The Associated Press tweets:
BREAKING: Newark, NJ, Mayor Cory Booker wins Democratic primary in special US Senate election
— The Associated Press (@AP) August 14, 2013
Glenn Greenwald endorsed Booker’s opponent, Rush Holt, saying that the NSA issue would determine the special election, so Glenn will be sad.
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Justanotherhuman Tue, Aug 13, 2013 5:56:45pm |
I loves it when Glennlandia haz a sad…but wait! It will soon turn to snarky outrage.
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 5:59:50pm |
Cory Booker wins Democratic primary in special US Senate election. Emoprogs and dudebros all across America break into a rage. Film @ 11.— Gus (@Gus_802) August 14, 2013
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PhillyPretzel Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:03:00pm |
Glenn does not speak for the voters. The voters speak for themselves. He had better get used to that.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:03:18pm |
re: #1 Justanotherhuman
I loves it when Glennlandia haz a sad…but wait! It will soon turn to snarky outrage.
Inevitably.
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Targetpractice Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:03:28pm |
Well, I’d say that it’s pretty good odds now that Booker is NJ’s next senator.
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Justanotherhuman Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:04:06pm |
Bill de Blasio said to be leading in NYC Dem race for mayor
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Decatur Deb Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:06:04pm |
re: #7 Justanotherhuman
Bill de Blasio said to be leading in NYC Dem race for mayor
Close. He could still lose by a weiner.
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wrenchwench Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:07:14pm |
A new study published Monday by the University of New Mexico confirmed that the name of the Washington Redskins is only offensive if you take any amount of time whatsoever to think about its actual meaning. “When you hear or say ‘Redskins’ in the abstract, it’s completely harmless, but we’ve discovered that if you briefly pause to remember it’s a racial slur for an indigenous group wiped out by genocide over the course of a few centuries, then, yeah, it’s awful,” said lead researcher Lawrence Wagner,
[…]
Hat tip and link:
Washington Racist Fucks http://t.co/QJismQFiqZ - lovin' @TheOnion— Whiteskins.Org (@WhiteskinsOrg) August 14, 2013
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Justanotherhuman Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:08:10pm |
re: #8 Decatur Deb
Close. He could still lose by a weiner.
It’s just a matter of time before Weiner collapses—he’s allegedly in 4th place now, but he probably still has money to spend. That should dry up soon, though.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:08:17pm |
This is a good thing. Cory Booker is really smart, pro-science, forward thinking, not prone to self-aggrandizing exaggerations, a very good Democratic candidate.
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b.d. Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:08:28pm |
Holt came in 3rd, in spite of or because of Glenn appearing at his town hall meeting?
Pallone would have been my choice if that was my state.
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darthstar Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:13:01pm |
Too bad Christie was afraid to have both elections on the same day…would have been fun to see him in a tight race.
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dog philosopher Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:14:38pm |
i only hope the city of newark is able to continue its revival without his personal day-to-day attentions
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simoom Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:16:38pm |
Greenwald said that the government would be unwise to arrest them, because of the bad publicity it would create. It also wouldn’t stop the flow of information.
…
Greenwald said, half-jokingly, that if he was arrested, WikiLeaks would become the new traffic cop for publishing N.S.A. documents. “I would just say: ‘O.K., let me introduce you to my friend Julian Assange, who’s going to take my place. Have fun dealing with him.’ “
…
He laughed and pointed out that unfortunately, the government does not always take the smartest course of action. “If they were smart,” he said, “I would do it.”
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Justanotherhuman Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:17:10pm |
This is funny, since Snowjob was only 18 in 2001 and probably still playing video games 24/7:
Dan Froomkin @froomkin 13h
Snowden: “After 9/11, many of the most important news outlets in America abdicated their role as a check to power” nytimes.com …
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Irving Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:17:17pm |
re: #11 Charles Johnson
This is a good thing. Cory Booker is really smart, pro-science, forward thinking, not prone to self-aggrandizing exaggerations, a very good Democratic candidate.
…and the fact that’s he’s practically a freakin’ superhero doesn’t hurt either. I had read somewhere that his election strategy revolved around rescuing anything that wasn’t nailed to the floor.
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austin_blue Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:17:47pm |
Like the quickly receding Edward Snowden, who is being sucked into a Dacha-shaped black hole in the news cycle, The GG has backed another losing horse.
While the reality-based community knew that Booker was fundamentally unbeatable in this race, The GG slogged on toward the inevitability of irrelevancy.
As penance, The GG should publicly get on all fours and lick a dog’s ass until it bleeds, such that he provides some parting entertainment as he fades and disappears from a public who is quickly losing interest in someone so shallow and vain and petty.
Thus speaketh the chortling a_b.
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Targetpractice Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:19:41pm |
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Kragar Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:20:59pm |
CNN puts hate group leader on TV and he predictably insults transgender man
Randy Thomasson, the head of a group that opposes LGBT rights, made sure to insult a transgender man after being invited on television by CNN.
“Thomasson’s attempt to disrespect my own gender identity by referring to me as a ‘lady’ said more about him than me (I’m no lady, and clearly he is no gentleman),” Masen Davis, the Executive Director of the Transgender Law Center, told Raw Story. “I am comfortable in my own skin, and proud of my journey as a transgender man. I have heard, though, from many transgender people and allies who are very upset by his shallow attempt to mis-gender me. Failing to honor the gender identity of a transgender person is a common way for anti-equality zealots to try to undermine our credibility and humanity.”
Thomasson, the president of SaveCalifornia.com, appeared alongside Davis on CNN Tuesday afternoon to discuss California’s new transgender student rights law.
Thomasson claimed that “sexual indoctrination laws” in California endangered children and that transgender individuals were simply confused. As CNN host Brooke Baldwin was wrapping up the debate, Thomasson drove his point home by remarking, “Hey, good to talk to you ladies.”
Media Matters reported that Thomasson had a history of making inflammatory statements on LGBT issues. The Southern Poverty Law Center considers SaveCalifornia.com to be a hate group.
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simoom Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:21:11pm |
re: #15 simoom
Here’s the part where Greenwald became a hero to the Brazilian people
(//):
As dusk fell one evening, I followed Poitras and Greenwald to the newsroom of O Globo, one of the largest newspapers in Brazil. Greenwald had just published an article there detailing how the N.S.A. was spying on Brazilian phone calls and e-mails. The article caused a huge scandal in Brazil, as similar articles have done in other countries around the world, and Greenwald was a celebrity in the newsroom. The editor in chief pumped his hand and asked him to write a regular column; reporters took souvenir pictures with their cellphones. Poitras filmed some of this, then put her camera down and looked on. I noted that nobody was paying attention to her, that all eyes were on Greenwald, and she smiled. “That’s right,” she said. “That’s perfect.”
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:22:34pm |
re: #11 Charles Johnson
I’m a big fan of Booker, as is my wife. It’s one of the few politicians that we both agree upon. He’s going to be great for the state, which not only needs someone knowledgeable about the issues, but someone who can cheer lead for the state and make sure that the state’s needs are addressed. And he’s going to likely focus on poverty, income inequality, and those are important. I hope he can focus on making sure that the state gets needed infrastructure funding as well - helping cities like Newark upgrade and modernize their water distribution systems, power and utilities, as well as mass transit - all needed to improve competitiveness and mobility. He’s also likely to push for better school access, including vouchers as a way to get schools to improve.
Oh, and the primary today wasn’t even close.
Booker had 57% of the vote in a 4 way election. Holt had 13% at last count, well behind Pallone, but ahead of Oliver.
Holt and Pallone are effective members of Congress, but not in the same league as Booker in charisma and the ability to get people engaged.
On the other side, Lonegan won.
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wrenchwench Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:24:22pm |
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Justanotherhuman Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:26:03pm |
re: #15 simoom
What’s GG saying here? That he is just Wikileaks’ PR guy these days? What does that make Snowjob?
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Targetpractice Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:26:27pm |
re: #24 Justanotherhuman
What’s GG saying here? That he is just Wikileaks’ PR guy these days? What does that make Snowjob?
A liability.
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:26:53pm |
Oh, and Greenwald’s predictive ability is about as strong as his reading comprehension of the NSA slides he’s reported upon. Couldn’t understand that Booker was the presumptive and overwhelming favorite. Couldn’t understand that Booker’s GOTV was superior to those of everyone else in the race. Couldn’t understand that Booker’s combination of intelligence, knowledge about the issues, and ability to relate to folks along with tremendous charisma made him the guy to beat (and he never was behind in any polling in the race - in fact, he was always double digits ahead).
Greenwald engaged in a whole lot of wishful thinking that his support of Holt would change the race. I actually think his endorsement of Holt was as much to keep Greenwald’s name in things as it was in backing Holt on the issues.
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:29:56pm |
!
Up shortly on the CBS LiveFeed, we are expecting a U.S. Senate Republican candidate Cory Booker Campaign speech.— CBS Live Feed Update (@newspathweb) August 14, 2013
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freetoken Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:31:08pm |
Lots of Booker-hate spilling in now. Who knew the woodwork could hold so many creatures?
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PhillyPretzel Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:32:33pm |
re: #27 Gus
I thought Booker was the Democratic candidate. Is someone trying to make something out of nothing? /
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darthstar Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:32:46pm |
I hear @CoryBooker won his primary while delivering a baby in a burning helicopter. Congratulations, Mayor.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) August 14, 2013
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thatthatisis Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:33:52pm |
I will sound a contrary note here. I plan to vote for Booker against the strange Mr. Lonegan, who’s really, really out there. I am willing to keep an open mind and be happy if Booker does a good job in the Senate.
However, I don’t like Booker at all. He is a big bag of hot air. His major accomplishments have been to be a very successful twitter writer. For me, the essence of Mayor Booker was the rescue of the freezing dog last winter. Mayor Booker showed up to rescue the poor dog. But did he immediately bundle the shivering dog into a police car to get warm and safe? Yes, you say? The obvious thing to do if you’re rescuing a freezing dog would be to….. get it warm?
Oh, please. Let’s get real. This is Cory Booker. So he pulled the dog off the stoop where it was, and stuck the poor thing in the snow so he could get a good picture for his twitter account. Only then, when he got a tweet off with the picture of the shivering dog in the snow, did he let the poor animal get warm.
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:36:33pm |
And this is another reason Booker will be good for the state.
He’s got a good personal relationship with Gov. Christie - something sorely lacking in the relationship between Christie and Menendez and Lautenberg. While they put aside their differences in trying to secure aid after Sandy, it poisoned the relationships and kept everyone from getting more aid and more federal aid flowing to the state.
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simoom Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:37:10pm |
re: #21 simoom
Here’s where Greenwald & Poitras broadcast that their agenda:
The Snowden story, they both said, was a battle they were waging together, a fight against powers of surveillance that they both believe are a threat to fundamental American liberties.
“It’s an incredible emotional experience,” she said, “to be contacted by a complete stranger saying that he was going to risk his life to expose things the public should know. He was putting his life on the line and trusting me with that burden. My experience and relationship to that is something that I want to retain an emotional relation to.” Her connection to him and the material, she said, is what will guide her work. “I am sympathetic to what he sees as the horror of the world [and] what he imagines could come. I want to communicate that with as much resonance as possible.”
Poitras, while not nearly as confrontational as Greenwald, disagrees with the suggestion that their work amounts to advocacy by partisan reporters. “Yes, I have opinions,” she told me. “Do I think the surveillance state is out of control? Yes, I do. This is scary, and people should be scared. A shadow and secret government has grown and grown, all in the name of national security and without the oversight or national debate that one would think a democracy would have. It’s not advocacy. We have documents that substantiate it.”
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geoffm33 Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:38:48pm |
re: #27 Gus
@newspathweb Ahhhhh…..errrrrrr…..ummmmmm— Geoff M. (@geoffm33) August 14, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:39:04pm |
re: #35 simoom
Here’s where Greenwald & Poitras broadcast that their agenda:
DUDEBROS & EMOPROGS QUIVER IN FEAR!!!1
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geoffm33 Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:39:35pm |
re: #30 darthstar
This tweet needs more love….I only have 1 retweet and upding to give however.
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simoom Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:40:27pm |
re: #35 simoom
Here’s where Greenwald becomes intoxicated with new-found power:
Poitras, sitting 20 rows behind Greenwald, occasionally went forward to talk about what he was reading. As the man sitting next to him slept, Greenwald pointed to the FISA order on his screen and asked Poitras: “Have you seen this? Is this saying what I’m thinking it’s saying?”
At times, they talked so animatedly that they disturbed passengers who were trying to sleep; they quieted down. “We couldn’t believe just how momentous this occasion was,” Greenwald said. “When you read these documents, you get a sense of the breadth of them. It was a rush of adrenaline and ecstasy and elation. You feel you are empowered for the first time because there’s this mammoth system that you try and undermine and subvert and shine a light on — but you usually can’t make any headway, because you don’t have any instruments to do it — [and now] the instruments were suddenly in our lap.”
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:41:05pm |
re: #31 thatthatisis
Booker overcame the Sharpe James political machine and not only ended up winning a seat on the city council, but perservered and ended up winning the mayor against James’ handpicked successor. He then got his own slate of candidate onto the city council to help with his agenda in reinvigorating the city.
There’s a lot of work still to be done, but there’s a change in how the city sees itself, and there’s pride where there was once shame and ridicule.
Businesses are starting to come back to Newark, and getting the Prudential Center built helps in some respects. The next step will be building up around the arena and that’s on his agenda.
Crime rates are down since he first took office, but there’s still a way to go.
And the tweets do quite a bit in getting local businesses noticed and encouraging people to visit - whether for a sports event or the Newark Museum (which has an eclectic and interesting collection).
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thatthatisis Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:44:23pm |
For those looking for a citation about Booker and the dog, I’m afraid I don’t know how to embed. Just google “Booker saves dog”. The pictures the press took (he waiting to save the dog until the press arrived) as they interviewed Booker tell the story. Does the dog look like he’s being put into a warm car? Or do the pictures look more like Booker is holding the dog out in the cold while talking to the press with a concerned look on his face?
I will also be honest and admit that I was upset with Booker for his appearance on Meet The Press (I think it was MTP) when he criticized President Obama while he was an official spokesman for candidate Obama. I thought that was particularly opportunistic to get on the show as an Obama spokesman and use the visibility to further his own political career.
Go ahead and down rate me. I am only speaking my opinion and backing it up with reasons. How horrible of me.
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simoom Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:45:07pm |
re: #39 simoom
On the questions Poitras won’t answer:
Greenwald installed encryption software and began communicating with the stranger. Their work was organized like an intelligence operation, with Poitras as the mastermind. “Operational security — she dictated all of that,” Greenwald said. “Which computers I used, how I communicated, how I safeguarded the information, where copies were kept, with whom they were kept, in which places. She has this complete expert level of understanding of how to do a story like this with total technical and operational safety. None of this would have happened with anything near the efficacy and impact it did, had she not been working with me in every sense and really taking the lead in coordinating most of it.”
Snowden began to provide documents to the two of them. Poitras wouldn’t tell me when he began sending her documents; she does not want to provide the government with information that could be used in a trial against Snowden or herself.
There were a number of subjects that Poitras declined to discuss with me on the record and others she wouldn’t discuss at all — some for security and legal reasons, others because she wants to be the first to tell crucial parts of her story in her own documentary.
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geoffm33 Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:46:08pm |
re: #41 thatthatisis
Just click the little pencil icon in your last post. Then paste the URL at the bottom of the text box.
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Interesting Times Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:46:19pm |
re: #33 erik_t
Sorry, but [citation needed].
To be fair, CL (who lives in NJ) has also mentioned Cory Booker’s reputation for self-aggrandizement (though I don’t recall her ever discussing any dog incident)
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erik_t Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:46:29pm |
re: #41 thatthatisis
Go ahead and down rate me. I am only speaking my opinion and backing it up with reasons. How horrible of me.
Well, no, you’re not.
You made the claim, you can figure out how to post a link.
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Kragar Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:46:59pm |
I’ve written up to a key point in my story and now I’m vaporlocking on moving ahead.
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ssn697 Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:48:08pm |
Greenwald aside, I too would have preferred Holt. Science, education and fact based decision maker. Just not the star power…
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simoom Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:48:09pm |
re: #42 simoom
On Greenwald’s & Poitras’ own Wikileaks-like operation:
When The Guardian didn’t move as quickly as they wanted with the first article on Verizon, Greenwald discussed taking it elsewhere, sending an encrypted draft to a colleague at another publication. He also considered creating a Web site on which they would publish everything, which he planned to call NSADisclosures. In the end, The Guardian moved ahead with their articles. But Poitras and Greenwald have created their own publishing network as well, placing articles with other outlets in Germany and Brazil and planning more for the future. They have not shared the full set of documents with anyone.
“We are in partnership with news organizations, but we feel our primary responsibility is to the risk the source took and to the public interest of the information he has provided,” Poitras said.
A new generation of sources, like Snowden or Pfc. Bradley Manning, has access to not just a few secrets but thousands of them, because of their ability to scrape classified networks. They do not necessarily live in and operate through the established Washington networks — Snowden was in Hawaii, and Manning sent hundreds of thousands of documents to WikiLeaks from a base in Iraq. And they share their secrets not with the largest media outlets or reporters but with the ones who share their political outlook and have the know-how to receive the leaks undetected.
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Targetpractice Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:48:51pm |
re: #46 Kragar
I’ve written up to a key point in my story and now I’m vaporlocking on moving ahead.
“My advice is to start drinking heavily.”
//
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:50:34pm |
re: #41 thatthatisis
Booker and the dog rescues, and other assorted tidbits.
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AlexRogan Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:53:38pm |
re: #48 simoom
On Greenwald’s & Poitras’ own Wikileaks-like operation:
Greenwald and Poitras don’t give a shit about righting any perceived wrongs by the US government, it’s all about pushing their own political agendas and thirst for fame above all, something that anyone with half a brain figured out long ago:
And they share their secrets not with the largest media outlets or reporters but with the ones who share their political outlook and have the know-how to receive the leaks undetected.
My surprise, let me show it.
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Joanne Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:54:03pm |
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Randall Gross Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:57:50pm |
re: #50 lawhawk
Booker and the dog rescues, and other assorted tidbits.
The Daily Beast seems to run a lot of snarky hit pieces for hire like the one on Wendy Davis, etc, lately.
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geoffm33 Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:58:43pm |
re: #50 lawhawk
Already a legend, a superhero, and a meme, Booker thought to himself, “Mayor, how could you be even more infallible in the eyes of your constituents—nay, the eyes of the nation?” The answer was clear: rescue a freezing dog. Booker responded to a tweet Thursday night from a concerned citizen who called authorities to rescue a dog named Cha Cha who was left outside in sub-zero temperatures. “I’ll head up myself & investigate,” Booker responded. And he did, saving the day—and the dog.
If you follow @corybooker on twitter he responds to nearly every tweet by DM’ing the constituent his phone number to get more info about requests/concerns, etc. Pretty remarkable actually. Does not surprise me in the least he was on the scene for a report of an abandoned/neglected dog.
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thatthatisis Tue, Aug 13, 2013 6:59:06pm |
re: #40 lawhawk
It also bears noting that Booker defeated the James machine at least in part because James was being indicted by the feds for felony crime. He subsequently was tried, convicted and sent to prison.
Lawhawk, you have valid reasons for supporting him, and I respect that. There are many people who have valid reasons for supporting Booker. I will vote for him for senator, and hope that he turns me into an enthusiastic supporter as well.
As for now, I have given the reasons I didn’t support him.
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Justanotherhuman Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:00:17pm |
re: #42 simoom
I don’t think when she received the docs is that important in the scheme of things, since Snowald has admitted he talked with her in Feb 2013, as well as GG, and didn’t go to work for the NSA until sometime in March under their guidance, more than likely.
So, it appears to me to be a fairly clear-cut case of conspiracy.
But, in subsequent reports, it is made to appear that that it was a “surprise” when they received the stolen material.
What would be important is how many times he actually sent her documents. Right now, he’s facing 3 felony charges; with that kind of information, it could be far more, if he was sending it to her in bits and pieces, which is probably the case, since it would have taken some time to locate them within the NSA, steal them, and get them encrypted in emails.
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dog philosopher Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:01:02pm |
re: #36 geoffm33
[Embedded content]
well, the democratic cory booker will speak after the republican cory booker ya see
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Joanne Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:01:54pm |
re: #57 thatthatisis
Not supporting someone is your call. But your reasons seem unfounded. At least that’s what Google showed me.
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:03:02pm |
re: #56 geoffm33
I’ve had Booker respond to my own tweets - in one instance asking for restaurants to try in the Ironbound. He got his followers to provide multiple options, and he suggested Nastos for dessert - ice cream.
He doesn’t have to do that, but he sees value in getting people excited about the state and using new media to help.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:04:10pm |
re: #48 simoom
On Greenwald’s & Poitras’ own Wikileaks-like operation:
No one has seen Snowden since the day he left the airport, and no one saw him while he was in the airport.
I’m going to say that the alleged “interviews” given through GG & LP were not from Snowden at all, but from some FSB operative.
Who even knows where Snowden is now? He is in LeeHarveyOswaldland, in Minsk or Pinsk or Stinks, mopping floors and scrubbing toilets in some shitty electronics parts factory, living in a dump. What a chump.
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thatthatisis Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:04:50pm |
erik t, I said I gave my reasons, and you said I didn’t. Um, I suggest you look up the definition of the word “reasons”. I gave my reasons. Proofs require citations. Reasons are why I hold a certain belief.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:06:34pm |
Though Oswald had wanted to attend Moscow University, he was sent to Minsk to work as a lathe operator at the Gorizont Electronics Factory, which produced radios, televisions, and military and space electronics. Stanislau Shushkevich, who later became independent Belarus’s first head of state, was also engaged by Gorizont at the time, and was assigned to teach Oswald Russian. Oswald received a government subsidized, fully furnished studio apartment in a prestigious building and an additional supplement to his factory pay—all in all, an idyllic existence by working-class Soviet standards, though he was kept under constant surveillance.
But Oswald grew bored in Minsk. He wrote in his diary in January 1961: “I am starting to reconsider my desire about staying. The work is drab, the money I get has nowhere to be spent. No nightclubs or bowling alleys, no places of recreation except the trade union dances. I have had enough.” Shortly afterwards, Oswald (who had never formally renounced his U.S. citizenship) wrote to the U.S. Embassy in Moscow requesting return of his American passport, and proposing to return to the U.S. if any charges against him would be dropped.
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thatthatisis Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:09:24pm |
re: #60 Joanne
I have no idea why the pictures of the dog aren’t coming up when you google. Can’t answer that.
Do you remember all the chatter after Booker’s appears on MTP? He lost a lot of support after that, I wasn’t the only one, but we were in the minority, and he still kept his large group of supporters.
We shall see. I will be happy if he turns out to be a good senator.
Personally I think there’s something in the water here in NJ. We have a governor who is just as opportunistic.
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erik_t Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:09:32pm |
re: #63 thatthatisis
erik t, I said I gave my reasons, and you said I didn’t. Um, I suggest you look up the definition of the word “reasons”. I gave my reasons. Proofs require citations. Reasons are why I hold a certain belief.
In other words, you can’t substantiate anything you’ve claimed.
‘Round these here parts, I think that’s sort of looked upon with a dubious eye.
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:09:35pm |
No doubt that Silicon Valley & Wall St millionaires celebrating @CoryBooker's win tonight. They got another of their loyalists in the Senate— David Sirota (@davidsirota) August 14, 2013
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:10:18pm |
Don’t tell Sirota but Salon is helped along with cash flow from a Silicon Vally millionaire.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:10:38pm |
re: #67 Gus
[Embedded content]
I was not aware that Silicon Valley and Wall Street were located in New Jersey. When did that little geographic trick happen?
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:11:06pm |
re: #69 Vicious Babushka
I was not aware that Silicon Valley and Wall Street were located in New Jersey. When did that little geographic trick happen?
IT MUST BE DA MOB!!!1!!
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Joanne Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:12:53pm |
re: #65 thatthatisis
So you’re saying Booker should be lockstep with whomever the dem in power is? That’s Boehner/McConnell territory. No, I wasn’t happy with it, but I’d rather someone speaks his/her mind than just go along to simply go along. That doesn’t serve the American people at all.
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:13:18pm |
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geoffm33 Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:13:39pm |
re: #61 lawhawk
I’ve had Booker respond to my own tweets - in one instance asking for restaurants to try in the Ironbound. He got his followers to provide multiple options, and he suggested Nastos for dessert - ice cream.
He doesn’t have to do that, but he sees value in getting people excited about the state and using new media to help.
Exactly this. We have a mayoral candidate right now in Boston (John Connolly) that has similar skills.
In reality, twitter is no different than the office phone/answering service. For now, those that embrace that concept will win.
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Joanne Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:14:53pm |
re: #69 Vicious Babushka
I was not aware that Silicon Valley and Wall Street were located in New Jersey. When did that little geographic trick happen?
Not to mention that our economy requires businesses. Not bad players, but all businesses are a bad players.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:15:14pm |
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:15:38pm |
re: #74 Joanne
Not to mention that our economy requires businesses. Not bad players, but all businesses are a bad players.
JRRB CREETORS!!!!!!!
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thatthatisis Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:15:39pm |
re: #71 Joanne
So you’re saying Booker should be lockstep with whomever the dem in power is? That’s Boehner/McConnell territory. No, I wasn’t happy with it, but I’d rather someone speaks his/her mind than just go along to simply go along. That doesn’t serve the American people at all.
I agree with you, and if he had just been representing himself, I would have had no issue with him speaking his mind at all.
What I objected to was the fact he was the official spokesperson for Obama, and he stabbed him in the back.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:16:07pm |
Perhaps the US team should enter the stadium doing the YMCA. http://t.co/Nqeg4Y5JDb— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) August 14, 2013
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:17:08pm |
Salon has been unprofitable through its entire history. Since 2007, the company has been dependent on ongoing cash injections from board Chairman John Warnock and William Hambrecht, father of former Salon CEO Elizabeth Hambrecht. During the nine months ended December 31, 2012, these cash contributions amounted to $3.4 million, compared to revenue in the same period of $2.7 million.
John Edward Warnock (born October 6, 1940) is an American computer scientist best known as the co-founder with Charles Geschke of Adobe Systems Inc., the graphics and publishing software company. Dr. Warnock was President of Adobe for his first two years and Chairman and CEO for his remaining sixteen years at the company. Although retired as CEO in 2001, he still co-chairs the board with Geschke. Warnock has pioneered the development of graphics, publishing, Web and electronic document technologies that have revolutionized the field of publishing and visual communications.
William R. “Bill” Hambrecht (born 1935) is an American investment banker and chairman of WR Hambrecht + Co which he founded in 1998. He helped persuade Google to use an Internet-based auction for their initial public offering (IPO) in 2004, instead of a more traditional method using banks and other financial companies to find buyers. He is credited with popularizing this “OpenIPO” model, using Dutch auctions to allow anyone, not just investing insiders, to buy stock in an IPO, potentially raising more money for startups. Some of the companies he has helped have an IPO like this include Overstock.com, Ravenswood Winery, Andover.net and Salon.com.
Thank you Silicon Valley!
— Salon Media
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AlexRogan Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:20:21pm |
re: #67 Gus
Sirota’s a dumbass; he seems to miss the fact that this was a primary win for Booker, with the general coming in the next couple of months. Booker’s closer to becoming a Senator, but he isn’t there yet.
David Sirota, your ass sucks canal water.
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Randall Gross Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:25:34pm |
re: #75 Vicious Babushka
The first Loyalists in America were also royalists. en.wikipedia.org
…many went to Canada and Bermuda after the war.
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:26:15pm |
Things GOP House also has the votes for. #p2 #tcot @gottlaff @laloalacaraz @markos #uniteblue http://t.co/Qv2PRbe8vC pic.twitter.com/N7IvBUf7iz— King David (@KingDavidLane) August 14, 2013
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:51:00pm |
You ever notice how some folks think that to come off as intelligent they have to cynical all the time?
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Targetpractice Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:51:33pm |
re: #91 Gus
You ever notice how some folks think that to come off as intelligent they have to cynical all the time?
As opposed to people like me, who are cynical all the time?
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GeneJockey Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:51:53pm |
re: #91 Gus
You ever notice how some folks think that to come off as intelligent they have to cynical all the time?
Do you have any idea just how cynical that sounds?
//
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:52:24pm |
re: #92 Targetpractice
As opposed to people like me, who are cynical all the time?
In how they respond to news items for one. They have to look at the down side of everything.
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:53:12pm |
CORY BOOKER! OMG! HE’S HORRIBLE AND HERE’S WHY…
Like that chit.
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:53:44pm |
President Obama pushes ambitious Internet access plan
OMG THAT’S NOT GOING TO WORK. HERE’S WHY…
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jaunte Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:53:58pm |
re: #94 Gus
You made a brief comment earlier about not freaking out over news, but I wasn’t on the thread long enough to see if you expanded on the thought.
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GeneJockey Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:55:36pm |
re: #97 jaunte
You made a brief comment earlier about not freaking out over news, but I wasn’t on the thread long enough to see if you expanded on the thought.
IIRC, he actually contracted, down to one-word posts. I took it to be performance art.
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Targetpractice Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:55:58pm |
re: #95 Gus
CORY BOOKER! OMG! HE’S HORRIBLE AND HERE’S WHY…
Like that chit.
That’s pretty much SOP on any board these days, the “lone contrarian” who will beat a horse to death, even if it’s only based upon bad information.
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:58:00pm |
re: #99 Targetpractice
That’s pretty much SOP on any board these days, the “lone contrarian” who will beat a horse to death, even if it’s only based upon bad information.
Wasn’t specifying this place really. Twitter observation mostly. More humble here.
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Kragar Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:58:04pm |
Georgia man arrested for beheading and stabbing puppies
A man in Cobb County, Georgia has been arrested for allegedly mutilating two puppies his neighbors gave him to watch.
Robert Williams Davis, 38, was arrested just before midnight on Saturday after police officers found the dogs’ dead bodies in a wooded area behind his house.
A 14-year-old neighbor of Davis had given him and his girlfriend the two pit bull puppies. A pit bull rescue group was going to pick the dogs up within a few days. But the neighbor, Tyler Tedesco, learned that Davis had killed the two puppies. He called 911.
“I saw that, I dropped what I was doing and just walked away. I couldn’t bear to see that because I raised those dogs,” Tedesco told WSBTV.
Davis allegedly killed both puppies with a pair of scissors. Police said one dog was beheaded, while the other was stabbed in the throat. It is unclear why Davis killed the puppies.
Unclear? Maybe because the guy is a fucking animal.
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:58:55pm |
re: #97 jaunte
You made a brief comment earlier about not freaking out over news, but I wasn’t on the thread long enough to see if you expanded on the thought.
I was on AT&T mobile for most of the day so… sucked. 1 bars… zero bars… Turned of the puter.
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Targetpractice Tue, Aug 13, 2013 7:59:55pm |
re: #100 Gus
Wasn’t specifying this place really. Twitter observation mostly. More humble here.
I tend to think of Twitter as a look into people’s untapped id. Seen people post shit there they’d never begin to think of saying in real life. The GIFT principle taken to its logical conclusion.
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:01:17pm |
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jaunte Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:05:50pm |
re: #107 Gus
Explosion on board INS Sindhurakshak
ibnlive.in.com
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Targetpractice Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:06:50pm |
It’s part of the reason I’ve never signed up for Twitter, namely that most of the time I have nothing overly interesting to say, and when I do its mostly things that only sound good in passing. And I can only handle certain Twitter feeds in moderation.
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:09:53pm |
OK, I admit. Once again. Twitter observation. Atheists are obsessed with Islam.
Sincerely,
Atheist
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Interesting Times Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:12:09pm |
re: #108 Gus
Nobles.
Where’s Researchok?
I think his father passed away (either earlier this year or late last year), and (though he never said it outright), it seems the event inspired him to withdraw from almost all online activity (he closed his personal blog as well)
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:13:22pm |
re: #113 Interesting Times
I think his father passed away (either earlier this year or late last year), and (though he never said it outright), it seems the event inspired him to withdraw from almost all online activity (he closed his personal blog as well)
Thanks!
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Interesting Times Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:16:22pm |
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Joanne Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:20:08pm |
re: #101 Kragar
Georgia man arrested for beheading and stabbing puppies
Unclear? Maybe because the guy is a fucking animal.
Jesus fucking Christ. I mean…Jesus fucking Christ.
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:20:43pm |
What the…
Missouri Rodeo Association President Resigns Over Obama Clown Incident http://t.co/FLalPagF4n— National Review (@NROcorner) August 14, 2013
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Amory Blaine Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:21:32pm |
re: #91 Gus
You ever notice how some folks think that to come off as intelligent they have to cynical all the time?
That’s what they want you to believe!!!11!Ty
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Amory Blaine Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:23:07pm |
If Booker finds Hoffa while digging in NJ shirtless he’d have my vote!!!
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Joanne Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:23:41pm |
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ProTARDISLiberal Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:24:15pm |
I started Dawnguard in Skyrim.
Do I side with the vampires, or the Dawnguard?
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The Mountain That Blogs Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:24:19pm |
I believe in you. I know this is a problem you can handle. RT @DAT_NIGGA_REEE a my nigga i m running out of hotpockets to put in the oven— Cory Booker (@CoryBooker) November 1, 2012
Nine months later, this is still hilarious.
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jaunte Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:24:58pm |
re: #117 Gus
That piece suggests Ficken had nothing to do with the incident, which makes resigning an odd move.
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Political Atheist Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:26:13pm |
re: #101 Kragar
Georgia man arrested for beheading and stabbing puppies
Unclear? Maybe because the guy is a fucking animal.
Somebody keep a close eye on that sick f… b… man. That kind of cruelty just takes my breath away.
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:26:39pm |
re: #123 jaunte
That piece suggests Ficken had nothing to do with the incident, which make resigning an odd move.
Ironically, the Obama rodeo clown leads to the impeachment of Missouri Rodeo Association President http://t.co/DVGmfwKg8K— Brent S. Sirota (@BrentSirota) August 14, 2013
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:27:09pm |
re: #123 jaunte
That piece suggests Ficken had nothing to do with the incident, which make resigning an odd move.
This is why:
According to Ficken’s attorney, he’s resigned over the MRCA’s handling of criticisms of the event. Ficken especially objects to the fact it hasn’t dissociated with the “rogue rodeo clown” who wore the mask, a man who goes by the name of Tuffy Gessling. Ficken believes the clown “jeopardized the organization” and “ought to be kicked out,” Watkins said. The MRCA has posted an apology on its website
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Interesting Times Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:28:07pm |
re: #123 jaunte
That piece suggests Ficken had nothing to do with the incident, which make resigning an odd move.
I guess he was just fick out of luck :/
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jaunte Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:28:50pm |
re: #126 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
I was thinking he might have a little more control over what the organization did if he stayed in as president.
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Joanne Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:28:58pm |
re: #125 Gus
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I’m sure he didn’t. He apologized for it, a real, heartfelt, true apology (no phony baloney “Sorry if anyone was offended” BS. I’m sorry for him, but isn’t this what accountability is?
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Interesting Times Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:33:27pm |
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Kragar Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:33:41pm |
re: #121 ProTARDISLiberal
I started Dawnguard in Skyrim.
Do I side with the vampires, or the Dawnguard?
Dawnguard, the Vampire overlord form is stupid as hell.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:41:33pm |
re: #130 Interesting Times
Yeah, but that’s hearsay. I trusted it on the face of it, but maybe it’s more complex.
Who knows. Maybe they’re all just runnin’ sceered now, though I don’t really know what they’re so afraid of. It’s not like being a public racist is penalized heavily these days.
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jaunte Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:42:28pm |
re: #130 Interesting Times
I can’t find anything that corroborates that.
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Kragar Tue, Aug 13, 2013 8:46:49pm |
OK, part way thru the scene I had trouble with. Not sure how I want to proceed. Its a lot of exposition and key to the story, so I want to be careful.
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Gus Tue, Aug 13, 2013 9:01:30pm |
U.S. Marine Cadences http://t.co/8u6rmp9dQV— Gus (@Gus_802) August 14, 2013
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darthstar Tue, Aug 13, 2013 9:09:45pm |
Attention Half Moon Bay people! There's no fog, no clouds, and tonight is the peak of the #perseid meteor shower!— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) August 14, 2013
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freetoken Tue, Aug 13, 2013 9:22:33pm |
Garbage collection is probably too socialist for this guy:
State Rep.: Why ‘beautify’ state highways when bridges need repairs?
Pennsylvania spends about $15 million a year paying Department of Transportation workers to clean up trash and mow along state-maintained roads.
That’s the kind of spending that needs a second look before taxpayers ought to be asked to absorb the cost of a gas tax increase, state Rep. Stephen Bloom, R-Cumberland, said Tuesday.
Bloom is one of the Republicans in the House who broke ranks with the governor, ultimately derailing the transportation plan in June. Bloom is also emerging as one of the most strident conservative voices in the state House.
Earlier this month, he attracted national attention by announcing an “academic freedom” bill intended to allow students to defend creationism or debate climate change science in class.
Bloom is now circulating a memo seeking support for a bill that would mandate that PennDOT must spend its money on road and bridge repairs instead of things like bicycle paths and other non-essential programs.
[…]
State Rep. Brad Roae, R-Crawford, agreed.
“Litter cleanup, bike trails, intersection enhancements, etc. are nice, but bridges are absolutely essential,” Roae said.
[…]
Atavists and “poor white trash” seem to go together.
Really, litter collection is considered non-essential?
Also, there are good reasons to mow the greenery on the side of roads.
The atavists really do want to turn society all the way back.
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Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Aug 13, 2013 9:22:47pm |
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freetoken Tue, Aug 13, 2013 9:30:49pm |
This is America, 2013:
Northwest school board begins budget work
[…]
In other business at the school board meeting Monday night, Northwest High School science teacher Dave Olson made a presentation asking that Northwest High School students “learn about both the scientific evidence for and against neo-Darwinian evolution.”
[…]
Near the end of his presentation on evolution, Olson told board members that he is not proposing that Northwest High School students learn about any religious viewpoints such as creationism and he is not proposing that students learn about intelligent design. He also said he is not proposing that students stop learning the evidence for evolution. [ed: Lyin’ for Jesus] Instead, he said he wants students to learn the evidence both for and against neo-Darwinian evolution.
Olson gave a PowerPoint presentation with slides that raised questions about Darwin’s Theory of Evolution, with several of the slides quoting Jonathan Wells, a Ph.D. who questions the theory of evolution. One of the slides was titled “Survival of the Fakest.” It quoted Wells as saying, “Science now knows that many of the pillars of Darwinian theory are either false or misleading. Yet biology texts continue to present them as factual evidence of evolution. What does this imply about their scientific standards?”
Olson also pointed to Ernst Haeckel, who “misrepresented drawings of embryos to make them look more similar than they actually are” because he wanted to support the theory of evolution. In addition, he said there is a lack of fossil evidence to show evolutionary transitions in various species.
The science teacher also took issue with neo-Darwinism that says new species arise from the accumulation of mutations in DNA to create new variations, with natural selection helping to eliminate harmful mutations. However, his slide said, “Today, genetics show that most mutations are harmful, thus new traits are not likely to occur. Traits are naturally selected, no new traits are formed.”
One of Olson’s slides cited Darwin himself to support teaching evidence against the theory of evolution. That slide quoted Darwin as saying, “A fair result can be obtained only by fully stating and balancing the facts and arguments on both sides of each question.” Olson asked the board’s curriculum committee to consider his request for a change so that both the scientific evidence for and against neo-Darwinism be taught.
[…]
Yes, that Jonathan Wells.
Oh, and Haeckel!!
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darthstar Tue, Aug 13, 2013 9:31:03pm |
Oh nice! You got your tooth replaced! Where did it come from? ”My pee.” pic.twitter.com/A7kxlpI25p— SciencePorn (@SciencePorn) August 14, 2013
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freetoken Tue, Aug 13, 2013 9:35:03pm |
Oh, look, science teacher Dave Olson has tried this before:
What is it about creationists’ ethics that they think lying for Jesus is some sort of moral high?
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jaunte Tue, Aug 13, 2013 9:35:42pm |
re: #142 darthstar
@SciencePorn @jaunte A couple more beers and I can make all of England look normal.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) August 14, 2013
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darthstar Tue, Aug 13, 2013 9:38:35pm |
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freetoken Wed, Aug 14, 2013 12:00:04am |
A little harp for the middle of the night:
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Aug 14, 2013 2:49:31am |
re: #141 freetoken
This is America, 2013:
Northwest school board begins budget work
Yes, that Jonathan Wells.
Oh, and Haeckel!!
Why are school boards paying attention to anything written by a mentally compromised Moonie? Obviously, the brown acid Wells ingested as a youth really fucked up his brain. : )
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Aug 14, 2013 3:13:53am |
What kind of fuckery is this?
Luther Lowe @lutherlowe
I co-presented at #ALEC on behalf of Yelp about free speech online. Here’s the preso: slideshare.net … /CC: @WorkingAmerica #antislapp
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Aug 14, 2013 3:46:14am |
re: #149 Justanotherhuman
Yelp is one of my least favorite companies anyway.
They favor those laws probably to limit liability from store owners suing them for coercing them into paying up to get their good reviews listed.
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 4:31:24am |
re: #139 freetoken
Keeping rights of way maintained is a safety issue. Trash on the side of the road can include debris that could lead to vehicle accidents or cause damage to vehicles. It can also clog catchment basins, leading to localized flooding and cause traffic congestion or road shutdowns.
Apparently all that gets ignored by this numbnut who thinks that this is all extraneous.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 4:32:18am |
HAHAHA!
Ruh Roh!! Ayn Rand absolutely hated Ronald Reagan http://t.co/qPvaGJoJ7D via @onswipe #tcot #p2 #UniteBlue— Douglas (@teter45013) August 14, 2013
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Aug 14, 2013 4:33:56am |
she hated the real RR, not the fuzzy-warm-memory-of-better-times-that-really-never-existed RR
and the latter is the one all good conservatives adore.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Aug 14, 2013 4:43:19am |
re: #154 Vicious Babushka
HAHAHA!
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Haha, the truth in the very first sentence about libertarians: “…I was a teenage Ayn Rand fanatic…” The very age, adolescence, that is usually the epitome of selfishness for most people who usually mature and grow out of it, and understand the value of society and contributing to and nourishing it, developing empathy for others and seeing them as valuable beings as much as ourselves.
Some, as we know, never get past that time of life.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 4:50:54am |
re: #156 Justanotherhuman
Haha, the truth in the very first sentence about libertarians: “…I was a teenage Ayn Rand fanatic…” The very age, adolescence, that is usually the epitome of selfishness for most people who usually mature and grow out of it, and understand the value of society and contributing to and nourishing it, developing empathy for others and seeing them as valuable beings as much as ourselves.
Some, as we know, never get past that time of life.
“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves hobbits.”
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:01:41am |
MORE: Citing threats, aid group Doctors Without Borders pulls out of Somalia after 22 years: http://t.co/H9zzLmb3Uc -KM— The Associated Press (@AP) August 14, 2013
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:12:53am |
re: #158 Vicious Babushka
@AP When #MSF / #DWB pulls out of country because of safety issues, you know things are horrific. They don't do that unless it's that bad— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 14, 2013
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:13:54am |
Current headline on Fox and Friends:
Out of control? NAACP wants atty general to investigate clown
(I am not watching Fox by choice, it’s always on in the break room at work it seems.)
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:15:01am |
Somalia is a fine example of what happens when you really do get government “out of the way”
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A Mom Anon Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:16:40am |
re: #158 Vicious Babushka
The rest of the animal kingdom would laugh at us if we weren’t fucking up their shit so bad as we fuck ourselves over.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:16:43am |
re: #158 Vicious Babushka
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Probably a good idea. Reporting has indicated a lot of in-fighting in al-Shabaab, which means “The Youth” in Arabic and is controlled by al Qaeda. sabahionline.com
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:17:21am |
re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg
Somalia is a fine example of what happens when you really do get government “out of the way”
HURR HURR! THAT’S ONLY BECAUSE SOMALIA IS FULL OF TEH BLAH PEOPLE!!!11!! CHRIST-LOVING WHITE PEOPLE RR DIFFERNT!!11
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:17:32am |
re: #143 freetoken
Oh, look, science teacher Dave Olson has tried this before:
What is it about creationists’ ethics that they think lying for Jesus is some sort of moral high?
It’s like they think the darn things are called the 10 suggestions
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:18:05am |
Today marks the 10th anniversary of the massive Northeast blackout due, in part to a downed tree on a power line in Ohio and the failure of the distribution system to contain the outage locally. 45 million people in the US and 10 million in Canada were without power.
Since then, the utilities have reported some improvements on the interconnects to keep the power flowing in case of localized outages. Hardening the distribution system is a huge concern, especially with all manner of natural disasters occurring in recent years - tornadoes, hurricanes, and flooding being the most common. Nationally, people have on average 1 blackout a year - usually weather caused.
Around here, PSEG is installing new power lines/poles, and some people are upset because the new poles smell and are much taller than they thought they’d be. They ignore that the new poles are more likely to survive wild weather, have new lightning grounding systems, and carry more power so that the grid is more stable.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:21:25am |
re: #166 lawhawk
Today marks the 10th anniversary of the massive Northeast blackout due, in part to a downed tree on a power line in Ohio and the failure of the distribution system to contain the outage locally. 45 million people in the US and 10 million in Canada were without power.
Since then, the utilities have reported some improvements on the interconnects to keep the power flowing in case of localized outages. Hardening the distribution system is a huge concern, especially with all manner of natural disasters occurring in recent years - tornadoes, hurricanes, and flooding being the most common. Nationally, people have on average 1 blackout a year - usually weather caused.
Around here, PSEG is installing new power lines/poles, and some people are upset because the new poles smell and are much taller than they thought they’d be. They ignore that the new poles are more likely to survive wild weather, have new lightning grounding systems, and carry more power so that the grid is more stable.
I semi-heard a report on NPR this morning talking about suggestions that these huge grids be broken up into smaller ones to mitigate the numbers affected by those kinds of outages. Didn’t get the full argument, although the newscast should be available later.
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A Mom Anon Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:22:18am |
re: #166 lawhawk
Those same whiners will be the first to pitch a giant baby tantrum when their power goes out more than 10 minutes.
Idiots. I don’t like the look of power lines and poles either, I wish we had more of this stuff underground somehow. But I’d rather have new and improved service over stuff that’s old and falling apart or prone to fall apart.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:23:02am |
re: #166 lawhawk
Today marks the 10th anniversary of the massive Northeast blackout due, in part to a downed tree on a power line in Ohio and the failure of the distribution system to contain the outage locally. 45 million people in the US and 10 million in Canada were without power.
Since then, the utilities have reported some improvements on the interconnects to keep the power flowing in case of localized outages. Hardening the distribution system is a huge concern, especially with all manner of natural disasters occurring in recent years - tornadoes, hurricanes, and flooding being the most common. Nationally, people have on average 1 blackout a year - usually weather caused.
Around here, PSEG is installing new power lines/poles, and some people are upset because the new poles smell and are much taller than they thought they’d be. They ignore that the new poles are more likely to survive wild weather, have new lightning grounding systems, and carry more power so that the grid is more stable.
I remember that day well in part because today happens to be my birthday so suffice to say my 22nd was one to remember.
I was living in Ottawa, Ontario at the time. I got lucky because Ottawa lies directly south of the province of Quebec and they did not lose power on their side.
One of the most poignant memories of that night was driving through the Ottawa downtown core and everything was pitch black. Like eerily dark. In an urban area it’s easy to get used to the lights and forget how dark it actually gets when the sun goes down.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:25:01am |
re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg
Happy 32nd! Many, many more. : )
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:26:33am |
re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg
Somalia is a fine example of what happens when you really do get government “out of the way”
QFT.
It’s a failed state in every sense of the term.
It’s an incubator for extremists and terrorists, including al Qaeda.
It’s a home to piracy affecting commerce along key trade routes in and out of the Red Sea/Suez Canal from the Indian Ocean.
It’s a source of unrest likely to spill over to its neighbors, including Ethiopia, which has attempted to quell the violence with little success.
Islamists are running around with fiefdoms of control, but there’s no interest in public health, infrastructure, or anything that resembles a functioning society. The few people who do provide public health services are targeted - including MSF.
MSF is a tremendous organization bringing health services to underserved regions of the world that are racked with violence, war, drought, and natural disasters. But when their own staff gets targeted, they have no choice but to pull out for their own safety. It’s the toughest decision they can make, and it’s going to mean that the lives of those who they could help are made that much more difficult. It’s that fact - that they can help improve the lives of so many through vaccinations and urgent care that keeps them working in conditions that are unimaginable to most folks.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:27:02am |
Thank you, I am currently at work but I am off tomorrow so celebrating will be happening tonight.
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:30:00am |
re: #168 A Mom Anon
Burying the lines can be far more expensive than the overhead lines, and if there’s a problem with the underground lines, it can take longer to repair.
It makes sense to bury lines where there are significant tree stands and the likelihood of wind damage, but that has to be balanced by areas where flooding is as great, or greater, a concern.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:34:17am |
ATTN WINGNUTS: GW BUSH WAS NOT POTUS IN 1994.
Liberals are the biggest hypocrites! #tcot #p2 #Teaparty #LNYHBT #Jcot #Ccot pic.twitter.com/hr1kEjEwE7— Haywood Webb + ???? (@HaywoodWebb) August 14, 2013
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OhNoZombies! Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:36:27am |
Heh…the black-out.
It wasn’t all that bad.
My oldest son was born in May 2004.
Anyhoo, I live in NE Ohio. The power went out for about 10 seconds this morning.
I wonder if someone was trying to be funny?
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:40:42am |
re: #175 Vicious Babushka
ATTN WINGNUTS: GW BUSH WAS NOT POTUS IN 1994.
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Did they have the bull run down Bush?
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:42:01am |
re: #177 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Did they have the bull run down Bush?
That is not even a GHW Bush mask. Who even gave a shit about GW in 1994? Was he Gov. of TX then?
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OhNoZombies! Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:44:04am |
re: #178 Vicious Babushka
That is not even a GHW Bush mask. Who even gave a shit about GW in 1994? Was he Gov. of TX then?
I think Ann Richards was still in office.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:44:53am |
re: #179 OhNoZombies!
I think Ann Richards was still in office.
So then what was even the point of a GW Bush mask in 1994? Unless that isn’t really a mask and it’s GWB his very self.
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OhNoZombies! Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:46:46am |
re: #180 Vicious Babushka
So then what was even the point of a GW Bush mask in 1994? Unless that isn’t really a mask and it’s GWB his very self.
Lol !!!
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:48:59am |
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Ian G. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:58:54am |
Yup, government interference in the marketplace is a bad thing. From now on, no more US Navy presence in the Gulf of Aden. Oil prices should reflect the cost of the ransom money paid to Somali pirates who hjiack oil tankers.
At least this guy is inadvertently doing his small part to help the environment.
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Flounder Wed, Aug 14, 2013 5:59:16am |
Hero of the day:
When State Trooper Ian Henry saw a red Dodge pickup truck barreling down the Northway in his rearview mirror Saturday morning, he switched on his radar and clocked it at 86 mph
Why you ask?
When he pulled the driver over at about 9 a.m., the woman in the passenger seat told him why there was such a need for speed: She was in labor.
Which you know what happens next according to the movies:
When the ambulance arrived, the expectant mother — whom State Police did not identify — was whisked inside and the emergency crew took over, much to Henry’s relief. “Probably a minute later, one of the EMS personnel said, ‘Here comes the baby,’”
Now I know, yawn, but wait for it:
Henry did not issue a ticket, a matter that he said is up to his discretion.
“Troopers,” he said, “we have a heart.”
Who knew?!
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Ian G. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:01:04am |
re: #180 Vicious Babushka
So then what was even the point of a GW Bush mask in 1994?
Maybe the guy was an annoyed Texas Rangers fan and thought W. was a bad owner?
/// (well, then again, I’d definitely wear a Fred Wilpon clown mask to express my displeasure with his ownership of the Mets)
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Flounder Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:01:50am |
An update to a local story about puppy abuse a while back. ( malnourished puppies were abandoned near the rail road tracks.)
The man who left three pit bull puppies for dead on railroad tracks — then abandoned four more dogs in the back of a U-Haul truck — received a sentence Tuesday of six months in jail as a dog owner branded him a “monster” and a “sociopath.”
cuteness alert!
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b.d. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:03:18am |
re: #178 Vicious Babushka
That is not even a GHW Bush mask. Who even gave a shit about GW in 1994? Was he Gov. of TX then?
It could be a Neil Bush mask?
//
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:03:45am |
Egypt in chaos.
Pro-Morsi protesters push a police car, with cops still inside, off a bridge:
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Flounder Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:06:13am |
re: #166 lawhawk
some people are upset because the new poles smell
Really? I would love to get that phone call at PSEG
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:07:56am |
re: #185 Ian G.
Maybe the guy was an annoyed Texas Rangers fan and thought W. was a bad owner?
/// (well, then again, I’d definitely wear a Fred Wilpon clown mask to express my displeasure with his ownership of the Mets)
Found the original story. It says a “George Bush mask” but does not specify if GHW or GW. Maybe meant GHW, although GHW was not President in 1994.
A dummy with a George Bush mask stood beside the clown, propped up by a broomstick.
T.J. Hawkins rolled out the big inner tube, and the bull lowered his head, shot forward and launched into the tube, sending it bounding down the center of the arena. The crowd cheered. Then the bull saw the George Bush dummy.
He tore into it, sending the rubber mask flying halfway across the sand as he turned toward the fence, sending cowboys scrambling up the fence rails, hooking one with his horn and tossing him off the fence.
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OhNoZombies! Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:08:00am |
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b.d. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:10:15am |
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:12:06am |
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OhNoZombies! Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:12:39am |
re: #192 b.d.
I think it has to be a Bruce Babbit mask. Fits the time frame and kinda sorta looks like him if you squint and use your imagination.
Could be, but VB posted the original article, so I’m thinking Papa Bush.
Remember folks were ticked off about new taxes…
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:12:48am |
Good morning Lizards. 24 hours after deluge morning (gray, gloomy, and downpour rain) it’s bright blue sky, mild temp (63F), and sort of like… San Diego without the beach and the aircraft carriers.
;)
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Ian G. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:22:16am |
re: #195 Feline Fearless Leader
Good morning Lizards. 24 hours after deluge morning (gray, gloomy, and downpour rain) it’s bright blue sky, mild temp (63F), and sort of like… San Diego without the beach and the aircraft carriers.
;)
I have to say, this has been one of the most pleasant Augusts I can remember in the NYC area. We really haven’t had any oppressive heat since that mid-July heat wave broke. That was almost a month ago.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:22:24am |
re: #190 Vicious Babushka
So, it was a dummy wearing a GB mask, not a human wearing who knows who mask, as shown in the photo…
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Political Atheist Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:23:11am |
re: #188 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Pushing off the quick temptation to judge the whole pro Morsi movement by that terrifying scene. The more I read about Egypt now the less I feel I understand.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:30:04am |
#BREAKING Sky News cameraman killed in Egypt clashes: Sky— Agence France-Presse (@AFP) August 14, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:32:53am |
DERP!
No soldiers ever died in British, Australian, Canadian, French, Israeli, Polish, etc. armies FOR FREEDOM?
@irritatedwoman @LNYHBTkid @LibertyBelle38 @TheFriddle @seanhannity @UseThaForce @ericbolling @redgal60 #LNYHBT pic.twitter.com/dh5PDjAr3Y— Nina A (@NinaFromLI) August 14, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:34:04am |
I would add also that a lot more RUSSIAN soldiers died in WW2 so that AMERICANS could enjoy FREEDOM.
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Flounder Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:34:04am |
re: #188 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Apparently they don’t damage the threads of the guide-rail anchor bolts when installed. Shoulda hired a better consultant inspection agency. Who woulda thought, have a riot, bring your wrenches!
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b.d. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:38:17am |
re: #197 Justanotherhuman
So, it was a dummy wearing a GB mask, not a human wearing who knows who mask, as shown in the photo…
And it was also 20 freaking years ago. If they want to open their books to that time period again then let’s have at it.
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Ian G. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:43:24am |
re: #200 Vicious Babushka
I didn’t ask Jesus to die for me, so can his followers kindly stop bothering me with this kind of derp?
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Lidane Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:44:15am |
Conservative pollsters to GOP: Don’t worry about a shutdown, defund Obamacare! http://t.co/UOSom2RAsW— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) August 14, 2013
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Lidane Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:45:52am |
Minnesota lawmaker: Donate to my campaign, get a concealed carry permit http://t.co/Fa3bUNBsWk— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) August 14, 2013
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:48:56am |
Sounds like all out civil war in Egypt. Sad.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:49:15am |
re: #204 Ian G.
I didn’t ask Jesus to die for me, so can his followers kindly stop bothering me with this kind of derp?
Me neither.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:49:41am |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 6:55:06am |
re: #207 Justanotherhuman
Sounds like all out civil war in Egypt. Sad.
It doesn’t look good. I don’t know if this will calm things down.
#BREAKING: EGYPT PRESIDENCY ANNOUNCES STATE OF EMERGENCY ACROSS THE COUNTRY STARTING AT 4 P.M.— Lina Saigol (@LinaSaigol) August 14, 2013
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SchadenBoner Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:04:24am |
re: #28 freetoken
Lots of Booker-hate spilling in now. Who knew the woodwork could hold so many creatures?
He’s a Black Democrat with a national audience and the ire of the GOP, the Dudebro Lolbertarians, and the Emoprogs (although I’m not sure why on the last group, other than he dares to think that maybe structural unemployment and massive economic inequality might, just possibly, be more important than the NSA doing what it’s always done and a few damned Jihadis getting bombs dropped on them).
Welcome to teh Internets, you must be new here?
(Said the hatchling to the Komodo…)
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SidewaysQuark Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:08:48am |
re: #201 Vicious Babushka
I would add also that a lot more RUSSIAN soldiers died in WW2 so that AMERICANS could enjoy FREEDOM.
No, millions of Russians died in WW2 so that Russia could merely survive. Freedom was not a commodity they had the luxury to deal in at the time.
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darthstar Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:12:18am |
Drunk before Noonan…again. http://t.co/vynP7abf16— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) August 14, 2013
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SidewaysQuark Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:14:08am |
re: #205 Lidane
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The same idiots who rally to shut down the government will be the same ones rallying against the failure of government to accomplish anything (mostly due to the shutdown).
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:15:02am |
re: #212 SidewaysQuark
No, millions of Russians died in WW2 so that Russia could merely survive. Freedom was not a commodity they had the luxury to deal in at the time.
I said that millions of Russians DIED and Americans enjoyed the FREEDOM.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:15:18am |
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SidewaysQuark Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:15:46am |
re: #215 Vicious Babushka
I said that millions of Russians DIED and Americans enjoyed the FREEDOM.
True.
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b.d. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:19:01am |
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:20:10am |
Oh well, having once worked for Mr. Holt, I’m disappointed he didn’t do better. But Booker is much better known.
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theheat Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:21:43am |
re: #175 Vicious Babushka
And IIRC, wasn’t the instigator of the Obama/bull event a not-so-quiet race baiting wingnut?
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:24:50am |
re: #210 NJDhockeyfan
It doesn’t look good. I don’t know if this will calm things down.
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A state of emergency would give the interim government (or junta, depending on your perspective) the power to make arbitrary arrests, mass detentions, etc. IOW, they could crack down hard on the pro-Morsi supporters and the MB.
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:27:08am |
re: #201 Vicious Babushka
I would add also that a lot more RUSSIAN soldiers died in WW2 so that AMERICANS could enjoy FREEDOM.
If I was Stalin* I’d have been pretty damn pissed about the failure of the Allies to establish a wide-scale second front before D-Day during which Russia bore the brunt of the Nazi offensive. Says a lot about the Nazi military build up during the ‘30’s and it’s abilities that it could more or less hold the West at bay for three years while also launching a full-scale invasion of Russia.
*Not that I feel sorry for Stalin exactly…he signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler and was a butcher in his own right, etc. But the Russian people suffered greatly (a huge understatement).
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:27:39am |
Racist TV Clown @SeanHannity Defends Racist Rodeo Clown at MO State Fair http://t.co/ppKBlUyLU9 #p2 #tcot #pjnet #WhitePeoplesParty— Blue DuPage (@BlueDuPage) August 14, 2013
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:28:54am |
I hope this guy gets hit where it hurts the most: his wallet, because he won’t have any regrets otherwise.
Boonville school district to hire investigator after rodeo controversy
“Ficken directed reporters to his attorney, Albert Watkins of St. Louis, who denied Ficken had known about the stunt in advance. He was unable to answer why his client did not attempt to stop it.”
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:30:23am |
re: #220 theheat
And IIRC, wasn’t the instigator of the Obama/bull event a not-so-quiet race baiting wingnut?
Fair visitor likened the atmosphere to a Klan rally.
“It wasn’t clean; it wasn’t fun. It was awful; it was sickening,” Beam said, “It was racist.”
The student, Jameson Hsieh, recorded a video of the incident, but had little to say afterward.
“He didn’t say anything. We rode all the way home in silence,” said Beam, who lives 50 miles away in Higginsville. “We were just ashamed, and he didn’t ask any more questions. I think he had seen enough. It is just disgusting.”
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:30:26am |
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:31:24am |
re: #222 Bulworth
If I was Stalin* I’d have been pretty damn pissed about the failure of the Allies to establish a wide-scale second front before D-Day during which Russia bore the brunt of the Nazi offensive. Says a lot about the Nazi military build up during the ‘30’s and it’s abilities that it could more or less hold the West at bay for three years while also launching a full-scale invasion of Russia.
*Not that I feel sorry for Stalin exactly…he signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler and was a butcher in his own right, etc. But the Russian people suffered greatly (a huge understatement).
Russia was supposed to be the pearl in Hitler’s Third Reich oyster. If he had conquered Russia, imagine what the rest of the war might have been like—and the future.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:31:27am |
Dim Jim still Derping about the racist rodeo:
“Support Rodeo Clown Tuffy Gessling” Facebook Page Collects Over 25K Fans in 1 Day http://t.co/h22pYMzGKy via @gatewaypundit @MissouriTorch— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) August 14, 2013
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SidewaysQuark Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:32:42am |
re: #222 Bulworth
If I was Stalin* I’d have been pretty damn pissed about the failure of the Allies to establish a wide-scale second front before D-Day during which Russia bore the brunt of the Nazi offensive. Says a lot about the Nazi military build up during the ‘30’s and it’s abilities that it could more or less hold the West at bay for three years while also launching a full-scale invasion of Russia.
*Not that I feel sorry for Stalin exactly…he signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler and was a butcher in his own right, etc. But the Russian people suffered greatly (a huge understatement).
Your asterisk nails the point. Had Stalin not been a conniving S.O.B. from the start, Hitler may never have achieved the position to wreak such havoc on Russia in the first place. The disgusting bloodshed on the Eastern Front was a result of abysmal leadership failures and betrayal on the part of two tyrants.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:32:50am |
re: #227 Justanotherhuman
Russia was supposed to be the pearl in Hitler’s Third Reich oyster. If he had conquered Russia, imagine what the rest of the war might have been like—and the future.
At the end, Hitler was diverting resources from the Wehrmacht to KILL MOAR JUICE.
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:35:03am |
re: #204 Ian G.
Heh, indeedy.
Must say I’m enjoying Zealot by Reza Aslan. I considered myself fairly well-read in this area but much of what he discusses is new and provocative. Which says a lot about how unimaginative most Christian thinking has been about Jesus, even among scholars. Which is why, dear Fox News host, that someone other than a Christian is worthy of taking on the subject of Jesus.
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:36:37am |
re: #230 Vicious Babushka
At the end, Hitler was diverting resources from the Wehrmacht to KILL MOAR JUICE.
And that certainly illustrates the pathological madness of the Third Reich’s leadership; for them it was a higher priority to finish the Final Solution.
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:38:48am |
re: #228 Vicious Babushka
Dim Jim still Derping about the racist rodeo:
“Support Rodeo Clown Tuffy Gessling” Facebook Page Collects Over 25K Fans in 1 Day http://t.co/h22pYMzGKy via @gatewaypundit @MissouriTorch
— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) August 14, 2013
You mean Dim Jim is on the bandwagon for the rodeo clown goon?
My surprise. Let me show you it.
Behold the latest, newest Cause Celebre among RWNJ. To the barricades!!!!
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b.d. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:43:55am |
re: #233 Bulworth
You mean Dim Jim is on the bandwagon for the rodeo clown goon?
My surprise. Let me show you it.
Behold the latest, newest Cause Celebre among RWNJ. To the barricades!!!!
The only way to make that rodeo clown more sympathetic to those guys is to make him a Russian.
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:45:03am |
re: #229 SidewaysQuark
An additional bizarre note is how Stalin basically gutted his military and its leadership during the bloody purges of the ‘30, leaving himself and his country f0cked for any major conflict. The Russian people were in that sense fortunate, relatively speaking, that its military was still able to rally and protect the country in its most dire time. The story of how the Russian government moved its industry to the East after the Nazi onslaught so that it could re-arm is quite amazing.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:51:08am |
*DERP*
#mockobamaday Obama The Tyrant uses Children as props like other known tyrants. #unitedblue #uniteblue #p2 #tcot pic.twitter.com/fRzbMcYWqi— 1984 BARACKOLYPSENOW (@CzarZellem) August 14, 2013
Of course, Ronald Reagan and G.W. Bush NEVER posed for pictures with children!
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erik_t Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:54:45am |
re: #236 Vicious Babushka
AH, NOW WE SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!
HELP, HELP, I’M BEING OPPRESSED!
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:54:57am |
re: #236 Vicious Babushka
How unhinged do you have to be to set up a Twitters account with the handle of 1984BARACKOLYPSENOW?
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:56:52am |
The robotic like rhetoric of the emoprog left:
Cory Booker: the inexorable rise of Newark’s neoliberal egomaniac
From Sunday.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:58:12am |
re: #239 Gus
The robotic like rhetoric of the emoprog left:
Cory Booker: the inexorable rise of Newark’s neoliberal egomaniac
From Sunday.
Is there actually any established politician that that the emoprog left likes?
And are any of the above even mildly sane?
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:58:54am |
re: #238 Bulworth
How unhinged do you have to be to set up a Twitters account with the handle of 1984BARACKOLYPSENOW?
Maybe he was born in 1984? That could be why he doesn’t remember anything that happened while Jesus was President in 1984.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:59:37am |
ZOMG IT TEH COMMUNISM!!!!1!!!!
Citizens ordered into re-education classes for mocking Dear Leader Obama http://t.co/ztVCuy9uLn— Rep. Steve Stockman (@SteveWorks4You) August 14, 2013
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:59:44am |
re: #239 Gus
Wait a minute now. Nobody’s got their ears to the ground about American state politics like The Guardian. //
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:00:02am |
re: #240 Feline Fearless Leader
Is there actually any established politician that that the emoprog left likes?
And are any of the above even mildly sane?
I don’t know. Cynthia McKinney or maybe Roseanne Barr. They’re both politicians don’t you know. Maybe John Cusak can run for office.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:00:12am |
Obama Must Make Sweet Love To That Racist Rodeo Clown, Peggy Noonan Mumbles Into Her Morning Pick-Me-Up http://t.co/7GoEyfS1Wm— Wonkette (@Wonkette) August 14, 2013
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:00:54am |
re: #242 Vicious Babushka
Are these re-education classes being held in the FEMA deathpanel trailer camps? /
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erik_t Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:01:17am |
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:01:59am |
re: #236 Vicious Babushka
Or GWB signing NCLB. Or highlighting need for fitness and nutrition (3 photos there).
Children’s holiday reception.
Afghan Women’s and Children’s Act
Every politician surrounds themselves with kids to prove a point. Kissing babies is a time worn tradition during elections. Saying that having photos with kids is a sign of tyranny is itself a sign of derangement over who’s in office.
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:04:54am |
NTSB is gathering info on this morning's crash of a UPS A306 cargo airplane in Birmingham, AL. Additional details soon.— NTSB (@NTSB) August 14, 2013
BREAKING: Fire chief: Pilot, co-pilot aboard UPS plane that crashed in Birmingham, Ala., have died.— The Associated Press (@AP) August 14, 2013
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:05:01am |
re: #245 Vicious Babushka
Obama Must Make Sweet Love To That Racist Rodeo Clown, Peggy Noonan Mumbles Into Her Morning Pick-Me-Up http://t.co/7GoEyfS1Wm
— Wonkette (@Wonkette) August 14, 2013
Those few snippets of Peg’s column were just painful.
From his Vineyard vacation spot
But her critique of Obomo’s vacation was spot-on. Why doesn’t he go to some Amercian destination, instead of the country of Vineyard? //
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Ian G. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:05:29am |
re: #236 Vicious Babushka
Of all the wingnut faux outrage memes, this one is the most idiotic. What politician in history hasn’t posed with children. Hitler and Stalin posed with children, and Obama posed with children, so Obama is just like Hitler and Stalin? Hey, following that logic, Hitler and Stalin breathed air, and a Capuchin monkey breathes air, so a Capuchin monkey is just like Hitler and Stalin, right?
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Ian G. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:06:00am |
re: #238 Bulworth
How unhinged do you have to be to set up a Twitters account with the handle of 1984BARACKOLYPSENOW?
Unhinged enough to think that a politician posing with children is a sign of tyranny.
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:06:01am |
re: #248 lawhawk
Those are all completely different because shut up.
//
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Ian G. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:08:11am |
re: #250 Bulworth
But her critique of Obomo’s vacation was spot-on. Why doesn’t he go to some Amercian destination, instead of the country of Vineyard? //
Anyone who doesn’t spend every single vacation in Gatlinburg or Pigeon Forge, TN, is a latte-sipping elitist who hates murka.
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As Stupid as I Look Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:08:28am |
re: #41 thatthatisis
For those looking for a citation about Booker and the dog, I’m afraid I don’t know how to embed. Just google “Booker saves dog”. The pictures the press took (he waiting to save the dog until the press arrived) as they interviewed Booker tell the story. Does the dog look like he’s being put into a warm car? Or do the pictures look more like Booker is holding the dog out in the cold while talking to the press with a concerned look on his face?
I will also be honest and admit that I was upset with Booker for his appearance on Meet The Press (I think it was MTP) when he criticized President Obama while he was an official spokesman for candidate Obama. I thought that was particularly opportunistic to get on the show as an Obama spokesman and use the visibility to further his own political career.
Go ahead and down rate me. I am only speaking my opinion and backing it up with reasons. How horrible of me.
In case it hasn’t been posted:
Booker put the dog in a heated police car, called its owners and scolded them for leaving the dog outside. The owners said they were away from home and didn’t know how the dog, named Cha Cha, got out of the house. They apologized to Booker.
The news people were there before Booker. They are the ones who put it out on Twitter.
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:10:20am |
re: #242 Vicious Babushka
How come Steve Works For You isn’t in one of these here citizen re-education camps?
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:11:58am |
re: #257 Bulworth
Because Obama is the incompetent tyrant that does everything evil imaginable, but does so incompetently. So the opposition has a chance to stay out of the reedumacation camps … //////
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:14:43am |
Conservative poll: Only a minority of voters in key districts supports repealing Obamacare (see Q 5): http://t.co/3l9aXiUlVA— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) August 14, 2013
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As Stupid as I Look Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:15:53am |
Booker and Greenwald are polar opposites. Booker is all ‘can do’ in engaging people to overcome difficulties. Greenwald is all ‘the sky is falling’ whining that his Randian libertarian utopia is full of compromises.
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As Stupid as I Look Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:17:31am |
re: #258 lawhawk
Because Obama is the incompetent tyrant that does everything evil imaginable, but does so incompetently. So the opposition has a chance to stay out of the reedumacation camps … //////
They’re the ones who need time in an educational summer camp.
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As Stupid as I Look Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:19:25am |
re: #240 Feline Fearless Leader
Is there actually any established politician that that the emoprog left likes?
And are any of the above even mildly sane?
Ron Paul?
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:19:35am |
re: #260 b_sharp
Booker and Greenwald are polar opposites. Booker is all ‘can do’ in engaging people to overcome difficulties. Greenwald is all ‘the sky is falling’ whining that his Randian libertarian utopia is full of compromises.
Vote for the 9/11 truther, Israel is teh apartheid, no more drones 3rd party senate candidate!!!!!!!!!!!!
//
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:19:42am |
re: #261 b_sharp
They’re the ones who need time in an educational summer camp.
They’re the ones who needed remedial summer school classes…
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:27:06am |
re: #262 b_sharp
Ron Paul?
I really doubt they would have liked Rush Holt. The only reason some showed some interest in him is because of Greenwald. Holt is still not left enough for these people.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:32:06am |
the founders totally fought for the free speech right to hold racist rodeo shows.— Oliver Willis (@owillis) August 14, 2013
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:35:19am |
Good morning lizards.
Nothing new reported in the Alexis Murphy investigation. Looks like CNN has picked up on the story since last night which is great. I hope the rest of the networks do the same.
They are back at Randy Taylor’s house this morning with K-9s, probably searching for human remains.
@MattTalhelm is outside #AlexisMurphy abduction suspect's Lovingston home where K-9 teams are searching his property pic.twitter.com/XCxgc5NAbb— Amy Vu (@AmyVuNBC29) August 14, 2013
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:40:45am |
I just spoke to a county cop friend of mine. They are looking hard for Alexis but most of them feel she’s probably dead. Fucked up shit.
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Lidane Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:40:47am |
Will having a kid who comes down with an easily preventable illness also become a status symbol?
http://t.co/LuvmG6HhP5 Not vaccinating your kids has become a status symbol for wealthy people to distinguish themselves from the masses.— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) August 14, 2013
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Lidane Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:41:51am |
GOP senator says group is on “environmental jihad” against him: http://t.co/a1PUkk3T1b— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) August 14, 2013
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:42:06am |
McCain criticizes Kerry, says he “predicted” situation in Egypt: http://t.co/st5rVhItrp— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) August 14, 2013
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:44:02am |
Argle bargle, Kerry, I predicted this, argle bargle, he compounded this, argle bargle…
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:45:03am |
Mursi supporters shoot dead four policemen in police station in Cairo: state TV #breaking http://t.co/j076iatcFX #Egypt— Reuters World (@ReutersWorld) August 14, 2013
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As Stupid as I Look Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:45:30am |
re: #265 Gus
I really doubt they would have liked Rush Holt. The only reason some showed some interest in him is because of Greenwald. Holt is still not left enough for these people.
They’re so far left they’ve hooked up with rwnjs. I find it funny they don’t realize their own extremism.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:50:43am |
Plug for a Slate photoessay on the persistent, but somewhat dated, Klan.
The photos record a lot of material culture kit that can be illuminating (and depressing).
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:51:44am |
re: #268 NJDhockeyfan
I just spoke to a county cop friend of mine. They are looking hard for Alexis but most of them feel she’s probably dead. Fucked up shit.
My impression is that, unfortunately, Ms. Murphy is deceased; I know everyone’s hoping for another scenario like the Ariel Castro sex slave incident with the three young women, but I doubt that’s the case this time.
In regard to Mr. Taylor, the latest I’ve seen is that he was indeed incarcerated when Alicia Showalter Reynolds was murdered; that rules him out for that particular homicide, and possibly rules him out as the Route 29 Stalker.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:51:51am |
re: #275 b_sharp
They’re so far left they’ve hooked up with rwnjs. I find it funny they don’t realize their own extremism.
I have yet to meet an extremist of any stripe—political, religious, or secular—who’s able to see his/her own extremism. After all, they have The Truth™ on their side. How can stating obvious truth possibly be considered “extreme”?
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:52:13am |
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:52:30am |
re: #276 Gus
Time to cut off all aid to Egypt.
RWNJ’s blaming the situation in Egypt on OBAMA!!!11!!!
BECAZ OBAMA TOTALLY HEARTS TMB!!!!11!!!
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:53:17am |
re: #280 Dr Lizardo
And here we go.
Updated: 149 dead, 1,403 injured in #Egypt clashes - @aymanm http://t.co/QmZ5fUL5zL— NBC News (@NBCNews) August 14, 2013
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geoffm33 Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:53:26am |
I’ve got a question about the Rodeo Clown incident vis-a-vis racism. Does the clown wearing the mask by itself make it racist? Or is it the other clown plying with the lips on the BO mask make it so?
Having the broom stick stuck where the sun don’t shine and the “We’re going to stomp Obama now.” makes it distasteful/repulsive/borderline psychotic.
What is your opinions on this? Overt racism, thinly veiled racism, what?
My opinion is that the attention to the lips of the mask crossed the line.
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:53:57am |
re: #281 Vicious Babushka
RWNJ’s blaming the situation in Egypt on OBAMA!!!11!!!
BECAZ OBAMA TOTALLY HEARTS TMB!!!!11!!!
Yep. But the reality is now both sides in Egypt are trying to blame the USA. SNAFU. Time to get out of Dodge.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:54:50am |
re: #283 geoffm33
I’ve got a question about the Rodeo Clown incident vis-a-vis racism. Does the clown wearing the mask by itself make it racist? Or is it the other clown plying with the lips on the BO mask make it so?
Having the broom stick stuck where the sun don’t shine and the “We’re going to stomp Obama now.” makes it distasteful/repulsive/borderline psychotic.
What is your opinions on this? Overt racism, thinly veiled racism, what?
My opinion is that the attention to the lips of the mask crossed the line.
It was the commentary by Rodeo Announcer Mark Ficken that set the mood.
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:55:04am |
Peggy Noonan: Obama should defend Missouri rodeo clown: http://t.co/UbmLF105kP— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) August 14, 2013
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:55:41am |
You can bet you are on the wrong side if you are trying to silence others. Remember: “it's art.” “It's comedy”? #Weareallrodeoclowns— Glenn Beck (@glennbeck) August 14, 2013
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:56:16am |
#Egyptian vice-president, Mohammed El Baradei, has resigned from the interim government following the violence against the protesters.— BBC Africa (@BBCAfrica) August 14, 2013
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Decatur Deb Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:56:19am |
re: #283 geoffm33
I’ve got a question about the Rodeo Clown incident vis-a-vis racism. Does the clown wearing the mask by itself make it racist? Or is it the other clown plying with the lips on the BO mask make it so?
Having the broom stick stuck where the sun don’t shine and the “We’re going to stomp Obama now.” makes it distasteful/repulsive/borderline psychotic.
What is your opinions on this? Overt racism, thinly veiled racism, what?
My opinion is that the attention to the lips of the mask crossed the line.
From the bits of this that make it through the media, that is the most striking tell. Otherwise, what I’ve seen could be passed as extreme seditious partisanship
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:56:53am |
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:57:14am |
re: #282 Gus
[Embedded content]
The last thing anyone needs - and not just the Egyptian people, but the entire region - is another civil war going in. Syria has become a protracted war of attrition, Iraq is on the verge of all-out sectarian warfare and now if Egypt plunges into the abyss, well, shit.
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Lidane Wed, Aug 14, 2013 8:57:42am |
Doctors Without Borders pulls out of Somalia http://t.co/i6qc7E4xd9— Huffington Post (@HuffingtonPost) August 14, 2013
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geoffm33 Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:00:32am |
re: #285 Vicious Babushka
re: #289 Decatur Deb
Yeah, that’s what I figure. But hey, #weareallrodeoclowns
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:01:54am |
re: #286 Gus
Peggy Noonan: Obama should defend Missouri rodeo clown: http://t.co/UbmLF105kP
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) August 14, 2013
I hope someone remembers to confiscate Peggy’s car keys….
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:02:51am |
re: #287 Vicious Babushka
At least he’s now admitting he’s a clown.
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:02:56am |
re: #287 Vicious Babushka
You can bet you are on the wrong side if you are trying to silence others. Remember: “it’s art.” “It’s comedy”? #Weareallrodeoclowns
— Glenn Beck (@glennbeck) August 14, 2013
Hey, we’re the real victims here!
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:04:03am |
re: #287 Vicious Babushka
You can bet you are on the wrong side if you are trying to silence others. Remember: “it’s art.” “It’s comedy”? #Weareallrodeoclowns
— Glenn Beck (@glennbeck) August 14, 2013
Ah yes how I fondly remember Beck’s defense of the right to free speech when he was telling the 9-11 widows he didn’t like to shut up./
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geoffm33 Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:04:09am |
I have the freedom to say whatever the hell I want! You have the freedom to ignore me. #WeAreAllRodeoClowns— Jess (@jesie_ann) August 14, 2013
The 1st amendment doesn’t say what you think it says.
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efuseakay Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:05:37am |
Anyone else getting a Http/1.1 Service Unavailable error with nytimes.com ???
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:05:38am |
Developing - the NYT website is down/missing/hacked/unavailable.
Http/1.1 Service Unavailable
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:05:43am |
re: #286 Gus
Peggy Noonan: Obama should defend Missouri rodeo clown: http://t.co/UbmLF105kP
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) August 14, 2013
The question is, why didn’t Obomo go to the Missouri fair and volunteer to be stampeded by the bull? That would have shown real class. Instead he vacations in the country of Vineyard. //
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Eventual Carrion Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:06:38am |
re: #298 geoffm33
The 1st amendment doesn’t say what you think it says.
Yeah, he should try yelling “There’s a bomb in the basement!” of a federal courthouse and see how much he is allowed to say anything anywhere goes.
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:07:00am |
re: #301 lawhawk
Developing - the NYT website is down/missing/hacked/unavailable.
Http/1.1 Service Unavailable
New York Times page goes down, forcing Brooks, Friedman, and Douthat to lecture and scold random people in the street.— Bearded Stoner (@beardedstoner) August 14, 2013
When the New York Times comes back, it's going to be all GIFs and lists. You asked for this, America.— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) August 14, 2013
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Decatur Deb Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:07:11am |
re: #301 lawhawk
Developing - the NYT website is down/missing/hacked/unavailable/forgot it’s point.
Http/1.1 Service Unavailable
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:08:07am |
re: #294 Bulworth
I hope someone remembers to confiscate Peggy’s car keys….
Peggy Noonan stayed at a shitty airport motel in Pittsburgh AND ITZ OBAMAZ FAULT!!11!!
Check out this whiny White Privilege:
I’m in Pittsburgh, making my way to the airport hotel. The people movers are broken and we pull our bags along the dingy carpet. There’s an increasing sense in America now that the facades are intact but the machinery inside is broken.
The hotel has entrances on two floors. I search for the lobby, find it. Travelers are milling about, but there’s no information desk, no doorman, no bellman or concierge, just two harried-looking workers at a front desk on the second level. The man who checked me in put his phones on hold when I asked for someone to accompany me upstairs. As we walked to the room I felt I should explain. I told him a trial attorney had told me a while back that there are more lawsuits involving hotels than is generally known, and more crime, so always try to have someone with you when you first go to your room. I thought the hotel clerk would pooh-pooh this. Instead he said, “That’s why we just put up mirrors at each end of the hall, so you can see if someone’s coming.” He made it sound like an amenity.
“What should we do then, scream?” I asked. He laughed and shrugged: “Yeah.”
Things are getting pretty bare-bones in America. Doormen, security, bellmen, people working the floor—that’s maybe a dozen jobs that should have been filled, at one little hotel on one day in one town.
Concierge, bellhop, doorman at an AIRPORT HOTEL?
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:09:45am |
Your ODS Derp O’The Day:
Know what would be REALLY popular at a rodeo? A Mohammad clown, but Emperor Obama will do. #p2 #uniteblue #tcot pic.twitter.com/F9rLeNfBLo— Sam Danger (@javaguysammckee) August 14, 2013
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:09:58am |
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:09:58am |
re: #307 Vicious Babushka
Things are getting pretty bare-bones in America. Doormen, security, bellmen, people working the floor—that’s maybe a dozen jobs that should have been filled, at one little hotel on one day in one town.
It’s called Austerity. Learn to love it.
Seriously, is there no one left to protect Peggy from herself?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:10:10am |
re: #301 lawhawk
Developing - the NYT website is down/missing/hacked/unavailable.
Http/1.1 Service Unavailable
Did they forget to pay their internet bill?
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:10:56am |
Just now….New York Times website is under cyber attack #NYT #CyberSecurity— Turney Duff (@turneyduff) August 14, 2013
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:11:01am |
re: #283 geoffm33
I’ve got a question about the Rodeo Clown incident vis-a-vis racism. Does the clown wearing the mask by itself make it racist? Or is it the other clown plying with the lips on the BO mask make it so?
Having the broom stick stuck where the sun don’t shine and the “We’re going to stomp Obama now.” makes it distasteful/repulsive/borderline psychotic.
What is your opinions on this? Overt racism, thinly veiled racism, what?
My opinion is that the attention to the lips of the mask crossed the line.
I’d say that it is something where you can’t point at a single particular detail and say it made it “racist” whereas another detail did not. Sort of a collective effect where you *know* it’s racist. The whole performance went way over the line in multiple ways.
On a separate note burning or mauling a political figure in effigy as part of a protest is well established*. Doing so as part of what is supposed to be generally non-partisan entertainment is something else, and part of what makes this incident particularly repulsive.
* - And there is also some ground within political satire. Though usually there is some measure of restraint and respect shown in the established media.
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:11:11am |
re: #309 Vicious Babushka
Your ODS Derp O’The Day:
Know what would be REALLY popular at a rodeo? A Mohammad clown, but Emperor Obama will do. #p2 #uniteblue #tcot pic.twitter.com/F9rLeNfBLo
— Sam Danger (@javaguysammckee) August 14, 2013
The new Amercia: hotels understaffed because of Obomocare and rodeoclowns forced into citizen re-education camps. //
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ProTARDISLiberal Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:12:09am |
So, apparently Egypt’s military lost their fucking biscuits?
And McCain is blaming Kerry. Does that sound right?
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:12:34am |
re: #300 efuseakay
Anyone else getting a Http/1.1 Service Unavailable error with nytimes.com ???
Yep.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:13:03am |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:13:10am |
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:13:36am |
Social Security turns 78 today. Under Paul Ryan's plan, it would be eligible for Social Security in only 8 more years.— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) August 14, 2013
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Ian G. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:16:45am |
re: #307 Vicious Babushka
Peggy Noonan stayed at a shitty airport motel in Pittsburgh AND ITZ OBAMAZ FAULT!!11!!
Check out this whiny White Privilege:
Concierge, bellhop, doorman at an AIRPORT HOTEL?
That’s up there with her “Romney is going to win, I can sense it, because everyone at my Chevy Chase country club is going to vote for him” idiocy from last fall.
Also,
Things are getting pretty bare-bones in America. Doormen, security, bellmen, people working the floor—that’s maybe a dozen jobs that should have been filled, at one little hotel on one day in one town.
Well, the obvious solution is to bust the unions that might make such jobs desirable to working-class people, right Peggy?
What a maroon.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:17:21am |
There are technical difficulties at http://t.co/i5NQrTmXJp that we hope to resolve soon. For news on Egypt's crisis, follow @nytimesworld— The New York Times (@nytimes) August 14, 2013
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Dr. Matt Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:17:51am |
re: #309 Vicious Babushka
Your ODS Derp O’The Day:
“Emperor Obama”? WTF. If Obama is an “Emperor” why would he be painted as a mime with a USSR sickle. Jebus, these teatards are fucking goofy.
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:17:54am |
re: #307 Vicious Babushka
Wait, she stayed at a motel and was complaining about the service because it wasn’t up to the level of say the DC Grand Hyatt? Really?
She’s right that the infrastructure around the nation has gone to crap. We build and forget that building stuff requires regular and periodic maintenance. It even means having to replace and rebuild stuff better as new technologies come along.
The GOP is strangling the government’s ability to maintain the basic stuff of infrastructure. And that means big plans (even the misguided Musk hyperloop) wont get done because they require lots of money.
Let’s just forget that it cost billions to build the national highway system, and that system is approaching the end of its design life (and in many cases already surpassed it by a significant margin).
Highways and bridges and tunnels alone can’t get everyone to their destination. Airports and air traffic control systems need upgrades that have been in the works for years and still not fully implemented.
High speed rail has been long sought, especially on the NEC, and yet starved of money despite its necessity and ability to take the load off the overburdened air traffic system in the Northeast.
Oh, and who’s fault is it that the owner of the hotel put profits over all else, including hiring people to fill various jobs that she complains about not being filled?
The GOP is busy blaming Obama for Obamacare being the reason hiring isn’t happening, or businesses are shifting costs to avoid hiring, but that ignores that businesses have long put profits over employee well being, including their health.
If they didn’t have to provide health care benefits (and the tax code includes benefits to businesses that do), they wouldn’t. Same with paid sick leave and other employee protections.
Some businesses are more attuned to employee well being and pay better wages, but they are in the minority. That has to change, but there’s no easy solution. It has to take a different mindset in the business community that paying better wages means more productivity, better performance, and can stimulate the economy since the money goes back into buying some of the very products being offered.
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:18:19am |
re: #322 Ian G.
That’s up there with her “Romney is going to win, I can sense it, because everyone at my Chevy Chase country club is going to vote for him” idiocy from last fall.
Heh; like the quote attributed to Pauline Kael, who allegedly remarked, “How could Nixon have been re-elected? No one I know voted for him!”
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:18:32am |
re: #322 Ian G.
That’s up there with her “Romney is going to win, I can sense it, because everyone at my Chevy Chase country club is going to vote for him” idiocy from last fall.
This is what happens when you have vodka tonics for breakfast.
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:18:40am |
OMG OMG OMG THE NYTIMES WEBSITE IS DOWN DOES THIS MEAN WE’RE UNDER A CYBER ATTACK BY THE NSA OR ANONYMOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????
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Decatur Deb Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:19:11am |
re: #307 Vicious Babushka
Peggy Noonan stayed at a shitty airport motel in Pittsburgh AND ITZ OBAMAZ FAULT!!11!!
Check out this whiny White Privilege:
Concierge, bellhop, doorman at an AIRPORT HOTEL?
Guess she hasn’t seen the new travel reimbursement allowances yet.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:19:52am |
re: #328 Gus
OMG OMG OMG THE NYTIMES WEBSITE IS DOWN DOES THIS MEAN WE’RE UNDER A CYBER ATTACK BY THE NSA OR ANONYMOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????
Maybe an unpaid intern took the web server offline?
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Ian G. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:20:18am |
re: #282 Gus
What’s the chance that Israel doesn’t get drawn into an Egyptian civil war? It has to be approaching zero, right?
I think we’re on the verge of the Middle East’s 30 Years War here. The whole region is going to go up in flames.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:20:32am |
re: #325 lawhawk
America has to be fraying at the cuffs so Obama can be the new ‘malaise’ president.
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geoffm33 Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:21:10am |
re: #314 Feline Fearless Leader
I’d say that it is something where you can’t point at a single particular detail and say it made it “racist” whereas another detail did not. Sort of a collective effect where you *know* it’s racist. The whole performance went way over the line in multiple ways.
On a separate note burning or mauling a political figure in effigy as part of a protest is well established*. Doing so as part of what is supposed to be generally non-partisan entertainment is something else, and part of what makes this incident particularly repulsive.
* - And there is also some ground within political satire. Though usually there is some measure of restraint and respect shown in the established media.
I agree with most of what you typed. But if you do take it piece by piece, the only thing that makes sense in a racial context is playing on the stereotype of the masks lips. The simple fact of wearing the mask can’t be racist (unless it was blackface, this was just a halloween mask). Saying we’re gonna stomp Obama is ridiculously inappropriate and, as DecaturDeb said, “extreme seditious partisanship”.
I don’t know, I sound like I’m making excuses for it to “not” be racism.
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:21:30am |
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:21:39am |
re: #330 Vicious Babushka
Maybe an unpaid intern took the web server offline?
An intern ran off with the web server to Hong Kong because FREEDOM!
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:22:13am |
re: #330 Vicious Babushka
Maybe an unpaid intern took the web server offline?
IT’S DOWN BECAUSE THEY JUST PUBLISHED SOMETHING ABOUT THE CLINTON FOUNDATION!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dr. Matt Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:22:32am |
@Peggynoonannyc blames President Obama because she didn't get a mint on her pillow at an airport hotel #hack #RWNJ http://t.co/9vEDMt3T8D
— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) August 14, 2013
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:22:35am |
re: #283 geoffm33
I’ve got a question about the Rodeo Clown incident vis-a-vis racism. Does the clown wearing the mask by itself make it racist? Or is it the other clown plying with the lips on the BO mask make it so?
Having the broom stick stuck where the sun don’t shine and the “We’re going to stomp Obama now.” makes it distasteful/repulsive/borderline psychotic.
What is your opinions on this? Overt racism, thinly veiled racism, what?
My opinion is that the attention to the lips of the mask crossed the line.
How about infantile, asinine and tasteless? How about also repulsive enough to visitors of the state fair that it warranted their suspension? I am sure they can more than make up for the lost income by going on the private conservstive rodeo circuit…
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:23:58am |
Not kidding. There’s already a New York Times Website Down-Clinton conspiracy.
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efuseakay Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:24:13am |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:24:59am |
re: #328 Gus
OMG OMG OMG THE NYTIMES WEBSITE IS DOWN DOES THIS MEAN WE’RE UNDER A CYBER ATTACK BY THE NSA OR ANONYMOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????
No, Bezos did it!
New York Times is down. Bezos buys Wash. Post and days later this. Coincidence? ;) #nytimes pic.twitter.com/oUaqsBS3kA— Grant Burhans (@grantburhans) August 14, 2013
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Dr. Matt Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:25:09am |
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:25:32am |
re: #331 Ian G.
Israel is going to do all it can to avoid that. They’ll likely endure more in the way of mortar/missile attacks like those that prompted the UAV strike in Sinai, but those are manageable. It wont involve the Egyptian military though, and even Hamas isn’t likely to push for a full war, which in the current environment lacks a strong backer to provide with the weapons and support.
Israel will remain relatively stable compared to its northern and southern neighbors. I’d be much more concerned about Jordan though, which has so far avoided the violence and conflict along its borders (Iraq and Syria), even though a significant refugee population now huddles in safety. If Jordan falls into the violence, it could spiral into Saudi Arabia as well.
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:25:40am |
Woot! Got a RT from CC:Indecision…
.@indecision Before it comes to an end the NY Times website will be singing Daisy Bell. “Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do…”— Gus (@Gus_802) August 14, 2013
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:25:52am |
Re: NYT website down.
That was just Snowjob demonstrating his amazing skillz for the FSB.
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:26:48am |
re: #346 Justanotherhuman
Re: NYT website down.
That was just Snowjob demonstrating his amazing skillz for the FSB.
EDWARD SNOWDEN HAS HACKED THE NY TIMES BECAUSE OF THAT EDITORIAL FROM LAST WEEK DEMANDING THAT HE BE EXTRADITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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geoffm33 Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:27:27am |
re: #338 Sol Berdinowitz
How about infantile, asinine and tasteless? How about also repulsive enough to visitors of the state fair that it warranted their suspension? I am sure they can more than make up for the lost income by going on the private conservstive rodeo circuit…
Glenn Beck’s Super Patriotic Rodeo Jubilee
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:27:40am |
re: #307 Vicious Babushka
Heh. I know the Pittsburgh airport and that place is literally in the middle of the airport parking lots along the run of a few long people movers running out into the middle of said lots. That the movers can be down should not be surprising since that happens.
Hyatt Regency. 3 1/2 stars according to Expedia. At that rating you’d expect a little more staff about than just desk clerks. But also won’t be bustling that much since it’s just not that sort of place. Also curious what time she turned up - if it was after a late flight in there will be fewer staff around.
Also, it’s an airport hotel. I avoid those simply due to the noise!
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CuriousLurker Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:27:55am |
Looks like the NY Times might be having DNS/nameserver issues. That can be a PITA depending on how long it takes the correction(s) to propagate.
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b.d. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:29:11am |
re: #328 Gus
OMG OMG OMG THE NYTIMES WEBSITE IS DOWN DOES THIS MEAN WE’RE UNDER A CYBER ATTACK BY THE NSA OR ANONYMOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????
And the US Gvt. better not be looking to see who is doing this either!!1!!
Those nosey bastards!!
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:30:40am |
re: #349 Feline Fearless Leader
Also, it’s an airport hotel. I avoid those simply due to the noise!
Airport hotels are for:
1. Flight crew
2. Connecting flight layovers
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b.d. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:31:59am |
re: #352 Vicious Babushka
Airport hotels are for:
1. Flight crew
2. Connecting flight layovers
Oh Oh!!!
Raises Hand!!
And emoprog defecting thieves.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:34:05am |
re: #349 Feline Fearless Leader
Heh. I know the Pittsburgh airport and that place is literally in the middle of the airport parking lots along the run of a few long people movers running out into the middle of said lots. That the movers can be down should not be surprising since that happens.
Hyatt Regency. 3 1/2 stars according to Expedia. At that rating you’d expect a little more staff about than just desk clerks. But also won’t be bustling that much since it’s just not that sort of place. Also curious what time she turned up - if it was after a late flight in there will be fewer staff around.
Also, it’s an airport hotel. I avoid those simply due to the noise!
If only Romney had won!! There would be small herds of Pittsburgh urchins eager to carry bags and luggage for a copper. Takes six or seven of the tubercular ones to carry a well-fed journalist, though.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:34:17am |
re: #350 CuriousLurker
Looks like the NY Times might be having DNS/nameserver issues. That can be a PITA depending on how long it takes the correction(s) to propagate.
PETA is in on it too?
//
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:34:52am |
At this point everyone trying to bring up the NYTimes page is going to mimic a DDOS attack.
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Stanley Sea Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:34:59am |
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:35:14am |
http://t.co/f0cMsksqJe Republicans Want To Impeach Obama For the Crime of Being President While Black #Racism #UniteBlue #Democrats #labor— cowboytexas (@cowboytexas) August 14, 2013
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CuriousLurker Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:35:33am |
re: #355 NJDhockeyfan
PETA is in on it too?
//
LOL, only if their homepage gets replaced with a photo of a nude celebrity.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:36:24am |
Obviously, Jeff Bezos has no political agenda. Obviously: http://t.co/LdvTnGv8Vq http://t.co/0TzjEuNOIg http://t.co/H6HV4auh3F— David Sirota (@davidsirota) August 14, 2013
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:37:51am |
re: #356 Gus
Fortunately got my old-school hardcopy right here…
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:39:25am |
re: #361 Bulworth
Fortunately got my old-school hardcopy right here…
Look for the sticker on the back that says “This paper will self destruct in 5 minutes”
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:39:42am |
re: #333 geoffm33
I agree with most of what you typed. But if you do take it piece by piece, the only thing that makes sense in a racial context is playing on the stereotype of the masks lips. The simple fact of wearing the mask can’t be racist (unless it was blackface, this was just a halloween mask). Saying we’re gonna stomp Obama is ridiculously inappropriate and, as DecaturDeb said, “extreme seditious partisanship”.
I don’t know, I sound like I’m making excuses for it to “not” be racism.
This is a bit like a fraternity “hazing” discussion. There’s a line, you know when it’s been crossed, but it’s also very hard to point at the ground and say that is where the line is.
There’s a lot of behaviors that are obviously way over that line, but often you don’t sit down and plan of jumping over the line.* Things work their way there in increments and then sidle across. The mask - OK, a bit edgy. Then the announcer rhetoric gets added. Then something else.
Plus while it might get by amongst themselves as a in-joke (and probably started as a prank while practicing or something) it will not pass as a public display since their actions also represent broader groups like the Missouri State Fair. With membership comes responsibilities as representatives of that group and all that.
* - This is a place where hazing and political commentary differ. The latter often *wants* to jump the line in order to garner attention. The former, barring mental illness, are hopefully not sitting there and seriously discussing how they can physically or mentally abuse their pledges simply for the sake of abusing them.**
** - If they are I hope they get criminally prosecuted for it. But let’s avoid the paddle-wielding pledge master stereotype and assume for a minute it’s a few young adults trying to develop an activity that will help bring a group of young men together and they are not being very clear in working out consequences.
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efuseakay Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:40:16am |
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:41:51am |
re: #354 Decatur Deb
If only Romney had won!! There would be small herds of Pittsburgh urchins eager to carry bags and luggage for a copper. Takes six or seven of the tubercular ones to carry a well-fed journalist, though.
Given the airport location they’d have to import the urchins from somewhere miles away. Unless they build a little shanty town for them just beyond the parking lots.
/
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:42:35am |
re: #360 Vicious Babushka
Obviously Jeff Bezos taking over the Wash Post is the most dire, tragic news of the day/week/month. Other than NSA assault. //
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:43:14am |
The NY Times website is down…. or attempting suicide as a result of the latest Maureen Dowd piece..— Ignacio Carrion (@igcarr) August 14, 2013
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Kragar Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:43:31am |
Barton: We Haven’t Had Global Warming In Sixteen Years
Barton insisted that while global warming does occur, is it not man-made but rather happens naturally and is no different than normal temperature fluctuations.
“Global warming occurs,” Barton stated, but “we haven’t had it in sixteen years. But anthropogenic? That hasn’t been proved at all, not by a long shot. Anthropogenic means man-caused global warming. I mean, we’ve got cycles, you bet. That’s why we have averages. That’s why in Texas we go from summers of 70 degrees to summers of a 120 degrees. I mean, it’s averages.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:43:37am |
re: #367 Feline Fearless Leader
Given the airport location they’d have to import the urchins from somewhere miles away. Unless they build a little shanty town for them just beyond the parking lots.
/
Probably a bunch of pre-9/11 coin lockers in storage somewhere.
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Lidane Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:44:18am |
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Ian G. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:44:21am |
re: #371 Kragar
I see he understands climate science about as well as he understands American history.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:44:27am |
Interesting. In addition to NYT website being down, it appears I cannot receive work account emails; I can, however, successfully send them.— Charlie Savage (@charlie_savage) August 14, 2013
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:44:41am |
re: #370 Gus
MoDowd is only a step above the Nooners at this point.
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Kragar Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:45:55am |
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:45:59am |
http://t.co/dwrqaPPd5v is down! Luckily we printed it out for you last night. $2— Renda Morton (@rendamorton) August 14, 2013
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:47:37am |
We could starting tweeting articles, sentence by sentence. First up! Jockey…— Nick Corasaniti (@NYTnickc) August 14, 2013
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Lidane Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:47:50am |
Separation of church and state, how the fuck does it work?
Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate: Amend Constitution to allow taxpayer funding for religious schools http://t.co/8LN4dr47lk— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) August 14, 2013
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b.d. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:47:54am |
re: #375 NJDhockeyfan
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Not being able to receive emails but being able to send them sounds freaking perfect to me.
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:48:33am |
re: @nytimes - We believe the outage is the result of an internal issue, which we expect to be resolved soon.— NYTCo Communications (@NYTimesComm) August 14, 2013
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CuriousLurker Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:48:34am |
OT: Just a reminder that—like non-Muslims—peaceful, law-abiding Muslims who are minding their own business are also murdered by militant Islamists.
Agents: 44 gunned down in Nigeria mosque
MAIDUGURI, Nigeria (AP) — Suspected Islamic militants wearing army fatigues gunned down 44 people praying at a mosque in northeast Nigeria, while another 12 civilians died in an apparently simultaneous attack, security agents said Monday.
Sunday’s attacks were the latest in a slew of violence blamed on religious extremists in this West African oil producer, where the radical Boko Haram group, which wants to oust the government and impose Islamic law, poses the greatest security threat in years.
It was not immediately clear why the Islamic Boko Haram would have killed worshipping Muslims, but the group has in the past attacked mosques whose clerics have spoken out against religious extremism. Boko Haram also has attacked Christians outside churches and teachers and schoolchildren, as well as government and military targets. […]
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:49:25am |
re: #372 Decatur Deb
Probably a bunch of pre-9/11 coin lockers in storage somewhere.
Or bring in a couple of rusty cargo containers as a starting foundation.
Though the coin lockers will be more profitable since you can then charge the urchins to access their beds and support the capitalist system.
/
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:50:36am |
BREAKING: @nytimes Receives Pulitzer For Coverage Of 'Http/1.1 Service Unavailable' Story— The Onion (@TheOnion) August 14, 2013
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Decatur Deb Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:50:40am |
re: #366 efuseakay
Seems to be one recurring theme with these idiots…
The photographer is trying to grow into a serious photojournalist. His stuff is more like an anthropological movement of the 70’s—the use of detailed images to capture the cultural inventory of a group. It de-emphasized words and locked onto the organization and inter-relations of images and artifacts. Like applying archaeology to a living culture.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:52:00am |
re: #384 Gus
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So … is it better that the problem is self-inflicted? Somehow, I find that more unsettling.— Stephanie Strom (@ssstrom) August 14, 2013
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Decatur Deb Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:52:18am |
re: #386 Feline Fearless Leader
Or bring in a couple of rusty cargo containers as a starting foundation.
Though the coin lockers will be more profitable since you can then charge the urchins to access their beds and support the capitalist system.
/
Snowdenvilles.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:53:16am |
Oh, good. Time Warner Cable says it's aware of the http://t.co/4fASL44vMX outage, can send a technician between 1-4 pm on the 29th.— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) August 14, 2013
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:53:47am |
re: #385 CuriousLurker
The overwhelming majority of those targeted by Islamist terrorists like al Qaeda have been fellow Muslims. It’s part target of opportunity, and part of strategy to cow the majority into subservience and obedience to the Islamists.
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b.d. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:55:25am |
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:55:57am |
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 9:58:43am |
re: #394 b.d.
And that’s after Greenwald and others were saying that corporations are there to stave off the government? These people are divorced from reality and are living in their own thought bubbles.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:00:26am |
http://t.co/PybjFTgDfW is down the instant http://t.co/mWm7HlsIVw's redesign is up! Coincidence? Or the best evil scheme ever? #nprlaunch— Eric Westby (@ewestby) August 14, 2013
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:00:48am |
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CuriousLurker Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:01:42am |
re: #393 lawhawk
The overwhelming majority of those targeted by Islamist terrorists like al Qaeda have been fellow Muslims. It’s part target of opportunity, and part of strategy to cow the majority into subservience and obedience to the Islamists.
Yep, I read about it pretty much every day, thanks to my Google alerts. Most of the stories don’t even make it to the (US) national news.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:03:39am |
re: #400 CuriousLurker
Yep, I read about it pretty much every day, thanks to my Google alerts. Most of the stories don’t even make it to the (US) national news.
Cut us some slack. We’ve only reported futbol for 10 years or so.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:03:58am |
BREAKING: Judge sentences Jesse Jackson Jr. to 2.5 years in prison after guilty plea in campaign case. -SS— The Associated Press (@AP) August 14, 2013
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Kragar Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:04:43am |
Moronic Convergence
Huckabee asks Nugent to turn his hunting dog ‘loose on some Democrats’
“Nobody hunts more than the Nugent family,” Nugent explained. “We literally hunt anywhere between 250 and 300 days a year. And you think Gonzo is good on ducks, you should see him on squirrels and doves and rabbits and woodcock and grouse. He really is a mystical, wonderful hunting dog.”
“Well, maybe we ought to turn him loose on some Democrats and see if he can hunt them too,” Huckabee suggested.
“Well, there’s a lot of varmints out there,” Nugent agreed. “I think he would do good pointing to varmints and then we could vote them out of office. What do you say?”
“I’m all about it,” Huckabee replied.
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:06:12am |
re: #404 Kragar
ducks, you should see him on squirrels and doves and rabbits and woodcock and grouse
Geez, Nugent, pick on something a little more dangerous, pansy.
/
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:06:33am |
re: #400 CuriousLurker
Yep, I read about it pretty much every day, thanks to my Google alerts. Most of the stories don’t even make it to the (US) national news.
A lot Americans like to call themselves anti-war or non-violent yet many of the same are largely silent about incidents like the one in Nigeria. They say, no to war in Syria while in fact there is a war raging in Syria. They like to blame the Iraq war on sectarian violence in Iraq without acknowledging that said sectarian violence has been going on for decades. The only thing that masked this violence for a period was the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein. It’s largely Sunni vs. Shia with Shia losing out the most.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:06:59am |
In my page about a consulting firm billing (bankrupt) city of Detroit $275/hr for an entry-level “financial consultant” there are some trolls justifying this salary as “norm for the industry.”
WTF, I have spent 20 years in the WRONG FIELD.
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geoffm33 Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:07:18am |
re: #404 Kragar
Moronic Convergence
Huckabee asks Nugent to turn his hunting dog ‘loose on some Democrats’
Blah blah blah woodcock blah blah.
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:07:25am |
re: #404 Kragar
Hey we’re just joking around here, all in fun, yuk, yuk, yuk. And the only people using violent, divisive rhetoric are you people calling us out on our violent, divisive rhetoric.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:07:50am |
re: #404 Kragar
Moronic Convergence
Huckabee asks Nugent to turn his hunting dog ‘loose on some Democrats’
For a Nugent quote, that sounds like “Take 4”, after a chop from Huckabee’s legals.
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geoffm33 Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:07:55am |
re: #408 Vicious Babushka
In my page about a consulting firm billing (bankrupt) city of Detroit $275/hr for an entry-level “financial consultant” there are some trolls justifying this salary as “norm for the industry.”
WTF, I have spent 20 years in the WRONG FIELD.
Yeah but eff that blacksmith guy making 50K (including benefits).
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gwangung Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:08:18am |
re: #404 Kragar
Moronic Convergence
Huckabee asks Nugent to turn his hunting dog ‘loose on some Democrats’
I got a 2nd Amendment solution for you, Ted.
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:08:41am |
re: #408 Vicious Babushka
In my page about a consulting firm billing (bankrupt) city of Detroit $275/hr for an entry-level “financial consultant” there are some trolls justifying this salary as “norm for the industry.”
WTF, I have spent 20 years in the WRONG FIELD.
Holy shit I’ve been undercharging!
…
150 for a noob tech. Yeah….right….
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:09:37am |
http://t.co/6shOLZTGbr web site slowly returning. Try it.— Marc Lacey (@marclacey) August 14, 2013
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:10:20am |
re: #415 NJDhockeyfan
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Derp. Now that he said that it’ll get overloaded again.
Heh.
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:12:08am |
Do I even want to know what they charge for a pro???
Yeesh.
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:12:24am |
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:12:57am |
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:13:34am |
re: #419 Varek Raith
EVERYONE TURN ON YOUR APPLIANCES ALL AT ONCE!
EVERYONE FLUSH THE TOILET ALL AT ONCE!!11!!
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Kragar Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:14:12am |
FIFA To Russia: Please Explain Your Anti-Gay Law To Us
FIFA has asked authorities in 2018 World Cup host Russia for “clarification and more details” about a new anti-gay law, joining the International Olympic Committee in seeking answers from Moscow.
Legislation prohibiting “propaganda of nontraditional sexual relations among minors” has provoked an international furor since President Vladimir Putin signed it off in June and sparked growing concern at the IOC leading to the Sochi Winter Games in February.
The two most influential organizations in world sports are both now asking Russia how the law would be enforced during their marquee events.
“FIFA has asked the Russian authorities for clarification and more details on this new law,” soccer’s governing body said in a statement Tuesday.
“Russia has committed to provide all visitors and fans with a warm welcome and ensure their safety” during the monthlong tournament, FIFA said, adding that “FIFA trusts that the 2018 FIFA World Cup hosts will deliver on this promise.”
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:14:25am |
re: #13 darthstar
Too bad Christie was afraid to have both elections on the same day…would have been fun to see him in a tight race.
He was smart not to do so; Without Booker on the ballot, Christie will cruise to victory.
Sad fact of political life: The composition of the overall ballot matters, and you can lose if you end up having a ‘rock-star’ from the other party on the same ballot as you. Having an asshole from your own party can also hurt, but it is often possible to do effective “I’m not with Stupid”-type damage control (as Mark Kirk was able to do and win his Senate seat in 2010. His pro-access-to-abortion record allowed him to escape association with the anti-abortion gubernatorial candidate, Bill Brady.).
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:15:04am |
So clearly the world has forgotten Syria— Matan Lurey (@matanlurey) August 14, 2013
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:15:08am |
re: #420 Vicious Babushka
EVERYONE FLUSH THE TOILET ALL AT ONCE!!11!!
Lol.
You reminded me of something.
In SimCity for the SNES a scenario was that everyone flushed their toilets at the same time during halftime at the Superbowl. The local nuclear plant melted down. You had to fix the city.
….
Why do I remember that….?
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Eventual Carrion Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:15:52am |
re: #404 Kragar
Moronic Convergence
Huckabee asks Nugent to turn his hunting dog ‘loose on some Democrats’
Send your little flea motel after me big boy. You can pick him up in the bag on your way back home. Don’t ever forget, us non-repubs have fire power too. And I guess since we don’t work we have a lot of time for practice.
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:16:12am |
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:16:23am |
re: #425 Varek Raith
Lol.
You reminded me of something.
In SimCity for the SNES a scenario was that everyone flushed their toilets at the same time during halftime at the Superbowl. The local nuclear plant melted down. You had to fix the city.
….
Why do I remember that….?
I was thinking about all the apocalyptic warnings before Y2K.
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:16:50am |
re: #428 Vicious Babushka
I was thinking about all the apocalyptic warnings before Y2K.
Y2K.
Fun times.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:16:50am |
re: #404 Kragar
Moronic Convergence
Huckabee asks Nugent to turn his hunting dog ‘loose on some Democrats’
He’s also apparently been whining that the military favors Islam while harassing Christians.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:16:58am |
2 journalists killed in #Egypt today including cameraman for Sky News http://t.co/93zz3NQqeD— Luke Russert (@LukeRussert) August 14, 2013
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b.d. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:18:26am |
re: #431 NJDhockeyfan
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Why is Luke Russert tweeting that? Isn’t he in San Diego or some other calm place?
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:19:19am |
Grrr….
We can put a man on the moon but we can’t make alt+tab work without breaking something half the time….
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:20:32am |
re: #316 ProTARDISLiberal
So, apparently Egypt’s military lost their fucking biscuits?
And McCain is blaming Kerry. Does that sound right?
The pro-Morsi people aren’t backing down like they were expected to and their fighting back is inflicting casualties. The Daily Mail (Yeah, I know, but even lower grade British newspapers are better for news from Egypt than their US counterparts) has a story, complete with photos, showing an armored police vehicle in Cairo getting pushed off of a bridge, killing 5 policemen. After the other side does things like that you can expect the security forces to be out for blood.
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Lidane Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:21:47am |
Cable news to provide in-depth coverage of Egypt as long as it takes until Chris Christie, Rand Paul or Hillary Clinton say or do anything.— CC:Indecision (@indecision) August 14, 2013
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:24:07am |
What the heck does this mean?
No doubt generals in #Egypt will draw appropriate conclusion from critical US statement by a deputy press secretary, while Obama plays golf— Jackson Diehl (@JacksonDiehl) August 14, 2013
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:24:44am |
re: #434 Varek Raith
Grrr….
We can put a man on the moon but we can’t make alt+tab work without breaking something half the time….
[Seinfeld]It is my opinion that we never should have landed a man on the moon. It’s a mistake. Now everything is compared to that one accomplishment. Now every body goes “I can’t believe they could land a man on the moon … and taste my coffee!” I think we all would have been a lot happier if we hadn’t landed a man on the moon. Then we’d go, They can’t make a prescription bottle top that’s easy to open? I’m not surprised they couldn’t land a man on the moon. Things make perfect sense to me now. Neil Armstrong should have said, “That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for every whining, complaining, SOB on the face of the earth.”[/seinfeld]
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Romantic Heretic Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:25:17am |
re: #334 Varek Raith
Corporate Lobbying Group ALEC Put Falsified Signatures On A Letter To A Senator, Group Finds
OMG! Nooooooo! ///
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:25:32am |
re: #407 Gus
It also touches on something I’ve been saying for quite a while. When media outlets talk about stability or peace in the Middle East, they don’t mean what they say they mean. When oil prices spike because there’s conflict, it’s not because this is some new paradigm. It just means that the situation isn’t predictable.
Arab Spring upended the predictability around regimes that held power for decades with an iron fist. It inserted new factors. It meant upheaval at all levels.
But this is nothing new. There’s been strife across the Middle East for over 2,000 years. The names have changed, but it’s still about the land.
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Gus Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:26:36am |
.@JacksonDiehl This is where an Egyptian president would come in handy don't you think?— Gus (@Gus_802) August 14, 2013
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:27:22am |
re: #437 Gus
What the heck does this mean?
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It is supposed to mean that the generals won’t take a statement from a deputy press secretary seriously, and especially not because the president is “vacationing instead of addressing the crisis”.
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:28:08am |
re: #437 Gus
Egyptian Generals would do whatever U.S. President told them to do if he wasn’t playing golf. Derp. //
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geoffm33 Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:29:29am |
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b.d. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:29:53am |
re: #437 Gus
What the heck does this mean?
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What a jackass Diehl is.
My hunch is that Obama has been in direct talks to Egypt and sent the Depty. Press Sec. out to make a public blanket statement yet Diehl wants it to be the other way around?
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b.d. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:30:27am |
re: #444 geoffm33
Forget it Jake, It’s Rodeo clowns.
Does Mr. Bezos have a suggestion box up yet over at the WP?
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:31:02am |
So, on the one hand you’ve got people complaining that the US shouldn’t be the world’s policemen (the Randian isolationists), and then you’ve got others who think that the President should be burning up the phone lines and satellites pushing the US interests in a fluid developing situation that has no good outcomes?
Lovely options to have.
The President doesn’t have many options here besides putting out press statements. The regime in place is trying to keep the old regime that it considered illegitimate based on the actions taken from returning to power while the old regime considers the current one illegitimate because it was ousted in what can be considered a coup.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:31:20am |
Earlier, mention was made of the big northeastern blackout that happened 10 years ago today.
After 9/11, I decided to set some newspapers and magazines aside so I would have something to show future generations about what happened beyond what you could find online.
After 2001, I continued to collect newspapers and magazines across many major events up to the present day. My collection now includes papers/magazines from events such as:
- 9/11/2002 (one year anniversary)
- Columbia Disaster
- Second Iraq War
- Death of Saddam Hussein
- Asian Tsunami
- 2005 NHL Lockout
- Hurricane Katrina
- Death of Pope John Paul II
- London Terrorist Bombings
- First (and second) election of Barack Obama
- Death of Michael Jackson
- Saints win the Super Bowl
- Death of Osama Bin Laden
And yes, the Northeast blackout that occurred 10 years ago, August 14, 2003 (also my 22nd birthday).
Here’s a photo of those papers and the TIME magazine that followed the event.
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geoffm33 Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:32:50am |
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:34:56am |
re: #448 Eclectic Cyborg
When I was a kid, I collected newspaper headlines from KENNEDY ASSASSINATION! and MAN WALKS ON THE MOON! but found out years later that unless preserved in protective coverings, newsprint will deteriorate very badly.
Having learned that, I still haven’t gotten around to preserving the November, 2008 article in the Birmingham AL newspaper about my son’s “Hasidic dynasty” wedding.
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Ian G. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:35:19am |
re: #447 lawhawk
Also, isn’t the side that’s now killing MB members in the streets the side that the wingnut right wants to win? If the President condemned this, we’d have Geller and Glenn Beck screaming about Muslim Brotherhood infiltration of the White House within nanoseconds.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:37:48am |
re: #450 Vicious Babushka
When I was a kid, I collected newspaper headlines from KENNEDY ASSASSINATION! and MAN WALKS ON THE MOON! but found out years later that unless preserved in protective coverings, newsprint will deteriorate very badly.
Having learned that, I still haven’t gotten around to preserving the November, 2008 article in the Birmingham AL newspaper about my son’s “Hasidic dynasty” wedding.
My collection has held up reasonably well thus far but I do need to get some bagged asap.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:38:27am |
Egypt's ElBaradei resigns in protest after crackdown on protesters | http://t.co/8rRrsrFhYu— UPI.com (@UPI) August 14, 2013
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:38:46am |
BREAKING: Wife of former congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. gets 1 year in prison for filing false tax returns.— The Associated Press (@AP) August 14, 2013
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:38:47am |
re: #449 geoffm33
‘Shopped Stills From Action Movies, with Guns Replaced with Thumbs-Ups
The first Han Solo one and the Batman one are the best.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:39:00am |
re: #453 Eclectic Cyborg
My collection has held up reasonably well thus far but I do need to get some bagged asap.
I guess I should put it in a ziploc bag.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:39:08am |
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Romantic Heretic Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:39:24am |
re: #437 Gus
What the heck does this mean?
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It means Obama is a loser! He should be impeached! Our system must be changed so that no liberal ever again holds public office! Only then will we be safe!
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SchadenBoner Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:39:46am |
re: #450 Vicious Babushka
my son’s “Hasidic dynasty” wedding.
Rather silly fur hats and speculation over who shot JR?
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:40:16am |
Silver lining of NYT web outage: fewer people became stupider b/c a few less web surfers could click over to Tom Friedman's column.— David Sirota (@davidsirota) August 14, 2013
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geoffm33 Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:40:23am |
@OKnox u r dump the president is usa— arnette atkins (@msrenee310) August 14, 2013
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:42:48am |
re: #447 lawhawk
It’s just the usual “the president can do no right” opposition rhetoric. Admitting the ‘no-win’ nature of the situation would undermine the “Obama foreign policy failure” angle many conservatives are playing.
Even more importantly, calling a situation ‘no-win’ would be anathama as doing so would be to:
A. Publicly admit the limits of American power and influence, which in some quarters would be taken and broadcast as an admission of defeat.
B. Put into play a narrative that does not play well with American audiences. America has never liked hearing about the tragic elements of life and politics in its entertainment and there is little to suggest political pronouncements would fare any better.
So the best thing those ring-wing speakers could do would be to say nothing. They can’t really tell the truth about the situation, because most Americans would not want to believe it.
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jaunte Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:42:55am |
re: #450 Vicious Babushka
I have a nice Stars and Stripes cover with 8-inch tall headline type from May 1945: “Hitler Dead.” Maybe I should make it into a jpeg for the next Godwin.
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Lidane Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:43:46am |
“Hoarder House” Full of Records
The 2 Story House was filled to the brim by a 68 year old collector who had lived in the house since his childhood. He passed away in 2011 and the family was shocked at what they discovered. They soon realized why they had never been invited over and why he had been so reclusive. His Car was filled to the brim with records and the family suspected that he had been sleeping there over the last few years, as it was impossible to enter the house. The Bathroom and shower were also full of Records. We didn’t know it was the bathroom until we came upon a toilet.
The Family Tried to sell the house as is, but found it difficult and general word of mouth led them to call Apollo (he had previously been a customer). At first glance, we wanted to “Pass on it” as it looked like a nightmare, but we knew the collector well and figured there could be something worthwhile under all that.
It was actually fairly clean, overall, other than the piles of dust from over the years.
What Kind of records are they?
ALL Kinds. While he combed thrift shops and bought anything interesting to him over the last 10 years, the older stuff showed he also bought a variety of Rock and Rockabilly & Elvis records (His favorite) back in the 50s and 60s and kept them on shelves in pristine condition.
The best thing there? The 45′s, about 20,000 on shelves, mostly all original ‘as new’ store stock Rock & roll & Rockabilly, and oddball stuff, plus hundreds of Pristine EPs ranging from Elvis, Ricky Nelson, Country Artists, to the Rare Carl Perkins Columbia EP.
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:44:16am |
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:44:38am |
Rather comical to see the wingnuts complaining that Obama is sitting by doing nothing as the army goes after the Muslim Brotherhood, the same Brotherhood that they didn’t want to win in the elections (with Morsi as leader) and have repeatedly intimated that Obama supports.
It’s nuts.
Up is down. Black is white.
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geoffm33 Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:44:39am |
HUMP DAAAAAAY! RT @whitehouse: Guess what day it is… pic.twitter.com/a09s0Nldzh— Nerdy Wonka (@NerdyWonka) August 14, 2013
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:44:47am |
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Kragar Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:44:49am |
Swanson and Buehner React to Calls for Tolerance: Pope’s Clothes ‘Gay,’ Desmond Tutu ‘Hates Jesus’
Last week, Dave Swanson and Kevin Buehner of Generations Radio finally got wind of the pope’s declaration that he won’t “judge” gay priests and Bishop Desmond Tutu’s remarks that he would rather go to hell than “a homophobic heaven.”
Naturally, the two were outraged. Reacting to the pope’s comments, Swanson lamented, “‘Gay’ used to mean happy - you know, blessed, happy, rejoicing, rejoicing in the lord - not sort of lustful, licentious, focused on decadent sexuality.”
To which Buehner replied with what he himself described as “a low blow.”
“You know the song, ‘Deck the halls with boughs of holly’? You know that line, ‘Don we now our gay apparel’? Have you seen the pope’s dress?”
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:44:49am |
re: #464 Dark_Falcon
It’s just the usual “the president can do no right” opposition rhetoric. Admitting the ‘no-win’ nature of the situation would undermine the “Obama foreign policy failure” angle many conservatives are playing.
Even more importantly, calling a situation ‘no-win’ would be anathama as doing so would be to:
A. Publicly admit the limits of American power and influence, which in some quarters would be taken and broadcast as an admission of defeat.
B. Put into play a narrative that does not play well with American audiences. America has never liked hearing about the tragic elements of life and politics in its entertainment and there is little to suggest political pronouncements would fare any better.
So the best thing those ring-wing speakers could do would be to say nothing. They can’t really tell the truth about the situation, because most Americans would not want to believe it.
See this thread by Alouette for another example of this phenomenon at work.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:45:31am |
re: #469 lawhawk
Rather comical to see the wingnuts complaining that Obama is sitting by doing nothing as the army goes after the Muslim Brotherhood, the same Brotherhood that they didn’t want to win in the elections (with Morsi as leader) and have repeatedly intimated that Obama supports.
It’s nuts.
Up is down. Black is white.
It’s the classic “no win” with wingnuts on Obama
Either he’s lazy and not doing anything or, if he DOES do something he either waited too long or didn’t do it right.
Edit: I see Dark_Falcon made this point earlier. Credit given where due.
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Ian G. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:46:18am |
More news from Edward Snowden’s shining beacon of human rights.
Greenwald will call me a drooling jingocist soon enough.
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geoffm33 Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:47:17am |
.@SpeakerBoehner: Today @OFA is giving you a #ClimateDenierAward: pic.twitter.com/Em4uedgtQP Why do you deny the science on climate change?— Jennifer Warner (@warnerjennifer) August 14, 2013
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geoffm33 Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:47:40am |
re: #476 geoffm33
I want that award, well not the climate change denier part, but the unicorn!
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Ian G. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:48:14am |
re: #472 Kragar
The straw-grasping from wingnut Catholics over the Pope’s tolerance remarks is breathtaking. Maybe they’ll all leave the Church and join Mel Gibson’s loony breakaway sect over this.
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b.d. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:48:39am |
re: #469 lawhawk
Rather comical to see the wingnuts complaining that Obama is sitting by doing nothing as the army goes after the Muslim Brotherhood, the same Brotherhood that they didn’t want to win in the elections (with Morsi as leader) and have repeatedly intimated that Obama supports.
It’s nuts.
Up is down. Black is white.
Maybe we can get Putin to put the Muslim Brotherhood back in power in Egypt, he’s a REAL American.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:50:16am |
re: #463 Ian G.
Can’t really argue with that.
Is David Sirota all butthurt that Tom Friedman has a column in NYT and he doesn’t?
Ross Douchehat has a column in the NYT tells you all you need to know.
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:50:51am |
re: #467 Lidane
I can’t stop myself:
Newman and Kramer try to pawn off old man’s records:
Ron: I’ll give you five bucks.
Kramer: Five bucks???
Newman: Well, you know how much those records are worth!?
Ron: Yeah, I do… Fi’ dollars.
Newman: Those records are worth more than five dollars!
Kramer: [In Newman’s ear] He’s gyppin’ us…
Newman: You’re gyppin’ us!
Ron: Well, whattya got here, y’know, you got “Don Ho: Live At Honolulu”,
you got “Jerry Vale Sings Italian Love Songs” you got Sergio Mendes,
now come on…
Kramer: Wait, wait, wait… Sergio Mendes has a cult following.
Newman: They follow him like a cult.
Kramer: He can’t even walk down the street in South America…
Ron: Look, that’s his problem, alright? Now you don’t like it, too bad.
Kramer: [In Newman’s ear] I don’t like it…
Newman: I don’t like it.
Ron: Well, then get the Hell out of my store, alright? You bring me
something decent, I’ll give you some money.
Kramer: [In Newman’s ear] Alright, well be back, jack.
Newman: Alright, well be back… *jack*!
snip
Meanwhile, back at Bleeker Bob’s, er, I mean, Ron’s on Bleeker, Kramer and
Newman have brought Ron the clerk “something decent”.
Ron: Twenty bucks.
Newman: Twenty bucks?!? Are you out of your mind?
Ron: Well, take it or leave it.
Newman: Take it or leave it!? We got *Al Jolson* here, *Al Jolson*!!
Ron: Now what the Hell do I care about Al Jolson. I’d just assume her
you sing “Mammy”. Heh heh heh…
Kramer: [In Newman’s ear] This guy’s nothin’ but a piece of crap…
Newman: You are nothing but a piece of crap.
Ron: Pardon me?
Kramer: [In Newman’s ear] A piece of crap…
Newman: A piece of crap.
Kramer: [In Newman’s ear] I find you extremely ugly…
Newman: I find you extremely ugly.
Ron: *Do* you?
Kramer: [In Newman’s ear] You emit a foul and unpleasant odour…
Newman: You emit a foul and unpleasant odour.
Ron: Oh, is that right?
Kramer: [In Newman’s ear] I *loathe* you…
Newman: I *loathe* you.
Ron: That’s it. Get out of my store!
Kramer: [In Newman’s ear] Make us.
Newman: Make us!
Ron: Oh, I’ll make you!
As Ron jumps the counter to get at the boys, we cut to Jerry’s
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Lidane Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:53:57am |
Not trying to blame the victim but if Little Red Riding Hood knew she was entering rival territory why not wear neutral gang colors?— Honest Toddler (@HonestToddler) August 14, 2013
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Ian G. Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:54:08am |
re: #481 Bulworth
That was the best of all Seinfeld episodes. The old man who hated Jerry….I could watch that forever.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:55:52am |
A sinkhole opened up in the ground near Disney World. The line to get in it is already 4 hours long.— Stephen Colbert (@StephenAtHome) August 14, 2013
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Bulworth Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:56:33am |
re: #469 lawhawk
We’re at war with the Egyptian military. We have always been at war with the Muslim Brotherhood Egyptian military.
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Lidane Wed, Aug 14, 2013 10:59:27am |
YOU GUYS. You can now explore the inside of the TARDIS on Google Maps: http://t.co/yk90bLhlQq— thinkgeek (@thinkgeek) August 14, 2013
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Aug 14, 2013 11:00:24am |
re: #428 Vicious Babushka
I was thinking about all the apocalyptic warnings before Y2K.
My pet one for that sort of thing was the “Great Leap Downward” mentioned in _The Great Dinosaur Robbery_.
(spoiler)
This 1970 novel featured (in passing) the fiendish Communist Chinese plot to have all citizens in China climb atop 8’ step ladders and then jump down at the same moment.
(spoiler)
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Carlos Danger Wed, Aug 14, 2013 11:02:29am |
re: #454 NJDhockeyfan
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Ironically, El Baradei was pretty close to the presidency himself. What was standing in the way was a Salafist party close to the government and Mansour was the compromise candidate.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Aug 14, 2013 11:02:51am |
re: #487 Lidane
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If he doesn’t see this now, please repost this when PLL is around. He’ll love it.
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Aug 14, 2013 11:04:24am |
re: #490 Dark_Falcon
If he doesn’t see this now, please repost this when PLL is around. He’ll love it.
It’ll be gone by then, I’m afraid…
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ProTARDISLiberal Wed, Aug 14, 2013 12:03:02pm |
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Decatur Deb Wed, Aug 14, 2013 2:27:35pm |
re: #488 Feline Fearless Leader
My pet one for that sort of thing was the “Great Leap Downward” mentioned in _The Great Dinosaur Robbery_.
(spoiler)
This 1970 novel featured (in passing) the fiendish Communist Chinese plot to have all citizens in China climb atop 8’ step ladders and then jump down at the same moment.
(spoiler)
Dick Gregory did that bit at the Village Voice around 1962. Opened for Stan Getz, IIRC.
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