Black Tube, Vibrant Stainless.

Heh. 2 stars.

no water flow
Had the original unit, worked fine until a joint fitting broke. Kohler replaced the unit now the water flow is so restricted having to buy a new faucet from another manufacturer. The unit is unusable in its present design

30 calochortus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:47:18pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

I think we are missing something in each other’s meaning here, suffice to say I think we’re on the same side and merely differ in what we feel is an effective approach.

31 klys  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:47:51pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

Still tripping over the word “allowed”. Sending fugitive slaves back to a state of zero personal autonomy was not only allowed, the SC made it mandatory. What we have here and now is far more ephemeral than young people realize. That’s why every damn election is “the most important election of our lives”.

So most people today would agree that this was a violation of personal rights.

If we can start from a standpoint that most people agree with and move forward logically from there, people find it harder to counter and are forced to really think about it in a different way, which might lead them to a different conclusion.

I mean, I agree with you that every election is important and unfortunately this right is far more tenuous than it should be. I think I am also well aware of just how fucking important this right is.

32 b.d.  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:48:29pm

If your entire shtick is that the NSA is spying on EVERYBODY, then why would anyone get fired up about a story on another nation being spied on?

33 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:49:47pm

Every time I read through Glenn Greenwald’s latest tweets, I’m left thinking, “Wow. What a dick.” One of the most unlikable, egomaniacal, flat out nasty characters I’ve encountered online.

34 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:50:49pm

Is @Lia_Kai22 a Glenn sockpuppet?

35 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:51:40pm

re: #32 b.d.

If your entire shtick is that the NSA is spying on EVERYBODY, then why would anyone get fired up about a story on another nation being spied on?

More to the point, why would anyone be surprised by the United States spying? Every country gathers intel. Also, the Cold War was a thing.

36 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:51:57pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Every time I read through Glenn Greenwald’s latest tweets, I’m left thinking, “Wow. What a dick.” One of the most unlikable, egomaniacal, flat nasty characters I’ve encountered online.

HE’S A JOURNALIST DOING JOURNALISM!!!!1!!!! HOW DARE YOU QUESTION A JOURNALIST!!!11!!!!!!11! YOU MUST BE BUTTHURT THAT HE IS SO MUCH BETTER AT JOURNALISM AND HUMAN BEINGHOOD THAN YOU ARE U POSER!!!!111

37 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:53:28pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

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So tomorrow there is going to be a “New” country. Cool. And welcome to the club.

38 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:53:34pm

When are we getting a Dudebro font?

39 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:54:15pm

re: #38 Vicious Babushka

When are we getting a Dudebro font?

We also need a “Please Proceed” sign.

40 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:54:18pm
41 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:54:27pm

re: #31 klys

So most people today would agree that this was a violation of personal rights.

If we can start from a standpoint that most people agree with and move forward logically from there, people find it harder to counter and are forced to really think about it in a different way, which might lead them to a different conclusion.

I mean, I agree with you that every election is important and unfortunately this right is far more tenuous than it should be. I think I am also well aware of just how fucking important this right is.

We’re getting warmer. The point i want to make in this 3-way is that there is effectively no such thing as a personal right. When the fighting rests (it never stops) there are only political realities. If you want to maintain the ‘right’ to chose, you must rely on a GOTV precinct roll, not a philosophy.

42 calochortus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:55:45pm

re: #40 Vicious Babushka

Excuse me? Someone tells women to “go get raped”? He (I can only assume it’s a ‘he’) must not have much of a social life.

43 b.d.  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:55:46pm

re: #37 Iwouldprefernotto

So tomorrow there is going to be a “New” country. Cool. And welcome to the club.

A LARGE new country tomorrow. I hope it is warm and has nice beaches.

44 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:56:01pm

my favorite reply to GG so far:

45 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:56:49pm

re: #39 Iwouldprefernotto

We also need a “Please Proceed” sign.

Please proceed, Governor!

Taken from the actual debate.

46 calochortus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:57:00pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

We’re getting warmer. The point i want to make in this 3-way is that there is effectively no such thing as a personal right. When the fighting rests (it never stops) there are only political realities. If you want to maintain the ‘right’ to chose, you must rely on a GOTV precinct roll, not a philosophy.

And here is where we part company-GOTV is important, but if you haven’t convinced people of the justness of your cause, it won’t help.

47 klys  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 2:57:49pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

We’re getting warmer. The point i want to make in this 3-way is that there is effectively no such thing as a personal right. When the fighting rests (it never stops) there are only political realities. If you want to maintain the ‘right’ to chose, you must rely on a GOTV precinct roll, not a philosophy.

That is one part of it, and a very important part. But another part is winning new minds, which is the argument that I think calochortus and I are focusing on here.

Both are necessary in order to defend this.

48 b.d.  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:00:31pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

my favorite reply to GG so far:

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Aquaman rules, Namor drools.

49 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:01:55pm

re: #46 calochortus

And here is where we part company-GOTV is important, but if you haven’t convinced people of the justness of your cause, it won’t help.

i’m in a mood to argue basics tonight. Whence comes your ‘justness’? The Godly have seized most of the supply of virtues. Your best approach is to educate a working majority on the necessity, usefulness and shared benefit of your position. They can get their justice from the pulpit, and very many feel too comfortable with that.

50 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:02:13pm

Stuff it, GG. We know what you are. I still have no love for the rightwing; OTOH, I’m not a thief of state secrets or a traitor, either.

51 b.d.  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:02:28pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

My favorite:

52 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:05:05pm

re: #51 b.d.

My favorite:

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yeah, I liked that one, too!
Waiting for someone to suggest Iceland or Bolivia or Ecuador…

53 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:05:25pm

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeah, I liked that one, too!
Waiting for someone to suggest Iceland or Bolivia or Ecuador…

or…Antarctica!!!!!!!

54 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:10:04pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Seriously. This is one awesome looking faucet.

I’m thinking if you cannibalized the right parts from a few exercise machines you could make one of those yourself.

55 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:10:07pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

Greenwald is trying to keep his name in the press. That is all it is.

56 calochortus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:11:22pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

i’m in a mood to argue basics tonight. Whence comes your ‘justness’? The Godly have seized most of the supply of virtues. Your best approach is to educate a working majority on the necessity, usefulness and shared benefit of your position. They can get their justice from the pulpit, and very many feel too comfortable with that.

I’m not quite sure what you are asking for here?
I believe my position is just, and if we wish to pick nits here, justice is a social construct but fairness is almost certainly something we are all born with a feeling for.
While hearing from an authority that your position is the morally correct one is comfortable, people can obviously be convinced by evidence and argument to change their minds.
If one can show that it is unfair to do something (own slaves, beat your horse) then people can be persuaded that something is just and should be enshrined in law.

57 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:11:53pm

re: #55 PhillyPretzel

Greenwald is trying to keep his name in the press. That is all it is.

When was the last time he actually made anything approaching a valid claim about the NSA domestically spying? That the NSA is collecting data on foreign countries falls into the “Well, duh!” category.

58 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:11:54pm

re: #55 PhillyPretzel

Greenwald is trying to keep his name in the press. That is all it is.

Of course he is, but it really isn’t working anymore…

59 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:12:36pm

re: #57 Feline Fearless Leader

When was the last time he actually made anything approaching a valid claim about the NSA domestically spying? That the NSA is collecting data on foreign countries falls into the “Well, duh!” category.

ummm…I’m thinking NEVER.

60 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:13:05pm

You’d think if this was going to be a major revelation he’d save it for that new media enterprise he’s trying to start up.

61 Teukka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:13:05pm

re: #42 calochortus

Excuse me? Someone tells women to “go get raped”? He (I can only assume it’s a ‘he’) must not have much of a social life.

Either a sub-par troll trying to get attention, or someone with serious value issues [And I’ll leave it at that, before I write something I’ll regret].

62 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:18:49pm

THE NSA IS WATCHING YOU WHILE YOU’RE NAKED!!!11!!111!!!!!!

63 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:21:36pm

re: #56 calochortus

I’m not quite sure what you are asking for here?
I believe my position is just, and if we wish to pick nits here, justice is a social construct but fairness is almost certainly something we are all born with a feeling for.
While hearing from an authority that your position is the morally correct one is comfortable, people can obviously be convinced by evidence and argument to change their minds.
If one can show that it is unfair to do something (own slaves, beat your horse) then people can be persuaded that something is just and should be enshrined in law.

If you wish to approach someone who has reached voting age sitting at the feet of conservative parents and cosmically-anointed moral guardians you need something a lot stronger than schoolyard fairness. Self-interest and group interest might do it. Science might do it. in the end only the power of numbers will work, and that only as long as you hold them. it’s going to be a long slog just to defend what has been gained.

64 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:23:02pm

re: #62 Vicious Babushka

THE NSA IS WATCHING YOU WHILE YOU’RE NAKED!!!11!!111!!!!!!

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1) The potential for abuse does not mean the actual occurrence of abuse.
2) Greenwald is a fucking idiot.

65 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:23:06pm

re: #62 Vicious Babushka

I’m still waiting for the dudebros to explain to me how they would gather foreign intel if privacy rights trump everything else.

66 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:24:36pm

Prior to the foundation of the imperialist nation of the United States, no one in all of history ever said “I wonder what those guys are doing.”
/

67 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:27:47pm

re: #66 Kragar

Prior to the foundation of the imperialist nation of the United States, no one in all of history ever said “I wonder what those guys are doing.”
/

Those guys went to Rahab’s place in Jericho to buy a rug.

68 calochortus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:31:04pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

If you wish to approach someone who has reached voting age sitting at the feet of conservative parents and cosmically-anointed moral guardians you need something a lot stronger than schoolyard fairness. Self-interest and group interest might do it. Science might do it. in the end only the power of numbers will work, and that only as long as you hold them. it’s going to be a long slog just to defend what has been gained.

Actually, as I understand it “schoolyard fairness” (as you call it), played a large part in the British abolition movement. Adam Hochschild referred to it as the first time in history that people became outraged and stayed outraged over someone else’s rights. There were logical arguments, moral arguments, illustrations and stories of the horrors of slavery. All played a part in the abolition of the slave trade-but none of it as far as I know was based on individual self interest. It was, however, a very long slog.

I do not deny that motivating people who agree with one’s position to go vote is very important, but just as people’s opinions of slavery have changed world wide (it still exists, but no one wants to call it that, which is an indicator that it isn’t socially acceptable) people need to understand that bodily autonomy is not optional when it comes to reproduction as well. Logic, emotion, and yes our sense of fairness should all be part of the effort to change minds.

69 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:32:53pm

ooo… “Them” is on TCM. Welcome your new giant ant overlords!

70 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:34:37pm

re: #69 Feline Fearless Leader

ooo… “Them” is on TCM. Welcome your new giant ant overlords!

I’m watching. . . .

71 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:35:03pm
72 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:36:10pm

re: #68 calochortus

Actually, as I understand it “schoolyard fairness” (as you call it), played a large part in the British abolition movement. Adam Hochschild referred to it as the first time in history that people became outraged and stayed outraged over someone else’s rights. There were logical arguments, moral arguments, illustrations and stories of the horrors of slavery. All played a part in the abolition of the slave trade-but none of it as far as I know was based on individual self interest. It was, however, a very long slog.

I do not deny that motivating people who agree with one’s position to go vote is very important, but just as people’s opinions of slavery have changed world wide (it still exists, but no one wants to call it that, which is an indicator that it isn’t socially acceptable) people need to understand that bodily autonomy is not optional when it comes to reproduction as well. Logic, emotion, and yes our sense of fairness should all be part of the effort to change minds.

Don’t tell an Irishman about the British sense of fairness, he’ll start playing Black 47 videos.

Other than that, we talking tactics. Yours will work on educated, liberal middle-class youngsters. That’s not enough to protect your gains.

Off to walk the over-patient dog.

73 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:37:24pm

re: #69 Feline Fearless Leader

ooo… “Them” is on TCM. Welcome your new giant ant overlords!

Whimper. Don’t have cable. Only copy I can find on line is all screwed up.

Whimper.

74 sagehen  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:38:15pm

re: #71 Lidane

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Or Mick Jagger.

75 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:39:13pm

re: #74 sagehen

David Bowie will hit me harder than Jagger, and Springsteen more than both of them.

76 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:39:21pm

Black 47—Fanatic Heart

Youtube Video

77 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:39:53pm

re: #71 Lidane

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No, I think most of us are all grown up now. We appreciate him and his music, and we’ll be sad, but he’s human, just as we are. Death is inevitable for everyone, even if you think it isn’t for some.

78 sagehen  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:40:38pm

re: #77 Justanotherhuman

Death is inevitable for everyone, even if you think it isn’t for some.

Hush, you. This cannot be so.

79 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:41:45pm
80 AlexRogan  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:44:07pm

re: #74 sagehen

Or Mick Jagger.

Meanwhile, Keith Richards has been embalmed for years…

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81 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:45:19pm

re: #78 sagehen

Hush, you. This cannot be so.

Hey, I’m 3 mos older than Bob. I can say that. : ) He was a barely pre-war baby, too.

82 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:45:20pm

re: #75 Lidane

David Bowie will hit me harder than Jagger, and Springsteen more than both of them.

I’ll give you Bowie, but not Springsteen.

83 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:50:03pm

re: #82 b_sharp

I’ll give you Bowie, but not Springsteen.

Bowie is amazing and one of my all-time favorites. LOVE him. His tour with NIN is in my top 5 concerts ever. However, Springsteen easily put on the best show I’ve ever seen in my life and his music has been a big part of my life since I was a kid. It’s going to be a big deal for me.

84 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:50:41pm

Think of the shock when Kanye dies…

OK, never mind.

85 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:51:51pm

re: #84 Kragar

Think of the shock when Kanye dies…

OK, never mind.

Who?

86 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:53:31pm

re: #83 Lidane

Bowie is amazing and one of my all-time favorites. LOVE him. His tour with NIN is in my top 5 concerts ever. However, Springsteen easily put on the best show I’ve ever seen in my life and his music has been a big part of my life since I was a kid. It’s going to be a big deal for me.

I’ve already gone through the death of one of my main influences, SRV.

87 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 3:56:44pm

re: #86 b_sharp

I’ve already gone through the death of one of my main influences, SRV.

I was high school when SRV died. I still remember my mom coming to pick me up from school that day and telling me in the car.

88 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:01:19pm

re: #86 b_sharp

I’ve already gone through the death of one of my main influences, SRV.

I was on my way to work at the newspaper when I heard the news on the radio. The crash wasn’t all that far away. Fog was really bad that night.

89 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:02:52pm

Oh, shit.

90 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:04:14pm

re: #71 Lidane

It just hit me: we are all gonna really lose it when Dylan dies.

Dylan died when he went electric.

91 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:05:34pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Dylan died when he went electric.

That was a few years before my time. ;)

92 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:05:48pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Dylan died when he went electric.

I remember my parents first listening to him. I hated his voice.

Grew to appreciate the value, but still…..

93 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:10:53pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

I remember my parents first listening to him. I hated his voice.

Grew to appreciate the value, but still…..

My ex-stepsister is a big Dylan fan. I remember her listening to him a lot when I was a kid. I wasn’t big on his voice, but I liked the songs. When I was 13, my mom talked her into letting me go with her and her friends to go see Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers and Dylan when they toured together. There was an extra ticket and my mom offered the money for it if I could go.

Couldn’t tell you much about the gig itself, but I remember having fun that night.

94 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:11:13pm

re: #87 Lidane

I was high school when SRV died. I still remember my mom coming to pick me up from school that day and telling me in the car.

SRV died on my 35th birthday. At first the reports were that Clapton (another big influence) had died.

Sitting in a camper just outside Calgary when it was reported. I decided to get drunk.

95 b.d.  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:11:34pm

It appears to be Spain.

Hold all tickets until declared official

96 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:12:45pm

re: #95 b.d.

It appears to be Spain.

[Embedded content]

Hold all tickets until declared official

ratz…I was really hoping for Atlantis…

97 b.d.  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:12:46pm

re: #95 b.d.
My Spanish is rusty but it appears that we spied on 60 million llamas.

98 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:12:49pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

I remember my parents first listening to him. I hated his voice.

Grew to appreciate the value, but still…..

I was never a huge Dylan fan, but taste in music is subjective. For instance, I like this cover of Dylan:

Youtube Video

99 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:13:36pm

re: #95 b.d.

It appears to be Spain.

[Embedded content]

Hold all tickets until declared official

Crap, I picked the wrong one in the pool again.

100 b.d.  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:14:13pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

ratz…I was really hoping for Atlantis…

Of course you’re a big country Spain…pats them on the head.

101 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:15:56pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

ratz…I was really hoping for Atlantis…

I picked the Duchy of Grand Fenwick.

102 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:16:01pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

I remember my parents first listening to him. I hated his voice.

Grew to appreciate the value, but still…..

Around 1966, the students at Columbia or NYU got WBAI to play “The Times They Are a’Changin” timed for the middle of their graduation ceremony. Hundreds of them had transistors under their robes. When the music started, they walked out.

103 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:17:30pm

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

I was never a huge Dylan fan, but taste in music is subjective. For instance, I like this cover of Dylan:

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Love that one.

I also get a kick out of these two as well.

Youtube Video

Youtube Video

104 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:18:22pm

re: #93 Lidane

My ex-stepsister is a big Dylan fan. I remember her listening to him a lot when I was a kid. I wasn’t big on his voice, but I liked the songs. When I was 13, my mom talked her into letting me go with her and her friends to go see Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers and Dylan when they toured together. There was an extra ticket and my mom offered the money for it if I could go.

Couldn’t tell you much about the gig itself, but I remember having fun that night.

Now Tom Petty…Going to school at UF (he’s from Gainesville) you lived on Petty.

105 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:19:13pm

Giant ant infestation! The declaration of that will be the reason for declaring martial law and shipping people off to the FEMA camps!
///

106 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:19:14pm

Haha, Spain!

Funny, do we still spy on Russia and China (big countries), or did they already get those files from Snowden and suppress them?

What, no headlines in Pravda or Xinhua?

107 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:20:17pm

re: #103 William Barnett-Lewis

Love that one.

I also get a kick out of these two as well.

[Embedded content]

Is that the “Luftballoon” kid? Sucks.

108 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:21:20pm

re: #86 b_sharp

I’ve already gone through the death of one of my main influences, SRV.

Agh! SRV and Bob Marley were the two that hit me hardest.

109 b.d.  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:21:47pm

re: #106 Justanotherhuman

Haha, Spain!

Funny, do we still spy on Russia and China (big countries), or did they already get those files from Snowden and suppress them?

What, no headlines in Pravda or Xinhua?

The dog that didn’t bark, No reports from Snowden on spying on Russia or China.

110 Cheechako  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:23:01pm

Somewhere there must be a country that’s going to be very disappointed when they find out they’re not important enough for the United States to spy on them.

Any suggestions?

111 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:23:09pm

re: #97 b.d.

My Spanish is rusty but it appears that we spied on 60 million llamas.

60 million phone calls. In a country with 47 million people. During a time of upheaval with the ETA.

This is my shocked face.

112 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:24:32pm

re: #107 Decatur Deb

Is that the “Luftballoon” kid? Sucks.

Yeah, that’s her. Had a major crush when I was stationed in Germany. Was really funny to come back stateside just as the auf deutsch version was taking to the charts here :)

I still buy her records when I can.

113 dog philosopher  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:29:49pm

what have i been wasting time on this sunday afternoon?

vintage soprano saxophone porn

1927 Buescher Tru-Tone

meticulously refurbished - so nice!

my 1925 buescher - no so refurbished…

1925 Conn

“It appears to have been in storage most of its life” ooh! ooh!

114 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:30:10pm

THE ANTS GOT HIM

115 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:30:32pm
116 dog philosopher  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:30:51pm

re: #97 b.d.

My Spanish is rusty but it appears that we spied on 60 million llamas.

i thought that was 60 million people dancing the lambada!

117 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:32:06pm

re: #113 dog philosopher

what have i been wasting time on this sunday afternoon?

vintage soprano saxophone porn

1927 Buescher Tru-Tone

meticulously refurbished - so nice!

my 1925 buescher - no so refurbished…

1925 Conn

“It appears to have been in storage most of its life” ooh! ooh!

Guy’s gonna get a lot of hits now.

118 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:32:14pm

re: #114 Stanley Sea

THE ANTS GOT HIM

very dramatic death, too!

119 ausador  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:33:44pm

Dylan was an icon in the Traveling Wilburys, how else could have a song like this become part of posterity?

Youtube Video

120 b.d.  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:36:07pm

If they killed all the ants how come we still have ants?!

121 ausador  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:37:06pm

re: #120 b.d.

If they killed all the ants how come we still have ants?!

Pod people ants.

122 b.d.  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:38:36pm

Lara Logan doing a story on BENGHAZI!! tonight on 60 Minutes.

Possible outcomes:
1.) Renewed outcries about BENGHAZI! from baggers.

2.) Renewed criticism of CBS from baggers.

123 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:44:12pm
124 b_sharp  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:44:49pm

Just watched giant ants get hosed on ‘Them’.

Gotta love TCM.

125 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:48:01pm

One of my favorite Dylan tunes, but Joan does it best. He’s a great songwriter, for sure, but she’s a great singer.

Youtube Video

126 Targetpractice  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:51:32pm

re: #123 Lidane

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Rafael Cruz and Princess Dumbass of the North Woods. You could run Nancy Pelosi against them and be guaranteed at least 51% of the vote.

127 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:52:15pm

Black 47 with Mary Courtney—Livin’ in America

Youtube Video

128 ausador  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:53:13pm

Cats are just so demanding…
*small razor sharp claws go through your pants leg and into your calf*

Cat: “Meorrrow?”
Translation: “Hi there remember me? I just got up from my post-mid evening nap (not to be confused with the early evening nap, the mid evening nap, or the late evening nap) and I just happened to notice that there is no kibble in my food bowl. You are going to correct this oversight shortly…*claws dig in deeper*…right?

129 Gus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:54:11pm

The stupid coming out with Fukushima is something to behold.

130 fern01  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:54:40pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

GG in a real bother cause the US media can’t get past reporting on computer glitches and have little interest in his ranting.

131 blueraven  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:56:54pm

re: #129 Gus

The stupid coming out with Fukushima is something to behold.

such as?

132 b.d.  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:57:01pm

If Snowden would have stolen the name of the girl on the homepage of healthcare.gov, the media would be beating down Glenn’s door.

133 Gus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 4:58:04pm

re: #131 blueraven

such as?

Link here. If you want more on Zionist conspiracies check the pull down menu.

134 ausador  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:01:49pm

re: #130 fern01

GG in a real bother cause the US media can’t get past reporting on computer glitches and have little interest in his ranting.

It isn’t just the media, many of us realize that our own internet providers, search engines of choice, and frequently visited web sites have compiled and are selling far more comprehensive information on us than the NSA has.

We may not be all that interesting to the NSA (what with not being terrorists and all) but we certainly are interesting to advertisers. Where is the outrage about that?

135 jaunte  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:03:56pm

re: #134 ausador

we certainly are interesting to advertisers. Where is the outrage about that?

The National memo link in #123 thinks I want a carbon fiber faucet now.

136 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:04:52pm

re: #135 jaunte

The National memo link in #123 thinks I want a carbon fiber faucet now.

Let’s hope the NSA is better at what it does.

137 Gus  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:04:54pm

What the heck is happening with J Street? Ever since they had that large gathering they’ve been getting really weird.

138 freetoken  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:05:11pm

re: #134 ausador

I get a continual stream of emails from Facebook - which I don’t use but several of my relatives do, and I’ve looked at their Facebook pages. Facebook has figured out who my relatives are, what some of my interests are, etc.

Just think about what the supermarket companies know about me, when I key in my # to get the “club” discount prices on the “sales”.

139 Political Atheist  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:05:56pm

re: #134 ausador

It isn’t just the media, many of us realize that our own internet providers, search engines of choice, and frequently visited web sites have compiled and are selling far more comprehensive information on us than the NSA has.

We may not be all that interesting to the NSA (what with not being terrorists and all) but we certainly are interesting to advertisers. Where is the outrage about that?

Sadly I think outrage has the selfish filter. Look at smartphones and labor as in Foxconn vs clothing. The NSA is the big bad gov. Google is our friend.

140 urbanmeemaw  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:08:57pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Glenn Greenwald ✔ @ggreenwald
A new large country tomorrow morning will learn how many millions of its citizens have their communications data intercepted by the NSA

Snowbronia, Glenn?

I can’t wait for the day that spying will be OK again. Oh, wait. That would require that a white Republican male would be elected President. Never mind.

141 freetoken  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:09:26pm

The Salon article from Friday:

Darwin inspired Hitler: Lies they teach in Texas

is finally getting some attention around the blogosphere, e.g.:

Public-funded Texas school teaches Holocaust rooted in evolution

This is one of the real problems with publicly funding private charter schools - every wacky idea will be sold by someone as the truth and all the people in that cult will accept it.

Education of young people is indoctrination, by the denotation of those words. In our modern ideal we like to think that “education” is some path to enlightenment (whatever that is), but in practice so much of education is trying to mold young people into our images. I think we have to be really careful of remembering that, especially when it comes to these charter school movements.

142 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:09:49pm

re: #138 freetoken

I get a continual stream of emails from Facebook - which I don’t use but several of my relatives do, and I’ve looked at their Facebook pages. Facebook has figured out who my relatives are, what some of my interests are, etc.

Just think about what the supermarket companies know about me, when I key in my # to get the “club” discount prices on the “sales”.

Well, that I don’t mind, when the kiosk in the supermarket prints out 25, 50, 75 cent coupons for stuff I actually use. : )

143 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:09:58pm

re: #108 Romantic Heretic

Agh! SRV and Bob Marley were the two that hit me hardest.

The death of Jimi Hendrix really saddened me. I was just learning to play guitar, and he was my dude. I spent hours with my guitar and record player, learning Hendrix songs.

144 Political Atheist  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:11:23pm

The first big loss of a musician I remember is John Lennon. I was young enough to be unaccustomed to death like that.

145 ausador  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:12:56pm

re: #132 b.d.

If Snowden would have stolen the name of the girl on the homepage of healthcare.gov, the media would be beating down Glenn’s door.

The only reason half these people want to know her name is to hopefully dig up some dirt attached to her and then use it to further besmirch the site. The entire thing is ridiculous, it is just a stock photo used on a portal for goodness sake, the person has no involvement or influence with the actual site.

Leave the poor woman alone for craps sake, this witch-hunt was never part of the bargain when she signed some stock photo contract to use her pictures with some photographer somewhere (probably for no pay either, just getting her own portfolio photos updated for free). :(

146 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:14:23pm

Starting to really get into using parchment paper for cooking/baking.

147 fern01  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:14:32pm

re: #135 jaunte

The National memo link in #123 thinks I want a carbon fiber faucet now.

It wants to link me up with a tradesman to install it - obviously knows I am of the feminine gender

148 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:14:42pm

re: #138 freetoken

I get a continual stream of emails from Facebook - which I don’t use but several of my relatives do, and I’ve looked at their Facebook pages. Facebook has figured out who my relatives are, what some of my interests are, etc.

Just think about what the supermarket companies know about me, when I key in my # to get the “club” discount prices on the “sales”.

We worked a live ACA navigator session on healthcare.gov yesterday. I set up my own ‘practice’ account. When I went back in to test it, the ‘hub’ queried me for several screens to validate my ID. It asked me to pick the car I bought last from a list. My car was on it, and I never told it about cars.

(The site worked very well for 4 of us over 2 hours. The trick seems to be to log on during SEC games. We registered our group’s first real client.)

149 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:14:47pm

re: #144 Political Atheist

The first big loss of a musician I remember is John Lennon. I was young enough to be unaccustomed to death like that.

The first musicians I remember dying were the Big Bopper, Richie Valens and Buddy Holly. It was 17 days before my 18th birthday.

Yeah, I’m old. : )

150 freetoken  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:14:49pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

Ye olde skool cookery.

151 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:15:12pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

Starting to really get into using parchment paper for cooking/baking.

Sucks for rolling.

152 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:15:15pm


Quick, somebody tell this “conservative group” about Amash’s anti-abortion creds.

153 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:16:21pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

Starting to really get into using parchment paper for cooking/baking.

It’s great for sliding artisan breads from the peel to the baking stone!

154 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:17:42pm

Today’s bread loaves.

The outside crust was a little bit too crispy, but perfect inside.

155 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:18:41pm

re: #152 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]


Quick, somebody tell this “conservative group” about Amash’s anti-abortion creds.

Meanwhile…

Conservative group smears Rep. Justin Amash as Marxist ‘fellow traveler’ for opposing NSA spying

A small conservative group has labelled a libertarian-leaning congressman a Marxist “fellow traveler” for speaking out against the U.S. National Security Agency.

USA Survival on Sunday uploaded video of Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) speaking at a “Stop Watching Us” rally in Washington, D.C.

The group’s video begins by asking, “Dupe or dope?” It says Amash joined “leftists, Marxists and the loony left at anti-NSA Rally.” The video also notes that Amash teamed up with Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) to introduce a measure to defund some NSA surveillance operations.

156 thedopefishlives  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:18:41pm

Evening Lizardim.

157 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:18:54pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

Starting to really get into using parchment paper for cooking/baking.

My favorite way to bake salmon.

158 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:19:37pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

My favorite way to bake salmon.

That’s exactly what I tried a couple of days ago. Really makes it moist and delicious.

159 sagehen  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:20:59pm

re: #149 Justanotherhuman

The first musicians I remember dying were the Big Bopper, Richie Valens and Buddy Holly. It was 17 days before my 18th birthday.

Yeah, I’m old. : )

oooh!! [waves hands] I know this one!!

Youtube Video

160 thedopefishlives  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:21:30pm

re: #158 Charles Johnson

That’s exactly what I tried a couple of days ago. Really makes it moist and delicious.

I’m more of a grilled-cedar-plank kind of guy, myself. But I always have trouble with it because my wife can never let me know far enough in advance, so I can’t get the planks soaked thoroughly enough. Last time out, they definitely caught fire. Managed to save the salmon, though.

161 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:28:06pm

OT - Farmer’s market tomatoes - October 27 - to die for.

Lucky me.

162 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:28:52pm

Some scary shit right here: I Challenged Hackers to Investigate Me and What They Found Out Is Chilling.

163 jaunte  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:29:41pm

re: #145 ausador

>The only reason half these people want to know her name is to hopefully dig up some dirt attached to her and then use it to further besmirch the site. The entire thing is ridiculous, it is just a stock photo used on a portal for goodness sake, the person has no involvement or influence with the actual site.

Leave the poor woman alone for craps sake, this witch-hunt was never part of the bargain when she signed some stock photo contract to use her pictures with some photographer somewhere (probably for no pay either, just getting her own portfolio photos updated for free). :(

I like the thought that there are a probably a good number of people who know the girl and the photographer, and they’re all keeping mum while people go nuts about it.

164 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:33:54pm

re: #149 Justanotherhuman

The first musicians I remember dying were the Big Bopper, Richie Valens and Buddy Holly. It was 17 days before my 18th birthday.

Yeah, I’m old. : )

Janis Joplin. :(
Jimi Hendrix. :(
Mama Cass. :(

165 Political Atheist  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:36:02pm

re: #164 Vicious Babushka

Janis Joplin. :(
Jimi Hendrix. :(
Mama Cass. :(

Jim Morrison. :(

166 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:38:58pm

re: #140 urbanmeemaw

Glenn Greenwald ✔ @ggreenwald
A new large country tomorrow morning will learn how many millions of its citizens have their communications data intercepted by the NSA

Snowbronia, Glenn?

I can’t wait for the day that spying will be OK again. Oh, wait. That would require that a white Republican male would be elected President. Never mind.

I don’t think Glenn Greenwald is a racist. He hates Barack Obama because Obama has maintained most of the Bush 43 intelligence apparatus, not because Obama is black. So he’s still wrong on the facts and still an ass, but I’ve seen nothing to indicate Greenwald is a bigot.

167 gwangung  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:42:28pm

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

I don’t think Glenn Greenwald is a racist. He hates Barack Obama because Obama has maintained most of the Bush 43 intelligence apparatus, not because Obama is black. So he’s still wrong on the facts and still an ass, but I’ve seen nothing to indicate Greenwald is a bigot.

At least not in the classic sense.

Though I know a few folks who’ve harbored a mindset that consistently downgraded anything that wasn’t a priority for the mainstream (i.e., anything that was a concern for the black community and wasn’t a concern for them was unimportant or trivial).

168 freetoken  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:42:34pm

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

Glenn Greenwald is in love with Glenn Greenwald.

Glenn Greenwald hates anyone who isn’t in love with Glenn Greenwald.

169 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:43:47pm

re: #155 Kragar

Meanwhile…

Conservative group smears Rep. Justin Amash as Marxist ‘fellow traveler’ for opposing NSA spying

That group is nuts: This is the “about” section of their YouTube page:

USA Survival

Leading the fight against international Marxism, global Jihad, and the United Nations

714 subscribers
262,954 views
Joined Jun 4, 2008

America’s Survival, Inc.
The Soros Files
Exposing Marxism in the Church
The Muslim-Communist Alliance

170 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:43:54pm

re: #164 Vicious Babushka

Janis Joplin. :(
Jimi Hendrix. :(
Mama Cass. :(

Bon Scott.

171 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:44:12pm

re: #165 Political Atheist

Jim Morrison. :(

Joe Strummer
Keith Moon
Bob Stinson
Alex Chilton

172 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:45:47pm

re: #171 William Barnett-Lewis

Joe Strummer
Keith Moon
Bob Stinson
Alex Chilton

Leonard Bernstein.

173 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:46:11pm
174 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:46:42pm

Isaac Stern.

175 freetoken  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:47:06pm

re: #174 Vicious Babushka

Elvis.

176 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:47:08pm

Luciano Pavarotti.

177 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:49:55pm

Pat Boone.

Oh wait…

178 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:50:30pm
179 ausador  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:51:29pm

re: #159 sagehen

oooh!! [waves hands] I know this one!!

[Embedded content]

One of my favorite songs, even before you start to unravel the slightly disguised references to its meaning. The fact that it is so deeply meaningful and clever about too meant that I simply had to learn it word for word. I have sung it both at campfires and karaoke bars over the last 35 or so odd years. ;)

180 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:52:48pm

New York Times article from 2005 on Greenwald’s defense of white supremacist Matt Hale, convicted of plotting to kill a federal judge.

The New York Times - National - Supremacist Sent Code From Jail, Lawyer Says

181 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:53:44pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Here’s a song for the dudebros:

Youtube Video

182 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:53:44pm

The three morons who thought it would be cool to dress up for Halloween as Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman and Girl Robin Hood have been totally outed and doxxed on Teh Internets.

Isn’t social media great?//

183 dog philosopher  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:53:58pm

re: #177 Kragar

Pat Boone.

Oh wait…

some people can pat boone

184 ausador  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:54:12pm

re: #161 Stanley Sea

OT - Farmer’s market tomatoes - October 27 - to die for.

Lucky me.

Yep, all the tomatoes grown in Florida are practically tasteless. :(

185 freetoken  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:54:28pm

re: #182 Vicious Babushka

The NSA knew it first.

186 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:55:54pm

re: #182 Vicious Babushka

The three morons who thought it would be cool to dress up for Halloween as Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman and Girl Robin Hood have been totally outed and doxxed on Teh Internets.

Isn’t social media great?

Not really. A notable number of the comments I saw directed then were death threats and I even saw a couple that were open racists supporting them.

187 jaunte  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:59:41pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

Supremacist Guilty in Plot to Kill Judge

“Are we gonna exterminate the rat?” Evola asked, referring to Lefkow.

“Well, whatever you want to do, basically,” Hale answered.

A few minutes later, Hale added: “My position has always been that, you know, I’m going to fight within the law and, but, ah [her home address has] been provided if you wish to, ah, do anything yourself, you can…. So that makes it clear.”

Evola responded: “Consider it done.”

“Good,” Hale said.
articles.latimes.com

188 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:00:37pm

re: #186 Dark_Falcon

Not really. A notable number of the comments I saw directed then were death threats and I even saw a couple that were open racists supporting them.

Comment edited to include //

189 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:01:05pm

That 2005 article shows that Greenwald was quite a bit more involved with Matt Hale and his white supremacist group than people realize. He defended Hale and his group in more than one case, and Hale tried to pass him a coded message, shortly before the federal judge’s husband and mother were murdered.

That’s kinda deep.

190 ausador  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:01:15pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

Some scary shit right here: I Challenged Hackers to Investigate Me and What They Found Out Is Chilling.

Asking professional (for money) hackers to investigate yourself is kinda like dousing yourself with tuna blood and then jumping into a shark tank.

“Where is you God antivirus now?”

191 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:12:38pm

Was Glenn Greenwald Matt Hale’s Saul Goodman?

192 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:23:23pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Grohe is better than Kohler, by miles!

193 Political Atheist  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:24:29pm

re: #192 Dancing along the light of day

Good Evening!

194 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:26:11pm

re: #191 Charles Johnson

Was Glenn Greenwald Matt Hale’s Saul Goodman?

Better call Saul.

Youtube Video

195 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:27:04pm

Heritage derp making its way around FB:

facebook.com

196 sagehen  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:32:56pm

Anytime the House wants to stop running up debt, all they have to do is pass tax rates and spending levels that don’t run up more debt.

Yet somehow, not a single one of them has even proposed such rates or levels.

They’re worried about how much some people would squeal at any proposed tax hike, they’re worried about how much some people will squeal at any proposed spending cut. So they just scream STOP RUNNING UP DEBT!! and propose not raising the ceiling, demanding that the president chose what to not pay so they can blame him for not paying whatever it is.

197 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:34:30pm

re: #195 Lidane

Heritage derp making its way around FB:

facebook.com

They don’t understand that raising the Debt Limit MEANS pumping out the water.

Gah.

198 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:34:57pm

re: #194 Kragar

Better call Saul.

[Embedded content]

Amish Elders, check.

199 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:35:56pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

Some scary shit right here: I Challenged Hackers to Investigate Me and What They Found Out Is Chilling.

Interesting note: The guy who wrote this article is the same guy who brought down Stephen Glass at the New Republic about 15 years ago.

200 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:38:47pm

The first musician death I remember vividly was Roy Orbison. I was only 7 at the time but my dad was a huge Orbison fan and took his sudden death hard. I remember asking my dad about it when it happened.

The first musician death that really hit me personally was Kurt Cobain.

201 gwangung  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:43:15pm

re: #190 ausador

Asking professional (for money) hackers to investigate yourself is kinda like dousing yourself with tuna blood and then jumping into a shark tank.

“Where is you God antivirus now?”

You don’t need hackers to find out an incredible amount on people…you just need a little knowledge and a credit card….

202 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:43:22pm

On the humourous side, I saw this while Halloween shopping with my wife today.

203 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:43:53pm

re: #201 gwangung

You don’t need hackers to find out an incredible amount on people…you just need a little knowledge and a credit card….

Heck you can find out plenty WITHOUT a credit card these days.

204 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:45:11pm

re: #200 Eclectic Cyborg

The first musician death I remember vividly was Roy Orbison. I was only 7 at the time but my dad was a huge Orbison fan and took his sudden death hard. I remember asking my dad about it when it happened.

The first musician death that really hit me personally was Kurt Cobain.

Diamond Darrell’s death really hit me hard.

205 AlexRogan  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:46:49pm

re: #204 Kragar

Diamond Darrell’s death really hit me hard.

Dimebag Darrell from Pantera?

206 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:47:06pm

For fun, and he was a LOVELY man!
Youtube Video
And it’s a who can you recognise!

207 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:47:09pm

re: #205 AlexRogan

Dimebag Darrell?

I believe that’s who he meant.

208 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:47:29pm

I believe Greenwald moved to Brazil right around the time of the Matt Hale “secret message” stories. In this article he’s quoted saying he’s lived in Brazil for “eight years,” which puts the move right at the time of this story in 2005.

slate.com

209 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:47:52pm

re: #205 AlexRogan

Dimebag Darrell from Pantera?

Yeah. I was big into Pantera back in High School.

210 AlexRogan  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:47:59pm

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

I believe that’s who he meant.

Well, he was known as Diamond Darrell too (per Wiki; I’d not heard him referred by that).

211 AlexRogan  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:50:57pm

re: #209 Kragar

Yeah. I was big into Pantera back in High School.

I’m a very casual Pantera fan, simply because I was around a bunch of headbangers and metalheads for the better part of the 90s.

How Dimebag Darrell got killed was completely fucked up.

212 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:54:06pm

re: #210 AlexRogan

Well, he was known as Diamond Darrell too (per Wiki; I’d not heard him referred by that).

The “Diamond Darrell” thing came during Pantera’s glam hair metal band days. When they switched to the harder sound they got famous for, he became Dimebag.

213 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:54:37pm

Just some Pantera instrumentals, so Darrell can really stand out.

Youtube Video

Youtube Video

214 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:54:48pm

re: #211 AlexRogan

I’m a very casual Pantera fan, simply because I was around a bunch of headbangers and metalheads for the better part of the 90s.

How Dimebag Darrell got killed was completely fucked up.

Whoa just looked that up.

215 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:55:40pm

re: #211 AlexRogan

I’m a very casual Pantera fan, simply because I was around a bunch of headbangers and metalheads for the better part of the 90s.

How Dimebag Darrell got killed was completely fucked up.

How in the hell did I miss that.

216 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:56:59pm

WTFITS

217 AlexRogan  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 6:57:58pm

re: #216 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

Let’s install defibrillators in all Gitmo detainees! NYT: Can defibrillators be wirelessly reprogrammed to kill? t.co

— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) October 28, 2013

HURR HURR DERP

Seriously, Ann, fuck you.

218 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:00:07pm
219 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:01:06pm

re: #216 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

[Embedded content]

Cheney - what an egotistical monster.

Coulter - keeps making money off her hate. Shame.

220 GeneJockey  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:01:22pm

re: #218 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I thought it was just one book, republished over and over with increasingly nasty one-word titles.

221 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:01:24pm

re: #211 AlexRogan

I’m a very casual Pantera fan, simply because I was around a bunch of headbangers and metalheads for the better part of the 90s.

How Dimebag Darrell got killed was completely fucked up.

re: #211 AlexRogan

I’m a very casual Pantera fan, simply because I was around a bunch of headbangers and metalheads for the better part of the 90s.

How Dimebag Darrell got killed was completely fucked up.

Gunned down on stage by a nutcase, who killed three other people before being killed himself by a shotgun blast to the head from a responding police officer.

Yeah, that’s fucked up.

222 jaunte  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:01:55pm

12 Million Americans Believe Lizard People Run Our Country

I think we can do better.

223 AlexRogan  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:02:43pm

re: #214 Stanley Sea

Whoa just looked that up.

re: #215 Stanley Sea

How in the hell did I miss that.

I remember when it happened; it was in the news for a day or two, but you know how the 24-hour news cycle is.

224 GeneJockey  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:03:05pm

re: #222 jaunte

12 Million Americans Believe Lizard People Run Our Country

I think we can do better.

I thought we were an autonomous collective.

225 piratedan  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:03:36pm

re: #222 jaunte

12 Million Americans Believe Lizard People Run Our Country

I think we can do better.

shit! EVERYONE knows it’s really the chameleons that are the power behind the throne! ///

226 AlexRogan  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:04:24pm

re: #224 GeneJockey

I thought we were an autonomous collective.

Nope, we’re an anarcho-syndicalist commune.

227 jaunte  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:04:39pm
Obama is the Antichrist 13 percent 40,808,825

Well, that’s unfortunate.

228 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:04:58pm

re: #220 GeneJockey

I thought it was just one book, republished over and over with increasingly nasty one-word titles.

Sadly, no. She’s actually gotten worse over the years. A decade ago she sometimes actually wrote things worth reading, even though she was vicious and snarky. Now all she is vicious and snarky, and the things worth reading are long gone.

229 jaunte  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:06:14pm

re: #218 Kragar

She stole that idea from Cloud Atlas.

230 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:07:52pm

re: #228 Dark_Falcon

Ann Coulter was never worth reading. She’s been a bitter, shrill harpy since some Democrat in Kansas dropped a house on her sister.

231 AlexRogan  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:08:23pm

re: #228 Dark_Falcon

Sadly, no. She’s actually gotten worse over the years. A decade ago she sometimes actually wrote things worth reading, even though she was vicious and snarky. Now all she is vicious and snarky, and the things worth reading are long gone.

That’s also why “conservative humor” is so fucking awful…because the only “humor” that’s in it is mean, cold-hearted, and vicious.

232 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:08:26pm

re: #219 Stanley Sea

Cheney - what an egotistical monster.

Coulter - keeps making money off her hate. Shame.

Cheney’s got a big ego, but he did nothing wrong in having a concern over his defibrillator. Ann Coulter thinks putting something with which to kill a person remotely is a joke. That’s not callous, that’s just plain evil.

233 GeneJockey  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:09:03pm

re: #228 Dark_Falcon

Sadly, no. She’s actually gotten worse over the years. A decade ago she sometimes actually wrote things worth reading, even though she was vicious and snarky. Now all she is vicious and snarky, and the things worth reading are long gone.

Guess what, Dark? It was always like that. You just got smarter.

234 AlexRogan  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:09:03pm

re: #230 Lidane

Ann Coulter was never worth reading. She’s been a bitter, shill harpy since some Democrat in Kansas dropped a house on her sister.

*chortle*

/”I’ll get you and your little dog, too!”

235 GeneJockey  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:11:26pm

re: #230 Lidane

Ann Coulter was never worth reading. She’s been a bitter, shill harpy since some Democrat in Kansas dropped a house on her sister.

I saw that as ‘horse’ and wonder what the fuck you were talking about! Then the coin dropped. “Oh, yeah. heheheh.”

236 Lidane  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:12:58pm

re: #234 AlexRogan

*chortle*

Yeah, I know. Democrats in Kansas are imaginary. I’m still convinced the house thing happened, though. It would explain a lot. Heh.

237 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:13:19pm

re: #233 GeneJockey

Guess what, Dark? It was always like that. You just got smarter.

I actually see it differently, but I’ve felt for a long time that she had things a thought were problems but that she gloried in. I actually put up a Page about it a while back.

238 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:15:27pm
239 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:17:57pm

BUT WHY NOT IF BLACK PEOPLE CAN GO IN WHITEFACE!!!11!!!!1!!!!

240 Political Atheist  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:22:42pm

A couple months ago I went to the Tall Ship viewing at Dana Point. I decided to take a close up view with the camera and try to capture the same emotion and flavor one gets from the bigger view of the whole ship. Tonight’s Sunday Night Macro.

241 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:26:28pm

i just ran across this Tumblr post and it needs to be seen.

Image: tumblr_mvcwxrTYGl1r9khx4o1_500.jpg

War is Hell

A portrait of an Italian Special Forces soldier after a 72 hour battle in Afghanistan. Some would call this “The Thousand Yard Stare”.

242 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:27:07pm

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

i just ran across this Tumblr post and it needs to be seen.

Image: tumblr_mvcwxrTYGl1r9khx4o1_500.jpg

He kinda looks like Greg Laurie.

243 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:31:12pm

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

i just ran across this Tumblr post and it needs to be seen.

Image: tumblr_mvcwxrTYGl1r9khx4o1_500.jpg

David Douglas Duncan—Different war, same eyes:

Image: 2268688999482936266qxN7skZc.jpg

fixed

244 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:33:22pm

re: #243 Decatur Deb

David Douglas Duncan—Different war, same eyes:

Image: Life-Magazine-October-27-1967-002.jpg

Link not taking me to photo.

245 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:35:10pm

re: #244 Stanley Sea

Link not taking me to photo.

Uploaded different version.

246 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:37:04pm

re: #243 Decatur Deb

David Douglas Duncan—Different war, same eyes:

Image: 2268688999482936266qxN7skZc.jpg

fixed

Oh yeah.

247 klys  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:37:38pm

re: #240 Political Atheist

A couple months ago I went to the Tall Ship viewing at Dana Point. I decided to take a close up view with the camera and try to capture the same emotion and flavor one gets from the bigger view of the whole ship. Tonight’s Sunday Night Macro.

I respond with (from my sister):

Ahoy, matey!

Dawn while sailing.

The AJ Meerwald.

248 jaunte  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:43:42pm

re: #243 Decatur Deb

And this one
Image: 01_ikefenton.jpg

249 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:44:04pm

Nebraska conservatives demand flawed climate study; scientists refuse

First, Virginia’s legislature calls for a $50,000 climate change study that omits the words “climate change” and “sea level rise” from the study’s description. Then, North Carolina decides to ignore a study predicting the sea will rise on its coast.

Now, Nebraska’s legislature has asked its state climate scientists to look at climate change … but apparently without accounting for human activity on the climate.

250 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:44:08pm

That was the the war before the kid’s.

251 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:48:23pm

re: #249 Varek Raith

Nebraska conservatives demand flawed climate study; scientists refuse

“We need you to build a case where you ignore all the evidence that proves we are wrong.”

252 jamesfirecat  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:50:24pm

re: #249 Varek Raith

Nebraska conservatives demand flawed climate study; scientists refuse

How about instead of saying the see level is rising we just argue that the ground is lowering would that make you happier?

253 klys  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:50:54pm

Ok, Lizards, I am issuing a food challenge.

On Thursday we leave for our anniversary trip. We have access to a full kitchen with most all the tools we could want, but no microwave or grill.

I want to do one meal with fancy cooking (as opposed to the grazing method we employ for the rest of them - cheese, cured meats, crackers, dip prepared at home, chili prepared at home and reheated, and fruits and veggies). Pasta of some sort is probably preferable, but not necessarily required if you can convince me it will be tasty enough. Fish is probably less fantastic because it will be cooked on Friday at the earliest.

(Hint: olives and/or mushrooms and/or capers are a favorite. To the extent that they might get added if missing, because fuck it, I’m the cook.)

Go.

254 sagehen  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:51:20pm

re: #251 Kragar

“We need you to build a case where you ignore all the evidence that proves we are wrong.”

Because it’s best if droughts are a total surprise.

255 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:52:55pm

re: #250 Decatur Deb

That was the the war before the kid’s.

Wars always have this effect. There’s nothing for it, though: Just like the Germans and Japanese so many years ago, the Taliban whom the Italian soldier pictured was fighting had to be opposed. They are the enemies of the freedom of any people anywhere and cannot be allowed to prevail.

“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” - Edmund Burke Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents (1770)

256 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:53:02pm

Now I’ve got the Kohler Karbon articulating faucet showing up.

Damn you Charles!

257 jaunte  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:54:57pm

re: #249 Varek Raith

First, Virginia’s legislature calls for a $50,000 climate change study that omits the words “climate change” and “sea level rise” from the study’s description.

How about “climatic alteration” and “oceanic area increase”?

258 jaunte  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:59:03pm
259 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:59:49pm

re: #253 klys

One of my favorites, easy, and actually called “love food” by a former:

Shrimp, mushrooms, grape tomatoes, scallions & garlic sauteed in white wine, lemon & butter. Pour over yellow rice. Vigo brand preferred.

Good luck and have fun.

260 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 7:59:53pm

re: #249 Varek Raith

Nebraska conservatives demand flawed climate study; scientists refuse

Funny how today’s conservatives do the same things they accused the Commies in the USSR and China of doing in the 1950s. Ignore the facts, ignore the experts, and stick with the Party’s version of reality.

Soviet science was held back decades because the Party favored Lamarck’s theoiry of acquired characteristics over Darwin’s theory of evolution. Mao’s agricultural policies led to widespread famine.

Reality has a way of smacking people in the face, usually in a bad way.

261 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:01:30pm

re: #253 klys

Putanesca

It’s a great dish from pantry ingredients. 1 tin anchovy, 1 can tomatoes, 1 can olives, capers, garlic, red pepper. browning the anchovies and garlic makes a heavenly smell. Easy to do.

262 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:07:16pm
263 CuriousLurker  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:07:24pm

re: #253 klys

Ok, Lizards, I am issuing a food challenge.

On Thursday we leave for our anniversary trip. We have access to a full kitchen with most all the tools we could want, but no microwave or grill.

I want to do one meal with fancy cooking (as opposed to the grazing method we employ for the rest of them - cheese, cured meats, crackers, dip prepared at home, chili prepared at home and reheated, and fruits and veggies). Pasta of some sort is probably preferable, but not necessarily required if you can convince me it will be tasty enough. Fish is probably less fantastic because it will be cooked on Friday at the earliest.

(Hint: olives and/or mushrooms and/or capers are a favorite. To the extent that they might get added if missing, because fuck it, I’m the cook.)

Go.

How about something simple like pasta with pesto, olives, thinly sliced slivers of salami, maybe some pan sauteed veggies, etc.? If you make it nice & colorful and serve it on pretty plates accompanied by some nice crystal, silverware & candlelight it could count as “fancy”.

264 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:20:29pm

re: #253 klys

Ok, Lizards, I am issuing a food challenge.

On Thursday we leave for our anniversary trip. We have access to a full kitchen with most all the tools we could want, but no microwave or grill.

I want to do one meal with fancy cooking (as opposed to the grazing method we employ for the rest of them - cheese, cured meats, crackers, dip prepared at home, chili prepared at home and reheated, and fruits and veggies). Pasta of some sort is probably preferable, but not necessarily required if you can convince me it will be tasty enough. Fish is probably less fantastic because it will be cooked on Friday at the earliest.

(Hint: olives and/or mushrooms and/or capers are a favorite. To the extent that they might get added if missing, because fuck it, I’m the cook.)

Go.

Pasta with puttanesca sauce.

265 Political Atheist  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:26:44pm

re: #247 klys

I respond with (from my sister):

Ahoy, matey!

Dawn while sailing.

The AJ Meerwald.

Love that Dawn While Sailing. Those ships are so majestic.

266 Political Atheist  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:28:12pm

re: #253 klys

Ok, Lizards, I am issuing a food challenge.

On Thursday we leave for our anniversary trip. We have access to a full kitchen with most all the tools we could want, but no microwave or grill.

I want to do one meal with fancy cooking (as opposed to the grazing method we employ for the rest of them - cheese, cured meats, crackers, dip prepared at home, chili prepared at home and reheated, and fruits and veggies). Pasta of some sort is probably preferable, but not necessarily required if you can convince me it will be tasty enough. Fish is probably less fantastic because it will be cooked on Friday at the earliest.

(Hint: olives and/or mushrooms and/or capers are a favorite. To the extent that they might get added if missing, because fuck it, I’m the cook.)

Go.

I have this Champagne Shrimp recipe. You don’t have the LGF Cookbooks do ya?

267 klys  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:30:26pm

re: #253 klys

I am saving all responses. :)

We are spending the weekend here, which is a particular favorite (this will be our 4th or 5th trip together, and heaven knows how many times he went before I was in the picture) and so after Tuesday’s exam I kick into high gear on the food prep.

And also the homework that’s due Monday after we get back. Oh well.

(Our anniversary #3 is a week from Wednesday.)

268 klys  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:30:52pm

re: #266 Political Atheist

I have this Champagne Shrimp recipe. You don’t have the LGF Cookbooks do ya?

No, I joined well after those happened.

But I am hoping to spearhead a new one after this stupid math proofs class finishes.

269 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:32:12pm

re: #268 klys

No, I joined well after those happened.

But I am hoping to spearhead a new one after this stupid math proofs class finishes.

Youtube Video

270 klys  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:32:36pm

re: #265 Political Atheist

Love that Dawn While Sailing. Those ships are so majestic.

She is just finishing (they are downrigging starting tomorrow for the winter) five months on the Meerwald.

Of course, now she is maybe applying to a tall ship based in the Catalinas (to which I am like YES YES YES for lots of reasons) even though she is not necessarily the most keen on another sailing post.

She didn’t bring her good camera for these (like me, she has a Pentax K-5) because out on the boat is not necessarily the best place for it.

271 klys  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:33:02pm

re: #269 Varek Raith

[Embedded content]

I HAVE SPARED YOU. Be glad.

272 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:34:16pm

re: #271 klys

I HAVE SPARED YOU. Be glad.

I do appreciate that.
Twas a dark time in my life.
/

273 klys  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:35:15pm

re: #272 Varek Raith

I do appreciate that.
Twas a dark time in my life.
/

I already have a group to go hit the bar with after the final ends at 3:15pm on December 9th.

274 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:40:23pm

Pretty impressive.

275 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:49:02pm

re: #273 klys

I already have a group to go hit the bar with after the final ends at 3:15pm on December 9th.

That’ll learn them braincells!

276 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:51:13pm

RWC:

277 Political Atheist  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:53:13pm

re: #276 Stanley Sea

Good heads up. Thanks!

278 klys  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:53:26pm

re: #275 Varek Raith

That’ll learn them braincells!

Funny thing: they all work for Google.

279 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:54:08pm

re: #278 klys

Funny thing: they all work for Google.

Well…
At least it ain’t EA.

280 ausador  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 8:56:50pm

BTW since we are on a recipe tips bent currently. Next time your making tuna or chicken salad consider putting sauerkraut in it instead of pickles or relish.

Most Imported German sauerkraut in jars have a light taste, not like the extremely sour tinny tasting examples that some of us grew up with from cans.

It not only adds moisture (needed for chicken salad especially when using left over refrigerated chicken) and texture to your mix along with a small bit of “sour” it also adds a fair amount of volume spreading one can of tuna much farther.

I use sauerkraut on hot dogs, on Reuben sandwiches, on pork chops with baked apples, etc. so I usually have some around anyway.

I realize that to many people this sounds like one of those things that common sense says just would not taste right strictly on the face of it.

Try it once, you might be pleasantly surprised.

281 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 9:07:48pm

Good night now!

282 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 9:14:24pm

FFS Square, stop locking my account because your stupid security system assumes we all have static IPs.
Bloody annoying resetting my passwords all the freaking time.
/rant

283 ausador  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 9:31:39pm

re: #282 Varek Raith

FFS Square, stop locking my account because your stupid security system assumes we all have static IPs.
Bloody annoying resetting my passwords all the freaking time.
/rant

Once in a freaking blue moon I actually have to log into YouTube, same thing, it always immediately tells me someone else has logged into my account “from a different location” and insists that I change my password Immediately.

If you ignore it the warning just stays there, at the top of every YouTube video page forever (or at least until your log-in cookie expires). What drives me nuts is that the warning asks “Was this you?” but then gives you no way whatsoever to acknowledge that “yes, it was me now stop effing bothering me about it.” You have to change your password to actually make it go away (or simply log out).

284 Bear  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 9:34:46pm

re: #276 Stanley Sea

I bet that there will be very little said about how the project just about destroyed agriculture in the Owens Valley. In the 1960s one could still see where orchards had been cut down.

285 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 9:36:07pm

re: #283 ausador

I always laugh long and hard when I get the reminder “We don’t have your personal information. Give it to us to keep it safe.”

LOLOLOL

286 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 9:56:28pm

Almost as funny as

“I hate the idea of my privacy being invaded so much, I’m going to post from the rally I’m at using my iPhone to twitter and Facebook.”

287 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 10:24:10pm
288 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 10:28:12pm

Image: 135693_original.jpg

289 Kragar  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 10:29:25pm

Fuck you Ewoks.

290 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 10:41:17pm

X-Wing: Wedge’s Gamble

Sometime between two and three years after the Battle of Endor, Wedge Antilles and members of his famous starfighter squadron were on a scouting mission on the galactic capital world, Coruscant. They toured the Galactic Museum as part of their task of monitoring the planet’s social conditions (in preparation for New Republic invasion).

Antilles found several stuffed ewok specimens on display with a note that the innocent creatures had been made extinct on their native world through the actions of rebels. Though unwelcome news to members of the squadron which detonated the battle station, this report appears to be objectively true. The museum display provides satisfying corroboration for the realistic fate of the ewoks, but of course it is not relied upon as primary evidence. (The primary facts are those events of Return of the Jedi which point to the disaster.)

291 piratedan  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 10:41:47pm

re: #289 Kragar

Fuck you Ewoks.

yub yub yourself there!

292 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 10:48:32pm
Avoiding the Endor Holocaust is completely impossible. It is an inevitable consequence of observable facts of the Return of the Jedi film. Endor is a depopulated wasteland.

Bam!
/eevil

293 dog philosopher  Sun, Oct 27, 2013 10:49:31pm

re: #289 Kragar

Fuck you Ewoks.

i thought they were eWoks

good thing you told me before i bought any iWoks

294 Pip's Squeak  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 12:46:30am

re: #174 Vicious Babushka

Istvan Kertesz

295 freetoken  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 1:12:38am

re: #294 Pip’s Squeak

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296 freetoken  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 1:15:12am

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297 freetoken  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 1:15:24am

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298 freetoken  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 1:15:44am

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299 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 1:37:48am

re: #123 Lidane

I wish you’d consider running with Sarah Palin,” one woman said to Ted Cruz. “You’d win.”

They would certainly win the GOP primaries, hands-down…

300 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 1:39:24am

re: #149 Justanotherhuman

The first musicians I remember dying were the Big Bopper, Richie Valens and Buddy Holly. It was 17 days before my 18th birthday.

Yeah, I’m old. : )

Can you remember if you cried when you read about his widowed bride, did something touch you deep inside?

301 urbanmeemaw  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 1:56:19am

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

I’m not saying he personally is a bigot, but I just find it very interesting that this whole dynamic of questioning “spying” and “concern” about “civil liberties is getting traction in the media while Obama is President. Greenwald did raise these questions during Bush’s presidency, to his credit. But it’s the media’s reaction I’m questioning.

302 urbanmeemaw  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 2:03:19am

re: #225 piratedan

I thought cats ruled the world? What am I missing here?

303 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 2:16:32am

re: #301 urbanmeemaw

The Right has always been out to discredit Obama for doing anything, even things they approved of under other Presidents.

The Left is finally disillusioned with the fact that we elect politicians, not idealists, to posts of political power in our country.

The undercurrent to otherwise well-founded criticisms of NSA or Guantanamo is that there is some presumption that the government is doing this out of sheer meanness and the will to dominate us all.

I do not think that is the case, it is a choice between the lesser of two evils: violating privacy/haebeas corpus vs. apprehending/detaining suspected terrorists.

Of course there is potential for abuse. And we need as bit more transparency and accountability than we currently have, but not the type of indiscriminate leaking as we have seen in recent months.

304 freetoken  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 2:34:51am

re: #303 Sol Berdinowitz

The Right has always been out to discredit Obama for doing anything, even things they approved of under other Presidents.

Christmas tree ornaments!

MP3 Audio

305 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 2:42:51am

re: #299 Sol Berdinowitz

They would certainly win the GOP primaries, hands-down…

Two massive egos together on the same stage, each with a special Mission from God.

306 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 3:02:06am

re: #305 wheat-dogghazi

Two massive egos together on the same stage, each with a special Mission from God.

They would win from name recognition alone and for the fact that no other candidates would be able to position themselves to the right of them.

307 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 3:10:21am

Stay calm and carry on.

Two die as storm hits southern UK

bbc.co.uk

“Waking up to travel chaos” seems to be the theme of video.

308 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 3:12:44am

re: #307 Justanotherhuman

Stay calm and carry on.

Two die as storm hits southern UK

bbc.co.uk

“Waking up to travel chaos” seems to be the theme of video.

I appreciate the term “travel chaos”.

German reports like to use the word “Wetterchaos” or “Schneechaos”, which I find inappropriate: the weather is not doing anything chaotic, it is doing what it does, it is the people who are experiencing the chaos by trying to travel in it.

309 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 3:22:55am

re: #308 Sol Berdinowitz

I appreciate the term “travel chaos”.

German reports like to use the word “Wetterchaos” or “Schneechaos”, which I find inappropriate: the weather is not doing anything chaotic, it is doing what it does, it is the people who are experiencing the chaos by trying to travel in it.

Actually, the saying is “Keep calm and carry on”, which you probably know the history of, right? keepcalmandcarryon.com

I remember Brits being described as having a “stiff upper lip” in dealing with issues of chaos, like war…

310 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:21:09am

The stiff upper lip is more than just a matter of character building, it is an expression of their identity and patriotism: no other nation will do without things and put up with more crap without complaining than the British.

311 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:21:31am

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

…snip

“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” - Edmund Burke Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents (1770)

Edmund Burke—Anticorporate union organizer.

312 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:28:46am

re: #311 Decatur Deb

When investors unite to form a corporation, that is praised as the very heart and soul of capitalism. But when workers unite to represent their interests, they are derided as collectivists, socialists and parasites.

313 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:29:05am

re: #306 Sol Berdinowitz

They would win from name recognition alone and for the fact that no other candidates would be able to position themselves to the right of them.

I don’t think so. Ted Cruz has made himself massively unpopular with much of the Republican party, and Sarah Palin just gaffes too much.

314 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:31:00am

re: #307 Justanotherhuman

Stay calm and carry on.

Two die as storm hits southern UK

bbc.co.uk

“Waking up to travel chaos” seems to be the theme of video.

A friend in England just posted this graphic on FB:

Image: 943721_10152290026189692_858283596_n.jpg

315 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:31:45am

re: #313 Dark_Falcon

I don’t think so. Ted Cruz has made himself massively unpopular with much of the Republican party, and Sarah Palin just gaffes too much.

Recall how the GOP primary system works: first past the post and all, those two would each command a large enough initial block to secure enough momentum and enough delegates at an early stage.

316 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:32:02am

re: #311 Decatur Deb

Edmund Burke—Anticorporate union organizer.

He didn’t mean it that way. Ultimately a private-sector labor union must find ways to work with corporations, because they provide the jobs its members need.

317 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:35:18am

re: #307 Justanotherhuman

Stay calm and carry on.

Two die as storm hits southern UK

bbc.co.uk

“Waking up to travel chaos” seems to be the theme of video.

Oh shit.

My boss is there on a business trip right now.

I’ll bet he is PISSED.

318 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:36:45am

re: #315 Sol Berdinowitz

Recall how the GOP primary system works: first past the post and all, those two would each command a large enough initial block to secure enough momentum and enough delegates at an early stage.

It was not structured that way last year, as many state primaries used proportional delegate awards. That by definition makes things take somewhat longer, as would the fact that Ted Cruz would not do well in New Hampshire. Losing the first actual primary (the Iowa Caucuses are not a primary) checks any Republican’s momentum.

319 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:37:44am

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

He didn’t mean it that way. Ultimately a private-sector labor union must find ways to work with corporations, because they provide the jobs its members need.

and unions provide workers the companies need…a balanced system.

I admire American virtues of self-reliance and personal responsibility, but we cannot expect individuals and families with limited resources to negotiate on equal terms with multi-billion dollar international corporations for terms of employment, insurance or financial services.

320 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:41:18am

re: #319 Sol Berdinowitz

and unions provide workers the companies need…a balanced system.

I admire American virtues of self-reliance and personal responsibility, but we cannot expect individuals and families with limited resources to negotiate on equal terms with multi-billion dollar international corporations for terms of employment, insurance or financial services.

As I’ve said before, I have no problem with private-sector unions unless the specific union in question loses sight of reality and/or starts acting like a bunch of assholes. Corporations can earn my ire in the same way.

321 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:43:24am

re: #320 Dark_Falcon

As I’ve said before, I have no problem with private-sector unions unless the specific union in question loses sight of reality and/or starts acting like a bunch of assholes. Corporations can earn my ire in the same way.

Corporations just seem to have the better PR people, they have successfully sold themselves as Job Creators and Captains of Industry while the unions are seen as parasites and collectivists.

322 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:44:29am

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

A friend in England just posted this graphic on FB:

Image: 943721_10152290026189692_858283596_n.jpg

What ,, no locusts!?!?!

323 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:44:41am

re: #309 Justanotherhuman

Actually, the saying is “Keep calm and carry on”, which you probably know the history of, right? keepcalmandcarryon.com

I remember Brits being described as having a “stiff upper lip” in dealing with issues of chaos, like war…

Daughter1 has started a business helping authors self-publish on ebook systems. We bought her this t-shirt:

cafepress.com

Her actual motto is: “I am the English teacher you feared and the editor you need.”

324 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:46:55am

re: #322 sattv4u2

What ,, no locusts!?!?!

The locusts are in France, waiting for the storm to pass…

325 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:48:46am

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

The locusts are in France, waiting for the storm to pass…

Just in case chefs have a shortage of snails!?!?!

326 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:48:57am

37 Weirdly Beautiful Old-School Science and Tech Photos

Read more: life.time.com

You can see, just from these photos, how white males have dominated the sciences over the years.

I suspect they still do, in spite of Neil deGrasse Tyson, and what woman?

This study could also apply to minorities. “Stereotype threat”, I remember you very well, as a woman.

How Stereotypes Can Drive Women To Quit Science

npr.org

327 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:49:00am

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

The locusts are in France, waiting for the storm to pass…

And the Irish are assembling an invasion fleet on the Liffey. Not going to team with the Vikings this time.

328 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:49:09am

re: #325 sattv4u2

Just in case chefs have a shortage of snails!?!?!

yep…

329 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:50:18am

re: #317 Vicious Babushka

Oh shit.

My boss is there on a business trip right now.

I’ll bet he is PISSED.

He should learn to control his anger about things he has no control over, perhaps?

Or he’ll be stroking out.

330 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:52:09am

re: #323 Decatur Deb

Daughter1 has started a business helping authors self-publish on ebook systems. We bought her this t-shirt:

cafepress.com

Her actual motto is: “I am the English teacher you feared and the editor you need.”

Haha, I take it “clam” is not a misprint?

Shut up and proofread. Good advice.

331 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:53:21am

re: #329 Justanotherhuman

He should learn to control his anger about things he has no control over, perhaps?

Or he’ll be stroking out.

He’s a very laid back guy.

Just he was so totally looking forward to his very first international paid-for-by-the company trip.

332 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:55:34am

re: #330 Justanotherhuman

Haha, I take it “clam” is not a misprint?

Shut up and proofread. Good advice.

No wonder I didn’t get into Harverd!

333 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:57:00am

re: #327 Decatur Deb

And the Irish are assembling an invasion fleet on the Liffey. Not going to team with the Vikings this time.

They do need help

They lost to the Packers yesterday!
/

334 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 4:58:59am

re: #330 Justanotherhuman

Haha, I take it “clam” is not a misprint?

Shut up and proofread. Good advice.

We saw a shirt locally, and it took a moment to see the error—probably because ‘clam’ is a real word we store.

Had an eye condition for a while that knocked holes in a line of text I would be reading. I would ‘see’ weird words my mind would force into a text sentence. Had to read everything at work twice.

*Just proofread that.

335 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:00:24am

Car bomb?

Five killed as car ploughs into crowd in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square

reuters.com

336 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:03:21am

re: #335 Justanotherhuman

Car bomb?

Five killed as car ploughs into crowd in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square

reuters.com

Highly unlikely. There were three people in the car, which you don’t see in car-bomb attacks.

337 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:13:40am

Airlines to fat people: take the bus.

338 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:13:48am

re: #336 Dark_Falcon

Highly unlikely. There were three people in the car, which you don’t see in car-bomb attacks.

Perhaps they were trainees.

(One version of the kamikaze ‘baka’ bomb was a two-seater trainer. Few were built.)

339 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:18:12am

re: #337 Vicious Babushka

Airlines to fat people: take the bus.

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Lie-flat business class seats… Hell of the thing is that I sleep better sitting up.

340 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:19:02am

re: #338 Decatur Deb

Perhaps they were trainees.

(One version of the kamikaze ‘baka’ bomb was a two-seater trainer. Few were built.)

That version was a variant on the unarmed trainer, as I recall.

341 Stoatly  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:19:14am

re: #310 Sol Berdinowitz

The stiff upper lip is more than just a matter of character building, it is an expression of their identity and patriotism: no other nation will do without things and put up with more crap without complaining than the British.

As a Brit….

no other nation will do without things and put up with more crap without complainingwill complain about stupid little crap than the British

342 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:19:15am

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

Lie-flat business class seats… Hell of the thing is that I sleep better sitting up.

I can tell by some of your posts here !!!

343 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:19:29am

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

Lie-flat business class seats… Hell of the thing is that I sleep better sitting up.

Thomas Jefferson slept sitting up. You can see his weird bed at Monticello.

344 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:22:26am

Morning dogwalk—BBL.

345 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:24:56am

re: #343 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Thomas Jefferson slept sitting up. You can see his weird bed at Monticello.

Probably had sleep apnea.

346 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:25:05am

re: #342 sattv4u2

I can tell by some of your posts here !!!

SMACK!

347 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:25:19am

re: #344 Decatur Deb

Morning dogwalk—BBL.

Don’t forget to take the dog with you this time
You looked really weird last time, with the leash juts dragging along behind you

348 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:27:21am

re: #336 Dark_Falcon

Highly unlikely. There were three people in the car, which you don’t see in car-bomb attacks.

I’m wondering if it’s a variation of the self-immolations that are nearly impossible to stage on the Square itself. There are security checks at every entrance and police confiscate all liquids — even water bottles. But Tiananmen Square is bordered on all four sides by major traffic arteries, and the entrance to the Forbidden on the north side makes a suitable spot for a “statement.”

But I’m just speculating. Authorities here have made no announcements about causes of the explosion or the identities of the car’s occupants.

349 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:30:40am

re: #348 wheat-dogghazi

I’m wondering if it’s a variation of the self-immolations that are nearly impossible to stage on the Square itself. There are security checks at every entrance and police confiscate all liquids — even water bottles. But Tiananmen Square is bordered on all four sides by major traffic arteries, and the entrance to the Forbidden on the north side makes a suitable spot for a “statement.”

But I’m just speculating. Authorities here have made no announcements about causes of the explosion or the identities of the car’s occupants.

It’s not a self-immolation, I assure you. Those are intended to kill the doer only and Buddhists would actually regard it as vile if such an act killed other people.

350 freetoken  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:35:41am

re: #337 Vicious Babushka

The return of air travel back to being a luxury good has been predicted by many who are into fossil fuel limitations. I think many of these people tend to rush the apocalypse, but in the long run I do believe it’s a reasonable conjecture - flying is a luxury good.

351 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:36:12am

MOAR DERP from the horrific “pro-life” graphic from the other night:

352 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:36:15am

re: #345 Justanotherhuman

Probably had sleep apnea.

There’s a number of different theories as to why he (and some other Colonials) did this, varying from trying to avoid noxious fumes they thought were given off by the stoves of the time to aiding digestion, to simply being more ‘wakeful’ so if they had good ideas in the middle of the night they could leap out and get to work. As far as I know, there’s scant primary evidence to help settle the question.

353 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:37:50am

re: #351 Vicious Babushka

MOAR DERP from the horrific “pro-life” graphic from the other night:

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I think it would be really mean to rip the arms and legs off a baby and criticize the baby at the same time. That’s just a dick move.

354 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:41:04am

re: #351 Vicious Babushka

MOAR DERP from the horrific “pro-life” graphic from the other night:

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355 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:42:20am

re: #354 Dark_Falcon

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Remember you are talking to someone who probably also believes OBAMACARE IS TEH SLAVERY!!!1!!!1!!!!!

356 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:45:55am

re: #355 Vicious Babushka

Remember you are talking to someone who probably also believes OBAMACARE IS TEH SLAVERY!!!1!!!1!!!!!

You know who practiced slavery? Thomas Jefferson

/linking to topics on thread for fun. :)

357 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:48:57am

Today’s Google is dedicated to Hollywood costume designer Edith Head.

358 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:51:25am

re: #349 Dark_Falcon

It’s not a self-immolation, I assure you. Those are intended to kill the doer only and Buddhists would actually regard it as vile if such an act killed other people.

Doesn’t need to be Buddhists. Tibetans are not the only ones being oppressed.

359 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:55:58am

re: #349 Dark_Falcon

It’s not a self-immolation, I assure you. Those are intended to kill the doer only and Buddhists would actually regard it as vile if such an act killed other people.

Buddhists kill people too, y’know.

360 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:59:43am

re: #359 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Buddhists kill people too, y’know.

I know. But they don’t stage self-immolations to do so.

361 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:13:24am
362 b.d.  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:16:52am

The lady has been taken off the healthcare.gov website, cable news channels now have an extra 8 hours of story space available today.

363 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:17:16am

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

A bunch of replies to a Tweet is not “silencing” but in fact it is the opposite of “silencing.”

“Silencing” would be if Twitter removed the Tweet and suspended the account.

364 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:18:17am

re: #362 b.d.

The lady has been taken off the healthcare.gov website, cable news channels now have an extra 8 hours of story space available today.

It’s a cover up! Obama is hiding something!

365 A Mom Anon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:18:38am

So the dog illness saga continues….

I suspect the skin problems are mites. Probably demodex. This poor doggie looks like something has taken literal little chunks out of her fur, giving her the appearance of having little white dots all over her(she’s black and tan, a doberman/german shepherd mix-with short hair). Everytime one of the little flaky patches on her skin comes off, about a dozen hairs go with it. So, it’s off to the vet this morning for a skin scraping (ewww) and maybe this time we’ll figure out what the hell is the problem.

In other news, the kid is back at his program for young adults with autism and seems to be ok. Except for the cooking and eating right thing. They have these great kitchens and no one uses them(or apparently cleans them, which I bitched about, it wasn’t just a little dirty, it was nasty) because everyone microwaves stuff. Which I suppose is normal for 19-24 yr old guys. He comes home this weekend, part of which will be spent cooking and freezing entrees to take back. Seriously, the fridge and freezer in that kitchen have blood from meat frozen and dried inside, and items that might need carbon dating to figure out how old they are. I’m surprised no one has got a food born illness, seriously. But The Teenager seems to be happy and he’s making friends, so a little crud in the kitchen is secondary.

Me, I’m just trying to figure out what’s next after raising my kids. Not so simple. Really daunting.

366 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:18:50am

Frankenstein’s Cat

Image: 993454_783219928374129_1906107146_n.jpg

367 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:19:01am

re: #362 b.d.

The lady has been taken off the healthcare.gov website, cable news channels now have an extra 8 hours of story space available today.

“Nuestra Senorita de Cruzazul”.

368 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:19:04am

With all the brouhaha over ACA, I’m wondering how much taxpayers have spent over 35 yrs of keeping Dick Cheney alive?

Cheney’s defibrillator was modified to prevent hacking

cnn.com

369 sattv4u2  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:22:00am

K kiddies

The long quiet (and slightly wet) drive home beckons

370 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:23:32am

re: #368 Justanotherhuman

With all the brouhaha over ACA, I’m wondering how much taxpayers have spent over 35 yrs of keeping Dick Cheney alive?

Cheney’s defibrillator was modified to prevent hacking

cnn.com

I want a heart running Windows Vista ObamaSoft Linux.

371 b.d.  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:24:28am

re: #364 wheat-dogghazi

It’s a cover up! Obama is hiding something!

QUICK, SOMEONE CHECK FORT MARCY PARK!!1!

372 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:28:29am

re: #363 Vicious Babushka

A bunch of replies to a Tweet is not “silencing” but in fact it is the opposite of “silencing.”

“Silencing” would be if Twitter removed the Tweet and suspended the account.

373 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:28:34am

All right, here they go.

Spain Summons U.S. Ambassador in Spying Scandal

nytimes.com

“The scandal, which has strained relations between Washington and some of its most important allies, has recently focused on whether the N.S.A. targeted the cellphone of the German chancellor, Angela Merkel. The Spanish government has so far declined to discuss whether it had evidence that Washington had spied on Spanish government officials. (my emphasis)

“Spying activities aren’t proper among partner countries and allies,” Mariano Rajoy, Spain’s prime minister, said at a news conference last week in Brussels, where he was attending a meeting of European Union leaders. “

Just how naive are these foreign officials? It may not be “proper”, but it’s done, and they know it’s done.

374 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:30:32am

re: #373 Justanotherhuman

But now they are forced to admit that they know it’s done, and must fall back on High Dudgeon. Thanks, Snowald.

375 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:32:38am

re: #373 Justanotherhuman

All right, here they go.

Spain Summons U.S. Ambassador in Spying Scandal

nytimes.com

“The scandal, which has strained relations between Washington and some of its most important allies, has recently focused on whether the N.S.A. targeted the cellphone of the German chancellor, Angela Merkel. The Spanish government has so far declined to discuss whether it had evidence that Washington had spied on Spanish government officials. (my emphasis)

“Spying activities aren’t proper among partner countries and allies,” Mariano Rajoy, Spain’s prime minister, said at a news conference last week in Brussels, where he was attending a meeting of European Union leaders. “

Just how naive are these foreign officials? It may not be “proper”, but it’s done, and they know it’s done.

They’re not naive. They’re just putting on a show of outrage for the public.

376 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:33:11am

re: #370 Decatur Deb

I want a heart running Windows Vista ObamaSoft Linux.

Cheney and I are the same age—72. He probably wishes he had my heart.

It truly helps you when your life motto is, Do No Harm. It can be hard to live up to, but it’s worth trying. : )

377 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:35:26am

re: #371 b.d.

QUICK, SOMEONE CHECK FORT MARCY PARK!!1!

Interestingly, the fort that once stood on that location was the place where the 19th Indiana, and the 2nd, 6th and 7th Wisconsin Regiments were formed into what became famous as the ‘Iron Brigade’ (the 24th Michigan was added during the Antietam Campaign).

378 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 6:58:36am

IT’S A TEA PARTY RALLY, BUT WITH DUDEBROS!

379 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:01:40am

re: #378 Vicious Babushka

IT’S A TEA PARTY RALLY, BUT WITH DUDEBROS!

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380 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:04:03am

Arrrggghhh!

Is Glenn Greenwald the Future of News?

nytimes.com

I’m actually disturbed that Keller even engaged GG in this kind of conversation and gave him a veneer of credibility.

381 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:04:04am

re: #322 sattv4u2

What ,, no locusts!?!?!

The claims of sunshine in Scotland are pretty dubious as well.
/

382 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:05:33am

re: #378 Vicious Babushka

The sum of all derp.

383 A Mom Anon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:06:33am

re: #378 Vicious Babushka

So it’s a flock of geese, a murder of crows, and a (blank) of dudebros? I like a whining of dudebros. A Durr of Dudebros?

Sigh. That whole thing is so contrived and obvious it’s ridiculous.

384 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:07:17am

re: #380 Justanotherhuman

Arrrggghhh!

Is Glenn Greenwald the Future of News?

nytimes.com

I’m actually disturbed that Keller even engaged GG in this kind of conversation and gave him a veneer of credibility.

I’m not going to read that. I don’t need Greenwald’s sanctimony spiking my blood pressure this early in the morning.

385 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:07:27am

re: #383 A Mom Anon

So it’s a flock of geese, a murder of crows, and a (blank) of dudebros? I like a whining of dudebros. A Durr of Dudebros?

Sigh. That whole thing is so contrived and obvious it’s ridiculous.

A ‘frat’ of dudebros.

386 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:08:02am

re: #383 A Mom Anon

So it’s a flock of geese, a murder of crows, and a (blank) of dudebros? I like a whining of dudebros. A Durr of Dudebros?

Sigh. That whole thing is so contrived and obvious it’s ridiculous.

A Derping of Dudebros.

387 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:08:10am

re: #383 A Mom Anon

So it’s a flock of geese, a murder of crows, and a (blank) of dudebros? I like a whining of dudebros. A Durr of Dudebros?

Sigh. That whole thing is so contrived and obvious it’s ridiculous.

A Herp-a-Derp of dudebros.

388 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:08:11am

re: #383 A Mom Anon

So it’s a flock of geese, a murder of crows, and a (blank) of dudebros? I like a whining of dudebros. A Durr of Dudebros?

Sigh. That whole thing is so contrived and obvious it’s ridiculous.

A rage of Dudebros.

389 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:08:58am

re: #379 Dark_Falcon

Great drone model, though. The builder must be either a modeler or a gamer. Great takedown, BTW.

The drone is the reveal. That wasn’t cheap, and wasn’t done in a couple days.

390 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:09:47am

A Privilege of Dudebros.

391 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:10:41am

re: #388 makeitstop

A rage of Dudebros.

“Snit”.

392 A Mom Anon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:11:04am

re: #383 A Mom Anon

So how many astroturf groups that funded tea party shit are also fostering this crap? Honest to god the so called”left” involved with this bullshit needs a foot in the ass. Idiots.

393 darthstar  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:12:31am

re: #389 Decatur Deb

The drone is the reveal. That wasn’t cheap, and wasn’t done in a couple days.

Stop Watching Us is a grassroots movement sponsored by Northrup Grumman.

394 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:12:32am

re: #385 Decatur Deb

A ‘frat’ of dudebros.

Do not concur. Know too many fraternity brothers who are not white, privileged, pseudo-libertarian whiners. Though some of them are at least the libertarian part. Also know some who are Bible-thumping anti-Obama bigots, some who are ultra-Hawk “patriots”, and even a few who are still rabidly defending the reputation of Joe Paterno. Too broad a behavior spectrum to hang on the Dudebro sect.

395 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:12:44am

re: #392 A Mom Anon

So how many astroturf groups that funded tea party shit are also fostering this crap? Honest to god the so called”left” involved with this bullshit needs a foot in the ass. Idiots.

It will be good for their souls. I went into and out of ANSWER at my first demo.

396 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:14:01am

re: #389 Decatur Deb

The drone is the reveal. That wasn’t cheap, and wasn’t done in a couple days.

No, it wasn’t. It’s very good, and its the kind of model I’d like to have as the centerpiece of the modern warfare section of a couple of the Chicago area’s gaming conventions.

397 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:14:59am

A Sneer of Dudebros.

398 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:15:04am

re: #394 Feline Fearless Leader

Do not concur. Know too many fraternity brothers who are not white, privileged, pseudo-libertarian whiners. Though some of them are at least the libertarian part. Also know some who are Bible-thumping anti-Obama bigots, some who are ultra-Hawk “patriots”, and even a few who are still rabidly defending the reputation of Joe Paterno. Too broad a behavior spectrum to hang on the Dudebro sect.

Animal House is the anomaly. Niedermier is the norm.

399 darthstar  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:15:25am

They’re spent. Never shoot your wad over a government shutdown.

400 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:15:29am
401 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:15:30am

re: #392 A Mom Anon

So how many astroturf groups that funded tea party shit are also fostering this crap? Honest to god the so called”left” involved with this bullshit needs a foot in the ass. Idiots.

Most of them are far-left loons who are beyond teaching. The Democrats are just better at ignoring those people right now anyways.

402 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:16:08am

re: #383 A Mom Anon

So it’s a flock of geese, a murder of crows, and a (blank) of dudebros? I like a whining of dudebros. A Durr of Dudebros?

Sigh. That whole thing is so contrived and obvious it’s ridiculous.

It’s a Greenwald of Dudebros.

403 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:16:19am

re: #399 darthstar

They’re spent. Never shoot your wad over a government shutdown.

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Could just whip out an Immigration reform bill…

404 Internet Tough Guy  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:18:28am

Is Glenn Greenwald racism, treason, and tax evasion the Future of News?

Decoded for your convenience.

405 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:18:53am

re: #399 darthstar

They’re spent. Never shoot your wad over a government shutdown.

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19 days? That’s less than half the total number of weekdays, and yet the GOP complains about the President “vacationing”?

But they’ve got plenty to do - they’ve got to come up with a CR/budget and debt ceiling arrangement to replace the temporary deal covering the period through the end of the year. There’s also immigration reform, and enacting potential improving reforms for the ACA.

Guess what the GOP will probably spend their time with? Benghazi, delay/defund/destroy ACA, and blocking any kind of immigration reform. IOW - SS/DD.

406 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:20:21am

re: #389 Decatur Deb

That drone model looks more air-worthy and stealthy than the supposed working UAVs proffered by the Iranians.

407 darthstar  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:21:04am

re: #405 lawhawk

19 days? That’s less than half the total number of weekdays, and yet the GOP complains about the President “vacationing”?

But they’ve got plenty to do - they’ve got to come up with a CR/budget and debt ceiling arrangement to replace the temporary deal covering the period through the end of the year. There’s also immigration reform, and enacting potential improving reforms for the ACA.

Guess what the GOP will probably spend their time with? Benghazi, delay/defund/destroy ACA, and blocking any kind of immigration reform. IOW - SS/DD.

And they’re planning on cancelling a few of those 19 days.

408 ericblair  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:22:32am

re: #401 Dark_Falcon

Most of them are far-left loons who are beyond teaching. The Democrats are just better at ignoring those people right now anyways.

I don’t think it’s that the Dems can ignore the radicals better; it’s that the radical left is so incapable of any sort of sustained, coordinated action that nothing really needs to be done. Any forward momentum gets bogged down in factionalism and organizational failures almost immediately.

409 darthstar  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:22:41am

re: #403 Decatur Deb

Could just whip out an Immigration reform bill…

And a jobs bill, and a stimulus bill, and a farm bill, and renew SCHIP and SNAP…wait, that would make them Democrats…never mind.

410 Internet Tough Guy  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:22:45am

BTW, for any interested Massholes, Obama’s gonna troll the GOP and have a health care event at Faneuil Hall on Wednesday.

If that locale seems familiar, it’s where Mittens signed the law socializing reforming the MA healthcare system.

411 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:23:55am

WTF Prudence

412 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:23:56am

re: #398 Decatur Deb

Animal House is the anomaly. Niedermier is the norm.

Possibly. And maybe even likely at certain levels of the organization. I belong to a relatively small and very technically oriented fraternity, so my exposure to undergraduates is generally with pretty down-to-earth guys who are definitely not in school with a good car and money from a trust fund. And my contacts beyond that with other fraternities is generally with their national level volunteers and executives. Who generally are doing jobs for the love of working with people since none of the positions pay that much.

413 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:24:21am

re: #408 ericblair

I don’t think it’s that the Dems can ignore the radicals better; it’s that the radical left is so incapable of any sort of sustained, coordinated action that nothing really needs to be done. Any forward momentum gets bogged down in factionalism and organizational failures almost immediately.

Helps that we keep them stoned.

414 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:26:31am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

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I’m still waiting for Greenwald’s incisive investigative report on the actions of the Brazilian Military police during their heavy handed cleanup of favelas preparatory to the World Cup and the Olympics. Since they are probably guarding the exclusive gated community where he lives, he could start by just walking up to the (very high) fence and asking them.

415 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:26:56am

re: #412 Feline Fearless Leader

Possibly. And maybe even likely at certain levels of the organization. I belong to a relatively small and very technically oriented fraternity, so my exposure to undergraduates is generally with pretty down-to-earth guys who are definitely not in school with a good car and money from a trust fund. And my contacts beyond that with other fraternities is generally with their national level volunteers and executives. Who generally are doing jobs for the love of working with people since none of the positions pay that much.

I’m basing my stereotypes on 40 year old observation. Sounds like your ‘frat’ is morphing into ‘honor society’.

416 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:28:08am

re: #405 lawhawk

19 days? That’s less than half the total number of weekdays, and yet the GOP complains about the President “vacationing”?

But they’ve got plenty to do - they’ve got to come up with a CR/budget and debt ceiling arrangement to replace the temporary deal covering the period through the end of the year. There’s also immigration reform, and enacting potential improving reforms for the ACA.

The budget is being worked on behind closed doors, so far between Congressman Ryan and Senator Murray. Most of the House can’t be let into the process till later, because otherwise Yoho, Gohmert, and the rest of their motley crew would start flinging teabags and lumps of shit like a bunch of Howler Monkeys.

417 Internet Tough Guy  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:28:48am

re: #414 Shiplord Kirel

But that would mean treating the poors as human.

Maybe if they were “cleaned up” by drones or Israelis it would be worth it.

/gg

418 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:29:50am

re: #416 Dark_Falcon

The budget is being worked on behind closed doors, so far between Congressman Ryan and Senator Murray. Most of the House can’t be let into the process till later, because otherwise Yoho, Gohmert, and the rest of their motley crew would start flinging teabags and lumps of shit like a bunch of Howler Monkeys.

Heaven forbid anyone should mar one of Ryan’s legislative masterpieces.

419 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:30:38am
420 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:30:58am

re: #411 Vicious Babushka

WTF Prudence

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Eh, what do you expect, she’s a Cardinals fan.

421 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:31:10am

[Dudebro]NSA IS WORSE THAN AL-QAEDA!!!1!!!1!!!1[/Dudebro]

422 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:31:46am

usnews.nbcnews.com

Kabuki. Other countries know the US is spying, but are required to act angry if the US is “caught” doing so. US also has to act like they regret it, look down as they kick the ground and say “Aw shucks.”. Everything returns to status quo where everyone spies on everyone else.

423 Internet Tough Guy  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:32:18am

re: #419 Vicious Babushka

Not consulted: Afghanis and Pakistanis

424 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:32:46am

WTFITS

425 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:34:10am
426 Targetpractice  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:34:28am

re: #424 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

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Repeating a meme started by a brain-dead Congress critter.

427 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:35:03am

re: #424 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

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That’s the text that was in the HTML comment that some wingnut was freaking out about in the hearings last week.

428 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:35:07am

Not included in previous post:
Sexy Ed Snowden costume
Sexy Ted Cruz costume
Non-sexy Miley Cyrus costume

429 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:35:12am

re: #424 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

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She’s quoting a block of text supposedly contained in the healthcare.gov software. Someone, perhaps Charles, pointed out that it’s isolated in a programmer’s comment.

430 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:35:48am

re: #427 makeitstop

That’s the text that was in the HTML comment that some wingnut was freaking out about in the hearings last week.

re: #429 Decatur Deb

She’s quoting a block of text supposedly contained in the healthcare.gov software. Someone, perhaps Charles, pointed out that it’s isolated in a programmer’s comment.

I know that, why is Ann Tweeting it?

431 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:35:51am

re: #415 Decatur Deb

I’m basing my stereotypes on 40 year old observation. Sounds like your ‘frat’ is morphing into ‘honor society’.

Not really. It’s been a social fraternity with a restriction on majors they recruit from the get go - founded 1907. The restrictions have loosened a bit since then*, but it is still pretty much engineers and science majors only.

*- When founded it was Civil Engineers only. By the 1930s it was Engineers and Architects. The Sciences got added post-WW2, and I think the last explicit broadening was in the late 70s for IT and Biology.

432 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:36:10am

re: #418 Decatur Deb

Heaven forbid anyone should mar one of Ryan’s legislative masterpieces.

He knows the budget is going to be a compromise and he’s being rational about it. Though Paul Ryan’s involvement is a secondary reason for the closed doors: So the left-liberal ‘netroots’ don’t gum things up screaming about how evil Paul Ryan and his budget priorities are.

Note: ‘Netroots’ are left-liberal, not far-left.

433 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:37:07am

re: #417 Internet Tough Guy

But that would mean treating the poors as human.

Maybe if they were “cleaned up” by drones or Israelis it would be worth it.

/gg

True that. Btw, it’s my understanding the Rio MPs had very lengthy and precise lists of the suspects they wanted to round up during their massive sweeps. They reportedly bagged most of them, from genuine scumbags to people suspected of loitering while poor. I wonder how much spying went into that, and whether privacy rights and civil liberties were strictly observed. (Actually, having been to Brazil, I don’t wonder at all: they weren’t))

434 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:38:03am

re: #430 Vicious Babushka

I know that, why is Ann Tweeting it?

Temporary outrage mechanism, until the new talking points are delivered.
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435 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:38:16am

re: #422 Feline Fearless Leader

usnews.nbcnews.com

Kabuki. Other countries know the US is spying, but are required to act angry if the US is “caught” doing so. US also has to act like they regret it, look down as they kick the ground and say “Aw shucks.”. Everything returns to status quo where everyone spies on everyone else.

Why not just, as Peter King suggested, admit we did it and refuse to apologize?

436 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:38:21am

re: #431 Feline Fearless Leader

Yup. Not the BMOCs in an SEC school.

437 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:40:33am

re: #435 Dark_Falcon

Why not just, as Peter King suggested, admit we did it and refuse to apologize?

That wouldn’t be diplomatic, even in French.

438 A Mom Anon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:42:24am

OK, time for a vet appointment and then, the chores. Later Lizards. Have a wonderful day.

439 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:44:31am

re: #341 Stoatly

As a Brit….

no other nation will do without things and put up with more crap without complainingwill complain about stupid little crap than the British

Lemme clarify and quantify: they will complain privately and at home, but not to the person at the time who has failed to provide reasonable prices/products/services.

440 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:45:43am

re: #437 Decatur Deb

That wouldn’t be diplomatic, even in French.

So? It might actually help end this charade and might get the more of the public to stop pretending and accept reality. Pussyfooting around isn’t working and I’ve always preferred the direct approach myself.

441 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:46:11am

re: #397 Vicious Babushka

A Sneer of Dudebros.

An Assange of Dudebros

442 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:51:55am

re: #435 Dark_Falcon

Why not just, as Peter King suggested, admit we did it and refuse to apologize?

Not the way the game works.

443 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:53:13am

re: #440 Dark_Falcon

So? It might actually help end this charade and might get the more of the public to stop pretending and accept reality. Pussyfooting around isn’t working and I’ve always preferred the direct approach myself.

Do you have a fair grasp of ‘the public’s’ tolerance for reality? Focusing on fostering their more benign delusions, myself.

444 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:54:43am

re: #428 Vicious Babushka

Not included in previous post:
Sexy Ed Snowden costume
Sexy Ted Cruz costume
Non-sexy Miley Cyrus costume

That’s MIley in any costume for me. Lately, she’s been going for the doped-up bar tramp look. And she needs to keep her tongue in her mouth.

445 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:54:45am
446 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:56:26am

Figures:

447 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:57:10am

re: #428 Vicious Babushka

Not included in previous post:
Sexy Ed Snowden costume
Sexy Ted Cruz costume
Non-sexy Miley Cyrus costume

And Sexy Ed and Ted are just not possible in this universe.

448 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:58:49am

good morning fellow lizards.

449 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 7:59:33am

re: #442 Feline Fearless Leader

Not the way the game works.

The game has changed:

Youtube Video

450 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:00:33am

re: #444 wheat-dogghazi

That’s MIley in any costume for me. Lately, she’s been going for the doped-up bar tramp look. And she needs to keep her tongue in her mouth.

Truly. The tongue thing is new to me, and always brings to mind The Animaniacs.

Image: animaniacs-state-capitals-census-2010.jpg

451 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:01:12am

re: #444 wheat-dogghazi

That’s MIley in any costume for me. Lately, she’s been going for the doped-up bar tramp look. And she needs to keep her tongue in her mouth.

Agreed. There’s daring and sexy, and then there’s just plain trashy. Right now she’s firmly in ‘trashy’ territory.

452 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:01:54am

re: #450 Decatur Deb

Truly. The tongue thing is new to me, and always brings to mind The Animaniacs.

Image: animaniacs-state-capitals-census-2010.jpg

The link didn’t work.

453 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:02:34am

re: #440 Dark_Falcon

So? It might actually help end this charade and might get the more of the public to stop pretending and accept reality. Pussyfooting around isn’t working and I’ve always preferred the direct approach myself.

The public that is gnashing their teeth about this are voluntary in accepting the delusion. Any *serious* research on the subject would immediately make clear that countries have spied, are spying, and will continue to spy on each other to collect data useful for military, economic, or political reasons.

And you yell scream and carry on when you catch someone with the expectation they will issue some sort of not-pology. Which you then accept.

It they don’t apologize and issue the diplomatic equivalent of “Fuck You”, then you have to escalate things since they have now disrespected your sovereign country. So you expel some diplomats, recall an ambassador, or walk out of some conference. And the kerfluffle escalates from there.

It’s like a bunch of children on a playground. There are “rules” for what you say, when you back down, etc. and face is very important*. Breaking the rules causes further displays and escalations.

* - And remember that if a leader of a country is not properly strident in defending their reputation they are immediately targeted internally as being “soft” or a “lackey” in not standing up. And a variant of this is the ritual outrage display aimed at the US (or other chosen power) to show that they are not cowed by the big bully on the playground. (And Greenwald has been playing to this as well with the various releases.)

454 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:02:43am

re: #450 Decatur Deb

Bill the Cat.

455 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:02:43am

re: #452 Dark_Falcon

The link didn’t work.

Working here (FF/Linux) Takes a few seconds.

456 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:02:58am

ADL Lists Top 10 Anti-Israel Groups in America in 2013

The Top 10 Anti-Israel Groups, as identified by ADL, are:
◾ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism)
◾American Muslims for Palestine
◾CODEPINK
◾Friends of Sabeel-North America
◾If Americans Knew/Council for the National Interest
◾Jewish Voice for Peace
◾Muslim Public Affairs Council
◾Neturei Karta
◾Students for Justice in Palestine
◾U.S. Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation

Full report can be found here: adl.org

CAIR and MAS didn’t make the list this year….

The other two groups that have been removed are the Muslim American Society (MAS) and the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), large Muslim-American advocacy organizations that have a long history of anti-Israel activism.
While both groups still post anti-Israel messages and articles to their social media pages and invite speakers who are critical of Israel to attend their events, both organizations have taken a step back from organizing anti-Israel activity and have not been on the frontline of coordinating or participating in anti- Israel protests as they had several years ago.

457 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:03:17am

re: #454 Vicious Babushka

Bill the Cat.

Very much.

458 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:05:20am

re: #456 Killgore Trout

ADL Lists Top 10 Anti-Israel Groups in America in 2013

Full report can be found here: adl.org

CAIR and MAS didn’t make the list this year….

Guess they like Hagee and the Christian Zionists.

459 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:06:16am

re: #450 Decatur Deb

Truly. The tongue thing is new to me, and always brings to mind The Animaniacs.

Image: animaniacs-state-capitals-census-2010.jpg

The tongue thing is something a junior high school student does to look like the guys in KISS — all cool and stuff. Why Miley thinks it’s attractive, or sexy, or whatever, I cannot imagine.

She posed for some pix for some hotshot celeb photog who’s way over paid and overrated, IMHO. Not miuch better than her famous twerking routine.

460 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:07:30am

re: #459 wheat-dogghazi

The tongue thing is something a junior high school student does to look like the guys in KISS — all cool and stuff. Why Miley thinks it’s attractive, or sexy, or whatever, I cannot imagine.

She posed for some pix for some hotshot celeb photog who’s way over paid and overrated, IMHO. Not miuch better than her famous twerking routine.

When I think ‘sexy’, my mind always defaults to Kiss.

461 ericblair  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:07:51am

re: #442 Feline Fearless Leader

Not the way the game works.

It also forces other countries’ hands and makes them do counterproductive things. A lot of this spying will be with the other countries’ implicit or explicit consent, and some of this is going to be counterespionage as well. Losing espionage means you lose the verification capability for whether other countries are operating as you expect. If you lose visibility, a nervous leader can start jumping to all the wrong conclusions because of lack of information with disastrous results.

If you want a decrease in world tension, getting rid of spying isn’t the way to do it. However, it’s pretty clear that Greenwald just wants chaos and revenge for personal slights, so it doesn’t matter to him.

462 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:08:19am

re: #460 Decatur Deb

When I think ‘sexy’, my mind always defaults to Kiss.

OOOKKKay then. Moving on …

463 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:09:59am

re: #461 ericblair

It also forces other countries’ hands and makes them do counterproductive things. A lot of this spying will be with the other countries’ implicit or explicit consent, and some of this is going to be counterespionage as well. Losing espionage means you lose the verification capability for whether other countries are operating as you expect. If you lose visibility, a nervous leader can start jumping to all the wrong conclusions because of lack of information with disastrous results.

If you want a decrease in world tension, getting rid of spying isn’t the way to do it. However, it’s pretty clear that Greenwald just wants chaos and revenge for personal slights, so it doesn’t matter to him.

Glenn Greenwald is Professor Chaos!

464 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:10:14am

The underlying message that both the extreme Left and Right can latch onto is that the Government and the NSA are doing this out of sheer cussedness and a desire to control and dominate us.

They are doing this because that is what they are tasked to do: maintain security. Surveillance is a part of that task.

I admit there is a lot of potential for abuse and the system is lacking in transparency and accountability, but indiscriminate data dumps are not necessarily the way to improve things.

465 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:11:10am

Good night from the Middle Kingdom. Got a busy day tomorrow, so I needs me some shuteye.

466 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:14:33am

re: #453 Feline Fearless Leader

The public that is gnashing their teeth about this are voluntary in accepting the delusion. Any *serious* research on the subject would immediately make clear that countries have spied, are spying, and will continue to spy on each other to collect data useful for military, economic, or political reasons.

And you yell scream and carry on when you catch someone with the expectation they will issue some sort of not-pology. Which you then accept.

It they don’t apologize and issue the diplomatic equivalent of “Fuck You”, then you have to escalate things since they have now disrespected your sovereign country. So you expel some diplomats, recall an ambassador, or walk out of some conference. And the kerfluffle escalates from there.

It’s like a bunch of children on a playground. There are “rules” for what you say, when you back down, etc. and face is very important*. Breaking the rules causes further displays and escalations.

* - And remember that if a leader of a country is not properly strident in defending their reputation they are immediately targeted internally as being “soft” or a “lackey” in not standing up. And a variant of this is the ritual outrage display aimed at the US (or other chosen power) to show that they are not cowed by the big bully on the playground. (And Greenwald has been playing to this as well with the various releases.)

I’m sorry, but I think the delusion is in this case too dangerous to enable. I’d rather force the confrontation because I think that forcing it could cause Americans to line up behind their own government against the angry foreigners. I’ll take the diplomatic and trade damage for the chance to make real domestic headway.

467 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:15:23am

re: #464 Sol Berdinowitz

The underlying message that bot the extreme Left and Right can latch onto is that the Government and the NSA are doing this out of sheer cussedness and a desire to control and dominate us.

They are doing this because that is what they are tasked to do: maintain security. Surveillance is a part of that task.

I admit there is a lot of potential for abuse and the system is lacking in transparency and accountability, but indiscriminate data dumps are not necessarily the way to improve things.

PIYF

468 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:17:09am

Mental note. If you eat an edible in hopes of it helping you fall asleep it will not kick in until about an hour after you wake up the next morning.

469 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:24:22am
470 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:31:26am

I’m going to skip to the end with this article and its epic knock down of the far-left. It’s about a Salon written by Natasha Lennard:

Quote of the Day: Salon Slams Russell Brand and Proves Why the Far-Left Is a Joke
By Chez Pazienza * October 25,2013

Now, I’m not sure I need to point out the obvious but just in case: Lennard, and the other writers she quotes, have such a problem with cheeky comedian Russell Brand’s admission that he’s a sexual being and can be swayed by someone with good looks that they’re willing to pen lengthy, self-important screeds lamenting that fact and arguing that it costs him his ability to be taken seriously. To paraphrase the great philosopher Dean Vernon Wormer, smug, joyless, and intransigent is no way to go through life. It’s certainly not a way to impact the people who live outside of your little bubble of true believers — the people, by the way, that you need on your side to make a political movement successful.

Maybe to Lennard’s credit, she sticks to her guns and insists that the reason she refused to rally around Julian Assange and Rand Paul was precisely because she feels that while they may be right, in her view, on one or two topics she happens to believe in, they’ve still exhibited sexist behavior or have taken stands that are stridently anti-women. We wrote a lot here about how many people seemed to be willing to give that kind of thing a pass, especially when it came to Rand Paul and his ridiculous drones stand, merely because they valued one particular pet issue instead of looking at the big picture. But actually, that may prove the point even further that each of the various groups that make up the far-left seems to be unable to take anything beyond its individual grievances into consideration. Natasha Lennard won’t back Rand Paul, even though she agrees with his bullshit posturing on drones, because he’s wrong on her pet issue. Guys like David Sirota, meanwhile, will support Rand Paul despite his anti-women positions because drones are his pet issue. Chaos reigns and not a damn thing actually gets accomplished for left-wing politics because nobody can imagine compromising — and if you’re not 100% on board with each group’s political charter or conform completely to its point-of-view, you get long-winded articles written about you, attacking you from your own side, in Salon.

All of this — this is why those on the far-left fail again and again and will continue to.

This is why all they can do is rant online and in the streets; comforted, I suppose, by the knowledge that their idealism remains unsullied and uncompromised; oblivious to the fact that it’s also utterly useless.

This point should also be applied to wingnuts as applicable.

471 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:32:49am

re: #470 Dark_Falcon

I’m going to skip to the end with this article and its epic knock down of the far-left. It’s about a Salon written by Natasha Lennard:

Quote of the Day: Salon Slams Russell Brand and Proves Why the Far-Left Is a Joke
By Chez Pazienza * October 25,2013

This point should also be applied to wingnuts as applicable.

tl;dr

472 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:40:05am
473 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:43:53am

re: #470 Dark_Falcon

I’m going to skip to the end with this article and its epic knock down of the far-left. It’s about a Salon written by Natasha Lennard:

Quote of the Day: Salon Slams Russell Brand and Proves Why the Far-Left Is a Joke
By Chez Pazienza * October 25,2013

This point should also be applied to wingnuts as applicable.

Interesting article. It’s frustrating to see so many people flocking to celebrities spouting generic nonsense. I think part of the problem is many people don’t see the history. Brand’s rant was nothing new, it the same old stuff delivered by a new celebrity messenger. Kind of like all the Hollywood movie remakes; same old plot recast with hot new young actors. It looks fresh to a lot of people but the content is stale, old and vapid.

474 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:45:57am

To describe people like you, David.

475 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:51:40am

re: #473 Killgore Trout

Interesting article. It’s frustrating to see so many people flocking to celebrities spouting generic nonsense. I think part of the problem is many people don’t see the history. Brand’s rant was nothing new, it the same old stuff delivered by a new celebrity messenger. Kind of like all the Hollywood movie remakes; same old plot recast with hot new young actors. It looks fresh to a lot of people but the content is stale, old and vapid.

I though you’d be more drawn to two lines:

Would you like to know why Occupy was a failure as a movement? Read that again. Over and over if necessary.

and

Again, this is why Occupy failed.

476 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:53:04am

GQ hits it out of the park. Brilliant article on what is happening to our combat drone pilots. PTSD. Psycologists have one rather upsetting solution. I have another, kinder idea.
Paged.

477 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:54:00am
478 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:54:47am
479 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 8:58:14am

re: #475 Dark_Falcon

I though >you’d be more drawn to two lines:

and

Yeah, I caught that too. But I think it’s only part of the reason why OWS failed, there were many problems.

480 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 9:02:20am

re: #479 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I caught that too. But I think it’s only part of the reason why OWS failed, there were many problems.

Most of which would likely be resolved one way or another with decent leadership. Mic check just is not leadership. It’s just semi directed discussion.

481 sagehen  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 9:02:40am

re: #352 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

There’s a number of different theories as to why he (and some other Colonials) did this, varying from trying to avoid noxious fumes they thought were given off by the stoves of the time to aiding digestion, to simply being more ‘wakeful’ so if they had good ideas in the middle of the night they could leap out and get to work. As far as I know, there’s scant primary evidence to help settle the question.

Maybe because 18th century mattress technology was… lumpy at best.

482 Killgore Trout  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 9:09:31am

re: #480 Political Atheist

Most of which would likely be resolved one way or another with decent leadership. Mic check just is not leadership. It’s just semi directed discussion.

Agreed, the right leadership could have avoided a lot of problems but I think it was pretty unlikely they would have chosen productive leaders. Another inherent problem ties in with the ADL’s list of top anti-Israel hate groups l Iinked to earlier. Code Pink, ANSWER, and International Solidarity Movement are very active on the far left but their ability is rapidly waning. Kind of ironic to think that the recession has wounded the ability of anti-capitalist groups. They might see a resurgence with the next Republican president but maybe their time is done.

483 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 9:20:36am

re: #482 Killgore Trout

Agreed, the right leadership could have avoided a lot of problems but I think it was pretty unlikely they would have chosen productive leaders. Another inherent problem ties in with the ADL’s list of top anti-Israel hate groups l Iinked to earlier. Code Pink, ANSWER, and International Solidarity Movement are very active on the far left but their ability is rapidly waning. Kind of ironic to think that the recession has wounded the ability of anti-capitalist groups. They might see a resurgence with the next Republican president but maybe their time is done.

I can not imagine any of the worthwhile movements getting any traction without popular if not necessarily charismatic leadership. As to the far left, their popularity is cyclical. As is the right when a long term viewpoint is taken.

484 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 9:21:25am

Dumbest Man on Teh Internets:
Hey DUMBASS, it’s the GOP Emergency Manager who wants to loot the pensions!

485 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 9:26:11am

re: #475 Dark_Falcon

He can’t make an MBF argument out of it so it’s not important right now. He’ll get back to being scared of the red under his bed later.

486 Eventual Carrion  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 9:28:56am

re: #449 Dark_Falcon

The game has changed:

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Wasn’t that the excuse (or some such) they used to push through the Patriot Act?

487 sagehen  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 9:33:41am

re: #479 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I caught that too. But I think it’s only part of the reason why OWS failed, there were many problems.

“The Newsroom” illustrates why OWS failed:

Youtube Video

488 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 9:34:04am

re: #484 Vicious Babushka

Dumbest Man on Teh Internets:
Hey DUMBASS, it’s the GOP Emergency Manager who wants to loot the pensions!

It’s the Democrats’ fault for demanding pensions in the first place…

489 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 9:37:35am

I swear, I think they put drugs in Cheez-Its.

490 geoffm33  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 9:43:16am

re: #489 Justanotherhuman

I swear, I think they put drugs in Cheez-Its.

Oh, there is :)

The primary protein in milk is casein. When the human body digests casein, it produces casomorphins, which have an opiate-like effect on humans. Because cheese is denser than, for example, milk, the casein is more heavily concentrated, meaning that eating cheese produces a larger amount of casomorphins in the body compared to eating other dairy products.

Linky

491 Bear  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 9:49:52am

re: #490 geoffm33

Darn! Another food on the do not eat list.

492 Weet  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 9:49:54am

The Fifth Estate update:

Domestic Total as of Oct 27: $2,840,000
Production Cost: $28,000,000

Hahahahhahahahhahahhahhahahahhah

493 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 9:57:16am

Charles Johnson

That was weird.

494 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:02:21am

Today’s GOP: Or how that rebranding effort is going:

usatoday.com

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., says he’ll block a vote on President Obama’s nominees until the White House provides more information about the survivors of last year’s deadly attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya.

Graham, a vocal critic of what happened at Benghazi, posted on Twitter that he’ll block “every appointment” from getting a vote in the U.S. Senate.

The first test could come later Monday when the Senate considers the nomination of Richard Griffin to be general counsel of the National Labor Relations Board. Griffin’s nomination has long been opposed by Republicans.

Four Americans, including U.S. ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, were killed in the attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya. Graham’s threat comes a day after CBS’ 60 Minutes aired a report that included an eyewitness account from a former British soldier.

So, the ACA defund/delay/destroy didn’t work, so they’re back to their greatest mishits - Benghazi boogaloo two. The sequel.

495 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:05:46am

re: #490 geoffm33

Oh, there is :)

Linky

Well, if we’re going to ingest morphine, I suppose cheese is the way to go.

I must say, I eat some form of cheese everyday—just bought some blue cheese today that I use in salads (usually have a large one daily). That, goat cheese, and pepper jack tend to be my favorites.

Ever have a pepper jack, tomato and onion sandwich on whole grain bread grilled in butter? Heavenly. : )

496 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:11:22am

More Reser recalls in TN and MD.

fda.gov

These appear to be mix your own types of prepped broccoli, probably sold in bags in these stores.

497 klys  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:15:09am

re: #431 Feline Fearless Leader

Not really. It’s been a social fraternity with a restriction on majors they recruit from the get go - founded 1907. The restrictions have loosened a bit since then*, but it is still pretty much engineers and science majors only.

*- When founded it was Civil Engineers only. By the 1930s it was Engineers and Architects. The Sciences got added post-WW2, and I think the last explicit broadening was in the late 70s for IT and Biology.

I’m gonna go with “what is Triangle” and you’re a nerd.

*I can say this because I’m a member of ASK.

498 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:23:24am
“In Kentucky, about a third of folks going on Medicaid and getting qualified health care plans are under 35 years old. That’s what’s going to happen around this country. People are going to sign up for this. it will take a while to get it in process, but I guarantee we’ll make it work because it’s good for the American people.”

Beshear: In Kentucky About a Third of Folks Getting Health Plans Are Under 35

499 Kragar  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:32:25am

re: #474 Vicious Babushka

To describe people like you, David.

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500 GeneJockey  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:40:13am

re: #499 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Almost TOO easy, huh?

501 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:42:08am

re: #495 Justanotherhuman

Well, if we’re going to ingest morphine, I suppose cheese is the way to go.

I must say, I eat some form of cheese everyday—just bought some blue cheese today that I use in salads (usually have a large one daily). That, goat cheese, and pepper jack tend to be my favorites.

Ever have a pepper jack, tomato and onion sandwich on whole grain bread grilled in butter? Heavenly. : )

I used to do quick sandwiches while doing yard work that was provolone or (preferably) smoked gouda with sauerkraut on a roll.

502 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:44:48am

re: #497 klys

I’m gonna go with “what is Triangle” and you’re a nerd.

*I can say this because I’m a member of ASK.

Heh. :)

503 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:48:52am

WTFITS

504 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:49:03am

re: #494 lawhawk

Today’s GOP: Or how that rebranding effort is going:

usatoday.com

So, the ACA defund/delay/destroy didn’t work, so they’re back to their greatest mishits - Benghazi boogaloo two. The sequel.

Aww look Lindsay’s a afraid of being defeated in a primary so he’s going ot pull this. shit.

505 GeneJockey  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:49:17am

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

Beshear: In Kentucky About a Third of Folks Getting Health Plans Are Under 35

I saw a headline on Yahoo, about a potential ‘Obamacare Death Spiral’, and unable to resist clicking on it, found that it was written by some clown from AEI. He was saying if healthy people don’t sign up, it’ll just be sick people, and it’ll be too expensive.

THAT is where we ALREADY were, but without any incentive for healthy people to sign up, except the possibility of pre-existing conditions.

BTW, if I hear ONE MORE idiot talking about young people being required to buy health insurance ‘they don’t really need’, I’m going to explode. Life insurance, fire and flood insurance, car insurance etc. are all things most people ‘don’t really need’.

I’ve had life insurance for 20 years, and haven’t died, so I didn’t “need” it.

I’ve used my car insurance twice in 35 years of owning cars. My wife hasn’t used hers at all, so we didn’t “need” it.

Our house has not been burgled, burned, or flooded, nor has anything large fallen on, or driven into it, so we didn’t “need” our homeowners insurance.

The same people who say, “You don’t need a gun, until you really, really need it” are trying to argue just the reverse about health insurance, and as a twofer, they will loudly denounce as irresponsible anyone who DOESN’T get health insurance, and then gets badly and expensively sick.

Tell me again why we should be civil to these people?

506 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:49:48am

re: #503 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

[Embedded content]

Typical.

507 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:51:12am

re: #505 GeneJockey

Young & healthy people without health insurance are one motorcycle accident away from destitution.

508 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:51:59am

re: #495 Justanotherhuman

A fave of mine is hard salami, feta cheese and tomatoes sliced or even better roasted and spread. It’s my middle of the work week indulgent lunch.

509 GeneJockey  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:54:05am

re: #507 Vicious Babushka

Young & healthy people without health insurance are one motorcycle accident away from destitution.

Healthy hipsters on fixies are one suddenly opened door away from destitution.

510 GeneJockey  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:55:10am

re: #494 lawhawk

Today’s GOP: Or how that rebranding effort is going:

usatoday.com

So, the ACA defund/delay/destroy didn’t work, so they’re back to their greatest mishits - Benghazi boogaloo two. The sequel.

DEFUND BENGHAZI!!!!!11!1!

511 dog philosopher  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:55:31am

“Interesting” Assertions

As the Manhattan Institute figured out in a study,

on average, the cheapest plan offered in a given state, under Obamacare, will be 99 percent more expensive for men, and 62 percent more expensive for women, than the cheapest plan offered under the old system. And those disparities are even wider for healthy people.

512 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:56:24am

re: #505 GeneJockey

The same people who say, “You don’t need a gun, until you really, really need it” are trying to argue just the reverse about health insurance, and as a twofer, they will loudly denounce as irresponsible anyone who DOESN’T get health insurance, and then gets badly and expensively sick.

False comparison:

We have a God-given right to own guns. We have a God-given right to refuse to buy insurance. We have a God-given right to go bankrupt over medical bills.

/

513 Mattand  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:58:12am

re: #505 GeneJockey

I saw a headline on Yahoo, about a potential ‘Obamacare Death Spiral’, and unable to resist clicking on it, found that it was written by some clown from AEI. He was saying if healthy people don’t sign up, it’ll just be sick people, and it’ll be too expensive.

THAT is where we ALREADY were, but without any incentive for healthy people to sign up, except the possibility of pre-existing conditions.

BTW, if I hear ONE MORE idiot talking about young people being required to buy health insurance ‘they don’t really need’, I’m going to explode. Life insurance, fire and flood insurance, car insurance etc. are all things most people ‘don’t really need’.

I’ve had life insurance for 20 years, and haven’t died, so I didn’t “need” it.

I’ve used my car insurance twice in 35 years of owning cars. My wife hasn’t used hers at all, so we didn’t “need” it.

Our house has not been burgled, burned, or flooded, nor has anything large fallen on, or driven into it, so we didn’t “need” our homeowners insurance.

The same people who say, “You don’t need a gun, until you really, really need it” are trying to argue just the reverse about health insurance, and as a twofer, they will loudly denounce as irresponsible anyone who DOESN’T get health insurance, and then gets badly and expensively sick.

This cannot be stated enough. When I got my first job 24 years ago, my father would not shut up until I practically signed an affidavit stating my employer was providing health insurance. I was 23 at the time.

The conservative/GOP/Tea Bag shit-for-brains jackasses who are telling young people not to get health insurance? I absolutely guarantee you that they are making sure their kids have coverage five ways to Sunday.

Tell me again why we should be civil to these people?

Preaching to the choir, friend. I am failing to see where civility is helping in this debate.

514 Internet Tough Guy  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 11:08:59am

>Manhattan Institute

Stopped reading right there.

515 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 11:11:15am

Good sky the next few days. ISON becomes visible in decent binoculars and amateur scopes.

newswatch.nationalgeographic.com


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