Krauthammer: When Austria Mocks You, You’re Having a Bad Week

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Charles Krauthammer’s latest: It’s Your Country Too, Mr. President.

Our president came bearing a basketful of mea culpas. With varying degrees of directness or obliqueness, Obama indicted his own people for arrogance, for dismissiveness and derisiveness, for genocide, for torture, for Hiroshima, for Guantanamo and for insufficient respect for the Muslim world.

And what did he get for this obsessive denigration of his own country? He wanted more NATO combat troops in Afghanistan to match the surge of 17,000 Americans. He was rudely rebuffed.

He wanted more stimulus spending from Europe. He got nothing.

From Russia, he got no help on Iran. From China, he got the blocking of any action on North Korea.

And what did he get for Guantanamo? France, pop. 64 million, will take one prisoner. One! (Sadly, he’ll have to leave his bridge partner behind.) The Austrians said they would take none. As Interior Minister Maria Fekter explained with impeccable Germanic logic, if they’re not dangerous, why not just keep them in America?

When Austria is mocking you, you’re having a bad week.

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381 comments
1 Athos  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:28:07am

So much for Hope n'Change instantly bringing Euro love.....

2 DEZes  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:29:03am

I started to post a link to that yesterday, But I didnt think it was LGF worthy.
Thanks Charles.

3 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:29:24am

See how far unicorn farts and cotton candy clouds get ya?! So the people raising hell about the terrorists in custody don't want them? Fine, let the Code Pinkos, Peaceniks, etc...house them. Put them in Bill Ayers or Rahm Emmanuels neighborhood.

4 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:29:32am

I did NOT vote for that man!

5 DEZes  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:30:17am

Hello Hoops. ;)

6 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:30:20am
It is passing strange for a world leader to celebrate his own country's decline. A few more such overseas tours, and Obama will have a lot more decline to celebrate.

Ouch. I'm one of the 58% who voted for the other guy. I'm not celebrating the decline of our nation.

7 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:30:59am

re: #4 Nevergiveup
I wonder how much buyers remorse has set in on the left side? Not the far left or even not so far left, but the slightly left?

8 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:31:03am

They'll love him when he learns how to speak Austrian.

9 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:31:16am

re: #6 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Ouch. I'm one of the 58% who voted for the other guy. I'm not celebrating the decline of our nation.

What do you mean by 58%?

10 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:31:42am

re: #8 MandyManners
Ich bin ein hoseheads!

11 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:31:59am

re: #5 DEZes

Hello Hoops. ;)

Hi Dez! Hiding in the Den..Construction workers are tearing up the house..

12 rawmuse  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:32:09am

Welcome to the Office of the President, Mr. Obama. You wanted it, you got it, now deal with it.

13 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:32:24am

re: #7 pingjockey

I wonder how much buyers remorse has set in on the left side? Not the far left or even not so far left, but the slightly left?

Well if my Looney left Jewish family is any example, they still like him? And I have no freak en idea why, other than he is not Bush.

14 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:32:37am

Hope & Change has met reality. Noone is going to become a Unicorn herder & the international community will snmile at Obama while refusing his requests. IMO , they have identified him as a useful idiot that just need to be humored.

15 jcm  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:33:03am

The Emperor walked the length and breadth of the European Kingdoms displaying his new suit of clothes for all to see.

16 DEZes  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:33:26am

re: #11 HoosierHoops

Hi Dez! Hiding in the Den..Construction workers are tearing up the house..

My cats can now be called construction workers, and they tear up my house for free.

17 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:33:32am

I read this in the Washington Post--SO GLAD YOU POSTED IT, CHARLES! I e-mailed it to all my friends and printed out a copy for my students. It needs widespread distribution.

18 lawhawk  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:33:44am
As Interior Minister Maria Fekter explained with impeccable Germanic logic, if they’re not dangerous, why not just keep them in America?

Indeed.

The fact is that the supposedly vaunted Obama European campaign stop didn't exactly get what Obama wanted. He didn't get the troop commitments for Afghanistan, and they didn't exactly swoon over his overseas contingency operations plans either. They're a muddled mess on Iran and North Korea, and the UN couldn't even come up with a weakly worded letter to contest the North Korean UN SCR violation with their missile launch.

The Administration's handling of these situations ranges from feckless aloofness to absolute ignorance. And our allies and enemies are seeing what results. Iran continues advancing their nuclear program. North Korea tests their missiles, and the US shrugs its shoulders at all of it. They can't even be bothered to make a stand on piracy, which pretty much every country would support because international trade is concerned.

But, Obama will take credit for an improving economy even though his porkfest had nothing to do with it. Real estate is improving in many parts of the country, and low interest rates are a big reason, along with affordable housing prices for qualified buyers. Banks are lending again - and paying attention to who they're lending to (though we'll see how long that lasts as Congress and the usual suspects will demand more lending to subprimes).

19 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:33:50am

I just fail to understand how Obama doesn't realize exactly what he is doing.

It's like we aren't living on the same planet.

20 Emperor Norton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:33:50am

Those Austrians better knock it off. It it wasn't for the US and the Allies in World War II liberating Austria, they'd all be speaking German today.

21 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:34:20am

re: #13 Nevergiveup
Gaaah! I have never understood the mindset of the Jewish left. The donks will sell Israel down the river in a New York minute for any half assed idea of a peace(spit) with the Palibarbarians.

22 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:34:32am

re: #9 Nevergiveup

What do you mean by 58%?

I mean I'm using Enron math to say 48%.

23 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:34:35am

We will know that America has lost the mantle of leadership officially when Japan DECLARES itself a Nuclear Nation. And I suggest they do that tomorrow.

24 Athos  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:34:36am

re: #12 rawmuse

Welcome to the Office of the President, Mr. Obama. You wanted it, you got it, now deal with it.

/Present

25 kansas  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:34:36am

Reality will set in April 15th 2011 after the Dems get re-elected to Congress. Our taxes went up how much?

26 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:34:52am

re: #8 MandyManners

Cal-ee--for--nya.

27 Spiritualized  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:35:13am

Flying: the safest form of travel!

UK Terror Suspects Worked at Airport & Linked to Mumbai Terrorists

The Pakistani nationals and Al-Qaeda members arrested this week in Great Britain worked at the Manchester Airport and were linked to the terrorists who attacked Mumbai last year.

(....)

At least one drove vans for a cargo company which has access to sensitive locations.

A further two had passed security industry checks which enabled them to guard premises overnight, further raising fears that members of the gang - all but one of them Pakistani students - were planning to infiltrate high-profile targets before an attack.

28 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:35:25am

re: #21 pingjockey

Gaaah! I have never understood the mindset of the Jewish left. The donks will sell Israel down the river in a New York minute for any half assed idea of a peace(spit) with the Palibarbarians.

YUP

29 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:35:45am

re: #20 Emperor Norton

Those Austrians better knock it off. It it wasn't for the US and the Allies in World War II liberating Austria, they'd all be speaking German today.

Yeah & if we lost the Revolutionary War, we would all be speaking English.

30 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:36:06am

re: #19 Joo-LiZ

I just fail to understand how Obama doesn't realize exactly what he is doing.

It's like we aren't living on the same planet.

I think he knows. He belongs to the radical left wing. There is nothing in his history that makes me believe otherwise.

31 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:36:22am

re: #19 Joo-LiZ

I just fail to understand how Obama doesn't realize exactly what he is doing.

It's like we aren't living on the same planet.

The guy thought all he had to do was show up and vote present.

32 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:36:35am

re: #27 Spiritualized
Gaaah! Doesn't anyone do background checks anymore. Oh, wait. It's only not racsist if you are a white male.

33 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:37:20am

re: #20 Emperor Norton

Very funny!

34 yesandno  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:37:24am

Krauthammered again....

35 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:38:05am

OT: Here's a curious story.....
Extremist terrorist threatens multiple beheadings. Media Silent.


One story you probably won’t have heard recently is the attempted terrorist attack on Glasgow Central Mosque. Neil MacGregor has pleaded guilty to not only trying to blow up Scotland’s biggest Mosque but also threatening to behead one Muslim a week until there are no more Mosques in Scotland.
It’s a shocking attack with extremely sinister objectives. Surely if anything is newsworthy then this is it? Yet there’s been barely a peep from any media outlets. I wonder why there has been no press coverage on this at all. Would it be different if it was a Muslim extremist trying to blow up a church or synagogue? The sentencing will be tomorrow morning.

Their link goes to a series of blog posts, nothing substantial. Google search: Neil MacGregor
 show a few result from Pakistani sources about the mosque bombing but nothing from a reputable source. The British Museum Director's name is Neil MacGregor.
I find it hard to believe this story could be true and there's a complete media blackout on it. I guess MPACUK is just trying to distract from the Easter weekend plot that just got busted.

36 docremulac  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:38:11am

O.T.

Well, the pirates have taken another crew hostage while that first group is holding off the U.S. Navy with a couple of machine guns and a hostage.

The last time we had Democrat President and Congress wasn't there a hostage crisis as well? I seem to remember something about muslims taking Americans hostage and humiliating the U.S. Military who was, under that administration, powerless to stop them.

37 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:38:18am

re: #30 Nevergiveup

I think he knows. He belongs to the radical left wing. There is nothing in his history that makes me believe otherwise.

Obama told us in his memoirs of his disdain for the U.S & he & his wife told us during the campaign. He is who he said he is.

38 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:38:29am

re: #30 Nevergiveup
Yep. We are seeing a coordinated attack on the foundations of this country by the 60s radicals. Who are now in a position to carry out their idea of a socialist utopia.

39 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:38:46am

re: #27 Spiritualized

Ugh.

40 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:39:28am

re: #37 opnion

Obama told us in his memoirs of his disdain for the U.S & he & his wife told us during the campaign. He is who he said he is.

he's worse...an utter nightmare

41 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:39:36am

re: #30 Nevergiveup

I don't think he knows. I think he is really clueless. As I said, I think he just thought this was a ceremonial job--show up, vote present, smile or look daggers at reporters who ask a hard question--and ignore the sly European jibes.
Present!
As far as the left is concerned--well, that's what they mean by "present"--it's a gift to THEM. To us, we might remember, beware of geeks bearing gifts--er-presents.

42 Athos  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:39:37am

re: #18 lawhawk

But, Obama will take credit for an improving economy even though his porkfest had nothing to do with it. Real estate is improving in many parts of the country, and low interest rates are a big reason, along with affordable housing prices for qualified buyers. Banks are lending again - and paying attention to who they're lending to (though we'll see how long that lasts as Congress and the usual suspects will demand more lending to subprimes).

Which demonstrates how much of a farce this stimulus package was and the manufactured rush to pass it. The funds haven't even started to hit 99.8% of the projects and the skies are lightening. Then this crew is busy claiming responsibility for fixing something that a) wouldn't have gotten to this point without government interference into the markets in the first place; and b) isn't really fixed as it will get rebuggered up as the budget / porkulus impacts really happen.

Meanwhile, we have numerous banks trying to re-pay their TARP loans and being rebuffed by the Administration because the only axe hanging over the heads of the banks and their executives are the TARP funds. Now just why is the government so reluctant to get that taxpayer money returned?

43 Shug  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:39:49am

Speak Austiran Softly, and carry a Big Stick

44 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:40:04am

We're being mocked by Austrians, Iranians, North Koreans, Russians, and Somali fucking pirates. Thanks, Mr. President.

45 quickjustice  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:40:08am

The Europeans don't yet understand that Obama wants to wind down, and eventually eliminate, our status as a military superpower. We've employed that power since WWII to protect Europe and other allies. Obama's trying to accomplish that by approaching our allies, and asking them to begin to assume more responsibility in their own defense, and for the burden of dealing with issues like the GITMO inmates, for example.

The Europeans are laughing at him right now, but that laughter will become short-lived as they realize that Obama really means to withdraw our defensive shield from Europe. Without American protection, the Europeans are very, very exposed. Only the Brits have a military that might possibly defend Britain without U.S. help in a real crisis.

Much as I disagree with his policy on this issue, we shouldn't laugh at Obama about this. He's deadly serious.

46 Shug  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:40:09am

Austiran = Austrian

PIMF

47 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:40:14am

re: #15 jcm

The Emperor walked the length and breadth of the European Kingdoms displaying his new suit of clothes for all to see.

He's butt-nekkid.

48 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:40:41am

re: #31 katemaclaren

The guy thought all he had to do was show up and vote present.

Which is what he did do in Europe. And remember, as far as he and his administration are concerned, the week on the continent was a smashing success.

Just because Krauthammer is all worked up and spitting about this, doesn't mean anything to Obama, or the MSM, or about half of the population.

Nothing from nothing leaves nothing. And the world saw O and the world was happy.

He won, we lost.

49 Shug  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:41:14am

Unclench Austrians

50 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:41:18am

re: #32 pingjockey

Gaaah! Doesn't anyone do background checks anymore. Oh, wait. It's only not racsist if you are a white male.

MA governor and Obama pal wants CORI reform so convicts here have an easier time getting jobs. I guess I should be thankful he didn't get the AG nod he wanted. Although I fear he'd be on the short list for a Supreme Court vacancy.

/that made me want to go back to bed.

51 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:41:55am

re: #29 opnion

Yeah & if we lost the Revolutionary War, we would all be speaking English.

Oh another good one! Thanks for the smile.

52 rawmuse  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:41:58am

re: #44 Occasional Reader

We're being mocked by Austrians, Iranians, North Koreans, Russians, and Somali fucking pirates. Thanks, Mr. President.

You forgot Methodists.

53 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:42:11am

re: #41 katemaclaren

I don't think he knows. I think he is really clueless. As I said, I think he just thought this was a ceremonial job--show up, vote present, smile or look daggers at reporters who ask a hard question--and ignore the sly European jibes.
Present!
As far as the left is concerned--well, that's what they mean by "present"--it's a gift to THEM. To us, we might remember, beware of geeks bearing gifts--er-presents.

Unfortunately I think your wrong. He sat in the racist left wing hate Church for TWENTY years. He knows and I fear those of us who love America will rue the day he got elected.

54 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:42:19am

re: #43 Shug

Huh? Is that another planet? (Just kidding!)

55 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:42:31am

re: #40 albusteve

he's worse...an utter nightmare

This is a real long shot, because too many seats would have to turn over, but the best immediate strategy is to turn over the House in 2010.
Try tio build a firewall against BHO.

56 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:42:41am

re: #36 docremulac

I hope this latest hostage-taking doesn't provoke... another Hillary giggle fit.

57 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:42:45am

re: #53 Nevergiveup

Unfortunately I think your wrong. He sat in the racist left wing hate Church for TWENTY years. He knows and I fear those of us who love America will rue the day he got elected.

I already do.

58 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:43:12am

re: #56 Occasional Reader

I hope this latest hostage-taking doesn't provoke... another Hillary giggle fit.

Seriously, what was that?

59 DEZes  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:43:15am

"It is passing strange for a world leader to celebrate his own country's decline. A few more such overseas tours, and Obama will have a lot more decline to celebrate."

Sadly true.

60 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:43:19am

re: #52 rawmuse

You forgot Methodists.

...and Andorrans.

61 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:43:49am

Obama is already out-Cartering Carter.

There was a much shared sentiment that electing Obama would assist in garnering respect from the rest of the world. That respect garnered is not the type of respect we needed.

62 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:43:52am

re: #55 opnion

This is a real long shot, because too many seats would have to turn over, but the best immediate strategy is to turn over the House in 2010.
Try tio build a firewall against BHO.

certainly the biggest fight is for the House....beyond that, as it's going BO will not be re-elected

63 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:43:55am

re: #45 quickjustice
I actually think moving troops out of Europe is a good idea. We're gonna need them in the Far East. Let the goddamned Euroweenies foot their own defense bills.

64 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:43:59am

re: #48 Walter L. Newton

Which is what he did do in Europe. And remember, as far as he and his administration are concerned, the week on the continent was a smashing success.

Just because Krauthammer is all worked up and spitting about this, doesn't mean anything to Obama, or the MSM, or about half of the population.

Nothing from nothing leaves nothing. And the world saw O and the world was happy.

He won, we lost.

BHO got nothing tangible on his trip, but he got adulation. Mission accomplished. The man is a narcissist.

65 Shug  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:44:38am

The joke at Detroit Lions games is "Will the mother of 10 please collect your lost children. They're beating the lions 37-0 "

The Obama Administration reminds me of the Detroit Lions

66 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:45:19am

re: #64 opnion

BHO got nothing tangible on his trip, but he got adulation. Mission accomplished. The man is a narcissist.

That's all it takes.

67 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:45:23am

re: #62 albusteve

certainly the biggest fight is for the House....beyond that, as it's going BO will not be re-elected

I so hope that you are right. Four years will cause damage, but eight years would be deadly.

68 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:45:24am

re: #65 Shug
That isn't fair to the Lions. They actually show up and try to win.

69 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:45:48am

re: #65 Shug

The joke at Detroit Lions games is "Will the mother of 10 please collect your lost children. They're beating the lions 37-0 "

The Obama Administration reminds me of the Detroit Lions

The Washington Lyins"

70 nyc redneck  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:45:48am

he has shown the world that he is an amateur. a novice.
not worldly at all, despite having lived around the world.
and not a student of history.
anyone who has studied WW2 knows abt. the german anschluss into austria.
it was hardly an invasion. hitler was austrian. he spoke german.
how could o not know german is the language spoken in both countries ?
of course the austrians are laughing.
how can o be so arrogant when he shows his ignorance so often.

71 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:45:58am

re: #48 Walter L. Newton

Which is what he did do in Europe. And remember, as far as he and his administration are concerned, the week on the continent was a smashing success.

Just because Krauthammer is all worked up and spitting about this, doesn't mean anything to Obama, or the MSM, or about half of the population.

Nothing from nothing leaves nothing. And the world saw O and the world was happy.

He won, we lost.

It means something to the close to 60 million people who voted against him.

72 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:46:07am

re: #67 opnion
We are still reaping the harvest of Jimmah Carters fecklessness.

73 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:46:19am

re: #48 Walter L. Newton

This is taking on an eerie --surreal--Orwellian--Arthur C. Clarke--weirdness. I have this frisson (shades of Christ Matthews) when I wake up in the mornings these days. Dorothy Parker: "What fresh new hell is this...?"

74 JacksonTn  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:46:28am

re: #48 Walter L. Newton

The battle ... not the war ... he will not be in office forever ... after the pizza thing ... I am done with the little crap about Obama ... I don't give a flying flip what he wears, eats, how he combs his hair, his kids, his dogs, his garden, his cars, his music, nothing ... I am concerned about what comes out of his mouth when he is representing America ... and his decisions that put us in danger ... he is not worth the mud on my shoes ... we must keep his ass to the fire on every decision he makes ... on every blog, newsletter, email, and if possible television and radio ... the idiots who are at the tea parties are only being allowed to take over because there are not enough other people there ... organize ... that is how Obama got in the White House ... it is our job to keep him out next time ... or any of his other Socialist buddies ...

75 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:46:34am

re: #66 Walter L. Newton

That's all it takes.

Yup, & it gave his supporters their talking points, "See, the world loves him."

76 Idle Drifter  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:47:04am

Obama back stabs his own country and its people while pleading for help from the rest of the world only to get the collective finger. So this is "Smart Diplomacy" at it's best.

77 quickjustice  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:47:28am

re: #63 pingjockey

Which is why the Europeans should be panicking right now, rather than mocking Obama. Our withdrawal means they've got to step up to their own defense. That'll take twenty years, assuming they have the political will to do so. It also means they'll have to scale back their social welfare programs to afford it.

He who laughs last-- Obama may get the last laugh out of this.

78 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:47:30am

re: #69 VegasRick

That would be the Congress, no?

79 kansas  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:47:52am

re: #58 loppyd

Seriously, what was that?


It could represent some form of epilepsy.

80 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:47:53am

re: #68 pingjockey

That isn't fair to the Lions. They actually show up and try to win.

they traded Roy Williams to the Cowboys in week six I think and said the Lions were practicing and playing their asses off...he followed his old team mates all season and they never gave up...Shug might have a different take

81 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:48:05am

re: #74 JacksonTn
Yep, forget about the pizza, bows, minor shit. We need to focus on the big piles of BS being scattered about by his herds of unicorns.

82 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:48:18am

re: #77 quickjustice

Oh, he'll laugh, all right. Like Hillary's cackle--or the Wicked Witch of the West, me pretties!

83 Athos  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:48:23am

re: #70 nyc redneck

how can o be so arrogant when he shows his ignorance so often.

He listens to and believes his own press. As said before, a narcissist. He would never consider himself ignorant - he would think that the rest of us are too effin dumb to understand him.

84 JacksonTn  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:49:16am

re: #81 pingjockey

Yep, forget about the pizza, bows, minor shit. We need to focus on the big piles of BS being scattered about by his herds of unicorns.

Exactly ... I am not even really that type of person in real life ... I have not recognized myself for a long time ... got too friggin caught up in the election since the primaries ... I need to get a grip on the real issues and take it from there ...

85 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:49:16am

re: #72 pingjockey

We are still reaping the harvest of Jimmah Carters fecklessness.

yup

86 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:49:17am

re: #79 kansas

It could represent some form of epilepsy.

Imagine the reaction if Condi had done that?

87 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:49:27am

re: #77 quickjustice

Which is why the Europeans should be panicking right now, rather than mocking Obama. Our withdrawal means they've got to step up to their own defense. That'll take twenty years, assuming they have the political will to do so. It also means they'll have to scale back their social welfare programs to afford it.

He who laughs last-- Obama may get the last laugh out of this.

No Putin will.

88 rawmuse  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:49:45am

It would be funny if it weren't for the fact the he is going to get a lot of us killed.

89 Athos  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:49:52am

re: #75 opnion

Yup, & it gave his supporters their talking points, "See, the world loves him."

The world loves all clueless and impotent American presidents.

90 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:49:54am

re: #77 quickjustice
I really feel bad for the Baltics, Poland, etc...They got rid of the USSR and now we want to leave the to the Bear again. OTOH, the rest of the EU can go piss up a rope.

91 quickjustice  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:50:09am

re: #82 katemaclaren

I don't disagree. As I said before, I disagree with this policy, but the Europeans don't yet understand that Obama is serious about winding down the U.S. as a global military power.

92 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:50:31am

re: #81 pingjockey

Yep, forget about the pizza, bows, minor shit. We need to focus on the big piles of BS being scattered about by his herds of unicorns.

It's fun to mock that stuff to let off some steam, but I agree there are a lot more important policy decisions to rail against.

93 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:50:56am

re: #88 rawmuse

It would be funny if it weren't for the fact the he is going to get a lot of us killed.

Dying is easy. Comedy is hard.

94 quickjustice  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:51:26am

re: #87 Nevergiveup

Putin and other of our global enemies certainly benefit as we withdraw from the world stage.

95 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:51:42am

re: #87 Nevergiveup
That is what I think. Putin isn't about resurrecting the USSR, it is the creation of a new Russian Empire. He already has a real good start. His foot is on the Gas supply for the EU.

96 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:51:53am

re: #88 rawmuse

It would be funny if it weren't for the fact the he is going to get a lot of us killed.

dyin ain't no way to make a livin boy....

97 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:52:20am

re: #89 Athos

The world loves all clueless and impotent American presidents.

He is the poster boy for 'Useful Idiot."

98 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:53:00am

re: #95 pingjockey

That is what I think. Putin isn't about resurrecting the USSR, it is the creation of a new Russian Empire. He already has a real good start. His foot is on the Gas supply for the EU.

And remember all you lizards: Do NOT buy Lukoil! That's the Russian Oil Company.

99 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:53:31am

While he's off in Europe sipping tea and not doing nothing much of else, it's good to know that he's dealing with this serious NKorean missile situation by talking sternly about maybe some resolution to talk sternly.

100 jcm  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:53:32am

re: #72 pingjockey

We are still reaping the harvest of Jimmah Carters fecklessness.

The list is long Carter just the most feckless.

Starting with Pan Am FL93 in '70.
A long list of provocations with little to no response.
Carter with the Embassy.
Reagan with the barracks bombing.
Clinton with a long list of attacks.
The Pirate issue has festered for a long time in the background.

A weak response breeds more violence.

101 kansas  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:53:35am

re: #86 loppyd

Imagine the reaction if Condi had done that?

No. There certainly has been a sea change in the way things are reported. Just went to CNN where I got this headline:
Sunday-school teacher arrested in killing of California girl
I guess I didn't realize that was a vocation. Why would CNN pick that to describe someone other than to bash?

102 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:53:39am

any good beaches in Russia?

103 Randall Gross  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:53:41am

That last line would actually make a great rotating title.

104 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:54:04am

re: #20 Emperor Norton

Those Austrians better knock it off. It it wasn't for the US and the Allies in World War II liberating Austria, they'd all be speaking German today.

Instead of Austrian.

105 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:54:10am

re: #100 jcm
True, very true.

106 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:54:13am

re: #101 kansas

No. There certainly has been a sea change in the way things are reported. Just went to CNN where I got this headline:
Sunday-school teacher arrested in killing of California girl
I guess I didn't realize that was a vocation. Why would CNN pick that to describe someone other than to bash?

Is that a rhetorical question? :)

107 gman  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:54:37am

I guess Al Gore wants to wait until next week to call out Obama for his 800+ mile wide carbon footprint (roughly the distance from Pi's pizzeria to the White House).
There's too much on O's plate right now, literally.

108 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:54:39am

re: #98 Nevergiveup

And remember all you lizards: Do NOT buy Lukoil! That's the Russian Oil Company.

Nor Citgo; Hugo Chavez' piggy bank.

109 Capitalist Tool  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:54:45am

re: #65 Shug

The joke at Detroit Lions games is "Will the mother of 10 please collect your lost children. They're beating the lions 37-0 "

The Obama Administration reminds me of the Detroit Lions


Detroit had the incomparable Barry Sanders all those years and still couldn't hit their butts with both hands.
No wonder Sanders retired early.

110 kansas  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:54:56am

re: #106 loppyd

Is that a rhetorical question? :)

It's hit my head against the wall question. Ouch.

111 Idle Drifter  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:54:57am

re: #65 Shug

The joke at Detroit Lions games is "Will the mother of 10 please collect your lost children. They're beating the lions 37-0 "

The Obama Administration reminds me of the Detroit Lions

I am a Lions Fan, you can tell by the paper bag. However, I'll trade a thousand years of straight losses to not see 8 years of the Obama Administration. I use to live in River Rouge before moving out of state, the Anchor Bar on Fort St. in Detroit had a parking and shuttle service to the various down town games.

112 rawmuse  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:55:03am

re: #102 albusteve

any good beaches in Russia?

The Black Sea is not bad.

113 yesandno  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:55:17am
Messiah’s wife: “Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed"

Get with it...we don't want to go back to a secure country, with the government out of the economy, with the people interested in their own liberty. We want to yell "all hail Cesar" and bow before the inevitable. They will tell us what to believe, how to believe, and we can sleep the rest of the four years.

///////

114 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:55:21am

re: #106 loppyd
It is Easter, of course they had to find a Christian bashing story.

115 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:55:32am

re: #108 Occasional Reader

Nor Citgo; Hugo Chavez' piggy bank.

And if I am not mistaken-and I could be, but I don't think so--Lukoil also owns Getty now.

116 Scion9  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:55:59am

re: #108 Occasional Reader

Nor Citgo; Hugo Chavez' piggy bank.

I believe BP is also supplied by Gazprom.

117 rsl775  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:56:25am

I keep hearing folks mention buyer remorse about Obama. Seems like this would be reasonable to expect. I however see all my friends and acquaintances that voted for Obama even more enthralled with him now and add to that they are enthralled with his wife. I find this astounding but that is what I see in my neighborhood. If buyer remorse is going to happen I think it is still many events down the road. Also since I don’t believe we are on the brink or economic disaster and never where as the economy springs back Obama will reap full benefit and be with us for many more dubious events that by themselves will not do him in. We also at this point don’t see the man behind the curtain who is not a very good man but is a very good wizard.

118 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:56:30am

Later.

119 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:56:41am

re: #109 Capitalist Tool

Detroit had the incomparable Barry Sanders all those years and still couldn't hit their butts with both hands.
No wonder Sanders retired early.

ironically they beat several very good Cowboy teams in those years...I saw Sanders shred the Cowboys in Detroit twice...just tore them up

120 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:56:46am

I caught Wolf & David Geregen on CNN yesterday moaning about ASU, having Obama deliver the Commencement, but not confering an honorary degree on him.
Blitzer said & I am paraphrasing, how could the do that to our first "African American" Prsident.
Like BHO himslf, they want to leverage race.

121 doppelganglander  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:56:49am

re: #101 kansas

No. There certainly has been a sea change in the way things are reported. Just went to CNN where I got this headline:
Sunday-school teacher arrested in killing of California girl
I guess I didn't realize that was a vocation. Why would CNN pick that to describe someone other than to bash?

You've got to admit it's newsworthy. First of all, when was the last time you heard of a woman murdering a child who wasn't her own or in her care? Second, a Sunday school teacher? It's unexpected and therefore interesting. If she'd been a scout leader, they would have mentioned that.

122 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:57:06am

re: #101 kansas

No. There certainly has been a sea change in the way things are reported. Just went to CNN where I got this headline:
Sunday-school teacher arrested in killing of California girl
I guess I didn't realize that was a vocation. Why would CNN pick that to describe someone other than to bash?

I guess because in general, we hold Sunday school teachers to a higher set of morals, or at least a set of moral compatible with the subject they teach.

Of course the MSM wants to play this up, but you would be screaming bloody murder if this was a "muslim" and they kept that info neatly tucked away.

I'm shocked period, especially since she engages in teaching a Sunday school. Aren't you?

123 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:57:12am

Saudi rapist 22nd convict beheaded this year


RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - A Saudi man convicted of rape and robbery has been beheaded, becoming the 22nd prisoner to be executed by sword this year in the kingdom.

An Interior Ministry statement says the man committed the crimes after drinking alcohol.

Saudi Arabia follows a strict interpretation of Islam under which people convicted of murder, drug trafficking, rape and armed robbery can be executed — usually with a sword.

Was it the booze that sent them over the edge and decided to behead the guy?

124 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:57:14am

re: #102 albusteve

any good beaches in Russia?

Does Yalta have a beach?

125 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:57:21am

re: #120 opnion

I caught Wolf & David Geregen on CNN yesterday moaning about ASU, having Obama deliver the Commencement, but not confering an honorary degree on him.
Blitzer said & I am paraphrasing, how could the do that to our first "African American" Prsident.
Like BHO himslf, they want to leverage race.

I saw part of that also. What a bunch of assholes.

126 Ringo the Gringo  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:57:42am

Funny thing is, if you were to listen to my lefty friends you would think that President Obama's tour of Europe was the greatest success since....since forever!

He didn't give Angela Merkel a back rub.

He didn't walk funny.

He was "elegant"..."Isn't nice to have an elegant President?".

Michelle wore all the best designers..."And she's so elegant".

He wasn't arrogant.

And he wasn't Bush!

I'm not kidding...This is what I'm hearing.

My friends are damn proud of the Obama's and think his European tour was a smashing success.

127 MacGregor  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:57:44am

re: #35 Killgore Trout

No relation here. The Gregor clan has some interesting history though. sample

128 yesandno  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:57:53am

re: #99 BigPapa

While he's off in Europe sipping tea and not doing nothing much of else, it's good to know that he's dealing with this serious NKorean missile situation by talking sternly about maybe some resolution to talk sternly.

Doing nothing? You have got to be kidding.... He was directing someone to call St. Louis and schedule the Pizza Night at the White House. Now that takes coordination...

Had you asked about the carbon footprint of the NK missle, more people might have been outraged by the launch....

129 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:57:54am

re: #122 Walter L. Newton
You have a point Walter.

130 spinmore  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:58:07am

Just imagine for a minute (OK a second) . . .

. . . if 'Dubya' had been the president of Harvard Law Review and had NO (absolutely NO) real legal scholarship to lay claim to; yet found the time and motivation to write (2) two books about SELF! Wow - just imagine. And this folks is the world we live in.

This misguided narcissist is 'runnin' the show'. Hey MS where's your disdain? - your hate? - your self-righteous critiques?

131 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:58:09am

re: #117 rsl775

Not me. My mom wants her vote back.

132 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:58:24am

re: #114 pingjockey

It is Easter, of course they had to find a Christian bashing story.

If it's true, what's the problem? If she was Muslim, and they kept that quiet, would that be ok?

133 Kragar  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:58:32am

My opinion is that for every setback overseas, Barry will attempt to put his foot down here at home. Its a power thing, like the guy who has a shitty job and then comes home and unloads on his kids.

134 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:59:02am

re: #133 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My opinion is that for every setback overseas, Barry will attempt to put his foot down here at home. Its a power thing, like the guy who has a shitty job and then comes home and unloads on his kids.

And we are the kids!

135 rawmuse  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:59:08am

re: #124 MandyManners

Does Yalta have a beach?

I have been to Yalta and Odessa, it is a bit rocky, more like Maine.

136 lawhawk  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:59:10am

Obama's weekly radio address contains this nugget:

Obama used the eight-day trip to highlight his ambitious foreign policy agenda, including starting negotiations with Russia about reducing nuclear stockpiles. Such talks, announced alongside Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, would be the first talks in years and are part of Obama's pledge "to free the world from the menace of a nuclear nightmare."

Obama's more than willing to reduce US nuclear capabilities while completely incapable of garnering consensus on dealing with the rogue regime of Iran, which has completed the nuclear fuel cycle and can continue enriching nuclear materials to its black hearted content. Weapons grade uranium is only a matter of time.

Iran's busy on the nuclear side, and Obama shrugs and says he's going to free the world from the menace of nuclear weapons. Whose nuclear nightmare is he talking about? The no-nukes crowd? It certainly isn't Iran.

Meanwhile, North Korea, which already has nuclear weapons capabilities tested a missile last week and Obama's vaunted world tour couldn't get consensus on that either.

Instead, Obama pushes to stop deployment of missile defense that would protect Europe from rogue nation missile launches.

That isn't leadership. It's fecklessness and ignorance that power politics still means something in international affairs. Regimes, terrorists, and pirates will step into the vacuum, and they already have.

137 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:59:23am

re: #124 MandyManners

Does Yalta have a beach?

looks like it....

[Link: www.blacksea-crimea.com...]

138 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:59:31am

re: #8 MandyManners

They'll love him when he learns how to speak Austrian.

Mandy -

Let the "Gubernator" tutor him.

-S-

139 Cathypop  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:59:34am

re: #126 Ringo the Gringo
Would you please slap you friends up-side the head for me?

140 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:59:37am

re: #135 rawmuse

I have been to Yalta and Odessa, it is a bit rocky, more like Maine.

Is the water so cold it makes your teeth chatter instantly like in Maine?

141 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:59:39am

re: #132 Walter L. Newton
I already agreed with you! I just have a terribly visceral reaction to CNN!

142 Desert Dog  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:59:49am

re: #124 MandyManners

Does Yalta have a beach?

Odessa Babes

The Black Sea is fairly warm water. I would guess there is a beach or two there

143 Chicken Kiev  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:59:51am

A "funeral for the Empire" -- typical event in Oakland, California today celebrating the new emasculated America!

Groundbreaking spiritual teacher and systems thinker Joanna Macy has long been suggesting that our effectiveness as social change agents relies on our willingness to feel the suffering of the world and its many inhabitants; she has pioneered what she originally called "Despair Work" and now calls "The Work that Reconnects." (The key is that it is both! Connecting with our despair reconnects us to all other people and to creation, creating powerful solidarity.) Theologian Matthew Fox likewise stresses the importance of the "via negativa," the path that leads us into darkness, pain, emptiness, and helplessness. It is out of this crucible that our creativity and capacity for transformation emerges.

With this potential for transformative grieving in mind, Seminary of the Street is working with First Congregational Church of Oakland to cosponsor a "Funeral for the Empire." At this funeral, we will grieve for the many ways that the Spirit of Life is still being crucified today--both out in the world and inside us--and we'll spend some time mourning all that has died, and also all that needs to die in us in order to live into an alternative way that subverts our long history of domination and exploitation.

The goal of this powerful and meditative service will be to increase our capacity for solidarity with all suffering beings and to fuel the efforts of our many social justice organizations to build an alternative reality. Please join us, and forward this event to all the social change organizations and activists with whom you are connected.

144 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:00:24am

re: #141 pingjockey

I already agreed with you! I just have a terribly visceral reaction to CNN!

Ping, I wasn't jumping on you, the comments simply crossed while we were making points. Sorry.

145 DEZes  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:00:26am

re: #126 Ringo the Gringo

Funny thing is, if you were to listen to my lefty friends you would think that President Obama's tour of Europe was the greatest success since....since forever!

He didn't give Angela Merkel a back rub.

He didn't walk funny.

He was "elegant"..."Isn't nice to have an elegant President?".

Michelle wore all the best designers..."And she's so elegant".

He wasn't arrogant.

And he wasn't Bush!

I'm not kidding...This is what I'm hearing.

My friends are damn proud of the Obama's and think his European tour was a smashing success.

Time to upgrade friends. ;)

146 gman  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:00:50am

re: #123 loppyd

Saudi rapist 22nd convict beheaded this year

Was it the booze that sent them over the edge and decided to behead the guy?

Did Sean Penn show up for a candlelight vigil? Let me guess, the middle east doesn't count.

147 rain of lead  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:00:59am

amazing tornado pics and vids
[Link: www.wkrn.com...]
[Link: www.wsmv.com...]

[Link: www.wtvf.com...]

148 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:01:17am

re: #125 Nevergiveup

I saw part of that also. What a bunch of assholes.

It's confusing, "Celebrate Diversity, but don't notice any differences, you racist!"

149 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:01:18am

They sound like typical clients.

Shoplifters found after leaving photos in cart


PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. — Authorities say two Port St. Lucie woman tried to steal nearly $200 worth of merchandise from a Wal-Mart but got caught because they left packets of recently developed pictures in their abandoned shopping carts.

Police say a self-checkout cashier noticed two women scan and pay for $70 worth of items Thursday, but the bagged groceries in their carts appeared worth much more. When the cashier asked to see their receipt, the women took off.

Among all the merchandise that hadn’t been paid for, store officials found two packets of recently developed pictures. The cashier identified the women in the photos, and the name and phone number on the envelopes turned out to belong to one of the women.

150 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:01:22am

re: #144 Walter L. Newton
S'alright. Crossed comments suck.

151 Capitalist Tool  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:01:32am

re: #119 albusteve

ironically they beat several very good Cowboy teams in those years...I saw Sanders shred the Cowboys in Detroit twice...just tore them up

Sanders played for the Cowboys of Oklahoma State alongside another great- Thurman Thomas, but the team was still only second- fiddle- in Oklahoma, of course. The drudgery of being on a team that never went anywhere just had to be a real drag.

152 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:01:46am

re: #143 Chicken Kiev
Reading that made my head hurt.

153 transient  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:02:10am

It's starting to feel a lot like 1976.
The only good news on that front is...Carter never got a second term.

JFK also pushed for nuclear nonproliferation. Where did he start? Where he could exert pressure: Israel. No signs of it yet with Obama, but I really hope he doesn't start trying to get Israel to "set an example" in that sphere. The answer would be a forceful NO (and more crude versions in private), but it would raise the tension and conflict between two otherwise strong allies.

Since when does being president means being nice to your enemies and screwing your allies?

154 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:02:16am

re: #117 rsl775

Welcome, rsl775.

155 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:02:32am

re: #142 Desert Dog

Odessa Babes

The Black Sea is fairly warm water. I would guess there is a beach or two there

back in the USSR...

156 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:02:36am

re: #146 gman

Did Sean Penn show up for a candlelight vigil? Let me guess, the middle east doesn't count.

Nor does Cuba or Venezuela.

157 doppelganglander  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:02:38am

re: #114 pingjockey

It is Easter, of course they had to find a Christian bashing story.

The woman KILLED AN 8-YEAR-OLD GIRL! (Allegedly.) And all you see is so-called Christian-bashing? She (allegedly) abused a position of trust to harm a child. If she were a teacher, scout leader, or anything similar, that would have been mentioned too, because it is shocking and unexpected. It's shocking precisely because we expect better of a Sunday school teacher.

158 jcm  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:02:47am

re: #105 pingjockey

True, very true.

Unfortunately we are even teaching our kids at school that violence never solves anything.

Sometime the bully on the playground needs a bloody nose.
Some people need killing.
Some groups like the pirates need elimination.
Some regimes need to be remove by any means.

We are quickly forgetting the world is a harsh place and violence is a part of it.

159 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:03:01am

re: #153 transient
When you are a flaming socialist!

160 kansas  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:03:03am

re: #122 Walter L. Newton

I guess because in general, we hold Sunday school teachers to a higher set of morals, or at least a set of moral compatible with the subject they teach.

Of course the MSM wants to play this up, but you would be screaming bloody murder if this was a "muslim" and they kept that info neatly tucked away.

I'm shocked period, especially since she engages in teaching a Sunday school. Aren't you?

Well, the TV station guy who whacked off his wife's head was a Muslim, and I'm pretty sure that didn't lead in the story on CNN.

I'm appalled that anyone could kill a little child, and I don't get it. But I would think that describing what the woman did the other 167 hours in a week might be a more accurate descriptor of who she is.

161 Last Mohican  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:03:29am

Popular Obama fansite CNN.com has been running its latest pro-Obama push poll since yesterday.

Just under the latest stock market update from Friday, which has the Dow up 246.27 points, there's a link to a video called "End of recession near, economists say." And then, right under those two stories, is the poll. The question is:

President Obama says he is seeing "glimmers of hope" in the economy. Do you agree?

Not surprisingly, 66% of respondents have said yes, and 34% said no.

162 amphibian  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:03:41am

I read this yesterday or the day before, when it was posted on LFG links. "If they're not dangerous, why not just keep them in America?" had me laughing out loud. Not much love from the Euroweenies despite multiple prostrations and ass-kissings, all in our name.

I hope the Republican Party cam come up with something good in '12. So far, Jindal seems like all the bad stereotypes rolled into one, and the MSM is doing its best to fix Palin in the public mind as useless trailer trash. Thompson is of course unelectable because of insufficient hairline. All I remember on Romney was "I heard that Teh Fundamentalists don't like his Mormonism", so maybe the MSM types couldn't find anything to smear him with (Mormons are rather known for clean living -- that's a Good Thing). I fear that if we can't find another Reagan in four years, the story of Husseinovich and his successor will resemble that of Allende and Pinochet. Other possibility is, the American people will be so fat and stupid they won't know that Husseinovich is a first-class putz, and re-elect him. In that case, we're in very bad shape indeed.

Thanks for being there, LGF! I've been doing more lurking than posting lately because of a new job in new city. Medical software business got kind of soft after last Nov. 5; my (former) employers understood that hopeychange isn't going to pay as many engineers as they were employing...

163 JacksonTn  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:03:43am

re: #147 rain of lead

amazing tornado pics and vids
[Link: www.wkrn.com...]
[Link: www.wsmv.com...]

[Link: www.wtvf.com...]

That was really terrible yesterday ... my son was driving on I24 when the tornado crossed over ... the governor was in Murfreesboro this morning ... sad ... we live and die by the weather on the farms but at least ours is just crops ... it is so sad when people lose their homes and famliy ...

164 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:03:48am

re: #157 doppelganglander
Chill out. Already agreed with Walter. I don't like CNN.

165 doppelganglander  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:04:37am

re: #164 pingjockey

Chill out. Already agreed with Walter. I don't like CNN.

Sorry. I didn't see your post before I posted mine.

166 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:05:04am

re: #157 doppelganglander

The woman KILLED AN 8-YEAR-OLD GIRL! (Allegedly.) And all you see is so-called Christian-bashing? She (allegedly) abused a position of trust to harm a child. If she were a teacher, scout leader, or anything similar, that would have been mentioned too, because it is shocking and unexpected. It's shocking precisely because we expect better of a Sunday school teacher.

I don't have enough up dings to give you. I said it above, if she was muslim, some people would be screaming bloody murder if that fact was left unreported.

But, because it's a Christian, it's a plot by the MSM. I'm sure the cops waited until Easter weekend to arrest her./

167 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:05:16am

re: #128 yesandno

Doing nothing? You have got to be kidding.... He was directing someone to call St. Louis and schedule the Pizza Night at the White House. Now that takes coordination...

Had you asked about the carbon footprint of the NK missle, more people might have been outraged by the launch....

The whole pizza thing on it's own is a small thing, but it goes to his sense of entitlement. He couldn't have local pizza?
No, no he needed pizza chefs & ingredients flown in from St. Louis to creat Chicago pizza from scratch. WTF?

168 Idle Drifter  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:05:21am

re: #109 Capitalist Tool

Detroit had the incomparable Barry Sanders all those years and still couldn't hit their butts with both hands.
No wonder Sanders retired early.

I don't blame him.

169 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:05:57am

re: #165 doppelganglander
I know, crossed damn posts! hehehe!

170 Desert Dog  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:06:15am

re: #161 Last Mohican

Popular Obama fansite CNN.com has been running its latest pro-Obama push poll since yesterday.

Just under the latest stock market update from Friday, which has the Dow up 246.27 points, there's a link to a video called "End of recession near, economists say." And then, right under those two stories, is the poll. The question is:

Not surprisingly, 66% of respondents have said yes, and 34% said no.

Did they say it in a monotone manner, akin to the hypnotized or heavily medicated?

171 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:06:43am

re: #126 Ringo the Gringo

My friends are damn proud of the Obama's and think his European tour was a smashing success.

Ringo,

That's exactly it. Succeeded in what?

Where is the critical thinking here? This thinking was displayed in the video of Hitchens/Mos Def, where Mos Def stated proudly that 'he doesn't believe every think CNN tells him just because they say so.' Once Hitchens started politely taking issue with Def the volume and talk-over got louder.

We are supposed to respect this logic just because someone thinks or feels it, and worse, respect the shallow logic if espoused with charisma and style. Critical thinking is not even in the picture here.

172 rightymouse  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:06:45am

re: #122 Walter L. Newton

I guess because in general, we hold Sunday school teachers to a higher set of morals, or at least a set of moral compatible with the subject they teach.

Of course the MSM wants to play this up, but you would be screaming bloody murder if this was a "muslim" and they kept that info neatly tucked away.

I'm shocked period, especially since she engages in teaching a Sunday school. Aren't you?

True. Very odd. But then again, child abusers have been known to use the church, schools, Boy scouts, etc. for prey.
Methinks there may be a boyfriend involved. Didn't sound like she was married. Also, who leaves a suitcase in the driveway? Bizarre.

173 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:06:54am

re: #160 kansas

Well, the TV station guy who whacked off his wife's head was a Muslim, and I'm pretty sure that didn't lead in the story on CNN.

I'm appalled that anyone could kill a little child, and I don't get it. But I would think that describing what the woman did the other 167 hours in a week might be a more accurate descriptor of who she is.

You say "I'm appalled that anyone could kill a little child." In my mind, that's it, end of story, I don't care what the MSM is reporting about her religion, her this or that, I don't care if she was the pope.

But, that's just me?

174 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:07:01am

re: #167 opnion
Well there's the problem right there. A dude from St. Louis making Chicago style pizza!

175 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:07:05am

re: #151 Capitalist Tool

Sanders played for the Cowboys of Oklahoma State alongside another great- Thurman Thomas, but the team was still only second- fiddle- in Oklahoma, of course. The drudgery of being on a team that never went anywhere just had to be a real drag.


plus he was a bigtime jerk who didnt want Wayne Fontes fired...a .500 coach....I don't really think he cared much about winning...he gave the rushing title to E Smith year by sitting out the end of the game....

176 Ringo the Gringo  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:07:10am

re: #145 DEZes

Time to upgrade friends. ;)

I've upgraded a few, the long time friends I'll keep......the family members I'm stuck with.

177 doppelganglander  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:07:34am

re: #160 kansas

Well, the TV station guy who whacked off his wife's head was a Muslim, and I'm pretty sure that didn't lead in the story on CNN.

I'm appalled that anyone could kill a little child, and I don't get it. But I would think that describing what the woman did the other 167 hours in a week might be a more accurate descriptor of who she is.

The wife-beheader was very clearly identified in every story I saw as the founder of a Muslim-oriented television network. A crime like this committed by a Sunday school teacher is shocking precisely because we expect better from a person in that position. It's newsworthy, not Christian bashing.

178 THX 1138  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:07:57am

re: #44 Occasional Reader

Correction, That's FOUR fucking Somali pirates

179 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:08:12am

re: #174 pingjockey

Well there's the problem right there. A dude from St. Louis making Chicago style pizza!

Chicago style pizza period, is the problem. There is no real pizza except New York pizza.

180 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:08:32am

re: #128 yesandno

Had you asked about the carbon footprint of the NK missle, more people might have been outraged by the launch....

You're damn right. Report the total carbon released and there might be some extra strong words.

181 Shug  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:08:34am

I don't care if President Obama flew in a pizza chief.
Good pizza is important.

but what bothers me is that he ( and guys like al gore ) do the " do as I say, not as I do mantra"

Fly in your pizza chief. Knock yourself out. just stop acting like you give a crap about the environment and the poor

182 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:08:35am

re: #179 Walter L. Newton
PIZZAIST!

183 Ringo the Gringo  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:08:47am

re: #171 BigPapa

Ringo,

That's exactly it. Succeeded in what?

Where is the critical thinking here? This thinking was displayed in the video of Hitchens/Mos Def, where Mos Def stated proudly that 'he doesn't believe every think CNN tells him just because they say so.' Once Hitchens started politely taking issue with Def the volume and talk-over got louder.

We are supposed to respect this logic just because someone thinks or feels it, and worse, respect the shallow logic if espoused with charisma and style. Critical thinking is not even in the picture here.

The left, for all their pretense of sophistication, are pretty darn shallow for the most part.

184 kansas  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:09:18am

re: #173 Walter L. Newton

You say "I'm appalled that anyone could kill a little child." In my mind, that's it, end of story, I don't care what the MSM is reporting about her religion, her this or that, I don't care if she was the pope.

But, that's just me?

OK.

185 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:09:28am

re: #174 pingjockey

Well there's the problem right there. A dude from St. Louis making Chicago style pizza!

Ping -

Almost can't blame President Obama on this one. Have lived in the DC Metro.
Apart from "bar pies" the pizza was lousy.

-S-

186 doppelganglander  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:09:30am

re: #172 rightymouse

True. Very odd. But then again, child abusers have been known to use the church, schools, Boy scouts, etc. for prey.
Methinks there may be a boyfriend involved. Didn't sound like she was married. Also, who leaves a suitcase in the driveway? Bizarre.

She didn't leave the suitcase in the driveway. The "theft" of the suitcase in which the child was found is an attempt to disassociate herself from the evidence. It's clearly not working.

The article I saw indicated she is the granddaughter of the church's pastor, and his home was also searched. She may have just been disposing of evidence. We'll just have to wait for more information.

187 Truck Monkey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:09:46am

re: #63 pingjockey

I actually think moving troops out of Europe is a good idea. We're gonna need them in the Far East. Let the goddamned Euroweenies foot their own defense bills.

Europe is being taken over from within. Nothing that US troops can do about that.

188 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:10:20am

re: #185 Dr. Shalit
Ah. I've had pizza in Chicago and New York, and NY wins, IMO.

189 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:10:23am

re: #179 Walter L. Newton

Chicago style pizza period, is the problem. There is no real pizza except New York pizza.


Sorry Walter, but I am from Chicago and Chicago pizza isn't bad. That said, I prefer thin crust myself.

190 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:10:26am

re: #171 BigPapa

Ringo,

That's exactly it. Succeeded in what?

Where is the critical thinking here? This thinking was displayed in the video of Hitchens/Mos Def, where Mos Def stated proudly that 'he doesn't believe every think CNN tells him just because they say so.' Once Hitchens started politely taking issue with Def the volume and talk-over got louder.

We are supposed to respect this logic just because someone thinks or feels it, and worse, respect the shallow logic if espoused with charisma and style. Critical thinking is not even in the picture here.

An Obama supporter told me that his success on this trip may not be visible, but he planted the seeds. Riiiiiiight.

191 amphibian  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:10:43am

re: #19 Joo-LiZ

I just fail to understand how Obama doesn't realize exactly what he is doing.

It's like we aren't living on the same planet.

Well, his grandparents who raised him were commies. His mother was a commie. His "friend Frank" was a commie useful idiot of the CPUSA. His deadbeat father and Kenyan grandfather were commies. He made sure to hang out with commies at college. And to put a cherry on top of all this, he's a product of the famously honest Chicago political system.

Do you suppose he and we are working with the same facts? (Well, to answer my own rhetorical question, yes, but his and our understanding of the rules for using the facts are very different.)

192 opinionated  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:10:50am

Some of us Americans pay attention. Some of us are ignorant fools.

For many years it was the stuff of comedy on Leno and such to interview Americans on the street and realize that they had zero knowledge of current events and history. It was so funny.

It's not a joke anymore. Those type fools are now the majorities who are supporting Obama on his magic carpet ride whose destination is the end of American exceptionalism.

The ignorant fools will continue to be fools. Unfortunately for us, who are aware, who will realize as we take every step down from that shining hill as described by Ronald Reagan, it will be very very painful.

193 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:10:57am

re: #183 Ringo the Gringo

The left, for all their pretense of sophistication, are pretty darn shallow for the most part.

They don't read.

194 Desert Dog  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:11:09am

re: #179 Walter L. Newton

Chicago style pizza period, is the problem. There is no real pizza except New York pizza.

Damn straight! I am an unbiased neutral third party in this pizza war.....I've tasted both, many, many times.....sorry Chicago, your pizza is not as good

195 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:11:16am

Y'all have a fine weekend. Off to the Great Egg Hunt!

196 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:11:21am

The pirate situation gets worse:


U.S.-Owned Tugboat With Italians Aboard Hijacked Off Somalia

197 doppelganglander  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:11:25am

re: #166 Walter L. Newton

I don't have enough up dings to give you. I said it above, if she was muslim, some people would be screaming bloody murder if that fact was left unreported.

But, because it's a Christian, it's a plot by the MSM. I'm sure the cops waited until Easter weekend to arrest her./

Thanks, Walter.

198 NYCHardhat  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:11:29am

Naive. What a naive man.

199 jcm  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:11:29am

re: #174 pingjockey

Well there's the problem right there. A dude from St. Louis making Chicago style pizza!

IMPEACH OBAMA FOR CRIMES AGAINST PIZZA!

200 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:11:36am

re: #121 doppelganglander

You've got to admit it's newsworthy. First of all, when was the last time you heard of a woman murdering a child who wasn't her own or in her care? Second, a Sunday school teacher? It's unexpected and therefore interesting. If she'd been a scout leader, they would have mentioned that.

I think she is the granddaughter of the minister of that church, and lived with her grandfather. I think that was her "job" - so it did not seem unreasonable to me to describe her that way.

She has apparently had some mental problems prior to this.

201 NYCHardhat  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:12:19am

re: #196 Dark_Falcon

The pirate situation gets worse:


U.S.-Owned Tugboat With Italians Aboard Hijacked Off Somalia

The blood is in the water. That is how they feed.

202 Shug  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:12:34am

I vote for NY Pizza.

Chicago pizza crust is just too damned thick

203 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:12:38am

re: #188 pingjockey

Ah. I've had pizza in Chicago and New York, and NY wins, IMO.

NY pizza is so elaborate that it becomes something else....ask any Italian and they will tell you, thing crust, good sauce and tons of motzerella....that's Italian pizza

204 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:12:49am

re: #158 jcm

"War is not the ANSWER"
"No Blood For Oil"
"War is Peace"
"Give Peace a Chance"
"Freedom is Slavery"

205 NYCHardhat  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:13:00am

re: #202 Shug

I vote for NY Pizza.

Chicago pizza crust is just too damned thick

Oh I love you. Whoever you may be.

206 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:13:02am

re: #188 pingjockey

Ah. I've had pizza in Chicago and New York, and NY wins, IMO.

I had pizza in Italy. And it sucked, I broke a tooth! Who puts olives with PITS on a pizza?

207 doppelganglander  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:13:11am

re: #200 reine.de.tout

I think she is the granddaughter of the minister of that church, and lived with her grandfather. I think that was her "job" - so it did not seem unreasonable to me to describe her that way.

She has apparently had some mental problems prior to this.

No doubt. It's just a tragedy all around and I feel awful for the family.

208 Shug  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:13:27am

All we are saying......is Give Pizza a chance

209 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:13:33am

re: #201 NYCHardhat

The blood is in the water. That is how they feed.

There is a pic up on Drudge.

210 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:13:35am

Washington Monthly: A VOICE IN THE WILDERNESS....

Long-time readers may recall that for about two years, I edited the "Blog Report" for Salon.com. Every day, I'd feature a couple of dozen posts from the left and right, summarizing what was on the minds of many bloggers. After a couple of years, I more or less created informal categories for the various conservative bloggers -- ranging from "thoughtful" to "borderline dangerous," with most somewhere in between.

What I didn't expect was to see Charles Johnson's "Little Green Footballs" emerge as a reform-minded blog for the right.
......
After having read Little Green Footballs over the years, I didn't expect it to be one of the sites urging conservatives to pull back from the fringes and be more responsible. It's a pleasant surprise.

Here's hoping others Charles Johnson's lead.

211 solomonpanting  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:13:57am

re: #190 opnion

An Obama supporter told me that his success on this trip may not be visible, but he planted the seeds. Riiiiiiight.

And the seeds are infertile.
Obama must really love America because, under the old adage, "You only hurt the one you love."

212 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:14:00am

re: #206 Nevergiveup

I had pizza in Italy. And it sucked, I broke a tooth! Who puts olives with PITS on a pizza?

Someone who has never been sued.

213 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:14:05am

re: #179 Walter L. Newton

Chicago style pizza period, is the problem. There is no real pizza except New York pizza.

Walter! You go too far sir. Pizza like New York pizza that can be folded is not pizza, it is a sandwich! Behead those who insult Chicago pizza.
Pizza Akbar!

214 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:14:06am

Just so folks are clear on what we are dealing with in terms of the "Pirates" off of Somalia, WAPO tells us this today -

Senior Obama administration officials are debating how to address a potential terrorist threat to U.S. interests from a Somali extremist group, with some in the military advocating strikes against its training camps. But many officials maintain that uncertainty about the intentions of the al-Shabab organization dictates a more patient, nonmilitary approach.

Al-Shabab, whose fighters have battled Ethiopian occupiers and the tenuous Somali government, poses a dilemma for the administration, according to several senior national security officials who outlined the debate only on the condition of anonymity.

The organization's rapid expansion, ties between its leaders and al-Qaeda, and the presence of Americans and Europeans in its camps have raised the question of whether a preemptive strike is warranted. Yet the group's objectives have thus far been domestic, and officials say that U.S. intelligence has no evidence it is planning attacks outside Somalia.

Unreal.

We live in a time of un-reality. The "reality based community" has taken over and considers attacking ships on the high seas a domestic political activity and is therefore flummoxed as to what to do about it.

For those on this board who tell us that we can't act against the sponsors of these "Pirates" on the ground, let me point out something - THEY ARE AN AL QAEDA LINKED TERROR ORGANIZATION.

And when you pay them ransom, you pay Al Qaeda.

No. Other. Way. Around. It.

215 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:14:40am

re: #209 loppyd

There is a pic up on Drudge.

That is of the French family that the French Military freed that other day, but the dad did die unfortunately.

216 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:14:47am

re: #214 karmic_inquisitor

That made me want to go back to bed more than before.

217 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:15:15am

re: #215 Nevergiveup

That is of the French family that the French Military freed that other day, but the dad did die unfortunately.

This is total BULLSHIT.

218 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:15:50am

re: #174 pingjockey

Well there's the problem right there. A dude from St. Louis making Chicago style pizza!

Obama & his supporters did not even see the irony.

219 solomonpanting  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:16:00am

re: #208 Shug

All we are saying......is Give Pizza a chance

Take another pizza my heart....

220 doppelganglander  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:16:14am

When the pizza wars break out, it's time for me to go. Later, lizards.

221 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:16:18am

re: #213 opnion

Walter! You go too far sir. Pizza like New York pizza that can be folded is not pizza, it is a sandwich! Behead those who insult Chicago pizza.
Pizza Akbar!

I'm usually polite and very multicultural about all topics here on LGF, but sir, you are nuts.

There is no such thing as pizza anyplace other than NY. All others are demon spawn of Merlin or something.

222 NYCHardhat  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:16:43am

re: #213 opnion

Walter! You go too far sir. Pizza like New York pizza that can be folded is not pizza, it is a sandwich! Behead those who insult Chicago pizza.
Pizza Akbar!

LMAO!. IMHO, the pizza in NYC is good only because of the water that is used in making the pizza dough. I knew a guy that had a place in Florida and he would impot NYC (Catskill) water via tanker truck down to Florida to make his bread and dough.

223 NelsFree  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:16:45am

re: #63 pingjockey

I actually think moving troops out of Europe is a good idea. We're gonna need them in the Far East. Let the goddamned Euroweenies foot their own defense bills.

Russia will be VERY happy to see the US troops leave.

224 kansas  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:17:15am

re: #219 solomonpanting

Heartclogger, take another little pizza my heart....
You know you got it, if it makes you feel fat.

225 Capitalist Tool  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:18:09am

re: #175 albusteve

plus he was a bigtime jerk who didnt want Wayne Fontes fired...a .500 coach....I don't really think he cared much about winning...he gave the rushing title to E Smith year by sitting out the end of the game....

Au contraire- Sanders was one of the classiest guys ever in pro football. He was always humble and was not known to celebrate as so many others did. He always always gave credit to his teammates with each of his successes and didn't bad- mouth others.

Barry Sanders didn't care about winning? That's the exact reason he quit, because he knew Detroit wasn't going anywhere. His heart was broken because of their lack of competitiveness, year after year. They got to the playoffs four times with Barry, I think, but went no further.
It's widely recognized that Barry would have likely been number one in the NFL all- time rushing stats if he had stayed another season and Sanders knew that, too. He just couldn't take the culture of losing at Detroit any more.

226 realwest  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:18:11am

re: #203 albusteve Ah, not really my friend! NYC Pizza is just that: VERY thin crust, lots of red sauce, lotsa oil, and Mozzarella - and MAYBE some pepperoni or sausage. That's it.
It's Chicago Pizza that doesn't resemble Pizza - Chicago Pizza is just a glorified casserole!
/ducks!

227 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:18:21am

Best late night pizza I've ever had was in Boston. We call it the hole in the wall because it's just a little take out with a window you order and pay at.

Right around the corner from the Black Rose.

228 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:18:37am

re: #221 Walter L. Newton

I'm usually polite and very multicultural about all topics here on LGF, but sir, you are nuts.

There is no such thing as pizza anyplace other than NY. All others are demon spawn of Merlin or something.

Walter I appreciate you comment on my mental health & right back at ya.
Again, if you can fold it, it's a sandwich.

229 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:18:49am

re: #226 realwest

Ah, not really my friend! NYC Pizza is just that: VERY thin crust, lots of red sauce, lotsa oil, and Mozzarella - and MAYBE some pepperoni or sausage. That's it.
It's Chicago Pizza that doesn't resemble Pizza - Chicago Pizza is just a glorified casserole!
/ducks!

One of the few times I agree with you 100 percent.

230 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:19:36am

re: #222 NYCHardhat

LMAO!. IMHO, the pizza in NYC is good only because of the water that is used in making the pizza dough. I knew a guy that had a place in Florida and he would impot NYC (Catskill) water via tanker truck down to Florida to make his bread and dough.

Actually, it's a matter of what your used to.

231 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:20:01am

This is the moment a woman was mauled by a polar bear after she jumped into its enclosure at Berlin Zoo.

[Link: news.sky.com...]

No doubt an Obama supporter?

232 yesandno  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:20:15am

re: #167 opnion

The whole pizza thing on it's own is a small thing, but it goes to his sense of entitlement. He couldn't have local pizza?
No, no he needed pizza chefs & ingredients flown in from St. Louis to creat Chicago pizza from scratch. WTF?

re: #185 Dr. Shalit

Ping -

Could have had DiGiorno!

Almost can't blame President Obama on this one. Have lived in the DC Metro.
Apart from "bar pies" the pizza was lousy.

-S-

In a world gone crazy, the pizza is a small thing. But in a way, it truly is indicative of someone "too good" to have pizza made by the pizzeria in Washington, DC. Apparently no one in DC puts arugala on the top... He eats Waygu beef because he is too good to eat otherwise. Michelle orders lobster...He'd better remain wealthy or he'd starve.

233 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:20:22am

re: #183 Ringo the Gringo

I think shallow is too generous. We're talking a puddle of deep thought here.

I wanted Hitchens to just demolish Def but he was too polite. Of course, Hitchens would have been accused of racism should he have made it look bad. That is very cynical but well inside the realms of possibility.

PS: Love your site. Consider me a fan!

234 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:21:03am

re: #231 Nevergiveup

This is the moment a woman was mauled by a polar bear after she jumped into its enclosure at Berlin Zoo.

[Link: news.sky.com...]

No doubt an Obama supporter?

Is it wrong that I just laughed - heartily?

235 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:21:40am

re: #230 opnion

Actually, it's a matter of what your used to.

Which is unfortunate, since there are people who have never had authentic pizza from New York, and they go through life thinking they know what pizza is, but they are sadly wrong. Sort of like voting for democrats. I'm glad that you understand the problem.

236 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:22:07am

re: #221 Walter L. Newton

I'm usually polite and very multicultural about all topics here on LGF, but sir, you are nuts.

There is no such thing as pizza anyplace other than NY. All others are demon spawn of Merlin or something.

crazy...you are certified
Chicago has excellent pizza and all other types of food...easily comparable to NY

237 realwest  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:22:11am

re: #234 loppyd
Sadly loppyd, I have to say yes it's wrong that you laughed...........so heartily!

238 lifeofthemind  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:22:17am

Very tragic story. Adolescent eating behind the wheel got killed in a car wreck.
They threw him away. and buried the pizza.

239 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:23:09am

re: #226 realwest

Ah, not really my friend! NYC Pizza is just that: VERY thin crust, lots of red sauce, lotsa oil, and Mozzarella - and MAYBE some pepperoni or sausage. That's it.
It's Chicago Pizza that doesn't resemble Pizza - Chicago Pizza is just a glorified casserole!
/ducks!

Real, you obviously had a gourmet disconnect during your time in NYC.
Chicago pizza is real pizza. NY Pizza is folded like a sadwich & the crust is not crisp. Stop the madness!

240 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:23:38am

I'm sensing an impending Chicago vs NY pizza meltdown that will rival the worse creo/evo threads.

Stinky! Bring the boot!

241 yesandno  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:23:41am

re: #231 Nevergiveup

This is the moment a woman was mauled by a polar bear after she jumped into its enclosure at Berlin Zoo.

[Link: news.sky.com...]

No doubt an Obama supporter?


What....he didn't offer her a COKE?

242 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:24:02am

re: #239 opnion

Real, you obviously had a gourmet disconnect during your time in NYC.
Chicago pizza is real pizza. NY Pizza is folded like a sadwich & the crust is not crisp. Stop the madness!

look at the pizza in any NY deli window...unreal how much stuff they put on them

243 rightymouse  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:24:11am

re: #186 doppelganglander

She didn't leave the suitcase in the driveway. The "theft" of the suitcase in which the child was found is an attempt to disassociate herself from the evidence. It's clearly not working.

The article I saw indicated she is the granddaughter of the church's pastor, and his home was also searched. She may have just been disposing of evidence. We'll just have to wait for more information.

Bizarre.

Huckaby also said she had left her suitcase in the driveway that day, and it was missing.

"It’s not my grandfather’s," Huckaby told the Tracy Press of the missing suitcase. “It’s mine and someone took it.”

244 realwest  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:24:12am

re: #232 yesandno
Nah, there's a franchise called "California Pizza" which puts Arugula and other gazing type's of lettuce and all on top of a pizza crust and they call it "Salad Pizza".

245 kansas  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:24:36am

My wife's family live about 1 hour north of NY. She missed NY pizza so when we are there we have it. I just love that soggy mass of dough and cheese that you have to wad up to get into your mouth. Umm good.

246 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:24:41am

re: #236 albusteve

crazy...you are certified
Chicago has excellent pizza and all other types of food...easily comparable to NY

The only redeeming thing about Chicago pizza is I don't know anyone who's life has sudden;y gone from bad to worst just because they insist in eating it.

Thanks goodness for small things.

247 jcm  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:24:56am

re: #231 Nevergiveup

This is the moment a woman was mauled by a polar bear after she jumped into its enclosure at Berlin Zoo.

[Link: news.sky.com...]

No doubt an Obama supporter?

Ahhhh, look at the cute polar bear / pirate / terrorist.

Same malfunction.

248 amphibian  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:25:22am

re: #63 pingjockey

I actually think moving troops out of Europe is a good idea. We're gonna need them in the Far East. Let the goddamned Euroweenies foot their own defense bills.

You think? My impression of China is, it seems more of less content to stay in its sandbox, with maybe colonialist excursions into Africa. I think they're waiting for America to decline before they invade Taiwan, for instance. Do you think otherwise?

As for Europe, maybe. Europe is going to be part of either the New Caliphate or the New Ottoman Empire in a few decades. How do they differ? One is big, young and aggressive, the other is big, fat and lethargic.

249 Scion9  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:25:37am

re: #132 Walter L. Newton

If it's true, what's the problem? If she was Muslim, and they kept that quiet, would that be ok?

They keep murders, and the details on those murders quiet all the time. On a daily basis basically. Good luck finding a comprehensive report on every single murder in America, right down to the profession, hobbies and relationship of either the victim or perpetrator.

There is no "if" in the equation. It is currently not Ok that they are currently 'keeping quiet', and the fact that murders that occur today will go practically unreported.

I won't rake anyone over the coals for including lots of details in a news report; but there is absolutely no "If" when it comes to not reporting details that are inconvenient to their bias. Especially when those details are "racist".

Why isn't the headline about the latest gangland shooting, et cetera? Can't advertise that we basically have active ethnocentric paramilitary youth movements in our cities. Or ultraviolent organized criminals that essentially control our southern border. Personally, I find that a lot more interesting and disturbing than a Sunday School teacher murderer (not that I don't find it interesting and disturbing at all though).

Why aren't these murders (including mass murders) headlines every. single. day. No "if" about selective reporting at all. Especially considering a young Muslim American woman apparently was arrested for a child murder very recently (last week I believe), and it is of course not a headline, anywhere (not that it even should be, and part of the problem is that the Sunday School teachers victim was a cute little white girl, which plays into a subset of 'Missing White Woman Syndrome'.)

I would still rather have news concerning the massive amount of gang and crime related violence that happens every single day, as it is much more relevant to the actually situation of the country than random nutjobs; but it likewise will continue to go almost completely unreported by major news outlets in favor of sensationalist stories that fit a specific narrative.

250 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:26:23am

re: #231 Nevergiveup

This is the moment a woman was mauled by a polar bear after she jumped into its enclosure at Berlin Zoo.

[Link: news.sky.com...]

No doubt an Obama supporter?

I can't find myself mustering any sympathy for someone that stupid. She came close to earning a Darwin Award, though thankfully she did not. I hope she has learned her lesson.

251 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:26:39am

re: #235 Walter L. Newton

Which is unfortunate, since there are people who have never had authentic pizza from New York, and they go through life thinking they know what pizza is, but they are sadly wrong. Sort of like voting for democrats. I'm glad that you understand the problem.

My point was that all my sympathy goes to New Yorkers who have been denied the gastronomic delight of true Chicago pizza.
New Yorkers do tend to vote Democrat.

252 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:26:45am

re: #244 realwest

I love that Salad Pizza from CPK. I get it when I go to Oahu.

However, sometimes the best pizza is simple and traditional.... and served with cold beer.

253 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:27:26am

re: #45 quickjustice

You know, I thought about what you posted--and I agree completely.

254 realwest  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:28:30am

re: #239 opnion opnion, it's only cause I like you that I don't respond the way I should.
There are eleventymillion pizza parlors (sometimes called Italian Restaurants) in NYC and in my 35 years there I ate at many of them. Deep dish (or casserole) pizza doesn't have a crisp crust - it has a cakeish lower crust and it's only cause they have to cook it long enough to cook all the crap inside the casserole that the top crust is crisp.
Pizza is meant to be Oily, thin crust, mostly sauce and cheese and folded over only in the vain hope that the oil won't dribble down your chin!

255 jaunte  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:28:34am

re: #240 BigPapa

I'm sensing an impending Chicago vs NY pizza meltdown that will rival the worse creo/evo threads.

Stinky! Bring the boot!

Where are all the transitional pizza forms?!?

256 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:28:45am

re: #246 Walter L. Newton

The only redeeming thing about Chicago pizza is I don't know anyone who's life has sudden;y gone from bad to worst just because they insist in eating it.

Thanks goodness for small things.

I have never seen apples on a Chicago pizza like I have in NY, or berries....wtf?

257 jwb7605  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:29:17am

re: #251 opnion

My point was that all my sympathy goes to New Yorkers who have been denied the gastronomic delight of true Chicago pizza.
New Yorkers do tend to vote Democrat.

Lurking, but that last sentence drips with ... nevermind ... from a sentence defending Chicago!
Makes me want a nice slice of my favorite "cardiac arrest" pizza.

258 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:29:35am

re: #248 amphibian

You think? My impression of China is, it seems more of less content to stay in its sandbox, with maybe colonialist excursions into Africa. I think they're waiting for America to decline before they invade Taiwan, for instance. Do you think otherwise?

As for Europe, maybe. Europe is going to be part of either the New Caliphate or the New Ottoman Empire in a few decades. How do they differ? One is big, young and aggressive, the other is big, fat and lethargic.

Boy. Haven't heard such off-the-cuff succinct analysis--yet cleverly worded-- in a while.

259 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:30:01am

re: #249 Scion9

I'll make it simple, I personally don't care if she is a Sunday school teacher and they report it, or if she is a radical muslim and they DON't report it.

My concern is only with the fact that this woman may have killed the kid.

End of the story for me.

260 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:30:08am

You know who else is "not afraid of the Americans"? Somali pirates.

Somebody find Obama a pair of balls.

261 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:30:37am

re: #171 BigPapa

Speaking of Mos Def....this is a very thoughtful piece written by an African American who is not impressed with Def's shtick.

A Great Black Actor Goes Loco

The second Dante Terrell Smith lives up to his silly nickname. Not long ago, after reading a black political blog, I found myself moving along, link to link, until I went from Smith’s making hilarious fun of another rapper’s insipid lyrics to a very disturbing appearance he made with Cornel West in a discussion with Bill Maher on Real Time some time shortly before the presidential election. That was a gully-low moment.

I found it disturbing because it was the contrived Mutt and Jeff act of a public—or pop—black intellectual and a guy from the bottom. Successful people perform that act in order to prove that they are still connected to the community. While Cornel West pretended to sympathize with “where he was coming from,” the actor ran through the counterfeit lack of sense we see too frequently in those always trying to make it clear that they have not “left the ‘hood.” Their mask of brain rot allows them to genuflect in the face of ignorance.

Just a few weeks ago, Smith appeared on Real Time with Salman Rushdie and Christopher Hitchens, but his pretentious "brother from the projects" act did not go over well. His supposed courage to "express an unpopular opinion" was taken by Hitchens as an insult to the common intellectual knowledge that anyone should have about big issues in the contemporary world. Unlike those white Americans who have presented black illogic as a form of popular entertainment since the days of Malcolm X and Eldridge Cleaver, Hitchens was not having it and challenged Smith to back up his purported opinions. This is something the British are much better at than their American counterparts. Stuck in his act, Smith wavered forward, sinking with every syllable he uttered. That's how it goes: When the right white people are encountered, contrived ethnic authenticity doesn't cut it.

262 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:30:58am

Finally ... a topic I can sink my teeth into ...

New Haven pizza (Sally's or Pepe's) is as good or better than any NY or Chi pizza. And they are both on the same street (Wooster St) about 2 blocks apart.

263 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:31:02am

re: #252 BigPapa

I love that Salad Pizza from CPK. I get it when I go to Oahu.

However, sometimes the best pizza is simple and traditional.... and served with cold beer.

..or a nice glass of house red.

264 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:31:35am

re: #262 _RememberTonyC

Finally ... a topic I can sink my teeth into ...

New Haven pizza (Sally's or Pepe's) is as good or better than any NY or Chi pizza. And they are both on the same street (Wooster St) about 2 blocks apart.

what's a new haven?

265 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:31:48am

re: #256 albusteve

I have never seen apples on a Chicago pizza like I have in NY, or berries....wtf?

I am studied the pizza scripture, and I am content in my knowledge and faith in New York pizza. There is no logical argument here. Thank you.

Next you will be telling me that New York pizza evolved from some other inferior foodstuff.

266 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:32:06am

re: #237 realwest

Sadly loppyd, I have to say yes it's wrong that you laughed...........so heartily!

boo

267 realwest  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:32:48am

re: #242 albusteve
"NY deli" ? I thought we were talking about Italian eateries (also known as Pizza Parlors!).

268 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:33:06am

re: #264 albusteve

what's a new haven?

New Haven, Connecticut ... home of Yale University and some of the best Italian food in the state.

269 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:33:15am

re: #265 Walter L. Newton

I am studied the pizza scripture, and I am content in my knowledge and faith in New York pizza. There is no logical argument here. Thank you.

Next you will be telling me that New York pizza evolved from some other inferior foodstuff.

NY pizza has been overrun by lunatics and foodbats...NY pizza is in severe danger of becoming irrelevant

270 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:33:23am

re: #262 _RememberTonyC

Finally ... a topic I can sink my teeth into ...

New Haven pizza (Sally's or Pepe's) is as good or better than any NY or Chi pizza. And they are both on the same street (Wooster St) about 2 blocks apart.

Are either of those near that famous burger place where they don't give you condiments and cook the burgers in what appear to be mini stoves?

271 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:33:43am

re: #246 Walter L. Newton

The only redeeming thing about Chicago pizza is I don't know anyone who's life has sudden;y gone from bad to worst just because they insist in eating it.

Thanks goodness for small things.

Which, I can attest, is NOT the case for the "California Pizza Kitchen" restaurant chain. I spent about two days on the pot because of their standards of kitchen hygiene. Don't eat there.

272 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:34:03am

re: #267 realwest

"NY deli" ? I thought we were talking about Italian eateries (also known as Pizza Parlors!).

I'm just a tourist...be kind to me

273 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:34:39am

re: #269 albusteve

NY pizza has been overrun by lunatics and foodbats...NY pizza is in severe danger of becoming irrelevant

I will refer you to the Discover Pizza Institute for all my talking points about New York Pizza for now on.

274 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:34:50am

re: #268 _RememberTonyC

New Haven, Connecticut ... home of Yale University and some of the best Italian food in the state.

just teasing...been there

275 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:34:58am

re: #261 loppyd

I witnessed this debacle. In a way, it's sad--but since I have this experience almost every working day in some of the colleges where I teach--it mirrors what I saw. The few that don't, are embarrassed, but don't usually have the nerve to call out the one who's using that schtick.

276 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:35:08am

re: #265 Walter L. Newton

I am studied the pizza scripture, and I am content in my knowledge and faith in New York pizza. There is no logical argument here. Thank you.

Next you will be telling me that New York pizza evolved from some other inferior foodstuff.

No, its creation in irreducibly complex. Teach the Controversy!

//////////

277 realwest  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:35:50am

re: #248 amphibian
Well

My impression of China is, it seems more of less content to stay in its sandbox, with maybe colonialist excursions into Africa.

since they've been building ocean going naval vessels - aircraft carriers and what will wind up being Aegis Class cruisers (thank you, Bill Clinton!) I have to think they are looking globally. And I'm not gonna worry about Taiwan until China starts to build HUGE numbers of amphibious landing ships.

278 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:35:56am

re: #270 loppyd

Are either of those near that famous burger place where they don't give you condiments and cook the burgers in what appear to be mini stoves?

this is the place [Link: gonewengland.about.com...]

New Haven isn't that huge, so I'm sure they're near each other.

279 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:36:09am

re: #261 loppyd

Speaking of Mos Def....this is a very thoughtful piece written by an African American who is not impressed with Def's shtick.

A Great Black Actor Goes Loco

Upding. That's what I respect most about Hitchens; he doesn't put up with bullshit.

280 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:36:24am

re: #273 Walter L. Newton

You are so funny, Walt!
The origin of the pizzies?

281 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:36:34am

re: #274 albusteve

just teasing...been there


wasn't sure ... I know you're from the heartland!

282 realwest  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:36:54am

re: #251 opnion
"New Yorkers do tend to vote Democrat."
And Chicago folks vote....................?! LOL!

283 rightymouse  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:37:38am

re: #282 realwest

"New Yorkers do tend to vote Democrat."
And Chicago folks vote....................?! LOL!

lol!

Happy Birthday, BTW. :)

284 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:37:41am

re: #275 katemaclaren

I witnessed this debacle. In a way, it's sad--but since I have this experience almost every working day in some of the colleges where I teach--it mirrors what I saw. The few that don't, are embarrassed, but don't usually have the nerve to call out the one who's using that schtick.

I didn't see it live, but have watched the video.

There seems to be a lot of fear on the part of African Americans who don't want to be associated with this behavior. The hell they have to pay makes it very hard to speak out. Look at what happened to Bill Cosby.

285 Truck Monkey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:37:56am

re: #167 opnion

The whole pizza thing on it's own is a small thing, but it goes to his sense of entitlement. He couldn't have local pizza?
No, no he needed pizza chefs & ingredients flown in from St. Louis to creat Chicago pizza from scratch. WTF?

Have you had DC pizza? It really sucks.

286 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:38:04am

re: #246 Walter L. Newton

The only redeeming thing about Chicago pizza is I don't know anyone who's life has sudden;y gone from bad to worst just because they insist in eating it.

Thanks goodness for small things.


Walter this is pizza Jihad! Chicago pizza & Da Bears are sacred institutions.
This is pizza wars & calls for serious taste testing.

287 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:38:20am

re: #282 realwest

"New Yorkers do tend to vote Democrat."
And Chicago folks vote Democrat early and often! LOL!

fixed

288 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:38:23am

re: #278 _RememberTonyC

this is the place [Link: gonewengland.about.com...]

New Haven isn't that huge, so I'm sure they're near each other.

I was there for a wedding - ate some fantastic pizza late night, but I don't know the name.

289 realwest  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:38:27am

re: #252 BigPapa
YES! Cold Beer in a FROSTED MUG! Course in my case it'd have to be O'Douls but still...........!

290 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:38:30am

re: #279 Zimriel

Upding. That's what I respect most about Hitchens; he doesn't put up with bullshit.

Agree. Hitchens, right or wrong, is fearless--and he can actually ARTICULATE his reasoning.

291 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:38:59am

re: #210 Killgore Trout

Washington Monthly: A VOICE IN THE WILDERNESS....
After having read Little Green Footballs over the years, I didn't expect it to be one of the sites urging conservatives to pull back from the fringes and be more responsible. It's a pleasant surprise.

Watch this be cited as "Strange New Respect" by Jeff Goldstein and the HotAir commenters.

292 irongrampa  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:39:10am

Damn, I miss W.

293 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:39:39am

re: #261 loppyd

Speaking of Mos Def....this is a very thoughtful piece written by an African American who is not impressed with Def's shtick.



Michelle Obama is right and that is why we would all do well to expect, even demand, more from people like Dante Terrell Smith and Cornel West. Stop buck dancing for dummies. Remember: A mind is a terrible thing to waste—especially on pop superficiality and academic blather sticky with an irresponsible eloquence. That educated lingo is used to sweeten biscuits so moldy no one should be expected to swallow them. As one history teacher wrote me about West, "Things start to go downhill for intellectuals after they release their first rap album."

Wow loppyd, great find. Crouch just nailed it.

294 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:40:11am

re: #292 irongrampa

Damn, I miss W.



You and I both need one of these.

295 Idle Drifter  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:40:28am

re: #158 jcm

Unfortunately we are even teaching our kids at school that violence never solves anything.

Sometime the bully on the playground needs a bloody nose.
Some people need killing.
Some groups like the pirates need elimination.
Some regimes need to be remove by any means.

We are quickly forgetting the world is a harsh place and violence is a part of it.

The world will look up and shout 'Save Us!'

And I'll whisper......."No!"///Rorschach


To the more Progressive mind violence can be suppressed with nonviolent means. Such as a serial rapist can be reformed. They'll point to example after example of nonviolence working. Of course they're delusional, contracting deeper into their psyche when confronted with the reality that nonviolent means to ending conflict is the exception of history and not the rule.

296 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:40:34am

re: #288 loppyd

I was there for a wedding - ate some fantastic pizza late night, but I don't know the name.

Well, find out! Forward it to the White House fer cryin out loud!

297 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:40:59am

re: #288 loppyd

I was there for a wedding - ate some fantastic pizza late night, but I don't know the name.


if you live in Massachusetts, Pepe's Pizza opened a place off Interstate 84 in Manchester, CT. I tried it once (it's much closer to my home than New haven) and it was really good. Maybe not quite as good as the original place in New haven, but better than anything else in the area.

298 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:41:13am

re: #292 irongrampa

I wonder how he'd be handling the pirate crisis?

299 realwest  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:41:56am

re: #256 albusteve
Honestly my friend I don't know where in the hell you buy your pizza in NYC - but first of all, NEVER buy Pizza from a NY DELI! NYC Deli's are wonderful at deli foods - corned beef, pastrami, brisket - all kinds of good old fashioned artery clogging foods, but NEVER PIZZA!

300 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:42:12am

re: #286 opnion

Walter this is pizza Jihad! Chicago pizza & Da Bears are sacred institutions. This is pizza wars & calls for serious taste testing.

That's the jive you Chicago pizza fans always come back with. well, it won't work here, bucko. I'm not so stupid to think that we can have a taste test when I already know that Chicago pizza KILLS.

Who come up with this idea for a Chicago pizza taste test, Tony Soprano?

301 Former Belgian  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:42:27am

re: #91 quickjustice

I don't disagree. As I said before, I disagree with this policy, but the Europeans don't yet understand that Obama is serious about winding down the U.S. as a global military power.

In doing so he's actually taking a page out of the EUranian playbook. There's no way he can pay for his grandiose social engineering programs without military budget cuts. Not even with the tax increases he is mulling (provided that he can even get them approved).

302 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:42:29am

re: #297 _RememberTonyC

if you live in Massachusetts, Pepe's Pizza opened a place off Interstate 84 in Manchester, CT. I tried it once (it's much closer to my home than New haven) and it was really good. Maybe not quite as good as the original place in New haven, but better than anything else in the area.

I live on the North Shore so I don't make it down there too often. But I'll have to try to remember that the next time I pass through. Thanks!

303 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:42:47am

re: #281 _RememberTonyC

wasn't sure ... I know you're from the heartland!

my best friend went to Wesleyan and I used to drive over and visit all the time....have a good buddy in Bridgeport as well

304 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:43:19am

re: #296 katemaclaren

Well, find out! Forward it to the White House fer cryin out loud!

No way. He's already ruining my vacation plans. I am not sharing.

305 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:43:20am

re: #282 realwest

"New Yorkers do tend to vote Democrat."
And Chicago folks vote....................?! LOL!

Ok, ya got me there.

306 CEQAttorney  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:44:07am

At what point do we have to admit that our current President is an national embarrassment.

307 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:44:13am

re: #293 BigPapa

Thanks. I loathe Tina Brown, but check out the Daily Beast every morning and that caught my eye.

308 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:44:21am

For those lizards new to right-wing cant, here is the definition of Strange New Respect: it is a label the Right gives to the praise from liberals which conservatives get when they turn coat.

The far Right has been sticking this label on any praise any conservative might get from a liberal whenever that conservative points out worrying facts about the far Right.

309 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:44:33am

re: #303 albusteve

my best friend went to Wesleyan and I used to drive over and visit all the time....have a good buddy in Bridgeport as well


Wesleyan is a great school ... although Middletown has become a bit of a pit. Although there is a great Chinese place in town (Forbidden City) which is as good as any I have had outside of Chinatown.

310 albusteve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:44:41am

re: #299 realwest

Honestly my friend I don't know where in the hell you buy your pizza in NYC - but first of all, NEVER buy Pizza from a NY DELI! NYC Deli's are wonderful at deli foods - corned beef, pastrami, brisket - all kinds of good old fashioned artery clogging foods, but NEVER PIZZA!

I've eaten all over town...it just amazes me the pizza art in the deli windows...fantastic city for a hayseed like myself

311 Dave the.....  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:44:45am

This reminds me of a Carter story. Those around then said it was very embarrassing when Jimmy Carter went to Europe, and Helmut Schmidt (chancellor) had to lecture Carter on economic principles.

312 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:45:20am

re: #308 Zimriel

That sounds thoroughly confusing.

313 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:45:51am

re: #302 loppyd

I live on the North Shore so I don't make it down there too often. But I'll have to try to remember that the next time I pass through. Thanks!

I grew up in Brockton and used to get some great pizza at Christos (Greek style). By the way ... rough start for the Sawx ...

314 opnion  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:46:23am

re: #300 Walter L. Newton

That's the jive you Chicago pizza fans always come back with. well, it won't work here, bucko. I'm not so stupid to think that we can have a taste test when I already know that Chicago pizza KILLS.

Who come up with this idea for a Chicago pizza taste test, Tony Soprano?


Walter, Tony Soprano woud defiitely be a NY pizza gut.
I saw him have some with Big Pussy before he smoked him.
A tasted test is the only way to stop the madness.

315 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:47:03am

re: #311 Dave the.....

This reminds me of a Carter story. Those around then said it was very embarrassing when Jimmy Carter went to Europe, and Helmut Schmidt (chancellor) had to lecture Carter on economic principles.

"You know the Germans, they make good stuff."
- Vince, Sham-Wow! guy

316 realwest  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:47:03am

re: #283 rightymouse
Ah, thank you righty! How are you doing today?!

317 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:49:09am

re: #313 _RememberTonyC

I grew up in Brockton and used to get some great pizza at Christos (Greek style). By the way ... rough start for the Sawx ...

I end up in Brockton for work now and then. When we have a case in Plymouth County we usually file in Brockton because it is closer (not much, but still).

What street is it on?

I slept through that mess last night.

318 realwest  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:49:34am

re: #294 loppyd Ya know, if I could afford to buy a car - even just a junker, I'd buy it just to put that bumpersticker on it!

319 rightymouse  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:52:35am

re: #316 realwest

Ah, thank you righty! How are you doing today?!

Am good! Thanky!

Hope all is well with you and your family. :)

Going to muck in the kitchen soon. Have to bring the appetizers to Easter dinner tomorrow. Going to make some vietnamese spring rolls. Pray for me. :)

320 PoorMan  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:53:31am

I like Chicago pizza, but let's not pretend it's pizza. It's something else: Chicago Pizza.

My goodness, I can recall the smell of childhood NY pizza from 45+ years ago. A slice at Pizza Prince on Austin St. was the same price as a subway token: 15 cents.

Living in New Mexico, it's a bit difficult (to put it mildly) to get the Real Thing. It's as if these folks never heard of pizza sauce. On the plus side, green chile is a good topping.

321 realwest  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:55:14am

re: #302 loppyd
Hey {loppyd} I have to say that John's Pizza in Boston (no, I have no idea where the hell it is, except it's somewhere near Charles Street) and most Boston Pizza is almost as good as NY Pizza, but they need to thin their crusts about 1/2".
As the original "John"who now owns 7 "Johns' Pizzerias" told me when I said that to him "How many pizza joints do you own"; I replied none but had obviously eaten in more pizzerias than he had! LOL!
Just love Boston/NY rivalries in anything!
Oh and John thought what I said was funny and gave me and the most recent former Mrs. Realwest a free Pizza................to go! LOL!

322 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:56:48am

re: #318 realwest

Ya know, if I could afford to buy a car - even just a junker, I'd buy it just to put that bumpersticker on it!

I'd love to piss some moonbats off with it.

I saw a car up in North Conway, NH with a LIBERALS LIE bumper sticker a few weeks ago. I gave him the thumbs up and he shared a conspiratorial smile.

323 realwest  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:58:39am

re: #322 loppyd
New Hampshire? Man his car is gonna get keyed for sure!

324 wiffersnapper  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:58:42am

I'm thinking these Obamisms will come back to bite him in the butt down the road. Who knows, at this rate he may surpass Biden as chief "faux-pas"-er .

325 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:58:44am

re: #321 realwest

Santarpios in East Boston would be your place. Super thin crust.

I don't like thick crust - which is why I don't like Greek pizza.

326 debutaunt  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:58:59am

re: #282 realwest

"New Yorkers do tend to vote Democrat."
And Chicago folks vote....................?! LOL!

...alive and deceased.

327 iLikeCandy  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:59:37am

I'm just going to say something. Probly not much point since it's so far down in the thread and this one is already superseded by another, but:

The bow and the pizza are something of a big deal to me. He bowed to a fucking despotic anti-Semite. This is awful and irrational; in what world does any citizen much less the leader of a country virtually founded in the belief that all men are created equal and that hereditary monarchy is invalid BOW to an hereditary monarch? I'd rather see a president holding hands with him. As Scott Hinderaker noted at Powerline, "The Office of Chief of Protocol apparently remains unfilled by an appointee."

Next, the lie about it. If you don't mind the bow, how about the lie? Pretty clunky one, that Obama is so tall he had to bend over for a handshake. Queen Elizabeth is much shorter than King Abdullah, and Obama managed the proper head-dip for her.

The pizza in itself doesn't bother me, but combined with Obama's sanctimonious lectures about how we lousy Americans turn our heat up and drive big cars, it bothers me. Not enough to carry on and on, but definitely enough to stop and object.

328 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 9:59:45am

re: #323 realwest

New Hampshire? Man his car is gonna get keyed for sure!

He had Maine plates. Maine is the new Vermont when it comes to politics.

329 loppyd  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:00:28am

re: #327 iLikeCandy

I understand. When you put it all together it is hard not to get riled.

330 iLikeCandy  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:01:04am

re: #329 loppyd

Thank you!

331 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:01:33am

re: #324 wiffersnapper

I'm thinking these Obamisms will come back to bite him in the butt down the road. Who knows, at this rate he may surpass Biden as chief "faux-pas"-er .

The soundbites from these Obama-isms will make GREAT commercials next go round!

332 amphibian  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:02:50am

re: #277 realwest

Well

since they've been building ocean going naval vessels - aircraft carriers and what will wind up being Aegis Class cruisers (thank you, Bill Clinton!) I have to think they are looking globally. And I'm not gonna worry about Taiwan until China starts to build HUGE numbers of amphibious landing ships.

Something to keep in mind, now that you mention it. That and their sudden interest in helping out against the pirates off the Horn of Africa does point to plans that involve blue water. I mentioned Taiwan as a forinstance. If China got aggressive against a big opponent, I would expect them to try to go for a piece of Siberia. Russia is still behind the US in technology, I think, and the prize is a valuable one.

334 amphibian  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:03:39am

re: #258 katemaclaren

Boy. Haven't heard such off-the-cuff succinct analysis--yet cleverly worded-- in a while.

Thank you, but you flatter.

335 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:04:12am

re: #317 loppyd

I end up in Brockton for work now and then. When we have a case in Plymouth County we usually file in Brockton because it is closer (not much, but still).

What street is it on?

I slept through that mess last night.

I think it's on Crescent Street (Rte 27). They serve the best Greek Salad you will ever eat

336 iLikeCandy  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:04:15am

re: #331 katemaclaren

The soundbites from these Obama-isms will make GREAT commercials next go round!

I'm thinking that running them as a sound-track over footage of the smoking ruins of some city will be even better -- "better" in a very sad and dark way.

337 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:04:30am

re: #334 amphibian

Thank you, but you flatter.

Okay--so I don't get out much! ;-)

338 iLikeCandy  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:05:24am

re: #333 BigPapa

We can’t drive our SUVs and, you know, eat as much as we want and keep our homes on, you know, 72 degrees at all times, whether we’re living in the desert or we’re living in the tundra

Don't mean to set you off Candy, but the hypocrisy smells worse than 5 day old pizza.

RAAAHHHH! Now you've set me off!

339 katemaclaren  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:05:59am

re: #336 iLikeCandy

Crossing my fingers against the smoking ruins part--that's about all I now know what to do--wish and hope (oh wait...)

340 Former Belgian  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:06:02am

re: #294 loppyd


You and I both need one of these.

So do I. Heck, by the time 0bamateur's four years are up, we may all be missing Nixon ;-)

Israel learnt the hard way (in 2006) it couldn't afford an "affirmative action" minister of defense. Now we're learning the hard way the USA (and, indirectly, the world) can't afford an affirmative action POTUS.

341 Former Belgian  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:07:41am

re: #311 Dave the.....

This reminds me of a Carter story. Those around then said it was very embarrassing when Jimmy Carter went to Europe, and Helmut Schmidt (chancellor) had to lecture Carter on economic principles.

Know what the sad thing is? Helmut Schmidt was an ACTUAL card-carrying Social-Democrat (his party was the SPD).

342 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:07:49am

re: #338 iLikeCandy

I suggest a few pieces of pizza and cold beer/simple red wine/soda pop. Usually works for me.

343 Viking6  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:12:30am

re: #120 opnion


He might have to worry about Sheriff Joe showing up and providing him with the pretty pink underwear he so richly deserves.

/

344 Son of the Black Dog  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:13:10am

re: #102 albusteve

any good beaches in Russia?

Problem is that they're all covered with 300 lb. Russians in bikinis and speedos.

345 amphibian  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:13:17am

re: #333 BigPapa

We can’t drive our SUVs and, you know, eat as much as we want and keep our homes on, you know, 72 degrees at all times, whether we’re living in the desert or we’re living in the tundra

Don't mean to set you off Candy, but the hypocrisy smells worse than 5 day old pizza.

Mmmm, five-day-old pizza and warm beer! That reminds me of when I was an undergrad it does!

346 irongrampa  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:15:01am

re: #294 loppyd

I value the paint on my suv too much.

347 iLikeCandy  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:15:34am

re: #342 BigPapa

Sounds good. I think I'll also open my doors and windows and set my thermostat on 78. I like fresh air and warmth at the same time.

348 irongrampa  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:16:47am

re: #298 katemaclaren

I suspect we wouldn't be watching hostage negotiations right now.

349 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:17:45am

re: #344 Son of the Black Dog

Problem is that they're all covered with 300 lb. Russians in bikinis and speedos.

EWWWWW!

350 UberInfidel67  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:21:18am

re: #113 yesandno Barack's wife needs to quit talking to the citizens of this country like we are peasants.

351 iLikeCandy  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:23:10am

re: #350 UberInfidel67

Barack's wife needs to quit talking to the citizens of this country like we are peasants.

But she's superior to us!

/besides, our souls are broken. what would we know?

352 huckfunn  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:27:39am
"Rules must be binding. Violations must be punished. Words must mean something. The world must stand together to prevent the spread of these weapons"

(1) The folks that want to take down the U.S. are delighted that we feel restricted by rules.
(2) Obama's words are just words, and poorly chosen; they mean nothing.
(3) As history illustrates, the world (read "UN") will stand by and do nothing as the bad guys run amok.

353 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:31:52am

Folks, please -- the pizza story is completely bogus.

[Link: news.aol.com...]

354 huckfunn  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:34:02am

re: #353 Charles


Isn't he more of a waffle man?

355 Natasha  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:38:55am

re: #344 Son of the Black Dog

Problem is that they're all covered with 300 lb. Russians in bikinis and speedos.

Popular misconception. Someone up-thread already posted one picture of Russian (or Ukranian) women that proves it wrong. But that was just one. I come from that neck of the woods, and while there is a fair share of speedo-clad lardasses, they are not numerous.

356 ProUSA  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:42:01am

re: #12 rawmuse

Welcome to the Office of the President, Mr. Obama. You wanted it, you got it, now deal with it.

Obama probably thinks he is doing well. If people don't understand him, they are just wrong.

OBAMA: "I won. What more should he have to do to appease the world? Now, get me the Secret Service, and fly that chef across the country again. I need another fancy pizza."

357 pegcity  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:46:44am

your president is a dofus

358 iLikeCandy  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:53:24am

re: #353 Charles

Folks, please -- the pizza story is completely bogus.

[Link: news.aol.com...]

Okay. Didn't know it was bogus.

359 Natasha  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:53:39am

The pizza thing is but a small symptom of a serious desease: posturing, petty, in-your-face arrogance, or, as I call it "third-world dictator syndrome". This is something some skanky little third-world tin-pot dictator would do, when he wants to flaunt his affluence and power and is not in the mood to commit mass murders. This also reminds me of the gold-plated toilets of the Russian nouveau riche, back in the 90s. Although, in their defense be said, many of them actually earned the money they spent on stupid shit. Komrade Zer0 is supported by our taxes, so he has no excuse.

"See? See? I am powerful! I am rich! I am better than you dirt-scratching unsophisticated peasants! I fly in my pizza boy and I poop in a golden latrine!" Petty, distasteful and stupid, really. Sorry if I sound racist (don't mean to be), but we've got ourselves one uncouth, ghetto-ass President.

360 Natasha  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:55:55am

Aaaaaiieeee! Story is bogus. Dang it! This is what I get for not refreshing the comments on time, and for doing homework in the other window.

Bows head in shame. Mea culpa.

I still think our Komrade Zer0 is an arrogant, petty little prick, who lacks manners and class.

361 iLikeCandy  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 10:58:14am

re: #360 Natasha

I still think our Komrade Zer0 is an arrogant, petty little prick, who lacks manners and class.

So do I. I think he simultaneously gets off on being the leader of the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth while trashing it. He's potlatching us.

362 Ruebacca  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 11:20:06am

How did Anglo-Saxons get all that power?

363 Steve  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 11:26:49am

re: #20 Emperor Norton

Those Austrians better knock it off. It it wasn't for the US and the Allies in World War II liberating Austria, they'd all be speaking German today.

My mom is Austrian......

364 Ruebacca  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 11:27:56am

re: #353 Charles

Folks, please -- the pizza story is completely bogus.

[Link: news.aol.com...]

The Car executives paid for their flights to Washington too. Did that help them? No.

Bush stopped playing golf during the war. Obama could at least order from the local domino's when we are losing 600k jobs a month.

365 ladycatnip  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 11:33:22am

Natasha,

Don't feel bad. Our own msm were silent. It was the British Mail Online that came out with the story. Breitbart also has this video of the chef himself explaining that it's not on the taxpayer's dime.

AOL got it wrong though. They reported this as being a business trip for the chef, when he himself said he was going to visit his girlfriend, and that he contacted the WH and offered to make them some pizza.

Regardless of it turning out to be a non-issue, it's just more of the same we'll be getting for the next four years.

366 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 11:43:57am
He wanted more stimulus spending from Europe. He got nothing.

...ect.

What does he expect. He goes around badmouthing the people he was elected to represent behind their backs in an attempt to suck up to the euroweenies* like a little bitch. If I were any of them, I wouldn't give that punk anything either.

*Apologies to our European Lizards, I know that not all of you are euroweenies.

367 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 11:46:57am
368 CEQAttorney  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 11:48:46am

For some reason, President Obama reminds of me Ray Stantz from Ghost Busters when they confronted Zuul.

Dr. Peter Venkman: Well, whatever it is, it's gotta get by us!
Dr. Raymond Stantz: Right!
Dr. Peter Venkman: Go get her, Ray!
[Ray glares at him]
Dr. Raymond Stantz: Gozer the Gozerian? Good evening. As a duly-designated representative of the City, County and State of New York, I order you to cease any and all supernatural activity and return forthwith to your place of origin or to the next convenient parallel dimension.
Dr. Peter Venkman: That oughtta do it. Thanks very much, Ray.
Gozer: Are you a god?
[Ray looks at the others, who all nod.]
Dr. Raymond Stantz: [hesitant] Uh...no.
Gozer: Then... di-i-i-i-e!
[Gozer begins shocking the Ghostbusters with lighting.]
Winston Zeddmore: Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "Yes!"

369 karmasherabwangchuk  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 12:03:03pm

re: #248 amphibian

You think? My impression of China is, it seems more of less content to stay in its sandbox, with maybe colonialist excursions into Africa. I think they're waiting for America to decline before they invade Taiwan, for instance. Do you think otherwise?

As for Europe, maybe. Europe is going to be part of either the New Caliphate or the New Ottoman Empire in a few decades. How do they differ? One is big, young and aggressive, the other is big, fat and lethargic.

Actually I think Europe will bounce back. The current Governments may well crack and fail. but i think a signifigant portion of the populations will fight eventually. I have heard that denmark is full of babies. There has been a bounce back. also consider that the muslim populations in Europe have no direct means of support. They all live in the cities and can be easily isolated and starved out if war breaks out. It will all come down to how much pressure the Muslim countries can bring down on The European countries and how much cooperation they can get from Quisling types in Europe. Also consider what the muslims have going for them. The have numbers and an extreme willingness to die. which is not nothing. on the minus side not much intelligence or development.

370 Pupdawg  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 12:05:02pm

re: #76 Idle Drifter

Obama back stabs his own country and its people while pleading for help from the rest of the world only to get the collective finger. So this is "Smart Diplomacy" at it's best.

Yes, you can...give the finger on both hands with fists still clenched.

371 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 12:05:56pm

Natasha, yeah, I just commented on pizza because I thought this was a general pizza thread :^) I had no idea this had turned into another collective pants-wetting by the ODS set.

Anyway, I figured I would down ding the first of your comments and upding the second. Total karma, in the true tradition of Buddhist balance, does not change. Ommm

372 donna quixote  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 12:08:25pm

Obama doesn't even have the grace to be grateful for what the United States has done from him. Regardless of his background, he received a first rate education....probably at government expense. I would bet his wife's was at government expense. He was able to climb up because of the Chicago political system. His wife got a cushy job. Unfortunately a lot of this was because no one bothered or, in later years, was able to find out much about him. WE still don't know anything and we seem unable to ask any questions while our country is being sold down the river.

373 Shug  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 12:11:04pm

re: #227 loppyd

Best late night pizza I've ever had was in Boston. We call it the hole in the wall because it's just a little take out with a window you order and pay at.

Right around the corner from the Black Rose.

had it.

good stuff

374 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 12:19:42pm

#369: After some time looking into French perfidy even when it was nominally Catholic, I am not predicting a religious "war" there. I do expect armed police action at least in France, a la Jenin, which gets rid of the worst Islamists, but that's nothing in the scheme of things. France's geography, history, and culture I suspect are so hostile to theocracy that even if the population were half Algerian, it would still be secular. Even if the whole of Europe was Muslim, including France: France would be the foremost supporter of Christian (or, if no Christians could be found, Shi'a) rebels. Look at how they handled the Thirty Year War. France is all about France.

That does not necessarily mean that France will cease supporting thugs abroad when it suits French interests, but fears of a French caliphate are overblown.

Ideology seems to have more of a hold on the Spanish and German character, so I'd worry more about religious wars in those countries...

375 Pupdawg  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 12:23:04pm

The hills are alive with the sound of mockery...Obama's recent European Blovation had the nuance and sophistication of The Three Stooges combined with the whining of Wimpy as he stumbled from country to country begging for burgers and squeegeeing windows as he sold America down the proverbial Rhine, Danube, Thames and Tigress...and he's the President Of The United States!

376 flbob10  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 1:05:45pm

he is the one we were not waiting for

377 hous bin pharteen  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 1:50:01pm

Nice article Charles. When I first saw it, I thought "Now he wants to pick on Krauthammer? What the hell? But I was mistaken. Then I read the column. Nice info. Having a Crew Chief/Team Manager who gets a kid each year who gets to go to school here, I have learned much about different countries and different people. Besides what I have learned in my life. (A had a high school buddy from Iran at the time BEFORE the hostage crises. That pissed him off big time) There 1st daughter was adopted from Korea when she was an infant. She looks like a 60's flower child now. Working in CA now.
There are people in Europe who likes this country very much. You may not see much when you are looking at politicians.

378 odorlesspaintthinner  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 2:30:04pm

I've seen some bashing of Glenn Beck on here, of whom I am no huge fan, for being "apocalyptic." But what happens when the major force for good in the world starts rolling back its moral authority, at the same time as a major economic downturn is occuring, Iran and North Korea are trying to develop nukes while we apologize for them, they join hands with Hugo Chavez while sympathy for Hamas increases, Russia and China are more and more emboldened- in short, our "president" is weakening us at a time that our enemies are strengthening themselves. Looking at the world as a potential battlefield, is apocalypse so crazy? You don't have to be a prophet to see the writing on the wall.

379 under the whip  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 3:45:05pm

re: #20 Emperor Norton

Yes, and we folk from down under would be speaking Japanese instead of Australian.

380 rob.schmitt  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:34:16pm

Obama did NOT bow to that Saudi.
It was a curtsey!


Wikipedia --
A curtsey (also spelled curtsy) is a traditional gesture of greeting, in which a woman bends her knees while bowing her head. ...

381 rob.schmitt  Sat, Apr 11, 2009 8:39:50pm

re: #372 donna quixote

Obama is controlling the situation by his sheer brain-power alone! As the most intelligent President ever, his I.Q. is so high that he can can change(tm) any situation anywhere in the world merely by putting his mind to it.
Don't you remember how the entire political world was amazed when Occidental College released his S.A.T. scores?!
His scores and grades were so amazing, that Columbia University recruited him to finish his undergraduate degree there and never even bothered to record his grades or even the courses he took.
When Harvard Law School got wind of this 'Immaculate Matriculation', they begged Him to grace their halls and never bothered to record his grades, courses, of even his L.S.A.T. scores.
His fellow Law Review members elected him their president without ever requiring him to write a single Law Review article, for, like Homer,(and Jesus), his mere thoughts were sufficient to change(tm) all of History! Not one of that Trinity deigned to scribe his own words.
Even unto today, Obama has only to think a thought, and it is instantly transferred to the Tele-Promptor ! Someday those very thoughts will be e-mailed to 'Little Red i-pods', so that every A.C.O.R.N. cadre will be able to quote the O-Man in any setting.


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