Republicans Bitterly Disappointed as Plot to Deprive Millions of Health Care Fails Bigly

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Amazingly, John McCain stepped up and did the right thing tonight. I didn’t think he had it in him, but I’ve never been more happy to be wrong.

Here’s malevolent turtle Mitch McConnell expressing his great disappointment that he wasn’t able to strip millions of people of their health care tonight, and give his wealthy patrons a giant tax break.

And the Orange Oligarch has already tweeted too…

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JordanRules  Jul 28, 2017 • 12:33:24am

Carrying this thread over cause it’s a good one!

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2017 • 12:36:35am

re: #1 JordanRules

Carrying this thread over cause it’s a good one!

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That was definitely a good one! Thanks!

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2017 • 12:55:18am

A timeline from the “best negotiator”

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 28, 2017 • 12:57:30am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2017 • 12:57:58am

In the end, McCain earned his Maverick label. Good going Senator; you put country over party when it counted!

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:06:33am
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Nyet  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:08:29am

McCain turned out to be good for something. Amazing.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:10:20am

Just waking up to this great news. Let’s see if Republicans have it in them to fix the ACA now that it will remain the law of the land. If they care for the American people, they will.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:13:33am
Amazingly, John McCain stepped up and did the right thing tonight. I didn’t think he had it in him, but I’ve never been more happy to be wrong.

I haven’t been this shocked since election night.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:16:32am

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

Just waking up to this great news. Let’s see if Republicans have it in them to fix the ACA now that it will remain the law of the land. If they care for the American people, they will.

They don’t, of course. They might do so out of fear for their jobs.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:19:16am

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

Just waking up to this great news. Let’s see if Republicans have it in them to fix the ACA now that it will remain the law of the land. If they care for the American people, they will.

Not a chance. They’ll sit on this for a year, wait out the mid-term elections, and then see where they sit after that. If they keep Congress, they try again with another bill. If they’re returned to the minority, they obstruct all reform efforts while asserting that they’ve the public on their side in opposition to Obamacare.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:20:58am

re: #9 Timothy Watson

I haven’t been this shocked since election night.

I think part of it was grandstanding. McCain could’ve easily shut this entire thing down days ago but wanted to build up the dramatic action. His speech was also loaded with dishonest bullshit conflating the ACA, which was actually passed via regular order, with the current travesty of a legislative process.

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:21:45am

The U.S. Senate is a stupid cruel joke right now. I’m glad none of the senators are armed. Senators cannot carry guns in the senate chambers, right?

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:25:39am

I hope everybody’s sitting down because I’ve got surprising news: The freepers are back to wishing death upon McCain. I know, it came as a shock to me too.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:26:19am

Mike is a Sad Sack…..

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:33:33am

re: #15 Dave In Austin

Mike is a Sad Sack Of Shit…..

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FTFY.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:35:00am

re: #15 Dave In Austin

Mike is a Sad Sack…..

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“WE THE PEOPLE!!11!!!!”

WAIT A SECOND, FUCK THE PEOPLE!1!!

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JordanRules  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:36:13am

Whatever Huckster.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:36:14am

re: #6 Ace-o-aces

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Stop trying to make unmasking a thing, Devin. It’s not going to happen.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:36:27am

re: #17 Timothy Watson

WAIT A SECOND, FUCK THE PEOPLE!1!!

Seemed apt:

The Kills - Fuck The People

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:38:31am

re: #20 Timothy Watson

Seemed apt:

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Also:

Dead Kennedys - Kill The Poor

The GOP theme song. It’s brilliant satire from Biafra, but the GOP probably takes it seriously.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:39:02am

The GOP just got their asses paddled, so what will they do? You guessed it: Try to put the previous administration and the entire DNC on trial to draw attention away. Just like any good banana republic would do.

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JordanRules  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:46:27am
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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:46:55am

re: #16 Dr Lizardo

Thank you….. You are correct Sir.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:56:52am

I bet that’s why McCain left to the cloakroom right before the vote started, to take a phone call from both or either Trump or Gov. Ducey

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 1:57:15am

re: #24 Dave In Austin

Thank you….. You are correct Sir.

Glad to be of assistance.

And also glad to see this get shot down. McCain did the right thing on this one, and I’ll always give credit where credit is due.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 28, 2017 • 2:16:30am

The Kool-Aide is strong with this one.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 28, 2017 • 2:18:33am
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Kragar  Jul 28, 2017 • 2:19:56am

re: #15 Dave In Austin

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Kragar  Jul 28, 2017 • 2:47:52am
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Nyet  Jul 28, 2017 • 2:53:15am
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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:03:21am

And now, On with the day!!

Mini-Trump and Trump Prime. #Winning!

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Timothy Watson  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:04:49am

re: #32 Dave In Austin

And now, On with the day!!

Mini-Trump and Trump Prime. #Winning!

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JoeScar is back on the Trump Train? What a shocker.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:07:13am

re: #32 Dave In Austin

And now, On with the day!!

Mini-Trump and Trump Prime. #Winning!

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Good lord - if Trump moves to get rid of Bannon, then the shit’s gonna hit the fan like nothing we’ve ever seen. The alt-right will be shrieking.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:08:22am

re: #32 Dave In Austin

And now, On with the day!!

Mini-Trump and Trump Prime. #Winning!

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They’re eatting their own. MORE POPCORN!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:11:16am

And now on to the next bit of (not entirely unexpected) news:

Russia has ordered America to cut the number of diplomatic staff it has in the country and has seized a dacha compound and warehouse used by US officials in retaliation for new sanctions against Moscow.

Embassy staff must leave the country by 1 September, the Foreign Ministry said in a statement, in a move triggered by the US Senate’s near unanimous vote to slap new sanctions on Russia, further hurting its fragile economy.

independent.co.uk

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:16:31am

re: #33 Timothy Watson

JoeScar is back on the Trump Train? What a shocker.

I wouldn’t go that far at this point. I think he’s just pointing out what Mini-T is up to. Today will be chocked full of “Moar Drama” for sure.

I’ve been watching Scar for years and many of us have, and he is a preppy blue blood asshole. Has been, is now, and will be forevermore. But… Regardless of what people think of relationship with Mika (which never surprised me). Trump Prime slimed Joe’s fiance in a pretty nasty manor. Joe is not Ted Cruz. Joe didn’t back down and I don’t think there is any love lost there.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:18:18am

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

I think the auto-fellatio thing is going to leave a mark…… In a manner of speaking of course.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:20:57am

re: #38 Dave In Austin

I think the auto-fellatio thing is going to leave a mark…… In a manner of speaking of course.

I have no doubt that was the intent. The question for me is does Scaramucci have the clout to get Trump to give Bannon his walking papers?

I’d actually be somewhat impressed if he could pull that off.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:28:46am

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

Sure, easy. He just needs to get Baby-Doll and Jerrod on his side.

(In Next week’s episode, Trump Prime catches Mook in the Lincoln Bedroom with Melonia and a billy goat! Stay tuned!)

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:34:19am

Heh…rejected contractor protesting. Likely winter before “prototypes” are built

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:34:35am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:39:43am

G. Gordon Liddy’s son.
Gonna be tough to claim his ‘puter got hacked. Police found thumb drive with kiddie-photos

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:41:32am

Today’s press briefing should be interesting. See how many different ways that Huckabooboo can avoid answering questions about how the GOP just got taken behind the woodshed.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:42:46am

re: #44 Targetpractice

Today’s press briefing should be interesting. See how many different ways that Huckabooboo can avoid answering questions about how the GOP just got taken behind the woodshed.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there was no press briefing; they’d just cancel it.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:47:16am

I just saw someone on twitter float the idea that Scaramucci may have thought he was talking to Chris Cillizza and not Ryan Lizza. Ha.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:50:35am

Col. Davis is on it again..

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:52:07am

re: #47 Dave In Austin

Col. Davis is on it again..

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The kinda stuff that would have shown Obama as “weak” and “not a leader” will instead be spun as the handywork of them darned Democrats.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:52:10am

re: #44 Targetpractice

Today’s press briefing should be interesting. See how many different ways that Huckabooboo can avoid answering questions about how the GOP just got taken behind the woodshed.

re: #45 Dr Lizardo

I wouldn’t be surprised if there was no press briefing; they’d just cancel it.

Ummm…she’s gonna keep saying 48 democrats & 3 republicans failed the American people by failing to free them from the shackles of Obamacare

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:54:13am

#FailureFriday is a thing…..

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2017 • 3:59:30am

re: #50 Dave In Austin

#FailureFriday is a thing…..

Some funny stuff. Friday is also usually “Jane, let me off this crazy thing” day, too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:01:21am

From the previous thread, on GOP Senators up for reëlection:

re: #385 teleskiguy

There are eight Republican senate seats up for reelection in 2018.

Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Deb Fischer (R- NE)
Dean Heller (R-NV)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
Ted Cruz (R-TX)
Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
John Barrasso (R-WY)

Deb Fischer? Oh, good, I get to vote against her, work against her reëlection, phone bank, write letters to the state’s newspapers.

The resistance in Nebraska starts in a town of 128.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:02:21am

re: #49 FormerDirtDart

Ummm…she’s gonna keep saying 48 democrats & 3 republicans failed the American people by failing to free them from the shackles of Obamacare

This is why I’d make a lousy White House reporter……..if I heard that, I’d burst into laughter and say something along the lines of “You’re so full of shit! Try harder, you fuckwad - the whole world is laughing at you. Your president is a miserable failure and so are you.”

Then, presumably, my press credentials would be instantly revoked.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:03:09am

Ear worm….. (I know you can do it)

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:07:13am

re: #54 Dave In Austin

Ear worm….. (I know you can do it)

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If Moochie could get rid of Bannon, you know…..I’d actually consider that a good thing. Bannon is a malevolent influence and the sooner he’s gone, the better.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:07:49am

re: #50 Dave In Austin

#FailureFriday is a thing…..

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:12:25am

re: #44 Targetpractice

Today’s press briefing should be interesting. See how many different ways that Huckabooboo can avoid answering questions about how the GOP just got taken behind the woodshed.

Naw. She’ll just read a series of letters from kids nicknamed “Pickles” who adore Trump for reasons (mostly because they’re written by Trump sycophants).

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Jay C  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:20:03am

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread, on GOP Senators up for reëlection:

Deb Fischer? Oh, good, I get to vote against her, work against her reëlection, phone bank, write letters to the state’s newspapers.

The resistance in Nebraska starts in a town of 128.

Well, you’ll know the situation in your own state better than I, but in terms of potential control of the Senate in the 117th, this lineup:

re: #385 teleskiguy

There are eight Republican senate seats up for reelection in 2018.

Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Deb Fischer (R- NE)
Dean Heller (R-NV)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
Ted Cruz (R-TX)
Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
John Barrasso (R-WY)

doesn’t look particularly promising: Democrats not only have to hold ALL the seats they presently have, AND flip three of these Republican seats: an uphill task, considering how ruby-red some of these states are (MS? WY?).

Also: there may be 9 GOP Senate seats on the ballot next year: if John McCain croaks or resigns before then, his replacement, by AZ law, will be on the ballot in 2018.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:23:07am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:34:43am
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Belafon  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:40:44am

re: #36 Dr Lizardo

And now on to the next bit of (not entirely unexpected) news:

independent.co.uk

why didn’t Putin do this with Obama? Because Obama wouldn’t have backed down. Trump, on the other hand, will whine about how we have to maintain ties with our allies (and his loan officers).

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:43:36am

Okeydoke. Off to do the shopping. Back later on this glorious #FailureFriday (heh).

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:49:51am

If there’s one good thing about Trump being in office, it’s that Democrats are learning to fight again.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:51:31am

Why can’t Gardner be up for re-election? That dude’s career dissipation light is flashing…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:55:05am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2017 • 4:58:14am

This shit.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:04:35am

Wow. I went to bed before the vote last night, when things were looking pretty bleak. Nice surprise to wake up to this morning.

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prairiefire  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:12:05am

Wow. Thanking all the citizens who fought this. Peace.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:23:03am

Worth watching one more time:

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:32:22am

Good Morning!

(It’s been a bit since I’ve added the good.)

So I see many are talking about Joke Scarborough saying The Mooch’s job is to drive Bannon and Priebus out.

I don’t quite get that, as it seems they are two opposites. Priebus was said to be the GOP establishment guy. Bannon the destructor that would be out to tear down government which is establishment guys like Reince.

I would think it would be one or the other, with a slight leaning to booting Priebus because he wasn’t a Trump guy from the beginning.

Oh well, it is the Trump White House, so who the hell knows. I doubt there is a real plan for anything.

But it is Friday…so someone or something will get torn up today.

Is Sessions still out of the country?

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:33:52am

re: #30 Kragar

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this……

over and over and over……

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:36:54am

re: #69 Dr. Matt

Worth watching one more time:

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Too bad Mitt tried to get a job with the Trump team and was made to look the fool by Trump. You should listen to yourself Mitt.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:38:33am

re: #67 makeitstop

Wow. I went to bed before the vote last night, when things were looking pretty bleak. Nice surprise to wake up to this morning.

I was too anxious to watch the vote and instead went to bed early, while drafting in my mind a hostile note to John McCain. Then woke up in the middle of the night to see that two friends had texted me the results. It was so unbelievable.

Now we will have to work on preventing the GOP from totally sabotaging the ACA. Time to write thank you notes to McCain, Collins, and Murkowski.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:38:52am

re: #66 Dr. Matt

This shit.

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Between this and their focus on “voter fraud,” the GOP seem to be the biggest bunch of sore winners I’ve ever seen.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:42:05am

So sad, all this work the GOP did, to not hold hearings, or present their plans out in the open for debate, all that effort to rush this through before anyone knew what the bills would do. just sad.

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jeffreyw  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:44:01am

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Good morning!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:44:41am

re: #72 ObserverArt

Too bad Mitt tried to get a job with the Trump team and was made to look the fool by Trump. You should listen to yourself Mitt.

And seeing now how Dump shafts people who he appoints if they don’t act his own personal political staff and defense team, it’s not likely Mitt would sign on now in the event that Tillerson is dumped (probably soon).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:45:34am
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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:47:00am

re: #15 Dave In Austin

Mike is a Sad Sack…..

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mike is full of crap

this always galls me

as a rep or senator, your constituents are not only the people who voted for you. Or even all the people in your district / state. Maybe there is a slight weighting toward them; maybe not. You were elected to be one of a group of 100 or 435. Those two groups then act as a unity for *all* the people in all districts and states.

you “represent” your district or state. you *work* for everyone.

and dare i say you should act in the best interest of your constituents, placing their interests ahead of yours.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:47:46am

re: #67 makeitstop

Wow. I went to bed before the vote last night, when things were looking pretty bleak. Nice surprise to wake up to this morning.

Sometimes still the good guys win and the better angels of our nature prevail.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:48:18am

re: #75 Sir John Barron

So sad, all this work the GOP did, to not hold hearings, or present their plans out in the open for debate, all that effort to rush this through before anyone knew what the bills would do. just sad.

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so much much ‘not work’ was done

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:48:56am

re: #15 Dave In Austin

Mike is a Sad Sack…..

Huckster was feeling pretty smarmy this week and now he haz the sadz. I wonder what happened?

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:49:48am

So 6 months in office and the greatest “accomplishment” of this administration is filling a SCOTUS vacancy that the majority party cheated to keep open. No major legislation, no major foreign policy developments, no major cultural shift, nothing whatsoever. At the same time he’s been mired in a scandal since before taking office, his approval ratings have hit historical lows, several major members of his staff have either quit or been fired, and there’s various lawsuits that are promising to make things even worse.

If he truly were CEO of a major corp with this track record, the board would be looking into ways to fire his ass.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:49:49am

re: #80 Sir John Barron

Sometimes still the good guys win and the better angels of our nature prevail.

it is a never ending war, and sometimes battles are lost. But today is a good day.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:49:55am
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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:51:48am

re: #80 Sir John Barron

Sometimes still the good guys win and the better angels of our nature prevail.

or they couldnt pervert the process, bend the rules enough, twist enough arms, bribe enough people, to ram through a blank piece of paper

thats what scared some of them - losing control and having their name attached to carte blanche

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:52:47am
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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:53:03am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

Ahem.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Sen McCain, is that you?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:53:30am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

Ahem.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Sometimes dreams can come true.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:55:51am

re: #82 Sir John Barron

Huckster was feeling pretty smarmy this week and now he haz the sadz. I wonder what happened?

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with their razor thin margins and odious parliamentary hacking/any means necessary, they got so close to passing something, anything and being able to smugly say “we finally did what the american people wanted…”

win for us
see we’re the good guys

this is a reality that cant be spun
they couldnt pass anything
weak sad

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freetoken  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:59:03am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

It was all a work.

A way for McCain to play the role of the hero one more time.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 5:59:27am

re: #83 Targetpractice

So 6 months in office and the greatest “accomplishment” of this administration is filling a SCOTUS vacancy that the majority party cheated to keep open. No major legislation, no major foreign policy developments, no major cultural shift, nothing whatsoever. At the same time he’s been mired in a scandal since before taking office, his approval ratings have hit historical lows, several major members of his staff have either quit or been fired, and there’s various lawsuits that are promising to make things even worse.

If he truly were CEO of a major corp with this track record, the board would be looking into ways to fire his ass.

1. “Gorsuch’s name will always be a reminder of the degree to which Republicans debased themselves and their country to maintain control of the Supreme Court.”

2. “every Trump voter made the same Faustian bargain. Wealthy, ‘fiscally conservative moderates’ traded social justice, the planet, their daughter’s rights, international relations, safe gun policy, the health care of millions and much more for their own (now unlikely) tax cut. The struggling, white middle class traded it all for a fictional job promise.”

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:00:59am
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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:02:34am

re: #93 Dr. Matt

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weak is the new sad

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:02:45am

re: #91 freetoken

It was all a work.

A way for McCain to play the role of the hero one more time.

Give it to him. For one day only, he can be called “Maverick”.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:04:26am

re: #93 Dr. Matt

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He’s Stephen Hawking without the math.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:05:26am
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Belafon  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:07:02am

re: #86 dangerman

or they couldnt pervert the process, bend the rules enough, twist enough arms, bribe enough people, to ram through a blank piece of paper

thats what scared some of them - losing control and having their name attached to carte blanche

in pther words, they were acting like representatives.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:08:22am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

Ahem.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Could McCain be so cunning that he voted yes to proceed to eventually give Trump three defeats? These three defeats are far more damaging than if the vote to proceed failed.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:10:04am

re: #93 Dr. Matt

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They smell blood in the water. Trump was supposed to be their tool to undo the Obama years and return to the trajectory of the Bush years. But he can’t deliver that, is actually turning out to be detrimental to that agenda. So now they’re going to start turning on him.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:10:44am

Oh, what a beautiful morning.

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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:12:04am

re: #99 Dr. Matt

Could McCain be so cunning that he voted yes to proceed to eventually give Trump three defeats? These three defeats are far more damaging than if the vote to proceed failed.

True enough. If the vote had failed, then it would have been setback, but one that could have been addressed next year when McCain’s replacement is likely to be in office. With the votes last night, the heart has been pretty much ripped out of the repeal effort. The Senate GOP are on record voting against the only available options, which means anybody who suggests they take it up next year will face a pretty steep hill.

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:15:04am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:16:02am

re: #102 Targetpractice

With the votes last night, the heart has been pretty much ripped out of the repeal effort.

Always remember:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:17:49am

re: #93 Dr. Matt

Yeah, although I’m not sure how to read this. I mean, is Peggy really OK with the crudeness and impetuousness and all the other awfulness of this dumpster fire?

Of course it’s Peggy Noonan so one can never be too sure.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:17:54am

I enjoy pointing out that the failure to repeal throws off their entire agenda for the rest of the year. Those big tax cuts ain’t getting done, since they were depending upon the ‘savings’ from gutting health care to finance the giveaway.

So they’ll head into a mid-term year with no major legislative victories to speak of. Ya think their rich donors are gonna be happy about that?

And that is why Yertle is so bitter right now. They promised their puppet-masters a big payday, and could not deliver. And there will be consequences.

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freetoken  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:18:42am

No morning rage tweets … I wonder if someone took the phone from him again?

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Myron Falwell  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:18:49am

re: #15 Dave In Austin

Mike is a Sad Sack…..

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Hahahaha if this is what Fuckabee and the rest of the GOP brain trust is centering on…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:20:30am

re: #107 freetoken

No morning rage tweets … I wonder if someone took the phone from him again?

Wondering if it’s bits and broken pieces, and a new on the way.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:20:50am

#FailedFriday is the top trender in the verse. Brutal over there.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:21:28am

These fuckers don’t know when to quit.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:22:09am

re: #107 freetoken

No morning rage tweets … I wonder if someone took the phone from him again?

Shitler is on a KFC bender right now.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:22:51am

re: #109 Unshaken Defiance

Wondering if it’s bits and broken pieces, and a new on the way.

Just as long as he doesn’t break anything else. It is the White House after all.

Fuck… To even think about it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:22:52am

re: #102 Targetpractice

True enough. If the vote had failed, then it would have been setback, but one that could have been addressed next year when McCain’s replacement is likely to be in office. With the votes last night, the heart has been pretty much ripped out of the repeal effort. The Senate GOP are on record voting against the only available options, which means anybody who suggests they take it up next year will face a pretty steep hill.

As has been said, revenge is a dish best served cold. McCain may now feel a freedom to oppose Trump at every point. I hope that Schumer takes advantage of that.

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:23:10am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:24:42am

re: #111 A wild WITHAK appeared!

These fuckers don’t know when to quit.

I don’t doubt it. As long as there is a Dump in the WH and the teabag party in control of congress (and state governments, too), we’re never truly safe.

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:25:23am
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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:25:24am

re: #106 makeitstop

I enjoy pointing out that the failure to repeal throws off their entire agenda for the rest of the year. Those big tax cuts ain’t getting done, since they were depending upon the ‘savings’ from gutting health care to finance the giveaway.

So they’ll head into a mid-term year with no major legislative victories to speak of. Ya think their rich donors are gonna be happy about that?

And that is why Yertle is so bitter right now. They promised their puppet-masters a big payday, and could not deliver. And there will be consequences.

this was going to be THE signature accomplishment

using parlimentarian hackery, political thuggery, and even accepting a one vote razor thin margin, the would use it as a *mandate* victory and *proof positive* of their righteous cause and the country was behind them in ALL THINGS republican

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:25:49am

re: #115 darthstar

Yeah… Thanks for nothin’ Bernie….

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:26:21am

re: #111 A wild WITHAK appeared!

These fuckers don’t know when to quit.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:28:00am

Frum seems to be enjoying this…

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:28:28am
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darthstar  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:29:30am
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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:30:12am
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Targetpractice  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:30:41am

re: #111 A wild WITHAK appeared!

These fuckers don’t know when to quit.

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I must have missed where Mark replaced Ryan. The party leadership wants to move on, they’re not going to wait two weeks and then try to tilt at this windmill again.

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:30:56am

re: #119 Dave In Austin

Yeah… Thanks for nothin’ Bernie….

He was thanking the people, not the other way around.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:31:05am

re: #27 Ace-o-aces

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The Kool-Aide is strong with this one.

Trump is playing Chutes and Ladders. All the ladders are disappearing and the chutes are multiplying.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:32:14am

re: #126 darthstar

He was thanking the people, not the other way around.

Yeah I know…. I’m an ass. But to me his face is like Shitlers voice…..

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:33:55am

and lets be sober

this was not some great repudiation and win for “democracy” and the republic

this was the republicans failing to plan and predict (let alone write an actual bill)

mostly though it was because while there were “enough” republicans there werent MORE total republicans to ram it through

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:34:16am

re: #128 Dave In Austin

Yeah I know…. I’m an ass. But to me his face is like Shitlers voice…..

Well, we all gotta hate somebody.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:34:16am

Trump is running the government exactly the way he would run a reality TV show. That’s all this is to him. RATINGS & STAY TUNED!!! Who will be the next to YOU’RE FIRED!!!! out of the boardroom.

This is THE CELEBRITY APPRENTICE: U.S. GOVERNMENT

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Myron Falwell  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:35:44am

re: #111 A wild WITHAK appeared!

These fuckers don’t know when to quit.

And how is this bill magically going to show up, Mark Meadows? Oh wait, you’re on a show hosted by three dumbfucks who make Rush look like a MENSA member. NVM

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:36:15am

re: #129 dangerman

and lets be sober

this was not some great repudiation and win for “democracy” and the republic

this was the republicans failing to plan and predict (let alone write an actual bill)

mostly though it was because while there were “enough” republicans there werent MORE total republicans to ram it through

Yes. We barely dodged a bullet, but perhaps gained enough time to improve the odds in the 2018 election. Sooner or later they’ll get it done if they keep the majorities.

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:37:11am
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Jay C  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:37:40am

re: #131 The Vicious Babushka

This is THE CELEBRITY APPRENTICE: U.S. GOVERNMENT

A show which, unfortunately, has been contracted for four seasons: and is unlikely to get cancelled, however bad its ratings…..

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:37:47am

re: #124 makeitstop

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Damnit. I’m working in a library and just cackled.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:38:44am

re: #136 Barefoot Grin

Damnit. I’m working in a library and just cackled.

Glad to help! :)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:39:30am

re: #136 Barefoot Grin

Sssshhhh.

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freetoken  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:43:10am

Looking at my Facebook wall, it seems that McCain’s bid to make himself the center of attention worked.

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:43:19am
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darthstar  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:44:34am
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austin_blue  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:47:06am

Let’s All Welcome Faaaaaiiiiiluuuuurrrrre Frrrrriiiiidaaaaayyyyy!!!!!

(brought to you by three Republicans and 48 Democrats)

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:48:24am

re: #142 austin_blue

Let’s All Welcome Faaaaaiiiiiluuuuurrrrre Frrrrriiiiidaaaaayyyyy!!!!!

(brought to you by three Republicans and 48 Democrats)

I’d call that a win.

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darthstar  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:49:56am

re: #142 austin_blue

Let’s All Welcome Faaaaaiiiiiluuuuurrrrre Frrrrriiiiidaaaaayyyyy!!!!!

(brought to you by three Republicans and 48 Democrats)

Okay…maybe for some people…

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:50:15am

And…how sweet would this be?

After Republican senators failed to pass a skinny Obamacare repeal bill early Friday morning, one GOP congressman is calling on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) to step down.

During an interview with CNN on Friday, Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) said the news that three Republicans — Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Lisa Murkowski (R- AK) and Susan Collins (R-ME) — tanked a bill that only needed a simple majority to pass was an “abject failure of the United States Senate” and questioned whether top leadership needed a shakeup.

“It was a failure from the newest member Luther Strange (R-AL) at the bottom to the very top with Mitch McConnell as majority leader,” he said, urging senators to stay in D.C. until “the job gets done.”

“Now is not the time to leave the American people in a lurch. Now is not the time to leave American health care at risk,” he said. “I hope they won’t quit. If they’re going to quit, by golly, maybe they ought to start at the top with Mitch McConnell leaving his position and letting somebody new, somebody bold, somebody conservative take the reins so they can come up with a plan that can get through the United States Senate.”

Knives are out, Mitchy. Watch your back…

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austin_blue  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:51:10am

re: #143 darthstar

I’d call that a win.

It may have taken a glioblastoma, but McCain is finally Woke.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:54:59am

re: #129 dangerman

and lets be sober

this was not some great repudiation and win for “democracy” and the republic

this was the republicans failing to plan and predict (let alone write an actual bill)

mostly though it was because while there were “enough” republicans there werent MORE total republicans to ram it through

Because of this Quixote-like dream, though, the GOP totally farked up the chances of passing their tax reform billion dollar giveaway for the top 1%… and funding for Trump’s scam disguised as a border wall.

The only legislative accomplishment thus far has been… uhh… well…

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lawhawk  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:56:10am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. A significant win last night from Democrats and a handful of GOPers, including Collins, Murkowski and McCain who voted to preserve health coverage for tens of millions of Americans.

This should have been a no-brainer that never left committee, but the GOP leadership is absolutely committed to destroying the safety net and gutting health coverage for Americans. None of the GOP seem to understand how insurance, let alone health insurance works (where people who are in good health help subsidize those who are ill - and actuaries are able to help identify how much money is needed to keep the insurance plan solvent). It’s math - and the GOP doesn’t do math, except when it involves tax cuts for the rich, in which case they’re always for it.

Health care is tough, and Trumpcare shows that the GOP never cared about an actual replacement for Obamacare. It was always vaporware/malware.

But let’s not cheer and move on just yet. The GOP and this administration are so craven and intent on destroying the signature achievement of Obama, that they’ll be back at this yet again before we know it.

The only way to stop this madness?

VOTE THE GOP OUT OF OFFICE.

That means voting in the midterms and every fucking election at every fucking level every time. Every election matters, and there’s no delicate way of putting it. Every fucking vote matters because the GOP will use voter apathy, voter suppression, and every trick in the book to destroy functioning government at every level.

We’ve seen it on a daily basis with Trump and the GOP at the federal level, but it’s also insidiously apparent at the state and local level too - see Kansas.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:56:43am

re: #99 Dr. Matt

Could McCain be so cunning that he voted yes to proceed to eventually give Trump three defeats? These three defeats are far more damaging than if the vote to proceed failed.

I’m going to give McCain the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant what he said in his speech Thursday. Even his vote to proceed was a return to regular order, since that use to be a routine procedural vote rather than a tool of obstruction.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:56:45am

re: #122 Dave In Austin

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Turtle all the way down

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:57:35am

re: #144 darthstar

Okay…maybe for some people…

What’s the matter, Mike, you made bro?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 6:58:40am

re: #148 lawhawk

Ryan: “We’re going to stick the landing on tax reform”
— The Hill

“stick the landing”?

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:00:02am

re: #131 The Vicious Babushka

Trump is running the government exactly the way he would run a reality TV show. That’s all this is to him. RATINGS & STAY TUNED!!! Who will be the next to YOU’RE FIRED!!!! out of the boardroom.

This is THE CELEBRITY APPRENTICE: U.S. GOVERNMENT

Yes with ratings and not the functioning of government as measure of success

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:02:15am

re: #152 Sir John Barron

“stick the landing”?

Upside Down Part 1

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Myron Falwell  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:03:41am

re: #152 Sir John Barron

“stick the landing”?

“Describe the plane for us, Mr. Ryan!”

“Big Pretty White Plane” - Johnny - Stephen Stucker - Airplane! (1980) in HD

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:03:52am

re: #152 Sir John Barron

“stick the landing”?

He’s dreaming.

To pass the tax cut without the health care repeal, they’ll blow a whole in the budget so big that you’ll be able to drive Trump’s ego through it.

Not happening, at least not this year. Next question: are they stupid enough to try gutting the government to give billionaires a tax break in an election year? They just might be dumb enough to try it, at which point the negative ads will write themselves.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:05:49am
Republicans Bitterly Disappointed as Plot to Deprive Millions of Health Care Fails Bigly

And does anyone believe they will quit trying?

All of this is over sex and repro rights.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:06:23am

re: #145 makeitstop

And…how sweet would this be?

Knives are out, Mitchy. Watch your back…

The “Senate” didn’t fail

And where’s that new leaders plan right now? Why didn’t he bring it up and they just use it instead of all this #fail?

There ain’t no leader. There ain’t no plan

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:07:28am

re: #131 The Vicious Babushka

THE CELEBRITY APPRENTICE: U.S. GOVERNMENT

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:07:47am

Must leave for the airport, but before I go:

To all the pessimists, gloom-mongers and despairing people who regaled us over and over and over and over and over… (but i grow redundant) with their predictions that ACA is dead, that Republicans will never lose an elections again, that those who voted for Trump will ever change their minds, that Trumpists are, to the last person, brainwashed forever — in short, that we are hopelessly doomed…

REMEMBER LAST NIGHT.

The future is not fixed, we are not helpless, and the Resistance is not dead.

That is all.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:09:09am

re: #141 darthstar

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excellent!

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:10:10am

re: #148 lawhawk

Somebody’s been paying attention. ;-)

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:10:11am

re: #158 dangerman

The “Senate” didn’t fail

And where’s that new leaders plan right now? Why didn’t he bring it up and they just use it instead of all this #fail?

There ain’t no leader. There ain’t no plan

Understood.

But how sweet would it be to see these dopes overthrow their ‘legislative genius’ and replace him with someone with half the IQ and twice the nihilism?

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:10:32am

re: #129 dangerman

and lets be sober

I’m beginning to wonder if that is a viable option.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:11:08am

re: #124 makeitstop

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she is so NOT camera ready.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:12:08am

HAHAHAHAHA…

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:12:46am

re: #122 Dave In Austin

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You know, I really have to wonder who is pulling the strings here. McConnell and the whole GOP are behaving as if someone/thing very powerful has the goods on them. It’s beyond politics, even beyond obsession.

It’s as if someone has a metaphorical gun to their heads.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:15:15am

I’d post it, but it’s in danger of being overplayed.

The scene with Brad Pitt: “America is a Business.”

It keeps replaying in my head along with “chaos is a ladder.”

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:15:18am

re: #163 makeitstop

Understood.

But how sweet would it be to see these dopes overthrow their ‘legislative genius’ and replace him with someone with half the IQ and twice the nihilism?

Completely.

I was really yelling at brooks

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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:15:48am

re: #167 Birth Control Works

You know, I really have to wonder who is pulling the strings here. McConnell and the whole GOP are behaving as if someone/thing very powerful has the goods on them. It’s beyond politics, even beyond obsession.

It’s as if someone has a metaphorical gun to their heads.

The Koch brothers? The Spencers? The Russians? Wikileaks?

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:15:59am

re: #167 Birth Control Works

You know, I really have to wonder who is pulling the strings here. McConnell and the whole GOP are behaving as if someone/thing very powerful has the goods on them. It’s beyond politics, even beyond obsession.

It’s as if someone has a metaphorical gun to their heads.

Kompromat…

Uncle Vlad’s got dossiers, a pretty cabinet full of dossiers.

I’m reminded of C_L’s saying about dogs and caravans.

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austin_blue  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:16:29am

re: #163 makeitstop

Understood.

But how sweet would it be to see these dopes overthrow their ‘legislative genius’ and replace him with someone with half the IQ and twice the nihilism?

Rand Paul!

Laup Dnar!

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:18:16am

re: #79 dangerman

you “represent” your district or state. you *work* for everyone.

and dare i say you should act in the best interest of your constituents, placing their interests ahead of yours.

As that famed conservative icon Edmund Burke noted centuries ago.

Certainly, gentlemen, it ought to be the happiness and glory of a representative to live in the strictest union, the closest correspondence, and the most unreserved communication with his constituents. Their wishes ought to have great weight with him; their opinion, high respect; their business, unremitted attention. It is his duty to sacrifice his repose, his pleasures, his satisfactions, to theirs; and above all, ever, and in all cases, to prefer their interest to his own. But his unbiassed opinion, his mature judgment, his enlightened conscience, he ought not to sacrifice to you, to any man, or to any set of men living. These he does not derive from your pleasure; no, nor from the law and the constitution. They are a trust from Providence, for the abuse of which he is deeply answerable. Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays, instead of serving you, if he sacrifices it to your opinion.

Although I don’t know why he is considered ‘conservative’. His whole career in office was progressive from his opposition to slavery to support for the American Colonies.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:18:31am

re: #167 Birth Control Works

You know, I really have to wonder who is pulling the strings here. McConnell and the whole GOP are behaving as if someone/thing very powerful has the goods on them. It’s beyond politics, even beyond obsession.

It’s as if someone has a metaphorical gun to their heads.

Or they’re just not very good at this
/Occam

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austin_blue  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:19:13am

re: #167 Birth Control Works

You know, I really have to wonder who is pulling the strings here. McConnell and the whole GOP are behaving as if someone/thing very powerful has the goods on them. It’s beyond politics, even beyond obsession.

It’s as if someone has a metaphorical gun to their heads.

Or maybe they just couldn’t pass a piece of shit vapor bill that would have given healthcare back to Ryan’s basket of cretins in the House.

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I cannot.  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:20:39am

re: #167 Birth Control Works

You know, I really have to wonder who is pulling the strings here. McConnell and the whole GOP are behaving as if someone/thing very powerful has the goods on them. It’s beyond politics, even beyond obsession.

It’s as if someone has a metaphorical gun to their heads.

I’ve got to agree, it makes no sense. Putin isn’t in the picture here, because he’d be OK with just plain disarray, he’d have no desire for a specific legislative outcome on a domestic matter, especially not this desperation for speed. Kochs, Mercers etc aren’t really good suspects because they CAN play the long game and again, the desperation for speed keeps backfiring.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:20:46am

re: #163 makeitstop

Understood.

But how sweet would it be to see these dopes overthrow their ‘legislative genius’ and replace him with someone with half the IQ and twice the nihilism?

It sure worked with Paul Ryan ousting Boehnor, didn’t it? ////

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:21:36am
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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:23:06am

re: #171 makeitstop

Kompromat…

Uncle Vlad’s got dossiers, a pretty cabinet full of dossiers.

I’m reminded of C_L’s saying about dogs and caravans.

Yeah, something along those lines.

I don’t think I know CL’s saying about dogs and caravans …

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:24:27am

re: #174 dangerman

Or they’re just not very good at this
/Occam

that too!

Perhaps you are the winner!

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:24:53am

re: #179 Birth Control Works

Yeah, something along those lines.

I don’t think I know CL’s saying about dogs and caravans …

‘The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.’

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:25:47am

Charles Johnson,

Oh yes, this makes me so happy! The “Grand Old Party” fails again!

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Jay C  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:26:09am

re: #167 Birth Control Works

You know, I really have to wonder who is pulling the strings here. McConnell and the whole GOP are behaving as if someone/thing very powerful has the goods on them. It’s beyond politics, even beyond obsession.

It’s as if someone has a metaphorical gun to their heads.

Normally, I’d believe that this was just CT-think, but when it comes to “healthcare reform” (i.e. the TrumpCare/Republican “just-go-off-and-die-in-the-street” model), I’m starting to think there may be something to it. I can think of very few legislative initiatives - ever - which have been pushed so hard by a national Party with so little public and/or institutional support. And pushed repeatedly, in the face of genuine popular backlash, with so little (usually zero) regard/respect for contrary opinions: all those GOP Reps who refused to do town halls, or even listen to their constituents? McConnell’s carpet-bombing of Senate procedures to try to push “repeal”?

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:27:52am

Yes because “Obviously” checks and balances are bad thing, which explains why they were never included in our constitution. Oh wait, they were.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:29:05am

re: #173 Romantic Heretic

As that famed conservative icon Edmund Burke noted centuries ago.

Although I don’t know why he is considered ‘conservative’. His whole career in office was progressive from his opposition to slavery to support for the American Colonies.

Classical conservatism; bear in mind that the people who pass themselves off as “conservatives” these days are in fact outright radical reactionaries.

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:29:10am

re: #141 darthstar

That’s borderline obscene!

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:34:07am

Indeed.

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Jay C  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:35:23am

re: #184 CriticalDragon1177

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Yes because “Obviously” checks and balances are bad thing, which explains why they were never included in our constitution. Oh wait, they were.

Right, Donald.. Sure.
And if the Senate had a 51- 49 Democratic Majority, I’m sure he’d be tweeting his heartfelt support for the age-old Senate traditions of “unfettered debate” and “necessary supermajorities” to avoid partisan obstructionism…..

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:37:42am

re: #184 CriticalDragon1177

If Republicans are going to pass great future legislation in the Senate, they must immediately go to a 51 vote majority, not senseless 60…

— Donald J. Trump

The “winning” is just overwhelming. So much winning.

/////

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Myron Falwell  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:39:25am

re: #160 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I can’t tell you how happy I am to have been so completely and utterly wrong in assuming a passage of this monstrosity.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:45:33am

re: #166 makeitstop

HAHAHAHAHA…

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Cheeto Pendejo wants to be a dictator and rule by fiat, that way he wouldn’t even need stupid Senate majorities.

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No Depression  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:49:25am

re: #167 Birth Control Works

You know, I really have to wonder who is pulling the strings here. McConnell and the whole GOP are behaving as if someone/thing very powerful has the goods on them. It’s beyond politics, even beyond obsession.

It’s as if someone has a metaphorical gun to their heads.

I don’t think there’s any grand conspiracy here. They’re just afraid of being primaried by their unhinged, nihilistic base.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:49:25am
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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:54:17am

re: #130 darthstar

Well, we all gotta hate somebody.

Why do you have to see some of our displeasure with Bernard as hate?

Are we supposed to see your support of him as being blinded by love?

You are going to have to give up being protective of him some time and realize the way his whole run was handled after he had no chance to win the nomination, his less than robust support for the winning candidate and the way his supporters acted come election time helped give us Trump.

It is not a black and white world. It is not about love and hate.

And I used the word helped. I don’t blame it all on Bernie. And I also know Clinton wasn’t perfect. But damn, we ALL sure screwed that one up.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:54:51am

re: #192 No Depression

I don’t think there’s any grand conspiracy here. They’re just afraid of being primaried by their unhinged, nihilistic base.

….while (whilst?) at the same time not being very good at governing or legislating

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Myron Falwell  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:55:56am

re: #192 No Depression

I don’t think there’s any grand conspiracy here. They’re just afraid of being primaried by their unhinged, nihilistic base.

And in some cases, they’ve embraced the unhinged nihilism of their own base.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:57:27am

This fight has been won, temporarily. We must keep going. Making this a 24/7 occurrence whenever they are seen in public is the best way for us to do so.

cnn.com

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 7:59:11am

Report from the ground at the site of Trump’s Big Speech today - Telemundo was thrown out even before Mousse-olini even got there.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:00:16am

re: #198 makeitstop

Report from the ground at the site of Trump’s Big Speech today - Telemundo was thrown out even before Mousse-olini even got there.

Oh? Which bigly speech is this?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:02:11am

re: #199 Sir John Barron

East coast MS-13-all-immmigrants-are-criminals speech.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:02:30am

This is just horrific.

Manhattan parents struggling to pay their doctors’ bills jumped to their deaths early Friday — leaving double suicide notes pleading that their two kids be cared for, a law enforcement source told The Post.

The bodies of the 53-year-old man and 50-year-old woman — who claimed they had had a “wonderful life” — were found in the middle of the street on 33rd Street between Park and Madison avenues in Murray Hill after the pair jumped from the 9th-floor window of a 17-story corner office building on Madison Avenue at about 5:45 a.m., police said.

The woman had a suicide note in her pocket that read, “in sum and substance, ‘Our kids are upstairs, please take care of them,’” the source said.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:03:09am

re: #145 makeitstop

And…how sweet would this be?

Knives are out, Mitchy. Watch your back…

It would be sweet. But Mo Brooks is a complete asshole. Getting real sick of his game.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:04:46am

re: #183 Jay C

Normally, I’d believe that this was just CT-think, but when it comes to “healthcare reform” (i.e. the TrumpCare/Republican “just-go-off-and-die-in-the-street” model), I’m starting to think there may be something to it. I can think of very few legislative initiatives - ever - which have been pushed so hard by a national Party with so little public and/or institutional support. And pushed repeatedly, in the face of genuine popular backlash, with so little (usually zero) regard/respect for contrary opinions: all those GOP Reps who refused to do town halls, or even listen to their constituents? McConnell’s carpet-bombing of Senate procedures to try to push “repeal”?

I believe the problem goes back to McConnell’s decision after the 2008 election to push a strategy of simple negation. It divorced the GOP from both ideology and actual governance, and made the whole party effort about nothing beyond ‘winning’ and stopping/undoing whatever Obama did. They increasingly left behind any regard for truth, reason, compromise, or principle, and their base rewarded them, which fanned the flames, leading to the election of the epitome of ideology-free, unprincipled, anything-to-win, Donald Trump.

They have really become the dog that caught the car. They sacrificed every principle to win, and now having won, they have no unifying principles on which to build. The one thing that unified them was the promise to undo Obamacare, to such a degree that they were willing to pass bills that not even their base liked. They stopped caring about legislating, about governing, about the American people, and cared ONLY about being able to say they’d undone Obama’s legacy. This is how they ended up last night with a bill that they hated, that many only voted for, hoping against hope that it would NOT become law.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:05:36am

re: #152 Sir John Barron

“stick the landing”?

Imma kinda hoping for a full face plant myself.

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:07:06am

Good morning. Just kind of a drive-by since we’re hitting the road for home shortly.
It occurred to me (as an atheist, so I could be way off here) that the McCain healthcare vote ought to make some of the allegedly religious people sit up and take notice.

Senator votes party line against the welfare of poor people.
Senator has surgery that delays critical vote.
During surgery an aggressive brain cancer is discovered.
Senator returns to cast deciding vote against the healthcare repeal.

At the least it’s a made for TV movie. Or it’s the divine intervening in the situation.
But I guess if your preferred deity doesn’t much care for the poor, you won’t pay attention.

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:08:09am

re: #188 Jay C

Right, Donald.. Sure.
And if the Senate had a 51- 49 Democratic Majority, I’m sure he’d be tweeting his heartfelt support for the age-old Senate traditions of “unfettered debate” and “necessary supermajorities” to avoid partisan obstructionism…..

Wouldn’t be surprised, actually.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:08:37am

re: #202 ObserverArt

It would be sweet. But Mo Brooks is a complete asshole. Getting real sick of his game.

Hey, even if Mitch ends up hanging on by the skin of his teeth, it’ll be worth it to watch these dopes climbing over one another.

I’ll watch.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:08:53am

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

Yup

They coulda just passed “obamacare will now be called Trump care”.
It woulda been a big win and the rubes would not have even the wiser

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:10:08am

re: #205 calochortus

Good morning. Just kind of a drive-by since we’re hitting the road for home shortly.
It occurred to me (as an atheist, so I could be way off here) that the McCain healthcare vote ought to make some of the allegedly religious people sit up and take notice.

Senator votes party line against the welfare of poor people.
Senator has surgery that delays critical vote.
During surgery an aggressive brain cancer is discovered.
Senator returns to cast deciding vote against the healthcare repeal.

At the least it’s a made for TV movie. Or it’s the divine intervening in the situation.
But I guess if your preferred deity doesn’t much care for the poor, you won’t pay attention.

That there nondenominational karma’s a bitch

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:11:08am

re: #201 makeitstop

This is just horrific.

That is a rather affluent address —no?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:11:14am

re: #201 makeitstop

This is just horrific.

And if Trumpcare passes imagine this 100 fold.

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austin_blue  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:11:25am

re: #207 makeitstop

Hey, even if Mitch ends up hanging on by the skin of his teeth, it’ll be worth it to watch these dopes climbing over one another.

I’ll watch.

It’s gonna be a fun week!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:11:58am

So, should I be happy or terrified that Trump hasn’t tweeted yet this morning?

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calochortus  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:12:30am

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

So, should I be happy or terrified that Trump hasn’t tweeted yet this morning?

With things as they are, terrified is the default setting.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:13:02am

re: #210 Birth Control Works

That is a rather affluent address —no?

It is - although just about any address within the confines of Manhattan could be described that way.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:13:54am

re: #209 dangerman

That there nondenominational karma’s a bitch

Karmatic retribution at McConnell for his abominable fucking of Merrick Garland.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:13:55am

re: #176 I cannot.

I’ve got to agree, it makes no sense. Putin isn’t in the picture here, because he’d be OK with just plain disarray, he’d have no desire for a specific legislative outcome on a domestic matter, especially not this desperation for speed. Kochs, Mercers etc aren’t really good suspects because they CAN play the long game and again, the desperation for speed keeps backfiring.

I think it is the realization that they allowed in the extreme right with the Tea Party people which over the Obama years may have begun to chase off the moderates.

They made the crazies their base and now they have to please them or they are gone. Mitch knows he put that base on fire last night and he and they are gonna get burned.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:15:06am

re: #215 makeitstop

It is - although just about any address within the confines of Manhattan could be described that way.

The regular Joe just sighs and realizes he can’t even afford to file BK-starts a crowdfunding page, asks for help. The proud affluent commit suicide.

Sorry if this sounds insensitive, but the strict Ayn Rand types do not do well with perceived failure.

Poor kids.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:15:25am

re: #210 Birth Control Works

That is a rather affluent address —no?

Plenty of people in affluent areas are living above their means and are just one lost job or medical condition away from disaster.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:16:16am

re: #190 Myron Falwell

I can’t tell you how happy I am to have been so completely and utterly wrong in assuming a passage of this monstrosity.

Ha. You’ve told us a few times now Myron. You can stop flogging yourself now. : )

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:16:42am
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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:16:45am

re: #192 No Depression

I don’t think there’s any grand conspiracy here. They’re just afraid of being primaried by their unhinged, nihilistic base.

Exactly! We are on the same page.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:17:22am

re: #219 Eclectic Cyborg

Plenty of people in affluent areas are living above their means and are just one lost job or medical condition away from disaster.

yup

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:18:23am

re: #198 makeitstop

Report from the ground at the site of Trump’s Big Speech today - Telemundo was thrown out even before Mousse-olini even got there.

Is today the day he is out on your longish island talking about gangs or something?

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:18:57am

Affluent doesn’t mean rich anymore —It means you can pay your bills (mostly); go on vacation, buy a new pair of boots when the old ones wear out.

We really don’t have rich people in this country. We have the wealth to the point of amorality and everyone else.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:19:29am

re: #220 ObserverArt

Ha. You’ve told us a few times now Myron. You can stop flogging yourself now. : )

In fairness, I don’t think anyone actually expected this outcome, no matter how hopeful.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:20:18am

re: #189 Sir John Barron

The “winning” is just overwhelming. So much winning.

/////

It’s spelt ‘whining’.

[Spellcheck hates that archaic word spelt]

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:20:59am

re: #192 No Depression

I don’t think there’s any grand conspiracy here. They’re just afraid of being primaried by their unhinged, nihilistic base.

Not a conspiracy, per se. A pressure of some sort. Personal pride, I don’t know. It’s just unusual.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:21:16am

re: #207 makeitstop

Hey, even if Mitch ends up hanging on by the skin of his teeth, it’ll be worth it to watch these dopes climbing over one another.

I’ll watch.

Oh…I am watching. I like a good two trains on the same track and heading at each other scenario.

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No Depression  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:21:34am

I can’t stop watching this clip of John McCain’s vote set to Jim Ross wrestling commentary:

deadspin.com

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:22:02am

re: #181 makeitstop

‘The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.’

ah!

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:23:08am

re: #227 Eventual Carrion

It’s spelt ‘whining’.

[Spellcheck hates that archaic word spelt]

Reminds me of pasta

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freetoken  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:24:12am

re: #230 No Depression

It’s available in a tweet:

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:24:52am

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

So, should I be happy or terrified that Trump hasn’t tweeted yet this morning?

I think happy.

If there is anything to fear it would be for any of his administration members. There is going to be one pissed off big Orange Glob storming around today and I bet everyone is running and hiding from The Don.

His speech this afternoon is going to be full of hatred for everybody and everything.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:26:18am

re: #207 makeitstop

Hey, even if Mitch ends up hanging on by the skin of his teeth, it’ll be worth it to watch these dopes climbing over one another.

I’ll watch.

Brooks is an idiot by Alabama standards. He’s also running (badly) to be Beauregard’s permanent Senate replacement.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:26:51am

Personally, I don’t know why this isn’t front page news.

CDC: Half of All Female Homicide Victims Are Killed by Intimate Partners : The Two-Way : NPR

from the CDC report:

From 2003 through 2014, a total of 10,018 female homicides were captured by NVDRS; among these, 1,835 (18.3%) were part of a homicide-suicide incident (i.e., suspect died by suicide after perpetrating homicide). Homicide victims ranged in age from 18 to 100 years. The overall age-adjusted homicide rate was 2.0 per 100,000 women. By race/ethnicity, non-Hispanic black women had the highest rate of dying by homicide (4.4 per 100,000), followed by AI/AN (4.3), Hispanic (1.8), non-Hispanic white (1.5), and A/PI women (1.2).

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freetoken  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:26:51am

It is kind of amazing to watch Mitch just stand there and have to take it.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:27:41am

re: #210 Birth Control Works

That is a rather affluent address —no?

Literal shadow of the Empire State Building, though that side of Park is a bit commercial/administrative.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:28:45am
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No Depression  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:28:52am

re: #237 freetoken

It is kind of amazing to watch Mitch just stand there and have to take it.

It keeps getting better every time I watch it.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:29:58am

Sounds like he is the only one with nothing to lose.

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fern01  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:30:27am

re: #166 makeitstop

Is he really THIS stupid? Says more about those who voted for him than anyone else

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Archangelus  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:30:45am
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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:30:53am

re: #219 Eclectic Cyborg

Plenty of people in affluent areas are living above their means and are just one lost job or medical condition away from disaster.

yup - the “trick” to becoming richer than you are is to grow net assets / net worth - not gross assets and debt

if you dont maintain your original, core values, you’re just dealing with bigger total numbers on both sides of the equation. if the net is still zero, that’s not “rich”

guess who probably is in that very situation?

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:32:58am

re: #226 Renaissance_Man

In fairness, I don’t think anyone actually expected this outcome, no matter how hopeful.

Well, I can only speak for myself, but I have been pretty much on the “it won’t pass” road for some time around here.

I admit I was sweating bullets last night.

And there are others. Makeitstop, Stanely Sea are two pretty much hanging it out there the whole time. Dangerman too. And I do believe others that haven’t posted because of much negativity.

Come on give us a little ‘nod for being positive and hopeful.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:33:21am

re: #217 ObserverArt

I think it is the realization that they allowed in the extreme right with the Tea Party people which over the Obama years may have begun to chase off the moderates.

They made the crazies their base and now they have to please them or they are gone. Mitch knows he put that base on fire last night and he and they are gonna get burned.

And I think they had a timetable in mind for all this fuckery - repeal Ocare and get the tax cuts passed by now, and give themselves time to get away from the ensuing dumpster fire before the mid-terms. That’s why they were trying so hard to repeal right away and kept reloading to try and pass repeal.

ACA repeal was the lynchpin. Stripping away health care would have given them the ‘working capital’ (as it were) to go forward with the tax breaks. Then they could have hit the ground running next year with ginned-up bullshit about another Clinton ‘scandal’ or Benghazi V or whatever to get their base pissed off at the right people again.

That time frame is now fuckola. The prime window for getting all of the boxes checked and avoid blame in an election year has all but closed, and it’s going to set a chain reaction in motion that they hoped to avoid:

No ACA repeal - no tax cuts (without potential electoral blowback)
No tax cuts - unhappy contributors
Unhappy contributors - less campaign cash
Less cash - slimmer chances of re-election

Now, this is not to say that they won’t plow ahead with tax ‘reform,’ or even try to take another swing at ACA repeal. But if their dream scenario had played out, they’d have repealed ACA and had the dough to give away billions to the 1% without the possibility of having voter dissatisfaction being jammed even further up their asses.

The only question left is whether they’re stupid/crazy/desperate enough to actually try tax cuts at this point.

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Lupin  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:34:44am

EU nationals fleeing the xenophobia in the UK:

guardian

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:35:06am

re: #241 Birth Control Works

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Sounds like he is the only one with nothing to lose.

He’s invisible now, he’s got no secrets to conceal.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:35:22am

re: #224 ObserverArt

Is today the day he is out on your longish island talking about gangs or something?

Yep. Landing at MacArthur Airport and driving over to the police academy at Suffolk Community College.

I guess we’ll all get to hear about the maps on Election Night for the 5,965th time.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:37:32am

re: #249 makeitstop

Yep. Landing at MacArthur Airport and driving over to the police academy at Suffolk Community College.

I guess we’ll all get to hear about the maps on Election Night for the 5,965th time.

He’s speaking in a traditionally Republican part of LI, right?

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:38:09am
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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:38:11am

re: #242 fern01

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Is he really THIS stupid? Says more about those who voted for him than anyone else

Yes…he really is this stupid. He has lived under a big pile of money and never had to go out into the world to see how things work, how others think etc.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:39:08am

amid convefe

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:43:13am

re: #249 makeitstop

Yep. Landing at MacArthur Airport and driving over to the police academy at Suffolk Community College.

I guess we’ll all get to hear about the maps on Election Night for the 5,965th time.

I won so bigly. All the red. Except in New York which should love me for all I’ve done for them. You know what? Electoral votes should be by county. I’d a won even more bigly then. Oh yeah, what am I here to talk about?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:43:59am

re: #246 makeitstop

The only question left is whether they’re stupid/crazy/desperate enough to actually try tax cuts at this point.

Desperate. Right now their legislative agenda is in tatters, for the very reasons you cited in your post. Repealing the ACA was the first, and most crucial, step. Having failed in that endeavor (thanks, McCain, Murkowski and Collins!) the rest of their plan is now in dire shape.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:44:23am

re: #251 Birth Control Works

Fox & Friends are very mad about Democratic senators taking selfies after the health bill went down.
— Matthew Gertz

GEORGE IS GETTING UPSET!!!!!

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:44:45am

re: #120 Barefoot Grin

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:44:49am

re: #253 Birth Control Works

amid convefe

What a fucking douche. How exactly would that have changed the outcome of last night? Huckster can go fuck himself.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:46:57am

re: #250 wheat-dogg

He’s speaking in a traditionally Republican part of LI, right?

Suffolk County. Traditionally more of a Dem stronghold than adjoining Nassau County, but Trump did actually win Suffolk. So he could have gone anywhere out here and gotten a pretty good reception - but he’s stacking the deck even more in his favor and giving the speech in front of the Police Academy.

I’ve begun describing my home county as ‘Redneck Pocket, Long Island.’

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:47:32am

And to add to #FailureFriday, North Korea just lobbed another missle.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:48:41am

re: #245 ObserverArt

Well, I can only speak for myself, but I have been pretty much on the “it won’t pass” road for some time around here.

I admit I was sweating bullets last night.

And there are others. Makeitstop, Stanely Sea are two pretty much hanging it out there the whole time. Dangerman too. And I do believe others that haven’t posted because of much negativity.

Come on give us a little ‘nod for being positive and hopeful.

i truly did not know what was going to happen - the margin was always so small
after november nothing would have surprised me
and they were pulling every parlimentary trick they could find
strongly twisting arms, bribing, threatening, overriding precedents, nuclear…
they *wanted* this so much - their proof of mandate to do anything/everything

i do respect the positive voices. i guess i still havent restored quite enough reserves to handle another devastating and disappointing blow. im not so much ambivalent as self-protectionary

no internet, no news no anything since election night. then i opened up bbc, reuters, usnews, afp and got my toes wet. then i jumped back in here maybe 2 weeks ago - just coincidentally.

still trying to find my way forward. it has to be more than just pointing out hypocrisy and irony all the time. commiserating with like minded thinkers.

registering, voting, even protesting are important and powerful. and they are not enough.

i’m looking for some substantive positive major action to be part of to ensure this never happens again.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:49:59am

re: #259 makeitstop

Suffolk County. Traditionally more of a Dem stronghold than adjoining Nassau County, but Trump did actually win Suffolk. So he could have gone anywhere out here and gotten a pretty good reception - but he’s stacking the deck even more in his favor and giving the speech in front of the Police Academy.

I’ve begun describing my home county as ‘Redneck Pocket, Long Island.’

Did Hitlery or Obama come out to see you fine folks here at the police academy? NOOO! (boooos). You folks are terrific, just terrific. Beautiful! And such a record crowd, too, but the media won’t show it! (Booooos). Some people say I should just be a dictator, what do you think (cheers). Now the media will lie about me wanting to be a dictator. (boos)

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:50:48am

re: #251 Birth Control Works

[Embedded content]Hi, Fox and Friends. Just an FYI. If you’re on the company health care plan, that’s how your insurance works too.

thats how ALL insurance works

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:51:12am

re: #258 Dr. Matt

What a fucking douche. How exactly would that have changed the outcome of last night? Huckster can go fuck himself.

A GOP state legislature wouldn’t have appointed Murkowski or McCain?

I don’t know. Huck is a shit turtle.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:51:35am

Fox News complaining about Dems celebrating?

Hell you just know the GOP would be dancing in the streets if they managed to kill the ACA.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:51:51am

The F&F fucktards were “outraged” because some Democrats were taking selfies after Shitlercare’s defeat.

STEVE DOOCY (CO-HOST): So you heard [Senate Minority Leader] Chuck Schumer [(D-NY)] say we’re not celebrating, yet you see some of the images out of Capitol Hill last night in the middle of the night. People were taking selfies, there was a lot of happy faces.

AINSLEY EARHARDT (CO-HOST): There’s Chuck Schumer who said he wasn’t going to celebrate.

Selfies are a no-no. But keggers at the White House are perfectly fine.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:52:13am

re: #245 ObserverArt

Well, I can only speak for myself, but I have been pretty much on the “it won’t pass” road for some time around here.

I admit I was sweating bullets last night.

And there are others. Makeitstop, Stanely Sea are two pretty much hanging it out there the whole time. Dangerman too. And I do believe others that haven’t posted because of much negativity.

Come on give us a little ‘nod for being positive and hopeful.

Absolutely, positivity is awesome. And very admirable. I think anything to be hopeful for is just amazing at this time. I’m a believer that a positive outlook beats negativity every time.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:53:03am

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

Fox News complaining about Dems celebrating?

Hell you just know the GOP would be dancing in the streets if they managed to kill the ACA.

They held a rally at the WH after the House GOP passed their shitty bill. Fox didn’t complain then. Hell, Orange Asshole is holding a political rally for himself right now. He did another rally on Monday night, celebrating his non-popular vote victory, which I imagine Fox liked.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:53:20am

re: #242 fern01

the stupidist thing he ever did was take this job

to allow yourself to be flayed open by everyone you cant control for all to see what is really inside

let alone expose yourself for all your past deeds and misdeeds that (you already know) may have been actual crimes

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Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:53:44am

re: #264 Sir John Barron

A GOP state legislature wouldn’t have appointed Murkowski or McCain?

I don’t know. Huck is a shit turtle.

There is immense uncertainty and unpredictability with repealing the 17th. His entire premise is obtuse.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:54:07am

re: #254 Sir John Barron

I won so bigly. All the red. Except in New York which should love me for all I’ve done for them. You know what? Electoral votes should be by county. I’d a won even more bigly then. Oh yeah, what am I here to talk about?

ps - if you cant find a job here….move

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freetoken  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:55:03am

re: #270 Dr. Matt

There is immense uncertainty and unpredictability with repealing the 17th. His entire premise is obtuse.

His premise is a gimmick to work his marks.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:55:16am

re: #267 Renaissance_Man

Absolutely, positivity is awesome. And very admirable. I think anything to be hopeful for is just amazing at this time. I’m a believer that a positive outlook beats negativity every time.

When I went to bed last night, I was pretty much expecting to wake up and find out that ACA had been repealed.

But there’s always a wild card, man. Always.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:55:30am

That missile the DPRK launched may (and I’m emphasizing may) have landed in Japanese territorial waters.

North Korea fired a projectile that appeared to be a missile shortly before midnight Japan time (3pm GMT) on Friday, Japan’s national broadcaster NHK said, citing government officials.

The apparent missile may have landed in Japan’s exclusive economic zone, NHK said.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:55:35am

re: #270 Dr. Matt

There is immense uncertainty and unpredictability with repealing the 17th. His entire premise is obtuse.

It’s another case of “the system is rigged against us” (but the electoral college system is great because it’s good for wingnuts, etc).

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majii  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:55:52am

MSNBC is reporting that Trump will give a presser at 1:40 PM today. I’m not watching him spew BS about the failure of this bill and blame everyone for its failure except himself. I just can’t. Not today. I’m celebrating.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:56:20am

re: #257 MsJ

[Embedded content]You KNOW that is what theyll do. The @POTUS doesn’t care about Americans. He’s a psychopath. He *likes* seeing people hurt!

the motivation may be even less diabolical

he simply has to win. he has to be right.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:57:23am

We theorized before here on LGF that Trump didn’t want to be President and never expected to win.

But if that were true, why involve the Russians to tip the odds to his favor?

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John Carter  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:57:28am

re: #83 Targetpractice

So 6 months in office and the greatest “accomplishment” of this administration is filling a SCOTUS vacancy that the majority party cheated to keep open. No major legislation, no major foreign policy developments, no major cultural shift, nothing whatsoever. At the same time he’s been mired in a scandal since before taking office, his approval ratings have hit historical lows, several major members of his staff have either quit or been fired, and there’s various lawsuits that are promising to make things even worse.

If he truly were CEO of a major corp with this track record, the board would be looking into ways to fire his ass.

Luckily this country is still working off the fumes on Obama’s success. Image what the work would look like if Trump won 8 years ago.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:57:30am

re: #276 majii

MSNBC is reporting that Trump will give a presser at 1:40 PM today. I’m not watching him spew BS about the failure of this bill and blame everyone for its failure except himself. I just can’t. Not today. I’m celebrating.

No Dem voted for any of our three beautiful bills! Obstruction! John McCain is weak! Those two lady senators with their lady parts are bad!

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:58:20am

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

Fox News complaining about Dems celebrating?

Hell you just know the GOP would be dancing in the streets if they managed to kill the ACA.

they probably had confetti and balloons ready

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:59:08am

re: #261 dangerman

i truly did not know what was going to happen - the margin was always so small
after november nothing would have surprised me
and they were pulling every parlimentary trick they could find
strongly twisting arms, bribing, threatening, overriding precedents, nuclear…
they *wanted* this so much - their proof of mandate to do anything/everything

i do respect the positive voices. i guess i still havent restored quite enough reserves to handle another devastating and disappointing blow. im not so much ambivalent as self-protectionary

no internet, no news no anything since election night. then i opened up bbc, reuters, usnews, afp and got my toes wet. then i jumped back in here maybe 2 weeks ago - just coincidentally.

still trying to find my way forward. it has to be more than just pointing out hypocrisy and irony all the time. commiserating with like minded thinkers.

registering, voting, even protesting are important and powerful. and they are not enough.

i’m looking for some substantive positive major action to be part of to ensure this never happens again.

I understand.

I guess I stuck with the American voter/citizens and the basics of politics. You have to go with the numbers.

They simply did not have the numbers.

20% in favor of replacement will not get it done.

Congress’ 11% approval rating will not get it done.

Trump’s 35% approval rating (Fake!) will not get it done.

And I think the thing many did not see but was glaring, was their own multiple tries to get this through. Deep down the Republicans didn’t really want to do it either, they just opened their big yaps for 8 years and put themselves in a tough spot.

If it was the big “done deal” everyone thought they would have passed it as soon as the House gave it to the Senate. Surly they wanted it done by the 4th of July. Once that didn’t happen I thought chances increased they couldn’t get it done.

Whew! That was close.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:59:10am

re: #281 dangerman

they probably had confetti and balloons ready

Yeah, today was supposed to be a much different show for them.

So sadz.

Tiny violins playing.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2017 • 8:59:18am

re: #259 makeitstop

Suffolk County. Traditionally more of a Dem stronghold than adjoining Nassau County, but Trump did actually win Suffolk. So he could have gone anywhere out here and gotten a pretty good reception - but he’s stacking the deck even more in his favor and giving the speech in front of the Police Academy.

I’ve begun describing my home county as ‘Redneck Pocket, Long Island.’

My familiarity with LI politics is 35 years out of date. My neighborhood was a GOP pocket within a Democratic township, because of income levels (which my family did not share in).

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No Depression  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:01:08am

re: #266 Dr. Matt

The F&F fucktards were “outraged” because some Democrats were taking selfies after Shitlercare’s defeat.

Selfies are a no-no. But keggers at the White House are perfectly fine.

I think I’ve gotten like 3 times the daily recommended level of sodium just from drinking all these wingnut tears alone.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:01:24am

re: #283 Sir John Barron

Yeah, today was supposed to be a much different show for them.

So sadz.

Tiny violins playing.

For the Fox and Friends gang - and the GOP.

This one’s for you!

Playing a Sad Tune on Tiny Violin

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:02:06am

re: #273 makeitstop

When I went to bed last night, I was pretty much expecting to wake up and find out that ACA had been repealed.

But there’s always a wild card, man. Always.

Jokers Wild!

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steve_davis  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:02:43am

re: #111 A wild WITHAK appeared!

These fuckers don’t know when to quit.

[Embedded content]

Which they can’t do because the magical reconciliation bean can’t be used for it, and Republicans are scared to death to do away with the procedural filibuster. There’s always the possibility that you may really pay for that in the near future, if you do it, just as Republicans are going to pay dearly for doing away with the 60-vote threshold on supreme court nominees, as it now means Democratic presidents with senate majorities will no longer have to make even a pretense of finding a moderate pick. Just go hard left if you want. Find somebody who thinks the decision to allow corporations personhood was a bad one and just start from there.

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I cannot.  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:03:18am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:05:59am

Since this is Trump’s day to bash Brown immigrants, here’s a bunch he can start on:

Samoan soldiers singing

Note lack of bone spurs.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:07:01am

re: #282 ObserverArt

the optimist in me agrees with everything you said, and hoped right along, quietly

“Whew! That was close.” too close given their trickery…kept me singing “won’t get fooled again”

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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:07:14am

While NK launches missiles, our Secretary of State has taken a few days off, and the rest of America’s foreign affairs ministry is in a shambles. Our president has managed to irk the Chinese, the Japanese, the South Koreans, and the North Koreans, and besides the occasional tweet, has ignored the entire NK situation, preferring to focus on himself and Trumpcare.

I assume the military and the intelligence communities are on the ball, because NK is obviously trying to provoke a response.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:07:26am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

We theorized before here on LGF that Trump didn’t want to be President and never expected to win.

But if that were true, why involve the Russians to tip the odds to his favor?

money laundering —

probably used the election somehow to benefit the relationship —winning had nothing to do with it.

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:07:29am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

We theorized before here on LGF that Trump didn’t want to be President and never expected to win.

But if that were true, why involve the Russians to tip the odds to his favor?

I still wonder if Vlad put Donny up to do this whole thing to help settle some past debts. Who knows, they may not have expected to win, but they sure wanted to muck up the process and ding Clinton. Winning was a side benefit…for Putin. Donny probably thought he was clear and then he won. Oops.

Now Putin is in control of Donny and that is why they are going way out of their way to hide it all. If they had lost there probably would have been no investigating.

Can you hear that cackle? No, it is not Hillary. It’s Putin. He’s enjoying his side benefits.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:09:58am

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

Fox News complaining about Dems celebrating?

Hell you just know the GOP would be dancing in the streets if they managed to kill the ACA.

Oh GOP, fuck off.

dailydot.com

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:10:02am

re: #292 wheat-dogg

I assume the military and the intelligence communities are on the ball, because NK is obviously trying to provoke a response.

“quick…where’s my phone”

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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:10:12am

re: #290 Decatur Deb

Since this is Trump’s day to bash Brown immigrants, here’s a bunch he can start on:

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Video

Note lack of bone spurs.

I see some similarities with the Maori hakka here.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:11:12am

re: #297 wheat-dogg

I see some similarities with the Maori hakka here.

The leader definitely gives it a bump in the second song.

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Birth Control Works  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:11:29am

bbl

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:12:03am
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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:14:06am

re: #293 Birth Control Works

money laundering —

probably used the election somehow to benefit the relationship —winning had nothing to do with it.

notwithstanding
re: #269 dangerman

he may have just thought he could sit back, Pence, the R’s, etc would run things and he’d be the figurehead. all the while milking every dollar out of salaries, fees, travel, nepotism, and ante-4 years of fundraising

that they all got caught in an investigation virtually before taking office… well

and that they’re actually, as a group, not all that competent… well, well

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Lidane  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:14:19am

Heh.

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nines09  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:15:06am

The two GOP women, Senators Murkowski and Collins, the real heros in this defeat of a dangerous and vile bill should be told how much it meant to you and yours. I tweeted to both and thanked them. McCain also deserves praise, and I’ll be frank, I thought he was not going to do that. Kudos to him. Thank him too. Guess how Graham voted?
You know it’s not over. They will do everything in their power to kill the ACA by other means. They are already hard at work.
But take the time to thank these three. Repeatedly. They took and are taking a lot of abuse for standing up and caring.

@lisamurkowski

@SenatorCollins

@SenJohnMcCain

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:15:16am

re: #297 wheat-dogg

I see some similarities with the Maori hakka here.

I was thinking that. I worked in auto racing with some New Zealanders and learned some about the Maori. My one boss loved their dance.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:23:45am

I love hakas too.

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majii  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:24:48am

re: #122 Dave In Austin
I’m so glad the Mitch & Co. failed to repeal Obamacare. I view it as a sort of payback for the way they treated PBO. They deserve this international shaming. In fact, they earned it. I’ve believed for some time now that all of their railing against Obamacare was primarily because they thought privately to themselves, “It’s not fair!!! How dare this blah guy have the audacity to successfully reform our healthcare system when we know blah people are all stupid, lazy, unintelligent SOBs.” They can tell any lie they want to tell, but based on my life story and experiences in dealing with persons like them, I know how many of them think, and I know the barely concealed racism they hold in their minds and hearts. These SOBs think Trump is the superior president, and it’s not because they think he’s smarter than PBO. I know it. They know it. It’s what compelled so many self-described “patriotic Americans” to vote for, and elect, the failure that now resides in the WH. Trump has always been what my parents called, “A pig in a poke,” meaning he’s all mouth without substance. He’s a fraud, a con man, a liar, a hypocrite, a poseur, an empty suit, q whiner, a swindler, etc. He’s all of man’s worst character attributes encased in one individual. He’s the personification of The Ugly American.

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gocart mozart  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:25:25am

re: #1 JordanRules

You are blocked from following @AlGiordano and viewing @AlGiordano’s Tweets. Learn more

Why has Al Giordano blocked me? I don’t even remember disagreeing with him about anything.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:27:03am
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stpaulbear  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:28:24am

I like this WaPo story if only for the headline. This needed to be said.

Enough about McCain. It was Collins, Murkowski and red-state Democrats who killed Trumpcare

I called my senators this morning to thank them for being a part of this defeat.

I hope that Senator Capito is feeling like shit this morning.

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freetoken  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:28:46am

re: #308 Stanley Sea

McCain does not seem to acknowledge that with Trump at his helm everything becomes a game, a game of ratings.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:29:09am

re: #302 Lidane

I’m old enough to remember when the House approved what they described as the severely flawed AHCA under assurances that the Senate would fix it all under their proceedings.

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Jay C  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:29:30am

re: #258 Dr. Matt

What a fucking douche. How exactly would that have changed the outcome of last night? Huckster can go fuck himself.

Even leaving aside the fact that Mike Huckabee is an imbecilic hack, tweeting out a promotion of Seventeentherism is pretty lame, even for him.
Attacking A17 is just another part of today’s Republican Party’s assault on democracy: or at least that part of democracy that isn’t “legitimate” - i.e. firmly Republican. Supposedly the “rationale” is that if choosing Senators was up to State Legislatures (like it was pre-1913), the GOP “lock” on statehouses in Red states would give them a marginal advantage in naming Senators; without having to go through the messy (and non-guaranteed) method of having -shudder - the people vote on them. Maybe only a few, but it is supposed to at least marginally advantage the over-representation of Republicans in Congress; so therefore a swell idea.
Even more pernicious (and, terrifyingly, more likely to be enacted) is their pet project to enact “proportional” allocation of Electoral Votes - vs. the winner-take-all system most states use. Since Republicans have diligently gerrymandered as many Congressional Districts as they can to maximize that overrepresentation, the idea is that “red” districts will reliably return EVs for GOPers; ensuring their election, regardless of vote totals anywhere else.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:31:00am

re: #301 dangerman

notwithstanding

he may have just thought he could sit back, Pence, the R’s, etc would run things and he’d be the figurehead. all the while milking every dollar out of salaries, fees, travel, nepotism, and ante-4 years of fundraising

that they all got caught in an investigation virtually before taking office… well

and that they’re actually, as a group, not all that competent… well, well

They also thought that Sarah Palin would just stand up, keep quiet and make the McCain ticket look better and more appealing…

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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:32:20am

re: #313 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They also thought that Sarah Palin would just stand up, keep quiet and make the McCain ticket look better and more appealing…

As they thought Donald Trump could be controlled and contained to further their agenda. That strategy backfired bigly.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:32:38am
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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:33:34am

re: #315 FormerDirtDart

Like the last day of school before summer vacation.

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Weaselone  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:35:01am

re: #315 FormerDirtDart

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Wonder how long that will last once they get home…

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nines09  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:36:14am

To understand just what a vile lowlife POS Mike Huckabee truly is you only need to read this. Equating a human with property, and sick human as useless property. What a man.

I Am Not A Burned Down House

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Myron Falwell  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:36:37am

“It’s like being freed from the dungeon in “Silence of the Lambs,” only to be told you’ve got to stick around for one more application of lotion.”

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Kragar  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:37:06am
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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:39:15am

re: #320 Kragar

Really. Since when did MS-13 become a major policy issue for the USA? There are much bigger fish to fry.

Oh, right. They be immigrant brown people.

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Kragar  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:39:20am
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nines09  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:39:33am

re: #319 Myron Falwell

Is it my imagination or is more greasy than before? He’s looks like he’s carrying his own
Slip ‘N Slide around….On his face.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:43:49am

re: #322 Kragar

Notice Trump, who is head of the executive branch of the federal government, is announcing federal support of local police, who seem overwhelmingly in favor of him already. Not to go overly godwin here, but it sounds like he is trying to enlist local police into some kind of Trump Guard — local shock troops for his crazed agenda.

Makes me nervous.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:44:47am

re: #321 wheat-dogg

Really. Since when did MS-13 become a major policy issue for the USA? There are much bigger fish to fry.

Oh, right. They be immigrant brown people.

They cut women into little pieces to watch them suffer, remember?

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:46:25am

Was having a “debate” with a Trumper on Twitter about high deductibles. He claimed he was paying $1400 per month for epilepsy meds. I pointed out that meant he would have reached the out-of-pocket maximum months ago.

Man, people gots to learn to lie better.

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Kragar  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:46:59am

re: #321 wheat-dogg

Really. Since when did MS-13 become a major policy issue for the USA? There are much bigger fish to fry.

Oh, right. They be immigrant brown people.

Since telling scared white people about how dangerous brown people are became the only way Trump could get cheers

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BeachDem  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:47:34am

re: #303 nines09

The two GOP women, Senators Murkowski and Collins, the real heros in this defeat of a dangerous and vile bill should be told how much it meant to you and yours. I tweeted to both and thanked them. McCain also deserves praise, and I’ll be frank, I thought he was not going to do that. Kudos to him. Thank him too. Guess how Graham voted?
You know it’s not over. They will do everything in their power to kill the ACA by other means. They are already hard at work.
But take the time to thank these three. Repeatedly. They took and are taking a lot of abuse for standing up and caring.

@lisamurkowski

@SenatorCollins

@SenJohnMcCain

I sent Graham an 11th hour email last night at 11 pm, exhorting him to do what he knew was the right thing and vote no. Got the auto-reply—thanks for writing, will get back to you soon. Hah—like he has ever responded with anything but a boilerplate blah blah blah. And that was back when there was any response at all—those stopped about 3 years ago.

What kills me about Lindsey is that the right wingers down here hate him anyway, but he wins without their support (all the talk in his last primary was how they were going to finally be rid of him—he didn’t even face a runoff; won big in the primary.) So he could actually stand up for something good, but for some reason he only wants to run his mouth, then votes straight party line.

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stpaulbear  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:49:00am

re: #230 No Depression

I can’t stop watching this clip of John McCain’s vote set to Jim Ross wrestling commentary:

deadspin.com

Man, that video does just keep getting better and better every time you watch it. I like how Schumer makes sure to be looking in a different direction when McConnell starts walking away in shock..

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Kragar  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:50:29am
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Belafon  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:50:45am

re: #276 majii

MSNBC is reporting that Trump will give a presser at 1:40 PM today. I’m not watching him spew BS about the failure of this bill and blame everyone for its failure except himself. I just can’t. Not today. I’m celebrating.

Democrats should get some beer and hold a celebration at the same time.

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Jay C  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:54:38am

re: #321 wheat-dogg

Really. Since when did MS-13 become a major policy issue for the USA? There are much bigger fish to fry.

Oh, right. They be immigrant brown people.

Trump has always been harping on “violent immigrant gangs” since he started his campaign (remember the “Angel Moms” or whatever they were called being promoted front-and-center at the RNC?) - it’s a sure-fire applause-getter at most of his Parteitag “campaign” rallies: after all, who is going to stand up for homicidal drug-dealing gangbangers? And, of course, it’s not Trump’s fault if his audience extends the animus to ALL immigrants, or ALL Hispanics…

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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:56:22am

re: #332 Jay C

Trump has always been harping on “violent immigrant gangs” since he started his campaign (remember the “Angel Moms” or whatever they were called being promoted front-and-center at the RNC?) - it’s a sure-fire applause-getter at most of his Parteitag “campaign” rallies: after all, who is going to stand up for homicidal drug-dealing gangbangers? And, of course, it’s not Trump’s fault if his audience extends the animus to ALL immigrants, or ALL Hispanics…

Amerika First

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:57:49am

re: #333 wheat-dogg

Amerika First

He really cares about Native Americans.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 9:59:04am

re: #333 wheat-dogg

Amerika First

Amerika Erwache.

FTFY.

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austin_blue  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:00:09am

re: #245 ObserverArt

Well, I can only speak for myself, but I have been pretty much on the “it won’t pass” road for some time around here.

I admit I was sweating bullets last night.

And there are others. Makeitstop, Stanely Sea are two pretty much hanging it out there the whole time. Dangerman too. And I do believe others that haven’t posted because of much negativity.

Come on give us a little ‘nod for being positive and hopeful.

I was certainly hopeful that the Real Maverick would show up, and was pleasantly surprised. I was counting on Capito, actually. Her State of West-by-god Virginia had the most to lose. The fact that she caved to McConnel speaks volumes on the woman’s character

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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:01:37am

re: #335 Dr Lizardo

Amerika Erwache.

FTFY.

Danke sehr

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gocart mozart  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:01:50am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:03:23am

re: #336 austin_blue

I was certainly hopeful that the Real Maverick would show up, and was pleasantly surprised. I was counting on Capito, actually. Her State of West-by-god Virginia had the most to lose. The fact that she caved to McConnel speaks volumes on the woman’s character

Yeah, disappointed in Capito and Heller, too.

Of course, McTurtle and Ann Rand Paul hail from a state that has benefited a lot from Medicaid, too. But what do they care. The way those two vote you’d think Kentucky was about the riched state in the union (of course the voters there went ahead and elected a tea bag party dodohead who hates government as governor).

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:03:37am

And let’s remember how this all started:

Bipartisanship is something he feels he had to warn us about.
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:03:53am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:04:40am

re: #339 Sir John Barron

Yeah, disappointed in Capito and Heller, too.

Of course, McTurtle and Ann Rand Paul hail from a state that has benefited a lot from Medicaid, too. But what do they care. The way those two vote you’d think Kentucky was about the riched state in the union (of course the voters there went ahead and elected a tea bag party dodohead who hates government as governor).

Portman, too. Had backing from his Governor. But the state went kind of big for Dump (and Portman was just re-elected giving him some freedom). And Portman is not all that moderate anyway.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:04:53am

re: #336 austin_blue

I was certainly hopeful that the Real Maverick would show up, and was pleasantly surprised. I was counting on Capito, actually. Her State of West-by-god Virginia had the most to lose. The fact that she caved to McConnel speaks volumes on the woman’s character

Her state went to Trump by a huge margin.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:05:06am

re: #326 Ace-o-aces

Was having a “debate” with a Trumper on Twitter about high deductibles. He claimed he was paying $1400 per month for epilepsy meds. I pointed out that meant he would have reached the out-of-pocket maximum months ago.

[Embedded content]

Man, people gots to learn to lie better.

And how big is this guy’s deductible? Bigger than $8,400? Come on now.

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stpaulbear  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:05:28am

Hah.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:07:03am

re: #326 Ace-o-aces

Was having a “debate” with a Trumper on Twitter about high deductibles. He claimed he was paying $1400 per month for epilepsy meds. I pointed out that meant he would have reached the out-of-pocket maximum months ago.

And the lack of Obamacare would help this person how?

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nines09  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:09:06am

re: #326 Ace-o-aces

I got banned on Phillydotcom for calling out crap just like that. Didn’t add up, he called me a name, I called him “Sparky” and POOF. I’m banned. He might have even been a moderator for all I know.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:09:59am

re: #308 Stanley Sea

OK but they can’t do the first thing.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:11:29am

re: #320 Kragar

Departing for Long Island now. An area under siege from #MS13 gang members. We will not rest until #MS13 is eradicated. #LESM — Donald J. Trump

UNDER SIEGE!!!!!

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wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:11:36am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:12:42am

re: #343 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Her state went to Trump by a huge margin.

Fortunately for many low income WV’s, 3 GOPers and all 48 Dems (including their own Manchin), saved them from themselves.

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nines09  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:12:54am

re: #336 austin_blue

To be fair, they did promise her that they could blow up mountains to get coal and foul the streams and air and poison drinking water and kill fish and make life a living hell as they roll back the useless OSHA and DER and EPA fascism and allow them to die as they always have…

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:12:58am

re: #338 gocart mozart

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:14:54am

re: #321 wheat-dogg

Really. Since when did MS-13 become a major policy issue for the USA? There are much bigger fish to fry.

Oh, right. They be immigrant brown people.

They have real scary tattoos.

White criminal gangs don’t have those scary tattoos. Like the Trumps.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:16:00am

re: #354 ObserverArt

They have real scary tattoos.

White criminal gangs don’t have those scary tattoos. Like the Trumps.

I bet Ivanka has one.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:16:52am

re: #167 Birth Control Works

You know, I really have to wonder who is pulling the strings here. McConnell and the whole GOP are behaving as if someone/thing very powerful has the goods on them. It’s beyond politics, even beyond obsession.

It’s as if someone has a metaphorical gun to their heads.

I kinda thought this too, but then I remember their behavior in 2008-today and realize at the very least, they are just assholes.

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BeachDem  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:17:20am

re: #342 Sir John Barron

Portman, too. Had backing from his Governor. But the state went kind of big for Dump (and Portman was just re-elected giving him some freedom). And Portman is not all that moderate anyway.

We should also give some credit to these Dems who represent states that went big for Trump.

Five red-state Democrats: Sens. Joe Manchin III (W. Va.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Jon Tester (Mont.), Claire McCaskill (Mo.) and Joe Donnelly (Ind.).

washingtonpost.com

(with interesting graphic showing the 2016 vote by home states)

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:17:37am

re: #323 nines09

Is it my imagination or is more greasy than before? He’s looks like he’s carrying his own
Slip ‘N Slide around….On his face.

I’ve notice Teddy has put on some more pounds since his run for President.

So there is more grease yes.

He’s letting himself go. Sad.

And I sure hope he gets clobbered in his next election.

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nines09  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:19:23am

re: #358 ObserverArt

We hope he lets himself go away…

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:21:54am

re: #328 BeachDem

I sent Graham an 11th hour email last night at 11 pm, exhorting him to do what he knew was the right thing and vote no. Got the auto-reply—thanks for writing, will get back to you soon. Hah—like he has ever responded with anything but a boilerplate blah blah blah. And that was back when there was any response at all—those stopped about 3 years ago.

What kills me about Lindsey is that the right wingers down here hate him anyway, but he wins without their support (all the talk in his last primary was how they were going to finally be rid of him—he didn’t even face a runoff; won big in the primary.) So he could actually stand up for something good, but for some reason he only wants to run his mouth, then votes straight party line.

Awww. He just wants to be one of the guys. It is hard for him.

Which reminds me, I need to contact Robby Portman sometime over the next day or two to tell him to thank Collins, McCain and Murkowski for me the next time he sees them.

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No Depression  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:23:29am

Heh, John McCain was practically waving his future vote in front of the Republicans’ faces when he gave his speech:

We’ve tried to do this by coming up with a proposal behind closed doors in consultation with the administration, then springing it on skeptical members, trying to convince them it’s better than nothing, asking us to swallow our doubts and force it past a unified opposition. I don’t think that is going to work in the end. And it probably shouldn’t.

He was planning on voting down the final bill the whole damn time.

362
Barefoot Grin  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:24:53am

re: #349 Sir John Barron

UNDER SIEGE!!!!!

I hope they air lift in supplies!

363
ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:25:49am

re: #331 Belafon

Democrats should get some beer and hold a celebration at the same time.

Seeing your post reminds me now that I should have counted you into my Comment #245 as another LGF member that remained positive and thought this bill would not pass.

Sorry about that. I am sure there are others I am forgetting.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:26:38am

re: #362 Barefoot Grin

I hope they air lift in supplies!

Exclusive video from the Long Island Airlift:

Berlin Airlift

365
wrenchwench  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:30:22am

re: #363 ObserverArt

Seeing your post reminds me now that I should have counted you into my Comment #245 as another LGF member that remained positive and thought this bill would not pass.

Sorry about that. I am sure there are others I am forgetting.

I’m so bad with names now, I don’t dare list any lizards on any basis, but your 245 was good, especially with 363 in addition. I’d put Belafon at the top of the list. No offense to #2, #3, and so on. Nor to you, who make the list somewhere.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:31:06am

re: #349 Sir John Barron

UNDER SIEGE!!!!!

Good news: no Steven Segal.
Better news: no Gary Busey.

367
Hecuba's daughter  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:32:20am

re: #326 Ace-o-aces

Was having a “debate” with a Trumper on Twitter about high deductibles. He claimed he was paying $1400 per month for epilepsy meds. I pointed out that meant he would have reached the out-of-pocket maximum months ago.

[Embedded content]

Man, people gots to learn to lie better.

Any possibility that his problem was that his particular medication was not covered but a generic was?

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austin_blue  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:34:28am

re: #367 Hecuba’s daughter

Any possibility that his problem was that his particular medication was not covered but a generic was?

He shut up in a hurry when he found out Ace-of-aces was an MD, didn’t he?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:36:34am

re: #368 austin_blue

He shut up in a hurry when he found out Ace-of-aces was an MD, didn’t he?

The entire argument is %$%$%$%. Obamacare is far from perfect, but it is better than what there was before and what the Republicans were proposing.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:38:23am

Takei for the win (again).

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Myron Falwell  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:39:40am

re: #361 No Depression

Heh, John McCain was practically waving his future vote in front of the Republicans’ faces when he gave his speech:

He was planning on voting down the final bill the whole damn time.

Couple that with his “watch the show” quip before the vote.

372
nines09  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:39:42am

Trump on Long Island today rescuing the inhabitants…

Death Wish 3 - Machine Gun Scene

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:40:13am

pakistan PM removed

fill in the blanks

the verdict caps **more than a year** of high political drama, breathless court proceedings and a piercing investigation into the finances of the ______ family.

The charges against Mr. ______ and three of his children — two sons and a daughter — stemmed from disclosures last year…which revealed that the children owned expensive residential property in London through offshore companies.

In their unanimous verdict on Friday, the justices declared that Mr. _______ was not “honest” and that he was therefore “disqualified to be a member of the [government].” They also ordered the opening of criminal investigations focusing on the _____ family.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:40:57am

re: #321 wheat-dogg

Really. Since when did MS-13 become a major policy issue for the USA? There are much bigger fish to fry.

Oh, right. They be immigrant brown people.

MS-13 has been extremely active out here, actually. A rash of killings of high school kids (the last bunch here, 10 altogether) has made it a natural for showboating Attorneys General and aspiring Fascists alike.

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makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:42:23am

Update: SCPD is requesting reinforcements to deal with protestors at the airport…

LI MACARTHUR AIRPORT, NY (SUFFOLK) *
LARGE CROWD* LAKELAND AVE / SCHAFER DR.
SCPD AIRPORT OFFICERS REQUEST APPROX 9 MORE UNITS FOR CROWD CONTROL. PROTESTERS FOR PRESIDENT TRUMPS ARRIVAL

He’s late, as usual. Maybe I’ll go get some pics of AF 1’s approach…

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ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:42:39am

re: #342 Sir John Barron

Portman, too. Had backing from his Governor. But the state went kind of big for Dump (and Portman was just re-elected giving him some freedom). And Portman is not all that moderate anyway.

Portman is going to get his ass kicked next time.

I’ve never seen an Ohio senator have so many protests held against him ever. He was bombarded by emails, calls and letters. If you drove past the Federal building downtown, there was always a group of protesters out front. He had the big physical removal of protesters where the one woman was dumped out of her wheelchair and that left a bad PR mark upside his head. Even the Columbus Police took a black eye from that.

The Democrats just need a decent youngish candidate that is well spoken and they can use this healthcare mess against him. He is going to have a real tough time putting any positive spin on this.

377
piratedan  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:43:24am

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

yeah… they took selfies, it’s not as if they all got on a bus and headed over to the White House for drinks and a party….

378
Stanley Sea  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:44:23am
379
jaunte  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:44:48am
380
Hecuba's daughter  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:48:58am

I am probably the exception here but it seems better not to gloat about victory — that is more likely to re: #377 piratedan

yeah… they took selfies, it’s not as if they all got on a bus and headed over to the White House for drinks and a party….

I may be the exception here but it seems that being low key and magnanimous in victory is more effective, especially as long as we are in the minority. Gloating may provide them additional incentive to sabotage the ACA. The Democrats should be reaching out to Republicans for discussions on fixes to the program so that it remains healthy. It would also be great if there were some way to persuade states that didn’t participate in the Medicaid expansion that now was the time to change their position.

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KGxvi  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:49:23am

re: #376 ObserverArt

Portman is going to get his ass kicked next time.

I’ve never seen an Ohio senator have so many protests held against him ever. He was bombarded by emails, calls and letters. If you drove past the Federal building downtown, there was always a group of protesters out front. He had the big physical removal of protesters where the one woman was dumped out of her wheelchair and that left a bad PR mark upside his head. Even the Columbus Police took a black eye from that.

The Democrats just need a decent youngish candidate that is well spoken and they can use this healthcare mess against him. He is going to have a real tough time putting any positive spin on this.

Portman was just elected, so he’s not up again until 2022. Lot of time between now and then for tempers to cool and minds to change (which was, of course, the basic idea of the Senate from the beginning).

I was listening to MSNBC while driving a couple days ago and someone there reported that nobody in the Senate (including pages) is afraid of Trump. I think the question now, for the GOP, is if they want to continue down the same path they’ve been on with McConnell in leadership, or if they are interested in changing course. It’s also worth noting that McConnell is 75 and up for reelection in 2020, makes me wonder if he’s in his last hurrah as well.

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BeachDem  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:52:33am

re: #379 jaunte

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littlegreenfootballs.com

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Myron Falwell  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:53:20am

Ya know, at some point Putin will start to aim higher… much higher.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:53:22am
385
jaunte  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:54:23am
386
KGxvi  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:54:37am

re: #379 jaunte

The GOP are the proverbial generals fighting the last war. Turned on MSNBC a bit this morning and heard Hugh Hewitt being hackish* by claiming that this failure wasn’t Trump or McConnell’s responsibility but that blame lies with Murkowski, McCain, and Collins. And that Democrats own health care now. I’m really not sure they are fully aware of the current state of play and how it’s likely going to shape up for 2018 and 2020.

*I’ve said before, I knew Hewitt in passing while at Chapman law. He was a decent guy on a personal level, but many of my friends who took his Con Law class said that he basically used it for show prep for his then afternoon radio show.

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Jay C  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:57:14am

re: #384 FormerDirtDart

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And IIJM, or did he have a look on his ugly mug - as he left the room - like: “OK, I shook their fucking hands, now gettem out of here….

388
ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 10:58:29am

re: #381 KGxvi

Portman was just elected, so he’s not up again until 2022. Lot of time between now and then for tempers to cool and minds to change (which was, of course, the basic idea of the Senate from the beginning).

I was listening to MSNBC while driving a couple days ago and someone there reported that nobody in the Senate (including pages) is afraid of Trump. I think the question now, for the GOP, is if they want to continue down the same path they’ve been on with McConnell in leadership, or if they are interested in changing course. It’s also worth noting that McConnell is 75 and up for reelection in 2020, makes me wonder if he’s in his last hurrah as well.

Sadly I know he was just elected. One reason was the Ohio Democratic Party candidate Ted Strickland.

I like Ted, but he got hit hard by the Bush recession as Governor and Kasich pounced on him and made him look bad. Running for the Senate seat after all that just didn’t look too good. He was just too wounded.

389
jaunte  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:01:07am

Mannn these people are dumb.

390
sagehen  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:03:33am

re: #225 Birth Control Works

Affluent doesn’t mean rich anymore —It means you can pay your bills (mostly); go on vacation, buy a new pair of boots when the old ones wear out.

We really don’t have rich people in this country. We have the wealth to the point of amorality and everyone else.

When my parents were a young couple with small children in 1960, looking to buy a permanent home (the house I grew up in)… the loan officer at the bank told them that one year’s income is how much mortgage they’d qualify for. Most people today spend 3x that much.

Financial advisers at the time also told them that responsible people put 10% of their earnings into savings — for emergencies, for the kids’ college, for their own retirement. Very few people do that anymore either; they rely on their home value appreciating fast enough that 2nd and 3rd mortgages will cover future needs.

There’s no cushion anymore. Almost everybody is balanced on a razor’s edge, and it takes very little to push them over.

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:03:45am

re: #384 FormerDirtDart

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pig

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nines09  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:03:59am

re: #389 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Mannn these people are dumb.

Think of the audience.

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jaunte  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:05:59am

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dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:06:04am

re: #386 KGxvi

…heard Hugh Hewitt being hackish* by claiming that this failure wasn’t Trump or McConnell’s responsibility but that blame lies with Murkowski, McCain, and Collins…

twaddle

responsibility? who’s the Leader?

395
gocart mozart  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:07:25am
396
dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:09:33am

re: #389 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Mannn these people are dumb.

this should be the go to quote and clip from now on

with //// yes, they finally got it - this is exactly what any insurance is and why you buy it before you need it

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:09:38am
398
jaunte  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:12:12am
399
makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:13:45am

No AF 1 on my approach path. Thanks, Trump.

In other news…

400
dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:14:15am

re: #395 gocart mozart

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THAT is how you box them in and stay on point

401
piratedan  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:15:14am

re: #400 dangerman

and did he ever answer her question?

fucking bullshit artist….

402
ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:15:51am

Mnuchin may not have the classic punchable face, but his attitude and thinking he is so clever puts him on the list.

The Asshole Administration.

Only Assholes allowed to work with The Chief Asshole President.

403
Stanley Sea  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:18:04am
404
Charles Johnson  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:18:39am

The Rage Furby has published the letter he got from the Senate Committee on Intelligence, and now he’s actually starting a Wesearchr “bounty” for himself, to scam some more money from gullible right wingers so he can hire a lawyer. He says he’s “in talks” with Alan Dershowitz.

It’s not a subpoena, and he isn’t being asked to “testify” as he’s claiming. It’s a request for a closed door interview, not testimony. They do, however, include demands that he preserve all documents related to attempts to contact Russia, including search results and more. So Chuck just might find himself in real hot water this time.

He’s blustering like a goon about it, of course. The committee is going to be “trapped in there” with him, and he’s going to turn it into a circus and demand that it be public. LOL. And Gateway Pundit’s idiot boy reporter Lucian Wintrich is hyping him like crazy.

405
ObserverArt  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:18:55am

re: #398 jaunte

[Embedded content]

I doubt he reads them, but damn I’d love to see Donny’s expression and reaction reading some of Keith Olbermann’s tweet responses to him.

406
Dr. Matt  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:19:06am
407
Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:22:12am

re: #379 jaunte

Kind of forgotten right now: Dem senators in states Trump won by landslides stayed w Schumer on the ACA, w no political backlash.

— Dave Weigel

Kind of a BFD.

408
Sir John Barron  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:23:56am

re: #379 jaunte

Kind of forgotten right now: Dem senators in states Trump won by landslides stayed w Schumer on the ACA, w no political backlash.

— Dave Weigel

This phrase, while accurate, is still difficult to comprehend. The only landslides The Donald should have won are elections for least successful casino owner ever.

409
FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:24:43am

re: #399 makeitstop

No AF 1 on my approach path. Thanks, Trump.

In other news…

🔥🔥🔥🔥BOMBSHELL!!! FBI agents think Putin’s former media czar was murdered in a hotel room DOJ was paying for.😮

Murder you say?
Trey Gowdy should immediately launch an inquiry to determine any possible Clinton involvement
//

410
makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:25:34am

re: #409 FormerDirtDart

Murder you say?
Trey Gowdy should immediately launch an inquiry to determine any possible Clinton involvement
//

I’m so sure.
/////

411
FormerDirtDart  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:28:32am
412
dangerman  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:28:54am

re: #380 Hecuba’s daughter

I am probably the exception here but it seems better not to gloat about victory — that is more likely to

I may be the exception here but it seems that being low key and magnanimous in victory is more effective, especially as long as we are in the minority. Gloating may provide them additional incentive to sabotage the ACA. The Democrats should be reaching out to Republicans for discussions on fixes to the program so that it remains healthy. It would also be great if there were some way to persuade states that didn’t participate in the Medicaid expansion that now was the time to change their position.

not to put to fine a point on it… ok lets
with the pix, they were celebrating, not gloating - marking the moment
it *was* a big thing to celebrate - for everybody affected
even as mccain voted, schumer waved them all to stop clapping and be quiet
nobody got in anyone’s face real or metaphorical, or rubbed anyones (real or metaphorical) nose in it
(yet)

413
makeitstop  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:40:16am

re: #411 FormerDirtDart

Trump is talking about “blood stained killing fields”… on Long Island.

Wotta drama queen.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:51:04am

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BeachDem  Jul 28, 2017 • 11:52:58am

re: #404 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby has published the letter he got from the Senate Committee on Intelligence, and now he’s actually starting a Wesearchr “bounty” for himself, to scam some more money from gullible right wingers so he can hire a lawyer. He says he’s “in talks” with Alan Dershowitz.

It’s not a subpoena, and he isn’t being asked to “testify” as he’s claiming. It’s a request for a closed door interview, not testimony. They do, however, include demands that he preserve all documents related to attempts to contact Russia, including search results and more. So Chuck just might find himself in real hot water this time.

He’s blustering like a goon about it, of course. The committee is going to be “trapped in there” with him, and he’s going to turn it into a circus and demand that it be public. LOL. And Gateway Pundit’s idiot boy reporter Lucian Wintrich is hyping him like crazy.

Heh

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