Something Scary for Halloween Night: SHHH

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11 min I Fantasy/Horror I México/Canada

“Shhh” is a dark fairytale about a young boy, Guillermo, who uses his imagination to overcome his monstrous bully at night. Tired of being scared, Guillermo eventually takes matters into his own hands. Inspired by the lucid dreams of director Guillermo del Toro during childhood.

At the very beginning of this interview, Guillermo del Toro discusses these childhood experiences with monster nightmares and lucid dreaming, which inspired this film.

This is an anti-bullying project created in our spare time with a low budget. A tribute to one the filmmakers we look up to since we were kids, Guillermo del Toro. It couldn’t have been completed without many sleepless nights and a lot of help & support from our talented cast, crew, family and colleagues. The film had a great response in the festival circuit and we’re very happy to finally share it with all of you here.
Please share/like/comment this film if you enjoyed it. We hope to bring more fun stuff to you. Gracias!

Happy Halloween!!! :)

-Freddy Chávez Olmos & Shervin Shoghian-

OFFICIAL WEBSITE:
www.shhh-film.com
FACEBOOK:
facebook.com/ShhhFilm
TWITTER:
twitter.com/shhhfilm
SUPPORT ANTI-BULLYING AWARENESS:
pinkshirtday.ca/

CONTACT:
info@shhh-film.com

(c) What is F, Swerve Studios & Means of Production. Distributed by Indiecan Entertainment.

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1 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 5:46:46pm
2 b.d.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 5:49:32pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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If I had a nickel for every Washington Bubble joke told over that sight I would be a wealthy man.

3 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 5:53:58pm

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4 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 5:54:58pm
5 thedopefishlives  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 5:57:22pm

re: #4 Kragar

Speaking of which, I found out today that my wife’s birth control prescription was 100% covered by my insurance, while my high blood pressure prescription costs $5 per refill. Says I, “Well, I guess that means our sex life will be great, until my heart explodes halfway through.”

6 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 5:57:39pm
7 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 5:58:19pm
8 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 5:58:41pm

re: #6 wrenchwench

Great minds

9 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 5:59:41pm

As if the day’s news can’t get rougher, it looks like things are heating up in Israel, Gaza, and Syria:

Hamas fired mortars at Israeli forces after they crossed into Gaza to go after smuggling tunnels. 5 IDF soldiers were injured in the fighting.

Hamas sources say operatives fired mortar shells after IDF tanks crossed border in area where terror tunnel previously uncovered leading from Gaza to southern Israel; IDF soldiers lightly, moderately wounded in exchange.

Then, there’s ongoing reports that Israel went after a Syrian weapons depot or transfer points where the IDF believed missiles and other weapons were being transferred to Hizbullah. The US confirmed that Israel targeted and eliminated two such transfer points.

The official, speaking to CNN, said Israel targeted missiles and related equipment out of concern that they would be transferred to Hezbollah.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which collates reports from opposition activists, said there had been an explosion at a Syrian air defense base near Jableh, in the Mediterranean coastal province of Latakia. The Latakia area is an Alawite and regime stronghold.

Israel isn’t confirming anything, but this would be the 5th time they’ve gone after these kinds of transfer points to prevent Assad from transferring weapons to Hizbullah in Lebanon.

10 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:00:21pm

Trick or treat… Yes I’m answering the door. Argle bargle.

11 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:02:49pm

I hear more…

12 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:02:59pm

Bwahahahaha!

13 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:04:36pm
14 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:05:40pm

Later, lizards.

15 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:05:42pm

Heh:

16 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:06:23pm

The morons I was talking to last night kept saying nothing Greenwald had reported had ever been proven wrong. I gave them numerous links to the original reports showing how bad his reporting was from the very beginning. They’re response: “THAT WAS MONTHS AGO!”

17 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:06:29pm

re: #15 lawhawk

That’s pinned up in the break room at work.

18 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:07:38pm

Was actually going to go lights out but decided it might be good for me.

19 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:08:06pm

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20 thedopefishlives  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:08:22pm

re: #10 Gus

Trick or treat… Yes I’m answering the door. Argle bargle.

Jackasses up the street have a mechanical spider that jumps at people when they come up to the door. At least 2 kids that were out when the Mrs. Fish, the fishspawn, and I were making the rounds came away without candy, screaming and crying. Ugh.

21 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:08:51pm

re: #18 Gus

It’s been slow here this year. Just three trick-or-treaters so far.

22 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:09:24pm

re: #16 Kragar

One could go back and look at every single article with his or Poitras’ byline and find glaring errors.

His assertions about what the NSA was doing were repeatedly overblown and amounted to hypothetical situations where the Constitution and FISC didn’t exist.

Or claimed that programs were brand new when they’d been known and reported upon years before.

Or claimed that the US was unique in how the NSA operates while every other country on the planet does, or attempts to do, what the US does.

Or claimed that the US shouldn’t be spying on allies and potential foes (which everyone does).

23 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:09:46pm

re: #21 jaunte

It’s been slow here this year. Just three trick-or-treaters so far.

Over a dozen here. Might quiet down soon.

24 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:10:42pm

re: #20 thedopefishlives

Jackasses up the street have a mechanical spider that jumps at people when they come up to the door. At least 2 kids that were out when the Mrs. Fish, the fishspawn, and I were making the rounds came away without candy, screaming and crying. Ugh.

No tricks here. Just my big head.

25 thedopefishlives  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:11:04pm

re: #23 Gus

Over a dozen here. Might quiet down soon.

The peak here is around 6:00 PM. Usually a few crews of up to a dozen trick-or-treaters at once, depending on the weather. A bit down this year because of rain, but not as much as the cold from 2 years ago. Still, the Mrs. Fish has lots of leftover chocolate, which makes her a very happy fishy.

26 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:12:23pm

re: #25 thedopefishlives

The peak here is around 6:00 PM. Usually a few crews of up to a dozen trick-or-treaters at once, depending on the weather. A bit down this year because of rain, but not as much as the cold from 2 years ago. Still, the Mrs. Fish has lots of leftover chocolate, which makes her a very happy fishy.

Only have enough for 9 kids left. 2 pieces of the smaller candies.

27 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:12:47pm


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28 thedopefishlives  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:13:25pm

re: #26 Gus

Only have enough for 9 kids left. 2 pieces of the smaller candies.

Our first time in this house, we ran dangerously low. We’ve been improving every year in the quantity department. One of these years, we’d like to go big and be “that house” that gives out the really good stuff.

29 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:15:12pm

re: #28 thedopefishlives

Our first time in this house, we ran dangerously low. We’ve been improving every year in the quantity department. One of these years, we’d like to go big and be “that house” that gives out the really good stuff.

Used to get tons of kids back in Ocean County during the late 70s. Kids, teenagers, etc.

30 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:15:18pm

The official hours are up here, but we’ll get a few more older kids—each year has been better recently. The stragglers can fight me for the last half of the last pumpkin bowl.

31 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:15:52pm

re: #21 jaunte

It’s been slow here this year. Just three trick-or-treaters so far.

We had 3 times the number of last year so far. The larder is full.

32 b.d.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:16:20pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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Ahhhh Kailua

33 thedopefishlives  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:18:20pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

The official hours are up here, but we’ll get a few more older kids—each year has been better recently. The stragglers can fight me for the last half of the last pumpkin bowl.

I’m not even sure what the town’s official hours are, if any. But I shut down the lights about half an hour ago, after the Mrs. Fish’s folks went home. They come out every year, laugh at our costumes, eat the snack food we prepare, and hand out candy while we take the fishspawn around.

34 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:20:28pm

re: #27 jaunte

This is why I’m glad my street is up on a hill. WOW. And some of those photos aren’t far from where I live, either.

35 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:21:57pm
36 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:22:02pm

Quiet now. Guess that’s about it.

37 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:22:03pm

re: #33 thedopefishlives

I’m not even sure what the town’s official hours are, if any. But I shut down the lights about half an hour ago, after the Mrs. Fish’s folks went home. They come out every year, laugh at our costumes, eat the snack food we prepare, and hand out candy while we take the fishspawn around.

Tomorrow I’ll walk the dog around the neighborhood and note the people who:
a) Didn’t light up/hand out, and
b) Followed the routine of taking garbage cans to the road for Fri.

38 freetoken  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:22:11pm

re: #21 jaunte

It’s been slow here this year. Just three trick-or-treaters so far.

I’ve not heard any around here.

I’m thinking that we are seeing a transition in our society. When I was young waayy back when our albeit poor neighborhood was full of us rug rats out begging for candy.

Now, decades later, with scare stories of razors, needles, drugs, and what not, pretty much the whole tradition has petered out, no?

39 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:22:14pm

If this year is like the last few, we might get a dozen, if that. All the kids head over to other neighborhoods.

40 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:22:57pm

Almost time to go back into argle bargle mode.

41 thedopefishlives  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:24:16pm

re: #39 Kragar

If this year is like the last few, we might get a dozen, if that. All the kids head over to other neighborhoods.

At my old neighborhood, I lived on a lake. Basically, all the trick-or-treaters came on a trailer pulled by a 4-wheeler and that was the end of it. This neighborhood seems to be a lot more popular; probably because it’s a lot more younger people with young kids.

42 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:24:34pm

All of the kids went to one of my neighbors who goes all out and makes a spooked graveyard.

43 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:24:54pm

re: #38 freetoken

There are still a few hot spots in my neighborhood with lots of trick-or- treaters, but on this street, most of the folks are grandparents and it looks like they turned the light off early and are in hiding. Kids roaming freely seems to be a custom in decline though.

44 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:25:45pm

re: #38 freetoken

I’ve not heard any around here.

I’m thinking that we are seeing a transition in our society. When I was young waayy back when our albeit poor neighborhood was full of us rug rats out begging for candy.

Now, decades later, with scare stories of razors, needles, drugs, and what not, pretty much the whole tradition has petered out, no?

We’re getting better since the nadir a few years ago when the preachers had everyone in their alternate ‘Hell Houses”. Probably had a hundred kids, mostly cruising with parents in small convoys. No one walks in this town.

45 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:33:16pm
46 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:34:26pm
47 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:35:27pm

re: #45 jaunte

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Halloween with Niles and Frasier.

48 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:41:41pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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Ah, scrolling through the old threads is a nice walk down memory lane. Haven’t done that in quite a while.

49 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:42:47pm
50 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:44:47pm

re: #48 Killgore Trout

Ah, scrolling through the old threads is a nice walk down memory lane. Haven’t done that in quite a while.

Huh, I kinda forgot how few from the old crew are still around but some people have changed nics. Still not many left.

51 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:03:51pm

I’m dressed like an IT professional…I think that’s scaring the kids as they come to the door more than the barking dogs do.

52 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:05:42pm

I knew I should have gone as Miley Cyrus on a wrecking ball.

53 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:07:44pm

re: #52 darthstar

OK, you naked on a wrecking ball is an image I didn’t need in my head.

54 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:08:46pm

After 9 local, shutting it down.

55 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:10:08pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

Huh, I kinda forgot how few from the old crew are still around but some people have changed nics. Still not many left.

What do you consider the old crew?

56 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:10:36pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

After 9 local, shutting it down.

Done here. Lazy mode engaged.

57 thedopefishlives  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:10:52pm

Night Lizardim. Happy Halloween to all. Have a restful weekend.

58 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:13:11pm

re: #49 Kragar

Self-Aware Google

President Sarah Palin

Cruz/GOHMERT! Ticket

Vegan Barbecue Restaurant

59 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:13:13pm

re: #55 b_sharp

What do you consider the old crew?

I was looking at the Greenwald threads from ‘06. Very few names still active. I think Mich-again is still around a bit.

60 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:16:20pm
61 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:17:20pm

Opens tiny Snickers bar… ‘Nite, all.

62 Political Atheist  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:17:42pm

re: #55 b_sharp

We are still noobs.

63 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:18:59pm
64 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:20:28pm
65 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:21:30pm

re: #64 jaunte

I like my raven on the side.

66 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:22:03pm

I tried to eat one once, but. Nevermore.

67 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:24:09pm

re: #66 jaunte

I tried to eat one once, but. Nevermore.

Goes great with some Amontillado.

68 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:24:48pm

re: #67 Kragar

Goes great with some Amontillado.

As long as you don’t have to be back to work right after supper.

69 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:25:35pm

Mitt Romney can suck my Irish dick.

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In the years since the Massachusetts health care law went into effect nothing has changed my view that a plan crafted to fit the unique circumstances of a single state should not be grafted onto the entire country. Beyond that, had President Obama actually learned the lessons of Massachusetts health care, millions of Americans would not lose the insurance they were promised they could keep, millions more would not see their premiums skyrocket, and the installation of the program would not have been a frustrating embarrassment. Health reform is best crafted by states with bipartisan support and input from its employers, as we did, without raising taxes, and by carefully phasing it in to avoid the type of disruptions we are seeing nationally.

70 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:26:00pm

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

OK, you naked on a wrecking ball is an image I didn’t need in my head.

Me naked on a wrecking ball is an image everyone needs in their head.

71 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:26:50pm

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72 calochortus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:27:10pm

re: #70 darthstar

Me naked on a wrecking ball is an image everyone needs in their head.

No. It is not.

73 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:27:55pm

re: #69 darthstar

by carefully phasing it in to avoid the type of disruptions we are seeing nationally

Maybe it went smoother in Mass because he wasn’t working against a bunch of crazy anarchists on the other side.

74 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:28:47pm

Oh 70s TV movies.

You and your crazy cabin at a lake in the mountains just outside San Diego, 1 hours drive away from downtown Los Angeles.

75 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:30:23pm
76 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:31:51pm
77 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:32:49pm

re: #62 Political Atheist

We are still noobs.

true.
I’ve been a regular here longer than any other blog/forum/newsgroup I’ve been a member of. I’ve been a member of t.o. since 2002 but I’m no longer a regular.

78 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:34:13pm

re: #70 darthstar

Me naked on a wrecking ball is an image everyone needs in their head.

Not in this life.

79 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:34:36pm

re: #62 Political Atheist

re: #77 b_sharp

GET OFF MY LAWN!

80 Stanley Sea  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:35:48pm

re: #71 darthstar

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Sad.

81 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:40:19pm

re: #75 jaunte

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It is said with considerable justification that Halloween is seen by teenage girls as an excuse to go out in their underwear.

82 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:41:05pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

It is said with considerable justification that Halloween is seen by teenage girls as an excuse to go out in their underwear.

I call that Tuesday.

83 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:42:38pm

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84 calochortus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:44:13pm

re: #83 darthstar

I guess the same applies to beer and wine?

85 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:45:21pm

re: #84 calochortus

I guess the same applies to beer and wine?

Beer is liquid bread.

86 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:46:58pm

re: #84 calochortus

I guess the same applies to beer and wine?

I only consume those on days ending in ‘y’.

87 calochortus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:50:33pm

re: #85 Kragar

Beer is liquid bread.

But it is made from plant material-seeds, basically, just like chocolate, which makes it salad.

88 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:52:44pm

re: #87 calochortus

But it is made from plant material-seeds, basically, just like chocolate, which makes it salad.

Which means it must be twice as healthy!

89 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:54:05pm

re: #79 Kragar

GET OFF MY LAWN!

Kids these days.

90 calochortus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:55:25pm

re: #88 Kragar

Which means it must be twice as healthy!

Undoubtedly. Just not quite as tasty as wine IMHO, though my husband has been doing yeoman work in persuading me otherwise. (He likes both equally.)

91 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:57:14pm

re: #62 Political Atheist

We are still noobs.

I am reminded of the concept in the ex-pat community in Japan: “Forever Gaijin” No matter how many decades you’re there or how fluent you are, you’ll always still be just another hairy barbarian “noob” to their culture. Very eye opening experience for a young white male …

92 dog philosopher  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 7:59:36pm

salats is made from leaves

deers eat leaves

beer is grain, therefore oatmeal, therefore breakfast

qed

93 calochortus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:01:10pm

re: #92 dog philosopher

Wine can still be fruit salad.

94 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:02:42pm

re: #84 calochortus

I guess the same applies to beer and wine?

Cocaine and heroin are also derived from plants. Not to mention the dreaded menace, Marihuana.

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95 dog philosopher  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:05:31pm

tea is a vegetable

the tea party is a party of vegetables

FACT

96 calochortus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:06:16pm

re: #94 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Cocaine and heroin are also derived from plants. Not to mention the dreaded menace, Marihuana.

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I’m not the one making the original statement, just sayin’ if chocolate is salad, so are many other things. And yes, the ‘dreaded marihuana’ is closer to salad than most.

97 chadu  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:08:33pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

It is said with considerable justification that Halloween is seen by teenage girls as an excuse to go out in their underwear.

Um, how many teenage girls do you interact with regularly?

Within the past year, my elder niece (15-16) was happy to go out wearing sweatpants with PINK blazoned across the ass, for no discernible reason.

98 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:20:02pm

We’re not seriously saying “Kids these days” now, are we?

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99 bubba zanetti  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:22:54pm

I didn’t get any teens or even tweens tonight. Just greedy four year olds.

100 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:28:36pm

So, do radios start playing Christmas carols at the stroke of midnight?

101 dog philosopher  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:29:22pm

re: #98 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

We’re not seriously saying “Kids these days” now, are we?

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‘kids’ to me at this age includes anybody under 28

102 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:31:34pm

re: #101 dog philosopher

‘kids’ to me at this age includes anybody under 28

Teenagers…

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103 calochortus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:36:46pm

Good night all. Happy Halloween.

104 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:40:32pm

re: #102 Kragar

Teenagers…

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Ah, beat me to it :D

105 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:45:51pm
106 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:46:13pm

And now, for the scariest most terrifying kids I’ve ever seen…

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107 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:47:13pm

Halloween trailer, 1978
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108 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:48:47pm

A friend of mine, I’ve talked about her before, is a wingnut. A real friend, not just a facebook “friend.” We’re talking about one of the smartest people I knew from my high school and college days, a Ph.D no less. But what makes it tragic instead of enraging is that she’s had some serious cognitive trauma, at least one tumor and a couple of brain surgeries. She’s come back rather well, considering, but I think during the most vulnerable recovery phases she was bombarded with non-stop financial conservative / selfish libertarian dumbshittery by her parents, family, a few “friends” and other caregivers. We’ve been out of touch for a long time but she wasn’t like this before, the change is just shocking.

Anyway today I got the old Obama executive order myth, mixed with a record size of government and a side of looming budgetary apocalypse.

I’m trying to be gentle and just provide unambiguously documented evidence addressing each misconception and outright falsehood, because this is someone who’s once formidable critical thinking ability has been palpably damaged, and she’s just repeating things she honestly believes because people she trusts have convinced her they’re true. So frustrating though seeing how the conservative lie machine cynically uses and manipulates the most vulnerable among us.

109 aagcobb  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:54:30pm

re: #106 Kragar

And now, for the scariest most terrifying kids I’ve ever seen…

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Is this a Hitler Youth brainwashing video?

110 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:55:26pm

The good news is I’ve been losing weight,

The bad news is all my pants keep falling the fuck down.

111 aagcobb  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:56:19pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

My brother’s been brainwashed by excessive exposure to toxic levels of Rush Limbaugh, and he doesn’t even have the excuse of brain damage.

112 aagcobb  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:56:48pm

re: #110 Kragar

The good news is I’ve been losing weight,

The bad news is all my pants keep falling the fuck down.

Time to buy new pants. And congratulations!

113 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:59:29pm

re: #112 aagcobb

Time to buy new pants. And congratulations!

YOU CAN’T MAKE ME BUY PANTS!

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114 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:01:01pm

re: #111 aagcobb

My brother’s been brainwashed by excessive exposure to toxic levels of Rush Limbaugh, and he doesn’t even have the excuse of brain damage.

My half brother too, dude’s a gigantic asshole. He is damaged though, epic level alcoholic and had an absolutely horrific, abusive childhood. Deck stacked against him from day one and he did nothing to avail himself of the educational assistance my Dad constantly offered him along the way. He only ever wanted cash.

115 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:02:22pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

How’s your Dad doing?

116 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:02:25pm

Kids are back from going out with their friends.

Closing up shop for trick or treaters.

And I’ve still got an unopened 3lb bag of heroin Smarties.

117 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:02:59pm

re: #110 Kragar

The good news is I’ve been losing weight,

The bad news is all my pants keep falling the fuck down.

I’m having this made into a banner for the local pediatric cancer hospice.

118 Aqua Obama  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:03:35pm

Santorum has driven away the demons once again

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119 aagcobb  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:04:10pm

re: #116 Kragar

Kids are back from going out with their friends.

Closing up shop for trick or treaters.

And I’ve still got an unopened 3lb bag of heroin Smarties.

Hope you aren’t diabetic.

120 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:06:57pm

re: #119 aagcobb

Hope you aren’t diabetic.

Not yet.
/

121 freetoken  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:07:50pm

re: #110 Kragar

The good news is I’ve been losing weight,

The bad news is all my pants keep falling the fuck down.

They’re called belts

122 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:07:59pm

re: #116 Kragar

Kids are back from going out with their friends.

Closing up shop for trick or treaters.

And I’ve still got an unopened 3lb bag of heroin Smarties.

That’s what I was giving out at the shop. I keep them in a jar with a label that says ‘Bicycle Fuel. Not recommended for sedentary lifestyles’. I don’t eat them myself. They aren’t chocolate.

123 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:09:39pm

re: #121 freetoken

They’re called belts

Got one, its too big.

124 freetoken  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:10:40pm

re: #123 Kragar

Hole punch.

125 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:13:13pm

Patrick Stewart in a bathtub wearing a lobster costume. Your argument is invalid:

126 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:14:17pm

re: #125 Lidane

Patrick Stewart in a bathtub wearing a lobster costume. Your argument is invalid:

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Another tragic transporter accident.

127 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:15:23pm

re: #125 Lidane

And they say money can’t buy happiness.

128 sagehen  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:18:24pm

re: #123 Kragar

Got one, its too big.

Are you hippie enough to be able to use a tie for a belt?

129 Kilroy01  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:19:05pm

re: #125 Lidane

The water isn’t hot enough..

130 Aqua Obama  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:21:26pm

Rob Ford’s lawyer is demanding the Toronto chief of police resign.

Amazing.

131 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:22:49pm

re: #130 Aqua Obama

Rob Ford’s lawyer is demanding the Toronto chief of police resign.

Amazing.

Congrats, Canada, you finally have a political scandal worth of D.C. Give yourselves a pat on the back.

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132 freetoken  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:30:49pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

Your story raises the interesting issue of personality and what makes a person the person they are.

As I get older and observe my older relatives, I see how as senility sets in (quickly or slowly) the personality can change. When people suffer strokes is the acute example of this, but even without a major stroke there are changes as people age.

What makes me me? The physical structure of the brain changes, decreases in capability due to illness. Repetitive actions get reflected in brain adaptations (e.g. Ballet dancers’ brains suppress signals to stop dizziness.)

The choices we make on what we repeat thus shape who we become, literally, as in the nature of our being.

This is not a new revelation - religious institutions intuitively work on this principle (which is why I propose the resistance of people, who have sat 30 years in a creationist pew, to the tested reality of evolution is an example of why more significant changes are needed wrt religion in our society). Usually misquoted and taken out of context:

For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:

and

Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

and

whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report … think on these things.

are favorite pulpit material. Catechisms etc., are all geared towards shaping the mind.

All these people filling their days with hate radio, wingnut scams, and the like are doing themselves real harm (not to mention what they are doing to other people.)

People change over time - that’s one of the themes picked up in everyone’s favorite TV show of past few years - Breaking Bad. Any drama or fictional story, if the characters are to be real people, reflect this idea.

It’s gracious of you to try and help your friend; perhaps your counter-programming is what she needs to find her way out of what I consider to be the bitter cul-de-sac American popularism.

133 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:33:13pm

re: #115 wrenchwench

How’s your Dad doing?

Gets out of the hospital tomorrow. He had the surgery over a week ago but he’s been there this long because he keeps going into atrial fibrillation. They think they’ve got that figure out now. I’ve decided not to renew my lease and stay with him for a few months. I’ve stopped taking new clients, gonna wind down and make recommendations for my remaining consulting contracts and freelance gigs, then the plan is to move back up to Seattle hopefully by early Spring next year. I’m getting really fucking sick of SoCal, and since my student loans are now paid off and I’m debt free it seems like a good time for a change.

134 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:39:03pm

re: #133 goddamnedfrank

Gets out of the hospital tomorrow. He had the surgery over a week ago but he’s been there this long because he keeps going into atrial fibrillation. They think they’ve got that figure out now. I’ve decided not to renew my lease and stay with him for a few months. I’ve stopped taking new clients, gonna wind down and make recommendations for my remaining consulting contracts and freelance gigs, then the plan is to move back up to Seattle hopefully by early Spring next year. I’m getting really fucking sick of SoCal, and since my student loans are now paid off and I’m debt free it seems like a good time for a change.

I hope that works out great for both of you!

135 piratedan  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:53:37pm

re: #133 goddamnedfrank

Gets out of the hospital tomorrow. He had the surgery over a week ago but he’s been there this long because he keeps going into atrial fibrillation. They think they’ve got that figure out now. I’ve decided not to renew my lease and stay with him for a few months. I’ve stopped taking new clients, gonna wind down and make recommendations for my remaining consulting contracts and freelance gigs, then the plan is to move back up to Seattle hopefully by early Spring next year. I’m getting really fucking sick of SoCal, and since my student loans are now paid off and I’m debt free it seems like a good time for a change.

hope that works out for you Frank (and your Dad), I’ve done the caregiver gig, tough duty but at least it sounds like your Dad has a chance of recovery and with that, maybe this will lead to other opportunities for you.

136 dell*nix  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:03:45pm

Yard decoration.

flickr.com

137 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:13:39pm

One Halloween regret tonight…we had a bowl full of different individually wrapped candies - kisses, milky ways, reeses cups, werthers…well, I had one 4 year old princess at the door who, when I randomly grabbed three candies and dropped them into her hand, wound up with three werthers butterscotch candies. As she was more focused on quantity over quality, she quickly turned and ran before I could give her a fourth candy of a different variety.

I just know her parents got home, and while having a glass of wine and doing an inventory of her haul, looked at each other and said, “What kind of asshole gives a four year old werthers?”

I feel so bad.

138 Single-handed sailor  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:19:37pm

OK, shamelessly stolen from somebody’s facebook…

zombie candy

and I have no idea how this wound up in the last thread on the first try, wtf.

139 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:20:23pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

That’s what I was giving out at the shop. I keep them in a jar with a label that says ‘Bicycle Fuel. Not recommended for sedentary lifestyles’. I don’t eat them myself. They aren’t chocolate.

I keep a jar of M&Ms on my desk at work. Labeled “Memory Pills” in Portuguese. Mix of peanut, peanut butter, and pretzel flavor - with some of the new dark chocolate peanut ones as well. Separate container has cocoanut M&Ms since they don’t play well with the other ones.

140 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:26:51pm

re: #139 Feline Fearless Leader

I keep a jar of M&Ms on my desk at work. Labeled “Memory Pills” in Portuguese. Mix of peanut, peanut butter, and pretzel flavor - with some of the new dark chocolate peanut ones as well. Separate container has cocoanut M&Ms since they don’t play well with the other ones.

I’m going to have to study the M&M aisle. I had no idea.

141 austin_blue  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:27:11pm

re: #27 jaunte

Yeah, as I posted last night, it was another rain bomb in Austin. Onion Creek, south of town, went from two feet on a USGS rain gauge to 40 feet in 90 minutes. Topped the previous flood level going back to 1889.

Pretty biblical. Several deaths. Wettest official October on record, here in town, but the reservoirs out west got squat.

142 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:41:07pm

It’s okay…it was an ugly Ferrari.

143 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:42:42pm

re: #142 darthstar

It’s okay…it was an ugly Ferrari.

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144 piratedan  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:51:39pm

re: #142 darthstar

It’s okay…it was an ugly Ferrari.

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145 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:52:15pm

My friend’s kid - dressed as “just a box”…there’s a lot of irony here…more than I care to explain.

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146 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:07:33pm

I watched a local interview with Amardeep Kalekahe when he announced he was running against Paul Ryan. He was making outlandish claims about selling Lake Michigan water to California and I knew right away he had no chance.

There’s this too.

Paul Ryan’s Democratic Opponent Is Alien Conspiracy Theorist, 9/11 Truther

When 35-year-old Amardeep Kaleka recently declared his intention to run for the Democratic nomination to challenge Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) in 2014, most news coverage focused on one facet of his story: His father was one of the murder victims of the 2012 massacre at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. That murder convinced Kaleka to run as a Democrat and advocate for enhanced gun control.

But during a recent interview with the Madison Capital Times, Kaleka, who is not the only Democrat looking to run against Ryan, revealed another side of his biography: conspiracy documentary filmmaker. Kaleka directed the 2013 film Sirius, a documentary that purports to uncover evidence of extraterrestrial life on Earth and suggests that the September 11 terrorist attacks were a “false flag” operation. Kaleka is also listed as editor and director of photography and shares credit for the documentary’s “story idea.” The film has slightly better production values than your typical conspiracy diatribe, but it hinges on some far-out concepts.

Hopefully these early observations will quickly deflate his run and Rob Zurban can get full support.

147 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:09:05pm

re: #142 darthstar

That’ll buff right out. No problem.

148 freetoken  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:11:56pm

re: #146 Amory Blaine

The local Democratic party here has the same problem - either it’s the entrenched establishment, like the now disgraced San Diego mayor, whose problems are ignored until it is too late, or in the those areas with the entrenched SoCon right (such as the Duncan Hunter territory) the looney (911 Truther types) nuts run as the (D) candidate.

It’s such a sad state of affairs, our political party.

Democracy has always been mostly a snow-job, a cover for how things are really done, but I have to believe that sooner or later the need to have a working government will out weigh the loony fantasies we chase to escape our daily drudge.

149 Aqua Obama  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:28:05pm

If you want some cheap laffs, check out this sound file of the Toronto mayor apparently debating a talk radio host under a false identity and immediately hanging up when they ask if he’s the mayor.

SoundCloud

150 freetoken  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:52:21pm

Is this progress?

Turkish women MPs wear Islamic veils in parliament for first time

Turkey’s parliament allowed female MPs to wear the Islamic veil for the first time yesterday, breaking an important taboo in the secular country.

[…]

Mr Erdogan, whose wife and daughter both wear headscarf, said that any opposition would show “disrespect to parliament and their faith”.

[…]

151 freetoken  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 12:00:17am

Is God punking America again?

Tom DeLay says he’s on divine mission

A month after a Texas appellate court overturned his conviction of corruption charges that ended his political career, former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay says he is on a mission from God.

DeLay, who accepted Christ during his first term in Congress in 1985 and became a member of Second Baptist Church in Houston, said Oct. 20 in a half-hour interview with Texas mega-church pastor John Hagee that America is ready for a constitutional revival.

“The way I see it is that Jesus died for our freedom, and Jesus destroyed Satan so that we could be free, and that is manifested in what is called the Constitution of the United States,” DeLay said.

“God created this nation and God created the Constitution,” he continued. “It is written on biblical principles, and the only way that we will ever see the light, in my opinion, is if we return to that one thing that unites almost every American, and that’s the Constitution.”

[…]

DeLay said his finest hour was not when he learned of his exoneration, but occurred this year on Aug. 4, when God revealed plans for the next chapter of his life during a plane ride returning from a mountaintop retreat in Oregon.

“I spent four hours on that plane in a conference call with the Lord, and he told me two things,” DeLay said. “He told me: ‘You’re coming out of the wilderness. You’re going to write a book. It’s going to be called Shut It Down,’ about constitutional revival.”

The second thing DeLay said God told him was “I have heard my people,” referring to Second Chronicles 7:14. “My awakening is beginning, and you’re going to be part of it.”

“I can’t tell you how that overwhelmed me,” DeLay said. “He’s chosen somebody that’s totally incapable, not worthy of call, but I just can’t wait.”

[…]

152 freetoken  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 12:01:55am

I wish God would make up her mind about which of these politicians are the ones who are supposed to save us.

153 Amory Blaine  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 12:53:04am

Common Core standards debate heats up over payments by John Birch group

The clamor over nationwide K-12 academic standards adopted by Wisconsin and discussed at four recent statewide hearings intensified this week with news that several out-of-state speakers critical of the standards received compensation through an arm of the conservative John Birch Society.

Leaders of the American Opinion Foundation, an independent nonprofit associated with the Wisconsin-based society, say they paid for about $5,500 worth of travel expenses for five Common Core State Standards critics to speak at the hearings in Fond du Lac, Eau Claire and Wausau this month. They said local citizens raised the money.

The latest select Assembly and Senate committees to re-examine the standards were spearheaded by Republicans, but many saw them as agenda-driven from the start because the highest-ranking education lawmakers in the state — Senate Education Chair Luther Olsen (R-Ripon) and Assembly Education Chair Steve Kestell (R-Elkhart Lake) — declined to participate.

One Milwaukee lawmaker resigned from the Assembly’s review panel this week, calling the hearing process “deeply biased.”

“I cannot in good conscience sit on a committee that has involved the most extreme national interest groups on education in planning and executing official Legislative hearings,” Rep. Christine Sinicki (D-Milwaukee) wrote in a resignation letter to chairmen of the Senate and Assembly Common Core review panels.

154 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 1:24:38am

Youtube Video

155 freetoken  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 1:31:40am

re: #153 Amory Blaine

We really ought not be surprised that the JBS is part of the money behind the anti-Common Core hysteria.

156 freetoken  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 1:36:43am

Unashamedly:

MP3 Audio

157 freetoken  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 1:44:58am

Imagine my surprise upon discovering that Michelle Malkin and PaleoPat appear to be copying each other’s headline style:

First Crony Michelle Obama’s Big Business Bonanza

The First Hustler Runs the Big Con


It’s almost as if they are being directed by the same choir-master.

158 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 2:00:33am

re: #146 Amory Blaine

1. Aliens do exist.
2. What a nutter.

159 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 2:01:09am

re: #153 Amory Blaine

Conservatives are all up in arms about Common Core standards because they sound too much like federally imposed standards, aka commie brainwashing. They don’t care much for International Baccalaureate programs, either, because it’s the Yoonited Nationz taking control of our children’s minds!!

Also, New Math, set theory, Venn diagrams, and real critical thinking (not the RWNJ version of critical thinking, which is throw a lot of pseudo-science at kids and let them decide whether professional scientists are right or wrong).

160 Amory Blaine  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 2:11:40am

I’m glad the ties are being made in the press. While I’m not surprised the JBS is involved, any exposure in the local press in welcome.

161 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 2:42:20am


Say what you want about Downey, but this is just sour grapes. This director is complaining that Downey got sober, got successful, and started on a better path in his life. Sounds like someone is pissed he wasn’t invited along for the ride.

162 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:25:38am

Would someone buy Anonymous a huge bunch of bananas?

iPhone 5s fingerprint scanner intended for NSA surveillance - Anonymous

“When Apple unveiled the iPhone 5s and its built-in fingerprint scanner you could almost feel conspiracy theorists around the world gearing up for an epic battle. There were a number of - mostly disreputable - claims around the web that Touch ID is not secure and that the information will be shared freely with the US government for the sake of surveillance. Now these privacy fears may be getting a boost from a somewhat more reliable source, Anonymous.

“While US government shut itself down and put 800,000 people temporarily out of work, the hacktivist group Anonymous released a video statement with an accompanying Pastebin document claiming that there are definitive links between AuthenTec, the company that developed the iPhone 5S’s fingerprint scanner, and the US government. A series of news articles and press releases draw a strong line between Touch ID and the US government surveillance.


Read more: voiceofrussia.com

Hahaha, Anonymous is a “somewhat more reliable source” than other conspiracy theory websites? “Somewhat more reliable” is just not that reassuring.

163 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:31:44am

We have turned a corner and now it’s November.

I have to buy all my grandkids presents for Hanukkah (which comes early this year, same time as Thanksgiving).

If I start now, I might just make it.

164 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:50:47am

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

Do you spread the goodies out day by day, or give them each one gift? My ex-MIL had 17 grandchildren. Buying Christmas gifts just about wore her out. I can imagine you’ll be even busier.

165 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:50:50am

I will never tell any kid to eat their food because of the starving Chinese.

Seeing is believing: IMAX to launch $250,000 home theatres in China

reuters.com

The greedy are no different in China than anywhere else.

166 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:53:52am

re: #164 wheat-dogghazi

Do you spread the goodies out day by day, or give them each one gift? My ex-MIL had 17 grandchildren. Buying Christmas gifts just about wore her out. I can imagine you’ll be even busier.

Hanukkah is 8 days, but only one day is designated for gifts, for us it’s 4th Light (because that’s my birthday!)

I give only one gift to each kid, and the older ones get cash. I love Amazon! I just have to coordinate this with my kids so I don’t end up sending them the same present that they got last year!

167 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:54:15am

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

We have turned a corner and now it’s November.

I have to buy all my grandkids presents for Hanukkah (which comes early this year, same time as Thanksgiving).

If I start now, I might just make it.

Could I interest you in some DreidelCare insurance?

168 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:56:24am

re: #164 wheat-dogghazi

Do you spread the goodies out day by day, or give them each one gift? My ex-MIL had 17 grandchildren. Buying Christmas gifts just about wore her out. I can imagine you’ll be even busier.

It’s one of the reason I feel very lucky at this time of the year—only 2 grandchildren and 2 great-grandchildren. My g-daughter wants another child, but that might not happen. With 2 more presents for my sons, that’s a total of 6 I buy (well, 7, since I buy my g-daughter’s hubby one).

If I had to buy presents for 14 like my own grandmother (sometimes they were bought by surrogates/parents), I’d go broke very quickly.

169 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:59:35am

re: #165 Justanotherhuman

I will never tell any kid to eat their food because of the starving Chinese.

Seeing is believing: IMAX to launch $250,000 home theatres in China

reuters.com

The greedy are no different in China than anywhere else.

China is fastest growing market for luxury goods. But there are lots of starving children in China still. Only the top levels of society are enjoying the fruits of China’s economic growth.

I learned some new Chinese phrases today that are fitting.

红二代 — hong erdai — offspring of China’s founders, like the current president, Xi Jinping. 红 = red. 二代 = second generation
富二代 — fu erdai — offspring of the very wealthy (aka spoiled rich kids: little emperors and empresses)
官二代 — guan erdai — offspring of government officials, who benefit financially from business deals

These are the people who buying those $250,000 home IMAX theaters.

170 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:04:33am

re: #169 wheat-dogghazi

China is fastest growing market for luxury goods. But there are lots of starving children in China still. Only the top levels of society are enjoying the fruits of China’s economic growth.

I learned some new Chinese phrases today that are fitting.

红二代 — hong erdai — offspring of China’s founders, like the current president, Xi Jinping. 红 = red. 二代 = second generation
管二代 — fu erdai — offspring of the very wealthy (aka spoiled rich kids: little emperors and empresses)
富二代 — guan erdai — offspring of government officials, who benefit financially from business deals

These are the people who buying those $250,000 home IMAX theaters.

Is there much of a working class mindset in China? Much of the emulation of the rich and famous as we see in the US? There is a class structure in spite of China’s official political position, just as we have a class system in the US which, with the erosion of the “middle class”, is becoming more obvious.

171 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:05:14am
172 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:14:04am

re: #169 wheat-dogghazi

China is fastest growing market for luxury goods. But there are lots of starving children in China still. Only the top levels of society are enjoying the fruits of China’s economic growth.

I learned some new Chinese phrases today that are fitting.

红二代 — hong erdai — offspring of China’s founders, like the current president, Xi Jinping. 红 = red. 二代 = second generation
管二代 — fu erdai — offspring of the very wealthy (aka spoiled rich kids: little emperors and empresses)
富二代 — guan erdai — offspring of government officials, who benefit financially from business deals

These are the people who buying those $250,000 home IMAX theaters.

Chinese customers prefer American luxury vehicles, like Cadillac and Lincoln, over Japanese and European cars.

173 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:16:10am

re: #170 Justanotherhuman

Is there much of a working class mindset in China? Much of the emulation of the rich and famous as we see in the US? There is a class structure in spite of China’s official political position, just as we have a class system in the US which, with the erosion of the “middle class”, is becoming more obvious.

It’s hard to make any parallels between China and the States. The working class in the USA has unemployment insurance, workman’s comp, AFDC, WIC, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid to fall back on when things go bad. There’s no such thing for the majority of people in China. The safety net of the elderly is their children and grandchildren. So, the working class in China is juggling several balls in the air at once: saving for a home, for a car, for their kid’s schooling (education is not free here), for their family’s medical care, and trying to save money for emergencies. They are well aware of the profligate spending of the leaders and business elite, and there is a lot of resentment.

At the same time, they want to be in those top economic levels. Some have tried their hands at being entrepreneurs. Most work ridiculously long hours six days a week to scrape up enough money for themselves and their families. The American work ethic pales in comparison.

As long as China’s economy keeps chugging along, and people have a glimmer of hope of social advancement, that resentment will not boil over into conflict. But we all worry what will happen if the economy goes bust and umemployment skyrockets.

174 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:19:05am

re: #172 Vicious Babushka

Chinese customers prefer American luxury vehicles, like Cadillac and Lincoln, over Japanese and European cars.

Not really. The must-have status symbols are Mercedes, BMW, Porsche, Range Rover, and Italian sports cars. Then comes the American brands, and then Japanese makes. China and Japan are not getting along well at the momen.

175 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:19:51am

re: #173 wheat-dogghazi

It’s hard to make any parallels between China and the States. The working class in the USA has unemployment insurance, workman’s comp, AFDC, WIC, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid to fall back on when things go bad. There’s no such thing for the majority of people in China. The safety net of the elderly is their children and grandchildren. So, the working class in China is juggling several balls in the air at once: saving for a home, for a car, for their kid’s schooling (education is not free here), for their family’s medical care, and trying to save money for emergencies. They are well aware of the profligate spending of the leaders and business elite, and there is a lot of resentment.

At the same time, they want to be in those top economic levels. Some have tried their hands at being entrepreneurs. Most work ridiculously long hours six days a week to scrape up enough money for themselves and their families. The American work ethic pales in comparison.

As long as China’s economy keeps chugging along, and people have a glimmer of hope of social advancement, that resentment will not boil over into conflict. But we all worry what will happen if the economy goes bust and umemployment skyrockets.

How is the govt juggling a “planned economy” for the masses, though, and “free enterprise” for the privileged few?

176 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:27:26am

re: #175 Justanotherhuman

How is the govt juggling a “planned economy” for the masses, though, and “free enterprise” for the privileged few?

A planned economy hasn’t been in vogue since the time of Zhou Enlai. Sure there are five-year plans, but the government doesn’t try to run the show as it did under Mao — disastrously, I might add. There are plans to develop the western part of China — now well under way — by improving infrastructure, transport and education. My region has benefited from the Western Development.

Local planning is rather a joke here. Developers announce grandiose plans of building housing developments and skyscrapers that either get scuttled because they didn’t consult bribe the right officials or get built and stand empty because no one can afford to occupy them.

177 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:33:53am

No one forced you to leave the US. Speaking the truth is not a crime, but stealing secret govt documents is. No one is “persecuting” you, so stop acting like a victim just because the plan you outlined with your cohorts didn’t go according to your wishes.

Edward Snowden’s self-serving letter on blank paper “To Whom It May Concern”:

www2.stroebele-online.de

Who’s the witness? Doesn’t look like Anatoly Kucherena, his FSB lawyer, but could be.

178 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:36:41am

And jeez, I mean Deng XiaoPing, not Zhou Enlai.

179 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:38:16am

re: #177 Justanotherhuman

No one forced you to leave the US. Speaking the truth is not a crime, but stealing secret govt documents is. No one is “persecuting” you, so stop acting like a victim just because the plan you outlined with your cohorts didn’t go according to your wishes.

Edward Snowden’s self-serving letter on blank paper “To Whom It May Concern”:

www2.stroebele-online.de

Who’s the witness? Doesn’t look like Anatoly Kucherena, his FSB lawyer, but could be.

Snowden was whining about being persecuted even before his passport was revoked.

180 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:39:54am

OK, so the Berlin “correspondent” for the Guardian is claiming the above letter “To Whom It May Concern” is directed to Angela Merkel from Snowjob. Really?


Is Poitras (and others) trying to get him out of Russia by appealing to the Germans?

181 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:41:23am

re: #180 Justanotherhuman

OK, so the Berlin “correspondent” for the Guardian is claiming the above letter “To Whom It May Concern” is directed to Angela Merkel from Snowjob. Really?

Is Poitras (and others) trying to get him out of Russia by appealing to the Germans?

Snowden is SO PISSED that he can’t get on Teh Internets. It must really suck to be him.

182 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:41:58am

This appears to be the genesis of that letter.

Germany may invite Edward Snowden as witness in NSA inquiry

Green politician meets US whistleblower in Moscow to discuss possibility of helping parliamentary investigation into US spying

theguardian.com

183 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:55:17am

re: #176 wheat-dogghazi

A planned economy hasn’t been in vogue since the time of Zhou Enlai. Sure there are five-year plans, but the government doesn’t try to run the show as it did under Mao — disastrously, I might add. There are plans to develop the western part of China — now well under way — by improving infrastructure, transport and education. My region has benefited from the Western Development.

Local planning is rather a joke here. Developers announce grandiose plans of building housing developments and skyscrapers that either get scuttled because they didn’t consult bribe the right officials or get built and stand empty because no one can afford to occupy them.

Yeah, observing both China and Russia practicing “market” economies is also a bit depressing, because in neither case has the common citizen benefited very much from it. I’m not naive enough to think there’s no bribery in the US, but it’s usually far more subtle and concealed, unless reports I’ve seen from China and Russia are just a pack of lies. I understand it’s pretty much a way of life in both places now.

I suppose the only way to truly experience it is up close and personal, although as a westerner, one’s own experience would be far different than a native of the country, I would imagine.

184 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:58:12am

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi

And jeez, I mean Deng XiaoPing, not Zhou Enlai.

Thank you for that correction, I was scratching my head before. :)

185 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:58:58am

re: #184 William Barnett-Lewis

Thank you for that correction, I was scratching my head before. :)

I suggest Head and Shoulders or Selsen Blue for that

186 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:02:40am

re: #146 Amory Blaine

I watched a local interview with Amardeep Kalekahe when he announced he was running against Paul Ryan. He was making outlandish claims about selling Lake Michigan water to California and I knew right away he had no chance.

There’s this too.

Paul Ryan’s Democratic Opponent Is Alien Conspiracy Theorist, 9/11 Truther

Hopefully these early observations will quickly deflate his run and Rob Zurban can get full support.

I actually hope the Democratic base is WI-1 embraces Mr. Kalekahe. Then Paul Ryan can cruise to victory.

Hey, some of you guys decided you likely the idea of David Barton successfully challenging John Cornyn. Turnabout is fair play.

187 ObserverArt  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:04:03am

re: #70 darthstar

Me naked on a wrecking ball is an image everyone needs in their head.

This would not be Republican approved.

/

188 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:08:18am

re: #183 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, observing both China and Russia practicing “market” economies is also a bit depressing, because in neither case has the common citizen benefited very much from it. I’m not naive enough to think there’s no bribery in the US, but it’s usually far more subtle and concealed, unless reports I’ve seen from China and Russia are just a pack of lies. I understand it’s pretty much a way of life in both places now.

I suppose the only way to truly experience it is up close and personal, although as a westerner, one’s own experience would be far different than a native of the country, I would imagine.

That’s just not true in China. Most people there still don’t live what we would consider “living well”, but nevertheless those working in jobs that feed the market economy do live substantially better than their parents and grandparents did 40 years ago. That’s not to say there isn’t cronyism, pollution, and poverty all over China, those problems are clearly there. But to say that the removal of many state controls hasn’t improved things substantially is quite wrong.

189 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:08:46am

Straining family resources like this is no way to run a country. Even if you work, you might not eat.

Families brace as billions in food stamp cuts set in

nbcnews.com

“Needy Americans who receive food stamps through the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program are expected to suffer an average loss of $36 a month from a $275.13 per household benefit. There are a near-record 47.6 million Americans, representing 23.1 million households, on the program. The cost of the program will hit $63.4 billion in 2013.”

$63B is a drop in the bucket to at least provide food to people to keep them healthy enough to survive day by day.

And most SNAP allotments don’t last all month, esp if you want to eat fresh fruits, vegetables, meat & fish, shopping around the perimeter of a supermarket and avoiding the inner aisles.

190 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:09:05am

re: #70 darthstar

If we survived Miley on a wrecking ball, and every imitator (pale and otherwise) since, I’m sure we can accommodate your “need.”

191 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:10:16am

The Empire State Building Halloween light show:

Youtube Video

192 Internet Tough Guy  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:13:11am
It’s hard to make any parallels between China and the States. The working class in the USA has unemployment insurance, workman’s comp, AFDC, WIC, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid to fall back on when things go bad. There’s no such thing for the majority of people in China. The safety net of the elderly is their children and grandchildren. So, the working class in China is juggling several balls in the air at once: saving for a home, for a car, for their kid’s schooling (education is not free here), for their family’s medical care, and trying to save money for emergencies. They are well aware of the profligate spending of the leaders and business elite, and there is a lot of resentment.

Worst communist party ever.

193 Ian G.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:14:13am

re: #191 lawhawk

I have a view of the building from my apartment, and watched it. They did a similiarly impressive light show for July 4th, as the fireworks were going off over the Hudson.

I really love that new lighting system they put in last year. For example, during the Superbowl, it was lit up red (for the 49ers) and purple (for the Ravens) and once Baltimore won, it went entirely purple and started pulsating.

194 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:14:48am

re: #192 Internet Tough Guy

Worst communist party ever.

In short, the Chinese are living the American Dream as defined by libertarians.

195 Ian G.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:15:46am

So the fiancee and I watched “Cabin in the Woods” last night. I was laughing the entire time. She, who has seen about 2 scary movies in her life, had the entire thing go over her head. I actually had to explain that the set-up the protagonists found themselves in was lifted directly from “The Evil Dead”.

196 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:17:41am

re: #192 Internet Tough Guy

Everyone’s equal. Just some are more equal than everyone else. /

197 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:17:50am

re: #195 Ian G.

So the fiancee and I watched “Cabin in the Woods” last night. I was laughing the entire time. She, who has seen about 2 scary movies in her life, had the entire thing go over her head. I actually had to explain that the set-up the protagonists found themselves in was lifted directly from “The Evil Dead”.

Thought about watching that last night on Netflix. But, once again, I went a Halloween without watching any horror movies. Even went through the trouble of recording the new version of the Evil Dead on my DVR and haven’t watched it yet.

198 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:18:42am

re: #186 Dark_Falcon

I actually hope the Democratic base is WI-1 embraces Mr. Kalekahe. Then Paul Ryan can cruise to victory.

Hey, some of you guys decided you likely the idea of David Barton successfully challenging John Cornyn. Turnabout is fair play.

It’s not a game, Dark. It’s really not a game. It’s something with real consequences for real people and the GOP is doing immense, perhaps irreparable damage to the United States. I’m really not sure we’re ever going to recover from the GOP’s anti-science crusade.

199 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:19:28am

re: #193 Ian G.

The new lighting system is a sight to behold. Definitely a huge step up from the old one - and it uses a fraction of the power that the old one did - and allows for a whole lot more flexibility in light displays.

I think we’ll see more of those kinds of light displays on other buildings around the city. Dueling lights between the ESB and Chrysler building or 1WTC… would be pretty neat (and reminiscent of the light shows in Hong Kong and elsewhere).

200 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:23:36am

Twitter. LOL.

201 Ian G.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:24:42am

re: #199 lawhawk

I doubt they alter anything on the Chrysler Building. However, the Bank of America Tower by Bryant Park sometimes does some light shows with its spire. It’s nothing like what we saw last night with the ESB, but I could see them upgrading what they do at that tower.

202 darthstar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:32:27am

Mornin’ everyone…here’s a nice pastoral Thomas Kinkade painting to soothe your eyes…WTF?

Image: kinkadewars-hed-2013_0.jpg

203 darthstar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:32:52am

More here
adweek.com

204 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:34:51am
205 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:37:04am

re: #204 Gus

“Follow” is an interesting choice of words and kind of creepy.

I follow horse E-books; it is my master.

206 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:39:31am

re: #188 Dark_Falcon

That’s just not true in China. Most people there still don’t live what we would consider “living well”, but nevertheless those working in jobs that feed the market economy do live substantially better than their parents and grandparents did 40 years ago. That’s not to say there isn’t cronyism, pollution, and poverty all over China, those problems are clearly there. But to say that the removal of many state controls hasn’t improved things substantially is quite wrong.

Many are doing better because China has transitioned from an agrarian economy to a full industrial one. It’s not simply removing state controls and expanding the market economy that has improved some lives.

I saw the same thing happen in the US, too, over much of my life. You look at the photos of the poor in the Great Depression era and they are more than likely to be from rural areas where sharecropping was an accepted practice, particularly in the south, or in urban areas where racism was still in effect. Even after WWII, a tour of NC would have revealed some extreme poverty and hardship in the rural and mountainous areas of NC after Federal programs were discontinued. Mill work was preferable to field work and brought many people out of poverty as consumerism was amped up after the rationing of WWII.

207 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:42:33am

re: #188 Dark_Falcon

That’s just not true in China. Most people there still don’t live what we would consider “living well”, but nevertheless those working in jobs that feed the market economy do live substantially better than their parents and grandparents did 40 years ago. That’s not to say there isn’t cronyism, pollution, and poverty all over China, those problems are clearly there. But to say that the removal of many state controls hasn’t improved things substantially is quite wrong.

In its defense, China has indeed made giant strides toward making life easier for the population. On the other hand, those at the top are skimming off money left and right, and investing it outside the country, while ensuring the common folk don’t have any recourse. Xi supposedly is trying to tackle corruption within the Party, but so far all he’s done is make some superficial gestures while clamping down on free expression on the Internet.

Upward mobility is sharply curtailed, because if you don’t know someone, or can’t bribe him enough, you are SOL. And, if you are from another part of China — even within the same province — you will rarely be considered for a job if a local person is available to fill it. Cronyism in China has been around for thousands of years, and they are very good at it. Boss Daley and Boss Tweed were amateurs by comparison.

208 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:44:02am

re: #192 Internet Tough Guy

Worst communist party ever.

The liquor sucks, and the snacks are even worse. No pizza, either.

209 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:45:45am

re: #208 wheat-dogghazi

The liquor sucks, and the snacks are even worse. No pizza, either.

Hard to get western booze unless you have connections?

210 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:46:44am

re: #205 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

“Follow” is an interesting choice of words and kind of creepy.

I follow horse E-books; it is my master.

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Right now I have that crap clogging up my TL with about 3 Tweets in view.

211 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:49:22am

re: #210 Gus

Right now I have that crap clogging up my TL with about 3 Tweets in view.

Use Tweetdeck.

212 darthstar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:49:59am

Maybe he was just standing his ground…they trick-or-treat different in Florida

213 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:51:11am

re: #209 Justanotherhuman

Hard to get western booze unless you have connections?

Not as hard as it used to be. You can buy it in some hypermarkets, for a pretty penny, and meanwhile hope it’s not imitation shit made with paint thinner or rubbing alcohol. I can get whisky, rum, vodka, Jack D, scotch and even tequila here, but the selection is limited. The bars charge exhorbitant prices for Western booze. I’m on a teacher’s salary, so I limit myself to Chinese beer unless someone else is buying.

Chinese booze, baijiu, ranges from exquisite and very expensive to industrial byproduct and very cheap.

214 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:52:40am

re: #211 Vicious Babushka

Use Tweetdeck.

Eventually. Perhaps. I’ll just troll on Twitter for now.

215 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:53:11am

re: #214 Gus

Eventually. Perhaps. I’ll just troll on Twitter for now.

It’s not a big deal. There is a web version of Tweetdeck.

216 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:53:19am

re: #212 darthstar

Maybe he was just standing his ground…they trick-or-treat different in Florida

staining the ground, maybe

217 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:54:19am

re: #213 wheat-dogghazi

Chinese booze, baijiu, ranges from exquisite and very expensive to industrial byproduct and very cheap.

Gutter booze? (Byproduct of gutter oil)

218 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:55:25am

re: #215 Vicious Babushka

It’s not a big deal. There is a web version of Tweetdeck.

OK. Right now I’m feeling like Butters before hapanoa.

219 darthstar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:58:56am

re: #218 Gus

OK. Right now I’m feeling like Butters before hapanoa.

You’ve got that old man yelling at cloud thing going pretty well…on to the next windmill!

220 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:59:58am

Cripes. Now two tattooed wrestlers.

221 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:00:21am

re: #219 darthstar

You’ve got that old man yelling at cloud thing going pretty well…on to the next windmill!

Hey. I’d rather do that than be some yes man in Office Space.

222 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:02:24am

re: #217 Vicious Babushka

Gutter booze? (Byproduct of gutter oil)

Some of it for me is just undrinkable, with a nasty aftertaste that reminds me of the smell of lab chemicals. The really primo stuff, which apparently you have to have connections to buy, is smooth and a bit sweet — and about 100 proof. So, you can drink a lot before you realize you already drank too much about two shots earlier.

China’s drinking culture is very different from America’s. Here, it is a matter of honor and hospitality for men (mostly) to toast each other over dinner, and “kanbei!” means “bottoms up!” so by the end of a long dinner you may have downed several shots of 100-120 proof booze. Drinking outside meals is not as common, although bars are becoming ever more popular.

223 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:03:55am

Top 10 Chinese Beers You Should Try

chinawhisper.com

Ad disguised as Comment:
Yunnan Guy says:
August 27, 2013 at 10:43 am

If you really want to try some good Chinese beer, head down to beautiful Dali Old Town in China’s southwestern Yunnan province and pop into the Bad Monkey. Best beer I ever had in China, hands down… Even gives my native California craft breweries a run for their money, if you ask me!

Hint: It’s run by 2 English guys who make craft beer, burgers, pizza and stuff, so really doesn’t qualify as “Chinese”. badmonkeybar.com

224 darthstar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:04:14am

re: #221 Gus

Hey. I’d rather do that than be some yes man in Office Space.

Yes, man.

re: #220 Gus

Cripes. Now two tattooed wrestlers.

You do know these images are based on your search history./

225 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:04:55am

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226 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:20:50am

Guess everybody’s now in sugar comas from yesterday.

227 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:22:05am

re: #181 Vicious Babushka

The Siberian gulag Internet connection is still dial-up, I think. //

228 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:22:26am

Twitter has morphed into a Highlands Ranch mall.

229 aagcobb  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:23:01am

re: #189 Justanotherhuman

Straining family resources like this is no way to run a country. Even if you work, you might not eat.

Families brace as billions in food stamp cuts set in

nbcnews.com

“Needy Americans who receive food stamps through the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program are expected to suffer an average loss of $36 a month from a $275.13 per household benefit. There are a near-record 47.6 million Americans, representing 23.1 million households, on the program. The cost of the program will hit $63.4 billion in 2013.”

$63B is a drop in the bucket to at least provide food to people to keep them healthy enough to survive day by day.

And most SNAP allotments don’t last all month, esp if you want to eat fresh fruits, vegetables, meat & fish, shopping around the perimeter of a supermarket and avoiding the inner aisles.

Then they just need to sell their Cadillacs for food!

230 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:23:38am

re: #226 Targetpractice

I avoided the worst of it. I didn’t buy candy for the kiddies because I assumed I would get home too late from work and would end up eating most of it. Afraid there might be a deluge of left-over candy from fellow workers today, though.

231 Internet Tough Guy  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:25:16am
Some of it for me is just undrinkable, with a nasty aftertaste that reminds me of the smell of lab chemicals.

Hangs up phone with Chinese Tourism Bureau

232 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:25:46am

DERP OF THE DAY:

233 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:26:08am

The dark side of cannabis?

Hundreds of cannabis workers fall ill in Albanian village

uk.reuters.com

(Reuters) - Doctors in Albania say hundreds of people have fallen ill from harvesting cannabis in a lawless region that for years has been out of bounds to police, Albanian media reported on Friday.

“The hospital in the southern city of Gjirokaster said a total of 700 have sought treatment since June for the effects of planting, harvesting, pressing and packing the cannabis in the village of Lazarat.

“In the last two months about seven to eight people arrive in the emergency ward each day and many more have come earlier with disorders from hashish,” Gjirokaster doctor Hysni Lluka told Top Channel television.”

234 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:26:16am

re: #230 Bulworth

I avoided the worst of it. I didn’t buy candy for the kiddies because I assumed I would get home too late from work and would end up eating most of it. Afraid there might be a deluge of left-over candy from fellow workers today, though.

We made out pretty well. Only ended up with one full bag this year out of the four we bought.

235 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:26:23am

Notice FORCED Vaccination on the list of “atrocities”

236 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:28:46am


Surprise! Nothing new. But don’t tell the Max Blumenthal morons.

237 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:28:53am

re: #232 Vicious Babushka

I’m still waiting for the FEMA deathcamp trailers to kick in.

238 aagcobb  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:29:14am

re: #235 Vicious Babushka

Notice FORCED Vaccination on the list of “atrocities”

Forced vaccination is why she’s retarded now./

239 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:29:44am

The Clintons on Halloween:

240 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:29:59am

The GOP attempting to hype the fact that people are losing their crappy insurance currently and expanded opportunities to get better insurance that in some instances will be far cheaper shows the depths to which they’ll go to play craven politics with the public.

Another way? Have everyone ignore that their solution to Medicare and Medicaid is to …. turn it into a larger form of Obamacare.


We know the outrage Republicans are expressing on behalf of people receiving cancellation notices from their individual market insurance plans is phony because it’s obviously phony. They don’t have any particular interest in ameliorating this phenomenon short of repealing or destroying the rest of the law. And its effectiveness as a talking point hinges on never acknowledging that Obamacare has helped anybody.

But the most revealing tell, identified here by the New Republic’s Jonathan Cohn, is that all of the healthcare reform plans Republicans support would disrupt the insurance market much more dramatically than the Affordable Care Act does. Republicans can’t achieve consensus on a plan to replace Obamacare, but they all basically agree that very few people should be allowed to keep the insurance plans they have right now.

Jonathan explains how almost all GOP plans would kick millions of people off of Medicaid, and inflict adverse selection on the employer-sponsored insurance market by creating a huge incentive for healthy workers to abandon their group plans for individual ones. The ensuing death spiral would result in more cancellation notices and “rate shock” than we’re seeing now by an order of magnitude, but without the safety net of the Affordable Care Act’s exchanges to catch people.

The National Review’s Ramesh Ponnuru’s solution to this problem is to rip the band-aid off slowly. Whereas Obamacare creates an immediate disruption for a relatively small group of individual policyholders, Republicans should create a slow, steady disruption for tens of millions more.

Other smart conservatives — which is to say, policy wonks without much cachet on Capitol Hill — would replace all insurance with subsidized catastrophic coverage and tax-preferred health savings accounts. Nobody with private insurance or Medicaid would get to keep what they have, no matter how much they like it.

They want to destroy the health care insurance delivery system as we know - and not for the better. They’d actually inflict far more harm on people, and the health care delivery system, than anything that is underway in the ACA implementation.

But that’s all part of the GOP plan. Expect people to not understand the complexities of the health insurance debate and make people think that they’re getting screwed by the Democrats who are providing access to better insurance at a reasonable price (in part through subsidies for those making up to 400% of the poverty level).

241 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:30:07am

re: #235 Vicious Babushka

Making men get pregnant and have maternity care is pretty tyrannical, too. //

242 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:30:35am

re: #232 Vicious Babushka

DERP OF THE DAY:

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Numerous nations across the globe have some form of universal health care, but they keep invoking Nazi Germany. My surprise, etc.

243 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:30:58am

re: #232 Vicious Babushka

DERP OF THE DAY:

Cause and effect — how do they fucking work?

244 aagcobb  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:31:07am

re: #237 Bulworth

I’m still waiting for the FEMA deathcamp trailers to kick in.

You’ll know your wait is over when Obama’s civilian army of illegal immigrants come to take you to your trailer, where you will be married to your same-sex partner, forcibly vaccinated and given your Obamacare abortion. Bwahahahahaha!

245 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:31:09am

re: #242 Targetpractice

Numerous nations across the globe have some form of universal health care, but they keep invoking Nazi Germany. My surprise, etc.

Nazi Germany did not even have universal health care.

246 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:31:25am

re: #239 Vicious Babushka

The Clintons on Halloween:

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No comment.

247 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:32:54am

di kele is even MOAR BATSHIT than Prudence.

248 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:36:01am

re: #245 Vicious Babushka

Nazi Germany did not even have universal health care.

Indeed, but don’t tell the wingnuts, it would crush them. Just like they keep insisting that the Nazis that imposed gun control, and not the Weimar gov’t that the Nazis replaced.

249 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:36:54am

re: #223 Justanotherhuman

Top 10 Chinese Beers You Should Try

chinawhisper.com

Ad disguised as Comment:
Yunnan Guy says:
August 27, 2013 at 10:43 am

If you really want to try some good Chinese beer, head down to beautiful Dali Old Town in China’s southwestern Yunnan province and pop into the Bad Monkey. Best beer I ever had in China, hands down… Even gives my native California craft breweries a run for their money, if you ask me!

Hint: It’s run by 2 English guys who make craft beer, burgers, pizza and stuff, so really doesn’t qualify as “Chinese”. badmonkeybar.com

Chinese beer and grape wine is not bad, in fact. Most beers are lagers, and go down easily. The French set up vineyards years ago, and now Chinese reds are quite drinkable - -ranging from vin ordinaire to vintage quality. Whites are in short supply, for some reason, and more expensive.

250 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:39:48am

re: #240 lawhawk

The GOP attempting to hype the fact that people are losing their crappy insurance currently and expanded opportunities to get better insurance that in some instances will be far cheaper shows the depths to which they’ll go to play craven politics with the public.

Another way? Have everyone ignore that their solution to Medicare and Medicaid is to …. turn it into a larger form of Obamacare.

[Embedded content]

They want to destroy the health care insurance delivery system as we know - and not for the better. They’d actually inflict far more harm on people, and the health care delivery system, than anything that is underway in the ACA implementation.

But that’s all part of the GOP plan. Expect people to not understand the complexities of the health insurance debate and make people think that they’re getting screwed by the Democrats who are providing access to better insurance at a reasonable price (in part through subsidies for those making up to 400% of the poverty level).

The GOP has no alternative to offer because the ACA was their idea in the first place. Hell, Ryan put out a GOP “alternative” in ‘09 that broadly mirrored key points of the ACA, with insurance exchanges, coverage for pre-existing conditions, and subsidies in the form of tax credits. In the current political environment, the GOP won’t put out an alternative because the TPers refuse to consider anything besides bigger giveaways to the insurance companies, while the establishment can’t think up a plan that still relies on the “free market” without cribbing from the ACA.

251 ObserverArt  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:41:25am

Did anyone happen to have Morning Joke on this morning. I had it on in the background and I could have sworn I heard ScaredBorough call himself a libertarian. Did anyone catch that?

I would argue that asshole would be a better political designation.

How long has that show been going? I swear I don’t know how Mika puts up with Joke. How does she keep herself from slapping him sometimes the way he treats her and the guests?

It can be entertaining in a strange black comedy way…I sure don’t take it series. I use it to see what the tone of the political discourse is going to for the day. Gotta get those talking points in so I know what’s coming.

252 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:49:14am

ICYMI

In late 2011, a team of Obama’s campaign strategists conducted polling and convened focus groups to explore the political potency of installing Clinton as his running mate, according to “Double Down,” a book about the campaign by journalists Mark Halperin and John Heilemann.

(snip)

The book is a narrative reconstruction of the behind-the-scenes machinations of the campaigns of Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney. It details Romney’s search for a vice-presidential nominee. “Project Goldfish,” as his vetting team called its operation, was so secretive that researchers referred to the five finalists by aquatic names — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (Pufferfish), former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty (Lakefish), Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio (Filet-O-Fish), Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida (Pescado) and Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin (Fishconsin).

If we had known about these fish names Romney would totally have won.

253 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:51:23am

re: #252 Bulworth

ICYMI

(snip)

If we had known about these fish names Romney would totally have won.

It’s so cute, the illusion that Romney ever really had a choice in his running mate. The man was gonna get a wingnut on the bottom of the ticket, the question was just how disconnected from reality they were going to be.

254 Mattand  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:52:58am

re: #251 ObserverArt

Did anyone happen to have Morning Joke on this morning. I had it on in the background and I could have sworn I heard ScaredBorough call himself a libertarian. Did anyone catch that?

I would argue that asshole would be a better political designation.

How long has that show been going? I swear I don’t know how Mika puts up with Joke. How does she keep herself from slapping him sometimes the way he treats her and the guests?

It can be entertaining in a strange black comedy way…I sure don’t take it series. I use it to see what the tone of the political discourse is going to for the day. Gotta get those talking points in so I know what’s coming.

Not surprising. I’ve seen it firsthand. The Republicans I know that are hip to the fact their party is fucking insane, almost as a unconscious defensive reflex, become “independent” or “libertarian”. Almost overnight.

They know what a toxic sludge the party is swimming in, but can’t bring themselves to openly admit it. You see it around here every so often.

Bill Maher had a woman on his last show who pulled that shit. He just laughed in her face and commented on the sudden influx of “independents” on his show.

I actually kind of admire the few Republicans here who admit their political leanings. I’m amazed at some of the superhuman cognizant dissonance they employ to justify their views, but at least they’re honest about it.

255 Ian G.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:56:39am

re: #236 Gus

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Surprise! Nothing new. But don’t tell the Max Blumenthal morons.

Apparently the Saudis are throwing a hissy fit over potential detente with Iran too. I have to imagine that oil interests who are good buddies with the House of Saud will do what they can to undermine any thawing of our relationship with Iran.

You think the Likud Party doesn’t like Iran? That’s nothing compared with how the Saudis view them.

256 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:57:56am

re: #254 Mattand

Stop. Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see. Are you a Republican, a Democrat or something else?

I’m a Republican. No, I’m an indep —- aaiiieee!

257 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 7:58:01am

ICYMI, Volume XXVI

In an explosive report on CBS’s “60 Minutes” on Sunday, the British supervisor of local security guards protecting the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on the night of Sept. 11, 2012, provided a harrowing account of the extremist attack that killed four Americans.

The man whom CBS called Morgan Jones, a pseudonym, described racing to the Benghazi compound while the attack was underway, scaling a 12-foot wall and downing an extremist with the butt end of a rifle as he tried in vain to rescue the besieged Americans.

The “60 Minutes” broadcast, in which Jones also recounted his clandestine visit that night to a Benghazi hospital to view the body of slain U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, helped propel a new round of partisan conflict this week over the attack.

Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.) and other Republican lawmakers referred to it repeatedly during a Wednesday news conference. Graham said he would block confirmation of all of President Obama’s nominees, including Jeh Johnson as homeland security secretary and Janet L. Yellen as head of the Federal Reserve, until the administration allowed government witnesses to the attack to appear before Congress.

But in a written account that Jones, whose real name was confirmed as Dylan Davies by several officials who worked with him in Benghazi, provided to his employer three days after the attack, he told a different story of his experiences that night.

Between its Benghazi!!!!! and ACA trolling, CBS News has been in rare form of late.

258 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:00:24am

re: #254 Mattand

Not surprising. I’ve seen it firsthand. The Republicans I know that are hip to the fact their party is fucking insane, almost as a unconscious defensive reflex, become “independent” or “libertarian”. Almost overnight.

They know what a toxic sludge the party is swimming in, but can’t bring themselves to openly admit it

You see it around here every so often. Bill Maher had a woman on his last show who pulled that shit. He just laughed in her face and commented on the sudden influx of “independents” on his show.

I actually kind of admire the few Republicans here who admit their political leanings. I’m amazed at some of the superhuman cognizant dissonance they employ to justify their views, but at least they’re honest about it.

Yeah, that’s the phenomenon I’ve seen regularly since ‘09 as well, the ranks of Republicans who dutifully voted twice for Bush now declaring how they’re “independents” or even “libertarians,” while they still pimp for the GOP. They might as well walk around with sandwich boards saying “I don’t want to be held responsible for my bullshit!”

259 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:05:14am

Seems the misinformation campaign isn’t working for the GOP:

Poll: More Americans Want To Keep Or Expand Obamacare Than Repeal It

The Kaiser Family Foundation found that 47 percent of Americans want to expand (22 percent) or keep the law (25 percent). Conversely, 37 percent said they wanted to either repeal the law and replace it with some Republican alternative (13 percent) or repeal it without replacing it (24 percent).

That’s despite the fact that more Americans have an unfavorable view of the law (44 percent) than a favorable view (38 percent), according to Kaiser.

260 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:09:09am

re: #256 wheat-dogghazi

Stop. Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see. Are you a Republican, a Democrat or something else?

I’m a Republican. No, I’m an indep —- aaiiieee!

I’m ok…I have a shrubbery…

261 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:10:09am
262 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:10:32am

Jon Stewart to media idiots who think that the President has lost him:

Youtube Video

Spoiler

Go f$%k yourselves!

263 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:22:11am

Right wing HC ideas kill me. The thing now is catastrophic + HSA for everyone. But then you run the numbers and see the govt saves money by incentivizing preventive care and diagnostics and women’s health, so you make those cheeper or free; and people with chronic issues and the poor will need more help for non-catastrphic care cost. ANd you wonder if the system really needs to pay 20% of costs that go to admin and earnings for private companies for not adding much in free market benefits. Before you know you just talked your way into a single payer system.

264 Ed E. Lishus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:24:53am

re: #257 Bulworth

But in a written account that Jones, whose real name was confirmed as Dylan Davies by several officials who worked with him in Benghazi, provided to his employer three days after the attack, he told a different story of his experiences that night.

So this new “explosive” report relies on testimony Davies gives that directly contradicts the written account he gave within the first week of the attack, and 60 Minutes doesn’t see a problem here? Better journalism please.

265 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:27:14am
266 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:28:10am

re: #264 Ed E. Lishus

So this new “explosive” report relies on testimony Davies gives that directly contradicts the written account he gave within the first week of the attack, and 60 Minutes doesn’t see a problem here? Better journalism please.

On the face of it, it seems like he is trying for the Jack Bauer hero-saves-the-day role, rather than the by-the-book operative role for a movie playing in his head.

267 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:28:58am

Another dork threatening an FBI agent. Good plan. Yeah, threatening an FBI agent will get you in big, big trouble. Actually, threatening anyone will do that. An FBI agent just adds to the double-plus naive fun.

268 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:31:15am


Finally a good pic on my TL.

269 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:34:23am
270 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:34:59am

re: #263 Jocko’s Rocket Ship

Right wing HC ideas kill me. The thing now is catastrophic + HSA for everyone. But then you run the numbers and see the govt saves money by incentivizing preventive care and diagnostics and women’s health, so you make those cheeper or free; and people with chronic issues and the poor will need more help for non-catastrphic care cost. ANd you wonder if the system really needs to pay 20% of costs that go to admin and earnings for private companies for not adding much in free market benefits. Before you know you just talked your way into a single payer system.

HSAs are supposed to be their appeal to younger, healthier Americans by suggesting that you get to keep the money in the HSA at the end of the year that doesn’t go towards paying for medical care. Problem is that the money A) can’t be used for anything else and B) gets blown through quickly if you get sick. Any system that is designed to market health care to healthy people is ultimately going to fail, because the purpose of health care is to take care of sick people.

271 geoffm33  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:46:34am
272 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:46:47am

RWNJ ANALOGY FAIL:
Let’s see we have:
Vehicle Registration
Driver’s Licenses
Highway Patrol
Traffic Laws
Driver’s Ed
Car Insurance
Seat Belts
Air Bags
Brakes

273 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:47:30am

re: #271 geoffm33

Look how the poor terrified kitteh is trying to back away slowly from Teh Michele Bachmann.

274 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:47:33am

re: #271 geoffm33

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Poor thing is saying “Get this damn bow off my head!!”

275 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:48:43am

re: #271 geoffm33

Why does that kitten have the same bug-eyed look that Bachmann does? /things that make you go Hmmmmmm…

276 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:50:18am

re: #272 Vicious Babushka

RWNJ ANALOGY FAIL:
Let’s see we have:
Vehicle Registration
Driver’s Licenses
Highway Patrol
Traffic Laws
Driver’s Ed
Car Insurance
Seat Belts
Air Bags
Brakes

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And all the things that the right and libertarians have sought to block regulations on: insurance, seat belts, air bags, anti-lock brakes, stability control, speed limits, DUI/DWI, etc. All of which, when taken together have improved public safety tremendously.

277 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:50:19am

re: #271 geoffm33

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Oh noz! I just RT’d that. :D

278 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:53:20am

re: #270 Targetpractice

And what are you supposed to do early in the year when little or no money has accumulated? And what if, no matter what, the amount in the HSA doesn’t equal what you owe?

279 geoffm33  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:53:20am

re: #274 Targetpractice

Poor thing is saying “Get this damn bow off my head me out of this batshit crazy ladies TL!!”

280 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:54:05am

re: #276 lawhawk

Libertarianism/true conservatism has never failed, has only been failed. //

281 bubba zanetti  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:54:34am

re: #272 Vicious Babushka

I guess this person didn’t bother to google “car ban”.

282 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:56:34am

re: #278 Bulworth

And what are you supposed to do early in the year when little or no money has accumulated? And what if, no matter what, the amount in the HSA doesn’t equal what you owe?

They promise that the money will carry over, but if you have serious medical bills one year and can’t work the next, what good is that HSA? Not to mention that, under the present tax code, you only get the tax breaks associated with an HSA if you have a high-deductible plan, meaning you might clean out the HSA and your bank account before the health insurance kicks in, if it kicks in.

283 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:56:44am

re: #272 Vicious Babushka

RWNJ ANALOGY FAIL:
Let’s see we have:
Vehicle Registration
Driver’s Licenses
Highway Patrol
Traffic Laws
Driver’s Ed
Car Insurance
Seat Belts
Air Bags
Brakes

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Some of Nader’s best work. That ended there of course. :D

284 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 8:58:13am

re: #186 Dark_Falcon

True, but we aren’t silly enough to nominate that nutter.
You guys are.
Funny, that.
;)

285 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:00:09am
286 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:05:10am
287 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:06:08am

re: #199 lawhawk

The new lighting system is a sight to behold. Definitely a huge step up from the old one - and it uses a fraction of the power that the old one did - and allows for a whole lot more flexibility in light displays.

I think we’ll see more of those kinds of light displays on other buildings around the city. Dueling lights between the ESB and Chrysler building or 1WTC… would be pretty neat (and reminiscent of the light shows in Hong Kong and elsewhere).

Can they get the buildings inbetween involved and set up a borough-wide Pong game?

288 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:06:44am

Edward Snowden is working for the Russian Facebook

theverge.com

Aren’t they the first ones who offered him a job? No doubt the FSB had to get everything lined up…

289 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:08:45am

re: #287 Feline Fearless Leader

Can they get the buildings inbetween involved and set up a borough-wide Pong game?

Pong? Why not Tetris?

290 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:10:41am

It’s morning. I’m awake.

You?

291 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:10:54am
292 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:11:54am

re: #286 Gus

Mark Halperin and John Heilemann?

Yeah, there are a couple of objective reporters.

Publish or perish, boys.

293 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:12:59am

Started reading (listening) to The Clockwork Universe. It is non-fiction that fits nicely with Neal Stephenson’s Baroque series novels. And a few other’s I’ve read in the last few years about the era (Connie Willis comes to mind).

Anyway, the author does a good job of describing that era’s religious way of thinking AND the Whackos of today.

294 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:14:24am

DERP

295 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:15:21am

re: #294 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Existed millions of years before civilized man, but who’s keeping score.

//

296 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:15:48am

re: #295 Targetpractice

Existed millions of years before civilized man, but who’s keeping score.

//

Oops.

297 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:17:10am

re: #294 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Yeah…
So…
It’s a tad bit older than 6000 years…
Kind of throws a wrench in your gears there, Bryan.

298 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:17:28am

re: #295 Targetpractice

Existed millions of years before civilized man, but who’s keeping score.

//

6000 years in G-d’s time.

///

299 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:17:55am

re: #297 Varek Raith

Yeah…
So…
It’s a tad bit older than 6000 years…
Kind of throws a wrench in your gears there, Bryan.

Carbon-dating is a tool of the Devil!!

300 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:18:42am

re: #294 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Wait now. I thought science was BAD.

301 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:18:45am

We need a Jurassic Park.
Send the creationists there to feed the scary animals their veggies.
/

302 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:18:53am

re: #298 FemNaziBitch

6000 years in G-d’s time.

///

Or 42,000 years in D-g’s time. //

303 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:19:02am

re: #294 Vicious Babushka

Confirmed. FACT.

What happens when science doesn’t confirm the Bible?

304 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:19:20am

re: #301 Varek Raith

We need a Jurassic Park.
Send the creationists there to feed the scary animals their veggies.
/

Or the creationist version: Jurassic Ark.

305 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:19:22am

And the problem with that is…?

306 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:20:21am

re: #305 Vicious Babushka

Umm, isn’t that kind of the same as covering a construction worker for a broken hand or a dancer for a sprained ankle?

308 piratedan  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:22:01am

re: #305 Vicious Babushka

And the problem with that is…?

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well, Bryan’s just making sure that he keeps his slut shaming cred up to date

309 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:22:43am

re: #305 Vicious Babushka

And the problem with that is…?

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Under the ACA pastors who hurt themselves in private jet accidents are also covered.

310 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:24:32am

Atlanta man shatters coast-to-coast ‘Cannonball Run’ speed record
Manhattan to LA in 28 hours, 50 minutes and about 30 seconds.

311 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:25:17am

My Mental Age is 40

312 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:25:35am
313 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:25:50am

re: #305 Vicious Babushka

And the problem with that is…?

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Good Bryan, then your wife won’t have to worry.

314 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:26:24am

Hallmark under fire for ornament that replaces “Gay” in iconic Christmas lyric

Hallmark customers are not at all pleased that the greeting card company dropped the original “don we now our gay apparel” lyric in favor of “fun” for a new ugly holiday sweater Christmas ornament.

Facebook commentators took up arms against the company’s switch on Hallmark’s page, writing that Hallmark shouldn’t have changed the lyrics in the spirit of being politically correct — and besides, “gay” isn’t a dirty word, said others.

315 piratedan  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:28:04am

re: #314 Eclectic Cyborg

Hallmark under fire for ornament that replaces “Gay” in iconic Christmas lyric

I would have gone with “fabulous” instead of gay, but then again, I obviously watch waaay too much TV //////

316 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:28:43am

Bacterial Meningitis in Michigan.
wnem.com

317 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:29:38am

re: #305 Vicious Babushka

I’m sorry Bryan Fischer missed the healthcare debates of 2010…..

318 geoffm33  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:30:03am

re: #309 b.d.

Under the ACA pastors who hurt themselves in private jet accidents are also covered.

Under the ACA, pastors that contract STD’s from prostitutes are also covered.

319 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:30:28am

re: #311 FemNaziBitch

My Mental Age is 40

My mental age is 34.

Groovy, that’s the Bee’s Knees!

320 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:30:59am

re: #318 geoffm33

Under the ACA, pastors that contract STD’s from prostitutes are also covered.

Wonderful point.

321 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:31:33am

bbl

322 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:32:27am

re: #309 b.d.

Under the ACA pastors who hurt themselves in private jet accidents are also covered.

Pastors who suffer from rectal-cranial inversions will not be turned away; mental health coverage is included in ACA policies.

323 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:33:42am

re: #311 FemNaziBitch

My Mental Age is 40

41

324 bubba zanetti  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:35:15am

re: #318 geoffm33

Did I miss the part where people buying individual policies are specifically exempted from STD treatments if they’re in the sex trade? I don’t remember seeing that as a box on the sign-up form.

325 geoffm33  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:35:30am

re: #320 b.d.

Wonderful point.

On the flipside, prostitutes that contract STD’s from pastors are likewise covered. And that brings us full circle.

326 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:35:52am

Little mini-flounce going on here.

327 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:37:17am

re: #319 b.d.

My mental age is 34.

Groovy, that’s the Bee’s Knees!

45 here.

328 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:37:41am

VK pages on Snowjob

vk.com

vk.com

vk.com

vk.com

None appear to be his personal page.

329 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:38:02am
330 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:38:08am

re: #311 FemNaziBitch

My Mental Age is 40

46 for me. And most of the questions did not have an answer that came close to my opinion.

331 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:38:47am

DERP

332 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:38:47am

re: #330 Feline Fearless Leader

46 for me. And most of the questions did not have an answer that came close to my opinion.

Same.

333 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:39:24am

re: #330 Feline Fearless Leader

46 for me. And most of the questions did not have an answer that came close to my opinion.

Same here. Saying the President looks old ignores that the office tends to age you 4-5 years for every year you serve.

334 darthstar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:39:40am
335 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:39:44am

re: #329 Gus

Right. Because the US going to overlook stealing classified documents.

336 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:40:43am

Personally I find the “religious” Christmas music much less aesthetically offensive than “Jingle Bells” barked by dogs or sung “Jazz style.”

337 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:40:44am

re: #331 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Which is why every new year starts on Dec 25th.

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338 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:40:50am

re: #329 Gus

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C’mon home Snowie, if you can, everything is forgiven!

339 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:40:52am

Developing situation at LAX:

340 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:41:40am

I don’t mind Christmas music of most any kind. Likely because I never overdosed on any of it.

341 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:41:47am

re: #311 FemNaziBitch

35.

must have been the party & pub questions…

342 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:42:46am
343 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:43:23am

re: #340 Gus

I don’t mind Christmas music of most any kind. Likely because I never overdosed on any of it.

I fucking hate “Jingle Bells.”

344 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:43:41am

And I fucking hate “Jingle Bell Rock.”

345 darthstar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:44:00am

re: #319 b.d.

My mental age is 34.

Groovy, that’s the Bee’s Knees!

42 - as if.

346 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:44:02am

I like Bill. I like Hilary. And Chelsea. But if I’m hearing this sh$t in 2015 and 2016 I’m going to overturn all of the tables and chairs:

In Kentucky, where Democrat Alison Lundergan Grimes is challenging Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R), (Bill) Clinton recorded a video endorsing Grimes in which he says the nation needs more political leaders “willing to work together across the lines of party, geography and philosophy.”

“We have simply got to have more people who are willing to reach across the aisle and say, ‘I’m ready to work with you to build a better future,’ ” Clinton said.

In his Virginia speeches, Clinton said that he learned through eight years as president and 12 years as Arkansas governor that it’s important to advocate for your own philosophy but a mistake to not consider your opponent’s.

“When you’ve got a complicated set of problems with a lot of moving parts — and even Albert Einstein couldn’t give you the right answer to every question — the only thing that works is cooperation,” Clinton said Sunday in Dale City.

Principled compromise, Clinton asserted later that evening in Hampton, Va., is “a moral position.”

“It simply recognizes that nobody’s right all the time, your life is as important as mine, your opinion is entitled to the same respect mine is, and we’re all in this together, so we might as well work together to row this boat and go somewhere,” Clinton said.

347 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:44:06am

“[S]hooting at Terminal 3 at LAX Airport.”

348 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:44:23am

re: #344 Vicious Babushka

And I fucking hate “Jingle Bell Rock.”

:D

349 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:44:56am

If I have one gripe about Christmas music, it’s that they insist on playing it earlier and earlier every fucking year and will switch entire radio station programming schedules over to it.

350 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:45:07am
351 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:45:55am

re: #340 Gus

I don’t mind Christmas music of most any kind. Likely because I never overdosed on any of it.

Four years in radio pretty much killed holiday music for me. I can only listen to it in small doses now.

352 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:46:01am

re: #350 Gus

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Hasn’t LAX been the site of several dry ice bombs already?

353 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:46:04am

re: #329 Gus

The gulag must be getting rough.

354 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:46:29am

re: #349 Targetpractice

If I have one gripe about Christmas music, it’s that they insist on playing it earlier and earlier every fucking year and will switch entire radio station programming schedules over to it.

Well, when the entire programming goes to 24/7 Christmas music it’s because they’re giving all the affiliate employees the day off. I don’t have a problem with that.

355 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:46:36am

re: #340 Gus

I don’t mind Christmas music of most any kind. Likely because I never overdosed on any of it.

I worked retail during Christmas from 1999-2009. As a result, I for the most part don’t like Christmas music. I’ll tolerate it, but often only barely.

356 ausador  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:46:52am

re: #311 FemNaziBitch

My Mental Age is 40

43 here…good to know my mental age isn’t lagging behind my actual one by all, err…that much.

357 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:47:57am

Marshall’s plays shitty music in their stores all year long, but when the holidays roll around (earlier and earlier) they turn the volume and the crappiness up to 11.

358 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:50:04am

re: #334 darthstar

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Snowden said he would like to testify before the U.S. Congress about National Security Agency surveillance and may be willing to help German officials investigate alleged U.S. spying in Germany, Hans-Christian Stroebele, a lawmaker with Germany’s opposition Greens, told a press conference.

But Snowden indicated in the letter that neither would happen unless the U.S. dropped its espionage charges

[dudebro] Hey fascist USA. drop charges against Snowden or he won’t rat you out to the Germans! [/dudebro]

359 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:50:13am

re: #346 Bulworth

I like Bill. I like Hilary. And Chelsea. But if I’m hearing this sh$t in 2015 and 2016 I’m going to overturn all of the tables and chairs:

It’s Bill Clinton, this what he does. He talks about compromise but is also a master at placing distance between the Clintons and other politicians when he thinks that expedient. And he may think it would be best for Hilliary Clinton to put some distance between herself and Barack Obama.

360 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:50:33am

re: #343 Vicious Babushka

I fucking hate “Jingle Bells.”

DOGS BARKING JINGLE BELLS!!!!!

361 Flounder  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:50:36am

re: #311 FemNaziBitch

39, thankyou, it’s good that I can read another language.

362 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:50:46am
363 erik_t  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:51:18am

What the fuck useful information could some sniveling IT dipshit offer in testimony to the US Congress?

Holy ego, Batman.

364 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:51:24am

Iron Hands Legion Squad

Me gusta.

Image: ihsquadp5.jpg

365 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:51:33am

re: #311 FemNaziBitch

My Mental Age is 40

Mine is 29. I’m not sure if that’s good or bad. Heh.

366 Flounder  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:52:02am

heh, wanker

367 Ian G.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:52:29am

re: #336 Vicious Babushka

Personally I find the “religious” Christmas music much less aesthetically offensive than “Jingle Bells” barked by dogs or sung “Jazz style.”

Amen. I’m an atheist who would rather hear “O Holy Night” 100 times than hear “Rockin’ Around the Christmas tree” once.

368 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:52:53am

[Starts up chainsaw…]

369 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:53:33am

re: #363 erik_t

What the fuck useful information could some sniveling IT dipshit offer in testimony to the US Congress?

Holy ego, Batman.

The idiom “pig in a poke” applies here.

370 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:53:50am

The only rock Christmas song I like is Billy Squire’s one.

371 AlexRogan  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:55:27am

re: #339 lawhawk

Developing situation at LAX:

[Embedded content]

If Tory Belleci (as in MythBusters) says he heard gunshots at LAX, it’s pretty much a lock; guns and explosions are sort of his stock-in-trade.

372 Ian G.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:56:05am

re: #311 FemNaziBitch

My Mental Age is 40

I’m mentally 42. Ugh. I’m actually 33, and must look younger since I still occasionally get carded in bars.

373 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:56:09am

I would be open to talking about limited immunity for Snowden if he tells us his timeline and the level of involvement of others in his plan.

semi//

374 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:56:56am

Well, we know where Fischer got his morning talking points:

375 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:57:06am
376 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:58:13am

re: #358 b.d.

Snowden said he would like to testify before the U.S. Congress about National Security Agency surveillance

Then he’ll conclude his remarks by saying “Old IT people don’t die, they just faid away”, to cheers and ticker-tape parades in NYC. ///

377 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:58:15am

“Wow, it’s like a real life NCIS: Los Angeles!” //

378 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:58:30am

re: #374 lawhawk

And not without a bit of irony in that these women will have to pay for their health care unless subsidies kick in, and if the IRS thinks that they’re misrepresenting their income, they’d be subject to penalties (but not the usual ones since the ACA gave no teeth to the IRS penalty provisions to enforce the IM).

379 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:58:53am

re: #373 b.d.

I would be open to talking about limited immunity for Snowden if he tells us his timeline and the level of involvement of others in his plan.

semi//

Offer a plea bargain in exchange for the names of any accomplices and agreement to testify against them in court. No agreement, no deal.

380 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:59:05am

re: #374 lawhawk

This is going to dash PBO’s re-election efforts.

381 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:59:36am

I don’t even run Iron Hands, but I might need to get this:

Image: Ferrusbw3.jpg

Just beautiful work.

For a sense of perspective, the head is maybe as big as a pencil eraser.

382 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 9:59:52am

re: #374 lawhawk

Let’s make this go VIRAL!! Retweet to repeal Obummercare!!

383 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:00:20am

re: #370 Kragar

The only rock Christmas song I like is Billy Squire’s one.

Only one rock Christmas song I can stand:

Youtube Video

384 erik_t  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:00:43am

re: #379 Targetpractice

Offer a plea bargain in exchange for the names of any accomplices and agreement to testify against them in court. No agreement, no deal.

Note that’s a plea, not immunity.

Maybe let him re-enter free society in, oh, five or ten years.

385 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:00:45am

re: #383 Targetpractice

The Kinks’ Father Christmas is pretty cool.

386 ausador  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:01:07am

re: #372 Ian G.

I’m mentally 42. Ugh. I’m actually 33, and must look younger since I still occasionally get carded in bars.

Nothing wrong with being mature for your age, besides the available answers mostly sucked, how many reflected your actual preference?

387 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:01:48am

I like my prostitutes to have a raspy cough and a few open sores

388 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:01:51am

re: #384 erik_t

Note that’s a plea, not immunity.

Maybe let him re-enter free society in, oh, five or ten years.

Which is why he’d likely reject it, because he wants to believe he’s above the law.

389 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:02:01am

re: #330 Feline Fearless Leader

46 for me. And most of the questions did not have an answer that came close to my opinion.

44. You’re right about the answers. : )

390 darthstar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:03:11am
391 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:03:22am
392 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:03:39am

“Hey, we know we totally fucked your time schedule up with the special project, and we’re stripping the help we promised you, but we still need you to start everything by COB today.”

Fuckers.

393 darthstar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:04:07am

re: #362 Gus

Why is it when I see a story like this, I have to go to the link to see if I might know the person.

394 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:04:57am

re: #391 Gus

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Disgruntled employee?

395 piratedan  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:05:44am

re: #392 Kragar

“Hey, we know we totally fucked your time schedule up with the special project, and we’re stripping the help we promised you, but we still need you to start everything by COB today.”

Fuckers.

I hope that none of those administrative bravos have felt compelled to leave early this week (although I wouldn’t be surprised if their offices were emptied by 1630)

396 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:07:19am

More Republicans pandering to League of the South

397 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:07:21am

re: #383 Targetpractice

I’m kinda partial to this one:

Youtube Video

398 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:08:24am

re: #395 piratedan

I hope that none of those administrative bravos have felt compelled to leave early this week (although I wouldn’t be surprised if their offices were emptied by 1630)

“If there are any problems, you can reach me on my cell.”

399 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:08:29am
400 leftynyc  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:09:46am

re: #356 ausador

43 here…good to know my mental age isn’t lagging behind my actual one by all, err…that much.

Mental age 48 - real age 52

401 erik_t  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:09:53am

I wonder how we’re going to modify the security theater to make people feel safe after this one. God knows there isn’t a way to keep people from congregating, and we’re not actually going to tighten gun regulations or anything.

402 erik_t  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:10:25am

Certainly we’re going to see some incredible idiots harrumphing about another shooting that has happened in an ostensibly gun-free zone.

403 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:10:30am

re: #394 Targetpractice

Disgruntled employee?

No word yet.

404 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:11:00am
405 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:11:30am

re: #404 Lidane

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Uh huh.

406 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:11:36am

re: #396 Kragar

More Republicans pandering to League of the South

That’s mighty white of them.

407 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:12:00am

Swanson: Halloween Comes From Noah’s Flood

408 piratedan  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:12:08am

re: #398 Kragar

“If there are any problems, you can reach me on my cell.”

there are times like that, and I’ve faced similar deadlines, that I wish I had the balls to stand up and say… well I’m sorry, no more coding/testing can be done until I get a bonus up front in a cashier’s check…if not, well then feel free to sit down and code it yourself.

409 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:12:27am

re: #400 leftynyc

Mental age 48 - real age 52

Mental age 44; real age 72.

I think the assumption is that you get more conservative as you age.

I just hope people have more knowledge and discernment.

410 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:12:53am

We are all 40 something now. //

411 piratedan  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:12:58am

re: #404 Lidane

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maybe if God had wanted those people saved, he wouldn’t have brought on the flood to begin with?

412 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:13:47am

re: #407 Kragar

Swanson: Halloween Comes From Noah’s Flood

WTF?

413 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:13:59am

Huh, Alex Jones is running late.

414 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:14:04am
415 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:14:24am

I thought it was “All Saint’s Eve” a Christian holiday. But I’m just a Juice so what do I know?

416 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:14:56am

re: #311 FemNaziBitch

Your mental age is
44

Lol.

417 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:15:19am

re: #411 piratedan

maybe if God had wanted those people saved, he wouldn’t have brought on the flood to begin with?

If you read the old Testament objectively, the only logical conclusion is that God is one evil dick.

418 kirkspencer  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:15:49am

re: #400 leftynyc

Mental age 48 - real age 52

Real age 53. Mental age 35. And agree about them not having my answer on a number of questions.

419 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:16:15am
420 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:16:44am

re: #416 Varek Raith

Your mental age is
44

Lol.

Real age 29.
Must’ve been me not giving a hoot about the iphones and twitters.

421 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:16:52am

Mental age 41.

Basically the whole thing boils down to:

There are kids playing on your lawn. Do you:

1. go out and join them?

2. ignore them?

3. offer them candy?

4. turn on the sprinklers?

5. shake your fist and yell, “Get off my lawn!”

422 ausador  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:17:11am
Transportation Security Administration agent and a suspect were wounded in a shooting at Los Angeles International Airport on Friday morning, sources told the Los Angeles Times.

Law enforcement officers were flooding the airport, authorities said, and terminals 2 and 3 were evacuated.

Tory Belleci of the television show Mythbusters tweeted: “Heard gun shots then everyone starting running for the door. Not sure if anyone was hurt. #LAX.”

TV footage showed dozens of officers swarming the airport. Images also showed a law enforcement officer being treated by paramedics. He appeared to be alert. Another officer had a bloody hand.
L.A. Times

Possibly (hopefully) not that bad an incident?

423 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:17:49am
424 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:17:55am

re: #421 GeneJockey

Mental age 41.

Basically the whole thing boils down to:

There are kids playing on your lawn. Do you:

1. go out and join them?

2. ignore them?

3. offer them candy?

4. turn on the sprinklers?

5. shake your fist and yell, “Get off my lawn!”

Smithers, let loose the hounds.

425 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:18:34am

re: #423 Gus

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“Ban all nuclear weapons or have a nice doomsday”
:D

426 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:19:40am
427 Varek Raith  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:19:59am

re: #426 Gus

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Oh geez.

428 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:21:10am

re: #417 Kragar

If you read the old Testament objectively, the only logical conclusion is that God is one evil dick.

Image: 355.jpg

429 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:21:24am

re: #425 Varek Raith

“Ban all nuclear weapons or have a nice doomsday”
:D

You know, life is simpler when the choices are stark.

Like, “Deny health insurance to tens of millions or face Eugenics, Holocaust II, and The End Of America.”

Or “Bomb Iran or die in the nuclear Armageddon.”

430 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:21:27am

re: #400 leftynyc

Mental age 48 - real age 52

Mental age 42 real 58

I refuse to grow up.

431 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:22:00am

re: #426 Gus

@AndreaMiller’s timeline suggests shooter might have been dressed in normal clothes and not camo.

432 ObserverArt  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:22:00am

Well, well, well…look at what I found doing a bit of searching on Morning Joke’s Joke Scarborough.

Joe Scarborough QUIET DIVORCE
… After 12-Year Marriage

Joe Scarborough — host of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” — quietly divorced his wife of 12 years back in January … TMZ has learned.

The 50-year-old former Florida congressman filed the divorce docs in Connecticut back in September 2012 … seeking to end his marriage to Susan Waren, a former aide to FL Gov. Jeb Bush. The two were married in 2001.

The former couple have 2 minor children together — a 10-year-old and a 5-year-old.

There have been rumors for years that Scarborough has a thing for his “Morning Joe” co-host Mika Brzezinski (who is married btw). And the sexual tension between the two is so apparent, they addressed it during a media event in 2009 … denying having any sort of romantic feelings for each other.

Why does this not surprise me? And, he was divorced from his first wife too, back in 1999.

Oh, those good old Republican Family Values and Protection of Marriage.

I’ve increasingly thought he was a bit of a dick. I’m thinking now he is.

Regarding the LA Airport shootings…getting very tired of this happening weekly now. Next it will be daily. This is getting to the point where the backlash on guns is going to be coming and it will be huge.

If the damn NRA and other gun organizations don’t start doing something politically, the majority of America will. And it will not be pretty for gun political organizations.

433 Ian G.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:23:01am

re: #423 Gus

Wait, what protest is that? Are those Iranian flags?

434 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:23:15am

My mental age is 39. :)

435 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:23:26am

re: #409 Justanotherhuman

Mental age 44; real age 72.

I think the assumption is that you get more conservative as you age.

I just hope people have more knowledge and discernment.

Your online age is much lower than 72. I thought you were closer to my age.

436 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:23:30am

re: #431 lawhawk

@AndreaMiller’s timeline suggests shooter might have been dressed in normal clothes and not camo.

[Embedded content]

Yeah. It’s the usual reporting in situations like this. We watch. We read. We wait.

437 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:23:31am

re: #394 Targetpractice

Disgruntled employee?

No! FFS, how many times do we have to tell you idiot dhimmi wannabes that when they don’t say who the shooter is, then it’s code for Muslims. The Islamofacist supremacists are inflicting more of their Sharia on us at the behest of their Kenyan MB-loving leader, Obama. —Geller & Spencer

438 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:24:41am

re: #415 Vicious Babushka

I thought it was “All Saint’s Eve” a Christian holiday. But I’m just a Juice so what do I know?

I think Halloween is a Druidic / Pagan celebration that may have been usurped by Christians.

439 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:25:27am

re: #433 Ian G.

Wait, what protest is that? Are those Iranian flags?

Looks like it. Could be a “no war with Iran” thing over nukes as well.

440 kirkspencer  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:25:58am

re: #381 Kragar

I don’t even run Iron Hands, but I might need to get this:

Image: Ferrusbw3.jpg

Just beautiful work.

For a sense of perspective, the head is maybe as big as a pencil eraser.

IIRC, GW uses a mid-grade SLS type 3d printer for its master-work now — one of the reasons it’s even more overbearing about ‘in the style of’ models for 3d printing. (BTW, if that goes to court GW will lose. You can copyright a model, you can’t copyright a style - not in the US and not in the UK. But they figure if they yell enough and threaten high dollar amounts they won’t have to go to court, and so far it’s worked for everyone but torrent sources. // )

441 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:26:47am
442 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:26:55am
443 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:27:11am

re: #415 Vicious Babushka

Pagans corrupted with Harry Potter wizardry War on All Saints Day!!!

444 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:27:52am

re: #418 kirkspencer

Real age 53. Mental age 35. And agree about them not having my answer on a number of questions.

It’s hardly a scientific questionnaire.

445 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:29:44am

re: #438 b_sharp

I think Halloween is a Druidic / Pagan celebration that may have been usurped by Christians.

Same goes for Easter and Christmas, IIRC.

446 ausador  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:32:43am

The live footage reporting is saying that they have two suspects in custody, one of them wounded. They are also reporting three other people wounded.

Given the typical early misstatements and fabricated “eyewitness” accounts that usually follow these events there is no telling what is actually going on yet. Or if the second “suspect” even exists and if he does if he actually had anything to do with the assault.

Police are currently searching the terminal for explosives that the suspect(s) might have left.

447 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:33:48am

re: #445 Lidane

Same goes for Easter and Christmas, IIRC.

Heh, yeah, IIRC eggs, bunnies, Santa, and pine trees have precious little to do with the story of Jesus’ (a.s.) birth or resurrection.

448 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:35:52am

re: #374 lawhawk

Well, we know where Fischer got his morning talking points:

[Embedded content]

Signing prostitutes up for Obamacare might actually save money in the long run. Less spread of disease and fewer unwanted pregnancies, and thus fewer abortions. Not a bad idea, though the event wasn’t something I’d attend, far too lewd you know.

449 Mattand  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:39:44am

re: #409 Justanotherhuman

Mental age 44; real age 72.

I think the assumption is that you get more conservative as you age.

I just hope people have more knowledge and discernment.

Mental age 37, actual age 47.

I do not know what this mean. I’m slightly less middle aged?

450 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:50:57am

re: #415 Vicious Babushka

I thought it was “All Saint’s Eve” a Christian holiday. But I’m just a Juice so what do I know?

All Saint’s - Nov 1 since 835 AD - is in fact a Christian attempt at using the old holiday of Samhain, the old Celtic night of the dead traditionally celebrated on Oct 31. Halloween is a memory of those old beliefs of a night when the two worlds were closest together and the dead could cross back for the night.

It was not a good thing.

Bonfires and Jack o’ Lanterns were to keep the ghosts away.

But as the centuries have past, we now have kids getting candy.

I suspect the Celts would prefer our version to what they believed.

451 darthstar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 11:19:44am

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