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Most beautiful dumb girls think they are smart and get away with it, because other people, on the whole, aren’t much smarter.
— Louise Brooks
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Alexzander Mon, Jun 6, 2011 10:32:12pm |
The Dunning–Kruger effect.
Critical Self-reflection is undervalued.
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Kid Skeeter Mon, Jun 6, 2011 10:34:15pm |
Most beautiful dumb girls think they are smart and get away with it, because other people, on the whole, aren’t much smarter.
— Louise Brooks
Tell me about it! Regards, Sarah.
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danhenry1 Mon, Jun 6, 2011 10:38:16pm |
Everybody seems to really suck sometimes.
I wish that Weiner didn’t post.
And that Palin had.
But I’m a an old fashioned liberal,
And wishing and hoping,
Never accomplished much
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 6, 2011 10:52:06pm |
I met a lady today wearing a gold cross and and “Israel” t-shirt. I asked if she had been to Israel. She said yes and it was amazing to see what a small group of people could do make the desert while all their neighbors could just make war.
I was actually dumbfounded (pleasantly).
I don’t hear such things anywhere but on-line.
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Alexzander Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:01:27pm |
re: #4 ggt
I met a lady today wearing a gold cross and and “Israel” t-shirt. I asked if she had been to Israel. She said yes and it was amazing to see what a small group of people could do make the desert while all their neighbors could just make war.
I was actually dumbfounded (pleasantly).
I don’t hear such things anywhere but on-line.
Where abouts are you located? In some places or in some circles thats a fairly common sentiment.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:05:13pm |
re: #6 Alexzander
Where abouts are you located? In some places or in some circles thats a fairly common sentiment.
Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.
Most people here don’t have a clue about the situation.
I had one co-worker absolutely confused when I told her it was illegal to be Christian on some places in the ME. She thought everyone celebrated Christmas, espeically those in the ME because that’s where “Christ was from”.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:05:44pm |
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Alexzander Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:15:41pm |
Amazing the place totally clears out around 11 PST.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:16:24pm |
re: #5 SpaceJesus
did you tell her to check out dubai
re: #8 ggt
No, I just kept my mouth shut.
Be sure to mention that if she does go to Dubai, and hits the bar, she should never order a “Sex on the Beach”.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:31:26pm |
re: #12 Slumbering Behemoth
re: #8 ggt
Be sure to mention that if she does go to Dubai, and hits the bar, she should never order a “Sex on the Beach”.
Did you wake-up in a different place than where you fell asleep? Just wondering how far your bed floated with all the rain.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:32:00pm |
re: #11 Alexzander
Amazing the place totally clears out around 11 PST.
You show up around 11, the place clears out around 11…
I’m not saying there’s a connection, I’m just sayin’.
/Come to think of it, I showed up in this thread around 11 as well…
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:32:35pm |
re: #15 Slumbering Behemoth
You show up around 11, the place clears out around 11…
I’m not saying there’s a connection, I’m just sayin’.
/Come to think of it, I showed up in this thread around 11 as well…
I’m not here, usually, until after midnight. If at all …
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:35:01pm |
re: #13 ggt
Did you wake-up in a different place than where you fell asleep? Just wondering how far your bed floated with all the rain.
‘sall good. I was kind of stressing it last night, as the streets were flooding. Turns out we’ve had close to an inch and a half of rain in the last two days, which is odd when the average for the entire month of June is just 0.23.
The ponding basin/ball park across the street from me went from empty to nearly full overnight.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:36:07pm |
re: #17 Slumbering Behemoth
‘sall good. I was kind of stressing it last night, as the streets were flooding. Turns out we’ve had close to an inch and a half of rain in the last two days, which is odd when the average for the entire month of June is just 0.23.
The ponding basin/ball park across the street from me went from empty to nearly full overnight.
frog is back on our patio, but he turned into the toad he always was.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:38:20pm |
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:41:59pm |
Just reading Alouette’s link about the lady who wants to make male circumcision illegal, but doesn’t seem to care if little girls are treated equally or (in most cases) much, much worse than little boys.
Idiot, IMHO.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:45:13pm |
Alouette’s page.
Link from her page
I especially love the “history of the beginnings of circumcision in the US” I guess there were no Jews here until the 1800’s.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:48:43pm |
re: #20 ggt
Not even touching that one with your dick.
I agree that the whole “Foreskin Man” comic book thing is blatantly anti-semitic. I’d even say that it has distinct racist or racial superiority overtones.
But as of this point, I have yet to see a discussion of infant circumcision that has remotely approached anything that could be considered reasonable.
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Alexzander Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:49:33pm |
I keep voyaging off into other corners of the interweb while the activity is low here, only to return later to see I missed several commenters. The foreskin story isn’t doing it for me; anyone have some more compelling info for me to be angry or opinionated about?
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:55:25pm |
re: #22 Slumbering Behemoth
Not even touching that one with your dick.
I agree that the whole “Foreskin Man” comic book thing is blatantly anti-semitic. I’d even say that it has distinct racist or racial superiority overtones.
But as of this point, I have yet to see a discussion of infant circumcision that has remotely approached anything that could be considered reasonable.
The difference being that the female actually has an organ removed, the male doesn’t.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:57:03pm |
Before I start getting pissed about female reproductive issues, I”m going to bed.
Night all!
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Alexzander Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:57:24pm |
What other blogs/news/opinion sites do people read here? I feel like branching our/exploring new territory.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:02:39am |
re: #26 Alexzander
eschaton: [Link: www.eschatonblog.com…]
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:04:52am |
re: #23 Alexzander
From the Institute of Behavioral Genetics:
In a shocking development the world’s top scientists in the fields of genetics, behavior sciences, and psychiatry have announced that people named “Alexzander” are deficient in every way. The study also concluded that it makes no difference whether one was given such a name, or chose it of their own accord. An expert in the field of behavioral sciences, Dr. Ful Awbul Shiite, was quoted as saying “They’re all a bunch of backwards pussies, the whole lot of them. End of story”.
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3CPO Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:07:35am |
I’m hungry.
I’m tired, but can’t sleep.
I really didn’t want Anthony Weiner to be a liar.
My dryer is broken.
My roof is leaking.
Bleh.
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laZardo Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:15:42am |
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Alexzander Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:16:59am |
re: #28 Slumbering Behemoth
From the Institute of Behavioral Genetics:
Would you like to clarify your frustration in a more direct or adult way?
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Alexzander Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:19:27am |
re: #30 laZardo
WELL PLAYED, GOOD SIR.
You should switch to chrome and never be caught offguard by a link again.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:19:36am |
re: #25 ggt
Before I start getting pissed about female reproductive issues, I”m going to bed.
Night all!
Be pissed off. It’s the appropriate reaction, I think.
I’m a straight, white, conservative male who is pissed off about that, and the way gays are treated, and the way non-whites are treated, and about a whole slew of other things.
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Alexzander Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:21:32am |
re: #33 Slumbering Behemoth
Be pissed off. It’s the appropriate reaction, I think.
I’m a straight, white, conservative male who is pissed off about that, and the way gays are treated, and the way non-whites are treated, and about a whole slew of other things.
How about the way people with physical or mental disabilities are treated?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:25:35am |
re: #31 Alexzander
Would you like to clarify your frustration in a more direct or adult way?
Frustration? No. Frivolity is what it is. If my jocular nature in that post offended you…
Keep your eyes and ears open. I’m sure you’ll find much better things to be offended by than what I intended to be nothing more than a good-natured ribbing.
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TedStriker Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:28:28am |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:30:54am |
re: #34 Alexzander
How about the way people with physical or mental disabilities are treated?
Yikes! It would seem that I have unintentionally struck a rather raw nerve with you. I offer my apologies.
Please understand that my previous post was meant in jest, and not at all intended to be discriminatory against those with physical or mental impairments.
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laZardo Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:43:09am |
Also, for the record I’ve never generally trusted politicians with private photos, regardless of their political stripe.
Though I do save a small nod of respect for Congressman Craigslist, who knew better than to drag that sort of thing out.
Yeah.
im goin to gym now. :x
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:45:07am |
Sometimes when I’m here at LGF, I tend to forget that I am talking typing with people that I have never met. People who are living with or dealing with things that are not immediately obvious in this format.
I sometimes act as if I am talking with some of my long time friends and drinking buddies when I post here. Folks who have been through the same kind of shit I have, and share the same sense of humor about it.
It is not my intent to offend.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:54:54am |
Beautiful girls make all the men around them behave olike idiots, so it’s easy to understand how they come to think of themselves as intelligent.
And if “intelligent” means “getting what they want without having to work for it”, then they can be very smart.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 7, 2011 1:00:39am |
re: #26 Alexzander
What other blogs/news/opinion sites do people read here? I feel like branching our/exploring new territory.
On the serious tip, I tend to zip through atheist and feminists blogs, as they often times are on the top of the serious issues regarding the whole fundie culture war going on in my country.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 1:09:16am |
I always check the BBC. They are a reasonably balanced and non-partisan source on intenational news.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 7, 2011 1:10:32am |
re: #41 ralphieboy
I guess I must be the odd man out. There are millions of beautiful women in the world, and only some few I’ve met have impressed me. Beyond their beauty, that is.
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freetoken Tue, Jun 7, 2011 1:15:25am |
re: #44 Slumbering Behemoth
I’ve met and danced with very many beautiful women over the years. Some exceedingly stunning lookers… others just really pretty or sexy.
Few have impressed me. There really were a few, just a handful, who were also intelligent and educated. They always tended to be taken.
Frankly the same is probably true with guys. Lots of guys who seem to have it all on the outside - physique, looks - they tend to over rate themselves.
I guess we all spend our 20’s, and even 30’s, discovering these things.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 1:16:02am |
re: #44 Slumbering Behemoth
I still act like an idiot around them. But I recover a lot quicker thatn I used to. Some of us don’t recover until we have signed away half of our belongings to them…
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freetoken Tue, Jun 7, 2011 1:17:36am |
It’s the same in Japan, btw. The exceedingly sexy ones are too often airheads. I know that sounds stereotypical, but it’s my experience.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 7, 2011 1:17:52am |
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freetoken Tue, Jun 7, 2011 1:20:05am |
We’re finally to one of the better cuts from the second movie.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 1:20:35am |
re: #47 freetoken
It’s the same in Japan, btw. The exceedingly sexy ones are too often airheads. I know that sounds stereotypical, but it’s my experience.
There is a cultural thing, which I have read is still prevalent in Japan, that women are supposed to act like helpless airheads because that’s what men find attractive.
It comes and goes with the times, but it never goes away.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 7, 2011 1:24:18am |
re: #46 ralphieboy
I still act like an idiot around them. But I recover a lot quicker thatn I used to.
Oh, I ain’t gonna lie. I still get flummoxed here and there, even by women much older than me. Fuck it. Sexy is sexy.
Some of us don’t recover until we have signed away half of our belongings to them…
I’m like 7Up, Ralph. Never had it, never will.
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freetoken Tue, Jun 7, 2011 1:26:19am |
re: #50 ralphieboy
There’s an element of that but I don’t think it’s as strong as it’s portrayed commonly. In many households it’s the woman running the show.
The pretty young things on film/tv do the airhead act, it’s true, until they reach middle age (which for them is around 50.) Then they seem to transform into mistresses of domination.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Jun 7, 2011 1:33:42am |
re: #52 freetoken
Then they seem to transform into mistresses of domination.
Shall I assume that you have pictorial documentation of such?
/
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 1:36:47am |
I can only provide anecdotal evidence of a friend who married a cute Indonesian woman who turned Dragon Lady on him soon after they married.
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freetoken Tue, Jun 7, 2011 2:00:07am |
re: #53 Slumbering Behemoth
None that can make it through a “safe” filter.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 2:39:06am |
GOP: if it ain’t fossil fuel, it’s “anti-energy”
[Link: www.salon.com…]
These guys are getting scarier all the time…
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Jun 7, 2011 2:52:31am |
Watched the Maddow video. Only to the point where LGF was mentioned. Cool for Charles.
And good motning honcos.
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freetoken Tue, Jun 7, 2011 3:15:25am |
I’m trying to follow up on the evolving story of the fallout from the Christianity Today article on Adam and Eve. CT has now made online an editorial about where their stance is officially.
Basically, evangelicals/fundamentalists can’t deal with genetics. Bottom line.
Among the blather on the internet about this subject, a few truly stupid postings deserve to be pointed out. One of the winners is from the IDiots over at UncommonDescent, who now claims:
Why “Christian evolution” leads to euthanasia
It’s just the old creationist line that if one accepts evolution (in this case rejecting the religious idea that all humans descend from just two people, Adam and Eve), then that will lead to euthanasia.
The IDiots are just recycling old creationist tropes, they’re not even pretending to be non-creationists any more.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 3:22:42am |
re: #59 freetoken
“Please understand. I am not saying that when we switch over to Darwinian thinking, we become less moral…”
No, but you might become less stupid.
Yes, we differ from animals only by degree, but it is a key one: we are no longer practicing survival of the fittest, but also aiding the survival of the unfit. That is what our civilization has been about now for millennia.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Jun 7, 2011 3:31:39am |
My brother has a friend that will talk until he’s blue in the face if you bring up ID vs. Evolution. He goes to church every Sunday, still smokes weed, drinks beer and occasionally smacks his kids.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 3:39:29am |
re: #57 ralphieboy
GOP: if it ain’t fossil fuel, it’s “anti-energy”
[Link: www.salon.com…]
These guys are getting scarier all the time…
And those guys represent a massive chunk of America. And are elected reliably, by a massive chunk of America.
We’re a pretty stupid country!
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 3:41:48am |
re: #61 Cannadian Club Akbar
Believing in Evolution does not necessarily mean rejecting the notion there is a Creator as a driving force behind it. But believing in a literal, fundamentalist reading of the Bible means rejecting Evolution.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 3:44:46am |
re: #62 WindUpBird
We are being sold on the notion that fossil fuel represents the Free Market and the AMerican Way of Life, whereas alternative energy is all about government meddling in our Way of Life.
It helps the oil companies that they have the financial and political clout to put their message across.
Count on gas prices going up in the summer of 2012 and really peaking in November, accompanied by a spate of reports and articles explaining that Obama’s “anti-energy” policies are responsible for the spike.
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researchok Tue, Jun 7, 2011 3:47:15am |
re: #56 freetoken
Time for a little Puccini:
[Video]
Always room for Jello, always time for Puccini.
Good choice today. Was that Pavarotti?
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 3:47:30am |
re: #65 ralphieboy
Which is deeply ironic, because the only reason oil and coal are competitive in the open market is that their actual costs— in terms of the pollution, ill-health, and general damage they do— is hidden and doesn’t have to be paid by either the seller or consumer.
It’s as if one guy was able to sell his tallow candles much cheaper than the beeswax candle dude, but the tallow guy was just dumping the corpses and effluent into the village well.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 3:48:45am |
re: #45 freetoken
I offended an ex-girlfriend of mine by asserting that beauty— and she was beautiful— was much more common than being really interesting, intelligent, or compassionate.
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freetoken Tue, Jun 7, 2011 3:51:53am |
re: #69 Obdicut
I’ve discovered over the years that beauty doesn’t hold me long. All the women who have kept my interest for any period of time have had to own other qualities.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 3:52:37am |
Oh, man, Garret Fitzgerald died. He was a family friend. I just found out about it.
If anyone is looking for an honest politician, he was it.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
Nobody fought harder than him for women’s rights in Ireland— and when it comes to abortion rights, contraception, and divorce law, that’s a hard, hard fight.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:02:53am |
re: #45 freetoken
I’ve met and danced with very many beautiful women over the years. Some exceedingly stunning lookers… others just really pretty or sexy.
Few have impressed me. There really were a few, just a handful, who were also intelligent and educated. They always tended to be taken.
Frankly the same is probably true with guys. Lots of guys who seem to have it all on the outside - physique, looks - they tend to over rate themselves.
I guess we all spend our 20’s, and even 30’s, discovering these things.
And 40’s and part of my 50’s so far. And, it’s not unique to men, BTW.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:05:14am |
re: #65 ralphieboy
and the reason we’re easily sold on that is that we’re not educated as a country
marvel as the American empire crumbles, because America doesn’t have the tools to think critically about their future
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:12:46am |
re: #20 ggt
Just reading Alouette’s link about the lady who wants to make male circumcision illegal, but doesn’t seem to care if little girls are treated equally or (in most cases) much, much worse than little boys.
Idiot, IMHO.
The procedure which is done on girls is already illegal in the U.S. and confined to third world African countries. Whereas, circumcision is performed on first world white males. So, unless she wants to go to Africa there not really much of a cause to protest here.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:15:45am |
re: #74 Alouette
I really think the blatant anti-semitism of the “Foreskin Man” comic turned off a lot of people who weren’t coming at anti-circumcision from a bigoted position.
It is almost laughably stupid.
“How should we promote our cause? I know, let’s have a comic where we kidnap a baby from its parents and have a blonde guy beating the crap out of some Jews. That won’t bring up any creepy parallels.”
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:19:25am |
re: #75 Obdicut
I really think the blatant anti-semitism of the “Foreskin Man” comic turned off a lot of people who weren’t coming at anti-circumcision from a bigoted position.
It is almost laughably stupid.
“How should we promote our cause? I know, let’s have a comic where we kidnap a baby from its parents and have a blonde guy beating the crap out of some Jews. That won’t bring up any creepy parallels.”
Well, the ballot initiative is not officially dead in Santa Monica, and will probably receive a profound ass-kicking in SF come November.
Sometimes people really are that stupid.
One thing I do have to give credit to Mrs. Troutman for immediately disassociating herself from the nazi shitbag who sponsored the petition with her.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:19:51am |
re: #76 Alouette
Well, the ballot initiative is NOW officially dead in Santa Monica, and will probably receive a profound ass-kicking in SF come November.
Gah. PIMF
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:25:37am |
re: #73 WindUpBird
and the reason we’re easily sold on that is that we’re not educated as a country
marvel as the American empire crumbles, because America doesn’t have the tools to think critically about their future
This is where we pay the price for all those cuts in education…
But we are becoming a nation that has learned from the Free Market not to look past the bottom line for the fiscal year.
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freetoken Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:28:18am |
re: #78 ralphieboy
There has not been that many “cuts in education” to make such a large share of the electorate intentionally turn against important efforts to deal with the future.
Rather, gullibility and greed have always been with us.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:30:14am |
re: #79 freetoken
And there’s the ‘anti-education’, Fox news and other media outlets spewing incorrect facts, phony science, misrepresentations of history.
Just look at the people defending Palin’s ‘history’. It was a garbled fucking mess, and yet people with two brain cells to rub together are somehow convincing themselves it wasn’t.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:31:30am |
re: #79 freetoken
There has not been that many “cuts in education” to make such a large share of the electorate intentionally turn against important efforts to deal with the future.
Rather, gullibility and greed have always been with us.
I would say that is the result of both cuts in education coupled a general decline in the quality of basic education: reading and developing critical thinking, trying to understand differeng points of view on an issue even if one is not in agreement, and learning the difference between hypothesis, theory, fact, myth and opinion.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:35:05am |
re: #81 ralphieboy
I would say that is the result of both cuts in education coupled a general decline in the quality of basic education: reading and developing critical thinking, trying to understand differeng points of view on an issue even if one is not in agreement, and learning the difference between hypothesis, theory, fact, myth and opinion.
I think it’s also a distrust of scientists promoted by those who’s ideology science doesn’t favor, and by some of the highly religious.
If you went back to the 1950s and asked the American public in general whether we should look to scientists for accuracy on scientific fact, you’d have gotten a strong ‘yes’. The long, long anti-intellectual and anti-science campaign of the right wing has weakened the US immeasurably.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:38:12am |
Remember, we have seen a growth in Fundamentalism, and in order to accept a literalist reading of the Bible, you have to reject science, which leads to a mistrust of scientists.
And that will lead to our demise as a leading nation in science and technology.
The Fundamentalists will tell us that rejecting their interpretation of the Holy Scriptures will lead to our demise.
So the conflict is pre-programmed and will be played out against the backdrop of the next major natural/man-made catastrophe (or any combination thereof) that we encounter.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 5:11:11am |
This D-Day page was really good:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
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Decatur Deb Tue, Jun 7, 2011 5:18:05am |
re: #82 Obdicut
I think it’s also a distrust of scientists promoted by those who’s ideology science doesn’t favor, and by some of the highly religious.
If you went back to the 1950s and asked the American public in general whether we should look to scientists for accuracy on scientific fact, you’d have gotten a strong ‘yes’. The long, long anti-intellectual and anti-science campaign of the right wing has weakened the US immeasurably.
Decades ago, someone wrote of the history of science as having a break-point. Until the early-mid 20th Cent, the workings of science could be easily demonstrated to a fairly schooled teenager. Then science “went on instruments”. It became impossible to believe the scientist without also believing in the complex machinery and thought processes that brought him to his conclusions. Trouble ensued.
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Flounder Tue, Jun 7, 2011 5:18:38am |
re: #85 Obdicut
Ugh, I’m getting seasick just looking at that picture.
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lazardo Tue, Jun 7, 2011 5:23:15am |
re: #85 Obdicut
This D-Day page was really good:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
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lazardo Tue, Jun 7, 2011 5:30:21am |
re: #82 Obdicut
I think it’s also a distrust of scientists promoted by those who’s ideology science doesn’t favor, and by some of the highly religious.
If you went back to the 1950s and asked the American public in general whether we should look to scientists for accuracy on scientific fact, you’d have gotten a strong ‘yes’. The long, long anti-intellectual and anti-science campaign of the right wing has weakened the US immeasurably.
“WE GOTTA BE SCIENTIFIC TO OUTSMART THOSE GODDAMN COMMIES AND THEIR TRICKS.”
Sums it up pretty nice.
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Flounder Tue, Jun 7, 2011 5:34:44am |
Last night when I came home I saw a Luna moth
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
It was beautiful, it didn’t seem to fly, just float. About the diameter of a softball.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 7, 2011 5:36:22am |
re: #90 Shropshire_Slasher
Last night when I came home I saw a Luna moth
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
It was beautiful, it didn’t seem to fly, just float. About the diameter of a softball.
When I was little I was fascinated by wildlife guides. The luna moth was always my favourite.
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Ghost of a Dopefish Tue, Jun 7, 2011 5:37:33am |
re: #83 ralphieboy
Remember, we have seen a growth in Fundamentalism, and in order to accept a literalist reading of the Bible, you have to reject science, which leads to a mistrust of scientists.
I’d disagree with that strongly. I subscribe to a literal reading of the Bible, and yet I don’t at all disavow the excellent work of scientists, even in the field of evolutionary science (which is where most of the conflict originates). It is possible to compromise, but not easy; and it requires you to bend the rules of what constitutes a “literal” interpretation of the Bible.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 5:41:40am |
re: #92 thedopefishlives
It is possible to compromise, but not easy; and it requires you to bend the rules of what constitutes a “literal” interpretation of the Bible.
Yeah, but then, really, it’s not a literal interpretation of the Bible. You’ve got to get figurative at some point.
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jun 7, 2011 5:44:17am |
re: #91 iceweasel
The Luna Moth was genetically engineered in conjunction with Nano Technology for surveillance by the GOVERNMENT!!
TURN OFF THE PORCH LIGHT!!//
Goodmorning everyone!!
Yesterday the wind was brutal.Today….is a good hair day!
…as if ….
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ReamWorks SKG Tue, Jun 7, 2011 5:50:17am |
Apropos your quote. From a scientific sample of one person interviewed on last night’s Jon Stewart show, Palin fans don’t hesitate to make sexual jokes about having sex with her (or about the configuration and size of her pudenda.)
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ReamWorks SKG Tue, Jun 7, 2011 5:54:35am |
re: #83 ralphieboy
I’m not sure if the Fundamentalist’s adherence to their “literal” (based on their favorite translation of!) the Bible is without interpretation.
For example, every calculation of the age of the Universe based on bible Chronology has quite a bit of speculation in it. The Chronology just isn’t complete.
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SidewaysQuark Tue, Jun 7, 2011 5:55:45am |
re: #92 thedopefishlives
I’d disagree with that strongly. I subscribe to a literal reading of the Bible, and yet I don’t at all disavow the excellent work of scientists, even in the field of evolutionary science (which is where most of the conflict originates). It is possible to compromise, but not easy; and it requires you to bend the rules of what constitutes a “literal” interpretation of the Bible.
Well, a 100% literal reading of 100% of the Bible is, quite frankly, impossible, given there’s direct literal contradictions between certain parts. Two conflicting genealogies of Jesus, conflicting specifics about Peter’s denial of Jesus, and whether Satan or God tempted David to take a census of Israel are some examples.
A Jew or Christian operating under the assumption of common sense will allow for some leeway, of course. Fundamentalists refuse to do this, and end up doing some amusing (yet disturbing) mental contortions.
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ReamWorks SKG Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:05:30am |
re: #97 SidewaysQuark
A Jew or Christian operating under the assumption of common sense will allow for some leeway, of course. Fundamentalists refuse to do this, and end up doing some amusing (yet disturbing) mental contortions.
Jews have the advantage of having the Talmud, Rashi, etc, which offer additional (and admittedly conflicting) information about the Torah. The “Oral Torah” codified in the Talmud is seen as law for most Jews.
Many things from the Oral Torah are used by Christians, though often they don’t know where it came from! For example, the story about Abraham breaking his father’s idols and his explanation to his father, paraphrased here:
[W]hen Abraham was still a young child, he realized that idol worship was nothing but foolishness. To make his point, one day, when Abraham was asked to watch the store, he took a hammer and smashed all the idols - except for the largest. His father came home aghast. “What happened?!” he shouted. “It was amazing, Dad,” replied Abraham. “The idols all got into a fight and the biggest idol won!”
This story is not in the Five Books of Moses; it’s from the Midrash. But many Christians know it as an “Old Testament” story.
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ReamWorks SKG Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:07:56am |
re: #99 Gus 802
Not to be a pedant, but he does spell it “Weiner”. (It really should be pronounced “Whiner” which is apropos.)
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:08:05am |
re: #100 lazardo
…then everyone would want a pic of meee~
Is that an offer for a pic trading scheme?
//
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:08:42am |
re: #101 reuven
Not to be a pedant, but he does spell it “Weiner”. (It really should be pronounced “Whiner” which is apropos.)
Really? I didn’t know that. Tanks.
//
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Political Atheist Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:09:23am |
Beautiful sunrise right now at Mt Wilson
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Ericus58 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:10:11am |
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Ghost of a Dopefish Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:14:17am |
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:15:25am |
re: #73 WindUpBird
and the reason we’re easily sold on that is that we’re not educated as a country
marvel as the American empire crumbles, because America doesn’t have the tools to think critically about their future
The tools are there. The willingness to use them and then make the necessary (and inconvenient) decisions is not there.
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Ghost of a Dopefish Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:18:15am |
re: #109 Gus 802
Where’s my jelly doughnut?
Sir, there’s only bagels in the office this morning, sir!
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:19:34am |
re: #110 thedopefishlives
Sir, there’s only bagels in the office this morning, sir!
French bread and red wine. Normandy style breakfast.
//
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:23:19am |
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:25:01am |
I’m hungry. Thought I smelled sausage before but it was probably in my mind. Then I started thinking about the sodium content in breakfast sausages. I better get out of California before it’s too late!
//
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:25:12am |
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:27:51am |
re: #114 oaktree
Are we allowed to eat jelly donuts Private Pyle?!?
There’s never enough jelly in a jelly donut. Why is that?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:28:11am |
re: #108 oaktree
The tools are there. The willingness to use them and then make the necessary (and inconvenient) decisions is not there.
Are they? I don’t know that they are, I don’t think our country will magically wizard itself up a bunch of IQ points and education overnight, and wave its magic wand to remove the decades of bigoted groupthink that calls itself socially conservative Christianity
Nope, the toolbox is lookin’ pretty dire
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:30:23am |
re: #106 Gus 802
some of us have been up for 13 hours ;-)
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:32:58am |
re: #117 WindUpBird
some of us have been up for 13 hours ;-)
I haven’t done that for a while. Been going to sleep around 9 to 11 PM and getting up really early since last month. It’s kind of nice. Early morning is the quietest time of the day. I love it.
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:33:49am |
Hmmm. Just saw a hawk flying away with something in tow. Couple of crows chasing after it and then they gave up. Breakfast?
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:35:34am |
re: #119 Gus 802
Hmmm. Just saw a hawk flying away with something in tow. Couple of crows chasing after it and then they gave up. Breakfast?
I dig your morning wildlife stories.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:37:19am |
re: #118 Gus 802
I haven’t done that for a while. Been going to sleep around 9 to 11 PM and getting up really early since last month. It’s kind of nice. Early morning is the quietest time of the day. I love it.
I had a truly horrendous bout of insomnia a few weeks back that actually required a doc visit, and when it subsided (hooray tamazepam) I found myself nicely settled in this vampire schedule where I sleep from about 11-am to 6-ish, and bing, insomnia solved, AND I get the early morning as well :D
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Ghost of a Dopefish Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:37:30am |
re: #119 Gus 802
Hmmm. Just saw a hawk flying away with something in tow. Couple of crows chasing after it and then they gave up. Breakfast?
One thing I’m looking forward to about my pending fishing vacation further north; I’ll get to fish with the eagles. There’s a small community of eagles that nests in the area, and they like to come down on the lakes early in the morning and show us where the fish are.
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:37:38am |
re: #120 iceweasel
I dig your morning wildlife stories.
Thanks! Yeah, there’s a lot of birds around here. The other day saw this vulture flapping about and then he parked himself on a telephone pole nearby for several hours. Yesterday the two fawns came out basically on their own even though they’re still pretty tiny. And cute of course.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:38:40am |
re: #123 Gus 802
Thanks! Yeah, there’s a lot of birds around here. The other day saw this vulture flapping about and then he parked himself on a telephone pole nearby for several hours. Yesterday the two fawns came out basically on their own even though they’re still pretty tiny. And cute of course.
oh cool. I saw a baby deer on a wildlife show last night and thought of you.
The only wildlife I’ve seen around here are the pigeons. :)
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:39:38am |
re: #116 WindUpBird
Are they? I don’t know that they are, I don’t think our country will magically wizard itself up a bunch of IQ points and education overnight, and wave its magic wand to remove the decades of bigoted groupthink that calls itself socially conservative Christianity
Nope, the toolbox is lookin’ pretty dire
That is a factor. Will probably take us getting “sputnik-ed” by China or India in some noticable technological and politically visible way to make scientific endeavor popular enough again to draw truly meaningful funding.
Aside: Was at a party over the weekend and a side discussion was a middle-aged man expounding on how the “liberals” gave up on funding space exploration in order to keep up welfare payments and support to the idle poor in order to guarantee continuing to get their vote. (I should put scare quotes on ‘idle poor’ since it was essentially being used as a dog whistle for minorities.) I resisted getting involved since I did not know the relationship between the man and my hosts - and guess he was probably a relative. Besides the fact that there was a 80+% chance that the guy would not listen too or believe facts if I offered them.
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Ghost of a Dopefish Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:39:56am |
re: #123 Gus 802
Yesterday the two fawns came out basically on their own even though they’re still pretty tiny. And cute of course.
There were 2 foraging deer on the side of the road that runs through town when I was on my way in to work this morning. Big beautiful does. They were actually in some guy’s yard, I had to wonder what they were doing in so close to the populated area.
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:40:07am |
re: #124 iceweasel
oh cool. I saw a baby deer on a wildlife show last night and thought of you.
The only wildlife I’ve seen around here are the pigeons. :)
The reggae pigeons of Scotland? ;)
//
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:41:01am |
re: #120 iceweasel
I dig your morning wildlife stories.
Most of my morning wildlife stories are of the two legged variety, the big bald lug and his Charger with the 20” rims, the cute scrawny dirtbag and his slightly rusting but still awesome 1988 Trans Am GTA
I did see a deer in my apt parking lot the other day. A DEER! I’m not in the woods, I’m in a city!
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:41:30am |
re: #126 thedopefishlives
There were 2 foraging deer on the side of the road that runs through town when I was on my way in to work this morning. Big beautiful does. They were actually in some guy’s yard, I had to wonder what they were doing in so close to the populated area.
Probably getting water? The deer around here venture down to this apartment complex nearby that has water out. For them I’m not sure but that’s what they do.
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:42:28am |
re: #128 WindUpBird
Most of my morning wildlife stories are of the two legged variety, the big bald lug and his Charger with the 20” rims, the cute scrawny dirtbag and his slightly rusting but still awesome 1988 Trans Am GTA
I did see a deer in my apt parking lot the other day. A DEER! I’m not in the woods, I’m in a city!
Used to see Raccoons up in Nob Hill SF all the time.
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rwdflynavy Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:44:03am |
re: #124 iceweasel
oh cool. I saw a baby deer on a wildlife show last night and thought of you.
The only wildlife I’ve seen around here are the pigeons. :)
I thought of this clip for some reason.
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:44:58am |
re: #127 Gus 802
The reggae pigeons of Scotland? ;)
//
Exactly. ;)
re: #128 WindUpBird
Most of my morning wildlife stories are of the two legged variety, the big bald lug and his Charger with the 20” rims, the cute scrawny dirtbag and his slightly rusting but still awesome 1988 Trans Am GTA
I did see a deer in my apt parking lot the other day. A DEER! I’m not in the woods, I’m in a city!
Cool! I’ve seen magpies and jackdaws and herons here in the park. That’s about it.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:45:57am |
re: #125 oaktree
That is a factor. Will probably take us getting “sputnik-ed” by China or India in some noticable technological and politically visible way to make scientific endeavor popular enough again to draw truly meaningful funding.
Aside: Was at a party over the weekend and a side discussion was a middle-aged man expounding on how the “liberals” gave up on funding space exploration in order to keep up welfare payments and support to the idle poor in order to guarantee continuing to get their vote. (I should put scare quotes on ‘idle poor’ since it was essentially being used as a dog whistle for minorities.) I resisted getting involved since I did not know the relationship between the man and my hosts - and guess he was probably a relative. Besides the fact that there was a 80+% chance that the guy would not listen too or believe facts if I offered them.
America definitely needs to feel its weakness and lack of supremacy for a while, maybe this is it, maybe this unemployment, this housing popped bubble, it’s all the new normal for a while. But we can’t have an actual leftist party? Oh no! That would be unamerican! Nope, still stuck with center and center right, as usual, the corporatists who aren’t bigots, and the corporatists who are
And yeah, you can’t argue with those people, like trying to teach a dog how to play chess, probably all hopped up on bad talk radio
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:46:09am |
re: #131 rwdflynavy
I thought of this clip for some reason.
[Video]
Heh. I need to see that movie again. Not sure if Jimmah’s seen it.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:46:37am |
re: #130 Gus 802
Used to see Raccoons up in Nob Hill SF all the time.
I see raccoons in dumpsters here a lot! BIG SCARY ONES all staring
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iceweasel Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:47:00am |
Back in a bit if possible— computer is wonky and needs rebooting.
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:47:15am |
re: #132 iceweasel
Exactly. ;)
re: #128 WindUpBird
Cool! I’ve seen magpies and jackdaws and herons here in the park. That’s about it.
Speaking of which. Momma just made her way out to the driveway with those two super cute fawns. I think she’s getting used to me and I started making tiny noises and she started walking towards me. Suddenly they’re all looking at me. Wish I had a better camera.
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Interesting Times Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:47:34am |
re: #135 WindUpBird
Do you still use your Twitter account? Haven’t seen any updates from it in a while.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:49:11am |
re: #138 publicityStunted
Do you still use your Twitter account? Haven’t seen any updates from it in a while.
I’m using my other one *_* I realized I was just reposting everything to both, and my original idea of using fetishbird for longer-form and political stuff, it became too much work, because I find I use twitter as a great big BBS anyhow
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:52:23am |
re: #135 WindUpBird
I see raccoons in dumpsters here a lot! BIG SCARY ONES all staring
Saw one a couple of nights ago by the stoop. Rather large. I said “hey, what are you doing?” He sauntered off with his head crouched down as they tend to do.
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Political Atheist Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:54:40am |
This is odd-I have a strange hardware issue. My computer had an AGP video card. But device manager says it’s a PCI card. The BIOS sees a an AGP card. Now I went and bought a better AGP card from Diamond and the drivers will just not load at all. Not so they work anyway. Stuck in p&p mode, yuck.
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:55:29am |
re: #126 thedopefishlives
There were 2 foraging deer on the side of the road that runs through town when I was on my way in to work this morning. Big beautiful does. They were actually in some guy’s yard, I had to wonder what they were doing in so close to the populated area.
The suburb I used to live in had lots of backyard deer. Good grazing since people watered and cut lawns to promote lots of tender young growth. Nice tasty shrubbery, etc.
My backyard was roughly 20’ x 30’ of flat space and the rest a 10 degree gully slope of rock and scrub. The deer would be in the flat area in the morning along with the local groundhogs to eat the clover that grew there. The bird feeder full of sunflower seeds drew the other local creatures - raccoons, chipmunks, squirrels, turkeys, and a fairly wide variety of other birds.
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darthstar Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:55:56am |
re: #140 Gus 802
Saw one a couple of nights ago by the stoop. Rather large. I said “hey, what are you doing?” He sauntered off with his head crouched down as they tend to do.
Ah, yes, the “Evenin’ Mr. Jones…just passing through…don’t want any trouble…tell the missus her cooking smells lovely tonight” look.
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:57:29am |
re: #141 Rightwingconspirator
This is odd-I have a strange hardware issue. My computer had an AGP video card. But device manager says it’s a PCI card. The BIOS sees a an AGP card. Now I went and bought a better AGP card from Diamond and the drivers will just not load at all. Not so they work anyway. Stuck in p&p mode, yuck.
Did you clean up all of the old drivers? When I was doing that I was using Driver Cleaner to get rid of all old drivers.
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:57:56am |
re: #140 Gus 802We have an Owl that hangs out in the tree over the driveway…
The neighbors cute little mini Rabbit that has hung out for 5 years has
mysteriously gone AWOL!!He also keeps the Pigeons and Doves nervous!
I wonder…?
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:59:13am |
re: #145 reloadingisnotahobby
We have an Owl that hangs out in the tree over the driveway…
The neighbors cute little mini Rabbit that has hung out for 5 years has
mysteriously gone AWOL!!He also keeps the Pigeons and Doves nervous!
I wonder…?
Uh oh! An owl and a missing rabbit?
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laZardo Tue, Jun 7, 2011 6:59:50am |
re: #146 Gus 802
Uh oh! An owl and a missing rabbit?
All is not well in the Hundred Acre Wood, apparently.
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lostlakehiker Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:00:18am |
re: #133 WindUpBird
America definitely needs to feel its weakness and lack of supremacy for a while, maybe this is it, maybe this unemployment, this housing popped bubble, it’s all the new normal for a while. But we can’t have an actual leftist party? Oh no! That would be unamerican! Nope, still stuck with center and center right, as usual, the corporatists who aren’t bigots, and the corporatists who are
And yeah, you can’t argue with those people, like trying to teach a dog how to play chess, probably all hopped up on bad talk radio
An actual leftist party would simply make matters worse. There are two possibilities: it would win, and put us on course to be the new Greece, where rioters break things because their leftist government won’t hand out cash it simply doesn’t have.
Or, it would draw off support from the already plenty-far-enough left Left that is now in charge, and throw elections to a Republican party badly in need of a course correction toward the middle before it is allowed back into the cockpit.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:00:41am |
re: #144 Gus 802
Did you clean up all of the old drivers? When I was doing that I was using Driver Cleaner to get rid of all old drivers.
this
drivers leave detritus like squatters
I had to use two DIFFERENT driver cleaner apps to get rid of some gamer-centric drivers on my gaming laptop, way back when
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:01:42am |
re: #146 Gus 802
Uh oh! An owl and a missing rabbit?
Curious eh??
My wife thinks I should go thru the Owl droppings and solve
the mystery….No mystery here Hon….
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:02:05am |
re: #148 lostlakehiker
I don’t exactly trust the totally out of touch libertarian to tell me if an actual left wing party will “make matters worse”
As if there’s nothing between “democrats” and “rioters”, lol.
sorry, you’re not what I’d call a reliable witness
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:02:09am |
re: #149 WindUpBird
this
drivers leave detritus like squatters
I had to use two DIFFERENT driver cleaner apps to get rid of some gamer-centric drivers on my gaming laptop, way back when
Yep. And Windows had/has this bad habit of reinstalling drivers sometimes. That’s why it’s a good idea to also delete old associated *inf files.
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:02:55am |
re: #150 reloadingisnotahobby
Curious eh??
My wife thinks I should go thru the Owl droppings and solve
the mystery…No mystery here Hon…
Yep. Owls don’t think in terms of cuteness.
//
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darthstar Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:03:59am |
re: #141 Rightwingconspirator
This is odd-I have a strange hardware issue. My computer had an AGP video card. But device manager says it’s a PCI card. The BIOS sees a an AGP card. Now I went and bought a better AGP card from Diamond and the drivers will just not load at all. Not so they work anyway. Stuck in p&p mode, yuck.
When I was younger I enjoyed going to buy video cards, sound cards, memory, CPUs and fans, and all that crap. Now I just want a PC to work, and I don’t want to deal with all that marketing crap that they come with…Here, try our free complimentary “fuck your ability to browse freely” GuardtmSecurity and Advertizing Software - it’s pre-installed…we’ll only ask you to register every time you boot, or four or five times a session if you’re one of those people who never turn their computers off. Meh…I keep some platform boot/install disks handy for when that happens. If I can’t get a machine to be functional and working in 30 minutes it’s a paperweight.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:04:03am |
re: #148 lostlakehiker
Or, it would draw off support from the already plenty-far-enough left Left that is now in charge, and throw elections to a Republican party badly in need of a course correction toward the middle before it is allowed back into the cockpit.
boldfaced the best bit for ahaha hee hee ho ho ho
hoo hoo hoo aheh…aheee whooo
oh man…
…hold on, catching my breath
hahahaha hooman *wheeze* okay gotta sit down
Okay, I think that’s most of it, ah comedy
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laZardo Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:04:22am |
re: #133 WindUpBird
America definitely needs to feel its weakness and lack of supremacy for a while, maybe this is it, maybe this unemployment, this housing popped bubble, it’s all the new normal for a while. But we can’t have an actual leftist party?
Mainly because their current presidential candidates are either a graying safety advocate and a raging anti-Semite.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:04:52am |
re: #154 darthstar
I paid an awesome company to make me an awesome custom rig, problem solved, labor warranty forever
never building my own machine ever again, not worth it
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darthstar Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:05:23am |
re: #146 Gus 802
Uh oh! An owl and a missing rabbit?
We saw about a dozen little bunnies on our walk the other night…so small and cute, I couldn’t help wondering what they’d be like battered and deep fried.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:05:55am |
re: #156 laZardo
Oh man, we’re totally not supposed to talk about the anti-semitic connections in the world o Libertarians!
They’re very serious and occasionally do magic tricks!
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:06:26am |
re: #158 darthstar
We saw about a dozen little bunnies on our walk the other night…so small and cute, I couldn’t help wondering what they’d be like battered and deep fried.
Tastes like chicken?
//
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darthstar Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:07:51am |
re: #160 Gus 802
Tastes like chicken?
//
Taste like rabbit. I like rabbit, and do order it on occasion. These ones were so small they looked like they could be eaten whole, as an appetizer.
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:08:29am |
re: #147 laZardo
All is not well in the Hundred Acre Wood, apparently.
It’s a frame-up! We all know it actually was that social misfit Eeyore… Or possibly those immigrant marsupials and their strange customs… Or maybe that odd tigger thing who obviously is on drugs…
//
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:09:46am |
re: #161 darthstar
Taste like rabbit. I like rabbit, and do order it on occasion. These ones were so small they looked like they could be eaten whole, as an appetizer.
I never tasted rabbit.
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Ghost of a Dopefish Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:10:14am |
re: #163 Gus 802
I never tasted rabbit.
Rabbit isn’t bad, but the problem is that you need a lot of it in order to make anything resembling a filling meal.
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Lidane Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:13:16am |
re: #148 lostlakehiker
The entire discussion is moot as long as the two major parties have a stranglehold on electoral law. As it stands now, it’s very difficult for a third party to even get on the ballot, much less at a truly competitive level.
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:13:37am |
re: #164 thedopefishlives
Rabbit isn’t bad, but the problem is that you need a lot of it in order to make anything resembling a filling meal.
Sorta like a game hen.
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Ghost of a Dopefish Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:14:24am |
re: #166 Gus 802
Sorta like a game hen.
Which I’ve never had, but would like to try. Any suggestions? The local meat market sells the little buggers and I might just pick some up the next time I have some free money for meat.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:15:16am |
re: #92 thedopefishlives
I’d disagree with that strongly. I subscribe to a literal reading of the Bible, and yet I don’t at all disavow the excellent work of scientists, even in the field of evolutionary science (which is where most of the conflict originates). It is possible to compromise, but not easy; and it requires you to bend the rules of what constitutes a “literal” interpretation of the Bible.
I am talking those people who insist on a LITERAL interpretation. As in “the Earth is 6,000 years old” literal. That cannot be reconciled with science or history, or even with objective reality.
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blueraven Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:15:29am |
Yesterday, at dusk, I saw a couple of baby owls sitting on my fence. At first I couldn’t tell what they were because it was getting dark. But they let me walk up pretty close to them. I had never seen owls around here before.
I see coyotes, deer and the occasional fox. Snakes, frogs and many birds, including the amusing road runner. Now I am really interested in tracking these owls.
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:15:48am |
re: #167 thedopefishlives
Which I’ve never had, but would like to try. Any suggestions? The local meat market sells the little buggers and I might just pick some up the next time I have some free money for meat.
Will work for meat! No suggestions. I only had the frozen variety. Tasted good but it was just one game hen which was like a snack.
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Ghost of a Dopefish Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:17:17am |
re: #170 Gus 802
Will work for meat! No suggestions. I only had the frozen variety. Tasted good but it was just one game hen which was like a snack.
I meant more along the lines of preparation. The only way I’m really used to doing meat is on a grill.
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Semper Fi Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:19:07am |
re: #7 ggt
Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.
Most people here don’t have a clue about the situation.
I had one co-worker absolutely confused when I told her it was illegal to be Christian on some places in the ME. She thought everyone celebrated Christmas, espeically those in the ME because that’s where “Christ was from”.
I’ve also experienced similar and so many were at voting age.
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ReamWorks SKG Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:21:21am |
Anna Eshoo, my congresswoman, just emailed me an OBSCENE message!
Because of your interest in promoting responsible homeownership and a renewed housing market, I want to share some of my recent legislative work with you. I’m a cosponsor of three pieces of legislation that will support the vital role housing plays in our nascent economic recovery.
o H.R. 1754, the Preserving Access to Mortgage Finance Programs Act, would extend existing conforming loan limits, which range from $417,000 to $729,750, depending on the local median home price. The limits are set to expire at the end of September, and if that occurs, the maximum conforming loan limit will decrease almost $100,000. This would have a damaging impact on the housing market in our Congressional District and our region.
This is an outrage!
1. Why are we raising the amount for a government-backed mortgage when house prices FELL 20% last year?
2. Isn’t “borrowing too much money” what got all those people in trouble in the first place
3. It won’t have a damaging effect on people who were smart enough not to buy homes at inflated prices, and would like prices to reset to realistic norms. (A median house price should be about 2x median salary. At most.)
Frankly, I’d rather see a photo of some dusty old part of her body, than this abomination.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:21:35am |
re: #165 Lidane
The entire discussion is moot as long as the two major parties have a stranglehold on electoral law. As it stands now, it’s very difficult for a third party to even get on the ballot, much less at a truly competitive level.
this is what is meant by “bipartisanship” ^_^
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:21:39am |
re: #165 Lidane
The entire discussion is moot as long as the two major parties have a stranglehold on electoral law. As it stands now, it’s very difficult for a third party to even get on the ballot, much less at a truly competitive level.
I think, if anything, both our political parties should be primarily described as “corporativist”. There are differences beyond that - but I see little that is going to budge things off that core given how our political system works and is funded.
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blueraven Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:23:07am |
re: #171 thedopefishlives
I meant more along the lines of preparation. The only way I’m really used to doing meat is on a grill.
I like to brown them up really good in a cast iron pan. But first I brown a bit of pork fat (bacon or lardons) Remove the pork and brown the birds. Remove the birds and brown mushrooms then add garlic and pearl onions. Deglaze with red wine, throw everything back in the pan, cover and stick in the oven till tender.
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Ghost of a Dopefish Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:24:29am |
re: #176 blueraven
I like to brown them up really good in a cast iron pan. But first I brown a bit of pork fat (bacon or lardons) Remove the pork and brown the birds. Remove the birds and brown mushrooms then add garlic and pearl onions. Deglaze with red wine, throw everything back in the pan, cover and stick in the oven till tender.
I shouldn’t have asked. Now I’m hungry.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:27:16am |
re: #173 reuven
America’s economy has been corrupted, perhaps for the next two decades, by the after effects of its reliance on easy home loan money, by the evil of Wall Street, the evil of multinational banks, by the housing bubble, by the shell game of real estate in this country
Last time we saw prices dip this low this quickly was the great depression
As for me, I rent, a satisfied customer! And I’ll toast the bulldozer driver who sweeps away all those empty mcmansions left to ruin, all those vegas and texas exurbs, built with phantom money on unsustainable land
Madoff went to jail, too bad a thousand more madoffs are still out there free as can be
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:28:42am |
re: #175 oaktree
I think, if anything, both our political parties should be primarily described as “corporativist”. There are differences beyond that - but I see little that is going to budge things off that core given how our political system works and is funded.
The differences are mostly social and tribal
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laZardo Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:31:47am |
re: #179 WindUpBird
The differences are mostly social and tribal
And for having 50 states - not counting territories and protectorates - instead of just 16 or so.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:33:29am |
re: #156 laZardo
Mainly because their current presidential candidates are either a graying safety advocate and a raging anti-Semite.
Nader appeared on the same far right racist show, btw.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:33:44am |
re: #178 WindUpBird
We also labor under the illusion that bookeeping at a corporate level is an exact science, like balancing a checkbook. It is a creative art to make an otherwise insolvent bank or corporation appear to still have positive assets, and works as long as all the other banks and corporations are playing along.
And that was what finally happened, one parter got so overleveraged that they could no longer plausibly conceal their negative assets and the entire edifice started to crumble.
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laZardo Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:34:54am |
re: #182 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Nader appeared on the same far right racist show, btw.
Hence, the moronic convergence, at “Jew Hate Junction.”
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ReamWorks SKG Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:35:19am |
re: #178 WindUpBird
When I graduated college, mortgage rates were double digits (and you could get 5% interest on your checking account).
You could get a house on long island for $65K, and people made $30K. And they could afford them.
Holding interest rates artificially low to prop up house prices at the expense of savers is one of the most disgusting things being done to to the American people today. But since only a tiny fraction of Americans are “savers”, nobody cares.
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Semper Fi Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:36:14am |
re: #104 Rightwingconspirator
Beautiful sunrise right now at Mt Wilson
I love CA but gotta see NYC this year. Never been there.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:37:06am |
Anthony Cumia (from Opie and Anthony show) went out drinking with Breitbart and Ann Coulter. Supposedly Breitbart was showing a very graphic pic of Wiener’s penis to people in the bar/ This is supposedly a pic of Anne Coulter’s reaction as she see’s the pic on a laptop.
[Link: www.mobypicture.com…]
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:37:12am |
re: #184 laZardo
Hence, the moronic convergence, at “Jew Hate Junction.”
This should remind us that “left” and “right” are arbitrary designations that date back to the French Parliament, when government supporters were seated on the right to keep them from engaging in fisticuffs with opponents of the government who were seated on the left.
But that does not prevent a spate of books and articles on how “Hitler was a leftist”.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:37:58am |
re: #184 laZardo
Hence, the moronic convergence, at “Jew Hate Junction.”
It’s always fun (not) confronting their idiotic followers just with the Daryl Bradford Smith appearances, alone, let alone Nader/McKranky’s other crankodoodle positions. It’s so bad, you have to tell people “dude is a moon-landing denier” to get them to pay attention.
Antisemitism/Jewish-baiting/white nationalism? Gets you only a yawn.
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Ghost of a Dopefish Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:38:42am |
re: #187 Killgore Trout
Anthony Cumia (from Opie and Anthony show) went out drinking with Breitbart and Ann Coulter. Supposedly Breitbart was showing a very graphic pic of Wiener’s penis to people in the bar/ This is supposedly a pic of Anne Coulter’s reaction as she see’s the pic on a laptop.
[Link: www.mobypicture.com…]
So he was out flashing the picture around, what, just for fun? How despicable.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:39:11am |
re: #187 Killgore Trout
So the three of them are in the bar, Coulter sees the photo, but she doesn’t react until she’s outside talking top someone else!?!?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:40:48am |
re: #186 Semper Fi
I love CA but gotta see NYC this year. Never been there.
Too hot. I like it better in April or May.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:41:13am |
re: #190 thedopefishlives
So he was out flashing the picture around, what, just for fun? How despicable.
Yup. The pic will surely get out. He’s also really careless and forgetful. He would go to the bathroom and leave his Ipad on the table, he even left his cell phone at the bar and had to have somebody bring it to him later.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:42:20am |
re: #191 sattv4u2
So the three of them are in the bar, Coulter sees the photo, but she doesn’t react until she’s outside talking top someone else!?!?
No, they were out on the street between bars when that pic was taken.
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blueraven Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:42:25am |
re: #187 Killgore Trout
Anthony Cumia (from Opie and Anthony show) went out drinking with Breitbart and Ann Coulter. Supposedly Breitbart was showing a very graphic pic of Wiener’s penis to people in the bar/ This is supposedly a pic of Anne Coulter’s reaction as she see’s the pic on a laptop.
[Link: www.mobypicture.com…]
Who takes their laptop out drinking? AB is such a juvenile creep.
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Ghost of a Dopefish Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:43:24am |
re: #193 Killgore Trout
Yup. The pic will surely get out. He’s also really careless and forgetful. He would go to the bathroom and leave his Ipad on the table, he even left his cell phone at the bar and had to have somebody bring it to him later.
Gee, that makes me even less confident in his drummed-up outrage stories.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:43:33am |
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Semper Fi Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:43:50am |
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blueraven Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:44:12am |
re: #193 Killgore Trout
Yup. The pic will surely get out. He’s also really careless and forgetful. He would go to the bathroom and leave his Ipad on the table, he even left his cell phone at the bar and had to have somebody bring it to him later.
Yes, it will get out and he will deny having anything to do with it.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:45:10am |
re: #198 Semper Fi
How’s early Sep?
Sept-Oct is gorgeous. I should say, though, I’ve only worked out of there, never lived there.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:45:21am |
re: #194 Killgore Trout
No, they were out on the street between bars when that pic was taken.
Sorry if I misunderstood but thats not how you wrote it
Breitbart was showing a very graphic pic of Wiener’s penis to people in the bar
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Semper Fi Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:45:55am |
re: #200 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Sept-Oct is gorgeous. I should say, though, I’ve only worked out of there, never lived there.
Thanks. Gives me something to think about.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:46:34am |
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Semper Fi Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:48:02am |
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:48:26am |
re: #185 reuven
When I graduated college, mortgage rates were double digits (and you could get 5% interest on your checking account).
You could get a house on long island for $65K, and people made $30K. And they could afford them.
Holding interest rates artificially low to prop up house prices at the expense of savers is one of the most disgusting things being done to to the American people today. But since only a tiny fraction of Americans are “savers”, nobody cares.
Wages have not kept up with inflation or the cost of living. As we all know, they have been stagnant for many decades now. While at the same time we’ve seen the earnings of the ruling upper classes skyrocket.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:49:15am |
re: #207 Gus 802
Wages have not kept up with inflation or the cost of living. As we all know, they have been stagnant for many decades now. While at the same time we’ve seen the earnings of the ruling upper classes skyrocket.
I am making 20% less now than I was making 10 years ago.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:49:49am |
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ReamWorks SKG Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:51:15am |
re: #208 Alouette
Lucky you! You’re paying less taxes!
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:51:49am |
re: #208 Alouette
I am making 20% less now than I was making 10 years ago.
There ya’ go. Not only stagnant but in many cases such as years they’ve gone into reverse. The latest trend is not only lower wages but a great deal of “internship” scams. People are actually working for free and literally “volunteering” for profitable organizations.
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ReamWorks SKG Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:52:01am |
OK! It’s time to work! And get ready for Shavuos! See y’all Friday! Let’s hope there’s no more congressional penis tweets!
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:52:49am |
re: #211 Gus 802
There ya’ go. Not only stagnant but in many cases such as years they’ve gone into reverse. The latest trend is not only lower wages but a great deal of “internship” scams. People are actually working for free and literally “volunteering” for profitable organizations.
Unemployed people will accept internships and volunteer positions just in order not to have a blank space on their resume.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:53:56am |
Dear UN
Please LOOK!!!
[Link: www.boston.com…]
The Syrian gov’t is now claiming that “armed gangs” are slaughtering police and rampaging unabated
History is shaped by those that write it
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:54:15am |
re: #214 Alouette
Unemployed people will accept internships and volunteer positions just in order not to have a blank space on their resume.
It does that too of course. But knowing humans I can’t help but think of how many people will be taken advantage of because of this.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:54:32am |
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:54:38am |
And we allowed housing prices to rise due to cheap mortgage credit far beyond the growth of the economy. And then were taken by surprise when the readjustment set in.
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lawhawk Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:55:08am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. If you’re a commuter in the NYC metro area and have reason to use PATH or the Port Authority bridges and tolls, expect fare and toll hikes by the end of the year. The bistate agency is in a budget mess, and fare and toll hikes are a way to raise $300 million or more needed.
That’s something I was warning about back in February and April as the reports of cost overruns at Ground Zero were reported to be far higher than anyone anticipated. The WTC PATH hub was supposed to cost $2.2 billion as of a 2005 estimate, but estimates earlier this year but it at $3.2 billion, then $3.4 billion, and now $3.8 billion is looking much more plausible.
The agency claimed it was engaging in stringent cost controls when word leaked about the cost overruns from the $2.2 billion estimate, but it seems that they’re wholly ineffective, and the overruns are pushing the PANY into hiking tolls to cover the problem.
Had the agency been able to keep the budget to $3.2 billion, that would be $600 million (or $400 million if working from $3.4 billion), that the PANY would have and not need to hike tolls and fares.
To sum, the cost overruns are now more than 50% higher than the original estimates - and still rising. That’s a huge problem.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:56:11am |
re: #212 reuven
OK! It’s time to work! And get ready for Shavuos! See y’all Friday! Let’s hope there’s no more congressional penis tweets!
I have made the cheesecake and the blintzes.
Zedushka is making the gefilte fish, the chicken soup and the brisket (which I prepped for him)
When I get home, I will make the salmon, the sushi. I’m sure my little granddaughters will love making sushi! (at least one of them will prefer to watch something on the big screen TV)
What else? Eggplant salad? I’ll let my daughter-in-law make the salads.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:56:25am |
Weiner Told Porn Star to Lie, Offered PR Help
Congressman Anthony Weiner instructed one of his Internet women how to lie about their relationship … and even offered PR help from his team, which could create major legal issues for him … TMZ has learned.
That may become a legal problem for the flaccid Democrat.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:56:48am |
re: #216 Gus 802
It does that too of course. But knowing humans I can’t help but think of how many people will be taken advantage of because of this.
Why pay somebody to do the work when you can get somebody to work for free?
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:58:00am |
re: #222 Alouette
Why pay somebody to do the work when you can get somebody to work for free?
It’s the only way we can underbid the Chinese and Indonesians…
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:58:18am |
re: #222 Alouette
Why pay somebody to do the work when you can get somebody to work for free?
Essentially. Pretty sad if you ask me but that’s part of this new America we’ve been seeing since October of 2008. Yippee!
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 7:59:48am |
re: #221 NJDhockeyfan
Weiner Told Porn Star to Lie, Offered PR Help
That may become a legal problem for the flaccid Democrat.
Very sad and annoying.
Still, at least Weiner doesn’t want to cut support for the poor and elderly, in order to funnel more money to the wealthy.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:01:19am |
re: #224 Gus 802
Essentially. Pretty sad if you ask me but that’s part of this new America we’ve been seeing since October of 2008. Yippee!
But you know, a leftwing party, that would be “even worse” ;-)
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Semper Fi Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:02:07am |
re: #209 sattv4u2
Latter part of Sept til mid Oct I would say
That fine tunes it a bit. This is not cast in concrete but been entertaining this idea a number of years…
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:02:43am |
re: #195 blueraven
Who takes their laptop out drinking? AB is such a juvenile creep.
haha actually, I have, on occasion, but that was years ago, before all my friends had smartphones
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:03:27am |
re: #225 iossarian
Very sad and annoying.
Still, at least Weiner doesn’t want to cut support for the poor and elderly, in order to funnel more money to the wealthy.
No, he just wanted to have phone sex on his office phone with his female fans he met on Facebook. That’s fantastic work he’s been doing on the taxpayer’s dime.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:04:05am |
re: #229 NJDhockeyfan
No, he just wanted to have phone sex on his office phone with his female fans he met on Facebook. That’s fantastic work he’s been doing on the taxpayer’s dime.
This is the point where his private life becomes a public matter.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:04:34am |
re: #229 NJDhockeyfan
No, he just wanted to have phone sex on his office phone with his female fans he met on Facebook. That’s fantastic work he’s been doing on the taxpayer’s dime.
Almost as fantastic as all the GOP Klansmen bashing gays on the taxpayers dime OH SHIT DID I SAY THAT OUT LOUD
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:04:48am |
re: #229 NJDhockeyfan
No, he just wanted to have phone sex on his office phone with his female fans he met on Facebook. That’s fantastic work he’s been doing on the taxpayer’s dime.
Can’t defend the right’s policies so you go after the personal stuff. Classic.
Let me tell you for the record, I don’t give a shit what congresspeople do in their down time as long as they’re not hypocritical about “sexual deviancy” in others.
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Semper Fi Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:04:53am |
re: #213 Gus 802
Oops. Insert water into coffee maker before turning it on. Doh!
I’ve done that. Also, forgot to add coffee once and when it was done perkin’ it was just hot water.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:05:17am |
re: #231 WindUpBird
Almost as fantastic as all the GOP Klansmen bashing gays on the taxpayers dime OH SHIT DID I SAY THAT OUT LOUD
You sure did, and I’m glad.
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:05:36am |
re: #229 NJDhockeyfan
No, he just wanted to have phone sex on his office phone with his female fans he met on Facebook. That’s fantastic work he’s been doing on the taxpayer’s dime.
Is everything you do in your spare time done on your employer’s dime?
What a charmingly serf-like way of viewing the world!
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:05:44am |
re: #231 WindUpBird
Almost as fantastic as all the GOP Klansmen bashing gays on the taxpayers dime OH SHIT DID I SAY THAT OUT LOUD
GOP Klansmen? WTF?
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:05:50am |
re: #226 WindUpBird
But you know, a leftwing party, that would be “even worse” ;-)
Is there actually a leftwing party in power in the USA? ;) In any case, this countries problems are so systemic and many of the causes are so ingrained into the American psyche that they frequently cross party lines. Americans in the end are actually good little soldiers. Complaining is frowned upon. Just watch “Twilight” and do as your told.
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Interesting Times Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:06:13am |
re: #228 WindUpBird
Followed your new Twitter acct :) I use a different name there, which you can get by clicking my avatar and then the Follow button (don’t wish to put my twitter username in a publicly-viewable comment)
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:06:18am |
re: #236 NJDhockeyfan
GOP Klansmen? WTF?
You know, the ones who think homosexuality should be illegal.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:06:27am |
re: #232 iossarian
Can’t defend the right’s policies so you go after the personal stuff. Classic.
Let me tell you for the record, I don’t give a shit what congresspeople do in their down time as long as they’re not hypocritical about “sexual deviancy” in others.
He did it from his office. That is not ‘down time’.
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:06:55am |
re: #233 Semper Fi
I’ve done that. Also, forgot to add coffee once and when it was done perkin’ it was just hot water.
The toaster is in the refrigerator. How did it get there?
//
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:07:03am |
re: #230 ralphieboy
This is the point where his private life becomes a public matter.
Real east coast shit, that, haha
east-coast democrats (Hi, elliot spitzer! Hi, wall street Dem corporatists protecting the pigs at all costs as the country crumbles!) haven’t been blowing my doors off lately
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:07:34am |
re: #240 NJDhockeyfan
He did it from his office. That is not ‘down time’.
OMG stop the presses he sent emails and made personal phone calls from his office.
I expect everyone to spend all their time at work, working.
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Ghost of a Dopefish Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:07:34am |
re: #233 Semper Fi
I’ve done that. Also, forgot to add coffee once and when it was done perkin’ it was just hot water.
We had one where we put instant coffee in the coffee machine instead of regular grounds. We were trying to figure out why it was strong enough to melt steel, and why there were no grounds left in the machine when we went to clean it out.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:07:41am |
re: #235 iossarian
Is everything you do in your spare time done on your employer’s dime?
What a charmingly serf-like way of viewing the world!
The question is whether he was using or offering to use government asets to pursue his private entertainment here. That is the point that it is no longer just his own business.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:08:01am |
re: #239 iossarian
You know, the ones who think homosexuality should be illegal.
Who are the klansman? I can think of one who was in DC for many years and he was not in the GOP. WTF are you talking about?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:08:55am |
re: #232 iossarian
Can’t defend the right’s policies so you go after the personal stuff. Classic.
they have policies? :D
I thought they just had pitchforks and torches
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:09:23am |
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:09:24am |
re: #246 NJDhockeyfan
Who are the klansman? I can think of one who was in DC for many years and he was not in the GOP. WTF are you talking about?
Oh, I see, you’re quibbling with the “klansmen” epithet.
Let’s put it this way: “the bigots in the GOP who think that homosexuality should be illegal”. Better now?
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Ghost of a Dopefish Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:09:31am |
re: #243 iossarian
OMG stop the presses he sent emails and made personal phone calls from his office.
I expect everyone to spend all their time at work, working.
Whoops. Gotta go, be back in 5 hours.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:10:08am |
re: #245 ralphieboy
The question is whether he was using or offering to use government asets to pursue his private entertainment here. That is the point that it is no longer just his own business.
Forget about it. The left will give him a pass because he’s a Dem.
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:10:51am |
re: #233 Semper Fi
I’ve done that. Also, forgot to add coffee once and when it was done perkin’ it was just hot water.
When you do that you just make tea at that point… ;)
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:11:00am |
re: #252 NJDhockeyfan
Forget about it. The left will give him a pass because he’s a Dem.
And the right will give the next one a pass because he’s GOP.
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Semper Fi Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:11:05am |
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:11:27am |
re: #252 NJDhockeyfan
Forget about it. The left will give him a pass because he’s
a Demnot going to vote to defund Medicaid and screw the poor.
Fixed that for you.
But then, when you have no sane policies, I guess there’s a lot more that needs to be fixed than a bit of tittle-tattle whining.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:11:35am |
re: #246 NJDhockeyfan
Who are the klansman? I can think of one who was in DC for many years and he was not in the GOP. WTF are you talking about?
protip: when your party’s position is to deny me medical visitation rights to my partner, they’re no better than the Klan
God bless Jesus and America and the GOP, can’t stop salutin’ them armed forces! Watch out Marines, gonna have you a gay next to ya, gonna bunk ya ta punk ya yuk yuk
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rwdflynavy Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:11:37am |
re: #249 iossarian
Oh, I see, you’re quibbling with the “klansmen” epithet.
Let’s put it this way: “the bigots in the GOP who think that homosexuality should be illegal”. Better now?
Those would be homophobes, not Klansmen. See Klansmen are racial bigots.
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:12:13am |
re: #258 rwdflynavy
Those would be homophobes, not Klansmen. See Klansmen are racial bigots.
You mean like Rand Paul?
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:12:32am |
re: #255 Semper Fi
That puts you ahead
/
I almost did that on several mornings. Last time I also almost dipped a plugged in coffee grinder into the kitchen sink filled with water.
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Semper Fi Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:12:40am |
re: #244 thedopefishlives
We had one where we put instant coffee in the coffee machine instead of regular grounds. We were trying to figure out why it was strong enough to melt steel, and why there were no grounds left in the machine when we went to clean it out.
The morning mystery.
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rwdflynavy Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:12:46am |
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blueraven Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:12:46am |
re: #240 NJDhockeyfan
He did it from his office. That is not ‘down time’.
I dont remember you being so indignant about Senator Ensign. Maybe you were and I just missed it.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:12:54am |
re: #252 NJDhockeyfan
Forget about it. The left will give him a pass because he’s a Dem.
Probably. Wiener’s antics have gotten a lot of press but in the grand scheme of things it’s a fairly minor scandal. Kennedy killed a chick and stayed in office just fine. Bush did coke, clinton got a bj, etc. I just don’t see this Wiener thing as a big deal.
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rwdflynavy Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:13:32am |
re: #264 Killgore Trout
Probably. Wiener’s antics have gotten a lot of press but in the grand scheme of things it’s a fairly minor scandal. Kennedy killed a chick and stayed in office just fine. Bush did coke, clinton got a bj, etc. I just don’t see this Wiener thing as a big deal.
Did you see the pic??!?!?
//
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:13:43am |
re: #243 iossarian
OMG stop the presses he sent emails and made personal phone calls from his office.
I expect everyone to spend all their time at work, working.
Weiner is now in the same dumbshit category as John Edwards
Basically, I’ll take an idiot mailing his dick to every blackberry in SoHo over the GOP, naturally Weiner is an idiot, but at least he’s not an idiot waving a cross at loving couples
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:14:14am |
re: #258 rwdflynavy
Those would be homophobes, not Klansmen. See Klansmen are racial bigots.
They are racial bigots, religious bigots, and every other kind of states rights bigots. Klansmen are also special-rights-for-straights and see homosexuality as perversion.
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Ericus58 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:14:47am |
re: #225 iossarian
Very sad and annoying.
Still, at least Weiner doesn’t want to cut support for the poor and elderly, in order to funnel more money to the wealthy.
….[something] Balance [something]…
Look, some of you folks need to just address this as how it pertains to Weiner. Clearly, at the very least he’s unethical. An investigation will turn up if he’s committed more serious offences.
He’s pretty much hit “scum” on the meter.
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Semper Fi Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:15:24am |
re: #253 oaktree
When you do that you just make tea at that point… ;)
We weren’t smart enough because we were all primed for coffee. Never even occurred to us.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:15:59am |
re: #258 rwdflynavy
Those would be homophobes, not Klansmen. See Klansmen are racial bigots.
All the same from where I sit :)
Homophobes aren’t organized. The so-cons in the GOP? Quite organized! Neo-Klan, baby
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:16:02am |
re: #248 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Their most recent specimen: [Link: politi.co…]
Her’s another one for ya. [Link: winterhaven.wtsp.com…]
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:16:39am |
re: #266 WindUpBird
Weiner is now in the same dumbshit category as John Edwards
Basically, I’ll take an idiot mailing his dick to every blackberry in SoHo over the GOP, naturally Weiner is an idiot, but at least he’s not an idiot waving a cross at loving couples
True that. I’m trying to ignore the Weiner news but damn he did screw up. Let the ball fall where it may though. Looks like this news is continually evolving. Kind of sad that this is such front page news though.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:16:58am |
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:17:51am |
re: #263 blueraven
I dont remember you being so indignant about Senator Ensign. Maybe you were and I just missed it.
You probably missed it. I don’t care for scumbag politicians from either side.
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laZardo Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:18:06am |
re: #272 Gus 802
True that. I’m trying to ignore the Weiner news but damn he did screw up. Let the ball fall where it may though.
One before the other.
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:18:09am |
re: #268 Ericus58
…[something] Balance [something]…
Look, some of you folks need to just address this as how it pertains to Weiner. Clearly, at the very least he’s unethical. An investigation will turn up if he’s committed more serious offences.
He’s pretty much hit “scum” on the meter.
I think there should be an ethics investigation. What Weiner seems to have done (at the moment, pending further revelations) I would put as more benign than Ensign, for example, because it’s not apparent (unless I’ve missed something) that he did anything illegal*. But obviously there needs to be some kind of reckoning.
*Not sure if Ensign paying off his mistress and her husband was technically illegal but it does seem to be worse than Weiner’s cover-up attempts.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:18:21am |
re: #272 Gus 802
True that. I’m trying to ignore the Weiner news but damn he did screw up. Let the ball fall where it may though. Looks like this news is continually evolving. Kind of sad that this is such front page news though.
Ah politics!
Doesn’t even bother me, really. New York democrats and me got nothing in common. Wall Street is dogshit, and they’re part of the dogshit machine
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ProBosniaLiberal Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:18:54am |
re: #215 sattv4u2
Shoot at your own people enough, and they will shoot back.
I don’t now if the government will fall or not. Its 50-50 I think.
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Semper Fi Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:19:12am |
re: #260 Gus 802
I almost did that on several mornings. Last time I also almost dipped a plugged in coffee grinder into the kitchen sink filled with water.
That can get very serious with nasty outcomes. Would make me think things over too.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:19:43am |
re: #274 Gus 802
Sex!
The GOP loves it when people fuck not according to plan, there’s a lot of votes there!
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lawhawk Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:20:35am |
More questions are emerging about what happened in Jisr al Shugur, and there are now reports that Palestinian mourners in the Yarmouk refugee camp clashed with the PFLP over being manipulated into going to the Golan border to spark conflicts with Israel. Mourners confronted PFLP thugs, and unidentified persons fired on the mourners, leaving another 12 people dead.
It’s long past time for the Palestinians to realize that the PFLP, Syria, and other regimes are no friends to the Palestinians, and maybe this will help spark a true reform among Palestinians (but I doubt it if history has any guide). They’ve been cynically manipulated for far too long, but being used as cannon fodder over the weekend apparently revealed the terror groups (and Assad’s intentions).
Assad continues his brutal crackdown, and reports circulating yesterday about the 120 security killed in Jisr al Shugur by state run media conflicts with other reports from locals and human rights groups. In fact, some locals claim that some of the security forces had defected and refused to crack down against protesters, and so loyalists may have opened fire - or the state-run media is inflating the body count to allow Assad to crack down harshly.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:20:44am |
Another KKK/GOP class act….this thing ran last year for US Senator for MO.
[Link: bit.ly…]
That’s just being literal about KKK in the GOP. This does not include White Citizen’s Council/Council of Conservative Citizens, nor does it include the various GOP platforms that are openly antigay.
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Ghost of a Dopefish Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:20:57am |
re: #274 Gus 802
Sex!
Old sex joke:
A couple of younger guys were trading stories talking sex in the shop. The conversation wandered onto the topic of whether or not married men get more action. Being studly bachelors, they had no idea, and when the disagreement heated up, they decided to ask the one married guy on the shop floor how much sex he got. He replied, “I have a 5-year-old son, but darned if I can remember how that happened.”
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:21:26am |
What people do on their own time and at their own expense should remain their own business.
I make two exceptions: if these people make an issue of what other people do for fun on their own time and expense, and if people are using taxpayer’s money to pursue their activities.
Then they should be open to public scrutiny.
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ProBosniaLiberal Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:21:37am |
re: #271 NJDhockeyfan
Ah, the old Byrd trick.
Tell me, which party in Mississippi has a plurality/majority of its members what miscegenation laws reintroduced?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:22:18am |
re: #283 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Another KKK/GOP class act…this thing ran last year for US Senator for MO.
[Link: bit.ly…]
That’s just being literal about KKK in the GOP. This does not include White Citizen’s Council/Council of Conservative Citizens, nor does it include the various GOP platforms that are openly antigay.
Ahhh yeah, the CCC, good stalwart Republicans!
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:22:28am |
re: #286 ProLifeLiberal
Ah, the old Byrd trick.
Tell me, which party in Mississippi has a plurality/majority of its members what miscegenation laws reintroduced?
Must pre-empt the next Obama…
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:22:30am |
re: #273 WindUpBird
here’s one for ya!
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
I bet she looks good in white!
That makes no sense.
Here’s another KKK racist Dem politician:
Democrat and Former KKK Member Running Against GOP Incumbent…
Warsaw resident and avowed white supremacist Tom Metzger is seeking the Third District U.S. Congressman seat as a write-in candidate.
…Metzger, 71, has led the Ku Klux Klan and founded his own white supremacist group.
…In 1980, he won the Democratic Party’s nomination for the U.S. House of Representatives in San Diego. He later lost in the general election to the Republican incumbent.
In 1982, he received three percent of the vote during a United States Senate run in the Democratic Party Primary.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:22:45am |
re: #286 ProLifeLiberal
Ah, the old Byrd trick.
Tell me, which party in Mississippi has a plurality/majority of its members what miscegenation laws reintroduced?
Watch the shuck and jive!
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Semper Fi Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:23:14am |
Good morning folks. Gonna go buy a breakfast. Just lazy this morning.
Have a nice one.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:23:41am |
re: #289 NJDhockeyfan
Find me some o’ them pro-gay socially conservative republicans please, straight family whitey :)
COME ON EVERYONE, LET’S GIVE HIM A HAND, HE’S TRYING HIS BEST, BLESS HIS HEART
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:23:42am |
OK. Looking for some recommendations here.
Driving south from Philadelphia towards North Carolina on Thursday and will have a few hours I can spend playing tourist since I do not have to be in/near Charlotte until noon on Friday.
I was thinking of visiting the Petersburg Battlefield Park (NPS) but that looks like something that needs more time than I have to properly visit. Anyone have a suggestion about a location (or two) worthy of a stop that is generally on the I-95/I-85 corridor?
Doesn’t have to be historical mind you.
I plan on heading home via a more westernly route and thus will see the Blue Ridge on that leg. Thinking of visiting Harper’s Ferry possibly on the way home. (I have been to Antietum and Gettysburg previously. And have seen the New River Gorge as well.)
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:23:43am |
re: #286 ProLifeLiberal
Ah, the old Byrd trick.
Tell me, which party in Mississippi has a plurality/majority of its members what miscegenation laws reintroduced?
The “Southern Democrat Fallback Whine” is the weakest shit you’ll ever see.
re: #287 WindUpBird
Ahhh yeah, the CCC, good stalwart Republicans!
The letters change but the shit stays the same.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:24:53am |
re: #289 NJDhockeyfan
Thanks for being my symbol of vacuous republican stalwart privilege for the day, nothing personal, you’re more a hapless symbol than anything
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:25:15am |
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:26:04am |
re: #296 WindUpBird
These days, they burn crosses on the internet!
Less polluting of the environment. Shows that they care.
/
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:26:52am |
re: #289 NJDhockeyfan
I really don’t get it. The GOP has a national platform that is anti-gay.
Why are you digging up obscure people who have no influence on Democratic policy?
Is there a good reason? I’d like to hear what it is. Are you seriously claiming that the Democrats are also an anti-gay party?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:27:01am |
re: #271 NJDhockeyfan
Her’s another one for ya. [Link: winterhaven.wtsp.com…]
Show me the D equivalent of the special-rights-for-heteros plank in the R platform.
And no, Barack Obama putting Eric Holder X as Head of the New Black Panther Division of the DOJ doesn’t count.
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ProBosniaLiberal Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:27:13am |
re: #294 iossarian
Best way to summarize is thus: One person a party does not make (at least in the US. Most of the time). The wants of the Mississippi Republican Party members says a whole hell of a lot more about the Republicans than one kook says about the Democrats.
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Kronocide Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:28:35am |
re: #298 iossarian
Is there a good reason? I’d like to hear what it is. Are you seriously claiming that the Democrats are also an anti-gay party?
Balance Fairy wielding the Equivocation Scepter.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:29:06am |
re: #294 iossarian
The “Southern Democrat Fallback Whine” is the weakest shit you’ll ever see.
I sorta feel bad, because who’s left anymore here would even try and lay something like that out with a straight face? NJD and Dark Falcon, and who else? There ain’t no champions anymore, they all let their mask slip and ran away, brookly red was sort of the last brain damaged dumbass who tried to throw down, now he’s on the other side with everyone else on the short bus
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Interesting Times Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:29:40am |
re: #296 WindUpBird
These days, they burn crosses on the internet!
Check out this Twitter profile - GOP base right here, gloriously letting it all hang out
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laZardo Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:29:56am |
re: #302 WindUpBird
I sorta feel bad, because who’s left anymore here would even try and lay something like that out with a straight face? NJD and Dark Falcon, and who else? There ain’t no champions anymore, they all let their mask slip and ran away, brookly red was sort of the last brain damaged dumbass who tried to throw down, now he’s on the other side with everyone else on the short bus
SB probably.
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:30:06am |
re: #302 WindUpBird
Remember, the former extreme racist Southern Democrats have been all but completely co-opted by the GOP.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:30:22am |
re: #298 iossarian
I really don’t get it. The GOP has a national platform that is anti-gay.
Why are you digging up obscure people who have no influence on Democratic policy?
Is there a good reason? I’d like to hear what it is. Are you seriously claiming that the Democrats are also an anti-gay party?
Because he just doesn’t understand. He’s not very bright, he doesn’t think critically.
Sometimes the simple answer is correct, ya know?
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:30:43am |
re: #301 BigPapa
Balance Fairy wielding the Equivocation Scepter.
I want to hear him say it. I want to hear him say: “yes, I think the Democrats are just as anti-gay as the Republicans”.
Either that, or “no, I’m not saying the Democrats are just as anti-gay as the Republicans, because that isn’t true”.
Either will do.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:31:00am |
re: #304 laZardo
SB probably.
Slumbering Behemoth is smart, SB would never lay the Robert Byrd meme shit on us
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:31:18am |
re: #307 iossarian
I want to hear him say it. I want to hear him say: “yes, I think the Democrats are just as anti-gay as the Republicans”.
Either that, or “no, I’m not saying the Democrats are just as anti-gay as the Republicans, because that isn’t true”.
Either will do.
Maybe he’s enough of a tard to, probably not
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:31:43am |
Minnesota House Moves To Ban Same-Sex Marriage
In an echo of Civil Rights Movement protests, crowds of people sang “We Shall Overcome” outside the doors of the Minnesota House on Saturday in response to the passage of a state constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.
The vote was 70-62, and concluded with one of the bill sponsors, Representative Gottwalt (R-St. Cloud), saying that this issue is one the public should decide. The amendment is now on the ballot for the 2012 elections…
I’ve been out of the loop for over a month now. But damn, it doesn’t take long to remind me of how much the GOP bores me to death with their anti-gay paranoia. The government should have no place in regulating gay marriage. Full stop. End of story. And they can take their religious reasoning for this and shove it up their ass. :)
Thanks for listening. ;)
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:31:43am |
re: #303 publicityStunted
Check out this Twitter profile - GOP base right here, gloriously letting it all hang out
40 years ago he woulda been a Southern Democrat…
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:31:44am |
re: #309 WindUpBird
Maybe he’s enough of a tard to, probably not
At this point I’m expecting “off to work” as option C).
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:31:59am |
re: #289 NJDhockeyfan
seriously dude, how can someone with such well-sorted music tastes be such a fucking retard when it comes to politics?
How can you possibly be this clueless?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:32:17am |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:32:57am |
re: #289 NJDhockeyfan
That makes no sense.
Here’s another KKK racist Dem politician:
Democrat and Former KKK Member Running Against GOP Incumbent…
1980. And?
You’re better off sticking with that old tatterd robert byrd exkkk card.
Meanwhile, still white supremacist conservative bigot, won as an R in the 90s [Link: bit.ly…]
Still waiting on the antigay plank in the Democratic platform.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:33:24am |
re: #293 oaktree
HArper’s Ferry is very cool. I went to college near there. If you can arrange to be there in the evening they do a guided ghost tour that’s kind of fun.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:33:57am |
I have bashed every nasty racist regardless of which political side they are on. You lefties seem to give passes to the racist Dems. All the examples are up thread.
LOL…you all are so predictable.
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:33:58am |
re: #313 laZardo
Satt or Steve?
Even DF has the “not an important voting issue for me” defense, which at least is rational (if not admirable).
I don’t think anyone really defends the GOP on their social policies any more.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:34:52am |
re: #318 NJDhockeyfan
I have bashed every nasty racist regardless of which political side they are on. You lefties seem to give passes to the racist Dems. All the examples are up thread.
LOL…you all are so predictable.
Nobody buys your weak shit besides the stalkers, dude. NOBODY BUYS IT :) You have been a loser here on this issue for months
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:35:01am |
re: #318 NJDhockeyfan
I have bashed every nasty racist regardless of which political side they are on. You lefties seem to give passes to the racist Dems. All the examples are up thread.
LOL…you all are so predictable.
Straight question: do you think that GOP policy is more discriminatory against gay people than Democratic policy, or not?
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:35:22am |
re: #314 WindUpBird
seriously dude, how can someone with such well-sorted music tastes be such a fucking retard when it comes to politics?
How can you possibly be this clueless?
My opinion is that the comments are not clueless, but opting to pot-stir.
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Kronocide Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:35:23am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:35:46am |
re: #319 iossarian
Even DF has the “not an important voting issue for me” defense, which at least is rational (if not admirable).
I don’t think anyone really defends the GOP on their social policies any more.
Well, he backed up to that AFTER saying that that woman should have been thrown in jail for that abortion. ;-)
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Varek Raith Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:36:34am |
re: #318 NJDhockeyfan
Google “Southern Strategy”
Or how about all that antigay BS coming out of your party.
Antiwomen BS?
Antiscience BS?
Sounds like you’d like to deflect from that.
Can’t blame ya, I suppose.
;)
And fuck racists Dems.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:36:58am |
re: #318 NJDhockeyfan
I have bashed every nasty racist regardless of which political side they are on.
So?
We’re still waiting on the antigay sections in the D platform.
Would you like me to remind you about the bigotry written into the R one, or shall I refrain.
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lawhawk Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:37:00am |
re: #277 iossarian
It would all depend on whose funds were used and whether he used campaign funds (which is the mess that Edwards now faces).
Weiner acted stupidly (that sounds pretty good when using Marko Ramius/Sean Connery’s inflection). Stupid doesn’t mean illegal.
That could change if we learn that those he texted/sexted were underage, or were somehow in violation of House ethics guidelines.
Pelosi calling for an ethics investigation is meant to give political cover to the Democrats running up to the 2012 elections. She figures that by holding the ethics hearings/investigation quickly they can move this off the plate well ahead of the elections.
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:37:18am |
re: #317 Killgore Trout
HArper’s Ferry is very cool. I went to college near there. If you can arrange to be there in the evening they do a guided ghost tour that’s kind of fun.
Likely to be an early afternoon run through. The ghost tour things are generally fun - I went on one in Gettysburg a few years back. Excellent theatrics and storytelling that creeped out a few friends of mine.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:37:25am |
re: #322 oaktree
My opinion is that the comments are not clueless, but opting to pot-stir.
The clueless can also operate a ladle!
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:37:33am |
re: #316 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
1980. And?
He ran for Congress last year.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:37:49am |
re: #326 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
So?
We’re still waiting on the antigay sections in the D platform.
Dude, NJD is a fucking pussy, he’s not gonna spill with it
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:38:06am |
re: #330 NJDhockeyfan
Answer the question please. GOP policy more anti-gay than Democratic policy, yes or no?
Or is that a “gotcha” question?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:38:37am |
I seriously am going to enjoy watching this election season like none I have ever witnessed, what a riot it will be
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Varek Raith Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:39:54am |
re: #333 WindUpBird
I seriously am going to enjoy watching this election season like none I have ever witnessed, what a riot it will be
Wieners!
/
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:39:57am |
re: #330 NJDhockeyfan
Answer the question please. GOP policy more anti-gay than Democratic policy, yes or no?
Or is that a “gotcha” question?
Answer the question please. GOP policy more anti-gay than Democratic policy, yes or no?
Or is that a “gotcha” question?
Answer the question please. GOP policy more anti-gay than Democratic policy, yes or no?
Or is that a “gotcha” question?
Answer the question please. GOP policy more anti-gay than Democratic policy, yes or no?
Or is that a “gotcha” question?
Answer the question please. GOP policy more anti-gay than Democratic policy, yes or no?
Or is that a “gotcha” question?
Answer the question please. GOP policy more anti-gay than Democratic policy, yes or no?
Or is that a “gotcha” question?
^__^
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ProBosniaLiberal Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:40:09am |
Interesting picture I found on a Libyan Unrest site. From the 70’s.
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:40:28am |
When a Republican politician tries to go to sleep he doesn’t count sheep he counts gay men.
//
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:40:44am |
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Varek Raith Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:41:08am |
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laZardo Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:41:23am |
re: #331 WindUpBird
Dude, NJD is a fucking pussy, he’s not gonna spill with it
I got ruthlessly downdinged for wanting to fire up the grill. I don’t ever regret doing so though.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:42:24am |
re: #318 NJDhockeyfan
I have bashed every nasty racist
Name any current ones in the D party.
No, dead ones and ex-ones don’t count as current.
Meanwhile, Haley Barbor (R - KKK-lite) publicly defended the White Citizens Councils not even 6 mos ago. He tried to walk it back, but he’s still got White Citizen Councils segregation academies named for him.
He shows up to events put on by their current incarnation the Council of Conservative Citizens.
Sorry, the Republican party can cry party of lincoln all they want, they cannot escape their very public present.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:42:26am |
re: #337 Gus 802
When a Republican politician tries to go to sleep he doesn’t count sheep he counts gay men.
//
Closet cases, always haunted, always hunted, in their wickedest nightmares by poncy fancy fops that seem to shift shape from moment to moment
“Yoo-hoo, Haley Barbour! Come outta church, ya big roly poly cupcake!”
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lawhawk Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:42:39am |
re: #293 oaktree
Fort William Henry in Baltimore?
DC area monuments, Arlington?
Spotsylvania battlefield
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:43:05am |
re: #340 laZardo
I got ruthlessly downdinged for wanting to fire up the grill. I don’t ever regret doing so though.
I’ll repeat it!
It’s only a matter of time. :)
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lawhawk Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:43:34am |
re: #343 lawhawk
Ooops… confused Fort William Henry in Lake George NY with Fort McHenry in Baltimore.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:43:57am |
re: #335 WindUpBird
Answer the question please. GOP policy more anti-gay than Democratic policy, yes or no?Or is that a “gotcha” question?
Answer the question please. GOP policy more anti-gay than Democratic policy, yes or no?
Or is that a “gotcha” question?
Answer the question please. GOP policy more anti-gay than Democratic policy, yes or no?
Or is that a “gotcha” question?
Answer the question please. GOP policy more anti-gay than Democratic policy, yes or no?
Or is that a “gotcha” question?
Answer the question please. GOP policy more anti-gay than Democratic policy, yes or no?
Or is that a “gotcha” question?
Answer the question please. GOP policy more anti-gay than Democratic policy, yes or no?
Or is that a “gotcha” question?
^__^
What up with the constant gay questions? I guess most the GOP doesn’t support gay marriage, just like our current president. What else would you like to know?
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Kronocide Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:44:00am |
re: #340 laZardo
I got ruthlessly downdinged for wanting to fire up the grill. I don’t ever regret doing so though.
At least DF will state what he really thinks and not beat around the bush with cutesy posts and one liners and a severe bias posting dirt about Dems from winger echo chambers.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:45:05am |
re: #337 Gus 802
When a Republican politician tries to go to sleep he doesn’t count sheep he counts gay men.
//
and really, nobody is more the enemy of free and out LGBTQ than the conservative closet case. Because they want revenge, but on their own desires. And because that’s not possible, they want revenge on everyone that has what they can’t: love.
Put those people in power, you have yourself real evil
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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:45:33am |
re: #346 NJDhockeyfan
What up with the constant gay questions? I guess most the GOP doesn’t support gay marriage, just like our current president. What else would you like to know?
Not just “they don’t support it”, they want to ban it outright, and many of them would be happy to criminalize it..
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:46:05am |
re: #346 NJDhockeyfan
haha you really will never answer the question, will you :)
Just another chickenshit Republican, at least Dark Falcon is honest!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:46:08am |
re: #330 NJDhockeyfan
He ran as a D in 1980, and did not even make it on to the ballot as anything last year.
And?
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Varek Raith Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:46:13am |
The GOP only cares about abortion this cycle.
JOBS!
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:46:54am |
re: #346 NJDhockeyfan
What up with the constant gay questions? I guess most the GOP doesn’t support gay marriage, just like our current president. What else would you like to know?
Are you talking about the Democratic president who recently signed the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell”? The repeal of which was voted through the House on a 250-175 vote?
Do you want me to tell you who the 175 against were?
You are in some serious denial, dude.
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:47:05am |
My wireless connection keeps petering out. I blame gay marriage. That’s why I’m voting Republican next year.
//
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:47:11am |
re: #331 WindUpBird
Dude, NJD is a fucking pussy, he’s not gonna spill with it
Well yeah, because he can’t. I do enjoy rubbing their nose in it, though. Personal flaw :/
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:47:22am |
re: #347 BigPapa
At least DF will state what he really thinks and not beat around the bush with cutesy posts and one liners and a severe bias posting dirt about Dems from winger echo chambers.
Huffing that Limbaugh air, that’ll make your balls shrink
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Varek Raith Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:47:26am |
New weather satellites to replace the aging and dying ones?
GOP is against it.
Poison control centers?
You guessed it.
The EPA?
You guessed it.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:47:48am |
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:48:09am |
You know what’s been causing all of those super tornadoes this year?
Gay marriage.
//
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:49:07am |
re: #361 Gus 802
You know what’s been causing all of those super tornadoes this year?
Gay marriage.
//
Look over there! Jesus! The Military! Weiner’s Weiner! Quick! Salute something! Be patriotic! Anything!
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:49:14am |
re: #355 iossarian
Are you talking about the Democratic president who recently signed the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell”? The repeal of which was voted through the House on a 250-175 vote?
Do you want me to tell you who the 175 against were?
You are in some serious denial, dude.
Yeah, the same guy who said “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage.” That guy.
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:49:33am |
re: #359 Varek Raith
New weather satellites to replace the aging and dying ones?
GOP is against it.
Poison control centers?
You guessed it.
The EPA?
You guessed it.
Medicaid to support the poor and provide them with healthcare?
Medicare that actually covers the cost of healthcare for the elderly?
Access to a safe and legal abortion?
If you guessed GOP against all three, you win.
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:50:34am |
re: #362 WindUpBird
Look over there! Jesus! The Military! Weiner’s Weiner! Quick! Salute something! Be patriotic! Anything!
And if you disagree with me you’re unpatriotic!
//
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:50:47am |
re: #363 NJDhockeyfan
I believe you mean this guy.
President Obama’s assertion that the federal ban on same sex-marriage is unconstitutional has expanded the political debate on legal rights for gay Americans.
The one who asserted it’s unconstitutional to ban gay marriage.
As opposed to the Republicans, who want an amendment to ban gay marriage.
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Varek Raith Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:50:48am |
re: #363 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah, the same guy who said “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage.” That guy.
Yep.
Obama and his party pushed through State and Federal Constitutional amendments to ban gay marriage.
Wait.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:50:58am |
re: #363 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah, the same guy who said “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage.” That guy.
You know we’re all just enjoying your squirming immensely, right? :D
| 369 |
Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:51:21am |
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:51:30am |
re: #363 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah, the same guy who said “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage.” That guy.
Let me ask you again: if you wanted to reduce the discrimination faced by gay people, do you think you would do better to vote GOP, or Democratic?
If you say “I don’t think it makes a difference”, how do you reconcile with that view with the fact that it took Democratic control of the House, the Senate and the Presidency to repeal Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:51:48am |
re: #346 NJDhockeyfan
What up with the constant gay questions? I guess most the GOP doesn’t support gay marriage, just like our current president. What else would you like to know?
Weasel wordage. There has never been a pro-gay marriage presidential candidate from any party, and 2008 was no exception.
Which party is gunning to overturn the DADT repeal?
Which party puts antigay measures on state and local ballots to motivate their bigoted constituents to the polls?
Which party appeals to those who believe straights should have more rights than gays?
I can find antigay language and policy in the R party platform. Find it in the Democratic platform.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:52:07am |
You don’t have to love the Democrats and think that they’re all wonderful to admit the simple, obvious fact that a large majority of GOP politicians are anti-gay. It’s a party plank, literally.
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Kronocide Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:52:35am |
re: #358 WindUpBird
Huffing that Limbaugh air, that’ll make your balls shrink
Limbaugh affects both the balls and the bwains.
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:52:44am |
re: #372 Obdicut
You don’t have to love the Democrats and think that they’re all wonderful to admit the simple, obvious fact that a large majority of GOP politicians are anti-gay. It’s a party plank, literally.
It takes guts to accept that a party you support is bigoted, even if it’s in a way you don’t think is important.
| 375 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:53:05am |
re: #370 iossarian
Let me ask you again: if you wanted to reduce the discrimination faced by gay people, do you think you would do better to vote GOP, or Democratic?
If you say “I don’t think it makes a difference”, how do you reconcile with that view with the fact that it took Democratic control of the House, the Senate and the Presidency to repeal Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell?
| 376 |
Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:53:30am |
re: #363 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah, the same guy who said “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage.” That guy.
I am not in favor of abortion, but I do not think it should be banned.
Ditto for Gay marriage.
The GOP is not only against both, ut thinks that both should be banned.
That is a bit of a nuance, and nuance is not part of the political debate in this country, it is all a talking-points-only slapdown shouting match.
| 377 |
lawhawk Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:53:40am |
re: #373 BigPapa
Limbaugh affects both the balls and the bwains.
Was that said in your best Lili von Shtupp voice?
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:53:41am |
re: #364 iossarian
Medicaid to support the poor and provide them with healthcare?
Medicare that actually covers the cost of healthcare for the elderly?
Access to a safe and legal abortion pregnancy, birth control, breast cancer screening?If you guessed GOP against all three, you win.
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blueraven Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:53:56am |
re: #363 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah, the same guy who said “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage.” That guy.
There is a difference between personal belief and actively campaigning to ban gay marriage. I think you know that. The president is for gay rights, albeit more on the civil union side than of marriage.
Strange for such a far left, secular socialist.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:53:59am |
re: #372 Obdicut
You don’t have to love the Democrats and think that they’re all wonderful to admit the simple, obvious fact that a large majority of GOP politicians are anti-gay. It’s a party plank, literally.
including multiple presidential candidates who are viciously anti-gay!
| 381 |
Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:54:13am |
re: #345 lawhawk
Ooops… confused Fort William Henry in Lake George NY with Fort McHenry in Baltimore.
That’s OK. I’ve been to both and knew what you meant. :)
Got most of the immediate DC sites covered from living in Alexandria for two years. And I’ve been to Aberdeen Proving Grounds as well (which is clear from my photobucket link.)
Chancellorsville/Spotssylvania/Fredericksburg is a possibility. Though I think that would be better served by having more time to stop and walk around (or potentially bring a bike and use that.)
| 382 |
laZardo Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:54:21am |
Gonna watch the Nintendo E3 conference and head to bed.
Hope to hear of a flouncing in the morning.
Nighty.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:54:36am |
re: #376 ralphieboy
sorta like how I’m not in favor of holocaust denial, but I don’t think it should be banned ;-)
(I kid I kid)
| 384 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:56:09am |
re: #379 blueraven
There is a difference between personal belief and actively campaigning to ban gay marriage. I think you know that. The president is for gay rights, albeit more on the civil union side than of marriage.
Strange for such a far left, secular socialist.
I’m totally happy with civil unions
it’s all down to civil rights, and there’s only one party in the US who is unambiguously working towards them for all people
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:56:26am |
re: #370 iossarian
Let me ask you again: if you wanted to reduce the discrimination faced by gay people, do you think you would do better to vote GOP, or Democratic?
If you say “I don’t think it makes a difference”, how do you reconcile with that view with the fact that it took Democratic control of the House, the Senate and the Presidency to repeal Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell?
I don’t pick a choice on who to vote for from one issue. I look to see what the candidates stand for on all the issues and make my judgement then.
| 386 |
Kronocide Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:56:28am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:56:41am |
re: #381 oaktree
is there really a place called “Spotssylvania”?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:56:46am |
re: #363 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah, the same guy who said “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage.” That guy.
You mean the guy whose DOJ will no longer pursue DOMA cases?
The guy who pushed for DADT repeal, and got it?
The guy who made an “it gets better” video, with out gay WH staffers doing the same?
Him?
| 389 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:57:01am |
re: #385 NJDhockeyfan
I don’t pick a choice on who to vote for from one issue. I look to see what the candidates stand for on all the issues and make my judgement then.
translation: i got mine!
| 390 |
Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:57:35am |
re: #383 WindUpBird
sorta like how I’m not in favor of holocaust denial, but I don’t think it should be banned ;-)
(I kid I kid)
No, a valid point. I personally have no problem with Holocaust denial. It is just such a hot-button issue because it is seen to go hand-in-hand with calls to exterminate the Jews, which I certainly do not support.
| 391 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:57:56am |
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:57:58am |
Yep. That’s why American forces landed on Normandy 67 years ago yesterday. To ban gay marriage.
//
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:58:11am |
re: #387 WindUpBird
is there really a place called “Spotssylvania”?
One “s”. (Spotsylvania) Location of a battle in the US Civil War.
And vampire dogs of course… ;)
| 394 |
iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:58:14am |
re: #385 NJDhockeyfan
I don’t pick a choice on who to vote for from one issue. I look to see what the candidates stand for on all the issues and make my judgement then.
So you accept that, in general, GOP candidates are more likely to be anti-gay than Democratic candidates? It just isn’t that important to you, compared with other issues*?
* AKA the Dark Falcon defense.
| 396 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:58:35am |
re: #379 blueraven
There is a difference between personal belief and actively campaigning to ban gay marriage. I think you know that. The president is for gay rights, albeit more on the civil union side than of marriage.
Strange for such a far left, secular socialist.
It’s the shariah law Kenyan anti-colonial Muslim in him.
| 397 |
Varek Raith Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:59:09am |
re: #387 WindUpBird
is there really a place called “Spotssylvania”?
Yes.
It’s a county south of me.
And it’s one ‘s’
:)
| 398 |
Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:59:19am |
re: #387 WindUpBird
is there really a place called “Spotssylvania”?
Are you confusing it with Pottsylvania, the home of Fearless Leader, Boris Badinov and Natasha Fatale?
| 399 |
ProBosniaLiberal Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:59:42am |
RAF is going after Qaddafi’s enforcers:
UKMilOps Maj Gen Nick Pope
RAF Tornado and Typhoon aircraft have mounted attacks on one of Colonel Qadhafi’s secret police headquarters in the heart of Tripoli. #Libya
I hope I get a birthday present regarding this.
| 400 |
researchok Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:00:32am |
re: #346 NJDhockeyfan
What up with the constant gay questions? I guess most the GOP doesn’t support gay marriage, just like our current president. What else would you like to know?
It’s about attitude, no an agenda. Would you be comfortable with a leadership that was biased?
It not so much about gays as it is about bias.
Of course, not all GOP elected officials are biased. That said, there is a clear pattern of pandering tp groups who are biased for both financial and political game.
I am right of center but in no way would tolerate or support a party that were in any way intolerant.
This has nothing to do with differing pol;itical ideologies or political views. That kind of head butting is good and healthy for a democracy.
Institutionalized intolerance cannot be dignified and made a legitimate topic of exchange.
You want to beat up WUB ons government spending or health care funding? Have at it! Hell, I’ll join that party!
Gay rights however, like any other rights, are not subject to negotiation.
| 401 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:01:34am |
re: #385 NJDhockeyfan
I don’t pick a choice on who to vote for from one issue. I look to see what the candidates stand for on all the issues and make my judgement then.
Irrelevant. Find the antigay portions of the D platform, like what are part of the R platform.
Show me the liberal or Democratic equivalent of anti-CPAC boycotts, just because those Roy Cohn-admiring GOProud creeps darkened the door.
| 402 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:02:04am |
re: #391 NJDhockeyfan
You got your what?
Oh, not me, sir! You! Because you’re the straight white guy with the marriage and the kids, right?
Nice house…
nice paycheck…
nice marriage…
oh yeah! marriage! That thing!
so yeha. meaning, you the privileged straight white guy got his civil rights, fuck the fags :)
Right?
| 403 |
NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:02:48am |
re: #395 WindUpBird
the thing that makes you a pussy is that you won’t admit the Republicans are anti gay, BTW.
I don’t think they all are just like I don’t think all Dems are just because Tim Kaine is. Don’t be such a jerk.
| 404 |
ReamWorks SKG Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:02:55am |
1. Barack Obama dumped his pro-gay-Marriage minister, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, whose Church, The Trinity UCC officiates same-sex-marriages, for Rick Warren, who goes to Uganda to advocate death-penalty legislation for homosexuality.
2. Two days before the election, I got a robo-call featuring Barack Obama’s voice saying “Marriage is between a man and a woman” urging me to vote YES on Proposition 8.
I woudn’t call Barack Obama “pro-gay marriage.” While there are some Democrats who are (like Rep. Weiner), there are also some republicans (Giuliani, Schwarzenegger)
| 405 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:03:26am |
re: #401 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Irrelevant. Find the antigay portions of the D platform, like what are part of the R platform.
Show me the liberal or Democratic equivalent of anti-CPAC boycotts, just because those Roy Cohn-admiring GOProud creeps darkened the door.
Dude, NJD doesn’t know WHO ROY COHN IS, hahaha
| 406 |
Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:03:31am |
Damn spinning wheel on my end. It’s my wireless connection no doubt. Maybe I should uncheck auto-update.
| 407 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:03:52am |
re: #403 NJDhockeyfan
I don’t think they all are just like I don’t think all Dems are just because Tim Kaine is. Don’t be such a jerk.
you STILL WON’T ADMIT IT lol
and the comedy continues
| 408 |
prairiefire Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:05:01am |
Sarah Palin in cartoon of the day:[Link: politicalwire.com…]
| 409 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:05:14am |
re: #384 WindUpBird
I’m totally happy with civil unions
it’s all down to civil rights, and there’s only one party in the US who is unambiguously working towards them for all people
It’s one of the reasons that party is resented by so many Republicans.
All they have is weak b.s. like “party of lincoln” and pointing and crying about Robert Byrd.
There is NOTHING they can point to that extends equal rights to more people, unless one wants to count HW signing the Americans With Disabilities Act 20 years ago.
| 410 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:05:18am |
re: #404 reuven
oh do we have ourselves another false-equivalence fool?
Man, they just come outta nowhere, trying to tell me my business, hahaha
| 411 |
iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:05:36am |
re: #403 NJDhockeyfan
I don’t think they all are just like I don’t think all Dems are just because Tim Kaine is. Don’t be such a jerk.
Do you think that Republican control of the House, Senate and Presidency would advance, or reduce, the rights of gay people?
If you think advance (or not reduce) what evidence do you have to support that view?
| 412 |
Varek Raith Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:06:04am |
| 413 |
ReamWorks SKG Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:06:15am |
I should add I am among one of the 12,000 people in California who remain legally same-sex married in California.
And I didn’t vote for Barack Obama. (Though, admittedly, I might have if I lived in Florida or a state where my one vote may have made a difference!)
| 414 |
Guanxi88 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:06:24am |
Siva, Vishnu, and Krisna! Looks like I walked in on a full-fledged steel-cage death match!
And how’s it going, you poor saps who lack the good sense or good luck to live in the Lone Star State? Those of you who are here already, I know you’re doing fine.
| 415 |
FemNaziBitch Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:07:05am |
Morning all!
46 years ago today, The Supreme Court decided that Contraception was legal for Married people.
Can you think of any way to celebrate???
| 416 |
Guanxi88 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:07:22am |
re: #415 ggt
Morning all!
46 years ago today, The Supreme Court decided that Contraception was legal for Married people.
Can you think of any way to celebrate???
Not have kids?
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researchok Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:07:31am |
re: #410 WindUpBird
oh do we have ourselves another false-equivalence fool?
Man, they just come outta nowhere, trying to tell me my business, hahaha
Provocateur
/
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:07:47am |
re: #404 reuven
These are good points, but it ignores the plain fact that gay rights are basically advanced by Democratic politicians in general, and reduced by Republican politicians in general.
Pointing out individual stances is really a textbook case of not seeing the wood for the trees.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:08:11am |
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Varek Raith Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:08:28am |
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Guanxi88 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:09:03am |
re: #420 ggt
I was thinking more on the lines of enjoying “safe” sex.
No such thing - if anything, that particular act (and any of its many variants) leaves one open to sneak attack.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:09:17am |
re: #404 reuven
seriously, how someone who comments on a political blog can be so weapons-grade naive on the nature of politics, I’ll never know
Please, by all means, tell me how the GOP (elected officials who are staying in office please!) is looking out for my best interests as LGBTQ. I cannot WAIT to watch the conveyor belt of horseshit start up :)
*sits in director’s chair, cracks a beer*
ACTION!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:09:20am |
re: #404 reuven
1. Barack Obama dumped his pro-gay-Marriage minister, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, whose Church, The Trinity UCC officiates same-sex-marriages, for Rick Warren, who goes to Uganda to advocate death-penalty legislation for homosexuality.
2. Two days before the election, I got a robo-call featuring Barack Obama’s voice saying “Marriage is between a man and a woman” urging me to vote YES on Proposition 8.
I woudn’t call Barack Obama “pro-gay marriage.” While there are some Democrats who are (like Rep. Weiner), there are also some republicans (Giuliani, Schwarzenegger)
There were two choices in 2008 - one choice would have gays still subject to discrimination at every level - federal/military, state, local, etc.
The other is an administration has pushed for ending anti-gay discriminatory laws at the federal/military level and has refused to prosecute DOMA cases.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:09:24am |
re: #422 ProLifeLiberal
I can, but am not married yet. :P
That’s ok. In 1972 the Court decided you could legally have safe sex as well.
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Guanxi88 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:09:49am |
re: #421 Varek Raith
Dammit!
I was about to say that!
Jerk.
/
Sorry, I’m just a bit more immature, I’m afraid.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:10:07am |
re: #413 reuven
I should add I am among one of the 12,000 people in California who remain legally same-sex married in California.
And I didn’t vote for Barack Obama. (Though, admittedly, I might have if I lived in Florida or a state where my one vote may have made a difference!)
Still waiting for YOU to tell ME how the GOP is looking out for my interests as a queer.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:10:16am |
re: #405 WindUpBird
Dude, NJD doesn’t know WHO ROY COHN IS, hahaha
If he has access to the internet and google, he now has the opportunity to find out.
I don’t expect that, though. Too many conservatives think looking up stuff is for the f@#s.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:10:29am |
re: #427 Guanxi88
Sorry, I’m just a bit more immature, I’m afraid.
difference between the undead and the merely dead?
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ReamWorks SKG Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:10:45am |
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Varek Raith Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:10:58am |
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Guanxi88 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:10:59am |
re: #430 ggt
difference between the undead and the merely dead?
Just a matter of timing, like so much else in life.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:11:09am |
re: #425 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
There were two choices in 2008 - one choice would have gays still subject to discrimination at every level - federal/military, state, local, etc.
The other is an administration has pushed for ending anti-gay discriminatory laws at the federal/military level and has refused to prosecute DOMA cases.
Sometimes, you just weep for the naivete :D
At least the queer conservatives I know vote third party! One voted Ron Paul, hahaha, but he’s about as off the grid as it gets
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:11:36am |
re: #428 WindUpBird
Still waiting for YOU to tell ME how the GOP is looking out for my interests as a queer.
He’s not claiming they do.
I, too, think it was crappy of Obama to reach out to Warren. sure, he was trying to build bridges, but that one has trolls under it.
However, since those early days, he’s swung around to strongly pro-gay, and I”m very glad for it.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:11:48am |
re: #431 reuven
By keeping your taxes lower, you have more freedom!
/
but seriously
You can’t be laying a guy who’s not in office, and and a lame duck, as examples of the GOP protecting the rights of gays.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:12:07am |
re: #413 reuven
I should add I am among one of the 12,000 people in California who remain legally same-sex married in California.
And I didn’t vote for Barack Obama. (Though, admittedly, I might have if I lived in Florida or a state where my one vote may have made a difference!)
Prop 8 goes back to court next week. Will be interesting to see if cameras are allowed in.
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Varek Raith Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:12:12am |
re: #435 Obdicut
He’s not claiming they do.
I, too, think it was crappy of Obama to reach out to Warren. sure, he was trying to build bridges, but that one has trolls under it.
However, since those early days, he’s swung around to strongly pro-gay, and I”m very glad for it.
Shameless pandering, in that case.
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Varek Raith Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:12:34am |
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:13:03am |
Bexar Democrats’ leader likens foes to insects
Calling his detractors worms, jerks, morons, idiots and liars, Bexar County Democratic Chairman Dan Ramos said Thursday that he’d resign “when hell freezes over” despite demands he quit immediately due to his harsh words about fellow Democrats.
Denying allegations that he has disparaged gay party members and others, Ramos cast himself as an old friend of minorities. But he also compared gay Democrats to insects, called several local elected Democrats “yo-yos,” and found a common denominator among the Texas Stonewall Democratic Caucus, the tea party and the Nazi party.
The Stonewall Democrats are the Texas Democratic Party’s official lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender caucus.
“They all have these weird ideas about how our society can function better,” Ramos said.
Singling out the Stonewall Democrats, Ramos said “they have infiltrated the Bexar County party, much like termites infiltrate your house. They’re trying to destroy what has been around for a long time,” he said.
They must have made a mistake. It says this idiot is a Democratic Chairman.
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ReamWorks SKG Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:13:19am |
re: #435 Obdicut
I think it was also crappy of him to dump Rev. Wright. Talk about someone being maligned by out-of-context quotes! Rev. Wright got a raw deal.
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Guanxi88 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:13:22am |
re: #439 Varek Raith
Shameless pandering, in that case.
Eh, you’ll get used to it. They do that crap to us Yids all the time. Everybody’s pro-Israel and wearing the yarmulke, and then, us they never heard of.
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:13:49am |
re: #441 NJDhockeyfan
Bexar Democrats’ leader likens foes to insects
They must have made a mistake. It says this idiot is a Democratic Chairman.
NO NOT BEXAR COUNTY THAT CRADLE OF DEMOCRATIC POLICY!!!
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Varek Raith Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:14:10am |
re: #443 Guanxi88
Eh, you’ll get used to it. They do that crap to us Yids all the time. Everybody’s pro-Israel and wearing the yarmulke, and then, us they never heard of.
I’m pro who’s ever in the crowd at this particular moment!
/
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:14:38am |
re: #441 NJDhockeyfan
Bexar Democrats’ leader likens foes to insects
They must have made a mistake. It says this idiot is a Democratic Chairman.
The guy being called on to resign by other Democrats?
Seriously, again:
You don’t have to love the Democrats and think that they’re all wonderful to admit the simple, obvious fact that a large majority of GOP politicians are anti-gay. It’s a party plank, literally.
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Kronocide Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:14:43am |
re: #441 NJDhockeyfan
WTF? Digging dirt on Dems seems to be safety blanket.
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Guanxi88 Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:14:57am |
re: #444 iossarian
NO NOT BEXAR COUNTY THAT CRADLE OF DEMOCRATIC POLICY!!!
Hey, now! Bexar County is a damned fine place, politics aside. Mexican/Texican ruling class, thriving economy, and a damned fine place to get falling-down drunk.
Ramos seems like a bit of a nutball - and that’s about as far as it seems to go.
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Varek Raith Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:15:03am |
re: #444 iossarian
NO NOT BEXAR COUNTY THAT CRADLE OF DEMOCRATIC POLICY!!!
In the heart of Liberal Texas???
Lol
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:15:13am |
re: #434 WindUpBird
Sometimes, you just weep for the naivete :D
At least the queer conservatives I know vote third party! One voted Ron Paul, hahaha, but he’s about as off the grid as it gets
The queer conservatives I’ve known are just as bigoted as many of their straight counterparts. People should be over the existence of people like GOProud and Log Cabin Rs. Though, the latter do deserve their props for finally making themselves useful as re: DADT.
Breitbart sits on the board of GOProud, which tells us everything we need to know about them lol
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:15:39am |
re: #442 reuven
I think it was also crappy of him to dump Rev. Wright. Talk about someone being maligned by out-of-context quotes! Rev. Wright got a raw deal.
Such is the sharp end of politics.
Seriously, I respect your voting decision based on a particular issue, and also the fact that you would reconsider that decision based on other facts (such as your state’s voting profile).
Such individual decisions go to the heart of democracy. Politicians have to be held accountable.
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ReamWorks SKG Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:15:50am |
re: #450 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Breitbart is gay? I never knew!
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lawhawk Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:16:09am |
Looks like Saleh’s lucky to be alive at all - his injuries were far more serious than previously thought with internal brain bleeding; burns over 40% of his body, collapsed lung, and other injuries.
And as bad as his condition is, his loyalists aren’t giving up control.
On Monday, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton called for an “immediate transition” in Yemen. She said the country needs a process that “everyone knows is going to lead to the sort of economic and political reforms that they are seeking.”A return by Saleh would likely spark new, intensified fighting between his forces and opposition tribesmen determined to topple him. Both sides’ fighters are deployed in the streets of the capital, and a cease-fire brokered by Saudi Arabia only a day earlier was already starting to fray.
Clashes escalated around the country Tuesday, signaling no respite to the violence in the poor Arab nation shaken by months of unrest.
Children killed
Yemen’s Defense Ministry said government troops have killed 30 Islamic militants in the troubled southern province of Abyan. A brief statement said the militants were killed Monday night and Tuesday, but gave no other details.Military officials and witnesses say warplanes bombed areas in the province known to be under the control of the militants, but it’s not immediately clear whether the airstrikes led to the death of the 30 militants.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:16:30am |
re: #446 Obdicut
The guy being called on to resign by other Democrats?
Seriously, again:
You don’t have to love the Democrats and think that they’re all wonderful to admit the simple, obvious fact that a large majority of GOP politicians are anti-gay. It’s a party plank, literally.
I think it’s that the Gay community doesn’t contribute enough money to the Republicans. GOP is jealous. Really, I’m beginning to think the only way to take the Party back to sanity is to buy it out from under the theocrats.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:17:08am |
re: #442 reuven
I think it was also crappy of him to dump Rev. Wright. Talk about someone being maligned by out-of-context quotes! Rev. Wright got a raw deal.
I disagree. Rev Wright marginalized himself with whackodoodle comments about AIDS, Jewish people, and trying to claim an attack on him was an attack on the Black Church.
Lol it’s like, dude you are a minister in one of the whitest denominations in the country, who ya foolin.
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BongCrodny Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:17:30am |
re: #398 ralphieboy
Are you confusing it with Pottsylvania, the home of Fearless Leader, Boris Badinov and Natasha Fatale?
Bullwinkle upding.
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:17:35am |
re: #444 iossarian
NO NOT BEXAR COUNTY THAT CRADLE OF DEMOCRATIC POLICY!!!
He must be a GOP infiltrator. Democrats would never say something like that.
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Buck Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:17:49am |
re: #370 iossarian
…..how do you reconcile with that view with the fact that it took Democratic control of the House, the Senate and the Presidency to repeal Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell?
I am curious…. are you saying that repealing DADT is a good thing? And if so, then I would ask was it a Democrat or Republican administration that signed it into law?
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NJDhockeyfan Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:17:53am |
re: #447 BigPapa
WTF? Digging dirt on Dems seems to be safety blanket.
Ignoring them seems to be a safe blanket for the left.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:18:09am |
re: #435 Obdicut
He’s not claiming they do.
I, too, think it was crappy of Obama to reach out to Warren. sure, he was trying to build bridges, but that one has trolls under it.
However, since those early days, he’s swung around to strongly pro-gay, and I”m very glad for it.
Oh, i think Warren is a creep, but he’s a pied piper. That’s politics in America, megachurchies have a lot of power. But pretending his discarding of Wright had anything to do with gays, is silly bordering on insulting.
I expected Obama to be cautiously pro-gay, just like the Democratic party, which is neutral-to-enthusiastically-pro-gay, depending on region. And he is!
I look at results: the results of dems in office on average is more gay rights. The results of Republicans in office is less gay rights, and ever worse: vicious bigoted grandstanding and hatred that is probably getting queer kids bashed in high schools in rural towns every day.
The latter is REALLY why I hate the GOP these days. Every stupid thing that comes out of a Bachmann or a Barbour or these megachurchies is fed through the noise machine, fed through talk radio, fed through right wing churches, translating into real hatred against real people. Real suicides, real runaways.
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:18:21am |
re: #457 NJDhockeyfan
He must be a GOP infiltrator. Democrats would never say something like that.
You really are that simple, aren’t you.
Anyway, got to run for a while. Don’t let reality intrude any further!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:18:55am |
re: #441 NJDhockeyfan
and the comedy train keeps choo-chooing along
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:18:59am |
re: #458 Buck
I am curious… are you saying that repealing DADT is a good thing? And if so, then I would ask was it a Democrat or Republican administration that signed it into law?
When it was signed into law, it was a step forward from the former policy of “Ask, and reject”.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:19:08am |
re: #452 reuven
Breitbart is gay? I never knew!
I don’t know if he’s gay, but yeah he has been on the board of GOProud since early this year. He came on just about the time Tammy Bruce quit.
I would say, he is definitely a queen. But who knows who he sleeps with.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:19:30am |
re: #458 Buck
Oh look, it’s uncle buck! hahaha hi uncle buck
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:19:32am |
re: #458 Buck
I am curious… are you saying that repealing DADT is a good thing? And if so, then I would ask was it a Democrat or Republican administration that signed it into law?
It’s called progress, Buck, a notion with which you are admittedly unfamiliar.
BBL.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:19:48am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:19:54am |
re: #458 Buck
I am curious… are you saying that repealing DADT is a good thing? And if so, then I would ask was it a Democrat or Republican administration that signed it into law?
tell me more how the GOP is looking out for me, uncle buck!
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Gus Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:20:00am |
re: #459 NJDhockeyfan
Ignoring them seems to be a safe blanket for the left.
Unlike Republicans (ergo the right) who are always quick to speak up whenever their members stray off the beaten path. Yep, blind party loyalty only applies to the left. And there’s no such thing as Reagan’s “11th Commandment”.
//
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:20:00am |
re: #464 Obdicut
When it was signed into law, it was a step forward from the former policy of “Ask, and reject”.
Exactly. People can be so stupid when they need to be.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:21:41am |
re: #454 ggt
I think it’s that the Gay community doesn’t contribute enough money to the Republicans.
Yeah but why should we?
It’s more than just money - a lot of gays cannot afford to be single issue on just LGBT stuff. Most aren’t rich and living in West Hollywood or high on the hill in the Castro. There are additional things.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:23:19am |
re: #458 Buck
I am curious… are you saying that repealing DADT is a good thing? And if so, then I would ask was it a Democrat or Republican administration that signed it into law?
DADT was actually an improvement over the conservative alternative, which was just flat out getting kicked out. Clinton had intended to overturn the antigay ban and ended up with DADT as the best he could get, thanks to social cons.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:23:24am |
re: #473 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Yeah but why should we?
It’s more than just money - a lot of gays cannot afford to be single issue on just LGBT stuff. Most aren’t rich and living in West Hollywood or high on the hill in the Castro. There are additional things.
Money talks. That seems to be the only way to make change in Washington. I’m not a master planner, I can only see trends. Money buys votes.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:25:20am |
re: #465 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I don’t know if he’s gay, but yeah he has been on the board of GOProud since early this year. He came on just about the time Tammy Bruce quit.
I would say, he is definitely a queen. But who knows who he sleeps with.
Breitbart is sort of the new Coulter, it’s stuntmanship, it’s a work, he’s got a gig, he’s got a schtick. Like pro-wrestling. The fact that AB is hanging out with Opie and Anthony, that tells ya. Same with Glenn Beck. Schtick.
Much like Pam Geller. None of these professional stunt-pundits and hate bloggers, believe their schtick, but they LOVE their schtick, because it’s making them famous. They get to act out, and everyone talks about them.
I understand this, because I have a schtick! But it’s an art schtick :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:27:58am |
re: #454 ggt
I think it’s that the Gay community doesn’t contribute enough money to the Republicans. GOP is jealous. Really, I’m beginning to think the only way to take the Party back to sanity is to buy it out from under the theocrats.
Yeah, well, they can ask someone else. I’m not voting for any Republican who isn’t local (a local pro-gay Republican in Portland? fine!) until the current bigot generation of them is dead and buried
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:28:06am |
re: #475 ggt
Money talks. That seems to be the only way to make change in Washington. I’m not a master planner, I can only see trends. Money buys votes.
That has been the tack of Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud, if only they can see how much money we have, they will like us.
When it comes to social issues, things don’t work that way. Both the Rs and Ds don’t try and court the coveted Black Vote because they think we’re loaded down with bucks, it’s totally symbolic in that case. That’s why I laugh when Rs try and scream party of lincoln/mlk was a republican at me, as if that will browbeat me into voting for the party of social conservatism and the Confederate flag. Jackoffs lol.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:28:17am |
re: #476 WindUpBird
Breitbart is sort of the new Coulter, it’s stuntmanship, it’s a work, he’s got a gig, he’s got a schtick. Like pro-wrestling. The fact that AB is hanging out with Opie and Anthony, that tells ya. Same with Glenn Beck. Schtick.
Much like Pam Geller. None of these professional stunt-pundits and hate bloggers, believe their schtick, but they LOVE their schtick, because it’s making them famous. They get to act out, and everyone talks about them.
I understand this, because I have a schtick! But it’s an art schtick :D
many updings for that!
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Buck Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:29:52am |
re: #476 WindUpBird
Breitbart is sort of the new Coulter, it’s stuntmanship, it’s a work, he’s got a gig, he’s got a schtick. Like pro-wrestling. The fact that AB is hanging out with Opie and Anthony, that tells ya. Same with Glenn Beck. Schtick……
Or he really does believe that the Far Left, and so called progressives have too much influence in the media, and that too often the news is slanted and biased against conservative views. And that he wants to use the internet and his brand of websites to try and get the “other side” of the story out.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:30:05am |
re: #478 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
That has been the tack of Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud, if only they can see how much money we have, they will like us.
When it comes to social issues, things don’t work that way. Both the Rs and Ds don’t try and court the coveted Black Vote because they think we’re loaded down with bucks, it’s totally symbolic in that case. That’s why I laugh when Rs try and scream party of lincoln/mlk was a republican at me, as if that will browbeat me into voting for the party of social conservatism and the Confederate flag. Jackoffs lol.
I’m thinking more like contribute a large sum, then reveal that a large amount of the politican’s support came from the Gay community—embarrass him into voting. Like I said, I’m not a master planner, I just know it’s worked before.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:30:26am |
re: #476 WindUpBird
Breitbart is sort of the new Coulter, it’s stuntmanship, it’s a work, he’s got a gig, he’s got a schtick. Like pro-wrestling. The fact that AB is hanging out with Opie and Anthony, that tells ya. Same with Glenn Beck. Schtick.
Much like Pam Geller. None of these professional stunt-pundits and hate bloggers, believe their schtick, but they LOVE their schtick, because it’s making them famous. They get to act out, and everyone talks about them.
I understand this, because I have a schtick! But it’s an art schtick :D
:D I know exactly what you mean about schtick. I talk about it all the time on my blog - I call it political showbiz. The people above, they cannot be trusted any farther than they can be thrown.
One person who I think is not schtick is Bachmann. I think she is truly, really like that. I’ve known a lot of people like her.
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FemNaziBitch Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:31:02am |
How about a new Amendment —Separation of Sex and State?
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:31:27am |
re: #480 Buck
Yes, it’s possible he’s genuinely deluded to the point that he’ll smear, lie, and defame innocent people in order to push his ideology.
I don’t know which is worse, sincere or insincere.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:32:20am |
re: #480 Buck
Or he really does believe that the Far Left, and so called progressives have too much influence in the media, and that too often the news is slanted and biased against conservative views. And that he wants to use the internet and his brand of websites to try and get the “other side” of the story out.
Doubtful. He reminds me of a younger David Brock, before his little Damascus Road moment. All slime, all the time.
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abolitionist Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:35:51am |
re: #141 Rightwingconspirator
This is odd-I have a strange hardware issue. My computer had an AGP video card. But device manager says it’s a PCI card. The BIOS sees a an AGP card. Now I went and bought a better AGP card from Diamond and the drivers will just not load at all. Not so they work anyway. Stuck in p&p mode, yuck.
You might try reviewing your BIOS settings related to video, and specifically, to AGP. Only after owning my desktop for several years did I discover that some of the more advanced BIOS options are accessible only by holding down a SHIFT key while making the menu selection. Sheesh.
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Buck Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:37:44am |
re: #484 Obdicut
Yes, it’s possible he’s genuinely deluded to the point that he’ll smear, lie, and defame innocent people in order to push his ideology.
I don’t know which is worse, sincere or insincere.
Yes, that is your impression. As if the far left MSM never pushes their ideology in that exact same way. In fact the Far left invented smears, lies, and defamation of innocent people.
OH but I am not allowed to point that out,,, MBF or Tu quoque!!!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:39:21am |
re: #481 ggt
I’m thinking more like contribute a large sum, then reveal that a large amount of the politican’s support came from the Gay community—embarrass him into voting. Like I said, I’m not a master planner, I just know it’s worked before.
Yeah it depends on what one is after. If you want to build a movement like what has been done with gay rights it can’t be done with buying votes, because the numbers won’t add up. Any disenfranchised minority, no matter how well off, can be simply outspent by a majority with an agenda.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:40:07am |
re: #488 Buck
Yes, that is your impression. As if the far left MSM never pushes their ideology in that exact same way. In fact the Far left invented smears, lies, and defamation of innocent people.
OH but I am not allowed to point that out,,, MBF or Tu quoque!!!
Lol far left MSM is an oxymoron.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:43:25am |
re: #488 Buck
The mainstream media isn’t far left. Only people who are absolutely lunatic on the ‘right’ side of the equation think that it is.
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BongCrodny Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:56:35am |
re: #488 Buck
Yes, that is your impression. As if the far left MSM never pushes their ideology in that exact same way. In fact the Far left invented smears, lies, and defamation of innocent people.
OH but I am not allowed to point that out,,, MBF or Tu quoque!!!
“The State Department is infested with communists. I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department.”
— Renowned Far Left Senator Joseph McCarthy, 1950
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Buck Tue, Jun 7, 2011 10:01:05am |
re: #492 BongCrodny
“The State Department is infested with communists. I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department.”
— Renowned Far Left Senator Joseph McCarthy, 1950
Well, you did have to reach back pretty far for that.. 61 years ago? What that has to do with Andrew Breitbart?
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Tue, Jun 7, 2011 10:03:15am |
re: #493 Buck
When saying that some group was the ‘first’ to start something, you should expect people to bring up, you know, history.
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Buck Tue, Jun 7, 2011 10:08:43am |
re: #494 Obdicut
When saying that some group was the ‘first’ to start something, you should expect people to bring up, you know, history.
Senator Joseph McCarthy was the media back then? Really?
And you accuse Sarah Palin of not knowing American history.
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 10:10:31am |
re: #495 Buck
Senator Joseph McCarthy was the media back then? Really?
And you accuse Sarah Palin of not knowing American history.
OK, let’s stop the goalpost-shifting.
Buck, what are you claiming exactly? That it was left-wing media outlets who invented the concept of smearing politicians?
When did this happen?
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Buck Tue, Jun 7, 2011 10:11:15am |
re: #491 Obdicut
The mainstream media isn’t far left. Only people who are absolutely lunatic on the ‘right’ side of the equation think that it is.
I wont have to go back 61 years to find a quote from a person that you DON’T think is an “absolutely lunatic” and thought that the media was far left.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 10:22:38am |
re: #497 Buck
I wont have to go back 61 years to find a quote from a person that you DON’T think is an “absolutely lunatic” and thought that the media was far left.
Too many negatives in that sentence.
“The media” is not “far left”, any more than the poor, hapless rightwing extremist is oppressed.
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Buck Tue, Jun 7, 2011 10:27:57am |
re: #496 iossarian
I know this will be a hard concept to grasp. However Joseph Pulitzer would be a great example of a journalist who used those techniques to sell newspapers. Especially during his “New York World” period.
I realize that his legacy has been cleaned up by history, and the prizes that bear his name. However, the term Yellow Journalism (presents little or no legitimate well-researched news and instead uses eye-catching headlines to sell more newspapers) is ascribed to him (originally) for a reason.
Did others use the same techniques as well? Sure. However presenting news without doing all the research in order to create eye catching headlines goes back to Joseph Pulitzer and “Yellow Journalism”.
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iossarian Tue, Jun 7, 2011 10:31:23am |
re: #499 Buck
I know this will be a hard concept to grasp. However Joseph Pulitzer would be a great example of a journalist who used those techniques to sell newspapers. Especially during his “New York World” period.
I realize that his legacy has been cleaned up by history, and the prizes that bear his name. However, the term Yellow Journalism (presents little or no legitimate well-researched news and instead uses eye-catching headlines to sell more newspapers) is ascribed to him (originally) for a reason.
Did others use the same techniques as well? Sure. However presenting news without doing all the research in order to create eye catching headlines goes back to Joseph Pulitzer and “Yellow Journalism”.
So, if the practice was in place before Pulitzer and “Yellow Journalism”, does that disprove your point, or are you just saying that this was a particular instance of the phenomenon?
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Buck Tue, Jun 7, 2011 10:42:15am |
re: #501 iossarian
So, if the practice was in place before Pulitzer and “Yellow Journalism”, does that disprove your point, or are you just saying that this was a particular instance of the phenomenon?
Here we go.
I am saying is that Andrew Breitbart just might really believe that the Far Left, and so called progressives have too much influence in the media, and that too often the news is slanted and biased against conservative views.
And that he wants to use the internet and his brand of websites to try and get the “other side” of the story out.
People asked questions, and I answered them. You want to pick apart my argument? Go ahead.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jun 7, 2011 11:30:24am |
re: #488 Buck
In fact the Far left invented smears, lies, and defamation of innocent people.
Buck, are you hallucinating?
You can’t be serious.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 11:53:26am |
re: #500 Buck
Your opinion.
It’s your opinion that it is.
Doesn’t stop you from asserting it’s true, does it.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Tue, Jun 7, 2011 11:54:50am |
re: #502 Buck
Here we go.
I am saying is that Andrew Breitbart just might really believe that the Far Left, and so called progressives have too much influence in the media, and that too often the news is slanted and biased against conservative views.
Some people really believe they are Napoleon, or that the earth is flat, or that dinosaurs died in the flood.
And?
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