Donald Trump Says Obama Committed the Biggest Crime in US History, but He Doesn’t Feel Like Telling You What It Was

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I just want to direct your attention to one moment from today’s bizarre clown show on the White House lawn, as Donald Trump answers a question from Washington Post reporter Philip Rucker, who wants to know exactly what crime Trump is accusing President Obama of committing.

So no crime, then.

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Interesting Times  May 11, 2020 • 4:45:03pm

Speaking of baseless charges…

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The Pie Overlord!  May 11, 2020 • 4:45:44pm
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I am that guy  May 11, 2020 • 4:47:01pm

I know the answer to this one….

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A Three Hour Tour  May 11, 2020 • 4:47:21pm

Obama’s crime is a seeeeecret In fact, if Trump told us, he’d have to kill us even more than he is right now.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 4:48:09pm

re: #334 plansbandc

I don’t plan to use a public bathroom until there’s a vaccine or effective treatment. I’d rather pee behind a bush. Way safer.

I’m in trouble.

“Home of Arbor Day”

No bushes.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 11, 2020 • 4:53:05pm
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Belafon  May 11, 2020 • 4:54:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 4:54:55pm

re: #325 Joe Bacon 🌹

Would be nice if the DC Press Corpse stood up to Trump, told him to fuck off and walked out on him.

Can’t. Their corporate overlords need access.

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Belafon  May 11, 2020 • 4:56:03pm
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jaunte  May 11, 2020 • 4:57:24pm

re: #9 Belafon

I’m sticking with the massive urinal concept.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 4:57:47pm

re: #7 Belafon

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I am that guy  May 11, 2020 • 4:57:54pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You pull over, walk to the fence and act as if you are watching something……

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PhillyPretzel  May 11, 2020 • 4:59:02pm

re: #9 Belafon

It should be a run-down convenience store.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 4:59:57pm

re: #12 Omar Comin’ Yo

You pull over, walk to the fence and act as if you are watching something……

Or turn out on a dirt road and go about a half a mile.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  May 11, 2020 • 5:02:27pm

re: #14 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Or turn out on a dirt road and go about a half a mile.

I can’t think of this without hearing LBJ’s drawl, “She had to pee on the side of the road, like a dawg … “

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Belafon  May 11, 2020 • 5:02:30pm

If I could buy masks from this company I would, not only because of blocking Trump, but for the workers’ sacrifices.

President Trump was pushing to get out in the public eye in recent weeks and tout his leadership during the pandemic, and White House staff thought they had hit on the ideal event: a presidential visit to thank the Pennsylvania factory workers who had recently taken herculean steps to ramp up U.S. supplies of protective equipment.

Workers had received national attention after dozens of them lived for 28 days inside their factory so they could ensure they were virus-free and their production was not contaminated or disrupted by illness.

White House officials pressed to hold an event at the Braskem factory, initially scheduled for last Friday. But after extensive back and forth, factory officials ultimately asked to postpone, worried that a visit from Trump could jeopardize both the safety of the workers and the plant’s ability to produce special material for masks and other medical gear, according to two people familiar with the decision and documents reviewed by The Post.

washingtonpost.com

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  May 11, 2020 • 5:04:42pm

I wasn’t aware that Woody Harrelson had played LBJ on top of the recent HBO adaptation that starred Bryan Cranston

Speech is here:

americanrhetoric.com

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Belafon  May 11, 2020 • 5:04:58pm
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Teddy's Person  May 11, 2020 • 5:05:50pm

“No one appreciates the very special genius of your conversation as the dog does.” ~ Christopher Morley

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William Lewis  May 11, 2020 • 5:07:18pm

re: #14 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Or turn out on a dirt road and go about a half a mile.

Or just use the door as a shield.

Still, when I left Kansas on ETSing from the active Army, I had hated my time at Ft Riley so much that I stopped on the interstate, got out and walked a few feet back to the state line and pissed across it into Kansas from Missouri.

Couldn’t have been that bad though, it was less than six months before I was at the National Guard recruiters office looking to wear the BDU’s again.

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Targetpractice  May 11, 2020 • 5:09:34pm

Donny won’t say the “crime” because Faux hasn’t told him the “crime” yet.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 11, 2020 • 5:09:57pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Dread Pirate  May 11, 2020 • 5:10:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2020 • 5:15:37pm
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The Pie Overlord!  May 11, 2020 • 5:17:03pm

Andy Branco: pathetic garbage cartoonist with less talent than Ben Garrison.

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Sinistershade  May 11, 2020 • 5:18:36pm

re: #3 Omar Comin’ Yo

I know the answer to this one….

Obama is witty, good looking, intelligent and black.
That’s almost a felony.

It’s much worse than that. He’s popular.

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2020 • 5:19:11pm
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gocart mozart  May 11, 2020 • 5:21:04pm
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jaunte  May 11, 2020 • 5:21:13pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 11, 2020 • 5:22:09pm

re: #29 jaunte

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The corrupted court will vote 5-4 to grant him immunity.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 11, 2020 • 5:23:26pm

re: #30 Joe Bacon 🌹

The corrupted court will vote 5-4 to grant him immunity.

Was just going to say this.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 5:25:14pm

That GoFundMe needs more fraud reports for the asshats in Castle Rock, Colo.

The amount is now raised is $2,300.

Behind the privacy bar is the account:

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“Fraud” is the category GoFundMe says to use on their report page for raising money for criminal activities.

You will be required to give the URL of the fundraiser, your E-mail if you have no account there, and your telephone number. I intentionally broke the link to the fundraiser here (replace the word dot with a period).

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Targetpractice  May 11, 2020 • 5:26:40pm

re: #30 Joe Bacon 🌹

The corrupted court will vote 5-4 to grant him immunity.

With bonus points for saying that Clinton v. Jones was totally a one-time event (like Bush v. Gore) and so Donny is totally immune from civil law litigation while in office.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 11, 2020 • 5:28:25pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

With bonus points for saying that Clinton v. Jones was totally a one-time event (like Bush v. Gore) and so Donny is totally immune from civil law litigation while in office.

They won’t stop there. I fully expect them to give him absolute immunity.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 5:30:56pm

re: #23 Dread Pirate

This douchecanoe.

I’ll bet you don’t know the difference between “mutual” or “commensal” and you just looked up those words to think you’re smart. They both refer to parasites and bacteria, not viruses.

It’s also not an aberration, dingus. You can repeat that test as many times as you like and get the same result (the hallmark of scientific enquiry: anyone can do the same experiment and get the same result with the correct tools).

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The Pie Overlord!  May 11, 2020 • 5:31:05pm
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Charles Johnson  May 11, 2020 • 5:34:03pm
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Eventual Carrion  May 11, 2020 • 5:34:06pm

re: #29 jaunte

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Just like they did Bill Clinton?

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Dread Pirate  May 11, 2020 • 5:34:56pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 11, 2020 • 5:35:06pm

re: #30 Joe Bacon 🌹

The corrupted court will vote 5-4 to grant him immunity.

Which will last until President Biden is inaugurated. (We can use the time gathering evidence.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 11, 2020 • 5:35:09pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

The motto of today’s wingnut right: “I reject your reality and substitute my own.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 5:35:20pm

re: #23 Dread Pirate

No shit, Sherlock. Deflect, deny, anything to defend a religious faith against a countervailing fact.

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jaunte  May 11, 2020 • 5:35:56pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Reported. I’ll let you know if I get a response.

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Targetpractice  May 11, 2020 • 5:36:27pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

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In the era of “access”-centric journalism, I can easily imagine her getting back to the office, only to face a red-faced editor screaming at her for being “confrontational” with him rather than meekly accepting his “answer” and thus imperiling the network’s future “access” to the WH.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 11, 2020 • 5:38:28pm

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jaunte  May 11, 2020 • 5:40:09pm

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Twitter medical advice; worth price paid.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 5:41:20pm

re: #34 Joe Bacon 🌹

They won’t stop there. I fully expect them to give him absolute immunity.

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goddamnedfrank  May 11, 2020 • 5:43:30pm
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Targetpractice  May 11, 2020 • 5:46:57pm

re: #39 Dread Pirate

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The only answer I’m interested in is from Ronna and that’s if she believes that lying to the FBI (or, really, any LEO) has ceased to be a crime. Obviously Michael Flynn thought so, as he plead guilty not once but twice to doing so. And only decided to challenge such after his new QAnon lawyer decided to start a campaign to get Donny to pardon him.

The only excuse we’ve heard is the “a cop has to tell you they’re a cop even if they’re undercover, else it’s ‘entrapment’” BS that no self-respecting lawyer would ever try as a defense.

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Dread Pirate  May 11, 2020 • 5:47:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 5:50:19pm

Local news:

The attorney who serves as the guardian ad litem in Scott’s Bluff County, as well as sitting on the boards of several local charities, just died from a terrible car wreck on Saturday. The wreck occurred on a county road three miles east of Scottsbluff.

The county sheriff’s department determined the other driver was the cause of the wreck. That driver’s car dipped off the shoulder of the road into the soft sand, overcorrected, and hit the attorney’s car head-on. That driver died at the scene.

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PhillyPretzel  May 11, 2020 • 5:52:15pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I am very sorry to hear that.

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William Lewis  May 11, 2020 • 5:56:57pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Local news:

The attorney who serves as the guardian ad litem in Scott’s Bluff County, as well as sitting on the boards of several local charities, just died from a terrible car wreck on Saturday. The wreck occurred on a county road three miles east of Scottsbluff.

The county sheriff’s department determined the other driver was the cause of the wreck. That driver’s car dipped off the shoulder of the road into the soft sand, overcorrected, and hit the attorney’s car head-on. That driver died at the scene.

That sucks. It’s hard to find the people willing to do guardian ad litem work. I was grateful for the gentleman who did it for my son when we were forced to sue the state of Wisconsin to get him the medical treatment his juvenile onset schizophrenia required. We differ on this issue but I’ll hope he finds the Light on the other side.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 11, 2020 • 6:01:19pm

Just before the rain…

San Francisco bay toward the south:

There’s more to the bay than the Golden Gate

Signature bridge with signature problems:

Shouldn’t have torn down the old one
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Barefoot Grin  May 11, 2020 • 6:01:44pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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From the very first day I walked our rescue dog Aki, she knew to avoid sewer grates. She has never tried to walk on one. I guess “mind the gap” doesn’t need to be explained to most dogs.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 11, 2020 • 6:02:25pm

Oranges and lemons!

Pretty, but too far north to be tasty
No need to be sweet
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 11, 2020 • 6:04:01pm

And some flowers:

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Shropshire Slasher  May 11, 2020 • 6:04:51pm

re: #12 Omar Comin’ Yo

You pull over, walk to the fence and act as if you are watching something……

Someone is always bound to come by.

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Jay C  May 11, 2020 • 6:04:53pm

re: #45 Jebediah, RBG

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2020 • 6:05:01pm
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gocart mozart  May 11, 2020 • 6:06:32pm
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Citizen K  May 11, 2020 • 6:06:54pm

re: #23 Dread Pirate

Reminded immediately of a similar experiment the Mythbusters ran.

How a Virus Spreads So Easily | MythBusters

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 11, 2020 • 6:10:56pm

re: #23 Dread Pirate

OMG. This is why we have trump.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 11, 2020 • 6:19:16pm

re: #56 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Now I’m craving freshly squeezed OJ.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 11, 2020 • 6:20:30pm
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gocart mozart  May 11, 2020 • 6:24:38pm

Les Misérables 2012 Master of the House
I heard this song and now I can’t get it out of my head.

Master of the house is a catchy song [Seinfeld]


The lyrics are great, here are some.

Master of the house, quick to catch yer eye
Never was a passerby to pass him by
Servant to the poor, butler to the great
Comforter, philosopher, and lifelong mate!
Everybody’s boon companion
Everybody’s chaperone
But lock up your valises
Jesus! Won’t I skin you to the bone!
Food beyond compare. Food beyond belief
Mix it in a mincer and pretend it’s beef
Kidney of a horse, liver of a cat
Filling up the sausages with this and that
Residents are more than welcome
Bridal suite is occupied
Reasonable charges
Plus some little extras on the side!
(Oh Santa!)
Charge ‘em for the lice, extra for the mice
Two percent for looking in the mirror twice (Hand it over!)
Here a little slice, there a little cut
Three percent for sleeping with the window shut
When it comes to fixing prices
There are a lot of tricks I knows
How it all increases, all them bits and pieces
Jesus! It’s amazing how it grows!
(Oh, sorry love
Must get something done about that)
I used to dream that I would meet a prince
But God Almighty, have you seen what’s happened since?
Master of the house? Isn’t worth my spit!
Comforter, philosopher and lifelong shit!
Cunning little brain, regular Voltaire
Thinks he’s quite a lover but there’s not much there
What a cruel trick of nature landed me with such a louse
God knows how I’ve lasted living with this bastard in the house!

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Jebediah, RBG  May 11, 2020 • 6:29:46pm

re: #59 Jay C

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Jay C  May 11, 2020 • 6:30:39pm

re: #65 The Pie Overlord!

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Riiiight….:
“Team Trump’s Livestream” featuring *Mitch McConnell* talking to *Lara Trump*…

Real cutting-edge, probing journalism, there!!!!

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plansbandc  May 11, 2020 • 6:30:47pm

re: #63 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I got a headache from reading that.

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jaunte  May 11, 2020 • 6:36:41pm
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Eventual Carrion  May 11, 2020 • 6:36:42pm

re: #63 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

OMG. This is why we have trump.

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That and the 3 others around this person going, “Yeah!”.

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Belafon  May 11, 2020 • 6:39:19pm

re: #63 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

OMG. This is why we have trump.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 11, 2020 • 6:39:57pm

re: #59 Jay C

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The Pie Overlord!  May 11, 2020 • 6:40:51pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 6:44:59pm

The GoFundMe for the criminals in Castle Rock has nearly reached one-quarter of its goal of $20,000 in about three hours.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 11, 2020 • 6:50:28pm

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The GoFundMe for the criminals in Castle Rock has nearly reached one-quarter of its goal of $20,000 in about three hours.

Is there another planet that I can go live on? Really getting tired of this one. Now that I think of it, it’s not the planet, it’s the people. is there another planet that we could send a few billion people to?

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  May 11, 2020 • 6:53:21pm

re: #76 I Would Prefer Not To

Is there another planet that I can go live on? Really getting tired of this one. Now that I think of it, it’s not the planet, it’s the people. is there another planet that we could send a few billion people to?

We could tell them it’s the freest planet on earth and they would leave and never catch the irony.

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Jay C  May 11, 2020 • 6:54:00pm

re: #73 Jebediah, RBG

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Belafon  May 11, 2020 • 6:54:13pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How do you report it?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 6:55:28pm

re: #76 I Would Prefer Not To

Is there another planet that I can go live on? Really getting tired of this one. Now that I think of it, it’s not the planet, it’s the people. is there another planet that we could send a few billion people to?

Most of the donations are $20, but some are as high as $1,000.

They have now surpassed one-quarter of the goal.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 6:57:55pm

re: #79 Belafon

How do you report it?

Below the featured comments on the fundraiser’s description is a flag icon. Click that and it takes you to the report page.

GoFundMe notes that for the type of report, criminal activity is to be reported as “fraud” from the drop-down choices in one of the fields.

You will need the link both to get to the fundraiser, and for the form. It is behind the privacy bar.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 7:00:43pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  May 11, 2020 • 7:02:45pm

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Below the featured comments on the fundraiser’s description is a flag icon. Click that and it takes you to the report page.

GoFundMe notes that for the type of report, criminal activity is to be reported as “fraud” from the drop-down choices in one of the fields.

You will need the link both to get to the fundraiser, and for the form. It is behind the privacy bar.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 7:05:43pm

re: #83 I Would Prefer Not To

$4,875 raised of $20,000 goal

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 11, 2020 • 7:07:40pm

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

$4,875 raised of $20,000 goal

If they raise it all, and GoFuckMe cancels it, they don’t get the money.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 7:07:56pm

LOL

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 11, 2020 • 7:08:51pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

LOL

“Space Karen”. I’m dying.

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2020 • 7:08:59pm

Me and Roy, slapping a nazi around yesterday

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 7:09:31pm

re: #85 I Would Prefer Not To

If they raise it all, and GoFuckMe cancels it, they don’t get the money.

And for a cancelled fundraiser, those who donated have to submit a claim through the Website to get their money back, which could take several weeks.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of covidiots.

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Belafon  May 11, 2020 • 7:10:08pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

LOL

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I wonder how Neal Stephenson feels about it since he carted a hero character based on Musk in Seven Eves, that is way more heroic than Musk now.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 7:10:15pm

re: #88 gocart mozart

Me and Roy, slapping a nazi around yesterday

And you weren’t put in Twitter jail? 1/2

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2020 • 7:11:30pm

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I was very polite

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 11, 2020 • 7:14:01pm

re: #92 gocart mozart

I was very polite

That doesn’t mean much on Twitter, especially when arguing with Nazis. They know how to turn on the right-wing hate machine to get people temp banned.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 11, 2020 • 7:14:35pm

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Below the featured comments on the fundraiser’s description is a flag icon. Click that and it takes you to the report page.

GoFundMe notes that for the type of report, criminal activity is to be reported as “fraud” from the drop-down choices in one of the fields.

You will need the link both to get to the fundraiser, and for the form. It is behind the privacy bar.

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2020 • 7:15:34pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As if Musk spends any time on an assembly line.

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calochortus  May 11, 2020 • 7:17:13pm

re: #95 EPR-radar

As if Musk spends any time on an assembly line.

Also, apparently Alameda County was in talks with Musk as to how he could reopen next Monday, so he’s just being a jerk by not waiting.

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2020 • 7:18:00pm

As for the crime Trump is alluding to in the OP, it was that time Obama viciously mocked him at the White House correspondents’ dinner.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 7:18:02pm

$5,120 raised of $20,000 goal

Still rising.

GoFundMe needs to be called out publicly. This would be a good time if someone has a reporter in their Twitter or Facebook feeds to give the information to that person.

Since GoFundMe gets a cut of money raised, they might be a bit slow at responding to private reports (much like Facebook or Twitter).

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2020 • 7:19:36pm

re: #96 calochortus

Also, apparently Alameda County was in talks with Musk as to how he could reopen next Monday, so he’s just being a jerk by not waiting.

Even though Musk is a giant gaping asshole, he remains the less psychotic of the two PayPal principals.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 7:19:45pm

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More frequent $100+ donations are rolling in now.

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2020 • 7:20:37pm

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More frequent $100+ donations are rolling in now.

The valorization of willful stupidity proceeds apace.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 7:26:39pm

Ricketts rejects calls to cancel TestNebraska contract, name nursing homes with coronavirus cases (Omaha World-Herald)

LINCOLN — Gov. Pete Ricketts rejected a call from four state senators to cancel the state’s $27 million contract with TestNebraska, saying the Utah companies behind the testing were the only group available for the hard-to-obtain tests.

“Every state was out there trying to find ways to expand testing and they still are looking — we’re still looking for ways,” Ricketts said Monday.

He’s lying. TestNebraska is not a coronavirus test. It is a cell phone app which collects data from people to allegedly make diagnostics easier if you later come down with the disease.

The app was developed by interested amateurs in Utah and given to the state government there. The state government then sold it off to a private corporation almost immediately, which then turned around and sold it to Nebraska.

State senator Megan Hunt had to fight to get an FOIA to find out how much tax money went into this, and called for the governor to cancel the no-bid contract (which violates state law, bids must be solicited even if it is known there is only one provider of a product or service).

State Sen. Machaela Cavanaugh of Omaha joined three other Democratic senators in calling for the cancellation of the contract with Nomi Health of Orem, Utah, and three other firms from the so-called “silicon slope” in that state.

The senators questioned the expertise of Nomi Health, which is a data collection firm with little health background, and its ability to provide 540,000 COVID-19 test kits for Nebraska, and said the money should have been invested in Nebraska tech companies and its public labs.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 7:29:04pm

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is the actual site for TestNebraska.

testnebraska.com (in English)

All it does is collect personal medical and contact information from you.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 7:34:51pm

We’re fuqued.

>> Reopening. All but four Nebraska counties will be allowed to ease up on social distancing restrictions by next Monday. Ricketts announced that he would allow dine-in restaurants, hair salons, massage therapy and other close-contact services to reopen in the Elkhorn Logan Valley health district on Wednesday.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 11, 2020 • 7:36:07pm

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re fuqued.

>> Reopening. All but four Nebraska counties will be allowed to ease up on social distancing restrictions by next Monday. Ricketts announced that he would allow dine-in restaurants, hair salons, massage therapy and other close-contact services to reopen in the Elkhorn Logan Valley health district on Wednesday.

Oh shit.

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stpaulbear  May 11, 2020 • 7:37:27pm

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re fuqued.

>> Reopening. All but four Nebraska counties will be allowed to ease up on social distancing restrictions by next Monday. Ricketts announced that he would allow dine-in restaurants, hair salons, massage therapy and other close-contact services to reopen in the Elkhorn Logan Valley health district on Wednesday.

Rachel Maddow laid into Ricketts a few days ago as the worst manager of covid-19 information from any state. She wasn’t holding back.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 7:44:33pm

re: #106 stpaulbear

Rachel Maddow laid into Ricketts a few days ago as the worst manager of covid-19 information from any state. She wasn’t holding back.

I saw the clip. Taylor Gage (his spokesmodel) went apoplectic on Twitter, calling her “fake news” and such.

Then he was dragged for a couple days by Nebraskans asking why he was a coward and would not address her points, and demanded he or the governor appear on her show.

He got seventeen likes, and scores of comments, all negative. (Twitter won’t show me the ratio on my computer.)

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jaunte  May 11, 2020 • 7:46:11pm

“…The 10 top areas recorded surges of 72.4 percent or greater over a seven-day period compared to the previous week, according to a set of tables produced for the task force by its data and analytics unit. They include Nashville, Tennessee; Des Moines, Iowa; Amarillo, Texas; and — atop the list, with a 650 percent increase — Central City, Kentucky.

On a separate list of “locations to watch,” which didn’t meet the precise criteria for the first set: Charlotte, North Carolina; Kansas City, Missouri; Omaha and Lincoln, Nebraska; Minneapolis; Montgomery, Alabama; Columbus, Ohio; and Phoenix. The rates of new cases in Charlotte and Kansas City represented increases of more than 200 percent over the previous week, and other tables included in the data show clusters in neighboring counties that don’t form geographic areas on their own, such as Wisconsin’s Kenosha and Racine counties, which neighbor each other between Chicago and Milwaukee.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 11, 2020 • 7:47:40pm

re: #108 jaunte

The latest numbers here suggest that we may finally have caught up on our testing - we have maintained a roughly 5000 tests/day rate over the weekend, but the % of new positives has fallen from 15-18% to 10-12%. This week’s numbers will be most telling, if new cases continue to fall we may begin to reopen as early as next week.

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Disloyal Archangel  May 11, 2020 • 7:49:51pm

re: #108 jaunte

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This reinforces my feeling that the red states with all the locations that either disregarded the situation or flat-out refused to act about it are about to make the figures coming out of New York and California seem quaint by comparison soon enough…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 7:51:18pm

re: #105 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh shit.

We have the National Quarantine Center in Nebraska (that’s where most of the Diamond Princess passengers who came up positive ended up). We have a world-class infectious disease research laboratory at the University of Nebraska Omaha.

Pete Ricketts routinely derides both our universities and public schools. He never refers to them as anything but “government schools.” He believes the entire system should be ignored or privatised.

Republicans in this state routinely ignore letters from constituents who are Democrats (I get the impression staffers check voter registrations before deciding whether to respond).

My federal representative is on record saying he only represents Republicans.

And for all that, it is a political improvement from when I lived in Oklahoma.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 11, 2020 • 7:51:33pm

My mom’s been on a string of profanity-inducing memes about “LULZ QUARANTINES ARE FOR SICK PPL GOVERNMENT IS TYRANNY” and it’s literally triggering me. I understand that she’s upset she can’t just show up and see her grandkids, or that she can’t go out for dinner with her friends, or get her hair colored, but mom… come off it. You’re in the at-risk group and I know that old people are famous for not wanting to be told what to do, but for once, be SENSIBLE.

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Disloyal Archangel  May 11, 2020 • 7:52:14pm

After a friend’s recommendation, I tried doing a few graphics based on my previous posts on COVID deaths. What say you?

(I originally used “ALL DEAD” instead of the Covid-19 reference, but I kept thinking that might come across as threatening in nature)

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Dave In Austin  May 11, 2020 • 7:52:35pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  May 11, 2020 • 7:53:09pm

re: #110 Disloyal Archangel

This reinforces my feeling that the red states with all the locations that either disregarded the situation or flat-out refused to act about it are about to make the figures coming out of New York and California seem quaint by comparison soon enough…

and this depresses me. For once in my life I would be able to shout “I Told You So!” I’ll be right and thousands will be dead. If someone can find meaning in this, please educate me. I am at a loss.

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mmmirele  May 11, 2020 • 7:53:33pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Campaign reported.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 11, 2020 • 7:54:24pm

Number of new cases nationwide has fallen below 20,000 for the first time since March 28th and number of deaths were about 1,000. Let’s see if this decline is real and continues over the next few weeks.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 11, 2020 • 7:54:52pm
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Disloyal Archangel  May 11, 2020 • 7:55:24pm

re: #117 Hecuba’s daughter

Number of new cases nationwide has fallen below 20,000 for the first time since March 28th and number of deaths were about 1,000. Let’s see if this decline is real and continues over the next few weeks.

Unless we’re really really lucky, I don’t expect the decline to hold by a long shot…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 11, 2020 • 7:56:22pm

re: #119 Disloyal Archangel

Unless we’re really really lucky, I don’t expect the decline to hold by a long shot…

I expect an interesting dichotomy where certain places will continue to decline, but be more than offset by the sharp increases in other areas.

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Belafon  May 11, 2020 • 8:00:40pm

re: #117 Hecuba’s daughter

Number of new cases nationwide has fallen below 20,000 for the first time since March 28th and number of deaths were about 1,000. Let’s see if this decline is real and continues over the next few weeks.

I’m a little skeptical of going from 2000 to 1000 in a day or two.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 8:03:34pm

re: #112 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I don’t have to deal with family problems like yours or Joe Bacon’s since all my family disowned me years ago.

That said, it might be time to put down the foot.

“Mom, I am not interested in your memes. They are factually incorrect, they do nothing to build trust or love in our family. If you insist on continuing to share such information which is known to be false, I will have to stop communicating with you.”

It is tough to draw a line with family members, and if she’s doing this despite you asking her to stop, then she doesn’t care about your feelings. That is a harsh statement but a true one.

You have to draw a line about what is acceptable and say “this far and no farther.” You wouldn’t accept it from some rando on Faceborg or some RWNJ in your town. As harsh as it sounds, Mom doesn’t get a special pass to act as a [insert epithet] because she is Mom.

You are neither required to respect that attitude nor give deference to it, and if she’s exploiting your emotions just because she’s your mother and she can, you need to take care of yourself first.

After the shitshow showdown with my sister in person in Chicago in late December, I know I will never speak to her again. She will not apologise for her hideous commentary to me and my wife and I know it. An apology from her is my price for speaking with her again, and I know she won’t do it; she is that stubborn.

The one cousin who still associates with me tries to magic balancefairy the issue (she was there too), saying I should give in to my sister. Nope. She’s been doing this all my life and after half-a-century I am done with that.

In reality, my sister probably thinks she is better off without me as well, so nothing of value was lost.

I hope it doesn’t come to a permanent loss of your relationship with your mother, but you must tell her what your boundaries are and you will not abide abuse.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 8:06:05pm

re: #121 Belafon

I’m a little skeptical of going from 2000 to 1000 in a day or two.

It may be catch up reporting from the Mother’s Day holiday will happen in the next day or two.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 11, 2020 • 8:09:24pm

re: #118 The Pie Overlord!

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One of the tweets responding to this video expresses my feelings:

I asked myself - why are these videos (of Sarah’s) so damn good?

1.They allow me to hear Trump’s voice & comments without feeling infuriated.

2.They remove Trump’s appearance & in doing so permit a clearer focus on the CONTENT of his speech (which is invariably outrageous).

Hearing Trump’s voice from Sarah’s mouth while observing her expressions and motions makes it possible to listen to his actual words and understand them; this would otherwise escape me because I cannot watch him in either real time or through videos or even listen to him speak on the radio.

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Teddy's Person  May 11, 2020 • 8:14:47pm

Moscow Mitch can fuck the fuck right off.

[from his “interview” with Lara Trump] “I think President Obama should have kept his mouth shut. You know, we know he doesn’t like much this administration is doing. That’s understandable. But I think it’s a little bit classless frankly to critique an administration that comes after you,” McConnell said. Source: The Hill

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 8:16:24pm

$6,505 raised of $20,000 goal

They’re still grifting strong.

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Teddy's Person  May 11, 2020 • 8:18:43pm

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

$6,505 raised of $20,000 goal

They’re still grifting strong.

I wonder if GoFundMe has to wait to see if the campaign meets its goal. I thought if it didn’t, the campaign was basically cancelled and the funds returned to contributors.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 8:22:07pm

re: #127 Teddy’s Person

I wonder if GoFundMe has to wait to see if the campaign meets its goal. I thought if it didn’t, the campaign was basically cancelled and the funds returned to contributors.

They can cancel at any time if it supports criminal activity or breaks the rules of the site.

Moreover, there are fundraisers which have been there for years which have not reached their goals yet.

My sister used GoFundMe to help her out after her wife died. GoFundMe makes the money available to the recipient as soon as it clears; the recipient can withdraw their money (minus the fee) immediately.

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jaunte  May 11, 2020 • 8:22:10pm
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CleverToad  May 11, 2020 • 8:28:40pm

re: #113 Disloyal Archangel

After a friend’s recommendation, I tried doing a few graphics based on my previous posts on COVID deaths. What say you?

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(I originally used “ALL DEAD” instead of the Covid-19 reference, but I kept thinking that might come across as threatening in nature)

You’re right, these comparisons are a good visual way to help people grasp the numbingly large numbers we’re dealing with now. The graphics help. I’d be inclined to include the date on which the number of deaths surpassed the capacity of each stadium. Perhaps go back to track the smaller venues and the dates they were matched? Something like:

XXX Stadium
Capacity: 99,999

US Deaths from COVID-19
May 10, 99,999
#TrumpDeathToll

This is going to be a grim and ongoing project. Having the date span over the series of images may help drive home how fast it’s happening.

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Belafon  May 11, 2020 • 8:31:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 8:31:27pm

U.S. Youth Pastor Who Fled His Child Sex Abuse Trial Is Arrested in Mexico (Friendly Atheist)

Don’t expect the Q-nuts to celebrate this; he’s a white guy not named Obama or Clinton.

Former Texas youth pastor Jeffrey Winston Forrest had been on the U.S. Marshals’ 15 Most Wanted list for the last two months, following his flight abroad when he didn’t show up for his 2016 trial on two counts of sexual assault of a child.

Acting on a tip from someone who’d spotted Forrest at a Walmart in the Zapopan area last month (after the pastor’s case was featured on In Pursuit With Adam Walsh), Mexican authorities arrested him on Friday.

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He’s already been extradited to Texas. The state imposed a $3,000,000 bond, but even if he met it, he can’t be released due to a federal hold.

Why such a man was even allowed to remain out on bail for the original trial is unclear to me. I’m sure Christian privilege wouldn’t have anything to do with it.

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jaunte  May 11, 2020 • 8:33:43pm

re: #113 Disloyal Archangel

One thing to add: these large numbers start to depersonalize the losses. Each of these was a father, a mother, a child, traumatic pain caused by a gap in each family that lost a member. A future that won’t be realized.

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Targetpractice  May 11, 2020 • 8:33:53pm

re: #129 jaunte

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We can look forward to levels of mental gymnastics not seen outside of the Olympics as Senate Repubs try their damndest to get Dr. Fauci to say that the threat of CV-19 is “overblown” and that the public can quickly return to “normal” in order to “save the economy.”

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Dr Lizardo  May 11, 2020 • 8:34:23pm

re: #10 jaunte

I’m sticking with the massive urinal concept.

And when he finally shuffles off this mortal coil, this can be his mausoleum:

The Donald J. Trump Presidential Memorial
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CleverToad  May 11, 2020 • 8:34:24pm

re: #12 Omar Comin’ Yo

You pull over, walk to the fence and act as if you are watching something……

That works for guys, anyway.

I always remember the story my grandmother told of being out on the bare Montana prairies in a Model T when her friend Anna was caught in a beside-the-car crouch by the unexpected appearance of another car coming over a rise. Instead of trying to cover her face, Anna threw her skirts over her head.

As she explained to Grandma, “If I ever meet those folks again, that ain’t the part they’re going to recognize.”

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2020 • 8:35:05pm

re: #120 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I expect an interesting dichotomy where certain places will continue to decline, but be more than offset by the sharp increases in other areas.

Same here. I expect a statistically significant red state/blue state difference to appear in the numbers in a month or so.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 8:35:57pm

re: #136 CleverToad

LOL, she’s clever.

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2020 • 8:38:47pm

re: #129 jaunte

What Fauci should tell the Senate is that the single most effective thing they could do for US public health would be to promise 2/3 vote to remove Trump from office as part of begging the House for more articles of impeachment.

Sure, at best Pence would be fucking useless, but that would be a big improvement relative to the Trump crime circus and clown show we now have.

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plansbandc  May 11, 2020 • 8:40:47pm

So Bryan Adams just killed what little is left of his career. Holy SHIT what a racist tirade.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 8:42:29pm

“Persecuted” Christian pastor Tony Spell is suing Louisiana John Bel Edwards.

Pastor Tony Spell files lawsuit against Governor Edwards over stay-at-home order (WBRZ-TV, Baton Rouge)

CENTRAL - A local pastor who flagrantly defied Governor John Bel Edwards’ stay-at-home order by repeatedly holding large gatherings at his church is now suing the governor and local officials.

Documents filed Thursday say pastor Tony Spell is seeking a temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction preventing Governor Edwards and the heads of local law enforcement agencies from arresting or fining him for continuing to hold services while the state order is in effect. EBR Mayor-President Sharon Weston Broome and Central Mayor David Barrow are also named in the suit.

In the documents, attorneys representing Spell say it is a “travesty” that the pastor’s religious freedoms were infringed and claim that it hasn’t been proven that Spell truly violated the “ambiguous and contradictorily-worded” emergency order.

Spell was arrested last month after surveillance cameras caught him nearly striking a protester near Life Tabernacle Church while driving a church bus. Spell was then placed under house arrest after his release from jail for continuing to hold services despite a condition of his bond spelling out that he must obey the emergency order.

Governor Edwards’ current stay-at-home order is set to expire in just over a week on May 15.

The article includes a link to the lawsuit filing. It is as full of religious wingnuttery as you might expect, none of which actually applies to the law.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2020 • 8:42:41pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick has tweeted a video posted by Aaron Rupar. He actually thinks this makes him look good.

He’s playing to his braindead followers. Anybody who hasn’t drank the Koolaid will look at this and (hopefully) deduce that this man is not well.

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Romantic Heretic  May 11, 2020 • 8:42:57pm

re: #18 Belafon

Doubt that would help.

So far as we know turtles are not effected by the virus.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 8:47:33pm

I’m going to head off to bed. Hopefully tomorrow I’ll see that these chowderheads had their grift removed from GoFundMe, followed by the keening whinge of wingnuts across the land claiming “liberal censorship.”

They have now surpassed 1/3 of the goal in five hours.

$6,735 raised of $20,000 goal

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 11, 2020 • 8:48:22pm
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Targetpractice  May 11, 2020 • 8:50:02pm

Things we can expect the Senate Repubs to try to get Dr. Fauci to say tomorrow:

- Dems “overreacted” to the danger posed by CV-19, imposing state/local orders that “went too far” rather than trusting the public to take “appropriate measures” to ensure their own safety

- That the media has been spreading “fake news” about the WH response to CV-19 and Trump’s actions were “realistic” rather than giving into the “hysteria” Dems whipped up about the outbreak

- In the same vein, any governors who’ve criticized the WH for being “slow” or not taking the matter “seriously” were engaged in partisan grandstanding and reports of shortages and hospital staff being in danger were “overblown”

- And the big one: Tell the public that that early hysteria was due to “faulty” models that predictions millions of deaths and the fact that we’re coming “way under” means we could avoided shutting down the economy and so Trump is blameless for the ongoing depression.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 11, 2020 • 8:50:45pm

I would love to be do/see this.

Trump: Maybe You should ask China.

Me: Maybe you should man up and do your fucking job.

Trump: You’re a nasty person.

Me: Guilty, but I’m not POTUS. And 80,000 US citizens haven’t died because of your incompetence.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 11, 2020 • 8:51:15pm

re: #112 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My mom’s been on a string of profanity-inducing memes about “LULZ QUARANTINES ARE FOR SICK PPL GOVERNMENT IS TYRANNY” and it’s literally triggering me. I understand that she’s upset she can’t just show up and see her grandkids, or that she can’t go out for dinner with her friends, or get her hair colored, but mom… come off it. You’re in the at-risk group and I know that old people are famous for not wanting to be told what to do, but for once, be SENSIBLE.

I’m at the point where I’ve finally had it with insane nutball relatives. If they want to win Darwin awards let them.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 11, 2020 • 8:51:23pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 11, 2020 • 8:55:16pm

re: #129 jaunte

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 8:59:41pm

re: #133 jaunte

One thing to add: these large numbers start to depersonalize the losses. Each of these was a father, a mother, a child, traumatic pain caused by a gap in each family that lost a member. A future that won’t be realized.

a) much like gun violence
b) and the GOP will treat it the same way: Now is not the time to talk about the issue or politicise it.

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Patricia Kayden  May 11, 2020 • 9:00:57pm
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Dread Pirate  May 11, 2020 • 9:02:20pm
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Targetpractice  May 11, 2020 • 9:03:38pm

re: #150 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Frantic midnight calls going out among the Senate Repub leadership, trying to figure out how they can move this hearing behind closed doors at the last second. Or (failing that), how to bar the media from live broadcasts.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 11, 2020 • 9:07:57pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

a) much like gun violence
b) and the GOP will treat it the same way: Now is not the time to talk about the issue or politicise it.

The difference is that with Covid-19 everyone in the country is going to either know someone that died or have a friend that knows someone who died. This makes it a thousand times more personal.

They will try and lie about the numbers, but they can’t put 150,000* bodies in a memory hole.

* is my guess of how many dead in US by Covid by election day.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 9:10:56pm

re: #153 Dread Pirate

Republicans don’t care which agents they burn or if our espionage apparatus is completely compromised so long as they can support their conspiratorial religion over facts and truth.

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Renaissance_Man  May 11, 2020 • 9:12:12pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

a) much like gun violence
b) and the GOP will treat it the same way: Now is not the time to talk about the issue or politicise it.

All of America will, to be honest. The losses really are just too large, too difficult to comprehend. It impacts my daily professional life and I can’t even really process 80,000 dead in two months.

There are not that many people in the US who have lived through truly massive loss of life. I am pressed to think of many examples since WWII - the Khmer Rouge, Idi Amin, and Rwanda come to mind, but there aren’t that many Americans that have had things like this happen around them. Americans accept staggering amounts of gun violence and death, and this appears no different.

America’s aristocrats are counting on this. They’re counting on people simply not caring about their neighbours. They’re counting on people not caring that others die to get them a haircut or their chicken nuggets. They’re counting on people not caring enough to question that the nation somehow goes from two thousand deaths a day to basically none within a week or two, and not caring if they just stop reporting deaths. That’s one of the main purposes of US media, to give people any flimsy excuse not to care.

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Romantic Heretic  May 11, 2020 • 9:14:39pm

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

You’re going to have to gold plate that thing.

Otherwise Trump will rise form the dead. He wouldn’t allow himself to be buried in something so…pedestrian. Unfitting for the Greatest Person The World Has Ever Known!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 9:15:15pm

Religion poisons everything, part eleventy million.

Exclusive: Internal Memo Circulated by LA GOP’s Sharon Hewitt Outlines Effort to Undermine Emergency Covid-19 Orders (Bayou Brief)

An internal memorandum from Mandeville-based GOP political operative Jay Connaughton, addressed to Republican state Sen. Sharon Hewitt of Slidell, and privately circulated among GOP state legislators outlines a series of talking points to use in a coordinated campaign aimed at politicizing and undermining the emergency orders issued by Gov. John Bel Edwards in curtailing the Covid-19 pandemic.

Edwards’ orders are in conformance with the guidelines issued by the White House and follow the recommendations of public health experts and medical professionals. The Bayou Brief obtained a copy of the document earlier this evening.

Among other things, the memo advises legislators to avoid “trap words” like “death/die,” “politics/political,” “models,” and “hoax.” The very first “trap word” on the list: “Republican.”

It cautions lawmakers to anticipate questions about whether or not “reopening too early (will) cause the virus to rebound” and whether a “virus respects parish borders.” Taken in its totality, the document reads like a guide to subverting public health policy and reframing the efforts to curb the pandemic, which has already claimed the lives of at least 1,800 Louisianians, as an “economic shutdown.”

(more at the link above)

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 11, 2020 • 9:15:56pm

re: #133 jaunte

One thing to add: these large numbers start to depersonalize the losses. Each of these was a father, a mother, a child, traumatic pain caused by a gap in each family that lost a member. A future that won’t be realized.

Governor Newsom underlines that every day when he announces the new cases/deaths at his daily briefing.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2020 • 9:16:55pm

One of my best friend’s father died of COVID-19 over the weekend.

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2020 • 9:17:55pm
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Dread Pirate  May 11, 2020 • 9:18:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 9:21:45pm

re: #161 teleskiguy

One of my best friend’s father died of COVID-19 over the weekend.

My sincere condolences on your friend’s loss.

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danarchy  May 11, 2020 • 9:21:51pm

re: #159 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Religion poisons everything, part eleventy million.

Exclusive: Internal Memo Circulated by LA GOP’s Sharon Hewitt Outlines Effort to Undermine Emergency Covid-19 Orders (Bayou Brief)

(more at the link above)

Where is the religious angle in this story?

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 11, 2020 • 9:22:45pm

re: #157 Renaissance_Man

All of America will, to be honest. The losses really are just too large, too difficult to comprehend. It impacts my daily professional life and I can’t even really process 80,000 dead in two months.

There are not that many people in the US who have lived through truly massive loss of life. I am pressed to think of many examples since WWII - the Khmer Rouge, Idi Amin, and Rwanda come to mind, but there aren’t that many Americans that have had things like this happen around them. Americans accept staggering amounts of gun violence and death, and this appears no different.

America’s aristocrats are counting on this. They’re counting on people simply not caring about their neighbours. They’re counting on people not caring that others die to get them a haircut or their chicken nuggets. They’re counting on people not caring enough to question that the nation somehow goes from two thousand deaths a day to basically none within a week or two, and not caring if they just stop reporting deaths. That’s one of the main purposes of US media, to give people any flimsy excuse not to care.

And the reason it’s not likely to work is that we’re already at more than twice the number of gun deaths per year. In two months. With no signs of it stopping. And it’s now spreading into the areas where they most want to deny it.

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retired cynic  May 11, 2020 • 9:23:10pm

re: #147 I Would Prefer Not To

I would love to be do/see this.

Trump: Maybe You should ask China.

Me: Maybe you should man up and do your fucking job.

Trump: You’re a nasty person.

Me: Guilty, but I’m not POTUS. And 80,000 US citizens haven’t died because of your incompetence.

Do you mean MY incompetence?

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Jack Burton  May 11, 2020 • 9:23:15pm

re: #155 I Would Prefer Not To

The difference is that with Covid-19 everyone in the country is going to either know someone that died or have a friend that knows someone who died. This makes it a thousand times more personal.

They will try and lie about the numbers, but they can’t put 150,000* bodies in a memory hole.

* is my guess of how many dead in US by Covid by election day.

I’m not an expert by any means but I’m getting the feeling that we will hit that second wave in stride by the end of June or around the 4th of July (Imagine Clownstick’s meltdown if he can’t have a Nürnburg Reichsparteitag on the 4th) at that point deaths-per-day nationwide will be likely higher than the peak in April was and accelerating. I might be being optimistic though. Could be earlier and worse.

I’m having trouble seeing how much longer after that point the clowns can pretend “opening up” was a good idea. If things haven’t already started to turn around by November, it will be fucking a apocalyptic bloodbath and in the millions (multi) of deaths. If wave 2 has a August/September-ish peak, maaaaaaybe the number of deaths can be kept under 1 million.

Again, I’m not an expert. Just a reasonably intelligent person with a degree in Computer Science and a genuine interest in all areas of science who’s really tired of bullshit.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 9:24:25pm

re: #165 danarchy

Where is the religious angle in this story?

Conservatism is a religion.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 11, 2020 • 9:27:59pm
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Targetpractice  May 11, 2020 • 9:33:05pm

Two questions that would get Donny into a frothing rage tomorrow:

“Dr. Fauci, do you believe that the Covid-19 virus was man-made in a laboratory in China? And, if so, what evidence do you have to support that conclusion?”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 9:38:48pm

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Note what Dark Falcon here did during the election. He said he did not support Trump, but other candidates.

When the GOP came down to Trump, did DF say anything like “I’m not voting for that guy?” No. He started denying facts and making excuses (my father) about why he had to vote for Trump.

He’d already identified the facts which to him made Trump an unacceptable choice, but when it was only Trump, he had to deny those same facts to justify voting for him.

In every step of the way he behaved as a religious person does in defending their faith.

Sixty million other Americans made that same choice. In the face of irrefutable evidence that Trump was manifestly unfit for office, their choice was to deny the facts and obey their party’s diktat.

If you do not support all our policy points, you are a heretic (RINO). The party has saints (Reagan, Lincoln, neither of which they actually understand). It has priests (party operatives and religious leaders) who tell them exactly how to think and what magical incantations to banish demons (Democrats). They put out missals (talking points) to ensure all their pastors (politicians) and parishioners (voters) are following their teachings (see the above article on the capture of the GOP talking points in Louisiana to undermine healthcare in the name of profit in a pandemic). They view wars against other nations as crusades (W in Iraq for example). Like all religions, atheists are evil (I don’t know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.—GHW Bush while I was in the Navy being a patriotic citizen and he was my Commander-in-Chief).

Every aspect of conservatism has the hallmark of every major religion, and if it gains permanent ascendancy they will drag us into another Dark Ages full of fear, disease, starvation, war, and death.

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William Lewis  May 11, 2020 • 9:47:28pm

re: #165 danarchy

Where is the religious angle in this story?

Is it really worth the fight? I doubt it since there is an absolute hatred of any of that in this moment.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2020 • 9:53:08pm

Well, I said I was going to bail earlier … I’ve since taken my medicine so I can no longer stay awake.

Catch y’all later. Keep the Republic alive whilst I’m gone.

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thecommodore  May 11, 2020 • 9:56:03pm

re: #3 Omar Comin’ Yo

I know the answer to this one….
Obama is witty, good looking, intelligent and black.
That’s almost a felony.

While Trump is fat, slovenly, and stupid.

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2020 • 9:57:53pm

re: #170 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Interesting. If true, China will have to close its borders tighter than a gnat’s asshole to avoid having reinfection from other countries dominating its results.

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TedStriker  May 11, 2020 • 9:59:34pm

re: #175 thecommodore

While Trump is fat, slovenly, and stupid.

Trump fashions himself to be master-of-his-own-destiny Neidermeyer, where he’s actually more like an evil version of Flounder.

Who still gets fragged by his own troops.

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Targetpractice  May 11, 2020 • 10:04:07pm

I think what we’re gonna see is that “Obamagate” is every bit the dud that past efforts to “investigate the investigators.” That it will be another “looks bad” report, comprised almost entirely of “crimes” that amount to pushing DOJ rules to their breaking point but never outright breaking the law. And the usual round of “What did Obama know and when did he know it?!” and similar “questions” that “the American people have.” A sea of furrowed brows and mutterings about “concern” and being “disturbed.”

But when actually pressed, they’ll all shy away from actually supporting criminal charges/trials and stop short of actually saying that any of it “exonerates” Donny.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 11, 2020 • 10:09:04pm

re: #173 William Lewis

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2020 • 10:10:43pm

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

People often believe what they want to believe, usually with stupid and evil results. But this can be done in both religious and non-religious contexts. E.g., there really isn’t anything more secular than a free market fundamentalist or a GOP apparatchik, although their thought patterns are as intrinsically disordered as the worst liars for Jesus.

IMO it’s a mistake to take all instances of people believing what they want to believe for stupid/evil ends and shoehorning that into a religious context.

It’s also true that there are religious believers who don’t use their religion as a crutch to support believing stupid/evil things that they want to believe, and it is severely insulting to deny this.

Atheists are a minority, and it is politically stupid for a minority to take a scorched-earth position in absolute opposition to all forms and manifestations of religion. E.g., we don’t get separation of church and state in the US unless it has respectable (near 50% or better) support from Christians.

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William Lewis  May 11, 2020 • 10:13:36pm

re: #179 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

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Dread Pirate  May 11, 2020 • 10:17:06pm
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Targetpractice  May 11, 2020 • 10:23:01pm

#AskChina is trending, so wingnuts are responding in their time-(dis)honored tradition: They’re screaming that to point out racism is itself a racist act and anyway, it totally wasn’t racism to tell an Asian American reporter twice to “Ask China” in response to a question that had nothing to do with China.

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thecommodore  May 11, 2020 • 10:23:46pm

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thecommodore  May 11, 2020 • 10:33:27pm

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Below the featured comments on the fundraiser’s description is a flag icon. Click that and it takes you to the report page.

GoFundMe notes that for the type of report, criminal activity is to be reported as “fraud” from the drop-down choices in one of the fields.

You will need the link both to get to the fundraiser, and for the form. It is behind the privacy bar.

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William Lewis  May 11, 2020 • 10:34:05pm

re: #179 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

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goddamnedfrank  May 11, 2020 • 10:55:52pm
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austin_blue  May 11, 2020 • 11:09:31pm

81,795 deaths per Worldometer right now.

20,443 Benghazis. All under Trump’s watch.

Senate/Congressional investigations? Zero.

Granted, the HoR is busy trying to keep the country paid and fed, but this whole situation is appalling.

Night all.

Good luck tomorrow.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2020 • 11:19:31pm
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Dr Lizardo  May 11, 2020 • 11:42:50pm

Trump is getting increasingly nervous about his re-election prospects.

As Trump debates who should lead his campaign, he’s also struggling to settle on a 2020 strategy. Some advisers are lobbying Trump to embrace the reopening. “They’re going to gamble on the economy and hope it works,” a former West Wing official said. But another camp is pushing the view that Trump should run on a blame-China message. On top of everything, there is also fear in Trumpworld that Senate Republicans might finally break from him if the polls get bad enough. “The numbers are fucking terrible,” another former West Wing official said. “There’s massive anxiety in the GOP that he’s gonna take them all down with him.”

vanityfair.com

Personally, I love these warm-and-fuzzy feelgood stories every now and then. It’s a welcome change from all the doom and gloom lately.

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Targetpractice  May 12, 2020 • 12:21:38am

re: #190 Dr Lizardo

Trump is getting increasingly nervous about his re-election prospects.

vanityfair.com

Personally, I love these warm-and-fuzzy feelgood stories every now and then. It’s a welcome change from all the doom and gloom lately.

They spent the first 2.5 months of the year hoping that their gamble (downplaying the virus in order to avoid spooking the markets) would work and instead 80,000+ are dead and UE has spiked to nearly 15%. So what better way to go forward than to roll the dice again, only this time on the belief that “reopening” the country in total contravention of most every expert’s advice will wipe away all the economic damage and stall the death toll.

Gee, I can’t see how this guy ever managed to bankrupt a casino.///////

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EPR-radar  May 12, 2020 • 12:38:35am

re: #191 Targetpractice

They spent the first 2.5 months of the year hoping that their gamble (downplaying the virus in order to avoid spooking the markets) would work and instead 80,000+ are dead and UE has spiked to nearly 15%. So what better way to go forward than to roll the dice again, only this time on the belief that “reopening” the country in total contravention of most every expert’s advice will wipe away all the economic damage and stall the death toll.

Gee, I can’t see how this guy ever managed to bankrupt a casino.///////

To be fair, covid19 was a vicious curveball from Mother Nature. The shit had already hit the fan by the time it was clear that this wasn’t another SARS- or MERS-like outbreak that would be relatively easy to manage.

Of course, Trump’s response to this difficult situation has been pessimal.

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EPR-radar  May 12, 2020 • 12:40:59am

re: #190 Dr Lizardo

Trump is getting increasingly nervous about his re-election prospects.

vanityfair.com

Personally, I love these warm-and-fuzzy feelgood stories every now and then. It’s a welcome change from all the doom and gloom lately.

I do like the thought of a lame duck president Trump raging continually from Nov 2020 to Jan 2021 if he loses the election. The stress would probably do him in, and wouldn’t that be a shame.

But in that situation his minders will need to be damn sure he can’t get his tiny hands on the nuclear launch codes.

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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2020 • 12:45:26am

re: #190 Dr Lizardo

Trump is getting increasingly nervous about his re-election prospects.

vanityfair.com

Personally, I love these warm-and-fuzzy feelgood stories every now and then. It’s a welcome change from all the doom and gloom lately.

The funny thing is: among all of these shitty people coming under attack, it’s Kushner who has done the most damage. It doesn’t matter what he does or who he brings in as long as that fraudulent fuk is around.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 12:47:50am

re: #190 Dr Lizardo

Trump is getting increasingly nervous about his re-election prospects.

Their final play will be to disrupt the election process to the extent that the results are inconclusive and then declare themselves winners.

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Targetpractice  May 12, 2020 • 12:50:03am

re: #192 EPR-radar

To be fair, covid19 was a vicious curveball from Mother Nature. The shit had already hit the fan by the time it was clear that this wasn’t another SARS- or MERS-like outbreak that would be relatively easy to manage.

Of course, Trump’s response to this difficult situation has been pessimal.

The problem (for Trump) with such an approach is that the past few weeks have seen the record fleshed out to show that the experts all told him to take precautions and he blew them off for fear that the economy would dip. “Nobody could have seen this coming” doesn’t really work when people did see it coming and you decided to play golf and hold rallies where you called the whole thing a “hoax.”

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Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2020 • 12:52:06am

re: #193 EPR-radar

I do like the thought of a lame duck president Trump raging continually from Nov 2020 to Jan 2021 if he loses the election. The stress would probably do him in, and wouldn’t that be a shame.

But in that situation his minders will need to be damn sure he can’t get his tiny hands on the nuclear launch codes.

For me at least, a lame-duck President Trump is likely going to be when he’s at his most dangerous. He’d reckon he’s got nothing to lose - and heaven only knows what kind of fuckery he’d try to pull in that time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 12:53:10am

re: #196 Targetpractice

The problem (for Trump) with such an approach is that the past few weeks have seen the record fleshed out to show that the experts all told him to take precautions and he blew them off for fear that the economy would dip. “Nobody could have seen this coming” doesn’t really work when people did see it coming and you decided to play golf and hold rallies where you called the whole thing a “hoax.”

again, because DT’s tunnel vision saw Covid only as a threat to the economy and and consequently to his re-election chances, which would have been good if the economy was humming, unemployment down and the stock market up.

he did not understand that a nation will rally around a President in a crisis, no matter what happens to the economy, if he is showing strong and resolute leadership.

but that is way beyond his capabilities or even comprehension.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 12, 2020 • 12:59:58am

Giuseppe Martucci - Piano Quintet in C-major, Op.45 (1878)

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Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2020 • 1:02:13am

Trump’s abysmal response to this pandemic would be the stuff of black comedy if there weren’t such tragedy and death around it.

I wonder how Trump will react if someone close to him ends up intubated in an ICU? Part of me could see him going full-on Howard Hughes, retreating to Mar-a-Lago, barricaded behind a labyrinth of locked doors and security guards and living on Big Macs, Diet Coke and candy bars.

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RinaX  May 12, 2020 • 1:05:50am

re: #168 Jack Burton

I’m not an expert by any means but I’m getting the feeling that we will hit that second wave in stride by the end of June or around the 4th of July (Imagine Clownstick’s meltdown if he can’t have a Nürnburg Reichsparteitag on the 4th) at that point deaths-per-day nationwide will be likely higher than the peak in April was and accelerating. I might be being optimistic though. Could be earlier and worse.

I’m having trouble seeing how much longer after that point the clowns can pretend “opening up” was a good idea. If things haven’t already started to turn around by November, it will be fucking a apocalyptic bloodbath and in the millions (multi) of deaths. If wave 2 has a August/September-ish peak, maaaaaaybe the number of deaths can be kept under 1 million.

Again, I’m not an expert. Just a reasonably intelligent person with a degree in Computer Science and a genuine interest in all areas of science who’s really tired of bullshit.

I’m not an expert, either, but I believe we will see a lull over the next month or so. I think Memorial day is a date a lot of people will really start letting their guard down. We’ll start seeing the impact of that by August.

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EPR-radar  May 12, 2020 • 1:19:32am

re: #201 RinaX

I’m not an expert, either, but I believe we will see a lull over the next month or so. I think Memorial day is a date a lot of people will really start letting their guard down. We’ll start seeing the impact of that by August.

Looking ahead to summer, obvious trouble spots will include heat waves (where people without home AC will need to seek shelter from the heat) and hurricane season.

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Dread Pirate  May 12, 2020 • 1:24:48am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 12, 2020 • 2:18:22am

So what’s the chance that Trump retweets this?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 2:22:03am

re: #204 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

- Fauci Emails NY Times Reporter With Warning of ‘Needless Suffering and Death’ in Opening Country ‘Prematurely’

He just wants to be on record as having opposed White House policy on this matter

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 12, 2020 • 2:22:40am
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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2020 • 3:06:48am

re: #204 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So what’s the chance that Trump retweets this?

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Targetpractice  May 12, 2020 • 3:23:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 3:27:49am

re: #208 Targetpractice

*pours out a little on the ground for Bryan Adams’ career*

This is a guy with the 10,000,000-selling album “Waking up the Neighbours” who then bought a house in a posh district of London and tried to sue the local pub for noise disruption…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 12, 2020 • 3:29:00am

re: #200 Dr Lizardo

Trump’s abysmal response to this pandemic would be the stuff of black comedy if there weren’t such tragedy and death around it.

I wonder how Trump will react if someone close to him ends up intubated in an ICU? Part of me could see him going full-on Howard Hughes, retreating to Mar-a-Lago, barricaded behind a labyrinth of locked doors and security guards and living on Big Macs, Diet Coke and candy bars.

Ivanka. That would trigger him big time.

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Dave In Austin  May 12, 2020 • 3:49:12am

Morning Lab Rats!

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2020 • 3:53:52am

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Their final play will be to disrupt the election process to the extent that the results are inconclusive and then declare themselves winners.

It’s possible we wake up in February with no recognized president or administration. At that point we are Venezuela.

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Dave In Austin  May 12, 2020 • 4:14:25am

Torn Apart | Joe Biden for President

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Shropshire Slasher  May 12, 2020 • 4:20:13am

I think I’ll skip breffist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 4:28:48am

re: #212 Decatur Deb

It’s possible we wake up in February with no recognized president or administration. At that point we are Venezuela.

As far as I understand, if the outcome of the election is not clear, then the rules of Succession apply. Trump does not get to remain on by default after his term ends.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 4:30:20am

re: #213 Dave In Austin

Trump defended himself by stating that he sees himself as a businessman and those pandemic response people were just sitting around doing nothing useful.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2020 • 4:32:15am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As far as I understand, if the outcome of the election is not clear, then the rules of Succession apply. Trump does not get to remain on by default after his term ends.

Not suggesting Trump, but no one in charge. The bastards can fill the waters with squid ink. Their art is to destroy credibility in all institutions. That’s the apparent answer to decaying CV19 numbers—make the data unreliable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 4:35:41am

re: #217 Decatur Deb

Not suggesting Trump, but no one in charge. The bastards can fill the waters with squid ink. Their art is to destroy credibility in all institutions. That’s the apparent answer to decaying CV19 numbers—make the data unreliable.

The less likely the chance of them winning it within the rules of the system then the more likely they will do everything to weaken or dismantle the system so they can just declare themselves winners.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2020 • 4:37:34am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The less likely the chance of them winning it within the rules of the system then the more likely they will do everything to weaken or dismantle the system so they can just declare themselves winners.

And they have 50 million willing collaborators.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 4:38:13am

re: #117 Hecuba’s daughter

Number of new cases nationwide has fallen below 20,000 for the first time since March 28th and number of deaths were about 1,000. Let’s see if this decline is real and continues over the next few weeks.

I’m quite skeptical of these numbers, of any numbers right now.

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jeffreyw  May 12, 2020 • 4:40:18am

Good morning!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 4:44:06am

re: #133 jaunte

One thing to add: these large numbers start to depersonalize the losses. Each of these was a father, a mother, a child, traumatic pain caused by a gap in each family that lost a member. A future that won’t be realized.

I’d like to see a constant scroll of names of the dead 24/7 on every news report.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2020 • 4:44:19am

re: #220 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m quite skeptical of these numbers, of any numbers right now.

There’s a pretty obvious cycle in the numbers. The trick is to make the lows lower and the highs not as high. (See the bar charts under the state breakouts.)
worldometers.info

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 4:49:09am

I still recall Trump’s early quote about how “I like the numbers the way they are”

He was signalling to his people to make sure and tweak them to his favor wherever possible.

But forget, it, we cannot even agree about photographs of the crowds at his inauguration, when it comes to interpreting statistics, any discussion is pointless…

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2020 • 4:50:09am

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Pointlessness is the product.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 4:54:31am

re: #157 Renaissance_Man

All of America will, to be honest. The losses really are just too large, too difficult to comprehend. It impacts my daily professional life and I can’t even really process 80,000 dead in two months.

There are not that many people in the US who have lived through truly massive loss of life. I am pressed to think of many examples since WWII - the Khmer Rouge, Idi Amin, and Rwanda come to mind, but there aren’t that many Americans that have had things like this happen around them. Americans accept staggering amounts of gun violence and death, and this appears no different.

America’s aristocrats are counting on this. They’re counting on people simply not caring about their neighbours. They’re counting on people not caring that others die to get them a haircut or their chicken nuggets. They’re counting on people not caring enough to question that the nation somehow goes from two thousand deaths a day to basically none within a week or two, and not caring if they just stop reporting deaths. That’s one of the main purposes of US media, to give people any flimsy excuse not to care.

What’s going to hurt Republicans is that it’s not “too difficult to understand” when you originally know someone who’s died. When you know someone who’s a first responder, when you’ve seen what’s happening. You can dismiss it when you’re not involved but as this continues to infect people, you’re going to eventually be with that Six Degrees of…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 4:59:24am

re: #178 Targetpractice

I think what we’re gonna see is that “Obamagate” is every bit the dud that past efforts to “investigate the investigators.” That it will be another “looks bad” report, comprised almost entirely of “crimes” that amount to pushing DOJ rules to their breaking point but never outright breaking the law. And the usual round of “What did Obama know and when did he know it?!” and similar “questions” that “the American people have.” A sea of furrowed brows and mutterings about “concern” and being “disturbed.”

But when actually pressed, they’ll all shy away from actually supporting criminal charges/trials and stop short of actually saying that any of it “exonerates” Donny.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 5:04:20am

re: #205 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He just wants to be on record as having opposed White House policy on this matter

Which makes me wonder how sick he may be. He’s self-isolating right now.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 5:05:34am

re: #210 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Ivanka. That would trigger him big time.

Maybe. When it comes right down to it, only him personally getting sick would matter.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 5:07:45am

re: #223 Decatur Deb

There’s a pretty obvious cycle in the numbers. The trick is to make the lows lower and the highs not as high. (See the bar charts under the state breakouts.)
worldometers.info

My issue is with what’s being reported. If states don’t do reporting well, what do the numbers mean?

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Dave In Austin  May 12, 2020 • 5:09:34am

re: #220 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Depends whether those numbers include NY or not. It’s on its way to a semblance of recovery. If you take them out of the equation the thing changes. It’s just starting to effect Fly Over County.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 5:15:39am

re: #231 Dave In Austin

Depends whether those numbers include NY or not. It’s on its way to a semblance of recovery. If you take them out of the equation the thing changes. It’s just starting to effect Fly Over County.

So while NY and CA reports real numbers, TX, FL and other red states report what? How are numbers determined to report? That’s the numbers game in referring to.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 5:18:46am

re: #180 EPR-radar

People often believe what they want to believe, usually with stupid and evil results. But this can be done in both religious and non-religious contexts. E.g., there really isn’t anything more secular than a free market fundamentalist or a GOP apparatchik, although their thought patterns are as intrinsically disordered as the worst liars for Jesus.

I will address the subject only once here, then go back to bed.

I don’t normally use dictionary definitional arguments, but I will here. Religion is a social-cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, morals, worldviews, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations.

Just because they’re lying for Ayn Rand doesn’t make it any less of a religion than lying for Jesus. Just because they lie about Adam Smith doesn’t either.

Conservatism is every one of those things.

IMO it’s a mistake to take all instances of people believing what they want to believe for stupid/evil ends and shoehorning that into a religious context.

Sure, doing something out of conviction and being wrong is not a religion. Doing it in the face of facts that show they are wrong and throwing out the facts is.

It’s also true that there are religious believers who don’t use their religion as a crutch to support believing stupid/evil things that they want to believe, and it is severely insulting to deny this.

Fallacy of composition argument, equivalent to NotAllMen. Strawman: I didn’t assert that. Lots of people do good things who are religious. Point to where I said they did not. I have already pointed out in the past where people like Rev. William Barber and Bishop Talbert Swan have called out bigots and free-market worshippers (the term “free-market worship” is often used even here, worship being a fundamentally religious act).

Atheists are a minority, …

Yup, it is said we are the largest group it is okay to discriminate against in the USA. We are a larger group than any ethnic minority in the Democratic party.

You know what other minorities did? They spoke out. They organised. They would not take “no” for lesser treatment under the law. They are still speaking out.

… and it is politically stupid for a minority to take a scorched-earth position in absolute opposition to all forms and manifestations of religion. E.g., we don’t get separation of church and state in the US unless it has respectable (near 50% or better) support from Christians.

Motte and bailey fallacy, and a strawman. I was not taking a “scorched Earth” policy in “absolute opposition to all forms and manifestations of religion.” Atheists are generally amongst the biggest supporters of Freedom of Religion (amongst other things, that protects us in our lack of belief). I pointed out how conservatism acts like a religion.

I didn’t oust my Lutheran and Methodist family members from my life because they are religious. They did it to me because I am an atheist. My Presbyterian ex-wife divorced me because I’m possessed by demons (have epilepsy) and the Florida courts allowed her to use that argument, took everything I had, and made me homeless.

Unless an atheist was raised in a non-religious home, nearly every atheist in this country has a personal story about being cut off by some or all family members and friends simply because they don’t believe the same. How is this different from conservatism? Perhaps you should ask Joe Bacon about that.

Try an experiment: Tell your religious family members or friends you are an atheist. See what happens when you do.

This has nothing to do with what I advanced, that conservatism is a religion. It behaves like one. It is trying to drag us back into the Dark Ages like one.

We already have separation of Church and State in the USA. It is not my fault if Christians are lawbreakers. They are the ones trying to tear out separation from the Constitution. They have done it ever since the founding of the Republic.

California US representative Eric Swalwell defeated Pete Stark in his primary by casting Stark as un-American for being an atheist. State senator Megan Hunt outed herself as an atheist in a candidate questionnaire because she wanted to cut off attacks from Democrats, not Republicans. She saw what happened to Stark. (Our state has the most open atheists serving in the state legislature, two, her and Ernie Chambers.)

Funny how that’s not how it worked for the Civil Rights Act. The overwhelming majority at the time did not support it. Conservatives capitalised on that with their racist Southern Strategy. At the time Loving v Virginia was decided, the majority of whites though such marriages should be a crime, and they were in many states. (Interestingly, so did a significant minority of blacks.) Only decades later did disapproval drop below 50%.

news.gallup.com

I guess your argument here is the Lovings shouldn’t have bucked the system, because they were in an overwhelming minority of opinion.

But somehow we who are also discriminated against are just supposed to sit down and take whatever crumbs the majority throws our way. (You know, or we could demand our rights be respected. That gets you tagged “militant atheist” for demanding what everyone else gets by default.)

I’ve used the example of women protecting themselves from strange men they meet on the street by putting all men in the category of “threat” until shown otherwise. (It only takes one to have a really bad day.) I’ve also used the example of what happens if my local store chooses to try to ban me because I don’t believe the same as the proprietor. (Sure I could sue him, and the effect after I got “out-of-state agitators” on board to defend my rights would be to put him out of business and be hated by the whole community—they’re the folks who would rather have a Nazi in office than an atheist.)

I realise you don’t see the oppression of conservatism as religious in nature. Those of us who are not religious at all see the same tools and the same oppression and the same fervent belief they hold that their ideology is right and cannot fail, only be failed. They didn’t believe in conservatism hard enough, or were “not true conservatives.”

Back to bed.

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Dave In Austin  May 12, 2020 • 5:20:20am

re: #232 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Garbage with a hint of truth to them. No doubt.
One of the evening shows was showing this the other nite. Middle America is definitely on the upswing due to the meat packers non action. We won’t get to the bottom of the numbers game until there’s a change in the Executive Branch

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 12, 2020 • 5:27:14am

re: #113 Disloyal Archangel

I mentioned here a few weeks ago using stadiums as a gauge of the number of deaths as they kept going up.

What will be the scary part is when the largest US stadium threshold is passed, then you start all over again from the bottom up.

But perhaps an even more devastating number is to use the stadium capacity as a gauge of the number infected - and that number right now would easily chew up the top 10-15 stadiums.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 5:31:45am

re: #207 Barefoot Grin

Bill Mitchell? Last week he was telling his followers to pray hard because he was dy…nevermind.

From cancer no less. But he got better …

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lawhawk  May 12, 2020 • 5:45:00am

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Mythbusters did the same thing with a common cold. They had Adam act as if he had a runny nose, attached a canula so that it would mimic a runny nose, and the fluid was a UV sensitive dye. He then had 6 people sit around a table playing cards, and every last one except Keri got hit by Adam in some form or another, or got passed from one of the others.

But when everyone social distanced and minimized contact, all got less or no UV dye.

This is all pretty well documented stuff.

And it’s another reason to skip the buffet and skip cruise ships. Mind you, I love a good Chinese or sushi buffet for the variety but after all this, not sure how that works even with the sneeze guards present.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 5:45:44am

re: #235 Eric The Fruit Bat

I mentioned here a few weeks ago using stadiums as a gauge of the number of deaths as they kept going up.

What will be the scary part is when the largest US stadium threshold is passed, then you start all over again from the bottom up.

But perhaps an even more devastating number is to use the stadium capacity as a gauge of the number infected - and that number right now would easily chew up the top 10-15 stadiums.

Needs arrows pointing to Mom, Uncle Dave, Neighbor, Doctor, Cop.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 5:46:09am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

From cancer no less. But he got better …

It’s a miracle! 🙄

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 5:48:51am

re: #237 lawhawk

And it’s another reason to skip the buffet and skip cruise ships. Mind you, I love a good Chinese or sushi buffet for the variety but after all this, not sure how that works even with the sneeze guards present.

Only with servers doling out the food. One person touching the utensils. Kind of like how they do the “prime rib” now.

(I had to put prime rib in quotes because blech.)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 5:52:04am
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Disloyal Archangel  May 12, 2020 • 5:52:27am
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Danack  May 12, 2020 • 6:04:05am

re: #241 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Hippos are terrifying:

Hippo Charge on Chobe River Jan2015, recorded with iPhone 6; Botswana, Awesome but crazy dangerous.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 6:05:02am

re: #243 Danack

Hippos are terrifying:

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I know. But Fiona…❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2020 • 6:06:07am
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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2020 • 6:11:04am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 6:13:06am
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Jay C  May 12, 2020 • 6:32:37am

re: #247 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

An example of South Korea’s extremely effective COVID containment strategy. Do we even have the ability to do this kind of cell phone blast?

Well, no.

No “ability” - since SK is, IIRC, one of the most “wired” countries in the world, and the US is still lacking in even adequate Internet service in a good many places (as Anymouse can, and frequently does, attest); and cellphone usage is FAR from universal, in any case.

And besides, we seem to be populated with an above-average percentages of self-absorbed dumbshits whose first response to a cellphone “blast” is likely to be outrage like “how did they get my number???” and/or “GOVERNMENT SPYING!!1!11!!”…..

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 6:33:10am
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Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 6:34:47am

re: #242 Disloyal Archangel

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BigPapa  May 12, 2020 • 6:34:59am

Trumpers: ‘The President has absolute power’
Also Trumpers: ‘The previous President investigated Trump unlawfully’
The jokes write themselves.

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Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 6:36:54am

re: #248 Jay C

Well, no.

No “ability” - since SK is, IIRC, one of the most “wired” countries in the world, and the US is still lacking in even adequate Internet service in a good many places (as Anymouse can, and frequently does, attest); and cellphone usage is FAR from universal, in any case.

And besides, we seem to be populated with an above-average percentages of self-absorbed dumbshits whose first response to a cellphone “blast” is likely to be outrage like “how did they get my number???” and/or “GOVERNMENT SPYING!!1!11!!”…..

Including people here. Think of how people reacted to the cell companies saving information before.

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Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 6:41:10am
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jeffreyw  May 12, 2020 • 6:43:48am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 6:53:16am

re: #233 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

What. Anymouse. Said. Period.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 6:56:29am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 6:58:26am

re: #253 Belafon

Biden statistically tied with Trump in Ohio—a state that demographically has been changing in favor of Republicans for years. If Biden improves on traditional Dem numbers with older whites nationally, hard to see how Trump pulls it out

assuming that anything about the 2020 election will be normal, predictable or anything like other US elections. I am guessing that it will not be the case, the GOP have to much to gain from sowing chaos and disrupting the electoral process so they can cast doubts on the outcome.

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BigPapa  May 12, 2020 • 6:58:38am

Hammering the point home: People don’t trust Trump yet more people give him a job approval rating.

Most of those who give him a positive job approval know he is lying all the time.

When Bannon said Flood the zone with shit it was an encapsulation of their raison d’etre.

The lying is a feature, not a bug.

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 7:00:00am
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Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 7:06:24am

re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

assuming that anything about the 2020 election will be normal, predictable or anything like other US elections. I am guessing that it will not be the case, the GOP have to much to gain from sowing chaos and disrupting the electoral process so they can cast doubts on the outcome.

There is no configuration of wins that the GOP won’t cast doubt on the outcome. It’s useless worrying about it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 7:06:36am

re: #259 jaunte

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I got a sinking feeling the die has been cast and Roberts will put Party before Country.

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Schroedinger's Dog  May 12, 2020 • 7:06:38am

Listening to the SCOTUS arguments right now. The arguments being presented by Trump’s team are pretty specious.

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Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 7:07:47am

re: #261 Joe Bacon 🌹

I got a sinking feeling the die has been cast and Roberts will put Party before Country.

Which, if Roberts does have a brain, will have to include the calculus of “Biden will be president in November.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 7:08:12am

re: #260 Belafon

There is no configuration of wins that the GOP won’t cast doubt on the outcome. It’s useless worrying about it.

Their goal will be to fuck it up beyond any recognizability or credibility…and I am sure they are pursuing that as a strategy as Trump’s numbers tank and his mind unravels.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 7:08:12am

re: #259 jaunte

I kinda have a massive crush on Ian. ❤️❤️

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 12, 2020 • 7:11:03am

re: #247 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Shit. Imagine the don’t tread on me assholes if we even proposed this.

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danarchy  May 12, 2020 • 7:12:08am

re: #248 Jay C

Well, no.

No “ability” - since SK is, IIRC, one of the most “wired” countries in the world, and the US is still lacking in even adequate Internet service in a good many places (as Anymouse can, and frequently does, attest); and cellphone usage is FAR from universal, in any case.

I was wondering how far from universal so I did a little lookup. There are nearly 280 million cell phone subscriptions in the US. When you take out young children of which there are about 50 million, that is pretty ubiquitous. I know there are some folks who have a work and personal phone

Apparently 96% of US adults have either a smart phone or basic cell phone.

US cell usage
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Schroedinger's Dog  May 12, 2020 • 7:12:40am

Thomas sounds skeptical.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 7:13:13am

re: #267 danarchy

I was wondering how far from universal so I did a little lookup. There are nearly 280 million cell phone subscriptions in the US. When you take out young children of which there are about 50 million, that is pretty ubiquitous. I know there are some folks who have a work and personal phone

Apparently 96% of US adults have either a smart phone or basic cell phone.

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land lines are mainly there for Internet connections these days

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 7:21:04am

re: #268 Schroedinger’s Dog

Thomas sounds skeptical.

They will find a One Time thing to allow trump anything, much like Bush v Gore.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 12, 2020 • 7:26:38am

re: #263 Belafon

Which, if Roberts does have a brain, will have to include the calculus of “Biden will be president in November.”

Not if he can help it.

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Jay C  May 12, 2020 • 7:26:50am

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Their goal will be to fuck it up beyond any recognizability or credibility…and I am sure they are pursuing that as a strategy as Trump’s numbers tank and his mind unravels.

And, like so many other GOP “goals”, probably unlikely to be reached.
The problem, for them, is that voting in elections (Presidential on down) is run by the states - and not all the states’ election systems, even in some “red” ones, are so fundamentally partisan/dishonest as to “fuck up” - or in some cases, even be able to fuck up the results. Especially if the race is a blowout.

That isn’t to say, of course, that they won’t TRY to “game the system” - say, by enacting/enforcing (disgracefully legal) voter-suppression measures (restrictive ID requirements, curtailing “oppo” polling opportunities, etc.): but it’s questionable, IMO, exactly how effective such measures might be.

Naturally, when Trump loses in November (whether by squeaker or blue-tsunami), he and his creatures are going to start - and keep - howling FRAUD!!! RIGGED!!! STOLEN!!!! to the nth degree: but after the Electoral College “meets” in December, it will be GAME OVER. And the main thing then will be to try to curtail (or at least figure out how to remedy) the damage the Trump regime will be doing on its way out..

Except for the wave of pardons, of course: not sure what can be done about those.

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Jay C  May 12, 2020 • 7:29:18am

re: #267 danarchy

Apparently 96% of US adults have either a smart phone or basic cell phone.

Wow. Thanks for the info, I really did not know cell usage in the US was that pervasive.

Still doesn’t affect peoples’ attitudes, IMO, but it’s something.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 7:32:34am

re: #272 Jay C

And, like so many other GOP “goals”, probably unlikely to be reached.
The problem, for them, is that voting in elections (Presidential on down) is run by the states - and not all the states’ election systems (even in some “red” ones) are so fundamentally partisan/dishonest as to “fuck up” - or in some cases, even able to fuck up the results. Especially if the race is a blowout.

They knew exactly how and where to focus their efforts in 2016 (namely in PA, MI, WI and OH) and succeeded in overcoming a nearly 3-million vote disadvantage.

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 7:34:24am
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mmmirele  May 12, 2020 • 7:36:33am

Blergh…first world problems.

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teleskiguy  May 12, 2020 • 7:36:34am

The working theory that when Fuckface Von Clownstick is worried about the future, thinks his prospects in life are dire, he tweets like an anxious teenager - that is, over and over and over - seems to be bearing fruit. His Twitter is a mess. RTs of Epoch Times, slimy attacks on Joe Scarborough, RTs of Rose McGowan accusing Bill Maher of sexual harassment, more OBAMAGATE, and praise for himself at the tremendous great bigly job he’s done with the pandemic. His mind is a mess.

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 7:36:35am

Trump’s counsel trying to make the president is a king argument without using the K word.

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 7:39:16am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2020 • 7:40:02am

re: #248 Jay C

Well, no.

No “ability” - since SK is, IIRC, one of the most “wired” countries in the world, and the US is still lacking in even adequate Internet service in a good many places (as Anymouse can, and frequently does, attest); and cellphone usage is FAR from universal, in any case.

And besides, we seem to be populated with an above-average percentages of self-absorbed dumbshits whose first response to a cellphone “blast” is likely to be outrage like “how did they get my number???” and/or “GOVERNMENT SPYING!!1!11!!”…..

THIS.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 7:40:31am

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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No shit, Sherlock. Deflect, deny, anything to defend a religious faith against a countervailing fact.

No one said it was food borne
It’s the circumstances
Close proximity, multi people touching the same things, then their faces

But please you do you

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 12, 2020 • 7:40:38am

re: #221 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 7:43:48am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 7:47:19am

re: #65 The Pie Overlord!

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PS Mitch weren’t you send Maj leader under Obama (Merrick garland)
I mean you were there in that admin weren’t you?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 12, 2020 • 7:47:53am

re: #268 Schroedinger’s Dog

Thomas sounds skeptical.

Thomas asked ANOTHER question?

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 12, 2020 • 7:48:13am

re: #237 lawhawk

And it’s another reason to skip the buffet and skip cruise ships. Mind you, I love a good Chinese or sushi buffet for the variety but after all this, not sure how that works even with the sneeze guards present.

Cruise ships close the self-service buffet, and a gloved server hands you your plate and utensils, when they have noro aboard, as soon as it reaches a certain (small) number.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 7:49:30am

re: #276 mmmirele

Blergh…first world problems.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 12, 2020 • 7:50:55am

After a federal judge enjoined Gov. Beshear’s ban on mass gatherings in churches, a church had a members only service with no social distancing, no face masks, and the pastor laying hands on congregants and giving a sermon full of wingnuttery. state-journal.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 7:52:20am

re: #285 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

PS Mitch weren’t you send Maj leader under Obama (Merrick garland)
I mean you were there in that admin weren’t you?

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 7:53:52am
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Dr. Matt  May 12, 2020 • 7:56:49am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2020 • 7:57:26am

Even if the Obama Admin didn’t leave them a gameplan (which of course we know is total bullshit), he hasn’t been President for over THREE FUCKING YEARS NOW. Seems to me that would be plenty of time for the Trump Admin to come up with THEIR OWN GAME PLAN for something like this.

This is multiple levels of fail, Mitch.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 12, 2020 • 7:58:03am

re: #291 jaunte

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If Trump can’t even get Alito and Kavanaugh on board, he is in deep trouble.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 12, 2020 • 7:59:06am

re: #293 Eclectic Cyborg

Even if the Obama Admin didn’t leave them a gameplan (which of course we know is total bullshit), he hasn’t been President for over THREE FUCKING YEARS NOW. Seems to me that would be plenty of time for the Trump Admin to come up with THEIR OWN GAME PLAN for something like this.

This is multiple levels of fail, Mitch.

Mitch doesn’t care. Being shameless is his superpower.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 7:59:15am

re: #217 Decatur Deb

Not suggesting Trump, but no one in charge. The bastards can fill the waters with squid ink. Their art is to destroy credibility in all institutions. That’s the apparent answer to decaying CV19 numbers—make the data unreliable.

one way or another the states will choose their electors in december
then the ec will meet and they will vote

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lizardofid  May 12, 2020 • 7:59:32am

Good morning!

Sharif is happy, because he beat Casper to the best limb, but a little bit sad, because his tail feathers are starting to look a little rough.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2020 • 8:01:06am

re: #292 Dr. Matt

How I WISH that conversation had gone:

WH: Hey there, the President is interested in visiting your factory and seeing all the good work you guys are doing. We were thinking we could set something up for maybe Friday morning, get some good press heading into the weekend?

Factory: We might be able to arrange something. Are the President and his people going to be wearing masks while they are here?

WH: *Laughs* No, of course not. We can’t have that. He’d go nuts.

F: ….

F: Fuck you. *CLICK*

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Dr. Matt  May 12, 2020 • 8:01:11am

re: #241 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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That’s one of my favorite twitter accounts. Great stuff.

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Dr. Matt  May 12, 2020 • 8:03:11am

re: #298 Eclectic Cyborg

Can’t wait for 1) Donnie to desperately spin this as it was his decision not to go…because…., 2) the rage tweet meltdown against the factory including blaming Gates, Soros, and Obama.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 12, 2020 • 8:03:42am

re: #296 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

one way or another the states will choose their electors in december
then the ec will meet and they will vote

My nightmare scenario: The GOP backs up Trump’s claim of massive voter fraud, and two sets of electoral votes are sent to Congress, one in which Trump has at least 270 electoral votes, many from states he didn’t actually win. Trump claims he was reelected, and refuses to cooperate with the transition, while Barr tries to make a case to arrest Biden for “voter fraud.”

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:04:24am

That Alito is quite a sophist.

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:05:21am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:05:46am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 8:07:34am

re: #245 Patricia Kayden

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and remember trump isn’t really in this
his accounting firm is

he’s not being asked to do anything
he sued as a third party

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The Pie Overlord!  May 12, 2020 • 8:08:19am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 8:08:50am

re: #247 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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‘the battle against an epidemic is all about speed’

only if your goal is to contain it

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 8:10:08am

re: #251 BigPapa

Trumpers: ‘The President has absolute power’
Also Trumpers: ‘The previous President investigated Trump unlawfully’
The jokes write themselves.

no one thought the president had absolute power until i was elected and pointed it out
so the previous president didnt

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Mike Lamb  May 12, 2020 • 8:11:08am

re: #306 The Pie Overlord!

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That Tweet is really something.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 12, 2020 • 8:12:00am

Heh. I know this isn’t what he meant, but the idiot will never learn that words sometimes have multiple meanings.

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:12:07am

“You have to know someone is a criminal before you use a subpoena” argument being floated now. By a Supreme Court Justice.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2020 • 8:13:34am

re: #311 jaunte

“You have to know someone is a criminal before you use a subpoena” argument being floated now. By a Supreme Court Justice.

What the actual fucking fuck?

This had to be Kavanagh, right? (EDIT: Apparently it was Gorsuch. I was close)

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:13:59am
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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:14:50am

re: #312 Eclectic Cyborg

IANAL but that sounds absurd to me.

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Teddy's Person  May 12, 2020 • 8:14:54am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 8:15:07am

re: #272 Jay C

And, like so many other GOP “goals”, probably unlikely to be reached.
The problem, for them, is that voting in elections (Presidential on down) is run by the states - and not all the states’ election systems, even in some “red” ones, are so fundamentally partisan/dishonest as to “fuck up” - or in some cases, even be able to fuck up the results. Especially if the race is a blowout.

That isn’t to say, of course, that they won’t TRY to “game the system” - say, by enacting/enforcing (disgracefully legal) voter-suppression measures (restrictive ID requirements, curtailing “oppo” polling opportunities, etc.): but it’s questionable, IMO, exactly how effective such measures might be.

Naturally, when Trump loses in November (whether by squeaker or blue-tsunami), he and his creatures are going to start - and keep - howling FRAUD!!! RIGGED!!! STOLEN!!!! to the nth degree: but after the Electoral College “meets” in December, it will be GAME OVER. And the main thing then will be to try to curtail (or at least figure out how to remedy) the damage the Trump regime will be doing on its way out..

Except for the wave of pardons, of course: not sure what can be done about those.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 8:16:35am

re: #278 jaunte

Trump’s counsel trying to make the president is a king argument without using the K word.

… yet

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:17:16am
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Mike Lamb  May 12, 2020 • 8:18:09am

re: #306 The Pie Overlord!

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:19:06am
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teleskiguy  May 12, 2020 • 8:19:27am
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Disloyal Archangel  May 12, 2020 • 8:20:33am

re: #310 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Heh. I know this isn’t what he meant, but the idiot will never learn that words sometimes have multiple meanings.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2020 • 8:20:35am

re: #315 Teddy’s Person

Can I take a wild guess at the gender and/or skin color of the “have nots”?

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:21:35am
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sagehen  May 12, 2020 • 8:22:24am

re: #286 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Thomas asked ANOTHER question?

So Thomas today asked more questions than in the entire 10 years previous?

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:22:44am

re: #325 sagehen

Goal line defense.

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:23:07am
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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:23:52am

“Harm” and “undue burden” to Trump = doing what every other candidate has done.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 8:24:30am

re: #301 NO SMOCKING GUN!

My nightmare scenario: The GOP backs up Trump’s claim of massive voter fraud, and two sets of electoral votes are sent to Congress, one in which Trump has at least 270 electoral votes, many from states he didn’t actually win. Trump claims he was reelected, and refuses to cooperate with the transition, while Barr tries to make a case to arrest Biden for “voter fraud.”

this has been gamed out by people much smarter than me

-each state gets to send one slate of electors.
-there could be some question how they are chosen - does the vote count, if not does the legislature step in, or the governor, depending on state law
- in the end though, each state sends just one slate, so there can’t be any question

and there arent enough red states to conspiratorially flip the numbers

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Citizen K  May 12, 2020 • 8:24:43am

re: #327 jaunte

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They’re going to give Trump the unlimited power he wants, aren’t they?

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:25:06am

re: #330 Citizen K

They’re trying their hardest to.

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:26:47am

Some of these arguments about “harassment” assume the President of the U.S., the head of the Executive Branch, has no staff to help him out.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 8:27:02am

re: #318 jaunte

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is what i said above. sheesh. and ianal

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Teddy's Person  May 12, 2020 • 8:28:12am

re: #332 jaunte

Some of these arguments about “harassment” assume the President of the U.S., the head of the Executive Branch, has no staff to help him out.

They also assume he’s not an elected official answerable to the people. Fuck them all.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 8:28:28am

re: #327 jaunte

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well considering he’s blanket refused to respond to ANY of them, i’d say no

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 8:30:46am

re: #328 jaunte

“Harm” and “undue burden” to Trump = doing what every other candidate has done anything other than golfing and giving campaign rallies.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 8:31:56am

Richard Wilkerson, a prominent donor to Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), writes in the Greenville News that he supported the senator until 2017 when he “started having real misgivings about him when he failed to mount any significant defense” of the late Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who President Trump frequently attacked.

Said Wilkerson: “I asked myself, ‘What is the character of a man who will not defend his best friend? If he won’t defend John McCain, why would I expect him to defend any of us in South Carolina?’”

Wilkerson is now endorsing Jamie Harrison (D) for Graham’s seat.

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steve_davis  May 12, 2020 • 8:32:08am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Below the featured comments on the fundraiser’s description is a flag icon. Click that and it takes you to the report page.

GoFundMe notes that for the type of report, criminal activity is to be reported as “fraud” from the drop-down choices in one of the fields.

You will need the link both to get to the fundraiser, and for the form. It is behind the privacy bar.

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I’m not a lawyer, but I don’t understand what I’m reporting. Fraud is not listed in a drop-down. I get a choice for “false statements” but that isn’t the issue. If they are raising money to support their legal costs for violating the ordinance, I’m not seeing how that’s fraud.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 8:32:22am
“Fox News stars are echoing President Trump’s call to ‘reopen the country’ and urging people to get back to work in the face of the coronavirus threat. But Fox’s offices won’t be opening up anytime soon,” CNN reports.

anyone surprised?

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Dr. Matt  May 12, 2020 • 8:33:20am

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 8:34:12am

weird but good news?

“President Trump is losing a critical constituency: voters who see two choices on the ballot — and hate them both,” Politico reports.

“It’s a significant and often underappreciated group of voters. Of the nearly 20% of voters who disliked both Clinton and Trump in 2016, Trump outperformed Clinton by about 17 percentage points, according to exit polls.”

“Four years later, that same group — including a mix of Bernie Sanders supporters, other Democrats, disaffected Republicans and independents — strongly prefers Biden, the polling shows. The former vice president leads Trump by more than 40 percentage points among that group.”

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Dr. Matt  May 12, 2020 • 8:34:55am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 8:34:59am

as goes florida, so goes nebraska

Hundreds of residents at Nebraska nursing homes have tested positive for the coronavirus — but Gov. Pete Ricketts (R) is refusing to identify the affected facilities, the Omaha World-Herald reports.

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:35:53am
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Citizen K  May 12, 2020 • 8:38:34am

re: #342 Dr. Matt

It’s amazing how one can actually contract Covid-19, feel how bad it is first hand, and still be like ‘you’re a quack, open the country up no w’

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 8:40:15am

re: #330 Citizen K

They’re going to give Trump the unlimited power he wants, aren’t they?

Criswell Bacon stands by his 5-4 prediction that the corrupted court will say that Trump is above the law in all matters and even the state of New York can’t touch him.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 12, 2020 • 8:41:11am

re: #276 mmmirele

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 8:43:34am
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Teddy's Person  May 12, 2020 • 8:44:42am

I feel ya! Only I would throw the word mediocre in there. Because they are always extraordinarily mediocre.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 8:45:18am

re: #348 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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can i have more updings, please
just for this?

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:45:57am

Criminal now arguing in front of SCOTUS to protect another criminal.

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sagehen  May 12, 2020 • 8:47:55am

re: #297 lizardofid

Good morning!

Sharif is happy, because he beat Casper to the best limb, but a little bit sad, because his tail feathers are starting to look a little rough.

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Did you choose their names, or did they tell you their names?

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A Three Hour Tour  May 12, 2020 • 8:48:14am

re: #345 Citizen K

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It’s amazing how one can actually contract Covid-19, feel how bad it is first hand, and still be like ‘you’re a quack, open the country up no w’

“I do not have to be the be-all and end-all on this, Senator. You … are a self-certified opthamologist, Dr. Paul. I, on the other hand, am an infectious disease expert. Covid-19 is an infectious disease. It is not a case of uncorrected astigmatism. “

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Dr. Matt  May 12, 2020 • 8:48:49am

Americans Giving Up Citizenship Faster Than Ever Before Reports Bambridge Accountants New York

When this was happening during Obama’s presidency, the foxtard club was orgasming because it was “proof” that Americans were rejecting the Black Socialist Communist FEMA Loving Kenyan….something, something.

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Citizen K  May 12, 2020 • 8:50:06am
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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:50:26am

Justice Ginsburg: We have said in the grand jury context that the public has the right to every man’s evidence. Is it your position that that’s, save for the president?

357
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 8:52:07am

re: #356 jaunte

Justice Ginsburg: We have said in the grand jury context that the public has the right to every man’s evidence. Is it your position that that’s, save for the president?

…save for the president’s behavior and actions BEFORE HE WAS PRESIDENT

358
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:52:22am
359
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:53:04am

“If a branch of government does it, it’s not a crime.”

360
Citizen K  May 12, 2020 • 8:53:45am

…oh my fucking absolute god.

361
teleskiguy  May 12, 2020 • 8:55:49am
362
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:59:07am
363
NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 12, 2020 • 9:00:40am

re: #311 jaunte

“You have to know someone is a criminal before you use a subpoena” argument being floated now. By a Supreme Court Justice.

Unfuckingbelieavable. Alito?

364
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 9:01:11am

re: #363 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I think it was Gorsuch.

365
Citizen K  May 12, 2020 • 9:02:48am

Update on the Klantee grocery shopper:

366
Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 9:05:10am

In his economic briefings — which have featured former White House advisers like Jared Bernstein and Benjamin Harris as well as Heather Boushey of the liberal Washington Center for Equitable Growth — Biden has likened the necessity to spend massively and immediately, without the usual D.C. focus on deficits, to a wartime effort. Recently, on a private call with Colorado-based donors, a disenchanted Republican told Jill Biden, Joe’s wife and a prominent campaign presence, that he trusted her husband but feared he’d tacked too far left and wasn’t sufficiently concerned about “the pain” of the national deficit and debt. Jill, an English professor, replied, “I agree, there’s going to be so much pain that Joe has to address — it’s going to be the physical pain, the emotional pain, the social pain, the economic pain that this country is going to go through.” She ignored the part about the deficit…

367
Hecuba's daughter  May 12, 2020 • 9:05:31am

re: #200 Dr Lizardo

Trump’s abysmal response to this pandemic would be the stuff of black comedy if there weren’t such tragedy and death around it.

I wonder how Trump will react if someone close to him ends up intubated in an ICU? Part of me could see him going full-on Howard Hughes, retreating to Mar-a-Lago, barricaded behind a labyrinth of locked doors and security guards and living on Big Macs, Diet Coke and candy bars.

Nope. Hughes was a hermit by nature. Trump needs an audience — and tweeting is an insufficient mechanism to grant him the public presence he craves. He withers without adoring fans surrounding him and praising him, especially in public places where all can view him.

368
Eventual Carrion  May 12, 2020 • 9:05:33am

re: #301 NO SMOCKING GUN!

My nightmare scenario: The GOP backs up Trump’s claim of massive voter fraud, and two sets of electoral votes are sent to Congress, one in which Trump has at least 270 electoral votes, many from states he didn’t actually win. Trump claims he was reelected, and refuses to cooperate with the transition, while Barr tries to make a case to arrest Biden for “voter fraud.”

That’s when me and my gun will be on Pennsylvania Ave.

369
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 9:07:13am

re: #360 Citizen K

…oh my fucking absolute god.

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dem presidential candidates voluntarily release their tax returns
(even the losers)

370
Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2020 • 9:07:13am

The GOP realizes that if SCOTUS rules in favor of broad Presidential powers the next Democratic President can take advantage of it, right?

/

371
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 9:07:25am
372
Eventual Carrion  May 12, 2020 • 9:08:49am

re: #313 jaunte

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And we should only have a trial for people who are guilty?

373
BigPapa  May 12, 2020 • 9:10:05am

re: #372 Eventual Carrion

And we should only have a trial for people who are guilty?

That’s AM Radio loon batshittery. I’m still reeling that a SCOTUS jurist went there.

374
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 9:10:18am
375
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 9:10:59am

re: #370 Eclectic Cyborg

The GOP realizes that if SCOTUS rules in favor of broad Presidential powers the next Democratic President can take advantage of it, right?

/

personally i do not believe they will vote in favor of trump (lots of reasons why)
thought they could find a way to boot it till after the election

otoh, you know any ruling in favor of broad pres powers will include an expiration date of 1/20/21

376
Hecuba's daughter  May 12, 2020 • 9:12:34am

re: #370 Eclectic Cyborg

The GOP realizes that if SCOTUS rules in favor of broad Presidential powers the next Democratic President can take advantage of it, right?

/

Not if they craft a Bush v Gore style opinion. This SCOTUS is reaffirming what we learned from the 2000 decision and from subsequent cases under Roberts (such as Citizens United): conservatives are opposed to democracy and more comfortable with authoritarian rule under a white supremacist oligarchy.

377
Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 9:13:08am

re: #360 Citizen K

…oh my fucking absolute god.

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Typical Pre$$titution.

378
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 9:13:54am

re: #370 Eclectic Cyborg

The GOP realizes that if SCOTUS rules in favor of broad Presidential powers the next Democratic President can take advantage of it, right?

/

Not if there is never another Democratic President…

379
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 9:19:47am
380
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 9:26:22am

what the effing eff?

President Trump explicitly suggested that MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough had committed murder, Politico reports.

Tweeted Trump: “When will they open a Cold Case on the Psycho Joe Scarborough matter in Florida. Did he get away with murder? Some people think so. Why did he leave Congress so quietly and quickly? Isn’t it obvious? What’s happening now? A total nut job!”

That led Scarborough to respond: “For your sake, as I’ve been saying for years — Donald, for your sake, and for the sake of America, you need to stop watching our show, OK? It’s not good for you.”

381
Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 9:28:04am

re: #380 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

what the effing eff?

OANN brought up the Lori Klausutis matter.

382
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 9:28:16am

re: #379 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

One risk for Trump turning reopening plans into a polarized political issue is that — even setting aside the public health aspect — if a large swath decides it’s not safe to go out based on partisan instincts that would itself do grievous damage to the economy

A small swath will go out based on partisan instinct, an overwhelmingly larger swath will stay in - based on Common Fucking Sense and Concern for the Common Good.

383
Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2020 • 9:28:30am

re: #379 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

THIS.

It’s not enough to simply throw the doors open and say: “Hey, we’re back in business!”

The CUSTOMERS have got to show up and spend money. Otherwise it’s a wasted effort.

384
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 9:30:06am

re: #383 Eclectic Cyborg

THIS.

It’s not enough to simply throw the doors open and say: “Hey, we’re back in business!”

The CUSTOMERS have got to show up and spend money. Otherwise it’s a wasted effort.

And that is the point. No amount of opening is going to get me into a crowded venue, amusement park, restaurant, airport, airplane or cruise ship…

Not until there is a vaccine, an effective treatment and widespread testing…

385
The Pie Overlord!  May 12, 2020 • 9:31:19am

re: #365 Citizen K

Update on the Klantee grocery shopper:

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Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 9:31:54am

re: #384 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And that is the point. No amount of opening is going to get me into a crowded venue, amusement park, restaurant, airport, airplane or cruise ship…

Not until there is a vaccine, an effective treatment and widespread testing…

I might go back to a restaurant if there is effective testing and actual enforcement. I suspect that even if there’s enough testing, Texas won’t actuall enforce stay home orders, on whites.

387
Teddy's Person  May 12, 2020 • 9:33:34am

Something to look forward to.

388
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 9:37:12am
389
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 9:38:32am

re: #382 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A small swath will go out based on partisan instinct, an overwhelmingly larger swath will stay in - based on Common Fucking Sense and Concern for the Common Good.

when that first swath goes out, it will blow their minds because a whole host of businesses, large and small will still be closed

those people are ‘staying in’ (or havent figured a safe business model that will work yet)

the rage when they cant exercise their ‘freedoms’…

390
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 9:40:51am
391
Hecuba's daughter  May 12, 2020 • 9:45:01am

re: #390 jaunte

Given that the Senate is in GOP hands, that means Congress has no effective way of responding to a tyrannical president. If the SC rules in Trump’s favor, it’s game over for the United States.

392
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 9:45:20am

re: #390 jaunte

He also literally suggested that Dems slow rolling Trump’s nominees is somehow how Congress should (or is allowed to) respond to Trump’s REFUSAL TO ANSWER A LAWFUL SUBPOENA.

Slow rolling nominees…you mean like Mitch McConnell refusing to hold hearings for a SCOTUS nominee?

393
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 9:48:12am
394
Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 9:48:43am

re: #392 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Slow rolling nominees…you mean like Mitch McConnell refusing to hold hearings for a SCOTUS nominee?

If Ginsberg were to die on January 1st, McConnell would have a replacement confirmed by January 2nd.

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teleskiguy  May 12, 2020 • 9:49:17am
396
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 9:50:01am
397
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 9:50:15am

re: #394 Belafon

If Ginsberg were to die on January 1st, McConnell would have a replacement confirmed by January 2nd.

If she died while Biden was being sworn in, he would have a replacement confirmed before could finish the oath…

398
Dave In Austin  May 12, 2020 • 9:50:55am

Oh Man……..

Romney just turned the knife. Oh! And stabby as hell.

399
Teddy's Person  May 12, 2020 • 9:51:08am

Serious question, when should we expect a ruling on whether Donny is above the law?

400
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 12, 2020 • 9:51:08am

re: #258 BigPapa

Hammering the point home: People don’t trust Trump yet more people give him a job approval rating.

Most of those who give him a positive job approval know he is lying all the time.

When Bannon said Flood the zone with shit it was an encapsulation of their raison d’etre.

The lying is a feature, not a bug.

Boils down to what I’ve seen on Facebook by those who aren’t groupies as “He’s a complete asshole. But he’s *our* asshole.”

Seen them also comment about the protesters that were lugging around inert AT-4 props and such to buy sandwiches that they are douche bag assholes as well. And then wondering they these nuts get any media attention.

401
Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2020 • 9:52:42am

re: #394 Belafon

If Ginsberg were to die on January 1st, McConnell would have a replacement confirmed by January 2nd.

Or as Al Franken said, if Trump loses and RBG were to die on Jan. 19th, he’d have a replacement before noon on 1/20.

402
Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 9:52:53am

re: #395 teleskiguy

403
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 9:53:22am

re: #399 Teddy’s Person

Serious question, when should we expect a ruling on whether Donny is above the law?

They have to find a way to write it without saying it that way.

404
Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 9:53:31am

re: #396 jaunte

“Why should my criming be a burden on me?”

Seems no one cared about that with Clinton, and the burden of investigations into Obama didn’t slow anyone down.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 9:54:07am

re: #388 jaunte

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imagine if they then argue, but there could be a flood with the next democrat as president….

406
gocart mozart  May 12, 2020 • 9:54:22am
407
DodgerFan1988  May 12, 2020 • 9:54:22am

Trump’s unwillingness to allow Coronavirus mass-testing for all Americans is China’s fault.

408
Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 9:54:28am

re: #399 Teddy’s Person

Serious question, when should we expect a ruling on whether Donny is above the law?

Any minute now! 5-4 giving Present Pantshitter a blank check.

409
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2020 • 9:54:45am

Will the NRA roll over when newly empowered tyrant Trump orders guns seized from liberals and POC? Does anyone even need to ask?

410
Teddy's Person  May 12, 2020 • 9:55:08am

re: #395 teleskiguy

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I suspect that the Philosophy Department at Liberty U was never robust. Toward the end of my PhD program as we prepared for the job market, we knew the buzzwords in job announcements that indicated religious affiliation was more important than academic freedom.

411
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 9:55:18am
412
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 9:56:36am

re: #394 Belafon

If Ginsberg were to die on January 1st, McConnell would have a replacement confirmed by January 2nd.

could be the same day, if early enough

413
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 9:57:23am
414
Dave In Austin  May 12, 2020 • 9:57:32am
415
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 12, 2020 • 9:57:36am

re: #398 Dave In Austin

Oh Man……..

Romney just turned the knife. Oh! And shabby as hell.

??

416
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 12, 2020 • 9:57:39am

re: #293 Eclectic Cyborg

Even if the Obama Admin didn’t leave them a gameplan (which of course we know is total bullshit), he hasn’t been President for over THREE FUCKING YEARS NOW. Seems to me that would be plenty of time for the Trump Admin to come up with THEIR OWN GAME PLAN for something like this.

This is multiple levels of fail, Mitch.

It’s in the same filing cabinet with their replacement for ACA.*

* - Both are probably a file card with “Go f**k yourself, we have what we want.” written on it.

417
Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 9:57:48am

re: #409 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Will the NRA roll over when newly empowered tyrant Trump orders guns seized from liberals and POC? Does anyone even need to ask?

Oh we know Wayne will have a photo-op as he takes guns away from colored folks!

418
Dave In Austin  May 12, 2020 • 9:58:05am

re: #415 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Senate Hearings

419
BeachDem  May 12, 2020 • 9:58:31am

re: #399 Teddy’s Person

Serious question, when should we expect a ruling on whether Donny is above the law?

420
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 9:58:58am

re: #396 jaunte

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“They argue that if investigations find criminal or other behavior issues that COULD be a burden. “

yes, defending your uncovered criminal behavior could be a burden….

421
Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 9:59:25am

re: #419 BeachDem

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Hate to break it to her but the die is cast 5-4 that Trump is above the law.

422
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 9:59:26am

re: #399 Teddy’s Person

Serious question, when should we expect a ruling on whether Donny is above the law?

i read likely in june

423
Dave In Austin  May 12, 2020 • 9:59:44am

Romney came out of left field and hammered on the way things have been handled.

Y’all will hear about it. It was priceless real-time.

424
Teddy's Person  May 12, 2020 • 10:01:06am

re: #419 BeachDem

re: #422 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Thanks!!

425
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 10:01:14am
426
Teddy's Person  May 12, 2020 • 10:02:39am

re: #423 Dave In Austin

Romney came out of left field and hammered on the way things have been handled.

Y’all will hear about it. It was priceless real-time.

The cynic in me thinks someone in the Romney clan has come down with the ‘rona.

427
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2020 • 10:03:02am

re: #425 jaunte

Dunne is making the (EXCELLENT) point that imagining what kind of “speculative mental distress” they may be causing Donald Trump is NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL STANDARD!

It is now…

428
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 12, 2020 • 10:09:51am

re: #383 Eclectic Cyborg

THIS.

It’s not enough to simply throw the doors open and say: “Hey, we’re back in business!”

The CUSTOMERS have got to show up and spend money. Otherwise it’s a wasted effort.

The bad part is that the workers will have to be there - and possibly with instructions to show up whether or not they’re sick*, probably/possibly with poor equipment and safety instructions, and the most likely customers are going to be wackaloons who eschew wearing masks, continuing to practice social distancing, and thus more likely to be (or become) virus carriers.

* - Or showing up due to fear of losing their jobs. Because capitalism.

429
Alephnaught  May 12, 2020 • 10:09:54am

If you wondered what Limmy thought of the recent VE Day celebrations in the UK, and their co-opting of the “Blitz spirit” with the current UK Government’s pandemic prevention clusterf^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpolicy…

430
Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 10:11:03am

Resigning ourselves to what the conservatives might decide is not the way to do this. Get angry at the stupid questions the conservatives are asking, and when they rule, then you get angry if the outcome isn’t what you like.

There’s also this, though: By sitting on this now, any decision will have very little impact on Trump if we do our jobs and boot him from office, because there will be less than seven months before he leaves office. We’ll just be getting a head start on prosecuting him after he leaves.

431
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 10:11:13am

Everything Trump Touches Dies

432
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 10:12:09am

washington examiner

“I am here to tell Republicans that while their struggle with younger voters still remains a critical long-term challenge, an even graver short-term threat has emerged: declining support among seniors.”

433
Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 10:13:04am

The SCOTUS arguments do reveal that Republicans know change is coming, and they’re fighting like mad to delay it.

434
lizardofid  May 12, 2020 • 10:13:26am

re: #421 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hate to break it to her but the die is cast 5-4 that Trump is above the law.

Most likely, the only question is how the decision will be be parsed.

435
jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 10:14:22am
436
Alephnaught  May 12, 2020 • 10:14:56am
437
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 10:17:05am

re: #379 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

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further on this from a rando commenter

Really, making this a partisan issue brings us the worst of both worlds—people who hate Trump will be reluctant to reemerge (although I think 95% of this effect is just concern about health, not Trump-hate…almost everyone hates the lockdown), and people who love him will resist restrictions. Trump has destroyed his own ability to influence the course of the pandemic. Worst of both worlds, but that’s just how Trump rolls.

438
lizardofid  May 12, 2020 • 10:18:04am

I’m seeing reports that Vlad is in hospital with Covid.

Don’t be surprised to see this superman emerge unscathed.

//

Edit: Looks like it may be his spokesman. My bad.

439
Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2020 • 10:19:04am

re: #438 lizardofid

I’m seeing reports that Vlad is in hospital with Covid.

Don’t be surprised to see this superman emerge unscathed.

//

I saw a report earlier someone close to him had it. One of his assistants, I think?

440
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 10:19:39am

cases in my zip code

23 on 4/20/20

25 on 5/4/20

26 cases as of today

three new cases since April 20

441
lizardofid  May 12, 2020 • 10:21:13am

re: #439 Eclectic Cyborg

I saw a report earlier someone close to him had it. One of his assistants, I think?

Thanks, edited!

442
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 12, 2020 • 10:22:09am

re: #438 lizardofid

I’m seeing reports that Vlad is in hospital with Covid.

Don’t be surprised to see this superman emerge unscathed.

//

Edit: Looks like it may be his spokesman. My bad.

we can dream

443
Mattand  May 12, 2020 • 10:23:28am

re: #438 lizardofid

I’m seeing reports that Vlad is in hospital with Covid.

Don’t be surprised to see this superman emerge unscathed.

//

Edit: Looks like it may be his spokesman. My bad.

Given the recent rash of Russian doctors “accidentally” falling to their deaths, I wouldn’t be surprised if that anyone catching COVID around Putin winds up dead.

From an “accident” and not the virus, that is.

444
Teddy's Person  May 12, 2020 • 10:25:34am
445
BeachDem  May 12, 2020 • 10:26:03am

re: #435 jaunte

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And then there’s

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Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 10:26:18am
The House is delaying its return until Friday as leadership continues to craft the next big—really big—coronavirus response bill, a draft of which is expected as soon as Tuesday, but probably Wednesday. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has urged her Democratic colleagues to “Think Big,” quoting Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell. She wrote: “We must ‘Think Big’ For The People now, because if we don’t, it will cost more later. Not acting is the most expensive course.”

Thinking big is precisely what early reports are suggesting. CARES 2 (the previous bill was the Coronavirus Aid Relief and Economic Security, or CARES Act) will provide more help to hospitals and medical workers, to small businesses, and to workers and families. A lot more help—it’s expected to come in above the $2.2 trillion provided in CARES 1. There are eight key provisions identified by reports from The Hill, including: state and local funding; rent and mortgage assistance; direct cash payments; funding for workers and small businesses; expanding broadband; ramping up coronavirus testing and tracing; an infusion of funds to the Post Office and funds for states to create systems for an all-mail election; and a 15% increase in funds for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), previously known as food stamps.

dailykos.com

447
Alephnaught  May 12, 2020 • 10:30:25am

re: #443 Mattand

Given the recent rash of Russian doctors “accidentally” falling to their deaths, I wouldn’t be surprised if that anyone catching COVID around Putin winds up dead.

From an “accident” and not the virus, that is.

448
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 12, 2020 • 10:30:30am

Chester County PA, COVID-19 stats for yesterday:
Confirmed Cases: 1973 (+47)
Total tests: 9277 (+228)
Deaths: 189 (+2)

At this point there are confirmed cases in all townships and boroughs of the county… except one.

449
NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 12, 2020 • 10:35:02am

re: #341 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

weird but good news?

Very good news; this group gave Trump the presidency in 2016 because they hated Clinton more than Trump.

450
NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 12, 2020 • 10:44:31am

re: #366 Belafon

love it!

451
NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 12, 2020 • 10:47:29am

re: #370 Eclectic Cyborg

The GOP realizes that if SCOTUS rules in favor of broad Presidential powers the next Democratic President can take advantage of it, right?

/

That is when the right-wing justices overrule the precedent they just set.

452
NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 12, 2020 • 10:49:46am

re: #379 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

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They will decide its not safe to go out because ITS NOT SAFE TO GO OUT!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 12, 2020 • 10:54:16am

re: #396 jaunte

[Embedded content]

That argument is literally that the President shouldn’t be investigated because they might find out he is a criminal.

454
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2020 • 10:57:29am

Man hit by airplane, killed on ABIA runway identified by police
One Junin Ko, age 22. Presence on runway still unexplained. A Junin Ko, 22, was arrested for public intoxication in Austin last year, which may provide a clue. Story and mugshot: kxan.com

455
danarchy  May 12, 2020 • 11:03:58am

re: #345 Citizen K

It’s amazing how one can actually contract Covid-19, feel how bad it is first hand, and still be like ‘you’re a quack, open the country up no w’

To quote Rand Paul:

“I had an extraordinarily mild case,” Paul, who is also a doctor, said on “Fox & Friends” on Monday. “I had no symptoms, never had a headache, never had a body ache, never had a fever, never had a cough.”

Didn’t happen to him so it can’t be that bad.

456
Eventual Carrion  May 12, 2020 • 11:09:24am

re: #387 Teddy’s Person

Something to look forward to.

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Cool, youngest son and daughter caught it live in Columbus OH last year. They really enjoyed it.


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