Mitt #Romney Pushes “They’re Taking God Off Our Money” Conspiracy Theory in Virginia

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Today, The Hill reports that at a campaign stop in Virginia Beach, Virginia, Mitt Romney was quoted as saying the following:

Mitt Romney weighed in for the first time on the Democratic platform initially removing the word ‘God,” saying that was something he would never do.

Mitt Romney, stumped.

Romney began a campaign appearance in Virginia Beach, Va. on Saturday by reciting the Pledge of Allegiance before turning to the platform controversy.

‘That pledge says ‘under God,’ and I will not take God out of our platform,’ Romney said to cheers. ‘I will not take God off our coins, and I will not take God out of my heart.’

Is Mitt Romney still spreading a conspiracy theory from 2007, when e-mail rumors were circulating that “In God We Trust” was to be omitted from new U.S. dollar coins? A theory which Snopes found to be false? New U.S. dollar coins were designed with the motto “In God We Trust” omitted.

Interesting to note that to President Theodore Roosevelt, the inclusion of “In God We Trust” on currency was “sacrilegious” in the year 1907, as reflected in this New York Times article:

ROOSEVELT DROPPED ‘IN GOD WE TRUST’; President Says Such a Motto on Coin Is Irreverence, Close to Sacrilege. NO LAW COMMANDS ITS USE He Trusts Congress Will Not Direct Him to Replace the Exalted Phrase That Invited Constant Levity.

WASHINGTON, Nov. 13. — In answer to one of the numerous protests which have been received at the White House against the new gold coin which have been coined without the words “In God We Trust,” President Roosevelt has written a letter, which he to-day made public. The letter follows:

[Go to link for PDF]

UPDATE at 9/8/12 2:01:29 pm

Mitt’s really reaching now; this dumb conspiracy theory has been circulating on the far right for years. Here’s loony Pamela Geller pushing it in 2007, in her inimitably incoherent style: BOYCOTT GODLESS DOLLAR!!!

Whenever one of these wingnut conspiracy theories pops up, you’re guaranteed to find it somewhere on Geller’s site - she pushes every single one of them.

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340 comments
1 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 12:52:19pm

But Romney is going to bring the GOP back to the center! Herpty-derp!

2 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 12:56:40pm

Notice how ads for gold sellers immediately start appearing. Ain't technology wonderful?

3 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 12:59:03pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Notice how ads for gold sellers immediately start appearing. Ain't technology wonderful?

I've been getting Desk.com ads nonstop. Been doing some project management work. It is scarily accurate.

4 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:01:47pm

Promoted!

5 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:02:34pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Promoted!

Thanks. Now I can upding my own post. ;)

6 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:03:23pm

re: #5 Gus

Thanks. Now I can upding my own post. ;)

Dingception!

7 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:04:09pm

re: #6 Varek Raith

Dingception!

Dingsturbation.

8 HAL2010  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:04:41pm

re: #5 Gus

Now that's just greedy ;)

Great post btw.

I am considering doing a post on Obama vs. Romney on foreign policy... Could be interesting.

9 blueraven  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:07:22pm

OMG, you wont believe this

10 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:09:08pm

re: #8 HAL2010

Now that's just greedy ;)

Great post btw.

I am considering doing a post on Obama vs. Romney on foreign policy... Could be interesting.

Thanks. I was able to find the Theodore Roosevelt position while reading the "In God We Trust" section in Wiki. That adds and interesting dynamic to the debate by adding a religious opposition to the inclusion of God in money as being “sacrilegious." While not being religious myself I think logically it stands to reason that it would be sacrilegious. Or "what would Jesus say" about putting God on money? There are the obvious secular arguments against it and neutral positions.

11 HAL2010  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:09:11pm

re: #9 blueraven

At first I was going to down-vote you. But then ... It became captivating.

12 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:14:23pm

Hence.

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
1 Timothy 6:10
New International Version

13 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:15:14pm

New American Standard Bible
For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

And they're putting "In God We Trust" on money. Interesting.

14 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:15:20pm

Added an update about that Geller post.

15 b_sharp  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:15:42pm

Charles, how does this strike you?

LGF With Ads

16 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:15:46pm

Sock.

17 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:15:55pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Added an update about that Geller post.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

18 b_sharp  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:16:26pm

re: #16 Gus

Sock.

I usually don't wear any, but I can make some if you like.

19 HAL2010  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:16:45pm

re: #10 Gus

Thanks. I was able to find the Theodore Roosevelt position while reading the "In God We Trust" section in Wiki. That adds and interesting dynamic to the debate by adding a religious opposition to the inclusion of God in money as being “sacrilegious." While not being religious myself I think logically it stands to reason that it would be sacrilegious. Or "what would Jesus say" about putting God on money? There are the obvious secular arguments against it and neutral positions.

Well it is interesting. The pledge of allegiance only added God in 1954 (wiki just told me), so it really is a new phenomenon. Saw some statistic about the number of time "god" was mentioned in RNC and DNC convention papers. Again, a modern phenomenon.

I don't really know where that comes from, the need to be so literal, but it certainly seems a new idea.

Also, I thought about Hicks comment on Jesus and the cross. Would he really think that is an appropriate symbol for him?
You don't think he would be slightly freaked out by another cross?

Not sure what I am saying there, but nevermind.

20 JamesWI  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:17:09pm

Latest polls released today: Gallup 7 day tracking: Obama 49, Romney 45.

And the shocker: Rasmussen 3 day: Obama 46, Romney 44.

When even Rasmussen has the Republican down, you know you're screwed

21 sagehen  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:17:12pm

So one more item to add to my long list of why Teddy Roosevelt is one of my top 3 presidents of all time (I love the liberal Republicans -- TR, Lincoln and Eisenhower. They're the awesomest).

22 ReamWorks SKG  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:17:32pm

As a religious person, having a name for G-d on our money is deeply offensive to me. It seems to directly violate the explicit commandment of Exodus 20:7, and it also smacks of idolatrous practices.

I'll stick my neck out and say that I seriously question the religious faith of anybody who purports to be an adherent of any religion that includes the Hebrew Bible or portions of it in its liturgy, and who supports slapping G-d's name on money (or license plate frames, or bumper stickers, etc.)

23 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:19:50pm

re: #17 Gus

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Watched the video up until it said WND.
Stopped watching vid.
Laughed.

24 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:21:34pm

re: #19 HAL2010

It's such a made up nontroversey. Coins have had it since 1856. Not exactly a new item. Of course the courts ruled this is not a violation of the establishment clause long ago. I could care less if it's there or not.

I just never took the establishment clause as a requirement to sterilize every bit of paper or coin the government prints or every wall it happens to reside in. Otherwise one could argue that church polling places also violate the clause. Then you are just making it harder to vote.

25 b_sharp  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:22:00pm

BTW, Charles if you want me to butt out just say so.

26 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:25:26pm

re: #24 Daniel Ballard

It's such a made up nontroversey. Coins have had it since 1856. Not exactly a new item. Of course the courts ruled this is not a violation of the establishment clause long ago. I could care less if it's there or not.

I just never took the establishment clause as a requirement to sterilize every bit of paper or coin the government prints or every wall it happens to reside in. Otherwise one could argue that church polling places also violate the clause. Then you are just making it harder to vote.

I would like them to add: "All Others Pay Cash".

27 Sophist, Gingham Style  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:25:57pm

So wait, abortion and gay marriage are "hot-button issues that distract from what the real voting issue is going to be at this election. That, it’s going to be about the economy and jobs", but some fringe conspiracy nonsense is an important issue that needs to be addressed?

Gotta love their priorities...

28 blueraven  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:26:11pm

re: #20 JamesWI

Latest polls released today: Gallup 7 day tracking: Obama 49, Romney 45.

And the shocker: Rasmussen 3 day: Obama 46, Romney 44.

When even Rasmussen has the Republican down, you know you're screwed

29 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:26:58pm

re: #22 ReamWorks SKG

As a religious person, having a name for G-d on our money is deeply offensive to me. It seems to directly violate the explicit commandment of Exodus 20:7, and it also smacks of idolatrous practices.

I'll stick my neck out and say that I seriously question the religious faith of anybody who purports to be an adherent of any religion that includes the Hebrew Bible or portions of it in its liturgy, and who supports slapping G-d's name on money (or license plate frames, or bumper stickers, etc.)

30 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:27:04pm

re: #26 Decatur Deb

That would be funny on the dollar bill considering the deficit.

31 HAL2010  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:27:21pm

re: #24 Daniel Ballard

I'd draw the line at the ten commandments in public buildings. "God" means many things to many people, ten commandments are very specific.

Personally, I'd just like to keep religion out of politics, whatever its shape or form.

32 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:28:17pm

Oops. Thoughts not thoughs. I'll leave it up.

33 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:28:44pm

I just checked the In G-d We Trust motto at The Free Dictionary. [Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com...]

34 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:29:20pm

re: #31 HAL2010

I'd draw the line at the ten commandments in public buildings. "God" means many things to many people, ten commandments are very specific.

Personally, I'd just like to keep religion out of politics, whatever its shape or form.

You might want to strike our fair state from your vacation plans:

[Link: religion.blogs.cnn.com...]

35 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:31:06pm

re: #31 HAL2010

If were a Federal judge designing my courthouse lobby, it would have representations of law from as far back as could be archaeologically accurate, up through the ten, up through the Magna Carta, the US Constitution. And so on. At the very end I'd like a computer screen that would show whatever criminal law was just passed or changed. My point would be that we nod with respect to previous efforts at justice and we keep a cautionary eye on our own efforts.

36 HAL2010  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:31:56pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

You might want to strike our fair state from your vacation plans:

[Link: religion.blogs.cnn.com...]

If I come for the food, can we just ignore the rest?

Is that too much to ask for?

37 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:32:57pm

re: #35 Daniel Ballard

I would also include Hammurabi's Code. [Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com...]

38 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:33:18pm

re: #36 HAL2010

If I come for the food, can we just ignore the rest?

Is that too much to ask for?

Good BBQ, brain-dead electorate.

39 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:34:14pm

re: #37 PhillyPretzel

I would also include Hammurabi's Code. [Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com...]

Yes, all of them. You know what just occurred to me as a great courthouse display? The constitutions of many of the democracies around the world.

Just to freak thew wingers I'd include examples from Islam, hehehe

40 HAL2010  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:35:21pm

re: #35 Daniel Ballard

If were a Federal judge designing my courthouse lobby, it would have representations of law from as far back as could be archaeologically accurate, up through the ten, up through the Magna Carta, the US Constitution. And so on. At the very end I'd like a computer screen that would show whatever criminal law was just passed or changed. My point would be that we nod with respect to previous efforts at justice and we keep a cautionary eye on our own efforts.

Considering some previous efforts at "justice", I would rather they were there as a cautionary tale more than anything else. In a museum I'd be all for it, but I would be extremely careful about that kind of thing. Many laws were, and many still are, nuts.

41 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:35:50pm

re: #39 Daniel Ballard

Yes, all of them. You know what just occurred to me as a great courthouse display? The constitutions of many of the democracies around the world.

Great courthouse display? Live cellblock-cam on Jumbotrons.

42 ReamWorks SKG  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:37:31pm

Last night, my Synagogue did something very unusual; we had an Episcopalian Priest give a guest sermon during our Friday night service.

I was very skeptical; in fact I wasn't sure if I thought it was appropriate for a Christian to speak from the bimah, but after listening to the talk, I was glad I had the opportunity to hear it.

The Reverend Terry Gleeson, rector of the All Saints Episcopal Church in Palo Alto began by saying that there is an increasing number of people who are hostile to the idea of religion. Then he told his own story about how he was an ordained Catholic Priest in Australia, and moved to the Episcopal church where he married a man, his partner Dennis, and adopted a baby while working in a Philadelphia church. He, his partner Dennis, and his baby are all of different races. And when visiting some Churches they are met with hostility, including being shunned from open communion.

But he hasn't lost faith, he's found a home in Northern California, and he's opening minds a little at a time. He described the experience of fatherhood with his daughter and partner and closed with Isaiah 11:6.

43 HAL2010  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:37:49pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

Good BBQ, brain-dead electorate.

Stupid is as stupid does. If the good folks of Alabama elect Roy Moore again... Lets just say it probably won't do the state a lot of good PR.

44 dragonath  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:39:24pm

re: #39 Daniel Ballard

Yes, all of them. You know what just occurred to me as a great courthouse display? The constitutions of many of the democracies around the world.

MUUUUAAAA... the French!! It's vintage, fermented in the bottle...

Wait, what?!

45 ReamWorks SKG  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:39:58pm

re: #29 Gus

Here's the thing: I don't want to rock the boat for any politician who isn't out there insisting that he vows to keep G-d's name on our money! Romey's playing this game where, if you don't go out there and thump the Bible over everyone's head, then you must hate G-d!

(Of course, Romney' pandering is even sillier and more patronizing when you realize that many Christians don't consider Mormons to be Christian. I have no horse in that race, but I'd have to say I'd concur!)

46 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:40:18pm

re: #43 HAL2010

Stupid is as stupid does. If the good folks of Alabama elect Roy Moore again... Lets just say it probably won't do the state a lot of good PR.

There is zero chance of him losing. He is the next state supreme court Chief Justice. (Until he re-installs his multi-ton violation of the Constitution and is perhaps kicked out again.)

47 HAL2010  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:42:24pm

re: #46 Decatur Deb

There is zero chance of him losing. He is the next state supreme court Chief Justice. (Until he re-installs his multi-ton violation of the Constitution and is perhaps kicked out again.)

Somewhere right now Tommy Lee Jones just felt a sudden urge to look extremely condescending.

48 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:44:08pm

re: #47 HAL2010

Somewhere right now Tommy Lee Jones just felt a sudden urge to look extremely condescending.

Image: original.jpg

49 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:51:06pm

re: #40 HAL2010

Well it would be a historic theme, not an implication of how to decide any case. Including our mistakes is important for perspective. Imagine a person viewing some of those ancient awful laws and better appreciating the Voting Rights Act.

50 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:51:42pm

Is there some reason we need God on our money?

(I mean, I enjoy showing it to startled Europeans who thought that was an urban legend, but other than that...)

51 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:52:53pm

re: #50 SanFranciscoZionist

Is there some reason we need God on our money?

(I mean, I enjoy showing it to startled Europeans who thought that was an urban legend, but other than that...)

To counter atheistic-Sovietism of course!

52 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:54:55pm

re: #16 Gus

Sock.

It to...me?

/Nixon

53 HAL2010  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:56:07pm

re: #49 Daniel Ballard

Well it would be a historic theme, not an implication of how to decide any case. Including our mistakes is m=important for perspective. Imagine a person viewing some of those ancient awful laws and better appreciating the Voting Rights Act.

Would be very interesting, and educational. But I would wonder about the practicalities of the whole thing. In what order, where are they placed, which ones, how are they in turn picked, etc.

Good idea, but I personally wouldn't know about the execution.

54 ReamWorks SKG  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:57:06pm

I have a compromise: add an "l" and put us back on the Gold Standard.

In Gold We Trust

55 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:58:12pm

re: #53 HAL2010

Thanks. I'd shoot for chronological and leave the rest to a couple experts. I like the inclusive approach a LOT more than the ban approach. That's just my personal approach of course.

56 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:58:50pm

Here's the deal:

God's on the money now, and no politician is willing to be the one who takes it off, no matter how they feel privately.

57 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 2:59:15pm

re: #54 ReamWorks SKG

I have a compromise: add an "l" and put us back on the Gold Standard.

In Gold We Trust

I tell you, you shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold!

58 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:01:07pm

re: #54 ReamWorks SKG

I have a compromise: add an "l" and put us back on the Gold Standard.

In Gold We Trust

I'm partial to Jean Shepherd's version:
In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash

59 HAL2010  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:01:08pm

re: #54 ReamWorks SKG

I have a compromise: add an "l" and put us back on the Gold Standard.

In Gold We Trust

Bad idea. Won't stabilize a thing.

Under the gold standard America had no major financial panics other than in 1873, 1884, 1890, 1893, 1907, 1930, 1931, 1932, and 1933. Oh, wait.

from Krugman

Other arguments against.

"When we peg the dollar to gold we have to raise interest rates when gold is scarce, regardless of the state of the economy. This policy inflexibility was the major cause of the Great Depression, as governments were forced to tighten policy at the worst possible moment."

60 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:01:41pm

re: #56 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Here's the deal:

God's on the money now, and no politician is willing to be the one who takes it off, no matter how they feel privately.

Why bother? Physical money is going the way of the hitching rack.

61 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:05:40pm

I guess this story will bring out the transphobia.

62 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:07:28pm

re: #60 Decatur Deb

Why bother? Physical money is going the way of the hitching rack.

Unless you are buying fruit on the side of the road (very popular in states with lots of agriculture.)

Or paying off a tween for work done around the house, or an allowance.

Also, piano/violin lessons/ dance lessons/ gymnastic lessons are almost always paid by check. Mrs. Pianoteacher does not have a EBT station in her house.

63 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:08:02pm

re: #60 Decatur Deb

Why bother? Physical money is going the way of the hitching rack.

Meanwhile, as more people use and get used to 0s an 1s representing how much money they have and the ways to use it (cards, online payment, etc.), the more virulent RWNJs will continue to bleat about "the mark of the beast" and shit like that, especially as RFIDs increase in use.

64 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:08:55pm

re: #27 SophistFCD

So wait, abortion and gay marriage are "hot-button issues that distract from what the real voting issue is going to be at this election. That, it’s going to be about the economy and jobs", but some fringe conspiracy nonsense is an important issue that needs to be addressed?

Gotta love their priorities...

Great point, wish someone in the media would ask Mitt about that but knowing Mitt, he'd probably give some cock and bull answer.

65 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:09:49pm

re: #62 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Unless you are buying fruit on the side of the road (very popular in states with lots of agriculture.)

Or paying off a tween for work done around the house, or an allowance.

Also, piano/violin lessons/ dance lessons/ gymnastic lessons are almost always paid by check. Mrs. Pianoteacher does not have a EBT station in her house.

Just sync your iPad to the kid's Mac, and Bob's your uncle.

66 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:10:12pm

What the hell is Mitt's problem? This is the act of a very desperate candidate though.

67 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:10:15pm

Wasn't it illegal to own gold there for a while under the gold standard? Oh yes the market was $35, and you HAD to turn it all (well you could keep a small amount) in at $28, or else. Nice way to make a profit and avoid a deficit.

But wait, what would the wingnuts say to a demand they sell their gold at a loss to the government? Wow.

68 BongCrodny  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:10:53pm

re: #42 ReamWorks SKG

Last night, my Synagogue did something very unusual; we had an Episcopalian Priest give a guest sermon during our Friday night service.

I was very skeptical; in fact I wasn't sure if I thought it was appropriate for a Christian to speak from the bimah, but after listening to the talk, I was glad I had the opportunity to hear it.

The Reverend Terry Gleeson, rector of the All Saints Episcopal Church in Palo Alto began by saying that there is an increasing number of people who are hostile to the idea of religion. Then he told his own story about how he was an ordained Catholic Priest in Australia, and moved to the Episcopal church where he married a man, his partner Dennis, and adopted a baby while working in a Philadelphia church. He, his partner Dennis, and his baby are all of different races. And when visiting some Churches they are met with hostility, including being shunned from open communion.

But he hasn't lost faith, he's found a home in Northern California, and he's opening minds a little at a time. He described the experience of fatherhood with his daughter and partner and closed with Isaiah 11:6.

That sounds a lot healthier to me than the way the Vatican insists it has to be done.

69 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:12:47pm

The worst thing about Mitt doing this isn't really the act itself but it's the planting of conspiracy theories in people's minds. So people are going to believe that Obama "took God" off our money because Mitt Romney said so. This really is the most sleazy thing Mitt does. He knows this is a blatant falsehood but spreads it anyhow.

70 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:13:57pm

Whoooo wheeeeeee (Gators)

71 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:14:06pm

re: #65 Decatur Deb

Just sync your iPad to the kid's Mac, and Bob's your uncle.

We have neither ipad nor mac, and I'm not sure Mrs. Pianoteacher and Mrs. Violinteacher and Mrs. Dancestudioowner have either.

Also, I took the credit card off the tablet when the six year-old charged $6 real dollars in a virtual game with the touch of his widdle finger.

72 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:14:14pm

re: #62 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Smartphone to smartphone? The foodie truck and the roadside fruit stand probably has Square or some credit card smart phone reader setup.

BTW I just deposited my check with my Android phone. Why not an image of a credit card to pay for something?

EDIT I get your point, just read your above

73 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:14:47pm

re: #71 Mostly sane, most of the time.

We have neither ipad nor mac, and I'm not sure Mrs. Pianoteacher and Mrs. Violinteacher and Mrs. Dancestudioowner have either.

Also, I took the credit card off the tablet when the six year-old charged $6 real dollars in a virtual game with the touch of his widdle finger.

Do you have a hitching rack, perchance?

74 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:15:28pm

re: #72 Daniel Ballard

Smartphone to smartphone? The foodie truck and the roadside fruit stand probably has Square or some credit card smart phone reader setup.

BTW I just deposited my check with my Android phone. Why not an image of a credit card to pay for something?

Repeat after me: No seven year-old in existence needs a smartphone.

75 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:16:29pm

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Do you have a hitching rack, perchance?

Oh, you mean a hitching post.

I wasn't kidding. One touch, spent $6 the kid did not have. Credit card came off the tablet right then and there.

76 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:17:07pm

re: #74 Mostly sane, most of the time.

True. Or currency apart from learning to read it. Mom and or Dad gotta have all that covered.

77 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:17:43pm

re: #76 Daniel Ballard

True. Or currency apart from learning to read it. Mom and or Dad gotta have all that covered.

No, he gets coins every allowance day so that he can learn to save, give, and spend.

78 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:17:53pm

re: #71 Mostly sane, most of the time.

We have neither ipad nor mac, and I'm not sure Mrs. Pianoteacher and Mrs. Violinteacher and Mrs. Dancestudioowner have either.

Also, I took the credit card off the tablet when the six year-old charged $6 real dollars in a virtual game with the touch of his widdle finger.

Progress. When I was six I was forced through the laborious process of convincing a neighborhood store owner to put candy on my mom's tab.

79 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:20:21pm

Not good news for Romney.

80 ReamWorks SKG  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:22:11pm

re: #59 HAL2010

Sorry! I didn't mean to restart the gold debates here!

81 HAL2010  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:22:14pm

And on that note, good night everyone!

Been an interesting evening.

82 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:22:26pm

Virgil Goode is a big deal in SW Virginia.

83 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:22:27pm

re: #77 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Your right, my bad. I'm sure cash will be around plenty long enough for your children. Theirs? Not So Sure.

84 dragonath  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:22:34pm

Romney Embraces Bill Clinton Again

85 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:23:34pm

re: #79 Varek Raith

Not good news for Romney.

How convenient that they're only really challenging Goode and not Stein or Johnson. Anyhow, that could have a small impact on Romney here. Not sure how popular he is in his old district though which is where UVA is.

86 HAL2010  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:23:47pm

Oh, and if you have any wavering friends about Obama, share the page!


Good night, have a lovely Sunday!

87 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:24:25pm

re: #84 dragonath

Romney Embraces Bill Clinton Again

Romney is scared. Guy is on the defensive.

88 ReamWorks SKG  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:24:59pm

Ok! I'm off to practice the piano the rest of the afternoon! I've been on a home-recording bender. I'm trying to re-create that "Mercury Living Presence" sound on the recordings I grew up on (like Byron Janis' "Pictures"). I think they did a mid-side mic technique. The piano sounds 20' long.

89 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:25:16pm

re: #75 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Oh, you mean a hitching post.

I wasn't kidding. One touch, spent $6 the kid did not have. Credit card came off the tablet right then and there.

Hitching rail. Hitching posts are for one-horse towns.

90 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:25:18pm

re: #82 Varek Raith

Virgil Goode is a big deal in SW Virginia.

Is he really that popular down there? His district was more Charlottesville area but his brand of conservatism will resonate more down there than Romney's will.

91 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:25:19pm

re: #83 Daniel Ballard

Your right, my bad. I'm sure cash will be around plenty long enough for your children. Theirs? Not So Sure.

Not sure about that. Checks didn't get rid of cash.

Also, some large percentage of Americans don't even have a bank account.

92 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:26:02pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Is he really that popular down there? His district was more Charlottesville area but his brand of conservatism will resonate more down there than Romney's will.

Saw a poll on Maddow that had him at 9%.

94 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:27:03pm

re: #92 Varek Raith

Saw a poll on Maddow that had him at 9%.

Wow. No wonder why they're fighting like crazy to keep him off the ballot. It's worth noting that Romney only got 60% of the vote here in the primaries and that was without Santorum and Gingrich to compete with.

95 dragonath  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:28:07pm

Romney only got something like 60% (in Virginia) with only Ron Paul on the primary ballot. Not exactly deep support. And targeting on a particular candidate is really going to amp up the martyrdom.

96 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:28:34pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Wow. No wonder why they're fighting like crazy to keep him off the ballot. It's worth noting that Romney only got 60% of the vote here in the primaries and that was without Santorum and Gingrich to compete with.

That was PPP poll as of July 5.
Looking for more recent ones.

97 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:31:05pm

re: #96 Varek Raith

That was PPP poll as of July 5.
Looking for more recent ones.

Latest one I can find is at ~4%.
Romney needs all he can get in Va.

[Link: www.publicpolicypolling.com...]

98 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:33:23pm

re: #97 Varek Raith

Latest one I can find is at ~4%.
Romney needs all he can get in Va.

[Link: www.publicpolicypolling.com...]

Interesting, thanks. Most interesting find is the effect of transplants to the state's electorate. Kind of shows you why Palin and others were so eager to pander to the "Real Virginia" bullshit and I say that coming from a family who has been here since 1951.

99 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:36:47pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Interesting, thanks. Most interesting find is the effect of transplants to the state's electorate. Kind of shows you why Palin and others were so eager to pander to the "Real Virginia" bullshit and I say that coming from a family who has been here since 1951.

Yep.
I was born in Culpeper and now live in Manassas.
Not Real Virginia!
XD

100 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:45:55pm

1:30, we have the ball & are up by 3.

torture, thank you very much,.

101 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:47:49pm

re: #100 Stanley Sea

1:30, we have the ball & are up by 3.

torture, thank you very much,.

JINX!

102 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:50:08pm

re: #101 Varek Raith

JINX!

They boo'd our downed player. bleah Texas.

103 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:50:58pm

We won! We won!

104 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:59:52pm

Grumble.

105 sagehen  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:10:22pm

Hypothetical Presidential Hunger Games:

In a Mass Knife Fight to the Death Between Every American President, Who Would Win and Why?

[Link: faceintheblue.wordpress.com...]

15) James Buchanan. I’m going to put it out there: I think he’d be picked on. I believe at least half of the presidents after his time would want to be the guy to murder Buchanan. Dead early, and his corpse would be stabbed a few times to makes sure, and only Harriet Lane –his niece– is left to mourn him.

34) Dwight D. Eisenhower has a solid military background, and in his prime he should have been a force to be reckoned with. That said, his penchant for negotiation and seeking consensus is going to infuriate Andrew Jackson. When that mad man comes after Ike without anyone to pull them apart it will be a duel worthy of a 14-part 20-second-in-real-time anime epic.

106 Kragar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:12:15pm

re: #105 sagehen

Hypothetical Presidential Hunger Games:

In a Mass Knife Fight to the Death Between Every American President, Who Would Win and Why?

[Link: faceintheblue.wordpress.com...]

I'd say Teddy comes out on top.

107 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:14:09pm

MUST.FIND.PHOTO.

108 sagehen  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:18:39pm

re: #106 Kragar

I'd say Teddy comes out on top.

Yeah, that was the consensus, after the final showdown between him and Andrew Jackson. (the comments thread is pretty good too.)

Barack did not fare well.

109 Lidane  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:33:06pm

re: #107 Stanley Sea

MUST.FIND.PHOTO.

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Related:

110 Lidane  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:34:06pm

re: #105 sagehen

Hypothetical Presidential Hunger Games:

In a Mass Knife Fight to the Death Between Every American President, Who Would Win and Why?

[Link: faceintheblue.wordpress.com...]

Teddy Roosevelt would win that easy. No contest.

111 Lidane  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:36:54pm

Could these assholes please make up their goddamn minds?

Either you favored the auto bailouts or you thought they were ZOMG SOSHULISM. You can't have it both ways.

112 sagehen  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:37:42pm

re: #111 Lidane

Could these assholes please make up their goddamn minds?

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Either you favored the auto bailouts or you thought they were ZOMG SOSHULISM. You can't have it both ways.

You can when your audience has the attention span of goldfish.

113 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:38:12pm

re: #79 Varek Raith

Not good news for Romney.

Ought to go troll on FR in support of Goode. Its almost impossible for Romney to win without Va.

114 dragonath  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:38:49pm

The bootstraps are falling off.

115 Lidane  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:48:45pm

Haha:

116 Patricia Kayden  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:50:33pm

re: #20 JamesWI

Latest polls released today: Gallup 7 day tracking: Obama 49, Romney 45.

And the shocker: Rasmussen 3 day: Obama 46, Romney 44.

When even Rasmussen has the Republican down, you know you're screwed

Woo hoo! Let's see if all of Romney's money (SuperPacs as well) can buy him this election. The RNC was a disaster. The DNC was great. Hoping that the convention bounce carries through the debates and through November.

Let's go, Obama!

117 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:52:15pm

re: #68 BongCrodny

That sounds a lot healthier to me than the way the Vatican insists it has to be done.

One of my cousins has gone from Catholic to Episcopalian, not out of any theological conviction, but because as an Episcopalian, he can be out more easily, and he and his husband could have a nice church wedding.

The Catholics in the family regard this as a hopefully temporary situation--the Church will get its act together, and he'll come home.

118 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:52:37pm

re: #105 sagehen

Hypothetical Presidential Hunger Games:

In a Mass Knife Fight to the Death Between Every American President, Who Would Win and Why?

[Link: faceintheblue.wordpress.com...]

William Henry Harrison got within knife range of the foe at the Battle of Tippecanoe (which started as an attempt to kill him in his sleep) and the Battle of the Thames.

119 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:58:13pm

re: #110 Lidane

Teddy Roosevelt would win that easy. No contest.

Yeah, he was kind of my first thought. And Andrew Jackson.

Nixon might do quite well, though, by skulking behind things and stabbing people in the back.

120 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:03:06pm

I don't know, Harrison & Tyler both fought in the Northwest Territories. If you can have the Ike that went into the football game against Carlisle Indian, he'd definitely be a dirty fighting contender.

Heh, Hey DF, SFZ's got a great thought there - Tricky Dick as a 15th level Thief... ;)

121 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:06:13pm

re: #117 SanFranciscoZionist

One of my cousins has gone from Catholic to Episcopalian, not out of any theological conviction, but because as an Episcopalian, he can be out more easily, and he and his husband could have a nice church wedding.

The Catholics in the family regard this as a hopefully temporary situation--the Church will get its act together, and he'll come home.

Probably not any time soon, alas. We're getting all the liberals over in the Episcopal church and the arch conservatives are staying with Rome. Bennie is a short timer though. If the red hats put in a younger version of Bennie next, all bets are off.

122 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:10:14pm

I don't quite understand the author's belief that Abraham Lincoln goes to the top three. Against Taylor? Grant? Eisenhower?

123 freetoken  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:10:55pm

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

Abe did some fighting as a youth, no?

124 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:11:24pm

re: #123 freetoken

Abe did some fighting as a youth, no?

Vampires.

125 BongCrodny  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:12:18pm

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't quite understand the author's belief that Abraham Lincoln goes to the top three. Against Taylor? Grant? Eisenhower?

It's all the vampires Abe knocked off.

126 BongCrodny  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:12:49pm

re: #124 Varek Raith

Vampires.

Well, damn.

127 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:12:55pm

re: #123 freetoken

Abe did some fighting as a youth, no?

He had a few months of military service. Did he ever see combat?

128 Patricia Kayden  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:13:22pm

re: #66 HappyWarrior

What the hell is Mitt's problem? This is the act of a very desperate candidate though.

Yes. Money and desperation. Not a good combo.

129 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:13:35pm

I do love it that they've equipped FDR with a high-powered wheelchair.

130 freetoken  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:15:32pm

National Religious Broadcasters to Propose Solution to New Media Censorship

The National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) plans to release a proposal to new media companies like Facebook, Google and Apple on how to balance their free enterprise rights with the free speech rights of Internet users.

In recent years, new media companies have been accused of censoring faith-based viewpoints and expressions. In 2010, Apple removed from its iTunes App Store the Manhattan Declaration, a statement of Christian conscience drafted in part by the late Chuck Colson, as well as the app of Exodus International, a leading outreach to individuals, families, and churches impacted by LGBT issues.

More recently, Facebook removed from its site a page created by Gov. Mike Huckabee that called for a "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day" after the chain's president, Dan Cathy, expressed his unabashed support for traditional marriage. The page was taken down for about 12 hours before appearing again. A Facebook representative reportedly said if the company had deleted the page it was because the "content violated our policies not because of public sentiment."

"Clearly, these new media web-based tech companies have, at least in part, contributed to the suppression of free speech," says Craig Parshall, Senior Vice President & General Counsel at the National Religious Broadcasters and Director of the John Milton Project for Religious Free Speech.

[...]

Yeah, after all, I ought to be able to force a private company to carry whatever I want it to.

No?

131 freetoken  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:15:59pm

Not only do the heathen want to take God off my money, but they want to take God off my iPod too!!

132 BongCrodny  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:17:25pm

Dennis G. over at Balloon Juice has a nice little intro to a piece he posted today:

Mitt Romney will be on MTP Sunday. The only thing you can predict in advance is that he will get treated with kid gloves by the host, Karl Rove dancer David Gregory—a fella who has built his career on fluffing wingnuts and concern trolling Democrats.

I could strap on the thinking cap 24/7 and I don't think I'd ever come up with a better term to describe today's media than "fluffing wingnuts."

133 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:18:33pm

Thought this was good.

That's because voting rights aren't in teh Konstitushun!!11

134 sagehen  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:18:56pm

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't quite understand the author's belief that Abraham Lincoln goes to the top three. Against Taylor? Grant? Eisenhower?

All that log-splitting -- good upper body strength, long reach, familiarity with edged weapons....

135 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:19:03pm

Watching Charles log in and out is making me dizzy.

//

136 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:20:14pm

re: #135 Gus

::: passing Gus some smelling salts :::

137 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:20:40pm

re: #136 PhillyPretzel

::: passing Gus some smelling salts :::

Thanks. I already had them out for that other thread.

//

138 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:21:07pm

re: #123 freetoken

Abe did some fighting as a youth, no?

1. Black Hawk War. No fighting, I believe, but some really good stories to tell on himself.

2. Wrestling. Backwoods hand-to-hand rasslin.

139 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:21:50pm

re: #127 SanFranciscoZionist

He had a few months of military service. Did he ever see combat?

He was a bit of a brawler.

[Link: rogerjnorton.com...]

And he was ready to fight a duel with sabers against a military veteran and was certain he could disarm him, which is a darn sight harder than killing him. Maybe Lincoln was overconfident in his own abilities, but he seems like a guy with good self-knowledge.

Being six foot four and an ex-champion logsplitter gets you a good groundwork.

And during some random political speech he got really mad at someone starting a fight in the audience so he went in and just started throwing the guy around.

140 freetoken  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:22:18pm

Amidst the Culture War, David Barton Merits a Court-Martial: a Dispatch from an Ex-Wallbuilder

Strange but true - a religious conservative is afraid Barton's excesses will turn people off. From the blog article:

[...] Even in a more cordoned-off environment, the crestfallen are left exposed for the wolves. Students abandon orthodoxy, conservatism, or tradition generally for the cruel arms of liberalism and heresy. After all, their only image of the tradition they needed to conserve was a poor one. They become careless secularists that pitilessly deride any other interpretation of the American narrative.

[...]

The "cruel arms of liberalism" - hey, is he talking about us?

141 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:22:58pm

Thomas Jefferson: His dying words would be incredibly quotable.

142 BongCrodny  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:25:12pm

Hey, what about Taft?

At +/- 325 pounds, you could wear yourself out before you hit a vital organ.

143 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:25:41pm

Now here we have a real prize. A man mean enough to shoot at a cat and stupid enough to hit his granddaughter.

144 freetoken  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:26:11pm

Desperately seeking funding from the alumni association?


Tailgaters contribute to team victory and even university brand, Notre Dame study shows

145 BongCrodny  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:27:53pm

re: #143 Daniel Ballard

Now here we have a real prize. A man mean enough to shoot at a cat and stupid enough to hit his granddaughter.

Never in a million billion years would I have believed that story was from Texas.

146 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:28:23pm

re: #143 Daniel Ballard

Now here we have a real prize. A man mean enough to shoot at a cat and stupid enough to hit his granddaughter.

Double the moron.

147 freetoken  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:29:03pm

I'd think this guy was a Beck-ite, except his magic book has the wrong title:


Man charged with murder in shooting at Kentucky homeowners meeting jailed on $1M bond

[...]

In one letter that ranted about several neighbors, Hindi cited the Quran, the theory of creationism, the idea that America has gone to Communism, threatens to form his own homeowners association and accused neighbors of stealing his “no trespassing signs” in the dispute over the fence.

[...]

148 freetoken  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:31:12pm

Hehehe...

Obama makes birth certificate joke in Orlando

149 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:31:44pm

RuPaul's new focus: Hiking in L.A.
RuPaul made a name for himself as a drag diva in the 1990s, but he's replaced sashaying with hiking.

150 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:35:03pm

Derp.

151 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:35:52pm

re: #149 Gus

Have you ever seen "The Eyes of Tammy Fae"? It's great, and RuPaul is great in it.

152 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:35:59pm

re: #150 Gus

Derp.

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Lol, like he even knows any driver in NASCAR.

153 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:36:32pm

GO JEFF GORDON!

154 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:36:39pm

re: #152 Varek Raith

Lol, like he even knows any driver in NASCAR.

Probably never even heard of Dale Earnhardt or Richard Petty.

155 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:37:07pm

re: #147 freetoken

I'd think this guy was a Beck-ite, except his magic book has the wrong title:

Man charged with murder in shooting at Kentucky homeowners meeting jailed on $1M bond

“He threatened people, he would say things like, ‘You know I’ve got a gun and I just might use it.’”

At what point do we start taking these assholes at their word?

(Extra points for Zombie-Lenin lawyer.)

156 A Mom Anon  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:37:17pm

re: #150 Gus

Another gotcha question!!!
I bet he reads all the newspapers too.

157 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:38:53pm
158 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:38:53pm

Someone should ask Romney who shot first.

159 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:41:08pm

re: #150 Gus

Derp.

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The only reason Rmoney's even there is to further the illusion (and delusion) that he gives a shit about NASCAR fans, many of whom are RWNJs or leaning in that direction.

I don't even think he could identify with many of the team owners...

160 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:42:13pm

re: #159 Gert Fröbe

The only reason Rmoney's even there is to further the illusion (and delusion) that he gives a shit about NASCAR fans, many of whom are RWNJs or leaning in that direction.

I don't even think he could identify with many of the team owners...

Major pandering. He has little in common with NASCAR folks other than the owners and corporate sponsors.

161 freetoken  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:43:10pm

re: #154 Gus

Probably never even heard of Dale Earnhardt or Richard Petty.

The first was a country music star and the latter a rock music icon, no?

162 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:43:48pm

re: #161 freetoken

The first was a country music star and the latter a rock music icon, no?

Dale Evans and Tom Petty?

//

163 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:43:53pm

re: #150 Gus

Derp.

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At least he didn't say "All of them."

164 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:48:58pm

It seems like virtually everyone recognizes Romney for the empty suit he is and he has virtually no support outside the Obama-loathing GOP base. So it appears that this is the President's election to lose, unless the tidal wave of money that the GOP and its owners are going to unleash can sway enough voters in the swing states.

165 Decatur Deb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:49:05pm

re: #157 Gus

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re: #157 Gus

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"What is suitable attire for a young African-American at a Romney/NASCAR soiree?"

Polyethylene gloves.

(No. 8)

166 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:49:11pm

Guess this was the guy who asked.

167 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:49:43pm

I'm seriously considering signing up with Fonts.com to use their web fonts at LGF. I've been playing with Google Webfonts but they're really not professional quality.

[Link: www.fonts.com...]

Fonts.com has something like 8,000 fonts from the main foundries, Linotype, Monotype, ITC, etc. and a lot of them are specifically optimized for web use. They even have ITC Kabel, which is the font I've used for years as LGF's trademarked logo.

168 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:50:29pm

I've got a hankerin' fer some better typography around these parts.

169 sagehen  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:50:30pm

re: #158 Varek Raith

Someone should ask Romney who shot first.

Han.

(I reject the revisions)

170 sagehen  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:51:16pm

re: #162 Gus

Dale Evans and Tom Petty?

//

Dale Evans had a horse.

171 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:53:11pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

At least he didn't say "All of them."

Close enough!

172 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:53:52pm
173 freetoken  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:54:09pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

I've mentioned here a couple of times about Chrome choking on fonts. Don't know why, and it only affected Chrome and not other OSX apps; I'd have to reboot the Mac to fix it.

174 freetoken  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:56:03pm

re: #164 aagcobb

So it appears that this is the President's election to lose,...

Yet when on looks at the unemployment picture coming out of the last recession:
Image: EmployRecAug2012.jpg
it seems like this election ought to be Mitt's to lose.

We've been in a uniquely long recessionary tale, post WWII.

175 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:59:55pm

re: #174 freetoken

Yet when on looks at the unemployment picture coming out of the last recession:
Image: EmployRecAug2012.jpg
it seems like this election ought to be Mitt's to lose.

We've been in a uniquely long recessionary tale, post WWII.

This recession has been much worse than any other post-WWII recession, and the Europeans seemed determined to turn it into a Depression on their side of the pond, and try to drag the rest of the world down with them.

176 freetoken  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:00:28pm

The August Employment Report

Policy action is needed, with all deliberate speed.

Yup.

Milquetoast Mitt losing this election would be striking.

177 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:02:08pm

re: #173 freetoken

I've mentioned here a couple of times about Chrome choking on fonts. Don't know why, and it only affected Chrome and not other OSX apps; I'd have to reboot the Mac to fix it.

Yeah, I tried to duplicate that but couldn't. But it's entirely possible that Google's open source fonts might cause memory leaks or other problems.

That's another reason to pay the money and get a Fonts.com account - their fonts are top quality, designed by world class typography gurus.

An alternative is Typekit.com:

[Link: typekit.com...]

Also pro-quality, but they have fewer fonts, and specifically they don't have ITC Kabel or some other ones I'd be interested in.

178 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:03:28pm

re: #176 freetoken

The August Employment Report

Yup.

Milquetoast Mitt losing this election would be striking.

You are right, the election ought to be Mitt's to lose. However the GOP has veered so far off into the tall grass, they have nearly destroyed their ability to appeal to anyone outside of a very narrow demographic. The GOP should've been cultivating Hispanic voters and building bridges to the Gay community instead of demonizing them.

179 Gus  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:04:12pm

bbl

180 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:06:00pm

re: #172 Gus

OMG! Mitt puts the race in racism!
Romney reaching out to white male voters at NASCAR race

"NASCAR fans are everywhere"

Personally, I'm just fine with a president who can't name his favorite NASCAR driver.

181 freetoken  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:07:09pm

re: #178 aagcobb

I don't know if the GOP could have nominated a less empathetic figure. Few people can identify with Romney, and he can identify with even fewer.

182 labman57  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:10:26pm

Mitt needs to get as close to God as possible, because the only way he is going to win in November is through divine intervention.

183 freetoken  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:16:48pm

I wrote a few weeks ago about being surprised at how the local newspaper - what used to be called the San Diego Union Tribune - had changed the past couple of years. I hadn't read it so I was not aware of all the changes.

Now it is owned by a local real estate magnate, and he is a trying to outdo Murdoch:

San Diego newspaper hosting ‘one-stop shop’ for state GOP candidates

In an apparent continuation of its stance of “taking positions,” U-T San Diego, the largest newspaper in San Diego, will be hosting a media training ‘one-stop shop’ for California conservative political candidates this coming Tuesday.

According to San Diego Citybeat, the paper offered to avail itself to the San Diego County branches of both the Republican and Democratic parties for workshops.

[...]

Jess Durfee, chairperson of the San Diego County Democratic Party, told CityBeat his office did receive an overture from U-T San Diego, but declined to take part, citing the newspaper’s increasingly strident defense of Republican politics since being bought by developer Doug Manchester last year, such as an editorial naming President Barack Obama the “worst president of all time”

[...]

Earlier this year, [UT CEO] Lynch offered no apologies for its stance to the New York Times.

“We are doing what a newspaper ought to do, which is to take positions,” Lynch said. “We are very consistent — pro-conservative, pro-business, pro-military — and we are trying to make a newspaper that gets people excited about this city and its future.”

184 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:16:53pm

Obama asks Hawaiian-born boy if he has a birth certificate

During a stop for beer and some politicking at a Florida sports bar and grill, Obama came to a table with lots of children.

Told that one blond-haired youngster, Andre Wupperman, was born in Hawaii, Obama grinned.

"Do you have a birth certificate?" Obama asked the boy, drawing laughter from the table. Wupperman turns 7 next week.
....
Obama's campaign lashed out at Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney last month when he said at a Michigan rally: "No one's ever asked to see my birth certificate."

Romney said his comment was meant as humor. The Obama campaign said it showed him enlisting himself with the conspiracy theorists.

185 freetoken  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:22:35pm

Photo ID edict could hit 215,000 Minnesota voters

Elderly, poor and students among those most affected by a photo requirement.

Who says the elderly, the poor, and students ought be able to vote?


As a white adult male, I resent the cheapening of my distinctive privileges.

eek

186 Kragar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:30:56pm

2 roast chickens, 2 tubs of salsa, 40 torrillas, rice and beans, all for $20.

Yum.

187 Eventual Carrion  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:33:54pm

re: #1 Obdicut

But Romney is going to bring the GOP back to the center! Herpty-derp!

To be truthful I think it should be stated that he didn't mean the "middle" politically, he meant that we should go back to the thinking that we were the center of our solar system. Everything orbits us. We are the be all and end all of creation. Scary thought that we will never get any better or advance as a civilization, but that shit is scary.

188 BongCrodny  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:35:21pm

re: #180 Killgore Trout

OMG! Mitt puts the race in racism!
Romney reaching out to white male voters at NASCAR race

Personally, I'm just fine with a president who can't name his favorite NASCAR driver.

Sure. But if he claims to be a fan and *still* can't name his favorite driver, that also says a lot.

189 Tigger2005  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:36:12pm

(Paraphrased) "It's George Washington's face on the dollar. Render unto Washington that which is Washington's, and unto God that which is God's."

"But the money also has the name of God on it."

"OK, you got me."

190 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:41:13pm

And just as I was about to jump, Fonts.com seems to have increased their pricing drastically.

[Link: www.fonts.com...]

191 Digital Display  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:41:25pm

re: #185 freetoken

Photo ID edict could hit 215,000 Minnesota voters

Who says the elderly, the poor, and students ought be able to vote?

As a white adult male, I resent the cheapening of my distinctive privileges.

eek

Voter ID laws.. I can see both sides on this. There must be a solution that protects the integrity of voting..
I was living in Indiana when the Voter ID was upheld. But Indiana made damn sure if you didn't have an ID you could get one and if you are poor It's free. I like solutions based ideas that benefit all of us.

192 jaunte  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:49:05pm
193 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:50:56pm

re: #172 Gus

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Driver? Yeah, I have a driver.

Here you go

194 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:51:11pm

re: #191 Digital Display

Voter ID laws.. I can see both sides on this. There must be a solution that protects the integrity of voting..
I was living in Indiana when the Voter ID was upheld. But Indiana made damn sure if you didn't have an ID you could get one and if you are poor It's free. I like solutions based ideas that benefit all of us.

Define free? Can an 85 year-old who has long since lost their birth certificate get one for free, or do they have to pay to get another copy of that?

195 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:51:53pm

re: #184 Killgore Trout

Obama asks Hawaiian-born boy if he has a birth certificate

You forgot to mention the Gator Chomp he did. !!

196 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:52:33pm

re: #192 jaunte

But at a Saturday afternoon rally here, Mr. Romney did not just recite the Pledge of Allegiance; he also metaphorically wrapped his stump speech in it, using each line of the pledge to attack President Obama.

At this point I'm just happy to hear that he didn't sing it...

197 Kragar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:56:57pm

re: #196 Mocking Jay

At this point I'm just happy to hear that he didn't sing it...

Youtube Video
198 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 6:59:14pm

re: #197 Kragar

Die.

199 Kragar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:00:14pm

re: #198 Mocking Jay

Die.

You speak German?

200 Digital Display  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:01:27pm

re: #194 Mocking Jay

Define free? Can an 85 year-old who has long since lost their birth certificate get one for free, or do they have to pay to get another copy of that?

I don't recall, Like you just had to show you lived in the State or something.
It passed muster with the SCOTUS. If you couldn't afford it, it was free.
I'll have to go read up on it...
Interesting though..During arguments the whole 85 year old woman without ID was brought up..She was a nun up north that never got an ID. Apparently she was cashing her nun checks for 70 years without a bank account or ID.
Weird

201 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:04:34pm

re: #199 Kragar

You speak German?

NEIN!

202 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:05:56pm

Is it just me, or are you other lurkers out there having a problem with updating comments without logging in? Been like this for the last few days.

/// Must be an evil plot on Charles part to show an increase in registered users participation.

But, seriously, I can't update the page unless I either reload or log in. Once I log in, the new message counter works fine.

Charles?

203 sagehen  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:06:46pm

re: #191 Digital Display

Voter ID laws.. I can see both sides on this. There must be a solution that protects the integrity of voting..
I was living in Indiana when the Voter ID was upheld. But Indiana made damn sure if you didn't have an ID you could get one and if you are poor It's free. I like solutions based ideas that benefit all of us.

Virginia's law was ok'd by the DoJ, because it allows for a whole range of ID's (including university ID, nursing home ID, work badges if there's a picture, and a couple of other things), or there's a really easy system to be able to vote by mail (which obviously verifies your address).

204 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:08:13pm

re: #201 Mocking Jay

NEIN!

Nein nein nein!

/Herr Cain

205 sagehen  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:09:42pm

re: #200 Digital Display

I don't recall, Like you just had to show you lived in the State or something.
It passed muster with the SCOTUS. If you couldn't afford it, it was free.
I'll have to go read up on it...
Interesting though..During arguments the whole 85 year old woman without ID was brought up..She was a nun up north that never got an ID. Apparently she was cashing her nun checks for 70 years without a bank account or ID.
Wierd

I used to be able to cash checks with no ID, at the bank where the teller recognized my name and said "oh, you look so much like your mother." That was ID enough.

206 Lidane  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:10:16pm

re: #150 Gus

Derp.

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So I guess that's the 2012 version of "Which newspaper do you read?" "All of them."

207 Kragar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:11:03pm

re: #204 Targetpractice

Nein nein nein!

/Herr Cain

Youtube Video
208 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:11:23pm

re: #206 Lidane

So I guess that's the 2012 version of "Which newspaper do you read?" "All of them."

That's actually an improvement when you consider that he used to mention what good friends he was with the owners.

209 Lidane  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:15:32pm

re: #192 jaunte

I'll add another word to that list -- desperate.

It's obvious that Romney HQ's internal polling numbers after both conventions are throwing them into full panic mode. In the last couple of days, Mittens has endorsed Steve King, pandered to the conspiracy nuts with this bullshit about taking God off the currency, and now he's at NASCAR. Sending Mitt to a NASCAR race is like sending Kim Kardashian to a MENSA meeting -- both of them are completely out of their element.

210 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:18:02pm

re: #209 Lidane

I'll add another word to that list -- desperate.

It's obvious that Romney HQ's internal polling numbers after both conventions are throwing them into full panic mode. In the last couple of days, Mittens has endorsed Steve King, pandered to the conspiracy nuts with this bullshit about taking God off the currency, and now he's at NASCAR. Sending Mitt to a NASCAR race is like sending Kim Kardashian to a MENSA meeting -- both of them are completely out of their element.

Its a GOP tradition, like H.W. Bush pretending pork rinds were his favorite snack.

211 Digital Display  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:18:17pm

re: #205 sagehen

I used to be able to cash checks with no ID, at the bank where the teller recognized my name and said "oh, you look so much like your mother." That was ID enough.

Hey..I grew up in a small town..Those were the days..Like I said..I see both sides.
I'm afraid someday the Man is going to Bar code our asses at birth. There is no escaping the State..
I feel like a number!

212 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:19:28pm

re: #203 sagehen

Virginia's law was ok'd by the DoJ, because it allows for a whole range of ID's (including university ID, nursing home ID, work badges if there's a picture, and a couple of other things), or there's a really easy system to be able to vote by mail (which obviously verifies your address).

This is what I do.
Evening Honcos.

213 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:20:06pm

re: #211 Digital Display

Hey..I grew up in a small town..Those were the days..Like I said..I see both sides.
I'm afraid someday the Man is going to Bar code our asses at birth. There is no escaping the State..
I feel like a number!

I am not a number. I am a free man!!

214 jaunte  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:20:31pm

re: #209 Lidane

Joe Scarborough thinks the GOP should have gone more conservative with their nominee:
"Maybe there seemed to be such a disparity between the two conventions because the Republican Party has never been the least bit excited about its nominee."
[Link: www.politico.com...]

215 Lidane  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:21:54pm

re: #184 Killgore Trout

Obama asks Hawaiian-born boy if he has a birth certificate

The comments are full of birther derp. It's hilarious.

216 Kragar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:22:22pm

NOM’s Brian Brown: Obama Will Impose Gay Marriage On All Of Us

The National Organization for Marriage has confirmed the bizarre conclusion it alluded to earlier this week when it released a misleadingly edited clip of Michelle Obama’s speech to the Democratic National Convention. In a new fundraising email, NOM’s Brian Brown claimed that President Obama and the Democrats will actually force straight people to enter same-sex marriages:

Obama is running for re-election on a platform to re-define marriage for everyone.

But don’t take my word for it. Obama’s official, national platform has codified homosexual marriage as its policy for all Americans!

You see, Obama’s platform actually calls for the “full repeal of the so-called Defense of Marriage Act” and imposes “one man and one man” marriage on all of us. They even tried to throw God out of the picture entirely. [...]

If Christians, marriage supporters, and people of faith sit on their hands, marriage will be re-defined like an outdated institution and homosexual marriage will become the law of the land.

So will every marriage in the US be annulled the moment Obama is elected or only after he gets sworn in? Is there a form we need to fill out about what we're looking for in a same sex spouse or do we just get assigned one?

217 Kragar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:23:01pm

re: #213 Cannadian Club Akbar

I am not a number. I am a free man!!

Youtube Video
218 Digital Display  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:23:08pm

re: #213 Cannadian Club Akbar

I am not a number. I am a free man!!

Hi CCR!
Damn it I'm a man..
Excuse me tonight..I'm a tad silly laying in bad, My knee is acting up again and I'm on good painkillers.

219 Kronocide  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:23:42pm

Obama will make us all America Hating Lustful Cockmonsters.

220 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:23:47pm

re: #217 Kragar

RULE!!!

221 Kragar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:24:13pm

re: #220 Cannadian Club Akbar

RULE!!!

UP THE IRONS!

222 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:25:08pm

re: #214 jaunte

Joe Scarborough thinks the GOP should have gone more conservative with their nominee:
"Maybe there seemed to be such a disparity between the two conventions because the Republican Party has never been the least bit excited about its nominee."
[Link: www.politico.com...]

That will be the excuse when Romney loses.

223 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:25:18pm

re: #221 Kragar

UP THE IRONS!

Seen 'em 4 times. Once with Twisted Sister as the opener. Once with Quiet Riot. Man, I used to be young.

224 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:25:45pm

re: #222 aagcobb

That will be the excuse when Romney loses.

Pretty sure I remember hearing that when McCain lost.

225 jaunte  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:26:32pm

re: #216 Kragar

You see, Obama’s platform actually calls for the “full repeal of the so-called Defense of Marriage Act” and imposes “one man and one man” marriage on all of us.

Convinced there will be enough gays to go around, Brian Brown refuses to believe in Bill Clinton's tyrannical "arithmetic."

226 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:26:36pm

re: #218 Digital Display

Hi CCR!
Damn it I'm a man..
Excuse me tonight..I'm a tad silly laying in bad, My knee is acting up again and I'm on good painkillers.

It's all good. Just sit back and remember how cool everything is gonna be for you very soon.:)

227 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:26:37pm

re: #224 Mocking Jay

Pretty sure I remember hearing that when McCain lost.

And when Dole lost, and when H.W. Bush lost.

228 Kragar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:26:39pm

re: #223 Cannadian Club Akbar

Seen 'em 4 times. Once with Twisted Sister as the opener. Once with Quiet Riot. Man, I used to be young.

2 times here. Once with Anthrax opening, second time with Motorhead and Dio.

229 Lidane  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:27:05pm

re: #214 jaunte

Dear Joe Scarborough,

The problem isn't that your nominee isn't conservative enough. It's that he's a rich patrician Masshole that no one really likes. Mitt Romney is the draft-dodging, white bread version of John Kerry, but with less charisma.

Also, it might just be possible that the GOP's ideas suck. Just a thought.

Sincerely,
Me

230 jaunte  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:27:32pm

re: #222 aagcobb

LOUDER NASCAR

231 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:27:58pm

Just in case Riene is lurking...
BBC - Mastercrafts - 4. Stained Glass

Youtube Video
232 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:28:01pm

re: #216 Kragar

NOM’s Brian Brown: Obama Will Impose Gay Marriage On All Of Us

So will every marriage in the US be annulled the moment Obama is elected or only after he gets sworn in? Is there a form we need to fill out about what we're looking for in a same sex spouse or do we just get assigned one?

The wingularity has become indistinguishable from Onion articles. If I see a story claiming Obama will require every woman to have an abortion, I won't know if its real or a parody.

233 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:28:32pm

re: #228 Kragar

2 times here. Once with Anthrax opening, second time with Motorhead and Dio.

Seen Dio 3X. Always the headliner. His laser show with his act really went really well with the acid I was taking.

234 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:29:34pm

re: #214 jaunte

Joe Scarborough thinks the GOP should have gone more conservative with their nominee:
"Maybe there seemed to be such a disparity between the two conventions because the Republican Party has never been the least bit excited about its nominee."
[Link: www.politico.com...]

Yeah but who though? The reason they went with Romney is that he was the most competitive against Obama. If they'd gone with somebody they actually like his numbers would be shit, regardless of how excited they were about him. Pawlenty was the only viable option I could see and he chickened out after the Iowa straw poll. Scarborough's statement is an easy one to make, but I don't see him offering any specifics, and that's the problem, he can't. The entire Republican field this time around was complete crap, with Romney nominated because he was the least bad, not because anybody actually trusted him or thought he stood for anything.

235 prairiefire  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:29:44pm

Deep Purple playing "Hush" at the Playboy mansion ~

Youtube Video
236 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:31:31pm

re: #216 Kragar

NOM’s Brian Brown: Obama Will Impose Gay Marriage On All Of Us

So will every marriage in the US be annulled the moment Obama is elected or only after he gets sworn in? Is there a form we need to fill out about what we're looking for in a same sex spouse or do we just get assigned one?

Brian Brown is so goddamned stupid.

237 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:32:05pm

re: #234 goddamnedfrank

Yeah but who though? The reason they went with Romney is that he was the most competitive against Obama. If they'd gone with somebody they actually like his numbers would be shit, regardless of how excited they were about him. Pawlenty was the only viable option I could see and he chickened out after the Iowa straw poll. Scarborough's statement is an easy one to make, but I don't see him offering any specifics, and that's the problem, he can't. The entire Republican field this time around was complete crap, with Romney nominated because he was the least bad, not because anybody actually trusted him or thought he stood for anything.

Huck. He totally could have been the nominee this year.

238 Digital Display  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:32:42pm

re: #226 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's all good. Just sit back and remember how cool everything is gonna be for you very soon.:)

Thks bro..
I'm going to the country

Youtube Video
239 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:32:44pm

re: #234 goddamnedfrank

Yeah but who though? The reason they went with Romney is that he was the most competitive against Obama. If they'd gone with somebody they actually like his numbers would be shit, regardless of how excited they were about him. Pawlenty was the only viable option I could see and he chickened out after the Iowa straw poll. Scarborough's statement is an easy one to make, but I don't see him offering any specifics, and that's the problem, he can't. The entire Republican field this time around was complete crap, with Romney nominated because he was the least bad, not because anybody actually trusted him or thought he stood for anything.

Really, can you just imagine what the poll numbers would be if wingnut favs Gingrich or Santorum had been nominated? Once TPaw and Huntsman bowed out, Romney was the only remotely credible candidate left.

240 prairiefire  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:32:46pm

re: #235 prairiefire

Deep Purple playing "Hush" at the Playboy mansion ~

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1968, those are all real boobies, for sure.

241 jaunte  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:33:38pm

re: #234 goddamnedfrank

Maybe Scarborough is fantasizing that Santorum would have been more popular than Romney, or that Christie might have run.

242 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:33:41pm

Oh, for all you football geeks. Where I live now has a festival once a year. Big ass block party. My friend was telling me how he met Joe Theisman there one year. At the next block was Joe signing autographed pictues. Nice guy.
PS. Non football people: Theisman was the QB for Washington before he had his leg snapped on national TV.

243 prairiefire  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:36:35pm

RIP songwriter Hal David ~

Youtube Video
244 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:37:18pm

re: #231 Killgore Trout

Just in case Riene is lurking...
BBC - Mastercrafts - 4. Stained Glass

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I miss her 'round here. One of our kindest.

245 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:38:05pm

re: #241 jaunte

Maybe Scarborough is fantasizing that Santorum would have been more popular than Romney, or that Christie might have run.

Christie better get some weight-loss tips from Huckabee if he wants to run for President. America isn't electing Tony Soprano President of the U.S.

246 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:38:34pm

re: #242 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oh, for all you football geeks. Where I live now has a festival once a year. Big ass block party. My friend was telling me how he met Joe Theisman there one year. At the next block was Joe signing autographed pictues. Nice guy.
PS. Non football people: Theisman was the QB for Washington before he had his leg snapped on national TV.

I'm the only one of my three brothers who haven't met him. It's totally weird but my two brothers have met him on two separate occasions.

247 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:38:47pm

re: #245 aagcobb

Christie better get some weight-loss tips from Huckabee if he wants to run for President. America isn't electing Tony Soprano President of the U.S.

Taft is the reason we have the 7th inning stretch in baseball.

248 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:40:27pm

re: #244 Daniel Ballard

I miss her 'round here. One of our kindest.

Agreed.

249 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:40:31pm

Let's be honest, the GOP had to fulfill two diametrically opposed requirements in a nominee: A "true conservative" that didn't scare the ever-loving shit out of anybody with two-functioning brain cells. Once the also-rans had been weeded out, Romney was the only choice left. The party sees this as a failure to pick somebody who pleases the base. The rest of us see it as the reality that the GOP as a party is out of their gourds.

250 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:41:15pm

re: #246 HappyWarrior

I'm the only one of my three brothers who haven't met him. It's totally weird but my two brothers have met him on two separate occasions.

He was very friendly. It was raining and he was telling people to get under the tent he was under to get out of the rain. Then the guy running the show walked up and said "15 minutes and you're good to go". Theisman said, "Na, I'll stick around a bit longer".

251 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:41:33pm

Honest, I am still shocked that it was Santorum that gave Romney the best ride for his money. I totally overestimated Perry as a candidate.

252 HappyWarrior  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:42:45pm

re: #250 Cannadian Club Akbar

He was very friendly. It was raining and he was telling people to get under the tent he was under to get out of the rain. Then the guy running the show walked up and said "15 minutes and you're good to go". Theisman said, "Na, I'll stick around a bit longer".

Yeah that's what my brothers have said. Nice guy. Former Redskins kicker Mark Moseley used to own a burger joint around here too and he was way cool. Unfortunately the burger place didn't do well but I hear he's doing franchising for Five Guys now so he's doing fine I am imagine considering how popular Five Guys is.

253 Digital Display  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:43:49pm

re: #251 HappyWarrior

Honest, I am still shocked that it was Santorum that gave Romney the best ride for his money. I totally overestimated Perry as a candidate.

There are three reasons Perry isn't the Nominee.
He was from Texas
He was as dumb as a box of rocks
errr I don't recall the third thing

254 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:44:44pm

re: #251 HappyWarrior

Honest, I am still shocked that it was Santorum that gave Romney the best ride for his money. I totally overestimated Perry as a candidate.

We all did. But I think one thing nobody thought about in the early days of the campaigning was that Romney was the only guy with a real game on the ground. Everybody else in the race was set up for the short game, packing money into the early races in the hopes that they could get a commanding lead and shut the competition down. Romney had his game set up for the long haul and it showed in places like Virginia, where Santorum and Gingrich couldn't even get on the ticket.

255 Kragar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:45:12pm

re: #235 prairiefire

Deep Purple playing "Hush" at the Playboy mansion ~

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Deep Purple Live with Ronnie James Dio - Smoke On The Water

Youtube Video
256 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:46:03pm

re: #251 HappyWarrior

Honest, I am still shocked that it was Santorum that gave Romney the best ride for his money. I totally overestimated Perry as a candidate.

If Perry could walk and chew gum at the same time, he would've trounced Romney. His oops moment is one of the great all-time classic debate blunders.

Youtube Video
257 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:46:04pm

re: #249 Targetpractice

Let's be honest, the GOP had to fulfill two diametrically opposed requirements in a nominee: A "true conservative" that didn't scare the ever-loving shit out of anybody with two-functioning brain cells. Once the also-rans had been weeded out, Romney was the only choice left. The party sees this as a failure to pick somebody who pleases the base. The rest of us see it as the reality that the GOP as a party is out of their gourds.

If the GOP had nominated someone to please the RWNJ base, President Obama could have been caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy (which would never happen, I know) and still win in a landslide in November.

The GOP "base" is fucking Looney Tunes and their enablers (people such as D_F) aren't doing themselves (or the rest of us) any favors.

258 Kronocide  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:46:13pm

Oh hell I wanted Perry to run. He was the epitome of AMERICAFUCKYEAHISTAN.

259 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:47:00pm

re: #241 jaunte

Maybe Scarborough is fantasizing that Santorum would have been more popular than Romney, or that Christie might have run.

I think he's smarter than that. Joe is just lamenting the fact that his party sucks now and that in order to sell themselves to the public they have to be inauthentic. Romney was chosen to be the face of that suck because he's inauthenticity personified. The only conservative values Romney actually embodies are abject selfism and consequence free greed. Scarborough isn't a social con and so for him conservatism is a brand more than an actual ideology, it's an abstract Reagan shaped blob discussed in nebulous terms that otherwise have no real concrete meaning.

260 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:47:00pm

re: #255 Kragar

Deep Purple Live with Ronnie James Dio - Smoke On The Water

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Rainbow-Man on the Silver Mountain

Youtube Video
261 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:48:02pm

re: #252 HappyWarrior

Yeah that's what my brothers have said. Nice guy. Former Redskins kicker Mark Moseley used to own a burger joint around here too and he was way cool. Unfortunately the burger place didn't do well but I hear he's doing franchising for Five Guys now so he's doing fine I am imagine considering how popular Five Guys is.

Five Guys...

*drool*

262 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:48:12pm

Okay just an utterly gorgeous monsoon flow sunset tonight in LA, My best angle was all full of powerlines so the Mt Wilson cam will have to do. Looks like those showers are right on the residual wildfire.

Image: towercam_Tstorm.jpg

263 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:48:48pm

re: #256 aagcobb

If Perry could walk and chew gum at the same time, he would've trounced Romney. His oops moment is one of the great all-time classic debate blunders.

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His "Oops moment" was the same kind we saw with Bachmann, the sorta people who haven't campaigned outside their comfort zones and so look like powerhouses until they start campaigning next to folks with the experience necessary to trip'em up.

264 Kragar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:49:14pm

re: #260 Cannadian Club Akbar

Rainbow-Man on the Silver Mountain

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Rainbow - Starstruck

Youtube Video
265 sagehen  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:49:49pm

re: #216 Kragar

NOM’s Brian Brown: Obama Will Impose Gay Marriage On All Of Us

So will every marriage in the US be annulled the moment Obama is elected or only after he gets sworn in? Is there a form we need to fill out about what we're looking for in a same sex spouse or do we just get assigned one?

So if Obama is personally accountable for, and assumed to support every single word of the D platform, why do Romney spokespeople insist it's unfair to hold him personally accountable or assume he supports all of the R platform?

266 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:50:43pm

re: #263 Targetpractice

His "Oops moment" was the same kind we saw with Bachmann, the sorta people who haven't campaigned outside their comfort zones and so look like powerhouses until they start campaigning next to folks with the experience necessary to trip'em up.

I believe I heard that Perry wouldn't debate in Texas gubernatorial races; and we got to see why.

267 Kragar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:51:22pm

re: #265 sagehen

So if Obama is personally accountable for, and assumed to support every single word of the D platform, why do Romney spokespeople insist it's unfair to hold him personally accountable or assume he supports all of the R platform?

Because shut up.

268 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:51:45pm

re: #265 sagehen

So if Obama is personally accountable for, and assumed to support every single word of the D platform, why do Romney spokespeople insist it's unfair to hold him personally accountable or assume he supports all of the R platform?

BECAUSE SHUT UP, THAT"S WHY!!!11ty

///

269 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:51:59pm

re: #267 Kragar

GMTA...

270 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:52:28pm

re: #231 Killgore Trout

Just in case Riene is lurking...
BBC - Mastercrafts - 4. Stained Glass

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Oooooh! I watched first few minutes; this is a must see for me! Thank you!

271 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:52:59pm

re: #270 reine.de.tout

Oooooh! I watched first few minutes; this is a must see for me! Thank you!

Yo!

272 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:53:47pm

re: #270 reine.de.tout

Wassup, reine?

273 bratwurst  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:54:01pm

Bad news: Todd Akin is polling slightly ahead in the Missouri senate race.

Good news: he and his campaign are still determined to find a way to beat themselves [Link: 2012.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

274 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:54:07pm

Oddly enough, I actually think that had Perry not screwed up so badly in the beginning, he might have gone farther. I'm convinced that a large part of Romney's problem is that he has virtually no charisma. He's not personable in any fashion outside his own social circle and it shows every time he's in public amongst the unwashed masses. A far more charismatic candidate, even if his policies were as vague and bland as Romney's, might actually have a chance to win.

275 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:54:44pm

re: #270 reine.de.tout

Hello from Los Angeles!

276 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:55:49pm

re: #270 reine.de.tout

Oooooh! I watched first few minutes; this is a must see for me! Thank you!

My wife's mom continues to thank me for the glass you made and that I gave to her. I think my wife's grandmother-- who lives across the street, is jealous.

I adore my stepmom. Your glass made her happy.

277 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:56:38pm

re: #274 Targetpractice

Oddly enough, I actually think that had Perry not screwed up so badly in the beginning, he might have gone farther. I'm convinced that a large part of Romney's problem is that he has virtually no charisma. He's not personable in any fashion outside his own social circle and it shows every time he's in public amongst the unwashed masses. A far more charismatic candidate, even if his policies were as vague and bland as Romney's, might actually have a chance to win.

Exhibit A, George Bush.

278 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:57:48pm

re: #271 Varek Raith

re: #272 Gert Fröbe

re: #275 Daniel Ballard

re: #276 Obdicut

Hola, everyone!

Obdi, glad to hear it!

279 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:58:47pm

re: #223 Cannadian Club Akbar

Seen 'em 4 times. Once with Twisted Sister as the opener. Once with Quiet Riot. Man, I used to be young.

Heh. Was listening to "Number of the Beast" earlier today and thinking I should sit down and listen to all three of that series of great albums sometime soon.

280 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 7:58:49pm

re: #277 aagcobb

Exhibit A, George Bush.

Well, George W. Bush is a friendly and personable man, and those who get to know him tend to like him. That's no small asset.

281 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:00:01pm

re: #277 aagcobb

Exhibit A, George Bush.

re: #280 Dark_Falcon

Well, George W. Bush is a friendly and personable man, and those who get to know him tend to like him. That's no small asset.

I think aagcobb may have been talking about Bush 41.

282 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:00:31pm

If Obama wins the GOP's back will be broken, even (especially) if they control both sides of congress. The conventional wisdom in the party will be that they didn't nominate someone conservative enough so the new game will be who can make the biggest, most treasonous ass of himself. They'll hold the debt ceiling hostage a couple more times, and S&P will bring the axe handle down on their heads, leaving them as stunned fish quivering in their death throws.

In 2016 they'll be facing a seasoned set of female Dems. If Hillary wants the nomination is probably hers, with DWS, Gilibrand, and Duckworth as potential VP choices. At that point the confluence of demographics and the issues will just roll over and smother the GOP like an avalanche.

No matter what it's going to be a close election, just because Obama is black and hasn't been able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again in four years. However if he wins we may be witnessing the end of the GOP as a viable national party.

283 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:00:48pm

Savannah St. beat the spread against Florida St.! They lost by only 55-0.

284 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:01:36pm

re: #280 Dark_Falcon

Well, George W. Bush is a friendly and personable man, and those who get to know him tend to like him. That's no small asset.

Exactly my point. If Romney had that, Obama would be in trouble.

285 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:01:47pm

re: #279 William Barnett-Lewis

Heh. Was listening to "Number of the Beast" earlier today and thinking I should sit down and listen to all three of that series of great albums sometime soon.

What is odd is the fact that I see kids wearing Iron Maiden shirts and I'm thinking "I was out of high skool before you were born".

286 prairiefire  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:02:42pm

Free "Alright Now" Isle Of Wight Festival 1970 ~

Youtube Video
287 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:02:51pm

re: #283 aagcobb

Savannah St. beat the spread against Florida St.! They lost by only 55-0.

70 1/2. A record.

288 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:03:07pm

re: #284 aagcobb

Exactly my point. If Romney had that, Obama would be in trouble.

Ahh, misunderstood you; thought you might have been referring to George H.W.'s aloofness with the common folks as a parallel to Romney.

289 Varek Raith  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:03:08pm

Off to bed I go.
Night all.

290 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:03:23pm

re: #216 Kragar

NOM’s Brian Brown: Obama Will Impose Gay Marriage On All Of Us

So will every marriage in the US be annulled the moment Obama is elected or only after he gets sworn in? Is there a form we need to fill out about what we're looking for in a same sex spouse or do we just get assigned one?

My husband announced that he want to marry Chris Kluwe, and is leaving me for him.

Kluwe is married, so maybe I can have his wife, and the boys can shack up together and play Warcraft.

291 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:03:59pm

re: #281 Gert Fröbe

re: #280 Dark_Falcon

I think aagcobb may have been talking about Bush 41.

No, I meant Dubya. He was the "candidate people wanted to have a beer with."

292 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:04:00pm

re: #270 reine.de.tout

Oooooh! I watched first few minutes; this is a must see for me! Thank you!

I thought it might be a bit elementary for you but it's a great series that I really enjoy. As a craftsman I like to watch people discovering a craft. It's also kind of interesting that the series concentrates on conservation. It might be something you might think of exploring. I'm sure there are folks around here in the states (although not many) who restore old glass in churches. You might think of seeking them out.
Anyways, I hope it gives you some inspiration.

293 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:04:43pm

re: #282 goddamnedfrank

Even I don't want to see DWS' name anywhere near the letter VP.

294 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:05:14pm

re: #284 aagcobb

Exactly my point. If Romney had that, Obama would be in trouble.

If Romney had that, the GOP very likely would be getting a lot more traction with the comparisons of him to Carter. As is, what they have now is a scenario where people are willing to cut Obama some slack just because he's running against a guy who personifies everything American's hate about Wall Street right now.

295 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:05:25pm

re: #280 Dark_Falcon

Hey, DF, had a laugh earlier today. Twas a silly bit about what president would be the best knifefighter (roll-eyes) but SFV made a crack about Nixon and backstabbing. I instantly thought of your D&D project and "Tricky Dick, 15th level Thief" flashed through my mind :D

296 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:05:35pm

re: #290 SanFranciscoZionist

My husband announced that he want to marry Chris Kluwe, and is leaving me for him.

Kluwe is married, so maybe I can have his wife, and the boys can shack up together and play Warcraft.

I'm tearing up over here.

297 Kragar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:05:48pm

re: #285 Cannadian Club Akbar

What is odd is the fact that I see kids wearing Iron Maiden shirts and I'm thinking "I was out of high skool before you were born".

Musicians today wish they could be even half as awesome as Maiden.

Iron Maiden - Paschendale

Youtube Video
298 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:05:49pm

re: #293 Mocking Jay

Even I don't want to see DWS' name anywhere near the letter VP.

Anderson Cooper (hearts) her.
///

299 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:06:58pm

re: #298 Cannadian Club Akbar

Anderson Cooper (hearts) her.
///

Yeah, you can't be party chair and not become an archetypal partisan hack. Comes with the territory.

300 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:07:09pm

re: #294 Targetpractice

If Romney had that, the GOP very likely would be getting a lot more traction with the comparisons of him to Carter. As is, what they have now is a scenario where people are willing to cut Obama some slack just because he's running against a guy who personifies everything American's hate about Wall Street right now.

Huckabee had it right when he said Romney was the candidate who reminded you of the boss who laid you off.

301 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:10:37pm

re: #292 Killgore Trout

I thought it might be a bit elementary for you but it's a great series that I really enjoy. As a craftsman I like to watch people discovering a craft. It's also kind of interesting that the series concentrates on conservation. It might be something you might think of exploring. I'm sure there are folks around here in the states (although not many) who restore old glass in churches. You might think of seeking them out.
Anyways, I hope it gives you some inspiration.

My father's church restored all of their glass recently. They had to have it dismantled by experts and shipped off to the Midwest somewhere. Cost a fortune, but it's beautiful now.

302 Mocking Jay  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:10:53pm

re: #300 aagcobb

Huckabee had it right when he said Romney was the candidate who reminded you of the boss who laid you off.

I think God totally screwed Huck when he told him not to run...

303 Targetpractice  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:12:25pm

re: #302 Mocking Jay

I think God totally screwed Huck when he told him not to run...

Considering God's calls this year, I'm of the opinion that he's a Democrat.

/

304 aagcobb  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:12:53pm

re: #302 Mocking Jay

I think God totally screwed Huck when he told him not to run...

I don't know, I think Huck's current gig is a lot better paying than President, and with a lot less stress. I think God did Huck a solid.

305 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:13:37pm

re: #299 Mocking Jay

Yeah, you can't be party chair and not become an archetypal partisan hack. Comes with the territory.

Anderson's also a sell out. The only problem with DWS is that she's a strong woman who doesn't back down to bullshit, and idiots view that as bitchy.

306 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:14:12pm

re: #305 goddamnedfrank

Anderson's also a sell out. The only problem with DWS is that she's a strong woman who doesn't back down to bullshit, and idiots view that as bitchy.

And she lies. But, whatever.

307 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:14:55pm

re: #306 Cannadian Club Akbar

And she lies. But, whatever.

I mean, taken out of context. My bad.
/

308 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:15:08pm

re: #293 Mocking Jay

Even I don't want to see DWS' name anywhere near the letter VP.

But Duckworth, OTOH, needs to be on greased rails to the top job.

309 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:16:37pm

re: #270 reine.de.tout

Good to see you back.

But, at this time, the IF rule applies. To many beers.

Best wishes to you and yours.

Night Lizards.

310 Digital Display  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:16:57pm

re: #278 reine.de.tout

Hi You! Hope you are well..
( Finally College football is back )

311 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:17:17pm

re: #301 SanFranciscoZionist

My father's church restored all of their glass recently. They had to have it dismantled by experts and shipped off to the Midwest somewhere. Cost a fortune, but it's beautiful now.

Oy, that's an expense when it comes up. My old parish in Madison had their Tiffany window redone not that long ago as well as the one they imported from England before that. Scary expensive but such a glory when done...

312 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:17:44pm

re: #292 Killgore Trout

I thought it might be a bit elementary for you but it's a great series that I really enjoy. As a craftsman I like to watch people discovering a craft. It's also kind of interesting that the series concentrates on conservation. It might be something you might think of exploring. I'm sure there are folks around here in the states (although not many) who restore old glass in churches. You might think of seeking them out.
Anyways, I hope it gives you some inspiration.

The shop where I buy my glass does church glass restorations; there are a couple here that do that. I don't have sufficient workspace for those projects, they are usually HUGE pieces. I do, however, have projects in which old pieces of glass, broken plates, or even whole small plates, can be used, and I have in my possession several small plates, rescued over time from "junk" shops.

I have this video saved to watch in a few minutes when I get settled down for the evening; can't wait to see it.

313 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:18:00pm

re: #295 William Barnett-Lewis

Hey, DF, had a laugh earlier today. Twas a silly bit about what president would be the best knifefighter (roll-eyes) but SFV made a crack about Nixon and backstabbing. I instantly thought of your D&D project and "Tricky Dick, 15th level Thief" flashed through my mind :D

It's actually a very easy question to answer;

Best President overall as a knife-fighter: Andrew Jackson. Brutal, aggressive, and possessed of a strong killer instinct, Andrew Jackson was just plain deadly. Very few would want to face him in a knife fight, as he had speed and strength and had a good knife with him where ever he went.

2nd Best and best of all 20th Century Presidents as a bladesman: Teddy Roosevelt. A better natured fellow than Jackson, but still strong, smart, utterly resolute, and very skilled with a blade. TR had dealt with knifemen when he was a rancher, and later as head of the NYPD. Another guy you seriously would not want to mess with at close quarters.

314 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:18:33pm

re: #310 Digital Display

Hi You! Hope you are well..
( Finally College football is back )

heh. Yep. Just finished watching LSU game. And UL-Monroe beat Arkansas! geez.

315 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:18:58pm

re: #306 Cannadian Club Akbar

And she lies. But, whatever.

I don't see you offering specifics. Weak.

316 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:19:44pm

re: #309 Bubblehead II

Good to see you back.

But, at this time, the IF rule applies. To many beers.

Best wishes to you and yours.

Night Lizards.

Heh. Wonder how many here actually knows what this means.

317 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:20:08pm

re: #308 William Barnett-Lewis

But Duckworth, OTOH, needs to be on greased rails to the top job.

We'll see. First she needs to win an elected office and then prove herself in it. We'll see if she does that.

318 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:20:30pm

re: #316 Cannadian Club Akbar

Heh. Wonder how many here actually knows what this means.

I recall. Saw a few posts, back in the day, when IF should have applied the IF rule to himself, but didn't.

319 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:21:23pm

re: #315 goddamnedfrank

I don't see you offering specifics. Weak.

[Link: www.politico.com...]
Oh, and remember when she beat the "Mittens likes to fire people" bullshit? No different than the Repubs taking the "you didn't build that" bullshit out of context. You're a hack.

320 bratwurst  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:21:45pm

re: #317 Dark_Falcon

We'll see. First she needs to win an elected office and then prove herself in it. We'll see if she does that.

Is it safe to assume you and yours have kept to your pledge not to support America's most prominent deadbeat dad in that race?

321 Digital Display  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:22:02pm

re: #314 reine.de.tout

heh. Yep. Just finished watching LSU game. And UL-Monroe beat Arkansas! geez.

Arkansas is going to have issues this year.
Everybody is pissed off here in Oklahoma tonight.. They made the game pay per view tonight. An effen College football game is on pay per view?

322 Digital Display  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:23:47pm

Iron Fist never made a rule about pain pills..So I'm good to go.
I feel wonderful...:)

323 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:24:09pm

re: #320 bratwurst

Is it safe to assume you and yours have kept to your pledge not to support America's most prominent deadbeat dad in that race?

I kept my end of the bargain. My father ended up giving Walsh some money; in his view holding the seat for the GOP is more important than the character of the man in the seat.

324 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:25:05pm

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

I kept my end of the bargain. My father ended up giving Walsh some money; in his view holding the seat for the GOP is more important than the character of the man in the seat.

I did argue the point with my dad, but he remains steadfast in his conclusion.

325 bratwurst  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:27:14pm

re: #324 Dark_Falcon

I did argue the point with my dad, but he remains steadfast in his conclusion.

I admire that you did that, but this is a classic example of why Congress is such a cesspool.

326 prairiefire  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:28:12pm

re: #315 goddamnedfrank

I don't see you offering specifics. Weak.

I think she's awesome.

327 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:31:18pm

re: #319 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: www.politico.com...]
Oh, and remember when she beat the "Mittens likes to fire people" bullshit? No different than the Repubs taking the "you didn't build that" bullshit out of context. You're a hack.

Yep, Anderson fact checking his own incorrect inferences. The changes Mitt's people were voting down were offered by Ron Paul's people and had nothing to do with the party's stance on abortion, which Schultz was referring to. The preceding portion of the paragraph that Cooper leaves out: "There is no doubt about who is in charge, of course." Anderson is a total hack. Try again.

328 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:33:04pm

re: #325 bratwurst

I admire that you did that, but this is a classic example of why Congress is such a cesspool.

I id manage to make my point, though. My father had me handle his donations online. Walsh's site allows you to post a comment when you donate. The one I posted ended with "but your treatment of Tammy Duckworth was appalling. Be a better man."

329 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:33:56pm

re: #313 Dark_Falcon

It's actually a very easy question to answer;

Best President overall as a knife-fighter: Andrew Jackson. Brutal, aggressive, and possessed of a strong killer instinct, Andrew Jackson was just plain deadly. Very few would want to face him in a knife fight, as he had speed and strength and had a good knife with him where ever he went.

2nd Best and best of all 20th Century Presidents as a bladesman: Teddy Roosevelt. A better natured fellow than Jackson, but still strong, smart, utterly resolute, and very skilled with a blade. TR had dealt with knifemen when he was a rancher, and later as head of the NYPD. Another guy you seriously would not want to mess with at close quarters.

Like most moderns you're forgetting Tippecanoe and Tyler. Harrison was at knife fighting distance at least twice and survived. Both fought in the Northwest Territories when that was serious wilderness.

330 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:34:39pm

re: #317 Dark_Falcon

We'll see. First she needs to win an elected office and then prove herself in it. We'll see if she does that.

She's already proven she's better than Walsh... ;)

331 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:36:11pm

re: #329 William Barnett-Lewis

Like most moderns you're forgetting Tippecanoe and Tyler. Harrison was at knife fighting distance at least twice and survived. Both fought in the Northwest Territories when that was serious wilderness.

Well, those two both ended up in the "Chorus of Mediocre Presidents", so it is easy to forget them. :D

And even allowing one of them the number 2 spot, it's impossible not to place Jackson at number 1.

332 Lidane  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:52:33pm

re: #258 Kronocide

Oh hell I wanted Perry to run. He was the epitome of AMERICAFUCKYEAHISTAN.

I wanted Perry to run because it would get him the hell out of Texas for a while. Heh.

333 Lidane  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:56:53pm

re: #294 Targetpractice

As is, what they have now is a scenario where people are willing to cut Obama some slack just because he's running against a guy who personifies everything American's hate about Wall Street right now.

YES. THIS.

Mitt Romney is the living embodiment of the smarmy asshole CEO that fired you, outsourced your job, then got a cushy bonus for his efforts.

334 wheat-dogg  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 9:46:08pm

re: #65 Decatur Deb

Just sync your iPad to the kid's Mac, and Bob's your uncle.

I am wearing my ESL teacher hat now. "Bob's your uncle" is a great idiom, but it's more common in Britain. No one seems to know where it came from, though.

Think I'll give it to my students this week and see if they can figure out the meaning from context.

335 wheat-dogg  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 10:02:21pm

re: #213 Cannadian Club Akbar

I am not a number. I am a free man!!

You are Number 6.

336 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 10:06:05pm

Re: the conspiracy... I'm not seeing the problem. As a religious person I didn't want it on there, and as an atheist now I want it on there even less. Frankly I'm operating on the new principle of, "If the religious right is against (x), I'm probably in favor of (x)". They're a weathervane to tell me which side is wrong. :P

What is "He who has the gold makes the rules" translated into Latin? That would be a pretty spiffy motto for the coinage of the planned Republireich.

337 ozbloke  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 10:20:14pm

re: #270 reine.de.tout

Oooooh! I watched first few minutes; this is a must see for me! Thank you!

Greetings from downunder, nice to see you Reine

338 wheat-dogg  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 10:53:36pm

re: #336 Pawn of the Oppressor

Re: the conspiracy... I'm not seeing the problem. As a religious person I didn't want it on there, and as an atheist now I want it on there even less. Frankly I'm operating on the new principle of, "If the religious right is against (x), I'm probably in favor of (x)". They're a weathervane to tell me which side is wrong. :P

What is "He who has the gold makes the rules" translated into Latin? That would be a pretty spiffy motto for the coinage of the planned Republireich.

Ille qui habet aurum facit regulas. -- so sayeth Google Translate

339 Tigger2005  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 1:25:43am

re: #191 Digital Display

Voter ID laws.. I can see both sides on this. There must be a solution that protects the integrity of voting..
I was living in Indiana when the Voter ID was upheld. But Indiana made damn sure if you didn't have an ID you could get one and if you are poor It's free. I like solutions based ideas that benefit all of us.

You can "see both sides of this"? Do you really think the (R) side is genuinely interested in a solution that "protects the integrity of voting"?

340 SpikeDad  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 5:07:58pm

Sorry it's a disgrace that US money has any reference to god. Besides the fact that it's stupid to think there is a god it's not appropriate for a secular society like the US.

As usual, the Dems have not a single ball amongst themselves.


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